The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1541 - Bridget Phetasy

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00:00:12.000 Oh, hello, Bridget.

00:00:13.000 Hello.

00:00:14.000 We're going to save the world.

00:00:15.000 Yeah, that's what I heard.

00:00:16.000 Right now.

00:00:17.000 I'm sorry for being late for the most California reason ever.

00:00:20.000 I really, I thought I was meditating for 20 minutes and I was 45 minutes in.

00:00:23.000 I was like, what happened?

00:00:24.000 Last time we talked, you hadn't even started meditating yet.

00:00:27.000 So tell me about this journey.

00:00:28.000 Well, I would do it occasionally.

00:00:30.000 Yeah, but you weren't really into it.

00:00:31.000 Most of the time I was getting in the tank, which is kind of like meditating.

00:00:34.000 Uh-huh.

00:00:35.000 But, you know, the tank is its own thing.

00:00:38.000 But yeah, I've been doing...

00:00:39.000 I had this guy James Nestor on.

00:00:41.000 He's the author of Breathe.

00:00:44.000 Breath?

00:00:44.000 Breathe.

00:00:45.000 Breath.

00:00:46.000 Breath.

00:00:47.000 Breath.

00:00:47.000 The book is Breath.

00:00:48.000 I always forget which one has the E at the end.

00:00:52.000 But I really got into breathing exercises afterwards.

00:00:56.000 And so, I mean, I'm calling it meditating, but I'm really doing both.

00:00:59.000 I'm meditating and while I'm doing these breathing exercises, I'm just concentrating on breath.

00:01:05.000 Trippy. 0.99

00:01:06.000 It is the best fucking stress reliever. 0.99

00:01:08.000 It just, ooh, it all goes away. 0.99

00:01:10.000 It's amazing.

00:01:10.000 I've taught yoga and I always said if you had to choose all the different parts of that practice, if I had to tell somebody just to do one, it would be the breathing exercises are the best.

00:01:22.000 There's something about it, too, that you don't realize how shallow your breath is most of the day until you sit down.

00:01:30.000 I do six in, six out.

00:01:32.000 So six seconds in, big...

00:01:34.000 And then...

00:01:37.000 And I did it for 45 minutes today.

00:01:39.000 Just in and out.

00:01:40.000 And by the end, my skin is tingling.

00:01:42.000 I feel high.

00:01:44.000 It's wild.

00:01:45.000 I know.

00:01:46.000 That's why I love that I was mentioning last time I was on Sam Harris' meditations because they have you reflecting on your own consciousness.

00:01:54.000 It's like, notice, pay attention to where you're paying attention.

00:01:59.000 It's so trippy and I'll get it in my head and the next thing I know I'm like, this is like taking acid.

00:02:04.000 I love Sam Harris.

00:02:05.000 I love him so much.

00:02:06.000 He's terrified of the COVID, though.

00:02:07.000 Terrified.

00:02:08.000 Oh, is he?

00:02:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:09.000 He's not doing anything live.

00:02:10.000 Really?

00:02:11.000 Oh, he's not.

00:02:11.000 Oh, Sam.

00:02:15.000 He's the one who had me so scared in the beginning.

00:02:17.000 I feel like I'm like, come out and play, Sam!

00:02:18.000 But he knew somebody, though, that got it early in Italy and got really sick.

00:02:23.000 But then, upon questioning, I was asking him a bunch of things.

00:02:27.000 Like, the guy was drinking.

00:02:28.000 Like, the guy was partying.

00:02:29.000 And then he was skiing.

00:02:31.000 And then he caught COVID. So, the people that I know that have got it and got it bad were all compromised.

00:02:36.000 They were all beaten down, worn out, and then it got them.

00:02:39.000 That's where it gets scary.

00:02:40.000 Or you don't know.

00:02:41.000 We had a friend whose boyfriend's brother died of it, and he got it, but he was sick for two weeks, and his wife was like, please go, and he didn't because he's a dude.

00:02:54.000 And then he went and found out that he had diabetes or something.

00:02:59.000 He didn't even know he had it, and so he was compromised, and it was really tragic and sad.

00:03:04.000 Well, a nurse was telling us, how harsh is she? 1.00

00:03:08.000 Yeah, she's hardcore. 1.00

00:03:10.000 Harsh.

00:03:10.000 I like it, though.

00:03:12.000 She's great.

00:03:13.000 I love her.

00:03:13.000 But anyway, when she's doing the test, she's telling us about all these kids that vape that are dying.

00:03:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:20.000 I've been hearing this. 1.00

00:03:21.000 Fucking getting pneumonia and dying from vaping. 1.00

00:03:23.000 Here's a fun story. 0.99

00:03:25.000 I was talking to my physical therapist, and he is married to an Italian woman, so they were hearing all the stories from Italy, and then all the whole thing about hydrochloroquine came out.

00:03:39.000 Hydroxy?

00:03:40.000 Hydroxychloroquine, however the hell you say it.

00:03:44.000 And he had been hearing from the people in Italy that this was kind of working and it was helping. 0.99

00:03:51.000 So after Trump said it was helping, he was trying to get some on the west side and he's like, all these motherfuckers who are talking shit about it, you couldn't get it anywhere on the west side of LA. Every rich person in LA went out and bought it and then was like, 0.99

00:04:06.000 oh, we shouldn't be listening to this.

00:04:09.000 He's like, but you couldn't get it anywhere.

00:04:10.000 Well, my doctor told me that people are not taking it because they hate Trump.

00:04:15.000 Oh, wow.

00:04:16.000 When Schaub got it, they asked Schaub what your political leanings are.

00:04:20.000 And he's like, what?

00:04:21.000 And he's like, well, hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be very effective in the early stages of the virus.

00:04:25.000 Especially early, yeah. 0.99

00:04:25.000 He goes, fucking give it to me! 0.99

00:04:27.000 What are you talking about?! 1.00

00:04:29.000 But imagine if you're like, fuck Trump! 1.00

00:04:31.000 I'm gonna die! 1.00

00:04:33.000 I'm gonna die on this hill! 1.00

00:04:34.000 Fuck Trump! 1.00

00:04:36.000 People have lost their minds. 1.00

00:04:37.000 Lost their minds.

00:04:38.000 It's a...

00:04:39.000 I saw a tweet yesterday that was like, I'm so tired.

00:04:42.000 I'm so tired.

00:04:43.000 I'm like, what are you...

00:04:44.000 This whole idea of everybody being like, I'm so exhausted. 1.00

00:04:47.000 I'm like, you're sitting on your fucking ass. 1.00

00:04:49.000 You're watching Netflix. 1.00

00:04:50.000 You're on your couch.

00:04:51.000 You're waiting for Postmates. 0.99

00:04:53.000 Like, what are you fucking tired from? 0.99

00:04:55.000 What? 0.99

00:04:55.000 You're exhausted from tweeting? 0.99

00:04:57.000 You know, like, it's so hard educating all these people, all these fascists online all day. 0.99

00:05:02.000 What are you fucking exhausted from? 0.98

00:05:05.000 I don't understand. 1.00

00:05:07.000 Educating fascists. 0.97

00:05:08.000 Everybody who disagrees with you is a fascist. 0.90

00:05:10.000 Everyone. 0.82

00:05:11.000 That's just how it is.

00:05:12.000 And I was talking to Colin Quinn for my podcast and we were talking about this. 0.98

00:05:17.000 I was like, do you not get shit for like, he's like, I feel like we're kind of in the same place. 0.98

00:05:21.000 And I was like, don't you get shit for being like both sides? 0.99

00:05:24.000 And he was like, isn't that insane though? 0.99

00:05:26.000 Like the people who are like trying to see things reasonably are the ones who are like getting attacked. 1.00

00:05:32.000 He's like, no, the middle used to be the people looking at the zealots being like, you're fucking crazy. 0.98

00:05:36.000 And now they're looking at us and they're like, you guys need to be stopped. 0.99

00:05:40.000 The middle needs to be stopped.

00:05:42.000 All of this reason needs to be stopped.

00:05:44.000 Well, because you make them confront their own biases.

00:05:47.000 Yeah.

00:05:47.000 That's what the problem is.

00:05:48.000 If you're a reasonable person, especially if you're someone like you or I, who has a platform and you're reasonable, and there's a lot of people listening, and then people are like, wow, she's actually got some good points.

00:05:59.000 No, she doesn't! 0.99

00:06:00.000 She's a fascist! 1.00

00:06:02.000 Look, I'm no Alyssa Milano. 0.99

00:06:04.000 I don't have a platform like you guys.

00:06:07.000 But...

00:06:08.000 Well, it's a real shame that her platform was a third of mine. 0.99

00:06:12.000 That's like a really delusional...

00:06:15.000 This is the two plus two equals five math.

00:06:20.000 Yeah, that math is...

00:06:22.000 That's like Hollywood math when they tell you a movie didn't make any money.

00:06:25.000 Yeah.

00:06:26.000 It's really wild watching the hatred that people who are...

00:06:34.000 So the other day I saw, I'll say something like, I've heard, because I put out an article, and it was like, why I'm not voting for the president. 0.99

00:06:45.000 I'm like, fuck this. 0.99

00:06:46.000 I'm out. 0.99

00:06:48.000 And I got all these emails, like 900 emails in two days from people who are conservative voting for Biden, from people who are Democrats.

00:06:56.000 And I'm saying, I'm like, I'm hearing a lot of people saying that they've never voted for Trump or considered it, and they're going to.

00:07:02.000 And they're like, that's propaganda!

00:07:04.000 I was like, so anything you don't want to hear is propaganda.

00:07:08.000 Like, I'm just reporting what I'm hearing anecdotally from people, and you're telling me it's propaganda.

00:07:15.000 It's really the opposite of propaganda.

00:07:17.000 No!

00:07:17.000 The problem is, the media overwhelmingly is liberal.

00:07:23.000 Right.

00:07:23.000 Overwhelmingly.

00:07:24.000 Like, there's Fox News, and what's that AON? Right.

00:07:27.000 What is that?

00:07:28.000 The QAnon network?

00:07:29.000 Whatever it is. 1.00

00:07:30.000 There's one crazy network that's like full right on the edge of the cliff with a fucking eagle tattoo on their back. 0.99

00:07:39.000 And then you have everything else. 0.99

00:07:41.000 I mean, everything else is liberal, whether they pretend to be or not.

00:07:45.000 They lean liberal, whether it's NBC, CBS, MSNBC, of course CNN. CNN is atrocious.

00:07:53.000 They're so bad.

00:07:54.000 They used to be my favorite source of news.

00:07:56.000 And now, when you see Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo talking about white people and how white people have every advantage, like, why don't you have an education?

00:08:07.000 Why don't you have a loan?

00:08:08.000 And Chris Cuomo's just standing there letting Don Lemon say this.

00:08:11.000 I'm like, what are you guys talking about?

00:08:12.000 They're parodies.

00:08:13.000 Have you ever been to Appalachia?

00:08:14.000 No, they haven't.

00:08:15.000 Do you know about really poor white people?

00:08:17.000 No.

00:08:17.000 They're there.

00:08:18.000 There's poor white people all over the world.

00:08:20.000 I tweeted something about it. 0.95

00:08:21.000 It's so crazy.

00:08:22.000 They were like, Don Lemon's calling out celebrities and I am here for it.

00:08:25.000 And I was like, Don Lemon is the arsonist standing in the house asking for everyone else to put out the fire.

00:08:31.000 This guy has been so divisive.

00:08:33.000 What are you even talking about?

00:08:35.000 All generalizations.

00:08:36.000 All of them.

00:08:37.000 Do nobody any good.

00:08:38.000 No, but they're fun.

00:08:39.000 But I just made one.

00:08:40.000 I know, but they're so fun.

00:08:41.000 They are very fun.

00:08:42.000 I mean, we're comics.

00:08:43.000 We live in the world of generalizations.

00:08:45.000 I said this waitressing, stereotypes don't exist in a void. 1.00

00:08:49.000 Like, as a waitress, it was 10% waitressing, 90% trying not to profile people.

00:08:56.000 That was the hardest part of my job.

00:08:58.000 Anti-bias training. 1.00

00:08:59.000 It's just like, all right, these white ladies aren't going to be a pain in the ass, these white ladies. 1.00

00:09:03.000 Ah, fuck! 1.00

00:09:04.000 Ah! 1.00

00:09:05.000 But the fact that you could say that on CNN, you could say something ridiculously biased and in a gross generalization on CNN, as long as you're saying it about the right people, whether you're mocking all Trump supporters and being dumb. 0.95

00:09:19.000 Do you remember when he did that? 0.87

00:09:20.000 And then there was this whole thing where they said, I was not mocking them.

00:09:24.000 I heard a joke and I laughed.

00:09:26.000 He was like fake laughing.

00:09:28.000 It was so not funny.

00:09:30.000 It was like, what is this? 0.97

00:09:32.000 It was like when you go to one of those alt rooms and someone's laughing at some shit that you know nobody thinks is really funny. 0.97

00:09:37.000 Like, what is happening here? 0.97

00:09:39.000 What is this weird voodoo in the air that's forcing people to comply?

00:09:42.000 I think one of the things that really was surprising to me that I'm hearing from a lot of people, and in my next column I kind of talk about this, is like the mainstream media inadvertently red-pilled a huge sector of America during the pandemic.

00:09:58.000 Because they were like, lock up.

00:10:00.000 This is for the best.

00:10:01.000 Shut your business down.

00:10:03.000 Don't bring your kids to school.

00:10:04.000 Miss funerals.

00:10:05.000 Miss weddings.

00:10:06.000 Miss graduations.

00:10:08.000 Miss sports.

00:10:08.000 Miss comedy.

00:10:10.000 Miss everything.

00:10:10.000 Miss trick-or-treating.

00:10:12.000 Did you see that shit in LA? And then they were like, oh, but protests are okay. 1.00

00:10:16.000 And everyone in...

00:10:17.000 You know, how many people protested?

00:10:19.000 Like, what percentage?

00:10:20.000 Was it like 0.01%?

00:10:22.000 Enough to spread the virus.

00:10:24.000 Enough...

00:10:25.000 Good, solid number.

00:10:26.000 How about de Blasio?

00:10:28.000 He said the only protests you could do are Black Lives Matter protests. 1.00

00:10:31.000 Like, hey, motherfucker, this is America. 1.00

00:10:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:33.000 You can't do that. 1.00

00:10:34.000 No.

00:10:35.000 You can't say.

00:10:35.000 De Blasio's a parody, though.

00:10:37.000 How is he even real?

00:10:39.000 He can't be real.

00:10:40.000 He can't be.

00:10:41.000 He's a South Park mayor.

00:10:42.000 We are living in a South Park.

00:10:43.000 We are.

00:10:44.000 And so, yeah, I keep hearing this from people that that was, you know, I don't even think it was a protest because I think most people are actually on board, especially around George Floyd.

00:10:54.000 Everyone was pretty united.

00:10:55.000 Like, this is horrific.

00:10:56.000 Yes.

00:10:56.000 We need to address this.

00:10:58.000 Police brutality is a problem.

00:11:00.000 Someone should have stepped up, though.

00:11:02.000 Some mayor should have stepped up and said, I am with you, but we are going to have a real problem with health if we just all gather in a street like this.

00:11:10.000 And it's not even in the street.

00:11:12.000 It's the making posters beforehand at your buddy's house, you know, and like getting together afterwards and having drinks.

00:11:18.000 Everybody was still getting together in apartments and houses before and after these protests.

00:11:23.000 And it's interesting.

00:11:26.000 It's just that the thing I keep hearing is not even it's not even the protests.

00:11:30.000 It's the rioting. 0.93

00:11:31.000 And when you're standing in front of a burning building and you're saying these are mostly peaceful people fucking have eyes, right? 0.95

00:11:38.000 Like, you are lying to their face. 0.94

00:11:40.000 And I just think they overplayed their hand.

00:11:42.000 I think you're right.

00:11:43.000 That CNN piece that said how the riots are being misconstrued by right-wing media while they're mostly peaceful riots.

00:11:52.000 And they made that with a photo of a building on fire.

00:11:56.000 Yeah.

00:11:58.000 It is so crazy how gaslighty that is.

00:12:01.000 That's the biggest gaslighting event of our time.

00:12:05.000 It's actually just demanding that you swallow the lie.

00:12:08.000 It's even worse than gaslighting.

00:12:10.000 It's just demanding you comply with the lie that they're presenting.

00:12:14.000 Now, we get this on the right, too, where it's like you'll directly contradict something that is clearly on video that you said.

00:12:22.000 Climate change.

00:12:23.000 Climate change is the biggest one on the right where they just full on try to deny climate change and it's a part of the narrative of the ideology of the right.

00:12:32.000 There's a lot of people that just deny the narrative of climate change.

00:12:35.000 There are young Republicans who are changing this though.

00:12:40.000 And you should have some of them on because they're young.

00:12:43.000 Give me some names.

00:12:43.000 I will.

00:12:44.000 There's some young kids who are really pushing back against.

00:12:47.000 They don't like that.

00:12:48.000 They believe that we should conserve our parks, that we should conserve, that it's important.

00:12:52.000 And they hate that it's become this kind of partisan thing and that it's now Republicans are anti-climate is this messaging.

00:13:00.000 And so there are some young people in that space.

00:13:02.000 They just don't have...

00:13:04.000 A big enough voice really yet.

00:13:06.000 But they're out there and they're pushing back against that and they have some really cool things that are going on.

00:13:11.000 Well, that's good because there does need to be some pushback.

00:13:13.000 The problem with the narrative on the right is that they're so pro-business that they're willing to sacrifice some environmental standards and people see the repercussions of that.

00:13:23.000 They're like, hey, listen, I understand that you want people to be able to work and you want people to make a living and you want to raise a standard and trickle down economics and all that shit, but you can't Sacrifice the fucking environment right like that should be a no-brainer first do no harm right like a doctor first do no harm and that you're doing harm like you can't make money while you're polluting like that's that's not good for anybody's future yeah they're seeing this in in areas where that you know I think it was reading like the Louisiana belt

00:13:53.000 there's like tons of instances of more COVID mortality and they like chemical alley where all those fucking chemical plants are And that's the kind of untold cause and effect that we need to pay more attention to. 0.87

00:14:08.000 This is why I hate when these things... 0.74

00:14:10.000 The climate shouldn't be...

00:14:11.000 We should be able to have a conversation about this.

00:14:14.000 And I think with the right wing, it's more that it's used as a cudgel to silence everybody and you're supposed to just get on board.

00:14:22.000 And there's so many things that are...

00:14:25.000 A lot of them will agree that we might be having some effect on it, but what is the best way to...

00:14:31.000 To try and make those changes.

00:14:32.000 So that nuanced conversation is what needs to happen and everything is just partisan.

00:14:39.000 Everything.

00:14:40.000 Even the mask thing.

00:14:41.000 Like all of it.

00:14:43.000 And you want to be able to come from a place of facts.

00:14:45.000 It's the same with police brutality.

00:14:47.000 All of these things.

00:14:47.000 If we can start with what the actual facts are, that would be awesome and productive, but we don't start there.

00:14:54.000 We start with like...

00:14:56.000 Well, the police brutality thing, all you get is videos of horrific actions.

00:14:59.000 You know, I saw a video.

00:15:00.000 There's a really terrible video that's going around right now that people are using as evidence that cops are racist because they didn't shoot this white guy who wound up shooting and killing a cop in Oklahoma.

00:15:11.000 Did you see it?

00:15:12.000 Oh, I haven't seen it.

00:15:13.000 I've been blissfully offline.

00:15:15.000 Every time I drink coffee with cream, I say, I'm not going to do that again because I do it on the podcast and then I get phlegm and I have to...

00:15:20.000 That's all right.

00:15:21.000 It makes you human, Joe.

00:15:23.000 It's not for people listening.

00:15:24.000 It's Annoying, bro!

00:15:26.000 But it's a bad video.

00:15:27.000 They pull this guy over.

00:15:29.000 They mace him.

00:15:30.000 They hit him with the pepper spray.

00:15:33.000 They tase him.

00:15:34.000 They do everything. 0.96

00:15:35.000 And he's just drugged up or a psycho.

00:15:38.000 Who knows?

00:15:38.000 And they get into some sort of a wrestling exchange and he gets the cop's gun and unloads into this guy's body.

00:15:44.000 And you hear the cop from the cop's body camera.

00:15:47.000 You see him get shot and you see him scream. 1.00

00:15:50.000 This is the fucking thing about our dystopia that I hate. 1.00

00:15:52.000 I've seen someone die like every day for the past two weeks online. 0.99

00:15:57.000 But here's my point.

00:15:59.000 People are looking at this saying, oh, the cops are racist because if that was a black guy, they would have shot him. 0.99

00:16:04.000 Right. 0.95

00:16:04.000 My position is, okay, these are two totally different cops. 0.95

00:16:08.000 And maybe they didn't shoot him because they would have never shot anybody.

00:16:12.000 Maybe these cops never would have shot a black guy or a white guy or an Asian guy or anybody.

00:16:16.000 But the point is, this is how dangerous it is to be a cop.

00:16:20.000 And this is why non-lethal... 1.00

00:16:22.000 There's two cops on one guy and they can't control this motherfucker. 0.99

00:16:25.000 And this is why non-lethal methods are... 0.99

00:16:28.000 The cops are reluctant to use them sometimes.

00:16:30.000 And this is also... 0.98

00:16:32.000 It just shows you how fucking hard it is to be a cop. 0.99

00:16:35.000 You get this crazy dude and you can't tase him. 0.99

00:16:38.000 You can't pepper spray him. 1.00

00:16:39.000 He still gets your gun and shoots and kills one of you. 1.00

00:16:42.000 It's fucking nuts. 1.00

00:16:43.000 It is nuts. 1.00

00:16:45.000 And I think you can't really jump to, oh, this is racism with no evidence of racism.

00:16:51.000 Right.

00:16:52.000 In that case, there is no racism, right?

00:16:53.000 As far as we know. 0.99

00:16:56.000 If this was a black guy, they would have shot him. 1.00

00:16:57.000 I understand why they feel like that. 0.99

00:16:59.000 Because there are all these videos of black guys getting shot by cops. 0.98

00:17:03.000 And it is horrible. 0.95

00:17:04.000 But this situation is two totally different human beings.

00:17:08.000 That's the problem.

00:17:09.000 It's in the generalization.

00:17:10.000 The problem is in stereotypes.

00:17:12.000 The problem is in... 1.00

00:17:14.000 The real problem is that these fucking cops exist at all that would shoot a guy that's black. 1.00

00:17:20.000 Just because he's black. 1.00

00:17:21.000 And those guys are real. 0.98

00:17:22.000 And there's so many cops out there that have PTSD. So many cops out there that they just don't know what is going on.

00:17:30.000 They'll just shoot.

00:17:31.000 There's a lot of that.

00:17:33.000 I've had people writing me saying, I work with cops and they need better training.

00:17:39.000 Cops themselves will say, we need more training.

00:17:43.000 To act like some of them aren't racist is as delusional as acting like all of them are.

00:17:48.000 I think you have to take it on a case-by-case basis.

00:17:52.000 Honestly, the thing that Sam...

00:17:53.000 Did you listen to Sam Harris's hour-long thing that he did?

00:17:56.000 Everyone should listen to that.

00:17:59.000 It's very good.

00:17:59.000 It's based very much in what we know as far as facts because he's super reasonable.

00:18:08.000 I sent it to my dad, my center-left people in my life, and he was like, that was very good.

00:18:17.000 I don't think he hears that perspective.

00:18:20.000 Sam's a brave man.

00:18:22.000 Sam Harris is a brave man because he's already been attacked so many times.

00:18:36.000 Yeah, I don't have it on my phone.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, I really only use Twitter and I only have it on my desktop so that I can only check it when I'm in front of a computer.

00:18:56.000 That's even worse though, because then you should be writing.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, I mean, that might be a problem, too.

00:19:01.000 I might just need to delete it completely.

00:19:03.000 I think I'm going to get a computer that doesn't connect to the internet.

00:19:06.000 I think, you know...

00:19:07.000 Like, from 1982?

00:19:09.000 Yeah, they have those.

00:19:11.000 Like, Snowden has one that has, like, a switch.

00:19:13.000 Yeah.

00:19:14.000 Like, you literally shut the Wi-Fi off.

00:19:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:16.000 I might need that.

00:19:16.000 So you can't get tempted.

00:19:18.000 Yeah.

00:19:18.000 So, like, while you're working, the Wi-Fi is off.

00:19:20.000 I mean, you can always go to the Wi-Fi and do the fucking thing. 0.98

00:19:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:19:23.000 But it seems like a... 0.98

00:19:25.000 They have apps for that, too. 1.00

00:19:27.000 It's a fucking app. 0.99

00:19:27.000 I want a button, like a click. 0.99

00:19:30.000 You could just unplug the Wi-Fi.

00:19:31.000 No!

00:19:32.000 No.

00:19:33.000 It's just too tempting.

00:19:35.000 I mean, you're a writer.

00:19:37.000 You know as much as anybody.

00:19:38.000 The temptation to procrastinate.

00:19:41.000 Yeah.

00:19:41.000 It's so hard to avoid.

00:19:44.000 I mean, I actually want to know how many words I've written on Twitter.

00:19:48.000 And I've deleted, I always kind of just delete, I'll have a mood where I'm like, I'm deleting everything.

00:19:54.000 And then I'll just delete every tweet.

00:19:56.000 And so I was thinking like, God, it's really a shame how many books I've written on Twitter.

00:20:02.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 I really like the great American novel.

00:20:07.000 Twitter's also giving you a very large following. 0.99

00:20:10.000 That's how, I mean, I knew you from your store, but I really got into your shit because of Twitter. 0.98

00:20:14.000 Yeah, no, I think you can tell pretty quickly about someone on Twitter. 1.00

00:20:19.000 I think it's the best social media for seeing who someone is because everyone, no one's afraid to be kind of their piece of shit self on Twitter. 0.89

00:20:27.000 It's the most honest, I think, of social medias because it's primarily a battle of the wits. 0.98

00:20:36.000 If you choose to engage.

00:20:37.000 It's not so much Instagram, which I can't stand.

00:20:42.000 I don't know how anyone does Instagram.

00:20:46.000 Are you on it?

00:20:46.000 I'm on it, but I never use it.

00:20:48.000 I hate it.

00:20:49.000 What do you hate about it? 0.97

00:20:50.000 It's so fake.

00:20:52.000 It's so curated.

00:20:53.000 Because all the people on Instagram showing me their lives, they call me with all their problems. 1.00

00:21:00.000 I'm like, I know what's going on in your life, bitch. 1.00

00:21:03.000 It's not looking like this. 0.99

00:21:04.000 It's so true. 0.84

00:21:06.000 And so I think it's just as like phony to me and I go in there and I'm like, I can't.

00:21:10.000 And all the women are just, how does anyone feel okay about themselves on there? 1.00

00:21:15.000 I spent five minutes on there.

00:21:16.000 I was like, I'm old. 0.97

00:21:18.000 I'm ugly.

00:21:19.000 I'm getting chest wrinkles. 0.62

00:21:21.000 How do I get rid of chest wrinkles?

00:21:23.000 I gotta call Whitney.

00:21:25.000 Call Whitney.

00:21:26.000 Yeah, she'll get you on an NAD drip. 1.00

00:21:29.000 Yeah, this filter thing that everyone's using is so bananas.

00:21:32.000 Oh, that one that you posted about your daughter's filter and made you the pretty lady? 0.84

00:21:37.000 How weird is that?

00:21:39.000 You know, that was used in a class at Texas Tech.

00:21:42.000 That's terrifying.

00:21:43.000 Yeah, it is terrifying.

00:21:44.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 But that's what girls are dealing with. 1.00

00:21:47.000 They look at themselves in the mirror and then they look at, like the Courtney or Chloe, which one?

00:21:52.000 None of those people are real.

00:21:53.000 But which was the one where she had a totally different head?

00:21:56.000 Oh, maybe the old...

00:21:58.000 I don't know any of them.

00:21:59.000 The old one?

00:22:00.000 Which one?

00:22:01.000 You're right.

00:22:01.000 Which one?

00:22:02.000 Chloe.

00:22:03.000 Chloe.

00:22:03.000 Okay.

00:22:04.000 I mean, you know what she looks like. 0.87

00:22:05.000 Yeah.

00:22:06.000 She looks one way, and then the picture was like, okay, who's this?

00:22:08.000 Yeah.

00:22:09.000 And it wasn't her.

00:22:10.000 I mean, they're doing stuff.

00:22:12.000 They're moving their frame around and changing.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, but they're also doing stuff in real life.

00:22:16.000 But this one was so bad that she photoshopped one side of the chain on her neck off and So she's wearing a chain.

00:22:24.000 She's got like a little chain.

00:22:25.000 But she didn't realize it's a very thin chain that she had accidentally photoshopped.

00:22:29.000 One side of the chain was gone.

00:22:32.000 Was not in the image.

00:22:34.000 Like look at it.

00:22:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:22:37.000 But look at the chain, like half on the right-hand side.

00:22:40.000 The chain is missing.

00:22:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:43.000 Is that even her body? 0.78

00:22:45.000 I mean, I guess.

00:22:47.000 Maybe.

00:22:47.000 That is so crazy.

00:22:49.000 But it's so damaging.

00:22:50.000 It's so much pressure for young girls.

00:22:53.000 And her as well.

00:22:54.000 She's got to go outside.

00:22:55.000 I'm not worried about her.

00:22:58.000 I'm worried about her, too.

00:22:59.000 Okay, I'm worried about her.

00:23:00.000 She's a human being.

00:23:01.000 She is.

00:23:02.000 You stop.

00:23:03.000 That's how you get people off your case.

00:23:06.000 You attack other people.

00:23:07.000 No, I'm not attacking. 0.64

00:23:09.000 No, I'm attacking you.

00:23:10.000 What you're doing is problematic.

00:23:12.000 It's terrible.

00:23:13.000 She's a person.

00:23:14.000 She's a human being.

00:23:15.000 You're dehumanizing a Kardashian.

00:23:17.000 It's really bad.

00:23:18.000 I know.

00:23:19.000 It's not cool.

00:23:20.000 I don't feel bad for them.

00:23:22.000 They're rich.

00:23:23.000 Wow, but that's a problem when you say things like that. 0.89

00:23:25.000 Because they suffer from mental illness as well as anybody.

00:23:28.000 We all suffer.

00:23:30.000 We do.

00:23:31.000 But it's easier when you're rich.

00:23:34.000 Can we just agree on that?

00:23:36.000 I think that could be the same picture.

00:23:38.000 Well, how do they do the face smiling?

00:23:40.000 I don't know.

00:23:41.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:23:42.000 I don't mean the exact same photo, but the same photo shoot.

00:23:45.000 Oh, wow.

00:23:47.000 That's crazy.

00:23:48.000 I don't know.

00:23:49.000 They have a lot done to their bodies, too.

00:23:51.000 I think someone could probably do that at a doctor's office.

00:23:54.000 Could make her look like that, too. 0.96

00:23:55.000 I mean, if I had enough money, maybe.

00:23:57.000 You think so?

00:23:59.000 Get crazy?

00:24:00.000 We'll see when I have money.

00:24:01.000 I'll be like, hey!

00:24:02.000 I'll come in and look completely different.

00:24:04.000 I'll be like, where's Bridget?

00:24:06.000 And who are you?

00:24:08.000 I'm Bridget.

00:24:09.000 I just got rich and now I have tons of work.

00:24:13.000 I've reconstructed my entire being.

00:24:15.000 Remember when Renee Zellweger did some stuff?

00:24:18.000 Yeah, it ruins her life.

00:24:19.000 What do you...

00:24:20.000 You can't...

00:24:21.000 We know what you look like.

00:24:22.000 What was the...

00:24:22.000 Who was the original one who did this?

00:24:24.000 Jennifer Gray.

00:24:25.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 Yeah, she said it ruined her life.

00:24:28.000 She was like known for her nose and then she got the nose job and it kind of ruined her ability to get booked. 1.00

00:24:35.000 To work.

00:24:35.000 Yeah.

00:24:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:24:37.000 I think she said that.

00:24:38.000 I might be making that up.

00:24:38.000 That makes sense.

00:24:39.000 Well, she kind of stopped working.

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:42.000 And she was hot. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Yeah, I mean, a nose that's not perfect does not make you unsexy.

00:24:51.000 It just doesn't.

00:24:52.000 It comes from within.

00:24:56.000 Let's not get crazy.

00:24:59.000 She had a beautiful body. 1.00

00:25:00.000 She had a great personality.

00:25:01.000 She was pretty. 0.97

00:25:02.000 She just had a non-perfect nose. 1.00

00:25:05.000 It's funny.

00:25:06.000 But guess what?

00:25:06.000 So do I. A lot of people do.

00:25:08.000 I was just joking about this the other day.

00:25:10.000 Someone was asking me how I stay sane and COVID and what I'm doing.

00:25:14.000 I'm like, I focus on the only two things that matter in life.

00:25:17.000 Being hot and rich.

00:25:22.000 Try to get hotter and richer.

00:25:24.000 That's the run.

00:25:25.000 I get mad on Twitter, I do push-ups.

00:25:30.000 The temptation to alter your face like that is, I guess, if you see some of the success stories, like some of the other Kardashians that have done it and it worked out awesome.

00:25:41.000 Yeah, there's a lot of pressure.

00:25:43.000 I was not too into any of it, and then I started being on camera more with all these media hits, and I was like, oh man.

00:25:51.000 Somebody did a screen cap for one of the interviews I did.

00:25:54.000 I was like, does the person doing this hate me?

00:25:56.000 Why would they choose that?

00:25:57.000 I looked like I was eating sheet cake for breakfast.

00:26:00.000 Did they catch you with eyes half closed with a mouth open?

00:26:02.000 I was like, how many chins do I have?

00:26:06.000 After this, the last time I was on your show, I just kept getting emails, stop eating bread.

00:26:12.000 Whoa, people are saying that to you?

00:26:14.000 That's so rude.

00:26:15.000 Yeah, calling me, texting me, and emailing me.

00:26:18.000 Friends?

00:26:18.000 Friends were saying this.

00:26:20.000 Stop eating bread.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, this is the kind of pressure that Hollywood puts on you.

00:26:26.000 Can't you just be funny?

00:26:27.000 Can't someone just be funny and smart?

00:26:29.000 I mean, fat shaming works. 0.86

00:26:31.000 It does work.

00:26:32.000 That's the problem.

00:26:33.000 It's worked on me.

00:26:34.000 It's worked on me.

00:26:34.000 When I went on that carnivore diet, one of the reasons I got up to like 205 pounds, which for me is kind of fat.

00:26:39.000 I was getting a belly and I was getting these love handles and we did this weigh-in thing for Sober October and people were like, look at your belly. 0.99

00:26:47.000 I'm like, fuck. 0.99

00:26:48.000 It is kind of sticking out. 0.99

00:26:49.000 And I got there for that episode at the worst time.

00:26:54.000 Because I had eaten.

00:26:55.000 And I eat like a wolf.

00:26:57.000 I eat like there's no food coming forever.

00:27:00.000 Like I'll eat like two steaks.

00:27:02.000 I'll eat like a bowl of pasta.

00:27:03.000 You must love Texas.

00:27:04.000 I love it out here.

00:27:05.000 Yeah.

00:27:06.000 I could eat barbecue for breakfast.

00:27:07.000 Which places have you gone to?

00:27:09.000 What's the one where Matthew McConaughey...

00:27:11.000 Oh, it's the one where Matthew McConaughey said his famous line in Dazed and Confused.

00:27:18.000 It's the...

00:27:19.000 Oh, it's good.

00:27:20.000 They use pepper.

00:27:21.000 Terry Black's?

00:27:22.000 No, it's spit...

00:27:23.000 There's so many out here.

00:27:25.000 You can't be bad and stay open.

00:27:28.000 Yes!

00:27:31.000 So good.

00:27:32.000 It's the place.

00:27:33.000 So good.

00:27:33.000 For a place that has like 2 million people living in it, they have like 150,000 barbecue spots.

00:27:39.000 There he is right there.

00:27:41.000 It's not paid to like that anymore.

00:27:43.000 Alright, alright.

00:27:44.000 Yeah, that place was amazing.

00:27:46.000 I went to the other one that's really big, the really famous one that's kind of out.

00:27:52.000 Franklin's?

00:27:52.000 No, I haven't been there yet.

00:27:54.000 I heard it's amazing.

00:27:55.000 La Barbecue?

00:27:56.000 No, it's a...

00:27:57.000 It begins with an R. Yeah, it's like an hour of us just naming barbecue places.

00:28:03.000 Yeah.

00:28:03.000 I found out through Adam Curry that that actually was...

00:28:07.000 Germans came here and they had like a smoked meat tradition from Germany and they brought that and it became Texas Barbecue.

00:28:15.000 Have you been down to Green?

00:28:17.000 Green?

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:18.000 Green, Texas?

00:28:18.000 It's not far, but there's like an old...

00:28:22.000 It's a dance hall, kind of common.

00:28:24.000 We went the other night.

00:28:25.000 It was awesome.

00:28:26.000 There was just a guy.

00:28:27.000 I have a video.

00:28:28.000 Did you dance?

00:28:28.000 You can't dance because everybody has to kind of social distance in there.

00:28:33.000 And he was just sitting on stage playing the guitar.

00:28:37.000 It's a tiny little town, but I think there is a German-founded town.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:28:45.000 Fredericksburg is very German, and that's a place that's got a lot of craft places and wineries.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, there's tons of history here.

00:28:55.000 I was in Georgetown and there was a protest in front of the city hall because there's a Confederate statue.

00:29:04.000 It was a small protest.

00:29:05.000 How many people?

00:29:07.000 It was mostly white people. 0.70

00:29:10.000 Do you think they got there because of a Russian troll account? 0.90

00:29:13.000 I don't know.

00:29:14.000 I spoke to one of the Confederate dudes after.

00:29:19.000 Supporters?

00:29:19.000 Well, he's a descendant of these fighters, and he was trying to explain that they just don't want them to desecrate.

00:29:27.000 He's like, we wouldn't go down to Green and desecrate their soldiers, and they were Union soldiers.

00:29:32.000 And we just think you don't desecrate soldiers.

00:29:35.000 That was like his whole argument for it, and he's like of the lineage.

00:29:40.000 And so I was just chatting with him, and he was saying...

00:29:44.000 I'm a descendant of Mao, and you know, the way I feel is like, leave Mao alone.

00:29:50.000 And he was like, you know, you just don't come and like desecrate the statues and whatnot.

00:29:55.000 But he he said they came every Tuesday and they left it dark.

00:29:59.000 And it seemed like they were reasonable conversation.

00:30:02.000 It seemed pretty, you know, reasonable.

00:30:05.000 It wasn't like screaming on one side and another.

00:30:08.000 It was like pretty chill.

00:30:10.000 It is a good question, right?

00:30:11.000 Like, if there's something that's openly racist and represents one of the worst aspects of our country's history, like, how do you treat it?

00:30:18.000 Do you just leave a statue up?

00:30:19.000 Or should we have, like, maybe we should have, like, a graveyard for Confederate statues, and you could go.

00:30:26.000 And this one was actually in Huntsville, Alabama.

00:30:29.000 It was actually in front of the courthouse until last year.

00:30:31.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:30:32.000 Mm-hmm.

00:30:34.000 We could go on a tour.

00:30:35.000 Instead of taking them down and smashing them, wouldn't it be interesting if there was a place you could go where you could see all of them?

00:30:41.000 But then people would go and be like, we need to put these back!

00:30:45.000 Put them back where they belong! 0.97

00:30:47.000 Well, I feel kind of like, yeah, we don't need them.

00:30:51.000 But the problem is there's a process that we usually go through to take them down.

00:30:57.000 So I would generally err on the side of going through the process.

00:31:02.000 But...

00:31:03.000 Yeah, but the process doesn't work sometimes.

00:31:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:06.000 And sometimes people just feel like they just want to pull them down.

00:31:08.000 This is another thing that's going on right now.

00:31:10.000 This is the perfect storm, the convergence of all these different things that are happening at the same time, and one of them being the COVID lockdown.

00:31:17.000 Yeah.

00:31:18.000 Social media, the COVID lockdown, the polarization of our country with Trump, and then, you know, this weird thing where everybody has to pretend that Biden isn't dying.

00:31:29.000 Yeah.

00:31:30.000 Like, this is all happening together at the same time.

00:31:32.000 Like, everyone has to pretend.

00:31:33.000 He's going to do a great job.

00:31:34.000 I'm going to vote for him.

00:31:35.000 We just need to get Trump out of office.

00:31:36.000 Like, oh my god.

00:31:37.000 Can we freeze this?

00:31:39.000 Can we freeze this and rethink this?

00:31:40.000 Do you guys have anybody else on deck?

00:31:42.000 No one.

00:31:43.000 I mean, I guess Harris is on deck.

00:31:45.000 She's wearing Timbalands.

00:31:46.000 I guess she's one of us.

00:31:49.000 I seriously love the tweet.

00:31:50.000 Whoever it was, it was like, oh, I found the undercover cop.

00:31:54.000 They're like, anyone who sees anyone wearing these in a club, this brand new is the undercover cop.

00:32:00.000 Charlemagne on Instagram was like, you know, because they were saying that she's bringing back Timberlands. 0.99

00:32:06.000 And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:32:09.000 He's in New York! 1.00

00:32:11.000 Dudes in New York have been wearing Timbalands forever.

00:32:14.000 They've been wearing them since the 80s.

00:32:16.000 Or whenever they started wearing them, they never stopped wearing them.

00:32:19.000 She's bringing back Timbalands? 0.61

00:32:21.000 That's like some guy saying, I'm bringing back Chucks.

00:32:24.000 I'm bringing back Converse All-Stars. 1.00

00:32:25.000 Fuck you, you are! 1.00

00:32:26.000 They never went away, man! 1.00

00:32:28.000 You can't bring back something that never went away.

00:32:30.000 And Timbalands, in New York especially, never went away.

00:32:34.000 Yeah, you're not allowed to go back to Biden.

00:32:37.000 You're not allowed to say that.

00:32:39.000 You're problematic.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, I'm a problem.

00:32:41.000 But I've been getting canceled for that for six months now.

00:32:45.000 I said in that column, I said something like, he may or may not be slipping into dementia.

00:32:49.000 I mentioned about why I'm not voting.

00:32:51.000 And then someone from the New York Times said...

00:32:54.000 That is a widely debunked conspiracy theory that he's slipping into dementia.

00:33:00.000 And I said, okay, I said may or may not, and can you post, like, cite your source for where this has been debunked so that my, like, people reading this thread can see it.

00:33:10.000 And this New York Times researcher, writer, says, well, I've seen him speaking, and that's just what I gather.

00:33:18.000 Like, you seeing something... 0.98

00:33:21.000 You're a bad predator.

00:33:22.000 Isn't widely debunking a situation? 0.64

00:33:25.000 Okay, so you see something and have a different opinion and other people have a different opinion.

00:33:29.000 That's not widely like, oh, well, I've seen it and that's it.

00:33:33.000 Could you imagine?

00:33:34.000 Let's pretend that Kamala Harris was the Democratic nominee and Biden was a Republican. 0.91

00:33:39.000 Could you imagine how savage they would be at attacking his mental incompetence? 0.81

00:33:47.000 Yeah, no.

00:33:47.000 No, that's actually a really interesting thought experiment.

00:33:51.000 Well, this is where this bizarre bias comes into play, and this is where everybody's getting gaslit, because they're pretending that everything's okay, because all they want to do is get Trump out of office.

00:34:01.000 But in doing that, you're exposing this very bizarre tendency that people have to comply.

00:34:12.000 We're good to go. 1.00

00:34:29.000 Or we'll burn your fucking house down. 1.00

00:34:31.000 We have to stop these fascists or we'll burn your house down. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Some guy offered me an interview with someone who I probably could get an interview with him anyway. 0.91

00:34:39.000 And he said, if you vote for Biden, I will get you this guy as an interview.

00:34:44.000 Come on, we have to save the country.

00:34:46.000 What?

00:34:47.000 That was a real message I got.

00:34:49.000 Like, hey bro.

00:34:53.000 Jamie's laughing.

00:34:54.000 That's so...

00:34:56.000 Yeah, I understand where you're going with it.

00:34:58.000 It's so crazy. 0.99

00:34:59.000 It's fucking insane. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Come on, we have to save the country. 0.99

00:35:02.000 Are you sure?

00:35:03.000 What part is going to save?

00:35:06.000 What's going to happen?

00:35:08.000 When I was on, I did one of Brett's Unity campfires.

00:35:12.000 Oh, did you?

00:35:13.000 Yeah.

00:35:14.000 I was like, everyone is saying that the other side is the existential threat.

00:35:20.000 And then Brett was kind of like, well, we need to come together because that is the existential threat.

00:35:27.000 But isn't that...

00:35:28.000 I'm like, why is everyone on Flight 93?

00:35:31.000 Everyone's scared.

00:35:33.000 Of course.

00:35:34.000 But it's also...

00:35:35.000 I guess maybe I have optimistic faith in America.

00:35:40.000 I don't really see how Trump or Biden...

00:35:44.000 How can...

00:35:48.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:35:50.000 I hope that either one of them can't destroy America in four years because that means America's already fucked. 1.00

00:35:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:59.000 Well, we're kind of fucked. 0.99

00:36:01.000 I don't like saying... 0.99

00:36:02.000 I know my 16-year-old nephew and all his friends listen, and I don't want to give these children no hope for the future. 0.99

00:36:09.000 They have hope for the future, but we're fucked. 0.99

00:36:11.000 Do they? 1.00

00:36:12.000 Yeah, we do.

00:36:12.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 Listen, we're not in the fucking dark ages. 0.98

00:36:16.000 No! 1.00

00:36:16.000 The Mongols aren't coming over the hills with horses and flaming arrows and shit. 1.00

00:36:20.000 This is what I always say. 0.99

00:36:21.000 People are like, there's a civil war.

00:36:22.000 I'm like, America's too fat for a civil war.

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:25.000 Who's fighting?

00:36:26.000 What does that even look like?

00:36:28.000 There will be more armed conflict.

00:36:29.000 Right.

00:36:30.000 There will be.

00:36:30.000 That's going to happen.

00:36:31.000 Because when you have things like the Kenosha guy who shows up with an AR and a guy's trying to take his gun and he shoots them.

00:36:39.000 Yeah, they're LARPing.

00:36:40.000 All of this stuff is crazy.

00:36:41.000 Yeah.

00:36:42.000 All of it's crazy.

00:36:43.000 More of that stuff is going to happen if you have more of these conflicts.

00:36:46.000 And they're kids.

00:36:47.000 Well, the guy in Seattle is not a kid.

00:36:49.000 Wow.

00:36:49.000 Was it Seattle or Portland where he shot that?

00:36:51.000 Portland, right?

00:36:52.000 Portland?

00:36:53.000 It's all the same. 0.97

00:36:53.000 Shot the Trump supporter? 0.97

00:36:54.000 Yeah, it was Portland.

00:36:55.000 Yeah, that guy was not a kid. 1.00

00:36:57.000 He's just a fucking sociopath who found a team that he could get with. 0.99

00:37:01.000 Did you see the interview with him, with Vice? 1.00

00:37:03.000 Before they killed him?

00:37:04.000 Yeah, before they killed him.

00:37:05.000 Before the cops killed him. 1.00

00:37:06.000 What an idiot. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Did you ever see Documentary Now, that show, where they made fun of Vice? 1.00

00:37:13.000 They parodied Vice?

00:37:14.000 That interview with that guy reminded me exactly of the Documentary Now parody of Vice.

00:37:21.000 It was like, this can't be real.

00:37:23.000 Well, they interviewed a guy after he killed a guy in the street with a gun and then was justifying it.

00:37:31.000 Here's my face.

00:37:32.000 Here I am.

00:37:33.000 I definitely did it.

00:37:34.000 Admitting that he did it.

00:37:35.000 And the way he did it was in this weird, culty way.

00:37:39.000 What he was saying, I wasn't going to let him kill one of my friends of color.

00:37:45.000 That's what he said.

00:37:46.000 But it was so clear that this is a person who's saying the things that he thinks you're supposed to say to signal that you're on this team.

00:37:55.000 I think they believe it, though.

00:37:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:57.000 I mean, look, if you believe Trump is literally Hitler...

00:38:02.000 All of that behavior makes sense.

00:38:04.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 Because what lengths would you go to stop Hitler?

00:38:08.000 But it's the same thing in not calling out Joe Biden.

00:38:10.000 Yeah.

00:38:11.000 Right? 0.98

00:38:11.000 Not saying that Joe Biden is having mental issues. 0.98

00:38:14.000 It's the same thing because it's all...

00:38:16.000 What you're doing is you're saying things that don't necessarily have to make sense, but they align you with a group.

00:38:24.000 Right.

00:38:24.000 They align you with...

00:38:25.000 You're compliant.

00:38:26.000 You're fitting into the words that need to be said.

00:38:29.000 It's a cult.

00:38:30.000 Right.

00:38:30.000 Yeah.

00:38:30.000 And on both sides.

00:38:32.000 It's right wing and left wing.

00:38:33.000 Trump devotion syndrome.

00:38:34.000 Oh my god, it's crazy.

00:38:36.000 So there's Trump derangement, which is real, and there's Trump devotion syndrome, which is the MAGA side.

00:38:41.000 And it is...

00:38:41.000 It's real.

00:38:42.000 Oh, we made fun of him on Dumpster Fire just because he said something completely retarded and deserves to be mocked. 1.00

00:38:50.000 All politicians deserve to be mocked. 0.98

00:38:52.000 What happened, America?

00:38:53.000 We used to make fun of all of our politicians.

00:38:55.000 Yeah.

00:38:56.000 So, I think in that same episode, I had made fun of, like, Ben and the whole Cardi B thing, where he went viral.

00:39:05.000 What else was he?

00:39:06.000 Which was hilarious, by the way.

00:39:08.000 It's actually a gynecological condition. 0.63

00:39:09.000 If you listen to the whole 10 minutes, it's a pretty good bit.

00:39:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:13.000 It's pretty funny.

00:39:14.000 And so, he went...

00:39:16.000 He's funny.

00:39:16.000 Oh yeah, he's really funny.

00:39:18.000 He's a smart, funny dude.

00:39:19.000 He's funny.

00:39:19.000 So he retweeted it, and my cousin calls me, she's like, our comments on YouTube are like, insane people defending Trump.

00:39:28.000 They couldn't get past two minutes of us making, the next segment we make fun of Biden, and then proceed to make fun of Nancy Pelosi and everything else, but they could not get past two minutes of us making fun of Dear Leader.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, well, there's an issue.

00:39:41.000 I mean, and it works on both ways.

00:39:43.000 Trump tweeted a thing recently with me and Matt Taibbi talking about Biden, where I said that Biden...

00:39:49.000 Oh, the flashlight?

00:39:50.000 Yeah.

00:39:51.000 That's a great joke!

00:39:52.000 Thank you.

00:39:53.000 Well, I'm a comedian, and I was making a joke. 0.97

00:39:55.000 But on the same podcast, we talked about Trump being a sociopath. 0.98

00:39:58.000 We talked about all his lies. 1.00

00:40:00.000 It was just fucking lies. 1.00

00:40:02.000 Like, it was not a Trump-supporting podcast. 1.00

00:40:05.000 But Trump's like, good enough, snip, post it!

00:40:08.000 Ah!

00:40:09.000 MAGA! And everybody's like, ah!

00:40:11.000 Joe Rogan's MAGA! This is the world we live in.

00:40:13.000 We live in this world with no nuance.

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:16.000 And it's very culty.

00:40:18.000 But I wonder how many of those Trump supporters that you get on Twitter are bots.

00:40:22.000 Because a lot of them, a lot of them are.

00:40:24.000 No, the devotion is real.

00:40:26.000 The devotion's real.

00:40:26.000 For sure.

00:40:26.000 I mean, I know people in real life who are borderline QAnon.

00:40:31.000 And...

00:40:32.000 They cried watching the RNC. For sure.

00:40:36.000 The devotion.

00:40:37.000 And I understand.

00:40:38.000 Look, I get it, too, because he rose out of the domination of the mainstream media, the culture, the domination of academia, Hollywood.

00:40:49.000 All of it. 0.99

00:40:51.000 And he was like a fuck you vote by many people. 1.00

00:40:54.000 And they feel like he is defending them. 0.99

00:40:56.000 And the thing I hear from them over and over again is he will stand up.

00:41:00.000 He'll stand against this tide of insanity coming from the left.

00:41:04.000 He'll stand up for us.

00:41:05.000 That's why smart people are voting for him.

00:41:07.000 And that's a silent vote right now.

00:41:10.000 That's going to be just like 2016. This is propaganda, Jeff.

00:41:15.000 I thought everybody felt the way I feel.

00:41:18.000 This is another thing I keep hearing, which is hilarious.

00:41:21.000 People who told me that he could never win in 2016 and that it was impossible are telling me, again, it's impossible, he can't win.

00:41:30.000 I'm like...

00:41:32.000 You're telling me the thing that already happened that you thought was impossible is impossible!

00:41:36.000 What kind of logic is this?

00:41:38.000 It doesn't even... 0.99

00:41:39.000 They're so crazy! 0.99

00:41:40.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.98

00:41:41.000 And when, you know, the thing about Russian meddling...

00:41:44.000 When people talk about Russian meddling... 1.00

00:41:45.000 I love this shit. 1.00

00:41:46.000 But here's the real thing about Russian meddling. 1.00

00:41:48.000 The real thing is these trolls... 0.95

00:41:50.000 Like, they do affect people. 0.94

00:41:52.000 Yeah, they do.

00:41:53.000 It really does work.

00:41:55.000 Like, if you get enough of these troll accounts that they literally hire to post pro-Trump things and anti-Biden things and memes and all these things, like, it catches people up in the wave and they want to be a part of that group of people that's piling on against Biden and piling on for Trump.

00:42:13.000 And a lot of it, like, there was one...

00:42:17.000 There was a protest.

00:42:19.000 I think it was in Austin.

00:42:20.000 I forget where it was.

00:42:21.000 But it was a protest against white rage.

00:42:25.000 This is a protest.

00:42:26.000 And this dude traced the IP address back to Russia.

00:42:30.000 He's like, this is crazy.

00:42:31.000 But they're organizing protests.

00:42:34.000 I know.

00:42:35.000 I know.

00:42:35.000 Renee DiResta, she did this whole study of it, and it's really fascinating.

00:42:39.000 It is.

00:42:40.000 Because she found hundreds of thousands of these posts that were all from this internet research agency in Russia.

00:42:46.000 I love...

00:42:47.000 They're funny, some of them.

00:42:48.000 Yeah, I know.

00:42:48.000 I love it when something's trending on Twitter, and someone will be like, it's 9 a.m.

00:42:53.000 in Russia.

00:42:54.000 You know, like...

00:42:55.000 The bots have logged in.

00:42:56.000 Where it's something random, you're like, why is this trending?

00:42:58.000 And it's something anti-Biden or sowing dissent, and it's always spelled wrong, and it's just like, oh, Russia's logged in for their work day.

00:43:07.000 We do it, too. 0.97

00:43:08.000 This is what's fucked up about it. 0.97

00:43:09.000 It's like, we're talking about meddling in our elections, but you know what that's like? 0.99

00:43:14.000 That's like someone who's a fucking thief saying, someone's been stealing from me. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Like, what, they're stealing some shit you stole? 1.00

00:43:20.000 Like, what are you talking about? 0.99

00:43:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 No, it's been...

00:43:46.000 It's a wild...

00:43:48.000 You know, I had a funny experience kind of observing how people will engage with these bots.

00:43:54.000 And my nephew, who's probably too young to be on Twitter, has kind of recently got on.

00:44:00.000 He's like...

00:44:00.000 They call me D. He's like, look, D, I had a tweet that went pretty big.

00:44:03.000 And it was like him making some comment about...

00:44:06.000 They were coming after Lizzo and he made this kind of...

00:44:09.000 They were coming after Lizzo.

00:44:10.000 For some reason, and he made some comment about it that was smart, but it wasn't necessarily like, you know, A to B logic, because he's like 12. And people, adults, were commenting and yelling at him, and I'm like, oh, this is why I'm never going to argue with someone I don't know on Twitter again,

00:44:27.000 because they might be 12. It might be a 12-year-old.

00:44:31.000 Very likely.

00:44:33.000 Either 12 or, what is this?

00:44:34.000 Report, Arizona teens paid to file social media posts for campaigns.

00:44:39.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:44:40.000 Yeah, this is a Washington Post report of yesterday.

00:44:47.000 Apparently they're being paid and then when asked, this is the quote from the CEO of the company.

00:44:52.000 Real kids operating their real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.

00:44:57.000 Jake Hoffman, President and CEO of Rally Forge, said in an emailed statement Wednesday that the posts were nothing more than, in his quote, real kids operating real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.

00:45:12.000 He said, what these young Arizona activists are doing is honest and sincere political activism in the 21st century and in the age of COVID-19, whose firm was linked by the Post to the Turning Point Project.

00:45:24.000 Oh, it's Turning Point?

00:45:26.000 Yeah, it did not respond to questions.

00:45:28.000 Neither Turning Point Action nor the affiliated Turning Point USA responded for a request.

00:45:32.000 Turning Point is a conservative youth outreach organization.

00:45:35.000 Its founder, Charlie Kirk, was a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention.

00:45:41.000 Yeah.

00:45:42.000 So it's like a sweatshop?

00:45:43.000 So they're paying kids?

00:45:45.000 Yeah, we're starting to figure out how much they're paying to see if this is a job or...

00:45:47.000 Like these little political activist kids?

00:45:50.000 Imagine if there was a lot of money in it.

00:45:51.000 If you got real writers.

00:45:54.000 People like you start...

00:45:55.000 Oh, I could sow some serious dissent.

00:45:58.000 That's what I'm saying! 0.99

00:45:59.000 Everybody on both sides should be happy I'm not on either one of these fucking sides, and you too. 0.98

00:46:07.000 For real, right? 0.99

00:46:07.000 They should be thanking us that we're not picking a fucking side because I will bury the other side. 0.99

00:46:13.000 I know, right? 0.99

00:46:13.000 I've thought of that before. 0.99

00:46:15.000 I've thought of like starting an anonymous account and just saying all the things I really feel and just going to war with people on Twitter.

00:46:21.000 I've never done it and I won't do it.

00:46:23.000 I really won't do it because I feel like the problem with that being deceptive, like here's What I'm 100% committed to.

00:46:31.000 If I say something, it's because I mean it.

00:46:33.000 Yeah.

00:46:33.000 I have to do that.

00:46:34.000 Yeah.

00:46:35.000 That's got me here.

00:46:36.000 And we might be wrong a lot of the time.

00:46:38.000 I'm wrong a lot.

00:46:39.000 All the time.

00:46:40.000 But I'll tell you I was wrong.

00:46:41.000 Yeah.

00:46:42.000 But you can trust that the words that come out of my mouth are what I really think.

00:46:46.000 Well, I think, and I could be wrong, but I think we share a somewhat desire to explore honesty.

00:46:56.000 You know, honestly what I'm feeling.

00:46:58.000 And sometimes I have to push back against myself.

00:47:00.000 Sometimes I'll say things...

00:47:02.000 So that I can get pushback and see the blind spots.

00:47:05.000 I'm not going to know what my own blind spots are unless I put my opinion out there and hear back from people.

00:47:10.000 Not all of it is great.

00:47:11.000 Some of it's really reasonable criticism that I can take in from people I respect.

00:47:18.000 Even people who maybe I am completely...

00:47:22.000 If someone is not even my friend but they critique something in a respectful way, I'll hear that.

00:47:30.000 I feel like it's necessary to just...

00:47:33.000 I try really hard to be honest.

00:47:36.000 It's not lucrative for me.

00:47:39.000 To be honest?

00:47:40.000 No.

00:47:41.000 There's no money in nuance, kid.

00:47:43.000 I don't think that's true.

00:47:44.000 I think it is ultimately.

00:47:46.000 Yeah.

00:47:46.000 I think ultimately there is a future in that, ultimately.

00:47:52.000 But this is one of the reasons why I'm so steadfast.

00:47:55.000 Today.

00:47:56.000 It's because we're in the most polarized, the most ideologically based time ever in terms of like you have a side, you stick with it, you battle against the other side.

00:48:06.000 And I see this from smart people and it drives me crazy.

00:48:09.000 It drives me crazy because I'm like, I know you're smart because I know you're educated. 1.00

00:48:13.000 I know you know a lot of facts, but you are so fucking stupid about human nature. 1.00

00:48:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:19.000 To behave like this because you're denying the very thing that literally has made us racist, the very thing that's made us go to war, tribalism.

00:48:27.000 Yeah.

00:48:28.000 This is what it is.

00:48:29.000 All of it stems from people who look like me or people who think like me or people from the patch of dirt that I'm from.

00:48:36.000 Those are on my team.

00:48:37.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 We got to stick together and we got to all agree.

00:48:40.000 Yeah.

00:48:41.000 But that's nonsense. 0.50

00:48:42.000 And we know it's nonsense.

00:48:44.000 We know that in 2020 that we don't have to think like that.

00:48:48.000 It's not smart.

00:48:49.000 Yeah.

00:48:50.000 I mean, I think that our founders really understood human nature.

00:48:55.000 And they had this insight, which I still don't know how they managed to have it.

00:49:00.000 Amazing.

00:49:00.000 It's a miracle.

00:49:01.000 Amazing.

00:49:01.000 I mean, Jonah Goldberg wrote this amazing book, Suicide of the West, and he talks about all of this, essentially how the Enlightenment, and we just stumbled on this miracle.

00:49:10.000 And in the end, he has the appendix.

00:49:13.000 I'm like, if anyone in America should read anything, it should just be the appendix of his book, which is all the stats of how much humanity has been lifted out of the dirt.

00:49:23.000 And we've lifted up, even in developing world, everybody's doing...

00:49:28.000 Yeah, there's problems, obviously, but everybody overall...

00:49:31.000 It's never been more convenient and easier for humans to just exist.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:37.000 And I sometimes feel like, is this just humans, because they're not fighting and trying to survive, they're self-destructing and having to create that reality for themselves?

00:49:49.000 Is life just too easy?

00:49:51.000 There's a lot of that.

00:49:52.000 There's a lot of the existential risk, the real risk of humanity up until now has been war, murder.

00:50:00.000 Death.

00:50:01.000 Death, famine.

00:50:02.000 It was so hard to live.

00:50:03.000 So hard.

00:50:04.000 And that was what people concentrated on.

00:50:06.000 But now, because of...

00:50:09.000 I mean, who was discussing this with me the other day?

00:50:12.000 Was it Douglas Murray?

00:50:15.000 Maybe?

00:50:15.000 Or was it...

00:50:18.000 I don't forget who it was.

00:50:19.000 So many guests.

00:50:20.000 Anyway, so many guests.

00:50:21.000 But this is part of the problem with social media.

00:50:24.000 It's like the problems that you have today are big to you because you do not have big problems. 0.98

00:50:29.000 And when you have big problems, if you have someone in your family that you love that's dying or sick, someone calling you a fuckhead on Twitter doesn't mean anything to you. 1.00

00:50:38.000 But when you don't have that, and then you're like, hey, fuck you! 1.00

00:50:41.000 That Twitter comment is the thing that gets you. 1.00

00:50:45.000 And that gets you out of bed, and you check the comments and see, what else did they say?

00:50:49.000 Oh, and I said this.

00:50:50.000 Let's see, I got them now.

00:50:52.000 This is your conflict.

00:50:53.000 This is you with a catapult.

00:50:55.000 It's shadow boxing though.

00:50:56.000 It's crazy because it's like, I know women on the east side in New York who are online all day battling and they're like, I'm so tired.

00:51:05.000 This is so exhausting.

00:51:06.000 I am in so much distress.

00:51:08.000 I mean, it's mental illness.

00:51:10.000 And I'm like, you're doing this to yourself.

00:51:13.000 You are all doing this to yourself.

00:51:15.000 It's not, a lot of the conflict, and I was saying this on Twitter the other day, I'm like, I'll be worried about America when no one can tweet.

00:51:22.000 Like, you're all tweeting, and you're online bitching about something or other.

00:51:26.000 When you have, like you said, when you have somebody, for instance, a cancer diagnosis.

00:51:30.000 Someone in my life recently thought they were diagnosed with cancer, but they weren't.

00:51:34.000 For that 24 hours, you realize that is your life now.

00:51:38.000 Well, that's how I felt at the beginning of COVID. The beginning of the lockdown, I really thought it was going to be like September 11th.

00:51:45.000 Like when September 11th came around, everybody joined up. 0.95

00:51:48.000 We all got together because we all realized like, hey, all this petty bullshit is not important. 0.99

00:51:52.000 What's really important is we got to fucking band together because we're going to run out of toilet paper and food because there's a disease coming that's going to kill everybody. 0.99

00:51:59.000 And then when that didn't happen, it's like it ramped up the other way. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Everybody just got crazier.

00:52:04.000 Hey, it just goes to show you how hilarious it is that people were stocking up on toilet paper.

00:52:09.000 You're like, maybe this...

00:52:10.000 Tom Green had a great point, though.

00:52:12.000 Tom Green's point was, when you go to the supermarket, toilet paper is a light item, but it takes up a lot of space.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 And you only have so much shelf space.

00:52:20.000 And he goes...

00:52:21.000 It was just people seeing other people stockpiling it.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, when they take it, and then it's missing.

00:52:25.000 Dude, I don't have one now.

00:52:26.000 But it's kind of funny.

00:52:27.000 That's not the first thing I would think of. 0.98

00:52:30.000 I've also worked in farms and shit in the woods. 0.99

00:52:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

00:52:36.000 That's not my first thought in the apocalypse.

00:52:38.000 That's what I need to stockpile.

00:52:40.000 I'm like water.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:43.000 It shows you how disconnected we are with real threat.

00:52:45.000 They're like, oh, what am I going to do? 0.94

00:52:46.000 I'm not going to be able to wipe my ass from all this food that I'm binge eating while I'm locked down and Netflixing. 0.96

00:52:52.000 That's not a real crisis, guys. 0.99

00:52:54.000 And drinking constantly.

00:52:56.000 Everybody's drinking went up like some insane...

00:52:58.000 It was like 20% more...

00:53:00.000 While the bars were closed, alcohol consumption rose like 20%.

00:53:04.000 I am on a...

00:53:05.000 I had to...

00:53:06.000 It was hard for me because I'm sober, and I'm on threads with my very Irish Catholic family, and for the first couple weeks, it was just pictures of their booze stockpiles, which I 100% would have done if I was...

00:53:18.000 Back in my drinking days before even water, it would have been booze.

00:53:22.000 Yeah.

00:53:23.000 I mean, my family, I always tell this joker, like, it's something that's just funny in our family.

00:53:28.000 It was, like, police, vicar's liquors, and then fire.

00:53:35.000 Yeah.

00:53:36.000 On the emergency contacts.

00:53:38.000 That's real.

00:53:39.000 My grandmother had that in our growing up.

00:53:41.000 And we're like, oh, let's be real.

00:53:42.000 Fires don't really start until after we drank.

00:53:45.000 Oh, my God.

00:53:46.000 That's so funny.

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:48.000 I think it's just interesting to see.

00:53:51.000 I remember when it first started.

00:53:54.000 I was kind of eerie, like no one was out in LA. And it was rainy.

00:54:00.000 And those first days, I went down to the beach.

00:54:02.000 There was no one on the beach.

00:54:03.000 There was no one even driving.

00:54:05.000 And I walked by this guy.

00:54:06.000 He was kicked back in his sofa.

00:54:08.000 He had his television on.

00:54:09.000 He had a beer.

00:54:10.000 He was on his phone, just with a nice little throw.

00:54:13.000 And I was like, this is apocalypse light.

00:54:15.000 You know?

00:54:16.000 It's not really...

00:54:19.000 I've never seen a more perfect picture of what the modern apocalypse looks like.

00:54:25.000 It's not fighting for...

00:54:26.000 I just remember Katrina when it got really bad down there and people were fighting for food.

00:54:31.000 It got savage really, really quickly in those...

00:54:36.000 I think it was in the Superdome.

00:54:39.000 Have you ever read the book Blindness?

00:54:41.000 No.

00:54:42.000 What?

00:54:42.000 I couldn't read fiction for two years after I read that book.

00:54:46.000 And it's all about a pandemic of blindness hits people and they all get put in quarantine.

00:54:53.000 They get quarantined together, the people who are getting this blindness.

00:54:56.000 And then the wife of the guy who gets, he is like stricken with blindness, she fakes it so she can be with her husband. 0.93

00:55:04.000 And she's witness to all the shit that goes down once all these people are out of society and in this quarantine. 0.98

00:55:11.000 And it's like, Rapes and murders and just how quickly the veneer of society deteriorates. 0.99

00:55:18.000 Who wrote it?

00:55:20.000 Oh God, he won a Pulitzer for it.

00:55:22.000 I'm going to blank on it.

00:55:23.000 Okay.

00:55:26.000 Thank you.

00:55:27.000 He's a great writer.

00:55:28.000 It's amazing.

00:55:30.000 Yeah.

00:55:30.000 So I think that we're, you know, it's pretty under the circumstances.

00:55:35.000 The other thing that I've been kind of surprised about is, like you were saying, there's going to be more armed conflict.

00:55:40.000 I was like, I'm pretty amazed at how restrained people have been.

00:55:44.000 Very amazing.

00:55:45.000 Very amazing.

00:55:46.000 There's like 300 million guns, maybe probably 400 million now in America.

00:55:50.000 More than people.

00:55:50.000 More guns than people.

00:55:52.000 Just a few shootings.

00:55:54.000 They've been pretty restrained.

00:55:55.000 Yeah, pretty restrained.

00:55:56.000 Good job, America. 0.99

00:55:58.000 Especially considering the videos of cops shooting black people. 0.97

00:56:02.000 Especially when you think about how crazy it could have gotten. 0.97

00:56:06.000 There's been some horrific incidents.

00:56:07.000 This is a really bad one.

00:56:09.000 I think it was in Baltimore. 0.98

00:56:09.000 This white guy walking on the street and for no reason this black kid runs up behind him and hits him in the head with a brick. 0.98

00:56:17.000 The guy face plants and the people that are filming it are in a car and they're laughing while the brick hits the guy and the guy face plants on the concrete. 0.51

00:56:24.000 So much violence.

00:56:25.000 But for no reason, right?

00:56:26.000 Yeah.

00:56:27.000 It's crazy.

00:56:28.000 But so little of that comparatively to what it could be.

00:56:34.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 I mean, you know, there's a lot of people that thought a real race war was going to happen in this country.

00:56:39.000 But I think most people, the vast majority of people, are not racist.

00:56:45.000 The vast majority.

00:56:46.000 The vast majority of cops, I think, are not racist.

00:56:49.000 I think the vast majority of people are not violent or evil.

00:56:52.000 The vast majority.

00:56:53.000 That's why you can just go places.

00:56:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:56:56.000 That's why it's not a fucking shooting gallery everywhere you go. 0.99

00:57:00.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:57:00.000 The vast majority of people are not violent or evil. 0.96

00:57:03.000 It's just we have human beings living together in a very imperfect scenario.

00:57:08.000 Yeah.

00:57:09.000 We were talking about this the other day.

00:57:13.000 You don't hear about the planes that land.

00:57:16.000 There are so many people doing so many good things all the time.

00:57:19.000 That's a great point.

00:57:19.000 You don't hear about the planes that land.

00:57:24.000 It's like we focus, and a lot of this I blame on the media.

00:57:29.000 It would be like only focusing on planes that crash.

00:57:33.000 But it's not even the media anymore.

00:57:34.000 A lot of these things are just online videos that go viral.

00:57:38.000 Yeah, yeah, but I think that so much of the division and that picking narratives, they're driving narratives.

00:57:49.000 And I and people are obviously kind of partaking in this but I still think that it's we when I first like you said about the early days of the pandemic I thought the same thing because you would go out and there was you have this kind of like you'd like you have your mask on or whatever you walk and people were out walking because they couldn't go to the gym or anything and there would be that you kind of look at each other with that solidarity there's that feeling of like yeah we're in this yeah And it was only two weeks later before people

00:58:19.000 are crossing the street angrily.

00:58:21.000 I got mass shamed by a guy.

00:58:23.000 We were walking and I had my bandana just around my neck.

00:58:27.000 And he was very far away.

00:58:29.000 And he was like, no mask!

00:58:31.000 No mask!

00:58:32.000 Screaming at us.

00:58:34.000 And I'm like, bright red. 0.99

00:58:35.000 You're a bad person.

00:58:36.000 You don't have a mask on. 1.00

00:58:37.000 But I'm like, dude, you're going to have a heart attack before COVID ever kills you, just yelling at people who don't have masks. 0.97

00:58:44.000 I would have to spit in his mouth for him to get COVID from me.

00:58:47.000 He's not going to get it from me from a block and a half away, just yelling. 0.88

00:58:51.000 And this is where I think people are driving themselves insane.

00:58:55.000 Well, the unhinged have never had a better time.

00:58:57.000 This is their time because they have so much company.

00:59:01.000 If you're an unhinged person, you're on Team Unhinged.

00:59:04.000 You're like, oh, look at all the people on my side. 1.00

00:59:06.000 Weren't you the one who had that tweet that was like, we have a mental health problem.

00:59:11.000 Something about guns and mental health.

00:59:13.000 We have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised as a security problem. 0.61

00:59:18.000 Yeah, that's a great tweet.

00:59:20.000 I think about that all the time because, man, has that played out.

00:59:23.000 Because now we're just seeing the mental health and the tyranny.

00:59:26.000 Yeah.

00:59:26.000 Well, we legitimately have a gigantic mental health problem in this country.

00:59:31.000 Look, I'm a person who...

00:59:33.000 I've done a lot of things.

00:59:36.000 I have a family.

00:59:37.000 I'm happy.

00:59:38.000 I have good friends.

00:59:39.000 I'm successful.

00:59:40.000 And I have mental health problems.

00:59:42.000 Yeah. 0.67

00:59:42.000 We all have mental health problems. 0.67

00:59:43.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 And my mental health problems are very minor.

00:59:46.000 I just want to be real clear.

00:59:47.000 They're very minor.

00:59:48.000 But...

00:59:49.000 I get weirded out sometimes.

00:59:50.000 We all do.

00:59:51.000 We all get in funk sometimes.

00:59:52.000 We all have issues.

00:59:54.000 We all have issues.

00:59:55.000 But when something challenges us and we don't have character and we don't have a history of overcoming issues and we don't have tools in terms of like whether it's exercise or meditation or yoga or whatever you do to alleviate tension. 0.94

01:00:09.000 And then you have the fucking gasoline, which is social media.

01:00:13.000 And you're throwing gasoline on your fire instead of figuring out a way to put out the coals. 1.00

01:00:18.000 You're just going to have madness.

01:00:19.000 And there's so many people that are unhinged right now.

01:00:23.000 Unhinged.

01:00:24.000 And they've been alone and isolated.

01:00:25.000 And it just shows how much you need that social interaction.

01:00:30.000 Yes.

01:00:30.000 Because people, I feel like, are losing their manners.

01:00:33.000 I've heard from many people, and my sister texted me, she said, I just saw a real-life Facebook fight at dinner.

01:00:40.000 And it was like, and someone else texted me, and he said, I just saw a real-life Twitter interaction in the grocery store.

01:00:47.000 So this behavior that generally is relegated to the way we are when we're anonymous or not anonymous online with each other that you would never necessarily be if you were face-to-face, Because everybody's been online, it's like they're starting to behave that way in real life.

01:01:03.000 That's not good.

01:01:04.000 Well, that's what everybody was afraid of when it comes to video games.

01:01:08.000 People were afraid that violent video games were forcing people or were going to cause people to be violent in real life.

01:01:14.000 I don't think that's real.

01:01:15.000 I think they've done studies that that's not real.

01:01:18.000 They've never proven that.

01:01:19.000 I think there's actually violence that's gone down.

01:01:22.000 Yes, I think it's the opposite.

01:01:24.000 But I think that there's something about the way human beings are just interacting with other human beings.

01:01:30.000 Those video games, you're not shooting a real person.

01:01:32.000 You're shooting an avatar.

01:01:34.000 You're shooting a thing, and it's fun.

01:01:36.000 The thing about interaction with people is you're really hurting someone's feelings.

01:01:40.000 And then you get used to doing that.

01:01:42.000 And then you're not around people a lot.

01:01:44.000 Most of your interactions are just this way.

01:01:47.000 And then when you are around people, you behave in the same way that you would if people were in front of you.

01:01:52.000 I mean, I think about how many mental health tools I need.

01:01:58.000 I'm like you, I have mental health problems.

01:02:01.000 I've had anxiety in my past.

01:02:03.000 I had debilitating hypochondria that I overcame.

01:02:06.000 How'd you overcome it?

01:02:07.000 Man, I should really write a book about it. 1.00

01:02:10.000 I should write, kill your hypochondria before it kills you. 1.00

01:02:13.000 Because it was debilitating. 1.00

01:02:15.000 That's a good title.

01:02:16.000 Solid title.

01:02:17.000 It was debilitating.

01:02:19.000 Most people don't get past that.

01:02:20.000 My therapist was like, how did you do this?

01:02:23.000 But it was basically, I took, okay, so it was kind of a three-pronged attack because I'm like, I can't live like this.

01:02:31.000 Because hypochondria truly makes you feel insane.

01:02:35.000 And you know, you can objectively know I'm crazy, but your mind gets stuck.

01:02:40.000 It's like OCD. And so it's kind of based in OCD because you get stuck in a loop.

01:02:46.000 Like I would just get stuck in a loop.

01:02:48.000 For instance, like there's something wrong with my lip.

01:02:51.000 There's something wrong with my lip.

01:02:52.000 There's something wrong with my lip.

01:02:53.000 There's something wrong with my lip.

01:02:54.000 I don't know.

01:02:55.000 I would just get stuck in that loop.

01:02:57.000 I have throat cancer.

01:02:58.000 I have throat cancer.

01:02:59.000 I would just be stuck in this crazy loop.

01:03:02.000 It's insane.

01:03:03.000 Did it come slowly?

01:03:05.000 It got worse.

01:03:07.000 Did you always have it?

01:03:08.000 No.

01:03:09.000 I think I come from a long line of hypochondriacs now.

01:03:13.000 My mom used to have... 1.00

01:03:14.000 Do you remember those books before the internet where it was like, if you have this...

01:03:18.000 It was like a choose your own adventure, but it was like, if you have this symptom...

01:03:22.000 Before the internet, there were these books where you'd be like, if you have this symptom, go to page 233. And if you have this...

01:03:28.000 And I remember my mom would use those quite a lot.

01:03:31.000 So I think she has some of it.

01:03:34.000 My dad is just a big worrywart.

01:03:36.000 So I have that kind of neurotic energy, I believe.

01:03:40.000 But I think, too, I was smoking a lot of weed.

01:03:44.000 And I mostly got it when I was hungover.

01:03:47.000 Like, that's when it would be the worst, is I would be hungover.

01:03:50.000 So anyway...

01:03:51.000 Probably because you were realizing what you did to your body.

01:03:53.000 I think I just had, I had to attack it from three different places. 1.00

01:03:59.000 So the first is the actual, I was like, alright, I'm going to rewire my fucking brain. 0.98

01:04:05.000 And I I set myself out to do this. 0.92

01:04:08.000 And I put a rubber band on and I did that stupid thing, but it totally worked where if I was like, there's something wrong with my lip and I'd snap my rubber band and I'd be like, I'm healthy. 0.68

01:04:18.000 I would just replace it with I am healthy.

01:04:20.000 How did you come up with that idea?

01:04:22.000 I read somewhere that it's a good way to help with repetitive thoughts or to just help yourself.

01:04:28.000 I mean, I was training my dog at the same time, too, and I was like, this is kind of like dog training.

01:04:34.000 I just have to interrupt that.

01:04:36.000 That's hilarious!

01:04:37.000 That firing.

01:04:38.000 And there's that whole idea of what fires together, wires.

01:04:41.000 It's not even an idea.

01:04:42.000 It's like what fires together, wires together.

01:04:43.000 So every time...

01:04:45.000 The other thing I had to do was be...

01:04:46.000 Explain that?

01:04:47.000 What fires together, wires together.

01:04:49.000 So it's this concept of whatever you're kind of thinking...

01:04:54.000 And acting on, it just creates like a pathway, a neural pathway in your brain that gets stronger and stronger.

01:05:02.000 If it's like the, like for instance, so this is why part two was replacing the thought, but I also couldn't act on it.

01:05:12.000 So I couldn't go look in the mirror.

01:05:13.000 I couldn't go Google anything if I thought I had cancer.

01:05:16.000 I had to cut myself off from acting on, because a lot of people who have hypochondria, they'll obsessively Google it.

01:05:23.000 They'll go get tested for everything.

01:05:25.000 They'll spend thousands of dollars getting tests.

01:05:28.000 Luckily, I didn't have insurance.

01:05:30.000 I was too poor to really lean fully into my hypochondria that way.

01:05:35.000 And I just had to stop myself from the action because anytime you have a thought and you act on it, it reinforces that connection, that mind-body connection, and it would reinforce that pattern of worrying.

01:05:49.000 And then I had to start observing.

01:05:51.000 I kept, this is very, I guess too, it's very like CBT, so cognitive behavioral therapy.

01:05:57.000 I didn't know this is kind of what I was doing, but I would keep, now they have very, it's like you keep a record, what they call a thought log.

01:06:05.000 And I would just document when I had the thought, what brought it up, like what triggered that thought, because there's always kind of a trigger, and then what action I took and what action I could take to replace it.

01:06:17.000 And so I, sometimes it's just not acting on it at all.

01:06:20.000 And then I started working with therapists on all the things that were underpinning those, the triggering thoughts.

01:06:29.000 So one was like I couldn't hold joy.

01:06:32.000 I just, anytime I felt like I was excited about doing anything, I was going to Hawaii, that was when I was like perseverating on my lips. 0.98

01:06:38.000 And I couldn't, it was like I could not enjoy anything without my brain telling me that everything was going to shit and I was gonna die. 0.95

01:06:46.000 So I had to look at that. 0.99

01:06:48.000 Where does that come from?

01:06:49.000 Feelings of worthlessness, upbringing, whatever.

01:06:53.000 Then the other one was shame around sexuality.

01:06:56.000 There was just a lot of shame around...

01:06:59.000 I was pretty promiscuous when I was drinking a lot, and I wasn't always proud of the men I woke up with.

01:07:07.000 It happens to the party girls. 0.99

01:07:11.000 You know, I was an international slut. 1.00

01:07:17.000 I'm Catholic too, raised Catholic, so that shit got squirted in before I had a chance in hell. 1.00

01:07:23.000 And so there's lots of shame around that that I had to really look at and deal with. 0.99

01:07:28.000 And yeah, so I just started looking at all this stuff and I like, it took me, it was work.

01:07:34.000 It was freaking work.

01:07:35.000 And now I'm like completely free of it.

01:07:38.000 That's amazing.

01:07:38.000 Yeah.

01:07:39.000 That's amazing you did that.

01:07:40.000 Congratulations.

01:07:41.000 I mean, I definitely, I feel like I can live and breathe and I can just be present.

01:07:46.000 Meditation was big.

01:07:47.000 And then, I think a lot of people forget that, you know, drinking and substances are not a coping mechanism.

01:07:53.000 They can be if you are not using them addictively.

01:07:57.000 But for many people, like drinking is, they'll be like, I have a coping tool, it's drinking.

01:08:02.000 I'm like, that's not a coping tool.

01:08:04.000 It exacerbates it.

01:08:05.000 It does.

01:08:06.000 Whether you like it or not. 0.97

01:08:07.000 So I had to quit that and I was joking just like how many fucking things I need to do to start my day. 0.94

01:08:13.000 I'm like, I wake up, I meditate, I have to like, you know, I have to work out or I'm a crazy person. 0.97

01:08:18.000 I've got to sweat.

01:08:20.000 I just know what I have to do.

01:08:21.000 And people, it's important, I think instead of, and people ask me all the time how I deal with the online hate and all that.

01:08:28.000 I'm like, just go work out.

01:08:31.000 That's my answer to everything.

01:08:33.000 Yeah, that's an answer people don't want to hear though because it requires effort.

01:08:36.000 And it requires, like, as much as it's difficult when you're sitting down in front of a computer to overcome procrastination and write, multiply that times 10 and it's getting to the gym.

01:08:47.000 Because the physical discomfort of, you're like, oh... 1.00

01:08:50.000 Your brain will mindfuck you. 1.00

01:08:53.000 That's why I have mugs and t-shirts that say, conquer your inner bitch. 1.00

01:09:00.000 I love that. 0.99

01:09:01.000 That's what it is.

01:09:02.000 There's a thing.

01:09:03.000 It's in me.

01:09:04.000 I was talking to David Goggins.

01:09:06.000 Who's one of the most savage people that's on the planet today.

01:09:09.000 And he and I had a long, hilarious conversation on the phone yesterday about it.

01:09:13.000 And I said, one of the things that I really appreciate about you is you talk about your struggles.

01:09:17.000 Like, there's a video that I put up on my Instagram the other day.

01:09:20.000 I just wrote, stay hard, and it's his video.

01:09:22.000 And it's him talking about this struggle that he has.

01:09:25.000 David Goggins, one of the hardest men alive, he has this struggle sometimes when he gets up, he just starts feeling sorry for himself.

01:09:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:31.000 He starts feeling like, just like, fuck, I'm tired. 0.99

01:09:34.000 I don't want to do this. 0.99

01:09:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:09:35.000 And then he actually says, he said those thoughts into a tape recorder or a phone or whatever the fuck it is and then listened to it play back. 0.98

01:09:43.000 And he's like, I sounded like a straight bitch! 1.00

01:09:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:46.000 That's hilarious.

01:09:48.000 But he realized it.

01:09:49.000 And then he got fired up and went out and did it.

01:09:52.000 But what I said to him is what's so important about him and why he's so important to people is because he shows you the weakness.

01:10:00.000 He shows you that he has these thoughts himself, but he just always wins.

01:10:04.000 He overcomes those.

01:10:06.000 But he knows that those demons are there.

01:10:08.000 They're there for everybody.

01:10:09.000 But he's just got a long history of overcoming those demons.

01:10:13.000 And so he knows that he just has to go to work.

01:10:15.000 It's the warrior ethos.

01:10:17.000 It's something I've really always tried to develop in myself and I respect in other people.

01:10:23.000 And I think that you don't have to be a literal warrior to develop that ethos.

01:10:29.000 And it's something that used to be so respected and Sparta and...

01:10:33.000 There are just so many... 0.96

01:10:34.000 That was something that was revered, and I feel like in our society now, because victimhood has become currency, no warrior in the fucking world would ever want to be considered a victim. 0.99

01:10:45.000 They will die on their own sword. 0.98

01:10:48.000 Yeah.

01:10:48.000 And it's important that I think people like David and you and just to really embrace that spirit and try and promote it because ultimately it feels better to work against your worst instincts.

01:11:05.000 It does.

01:11:05.000 It just, it might be harder, but it feels, at the end, it feels so good.

01:11:09.000 You don't have to do a lot.

01:11:11.000 This is the other thing that I love about, there's this great book, Tiny Habits, and it's all about bundling habits and how you don't have to start every day and say, I'm going to start working out every day an hour.

01:11:20.000 No, you're probably going to fail.

01:11:22.000 Just start doing 10 minutes, and then you might do more.

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:26.000 And then bundle it with one minute of meditation and just start little increments and just be consistent, you know?

01:11:33.000 That's great advice.

01:11:34.000 That's great advice.

01:11:35.000 Because it really is about building healthy habits, not so much, it's just, my friend said to me, it's more habits, less goals.

01:11:47.000 Because we're so goal-oriented, and goals are good to work towards, but you're not going to get there without healthy, consistent habits. 0.94

01:11:57.000 Discipline is fucking hard. 0.98

01:11:58.000 It is fucking hard. 0.99

01:11:59.000 It's hard to be disciplined. 1.00

01:12:01.000 It is hard.

01:12:01.000 And the victim mentality, one of the reasons why I reject it so heavily is because it's completely contrary to comedy.

01:12:08.000 If everyone is a victim and you can't have any victims ever, well then you can't have any jokes.

01:12:14.000 No.

01:12:15.000 Because you're making fun of things that are preposterous.

01:12:17.000 And as soon as you can't make fun of things that are preposterous, Like, we were talking before about this Vice thing that was written about transphobic episodes of this podcast, and one of the things that they wrote was that I incorrectly described how Caitlyn Jenner transitioned,

01:12:36.000 or why Caitlyn Jenner transitioned. 0.92

01:12:38.000 I'm like, oh, you mean...

01:12:39.000 Chris Jenner isn't really a demon that hovers over his bed and whispers in his ear and converted him to a woman. 1.00

01:12:47.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

01:12:49.000 This kind of nonsense is like... 1.00

01:12:53.000 And I know Caitlyn Jenner got mad at me.

01:12:55.000 I was only just recounting an old joke from 2016. Yeah.

01:12:58.000 I got no hate for that person.

01:13:00.000 No, no.

01:13:00.000 And I'm sorry if I said the wrong name.

01:13:02.000 I don't have any hate.

01:13:03.000 Yeah.

01:13:04.000 We are making big deals out of things that aren't big deals.

01:13:08.000 And we're turning jokes into literal statements that is hate speech. 1.00

01:13:14.000 That shit is nonsense. 1.00

01:13:16.000 And you know it's nonsense. 1.00

01:13:17.000 And you know it's nonsense.

01:13:19.000 We were driving yesterday and there was a Planned Parenthood above a Mexican place that we drove by.

01:13:27.000 And I was like, pfft, okay. 0.91

01:13:30.000 Imagine you're going in and they're like, you're killing babies!

01:13:34.000 And it's like, I just wanted to get a margarita.

01:13:37.000 And we were making all these jokes and I was like, God, it feels so good to just be able to joke freely because I feel like the world has become just a floor of eggshells and everyone's walking on eggshells all the time.

01:13:51.000 Can I say this?

01:13:52.000 Can I say this?

01:13:52.000 Because many people are dealing with mental illness and that's what it's like when you're dealing with Mentally ill people are constantly walking on eggshells.

01:14:01.000 But I always say to comedians, I'm like, don't die on the content of the joke.

01:14:08.000 Die on the right to be hyperbolic.

01:14:10.000 Yes. 0.86

01:14:11.000 Because that's what they're coming after.

01:14:12.000 Exactly.

01:14:13.000 They'll come after that.

01:14:14.000 I'm like, don't fight about the content of the joke.

01:14:17.000 Just fight for your right to be a hyperbolic comedian.

01:14:20.000 Because if we have that, we have nothing. 0.99

01:14:23.000 We have to be ridiculous. 1.00

01:14:24.000 We're fucking clowns. 1.00

01:14:25.000 Well, look at Joey Diaz. 1.00

01:14:27.000 He's the best example, and in my opinion, the funniest guy I've ever seen.

01:14:31.000 Everything he says is so over the top, but that's part of why you laugh.

01:14:36.000 You know he's not being honest.

01:14:39.000 He's making you laugh.

01:14:41.000 He's doing comedy.

01:14:42.000 And he's doing it by grossly, ridiculously exaggerating something so crazy.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, that's why I get mad when comedians are like, you who are... 0.99

01:14:54.000 Shitting on other comedians, when I see other comedians going after other comedians for their jokes, I'm like, what the fuck is happening here? 0.99

01:15:00.000 Well, they're always bad. 1.00

01:15:02.000 Here's the thing.

01:15:03.000 This is the fact.

01:15:04.000 The comedians that go after comedians for jokes, they're always mediocre.

01:15:09.000 I'm not trying to be mean.

01:15:11.000 No.

01:15:11.000 And I'm not always, as a generalization, it's the tool of the comic.

01:15:14.000 It's not always.

01:15:14.000 Some of them are good comics that do it erroneously.

01:15:17.000 But the thing that they're doing, they're doing because there's a feeling inside you that always feels bad that you don't reach the high marks.

01:15:26.000 There's like a thing where you don't quite, and then you see someone step out of line.

01:15:31.000 Maybe misstep. 0.99

01:15:33.000 Maybe they fuck up.

01:15:34.000 Maybe they make a joke and it doesn't work. 1.00

01:15:36.000 And you want to attack them.

01:15:38.000 Patrice O'Neill said it best.

01:15:40.000 And he said, when someone tells a joke that kills or someone says a joke that offends people and doesn't work, it all comes in the same place.

01:15:49.000 And that place is you're trying to be funny.

01:15:51.000 That's what you're trying to do.

01:15:52.000 You're not trying to be mean.

01:15:54.000 I remember particularly the early days of my stand-up comedy when I was terrible.

01:16:02.000 I would just say anything to get a laugh.

01:16:05.000 Anything.

01:16:05.000 And I didn't have to believe it at all.

01:16:07.000 I literally didn't have to mean it.

01:16:10.000 If I knew it would work, and I treated comedy jokes like hammers.

01:16:14.000 It was like a hammer.

01:16:15.000 I'm just looking for a nail.

01:16:16.000 Like, does that work?

01:16:17.000 No, does that work?

01:16:18.000 I was lost in the woods.

01:16:19.000 I had a blindfold and I was feeling for trees.

01:16:22.000 Yeah, everybody though.

01:16:23.000 That's what I did.

01:16:24.000 And then after a while, I realized, okay, well, some of these, I have to think they're funny.

01:16:30.000 And then it works better.

01:16:32.000 And then I just had to figure out who I was.

01:16:35.000 I got into comedy with very little real social life.

01:16:39.000 When I was 21, when I got into comedy, I'd only been fighting.

01:16:42.000 I didn't have a normal childhood.

01:16:44.000 Right.

01:16:44.000 Like, my child from 15 to 21 was all kicking people in the face and getting kicked.

01:16:50.000 Like, that was my whole life. 0.99

01:16:52.000 So my whole sense of, like, what the world was was all fucked up. 0.74

01:16:56.000 So I had to develop opinions on things. 0.88

01:16:58.000 I had zero opinions on politics or weddings or anything.

01:17:03.000 So all I talked about for, like, the first year of comedy was sex.

01:17:07.000 Yeah.

01:17:07.000 That was my whole act.

01:17:08.000 That's common.

01:17:08.000 But that's all I had.

01:17:09.000 Yeah.

01:17:10.000 That's pretty common, especially when you're 21. Exactly.

01:17:13.000 What other life experience do you have?

01:17:16.000 And by the way, thank God that's what you did.

01:17:18.000 Yeah.

01:17:18.000 Because do you ever wonder where you would be if you were that age now?

01:17:23.000 Oh my God.

01:17:24.000 You'd be out in the streets.

01:17:26.000 I would have a real problem.

01:17:27.000 You'd be at an Antifa.

01:17:30.000 I don't know what I would do.

01:17:31.000 But the point is like...

01:17:34.000 When I would tell a joke outside of sex, I really didn't know what was funny.

01:17:39.000 I knew certain things were funny with sex, so I had those jokes.

01:17:44.000 But if I would tell a joke about something else, I was just swinging at the wind.

01:17:48.000 I love the process of finding what's funny, though.

01:17:51.000 Even though it's uncomfortable and awkward, I was trying to get this bit where I was talking about how my dad sat me down to have an awkward conversation about freezing my eggs.

01:18:01.000 And I was like...

01:18:03.000 Too old.

01:18:04.000 I was like 37. I was like, Dad, isn't this like asking me if I want to freeze the chicken like seven days after it's been in the fridge?

01:18:12.000 You know, you're probably not going to unfreeze that chicken.

01:18:14.000 It just seems like too...

01:18:16.000 It's like past its prime already.

01:18:19.000 I feel like maybe you should have had this conversation with me when I was like 30, not 37. It just seems so...

01:18:25.000 And he's like, I didn't realize you had a whole chicken metaphor worked out.

01:18:28.000 He's like all...

01:18:30.000 And so I was trying to do this and all I kept getting was like, aww, from the audience.

01:18:34.000 And I hate the pity.

01:18:35.000 I'm like, I'm up here talking about, it's fine.

01:18:37.000 You don't have to feel bad for me, but that's my job as a comedian to be like, okay, why is everyone feeling sorry for me? 0.99

01:18:43.000 There's a lot of gals out there freezing eggs and I just want to put my hands on their shoulder and go, keep those fucking eggs frozen. 1.00

01:18:49.000 Just keep the eggs frozen. 1.00

01:18:51.000 Stop.

01:18:51.000 Do you know that 99% of eggs don't get used?

01:18:55.000 I'm sure.

01:18:55.000 It's something crazy.

01:18:56.000 I could be wrong, but it's a crazy high percentage of eggs that don't get used.

01:19:02.000 Listen, you don't have to have kids.

01:19:04.000 It's expensive.

01:19:05.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:19:06.000 Kids are expensive, but freezing your eggs is fucking expensive. 0.98

01:19:09.000 Oh, I'm sure it's expensive. 0.98

01:19:09.000 And you have to store them. 0.98

01:19:10.000 You've got to pay a freaking storage fee. 0.54

01:19:12.000 Listen, having kids is awesome. 0.94

01:19:14.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:19:15.000 Yeah.

01:19:15.000 But you don't have to have kids.

01:19:16.000 Yeah.

01:19:17.000 This idea that the path that everybody takes is the path you have to have.

01:19:20.000 There's something about it that used to infuriate me when I was younger, where people with children would tell you you have to have a child.

01:19:28.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 That feels like a prisoner telling me that I need to commit a crime.

01:19:31.000 Yes.

01:19:32.000 Like, come with us.

01:19:34.000 You don't have to.

01:19:35.000 No.

01:19:35.000 No, you don't have to.

01:19:36.000 Look, I don't...

01:19:37.000 I don't have a steadfast rule for anything involving human beings and their path in life as long as they're doing no harm.

01:19:46.000 I think as soon as someone does, I always feel like they're trying to justify their own path.

01:19:51.000 How many people who do certain things want you to do those things as well?

01:19:55.000 Yeah.

01:19:55.000 I appreciate the honest parents.

01:19:57.000 My sister is like, don't have kids. 1.00

01:20:00.000 And she's kidding.

01:20:02.000 And it's another one of those things that, in my instance, it was less about having a kid and more about having a family.

01:20:12.000 And I had never, at that point, met a man that I wanted to really have a family with, and that was important to me.

01:20:19.000 I know it's crazy, wanting a man in my life and all.

01:20:23.000 Can I get canceled for that one? 0.99

01:20:27.000 And so it just, it hadn't, you know, I'm very, and then I was, I hit 40, and I was like, ah, shit. 0.98

01:20:34.000 Am I gonna regret this? 0.93

01:20:36.000 Is it something that, you know, I'm more worried about looking back and being like, I should've, but I just, You could always adopt.

01:20:42.000 I could always adopt.

01:20:43.000 There's so many kids who need good parents and I feel so, I am truly like that woo kind of hippie chick who's like, I'm right where I should be.

01:20:52.000 I have to believe.

01:20:54.000 But you are.

01:20:55.000 You are right where you should be.

01:20:57.000 You're right, considering especially your past, you are right where you should be.

01:21:00.000 Yeah, and considering, I mean, even just this whole trip to Texas has been so informative because I went to go, I went through the process of looking at houses just to see, found out all this stuff, but really I was like, oh, I can buy a house.

01:21:16.000 That was an amazing moment for me because I went bankrupt when I was 26 and I have worked really hard to, I had to like repair my credit.

01:21:26.000 I had to get a little baby $300 a month card that I paid off in full and you know I had to focus on that shit and I feel it was a nice moment to be like okay alright I can see the path forward and so many times in my life When I thought I wanted something,

01:21:44.000 I really wanted to write for Maxim when I was 23. I recently found the proposal. 0.97

01:21:48.000 It's hilarious.

01:21:49.000 But I was like, yeah, I was such a boy's girl.

01:21:56.000 I moved a lot, and the guys were always nice to me, and they always let me in their clubs. 0.94

01:22:00.000 So I was at poker nights and bachelorette parties and all that shit where women generally weren't allowed. 1.00

01:22:06.000 And I had access to just the male brain, and they felt comfortable being their disgusting selves around me, and I didn't judge them for it. 0.98

01:22:17.000 So I was like, I need to write for Maxim.

01:22:19.000 I get these dudes. 0.51

01:22:20.000 I want to write sex advice.

01:22:22.000 And I never really got that column.

01:22:24.000 I didn't know anybody...

01:22:27.000 I was living in a small town.

01:22:29.000 I was talking to Colin about this today.

01:22:31.000 I was like, I was so delusional.

01:22:32.000 I was waiting tables, and I was like the town drunk telling people when I was serving them french fries, like, remember my name.

01:22:40.000 Did you really? 0.98

01:22:42.000 I'm going to be fucking huge. 0.99

01:22:44.000 I'm going to be huge one day. 0.99

01:22:46.000 They're like, can you get me coleslaw instead of fries, young lady? 0.94

01:22:50.000 What are you talking about?

01:22:51.000 I'm pretty sure I saw you peeing in the alley the other night.

01:22:55.000 That's why you got to forgive people when they're young.

01:22:57.000 Yeah.

01:22:57.000 When you see someone acting really ridiculous when they're young, don't write them off forever.

01:23:02.000 Yeah.

01:23:03.000 I mean, it's been a lot.

01:23:03.000 Take a bounce back.

01:23:04.000 The story, I think about the long fucking road that has been to even, and so I didn't get that, but then I ended up writing for Playboy, which was even better.

01:23:14.000 It was on the internet, you know, and I wanted to write for Maxim. 0.65

01:23:17.000 We only had magazines, and it was much bigger than I could have imagined, but in the same space.

01:23:24.000 And so, you know, there might be another better thing.

01:23:28.000 Yeah.

01:23:28.000 Like rejection, I love that phrase, rejection is God's protection.

01:23:33.000 I love that.

01:23:35.000 And my therapist always says...

01:23:37.000 God's protection.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, it's like you being rejected by a man or a woman or somebody...

01:23:43.000 Or a life opportunity. 1.00

01:23:45.000 It's just because there's something better or you're a jerk. 1.00

01:23:52.000 Well, I've always felt like it just means whatever it is, whether you're rejected for a job or either you're not good enough or the system's fucked. 1.00

01:24:03.000 Oh, see, I mean, maybe.

01:24:06.000 One of those things is, well, there's a lot of people that get jobs that do not deserve them, and people that do deserve those jobs don't get them.

01:24:11.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:24:11.000 Because of cronyism, nepotism, there's a lot of fuckery that goes on with it, but that's okay, too.

01:24:18.000 But... 0.95

01:24:19.000 A lot of times it's a wake-up call.

01:24:21.000 There's a lot of people, like when you were telling people, remember my name, there's a lot of people that really believe there's something that they're not.

01:24:27.000 And the only way to find out that you are not that person is to be defeated.

01:24:31.000 And that's one of the reasons why I think martial arts is so important for men.

01:24:34.000 Because men have it in their head, this ridiculous idea that there's something that they're not. 0.83

01:24:38.000 And the best way to find out that you are something that you're not is to get squashed. 0.94

01:24:43.000 So you get squashed a lot.

01:24:45.000 I've eaten a lot of humble pie. 0.99

01:24:47.000 Well, anyone who gets good at jiu-jitsu has been fucking manhandled for a long time. 0.76

01:24:53.000 And to reach a black belt in jiu-jitsu, or even a purple belt, which is what Andrew Yang thinks every police officer should be, and I think so too. 0.88

01:25:00.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

01:25:01.000 You get your fucking ass handed to you for years. 1.00

01:25:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:05.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 I mean, I can think.

01:25:06.000 I can close my eyes.

01:25:08.000 Just think all the time, like, strangled, tapped.

01:25:10.000 I tapped.

01:25:10.000 Ah, tap.

01:25:11.000 Tap on my leg.

01:25:12.000 Ah, tap. 0.52

01:25:13.000 It's just like you lose all the time.

01:25:16.000 Most men don't have enough opportunities in life to lose.

01:25:20.000 Losing is very important.

01:25:22.000 It is important.

01:25:22.000 Failing and losing are so huge.

01:25:24.000 They're so important.

01:25:25.000 And we live in a culture that doesn't really...

01:25:28.000 It's obviously very success-driven and everybody...

01:25:33.000 And you see the 10 years to become an overnight success or whatever.

01:25:38.000 I'm like...

01:25:39.000 I ate so much.

01:25:41.000 I was telling this story today with Colin just about how I was so delusional and I went bankrupt.

01:25:47.000 I started Phetasy.com because it was greeting cards and t-shirts.

01:25:53.000 I had this great idea and then I had no business acumen and I drove around America Highest gas prices ever in America, I think, to this day for six months.

01:26:03.000 And I was like selling t-shirts on the beach, telling people like, yo, remember this?

01:26:07.000 They're like, it's spring break.

01:26:08.000 I'm not going to remember anything.

01:26:10.000 Yeah, I was just delusional.

01:26:12.000 And I would just...

01:26:15.000 I came out here and then...

01:26:17.000 My cousin, who's my partner on a lot of stuff, I'm like, you know what?

01:26:21.000 We can turn this company around.

01:26:22.000 I was like on the verge of bankruptcy.

01:26:24.000 I'm like, we're going to go to Costco and we're going to get some whiteboards.

01:26:28.000 And we got $600 worth of stuff.

01:26:31.000 And two cards.

01:26:32.000 I was maxed out on my credit cards.

01:26:34.000 I go to pay with my credit card and they're like, we don't take credit cards because Costco, they only take like that one kind American Express or I think it's changed now, Visa or something.

01:26:42.000 So they only took one and they wouldn't take it.

01:26:44.000 And then we just had to like abandon...

01:26:47.000 Why did I think that dry erase boards was the thing that I needed in that moment, spending $600?

01:26:54.000 And I do tell young people who come to me for advice, I'm like, you have to kind of be a little delusional in a creative path in particular, because The difference between delusions and dreams is hard work.

01:27:13.000 You're delusional if you're sitting in your mom's basement and you're like, I'm going to do this and you're never doing anything.

01:27:19.000 But you do need a little bit of overachieving delusion to kind of push yourself...

01:27:26.000 You could call it that.

01:27:27.000 I would just call it ambition.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, but...

01:27:30.000 Ambition and a trust in the process.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:33.000 If you're a comedian, you're terrible, right?

01:27:36.000 But you think... 0.66

01:27:37.000 I know a lot of terrible comedians who have been hugely successful, so...

01:27:43.000 As terrible comedians.

01:27:44.000 I might attribute that. 0.94

01:27:45.000 A few of those are joke thieves.

01:27:46.000 But a lot of them, they start out bad, but they have these moments where they get laughs.

01:27:53.000 If you could figure out what happened there and then take those embers and blow on them and use it and figure out how to recreate that and then figure out how to get better at it, it can be done.

01:28:04.000 But you also have to be ruthlessly introspective.

01:28:08.000 And that is a thing that most people are not willing to do.

01:28:12.000 Most people want to protect themselves from their failures and they want to pretend that it was other people's fault or people were plotting against them or, you know, how come it always happens to them or he gets all the breaks and all these... 0.54

01:28:24.000 All that shit does you zero good and just pushes people away from you.

01:28:28.000 It creates the exact opposite amount of... 1.00

01:28:32.000 The exact opposite kind of energy that you need to be successful.

01:28:35.000 What you need to be successful is pain.

01:28:38.000 Yeah.

01:28:39.000 All my best growth moments in comedy came after I bombed.

01:28:43.000 Like embarrassing, horrific bombings. 0.96

01:28:47.000 Those are when I got my shit together and I got better. 0.96

01:28:50.000 And I go, oh my god, I can't do that again. 0.98

01:28:52.000 And then I got better.

01:28:53.000 There's been a series.

01:28:55.000 There's big ones in my life where I was like, it was the worst feelings I've ever had.

01:29:01.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:29:02.000 I've had losses in fights.

01:29:05.000 Losses feel bad.

01:29:06.000 I get PTSD just talking about bombings from some of the bombings. 0.99

01:29:10.000 Bombing's worse than getting your ass kicked is what I'm trying to say. 1.00

01:29:13.000 Bombing feels worse than getting your ass kicked. 1.00

01:29:15.000 It really does. 0.99

01:29:16.000 I had one at the comedy store that I still remember like it was yesterday.

01:29:20.000 It was a monumental, a guy that I was kind of having an affair with actually.

01:29:28.000 He was there with his friends, which is even worse.

01:29:31.000 I would have rather it had been a thousand strangers.

01:29:34.000 And they kept pushing me and pushing me because I'm nobody.

01:29:38.000 And I just kept drinking and drinking and drinking.

01:29:41.000 And I got on stage and I was like, I'm cold and afraid.

01:29:45.000 And that was it.

01:29:45.000 And then I blanked.

01:29:46.000 I couldn't remember anything.

01:29:48.000 It was...

01:29:50.000 It was horrific.

01:29:52.000 You know, you feel me.

01:29:54.000 It was horrific.

01:29:55.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:29:55.000 I can't watch open mic nights.

01:29:58.000 I can't.

01:29:59.000 One of the reasons why I take great comedians on the road with me, I always take funny people because there's nothing...

01:30:07.000 Weirder to me than watching someone who's not funny and then thinking I can go be funny.

01:30:11.000 I feel like nothing's funny. 0.98

01:30:14.000 If I see someone eat shit, I'm like, oh my god, comedy doesn't work. 0.99

01:30:17.000 There's no comedy. 1.00

01:30:18.000 It's not real.

01:30:19.000 This can't be done.

01:30:20.000 It can't be done.

01:30:21.000 This person's bombing.

01:30:22.000 Nothing is funny.

01:30:23.000 Nothing they're saying makes me think, oh yeah, I know it's funny.

01:30:26.000 And then if you go on after someone who bombs, who's terrible, you have to kind of reintroduce the idea of things being funny.

01:30:32.000 Yeah.

01:30:32.000 Like, it's a lot more work.

01:30:34.000 Yeah.

01:30:34.000 This actually happened to me in a situation that I had no business being in, which was often the case with stand-up.

01:30:42.000 And it was...

01:30:43.000 They had made some deal where Bill Burr was performing, who's a god.

01:30:49.000 And then there was just a bunch of nobodies who they had arranged that would kind of just open for him, basically, so that he could do his hour that he was testing. 0.99

01:30:59.000 Because he doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

01:31:00.000 They're not here to see any of us. 0.99

01:31:02.000 They're just here to see him.

01:31:03.000 And the girl, I was the girl in between a girl who bombed and Bill.

01:31:09.000 And I was like, this is so much fresher.

01:31:11.000 Thank God I didn't, in that instance, I didn't bomb.

01:31:14.000 But it was, you were like, the audience is traumatized.

01:31:18.000 Right, right, right.

01:31:19.000 They need to recover.

01:31:20.000 They need to, you need to bring them back and let them know everything's okay.

01:31:24.000 Yeah.

01:31:25.000 There's also the thing where you know that someone who's going on after you is just way better than you, and you just start judging your act and judging all of your material.

01:31:34.000 Oh, God.

01:31:35.000 Second-guessing your taglines.

01:31:37.000 Yeah.

01:31:38.000 That was like...

01:31:39.000 Who was it?

01:31:41.000 Jeff Garland.

01:31:42.000 I was opening for him, and I was just so paranoid.

01:31:44.000 I got in my head the first show.

01:31:46.000 It was a disaster. 0.99

01:31:47.000 And he's like, no one gives a fuck, Bridget. 0.99

01:31:49.000 They're here to see me. 0.99

01:31:51.000 He's like, you can go.

01:31:52.000 He's like, I... I demand you go out there and bomb. 0.99

01:31:55.000 And he's like, you need to try all new stuff.

01:31:57.000 He was great.

01:31:57.000 He pushed me.

01:31:58.000 He's like, I don't care.

01:31:59.000 Go out and be like, I'm going to come out.

01:32:01.000 Because you know him.

01:32:02.000 He just has like the awkward silences that he loves.

01:32:06.000 I love when he's like, no, most people in this moment would be uncomfortable.

01:32:11.000 It's just silent.

01:32:13.000 And they'll like sit down.

01:32:15.000 Just take a load off.

01:32:17.000 And yeah, I've learned a lot.

01:32:18.000 I mean, I definitely learned more from bombing than I have from...

01:32:22.000 Yeah, that's where you learn.

01:32:24.000 Well, you definitely learn from killing, too.

01:32:26.000 Well, that just feels like...

01:32:27.000 Feels awesome.

01:32:28.000 But it also does teach you what's good in your act and the pacing and correct pacing and how you're presenting bits.

01:32:36.000 I never leave a bit alone until I'm ready to film it.

01:32:41.000 I'm always fucking moving things around and trying to find a better way.

01:32:45.000 And you find out through whether or not it works. 0.79

01:32:49.000 What's your process for writing?

01:32:52.000 Well, there's a bunch of different ways.

01:32:54.000 Sometimes I just have an idea and I just write it down on my phone.

01:32:56.000 Sometimes I'll be talking to my wife and I'm like, I got an idea.

01:32:59.000 And she understands.

01:33:00.000 So I just run away.

01:33:01.000 I run away.

01:33:02.000 Like literally run.

01:33:03.000 And I just write it down.

01:33:04.000 It's like they're slippery fish.

01:33:05.000 Yeah, they're very...

01:33:06.000 You're like, I'll remember that.

01:33:07.000 You'll never remember it.

01:33:09.000 I know now that I don't remember it.

01:33:10.000 So if a good one pops in my head, I will literally run away in a restaurant.

01:33:15.000 I'll get up and run.

01:33:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:16.000 And like, what the fuck is he doing? 0.99

01:33:17.000 Do you audio? 0.99

01:33:19.000 Yes, sometimes.

01:33:20.000 Okay, so you can hear that.

01:33:21.000 Sometimes I audio.

01:33:21.000 Well, also, sometimes if I'm high, especially, and I think, I'm not going to remember this.

01:33:25.000 I have to say it, because I won't remember it while I'm writing it, because I'm really high.

01:33:30.000 Right.

01:33:32.000 You're like, this is genius.

01:33:33.000 In the middle of writing, I'm like, what was I saying?

01:33:36.000 So I have to say it, because it's quick.

01:33:38.000 So I have like, when I swipe down on my iPhone, the audio recorder is one of the things that's built in there.

01:33:44.000 So I just swipe down, hit that, and start yapping.

01:33:48.000 That helps.

01:33:49.000 But the other thing is like sitting...

01:33:51.000 And sometimes they're just ideas that I have that I bounce around in my head while I'm driving around.

01:33:55.000 I'm trying to figure out how to work it out.

01:33:57.000 And then I bring them on stage raw.

01:33:59.000 Sometimes I haven't even written it down. 0.98

01:34:01.000 And I just fuck around with it on stage just to see if I can find a place for it. 0.94

01:34:04.000 But then the big thing to me is also sitting in front of a computer. 0.96

01:34:08.000 And I know a lot of comics don't like that.

01:34:10.000 But some of my best bits have come from sitting down and going over the bit.

01:34:16.000 And going over material.

01:34:17.000 And also writing essays.

01:34:18.000 Like I write essays.

01:34:20.000 And so I'll write like a couple thousand words, but I'll extract a sentence.

01:34:24.000 And that one sentence will be a bit.

01:34:26.000 But if I don't sit and write that, I don't get that sentence.

01:34:29.000 And a lot of comics say, oh, I write on stage.

01:34:31.000 I'm like, yeah, I do too.

01:34:33.000 I do too.

01:34:33.000 But I also make myself sit down.

01:34:36.000 Look, I need a new hour every two years.

01:34:39.000 Really a new hour every year.

01:34:41.000 Because the last year is really just hammering the samurai sword down Bing!

01:34:46.000 Bing! 0.98

01:34:47.000 Bing! 0.98

01:34:48.000 It's honing the blade.

01:34:50.000 But the metal has to be in position after a year.

01:34:53.000 So I have to get something.

01:34:58.000 You can come up with it on your own.

01:35:00.000 You can just talk and go on stage.

01:35:03.000 Socializing with friends, a lot of times things come out.

01:35:06.000 Socializing with friends, good ideas will pop into my head.

01:35:09.000 You're laughing, having fun, you say something crazy.

01:35:11.000 You're like, oh my god, you should use that.

01:35:12.000 And you write that down, but there's no substitute for actually writing.

01:35:17.000 Yeah.

01:35:17.000 For sitting down and writing.

01:35:19.000 Yeah, just sitting your ass in that chair and doing the work. 0.99

01:35:22.000 It's like, it doesn't hurt. 1.00

01:35:23.000 Yeah, no.

01:35:24.000 This is what I tell young comics.

01:35:25.000 They're like, well, I really feel comfortable writing like that because it always comes out forced.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, get better at it.

01:35:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:31.000 Like, that's the argument that I've talked to comics that just do crowd work.

01:35:35.000 Yeah.

01:35:35.000 Whenever I do bits, it seems fake.

01:35:37.000 I'm like, well, that's because they're not good.

01:35:38.000 Yeah.

01:35:39.000 You gotta get better at doing that.

01:35:40.000 Do you like crowd work? 0.95

01:35:42.000 I'd do it if some shit is going on. 0.97

01:35:44.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.97

01:35:45.000 But, you know, I'll do it occasionally just to have fun.

01:35:49.000 Yeah.

01:35:50.000 But I feel like it's a weird sort of fake immediacy.

01:35:58.000 Like, there's a fake energy.

01:35:59.000 Like, oh my god, this is coming out of nowhere.

01:36:01.000 Yeah.

01:36:01.000 This is so much funnier than it really is.

01:36:03.000 Because people are laughing really loud because they know that you're coming up with it in the moment.

01:36:09.000 It's fun sometimes, but there's no substitute for real bits.

01:36:13.000 A real killer bit.

01:36:16.000 That's what I like. 0.99

01:36:17.000 When I would listen to Richard Pryor or Sam Kinison, I wanted those fucking... 0.99

01:36:23.000 Perfectly honed chunks. 0.99

01:36:26.000 That's like Chappelle.

01:36:27.000 I mean, God, I watch his stuff and I'm like, he is like a master class.

01:36:31.000 Just the way that he constantly misdirects and it's like, the joke's always on you!

01:36:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:36:38.000 Just so, I mean, that opening to the most recent one, The Sticks and Stones, it's just how he manages to bring it back to the Anthony Bourdain thing, and then he's like, and this guy, I mean, he's just a master.

01:36:55.000 You see somebody who's so gifted at that.

01:36:57.000 We're so dedicated.

01:36:59.000 I feel this way about Colin Quinn, actually, that New York special that he did, did you ever see that?

01:37:04.000 No, I haven't seen it.

01:37:06.000 Colin's a genius.

01:37:07.000 He's a genius. 0.99

01:37:08.000 I watched it and re-watched it again immediately because I was like, how the fuck did he just do that? 0.98

01:37:15.000 He tells the whole history of New York and it's all in jokes. 0.97

01:37:18.000 I think Seinfeld directed it.

01:37:20.000 It's on Netflix.

01:37:21.000 It is genius.

01:37:23.000 I've never seen anything like it, really.

01:37:25.000 It was like the history of New York in an hour.

01:37:27.000 He's so unappreciated.

01:37:28.000 So unappreciated.

01:37:30.000 Yeah.

01:37:30.000 And comics appreciate it.

01:37:32.000 I remember one time I did Tough Crowd.

01:37:44.000 Yeah.

01:37:52.000 I was like, it's kind of interesting that people don't know how good he is.

01:37:56.000 He's so good.

01:37:57.000 His Red State, Blue State that he did is genius.

01:38:01.000 It aired on CNN and now it's on Netflix, but it was a roast of all 50 states.

01:38:06.000 It's freaking hilarious.

01:38:08.000 It's amazing.

01:38:09.000 Yeah, he's really underappreciated.

01:38:12.000 What have you learned in your time off?

01:38:15.000 What have you learned about your comedy?

01:38:18.000 What are your...

01:38:19.000 I can live without it and learn that.

01:38:21.000 Oh.

01:38:22.000 I can survive.

01:38:23.000 Well, yeah.

01:38:23.000 Without it.

01:38:24.000 I mean, you're not twitchy?

01:38:26.000 Oh, well, I got twitchy the one time I did it.

01:38:28.000 I did it in Houston.

01:38:30.000 I did a weekend at the improv.

01:38:31.000 But then I got twitchy about giving people the COVID. I got worried.

01:38:36.000 I'm like, what if I got it?

01:38:37.000 And then I gave it to somebody.

01:38:38.000 Yeah, that would worry me.

01:38:39.000 Started getting weirded out about that.

01:38:40.000 I got weirded out about, like...

01:38:43.000 You know, someone who's compromised getting it because of my carelessness.

01:38:47.000 And then I thought about it.

01:38:47.000 I was like, also, then there's people that are in the audience.

01:38:50.000 Like, are you responsible?

01:38:51.000 If people come to see you and then someone in the audience gets COVID, like, are you responsible for that?

01:38:58.000 Not directly.

01:38:58.000 Not directly, but do you feel guilt-free?

01:39:01.000 Yeah, no.

01:39:02.000 You don't feel guilt-free. 1.00

01:39:03.000 Like, if you find out that a fan who loved you but was overweight and they came to see you and they got COVID and died after your show, like, fuck. 0.99

01:39:09.000 Yeah, you'd feel horrible. 1.00

01:39:10.000 You'd feel horrible.

01:39:11.000 If you were a decent person.

01:39:12.000 So I decided, okay, this is not...

01:39:13.000 I don't know if there's a way to do this where people don't get sick.

01:39:17.000 What about the drive-thrus?

01:39:18.000 Aren't people doing that?

01:39:20.000 That seems whack.

01:39:21.000 I know Bert loves him.

01:39:22.000 Bert loves him.

01:39:24.000 But Bert's crazy.

01:39:25.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:39:25.000 And he's always drunk. 0.98

01:39:26.000 So it's like, it's hard to...

01:39:28.000 He's having a blast.

01:39:30.000 He loves it.

01:39:30.000 Yeah.

01:39:31.000 But Bert just wanted to perform, you know, and he figured out a way to do it.

01:39:34.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure that the drive-in movie comedy thing was his idea.

01:39:39.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:40.000 I think he's the one that started doing it, and he's the one, for sure, who's doing it on the biggest scale.

01:39:45.000 He told me he did a show.

01:39:46.000 I go, how many people were there?

01:39:47.000 He goes, 700 cars.

01:39:48.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:48.000 I go, 700 cars.

01:39:50.000 That's crazy.

01:39:51.000 That's a lot of people.

01:39:52.000 Yeah.

01:39:52.000 You've got to figure that's at least 1,400 people.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, at least.

01:39:54.000 Maybe more.

01:39:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:56.000 And he said at the end of it, they were flashing their lights, and it was like a fucking UFO. He said it was awesome. 0.97

01:40:00.000 Oh, that's kind of cool.

01:40:01.000 Listen, he just wanted to be out there.

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 He just wanted to be out there doing stand-up, and it's going well.

01:40:07.000 He's selling out all over the place.

01:40:09.000 I feel bad for the comedians who were just getting that momentum.

01:40:14.000 The ones that were grinding and grinding and grinding.

01:40:17.000 I've been thinking a lot about this just with COVID. How much momentum was just stopped.

01:40:23.000 All over the world.

01:40:25.000 Just the momentum for musicians.

01:40:27.000 You know, I heard this story about a musician.

01:40:29.000 People starting business.

01:40:31.000 Just stopped.

01:40:32.000 Yeah, people going to college sports.

01:40:35.000 But these comedians who aren't making money.

01:40:38.000 Or musicians who aren't making money.

01:40:40.000 Because musicians only make money touring.

01:40:42.000 Yeah, but we're just about to start making money.

01:40:44.000 Maybe not even just beginning.

01:40:46.000 Like my friend Allie.

01:40:47.000 Allie Mikofsky.

01:40:48.000 She was opening for me.

01:40:50.000 Just really starting to get paid work.

01:40:52.000 And then was actually starting the headline.

01:40:53.000 And then...

01:40:54.000 It all went away.

01:40:55.000 Yeah.

01:40:56.000 Now she's living with her mom.

01:40:58.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:59.000 There's no money.

01:41:01.000 There's no money.

01:41:01.000 How do you make money?

01:41:02.000 The only way a comic survives today is if they started a podcast before all this shit happened. 0.99

01:41:08.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:41:08.000 And I have been telling comics this from the fucking jump. 0.99

01:41:11.000 You were the one who told me to start mine. 0.99

01:41:13.000 Yes, and you listened.

01:41:14.000 I did.

01:41:15.000 Yes.

01:41:15.000 You told me.

01:41:16.000 I remember where I was.

01:41:17.000 It was at the Comedy Store.

01:41:19.000 And you were like, start a podcast!

01:41:20.000 And I was like, Joe Rogan tells you to start a podcast.

01:41:23.000 I guess you should.

01:41:24.000 I was right.

01:41:24.000 Look, it's very successful now.

01:41:27.000 The thing is, it's a vehicle for you to be independent and to not just make money but also to get your voice out there.

01:41:35.000 You can get your opinions out there in a way that you don't have anybody leaning over your shoulder.

01:41:41.000 There was a time where I was doing the rounds with some radio people where there was some offers for me to do a radio thing.

01:41:50.000 And I was like, oh.

01:41:51.000 But there's going to be someone telling me what I can and can't say.

01:41:54.000 There's going to be someone bringing me guests.

01:41:57.000 Like this guest is going to come in and that guest is going to come in.

01:42:00.000 I'm like...

01:42:01.000 I could probably make do with that, but it would also be those...

01:42:03.000 There's uncomfortable moments.

01:42:05.000 I remember when I did radio where I knew the DJ did not want me there.

01:42:09.000 Right.

01:42:11.000 They weren't a fan of my comedy.

01:42:14.000 DJs are weird people.

01:42:17.000 They're like comics in a lot of ways, but a lot of them are like comics that never did comedy.

01:42:21.000 Right, right.

01:42:21.000 And they have this insecurity about the comics that are out there battling.

01:42:25.000 Yeah.

01:42:25.000 I remember one guy...

01:42:27.000 Was mad.

01:42:29.000 He said, looked like he had about two hours sleep.

01:42:32.000 He smelled like liquor.

01:42:33.000 I'm like, yeah.

01:42:34.000 Yeah, I'm a comic.

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, I did have two hours sleep.

01:42:37.000 I did smell like liquor.

01:42:39.000 We were up having a good time. 1.00

01:42:40.000 I had a show last night, motherfucker. 1.00

01:42:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:42:43.000 You know, we were up until four o'clock in the morning just laughing.

01:42:45.000 And then I came here at six.

01:42:47.000 Yeah, that's what happened. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Fuck do you expect? 1.00

01:42:50.000 This is what I do, man. 1.00

01:42:51.000 I'm a comedian.

01:42:52.000 But there's something about the person who just...

01:42:56.000 The comic...

01:42:57.000 A lot of DJs, I think, secretly wanted to be comics.

01:43:02.000 Yeah.

01:43:02.000 Because they'll try to be funny.

01:43:04.000 They'll try to be witty morning guy.

01:43:06.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.85

01:43:07.000 But they never put their balls in a wheelbarrow and made it onto that stage. 0.85

01:43:12.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:43:12.000 They never did. 0.98

01:43:12.000 So you were like, no radio? 0.98

01:43:14.000 Sticking with the podcast?

01:43:15.000 Well, I just didn't think anybody was going to hire me.

01:43:19.000 Oh, okay.

01:43:19.000 But the problem was I was worried about having a place...

01:43:24.000 Where I could just say what I wanted to say.

01:43:27.000 I always knew someone was going to tell me not to do something.

01:43:30.000 It's so annoying when you say something funny and someone's like, you can't say that. 1.00

01:43:35.000 It's like, oh, you fuck. 1.00

01:43:37.000 There was an episode of Fear Factor once where this lady could not reach her hand into this barrel. 1.00

01:43:42.000 There's this barrel of worms to pull out a piece of paper.

01:43:46.000 And the piece of paper, I think, would say...

01:43:48.000 You have to eat one worm or no worms.

01:43:51.000 And I'm pretty sure she was vegan, too.

01:43:52.000 So she couldn't eat a worm because then she'd have to kill a thing. 1.00

01:43:55.000 It was hilarious.

01:43:56.000 So I go, just put your hand in there and grab the paper.

01:43:59.000 She's like, I can't.

01:44:00.000 I go, but you definitely can.

01:44:02.000 Trust me.

01:44:02.000 You can do it.

01:44:03.000 You put your hand in there, you grab the paper, and you do it.

01:44:06.000 I go, it's not that hard.

01:44:07.000 I'm telling you it's all in your head.

01:44:08.000 I'm going to help you through it.

01:44:10.000 And she's like, I just can't.

01:44:11.000 I can't.

01:44:12.000 I go, you're saying you can't, but that's not true.

01:44:14.000 It's difficult, but you can.

01:44:16.000 I go, watch.

01:44:16.000 I'm going to do it.

01:44:17.000 I go, want to watch?

01:44:18.000 And I put my hand in there and I pull out a piece of paper.

01:44:20.000 I go, see that?

01:44:21.000 I go, that's why only men get to be president.

01:44:27.000 And she was so mad at me.

01:44:29.000 I go, I'm joking.

01:44:30.000 I go, but you can do it.

01:44:32.000 But NBC wouldn't do it.

01:44:34.000 They cut it out.

01:44:35.000 And I remember this conversation I had with the producers.

01:44:37.000 I was like, why can't you say that?

01:44:39.000 I go, you understand I'm joking, right?

01:44:41.000 Well, a lot of people are going to get mad.

01:44:42.000 I go, yeah, a lot of people get mad at jokes.

01:44:44.000 But it's pretty clear that I'm joking.

01:44:46.000 And you know I'm a comedian.

01:44:47.000 And everybody else does too.

01:44:49.000 So what are we doing?

01:44:50.000 Like, what are we doing?

01:44:51.000 Yeah.

01:44:51.000 But I remember that feeling.

01:44:52.000 I'm like, it's going to be that.

01:44:53.000 It's going to be that all day.

01:44:54.000 Yeah.

01:44:54.000 It's going to be that all the time.

01:44:56.000 It's going to be that. 0.97

01:44:56.000 But podcasts are the only place where a comic can say whatever the fuck they want. 0.97

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 But what I've been telling comics from the jump is this is the only place where you can do this.

01:45:06.000 Yeah.

01:45:07.000 Where you don't have any other people do it.

01:45:09.000 And thankfully, a lot of people have listened, particularly like Tom Segura and Christina.

01:45:13.000 Like, Tom and I had a conversation.

01:45:15.000 They're awesome.

01:45:15.000 They're moving out here.

01:45:16.000 Hollywood.

01:45:16.000 Oh, I love her.

01:45:17.000 Coming out this week.

01:45:18.000 I just love her.

01:45:19.000 Yeah.

01:45:20.000 I hooked him up with my real estate agent.

01:45:22.000 So we were in the middle of this lockdown, and me and Tom were on the phone.

01:45:26.000 He goes, dude, thank God you told me to do this podcast.

01:45:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:29.000 He goes, what the fuck? 1.00

01:45:30.000 He goes, I was making so much money touring, and then I was basing my lifestyle off of that. 0.99

01:45:35.000 No one ever thought the plug would be pulled on like this.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:37.000 No one ever saw this coming.

01:45:39.000 But not just that.

01:45:40.000 They've established who they are through that podcast in a way. 0.99

01:45:45.000 Like, you realize how silly he is. 0.99

01:45:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:47.000 And how silly they are together. 0.99

01:45:48.000 Yeah, they're so cute. 0.95

01:45:49.000 They're awesome.

01:45:50.000 They're great.

01:45:50.000 They're my favorite...

01:45:51.000 Well, they're not my favorite...

01:45:52.000 Yeah, they are.

01:45:53.000 Okay.

01:45:53.000 They're my favorite comedy couple.

01:45:55.000 But...

01:45:56.000 There's a bunch of other ones like Bonnie McFarlane and Rich Voss and Natasha Leggero and Moshe Kasher.

01:46:02.000 There's a few that work.

01:46:03.000 And that's the answer to these people that say like, oh, comedians should never date other comedians.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, my whole theory.

01:46:10.000 One headshot per couple.

01:46:11.000 Yeah.

01:46:12.000 It's a good theory.

01:46:13.000 It's a good theory most of the time.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:15.000 But like all theories.

01:46:17.000 There's always a...

01:46:17.000 Yeah.

01:46:18.000 There's some that work, obviously.

01:46:20.000 I think they don't...

01:46:20.000 The thing I love about Tom and they just don't take themselves very seriously at all.

01:46:25.000 Or their opinions.

01:46:27.000 Yeah.

01:46:27.000 Even though they're super successful, they're not the people that tell you what you should and shouldn't do.

01:46:32.000 Yeah, no. 1.00

01:46:33.000 That shit's gross. 1.00

01:46:34.000 I don't want to do that. 1.00

01:46:36.000 It's like you were saying earlier about just letting people kind of find their path.

01:46:40.000 Because what worked for me isn't going to work for thee.

01:46:43.000 And this is what we're hearing from these kind of extremes is what's right for me is what's right for everybody.

01:46:50.000 What's right for me is what you have to do.

01:46:51.000 And if I think something, you must comply.

01:46:53.000 If I believe something, you can't say a thing.

01:46:56.000 You can't think a thing.

01:46:57.000 You must do this.

01:46:58.000 You've got to adhere to this or that. 1.00

01:47:00.000 There's just so much madness in the world when it comes to this shit. 1.00

01:47:04.000 It's weird. 1.00

01:47:05.000 It's interesting.

01:47:06.000 I understand Kanye.

01:47:09.000 Clearly, I pray for him.

01:47:11.000 What?

01:47:11.000 You understand him?

01:47:12.000 I understand.

01:47:14.000 Right when he started wearing the MAGA hat, I was like, I get it.

01:47:19.000 I get it because there was so much pressure, especially like in LA and when you're living in that liberal bubble state.

01:47:27.000 There's so much ideological pressure.

01:47:30.000 I could feel it. 1.00

01:47:31.000 I could feel myself not wanting to say things and that's why I just was like, fuck it. 0.99

01:47:34.000 I'm saying whatever I want on Twitter. 0.98

01:47:37.000 I'll pay the consequences, whatever they might be, and I'm not going to censor myself.

01:47:42.000 I have the whole theory on Twitter, if you get a lot of followers for one tweet, you have to immediately tweet something that's the opposite so that you can weed out all the zealots and ideologues because that's the only way to purify your following from the radicals.

01:48:00.000 Does it work?

01:48:01.000 It does work.

01:48:02.000 I feel like, because I can see it in my mentions, for the most part, the people who follow me are in on the joke.

01:48:08.000 And there's some really smart, funny people, and I love it when they contribute to the joke.

01:48:12.000 I'll read my mentions, because they're usually freaking hilarious. 0.99

01:48:15.000 And then there's always one idiot who's like, oh, this is the most obvious grift I've ever seen. 0.99

01:48:21.000 I'm like, do you just... 1.00

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:25.000 That grift word. 0.94

01:48:26.000 There's too many dorks that are using that word. 0.91

01:48:28.000 I know. 1.00

01:48:29.000 Oh, it's a grifter.

01:48:30.000 Okay.

01:48:30.000 Because I like using the word.

01:48:31.000 There are a lot of people that are fucking grifters. 1.00

01:48:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:34.000 But there's too many people using that word.

01:48:35.000 It's a good word.

01:48:37.000 It's one of those words like- It's a fun word.

01:48:38.000 It's a really fun word.

01:48:39.000 It's a fun word to say.

01:48:40.000 It just has a good- I'll tell you where to find grifters.

01:48:44.000 Here's a fun thing to do.

01:48:46.000 I should start just a segment on my podcast.

01:48:49.000 I love reading Yelp reviews of psychics. 0.99

01:48:52.000 You want to talk about fucking grifters? 1.00

01:48:54.000 They're the biggest grifters. 1.00

01:48:55.000 I could read these. 0.98

01:48:57.000 For hours.

01:48:59.000 You want comedy, Joe?

01:49:00.000 Go read psychic reviews on Yelp.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, they are nothing but grift.

01:49:06.000 They're like, I came in and he didn't remember my name.

01:49:10.000 He should have known my name when I walked in.

01:49:12.000 The scenes that are set, like, I showed up and this woman was babysitting her grandchild and then she needed me to give them a ride.

01:49:19.000 I'm like, these... 0.99

01:49:20.000 People who are psychics are insane. 0.99

01:49:22.000 It's amazing. 0.54

01:49:24.000 All of your audience should take a moment, go read some psychic Yelp reviews.

01:49:28.000 When you're feeling down, you will immediately feel better about life.

01:49:31.000 There's all these people that want you to know that they know a psychic that's real.

01:49:37.000 Like, dude, I'm telling you, she knows.

01:49:39.000 She just knows things.

01:49:41.000 You gotta talk to her.

01:49:41.000 I had a girl on my podcast who was addicted to psychics, and I was like, come on, how bad could it have been?

01:49:47.000 And she was like, I spent $60,000 on psychics last year.

01:49:51.000 I'm like, okay, yeah, that's an addiction.

01:49:54.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:49:55.000 How did she have that much money?

01:49:57.000 I mean, I think she had decent money, obviously. 1.00

01:50:00.000 But that's the thing.

01:50:01.000 She was making decent money. 1.00

01:50:02.000 If you make more than $60,000 a year, you're probably not that much of a moron. 1.00

01:50:10.000 You've done well. 0.99

01:50:11.000 I mean...

01:50:11.000 If you have that money to blow on psychics, that's what's confusing about it.

01:50:16.000 It's crazy.

01:50:17.000 It's crazy.

01:50:18.000 And I think it got to the point where her psychic started feeling guilty because he told her that he had to cut her off.

01:50:24.000 That's like a drug dealer being like, you're a problem.

01:50:27.000 That's hilarious, bro. 0.69

01:50:27.000 You're taking in too much of this crack. 0.69

01:50:30.000 I thought she was kidding when she said it.

01:50:32.000 Her psyche cut her off.

01:50:33.000 Yeah.

01:50:34.000 Oh my god, that's funny.

01:50:35.000 Amazing.

01:50:35.000 That's funny.

01:50:36.000 It was a wacky interview. 0.99

01:50:37.000 Those are dirty people. 1.00

01:50:38.000 They're evil people. 1.00

01:50:40.000 Those people in the seance people, those are even eviler. 1.00

01:50:43.000 Your father is talking to me from beyond the grave.

01:50:47.000 I sense he misses you.

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 Oh, give me money. 0.77

01:50:51.000 Give me money.

01:50:51.000 I was talking to your dead dad.

01:50:52.000 Do you believe in any kind of psychic powers?

01:50:55.000 I think it is likely that there are evolving senses that we are aware of and that we recognize, but that no one in this current state of evolution has a handle on how to control them.

01:51:12.000 I think there are moments when you think about people and they call you.

01:51:15.000 I think there are times when you know someone's lying.

01:51:17.000 There's a feeling you get when you know someone secretly hates you.

01:51:21.000 Right? 1.00

01:51:23.000 There's weird things where you go, I knew that, fucker. 0.99

01:51:26.000 There's something, and I don't know if those are based... 0.99

01:51:29.000 Is it like body language that you're picking up?

01:51:31.000 It could be that.

01:51:31.000 Yeah.

01:51:32.000 It could be that.

01:51:32.000 But there's also things like when you think about someone and they call.

01:51:35.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 People say, oh, that's a coincidence.

01:51:37.000 You're right.

01:51:37.000 It could be a coincidence.

01:51:39.000 Yeah.

01:51:39.000 But I'm not buying that all the time.

01:51:41.000 I think sometimes it's a coincidence, but I think sometimes there's a strange interconnectedness to life.

01:51:48.000 And I think that we used to be animals with no language.

01:51:53.000 And then we develop language.

01:51:55.000 And you're basically, when you're talking to me, when you and I are talking and you're speaking with your language, you're making sounds Yeah.

01:52:23.000 Because you're forcing me to accept your definition of what these sounds mean and what that means in terms of what the actual context of it is and what the intent is behind these sounds.

01:52:37.000 And it's creepy and sneaky.

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:40.000 Wildly debunked.

01:52:41.000 Yes.

01:52:42.000 But I think...

01:52:43.000 Exactly.

01:52:43.000 It's been wildly debunked.

01:52:44.000 It's been wildly debunked by my opinion.

01:52:47.000 Drives me crazy.

01:52:48.000 But also just words you can and can't say.

01:52:51.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 But there's something about human beings where I feel like there is a connection that's like almost there.

01:53:01.000 Yeah.

01:53:01.000 It's like it comes together sometimes.

01:53:03.000 It's like just every now and then you get it, but you don't always have it.

01:53:08.000 There's something.

01:53:08.000 And when you do mushrooms, you have it in a big way.

01:53:11.000 Yeah.

01:53:24.000 Mm-hmm.

01:53:37.000 The researchers were calling it telepathine until they realized that, you know, due to the rules of scientific nomenclature, it had already been established that was harming.

01:53:47.000 So they knew what the thing was.

01:53:48.000 But they were calling it telepathine because through this compound, people were having these shared experiences without talking.

01:53:57.000 And then when they relayed these experiences, they were actually communicating without talking.

01:54:01.000 And they were saying, there's a type of telepathy that's possible with this drug.

01:54:06.000 I think we are becoming something, and if we don't interfere, we probably will technologically and with Neuralink and all these other crazy things.

01:54:16.000 If we don't interfere, I think we will ultimately become more and more in tune with that, our ability to sense things and communicate non-verbally and read each other non-verbally.

01:54:28.000 There's something about us.

01:54:32.000 Where we connect in this way that you can't measure it.

01:54:37.000 You can't put it on a scale.

01:54:38.000 You can't put a tape measure to it.

01:54:40.000 But there's something to it.

01:54:42.000 I agree. 0.98

01:54:42.000 My best friend and I have always had that psychic connection and we just thought the adults weren't witches like we were and that they sucked. 0.98

01:54:50.000 So we always developed it, and to this day I can be like, call me Sarah telepathically, and she will, literally within a day, it feels like I'll hear from her randomly.

01:55:02.000 It's just that we intuitively know when we need each other.

01:55:07.000 I worked with autistic kids for a while, one of my many jobs, and I kind of have a weird theory that Yeah.

01:55:34.000 Things that didn't make any sense, like my one example, I was working with a kid and he was nonverbal.

01:55:39.000 And we were in the playroom and he was, you know, he kept, he was obsessed with flies.

01:55:44.000 He would get obsessed with different things at different times.

01:55:47.000 And he would look up and then look back and look up and he was in his, we were like locked.

01:55:51.000 I thought it was locked.

01:55:52.000 It wasn't.

01:55:53.000 And he runs out of the room suddenly.

01:55:57.000 Runs through the laundry room, runs into the kitchen, and then mid-air grabs a fly as it's flying.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, I saw this.

01:56:04.000 I was running on his heels trying to catch him. 1.00

01:56:07.000 I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:56:08.000 And then he brings it back into the playroom and he would basically play with the fly until eventually it died. 1.00

01:56:15.000 It died.

01:56:18.000 And that was just one of the, I mean, there were so many moments like that with all these different kids where I'm like, they're tapped into something else.

01:56:26.000 And if you lived in a world and say you had a sixth sense, say that you lived in a world where nobody could see and you were the only person who could see. 0.91

01:56:34.000 You'd be banging your fucking head on the wall too if you could see and everyone was like, what are you talking about? 0.60

01:56:41.000 So sometimes I wonder if it's not, they're not, like you're saying, maybe the brain is evolving and we're just catching, it just doesn't fit in society. 0.99

01:56:50.000 So they're feeling, because there's a lot I don't know.

01:56:55.000 I just saw so many.

01:56:56.000 The autistic kids are just amazing.

01:57:00.000 Some people have that feeling when it comes to autism and autistic kids that maybe that's an emerging type of consciousness.

01:57:07.000 And that even though we're looking at today as being a detriment, that it might be the standard in the future.

01:57:14.000 Yeah.

01:57:14.000 I mean, they have amazing...

01:57:16.000 Because like you were saying, we're animals.

01:57:18.000 And we've done...

01:57:19.000 I've always been fascinated with how out of touch we are with our instincts and Because they still run the show for all of us.

01:57:26.000 Most people right now, there's so much fear.

01:57:30.000 You can feel it everywhere.

01:57:31.000 There's so much fear.

01:57:33.000 Everyone's in fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, everywhere.

01:57:36.000 And that drives so much of this behavior that we're seeing, like tribalism and trying to be a tyrant and rule over people and feeling like you have to stop anything that...

01:57:49.000 Doesn't make you feel...

01:57:49.000 Even that language, like, I don't feel safe.

01:57:51.000 What is that?

01:57:52.000 Because of words. 0.97

01:57:53.000 Like, what does that even fucking mean? 0.97

01:57:54.000 I don't feel safe. 0.94

01:57:55.000 I'm not...

01:57:56.000 Okay, you don't feel safe by my words, but you, like, burning down a city is supposed to be okay.

01:58:02.000 You know, it's a weird...

01:58:03.000 We live in, like, weird times where there's so much...

01:58:06.000 But I feel like...

01:58:09.000 I think it was really shown in the tsunami.

01:58:12.000 Remember that huge tsunami that was in like 2006, was it?

01:58:17.000 Or 2005?

01:58:18.000 No, not the one in Japan.

01:58:19.000 The one that was in the Indian Ocean.

01:58:21.000 And all the animals ran away. 0.98

01:58:23.000 And all the humans ran to go see all the shells and shit and why the ocean was... 0.97

01:58:28.000 There were tons of people who drowned because they were like, what's happening? 0.95

01:58:32.000 And that's just evidence to me of how out of touch with...

01:58:36.000 I wonder if our ancestors would have made that same mistake.

01:58:39.000 Where they're like, what's happening?

01:58:41.000 I don't know.

01:58:42.000 I don't know.

01:58:42.000 Or would they have been like, we're following the animals.

01:58:46.000 Well, there's a real wonder.

01:58:48.000 What kind of understanding of animals and of the land and... 0.99

01:58:54.000 And storms coming and all sorts of shit that animals seem to tune in. 0.98

01:58:57.000 Did we lose when we had houses? 0.99

01:59:01.000 Did we lose it is what I'm wondering.

01:59:03.000 I wonder, right? 1.00

01:59:03.000 Or did we just never have it and we're morons? 1.00

01:59:06.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:59:06.000 Maybe that's it. 1.00

01:59:07.000 Well, don't you think also...

01:59:09.000 We're so much more capable of expressing ourselves.

01:59:13.000 We're so much more occupied with tasks and things, whether it's information or computers or TV or different people that we're talking to constantly, that the mind is overwhelmed.

01:59:28.000 How much time do you spend in the woods?

01:59:30.000 I spend a lot of time in nature.

01:59:33.000 Well, when you're there and you hear nothing, it's weird.

01:59:36.000 Oh, I love it.

01:59:38.000 There's a weird quiet to the mountains.

01:59:42.000 Desert, too.

01:59:43.000 Yeah.

01:59:43.000 I love it.

01:59:44.000 And also, it's humbling because it lets you know you ain't shit. 1.00

01:59:47.000 Not shit! 1.00

01:59:48.000 You ain't shit. 1.00

01:59:48.000 That's why I love the desert. 1.00

01:59:49.000 I love it because it puts me in my place.

01:59:52.000 It's like everything in the desert has evolved to survive the harshest conditions on earth.

01:59:59.000 And everything there is either trying to kill you or will kill you.

02:00:03.000 Yeah.

02:00:03.000 And there's something about that painful evolution that all the plants and animals had to undergo that just speaks to me and just even the harsh, I mean, it's like nine o'clock in the morning, you're like, it's so hot, you're like, I'm gonna die.

02:00:19.000 And it's also, it doesn't care about you.

02:00:21.000 No!

02:00:21.000 This ecosystem has existed long before you were ever here, and it's all working together.

02:00:27.000 The bugs are working with the lizards, with the snakes, and the plants, and the little water that there is, and the coyotes, and all this shit is working together.

02:00:34.000 And it's maintaining this system. 0.98

02:00:38.000 But I love that.

02:00:39.000 I mean, that's the thing that I feel like people are losing when they're looking down into these demonic boxes all day long is that connection to, you know, having your feet kind of being made of mud but also made of stars, that famous quote I'm butchering.

02:00:56.000 But we are made of stardust. 0.99

02:00:59.000 We are a part, you know, I'll look out at the stars and be like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:01:03.000 I'm part of this. 0.99

02:01:04.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 I'm not even high and I can experience that trip.

02:01:08.000 We aren't separate from, I'm not looking at the stars.

02:01:12.000 It's like I'm part of that crazy and we're all just, it's such a miracle that we're here in this time and space and it's such a wild trip and we have more than we've ever had in the history of humans and we're wasting it,

02:01:29.000 tearing each other apart.

02:01:31.000 It actually hurts my soul.

02:01:33.000 There's a lot of wasted energy for sure.

02:01:34.000 That's why when I see people, you know, when people are like, okay, little miss captain of the fence riding team.

02:01:40.000 Well, you should ride fences.

02:01:42.000 I'm going to get a t-shirt that says captain of the fence riding team.

02:01:45.000 I'll wear it.

02:01:47.000 And you are truly the captain.

02:01:49.000 Listen, I'm not married to any of my thoughts.

02:01:53.000 Yeah.

02:01:53.000 I think it's good to question everything, including yourself.

02:01:57.000 Yeah.

02:01:58.000 There's some thoughts, like, hey, don't murder people.

02:02:01.000 Yeah.

02:02:01.000 Don't steal.

02:02:02.000 Don't rape. 0.97

02:02:02.000 Don't, you know. 0.97

02:02:04.000 Don't, like, pillage.

02:02:05.000 Don't torture puppies.

02:02:05.000 Yeah.

02:02:06.000 There's a lot of things that, like, real clear.

02:02:07.000 Be nice to old people.

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:08.000 Don't drown old people.

02:02:09.000 Exactly.

02:02:09.000 Like, yeah, there's a lot of, like, real clear ones.

02:02:13.000 But when it comes to whether it's government or behavior or ideology or any of the things that we hold so rigid, I think it's really dangerous.

02:02:25.000 It's really dangerous to look at things the way we look at things, to have these non-pliable opinions.

02:02:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:02:37.000 Of importance to these opinions being valid.

02:02:40.000 Yeah.

02:02:41.000 Connect who you are as a person, like your value as a person, to whether or not the opinions that you hold are true.

02:02:48.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:02:48.000 So you will fight to the death for those opinions.

02:02:51.000 It's so common.

02:02:52.000 It's so common.

02:02:53.000 That was like all the Trump supporters who were in my comments.

02:02:56.000 It was like I attacked them personally.

02:02:58.000 Yeah.

02:02:58.000 Like I had gone to their house and personally attacked them and their mom.

02:03:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:03.000 And told them that they were shit. 1.00

02:03:06.000 I'm like, you guys, you can't personally identify with... 1.00

02:03:09.000 Politicians are the biggest pieces of shit ever. 1.00

02:03:12.000 They are... 1.00

02:03:13.000 Trump's not a politician.

02:03:14.000 That's why we like him.

02:03:15.000 He's out here to drain the swamp.

02:03:16.000 I love it when they're like, we're not listening to Hollywood.

02:03:19.000 I'm like, your hero is Hollywood.

02:03:21.000 You know, what are you talking about?

02:03:23.000 Well, that's hilarious when people call you Hollywood.

02:03:25.000 Like, what does that mean?

02:03:26.000 No.

02:03:27.000 Has it been show business?

02:03:28.000 No.

02:03:29.000 I feel like we deserve better.

02:03:33.000 Yeah, we definitely do.

02:03:34.000 You know, and this election makes me feel like...

02:03:36.000 We definitely do.

02:03:37.000 We deserve...

02:03:38.000 But we don't.

02:03:39.000 But we don't.

02:03:39.000 We deserve this because this is where we've left it.

02:03:42.000 We've left it to this. 0.99

02:03:43.000 Like, nobody wants to be fucking president. 0.99

02:03:45.000 There's a few people that you could get behind, like Tulsi Gabbard, that you go, I just, I think that's who she is. 0.99

02:03:50.000 I mean, I don't think there's any bullshit there. 0.67

02:03:52.000 But there's very few of those. 0.92

02:03:54.000 The people that are willing to run for president, this is the kind of people that are willing to do this. 0.99

02:03:58.000 Because most of the people that think about it, they go, ooh, my fucking skeletons. 0.98

02:04:03.000 I have a friend of mine. 0.99

02:04:05.000 That's funny.

02:04:06.000 But that's what it is. 0.99

02:04:07.000 I mean, I was just thinking it would be a shit job and I would hate it. 0.99

02:04:10.000 That too. 0.99

02:04:10.000 And I would hate myself because I think by the time you get there, in order to even maneuver, you have to sell yourself out so many times that you don't even know... 0.99

02:04:19.000 Well, you think about how many people are just waiting to attack anybody who's running for president.

02:04:24.000 Yeah.

02:04:25.000 And about the way they ramp up their attacks and the machine behind it. 1.00

02:04:30.000 It's not as simple as like, I'm Joe Biden and I think Donald Trump's a fucking loser. 1.00

02:04:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:35.000 And so I'm going to say that.

02:04:35.000 No, there's like a whole machine.

02:04:38.000 With literally billions of dollars on the line.

02:04:41.000 Because if our team gets in there, then we can push our agenda.

02:04:45.000 We can get certain bills passed.

02:04:47.000 We can get certain legislation through.

02:04:50.000 We can make sure that certain regulations...

02:04:52.000 Stack the courts.

02:04:52.000 Yes!

02:04:53.000 And it can literally, one way or the other, impact corporations in this spectacular way.

02:04:59.000 So they have to really, really put a lot of effort into it.

02:05:02.000 So the idea that...

02:05:04.000 That we allow that.

02:05:05.000 That's where things get crazy.

02:05:08.000 It's almost like if you want to run for president, you almost should have no help.

02:05:15.000 It should be like grassroots.

02:05:17.000 They take you and they take away your phone and they keep you in a hotel room and they just bring you place to place and no one gets to talk to you.

02:05:24.000 Isn't that AOC, though?

02:05:25.000 She's pretty grassroots.

02:05:26.000 She has a whole organization behind her. 1.00

02:05:29.000 Well, they have the tribe.

02:05:29.000 The Justice League or whatever.

02:05:31.000 The squad.

02:05:32.000 Squad.

02:05:32.000 I call them the tribe.

02:05:33.000 But they also have the...

02:05:34.000 What is it?

02:05:35.000 Is it the Democratic Justice League or something?

02:05:40.000 Some super friends?

02:05:42.000 It's a pretty socialist, I think, organization.

02:05:45.000 Well, she's got a lot of people that also agree with her, that are also in politics, and they also work together.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:51.000 And then she's compromised some of her own democratic socialists of America.

02:05:56.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:05:56.000 I can't wait until she's a Republican in like 10 years.

02:06:00.000 You think? 1.00

02:06:01.000 Well, you were telling me that you had read some of your shit from when you were 24. I'm going to find it for you. 1.00

02:06:06.000 It was a part of the book when I was waiting tables telling everyone to remember my name and drunk all the time.

02:06:14.000 There was a whole part where I was talking about Bush and I didn't know anything about politics at all, but I was just so...

02:06:24.000 I was a libtard. 0.99

02:06:26.000 Like, the definition.

02:06:28.000 By definition of what the right would consider a libtard, that was... 1.00

02:06:32.000 Well, you weren't hardened yet by the world.

02:06:34.000 I mean, I was pretty hardened. 0.99

02:06:36.000 I had had enough shit prior to 23 that... 0.98

02:06:42.000 Yeah, but you were still hopeful that these sort of airy-fairy, idealistic notions of what should be done with our culture, that this would work. 0.99

02:06:53.000 And with no understanding of economics, no understanding of...

02:06:58.000 I think it's good to be that hopeful.

02:07:00.000 I don't think you should go burn down government buildings and be like, yeah, let's tear it all down.

02:07:06.000 But I think it's good to have that idealistic hope.

02:07:08.000 What is that famous quote?

02:07:11.000 If you're not a Democrat in your 20s, you don't have a heart. 0.97

02:07:15.000 And if you're not a Republican in your 30s, you don't have a brain or something like that.

02:07:19.000 Or you're not a conservative.

02:07:21.000 Yeah, it's an old saying.

02:07:22.000 If you're not a liberal...

02:07:24.000 As a youth, you have no heart. 0.99

02:07:26.000 If you're not a conservative, as you're older, you have no brain.

02:07:28.000 And I'm not really either because, you know, I'm not socially conservative at all. 0.65

02:07:33.000 Me neither.

02:07:33.000 I mean, that's where they...

02:07:35.000 It's funny when people were like, oh, she's just a grifter. 0.97

02:07:38.000 She's gotten red-pilled and she's going to be on the right now. 0.98

02:07:40.000 And then the right will start talking about porn or something.

02:07:43.000 I'm like, oh, thank God.

02:07:44.000 I'm not one of them. 0.99

02:07:46.000 Or sex or whatever weird shit. 1.00

02:07:48.000 Weird shit, yeah. 1.00

02:07:49.000 Or, you know, whether or not... 1.00

02:07:52.000 You know, these ideas that you have to be one or the other is where it's so stupid. 1.00

02:07:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:07:59.000 You can hold both things. 0.99

02:08:01.000 That is what we should be doing.

02:08:03.000 We should be holding both things and evaluating them.

02:08:08.000 Yeah.

02:08:08.000 Well, especially, it's really difficult for me when people want to restrict other people's ability to express themselves or do things.

02:08:17.000 Whether it's...

02:08:19.000 You know, gay rights or trans rights or civil rights or women's rights or anytime you want to stop people from doing something that literally has nothing to do with you.

02:08:30.000 Yeah.

02:08:30.000 You know, like the gay rights one, the gay marriage one was always weird to me.

02:08:35.000 When I was seven years old, we moved to Florida, and I had this Cuban friend, his name was Candy, Candido.

02:08:42.000 His last name was Candido, and they called him Candy.

02:08:45.000 I love that.

02:08:46.000 And his dad was so mad. 1.00

02:08:48.000 He had a newspaper, and he's slamming it down on the fucking table. 0.99

02:08:52.000 And we're like, what's the matter? 1.00

02:08:53.000 He's like, they're going to let these fags marry each other. 1.00

02:08:56.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00

02:08:57.000 I was...

02:08:58.000 How old was I? 11?

02:09:00.000 Yeah, I was 11. Because I'd moved from San Francisco, so I was 11. And I remember thinking, what a fucking idiot.

02:09:05.000 This guy's a grown man. 1.00

02:09:07.000 See, I lived in San Francisco from 7 to 11. So I was like, I was right down the street from Lombard Street.

02:09:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:14.000 So we were around, like my next door neighbors, they would get naked.

02:09:18.000 They were these gay guys. 0.81

02:09:19.000 They would get naked with my aunt and they would smoke pot and play the bongos. 0.58

02:09:23.000 That was my life when I was seven years old.

02:09:25.000 I was so used to gay people, which is so normal for me, that being around this guy when I was 11, I was like, this is so weird. 0.74

02:09:33.000 Yeah, it's so weird.

02:09:34.000 Because I moved from San Francisco to Florida.

02:09:37.000 Oh, wow. 0.99

02:09:38.000 Gainesville, Florida, which was so dumb in an apartment complex. 1.00

02:09:43.000 So it was like, people weren't doing so good, and they were so dumb. 1.00

02:09:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:09:49.000 And it was too hot!

02:09:50.000 It was too hot to be smart.

02:09:51.000 There's something I think about Florida. 0.99

02:09:53.000 It's like, God damn, it's so hot down there. 0.99

02:09:54.000 You can't be smart. 0.99

02:09:55.000 It's hard.

02:09:56.000 It's hard, you know?

02:09:57.000 That's gone.

02:09:58.000 But I was just saying that, like, so I don't understand why people who are conservative, like, why, if you're fiscally conservative, that makes sense.

02:10:09.000 If you're financially conservative, if you believe in the Second Amendment, you have all these ideas about rights.

02:10:14.000 Like, we have rights. 0.99

02:10:15.000 But why do you give a fuck if people get married? 0.99

02:10:18.000 Like, what? 0.99

02:10:19.000 You know Caitlyn Jenner, when she transitioned, was against gay marriage?

02:10:23.000 Oh, weird.

02:10:24.000 She's like, I've always been more of a traditional girl.

02:10:27.000 What?

02:10:28.000 Is that true?

02:10:30.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:30.000 On the Ellen show.

02:10:32.000 On Ellen?

02:10:33.000 Ellen confronted her about it.

02:10:35.000 Wow.

02:10:36.000 And it was like, what?

02:10:37.000 What happened to all...

02:10:39.000 What?

02:10:41.000 I don't understand.

02:10:43.000 What?

02:10:44.000 Well, she's a Republican. 0.89

02:10:46.000 Oh.

02:10:46.000 Right.

02:10:47.000 Is she still?

02:10:48.000 I don't know.

02:10:49.000 Probably not.

02:10:49.000 I don't know.

02:10:51.000 I think so.

02:10:52.000 Maybe.

02:10:52.000 But when you're Republican, that's one of those things you're supposed to just subscribe to.

02:10:57.000 It seems like they've accepted that that's not a battle they're winning.

02:11:02.000 Well, it's evolution of the culture.

02:11:05.000 At a certain point in time, don't you know any gay people that are cool? 1.00

02:11:09.000 Do you really give a fuck if they get married? 1.00

02:11:12.000 Marriage is dumb. 1.00

02:11:14.000 Anybody dumb enough to get married should be allowed to give away half their shit. 1.00

02:11:19.000 We were in Arizona and this guy was talking about his daughter and she is gay and divorced and I was like, oh, I'm glad the gays know what divorce is all about now. 1.00

02:11:28.000 They're probably going to regret fighting for that marriage thing.

02:11:31.000 They're paying for half an alimony. 1.00

02:11:33.000 They're like, ah, shit. 0.99

02:11:35.000 Melissa Etheridge was on the podcast years ago and she's been married and divorced a couple times and she was telling me all these women she's got to pay alimony to. 1.00

02:11:43.000 I go, what's that all about? 1.00

02:11:44.000 She goes, bitches are crazy. 1.00

02:11:50.000 And I was like, only you can say that! 1.00

02:11:53.000 Only a gay woman who's been divorced is paying all these women alimony. 1.00

02:11:57.000 And especially, it's not like she fucked them so hard they can never work again. 0.99

02:12:01.000 Like, no, you used to be in a relationship with a successful person. 0.99

02:12:04.000 You're not anymore.

02:12:05.000 Time to get a job.

02:12:07.000 No!

02:12:08.000 They can't! 1.00

02:12:10.000 She licked their pussy so good, they're just confused. 1.00

02:12:12.000 They can't even fill out forms. 1.00

02:12:14.000 They can't work anymore.

02:12:16.000 Whose stand-up is that?

02:12:17.000 I'm accustomed to this.

02:12:18.000 I'm accustomed.

02:12:19.000 I think it's Chris Rock.

02:12:21.000 I think it's Chris Rock.

02:12:21.000 He's like, you get accustomed to things.

02:12:23.000 I'm accustomed to getting my dick sucked. 1.00

02:12:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:26.000 Yeah, I need pussy payments. 1.00

02:12:27.000 That's what it was, right? 1.00

02:12:29.000 Yeah.

02:12:29.000 I think about that a lot.

02:12:31.000 Look, I think marriage is great if you love someone so much you're willing to do something stupid. 1.00

02:12:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:12:38.000 That's my situation. 0.99

02:12:39.000 Yeah.

02:12:40.000 Yeah.

02:12:41.000 I just think it makes sense when you have family.

02:12:46.000 It makes sense when you have children.

02:12:47.000 Because the way I felt like having a child is way more of a commitment than anything financial.

02:12:54.000 You're making a human being bring them in the world and you're responsible for them for at least 18 years.

02:12:58.000 At least.

02:12:59.000 Now it's like 25. Dude, I know people that are 40 that live with their parents right now.

02:13:03.000 Especially during COVID. It's tough, yeah.

02:13:06.000 We've all become like European families.

02:13:10.000 Intergenerational.

02:13:10.000 Yeah.

02:13:10.000 Well, you've got to survive.

02:13:12.000 The reality is it's not a bad idea to pool all your resources together and try to survive.

02:13:17.000 And help each other.

02:13:18.000 Right.

02:13:18.000 Because we really are at a crossroads.

02:13:22.000 It makes us realize how good we had it for so many years when the economy was booming and people could be independent and out there supporting themselves. 0.98

02:13:33.000 But then when all that shit is literally cut in half, you've got to make do. 0.99

02:13:36.000 You've got to figure it out. 0.99

02:13:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:38.000 And I think it's better for people to be around other people.

02:13:41.000 Yes.

02:13:42.000 Because all my friends who have been isolated, you know, people, it's way more open here.

02:13:46.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:47.000 But my friends in LA are losing their minds, who have been alone, because it's been going on like six months now.

02:13:52.000 It is way more open here, isn't it?

02:13:54.000 Yeah, way more open.

02:13:55.000 That's why I love it!

02:13:56.000 Yeah, it feels normal.

02:13:58.000 Yeah, it does, right?

02:13:59.000 You wear a mask.

02:14:00.000 Go to a restaurant.

02:14:01.000 Yeah, you go to a restaurant.

02:14:02.000 It's crazy.

02:14:03.000 Isn't it amazing?

02:14:04.000 It's nice.

02:14:05.000 It's been nice to just feel kind of what normal was.

02:14:09.000 Retail stores are open.

02:14:10.000 You go to a retail store, put a mask on.

02:14:12.000 And LA definitely, I mean, it's, when I was walking my dog in LA, every single day, I have to avoid a crazy, there was a guy with a machete, there was, and then I walked out, and then I was two days, every walk I go on, there's basically like a crazy homeless,

02:14:28.000 a young woman who's, Out alone and they're having some kind of breakdown and it gets worse and worse every day. 0.88

02:14:36.000 It's like it is deteriorating faster than I could have even imagined and it makes me mad because the government doesn't give a fuck about me. 0.96

02:14:46.000 They don't care about my safety. 0.90

02:14:47.000 I'm supposed to have endless compassion for the homeless, and they don't care that there's a guy with a machete having a moment.

02:14:54.000 Well, something they don't care.

02:14:55.000 They can't do anything about it.

02:14:56.000 They can, though.

02:14:57.000 Their only job is to somewhat keep me safe as a citizen.

02:15:04.000 Why am I paying taxes if they can't do that? 1.00

02:15:07.000 This is why I'm like, fuck you, California. 1.00

02:15:08.000 You're garbage. 1.00

02:15:09.000 You're paying taxes to keep these politicians fed. 1.00

02:15:13.000 Okay, but they need to make sure that I'm not getting attacked while I walk my dog.

02:15:18.000 But that's the problem with some places as big as LA. There's like a diffusion of responsibility thing that you get to when you get to numbers that are so high.

02:15:26.000 When you get to like 20 million people.

02:15:29.000 You know, there's like an expression about how—not an expression, but there's an example about how when people see someone getting attacked, like if there's only one person there and someone's getting attacked, you feel responsible to help.

02:15:43.000 But if you're in a crowd and someone's attacking someone— Everyone assumes everyone else.

02:15:46.000 Yeah, everyone assumes someone else is going to jump in.

02:15:48.000 And nobody does anything.

02:15:49.000 Yeah, but it's not- And nobody feels responsible.

02:15:51.000 It's been notably worse.

02:15:54.000 You know, there has to be something.

02:15:55.000 People are paying tons of money.

02:15:58.000 I was in Venice.

02:15:59.000 I was in Brentwood.

02:16:00.000 These people are paying millions of dollars in taxes.

02:16:03.000 And they have encampments across the street from their house.

02:16:07.000 There are kids playing.

02:16:08.000 Yeah.

02:16:08.000 It's not safe.

02:16:11.000 Something has to...

02:16:12.000 It's interesting too, Jamie and I were talking about this, because they, before, just the way...

02:16:20.000 I don't even know if they know how many actual homeless people are there, because I volunteered once to be part of the homeless count, and that's how they count the homeless, is volunteers who go through LA for like one weekend and count as many homeless people as they can.

02:16:36.000 And do you write down what streets you're on?

02:16:38.000 Yeah, and you go in little groups.

02:16:41.000 How many did you find?

02:16:42.000 I was out of town that weekend.

02:16:48.000 My aunt was like, please don't do that. 1.00

02:16:50.000 But I legitimately was out of town that weekend, so I ended up not being able to do it.

02:16:54.000 But I was like, oh, cool, this is how they count the homeless.

02:16:57.000 But that doesn't seem like a very good measure of how many there are homeless people.

02:17:03.000 There are, I bet it's probably like twice as many as it actually reports.

02:17:07.000 How are you getting...

02:17:09.000 Yeah, that's a lot of people.

02:17:11.000 70,000, they say now?

02:17:13.000 They think New York City has 80,000.

02:17:15.000 Wow. 1.00

02:17:16.000 They're idiots. 1.00

02:17:17.000 They should be in LA. It's a way better place to be homeless. 1.00

02:17:22.000 Yeah, LA is, like, tolerable.

02:17:24.000 Well, because now they've...

02:17:25.000 As long as you get under the underpass, it's hot.

02:17:25.000 Yeah, but during COVID, they've loosened all those restrictions.

02:17:28.000 So it used to be, like, you couldn't block the sidewalk.

02:17:31.000 Yeah.

02:17:31.000 And you couldn't with your...

02:17:32.000 We saw somebody grilling a freaking, like...

02:17:35.000 It was a huge fire on a grill on the side of the road. 0.99

02:17:38.000 It was, like, a hibachi or some shit. 0.97

02:17:41.000 Like, when... 0.99

02:17:41.000 Just having a grill in the middle and there's women with their strollers trying to walk... 0.99

02:17:46.000 It's madness.

02:17:47.000 Ugh.

02:17:48.000 So bad.

02:17:50.000 I feel like it's the one problem if I could solve, I would focus on solving it.

02:17:55.000 You'd focus on homelessness.

02:17:56.000 Because it's such a crossroads of economics, mental illness, addiction.

02:18:01.000 It's so many things that are abuse.

02:18:03.000 I was watching a video about this kid.

02:18:05.000 He was 28. He's been homeless literally on the street since he was nine years old.

02:18:09.000 He was in a car with his mom.

02:18:12.000 They were living in a car until they were 11. And then from 11 on, he was on the street.

02:18:17.000 It was terrible.

02:18:19.000 He had no teeth.

02:18:22.000 His front teeth were gone.

02:18:23.000 He had his face reconstructed.

02:18:25.000 His arms smashed.

02:18:26.000 Somebody beat him up with a bat. 0.79

02:18:28.000 He, you know, had been sexually abused.

02:18:30.000 He didn't have any socks.

02:18:32.000 He didn't have any shoes.

02:18:33.000 He didn't have anything.

02:18:34.000 He had, you know, he talked about the small amount of clothes he had.

02:18:38.000 And it was kind of weird because he was, you know, really for a person who has been homeless and on the street and his horrible life since he was nine, kind of seemed pretty together.

02:18:48.000 Like the way he was talking, communicating, at least in this video.

02:18:52.000 And, you know, you realize...

02:18:55.000 This is the thing about people.

02:18:57.000 If you're mad at someone, say if you're a gay person and you're mad that Caitlyn Jenner doesn't believe in gay marriage even though she wanted to transition and wants you to call her a woman now.

02:19:10.000 Instead of being mad, and I guess you could be mad at the idea, but I think what we really need to start doing is look like, what happened?

02:19:21.000 What are all the things that took place in your life that you turned into this right now?

02:19:28.000 What are those things?

02:19:30.000 This is the concept of determinism, right?

02:19:32.000 This is the concept that There is no real free will.

02:19:35.000 Right.

02:19:49.000 And it brings you to this point.

02:19:50.000 And I think this is the thing with homeless people that we need to take into consideration as well. 1.00

02:19:55.000 Because when you see someone who's homeless and you're like, oh, this fucking loser. 1.00

02:20:00.000 Oh, they're a drug addict. 1.00

02:20:01.000 Oh, get them away from my house. 0.99

02:20:05.000 What undoing you have to have to take a 40-year-old person who's grilling in front of a house in Venice with heroin tracks all over their arm and make them a reasonable contributor to society, a healthy person who can kind of do anything and I know.

02:20:25.000 I know.

02:20:26.000 There's so much undoing.

02:20:27.000 I do have endless compassion, but on the other hand, there's a lot of entitlement.

02:20:31.000 There's a lot of entitlement in the homeless community.

02:20:35.000 There is, but they don't have anything.

02:20:36.000 If you don't have anything and you look at people who have things...

02:20:39.000 Look, this is one of the things you're seeing with a lot of these riots, a lot of the looting and all the craziness.

02:20:45.000 It's like haves and have-nots. 0.99

02:20:46.000 And the have-nots are like, these motherfuckers, why do they have this? 1.00

02:20:50.000 Especially during COVID, because everybody has nothing, right? 0.99

02:20:53.000 These homeless people don't have anything.

02:20:54.000 They feel entitled because they don't have anything, and you do.

02:20:58.000 And there's a weird thing that people have this thought that if you have something and they don't have it, it's because there's an injustice.

02:21:08.000 And you have contributed to this injustice or you've caused this injustice.

02:21:12.000 That's where the entitlement comes.

02:21:13.000 And it's a real problem in the way Americans in particular think about economics.

02:21:19.000 Yeah, it's resentment politics.

02:21:21.000 It's all resentment.

02:21:22.000 And you can get a lot of people to agree with you.

02:21:24.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:24.000 Because most people also don't have good things.

02:21:29.000 I was reading this tweet from this girl who was talking about, you know, like, we need to start going into the suburbs and going into these people's houses.

02:21:38.000 Yeah.

02:21:39.000 And then she wrote, eat the rich.

02:21:41.000 Yeah, that's a big thing right now.

02:21:43.000 And I was like, what are you talking about?

02:21:44.000 So you're 24, okay?

02:21:47.000 What do you think is going to happen when you're 44 and you're one of those people?

02:21:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:21:50.000 You're going to be happy with that? 0.98

02:21:51.000 You're going to be happy when you're tired because you've been working all day, trying to achieve a dream, and you're exhausted, and you see these people outside your house, how the fuck do you have this house? 0.95

02:21:59.000 How are you in that house? 0.99

02:22:00.000 All comfortable as fuck, but we're out here. 0.99

02:22:03.000 I'm sure you've seen some of those people too, right? 0.99

02:22:06.000 There was one video from, I think, Kenosha, and this guy, I'm not sure if that's when it was from, but it just stuck with me.

02:22:12.000 He was yelling at the... 0.99

02:22:13.000 They had smashed his windows, and he was like, I have fucking mouths to feed! 0.99

02:22:17.000 He's like, do you want everybody to vote for Trump? 1.00

02:22:19.000 I have fucking mouths to feed! 1.00

02:22:21.000 What are you doing? 1.00

02:22:22.000 And they'd smashed his...

02:22:24.000 They don't know what they're doing.

02:22:25.000 They don't know what they're doing.

02:22:26.000 And so many of the kids on the streets are truly kids.

02:22:30.000 17. Yes.

02:22:31.000 Children.

02:22:31.000 I'm like, where are your parents?

02:22:32.000 We have a fucking parenting problem. 1.00

02:22:34.000 The kid in the Kenosha that wound up killing those people. 1.00

02:22:36.000 Are they on Instagram?

02:22:38.000 The parents are.

02:22:39.000 They're like, yeah, honey, go have fun. 1.00

02:22:41.000 This motherfucker, he's not liking my shit. 1.00

02:22:44.000 Resentment, resentment, resentment. 1.00

02:22:48.000 We have a lot of problems.

02:22:50.000 And there's a lot of us.

02:22:51.000 And we could all do with some house cleaning.

02:22:58.000 And compassion.

02:22:59.000 I think compassion for each other.

02:23:02.000 Clean up your own backyard.

02:23:04.000 Get your life together.

02:23:05.000 Do your best. 1.00

02:23:06.000 Nobody wants to do that shit. 1.00

02:23:07.000 They want to blame everyone. 1.00

02:23:09.000 Nobody wants to clean the shit in their front yard and not do drugs that they're spending all their money on. 1.00

02:23:15.000 They want to go out and be like, the libs are ruining my life! 1.00

02:23:19.000 Or burn down a fucking building. 1.00

02:23:22.000 It's weird how there's certain environments that just tolerate homelessness and craziness, and then those folks find those environments. 1.00

02:23:30.000 Like Venice.

02:23:31.000 Venice is just a breeding ground for it.

02:23:35.000 It's crazy.

02:23:36.000 There's just so much, it's such a, it is really just so complex, I don't even know how you begin, but I don't, I do wonder why some, obviously some cities are doing things that, where it isn't festering and exploding,

02:23:53.000 and some cities are, so why don't, what are the cities that have it somewhat under control?

02:23:59.000 Republican?

02:24:01.000 That's the problem.

02:24:02.000 Are they just busting them to LA? Yeah, they're law and order people like Giuliani was when he was the law and order guy in New York City.

02:24:09.000 But where did they all go?

02:24:09.000 That's a good question.

02:24:10.000 I don't know.

02:24:11.000 I don't know what they do with them.

02:24:12.000 I don't know how they help them.

02:24:13.000 I don't know what they do. 0.98

02:24:14.000 There was an Upper West Side thing recently where they had a hotel and they had like 300 homeless guys living in this hotel, but then they started like jerking off in front of people and, you know, taking shits on people's cars and stuff. 0.99

02:24:26.000 And they... 0.97

02:24:27.000 De Blasio had to move him out and now people are pissed off at him for taking these people out.

02:24:32.000 It was mostly men, mostly homeless men.

02:24:35.000 And what's really crazy was this article that was written about it was so distorted.

02:24:41.000 It was like homeless families are being relocated when their kids are just now going to school.

02:24:49.000 Like, first of all, yes, literally, this is pulling at the heartstrings.

02:24:53.000 There's been a bunch of things they're doing lately to pull at the heartstrings, but this was one of the most preposterous articles that I read.

02:24:58.000 One of them was they're now calling homeless people the unhoused.

02:25:02.000 No, it's persons experiencing houselessness.

02:25:04.000 We're going to get canceled for calling them homeless.

02:25:07.000 No, the unhoused.

02:25:08.000 No, it's persons experiencing...

02:25:09.000 LA Times, last week.

02:25:10.000 Oh, it's upgraded?

02:25:12.000 Unhoused.

02:25:13.000 The unhoused.

02:25:14.000 This was an article about people that were putting rocks under underpasses.

02:25:18.000 When homeless people had moved out of certain areas, they were going under these underpasses and putting these enormous rocks so that people couldn't put tents in.

02:25:27.000 And they were saying, do you understand what you're doing to the unhoused?

02:25:30.000 These are the only places they can go to escape the elements.

02:25:32.000 The reason why they go under that underpass, it's literally the difference between life and death.

02:25:37.000 That's also somewhat of a myth because there are beds sometimes that go empty because people don't want to give up their drugs and weapons.

02:25:47.000 So the idea that they don't have anywhere else to go isn't always true.

02:25:52.000 Well, they're drug addicts, Bridget. 1.00

02:25:54.000 You need to take a little bit more compassion when you're making these statements because these people that are drug addicts, they don't know what to do.

02:26:01.000 And they need their drugs.

02:26:03.000 You should let them just do their drugs. 1.00

02:26:04.000 Does it feel like we're on the backside of...

02:26:08.000 The Empire?

02:26:09.000 Yeah.

02:26:09.000 Yeah, it feels like Rome right before it collapses.

02:26:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:26:11.000 Yeah, I mean, one of the things that Douglas Murray said when I interviewed him, I guess I don't interview anybody, right?

02:26:17.000 I talk to people.

02:26:19.000 I guess you remember that.

02:26:21.000 But when I was...

02:26:22.000 Gotcha!

02:26:23.000 He was saying that at the end of every empire, there's all these gender issues or hermaphrodites.

02:26:29.000 Oh, really?

02:26:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:26:30.000 He went into depth about it.

02:26:31.000 It's like Rome and Greece.

02:26:32.000 They always had this thing where they want to break down all the content.

02:26:35.000 There is no gender. 0.99

02:26:36.000 There's no sex.

02:26:37.000 There's no biology.

02:26:38.000 It's deconstruction.

02:26:39.000 Deconstruct everything.

02:26:40.000 Wow.

02:26:40.000 And they also deconstruct all the norms, all the norms of culture.

02:26:45.000 And one of the more disconcerting ones is deconstructing pedophilia.

02:26:49.000 Wow.

02:26:49.000 That has been a constant one lately, where you're seeing...

02:26:54.000 There's a weird pedo vibe everywhere.

02:26:56.000 Well, you know that thing...

02:26:58.000 Cuties?

02:26:58.000 Oh, Cuties is crazy.

02:27:00.000 Okay, yeah.

02:27:01.000 I was talking about the Gavin Newsom thing, where they passed that.

02:27:05.000 Did that pass?

02:27:06.000 He has to pass.

02:27:06.000 He passed.

02:27:07.000 He signed it.

02:27:08.000 And they said it was a great victory for LGBTQ people.

02:27:11.000 What?

02:27:12.000 Because before, this is the idea.

02:27:17.000 I might be butchering it, but I'm going to do my best.

02:27:20.000 Before, if you had... 1.00

02:27:22.000 Vaginal sex with a girl and impregnated her and say like maybe you were 20 and she was 14. They didn't put you in a sex register list because they wanted you to be responsible for taking care of the baby that you created. 0.98

02:27:36.000 So this was the idea. 0.99

02:27:38.000 But if you had anal or oral sex with her, then they would put you on the sex offender list. 1.00

02:27:45.000 Weird. 1.00

02:27:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:27:46.000 Well, it's because you're just being a pervert. 0.99

02:27:48.000 You're just mouthfucking some 14-year-old as opposed to making a baby that you would then be responsible for. 1.00

02:27:55.000 That's a weird line. 0.99

02:27:56.000 So, okay, but this is why they wanted to pass this law and this is why it would, for LBGTQ folks, whatever, gay people, whatever.

02:28:05.000 I think?

02:28:24.000 We're good to go.

02:28:39.000 So I guess you're giving the judge the ability to decide one way or another.

02:28:46.000 So you give them the ability to discern whether or not this was someone who's in an actual relationship with a person who can commit, which is very weird.

02:28:56.000 Right.

02:28:57.000 A certain person who can consent.

02:28:59.000 But the problem with people, they gave a 10-year gap.

02:29:03.000 So, you know, like a...

02:29:05.000 You could say 14 and 24. Or you could say 10 and 20. I don't know what it means or where it's defined.

02:29:12.000 Yeah, that's weird.

02:29:13.000 It's crazy, but they're only doing it because it already existed in that form for straight people.

02:29:19.000 Right, okay. 0.99

02:29:21.000 See, we're looking at it like saying, oh, now you're making it legal for 24-year-olds to fuck 14-year-olds. 1.00

02:29:26.000 Right, but it's already kind of like that with straight people if they have vaginal sex. 1.00

02:29:33.000 Right. 0.99

02:29:34.000 Wow, that's wild.

02:29:35.000 It's wild.

02:29:36.000 I didn't even know that that was not, you know, I don't know.

02:29:40.000 I thought it was like statutory.

02:29:42.000 I think even, but I think if you impregnate, I think this is the idea. 0.83

02:29:46.000 If the person's impregnated, the judge has the ability to not put them on the sex offender list so that that person can get a job.

02:29:53.000 Right.

02:29:54.000 So you can support your child.

02:29:55.000 Right, right.

02:29:56.000 Especially in impoverished areas, right?

02:29:58.000 Right.

02:29:59.000 Yeah, the whole...

02:30:01.000 It seems like it's everywhere, the cuties thing.

02:30:04.000 That's more complicated than cuties.

02:30:06.000 Cuties is...

02:30:07.000 Here's something crazy.

02:30:08.000 There was a story in Atlanta where these guys had rescued 39 kids from sex slavery. 0.99

02:30:16.000 I didn't hear a fucking word of that. 0.99

02:30:17.000 No, nobody heard about this. 0.99

02:30:18.000 I saw a hundred articles about Ellen being mean. 0.98

02:30:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:30:22.000 A hundred.

02:30:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:30:24.000 And I didn't see more than one, one day, in and out of the news about these 39 kids that were rescued.

02:30:30.000 Yeah, that's another one that is really, I was in a rest stop, it was like a truck stop on the way here, and they had the signs, you know, it's like, are you being human trafficked?

02:30:41.000 And they're in rest stops across America.

02:30:44.000 And it's like, are you working against your will?

02:30:46.000 Are you being forced to do sex?

02:30:48.000 I was like, shouldn't this be in like three other languages?

02:30:50.000 Well, there was a story recently about a flight attendant.

02:30:53.000 And there was a man on a flight with a young girl.

02:30:57.000 And the young girl wrote a letter and left it in the bathroom.

02:31:02.000 And the flight attendant got the letter and recognized...

02:31:04.000 That something was going.

02:31:05.000 She was making eye contact with the kid.

02:31:07.000 She knew something was wrong.

02:31:08.000 And then upon landing, they had police waiting.

02:31:12.000 Oh, wow.

02:31:12.000 Yeah.

02:31:13.000 Yeah, so it's, I mean, that's another one where...

02:31:16.000 It's real.

02:31:17.000 Yeah, it's a real problem.

02:31:18.000 Yeah.

02:31:18.000 Human trafficking and sex trafficking is crazy.

02:31:21.000 Terrifying. 0.71

02:31:22.000 Yeah.

02:31:22.000 And crazy and hideous and odious and all of the worst things in the world.

02:31:29.000 But then you have cuties, which is like, what are you doing?

02:31:32.000 What are they doing?

02:31:33.000 I know I've seen the argument. 0.98

02:31:35.000 Explain to people who don't know what the fuck Cuties is. 0.94

02:31:37.000 So Cuties is that it's a movie on Netflix. 0.98

02:31:39.000 It's a foreign film.

02:31:41.000 I believe the director is French.

02:31:44.000 Is she French? 0.53

02:31:46.000 Yes, I was looking at the Atlanta thing.

02:31:48.000 Oh, that's alright.

02:31:49.000 I just don't know that I'm correct about that.

02:31:52.000 And it's supposed to be a movie about the hyper-sexualization and exploitation of young girls. 0.58

02:32:01.000 Critics of Cutie say the Netflix film hyper-sexualizes a pre-teen dance troupe, but director said Monday that she is fighting the same fight, in quotes, they are, to stop the exploitation of young girls.

02:32:15.000 So the way she stops it is by sexualizing them. 1.00

02:32:18.000 Well, I guess that...

02:32:21.000 Try saying her name.

02:32:23.000 Say that name.

02:32:27.000 Maimona Ducouré.

02:32:30.000 Quick question.

02:32:31.000 Yes.

02:32:32.000 Do you remember the movie Kids?

02:32:33.000 Yeah.

02:32:34.000 I do.

02:32:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:32:35.000 That was a pretty fucked up movie. 0.99

02:32:36.000 Yeah, that movie's fucked up. 1.00

02:32:37.000 That was about kids being wild and it was an actual movie about real kids. 1.00

02:32:41.000 Yeah, but he's fucked up. 1.00

02:32:43.000 That director is fucked up. 1.00

02:32:44.000 Yeah, that director is really fucked up. 1.00

02:32:45.000 There's another movie called 13, about two 13-year-old girls a couple years ago. 1.00

02:32:49.000 And they were taking ecstasy and doing all sorts of wild shit. 0.96

02:32:50.000 But the thing about kids is kids was a documentary. 0.99

02:32:53.000 No, it wasn't.

02:32:53.000 Those are all actors.

02:32:54.000 Those are all actors.

02:32:55.000 Wait, am I thinking of the same movie?

02:32:56.000 Yeah.

02:32:59.000 But wasn't there one that was a documentary?

02:33:01.000 It was filmed a little bit like a documentary, but it wasn't.

02:33:04.000 Oh, that's right.

02:33:06.000 It starts with sex right out of the opening scene.

02:33:09.000 What year is that?

02:33:10.000 I got rented it from the library when I was in seventh grade, sixth grade.

02:33:15.000 Yeah, I was young too. 0.99

02:33:17.000 Okay, I fucked up. 0.99

02:33:19.000 I thought that was a documentary. 0.99

02:33:20.000 That guy, yeah. 0.99

02:33:23.000 But it got a lot of shit when it came out, didn't it? 0.99

02:33:25.000 I feel like it was... 0.99

02:33:26.000 I think I never saw it, and I think it was out pre-internet.

02:33:31.000 Oh, definitely pre-internet.

02:33:32.000 Probably 94, 95, something like that. 0.99

02:33:34.000 Yeah, it was fucked up. 0.99

02:33:36.000 The director has done a lot of other sketchy shit, right? 1.00

02:33:41.000 What other movies has he done? 0.99

02:33:43.000 Gummo was the other big one.

02:33:45.000 Oh, that was a weird one.

02:33:47.000 95, yeah.

02:33:49.000 Made 20 million bucks.

02:33:50.000 Hollow.

02:33:53.000 Yeah, but I wonder what the...

02:33:55.000 I remember, I feel like that was pretty controversial.

02:33:59.000 Do you remember the movie, was it called Happy?

02:34:01.000 Mm-mm.

02:34:02.000 Is that it? 0.99

02:34:03.000 There was a really fucking weird movie about this kid who finds out that their dad is a pedophile. 0.99

02:34:09.000 Oh, God, that would be horrible. 0.99

02:34:11.000 Yeah, and the guy is...

02:34:12.000 I think it's happiness.

02:34:15.000 And the guy is kind of normalized in the movie.

02:34:19.000 And it's like the kid is trying to...

02:34:21.000 My friends and I got into this on Twitter about the cuties thing and you know, I don't know that those girls are old enough to decide to do that film. 1.00

02:34:33.000 They're not.

02:34:34.000 Some of the warnings on it and stuff, I don't even want to watch it.

02:34:41.000 I probably should, but I don't really want to.

02:34:47.000 Whatever, it just seems...

02:34:49.000 I don't think it's necessarily Netflix's problem.

02:34:55.000 It seems more like a societal problem that we have.

02:34:59.000 Wait a minute.

02:34:59.000 It's Netflix's problem to have it on their network.

02:35:01.000 They have it on their network, but it's like this writer Jane Koston said.

02:35:06.000 It's like the thing adjacent.

02:35:10.000 She was like, has anyone been to a dance recital?

02:35:12.000 Because I was talking about like...

02:35:13.000 Have you ever been to dance recitals? 0.99

02:35:15.000 We had to do some fucked up shit when we were young kids. 1.00

02:35:18.000 Dress up in the black and do the addicted to love and leotards and red lipstick. 1.00

02:35:25.000 And I was little doing these dances.

02:35:28.000 JonBenet? 0.99

02:35:29.000 That's a whole fucking weird world. 0.98

02:35:31.000 Joey Diaz and I were in Dallas once, and we were staying at this hotel. 0.99

02:35:35.000 We were doing the Addison Improv.

02:35:37.000 We were staying at this hotel where they had one of those things going on in the hotel.

02:35:41.000 So there was a child beauty pageant in the hotel.

02:35:44.000 Yeah, they're weird. 0.99

02:35:44.000 It was fucking bizarre. 0.99

02:35:46.000 They're weird. 0.99

02:35:46.000 It's one thing to see it on TV, but to see five-year-olds in pumps with full makeup and blown-out hair. 0.99

02:35:52.000 Remember this from Bad Grandpa with the giant Knoxville movie a couple years ago?

02:35:55.000 He had picked up his grandson, and it was fake, but they were also pranking people, so it's not really fake.

02:36:02.000 They dressed up like a little girl, and they went and did this whole thing, and she starts doing that crazy dance and freaking everybody out.

02:36:09.000 It's actually a little boy, if I remember correctly.

02:36:10.000 That's right.

02:36:11.000 This stuff is in our culture already, and I think that's more...

02:36:18.000 Cuties aside and whatever. 0.99

02:36:19.000 But that kind of shit with little kids and those baby beauty pageants, whoever greenlit that? 1.00

02:36:26.000 Who's like, yeah, it looks good. 1.00

02:36:28.000 Short skirt, stick your ass out. 1.00

02:36:30.000 Nice. 0.99

02:36:31.000 High heels.

02:36:32.000 Way to go.

02:36:32.000 Yeah, it's weird.

02:36:33.000 Who said yes to that?

02:36:34.000 So that's my, I guess my point is not necessarily, my feelings about cutie are just from what I've seen.

02:36:40.000 I'm like, no.

02:36:41.000 But I also think that this is in our culture and we need to examine that. 0.82

02:36:46.000 That this like the beauty pageants and the you know and it's funny because I'll be like oh QAnon is crazy and not everything is about pedophilia and then you see a cuties you know preview and you're like oh maybe there are tunnels under what what is it my friend said she's like my brother said there are tunnels there are tunnels under the Getty or some shit for human trafficking I don't think that's true, 0.98

02:37:15.000 but there was a fuck island that was real. 0.97

02:37:18.000 And the fact that prominent politicians, well, he went 26 times, not a lot of times. 0.99

02:37:24.000 Wow, you do a really great impression. 0.99

02:37:26.000 There's another fuck island? 1.00

02:37:27.000 North Fox Island. 0.99

02:37:29.000 Oh, I was never there.

02:37:30.000 Michigan in the 70s.

02:37:31.000 Oh, really?

02:37:32.000 Mm-hmm.

02:37:33.000 Well, there was a way darker story.

02:37:35.000 Oh, God.

02:37:36.000 Way darker?

02:37:37.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:38.000 How can it get darker than Epstein?

02:37:39.000 I had to, like...

02:37:41.000 It was all videotaped, and that's what...

02:37:42.000 I mean, that's what I was looking for.

02:37:43.000 Have you seen the documentary?

02:37:44.000 Well, when Epstein killed himself, case closed.

02:37:47.000 I mean, as far as I'm concerned.

02:37:49.000 Wow, you really do a great Phil Clinton impression.

02:37:52.000 I was watching the documentary.

02:37:53.000 He's a good guy.

02:37:53.000 He had a nice plane.

02:37:54.000 You know the fucked up realization I had watching that documentary is that I would have been one of Epstein's girls. 0.98

02:38:00.000 Oh, right? 1.00

02:38:01.000 I was a fucked up 17 year old doing drugs. 0.99

02:38:03.000 What does it say, Jamie? 0.99

02:38:05.000 Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking young girls on his mysterious private island over 40 years ago.

02:38:10.000 A different millionaire escaped justice in a stunningly similar case.

02:38:15.000 I had a conversation with Eric Weinstein about this, and he had a very, I think, accurate perception of it.

02:38:24.000 He said, I believe there are people who help curate experiences for high-profile people who can't get these on their own.

02:38:34.000 Because it's too dangerous.

02:38:36.000 And then someone comes along and normalizes it and lets you know, it's okay, I gotcha, and everything's fine, and this is how we do it.

02:38:42.000 And that this person, in Epstein's case, turns out to be intelligence.

02:38:46.000 And that was the...

02:38:49.000 That was the accusation.

02:38:51.000 Who was the prosecutor that had to release him?

02:38:54.000 Acosta.

02:38:55.000 What's his name?

02:38:56.000 Acosta.

02:38:57.000 He was told it was above his pay grade and that this man was intelligence.

02:39:01.000 And so he had to let him go because he was a part of the intelligence community.

02:39:04.000 So someone told him to let this guy go.

02:39:07.000 What?

02:39:07.000 Yeah, and so when he got arrested the first time, he got a ridiculous sentence where he had to go back to his house.

02:39:13.000 He only had to be in jail during the day.

02:39:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:39:16.000 Or he had to be in jail at night and then had to be at his house during the day because he was working.

02:39:20.000 Remember this thing, too?

02:39:21.000 This came out two years ago?

02:39:23.000 That's right.

02:39:24.000 Sasha Baron Cohen says he turned over disturbing Who Is America?

02:39:27.000 footage of the FBI. Cohen says his show nearly helped the FBI expose a pedophile ring in Las Vegas.

02:39:33.000 They're doing what you're talking about.

02:39:34.000 Yeah.

02:39:35.000 Providing experience.

02:39:35.000 Someone was saying, look, we can help you.

02:39:38.000 We can get you these things.

02:39:38.000 Oh, God.

02:39:39.000 And this is what's terrifying. 0.62

02:39:40.000 What's terrifying is that if there can be an island that is literally curated and run by an intelligence agent who's bringing in prominent Celebrities and politicians and even scientists from all over the world to this place where they're having sex with underage girls and we all know about it. 0.72

02:39:58.000 And then the guy gets killed and then, oh, he just hung himself.

02:40:03.000 Oh, he hung himself?

02:40:04.000 Yeah.

02:40:04.000 And then you get a Michael Baden, who's a famous autopsy doctor, says, no, these injuries are inconsistent with hanging and they're very consistent with someone being strangled in the position that he's choked on.

02:40:16.000 It's not where someone has ligature marks if they're Yeah, all the things that point to the fact that he was murdered.

02:40:22.000 And months later, like...

02:40:24.000 Anyway.

02:40:25.000 Whatever.

02:40:26.000 Hey.

02:40:26.000 24-hour news cycle.

02:40:27.000 Donald Trump's a bad person. 0.98

02:40:29.000 We need to get rid of him. 0.99

02:40:30.000 Keeps moving.

02:40:31.000 And meanwhile, Ghislaine, she doesn't even go to trial until October?

02:40:36.000 Yeah.

02:40:37.000 Is she even arrested? 0.92

02:40:39.000 Where is she at?

02:40:39.000 Yeah, where is she?

02:40:40.000 Oh, where is that lady? 1.00

02:40:41.000 Is this the story that went away?

02:40:42.000 No, it's so weird how it just all gets like...

02:40:44.000 She was in a house in New Hampshire waiting.

02:40:47.000 Magically disappears.

02:40:48.000 By herself, chopping wood.

02:40:51.000 Just waiting.

02:40:52.000 Like, what are you doing?

02:40:53.000 Like, they arrested her in a house in New Hampshire.

02:40:56.000 She bought a house, like, in the woods.

02:40:58.000 She thought she could just be out there.

02:41:00.000 Didn't even change her hairstyle. 0.85

02:41:01.000 Oh, wow.

02:41:02.000 How about when she was on...

02:41:03.000 They took pictures of her at In-N-Out, reading a book about CIA agents who have been killed.

02:41:10.000 Oh, my God.

02:41:11.000 Remember that?

02:41:12.000 You ever seen that?

02:41:13.000 No.

02:41:13.000 She had a photo shoot.

02:41:14.000 Oh, my God.

02:41:14.000 At In-N-Out in L.A. Yeah, there was a photo shoot where she was still on the loose after Jeffrey Epstein was killed, where she was like sending messages to people.

02:41:23.000 So here she is, like clearly posing, and the book, powerful In-N-Out commercial, by the way, made people hungry.

02:41:31.000 Yeah, it was posed so you could see the book, and the book was about CIA agents who've been killed.

02:41:40.000 You can see the book spine on one of these pictures.

02:41:44.000 There's many pictures.

02:41:47.000 They did a lot of sleuthing to figure out there's terrible photoshopping done on the photo.

02:41:52.000 Is there?

02:41:53.000 Yeah, that's like that.

02:41:54.000 So this photo was taken at a time that like there's this Good Boys movie was a Seth Rogen movie that came out.

02:42:01.000 If she was there, that would have been like this week.

02:42:03.000 And they looked in that company and said they never actually had that poster there.

02:42:05.000 But that looks like it was actually there.

02:42:07.000 So there's a lot of confusion around why this even happened.

02:42:10.000 Wow.

02:42:12.000 Is that in the lower right hand corner?

02:42:13.000 Is that showing what the book is where the arrows are pointing?

02:42:16.000 That's where she sat.

02:42:17.000 Someone went to that in and out.

02:42:18.000 Oh, that's where she sat.

02:42:20.000 Where's the book?

02:42:21.000 I'm trying to find it.

02:42:22.000 It's so messed up.

02:42:23.000 It's so crazy.

02:42:25.000 I had to stop watching the documentary because it's as dark as it gets.

02:42:30.000 How about when they ask Trump about it?

02:42:32.000 He's like, I wish her well.

02:42:35.000 I wish her good luck.

02:42:36.000 Is it very unfortunate?

02:42:40.000 Are you saying you wish the lady who's accused of sex trafficking, underage girls, you wish her luck? 0.99

02:42:47.000 You wish her well?

02:42:48.000 All these guys are...

02:42:49.000 All of them... 0.99

02:42:50.000 That, like, level of being is so gross. 1.00

02:42:54.000 I feel like everyone in that fucking circle is disgusting. 1.00

02:42:58.000 Well, and I think back then you could be disgusting and there wasn't any consequences for it. 1.00

02:43:04.000 You know, when you think of...

02:43:07.000 What it must have been like to be a politician like in the Kennedy days.

02:43:12.000 Right.

02:43:13.000 Just open lane.

02:43:15.000 You can just do whatever you want.

02:43:17.000 No cars on the road.

02:43:17.000 Nobody does anything.

02:43:18.000 Nobody tells you to stop.

02:43:19.000 Nope.

02:43:20.000 You can do whatever you wanted. 1.00

02:43:21.000 Getting your dick sucked in the pool. 1.00

02:43:23.000 Yeah, you could do that while people were watching. 1.00

02:43:25.000 Yeah.

02:43:26.000 Like, no one cared.

02:43:26.000 Yeah.

02:43:27.000 Now it's...

02:43:28.000 Crazy.

02:43:29.000 Like, the press would not talk about his affairs that they all knew. 0.53

02:43:34.000 Yeah.

02:43:34.000 It was like a...

02:43:35.000 How amazing.

02:43:36.000 Yeah.

02:43:37.000 What a strange shifting of attitudes.

02:43:41.000 Yeah.

02:43:41.000 And how did that ever exist in the first place?

02:43:43.000 If you're the press, and literally your whole job is to tell stories, and you've got this crazy story that you keep it under wraps...

02:43:50.000 I see it all the time, though.

02:43:52.000 I see it all the time.

02:43:54.000 But the Kennedy thing wasn't even a good cover.

02:43:57.000 Remember when Marilyn Monroe sang at his birthday party?

02:43:59.000 Yeah, but every time someone gets Me Too'd, Everyone's like, eh, we knew about it.

02:44:06.000 And I don't know if it's just industries protect their own.

02:44:11.000 Everyone in the industry is like, eh, I kind of knew that was coming.

02:44:14.000 You'll hear these stories of...

02:44:17.000 I just feel like it might be like politicians, they protect each other.

02:44:23.000 I feel like in every industry, whenever somebody gets outed, there's some sense of like, eh.

02:44:30.000 Maybe.

02:44:31.000 Maybe.

02:44:33.000 Well, when the Kennedy thing was happening, what's really fascinating is if you apply that same logic and thought to his assassination, no wonder why there's so many conspiracy theories.

02:44:44.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:44:44.000 Because if the intelligence community really decided to whack him and you don't think they could have got away with it, he's fucking people left and right. 0.96

02:44:52.000 Documented. 0.99

02:44:53.000 And he got away with that.

02:44:54.000 Documented.

02:44:55.000 Yeah.

02:44:55.000 Yeah, documented.

02:44:56.000 That's the problem I have with it.

02:44:57.000 Not just him.

02:44:58.000 A lot of people back then.

02:44:59.000 Yeah.

02:45:00.000 MLK. There was a whole thing written about him the other day.

02:45:03.000 Yeah.

02:45:04.000 But this idea that they could have never gotten away with his murder because people would have talked.

02:45:08.000 Like, no, people didn't talk about anything back then.

02:45:11.000 No, they didn't.

02:45:11.000 Of course they could have got away with his murder.

02:45:13.000 And especially if you think they're going to kill you. 0.99

02:45:16.000 And then if you go and look at how many people who are witnesses who did wind up dying in really suspicious ways, it's fucking bonkers. 0.99

02:45:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.95

02:45:25.000 People that were there for the Kennedy assassination that wound up dying. 0.95

02:45:29.000 It's nuts.

02:45:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:45:30.000 It's nuts how many of them, like, committed suicide, parked their car in front of a train, like, all that kind of shit. 1.00

02:45:36.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:45:37.000 Yeah.

02:45:38.000 I think that there's...

02:45:39.000 The whole world was dark back then.

02:45:41.000 It was dark.

02:45:42.000 I think it's always been dark.

02:45:43.000 Yeah.

02:45:43.000 But, I mean, I think, like, this whole sex trafficking thing, this seedy underbelly of the world thing, I think back then it was way worse.

02:45:52.000 Probably.

02:45:52.000 And I think there was no way of exposing it.

02:45:55.000 Well, yeah, they all just got whacked, I think.

02:45:57.000 Yeah, and I think it was like a normal, it was probably, like when you think of things like Skull and Bones and all these weird little clubs and these secret societies.

02:46:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:46:08.000 Remember when Kennedy, did you ever hear that Kennedy speech about secret societies?

02:46:12.000 No.

02:46:13.000 Never heard it? 0.89

02:46:14.000 Oh my god, he talked about how secret societies are repugnant.

02:46:17.000 This is before he was murdered.

02:46:18.000 You know, Kennedy was, like, vehemently against the CIA and the NSA and all this, and he made this public speech about secret societies.

02:46:28.000 What does it say?

02:46:28.000 The President and the Press Addressed for the American Newspaper.

02:46:31.000 You can play that.

02:46:32.000 Weird accent.

02:46:33.000 See if you can play it because it's really powerful to hear his voice and to know that this guy...

02:46:38.000 And then he got killed?

02:46:39.000 Yes.

02:46:40.000 Well, listen, there's a lot of reasons to think that he was probably killed by the intelligence community.

02:46:46.000 Oh, that's us.

02:46:47.000 We talked about it.

02:46:48.000 We talked about it.

02:46:50.000 It's already up.

02:46:51.000 You can go watch episode 1400 with Tony Hinchcliffe.

02:46:55.000 Yeah.

02:46:56.000 I had...

02:46:56.000 The Golden Pony.

02:46:57.000 It's a bizarre...

02:46:58.000 Here, listen to that, though.

02:46:59.000 It's very bizarre.

02:47:01.000 It's a very bizarre statement because...

02:47:04.000 Why?

02:47:05.000 Would you make it?

02:47:07.000 Today...

02:47:07.000 Well...

02:47:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.

02:47:15.000 And we are, as a people, inherently and historically...

02:47:19.000 Opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.

02:47:25.000 We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

02:47:37.000 Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.

02:47:47.000 Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.

02:47:56.000 And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

02:48:10.000 He's trying to warn us about exactly what's happening.

02:48:15.000 Patriot Act 2. He's trying to warn us.

02:48:16.000 Edward Snowden hiding in Russia.

02:48:18.000 Trying to warn us.

02:48:19.000 He really was.

02:48:20.000 Yeah.

02:48:20.000 He really was.

02:48:21.000 We didn't listen.

02:48:22.000 They killed him instead. 0.99

02:48:23.000 They whacked that dude. 0.99

02:48:24.000 We did listen.

02:48:25.000 We listened. 1.00

02:48:25.000 We know now to shut our fucking mouths. 1.00

02:48:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:48:27.000 We're both going to be dead in 24 hours. 1.00

02:48:30.000 Well, then you get away with more shit back then, just like everybody else. 1.00

02:48:33.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:48:33.000 I mean, it's a weird time because some of this stuff, you know, I have very conflicting feelings about some of this stuff. 0.97

02:48:42.000 I think it's good that a lot of light's being shined on it.

02:48:45.000 I also hate that people don't get due process.

02:48:50.000 We live in a very strange time for this where, great, more stuff is being revealed, although we seem to forget the stuff that's actually proven, like Epstein, in five minutes.

02:49:01.000 And then there's stuff that's not, you know, people are being destroyed and have no access to due process or anything, and there's no way to defend themselves.

02:49:13.000 Well, the stunning thing about the Epstein thing is that the mainstream media has let it go.

02:49:16.000 Yeah, completely.

02:49:16.000 You would think that, and they barely even really covered it.

02:49:20.000 It wasn't even something that I... They had to.

02:49:22.000 It's almost like they covered it like there was a cursory mention.

02:49:25.000 Yeah.

02:49:25.000 Like they had to.

02:49:26.000 They had to mention it, otherwise they'd be complicit, right?

02:49:28.000 Yeah.

02:49:29.000 Yeah, it's a weird...

02:49:31.000 That seems like it should be a way bigger deal and be much more covered and investigated.

02:49:38.000 And thank God for those amazing reporters down in Florida who did all that investigative journalism.

02:49:43.000 The woman, I can't remember her name, but she... 1.00

02:49:45.000 She's really responsible for staying on that beat.

02:49:49.000 I think this is why I feel...

02:49:53.000 Even in LA during the riots, the local journalism was amazing.

02:49:58.000 They were doing great work.

02:49:59.000 They were on the ground.

02:50:00.000 They were interviewing people in real time.

02:50:02.000 Part of the reason I see so...

02:50:04.000 I hate all the division and all of the...

02:50:07.000 It's like that death of local journalism, which has contributed to so much of just...

02:50:12.000 Nobody really knows anything.

02:50:15.000 Well, I've been real forgiving of people writing clickbaity articles.

02:50:19.000 Yeah.

02:50:19.000 And one of the reasons why I tell people, like, journalists are fighting for their life right now.

02:50:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:50:23.000 Like, they're very important to me.

02:50:24.000 It's very important to me that there's people that are willing to get the word out.

02:50:28.000 Yeah.

02:50:28.000 And willing to explain what's happening.

02:50:30.000 And some of them are forced to write some bullshit articles with clickbaity titles because they have to stay alive because no one is buying newspapers. 0.97

02:50:39.000 No, and it's not... 0.98

02:50:42.000 Generally, it's usually a calling.

02:50:44.000 I think my true journalists, they're usually called to do it.

02:50:48.000 They can't let go of a story.

02:50:49.000 They want to find my biggest, again, this is another weird issue, place where we're in is, I call it journalism, and it's activism masking as journalism.

02:50:59.000 And that is where I feel like the press is, this is where they're losing their credibility because they're not being honest.

02:51:09.000 Right.

02:51:09.000 There's no one—well, there are some, but there's very few who are unbiased, who are just telling you the facts.

02:51:14.000 Well, they are.

02:51:14.000 They're mostly working in local journalism at rags that are being canceled, bought out, bought up by bigger things.

02:51:21.000 And so you have the people who are kind of activists, and they're journalists, they're practicing journalism, and that's damaging— To all journalists because now you're undermining what your job is to do,

02:51:37.000 which is present facts and present evidence and chase down leads and not have your own opinion about things.

02:51:48.000 Discover something as more evidence is presented to you and always be checking yourself.

02:51:54.000 Well, my hope is that through this, independent sources will emerge.

02:51:58.000 Like you're seeing that with some independent political sources.

02:52:01.000 Like you're seeing whether it's the Jimmy Dore show or Kyle Kalinske or Rising on the Hill.

02:52:07.000 All these people that are not beholden to any one party that are talking about politics.

02:52:11.000 I'm hoping we're going to see that with everything.

02:52:13.000 And that these people with these biased perceptions and, you know, journalism, as you call it, which is a great word.

02:52:30.000 I think this is why people are so confused right now and lost.

02:52:37.000 And I hear this from these letters I'm getting, letters from the politically homeless.

02:52:42.000 What happens a lot is they'll get red-pilled by the mainstream media.

02:52:46.000 I think Malice talks a lot about this and just recognizing the idea of the cathedral.

02:52:51.000 Michael Malice?

02:52:51.000 Yeah, he's great.

02:52:52.000 Brilliant.

02:52:53.000 And just the idea of the cathedral that isn't his idea, and I can't remember who he always attributes it to.

02:52:59.000 And realizing there's a narrative and there's an agenda that's being pushed.

02:53:04.000 And once they open their eyes and see that, there's not much of a stop on the way to, and now why isn't Biden fighting against Petalwood?

02:53:15.000 You know, there's like a...

02:53:16.000 You're just like, suddenly you're like mainlining.

02:53:19.000 You've gone from taking a red pill to like snorting them and mainlining it.

02:53:24.000 And now you're queuing on.

02:53:26.000 Because I'll hear these people who start out very reasonable, like, oh, the left got crazy.

02:53:31.000 I got a little disillusioned.

02:53:33.000 I started going down the rabbit hole and then...

02:53:35.000 There's really not much, because people don't know what to believe.

02:53:39.000 All of the confusion, oh, you can protest, you can't protest, you can wear masks, you can't wear masks.

02:53:44.000 There's no credibility.

02:53:46.000 Every system, and this is generally in societies when you see this kind of breakdown of society, is when people lose faith in the people who are governing them, the experts.

02:53:58.000 You have epidemiologists who are like, Racism is the real virus.

02:54:04.000 That's not the way viruses work. 0.99

02:54:06.000 When you're saying these things as a scientist, how are you expecting people to take you seriously when they've stopped their fucking lives for you? 0.98

02:54:15.000 Did you see what the UN's quote was about the pandemic? 0.99

02:54:19.000 That it revealed that the patriarchy is a gigantic problem?

02:54:23.000 The patriarchy.

02:54:24.000 They were blaming it on the patriarchy.

02:54:26.000 And you have all of these institutions that are falling in line with us.

02:54:31.000 So people are stumbling in the wilderness, and then they're online.

02:54:35.000 And then they're virtue signaling, and then they're in these echo chambers, and then they're going to war with anybody who disagrees, and then they're demanding compliance.

02:54:43.000 But it's easy for people. 0.99

02:54:45.000 The thing that concerns me is if you are a person, you know, I have to check in with myself when I'm like, if I feel like I'm saying, fuck you, I'm voting for Trump. 0.99

02:54:54.000 Like, that is being radicalized. 0.99

02:54:58.000 You know, that is the process of radicalization happening.

02:55:01.000 I understand it.

02:55:02.000 It's something that I can...

02:55:04.000 It's a lot of people doing it.

02:55:04.000 But it's completely emotional.

02:55:06.000 If you're like, this guy is...

02:55:08.000 For some people, it's not.

02:55:09.000 Some people think that what's more dangerous than anything is woke politics.

02:55:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:55:15.000 That's Tim Pool.

02:55:15.000 Tim Pool is like, the media's lying to us.

02:55:18.000 They're gaslighting us. 0.99

02:55:20.000 And I think that this whole woke bullshit is more dangerous than anything. 0.99

02:55:24.000 And he's gone like full MAGA. But see, that is something that I would check in with myself about. 0.99

02:55:33.000 Because if you were here, and now you're here, I understand.

02:55:39.000 And I think this is why we live in one of the most interesting times in American history ever, because there's so much migration, literal migration.

02:55:47.000 You sitting here is a perfect example of that.

02:55:50.000 And political migration, ideological migration.

02:55:53.000 My inbox is evidence of this.

02:55:56.000 People from the center going left to right.

02:55:58.000 People from the right coming left.

02:55:59.000 People from the left coming right.

02:56:01.000 It's fascinating.

02:56:02.000 I mean, it's going to be studied for hundreds of years if we have a future.

02:56:07.000 You're totally right.

02:56:08.000 You're totally right.

02:56:08.000 It's just a fascinating time in our history and I think that people, we have to give each other space to realign a little bit, but what is worrisome to me is in the absence of anyone to trust,

02:56:25.000 So many journalists have abdicated their role. 1.00

02:56:30.000 Many politicians are all just shit, basically. 1.00

02:56:34.000 Sending a populist message to the people. 1.00

02:56:38.000 I don't understand the worship at all.

02:56:41.000 In the absence of all of this, where do people turn?

02:56:44.000 They're turning to people like you, for instance, because you're willing to have conversations with many different kinds of people across the spectrum so they can maybe...

02:56:56.000 In order to read the news now, I'll see a headline.

02:57:00.000 If it confirms my bias, I'm like, I better double-check that.

02:57:03.000 Yeah, that's good. 1.00

02:57:04.000 I immediately am like, okay, double check that shit. 1.00

02:57:06.000 But that's because you're smart. 0.99

02:57:08.000 But this is how everyone should consume the news, but I understand why they don't, because it's like, okay, and then I read a quote.

02:57:14.000 Well, that was...

02:57:14.000 Now I have to go listen to the whole...

02:57:16.000 Okay, that was completely taken out of context.

02:57:18.000 Now they're citing a study. 1.00

02:57:20.000 Now I have to go read the fucking study. 0.99

02:57:22.000 I end up with all the... 0.98

02:57:24.000 Go to all the source material.

02:57:25.000 You have to just go to the source material, always.

02:57:28.000 But that takes...

02:57:29.000 It'll take me an hour to read one article and figure out what's actually true in that article.

02:57:34.000 No one has that time.

02:57:35.000 It's easier to be like, I hate this!

02:57:37.000 Exactly.

02:57:38.000 Mad!

02:57:39.000 Yeah.

02:57:39.000 That's what most people do.

02:57:41.000 They find something that confirms their bias and then they read only those things that exist in their little echo chamber.

02:57:47.000 But you should be seeking things that push against your bias.

02:57:51.000 I was having a conversation with a person, a person, a friend of mine, a person.

02:57:55.000 A person experiencing homelessness?

02:57:56.000 A friend of mine who happens to be a person.

02:57:58.000 Houselessness?

02:57:59.000 No, the unhoused.

02:58:00.000 The unhoused.

02:58:02.000 Sounds like a horror movie.

02:58:03.000 She was asking me about UFOs and I said, my main problem with UFOs is that I want to believe.

02:58:09.000 Yeah.

02:58:10.000 My main problem with all this evidence, like it seems real, it seems real, it seems real, but the problem is I want to believe.

02:58:15.000 Right.

02:58:15.000 And whenever I want something to be real, I go, ooh.

02:58:18.000 Let's probably double check that.

02:58:20.000 Yeah, you have to. 1.00

02:58:21.000 You mindfuck yourself. 1.00

02:58:22.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:58:23.000 That's the right way to, that's how you can avoid making an ass out of yourself online and sharing something that's not real. 0.85

02:58:30.000 Yep.

02:58:30.000 Pretty much video, I will not share it.

02:58:33.000 I see so much video getting shared by people who are independent journalists that is cut weird, it's edited weird, it's not true.

02:58:43.000 Everybody on the internet, I always make fun of this on Dumpster Fire.

02:58:46.000 I hate this new season of Law& Order where there's a murder every day in real time and then the internet is like a sleuth figuring it out.

02:58:55.000 They're breaking it down frame by frame.

02:58:57.000 See, this is...

02:58:58.000 Like, thanks, guys.

02:58:59.000 Like, the police on the ground and detectives probably have this handled.

02:59:03.000 Thank you for your...

02:59:04.000 Well, sometimes, though, they do find people.

02:59:06.000 Like, that guy, before he did the interview with Vice and exposed that he's the one who killed the MAGA supporter, they found him.

02:59:14.000 They found him because of a tattoo on his neck, and they had identified him.

02:59:18.000 People just randos that were looking at photos.

02:59:21.000 Sleuthin' online?

02:59:21.000 Sleuthin'.

02:59:22.000 They actually found them.

02:59:23.000 No, but I believe that there's some use in that, but it just seems like there's also probably more misinformation that gets spread that way than actual facts.

02:59:34.000 And it's that old quote, like, the lie spreads faster than the truth around the world before the truth gets out of bed or whatever.

02:59:42.000 A lie will go around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

02:59:46.000 That's true.

02:59:47.000 And in this kind of environment, and then everybody is... 0.93

02:59:51.000 And then you've got Russian troll farms and Chinese troll farms.

02:59:55.000 Yeah, then you have Russian logging in at 9am. 0.94

02:59:56.000 Oh my god, it's madness.

02:59:57.000 I love it.

02:59:58.000 And I don't know where it ends.

03:00:00.000 There's no map of the territory at this point.

03:00:03.000 But it starts with us.

03:00:04.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:00:05.000 It starts with the individual.

03:00:07.000 It starts with people...

03:00:08.000 I think?

03:00:26.000 Kicking drugs and alcohol.

03:00:27.000 All the craziness that you've gotten through.

03:00:30.000 That's what's led you to be this critical thinker that you are today.

03:00:33.000 And this strong person.

03:00:34.000 The problem is we're asking people to be strong when they're not.

03:00:37.000 We're asking people who are right now who they are is not capable of doing these things we're asking them to do.

03:00:44.000 Why though?

03:00:44.000 Because of all the experiences they've had in their life.

03:00:47.000 That's no excuse.

03:00:47.000 No, no, no.

03:00:48.000 It is not an excuse, but it is a fact.

03:00:51.000 Like, who they are, they're so accustomed to behaving and thinking in a certain way that it takes a radical shift to rethink this.

03:00:59.000 And they can do that.

03:01:02.000 They can act in that way and rethink the way they live their life, but they have to be severely motivated.

03:01:07.000 Right.

03:01:08.000 To change is so hard.

03:01:10.000 Well, and then there's so much, you know, so say you are, say you radically shift your ideology online.

03:01:17.000 And I've experienced this just not in shifting my ideology, just not censoring.

03:01:23.000 Then you get swept up with all the likes from It's reinforced with dopamine of like, oh, if I say this thing, this thing does well.

03:01:32.000 And that's, again, asking a lot for people to work against.

03:01:36.000 You have to actively be like, okay, now what am I not saying?

03:01:40.000 Again, because I'm worried I might piss off my new audience who's embraced me.

03:01:44.000 I would ask anybody who's gone from the left to To fully to the right.

03:01:49.000 Like, what are you not saying now about things that you're noticing on your new team that you've joined?

03:01:55.000 This is a weird thing when people do completely, as a grown adult, shift their ideology.

03:01:59.000 I'm always like, oh, did ya?

03:02:02.000 Oh, did ya?

03:02:03.000 Or were you always wishy-washy? 1.00

03:02:05.000 Were you always full of shit? 1.00

03:02:06.000 And to be rigid one way or the other is just so strange. 1.00

03:02:10.000 Yeah.

03:02:10.000 It's so strange.

03:02:12.000 Yeah, I guess I can attribute my shift to paying attention and being thrown into the culture war and I don't even feel like my actual values have changed so much as the culture has changed around me.

03:02:27.000 Most of what I believe about free speech, rights, the right to have jobs and work how you want to, which I push back against all the time in California, what they're doing there.

03:02:39.000 You know how they fight that gig society?

03:02:42.000 I told you about it the last time I was here.

03:02:44.000 They had a fight with it about stand-up comics.

03:02:46.000 They were trying to include stand-up comics in it.

03:02:48.000 The comedy store actually was at the head of that.

03:02:50.000 Yeah, they actually fought and won and got comics reclassified.

03:02:55.000 But there was an issue where certain people were not going to get booked because these arenas, these venues, rather, were going to have to employ them.

03:03:03.000 And they're like, we can't afford to give you health insurance if you do a... 1.00

03:03:06.000 Fucking stupid one-woman show here. 1.00

03:03:07.000 They're trying to pass a national version of this called the PRO Act. 1.00

03:03:11.000 Who's trying to do this?

03:03:12.000 The Democrats.

03:03:13.000 They already passed the House.

03:03:15.000 That's so crazy.

03:03:16.000 And it essentially would categorize independent contracting and it would give it the same label that it has in California under AB5. And that's people like you who write articles for a bunch of different publications.

03:03:28.000 You'd have to be an employee of each of those publications.

03:03:30.000 Or join a union.

03:03:32.000 That's what they want.

03:03:33.000 It's like you're either gonna have to join a union, you're either gonna have to work for the government or join a union or go get employed, but people work gigs.

03:03:43.000 Most people are adults.

03:03:44.000 They can understand the cost-benefit analysis that they're making.

03:03:49.000 They can say, I might not have great health insurance, but I have the freedom to work as an Uber driver when I want to.

03:03:56.000 I can log in when I want to.

03:03:57.000 I can clock out.

03:03:58.000 I can take an hour break. 0.99

03:03:59.000 I can do whatever the fuck I want on my time. 0.98

03:04:02.000 And I understood when I was waitressing that I could have gone and worked in a corporation. 0.98

03:04:07.000 I could have probably gone and got a job anywhere and had good benefits.

03:04:11.000 And I would have had to clock in at a certain time and clock out and probably play the game and not say things that I want to say.

03:04:18.000 And I understood that I would have to take a riskier path and I took responsibility for that.

03:04:23.000 Now, I think that some of these companies do need to be held accountable in terms of how they treat their workers.

03:04:29.000 How much they pay their workers.

03:04:30.000 How much they pay their workers.

03:04:31.000 And it is true. 0.71

03:04:32.000 I'm not here to defend Uber because they do...

03:04:35.000 I mean, even just talk to any Uber drivers.

03:04:37.000 They've lowered their rates and it's harder for them to make money and it's all...

03:04:41.000 So they're not exactly...

03:04:44.000 Perfect.

03:04:44.000 But you can't take agency away from people who are choosing to work as a gig person and not maybe join a union or go work at a job.

03:04:55.000 And this is something that people should be calling Biden out on because he's come out many times in support of this.

03:05:03.000 Do you know how gross it would be if comedians had a union? 0.99

03:05:06.000 Disgusting! 1.00

03:05:07.000 Could you imagine what fuckwits would be in control of that union and how many shitty comics would go to the head of that union? 1.00

03:05:15.000 Because they don't have any power or agency in their comedy career? 0.99

03:05:19.000 Yeah, it would be like a huge HR department.

03:05:23.000 The worst comics with the shittiest ideas of what constitutes comedy.

03:05:27.000 Yeah.

03:05:27.000 And they would probably start censoring people.

03:05:29.000 Yeah.

03:05:30.000 All of it is we should be able to work where we want and how we want.

03:05:35.000 Especially someone like you who writes articles for a bunch of different...

03:05:38.000 Like, all of a sudden, you would have to be in a union and pay dues?

03:05:41.000 Well, people...

03:05:42.000 So, one of the women that I'm friends with had to leave L.A. because in many single... 1.00

03:05:47.000 And it always hurts the people they say they're trying to help.

03:05:50.000 She was a single mom and she had...

03:05:53.000 You couldn't write more than, like, 30 articles a month.

03:05:56.000 Most people who are freelance are writing...

03:05:58.000 30 articles a week if they can.

03:06:01.000 They're cranking these things out.

03:06:03.000 And if you are a company, for instance, you now have to employ that person.

03:06:08.000 And so companies based in D.C., if you're writing for a political, whatever it might be, they were saying, we can't work with you because we would have to fall under the laws of AB5 and either hire you or that's it, and we're not going to hire you.

03:06:24.000 This is a perfect example.

03:06:27.000 Yeah.

03:06:36.000 Yeah.

03:06:38.000 Yeah.

03:06:49.000 Or you do both? 1.00

03:06:50.000 But that kind of shit is crazy. 1.00

03:06:52.000 The idea that you would have to be... 1.00

03:06:53.000 Forcing people to join unions is insane.

03:06:57.000 I encourage people to read the PRO Act bill and to try and figure it out.

03:07:02.000 Again, go to the source material.

03:07:04.000 Don't just listen to me.

03:07:05.000 Go research this stuff.

03:07:06.000 There's some stuff that I think most people are like, okay, that's a little reasonable. 0.96

03:07:11.000 But the problem with these bills is that they try and cram in as much crap as they possibly can. 0.84

03:07:20.000 It's very pro-union. 0.53

03:07:23.000 And I, again, don't have anything against unions, but they shouldn't have all of the power.

03:07:29.000 You shouldn't be forced to join a union in order to work as a comedian or a freelance writer or anything.

03:07:37.000 It hurt so many people.

03:07:39.000 It hurt sign language, people who do translations.

03:07:41.000 It hurt people who work as independent drivers, personal assistants.

03:07:47.000 It was an endless...

03:07:49.000 There's a whole website devoted to stories from people from hundreds of different...

03:07:53.000 Why did they pass it? 0.92

03:07:55.000 Because the woman who did is an insane person. 1.00

03:07:59.000 I mean, I think it's part of the reason that Elon's probably going to bounce out of there, too, because I don't know that he uses...

03:08:06.000 I'm not sure, but I'm not sure that he uses union people in his factories.

03:08:12.000 I could be wrong about that, but I know that part of her...

03:08:15.000 Beef was with Elon and Uber and these big corporations, but when you look at who's funding her, which I love doing is following the money of all these people, it's like all the labor unions.

03:08:27.000 So she's in the pockets of these people, and she...

03:08:32.000 She will post something and then people will be in her mentions like, please don't do this.

03:08:35.000 You're hurting us.

03:08:36.000 You're hurting us.

03:08:37.000 You're hurting your constituents.

03:08:38.000 Her name's Lorena Gonzalez.

03:08:40.000 You're hurting...

03:08:41.000 And she'll just take the ability for anybody to reply to her. 1.00

03:08:45.000 I'm like, what kind of fucking representative are you that you are saying I'm helping people? 0.99

03:08:50.000 Your people are like, you're hurting us. 1.00

03:08:52.000 And she's like, mutes all replies.

03:08:54.000 Like...

03:08:55.000 You actually don't care about your people.

03:08:57.000 You're just posturing and saying that you do.

03:08:59.000 And in fact, you're just in the pocket of unions and pushing a bill that most everyone in the state...

03:09:05.000 I mean, Uber and Lyft are going to leave California.

03:09:08.000 Not like take their headquarters like no Uber or Lyft in California.

03:09:14.000 Because they couldn't comply with... 0.92

03:09:16.000 The whole freaking business model of Uber is... 0.66

03:09:22.000 Independent contractors. 0.78

03:09:23.000 And Lyft.

03:09:24.000 That's the business.

03:09:25.000 That is the business model.

03:09:26.000 That was the whole plan.

03:09:28.000 That's the whole thing.

03:09:29.000 The deal.

03:09:30.000 And you're trying to say, no, you need to employ these people.

03:09:32.000 What is California going to look like in 10 years?

03:09:34.000 Is it going to be Mad Max?

03:09:36.000 It feels like Mad Max already a little.

03:09:38.000 It does a little, especially now that it's on fire.

03:09:40.000 Yeah, it's heartbreaking what's happening to some of the cities.

03:09:47.000 I believe that there will be a resurgence.

03:09:49.000 I think whenever the cities empty out, artists move in and weirdos, and they're like, woohoo, opportunity.

03:09:57.000 So I believe in the creative, especially in New York.

03:10:01.000 People are like, New York is dead.

03:10:02.000 I'm like, it's not dead.

03:10:04.000 Well, I hope they're right.

03:10:06.000 I hope so, too, but people still live there in the 70s, even though it's violent.

03:10:10.000 I think LA has more problems than New York does.

03:10:13.000 LA is just one earthquake away from being a dead man's land.

03:10:17.000 Yeah, no, I don't want to be there for that.

03:10:18.000 Because if the earthquake hits, you think there's a mass exodus now?

03:10:22.000 Yeah.

03:10:23.000 The mass exodus now is about freedom.

03:10:25.000 Yeah.

03:10:25.000 That's most of it.

03:10:26.000 It's about freedom and then the worry about taxes because they're talking about raising taxes.

03:10:30.000 I think that fell.

03:10:32.000 That didn't pass.

03:10:33.000 I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that even that was too crazy for California.

03:10:37.000 Or is that the wealth tax?

03:10:38.000 They were thinking about the wealth tax and then, oh, I don't know.

03:10:42.000 The wealth tax is something they were going to- That died.

03:10:44.000 Yeah. 0.94

03:10:45.000 That was the most ridiculous proposal of all time. 0.96

03:10:47.000 Biden's talking about that today, though. 0.98

03:10:49.000 What?

03:10:49.000 The same tax?

03:10:50.000 The California tax?

03:10:51.000 It said like if you make over $400,000 a year, or excuse me, like under, nothing will change.

03:10:57.000 Tax the wealth, or tax the wealth yourself.

03:10:59.000 Over $400,000?

03:11:00.000 Well, the thing about the California one, Peter Schiff talked about it.

03:11:03.000 It was so crazy that 10 years ago, if you had left 10 years ago, you'd owe money.

03:11:09.000 And then if you leave now, from 10 years on, they could get money from you.

03:11:13.000 Yeah, that's big.

03:11:14.000 So if you leave today, you owe money for 10 more years. 0.96

03:11:16.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.66

03:11:17.000 How do you even enforce that? 1.00

03:11:18.000 You're just criminals.

03:11:19.000 You're just stealing. 1.00

03:11:20.000 You're stealing.

03:11:21.000 Yeah, it's shameless stealing.

03:11:23.000 And, you know, the idea...

03:11:24.000 Tim Kennedy was on the...

03:11:26.000 Here it is.

03:11:26.000 If you make under $400,000 a year, this is Joe Biden.

03:11:29.000 You will not...

03:11:29.000 By the way, he didn't write this.

03:11:30.000 You will not pay a penny more in taxes when I'm president.

03:11:33.000 The super wealthy and big corporations will finally pay their fair share and will invest the money in working families.

03:11:40.000 We're going to reward work, not wealth.

03:11:42.000 No, you're not.

03:11:43.000 No, here's the thing that drives me crazy.

03:11:45.000 I believe it's California that has the most wealth inequality in America.

03:11:51.000 They have done nothing to help the middle class.

03:11:54.000 They've eaten the middle class completely. 0.99

03:11:56.000 All my friends who are in my age or a little younger in their 30s, they all had to leave and go buy a house and they left years ago because they're like, it's too expensive for us to try and get ahead and have kids.

03:12:08.000 And These mom and pops that are getting destroyed. 0.97

03:12:11.000 They don't give a shit about the middle class or the working class. 0.98

03:12:15.000 You're seeing tons of homeless people are unhoused and tons of people who are absolutely loaded. 0.98

03:12:23.000 You know how much money it would take for me to buy a house in LA for a down payment in my neighborhood?

03:12:29.000 1,300 square feet.

03:12:33.000 $250,000!

03:12:34.000 Like, a quarter of a million.

03:12:37.000 You're looking at me like, that's not that much money.

03:12:39.000 It's a lot of money!

03:12:41.000 You're like, what's the problem, Bridget?

03:12:43.000 It's a lot of money. 0.99

03:12:44.000 It's a lot of fucking money. 0.99

03:12:45.000 It's a lot of money. 1.00

03:12:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:12:46.000 I get it.

03:12:48.000 I'm detached, but I'm not detached.

03:12:50.000 I still understand it.

03:12:51.000 There's no pathway upward for the middle class in places like New York or LA. Don't you think when places get really big, though, it's almost they're unmanageable when they get really big.

03:13:00.000 And they're always, when they're really big, they're always run by Democrats.

03:13:04.000 Yeah.

03:13:04.000 The really big cities are always Democrat-run, for whatever strange reason.

03:13:08.000 I mean, Detroit's a good example of what happened.

03:13:12.000 That was a thriving city.

03:13:14.000 Yeah, but that was different because that was when they shifted the auto industry.

03:13:20.000 Detroit was one of the richest cities in the world.

03:13:23.000 Yeah. 0.97

03:13:23.000 They fucked that up. 0.97

03:13:25.000 Globalization.

03:13:26.000 Yeah.

03:13:27.000 I mean, that was one of Michael Moore's best movies.

03:13:28.000 It was about Flint.

03:13:30.000 Oh, yeah.

03:13:31.000 I never saw it.

03:13:32.000 Flint, Michigan.

03:13:33.000 What was it called?

03:13:34.000 What was his first movie?

03:13:35.000 The big movie that put him on the map?

03:13:37.000 Michael Moore.

03:13:38.000 Was it the climate change one?

03:13:41.000 Roger and me.

03:13:43.000 Roger and me.

03:13:43.000 Yeah.

03:13:44.000 It was all about the guy who was the head of GM. Is that what it was?

03:13:47.000 Where he was trying to contact him to figure out why you're moving jobs out of the city and do you understand what you're doing to this place.

03:13:54.000 And that was when he was a real populist.

03:13:56.000 Yeah.

03:13:56.000 And it's funny how he became a villain when he had this movie criticizing the industry of climate change.

03:14:03.000 The industry behind client change, everybody's like, you piece of shit! 1.00

03:14:06.000 I thought I was one of you guys! 1.00

03:14:08.000 Everyone's canceled!

03:14:09.000 I know, everyone's canceled.

03:14:11.000 It's when we were driving around and our tour guide, our little Sharpa, who was showing us around, he was like...

03:14:18.000 Showing us all these amazing little old Austin places that are closed because of COVID and will probably never open.

03:14:24.000 And they've been there since like 1938 and all that.

03:14:26.000 And, you know, we were saying like if I was a philanthropic billionaire, I would buy all these little mom and pops and help keep them alive because they're the lifeblood of these cities.

03:14:38.000 And they're also just that that's what kills me is like I hate seeing this.

03:14:42.000 This coffee shop that's been there since forever closed and there's a Starbucks next door and they're fine.

03:14:49.000 It just kills that.

03:14:51.000 That is where I want...

03:14:52.000 Well, Austin is all about these little small independent places, independent restaurants, independent businesses.

03:14:58.000 That's one of the things that I really love about it.

03:15:00.000 That's one of the things that attracted me to this place in the first place.

03:15:03.000 I'm hoping that new ones will rise and take their place.

03:15:06.000 That's the hope, is the ethic of this community.

03:15:09.000 We need a more robust middle class.

03:15:13.000 That's what we need to cultivate.

03:15:15.000 In California, if you want to try and fix California, that's where you start.

03:15:18.000 How do you help people who are living in the $100,000 to $600,000 a year range or even less, $60,000?

03:15:28.000 What is their pathway up?

03:15:30.000 Especially now.

03:15:31.000 Yeah, how do you help them?

03:15:33.000 Because that's what holds the center.

03:15:38.000 Bridget, why don't you run for president? 1.00

03:15:41.000 You'd be able to nail it.

03:15:42.000 Maybe we should both run.

03:15:45.000 No.

03:15:45.000 Yeah.

03:15:46.000 No.

03:15:46.000 But I'll support you.

03:15:47.000 I'll be your veep.

03:15:48.000 No, no, no.

03:15:48.000 I'll support you.

03:15:49.000 I don't want to be president.

03:15:50.000 I can be your veep.

03:15:51.000 Come on.

03:15:51.000 You can do it.

03:15:52.000 Come on.

03:15:52.000 You can be first woman president.

03:15:54.000 Kamala Harris would be the first woman president if Joe Biden wins.

03:15:57.000 With her Timbers?

03:15:58.000 Yeah.

03:15:58.000 Because he ain't going to make it.

03:15:59.000 Yeah.

03:16:00.000 With the Timberlands.

03:16:01.000 All right.

03:16:02.000 We did three hours.

03:16:03.000 We saved.

03:16:04.000 Oh, really?

03:16:04.000 More than three hours.

03:16:05.000 Yeah.

03:16:05.000 It's already four o'clock.

03:16:06.000 It's past four.

03:16:07.000 Sorry.

03:16:07.000 It was awesome.

03:16:08.000 I enjoyed it.

03:16:09.000 That was a fun one.

03:16:09.000 You going to move here?

03:16:12.000 I'm definitely considering it.

03:16:14.000 I don't like to be a follower.

03:16:15.000 You're not a follower.

03:16:17.000 I'm a follower.

03:16:18.000 It feels so lame.

03:16:19.000 No.

03:16:20.000 Why?

03:16:20.000 Because I got here first?

03:16:21.000 No, no.

03:16:22.000 Just because I'm generally...

03:16:23.000 Everybody's leaving and I'm generally...

03:16:25.000 And I want out. 1.00

03:16:26.000 Don't be stupid. 1.00

03:16:26.000 I just don't know where I want to go. 1.00

03:16:28.000 But it's better here.

03:16:28.000 Maybe I'll go to Idaho.

03:16:30.000 That's right.

03:16:30.000 Idaho's good.

03:16:31.000 But they'll get mad if you talk about it.

03:16:32.000 I know.

03:16:33.000 Shout out to Boise.

03:16:34.000 Alright, Dumpster Fire, it's available.

03:16:37.000 On YouTube, Watkins Welcome is my podcast.

03:16:40.000 It's a different vibe than Dumpster Fire.

03:16:43.000 A little more nuanced.

03:16:45.000 And your Instagram, you don't use.

03:16:49.000 And Twitter, at BridgetPetasy.

03:16:51.000 We use Twitter a lot.

03:16:52.000 I love Twitter.

03:16:53.000 Twitter loves you.

03:16:54.000 Thank you, Bridget.

03:16:55.000 I love you too.

03:16:55.000 I love you.

03:16:56.000 Thank you for having me.

03:16:57.000 Thanks for being here.

03:16:57.000 I enjoy it, as always.

03:16:59.000 Bye, everybody.

03:17:00.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 24, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1541 - Bridget Phetasy

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