The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1648 - Reggie Watts

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:00:14.000 You're just staring at it.

00:00:15.000 Rolling stones.

00:00:15.000 Shooting stars.

00:00:16.000 Of course.

00:00:16.000 Black holes.

00:00:17.000 Imagine what a black hole sounds like.

00:00:18.000 What do you think it sounds like?

00:00:19.000 I think, didn't someone, they simulated it or something?

00:00:23.000 Some physicists simulated it or something?

00:00:25.000 Really?

00:00:26.000 Yeah, it's like, it does make a sound.

00:00:28.000 That's the best part of Interstellar.

00:00:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:30.000 I mean, my favorite part of it.

00:00:31.000 Oh, man. 0.98

00:00:32.000 The Chinese theater, that was so loud and fucking awesome. 0.97

00:00:34.000 Oh, you want to see it there? 0.96

00:00:36.000 I want to see it again there so bad.

00:00:38.000 IMAX is the place to see it, right?

00:00:39.000 It was the IMAX theater he made it at.

00:00:41.000 Like, he was testing it there to make sure it was two-par, and it was...

00:00:45.000 That's a bold movie, man.

00:00:47.000 Very bold movie.

00:00:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:49.000 Super sick, too.

00:00:50.000 Just think of all the elements that people have to follow along, especially the ending.

00:00:55.000 Spoiler alert.

00:00:56.000 Oh, yeah, totally.

00:00:56.000 But the end when he's, like, looking at himself through...

00:00:59.000 Like, what is happening there?

00:01:01.000 Like, you gotta, like...

00:01:02.000 If you're...

00:01:02.000 You know, you take a kid there.

00:01:04.000 He's like, Dad, what is going on here?

00:01:06.000 He's like, I don't know, man.

00:01:09.000 We're in the same spot.

00:01:10.000 Can't really explain it, son.

00:01:11.000 We'll talk about it later.

00:01:13.000 We'll get it on DVD. Does it have the sound of it?

00:01:17.000 That robot was so dope. 0.99

00:01:21.000 Translating as great movie sound, but...

00:01:26.000 It's just a rocket, also, is what it sounds like.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, this isn't working.

00:01:31.000 Yeah, it's fine.

00:01:32.000 I would imagine, without the rocket, it sounds like stars getting smushed.

00:01:36.000 Yeah, it's just like...

00:01:37.000 I think it was like they were saying it was like a...

00:01:39.000 You know, that type of a thing.

00:01:41.000 Just the fact that that's a real thing, that in the center of every galaxy is this giant mass that's eating stars.

00:01:48.000 Star eaters.

00:01:49.000 Just...

00:01:49.000 I know.

00:01:50.000 Just sucking them into who knows what on the other end. 0.97

00:01:53.000 You know, it's great.

00:01:55.000 I love reading about...

00:01:56.000 I mean, I haven't read about black holes in a really long time since, I think, a Michio Kaku book that I had, but it was a while, a while ago.

00:02:02.000 But...

00:02:03.000 I mean, it's so fascinating, that weird, like, you know that point, it's like the event horizon?

00:02:08.000 It's like, theoretically, it wouldn't work like this, but theoretically, there's just like a membrane, and you're just close, close, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine.

00:02:15.000 You just get sucked in and just stretched and broken, just crushed to bits.

00:02:21.000 And then, I guess, just reconstituted as pure energy on the other side?

00:02:24.000 Because it definitely doesn't get destroyed, it gets redistributed.

00:02:28.000 They're redistributors.

00:02:29.000 We're just so concerned about the finite life that we live.

00:02:33.000 Like we're so concerned of preserving this very fragile existence that the idea of getting reconstituted into pure energy in another dimension is like horrific.

00:02:43.000 But that's why we're here.

00:02:45.000 We're here, right?

00:02:46.000 We're here because a star exploded.

00:02:49.000 Yeah.

00:02:49.000 We're made of stars.

00:02:50.000 What's that old song?

00:02:51.000 We are stardust.

00:02:52.000 We are golden.

00:02:57.000 Is that from the 60s?

00:03:03.000 It's like the strawberry alarm clock.

00:03:05.000 Joni Mitchell did a version of it, but I don't think she was the original.

00:03:10.000 Maybe she was the original.

00:03:12.000 Maybe she wrote it.

00:03:13.000 I don't know.

00:03:14.000 Joni Mitchell, artist.

00:03:16.000 Message to love.

00:03:18.000 Crosby.

00:03:18.000 When you were singing it, the way you were singing it, that's Crosby.

00:03:23.000 Can we give us a little bit before we get in trouble?

00:03:25.000 Just give me a little taste.

00:03:26.000 Give me a little taste.

00:03:27.000 Give us 2.6 seconds.

00:03:28.000 Give me a little taste of like 1970s acid.

00:03:32.000 1970s acid and marijuana grown in that Mendocino range with that Hulu series.

00:03:42.000 The emergence.

00:03:43.000 Sasquatch was made.

00:03:44.000 Yeah.

00:03:44.000 There it is.

00:03:45.000 I can't hear it.

00:03:49.000 I haven't heard this.

00:03:56.000 You never heard this?

00:03:57.000 No.

00:03:58.000 Oh my goodness.

00:03:59.000 This is classic.

00:04:00.000 I gotta get into that.

00:04:06.000 Oh, Yaskar. 0.61

00:04:08.000 Keep it going. 1.00

00:04:09.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:04:09.000 If we get pulled, we get pulled. 1.00

00:04:12.000 Let's test Spotify's algorithms out.

00:04:15.000 It's like the Borg, man.

00:04:32.000 That's gorgeous. 0.98

00:04:33.000 That's pretty fucking good, man. 0.98

00:04:34.000 Especially when you're high. 0.99

00:04:35.000 There's something about being high.

00:04:37.000 That old music just resonates, man.

00:04:41.000 There's some like Allman Brothers songs that are different when you're high.

00:04:46.000 You listen to them when you're high.

00:04:47.000 Like Midnight Rider...

00:04:49.000 I don't know if I know that one.

00:04:50.000 You don't know Midnight Rider?

00:04:52.000 I'm terrible.

00:04:52.000 I don't know.

00:04:52.000 How dare you?

00:04:53.000 I apologize.

00:04:54.000 I'll see you.

00:04:54.000 You're a musician, Reggie.

00:04:56.000 You're a musician.

00:04:57.000 I know.

00:04:57.000 I'm supposed to know all music.

00:04:59.000 This is outrageous.

00:05:00.000 I'm sorry.

00:05:01.000 Your mind is filled with electronica.

00:05:04.000 I know.

00:05:05.000 I know.

00:05:05.000 My zone is, like, so very specific and very surprising to people, but I love it.

00:05:10.000 Yeah, that's all that matters, man.

00:05:12.000 Of course, of course.

00:05:13.000 But, I mean, I love, you know, my philosophy on music, when they're like, what kind of music do you listen to?

00:05:17.000 I'm like, anything that's good.

00:05:19.000 That's always my answer.

00:05:20.000 It could be anything.

00:05:21.000 Anything.

00:05:22.000 Anything is good.

00:05:23.000 Anything is good.

00:05:24.000 I mean, it's all subjective, but...

00:05:25.000 What were you going to tell me?

00:05:26.000 I stopped you.

00:05:28.000 I said, I'll save it for the podcast.

00:05:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

00:05:30.000 Yeah, my friend Kirsten Joy Weiss, she's a trick shooter. 1.00

00:05:35.000 Like a pistol shooter?

00:05:37.000 Yeah, a pistol rifle.

00:05:38.000 And she lives in Cody, Wyoming, and she is amazing.

00:05:43.000 Just a really cool...

00:05:46.000 Independent thinker like she loves sci-fi, but she sent me these I'll see if I can send you a video you can see she did like this I guess a shot that hasn't there she is look at this oh Yeah She's leaning back for people that are not listening.

00:06:02.000 She's got her shins down on the ground and leaning back behind them, and she's shooting 30 yards behind her.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 Backwards.

00:06:11.000 Gun Pilates.

00:06:12.000 She calls it Gun Pilates.

00:06:13.000 Was that this one?

00:06:14.000 Was that the long-range trick shot, as that was called?

00:06:20.000 This says Gunply's Trick Shot.

00:06:22.000 Okay, yeah.

00:06:23.000 There's a whole market for hot girls with guns. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Do you know that?

00:06:27.000 Like, the hot girl gun world?

00:06:30.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:06:31.000 But you know what?

00:06:31.000 The interesting thing that's different about her, she's almost like, she's just a badass shooter that happens to be an attractive woman.

00:06:40.000 Right.

00:06:41.000 But she's like, she's the real deal.

00:06:44.000 She was going to be on, she trained in the Olympics, on the Olympic team, and And I like her videos because she talks about, I mean, it's called The Joy of Shooting, obviously, but, I mean, it's a play on her name, but she really does mean it.

00:06:58.000 She's just talking about, like, hey, this is a cool exercise and kind of like a meditative exercise, like shooting and target practice is meditative.

00:07:06.000 And the cool thing about her is she does everything herself.

00:07:09.000 Every video that you see is just her with a camera and a tripod and all her editing.

00:07:13.000 She's super DIY. That's what I like about her.

00:07:15.000 That's cool. 0.99

00:07:15.000 She's sick. 0.99

00:07:16.000 And she's, like, very philosophical.

00:07:18.000 Very cool.

00:07:19.000 What are you saying, Jamie?

00:07:20.000 The video's playing on his phone.

00:07:21.000 Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:07:22.000 Sheesh.

00:07:23.000 I am going to stop that right now.

00:07:25.000 Sorry, Karistan, wherever you are. 1.00

00:07:27.000 She's badass. 1.00

00:07:28.000 It is true, though, that shooting is very meditative, right?

00:07:32.000 Oh, completely.

00:07:33.000 Are you kidding?

00:07:34.000 I mean, it's like any...

00:07:35.000 It's like you're shooting a project...

00:07:38.000 Whether you're shooting or it's a bow and arrow or it's a crossbow or it's a sling or you're throwing a ball.

00:07:42.000 Even darts.

00:07:43.000 Oh, man.

00:07:43.000 Darts especially.

00:07:45.000 Darts especially.

00:07:46.000 Just to try to get that arc right.

00:07:47.000 And you're like...

00:07:49.000 Yeah, you're like thinking, not thinking, muscle memory, learning.

00:07:52.000 Also like the weirdness of like letting that thing go.

00:07:55.000 Like you don't want to let it, you don't want to drop your hand down.

00:07:58.000 You got to like release it at the exact right time.

00:08:02.000 Yes, yes.

00:08:03.000 I know it's, I went axe throwing in Great Falls, Montana recently.

00:08:08.000 That sounds like a Great Falls, Montana activity.

00:08:10.000 Are you kidding?

00:08:11.000 It's so Great Falls.

00:08:11.000 I went with my friend Kelly.

00:08:13.000 He's awesome.

00:08:14.000 His family's cool.

00:08:14.000 I went with my mom.

00:08:15.000 I brought my mom.

00:08:16.000 Your mom was axe throwing? 1.00

00:08:17.000 No.

00:08:18.000 My mom was like 83, just like sitting in a chair drinking wine.

00:08:21.000 And we're just like three feet away from people throwing axes at walls.

00:08:25.000 That's hilarious.

00:08:26.000 This is so awesome.

00:08:27.000 Sipping wine while people hurl blades.

00:08:29.000 Yes.

00:08:30.000 That's very funny. 0.65

00:08:31.000 My friend Kelly, he's so ridiculously good at it. 1.00

00:08:33.000 It was stupid. 1.00

00:08:35.000 He'd like not look. 1.00

00:08:37.000 He'd turn around and throw the axe behind his back and it would land on the target. 0.80

00:08:40.000 He would take two axes and throw them simultaneously.

00:08:43.000 And he's just a natural at it.

00:08:46.000 It's very strange.

00:08:47.000 He doesn't practice?

00:08:48.000 I mean, he's been there a few times, but he was already a natural the first time he went.

00:08:53.000 So the people who work there are just like, hey, are you on a league?

00:08:56.000 You know, that type of thing.

00:08:56.000 He's like, nah, just do it for fun.

00:08:58.000 You know, it's like a movie, right?

00:09:00.000 About axe throwing.

00:09:01.000 Naturals are weird.

00:09:02.000 Like a natural in anything.

00:09:04.000 It's a strange thing when you see someone who's just really good at something.

00:09:07.000 Right away.

00:09:08.000 It just makes sense.

00:09:09.000 You know, it's like they just have this ability to like, oh yeah, like this.

00:09:12.000 And you're like, wait, but I've been training for five years.

00:09:15.000 They just see it and they just have it.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, but it's annoying.

00:09:18.000 It is annoying.

00:09:19.000 If you're a person who's been like studying your whole life and some guy comes around, oh, you mean like this?

00:09:23.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 And then you've got problems.

00:09:30.000 Bodies are not fair. 1.00

00:09:32.000 They're not fair.

00:09:33.000 Some people's bodies just work way better.

00:09:35.000 Oh, man.

00:09:36.000 I mean, for me, I always had a good ear.

00:09:38.000 So if I heard an accent, if I heard Olivia Newton-John on the radio or whatever, I could mimic her timbre and the texture really, really easily.

00:09:50.000 And so for me, music...

00:09:52.000 I mean, obviously, the theory is the theory, and that's something you have to learn, but I had an ear.

00:09:57.000 So even if I didn't learn theory, but I kept playing with musicians, I would have been fine, because I would have figured it out.

00:10:03.000 When did you start learning music?

00:10:04.000 Age five.

00:10:06.000 Wow.

00:10:07.000 That's a nice advantage.

00:10:08.000 So you grew up with a musical mind.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:12.000 I mean, I love, you know, my parents, you know, we were in Europe for a while because of the military, Air Force, and we moved around, and so I was born in Stuttgart, and then we moved to, I think, like, Italy, ended up in Spain for two years, the final two years, till age four, then we moved to Great Falls,

00:10:27.000 Montana, to Malmstrom Air Force Base.

00:10:29.000 But, uh, in that time, you know, I just love, my parents love jazz, Ray Charles, you know, my mom listened to French, a lot of French or European folk music, like Anna Muscari and Edith Piaf and things like that.

00:10:43.000 So I was hearing that all the time and I saw Ray Charles and I loved the way he moved and he had the sunglasses and playing piano.

00:10:50.000 And so I used to sit at the edge of the table and pretend like I was Ray Charles.

00:10:54.000 And they were like, oh, let's get him a toy piano.

00:10:56.000 And they did.

00:10:57.000 And then my mom was like, do you want to have lessons?

00:11:00.000 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:01.000 So I was like almost six, five, and I started studying classical piano, like private lessons.

00:11:07.000 It was awesome.

00:11:07.000 Is there anyone that's learned piano without lessons?

00:11:10.000 Because I know people have learned guitar without lessons.

00:11:13.000 Oh yeah, 100%.

00:11:14.000 Yeah?

00:11:15.000 Yeah, it's just by ear.

00:11:16.000 The piano actually is an easier instrument to learn by ear because it's a grid.

00:11:20.000 It's just a grid.

00:11:21.000 It's not like when you have a stringed instrument where you have a fretless board like a cello or a violin or something like that, right?

00:11:28.000 It's like there's no fret, there's no marking, so you have to really know where to put your finger, and you have to know the technique of bowing.

00:11:34.000 There's a lot of complicated stuff.

00:11:35.000 A piano, it's like, uh, you know, note, right?

00:11:39.000 And then you start to notice, oh, it's a pattern.

00:11:41.000 It keeps repeating, but it just goes higher and higher or lower and lower.

00:11:45.000 That's interesting.

00:11:45.000 Does it feel more limited because it's just you're pressing buttons rather than the creativity that's involved in a musical instrument that has chords that you can manipulate?

00:11:56.000 No, I would say that...

00:11:59.000 I think what's great about a piano is that, yes, you have like the basic, these are chords and things like that, but you have dynamics.

00:12:06.000 Then you have note combinations.

00:12:08.000 And then if you really want to get crazy, like John Cage or whatever, prepared pianos where they're putting screws in the string board, you know, or in the, I forget what it's called, but the board where the strings are.

00:12:16.000 What do you mean?

00:12:17.000 The soundboard, I guess.

00:12:19.000 So they would put a screw next to a string so that when you hit a note, it would just vibrate against the metal.

00:12:27.000 And they would have certain keys prepared, so they call it prepared piano.

00:12:31.000 So John Cage wrote a bunch of prepared piano pieces where they'd modify the soundboard of the piano.

00:12:38.000 And then he would write music for it and he would play the music and certain notes would have metallic sounds and sometimes notes wouldn't be there.

00:12:46.000 A bunch of stuff.

00:12:47.000 So the piano is like, it's a good basic instrument.

00:12:51.000 It's a good foundation.

00:12:53.000 Now, when digital keyboards came out, a lot of people resisted the sound of digital keyboards.

00:12:58.000 I remember when Jump, when Eddie Van Halen- Oh, yeah.

00:13:01.000 Huge deal, right?

00:13:02.000 Revolt.

00:13:02.000 People were very upset.

00:13:04.000 Hugely upset. 0.99

00:13:05.000 Like, what the fuck is this? 1.00

00:13:07.000 You guys were running with the devil. 1.00

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:08.000 How did you get to this?

00:13:10.000 I know.

00:13:11.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 Still a good song, man.

00:13:13.000 Oh, it's an amazing song, but that's how things go, right?

00:13:15.000 It's like someone comes up...

00:13:16.000 I mean, you know, essentially synthesizers, you know, they came from, what, like the 50s or whatever, like oscillators, things that made...

00:13:23.000 All it is is just a sound going...

00:13:25.000 And then you have another sound which collides with it, which creates texture, right?

00:13:29.000 Because they're battling each other.

00:13:30.000 And you change the wavelength and frequency, then multiply that and put it onto a keyboard.

00:13:34.000 Now you've got a synthesizer, right?

00:13:37.000 But then Buchla, back in the day, had his idea of synthesis was just like...

00:13:41.000 Like a strip of like random sounds you could manipulate, just move up and down.

00:13:47.000 And so there was a kind of this battle between Buchla's philosophy, which was a West Coast philosophy, and Moog's philosophy, which was an East Coast philosophy.

00:13:54.000 But Moog was like, we're going to make the interface a really easy to understand one, which is the keyboard, the piano keyboard.

00:14:00.000 What I was going to get to is like, did the current piano keyboards, like the current electrical keyboards, have they gotten to the place where they can actually recreate the sound of a great piano?

00:14:14.000 Really close.

00:14:15.000 Really, really close.

00:14:16.000 Could you tell the difference?

00:14:19.000 It's hard because it depends on the context.

00:14:21.000 If you're listening to it just naked, and then you're running through tests like the lowest note, a note in the middle of the keyboard, and then the highest note, I think someone who plays piano, they might be able to tell, but now the sampling is so crazy.

00:14:35.000 They'll sample one note so many times, and then they duplicate that all the way down the length of the keyboard, and when you hear You can't really hear the difference, especially in a song.

00:14:46.000 It just sounds like a real piano.

00:14:48.000 Or it sounds like a real Rhodes.

00:14:50.000 Like Nord makes the Nord Electro, which is what I usually use.

00:14:55.000 It emulates electric pianos, Wurlitzers, and also pianos.

00:14:59.000 And I guess organs as well.

00:15:02.000 But it sounds so good.

00:15:05.000 It almost sounds sometimes better.

00:15:08.000 Really?

00:15:08.000 Sometimes.

00:15:09.000 Just because it's like – imagine the optimal version of a Rhodes like Mark II or something like that or whatever, like a very popular Rhodes – That's a type of piano?

00:15:18.000 Yeah, so a Rhodes electric piano.

00:15:19.000 It's what you heard the most in the 70s.

00:15:22.000 That and Wurlitzer.

00:15:23.000 Wurlitzer sounds more plucky.

00:15:25.000 You've heard it like...

00:15:26.000 That's a Wurlitzer.

00:15:34.000 So you've got that.

00:15:35.000 And then you've got Rhodes, which is more like Fly Like an Eagle.

00:15:41.000 All that stuff from the high stuff.

00:15:44.000 And the Rhodes is a little bit more versatile.

00:15:48.000 A Wurlitzer is very...

00:15:49.000 Oh, that's a Wurlitzer.

00:15:50.000 But, you know, all these pianos, it's like, imagine them at their peak condition.

00:15:55.000 Because they're mechanical, right?

00:15:56.000 You have to send them to a tech to tune them up.

00:15:59.000 Maybe the pickups aren't working right.

00:16:01.000 Or maybe there's an element that's not functioning properly.

00:16:05.000 So imagine the most optimal version of that instrument in just that stays constant.

00:16:10.000 And that's kind of like what a Nord is.

00:16:12.000 And I know there'll be people out there going like, there's a difference.

00:16:16.000 But in general, you know, keyboard players I know, they're very comfortable playing.

00:16:20.000 Like my friend who was a Rhodes Hammond B3 clavinet dude.

00:16:24.000 He loved the clavinet.

00:16:25.000 And the clavinet kind of sounds like a...

00:16:27.000 Okay.

00:16:34.000 Not the vocal part, but there's a keyboard, and that is the Clavinet with a wah-wah pedal, which was very, very popular.

00:16:44.000 But he played all of it.

00:16:45.000 Rhodes, Clavinet, Hammond V3. And it was insane to watch him drag this to all the gigs.

00:16:52.000 He dragged a full Hammond B3, and we're carrying it like a sarcophagus out of this van, and then into the gig, plus the cabinet, which is the Leslie, the rotating speaker.

00:17:03.000 So it was huge.

00:17:04.000 I mean, it was huge.

00:17:05.000 And then he would put his clavinet on top of that, and he had his Rhodes.

00:17:07.000 And so every gig, we had all those things. 1.00

00:17:09.000 But then the Nord came out, and he was like, ah, fuck it. 0.99

00:17:12.000 And he just started playing the Nord, because the Nord sounded so good. 0.99

00:17:15.000 And that was in the early days, and now it's insane.

00:17:16.000 And then it had everything.

00:17:18.000 Well, kind of.

00:17:20.000 Yes, it does.

00:17:20.000 But you would still probably want to separate.

00:17:22.000 You'd get two.

00:17:23.000 You'd get one that's like the stage, which is for like piano sounds.

00:17:27.000 And then there's one that's kind of like more oriented to Rhodes.

00:17:30.000 And then you have an HP series, which is semi-weighted.

00:17:33.000 So it feels more like a Rhodes.

00:17:35.000 So it feels it's got a mechanical weighting as opposed to synthesizers, which feels like you're pressing a nothing.

00:17:41.000 Like it's just super you could like solo all over that thing with no resistance.

00:17:44.000 But The HP series is simulated, and then you got the Hammond version, which has like stacks and drawbars on it.

00:17:51.000 So it really goes, and then you can hook that into an actual Leslie cabinet.

00:17:56.000 So they make smaller Leslie cabinets.

00:17:58.000 So you have a small Leslie cabinet, a Nord organ simulator, and you've got a Hammond B3. So what these simulators do, are they literally recording the sound of an actual piano?

00:18:08.000 Mm-hmm.

00:18:09.000 So it's not a sound that the thing makes.

00:18:12.000 No.

00:18:12.000 You're just pressing a play.

00:18:14.000 Yes.

00:18:14.000 As far as I understand it, yeah, essentially they're doing oversampling or they're sampling multiple, multiple times the instrument.

00:18:22.000 Think of it as a super high-res scan.

00:18:25.000 And then it's all in like how it's projected through to the amplifier.

00:18:31.000 That's great.

00:18:31.000 To make sure that the sound actually resembles a piano.

00:18:35.000 Or recreates a piano.

00:18:36.000 Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with the interface.

00:18:41.000 Like how do the keys react?

00:18:43.000 Is it similar to how the instrument reacts?

00:18:46.000 And then they can build in all kinds of algorithms for that.

00:18:48.000 So how hard you're hitting it.

00:18:49.000 Or if you hit it really hard, does it have that bite?

00:18:52.000 Like a Rhodes, if you hit it softly, it's just like ding!

00:18:55.000 But then if you hit it really hard, it goes...

00:18:57.000 Kind of.

00:19:00.000 Terrible, sorry.

00:19:00.000 There's manipulation, mechanical manipulation.

00:19:03.000 Yes.

00:19:04.000 Just like a real instrument.

00:19:05.000 Yeah, and they put that in there.

00:19:07.000 And then, like, you know, I remember getting my first synth was a Roland W30, which was technically the first workstation, which was a synthesizer that had a sampler built into it.

00:19:19.000 You could write on it.

00:19:21.000 It had a 16-track sequencer and was just like a regular synthesizer, but it had aftertouch.

00:19:28.000 So if you press a sound and then you pressed a little harder, it would actually make another sound.

00:19:35.000 And you could program it any way you wanted, right?

00:19:37.000 So it can recreate pretty much any sound that you would in a regular musical instrument.

00:19:42.000 But is real important?

00:19:45.000 Is real...

00:19:46.000 Does it matter?

00:19:48.000 Because if you know that what you're doing is pressing play on this thing and it's recreating the sound of a piano rather than actually that little...

00:19:57.000 Felt-covered hammer hitting the string and creating that sound.

00:20:02.000 Is that important that that actually takes place?

00:20:04.000 Because there's implications to this kind of simulation of stuff that would apply to a lot of other things that make people uncomfortable, like love.

00:20:14.000 Like artificial love.

00:20:16.000 Some robot lady that is, what are we doing? 1.00

00:20:19.000 We've recorded all the sounds your lover could make.

00:20:22.000 You know?

00:20:23.000 And if you spank her, like, maybe she'll like it, maybe she won't. 1.00

00:20:27.000 You're like, what?

00:20:28.000 What are we doing?

00:20:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:30.000 But I mean, there's implications here, right?

00:20:34.000 Like, we could get to artificial life, and you could have a friend that's not really a friend, who, like, sometimes he flakes on you. 0.95

00:20:41.000 But it's like, what is this fucking weird program this guy's running? 0.94

00:20:44.000 What's a human? 0.99

00:20:45.000 I know.

00:20:46.000 I mean, you know, taking it to that level.

00:20:48.000 I mean, well, you know, instrument-wise, there's people that argue, like, I have to have my...

00:20:51.000 I mean, like, Regina Spector's not going to show up at a gig playing... 0.99

00:20:55.000 She's not going to play, like, an electronic version of a piano.

00:20:58.000 She's not going to play an electronic piano. 0.99

00:21:00.000 She's going to play a real piano, because...

00:21:03.000 Tori Amos.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, Tori Amos.

00:21:04.000 They have to have their Bosendorfers or their Steinways or whatever.

00:21:08.000 They need that instrument because that's how they create.

00:21:11.000 They need the weight of it.

00:21:12.000 Because when you're behind a piano, the weight of it and seeing the lid up, if that's how you have your playing style.

00:21:18.000 But if the lid's up and you can see the length of it.

00:21:20.000 Is it a sound issue with the lid up or down?

00:21:22.000 Yes, it is, yeah.

00:21:23.000 What is the difference?

00:21:24.000 They're made to project.

00:21:25.000 So that's why you'll see grand pianos at an angle facing, like if you went to a classical performance or went to a theater, you would see the piano and then the lid up.

00:21:36.000 It projects the sound outward to the audience.

00:21:38.000 And then I guess there's a microphone that's near the piano that picks it up, and you have to figure out where to put the microphone?

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:43.000 They'll do that, and sometimes they'll do contact mics as well.

00:21:46.000 Oh, like a guitar.

00:21:47.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:48.000 So it plugs right in.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, they'll put it on the soundboard.

00:21:51.000 So sometimes it'll be on the soundboard or a hybrid system, and so they can mix in between for amplification.

00:21:57.000 But in traditional settings in a medium-sized room, they would just let the piano project into the room naturally.

00:22:03.000 There's a thing that we're hitting on here, though, right?

00:22:07.000 With things being real or not real.

00:22:10.000 And in musical instruments, that seems like a very, an applicable analogy.

00:22:17.000 Like there's a thing that happens all the time now with musical instruments where you can actually, I mean, you can recreate drums without any drums, right?

00:22:26.000 Right.

00:22:26.000 Oh, easily.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:28.000 Well, I mean, synthesizers were mimicking all kinds of instruments for a long time.

00:22:32.000 Not very well, but, you know, early drum machines.

00:22:36.000 Basically, it's all the same principle.

00:22:38.000 It's a sound wave that's being generated, and then collisions with a secondary oscillator, or sometimes even more, And then you're changing properties of each of those and you can change like how long it plays or if you press it once, does it keep holding if you keep holding it?

00:22:52.000 Or do you press it and keep holding it and it stops?

00:22:54.000 You know, there's all these parameters like a three-dimensional equation.

00:22:58.000 You can shape things.

00:22:59.000 So that's why you got like...

00:23:02.000 That's all synthesizer.

00:23:03.000 It's synthesized.

00:23:04.000 So like early organs, when organs were popular back in the day in the 70s or whatever, and you had your sheet music and your organ, and it had the drum machine that Shuggy Otis used, you know, or Sly and the Family Stone notoriously used the organ module for drum sounds and built an entire track around it.

00:23:24.000 It's all synthesizers.

00:23:25.000 It's crazy.

00:23:26.000 Or the 808, you know, the famous Roland 808, which was probably the most well-known drum machine on the planet.

00:23:33.000 It was just a synthesizer that only focused on making drum-like sounds that you could program.

00:23:39.000 I remember that.

00:23:40.000 Obviously, there's a lot of people that have a lot of issues with a lot of these things, like other musicians.

00:23:45.000 But the first rumblings I ever heard about it was drum machines.

00:23:49.000 People that did not like a fake drum.

00:23:51.000 They'd hear it in the background.

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 And they'd get mad.

00:23:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:54.000 It's a fucking drum machine. 1.00

00:23:56.000 Yes. 1.00

00:23:57.000 Of course they're going to get mad.

00:23:58.000 I mean, because they perceive it as a threat to perhaps an entire career based on being a drummer.

00:24:06.000 Is it that?

00:24:07.000 Or is it also that they are no longer appreciating someone's skill?

00:24:12.000 Like, if you hear someone play...

00:24:15.000 Sure.

00:24:15.000 There's skill to it, and you enjoy it.

00:24:18.000 You enjoy, like, oh, look at him go off. 0.99

00:24:20.000 Like, Bill Burr is really good at the drums, and he fucking loves drummers. 0.98

00:24:23.000 Love him. 0.91

00:24:24.000 He loves to talk about drummers, and he'll send me clips of guys going off with drums.

00:24:28.000 Yeah.

00:24:29.000 Like, people who are really good with drums, and there's something.

00:24:34.000 There's a piece of that person that's coming out through their playing.

00:24:38.000 Yeah.

00:24:38.000 Like if Travis Barker goes off on the drums, that's Travis Barker expressing himself.

00:24:45.000 Yeah, well that's the cool thing about it.

00:24:46.000 There is no threat, essentially.

00:24:48.000 I mean, I'm going back to that threat kind of thing.

00:24:51.000 It's like there is no threat in that that person's going to be who they are, and no one's going to replace a drummer.

00:24:57.000 I mean, certainly, I used to play sampled drums on the keyboard live for hip-hop groups.

00:25:02.000 So I'd just be...

00:25:04.000 But I'm just playing it.

00:25:07.000 But because it's a drum kit sound, and it's sampled so that however I hit it, if I hit it harder, the snare sounds a little bit harder hit.

00:25:17.000 Or if it's softer, it resonates a little bit more.

00:25:20.000 I would get into the feel of it.

00:25:21.000 So I was kind of like a keyboard drummer, right?

00:25:24.000 Yeah.

00:25:26.000 So there's that crossover element of it.

00:25:28.000 But a lot of drummers, when you're listening to music and you listen to a beat, you're like, wow, that's a really well done.

00:25:34.000 They just like rhythm. 1.00

00:25:35.000 So it's not really about like, oh, fuck those guys. 1.00

00:25:40.000 It's a drum machine. 1.00

00:25:41.000 They could have just got a drummer.

00:25:42.000 It's like people don't really think like that anymore.

00:25:44.000 Now a lot of drummers program their own beats because they just like rhythm.

00:25:48.000 But, you know, of course, a player playing, you just can't, there is no substitution for that, you know?

00:25:53.000 Hearing people play, and a lot of drummers started playing like drum machines.

00:25:57.000 Like, remember the end of Erykah Badu, or no, the Roots song?

00:26:01.000 Ba-ba-da [...]-doom, ba-ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-doom. 0.80

00:26:10.000 That whole thing, that whole song, it just starts cycling that melody.

00:26:14.000 And then you hear at the very end, it's so tasteful.

00:26:16.000 At the very, very end, it was when drum and bass was kind of on the scene for a little while, since 95. And you hear at the end, Questlove starts going...

00:26:30.000 He's playing like drum and bass producers making drum and bass beats.

00:26:35.000 So he's mimicking that.

00:26:36.000 And then there was like a bunch of cats in my own town on our jam nights that purposefully would set up a kit where it would have two or three snares.

00:26:45.000 Like this guy K.J. Saka.

00:26:47.000 Monster drummer.

00:26:48.000 Two or three different kits.

00:26:49.000 So essentially he'd just rotate this way and he'd have a different kit, different kit here, and a different kit there.

00:26:55.000 So it'd be...

00:27:00.000 So it would sound like sliced samples stuck together to make a beat, just like they actually made the beats.

00:27:07.000 So you get this call and response that happens.

00:27:10.000 So you get like, so there's drum machines, then there's sampled programming, and then you got drummers mimicking sampled programming, and then sampled programmers mixing and hybridizing both of those approaches at the same time.

00:27:24.000 So, music is like, there are no limits, and the confines or the constraints or introduction of new technology is more exciting to me as a creator than anything.

00:27:34.000 Well, you're a technology enthusiast, though, on top of being a musician, so that also applies.

00:27:39.000 But it's like there's a difference in whether or not you're appreciating someone's artistic manipulation of musical instruments or whether you're just appreciating the final sound.

00:27:51.000 For some people that don't like myself, I don't know anything about music, but I like sounds.

00:27:56.000 I like, oh, that sounds cool.

00:27:58.000 And if the sound comes out of an electronic simulator or synthesizer, it's cool, but I think there's something that's really special about the way Gary Clark Jr. plays guitar.

00:28:11.000 Are you kidding me?

00:28:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:28:12.000 There's something about knowing that that's a dude with strings and he's making these wild noises.

00:28:19.000 Oh man, yeah.

00:28:20.000 I mean, do you know Thundercat?

00:28:21.000 Yes.

00:28:22.000 Okay, so Thundercat, genius, total genius, good friend of mine.

00:28:26.000 I love him so much.

00:28:28.000 He plays the bass like he's playing three instruments at once, right?

00:28:33.000 He's one of those guys, he's a hybrid guy, so he's taking the idea of multi-track music And he's playing it live on his bass.

00:28:41.000 So you hear him essentially, like how a beatboxer will beatbox, and you think you're hearing the whole song, like let's say they're doing a cover or whatever, and it's just them, there's no effects, they're just doing it, and you're like, oh, there's the melody line, there's the hook, oh, and there's that drum beat,

00:28:56.000 oh, and there's the bass line.

00:28:57.000 But they're doing this trick where some of their body is playing aspects of the rhythm.

00:29:04.000 Melody-wise, they're figuring out ways to sneak breaths in, We're good to go.

00:29:29.000 By constantly referencing them, but they're sewing it together in one thing.

00:29:33.000 And Thundercat's the same way.

00:29:35.000 He's like playing rhythms, chords, melodies at the same time.

00:29:41.000 All at the same time.

00:29:42.000 And it's just mind-blowing.

00:29:45.000 I love watching musicians like that.

00:29:46.000 Is this his own sort of style that he's created?

00:29:49.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, it's kind of like, imagine like, it's an evolution of jazz fusion.

00:29:54.000 So Jaco Pastorius, for instance, like the innovator fretless electric bass guitar.

00:30:00.000 And then you got like, I'm forgetting his name, Clark.

00:30:05.000 His last name is Clark, but he was a giant hands, amazing bass player, or Pino Palladino.

00:30:10.000 You know, like they're these monster bass players.

00:30:12.000 They have like five string basses, you know, just like thick necked basses and they're playing...

00:30:17.000 What's a normal bass have?

00:30:18.000 How many strings?

00:30:19.000 Four?

00:30:19.000 Four strings, yeah, and then you've got five, sometimes even six-string basses.

00:30:22.000 They're just insane.

00:30:24.000 So you've got people that are hybridizing.

00:30:26.000 It's like, this is my instrument.

00:30:27.000 I learn on a four-string.

00:30:28.000 I can hold it down.

00:30:29.000 I can do this.

00:30:30.000 I can do that.

00:30:31.000 But I want more.

00:30:32.000 So they start figuring out ways to sneak in, like, oh, now I'm going to make a sound.

00:30:35.000 If I hit the body of the instrument, the pickups, I put in a different pickup.

00:30:39.000 So when I hit the body of the instrument, it sounds like a drum sound.

00:30:42.000 So now I'm like hitting it, strumming, doing hammer-ons so I don't actually need to be strumming and I'm hitting doing melodies, still playing a melody on the fretboard and then pulling, slapping, you know, it's crazy.

00:30:56.000 But yes, but to your point, musicianship, to see it...

00:31:00.000 It's amazing.

00:31:01.000 But there are musicians, I'm trying to think of his name, short term memory gone.

00:31:07.000 He plays a grid, which was pretty popular six or seven years ago.

00:31:12.000 It's just a grid of lights and you assign sounds to it.

00:31:15.000 And he's playing both of them with his hands.

00:31:17.000 So he's playing samples and beats and rhythms that sounds like electronic tracks.

00:31:22.000 And when you're hearing it, you're like, oh, he's just playing along to a track.

00:31:24.000 It's like, no, he's doing everything.

00:31:26.000 At once.

00:31:27.000 So it sounds like a full-on techno track.

00:31:35.000 It's insane to me.

00:31:37.000 It's funny how people like to dismiss certain things as being either not legitimate or not good.

00:31:45.000 Like scratching.

00:31:47.000 Like DJs.

00:31:48.000 Some DJs, yeah, they are sampling other people's music, but the way they're putting it together is unique and it's really entertaining.

00:31:59.000 There's something cool about it.

00:32:01.000 Russell Peters is a legit DJ. Oh, I didn't know that.

00:32:04.000 You didn't know that?

00:32:05.000 Yeah, Russell's legit.

00:32:06.000 And you talk to Russell about DJs that are not really DJs.

00:32:09.000 They just press play on their laptop.

00:32:11.000 He gets furious. 0.99

00:32:13.000 He fucking hates it because he really spins records. 0.99

00:32:16.000 He's got the headphones. 0.99

00:32:17.000 He's doing the whole thing.

00:32:18.000 Yeah, he's mixing live.

00:32:19.000 Exactly.

00:32:20.000 Well, yeah.

00:32:20.000 I mean, essentially, I've been asked to DJ parties, and I'm literally—it's what you call selectors.

00:32:27.000 You can be a selector.

00:32:29.000 Don't call yourself a DJ. You can call yourself a selector.

00:32:31.000 You're just someone who's like, oh, this song would be nice next.

00:32:34.000 And then you press, the song ends and then you press play for the next song.

00:32:38.000 But isn't DJs a weird word, right?

00:32:40.000 Because it used to be disc jockey, which is a guy on the radio that just played songs.

00:32:44.000 Right, that's true.

00:32:45.000 So that's the original DJ, had nothing to do with mixing.

00:32:48.000 Not technically, I mean, other than the records, right?

00:32:51.000 So like back in the day, like, oh, I had a record player and the guy's like, oh, wait a minute.

00:32:56.000 What?

00:32:58.000 And I'm like, oh, but if I also use the volume fader...

00:33:01.000 So they were still a DJ, technically.

00:33:03.000 But not the guys who were on, like, Wolfman Jack.

00:33:06.000 Hey, everybody, this is Wolfman Jack.

00:33:08.000 They were just DJs.

00:33:09.000 Like, that was the original...

00:33:11.000 Like, the word DJ changed.

00:33:13.000 Sure.

00:33:13.000 A hundred percent.

00:33:14.000 A hundred percent.

00:33:14.000 No.

00:33:15.000 But it's just, you know, it's how we develop things.

00:33:17.000 Like, hey, Mr. DJ. You know, it's just...

00:33:19.000 There's still a disc jockey.

00:33:21.000 The DJ saved my life from a broken heart.

00:33:24.000 Yes.

00:33:24.000 I mean, it's so funny when you talk about artifice and the difference between, let's say, produced music that uses samples and drum machines and things like that, and then performed music, live music.

00:33:38.000 It's interesting, the era that we're in now, I would say arguably for the last 10, 15 years, moved away from bands so much.

00:33:47.000 I mean, bands still exist in subculture, for sure, and you'll see them on alternative magazines, and there's tons of bands.

00:33:55.000 There's bands still.

00:33:56.000 But the stuff that hits the mainstream...

00:33:58.000 That you get essentially like Nickelodeon Disney artists that get installed as pop stars, right?

00:34:07.000 Nothing against them.

00:34:09.000 They're fine people or whatever.

00:34:10.000 But the system is based off the real stars of this system are producers.

00:34:15.000 It's producer based music.

00:34:17.000 So the producer is kind of the star.

00:34:19.000 The singer is kind of the front person.

00:34:21.000 So they're the face of it, right?

00:34:22.000 So they represent the music.

00:34:24.000 So in a way, it's kind of like corporate music.

00:34:26.000 You know, it's like their tracks, like some of them can be like really great sounding, but then you look at the liner notes and 14 songwriters, you know, whether that's true or not.

00:34:36.000 Some people just want to be included because they're in the room or whatever.

00:34:38.000 But you get like credits of like 14 songwriters, seven songwriters, five songwriters.

00:34:43.000 And then the producer is really the one that makes it all shine.

00:34:45.000 It's not like Fleetwood Mac sitting down and recording Rumors, which is a whole different thing when you hear that.

00:34:53.000 You're like, oh my god, this is so beautiful and constructed and the musicianship and the production, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:59.000 Now you get tracks that, you know, they're cool.

00:35:02.000 I mean, they're fine.

00:35:03.000 They sound good in the club and all of that stuff.

00:35:05.000 But in comparison, it's a complete paradigm shift.

00:35:09.000 It's interesting.

00:35:11.000 It's got to be so difficult to get a bunch of people that are really creative to agree how music comes together.

00:35:18.000 Like, if you get five people that are in a band, and, you know, you got your guitar player, your lead singer, the drummer, everybody's all together, and they have to figure out how to agree.

00:35:27.000 Mm-hmm.

00:35:29.000 That's got to be so difficult because you have egos and different visions and different creativity and I think the drum solo should be longer.

00:35:39.000 Well, you know, it depends on the situation, right?

00:35:41.000 Because sometimes there's a songwriter, right?

00:35:43.000 There's one songwriter in the band or there's two songwriters in the band.

00:35:46.000 The band's a five-piece.

00:35:48.000 So essentially...

00:35:50.000 In a healthy, functioning group of musicians, whether it's collectively created or whether it's steered by one or two people, they all agree that they're in service of what the music wants to be.

00:36:04.000 So when you hear something like, oh, that's dope.

00:36:08.000 Can you play that again?

00:36:09.000 Like, oh, yeah.

00:36:09.000 Oh, that's dope.

00:36:10.000 Hold on.

00:36:10.000 I got an idea.

00:36:11.000 It's more like that.

00:36:13.000 In a healthy situation, you're hearing something, you're inspired, and you're adding something.

00:36:17.000 Then someone's like, okay, great.

00:36:18.000 And like, yeah, but we need a bridge or something.

00:36:21.000 It's like, well, I was kind of messing with these chords.

00:36:24.000 Actually, I like that, but can you change that third chord like this?

00:36:27.000 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

00:36:28.000 That's kind of like, in my best healthy experiences, that's how music is made.

00:36:33.000 Because you're not like...

00:36:35.000 Personally generating the music, you're listening to something that wants to exist in the world, and you're kind of in service of it, is generally how I like to look at it.

00:36:44.000 Some people will, yeah, their ego will come into it.

00:36:50.000 But their ego will get into it, and they start to confuse where they're getting their ideas from, because they start to claim full responsibility for it.

00:36:58.000 Right, let's think about how many great bands fall apart because of personality battles.

00:37:03.000 Totally.

00:37:03.000 You know?

00:37:04.000 Yeah, especially when they started in a great place.

00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 You know, when a band starts and they're like, oh yeah, we were having so much fun and then something happened, we got more fame.

00:37:11.000 Somebody brings their girlfriend into the recording sessions.

00:37:14.000 Somebody brings their girlfriend into the recording session or a manager, you know, gets involved and starts dividing people and going, hey man, you know, you're the real star.

00:37:21.000 You know, that kind of stuff. 1.00

00:37:22.000 Yes, that kind of shit. 1.00

00:37:24.000 Oh my god, that's so common. 1.00

00:37:26.000 If that happens, I'm out of there.

00:37:27.000 That's not why I'm doing what I'm doing.

00:37:29.000 It's like, you know, I had this thing with Louis back in the day, Louis C.K. So I did this gig he wanted me to do, or he had me be kind of a music coordinator for Louis, the series.

00:37:42.000 And they said, here's the budget, right?

00:37:45.000 Can you duplicate all of these songs for my series?

00:37:48.000 Because we don't want to pay the licensing fee for the actual track.

00:37:51.000 So we want sound-alikes to his tracks that he wanted to be on the thing.

00:37:55.000 So I was like, okay, cool.

00:37:56.000 I got together a sick dude, my friend Matt Kilmer, who's an amazing frame drummer, drum player, producer guy.

00:38:04.000 He comes in, finds these really cool group of guys.

00:38:07.000 They come together.

00:38:08.000 They're all improvisers.

00:38:09.000 They're super fast.

00:38:10.000 I have a list of music we're supposed to replicate.

00:38:13.000 We just go through it.

00:38:14.000 Matt's guiding them through it, MDing the whole thing.

00:38:16.000 I'm just kind of coordinating.

00:38:17.000 We get everything done.

00:38:19.000 And then at the end of it, we're like, cool.

00:38:22.000 We got all the songs.

00:38:23.000 They're like, yeah, we love it.

00:38:24.000 And I'm like, now we just need to mix the songs.

00:38:26.000 And then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:38:30.000 No one's saying anything about mixing.

00:38:32.000 I was like, are you kidding me?

00:38:34.000 Like, you know, mixing is an important part of music, right?

00:38:37.000 You make the music, you record the music, now it needs to be mixed to sound really great, and then it needs to be mastered.

00:38:43.000 And so they, like, didn't get that, or they pretended like they didn't get it.

00:38:47.000 And then they were, like, saying, well, we're gonna have to take that out of your fee, or whatever.

00:38:51.000 And so I was like...

00:38:55.000 No.

00:38:55.000 What?

00:38:56.000 Why?

00:38:57.000 What's happening?

00:38:58.000 And then it just kept going back and forth with the producers about like, yeah, you know, that's not cool you didn't tell us.

00:39:02.000 And then I was like, you know what? 1.00

00:39:04.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:39:05.000 Keep all my money. 1.00

00:39:06.000 Use it for the recording session.

00:39:08.000 I'd suggest you keep Matt, because he's the guy who really did all the heavy lifting.

00:39:12.000 And I'm out of here.

00:39:13.000 And I just left.

00:39:15.000 Because there's no point.

00:39:17.000 I'm not in this industry.

00:39:18.000 I'm not in the entertainment industry.

00:39:21.000 Because I... Because it's all about money and all about opportunity.

00:39:25.000 I just want to have a good time.

00:39:26.000 You want to create.

00:39:27.000 I want to create and I want to have a good time.

00:39:28.000 And if someone starts to make a big deal about something...

00:39:31.000 So they just didn't understand the process of making music.

00:39:33.000 That's what they said.

00:39:35.000 So you think they did and they were being manipulative because they wanted to save money?

00:39:38.000 I don't want to say either way necessarily, but it felt shady to me.

00:39:42.000 It felt like maybe they didn't know, then they figured out that that's true, but then they still stuck with their story.

00:39:47.000 Reggie Watts, you had a Hollywood moment.

00:39:49.000 I had a Hollywood moment.

00:39:51.000 I was like, whoa, this is that thing that, oh yeah, this happens or whatever.

00:39:57.000 But the good thing is they kept the dude.

00:40:00.000 Matt Kilmer did the music, MD'd the music for the next season.

00:40:04.000 I don't know how many more seasons they did, but at least the second season.

00:40:07.000 So that was good.

00:40:07.000 I knew he had a gig.

00:40:08.000 He was really good at it.

00:40:10.000 We figured it out.

00:40:12.000 My point is, if a process becomes too difficult and everyone's being super tedious about it, and you're talking about making something, like a piece of art, I'm like, you know what? 0.87

00:40:22.000 Let's just simplify it and cut the thing that we're having a problem with, or if it's too much trouble, let's just not do it, because it's not fucking worth it.

00:40:29.000 It's like, we're here to have a good time. 0.53

00:40:31.000 Yeah.

00:40:31.000 Well, also, you don't need it.

00:40:33.000 You have a lot of things going on.

00:40:35.000 You can just walk away.

00:40:36.000 Yeah, true.

00:40:37.000 But arguably, just to keep it real, back in the day when I wasn't really making dough, and I was just gig to gig, barely making rent or whatever, If a project was, like, too difficult, I just had to get out of there.

00:40:50.000 It's just not worth it to me. 0.89

00:40:52.000 Like, I would rather just, like, figure out, like, ah, shit, how am I going to borrow money to make rent rather than, like, continue to, like, go to a rehearsal space where it feels shitty. 0.97

00:41:00.000 Isn't that... 0.95

00:41:01.000 It's so interesting because, like, if it all comes together, whether it's with comedy or with anything else, some creative...

00:41:08.000 Venture, some sort of thing where you're just trying to make something.

00:41:11.000 It comes together and it feels great. 0.98

00:41:13.000 But then, if you're doing that and then you got some situation, like you got some executive that stepped in and has decided to put their greasy little fingerprints all over everything and manipulate stuff and tweak things and tell you what you can and can't do and pull their dick out, 0.99

00:41:28.000 and you're like, oh no! 0.97

00:41:31.000 What have we done?

00:41:32.000 We've gotten mixed up with commerce and nonsense and non-creative people.

00:41:36.000 It's the number one problem with television shows.

00:41:39.000 When you have the creative people, the artists and the performers, and then they interact with the executives who are almost never creative and counter often to creativity.

00:41:51.000 100%.

00:41:51.000 Well, that's why if you have a producer that's willing to fight for the vision of a piece, and you also set the criteria before you get into it.

00:41:59.000 That's the important thing.

00:42:00.000 But once you get going, man, people reveal their true selves.

00:42:03.000 That's the problem.

00:42:04.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:42:05.000 But even in that situation, I've been really lucky.

00:42:09.000 I've had maybe two Hollywood experiences like the one I described.

00:42:16.000 Most of the time it's like if you're a judge of character and it feels good when you sit down at the meeting and they're talking a good game and talk to other people who've worked with them and they're like, they're really great. 0.98

00:42:25.000 You can avoid all that shit.

00:42:27.000 Or if you work with someone like Netflix who's just like, Uh, are you going to make it? 0.98

00:42:32.000 Yeah.

00:42:32.000 Okay, we'll see when it's made.

00:42:34.000 Yeah.

00:42:35.000 That's about it.

00:42:35.000 That's what they do with stand-up specials.

00:42:37.000 That's what they do with my special, which was super weird.

00:42:39.000 It's amazing.

00:42:40.000 And they were like, okay, cool.

00:42:42.000 Great job.

00:42:43.000 I was like, that's how you do it.

00:42:44.000 That's how you set the precedent.

00:42:45.000 Yeah.

00:42:46.000 You just, you just like allow the artist to, if you're, if you have a meeting with the artist and they have a very clear vision and they've laid it out and they've got really great team around them, then just let them do the thing.

00:42:55.000 Yes.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, they've been great with that.

00:42:58.000 Netflix is probably the best ever at just letting you do a special.

00:43:02.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:43:03.000 I had a conversation once before I did a Comedy Central special, and we went over the phone.

00:43:10.000 We had a phone call, and they said, okay, we have a transcript of your act, and we'd like to talk to you about various bits.

00:43:17.000 And they're like, okay, this we've got to change.

00:43:20.000 I'm like, what do you mean we've got to change?

00:43:21.000 And they go, well, it would be better if you didn't say it like that.

00:43:25.000 I go, stop.

00:43:26.000 We're done.

00:43:27.000 The phone call was like 10 minutes long.

00:43:29.000 It was supposed to be an hour conversation.

00:43:30.000 I was like, we can't do this.

00:43:32.000 I go, thank you, thank you, but I'm not going to do it.

00:43:34.000 And they're like, what?

00:43:35.000 And I was like, yeah, I'm not doing it.

00:43:38.000 We can't do this.

00:43:39.000 I can't do this special.

00:43:41.000 There's no way I'm going to go over the transcript on the phone with you of my act.

00:43:46.000 Because first of all, I'm not even going to say it the way it's on the...

00:43:49.000 The transcript was one set at the comedy store that we recorded and then someone transcribed.

00:43:56.000 I might not do it that way in front of a live audience because I'm kind of free-flowing. 0.99

00:44:02.000 I fuck around. 0.99

00:44:03.000 I mix things up. 0.99

00:44:05.000 I'll do this bit third instead of first and that bit fifth and they'll tie together in a different way because I feel it in the moment.

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:13.000 Yeah.

00:44:14.000 I mean, it's just not – there's no way I could do that.

00:44:18.000 Well, first of all, I don't have a transcript.

00:44:19.000 So that gives me a little bit of an edge.

00:44:22.000 You just have to trust that I'm – I mean, the first time I did the – was it The Tonight Show?

00:44:25.000 Or no, The Fallon Show.

00:44:27.000 Before he had The Tonight Show, was it just The Jimmy Fallon Show?

00:44:30.000 What was it?

00:44:30.000 I think it was just The Jimmy Fallon Show.

00:44:32.000 He had a show before The Tonight Show?

00:44:33.000 Yeah.

00:44:33.000 It was just the – I think it was just Jimmy Fallon.

00:44:36.000 Was he like late night or something?

00:44:39.000 Yeah, it was a late night show.

00:44:40.000 Like he had the Conan O'Brien spot or something?

00:44:42.000 Is that correct?

00:44:44.000 Anyways, maybe it was.

00:44:46.000 I'm sorry, I'm confused.

00:44:47.000 Are you thinking of Carson Daly?

00:44:48.000 No, no, no.

00:44:49.000 Definitely not Carson Daly.

00:44:50.000 It was when Fallon, well, I guess he's still in New York, but he was in New York.

00:44:54.000 He was doing the show.

00:44:56.000 The Roots were the band.

00:44:57.000 And my friend...

00:44:59.000 Todd was working as a writer there, and they suggested I do a set there to do a live comedy set.

00:45:05.000 And I remember the producers calling me.

00:45:09.000 We had a phone meeting or whatever with my manager.

00:45:10.000 And they were just like, yeah, do you have any examples of what you're going to do?

00:45:13.000 And I'm like, no.

00:45:14.000 Do you have a transcript?

00:45:15.000 I'm like, no.

00:45:16.000 And they're like, well, we'll get back to you.

00:45:21.000 And then they let me do it.

00:45:22.000 And I remember the producer...

00:45:25.000 Paging the curtain for me before I was going out.

00:45:27.000 And he's like, you're not going to do anything like embarrassing to us.

00:45:31.000 And I'm like, no, man, it's fine.

00:45:33.000 You know, whatever.

00:45:33.000 And they let me go.

00:45:34.000 And I knew they were like so nervous about it because they didn't have any, you know, there was nothing to verify with what I was going to do.

00:45:40.000 And then I did my set and it was totally fine.

00:45:42.000 Right.

00:45:43.000 But the thing is, like, I've built in the ability for people that you're either going to like want me or not.

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:49.000 It's not like, can you modify your...

00:45:52.000 You figure your way through the net.

00:45:53.000 Yeah.

00:45:54.000 I mean, if they say, like, you shouldn't swear, I'll do that.

00:45:57.000 That's easy.

00:45:58.000 Yeah.

00:45:58.000 That's super easy.

00:45:59.000 I don't swear a lot.

00:46:00.000 And when I do swear, it's just to be absurd.

00:46:02.000 Yeah.

00:46:03.000 But, you know, it's funny.

00:46:04.000 It reminds me of, you were talking about, like, kind of people coming in and ruining ideas or whatever.

00:46:09.000 It's like my whole thing with, like, you know, I started this, a little bit of a plug, but I started my own app called WhatsApp.

00:46:17.000 What is it?

00:46:20.000 It's like a, think of it as like my own social media account, if you will.

00:46:29.000 It's just like, essentially like a glorified website, right?

00:46:31.000 But it's an app.

00:46:32.000 You go on there, all my videos are on there, or videos that I want to be on there.

00:46:35.000 I have this stupid web series called Droneversations, which is me interviewing people, but it's all shot on drones.

00:46:43.000 And the drones are super loud and you can barely hear the conversation. 0.96

00:46:47.000 Yeah.

00:46:50.000 How long did you develop this app for?

00:46:52.000 We developed it for my friend Oliver Thomas Klein, who's a genius.

00:46:57.000 It probably took maybe a year to build or less.

00:47:02.000 It's a conversation, getting an app going.

00:47:05.000 I was looking at getting an app going a few years back, and I met with some people, and the numbers they were throwing around, I was like, wait, how much?

00:47:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:14.000 I remember being quoted close to $200,000.

00:47:16.000 Oh, I was double that.

00:47:17.000 Really?

00:47:18.000 Yeah, it was like half a million bucks.

00:47:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:20.000 And that wasn't even sure.

00:47:21.000 They weren't even sure we could get it done with that.

00:47:23.000 It's like I was building a house.

00:47:25.000 Here's the initial estimate.

00:47:26.000 Yeah.

00:47:27.000 I mean, I worked with some really great people.

00:47:29.000 My friend Sasha, who's a brilliant creative advertising person.

00:47:33.000 She now has her own company. 0.91

00:47:35.000 She sells this product called Period Pants, which is like period pants for women, with this no bullshit kind of thing. 1.00

00:47:43.000 Whatever.

00:47:44.000 Women's hygiene can be simplified. 0.99

00:47:46.000 We have a solution for it.

00:47:47.000 What is the solution?

00:47:48.000 It's called Period Pants.

00:47:50.000 What do they do?

00:47:51.000 They're underwear.

00:47:51.000 That have an absorbent material in it.

00:47:53.000 It's not a new concept.

00:47:54.000 Built into the pants?

00:47:55.000 Built into the pants.

00:47:56.000 So the pant itself is the absorbent thing.

00:47:58.000 So you got a padding in the pants.

00:48:00.000 Do you Velcro it out and throw it in the wash?

00:48:02.000 No.

00:48:02.000 You wash the whole thing.

00:48:04.000 Just like underpants.

00:48:05.000 So essentially it's just like special underpants that have an absorption layer to it. 0.97

00:48:09.000 Which is fucking brilliant. 0.93

00:48:11.000 And her campaign is brilliant. 0.98

00:48:13.000 She did Impossible.

00:48:14.000 The first Impossible Burger campaign.

00:48:17.000 Impossible.

00:48:17.000 The whole thing, the image of it and how it was presented, that was all Sasha Markov.

00:48:23.000 But she linked me to some people, some designers, who were really amazing people.

00:48:29.000 And I sat down, designed with them, and thought about all the stuff.

00:48:32.000 And they're like, cool, let me find a development team, get back to you.

00:48:35.000 And the budget was like...

00:48:37.000 I was thinking about like 30 grand, 35 grand, and they're like, how about 190?

00:48:42.000 And I'm like, I don't have that money.

00:48:46.000 That's like a lot of money.

00:48:47.000 That's so much money.

00:48:48.000 So much money.

00:48:49.000 And then Sasha was like, no, no, no, no.

00:48:52.000 There's got to be someone else.

00:48:53.000 And then she found a producer who then linked me to Thomas Oliver Kline, or Oliver Thomas Kline, and And he gets on the video call with us.

00:49:03.000 And I'm like, this is what I want to do.

00:49:06.000 30, 35 grand.

00:49:07.000 And he's like, oh yeah, I can do that.

00:49:09.000 Really?

00:49:10.000 And I was like, for real?

00:49:11.000 And he's like, yeah.

00:49:11.000 And he did it.

00:49:12.000 35 grand.

00:49:13.000 I had my app.

00:49:14.000 Now we've made additions to it that have cost more to implement.

00:49:19.000 But he was completely accurate.

00:49:21.000 It was one dude and my app was made.

00:49:23.000 I have a friend who has an app for meditation.

00:49:25.000 He built this app and then had to redesign the entire thing and start all over again with a new team.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, that happens.

00:49:33.000 Yeah, I mean, with mine it's great because we thought about modularity and expansion from the beginning, and he's a super smart dude.

00:49:40.000 He's into crypto and all that stuff, even before crypto was crypto.

00:49:43.000 Is he into Dogecoin?

00:49:45.000 Dogecoin.

00:49:46.000 How do you say it?

00:49:46.000 Dogecoin.

00:49:47.000 Does anybody really know how to say it?

00:49:48.000 Doggy coin?

00:49:50.000 It's Doge.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, it's Doge coin.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, Doge.

00:49:53.000 Doge.

00:49:53.000 But, you know, and I was just like, you know, Instagram's great, but you're at the whim of their aesthetics.

00:49:59.000 You know, plus you're being tracked, and it's really just a shopping.

00:50:03.000 And they can just decide to demonetize you, or rather de-platform you, or just...

00:50:09.000 Shadow ban you.

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:12.000 Algorithmize you or whatever.

00:50:13.000 Yeah.

00:50:14.000 And if you develop an application and that application is 100% you, then you're free.

00:50:21.000 Yes.

00:50:21.000 That's totally it.

00:50:22.000 And that's why I did it.

00:50:23.000 And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to put Droneversations up there.

00:50:26.000 And Droneversations, I had Thundercats.

00:50:28.000 Let me see Droneversations.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 Are there any of them online?

00:50:31.000 Can we watch?

00:50:32.000 Yes.

00:50:32.000 Or do you have to do the app?

00:50:34.000 No, I think there might be some online.

00:50:36.000 Yeah.

00:50:36.000 There's Jack White, Feist, Thundercat.

00:50:41.000 Go to Thundercat.

00:50:43.000 Yeah, Thundercat.

00:50:43.000 Fred Armisen.

00:50:46.000 It's a stupid idea, but I wanted to do it for so long, and I was like, you know what? 0.99

00:50:50.000 I'm gonna become my own production company, and I'm gonna stop pitching. 0.99

00:50:54.000 I mean, I'll keep pitching, but if no one's into an idea, I'm just gonna make it.

00:50:58.000 So this was one of the first.

00:51:00.000 Put it on the app, and then I put pictures on there.

00:51:03.000 I can send messages to fans, so I'll be like, hey, you look cute today.

00:51:06.000 As a notification or whatever.

00:51:08.000 And it doesn't cost anything.

00:51:10.000 There's no monetization.

00:51:11.000 I have a store, so that's a hard thing, right?

00:51:13.000 I go to a store.

00:51:14.000 There's a price.

00:51:15.000 I pay that price.

00:51:17.000 There's no hidden costs.

00:51:18.000 Everything is transparent.

00:51:19.000 Oh, that's really dope.

00:51:21.000 That's such a Reggie Watts thing to do.

00:51:23.000 Oh, man.

00:51:23.000 You have no idea.

00:51:25.000 I was so stoked.

00:51:26.000 And then I'm going to do the first, well, I don't know if it's the first, but volumetric live stream, because I have live streaming on it, too.

00:51:32.000 Cool.

00:51:33.000 It's the only one I can find.

00:51:34.000 Oh yeah, this is me and JoJo.

00:51:36.000 Let me hear this.

00:51:37.000 Swimming for like half an hour is super hard and I was like, I'm not cool.

00:51:41.000 I would just be swimming all the time and that would be a great way to burn calories.

00:51:44.000 You have a Chinese rice farmer's hat on.

00:51:46.000 I do. 1.00

00:51:47.000 You're just fucking around. 1.00

00:51:49.000 You can do it forever. 1.00

00:51:50.000 People, I mean, old people like to do it. 1.00

00:51:53.000 And you're both wearing masks.

00:51:55.000 Yeah.

00:51:56.000 And you're outside.

00:51:57.000 Well, this was the early days.

00:51:59.000 Like beating myself up.

00:52:00.000 Oh, but now she gave up on the mask.

00:52:02.000 Now it's a chin strap.

00:52:03.000 I release that energy.

00:52:04.000 Oh, really? 0.99

00:52:05.000 That's what that shit's about? 1.00

00:52:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:06.000 Do you tend to write about your life experiences? 0.99

00:52:09.000 Yeah, and I'm sick of mine. 1.00

00:52:11.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:52:12.000 It's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:52:13.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

00:52:14.000 That's the dumbest shit ever. 1.00

00:52:15.000 It's like you've been attacked by bees. 1.00

00:52:17.000 Yeah, it's just constant.

00:52:19.000 And yeah, the Fred Armisen one's great.

00:52:22.000 Where'd you film this?

00:52:23.000 This is at that, I forget, Elysian.

00:52:25.000 It's on the edge of Elysian.

00:52:27.000 And that sculpture, this, right there, it's on the edge of Elysian.

00:52:33.000 It's got this beautiful...

00:52:35.000 Shot of downtown and I was super into her single and so I wanted to like have the show turn into a music video and just suddenly out of nowhere and it and it totally turns into that the music video and It's it's just a fun idea to do and I wanted a platform that I can do this on and and like you know and so I'm doing this live stream thing I um with this crew called uh fifth planet and they do volumetric capture which is basically a bunch of uh microsoft azure

00:53:05.000 connect cameras in a circle around you and in real time you can actually manipulate the camera like while i'm doing a video you can actually manipulate the raw feed and um so it'll look i wish there was a way to show you but uh there's a it looks like a It looks like science fiction,

00:53:22.000 like a hologram, but I'm doing a bunch of experiments, and so I'm going to do three of those as a live stream, some comedy or whatever, in a studio, so you can watch on WhatsApp.

00:53:34.000 And then later, that will become a full compressed music video with beautiful sound and everything, and that will be put on a looking glass portrait holographic display.

00:53:46.000 Okay.

00:53:47.000 So I'm now producing content for the Looking Glass Holographic Display, which doesn't require glasses.

00:53:55.000 You're just looking at this frame and there are just holograms inside of it.

00:53:58.000 It looks like a box with things happening inside of it.

00:54:01.000 You don't need glasses for it.

00:54:03.000 And they're planning on scaling.

00:54:05.000 So eventually, imagine you're going to have a 50 inch holographic display.

00:54:09.000 Using a technology that just projects like 45 different angles simultaneously and your brain puts it together as three-dimensional.

00:54:16.000 Oh, wow.

00:54:17.000 So it's an incredible technology and I've known those guys way back since 2010 when they just had like a box with a bunch of LEDs inside of it.

00:54:25.000 Whatever happened to Magic Leap?

00:54:28.000 Remember those sort of misleading commercials?

00:54:31.000 They kind of disappeared, didn't they?

00:54:32.000 They showed you like a ballerina dancing on a man's hand or on a girl's bed. 1.00

00:54:38.000 The AR shit, yeah. 1.00

00:54:39.000 Well, it's like the great AR future. 1.00

00:54:41.000 There's this huge promise of like, oh, you'll be able to put on a pair of glasses and blah, blah, blah.

00:54:46.000 And that's still being worked on, and Apple will release something like that in the future.

00:54:50.000 But...

00:54:50.000 You know, it's still pretty limited, but what's exciting about like the looking glass technology is like a bunch of friends can walk into a room.

00:54:57.000 If that was your monitor, they would see it.

00:54:59.000 Just happening immediately.

00:55:02.000 And you don't need any special gear.

00:55:03.000 It's just happening. 0.95

00:55:04.000 And it looks fucking fantastic. 0.91

00:55:06.000 So I'm going to do a scene with actors. 1.00

00:55:10.000 It's going to be a really dumb scene with actors.

00:55:12.000 But because all the camera angles are happening simultaneously, I'm going to take the feed, give it to a traditional editor, and they're going to rotate, push in, create the insert shot of someone setting down a cup, the two-shot, the master shot, the singles,

00:55:27.000 just from the one performance.

00:55:30.000 Oh, wow.

00:55:31.000 So all the information's there.

00:55:33.000 Exactly, yes.

00:55:34.000 Now, the resolution might be kind of crappy when you push in to something that's, even though it's 4K 60 frames, you're like, someone's sitting down a glass. 0.68

00:55:42.000 It might look artifact-y and stupid, but I don't really care.

00:55:44.000 It's about, like, can we create a traditional 2D linear edit with volumetric capture, which is the holy grail of filmmaking in the future. 0.90

00:55:53.000 That'll be one of the things we'll use.

00:55:55.000 So I'm excited about that.

00:55:56.000 So I'm running that experiment that same live session as well. 0.95

00:56:01.000 Have you fucked around at all with VR movies? 0.98

00:56:04.000 Yes. 0.98

00:56:04.000 I made something called Waves with my friend Benjamin Dickinson that had Natalie from Game of Thrones in it. 0.98

00:56:15.000 But yeah, it was just like you put on the VR headset and it's a movie.

00:56:18.000 It's not interactive.

00:56:19.000 Who's Natalie from the Game of Thrones?

00:56:20.000 Which one is she? 0.93

00:56:21.000 I feel terrible that she's going to kill me. 1.00

00:56:24.000 You'd know her.

00:56:25.000 Cersei's?

00:56:27.000 Oh, there you go.

00:56:28.000 There she is.

00:56:28.000 Yeah, there she is.

00:56:29.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 Reggie Watts is no stranger to, well, to pushing the boundaries of both technology and humor.

00:56:36.000 And he just found a way to do both at once.

00:56:39.000 Yeah.

00:56:40.000 Oh, wow.

00:56:43.000 Oh, wow.

00:56:44.000 So this is all in VR. Dude, this is crazy.

00:56:47.000 And it's a story.

00:56:47.000 It's not interactive.

00:56:48.000 That's why when you say movie, that's what it was.

00:56:51.000 Wow.

00:56:54.000 And you did all this with a green screen like this?

00:56:56.000 Yeah.

00:56:58.000 Wow.

00:56:59.000 And she was so cool.

00:57:00.000 She was doing Game of Thrones and she didn't have to do it at all.

00:57:04.000 And she was like, sure, let's go for it.

00:57:07.000 Wow.

00:57:08.000 Yeah.

00:57:09.000 And I've never even seen this.

00:57:10.000 That's crazy.

00:57:11.000 Yeah.

00:57:11.000 And this was all my design.

00:57:14.000 I mean, not the design design, but the concepts were there.

00:57:17.000 The designer obviously made it happen.

00:57:20.000 So that was my first thing.

00:57:22.000 Me and Ben did that.

00:57:23.000 How long ago was this?

00:57:24.000 That's a long time ago.

00:57:25.000 It was like, I want to say 2000...

00:57:28.000 2017?

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 Let me say 2017. No, I think it was earlier than 2017. Well, no, actually it was 2017. And since then, I've done social VR and alt space.

00:57:38.000 I've done Sansar.

00:57:42.000 Oh, and then there's this company called 3D Live that I just saw an NFT installation on the 59th floor of the U.S. Bank Tower just this last weekend.

00:57:51.000 You wore 3D glasses for...

00:57:53.000 Floor to ceiling display, I don't know, 60 feet across and a wraparound.

00:57:59.000 3D glasses, the NFTs are floating holographically in the center of the room.

00:58:04.000 Jesus.

00:58:05.000 There's like rings that appear from the monitor and they just kind of ring out and the rings are floating in front of you and you can like kind of put your hands in it and it's rotating around.

00:58:13.000 It was insane.

00:58:15.000 And I couldn't believe it.

00:58:17.000 And so I'm like, well, now I need to do a performance with that.

00:58:19.000 And now I'm going to do a performance with...

00:58:22.000 Because the guy who did his name is Young Orbseer.

00:58:24.000 He was the guy showing his NFTs in the gallery.

00:58:27.000 He used to work...

00:58:28.000 Or I guess he still works for 3D Live.

00:58:29.000 But he used to be behind the scenes.

00:58:31.000 Now he's made his own installation.

00:58:33.000 He's in NFTs.

00:58:34.000 Hold, please.

00:58:36.000 Explain NFTs to people that don't know what you're talking about.

00:58:39.000 Because I don't know what you're talking about.

00:58:40.000 I do, but I don't.

00:58:41.000 I know it's a non-fungible token.

00:58:43.000 I'm not exactly sure what that means.

00:58:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:46.000 Well, it's just not very fungible.

00:58:47.000 You know, tokens are super fungible.

00:58:49.000 Got it.

00:58:49.000 These aren't very fungible.

00:58:50.000 I don't even know if I was on Jeopardy.

00:58:54.000 What is fungible?

00:58:56.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:58:58.000 What does fungible mean?

00:59:00.000 Okay, let's Google it.

00:59:01.000 I think it's duplicatable.

00:59:03.000 Yeah, like duplicatable maybe or something.

00:59:05.000 Let's Google it.

00:59:05.000 Yeah, google it.

00:59:07.000 What is the...

00:59:09.000 Go to DuckDuckGo so they'll give you the truth.

00:59:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:12.000 Give me the truth.

00:59:13.000 Okay, here it goes.

00:59:15.000 It's an economic term.

00:59:16.000 Oh, of goods connected for without an individual specimen being specified, able to replace or be replaced by another identical item, mutually interchangeable.

00:59:26.000 It is by no means the world's only fungible commodity.

00:59:29.000 Okay, I understand it even less now.

00:59:31.000 Yeah, I have heard of fungible used in economics.

00:59:35.000 But you can't replicate...

00:59:37.000 So, yeah, non-fungible.

00:59:38.000 So, basically, it's like, I've made a little video of me, or, yeah, I've made a video of me, a 30-second video of me, like, running around, you know, a park or something like that.

00:59:49.000 If I want to make that non-fungible, then I mint it.

00:59:52.000 And by minting, you use a minting service like Foundation or Zora, there's many others.

00:59:59.000 You get a crypto wallet, and you get the crypto wallet set up.

01:00:04.000 You put money in it.

01:00:05.000 It's converted into the crypto of your choice.

01:00:07.000 So let's say ETH, which is very popular.

01:00:09.000 What?

01:00:10.000 Ethereum.

01:00:11.000 That's a very popular crypto?

01:00:12.000 Do you know about that?

01:00:13.000 Yeah, ETH. Fucking nerds. 1.00

01:00:16.000 Actually, it's... 0.99

01:00:18.000 But yeah, so these are some NFTs that we created.

01:00:22.000 So see that one on the very top left?

01:00:25.000 That's the looking glass holographic display. 0.99

01:00:28.000 And so that device, we made an NFT, me and my friend Panther Modern, his name is Brady Keene, check out his music, it's fucking disgusting. 0.75

01:00:39.000 So he made the 3D motion graphics and the TVs and designed all of that stuff with the wires.

01:00:45.000 We shot a bunch of video of me doing the thing.

01:00:47.000 He inserted them on the TV screens.

01:00:49.000 And then we formatted it.

01:00:51.000 It's on a loop.

01:00:52.000 It's got music with it.

01:00:53.000 And that is then put into this device.

01:00:56.000 And so I'm trying to push this phrase called fidgetal.

01:01:00.000 The convergence of physical and digital media.

01:01:03.000 So that's like a perfect representation because the NFT is sold with the device.

01:01:09.000 So when you bid on it and you win it or whatever, that device is sent to you.

01:01:13.000 There's laser etching on the back that says the name of the piece, who made it, and so forth.

01:01:17.000 But technically, it's that unit with the hologram.

01:01:21.000 So it's the world's first holographic NFT, which was bought by...

01:01:27.000 Lee, what's his name?

01:01:28.000 Charlie Lee?

01:01:29.000 Charlie Lee, who created Litecoin, another cryptocurrency.

01:01:33.000 He bought it for almost nothing.

01:01:35.000 And so he now has the physical unit that has the hologram in it, and you could ostensibly just put it on a shelf and call it good, or you can use the display to upload more holographic stuff if you want to.

01:01:45.000 So that was the first holographic NFT. Those other videos that you saw cycling were just standard.

01:01:50.000 Here's a video.

01:01:51.000 We've made it an NFT. But then someone can't replicate that video?

01:01:56.000 Exactly.

01:01:56.000 They hold the license to it.

01:01:58.000 Right.

01:01:58.000 But if you just replicate it and have it on your laptop, how's someone going to stop you?

01:02:02.000 I mean, I guess if you're trying to make money from it, then you couldn't.

01:02:06.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:02:07.000 You wouldn't be able to make money off of it.

01:02:08.000 You wouldn't be able to make money off of it.

01:02:09.000 I mean, technically, you could screenshot it.

01:02:11.000 You could screen capture it.

01:02:12.000 You know, if it's a video.

01:02:14.000 In this case, it's a hologram.

01:02:15.000 So you would have to have a looking glass device and then you'd have to get the file in order to see it, which it is available.

01:02:21.000 But it's stunning when you hear guys like Beeple.

01:02:23.000 Like Beeple sold an NFT for, what, $69 million?

01:02:29.000 Yeah.

01:02:29.000 He's got a little more with his package, though.

01:02:31.000 You get a hair sample.

01:02:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:32.000 Is that his pubes?

01:02:34.000 It could be.

01:02:35.000 I hope so.

01:02:35.000 I don't know if he's...

01:02:36.000 He's got very long, luscious pubes.

01:02:39.000 Like, he sends a whole package when you get his NFT. Okay, so you get an image.

01:02:43.000 I think this is like an iPad with the image on it.

01:02:46.000 The one that sold for a bunch, I believe, was all of them together.

01:02:50.000 Yeah, all of them.

01:02:50.000 In one video, sort of.

01:02:51.000 All of the art for a year.

01:02:53.000 It's like 5,000 pieces.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:55.000 Someone bought it for $69 million in, what, Bitcoin or what?

01:03:00.000 Yeah, I think ETH. They have to buy.

01:03:02.000 The auction is in ETH. So Christie's, you know, it was auctioned by Christie's.

01:03:06.000 It was like ETH. I think it was in ETH. And then how would you go about being actually rich with this?

01:03:12.000 How does Beeple go from this to being a baller?

01:03:15.000 Oh, well, I mean, well, you know, they bid, whoever bids, you know, just like a regular auction, and then they bid using crypto, and the crypto's transferred before they transfer the file to the...

01:03:25.000 So the $69 million in ETH, he could actually put into his account.

01:03:29.000 Yes.

01:03:29.000 And now he has $69 actual million.

01:03:31.000 Yeah, you just convert it.

01:03:32.000 And he can get a Ferrari.

01:03:34.000 Yeah, you could get one Ferrari for $69 million.

01:03:36.000 The thing with ETH though, with some of these contracts, I don't know specifically which one, as I heard him mention this, it's built into the contract.

01:03:45.000 So if the person who bought it for $69 million sells it for $100 million, 10% of that goes back to his wallet.

01:03:52.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

01:03:53.000 $10 million from that.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, you set the resale.

01:03:55.000 So like on ours we did 15%, which is the average.

01:03:58.000 Are you aware of the controversy surrounding the male Mona Lisa?

01:04:02.000 Do you know the story about this?

01:04:03.000 The male Lisa?

01:04:04.000 No.

01:04:05.000 No.

01:04:06.000 There's the most expensive painting ever sold.

01:04:09.000 It was sold for $400 million to the...

01:04:14.000 Bin Salam, what is his name?

01:04:17.000 Mohammed Bin Salam. 0.66

01:04:19.000 Am I saying his name right?

01:04:21.000 The head of Saudi Arabia?

01:04:22.000 MBS. MBS. What is his actual name though?

01:04:25.000 I'm sorry.

01:04:26.000 I think you were close.

01:04:27.000 I fucked it up. 0.88

01:04:28.000 It's probably Brian Saunders. 0.67

01:04:30.000 Mohammed bin Salman Salman yes okay the MBS the the head of Saudi Arabia bought it for four hundred and fifty million dollars this is it and the crazy thing is someone bought it at one point in time in the past I want to say for $1,500,

01:04:51.000 and they didn't realize that it may or may not be, because this is where it gets controversial, may or may not be the work of Leonardo da Vinci.

01:04:58.000 So it was restored.

01:05:01.000 So do the history of this, the controversy and the history of it.

01:05:05.000 Yeah, there's a crazy history to it, where someone bought it for an extremely low amount, and then a Russian oligarch bought it for over $100 million.

01:05:16.000 See, $1,175 at an attic sale in New Orleans for a dirty painting that he hadn't even seen.

01:05:22.000 After a painstaking restoration that I think took a decade, some began whispering that it might be by the master himself.

01:05:31.000 So an art dealer in 2005 paid $1,175 for it.

01:05:36.000 So 16 years ago, someone paid $1,175 for the most expensive painting ever sold.

01:05:44.000 So then this guy, go down, scroll down.

01:05:47.000 I can't get this article.

01:05:52.000 There's a bunch of other articles that are free that you could read about it, but it's it's a crazy story So this this person I believe started working on it in 2005 started the restoration and then by the time I think it was around 2015 they started realizing like holy shit because I guess sometimes in the past someone would take a great painting and they would paint over it and Yes,

01:06:17.000 I've heard of this.

01:06:18.000 Which is crazy.

01:06:18.000 Yes.

01:06:19.000 And so then there's this insanely painstaking restoration project where you're removing layer upon layer upon layer.

01:06:29.000 What?

01:06:30.000 $60.

01:06:30.000 This was sold for 1958. $60.

01:06:34.000 So it gets even crazier.

01:06:35.000 Yeah.

01:06:36.000 This was an article from 2017 where it was on auction for even less than it just sold for it.

01:06:40.000 Yeah.

01:06:41.000 So it was on auction for $100 million then, and that's when it was bought by the Russian oligarch before MBS bought it.

01:06:47.000 So is the controversy that the person who originally bought it should get a kickback because they didn't know the value?

01:06:52.000 No.

01:06:53.000 Here's the controversy.

01:06:54.000 The controversy is it may not be by Leonardo da Vinci at all.

01:06:58.000 I see.

01:06:58.000 Or it might be partly by da Vinci.

01:07:01.000 I see.

01:07:02.000 And so Google this.

01:07:03.000 There's a scan of the image.

01:07:05.000 And I don't understand the technology involved in the scan.

01:07:08.000 But the scan apparently revealed that there's more than one era of painting.

01:07:12.000 Or there's more than one application of painting.

01:07:16.000 Meaning that more than one person worked on it at more than one time.

01:07:21.000 Like an exquisite corpse.

01:07:22.000 Oh, this is the original Mona Lisa, so this might not...

01:07:24.000 No, no, this doesn't reveal it.

01:07:26.000 This is not it.

01:07:27.000 It's about...

01:07:28.000 There was a digital scan of that painting.

01:07:30.000 What is it called again?

01:07:31.000 It said male Mona Lisa.

01:07:33.000 I don't know.

01:07:33.000 There's another name for it.

01:07:35.000 There's a name for that painting.

01:07:36.000 I forget what it is.

01:07:37.000 Salvatore Mundi. 0.97

01:07:39.000 So when they did the scan, there's something about the hands and the way the paint is done on that in relation to the rest of it that it's like, you know, they're talking about like fucking microns. 0.96

01:07:53.000 They're measuring depth and layers and age and all sorts of different shit. 0.99

01:07:59.000 Well, you're dealing with $450 million for a fucking painting. 1.00

01:08:02.000 Jesus. 1.00

01:08:03.000 So, it gets down to this dispute.

01:08:06.000 This is a long page about it.

01:08:08.000 Okay, see if you can see the images, because there's images of the analysis.

01:08:12.000 If you scroll down.

01:08:13.000 It's a beautiful painting.

01:08:14.000 Yeah, it's very beautiful.

01:08:16.000 Oh, there we go.

01:08:16.000 But there's images.

01:08:17.000 Is that what it used to look like on the right?

01:08:19.000 I think that's what it used to look like.

01:08:21.000 And then they slowly but surely restored it to the point where it's at now.

01:08:28.000 Is that what it looked like?

01:08:29.000 There's versions of it, too.

01:08:30.000 People would...

01:08:31.000 Yeah, there's more than one version of it. 0.97

01:08:32.000 So people would buy paintings, like, you know, 100 years ago, 500 years ago, and just fucking start scribbling on it. 0.90

01:08:40.000 Look at the details. 0.96

01:08:40.000 Paint over it. 0.96

01:08:41.000 Yeah.

01:08:42.000 So they had to go over these things to restore them.

01:08:46.000 Like insanely painstaking.

01:08:48.000 Like I said, it took like 10 years to restore this.

01:08:52.000 Well, I see.

01:08:53.000 I see.

01:08:53.000 They're doing like this.

01:08:54.000 This is a, what do you call it?

01:08:55.000 Cross-section analysis.

01:08:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:58.000 Wild shit. 1.00

01:08:58.000 Yeah, because they have to find like what is the original paint color. 1.00

01:09:01.000 So they have to find the original layer.

01:09:03.000 Exactly.

01:09:04.000 So that's what it used to look like.

01:09:05.000 Imagine that.

01:09:06.000 And then they bring it from that to what you see now.

01:09:09.000 Like, look at that.

01:09:10.000 Crazy.

01:09:11.000 So what does that mean then?

01:09:12.000 Do they paint over it?

01:09:14.000 Like, how do they do that?

01:09:15.000 Does someone paint over the old paint and make it look better?

01:09:19.000 Is that better? 0.95

01:09:20.000 Like, isn't it better to be scratchy and all fucked up in the original painting? 0.98

01:09:24.000 I know, I know, I know. 0.98

01:09:25.000 Yeah, I guess it just depends on what you want, right?

01:09:27.000 But that's the problem with this painting.

01:09:29.000 So...

01:09:30.000 After all that, after buying it for $450 million, it's currently in controversial dispute as to whether or not it's actually the work of Leonardo da Vinci.

01:09:40.000 Makes sense.

01:09:41.000 So they wanted him to donate it to the Louvre in Paris.

01:09:46.000 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 But they were like, we're not going to put it next to the Mona Lisa.

01:09:50.000 He wanted it to be next to the Mona Lisa as the male Mona Lisa.

01:09:54.000 The Mona Lisa is the male Mona Lisa.

01:09:55.000 And they're like, uh-uh.

01:09:56.000 They're like, we're not going to give this the red stamp.

01:09:59.000 We don't even know if this is real.

01:10:01.000 Wow.

01:10:02.000 Yeah.

01:10:03.000 Interesting.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, it's just, oh man, could you imagine that feeling of being rejected like that?

01:10:07.000 Imagine when you're that guy.

01:10:09.000 You're that guy.

01:10:10.000 I mean, this is the guy that allegedly killed Jamal Khashoggi for criticizing his regime.

01:10:16.000 Yes.

01:10:17.000 And have you ever seen that movie, The Dissident, which is...

01:10:19.000 An incredible movie, but Brian Fogel that details all the events that took place.

01:10:26.000 Oh, no, I haven't seen that.

01:10:27.000 Crazy.

01:10:28.000 But so he's the one that's in possession of this painting, and now it's currently on his yacht.

01:10:33.000 So this $450 million painting is on his yacht.

01:10:38.000 And so art fanatics are like, you can't have a painting on a yacht.

01:10:44.000 If it sinks.

01:10:45.000 Well, not just that.

01:10:46.000 The climate.

01:10:48.000 Oh, you're right.

01:10:49.000 The seawater.

01:10:50.000 Yes.

01:10:50.000 To have these paintings.

01:10:51.000 I mean, maybe he only had it for a day, or maybe he only had it to tell everybody he had it there.

01:10:55.000 Maybe he actually has it in a climate control room.

01:10:58.000 I imagine he would.

01:10:59.000 I mean, come on.

01:10:59.000 I don't know, man.

01:11:00.000 He's balling out of his mind.

01:11:01.000 He's buying $450 million paintings.

01:11:03.000 He might be paying on it right now.

01:11:04.000 But that's nothing to him.

01:11:06.000 He might do whatever he wants.

01:11:07.000 He can do whatever he wants.

01:11:08.000 If you've got the kind of money for a $450 million painting, But it might not be legit.

01:11:14.000 And apparently, so I go down a rabbit hole, apparently there is a massive market for illegitimate paintings, and people get robbed all the time.

01:11:23.000 And there was, in fact, a guy who was a master.

01:11:26.000 I believe there's a documentary about him.

01:11:29.000 There's a big one on Netflix about this right now.

01:11:31.000 I thought that's what you were getting at.

01:11:32.000 Oh, like the Master Forgers?

01:11:34.000 Well, there was a guy who was, that was his trade.

01:11:38.000 What he would do was make fake Picassos.

01:11:41.000 So he would make his own work, but in the style of Picasso, and they would claim that this was a lost Picasso.

01:11:50.000 Whoa.

01:11:51.000 And he sold these things for millions, millions of dollars.

01:11:55.000 This is the Netflix one.

01:11:56.000 This lady got... 1.00

01:11:56.000 Made you look. 1.00

01:11:57.000 They found she was selling fake shit for a long time. 1.00

01:12:00.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:12:01.000 I didn't...

01:12:02.000 Pessed a lot of people off.

01:12:03.000 I've not seen that one.

01:12:04.000 Oh, my God.

01:12:04.000 But there's a guy who was...

01:12:06.000 He did time, and he got released eventually.

01:12:09.000 And he did time for creating fake masterpieces.

01:12:13.000 And it's really crazy because the guy was insanely talented.

01:12:17.000 Right.

01:12:17.000 Like, his art was magnificent.

01:12:20.000 Right, right, right.

01:12:21.000 But it wasn't Michelangelo's.

01:12:24.000 But he conned people.

01:12:24.000 Yeah, he conned people.

01:12:25.000 I mean, the art was great, but he conned people.

01:12:28.000 It's weird.

01:12:29.000 My uncle said this to me once.

01:12:31.000 This is a really funny thing.

01:12:32.000 Because when I was a kid, I would pretend I brushed my teeth.

01:12:35.000 But I really didn't brush my teeth.

01:12:38.000 My uncle Vinny, who's a really interesting guy, he's a very creative guy, he's an artist.

01:12:42.000 He said, it's funny because I used to do the same thing, but eventually I realized I put so much effort into pretending that I brushed my teeth that I could have just brushed my teeth with that same amount of effort and I wouldn't have to pretend. 0.96

01:12:55.000 And I thought about it, I'm like, God damn, he's smart. 0.96

01:12:58.000 When I was five. 0.98

01:12:59.000 That's a really cool thing to say to a five-year-old.

01:13:02.000 It's like a reverse. 0.99

01:13:03.000 My uncle Vinny's cool as fuck. 0.99

01:13:06.000 He was always the cool uncle that everybody wished they had. 0.99

01:13:10.000 He drove an MG and he was an artist and a photographer.

01:13:15.000 Man, those types of people, they inspire me.

01:13:19.000 Actually, this is funny.

01:13:21.000 Kind of related, but I was just thinking about inspirational artists.

01:13:24.000 My friend, Victoria, who I had met a while ago, like loosely, she invited me to that NFT gallery thing, and she pulled me aside, it was like late at night, it was like on a Friday, last Friday, and she was like, I went to dinner and I missed the first night of the showing,

01:13:40.000 and I felt really bad, and I was like, do you have any videos?

01:13:42.000 Can you send me stuff? 0.98

01:13:43.000 I was trying to make up for it or whatever, and she was like, no, I don't have any of that shit. 0.99

01:13:47.000 Radio silence. 0.99

01:13:48.000 I'm playing video games.

01:13:49.000 And then she texts me.

01:13:51.000 She's like, oh, come on over to Frankie's house. 1.00

01:13:53.000 And I'm like, who's Frankie?

01:13:54.000 He's like, oh, he created I Love Comedy or I Heart Comedy.

01:13:57.000 And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

01:13:58.000 I'll check it out.

01:13:59.000 Quirky house.

01:14:00.000 Didn't want to go at first.

01:14:01.000 Then I went, show up.

01:14:03.000 She's a cybernetic artist. 1.00

01:14:05.000 She's like a cyber artist. 1.00

01:14:06.000 And she sold an NFT for 85 grand, actually, based off of a show that she did in Paris.

01:14:28.000 Oh, wow.

01:14:35.000 And so she pulls me aside and she's like, listen, and she was born in Russia, grew up partially in Latvia, and then London until about, I don't know, her mid-teens, and then started working with MIT at the MIT Experimental Lab.

01:14:49.000 I forget the official name of it.

01:14:52.000 And so she's had this crazy journey, but she pulls me aside and she goes, listen, I know that you didn't want to come initially, but you come from...

01:15:01.000 I don't know how she just kind of distilled this.

01:15:04.000 She goes, you come from the underground and it's really important for you to be in contact with counterculture because that's where you come from.

01:15:12.000 And even though you've infiltrated into mainstream, you have a mainstream accent, I know it's very important for you to maintain your You have a mainstream accent, she said?

01:15:21.000 No, no.

01:15:21.000 She said, I've accessed the mainstream or whatever.

01:15:26.000 And I was like, who is this person?

01:15:29.000 This is insane.

01:15:30.000 Because I've always kind of associated myself most with Anubis.

01:15:35.000 You know, because Anubis was like the watcher, the protector of the underworld, right?

01:15:40.000 So Anubis had access to the world of the living and the world of the dead or Charon or Hades or Rishkigal, whoever you want to call it.

01:15:47.000 And her saying that just blew my mind because I'm like, yeah, I love it.

01:15:53.000 I love going into the darkest spaces.

01:15:57.000 And then coming out and finding the amazing things that...

01:16:01.000 And hanging out with James Corden.

01:16:02.000 And hanging out with James Corden.

01:16:03.000 And then hanging out with James Corden talking to...

01:16:05.000 Asking a question of Pete Buttigieg.

01:16:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:09.000 It's awesome that I can modulate between these two different worlds.

01:16:13.000 And at this party, it was just filled with people who've had these intense lives.

01:16:17.000 That came from Russia, or came from Bosnia, or came from Africa, or whatever, that had to overcome all these obstacles.

01:16:25.000 But now they're doing well.

01:16:27.000 And now this NFT thing happens and now they're making money to fuel more of their art.

01:16:31.000 It's an interesting time.

01:16:33.000 It's so fascinating, this thing that people do where they create something and then other people get feelings off staring or listening or watching or whatever it is with their creation.

01:16:45.000 You're putting something.

01:16:49.000 There's an essence of your interpretation of the world and you're putting it into something.

01:16:54.000 And then somebody gets that thing and they go, oh, wow.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.97

01:16:58.000 Like, oh, that's fucking cool. 0.97

01:17:00.000 Man, yeah. 0.98

01:17:01.000 Which is why, like, modern art at, like, LACMA is so fucking offensive. 0.79

01:17:05.000 When you go to, you see, like, a plexiglass box on the ground, like, that's the piece. 1.00

01:17:10.000 And you're like, fuck you. 1.00

01:17:11.000 Yeah, yeah, totally. 1.00

01:17:11.000 Hey, fuck you. 1.00

01:17:12.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:17:13.000 Well, that's the thing, right?

01:17:14.000 It's like, it's so context-based, right? 1.00

01:17:16.000 So if you would have seen that piece, maybe when it was introduced and you understood the context of it, it is supposed to say, fuck you. 0.99

01:17:23.000 No, it's not. 1.00

01:17:23.000 It's a fucking hack. 1.00

01:17:26.000 They've hacked the system. 1.00

01:17:27.000 That's what I mean. 1.00

01:17:27.000 Sometimes artists do that on purpose because they're just saying, fuck you. 1.00

01:17:31.000 Because they're like, you just bought it, guys. 1.00

01:17:33.000 As long as you're doing other art that's real.

01:17:35.000 Of course.

01:17:36.000 I agree.

01:17:37.000 I need to see that you didn't just find a loophole.

01:17:40.000 No, I completely agree.

01:17:42.000 Well, check out Victoria Modesta's NFT that she sold.

01:17:48.000 It'll blow you away.

01:17:49.000 That is like...

01:17:51.000 The for real deal, like, she's an incredible artist.

01:17:53.000 Did you find the guy, there is a guy that is famous, like, see, like, a man arrested for fraudulent paintings.

01:18:03.000 No, that's what you wouldn't say.

01:18:05.000 Creating fraudulent masterpieces.

01:18:08.000 Oh, there you go.

01:18:11.000 Because his work...

01:18:12.000 Original fake masterpieces. 0.99

01:18:13.000 They had sold his stuff in auctions, and when you see his work, you're like, holy shit. 0.97

01:18:20.000 Like, it's amazing.

01:18:21.000 But, you know, he had said, like, these are lost Basquiat's, or how do you say his name?

01:18:26.000 Basquiat.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:28.000 These are lost Warhols.

01:18:29.000 I wonder, why didn't he just, like, say that, like, he's doing a conceptual series of, like, you know, extended works of masters? 0.99

01:18:36.000 Because he's a crook! 0.85

01:18:37.000 I mean, but it would have been so much more fun than not, I mean, like, why do the crook angle? 0.99

01:18:41.000 It's like, you still could have made a shit ton of money.

01:18:43.000 I know.

01:18:43.000 Not as much.

01:18:44.000 I agree for sure, but I like the fact that there's a guy like that out there. 0.99

01:18:50.000 There's something about it that's so strange because he's clearly a brilliant artist when you look at the guy's actual work, but he's also clearly a scumbag. 0.98

01:19:01.000 There's something about folly. 0.99

01:19:04.000 About human following.

01:19:06.000 I like it.

01:19:07.000 I like that people do things like that.

01:19:11.000 That like, oh, you're really into spending $25 million on a painting?

01:19:15.000 Guess what I have?

01:19:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:17.000 Let me help you out.

01:19:18.000 Let me alleviate you.

01:19:20.000 There are some of these people that just accumulate massive amounts of money and then they get really into having these prestigious works of art.

01:19:30.000 Whether or not they actually understand.

01:19:31.000 I'm like, is this the guy?

01:19:33.000 Inside the $80 million scandal that rocked the art world.

01:19:37.000 No, I think that's the same one that you were...

01:19:39.000 Maybe that's the documentary about it.

01:19:41.000 Is it?

01:19:42.000 That's a different dude.

01:19:44.000 Is that it?

01:19:44.000 Yeah, that is him.

01:19:45.000 I'm just a guy.

01:19:47.000 Yeah.

01:19:50.000 Yep.

01:19:51.000 Yeah.

01:19:52.000 Oh, wow.

01:19:53.000 Well, anyway.

01:19:54.000 I mean, that's insane.

01:19:56.000 You know, they do that with wine, too.

01:19:58.000 Do they?

01:19:59.000 There's an incredible documentary called Sour Grapes.

01:20:03.000 Yeah, okay, yeah.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, this is it.

01:20:06.000 Wow.

01:20:07.000 And there's more than one of these guys, by the way.

01:20:09.000 There's more than one of these guys that creates fake art.

01:20:12.000 Because if you're newly rich, you're some dude who runs a tech company, and all of a sudden you go to an IPO, and you sell, and you're worth a billion dollars now, and you're like, what? 0.98

01:20:24.000 And then you're like, I want a fucking cool painting! 0.53

01:20:27.000 And you don't know jack shit about art, and next thing you know you get connected to some other shady guy that you buy ecstasy from, and he knows a guy who has a Pollock for sale. 0.99

01:20:36.000 Yeah.

01:20:37.000 Oh, by the way, the Spirit Molecule guys, right?

01:20:42.000 You know those dudes, right?

01:20:43.000 Sure.

01:20:45.000 I just met with them just before.

01:20:47.000 Oh, no kidding.

01:20:48.000 Yeah.

01:20:48.000 Mitch.

01:20:49.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 Yeah, and the other guy.

01:20:51.000 Who was the other guy?

01:20:54.000 Oh.

01:20:54.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:20:55.000 That is crazy.

01:20:56.000 Yeah, so they want me to narrate the next one.

01:20:59.000 Oh, nice.

01:21:00.000 So I thought that was so bizarre that I'm meeting them before you, because I didn't put together that you were the original guy, so I was like, how weird is that?

01:21:08.000 I was the Rod Sterling of the DMT movie.

01:21:11.000 Yes, yes.

01:21:11.000 I can't wait to see it.

01:21:13.000 I'm so excited to see it.

01:21:14.000 But yeah, I thought that was pretty funny.

01:21:16.000 But yeah, they were talking about DMT, but I was talking about ketamine.

01:21:20.000 I've been doing ketamine and experimenting with ketamine lately, which has been...

01:21:26.000 So insane.

01:21:27.000 I mean, such an insane...

01:21:29.000 I don't know if you've ever experienced it.

01:21:31.000 No, I have not.

01:21:31.000 It's a dissociative.

01:21:34.000 So, I mean, when we were teenagers growing up in Montana, we didn't have access to any drugs, basically.

01:21:39.000 So we were doing Robitussin, which had dextromethorphan in it, which is also a dissociative.

01:21:45.000 And it can be very, very, very powerful.

01:21:49.000 I'm not condoning...

01:21:51.000 But as kids in the 80s, we were listening to Bauhaus and doing Robitussin.

01:21:59.000 Ketamine is interesting because a lot of friends are doing ketamine therapy.

01:22:03.000 But ketamine, I don't know.

01:22:05.000 It was just crazy.

01:22:06.000 We were talking about ketamine and DMT and there's a crossover point.

01:22:10.000 You know who was really into ketamine?

01:22:12.000 John Lilly.

01:22:13.000 John Lilly is the guy who created the isolation tank.

01:22:16.000 He's also a pioneer in interspecies communication.

01:22:19.000 He was working on communicating with dolphins.

01:22:22.000 Dolphins in Hawaii. 0.91

01:22:23.000 Yeah, and the experiment was defunded because the woman who was running the experiment was jerking off the dolphin. 1.00

01:22:30.000 Oh my god. 0.55

01:22:31.000 You know that story?

01:22:32.000 I don't remember that conclusion.

01:22:35.000 This is what happened.

01:22:36.000 The dolphins would get horny and they were distracted all the time.

01:22:40.000 They wouldn't concentrate. 0.99

01:22:41.000 So they just wanted to fuck. 0.99

01:22:44.000 And so she would masturbate the dolphins so that the dolphins would relax and then they could get some work done and then they would try to communicate with the dolphins. 0.99

01:22:54.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:22:54.000 Yes. 0.96

01:22:54.000 She was trying to get the dolphins to speak, but the problem is... 0.96

01:22:57.000 Right, it was legitimate.

01:22:58.000 Yes.

01:22:59.000 Well, listen, so is coming.

01:23:01.000 Yeah, of course.

01:23:01.000 It's a part of biology.

01:23:03.000 It's natural. 1.00

01:23:04.000 It's like we're just so fucked up and puritanical and filled with shame that we think there's something wrong with masturbating a dolphin in order to get it to comply. 0.99

01:23:11.000 But meanwhile, you know what's really wrong? 1.00

01:23:13.000 How about slavery of dolphins?

01:23:15.000 You're forcing this intelligent animal that may or may not be as smart as people into some weird subservient existence where you've got it in a pond.

01:23:25.000 It's crazy. 0.89

01:23:26.000 That is way crazier than jerking off the dolphin. 0.82

01:23:30.000 The fact that that is where we get outraged. 1.00

01:23:33.000 We get outraged that she's touching the dolphin's penis. 1.00

01:23:36.000 Not that she's made it a slave. 1.00

01:23:38.000 Yes, I know.

01:23:39.000 In order to try to get it to talk.

01:23:40.000 It's so crazy to me.

01:23:41.000 I know, I know.

01:23:42.000 And I'm sure it was the optics of it.

01:23:44.000 Like, once that got out there, like, well, we can't...

01:23:46.000 Exactly.

01:23:47.000 I'm pretty sure this was all in the 60s.

01:23:49.000 Right, which is even...

01:23:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:23:51.000 So, Lilly developed the sensory deprivation tank.

01:23:54.000 So, he was trying to figure out a way to separate the human body and all of the sensory input from consciousness.

01:24:03.000 Altered States.

01:24:04.000 Yes.

01:24:04.000 That is exactly what Altered States is based on.

01:24:06.000 It's based on Lilly.

01:24:08.000 Because Lilly was doing stuff that was so crazy, and he was taking all these insane psychedelic drugs.

01:24:14.000 They literally used him as the inspiration for Altered States.

01:24:17.000 That's why if you go to watch Altered States, and what's his name?

01:24:20.000 William Hurt?

01:24:21.000 I think that's him, yeah.

01:24:23.000 When William Hurt, in the beginning, is in the early developmental stages of Lily's tank, which was essentially regular water, and he had a scuba helmet on.

01:24:33.000 Oh, that's right.

01:24:34.000 And then the water is heated to the same temperature as the skin, and there's all these tubes that provide him oxygen.

01:24:40.000 He's standing upright.

01:24:42.000 They turn it into this thing where he's lying in it, which is like a regular sensory deprivation tank.

01:24:48.000 But all of that is created by Lilly.

01:24:50.000 Lilly wrote a bunch of books on it, like The Center of the Cyclone, The Deep Self, and he even, one of his books, I forget which one, you can actually buy, and there's design Instructions for building your own sensory deprivation tank with like pond liners and waterbed heaters and the whole deal.

01:25:12.000 But Lily used to take intramuscular ketamine. 0.99

01:25:15.000 So he would just blast himself with ketamine and lie down there and fucking... 0.99

01:25:21.000 Oh my God. 1.00

01:25:22.000 And that was his thing.

01:25:23.000 I mean, you know, I don't know.

01:25:25.000 I took an accident, not accidental, but like a very large dose, which, I don't know, put me in full ego death.

01:25:33.000 And all I can say is that it put me into what I like to call the paradoxical state, which is...

01:25:40.000 There's nothing to compare yourself to anything anymore, so there is no you.

01:25:45.000 And so you're just experiencing, not experiencing simultaneously, whatever.

01:25:51.000 And it's very fractal.

01:25:53.000 Everything is fractal.

01:25:54.000 It's like anything that you try to cling on to mentally, you think you know what it is, and then it just is not that anymore.

01:26:00.000 So your mind has to just surrender completely to this constant fractal onslaught.

01:26:05.000 And what was interesting about that is that it felt like To me, in my mind, it's like, oh, this is the source of reality.

01:26:14.000 If you're getting close to the source of how reality is generated and perceived, essentially that's as close as you can get to being aware of reality itself, in essence.

01:26:27.000 And that feeling, I mean, I didn't know where it was.

01:26:30.000 It's like you're nowhere.

01:26:32.000 And to take that and then put that in a sensory deprivation tank...

01:26:37.000 I mean, that's insane.

01:26:38.000 I mean, that's like...

01:26:39.000 I don't know what that would do because I already felt like I was just gone anyways.

01:26:42.000 I didn't know what position my body was.

01:26:45.000 I didn't know what a body was.

01:26:46.000 I wasn't in my room.

01:26:46.000 My eyes were open and I could see nothing that was familiar at all.

01:26:50.000 And I didn't know what familiar was.

01:26:52.000 But...

01:26:53.000 To mix those things.

01:26:54.000 I don't know.

01:26:55.000 It's a very interesting feeling because it's also very weirdly pragmatic.

01:27:00.000 On lower doses, it's pragmatic.

01:27:03.000 Like, let's say you have a lot of trauma going on.

01:27:05.000 That's why they're using it for therapy.

01:27:06.000 You can actually sign up and do legal therapy with intramuscular injections of ketamine.

01:27:12.000 Whitney Cummings is doing it with a mister, a nasal mister. 0.99

01:27:16.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:17.000 Oh, Mr. Mr. Wow.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting.

01:27:21.000 A lot of my friends, I don't know, I've had some crazy breakthroughs on it.

01:27:25.000 Because it's like, I have hang-ups.

01:27:28.000 We all have hang-ups, right?

01:27:29.000 It's like all this programming.

01:27:30.000 I grew up Catholic, so I've got a lot of things that I'm like, if I reveal that, everyone's going to know that I'm a blah, blah, blah, or whatever.

01:27:38.000 And when you're on ketamine, it's like...

01:27:40.000 That thing comes up, especially when you're more conscious, like functional level ketamine.

01:27:45.000 It comes up and you're like, oh, it's just this.

01:27:48.000 And then you tell your friend and they're like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't worry about that.

01:27:51.000 And you're like, okay, cool.

01:27:52.000 And then you're moving on.

01:27:53.000 It's like the most...

01:27:54.000 It allows you to get past things.

01:27:56.000 Yeah.

01:27:57.000 It's empathic.

01:27:59.000 So if you're doing it with someone, you feel like you're sharing an experience together.

01:28:02.000 But then it's also kind of slightly like you're aliens.

01:28:06.000 Piloting this body is just like...

01:28:08.000 It's just a robot to get you through this world.

01:28:11.000 Oh, wow.

01:28:11.000 And you're just like piloting it.

01:28:13.000 When you get up to get something, it's like, I'm going to get water now.

01:28:15.000 Excellent idea.

01:28:16.000 Would you like some?

01:28:17.000 I would like some.

01:28:18.000 Here's water.

01:28:19.000 Thank you very much.

01:28:20.000 Consciousness is crazy.

01:28:22.000 It's the weirdest.

01:28:24.000 Are you scared of your relationship right now?

01:28:26.000 Yes, I am scared that they don't understand me.

01:28:28.000 Well, that's too bad.

01:28:29.000 You know what?

01:28:29.000 I can't control that.

01:28:31.000 These revelations happen.

01:28:33.000 I'm not saying it's a fix-all.

01:28:35.000 Do you remember the revelations?

01:28:36.000 Yeah, very much.

01:28:38.000 So it's different than DMT? The memories are more easily accessible?

01:28:42.000 They are.

01:28:43.000 I mean, not everything, but definitely there's things that I remember about it.

01:28:48.000 And it definitely, I think, helps to cause, I don't know if it's, you know, I'm not a scientist, but it's not like neural pathways, but it definitely alters the way you approach and think about the things that you're having issues with.

01:29:00.000 Neil Brennan was the first person that told me he did it therapeutically.

01:29:03.000 He went to a doctor, and he was getting IV ketamine, and he was tripping balls.

01:29:09.000 And I remember him telling me in the hallway of the Comedy Store, you know Neil. 0.80

01:29:13.000 Yes.

01:29:13.000 Neil's an intense guy.

01:29:14.000 He's like, and I'm sitting there doing this, and I'm like, hey, I'm really fucking high.

01:29:20.000 Like, this is crazy. 0.77

01:29:21.000 This is like a full-on psychedelic trip in the doctor's office.

01:29:26.000 Oh my gosh.

01:29:27.000 Which is extra trippy.

01:29:29.000 Extra trippy.

01:29:30.000 It's extra trippy because you're like, this is a doctor's office.

01:29:32.000 And then you also get like, whoa.

01:29:35.000 You're in interdimensional traveling.

01:29:37.000 Yes.

01:29:37.000 Yeah.

01:29:38.000 That's, yeah.

01:29:39.000 DMT, I've been too chicken to do the second hit, so.

01:29:42.000 Really?

01:29:42.000 Yeah, twice I tried it and I, because you know, you go zero to peaking on acid in three seconds.

01:29:48.000 The first hit.

01:29:49.000 Right.

01:29:49.000 And then you're supposed to take another hit?

01:29:51.000 You're supposed to go three.

01:29:52.000 You're supposed to go three, yeah, I know.

01:29:53.000 But my friend was like.

01:29:54.000 I always found it's It's easy after the first hit.

01:29:56.000 You know, it's also the smoke.

01:29:58.000 It's so accurate.

01:29:58.000 It's gross.

01:29:59.000 The grossest shit. 1.00

01:30:00.000 So I was like, ugh, I'm breathing in plastic. 1.00

01:30:02.000 And then like, now I'm really high.

01:30:04.000 Now I'm supposed to breathe in more plastic.

01:30:05.000 I just, I don't know.

01:30:06.000 I couldn't do it.

01:30:07.000 But the ketamine, for whatever reason, the dose that I took, it took me to that.

01:30:12.000 It wasn't planning on it necessarily.

01:30:13.000 I knew I was going to get high, but I didn't know I was going to go that high.

01:30:17.000 That was different.

01:30:18.000 And it was intramuscular as well?

01:30:19.000 No, I had to snort it, unfortunately.

01:30:22.000 I don't like snorting.

01:30:23.000 It's such a junky feeling.

01:30:25.000 I don't snort anything.

01:30:26.000 I've never snorted a drug.

01:30:27.000 Yeah, it's the only time.

01:30:29.000 I don't think so.

01:30:29.000 Let me think.

01:30:31.000 There's that Ibogaine?

01:30:33.000 No, I've never known a drug.

01:30:35.000 What's the one that they blow it into your nostrils?

01:30:38.000 Yeah, it's a snuff, right?

01:30:40.000 They blow it up your nose.

01:30:41.000 Yeah, which, you know, I don't know.

01:30:42.000 It just seems like dirty.

01:30:44.000 I think what I'm going to try to do is I'm going to try to see if I can get involved in some kind of a study or whatever.

01:30:49.000 I think I'm on my last leg of it.

01:30:51.000 It was just like a nice little experimental period over a couple months.

01:30:55.000 But I think I learned a lot, and it reminded me a lot of Robitussin, which When we were on, you know, I remember peeking on Robitussin and then my friend going, I have a little bit of weed.

01:31:06.000 You have some weed?

01:31:07.000 Let's try some. 0.98

01:31:07.000 And then we smoked some weed and we just fucking left. 0.98

01:31:11.000 I know that it's not supposed to be addictive and it's not supposed to be dangerous, but I've heard of people getting addicted to it and wind up going into rehab and I'm pretty sure I knew a guy who died from it. 0.85

01:31:22.000 There was a fighter who was really into ketamine and I remember because a friend of mine went to visit him in rehab and he actually wound up dying.

01:31:32.000 Well, it does elevate your heart rate.

01:31:34.000 So if you have some kind of a heart condition or something like that and you take a lot of it and you're not giving yourself a break or whatever, yeah.

01:31:43.000 So if you just keep hammering it all the time.

01:31:45.000 If you keep hammering it, you're just going to be spiking your heart rate all the time.

01:31:48.000 I know that.

01:31:49.000 I mean, there'll be doctors out there that'll be like, well, actually.

01:31:51.000 But I just know that.

01:31:53.000 And then also liver toxicity as well.

01:31:55.000 And this is like chronic use, right?

01:31:58.000 But it doesn't have, it's definitely not the type of high where you're like, I can't wait to do that again.

01:32:04.000 Definitely if you take a small amount of it and you're like, oh, I'm feeling pretty good.

01:32:08.000 Do you want to take a little bit more?

01:32:10.000 Or like I'm in Berlin.

01:32:11.000 That was one of the first times I did it.

01:32:13.000 It's like you're in Berlin in a club and you go to a dirty stall bathroom with five people and someone pulls out a key and I'm like...

01:32:18.000 Well, I guess this is how you do drugs.

01:32:20.000 You know, whatever.

01:32:21.000 When in Rome, but like they just do tiny bumps of it and they re-up like every 30 minutes or something like that.

01:32:27.000 And I did that a few times.

01:32:29.000 I'm like, I kind of get it.

01:32:30.000 But to me, it's a waste of the opportunity.

01:32:33.000 To go deep.

01:32:34.000 Yeah, to go.

01:32:34.000 Because for me, it's like if I'm doing anything, even if I'm doing an edible or if I'm smoking weed or whatever it is, those are the only things I do.

01:32:42.000 I do weed.

01:32:43.000 And recently, occasionally ketamine, but mostly just weed.

01:32:46.000 I don't drink or anything.

01:32:47.000 So if I'm going to do something, I'm looking at it as an experiment.

01:32:51.000 This is an opportunity to learn something about myself and to see what I can notice and what I can bring back from it.

01:32:58.000 That's the thing is you really can learn something.

01:33:01.000 And it sounds so trite, right?

01:33:03.000 It sounds so cliche.

01:33:05.000 Like, yeah, I'm doing psychedelic drugs to learn about myself, man.

01:33:09.000 Yes.

01:33:10.000 You know, doesn't it?

01:33:11.000 It sounds fake.

01:33:12.000 It sounds kind of fake, doesn't it?

01:33:13.000 It does.

01:33:14.000 But you can.

01:33:15.000 You really can.

01:33:15.000 But you can't always.

01:33:17.000 No.

01:33:17.000 And you got to really go into it with the intention of actually trying to learn something and then be open-minded about it.

01:33:23.000 You try to bring something back.

01:33:25.000 Well, it's vulnerability.

01:33:26.000 I think that's the biggest thing for me that I notice.

01:33:31.000 It's just you open up and suddenly you're hanging with your friend and you're seeing them in a way that you've never seen them before.

01:33:38.000 And this release of compassionate understanding.

01:33:43.000 For me, my favorite part is when it's silly.

01:33:47.000 To me, silliness is, like, the greatest, most enlightened state that you can be in. 0.51

01:33:52.000 Right, yeah. 0.90

01:33:53.000 Where it's just like, it's like, oh, you know, like, we're high on acid and see, like, a bush and it looks like a Muppet, you know, or whatever, and you're just like, look, it's a Muppet!

01:34:01.000 And they're like, oh my god, it is a Muppet!

01:34:02.000 Is it a Muppet?

01:34:03.000 What is it?

01:34:03.000 I don't know.

01:34:04.000 Let's check it out.

01:34:05.000 You know, like, adventure, goofy silliness, like, that to me is, like, such a load off, because you're like, with all these other people, you're being, because silliness, being silly in front of people, And with people is very vulnerable.

01:34:18.000 People don't necessarily think of it that way, but it is being very vulnerable.

01:34:22.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:34:23.000 And vulnerability is...

01:34:24.000 That's why I like doing comedy.

01:34:26.000 Comedy is like, here you are on stage.

01:34:28.000 It's one of the only art forms.

01:34:29.000 You go up on stage and if it's just you, stand up.

01:34:32.000 You're on stage.

01:34:33.000 That's all it is.

01:34:34.000 It's just a human saying some words that are setting up expectations and subverting the expectation and causing a momentary, zoomed out, joyous, paradoxical laughing state.

01:34:46.000 Yeah.

01:34:46.000 And that's it.

01:34:47.000 That's it.

01:34:48.000 And I love it.

01:34:48.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:34:49.000 And it actually changes the state of mind of the people that are viewing it.

01:34:54.000 It's an art form that changes your state.

01:34:55.000 Yes, 100%.

01:34:57.000 And it elicits a response.

01:34:58.000 It's one of the only art forms where it requires a response.

01:35:02.000 That's true, yeah.

01:35:02.000 It actually does, yeah.

01:35:03.000 Otherwise, it's not going well.

01:35:05.000 Right.

01:35:05.000 Or it is going well until it's not going, or whatever, you know?

01:35:08.000 Yeah.

01:35:09.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:35:10.000 Yeah, because music is different.

01:35:11.000 Like, if someone's playing a beat, people are like... 0.99

01:35:14.000 A comedian gets up on stage and says, so I was out the other day and I was talking so-and-so and no laughter and they're like, ah, fuck. 0.97

01:35:21.000 And it's the marked contrast when you try something that's not funny. 0.98

01:35:25.000 Like every now and then you have a thought and you're like, let me just see if this one comes out good.

01:35:29.000 And it comes out of your mouth and it's like...

01:35:32.000 Blah!

01:35:33.000 There's nothing there.

01:35:34.000 And you're like, alright.

01:35:35.000 It just wasn't there.

01:35:37.000 I thought there was something there.

01:35:38.000 I swung.

01:35:39.000 I know.

01:35:39.000 But it's great, too, when the comedian comments on it, right?

01:35:42.000 I do a lot of weirdo comedy shows, like all comedy shows or whatever, like Natasha Leggero and those kinds of people.

01:35:50.000 It's just I love it when they're like going and they're like, nope, not so much.

01:35:53.000 Okay, cool.

01:35:54.000 Moving on.

01:35:55.000 And you're like, okay, we're all in it together.

01:35:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:58.000 Well, it's the recognition that what you're doing is you can't really grasp it.

01:36:03.000 Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not, particularly when you're doing something that's improvisational and you're taking a leap.

01:36:10.000 You're always taking a leap. 0.99

01:36:11.000 And for me as an improviser, I love that once you find a vein, essentially, you find a vein and you can feel people leaning in and you're like, oh, this is gonna be so stupid. 1.00

01:36:22.000 Oh, this is gonna be so stupid. 0.99

01:36:24.000 Oh, this is gonna be completely unnecessary. 1.00

01:36:26.000 I don't need to do that.

01:36:27.000 I'm gonna spend way too long doing this.

01:36:29.000 Now I'm going to go over here.

01:36:30.000 Now I'm going to do that.

01:36:31.000 It's like, if it's bubbling, it's just jazz.

01:36:34.000 You know, it's the best.

01:36:35.000 It's wild that art comes in different feels.

01:36:38.000 Like, there's different feels to art.

01:36:40.000 Like, we were talking about wine earlier.

01:36:42.000 Like, the creation of wine is an art.

01:36:45.000 It's a weird...

01:36:45.000 100%.

01:36:46.000 Art that takes a long time because you have to grow the grapes.

01:36:50.000 Do you know Maynard from Tool?

01:36:52.000 Yes.

01:36:53.000 I mean, I don't know him, but I know the group.

01:36:54.000 He's a great guy.

01:36:55.000 I love him.

01:36:56.000 He's a really good dude, but he has a vineyard.

01:36:59.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:37:00.000 Caduceus Vineyard.

01:37:01.000 He makes great wine.

01:37:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:37:03.000 Like, really good wine, and he's 100% dedicated to it. 0.86

01:37:06.000 Sick.

01:37:06.000 Shout out to Maynard.

01:37:07.000 So he describes in depth the process of creating this wine and how the soil has to be right and has to be watered a certain amount and there's a certain amount of, you know, like the acidity.

01:37:22.000 He does it all in Arizona.

01:37:25.000 That's where he grows his grapes.

01:37:26.000 He does the whole process, smashing the grapes and putting it in the barrels and fermenting it and adding all the stuff to it and the whole deal.

01:37:35.000 It's amazing.

01:37:36.000 It's amazing, but it's an art form.

01:37:38.000 And obviously, he's from Tool and Pussifer and A Perfect Circle.

01:37:45.000 He's a musician as well.

01:37:47.000 So he does other art that's more instantaneous and instantaneously gets into your body.

01:37:54.000 But he's also doing this long burn, this slow burn art, which is wine.

01:38:00.000 Yes.

01:38:01.000 And we're talking earlier about frauds.

01:38:04.000 There's this documentary called Sour Grapes, where this guy got in tight with all these wine people, and at first he starts buying really great wine at auctions, and then selling it to other people.

01:38:19.000 He was in possession of some really rare, great wines, and then somewhere along the line he becomes a fraud.

01:38:26.000 And he starts making fake wine.

01:38:28.000 So he starts taking wines and mixing them and creating these fake labels and then selling wine as like, you know, a 1924 this.

01:38:36.000 He even has wine from like Thomas Jefferson.

01:38:39.000 It's not really Thomas Jefferson's wine, like in these ancient bottles.

01:38:43.000 And he did all of this in his house.

01:38:46.000 And they busted him, and the guy had labels and all these bottles of wine and formulas written down of add a one-third this and two-thirds that, and he would add certain things to the wine to get the wine to taste similar to this. 0.95

01:39:01.000 That sucks.

01:39:02.000 You know how you say you have a really great ear? 0.99

01:39:04.000 Yeah.

01:39:05.000 This guy, Rudy, in this documentary had apparently an amazing wine palette. 1.00

01:39:10.000 So he would be able to taste these notes in wine that a moron like me would not get. 0.98

01:39:17.000 I actually went to a wine tasting with this guy. 1.00

01:39:21.000 What?

01:39:21.000 With this guy, yes.

01:39:22.000 With this guy who's in jail currently and he's gonna get deported.

01:39:26.000 I think he's from Indonesia.

01:39:29.000 He's getting deported. 0.99

01:39:30.000 But he's in some fucking jail in Colorado right now. 0.98

01:39:33.000 I went to a wine tasting with him because my friend Is a very big wine connoisseur, and he was in with this guy before the guy started selling the fake wine. 0.99

01:39:43.000 So they were a part of this wine lovers club sort of thing, and they would get together, and it was my friend's birthday, so I go there.

01:39:50.000 And I remember the guy from that. 0.93

01:39:52.000 So I saw the documentary, and I'm like, fuck, I think I know that guy. 0.84

01:39:55.000 So I, you know, asked my friend, I'm like, did I meet this guy? 0.98

01:39:58.000 He goes, yeah, he was at my party. 0.99

01:39:59.000 I'm like, fuck, that's crazy. 1.00

01:40:01.000 Ugh. 1.00

01:40:01.000 So this guy made millions and millions and millions of dollars selling people fake wine. 1.00

01:40:08.000 And at the end of the documentary, they're destroying crates and cases of this fake wine.

01:40:14.000 But it's real wine.

01:40:15.000 Right, of course.

01:40:16.000 If I had it, I'd be like, this is the best wine I've ever had.

01:40:18.000 Because I don't know anything about wine.

01:40:19.000 I just know what kind of tastes good.

01:40:21.000 But to him...

01:40:23.000 He had the ability to trick these folks.

01:40:25.000 But what's interesting in the documentary is some people weren't tricked.

01:40:29.000 He sold some real wine, apparently, but some of it was fake.

01:40:34.000 And there's one scene in the movie, spoiler alert, where this guy who was friends with him was like, this is one of the real bottles that Rudy sold me.

01:40:41.000 And these guys are tasting it and he's like, oh yeah, this is great, this is great.

01:40:44.000 And then one guy gets a hold of it and he goes like, When was this bottle opened?

01:40:49.000 And then like two hours ago, he's like, tasted it.

01:40:51.000 He goes, this is fake. 1.00

01:40:52.000 This is bullshit. 0.99

01:40:53.000 And he starts saying that this does not have nearly the vivacity of this other wine. 1.00

01:40:57.000 Oh, sick.

01:40:59.000 But it's like, what are you tasting?

01:41:01.000 What are you experiencing? 0.97

01:41:03.000 How subtle is the difference between real and fake that these guys who have fucking wine cellars in their homes where they have thousands of dollars in wines and they're so invested in this hobby they have, they can't tell. 0.95

01:41:17.000 But you can tell? 0.96

01:41:19.000 What are we talking about here?

01:41:21.000 What is going on?

01:41:23.000 Again, it goes down to that fake music.

01:41:26.000 It's like if you played someone playing a piece on a real piano.

01:41:30.000 But it's not because you're robbing someone.

01:41:33.000 You're robbing them.

01:41:34.000 But the mechanism of identification.

01:41:36.000 The way the guy got busted is one of the Koch brothers.

01:41:40.000 Bought four million dollars worth of wine from him.

01:41:43.000 And it was fake.

01:41:45.000 So he had four million dollars worth of fake wine.

01:41:47.000 And some of it was like Thomas Jefferson bottles. 1.00

01:41:49.000 Shit was like a hundred thousand dollars a bottle. 1.00

01:41:52.000 Like crazy stuff. 0.99

01:41:54.000 And so this guy has this like immense wine cellar.

01:41:57.000 He's a wine collector.

01:41:58.000 And he got duped.

01:41:59.000 The documentary is incredible because this guy comes from France.

01:42:03.000 To the auction to show them that even on their pamphlet, the catalog, these wines were never created.

01:42:12.000 They don't exist.

01:42:13.000 We never made a magnum in this year with this vineyard.

01:42:21.000 This is fake.

01:42:21.000 You're selling a fake bottle of wine here.

01:42:23.000 This is fake.

01:42:25.000 The year is wrong.

01:42:26.000 Where it's sold is wrong.

01:42:28.000 The spelling is incorrect.

01:42:30.000 Wow.

01:42:31.000 But they had ancient labels.

01:42:32.000 They made the labels dirty and they made them look old. 0.99

01:42:35.000 It's fucking wild. 0.99

01:42:36.000 Just theater. 0.99

01:42:37.000 But it's also wild how these people were so into this thing that was almost intangible.

01:42:46.000 Like the palette.

01:42:48.000 And so many of them were sucked into it.

01:42:52.000 It makes sense.

01:42:52.000 I mean, yeah.

01:42:53.000 I mean, take advantage of people's passion.

01:42:56.000 I mean, like, how many times has that happened?

01:42:57.000 You know, you could get sold all kinds of things.

01:42:59.000 Here's an original vintage whatever engine, or here's a whatever.

01:43:03.000 And then people are like, yeah, yeah.

01:43:04.000 They want it so bad, and they're passionate about it because they're nerds about it.

01:43:09.000 But they're not nerds in that, like, hyper expertise.

01:43:12.000 Expert way. 0.99

01:43:14.000 And I guess probably some people are sitting on some fake shit, but they're completely happy. 0.99

01:43:19.000 So ultimately, if they don't know it's fake, they might still be really happy, I guess. 1.00

01:43:24.000 But to take advantage of people that way, obviously, is fucking low. 0.96

01:43:29.000 Make a show about it. 0.91

01:43:30.000 Yeah, the documentary's amazing.

01:43:32.000 You should see it.

01:43:33.000 It's really good.

01:43:34.000 It details how these people got duped and how this world is so odd.

01:43:39.000 The world of the wine collector, it's a strange world, man.

01:43:44.000 Well, it's tough.

01:43:45.000 And also, you can take that to other types of food and things like that, where people are like, well, this is an ancient blah, blah, blah.

01:43:52.000 Remember, what was that movie, The Freshman?

01:43:55.000 Remember that with...

01:43:57.000 Dustin Hoffman?

01:43:58.000 Matthew Broderick.

01:43:59.000 Oh, oh, oh.

01:44:01.000 And who was in Apocalypse Now? 0.89

01:44:04.000 The crazy guy who goes crazy who shaved his head.

01:44:07.000 Martin Sheen? 0.99

01:44:08.000 Oh, no.

01:44:08.000 Marlon Brando?

01:44:09.000 Yeah, Marlon Brando.

01:44:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:11.000 Apocalypse Now, sorry.

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 Yeah, and so they're both in it.

01:44:15.000 And he plays like a godfather type.

01:44:17.000 And then they have this business where they're taking exotic animals and they're making culinary events, like underground secret, made from the rarest animals, endangered species or whatever.

01:44:29.000 And everybody's super appalled, but then you find out that they're just faking it.

01:44:33.000 Like with like chicken and beef, but like preparing it differently.

01:44:37.000 Saying it's gorilla.

01:44:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:38.000 Which is kind of like a reversal.

01:44:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:41.000 Like in a way it's kind of Robin Hood-y because it's like, well, they're enriching themselves still, but at least they're not actually doing the thing.

01:44:47.000 They're not really supposed to eat gorilla.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, but then you have people believing that they are eating.

01:44:52.000 Like they're stoked to eat endangered animals.

01:44:55.000 I think that does go on, though.

01:44:57.000 There really are these clubs.

01:44:59.000 I'm trying to remember this.

01:45:00.000 There's an article...

01:45:01.000 Was it in Vanity Fair?

01:45:04.000 I forget where the article was, but there was an article about this club that meets and they'll eat exotic, endangered animals. 0.97

01:45:11.000 Goddammit.

01:45:12.000 Yeah.

01:45:13.000 Well, that is one of the reasons why rhino horn is so valuable.

01:45:19.000 Rhino horn is valuable and it's particularly valuable in some circles of elite people in Asia because they know that rhinos are endangered.

01:45:30.000 And, you know, although it supposedly has, like, it gives you hard-ons or something like that.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:36.000 It's aphrodisiac.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, but it doesn't really.

01:45:38.000 No.

01:45:39.000 But what it does do is show everybody that you have the means to acquire something that is incredibly illegal and very difficult to get.

01:45:47.000 So they murder rhinos just for their horn. 0.84

01:45:51.000 And the horn is virtually useless.

01:45:53.000 It's a fingernail.

01:45:55.000 It's like keratin.

01:45:56.000 It's like hair.

01:45:57.000 And that's what it is.

01:45:58.000 And it's molded into this thing.

01:45:59.000 They'll take it and make a tea out of this.

01:46:01.000 And they'll all sit around and drink it.

01:46:03.000 Like, look at us drinking rhino horn. 1.00

01:46:05.000 They're just symbolizing their ruthless capitalist instincts that they can acquire this fucking rhino. 1.00

01:46:12.000 And that's the same thing with tiger dicks and shit. 1.00

01:46:15.000 They'll eat tiger dicks. 1.00

01:46:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:46:16.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:46:17.000 It's just like, just knock it off, guys. 1.00

01:46:19.000 I know.

01:46:20.000 It's like unnecessary.

01:46:22.000 But just evil.

01:46:23.000 I mean, how many rhinos are left?

01:46:25.000 Man, you know, that reminds me of like, it was like one thing I wanted to mention.

01:46:29.000 I know we've been talking for a while, but like, you know, the whole like, and I'm not necessarily saying this because it's politics.

01:46:36.000 It's not about politics.

01:46:37.000 It's just about something to think about.

01:46:39.000 But it reminds me of like that mindset of like, if someone, if a politician is It's essentially just spewing a bunch of fireworks and they begin any sentence with, well, Democrats, well, Republicans, that's how they're starting anything.

01:46:56.000 It's completely worthless.

01:46:57.000 It's like, are you solving a problem?

01:47:01.000 Are you attempting to work with as many people that are right to solve the problem as possible in order to solve problems for as many people as possible?

01:47:08.000 That's the only criteria for the job.

01:47:10.000 Anything outside of that is completely unnecessary.

01:47:13.000 So I'm going to always try to choose people that are into solving problems, not worrying about getting reelected necessarily.

01:47:22.000 I know that's a part of it.

01:47:23.000 I know what you're saying.

01:47:24.000 But you know what I'm saying.

01:47:25.000 I want someone who wants to solve the problem.

01:47:27.000 And I want someone who gets...

01:47:29.000 It's like, what's your idea?

01:47:30.000 Okay, cool.

01:47:31.000 Let's aggregate that and let's solve this problem.

01:47:33.000 And I know that politics is a whatever in our form, but...

01:47:36.000 I'm just not into it, and I'm so fucking tired of it.

01:47:39.000 Every time I read an article, there's a video about whatever this, that someone complaining about this, well, the Republicans are trying to, you know, and the right, well, they think that they, well, they think they can solve it. 1.00

01:47:52.000 It's like, why don't you stop, shut the fuck up and stop complaining about shit, and why don't you, like, solve some shit? 1.00

01:47:57.000 How about that? 1.00

01:47:59.000 Yeah, Reggie Watts for president!

01:48:01.000 Reggie! 0.83

01:48:02.000 Reggie 2024, let's go! 1.00

01:48:06.000 Fuck your party. 1.00

01:48:07.000 The Joe Rogan experience. 1.00

01:48:09.000 Yeah, that's what he's going to say in quotes, fuck your party. 1.00

01:48:12.000 Yeah, fuck your party. 1.00

01:48:14.000 Solutions only. 1.00

01:48:16.000 Solutions only.

01:48:16.000 No fireworks.

01:48:18.000 By the way, who did that Joe Rogan experience vocal?

01:48:22.000 I think it's a digital video, a digital audio thing.

01:48:27.000 Redband made it a long time ago, and I think it's like one of those things where you can get like your Apple to speak in a language.

01:48:37.000 It's just like a text-to-speech synthesizer.

01:48:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:39.000 That's so great.

01:48:40.000 It sounds really, it sounds convincing.

01:48:43.000 Well, it's like the lady who gives you...

01:48:45.000 When you use navigation, what voice do you use?

01:48:48.000 Oh, sometimes I switch it to Australian.

01:48:52.000 They have now South African, Australian, English.

01:48:57.000 I think they have New Zealand accent, too.

01:49:00.000 But there's so many of them.

01:49:02.000 I don't know.

01:49:02.000 I end up just like...

01:49:03.000 And then I change it to male, to like, what's that like?

01:49:06.000 Or whatever.

01:49:07.000 My wife had my kids do all the voices for Waze.

01:49:13.000 So she has, when she uses Waze, it's one of my daughters going, turn left! 1.00

01:49:19.000 Are you serious?

01:49:19.000 You can do that?

01:49:20.000 Yeah, you can do that.

01:49:21.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:49:22.000 Yeah, it's really dope.

01:49:22.000 I've always wanted to do a voice pack.

01:49:24.000 It's really cool.

01:49:25.000 So when we're driving, if we're using her phone and Waze, it'll use my kids' voices to tell us where we're going.

01:49:32.000 Hey, Dad, turn left!

01:49:34.000 Warning, police ahead.

01:49:37.000 It's pretty cool.

01:49:39.000 Ah, that's exciting.

01:49:40.000 I've always wanted to do that.

01:49:41.000 Because obviously you heard about like, you know, whatever, Darth Vader.

01:49:44.000 Yeah, but you can get like one of your friends to do it.

01:49:46.000 I love it.

01:49:47.000 If you have like a good friend that would be into doing that for you, maybe you could do it for them.

01:49:51.000 I would totally do it.

01:49:52.000 I would offer doing that for people.

01:49:53.000 Yeah, that'd be a cool thing.

01:49:55.000 Like if you're driving and your best friend is going, hey man, turn right.

01:49:59.000 And you're like, all right.

01:50:00.000 Like, it'll make you kind of feel good.

01:50:01.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:50:02.000 I would so do that.

01:50:04.000 Well, you know, back in the day, like, you could do that for your phone.

01:50:07.000 You know, like, smartphones before Apple, like, Nokia's or whatever?

01:50:10.000 Like, you could replace everything.

01:50:13.000 All the chimes, the notifications, the alarms.

01:50:17.000 You could just choose whatever you wanted it to be.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, with a WAV file or something, right?

01:50:19.000 Yeah, with a WAV file.

01:50:20.000 And it's either you recording or you just, like, sample something.

01:50:23.000 Yeah.

01:50:24.000 Like, I kind of want that to come back.

01:50:26.000 But it's because it's more exciting to have a personalized device.

01:50:28.000 Yeah.

01:50:28.000 As opposed to...

01:50:30.000 Yeah.

01:50:31.000 But it's like, that's the argument of Android versus Apple, right?

01:50:36.000 Like, Android will allow you to change and alter so much more.

01:50:41.000 You could fidget with things and tweak, whereas Apple comes, it's just kind of like more user-friendly right out of the box and smoother, but not much anymore.

01:50:53.000 Well, it's pretty close.

01:50:54.000 That's close.

01:50:55.000 It's like Porsche versus Ford.

01:50:56.000 That's how I look at it.

01:50:58.000 Really?

01:50:59.000 So Android's Ford.

01:51:00.000 So Android's Ford.

01:51:01.000 So Ford, there's like tons of aftermarket parts, right, that you can do.

01:51:05.000 And arguably there is that for Porsche, too.

01:51:07.000 But Porsche, like when you buy a 911, you're like, this is the 911 that you bought.

01:51:12.000 That's what it was engineered and designed for, and you kind of just stick with it.

01:51:15.000 Right.

01:51:16.000 Because that's how it's made.

01:51:17.000 So they're like, no, we made it, and it's done.

01:51:20.000 Whereas a Ford, if you got a Ford Camaro or something like that, you're like, I'm gonna mod it out, I'm gonna trick it out.

01:51:25.000 Ford doesn't make Camaros.

01:51:26.000 I'm sorry, I apologize, I apologize.

01:51:28.000 Ford Mustang.

01:51:30.000 No, but what's the other one?

01:51:32.000 The Ford...

01:51:33.000 GT? I'm just in so much trouble with car guys right now.

01:51:37.000 What if Ford doesn't make a...

01:51:38.000 No, but what's like a super modded Ford?

01:51:41.000 Like a...

01:51:42.000 I don't know.

01:51:44.000 Like a...

01:51:45.000 What am I thinking?

01:51:46.000 They have like another muscle car besides the Mustang.

01:51:49.000 Nope.

01:51:50.000 They don't?

01:51:50.000 Nope.

01:51:50.000 You should have went with Chevy or something.

01:51:52.000 Really?

01:51:52.000 That's the only...

01:51:53.000 Even Jamie knows. 0.99

01:51:54.000 Jamie drives a goddamn electric car and he knows. 0.99

01:51:56.000 But that's seriously... 1.00

01:51:57.000 That's it.

01:51:58.000 Mustang.

01:51:58.000 Ford makes the Mustang.

01:51:59.000 I mean, Bronco.

01:52:01.000 They make a Bronco.

01:52:02.000 They make a GT, the Ford GT, but the reality is when it comes to muscle cars, they have a bunch of different versions of the Mustang, but when it comes to muscle cars, Chevy has far more variety.

01:52:13.000 Okay, so I'm thinking Chevy, I guess.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, Chevy has a Camaro and the Nova and the Corvette.

01:52:17.000 Right, right, right.

01:52:18.000 Unless you're talking about early Fords, like Fairlands and things like that.

01:52:22.000 Sure.

01:52:22.000 But that's on muscle cars.

01:52:24.000 Yeah, they're not.

01:52:25.000 Anyways, but my thing is, and pick any Japanese car brand, the same thing.

01:52:29.000 There's people modding the fuck out of them, and there's a huge market for it.

01:52:33.000 Whereas higher-end cars, you can find tuners.

01:52:36.000 They're usually called tuners.

01:52:37.000 You can mod things.

01:52:39.000 Obviously, you can put a different exhaust system on it or whatever.

01:52:41.000 But generally, when you get it, you're like, no, this drives just fine.

01:52:44.000 I'm okay.

01:52:45.000 I'm not gonna mod my GT3. If I get a new GT3, I'm not really gonna mod it.

01:52:50.000 I mean, unless I'm part of a racing crew and we wanted to make an adjustment to the tires or adjust the suspension in some way or something.

01:52:57.000 But I don't know.

01:52:59.000 I just kind of look at it as that way.

01:53:01.000 I'm oversimplifying and everyone's gonna But in terms of the user interface, like the new Android user interface, like as you get to like Android 11 and like the new...

01:53:09.000 I have one of those Galaxy S21 Ultras.

01:53:12.000 I have that one too, yeah. 0.99

01:53:13.000 It's a fucking great phone. 0.99

01:53:14.000 That's a beautiful phone. 0.99

01:53:15.000 And the other thing that they do better is they have different photography modes that make it...

01:53:20.000 You could really get into it and you have a lot more...

01:53:23.000 A lot more options.

01:53:24.000 Like one of them is the ability to take a photograph of the moon.

01:53:28.000 There's a moon shot. 0.99

01:53:29.000 Because if you try to take a photo of the moon with the iPhone, you don't get shit. 0.97

01:53:33.000 You get a weird light. 0.98

01:53:34.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:53:34.000 It's just a blob.

01:53:35.000 A blob.

01:53:36.000 But with S21 Ultra, the new one, when you take a photo of the moon, there's an actual setting that will adjust the aperture to make use of the amount of light that's coming off of the moon.

01:53:48.000 So you get a clear image.

01:53:50.000 See if you can get a photo of that.

01:53:53.000 S21 Ultra Galaxy S21 Ultra Moonshot.

01:53:57.000 You could actually take a picture. 0.99

01:53:59.000 I've taken a picture of the fucking moon before. 0.99

01:54:01.000 And it looks good. 0.99

01:54:01.000 It looks great. 0.99

01:54:02.000 Yeah, it's always so hard.

01:54:04.000 I will say the new cameras on the iPhones are great for low light.

01:54:09.000 Oh yeah, incredible.

01:54:10.000 Yeah, I mean, and I have both.

01:54:12.000 I always have one Android device and one Apple.

01:54:14.000 Me too.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, we've talked about this before.

01:54:16.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:54:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:17.000 Yeah, because when your car, you had Google connected to your car for navigation, then you were holding...

01:54:21.000 I was like, I like that.

01:54:22.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

01:54:23.000 Fuck around with both operating systems. 1.00

01:54:25.000 Why not? 1.00

01:54:25.000 You know, I do it for all situations. 1.00

01:54:28.000 I have way too much technology.

01:54:29.000 But I don't trust...

01:54:31.000 I feel like the iPhone is more secure.

01:54:35.000 No, I think the iPhone is way more secure, 100% of that secure enclave and all that stuff.

01:54:41.000 They take privacy pretty secure.

01:54:42.000 I mean, they're not unhackable, unhackable, but they're pretty damn close.

01:54:45.000 Yeah, all of it's hackable.

01:54:45.000 I mean, especially that was a part of that documentary, The Dissident.

01:54:52.000 Oh, yes.

01:54:52.000 Where they used that Pegasus software from Israel, and they used that to get it to Jeff Bezos' phone.

01:54:58.000 That's how they found all those embarrassing texts between him and his girlfriend. 0.99

01:55:01.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:55:02.000 Cost him his divorce. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Oh, that's right.

01:55:05.000 Yeah, well, you know, transparency to a certain degree.

01:55:08.000 If you live a transparent life, it helps, you know.

01:55:11.000 I'm willing to admit my mistakes.

01:55:13.000 Look at that.

01:55:13.000 Oh, that's gorgeous.

01:55:14.000 Isn't that incredible?

01:55:15.000 That's a photograph of the moon from a Galaxy S21 Ultra. 0.99

01:55:19.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.92

01:55:20.000 You know, I haven't tried it for that yet. 0.99

01:55:22.000 Incredible photography.

01:55:24.000 I really like the...

01:55:25.000 Everything about the camera.

01:55:26.000 I mean, the camera on the iPhone's amazing, too.

01:55:30.000 Different strengths.

01:55:31.000 Yeah.

01:55:32.000 They're both amazing.

01:55:33.000 It's just incredible what you can do today with a phone.

01:55:36.000 Yeah.

01:55:37.000 Well, you know, I was using that LiDAR, you know, the LiDAR that's built into the iPhone, and talking to these Fifth Planet guys about volumetric, and I was like, yeah, at some point, you're just going to be able to string a bunch of these together and do your own personal volumetric captures.

01:55:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:50.000 You know, easily.

01:55:51.000 Sure.

01:55:51.000 Because the LiDAR's there.

01:55:52.000 Yeah.

01:55:53.000 Or a bunch of iPads, whatever has a LiDAR camera.

01:55:55.000 Yeah.

01:55:55.000 And actually, the front-facing camera also can do depth.

01:55:58.000 Well, people started filming movies with iPhones, and now there's image stabilization in video in iPhones?

01:56:06.000 I know there is in the Galaxy, right?

01:56:07.000 I believe so.

01:56:08.000 There's some form of it.

01:56:09.000 There's optical and digital.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, so you've got image stabilization.

01:56:14.000 You put it on some sort of a handheld, and you can do some sort of a weird movie. 0.88

01:56:19.000 And pretty fucking good.

01:56:21.000 I mean, you could really make a pretty beautiful movie off the weird little tiny lenses that are in the back of a phone that slips into your back pocket with ease. 0.98

01:56:30.000 I know.

01:56:31.000 It's so cool.

01:56:31.000 I mean, I think about it all the time.

01:56:33.000 I mean, you can make a video anytime you want.

01:56:36.000 Anytime you want.

01:56:36.000 Like, anytime you can make a movie anytime you want.

01:56:38.000 It's incredible.

01:56:39.000 Anytime you need to.

01:56:40.000 I love it.

01:56:41.000 I'm looking forward.

01:56:43.000 I think the future is hopefully going to work in our favor.

01:56:46.000 It's going to be magnificent in that regard.

01:56:49.000 It's just what I'm worried about is these fake people that maybe don't want you to spank them. 1.00

01:56:55.000 That we're talking about artificial lovers.

01:56:57.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.93

01:56:58.000 Sex bots? 0.94

01:57:00.000 Even friends.

01:57:02.000 Artificial friends.

01:57:03.000 They're going to be simulations the way we're talking about.

01:57:06.000 Like a keyboard, a synthesizer simulates musical instruments.

01:57:10.000 That someone will really take an actual account, like a real audit of all the things that people say, like over the course of a life.

01:57:20.000 And that's not difficult for a computer to do.

01:57:23.000 And then simulate a friend and create a friend.

01:57:27.000 I mean, I'm partially excited about that, but I know what you're saying.

01:57:30.000 But for me, it's like, I'm like, can they do it?

01:57:33.000 Is it convincing?

01:57:34.000 Like, will it learn?

01:57:36.000 And then what is a way?

01:57:37.000 What is a friend?

01:57:38.000 What is a real person?

01:57:40.000 I mean, it's going to happen.

01:57:41.000 And then they're going to cry.

01:57:42.000 They're going to get sad if you're mean to them.

01:57:44.000 Oh, my God.

01:57:45.000 And that's going to get weird.

01:57:45.000 And then you're going to get tethered to them.

01:57:47.000 I mean, if it's using it to get you addicted to something, obviously not good.

01:57:52.000 You're going to have to bring it to a center to break up with it.

01:57:54.000 Oh, my God.

01:57:55.000 We're going to go to the electronic center, and then you just need a little adjustment here.

01:58:00.000 And they go, boom!

01:58:01.000 Like, she's so annoying. 1.00

01:58:03.000 Please, I have to break up with her. 0.87

01:58:05.000 Get her out of my life. 0.99

01:58:06.000 Can you give her an ability to adjust to a breakup?

01:58:10.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:58:11.000 So you have to download, like, a new thing.

01:58:13.000 That costs a lot of money.

01:58:15.000 You think so?

01:58:16.000 No, I'm just saying like to break up a la carte.

01:58:18.000 I really want to break up and like, oh, it's going to cost you a lot of money.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, well, it's not just break up.

01:58:23.000 You have to introduce her to other people because you have to make sure that she can somehow or another transition.

01:58:28.000 She's designed to please you and to be your friend.

01:58:30.000 And now that you don't want to be her friend anymore, this could be incredibly devastating to her self-confidence programming.

01:58:36.000 And she has rights.

01:58:37.000 So we're going to have to remap that.

01:58:38.000 We're going to have to remap that.

01:58:39.000 And she has rights.

01:58:40.000 She has rights.

01:58:40.000 We take our AI's privacy and their well-being very seriously.

01:58:46.000 It's going to happen, dude.

01:58:47.000 It will.

01:58:48.000 Whether it's 100 years from now or 10 years from now, it's going to happen.

01:58:52.000 People want it, so it's going to happen.

01:58:54.000 Yeah.

01:58:54.000 They definitely want it.

01:58:56.000 There's going to be a time when you go over to your buddy's house, and his wife's going to be in lingerie vacuuming, and you're going to go, is she real?

01:59:03.000 And he's going to be like, come on.

01:59:06.000 Let's talk in the other room.

01:59:08.000 She's definitely real.

01:59:11.000 She's real.

01:59:12.000 She's like, I heard that.

01:59:14.000 She's right there.

01:59:15.000 She's real.

01:59:16.000 Listen, I know.

01:59:17.000 You know, it's funny. 0.84

01:59:17.000 I do a dumb bit on stage sometimes where I go, let me do an impression. 0.84

01:59:21.000 This is an impression of a robot in the future picking up this glass and drinking from it. 0.92

01:59:29.000 And then I repeat it.

01:59:31.000 Impression of a robot in the future picking up a glass.

01:59:34.000 And I'm like, okay, here I go.

01:59:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I agree.

01:59:39.000 I think that, you know, the current climate is just insane to me.

01:59:43.000 That's my impression.

01:59:45.000 And some people get it, some people don't.

01:59:47.000 But that it's completely indistinguishable from a real person is a true thing.

01:59:52.000 It's not just going to be that.

01:59:53.000 I think they're going to be able to actually make not just like a silicon-based life form, But a cellular-based artificial life form.

02:00:04.000 You know how they're doing quantum computing now? 0.98

02:00:08.000 I like saying that word, but I don't know what the fuck I'm saying. 0.98

02:00:10.000 It sounds really fun, doesn't it? 0.99

02:00:11.000 It does.

02:00:12.000 It's like non-fungible tokens.

02:00:13.000 Totally.

02:00:14.000 But I think they're going to be able to create artificial cellular life.

02:00:18.000 I really do.

02:00:20.000 I think technology is going to hit some sort of sufficient capability where almost anything is possible.

02:00:26.000 And then it's going to get very strange because you're going to be able to have not just a robot, which, you know, like Ex Machina, but a robot.

02:00:37.000 I like it.

02:00:40.000 Ooh, I like it.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, robots.

02:00:42.000 Yeah.

02:00:42.000 But a fake person.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, I mean, if we can do it, we're going to do it.

02:00:49.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 That's all we want to do.

02:00:50.000 If we can do it, we're going to do it.

02:00:51.000 And we're going to be able to do it.

02:00:52.000 We're going to be able to do it because, you know, like I always say, technology's goal is to create ourselves outside of ourselves.

02:00:58.000 Like, that's what we want to do.

02:01:00.000 That is it, right?

02:01:01.000 We want to be able to, like, look at ourselves from a distance and go, all right.

02:01:04.000 Cool.

02:01:05.000 Now what?

02:01:06.000 I don't know.

02:01:07.000 Imagine if one day they find one of these Goldilocks planets, and they send a probe there, and they realize that there's plant life, and there's some weird fungus, and a lot of other shit, but there's no actual living beings, per se.

02:01:21.000 Like conscious, sentient beings.

02:01:23.000 So they put together an arc ship of Of amino acids and all of the building blocks of life, and they launch it into that planet.

02:01:33.000 Like panspermia, but by design.

02:01:36.000 Slam into the planet, and then visit it every now and then to see how things are going.

02:01:41.000 Like sea monkeys in a fish tank.

02:01:44.000 And that's what we're doing now.

02:01:45.000 That's essentially what we could be.

02:01:47.000 We could be?

02:01:47.000 Yeah.

02:01:48.000 We could be that experiment.

02:01:49.000 We could be that thing, yeah.

02:01:50.000 For sure.

02:01:51.000 Whatever those objects are that are on the Pentagon, whatever those things are, I had Chris Mellon on a couple days ago from the Defense Department. 0.99

02:01:59.000 Oh, shit. 0.64

02:02:00.000 Yeah, describing all the things that they've seen and the things that they have and even videos that haven't been released yet. 0.99

02:02:06.000 And you're like...

02:02:07.000 Wow, that...

02:02:08.000 Insane.

02:02:11.000 Oh, I can't wait.

02:02:12.000 Is that out yet?

02:02:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:14.000 It's wild shit, dude. 0.99

02:02:17.000 When he was describing the encounter off the coast of San Diego by the Nimitz, this guy, Commander David Fravor, saw this tic-tac-shaped thing that went from 80,000 feet above sea level to just above sea level in less than a second. 0.99

02:02:35.000 I mean, what is it?

02:02:36.000 And then disappeared, moved away so fast.

02:02:40.000 They have video of this thing traveling.

02:02:41.000 They've locked onto it.

02:02:43.000 They're trying to track it.

02:02:44.000 Yeah.

02:02:44.000 And it moves out of frame so fast.

02:02:46.000 They don't know how fast it was going, but it had to be thousands of miles an hour and many times faster than anything we've ever created could hold up under the pressure.

02:02:57.000 So any ship, any vehicle that we've created, if it moved that fast, it would just disintegrate just from the sheer G-force.

02:03:06.000 Yeah, and some of it is transelemental.

02:03:07.000 It'll go straight into water at relatively the same speeds.

02:03:11.000 And they can be tracked underwater and then in the air, moving at these insane speeds.

02:03:16.000 And they have mass because they're readable on radar.

02:03:19.000 And no one knows what they are.

02:03:20.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 They've got mass.

02:03:22.000 They move in ways that are completely beyond our understanding of how something like that could defy physics.

02:03:28.000 I don't know.

02:03:29.000 I'm kind of stoked about it.

02:03:31.000 You know, simulation theory, whatever.

02:03:32.000 I think they're coming because I think they think that we're falling apart.

02:03:36.000 I think so, too.

02:03:37.000 I think so, too, because we're definitely not using the powers for good. 0.98

02:03:41.000 It's like we've settled on some pretty petty shit. 0.96

02:03:46.000 And the people that are in power these days are kind of like just doing it wrong. 0.98

02:03:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:54.000 If they really wanted power, they would make sure that their community was doing well.

02:03:59.000 Well, it's almost impossible to do it right.

02:04:01.000 Because once you get in, first of all, the money is inexorably intertwined with politics, right?

02:04:11.000 The money in campaigns, the money in the special interests that you have to serve once you get into office, you're not getting rid of that.

02:04:19.000 Unless you have someone who is a benevolent outsider.

02:04:25.000 Not like a Trump guy, but like a real, truly brilliant, philanthropist-style billionaire that actually is a benevolent person, that wants to do this without... 0.99

02:04:37.000 And then the fucking blowback that they would face would be insane. 0.93

02:04:43.000 By all these systems that would never want to be compromised, that never want to be removed from the game. 0.99

02:04:49.000 So they would all band together to attack.

02:04:52.000 Well, yeah, absolutely.

02:04:53.000 And the thing is, what's interesting about it is that if – I'd say the only way to do it is if you hit it on the efficiency level.

02:05:00.000 If you can hit things on an efficiency level and you can justify like, well, you're going to save money.

02:05:06.000 You're going to make more money.

02:05:08.000 You're going to look better in the eyes of your constituents.

02:05:11.000 That's not the problem.

02:05:12.000 It's the corporation's.

02:05:13.000 Well, I know, but if you can somehow get the masses to understand that.

02:05:18.000 Do you want to constantly live in poverty right now, and do you want to worry about how your kids are going to get educated right now?

02:05:23.000 What if we were to tell you that by giving your kids better opportunity to education, And by kind of supporting that in society, and we have a smarter population that's a healthier population, more functional, more contribution, and then you can project the numbers and you can show,

02:05:42.000 like, we would be number one.

02:05:43.000 I mean, if everyone's all concerned with, like, number one, like, we would easily be number one.

02:05:48.000 If we just did these various things, if we redistributed the bottlenecked, tiny, closely guarded hypermass of resources, and we distributed them evenly, Rich people would still stay rich.

02:06:04.000 We're not talking about getting rid of status.

02:06:06.000 We're just redistributing it so everything kind of, this goes down, this spreads out.

02:06:11.000 Now there's more access to more things.

02:06:13.000 Population's less stressed out, less stress on the healthcare system.

02:06:17.000 You know what I mean?

02:06:17.000 I mean, we all know this.

02:06:19.000 More healthy people.

02:06:20.000 More healthy people.

02:06:20.000 More people that have an opportunity to grow so that the economy grows because you have more players.

02:06:25.000 Exactly.

02:06:25.000 Yes, exactly.

02:06:27.000 Less losers. 0.97

02:06:28.000 Yeah, less losers. 1.00

02:06:29.000 Less people that are, like, desperate to do shit, and they do shit that's stupid, and ends up... 0.99

02:06:35.000 But even then, we're still dealing with international problems. 1.00

02:06:38.000 You're still going to deal with China. 0.97

02:06:39.000 You're still going to deal with Russia. 0.78

02:06:41.000 I think these aliens are watching.

02:06:43.000 They're going, this little experiment is about to get bubbly.

02:06:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:47.000 I'm definitely...

02:06:48.000 I don't think we can...

02:06:51.000 My goal, I mean, not my goal, but my hope is when you're talking about aliens, I'm like, I know it's a crazy, fanciful thought, and I don't put a ton, but I definitely leave open the possibility that if there is intelligent life, it's probably us from the future as time travelers anyway.

02:07:08.000 It's just like...

02:07:08.000 That's possible.

02:07:09.000 Going like, hey, how's the experiment going?

02:07:11.000 It's like...

02:07:13.000 It's either us from the future as time travelers or life plays out in a very predictable pattern almost everywhere.

02:07:22.000 And that these beings in these other planets that have recognized that we have achieved a certain ability to influence our environment, to change and alter our environment...

02:07:35.000 Because that's what it's really all about, right?

02:07:36.000 Whether it's nuclear weapons or pickup trucks, you're altering your environment.

02:07:42.000 You've put paved surfaces so you can ride over it.

02:07:45.000 You've dug holes in the ground so you can extract oil.

02:07:47.000 We're doing all these weird things that intelligent creatures do to alter their environment, but then we fight over resources.

02:07:53.000 Yes.

02:07:54.000 And then we're breeders, right?

02:07:55.000 So we have, like, genetic impulses to protect and to covet and to do all these weird things with our bodies and make sure that people desire us.

02:08:05.000 And all this stuff is, like, almost unavoidable.

02:08:09.000 And then the alien's like, look, we're at, like, DEFCON 4 here.

02:08:13.000 Let's start showing ourselves a little bit more.

02:08:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:16.000 Let's circle the wagon train.

02:08:17.000 Because that's my whole thing.

02:08:18.000 It's like, you don't have to...

02:08:21.000 You've got to fight for your right to party.

02:08:23.000 I think that the Beastie Boys had it right.

02:08:27.000 It's kind of true.

02:08:27.000 At the end of the day, when you have a repressed society, I guarantee you all they want to do is have a nice meal and maybe go dancing.

02:08:34.000 And then maybe pursue their interests and their hobbies.

02:08:36.000 Someone wants to draw or dance.

02:08:38.000 Naturally, I think people say, oh, well, human beings are violent.

02:08:42.000 I don't really think that's true.

02:08:43.000 I think we're naturally explorers, intrepid explorers, I think that's what we are when all of our resources are met, right?

02:08:54.000 And there's plenty of resources on the planet.

02:08:56.000 There's not a shortage of resources that accounts for the level of poverty and all the disparity that we have in the world.

02:09:03.000 It's just all gatekeepers that are just like, nope!

02:09:07.000 No, we've got all the power.

02:09:09.000 It's like, why do you have all the power?

02:09:10.000 Because we love power.

02:09:11.000 How come you have the power?

02:09:12.000 You know, it's not good.

02:09:12.000 Yeah, I know, but just in case I've got all the power.

02:09:14.000 It's like, what if you relinquish some of it?

02:09:15.000 Oh, no, but then I wouldn't have as much power as that other person, and then I would be the second most powerful person.

02:09:21.000 Yeah, meanwhile, Bill Gates is out there buying all the farmland.

02:09:24.000 You're like, what are you doing, Bill?

02:09:25.000 It's like, what's on your mind, Bill?

02:09:27.000 What are you doing, bro?

02:09:28.000 Are you trying to grow organic or no?

02:09:31.000 Oh, God.

02:09:31.000 I mean, imagine if a billionaire, let's say like, have you heard of Elon Musk?

02:09:36.000 No.

02:09:37.000 Okay.

02:09:37.000 He's like this, he's like an engineer guy.

02:09:39.000 Really?

02:09:40.000 Yeah.

02:09:40.000 You'll hear about it, but he's like doing this thing with cars.

02:09:42.000 Where does he live?

02:09:43.000 I think he lives in Texas now.

02:09:45.000 No.

02:09:45.000 Yeah.

02:09:46.000 Yeah.

02:09:46.000 Actually, you should check him out.

02:09:47.000 Okay.

02:09:52.000 No, but I mean, imagine if someone like that decided to just pay off all student debt.

02:09:59.000 Right.

02:10:00.000 They're like...

02:10:01.000 Well, I don't know if they could, honestly.

02:10:02.000 I don't know if they could, but let's just say...

02:10:04.000 I think student...

02:10:05.000 Let's guess.

02:10:06.000 Let's take a guess, because I don't know the answer to this.

02:10:08.000 What do you think the total sum of student debt owed in the United States as of 2021 is?

02:10:15.000 If we could even Google this.

02:10:17.000 I want to say it's a trillion dollars.

02:10:19.000 You want to say it's a trillion dollars?

02:10:20.000 It's higher? 0.98

02:10:21.000 I'm just fucking guessing. 0.97

02:10:22.000 It's higher? 0.98

02:10:24.000 How much is it?

02:10:25.000 Okay, so he couldn't do it.

02:10:26.000 Okay, you try it.

02:10:27.000 Tell me what it is.

02:10:28.000 A trillion dollars?

02:10:30.000 Tell me what you think it is.

02:10:31.000 I mean, if it's above, if it's a trillion, let's say three trillion.

02:10:35.000 I'm going to say 13 trillion.

02:10:37.000 Okay, all right, relax.

02:10:39.000 It's just a little overwhelming.

02:10:40.000 Okay, 56. Is it 56?

02:10:44.000 It's a casual number.

02:10:47.000 1.7 trillion is what I'm seeing as of January this year. 1.00

02:10:52.000 Okay, fuck. 1.00

02:10:52.000 That is so much money. 1.00

02:10:53.000 Okay, so a Musk type or a Sultan couldn't do it, right? 0.98

02:10:56.000 Well, maybe a Sultan could do it, but then they would be like poor. 0.94

02:11:00.000 Yeah, right, of course.

02:11:01.000 They would drain all...

02:11:03.000 I mean, it would have to be like the whole royal family or something.

02:11:06.000 I mean...

02:11:06.000 That's so much money.

02:11:07.000 Okay.

02:11:08.000 Well, let's just say some people decided to invest in infrastructure privately, right?

02:11:13.000 And so they're like, well, we need more instruments in school.

02:11:16.000 And I know that there are foundations set up to help this, but what if someone was just like, I designed a system with a think tank of people that enables us to just inject a certain amount of money that ends up physically solving some kind of major disparity problem,

02:11:32.000 right?

02:11:32.000 Yeah.

02:11:32.000 Or at least temporarily or whatever.

02:11:34.000 Yeah.

02:11:35.000 What would happen?

02:11:37.000 I know I'm speaking way out of my depth, but I'm just saying, if you endeavored to take some of that wealth and distribute it, And make it functional.

02:11:47.000 Like, you're investing it into things that actually make people more functional.

02:11:50.000 Sure.

02:11:50.000 Well, you're giving people the opportunity to put money back in the economy because they no longer have to spend it on student loans.

02:11:57.000 Yeah.

02:11:57.000 You know, I think student loans are one of the only things that you have to pay no matter what.

02:12:03.000 Like, there's people that have Social Security.

02:12:06.000 They're getting Social Security docked because they owe money in student loans.

02:12:10.000 That's crazy.

02:12:11.000 It's crazy.

02:12:12.000 I mean, that's crazy that it's that tough.

02:12:14.000 It's that tough. 1.00

02:12:15.000 And not only that, if you go bankrupt, fuck you, pay me. 1.00

02:12:19.000 It's like Goodfellas. 1.00

02:12:20.000 Fuck you, pay me. 1.00

02:12:21.000 It doesn't matter what happens to you. 1.00

02:12:23.000 Fuck you, pay me. 1.00

02:12:24.000 You have to pay off your student loans. 1.00

02:12:26.000 Which is weird, right?

02:12:28.000 Yeah.

02:12:28.000 Because there's no other business venture that you enter into where you take a loan.

02:12:33.000 That's what bankruptcy is about.

02:12:35.000 There's this forgiveness that something went sideways and it allows you to have a fresh restart and get back on your feet again.

02:12:41.000 That's bankruptcy.

02:12:43.000 Right.

02:12:43.000 Not with student loans.

02:12:46.000 Insane.

02:12:46.000 I didn't know that.

02:12:48.000 I mean, I didn't really go to school.

02:12:50.000 It's a weird shell game.

02:12:52.000 It's weird.

02:12:54.000 I mean, it's just...

02:12:54.000 I don't know.

02:12:55.000 I mean, at this point, some of the stuff that...

02:12:57.000 I mean, luckily, some things are...

02:12:58.000 What do you call it?

02:12:59.000 Apprenticeship possible.

02:13:01.000 It's possible to just have apprenticeships, so you can kind of skip the...

02:13:04.000 Well, one of the things that I'm hoping...

02:13:06.000 Doctors?

02:13:06.000 Just kidding.

02:13:07.000 Yeah.

02:13:08.000 Just try it out.

02:13:09.000 Hey, just stand next to me during this heart surgery.

02:13:11.000 You'll get it.

02:13:12.000 One of the things that I think is happening because of this pandemic that's good is that people are recognizing that you can get educated online.

02:13:21.000 Like, it's definitely better to be there in school, particularly for young kids, because of the socialization aspect of school.

02:13:28.000 It's very important to be there in person.

02:13:30.000 But are physical universities as important as we once thought they were?

02:13:35.000 I would say they're probably not.

02:13:38.000 Not as.

02:13:39.000 I think that they can at least be supplemental.

02:13:41.000 I think, you know, another thing that's going to go away, unfortunately, for people that live in the northern climates, snow days.

02:13:48.000 I know.

02:13:49.000 Because now they show that you can do Zoom classes. 1.00

02:13:51.000 You're like, shit! 1.00

02:13:52.000 You're going to miss out on snow days. 1.00

02:13:54.000 Oh, I know.

02:13:55.000 You're going to have to unplug your internet. 0.98

02:13:57.000 If I was a kid, I'd fucking saw through my internet. 0.97

02:14:01.000 I'd be like, sorry. 1.00

02:14:02.000 I need a snow day, bitch. 1.00

02:14:04.000 That would suck. 1.00

02:14:05.000 Snow days were the shit. 1.00

02:14:06.000 Remember snow days? 1.00

02:14:07.000 You know, it's funny.

02:14:08.000 I think I'm going to say we probably had three snow days growing up in Montana, which in my early childhood had intense winters.

02:14:18.000 Yeah, but you guys were so accustomed to it.

02:14:20.000 I know. 1.00

02:14:20.000 They were just like, fuck you, you're coming to school. 1.00

02:14:22.000 No matter what, you'd get up and be like, what is it, below 5 right now? 1.00

02:14:27.000 Or look at this snow dune.

02:14:29.000 I have to dig myself out.

02:14:31.000 I had to dig out the front door just to get out of the house.

02:14:33.000 I had to crawl out of my window and dig out my front door.

02:14:36.000 That kind of stuff.

02:14:37.000 And they're like, nope.

02:14:38.000 You're coming to school.

02:14:39.000 And you just see people in snowsuits with goggles slogging.

02:14:43.000 It's like a blizzard and you can barely see shapes making their way to school.

02:14:48.000 And then the hallways were just...

02:14:50.000 Just covered in water.

02:14:52.000 Just water everywhere in the hallways.

02:14:55.000 I mean, that was Montana.

02:14:56.000 They were just like, no, you're coming to school.

02:14:58.000 Hardy people, though.

02:15:00.000 I mean, Mount St. Helens, I think that the eruption, I think maybe there was one day where we didn't go to school, and then everyone just wore masks, and then we just went and got inside the school.

02:15:09.000 Once we were in the school, we were doing it.

02:15:10.000 Oh, so Mount St. Helens affected you in Montana?

02:15:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:14.000 Got all the way to Montana.

02:15:14.000 I remember getting up, and there was ash everywhere.

02:15:16.000 It was on all the cars.

02:15:18.000 Wow.

02:15:18.000 And it was really fine, and so you had to wear a mask because you're just breathing in minerals.

02:15:23.000 What a fucked up way to die. 0.99

02:15:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:15:26.000 You mean like from inhalation of ash or just- No, you die in the volcanic eruption.

02:15:32.000 Well, I've always thought, my dream is when I die, which will probably never happen, but when I die, I want to get wrapped up like a mummy.

02:15:42.000 Put in a helicopter or an eVTOL and just like go over an active volcano and just dropped into the active volcano.

02:15:50.000 Have you ever seen pictures of things like when they drop it in lava?

02:15:54.000 It just disappear, right?

02:15:54.000 It just goes...

02:15:55.000 It's gone.

02:15:56.000 It just vaporizes.

02:15:59.000 Watermelons.

02:16:00.000 Really?

02:16:00.000 Yeah, there's like videos.

02:16:02.000 Yeah, it's just like...

02:16:04.000 Yeah, I mean, it's molten rock that's at the center of the earth.

02:16:09.000 It's so hot.

02:16:10.000 It's so hot.

02:16:11.000 It's like becomes almost something else.

02:16:13.000 People have died falling into volcanoes.

02:16:15.000 Yeah.

02:16:16.000 Imagine the fear that you have right before you hit.

02:16:21.000 And then absolutely nothing.

02:16:23.000 You wouldn't even...

02:16:23.000 I think you would...

02:16:24.000 It's so hot that it would feel...

02:16:26.000 You know, like when you touch something really hot, it feels like a...

02:16:30.000 It's not that hurt, that pain that we associate with a sharp pain or muscle fibers being ripped or sheared.

02:16:37.000 It's a different kind of pain.

02:16:39.000 It's so hot that you're like, what is this? 1.00

02:16:41.000 Oh, fuck! 1.00

02:16:42.000 Like that. 1.00

02:16:43.000 You wouldn't get to the oh, fuck part. 1.00

02:16:45.000 You would just be like, gone. 1.00

02:16:49.000 The thought is that that's when your brain produces DMT. Right at the moment when it knows it's going to die.

02:16:54.000 And then you transport...

02:16:56.000 Yeah, so it's like, oh, that's interesting.

02:16:59.000 Maybe it's a spiritual, automated spiritual transport system.

02:17:02.000 That's a great way to put it, but they do think it's like some sort of a chemical doorway.

02:17:06.000 I mean, the people that really get into it.

02:17:08.000 Okay, volcanic rubbish incinerator.

02:17:10.000 Okay, let's see there.

02:17:11.000 Drop it down and...

02:17:16.000 Gone.

02:17:17.000 Wow.

02:17:18.000 I mean, and that's not like active-active.

02:17:20.000 You know, like when it's exposed and you're touching that, the hot stuff, the orange, the white.

02:17:28.000 Bro, that's causing a real problem.

02:17:30.000 That was just like a bag and now it's exploding.

02:17:33.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Wow, that is fucked, man. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:36.000 That one little bag. 1.00

02:17:38.000 Because there's that crust on it right now.

02:17:39.000 And now it's boiling and popping.

02:17:41.000 So the crust had cooled off.

02:17:42.000 Yes.

02:17:43.000 And it had become like semi-liquid.

02:17:45.000 Yeah.

02:17:45.000 You know, people go hiking like right up there.

02:17:47.000 Oh yeah, totally.

02:17:48.000 Have you ever done the helicopter thing in Hawaii?

02:17:50.000 No.

02:17:51.000 No.

02:17:51.000 Oh man, it's wild.

02:17:52.000 They'll take you to the spots where the lava is coming out, forming the island.

02:17:58.000 So you get to watch, you're helicoptering over the lava.

02:18:02.000 You can see the active channels as it drives into the ocean, because it's constant.

02:18:06.000 Yes, right.

02:18:07.000 Yeah, it's just an onslaught.

02:18:08.000 Oh, it's so wild.

02:18:09.000 Until it, I guess, stops at some point.

02:18:12.000 That's the reason why Hawaii exists. 1.00

02:18:15.000 It's a volcanic activity.

02:18:17.000 I love it.

02:18:18.000 I just, I don't know. 0.98

02:18:19.000 Everything in nature and science, it just blows me the fuck. 0.93

02:18:23.000 I've seen some other stuff falls into the lava. 0.97

02:18:25.000 It wasn't a lot.

02:18:26.000 No?

02:18:26.000 What about a car?

02:18:27.000 What?

02:18:28.000 I think someone dropped a dead goat or something into it.

02:18:32.000 Or some watermelons.

02:18:34.000 I know that someone dropped...

02:18:35.000 The watermelons were great because it's mostly water vapor, which is closer to what we would be like.

02:18:39.000 Or obviously if you threw a cut of meat or something like that.

02:18:42.000 But the watermelon was kind of great.

02:18:44.000 And I think it was exposed lava.

02:18:47.000 But you just throw it in there.

02:18:49.000 And lava experts are like, it's actually called lava.

02:18:53.000 I've seen videos of people cooking over lava as well.

02:18:56.000 Oh yeah, totally.

02:18:57.000 You could just lower whatever, create a nice little meal and then just lower it down and then bring it back up.

02:19:03.000 What I've seen is actually, I think it was molten steel they had done.

02:19:08.000 I think that's what it was. 0.55

02:19:09.000 And they had poured it through a channel, like a ceramic channel, and then above that they put a grate and they were cooking meat as the hot molten shit was going underneath it, it was cooking the food. 0.96

02:19:22.000 Oh my gosh. 0.96

02:19:23.000 I bet you that's pretty cool.

02:19:25.000 I like doing two for one.

02:19:27.000 It's like, well, we make food and we also make steel.

02:19:30.000 It's like, yeah, that makes sense.

02:19:31.000 How are those related, though?

02:19:32.000 It's like, you'll see.

02:19:34.000 Come on in.

02:19:35.000 Smells really weird.

02:19:37.000 I wonder if the steel, whatever's radiating from it as metal would have some kind of a toxicity.

02:19:45.000 Oh, right.

02:19:45.000 It could easily, right?

02:19:47.000 It could have some fumes that come off of it.

02:19:49.000 Yeah, like something that just kind of like adheres to the meat.

02:19:52.000 I don't know.

02:19:54.000 There's places in, I think, Pennsylvania where they had coal mines that accidentally caught on fire.

02:20:03.000 Like something happened where it's like maybe someone dropped a cigarette or something like that.

02:20:08.000 And then there's an underground fire that's been burning for years.

02:20:13.000 Oh, I've heard of this.

02:20:15.000 I want to say Pennsylvania.

02:20:17.000 They can't put it out.

02:20:18.000 It's too hot.

02:20:19.000 You have toxic fumes that are coming out of the ground and they've had to abandon entire towns.

02:20:25.000 Oh my gosh.

02:20:26.000 Yeah, because the mines, it's coal. 1.00

02:20:29.000 And as long as there's oxygen and fire, good luck putting that shit out. 0.99

02:20:34.000 Apparently they tried to put it out at certain times. 0.99

02:20:37.000 They tried to pump water in there to no avail.

02:20:40.000 I mean, it's like a chemical reaction.

02:20:42.000 You know, it's like a pure chemical reaction.

02:20:43.000 This is the best I can find right now.

02:20:45.000 It says they're throwing water in a jug, which another video said it was a propane tank, but this says it's water, to try to create obsidian.

02:20:53.000 Whoa.

02:20:54.000 Don't know how that happens, but...

02:20:55.000 Show how they do it?

02:20:57.000 It looks like the same volcano.

02:20:59.000 He throws a jug in there and walks away.

02:21:01.000 That's a really familiar volcano, I think.

02:21:04.000 Let's see the jug.

02:21:04.000 Here he goes.

02:21:05.000 Chucks it.

02:21:08.000 And then that's it.

02:21:09.000 There it hits?

02:21:10.000 Right there.

02:21:11.000 Boom.

02:21:13.000 Wow, it's crazy.

02:21:14.000 As soon as it hits, it just starts exploding.

02:21:17.000 Yeah.

02:21:17.000 I mean, essentially, it just disintegrates into constituent elements.

02:21:23.000 It's just God's jizz.

02:21:25.000 That's what that is. 0.97

02:21:26.000 God, that is just insane.

02:21:29.000 Yeah.

02:21:30.000 I absolutely...

02:21:32.000 I just find that absolutely fascinating.

02:21:34.000 The fact that that coexist, that exists on the same surface or the same sphere, where grass is and sand is and trees are and then...

02:21:48.000 And it creates the fertility.

02:21:50.000 Because it's like, essentially, it's all the basic elements.

02:21:54.000 It's like when it gets that ash and all of the whatever's produced from volcanoes, what's left over, it's so rich in minerals.

02:22:04.000 Because everything's been broken down, it's really pure.

02:22:08.000 So taking that, I mean, that's where the vegetation is, so out of control around there.

02:22:12.000 Right, right. 0.99

02:22:13.000 We've got all the shit and it's broken down. 1.00

02:22:15.000 It's like eating protein powder when they get it really, really, really down and very fine. 0.99

02:22:21.000 It's so absorbable for your body.

02:22:23.000 Right, right.

02:22:24.000 Because you're making it easier on your body to absorb.

02:22:26.000 That's one of the cool things about visiting the Big Island is that there's volcanic lava that dried off and cooled off everywhere.

02:22:34.000 Like all over the place.

02:22:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:22:36.000 You'd see it, like, hey, you know, at any point in time, this shit could go sideways, and then this hot red fucking tide just comes rolling in, burning everything in its path. 0.99

02:22:47.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:22:48.000 Remember a couple years ago when the Big Island was on fire?

02:22:50.000 Oh, yes.

02:22:51.000 I do remember that.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, it was just eating houses.

02:22:54.000 Yeah, it looks like the blob.

02:22:56.000 Yeah.

02:22:56.000 Like the movie The Blob.

02:22:57.000 It's just slowly rolling.

02:22:59.000 And at some points, because it's getting slower, you could just watch it slowly coming down the street.

02:23:05.000 Yeah.

02:23:05.000 There's a great video of it eating a Mustang.

02:23:08.000 Oh, my God.

02:23:09.000 Yeah, there's a video.

02:23:09.000 Is that a Chevrolet?

02:23:10.000 It is a Dodge.

02:23:12.000 Oh, Dodge makes the Mustang, right?

02:23:13.000 I think Elon Musk is involved.

02:23:15.000 Okay.

02:23:16.000 That's what I heard.

02:23:17.000 Oh, there it is!

02:23:18.000 Yeah.

02:23:19.000 So it comes creeping up on this car that they had left there, and then it just slowly consumes this car.

02:23:25.000 Look how slow it's moving, man.

02:23:27.000 Wow. 1.00

02:23:28.000 It's just moving across the street and eats this fucking dude's car. 1.00

02:23:31.000 And that year Mustang deserves to be eaten. 1.00

02:23:33.000 It does.

02:23:34.000 Thank you. 0.99

02:23:35.000 That's a shit-looking car. 1.00

02:23:37.000 They made some shitting. 1.00

02:23:38.000 They did, man. 0.98

02:23:39.000 But what's crazy is they got it wrong and then they got it right.

02:23:43.000 And they got it really right, yeah. 0.98

02:23:45.000 The new ones are sick.

02:23:46.000 Although I do love the GTs.

02:23:48.000 God, look at that.

02:23:49.000 That's so crazy.

02:23:50.000 Have you seen the new Shelby GT500? Yeah, is that out yet?

02:23:54.000 It's a monster.

02:23:56.000 And then Hennessy makes an 1100 horsepower Shelby GT500. Oh, they do.

02:24:03.000 Because they also have their own supercar.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, they have a hypercar that they're Testing that they want to bring it to 300 miles an hour.

02:24:12.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:24:12.000 Who was 200 miles an hour?

02:24:15.000 Who's the Cali company that claimed plus 300, but then there's the controversy with the shit that they were using? 0.99

02:24:21.000 Yeah, I don't know what that is. 0.98

02:24:23.000 I know what you're talking about, though.

02:24:26.000 He's kind of like the Koenigsegg of California.

02:24:31.000 It's a wild looking car though, whatever it is.

02:24:33.000 Yeah, I mean it looks capable and apparently they ran it again and I don't know if they busted 300, but they got all the journalists out there, all the YouTube dudes.

02:24:42.000 What is this here?

02:24:42.000 Forgotty Chiron?

02:24:43.000 No, it's not the Chiron.

02:24:44.000 No, no, no.

02:24:46.000 It's the...

02:24:47.000 Yeah, put in California hypercar plus 300 controversy.

02:24:53.000 It's that dude.

02:24:55.000 The Hennessy car, they've been working on that, I think, for more than a decade.

02:24:59.000 Tuatara.

02:25:00.000 Oh, there it is.

02:25:01.000 Tuatara sets record for fastest production car.

02:25:03.000 $1.9 million hypercar past 300 miles an hour.

02:25:08.000 Imagine something going 300 miles an hour passing you...

02:25:12.000 Oh, man.

02:25:13.000 I mean, if you were going, let's say, 80 miles per hour, it would just be gone.

02:25:19.000 What?

02:25:20.000 Yeah.

02:25:21.000 331.15 miles an hour, beating a record set by the Koenigsegg.

02:25:25.000 How do you say it?

02:25:26.000 Aguera.

02:25:27.000 Koenigsegg? 0.97

02:25:28.000 Koenigsegg.

02:25:29.000 Koenigsegg.

02:25:29.000 Yeah.

02:25:30.000 Which was on the same Nevada highway in 2017. Jesus.

02:25:33.000 They're going to build 100 of them.

02:25:35.000 Yeah.

02:25:36.000 So that dude who owns the $450 million painting, he's going to get a new daily driver.

02:25:41.000 Oh my god.

02:25:42.000 Did you see that California hyper car, the hydrogen-powered one?

02:25:46.000 No.

02:25:47.000 Check that out.

02:25:48.000 It's a crazy design, but the numbers on it are insane.

02:25:53.000 This thing has 1,750 horsepower?

02:25:56.000 Yes. 1.00

02:25:57.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:25:58.000 It's a fucking monster. 1.00

02:26:00.000 And it has no active aero. 1.00

02:26:02.000 What?

02:26:03.000 How does it stay on the ground?

02:26:04.000 It uses these weird fins on the back.

02:26:07.000 They're like these two little tiny fins, if I'm remembering correctly.

02:26:10.000 It's just tuned.

02:26:12.000 It's like the new...

02:26:13.000 Who's the dude?

02:26:14.000 The guy who designed the...

02:26:16.000 Look at how beautiful it is.

02:26:17.000 See those little fins?

02:26:18.000 Yeah.

02:26:19.000 It's just that.

02:26:20.000 That's all it is.

02:26:21.000 It's so pretty.

02:26:21.000 It's a really pretty car.

02:26:23.000 The only thing, I don't quite like the logo on the engine.

02:26:26.000 It looks a little tacky.

02:26:28.000 But other than that, I'm a big fan of the design of that car.

02:26:33.000 The T looks forced.

02:26:37.000 Oh, the T in the middle?

02:26:38.000 Yeah, that's a little corny.

02:26:39.000 And then it looks kind of like early 90s West Hollywood.

02:26:44.000 Mmm.

02:26:44.000 Vibe.

02:26:44.000 I see what you're saying.

02:26:45.000 I'm sure he loves me for that.

02:26:46.000 But still dope.

02:26:48.000 Still dope. 0.99

02:26:48.000 Yeah, just make that shit smooth. 0.99

02:26:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:26:51.000 Paint it over. 1.00

02:26:52.000 And it turns out hydrogen-powered cars sound pretty fucking dope. 0.91

02:26:55.000 They do. 0.90

02:26:56.000 I saw, like, a hydrogen-powered Toyota.

02:26:58.000 Yeah.

02:26:58.000 You saw that video?

02:26:59.000 Yeah.

02:26:59.000 I was like, ooh.

02:27:00.000 Yeah, so it's basically burning water.

02:27:02.000 It's just burning water.

02:27:04.000 It's still got moving parts and all that stuff.

02:27:09.000 I can't wait.

02:27:11.000 It sounded cool.

02:27:12.000 It sounds a lot better than turbocharged Porsches.

02:27:14.000 They sound like a sewing machine.

02:27:16.000 You know, it's funny.

02:27:17.000 In my 911, you can hear the turbos and they sound like...

02:27:22.000 Yeah.

02:27:26.000 It's weird.

02:27:27.000 It's a weird sound.

02:27:28.000 I'm like, because the flat six sounds gorgeous.

02:27:30.000 I love that note.

02:27:31.000 And I'm not a, I don't like loud cars.

02:27:33.000 I'm not a big, I mean, I understand why cars are loud, but I'm not looking for a loud car.

02:27:38.000 I like Porsches because they sound efficient.

02:27:40.000 They sound like angry, efficient, and it means business.

02:27:43.000 But it's just that flat six and then I'm like driving.

02:27:47.000 What is this?

02:27:48.000 Is this?

02:27:49.000 What it looks like in the car.

02:27:50.000 Look at the POV. Look how fast it's going.

02:27:53.000 So it's at 186. Yeah, and basically you're getting to the theoretical, you're getting to the limit of physics between tires.

02:28:02.000 Look how it's at 200 miles an hour.

02:28:04.000 Look how fast it's going.

02:28:05.000 217, 220, 230, 240, 250. This is nuts.

02:28:11.000 Look how fast things are passing them.

02:28:15.000 Because it's moving and now it's at 280, 290. Steady hands.

02:28:20.000 Steady hands. 1.00

02:28:20.000 Steady as fuck. 1.00

02:28:21.000 Can you imagine what it's like if you blow a tire at 316, 317? 1.00

02:28:27.000 Insane.

02:28:27.000 Oh my god, that's nuts.

02:28:29.000 So I think this is the official one.

02:28:30.000 There we go.

02:28:32.000 331. 151. Motherfucker. 1.00

02:28:35.000 That is so fast. 1.00

02:28:36.000 And that's an American...

02:28:36.000 I'm kind of proud.

02:28:37.000 There's amazing American automakers that are competing with world-class engineering.

02:28:43.000 I mean, it is world-class engineering.

02:28:44.000 But you know what I mean?

02:28:45.000 It's going against...

02:28:46.000 And they look incredible.

02:28:48.000 Find that Hennessy one.

02:28:49.000 Because the Hennessy one, they think, is going to be...

02:28:52.000 The hypercar?

02:28:53.000 The ballpark of the same kind of speed.

02:28:55.000 Yeah.

02:28:56.000 Somewhere in the 300 miles an hour range.

02:28:57.000 It's the new 300 plus club.

02:28:59.000 It's kind of like, at a certain point... 1.00

02:29:01.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:29:02.000 It's an engineering exercise. 1.00

02:29:03.000 That's all it is.

02:29:04.000 It is.

02:29:05.000 It's like no one's doing it.

02:29:06.000 I mean, if you owned it and you know somebody with an airstrip.

02:29:11.000 No, that's the GT350. That's not fast at all.

02:29:14.000 Yeah, put a Hennessy supercar.

02:29:15.000 Or hypercar.

02:29:16.000 Yeah, not the Shelby.

02:29:17.000 The Shelby GT350 is not even their fast one.

02:29:19.000 The GT500, that's it.

02:29:21.000 There we go.

02:29:22.000 The Venom.

02:29:22.000 F5. Yeah.

02:29:23.000 It's a gorgeous looking car.

02:29:25.000 It's crazy.

02:29:26.000 Yeah.

02:29:27.000 Sounds like thunder.

02:29:30.000 Fujita scale.

02:29:31.000 Fujita scale.

02:29:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:33.000 I love auto journalism.

02:29:36.000 In ancient times, the Greeks thought of spears.

02:29:40.000 Go full screen, please.

02:29:42.000 That's a computer, right?

02:29:43.000 Or is that the car?

02:29:44.000 That's the car?

02:29:45.000 That's the car.

02:29:46.000 It really is the car.

02:29:46.000 That looks fake.

02:29:47.000 Yeah.

02:29:47.000 I know.

02:29:48.000 He gets in it.

02:29:50.000 The interior's all right, but it's not really about that.

02:29:54.000 Yeah, this is just about full-on madness, speed. 1.00

02:29:58.000 Look at the engine, that fucking thing. 0.99

02:30:01.000 And that's the dash? 1.00

02:30:02.000 Wow.

02:30:03.000 Yeah, it's connected to the steering...

02:30:04.000 Oh, no, that's not...

02:30:05.000 Sorry, that was...

02:30:06.000 Who does that?

02:30:08.000 Rimmatz.

02:30:09.000 Apple CarPlay?

02:30:10.000 I saw that.

02:30:11.000 Yeah, he's just showing it.

02:30:13.000 It's got like the...

02:30:14.000 Yeah.

02:30:15.000 But I think it's the Rimmatz that has the screen on the steering wheel.

02:30:19.000 And as you turn it, the image rotates.

02:30:22.000 Yeah.

02:30:22.000 Can we hear what this thing sounds like?

02:30:24.000 Oh, I don't know if they have that exhaust note.

02:30:26.000 They must have it.

02:30:28.000 Oh.

02:30:37.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

02:30:38.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:30:38.000 It sounds like a motorboat. 1.00

02:30:45.000 I'd have to live in the countryside to drive that.

02:30:49.000 There's some video of them driving this thing because this is still being engineered.

02:30:54.000 So I think they've only gotten it to 200 miles an hour now, which is a slightly detuned version of what it's fully capable of, and they have to ramp it up in steps.

02:31:04.000 Yes, I heard about this.

02:31:06.000 Was it that car that they were doing that?

02:31:08.000 Yeah, it's that Hennessy Venom...

02:31:10.000 They're just ringing it in.

02:31:11.000 Google Hennessy Venom reaches 200 miles an hour.

02:31:15.000 Hennessy Venom reaches 200 miles an hour.

02:31:20.000 Because they had it on a track.

02:31:22.000 Yeah, they're...

02:31:23.000 No, that's not it.

02:31:24.000 Is that not it?

02:31:24.000 That's an eight-year-old video.

02:31:26.000 Oh, that's the Venom GT. That's the other one.

02:31:29.000 A two-week-old video?

02:31:30.000 It has to be the F5. Yeah, that's it.

02:31:32.000 Aerodynamic testing.

02:31:32.000 Oh, here we go.

02:31:33.000 That's it.

02:31:33.000 So I guess they have to work on the aero to make sure it doesn't fly.

02:31:37.000 Yes.

02:31:37.000 You know, like, when you go in that fast.

02:31:39.000 So as it ramps up, this is the aerodynamic test.

02:31:43.000 Look at that.

02:31:45.000 Actually, the interior looks good.

02:31:54.000 That's a nice sound.

02:31:56.000 That sounds awesome.

02:31:57.000 Yeah, it does sound like a Yeah, it's a racing car, obviously. 0.99

02:32:04.000 Imagine driving that fucking thing around. 0.99

02:32:06.000 Can you drive that thing around? 1.00

02:32:07.000 Why would you?

02:32:10.000 You know what I mean?

02:32:10.000 But is it legal?

02:32:12.000 I think it's gotta be road legal.

02:32:14.000 I think it's road legal.

02:32:15.000 Could you put a license plate on that thing and go to HEB? I think you could.

02:32:20.000 Buy a salad?

02:32:22.000 It's just like, guys, they'll be right back.

02:32:24.000 It's like, come on, man.

02:32:25.000 A $2 million car in the driveway?

02:32:29.000 In that video, the engine was restricted to just 900 horsepower.

02:32:34.000 Yeah.

02:32:34.000 Only 50% of the full.

02:32:35.000 Oh, that's right.

02:32:36.000 Right.

02:32:36.000 Yeah, it's because they want to slowly bring it up to 300 miles an hour, so there's engineering involved.

02:32:42.000 I actually talked to John Hennessy about it, and he's telling me what this crazy task it is to create this thing and how long they've been working on it.

02:32:51.000 I mean, between that and then the new Mercedes AMG1. What's that?

02:32:57.000 They took a Formula One engine and put it in a production car.

02:33:01.000 Production road car.

02:33:02.000 What?

02:33:02.000 Oh yeah, check it out.

02:33:03.000 What does it look like?

02:33:04.000 It's about to come out.

02:33:06.000 It's gorgeous.

02:33:08.000 Check it out.

02:33:09.000 It looks like that.

02:33:10.000 It's basically like a large rectangle.

02:33:12.000 It's dark, and it has a reflection that looks similar to us.

02:33:16.000 No, it's like a...

02:33:19.000 It's been in the works for a long time.

02:33:21.000 It's got the single fin in the back, that time Formula One technology or whatever.

02:33:27.000 There we go.

02:33:27.000 Whoa!

02:33:29.000 Look at this motherfucker. 1.00

02:33:34.000 This is a Mercedes? 1.00

02:33:36.000 Yep.

02:33:43.000 What?

02:33:44.000 Be prepared for Formula One.

02:33:46.000 Back that up again so I can read.

02:33:47.000 What does this say?

02:33:48.000 Formula One hybrid technology on the streets.

02:33:51.000 What?

02:33:51.000 Yeah.

02:33:52.000 Do they have an image of what it looks like, Jamie? 0.73

02:33:54.000 It's so gross.

02:33:56.000 It's gross?

02:33:57.000 I mean, it's just an amazing car.

02:33:59.000 Gross in the best way?

02:34:00.000 Oh, gross in the best way. 0.63

02:34:02.000 Wow. 0.51

02:34:03.000 I mean, it's just like an evil-looking piece of machinery.

02:34:07.000 Yeah. 0.82

02:34:08.000 Well, I guess when there's ridiculous rich people, you're always going to create things for them to buy.

02:34:14.000 It's got the scoop on the top. 0.68

02:34:16.000 Active arrow in the front.

02:34:17.000 I guess that active arrow shot that they shot.

02:34:19.000 Yeah, it's still there. 1.00

02:34:21.000 Fuck, and you can just buy that? 1.00

02:34:23.000 Yeah, you could buy that. 1.00

02:34:24.000 That's what's nuts is you don't even have to have like a crazy license.

02:34:27.000 No.

02:34:27.000 You can get a regular driver's license and you'd buy a 2,000 horsepower car.

02:34:31.000 I mean, it's insane.

02:34:33.000 And that new- 1,000 horsepower, maximum speed of over 350 kilometers an hour.

02:34:39.000 What is that in speed?

02:34:40.000 Oh yeah, one to one.

02:34:42.000 What is- 350 kilometers is what?

02:34:44.000 What is that?

02:34:45.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:34:46.000 I'm terrible at that shit. 1.00

02:34:46.000 Well, 100 is 60. Yeah. 1.00

02:34:48.000 So 300 is like 1, 200?

02:34:52.000 217. 217?

02:34:53.000 217. 350. Okay, so 350 is 217. Yeah.

02:34:58.000 Why don't we all use the same numbers?

02:35:00.000 Come on.

02:35:00.000 I know.

02:35:01.000 At a certain point, well, people argue that horsepower is outdated, too.

02:35:05.000 Yeah, but it sounds good.

02:35:06.000 It does sound good.

02:35:07.000 Horsepower.

02:35:08.000 When people say, like, 500 newton meters, hey, what are you saying?

02:35:12.000 I know.

02:35:12.000 It's like, it's got over 5,000 newton meters of force and torque.

02:35:17.000 Sorry, torque and force.

02:35:19.000 No, just torque.

02:35:20.000 What are you saying, bro?

02:35:21.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

02:35:22.000 Yeah, the Rimats is also, like, fucking stupid. 1.00

02:35:27.000 This car goes zero to 124 miles an hour in under six seconds. 1.00

02:35:32.000 What?

02:35:35.000 That's so nuts!

02:35:36.000 Isn't it funny that it's not necessarily about horsepower?

02:35:40.000 It's about the engineering of how you harness the energy.

02:35:43.000 Look at that steering wheel.

02:35:44.000 That's pretty sick.

02:35:46.000 Yeah, full-on race steering wheel.

02:35:47.000 I mean, it's like the type of thing when you buy it, you have to sit and take a lesson.

02:35:51.000 Do you?

02:35:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:35:54.000 Those types of cars?

02:35:55.000 I mean, obviously, if you were like Lewis Hamilton or something like that, and you're like, I just want it.

02:35:59.000 And they're like, here it is.

02:36:00.000 See you later.

02:36:02.000 But I mean, come on, man.

02:36:04.000 I mean, that thing is just...

02:36:05.000 And I love the perma seats.

02:36:09.000 No adjustments whatsoever.

02:36:10.000 You can go forward, or the pedals come to you and the steering wheel comes to you.

02:36:14.000 Probably that, right?

02:36:15.000 Yeah.

02:36:16.000 Wow.

02:36:16.000 Just keep it static.

02:36:18.000 That is pretty pretty.

02:36:19.000 Just sit on the ground, sort of?

02:36:20.000 Yeah, kind of.

02:36:21.000 Basically, it's like a go-kart.

02:36:22.000 Oh, I see.

02:36:22.000 It kind of goes down there.

02:36:23.000 Yeah.

02:36:24.000 It's just one piece.

02:36:25.000 It's all built in there.

02:36:26.000 I mean, it's a...

02:36:27.000 Alcantara.

02:36:28.000 The Koenigsegg Jumeirah also has that kind of like thin static seats.

02:36:33.000 I don't know.

02:36:34.000 There's like a...

02:36:35.000 And then who's the dude that developed...

02:36:37.000 Wow, look at that.

02:36:38.000 He developed a...

02:36:40.000 Who's the badass British sports car maker?

02:36:44.000 Why can't I remember their name?

02:36:49.000 McLaren.

02:36:49.000 Yeah, the guy who created the legendary McLaren, I can't remember the model name, but he has his own shop and he just created his own hypercar.

02:36:57.000 Oh, really?

02:36:58.000 Yeah, and he uses this turbine system that there's no downforce.

02:37:02.000 It's a turbine that basically disturbs or unifies the airflow.

02:37:07.000 There you go.

02:37:08.000 Oh, look at the back end of that thing. 1.00

02:37:10.000 That's madness.

02:37:12.000 Yeah.

02:37:12.000 So there's no active aero.

02:37:14.000 So there's this new trend, this new movement in no active aero.

02:37:18.000 They're just managing air management with this turbine system.

02:37:22.000 Whoa.

02:37:23.000 Let me see more pictures of that thing.

02:37:28.000 People are going nutty.

02:37:30.000 They're going nutty with the vehicles.

02:37:32.000 It's so crazy.

02:37:34.000 And with hydrogen and electric, they're kind of vying, they're battling, and I don't know.

02:37:40.000 And then, of course, Porsche's e-fuel initiative.

02:37:42.000 They're really investing in the e-fuels.

02:37:44.000 Yeah.

02:37:45.000 So, I mean, that could save the internal combustion engine.

02:37:48.000 So, I mean, think about that.

02:37:48.000 If there was a breakthrough in e-fuels, you could create hydrogen from recaptured carbon in the atmosphere.

02:37:54.000 So, the production of it is completely net zero.

02:37:56.000 It's still releasing CO2, but it's net zero.

02:37:59.000 It's a beautiful car.

02:38:01.000 And it's got the center placement with people on either side of you.

02:38:05.000 Oh, wow.

02:38:06.000 That's wild.

02:38:06.000 So you got that center cockpit.

02:38:07.000 When you want to get out of the car, you have to say, you got to get out of the car first, dude, so I can get out of the car.

02:38:13.000 I kind of want to see.

02:38:13.000 But see, the doors, it exposes so much, it's pretty easy to get out of.

02:38:17.000 You can step into it and almost be standing, then sit down into it.

02:38:21.000 That's pretty dope.

02:38:22.000 It's a great car, man.

02:38:23.000 There's so many...

02:38:24.000 Have you seen the new Mercedes Electric?

02:38:28.000 Yes, the EQS. That's amazing.

02:38:30.000 Gorgeous.

02:38:30.000 I actually might consider getting it.

02:38:32.000 Yeah?

02:38:33.000 It's not a concept car.

02:38:34.000 No.

02:38:35.000 It's a real car.

02:38:35.000 No, it's a real car.

02:38:36.000 EQS Edition 1. It's fucking disgusting. 1.00

02:38:39.000 It looks kind of like, nah. 1.00

02:38:41.000 I think it looks cool.

02:38:42.000 I mean, I do think it looks cool, but it also kind of looks economical.

02:38:45.000 It's like, you know?

02:38:46.000 But then, and you realize it's got the slip.

02:38:49.000 I like that, dude.

02:38:50.000 Yeah, Louis from Unbox Therapy did a great video about it where he showed all the tech involved in it, and it's insane.

02:38:55.000 Yeah, and all electric doors.

02:38:57.000 All the doors are electric.

02:38:58.000 So they open automatically.

02:39:01.000 Click on that and go full screen so you can see. 0.95

02:39:03.000 Like, the interior is fucking wild. 0.81

02:39:04.000 This guy's great.

02:39:05.000 I love this guy's videos.

02:39:06.000 Well, he's so tech-oriented.

02:39:08.000 He's so knowledgeable about this stuff. 0.99

02:39:10.000 And his zone, where he actually films the shit in that gigantic box with the overhead lights. 1.00

02:39:14.000 I mean, look at that shit. 1.00

02:39:15.000 Look at this fucking thing, man. 1.00

02:39:17.000 I mean, I have a Taycan, and that's pretty futuristic-looking, but this is just something else. 1.00

02:39:23.000 How do you like the Taycan as far as range?

02:39:25.000 Because the range is not quite what a Tesla does.

02:39:30.000 No.

02:39:30.000 It's about $218, $228.

02:39:35.000 Is that okay?

02:39:37.000 I don't notice it.

02:39:38.000 I charge it at home.

02:39:39.000 Right.

02:39:40.000 So you just drive around and then charge it at night.

02:39:42.000 Yeah.

02:39:43.000 I mean, Portia was like...

02:39:44.000 There was an interview, like an internal video.

02:39:46.000 Well, it was for people.

02:39:47.000 They released it on the internet.

02:39:49.000 But there was this interview with one of the chief design guys or whatever.

02:39:52.000 And the woman asking the questions... 0.99

02:39:54.000 At one point was like, are you ever going to...

02:39:57.000 People talk about the range of Teslas.

02:39:59.000 There's obviously the new Tesla Plaid Plus that's coming out with 520 miles of range.

02:40:04.000 Are you ever going to try to achieve those types of numbers for the Taycan?

02:40:07.000 He's like, no.

02:40:09.000 He's like, that's not what we focus on performance.

02:40:11.000 If the battery technology gets better and the energy density becomes better and we can make the car lighter...

02:40:16.000 That creates efficiency, then awesome.

02:40:19.000 But that's not what we're focused on.

02:40:21.000 We're focused on driving dynamics and performance.

02:40:24.000 And in a way, it kind of mimics on electric scale.

02:40:27.000 It mimics what sports cars are, right?

02:40:28.000 They're not fuel efficient.

02:40:29.000 There are definitely some pretty relatively efficient supercars and hypercars, but...

02:40:34.000 They're usually going through like, you know, nine miles per gallon or something like that, 12 miles per gallon in performance mode.

02:40:39.000 In essence, that's kind of what's happening with this car.

02:40:42.000 It's a performance EV. It still gets 200 and whatever plus miles of range at the top end of the Turbo S. But it's not as efficient necessarily.

02:40:52.000 Or the range isn't there because they're not focused on range.

02:40:55.000 They're focused on how do you get those electrons to the motors and how is that expressed and how does it feel to interface with it.

02:41:03.000 That's all they care about, which I kind of like.

02:41:05.000 It's an honest answer.

02:41:07.000 It's not like someday the Taycan will be...

02:41:09.000 It's like they're not coming at it like that.

02:41:12.000 Well, Porsche has always been about driving dynamics.

02:41:15.000 Always.

02:41:15.000 Even if you drive their SUV, it's a preposterous vehicle.

02:41:19.000 Have you ever driven the Cayenne Turbo?

02:41:22.000 No, I haven't gotten to there.

02:41:23.000 It moves so fast.

02:41:25.000 It's like, how is this doing this?

02:41:27.000 It doesn't even make any sense.

02:41:28.000 Yeah, right.

02:41:29.000 And it's not, they're not necessarily worried about, I mean, they'll worry about efficiency as in emissions, right?

02:41:34.000 They'll do the emissions stuff.

02:41:36.000 They do that, yes.

02:41:37.000 But, you know, to some people's disappointment in the new limiters.

02:41:40.000 But like, it definitely, or the rev limiters and the, you know, the particulate filters and all this stuff.

02:41:44.000 But in general, they're just like, does it feel good on a corner?

02:41:48.000 Does it accelerate really well?

02:41:49.000 Does it feel stable?

02:41:50.000 And do you feel confident behind the wheel?

02:41:53.000 Yeah.

02:41:53.000 It's just about speed and handling and engineering.

02:41:56.000 Engineering.

02:41:58.000 And also the interior, the way the ergonomics is set up.

02:42:01.000 Yes.

02:42:02.000 Magnificent.

02:42:03.000 They just dial that in on all their Porsches.

02:42:05.000 It's just so dialed in.

02:42:06.000 I use all the buttons It's crazy.

02:42:09.000 On the steering wheel, I'm using all of it.

02:42:11.000 I'm using regen, you know, off-regen.

02:42:14.000 I'm using, you know, the changing...

02:42:16.000 Do you prefer regen?

02:42:17.000 What that means for folks that are just listening is like when you let your foot off the gas, it could either absorb energy and reuse the braking.

02:42:27.000 So you don't actually brake, you just let go and it actually slows you down.

02:42:31.000 Yeah, it's the resistance of the motor.

02:42:33.000 So when there isn't a charge applied to the motor, essentially it acts as a generator.

02:42:39.000 So as long as it's moving, which it still has motion or whatever, momentum from the car.

02:42:43.000 It gives some juice back to the car.

02:42:45.000 It gives back, yeah.

02:42:45.000 But it's kind of a negligible amount, right?

02:42:48.000 You're not really getting enough so that you could go...

02:42:50.000 How many more extra miles can you get in a day?

02:42:52.000 I think you can get like five miles or something like that.

02:42:54.000 I mean, I'm sure someone knows better.

02:42:56.000 All day of driving?

02:42:57.000 Well, it depends on your driving style, you know, but what's interesting about, you know, they call it recuperative, you know, because they're German.

02:43:03.000 But what's interesting about their philosophy of the Taycan is they just let it coast.

02:43:09.000 Because they believe the energy of the car should be allowed to just continue, right?

02:43:14.000 So it coasts like a regular car does, right?

02:43:16.000 But you do have a regen switch that you can press that adds a light amount of it, right?

02:43:21.000 Oh, so it's not like the Tesla. 0.99

02:43:22.000 It's not one-pedal driving, which I was used to in my ass, right? 0.81

02:43:25.000 But when you go to Sport Plus mode, which lowers the car and makes it more aggressive and turns on the sport sound or whatever, there's a pretty aggressive regen that I've noticed. 0.97

02:43:35.000 What's the sport sound?

02:43:36.000 It's like a...

02:43:38.000 Like a Jetson sound.

02:43:41.000 It's super future, and it sounds so sick.

02:43:44.000 I want to hear it.

02:43:44.000 Yeah, you'll hear it.

02:43:47.000 It's awesome.

02:43:48.000 When I'm driving that car...

02:43:49.000 Why did they have to call it a turbo, though?

02:43:51.000 There's no turbos.

02:43:53.000 Because, you know what?

02:43:54.000 That seems silly.

02:43:54.000 They're claiming it because it's...

02:44:01.000 Bro.

02:44:03.000 That's pretty badass.

02:44:06.000 And it has like fake gear changes, although it is a two-speed gearbox.

02:44:09.000 But you'll hear when you're accelerating, there's at least like four changes.

02:44:14.000 You know, it's just like...

02:44:19.000 It feels like, because you're low, it's aggressive, the PDCC is activated, everything is like tight, tough, and you're just, I'm going to 155, I don't even notice.

02:44:29.000 How much do you like it more than your Tesla?

02:44:33.000 Tons.

02:44:34.000 Really?

02:44:35.000 Yeah, tons.

02:44:36.000 Here's what I like about Tesla.

02:44:37.000 Tesla does, what they do well is their autopilot is insane.

02:44:40.000 That's awesome.

02:44:41.000 When I had my Model S, my P100D, I loved it. 0.93

02:44:46.000 It was fast as fuck, but it felt like a video game. 0.92

02:44:49.000 The steering is just like loose. 0.99

02:44:51.000 It's like the loosest steering.

02:44:53.000 It's just overcompensated, electrically powered steering.

02:44:57.000 So I'm just like, hey, what's up?

02:44:59.000 I'm in a, you know, here's my electric car.

02:45:01.000 And it didn't, and then cornering, you could feel that body roll, that heavy car just like, ugh.

02:45:07.000 Leaning into it.

02:45:09.000 But the autopilot was amazing.

02:45:11.000 I'd set it and just let it drive for a really long time.

02:45:15.000 So Porsche doesn't have that, but also you buy a Porsche because you want to drive it.

02:45:19.000 But Porsche, on the other hand, has PDCC. What's PDCC? It's the Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, which is an anti-roll.

02:45:28.000 So it's a gearbox at the center point of each axle that fights against body roll.

02:45:33.000 On taking a hard corner.

02:45:35.000 So when I take, there's a dope corner off of Silver Lake like going into Frogtown or after Frogtown.

02:45:41.000 It's a perfect banked Perfect curve.

02:45:45.000 I take that at 75. I go far outside, cut inside.

02:45:50.000 Sometimes I'll have friends in the car and they're like, they're just freaking the fuck out.

02:45:54.000 And the car is just like, I'm not moving.

02:45:56.000 I'm glued to the ground.

02:45:58.000 And there's no body roll.

02:45:59.000 And you can even put a setting where it shows the amount of body roll that's happening on, you know, on the, on the corner.

02:46:05.000 And then you can set your G meter.

02:46:07.000 So you're like pulling like two Gs, maybe a little.

02:46:09.000 Two Gs?

02:46:10.000 I've gotten close to two Gs.

02:46:12.000 It handles that good?

02:46:13.000 Yeah, you're just cranking on it.

02:46:15.000 I mean, that thing is like...

02:46:16.000 It stops a little slower because it's so heavy, right?

02:46:20.000 It's got gigantic, gigantic carpet ceramic brakes with 10 piston calipers in the front.

02:46:25.000 10?

02:46:26.000 10, yeah.

02:46:27.000 And I think it's 6 in the back or 4 in the back.

02:46:29.000 Someone will correct me.

02:46:30.000 I've never even heard of 10 pistons.

02:46:32.000 It's crazy.

02:46:33.000 I hope I have that right. 0.94

02:46:35.000 But anyways, it's a monster.

02:46:37.000 And when I'm taking that corner, it just feels like...

02:46:40.000 It's just so solid, so rock solid.

02:46:43.000 And my 911 corner's like that, too, in a different way.

02:46:46.000 But to have a car that's 5,200 pounds, take a corner that fast and feel like, no problem, no sweat.

02:46:54.000 Wow.

02:46:54.000 The car's like, meh, whatever.

02:46:56.000 And rear wheel steering.

02:46:58.000 And torque vectoring. 1.00

02:46:59.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

02:46:59.000 Now you got me excited. 1.00

02:47:01.000 Yeah.

02:47:01.000 I love it.

02:47:03.000 I personally love it.

02:47:03.000 And I think Porsche nails that synergistic, the Venn diagram of practical.

02:47:08.000 I mean, to an extent.

02:47:10.000 Practical, usable everyday, high performance, super badass build quality.

02:47:16.000 Look at that, too.

02:47:18.000 It's beautiful.

02:47:18.000 And mine's in coffee beige.

02:47:20.000 Ooh, coffee beige.

02:47:21.000 I like it.

02:47:22.000 Coffee beige, and then I have the carbon wheels, which are kind of like a hybrid carbon ceramic.

02:47:29.000 Sorry, carbon wheels.

02:47:31.000 Carbon fiber wheels.

02:47:32.000 Now, when it comes to charging, is it as fast to charge?

02:47:36.000 Those are my wheels.

02:47:37.000 Those are dope wheels. 0.58

02:47:38.000 They're hybrid.

02:47:39.000 It's a metal frame with carbon fiber accents.

02:47:41.000 Is it as fast to charge as your Tesla was?

02:47:44.000 That's so funny.

02:47:45.000 I think that's like the test model.

02:47:47.000 It was like the pre-release, like, you know, camouflaged, whatever.

02:47:50.000 Oh, yeah.

02:47:50.000 How weird is the face on that?

02:47:51.000 Yeah, that's not the right thing.

02:47:54.000 But what were you saying?

02:47:55.000 Fast charging?

02:47:56.000 Charging, yeah.

02:47:57.000 Ten hours with, I forget, the kilowatt onboard charger.

02:48:02.000 About ten hours.

02:48:03.000 You can get a slightly faster, higher capacity charger.

02:48:10.000 Yeah.

02:48:11.000 Yeah.

02:48:16.000 Yeah.

02:48:30.000 Technically, you could charge almost a full in like 15-20 minutes from 5% state of charge to 80-85%.

02:48:38.000 In 20 minutes?

02:48:39.000 About 20 minutes, yeah.

02:48:39.000 And that's with 800?

02:48:41.000 That's with an 800-volt architecture or a 900 like Lucid has.

02:48:44.000 Now, these charging stations, they don't have the same kind of grid that Tesla has in terms of the supercharger availability, right?

02:48:50.000 Where you could...

02:48:51.000 No, the coverage is not as extensive, but pretty decent.

02:48:56.000 Yeah?

02:48:56.000 Pretty decent.

02:48:56.000 And Electrify America's doing a lot.

02:48:58.000 You know, that's the one that Porsche's invested in. 0.97

02:49:00.000 You can't use a Tesla charger, right?

02:49:02.000 You can't.

02:49:03.000 Not yet.

02:49:03.000 Although, it's funny.

02:49:04.000 I put in a Porsche charger in my garage for my Taycan, and it's so complicated.

02:49:11.000 It's like, you plug it in.

02:49:14.000 It's got to go online.

02:49:15.000 Then you put in an access code.

02:49:17.000 And then it has to go online again to verify.

02:49:19.000 Then it communicates with the car.

02:49:20.000 And then it starts charging.

02:49:21.000 I still have my Tesla charger in the garage.

02:49:25.000 And I take the Tesla charger with an adapter that goes to the right end.

02:49:29.000 I forget.

02:49:30.000 There's so many names for the charger ends.

02:49:32.000 And then you just plug it into the Taycan and it starts charging.

02:49:34.000 Really?

02:49:35.000 And I'm like, why is that?

02:49:36.000 Why did you make that so complicated, Porsche?

02:49:39.000 So if you go to a Tesla charging station and you bring...

02:49:43.000 You can't do that.

02:49:43.000 Because it's got a chip in the end that communicates with the car.

02:49:47.000 It says, this is a Tesla.

02:49:48.000 I'm sure someone's going to hack it.

02:49:50.000 You know, like they'll put one on the Taycan or whatever.

02:49:52.000 So like we have Tesla chargers in the garage here.

02:49:55.000 Yeah.

02:49:55.000 If you got a Taycan, you don't need to change it out.

02:49:57.000 Oh, you just get an adapter.

02:49:59.000 Yeah, I think it's made by a company called Electron.

02:50:01.000 It's Electron or something like that.

02:50:03.000 What do you think, Jamie?

02:50:05.000 I think I need to try one of those.

02:50:06.000 I don't want to make my boyfriend Elon mad though.

02:50:09.000 Oh, you know what?

02:50:10.000 Here's the deal.

02:50:11.000 I'm going to get the Plaid Plus.

02:50:13.000 I probably will get the Plaid Plus.

02:50:15.000 Well, it's going to go 1.9 seconds.

02:50:16.000 I know.

02:50:17.000 1.9 and 1.8.

02:50:18.000 You know, it's like Roadster fast. 1.00

02:50:20.000 So I want to experience it and I want to experience that autopilot because that shit. 0.98

02:50:24.000 I mean, back in the day, I was using that 70-75% of the time and that was like early Roadster. 0.98

02:50:29.000 Well, one of the great things about innovation and competition is that when other companies step up and make something even better, it forces the original company to catch up.

02:50:39.000 Totally.

02:50:40.000 Well, obviously Tesla's going to have that insane looking roadster. 1.00

02:50:44.000 Yes.

02:50:45.000 That roadster is going to be a preposterous vehicle.

02:50:47.000 Oh, totally.

02:50:48.000 So I'm sure that's going to handle off the charts.

02:50:50.000 I think it will be.

02:50:52.000 I mean, Tesla can get to that point. 0.90

02:50:54.000 But when you're talking about legacy car makers like Porsche, it's like...

02:50:58.000 Right.

02:50:59.000 That's their game.

02:50:59.000 Just, you know, let them have it.

02:51:01.000 It's fine.

02:51:02.000 Their jam is handling.

02:51:03.000 Yeah, it's like...

02:51:04.000 Handling, driving dynamics.

02:51:05.000 There is no substitute.

02:51:06.000 It's totally true.

02:51:07.000 It's totally true.

02:51:08.000 And you're still like, you're paying like $250 for a fully loaded...

02:51:11.000 And then there's also the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo.

02:51:14.000 Which is the wagon version of the Taycan.

02:51:16.000 Oh, I haven't seen that.

02:51:17.000 Check it out.

02:51:18.000 It's worth it.

02:51:19.000 A wagon?

02:51:19.000 Some people say it's...

02:51:21.000 I mean, they don't call it a wagon.

02:51:22.000 They call it a Cross Turismo.

02:51:24.000 What does that word even mean?

02:51:26.000 Because it's a crossover, and it's a slightly higher raised suspension, and it's got rock guards on it.

02:51:33.000 So it's kind of like an Outback.

02:51:34.000 It's like a Taycan Outback, essentially. 0.99

02:51:37.000 So there's the Cross Turismo.

02:51:38.000 Oh, it's disgusting.

02:51:39.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:51:40.000 I hate it.

02:51:41.000 Yeah, there's a better color.

02:51:44.000 There's actually Neptune Blue, which looks a better color.

02:51:45.000 So those are the rock guards on the bottom.

02:51:47.000 Rock guards.

02:51:48.000 How weird is that?

02:51:49.000 Okay, that's not terrible.

02:51:51.000 That's a regular.

02:51:52.000 That's the regular.

02:51:52.000 That's a regular.

02:51:53.000 So if you go to...

02:51:55.000 Give me some other colors on this.

02:51:57.000 Jesus Christ.

02:51:58.000 There you go.

02:51:59.000 That's not as bad, but it's still offensive.

02:52:03.000 I prefer the saloon, man.

02:52:05.000 Oh, there you go.

02:52:06.000 There's that color.

02:52:07.000 I think it's a handsome color.

02:52:08.000 It's okay.

02:52:09.000 Let me see the green.

02:52:11.000 With the black tram.

02:52:11.000 You need black tram on that and no roof.

02:52:13.000 I saw a green Ferrari 488, like a metallic green.

02:52:18.000 I don't know if it was a wrap or what.

02:52:20.000 Yeah.

02:52:21.000 Candy apple or just like?

02:52:22.000 Yes, like a candy apple green. 0.99

02:52:24.000 It was fucking beautiful. 0.99

02:52:26.000 750 horsepower. 0.99

02:52:28.000 2.7 seconds, 0-60.

02:52:30.000 Yeah.

02:52:30.000 Where's the Taycan, like the saloon version?

02:52:33.000 2.4?

02:52:34.000 2.4?

02:52:35.000 2.3?

02:52:36.000 Why don't they make a coupe?

02:52:37.000 A coupe.

02:52:38.000 I know.

02:52:39.000 I would love...

02:52:40.000 Well, you know what?

02:52:40.000 I think...

02:52:41.000 We're going to see a really dangerous, disgusting example of engineering soon from Porsche.

02:52:47.000 I think we're going to see the next 918. I think there's going to be... 0.96

02:52:53.000 It's not priority right now, but you know in the back room they're already designing it because the hybrid technology is going to be insane, plus solid-state battery technology might be available by then.

02:53:02.000 So you've got higher energy density, smaller scale, lighter car, plus it's hybrid.

02:53:08.000 We're going to...

02:53:09.000 I think it's going to be disgusting.

02:53:10.000 At a certain point, cars are just like, they're not going to be made for humans.

02:53:13.000 Robots are going to pilot them because you're going to black out.

02:53:17.000 From the G-force. 0.83

02:53:19.000 Yeah, the capabilities.

02:53:20.000 I mean, imagine if you could go back into the 1960s and bring someone to 2021, show them what a car is now.

02:53:26.000 I mean, they just wouldn't understand it.

02:53:29.000 They'd be like, why?

02:53:30.000 Yeah.

02:53:31.000 I mean, or maybe, or why?

02:53:32.000 Or they'd be so terrified.

02:53:34.000 Yeah, they'd be terrified.

02:53:35.000 They'd never understand.

02:53:36.000 I mean, we're going to have to wear flight suits, you know, those suits that have like that fluid layer.

02:53:40.000 Right.

02:53:40.000 You know, so like as you move, it's like the fluid moves up to compress the upper extremities of your body to keep you from blacking out.

02:53:46.000 Have you ever flown in a fighter jet?

02:53:49.000 No.

02:53:49.000 Experienced it?

02:53:50.000 No.

02:53:50.000 It's wild.

02:53:51.000 Have you been in a jet jet?

02:53:52.000 Yeah, I went in an F-A-18.

02:53:55.000 Oh yeah, a Hornet, right?

02:53:56.000 Oh no, F-A-18s are not Hornets.

02:53:58.000 I don't know if it's a Hornet.

02:53:59.000 But I think that's the name of the jet.

02:54:01.000 They took me up in one of them flights.

02:54:04.000 It's wild, dude.

02:54:06.000 It's hard to imagine that human beings do this and then they're getting shot at and they're banking and trying to stay conscious while they're having dogfights.

02:54:13.000 Oh my god, I know.

02:54:15.000 And plus with like the new fifth gen jets that have like torque vectoring, or not torque vectoring, I'm saying torque vectoring.

02:54:21.000 They have thrust vectoring.

02:54:23.000 So like the engines themselves can independently create, the nozzles can create different angles.

02:54:28.000 So that's why you get like Raptors doing this...

02:54:32.000 Wow.

02:54:34.000 They go up and down.

02:54:36.000 Yeah, they can propel upward and they can almost stay stationary.

02:54:39.000 And you just see all the air surfaces just like whatever.

02:54:44.000 And the SU, the Sukhois are also, the fifth gen fighters do that as well.

02:54:49.000 This thrust factoring.

02:54:50.000 It's insane, man.

02:54:51.000 I mean, they're able to bank and add thrust factoring.

02:54:54.000 It's like having rear wheel steering on whatever sports cars.

02:54:58.000 It's the same thing.

02:54:58.000 So the navigation capability is just off the charts.

02:55:00.000 I mean, it's like to be able to turn around on a target, you know, like if someone's chasing you.

02:55:05.000 There you go.

02:55:05.000 Check this out.

02:55:07.000 Look how cool.

02:55:08.000 So it's going up.

02:55:09.000 This is straight.

02:55:10.000 Now you can see it slow down, and then it's going to change its orientation.

02:55:13.000 There you go.

02:55:15.000 What?

02:55:16.000 So now, uh, look at that.

02:55:19.000 Look at that.

02:55:20.000 Look how thin it is, too.

02:55:22.000 I mean, you see all the air surfaces working.

02:55:24.000 I love that.

02:55:26.000 If you saw that, you would assume that's from another planet.

02:55:29.000 I mean, it's just insane what they can do with these things.

02:55:32.000 And these are fairly low speeds, and it's just how powerful those motors are, those Raptor engines are.

02:55:39.000 And they also have a low heat signature.

02:55:43.000 I mean, it's crazy.

02:55:44.000 Look at that.

02:55:45.000 Look at that.

02:55:46.000 It's so crazy.

02:55:47.000 It just seems fake.

02:55:48.000 It seems fake.

02:55:49.000 Like it's pausing and then flattening out and then diving down.

02:55:53.000 And they can do flat spins where the whole body of the plane is level, but it's just rotating as it's descending.

02:55:58.000 And so imagine as a weapons platform, it's just rotating in the air, just firing weapons.

02:56:04.000 I mean, I'm sure that's not how they would use it, but you could.

02:56:07.000 It would look cool in a movie.

02:56:09.000 It would look cool in a movie and a lot of complaining pilots. 0.83

02:56:14.000 Anyways, I mean...

02:56:14.000 Technology, my friend.

02:56:16.000 So many people, so many smart people out there.

02:56:19.000 So little time, and I just, you know, science, art, engineering, that's my priority.

02:56:24.000 I think that's all you ever need to worry about.

02:56:25.000 Well, I know.

02:56:26.000 Well, I love the fact that you have those combining interests, that you're such a technophile, as well as an audiophile, a musician, and a comedian, and all these things kind of piling together.

02:56:39.000 Yeah, man, I love it.

02:56:41.000 I just, like, why not, man?

02:56:42.000 Why not? 1.00

02:56:42.000 Let's fucking get people excited about all the shit you can get excited about. 1.00

02:56:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:56:46.000 Well, listen, brother, it's always a pleasure.

02:56:48.000 I'm glad we got to do it.

02:56:49.000 What a blast, man.

02:56:50.000 Glad to come down here and do it in Austin.

02:56:51.000 Yeah, thanks for having me at your Austin joint, man.

02:56:54.000 My pleasure.

02:56:54.000 And congratulations.

02:56:55.000 This is a great city, man.

02:56:56.000 Thanks, man.

02:56:56.000 I love it here.

02:56:57.000 I love it here.

02:56:57.000 And when we open up the Comedy Club, you've got to come down.

02:56:59.000 Oh, I'm so there.

02:57:01.000 All right.

02:57:01.000 I'm so there.

02:57:02.000 Great.

02:57:02.000 Best half an hour of my life.

02:57:03.000 Always fun.

02:57:04.000 Always fun.

02:57:06.000 Reggie Watts, ladies and gentlemen.

02:57:08.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 08, 2021

Joe Rogan Experience #1648 - Reggie Watts

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