The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon

00:00:12.000 Young Jamie, back in the fucking saddle. 1.00

00:00:15.000 How you feeling? 1.00

00:00:16.000 Very well, thank you.

00:00:17.000 COVID-free, four days in a row now.

00:00:19.000 I've kicked it.

00:00:20.000 Yeah, and now you still can't taste anything?

00:00:23.000 Can't taste...

00:00:23.000 Well, it's starting to come back today, but yeah, like 5% taste.

00:00:26.000 Yeah, it's gotta be...

00:00:28.000 Pickle juice doesn't even taste like anything.

00:00:29.000 Really?

00:00:30.000 It just tastes like water?

00:00:31.000 Mm-hmm.

00:00:31.000 Whoa.

00:00:32.000 Very weird.

00:00:32.000 But you don't have any residual symptoms?

00:00:35.000 Nothing wrong?

00:00:35.000 All good.

00:00:36.000 I can breathe everything.

00:00:37.000 Good to see you back, buddy.

00:00:37.000 Oh, two?

00:00:38.000 Good.

00:00:38.000 We're a little worried about you.

00:00:39.000 Thank you.

00:00:39.000 A little worried about you.

00:00:41.000 Not worried about you.

00:00:43.000 Alex Jones!

00:00:45.000 This is the most anticipated thing I ever did.

00:00:47.000 I've probably had, no exaggeration, 2,000 or 3,000 people in the last year and a half ask me, when are you going back on Joe Rogan?

00:00:53.000 And I'm always saying, I don't know, I don't know.

00:00:55.000 And then I learned you were moving here like three, four months ago, and now we're here, and this is exciting.

00:00:59.000 I don't get butterflies anymore, but I actually have them here, and this is great.

00:01:03.000 It's good to have butterflies after about 20 years.

00:01:05.000 Didn't get it the last two times I was on.

00:01:07.000 Didn't get it when I interviewed Trump.

00:01:08.000 Didn't get it in a lot of things, but I've got butterflies here today. 0.99

00:01:12.000 Tim, motherfucking Tim. 0.99

00:01:13.000 Yeah, I'm just a kid in a candy store. 1.00

00:01:15.000 Me too.

00:01:15.000 Thank you for making this dream come true.

00:01:18.000 This is what I've always wanted to do, and we've made it happen.

00:01:21.000 This is my make-a-wish.

00:01:21.000 I can die happy.

00:01:22.000 Well, I'm happy you're here.

00:01:23.000 Yeah, I got my free Ghislaine shirt because I believe all women.

00:01:26.000 Is that how you say it?

00:01:27.000 I think so, yeah.

00:01:29.000 I thought it was Ghislaine.

00:01:30.000 I thought it was Ghislaine.

00:01:31.000 It might be Ghislaine.

00:01:31.000 It's Ghislaine.

00:01:33.000 Do you know?

00:01:34.000 Don't look at me.

00:01:35.000 Ghislaine?

00:01:37.000 Ghislaine? 0.99

00:01:38.000 That's a ridiculous name. 0.99

00:01:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:39.000 Her father was a famous MI6 massage spy that reportedly used sex operatives to control people. 0.99

00:01:46.000 He died being thrown off a yacht in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

00:01:51.000 And, of course, she got caught in that farmhouse on the East Coast.

00:01:54.000 And she was really the pimp over Epstein and a giant sex network ring over scientists that they were compromising so they could control not just government but industry and science. 0.99

00:02:04.000 And so that was the master blackmail operation they were running.

00:02:07.000 And her sisters are big in tech. 0.68

00:02:09.000 Like Isabel Maxwell, she has sisters that are in U.S. tech companies.

00:02:13.000 I think two of her sisters...

00:02:15.000 We're part of the creation of Magellan, which was that big search engine.

00:02:18.000 Really?

00:02:19.000 So yeah, they are a very powerful family, and they have all kinds of different operations.

00:02:24.000 Her dad was the biggest publisher in England, and also the biggest owner of private TV stations in England.

00:02:31.000 And when he died, it turned out he was a front, basically, for intelligence networks.

00:02:35.000 Now let me, right off the bat, say you were telling me about Epstein and this island years ago.

00:02:43.000 You were telling me long before anybody...

00:02:46.000 I think you told me about him before his first arrest.

00:02:50.000 A long time ago, I talked about how they have these islands.

00:02:52.000 They fly.

00:02:53.000 They compromise children.

00:02:54.000 But I learned all this from Ted Gunderson 20-plus years ago.

00:02:59.000 He was in line to be the FBI director.

00:03:00.000 He was the head of the FBI in Los Angeles.

00:03:03.000 He was a very famous FBI agent.

00:03:05.000 He even ran Cointelpro.

00:03:06.000 It's a civil rights movement.

00:03:07.000 He apologized for that before he died in 2011. But...

00:03:12.000 He came out, and he was the one that explained to me about how they used these blackmail rings, elements of the CIA, and foreign intelligence groups, and how they would basically make people have sex with children to be part of these clubs and these cults they were setting up.

00:03:27.000 So I knew about all this from Ted Gunderson.

00:03:29.000 Were they young girls that...

00:03:31.000 Did they tell them these girls were underage, or did they look like they were older?

00:03:36.000 Like the Borat movie, where they supposedly got...

00:03:42.000 If you haven't seen it, it's very disappointing.

00:03:44.000 They set him up.

00:03:45.000 I saw it, yeah.

00:03:45.000 They did set him up, but nothing happened.

00:03:48.000 They made it look like Giuliani was jerking off in front of this girl. 0.99

00:03:51.000 He was taking his mic off. 1.00

00:03:52.000 He would have to be the biggest savage on earth to jerk off in that situation. 0.99

00:03:57.000 And they also said that he inappropriately touched her back. 0.99

00:04:00.000 When he touched her back, I am not exaggerating, it was like this.

00:04:02.000 Right.

00:04:03.000 It was a couple of light taps on the back.

00:04:05.000 While she was close to him taking off his mic thing, he goes, thank you very much, dear.

00:04:10.000 And he goes, yes, I just need your name and your phone number.

00:04:13.000 And then she takes off his mic, and then he leans back, and he's tucking his shirt back.

00:04:18.000 Because he just pulled the mic out.

00:04:19.000 Right, but he's lying on the bed to do it.

00:04:21.000 Now, if you're an old man, and I'm sure he's probably got a bad back, that's probably how you would do it. 0.99

00:04:27.000 But any of us that have had to put the mics on our side, and then you put it in your pants, up your shirt, and then you've got to get it out.

00:04:34.000 That's what you do, but it's worse than that.

00:04:36.000 Remember when he was playing the...

00:04:38.000 Who was the gay character he played like 10 years ago?

00:04:40.000 Bruno.

00:04:41.000 Bruno.

00:04:41.000 Yeah.

00:04:42.000 Remember Congressman Ron Paul at the time had run for president.

00:04:45.000 And he's in the hotel.

00:04:47.000 He goes, oh, the light broke.

00:04:48.000 Please step into this room.

00:04:49.000 So there's no chair.

00:04:50.000 Ron Paul sits down.

00:04:52.000 He's reading the newspaper. 1.00

00:04:53.000 And Bruno comes in and pulls his pants down and says, I want to have sex with you. 1.00

00:04:57.000 Now, that would be sexual assault if that was a man to a woman. 1.00

00:04:59.000 Right.

00:04:59.000 Ron Paul pushes him out of the way.

00:05:00.000 He goes out of the room.

00:05:01.000 And so this is what he does.

00:05:03.000 He's done this to other people.

00:05:04.000 It's his specialty is to say you're being interviewed.

00:05:07.000 Yeah, here it is. 0.96

00:05:10.000 Listen, let me just, before we go any further, I fucking love Sasha Baron Cohen. 0.86

00:05:15.000 He's a comic genius. 0.94

00:05:16.000 I think he's brilliant.

00:05:17.000 I think he's amazing.

00:05:18.000 But his interpretation of what happened in the room with Rudy Giuliani, it's not accurate, in my opinion.

00:05:26.000 Well, listen, I mean, in Who is America?

00:05:28.000 He's tapping her while she's...

00:05:31.000 Touching him and removing his mic, he does this little tap on her waist.

00:05:36.000 But it's not creepy.

00:05:37.000 It's like an old man, like a little tap, tap, tap. 0.97

00:05:40.000 Right.

00:05:41.000 Like, if you want to take it out of context, like, I don't know if there's more to it than what we're seeing.

00:05:46.000 But let's go further.

00:05:46.000 Let's go further.

00:05:47.000 Right after this happens, Borat, Sausbert Cohen, runs in in panties and a bra saying, have sex with me, he's 15, she's too old. 1.00

00:05:56.000 Yes. 0.98

00:05:57.000 So this is, and Giuliani's like, what the, I'd have a heartache?

00:05:59.000 Like, what is this? 0.99

00:06:00.000 Listen, my fucking 12-year-old sense of humor loved it. 0.99

00:06:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:03.000 But the thing about it is, they're making it seem like Giuliani was jerking off in front of her. 1.00

00:06:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:06:09.000 And that's not, like, he lies back and he's tucking his pants.

00:06:13.000 Like, can we show the whole thing so we can look at it?

00:06:16.000 We don't have to.

00:06:17.000 They put it on as promotional material.

00:06:19.000 What's that, Jamie?

00:06:19.000 We can watch it in here, but I'll be, I'll be.

00:06:21.000 Well, that's just us.

00:06:22.000 I mean, I think Jamie's right.

00:06:23.000 Because you're a big show, they'll try to tag you.

00:06:24.000 But they put this out as promotional material to be promoted.

00:06:28.000 They put it out on Twitter.

00:06:29.000 The clip is on Ms. Pat's.

00:06:30.000 Give a shout-out to Ms. Pat. 1.00

00:06:32.000 I mean, Jamie's technically right, though.

00:06:33.000 On Instagram.

00:06:34.000 It's on her Instagram.

00:06:36.000 But let me drop a bombshell on you, Joe.

00:06:38.000 A bombshell?

00:06:39.000 No, no.

00:06:40.000 I've been a big fan of Sacha Baron Cohen until I learned he spoke at the ADL last year and called for my arrest.

00:06:47.000 For free speech.

00:06:48.000 And he called for Jeff Zuckerberg's arrest.

00:06:52.000 Or Mark Zuckerberg's arrest.

00:06:53.000 So he called for my arrest and for Mark Zuckerberg's arrest for free speech.

00:06:59.000 Hey, he wants to work in Hollywood.

00:07:00.000 Right.

00:07:00.000 You got to do what you got to do.

00:07:01.000 No, but let's go further.

00:07:02.000 No, I agree.

00:07:03.000 But I mean, he said arrest people for their free speech.

00:07:06.000 And he supports Internet censorship.

00:07:08.000 So how does he make his money being this avant-garde, cutting-edge, really over-the-edge, Comic that does things that can technically be seen as illegal.

00:07:16.000 I support his free speech, and then he says, I don't deserve it.

00:07:19.000 It's really dangerous.

00:07:20.000 He's flawed, like many great artists.

00:07:24.000 Until they come for him, he's not going to understand this slippery slope of censorship.

00:07:29.000 This is another thing that people have...

00:07:35.000 I think we're good to go. 0.99

00:08:09.000 It's a fucking slippery slope. 0.98

00:08:11.000 And there's a reason why we've been so steadfast in supporting the First Amendment in this country. 0.99

00:08:16.000 And people think it doesn't apply to tech because these tech institutes are private businesses and they should be able to do whatever they want with their private business. 0.87

00:08:23.000 The problem is that fucking slippery slope has gone from censoring you from banning Alex Jones off Twitter a year and a half ago to getting the White House press secretary banned off Twitter because she posts something from the New York Post, which is crazy! 0.96

00:08:38.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:08:39.000 That's a 200 and whatever year old newspaper.

00:08:41.000 America's oldest newspaper.

00:08:42.000 And what she said, the post, what they printed and put out there is accurate.

00:08:48.000 Let's go further.

00:08:49.000 Let's go further.

00:08:50.000 They're denying that That it's a real story, but they don't ever say the emails are fake.

00:08:56.000 They just say it's a smear.

00:08:58.000 No, it's a real laptop.

00:08:59.000 The videos have been released.

00:09:00.000 It's confirmed.

00:09:01.000 But just think about this.

00:09:02.000 It is a smear in that they're putting it out there.

00:09:05.000 They're timing it.

00:09:06.000 Sure, but they're not denying it's real.

00:09:09.000 No, it's real.

00:09:09.000 It's real.

00:09:10.000 How did this laptop become this big story?

00:09:14.000 That's where it gets tricky.

00:09:15.000 Yeah, I'm curious.

00:09:15.000 Because...

00:09:17.000 Supposedly, he dropped it off at a laptop repair shop in Delaware. 1.00

00:09:22.000 What an idiot. 1.00

00:09:23.000 I mean, who's doing that? 1.00

00:09:24.000 Well, Crackhead.

00:09:25.000 Right, right.

00:09:25.000 Good point.

00:09:26.000 The guy's smoking crack.

00:09:27.000 I keep forgetting he smokes crack.

00:09:28.000 Well, he did at the time.

00:09:30.000 Apparently, he's kicked it.

00:09:31.000 So congratulations to him.

00:09:32.000 But the guy had some problems.

00:09:35.000 This is self-admitted.

00:09:37.000 And they have the receipts.

00:09:38.000 And here's the thing.

00:09:40.000 He calls him dozens of times.

00:09:42.000 Everybody knows when you bring a laptop or anything in, they say, if you don't pay for this, we're going to wipe it and sell it.

00:09:47.000 And so three months goes by, six months goes by, nobody ever comes and gets it.

00:09:50.000 The guy goes to look at it at the repair shop, the owner, and there's all these 25,000 files, what looks like underage girls, and all the rest of this crazy stuff, and him smoking crack, or God knows what.

00:10:00.000 He gives it to the FBI. Ray does nothing, the director, hides it from Trump.

00:10:05.000 And so people, let's just say inside that had copies of that, We're good to go.

00:10:30.000 His daughter, Biden's daughters, purportedly, reportedly, and they've not denied it now, this broke three days ago, left her diary in a house that she had rented.

00:10:40.000 And the diary talks about all the same stuff and everything. 0.99

00:10:44.000 What the fuck is wrong with this family? 0.96

00:10:48.000 When I was looking into this, the thing I keep seeing people say is that he lived in California. 0.99

00:10:53.000 He lived in California at the time.

00:10:54.000 That is true?

00:10:55.000 That's what I keep reading.

00:10:56.000 But they fly back and forth to Delaware.

00:10:57.000 These are jet setters. 0.99

00:10:58.000 They fly to Ukraine.

00:10:59.000 Well, that also might make sense.

00:11:01.000 That's why he didn't go back to Delaware to pick up the laptop.

00:11:03.000 Because when you're cracked out in California, it's really hard to make the flight.

00:11:08.000 All right.

00:11:09.000 Right?

00:11:10.000 I don't know.

00:11:11.000 Tim is the only one here who's probably smoked crack.

00:11:13.000 Guys, the FBI confirms they have a laptop now.

00:11:14.000 I will confirm it's not an easy flight coming down off cocaine or crack.

00:11:19.000 Have you smoked crack or just coke?

00:11:20.000 I've never had free-based cocaine, which is close.

00:11:23.000 How close is it?

00:11:24.000 Not as close as where I ever went and made shady deals in the Ukraine.

00:11:29.000 Well, that's the other thing.

00:11:30.000 By the way, that's in the emails, finally, where it's like, yeah, 30 million, part of it goes to the big guy.

00:11:36.000 They're like, okay, we want to meet with your dad.

00:11:38.000 And there's photos of them meeting and playing golf.

00:11:40.000 So let me tell you, this is real.

00:11:42.000 The FBI has the files.

00:11:43.000 They admit it's real.

00:11:44.000 It's a big deal.

00:11:45.000 But it's a real problem to ban this stuff from Twitter.

00:11:48.000 Putin rejects Donald Trump's criticism of Biden's family business.

00:11:52.000 Well, because it's Russia's bribing Hunter Biden.

00:11:56.000 3.5 million through Putin, through the Moscow mayor who he's friends with, to Hunter Biden again.

00:12:03.000 Well, if I was Putin, I would deny it too.

00:12:05.000 Listen, Putin has got to love this. 1.00

00:12:07.000 If I was Putin sitting back, watching these fucking people eat themselves alive and destroy the First Amendment, destroy democracy... 1.00

00:12:15.000 And I'm sure they have a hand in it. 1.00

00:12:18.000 I'm sure China has a hand in it.

00:12:20.000 I'm sure Iran has a hand in it. 0.97

00:12:21.000 This is what the intelligence communities have been telling us for a long time now, is that it's not just one foreign company or foreign country that's trying to... 0.99

00:12:32.000 Fuck with our democracy. 0.99

00:12:33.000 It's multiple. 1.00

00:12:34.000 Yeah, the idea that the Russians have a monopoly on this...

00:12:36.000 No.

00:12:37.000 I mean, if the Russians were an NFL football team, they'd be like the lower third. 0.97

00:12:40.000 I mean, the U.S. and China are the top teams.

00:12:42.000 And we should say the United States does it, too.

00:12:46.000 Sure.

00:12:47.000 It's 100% confirmed. 0.98

00:12:48.000 Sure, the idea that Russians got Trump in is asinine, because here's what happens. 0.72

00:12:52.000 Notice they tried to impeach Trump just nine months ago for stuff in Ukraine, because whatever they are worried about, they project. 0.79

00:13:01.000 So Trump doesn't have Russia connections.

00:13:03.000 Trump doesn't have those connections.

00:13:06.000 Trump doesn't have those outside connections.

00:13:08.000 You can't buy him.

00:13:09.000 He doesn't have lobbyists.

00:13:11.000 The problem is, he then has family and people around him that basically become lobbyists for themselves, and Trump isn't really even aware of it.

00:13:19.000 And then that's going on.

00:13:20.000 I mean, even junior aides now, you'll find out, have people given them millions of dollars just to say something to the president. 0.99

00:13:27.000 Is this standard shit? 0.99

00:13:28.000 Is this just how politics have always been done? 1.00

00:13:30.000 It's just that now we're seeing it?

00:13:32.000 Well, it was standard, let's say, 200 years ago that you'd go out for the wife or the brother or somebody that works at the White House.

00:13:37.000 It got organized the last 100 years with lobbyists.

00:13:40.000 Trump literally cut the lobbyists off.

00:13:42.000 But all it did was now make everyone around him a lobbyist, even though they're not officially a lobbyist.

00:13:46.000 How did he cut the lobbyists off?

00:13:48.000 He just stopped meeting with them and just said, I want briefings on what's going on.

00:13:51.000 I'll decide.

00:13:51.000 So that's why he pissed official Washington off.

00:13:54.000 Not that he's even perfect, but that he actually became the president for making decisions himself instead of having consortiums and lobbyists pay him for policy.

00:14:01.000 That's why he says, Biden's raised more money than me.

00:14:03.000 Of course, I can call up all these companies.

00:14:05.000 They'll give me any money I want, but I've got to do what they say.

00:14:07.000 But it would put him in a compromised position.

00:14:09.000 Yes, but I'm being honest about it.

00:14:11.000 The vacuum and the blind spot...

00:14:13.000 Is that then, everyone around him in his cabinet and everyone that works there, even down to mid-level people, are now getting multi-million dollar contracts for companies like AT&T and stuff, just to even mention something to the president.

00:14:28.000 Now, hold up, before you go any further, you said AT&T. Has it been proven that it's AT&T, or are you just saying AT&T-like companies, like large companies?

00:14:35.000 Let's just say, I'm not saying AT&T's bad.

00:14:37.000 I think AT&T's overall a good company.

00:14:38.000 But is AT&T doing something bad?

00:14:40.000 No, I was mentioning that as a Fortune 500 company.

00:14:44.000 Okay, but it's not AT&T. No, it's not AT&T. So we shouldn't say that.

00:14:47.000 See, this is why you need someone that's like a fact checker right next to you.

00:14:50.000 No, the media will say I'm wrong about that, but okay.

00:14:56.000 No, no, hold on.

00:14:57.000 It's personal lawyer.

00:14:58.000 His personal lawyer, the one that ended up going to jail, actually...

00:15:01.000 Michael Cohen.

00:15:02.000 Michael Cohen was getting money from AT&T. Go ahead and pull it up.

00:15:05.000 I mean, I was just trying to give you a gestalt quick analysis.

00:15:08.000 But I just want to...

00:15:09.000 I've told you before, what you really need on your show is like a legit journalist who's right next to you with a laptop going, Alex, hold on, hold on, just slow down.

00:15:17.000 But I think you're right about that because...

00:15:19.000 But you get so much right, but when you get something wrong, that's what people...

00:15:22.000 But what you've got to understand is...

00:15:23.000 AT&T confirms it paid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's company.

00:15:27.000 Yeah.

00:15:27.000 No, I remember that.

00:15:28.000 See, Joe, they're always saying that I'm making stuff up.

00:15:32.000 They're lying.

00:15:32.000 Right, right.

00:15:33.000 Now, every once in a while, my memory that used to be photographic, but from everything I've done, it's not as good as it used to be.

00:15:37.000 It moves really quick, okay?

00:15:38.000 So, when I'm saying stuff, it's just data knowledge, okay?

00:15:41.000 And then I can like, okay, yeah, did I say that?

00:15:43.000 Yeah, it's real.

00:15:44.000 Check it out.

00:15:44.000 But I'm not trying to make stuff up.

00:15:46.000 99% of the time.

00:15:47.000 Here it is.

00:15:47.000 AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that paid President Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, in 2017 for, in quotes, insights into understanding the new administration.

00:15:58.000 Insights.

00:15:59.000 I love that.

00:16:00.000 So how much did they pay him?

00:16:01.000 $200,000 and four separate payments of $50 in late 2017 and early 2018. Interesting.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, but he got paid, I think the number was $10 million total from a handful of companies.

00:16:12.000 But look how they did it.

00:16:13.000 They did it shady.

00:16:14.000 Look, Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Stormy Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. At the time, AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner,

00:16:30.000 CNN's parent company.

00:16:31.000 It's a merger. 0.83

00:16:32.000 It's a dirty world!

00:16:34.000 Yeah, but I'm telling you, AT&T is a sweetheart compared to Google.

00:16:37.000 And Facebook and Twitter and all these people.

00:16:39.000 So I wasn't attacking them.

00:16:41.000 I was giving an example of how everyone in his entourage becomes a lobbyist because he thinks, I'll just cut lobbyists off.

00:16:48.000 He's not taking any money.

00:16:49.000 But then everyone around him becomes a lobbyist.

00:16:51.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:16:52.000 Do you worry about the influence that people like Jared Kushner have?

00:16:54.000 Because I know a lot of biggest – his supporters, like Ann Coulter, who's Trump's biggest supporter, goes, I don't love the idea that he hired his children and that they have a lot of connections.

00:17:03.000 I can tell you this.

00:17:04.000 I can tell you this.

00:17:05.000 People were really pissed who were patriots of the intelligence community and other areas, but also enemies of Trump that Kushner had so much influence.

00:17:12.000 But now Kushner's gotten a lot of respect because he's actually gotten a lot of huge peace deals done that nobody else could do for 50 years.

00:17:19.000 That's interesting how little press those peace deals have gotten.

00:17:22.000 Yeah, they're getting none.

00:17:23.000 No press.

00:17:24.000 Yeah, it's really concerning.

00:17:25.000 So now, I mean, they were pissed like, who's this kid?

00:17:27.000 And now everything he touches turns to gold?

00:17:29.000 But he looks like the omen.

00:17:30.000 We've covered this multiple times.

00:17:31.000 He looks like a little devilish.

00:17:33.000 And he paid twice what it was worth for like 666 Park Avenue.

00:17:37.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:17:39.000 That's not good.

00:17:40.000 That's not great.

00:17:41.000 Why would he want that?

00:17:43.000 I think it was more than twice.

00:17:44.000 Look up 666, is it Park Avenue?

00:17:46.000 Listen, maybe he's a Satanist.

00:17:49.000 He's getting good deals done in the Middle East.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, I mean, he's getting good deals.

00:17:53.000 They say the Antichrist gets good deals in the Middle East.

00:17:55.000 If you're going to be a Luciferian, at least make peace in the Mideast.

00:17:57.000 How about that?

00:17:58.000 Maybe Satan's the only one that can do that.

00:18:00.000 AT&T is a really good cell phone company.

00:18:02.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 Hey.

00:18:03.000 It's the way it works.

00:18:05.000 When I mention AT&T, it's an example that popped in my head of unofficial lobbying.

00:18:10.000 Well, I was happy that we called you on it because then we found out it's correct. 0.66

00:18:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:15.000 Correct about a lot of shit. 0.99

00:18:16.000 This is my point from jump. 0.99

00:18:18.000 I found out about agent provocateurs from you, from your 9-11 Road to Tyranny video, where they used them at the World Trade Organization protests in Seattle in the late 90s.

00:18:28.000 Like, I had no idea that it was a common practice to send in masked people to start smashing things during peaceful protests so then they could go in.

00:18:39.000 By the way, I can give you the straight dope on Antifa if you want to do that.

00:18:41.000 Go ahead.

00:18:43.000 Okay.

00:18:43.000 Yeah.

00:18:44.000 Hold on a second.

00:18:45.000 666 Park Avenue Project had been a black hole of cash for years until a sovereign wealth fund made a substantial investment for the property after Kushner was already serving as Trump's top advisor in the White House.

00:18:59.000 Wow.

00:18:59.000 Okay.

00:19:00.000 Might be a nice building.

00:19:02.000 What does it say?

00:19:02.000 The Kushner Company?

00:19:04.000 Is that what his company's called?

00:19:04.000 Yeah.

00:19:05.000 His dad went to prison.

00:19:07.000 The Kushner Company's 666 Park Avenue Project.

00:19:10.000 That's hilarious.

00:19:11.000 I think that's beautiful. 0.62

00:19:12.000 His dad went to prison for, I believe, setting up his brother with a prostitute or something.

00:19:17.000 Yeah.

00:19:18.000 What?

00:19:18.000 Yeah, they're a fun family, the Kushners.

00:19:20.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:19:21.000 The dad set up the brother? 0.96

00:19:23.000 With a prostitute, with a cold girl, and take them to try to get trapped. 1.00

00:19:26.000 We are, step by step, we're going to fact check every one of those. 0.97

00:19:29.000 No, no, this is well known.

00:19:30.000 This is well known.

00:19:31.000 I understand, but we need to have this for the- People like me and Alex don't just spout off.

00:19:34.000 We have the facts.

00:19:35.000 I know you have the facts, but I want to make sure.

00:19:37.000 Here, Chris Christie, Jared Kushner's father, committed one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes I prosecuted. 0.83

00:19:43.000 Wow. 0.93

00:19:45.000 Wow.

00:19:45.000 We fact check all of this.

00:19:47.000 That is crazy.

00:19:48.000 Make that bigger for my old eyes.

00:19:50.000 Look at this.

00:19:52.000 What does it say?

00:19:52.000 According to the excerpts in the book, Republished by Axios and the Guardian, Christie claims the younger Kushner was behind his departure from Trump's inner circle after a 2016 election.

00:20:01.000 Writing that, he was still apparently seething over the events that had occurred a decade ago.

00:20:06.000 What is the events of a decade ago?

00:20:08.000 They over-prosecuted his dad. 0.69

00:20:09.000 He should have gotten probation for trying to set up his brother with a hooker. 0.95

00:20:13.000 Said he got a bunch of time. 1.00

00:20:14.000 Imagine your dad setting you up with a hooker. 1.00

00:20:17.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:20:17.000 They're trying to set the other family member up. 1.00

00:20:19.000 Here's what...

00:20:21.000 If my father is guilty, I would.

00:20:23.000 Mr. Kutcher pled guilty.

00:20:25.000 He admitted the crimes, Christie said.

00:20:27.000 And so what am I supposed to do as a prosecutor? 0.92

00:20:28.000 I mean, if a guy hires a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law. 0.96

00:20:32.000 Oh, it's his brother-in-law. 0.99

00:20:33.000 That's what he said.

00:20:34.000 His brother-in-law.

00:20:35.000 His brother-in-law.

00:20:36.000 Okay.

00:20:36.000 I got confused.

00:20:37.000 And then videotapes it and then sends the videotape to his sister to attempt to intimidate her from testifying before a grand jury.

00:20:44.000 Do I really need any more justification than that? 0.99

00:20:46.000 Holy shit, what am I saying? 0.99

00:20:47.000 But it wasn't to intimidate. 0.99

00:20:48.000 That's his interpretation.

00:20:50.000 That stuff goes on in divorces all the time. 0.80

00:20:52.000 People go videotape the other person cheating.

00:20:54.000 That's why it was wrong he went to prison, because he wasn't doing it.

00:20:57.000 He was doing that to show that the person testifying was wrong.

00:21:00.000 Of course you're trying to influence testimony with the truth.

00:21:02.000 It's this idea that, yes, they're cheating.

00:21:05.000 I told you they were.

00:21:06.000 Here's the proof.

00:21:06.000 How does that become fraud?

00:21:08.000 Okay, I'm confused. 0.99

00:21:09.000 So he set up his brother-in-law with a prostitute... 0.62

00:21:13.000 To show that this had been going on before, which he'd already alleged. 0.99

00:21:17.000 Okay, as part of the plot, Kushner hired a prostitute to lure Shoulder into having sex in a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room. 0.99

00:21:24.000 First of all, if you find yourself in a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room... 1.00

00:21:26.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:21:27.000 Run. 1.00

00:21:30.000 As the hidden camera rolls, a tape of the encounter was then sent to Kushner's sister and Shoulder's wife.

00:21:37.000 Look, I know the whole story.

00:21:37.000 Just trust us.

00:21:39.000 I just made a comment that...

00:21:41.000 You start thinking about, like, who's running these stories, and then Hunter Biden's running around with, you know, underage people on the laptop.

00:21:48.000 You start going, why does everyone work for a Ukrainian gas company?

00:21:50.000 Like, who are these people running the country?

00:21:52.000 Yeah, the West controlled Ukraine, so they just use that as the money laundering op.

00:21:57.000 It's not the Ukrainians running us. 1.00

00:21:58.000 Right.

00:21:58.000 They use it as that.

00:21:59.000 But let's expand on this, Joe.

00:22:01.000 What I'm getting at here is, I didn't bring up AT&T. They're a good company overall.

00:22:05.000 They're not the ones censoring and stuff.

00:22:07.000 Okay?

00:22:07.000 It's the big tech.

00:22:09.000 The reason I raised that was just the one that popped in my head, the first one.

00:22:12.000 It's massive what's going on.

00:22:13.000 I was just being honest that Trump's tried to...

00:22:15.000 Well, it's only a couple hundred grand.

00:22:16.000 I mean, as much as that sounds like a lot of money...

00:22:19.000 Yeah, but the bigger ones, like he's talking about...

00:22:20.000 Communist China.

00:22:21.000 Amazon.

00:22:21.000 Communist China's even bigger.

00:22:23.000 It's bigger than big tech.

00:22:24.000 It literally spends hundreds of billions of dollars buying us off.

00:22:27.000 It owns Hollywood.

00:22:28.000 It owns a lot of the big telecoms.

00:22:30.000 It owns the majority of our debt.

00:22:32.000 And I've got articles in the LA Times and New York Times I brought for you where they say Xi Jinping must destroy Trump...

00:22:38.000 To save America, he was our leader.

00:22:40.000 And then at the Davos Group, he said three years ago, I will destroy Trump.

00:22:43.000 I will work with Hollywood.

00:22:44.000 I've got all his quotes right here.

00:22:46.000 And Xi Jinping said, I want to overthrow American democracy.

00:22:49.000 I want to repudiate it.

00:22:50.000 I want to discredit it.

00:22:51.000 And Xi Jinping admits he admires Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

00:22:56.000 Okay, but isn't he doing that?

00:22:58.000 That seems crazy.

00:22:59.000 You can pull it up!

00:23:00.000 I understand.

00:23:01.000 I'll show you.

00:23:02.000 Step by step here.

00:23:03.000 Isn't he doing that because of Trump's trade deals?

00:23:06.000 Like, the trade deals that Trump wants to do with China are not nearly...

00:23:11.000 Well, they're not one-sided for him.

00:23:12.000 I mean, here's what happened.

00:23:13.000 Special interest in the U.S. went in and opened up China...

00:23:16.000 You know, in the 70s when most of them didn't have running water or electricity.

00:23:19.000 They're hardworking, smart folks.

00:23:21.000 But by one-sided trade deals where we have higher tariffs on them and they on us and all the rest of it or vice versa, through those deals, they use the slave labor of China to then take over manufacturing worldwide. 0.93

00:23:32.000 And so China's a client state of the globalist.

00:23:35.000 And so now...

00:23:37.000 The Washington Post, the LA Times, the New York Times, I brought you the articles here.

00:23:41.000 Dreams of Red Emperor, The Relentless Rise of Xi Jinping.

00:23:44.000 And it says in these articles, he must destroy American Western Christian values.

00:23:49.000 We love him and we accept China as our master. 1.00

00:23:52.000 I have the goddamn articles. 1.00

00:23:53.000 This is treason. 1.00

00:23:55.000 Dude, right here.

00:23:56.000 Washington Post.

00:23:57.000 But who's saying that quote?

00:23:59.000 Who's that quote?

00:24:00.000 Here, I'll give them to you.

00:24:01.000 This is the Washington Post, and there's a huge article, LA Times.

00:24:04.000 I understand, but the quote that you just said about he must destroy Trump.

00:24:07.000 Just like I said, AT&T gave money to unofficially lobbying, and you pulled it up.

00:24:12.000 I read the article.

00:24:13.000 I'm not giving you an exact...

00:24:13.000 I understand what you're saying, but what I'm asking you is who you quoted someone, but who did you quote when you said that?

00:24:19.000 I'm quoting, from when I read these again this morning before I came here, what I remember, David Don...

00:24:26.000 Dury, Durley.

00:24:27.000 Oh, that guy.

00:24:27.000 And this Chinese lady that works for the...

00:24:30.000 I think he's talking about the prevailing sentiment of what they feel they must do.

00:24:34.000 I understand, but when you quote somebody, it's best...

00:24:36.000 No, no, no.

00:24:36.000 I mean, I just said in these articles...

00:24:39.000 Right.

00:24:39.000 Well, look at the headline.

00:24:40.000 Xi's Choice, Destroy Trump or Save Him from Weak in America.

00:24:43.000 I mean... 0.94

00:24:44.000 Xi needs to destroy Trump? 0.92

00:24:46.000 The Chinese dictator needs to destroy our president? 0.62

00:24:48.000 So do you think that they're doing that because Trump wants to change the trade deals with China?

00:24:53.000 You know what Trump said?

00:24:54.000 Trump didn't start a trade war.

00:24:55.000 He ended our surrender.

00:24:56.000 We have been surrendered for 40 years.

00:24:59.000 With China, where they don't take our goods, but we take all of theirs. 1.00

00:25:03.000 And they manipulate their currency, but we haven't manipulated ours.

00:25:06.000 Where we have carbon taxes that Obama put in to shut down over half our coal plants that are clean.

00:25:11.000 And our electricity prices went up where you could not run a factory here competitively against China.

00:25:15.000 So when Joe Biden says, we're going to cut off all the fossil fuels, not just fracking.

00:25:19.000 If you did that, we wouldn't just go bankrupt.

00:25:22.000 We'd starve to death.

00:25:23.000 75% of our power comes from fossil fuels.

00:25:25.000 I understand.

00:25:26.000 Step by step.

00:25:27.000 Okay.

00:25:27.000 Are coal plants really clean?

00:25:29.000 100% clean.

00:25:30.000 How is that possible?

00:25:31.000 I'll tell you.

00:25:32.000 Please.

00:25:32.000 There's two different types of major power plants.

00:25:34.000 When he says clean coal, I roll my eyes every time.

00:25:37.000 When Trump's like, clean coal, clean.

00:25:39.000 Well, that's because the engine is so damn good.

00:25:42.000 Is it?

00:25:42.000 I'll tell you.

00:25:43.000 Please.

00:25:45.000 They had old-fashioned coal plants.

00:25:47.000 China doesn't have one scrubber or filter on their coal power plants.

00:25:50.000 And China doesn't have clean burning coal.

00:25:53.000 There's one place in the United States that has major deposits of coal that is such pure carbon.

00:25:57.000 You don't even need scrubbers.

00:25:59.000 Nothing comes out but carbon dioxide and water.

00:26:02.000 Well, they know we know water's not bad, so they list carbon dioxide.

00:26:05.000 People think it's monoxide.

00:26:07.000 Just like in studies, if you say the scientific name of water, most people in Penn& Teller skits on the street will say ban dihydrogen monoxide.

00:26:14.000 If you go out on the street, Joe Rogan, and ask 100 austenites, dihydrogen monoxide is everywhere.

00:26:20.000 If you get too much of it, you can die, ground.

00:26:22.000 And most people will say, I want to ban dihydrogen monoxide.

00:26:25.000 That's the scientific name of water.

00:26:27.000 Same thing if you do the sign of it named Assault.

00:26:29.000 Sounds scary.

00:26:30.000 Well, so...

00:26:32.000 Hydrogen monoxide is the bad one.

00:26:35.000 Hydrogen dioxide is a good one.

00:26:36.000 That's the life cycle.

00:26:38.000 On Earth, there's light, there's water, there's oxygen, and there's carbon dioxide.

00:26:43.000 Those are the four things you've got to have for life.

00:26:46.000 And so they've gotten people convinced to say coal is dirty.

00:26:49.000 It puts out carbon dioxide and water vapor.

00:26:52.000 And so until about the 70s, we were still burning dirty coal full of mercury, all of it.

00:26:58.000 They found huge deposits of clean burning coal.

00:27:01.000 Out west.

00:27:02.000 Enough in Utah to run the whole world for over a thousand years.

00:27:04.000 Well, what's the difference between the coal?

00:27:06.000 Well, let me tell you.

00:27:07.000 One coal is so damn pure, and it's only in the United States in major deposits, that basically you don't even need to put scrubbers on it.

00:27:13.000 But our scientists in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s, because they realize that dirty coal has mercury in it, has all these horrible toxins, they put scrubbers on it.

00:27:20.000 That's why when you drive by a coal plant, it's this big, huge buildings and wires and hoses and big, huge steel.

00:27:26.000 It looks like an alien spaceship.

00:27:27.000 That's because it's called distillates.

00:27:29.000 They know how to burn it And then take off all the chemicals, all the toxins and make plastics and make chemicals and make pesticides and make everything else that comes out of that.

00:27:37.000 And then out of the stack comes nothing but water.

00:27:40.000 They have sensors on it.

00:27:41.000 Nothing but water and carbon dioxide.

00:27:43.000 Totally clean, totally pure.

00:27:45.000 So that's what's going on.

00:27:47.000 So carbon monoxide is what everybody's worried about.

00:27:50.000 Carbon dioxide increasing in the environment has no negative effects?

00:27:55.000 Let's talk about it.

00:27:56.000 They've done ice core samples all over the Antarctic and the Arctic.

00:28:00.000 They've done mud core samples all over the world, but mainly in Siberia and Wales for some reason.

00:28:07.000 Jamie, I hope you're Googling.

00:28:08.000 I haven't got some decent stuff to pull up, but he's better right now.

00:28:12.000 So what happens is They can go back 20,000, 100,000, 200,000 years at least in the ice, and they know that they've also done spectrometers into stone.

00:28:23.000 They can scan it until it was there.

00:28:25.000 Carbon dioxide was over 500 times stronger in the time of the T-Rex.

00:28:31.000 Okay, in the Jurassic Age.

00:28:33.000 That's why plants grew so fast.

00:28:34.000 Things were so big.

00:28:35.000 There was a higher oxygen level.

00:28:37.000 Just like Mars lost its atmosphere.

00:28:39.000 It used to have an ocean they've now gone and proven.

00:28:41.000 It lost its atmosphere.

00:28:42.000 It's a smaller planet, couldn't hold it.

00:28:44.000 The truth is the Earth's losing its atmosphere.

00:28:45.000 So what's crazy is we come right along at this time, pump up all of this juice and all this carbon that was produced on the surface with plants and animals that ran down in cracks into the Earth.

00:28:55.000 We're now pumping out all that carbon saved from millions of years ago and actually terraforming the planet, putting more carbon dioxide in that we actually need right at this time.

00:29:04.000 Like, aliens figure this out or something.

00:29:05.000 But hold, hold, please.

00:29:07.000 Isn't carbon dioxide responsible for an increase in the temperature of the Earth?

00:29:12.000 But they said that we would have a seven increase.

00:29:14.000 They said that by 2013, LA would be flooded and New York would be flooded.

00:29:18.000 All that's lies.

00:29:19.000 Okay, but let's forget about what they said in the past.

00:29:21.000 What they're saying now is that carbon dioxide increase is responsible for an increase.

00:29:28.000 In the temperature of the Earth.

00:29:30.000 Which we hope it does.

00:29:32.000 We hope it increases the temperature of the Earth.

00:29:34.000 We're set.

00:29:34.000 The last ice age.

00:29:35.000 But hold on.

00:29:36.000 The increase in the temperature of the Earth is responsible for the increase in hurricanes, the frequency and the power of the hurricanes.

00:29:44.000 If you look up the spectrum in the last hundred years, hurricanes have gotten weaker.

00:29:48.000 That's all media hype.

00:29:49.000 But let me just tell you.

00:29:50.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:29:51.000 Joe, Joe, Joe, I swear to God.

00:29:53.000 I swear to God I can prove all this to you.

00:29:54.000 This is so huge for your audience.

00:29:56.000 Are you a carbon dioxide salesman?

00:29:58.000 Listen, well, they always say I'm getting money from oil companies.

00:30:00.000 I'm not.

00:30:00.000 But can I please tell you what's going on?

00:30:02.000 Yes, please do.

00:30:04.000 You are a carbon-based life form.

00:30:06.000 Let me show you what I came here with in my notes.

00:30:09.000 I have right here in my notes the carbon conspiracy.

00:30:14.000 And that is specifically what I wanted to get into here with you in my notes because this is everything.

00:30:21.000 Are you a climate change denier?

00:30:23.000 Well, see, imagine.

00:30:24.000 Imagine how that's how they use that term.

00:30:26.000 Right.

00:30:26.000 Are you a climate change denier?

00:30:27.000 It's like a 9-11 denier.

00:30:29.000 Right.

00:30:29.000 No, the towers got blown up.

00:30:30.000 Our government had prior warning and had been funding Al-Qaeda and all that came out later in Senate reports.

00:30:35.000 And the 28 pages.

00:30:36.000 Let's not go there just now, because we're going to go down a rabbit hole.

00:30:38.000 That's true, but let's go to carbon.

00:30:40.000 I agree with you there.

00:30:41.000 Okay, what is Joe Rogan made up out of?

00:30:45.000 Carbon.

00:30:46.000 Carbon-based life form.

00:30:47.000 We are literally stardust.

00:30:49.000 It's a song, right?

00:30:49.000 Exactly.

00:30:50.000 What are trees made out of?

00:30:53.000 Tree stuff?

00:30:54.000 Carbon.

00:30:55.000 Carbon.

00:30:55.000 Yeah, carbon-based life forms.

00:30:57.000 The whole planet.

00:30:58.000 And so this is the carbon cycle.

00:31:00.000 This is in the mainline textbooks.

00:31:01.000 I understand.

00:31:02.000 So just like they come out in assault reality now and say a little boy is biologically a girl.

00:31:08.000 I don't care if he grows up and wants to say he's a girl.

00:31:10.000 Again, rabbit hole.

00:31:10.000 Let's not go down these rabbit holes.

00:31:11.000 But I'm saying it's not science.

00:31:13.000 They go, the science is settled.

00:31:14.000 There's not two genders. 1.00

00:31:15.000 B fucking S. Okay, hold on. 0.99

00:31:17.000 Let's not go down that road. 0.96

00:31:18.000 Do you want to go to that road in the future?

00:31:20.000 We will.

00:31:20.000 Right now, I want you to talk about carbon.

00:31:23.000 I know.

00:31:23.000 I don't want to get off track here because isn't there a delicate balance with the temperature on Earth and the rising sea levels and the melting of the ice caps?

00:31:31.000 This has all been established by a lot of very concerned environmentalists.

00:31:35.000 But very concerned environmentalists have said that an increase in the temperature of the Earth could be disastrous for human civilization.

00:31:43.000 It's a power grab.

00:31:43.000 Are you sure it's a power grab?

00:31:45.000 Absolutely.

00:31:46.000 But how do you know that it's not all...

00:31:48.000 How do you know that...

00:31:49.000 Because they're arrogant and they've all written white papers on it that I've read and I can give you. 0.82

00:31:53.000 White papers? 0.61

00:31:54.000 Yeah, it's not what you see in the news.

00:31:56.000 They're called white papers.

00:31:58.000 And Joe, just like Joe...

00:32:00.000 This is why people get banned from the internet.

00:32:03.000 These kind of conversations.

00:32:05.000 We better ban it right now.

00:32:07.000 Let's not ban it.

00:32:08.000 I'm just...

00:32:09.000 I'll throw that out.

00:32:10.000 Let's just not...

00:32:11.000 Let's certainly not ban the channel and YouTube page, which is fantastic, by the way.

00:32:15.000 What?

00:32:15.000 Your YouTube page.

00:32:16.000 Thank you.

00:32:16.000 Let me tell you this right now.

00:32:18.000 It'll be up for another 24 hours.

00:32:19.000 They have called in the European Union for the arrest of scientists...

00:32:28.000 Okay, but there is a contributing factor.

00:32:32.000 Scientifically, it's been proven that increased carbon dioxide has an effect on the temperature of the earth.

00:32:38.000 Do you agree with that?

00:32:40.000 It depends on the models they use.

00:32:42.000 Sometimes, actually, more carbon dioxide can cause a cooling effect, but generally can cause a heating effect.

00:32:46.000 It depends on potash, the atmosphere, volcanic ejections at the time, and also solar maximum and minimums.

00:32:54.000 Sunspot activity is the main generator of planetary climate.

00:32:57.000 But the wide...

00:32:59.000 If you had a giant swath of scientists that are examining carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, would you agree that the majority of them believe that it's a contributing factor to the warming of the earth?

00:33:09.000 Joe, it's a mantra where they say the majority of scientists agree that climate change is caused by humans.

00:33:15.000 I agree with climate change.

00:33:17.000 The only thing that's constant is change.

00:33:19.000 Of course the climate's changing.

00:33:20.000 What I'm telling you is carbon dioxide was 50 to 500 times, depending on the time period, What do you think the motivation is for them to present the evidence in this way?

00:33:38.000 Like you said, this is a fraud and everything.

00:33:41.000 Because I've heard you talk about this before.

00:33:44.000 What do you think their goal is by linking all of this climate change to man-made activity?

00:33:50.000 What's the goal?

00:33:52.000 The goal is a centralized world government that can then monitor all carbon and control it as a toxic bad thing.

00:33:57.000 You're carbon.

00:33:58.000 It makes you bad.

00:33:59.000 That didn't work.

00:33:59.000 So now it's, oh, you have a cold.

00:34:01.000 You're dirty with COVID. We've got to track you and tax you and control you. 0.99

00:34:04.000 So the new thing is COVID to cut the carbon footprint.

00:34:07.000 Before we go down the COVID rabbit hole.

00:34:10.000 The environmentalists are not in bed with the industrialists.

00:34:14.000 The environmentalists, they're not in bed with all these people that think that they can control the world's...

00:34:21.000 Actually, BP and ExxonMobil and others are the biggest funders of the climate change movement.

00:34:25.000 They're the biggest funders of it?

00:34:27.000 Contrary to what you hear.

00:34:29.000 How so?

00:34:30.000 All right, Joe, here's the thing.

00:34:31.000 I understand this, and you're a smart guy, and I understand you want to go over each piece of this.

00:34:35.000 Let's go through...

00:34:35.000 Yeah, well, we have to.

00:34:36.000 We have to.

00:34:37.000 I agree.

00:34:37.000 Let's go through each piece.

00:34:38.000 But understand, you understand that the way you talk, and I enjoy the way you talk.

00:34:41.000 It's fast. 0.76

00:34:42.000 But the way you talk is fast, and you go on these long tangents, and then you go to frogs being gay, and a lot of things happen. 0.85

00:34:48.000 I want to do it...

00:34:48.000 And people can...

00:34:49.000 Because I'm putting a record out.

00:34:50.000 Yes, but I want to do it step by step.

00:34:52.000 All right, let's do this.

00:34:53.000 Let's do this.

00:34:54.000 But most people, the vast majority...

00:34:56.000 Here we got here.

00:34:56.000 BP commits $100 million to fund new emissions reductions projects.

00:35:02.000 But let me just go back for a second.

00:35:03.000 Okay.

00:35:03.000 And I appreciate you backing me up.

00:35:04.000 Yes.

00:35:06.000 Let me break down. 0.97

00:35:10.000 Are frogs gay? 0.97

00:35:12.000 You want to get to the frog stuff now? 0.99

00:35:14.000 We will.

00:35:15.000 Connect it all.

00:35:16.000 That is, by the way...

00:35:17.000 Why do I feel like I'm stoned and I haven't smoked my pot?

00:35:18.000 Yeah, I wish I was stoned.

00:35:19.000 If he's not going to smoke it, I'm going to...

00:35:21.000 Oh, God.

00:35:21.000 It's sober October.

00:35:22.000 I have six days left. 1.00

00:35:23.000 Break the goddamn rule and then go an extra day. 1.00

00:35:25.000 I cannot. 1.00

00:35:26.000 I cannot.

00:35:26.000 I'm like George Washington.

00:35:27.000 Well, hey, on election night, we're going to get hammered, right?

00:35:29.000 Mm-hmm.

00:35:30.000 Election night.

00:35:31.000 I'm getting hammered.

00:35:32.000 I'm going to pop in.

00:35:33.000 You can pop in.

00:35:35.000 But we've told everybody now that we're doing a live election night show.

00:35:37.000 No, no, no, we're not.

00:35:38.000 Kyle Kalinske, Tim Dillon, me, Alex Jones is going to pop in live.

00:35:44.000 It's going to be fun.

00:35:45.000 It's live, so while you're watching the world burn, live.

00:35:48.000 All right, Joe, here's the thing.

00:35:50.000 It's just like...

00:35:52.000 Let me explain it to you because I love you.

00:35:53.000 Dude, it's just like when you said, what's the AT&T deal?

00:35:56.000 And I went, oh, look it up.

00:35:57.000 But listen, we did look it up and we found some information.

00:36:00.000 This is bigger.

00:36:01.000 Okay.

00:36:02.000 Let me get my brain focused here for a minute.

00:36:04.000 Let me just try to explain it.

00:36:04.000 Please do.

00:36:06.000 I've literally interviewed probably, let's not exaggerate, 200 top scientists from petroleum geologists to astrophysicists to astronauts to quantum mechanics to petroleum...

00:36:18.000 Buckle up, because I have two. 0.98

00:36:19.000 I know. 1.00

00:36:19.000 I'm a moron. 1.00

00:36:20.000 I know. 1.00

00:36:20.000 Okay? 1.00

00:36:21.000 You're a moron? 1.00

00:36:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:22.000 No, you're not. 1.00

00:36:22.000 Yeah, trust me. 1.00

00:36:23.000 Joe, you're a smart guy.

00:36:25.000 That's his cover.

00:36:26.000 He is smart.

00:36:27.000 Oh, yeah, right.

00:36:28.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

00:36:29.000 I'm a smart moron. 1.00

00:36:30.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Okay, let me tell you what's going on.

00:36:33.000 I'm going to say it again.

00:36:34.000 You can go to any major study.

00:36:37.000 Just type in...

00:36:39.000 Carbon dioxide levels were hundreds of times higher in Earth's early past.

00:36:44.000 Well, I understand that, but also I understand that...

00:36:47.000 But wait, wait, wait!

00:36:47.000 You can look at the ocean models then.

00:36:49.000 Yes.

00:36:50.000 You can look at the ocean models.

00:36:51.000 Right.

00:36:51.000 And it's true, the oceans didn't cover more than you do.

00:36:53.000 Yeah, but in Alex Jones, human beings weren't alive 65 million years ago, and the environment wasn't compatible for us.

00:36:58.000 We put out a fraction.

00:36:59.000 We hadn't developed yet.

00:37:01.000 Right, well, we were moles.

00:37:02.000 We hadn't.

00:37:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:03.000 Shrews.

00:37:04.000 Shrews, yeah.

00:37:05.000 But my point is, you're right.

00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:07.000 Is that...

00:37:09.000 Last time CO2 was this high, humans didn't exist.

00:37:11.000 The last time there was as much carbon dioxide, CO2 in the earth, CO2 levels are far higher now than they have been for any time during the past.

00:37:20.000 And oil, a single CO2 milk who can remain in the atmosphere, what'd you do?

00:37:26.000 Oh, I see.

00:37:27.000 I understand.

00:37:28.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:37:29.000 So let's just go to what this says.

00:37:31.000 And what is this paper that's...

00:37:33.000 Is this climatecentral.org?

00:37:36.000 Okay.

00:37:37.000 The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere, modern humans didn't exist.

00:37:41.000 Megatooth sharks prowled the oceans, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:43.000 All right.

00:37:44.000 As we near the record for the highest CO2 concentrations in human history, 400 parts per million, climate scientists worry...

00:37:57.000 We're good to go.

00:38:13.000 Sure, and I've had top scientists on, I've had climatologists on about the Keeling curve.

00:38:17.000 I can tell you all this.

00:38:17.000 Here's a threshold according to Ralph Keeling, the researcher.

00:38:21.000 Carbon dioxide is the most important long-lived global warming gas.

00:38:25.000 And once it's emitted by burning fossil fuels...

00:38:28.000 It helps us keep our atmosphere.

00:38:30.000 Hold, please.

00:38:31.000 Once it's emitted by burning fossil fuels such as coal and oil, a single CO2 molecule can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years.

00:38:40.000 Global CO2 emissions reached a record high of 35.6 billion tons in 2012, up 2.6% from 2011. Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases warmed the planet by absorbing the sun's energy and preventing heat from escaping back into space,

00:38:56.000 which means it enhances the atmosphere, right?

00:38:58.000 But the sea levels didn't go up like they said.

00:39:01.000 Well, aren't they melting?

00:39:03.000 Al Gore said by 2013...

00:39:05.000 Al Gore.

00:39:07.000 Joe, listen, this is one guy's take.

00:39:09.000 I know, but Al Gore's out there flying around.

00:39:11.000 I know, I know.

00:39:11.000 You found a guy admitting it used to be higher than it is now.

00:39:14.000 I'm telling you, it used to be way higher than it is now.

00:39:17.000 Right, but then the asteroid hit the Yucatan, killed all the dinosaurs, and changed the entire atmosphere of the planet.

00:39:23.000 With a dark winter.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, it was very bad for everything.

00:39:26.000 Caused by atmospheric dust. 0.93

00:39:27.000 For a long fucking time, right? 0.98

00:39:29.000 One major volcano, like Mount St. Helens, they estimated, put out more dust than decades of human dust. 0.99

00:39:36.000 Yes.

00:39:36.000 And human dust is what helps cause nucleotiform to cause storms.

00:39:40.000 So we are affecting our environment.

00:39:41.000 But most of the astrophysicists and most of the physicists I've talked to, most of the climatologists I've talked to, They have broken down that the sun, by magnitude, is 98% of the driver of what happens.

00:39:54.000 That's why when the sunspots take place, it's an erroneous ejection from the sun, and one of those shoots radiation in our direction, it'll be clear blue sky, but they know when we get hit by that, it hits our magnetic field and causes an ionization of the atmosphere and electrification of it,

00:40:11.000 and so that causes the giant storms.

00:40:14.000 So the main driver of climate is the sun.

00:40:16.000 And I think everybody didn't be a scientist to know, what's the main thing that Earth's living off of?

00:40:21.000 The sun.

00:40:22.000 The sun.

00:40:23.000 And so they're telling us that carbon dioxide does this.

00:40:26.000 What happens is, as carbon dioxide goes up, they said can be in the atmosphere for hundreds of years.

00:40:31.000 It's normally absorbed by plants immediately, who they've got studies.

00:40:35.000 They have found giant crocodile skeletons from just 10,000 years ago in the central Sahara, when hundreds of square miles is nothing but dunes.

00:40:44.000 10,000 years ago, it was lush jungles and beautiful, but they had goats, and they ate all of the plants and killed the Earth.

00:40:53.000 Well, there's also the Younger Dryas theory of asteroid impacts that ended the Ice Age.

00:40:59.000 12,000 years ago.

00:41:00.000 Yeah, well, two impacts.

00:41:01.000 I believe there's 12, and then somewhere...

00:41:04.000 But the answer is we don't know.

00:41:06.000 And so they've now looked at all these big models saying that it's all carbon dioxide, and it's not.

00:41:11.000 It's the sun, it's asteroids, it's tectonic, it's electromagnetic from the Earth's core.

00:41:16.000 I understand all this, but isn't CO2 emissions the one thing that we can control?

00:41:20.000 So human-created global warming gases like CO2 emissions, if we can put a cap on that, wouldn't you agree?

00:41:27.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:41:28.000 But if we continue to put that stuff in the atmosphere, and it continues to get higher and higher and higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, wouldn't that...

00:41:36.000 The studies show it's going to make deserts become green again, and plants are going to absorb the carbon.

00:41:44.000 What studies are these?

00:41:45.000 You can look them up.

00:41:46.000 Okay, let's find out.

00:41:47.000 And that's why the left even says...

00:41:48.000 But if you're going to say something like that, and I'm not arguing with you, but if you are going to say something like that, that's a very bold thing to say.

00:41:55.000 You should probably not just say, look them up.

00:41:57.000 There should be something...

00:41:58.000 Let's type it in.

00:41:59.000 Let's type it in.

00:41:59.000 There's hundreds of them.

00:42:00.000 I actually brought like over 50 articles right here.

00:42:03.000 Do you have something that you've read that makes you so confident that you can say this?

00:42:07.000 I actually know what the plant studies show, where in greenhouses, they grow plants with higher carbon dioxide.

00:42:14.000 And plants can grow up to three times faster.

00:42:17.000 They live longer.

00:42:18.000 Of course.

00:42:18.000 Plants live off carbon dioxide.

00:42:20.000 And what do they put out more?

00:42:21.000 Oxygen.

00:42:22.000 Well, this one thing that has been proven is that there's more plants now than there have been in a long time.

00:42:27.000 There's a global greening happening, countering us losing our atmosphere up until this point.

00:42:32.000 The Earth has less atmosphere than it did a million years ago, and it's like God did this or something where we discovered all this oil, which is blind luck that we are terraforming the planet back to an earlier, healthier state by taking ancient carbon that was under the ground and putting it back into the atmosphere.

00:42:48.000 But isn't the problem that along the way we're also increasing the temperature of the planet and we are not aligned with a higher temperature?

00:42:55.000 Here's the truth.

00:42:56.000 We don't know.

00:42:57.000 We don't know.

00:42:58.000 But in 1963, the Club of Rome came up with a Limits to Growth Plan.

00:43:02.000 And they had models and actuaries.

00:43:04.000 And I have copies of this in my film, Endgame.

00:43:06.000 Seminole film.

00:43:06.000 It's free online.

00:43:07.000 Endgame blueprint for global enslavement predicts a virus released to lock things down.

00:43:11.000 Everything's still happening because it's in their own documents.

00:43:13.000 And in the 1963 Limits to Growth Club of Rome plan, they said, we believe there'll be a global ice age by 2020 because the last ice age ended about 12,000 years ago and we're set for that.

00:43:25.000 We're going to tell the public that Actually, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is bouncing solar radiation off the Earth because we've seen volcanoes cause this darkening effect in freezing.

00:43:38.000 So we believe, our scientists believe, that carbon dioxide is going to make the Earth freeze by 2020. And so we've got to have a global regime to take control of all the factories and all the energy and put a tax in for global government in the name of stopping the Ice Age.

00:43:51.000 Then by about 1987, they went, actually, we think it's going to heat up instead.

00:43:55.000 So they flipped the propaganda.

00:43:58.000 Ask anybody you know.

00:43:59.000 Okay, but don't you understand that science back then didn't have as much data as they have now?

00:44:05.000 So their models and what they had predicted in 1963 is faulty compared to the information they have in 2020. Yeah, just like Fauci said 2.5 million would be dead from COVID. It was 207,000.

00:44:17.000 But worldwide, what is it?

00:44:21.000 Worldwide, tuberculosis killed 20 million people, 1.4 million here last year, but nobody cares. 0.96

00:44:25.000 COVID killed a lot of people worldwide.

00:44:26.000 COVID-19 killed a million worldwide.

00:44:28.000 What?

00:44:29.000 Not even a million worldwide.

00:44:30.000 No, is that true?

00:44:31.000 Yep.

00:44:32.000 Come on.

00:44:32.000 Yep.

00:44:33.000 Well, how do we know?

00:44:34.000 Oh, we use UN models.

00:44:36.000 Again, they're our boss.

00:44:37.000 Since when did the WHO say the lockdown has to go on?

00:44:40.000 Now they go, oh, we're against the lockdown.

00:44:42.000 Your nation states that it's their fault because they know millions are starving to death from the lockdown.

00:44:47.000 That is true and very underreported that the WHO has now come out against lockdown saying that the reaction can't be a worse effect than the actual disease itself.

00:44:57.000 So let me back Alex up with the climate change.

00:44:59.000 It's like there's certainly, you know, we're contributing to man-made global warming.

00:45:04.000 But also, what are you going to do?

00:45:06.000 What are we going to do?

00:45:07.000 I don't know.

00:45:07.000 What's going on?

00:45:08.000 I mean, that's another question.

00:45:09.000 What are we going to do?

00:45:09.000 Why does his mic sound weird?

00:45:11.000 Is it he's hot?

00:45:12.000 Is he on it?

00:45:13.000 Or is it how I'm hearing it?

00:45:15.000 I'm hearing like a breakup of his mic.

00:45:17.000 Sounds good to me.

00:45:18.000 Sounds fine to me, yeah.

00:45:19.000 That's weird.

00:45:20.000 Okay.

00:45:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:45:21.000 It must be me.

00:45:22.000 Jamie's really low.

00:45:23.000 You sound great.

00:45:23.000 He sounds good.

00:45:24.000 Yeah.

00:45:24.000 Okay.

00:45:25.000 What is the climate control?

00:45:26.000 Because that's very interesting.

00:45:27.000 Like the idea of using climate to control, because as you said with COVID, and we talked about this, we give up a lot of rights, right?

00:45:36.000 In the name of coronavirus.

00:45:38.000 Exactly.

00:45:39.000 Look, there's real issues.

00:45:40.000 We don't really know what's going on.

00:45:41.000 They want to be able to track all carbon and tax it with an AI surveillance grid with a social credit score over it.

00:45:48.000 And they admit all of that.

00:45:50.000 Joe, they tell us what they're going to do.

00:45:51.000 Okay, I understand that.

00:45:52.000 But do you understand that the environmentalists who are concerned are not – there's a giant – Amount of them that are legitimately concerned that we're ruining the earth.

00:46:01.000 Yes, I understand the greenhouse effect.

00:46:03.000 Fossil fuels.

00:46:04.000 I understand the greenhouse effect.

00:46:05.000 But these people, the reason why they're acting, the reason why they're trying to get people on electric cars and trying to get people off of fossil fuels, hold up, please, they're legitimately concerned.

00:46:15.000 Like, I don't believe that these actual environmentalists are in on something global conspiracy.

00:46:18.000 Sure, I agree with you, but I mean, here's the deal.

00:46:20.000 The new Hummer looks badass.

00:46:22.000 Here's the deal.

00:46:23.000 Here's the deal.

00:46:24.000 But I'm not getting one because I don't want to contribute to global warming.

00:46:27.000 You don't want to contribute to global warming?

00:46:28.000 Listen, be serious.

00:46:29.000 Did you know that on average more carbon is spent for electricity into a car than 93 octane gasoline? 0.99

00:46:41.000 Well, I would believe that because I would think it takes a lot to make a fucking electric car. 0.97

00:46:46.000 But once the car is made... 0.99

00:46:48.000 No, no, no.

00:46:50.000 Transmission lines.

00:46:51.000 You lose up to half of transmission and most of it's coal-powered, brother.

00:46:55.000 So most of the electricity...

00:46:57.000 Per megawatt, it's more.

00:46:59.000 So when I'm plugging my Tesla in and I think...

00:47:02.000 Because that's how I like to think.

00:47:03.000 I'm a good guy.

00:47:04.000 I'm plugging my Tesla in.

00:47:05.000 I'm helping save the world.

00:47:06.000 I'm not because I'm contributing to...

00:47:09.000 No, you're contributing to putting carbon dioxide back in and oxygen and re-terraforming the planet.

00:47:16.000 You're doing a badass job.

00:47:17.000 The biggest energy guzzlers, electric cars, are badass.

00:47:21.000 They are putting out more carbon than anybody.

00:47:24.000 Yeah!

00:47:24.000 They don't come out the tailpipe.

00:47:26.000 They come out the power plant top.

00:47:27.000 Woo! 0.99

00:47:28.000 I love electric cars.

00:47:30.000 Carbon!

00:47:30.000 Yeah!

00:47:31.000 Team carbon!

00:47:32.000 Carbon!

00:47:33.000 Carbon!

00:47:34.000 Okay, how do you feel about nuclear power?

00:47:36.000 I absolutely hate it.

00:47:38.000 Why do you hate it?

00:47:39.000 Isn't it clean?

00:47:40.000 Oh, 94...

00:47:42.000 Joe, I'm not trying to tear you up.

00:47:44.000 Don't tear me up.

00:47:44.000 I don't know anything.

00:47:45.000 I told you I'm a moron. 1.00

00:47:46.000 No, no, no, no, no. 1.00

00:47:46.000 I used to be for nuclear power. 1.00

00:47:48.000 Oh, what happened?

00:47:49.000 I actually did research.

00:47:50.000 What research did you do?

00:47:52.000 They're always saying it's totally clean, no problem.

00:47:55.000 But then you can look at the UN's own numbers, which I believe, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

00:47:59.000 Look this up, CBS News.

00:48:01.000 94% of nuclear plants are leaking at dangerous levels.

00:48:05.000 Look this up.

00:48:06.000 Pause.

00:48:08.000 Jamie, 94% of nuclear power plants are leaking at dangerous levels.

00:48:13.000 Isn't the problem that we're using old tech like Fukushima?

00:48:16.000 See, you're smart.

00:48:18.000 You always know everything, Joe.

00:48:19.000 The average power plant age is 36 years.

00:48:22.000 Almost all these power plants, life is 20 to 35 years.

00:48:26.000 Fukushima was already a decade older than it was supposed to be, a general electric model, using plutonium.

00:48:31.000 Radioactive leaks found at 75% of U.S. nuke sites.

00:48:34.000 Yeah, it's worse than that.

00:48:35.000 It's 94%.

00:48:37.000 Okay, well that's not good.

00:48:40.000 I don't know why 94 doesn't pop up.

00:48:42.000 But wouldn't it be possible with innovation that they currently have access to?

00:48:47.000 Yes, yes.

00:48:49.000 You talk about corrupt companies.

00:48:51.000 Listen, if people actually ran these right, and the executives, here's an example, BP. I think oil's great.

00:48:57.000 It has toxic problems.

00:48:58.000 We should clean it up.

00:48:59.000 We should find alternatives.

00:49:00.000 There's all sorts of clean energy we should go to that isn't.

00:49:04.000 Solar's great, whatever.

00:49:05.000 They've got fission, fusion, a bunch of stuff coming down.

00:49:07.000 One of the best films out there, because it's so accurate, because I had lawyers on from the...

00:49:11.000 I read the transcript of the trial.

00:49:13.000 The Event Horizon with BP. They literally have all these degreed engineers out there, and BP calls them up from England to Houston and says, you're spending $25 million a day on this super deep experimental whale.

00:49:28.000 We've decided to not pour concrete, they call it mud, in on top of this...

00:49:33.000 The executives say, we'll save $25 million a day if you dump water.

00:49:38.000 And all the engineers went, we have mathematical equations, just like water boils at a certain amount.

00:49:42.000 Or we have a certain number of chromosomes.

00:49:44.000 This is fact.

00:49:45.000 And they, on record, go, you're fired if you don't.

00:49:48.000 Order them to dump water into it.

00:49:50.000 So they follow the order, dump water in for five days, and it blows up because water didn't have enough pressure to hold what was going to be coming out when they finally hit that giant oil and gas deposit down there at 20,000 feet under the ground or whatever it was.

00:50:03.000 Super deep well.

00:50:04.000 It was deeper than that.

00:50:05.000 So you watch that movie with Kurt Russell and the rest of it and Marky Mark.

00:50:10.000 Wasn't Event Horizon the one where they find...

00:50:13.000 I'm sorry, Event Horizon is where they go...

00:50:15.000 Event Horizon is a spaceship.

00:50:17.000 Yeah, that's the one where they're in space.

00:50:19.000 I'm trying to remember oil in Event Horizon.

00:50:21.000 I'm like, wait a minute, Lawrence Fishburne, right?

00:50:23.000 Yeah, I think. 0.99

00:50:24.000 They go to hell. 1.00

00:50:25.000 Here's my brain. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Deepwater Horizon.

00:50:28.000 Yeah, but pull up Event Horizon, because that's a great fucking movie. 0.99

00:50:30.000 I love that movie. 0.99

00:50:31.000 It's like they go into hell, they go into a new dimension.

00:50:33.000 It's a good one.

00:50:34.000 But see how my brain got that wrong, but it was not on purpose.

00:50:37.000 No, it's okay. 1.00

00:50:38.000 That's the shit. 1.00

00:50:39.000 He pulls his eyeballs out, he tells everybody, yeah, remember that? 1.00

00:50:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:43.000 That's a great fucking movie. 1.00

00:50:44.000 Pure evil. 1.00

00:50:45.000 But listen, I'm not trying to rant here.

00:50:46.000 What I'm telling you, Joe, is it's the same thing with nuclear power plants.

00:50:50.000 Why would the executives at BP order their engineers to do something that was going to blow up? 1.00

00:50:55.000 They just said, you engineers are full of crap. 0.99

00:50:56.000 We're going to make money. 1.00

00:50:57.000 Do you think they might just be arrogant engineers on Adderall and they made a big mistake?

00:51:00.000 No, no.

00:51:01.000 Yeah, that's what happened.

00:51:02.000 Could be.

00:51:03.000 Could be.

00:51:03.000 That's what happened.

00:51:04.000 That is what happened?

00:51:07.000 Well...

00:51:07.000 Well, those guys are probably tweaked out, right?

00:51:09.000 Those executives?

00:51:11.000 What I'm saying, it wasn't engineers.

00:51:12.000 It was the executives.

00:51:13.000 Yeah, but executives.

00:51:14.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:51:15.000 Why do you think they were like, keep pouring water in it, keep pouring water in it? 0.77

00:51:19.000 Because they were insane.

00:51:20.000 Right.

00:51:20.000 I mean, that's what I'm saying about these nuclear...

00:51:22.000 Okay, so the engineers are at the mercy of these executives who don't have the degrees the engineers have, and they made a crucial error, and they forced the engineers to do something that was ultimately...

00:51:31.000 And so I was agreeing with you about we should listen to scientists and engineers.

00:51:35.000 I was just going back to your point that, yeah, we don't know about the warming.

00:51:39.000 We don't know what it's doing.

00:51:40.000 The models they all use on warming...

00:51:43.000 Factor out the sun.

00:51:44.000 Right.

00:51:44.000 And you can't factor out the sun in an equation.

00:51:46.000 I've had other scientists that factor the sun in, and they think, despite all we're doing, that within the next 200 years, we're going to a very serious, deep ice age.

00:51:54.000 I think Alex's point is that in all of these things, there are legitimate things, you know, COVID has, there are real things, people getting sick, global warming, you know, to an extent, I'm sure, is Is happening.

00:52:05.000 Of course it's happening.

00:52:06.000 But then there are also nefarious characters that want to use that to take away your freedom.

00:52:10.000 There are people that don't want you owning a car.

00:52:13.000 There's all these legacy systems.

00:52:15.000 Whitney Webb is a journalist who came on my show said a lot of people didn't want to reopen the economy until they remade the economy.

00:52:21.000 And got rid of all these legacy systems.

00:52:23.000 And this is a doc with Eric Schmidt, who was the head of Google, and you can look it up.

00:52:26.000 And they were saying, you know, they were considering these legacy systems like cash, private ownership of cars, you know, things like that.

00:52:33.000 Like, getting rid of all of these things that are distinctly American ways of life and just saying that, like, we don't want you to own a car.

00:52:41.000 This is the most important thing that's been said here today.

00:52:44.000 That's why I'm here.

00:52:46.000 One step at a time, though.

00:52:47.000 Why would they want to get rid of private ownership of cars?

00:52:50.000 Because they want control of people, and if you allow them to drive their own cars and use cash and run their own businesses and live in their own homes...

00:52:57.000 Okay, but let's start with cars.

00:52:58.000 Vertical integration.

00:52:59.000 Let's start with cars.

00:53:00.000 Don't you think that maybe the concern is they're looking at the future of autonomous vehicles, which would drastically lower the mortality rate on highways, and they're saying...

00:53:08.000 I mean, are the people that run this country, Joe, concerned with the mortality rate?

00:53:12.000 I mean, they're bombing other countries to doing this, to doing that.

00:53:15.000 Okay, but stop, stop, stop.

00:53:15.000 They want centralized control.

00:53:17.000 Hold, please.

00:53:17.000 We're concerned.

00:53:18.000 Steve Wozniak, the founder of Apple, says the best AI is not as good as an ant's brain.

00:53:23.000 Hold this thought.

00:53:23.000 Yeah.

00:53:24.000 But hold this thought.

00:53:24.000 The mortality rate on highways.

00:53:26.000 Listen, you can't think that the people...

00:53:28.000 These people are in the woods with hoods on.

00:53:29.000 But the people at Google that are working on autonomous vehicles...

00:53:33.000 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 They're not the same people that are trying to control governments outside the world.

00:53:37.000 But it's controlled by those guys.

00:53:38.000 All of those people at Google want to usher in a brave new world.

00:53:42.000 They want to remake the world in the way that they want to.

00:53:46.000 But you're saying all these people.

00:53:47.000 Some of them are just writing software to make a better pixel.

00:53:49.000 Some of them are, sure.

00:53:49.000 Some of them are.

00:53:50.000 But there's a lot of them that are not, Joe. 0.99

00:53:52.000 I feel like I'm the fucking voice of reason. 0.98

00:53:54.000 How is this possible? 0.99

00:53:55.000 They're the tech utopians.

00:53:57.000 I'm not high.

00:53:58.000 I should be high.

00:53:58.000 I'd be right along with you.

00:54:00.000 Yeah, you're very combative.

00:54:01.000 Joe?

00:54:01.000 These are utopians.

00:54:02.000 They want to create a paradise on earth.

00:54:04.000 Joe, I brought you...

00:54:05.000 Through control.

00:54:06.000 I brought you the documents, Joe. 0.98

00:54:07.000 I'm sucking on this cigar.

00:54:08.000 Joe, we have the documents! 0.98

00:54:10.000 I'm sucking on this cigar like it's a jelly donut.

00:54:12.000 I'm hoping I can get you the weed on the inside. 0.62

00:54:15.000 I'm like, I'm licking the outside.

00:54:16.000 What do you got there?

00:54:17.000 A piece of paper?

00:54:17.000 Dang it.

00:54:20.000 What does it say?

00:54:21.000 What does it say?

00:54:22.000 I think it's confirming what I just said.

00:54:24.000 Looking forward to the end of humanity.

00:54:25.000 What is this?

00:54:26.000 See?

00:54:27.000 Okay, but it's a person who wrote this.

00:54:29.000 It's Adam Kerr. 0.83

00:54:30.000 She's probably got a pistol in his mouth right now. 1.00

00:54:32.000 No, that's the Wall Street Journal cover story.

00:54:34.000 I don't really mean that, Adam.

00:54:35.000 I apologize.

00:54:36.000 That's the Wall Street Journal cover story.

00:54:37.000 May I please tell you what I came here for?

00:54:39.000 You came here for a reason?

00:54:41.000 Yes.

00:54:41.000 Hold on.

00:54:42.000 Here it is.

00:54:43.000 COVID-19 has spotlighted the promise and peril of transhumanism, the idea of using technology to overcome sickness, aging, and death.

00:54:52.000 Okay, but what is he saying?

00:54:54.000 I used to fall asleep every night listening to Alex talk about this, so I want to let Alex talk about this.

00:54:58.000 Until they took him off YouTube!

00:54:59.000 He was the way I fell asleep every night. 0.93

00:55:01.000 Not only did they do that, but do you know they fucking took a Young Turks podcast yesterday off of Facebook? 0.81

00:55:08.000 Let's talk about that in a minute. 0.83

00:55:09.000 Can we get some weed in the air?

00:55:10.000 Progressive!

00:55:11.000 Yeah, we can get some.

00:55:12.000 We got some on the outside.

00:55:13.000 Yeah.

00:55:13.000 You need it.

00:55:13.000 No, I can't.

00:55:14.000 If I blow it at you, like you got a cat high? 0.97

00:55:16.000 Does that not cheat it if I blow it in your face? 0.97

00:55:19.000 I can't do it. 0.99

00:55:20.000 I'll blow it in your face. 0.99

00:55:21.000 I can't do it. 0.98

00:55:22.000 Listen, I'm getting kind of hot from this cigar.

00:55:24.000 Listen, I need to talk to you.

00:55:26.000 I'm a little lightheaded.

00:55:27.000 All right, I'm going to go get some apple juice.

00:55:30.000 And I'm going to pray to Jesus.

00:55:31.000 We've got some in here, I believe.

00:55:32.000 Listen, I need to talk to you.

00:55:34.000 Just go grab some bottles and some ice.

00:55:37.000 Get him some apple juice for the transhumanism discussion, please.

00:55:40.000 Listen, you wonder why I'm so crazy?

00:55:41.000 No.

00:55:42.000 Because I discovered this stuff right out of mainline documents, and I've known it for 26 years, 27 years.

00:55:48.000 Well, here's another thing.

00:55:48.000 Let me tell you something.

00:55:51.000 We all know that you've fucked some things up, right? 1.00

00:55:54.000 And your biggest fuck-up is Sandy Hook. 0.98

00:55:56.000 But you've gotten so many things right. 0.96

00:55:59.000 And this is why I keep talking to you about these things.

00:56:01.000 And why I defend you. 0.97

00:56:02.000 And why I think that it's fucking dangerous. 0.92

00:56:06.000 To censor you and to say, oh, this guy, we need to get him deplatformed, get him all these things. 0.93

00:56:11.000 You're revealing some things that have been proven on this show so far to be true that make people very uncomfortable.

00:56:18.000 Well, the first thing I was going to do was thank you for having me on and having the courage. 0.94

00:56:20.000 But I was going to say the fucking Bohemian Grove thing. 0.99

00:56:23.000 The Bohemian Grove thing. 0.99

00:56:25.000 That was the first time I really got into what he was doing.

00:56:27.000 And that was like amazing.

00:56:29.000 I mean, when you watch that movie, watch that, you know, it's paradigm shift.

00:56:36.000 I've had people try to minimize that.

00:56:38.000 I've had people try.

00:56:39.000 Yes, they all do.

00:56:40.000 I go, listen to me.

00:56:40.000 I'm not a billionaire.

00:56:41.000 Well, I'll give you the real take on it because I've been there.

00:56:43.000 And I think it's just a gateway to things.

00:56:44.000 But let's get into Bohemian Grove in a moment.

00:56:46.000 I really want to give you the big enchilada.

00:56:50.000 The big enchilada.

00:56:51.000 Okay.

00:56:52.000 Just like a mole sauce.

00:56:54.000 Yes, sir.

00:56:54.000 I love mole sauce.

00:56:56.000 I do, too.

00:56:56.000 Just like I'm saying, the engineers, meanwhile, a lot of them have good points.

00:57:00.000 I'm not saying they're wrong about all this stuff.

00:57:02.000 I'm simply telling you, I've read what the globalists have to say in their own establishment communication.

00:57:06.000 Okay.

00:57:07.000 And I have it right here in my notes.

00:57:10.000 To talk to you about the post-human era and the system that they are setting up where in all of their main publications they say humans are flawed, humans are bad.

00:57:20.000 But they are.

00:57:21.000 But they are flawed, right?

00:57:22.000 But then these corporations are saying they're going to take us out of our bodies and make us silicon.

00:57:27.000 And that's what Elon Musk talks about.

00:57:28.000 Beware those that worship AI gods.

00:57:31.000 Well, he's actually talking about Neuralink, which is something where they're going to be able to interface with your brain and increase the bandwidth in which you access information.

00:57:37.000 But go ahead.

00:57:38.000 Well, that's it.

00:57:39.000 But that seems inevitable, doesn't it?

00:57:41.000 No, it's not inevitable.

00:57:43.000 Already, driverless cars don't know a wreck-up ahead or what to do.

00:57:46.000 They have more accidents.

00:57:48.000 Steve Wozniak, as I was saying earlier, the co-founder of Apple, says the best AI isn't a million percent close to how good an ant's brain is.

00:57:57.000 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:57:59.000 When they first developed cars, they said, well, how are you going to take them?

00:58:02.000 There's no roads.

00:58:02.000 Sure, AI power...

00:58:03.000 They built roads.

00:58:04.000 Here's the deal.

00:58:04.000 Do you understand that the AI that's powering these cars now...

00:58:08.000 Do you understand the people running the AR are predatory anti-humans that say they want to get rid of us?

00:58:13.000 Elon Musk is not a predatory anti-human.

00:58:14.000 No, I didn't say he was.

00:58:15.000 But I understand.

00:58:15.000 He's working on autonomous vehicles.

00:58:17.000 He said, beware those that speak of AI gods.

00:58:20.000 Yes.

00:58:21.000 Okay, a lot of people are worried that...

00:58:24.000 Look, Elon is more concerned.

00:58:26.000 Don't give me one of those. 1.00

00:58:27.000 You keep that shit away from me, motherfucker. 1.00

00:58:29.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:58:29.000 He doesn't drink. 1.00

00:58:30.000 I'm good.

00:58:30.000 Thank you.

00:58:30.000 I appreciate it.

00:58:30.000 He's sober.

00:58:31.000 Hey, Rogan...

00:58:31.000 I'm sitting next to Alex Jones.

00:58:34.000 I'm as high as I can be.

00:58:35.000 Election night...

00:58:36.000 Okay, but listen, election night, we're going to get lit.

00:58:39.000 But these guys who are making this stuff...

00:58:42.000 It's like in Hollywood.

00:58:43.000 This is fake.

00:58:44.000 This is only corn syrup coloring.

00:58:46.000 Do you think this is a good idea, though?

00:58:47.000 This idea that we should be expanding our minds in this way and putting chips in our...

00:58:51.000 I don't think it's good or bad.

00:58:54.000 I think it is the nature of human innovation.

00:58:56.000 I think we take things, we improve upon them, we do that with everything.

00:59:01.000 But at what point do you cross the line?

00:59:04.000 No, one at a time.

00:59:06.000 He needs weed.

00:59:07.000 They had Morse code, right?

00:59:09.000 Yes.

00:59:10.000 They went from Morse code to you being able to send me a FaceTime video.

00:59:14.000 Understood.

00:59:14.000 These things happen.

00:59:15.000 Hey, Joe, we're not against technology.

00:59:17.000 This is just part of being humans.

00:59:17.000 We're not against technology.

00:59:18.000 May I please say something?

00:59:19.000 I understand that you're not against technology, but what I'm saying is if you follow technological innovation, it becomes better and better and more and more invasive.

00:59:28.000 We need to design it where it doesn't make us obsolete.

00:59:31.000 Humans take control of their environment.

00:59:33.000 We build our environment.

00:59:34.000 The globalists have decided to have a post-human future where humans are no longer relevant.

00:59:38.000 This is where you lose. 1.00

00:59:38.000 I can show you the damn quote. 1.00

00:59:40.000 He's getting me. 1.00

00:59:41.000 I just gave you an article where they said it.

00:59:45.000 Because I think he's right.

00:59:46.000 I think the only reason we're still around is because they haven't figured out how to get robots good enough to get rid of all of it.

00:59:52.000 If they had the right robots, there would be no Walmarts to get rid of everybody.

00:59:57.000 You don't think that?

00:59:58.000 If they were the right robots, they'd get rid of them.

01:00:00.000 They're making us obsolete.

01:00:02.000 They're trying to get rid of the water.

01:00:04.000 Danger, danger, danger. 0.99

01:00:06.000 I need a fucking cooler. 0.99

01:00:07.000 I like to go to Walmart. 0.99

01:00:08.000 Is that okay?

01:00:09.000 But once you have a robot, you won't want to go to Walmart.

01:00:12.000 Why? 0.94

01:00:13.000 Because it's dirty, it's filthy.

01:00:15.000 Everyone's got COVID. I listen to music.

01:00:17.000 That's why they're doing the COVID is the post-human.

01:00:19.000 You're not essential under COVID. Listen, they want to train you.

01:00:24.000 Okay, listen, look how calculators were great.

01:00:26.000 No one knows how to do math now.

01:00:27.000 Look how phones are great.

01:00:28.000 No one knows their numbers anymore. 0.98

01:00:30.000 All the statistics show that the science of technology is making us dumb.

01:00:33.000 And that's why they wrote the big article, the co-owner of Sun Microsystems in 2000. Bill Joy wrote, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us.

01:00:41.000 And he explains he went to a top billionaire tech conference and they made the decision to not let humans sit around and play video games in the future.

01:00:47.000 They were just going to slowly phase us out and kill everybody.

01:00:51.000 They're not trying to kill everybody.

01:00:52.000 Okay, pull up why the future doesn't need us.

01:00:54.000 But why wouldn't they?

01:00:56.000 But why wouldn't they?

01:00:58.000 Can we reverse engineer the question? 0.99

01:00:59.000 Because we're called useless eaters. 0.96

01:01:01.000 I don't think they're trying to kill people. 0.91

01:01:03.000 I think they're trying to improve what a person is.

01:01:05.000 What I think we're doing... 0.99

01:01:06.000 Oh, by chopping our son's balls off? 1.00

01:01:08.000 Okay, you're going to go down another rabbit hole, you son of a bitch. 1.00

01:01:11.000 By increasing our ability to access information and by becoming a sort of a symbiotic creature aligned with technology. 0.99

01:01:19.000 And once we're aligned with AI, we can censor everything we do.

01:01:21.000 You think big tech, the minute big tech got control, they began censoring.

01:01:25.000 And it's the groups behind that are very predatory, Joe.

01:01:27.000 I do agree with you there.

01:01:29.000 There's no firewalls.

01:01:30.000 Here's the problem.

01:01:32.000 The First Amendment currently does not apply to big tech.

01:01:34.000 I believe it should.

01:01:36.000 They're violating cartel laws.

01:01:38.000 They're organized.

01:01:39.000 I believe that what's happening now, whether it's Twitter or Facebook or YouTube, these platforms are so big, I think the argument can be made that they are utilities and that they should be regulated like utilities.

01:01:53.000 It should be a human right.

01:01:54.000 I agree.

01:01:55.000 We did not have access to these things.

01:01:56.000 We did not...

01:01:59.000 We're going to talk about a lot of things.

01:02:01.000 Read this.

01:02:02.000 This is what I wrote last night.

01:02:03.000 You ready?

01:02:04.000 The Silicon Cult.

01:02:04.000 I want some weed for you.

01:02:06.000 I want you to take it down a notch.

01:02:07.000 The Silicon Cult.

01:02:08.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:02:09.000 Is this another article?

01:02:10.000 No, I wrote this.

01:02:11.000 Oh, you wrote it.

01:02:12.000 These are talking points.

01:02:13.000 The Silicon Cult, Defining the Enemy, the War on Carbon.

01:02:16.000 Announce up front that I am not really a liberal or conservative.

01:02:20.000 I want a pro-human future.

01:02:21.000 Please listen to me and hear me out.

01:02:23.000 Let's stop right there.

01:02:24.000 Because you get called a neoconservative.

01:02:28.000 You get called alt-right.

01:02:29.000 You get called a far-right person.

01:02:31.000 When I first met you, you were protesting against George W. Bush.

01:02:37.000 And you were saying that what he was doing and what he was trying to usher in was essentially going to be the downfall of Western civilization.

01:02:45.000 Even before he was elected.

01:02:46.000 Yes!

01:02:47.000 I remember that.

01:02:48.000 So when people say, Alex Jones is this far-right guy, I'm like, he's complicated.

01:02:53.000 Yeah.

01:02:54.000 He's really against corruption more than he's against any particular party.

01:02:58.000 You just found that the right was less apt to censor you and more apt to listen to your ideas.

01:03:05.000 Exactly.

01:03:06.000 And I know we're all not stoned today, and so we're being a little aggressive.

01:03:10.000 But here's the election night.

01:03:12.000 If I'm gracious enough to be here, or if you're gracious enough I'll be here, we'll get hammered.

01:03:16.000 But listen.

01:03:17.000 Let's get into Bohemian Grove.

01:03:18.000 Let's get into the technocracy.

01:03:19.000 Let's get into who runs things.

01:03:21.000 Let's get into the mindset.

01:03:22.000 Whatever points you want, and I'll try to show up and go through it.

01:03:24.000 This is Tim Dillon's wheelhouse.

01:03:25.000 This is because you're saying they want mortality on the roads.

01:03:28.000 Look at this thin, young, handsome, boyish, baby-faced Alex Jones.

01:03:33.000 Well, that's 2004, but yeah, I mean, I knew you in like...

01:03:35.000 98. Well, in 98 was when...

01:03:37.000 I met you in 98, but then I got to know you in 99. But this was when you were...

01:03:42.000 98 was when you were protesting.

01:03:43.000 And this is my clip.

01:03:44.000 You guys are welcome to play this.

01:03:45.000 It's really good.

01:03:46.000 Yeah.

01:03:46.000 I'll sign a form.

01:03:48.000 You can use it.

01:03:48.000 What is going on in this clip?

01:03:49.000 He's interviewing a lizard.

01:03:51.000 Let's play this.

01:03:51.000 No, this is the...

01:03:52.000 It's been in a lot of different newspapers, and that's the Bohemian Grove.

01:03:55.000 You want to start it over?

01:03:56.000 It's David Gurion.

01:03:57.000 Let me set it up.

01:03:58.000 Let me set it up.

01:03:59.000 Let me set it up.

01:04:01.000 Okay.

01:04:01.000 Right where he goes.

01:04:02.000 David Gergen.

01:04:03.000 I'm outside.

01:04:05.000 What's the main thing in New York where everybody plays?

01:04:07.000 By the way, this is when Bill Hicks was alive, so I can confirm that you are not Bill Hicks.

01:04:10.000 Madison Square Garden.

01:04:11.000 Madison Square Garden.

01:04:12.000 And here comes David Gergen in the coral robe of like four or five administrations.

01:04:16.000 And I knew that he was part of the actual ritual at Bohemian Grove, so I bring it up to him and he blows up at me.

01:04:21.000 Here it is.

01:04:22.000 He's like eight feet tall.

01:04:36.000 We're talking to David Gergen and he has advised several presidents and of course has written quite a few books and I would call you a political pundit or researcher.

01:04:48.000 One last question.

01:04:50.000 I read a Washington Times article many years ago where you had a comment about the organization, and then now it's been in the Wall Street Journal, it's been in a lot of different newspapers, and that's the Bohemian Grove.

01:05:00.000 And back in, what was it, 19...

01:05:03.000 In 1996, when you joined as a Clinton advisor, the Republicans were criticizing you.

01:05:08.000 Oh, what about Bohemian Grove?

01:05:09.000 And then you countered them by saying, hey, I don't run around in the woods naked.

01:05:13.000 What did that mean?

01:05:14.000 Here is the before-mentioned Washington Times article, where he said, I didn't run around naked like they do.

01:05:20.000 I don't know what quote you're referring to.

01:05:23.000 I'm not aware of any quote like that.

01:05:25.000 Listen, I am a happy member of the Bohemian Grove.

01:05:31.000 I like the folks who come there, and it's really inappropriate for me to talk about the group beyond that.

01:05:39.000 Thank you.

01:05:39.000 Have you been there for the ceremony with the cremation of care?

01:05:43.000 Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk to you about.

01:05:51.000 Now, what we're watching, for people that are just listening, is a bunch of people wearing robes that are burning an effigy in front of a giant statue of Molech the Owl God.

01:06:00.000 And it's the effigy of a child.

01:06:01.000 Well, I don't know if that is what it is.

01:06:03.000 It is.

01:06:03.000 I think it's the effigy of a child.

01:06:04.000 I believe it is.

01:06:04.000 It looks like a grown woman to me.

01:06:06.000 You should be just real mad right here.

01:06:07.000 Yeah.

01:06:08.000 Okay.

01:06:08.000 Watch this.

01:06:11.000 Frankly, I don't think that's something I need to talk to you about.

01:06:23.000 Really?

01:06:24.000 That's right.

01:06:24.000 Well, I'm Alex Jones and I snuck in there in 2000. I'm the guy that blew it wide open and got the video.

01:06:29.000 It's been on national TV. You do?

01:06:33.000 I do.

01:06:33.000 But there's a lot of big public officials going in there.

01:06:36.000 Don't we deserve to know?

01:06:37.000 I don't know anything about you, and I don't know anything about your film, but if you go in there with an understanding, you violated that understanding by releasing that film, and I don't respect you for that.

01:06:45.000 Really?

01:06:46.000 I'm sorry, you took an understanding when you went in there that you would not do that film.

01:06:50.000 Did you have an understanding when you went in there?

01:06:52.000 No.

01:06:52.000 Did you crash it?

01:06:53.000 Yes.

01:06:54.000 Yeah, and it has no trespassing signs there, too, doesn't it?

01:06:56.000 No, they put them up after.

01:06:57.000 I just walked in.

01:06:58.000 I'm sorry, sir.

01:06:59.000 I've been there before.

01:06:59.000 I know what the circumstances are, and I'm sorry you violated the understandings.

01:07:03.000 That was not a gentlemanly thing to do.

01:07:05.000 But what about the ritual?

01:07:06.000 Is the ritual gentlemanly? 1.00

01:07:12.000 That's all the people, these fucking heads of state and billionaires screaming. 0.99

01:07:15.000 Yeah, that's the other thing. 1.00

01:07:16.000 They run the world, these people.

01:07:17.000 I don't owe you this comment.

01:07:19.000 I know, I appreciate it.

01:07:20.000 This is what's called ambush journalism, and I disrespect you for that as well, so thank you and goodbye.

01:07:25.000 Have you ever been in the original? 0.99

01:07:26.000 That's none of your damn business. 0.99

01:07:29.000 Oh! 1.00

01:07:29.000 That's right. 1.00

01:07:30.000 Listen.

01:07:31.000 Oh, he's getting cocky.

01:07:32.000 You go around and make understandings with people and violate them.

01:07:37.000 You ambush people on the streets, and that's an inappropriate form of journalism.

01:07:41.000 If you wish to practice that, that's fine.

01:07:43.000 But don't ask others to respect you for it.

01:07:46.000 You can do you're free American like anything you want.

01:07:48.000 If you want to be uncivil and rude and ungentlemanly, that's up to you.

01:07:52.000 But don't expect the rest of us to say, oh, well, you're...

01:07:53.000 You guys are setting policy in there, Mr. Gergen.

01:07:55.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:55.000 Nobody sets policy in there.

01:07:56.000 We try to be gentlemen.

01:07:58.000 And obviously, you don't belong there.

01:08:00.000 Weaving spiders coming out here?

01:08:04.000 Yeah!

01:08:08.000 Anyways.

01:08:08.000 That's a three-player.

01:08:09.000 Listen, you could ignore that if it was a bunch of poor people in the woods doing that.

01:08:13.000 Even then I'd be worried.

01:08:15.000 Even then it would be weird.

01:08:16.000 These guys are the top of every industry in America.

01:08:19.000 It's at least curious.

01:08:21.000 Who goes in there?

01:08:23.000 Well, people I like.

01:08:24.000 I mean, Clint Eastwood's gone.

01:08:25.000 He's not really a member.

01:08:26.000 Look.

01:08:27.000 Look.

01:08:28.000 Is it fun?

01:08:29.000 Look, it's 2,700 acres. 0.99

01:08:31.000 It was set up by Mark Twain and it was a liberal deal for like hookers and gay dudes and just everything else. 0.99

01:08:39.000 Just a big, huge... 0.99

01:08:40.000 Would you say gay dudes? 0.99

01:08:41.000 What? 0.97

01:08:41.000 Gay dudes. 0.97

01:08:42.000 Oh, gay dudes. 1.00

01:08:43.000 No, I'm saying if you go back to like the 1870s when Mark Twain set up, it was classically liberal. 0.89

01:08:47.000 It was partying.

01:08:48.000 It was their own 2,700 acres.

01:08:49.000 It was saloons. 1.00

01:08:50.000 They brought in female hookers. 1.00

01:08:51.000 It was... 1.00

01:08:52.000 You know, there was gay guys in there, everything.

01:08:54.000 It was just, it was Bohemian Groves, what they called that, because people did whatever they wanted, and it was open.

01:08:59.000 And they had, like, poetry, and they had plays, and all the rest of it.

01:09:01.000 Then, by the time Howard Taft became president, the Republicans basically bought it. 0.98

01:09:06.000 So the reason it's important is the Republicans go there to, like, they ship in all these private hookers, all these jets land nearby, but they also have a lot of gay sex, which they use then to basically compromise people into the cult. 0.99

01:09:19.000 And so there's a lot of gay sex. 1.00

01:09:20.000 How do you know this? 1.00

01:09:22.000 It came out in news articles.

01:09:24.000 No one ever got footage of it.

01:09:25.000 I was in there for one day.

01:09:26.000 I snuck in.

01:09:26.000 I looked good back then.

01:09:27.000 They hit on me a lot.

01:09:28.000 I had people I recognized from TV walking around.

01:09:31.000 Hey, let's go right now. 0.98

01:09:32.000 I mean, it's a big gay hookup deal for Republicans. 0.99

01:09:35.000 I'm just telling you what it is. 0.98

01:09:36.000 And then they've got this ritual that's only the feeder group.

01:09:40.000 So I'm sitting there during the ritual, and I'm like, hey, this is pretty cool. 1.00

01:09:43.000 The dude goes, shut up, I'll kill you. 0.99

01:09:45.000 And they're all taking it very seriously. 1.00

01:09:46.000 And I'm not saying it's a gay thing.

01:09:47.000 I'm saying some of that goes on.

01:09:48.000 So you were saying it was cool and people were getting angry that you were saying it's cool?

01:09:51.000 No, I mean, I was just quietly going, oh, this is really interesting. 0.98

01:09:53.000 And they're like, shut up! 0.91

01:09:54.000 This is a very important ritual. 0.99

01:09:55.000 And they were taking it very serious.

01:09:57.000 This hearse comes in with the body of a child.

01:09:59.000 It is an effigy.

01:10:00.000 They're not killing it.

01:10:00.000 Well, it's just a bundle of sticks, right?

01:10:02.000 Yeah, well, it looks like a kid.

01:10:03.000 No, later, others infiltrated later that worked there and got us photos of it.

01:10:07.000 It's an image of a kid.

01:10:08.000 It's a little kid.

01:10:09.000 Because Moloch in biblical is who they sacrifice to Canaanite kids. 0.94

01:10:13.000 It's a bull, but they do it as an owl.

01:10:14.000 They do it as an owl, yeah.

01:10:16.000 But that's from the Bible, is you would sacrifice a child to Moloch.

01:10:18.000 Give not your children to the fires of Moloch.

01:10:21.000 Right, right.

01:10:22.000 And so I've given it to experts in religious history.

01:10:24.000 It's not even, you know, from a Christian perspective.

01:10:26.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 It's a Faustian deal mixed with Babylonian and religious stuff from Tyre.

01:10:33.000 Yeah.

01:10:33.000 It's quirky.

01:10:34.000 Look at that.

01:10:34.000 Look at that owl god and look at the fire underneath the owl god.

01:10:38.000 And there's Ronald Reagan.

01:10:39.000 I mean, if you saw that, if you were in the woods and you just saw that, you would be terrified. 0.99

01:10:43.000 And Richard Nixon says, Richard Nixon, on the Richard Nixon tape, says it's a gay orgy. 0.99

01:10:50.000 Richard Nixon said that? 0.99

01:10:51.000 You can pull up.

01:10:51.000 Richard Nixon talks about...

01:10:53.000 Yeah, Richard Nixon said something about it where he... 0.99

01:10:55.000 It's the most goddamn faggy thing you've ever seen. 1.00

01:10:57.000 I think it's just allowing... 0.99

01:11:00.000 Well, not that it gets...

01:11:01.000 That's what it's saying.

01:11:03.000 I think it's guys that aren't gay that engage in gay acts in the woods, and then they have something on each other, similar to Epstein's Island, where it's like, that's what it is. 0.65

01:11:15.000 It's like a fraternity doing that. 0.98

01:11:16.000 You've got to screw it up.

01:11:17.000 So is that part...

01:11:19.000 Hold on a second.

01:11:20.000 What is this here?

01:11:20.000 They don't allow women.

01:11:22.000 It says, founded in 1872 by a group of male...

01:11:25.000 That's the context that YouTube has when we talk about Bohemian Grove.

01:11:28.000 This is the title of the video.

01:11:29.000 See, I told you, founded in 1872. Richard Nixon, Bohemian Grove.

01:11:32.000 Most faggy goddamn thing he could ever imagine. 1.00

01:11:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:36.000 Yes, play it.

01:11:37.000 100% play it.

01:11:38.000 I want to hear this.

01:11:39.000 It's the Nixon tapes, yeah.

01:11:40.000 Let me hear this.

01:11:42.000 Let's look at Northern California.

01:11:45.000 Northern California.

01:11:47.000 You know what's happening in San Francisco?

01:11:48.000 San Francisco is just gone.

01:11:50.000 It's clear over it.

01:11:50.000 I don't know.

01:11:51.000 But it isn't.

01:11:52.000 It isn't just not an Iraqi part of town, but the upper class of San Francisco is that way.

01:11:58.000 The Bolivian Grove that I attend, one time to time, the Easters and the others have come here. 0.99

01:12:03.000 But it is the most faggot that you will care if I never imagine how San Francisco probably goes in there. 1.00

01:12:09.000 The San Francisco crowd goes in there. 1.00

01:12:11.000 It's just terrible.

01:12:12.000 Okay.

01:12:13.000 It's weird.

01:12:13.000 The owl, and it's interesting, and I don't know how seriously they take it.

01:12:18.000 I mean, that's the real question, right?

01:12:19.000 Well, yeah.

01:12:20.000 I mean, the whole gate thing's a side issue.

01:12:22.000 Right.

01:12:22.000 The point is that I've talked to people that, I mean, according to Ted Gunderson, the first time I ever heard about this was from this former high-level FBI agent who was going to be the FBI director, but he wouldn't go along with corruption, so he wasn't.

01:12:33.000 It's on record, Gunderson almost being on the FBI record.

01:12:34.000 And he blew up things like the Franklin scandal, and he's been...

01:12:37.000 And the Finders, and the Finders Club.

01:12:39.000 The Finders Club, which was huge, was where the CIA was caught trafficking.

01:12:43.000 You know, the Finders is a cult that was caught trafficking children, and the CIA squashed the Florida...

01:12:48.000 And then Gunderson got it raided in D.C. and found a whole CIA facility with the snuff films, everything.

01:12:54.000 Telex machine communicating.

01:12:55.000 And so he told me about all this, and I thought he was crazy.

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:58.000 Even though he was Ted Gunderson.

01:12:59.000 You told us about it, and we actually pulled up one of those stories.

01:13:02.000 And I was correct.

01:13:03.000 Yes, you're correct.

01:13:04.000 Yes.

01:13:04.000 Yeah.

01:13:05.000 Thank you.

01:13:05.000 So Ted Gunderson is the reason I know about this.

01:13:07.000 And he said that they get people interested with that ritual.

01:13:12.000 There's like 2,000 members.

01:13:13.000 They bring about 1,000 guests.

01:13:14.000 Not everybody can even bring a guest.

01:13:16.000 Like the head of each camp can bring a guest.

01:13:17.000 Most of them are nice.

01:13:18.000 Clint Eastwood goes there, you know.

01:13:20.000 Danny Glover goes there, but it's an all-male deal. 0.99

01:13:22.000 Who's the other one?

01:13:23.000 Danny Glover.

01:13:24.000 Oh, Danny Glover?

01:13:24.000 I'm just mentioning who's on there.

01:13:25.000 Lethal Weapon Danny Glover?

01:13:26.000 I saw him there. 0.99

01:13:27.000 How the fuck is he in there? 0.99

01:13:28.000 They probably like him from the movie. 0.99

01:13:30.000 He's just a fun guy.

01:13:30.000 He's a great guy.

01:13:31.000 I saw him when I was there.

01:13:32.000 I saw Danny Glover.

01:13:33.000 Interesting.

01:13:33.000 I'm starting to believe this is not...

01:13:34.000 I'm starting to believe we can get in.

01:13:36.000 I'm starting to believe it's not that exclusive.

01:13:37.000 Oh, Joe Rogan, they'd have him in immediately.

01:13:38.000 Immediately.

01:13:39.000 Not now.

01:13:40.000 Do a podcast in front of the owl.

01:13:43.000 But I just want to say that, overall, it started out as a truly artsy, liberal thing that I think is good.

01:13:49.000 I think guys deserve to go off the woods, like we've done since Humans Were Humans, and party and do whatever.

01:13:56.000 But the thing is, then the weird...

01:14:00.000 Here's what happened.

01:14:00.000 About 1900, Skull and Bones, that was at Yale in New Haven, Connecticut, that was a German death cult, it took over Bohemian Grove, and that's when they set up that as the central deal.

01:14:11.000 So it's this big, inviting, fun party.

01:14:13.000 What happens at Skull and Bones?

01:14:14.000 Because that's one of the other rumors about Skull and Bones.

01:14:17.000 I can tell you, I know.

01:14:17.000 They compromise you.

01:14:18.000 I know.

01:14:19.000 They compromise you so that you're always a part of this organization.

01:14:22.000 Well, before he died, I did multiple interviews with Anthony Sutton, the top congressional advisor to Senator Frank Church.

01:14:31.000 And we only know about Sutton because Charlotte Iserby, whose father was high-level skull and bones, gave him all of their internal manuals.

01:14:40.000 And she's been a frequent guest.

01:14:41.000 She's retired now.

01:14:42.000 America's Secret Establishment, an introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones.

01:14:45.000 Yes.

01:14:46.000 Okay.

01:14:47.000 And so this is a Russell Trust, true Illuminati.

01:14:52.000 Illuminati set up 1776 to counter our revolution by Adam Weishaupt.

01:14:56.000 It funds the Jacobins.

01:14:57.000 It funds the French Revolution.

01:14:58.000 It's the opposite of a true egalitarian, open liberal revolution.

01:15:02.000 It's the leftist.

01:15:03.000 Always say they're the liberal.

01:15:04.000 Liberal and leftist are two different deals.

01:15:06.000 Leftist is left-hand path, Satanism.

01:15:09.000 Liberalism is egalitarian, open society, true liberalism.

01:15:12.000 And so the left-hand path set this up.

01:15:16.000 And then they sent all this opium money they had over in 1831 to Yale to set up a German secret society of the Illuminati, which then has become one of the dominant secret societies.

01:15:28.000 And in there, they do actual satanic rituals.

01:15:31.000 They get in coffins.

01:15:32.000 They do simulated human sacrifices. 1.00

01:15:35.000 They have gay sex as part of the ritual. 1.00

01:15:38.000 They bathe in huge facilities of feces. 1.00

01:15:42.000 This was made by Robert De Niro made...

01:15:45.000 A movie...

01:15:46.000 Skull and Bones are doing that stuff now?

01:15:48.000 Absolutely.

01:15:49.000 I know somebody broke into it.

01:15:50.000 Wow.

01:15:51.000 How can this be proven?

01:15:54.000 Well, Matt Damon made a movie called The Good Shepherd, I think.

01:15:57.000 Yes.

01:15:57.000 And in that, it's Robert De Niro directed it.

01:16:00.000 Okay?

01:16:00.000 And that's super accurate, where it's got the sword and the devil, and they're in these big vats of cow manure.

01:16:05.000 They did leak a Facebook photo album of a bunch of skull and bones kids' hand on a deer island. 0.99

01:16:10.000 They kind of look like losers. 0.99

01:16:12.000 I know they're not, but they kind of look like losers. 0.99

01:16:15.000 I mean, it was kind of embarrassing. 1.00

01:16:16.000 A lot of billionaires look like losers. 0.99

01:16:17.000 Yeah, they look like emaciated. 0.99

01:16:19.000 You were like, these are the Illuminati?

01:16:21.000 It was kind of like...

01:16:21.000 No, I totally agree with you.

01:16:23.000 Remember ABC News, because they wanted to get Bush in trouble right before the 2004 election? 0.99

01:16:29.000 Another frat was able to, because they're all doing this crap, shoot video down into it where they're going, devil equals death, Satan. 0.97

01:16:35.000 And they had girls they finally brought into the membership, it was all boys before, sacrificing. 1.00

01:16:39.000 So, of course, it's idiotic. 1.00

01:16:41.000 It's training wheels for what they do. 1.00

01:16:43.000 But inside, they go grave rob, they've got Geronimo's skull.

01:16:46.000 Yeah, that George H.W. Bush supposedly stole Geronimo's skull.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, you've got to do things like...

01:16:50.000 I don't know if that...

01:16:51.000 But that's a legend, rumor thing, yeah.

01:16:54.000 Well, I... Probably true.

01:16:56.000 It's been broken into.

01:16:57.000 Yeah.

01:16:57.000 One time the police went in there.

01:16:58.000 But the point is, is that Skull and Bones, Order 322, is the Illuminati Germanic death cult that now set up chapters all over the U.S. And it took over Bohemian Grove around 1900. And so that's why Bohemian Grove is still this artisan, you know, deal of elitist artist.

01:17:14.000 But then it got co-opted by the Republican Party and Skull and Bones.

01:17:18.000 And Helmut Schmidt, German chancellor, wrote Men in Power as a Political Retrospective when he retired in the late 80s, saying, I love our Illuminati rituals that we have in Germany in our own sacred groves, but I think they've taken it to a new level with Skull and Bones at Bohemian Grove,

01:17:34.000 and I really enjoy the time we have there.

01:17:36.000 So these are just these elite institutions where – and Skull and Bowls, I think they seek to like create close friends amongst people that may not know each other, create loyalty amongst this group of people.

01:17:48.000 That's why they got to tell them all the things they've done.

01:17:50.000 Yeah, you got to tell them all the sexual history, all that stuff.

01:17:51.000 They want these people to be loyal to each other.

01:17:53.000 So when they – they're not loyal to the laws of America.

01:17:56.000 They're loyal to this oath that they take with each other.

01:17:59.000 And exactly.

01:18:00.000 And it's like a Team America.

01:18:01.000 Look at this.

01:18:02.000 Yeah.

01:18:02.000 Descendants sue skull and bones over Geronimo's bones.

01:18:06.000 Documents show George W. Bush's grandfather robbed Geronimo's grave members.

01:18:12.000 Members of the secret society allegedly steal valuable things and put them in tomb.

01:18:17.000 Great-grandson says Geronimo should be buried in accordance with tradition.

01:18:22.000 Federal law protects Native Americans' rights to their family members' remains.

01:18:27.000 And let's expand on that.

01:18:28.000 What he just said, because this guy's only studying...

01:18:31.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:18:32.000 It's like in Team America when the head guy goes, suck my cock, Gary. 1.00

01:18:38.000 It's not about sex. 1.00

01:18:40.000 In Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, what he said is most of these guys are not gay.

01:18:44.000 It's an act of dominance.

01:18:45.000 Like, oh, you're a senator?

01:18:47.000 You want to be president?

01:18:48.000 Bend over. 1.00

01:18:48.000 And like a former president, screws you in the ass. 1.00

01:18:50.000 And that's what they do. 1.00

01:18:51.000 I mean, the ritual is, I'm in charge, bend over.

01:18:55.000 Well, isn't that a thing with fraternities anyway?

01:18:57.000 Like hazing?

01:18:58.000 Yeah.

01:18:59.000 Exactly.

01:19:00.000 So it's the next deal.

01:19:01.000 Yeah, but most people in fraternity, I mean, these are the top kids.

01:19:05.000 These are kids that they think are going to occupy leadership positions in the world.

01:19:09.000 And often do, eventually.

01:19:10.000 And often do.

01:19:11.000 Let me give you an example.

01:19:12.000 Even John Ronson saw the photo of me when we snuck in Bohemian Grove.

01:19:15.000 Yeah.

01:19:15.000 And they had it hanging in, and people said, why didn't you get a video?

01:19:18.000 I have a camera hidden right here. 1.00

01:19:19.000 It's Henry Kissinger bent over in a woman's dress, sticking his fingers in his ass. 1.00

01:19:24.000 Bill Clinton in a blue dress in Jeffrey Epstein's house. 1.00

01:19:27.000 Yeah, but that's just an artist's rendition.

01:19:29.000 Do you know that that was just an artist made that?

01:19:31.000 Maybe this was an artist's rendition.

01:19:32.000 We're in a clubhouse.

01:19:34.000 Ronson wrote about this.

01:19:35.000 Oh, so it's a photo or a painting?

01:19:37.000 No, it looked like a photo, but let's just say it's a painting.

01:19:39.000 I don't know.

01:19:41.000 It's ancient memory 20 years ago.

01:19:42.000 But I mean, Ronson's like, look at that.

01:19:45.000 I'm like, is that Kissinger?

01:19:46.000 Yeah, and it's Kissinger.

01:19:48.000 It's all about being improper.

01:19:50.000 And then they all go get caught to compromise each other to be in the club.

01:19:53.000 It's a hazing thing. 0.99

01:19:54.000 So that they can trust each other because they're all doing shady shit. 1.00

01:19:57.000 Yes. 0.96

01:19:57.000 Even if it's an artist's rendition, why is Jeffrey Epstein having in his townhouse a picture of the president in a blue dress? 0.96

01:20:02.000 Well, because the president flew in his fucking plane 26 times. 0.99

01:20:06.000 That's what I mean. 1.00

01:20:07.000 And by the way, Israel Maxwell is now come out in court.

01:20:10.000 It's getting no attention confirming, okay, Clinton did fly to that island.

01:20:14.000 That broke four days ago.

01:20:15.000 It's gotten zero attention.

01:20:16.000 Yeah, no, they're not paying attention.

01:20:18.000 We haven't heard anything other than those court documents that just came out.

01:20:21.000 Listen, I told you.

01:20:21.000 Listen, guys.

01:20:22.000 It's not like I'm even that special.

01:20:24.000 My mom's brother was a famous helicopter pilot in Vietnam running black ops into Laos and Cambodia and stuff.

01:20:31.000 And then he...

01:20:33.000 I shouldn't tell these stories, but no one's ever heard this stuff.

01:20:35.000 But, you know, I remember growing up, him telling me this stuff, and it was true. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Like, they were...

01:20:40.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:20:41.000 Please, please.

01:20:43.000 What's the problem?

01:20:43.000 I just can't do it.

01:20:44.000 What's the danger?

01:20:45.000 You said so much.

01:20:46.000 Well, I mean...

01:20:48.000 Let's just say he took the fall for something that was going on.

01:20:51.000 He didn't get in trouble for it.

01:20:52.000 He got promoted.

01:20:54.000 He was involved in Iran-Contra.

01:20:55.000 And that's how people get promoted.

01:20:56.000 They fail upward by taking, a lot of times, the blame for something.

01:21:01.000 That's common.

01:21:02.000 I grew up not just him, but other family.

01:21:05.000 It was something special.

01:21:07.000 How about those Navy SEAL guys?

01:21:08.000 You've got security done a bunch of crazy stuff.

01:21:10.000 That's what our military does.

01:21:11.000 It's not what you hear on the news.

01:21:13.000 And it's just completely out of control stuff.

01:21:17.000 And I mean, my uncle told me, he said, yeah, I know I got out of working for these groups and everything.

01:21:23.000 As an army officer that was sheep dipped.

01:21:26.000 He wasn't wearing an army uniform.

01:21:28.000 We were talking high level.

01:21:30.000 We were talking running the real stuff.

01:21:31.000 Special ops.

01:21:33.000 He was in charge.

01:21:34.000 He had the command base in Guatemala City.

01:21:35.000 He was a top Morse code guy.

01:21:37.000 Of course, he had satellites then, but nobody could read this Morse code coded.

01:21:40.000 So he was sending stuff to the White House Morse code.

01:21:42.000 When he was a kid, he was a champion Morse coder.

01:21:44.000 So he wasn't just in command.

01:21:45.000 He was running all the stuff.

01:21:48.000 He just said, I had to do it because it was kids being smuggled out of orphanages By the CIA for sex ops in D.C. Jesus Christ!

01:21:56.000 And he told me that when he was dying of pneumonia.

01:21:59.000 Jesus! 1.00

01:22:00.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:22:00.000 Now, what is it with kids? 1.00

01:22:03.000 It's the way to compromise people.

01:22:05.000 It's the energy, too.

01:22:07.000 I mean, if somebody will hurt kids and he wouldn't.

01:22:09.000 If somebody will hurt kids, they'll do anything.

01:22:11.000 But that's what everyone's so terrified of today, right?

01:22:14.000 That there are some sex trafficking and sex cults involving high-level people.

01:22:21.000 And they are, though, but that's a fact. 1.00

01:22:23.000 The QAnon shit gets wild, and it's sloppy and messy. 0.99

01:22:26.000 And you've talked about that, too. 0.99

01:22:27.000 It gets sloppy and messy, and they're not right about everything.

01:22:29.000 But the idea there are human trafficking...

01:22:31.000 The entire reason...

01:22:32.000 QAnon is just people on the internet...

01:22:34.000 They're like playing games.

01:22:35.000 LARPing, acting like they're taking credit for something.

01:22:38.000 And a lot of them are good people.

01:22:39.000 It's just that you can give them bonafide, like, look, they just busted a giant child trafficking ring, Associated Press.

01:22:44.000 They don't want that.

01:22:45.000 They want, no, there's underground bases, and there's dinosaurs, and there's aliens. 1.00

01:22:48.000 They don't want the real shit. 1.00

01:22:50.000 They don't want the real thing. 1.00

01:22:51.000 So is it that they're just into things that are just huge, more ridiculous than reality? 0.94

01:22:58.000 Like, what is... 0.89

01:22:59.000 Yeah, because it's escapism, and Hillary's in prison secretly. 1.00

01:23:02.000 Oh, right.

01:23:02.000 I think they just learned about the world over the last year, and it melted their mind.

01:23:06.000 Like, you've been looking at this stuff forever.

01:23:08.000 When you were on with Joe a few months ago, you crystallized it perfectly.

01:23:10.000 They've been asleep, now they've woken up, and now they think everything's a cartoon version.

01:23:14.000 Well, say it like you said.

01:23:15.000 Yeah, well, it was just like, again, it's like if you didn't know anything about the Franklin scandal, you didn't know about Epstein, or you hadn't read these books, you didn't know the stories your uncle told you, and then eventually you just found out there was an island where all these politicians were going to and having sex with kids and they were getting compromised, your mind would melt and then you would get paranoid and then you would start thinking that everybody's a pedophile and that there's tunnels underground when the reality is it is bad,

01:23:38.000 but sometimes you have to take a step back and take a breath and realize that, like, There are good people, and not everybody is evil, but there is a lot of evil out there.

01:23:48.000 But you've got to take a step back and try to realize, like, what is what?

01:23:51.000 Well, there's one picture of Clinton getting massaged by this woman, and they were using it as sort of evidence.

01:23:57.000 But the woman's clearly a woman. 1.00

01:23:59.000 She's in her 20s.

01:24:01.000 Yeah, but she'd been working for him since she was, like, 15. Let's never use Clinton as the example of the QAnon people being wrong.

01:24:08.000 That's not even what I'm saying.

01:24:10.000 There it is.

01:24:11.000 That's a grown woman. 0.98

01:24:12.000 She's a grown-up, yeah.

01:24:13.000 Listen, let's be clear.

01:24:15.000 The media did a limited hangout.

01:24:17.000 They went with these whistleblowers instead of all the other people.

01:24:21.000 And the fact that the witnesses reported at Epstein Island in the Caribbean, Little St. George, and he on the other island too, that boats would pull up in the middle of the night to these shacks with little brown kids.

01:24:34.000 And those are the ones that get disappeared.

01:24:35.000 But who reported this?

01:24:38.000 It's in major documentaries.

01:24:41.000 It's in Netflix documentaries.

01:24:42.000 It's in all the witnesses we talked to.

01:24:44.000 And they said, my witnesses, my people I talked to over 10 years ago said, remember me telling you about it, they've got an island in the Caribbean.

01:24:51.000 They've got an island in the Mediterranean.

01:24:53.000 They've got ranches in the Southwest. 0.58

01:24:56.000 Well, he had a ranch in New Mexico, right?

01:24:58.000 Yeah, that came out later.

01:24:59.000 I wasn't told exactly where.

01:25:00.000 I mean, the idea that these kids would disappear potentially isn't crazy.

01:25:03.000 No, it's not crazy at all.

01:25:04.000 It's not crazy at all.

01:25:05.000 Here's an example. 0.99

01:25:06.000 I was told by a high-level source that major Hollywood producers, by name, ran a cult where they branded women Next to their vagina. 0.99

01:25:14.000 The Nixxiom thing. 0.94

01:25:15.000 But I put it out two years before it broke, because I was told this by a high-level source.

01:25:18.000 I remember you talking to me about it.

01:25:20.000 And then they even had articles going in Huffington Post.

01:25:23.000 Jones claims Harvey Weinstein's connected to groups that do all this, and...

01:25:29.000 I was just going off what people told me, and I said, I didn't even say Weinstein.

01:25:33.000 That's what's crazy is, they were already trying to cover it in case I said that.

01:25:37.000 They're like, oh, Weinstein's not involved in branding women.

01:25:39.000 Well, it never even came out he was.

01:25:41.000 It was the other guy.

01:25:42.000 But what you said did turn out to be true.

01:25:45.000 Yeah. 0.80

01:25:46.000 As fantastic as it sounded, as outrageous, as ridiculous, it turned out to be true, and now it's in the news. 0.56

01:25:53.000 First time I ever heard of Ted Gunderson. 0.58

01:25:54.000 Let me pull him up, Ted Gunderson.

01:25:56.000 It's on Wikipedia, up to the FBI director.

01:25:59.000 He was the head of LA. Imagine what he learned there.

01:26:00.000 He used to tell me, he goes, man, I've been in the FBI 20 years.

01:26:02.000 I got to be the head of LA. He goes, I guess devil worshiping everywhere.

01:26:05.000 Blew me away. 0.98

01:26:06.000 Pedophilia, you name it.

01:26:08.000 He knew about the Manson thing really being a satanic ritual.

01:26:11.000 And there was a senator from Nebraska named John DeCamp, who I know- Who he was friends with.

01:26:14.000 Who he was friends with.

01:26:15.000 And John DeCamp was a guy who, he blew the whole thing wide open.

01:26:18.000 He was CIA. He blew the whole thing wide open.

01:26:20.000 Was DeCamp CIA? No, he told me.

01:26:23.000 I was friends with him.

01:26:23.000 He was one of the good ones.

01:26:24.000 He was involved in Operation Phoenix.

01:26:25.000 And then they killed...

01:26:27.000 Well, that was his mentor.

01:26:29.000 So DeCamp's mentor was a guy who was a high-level CIA guy.

01:26:34.000 Jamie could pull that up.

01:26:35.000 He was in a Phoenix operation, and he was killed.

01:26:39.000 In the canoe.

01:26:40.000 In the canoe.

01:26:41.000 And the dinner was still on the table.

01:26:43.000 He was killed in a canoe?

01:26:44.000 Yeah.

01:26:44.000 Yeah, this was a high-level CIA guy.

01:26:46.000 John DeCamp was a Nebraska senator who broke open this human trafficking operation. 0.61

01:26:51.000 By the way, I'm having a pedophile cult.

01:26:54.000 It was trafficking kids across America, and it was a senator out of the Omaha Federal Credit Union.

01:27:00.000 It was being run by a guy named Larry King, who was this rising star in the Republican Party.

01:27:03.000 He's probably still alive.

01:27:04.000 He has pictures of Maureen Reagan, all that stuff.

01:27:06.000 These kids were being trafficked to D.C., to L.A., to New York, wherever. 0.96

01:27:11.000 DeCamp stumbled upon this, stumbled upon the occult weird ritual shit going on too, in addition to the pedophilia and all that.

01:27:18.000 And then he went to this guy, his mentor, who we knew from Vietnam, from the military, who was a CIA guy whose name is escaping me. 0.95

01:27:26.000 William Colby.

01:27:27.000 William Colby, he went to William Colby, and William Colby basically said to the camp, listen, you're going up against forces that are way too powerful.

01:27:34.000 You don't even know what you're knocking on here. 0.99

01:27:37.000 And then William Colby, I think, changed his mind and said, fuck it, you know what? 0.99

01:27:40.000 We should stop doing, like, let's, if we're going to fight this, let's fight it. 0.99

01:27:43.000 And then a little while later, William Colby, who is in great health, great shape, has an accident in his canoe, is found dead.

01:27:52.000 In a river right by his house with his dinner still on the table.

01:27:55.000 So it's like nobody gets up in the middle of the dinner to go canoeing.

01:27:58.000 So this has been a common theme forever, whereas if you go against these people, you find you're dead.

01:28:05.000 He was 76 when he drowned, though.

01:28:07.000 Yeah, but in a canoe while his dinner was still on the table.

01:28:10.000 Sometimes people have heart attacks when they're 76. I understand that.

01:28:12.000 I understand that.

01:28:13.000 We're connecting dots here that maybe we don't need to disclose.

01:28:16.000 Okay.

01:28:18.000 William Colby, director of Central Intelligence, chose to disclose some of the nation's darkest secrets to save the spy service he loved, drowned on April 27th in a tributary of...

01:28:26.000 I've talked to folks.

01:28:27.000 They killed him.

01:28:28.000 They killed him.

01:28:29.000 He was 76. How about Gary Caridori, who was a private investigator, hired to get to the bottom of the Franklin scandal.

01:28:34.000 It's like Barry Seale, man.

01:28:35.000 They're getting rid of the people.

01:28:36.000 They just get rid of them.

01:28:38.000 All right, so listen.

01:28:39.000 We've done Bohemian Grove.

01:28:40.000 We've done Bohemian Grove.

01:28:41.000 Let me tell you.

01:28:43.000 Senator DeCamp was on record running major-level Operation Phoenix.

01:28:47.000 Which was a high-level CIA torture operation and execution operation.

01:28:52.000 So Apocalypse Now is kind of based on some of the things they did.

01:28:56.000 But he's on record, highly decorated at that.

01:28:59.000 I don't want to go too far away from the Epstein thing because I still have a whole lot more questions.

01:29:02.000 Let's go back to Epstein.

01:29:02.000 Okay.

01:29:03.000 The island itself.

01:29:04.000 Like, first of all, Epstein had this crazy place in New York City.

01:29:08.000 Seven-story palace.

01:29:10.000 That the guy who owned Victoria's Secrets, he gave it to him?

01:29:15.000 Yeah, because of probably blackmailing.

01:29:17.000 Right.

01:29:17.000 And then there was other billionaires who had turned out, and this had been glossed over.

01:29:22.000 Including Bill Gates.

01:29:23.000 Bill Gates stays there and tried to deny it, but Bill Gates denies staying with Epstein, but confirmed he stayed there and in his Paris home.

01:29:31.000 Okay.

01:29:32.000 And this was also, he met with him post his first arrest, correct?

01:29:37.000 Yes.

01:29:38.000 Because he was arrested.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, a lot of people did.

01:29:40.000 Chelsea Handler had dinner with him, I believe, after the arrest, too.

01:29:42.000 I mean, a lot of people looked past that, apparently.

01:29:44.000 Yeah, that British royal.

01:29:46.000 Okay, Bill Gates met with Jeffrey Epstein many times, despite his past.

01:29:50.000 I gotta say, Jamie's really fast.

01:29:53.000 He's the best.

01:29:58.000 So, let's go back to this.

01:30:00.000 Mary Tim Dillon?

01:30:01.000 Epstein had a huge interest in tech.

01:30:04.000 He loved tech.

01:30:05.000 Yes.

01:30:05.000 Yes, and he wanted to.

01:30:07.000 He brought scientists and big tech people over his house in New York City.

01:30:11.000 Here's the deal.

01:30:11.000 They were doing...

01:30:12.000 I said this over 10 years ago, that they were involved in secret breeding programs for cloning.

01:30:18.000 Okay, before we get to that.

01:30:20.000 Scientists.

01:30:22.000 Where are they getting all the money, first of all?

01:30:25.000 Where's he getting the money to get this island?

01:30:26.000 Where's he getting the money to buy this giant house?

01:30:29.000 We now know that he was a nexus point from the dirty sides of the CIA, MI6, and Mossad, at least.

01:30:37.000 And so they were compromising people.

01:30:39.000 And then as he would compromise people...

01:30:42.000 Most of them knew they were being compromised.

01:30:43.000 They wanted to be compromised, to be let in to then run operations and be given even more money.

01:30:48.000 He was also the money manager for a guy named Les Wexner, who's a billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret and the Limited, among other things.

01:30:54.000 He was gifting Epstein a property.

01:30:56.000 He gave him a $70 million.

01:30:57.000 Well, that's where he got some of the first money. 0.99

01:30:59.000 Well, Eric Weinstein, who's a legit financial guy, looked at him and said, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. 0.98

01:31:05.000 Of course not. 0.92

01:31:05.000 He said he's playing a role. 0.92

01:31:07.000 He met with him.

01:31:08.000 Scientists were like that, too, when they went to his house.

01:31:10.000 They go, oh, Epstein is playing a role.

01:31:13.000 Yes.

01:31:14.000 So whatever he's doing, he's working for somebody.

01:31:16.000 Well, let me tell you.

01:31:17.000 They want to corrupt the scientific elite to go along with their agenda on climate change.

01:31:22.000 To go along with their agenda on viruses.

01:31:24.000 To go along with their agenda because scientists are respected.

01:31:27.000 So you want to have them compromise so they go along with whatever it is you want.

01:31:30.000 So whatever it is you want.

01:31:31.000 So if you want to do something and manipulate reality to make your agenda go through... 0.90

01:31:39.000 You compromise the scientists, and then these elite experts who you have on film having sex with 16-year-olds, then you can...

01:31:48.000 Yeah, so maybe man-made global warming is real and really bad.

01:31:52.000 It doesn't matter.

01:31:52.000 The solution they have is a global tax.

01:31:54.000 You pay them, so it's a scam.

01:31:55.000 But as big as Epstein was, he was small compared to these other finders groups and other organizations.

01:32:01.000 They even came out in the news at the time in the late 80s, early 90s.

01:32:04.000 And then the communist Chinese, they're running... 0.95

01:32:08.000 The blackmail rings with Hunter Biden and the Democratic Party and Dianne Feinstein and all these people at levels way, way, way above anything anybody else has seen.

01:32:17.000 Jesus Christ.

01:32:19.000 I always got a bad feeling from Dianne Feinstein.

01:32:22.000 I never had any feeling.

01:32:23.000 Turned out her main assistant was a Chinese actual agent. 0.91

01:32:28.000 Yeah, I mean, that's...

01:32:29.000 Glenn Maxwell Powell pleads for release, says, jailed heiress, starving, and humiliating clothes.

01:32:36.000 And that's unfair for her, and I think, I mean...

01:32:38.000 One of the latest statements.

01:32:40.000 You should give her...

01:32:40.000 Oh, oh, she...

01:32:42.000 I mean, on record, this woman was involved in all these horrible things, and now, oh my God, she's in humiliating clothes. 1.00

01:32:47.000 Why do you think Trump said, like, when they asked her about it, well, I wish her well?

01:32:51.000 He's always smart-ass, like, because Epstein was killed in prison.

01:32:55.000 So he's like, I wish her well, because they want to get data.

01:32:57.000 He's also like a rich guy.

01:32:58.000 He knew her, right?

01:33:00.000 Well, he later clarified it.

01:33:01.000 I'll tell you what he said.

01:33:02.000 Do you think Trump's cleaning everything in this?

01:33:06.000 Oh, you want to get the M.O. on Trump?

01:33:07.000 Well, I would like to, because I know that you're...

01:33:09.000 I'll give you.

01:33:10.000 No, no.

01:33:11.000 Here we go.

01:33:12.000 My only superpower is that I really try to give you the accurate thing.

01:33:15.000 It doesn't mean I'm always right about 95% of the time.

01:33:17.000 That's why earlier when I went on that rabbit troll, what I'm saying, listen, Trump doesn't like lobbyists.

01:33:21.000 He fired them all.

01:33:21.000 He's trying to make the best decisions for everybody in a pragmatic free market to not have one-sided trade deals.

01:33:26.000 But his blindside was by him not letting lobbyists in, everyone around him became unofficial lobbyists.

01:33:31.000 That became a 20-minute rabbit hole, which I'm not bitching about.

01:33:34.000 But let me tell you about Trump.

01:33:36.000 Trump's dad was a super right-wing pro-America dude who was actually a huge funder of the John Birch Society.

01:33:44.000 Introduced him to the head of the House Un-American Activities Group that worked for Nixon and Eisenhower that actually ran the Red Scare.

01:33:53.000 Some of it was good, some of it was bad.

01:33:55.000 Roy Cohen.

01:33:56.000 And so his personal lawyer for 25 years was Roy Cohen.

01:34:03.000 Joe McCarthy's best friend, right?

01:34:04.000 Joe McCarthy's chief of staff.

01:34:05.000 Chief of staff, yeah.

01:34:06.000 I mean, he ran it.

01:34:07.000 He ran it, yeah.

01:34:08.000 He ran House and Senate.

01:34:09.000 He was the big enchilada.

01:34:11.000 And so Trump was actually heavily influenced by his father that was anti-communist, acted nice and liberal in New York, but knew all this.

01:34:17.000 John Burt Society, we're talking whole nine yards.

01:34:20.000 But wasn't Roy Cohn also involved in some blackmail stuff?

01:34:22.000 Oh, he was huge.

01:34:23.000 Okay.

01:34:24.000 Absolutely. 0.86

01:34:25.000 And it was the whole gay mafia stuff. 1.00

01:34:27.000 Right, right, right, right. 0.99

01:34:27.000 Jesus Christ, you guys are deep. 0.99

01:34:29.000 You're deep in this, Tim.

01:34:30.000 I know this.

01:34:30.000 Yeah, I know this.

01:34:31.000 Well, it's all facts.

01:34:31.000 I fell asleep listening.

01:34:32.000 Every night, I would fall asleep.

01:34:34.000 I'd listen to everybody in half an hour, and then I would trail off.

01:34:37.000 And I would fall asleep.

01:34:38.000 And now I can't do that anymore!

01:34:40.000 Thank you, YouTube!

01:34:41.000 You can, Infowars.com.

01:34:43.000 I know.

01:34:43.000 We're halfway into this, I should say.

01:34:45.000 People ask, where...

01:34:46.000 People come to the street and say, I used to love you.

01:34:48.000 I'm sorry you're off air now.

01:34:49.000 We have record traffic at Infowars.com and banned.video.

01:34:53.000 Banned.video.

01:34:54.000 We have videos.

01:34:55.000 I've had videos this week with three million views, two million views, a million views.

01:34:58.000 It's all there.

01:34:59.000 Ben Avery watches Infowars.com like during holidays.

01:35:02.000 His family would be having Christmas.

01:35:03.000 He'll be in a room watching Infowars.

01:35:04.000 So speaking of censorship, YouTube and Facebook have now banned all the QAnon stuff, right?

01:35:09.000 Which is crazy.

01:35:10.000 Well, this is what's crazy.

01:35:12.000 What's next?

01:35:13.000 Are you going to ban JFK conspiracy theories?

01:35:15.000 Well, if I make a joke about QAnon, am I going to get banned?

01:35:17.000 That's the other problem for comedians.

01:35:18.000 But it's like you said, the Young Turks show.

01:35:21.000 Well, let's just first talk about the Young Turks. 0.54

01:35:22.000 What is the show?

01:35:24.000 The Jacobins.

01:35:25.000 Because Tim Dillon had put the show...

01:35:29.000 I'm going to send it to you, Jamie, so you can see what it is.

01:35:34.000 I'm going to send you the video that Tim Dillon...

01:35:37.000 Tim Pool.

01:35:38.000 Tim Pool had sent me.

01:35:39.000 I'm going to send it to you right now, Jamie.

01:35:41.000 So let me explain this.

01:35:44.000 The Young Turds are anti-free speech for everybody, including me.

01:35:48.000 And then she goes, but I'm not anti-free speech.

01:35:50.000 I just want Alex Jones banned.

01:35:51.000 But then they have this new show called The Jacobins.

01:35:54.000 Well, let's talk about evil.

01:35:55.000 The Young Turks were the group that ran the Armenian Genocide... 0.91

01:36:00.000 I think?

01:36:17.000 I mean, you know, the Young Turks...

01:36:19.000 That is a very unfortunate name, the Young Turks.

01:36:21.000 Well, they also...

01:36:22.000 People run around with...

01:36:23.000 You know, the people that watch a lot of those shows walk around with either the Che Guevara shirts or they're unironically calling themselves Maoists.

01:36:29.000 These are like suburban white kids walking around going, I'm a Maoist.

01:36:33.000 With $800 smartphones.

01:36:35.000 That is a problem, too.

01:36:37.000 It's absurd.

01:36:37.000 I think they're trying to do good and I think they think they are doing good.

01:36:40.000 I really do.

01:36:41.000 Right.

01:36:41.000 I think when they thought that, hey, I'm not anti-free speech, but ban Alex Jones, they just don't understand what that means.

01:36:50.000 There's a reason why you can't just go around censoring people.

01:36:54.000 And again, the answer to bad speech is better speech.

01:36:59.000 That has always been the answer.

01:37:00.000 But here's the big problem.

01:37:01.000 Once they silence you, they can then make up whatever they want.

01:37:05.000 But here's what's worse, Alex, and this is you personally, but the problem is when they silence someone, when they censor someone, and then that person's not the target anymore, they look for another target and they invariably go left.

01:37:20.000 Exactly.

01:37:21.000 They get on a power trip.

01:37:22.000 But hold on a second.

01:37:24.000 The left is not left enough.

01:37:26.000 So if you're a centrist, they'll call you alt-right.

01:37:29.000 Because you need to be compliant completely with the ideology.

01:37:33.000 If you're not compliant, they keep moving what's acceptable and what constitutes racism, sexism, classism, homophobia, transgenderism.

01:37:42.000 It's a power grab.

01:37:43.000 But they keep changing it.

01:37:45.000 They move the line.

01:37:47.000 Orwell talked about this in 1984. He was like, if you ban all the words, you will literally...

01:37:55.000 You will change thoughts because you can't have all the...

01:38:00.000 I forget Orwell's words on hate speech.

01:38:04.000 Reducing language.

01:38:04.000 He said they want to reduce the language where no one's even able to communicate and that's the goal.

01:38:09.000 So we think of it as a leftist thing that's out of control.

01:38:12.000 No, this is a science... 0.98

01:38:13.000 I paraphrased it and I fucked it up. 0.97

01:38:14.000 But the point is, what they didn't see... 0.80

01:38:17.000 They didn't use hindsight.

01:38:19.000 They didn't...

01:38:19.000 It's called Ingsoc.

01:38:22.000 It's so hard to talk with you.

01:38:23.000 What they didn't do is they didn't look to where this goes.

01:38:28.000 I do.

01:38:29.000 They didn't look to where this goes.

01:38:31.000 They didn't understand.

01:38:32.000 They didn't extrapolate.

01:38:33.000 They didn't say...

01:38:34.000 Or maybe some of them did and some of them wanted to go where it's going.

01:38:37.000 If you start censoring, there's a real...

01:38:39.000 And I know people are saying, no, you should censor people that say terrible things because they influence our children.

01:38:45.000 You can't.

01:38:47.000 But Joe, it's a power grab.

01:38:48.000 They get off.

01:38:49.000 Once they've got one scalp, they're going to scalp everybody, including themselves.

01:38:52.000 I understand that's the motivation of the people that are doing it.

01:38:55.000 That's not what I'm concerned with.

01:38:56.000 What I'm concerned with is the problem itself.

01:38:59.000 Because you keep finding a new target.

01:39:02.000 You keep finding a new person who's doing something that's incorrect.

01:39:07.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:39:07.000 They don't want to give up.

01:39:08.000 They want more, more, more.

01:39:09.000 But it's not that they're trying to grab power.

01:39:13.000 Look, you've started a game. 0.99

01:39:15.000 They're losers and want to control reality because they're projecting their own hatred of themselves on us. 0.97

01:39:20.000 You don't think part of it is that they want power to control the discussion? 0.98

01:39:23.000 There's most certainly a part of that.

01:39:25.000 That's human nature.

01:39:26.000 But Joe, you just said I'm hard to deal with.

01:39:29.000 Well, because you talk over people.

01:39:30.000 When they're talking, you don't let them get the full...

01:39:32.000 You've been talking a lot.

01:39:33.000 You don't let people get a full thought out.

01:39:38.000 I do it too.

01:39:39.000 How the censors are good?

01:39:40.000 What I was saying is he's talking and you jump in. 1.00

01:39:43.000 And the problem is, I know you have some things to say, but then you fuck with the thing that's coming out of the other person's mouth. 0.99

01:39:48.000 Okay, explain to me how the censors are loving people. 0.99

01:39:50.000 That's what you're trying to do.

01:39:51.000 I'm not saying they love people.

01:39:52.000 I'm saying they're not looking at it correctly.

01:39:56.000 Because the way they're looking at it, they think they're doing a good thing and they're going to usher forth some utopian world of communication where people are only saying the things they agree with.

01:40:05.000 The problem with that is you don't find out who's right unless you get everybody talking.

01:40:10.000 I agree.

01:40:11.000 But Joe, it's worse than that.

01:40:12.000 You can't have an echo chamber.

01:40:14.000 It's dangerous.

01:40:15.000 Echo chambers are dangerous.

01:40:17.000 And what tech has done is created these left-wing ideological echo chambers.

01:40:22.000 I totally agree.

01:40:22.000 And they're also forcing people into self-censorship.

01:40:25.000 Because if you don't comply with the rules that they've set forth, then you get banned so you comply.

01:40:31.000 And you find people...

01:40:34.000 It's a cult.

01:40:34.000 It is a cult.

01:40:36.000 Ideologically.

01:40:37.000 How about I talk like this?

01:40:38.000 Listen, it is a cult.

01:40:39.000 Joe.

01:40:40.000 I think there's a lot of these cults.

01:40:41.000 Joe, what I'm trying to say to you is you've never been not smoking weed with me on air.

01:40:46.000 I know, it's a bummer.

01:40:47.000 We should have had you come in a week.

01:40:48.000 You're angry.

01:40:49.000 You're upset.

01:40:50.000 I'll be here during the election.

01:40:51.000 I wanted you to be on before the election.

01:40:55.000 Who do you think is going to win, by the way?

01:40:57.000 Donald Trump is going to win.

01:40:58.000 You think so?

01:40:59.000 But then the Democrats are going to contest it.

01:41:01.000 We're going to have the 79 days of hell.

01:41:03.000 Why are all the polls showing that Joe Biden is in the lead? 1.00

01:41:06.000 Do you think it's all bullshit? 0.99

01:41:07.000 Just like last time they said Hillary was going to win. 1.00

01:41:09.000 Yeah, but these are the post-election polls.

01:41:12.000 Joe, what I want to do is talk to you right now.

01:41:14.000 Why are you talking like that? 1.00

01:41:15.000 He's a conspiracy phone sex operator. 0.99

01:41:18.000 Let me talk about what a sexy man you are right now. 0.99

01:41:21.000 He's the only one here drunk.

01:41:23.000 This is a real problem.

01:41:24.000 I am channeling Tim Dillon.

01:41:25.000 That's not how Tim Dillon talks.

01:41:27.000 Tim Dillon's looking at you right now.

01:41:28.000 Do you really think that Trump is going to win?

01:41:30.000 Because it's close.

01:41:31.000 No, he's going to win big.

01:41:32.000 Interesting.

01:41:33.000 Really?

01:41:33.000 But they're going to think that.

01:41:36.000 I was not trying to interrupt you earlier.

01:41:39.000 Well, this is how you talk.

01:41:40.000 It's okay.

01:41:42.000 This is how you talk.

01:41:43.000 Joe, you've talked twice as much in our last four-hour podcast.

01:41:47.000 I love it.

01:41:48.000 This is the sober Joe Rogan.

01:41:51.000 Let's get back to this.

01:41:52.000 Trump.

01:41:53.000 What were we arguing about about political correctness?

01:41:55.000 I don't know, but you were saying that we weren't arguing.

01:41:56.000 He was saying that the censors...

01:41:58.000 I was agreeing with you.

01:41:58.000 The censors, some of the censors are trying to do the right things.

01:42:01.000 Yes.

01:42:02.000 And that you were saying, listen, it's deeper than that, and then that's where we left off.

01:42:07.000 Scientifically set up where they always say, oh, we're for outliers now and dog whistles.

01:42:11.000 It's all about normalizing centralized control.

01:42:15.000 Big tech knows it's psychological algorithms.

01:42:17.000 It's totally destructive.

01:42:19.000 China that has people in Muslims in death camps, Christians in death camps, Buddhists in death camps. 0.98

01:42:25.000 He's trying to totally normalize censorship here domestically when the whole left is involved with Communist China through big tech and doesn't say a word about them. 0.64

01:42:34.000 They have no moral high ground to stand on, Joe.

01:42:38.000 Well, we have a real problem in this society when it comes to tech, first of all, because all the people that are on the moral high ground who are buying iPhones, you know where those things are being made.

01:42:48.000 Like, we all know.

01:42:49.000 Everybody knows.

01:42:50.000 And I admit it.

01:42:50.000 I admit it.

01:42:51.000 I admit it as well.

01:42:52.000 There's no iPhones that are being made in Ohio with highly skilled workers that are paid an excellent wage, and they have great healthcare benefits.

01:43:00.000 That's not what's happening.

01:43:01.000 I don't know why, but that's not what's happening.

01:43:03.000 They've decided that it's better to make them cheaper or better to have a higher profit margin and make them in other countries.

01:43:11.000 Or at least they decided that initially and now they're stuck.

01:43:14.000 Let me ask you this.

01:43:16.000 Who do you think is going to win?

01:43:18.000 I will be very subdued now since I'm bad.

01:43:20.000 Joe Jorgensen.

01:43:22.000 Yeah, I think Joe Jorgensen has a great shot.

01:43:24.000 She's a shoo-in. 1.00

01:43:26.000 And then Kanye West.

01:43:27.000 I think Joe Jorgensen, Kanye West.

01:43:29.000 I think it's neck and neck.

01:43:31.000 You know what drives me crazy?

01:43:32.000 I think it's neck and neck, right?

01:43:33.000 Jennifer Aniston, she made a tweet that said...

01:43:36.000 What drives me crazy is you're hating me right now because you're not drinking.

01:43:40.000 Hold on a second. 0.99

01:43:42.000 There was a fucking hilarious... 0.99

01:43:59.000 That's a joke. 0.99

01:44:07.000 Who do you think?

01:44:07.000 Do you think Trump?

01:44:08.000 I don't know.

01:44:09.000 If you were a friend's character, who would you beat?

01:44:12.000 I'd probably be Matt LeBlanc, right?

01:44:14.000 Then you'd beat Jennifer Aniston.

01:44:15.000 I don't think so.

01:44:19.000 Who is Matt LeBlanc?

01:44:20.000 His name is Joey.

01:44:21.000 Jennifer is the most successful.

01:44:22.000 I identify as Jennifer Aniston. 1.00

01:44:24.000 He was dumb. 1.00

01:44:24.000 I'm dumb. 1.00

01:44:25.000 Perfect. 0.98

01:44:25.000 Wouldn't you like to have a dentist like Jennifer Aniston in Horrible Bosses? 0.98

01:44:29.000 She was a dentist? 0.85

01:44:31.000 What did she do? 0.80

01:44:33.000 Molest her patients when they were under?

01:44:35.000 Okay.

01:44:36.000 Well, you could be molested by worse people.

01:44:38.000 Well, they're not kids.

01:44:39.000 But I just think it's funny that someone who's an actor would say that.

01:44:43.000 Like, this thing that they feel like they have this influence and they're going to change the way people vote.

01:44:47.000 This 80 days of hell you speak of, what does that entail?

01:44:51.000 Just so I can mentally prepare myself.

01:44:52.000 79 days of hell.

01:44:54.000 79 days of hell.

01:44:55.000 79 days without Joe Rogan.

01:44:57.000 What's going to happen?

01:44:58.000 79 days of us locked up in here with cases of whiskey?

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 And huge piles of marijuana.

01:45:04.000 He's lit!

01:45:05.000 He's lit!

01:45:05.000 No, no, no.

01:45:06.000 You're a little lit, buddy.

01:45:07.000 I don't actually...

01:45:07.000 I could see that bottle, and it was a fresh bottle when you sat down.

01:45:10.000 No, that's fake.

01:45:12.000 That's Hollywood.

01:45:13.000 That's not Hollywood.

01:45:14.000 We're in Texas.

01:45:15.000 I gave up Hollywood years ago.

01:45:18.000 I haven't worked in Hollywood in a long time.

01:45:19.000 Let's talk about this.

01:45:20.000 What were you just asking?

01:45:21.000 I don't know.

01:45:22.000 79 days of hell.

01:45:23.000 If the Democrats contest the election.

01:45:24.000 Problem.

01:45:25.000 See, this is not fair.

01:45:27.000 79 days of hell.

01:45:30.000 That's how many days there are after November 3rd to the inauguration.

01:45:34.000 And John Podesta in the New York Times, they had a big war game where the New York Times sat in on a Democrat high-level war game with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and all of them.

01:45:43.000 And they said, we're going to contest.

01:45:45.000 We think we're going to win.

01:45:46.000 But if we lose, we're still going to contest.

01:45:48.000 And we're going to contest, and we're going to call for the U.N. to come there and occupy the U.S. The U.N. is going to occupy the U.S.? And then the New York Times came out and said, we need the U.N., To intervene in the U.S. election, and now the Four Horsemen just called for that yesterday.

01:46:04.000 Jesus.

01:46:04.000 And so they are planning to have...

01:46:06.000 Who's the Four Horsemen?

01:46:07.000 AOC and the rest of the crew.

01:46:09.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:46:11.000 I thought that's the tribe.

01:46:14.000 Anyways, and so they're planning to have Western states secede.

01:46:21.000 And they're saying they're going to hold the election up.

01:46:23.000 You already saw this.

01:46:24.000 They already denied the last election.

01:46:25.000 They can take Portland.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, take it all.

01:46:27.000 Take a lot of the West.

01:46:28.000 This is the 79 days of hell.

01:46:30.000 Let me ask you this.

01:46:31.000 Who cares?

01:46:32.000 When did you decide to try to escape California?

01:46:35.000 Well, I told you.

01:46:36.000 The looting.

01:46:37.000 When the looting hit, I had zero faith in their ability to maintain law and order.

01:46:44.000 Because if you're going to pay all that money in taxes, I feel like you should at least feel like they're protecting things.

01:46:50.000 And when they were just letting them smash windows and cops were told to stand down, particularly in Santa Monica, there was direct orders and the sheriff was being widely criticized for this.

01:47:00.000 They were told to stand down while these people were smashing and looting things.

01:47:04.000 When they were doing that, I was like, well, you can't live in a place where that's being tolerated.

01:47:10.000 Because this goes from stores to, you know, they'll move to nightclubs, they'll move to restaurants, they'll decide what they're going to smash.

01:47:19.000 It had nothing to do with George Floyd.

01:47:21.000 No.

01:47:22.000 It had nothing to do with him.

01:47:23.000 I agree.

01:47:24.000 Those restaurants, those stores, had nothing to do with George Floyd.

01:47:27.000 And now, like in Minnesota, Minneapolis...

01:47:30.000 The crime rate's like triple.

01:47:31.000 The police won't even show up.

01:47:32.000 They're like, people are like, why are you even paying you?

01:47:34.000 So what do you think, both of you...

01:47:37.000 Mr. Dillon, what is the end game of this?

01:47:39.000 I'm going to finish my answer, because I'm not done yet.

01:47:42.000 It was also that there was restrictions that were put in place that didn't make any sense to me.

01:47:46.000 There's restrictions for restaurants, restrictions for comedy clubs, restrictions for gyms.

01:47:51.000 Like, why can't you just wear a mask?

01:47:52.000 Why are churches closed, but Walmart's open?

01:47:55.000 Well, why are churches closed, but why is it okay to protest?

01:47:58.000 Why is everybody letting people protest?

01:48:02.000 Why aren't they saying, listen, I understand your want and desire to protest, but understand that you're most likely contributing to the spread of this virus?

01:48:10.000 Because that's a fact.

01:48:11.000 Right.

01:48:12.000 Even if you support the protests.

01:48:14.000 I agree.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, the end game seems to be if you let society get bad enough, people will then accept all these more draconian security measures and censorship across the board with tech.

01:48:26.000 Do you think that's what's going on with California?

01:48:28.000 Like, why do you think they've kept California locked down this much?

01:48:32.000 They want to kill the U.S. economy.

01:48:34.000 China's been open for six months.

01:48:36.000 They admit it's leaked out that they're doing this to kill the U.S. economy.

01:48:39.000 It's leaked out how?

01:48:42.000 It's come out.

01:48:42.000 Democratic Party reports.

01:48:45.000 It's been stated.

01:48:46.000 You heard Democrats all over the news say we want a depression to make Trump look bad.

01:48:50.000 Who said this?

01:48:52.000 Bill Maher.

01:48:53.000 Yeah, but Bill Maher is not a part of the Democratic Party.

01:48:55.000 He's a comic.

01:48:56.000 I know, but I used a public...

01:48:57.000 Bill Maher, but he jokes around about that.

01:48:59.000 Like, look, we can crash the economy.

01:49:01.000 Okay, well, regardless, when Jews try to, or Baptists in New York try to have an event, the police show up and arrest them. 0.76

01:49:07.000 But then when Antifa or BLM was around and burned stuff down, the mayor said it's great. 1.00

01:49:11.000 And the mayor said, de Blasio said, this is legitimate.

01:49:15.000 Antifa is legitimate.

01:49:16.000 Your church isn't.

01:49:16.000 Your synagogue isn't.

01:49:17.000 So it's power.

01:49:18.000 It's selective enforcement.

01:49:20.000 It's martial law.

01:49:22.000 I have articles right here because everything I brought today, I have the proof.

01:49:25.000 ABC News is reporting in blue cities in Texas that they're going to come to your house and demand a COVID test, and if you don't, they're going to arrest you.

01:49:33.000 Well, the federal and state courts have ruled they can't do that.

01:49:35.000 Where's that being said?

01:49:37.000 El Paso, Texas, and other areas.

01:49:39.000 But I want to bring you back to what you're saying about Crash the Economy.

01:49:41.000 You used Bill Maher as an example, and I just don't think that's a credible example because he's a comic.

01:49:45.000 Well, he said that.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, but he's a comic and he's not a politician.

01:49:49.000 Comics have bigger coverage than news people now.

01:49:51.000 That's what Cobert and all them pose as news people.

01:49:54.000 Alex, you're...

01:49:55.000 You can't use him as an example of someone who's a politician who is calling for the economy to crash.

01:50:02.000 Strategically, if I was a Democrat, I wouldn't want things to open up again until Trump was out, right?

01:50:08.000 Agreed.

01:50:08.000 I mean, that's strategic.

01:50:09.000 Agreed.

01:50:09.000 If you didn't want the economy to return.

01:50:11.000 China wants us shut down.

01:50:13.000 China admits they're using the virus to keep us shut down. 0.95

01:50:16.000 Do you think he's a bioweapon?

01:50:17.000 I could give you an hour-long treatise on COVID-19.

01:50:19.000 Okay, we'll get to that momentarily.

01:50:21.000 I don't want to anger you, though.

01:50:24.000 No, I love being here.

01:50:25.000 I'll sit here and tell fart jokes if you want.

01:50:27.000 I'd rather get drunk and just have a good time.

01:50:29.000 Before we get to that, you said something that I want you to back up.

01:50:34.000 You said that the Democrats are trying.

01:50:36.000 I'm not denying the possibility that this is the case.

01:50:39.000 But this seems like if that was the case, it would be a grand conspiracy that would at least have...

01:50:45.000 You'd have to have some evidence of this to make that statement.

01:50:48.000 That they're trying or they want to crash the economy because they want to maintain power and to change censorship and to change...

01:50:59.000 Okay, we've had Governor Newsom, we've had Governor...

01:51:03.000 Cuomo.

01:51:03.000 ...Witmer, Cuomo, exactly, all say...

01:51:07.000 The economy isn't going to be open because Trump's done a bad job.

01:51:10.000 We're not going to open until he's gone.

01:51:12.000 And Whitmer's even come out.

01:51:14.000 Wait a minute.

01:51:14.000 Newsom has openly said that.

01:51:16.000 You sure?

01:51:17.000 Yeah, type it in.

01:51:18.000 But what do you think he's said?

01:51:21.000 Listen, I'm a critic of Newsom because he's become an autocrat.

01:51:27.000 He keeps his wineries open.

01:51:28.000 But there's a lot of issues, right?

01:51:30.000 There's a lot of issues.

01:51:32.000 They close so many things.

01:51:34.000 Joe, Joe, Joe.

01:51:37.000 Globalism was about selling America off and bankrupting us under Cloward and Piven's strategies.

01:51:41.000 That's fine, but don't change the subject.

01:51:43.000 I'm not.

01:51:44.000 Specifically what Newsom has said.

01:51:47.000 They can pull it up, just like I told you about the AT&T deal.

01:51:49.000 But what did he say that you think...

01:51:51.000 And again, I'm not a fan of him.

01:51:54.000 I'm a critic.

01:51:55.000 Listen, I think you've got to give people, grown adults, the choice.

01:51:59.000 Look, we don't have overrun hospitals.

01:52:02.000 We don't have people dying in record numbers.

01:52:04.000 We don't have 5% death rates.

01:52:06.000 We don't have 1%.

01:52:07.000 They keep saying the cases and the deaths are increasing.

01:52:10.000 That is true.

01:52:11.000 But as long as there's a disease, they're going to increase.

01:52:14.000 The question is, at what rate?

01:52:16.000 And the people that are dying, how many of them have comorbidity factors?

01:52:21.000 It's never about the death rate.

01:52:22.000 It's always about increased infection because the death rate's way down.

01:52:25.000 The death rate is way down.

01:52:26.000 As soon as the winter hits, they're going to say it's flu.

01:52:29.000 Alex, you get me again.

01:52:33.000 When you say the deaths increase, that is going to happen.

01:52:37.000 The question is, by what rate?

01:52:40.000 And how many?

01:52:41.000 Right?

01:52:42.000 You take the normal flu and pneumonia and morbidity, like they did this year, and you add that to the number.

01:52:48.000 They've already run the same scam.

01:52:50.000 They don't count flu as a death or pneumonia anymore.

01:52:52.000 They all count it COVID because they get money on the chart.

01:52:55.000 They get $50,000 plus when they call it a COVID death plus when they say that.

01:53:00.000 They get $13,000 to say it's a COVID patient, and they get $29,000 or whatever extra when they intubate somebody.

01:53:08.000 And so now, since when is Congress saying how to do medicine?

01:53:13.000 Well, isn't the idea that they're doing this to give money to these hospitals to help them in the middle of a pandemic?

01:53:20.000 Yeah, but then the hospitals code everything as COVID to get the money.

01:53:24.000 That's come out.

01:53:25.000 Most people that died, died in nursing homes or died from intubation when it's an autoimmune event and you don't want intubation.

01:53:32.000 It's intubation that's killing people.

01:53:33.000 But they initially thought you did have to have it because it was respiratory disease.

01:53:36.000 And thank God the numbers went down because they stopped intubating.

01:53:39.000 So now it's all about everyone's being...

01:53:41.000 Before, there's this high death rate because they were intubating and they were killing old people.

01:53:47.000 As soon as they stopped shipping folks to old homes that weren't getting vitamin D because there was no sun, it went like this.

01:53:52.000 So infections like this, you can pull up the graphs, you're like, what's your science?

01:53:57.000 Pull it up.

01:53:58.000 Infections like this, deaths like this.

01:54:00.000 Right.

01:54:00.000 Well, you're going up and down, right?

01:54:01.000 Deaths down.

01:54:02.000 Now, what did Gavin Newsom say, though, when you said that he said it's not going to get better until Trump's out of office?

01:54:11.000 Well, it's Whitmer that said that specifically, and he said Cuomo, because I remember that too.

01:54:15.000 But he was just basically like, well, I want to be friends with Trump.

01:54:18.000 There's been a bad response.

01:54:19.000 We've got to keep the lockdown going.

01:54:20.000 And, you know, until Trump does this wrong, until we have a change, it's going to continue on.

01:54:24.000 And then it's always about the power grab.

01:54:26.000 Like, oh, it's two years.

01:54:27.000 We have to do it.

01:54:28.000 First, it's 15 days to keep the hospitals empty.

01:54:31.000 And then it's...

01:54:33.000 Then it's, oh, six months, and now it's two years, and then Gates said, like a week ago, it's ten years, and now they've got the people, Fauci and others, saying, no, it never ends.

01:54:42.000 You never shake hands, and under the UN rules, they say, don't look at someone and turn your head.

01:54:48.000 So in Europe, you can type this in, Citizens in the UK told, do not look at other people and turn your head.

01:54:55.000 It's cult programming, man.

01:54:57.000 I think it's a pretty common talking point.

01:54:59.000 And some people agree with it.

01:55:00.000 Like, a lot of Democrats would say, yeah, it's not going to get better until Trump is out because Trump has made a mess of it.

01:55:05.000 I don't think Trump's done the best.

01:55:06.000 Yeah, that's what he said.

01:55:07.000 But that's a common talking point.

01:55:09.000 What could he have done better?

01:55:11.000 He's done better. 1.00

01:55:12.000 He shut down flights from China in February when Pelosi's running around in Chinatown saying, damn. 0.98

01:55:18.000 I think it's a pretty common belief that they're saying, listen, I don't think it's a conspiracy. 0.98

01:55:23.000 I don't think you have to find a source.

01:55:24.000 I think it's like they believe that it won't get better until he's gone.

01:55:29.000 So I don't think they actively are trying to make it better until he's gone.

01:55:33.000 You see what I mean?

01:55:34.000 They want to keep the crisis going.

01:55:36.000 I do see what you're saying.

01:55:37.000 I just want to know if there's evidence.

01:55:39.000 I want to know if there's an actual statement where he said, when Trump leaves, then we'll open back up.

01:55:45.000 That's actually what Whitmer said specifically, but he said some more things.

01:55:49.000 I'm going from memory here.

01:55:51.000 I understand, but that's why I'm challenging you on this.

01:55:54.000 I'm challenging you on this because...

01:55:58.000 Give me this event letter.

01:55:59.000 People online are going to want to challenge you on this.

01:56:01.000 Right.

01:56:02.000 Well, that's what they loved about our last interview over a year and a half ago, which they loved, was that people could go and actually check the stuff I was saying, no matter how crazy.

01:56:10.000 Yes, and a lot of it is true.

01:56:10.000 So I want to find that quote now.

01:56:12.000 See if Whitmer said that it won't get better until Trump's out of office, in terms of the lockdown, restrictions.

01:56:20.000 Yeah, Whitmer.

01:56:20.000 Whitmer, lockdown won't end until Trump's out.

01:56:22.000 Didn't she lose some court case recently?

01:56:24.000 Yes.

01:56:25.000 The Hearst Supreme Court, but also federal courts have ruled across the country that you can't order churches to wear masks.

01:56:32.000 You can't order social distancing.

01:56:33.000 It's all just getting us to comply.

01:56:36.000 Don't you think it's a good idea to encourage people to wear masks if they're going into large gatherings?

01:56:42.000 A lot of studies show that it doesn't even protect you.

01:56:44.000 Listen, Trump told the truth a few days ago when he came out and he said, we're never going to control this.

01:56:50.000 We have to learn herd immunity, or if you're really scared of it, take a vaccine.

01:56:53.000 And the head epidemiologist of Rockefeller...

01:56:56.000 A hospital came out and said that and got banned on YouTube.

01:56:59.000 I mean, listen, Italy did social distancing. 0.50

01:57:01.000 Italy did masks.

01:57:02.000 Italy did everything you were supposed to do, and they're getting clobbered again. 1.00

01:57:07.000 So that makes me think that maybe it's not a bad idea to do these things, but they don't seem to prevent a second wave.

01:57:14.000 Sweden didn't do any of it, and it's the lowest death rate in Europe.

01:57:18.000 Right, but it's also a country of small villages.

01:57:21.000 They have a whole different way of life over there.

01:57:23.000 Well, I mean, Italy is a bunch of three generations living in one house. 0.99

01:57:26.000 Yeah, that's the problem.

01:57:27.000 And they're the oldest people in Europe.

01:57:29.000 That's the problem.

01:57:30.000 So, yeah, they need sunlight.

01:57:32.000 They smoke.

01:57:33.000 They're awesome.

01:57:34.000 They eat good food.

01:57:34.000 Try finding a gym over there.

01:57:36.000 Jesus Christ.

01:57:37.000 They smoke on the treadmill. 1.00

01:57:37.000 Every time I fucking go there, it's hard to find a gym. 1.00

01:57:40.000 Listen, exactly. 1.00

01:57:41.000 Enjoy your life.

01:57:43.000 Joe, I came out eight months ago, and I was selling the stuff, but I said, get it at the store.

01:57:49.000 Vitamin D, vitamin C, and zinc.

01:57:52.000 If you have that on the NIH website, it can't, according to the NIH website, cannot replicate inside the mitochondria where the virus plugs into the cell and makes it replicate.

01:58:04.000 Okay?

01:58:05.000 And so I just, I mean, like, Jones claims he's got a cure.

01:58:08.000 No, it's not a cure.

01:58:09.000 If you've got sunlight and zinc and vitamin C and all these things you need, it's very hard to get these things.

01:58:14.000 That's why it's old people in nursing homes that haven't been outside in years that are dying so easily.

01:58:19.000 Now, Fauci finally, two months ago, came out and said, you need vitamin D, you need vitamin C, you need zinc.

01:58:24.000 Well, that is true.

01:58:24.000 And young Jamie takes vitamin D and he kicked it in a day.

01:58:29.000 And vitamin C and zinc.

01:58:31.000 Young Jamie was feeling bad for a day.

01:58:33.000 But I don't want to argue, Joe.

01:58:35.000 I want to just say I love Bill Gates.

01:58:39.000 Okay.

01:58:39.000 I use Windows.

01:58:41.000 I'm looking for the quote.

01:58:42.000 I can't find a specific quote that says that.

01:58:45.000 There's lots of quotes about them going back and forth, obviously, because they've had a public battle.

01:58:49.000 I just think anybody like that, whether it's Bill Gates or Bezos or anybody who's a billionaire, if they say, here's the suggested course of action, they have to expect that they're going to be criticized.

01:58:57.000 And a lot of these guys don't like taking any criticism when they're issuing edicts.

01:59:02.000 These are billionaires that are saying, this is how we're going to live.

01:59:06.000 Yeah, that's the next big question.

01:59:07.000 Isn't it strange, though, that Bill Gates, who is not a health expert, is all of a sudden one of the leading voices?

01:59:14.000 Yes, it's strange.

01:59:15.000 It's curious.

01:59:15.000 But that's my next question.

01:59:17.000 Why is Bill Gates, who's not a doctor, suddenly on TV telling me how my life's going to go and what I'm going to do?

01:59:24.000 This is the most important part of it.

01:59:25.000 Why is this a big project for him?

01:59:27.000 Well, he's also a guy that wanted to shoot a missile of dust into the atmosphere to help climate change.

01:59:31.000 I mean...

01:59:32.000 Very few people in history have had the resources to even think of doing something like that.

01:59:36.000 That's right.

01:59:36.000 He wants to have jet spray chemicals to block the sun.

01:59:40.000 Right.

01:59:40.000 And the scientists went, no good.

01:59:43.000 They went, not a good idea.

01:59:45.000 And then if you call him on that, if you call him on that, he goes...

01:59:47.000 The lies and the conspiracy theories.

01:59:51.000 It's like, no, we're just asking you why you want to shoot missiles into space.

01:59:54.000 Here's an example.

01:59:54.000 He went on CBS News and they go, 80% of those taking your vaccine trial are getting very sick.

01:59:59.000 Some are dying.

02:00:00.000 He's like, well, that's just how it is.

02:00:01.000 You can pull this clips up.

02:00:03.000 What?

02:00:04.000 Yeah.

02:00:05.000 He said, that's just how it is?

02:00:06.000 Yeah.

02:00:06.000 He said, well, the FDA is going to approve it.

02:00:12.000 He's beet red.

02:00:13.000 Look at you.

02:00:14.000 You're blending in with the walls.

02:00:17.000 But yeah, it's a problem.

02:00:18.000 That's hilarious.

02:00:20.000 That's a problem.

02:00:21.000 It's a problem. 0.98

02:00:22.000 You know, I'm kind of retarded. 0.78

02:00:23.000 This is... 0.87

02:00:24.000 That meme is hilarious.

02:00:26.000 For two years, they said Trump worked for...

02:00:27.000 I've heard of political mudslinging my whole life.

02:00:30.000 For two years, they said Trump was an agent of Russia.

02:00:33.000 He was an asset of Russia.

02:00:35.000 The president.

02:00:36.000 Then they did a whole report and then it came out that he wasn't.

02:00:39.000 There was no proof of it.

02:00:41.000 The CIA, the NSA, everybody.

02:00:42.000 And then they went like this.

02:00:43.000 They went, well, we might have been wrong about that.

02:00:46.000 One of the most disturbing things to me was when Ted Cruz was cross-examining Comey when he was asking him questions about what they did with evidence and how they doctored evidence.

02:00:56.000 What do you got, Jamie?

02:00:57.000 Oh.

02:00:59.000 I just can't believe that Brian Redband is here.

02:01:01.000 He saved us.

02:01:03.000 Brian flew in when Jamie tested positive for cooties.

02:01:06.000 Have I known him like 16 years?

02:01:08.000 Yeah, forever.

02:01:09.000 So we had to have the protocol was you have to be 10 days and you have to test negative three days in a row.

02:01:16.000 Should Brian move here?

02:01:16.000 Yeah, Brian's going to move here.

02:01:17.000 He's looking at houses right now.

02:01:18.000 You are too.

02:01:19.000 Tim's gonna move here.

02:01:20.000 I might. 1.00

02:01:21.000 You're moving here, bitch. 1.00

02:01:21.000 I might. 1.00

02:01:22.000 Come on, son.

02:01:22.000 I don't know.

02:01:23.000 I gotta save L.A. first from the Satanists.

02:01:26.000 Listen, it's not coming back.

02:01:28.000 I know.

02:01:29.000 Hey, let's talk about that.

02:01:30.000 The club's not coming back.

02:01:30.000 Please, a little bit of stuff.

02:01:31.000 I don't want to fight Joe.

02:01:33.000 We're not fighting.

02:01:34.000 And I'm not...

02:01:36.000 This much apple juice, I'm having trouble thinking.

02:01:38.000 It's okay.

02:01:39.000 I love you.

02:01:39.000 No, you did this.

02:01:40.000 Just have some.

02:01:41.000 No, I can't.

02:01:42.000 I can't.

02:01:42.000 I made a promise.

02:01:43.000 But on election night, I can pop in.

02:01:45.000 That's November 3rd.

02:01:46.000 That's November.

02:01:46.000 But I will be able to pop in.

02:01:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:49.000 We're very excited.

02:01:50.000 Put that down.

02:01:50.000 I have six more days of sobriety.

02:01:53.000 That's going to be a fight.

02:01:53.000 But I got to be honest, I'm a little high from this cigar.

02:01:56.000 Hey, you couldn't have a bigger promo for your election night.

02:01:59.000 I'm glad you actually announced it here.

02:02:01.000 Well, Kyle Kalinske's been asking when he can announce it, so now you know Kyle.

02:02:06.000 There you go, it's official.

02:02:07.000 There you go, Kyle.

02:02:07.000 I'm excited to get everybody in the room and watch the demise of Western civilization in real time.

02:02:12.000 Can I show you some stuff?

02:02:13.000 Yeah, what do you got?

02:02:15.000 Do we ever find a quote for Whitmer?

02:02:17.000 I can't find anything.

02:02:18.000 There's lots of quotes, but I can't find anything.

02:02:20.000 Do you want me to find it?

02:02:21.000 Can you?

02:02:22.000 Just Google it on your phone, and Tim and I will talk amongst ourselves.

02:02:25.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:02:25.000 And then we'll pull up whatever that is.

02:02:27.000 Okay.

02:02:27.000 Gretchen Whitmer, they almost kidnapped her, by the way.

02:02:30.000 Here it is.

02:02:30.000 No, I don't have it.

02:02:31.000 I'm just saying that's what I'm typing.

02:02:32.000 Oh, Whitmer, when Trump leaves office, quote.

02:02:34.000 There was a kidnapping plan against her.

02:02:37.000 No, it's Whitmer.

02:02:39.000 Which 50% of the- Lockdowns won't end until Trump gone.

02:02:42.000 Come on.

02:02:42.000 Right.

02:02:43.000 Lockdowns won't end till Trump gone.

02:02:45.000 Try that.

02:02:46.000 Whatever, I know it's true.

02:02:47.000 I don't need to find it.

02:02:48.000 Whitmer, lockdowns won't end till Trump gone.

02:02:50.000 He'll find it.

02:02:51.000 Yeah, the plot to assassinate her. 1.00

02:02:54.000 What the fuck was that all about? 1.00

02:02:55.000 It was a plot to kidnap her. 1.00

02:02:56.000 That was weird.

02:02:56.000 And I predicted up front that it was going to be FBI provocateurs and it turned out the two leaders were FBI informants.

02:03:02.000 What?

02:03:03.000 What's even crazier is 52% of the citizens of Michigan agreed with the plot.

02:03:07.000 That's a joke.

02:03:11.000 That's a good one.

02:03:12.000 They're going to edit that part where you say that's a joke.

02:03:16.000 Joe Rogan's guest calls for kidnapping.

02:03:18.000 This is outrageous!

02:03:20.000 De-platform!

02:03:21.000 This is central control!

02:03:23.000 When I went on Alex's show, Alex goes, Snopes always goes and finds that joke.

02:03:26.000 He makes it there and they go, Correction, Hillary Clinton is not an Oompa Loompa. 1.00

02:03:30.000 Did you guys see that...

02:03:32.000 Brett Weinstein's Unity 2020 account was also banned from Twitter.

02:03:37.000 My producer just told me that.

02:03:37.000 His Unity 2020 account, which was calling for a third party, was calling for unity between people on the right and the left to get together and have conversations and perhaps even have an alternative candidate.

02:03:49.000 That's outrageous. 0.95

02:03:50.000 Well, he's a fucking scholar, and he's a guy who became famous because he was a professor at Evergreen University, and the leftists took over the college. 0.99

02:03:57.000 When they said we're going to shut it down and whites can't come one day a month. 1.00

02:04:00.000 Yeah.

02:04:01.000 And then they banned him.

02:04:02.000 Yes.

02:04:03.000 Well, they didn't just ban him.

02:04:05.000 They went looking for him in the parking lot with a baseball bat.

02:04:08.000 They chased around with baseball bats, yeah. 1.00

02:04:09.000 It was terrifying shit. 0.99

02:04:10.000 So let me ask this. 1.00

02:04:11.000 And then the principal was going along with everything.

02:04:14.000 Literally, they yelled at the principal, don't gesture with your hands.

02:04:18.000 Because you're threatening us, but he was talking like this, like, put your hands up!

02:04:23.000 British universities, like Oxford, I think is the one, look it up, Oxford or Cambridge, one of the big ones, you can't clap!

02:04:30.000 It's a microaggression, Joe.

02:04:32.000 Oh, that's so crazy.

02:04:32.000 But this is what we were talking about for years, and people were saying, why are you concerned with what happens in the universities?

02:04:38.000 It's the same thing we were saying about censorship. 0.99

02:04:40.000 Because it fucking, it keeps going. 1.00

02:04:43.000 It doesn't stop. 1.00

02:04:44.000 When you allow that kind of nonsense in universities, those kids graduate, and they want to carry these goofy fucking practices into all of these corporations. 0.99

02:04:52.000 And you're seeing that now. 0.99

02:04:54.000 You're seeing that now.

02:04:55.000 This is one of the things I wrote down I wanted to ask you, Joe and Tim Dillon.

02:05:00.000 What happens?

02:05:01.000 Where do they stop?

02:05:02.000 Because they're going to keep running until they hit opposition, which is starting to happen.

02:05:05.000 How far does it go?

02:05:06.000 I was hoping there was going to be some sort of a federal regulation.

02:05:10.000 I was hoping that Trump was going to step in and they were going to amend the First Amendment to include social media.

02:05:15.000 Because I think what you're seeing now, the argument that these are just...

02:05:21.000 Just private corporations.

02:05:23.000 I don't think that argument is valid anymore because the impact that they have, the significance of being able to speak or not being able to speak has massive implications on our election.

02:05:32.000 We see this with the New York Post being censored.

02:05:35.000 We see it with the New York Post being censored with this Hunter Biden story. 0.98

02:05:38.000 Whether you agree with the story being leaked or not, the fact that the New York fucking Post, which is a legitimate newspaper, as outrageous as they are, and the fact that the fucking White House press secretary gets banned from Twitter... 0.98

02:05:50.000 For tweeting that link. 0.98

02:05:51.000 That's very dangerous.

02:05:52.000 This is crazy.

02:05:53.000 I mean, I think it leads to, sadly, it leads to violence.

02:05:55.000 Because if you take everybody's ability to communicate away, there's nothing left to do but commit acts of violence.

02:06:00.000 And by the way, that's a Kennedy quote.

02:06:02.000 Those that make peaceful revolution.

02:06:04.000 Jamie found something.

02:06:04.000 This is as close as I could get to what he's asking to be found.

02:06:08.000 Okay, the Trump virus response is the worst in the globe, she said.

02:06:12.000 If you're tired of lockdowns, or you're tired of wearing masks, or you wish you were in church this morning, or watching college football, or your kids were getting in-person instruction, it's time for a change in this country, and that's why we've got to elect Joe Biden.

02:06:29.000 I mean, that's pretty...

02:06:33.000 That's right.

02:06:33.000 I mean, you can make that...

02:06:35.000 You can make it say whatever you want almost.

02:06:36.000 Yeah.

02:06:37.000 But that's the common sentiment, right?

02:06:39.000 This is pretty much...

02:06:40.000 The problem is, the problem is, if you just take it from if you're tired of lockdowns, you would get one interpretation of it.

02:06:50.000 But if you back it up to the Trump virus response is the worst in the globe, she said, if you're tired of lockdowns.

02:06:57.000 So what she's saying is...

02:06:58.000 I think we're splitting airs.

02:06:59.000 I mean, you're not necessarily.

02:07:01.000 Because what she's saying is...

02:07:03.000 Okay, well I saw a clip of her in a speech saying that. 0.96

02:07:05.000 Because that's the problem with taking something out of context.

02:07:07.000 What she's saying is...

02:07:08.000 I mean, listen.

02:07:09.000 We've got a wonderful person.

02:07:10.000 No, I'm not saying that. 0.93

02:07:11.000 What she's saying is that Trump has done such a shitty job, that's the reason why we're locked down and you can't go to church. 0.97

02:07:16.000 No, I get it. 0.98

02:07:17.000 The headline was...

02:07:18.000 I don't know if that's true, though.

02:07:19.000 I think when you've got a contagious disease, you've got people flying in from Europe and China and all these other countries that are expressing.

02:07:26.000 You're going to have spread. 0.99

02:07:27.000 I mean, this is a fucking insanely contagious disease. 0.99

02:07:30.000 Listen, Joe, one of my favorite parts of your show is when you ask Jamie for something and the light turns on when you're looking at it. 0.99

02:07:35.000 Let me ask you this.

02:07:37.000 You're into numerology.

02:07:37.000 How hammered are you right now?

02:07:39.000 On scale one at 10. Not at all.

02:07:40.000 We're into numerology.

02:07:41.000 This is when it gets good.

02:07:43.000 You better.

02:07:45.000 Okay.

02:07:48.000 Just be nice to me, Joe.

02:07:50.000 I am being nice to you.

02:07:51.000 You got me here.

02:07:51.000 I know you are.

02:07:52.000 Let's get serious.

02:07:53.000 Everybody wants to hear what I actually have to say.

02:07:54.000 Okay.

02:07:55.000 What was the question?

02:07:56.000 You had me on 9-11.

02:07:59.000 Yes.

02:07:59.000 12-5-5, now 1-5-5-5.

02:08:02.000 Yeah, don't connect the dots.

02:08:04.000 I'm in town.

02:08:05.000 It's random.

02:08:06.000 Well, you told me you picked 9-11 on purpose.

02:08:08.000 Yeah, that was on purpose.

02:08:09.000 Yeah, it was just fun.

02:08:11.000 Nothing bad.

02:08:13.000 Do you understand how this quote, you could interpret that in a different way?

02:08:19.000 The entire Democratic Party strategy is to say Trump is to blame for COVID and to say the economy is shut down until you get them elected.

02:08:26.000 I don't think that's what she's saying.

02:08:28.000 They're all saying, Joe Biden's like, we're going to end this COVID by endless lockdowns once Trump's out.

02:08:34.000 If you want to go back to normal, do this.

02:08:36.000 Listen, this is an end of civilization event.

02:08:39.000 The Rockefellers and others put out Operation Lockstep.

02:08:42.000 They're never going to stop this.

02:08:43.000 They're going to have COVID tracking.

02:08:45.000 They're going to have checkpoints.

02:08:46.000 They're going to have apps on your phone.

02:08:49.000 So how do we stop this?

02:08:50.000 What Trump came out and did and said, we cannot defeat this with vaccines.

02:08:56.000 And with COVID tracking, with shutdowns, it's going to have to be with herd immunity, which is what the scientist actually brought articles.

02:09:05.000 Why can't we beat it with what he beat it with?

02:09:07.000 He's 74 and he eats french fries every day. 1.00

02:09:09.000 This motherfucker kicked it in four days. 1.00

02:09:11.000 That's what I'm telling you. 1.00

02:09:12.000 That's supposed to be a death sentence for old people. 1.00

02:09:13.000 Joe, if you've got vitamin D, vitamin C, and zinc, it's very hard to get...

02:09:17.000 Okay, but clearly he's got more than vitamin D, vitamin C, and zinc.

02:09:21.000 He's got a bunch of medical treatments.

02:09:23.000 He was given Regeneron.

02:09:24.000 He was given things that are expensive and probably not widely available.

02:09:28.000 But wait a minute.

02:09:29.000 Jamie tested positive.

02:09:30.000 He's right over there a day later.

02:09:31.000 Jamie's young and viral.

02:09:33.000 I'm saying, since when did something come along?

02:09:38.000 Civilization is over.

02:09:40.000 Civilization is over because of this thing that came out of China. 1.00

02:09:44.000 You want to ask where COVID came from?

02:09:46.000 You want to ask where it is?

02:09:47.000 Jamie, do you feel better about the disease now that you kicked it so quickly?

02:09:52.000 How old are you?

02:09:54.000 Not at first.

02:09:54.000 How old are you?

02:09:55.000 37. At first I was a little worried for the first day.

02:09:57.000 I was like, oh shit. 0.99

02:09:58.000 Here we go. 0.99

02:09:58.000 Are we going down like a two week, three week, four week? 0.99

02:10:01.000 Ventilator time?

02:10:01.000 Months.

02:10:02.000 Right. 0.99

02:10:03.000 Because you've talked to people on the show that have been fucked up by it. 0.99

02:10:06.000 Sure. 0.94

02:10:06.000 How lucky am I going to be today is also what I was thinking. 0.94

02:10:09.000 But you were also taking all the vitamins.

02:10:12.000 I mean, yeah, I got all that.

02:10:14.000 We had NAD and all that stuff, too, in my system, so maybe that helped.

02:10:17.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

02:10:18.000 I'm sure it did, of course.

02:10:20.000 Statistically, they said 5% of us would be dead.

02:10:22.000 It's not even.1%.

02:10:23.000 Well, they thought that, though.

02:10:25.000 This is what they thought.

02:10:26.000 But they're the all-powerful gods.

02:10:27.000 It's like the UN says, you will not question us, Big Tech says.

02:10:30.000 You will not question anything the UN says.

02:10:34.000 Meanwhile, the UN's like, oh, we shouldn't do a lockdown.

02:10:35.000 It's killing millions of people's starvation.

02:10:38.000 But still, it's like, we're keeping the lockdown going, the United Nations said.

02:10:41.000 Well, what do you think should be done?

02:10:44.000 I mean, I think we should look at something that isn't much worse than the flu and say we all need natural vitamins and nutraceuticals and sunlight and health, and people just know they've got to deal with it the way it is because we always get diseases.

02:10:57.000 We always get viruses.

02:10:58.000 We always live with it.

02:10:59.000 The idea we've got to lock society down and go into our houses, and this is a post-industrial move.

02:11:06.000 That they're using to roll out these systems to keep us locked down in our homes.

02:11:31.000 Injust.

02:11:32.000 Injust or unjust or whatever, and they want to use this opportunity to kind of redraw the lines.

02:11:37.000 Exactly.

02:11:37.000 They do that after 9-11.

02:11:38.000 Exactly.

02:11:39.000 This is the new 9-11.

02:11:40.000 The UN and the Davos group all say, this is the post-industrial world, the Great Reset.

02:11:47.000 I've got a copy of it for right here.

02:11:49.000 And they say, in these documents, we are going to reorganize society.

02:11:54.000 COVID is good to shut down the carbon.

02:11:56.000 Carbon is bad.

02:11:57.000 We're going to end success.

02:11:58.000 We're going to end prosperity.

02:12:00.000 We're going to track everybody.

02:12:01.000 We're going to control their lives all under the name of COVID. They said all that?

02:12:05.000 They said we're going to end success.

02:12:06.000 We're going to end prosperity.

02:12:08.000 Yeah, in the lockstep Rockefeller document 2010, they say, we'll have a viral release or a simulated one that creates total fear.

02:12:15.000 We'll bring up police state, martial law.

02:12:17.000 Is this available for someone to read?

02:12:19.000 Absolutely.

02:12:19.000 Alex, wasn't there something called Agenda 21 or something where they were saying, we want people living in cities.

02:12:23.000 We don't want home ownership.

02:12:25.000 Compact cities, yeah.

02:12:27.000 And you were saying it earlier.

02:12:28.000 They go, oh, it's for the greater good that we don't have cars anymore.

02:12:31.000 It's for the greater good we don't have single...

02:12:32.000 No, that's not what I was saying.

02:12:33.000 What I was doing was playing devil's advocate.

02:12:35.000 No, you were quoting them.

02:12:36.000 What I was saying...

02:12:37.000 I'm not saying you said that, Joe.

02:12:39.000 You believe in that.

02:12:39.000 I was saying that autonomous...

02:12:40.000 I do believe in cars, too.

02:12:42.000 Autonomous vehicles are, in the future at least, likely to be safer than people just driving and texting.

02:12:48.000 Well, it's not safe giving control over these corporations and robots and making ourselves obsolete.

02:12:52.000 We need to build a pro-human future.

02:12:54.000 Oh, I'm pro-human.

02:12:56.000 No, I know you are.

02:12:57.000 I'm not saying you're not, Joe.

02:12:58.000 The Rockefeller thing from 2010. That sounds a weird segue.

02:13:01.000 I'm pro-human.

02:13:02.000 I started...

02:13:03.000 I was already looking this up, as you mentioned it, because I was going down my own little rabbit hole.

02:13:07.000 It says, when I first started to find it, my first search just says, there's a small, a large conspiracy that's been built out of this small grain of truth from this document from 2010. Okay.

02:13:16.000 That's what it starts to say.

02:13:17.000 Oh, is that Snopes?

02:13:19.000 Small grain of truth.

02:13:20.000 Yeah.

02:13:20.000 So Snopes is like God.

02:13:22.000 I don't think, is it Snopes that you Googled?

02:13:23.000 Let's focus on the grain of truth.

02:13:25.000 No, no, no.

02:13:25.000 Who says it's a grain of truth?

02:13:27.000 Hold on.

02:13:27.000 I got a line.

02:13:28.000 No, no.

02:13:28.000 It's Operation Lockstep, and it says a global police state will be brought in from a pandemic, and there'll be worldwide martial law.

02:13:36.000 It actually says it in the document.

02:13:38.000 Okay.

02:13:38.000 It's like they always go like, oh, there's no Hunter emails.

02:13:41.000 They admit the emails are real.

02:13:42.000 Right.

02:13:43.000 I love that clock.

02:13:44.000 It is weird that they're saying TGT Studios.

02:13:47.000 It is weird.

02:13:48.000 Here's a document.

02:13:49.000 Okay.

02:13:49.000 The Rockefeller Foundation Annual Report, 2010. I'll control F. What would you like me to look up?

02:13:56.000 Look up police state.

02:13:59.000 Yeah, just look up police state.

02:14:00.000 Don't forget the exact words.

02:14:02.000 I mean, let's just go read it for yourself.

02:14:04.000 Control F police state.

02:14:05.000 Nothing came up.

02:14:06.000 This is just one paper?

02:14:07.000 That's it?

02:14:08.000 I mean, that's the whole PDF. It's really, really long.

02:14:11.000 So when you control F police state, nothing?

02:14:14.000 Okay, what else?

02:14:16.000 I've read it before it says that, so anybody can go read it right now.

02:14:20.000 So you think they edited it?

02:14:21.000 No.

02:14:22.000 No, I can't remember the exact word.

02:14:24.000 Okay, well, let's look up pandemic.

02:14:26.000 Look up pandemic.

02:14:31.000 Pandemic just means widely distributed.

02:14:32.000 Epidemic means you're actually sick.

02:14:34.000 Four mentions of the word pandemic.

02:14:35.000 Okay.

02:14:37.000 All right.

02:14:37.000 With no network to transfer critical infectious disease information without open lines of communications, thousands more fall sick.

02:14:45.000 The new, in quotes, disease becomes an unchecked pandemic.

02:14:48.000 By the time...

02:14:50.000 The right expertise is brought to bear on the problem.

02:14:53.000 It's a push for world government.

02:14:54.000 It's too late.

02:14:55.000 The disease has spread around the globe.

02:14:57.000 In a world of global trade and travel, what's traded faster and travels furthest are the microbes in every handshake.

02:15:03.000 So what is this in reference to?

02:15:07.000 Okay, it says a few miles east.

02:15:10.000 Hold on, please go back to that.

02:15:13.000 Yeah, it's just a scenario that they're painting.

02:15:17.000 So make that a little larger.

02:15:19.000 No, no, no.

02:15:19.000 Go back to it.

02:15:20.000 Just go back to where it was.

02:15:22.000 All right.

02:15:23.000 The potential pandemic in the past few decades have severely tested the world's ability to work across human borders.

02:15:28.000 Detection remains weak in many parts of the world.

02:15:30.000 The public health response has frequently been slow and fragmented.

02:15:33.000 The looming threat of infectious disease presents humanity with a new challenge to communicate and collaborate swifter and with greater efficiency than ever before.

02:15:42.000 That doesn't sound like they're trying to end the world.

02:15:43.000 Okay, well, you're just reading one of these documents.

02:15:46.000 I can pull up the articles.

02:15:47.000 I can show it to yourself.

02:15:48.000 I understand, but this is...

02:15:48.000 It's world government controlled.

02:15:50.000 They talk about a worldwide police state.

02:15:52.000 You search the term pandemic.

02:15:54.000 I'm telling you what's in these things.

02:15:56.000 Okay.

02:15:57.000 Emerging pandemics, the new century, SARS, avion flu, and swine flu.

02:16:01.000 If we don't move quickly...

02:16:03.000 Investigated systems to bring in global government.

02:16:05.000 It seems like they're trying to prevent pandemics.

02:16:07.000 If we don't move quickly, viruses will...

02:16:15.000 Yeah, which is the global government controlling all of this.

02:16:34.000 You know, all these proactive measures that we take to prevent terrorism, a lot of them create more terrorists.

02:16:38.000 So I think it's like a balance of, like, remaining a free society and dealing with a lot of these problems.

02:16:45.000 Listen, I sit here, you know, we sit here and we talk about something and whether Jamie can find it or not becomes the arbiter whether it's real.

02:16:52.000 So they found something about an AT&T lobbying, but they didn't find a thing about this.

02:16:55.000 I've got the Operation Lockstep documents where they say, we're going to bring in this global authoritarian police state.

02:17:02.000 Okay, but then you have to show us those.

02:17:04.000 Well, I mean, I'm sitting here in studio talking to you about this.

02:17:09.000 But I understand.

02:17:10.000 That's all internet.

02:17:10.000 I understand what you're saying, but we wanted to try to read it.

02:17:13.000 But you know everybody else watching this is going to go look it up.

02:17:15.000 Well, I hope they do.

02:17:16.000 They're going to go crazy.

02:17:16.000 I wish we could have found it right then, if it's real.

02:17:20.000 I know you want to show it.

02:17:21.000 But it might be an interpretation of what they're saying, like the Whitmer quote.

02:17:25.000 No, it says specifically.

02:17:26.000 The Whitmer quote is just a criticism of Trump.

02:17:29.000 She's blaming all this lockdown.

02:17:31.000 No, Whitmer was found by the Supreme Court of Michigan and by a federal court to have seized all three branches of governments and basically set up martial law.

02:17:40.000 They even used those terms.

02:17:41.000 And she was overturned.

02:17:42.000 When you say in that quote, when you say if you are sick of lockdowns and you're sick of not being able to go to church, Joe Biden should be elected.

02:17:50.000 Agreed.

02:17:50.000 That is not a huge jump from what he said.

02:17:52.000 No, it's not a huge jump.

02:17:53.000 But the problem is, the way it's being said, she was talking about how bad Trump handled the rate of infection first.

02:18:02.000 Let's expand on that.

02:18:03.000 I remember interviewing Lou Dobbs like 15 years ago, back when he was still on CNN, and we were looking at documents.

02:18:09.000 Where it said, we're going to bring in global government and the North American Union using the threat of viruses, migration flows, and economic collapse.

02:18:18.000 And they said, like a deadly flu or a deadly SARS. I'm sitting here watching this power grab, watching the UN, and big tech saying, well, you can't say...

02:18:29.000 That the UN's wrong because the UN's in charge.

02:18:32.000 Since when is the news, WHO and all these doctors, all these medical doctors that come out and say other things other than them, like how steroids cured it or how hydroxychloroquine helped it, how are they being banned?

02:18:44.000 Even if they were wrong, they should have their license removed.

02:18:47.000 That's what that's about.

02:18:49.000 It's not Google decides that if something isn't the UN, it's taken down.

02:18:52.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:18:53.000 Well, it is a problem that they're deciding which doctors to listen to and which doctors not to.

02:18:59.000 When there is some real controversy as to how to handle the virus with treatment.

02:19:05.000 Right.

02:19:05.000 What treatment is effective and what isn't effective.

02:19:08.000 Now, it turns out there's a lot of doctors that think that hydroxychloroquine isn't effective.

02:19:13.000 There's some doctors that thought it was, and they think a combination of zinc and hydroxychloroquine.

02:19:18.000 But the problem is the people that are deciding what gets taken down or not gets taken down.

02:19:24.000 That's a huge problem.

02:19:26.000 And the problem is that the doctors who go, well, we think, you know, it's like we've minimized the voices of the people that are saying one thing.

02:19:35.000 Right.

02:19:35.000 And we've elevated the voices of the people that are saying another thing.

02:19:37.000 And it's like that becomes the real issue.

02:19:40.000 Whether people like Trump, there's stuff to criticize about Trump.

02:19:43.000 We all know that. 0.85

02:19:44.000 But in their defense, they're doing it because they think that people are going to do something foolish and they're going to go out and spread the virus further because of that.

02:19:51.000 Well, it's not the media's job, though, to – this is the problem.

02:19:53.000 I think the media has taken on this really activist role where they are now – Worse.

02:19:58.000 It's not the media.

02:19:59.000 It's worse.

02:19:59.000 Social media.

02:20:00.000 Social media companies.

02:20:01.000 Social media too, yeah.

02:20:02.000 It's not even necessarily the media where you have, like, legitimate journalists that are taking on this role.

02:20:06.000 Will Trump – do you think he would do something in his second term about social media?

02:20:09.000 I think he certainly is going to do something he has to.

02:20:11.000 Why hasn't he done something already?

02:20:13.000 Because it's so complex because they'll claim it's election meddling even though they're doing that at the same time.

02:20:17.000 What we have is multinational corporations acting in tandem that are already making the nation state obsolete.

02:20:23.000 They're creating an information warfare monopoly and they're censoring people and using that power they have.

02:20:30.000 And we just sit here denying it's going on until it's too late.

02:20:34.000 I mean, it's a really serious situation.

02:20:37.000 And it is a crazy situation where all of these tech companies all lean left.

02:20:42.000 All of them.

02:20:43.000 Yeah, they do.

02:20:44.000 They lean left and they support...

02:20:46.000 There's no tech companies that are out there supporting Donald Trump.

02:20:49.000 There's no tech companies out there supporting...

02:20:50.000 What's very interesting is these tech companies are very wealthy people, right?

02:20:53.000 Right.

02:20:53.000 They're insanely wealthy.

02:20:54.000 But David Pakman had a really good point about that, that when it comes to their financial dealings, they're very conservative.

02:21:00.000 Very libertarian and conservative.

02:21:02.000 Oh, they don't pay taxes.

02:21:03.000 Right.

02:21:03.000 I mean, Google pays almost taxes.

02:21:05.000 That's what I'm telling you.

02:21:06.000 Does Apple complain about Chinese slave factories in China?

02:21:09.000 No.

02:21:09.000 It's just what I'm telling you is it's all BS. And when you study what they're doing, I can sit on my phone and pull it up.

02:21:16.000 They talk about, in lockstep, bringing in a global authoritarian system.

02:21:21.000 They talk about riots.

02:21:22.000 They talk about war.

02:21:23.000 If you can find that article, send it to Jamie.

02:21:26.000 I found something, but I'm trying to understand what it's saying, because it's speaking about years in the future as though they've already happened.

02:21:34.000 Well, we're not too far away from...

02:21:35.000 Let's see it.

02:21:36.000 Because they're painting another scenario just like they painted with that infection scenario.

02:21:41.000 Archive.org I found.

02:21:42.000 I went to the second page of this link, but this is like scenario narratives.

02:21:46.000 It says lockstep.

02:21:47.000 It talks about pandemics from 2012 and the SARS and all sorts of H1N1. So I skipped into the next page just while you guys are talking.

02:21:56.000 And this is the part that's a little strange, which is getting into what I think he is now talking about.

02:22:00.000 Where is that?

02:22:01.000 Can you highlight it?

02:22:03.000 It started here because it says something about Kenya in 2025 and people being weary of top-down authoritarianism.

02:22:08.000 Okay, by 2025, people seem to be growing weary of so much top-down control and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them.

02:22:19.000 We're good to go.

02:22:40.000 Fed up with the entrenched cronyism and corruption, even those who'd like the greater stability and predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and by the strictness of national boundaries.

02:22:54.000 The feeling lingered that sooner or later something would have inevitably upset the neat order that the world's governments had worked so hard to establish.

02:23:03.000 Okay, I never read that, but that's the other stuff.

02:23:05.000 It's in there.

02:23:06.000 It's thousands of pages, man.

02:23:08.000 It talks about global police state and worldwide riots.

02:23:11.000 I mean, we're not that far away.

02:23:12.000 It's weird the way they're writing that.

02:23:14.000 They're writing it almost like this.

02:23:16.000 I've never seen that part.

02:23:19.000 I'm just saying it says stuff like that.

02:23:21.000 Listen, look at the ideas like the EU, right?

02:23:24.000 It's a supranational financial architecture.

02:23:27.000 People are saying that borders are racist.

02:23:29.000 People are saying that the idea of America is racist.

02:23:31.000 The idea of a country or a nation state is racist.

02:23:35.000 There is this growing idea or ideology that global governance is a good thing or that nation states are exclusionary and racist.

02:23:47.000 They're perfect.

02:23:48.000 Multinational corporations are bigger and operate, in many cases, more powerfully than governments.

02:23:52.000 Correct, yeah.

02:23:53.000 And so they want control, and they say they want control, and they're going to use racial differences between two countries to play them off against each other, and they're going to use global crises to centralize global control.

02:24:03.000 And that's what they say in these white papers, is the corporations are using this for global control, and there will be rebellions against it.

02:24:10.000 That's what I read.

02:24:11.000 People have more loyalty to multinational corporations and more loyalty they have more in common with people that live in London or Davos or Switzerland than they do to their American citizens.

02:24:22.000 And that becomes the problem.

02:24:24.000 But you've got Google and Facebook executives on jumbo jets and mansions telling us we've got to lower our carbon footprint and be poor. 0.99

02:24:31.000 They're hypocrites. 0.99

02:24:32.000 It doesn't hold water. 1.00

02:24:33.000 Yeah.

02:24:34.000 How do we get out of this?

02:24:35.000 There it is.

02:24:36.000 Authoritarian capitalism.

02:24:38.000 I mean, I remember, I don't have it in front of me, but I was reading the lockstep Rockefeller documents and they predicted worldwide police state, authoritarianism, civil war.

02:24:48.000 They're predicting in 2018, it says, will Africa's embrace of authoritarian capitalism a la China continue?

02:24:58.000 And then Vietnam to require a solar panel in every home in 2022. And then in 2025...

02:25:04.000 Yeah, it's not the same documents I saw, but that's the question is...

02:25:08.000 It's weird the way they're writing this.

02:25:10.000 They're writing this as they're predicting...

02:25:12.000 Already happened.

02:25:13.000 Yeah.

02:25:14.000 Well, they're talking about it like they're seeing the future, almost like it's fiction.

02:25:18.000 But Joe, here's Trump saying...

02:25:20.000 We're not going to control the pandemic.

02:25:22.000 You don't.

02:25:23.000 You get used to it.

02:25:25.000 You get over it.

02:25:25.000 You fight it with nutraceuticals.

02:25:27.000 You fight it with therapeutics.

02:25:30.000 It's the idea that...

02:25:31.000 Bill Gates came out two weeks ago and he goes, we'll be shut down for 10 years.

02:25:34.000 Is that what he said?

02:25:35.000 He said, yeah.

02:25:36.000 He said, this goes on for 10 years until there's not one corona case.

02:25:40.000 Well, they picked the perfect problem they can never defeat.

02:25:43.000 But isn't that crazy?

02:25:44.000 You see a guy like Jamie who literally kicked it in a day.

02:25:47.000 And they're saying we're going to close down the world for 10 days.

02:25:50.000 Well, it's also like the war on terror is still going on.

02:25:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:25:54.000 They want a problem that never goes away.

02:25:55.000 Yeah, it's never going to...

02:25:56.000 I mean, the Cold War went on forever.

02:25:57.000 I mean, this is just...

02:25:58.000 They like these things.

02:25:59.000 But we've entered into three hours in here, two and a half hours in here.

02:26:02.000 We've entered into this weird spot.

02:26:04.000 We're like, okay, what could be done?

02:26:07.000 Well, you're going to drink whiskey.

02:26:08.000 Yeah.

02:26:10.000 I've already been about an election night.

02:26:11.000 I'm here.

02:26:11.000 What could be done?

02:26:13.000 Um...

02:26:14.000 What can be done?

02:26:16.000 Man, all I know is I try to tell the truth.

02:26:17.000 I make mistakes.

02:26:18.000 But I'm sitting here with these notes I've written where I read what globalists say.

02:26:23.000 I gave you that Wall Street Journal article where they go, we're impure that we can get sick.

02:26:28.000 It's time to get rid of all humans and merge with machines.

02:26:31.000 It's so beautiful.

02:26:32.000 I think, well, that's just one kook.

02:26:33.000 And then it's almost all these people. 0.75

02:26:35.000 And really, they're just trying to convince the public to all roll over and die.

02:26:39.000 But wait a minute.

02:26:39.000 Isn't that a provocative article by a journalist who's trying to paint a rosy picture of our symbiotic relationship with technology?

02:26:48.000 I mean, when someone's saying, I mean, literally saying, looking forward to the end of humanity.

02:26:53.000 It's a provocative article.

02:26:55.000 But that's the nihilistic attitude these people actually pick up.

02:26:58.000 I mean...

02:26:59.000 Yes, it is, but it's also sort of this inevitable, if you extrapolate from where we are now with technology to where we're going to be in 20, 30 years, and when you look at things like Neuralink, and you look at a lot of this technology that they're coming up with.

02:27:13.000 But we're talking about big tech censoring us. 0.99

02:27:15.000 I don't want them plugged into my goddamn brain. 0.99

02:27:17.000 Yeah, it's probably a bad idea. 1.00

02:27:19.000 It seems like a bad idea to have them invade your body.

02:27:22.000 Well, when you're talking about centralized power like that, it is a bad idea.

02:27:25.000 It's not a good idea.

02:27:26.000 It's a bad idea to give them power over speech.

02:27:28.000 All I'm saying is, Joe, and I'm glad you're here.

02:27:29.000 I'm glad you're here.

02:27:31.000 I'm very excited to be here tonight, and I really appreciate you.

02:27:33.000 We have to get people to debate the fact that there's people, engineers and technocrats, choosing their course and that the public is not involved in deciding that course.

02:27:43.000 Well, I hope people are starting to understand when you see the White House press secretary get banned from Twitter, when you see the New York Post links get banned from Twitter, I hope people are starting to understand that giving people power, giving large groups power over whether it's national discourse,

02:28:00.000 whether it's policy, any of these things, it's bad.

02:28:04.000 It's a bad idea.

02:28:05.000 It's a bad idea.

02:28:06.000 Exactly!

02:28:06.000 You don't want to give Alex Jones power.

02:28:08.000 The founding fathers, although they didn't predict They didn't predict the internet.

02:28:13.000 They did predict what happens when you give human beings ultimate power.

02:28:17.000 Right.

02:28:18.000 Power corrupts.

02:28:19.000 Absolute power corrupts.

02:28:20.000 Absolutely.

02:28:20.000 So, Joe, you just said it.

02:28:22.000 So let me ask this question.

02:28:25.000 See, you've got a huge audience.

02:28:27.000 We can really change the world right now.

02:28:28.000 No one's listening.

02:28:30.000 No, they're listening.

02:28:31.000 If you want to change the world, you go on a Melissa Milano show.

02:28:34.000 That's the show.

02:28:35.000 Dude, I only get three times as many listeners as her.

02:28:38.000 People that are zombies don't matter.

02:28:40.000 I'm sorry about what you mean.

02:28:43.000 I'm sure she won't take zombie offensive.

02:28:45.000 Did you guys hear what I said?

02:28:48.000 Listen, you can look at Tony Podesta or John Podesta and laugh at them.

02:28:53.000 They run the Democratic Party.

02:28:54.000 It came out two months ago in the New York Times bragging that they were in the meeting when they were wargaming on thousands of people listening on a telephone call.

02:29:02.000 They go, we're not going to concede, and we're going to have the country...

02:29:08.000 Break up, and we're going to have secession, and we're going to call for the UN to invade America. 0.95

02:29:13.000 How fucked up would it be if all this stuff actually comes true the way you're describing it? 0.99

02:29:18.000 If this happens, this will be fucking insane. 0.99

02:29:19.000 Can I use the bathroom? 0.98

02:29:21.000 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

02:29:21.000 But when people are talking about...

02:29:23.000 Be careful with that camera.

02:29:24.000 Don't bump that camera.

02:29:25.000 But I'm not saying it's going to happen.

02:29:27.000 I'm saying they're saying it.

02:29:29.000 Because if it doesn't happen, I'll be glad.

02:29:30.000 But they're like, oh, Jones is saying this is happening.

02:29:32.000 No, I know you will be glad.

02:29:34.000 They're literally saying this.

02:29:35.000 But if this does happen...

02:29:37.000 This podcast can be heavily criticized, right?

02:29:39.000 We're all aware of this.

02:29:41.000 We knew that coming in.

02:29:43.000 But when this goes down, if this goes down the way you're describing it, how eerie would this be?

02:29:49.000 Well, it would be very eerie.

02:29:51.000 Eerie.

02:29:51.000 It would be very scary because, let me tell you, this is what they're saying they're going to do.

02:29:55.000 Now, I hope they don't do it.

02:29:57.000 But they are saying that they're going to contest the election when they lose, and if Trump tries to declare it, big tech has implemented this AI system that's going to block hundreds of millions of Americans from being able to say Trump won election night.

02:30:13.000 So that's why election night is so spectacular.

02:30:16.000 And some people can say, well, there's never been voter fraud before, or voter fraud has been so minuscule in the past.

02:30:20.000 That is true.

02:30:21.000 However, the ability to vote by mail in advance never really existed like it exists now.

02:30:27.000 Exactly.

02:30:28.000 80 million ballots put out there as a total wild card.

02:30:32.000 So who is counting all these ballots?

02:30:35.000 It's the locals.

02:30:36.000 It's whoever grabs them.

02:30:38.000 It's whoever puts in the false names.

02:30:39.000 There's been a bunch of people arrested.

02:30:41.000 Right, but say if you're in a democratically controlled state, so who is controlling and counting those ballots?

02:30:51.000 Brian Redman.

02:30:52.000 He's a good guy.

02:30:54.000 He'll tell us the truth.

02:30:56.000 Brian, get over here real quick.

02:30:58.000 He needs to come over for two minutes.

02:31:00.000 Okay.

02:31:00.000 We need Brian.

02:31:03.000 No, I mean, seriously, I don't know what's going to happen, Joe.

02:31:06.000 I know the Democrat chief strategist says, we're going to contest the election, we're going to break the country up, like Civil War 1862, and we're going to do all this, and we're going to say that...

02:31:18.000 Go ahead.

02:31:18.000 They found water on the moon.

02:31:20.000 Oh, awesome.

02:31:25.000 They did find water on the moon.

02:31:27.000 You know, six months before they said that, Buzz Aldrin called me up.

02:31:30.000 And he said there's water on the moon?

02:31:31.000 And he goes, they're going to crash an Indian probe in there.

02:31:34.000 It's like, you know, 2007 or something.

02:31:37.000 They're going to crash an Indian probe on the moon. 0.96

02:31:39.000 I want you to know we already crashed one.

02:31:40.000 They're going to find the water.

02:31:41.000 I was like, thank you, Buzz Aldrin.

02:31:43.000 So he called you up?

02:31:45.000 Yep.

02:31:46.000 Does Buzz call you often?

02:31:48.000 No, he's called me like three times.

02:31:50.000 Are you ever shocked?

02:31:51.000 He's like, it's Alex's buzzsaw.

02:31:53.000 He actually got like 20 million views before I took it off YouTube.

02:31:56.000 He was on the show one time, and he goes, my secretary really likes you.

02:32:00.000 He goes, you're hot, you're lucky I'm doing this.

02:32:02.000 I'm like, well, yes, sir.

02:32:04.000 And he goes, there is the moon of...

02:32:07.000 Mars, that is where the real obelisk is, 2001. And the aliens created the pyramids.

02:32:13.000 And I just wanted to tell you, Alex, you gotta...

02:32:15.000 What?

02:32:16.000 He said the aliens created the pyramids?

02:32:18.000 Yeah, and there was an obelisk on Mars.

02:32:20.000 I heard that part.

02:32:21.000 That's not as shocking.

02:32:23.000 Buzz Aldrin said the aliens created the pyramids?

02:32:26.000 I'm telling you.

02:32:27.000 I was contacted by Buzz Aldrin's secretary.

02:32:31.000 Okay.

02:32:31.000 I'm picking this up.

02:32:33.000 I don't believe you are.

02:32:34.000 And so it's like, whenever this was, like 12 years ago, 10 years ago, whatever it was, like, hey, Buzz Aldrin wants to come on.

02:32:41.000 So we checked, it's Buzz Aldrin.

02:32:42.000 He wants to talk about his new book.

02:32:44.000 And once he gets on, he goes...

02:32:46.000 It is the sole moon, Choron, or whatever it's called.

02:32:50.000 Look up the moon of...

02:32:51.000 I won't have memory here, so I get this stuff wrong sometimes.

02:32:54.000 Of Mars.

02:32:54.000 He goes, that is where the true obelisk is, and that will give us the data tapes to go to the next level.

02:33:00.000 And I just wanted you to know that, because you're a good person, that the pyramids were created by aliens, and we're doing important work.

02:33:06.000 There he is.

02:33:07.000 Buzz Aldrin admits aliens built the pyramids, and Phobos monument...

02:33:11.000 Oh, the...

02:33:12.000 Yeah, he said it after he talked to me on C-SPAN, yeah.

02:33:15.000 So he said it?

02:33:16.000 He really said aliens built the pyramids?

02:33:19.000 I swear to God.

02:33:20.000 This guy really went off the reservation.

02:33:21.000 Do you think NASA is doing a better vetting process now?

02:33:25.000 Because this guy really...

02:33:25.000 Well, he's had tough times.

02:33:27.000 Well, he just endorsed Trump.

02:33:29.000 Oh, did he?

02:33:30.000 Why did he endorse Trump?

02:33:31.000 All the military endorsed Trump.

02:33:33.000 All the police unions endorsed Trump.

02:33:34.000 But listen, I'm not bragging.

02:33:36.000 I don't know why...

02:33:37.000 I thought he had one about a book he wrote. 0.84

02:33:39.000 He starts telling me about aliens, the pyramids, and the friggin'...

02:33:42.000 Let me ask you this.

02:33:43.000 What did you think about the Pentagon saying recently that they've recovered crafts that are not of this world?

02:33:48.000 I think it's probably true.

02:33:50.000 I think it's probably true as well.

02:33:51.000 I think we're like the ditch, like a movie theater.

02:33:54.000 There's stuff in the ditch. 0.96

02:33:56.000 When I talked to Commander Fravor, who is the guy who saw the Tic Tac UFO off the coast of San Diego, the way he describes it in the video footage that they got of this thing, his take on it is fucking chilling.

02:34:10.000 That thing went from 60,000 feet above Tic Tac.

02:34:14.000 Okay.

02:34:14.000 Yeah, it looks like a Tic Tac.

02:34:15.000 That's Joe's new code name, it's Tic Tac.

02:34:17.000 I thought it was a Tic-Tac UFO. No, no, no.

02:34:20.000 It's a huge problem.

02:34:21.000 No, it's just a little Tic Tac thing there, Jason.

02:34:24.000 And what did he say about it?

02:34:25.000 He said that this thing went from 60,000 feet above sea level to one inside of a second.

02:34:31.000 Wow.

02:34:31.000 He said it defied propulsion by any understanding that we have of physics.

02:34:37.000 The way it moved was insane.

02:34:39.000 It was actively blocking tracking systems, which is an act of war.

02:34:43.000 That's nothing to do.

02:34:44.000 They block all the radar.

02:34:45.000 You could listen to him on my podcast, but I would actually recommend you listen to him on Lex Friedman's podcast.

02:34:50.000 It's available on YouTube, and Lex does an amazing job of talking to him and breaking down the technical aspects.

02:34:56.000 Let's do that.

02:34:57.000 Joe, what do you think the universe is?

02:34:59.000 What do you think?

02:34:59.000 Let's talk real.

02:35:00.000 What's the secret of the universe?

02:35:02.000 Totally legit report says Buzz Aldrin saw aliens when he was up in space.

02:35:06.000 That's sarcasm.

02:35:06.000 Oh.

02:35:08.000 Joe, is that you in the photo?

02:35:10.000 I don't think that.

02:35:11.000 Somebody reached out to his people and they said that it's bogus and we don't know where it came from.

02:35:15.000 It's bogus.

02:35:16.000 We don't know where it came from.

02:35:16.000 Well, he came on my show and said that...

02:35:19.000 The pyramid thing?

02:35:20.000 The pyramid quote?

02:35:21.000 He said it's bogus?

02:35:22.000 Well, maybe they pulled him aside.

02:35:23.000 Joe, let's have fun here.

02:35:25.000 Everybody's watching.

02:35:26.000 This is an epic podcast.

02:35:27.000 It's part three.

02:35:28.000 Joe Rogan.

02:35:29.000 I want to know.

02:35:30.000 So what do you think runs the universe?

02:35:32.000 What do you think the secret is?

02:35:33.000 Who are the DMT elves?

02:35:34.000 When's the last time you took DMT? It's been a couple years.

02:35:37.000 I don't think that there is...

02:35:46.000 Yeah.

02:35:47.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 Another planet, but that would be probably the least spectacular answer, and that they could be interdimensional travelers.

02:36:06.000 Some people believe that they're time travelers.

02:36:08.000 And Jacques Vallée is the guy who, Steven Spielberg, he modeled that French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind after him.

02:36:15.000 He's a really, really interesting guy.

02:36:17.000 Well, that's what I personally believe is it's interdimensional.

02:36:20.000 It could be that.

02:36:43.000 That there are many dimensions that we don't have access to, right? 0.99

02:36:48.000 And this is the quantum physicists and all those guys that write the shit on yellow legal pads that you don't understand. 0.82

02:36:53.000 They all believe there's many, many dimensions outside of the dimensions that we're aware of. 0.97

02:36:57.000 I agree with you.

02:36:58.000 I agree with you.

02:36:59.000 I think the universe is insanely huge and they're finding life-compatible planets on a daily basis.

02:37:08.000 There's hundreds of them now.

02:37:10.000 So I agree with you.

02:37:10.000 Let me ask this question then.

02:37:11.000 What do we do about this corrupt political elite trying to make us look at them and follow them?

02:37:17.000 How do we break free of them?

02:37:18.000 Well, that's a different thing of the universe.

02:37:20.000 But my question is, like, why are they telling us now that they've acquired these ships or that they have access to these things or that they know these things are real?

02:37:29.000 You know, Bob Lazar has basically been describing exactly that and exactly the same way since 1989 when he was first...

02:37:52.000 I think?

02:38:20.000 Full space.

02:38:32.000 But they don't know how it works.

02:38:33.000 They don't know what it's doing, but they know it operates on this element.

02:38:38.000 Let's talk about this.

02:38:39.000 Hold on.

02:38:39.000 They know it operates on this element that was only theoretical until, I think it was 2013 or 2015, they used a particle collider and they detected it in an actual element 115 that it was actually real.

02:38:53.000 And that's what the superconducting supercolliders are for. 0.93

02:38:56.000 Well, I mean, they're for detecting many things, right?

02:38:58.000 Cyclotrons.

02:38:59.000 Well, these particle colliders are for detecting many different things that are theoretical, and they find these things to be true, and then it becomes, you know, a scientific record.

02:39:09.000 What I think is that we are apes.

02:39:12.000 We are these weird talking apes that are in an adolescent stage of technological evolution.

02:39:19.000 And what we might be looking at when we see these...

02:39:25.000 We might be looking at something from the future.

02:39:27.000 We might be looking at time travelers.

02:39:29.000 We might be looking at something that comes back and visits us.

02:39:32.000 Joe, I think that's a good approximation, but we're a little bit beyond just apes.

02:39:36.000 Clearly, we're from outside the planet, and there's something bigger going on.

02:39:40.000 Like, this life form's happened before.

02:39:42.000 This is a major test.

02:39:44.000 And so we can sit there and just say, oh, we're just apes.

02:39:46.000 No, I don't mean that.

02:39:47.000 What I mean by we're just apes is that in comparison to what we could be eventually through evolution...

02:39:52.000 You're saying we're in a metamorphosis...

02:39:54.000 Yeah, we're on a...

02:39:56.000 Look, we're a lot smarter than apes, right?

02:39:58.000 Than regular apes that are in... 0.97

02:40:00.000 Most of us.

02:40:00.000 In the zoo.

02:40:01.000 Or in the jungle. 1.00

02:40:02.000 Well, some of the public's dumber than apes. 1.00

02:40:03.000 Right. 0.99

02:40:04.000 I was about to say, let's not paint with a broad brush.

02:40:06.000 But we're nowhere near where our potential lies, right?

02:40:09.000 Our potential lies far, far, far in advance of what we are currently.

02:40:13.000 And I think some of this has to do with some of these symbiotic technologies that we're talking about, like Neuralink and a lot of these things that are being proposed that are eventually going to find their way into the human body and accelerate our ability.

02:40:26.000 I agree, but are they going to censor our ability?

02:40:31.000 See, because we're already growing, and all I see from big tech is censorship, so is the Neuralink going to censor what I do.

02:40:37.000 Oh, it'll plug in and make me feel great and hit my pleasure centers.

02:40:40.000 Well, when you're talking about human emotions and greed and power and all these different things, these are all biological issues that we have that the idea is will be transcended if you could somehow eliminate a lot of these.

02:40:54.000 If you believe the big tech lords aren't like us.

02:40:56.000 They're us, though.

02:40:57.000 So they're in charge of the same thing that we already are.

02:41:00.000 So to say, oh, big tech lords are going to take us away from our human problems, transcend sin, they're going to make it worse. 0.96

02:41:07.000 Okay, but do you understand that they didn't understand what technology was going to create when it created the internet?

02:41:12.000 The ability to distribute information that existed pre-1990-whatever when the internet became mainstream, it was very, very, very different than it is today.

02:41:25.000 And it's very hard to get away with the things you could get away with in the early 1980s.

02:41:29.000 What they can do now in terms of a regular person and their ability to transmit information, access information, it's multitudes and giant leaps I get it.

02:41:41.000 The technology's there.

02:41:42.000 I'm not against the technology.

02:41:44.000 It's those that reduce it to us and they control how it's deployed.

02:41:48.000 I understand.

02:41:48.000 That's the big issue.

02:41:49.000 Everything is about that.

02:41:50.000 But the thing is, what I was trying to get to is the way information has gotten out of their hands, and you can distribute it in a way that they never anticipated.

02:41:57.000 If they did anticipate it, I guarantee you they would have never let the internet be free.

02:42:00.000 No, I agree.

02:42:01.000 I used to complain.

02:42:01.000 I think that same thing is going to happen with all other technologies.

02:42:05.000 And if that's the case, technology may be our only hope.

02:42:08.000 Technology may be the only thing that saves us from all these human emotions, the need for power and greed and control.

02:42:16.000 The one thing that might save us from that is the symbiotic relationship with technology where we connect to things that will alleviate a lot of the problems of evolution.

02:42:27.000 But Joe, if that technology...

02:42:28.000 I'm not saying this is good or bad.

02:42:29.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

02:42:30.000 Can I say something?

02:42:30.000 Yeah.

02:42:31.000 You're doing really good.

02:42:32.000 This is great rants.

02:42:33.000 Best Joe Rogan I've ever seen.

02:42:35.000 I'm not being patronizing.

02:42:36.000 It's good stuff.

02:42:37.000 It's okay.

02:42:37.000 You're drunk.

02:42:38.000 No, no.

02:42:38.000 I'm saying this is powerful.

02:42:40.000 Be nice.

02:42:42.000 Be nice.

02:42:44.000 What I'm saying is there's outside groups trying to program that.

02:42:48.000 So you can't project your own goodness onto this.

02:42:51.000 I'm not saying even goodness.

02:42:53.000 I'm saying...

02:42:53.000 No, what I'm saying is you've been ranting for five minutes and I'm just...

02:42:59.000 I get what you're saying.

02:43:01.000 It's just that you're sitting there saying this will free us from our problems, but it's still humans that program the Nexus 0.7 so it could actually amplify the problems.

02:43:12.000 I'm saying we should be wary of all of it.

02:43:14.000 Oh, it certainly could.

02:43:15.000 Look, it could go sideways.

02:43:16.000 It could all go bad.

02:43:19.000 I think?

02:43:22.000 I think?

02:43:37.000 And then we'll be able to free ourselves and not hurt the Earth anymore?

02:43:40.000 Hop in that Tic Tac and fly to Alpha Centauri in the blink of an eye.

02:43:43.000 We need to...

02:43:44.000 No, I already see the transmission.

02:43:46.000 If you could have a spaceship that would allow you to go anywhere in the galaxy, would you be willing to give up any of your emotions for that?

02:43:55.000 No, I know the digital deal.

02:43:58.000 Give up your body for the silicon gods and become a god. 0.99

02:44:02.000 This is all fun and games, but like...

02:44:03.000 We're not even...

02:44:04.000 I mean, in California, we're not even allowed to go to Applebee's, so let's stop with the spaceship.

02:44:08.000 Let's just try to get... 0.99

02:44:10.000 I'm not allowed to leave my fucking house. 0.99

02:44:11.000 I want to go to the comedy store! 0.99

02:44:13.000 Yeah, I mean, we'll get a spaceship eventually.

02:44:16.000 Let's get a few rides back first.

02:44:17.000 I already got your thing.

02:44:18.000 I'm coming to election night.

02:44:19.000 You're drinking on me.

02:44:21.000 Election night!

02:44:22.000 Top ratings!

02:44:24.000 25 billion viewers!

02:44:25.000 Listen, you invited yourself to this.

02:44:26.000 I think you should settle down.

02:44:28.000 Aliens.

02:44:29.000 You told me I'm coming.

02:44:30.000 No, you invited yourself.

02:44:32.000 It's not coming.

02:44:33.000 No, I said you could come in for a little bit, but you're making it the Alex Jones show.

02:44:36.000 No, I'm not.

02:44:37.000 It's a bit of an issue.

02:44:38.000 The Alex Jones election special.

02:44:40.000 Apple juice.

02:44:40.000 It's a bit of an issue.

02:44:41.000 Settle down.

02:44:42.000 It's a bit of an issue?

02:44:42.000 It's going to be a fun experience.

02:44:44.000 It'll be a lot of fun.

02:44:45.000 No, quit being so mean.

02:44:47.000 You literally...

02:44:49.000 Am I being mean?

02:44:50.000 No, not at all. 1.00

02:44:51.000 I think Joe wants to beat my ass right now. 1.00

02:44:52.000 No, I don't. 0.99

02:44:53.000 Listen, Alex, I love you. 0.98

02:44:54.000 But what I'm saying, and I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm saying that I think when we're talking about aliens and we're talking about life forms from out of space and space travel and shit, when you see them, you see those fucking things, like the iconic aliens, they all have big heads and these little tiny muscle-less bodies. 0.98

02:45:13.000 Shaved heads. 0.95

02:45:15.000 They've all escaped all of the things that make us...

02:45:20.000 They look like what we're going to be.

02:45:21.000 Yeah, but who wants to be that?

02:45:23.000 I don't want to be that right now.

02:45:24.000 I mean, that's what I'm saying.

02:45:25.000 No, I'm with you.

02:45:26.000 I like being a person.

02:45:26.000 Right.

02:45:27.000 I think we should be humans for as long as we can.

02:45:29.000 What do you think aliens are?

02:45:34.000 There are all sorts of interdimensional forces in the universe and multidimension.

02:45:38.000 So there's like bad aliens that are trying to manipulate our development.

02:45:42.000 Gretchen Whitmer.

02:45:43.000 Because a high level...

02:45:44.000 Exactly.

02:45:45.000 A high level would not try to manipulate our development.

02:45:49.000 Right.

02:45:50.000 Okay, so Joe is like imprinting on these demons because he loves them. 0.86

02:45:54.000 He's a bad person.

02:45:55.000 No, no, seriously.

02:45:57.000 So all I'm saying is we need to build towards the next level and do amazing things.

02:46:01.000 What do you think of the fear?

02:46:02.000 And I did invite myself onto the election show.

02:46:05.000 Please, it's going to be great.

02:46:06.000 I got on my news in front of Joe.

02:46:08.000 I'll do it again right now.

02:46:09.000 I'll get on my news right now.

02:46:10.000 Stop making it about you.

02:46:11.000 No, it is about me.

02:46:13.000 I'm front of Ganesh.

02:46:14.000 You're drunk.

02:46:14.000 I want to come on.

02:46:15.000 Yes.

02:46:16.000 We're going to ban you from alcohol.

02:46:18.000 You're going to smoke weed with me.

02:46:19.000 What do you think about...

02:46:20.000 We're going to have a party.

02:46:21.000 I will definitely do that on November 3rd.

02:46:22.000 I'll be here two minutes.

02:46:22.000 What do you think about the theory that human beings are the product of accelerated evolution?

02:46:28.000 That they came down here and they genetically manipulated lower hominids and they created human beings? 0.99

02:46:33.000 Listen, I already have a genetic memory.

02:46:35.000 I already told you all this.

02:46:37.000 I mean, I already...

02:46:38.000 You have a genetic memory?

02:46:39.000 Yes, that's epigenetics.

02:46:43.000 Okay.

02:46:44.000 So I have a genetic, you have a genetic memory.

02:46:46.000 Right.

02:46:47.000 I have a genetic memory, and I have a genetic memory that we're, you know, I have a bunch of memories.

02:46:51.000 It's like you go watch Star Wars.

02:46:52.000 Like, I've done this before.

02:46:53.000 This looks totally normal.

02:46:55.000 We're in the universe.

02:46:56.000 We're in the planets.

02:46:57.000 We're here.

02:46:58.000 Our life forms have been all over the place, like little seeds.

02:47:01.000 Jump from planet to planet, like blowing to the space winds.

02:47:03.000 So yeah, we've already been here before.

02:47:05.000 Because this is one of the things that Lazar brought up that they discussed with him at Area S4. They said that they believe that human beings are the product of accelerated evolution.

02:47:14.000 And he wasn't sure if they were fucking with him. 0.93

02:47:16.000 Like when he was reading all that stuff, he's like, is this like disinformation? 0.99

02:47:19.000 No, they weren't fucking with him. 0.97

02:47:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:47:21.000 I mean, look, God doesn't know where God came from. 0.99

02:47:28.000 Whoa.

02:47:28.000 And we said that last time.

02:47:30.000 That's heavy.

02:47:30.000 And we don't know where we came from.

02:47:32.000 Right.

02:47:32.000 But we have the archetypal memories that go so far.

02:47:36.000 And then our big fear is to have an evolutionary death of the species.

02:47:40.000 It's like a line of, you know, flowers or plants or, you know, whatever we are.

02:47:46.000 And it's a whole genetic experience.

02:47:49.000 We're conscious individuals, but then we have a genetic experience that goes on forever as long as the life of the genetic experience doesn't die.

02:47:56.000 So we're always looking for eternal life.

02:47:58.000 As long as we keep having kids, they have kids, we live forever. 0.99

02:48:00.000 That's us.

02:48:02.000 We just get better.

02:48:03.000 Well, as long as the Earth doesn't experience a massive extinction event.

02:48:06.000 But that's what I'm saying.

02:48:07.000 Well, if we go interplanetary.

02:48:09.000 So the main mission is that.

02:48:10.000 November 3rd.

02:48:12.000 79 days.

02:48:13.000 79 days of chaos.

02:48:14.000 I am endorsing Joe Biden right now.

02:48:17.000 I'm voting for Kanye.

02:48:19.000 By the way, that might be a good strategy if you endorse Joe Biden right now.

02:48:22.000 I'm going to go with my history of voting for people that have been on the podcast, so I'm going to vote for Kanye.

02:48:26.000 I'm going with Joe Jorgensen because I like to back a winner.

02:48:29.000 Am I sitting in the same seat as Kanye?

02:48:30.000 Yes, you are.

02:48:32.000 Alright, I'm fulfilled.

02:48:33.000 It's the best.

02:48:34.000 Alright, but before this goes any further off the rails, I think we're good.

02:48:37.000 We've done it.

02:48:38.000 Oh, you want to end this transmission?

02:48:39.000 Do you?

02:48:40.000 I never got to all my notes. 1.00

02:48:41.000 You got more shit? 0.99

02:48:42.000 What else would you like to talk about? 1.00

02:48:43.000 I got more shit than you can fucking imagine here. 0.99

02:48:45.000 You gotta come back November 3rd. 0.99

02:48:48.000 You gotta have guys wheel in documents.

02:48:50.000 Just wheel in documents.

02:48:52.000 Joe said it.

02:48:52.000 He's like, you're the one inviting yourself November 3rd.

02:48:54.000 Oh, you're coming.

02:48:55.000 You certainly did.

02:48:56.000 I waited like...

02:48:57.000 You invited yourself.

02:48:58.000 19 months or something. 0.99

02:49:00.000 Alex, if I showed you the list of people that are trying to get on this fucking show, it would make your head spin. 0.99

02:49:04.000 I know, but I live down the street. 0.99

02:49:06.000 I understand.

02:49:06.000 I don't care.

02:49:07.000 You don't want me...

02:49:07.000 30 minutes on election night?

02:49:09.000 We're going to be fine.

02:49:10.000 We're going to be fine.

02:49:11.000 But I'm just saying...

02:49:12.000 I don't know.

02:49:12.000 I'm going to survive without it.

02:49:13.000 I'm fine. 0.88

02:49:13.000 It's very difficult for me to manage a fucking small fraction of the number of people that are trying to get on. 0.88

02:49:19.000 Well, this is an epic podcast. 0.82

02:49:21.000 We've only...

02:49:21.000 We've got to go another hour.

02:49:22.000 It is.

02:49:23.000 Oh, God. 0.92

02:49:23.000 That will be dead. 0.92

02:49:24.000 This is going to be bigger...

02:49:27.000 Then the Elon Musk.

02:49:29.000 It doesn't have to be, man.

02:49:31.000 Stop thinking like that.

02:49:32.000 I'm the second biggest podcast.

02:49:33.000 You can't be competitive.

02:49:33.000 Every listener has to spread this link right now, or I'm going to die.

02:49:37.000 Well, YouTube...

02:49:38.000 No, I wrote notes for you.

02:49:41.000 Let me read these notes to you?

02:49:42.000 Yes, please do.

02:49:43.000 Please do.

02:49:43.000 Okay.

02:49:44.000 Okay, what's important?

02:49:46.000 Major goals to accomplish.

02:49:48.000 How the president could invoke martial law.

02:49:51.000 You handed this to me.

02:49:52.000 I don't even know what he did.

02:49:52.000 It's like a magic trick.

02:49:54.000 All of a sudden, this is in front of my hands.

02:49:55.000 I don't even remember getting here.

02:49:57.000 I don't remember me having this.

02:49:58.000 These are big, important topics.

02:50:02.000 Do you drive around with this just in the car?

02:50:04.000 No, he's actually done research to prepare for this show.

02:50:08.000 Don't research shame him.

02:50:09.000 And then I was like, I'm not going to drink.

02:50:10.000 I'm going to be good.

02:50:11.000 And we're already here. 1.00

02:50:12.000 We're talking about heavy shit. 0.99

02:50:13.000 I just wish this was six days from now so I could be drunk with you. 0.99

02:50:16.000 How many hours are we into this?

02:50:17.000 We're three hours in.

02:50:18.000 We're three in.

02:50:18.000 If we don't break the last record, we're going down.

02:50:20.000 What's the last record?

02:50:21.000 No, we don't have to break records.

02:50:23.000 No, Tim Dillon, you rant while I get ready.

02:50:26.000 Give us your latest comedy.

02:50:31.000 I love Joe like it's true.

02:50:32.000 I was like, literally, he's like, Joe, can I please come under the election?

02:50:35.000 Listen, we're going to be fine.

02:50:36.000 Let's not talk about that.

02:50:37.000 And he slapped me.

02:50:38.000 We're good. 0.67

02:50:38.000 He punched me in the nose. 0.67

02:50:39.000 He goes, boom.

02:50:39.000 I didn't do that.

02:50:40.000 And I groveled the ground.

02:50:41.000 None of that happened.

02:50:42.000 But tell me, go over your notes, and Tim and I will talk.

02:50:46.000 Is this everything that you hoped it would be?

02:50:47.000 This is my version of a Make-A-Wish kid going to Disney World.

02:50:51.000 This is the greatest thing I've ever done is to sit here.

02:50:54.000 I've watched Alex since I'm 13 years old, pre-9-11 when he was ranting about the WTO, and I followed him through 9-11, through Bohemian Grove, all the big events of my childhood, and it's just as big to be here.

02:51:07.000 Can I say I'm very impressed with your knowledge?

02:51:09.000 You know a lot of this stuff.

02:51:11.000 I didn't go to college, so you have a lot of time.

02:51:14.000 You have a lot of time if you don't go to college.

02:51:16.000 I'm self-educated.

02:51:17.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot of information that you have at your disposal.

02:51:21.000 Yeah.

02:51:22.000 You got some notes?

02:51:24.000 I like how your new studio is like a colon.

02:51:27.000 Listen, this new studio came together in just a few weeks.

02:51:30.000 We really didn't know what to do.

02:51:31.000 I'm not putting it down.

02:51:32.000 I had this room.

02:51:33.000 We banged it out real quick.

02:51:34.000 But this is going to be known as the colon.

02:51:37.000 The Red Pill.

02:51:37.000 Some people call it the Red Pill.

02:51:38.000 Yeah, that's Radio Raheem.

02:51:40.000 Oh my God, this is the Red Pill.

02:51:41.000 He called it the Red Pill.

02:51:42.000 So this is a very rare studio.

02:51:43.000 You're getting a new one ready, I know.

02:51:45.000 Yeah, we're having problems finding a good location.

02:51:48.000 But yeah, we'll have a new one.

02:51:49.000 How about my house?

02:51:54.000 I got a huge area.

02:51:59.000 We're going to find a good spot.

02:52:00.000 It's amazing.

02:52:01.000 We're looking right now.

02:52:02.000 We're in the process.

02:52:03.000 All right, let's get serious.

02:52:04.000 Okay.

02:52:06.000 Oh, I covered a lot of this.

02:52:10.000 Alex, we're good, man.

02:52:12.000 We're good.

02:52:13.000 No, we have to do another two hours.

02:52:14.000 We're going to see you again in a week.

02:52:17.000 Oh, so I am on the nightliness.

02:52:20.000 Relax.

02:52:20.000 I have to beg.

02:52:23.000 How about I just beg a little bit?

02:52:24.000 Come on, man.

02:52:25.000 Is there anything else you really want to discuss?

02:52:29.000 No.

02:52:29.000 I mean, I'm glad that Jamie is better than I am at Search the Internet.

02:52:32.000 I'm not kissing his ass, but I'm really good at it. 0.98

02:52:35.000 He's better than I am, which almost no one is. 1.00

02:52:38.000 He does it with one hand.

02:52:39.000 The problem is I remember all this stuff.

02:52:41.000 Now, most of the time it's accurate.

02:52:42.000 Sometimes it's not.

02:52:43.000 But, I mean, if I'm saying something, I believe I saw it or I did it.

02:52:46.000 One thing that was in there, I didn't want to correct earlier, but the year you were talking about something, you kept saying 1963, and then they went to like 82 or whatever.

02:52:55.000 That happened in 73. That group wasn't even around yet.

02:53:00.000 Something of Rome?

02:53:01.000 Club of Rome.

02:53:02.000 Yeah, that wasn't even created until 68. So just for clarification purposes.

02:53:06.000 Okay.

02:53:07.000 Cool.

02:53:07.000 I think they had a subgroup earlier than that.

02:53:11.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

02:53:12.000 Yeah.

02:53:13.000 Well, who knows?

02:53:14.000 I mean, he has George Soros COVID. This is a compromised individual.

02:53:18.000 Google might have compromised the records.

02:53:20.000 Oh, that's another thing I want to say.

02:53:22.000 Can I tell us?

02:53:22.000 Yeah.

02:53:25.000 This is the most important thing we said tonight.

02:53:27.000 We said a lot of important things.

02:53:30.000 But both of you are not drinking.

02:53:32.000 Yes.

02:53:32.000 So you don't know.

02:53:33.000 Right.

02:53:34.000 But this is it right now.

02:53:35.000 Okay.

02:53:38.000 mRNA vaccines.

02:53:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:53:40.000 So when you think about a regular vaccine, it goes in, it's a broken bacteria, a broken virus, it's defeated, your body learns how to kick its ass. 1.00

02:53:49.000 It's like a dummy. 1.00

02:53:50.000 It's like having an attack dog training on a dummy.

02:53:52.000 Right.

02:53:52.000 The T-lymphocyte, white blood cell, it's like a big badass Mike Tyson, it learns how to defeat it.

02:53:59.000 mRNA vaccines go into your cells as a virus.

02:54:03.000 They're viruses.

02:54:04.000 So it's a virus they inject you with that reprograms your cell to then have a certain response to things and release proteins, which is what cancer does.

02:54:14.000 And so they admit on the news that 100% of people that take these are getting sick, 20% are going to the hospital.

02:54:22.000 And so, they also have vaccines that are called behavior modification vaccines.

02:54:26.000 You can type it in.

02:54:27.000 Okay, but let me pause right there.

02:54:30.000 mRNA vaccines, you said 100% of them get sick and 20% of them go to the hospital.

02:54:36.000 They had two studies.

02:54:38.000 In one study, 100% got sick, 20% went to the hospital.

02:54:41.000 In another study, 80% got sick, and of those, 20% went to the hospital.

02:54:44.000 That's CBS News.

02:54:47.000 Jamie's going to find that right now.

02:54:48.000 You can type in Bill Gates grilled over vaccine dangers.

02:54:52.000 You'll have CBS News reporting it.

02:54:53.000 But the point is, they admit a bunch of vaccine deaths have happened now from the test.

02:54:58.000 But what was I getting to you before that?

02:54:59.000 You were just talking about mRNA vaccines.

02:55:01.000 Oh, behavioral modification.

02:55:03.000 Yeah, so type in vaccine to cure heroin addiction.

02:55:08.000 We're going to get to that, but before we get to that, we've got to Google the stats on mRNA vaccines because this is going to be highly contested, so we have to find out.

02:55:16.000 Well, no, I'm not going to share the clip.

02:55:18.000 Bill Gates.

02:55:19.000 But we just Googled the stats on MRNA patients in trial.

02:55:27.000 I think they don't even have the stats on that.

02:55:29.000 So how do you know it?

02:55:30.000 Bill Gates was on CBS News.

02:55:32.000 And he said 80% of the people get sick?

02:55:34.000 Yeah.

02:55:35.000 And 20% of them go to the hospital?

02:55:37.000 No, it was two vaccines.

02:55:39.000 They said one vaccine 100% got sick.

02:55:43.000 And a certain percent went to the hospital.

02:55:44.000 The other 80% got sick and 20% of those went to the hospital.

02:55:48.000 And sometimes that does happen even with the flu vaccine, right?

02:55:50.000 Like sometimes people get a little sick.

02:55:51.000 I swear to God, you type in Bill Gates grilled by CBS. I'll bring it up.

02:55:56.000 Right.

02:55:57.000 Certain vaccines do get people a little bit sick, right?

02:55:59.000 Well, we had that conversation about the whole thing in India.

02:56:01.000 You know, he introduced a lot of vaccines in India.

02:56:03.000 There was some negative reactions to them.

02:56:05.000 I mean, that's what happens.

02:56:07.000 It's just, you know, a lot of people...

02:56:09.000 Joe, I sent you the article.

02:56:12.000 At mRNA vaccines.

02:56:13.000 I sent you the article about AP, about the majority of new polio cases are the Bill Gates vaccine.

02:56:24.000 We'll get to that, too.

02:56:25.000 Let me see if Jamie can find this mRNA thing.

02:56:31.000 You know, you don't have a Morton's next door here.

02:56:33.000 M-R-N-A. I mean, I don't know how to look it up, but I'm like...

02:56:37.000 Are you going to steak, or are you going to go barbecue?

02:56:39.000 I'm just finding lots of barbecues.

02:56:40.000 No steaks?

02:56:41.000 Oh, yeah, I'll get a steak.

02:56:43.000 He's hammered.

02:56:45.000 He's making a point about vaccines, and now we're at steak.

02:56:47.000 I have not hammered at all.

02:56:49.000 I've been drinking orange juice.

02:56:51.000 You polished off a half a bottle of orange juice.

02:56:55.000 Joe, I'm just telling you to have fun.

02:56:57.000 I'm happy you're here.

02:56:59.000 Legitimately.

02:57:01.000 So, if you can't find that...

02:57:04.000 The behavioral modification vaccine.

02:57:06.000 What is it you want to find?

02:57:07.000 Bill Gates polio vaccine.

02:57:10.000 Causes of polio.

02:57:12.000 AP. AP. AP.com.

02:57:16.000 The headline, the exact headline is...

02:57:19.000 Why does everybody hate Bill Gates?

02:57:20.000 What is going on?

02:57:21.000 Because he's so sexy.

02:57:22.000 I don't think people hate him.

02:57:27.000 No, it was like...

02:57:30.000 AP. Bill Gates did not say 700,000 people have negative side effects.

02:57:37.000 He did say that!

02:57:38.000 My God, he said it on NBC News.

02:57:42.000 Bill Gates did not say 700,000 people have negative side effects from a coronavirus vaccine.

02:57:46.000 I have the video of that.

02:57:47.000 Okay, but pull up AP Bill Gates polio vaccine.

02:57:52.000 But that's a coronavirus.

02:57:53.000 He said polio vaccine.

02:57:56.000 Alright, now I'm pissed.

02:57:57.000 I'm going to tell you the headline.

02:57:58.000 It was...

02:58:00.000 Let's see if there's a polio article.

02:58:01.000 It was UN. UN vaccine causes polio.

02:58:09.000 UN vaccine causes polio.

02:58:11.000 Okay.

02:58:13.000 UN vaccine causes polio. 1.00

02:58:15.000 Google is not going to show you shit. 1.00

02:58:18.000 Google is compromised. 1.00

02:58:19.000 Can you just ask Jesus, please?

02:58:21.000 UN says new polio outbreak in Sudan was caused by oral vaccine.

02:58:26.000 Yeah.

02:58:27.000 Whoa.

02:58:28.000 It's not good.

02:58:29.000 New polio outbreak in Sudan is caused by oral vaccine.

02:58:34.000 Look at that kid's face.

02:58:36.000 Oh my god, is that a terrifying image?

02:58:38.000 The image of them distributing that.

02:58:40.000 Look at that poor kid's face.

02:58:42.000 Imagine that kid getting polio from that vaccine.

02:58:45.000 He looks so terrified.

02:58:47.000 Oh my God.

02:58:48.000 Yeah, I mean, that's tragic.

02:58:51.000 Then a bunch of them died, but it's just me, it's just Alex Jones.

02:58:55.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:58:55.000 Back up, back up, back up, back up.

02:58:58.000 What does it say up there?

02:59:00.000 World Health Organization says a new polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to an ongoing vaccine-sparked epidemic in Chad.

02:59:07.000 A week after the UN... Vaccine sparked epidemic.

02:59:11.000 Health agency declared the African continent free of the wild polio vaccine.

02:59:15.000 World Health Organization said it found 11 additional vaccine-derived polio cases in Sudan and that the virus had been identified in environmental samples.

02:59:25.000 There are typically many more unreported cases for every confirmed polio patient.

02:59:31.000 The highly infectious disease can spread quickly in contaminated water and most often strikes children under five. 1.00

02:59:38.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:59:39.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

02:59:40.000 In rare instances, the live polio virus in the oral vaccine can mutate in a form capable of sparking new outbreaks.

02:59:49.000 So let me tell you a story.

02:59:50.000 My grandmother died three years ago at 92. Incredible woman. 1.00

02:59:55.000 That's fucking terrifying. 0.99

02:59:55.000 She was told by her doctor in 1954, when she got the second polio shot, they said, sorry, it was live. 0.99

03:00:03.000 It paralyzed her.

03:00:04.000 She was on crutches the rest of her life.

03:00:06.000 They told her it did to her.

03:00:08.000 Jesus Christ.

03:00:09.000 So see, I just told you that.

03:00:11.000 Yeah, it's true.

03:00:12.000 And that's a whitewash what AP's doing.

03:00:14.000 I would imagine.

03:00:15.000 So, I'm telling you, I make mistakes because I can't remember all this stuff.

03:00:19.000 I understand.

03:00:20.000 You remember a lot.

03:00:21.000 But I'm not trying to lie.

03:00:24.000 The last thing I want to say is this.

03:00:27.000 I'd like to retire the next year.

03:00:28.000 I'd like to finish up my work, clean up mistakes I made, talk about other stuff, because I'm in a dot of a heart attack or going crazy.

03:00:35.000 I do this 18 hours a day.

03:00:37.000 I'd like to get you in shape.

03:00:39.000 I'm totally stressed out, Joe.

03:00:40.000 I'm dying.

03:00:40.000 I know you are.

03:00:41.000 I'm dying.

03:00:41.000 I literally do this stuff constantly.

03:00:43.000 I read thousands of articles a day.

03:00:45.000 I know you do.

03:00:45.000 If I text you at 3 o'clock in the morning, you respond right back.

03:00:48.000 You're wide awake.

03:00:49.000 I'm not a victim.

03:00:50.000 I'm just telling you, I'm dying.

03:00:51.000 I understand.

03:00:51.000 So I can't do this much longer, and I want everybody to know, I love my crew, but I told them I can't keep running this operation.

03:00:58.000 I just want to tell the truth, and I want to get out in the next year.

03:01:00.000 It doesn't mean I won't go on your show once a year and write a book or something, but I'm dying.

03:01:03.000 I want you to get healthy.

03:01:05.000 I need to get healthy.

03:01:05.000 I try to get healthy.

03:01:06.000 Why don't you hire a trainer and hire a dietician? 1.00

03:01:09.000 Thank you.

03:01:10.000 I tried.

03:01:11.000 Because I know you got off the booze for quite a while, and we were talking, and you said you felt great.

03:01:15.000 I did feel great.

03:01:16.000 I lost like 40 pounds.

03:01:17.000 How long did you get off the booze for?

03:01:18.000 Four months, no alcohol, about eight months, and barely any, and like the last three or four hours right back.

03:01:23.000 But you were talking to me about Adderall, too. 0.99

03:01:25.000 I want you to talk about that, because that's a good thing for people to hear, the problems that you had with Adderall, because that shit scares the fuck out of me. 0.98

03:01:33.000 Well, I'm not going to get into any of that type of stuff. 0.97

03:01:35.000 The point is that the things that doctors push, the things that go on...

03:01:39.000 The whole country's drugged up on a bunch of stuff.

03:01:41.000 Yeah.

03:01:42.000 And it's not good.

03:01:44.000 But I'm not.

03:01:45.000 I do caffeine and alcohol.

03:01:46.000 That's it.

03:01:47.000 And it's all very, very destructive.

03:01:50.000 And, you know, it gets to the point where, like, you're exhausted unless you drink.

03:01:54.000 And it's not a good thing.

03:01:56.000 That's why I'm glad you sober in October.

03:01:58.000 Last October, I was sober.

03:02:00.000 Yeah.

03:02:01.000 Do you think you could just kick it totally? 0.84

03:02:05.000 I mean, you kicked it for four months? 0.95

03:02:07.000 Do you think it would be good to kick it totally?

03:02:08.000 If I wasn't doing a show every day and having to read, I mean, I'm not exaggerating.

03:02:12.000 I read 50 articles.

03:02:15.000 I'd probably scan a 500. I mean, I look at so much stuff that it's enslaving me.

03:02:21.000 Like, I just want to...

03:02:23.000 I don't want to be around it anymore.

03:02:25.000 It's not like I'm scared of it.

03:02:26.000 I want to be something else.

03:02:28.000 It has negative consequences on your health.

03:02:31.000 Yeah, so for me, I just want to get away from all of it.

03:02:35.000 What do you want to do?

03:02:38.000 I'd love to go hunting, fishing, and hiking, and oil painting, and doing sculpture.

03:02:43.000 I love metal sculpture.

03:02:45.000 That's a beautiful chimpanzee skull right there.

03:02:47.000 I mean, I've done this 26, 27 years, and when you've done it that long, you want to stay in the fight, but at the same time, you want to not do it anymore.

03:02:55.000 And that's the thing about people, the Democrats suing me and attacking me, Before Trump even got elected, I was already telling people, hey, I'm going to shut this company down.

03:03:03.000 I can't fund all of you.

03:03:05.000 I can't do this anymore.

03:03:06.000 Them attacking me made me keep fighting.

03:03:09.000 Did you think that if you were healthier, if you maybe just did less, you could be all right with it?

03:03:22.000 I didn't do that as a stunt.

03:03:23.000 I'm being quite honest with you.

03:03:25.000 I'm a smart.

03:03:26.000 I'm a smart.

03:03:26.000 I think I'm going to die of a heart attack at like 50-something.

03:03:29.000 I'm 47 now.

03:03:30.000 And I just have to, like, there's no way to do this full-time.

03:03:35.000 Either you do it or you turn loose.

03:03:37.000 And I'd like to just for a few years just disappear. 0.99

03:03:40.000 So you think that the amount of shit that's out there and when... 0.99

03:03:44.000 And this is a problem with conspiracies, right? 0.99

03:03:46.000 Because you keep finding more and more and more that are provable.

03:03:49.000 And you start going crazy.

03:03:51.000 Because you start really...

03:03:53.000 Exactly.

03:03:54.000 You can't sleep.

03:03:54.000 And you lose who you...

03:03:55.000 Exactly.

03:03:56.000 I don't like the globalists.

03:03:58.000 I'm not giving in to them.

03:03:59.000 I'm giving in to my own body.

03:04:00.000 I understand.

03:04:01.000 Their attacks keep me fighting them.

03:04:04.000 They keep thinking, oh, let's mess with him more.

03:04:06.000 He'll give up.

03:04:06.000 That makes me attack more.

03:04:09.000 I'm trying to get him to top attacking me.

03:04:10.000 It's not some Machiavellian thing I'm saying.

03:04:12.000 I don't want to look at the news.

03:04:16.000 Maybe if he just took some time off and just got healthy.

03:04:20.000 Maybe that's what you need.

03:04:22.000 Maybe you just need an extended vacation.

03:04:24.000 You're your own boss, right?

03:04:26.000 You could do that.

03:04:27.000 Do you ever think you maybe shrink the operation down a little bit and then you could kind of do what you want, how you want instead of just being a 24-hour day Yeah.

03:04:49.000 Yeah.

03:04:51.000 Yeah.

03:04:58.000 I'm not Arnold Schwarzenegger, but my jaws are.

03:05:01.000 They're like a chipmunk.

03:05:04.000 Psychologically, I'm trying to defeat all this.

03:05:07.000 At a certain point, I can't do it all.

03:05:09.000 So I don't feel sorry for myself.

03:05:11.000 You've earned it.

03:05:12.000 You've earned some time off.

03:05:13.000 Yeah, why don't you just take some months off? 0.98

03:05:15.000 Just mark an extended hiatus whenever you feel like you can get away and just decide you're going to take three months off, put the fucking cell phone down, eat healthy, exercise. 0.98

03:05:27.000 You could hire a trainer. 0.98

03:05:30.000 Not a bad idea.

03:05:31.000 There's nothing I want to do more than that.

03:05:33.000 Because, you know, when I'm doing this Sober October thing, and when I've done it in the past, one of the things that we've done is these fitness challenges.

03:05:41.000 You don't even realize what you can do until you're forced to do something.

03:05:45.000 If you force yourself, like, say, hey, for the month of...

03:05:49.000 January.

03:05:50.000 I'm not going to drink and I'm going to exercise every day and I'm going to put it up on my website and let everybody know what I'm doing and just force yourself to try to get healthy.

03:06:02.000 Only eat healthy food and maybe get a dietician, maybe get a trainer. 0.98

03:06:07.000 Not even maybe.

03:06:08.000 Get a dietician.

03:06:09.000 Get a trainer.

03:06:10.000 Get someone who makes you meal preps for you.

03:06:13.000 Gives you healthy food to eat and this is all you're going to eat. 0.99

03:06:16.000 No processed bullshit. 0.97

03:06:18.000 Just healthy food. 0.99

03:06:19.000 Wouldn't be a bad idea.

03:06:21.000 Just take a whole month and do nothing but that. 0.99

03:06:23.000 Just leave the fucking news alone. 0.99

03:06:24.000 Let this crazy world sort itself out. 0.99

03:06:27.000 No, I agree because now I look at news and it's just like, you used to have like, oh, I got them right here.

03:06:32.000 Now I'm almost like, oh my God.

03:06:35.000 Yeah, because you're probably overrun.

03:06:37.000 You know, you're probably taxed out.

03:06:39.000 Your body's probably like barely hanging in there.

03:06:42.000 I mean, if you're boozing a lot and you're not getting sleep and you're grinding your teeth, none of these are good signs.

03:06:50.000 I've been honest about it with the listeners, but at the end of the day, this is fundamental.

03:06:54.000 This is an anti-human movement.

03:06:56.000 It's a globalist movement.

03:06:58.000 And I get people that are doing it are sociopaths that have created cosmology to explain why they're doing all these evil things.

03:07:04.000 I feel like it's such an important mission that it should be exposed.

03:07:09.000 Joe, I'm just glad you moved to Austin.

03:07:11.000 I'm glad that Tim's here.

03:07:13.000 Tim's moving.

03:07:13.000 He just told me.

03:07:15.000 I gotta save LA first, and then I want to go work with Bill and Melinda Gates for a while, and then I will come to Austin.

03:07:21.000 You can't save LA. I know.

03:07:23.000 I know.

03:07:23.000 We'll see.

03:07:25.000 November 3rd.

03:07:26.000 So, Joe, what is your prediction?

03:07:28.000 Who wins?

03:07:29.000 Who wins in six days?

03:07:30.000 I'm not smart enough to make the prediction, but I do think...

03:07:33.000 Trump's gonna win.

03:07:33.000 I think it's gonna be chaos either way.

03:07:36.000 It's gonna be chaos.

03:07:37.000 I think if Trump...

03:07:37.000 I've never, ever in my life felt this country more divided.

03:07:42.000 It feels more divided now than I've ever felt before, where the possibility of a civil war doesn't seem outside the realm of possibilities.

03:07:51.000 It doesn't seem like something ridiculous.

03:07:53.000 If they said it in the past, someone said, oh, this country is on the brink of a civil war 10 years ago. 1.00

03:07:59.000 I'd be like, listen to this crazy fuck. 1.00

03:08:01.000 But you say it now, and I go, I could see it. 1.00

03:08:05.000 Yeah, Tim, why are you not moving to Texas?

03:08:07.000 Well, I might eventually.

03:08:09.000 He's moving to Texas.

03:08:09.000 I might eventually.

03:08:10.000 I don't know.

03:08:10.000 We're going to see.

03:08:11.000 I've got to open a comedy club here.

03:08:12.000 Joe convinced me that Joe told me to move to L.A. a year ago.

03:08:15.000 And then I moved and it just destroyed.

03:08:17.000 Wow!

03:08:17.000 The pandemic!

03:08:18.000 If he told me to move here, I might move here.

03:08:20.000 We're going to start a comedy club out here.

03:08:21.000 Yeah.

03:08:22.000 We're going to set this place up right.

03:08:24.000 Well, thank you for having me.

03:08:25.000 My pleasure.

03:08:26.000 I appreciate it.

03:08:26.000 I appreciate you being here.

03:08:27.000 It was everything I hoped you would be.

03:08:29.000 This was a great one, Alex.

03:08:30.000 This is really good.

03:08:31.000 I think people got to see a side of you that they maybe even didn't see in the other two podcasts.

03:08:36.000 I think you did a great account of yourself.

03:08:40.000 Really?

03:08:40.000 I think so?

03:08:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:08:41.000 A lot of the shit that you brought up today was... 0.99

03:08:43.000 I mean, you were pulling shit off the top of your head. 1.00

03:08:47.000 A lot of it was accurate. 0.99

03:08:49.000 A good, solid percentage.

03:08:51.000 I'm not trying to bullshit. 0.98

03:08:52.000 No, you're not trying to bullshit. 0.98

03:08:53.000 No, I know you're not. 0.97

03:08:54.000 This is what I've always told people about you.

03:08:56.000 And again, I think that we're at a critical time where we've got to rethink all these people that are calling for people to be censored and calling for people to be deplatformed.

03:09:07.000 I think you've got to rethink this. 0.98

03:09:09.000 I think everybody has to rethink this because you might be looking back on this 10 years from now and going, oh my god, what the fuck did I support?

03:09:15.000 I agree with you, but you're being nice to the censors. 0.99

03:09:19.000 They're tyrants.

03:09:20.000 We should hear everybody's views.

03:09:22.000 I think there's a lot of people in this machine and a lot of these people, they're not tyrants.

03:09:27.000 They think they're doing good.

03:09:29.000 They really do. 0.93

03:09:30.000 I think there's a lot of people that are out there calling for people to be deplatformed, calling for people to be censored because maybe they have children and they see their children being indoctrinated into QAnon and all this kind of ridiculous thinking and maybe they think that the way to fight some of this shit is to just take that stuff offline. 0.79

03:09:49.000 So the kids have no access to it.

03:09:51.000 That only makes their children want it more.

03:09:52.000 Well, not only that, it makes the people that believe that there's a conspiracy to silence the truth, it makes them even more fervent in their beliefs.

03:10:00.000 They start believing it even more rabidly.

03:10:03.000 And not only that, it creates echo chambers.

03:10:07.000 And let's end this positive.

03:10:09.000 You are happy you moved to Texas. 0.99

03:10:10.000 I fucking love it here. 0.99

03:10:11.000 I love the people. 0.97

03:10:12.000 I love the town.

03:10:14.000 I love everything about it.

03:10:16.000 I do.

03:10:16.000 But that's the good news.

03:10:18.000 And Tim Dillon, you come here, lower taxes, good people.

03:10:22.000 We want all the people from other parts of the country.

03:10:24.000 Great food.

03:10:25.000 Good food.

03:10:26.000 Food here is amazing.

03:10:27.000 Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff here.

03:10:28.000 And the kids here are into QAnon, which I think that's good.

03:10:31.000 All of them.

03:10:31.000 I think the children should be into QAnon.

03:10:32.000 Well, they get tattooed when they're in the fifth grade.

03:10:34.000 Listen, I love you, Alex Jones.

03:10:36.000 Thanks for being here.

03:10:37.000 I love you, Tim Dillon.

03:10:38.000 Thank you for having me.

03:10:39.000 Thank you for being here.

03:10:39.000 Thank you, guys.

03:10:40.000 We did it.

03:10:41.000 We did it.

03:10:42.000 All right.

03:10:43.000 We did three and a half hours?

03:10:45.000 Something like that, yes.

03:10:47.000 To infinity and beyond.

03:10:49.000 Band.video.

03:10:50.000 Don't visit it.

03:10:51.000 Band.video.

03:10:52.000 Bye, everybody.

03:10:52.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 27, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon

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