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00:01:41.000Becky snuck up while I was sleeping, put the clippers right under my nose because I'm a light sleeper, and then turn it on, clip my mustache just like that.
00:01:49.000All they have to do is just cut it off on the sides and give you a Hitler.
00:02:32.000Yeah, he was like a famous porn star in the 80s, in the heyday, back in the Bush days, and not George W., And then he, there he is, Harry Reams.
00:04:39.000Yeah, they had five people in the house or something like that, and people ratted them out.
00:04:44.000As soon as you make something a law, and then you send cops out to enforce that, and the cops think they're justified, and you get a few dumb cops, and then they do something like this, it just lets everybody know, like, oh, this is why it's dangerous to have too many restrictions.
00:04:59.000Because then you have people that have to enforce those restrictions.
00:05:02.000Right, and they're not doing their job.
00:05:04.000The sheriff and the head of police in California or in Los Angeles came out and said they wouldn't uphold the restrictions that Newsom was putting in, I think in San Francisco also, because it would take them away from their ability to do the real work, protecting the citizens,
00:05:22.000You know, what happened in Staten Island is just mind-boggling with that restaurateur was arrested and given a $10,000 a day fine for having his restaurant open.
00:05:47.000It just seems to me that the amount of money that it would have cost to open up new ICU rooms and figure out a way to staff them would have been far less than the amount of money that it's costing all these people to lose their businesses,
00:06:08.000The amount of money, you could have figured out a way to tax people and say, We're going to let everybody open up, but we need a temporary tax on sales of whatever that'll just go to help this.
00:06:21.000And people probably would have said, okay, it'll just keep...
00:06:28.000You can choose to go to work, choose to go to these restaurants, choose to go to these bars, and we'll figure out some way to open up more...
00:06:36.000Wasn't New York City doing something like that?
00:06:38.000I don't I think they were doing some...
00:06:40.000In restaurants, they were adding a small amount of additional tax to compensate for the COVID... They shut down indoor dining.
00:06:50.000At least they have outdoor dining, which is hilarious.
00:06:54.000New York has it, and it's fucking freezing and snowing.
00:07:00.000It's one woman who decides to shut everything down...
00:07:03.000Goes to dinner outside the day she does it and lied and said the reason why she was doing it is because her favorite restaurant and she wanted to say she was sorry to the staff and apologized for what they had to do.
00:08:42.000They're just something we have now to utilize and then put a lot of credibility on it.
00:08:46.000The difference between the different PCR testing is that So there's a spike around Christmas time, which is supposedly due to what?
00:08:56.000Is the idea that it's due to gatherings?
00:08:59.000Because they were trying to say that it's related to Thanksgiving.
00:09:04.000So between October, November, end of November, but if you look at it, it seems like two weeks after the end of November, that would make sense, right?
00:09:12.000That would be right around, show me like...
00:09:17.000Yeah, well, that's longer than two weeks, right?
00:09:43.000It's not good, but, you know, someone pointed out that the CDC website has finally got information on it about vitamin D and some other things.
00:09:53.000They just put it on there, just in December.
00:09:55.000We're just like, Jesus, guys, nine months into a fucking pandemic, and you just started putting things on about vitamins and the importance of nutrition?
00:10:04.000And that's one of the issues that they're really missing is nutritional.
00:10:06.000I think I was sharing with you earlier about in India, which has four times the amount of population as the United States, they've only recorded 167, I have a slide up there, 167,000 people.
00:10:18.000And it's because in their nutrition, they have things that carry the protective zinc into the cell, which are called inophores, which is hydrochloroquine is one of them, Quercetin, EGCG, which is the green extract from green tea extract.
00:10:36.000We need to have a carrier to bring charged particles into our cells like zinc, magnesium, and so forth.
00:10:44.000So zinc, Dr. Saluth out of Johns Hopkins did a beautiful dissertation where he showed that when zinc is inside the cell and you get the COVID virus, Genome being injected.
00:11:12.000I mean, for the past 25 years in our practice, we use zinc as a means of slowing down the conversion of testosterone to estradiol.
00:11:21.000Well, it turns out that that has protected our patient population.
00:11:24.000With our population being what it is, we've only had one person get COVID out of the entire group, and that's because they've all been on quercetin, which is a means of increasing energy production.
00:11:35.000And I'll tell you honestly, I didn't know that it was an inophore until just a year ago, but it carried the zinc that they were taking.
00:11:41.000The reason they were taking quercetin is because it upregulates ATP, the energy molecule of the body.
00:11:47.000Didn't you also say that quercetin has some sort of a nootropic effect as well?
00:11:51.000Yeah, in the brain it drops inflammation.
00:11:53.000You know, the way that we lose our cognitive ability is by inflammation.
00:11:58.000And that's the whole premise of what, you know, Andrew and I are doing relative to treating our veterans as well as civilians, is quercetin as well as zinc itself has the ability to drop inflammation in the brain.
00:12:11.000You drop inflammation and you get improvement in cognitive ability.
00:12:55.000But they drink green tea, which is another inophore that brings it in.
00:13:00.000Maybe in certain nutrients there's bismuth, so that helps.
00:13:03.000Or pepto-bismol if they've got an upset stomach.
00:13:06.000And doesn't vitamin K also, is it vitamin K that helps the absorption of vitamin D3? Is that what it is?
00:13:13.000The use of vitamin K, the story behind it is, if you take vitamin D, the main function that we've thought about vitamin D, though right now it's this unbelievable hormone.
00:13:27.000As you know, vitamin D is not really a vitamin, it's a hormone that comes off of cholesterol.
00:13:30.000So if we do anything to diminish our cholesterol levels in our body, we lose not only All the hormones that are generated off of cholesterol, but we lose vitamin D. Does that happen when people take statins?
00:16:08.000It's like in a lot of the guys that come in on testosterone alone.
00:16:13.000They're having problems even being on testosterone whether or not it's a high dose or low dose or medium dose.
00:16:18.000They're not having the full benefits of having a balanced hormonal system.
00:16:21.000And we should talk about why they're taking damage to the pituitary gland that a lot of soldiers experience from blasts.
00:16:29.000Well, the regulatory system, the hypothalamus, is like a sensor.
00:16:33.000And it says, okay, what's in the blood right now?
00:16:36.000It says low level of testosterone sends a signal to the pituitary, the master gland, to release LH or luteinizing hormone that goes to the gonads, whether or not it's male or female, to generate more testosterone.
00:16:49.000And then that level of testosterone, the rise of testosterone in the blood, goes back to the hypothalamus, and the hypothalamus says, oh, we've got enough testosterone, let's shut down the stimulation of the pituitary, drop the stimulation of the testicles.
00:17:03.000So any kind of trauma, like we've had guys who had IED blow up underneath their vehicle, and the blast wave was enough to destroy the testicles, so they could not, even under appropriate stimulation, generate testosterone.
00:17:17.000So that's called primary hypogonadism, where it damages the testicles.
00:17:23.000And they're high levels of luteinizing hormone because it's trying to get the testicles or the gonads to make hormones.
00:17:55.000That you eat a good amount of vegetables, fruits, legumes included in it, but what's happened is our soils are being depleted of all the nutrients that you need, so you need to supplement.
00:18:11.000So, staying away from glutens, all the artificial glutens, inflammatory diets...
00:18:20.000What do you mean by artificial glutens?
00:22:47.000Dr. Rhonda Patrick has put out many published Or put on our Twitter, rather, many published studies about vitamin D and all the benefits of it.
00:23:05.000If you're looking at viral protection, because there's a study that was done where it showed if you were at the less than 30, less than 30 nanograms is the deficiency state.
00:23:20.000You looked at the occurrence of COVID and the death or the illness that's generated or that occurs It's like 85% of the people who have low, less than 30, have it.
00:23:32.000And as you move up the scale to the higher level, greater than 60, you see 90% of the people have nothing.
00:23:39.000They have no symptomatology for it because what it does is it protects the body, stimulates the immune system and protects the body from the inflammatory cytokines, which is the Yeah, I think.
00:24:08.000So people are developing depression, cognitive impairment, intonation, no energy, and it's all because of these cytokines.
00:24:14.000Once you turn on the cytokines, like we see in our blast trauma veterans, it'll cause these inflammatory chemicals to start leaching or eating away at pathways in the brain, alters the chemistry of the brain.
00:24:28.000See, that's so confusing to people because a lot of times you hear about cytokines, you hear about like cryotherapy and things along those lines, and you hear cytokines used in a positive way.
00:25:09.000So that steroid suppressed his immune system's response to the virus.
00:25:14.000Same thing that we use steroids for autoimmune diseases before we had these selective medications that selectively diminish Certain of the cytokines like tumor necrosis factor alpha, there's a product called Embril that specifically suppresses it.
00:25:29.000And we use it for people with psoriatic arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and Crohn's disease.
00:25:34.000And it's interesting that the people with autoimmune diseases who are producing these cytokines that create the physical manifestations, they all have depression.
00:25:43.000And when you treat them for the inflammation, the depression subsides.
00:25:47.000So you think that a big part of what depression is, is the inflammatory response in the body?
00:27:00.000For someone who's like a CrossFitter or someone who does something crazy, high-intensity, burns a lot of calories, do you think then they could handle shit like pasta easier?
00:27:36.000Instead of being depleted in one of the hormones that helps with metabolism, it's now brought up, and they need to eat more.
00:27:42.000So a lot of guys, or I shouldn't say a lot, there are people who complain that they're fatigued.
00:27:47.000They thought they'd get more energy, but they're more fatigued.
00:27:49.000It's because their nutrition is poor, and that's where Allison comes in and helps them to readjust and address their nutrition.
00:27:56.000I wonder if, I mean, and this is not talking about people that have had traumatic brain injury, but I wonder if people that are suffering from depression, have they ever done a study on changing their diet and eliminating inflammatory foods like sugars and pasta and processed carbohydrates and see what kind of an impact that has on before they give them SSRIs?
00:28:15.000I don't know if before SSRIs, I'd like to say yes, but there have been studies, and you go to Google Scholar and look it up, but they have looked at the different diets and how it affects their emotional state.
00:28:31.000So depression, anxiety, ADD or ADHD, that we find that high inflammatory nutrition makes it worse.
00:28:42.000High inflammatory or gut inflammation from dysbiosis, not having the right bacteria, having been on antibiotics or certain medication that disrupts the balance of bacteria in the gut, which alters the way that we absorb our food.
00:28:57.000And it also generates inflammation, creates depression.
00:29:01.000So if you're going to put someone on sort of a preventative protocol for COVID, you would recommend quercetin?
00:29:08.000I just bought some on Amazon after you brought it up because I wasn't taking quercetin.
00:29:15.000Well, what we started off just for daily use because the benefit of quercetin is it drops the inflammatory cytokines.
00:29:26.000It increases mitochondria, so you produce more cells, so you produce more energy, ATP. That was what we were using for, and it was 500 milligrams twice a day.
00:29:37.000And zinc was 15 to 30 milligrams twice a day.
00:29:41.000And in the past 20 years, I've been sick 13 days.
00:29:45.000And what I started seeing in our population, because we do a monthly questionnaire to our patient population, and we have two questions about allergies and about infections or colds.
00:29:54.000And we started seeing years ago that the number of colds people were having were dropping and their allergies were improving.
00:30:02.000And honestly, I didn't understand why until COVID and I started looking at how the immune system is influenced by things like zinc and certain of testosterone.
00:30:14.000Testosterone stimulates the CD4, CD8 cells, which are the immune cells that help to defend us against infections, viral, bacterial, innate immunity.
00:30:25.000As well as it increases something called intralukin-10, which is an anti-inflammatory product, and it drops the inflammatory intralukins.
00:30:35.000These are the cytokines produced by our immune system to help fight off infections by sending out an attack against them, which is a biochemical attack, other than just antibodies.
00:30:46.000So you've got zinc, 15 to 30 milligrams twice a day, quercetin, 500 milligrams twice a day, that's preventive.
00:30:54.000Treatment, and we've had to treat patients outside of our practice, is a thousand milligrams twice a day with a thousand milligrams twice a day of quercetin and 30 milligrams twice a day of zinc.
00:31:06.000And this is for someone that has COVID? That's someone who's active.
00:31:09.000And what's going on with zinc and quercetin and COVID? How does it interact?
00:31:18.000The virus that gets into our cells, it gets into our cells through something called an ACE2 receptor, and that's what the vaccine is fighting against.
00:33:14.000But is there any negative aspect to it?
00:33:16.000Yeah, there are negative aspects to high levels of vitamin D, but not due to vitamin D, due to what it does.
00:33:24.000What vitamin D does, as I said earlier, is it brings calcium in from your nutrition and takes phosphorus in so it can build bone.
00:33:33.000Calcium, if it's too high, hyperkalemia will cause the nausea, vomiting, and can cause the irregularity of the heart.
00:33:41.000So if you're taking high dosing of calcium for whatever reason, and you take high dosing of vitamin D, you would be at risk for developing nausea, vomiting, and toxicity.
00:33:51.000A study that was done, which is also on the paper I gave you, they did 113,000 hospitalized people And they looked at their vitamin D level.
00:34:01.000They all had been taking vitamin D. They only found, I think it was four people who had toxicity from elevated levels of vitamin D. And it turned out it was the liquid form of vitamin D that created the problem.
00:34:12.000So from that standpoint, vitamin D is very safe.
00:34:15.000And I'm talking up numbers that are 60 to 100. I try to keep my range at 80 to 100 because of studies that are shown.
00:35:49.000You go and do the blood test and you see giving them 10,000, they get a, you know, still suboptimal level of vitamin D. It's because they're not absorbing it.
00:35:58.000So I can't assume that 10,000 is going to give them toxic levels, you know, calcium absorption.
00:36:44.000I'll put a patient on a protocol, and then three months later I'll go and test them and see where their levels are at.
00:36:49.000If they're at a great level on that amount, that's perfect for them.
00:36:54.000How do I know that whatever I'm giving them is going to be too much, too little, or perfect?
00:36:59.000And then the level of absorption, which will indicate in their blood, will indicate what levels are shown in the blood, is directly related to their diet as well?
00:38:28.000Look, why did we develop this whole system of vitamin D? The vitamin D receptor stimulates hair growth to cover our body with hair to avoid the ionizing radiation that our ancestors Neolithic ancestors used to have.
00:39:35.000And the silliest thing, I was there for New Year's one year in February, and they shot off $45 million worth of rockets and fireworks and firecrackers and all that added pollution.
00:40:27.000If someone doesn't have a good place to go, they don't have a good doctor to go, how do they find a doctor that could read their vitamin levels on their blood work?
00:40:45.000And in functional medicine, they're looking at your amino acids, they're looking at your vitamin levels, they're looking at your mineral levels, which need to be done.
00:40:52.000We're not getting our minerals anymore because we're getting bottled water.
00:42:19.000I mean, this is all we're talking about like during this COVID pandemic where everybody's really concerned about their immune system and protecting themselves from...
00:42:27.000Yeah, DHEA is also an immune stimulator.
00:42:31.000DHEA, you know, studies that came out of Massachusetts, male aging study, showed that DHEA is extremely important for protecting the heart.
00:42:40.000When they looked at, you know, quartiles, the lowest 25% of the range versus the highest, you saw a significant loss of heart attack deaths and a significant decrease in hospitalizations due to heart attack, and that's DHEA. It also stimulates the immune system,
00:42:57.000so it upregulates the ability of our system to defend itself.
00:43:18.000DHT is a byproduct of testosterone because it's the combination of DHEA getting DHT, dihydrotestosterone, in the cell that allows for sugar to be brought into the myocytes, into the muscle cells.
00:43:30.000So there are articles out there talking about if you want to get the optimal benefit for muscle growth, You need to make sure your DHEA levels are optimal to get the DHT to increase glycogen in the muscle cells.
00:43:44.000So use that for energy and for growth.
00:43:46.000That's interesting because DHT is also something that's usually frowned upon because people consider it the thing that causes hair loss.
00:44:30.000But other people don't have that reaction, apparently.
00:44:33.000Some people don't have a problem with it.
00:44:34.000Yeah, it's interesting you bring that up.
00:44:37.000The Post Finasteride Foundation, or Post Finasteride Syndrome Foundation, we're in the top of providers of care, because the The problem that happens from finasteride is that it inhibits two very important pathways in the brain.
00:44:55.000One that gives you the ability to grow muscles, the other one which is emotional.
00:44:59.000So traditionally, the approach for treating the side effects has been just improving DHT. The Propecia, what's the other name?
00:45:25.000You take testosterone or you take DHEA, which will generate testosterone to generate DHT. So DHT in our brain is what gives us our energy, our libido, our activity level, our cognition to some degree.
00:45:43.000And then another pathway, which has totally been ignored, is the one where the 5-alpha reductase, which is the enzyme that the propecia of finasteride kills, is important for generating something called allopregnanolone from pregnenolone.
00:46:00.000Allopregnanolone just came out as a drug last year, or excuse me, two years ago, For $34,000 a year called brixanilone is the chemical name for it.
00:46:12.000And brixanilone is being used for anti-depression, anti-anxiety, and postpartum depression, which tells us how important pregnenolone is to become progesterone, to become this thing called allopregnanolone in giving you mental stability.
00:46:29.000So what happens is inflammation that we see in our head trauma cases, it disrupts that pregnenolone, which is also called the mother of all hormones, because it gives rise to all our hormones.
00:46:42.000So you should supplement with that as well?
00:47:11.000The biological clock in the body, you can get benefits in other areas, not just DHEA. But DHEA also helps stabilize glucose and insulin interaction, stimulates the immune system, wound healing, and drops inflammation.
00:48:09.000There are a lot of products out there that are used for when you get sick.
00:48:14.000You know, as a means of, it helps stimulate the immune system.
00:48:18.000It also, I believe that because it's acidic, alkaline acidic, when it gets into the system, it helps to kill the virus, okay, by changing the pH, but you have to take a large quantity of it.
00:48:32.000You know, they have for cancer therapy, 20,000, 50,000 units of vitamin C. And it's usually IV, right?
00:48:41.000You can't absorb more than about 10,000 units from the gut, not unless it's nanoliposomal, because the vitamin C is actively transported, meaning that it has a mechanism to transport it into the system.
00:48:55.000Now, what about things like glutathione and other powerful antioxidants?
00:49:00.000Yeah, glutathione is really good for the brain.
00:49:02.000A vitamin C, one specific type of vitamin C, which is called ascorbate palmitate from palmitic acid.
00:51:52.000Well, this is how, you know, I met Andrew, you brought him in here, and we got a chance to discuss this incredible work that you guys are doing with veterans, and really giving people hope that have been suffering from TBIs, these traumatic brain injuries,
00:52:07.000and when there's no real clear treatment, you guys really found a great path.
00:52:14.000Well, I'll walk up until his brilliance and with his brother Adam writing this book, Tales from the Blast Factory.
00:52:23.000When Andrew first arrived at the doorstep, you can tell that he was...
00:53:07.000So anyway, long story short, he and his brother write this book, A Tale from the Blast Factory, and the editor hands it to a girlfriend of hers, Jerry Shearer, this incredible producer, director, writer, screenwriter.
00:53:22.000And develops this project, which is called Quiet Explosions.
00:53:27.000And it looks across the spectrum of not only military, but Professional football players, gymnasts, and regular folks.
00:53:36.000And the impact of the science that we've been able to extract from the science that already exists and its application and proving that addressing these inflammatory cytokines and the loss of hormone production in the brain was capable of improving their quality of life.
00:54:00.000They were able to get off medications.
00:54:02.000Now, for people that, obviously there's varying levels of the damage that soldiers experience.
00:54:11.000With some of them, do you not prescribe an injectable testosterone?
00:54:53.000So we started looking at things that I'd used in the past.
00:54:57.000Mostly guys would come to me for rekindling their hormone production because they were on an incredible amount of steroidal hormones that shut their system down.
00:55:06.000So they came to me to get their system back up and running.
00:55:10.000What steroidal hormones would shut your system down?
00:55:14.0001,000 milligrams of testosterone with 500 milligrams of Nangelone Decohenate with- Oh, steroids.
00:55:32.000And someone that I had worked with- In my inception of treating them, which I was totally against use of anabolic steroids, because if you ate well, exercised, and you should be able to make your own hormones,
00:55:49.000and I learned different, certain people that just didn't.
00:55:52.000So we started using beta-HCG, using things like Clomid to try and turn their system back on.
00:56:01.000And then 2014, we started a project trying to find the lowest possible dose of Clomifin citrate that would stimulate their own production of luteinizing hormone to stimulate their testicular functioning of testosterone.
00:56:15.000And we found a pattern that seemed to work best.
00:56:18.000And the beauty of it was, it wasn't a daily tablet.
00:56:22.000If you look at the studies in women who were on daily tablets, they had, you know, complaints of mood swings and bloating and some ocular kind of problems.
00:56:32.000But that was daily dosing of between 50 to 200 milligrams of Clomid.
00:56:36.000We used 25, 50 milligrams every 72 hours.
00:56:39.000That's what we were able to define, that that was the dosing that worked very well to get optimal levels of testosterone.
00:56:47.000Why does it need to be spaced out for 72 hours?
00:56:51.000Because the half-life of clomiphon is 98 days, and the actual stimulation of the testicles is like 32 days.
00:56:59.000So even though you didn't take the pill for 72 hours, you still had the momentum of producing...
00:57:07.000You said days, you meant hours, 92 hours.
00:57:28.000Well, what happens is you're constantly driving the pituitary.
00:57:32.000To make luteinizing hormone, which could put you at risk for developing enlargement of the cells, which we haven't seen yet, because we space it every 72 hours.
00:57:42.000You don't mean science in general, you just mean you and your practice.
00:57:45.000Well, it took three years to come up with this pattern, and we have tons of laboratory results to show the benefit By pulsing it, we did every day for five days a week.
00:58:17.000What we believe, what I believe and how I practice is if they're on anabolic steroids and you give them Clomid concurrently, not at the end, you give it concurrently, what it does is it keeps the tone of the circuit between the hypothalamus pituitary and the gonads still working.
00:58:35.000When you give testosterone alone, what happens is you shut off the brain's sensing, and you shut down the pituitary, and you shut down the testicles, because the testicles, the cells called latig cells, they need to be stimulated, otherwise they scar or atrophy.
00:58:50.000So if you've been on injectable testosterone for long periods of time without taking a break or giving your system something to stimulate the production, what will happen is they'll be gone and you can't recover it.
00:59:02.000And I've seen, you know, I've had some guys in the past that there was nothing we can do to recover their testicular functioning, the cells, because they burnt out.
00:59:30.000But also topical testosterone, that's because dihydrotestosterone, I said it was four times more anabolic than testosterone, is three times stronger at shutting down your regulatory mechanism in the brain.
00:59:44.000So that's why I haven't used topical testosterone for 10, 15 years, 10, 12 years, because it's so damaging.
00:59:52.000Isn't it also a problem like if you have a partner and you start getting frisky, you might get it on them and then your significant other grows one of them porn stasters?
01:00:03.000It's because they too will have the secondary effects of testosterone.
01:00:07.000Our skin has the converting enzyme that converts it to dihydrotestosterone.
01:00:12.000And that's the reason why women who used to be given topical testosterone to put on their wrist would accidentally smear it onto their arms and they'd get darkening of their skin.
01:00:25.000So if they're light skin, light lanugo hair, it would get dark and they'd get a patch.
01:00:30.000Also, DHT can cause them to grow hair behind their knuckles on their hands.
01:00:42.000Okay, so when you started developing this protocol for treating soldiers and different people with TBIs, was there some adjusting?
01:00:55.000Did you have to kind of figure it out as you went along?
01:00:57.000I mean, how many studies did you have to read?
01:01:01.000I have over 8,000 studies in my collection on Mendeley, where I keep all the articles.
01:01:07.000And, you know, I go through 10-15 articles a week right now, and every Sunday I send out to our journal club one of the key articles that he reads every Sunday, right?
01:01:17.000How many articles for your last book did you have to read?
01:01:23.0001,600 that I documented, but there were a lot of articles that I read, just the abstract and the introduction and conclusion and not the gobbledygook in the middle that were added.
01:01:33.000But as I said, all the science that we're using has already been written about, has already been documented repetitively.
01:02:35.000The ones that we did a study last year on was tumor necrosis factor alpha, Interleukin-1, 1B, and tumor necrosis factor, excuse me, interleukin-6.
01:02:48.000And we've now narrowed it down to interleukin-6 and tumor necrosis factor alpha.
01:02:53.000And the reason why is that tumor necrosis factor alpha is linked to autoimmune diseases, as I said earlier, and people who are put on to a blocker for tumor necrosis factor alpha, an expensive medication, their depression disappeared.
01:03:08.000Well, what we found is natural products which will regulate cytokines and regulate these intralukin-1, 6, and tumor necrosis factor alpha.
01:03:19.000And that has become the core of our treatment right now.
01:06:26.000Now, when you talk about all these different things, should someone take something like this along with that stack that you described earlier with the quercetin and the zinc and the vitamin D3? They don't need to take this unless we're dealing with somewhat traumatic brain injury.
01:06:42.000What we talked about was a stack for...
01:06:44.000This, what you're talking about with this is just, but if someone is taking this stuff, do they have to adjust?
01:06:51.000Like if they have a traumatic brain injury and they're taking these various concoctions, do they also, if they're trying to protect themselves from COVID, do they have to take into account how much quercetin is in this as well as how much ascorbate palmitate is in this and not overdo it?
01:07:12.000If they were on that stack, yeah, if they were on the stack and didn't have an issue relative to traumatic brain injury, I'd tell them, you know, to hold off on this.
01:07:22.000Okay, so this stuff we're talking about here is really only for people that have traumatic brain injuries.
01:07:27.000Right, but the one which is called Brain Care 2, my youngest daughter that you met, Rochelle, I think I'm going to go.
01:08:12.000If you go to the COVID letters, it's on...
01:08:19.000That same page, if you go COVID letter and pull up the third one, which is number seven, you'll see that in New York, they're now reporting, and this is in May, they started reporting that people that are recovering from COVID are developing these personality mood swings,
01:08:35.000not only cognitive impairment, but irritability and depression.
01:09:18.000Okay, so they reported it in New York.
01:09:24.000They reported these cases where people were having nervous system issues, epilepsy, and people who had never had a history of epilepsy.
01:09:32.000We have patients with post-blast trauma who were put on to epileptic medication because inflammation that wasn't being addressed.
01:09:41.000They were just giving Dilantin or one of the other medications for For a seizure.
01:09:45.000And on protocol, I tell everyone, don't stop your medication unless you go to your primary care doc or the doc who's dispensing and talking.
01:09:54.000Some of the guys are just stopping it.
01:09:56.000And they haven't had a seizure because inflammation causes migraines, insomnia, depression, and it's on a couple of those papers there.
01:10:06.000So in non-epileptics, it can actually cause epileptic seizures.
01:10:22.000They talked about cytokine storm, okay?
01:10:25.000I used to call it cytokine dumping, you know, back five, six years ago.
01:10:29.000So for people that are listening right now that have beaten COVID, but they're still suffering from fatigue and brain fog, what should they do?
01:10:38.000They can do an academic approach, which is go back to their doctor and have the doctor draw their levels of those inflammatory cytokines, tumor necrosis factor alpha, interleukin, 6, 1B, and 1, and look at it.
01:10:52.000If they're elevated, you need to reduce it.
01:10:54.000So the study that we did last year, it was a three-month study.
01:11:01.000Is we saw guys who were having difficulties coming into the practice.
01:11:06.000We added on these tests and we saw the elevation in the level of these inflammatory cytokines and then we treated them on our protocol and then we looked again three months later at how well they were doing and then at the levels.
01:11:19.000The correlation was those people who had initially had elevation in cytokines who were put on our protocol And then came back and had their subsequent follow-up lab at three months, and they were feeling better, their levels of the inflammatory cytokines were down to normal.
01:11:34.000We had a guy that had five and six times the level of his levels, and they came down.
01:12:04.000So it's like they just kind of make sure you're not going to die and then go ahead and then...
01:12:09.000It's like the guys in the military who are exposed to blast trauma, they receive treatment, and then they're let to go because a lot of them are medically discharged.
01:12:40.000So a lot of this is preventative as well, because you can stop the inflammatory mechanism from going to becoming chronic by implementing this as a regular protocol.
01:12:51.000Before we had, or at the time we had Brain Care 2 come out, we had some of our patients who had gotten better, the civilian population, who had gotten better on our protocol, and then they get into a subsequent automobile accident or motorcycle accident, and they freak out because they're back to where they were two years earlier.
01:13:08.000So we have them go on to the brain care, too, taking a teaspoon in the morning before breakfast, 30 to 60 minutes, and a teaspoon before dinner.
01:13:16.000Three to four weeks later, they're back to where they were before the injury.
01:13:19.000And that's because they had built up something called biological resiliency.
01:13:23.000This is a topic that we're developing where...
01:13:28.000This treatment protocol is like putting on Keflar.
01:13:44.000The acosinoids, which are the fish oils, and how they upregulate two proteins, survivin and protectin, and drop the inflammatory cytokines.
01:13:55.000It functions on an area called NF-kappa B, which is a translational.
01:13:59.000When it's turned on, it tells the cell to make these inflammatory components.
01:14:05.000The cosenoids, the fish oil, are extremely important.
01:14:27.000Good vitamin E, good fish oil, dropping alcohol consumption because alcohol destroys growth hormone.
01:14:33.000And articles that have been coming out shows that growth hormone helps with repair of the brain.
01:14:38.000There are studies that are done on Alzheimer's patients where the destruction of the tubules and the tau protein and all that, it gets better on growth hormone.
01:14:49.000Also a study in 2017 out of England showed that In people who had treatment-resistant depression, meaning that they were on antidepressants but they weren't getting any benefit from it, 61% of the people had growth hormone deficiency.
01:15:07.000And when they put them on something to raise the level of growth hormone, what they saw in one to two months is their depression disappeared and they ended up with four benefits.
01:15:17.000They slept better, they had brighter brains, they had better interpersonal relationships, and they weren't fly off the handle.
01:17:26.000They'd have to measure it out equivalent.
01:17:28.000Meaning that, you know, the fish oil would be 10,000 IUs is equivalent to 10,000 IUs of...
01:17:33.000But, like, flaxseed oil and a lot of those essential fatty acids is not going to...
01:17:38.000Flaxseed is beneficial, but for the brain, I'm so focused on things that I don't look outside that box, and I probably should.
01:17:47.000But in the mission that we're on is very focal, and therefore DHA turned out to be the best.
01:17:54.000Also, tocopherols, which are the vitamin E, gamma tocopherols, the keen, is the one that really helps down-regulate.
01:18:02.000And when you mix the vitamin E tocopherol with NACL cysteine, The two of them together drops the NF-kappa B, which is the inflammatory trigger in the brain or in the body.
01:18:14.000So we've had patients who have improved with below the neck, improving in orthopedic or joint-related arthritic kind of complaints.
01:18:27.000And it was 18 products before, and now it's just three, because we used to get a lot of complaints from our population.
01:19:07.000Continue to make a significant impact, positive impact, and this was the next thing we could reach more people.
01:19:12.000And that's just Mark's genius over the years.
01:19:14.000If you can, just so that we make this stand alone, tell me about your own personal experiences, like what you experienced overseas, what kind of impact that had on you, and what kind of impact going through this treatment had.
01:19:46.000And I don't say that because I think that this is based off the last two of what's happened.
01:19:51.000This information will come out and people's lives will be turned around.
01:19:55.000And so it just touches me to know that.
01:19:58.000And to be where I was in 2014 When I was pretty sure that I was going to have to take my own life because the negative effects that I was having on my family seemed to be outside of my conscious control.
01:20:16.000So high level, I spent about a decade in special operations.
01:20:19.000I was exposed to a lot of explosive blasts.
01:20:22.000So, you know, those guys were elite performers in situations of life and death.
01:20:27.000And that's pretty consistent with my entire life up until a certain point.
01:20:32.000So I went from this high-level performer without a scratch on my body, you know, no physical impairment.
01:20:40.000To being on 13 different medications, I was labeled with 30 plus disabilities, and I was just an absolute nightmare.
01:20:51.000I was plagued with anxiety and depression.
01:20:54.000My cognition had just gone by the wayside.
01:21:04.000Going back to the film that we have out now, Quiet Explosions, I remember watching a documentary film, and I won't give the name of the film, but I remember watching it and just crying because it was showing all these NFL guys and WWE wrestlers And that had CTE,
01:21:23.000which is, you know, neuroinflammation.
01:21:26.000And it's showing, hey man, here are all the effects that are coming with CTE from secondary to head trauma.
01:21:35.000And there's nothing that you can do about it.
01:21:37.000Once that clock has started, you have about 10 years until you're in full-on dementia.
01:21:42.000And you just writing it out, hopefully we can make life comfortable for you until you're in full-on dementia.
01:21:47.000And I can remember being 32, 33 and just thinking like, there's nothing we can do.
01:21:55.000So the information that we're about to convey, it didn't exist in the public domain like it does now.
01:22:38.000I was at my son's hospital bed, and I realized if I traveled on that same path that I was on, that same trajectory, I kept blaming all the things in my life that it was going to kill me.
01:22:49.000But worse than that, I realized at that point that I was of zero value.
01:23:00.000One, that I would return to the man in my pre-injury status.
01:23:04.000Two, that I would get off all that medication that I was on because it just turned my life from a very difficult situation into a disaster.
01:23:12.000And I did not care what had to be done to make that happen.
01:23:16.000What kind of medication did they have you on?
01:23:50.000I was like, after those two things are accomplished, number three is I'm going to turn around, I'm going to spend the rest of my days helping somebody else who's in the exact same position as myself.
01:23:58.000And how'd you find out about the treatment?
01:24:00.000So I started at that point looking for different alternative modalities because the only thing that we do, the status quo treatment for traumatic brain injury still, Psychotropic medication and talk therapy, which in my case did not do anything to identify nor treat the underlying condition.
01:24:26.000Through intuition, I said, this obviously isn't treating whatever it is.
01:24:30.000There's got to be something to do that.
01:24:32.000So I started to go outside and look at alternative means, started talking to other operators and looking at whatever else could be out there.
01:24:40.000And the movie kind of chronicles this.
01:24:44.000I was down in a functional neurology place getting treatment down in Dallas, Texas, and it got some press, and Mark saw it, and he wrote to me.
01:24:53.000But the point being was we were able to institute, you know, what he's talking about here, lab test, identify neuroinflammation, identify deficiencies.
01:25:14.000We've now replicated that over 400 times within the military and veteran population, and Mark's done it over 3,000 times.
01:25:22.000So the point being was, he said we wrote Tales from the Blast Factory, and it was kind of too chronical as a how-to for somebody that was navigating this.
01:25:33.000My brother was like the force behind that.
01:25:35.000And, you know, these things I just couldn't believe how well it did.
01:25:39.000And it ended up getting to this director, Jerry Shear, and she said, hey, we got to turn this into a documentary film.
01:25:46.000And we were thinking, you know, we were just focused on specifically veterans, military, you know, athletes.
01:25:53.000This is a much big societal issue or problem.
01:25:56.000And we'll probably go in that direction and explain why.
01:26:00.000But we said, hey, is there a way that we can encapsulate and communicate these very advanced neurological concepts into a compelling story for the first time ever on the big screen and counterbalance some of the information that's out there with actual heart-based scientific evidence and show people going through this process and actually coming out better on the other side.
01:28:08.000For the first time ever, not only do I identify a problem, we show an actually, scientifically, and evidence-based solution To improve quality of life.
01:28:19.000And I mean, that's just so incredible.
01:28:48.000In 2015, I released the book, TBI, Clinical Approach, Diagnosis, and Treatment, which was the foundational literature with 1,600 articles in it to start the process of training doctors to replicate what I've done.
01:29:04.000And what happened was a lot of the doctors found that the information was too overwhelming.
01:29:10.000So about four years ago, started writing a program and a software package, which is an expert AI system for not only TBI, but for also TRT,
01:29:27.000HRT, wellness, age management, anti-aging medicine.
01:29:32.000So that you put in all the parameters that you would do with a patient sitting in front of you, their laboratory results, medication they're on, and it would analyze the information for you.
01:29:42.000So it took me, you know, 30 years to get all the algorithms together and then four years to consolidate it into a software package.
01:29:51.000Wonderful program, Sam Nee, who has taken it to build the interface so that it's available.
01:30:00.000So launched it, what, three months ago, launched it in the cloud.
01:30:06.000And right now it's free for doctors to get access to it, to play with it, to see how it works.
01:30:12.000And it's preloaded with all the information.
01:30:17.000Building this system, like my daughter Allison took over all my civilian patients in January last year so I can focus with Andrew and I can focus on just the military.
01:30:28.000It took me about 18 months to train Allison to become proficient.
01:30:33.000Now she's become really, really great.
01:30:36.000And the software package does it in 15 minutes.
01:30:41.000So we can get more doctors on board who don't have to go through the training program that could take six months.
01:30:48.000Our training program is about six months long.
01:31:05.000But there's so much information that the...
01:31:08.000It's ideal that they know so that when they have a case in front of them, they have the flexibility of knowing what to do correctly as opposed to being a knee-jerk response.
01:32:04.000So they brought us there, and the reason why we were there, Joe, is because we had helped a number of SAS guys, and they had phenomenal turnarounds, and they said, we've never seen anything like this before, and that kind of started the dialogue to bring us over.
01:32:17.000So the point being is, there is, like, in the UK, it's run by the National Health Service, and all the major decision makers were in this room, which we were at, and I spoke, Mark gave his long presentation,
01:32:34.000And then kind of the establishment would get up and talk.
01:32:39.000And the line is they had this, their kind of thesis is that all the issues, the psychological issues one has after they have head trauma has nothing to do with their head trauma.
01:32:53.000It has to do with them being psychologically, having a psychological duress in distress.
01:33:00.000And it says, yes, we know they've had a head injury.
01:33:04.000All the issues that you're having, anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress, you know, all the other things, is due to psychological duress.
01:33:11.000And therefore, what he's practicing is pseudoscience.
01:33:15.000And so we were able to present our case.
01:33:41.000And to think like this is the way that science and they're making decisions there on the policy that's going to be influence a lot of people.
01:33:49.000And it was shocking to see how it's done behind the curtain.
01:33:52.000Which is not science-based, because you're talking about...
01:33:54.000Different people have different experiences, or different reactions to similar experiences.
01:34:01.000There's a lot of operators that I know that have seen some horrible shit, and it doesn't fuck with their head.
01:34:06.000The real issue seems to be that some people don't.
01:34:11.000And some people don't have the same reactions psychologically.
01:34:15.000But when you're talking about physical manifestations, when you're talking about real physical reactions that you could track with measuring inflammatory markers in the blood, measuring the decrease in those markers through these therapies and showing the positive impact it has on people's lives,
01:34:32.000the fact that that's disputed could only be ego.
01:34:42.000It's because this thesis was contrary to theirs, which means money would go to us to do a big project over there, which was in the works, and it means money would go away from them.
01:35:33.000So it's better to call them a psychiatric.
01:35:35.000So the minute you know, same thing that happened 2012 here with 410,000 vets who came back or military came back to the United States, 380,000 of them were declared as being PTSD. And then a year later, they found that those that were diagnosed with PTSD really were post TBI. They were traumatic brain injury related.
01:35:54.000And it means that if you look at the cost for doing an assessment for someone who has PTSD, let's say, is less money than someone who has a traumatic brain injury.
01:36:04.000It's more money to put them through traumatic brain injury.
01:36:07.000So like $16,000 a year, I think, is what the Congressional Budget Office said.
01:36:14.000So $16,000 a year for how many different soldiers?
01:36:21.000Yeah, that same $16,000 when Andrew and I were invited to spend three days with number 43 Bush, you know, we shared with them that we can take that $16,000 and use it for three years.
01:36:34.000And hopefully at the end of three years, they'd be able to stop their treatment or diminish their treatment down to very minimal products to help them to maintain their quality of recovery.
01:36:46.000But it's uphill, and it's also because I opened my mouth and said, I don't really believe in PTSD. And the reason why I don't believe in PTSD is because we've now found A chemical called fractalkin, which is part of that immune system, that if you have chronic stress,
01:37:03.000this chemical fractalkin disappears from the brain.
01:37:06.000And when it disappears, the inflammation shoots up.
01:37:10.000Fractalkin has control over a cell, the white blood cell in the brain called a microglia, that stops it from dumping these cytokines.
01:37:18.000But under chronic stress, so you don't need blast.
01:37:21.000You can just be in a household where someone is abusive or in a relationship where something is chronic stress-producing.
01:37:40.000And that inflammation Without contact trauma will cause the exact same scenario, biochemically, someone who's had blast trauma and develops depression.
01:37:50.000Okay, but there's not just a chemical reaction going on in certain people's brains when they have PTSD. There's also memories of horrible things that have happened to them.
01:38:00.000That's what people consider when they think about PTSD. Like, a woman has been abused by a man, she gets near men, she panics, she tightens up.
01:39:09.000In 1997, I was found to have three hormone deficiencies from six head traumas.
01:39:15.000And replenishing it is what led me down this pathway.
01:39:19.000Could it be that the lowering of fractalkin, if you were able to put that back into an optimal state, it's not that they have the ability now to see the past more clearly in order to move past it?
01:40:18.000No, I believe that there is, if you want, a small percentage of people who have this pure PTSD. We'll use that terminology.
01:40:27.000And other people who have the appearance of PTSD, because I think traumatic brain injury is a continuum, or PTSD is a continuum of brain trauma or trauma that has been missed.
01:40:38.000And there are different forms of trauma.
01:40:40.000Finasteride, as we talked about earlier, is a form of non-contact trauma to the brain.
01:40:52.000We have four or five people that had brain surgery, craniotomies for tumors or for cysts in the brain, who developed all the symptomatology of someone with head trauma from an auto accident or being clumped on the head, put them onto the protocol,
01:41:10.000So what you're essentially saying is there's a ton of people out there that are experiencing, whether it's depression or PTSD or all sorts of brain fog and various ailments of the mind and of the mood,
01:41:26.000really a big culprit is just inflammation.
01:43:09.000Germany, Japan, at the Post Finasteride Syndrome Foundation, I think it's pfs.com or org.
01:43:20.000I heard that there was a topical version of it, as I touched my bald head, a topical version that they were coming out with that eliminates the side effects.
01:43:29.000Well, they've had a topical one, and they mix it with retinoic acid, vitamin A, and they mix it with the blood pressure medication, and it helps to generate hair regrowth.
01:43:42.000But the real key is a peptide called thymocin 4-beta.
01:44:57.000And they need $300,000 in order for a compendium to be written about one of the peptides to present to the FDA to get them to change the ban.
01:45:08.000Right now, there is a banned FDA law that's now taking away all our compounded peptides.
01:45:15.000Inclusive that is beta-HCG. Why would they do that?
01:45:35.000So the peptides, they fell into a category because they had to be less than a certain length of peptides in order to be in this non-controlled area.
01:45:59.000But the response, I mean, more and more articles are coming out, research being done outside the United States on BPC-157, IGF-1, LR3, which is long-acting IGF-1.
01:46:11.000IGF-1 is extremely important in upregulating The protein synthesis of our cells, so healing, repair, anti-inflammation in the brain.
01:46:20.000Is there any of those that are good for meniscus?
01:49:27.000Did you call them out on their motivations?
01:49:29.000At the end, I basically said to my colleagues across the aisle, or across the pond, That if they continue on the paradigm that they're working, they're going to have as many suicides as we have in the United States.
01:51:54.000They came back afterwards, the advisors, and worked however they worked it, and got them to agree that we shouldn't do this.
01:52:01.000They didn't buy some from the Americas coming over.
01:52:04.000Isn't that always the case in a movie, where you have these stiff British intellectuals who just don't buy all this new research, and they do whatever they can to stop it?
01:52:41.000And during that time, they would go from cadaver dissection into doing vaginal exams on these pregnant women getting ready to deliver.
01:52:49.000And they had a very high occurrence of what's called crib death, where they'd die.
01:52:54.000Because they didn't understand at that time, they didn't have Koch postulates, that they were transferring infectious agents from the cadaver.
01:54:24.000It's in my book, my first book, Interventional Endocrinology.
01:54:27.000I talk about these cases because they talk about the paradigms and how difficult it is to get one generation of medical caregivers to change what they've been indoctrinated in and fixated on to something more modern that maybe solves a problem that they weren't able to resolve.
01:54:47.000So it would be admitting that what I've been doing all this time has been wrong if I don't wash my hands.
01:55:15.000And then it's also influenced from the pharmaceutical companies.
01:55:18.000If I had a Harvard degree or if I had a Stanford or I had some of the other degrees behind my name instead of just MD, F-U-C-K, what would happen is they might listen to me.
01:55:32.000Or you might have a different worldview.
01:55:39.000One of our admirals, rear admirals that has been with us for about eight years, connected me with another admiral who got me to the Fort Detrick Army Medical Research and Development Group to share with them what we're doing.
01:55:58.000And they were interested in it, but they didn't understand it because they asked me, where's the antidepressants?
01:56:04.000Where are the anti-anxiety medications?
01:56:06.000They're looking for maintaining the status quo.
01:56:09.000The only way we're going to improve this is for people to open up and look at the science and say, huh, I didn't know about this.
01:56:17.000And every week that I send out one of the articles with a little summary of it, I get docs come back and say, you know, this changed the way I'm looking at things.
01:56:28.000Because it's an article that's vetted by peer review on a major, you know, Research.
01:56:34.000You know, I look at psychopathoneurology research, articles that aren't JAMA, or they're not Lancet, or they're not, you know, New England Journal of Medicine.
01:56:45.000And most doctors look at these key journals to get all their information, but all the information is filtered.
01:56:52.000The narrative, the narrative of, okay, let's keep these paradigms going because they serve a purpose for other entities.
01:57:00.000And that's possible because there's so many studies.
01:57:02.000You can include the ones you like that suit your needs and ignore the ones that...
01:57:08.000Throw a monkey wrench in the narrative.
01:57:09.000And I send out articles that refute some of the things that we do, but I also send articles that support it.
01:57:16.000It's like I have up there about testosterone, the great battle of testosterone and cardiovascular disease.
01:57:23.000The article that I shared with you there actually shows how important vitamin testosterone is for protecting the heart, how incredibly important it is.
01:57:34.000That's funny because a lot of times you hear people say that people that supplement with testosterone, you're putting yourself in danger.
01:57:45.000And if you look at the three articles that were the negative articles that made the FDA put a black box warning on testosterone distribution, stating that it can increase cardiovascular risk, the real issue was the group that had the Okay.
01:58:24.000So if you find people who are on testosterone who find that they have a little puffiness, suprapubic fingers or on the legs, it's because they're one of the people that, individuals that retain sodium.
01:58:36.000And what you do is put them on a Lasix or some diuretic three days a week, you know, cycle for a couple of weeks to get rid of the extra fluid.
01:58:46.000Now, what about people that are like bodybuilding, where they're taking ridiculously large doses?
01:58:52.000Yeah, some of them take diazide to help with the fluid, and a lot of the guys don't have the fluid retention.
02:02:19.000So they said, hey, 62% of the people who committed suicide that we're looking at had at least one sign, and almost 50% had more than one.
02:02:29.000And of the people that we looked at, one third were diagnosed with being clinically depressed.
02:02:34.000And so then they looked at and they said, okay, here are the other risk factors that we're finding in these individuals that commit suicide.
02:02:41.000Escalating conflict in relationships, financial issues, legal problems, lack of access to mental health care.
02:02:49.000And then they said nearly all the cases suffered from some form of emotional trauma following their first deployment.
02:02:56.000Interviewees typically saw changes in the soft member after their first deployment.
02:03:01.000So these are the main things that they said, hey, these are constant in all these suicides that we're seeing.
02:03:07.000And then they came out with like a nine step recommendation.
02:03:09.000And the recommendations were the guys need to do active role playing when they get back, they need access to better mental health, need to take away their access to lethal means, things like that.
02:03:21.000And the point I'm making is nowhere in here is it ever identified or addressed that there could be a neuroinflammatory condition That leads to these neuropsychiatric conditions that then leads to suicide.
02:03:36.000And why that's significant in this population is they are selected, assessed, and cultivated to be psychologically and physically resilient in very difficult situations.
02:03:52.000So the question I think we have to ask ourselves is, why is the special operations community, according to the Special Operations Command, committing suicide at a rate that's the highest in the military and 30% higher than everybody else?
02:04:05.000The answer that we know is because they live in an environment that exposes them to neuroinflammatory conditions.
02:04:16.000So that's a very specific thing right there that just blew my mind when I went into the research.
02:04:21.000It absolutely infuriated me to realize, like, nothing is being done any different than it was six years ago, and the problems have even gotten worse.
02:04:30.000So then you look at, okay, like we talked about, 50 million Americans, one out of every five, have a mental health illness.
02:04:38.00050% of children It's absolutely mind-blowing, and we know, I don't think Mark is saying that neuroinflammation is the factor.
02:04:48.000It is a significant contributing factor, and it's not even a main player in the conversation.
02:04:57.000It doesn't matter what you're going to do about it.
02:04:59.000And that's what our work has been focusing around, is showing, hey, there's actually an alternative to this, and we need to have an alternative conversation based in science, based in evidence, based in results.
02:05:12.000And we should be able to discuss that and put these things forward so people can have access to them.
02:05:16.000But when you learn this, it just infuriates you.
02:05:58.000It's time to look at the clinical results and do something else.
02:06:01.000This is what Quiet Explosions is built around.
02:06:04.000This is what Warrior Angels Foundation is built around.
02:06:07.000This is what our life's ambition is worked around, is to put this information out It's not to put anybody's condition down or say it's not real.
02:06:16.000We're saying there's things out there that you didn't know about That could be contributing significantly to the negative state you're in.
02:06:23.000And then you find out, okay, well, what can cause neuroinflammation?
02:06:27.000Poor diet, certain chemicals, certain medications, my environment, lack of sun, poor water.
02:06:34.000All these influences, all these factors.
02:06:37.000So it kind of puts you back in the driver's seat is where you want to be.
02:06:39.000Like, I need to do everything I can to get these things where they need to be.
02:06:44.000First, and then start looking at what needs to happen second.
02:06:46.000That would be my recommendation for anybody who's having issues to look at those things.
02:06:50.000But I just wanted to highlight this to the audience because I think it's such a significant thing that's not even known or talked about.
02:06:56.000And we know very clearly that there is real reasons why these things happen.
02:07:02.000Again, and Mark can validate it better than I can.
02:07:06.000How much resistance are you getting to this?
02:07:11.000Obviously, from the patients you're treating, you're getting this massive positive response.
02:07:17.000Huge, but much bigger than anything anybody's ever done before.
02:07:21.000If you really look at the actual numbers and percentages, it's off the charts.
02:07:29.000Because we're giving people psychological permission to do the same thing, and that's happening over and over again.
02:07:33.000When you have someone able to go to get dual masters at MIT and Harvard who couldn't go to school before that, or one of our guys who just graduated physician assistant school, number one summa cum laude president award, who couldn't do anything before that.
02:07:49.000Or the seal who had multiple sclerosis, which is an inflammatory process.
02:07:55.000In 60 days, he was 50% better because multiple sclerosis is an inflammatory process.
02:08:00.000What is the standard treatment for multiple sclerosis?
02:08:03.000They give them an inflammatory blocker or they give them, what is it called, gamma antibodies.
02:08:11.000They give them antibodies because it's an inflammatory process.
02:08:24.000They're now starting to ask about trauma because the NFL did a study five years ago where they found that if you had one concussion on the field, one concussion on the field, you were 19 times more likely to develop Alzheimer's disease than in the general population at a younger age,
02:11:28.000I don't see it being the key or a key, but I do believe that the combination of what we do with HBOT might be an accelerant, might be together beneficial to the patient.
02:11:42.000We looked at it from the foundation's point of view because we wanted to do what was the most financially, you know, best solution fiscally, as well as the most bang for the buck, which is going to give the individual the best return.
02:11:55.000And it wasn't because we just wanted to do marks.
02:11:59.000We looked at everything, and I've put myself in everything.
02:12:02.000It is the most sound thing you can do because it says, Drop inflammation, replenish what the brain's no longer making.
02:12:09.000What we found is, over the years, that if you don't do those first two steps, all these other modalities, if there's any type of benefit, it's not sustainable.
02:12:18.000So this is step one, and those other ones will magnify, could potentially magnify the effect.
02:12:25.000Now, that's just my observation, but that's how we looked at it as an organization to put our money behind.
02:12:31.000You know, electric stimulation of the brain.
02:12:34.000I did a lecture for the International Society of Neurofeedback and Research.
02:12:41.000We also had a top guy on Quiet Exposions for that as well.
02:12:52.000And the reason why it didn't hold is because the inflammation doesn't allow the neurons to function optimally.
02:12:59.000So, in correcting the biochemistry of the brain, what happened was you were getting a better sustained benefit from the technique, from the technology.
02:13:11.000And this is something that they're starting to look at.
02:13:16.000You know, we're starting to see other entities that are talking about the neuroendocrinology that we started doing back in 2004, starting to see it's a key player.
02:13:25.000The only resistance that I would see coming from this is people that have a vested interest in continuing the path that they're on now because they've got a financial interest in that and also that it just, you're gonna have to train so many people and it's complicated.
02:13:47.000I mean, how many people are aware of this, other than the podcast that we've done, and all the information you've gotten out there, and your documentary, and...
02:13:57.000Because of you, we're in about 34 countries, our knowledge about what we're doing.
02:14:02.000And I send out newsletters to them to let them know that eventually we're coming.
02:14:07.000We hope that the England-UK project would have been the forefront.
02:15:46.000They can go to the website and pick up a lot of information from the tbihelpnow.org.
02:15:51.000And there's information about our TRIPAC, and that's what we're doing right now, trying to get the impediment to starting our programs by having the core product readily available.
02:16:02.000And that's what the studies that we're doing last year in Kentucky and now with the Marines and then with two other organizations, military organizations.
02:16:13.000We're just going to say we're going to prove this out, these statistics, through special operations.
02:16:17.000We're going to do, through our own funded work, we're going to prove that we have a significantly better solution.
02:16:57.000But the mission is, what I've done is I've written a grant application for the Department of Defense.
02:17:07.000And I haven't submitted it yet because I need some help.
02:17:11.000And one of the congressmen in the area that I live in, California, has stated that he'll help me once he was re-elected, and he was re-elected, good Republican, and he'll help me to get the final parts done so I can submit it.
02:17:27.000Well, now that you're in Houston, you also get Congressman Dan Crenshaw.
02:18:19.000Yeah, so the TriPak is available online and it's what we're leading with right now in our non-office base because I can't practice in every state.
02:18:31.000Is there a list of affiliated doctors?
02:19:23.000And hopefully with this program and also I'll be training another group of docs in Miami April 15th on our protocol and then introducing them to the computer program so they can use them both together,
02:19:39.000the didactic academic information and then the program to accelerate it.
02:19:43.000It's very bizarre to me that there's oftentimes these situations where one person and their understanding of something changes everything.
02:19:53.000That you have all these soldiers with TBI. You have all these people with traumatic brain injuries.
02:19:58.000You have all these people with clinical depression, massive inflammation.
02:20:03.000You talked about all the papers that are published that clearly point to all this science.
02:20:11.000But yet, it takes one guy to put it all together and push it forth.
02:20:16.000And there's not a lot of people that are shouting out exactly what you're saying from the mountaintops.
02:20:23.000Even though all that science is there, this is all science-based.
02:20:28.000Yeah, and I think that the movie will help to open up the eyes and minds of people who do see the movie because it's so compelling.
02:20:35.000That's a lot of responsibility for you is what I was getting to.
02:20:38.000It's kind of crazy that you are the guy.
02:21:11.000When we went to England, I brought a syllabus with 50 key articles put in order from A to B to C, so someone who read them would understand the thought processes that I was forced to go through in order to learn and understand the simplicity.
02:21:31.000I mean, I don't mean to deprecate or downplay the science that I've been reading, but the simplicity is It's like you have a car, you put gasoline in it, you put olive oil in it, you put water in it, and you expect you're going to drive.
02:21:48.000What happens to the brain when you have inflammation, it changes the chemistry, and that disrupts all the regulatory systems that we have, the control mechanisms, the communication that says, no, frontal lobe.
02:22:02.000You're going to take the coffee, put it into the cup, put the sugar in there, and put the hot water in it.
02:22:07.000You're not going to pour the hot water down the sink.
02:22:10.000It gives us our function, our ability to sequence things.
02:22:15.000And if you change the chemistry, you lose it.
02:22:17.000That's what happens in Alzheimer's by loss of pregnenolone, by loss of pregnenolone sulfate, progesterone, dopamine.
02:22:37.000Consolidating it into something that's 50 articles, or I can consolidate it, you know, 10 articles up there talk about the inflammation and the precipitation of psychiatric illnesses.
02:22:51.000And it shows in every one of the labeled, and I don't label depression anymore or anxiety or bipolar, but in each one of these labeled conditions, they did testing and showed the inflammatory cytokines in each one.
02:23:05.000Then on the side, they have those autoimmune illnesses, Hashimoto's thyroiditis, Crohn's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis.
02:23:13.000And when you block the inflammatory cytokines, Not only does their underlying autoimmune syndrome disappear, but the depression associated with it disappears.
02:24:47.000No, but it's probably a major contributing factor.
02:24:49.000We've been in dialogue with a guy by the name of Richard Troxell, who was homeless himself, a veteran who was homeless and developed this organization, House of the Homeless Veterans.
02:25:00.000So we've been in dialogue with him for three, four years because this is something, if we can...
02:25:39.000Like, it's easier for them to be on the street and do the drugs.
02:25:41.000And this is what happens in a lot of these homeless encampments that they put together.
02:25:46.000Except in California and San Francisco where they gave them alcohol, weed, and cigarettes.
02:25:51.000Well, San Francisco is the most helpless and Los Angeles is rapidly closing in on what San Francisco is like.
02:26:00.000I mean, San Francisco is just fucking crazy right now.
02:26:04.000And look, I think the greatest thing that happened just recently is we transported the district attorney from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
02:26:11.000Yeah, I heard there are these lawsuits about his prosecution practices and his...
02:28:40.000Yes, there will be certain people who have a small percentage of reaction.
02:28:43.000Do you think these side effects might coincide with all of the various factors you were talking about earlier that would lead to people having long-term COVID problems being affected?
02:29:01.000You are giving their body's ability to produce proteins that will help fight off that virus, but you still have this underlying problem of inflammation.
02:29:10.000So do you think that maybe this mRNA vaccine along with Having a protocol to reduce inflammation in the body, reduce these inflammatory markers in the blood, that this should be a dual point strategy.
02:29:28.000So what we're telling our patient population who have elected to go and get the COVID vaccine when it's available, They're already on the Brain Care 2, which has the anti-inflammatory products that help drop the production of cytokines to try and help mitigate some of the inflammation that is intrinsic to getting any vaccine.
02:29:50.000So if someone's going to get the vaccine without taking Brain Care 2, what are the issues that they need to...
02:31:39.000I think about why people are getting, with the first shot, symptoms similar to the people who get both shots is because they're not testing whether or not you've been exposed to coronavirus before.
02:31:51.000Remember, H1N1 is corona, SARS is corona.
02:31:54.000Remember that in 2009 or 11, they added H1N1. To our annual influenza vaccine, which is called a quaternary, four components in it.
02:32:10.000And a lot of people didn't even know that.
02:32:12.000So we're already being exposed to the coronavirus in a vaccine.
02:32:17.000So I already have that potential for an animistic response, the memory response.
02:33:20.000Because we generally, at least the uninitiated like myself, look at something like the flu virus and a common cold rhinovirus or coronavirus.
02:33:31.000Yeah, they're all different, you know, like influenza A and B. It's different than rhinovirus or enterovirus, different than H1N1. But H1N1, SARS virus, and COVID-19 are in the same place.
02:33:47.000So it may be that people that have gotten a recent flu shot and then get the COVID-19 shot, they react.
02:34:11.000So it would mean going in, it's a $35 test, I believe, to get your finger prick and find out whether or not you already have the antibodies against coronavirus.
02:34:21.000But they're trying to say that COVID-19 is so unique, but in the coronavirus grouping, they all have the spike protein.
02:36:41.000In the nucleus of the cell is the DNA. The DNA is a double-stranded string of nucleotides, which are the codes.
02:36:49.000Those codes are transcribed using RNA polymerase into RNA. That RNA then goes out of the nucleus, gets a 5' cap, and gets a 3' poly-A tail and it's ready for ribosomes to come on to read that code and that code is then translated into the code of amino acids which amino acid after amino acid will turn into a polypeptide which turns into a protein And proteins are how
02:37:47.000It is made out of RNA. And that RNA just happens to have a 5' head and a poly-A tail.
02:37:54.000So when it pops into the cytosol, It's going to be read by those same ribosomes that can't tell the difference.
02:38:00.000Except this time, instead of making a protein that's useful to your cell, this RNA that comes out of the virus is going to make something called a RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.
02:38:12.000And it's this enzyme right here that is going to read from the 3'm to the 5'm of the viral RNA and replicate it.
02:38:23.000So this RNA-dependent RNA polymerase makes more viral genomes.
02:38:29.000It's also known as replicase for that reason.
02:38:32.000And there's something that has been shown to inhibit this replicase, and that is zinc.
02:38:41.000Zinc will shut down RNA-dependent RNA polymerase or replicase.
02:38:58.000And ions cannot get through the cellular membrane unless there's a transporter that allows it to come in.
02:39:07.000In fact, the way that they tested this in the paper is with an ionophore, which allows the zinc to come into the cell so they could see that the activity of this RNA-dependent RNA polymerase was reduced.
02:39:24.000Zinc inhibits coronavirus RNA polymerase activity in vitro, and zinc ionophores block the replication of these viruses in cell culture.
02:39:37.000When they looked at the SARS-CoV virus, that was the one that was seen back in 2002, as the zinc concentration inside the cell went up, you can see that the byproduct of the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase went down,
02:39:52.000down, down, clearly demonstrating that zinc intracellularly is going to block this very important enzyme of the virus.
02:40:03.000We've got zinc that's going to block it.
02:40:06.000But how are we going to get zinc inside the cell?
02:40:08.000It's one thing to say that you're going to take zinc supplements.
02:40:12.000But how do those zinc supplements, first of all, get absorbed into your body, into the blood, into the extracellular space?
02:40:19.000And then finally, how are you going to get that zinc from the extracellular space into the intracellular space in the cytosol where it needs to work on these infected cells and these viral proteins?
02:40:30.000Well, that's another thing altogether.
02:40:33.000What you need is some sort of ionophore or some sort of gated mechanism to open and to allow that zinc to come into the cell, increasing the concentration of zinc into the cell so it can block RDRP. Well,
02:40:49.000enter this paper that was pointed out by some of you commenting, chloroquine is a zinc ionophore.
02:40:56.000This paper was published back in 2014, and the point of this paper was something completely different.
02:41:03.000They weren't thinking about coronavirus.
02:41:05.000They probably didn't even know, perhaps, that zinc blocked RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.
02:41:11.000What they were looking at here is that zinc may help some of these cancer cells basically eat themselves in the lysosomes, which are sort of the trash compactors of the cell, and that by giving chloroquine, you could have these cancer cells disappear.
02:41:26.000Well, in doing that research, they found out something that's very interesting to us because of that finding.
02:41:32.000And this research came out of the University of Oklahoma and some institutions in China.
02:41:44.000Here's the structure of that compound.
02:41:46.000And this chloroquine is a medication that has been around for decades that is used to treat malaria.
02:41:54.000It's not under patent and it's pretty dirt cheap and widely available.
02:41:58.000However, you do need a prescription to use this and it doesn't come without side effects.
02:42:04.000What they show is that they were able to detect intracellular zinc by checking its fluorescence.
02:42:12.000Here on the x-axis, we have increasing concentrations of chloroquine, and the white bars represents those cells that were bathed in only 5 micromolar solution of zinc chloride, and the black was in 10 times that amount at 50 micromolars concentration of zinc chloride.
02:42:32.000And what you can see here is that in the normal situation, if you're able to get some zinc into the cells, this is the amount of zinc you will see inside the cells.
02:42:42.000So this is the amount of concentration outside the cell.
02:42:45.000This is the amount of zinc you see inside the cell.
02:42:48.000And let's just look at this same concentration, 5 micromolar.
02:42:52.000When you bathe the cells in chloroquine, you can see how much this intracellular zinc concentration goes up.
02:43:01.000In fact, if you look at the amount of zinc inside the cell, by just adding a small amount of chloroquine here at 10 micromolar, we would get more zinc inside the cell than if we increase the concentration of zinc outside the cell tenfold.
02:43:16.000That's how powerfully chloroquine will increase intracellular zinc concentration.
02:44:14.000One-third of the world population are zinc deficient.
02:44:19.000In our panel, we do intracellular zinc levels because it's important.
02:44:24.000Anti-cancer, anti-viral, anti-dementia, anti-Alzheimer's helps the pancreas produce insulin, helps testicles produce sperm and testosterone.
02:46:31.000And in something like ZMA, putting a little bit of quercetin in it or turmeric for all the benefits that are on turmeric would help their product in absorption.
02:46:40.000So should someone take, whether it's turmeric or quercetin or whatever these things, you take them concurrently?
02:47:11.000I understand a lot more of this zinc stuff and the quercetin and just so many different things.
02:47:17.000And I'm so happy that the message is getting out there, that there is hope, that there is for all these veterans, all these people suffering from TBIs and a host of other issues, that there is some hope.