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00:01:46.000Can I tell you my theory about why it's better than beating off?
00:01:49.000Because I think that uh over the course of evolution i think if at first beating off tricked your body into thinking you'd fucked like if you beat off your body got the same satisfied feeling you get when you fucked right and then body started figuring out oh wait a minute this tricked me we're not really reproducing and so then it makes it so when you jerk off it feels great but it doesn't feel as good as it's not the same you don't get that same feeling of like yeah i just had sex Well,
00:02:17.000you also, you know, I do a whole bit about it, how you can feel your hand.
00:02:41.000Well, it's funny when you're coming inside a fleshlight, and guys, I'm sorry to get dirty, but when you're coming inside a fleshlight and you're pushing forward into the fleshlight and spraying jizz into it, your body thinks it's getting something pregnant.
00:04:07.000However, people have been taking these plant compounds, they've been taking these You know, these different extracts from plants for a long time.
00:04:17.000I mean, there's like a recorded use of like velvet bean for thousands of years people have been using it.
00:04:23.000I don't know if it can have adverse effect on anything because I'm not a fucking scientist.
00:04:28.000But I've looked at it and it's worth it to me to take a chance.
00:04:32.000I've looked at the data and I know how to use some of the things like choline on Alzheimer's patients and Man, when I take it, I feel good.
00:04:41.000It gives me a nice little bump or something.
00:04:45.000And, you know, a lot of people say it doesn't do shit for them.
00:04:48.000And other people have even said that it makes them sick.
00:05:35.000Pharmaceutical companies, when they release products, they know, oh yeah, there's going to be like 600 people who get seriously fucked up from this shit.
00:05:44.000Because that's why they have to run that stuff in the commercials.
00:05:46.000In the pharmaceutical commercials, you know.
00:05:48.000Oh, when they say may cause blindness.
00:05:53.000Can you imagine releasing something like that into the world and knowing, oh yeah, this is going to kill some people.
00:05:58.000So some people, yeah, that's an interesting point because it's like everything is, no one is exactly like someone else as far as how their body processes things.
00:06:08.000We all know people who literally can't drink alcohol for whatever reason.
00:06:12.000Their body just doesn't process it right and they go fucking off the wires, right?
00:06:16.000And then we know you or I who can have a couple beers.
00:09:45.000Go buy the shit and try it out yourself.
00:09:47.000Or try one or two of them out yourself.
00:09:49.000Some of them you're not going to like and some of them you might like.
00:09:52.000I think it's a very interesting sort of pursuit.
00:09:57.000The pursuit of enhancing mental function through nutrients.
00:10:01.000But I'm a big believer in vitamins and minerals, and I think it's enhanced my body, and I'm very much in tune with my body because I eat well and I exercise, and I think it's very important that you do that.
00:10:13.000You've got to take care of the fucking machine that carries you around.
00:10:16.000So for me, I'm pretty tuned in to what my body feels like on a regular basis.
00:10:21.000And because of that, I can get a good feel of when something's helping me for real or something's a placebo effect.
00:10:37.000I wouldn't mind, really, placebos all day if they just rock my world.
00:10:42.000You know, I mean, when you think about what the human body is really capable of, and I'm not endorsing lying to people, but I'm saying, I mean, think about what the effect of placebo is.
00:10:52.000For a lot of people, it's really fucking dramatic, man.
00:10:54.000They act as if they've gotten medicine.
00:10:56.000You know, cancer has been, it's never been cured, but tumors have shrunk.
00:11:12.000Well, I know that there have been some substantial medical improvements because of the placebo effect, and it's a fascinating effect.
00:11:20.000I wish someone could just placebo me all day.
00:11:22.000I wish she could just convince me that I could go to some lady and she wipes me with a chicken's foot and your liver heals up.
00:11:30.000I wish it was possible to just trigger placebos left and right.
00:11:34.000Well, somebody emailed me something else you could maybe check out, Brian, is that they think that there's natural cannabinoids in the brain and they think it's somehow associated with that.
00:11:44.000The brain just releases these cannabinoids and it gives you a...
00:11:48.000I'm just seeing assholes with tumors on them.
00:11:52.000I'll take the word butthole out of the Google search.
00:11:56.000He adds butthole to every Google search he does.
00:14:56.000And I thought, well, fuck man, that's funny.
00:14:58.000I wonder what that would look like if they were reacting to a Red Lobster commercial.
00:15:02.000So I just put a Red Lobster commercial on top of them freaking out over a scary movie and it came out kind of funny, weird.
00:15:09.000And so I put that up on my YouTube page and someone left a comment like, well, this is the only one of your videos that didn't make me laugh.
00:15:50.000I mean, you can create a community online with a message board or something like that, with Twitter lists and shit like that, like who you follow, who you block.
00:15:57.000But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, the boundaries between people are kind of separated.
00:16:27.000Yeah, I mean, you see those over and over again, and YouTube doesn't block them, and it is a fascinating sociological experiment.
00:16:35.000Thousands of years from now, if data still exists, if you can still read off of our hard drives, probably you won't be able to, but whoever finds us in our archaeological future the way we have found ancient Sumer or ancient Rome or any civilization that we've tried to piece together from information from the past, they're going to look at YouTube comments.
00:16:56.000And they're going to be like, look at these crazy assholes.
00:19:35.000It's such a bully move where you're taking a sentence, a little tiny segment of what someone said, not in the greater context of several paragraphs of writing, but just one little sentence and then they'll respond to it with a river of shit.
00:19:49.000And you go back and forth and back and forth.
00:21:18.000No, but the thing when you're saying Buddha had a shitty life, there's the story of Buddha, and Buddha started off as a very wealthy prince, and there was a problem.
00:23:45.000In other words, you're suffering when you think things don't change.
00:23:48.000Oh, so what I did is basically the exact same thing that I criticize people doing on the message boards, where they take one line and don't even read the rest of it.
00:23:56.000I didn't even listen to your whole sentence.
00:23:58.000I took one line and I just attacked it.
00:24:00.000I don't really mean any of the things I say.
00:24:16.000A golden Buddha in the lotus position, and then there was like infinite numbers of them around them, like fractals of golden Buddhas in the lotus position.
00:24:25.000That was one of the craziest experiences of my life.
00:24:27.000It's a cool religion, man, because it's a viral religion, which is very different from a lot of other world religions like Christianity and Islam that kind of come into a place and try to change what's happening in the place to conform to Christianity.
00:24:43.000Buddhism goes into a place And Like Analyzes whatever the belief system is In that place And then incorporates that Into the philosophy of Buddhism So you get these Vastly different forms of Buddhism All over the planet Like In Like Tibetan If you look at Zen Buddhism And then you look at Tibetan Buddhism They couldn't be more different Zen Buddhism is very austere.
00:25:05.000If you look at a Zen monastery, the walls, I've never been at one, but the walls are made of rice paper.
00:25:12.000It's like these guys fucking sitting there meditating, spending their whole life meditating.
00:25:18.000Then you look at Tibetan Buddhism, and it's like golden Buddhas and prayer wheels and prayer flags, and it's like this bright, beautiful thing.
00:25:27.000And the reason is when When Buddhism came to Tibet, there was a religion called Bon.
00:25:32.000B-O-N. That was the original religion.
00:25:34.000And it just took that religion and transformed it so it embodied the noble truths of Buddhism.
00:26:06.000You know, I've always wondered what the boundaries of meditation are because I don't really have the time to be sitting around all day meditating.
00:26:14.000But I always feel like anything, like even the isolation tank, which is very much like a symptom or rather a method of meditation, Meditation.
00:26:26.000The isolation tank, the more you do it, the better you get at it.
00:26:30.000The more relaxed you get when you're inside, the easier it is for you to let go, the easier it is for you to get to that really crazy deep state.
00:26:39.000So I would assume that with meditation, just like with anything, with music or martial arts, the more time you spend at it, the better you get at it.
00:26:46.000I would wonder, what the fuck can you do with your brain if you have like 10, 12 hours a day?
00:26:52.000Because you know, Eddie Bravo has this friend of his.
00:27:01.000Like a serious devotee of kundalini yoga.
00:27:04.000And this lady did kundalini yoga all fucking day.
00:27:08.000And what she said was that it was all about stimulating...
00:27:13.000Particular areas of your brain that can produce psychedelic chemicals and that what you're trying to do is like open up your chakras and you can tune in to higher frequencies of consciousness and that these people say that at the highest levels that these these people are capable of putting themselves into a psychedelic state absolutely naturally.
00:27:36.000So like what you would have to do by taking mushrooms or taking peyote or whatever, they can just meditate and get there and they travel in their mind to like distinct different places.
00:27:46.000And the idea is that what they're doing is they're literally changing the form of their mind.
00:27:52.000If you look at the mind of a person who meditates, you know, a Buddhist monk, you know, a person who meditates 10-12 hours a day.
00:28:00.000The way their brain works is different.
00:28:03.000The size of different areas of the brain is different.
00:28:07.000When they look at the activity in the mind, it's different than a regular person's brain.
00:28:17.000Like, a higher plane of consciousness, if that is what they're doing, that they're able to do, just like, I mean, what we see in marathon running, just like what we see in everything, you know, like, could you run a marathon?
00:29:29.000But I would imagine that if you really devote yourself to really just concentrating on achieving the possibilities of these different states of consciousness, I think that you'd be able to get high.
00:29:43.000I did this thing, because I studied religion and psychology in school.
00:29:55.000I got to do an internship at a Zen temple.
00:29:57.000And part of the internship is you do this thing called a sasheen, which is where you sit for like three days straight.
00:30:04.000Just staring at this wall for three days straight in the lotus position.
00:30:16.000I made it through, you sleep like four hours and the next day you wake up and immediately you eat and then you go right back into meditating.
00:30:23.000And so I made it, I don't know, I made it a pathetically small length of time because it was snowing outside and I started thinking about how good a beer would be.
00:30:32.000Something about the snow being like, man, I love to drink a beer.
00:30:36.000But during the time that I was staring at the wall, I don't know, like six hours in or some certain amount of time in, they start doing this thing called the Heart Sutra.
00:30:45.000They start chanting this thing called the Heart Sutra.
00:30:48.000And I don't remember the exact way it goes, but it's something like, no mind, no body, no life, no death, no beginning, no...
00:34:43.000Maybe we should play it again because it seemed to me that it was like a couple different sounds that are They're singing the same thing They're singing it really fast.
00:35:11.000But there's like a hum to it that makes you think that there might be something going on in the background, but it's not.
00:35:17.000Every now and then there's like a little intersection.
00:37:49.000Test it like you would be, if you were buying gold, like you would weigh and measure and test gold because you need to logically understand what this is.
00:37:58.000You have to logically, it has to logically make sense to you.
00:38:16.000Because the prophet said he'll either be the Tathagad of the Wheel-Turner, like this great prophet that he was, or he's going to be this conqueror.
00:39:16.000So these pleasures I'm experiencing, I would rather figure out a way to have lasting, permanent realization than this temporary transient shit.
00:39:29.000So we went and became an ascetic And he, like, starved himself to the point of death, almost, because he did everything in the extreme.
00:39:43.000You told me about that, because you know that I have this thing about collecting Buddha statues, and I've got a couple of Thai Buddhas and shit, and then you told me about this starving Buddha.
00:39:53.000I was like, what are you talking about?
00:54:01.000But, I mean, isn't it interesting that we have this sort of escalated anger that exists inside cars because we don't have to socially interact with each other.
00:54:22.000I don't think I could ever go back down to a small little car because you feel even more protected in an SUV. Because if shit goes down, you just run the person over and go over a couple cars and escape.
00:54:36.000Yeah, it's weird how you just assume, but it's funny also, the things that people say when they're in cars.
00:54:42.000There's a video of Nick Diaz, and he had missed a press conference, and he was supposed to go and fight George St. Pierre, but they pulled him from the fight because he missed a couple of press conferences, so he made a video about it, and this is a video, like a public video, and he's in his car, and as he's driving, making this video, someone won't let him in.
00:54:59.000He's like, let me in, let me in, fuck your mother!
00:57:13.000Like, say, look up conception personhood at conception.
00:57:17.000The idea is, like, when conception happens, when the fucking eggs are on the uterine wall and are fertilized by a sperm, that is now a human being.
00:57:29.000So they were trying to pass that, which would make all forms of abortion illegal and maybe even birth control, depending on, like, how you look at it.
00:58:24.000There's a lot of versions of abortion that I think are fucking horrible and I totally am not for, but there is definitely cases where it should happen.
00:58:34.000Well, not only that, how about, you know...
00:58:36.000It's up to the person who's carrying the baby inside of them.
00:58:39.000Until the baby's born, it's up to them.
00:58:40.000I mean, I think if you have an aborted kid that's perfectly healthy and it's like six months old inside your body, that's kind of crazy.
00:58:48.000But I know that people have done that in the past.
00:58:50.000I think if it's not for a medical reason, it's not...
01:00:24.000It depends on a lot of different things.
01:00:28.000Everyone wants to make these sweeping things.
01:00:31.000The two extreme sides are it should be illegal no matter what.
01:00:37.000Even if a rapist impregnated the woman and the baby's going to kill her, then she should have that baby and we'll raise the baby up to Christ.
01:01:59.000Until we perfect the system, the legal system, you can't have the death penalty.
01:02:06.000It's not part of being a citizen of the United States does not mean that you've got to risk being falsely imprisoned and executed because the legal system isn't perfect.
01:04:15.000is Norwegian death metal where these fucking guys decide that they're gonna go hardcore and be like truly truly as dark as you can get terrible people terrible well they they like so they started burning down churches they started going through the countryside burning down churches and uh one in one of the bands one of the band members uh was so depressed Because he's into death metal,
01:04:43.000and that's all they think about is death, that he goes back to his house, puts a gun in his mouth, and blows his brains out.
01:04:50.000And the other guy in the band comes to the house...
01:04:53.000Sees his dead body, takes a picture of his fucking head, and uses that as the cover of their next album.
01:05:04.000Yeah, it's just fucking hardcore, man.
01:05:07.000So they're burning down churches, and Burzum hears that this other guy was his competitor, he had some history with, he heard that this guy was saying, yeah, I'm gonna kill him.
01:09:04.000As the prison system that we have today, to take those people and just shove them into country clubs and make everything nice and fun and easy.
01:09:13.000The thing is, man, there's so many other, you know, there's the, what do they call it?
01:09:19.000Do you think that that would ever possibly work?
01:09:22.000Well, I think you have to mix in some pharmaceuticals.
01:09:26.000You have to be able to legally give them mushrooms and psychedelics in combination with really radical therapies to reform them.
01:09:51.000Yeah, and it was, you know, it's anyone who's done a psychedelic, if you think about it, you're like, oh yeah, this could really, this, if anything, can fix a person's deep psychic problems, this could do it, if it was done the right way.
01:10:06.000Because of the pharmacological inquisition that is happening right now, these substances, you can barely even experiment with them.
01:10:15.000And now that they have, Johns Hopkins University is saying, oh yeah, if you eat mushrooms, it'll improve your personality.
01:10:24.000Maybe the Hopkins study will lead to more studies, which will lead to treatments for people who have...
01:10:32.000Are all these studies, when they do these studies, all these people that are taking these studies are usually people that need money and probably are depressed anyway, so they probably made everybody's life...
01:10:44.000See, the thing is, man, they don't take really nice wealthy golfers that are retired on Florida and go, hey, take this study.
01:10:51.000They're probably taking people that need a quick $300.
01:12:19.000Yeah, I do too, but along the way, it's always this white-knuckle ride where you're scared as fuck before you do it, and then once you do it, you realize, God, why was I ever scared of this?
01:12:29.000And then after it's over, you sort of assess whatever you've kind of absorbed, whatever fish you've caught in your golden net.
01:12:51.000When I was a kid, you'd go to shopping malls and trip.
01:12:56.000Did you ever get to a point where you weren't lucid, like you couldn't communicate?
01:13:00.000With LSD? Yeah, like where you're out and you're talking to people and you just can't keep it together, like you can't communicate with them?
01:13:18.000We had just gone to some Greek festival and I had watched these little kids dancing and I was like sitting watching these kids like doing some weird Greek traditional dance and it was like It felt like I could see through the concrete.
01:13:32.000It just felt like this beautiful moment where the universe is like watching a flower.
01:14:51.000There's certain people that are accusing that study of wrecking his brain, you know, and that he was a fairly normal guy, and once he went through the LSD study, they cooked him.
01:15:39.000But what did happen is the guy became a professor of mathematics for a few years at, I think it was University of California, Berkeley, and he just did it to make enough money to buy this cabin in the woods and plot his attack on technology.
01:15:59.000If you don't know the story of the Unabomber, if you're a young child, if you're coming to us under the age of 20, you might not even have ever heard of it before.
01:16:07.000But it was a guy who was a brilliant, brilliant guy who was targeting all these various people that were involved in technology and fucking blowing their heads off.
01:17:29.000I mean, you start getting to the point where people become human hybrids, you know, when we become cyborgs, you know, technology literally will take over.
01:17:39.000I mean, he saw a path, and I mean, it's a horrible thing that he did, but it's fascinating that blowing his brain out on acid would make him reach that conclusion.
01:17:48.000I mean, I might be simplifying his position.
01:21:30.000They get her, put her on a table, straps, strapped her down, and the last thing I saw her was on a fucking table in front of a rave, writhing and going back into my That came from her womb!
01:22:13.000That's the problem with drugs being illegal.
01:22:15.000You don't know what the fuck you're gonna get.
01:22:16.000Yeah, and most people don't know how to take them.
01:22:18.000No one educates people on how to take them, so you end up with some fucking dumb, dopey kid who slurps back too much acid or whatever at a fucking rave and ends up in a mental asylum, probably for a few days.
01:22:29.000How many people do you think have gone crazy because of acid?
01:22:31.000Has anybody gone crazy because of anything else?
01:22:34.000Like, no one's gone crazy because of mushrooms, right?
01:22:43.000Yeah, well, I remember one particular DMT trip where reality was real slippery for like two weeks afterwards where I felt like I might be a little crazy.
01:24:06.000It might be something that you're just not capable of tuning into on a regular basis.
01:24:12.000See, this makes me think of a problem that I think is going to happen in the future, which is that once they figure out how to neurally put video games in your mind...
01:24:23.000People are going to start having these real big problems differentiating virtual reality from actual reality.
01:24:31.000And there's going to be some serious problems up ahead.
01:24:54.000But what happens when that reality gets so good, you can no longer distinguish realities.
01:25:00.000You can no longer distinguish virtual worlds from real worlds because they're triggering the same thing in your brain that reality is triggering right now, but they're doing with computers.
01:25:33.000And you saw that, for me it was like, holy shit.
01:25:35.000You have to consider the possibility that if this life is some sort of an illusion, that it's some sort of an ever-changing illusion, and that you're constantly in a part of it, and maybe when you have these psychedelic trips, you wake up temporarily from the illusion.
01:25:50.000Maybe psychedelics are like that sniffing shit that they give you when you get knocked out.
01:26:09.000Or it's just like really low down on the spectrum of awareness.
01:26:12.000I mean, it is happening, but you're only seeing one tiny pixel of the bigger thing.
01:26:16.000It does many times feel like it's a work of fiction, though, doesn't it?
01:26:21.000Yeah, can I tell you when it really felt like a work of fiction?
01:26:25.000When we flew on Air France first fucking class to the UK. That was, for me, it got really, really surreal and weird when we were sitting in that lounge.
01:26:40.000So this was the kind of first class that I'd read about.
01:26:43.000If you're out there and you've never flown Air France first class, first of all, please stay away from me because I don't like talking with people who haven't flown first class Air France.
01:26:53.000But I felt corrupted in the first 30 minutes.
01:26:58.000This is so different from any other flight.
01:27:03.000It made every other first class experience I've had seem like Shit seemed like some it was well, you know, it was really creepy.
01:27:10.000You know what a creepy move that they did man what everybody was there was first class Which is really nice and there was business class which is still really nice and there was coach which always sucks Well, we got up the plane landed and a lady went through the aisle and Telling the business class people to get out of the way and let the first class people get off the plane first.
01:28:59.000Because, you know, sometimes I'll go out to a public place where there's a shitload of people and I'll walk around and I'll be like, man, I fucking hate being around all these people.
01:33:50.000But there needs to be a website just dedicated to identifying the police at these protests who are being violent and pressing charges against them and suing them and making it so that it becomes financially dangerous for the individual to act the way that they're acting.
01:34:06.000Because if these cops, if we can just get one of them, and I'm not saying get one violently, obviously I'm saying, but if we can just get one legally or financially, if one of these cops can go down like that, then all of them will start being afraid and they won't be so prone to use violence like that.
01:35:24.000If you're a cop, what the fuck are you going to do?
01:35:27.000The cops are obviously being sent there to keep these people from protesting or push them off of certain areas or keep them from entering certain places, but at the end of the day, they're stuck.
01:35:40.000There's no excuse for what they're doing.
01:35:42.000There's no excuse for beating those people.
01:35:44.000There's no excuse for prodding those people.
01:35:45.000They should absolutely not be cops because they can't handle that if they're doing that.
01:35:50.000You don't have to hit someone who's not hitting you, man.
01:35:52.000None of those people are hitting back.
01:35:54.000It wasn't like they were in danger and they had to protect themselves.
01:38:52.000The person to blame is not those cops.
01:38:54.000It sounds like they should be to blame, but the person to blame is the person who put those cops in a position where they're going after law-abiding citizens.
01:39:03.000That's the problem because then, even though those people technically aren't committing any crimes other than loitering, what are they doing?
01:39:37.000And when some asshole tells these cops, now you have to go and you have to push back these crowds of unhappy, intelligent people who are nonviolent.
01:39:48.000And these people have very valid points about the corruption that has eroded our system to an almost unfixable point.
01:39:55.000And they're fucking upset because they're in college, and where the fuck is their future?
01:39:59.000You cunts have ruined the whole batch!
01:40:18.000You're wired to treat criminals like criminals.
01:40:20.000Yeah, all of a sudden, these young kids who have very valid points become criminals.
01:40:25.000But it's also because there's a lot of douchebags in those groups.
01:40:27.000Those groups are never pure, you know?
01:40:29.000Well, no, and also those groups are...
01:40:31.000By the way, the whole fucking problem with the current formation of this protest movement or this revolution right now is that it's so loosely...
01:40:40.000It's the problem, and it's what's awesome about it, is that it's modular, and it seems to be broken up in all these groups that have come together into this one thing.
01:40:49.000But there is no easier group to infiltrate than a modular group like that.
01:40:54.000So by now, the CIA, they must have infiltrated.
01:43:55.000Do you know anything about this football case?
01:43:58.000No, we talked about it on one of the podcasts earlier, but it seems like one guy was caught up to 40 different people that he's fucked, like in showers and stuff.
01:44:08.000And he was an assistant football coach, Sandusky, and apparently he's like a famous guy.
01:44:12.000I don't know anything about the world of football, but I've heard the name Joe Paterno.
01:44:17.000And then I guess Ashton Kusher came on Twitter and said something like, I can't believe they fired him or something like that, like he was defending the guy.
01:44:25.000And then somebody said that now Ashton gave his Twitter account to...
01:44:32.000Somebody else to do from now on because it's just too many feedback from what he said.
01:44:37.000So someone else is handling his Twitter account because he complained that they fired a guy who covered up a fucking assistant coach who was banging kids.
01:45:46.000You know, when you're dealing with a case this big?
01:45:48.000Apparently what happened was a grad student went into a shower, went back to retrieve something, and he heard noises in the shower that were like steady rhythmic slapping noises, went in and saw this guy fucking a 10-year-old boy in the ass in the shower.
01:46:10.000Him on the phone with one of the boy's mothers, and the boy's mother asks him if he touched the boy in an inappropriate place, in an inappropriate manner.
01:48:01.000No, but there's a, like, you know, in families, people have been molested.
01:48:05.000It was like, they would pretend that it wasn't happening.
01:48:09.000The family would kind of pretend it wasn't there, but they all know it's kind of there, but nobody wants to deal with it because it's so fucked up.
01:48:16.000I know a girl who was molested by her uncle, and her family attacked her and her sister and her cousins, who were all molested by the same guy.
01:48:24.000Her family all attacked them and said that they were all lying.
01:52:12.000I guess the photographer of a lot of her photos, her sexy photos, like where she's with her boyfriend or her husband or whatever, are actually taken by her mom.
01:53:02.000Obviously completely fucked up to fuck people under 18. But in general, don't you think that outside of that, which I think is sociologically super fucked up and it clearly fucks people's lives up and people that do it should be thrown to alligators.
01:53:19.000But in general, isn't it strange that for adults, sex, the terms used to describe sex, dirty, naughty, funny, It's like we attach to the act of bringing life into the universe or simulating bringing life into the universe.
01:53:37.000We attach to that so many adjectives that are just like, it's disgusting, smut, filth.
01:53:44.000That's what, when you look at porn, that's like the words they use to sell porn.
01:53:49.000The dirtiest, smuttiest, filthiest whore is this side.
01:53:55.000Well, it's obviously because in order to have an industrial revolution, in order to have the society that we currently enjoy, people have to work.
01:54:04.000And if people were just dirty fucking all day, they would complicate shit.
01:54:20.000It's what you were telling me about how you were in Germany and you watched a gangbang on regular TV. They didn't show penetration, but this dude was banging this chick from behind.
01:54:46.000It's the fact that it's not is an indication of how backwards and repressed we are.
01:54:52.000By the way, filthy, dirty things are awesome.
01:54:56.000I'm not saying that that doesn't add to the excitement of it, but it seems like in our culture it's so fucking Scarlet Letter, Nathaniel Hawthorne-style humiliation of people who really aren't doing anything that bad.
01:55:12.000compared to what other people in the world are doing.
01:56:54.000He believes that psychedelic mushrooms and the eating of them was responsible for the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years.
01:57:02.000Huge, huge mystery in the fossil record.
01:57:04.000So he had a lot of really nutty theories like that, but they're very interesting to consider, but I don't know.
01:58:00.000She's like, that's the one thing that happens, you know, when everyone else is fucking and someone wants to serve you drinks, you barely even concentrate on that person.
01:58:06.000You're like, yeah, yeah, here's your money.
02:00:53.000And during this divorce boom, this specific genre of music came out.
02:00:57.000And I know it very well, because that's what my mom would listen to.
02:01:00.000She'd come and pick me up at the Y and I would sit in the backseat of her car as she listened to like turn around bright eyes That's a divorce song.
02:01:13.000Oh, she would she would get you know It was very like dramatic and those songs are burnt into my mind and one of them was that Dan Fogelberg Oh Oh my god.
02:01:24.000Here's my experience with Dan Fogelberg.
02:01:26.000When I was growing up, I lived in San Francisco when I was about, from 7 to 11. And we had a next door neighbor, this cool guy named Barry.
02:01:45.000I just loved the fact that you could put a headphone on and it pushed into the jack and you'd play a record and it was like, you know, it was in your head and I'd be singing along.
02:01:52.000They'd have to tell me to shut up, stop singing.
02:05:47.000I mean, I can't even sing it because you have to have like seven synthesizers and a UFO just to make whatever fucking noises are coming out of Spongle.
02:05:55.000You have to have a UFO. Yeah, that's like rave music, right?
02:05:58.000Is that what you would consider rave music?
02:05:59.000It's kind of like ambient rave music or something.
02:06:02.000But yeah, it doesn't have as much of a driving beat.
02:06:50.000I saw this thing on Reddit, and maybe I'm not remembering it right, but it said if you ever want to hide files on your computer, create a folder that says Nickelback.
02:08:07.000It's like his voice or the style of their music, just like chalk.
02:08:10.000It seems like people feel like it's not honest or something.
02:08:20.000I think I've seen a Nickelback video and it was very affected and it was very hard to watch because it was sappy and super cheesy.
02:08:33.000I don't have a strong opinion about them.
02:08:36.000They also seem like, you know, there's certain bands, like remember when New Kids on the Block came out, and it was like kind of hip to not like New Kids on the Block?
02:12:02.000One of this segment I saw, I'm sure if you YouTube this kid you can find it right away, but he's with his piano teacher and he takes the music and he flips it backwards and upside down and he can play it backwards.
02:12:15.000He can play music backwards and upside down.
02:12:18.000And she was like, I don't see how anyone can do this.
02:12:21.000He's composed like five symphonies and they say that most people don't do that or do that in their lifetime.
02:19:42.000Jay also teaches high school courses at another school, which his parents say he'll complete when he's 14. Complete when he's 14. As written, okay?
02:19:51.000Elizabeth Wolff is a well-known concert pianist who works with Jay on his piano technique.
02:21:20.000When he gets bored, he gets restless, and then he starts improvising.
02:21:23.000Last week, he took the Beethoven sonata of the working right now and decided that everything would be kind of interesting upside down and backwards.
02:21:30.000So he took the volume and literally did just that.
02:27:58.000It's 5-HTP and a bunch of other stuff, including L-tryptophan, which I believe converts to 5-HTP, which eventually converts to serotonin, and the idea is that it's like a time-release sort of effect.
02:28:58.000Joey Diaz and Eddie Bravo and I are talking about doing regular MMA podcasts.
02:29:03.000And we might as well do them here because there's more room and Joey can scream and shout.
02:29:08.000But the idea is people keep saying, like, why don't you guys talk about MMA? Why don't you talk about MMA? Because a lot of times it's just me talking, you know?
02:29:14.000It's like, you know, if it's with you guys, I'm talking MMA with you guys.
02:29:17.000I mean, Duncan, you saw the fights in England, but...
02:29:20.000You know, I mean, how much do you want to talk about it?