The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1560 - Mike Baker

00:00:12.000 It's a walrus dick. 1.00

00:00:15.000 Fossilized walrus dick. 1.00

00:00:18.000 Somebody gave it to me. 0.99

00:00:19.000 It wasn't my idea.

00:00:20.000 I could have had that information before I picked it up.

00:00:25.000 I'm sorry.

00:00:26.000 Check, check, check.

00:00:27.000 There we go.

00:00:29.000 Yeah, Steve Rinella was here yesterday, and I guess the technical term is bacula.

00:00:34.000 I didn't know it was called a bacula.

00:00:36.000 That's what it is. 0.86

00:00:38.000 Dick bone. 0.96

00:00:39.000 I've got one at home.

00:00:40.000 Oddly enough, a friend of mine has been up in Alaska most of his life.

00:00:44.000 He sent this...

00:00:45.000 It's not like this.

00:00:46.000 It's on this ornamental stand, and it's polished, and it looks like a piece of ivory almost.

00:00:51.000 And I was like, what the hell is this thing?

00:00:54.000 But it was great.

00:00:54.000 It was very nice.

00:00:55.000 It was his gift, he said.

00:00:57.000 I never thought to ask him what the hell it was. 0.99

00:00:59.000 A dick bone. 0.99

00:00:59.000 Yeah, until he came to visit one time. 0.99

00:01:01.000 Are we rolling?

00:01:02.000 Sure.

00:01:02.000 Yeah, let's just keep it from there.

00:01:04.000 Yeah.

00:01:06.000 What type of animal was it?

00:01:08.000 A walrus bone.

00:01:10.000 Same size as that?

00:01:11.000 No, no.

00:01:12.000 This one was not as well endowed, but it's shinier, the one that I've got.

00:01:17.000 Maybe it's older, more polished.

00:01:19.000 So here we are, Mike Baker.

00:01:21.000 It is Friday.

00:01:23.000 The elections were Tuesday.

00:01:25.000 We still don't know who the new president is, which I guess...

00:01:28.000 I was having a conversation.

00:01:30.000 I forget who told this to me, but the Al Gore-Bush election took 45 days to resolve.

00:01:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:38.000 I forgot that it was that long.

00:01:40.000 Remember, they didn't actually concede, I think, or whatever you want to call it, get sort of the final count until 12 or 13 December.

00:01:49.000 So Al Gore and his lawyers, the DNC, they carried that in 2000. They carried that process out.

00:01:57.000 And they were entitled to, just like in the current time, if the current president of Trump wants to pursue remedies for what they perceive to be irregularities, then that, by law, you're entitled to do that.

00:02:11.000 Now, you don't want to get in the game of making spurious accusations and just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, so it has to be based in something.

00:02:19.000 But this is not unprecedented, and so I think people need to keep that in mind. 0.98

00:02:24.000 I feel like there's part of me that feels like there's some fuckery afoot, for sure.

00:02:30.000 But there's also part of me that thinks that... 0.97

00:02:33.000 And this is going to sound ridiculous.

00:02:36.000 But maybe for the psyche of the country...

00:02:41.000 It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Biden won.

00:02:47.000 Yeah, no, I see where you're going with it.

00:02:49.000 I don't...

00:02:50.000 What's the word I'm looking for? 0.98

00:02:52.000 I don't disagree as long as that fuckery is properly investigated, right? 0.97

00:02:57.000 And I think it's pretty sweet. 0.97

00:03:01.000 I mean, look, you got to be consistent, right? 0.99

00:03:04.000 With your fuckery? 1.00

00:03:05.000 With your fuckery, right. 1.00

00:03:06.000 If you've spent the past four years Denying the results of the 2016 election or chasing the Russian collusion bullshit or if you were in the media and you've been just throwing that crap around about the Russian collusion and happily doing it for the past four years, 0.99

00:03:22.000 then you really don't have the moral high ground now to say that the other side can't investigate, can't cry foul, can't say they've got concerns and that we should just all, as Nancy Pelosi says, we just have to unify now. 0.83

00:03:37.000 Is that what she said?

00:03:39.000 Yeah, she came out today and it's like, oh, the good thing is we just need to unify.

00:03:43.000 Under who?

00:03:44.000 Under you?

00:03:46.000 Under the president-elect, as she referred to him, or soon to be Joe Biden.

00:03:51.000 But I see what you're saying.

00:03:54.000 Look, I'm far more concerned, because I like a divided government, right?

00:04:00.000 I wouldn't want to see one party, regardless of which party it is, have control of everything. 0.97

00:04:04.000 I always think that's when shit happens or things go wrong. 0.95

00:04:09.000 So I'd be fine, right? 0.98

00:04:12.000 The Republic's going to survive just fine if, for instance, the Senate remains in control of the Republicans.

00:04:17.000 The House, you know, it's going to be tighter now.

00:04:20.000 Look, I mean, the House, you know, Pelosi lost...

00:04:23.000 You know, conservatively, you know, right now they're saying five seats, but there's ten other seats leaning towards the Republicans in a heavy way.

00:04:30.000 So she could have a, you know, a 15-seat turnaround, 16-seat turnaround. 0.91

00:04:34.000 It's going to be a very thin majority that she's going to have. 0.97

00:04:36.000 But that's fine.

00:04:37.000 So they've got the House, the GOP has the Senate, Biden, Harris, you know, they win if they win.

00:04:44.000 Okay, we're gonna be just fine, right?

00:04:48.000 My concern is the Senate.

00:04:50.000 If that tips over and the deciding vote is cast by Kamala Harris because it's 50-50, then we got a problem.

00:04:57.000 And I think the most fascinating thing about all of this, which is getting lost in the wash because naturally we're all distracted with what's going on between Trump and Biden right now, Is those two Senate races in Georgia, right?

00:05:10.000 It's 48-48.

00:05:12.000 Likely, we're getting Alaska and North Carolina wrapped up for the Republican side.

00:05:17.000 They're going to end up at 50. You got two seats left, right?

00:05:21.000 And those are both in Georgia.

00:05:23.000 Those are both going to be runoffs, basically, in January sometime.

00:05:27.000 Because unless one of them hits the 50% threshold, if, what's his name, Purdue gets the 50% plus one vote, okay, then now it's 51 to the Republicans, and they have control of the Senate still.

00:05:43.000 Otherwise, I think we got problems if the Dems end up with the White House, the Senate, and Congress.

00:05:51.000 I'm just never comfortable with one-party rule.

00:05:53.000 No, that sounds terrible.

00:05:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:56.000 By God, it does!

00:05:57.000 Well, it's just I've never paid attention to the Speaker of the House until it was Nancy Pelosi.

00:06:05.000 And it seems like it's been Nancy Pelosi for 112 years.

00:06:09.000 Well, was it the Speaker of the House that was Dennis Hastert?

00:06:12.000 Is that the guy that we were talking about the other day that got arrested for molesting kids?

00:06:18.000 Oh, kid toucher, yeah.

00:06:19.000 Wasn't he the Speaker of the House?

00:06:21.000 Was he Speaker of the House?

00:06:22.000 I guess he was, yeah, for a period of time.

00:06:25.000 Was it?

00:06:25.000 Or minority leader.

00:06:26.000 That's crazy that that guy got to that position and then wound up getting 15 months.

00:06:31.000 Here it is.

00:06:32.000 Is that what we got?

00:06:33.000 99 to 2007, so quite a while. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Eight fucking years. 0.98

00:06:37.000 Longest serving Republic Speaker of the House in history. 1.00

00:06:40.000 Wow. 1.00

00:06:40.000 And he was a kid fucker. 1.00

00:06:43.000 And what was his sentence? 1.00

00:06:44.000 His sentence was only 15...

00:06:45.000 15 months.

00:06:46.000 How does that work?

00:06:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:48.000 Yeah.

00:06:49.000 Exactly.

00:06:50.000 How does that work?

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:51.000 He knows where the bodies are buried.

00:06:53.000 Yeah.

00:06:53.000 That's how that works.

00:06:54.000 They're like, look, 15 months.

00:06:56.000 It'll be gone before you know it.

00:06:58.000 Come on, Dennis.

00:06:59.000 It'll be gone before you know it.

00:07:00.000 Keep a secret, Dennis.

00:07:02.000 God.

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 But I think...

00:07:04.000 Look, my favorite...

00:07:08.000 It's the irony, right?

00:07:09.000 It's a lack of self-awareness on both sides that I always find fascinating. 1.00

00:07:13.000 My favorite tweet so far since Tuesday, since the election day, was after, I think it came out on Wednesday, some progressive tweeted, I think I'm almost getting it word for word, Republicans are such sore fucking losers. 0.99

00:07:30.000 And I read it and I thought, well, this has got to be like a parody, right? 0.99

00:07:34.000 They got to be kidding around.

00:07:35.000 And so then you have to dig in there and investigate and read everything else they've been reading or writing.

00:07:38.000 And you look and you realize, no, they're serious.

00:07:41.000 And then you read the thread after that and all the response is like, oh, that's so true. 1.00

00:07:45.000 That fuckers, they can't take a loss. 1.00

00:07:47.000 And you're thinking there is no fucking self-awareness on that side. 1.00

00:07:51.000 I have no respect for people that mass generalize entire political parties like that. 1.00

00:07:58.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:07:59.000 Republicans are such this. 1.00

00:08:02.000 Like, come on.

00:08:02.000 Just stop.

00:08:03.000 I know what you do. 0.99

00:08:04.000 You're just spitting out nonsense. 0.97

00:08:07.000 It's one thing if you want to say that. 0.94

00:08:09.000 I guess that is what you're saying on Twitter, though.

00:08:11.000 The problem is it's written down, right?

00:08:13.000 So you take it more seriously. 1.00

00:08:14.000 But if you're just having coffee with your friend and you're like, Republicans are such fucking sore losers. 1.00

00:08:18.000 And you're like, yeah, right? 1.00

00:08:19.000 Like they would say, they are, right?

00:08:22.000 But when you're saying it to the whole world, it's like you're allowing the whole world to listen in on a conversation you're having at Starbucks.

00:08:28.000 You've got to be a little bit better at being self-aware and also recognizing that you spent, if you're a hardcore Democrat, you spent the last four years saying Russia got Trump into power.

00:08:40.000 And even after the evidence comes out that that's not true, you're in denial of that and have never taken it back.

00:08:47.000 And you've got different groups, right?

00:08:49.000 I mean, again, you're right.

00:08:50.000 This is on both sides.

00:08:51.000 This is right.

00:08:51.000 This is left.

00:08:52.000 This doesn't...

00:08:53.000 It's always, you know, to say, oh, that coffee went all over the place.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, but I caught it.

00:08:57.000 You did?

00:08:57.000 No.

00:08:57.000 I did.

00:08:58.000 It went over a little bit.

00:09:00.000 I caught it in mid-spill.

00:09:02.000 Just leave some towels in here, buddy. 0.99

00:09:03.000 I always spill.

00:09:04.000 Just leave some towels and some lotion in case...

00:09:08.000 It's a shaky time.

00:09:08.000 Yeah, we do a Zoom call.

00:09:11.000 How was that?

00:09:12.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:09:13.000 Wow.

00:09:14.000 Who thinks about doing that?

00:09:15.000 It's not just one person that's been busted doing that either.

00:09:17.000 It's quite a few.

00:09:18.000 You know what this shows you really?

00:09:20.000 How many men are addicted to pornography?

00:09:22.000 That's what it shows you. 0.99

00:09:23.000 How many men are addicted to masturbation and pornography? 0.98

00:09:26.000 So much so that while they're supposed to be working during the day, they can't help themselves. 0.99

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:31.000 And you would think though...

00:09:33.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a very good point.

00:09:37.000 You're stunned by the idea that perhaps during a business Zoom call, you could set that aside for that 30 minutes or so.

00:09:46.000 I wonder if they're still listening to the conversation, and how does it not break your concentration?

00:09:51.000 Who knows?

00:09:52.000 Some people find different things interesting.

00:09:55.000 We're going to run through those second quarter numbers.

00:09:57.000 Oh, God.

00:09:58.000 Here comes the second quarter numbers.

00:10:02.000 The logistical supply chain.

00:10:04.000 What is the status right now?

00:10:07.000 It's like Pennsylvania.

00:10:08.000 So here we are, first of all.

00:10:10.000 It's Friday.

00:10:11.000 The election was on Tuesday.

00:10:13.000 We're supposed to know who the president is. 0.99

00:10:14.000 How the fuck doesn't Alaska know? 0.98

00:10:17.000 I just read that Alaska only has 50% reported. 0.99

00:10:20.000 Yeah.

00:10:20.000 You lazy fucks.

00:10:21.000 It's a big space. 1.00

00:10:23.000 It's a lot of distance for those sled dog teams to go with the ballots. 0.55

00:10:28.000 Is that what it is?

00:10:29.000 Well, no.

00:10:30.000 I can't imagine that's what it is, right?

00:10:33.000 Someone up there is lazy.

00:10:34.000 But it is funny because, okay, look, if one side's winning two to one...

00:10:40.000 But there's 50% left.

00:10:42.000 Yeah.

00:10:43.000 You can't really call it.

00:10:43.000 You can't call it.

00:10:44.000 No, that is...

00:10:45.000 Okay, that's true.

00:10:46.000 But yeah, so where we are is...

00:10:48.000 What the hell?

00:10:50.000 It's Friday. 0.96

00:10:52.000 And you would have thought...

00:10:54.000 It looks like Pennsylvania is leaning towards Biden.

00:10:57.000 Georgia is leaning towards Biden.

00:10:59.000 It's basically over for Trump.

00:11:01.000 I mean, if you look at it, you don't see a lot of avenues for success on this one.

00:11:06.000 I mean, look, Pennsylvania, they're still saying, rightly so, it's too close to call...

00:11:10.000 They've got 8,000-some-odd military absentee ballots still to count.

00:11:15.000 The assumption would be— Those would be Trump.

00:11:18.000 Those would be for Trump, just like they assume a lot of the mail-in ballots in the Philadelphia area or Allegheny will be for Biden.

00:11:25.000 But they have to go through that process.

00:11:27.000 Now, Pennsylvania is an interesting one, right?

00:11:29.000 I mean, again, there's a lot of people that are getting very pissy about Trump's attitude towards this whole thing.

00:11:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:11:55.000 And maybe there's no fucking fraud. 0.98

00:11:57.000 You have to—it's like an investigation, right? 0.96

00:11:59.000 When you do an investigation, you have to base it on—right from the very beginning—you have to base it on facts, on something concrete, right?

00:12:06.000 If you don't, you're building an entire investigation, potentially, on very shaky ground. 1.00

00:12:10.000 The whole thing comes tumbling down, and it's a house of shit. 0.98

00:12:13.000 You know, it's like an operation, an Intel operation. 0.99

00:12:17.000 Everybody remembers, maybe not, the WMD, you know, fiasco, you know, from Iraq. 0.98

00:12:22.000 The idea that, oh my God, we got to get in there because they got WMD. Well, a lot of that, you know, was based on one source reporting, right?

00:12:30.000 Which got into the reporting chain and then got reinvented in another report and then got, you know, self-corroborated in another reporting.

00:12:38.000 And before you know it, you're confirming...

00:12:40.000 All the same information from originally that one source, right?

00:12:43.000 Very shaky.

00:12:44.000 So you're not building an invasion of a country on solid information. 0.92

00:12:50.000 So with Pennsylvania, if people are looking at that and going, oh, there's all sorts of shit going on and it's fraud, well, you got to step back and you got to say, okay, where are the problems?

00:13:01.000 Now, there's a handful of issues that I think are legitimate in Pennsylvania, one of them being This idea that the state Supreme Court circumvented what the legislative branch in Pennsylvania said about ballots and when you can count the ballots up until what time, 0.71

00:13:17.000 the postmarking on the ballots.

00:13:19.000 And so that's a legitimate issue that probably or could end up in a higher court.

00:13:25.000 Did the state Supreme Court in Pennsylvania have that right, according to the Constitution?

00:13:30.000 Because the state houses in each state set the laws about this very thing.

00:13:38.000 And you've got a problem, though, in Pennsylvania because the state house is run by Republicans.

00:13:42.000 Now, this bullshit about how long it's taking to count the votes could have been sorted out if a year ago, or not even that, if six months ago, when we knew this pandemic was a problem, when we knew we were going to get unprecedented levels of mail-in votes...

00:13:57.000 If the Republican State House had said, okay, here's when we can start counting those mail-in votes, as soon as we start receiving them, how about that? 0.89

00:14:05.000 So they could have been well ahead. 0.67

00:14:09.000 Both sides have fucked this up, right? 0.77

00:14:12.000 It's not one side or the other. 0.72

00:14:14.000 Both sides, once again, The truth is always—we talked about this before—is always somewhere in the center, and that's true here.

00:14:23.000 But anyway, Pennsylvania, close to call.

00:14:26.000 This idea that they're preventing observers from coming in or standing close enough, because they allowed them in, but then were they able to stand close enough to observe anything of any value?

00:14:37.000 That should never be in question.

00:14:39.000 So they let them in.

00:14:41.000 Is this all been corroborated?

00:14:43.000 This is proven?

00:14:44.000 They let them in but they wouldn't let them actually observe what they were doing?

00:14:47.000 There was delays in some districts, right?

00:14:49.000 Because counties run these elections and so some counties do it by the book and others apparently have decided they can do things a little bit differently.

00:14:59.000 So, some, they were not able to get in, as far as access goes, as, you know, once the voting started.

00:15:06.000 Some, they weren't able to go in for the pre-vote counting, or the pre-voting day counting of these ballots.

00:15:14.000 And others, they were able to go in, and they were kept maybe 25 feet back, instead of what apparently was like a six-feet distance that had been, I think, I'm not, don't quote me on this, but maybe a responsibly...

00:15:27.000 How could you read it 25 feet away?

00:15:30.000 That seems insane.

00:15:31.000 Exactly.

00:15:32.000 Some places had them watching on monitors, which again is useless.

00:15:37.000 The problem there is that should never happen.

00:15:40.000 You should be able to always agree, both sides, that you need campaign observers in there, and they have that right to observe the counting of these things.

00:15:49.000 And it all comes down to the same issue, whether it's that or whether it's counting ballots or discarding ballots because the person's died previous to the election.

00:16:02.000 It all comes down to the perception of fraud.

00:16:21.000 And if you don't have a transparent system set up, right, that is easy to see, you've got to be able to look at it and not be told by politicians, not be told by, you know, election officials or the media that it's a good, credible system.

00:16:37.000 The voter has to be able to look at the process and say, yeah, that's fair and transparent.

00:16:42.000 It's like cover for action.

00:16:47.000 If I'm doing surveillance on some target, and I'm out in the middle of some, whether it's a shithole or whether it's an urban center in a developed country, I have to have cover for action. 0.75

00:17:01.000 I have to have a reason that is plainly obvious by passerbys or by local authorities or police that patrol the area.

00:17:07.000 Oh, I get it.

00:17:08.000 That's why he's there, right?

00:17:10.000 We did an op one time where...

00:17:14.000 It was overseas.

00:17:15.000 We were waiting for a target to show up, and it was a port, right?

00:17:22.000 And busy, a lot of people coming and going, tourists, workers, commercial workers, everybody coming and going from this busy port.

00:17:30.000 And, you know, what you didn't have is you didn't have a lot of people just hanging out, right?

00:17:34.000 There weren't a lot of opportunities just to hang out.

00:17:36.000 So you had to have a reason, right?

00:17:38.000 So what do you do?

00:17:39.000 You set somebody down there with a couple of pieces of luggage and a baby stroller and a baby.

00:17:46.000 Don't ask me where I got the baby from.

00:17:48.000 And you...

00:17:49.000 Just stole a baby, you know?

00:17:52.000 Hey, it's for the good of the country.

00:17:55.000 And we requisitioned it.

00:17:57.000 We have a baby requisition department down in the basement of the agency.

00:18:01.000 No, we don't.

00:18:01.000 No, no.

00:18:02.000 It was my own baby, actually.

00:18:04.000 It was my daughter when she was a little baby.

00:18:06.000 You used your own daughter during a covert operation?

00:18:08.000 Wait, is that wrong?

00:18:09.000 I don't think so.

00:18:10.000 No.

00:18:10.000 I'm just curious.

00:18:12.000 Yeah.

00:18:12.000 And it worked like a charm because they could sit there for hours, right, waiting theoretically for a boat, but obviously pulling surveillance from an observation post.

00:18:21.000 And people walking by were like, yeah, there's some lady with a baby, you know, suitcases to cover for action. 1.00

00:18:29.000 They whacked an industrialist in Germany one time where the hit team... 0.51

00:18:36.000 It was very elaborate.

00:18:38.000 But they did what they always do.

00:18:39.000 They surveil.

00:18:41.000 They figure out the guy's routes.

00:18:42.000 And as is usual, your choke points, that's what they're looking for.

00:18:47.000 You get in a vehicle and you drive, you're going to have choke points.

00:18:49.000 Usually it's at the place of work or it's at your home.

00:18:53.000 But it may be somewhere In between, maybe there's an avenue that's always, you know, blocked up.

00:18:59.000 Maybe there's a turn that they have to come to a complete stop.

00:19:02.000 You're looking for that choke point where you can lay out the attack, where you control the environment, right?

00:19:09.000 There was a place in the Philippines that still exists.

00:19:11.000 We used to call it Ambush Alley, right? 0.94

00:19:13.000 Because you'd start at one end, you'd go to the other, and it was a cut-through.

00:19:17.000 There weren't that very many of them, and sometimes it was the only one to get from one part of the city to another.

00:19:23.000 And once you got in there, you know, you just hit the gas because you were a host.

00:19:27.000 If you got caught up in there and there was an insurgency going on, and so, you know, roadblocks and local hit teams, they call them sparrow units, were always a concern.

00:19:37.000 And so that was a choke point.

00:19:39.000 Ambush Alley was a choke point.

00:19:40.000 Anyway, long story short, they whacked this industrialist, but the hit team, after they'd done their surveillance and they decided where that point was for the attack...

00:19:49.000 They showed up one day in construction gear and construction uniforms and started digging a trench as a construction team, right?

00:19:57.000 You can look that.

00:19:57.000 You drive by and go, oh, they're building something or they're digging a trench, right?

00:20:00.000 It's cover for action.

00:20:03.000 And so it's the same.

00:20:04.000 I don't know how I'm making this analogy, but it's the same with the election.

00:20:08.000 Voters got to be able to look at it and go, it's transparent.

00:20:11.000 I see why it's transparent.

00:20:12.000 I can move on. 0.99

00:20:13.000 But you're talking about fuckery. 0.99

00:20:15.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:20:16.000 You're talking about them.

00:20:17.000 They did a bad job of hiding...

00:20:21.000 Corruption.

00:20:21.000 That's what you're saying.

00:20:23.000 You're saying cover for action is deceptive.

00:20:27.000 What you're describing is deceptive.

00:20:29.000 Well, what I'm saying is the system has to be clearly transparent and honest and credible.

00:20:39.000 Just from the voters' perspective.

00:20:41.000 You can't do shit like adjust the rules just because we say, ah, pandemic, now we've got to change the rules, and these states are going to change them, and these states won't, and this state has this. 0.54

00:20:50.000 How did you make the connection from that to cover for action? 0.97

00:20:55.000 Oh, I know.

00:20:57.000 Because you think like an operative.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, cover for action is because...

00:21:00.000 Sorry, I know.

00:21:03.000 Try being in my house.

00:21:04.000 Try being part of my family and following me at the dinner table.

00:21:08.000 It's because with cover for action, just like with looking at the voting and saying, okay, I see why it's transparent.

00:21:14.000 I see cover for action.

00:21:15.000 You got to look and go, okay, I get it.

00:21:16.000 That's what they're there for.

00:21:17.000 And you move on.

00:21:18.000 You don't think about it.

00:21:19.000 You don't have to be told.

00:21:20.000 You don't have to stop and go, excuse me, what are you doing here?

00:21:22.000 Right?

00:21:23.000 It's just evident on the face of it.

00:21:25.000 How are there not universal voting rules for each state that are federal?

00:21:31.000 How is it that different states are allowed to come up with their own rules?

00:21:35.000 Like, I was reading something about in Georgia, they were allowing people who had made mistakes on their ballots to redo their ballots.

00:21:45.000 And they called them curing the ballots?

00:21:49.000 Yeah.

00:21:49.000 You've got that.

00:21:50.000 What is that?

00:21:51.000 You've got the ability to change your vote, too, in some places.

00:21:53.000 What?

00:21:54.000 Yeah, you can change your vote up until the deadline of the election day.

00:21:59.000 There are some places where you can go in, you have to request it, and then you can change your vote.

00:22:07.000 Which, if you think about it, is not bad, because if on election day you wake up and you find out that the candidate you voted for has committed murder, then you think, okay, I'd like to change my vote.

00:22:15.000 Well, I think a lot of people did want to actually change their vote after the second Biden debate.

00:22:21.000 That was a big Google search.

00:22:24.000 God.

00:22:24.000 There was a thing that they were talking about, the Google searches for how to change your vote went up some astounding number.

00:22:31.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 Because you just had a really terrible debate.

00:22:34.000 No one has done worse on the campaign trail and won.

00:22:37.000 That's one thing.

00:22:38.000 I agree with you.

00:22:38.000 And more people vote in this election than have ever voted.

00:22:42.000 Yeah.

00:22:43.000 Since like the early 1900s or something, right?

00:22:46.000 Kamala Harris, I don't think.

00:22:48.000 Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I think we should fact check this.

00:22:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:51.000 I don't think she held a press conference during the entire campaign.

00:22:54.000 I don't think she had one single press conference.

00:22:57.000 She had appearances, but I don't think she actually held a press conference during the entire campaign.

00:23:02.000 That's astounding.

00:23:07.000 We're in this position that we're in right now in a variety of ways because of the pandemic.

00:23:14.000 For sure.

00:23:15.000 Yeah.

00:23:16.000 And also because the people that hate Trump really hate him.

00:23:21.000 I remember people not liking George Bush and maybe even hating George Bush, W, and even HW. But not like this.

00:23:30.000 This is a different level of hate.

00:23:32.000 But also, it's a different level of love.

00:23:35.000 They love him in a way that I don't ever remember seeing. 0.98

00:23:38.000 I don't remember seeing these fucking lines of cars that are miles long honking with signs for any other candidate other than Trump. 0.99

00:23:48.000 No. 0.99

00:23:49.000 Well, people used to go crazy over Millard Fillmore.

00:23:51.000 I remember that.

00:23:52.000 Who was that?

00:23:53.000 Oh, they loved Fillmore.

00:23:55.000 No, I don't.

00:23:55.000 You're joking?

00:23:56.000 I am joking.

00:23:56.000 That's a terrible joke.

00:23:58.000 How dare you?

00:23:58.000 I just went with it.

00:23:59.000 Maybe Ross Perot.

00:24:00.000 People were really into Perot.

00:24:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:02.000 But those are the same people that are now into QAnon.

00:24:06.000 Yeah.

00:24:07.000 Somebody sent me a video, I went down a QAnon rabbit hole last night, of how Trump has set up all the Dems, and this is a sting operation, and that there's, gotta forget what they were saying, that this is all, all of the ballots have been blockchained,

00:24:22.000 and...

00:24:23.000 Yeah, you heard this, Jamie?

00:24:25.000 Yeah, I found it.

00:24:26.000 Dig this up last night.

00:24:27.000 It's been going around for two years apparently and popped back up this week.

00:24:30.000 But the conversation that these two guys were having about it was like people that are really into comic books talking about their favorite characters.

00:24:40.000 It's so weird because it's clearly and this is not to disparage people that think there's something illegitimate about this election.

00:24:49.000 This is not what I'm talking about.

00:24:50.000 When I'm talking about people that are into certain conspiracy theories and QAnon is one of them Where it becomes a thing they're into.

00:24:59.000 Whether it's real or not, it's a thing they're into.

00:25:02.000 It's like you're in a club.

00:25:03.000 Yes.

00:25:03.000 And they're all in on this thing.

00:25:06.000 And they're constantly tuning into this thing to find out what the latest is.

00:25:10.000 It's almost like a serial show that you're reading about on message boards.

00:25:17.000 It's like he's making these little drops of information of what's going to happen, and then some people are experts on these drops.

00:25:24.000 It's like a Ponzi scheme.

00:25:25.000 You bring your friends in, and then you're a little bit higher up the chain in QAnon, and so you know a little bit more, and you've got more friends within it.

00:25:32.000 But it is...

00:25:33.000 It's strange.

00:25:34.000 It is strange.

00:25:36.000 I mean, look, this has surfaced a lot of weird...

00:25:41.000 Yeah.

00:25:55.000 If anyone's scored big out of this whole four-year run, and particularly this past year, it's got to be those guys.

00:26:02.000 And what is the Lincoln Project?

00:26:03.000 Well, there are some guys that claim to be Republicans, conservatives, and oh my God, we're horrified at the state of the Republican Party, and so we've set our line in the sand, and And never Trumpers, basically.

00:26:15.000 And so we're going to raise a lot of money, and we're going to fight this thing, and we're going to make sure that we fight for all the Democratic candidates, and we're going to get Trump out of there.

00:26:26.000 And yeah, of course, we're conservatives and Republicans, and we're going to do this because, hey, look, they didn't get jobs in the administration, right?

00:26:35.000 And so I have a feeling that part of this started when they didn't get enough hugs, right?

00:26:39.000 They didn't get what they wanted out of this.

00:26:42.000 Part of it maybe is they're actually legitimately upset with the administration over certain things, but I can't help but think that they just raised a lot of money.

00:26:53.000 I'd love to see how you do with charities.

00:26:55.000 You look and see what their spend is, how much of it goes to administration for the project, and how much of it actually goes and is used for things like actual ads.

00:27:04.000 I'd love to see how much money ended up in their pockets, because I guarantee you once this is over, if Biden wins, they'll somehow morph into something that now makes money by fighting some of the policies that the Biden White House wants to push out there.

00:27:19.000 But there's a lot of groups like that that have come out.

00:27:22.000 A lot of people spouting their self-righteousness over the idea that Trump's a terrible person.

00:27:30.000 I don't think he's a great person, right?

00:27:32.000 But we've talked about this before.

00:27:33.000 I don't think you need to actually like your president.

00:27:36.000 You need to like your policies and the operations that we're doing overseas and the things that we do.

00:27:42.000 Would I prefer a kinder, gentler, more eloquent—I don't know.

00:27:46.000 It's all touchy-feely, but I like the policies.

00:27:49.000 Did I dislike Trump enough to vote for the potential policies that are coming down the pike with a Biden White House?

00:27:57.000 And a Senate possibly controlled by the Democrats?

00:28:02.000 No, but then again, I voted for Kanye, so what do I know?

00:28:07.000 That's why figureheads are weird, right?

00:28:10.000 Because a figurehead could be polarizing, they could be someone that people love no matter what they do, and they could be someone that people hate no matter what they do.

00:28:20.000 And that's where it gets strange, where policies and the direction of a government It's attached to an individual personality.

00:28:28.000 Yeah, and we've definitely seen this more.

00:28:30.000 Like you said, it's got that, you know, as a lot of people on the left will say, it's got that cultish feel.

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 Because he does draw this animosity from the left, obviously, but yeah, it's this bizarre devotion that you get.

00:28:46.000 And I think it's not necessarily—a lot of the folks aren't necessarily— You know, devoted to Trump.

00:28:52.000 It's not that. 0.97

00:28:53.000 It's not a Jim Jones thing as much as they're devoted to the idea of waving the flag, of standing up for America, which is all good shit, right? 0.94

00:29:01.000 But you got to keep it in perspective, right? 0.92

00:29:05.000 And I just think we've lost perspective in a lot of things.

00:29:09.000 I mean...

00:29:11.000 You know, you talk to somebody on the left and they'll say, oh my god, it's the death of the republic we've been facing for the past four years.

00:29:16.000 It's the toughest time we've ever seen. 0.99

00:29:18.000 And you think, ah, fuck's sake. 0.98

00:29:19.000 Settle down. 1.00

00:29:20.000 Yeah, and then you just go to the right and they're like, oh my god, if Biden wins, you know, we're fucked. 1.00

00:29:25.000 Settle down. 0.99

00:29:25.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:29:26.000 Settle the fuck down. 1.00

00:29:28.000 Everybody, both sides. 0.99

00:29:30.000 Settle down.

00:29:30.000 Get into the center.

00:29:32.000 Get some work done.

00:29:33.000 I definitely think I like a good left-right, left-right.

00:29:35.000 I like that.

00:29:36.000 I like when the country goes left and the country goes right.

00:29:39.000 I just think it gives everybody a chance.

00:29:43.000 It settles everybody down.

00:29:45.000 And it also gives everybody a much clearer understanding of the reality of what it means to have someone as a president.

00:29:54.000 How much does it actually affect your day-to-day life?

00:29:56.000 Got it.

00:29:57.000 And what really affects your day-to-day life is what you were talking about earlier, the actual policies. 1.00

00:30:01.000 Whether Trump's an asshole or not, the real problem with having an asshole for a president is it encourages other assholes to be assholes. 1.00

00:30:08.000 And this is the first time there's ever been a president that actually encouraged assholishness. 1.00

00:30:14.000 I mean, he came out last night, this press conference, which a lot of people were horrified by, and then a lot of people got on the right and kind of cheered.

00:30:22.000 I think his first sentence out of the gate in the midst of all this sort of concern and chaos and the angst from everybody was, look, if you just count the legal votes, I have won easily.

00:30:33.000 Okay.

00:30:34.000 All right.

00:30:35.000 You know what?

00:30:36.000 It's not necessary.

00:30:37.000 You don't have to do that.

00:30:39.000 You can say, you know, this is still being contested.

00:30:43.000 Yeah.

00:30:44.000 That doesn't help anybody.

00:30:46.000 We're concerned about some potential irregularities, but don't just start throwing shit at the wall because it demeans the whole process.

00:30:52.000 And so anyway, and that's where it all falls apart. 0.71

00:30:55.000 People start losing that credibility or that belief in the system.

00:30:58.000 But then again...

00:31:01.000 If you've spent four years attacking the credibility of the system by saying it was the Russians that put him in there, and then talking about all this other shit about, oh, he may never leave, and they were accusing him over the past couple of years. 0.97

00:31:14.000 I'll bet he's going to try to steal the election. 0.99

00:31:17.000 And so now when the other side's like, ah, we're kind of concerned about some of the things we're seeing, they're like, oh, for fuck's sake. 0.99

00:31:22.000 Don't be... 0.99

00:31:23.000 Can't we just all get along?

00:31:24.000 Is anybody accusing the Republicans of voter fraud in the states that Trump won?

00:31:32.000 Yeah.

00:31:33.000 That's a good question.

00:31:34.000 I have not seen anything related to that.

00:31:36.000 I haven't seen that either.

00:31:37.000 How come?

00:31:37.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 You know, probably because those states don't matter.

00:31:42.000 I hate to say it that way.

00:31:44.000 How dare you?

00:31:45.000 I know.

00:31:46.000 Talking about Texas.

00:31:47.000 You're in Texas, sir.

00:31:48.000 No, Texas mattered.

00:31:49.000 Are you kidding me?

00:31:50.000 Texas mattered.

00:31:50.000 But Trump won Texas.

00:31:52.000 Is there any talk of...

00:31:54.000 But the expectation was that he would.

00:31:56.000 Even though there was this talk about there's going to be this...

00:31:59.000 Right, like no one's talking about voter fraud in California for Biden.

00:32:01.000 Right.

00:32:02.000 Or, you know, it's, oh my god, there's something hinkies going on in Mississippi, right? 0.99

00:32:07.000 So that doesn't happen, but I think, look, the polls got it all wrong.

00:32:12.000 The only time the pundits were right, I think, is when they were citing that, look, it's going to come down to a handful of important states, and they usually would cite Pennsylvania and Georgia.

00:32:22.000 And Florida.

00:32:23.000 And Florida, Arizona.

00:32:24.000 So they got that right.

00:32:27.000 Everything else they got wrong again.

00:32:33.000 But, again, whether there is or isn't, if you've got legitimate grievance, if you've got potential evidence, and you can look at a place like Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, if you've got a few thousand Ballots that are in question because it appears that either they weren't residents of the state or perhaps they died some time ago.

00:32:54.000 Is that true?

00:32:55.000 Is that what's going on right now?

00:32:56.000 That's what they're claiming.

00:32:57.000 That's what they're claiming.

00:32:58.000 Who's they?

00:32:59.000 The Republican Party.

00:33:00.000 And they've filed a suit and they've submitted documentation supposedly to the DOJ about these ballots.

00:33:06.000 But I guess my point is whether it is or isn't, if that's potentially a legitimate concern, It's not going to turn things.

00:33:12.000 It's not going to change anything.

00:33:14.000 The vote count's not going to be big enough to change Nevada's decision, likely.

00:33:19.000 So if there is fraud, the numbers are not enough to be relevant to the overall count.

00:33:25.000 Right, which is the issue in most of these places.

00:33:28.000 You're not really going to overturn...

00:33:30.000 100,000 votes.

00:33:32.000 No.

00:33:32.000 And it's not going to happen in Philadelphia if you say, okay, we're going to toss out these 700 ballots or whatever.

00:33:40.000 But I think it is important, again, going back to this idea that you've got to maintain faith in the system by showing people that it's credible.

00:33:48.000 So if there are irregularities, just like the Dems did in 2000, and just like in other elections, it's not uncommon at all to have a contested election result in this country.

00:34:00.000 The law accounts for it. 0.94

00:34:02.000 And so, go after that, explain what you're doing, be transparent what you're doing, and then for fuck's sake, learn from it for the next one around, right? 0.97

00:34:10.000 Make these changes. 0.93

00:34:12.000 And maybe this was an anomaly because of the pandemic and we're never ever going to see this many mail-in ballots again.

00:34:17.000 I just find it hilarious whenever I say that people should be able to vote online because you could bank online.

00:34:22.000 Like, no, there's too much room for fraud.

00:34:24.000 As opposed to what?

00:34:25.000 Stacks of paper that people can count? 1.00

00:34:28.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:34:29.000 It seems like you can get a code that is unique to you, like a QR code or some biometric code that's based on your FaceTime or your fingerprint if you have an Android phone. 1.00

00:34:43.000 And it will 100% prove that it's you, and you can fucking vote off your phone. 0.89

00:34:48.000 That seems pretty easy to me. 0.99

00:34:50.000 I don't get it.

00:34:51.000 We should be able to come up with a better system, and you're right.

00:34:55.000 The problem with this was, again, it wasn't explained well enough.

00:35:00.000 And so you have the perception, whether it's existing, whether it's happening or not, you have this perception of fraud. 0.87

00:35:07.000 And social media just pumps the shit out of this and causes this problem in a major way. 0.81

00:35:13.000 You've got these videos now that are floating around Twitter and elsewhere of ballot workers working at polling stations filling out ballots. 0.70

00:35:25.000 And so they'll just like lock in.

00:35:27.000 They'll take 10 seconds of somebody taking an empty ballot, stamping it, filling it out, and then putting it in the box and taking another one, stamping it, filling it out.

00:35:37.000 And people will go, oh my god, they're falsifying ballots.

00:35:41.000 They're just creating ballots out of whole cloth.

00:35:43.000 And then that'll blast around. 0.98

00:35:45.000 And before you know it, you got like 100,000 people retweeting this bullshit without investigating it, going back to what I said before. 1.00

00:35:53.000 You can't build your argument on shit. 1.00

00:35:56.000 Now, if that's a problem, fine, investigate it. 0.99

00:35:58.000 But you also have to look at what are the other scenarios.

00:36:00.000 Well, maybe these are all ballots that wouldn't fit through the scanner or that got kicked out.

00:36:05.000 And so now what do they got to do?

00:36:06.000 They got to put them onto a new ballot, run it through, or whatever.

00:36:09.000 I mean, that happens, right?

00:36:11.000 That's a thing.

00:36:12.000 I don't understand what you're saying.

00:36:13.000 If someone is writing, is the person in front of them who filled out the ballot with them?

00:36:18.000 No.

00:36:18.000 Okay, so if someone fills out a ballot and there's an issue with that ballot, then you allow a worker to make a copy of that ballot?

00:36:28.000 Under observation.

00:36:29.000 Under observation by who?

00:36:31.000 Campaign.

00:36:32.000 I'm not a polling expert.

00:36:33.000 That's the thing, though.

00:36:35.000 If he's filling it out for a Republican, is it a Democrat over his shoulder to make sure that...

00:36:39.000 You're supposed to have...

00:36:41.000 One of each?

00:36:41.000 One of each, yeah.

00:36:42.000 You're supposed to have...

00:36:43.000 Both parties have the ability to have them in there.

00:36:44.000 Both driving Ferraris afterwards.

00:36:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:36:47.000 So I guess my point is, whether it's that or this, you can't just assume that the shit that you see—how do we not know this, right? 0.97

00:36:56.000 By now, the shit that you see on social media, you should probably question it and at least do your own research and find out whether it's true before you then kick it back out or talk about it like it's gospel. 0.97

00:37:05.000 Here's what I'm ready to talk about like it's gospel, even though I have no evidence whatsoever, because people keep saying it to me over and over again. 0.99

00:37:11.000 In Wisconsin, 100,000 votes came in for Biden overnight, and they were 100% for Biden.

00:37:18.000 They were for no one else.

00:37:20.000 Is that true?

00:37:21.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:37:22.000 No, I've heard that.

00:37:23.000 I've heard that.

00:37:23.000 I don't know whether it's true or not.

00:37:25.000 Sounds like a QAnon video.

00:37:26.000 Yeah, it does.

00:37:27.000 It does.

00:37:28.000 But they've got the blockchain.

00:37:29.000 Don't worry.

00:37:29.000 Trump is on the case.

00:37:30.000 Statistically, it would seem surprising.

00:37:32.000 I mean, you've got 89% or 90% voter turnout in particular areas.

00:37:36.000 You think, that's pretty damn high.

00:37:38.000 And again, those are the things that, fine.

00:37:41.000 Let the system work.

00:37:43.000 Let the legal teams do it, because they're citing it, they're looking at it too.

00:37:46.000 Right, but they think it's too late.

00:37:48.000 The issue is, you know, like, I was talking to someone who understands these things very well, and they were describing it to me, that when the 2000 election came along with Bush and Gore, that Bush had fantastic lawyers,

00:38:04.000 like the cream of the crop.

00:38:06.000 And that is not the case right now with this scenario where they're dealing with legal fraud or the potential for fraud.

00:38:14.000 I don't know.

00:38:15.000 I would say...

00:38:16.000 No, Joe Biden did not get 100%.

00:38:18.000 Who made this, Jamie?

00:38:20.000 Snopes?

00:38:20.000 No, local Milwaukee.

00:38:21.000 More communist bullshit. 1.00

00:38:23.000 Is this from Vox? 1.00

00:38:24.000 Yeah.

00:38:24.000 What is this from?

00:38:25.000 Local Milwaukee news station.

00:38:26.000 They're probably communists.

00:38:28.000 I'm sure. 1.00

00:38:29.000 Fucking local Milwaukee. 1.00

00:38:30.000 Get out of here. 1.00

00:38:32.000 No, Joe Biden did not get 100% of all Milwaukee absentee ballots.

00:38:36.000 But that's not what the claim was.

00:38:40.000 The claim was a bunch came overnight and that they were 100% for Biden.

00:38:45.000 So that could still be true and they could still say that he did not get 100% of all absentee ballots.

00:38:52.000 Because that's not what the claim was.

00:38:54.000 So that communist newspaper that you just read from that hates America.

00:38:59.000 Don't move it yet.

00:38:59.000 Look over there.

00:39:00.000 The Federalist.

00:39:01.000 Yes.

00:39:01.000 This is the headline.

00:39:02.000 Yes.

00:39:03.000 Democrats are trying to steal the election in Michigan and Wisconsin.

00:39:06.000 Okay.

00:39:06.000 Read The Federalist because those are good Americans.

00:39:08.000 Yeah.

00:39:09.000 Take care.

00:39:11.000 Well, that's what was supposed to be happening.

00:39:13.000 As of this writing, it appears that the Democratic Party machines in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania are trying to steal the election.

00:39:21.000 As reporters and commentators went to bed early Tuesday morning, all three states were too close to call.

00:39:25.000 But President Trump led former Vice President Joe Biden by comfortable margins.

00:39:29.000 Far beyond what had been predicted in the polls.

00:39:31.000 None of the networks called these states because enough mail-in ballots remained uncounted that it could swing either way.

00:39:37.000 But Trump's position looked good. 0.97

00:39:39.000 But here's what's wrong with that, and this is what Kyle Kalinsky explained to us, that mail-in ballots were overwhelmingly Democrat because Democrats tend to be pussies who are scared to go there in person because they don't want to get coughs. 0.98

00:39:51.000 Is that correct? 0.98

00:39:53.000 Is that what he said?

00:39:54.000 There's also something I was hearing that...

00:39:55.000 I made that up.

00:39:56.000 It was a Republican, like...

00:39:57.000 No one even cares.

00:39:58.000 They all wanted to push for one day.

00:40:00.000 They wanted to do it all in one day.

00:40:01.000 They didn't want to vote early.

00:40:02.000 It's like a sense of pride type thing.

00:40:05.000 Well, look, Trump did, you know, make a big deal about telling his supporters, show up on the day, right?

00:40:10.000 I'm a vote-in-person kind of guy.

00:40:12.000 I'm old school.

00:40:13.000 I like that.

00:40:13.000 I show up.

00:40:14.000 You do that.

00:40:14.000 It feels good.

00:40:16.000 Someone announces, yeah, Mike Baker has voted, you know, and you get your sticker, right?

00:40:20.000 I was going to put my sticker and take a picture, but I'm like, no. 0.99

00:40:22.000 Once Chelsea Handler put them on her tits, I'm like, we're done here. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Yeah, nobody wanted that. 1.00

00:40:27.000 Nobody needed to see that shit. 1.00

00:40:28.000 She put them as pasties. 1.00

00:40:30.000 It's a creative move.

00:40:31.000 It gets people to pay attention.

00:40:35.000 I'm sorry, I was joking around about the Federalists.

00:40:38.000 Go back to that article, because what this guy is getting wrong is that...

00:40:44.000 Yes, Trump had a lead, but they were counting the in-person votes first, and then they counted the mail-in votes.

00:40:50.000 The mail-in votes were already overwhelmingly slanted towards Democrats.

00:40:57.000 Because some of these states, and again, some of them with Republican statehouses, that was the regulation or the law that they put in place, was that you can't count those votes early, the mail-ins, I mean.

00:41:07.000 You can't vote them early.

00:41:08.000 So yeah, part of the problem was people went to bed.

00:41:11.000 On Tuesday night, thinking, well, look at this.

00:41:13.000 Trump's gonna...

00:41:14.000 Right.

00:41:15.000 And it's like going to bed because you think the game's all locked up.

00:41:18.000 Exactly. 0.96

00:41:18.000 You wake up in the morning and you get screwed. 0.96

00:41:21.000 Like that Super Bowl a few years ago when they won it in the last... 0.93

00:41:24.000 Yes.

00:41:24.000 It's the only one I left.

00:41:25.000 I left the Super Bowl party. 0.97

00:41:26.000 I was like, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.93

00:41:28.000 This game's over. 0.98

00:41:29.000 They won it.

00:41:30.000 Yeah, they won it in overtime.

00:41:31.000 The thing about all this stuff is that people want the narrative to fit with how they feel it should have gone.

00:41:40.000 So they feel it should have gone to Trump.

00:41:42.000 So someone's trying to steal the election.

00:41:44.000 Right.

00:41:44.000 Instead of, no, they're counting mail-in ballots later.

00:41:49.000 There is a weird thing with the Democrats wanting mail-in ballots.

00:41:52.000 It's almost like wanting to mail them in is also sort of a political statement in regards to the handling of the pandemic by the Republican president. 0.99

00:42:03.000 Those are the same people that have their fucking Twitter profile picture with a mask on. 0.99

00:42:08.000 Hey, stop. 1.00

00:42:10.000 Just stop.

00:42:12.000 It's my mask of righteousness.

00:42:13.000 You got a selfie with a mask on? 1.00

00:42:15.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:42:16.000 You know what you're doing. 1.00

00:42:17.000 That's a weird political statement.

00:42:19.000 Isn't it weird? 1.00

00:42:20.000 I don't mean fuck you. 1.00

00:42:21.000 I'm getting aggressive. 0.99

00:42:23.000 I didn't mean it. 0.92

00:42:24.000 I'm just being silly.

00:42:25.000 People think I'm serious sometimes.

00:42:26.000 I have to be careful. 1.00

00:42:30.000 He said fuck people who wear masks. 1.00

00:42:32.000 Oh my god, he's an anti-masker. 1.00

00:42:35.000 Anti-masker is a new thing, I think.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, I gotta tell you, look, I think it's a simple thing, put on a mask, but you're right, there are people who wear it proudly, like the early days of adopting and driving a Prius, right?

00:42:48.000 They're doing it.

00:42:49.000 I've seen people do podcasts with a mask on. 1.00

00:42:51.000 F-f [...]-fuck you! 1.00

00:42:54.000 And he doesn't mean that. 1.00

00:42:55.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:42:56.000 I do mean that. 1.00

00:42:57.000 For podcasters, I do mean that.

00:43:00.000 Especially when they're doing it by themselves.

00:43:01.000 There's no one in the room.

00:43:02.000 You got a mask on?

00:43:03.000 I've seen that.

00:43:04.000 Or there's someone in other rooms nowhere near you and you're wearing a mask.

00:43:07.000 It's a political statement.

00:43:09.000 It's a thing.

00:43:10.000 You're showing that you are a responsible person.

00:43:13.000 It's a way of flying your flag of virtue.

00:43:16.000 I am wearing a mask.

00:43:17.000 I'm not one of those...

00:43:19.000 Like, if you see those people that get in fights at Walmart because they don't want to wear... 1.00

00:43:22.000 You're infringing on my It's always the worst fucking human beings. 0.97

00:43:27.000 The people that represent not wearing a mask are never exemplary, like scholarly, brilliant people who are like, well, the reality is about virus particles and the size of these particles. 0.99

00:43:38.000 It's preposterous.

00:43:40.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:43:41.000 Also, I've been tested and it's my risk.

00:43:44.000 You have a very strict testing regime here.

00:43:47.000 You guys probably tested more, frankly, than anybody else.

00:43:50.000 Dude, I was tested last night and then I got tested again this morning.

00:43:55.000 So I was tested last night at the governor's mansion.

00:43:57.000 I met the governor.

00:43:59.000 Hung out with the governor.

00:44:00.000 That's good news.

00:44:01.000 Governor Abbott's a cool guy.

00:44:02.000 He's a legitimately nice guy.

00:44:04.000 I really enjoyed his company.

00:44:05.000 I like him a lot.

00:44:07.000 And then I got tested again this morning.

00:44:09.000 So I get tested all the time.

00:44:11.000 Constantly. 0.99

00:44:12.000 But that's why we wear no masks and we can talk shit. 0.99

00:44:15.000 And when young Jamie fucked off because he decided to go party, He did not. 0.99

00:44:20.000 He was at a disco. 0.99

00:44:22.000 What?

00:44:22.000 He was at a disco screaming.

00:44:23.000 They still have a disco?

00:44:25.000 Screaming.

00:44:25.000 He was raving.

00:44:26.000 I think he was at a rave.

00:44:28.000 That's a roller derby. 1.00

00:44:30.000 We should actually clarify this, because if it was a disco, we need to talk about that more.

00:44:34.000 No, he went to a bar, and he was out on a patio, and he got the vid.

00:44:38.000 Oh.

00:44:40.000 But you were barely sick.

00:44:42.000 You were sick for a day.

00:44:43.000 When you came in, he was really convinced that it was some sort of allergy.

00:44:47.000 So how long did you have before you got tested?

00:44:50.000 Well, we tested him.

00:44:52.000 I was off.

00:44:53.000 No, we were off that week, remember?

00:44:55.000 So it was quite a while.

00:44:57.000 So there was a week where I was elk hunting.

00:44:59.000 So we were gone, and Jamie probably got it the weekend I left and didn't feel bad until three or four days later.

00:45:10.000 And then by the time we came in, it was a good seven days, right?

00:45:14.000 Something like that?

00:45:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I didn't even feel sick that day.

00:45:17.000 I was like, I'm...

00:45:18.000 Yeah.

00:45:19.000 When he tested positive...

00:45:20.000 No temperature?

00:45:21.000 I don't think so.

00:45:21.000 I mean, it's hard to tell.

00:45:23.000 It's hot as shit here. 0.97

00:45:24.000 I was worried, though, that we were going to have to shut... 0.99

00:45:26.000 That was true. 0.99

00:45:27.000 It is hot as shit. 0.99

00:45:27.000 I was worried that we were going to have to shut the show down, but the doctor informed me that Since I never was really close to him, we made him sit in the corner like a dunce. 0.99

00:45:36.000 And after we found out that he had the cooties, and we tested him again, he failed the second test.

00:45:42.000 Did you think about firing him at that point? 0.99

00:45:44.000 No fucking way. 1.00

00:45:45.000 That's it, you're done. 1.00

00:45:46.000 No way, because I could have caught it too.

00:45:49.000 I was in D.C. We were filming for a Discovery series called What on Earth?

00:45:55.000 And the film crew for this series is usually from England.

00:46:00.000 Do they quarantine people?

00:46:01.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:02.000 Those guys go through the protocols, right?

00:46:04.000 Yeah.

00:46:04.000 I mean, listen, I believe...

00:46:06.000 I understand how they would do that for a film or a production, but for a podcast, it goes on all year.

00:46:12.000 There's no way I can tell people what to do with their life, especially when I go to restaurants and stuff, and I wear a mask.

00:46:18.000 I joke around about masks.

00:46:19.000 People are like, he's an anti-masker. 1.00

00:46:21.000 I wear a mask every fucking day. 1.00

00:46:23.000 I wear it all the time. 1.00

00:46:25.000 But I do think there's something silly about it.

00:46:28.000 Yeah.

00:46:29.000 Well, again, it makes...

00:46:30.000 Look, it's like a lot of things in life, right?

00:46:32.000 It makes you feel like you're doing something.

00:46:33.000 It makes you feel good.

00:46:35.000 It makes other people feel comfortable.

00:46:37.000 That's why I wear it.

00:46:37.000 Exactly.

00:46:38.000 I'm the same way.

00:46:39.000 I think it's a little thing.

00:46:41.000 If other people are happy, do I think it's necessarily going to stop?

00:46:43.000 No.

00:46:44.000 But I'm happy to do it because it makes other people comfortable.

00:46:48.000 I think some of the...

00:46:50.000 Listen, Mr. We're virologists.

00:46:52.000 I know.

00:46:53.000 Some of the virus is stopped by that mask.

00:46:56.000 It has to be.

00:46:57.000 There's a filter.

00:47:00.000 Some of it can get out.

00:47:02.000 If someone gets a smaller dose of the virus, it's probably less detrimental to their health.

00:47:08.000 That's probably the argument for it.

00:47:10.000 Someone told me that being on a plane is actually very safe because of the way they filter the air.

00:47:15.000 It's true.

00:47:15.000 I've felt, ever since I've been flying for a while now, I've been back and forth to London and traveling around out to Los Angeles.

00:47:22.000 You can go to London right now?

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 When did they open that up again?

00:47:25.000 Well, not right now.

00:47:25.000 They shut it down until the 2nd of December again.

00:47:28.000 This is their second hardcore lockdown.

00:47:31.000 Some parts of England were under what they call a Tier 3, up north in Manchester, that area.

00:47:37.000 So now it's problematic.

00:47:39.000 I know Greece was allowing American travelers for a while.

00:47:43.000 Get this, China has banned visitors from England.

00:47:47.000 From England?

00:47:48.000 Yeah, China said, oh my god, no, you guys are too infectious. 0.96

00:47:52.000 What about America?

00:47:53.000 No, that might be a bridge too far for Xi, but he's okay with banning the UK residents.

00:47:58.000 But anyway, to your point, I felt for quite a while now the safest place to be is on a plane.

00:48:05.000 I got on a plane coming from Heathrow to New York City a handful of weeks ago.

00:48:11.000 And there were, I don't know, six or seven other people on this plane.

00:48:16.000 It's a big plane, right?

00:48:17.000 And there was almost nobody on this thing.

00:48:19.000 Do they allow people to take their mask off while they eat?

00:48:22.000 They do.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:24.000 Do you have to take it off, like Governor Newsom style, take it off in between bites and put it back on?

00:48:30.000 That's what he wants you to do?

00:48:31.000 I saw that.

00:48:31.000 That's fantastic.

00:48:33.000 He's a gem.

00:48:34.000 Yeah, he's doing wonders out there in California.

00:48:37.000 He's a gem of preposterousness.

00:48:40.000 But no, you can actually remove your...

00:48:43.000 Mask.

00:48:43.000 You can wear it as a one-ear earring hanging dangling from your ear.

00:48:47.000 It's a new fashion statement.

00:48:48.000 It is.

00:48:50.000 I saw President Biden doing that.

00:48:52.000 A lot of people wear them in between meals.

00:48:54.000 They put it on their wrist while they're eating.

00:48:57.000 They put it on their wrist, and they put it back on their face.

00:49:00.000 That's a new thing.

00:49:00.000 It is amazing how it's become normal.

00:49:04.000 I was thinking about that yesterday, walking around the airport, looking around.

00:49:07.000 Yeah, quick.

00:49:08.000 And people all...

00:49:09.000 And it used to be, right, that if you saw, this is going to sound wrong, but if you saw someone wearing a mask, it was probably somebody from Japan or Korea or somewhere, right?

00:49:18.000 I mean, it was like that, because it's a little more common over there.

00:49:20.000 Or someone trying to rob somebody.

00:49:22.000 Well, there's that.

00:49:23.000 Yeah.

00:49:24.000 What was the last time you walked into a bank wearing a mask, right?

00:49:26.000 You know what's weird is how many people can recognize you with a mask on.

00:49:31.000 Isn't that weird?

00:49:32.000 Yeah.

00:49:33.000 So you, I mean, people have actually done that with you?

00:49:35.000 They said, yeah.

00:49:39.000 You're ready to jack a car in that situation.

00:49:42.000 Yeah.

00:49:43.000 Hey, Joe Rogan.

00:49:43.000 But there'll be some fan.

00:49:45.000 The police won't have any clue who it was, but there'll be some fan that'll go, that's Joe.

00:49:50.000 Yeah, I don't...

00:49:51.000 Again, I'm confused over...

00:49:53.000 I will say there's a class of mask wearers I'm confused over.

00:49:55.000 Those are the ones who you'll see are in their car by themselves driving with a mask on.

00:50:00.000 You shouldn't be allowed to vote.

00:50:02.000 Yeah, you shouldn't be.

00:50:03.000 If you're driving in your car...

00:50:04.000 You have no say over anything. 1.00

00:50:06.000 If you're in your fucking car with rubber gloves on and a mask, you stop. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Or if you're out running or biking with a mask on. 0.99

00:50:13.000 Well, I think some people do that for courteous sake because I have...

00:50:16.000 Bridget Phetasy was telling me that she was walking down the street on the other side of the street. 0.99

00:50:22.000 She was on one sidewalk, someone was on the other side.

00:50:24.000 She was walking her dog and someone was screaming at her to put a mask on.

00:50:28.000 I put a mask on the dog.

00:50:30.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 No, I mean, I get that.

00:50:32.000 If you're running, obviously, if you're running and you're- You're breathing heavy.

00:50:36.000 But I'm talking about people that are running in areas, like around us, we got the foothills, right?

00:50:40.000 Right.

00:50:40.000 You go up in the foothills, you can run and not see anybody.

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:42.000 But I've seen people up there running, and it's not like you're running downtown New York City where you're passing people constantly, and like you said, you're breathing heavy.

00:50:50.000 It's just- And, you know, or you're on an obvious, on a long, you know, 20 mile bike ride because you got your spandex on.

00:50:56.000 You're going for a big pedal and you got your mask on.

00:50:59.000 I'm thinking, it's probably, A, it's probably not necessary and B, it's probably not that healthy.

00:51:04.000 Well, you know what a training mask is?

00:51:07.000 It's like an oxygen depletion mask that guys would wear.

00:51:11.000 Right, to try to pump up your volume.

00:51:12.000 Super controversial. 1.00

00:51:14.000 Some people say it's horse shit. 1.00

00:51:15.000 It doesn't do a goddamn thing for you. 1.00

00:51:16.000 Some people say it's very good for you, and by being able to work hard with very little oxygen, it expands your cardiovascular potential. 0.97

00:51:25.000 Mm-hmm.

00:51:26.000 I mean, I think it all comes down to what you were saying.

00:51:28.000 You know, it's a little thing in life to bend your spear over, right?

00:51:31.000 To be like an anti-masker. 1.00

00:51:34.000 They're all assholes. 1.00

00:51:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:36.000 It just doesn't make sense. 1.00

00:51:37.000 Everyone who's on a plane who gets kicked off for not wearing a mask, you just go, you know those guys.

00:51:42.000 You know those guys.

00:51:43.000 They exist. 1.00

00:51:45.000 They're fucking annoying. 0.99

00:51:46.000 It's not that hard, man. 1.00

00:51:48.000 Put a mask on.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, nobody's taking away your freedoms.

00:51:50.000 Just put your mask on.

00:51:52.000 I agree, but there is always that element of I'm standing up to the man or odious government control. 0.99

00:52:03.000 It's ridiculous. 0.79

00:52:04.000 But on the other hand, the people that make a big deal of the fact they're wearing a mask are equally annoying. 0.94

00:52:10.000 Not equally.

00:52:12.000 Slightly less annoying than the anti-mask people. 0.83

00:52:14.000 One thing this whole process has taught me is that I find the most annoying people I think exist out there are really, really self-righteous, progressive white people. 0.95

00:52:25.000 Oh my god. 0.95

00:52:26.000 Yeah, that demographic, right?

00:52:28.000 I mean, the one thing I can say is I can't stand that group, right?

00:52:34.000 And now, again, you could say the same thing about the hard side on the right, right?

00:52:40.000 I mean, there's just...

00:52:42.000 Both those people.

00:52:43.000 And they probably have more in common than we think, right?

00:52:46.000 For sure.

00:52:46.000 It's an ideology.

00:52:48.000 You want people to know where you stand on something, and you believe that where you stand makes you more virtuous.

00:52:57.000 Yes.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, that's a very eloquent way of putting it. 1.00

00:53:00.000 And you want to kick them in the balls. 1.00

00:53:01.000 All of them. 1.00

00:53:02.000 You just want to run up to them, shut your fucking dirty, stinky mouth. 1.00

00:53:08.000 You're annoying. 1.00

00:53:09.000 You ruin all these good causes.

00:53:11.000 That's the problem with all these great causes.

00:53:13.000 There's some amazing causes that I support, but they're also supported by twats.

00:53:18.000 And these guys that are just the most annoying liberals.

00:53:23.000 Well, that's like the BLM movement, right? 0.94

00:53:25.000 I mean, are there legitimate things you could be doing to push forward with police reform that make sense, right?

00:53:33.000 The training and the – but you got to fund them, right?

00:53:37.000 You actually got to get them better, less than lethal weaponry, the hiring and the vetting.

00:53:42.000 But the movement gets hijacked in part by this group that just wants to feel good about themselves.

00:53:50.000 Do you see the girl in Brooklyn the other day that spit in the cop's face?

00:53:53.000 Yes. 1.00

00:53:53.000 She's yelling at him, you fucking fascist. 1.00

00:53:55.000 Then she spit in his face. 1.00

00:53:56.000 Yeah.

00:53:56.000 And then he's like, thank you.

00:53:58.000 That's assault.

00:53:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:00.000 Arrest her. 1.00

00:54:00.000 She's like, what are you doing? 1.00

00:54:01.000 You can't just spit in someone's face.

00:54:03.000 Not only that, he wasn't even saying anything to you.

00:54:06.000 No, he's just standing there. 1.00

00:54:07.000 He's standing there, and she's losing her shit. 0.99

00:54:10.000 Young kids like that who've never been held up at gunpoint, who've never been robbed. 0.99

00:54:14.000 I don't know if she's ever been robbed.

00:54:15.000 Maybe she has.

00:54:16.000 Maybe she's just really hardcore. 1.00

00:54:19.000 She's been robbed, and she's like, I prefer the fucking thieves to the police. 1.00

00:54:25.000 But it's just this thing where you're supposed to hate the cops because of George Floyd or because of a number of other incidents that have nothing to do with that guy. 0.99

00:54:34.000 It's like you can't hate any group of people because of someone that is not...

00:54:44.000 Right.

00:54:45.000 Right.

00:54:51.000 Yeah. 0.83

00:55:01.000 It's the same thing with a firefighter that starts fires because he's crazy. 1.00

00:55:05.000 You don't go spitting in another firefighter's face because my fucking dog burnt to death in a fire, you piece of shit. 1.00

00:55:11.000 You're like, hey, I fight fires! 1.00

00:55:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:13.000 Jesus Christ!

00:55:14.000 But we don't...

00:55:15.000 Again, it's this idea that somehow we're...

00:55:18.000 But it's like all groups.

00:55:19.000 Look, how many doctors have put people under sedation and then molested them? 1.00

00:55:25.000 A fucking lot, man. 0.99

00:55:27.000 A lot. 1.00

00:55:27.000 There's a lot of cases. 1.00

00:55:29.000 I didn't know there was an epidemic of that.

00:55:30.000 It's not an epidemic, but there's enough so that if you Google it, you'll find many, many, many cases where people lost their license to practice, got sued, went to jail. 1.00

00:55:41.000 But you don't look at every doctor and go, you piece of shit. 1.00

00:55:44.000 I got molested by a doctor. 1.00

00:55:46.000 You fucking asshole. 1.00

00:55:48.000 And no one's under more pressure for fear of their life in a civilian society than a cop. 1.00

00:55:55.000 No one.

00:55:56.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:55:57.000 We don't understand.

00:55:58.000 Other than maybe a black guy who gets pulled over by a cop. 0.62

00:56:01.000 You can make that argument. 0.91

00:56:03.000 Yeah, you can.

00:56:06.000 So they got a lot in common is what you're saying.

00:56:09.000 Yes, exactly.

00:56:09.000 They're both scared.

00:56:11.000 No, nobody ever puts... 0.73

00:56:12.000 I mean, if you're a state trooper and you pull somebody over on the highway and you're walking up there, you have no idea what the fuck's about to happen.

00:56:18.000 Especially if he's got no plates. 0.79

00:56:19.000 Right, right.

00:56:20.000 Jesus Christ.

00:56:21.000 But again, it's this idea that it's all or nothing, right?

00:56:25.000 Yeah.

00:56:25.000 And part of that is just the...

00:56:28.000 The lack of empathy part of it is the way that we're processing information and that fucking social media. 0.98

00:56:34.000 That's a big part of it. 0.99

00:56:35.000 That's a big part of it.

00:56:36.000 A big part of it is also what you're talking about with people being self-righteous.

00:56:41.000 They're self-righteous all day long on Twitter and they're arguing with people about it and they're finding people that agree with them and everybody's competing for likes.

00:56:50.000 Social media has ruined discourse but it's also enhanced it.

00:56:54.000 It's done both.

00:56:55.000 No, it is.

00:56:55.000 I'm not a Luddite.

00:56:56.000 I'm not saying it's terrible.

00:56:57.000 I'm just saying that there is a downside that we don't seem to be dealing with very well.

00:57:03.000 Look, I mean, right after this happened, right?

00:57:05.000 So once it became clear that there was not going to be a blue wave and that Biden wasn't going to ride in on it and that the House wasn't going to flip a bunch of Republican seats and they weren't going to take the Senate, right away...

00:57:17.000 If you kind of canvassed what was going on in social media, people were like, well, this just cements it then.

00:57:24.000 This is clear that it wasn't just an anomaly in 2016. This just cements that half of America is a bunch of shitheads, right? 0.99

00:57:31.000 I mean, that was the general tone from some folks out in social media just saying, well, clearly they're either stupid or they're bad people or they're both because they don't agree with me. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:57:43.000 When the fuck did that happen? 0.98

00:57:45.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:57:46.000 There's a lot of things that people are voting for.

00:57:48.000 They're not just voting one guy bad, one guy good.

00:57:52.000 That's not what's going on.

00:57:53.000 There's a lot of economic policies.

00:57:55.000 They're dealing with support for the military.

00:57:56.000 That's a giant factor with a lot of people.

00:57:59.000 Look, for a lot of my friends who are veterans who are either in the military or have been in the military, that is the number one reason why they voted for Trump.

00:58:09.000 And, you know, for Tim Kennedy, that's why he re-enlisted.

00:58:12.000 He re-enlisted because he knew that the military was getting more support and that the funding for the military was going to increase substantially and they were going to get to take care of things that were stagnant for a long time.

00:58:24.000 And he came on the podcast and talked about it, how they basically squashed ISIS in under a year.

00:58:30.000 And it was going on forever before that.

00:58:32.000 And they were spreading to Boko Haram and all throughout Africa.

00:58:36.000 And it was getting scary.

00:58:38.000 And funding increased substantially.

00:58:40.000 Support increased substantially.

00:58:42.000 They got what they needed and they got the job done. 0.92

00:58:44.000 That for a lot of guys, they're not assholes. 0.77

00:58:48.000 They just support the military. 0.71

00:58:50.000 And they know that there was one candidate that was making a big push to support the military.

00:58:55.000 And another one... 0.98

00:58:57.000 That was a part of the whole Benghazi bullshit. 0.99

00:58:59.000 I mean, that was 2016. They didn't trust her because of that. 0.99

00:59:03.000 They didn't trust her because she's a part of the machine.

00:59:06.000 They're the part of the whole machine that got them into Iraq in the first place under false pretenses. 0.95

00:59:13.000 Where people voted for law and order, right?

00:59:15.000 Yes!

00:59:15.000 And after the summer of what they were witnessing, they thought, you know what?

00:59:19.000 I think probably looking at that and then saying I'm for defunding the police or whatever the term they use sometimes, reimagining policing as a community effort.

00:59:27.000 It doesn't mean you're racist.

00:59:29.000 And then on top of that, what does Biden really support?

00:59:32.000 What is he standing for?

00:59:34.000 Tell me what the policies are.

00:59:36.000 Does anybody know?

00:59:37.000 Is there anything real clear and present that's at the forefront where it makes sense?

00:59:42.000 Like, this is how he's going to clean this up.

00:59:43.000 This is how he's going to clean that up.

00:59:45.000 This is where we're doing wrong and this is how he's going to fix it.

00:59:48.000 There wasn't a discussion of that. 0.54

00:59:49.000 It was just, Trump is bad.

00:59:51.000 What is Trump doing? 0.94

00:59:52.000 Trump is ruining everything.

00:59:54.000 I'm going to set up a commission.

00:59:55.000 I mean, his answer for a couple of things, like with the pandemic.

00:59:59.000 Well, what are you going to do?

00:59:59.000 I'm going to get a commission of the leading scientists, and we're going to look at how do we deliver these things on time, and how do I... I think, well, hold on a second, pal.

01:00:07.000 Look, I mean, I don't doubt that he's a good person.

01:00:09.000 I'm sure he is a good person.

01:00:10.000 I think?

01:00:29.000 His answer to that commission, his answer to court packing, are you in favor of court packing?

01:00:33.000 He wouldn't answer that question.

01:00:35.000 So he said, I'm in a form of a commission to look at it because I think the Supreme Court's out of whack. 0.98

01:00:39.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.98

01:00:40.000 Well, not only that, he said the people don't deserve to know. 0.99

01:00:44.000 You hear that part? 0.99

01:00:45.000 He says some wacky shit, and I'll tell you one thing. 0.99

01:00:48.000 As a comic, God, I hope comedy clubs open up to full capacity soon. 1.00

01:00:52.000 Because there is so much gold in that man.

01:00:56.000 There's gold in Trump.

01:00:57.000 But the gold in Trump was almost hard to mine because so many people were so polarized by him.

01:01:03.000 And the jokes already wrote themselves.

01:01:05.000 People are like, Jesus Christ, stop talking about Trump.

01:01:08.000 Enough already.

01:01:09.000 I really didn't have much Trump material.

01:01:11.000 I had Trump material on the way to the White House.

01:01:13.000 I got a whole bit about him in 2016. Yeah.

01:01:17.000 I may be completely wrong about this, but also he was such a parody of himself, in a sense, that it's almost hard to go anywhere with it. 0.98

01:01:25.000 He's so ridiculous, it's hard to write stuff that's more ridiculous. 0.52

01:01:29.000 One of the things you do with comedy is you make things more ridiculous than they actually are, but with a grain of truth to it, when you're mocking a person. 0.94

01:01:37.000 Well, I'm curious as to where Corn Pop's going to end up in all of this.

01:01:40.000 Oh, he's going to be great.

01:01:41.000 Corn Pop is coming back.

01:01:42.000 Corn Pop's going to say, I'm here to tell you that story's true. 1.00

01:01:47.000 Joe Biden put me in my place, and I was ready to fight him. 0.95

01:01:51.000 And he does have hairy legs. 0.67

01:01:53.000 The hairy legs thing confused me, too.

01:01:55.000 The one that confused me was who allowed him to talk in front of all those children that are not paying attention at all. 0.99

01:02:02.000 Some people are just real bad at telling stories, and kids will be the first to let you know that, because they don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:02:09.000 Those kids were just having a good time. 0.99

01:02:12.000 They were behind him just chatting away about all sorts of non-related shit. 0.92

01:02:16.000 I don't know about your kids, but if I start telling the story and my kids aren't into it, they'll walk off. 0.85

01:02:20.000 They check out.

01:02:21.000 They just go on.

01:02:22.000 They won't even stick around.

01:02:23.000 They won't even stick around.

01:02:25.000 Well, I encourage mockery in my house.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, likewise.

01:02:28.000 If something's funny in my house, it takes the cake.

01:02:32.000 And sometimes I get yelled at for laughing at things that...

01:02:36.000 I think are funny, but you're not supposed to think are funny. 0.99

01:02:39.000 Especially my 12-year-old would say some hilarious shit, and I was just like, ah! 0.98

01:02:44.000 I'm like, stop, you're not supposed to. 0.99

01:02:46.000 That is not supposed to be funny. 0.97

01:02:48.000 I'm like, that's fucking funny. 0.99

01:02:50.000 Yeah, my boys say shit that's inappropriate all the time. 1.00

01:02:54.000 You have to stop and laugh about it, because you think... 1.00

01:02:56.000 That's pretty sophisticated for a nine-year-old.

01:03:00.000 My youngest goes for the joke.

01:03:01.000 Yeah.

01:03:02.000 She's the most active.

01:03:03.000 Like, when I have friends over, she, like, turns it on.

01:03:06.000 She'll start performing. 0.98

01:03:08.000 My friend Tom Segura was like, damn, she's got a lot of comic in her. 0.97

01:03:11.000 I'm like, well, she knows what works. 0.98

01:03:14.000 Right.

01:03:14.000 She's like, in my house, that's currency.

01:03:16.000 Yeah.

01:03:17.000 You got to do that.

01:03:17.000 I think it helps in so many ways, right?

01:03:21.000 Oh, yeah!

01:03:21.000 If you stifle their humor, or you don't let them understand the complexity of humor, or how it can be layered, and part of that is sort of the, you know, it's like the nine-year-old will sit with his older brothers, and they'll plow through a couple episodes of South Park,

01:03:38.000 and you know, I'm thinking, okay, I've caught the nine-year-old watching Borat, the second Borat movie.

01:03:43.000 Oh, no!

01:03:45.000 I'm thinking, like, all right, I'm sorry, I didn't authorize this, but, you know, what are you going to do?

01:03:49.000 That's awesome.

01:03:50.000 And the one area that we have been trying to control is the language, right?

01:03:54.000 And that's a problem for both my fabulous wife and I. We'll tend to swear around the kids. 1.00

01:04:02.000 Get a little colorful.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:04:04.000 And so, like, I don't have a problem, you know, and if one of them's acting like a douche, then I'll say, hey, look, stop acting like an asshole or don't be a douchebag or whatever. 0.99

01:04:11.000 And they pick that up, right? 1.00

01:04:13.000 Right.

01:04:13.000 I guess I should have known that.

01:04:14.000 And then they'll take it to school with them.

01:04:16.000 I feel like it's better if they hear it in the house.

01:04:19.000 Yeah.

01:04:19.000 I really do.

01:04:20.000 It's like, what, are you going to hear it outside and be confused by it?

01:04:23.000 Like, it's language that adults use.

01:04:25.000 I tell my kids, just don't use that language when you go over people's houses.

01:04:29.000 Don't use that language around teachers.

01:04:31.000 Don't use that language around other adults.

01:04:33.000 It's a weird thing, because they also know that I'm a comedian, and I swear for a living.

01:04:37.000 And sometimes my wife listens to my podcast, and she'll have it on the car.

01:04:41.000 And so, like, you get in the car, and Bluetooth is playing, you start the car. 0.99

01:04:45.000 And I was like, what the fuck is that guy thinking? 1.00

01:04:48.000 And she's like, oh my god, daddy has the worst potty mouth. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:04:52.000 One thing I do encourage, I do encourage mockery of me.

01:04:56.000 If they make fun of me, that's their way to get back.

01:05:00.000 They can make fun of me, and I'll start laughing.

01:05:04.000 It's not fair that you live with these people that are older than you that get to tell you what to do.

01:05:08.000 You never get to tell them what to do.

01:05:10.000 Kids get resentful of that.

01:05:12.000 So the one way they can get back at me is mocking me.

01:05:14.000 Yeah.

01:05:15.000 And I feel exactly the same way as long as they do it in a clever way, right?

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:20.000 It's got to be...

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 There's got to be some humor to it, and it's got to be smart, right, about how they do it.

01:05:26.000 Well, I'll critique their jokes. 0.97

01:05:27.000 I'm like, that joke sucked. 0.93

01:05:29.000 That's not good. 0.88

01:05:30.000 Yeah.

01:05:30.000 But sometimes they'll get you with some good ones.

01:05:32.000 They'll get you with some zingers.

01:05:33.000 Yeah.

01:05:34.000 I got my 13-year-old, the boy, Scooter, is...

01:05:37.000 He's starting to challenge me, right?

01:05:39.000 He'll actually start, like...

01:05:41.000 We'll get into a contest here. 0.64

01:05:45.000 He'll come up and he'll start punching me.

01:05:47.000 And I'll let it go.

01:05:49.000 But then I can kind of tell.

01:05:50.000 You see it in their eyes, right?

01:05:51.000 They're like, yeah, I'm getting one up here.

01:05:54.000 Then you have to take their soul.

01:05:56.000 Then you got to take them down, right?

01:05:57.000 And you think, okay.

01:05:58.000 But then I'm thinking, I got maybe like, I don't know, not that many years left before he's going to be...

01:06:03.000 Time to start lifting.

01:06:04.000 Well, you know, and who doesn't?

01:06:07.000 But...

01:06:08.000 He will.

01:06:10.000 One day.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, he will one day, but right now I can see that he's starting to do that.

01:06:14.000 He's starting to challenge a little bit.

01:06:16.000 It's natural.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, it is natural.

01:06:17.000 Roy Jones Jr. talked about that on his podcast with his dad, that a lion has to leave the den. 0.99

01:06:23.000 When a young lion is coming up, the old lion's like, hey son, it's time for you to get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:06:29.000 Or the old one just wanders off and dies. 0.98

01:06:32.000 Wands up with a broken jaw and can't feed himself.

01:06:34.000 I told my boys, just wheel me out to the back and then go back up on the top deck and take turns shooting at me.

01:06:42.000 Just take me out.

01:06:43.000 At the point where I'm losing it, just do that.

01:06:46.000 Just end it.

01:06:47.000 I think there's a more humane way to handle it.

01:06:48.000 There probably is.

01:06:49.000 You can do that yourself, too. 1.00

01:06:51.000 You don't have to put in your kids, so they have to think about that shit for the rest of their life. 0.99

01:06:55.000 So parenting, they didn't seem concerned about the idea, though. 0.99

01:06:58.000 In fact, they almost seemed on board with it.

01:06:59.000 Well, you might have uncorrectable errors that you've already committed in child-rearing.

01:07:08.000 There's that possibility. 0.98

01:07:09.000 Hey, what is the shit that I'm hearing that Jamie was bringing up today? 0.99

01:07:13.000 That Trump might fire the head of the CIA and the NSA? That he's thinking about doing that before he leaves? 0.99

01:07:21.000 Yeah, that would be a...

01:07:22.000 But wouldn't Biden just rehire him?

01:07:25.000 I would like to think so. 0.82

01:07:26.000 It would be a complete dick move if he does, because he's not going to find a better director than Gina Haspel over at the agency. 0.94

01:07:32.000 She's top-notch. 0.88

01:07:34.000 I hear nothing but good things.

01:07:35.000 She's outstanding.

01:07:38.000 And this is what I worry about here when we talk about the administration changeover, right?

01:07:42.000 Because maybe she would stay on during the Biden administration for a period of time.

01:07:45.000 I mean, we've seen that in the past in other circumstances.

01:07:48.000 But usually they would end up looking and saying, we're going to replace the directors.

01:07:52.000 We're going to do these things.

01:07:54.000 And, you know, there's been a little bit of talk in Washington, you know, about, you know, who may be in what position.

01:08:02.000 Gina Haspel, one of the things that makes her so good is that she grew up in the outfit, right?

01:08:07.000 And so she's got that deep understanding of operations and what it takes, right?

01:08:11.000 What's required and what, you know...

01:08:13.000 Is she like the girl from Homeland?

01:08:16.000 But less crazy? 0.71

01:08:17.000 Less crazy.

01:08:18.000 Yeah, no, no, she's not crazy at all.

01:08:20.000 But I mean, no, she's just top-notch.

01:08:24.000 And there's no chinks in the armor or whatever you say.

01:08:27.000 So why would anyone...

01:08:28.000 Are you allowed to say that anymore?

01:08:29.000 I just realized that.

01:08:30.000 I don't think so.

01:08:31.000 I think you can still say it, but people get real scared.

01:08:34.000 Okay.

01:08:34.000 They say it and they go, oh, Jesus.

01:08:36.000 Yeah, like I just did.

01:08:38.000 But so Gina, it would be great if they replaced her, if they were to replace her with someone who is from outside, right? 0.89

01:08:45.000 And we've had some good outside directors.

01:08:47.000 Leon Panetta was a good example, right?

01:08:49.000 That guy, you know...

01:08:50.000 Explain to people, and help me along the lines as well.

01:08:54.000 If someone were to become an outside director of the CIA, say you're a person who works in What industry would they draw from?

01:09:05.000 Sometimes the names get floated.

01:09:08.000 Their biggest thing is they've existed in national security circles.

01:09:13.000 They were in a think tank for a long time.

01:09:15.000 They were writing policy papers and maybe they were on a national security staff somewhere.

01:09:21.000 What the agency thrives under, as far as leadership goes usually, is somebody who really understands because they've done it.

01:09:28.000 Because they've been inside.

01:09:29.000 They've been inside and they understand what it's all about.

01:09:33.000 There's a lot of moving parts in there.

01:09:35.000 So you wouldn't take from business.

01:09:39.000 You wouldn't get someone who runs businesses.

01:09:41.000 It would have to be someone with some sort of national security background.

01:09:45.000 Yeah, I mean, you would hope.

01:09:47.000 But even still, they don't really cross-pollinate.

01:09:50.000 Someone from the FBI wouldn't become the head of the CIA, would they?

01:09:55.000 Fantastic guy.

01:09:55.000 One of the greatest people I've ever known, William Webster, was both the director of the FBI and the director of the agency during his career.

01:10:03.000 And he was not inside the agency, but he was an outstanding director.

01:10:09.000 I think you could argue it was an anomaly.

01:10:11.000 There are a couple others.

01:10:12.000 But I guess my point being is it would be a dick move to let her go because she's outstanding.

01:10:20.000 But do they usually do that where when someone gets in, they clean house and then they put their own people in positions?

01:10:29.000 Statistically, I don't know what the percentage is, but sometimes not.

01:10:32.000 I mean, Gates is a good example of that, Bob Gates, kind of transcended administration.

01:10:37.000 Because I always look at agencies, obviously I'm on the outside deeply, but I look at agencies as being something that's completely separate.

01:10:50.000 Right.

01:11:01.000 No.

01:11:02.000 I mean, the director sometimes can be, and that's why I say it changes sometimes.

01:11:07.000 You get people that may come in and have more of a political bent, which I think is always wrong.

01:11:13.000 Ideally, the agency, NSA, other members of the intel community should always be...

01:11:20.000 Ideally apolitical.

01:11:21.000 Now, everybody's human, right?

01:11:22.000 They've got their own beliefs, etc., obviously.

01:11:24.000 But I think it works best when these... 1.00

01:11:28.000 And we've seen from other countries overseas, you see this shit, right? 0.99

01:11:31.000 You see when you get a change in government and they just wholesale clean out the intelligence organization or the police organization and they bring in all their people. 1.00

01:11:41.000 It's a nightmare.

01:11:42.000 We never want that. 1.00

01:11:43.000 Yeah, you never want that shit here. 1.00

01:11:45.000 Because then there's all these growing pains and you've got to figure out what the job is. 0.99

01:11:49.000 You have a bunch of people that aren't accustomed to the way you normally do business.

01:11:53.000 Well, then you've got people beholden to that power structure for their job.

01:11:59.000 And you want that arm's length.

01:12:00.000 You want them to be able to give objective opinions, right?

01:12:04.000 That's what's critical here.

01:12:05.000 So you have to be able to say, here's the reporting.

01:12:08.000 Here's an objective analysis assessment of what this means.

01:12:12.000 Here are your options.

01:12:13.000 And you have to have confidence that...

01:12:16.000 They're doing that in an apolitical, or as much as possible, you know, being realistic, an apolitical manner.

01:12:22.000 And, I mean, that's what's the whole kerfuffle.

01:12:25.000 Can we say?

01:12:26.000 Yeah, kerfuffle's fine.

01:12:27.000 Kerfuffle's fine.

01:12:28.000 And so the whole kerfuffle over the politicization of the FBI, for instance, with Comey and others, that makes people deeply uncomfortable, right?

01:12:39.000 But, you know, these positions, that very top position typically is politically appointed, right?

01:12:45.000 Did you see where Ted Cruz was grilling Comey about evidence that had been changed?

01:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:53.000 What did you think of that?

01:12:55.000 I sometimes have a hard time watching Ted Cruz, although I give him credit.

01:12:58.000 He's a very, very smart guy. 1.00

01:12:59.000 I think he knows his shit. 1.00

01:13:02.000 I like his beard. 1.00

01:13:03.000 Yeah, the beard is top notch.

01:13:05.000 He looks a lot better with the beard.

01:13:06.000 He came out of the pandemic with that, right?

01:13:08.000 I trust him more now for some strange reason.

01:13:11.000 He seems like more of a man.

01:13:12.000 He looks tougher.

01:13:13.000 I was about to say, he looks a little tougher.

01:13:15.000 But, you know, I think Comey has the same problem in a sense that, you know, like over on the CIA side that John Brennan had.

01:13:25.000 I think they just...

01:13:25.000 They got too deep into the game in terms of politics and the association.

01:13:30.000 And at that point, one side or the other, depending on where you are on the fence, is going to find it that offensive or questionable or maybe lacking in credibility.

01:13:40.000 So when you say too deep in politics, meaning they did things that weren't necessarily the correct things to do, but they were very good for them politically?

01:13:47.000 Yeah, I think so, or liked the game, or just developed too close a tie.

01:13:52.000 I mean, if I were the president, I would not want to be a buddy with the head of the agency, or a buddy with the head of NSA or the Bureau.

01:14:03.000 But wasn't that the thing that Trump demanded from Comey?

01:14:06.000 He was like, you know, I need you to be loyal, and Comey was like, excuse me?

01:14:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:11.000 Well, politically, I think he's on the opposite side of the fence there.

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 I mean, I think if somebody who was more politically aligned with Comey had said that, he would have gone, well, of course I am.

01:14:19.000 I mean, not loyal, but just saying, sir, you can always count on my loyalty.

01:14:22.000 It wouldn't have been an issue.

01:14:23.000 It wouldn't have leaked out.

01:14:24.000 It wouldn't have been a story.

01:14:25.000 But, yeah, coming back around, I think the smartest thing they could do, assuming that Vice President Biden becomes President-elect Biden if the numbers continue to go the way they are— With the agency, he should definitely keep Gina Haspel on that job.

01:14:42.000 That would be a smart move on his part.

01:14:46.000 What's the argument against it?

01:14:47.000 What is he saying?

01:14:48.000 Do you know what he's saying, Jamie?

01:14:50.000 Is there something...

01:14:51.000 No, it just was like a rumor he was going to get rid of everyone, even if upon re-election is what it was.

01:14:57.000 Oh, even upon re-election?

01:14:58.000 Yeah, I just found it was being talked about, like, the 26th of October is when it's first hit.

01:15:03.000 I mean, people generally at that level, don't quote me, but generally they submit their resignations, you know.

01:15:09.000 So if Trump were to have won or were to win, then they would still submit their resignations and he would have the opportunity to either offer them that position again or find someone new.

01:15:36.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:37.000 Because her assumption is she will not have a job after January, you know, middle of January. 0.60

01:15:42.000 So it's a standard procedure out there.

01:15:45.000 But when you find a real quality person who can provide you with extremely good advice and insight, you should probably hold on to that person, you know.

01:15:56.000 Obviously, you're a little biased.

01:15:57.000 I'm biased, yeah, but I think it goes regardless of who that person is, right?

01:16:04.000 Or, like I said, with Leon Panetta, he was Clinton's chief of staff, right?

01:16:11.000 I mean, Bill Clinton's.

01:16:12.000 So we're not necessarily politically aligned, but he was a terrific director.

01:16:17.000 So I would say the same thing about anybody who exhibits excellent leadership.

01:16:21.000 Do you think any politician is going to do this thing again?

01:16:24.000 The hand, this, whatever that is.

01:16:27.000 I'm not sure what that is. 0.91

01:16:29.000 How about this thing where he's jerking off ghosts?

01:16:31.000 Have you seen that online? 0.96

01:16:32.000 I saw that online.

01:16:33.000 That was fantastic. 1.00

01:16:33.000 It looks like Trump is jerking off ghosts. 1.00

01:16:37.000 Trump's out here jerking off ghosts. 1.00

01:16:38.000 Oh, the dance. 0.99

01:16:39.000 The dance.

01:16:40.000 That dance thing.

01:16:41.000 I just don't know what that is.

01:16:41.000 The feet moving, not at all.

01:16:43.000 The hands moving like dicks. 1.00

01:16:47.000 He's got a dick in each hand. 1.00

01:16:48.000 I'm going to miss that about it. 1.00

01:16:49.000 Here he comes.

01:16:50.000 Look at this.

01:16:51.000 I mean, when you really stop and think about it, that is one of the worst ways you could ever... 0.99

01:16:55.000 I mean, he's literally doing a dick in each hand move. 1.00

01:17:00.000 That's a dick in each hand move. 1.00

01:17:02.000 Look, dick in each hand, dick in each hand. 1.00

01:17:04.000 Stroke him, stroke him. 1.00

01:17:05.000 Hey! 0.99

01:17:06.000 Well done, you two.

01:17:07.000 I'll take you, and I'll take you. 1.00

01:17:08.000 I'll jerk you off, and you off. 1.00

01:17:10.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:17:12.000 We're not going to get that.

01:17:13.000 We're not going to get this again.

01:17:15.000 No.

01:17:16.000 I mean, he's...

01:17:18.000 Like I said, he's almost too much for...

01:17:20.000 Look at that.

01:17:20.000 In the mouth.

01:17:21.000 Look at that.

01:17:22.000 He's almost too much for comedy.

01:17:25.000 Yeah.

01:17:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:17:26.000 Like, he's almost too ridiculous. 0.99

01:17:27.000 Everything about him. 0.98

01:17:28.000 The hair. 1.00

01:17:29.000 The fucking... 1.00

01:17:30.000 But the fact that he beat COVID in four days really killed that goddamn narrative that this is something that's going to kill us all. 1.00

01:17:37.000 Yeah, you know, that's an interesting point about this, what the narrative's going to be, right? 0.89

01:17:42.000 The science isn't going to change come January 21st or whenever, when we inaugurate the new president, right?

01:17:50.000 If it happens to be Biden, the science won't change between now and then, right?

01:17:54.000 They'll still be working on vaccines to get those out for delivery, but...

01:17:58.000 I guarantee you that tone's going to change, right?

01:18:01.000 The tone of coverage?

01:18:02.000 Yes.

01:18:03.000 Businesses are going to open up.

01:18:05.000 The economy's going to shift.

01:18:06.000 And it's not going to happen until after January.

01:18:08.000 They're going to wait until Biden actually gets in office.

01:18:10.000 They're not going to do it when he's the president-elect.

01:18:12.000 They're going to wait, wait, wait, wait, open it back up!

01:18:16.000 And they're going to hope they did it in enough time where all these people are still going to vote Democrat. 0.92

01:18:20.000 Unfortunately, I think a lot of them are going to forget how ridiculous some of these governors have been. 0.92

01:18:26.000 They've killed people's businesses. 0.98

01:18:28.000 They've stopped people from working.

01:18:30.000 They've taken away people's ability to make their own choices about what to do.

01:18:35.000 They're fighting that in California.

01:18:37.000 Newsom just lost a case where they said that he overextended his powers and they're forbidding him to do that from now on.

01:18:45.000 Then they're going to review it.

01:18:47.000 He's basically changing legislation.

01:18:50.000 Well, and I think that's—what people should watch also is—look, these two—I can't emphasize this enough—unless Purdue gets that 50% plus one vote and outright wins that Senate seat in Georgia, you've got these two Senate seats,

01:19:05.000 right?

01:19:06.000 And this is the balance of the U.S. Senate.

01:19:09.000 This is why this is important.

01:19:09.000 This is actually more important now than the focus that the world's got on Biden-Trump, right?

01:19:15.000 I think that train's left the station probably, but— Regardless, that Senate control is critically important in terms of, again, a sort of a balance of power arrangement, keeping government in check.

01:19:27.000 And so, you know, the Democrats are, you know, they are going to pump a shit ton of cash into those races, two of them, even if there's just one.

01:19:38.000 Well, no, if there's one, then forget about it, because, you know, they've lost the majority possibility.

01:19:44.000 If both of those go to runoff in January, I think that may...

01:19:52.000 And Biden is the president-elect, and it's decided, and they have the concession speech from Trump, and so we go through this period of mid-December through January.

01:20:02.000 Then I think you will see some change.

01:20:04.000 I don't think they'll wait until after Biden is officially president in terms of the coverage, because they're going to want to impact those elections in Georgia, right?

01:20:10.000 You're going to want to show, oh my god, look, we're really doing this, and it's, ah, things are turning around now.

01:20:17.000 And the media will be completely complicit in that, obviously.

01:20:21.000 Well, most of the media is left-wing, which is weird.

01:20:26.000 I think what's going to happen is Trump's going to form his own media organization.

01:20:31.000 That's what I think.

01:20:32.000 I think he's going to have something either online or he's going to have something on a network.

01:20:37.000 But like, what is that?

01:20:39.000 OAN? OAN, yeah.

01:20:41.000 That's sort of the...

01:20:42.000 What is it?

01:20:43.000 So what do we got?

01:20:43.000 We got OAN and we got Newsmax.

01:20:45.000 They make Fox look like CNBC. Yeah.

01:20:48.000 Or MSNBC. You see how a lot of conservatives have turned on Fox like a fucking heartbeat, right? 0.99

01:20:54.000 I know. 1.00

01:20:54.000 Crazy, right? 1.00

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:56.000 They turned on Fox when they called Arizona.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, but they've been doing it.

01:21:00.000 There's been some dissatisfaction, I think, within the right over Fox's direction, right?

01:21:05.000 What's wrong with the direction?

01:21:07.000 Well, I think they felt like it was getting too liberal.

01:21:10.000 Right.

01:21:11.000 I know.

01:21:12.000 That was the thing.

01:21:14.000 Well, Chris Wallace, right?

01:21:15.000 Yeah, Chris Wallace.

01:21:17.000 He's been questioning Trump.

01:21:19.000 How dare he?

01:21:20.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 But what do they got?

01:21:21.000 They got that triumvirate of Carlson, Ingram, and Hannity, right?

01:21:26.000 So they're happy with those, I think, still.

01:21:29.000 But I think they question everything else they hear.

01:21:31.000 And certainly after they called Arizona now, there's a lot of pissed off people who will go to OAN or whatever, Newsmax, as a refuge.

01:21:40.000 But a media company for Trump, that might make more sense.

01:21:42.000 I assumed that if he's out after this term, that he would just get some huge offer from a network for another show.

01:21:50.000 He will get that.

01:21:53.000 I think he will probably start his own thing, and I think he will also start running for re-election.

01:21:59.000 And he's going to try to run again in 2024. No way.

01:22:02.000 Yeah.

01:22:02.000 No.

01:22:03.000 That's what he's going to do.

01:22:04.000 I will place a bet on that one.

01:22:06.000 How much?

01:22:06.000 How many do you want to bet?

01:22:07.000 That Trump will not run for re-election in 2024. He's going to run and he's going to win in 2024. I will bet you right now.

01:22:13.000 Give me some odds.

01:22:13.000 A thousand bucks.

01:22:14.000 All right.

01:22:14.000 What kind of odds do I get?

01:22:16.000 I was going to give you even odds.

01:22:18.000 It's 2020. I'll bet you a thousand bucks.

01:22:20.000 Does he have to win or does he have to run?

01:22:22.000 You did say run and win.

01:22:24.000 I did, but I got crazy.

01:22:25.000 I want odds.

01:22:26.000 I want odds for win.

01:22:27.000 For win, okay.

01:22:29.000 Odds?

01:22:30.000 Odds for win?

01:22:31.000 Yeah, I'll go even for running.

01:22:33.000 Okay, even for running.

01:22:34.000 You got to bet.

01:22:34.000 A thousand bucks.

01:22:35.000 A thousand bucks and then odds for winning.

01:22:37.000 Okay.

01:22:38.000 I need like five more.

01:22:39.000 He's the current favorite for the 2024 nominee.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, there you go, bro.

01:22:43.000 What'd I tell you?

01:22:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:45.000 I'm not talking shit. 0.98

01:22:46.000 John Kasich has a good chance. 0.99

01:22:48.000 Mark Cuban.

01:22:48.000 Oh, they're all plus 1,000.

01:22:49.000 Wait, I thought Mark Cuban is...

01:22:51.000 Is he a Republican?

01:22:54.000 As much as President Trump is, I suppose, in the day.

01:22:58.000 But I thought he was supporting Biden.

01:23:00.000 He's been supporting Biden.

01:23:02.000 He's been saying that Biden is good for business.

01:23:04.000 I think he's been staking out sort of that independent kind of position.

01:23:07.000 He'll probably swing a little right if he's serious about running.

01:23:11.000 Now that if Biden wins, I think he'll want to kind of veer his way back towards the right.

01:23:17.000 We're so broken in terms of this two-party nonsense. 0.99

01:23:19.000 It's so broken.

01:23:20.000 But the libertarians, that's no place to land.

01:23:22.000 I mean, I agree with a lot of the concepts, but it's never going to be a successful third party that challenges.

01:23:29.000 It could if someone like Trump became a libertarian.

01:23:33.000 Right?

01:23:34.000 That's what he said back in 2017. What'd he say?

01:23:36.000 He says he'd probably run as a Republican.

01:23:39.000 Probably, he said.

01:23:40.000 Probably.

01:23:41.000 I don't like that word.

01:23:42.000 Probably. 0.99

01:23:43.000 The fuck does that mean, bro? 1.00

01:23:45.000 Who knows? 0.99

01:23:45.000 Maybe he'll become more compassionate if he licks his finger and feels the wind blowing in that direction. 0.99

01:23:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:51.000 You know?

01:23:53.000 Okay, well, we got that bet out of the way, so that's good.

01:23:56.000 So did we...

01:23:57.000 2024, let me get this right.

01:23:58.000 That's four years from now.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, $1,000 for if he runs, I win $1,000.

01:24:05.000 And if he wins, I win $5,000.

01:24:10.000 So, if he runs, I already have $1,000 that I'll stake against you for winning.

01:24:16.000 And then I just get a free shot at winning $5,000.

01:24:19.000 I like it.

01:24:20.000 I like it.

01:24:21.000 I'm pretty strong on this one.

01:24:22.000 I just don't see that happening.

01:24:24.000 I'm pretty strong on it, too, bro.

01:24:26.000 Different odds for the overall winner of the next election.

01:24:29.000 That's Kamala Harris as the leader.

01:24:32.000 Well, look at Mike Pence, though.

01:24:34.000 Mike Pence is 8-1.

01:24:35.000 Yeah, Trump isn't even on the list.

01:24:36.000 Hold on, Biden is 12-1?

01:24:39.000 Wow, AOC is 25 to 1. Scroll down.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, better odds than Trump. 0.99

01:24:42.000 Damn, that's amazing. 0.99

01:24:45.000 Cuomo, 25 to 1? 0.99

01:24:46.000 That's not happening.

01:24:47.000 Elizabeth Warren, 28 to 1. This is horse shit. 1.00

01:24:49.000 I mean, it's very early. 1.00

01:24:50.000 This is just one site.

01:24:51.000 Trump is 33 to 1. Oh, my God.

01:24:53.000 But the problem I got with this is, look.

01:24:55.000 We got 330 some odd million people, and we keep rehashing the same freaking list.

01:25:01.000 You know why?

01:25:02.000 When you go to the movies, okay?

01:25:03.000 I want to see Daniel Day-Lewis, okay?

01:25:05.000 I want to see Matt Damon.

01:25:06.000 I want to see people I know. 0.99

01:25:07.000 I want to see some fucking nobody playing Thor, okay? 0.98

01:25:11.000 I want the Thor Yeah, you want somebody to recognize. 0.99

01:25:14.000 I get it.

01:25:14.000 Yes, that's what it is.

01:25:15.000 I mean, they're playing a role.

01:25:16.000 The role is the leader of the country.

01:25:18.000 Yeah.

01:25:18.000 You know, we like, oh, I know who that Pence guy is.

01:25:21.000 He was the VP. He's actually a very good speaker, even though he seems a bit loony.

01:25:26.000 Yeah.

01:25:27.000 I would like to get him alone.

01:25:29.000 I'd like to get him alone.

01:25:30.000 That doesn't sound right.

01:25:31.000 Spend some time with him.

01:25:32.000 See what he's like.

01:25:33.000 Get him drunk.

01:25:34.000 He probably doesn't drink at all.

01:25:36.000 That's a good question.

01:25:37.000 Trump does not, famously.

01:25:39.000 But, you know, I don't know.

01:25:41.000 I think it would be nice to see...

01:25:43.000 I've always thought it would be great to see somebody like a Condoleezza Rice, you know, come out of retirement from politics and say...

01:25:50.000 Does she have any desire to do that? 1.00

01:25:52.000 Does she ever express it?

01:25:53.000 I think none.

01:25:54.000 God, she was inside.

01:25:56.000 She's probably like, I'm done.

01:25:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:59.000 I just think she's having too much fun out in the commercial world.

01:26:02.000 I'm sure.

01:26:03.000 You know, so...

01:26:04.000 Who knows?

01:26:05.000 She'll end up as commissioner of the NFL or something. 0.99

01:26:08.000 I think that's the job she wants.

01:26:10.000 Does she really?

01:26:11.000 She's talked about it before, yeah.

01:26:12.000 Oh, no kidding.

01:26:13.000 That's interesting.

01:26:14.000 It would just be nice to see other well-qualified...

01:26:20.000 People kind of rise to the challenge.

01:26:22.000 You know what's interesting?

01:26:23.000 Andrew Yang apparently wants to do something with MMA. He wants to create new legislation for MMA and have people...

01:26:35.000 I talked about it with Luke Thomas the other day.

01:26:38.000 He wants people in MMA to fall under the Ali Act.

01:26:43.000 The Ali Act is that a promoter can't also be the belt distributor. 0.60

01:26:49.000 So the people that are the sanctioning bodies, like the WBC in boxing, can also be a promoter.

01:26:55.000 The UFC is obviously a promoter, and they also are the sanctioning body.

01:27:00.000 They're the same thing.

01:27:02.000 And the Ali Act forbids that for boxing, and he wants the Ali Act to apply to MMA. It's a strange thing for him to pick up and run with.

01:27:26.000 He said he thinks every cop should be at least a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

01:27:29.000 And I wholeheartedly agree with that.

01:27:32.000 I think he's very wise.

01:27:34.000 Andrew Yang is wise.

01:27:35.000 He says smart things.

01:27:37.000 I liked talking to him, but I like hearing him talk.

01:27:41.000 And I would wholeheartedly support him as president, too.

01:27:44.000 I think he's a wise person.

01:27:46.000 I know a lot of people don't like his idea of universal basic income, but...

01:27:50.000 I think this pandemic showed that there's a real need to have at least a backup plan if people can't work.

01:27:57.000 In terms of a crisis, yeah.

01:27:59.000 They didn't do anything.

01:28:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:01.000 In times of a pandemic, and this will not be our last pandemic, you know, hopefully we learn some lessons from it.

01:28:07.000 And I think we have.

01:28:09.000 Let me ask you this. 1.00

01:28:11.000 Gun to your head. 1.00

01:28:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:12.000 Did this come from a wet market or did it come from a level four virus lab?

01:28:18.000 I think the answer's a little more complicated.

01:28:20.000 I think it probably popped up in a wet market.

01:28:23.000 I think they were probably looking at it inside the lab.

01:28:27.000 And I think their containment procedures and their protocols were lacking.

01:28:32.000 And I think it got away from them.

01:28:35.000 And I think that's That's what the Chinese regime is busy still to this day trying to hide.

01:28:43.000 And look, there's documentation of concern about this particular lab and the level of security around it.

01:28:54.000 And, you know, concern over the money that was still being given to that lab to keep it going, despite the fact that the protocols were lacking.

01:29:02.000 And weren't they cited for safety violations as recently as 2018?

01:29:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:07.000 I mean, going back a decade or so, there were issues.

01:29:10.000 Here's what I found fascinating about this situation.

01:29:13.000 When the virus got out and when the pandemic started, one thing that everyone was certain of was where the virus originated.

01:29:23.000 And that if you said that it came from the lab, you were some wacky conspiracy theorist.

01:29:29.000 Right.

01:29:34.000 Biological hazard lab, or whatever it is.

01:29:36.000 With a history of problems.

01:29:38.000 Right there!

01:29:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:39.000 And that's it.

01:29:40.000 But if you suggest...

01:29:41.000 I mean, there's so many mysteries about this virus, right?

01:29:44.000 Right.

01:29:44.000 But if you suggested that it came perhaps from this lab...

01:29:49.000 You are some sort of a conspiracy theorist.

01:29:51.000 You're xenophobic, too. 0.85

01:29:51.000 Don't forget that. 0.85

01:29:52.000 Yes, xenophobic.

01:29:53.000 And by the way, I've been accused of that because of that. 0.98

01:29:55.000 And having a fucking biologist on the show explain why, Brett Weinstein, explain why he believed it came from the lab. 0.97

01:30:05.000 Explain why, because if you examine the virus... 0.98

01:30:09.000 There's so many things that point to the fact this virus has been manipulated, that this virus is far too contagious, that it spreads far too quickly, it's gone through this whole evolutionary process that seems to have happened way too quickly for it not to have been manipulated.

01:30:23.000 He explained this in scientific terms without saying ever that he believes it absolutely came from the lab.

01:30:30.000 He's like, all indications point.

01:30:33.000 To the possibility that this had come from the lab.

01:30:35.000 And I've read all these things where, like, Joe Rogan's show is spreading dangerous conspiracy theories about the virus.

01:30:44.000 Because we should believe everything that the Xi regime says.

01:30:48.000 Why is there so many questions about so many things, but you can't question that?

01:30:54.000 We're not talking about a place that doesn't have a Level 4 lab.

01:30:59.000 We're talking in places that does.

01:31:00.000 Well, it's not like they study coronaviruses.

01:31:02.000 Oh, yes, they do.

01:31:04.000 Well, it can't come from there.

01:31:05.000 Can't.

01:31:06.000 Impossible.

01:31:07.000 How is it impossible?

01:31:08.000 By the way, this cough, I've been tested negative.

01:31:10.000 Are you COVID? No, I've been tested 30 minutes ago.

01:31:13.000 I was negative.

01:31:14.000 Everybody gets scared if you sneeze.

01:31:15.000 I know.

01:31:15.000 People look at you like there's something wrong with you.

01:31:17.000 I read something where it says sneezing in your mask is the new shit in your pants. 0.99

01:31:24.000 Yeah, look, I think there's every likelihood that this was picked up or identified in the wet market or through sort of, okay, this is a naturally occurring, and we know that this has happened before. 1.00

01:31:39.000 So that's not hard to imagine.

01:31:42.000 The likelihood that that then made its way into the lab is they were looking at it, manipulating it.

01:31:46.000 I do believe there was fuckery going on in terms of just trying to understand what it was or trying to see where it was going to go.

01:31:52.000 They studied coronaviruses from bats in that lab.

01:31:55.000 Exactly.

01:31:56.000 And so then, again, you've got a history of problems and protocols with this particular lab. 0.83

01:32:01.000 Where's the fucking mystery in terms of at least assuming that this is a possibility? 0.89

01:32:05.000 I think the real wacky conspiracy theory is that they did it on purpose and I don't subscribe to that. 0.98

01:32:11.000 I think that seems highly illogical that they would subject their own people to that and then they would shut down essentially most of the world.

01:32:19.000 That doesn't benefit anybody.

01:32:20.000 It doesn't seem like that would...

01:32:22.000 I don't see a logical reason why anybody would release that on purpose. 0.99

01:32:28.000 It's the same kind of people that wear their fucking masks in their Twitter profile pictures are the ones that hate anybody discussing the possibility that that virus escaped from a lab. 0.98

01:32:39.000 I just don't understand the argument. 0.99

01:32:41.000 Well, it was the same.

01:32:42.000 Again, you had all this angst over Over the temporary halt on travel between China and the US, right?

01:32:53.000 Yeah.

01:32:53.000 And again, you had this thing, crisis management planning, right?

01:32:59.000 Every company, every corporation will have a set of protocols, and they go through this and say, okay, we've got to look at all the potential threats and risks facing our company, and then we have to create a crisis management plan in case of this happens, that happens, whatever.

01:33:13.000 Like you said, have a backup plan or have a scenario that you can go to, and then you exercise that, right?

01:33:19.000 And so it's not...

01:33:20.000 Hard to imagine that if you have a pandemic playbook that says, okay, these are the various scenarios, we've identified now that this virus has come from over here, that we're going to temporarily halt travel from that location where we've identified this is the origination of that virus.

01:33:35.000 What the hell?

01:33:36.000 How is that tough? 0.54

01:33:37.000 But yet in this environment, because it's immediately politically charged.

01:33:41.000 Well, it is immediately politically charged, but then the ball shifts.

01:33:47.000 The goalposts shift.

01:33:48.000 Everything shifts, because at first it was a xenophobic move.

01:33:52.000 It was horrific and racist for him to shut down travel to China.

01:33:55.000 Then it became, he should have shut down travel earlier.

01:33:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:59.000 He knew about it all the way back in January.

01:34:01.000 Why did they take so long to respond?

01:34:03.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 No one knew what it was.

01:34:05.000 Oh, the conspiracy theories that they knew about it in 2019. But it's not fair when they take advantage of something that clearly no one was prepared for and blame it all on him.

01:34:16.000 Now, if you want to criticize him for saying, it's like the flu, it's going to go away, it's going to be magic, it's going to disappear...

01:34:23.000 It's gonna go like this.

01:34:26.000 Yeah, I think you're allowed to criticize him on that.

01:34:28.000 That's a preposterous way of discussing it. 1.00

01:34:31.000 It's stupid. 1.00

01:34:32.000 And to say it's gonna be like magic? 1.00

01:34:34.000 No, it's not.

01:34:34.000 And then when he got it himself, I think that was a real wake-up call.

01:34:38.000 I think you're right about that.

01:34:39.000 I think you could see a change in tone.

01:34:42.000 And I think he became a little more, if that's possible for him, empathetic.

01:34:47.000 But look, the Dems...

01:34:48.000 For a couple of days.

01:34:49.000 For a couple of days.

01:34:49.000 Yeah, I don't want to make more of it.

01:34:50.000 And then he became like a fucking Superman. 0.99

01:34:52.000 Maybe I'm immune. 1.00

01:34:53.000 I don't know.

01:34:55.000 I'm completely immune.

01:34:56.000 My blood is going to be used to solve the problem.

01:34:59.000 Jamie's got something.

01:34:59.000 It's not a random question that maybe insight from him would be into, like, I've seen a lot of stuff online about a Melania body double that, like, one version of her doesn't even like to hold his hand, but this other version will hug and kiss him.

01:35:10.000 He's super affectionate with him.

01:35:11.000 Yeah.

01:35:12.000 I don't even, like...

01:35:12.000 Could you imagine?

01:35:13.000 Listen to him.

01:35:14.000 Do they do that? 1.00

01:35:14.000 Bro, they can make that fucking guy look like a goblin and that one that Post Malone told us about. 1.00

01:35:21.000 Remember that guy? 1.00

01:35:22.000 Necrogoblicon.

01:35:23.000 Necrogoblicon, yeah.

01:35:24.000 I mean, that guy has a podcast where he wears his goblin outfit and he interviews people.

01:35:29.000 You're telling me they can't make someone look like Melania Trump? 1.00

01:35:32.000 Like people saying, that's Melania, you're being an idiot. 1.00

01:35:35.000 Are you sure? 1.00

01:35:37.000 She's wearing sunglasses.

01:35:39.000 She's obviously a lady with a lovely figure who's wearing sunglasses. 1.00

01:35:43.000 Her face seems similar to Melania's, but not exact.

01:35:47.000 So what are you saying?

01:35:48.000 You're in the camp of the body double?

01:35:50.000 I'm all in on the body double.

01:35:52.000 Listen, this is what I think.

01:35:54.000 Yes!

01:35:55.000 Rick Baker, who has been on the podcast before, created the American Werewolf in London. 0.98

01:35:59.000 You're talking about in the 80s, he got a guy to look like he was turning into a fucking werewolf. 0.98

01:36:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:04.000 You're telling me you can't recreate Melania's facial structure in a doll? 0.99

01:36:10.000 Of course they can.

01:36:10.000 Not a doll.

01:36:11.000 I mean, you know, a mask.

01:36:13.000 A doll.

01:36:13.000 Well, there you go.

01:36:14.000 There's a revenue stream there.

01:36:16.000 Especially with...

01:36:17.000 Oh, a big revenue stream.

01:36:18.000 Especially with the goggles.

01:36:21.000 The glasses.

01:36:21.000 The goggles.

01:36:22.000 They're huge.

01:36:22.000 Those glasses are more than glasses.

01:36:24.000 They're basically welding goggles.

01:36:25.000 She's got fashion welding goggles on. 1.00

01:36:28.000 It could be smart glasses.

01:36:29.000 But she's behaving... 0.81

01:36:31.000 In a way that you never see Melania behaving.

01:36:34.000 They're like newlyweds.

01:36:35.000 She's kissing him.

01:36:36.000 She's all lovey-dovey and everybody's cheering.

01:36:38.000 Like, I will say this. 0.99

01:36:42.000 It's so funny that it's such a fucking conspiracy. 0.99

01:36:45.000 Go to the video of the Melania body double being affectionate with Trump. 0.99

01:36:50.000 Because that's the weirdest to me.

01:36:52.000 I'm all in on the body double, by the way.

01:36:54.000 All in.

01:36:55.000 My wife has worked with Melania in the past on some overseas concerns and trips, and she's got nothing but excellent things to say about Melania in terms of...

01:37:06.000 She says she's a very private person, right?

01:37:08.000 She doesn't really like sort of the press concerns of the job of First Lady.

01:37:15.000 Her staff, my wife says, absolutely adores her, loves her, because she is a...

01:37:20.000 You know, a kind individual, a decent person.

01:37:23.000 So I've heard nothing but good things about her.

01:37:25.000 I will admit, I've never heard this body double story before.

01:37:28.000 I don't know where to go with that.

01:37:30.000 I know.

01:37:32.000 It's just another...

01:37:33.000 One more thing I've got to investigate.

01:37:38.000 Oh, here we go.

01:37:39.000 Here it is.

01:37:39.000 Look at this body double.

01:37:41.000 What do you think?

01:37:43.000 Look at it.

01:37:43.000 She's kissing him.

01:37:45.000 She's all huggy-huggy.

01:37:46.000 I like it why they did it.

01:37:47.000 That doesn't look like her.

01:37:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:37:48.000 It doesn't look like her.

01:37:49.000 Also, I don't like how they did it in front of the fucking teleprompter. 1.00

01:37:52.000 What kind of shit camera work is this? 1.00

01:37:55.000 I think they took a beautiful lady with a lovely figure and they put a Melania mask on her. 1.00

01:38:00.000 That's what I think.

01:38:01.000 Look at that.

01:38:01.000 Look at this.

01:38:02.000 It's like the Zapruder film, right? 1.00

01:38:04.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:38:05.000 Now we've got people investigating this. 0.99

01:38:07.000 Look how different she looks there.

01:38:09.000 Look at this.

01:38:09.000 It's a different person.

01:38:10.000 Oh, it's a different person.

01:38:11.000 Different nose.

01:38:13.000 The other one looks like a rubber nose.

01:38:14.000 Go back up to the top again.

01:38:15.000 That's a rubber nose.

01:38:17.000 That's a fake nose.

01:38:18.000 It looks like one of them groucho marks.

01:38:19.000 You said it could be Mike Pence underneath that mask.

01:38:21.000 I don't think.

01:38:22.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, okay.

01:38:23.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:38:24.000 All right, just asking.

01:38:28.000 See, that's what I'm saying.

01:38:30.000 Rick Baker, come on.

01:38:31.000 You tell me Rick Baker, he did with the werewolf.

01:38:35.000 You tell me he couldn't turn Melania Trump into that?

01:38:38.000 Come on.

01:38:39.000 Of course, Hollywood's worked with the agency, with the CIA in the past, on working with our disguise unit.

01:38:46.000 I'm sure you have.

01:38:47.000 Yeah, and I will say, it's incredible.

01:38:50.000 Incredible.

01:38:50.000 What can be done, right?

01:38:51.000 Because you think about it, sometimes a guy like me may not blend everywhere in the world, and so the ability to operate on the streets or out in the open, yeah, so we've got a shit-hot disguise unit.

01:39:03.000 Well, don't you remember Team America World Police? 0.99

01:39:06.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:39:06.000 Well, they gave him the ultimate disguise when he was out there talking to the terrorists. 0.99

01:39:16.000 Can we get that out?

01:39:17.000 Yeah, by the way, I'm not serious about the Melania double.

01:39:20.000 I don't really think it's Melania double.

01:39:22.000 Look at that. 0.99

01:39:23.000 How fucking bad it was. 0.99

01:39:25.000 He's got the Trump thing with the tan around the eyes, though. 0.99

01:39:29.000 Look, he's got the Trump thing with the tan around the eyes.

01:39:32.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 Oh my god, that movie was fantastic.

01:39:35.000 You remember that scene with Kim Il-Jong? 0.93

01:39:37.000 Yes.

01:39:38.000 Hans Briggs. 0.99

01:39:41.000 Hans, Hans, you're busting my balls here. 0.94

01:39:43.000 It's one of the greatest movies of all time. 0.84

01:39:45.000 You know another great movie that people forgot about?

01:39:47.000 The South Park movie.

01:39:48.000 Yes. 0.99

01:39:49.000 Where Satan and Saddam Hussein are gay lovers. 1.00

01:39:51.000 Oh my god, that was so good. 1.00

01:39:52.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:39:53.000 And they had dicks. 1.00

01:39:54.000 They could show dicks because it was a cartoon dick so you could have the dick flopping around. 1.00

01:39:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:59.000 The voice work on that was brilliant.

01:40:01.000 Amazing.

01:40:03.000 Fantastic. 1.00

01:40:03.000 Satan is gay and he fucks Saddam Hussein. 1.00

01:40:05.000 There you go. 1.00

01:40:05.000 Come on, man. 1.00

01:40:08.000 Dude.

01:40:10.000 Saddam's voice was brilliant.

01:40:12.000 Yeah.

01:40:13.000 And Saddam's head moves like a Canadian's where it pops off. 0.97

01:40:17.000 Terrence and Philip.

01:40:18.000 Hey, Terrence.

01:40:20.000 It's a great show.

01:40:22.000 I recommend that show to everybody I know because I honestly think it's the best piece of television work ever done.

01:40:27.000 Ever done.

01:40:27.000 They're the greatest of all time.

01:40:29.000 They're the greatest comedy producers of all time.

01:40:31.000 But the movie, that movie, South Park, the South Park movie is so underrated because it's almost like their body of work is so extensive.

01:40:39.000 They have so many good episodes and so much good stuff that people forgot about a lot of it.

01:40:47.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:40:48.000 Dude, when I first moved to California, okay, it was maybe a year after I was here.

01:40:55.000 It's not?

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:57.000 No, no, no.

01:40:58.000 No, no, no.

01:40:59.000 This is what I was about to say.

01:41:01.000 When I first moved to California in 94, I was living in North Hollywood for about a year, and then I moved to Encino.

01:41:09.000 So when I was in Encino, somewhere around 95-ish, and someone gave me a VHS copy of their first production.

01:41:17.000 And it wasn't even South Park then.

01:41:19.000 It was like, I think, maybe it was South Park, but it was all the characters, and it was all about what would Brian Boitano do.

01:41:25.000 Yeah.

01:41:25.000 Brian Boy, Tyler the Skater.

01:41:27.000 Great song.

01:41:28.000 I think it was about Christmas.

01:41:29.000 Yeah, it's called The Spirit of Christmas.

01:41:30.000 That's right.

01:41:31.000 It came out in 95. Thank you.

01:41:33.000 So I got a VHS copy of that, and I remember dying laughing. 0.99

01:41:37.000 It was the funniest fucking shit I've ever heard. 0.99

01:41:40.000 So that was 25 years ago. 0.99

01:41:44.000 So of course the show is 21 years old.

01:41:47.000 I just meant the movie.

01:41:48.000 Yeah, the movie to me, I was like, I was in my freshman year high school when it started.

01:41:52.000 But it was 99, wasn't it?

01:41:52.000 Yeah, but that put me in like my sophomore year.

01:41:54.000 I was like, a year after the show came out is when the movie came out.

01:41:57.000 I didn't realize it was that fast.

01:41:58.000 Was it really?

01:41:59.000 That's what I mean.

01:42:00.000 So the show was out in 98?

01:42:02.000 97?

01:42:03.000 Oh.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, Fall of 97 I think is when it started.

01:42:05.000 They're the best.

01:42:06.000 One of my favorite characters, Butters.

01:42:08.000 I love how they've never...

01:42:09.000 Well, they kind of upgraded since then.

01:42:11.000 Since the Spirit of Christmas, what the animation looks like.

01:42:14.000 But not much.

01:42:15.000 Slightly.

01:42:15.000 Not much.

01:42:16.000 Did you see the documentary on how they make it?

01:42:17.000 Yeah.

01:42:18.000 That's brilliant.

01:42:18.000 What's it called?

01:42:19.000 Seven Days?

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:20.000 Is it what it's called?

01:42:21.000 Six Days.

01:42:22.000 It's fucking great. 0.99

01:42:22.000 And they get to that point and they got like nothing, right? 0.99

01:42:24.000 They got like two and a half minutes they got to fill.

01:42:26.000 And then they come up with something brilliant.

01:42:28.000 Yeah.

01:42:28.000 Like smacking it in San Diego or some other song.

01:42:32.000 Sometimes that kind of pressure creates diamonds.

01:42:35.000 It really does.

01:42:35.000 News radio, the sitcom that I was on, the writers would employ a similar tactic.

01:42:39.000 They would not write until like 2 o'clock in the morning.

01:42:42.000 And then they had a table reading the next day.

01:42:44.000 And then they would write.

01:42:45.000 Good God.

01:42:46.000 But then also they were loopy because they were tired.

01:42:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:42:49.000 And silly. 0.99

01:42:50.000 And so then they would come up with this brilliant, preposterous shit. 1.00

01:42:54.000 And sometimes I think that one of the strategies they employed is getting delirious from fatigue. 0.99

01:43:01.000 When you're overtired, sometimes your brain works in this weird way.

01:43:05.000 Now, I could have suggested to them marijuana.

01:43:08.000 And I think that would have done the same thing.

01:43:10.000 And you could have done it in the middle of the day.

01:43:11.000 And you would have been fine.

01:43:12.000 And you would have got a good night's sleep.

01:43:14.000 Let me ask you this question.

01:43:16.000 In all seriousness, From your perspective, do you think you're more creative when you're smoking weed or less?

01:43:22.000 No, I don't think it's less.

01:43:23.000 It's definitely a different kind of creative.

01:43:26.000 I think it opens up my brain to ideas that I don't necessarily think I would entertain if I was sober.

01:43:32.000 What happened?

01:43:33.000 The lights flashed.

01:43:35.000 It's the government!

01:43:35.000 It's the government.

01:43:37.000 They're coming in, and it's not because of the weed talk.

01:43:40.000 It's because of the Melania talk.

01:43:41.000 Make sure we're recording here.

01:43:42.000 Did it shut off?

01:43:43.000 No?

01:43:43.000 Nothing?

01:43:43.000 We're good?

01:43:46.000 Jesus.

01:43:46.000 That's strange.

01:43:47.000 It's just different.

01:43:49.000 Did you see there's some study today that came out, I put it on my Instagram page, that psilocybin is four times more effective for antidepressants than medication.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:43:59.000 And SSRIs.

01:44:00.000 Boy, I tell you what, anything they can do for that issue.

01:44:03.000 Yeah.

01:44:03.000 I mean, you think about the number of people on antidepressants.

01:44:05.000 Especially right now. 1.00

01:44:07.000 Oh, fuck, yeah. 1.00

01:44:07.000 Too many people during this pandemic have just lost everything and they're freaking out and suicides through the roof. 1.00

01:44:13.000 Through the roof.

01:44:14.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 And again, this idea that, ah, maybe fine.

01:44:17.000 We'll give them some cash.

01:44:18.000 They'll be fine.

01:44:18.000 It's no.

01:44:20.000 Well, that ship has sailed.

01:44:22.000 People have already lost their businesses, and they gave one $1,200 checkout months ago.

01:44:26.000 Like, how did they handle that so poorly?

01:44:29.000 Well, and then you look at this, and you think, okay, Pelosi, during her speech today, or she came out and gave a little presser.

01:44:35.000 I don't know if she took any questions, but it was like, Part of it was also this implication that now we're going to get to work on the next stimulus bill. 0.99

01:44:41.000 And I'm thinking, what the fuck have you been doing? 0.97

01:44:43.000 Obviously, clearly we're waiting for this election to go so that nobody gets credit except for you. 0.99

01:44:48.000 Exactly.

01:44:49.000 Exactly.

01:44:49.000 That's exactly what it is.

01:44:50.000 They didn't care about people's businesses and jobs.

01:44:53.000 They put politics ahead of everything.

01:44:54.000 And they banked everything on this re-election.

01:44:57.000 And I accuse these liberal governors of doing the same thing.

01:45:01.000 I think that is part of the reason why they kept things shut down.

01:45:04.000 I really do.

01:45:06.000 I don't doubt that for a minute.

01:45:08.000 Again, you know me, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I have no doubt that they weaponized this whole pandemic issue for political purposes, and they played it very, very well.

01:45:17.000 Look, this is going to sound wrong, but it's a horrific thing.

01:45:22.000 It's terrible.

01:45:22.000 You never wish it on anybody, but there's no doubt.

01:45:27.000 That this played into the DNC's or the Democratic Party's hands, and they took advantage in certain cases of it, right? 0.97

01:45:36.000 Because they'd been throwing shit at Trump for four years, and most of it didn't stick, no matter what they tried. 0.95

01:45:44.000 And this was the thing that worked for them, and they saw it pretty early on, right? 0.99

01:45:49.000 And they saw what the economy was doing, and that was his big ticket, right?

01:45:53.000 You know, running on the economy was his thing.

01:45:56.000 Yep.

01:45:56.000 And there was just the one thing that could take him down and...

01:46:01.000 It just shows you how dirty politics are.

01:46:03.000 They're willing to let untold thousands and maybe even millions of people lose their livelihoods just so that they could maintain political power.

01:46:12.000 It just shows you how dirty they are.

01:46:14.000 And by the way, across the board, I was going to say that.

01:46:18.000 It's not just one side of the other. 0.99

01:46:19.000 No, the Republicans would have done the same goddamn thing. 0.99

01:46:21.000 Oh, sure. 0.98

01:46:22.000 Yeah, just like the Dems right now, if it was flipped, they would be crying foul, as we've seen in the past, and they would be saying, we're going to investigate, and we're not giving a concession speech, we're going to take this to court.

01:46:34.000 Fine, it's the way it's played. 0.98

01:46:36.000 It's so fucking dysfunctional sometimes. 0.98

01:46:38.000 It's weird. 0.98

01:46:39.000 It's just such a weird, divided time in this country.

01:46:42.000 It makes me sad.

01:46:44.000 That's why we need mushrooms. 0.52

01:46:46.000 Yeah, that's sad.

01:46:47.000 Everybody's going to realize we're not that far apart in our ideas.

01:46:51.000 We're not talking about evil people that want to eat babies versus people that want to save babies.

01:46:56.000 The things that separate the right and the left, they're much smaller than we think.

01:47:00.000 They really are.

01:47:01.000 And the idea that America is somehow or another inherently evil and racist and terrible and...

01:47:08.000 That's not true.

01:47:10.000 What we are is we're the most innovative and creative country the world's ever known in terms of the impact we've had on culture.

01:47:17.000 There's so much to be proud of for being American, even though it's not like you asked to be American.

01:47:23.000 We were all born here.

01:47:24.000 We got lucky.

01:47:24.000 Or moved here because you got it.

01:47:26.000 You caught it early on and you realized once you got here, you could do a lot of shit here. 0.99

01:47:31.000 You can't do other places. 0.99

01:47:33.000 And it's pretty badass.

01:47:34.000 But it's not perfect.

01:47:36.000 And we could work together to make it better.

01:47:39.000 You don't have to demonize everyone that loves America.

01:47:42.000 Or you just have to accept the fact that not everybody thinks the same, right?

01:47:47.000 And going back to what I mentioned earlier, where it was like after the election, after it was clear it was going to be very, very close...

01:47:55.000 And some folks on the left came out and started talking about, well, you just can't save these 48 or 49%, meaning people that don't think like they or didn't vote for Biden. 1.00

01:48:05.000 You can't save them because they're hopeless, they're useless, they're stupid or bad. 1.00

01:48:11.000 That's a hell of a way to think, right? 1.00

01:48:13.000 And then I saw that guy that turned out to be anonymous, right?

01:48:17.000 Sort of that mid-level functionary.

01:48:20.000 Mid-levels being kind.

01:48:22.000 Yeah, I'm trying to be kind to him. 0.97

01:48:23.000 But he came out and he wrote this bullshit article or op-ed that basically said, well, you know, I thought it's not Washington that's broken, it's the American people. 0.94

01:48:33.000 Again, referencing anybody who didn't vote for Biden, right? 0.98

01:48:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:38.000 What are you talking about, fuckwit? 0.99

01:48:39.000 The American people aren't broken. 0.99

01:48:41.000 But that's the mindset that people have.

01:48:43.000 Exactly.

01:48:45.000 And I meant that jokingly.

01:48:46.000 I don't really mean that.

01:48:47.000 Of course I do mean it.

01:48:49.000 Well, he lied about it when he was talking to Anderson Cooper.

01:48:51.000 He lied about being anonymous.

01:48:53.000 Anderson Cooper, first of all.

01:48:55.000 Is Anderson Cooper CIA? He is, right?

01:48:58.000 You can tell us.

01:48:59.000 No one's listening.

01:48:59.000 No, okay.

01:49:00.000 Just between you and me?

01:49:01.000 No, he's not.

01:49:02.000 Oh, okay.

01:49:03.000 But he was, right?

01:49:04.000 No.

01:49:04.000 Didn't he work for the CIA at one point in time?

01:49:07.000 If he did...

01:49:09.000 And a lot of ums.

01:49:12.000 I don't like it.

01:49:13.000 I had never heard of that, but seriously.

01:49:15.000 What, do you get the whole Rolodex?

01:49:17.000 I'm not trying.

01:49:17.000 I do.

01:49:18.000 We actually still have a Rolodex.

01:49:21.000 We don't use a database.

01:49:22.000 We still have a big Rolodex, and you just got to chunk your way through it.

01:49:25.000 Vanderbilt oligarch heir, Anderson Cooper worked at CIA in college.

01:49:29.000 Oh, in college.

01:49:30.000 Okay, he was a summer intern.

01:49:32.000 Listen, bro, why would you be an intern unless you wanted to be a part of the agency?

01:49:36.000 A lot of guys get a job at a landscaping company. 0.99

01:49:39.000 They don't work for the fucking CIA. That's a great way to meet women. 1.00

01:49:42.000 You want to make money, you can drive for Uber, deliver pizzas. 0.99

01:49:45.000 You don't have to work for the goddamn CIA. He's a CIA operative working at CNN. He's a summer intern. 0.98

01:49:51.000 He's a little too smug and confident.

01:49:53.000 You think so?

01:49:54.000 Yeah, he's got some backing.

01:49:54.000 Look, he's too well-groomed to stay in the agency for any period of time.

01:50:00.000 You know what's fascinating to me?

01:50:02.000 Beyond that?

01:50:03.000 Beyond that.

01:50:04.000 It is fascinating, and I think we've confirmed he is CIA. Someone call Q. Alright, Cat's out of the bag.

01:50:13.000 He's still working there.

01:50:13.000 He seems to know.

01:50:14.000 He knew that guy was anonymous. 1.00

01:50:16.000 Because he gets the fucking emails. 1.00

01:50:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:19.000 Anyway, I didn't mean to call anonymous a fuckwit. 0.99

01:50:22.000 I did. 0.99

01:50:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:50:23.000 I take it back.

01:50:25.000 No, I mean, I take back the fact that I didn't mean to call him that.

01:50:27.000 Oh, you did. 0.96

01:50:30.000 It's just silly. 0.99

01:50:31.000 He seems more silly than he is anything. 0.98

01:50:34.000 But he was, remember, he was referred to as the senior official. 0.99

01:50:39.000 Yes, that's what silly I mean.

01:50:41.000 I mean, it's just like, come on, he's not a senior official.

01:50:43.000 But we don't trust...

01:50:44.000 But that would make it more exciting if he was.

01:50:47.000 Sure it would be.

01:50:48.000 Of course it would be.

01:50:48.000 And that's why they referred to him as such, because it pumps up the story.

01:50:51.000 Of course.

01:50:52.000 And people don't...

01:50:53.000 Tell everybody what he said.

01:50:56.000 I mean, it's a disparaging book about the Trump administration.

01:51:00.000 I don't even want to give it any time because I don't think it's deserving. 0.98

01:51:04.000 But not that there's things you couldn't talk about, but I have this thing about people who walk out of an administration, regardless of which one, Or walk out of an agency or wherever and write a fucking book. 0.97

01:51:16.000 I just... 0.99

01:51:16.000 I have a problem with it. 0.99

01:51:19.000 Just shut your yap, right? 0.88

01:51:20.000 Yeah, it's part of the gig, right?

01:51:22.000 Yeah, and don't...

01:51:23.000 If you didn't get enough hugs and you come out and you want to beat your own drum, well then...

01:51:28.000 I don't know.

01:51:31.000 We've gotten way too past the old point where people would just finish a job and you never ever knew that they'd...

01:51:39.000 There's too many opportunities for opportunists.

01:51:42.000 I sound like Wilford Brimley over here.

01:51:44.000 You sound good.

01:51:44.000 I like what you're saying.

01:51:45.000 There's too many opportunities for opportunists these days. 0.95

01:51:48.000 And I understand if you're a guy who works at, you know, fucking NBC or something, you want to write a tell-all book about... 0.96

01:51:54.000 Sure. 0.97

01:51:54.000 Whatever. 0.97

01:51:55.000 Right.

01:51:55.000 But this is not what we're talking about.

01:51:57.000 You're talking about someone who works at the highest levels of government.

01:52:00.000 You're supposed to have...

01:52:02.000 Don't they sign NDAs?

01:52:03.000 Yes.

01:52:04.000 Yeah.

01:52:04.000 And you're supposed to...

01:52:04.000 And, you know, like as an example, the agency has what they call a publications review board.

01:52:09.000 So if you're going to finish up with the outfit and you get out and you think, oh, my God, I want to write a book.

01:52:13.000 And I know a handful of folks who did, and they were very good books, but they don't talk about...

01:52:17.000 You know, it's not a tell-all.

01:52:19.000 It's not a...

01:52:19.000 And they're not disclosing sources and methods.

01:52:21.000 But the point being is they've got the PRB, and so you have to submit your transcript, and they go through it, and sometimes they'll edit things out, and sometimes they won't. 0.98

01:52:29.000 But the idea that you come out and you had an unsatisfactory experience and you want to complain about shit... 0.98

01:52:38.000 A little distasteful. 0.99

01:52:39.000 It's distasteful, yeah.

01:52:40.000 There's two things that I wanted to talk to you about before we got in here besides the election, in no particular order.

01:52:45.000 Aliens and George Soros.

01:52:49.000 Hey, how do you know they're not connected?

01:52:50.000 They might be connected.

01:52:52.000 But both of those things I find particularly fascinating.

01:52:57.000 I never knew that about you.

01:52:58.000 The George Soros thing just keeps coming up over and over and over again, where people that I know that are very intelligent and some that are very connected...

01:53:07.000 I think?

01:53:34.000 The trust in law enforcement and that there's some sort of organized campaign by him to do something to destroy the fabric of our democracy.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, sort of the one world government run by George Soros.

01:53:49.000 That's the Batman villain storyline.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, I think the truth is less exciting or interesting.

01:53:57.000 I think he's...

01:53:59.000 He puts a lot of money into a handful of organizations, and that money gets funneled out for various purposes, campaigns, supporting organizations.

01:54:11.000 There's no doubt I think that his worldview is somewhat different than mine.

01:54:21.000 But I don't think that Soros is, you know, running some campaign to take down America.

01:54:27.000 Why do you think people are so attracted to that idea?

01:54:29.000 Is it because of Batman movies?

01:54:31.000 Yeah, you know, everybody loves a big villain.

01:54:33.000 He's an evil-looking guy.

01:54:34.000 I mean, again, hey, I don't mean that wrong, but, you know, he can't help his appearance.

01:54:38.000 No offense.

01:54:38.000 No offense there.

01:54:38.000 You look like you could be in Star Wars.

01:54:40.000 Yeah, he's got that look about him.

01:54:44.000 You can see him in a black robe.

01:54:46.000 Vader, you know your directive.

01:54:49.000 He takes the helmet off.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, he does look at that.

01:54:53.000 He could do something about those bags under his eyes, frankly.

01:54:56.000 He doesn't want to.

01:54:57.000 He's got billions of dollars.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, I know.

01:54:58.000 What gets a person's rocks off when they have that much money and they're still trying to make more money and they're basically...

01:55:07.000 I mean, how old is he?

01:55:08.000 80?

01:55:09.000 How old is George Soros?

01:55:11.000 He's got to be in his 80s, right?

01:55:13.000 He's in the home stretch.

01:55:15.000 90. 90. 90. He's in the home stretch, kids.

01:55:19.000 Does it say how much money he's given away?

01:55:21.000 It says he's worth $8.6 billion.

01:55:24.000 I don't know about giving away.

01:55:25.000 He's not giving away.

01:55:26.000 Having donated more than $32 billion to the Open Society Foundation, according to Wikipedia.

01:55:31.000 Wow, he's worth eight and he's donated 32. That's a man committed.

01:55:34.000 Yeah.

01:55:35.000 And see, that's part of it.

01:55:36.000 That's crazy.

01:55:36.000 The connection to open society, I think, is probably what helps to fuel it.

01:55:39.000 But, I mean, you got a guy that...

01:55:41.000 What does that mean?

01:55:42.000 He's an easy...

01:55:43.000 What do you call it?

01:55:44.000 He's an easy...

01:55:45.000 He's an easy foil, an easy target to be...

01:55:49.000 I mean, it's like the Koch brothers.

01:55:51.000 There's no difference, right?

01:55:52.000 It's just one side blames the Koch brothers for...

01:55:54.000 Right.

01:55:55.000 You know, trying to take over America and one side blames Soros.

01:56:00.000 So...

01:56:01.000 What is that organization, Jamie?

01:56:03.000 Open Society.

01:56:05.000 Oh.

01:56:07.000 The Open Society Foundation support individuals and organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression, accountable government, and societies that promote justice and equality.

01:56:16.000 Well, that sounds good.

01:56:17.000 It does sound good, doesn't it?

01:56:18.000 That's what's confusing.

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:19.000 So all these people that think he's evil...

01:56:21.000 Truth and justice.

01:56:22.000 I mean, but if I was going to be evil, I would hide behind something like that.

01:56:25.000 It sounds like a perfect cover.

01:56:26.000 And you can imagine some of that money getting eventually funneled, making its way to organizations.

01:56:31.000 I'm not saying it's happening, but an organization like Antifa or whatever.

01:56:35.000 Right.

01:56:35.000 You know, the theory being, oh, no, we're trying to promote...

01:56:39.000 If you wrap yourself in the cloak of promoting equality and justice, most people aren't going to push back because they don't want to look like a dick, right? 0.98

01:56:45.000 Right. 1.00

01:56:45.000 You can get away with a lot of shit. 1.00

01:56:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:56:47.000 So you don't... 1.00

01:56:48.000 But anybody who's got...

01:56:50.000 This is one of my things.

01:56:53.000 If you're going to give money to an organization, do a little investigating first.

01:56:58.000 Find out how much of it goes into people's pockets and actually where the money goes and what it's used for.

01:57:03.000 Sometimes it's easier than not, and if it's difficult to find that information out, give your money somewhere else, right?

01:57:08.000 Because it's not—there should be transparency around any operation that's asking you for a donation or for your money.

01:57:14.000 But Soros, when he funnels that money in, makes its way through—it's like a pachinko machine, right?

01:57:20.000 It's just kicking all over the place, right?

01:57:22.000 It's no surprise, but...

01:57:24.000 So do you think it's just that it's an easy target for someone who's looking for, like, one person who's the puppet master, who's pulling all the strings?

01:57:34.000 Right.

01:57:34.000 Everybody loves...

01:57:35.000 It's a simplistic way of looking at things, right?

01:57:37.000 Yeah.

01:57:37.000 And I'm not saying that Source isn't funding groups that wouldn't piss people off, I guess, but, you know...

01:57:43.000 There's more to it.

01:57:44.000 There's more to it than that, but it's like the Kennedy assassination.

01:57:49.000 Nobody wanted to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald could do something as an individual that was so horrific.

01:57:55.000 All right, now you're gonna lose me. 0.99

01:57:56.000 If you really think he did that by himself, this fucking conversation's over. 0.98

01:57:59.000 No, I'm not saying that he did it by himself. 0.98

01:58:01.000 What I'm saying is that people don't want to think that, right?

01:58:04.000 Because it's not true.

01:58:05.000 But you close out the possibility that it could be true.

01:58:08.000 Are you saying it's true?

01:58:09.000 I'm saying that there's a possibility. 0.99

01:58:10.000 There's not a fucking way in hell. 0.99

01:58:11.000 I'm saying there's a possibility. 0.99

01:58:13.000 What about the bullet?

01:58:13.000 You can't take that off.

01:58:15.000 The magic bullet?

01:58:15.000 You can't take it off the table, the magic bullet.

01:58:17.000 You can't take that right off the table, because it was on a table.

01:58:19.000 It was actually on the gurney that Connelly was rolled in on.

01:58:22.000 Oh, look, we found the bullet.

01:58:23.000 Case closed.

01:58:25.000 Cleaned it up all nice.

01:58:26.000 I guess my point though, before we descend into the madness, is that you don't want to remove options when you're looking.

01:58:35.000 And if you can't say, I mean, maybe you can say, if you can say 100%, there's no doubt.

01:58:39.000 I tell you, I'm not closing the door on the percentage chance that Lee Harvey Oswald did that on his own for his own reasons.

01:58:47.000 And his own resources and ability to do it. 0.99

01:58:51.000 I will say the MLK, Martin Luther King assassination is one where if I have to say, look, there's definitely shit here. 0.99

01:58:58.000 We talked about that before, and it does seem like there's shit there. 0.97

01:59:01.000 What it seems to me is that the CIA definitely killed Kennedy, and that's why you are making it seem like it's most likely that Oswald... 0.97

01:59:09.000 What else do you think I'm going to do?

01:59:12.000 I'm kidding when I say that. 0.99

01:59:14.000 That fucking magic bullet theory, only a child who's never shot a gun understands or would look at that theory and think it makes sense. 1.00

01:59:23.000 If you shot a gun before, if you know what happens when bullets hit bone, there's no fucking way. 1.00

01:59:28.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

01:59:29.000 The fuck on. 1.00

01:59:31.000 That shot through two people, shattered bone in the wrist of Connelly. 1.00

01:59:36.000 Looks pretty clean. 0.99

01:59:36.000 Yeah, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:59:38.000 And wound up magically in the gurney. 0.99

01:59:39.000 And oh, by the way, there's more bullet fragments in Connelly's body than we're missing from that bullet. 1.00

01:59:46.000 So, fuck you? 1.00

01:59:49.000 Well, I'm just saying. 1.00

01:59:50.000 I'm just saying.

01:59:51.000 Until they close that case completely, and nobody ever has completely.

01:59:56.000 But I guess, again, going back to the bigger point, if I had one.

02:00:00.000 Look at that bullet again.

02:00:01.000 Can I see that bullet again?

02:00:02.000 Put that bullet up one more time.

02:00:03.000 Oh, here it goes.

02:00:03.000 Here comes that drawing.

02:00:04.000 This is the official government drawing.

02:00:07.000 See?

02:00:08.000 Here's the thing that's wrong with that, though.

02:00:10.000 Sorry, I got to blow my nose here.

02:00:12.000 The thing that's wrong with that picture.

02:00:14.000 Yes, I did.

02:00:15.000 The photo.

02:00:15.000 Show that picture again.

02:00:17.000 Okay.

02:00:17.000 Yeah.

02:00:17.000 Hand drawing.

02:00:18.000 Here's what people don't understand why this is not as ridiculous as the bullet. 0.99

02:00:23.000 Because bullets do weird shit when they hit things. 0.99

02:00:26.000 They do. 0.77

02:00:26.000 And I know a guy who... 0.77

02:00:28.000 How do I put this?

02:00:31.000 Shot a person in war in the face, and the bullet literally came out the same way it went in. 0.95

02:00:40.000 Went in the guy's head, ricocheted around the skull, and came out the front.

02:00:45.000 Yeah, I've seen forensics on that same thing before. 0.99

02:00:51.000 Crazy shit happens when bullets hit. 0.96

02:00:53.000 But it's not that crazy. 1.00

02:00:56.000 They don't come out looking like that.

02:00:58.000 That's not a bullet that shattered bone.

02:00:59.000 It's just not.

02:01:01.000 And people go, oh, the bullet's way more distorted than that.

02:01:04.000 That particular image is a deceptive angle. 1.00

02:01:07.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:01:08.000 Just fuck you. 1.00

02:01:09.000 It's not a lot of deception. 1.00

02:01:10.000 Look at that.

02:01:12.000 You got a little dent there. 1.00

02:01:15.000 They shot that fucking thing into a swimming pool, kids. 1.00

02:01:19.000 There's not a chance in hell that went through a couple people. 1.00

02:01:22.000 Oh, look.

02:01:22.000 See?

02:01:23.000 See?

02:01:23.000 The tip.

02:01:25.000 You can see some of the lead.

02:01:27.000 But my point, my overall point, should I have one, is that with Soros, I mean, people like, you know, that's why conspiracy theories and other things exist, right, and continue to exist, is because it's a fascinating concept, it's a fascinating story.

02:01:42.000 You can look at Soros and go, yes, you're running from a secret lair somewhere under a volcano, an effort to take down America, right?

02:01:51.000 Okay, that's, you know, that's one theory.

02:01:55.000 Anyway.

02:01:56.000 We're all programmed by movies, right?

02:02:00.000 These narratives that there is one secret evil person that wants everything to go down.

02:02:05.000 And those narratives, they're very compelling.

02:02:08.000 And we've had them in our lives for so long.

02:02:11.000 So many people have these sort of simplistic portraits of the world that they've adopted because of movies.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, and we like a beginning, a middle, and an end.

02:02:21.000 People like things to be all wrapped up, right?

02:02:24.000 Let me see that picture of the bullet with the goat.

02:02:26.000 That was a little disturbing, that a similar bullet went through a goat, that one on the bottom.

02:02:34.000 I had no idea they had a goat.

02:02:35.000 It's a bullet fired through a goat, most closely duplicating Connelly's chest wounds. 0.99

02:02:39.000 Not just his chest wounds, you fucks, his wrist, too. 0.99

02:02:42.000 And then just the fact they found it on his gurney. 0.99

02:02:45.000 Oh, whoops.

02:02:46.000 We found it.

02:02:47.000 Under no circumstance do I feel that this bullet could have hit a wrist and still not be deformed.

02:02:51.000 We proved that by experiments.

02:02:53.000 Chief consultant and wound ballistic for the U.S. Army who supervised tests for the Warren Commission.

02:02:59.000 Exactly.

02:03:00.000 That other photo, if it did go through a goat, let me tell you something, kids. 1.00

02:03:04.000 That fucking thing got a pass-through. 1.00

02:03:07.000 It probably went right in between the ribs. 1.00

02:03:09.000 And even then I don't buy it because it probably hit the ground somewhere.

02:03:12.000 That'd have to be that goat. 1.00

02:03:13.000 One day you're out there eating grass and ivy.

02:03:16.000 How about they did it through a hundred goats until I got a bullet that came out good?

02:03:21.000 This is what we're looking for. 1.00

02:03:22.000 Even then I think it's horse shit. 1.00

02:03:24.000 I've shot animals before. 1.00

02:03:26.000 When you shoot an animal with a bullet, man, those bullets come out super deformed. 0.68

02:03:31.000 Yeah, of course.

02:03:31.000 They mushroom.

02:03:32.000 They come out looking great.

02:03:34.000 Because bullets aren't supposed...

02:03:35.000 Here's the thing for people to understand.

02:03:38.000 Bullets are designed to change shape when they hit things because it does more damage.

02:03:43.000 So when you see a bullet that's mushroomed out, the impact of that bullet hitting an animal forces it to mushroom out.

02:03:51.000 It creates a lot of trauma and shock and that's what kills the animal.

02:03:57.000 A bullet that goes through something like that would create like a pencil hole.

02:04:01.000 It wouldn't do nearly as much damage.

02:04:03.000 It would be far less effective.

02:04:04.000 And they would re-engineer the bullet to have more of a deformity when it hits things.

02:04:10.000 Because there's a value in bullets deforming when they hit things. 0.99

02:04:14.000 That value is it creates a deeper, more fucked up... 0.99

02:04:17.000 More internal damage, yeah. 0.99

02:04:19.000 Bullets don't act like that.

02:04:20.000 The only exception, and this is a recent exception, they use solid copper bullets in some cases.

02:04:28.000 And even those solid copper bullets, they get to mushroom out.

02:04:31.000 Because I shot an elk in California with a rifle, and we use copper bullets.

02:04:37.000 Because California has laws against lead.

02:04:40.000 Oh, of course, yeah.

02:04:41.000 And I have the bullet at home. 0.99

02:04:43.000 It came out all fucked up like that. 0.99

02:04:45.000 There's the other bullets they have. 0.98

02:04:47.000 Oh, that they did the same thing with?

02:04:48.000 Yeah.

02:04:48.000 I guess these were found evidence.

02:04:51.000 At the scene?

02:04:52.000 A fragment of a bullet that fatally wounded the president would be this one.

02:04:56.000 Yeah, that makes more sense.

02:04:57.000 Look at that. 0.99

02:04:58.000 It's a fucking chunk that looks like it exploded. 1.00

02:05:01.000 The other one looks perfect. 0.99

02:05:04.000 The other thing that drives me crazy is people say, well, to lean the other way, they say, well, the scope on the rifle wasn't even lined up right. 0.95

02:05:13.000 Well, how the fuck do you know it wasn't lined up right? 0.93

02:05:15.000 All you have to do is drop a rifle and the scope is off. 0.99

02:05:18.000 Yeah.

02:05:19.000 Yeah, it's exactly right.

02:05:20.000 And also, it was a very easy shot.

02:05:21.000 I mean, I will say that.

02:05:22.000 It wasn't that hard.

02:05:23.000 No, it wasn't hard at all.

02:05:24.000 Everybody says no one could have made that shot.

02:05:26.000 Like, I could have made that shot.

02:05:29.000 I'm not even good.

02:05:30.000 You got a slow-moving vehicle moving away from you in line.

02:05:33.000 Exactly.

02:05:33.000 It's not turning.

02:05:34.000 It's no wind.

02:05:35.000 And you have a rest.

02:05:36.000 You got a good light.

02:05:36.000 You got a rest.

02:05:37.000 You're leaning off the window.

02:05:39.000 That 100% could have been made by a person.

02:05:41.000 Yeah.

02:05:42.000 And not just one shot.

02:05:43.000 I think they could have got off all three.

02:05:44.000 I think that's provable too.

02:05:46.000 I think especially you're all jacked up with adrenaline and you've been practicing, racking those bullets in there.

02:05:51.000 You could have got it off.

02:05:52.000 That part of it is...

02:05:55.000 I think that is easy to understand.

02:06:01.000 Again, not to disappear down that rabbit hole. 0.87

02:06:06.000 I do find it always interesting because I'm still fascinated by the Martin Luther King thing because it's It's a rare day when I look at something and go, yeah, that really is horseshit there.

02:06:15.000 Well, you were talking about how James Earl Ray, the guy who shot Martin Luther King, was funded. 0.97

02:06:23.000 Like, clearly he was a loser, had nothing going on in his life. 0.81

02:06:26.000 We talked about this before. 0.99

02:06:27.000 Right, right. 0.78

02:06:28.000 Yeah, he's just a petty criminal and not a good one, right?

02:06:31.000 Always caught.

02:06:32.000 Always, always caught.

02:06:33.000 And, you know, then suddenly he manages to reinvent himself, goes on the road, disappears, lays low, comes out, you know, looks like a professor when he ends up in Europe after the shooting, you know,

02:06:50.000 buys a Mustang, you know, for cash, you know, more cash than the kid probably or the guy I probably ever saw.

02:06:58.000 It's just, there's too many things here that just make it look like that.

02:07:03.000 So I'm not a, again, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I look at that one and I go, you know, over all these years, and we weren't able to kind of get to the bottom of it, you know, speaks to sort of the, I don't know,

02:07:19.000 the sinister nature of it, I think.

02:07:21.000 I... I would never say I'm not a conspiracy guy because I love conspiracies.

02:07:26.000 I think they're awesome.

02:07:27.000 They're so much fun.

02:07:30.000 But I don't buy all of them. 1.00

02:07:31.000 I think there's a lot of them that are bullshit. 0.99

02:07:33.000 But a lot of them are real. 0.99

02:07:34.000 That's the problem with the term conspiracy theorist. 0.99

02:07:37.000 People don't ever want to be called a conspiracy theorist because it makes you look like a fool. 1.00

02:07:41.000 Fortunately for me, everyone knows I'm a fool. 0.99

02:07:44.000 So I can say that I enjoy conspiracies. 0.98

02:07:49.000 But I also can say, if I'm being honest...

02:07:52.000 I know that for sure people have conspired to do things.

02:07:56.000 In particular, when you're talking about in the 1960s, there's evidence, there's a tremendous amount of evidence that people conspired to do a lot of different things.

02:08:06.000 I mean, there's so much evidence that, you know, there's like, first of all, the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

02:08:15.000 That got us into the Vietnam War.

02:08:17.000 That's a conspiracy.

02:08:18.000 That's a proven conspiracy.

02:08:20.000 They lied about attacks on America so that they could get us into the Vietnam War. 0.74

02:08:25.000 That's a conspiracy.

02:08:27.000 How about Operation Northwoods?

02:08:29.000 That's a conspiracy signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

02:08:33.000 They were going to fake attacks on American civilians.

02:08:37.000 They were going to blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on Cuba.

02:08:41.000 They were going to arm Cuban friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay. 0.83

02:08:46.000 Signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

02:08:48.000 Vetoed by Kennedy.

02:08:49.000 That is a conspiracy.

02:08:50.000 This was all during that same time period.

02:08:53.000 I don't even know if a conspiracy is the right word for it.

02:08:55.000 It's a plan.

02:08:56.000 It's a plan.

02:08:57.000 That's an operational plan, right?

02:08:59.000 They conspired to do it.

02:09:01.000 Yeah, that's good.

02:09:01.000 Okay, fine.

02:09:02.000 All right.

02:09:03.000 Isn't that what a conspiracy is?

02:09:04.000 I guess that is a conspiracy.

02:09:06.000 The problem is the term.

02:09:07.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:09:08.000 The term makes you seem like a fucking idiot. 1.00

02:09:10.000 Yeah, like you're putting on a tinfoil hat. 1.00

02:09:12.000 So serious people, which fortunately for me, I'm not one of those, serious people that want to be taken seriously, they tend to shy away from conspiracies.

02:09:21.000 Yeah.

02:09:22.000 Conspire.

02:09:22.000 But I smoke a lot of marijuana, and so I like those conspiracies.

02:09:26.000 I find them attractive.

02:09:27.000 I go, huh.

02:09:31.000 Hence the UFO thing.

02:09:33.000 Ah, the aliens.

02:09:35.000 So last time I saw you, I don't think the Pentagon had come out, because it was actually during the pandemic where the Pentagon came out.

02:09:41.000 I don't think we talked about this last time, did we?

02:09:44.000 I don't think so.

02:09:44.000 Where they said they've recovered alien crafts.

02:09:48.000 They said, we have recovered crafts that are not from this world.

02:09:53.000 Is that exactly what they said? 1.00

02:09:55.000 Pull it up, young jerk. 1.00

02:09:56.000 Pull that up, that exact quote from the Pentagon. 1.00

02:10:00.000 The Pentagon didn't say it, yeah.

02:10:02.000 That was the guy from Vegas, the guy from Nevada.

02:10:06.000 What is his name?

02:10:08.000 Was he a senator?

02:10:10.000 From Nevada?

02:10:11.000 Harry Reid?

02:10:12.000 Harry Reid, yeah.

02:10:13.000 Former Senator?

02:10:13.000 Pentagon former contractor was the one that said it.

02:10:16.000 Oh, you're thinking of...

02:10:17.000 He's got an aerospace business out there that was funded in part by taxpayer money.

02:10:25.000 It was sort of a pet project of Harry Reid's in a sense.

02:10:28.000 I'm struggling to remember the guy's name.

02:10:30.000 I should remember it because we've talked about it.

02:10:32.000 Lear?

02:10:33.000 No.

02:10:34.000 No.

02:10:36.000 Aerospace buddy of Harry Reid's.

02:10:38.000 Can we Google that?

02:10:38.000 Is that the Skinwalker Ranch guy?

02:10:41.000 No, no.

02:10:44.000 This guy, they've actually still got a business.

02:10:46.000 He's still developing.

02:10:47.000 Right now, I think what he's trying to do is develop portable living operations.

02:10:53.000 Yeah, that is the Skinwalker Ranch guy.

02:10:55.000 That is, right?

02:10:56.000 Yeah.

02:10:56.000 Okay, sure.

02:10:56.000 That is the guy.

02:10:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:10:58.000 I know who you're talking about.

02:10:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:11:00.000 The name's on the tip of my tongue.

02:11:01.000 I know.

02:11:03.000 But if he's the one who said it, then yeah, it doesn't come from the government.

02:11:07.000 You know, the ATIP, which is that Advanced Aeronautical Threat Identification Program, I mean, I think the most interesting thing that the government has come out and said is that, yes, we did have a...

02:11:18.000 We did have an operation within the Pentagon, an office within the Pentagon that was there to identify unidentified threats, right?

02:11:29.000 So we get something up in the air and we can't identify it.

02:11:32.000 It's like the Tic Tac sightings by...

02:11:36.000 David Fravor.

02:11:37.000 David Fravor, for anybody who's interested in this, please listen to him on the Lex Friedman podcast.

02:11:43.000 Because I had him on, but I had him on with Jeremy Corbell, who's the documentarian behind that Bob Lazar movie.

02:11:50.000 And by himself, Fravor and Lex, they get deep into...

02:11:58.000 I think?

02:12:20.000 I've talked to him a handful of times.

02:12:22.000 I've sat and reviewed the gun camera footage with him as he's walked through it.

02:12:28.000 Very credible, right?

02:12:29.000 So that was a perfect example of why they had set up AATIP within the Pentagon.

02:12:37.000 Apparently not funded anymore as an operating office. 0.96

02:12:41.000 Because they probably got some new shit that they can't tell you about. 0.96

02:12:43.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:12:43.000 Because that one got out there. 0.99

02:12:44.000 Gotta close it down.

02:12:45.000 That's in the New York Times already.

02:12:46.000 That's what you do.

02:12:47.000 That is what they do, right?

02:12:48.000 Yeah.

02:12:48.000 Well, I mean...

02:12:49.000 Or you reallocate the...

02:12:51.000 It's all on the budgets, which is, again, kind of why we do this show for Science Channel called Black Files, because we're chasing the budgets.

02:12:58.000 We finally got to that.

02:12:59.000 I know, right?

02:13:00.000 Jesus Christ.

02:13:01.000 I know.

02:13:01.000 We're two hours in.

02:13:02.000 I got like two other promos to do I haven't even touched yet. 0.99

02:13:05.000 So fucking hell, people are thinking, wow, he's really slow this time. 0.98

02:13:09.000 But yeah, if you follow the money, it's like an investigation, right? 0.99

02:13:13.000 Not so much follow the money, but if you start pulling on those threads around budgets or It's like with investigation and asset tracing.

02:13:19.000 Getting bank records is absolutely key if you can legally get them during the course of an investigation.

02:13:27.000 But with military operations, oftentimes those budgets for the most interesting projects and operational elements We're good to go.

02:13:55.000 We're looking at some pretty interesting things, and it speaks to where programs are going currently, right?

02:14:04.000 You look at some things in the recent past, and you say, okay, this is where this new development is heading.

02:14:08.000 And isn't it—it's an interesting conversation, too, because for people that don't like secrecy, and they don't think we should have secrecy— For national security and for the development of things like the stealth bomber or like a lot of other things that show that we have military superiority over our enemies,

02:14:30.000 it's important to have secrecy.

02:14:33.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

02:14:34.000 You can't function as a secure and safe and lasting republic without it, right?

02:14:40.000 There's just no way.

02:14:40.000 Now, you know, people will say, oh, we should have transparency around everything.

02:14:44.000 No, no, you got to draw the line.

02:14:47.000 You want to not overdo it, right?

02:14:51.000 That's where I was going to get to, the overdo it part.

02:14:53.000 But you've got to have the ability to protect sources and methods.

02:14:57.000 You've got to have a sort of a need-to-know policy around certain things within national security concerns and the intelligence community.

02:15:07.000 But yeah, again, it can be used as a weapon.

02:15:11.000 You can, again, overdo it.

02:15:14.000 But if you don't have security, you don't have the Manhattan Project.

02:15:17.000 Right.

02:15:17.000 Absolutely.

02:15:19.000 You don't have many things that keep us safe.

02:15:26.000 China.

02:15:27.000 Look at this.

02:15:28.000 Now I'm deep into the show and I'm just now bashing China for their theft of economic intelligence. 1.00

02:15:32.000 But you look at the effort that they make in terms of stealing our intellectual property and research and development, right?

02:15:38.000 I mean, the idea that you don't protect your most critical information, whether it's operationally important or whether it's just, again, R&D for development of materials, and that speaks to the strength of your economy.

02:15:56.000 So yes, certain things have to be kept secret.

02:16:00.000 But again, you can overclassify things, which tends to happen, right?

02:16:04.000 You tend to just—because you're trying to protect everything, right?

02:16:06.000 So I'm just going to overclassify, and that also creates a problem then.

02:16:10.000 So trying to strike a balance, it's a humor in endeavor, so you never really get it right, I don't think, but— Well, this is where people feel like the line, when it comes to alien spacecrafts and if the government knows and is aware of alien spacecrafts and alien technology,

02:16:28.000 this is where the line of secrecy and being sworn to oath, where it crosses over into a need to know for the general public.

02:16:37.000 Bob Lazar's story.

02:16:38.000 The story about him working for S4. He was a physicist for Los Alamos Labs.

02:16:44.000 That's been proven.

02:16:45.000 He was on the employee list there.

02:16:47.000 He also was listed in a newspaper article when he put a jet engine in a Honda that he was a physicist at Los Alamos Labs and he was a propulsion expert.

02:17:00.000 Says he worked for Area S4 and says he was hired to back engineer UFOs and says they never could figure out how these things worked and that they were never going to because they really couldn't because they were trying to keep everything secret.

02:17:12.000 They couldn't share all this information with the general scientific community.

02:17:17.000 And he's like, science doesn't work in these containment bubbles.

02:17:20.000 You can't compartmentalize science and have only a few small propulsion experts sit around and try to figure this thing out and then they fire and bring new guys in and No one ever gets it.

02:17:31.000 Right.

02:17:31.000 Which is what you can use against.

02:17:32.000 I mean, if I'm trying to pull information out of another nation, right, if I'm targeting intelligence from, you know, and they're developing some new ballistic missile system or whatever it is, propulsion system, then yes, I'm going to play off of that desire on the part of engineers and scientists to have a collaborative community,

02:17:53.000 right?

02:17:53.000 And that's And the Chinese do that very well, right?

02:17:56.000 Particularly when they target Chinese Americans working here in the US in potentially sensitive positions.

02:18:02.000 This idea that we're all working together and this is just what we should be doing.

02:18:10.000 My company has done work trying to protect information for companies, pharmaceutical companies is a good example.

02:18:20.000 Where the scientists, the engineers, the doctors need that free flow in their mind.

02:18:25.000 They've got to have this free flow and this collaborating and this sharing of information.

02:18:29.000 And meanwhile, you've got the other side, you know, where the bean counters and security personnel and all that, and they're going like, no, this is the lifeblood of our company.

02:18:36.000 We can't risk losing this information, so we've got to lock it down to the degree we can.

02:18:41.000 Those two things don't necessarily coexist all that well together, but you've got to try to find some medium.

02:18:46.000 So, yeah, I think...

02:18:48.000 You know, there's—the fact that the government came out and talked about ATIP, I thought was a big step, right?

02:18:58.000 That's a big deal for them, right?

02:19:00.000 I mean, that they would discuss that.

02:19:04.000 Do I think that they're hiding—you know, again, I wouldn't take anything off the table, frankly, because I don't know.

02:19:13.000 So it would be stupid of me to say, no, they definitely aren't holding on to some— Propulsion system that, you know, isn't of this world, or whatever.

02:19:26.000 If I don't know it, I can't say absolutely not, but...

02:19:30.000 Wouldn't you want to know, though?

02:19:32.000 Oh, sure.

02:19:32.000 Yeah, yeah, but how...

02:19:34.000 I mean, you know, what do you do?

02:19:36.000 Grease a few palms.

02:19:37.000 Is that it?

02:19:38.000 Yeah.

02:19:39.000 Get in there.

02:19:40.000 I want to see it.

02:19:41.000 Yeah.

02:19:41.000 I guess you could do that.

02:19:42.000 I'd let the government know right now.

02:19:44.000 Listen.

02:19:44.000 Yeah.

02:19:45.000 I'll say a lot of shit that's not true. 0.99

02:19:47.000 Just get me to the UFOs. 1.00

02:19:49.000 Show me the UFOs and I'll lie.

02:19:52.000 Oh, gosh.

02:19:53.000 Yeah.

02:19:54.000 No, we're doing...

02:19:54.000 It is...

02:19:56.000 It's not true.

02:19:57.000 I'm lying.

02:19:57.000 I'm telling you right now.

02:19:58.000 Don't tell me.

02:19:59.000 I'm lying.

02:19:59.000 Because if you tell me, I'm telling everybody.

02:20:01.000 He's telling everybody.

02:20:02.000 That's a lie.

02:20:03.000 Look, they know that.

02:20:04.000 I'm sure they know that.

02:20:04.000 They know that.

02:20:05.000 They're writing it down right now.

02:20:06.000 Whatever happens, happens.

02:20:08.000 It's too bad.

02:20:08.000 Because I really want to know.

02:20:10.000 I would tell everybody.

02:20:11.000 I agree with you.

02:20:11.000 Anybody who's interested...

02:20:13.000 Pay attention to...

02:20:14.000 Look, there's a handful of interviews with Fravor, Commander Fravor.

02:20:18.000 Yes.

02:20:19.000 But the Lex Friedman one is my favorite.

02:20:21.000 It's because they go on for, I think it's three and a half hours.

02:20:24.000 It's really good.

02:20:25.000 And they talk about all kinds of things, about flying and pilots and...

02:20:28.000 And the fact that you always have the same two pilots working together, the pilot and the co-pilot, and they, you know, in the military, it's very different than civilian airliners that these guys work together, they understand each other, and they develop sort of the way Lex described it as sort of a mind meld between the two.

02:20:45.000 It's a really good interview, and he goes into depth about also the criticisms by these debunkers that don't understand the equipment.

02:20:53.000 They don't understand what they're saying.

02:20:56.000 When they're trying to debunk it, they're debunking it in a preposterous way.

02:21:00.000 They really don't understand what happened.

02:21:02.000 That thing that they followed went from 60,000 feet down to one feet above sea level in less than a second.

02:21:10.000 And it's not like it wasn't picked up on radar.

02:21:12.000 Exactly.

02:21:12.000 It's not like it's just one person or the guys in that particular platform that saw it.

02:21:18.000 So, yeah, it's a really compelling, fascinating example of this, and still unexplained, right?

02:21:27.000 Obviously, still unexplained.

02:21:28.000 Still unexplained, and when Fravor talked about it, when he first saw it, he was communicating with the other people that were on the other end of the radio, and they were saying, we are in contact with these things all the time.

02:21:40.000 We see these things every few weeks.

02:21:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:43.000 They don't know what the fuck it is. 0.99

02:21:44.000 And he described it in depth. 0.99

02:21:47.000 I'm doing a disservice by paraphrasing him. 0.99

02:21:50.000 But he was saying, okay, guys, what the fuck is this? 0.98

02:21:54.000 And they were saying, yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:21:56.000 Right.

02:21:56.000 And we've been seeing these.

02:21:57.000 Every couple weeks, we'll see one.

02:21:58.000 We don't know what it is.

02:21:59.000 We have no idea.

02:22:00.000 It was well aware that they were following it.

02:22:03.000 It blocked their tracking.

02:22:05.000 Right.

02:22:06.000 Face them.

02:22:07.000 And no visible sign of a propulsion system.

02:22:11.000 No heat signatures.

02:22:13.000 No nothing.

02:22:14.000 And then moved off in an insane rate of speed to the point where they couldn't track with the human eye.

02:22:18.000 And it disappeared and then reappeared 30 miles away.

02:22:22.000 They were saying the way the thing moved, they can't explain it.

02:22:26.000 And they think there's something under the water as well.

02:22:28.000 I think it was hovering over the water and there was actually something that was actually under the water.

02:22:34.000 Yeah.

02:22:35.000 Some dolphin.

02:22:36.000 An octopus.

02:22:38.000 The boss.

02:22:39.000 Boss octopus.

02:22:40.000 It's pulling the levers.

02:22:43.000 Yeah, you know, again, it is.

02:22:45.000 It's fun.

02:22:47.000 It's fun, man.

02:22:48.000 It's fun. 0.99

02:22:49.000 But do I think that there's aliens that they come periodically visit and just observe and go, oh, fuck this, and then leave? 0.96

02:22:58.000 It does raise the question as to why we, if they've actually visited and they've been here, are they just for observation and then they get fed up with the way we act? 0.96

02:23:06.000 Well, I think if you were observing another advanced civilization, like say if we...

02:23:13.000 Here's a good example.

02:23:14.000 I will say that.

02:23:14.000 I mean, it's all relative, right?

02:23:16.000 Because if we're looking at that and we say, okay, say the Tic Tac was from some other world, then them looking at us, they're not going to look at us and go, well, that's an advanced civilization.

02:23:28.000 Of course they would.

02:23:29.000 Yeah, I think they'd look at us and go, like, okay, it's some rudimentary life, but...

02:23:33.000 See, I don't buy that.

02:23:34.000 No, you don't think so?

02:23:35.000 No. 1.00

02:23:35.000 Because we study fucking butterflies. 1.00

02:23:38.000 How many assholes spend most of their life looking at bugs? 1.00

02:23:40.000 Well, maybe to whatever this is. 1.00

02:23:42.000 We're nothing more than a butterfly.

02:23:45.000 Right, and so why wouldn't they observe us the way we observe bugs?

02:23:50.000 People spend their whole life tracking sloths.

02:23:54.000 They really do.

02:23:55.000 There's a lot of people that spend their whole life studying plants.

02:24:00.000 The idea that we, if we found an advanced life form, say if we went to another planet and we found some early Neanderthal types that were just starting to use flint tools, we would study them hard.

02:24:13.000 We would be fascinated.

02:24:15.000 Even if they were like, oh my god, they're like 300,000 years behind where we are right now.

02:24:21.000 We would still follow them. 1.00

02:24:22.000 We could fuck them up badly by giving them social media. 1.00

02:24:25.000 And I think one of the things we would do is we would probably try to do it secretly. 0.99

02:24:28.000 The same way we do with indigenous tribes. 0.85

02:24:31.000 Like North Sentinel Island.

02:24:32.000 That's that island off the Indian Ocean that has a small population of people.

02:24:36.000 I think it's down to like 39 people.

02:24:39.000 And it's like against international law to visit.

02:24:42.000 And that one guy went and visited a couple of years ago and they lit him up with arrows.

02:24:46.000 Remember that guy?

02:24:46.000 Yeah, I remember that.

02:24:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:47.000 He's going to show him Jesus, came around with the Bible.

02:24:52.000 That's a perfect example.

02:24:53.000 You're not supposed to go there.

02:24:55.000 Those are human beings, just like you or me.

02:24:57.000 But they have the misfortune of developing on this very small island where their ancestors left Africa 60,000 years ago.

02:25:07.000 Yeah.

02:25:07.000 Some people might look at what we're going through right now this past week and think it's not such a misfortune.

02:25:11.000 Maybe.

02:25:12.000 What the hell?

02:25:13.000 It's looking pretty good.

02:25:14.000 Well, with them, I think there's a lot of inbreeding because there's such a small genetic sample.

02:25:20.000 So it's a small genetic group to draw from.

02:25:23.000 But I think that if aliens came here from another planet, first of all, they would know for sure that we already split the atom.

02:25:28.000 They would know that we have the power of nuclear weapons and that we have enough nuclear weapons aimed at each other to decimate all life on Earth multiple times over. 0.98

02:25:39.000 I think they would think that's pretty fucking advanced. 0.74

02:25:41.000 They would know that we can send video through the sky. 0.96

02:25:44.000 They would know that we can capture time in the form of pictures and film. 0.99

02:25:49.000 I think they would be aware that we are on the cusp of some pretty wild shit. 0.99

02:25:54.000 We're sending Teslas into space that are currently zooming around Mars or whatever the fuck they are. 0.99

02:26:00.000 I just went through that. 0.81

02:26:00.000 I took my truck to the car wash the other day in Boise and There was a Tesla that was sitting over on the side and the lady was giving the manager hell because she'd taken her Tesla through the car wash and it knocked off the side view mirror and it was clearly a new car for her. 0.81

02:26:17.000 And she couldn't even take it to the car wash without it losing a piece or a part.

02:26:21.000 And I thought it wasn't a good ad for Tesla, frankly, but you know.

02:26:24.000 What kind of car wash?

02:26:26.000 One of them automatic ones?

02:26:27.000 Yeah, it was a, what do they call it?

02:26:28.000 A touchless car wash.

02:26:30.000 Those things can be brutal.

02:26:31.000 But I have a Tesla.

02:26:33.000 They're well made, man. 1.00

02:26:35.000 I think that car wash is a piece of shit car wash. 1.00

02:26:38.000 So you've turned it around. 1.00

02:26:40.000 I see what you're saying.

02:26:40.000 Jamie's got a Tesla, too.

02:26:41.000 Step up, Jamie.

02:26:42.000 Tell him.

02:26:42.000 Look at you guys.

02:26:44.000 There you go.

02:26:45.000 You'll be careful when you do that.

02:26:47.000 Yeah.

02:26:47.000 Bring those side view mirrors in.

02:26:49.000 I think that's actually in the...

02:26:50.000 They do come in.

02:26:51.000 You press a button.

02:26:51.000 Yeah, it's in the manual.

02:26:52.000 If you go in the manual, but it says, before you go through a car wash, bring those mirrors in.

02:26:56.000 No, I went through the car wash. 0.99

02:26:57.000 I didn't do shit. 0.99

02:26:58.000 I let them get slopped around. 0.97

02:27:00.000 I didn't do anything.

02:27:01.000 They're fine.

02:27:02.000 I almost went through the car wash one time with one of my dogs in the back of Oh, my God.

02:27:08.000 Because I'd completely forgotten.

02:27:10.000 I'd run a couple of chores, and there's Hendrix in the back of the truck.

02:27:14.000 Oh, no.

02:27:15.000 And the guy waves me down and says, your dog. 0.99

02:27:18.000 He's dirty. 0.99

02:27:19.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

02:27:20.000 Kill two birds with one stone.

02:27:21.000 Yeah, he'd be fine.

02:27:22.000 Water and soap.

02:27:23.000 The dog's going to be fine.

02:27:24.000 Big 120-pound retriever.

02:27:26.000 He knows how to handle it.

02:27:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:27:27.000 Jesus Christ.

02:27:28.000 Relax, car wash guy.

02:27:29.000 I know.

02:27:30.000 Oh, my God.

02:27:31.000 We got to...

02:27:32.000 You got pets.

02:27:34.000 You got Marshall, right?

02:27:34.000 Yeah, I got a retriever.

02:27:36.000 They're the best.

02:27:37.000 They are fantastic.

02:27:38.000 We've got now, we've got that one.

02:27:40.000 Yours is 120 pounds?

02:27:41.000 He's a big boy.

02:27:42.000 That's a huge retriever. 0.98

02:27:43.000 He's a big-ass dog.

02:27:44.000 What'd you feed him? 0.99

02:27:45.000 CIA steroids?

02:27:47.000 We do, yeah.

02:27:47.000 Yeah, because I still get those.

02:27:50.000 I haven't been in for a while, but, you know, that's...

02:27:52.000 You're on a mailing list.

02:27:53.000 That's why I think the world of the director, because...

02:27:55.000 They still send me that chat.

02:27:57.000 So then we got this big, what do they call them, golden doodles, right?

02:28:01.000 Oh, okay, yeah.

02:28:02.000 And she's supposed to be small. 0.96

02:28:04.000 She's getting to be taller and bigger than he is.

02:28:06.000 So she's like six or seven months old, and she's a monster already. 0.97

02:28:09.000 Really?

02:28:10.000 And now we got another, one of our cats died, or our last cat died.

02:28:13.000 And so we thought, okay, that's it.

02:28:15.000 We're going to simplify life.

02:28:16.000 Then we were at the store and they had like a rescue cat thing going on and so we ended up with a rescue cat.

02:28:23.000 And then we were out and a fox got in the barn, killed this mama cat and all the kittens and there was only one survivor.

02:28:30.000 This was just like a couple of weeks ago.

02:28:31.000 So now we got like this entourage again, right?

02:28:33.000 So we kept this kitten and I thought we can't keep this little tiny, you know, it's like a two week old kitten.

02:28:38.000 We've been bottle feeding this thing now for the past two and a half weeks.

02:28:41.000 And it's cute. 0.99

02:28:42.000 It's a very cute and it's a tough son of a bitch, right? 0.97

02:28:45.000 It's going to be a great cat around the house. 0.97

02:28:48.000 But it's just like now I'm waiting to get like a farm duck and chickens and a goat.

02:28:54.000 People have love-hate relationships with foxes. 0.99

02:28:57.000 Because they're beautiful, they're kind of cool, they like to hang around people, but they will kill your fucking cat, they will kill your chickens, they'll kill a lot of things. 1.00

02:29:05.000 But it's a fucking circle of life. 1.00

02:29:06.000 You know how many birds those domestic cats kill? 1.00

02:29:08.000 Holy shit, that's all they do. 1.00

02:29:10.000 Stunning. 1.00

02:29:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:29:11.000 So, you know, it's one of those things.

02:29:13.000 An animal killing another animal, unless it's like, you know, some abused, you know, fighting, you know, dog that has been...

02:29:21.000 Yeah.

02:29:21.000 And that's just the way it works.

02:29:23.000 It's just a circle of life.

02:29:24.000 I watched a really bizarre documentary on Vice the other day about cats in Australia.

02:29:29.000 And one of these guys, his whole house was filled with stuffed cats.

02:29:34.000 And he has stuffed cats. 1.00

02:29:36.000 Like, you take the head off and it's like a fucking mason jar. 1.00

02:29:39.000 And he has cats. 0.99

02:29:41.000 He takes the cats and he skins them, and he makes coats and jackets and hats out of them.

02:29:46.000 So this guy's wearing like a cat hat and a cat jacket, and he's got dead cats all over his house.

02:29:52.000 And he has a book with a meticulous detail of every cat he's ever killed.

02:29:58.000 Well, this is the thing.

02:29:59.000 Do you know the situation with cats in Australia?

02:30:01.000 Well, the feral cats.

02:30:02.000 I used to work on a sheep station out in Australia in the middle of nowhere.

02:30:05.000 And so, yeah, you'd be working the fence line or repairing the fences.

02:30:15.000 Yeah, this is the guy.

02:30:17.000 So he's got these stuffed cats all over his house.

02:30:19.000 Like, look at this. 1.00

02:30:21.000 His whole fucking house is filled with cats. 1.00

02:30:25.000 And he's a cat killer. 1.00

02:30:27.000 And I know, look, I have cats.

02:30:31.000 It's a toilet roll holder.

02:30:33.000 He's got a lot of different things he uses cats for.

02:30:35.000 I'm not anti-cat.

02:30:37.000 I just want everybody to know.

02:30:38.000 But these are feral cats that were introduced to Australia.

02:30:42.000 I forget what they're introduced to kill off.

02:30:44.000 But the problem is they bred at a spectacular rate and they've become a huge problem for the native species.

02:30:52.000 So they've decimated and sent into extinction a bunch of ground nesting birds and all sorts of different animals.

02:30:58.000 And so now there's a bounty on wild cats, feral cats in Australia.

02:31:04.000 And this gentleman...

02:31:06.000 He's making a good living.

02:31:07.000 He skins them, which is really weird. 0.96

02:31:10.000 He doesn't just kill them. 0.99

02:31:11.000 And in the video, you see him shoot them and skin them. 1.00

02:31:14.000 So he traps them.

02:31:16.000 I think there's other people in this video that run around hunting them.

02:31:20.000 Well, is there more than one way to skin a cat then?

02:31:22.000 Did he answer that question?

02:31:24.000 I went, yeah, see, look, everybody was wondering.

02:31:27.000 Maybe that's where it came from.

02:31:28.000 I think that's where it came from.

02:31:29.000 So these are all the lizards, centerpieces.

02:31:31.000 I think they were brought because of the rabbits.

02:31:32.000 I think they were trying to solve a rabbit problem.

02:31:34.000 I think you might be right.

02:31:36.000 Meanwhile, they killed all these lizards and bugs.

02:31:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:31:39.000 No, they're all over the place.

02:31:41.000 And people say, ah, kitten!

02:31:42.000 And they just, like, they launch themselves at you.

02:31:46.000 That's crazy. 0.99

02:31:47.000 They can be pretty fucking mean. 0.99

02:31:48.000 They're also kept as pets in Australia, which is really weird. 0.99

02:31:50.000 One of the major invasive species that causing detrimental effects to indigenous wildlife due to predation.

02:31:56.000 For biosecurity reasons, any cats that are imported to Australia must meet conditions set by the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries, and Forestry.

02:32:04.000 I wonder what those conditions are.

02:32:07.000 Cut their teeth out?

02:32:08.000 Yeah, I was going to say.

02:32:09.000 The teeth removed and the claws removed.

02:32:11.000 Yeah, Australia.

02:32:13.000 It's like the Everglades. 1.00

02:32:14.000 Everything down there wants to kill you. 1.00

02:32:16.000 Everything wants to bite you and kill you. 1.00

02:32:19.000 Good God. 0.99

02:32:20.000 They're wild people, man.

02:32:22.000 Everglades is a fascinating place.

02:32:24.000 I don't know why now I'm talking about the Everglades. 0.98

02:32:26.000 People are going, what the fuck is he talking about the Everglades? 0.96

02:32:27.000 You know they found Nile crocodiles there now. 0.99

02:32:30.000 Yeah.

02:32:31.000 They found a panther inside an alligator down there.

02:32:34.000 Yeah.

02:32:35.000 This is crazy.

02:32:36.000 What do you think about it?

02:32:37.000 I know. 1.00

02:32:37.000 There's all sorts of shit. 1.00

02:32:38.000 I mean, it's amazing what you can find when you start reading about it. 0.99

02:32:40.000 But that's a place where invasive species are a real problem.

02:32:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:32:43.000 The pythons.

02:32:44.000 Yeah.

02:32:45.000 Pythons and a whole series of other things that they've got cooking down there.

02:32:49.000 They caught a 20-footer the other day.

02:32:51.000 Good God.

02:32:52.000 Yeah.

02:32:52.000 See if you can find that.

02:32:54.000 The 20-foot python, it's so thick.

02:32:56.000 Yeah.

02:32:57.000 It's like a quarterback's leg.

02:33:00.000 They have these hunts down there, you know, in little competitions.

02:33:03.000 I don't know why I said quarterback.

02:33:04.000 Yeah, quarterback is...

02:33:05.000 They're not the biggest guys.

02:33:07.000 You know what I saw the other day?

02:33:08.000 I saw Tom Brady in a Buccaneers uniform, and it was kind of strange.

02:33:11.000 It's weird, right?

02:33:12.000 Yeah, it is weird.

02:33:13.000 It is weird.

02:33:14.000 Oh, it was 18 foot. 1.00

02:33:15.000 Look at the size of this fucker. 1.00

02:33:18.000 Imagine... 1.00

02:33:19.000 Look how fat that thing is. 1.00

02:33:21.000 Imagine, like, seeing that.

02:33:24.000 Look at the size of it.

02:33:27.000 Now, meanwhile, here's the thing. 0.98

02:33:29.000 Here's what's really ridiculous about California. 1.00

02:33:30.000 Let's get back to California being stupid. 1.00

02:33:32.000 They're an invasive species, pythons. 1.00

02:33:35.000 And they're hunted, and they have to be. 0.87

02:33:37.000 They're trying to track them down and kill them. 1.00

02:33:40.000 In fucking California, you can't even buy python-skin things. 1.00

02:33:45.000 These are things that people are trying to kill. 1.00

02:33:48.000 They're trying to kill them. 1.00

02:33:49.000 So what happens if you kill them? 0.99

02:33:51.000 You can't even use the resource of their skin to make handbags or shoes or belts or whatever. 0.91

02:33:57.000 They won't allow you to import Python to California now.

02:34:01.000 You probably have to take it, and if you kill one, you probably have to take it to the fish and game department, right?

02:34:04.000 Otherwise, if you dispose of it improperly, then you could be... 0.99

02:34:07.000 In Florida, you can do whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

02:34:10.000 Yeah, you're flinging out in the ocean. 0.99

02:34:10.000 Because they're in Florida, they're killing most of these things. 0.99

02:34:12.000 But also, alligators, similar situation.

02:34:16.000 Alligators, they're not an endangered species.

02:34:18.000 They're in abundance.

02:34:19.000 You can't buy alligator skin things in California anymore.

02:34:24.000 Crocodile skin, can't buy them anymore. 0.98

02:34:26.000 Like, what the fuck is wrong with people? 0.99

02:34:29.000 Well, but it's also—it's the continuing—look, it's interesting if you think about what the fuck is wrong with people, and then you see the rate of movement of citizens out of California and to other locations. 0.99

02:34:43.000 Yeah, it's stunning. 0.88

02:34:44.000 It's stunning.

02:34:44.000 And then you think about, okay, like Georgia's a good example in this election, right?

02:34:48.000 Georgia's turning, right?

02:34:49.000 So Georgia may well end up having become a blue state.

02:34:54.000 Why?

02:34:55.000 Well, people coming from out of state.

02:34:57.000 We get that happening in Idaho.

02:34:58.000 People coming in from out of state.

02:35:00.000 And you'd like to think, again, going back to the very first thing we talked about, self-awareness, you'd like to think to say, I'm leaving this place.

02:35:07.000 It's got some problems.

02:35:09.000 I'm going to go somewhere else.

02:35:10.000 You know what, though?

02:35:11.000 I'm not connecting the dots.

02:35:13.000 I'm going to just say that it has nothing to do with the way that I voted in the past.

02:35:17.000 I'm sure things will be fine here if I continue that.

02:35:19.000 Yeah, well, that was the conversation that I had with the governor last night.

02:35:22.000 Oh.

02:35:24.000 That was along those lines, yeah.

02:35:25.000 Texas is close to turning blue.

02:35:28.000 And he's like, don't make this state what you fled.

02:35:32.000 And he makes some very good points, and a lot of other people do, too.

02:35:36.000 Economic freedom, the freedom to be an entrepreneur, the freedom to start businesses and not be over-regulated, all of those are real problems in California.

02:35:46.000 They're giant problems.

02:35:47.000 They impede business.

02:35:48.000 California businesses succeed in spite of all the regulation, not because of all the regulation.

02:35:54.000 And you can't...

02:35:55.000 If you squash that entrepreneurial spirit, right?

02:35:59.000 If you take away incentives, if you take away just the idea that, you know what, maybe...

02:36:05.000 You know, I got a great job, but I also got an idea.

02:36:08.000 Maybe I want to pursue that idea and see whether I can turn it into a business.

02:36:13.000 If you get rid of that either by regulations or just by disincentivizing people from starting a business or from creating something, it could be just a flash of an idea that they've got.

02:36:28.000 You know, I'm going to sound like I've got rose-colored glasses on, but that was part of the thing that makes this country so special, right?

02:36:35.000 And, you know, I do look at California, and I look at the movement of people out of there, and Idaho, again, being one of those places where a lot of folks end up, and you could see that happening.

02:36:48.000 You could see suddenly, you know, a business-friendly state starting to turn, and that's I don't know.

02:36:54.000 So yeah, if you don't like where you are and you're moving, maybe look in the mirror and think about, maybe I want something different.

02:37:02.000 Maybe I should vote differently.

02:37:04.000 Well, one of the things that Governor Abbott was telling me is that, fortunately, there are a lot of people that are coming from California that are self-aware and are voting differently than they voted in the past.

02:37:16.000 Because they're realizing what they fled.

02:37:18.000 And they're actually voting for traditional Texas politics, like the way it's always been here.

02:37:27.000 It was relatively close here.

02:37:28.000 Yeah, pretty close.

02:37:29.000 I mean, I think they were expecting, they spent a ton of money down here, right, on the races.

02:37:32.000 And I think they were expecting that it was going to turn.

02:37:34.000 Turn Texas blue.

02:37:36.000 Oh my god, yeah.

02:37:37.000 Yeah.

02:37:37.000 You know what, just, again, this idea that everywhere, oh.

02:37:40.000 Well, you're in the blue dot.

02:37:42.000 This is the blue dot.

02:37:43.000 Well, it's like Boise.

02:37:44.000 Boise is a blue dot in a red state.

02:37:46.000 A lot of hippies, huh?

02:37:47.000 Yeah.

02:37:48.000 I don't know about the hippies.

02:37:49.000 Do you guys have bears, though?

02:37:49.000 Do we call them hippies anymore?

02:37:50.000 I don't know.

02:37:51.000 You guys have grizzlies.

02:37:52.000 You can take care of those hippies. 0.99

02:37:54.000 I don't know.

02:37:54.000 You just got to trick them into going to the woods.

02:37:57.000 You don't have to be the fastest one.

02:37:58.000 You just have to be faster than the hippie. 0.69

02:38:00.000 You just have to figure out a way to like, come on, you guys are the CIA. You know how to infiltrate.

02:38:05.000 Just infiltrate those organizations to get them to go camping.

02:38:08.000 Hey guys, we're going to have a love fest in the middle of this area.

02:38:13.000 They just put pork chops around their neck and see what happens.

02:38:16.000 Yeah, we're just gonna hang our meat up.

02:38:18.000 See, that doesn't sound right.

02:38:21.000 Hey, speaking of entrepreneurs, this is where I bring in a second promo.

02:38:26.000 It'll only take me a second.

02:38:27.000 A buddy of mine did a great thing during the pandemic.

02:38:32.000 While he's locked down, I think everybody in the lockdown thought, I'm going to get myself in shape, or I'm going to read the Constitution finally, or I'm going to learn a new language or whatever.

02:38:41.000 Right.

02:38:42.000 I'm going to get jacked. 0.98

02:38:43.000 Yeah, I'm going to get jacked. 0.53

02:38:43.000 Most people didn't do it, though, to be fair, right? 0.53

02:38:47.000 And we didn't do it because we were day drinking, because we had to homeschool the three knuckleheads. 0.97

02:38:51.000 But this great guy, a colleague of mine...

02:38:55.000 I had an idea.

02:38:56.000 I developed a small business and now has got it online.

02:39:01.000 He's trying to make it work.

02:39:03.000 It's called Bird Dog Investigations.

02:39:07.000 It's not for everybody.

02:39:08.000 It's for a specific purpose in life, right, in terms of a particular sector out there.

02:39:13.000 But to me, it was just that...

02:39:16.000 Where you see, okay, someone's actually taken that time, and they've run with it, right?

02:39:20.000 What is he trying to do?

02:39:21.000 Well, Bird Dog Investigations, it's a platform that works in a couple of different ways, but one way is the world of private investigators out there, right?

02:39:30.000 Because that's sort of the guy's business in a way.

02:39:33.000 But it helps them in their operations.

02:39:37.000 If you're a private investigator out in the field, you're out there and you're taking notes, the typical picture of a guy drinking coffee and trying to snap a couple of pictures of whatever it is, insurance fraud or whatever it may be, and he's compiling all this information. 0.98

02:39:50.000 Maybe he's writing some of it on a cocktail napkin in his car, and then he's like, he's got all this shit. 0.96

02:39:55.000 He's got to put it together. 0.98

02:39:56.000 So the thing that's missing is the ability to punch it into an app, right?

02:40:02.000 Compile all that.

02:40:03.000 It takes all the photos.

02:40:04.000 It formats it all into a preset format that the receiver, whether it's a law firm or a company, if the guy's working for a company, it just sets it all in there.

02:40:13.000 Look at that!

02:40:14.000 My God!

02:40:16.000 But it's also useful for large companies.

02:40:19.000 Like you think about a company out there, a transportation business like FedEx or UPS or one of those, and their drivers are constantly...

02:40:27.000 What's happening?

02:40:28.000 There's fraud out there where they get sideswiped purposely, right?

02:40:31.000 Or they set up fake accidents, and then people are suing a company like UPS or FedEx or DHL or whomever.

02:40:37.000 And it costs a lot of money.

02:40:39.000 It costs them a lot of money to get out of these accidents.

02:40:41.000 That's an epidemic?

02:40:42.000 It's a real problem, because it involves the perpetrators, right?

02:40:46.000 They tend to be the same.

02:40:47.000 It involves law firms.

02:40:48.000 It involves pain specialists and doctors.

02:40:52.000 They're in on this thing, right?

02:40:54.000 So certain jurisdictions around the country have more of a problem than others.

02:40:58.000 Big urban centers, as you can imagine.

02:40:59.000 So anyway, the idea was this guy came up and said, you know what, if the drivers of these vehicles have something where they can, you know, take photos of the situation, punch in all the details, it goes straight into a report that looks good, it goes to the company, great.

02:41:12.000 Now you're not, it's there instantaneously, they can assess the situation, they can react quicker, they can identify the frauds.

02:41:18.000 So anyway, my whole point was, it's just good to see, you know, Someone doing something good with their time.

02:41:25.000 Yeah, with their time.

02:41:26.000 And again, that entrepreneurial spirit that I just banged on about.

02:41:30.000 So there.

02:41:32.000 That's me.

02:41:33.000 I worked for a private investigator when I was coming up as a comedian.

02:41:37.000 That was one of my jobs.

02:41:39.000 Really?

02:41:39.000 Yeah, I was an assistant to a private investigator.

02:41:41.000 I didn't know that.

02:41:42.000 What were you doing?

02:41:43.000 Surveillance?

02:41:43.000 Yeah.

02:41:44.000 Mostly I was driving him around.

02:41:45.000 He lost his license for a DUI. And he put out, Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan.

02:41:50.000 That's what he used to call himself.

02:41:51.000 He's the best.

02:41:52.000 I miss him.

02:41:53.000 He died a few years back.

02:41:55.000 But I was friends with him to the end.

02:41:59.000 But yeah, when I was 21 and I was an open-miker, when I was first starting out doing comedy, I needed some other gigs.

02:42:06.000 And I said, oh, private investigator's assistant.

02:42:09.000 This should be great.

02:42:10.000 Where did you see it?

02:42:11.000 Was it in the papers?

02:42:12.000 Yeah, it was in the Help Wanted section.

02:42:14.000 You're going to have to explain to people what that is.

02:42:16.000 And just randomly, so I answered this ad, and it turned out that he lost his license from a DUI. Fucking hilarious guy. 0.95

02:42:26.000 And then never drank again. 0.99

02:42:28.000 Never went to AA or anything.

02:42:29.000 Just got himself off the wagon.

02:42:30.000 He's like, all right, I got to stop doing this. 1.00

02:42:32.000 He crashed his car trying to run away from the cops and was like, fuck this. 1.00

02:42:37.000 But really, really funny guy. 1.00

02:42:39.000 Like, hilarious.

02:42:40.000 And his cousin, this is random, right?

02:42:43.000 I'm just answering this ad.

02:42:44.000 His cousin was one of the owners of one of the comedy clubs in town.

02:42:48.000 So his cousin was this guy, Bill Downs, who was one of the owners, along with Paul Barkley, of the Comedy Connection, which was one of the main comedy clubs in Boston.

02:42:57.000 And so, like, I get to hang out with this guy, and I'm telling you, out of all the people that I've ever met in my life, he's in the top three funniest people of all time.

02:43:08.000 And he's not a comedian. 0.76

02:43:08.000 He was fucking hilarious. 0.76

02:43:11.000 Just naturally funny guy. 0.98

02:43:13.000 And most of what we did was insurance fraud.

02:43:15.000 Okay, yeah.

02:43:16.000 Most of what we did was catch people.

02:43:18.000 This is before the internet, right?

02:43:19.000 We're talking 1988. I worked for him.

02:43:22.000 So this is people that were mostly like, we caught a lady who was using her maiden name.

02:43:28.000 She had some little fake injury and she was getting money on the side. 0.99

02:43:33.000 There was a lot of that.

02:43:34.000 There was a lot of people that were working cash jobs while they were also getting paid. 0.97

02:43:37.000 So we just take pictures of them climbing roofs with fucking bundled shingles on their shoulder. 0.98

02:43:42.000 I thought this guy was laid up in bed. 0.99

02:43:44.000 There was a lot of that.

02:43:46.000 No, and it still is.

02:43:47.000 And that's kind of where the world of – private investigators – my company is not – we do larger multi-jurisdictional investigations and things.

02:43:57.000 But the world of the PI hasn't really changed that much.

02:44:00.000 I mean technology has made it easier and better to some degree.

02:44:04.000 But it's mostly fraud.

02:44:05.000 But it's mostly – there's a lot of the fraud.

02:44:07.000 There's still a lot of sort of the cheating spouses and – He caught one guy that wanted to keep taking pictures. 1.00

02:44:15.000 Even after he's got all these pictures of this bodybuilder banging his wife and he's like, hey man, you're a fucking weirdo. 0.99

02:44:23.000 You've got to do something about this now. 0.99

02:44:25.000 I gave you your information. 0.99

02:44:27.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:44:29.000 That's fantastic. 0.99

02:44:30.000 He's like, keep following her.

02:44:32.000 I'm gonna need some more photographic evidence.

02:44:34.000 Yeah, he wanted that.

02:44:35.000 He wanted him to keep taking pictures.

02:44:36.000 Like, bro, you got all the pictures you need.

02:44:38.000 Oh, my God.

02:44:39.000 Apparently not.

02:44:39.000 Apparently he didn't.

02:44:40.000 Yeah, it was like this feeble man with this huge athletic gentleman who was bringing home the beef.

02:44:49.000 Oh, man.

02:44:50.000 Slinging the meat.

02:44:51.000 Yeah, but that's the world of the PI. It's a tough world.

02:44:56.000 He was a funny guy.

02:44:58.000 How long did you do that for?

02:44:59.000 It wasn't that long.

02:45:01.000 However long it took him to get his license back, I think maybe seven, eight months, something like that.

02:45:10.000 I forget, but we stayed friends forever.

02:45:12.000 Did you ever do any surveillance for him or anything like that?

02:45:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:45:14.000 Yeah.

02:45:15.000 I also, you know, I was a cute little fella.

02:45:17.000 I was very boy pretty, so he would use me to talk to the ladies and Oh, good.

02:45:22.000 Okay, I wasn't sure where you were going with that.

02:45:23.000 I was a 21-year-old, handsome little boy.

02:45:28.000 Got a full head of hair.

02:45:30.000 Yeah, I was cute.

02:45:32.000 So I'd be the one that would talk to ladies and ask them questions. 1.00

02:45:36.000 He had these little scams he would do.

02:45:38.000 One of them would be, he would know someone's license plate and then he would make a couple license plates that were similar to that license plate.

02:45:46.000 If your license plate was like XYZ, he would make XYW, XYO, and he would say, my girlfriend was in a car accident and there was a witness to the accident and the cop spilt his coffee On the paper,

02:46:04.000 and they didn't get the license number, and I'm hoping that you were one of the witnesses.

02:46:09.000 And, oh, no, I'm sorry.

02:46:10.000 What happened?

02:46:12.000 It was like, I have someone at the DMV, and they gave me these addresses for all these licenses.

02:46:16.000 They know most of the numbers except for the last one, but I was hoping it was you.

02:46:21.000 No, it wasn't.

02:46:21.000 What was the injury?

02:46:22.000 Was she okay?

02:46:23.000 And he would say, well, you know, she had the L5 herniated disc.

02:46:28.000 I had that, too.

02:46:30.000 Yeah.

02:46:30.000 Because he knew that she had that.

02:46:32.000 Of course, yeah.

02:46:32.000 And so then he would schmooze with them.

02:46:34.000 Like, this one lady, she was so nice. 0.84

02:46:36.000 She invited us over to the house.

02:46:38.000 She served us coffee.

02:46:40.000 And I'm like, oh my god.

02:46:41.000 And he's like, so what happened?

02:46:43.000 Well, I fell down when I was on the job.

02:46:45.000 She was an airline stewardess.

02:46:47.000 I fell down and he goes, so you alright now?

02:46:51.000 She goes, oh yeah, I'm fine.

02:46:52.000 He goes, but you're getting paid for the insurance, right?

02:46:54.000 She goes, oh yes.

02:46:55.000 Not only am I getting paid, but I'm also working under my maiden name for another airline.

02:47:00.000 And he was like, oh, that's great.

02:47:02.000 Good, good, good.

02:47:03.000 Good for you.

02:47:04.000 And then after we left, I was like, she's so nice, man.

02:47:07.000 She let us in. 1.00

02:47:07.000 She goes, fuck her. 1.00

02:47:09.000 She's a crook. 1.00

02:47:10.000 She goes, fuck her. 1.00

02:47:12.000 I was like, how can you do that? 1.00

02:47:14.000 That lady was so nice. 1.00

02:47:15.000 She had us over.

02:47:15.000 She gave us coffee.

02:47:17.000 He didn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:47:18.000 He was laughing. 0.99

02:47:19.000 He goes, that's the job, kid.

02:47:20.000 That guy should have worked for the agency. 1.00

02:47:22.000 Fuck her! 1.00

02:47:25.000 It's elicitation, right? 1.00

02:47:27.000 That's a big part of it.

02:47:28.000 Can you elicit information?

02:47:29.000 Well, he was really good at it.

02:47:31.000 He was funny, and he was a smooth talker, and he seemed like a good guy, like a good blue-collar guy.

02:47:40.000 But he liked it.

02:47:41.000 He enjoyed the work.

02:47:42.000 He loved it.

02:47:43.000 He loved catching people. 0.99

02:47:44.000 He'd take pictures of these guys climbing ladders with the fucking shingles in their back. 1.00

02:47:48.000 Look at this fucking prick. 1.00

02:47:50.000 You're done. 1.00

02:47:51.000 You are fucking done! 1.00

02:47:54.000 And he'd be laughing, and then we'd go eat lunch. 1.00

02:47:57.000 Well, shit, I had no idea. 0.99

02:47:58.000 Look, if you ever get down on your luck, you can work for my business. 0.99

02:48:03.000 I don't think I'd be very secretive anymore.

02:48:05.000 That's a good point.

02:48:06.000 I get busted with a mask on.

02:48:07.000 Yeah, no, you're right.

02:48:08.000 That is a problem.

02:48:10.000 You can't really blend in anymore. 0.99

02:48:12.000 But with that CIA shit that they used to turn Melania Trump's double to look like Melania, I might be in. 0.99

02:48:18.000 Give me a full head of hair, cover up my tattoos. 1.00

02:48:22.000 Make me look fat.

02:48:23.000 Give me a nice belly. 1.00

02:48:24.000 A fat suit.

02:48:25.000 Did you ever see the fat suit they gave Thor from the Avengers?

02:48:29.000 No.

02:48:30.000 Pretty amazing.

02:48:32.000 One of the Avengers movies, they made Thor fat.

02:48:35.000 Thor had been just drinking and not working out anymore, and he had a big belly, so they put him in a crazy fat suit.

02:48:42.000 They showed there's a video of the CGI. It's really amazing.

02:48:46.000 There it is. 0.99

02:48:47.000 See, this is Chris Helmsworth, who's a goddamn specimen of a man. 0.99

02:48:53.000 They filled him up with this fat suit, so they tucked him into this thing and gave him a big, fat, jolly belly. 0.99

02:49:01.000 See, that's what he really looks like.

02:49:03.000 Yeah, okay, yeah.

02:49:04.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:49:05.000 He's probably happier as a fat guy. 0.58

02:49:08.000 He doesn't have to watch what he eats. 0.99

02:49:09.000 What he's happy, he was happy as a fake fat guy. 0.95

02:49:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.84

02:49:12.000 So he can just slap on that rubber belly and... 0.84

02:49:17.000 What if he wore it home?

02:49:18.000 Is he married?

02:49:19.000 Honey! 0.98

02:49:19.000 I don't know if you can wear it home. 0.98

02:49:22.000 I think you have to take that thing off after you're filming.

02:49:24.000 It's probably disgusting. 0.99

02:49:25.000 You're sweating like a pig in that thing. 0.99

02:49:28.000 Plus, if you're married to Chris Emsworth, you're probably not thinking, jeez, I wonder what he'd like to do him if he's fat. 0.99

02:49:32.000 Maybe. 1.00

02:49:32.000 Maybe you're tired of this Adonis slinging dick every day. 1.00

02:49:36.000 Like, I want to get fucked by a fat guy. 1.00

02:49:38.000 I'm a regular person. 1.00

02:49:39.000 I'm tired of this perfect specimen on top of me every day with this perfect sweat.

02:49:45.000 Yeah, it doesn't even sweat.

02:49:47.000 Oh, God.

02:49:48.000 So I guess I fully answered your alien question, right?

02:49:52.000 Not really.

02:49:53.000 Oh, okay.

02:49:53.000 No, you skirted around it like you skirt around everything else.

02:49:56.000 Everything else, I know.

02:49:57.000 Thank you.

02:49:58.000 That's what I'm always accused of.

02:50:00.000 If you had a bet, if you had money on the table...

02:50:02.000 And remember, we do.

02:50:04.000 We do.

02:50:05.000 We have a little bit of money on the president race.

02:50:07.000 Would you think that aliens have been here or no?

02:50:16.000 You know what?

02:50:17.000 I would say, in the realm of what's possible in this entire world and universe that we don't know anything about, I'd say yes.

02:50:26.000 Yeah, I'd say yeah, because there's just so much we don't know.

02:50:30.000 And so I think it would be, you know, again, that's sort of the, that's kind of like the operational investigative pragmatic side, which says you can't rule out anything that you don't know 100%.

02:50:42.000 But when you hear a story like David Fravor, who's a super credible guy, and you've spoken to him.

02:50:48.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

02:50:49.000 What was your take on it after you walked away?

02:50:52.000 I think there's something there that we couldn't explain, and there's a difference there, right?

02:50:59.000 So there's a difference that says there's something there that we can't explain, at least with the tools that we've got currently and the technology that we've got currently.

02:51:09.000 That's not the same thing as saying the government knows what it is and is hiding it.

02:51:13.000 Right.

02:51:13.000 So, you know, I'm not taking that jump yet.

02:51:18.000 Right.

02:51:25.000 You know, they can't keep a secret, right?

02:51:29.000 I mean, over a period of time.

02:51:30.000 It's just very, very tough.

02:51:32.000 I mean, and so do I think that everybody involved could keep their yap shut after all these years? 0.93

02:51:40.000 No.

02:51:41.000 So that's the one thing that rules out the idea, in my mind, to some degree.

02:51:45.000 Again, not ruling it out entirely that it didn't happen.

02:51:50.000 I think that there's something there that we can't explain, and that definitely bears further investigation.

02:51:56.000 Do I think we're investigating it?

02:51:58.000 Yeah, sure.

02:51:59.000 Do I think there's some element out there within the military that is investigating the Tic Tac, as an example, what Fravor saw?

02:52:06.000 Absolutely.

02:52:08.000 I mean, we'd be silly not to, right?

02:52:10.000 Because, you know, that's a national security issue at that point.

02:52:12.000 Well, I think what would be really terrifying to the government is if it wasn't aliens. 1.00

02:52:17.000 Like, if there was a craft that could go from 60,000 feet above sea level to one feet above, and it was a human-created thing, that means that some, unless it's us, some other civilization somewhere on this planet has some kind of technology that's beyond the realm of our current imagination or understanding of physics.

02:52:37.000 Absolutely, which is why, again, that was really the reason for creating ATIP anyway within the Pentagon was because, again, it's a national security issue, right?

02:52:45.000 Do the Chinese, have they developed some propulsion system? 1.00

02:52:47.000 We don't know about it.

02:52:48.000 Have the Russians done that? 0.96

02:52:49.000 I mean, there's only so many options there in terms of the countries that have the resources and the ability.

02:52:56.000 Yeah, so we should be investigating these things.

02:52:59.000 We should be looking at this.

02:53:01.000 Do I think everything needs to be out on the table?

02:53:03.000 Again, going back to what you were talking about before, is there a need for secrets?

02:53:06.000 Well, sure, yeah, there are some needs for secrecy here.

02:53:10.000 Do you think there's a need for secrecy when it comes to aliens?

02:53:16.000 I would say that there's...

02:53:18.000 Yeah, potentially, because of...

02:53:24.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

02:53:25.000 You know what?

02:53:25.000 That is a tough one.

02:53:26.000 I could see where you could argue, if we have anything that we know about alien life or technology or around any of this issue, that we should just come out, put it on the table.

02:53:37.000 My concern would be, from a national security perspective, if I... Obviously, I don't know much about national security, but if I did, I would say, I don't know if people could handle it. 0.98

02:53:47.000 I don't know if they would be the best thing for these fucking dummies out here that I don't even know if they should be voting. 0.97

02:53:53.000 Oh, look, they're doing pretty well handling the election week. 0.99

02:53:57.000 Yeah, they're doing great. 0.87

02:53:58.000 There's so many knuckleheads. 0.79

02:54:00.000 So many knuckleheads out there. 0.98

02:54:02.000 If those knuckleheads found out that they were aliens... 0.98

02:54:05.000 How bad would they freak out? 0.99

02:54:08.000 And also, what if there are, and what if they very rarely come here, but now that we have proven that they are here, how badly would other people, nefarious interests in the United States and elsewhere, manipulate that information and fuck with people over it?

02:54:27.000 That's another real concern. 0.98

02:54:29.000 If it is proven that there is alien life, and that we do occasionally get visited by aliens, Do you know how many fucking cult members would be created? 0.98

02:54:39.000 How many people would manipulate that information? 0.98

02:54:42.000 How many people would pretend to have secret insight?

02:54:45.000 There would be a run on tinfoil, no doubt.

02:54:49.000 I guess...

02:54:53.000 Yeah, I mean, you could argue the other way and say, well, if it had happened, or if, and again, I'm not saying that's the case, but if the government was aware of visits from other worlds, you know,

02:55:09.000 Maybe it helps people put things in perspective.

02:55:12.000 Maybe.

02:55:12.000 Maybe they don't freak out as much.

02:55:14.000 Maybe they just think, okay, fine.

02:55:16.000 We're all in this together.

02:55:16.000 Yeah, we're all in this together.

02:55:18.000 Right.

02:55:18.000 And so maybe it unites people.

02:55:20.000 Sort of like Independence Day.

02:55:22.000 Well, that's that famous Reagan speech, right?

02:55:24.000 Yeah.

02:55:24.000 You know that famous Reagan, United Nations speech?

02:55:27.000 Which one?

02:55:27.000 You never heard that speech?

02:55:29.000 I don't know.

02:55:30.000 He's speaking in front of the United Nations in the early 80s, and he said, imagine if we were visited, if we received a threat from another planet, how quickly we would put aside our differences.

02:55:43.000 Well, that's a good point, then.

02:55:45.000 Yeah.

02:55:45.000 He was a smart man.

02:55:47.000 And everybody immediately was like, oh my god, there's aliens.

02:55:52.000 Reagan's telling us.

02:55:54.000 He's not coming right out and telling us, but he's implying that he knows something. 0.98

02:55:59.000 If there was an internet back then, boy, would they went fucking bonkers for that one. 0.85

02:56:02.000 Well, wait, what do you think? 0.84

02:56:04.000 I think for sure there is life out there in the universe, just by sheer numbers.

02:56:10.000 It doesn't make sense that we're the only ones.

02:56:13.000 The universe is too old.

02:56:15.000 It's too big.

02:56:16.000 There's too many Goldilocks planets.

02:56:18.000 It's too likely.

02:56:21.000 If it exists here...

02:56:22.000 And they've also found evidence of life, I believe, some of the trace elements of life on Mars now, right?

02:56:31.000 Yeah.

02:56:32.000 Haven't they found?

02:56:32.000 Yeah.

02:56:33.000 More water than they expected, at least elements.

02:56:37.000 It just seems much more likely than not.

02:56:40.000 There's hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone.

02:56:45.000 There are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the known universe.

02:56:48.000 Not only that, some physicists believe that inside every galaxy there's a supermassive black hole and that inside that black hole may be another universe with also hundreds of billions of galaxies,

02:57:03.000 each with hundreds of billions of stars.

02:57:07.000 And another black hole.

02:57:08.000 And each with black holes inside of that.

02:57:10.000 I mean, the universe might be this fractal thing.

02:57:14.000 And even if it's not infinite, the sheer size of it is beyond our ability to comprehend.

02:57:22.000 When you hear the numbers, oh, it's 14 billion years old.

02:57:26.000 What does that even mean?

02:57:28.000 Does that even register?

02:57:29.000 That's so big it doesn't register.

02:57:32.000 And that's just as far as we can see back to the Big Bang.

02:57:38.000 And it's entirely possible that they think...

02:57:41.000 It's possible that the Big Bang is part of a series of events and that there's a Big Bang and then an expansion and then ultimately a contraction and a compression leading to another Big Bang.

02:57:57.000 And it's this cycle that goes on and on and on and on and it's always existed.

02:58:03.000 I think the key there is, A, we don't know what we don't know, and just the sheer size and scope, and the idea that you'd have to be pretty fucking cocksure to think that we're the only intelligent life in this entire setup, spinning around out here on our own.

02:58:21.000 But I think, not to take it back full circle, but Yeah, it's that idea that if, you know, don't discount ideas.

02:58:29.000 Don't, you know, don't rule things out unless you've got the evidence to do so, right?

02:58:34.000 And, you know, anyway.

02:58:38.000 It would be majorly disruptive.

02:58:40.000 I also think that if there was some alien force, some species that's so far beyond our current understanding of propulsion and technology, they can travel here instantaneously from anywhere in the universe. 0.97

02:58:57.000 Why would they give a fuck who the government is? 0.99

02:59:00.000 Why would they give a fuck who our president is? 0.99

02:59:02.000 Why would they give a shit who our military is? 1.00

02:59:04.000 They wouldn't care. 0.99

02:59:05.000 No.

02:59:05.000 We don't visit an ant colony and go, take me to the queen.

02:59:08.000 I will not speak to you peasants. 1.00

02:59:10.000 They don't give a shit. 0.99

02:59:11.000 I think they'd be so far advanced that they would just be studying us with no regard to letting us know about their presence and They'd be cataloging us with all the other life forms that they've found and saying, okay, this is how these guys behave in a social environment. 1.00

02:59:27.000 They're pretty fucked up. 0.53

02:59:28.000 And there's also the possibility that there's many different steps along this pathway, right, where there's insanely advanced and then there's marginally advanced, like something that's only a few thousand years more advanced than us, that visits us, 0.99

02:59:44.000 that's much more recognizable.

02:59:46.000 And then things that are so far beyond our comprehension and so different from such a different environment and different ecosystem that we can't even understand what they are.

02:59:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's...

02:59:59.000 Again, it's arrogance to think otherwise, that there's other things out there, there's other life forms.

03:00:07.000 To me, it just strikes me as odd that someone would be so definite and say, no, that's it.

03:00:11.000 Maybe we find a microbe out there somewhere, but that's pretty much it.

03:00:15.000 I think it's also comforting to people to think that we are alone in some weird way. 0.99

03:00:19.000 It's comforting to people to think that it's bullshit. 0.99

03:00:22.000 Oh, stop with your alien stuff. 0.99

03:00:24.000 Just get up in the morning, have a cup of coffee, and go to work.

03:00:28.000 Yeah, and don't worry about this election thing.

03:00:31.000 Let's just all get along.

03:00:32.000 Oh, the republic will survive.

03:00:35.000 It will survive.

03:00:36.000 It will survive. 0.98

03:00:36.000 If I had one parting message for people, it would be that, look, like we said, chill the fuck out. 0.98

03:00:42.000 But if there's irregularities that are legitimate or should be investigated, this process is going to work it out, right?

03:00:50.000 Between, what is it, December 8th and December 14th, Is when everything has to be kind of finalized and then it makes its way to Congress.

03:00:58.000 Congress counts out on like the 6th of January.

03:01:01.000 Do we have to wait that long until December?

03:01:03.000 Do you think that's what's going to happen?

03:01:06.000 It's likely.

03:01:08.000 I mean, by the time we're talking right now, I don't know.

03:01:11.000 Maybe Nevada's been decided, in which case Joe Biden's got 270. Well, Jamie's going to pull that up right now.

03:01:16.000 We're going to find out.

03:01:17.000 But even if he has 270, it doesn't mean that they stop the legal procedures in certain locations.

03:01:26.000 And so I think that, yes, it's likely to go on, much like it did in 2000, it's likely to go on until December 12th or 13th, but there is an ending to it.

03:01:35.000 So all these people who think, oh my God, he's never going to leave and he's going to lock himself in, that's not the way this works.

03:01:41.000 He doesn't get to make that decision.

03:01:42.000 It's a legal process.

03:01:44.000 It's a process that...

03:01:46.000 On the 20th of January, his term ends, and we get a new president.

03:01:51.000 Hopefully.

03:01:52.000 Either he continues, or we get a Vice President or President-elect Biden.

03:01:55.000 Hopefully, or Civil War, because he hires his own security firm, and they lock everything down, and they won't let that criminal Biden in, and then the QAnon people become his consultants.

03:02:07.000 Oh my God.

03:02:08.000 Yes, there is that. 0.99

03:02:10.000 Never rule anything out, but that shit's not happening. 0.98

03:02:13.000 And we are going to be just fine. 0.99

03:02:15.000 Again, pay attention.

03:02:16.000 If you're paying attention to anything, pay attention to what's happening in Georgia with those Senate races.

03:02:22.000 That's where the balance of power really sits.

03:02:25.000 And that's left and right.

03:02:27.000 It's a very tiny little fraction...

03:02:30.000 One side or the other, right?

03:02:31.000 If neither of those races hits 50%, plus one vote, then they both go to runoffs in January.

03:02:38.000 And that's where they're going to open up the spigot, and hundreds of millions of dollars are going to flow into Georgia for those races, from both sides, I'm sure, because they know what this means, right?

03:02:48.000 Right.

03:02:49.000 If both of those races go to the Dems, then you've got a 50-50, and guess who makes a deciding vote every time there's a tie in the Senate?

03:02:56.000 It's Kamala Harris.

03:02:57.000 So the Dems know the importance of this.

03:03:00.000 Pelosi is all ready.

03:03:01.000 She's a very smart political operative. 1.00

03:03:02.000 She's focused on this.

03:03:03.000 I guarantee it, right?

03:03:05.000 She's trying to, in a way, kind of trying to save her job as speaker because they didn't do what they expected they were going to do.

03:03:12.000 But they know how important that Georgia race is on both of those accounts.

03:03:17.000 Anyway, that's where people should be focused.

03:03:19.000 In four years, I'm looking forward to collecting $1,000 from you.

03:03:22.000 Man, maybe more if it's President Trump again.

03:03:25.000 Yeah, less than four years, I'll collect my $1,000 because he's going to announce he's running.

03:03:29.000 That's true.

03:03:29.000 In about three, maybe three hours.

03:03:32.000 Dude.

03:03:33.000 Oh, God.

03:03:34.000 Are you ever going to make your way up to Idaho and go fishing?

03:03:37.000 Yes.

03:03:37.000 I would love to.

03:03:38.000 You've got to come up.

03:03:39.000 And you've got to do a show again up there.

03:03:40.000 The people in Boise keep out.

03:03:41.000 Every time I say we're getting together, they're saying, oh my God, when's he coming back?

03:03:45.000 I say, well, not right now because you've got the pandemic.

03:03:47.000 Yeah.

03:03:48.000 You guys need to loosen your laws like Florida. 0.99

03:03:50.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want in Florida. 0.98

03:03:52.000 You know what? 0.99

03:03:53.000 It's been pretty good up there.

03:03:54.000 The numbers spike a little bit.

03:03:56.000 Well, people are surviving now.

03:03:58.000 It's not like the old days.

03:04:00.000 People keep saying the cases are up.

03:04:01.000 They are.

03:04:02.000 But also survival's up.

03:04:04.000 What's magical is the flu.

03:04:06.000 It's been down so much.

03:04:07.000 I think the flu is down like 98%, which I think is something crazy like that.

03:04:13.000 See what the numbers flu is down this year.

03:04:16.000 It's something crazy.

03:04:17.000 And I think they're attributing that to people wearing masks, which is really interesting.

03:04:22.000 Yeah, makes good sense.

03:04:24.000 Maybe we need to become a mask-wearing society from now on.

03:04:27.000 I hope not.

03:04:29.000 I like faces.

03:04:30.000 Yeah, I like faces too, and it's just...

03:04:32.000 Yeah, we will get back to normal.

03:04:35.000 Pandemic's end.

03:04:36.000 That's, by definition, the pandemic's end.

03:04:39.000 And we will have another one.

03:04:41.000 And so then you hope that we're smart enough to have learned something from this.

03:04:45.000 Mike Baker, always a good time talking to you, sir.

03:04:47.000 Thank you, man.

03:04:48.000 Appreciate it.

03:04:48.000 Oh, your show.

03:04:49.000 When's it?

03:04:50.000 Oh, hey.

03:04:51.000 Thank you for asking.

03:04:53.000 Yeah, we got that show.

03:04:54.000 Black Files to Classify. 0.69

03:04:55.000 We start filming the second season in January.

03:04:57.000 And we are going to have an interesting episode on, not necessarily on aliens, but on the program surrounding the government's investigation of unidentified objects and things.

03:05:07.000 So we're going to dive a lot deeper into it.

03:05:11.000 Hopefully I'll come back and I'll have answers, specific answers for your question.

03:05:15.000 All right.

03:05:15.000 That would be a first.

03:05:16.000 That's the ad I got on the Georgia election results.

03:05:18.000 Dick Keynes. 0.96

03:05:21.000 Because we were looking up dick canes the other day. 0.99

03:05:23.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious. 0.98

03:05:25.000 Alright, thanks Mike.

03:05:27.000 Appreciate you buddy.

03:05:27.000 Thank you so much.

03:05:28.000 Goodbye everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 07, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1560 - Mike Baker

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