The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1652 - Anthony Cumia

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

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00:00:14.000 Young Anthony Cumia, my friend, good to see you.

00:00:18.000 Everyone calls me that.

00:00:19.000 Young Anthony Cumia.

00:00:20.000 Well, he's young Jamie, so you must be young Anthony. 0.97

00:00:22.000 Dude, there is not a fucking show on earth that inspired me to do a podcast more than Opie and Anthony. 0.96

00:00:30.000 I love hearing that. 0.99

00:00:32.000 To be part of the cycle that you went through in your head to build this empire that you now have, I'm honored.

00:00:42.000 It's 100% true, and it's not just that, it's also you when you were doing Live from the Compound, when you were doing it from your house, in the basement, with a machine gun singing karaoke, with a green screen behind you.

00:00:53.000 I was like, he's having so much fun.

00:00:54.000 Jamie, do we have a bottle opener?

00:00:56.000 No.

00:00:57.000 I thought this was a regular one.

00:00:58.000 Is it?

00:00:59.000 I can open a bottle with anything, by the way.

00:01:02.000 I can open with a lighter.

00:01:04.000 I can do that.

00:01:04.000 Yeah, lighter.

00:01:05.000 My dad taught me with a belt buckle when I was out in California, learning to be a man under my father's tutelage.

00:01:12.000 This is from Phil's buddy.

00:01:13.000 What was Phil's buddy's name?

00:01:15.000 The guy that Phil Demers...

00:01:18.000 His buddy, who's like a big-time beer freak, you gotta try some of this.

00:01:23.000 It's very interesting.

00:01:24.000 It's beer, but it does not taste like regular beer, but it's very good.

00:01:28.000 And I slum it all the time with just buds.

00:01:32.000 Yeah, I mean...

00:01:33.000 People are like, oh, bud wise.

00:01:34.000 Nothing better.

00:01:35.000 You could pound a case of buds sitting out by the pool.

00:01:40.000 But then occasionally...

00:01:42.000 Cheers.

00:01:42.000 Try something else.

00:01:43.000 Cheers, Joe.

00:01:44.000 Good to see you.

00:01:45.000 Good to be in Austin.

00:01:46.000 Good to be here.

00:01:48.000 Weird, right?

00:01:49.000 Definitely a lemony thing going on.

00:01:51.000 Yeah, it's got a lemon on the cover.

00:01:52.000 A lot of lemon, wow.

00:01:53.000 It's called foos.

00:01:55.000 This really pinches the back of your tongue.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, it says wheat beer with peaches.

00:02:00.000 Oh, it's a peach.

00:02:01.000 Oh, there's a peach in there, too?

00:02:02.000 It looks like a lemon.

00:02:03.000 It tastes like a lemon.

00:02:04.000 I guess it looks like a heart with a leaf.

00:02:07.000 That ain't bad.

00:02:08.000 Good stuff.

00:02:09.000 Yeah.

00:02:09.000 I always have to think, whatever I'm putting in me, alcohol-wise, what'll that taste like coming out?

00:02:15.000 And this would probably hurt.

00:02:16.000 A lot of heartburn.

00:02:18.000 You think?

00:02:18.000 If you were throwing it up?

00:02:19.000 If you're throwing it up.

00:02:21.000 I don't think so.

00:02:22.000 I think it'd be pretty smooth.

00:02:23.000 It's not that bad.

00:02:24.000 Shouldn't you not throw up from drinking after, like, 40?

00:02:27.000 You shouldn't, but you're probably going to occasionally.

00:02:31.000 It comes with the territory.

00:02:32.000 It depends on how deep you go.

00:02:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:35.000 You're not going as deep as you are in your 20s.

00:02:37.000 Sometimes you want to throw up, right?

00:02:39.000 Sometimes you get back to your house and you're just like, let me just get this out of me.

00:02:41.000 You do the finger thing?

00:02:44.000 Just so you feel better.

00:02:46.000 Just so you can sleep.

00:02:47.000 And it's funny, if you got a girl in the house, you have to, you think you're being quiet, but there's no being quiet when you're, especially that dry heat sound, that...

00:02:59.000 Into an echo chamber, a porcelain echo.

00:03:02.000 It's like the old Victrola speaker is just pumping out your groans.

00:03:07.000 So we were talking before this podcast started that you, when you left Opie and Anthony, you went and decided to do your own thing behind a paywall.

00:03:16.000 So you're like in this position, you're sort of uncancellable.

00:03:21.000 You don't have all the trappings That everybody else has in terms of like sponsors and people coming after you.

00:03:28.000 You just have subscribers.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, this was a conscious decision because I saw it coming a while ago, the what they call cancel culture thing.

00:03:39.000 When you guys get hit with it, First, out of all the people that I've ever heard of, because when you guys had that homeless person on who said he wanted to, what did he say, he wanted to rape Condoleezza Rice?

00:03:49.000 Condoleezza Rice and the Queen of England and the First Lady. 0.86

00:03:52.000 I gotta say something about that, though.

00:03:55.000 We had just gotten to satellite radio from FM radio, and to us, this was like, all right, it opens up a whole new world of what we can do.

00:04:05.000 So I thought, what...

00:04:06.000 What better place to just showcase a homeless person?

00:04:10.000 Let's see what rantings and ramblings come out of a homeless person's mind.

00:04:14.000 So bring him up in the studio, put him in front of a mic, and let him go off.

00:04:18.000 It's satellite.

00:04:19.000 No FCC rules and regs. 0.84

00:04:21.000 And the guy starts talking about crazy stuff and raping political figures and the Queen of England. 0.50

00:04:29.000 And we think it's hilarious. 0.57

00:04:32.000 Because you're getting that insight.

00:04:34.000 You're getting into the mind of a crazy homeless guy on the street. 1.00

00:04:38.000 And the shit hits the fan. 1.00

00:04:40.000 Oh my god, Condoleezza Rice that brings the sex thing in and the race thing and all that. 1.00

00:04:45.000 And they lost their mind. 1.00

00:04:47.000 And we were like, oh shit, we're getting fired again? 1.00

00:04:50.000 Like, we're gonna get fired for this. 0.99

00:04:52.000 What happened?

00:04:53.000 You didn't get fired, but you guys got suspended for how long?

00:04:57.000 We got suspended for, I think it was a month.

00:05:00.000 I think that was a month's suspension from satellite radio, but we were still at K-Rock in New York doing that show in the morning, because we used to do both.

00:05:10.000 Yeah, we used to go across with the microphones.

00:05:11.000 I did that with you guys.

00:05:13.000 We did the walkover.

00:05:14.000 We would do terrestrial, and then we would broadcast live as we were walking down New York City with mics and comics, and we would go to the other studios.

00:05:22.000 Yeah, we would do things occasionally, like Rich Voss would go into a diner or something and just start doing stand-up in front of the customers.

00:05:30.000 It was hilarious.

00:05:31.000 Cringe stand-up.

00:05:32.000 Cringe stand-up. 1.00

00:05:33.000 These people don't know what's happening, and stupid big Club Soda Kenny would announce them. 1.00

00:05:38.000 Ladies and gentlemen, they're looking like a mass shooting is going to start. 0.99

00:05:43.000 And it was hilarious.

00:05:45.000 You guys were the birth of podcasts.

00:05:48.000 It was a podcast on the radio.

00:05:51.000 We didn't know it at the time.

00:05:52.000 Nobody knew what a podcast was.

00:05:54.000 But it was a bunch of guys that you find funny, you like hanging out with, talking about anything.

00:06:00.000 And that seems to be what the formula is.

00:06:03.000 You guys figured it out first because every other radio show that I did, like if I did Stern or anything else you did, it was very formatted.

00:06:11.000 Regimented, yeah, timed.

00:06:12.000 Like, he had some things you want to talk, he wanted to talk to me about Fear Factor, he wanted to talk to me about the UFC, he had questions about this, and, you know, it's always like, and then you have a call in, and then you have celebrity guests, and he had it all, like, very smooth.

00:06:28.000 You guys would just bring a bunch of people in, and then Patrice would start talking, and Burr would start talking, and Ari would start talking, and it was just chaos.

00:06:36.000 And we were all just having fun.

00:06:38.000 Just having fun.

00:06:40.000 When you have a room of those guys, Nick DiPaolo and Patrice, God rest his soul, and Bill Burr, Norton, all these guys, Colin Quinn, they're all in a room.

00:06:55.000 You can't lose. 0.96

00:06:57.000 People will hear it and say, holy shit, that was one of the funniest shows. 0.98

00:07:01.000 And it's like, what show? 0.99

00:07:03.000 The Opie and Anthony show.

00:07:04.000 So people remember the name of the show, but all these other guys are delivering this amazing, funny comedy.

00:07:11.000 So it worked that way.

00:07:13.000 And we embraced that and just started bringing these comics back on in different combinations.

00:07:19.000 Because you know better than anyone, some of the funniest stuff you'll ever hear... 0.96

00:07:23.000 Are guys shitting on each other? 0.99

00:07:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:26.000 And when someone was in, we called it being in the barrel. 0.99

00:07:30.000 And that could consist of wearing a shirt. 0.99

00:07:33.000 You come in wearing a shirt and Patrice goes, what the fuck? 0.99

00:07:37.000 What kind of shirt is that you wear? 1.00

00:07:39.000 Where the fuck you get... 1.00

00:07:41.000 And now everyone's on your shirt. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Now you're sitting there going – you're looking at all the comics going, what can I use to get this off me? 0.99

00:07:49.000 So you'd have to shit on Voss's teeth or – Right, always. 1.00

00:07:53.000 So it was this constant battle to get – The shit off of you. 1.00

00:07:59.000 And it was funny every fucking time. 0.99

00:08:02.000 And you guys were so great at letting the comics just go wild and not put any restrictions on anybody and not try to control the conversation. 0.98

00:08:09.000 Just let it have fun.

00:08:11.000 Just let it breathe.

00:08:12.000 A lot of shows.

00:08:12.000 A lot of hosts.

00:08:13.000 And this is something you do.

00:08:15.000 We're good to go.

00:08:37.000 Back off. 1.00

00:08:38.000 Leave it the fuck alone. 1.00

00:08:39.000 It's going to be great. 1.00

00:08:40.000 People are going to love it.

00:08:41.000 And they're going to go, oh, that was on the Opie and Anthony show.

00:08:45.000 So it doesn't really matter who's saying it.

00:08:47.000 Yeah, you guys had figured it out.

00:08:49.000 It really is the birth of podcasts.

00:08:50.000 And I learned a lot from doing that show.

00:08:53.000 And I also learned that I wanted to do it.

00:08:56.000 Because when I would do your show, I was like, God, I want to do a show like this.

00:09:00.000 I want to do something like this.

00:09:01.000 Because when I did regular radio, if I did on tour, I would say, oh, that may be fun to do a regular radio show.

00:09:08.000 But then I would be like, they will never hire me. 0.99

00:09:11.000 I will say something stupid. 0.99

00:09:12.000 I'll get fired. 1.00

00:09:13.000 This is not going to work out for me.

00:09:15.000 But I'd do your show, and I'd be like, huh.

00:09:17.000 I'd be like, I think I can do this.

00:09:20.000 No, this I think I can do.

00:09:21.000 I think I can do this.

00:09:22.000 I was paranoid because I never went to school for radio.

00:09:25.000 I was in construction until my early to mid-30s, dude.

00:09:30.000 I got into radio late.

00:09:32.000 And my impression was always, if I didn't know the alloy of the metal in the transmitter antenna, there's no way you're getting into radio. 0.99

00:09:40.000 Like, I thought you had to know all the shit that they taught you in radio school. 0.96

00:09:44.000 And the fact of the matter was, these jocks were constantly looking for somebody that was entertaining. 0.99

00:09:51.000 I never realized how desperate a lot of these jocks are for somebody that could make people laugh.

00:10:00.000 Someone with varied interests, too.

00:10:02.000 Someone who was interesting, who could talk about different things.

00:10:05.000 Talk about a lot of different things. 0.99

00:10:07.000 Sometimes you've got to talk out your ass like you almost kind of know what it's about. 0.99

00:10:12.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.99

00:10:12.000 But the other thing about, like, what you guys did was you created a safe place for men. 0.99

00:10:21.000 Like, where you could just be a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:10:23.000 One of the last bastions of... 1.00

00:10:25.000 But that's the thing.

00:10:26.000 It's like, there's a lot of men out there, but there's not a lot of entertainment that's geared towards men.

00:10:31.000 And one of the things that comes up on my podcast when the advertising people get to talk and they're like, Jesus Christ, he's got like 94% men.

00:10:39.000 Like, what is going on here?

00:10:40.000 This is crazy.

00:10:41.000 I'm like...

00:10:42.000 They're not represented.

00:10:43.000 Men are not represented.

00:10:45.000 It's like, I don't know what the number is of regular television, but it's not geared towards men.

00:10:50.000 No, not at all.

00:10:51.000 There's like The Talk and The View, and there's a lot of these shows that are geared towards women, but it turns like a man show.

00:10:59.000 You can't have a male-oriented show on network television.

00:11:04.000 It would be toxic.

00:11:05.000 It's a personal affront to feminism and women. 1.00

00:11:09.000 Regardless, it's just men being men.

00:11:12.000 This is weird, right?

00:11:13.000 I don't know where this idea came from that in the past even couple of decades, which relative to a tortoise or a mayfly, it varies how long a period of time that is.

00:11:28.000 In that period of time, we as humans were supposed to have physically and mentally evolved to this point where men don't still want to talk about tits and cars and lifestyle stuff and bash each other guns, of course.

00:11:44.000 I think there are people that actually think we have evolved out of that.

00:11:50.000 Instead of being brainwashed.

00:11:52.000 You know why?

00:11:53.000 Because there's a lot of men that are henpecked and they work in some terrible job where human resources is breathing down their neck and they have neutered themselves and they put themselves in this position of like this sort of like non-man.

00:12:05.000 Yes, non-man.

00:12:07.000 Yeah, and then because of that they chastise other free men.

00:12:11.000 Like, look at this, this is toxic masculinity in its finest form.

00:12:14.000 And they say all these crazy things like...

00:12:17.000 You're not free.

00:12:19.000 It's also equated somehow or another with cruelty, with being a bad person, with being a shitty person, just by joking around or talking about the things that we like to talk about. 0.77

00:12:32.000 Yeah, I hear punching down a lot is a bad thing. 0.85

00:12:36.000 That was your whole show.

00:12:38.000 Yeah, that was the entire show.

00:12:40.000 The entire 20-year history of the Opie and Anthony show.

00:12:43.000 There was never a punch that got past the 180-degree mark.

00:12:48.000 You guys don't get enough credit.

00:12:50.000 I say it every time I can that you were the inspiration for podcasts, without a doubt.

00:12:56.000 It really is.

00:12:56.000 I think for what Howard did for the shock jock genre in radio, we kind of were right at that precipice of radio and podcast when that happened.

00:13:09.000 And I think what we were doing was better suited to a podcast than it was a radio show.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:13:15.000 But it was a great radio show, too, though.

00:13:17.000 Yeah, but it was a great radio show.

00:13:18.000 Absolutely.

00:13:19.000 The problem is the suits.

00:13:20.000 The problem was not the content.

00:13:22.000 Always.

00:13:22.000 The problem was the suits.

00:13:23.000 The problem is people go, hey, hey, hey, you can't.

00:13:25.000 This is not...

00:13:26.000 Like, meanwhile, did you just see what happened?

00:13:28.000 Everyone was crying, laughing.

00:13:29.000 That's entertainment.

00:13:31.000 Yeah, that's what they want. 0.97

00:13:32.000 It got to a point where early on, even when I got in, which was, again, late in the game, but early on in the 80s and 90s, all they gave a shit about were ratings. 0.98

00:13:44.000 If you had ratings and you did something stupid, you'd get this... 0.98

00:13:49.000 Slap on the wrist in public and behind the door with the GM and the PD and all the other management people, they'd be like, oh my god, that was great. 1.00

00:13:58.000 Great job.

00:13:59.000 Oh, look, take off a week paid.

00:14:02.000 We'll say you're suspended and that's it.

00:14:03.000 They really did this.

00:14:04.000 And we went through a few of those.

00:14:06.000 And it turned into they really did get mad.

00:14:10.000 And they really started suspending you without pay and firing you.

00:14:15.000 And these were these suits, like you say, That just didn't understand the talent end of the business anymore.

00:14:21.000 And when radio stations were owned by mom-and-pop operations, we were at WAF up in Massachusetts, and it was owned by Zappos Communications.

00:14:31.000 I met Zappos.

00:14:33.000 I met the guy.

00:14:35.000 When we went to Infinity Broadcasting, there was no Mr. Infinity.

00:14:39.000 There was Mel Karmazin, and there was all the suits from CBS. It got big.

00:14:44.000 It got real big.

00:14:44.000 And CBS has affiliates, and they also deal in laundry detergent with this subsidiary, and you say something, and baby diapers don't sell.

00:14:55.000 That's when it got really fucked up, and personalities weren't able to do what they do anymore, because now you're fucking up their sales in the burger industry. 0.96

00:15:06.000 Zappus owned a fucking radio station, and he loved when his radio station got ratings. 0.98

00:15:13.000 That was all there was to it. 0.99

00:15:14.000 Now? 1.00

00:15:15.000 It's all a conglomerate of bullshit. 0.99

00:15:17.000 As things get big, when they get bigger, things generally get more complicated and you lose any freedom. 0.99

00:15:24.000 You lose any of the magic.

00:15:26.000 One of the best things that happened with this podcast, like in this weird journey from doing it in my spare bedroom to doing it in a weird studio to all the way to Spotify is... 0.99

00:15:44.000 This is the fucking show. 0.99

00:15:46.000 It's a skeleton crew. 1.00

00:15:49.000 I have a manager, and then there's some people that argue with her, and I don't pay attention. 0.67

00:15:56.000 I go, we all right?

00:15:57.000 I'm not listening.

00:15:58.000 So I'm never involved in meetings.

00:16:00.000 I don't have any conversations with advertisers.

00:16:03.000 I have no conversations with suits. 0.97

00:16:05.000 Spotify has never said a goddamn thing to me. 0.98

00:16:08.000 They're amazing. 0.94

00:16:09.000 Isn't that great? 1.00

00:16:11.000 They're fucking great. 1.00

00:16:11.000 They don't say shit. 1.00

00:16:12.000 And I tested it, too, like when I brought Alex Jones on. 1.00

00:16:15.000 Yes.

00:16:16.000 I was like, let's see.

00:16:17.000 Let's see. 1.00

00:16:18.000 You guys talk a lot of shit. 1.00

00:16:19.000 Let's see. 1.00

00:16:20.000 Fluoride! 0.98

00:16:20.000 Fluoride turns the frogs gay! 0.98

00:16:22.000 Yeah.

00:16:22.000 And you're like, oh, okay.

00:16:23.000 It wasn't fluoride?

00:16:24.000 No.

00:16:24.000 I think fluoride.

00:16:25.000 Some other stuff.

00:16:26.000 It might be something else.

00:16:27.000 Well, it's the phthalates, right?

00:16:29.000 Whatever it is, it's obviously the globalists.

00:16:31.000 Yeah.

00:16:32.000 I love that guy. 1.00

00:16:33.000 That fucking guy is right way more than he's wrong. 1.00

00:16:35.000 Oh my god, yes. 0.99

00:16:37.000 Way more, especially now when people are talking about actual microchips being injected into your arm to see if you have COVID-19. 0.97

00:16:43.000 He's like, I fucking told you, Joe Rogan. 0.88

00:16:44.000 It sounded preposterous years ago when he was saying a lot of this stuff. 0.98

00:16:48.000 And as it all starts coming to fruition, you're like, wait, Alex Jones had it?

00:16:53.000 He was the guy that was saying all this? 0.98

00:16:55.000 But then other people have said he's thrown so much shit against the wall, something's got to stick. 0.99

00:16:59.000 That's true, too. 0.99

00:17:01.000 That's true, too.

00:17:01.000 But I think it's like, honestly, he's right 80% of the time.

00:17:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:05.000 Don't get me wrong, I adore the guy.

00:17:07.000 I sit in for his show.

00:17:10.000 I was doing every Thursday, I would do the last hour of his show.

00:17:14.000 I'd do a crossover with him, and then I had the InfoWars logo behind me, and I would do his show, and it was great!

00:17:19.000 It was fantastic!

00:17:21.000 I love the guy.

00:17:22.000 He's another guy that just has been cancelled, and has to just keep chugging along.

00:17:28.000 Tell you what, though, they have removed him from all social media and all that stuff, but he's still doing great.

00:17:32.000 His subscribers are very high, and His studio is two miles from here.

00:17:38.000 I've done his show.

00:17:39.000 We got hammered.

00:17:40.000 Oh, I know.

00:17:41.000 I've seen. 0.98

00:17:42.000 Ridiculous. 0.97

00:17:42.000 Talked about interdimensional beings. 0.97

00:17:45.000 Interdimensional beings.

00:17:45.000 I love the guy.

00:17:46.000 When I see a video, if I see someone sends me a video, and I see Alex Jones peeking out of the top of that armored vehicle with a bullhorn, I'm like... 0.98

00:17:56.000 I am fucking watching this. 0.96

00:17:59.000 I've been to that armored thing. 0.99

00:18:01.000 He's got that thing out there.

00:18:02.000 He goes, yeah, we got this just in case it's protest.

00:18:04.000 Sometimes we go to a place and Antifa wants to come after us. 0.75

00:18:07.000 We just hide in this thing.

00:18:07.000 It's hilarious.

00:18:09.000 Like, I think what mainstream media and the people, the powers that be, they have so many names in their dark little corners.

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:21.000 They discredit people.

00:18:23.000 That's a job, is to discredit people. 0.97

00:18:26.000 To put things out there, a preemptive strike of an idea or an opinion or a theory, so that when someone says it, people already go, oh, no, I heard that's bullshit already. 0.95

00:18:41.000 And that's a job.

00:18:43.000 That's a government agency and a job that purposefully discredits people that are getting a little too close to what's real.

00:18:52.000 Well, also, how about ideas?

00:18:54.000 Like, here's a big one.

00:18:55.000 The idea that this virus came from a lab in Wuhan.

00:19:00.000 That was so discredited.

00:19:02.000 There was an article in one of them liberal rags.

00:19:05.000 It was like, Joe Rogan promotes harmful lie about Wuhan lab being the source of this virus.

00:19:13.000 No, it is, mostly.

00:19:14.000 Most likely.

00:19:15.000 The source of the virus.

00:19:16.000 Sure.

00:19:17.000 They don't know exactly, but there's no transitionary animal.

00:19:20.000 There's no animal that they can show it jumped from this to this to humans.

00:19:22.000 No, so quickly and so efficiently.

00:19:25.000 I mean, you saw Rand Paul talking to Fauci about it.

00:19:27.000 Oh, great.

00:19:28.000 The gain-of-function research conversation the other day.

00:19:29.000 Yes, I love Rand Paul.

00:19:31.000 And the fact that he got him to sort of skirt around the truth.

00:19:36.000 Yeah.

00:19:36.000 The way he was addressing those things.

00:19:38.000 Yes.

00:19:39.000 And he's like, look, you do fund that.

00:19:41.000 You fund it right here in America.

00:19:42.000 By the way, Dr. Rand Paul.

00:19:45.000 Yes, that's why it helps.

00:19:46.000 Which is a huge issue.

00:19:47.000 They hate that it's Dr. Rand Paul.

00:19:50.000 And that he actually knows what he's talking about.

00:19:52.000 He knows what he's talking about!

00:19:54.000 He can argue the points.

00:19:55.000 He understands what gain-of-function research actually is, and he knows who the players involved are.

00:20:00.000 He knows the different organizations that are involved.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, there are a few of these politicians that really do either they are so good at bullshitting the public or there's a few that really do seem to be behind the people and what they need and what they want and know how to talk about it.

00:20:20.000 I know one of the one of the rising stars and he's been in the business for years is Ted Cruz here in Texas.

00:20:27.000 Ted has come out after the Trump thing from going from this guy that people went, ah, Ted Cruz.

00:20:33.000 Now he's like, tough guy.

00:20:35.000 He gets up there, he starts interrogating these people.

00:20:38.000 When he was talking to them about censorship.

00:20:40.000 Yes.

00:20:41.000 Yes, it was very good.

00:20:42.000 It was.

00:20:43.000 He was very good at that.

00:20:43.000 Now, do you think he's sincere or did he find a new act?

00:20:48.000 It's a hard sell.

00:20:49.000 Yeah!

00:20:50.000 Because he got busted going to Cancun, and he said, I wasn't really going to Cancun, and I was just going to come right back, but it turned out his ticket was for five days later, and he's like, well, I'm back.

00:21:01.000 But meanwhile, you can be good sometimes.

00:21:07.000 You can be right about a lot of things, and I think that's what he is.

00:21:10.000 He's right about a lot of things.

00:21:12.000 Rand Paul, I agree with Way more than I think any other politician has been talking about this issue in specific.

00:21:21.000 And he seems very sincere in what he's saying.

00:21:24.000 When he talked to Fauci, he's like, why do you have two masks on?

00:21:26.000 You've been vaccinated.

00:21:27.000 Isn't this theater?

00:21:28.000 Isn't this theater? 1.00

00:21:29.000 And you see Fauci going, I don't, this motherfucker's getting me right now. 0.99

00:21:33.000 You're not supposed to say this. 0.99

00:21:34.000 Yeah, because that is what it is.

00:21:37.000 And Rand is also a guy who had COVID. You know?

00:21:40.000 Yep.

00:21:41.000 The only thing I want to know why his neighbor attacked him before I fully get behind him.

00:21:45.000 Isn't that weird?

00:21:46.000 There was no real answer to why his neighbor almost killed him.

00:21:50.000 I know.

00:21:50.000 Broke his lung.

00:21:51.000 Yeah.

00:21:52.000 Tackled him.

00:21:53.000 Snapped his rib. 0.99

00:21:54.000 I mean, what the fuck was going on there? 1.00

00:21:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:55.000 What did you say to your neighbor? 0.99

00:21:57.000 Yeah, there were two sides to everything.

00:21:59.000 I don't know.

00:22:00.000 I would like to know both sides.

00:22:02.000 Obviously, his neighbor's wacky because he attacked him from behind and tackled him.

00:22:07.000 Jesus Christ.

00:22:08.000 Any of those neighbor wars are always hilarious.

00:22:12.000 I remember...

00:22:14.000 Brewer would tell a story years ago about the pizza guy that lived near him.

00:22:18.000 And it's a great story.

00:22:20.000 It's way too long to even kind of amend here and tell you.

00:22:23.000 But he was a mental patient.

00:22:25.000 And Brewer had to deal with him.

00:22:27.000 And, you know, Brewer, he's not really into conflict like that.

00:22:33.000 But it's funny.

00:22:33.000 But I love those, especially now with the cameras everywhere.

00:22:38.000 Cameras being everywhere has changed our society.

00:22:43.000 And again, I don't know, for the good, like social media is terrible.

00:22:46.000 I've said for years it's one of the worst things that have happened to us as a people.

00:22:52.000 Maybe we shouldn't be able to share so many ideas with each other.

00:22:55.000 But cameras, have you noticed every crime that happens, they got eight different angles on it now?

00:23:01.000 It's weird.

00:23:02.000 It's amazing.

00:23:03.000 I don't think there's anywhere you can go to kill someone anymore with that, unless, you know, you're in a national park somewhere.

00:23:10.000 But even then, you don't.

00:23:11.000 You were saying they caught that guy that did the mass shooting in Times Square?

00:23:14.000 Yeah, yeah, they got that guy.

00:23:16.000 They got him on camera, right?

00:23:17.000 A bunch of different security cameras.

00:23:19.000 And you'd think, like, these aren't good people that you look at the picture and go, oh, I know who that is, but I'm going to keep it cool.

00:23:26.000 Like, people are like, oh, yeah, I'm turning this guy in.

00:23:29.000 So it's very hard to not get caught.

00:23:31.000 And then he flees down to Florida, which has no mass rules.

00:23:36.000 Wouldn't you want to be where everyone can only see half their face?

00:23:39.000 Yeah, you'd want to go to LA. And they didn't defund the police.

00:23:43.000 The worst place you could go is Florida.

00:23:46.000 They actually refunded the police.

00:23:48.000 They extra-funded the police.

00:23:50.000 Extra-funded.

00:23:51.000 He gave bonuses out.

00:23:53.000 Yeah, Santorum gave bonuses out.

00:23:55.000 DeSantis.

00:23:56.000 DeSantis, I'm sorry.

00:23:58.000 DeSantis?

00:23:58.000 He could be the president.

00:24:00.000 He really could.

00:24:01.000 People are getting on board here.

00:24:03.000 He's got a sane Trump vibe.

00:24:07.000 Like he's signing things in front of the press.

00:24:09.000 He'll hold it up like Trump did.

00:24:10.000 I don't think it's a Trump vibe at all because he's not bamboisterous. 1.00

00:24:13.000 Is that a word?

00:24:14.000 It should be.

00:24:15.000 It should be.

00:24:16.000 It's not.

00:24:16.000 Right what I'm saying.

00:24:18.000 It describes Trump.

00:24:18.000 I don't know if that's a word.

00:24:20.000 Famboisterous.

00:24:20.000 It seems like it should be.

00:24:21.000 But it's more of that in-your-face, unapologetic part.

00:24:24.000 He's unapologetic, but he's actually rational and calm.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:27.000 And even when he talked about opening up Florida and everybody was criticizing him, he did it on a chart and he showed, we're going to protect our vulnerable.

00:24:35.000 And he says it calm and it's like an even keel when he has a conversation.

00:24:40.000 There's no crazy...

00:24:41.000 There's no crazy spikes.

00:24:44.000 You know?

00:24:45.000 You don't like the crazy spikes?

00:24:47.000 Well, they get people a little nervous.

00:24:49.000 Dude, I was just...

00:24:51.000 And it's weird because I really can't separate sometimes the entertainer.

00:24:55.000 Pardon everyone charged for defying COVID rules.

00:24:59.000 Wow.

00:24:59.000 He's going to pardon everyone?

00:25:01.000 A lot of people are going to move to Florida.

00:25:03.000 Is it retroactive?

00:25:04.000 If you get busted in New York and you go to Florida and they'll let you off the hook?

00:25:08.000 Yeah, sure.

00:25:09.000 Like that guy who owns the gym?

00:25:10.000 Trust him.

00:25:11.000 Just in Florida?

00:25:13.000 The guy owns a gym in New Jersey?

00:25:15.000 They boarded it up, and he's gotta bust it down, and then the cops show up.

00:25:20.000 I can't imagine these cops want to do this.

00:25:23.000 No.

00:25:23.000 It's the health department.

00:25:25.000 They want to reinforce this idea that they're in control, and then it's a game.

00:25:29.000 Because once they're in control, then you violate that.

00:25:32.000 Especially gyms. 0.99

00:25:34.000 They're literally the healthiest fucking place on earth. 0.99

00:25:37.000 It's like where people actually go to get healthy. 0.99

00:25:39.000 You're keeping them from the one thing that's been statistically proven to aid your immune system, other than vitamins, exercise.

00:25:50.000 None of it makes sense.

00:25:52.000 No one that goes to a gym is in the dangerous demo.

00:25:57.000 And if you are, you're trying to get out of that demo.

00:26:00.000 You're in the gym because you're trying to get out of the obesity demo.

00:26:04.000 Doesn't anyone see, when you think of the beginning of this whole thing and it was the flatten the curve thing, the flatten the curve thing was completely based on, hey, we know everyone's eventually going to get this.

00:26:17.000 We just need to spread out the time of everyone getting it so we don't get overwhelmed with emergency care and the hospitals and ventilators and whatnot.

00:26:25.000 And that makes sense.

00:26:26.000 I could get it.

00:26:27.000 You get this huge spike and then it goes away.

00:26:29.000 You want to spread it out.

00:26:31.000 But when did it turn into, well, no, now we're on the no one can ever get it, ever, ever, and we need to keep you from touching each other or being in a sports complex or eating dinner.

00:26:41.000 That was never supposed to be part of it.

00:26:44.000 We were supposed to get this as healthy people getting a flu.

00:26:49.000 Protect the elderly, protect the pre-existing conditions, people with asthma or other problems.

00:26:57.000 When did it turn into, hey, you want to see a Yankee game?

00:27:01.000 Well, you got to have your phone with a code on it now.

00:27:05.000 And I'm not kidding.

00:27:06.000 I watched this piece about this guy.

00:27:08.000 It was an NBC News piece.

00:27:10.000 This guy goes to Yankee Stadium.

00:27:11.000 He's going to show you what it takes to go to a Yankee game.

00:27:14.000 And he's like, all these steps.

00:27:17.000 He needed to put his info into a government site to pop a code up on his phone to To give to someone with his results, his medical results, to some guy standing in front of Yankee Stadium, taking his temperature, clicking that, and then he goes,

00:27:33.000 and social distancing, and wearing a mask, and then they show him in the seats, and he goes, and you're in!

00:27:39.000 Like, what?

00:27:40.000 It was a big, complex thing!

00:27:43.000 Here's how you're supposed to go to the game.

00:27:45.000 Hey, Bobby, I got a ticket to the Yankee game.

00:27:47.000 You want to go?

00:27:48.000 Okay, cool.

00:27:48.000 Meet me at the subway.

00:27:49.000 There.

00:27:50.000 You're in.

00:27:51.000 Simple as that.

00:27:52.000 I think originally they thought that the virus would burn out if everybody stayed home.

00:27:57.000 They thought whoever got it would get over it and then we would go back out and no one would infect anybody.

00:28:03.000 Yeah.

00:28:03.000 That was a thought.

00:28:04.000 So it wasn't just that everybody was going to get it and we're going to flatten the curve.

00:28:08.000 The idea was like, let the virus burn out because no one's going to reinfect anybody.

00:28:13.000 But how long was that supposed to take?

00:28:15.000 No one at the beginning was told, hey, guess what? 1.00

00:28:18.000 In over a year, you're still going to be dealing with this bullshit. 0.99

00:28:21.000 No, they thought it was two weeks. 1.00

00:28:22.000 Two weeks, right.

00:28:23.000 Two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:28:24.000 But you know what it's like?

00:28:25.000 It's like a lot of what Jordan Peterson talked about when he was talking about rules in Canada.

00:28:29.000 That they were trying to enforce rules for required speech.

00:28:35.000 And that when you would do this, he's like, there's a real problem with doing this.

00:28:40.000 If you have compelled speech laws, he's like, because then they keep pushing it further and further and further.

00:28:45.000 You have to have freedom of speech and it has to be steadfast.

00:28:49.000 It's got to be absolute, right?

00:28:50.000 It has to be absolute, because even people go, well, freedom of speech is not that important. 0.93

00:28:54.000 Oh my god, man, it's so fucking important. 0.74

00:28:56.000 The utmost. 0.94

00:28:56.000 Because if you alter it a little bit, then it leaves wiggle room to continue moving it left and right, depending on who's in power. 0.94

00:29:05.000 It can go really far left or really far right because it turns out it's not really about what's right or what's wrong.

00:29:11.000 It's about who is in power and what they believe and what ideology they're supporting.

00:29:17.000 That's what you're seeing right now with these social media platforms that have this ability to just decide what the narrative is and block people from doing things.

00:29:25.000 I talked about this in the podcast.

00:29:26.000 I tried to share a video with a friend where there was a doctor talking about ivermectin.

00:29:33.000 And I was like, you know, because this friend of mine, he knows a lot.

00:29:37.000 He's a very smart guy.

00:29:37.000 And I said, hey, is this true?

00:29:39.000 Is this doctor saying that ivermectin cures 99% of the people's 99 effective treatment of COVID, particularly if you catch it quickly?

00:29:47.000 So I tried to send it to him in a DM and it wouldn't send.

00:29:50.000 Oh my god, it wouldn't even send.

00:29:52.000 It would not send.

00:29:53.000 So I'm like, maybe my connection fucked up.

00:29:56.000 Let me try it again.

00:29:57.000 And then I send him a message.

00:29:58.000 For some reason it's not sending.

00:30:00.000 The message goes through.

00:30:01.000 That message goes through.

00:30:02.000 I said, let me try to send it again.

00:30:04.000 Try to send it again.

00:30:04.000 No, it wouldn't send.

00:30:05.000 I'm like, oh my god, give me your email address.

00:30:08.000 So I had to get his email address. 0.99

00:30:09.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:30:09.000 He gave me his email address. 0.99

00:30:10.000 I sent it to him through email.

00:30:11.000 So there's an algorithm that's finding these words?

00:30:13.000 Exactly.

00:30:14.000 It's not words.

00:30:14.000 It's a specific video.

00:30:16.000 It's a specific link.

00:30:17.000 Oh, a video itself.

00:30:18.000 Okay.

00:30:18.000 So it was a link to this video itself.

00:30:20.000 Someone had reported it or it had been deemed not worthy for sharing.

00:30:24.000 But it's a doctor.

00:30:25.000 It's an actual medical doctor who treats patients.

00:30:29.000 That didn't seem to matter.

00:30:29.000 Who's discussing why ivermectin works, the effectiveness of ivermectin, and all of his success that he's had with his clients.

00:30:36.000 Wrong science.

00:30:38.000 What he was saying, though, where it gets disturbing, he was saying that the reason why this is so controversial is because you can't fund vaccines when there's an effective treatment.

00:30:49.000 Then there's no incentive.

00:30:52.000 Right.

00:30:54.000 And I don't know if that's why.

00:30:55.000 I think more likely there's people that are in social media that are doing these, that are in charge of what they censor and not censor.

00:31:04.000 They think they're doing the right thing.

00:31:05.000 In their eyes, they're stopping people from promoting harmful propaganda and misinformation.

00:31:12.000 But isn't that, you know, you could go back to the classic, there were a lot of people that thought they were doing the right thing in history.

00:31:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:19.000 And that's Jordan Peterson's point.

00:31:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:21.000 I love Jordan.

00:31:22.000 I love him.

00:31:23.000 My chick actually turned me on to Jordan Peterson. 1.00

00:31:26.000 And I watch him now, and I just, I kind of feel bad for him.

00:31:32.000 He seems so, like, beaten down at this point.

00:31:36.000 And I know about his medical problems and addictions and stuff, but you watch a video from three years ago, and this guy had a lot more pep and sounded better.

00:31:45.000 He'll be back.

00:31:46.000 And now I saw him on Tucker Carlson about a week ago. 0.99

00:31:50.000 And I was like, oh fuck, this guy really seems down. 0.99

00:31:53.000 Like mentally, too. 1.00

00:31:55.000 He just doesn't have that energy.

00:31:57.000 Physically, I think that benzodiazepine, and I talked to Hamilton Morris about that.

00:32:02.000 Apparently, it's one of the most difficult things to kick.

00:32:06.000 What is that, like Xanax?

00:32:08.000 Yeah, and some other ones.

00:32:10.000 But benzos and alcohol are two of the rare things that when you're addicted to them, they'll kill you if you get off them too quick.

00:32:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:19.000 So he had a really hard time of it physically, to the point where he and I talked about him doing the show again, and I said, I really want to do it in person.

00:32:29.000 Let me know when you can do it in person.

00:32:30.000 He's like, I just can't deal with travel right now.

00:32:33.000 I'm not physically capable to travel yet.

00:32:36.000 Dude, I had to go to rehab for a crime that I committed, so they said.

00:32:43.000 You know Vinnie Brand from The Stress Factory? 0.98

00:32:46.000 I was going out with his daughter for a while, Danny Brand, and she was just, if anyone could push your buttons, it was fucking Danny Brand. 1.00

00:32:56.000 She was a mental patient. 0.99

00:32:59.000 But, you know, we're going out.

00:33:01.000 Allegedly.

00:33:02.000 Allegedly.

00:33:03.000 Well, no, no.

00:33:04.000 I could say that.

00:33:05.000 Disavow, Joe.

00:33:06.000 Disavow.

00:33:07.000 So we'd get into fights all the time.

00:33:11.000 You could talk to every single girlfriend I've ever had since I was 13 years old, and every girlfriend I've had since that episode.

00:33:21.000 None of them will say I'm a physical person when I get into an argument with anybody.

00:33:28.000 This fight was like throwing and breaking each other's phones and yelling and she's videoing it live so it's streaming and I'm drunk and it was just bad all over.

00:33:45.000 Bad all over.

00:33:46.000 I'm like if I hadn't gotten fired for the Times Square thing this would have, you know, fired me anyway. 0.99

00:33:52.000 So all this shit happens. 0.99

00:33:54.000 I grab her hand and I bit her hand. 1.00

00:33:57.000 I was just pissed.

00:33:58.000 I was pissed.

00:33:59.000 I didn't want to hit her or anything.

00:34:01.000 You bit her? 0.97

00:34:02.000 A waif of a girl, you know. 0.98

00:34:04.000 And I just bit her hand.

00:34:05.000 I was like, argh.

00:34:07.000 No blood or anything.

00:34:08.000 I just bit her hand. 0.99

00:34:10.000 Then the fight calms down.

00:34:13.000 We decide to actually drive to the Apple Store to buy ourselves new phones.

00:34:18.000 So she gets in the car.

00:34:19.000 We drive.

00:34:20.000 I come back. 1.00

00:34:22.000 Cops all around my fucking house. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Because she had streamed it live. 1.00

00:34:25.000 She had streamed it live.

00:34:26.000 Someone had saw it and called the cops to come to the house.

00:34:29.000 Well, they bring her in the house. 1.00

00:34:31.000 I'm standing outside.

00:34:33.000 And they bring her in with a girl cop. 1.00

00:34:35.000 And I'm sure she's like, well, what happened?

00:34:38.000 Well, did he do this?

00:34:39.000 Did he mean this? 0.99

00:34:41.000 Before I know it, they're like, they fucking grabbed my pistol. 0.99

00:34:46.000 They fucking handcuffed me. 0.99

00:34:48.000 I'm like, I'd never been arrested in my life. 0.99

00:34:51.000 Never.

00:34:52.000 Ever.

00:34:53.000 And that whole thing started this time.

00:34:58.000 My experience with the legal system. 1.00

00:35:00.000 And it is fucked. 1.00

00:35:03.000 As a guy, you're just screwed. 1.00

00:35:05.000 And it's this whole thing where you don't even get... 0.95

00:35:09.000 It's not like TV or the movies.

00:35:11.000 I would like to present to you...

00:35:13.000 They want everything to be pled out.

00:35:15.000 So I had to plea...

00:35:18.000 And sit there and do one of those things where you stand there and go, yes, I placed my arm on her throat. 0.89

00:35:25.000 When you say they want everything to plead out, is that because the courts are too overcrowded?

00:35:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:30.000 They just bam, bam, bam. 0.99

00:35:31.000 They want shit to just go through. 0.99

00:35:33.000 It's nothing. 0.99

00:35:34.000 When we see a trial on television, it's an anomaly.

00:35:39.000 Trials don't happen.

00:35:40.000 Plea bargains happen constantly.

00:35:42.000 And they're never really...

00:35:44.000 What happened?

00:35:45.000 You're pleading to something just to get off the hook.

00:35:49.000 They told me, all right, we'll bring it down to a harassment thing. 1.00

00:35:52.000 It would be like going down the street and, you know, hey, you're an asshole, or whistling to a girl. 1.00

00:35:57.000 Right, right. 1.00

00:35:57.000 And now I could go, huh, should I spend tens of thousands, if not hundred thousand dollars, defending myself where a jury could just go, I don't like this guy, and give me the big charge? 1.00

00:36:11.000 Or should I just plea?

00:36:13.000 And then I won't have a felony on my record.

00:36:16.000 I won't have a violation, not even a misdemeanor.

00:36:19.000 So of course you take that.

00:36:22.000 But everything gets twisted around.

00:36:25.000 Everything gets twisted.

00:36:27.000 Nothing's real.

00:36:28.000 They've done stories about you in the news where you look and go, oh, my God, that is the most inaccurate thing I've ever seen.

00:36:34.000 And you think at first it's just about you.

00:36:37.000 And then you realize, oh, wait, they're getting everything wrong.

00:36:42.000 It's not just me.

00:36:43.000 Any story they do is a lie.

00:36:46.000 Well, they go towards the most sensational version of it possible because that's their business.

00:36:51.000 Their business is selling clicks.

00:36:53.000 It should have been informing the people.

00:36:56.000 That's kind of naive.

00:36:56.000 That's not as profitable.

00:36:57.000 No, it's not.

00:36:58.000 Back in the old days, I think it was part of TV stations licensing that they had to provide a certain amount of time to inform the people.

00:37:07.000 Yeah.

00:37:08.000 We'll put a half hour, some guy will read the news, that'll cover our FCC obligation to inform the people.

00:37:14.000 That's what PSAs used to be about and stuff.

00:37:16.000 It was just filling time that the FCC said, because you're a licensed broadcaster, you need to do these things.

00:37:22.000 And then someone somewhere went...

00:37:25.000 I think we can make money off of this.

00:37:27.000 What?

00:37:27.000 Who's going to buy time on a news show?

00:37:30.000 It's like, well, if we make the news a little titillating and spike it up a little bit.

00:37:36.000 And then you got shows like A Current Affair that came out and all those pseudo news shows.

00:37:41.000 And then the regular mainstream media news decided to pick up that outline and format. 0.94

00:37:48.000 And the days of Cronkite and Huntley Brinkley and shit were gone. 0.94

00:37:52.000 And that's what we're living in now. 0.99

00:37:54.000 Complete lie.

00:37:54.000 I don't watch one thing on the news anymore and trust anything they're saying.

00:37:59.000 Ever.

00:37:59.000 Have you ever read Matt Taibbi's book, Hate Inc.?

00:38:02.000 No.

00:38:03.000 That's what it's called, right?

00:38:04.000 Isn't it called Hate Inc.?

00:38:05.000 Yeah, it's fantastic.

00:38:07.000 He details how this all happened, how it got started.

00:38:10.000 And it's a business model, and that's what's profitable now.

00:38:15.000 And particularly because the internet is all about short attention span, the cycle of interesting things, the news goes in and out so quickly.

00:38:23.000 You've got to captivate people as quickly as possible, and the best way to do that is the most sensational version of something possible.

00:38:30.000 And that's how you sell ads, and that's how you do this, and that's how you do that.

00:38:32.000 Just keep it moving.

00:38:33.000 But when you realize that fear is part of it, like fear is a great thing.

00:38:38.000 People want to know if something's going to kill them or hurt them or their family or their dog.

00:38:44.000 So if you present this horrible scenario, people are going to watch and then they're going to yap about it and the sponsors will go, oh, a lot of people tuned into this.

00:38:54.000 Let's spend some money here.

00:38:55.000 So what do you think the news company does?

00:38:57.000 God, I hope something crazy scary comes up or are they going to Make something that's crazy scary.

00:39:04.000 Of course they are.

00:39:05.000 It's their product.

00:39:06.000 So they're building. 0.98

00:39:08.000 It's a factory now of scary, titillating, bloody lies. 0.98

00:39:14.000 Yeah. 0.67

00:39:14.000 You were getting to something, because you said that you got arrested, but you had a whole point to get to. 0.67

00:39:21.000 I really did, didn't I, Joe?

00:39:24.000 That went away.

00:39:25.000 All of a sudden, I'm thinking, I'm talking about this, and I did have a point to get to.

00:39:29.000 There was something you were getting to.

00:39:30.000 I'm like, man, I want to bring him back to this because I want to know what it is.

00:39:32.000 I know.

00:39:32.000 It might have been a relationship thing, which it probably was.

00:39:37.000 Physical, throwing things, biting, phones.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, but that wasn't it.

00:39:41.000 I had gone into it with the intention of veering off to something else, and I got tracked on that, and it just stuck in my head, and now it's gone.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, well, it's understandable.

00:39:52.000 It's one of those things.

00:39:54.000 We're going to be able to read each other's minds soon.

00:39:56.000 I think within the next decade or two.

00:39:58.000 You think that's the thing?

00:39:59.000 Yeah, that's what's going to pull us out of this.

00:40:00.000 Now, that's a scary prospect.

00:40:01.000 It is a scary prospect, but it's no more scary than the difference between what it used to be when you left your house and no one knew where you were to now you have a tag in your backpack and your mom can track you every step of the way.

00:40:12.000 Yeah, yeah, that's a thing.

00:40:14.000 You find my phone.

00:40:15.000 You use find my phone.

00:40:17.000 If you're on the same account, you can see where your husband is.

00:40:19.000 You can see where your wife is. 1.00

00:40:21.000 You can see where your kids are.

00:40:22.000 You can find your phone.

00:40:23.000 Oh, there it is, downtown.

00:40:26.000 You know where everybody is.

00:40:27.000 And then on top of that, everybody's geotagging their photographs.

00:40:30.000 Everybody's putting their location data in their Instagram pictures.

00:40:35.000 We put way too much out there.

00:40:36.000 We're getting closer and closer and closer to being totally interconnected. 0.98

00:40:41.000 And I think one of the ways it's going to get us out of this, that's going to be the savior of propaganda and bullshit. 0.95

00:40:47.000 Wouldn't it be nice if we knew exactly what people were thinking? 0.96

00:40:51.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:40:53.000 Well, some people...

00:40:54.000 We kind of have that with social media, things like Twitter, where we know what people are thinking because it's what they...

00:41:01.000 Present to you.

00:41:02.000 It's more of what they're projecting. 0.99

00:41:04.000 And you have to use your own ability to decipher bullshit. 0.99

00:41:10.000 To go, oh, this is virtue signaling. 0.99

00:41:12.000 This is a guy who's trying to take some heat off of him so he's going after that guy.

00:41:17.000 And then you would know that. 0.69

00:41:19.000 Instead of just seeing somebody bullying online, you would know, oh, this is a poor, lonely, douchebag, sad, depressed guy. 0.78

00:41:29.000 Everybody attacking people on Twitter is depressed. 0.85

00:41:31.000 They're almost all depressed.

00:41:32.000 There's always something wrong with you. 0.95

00:41:34.000 If you're going after people for things like that, unless someone's like doing something, like someone's ripping you off and you want to inform people, hey, I'm getting fucked over and this could happen to you.

00:41:46.000 Here's what's going on.

00:41:47.000 The people that are just attacking people, for the most part, they're trying to bring people down because they're down.

00:41:52.000 That's almost all of it.

00:41:53.000 We've seen it happen quite a few times.

00:41:56.000 My brother is various cover bands.

00:41:59.000 He's a great guitarist and does gigs all over the place. 0.99

00:42:02.000 And because he's my brother, some of these people decided to just fuck with him and call some of these venues and say that he's this terrible person. 0.98

00:42:11.000 They'll make up things. 0.99

00:42:13.000 And he's had gigs canceled because of that.

00:42:18.000 First of all, I just don't get that mindset.

00:42:20.000 Why would you do that?

00:42:21.000 And it is because these people are just angry.

00:42:25.000 No one who's successful is doing that.

00:42:27.000 Yes.

00:42:28.000 Exactly.

00:42:29.000 So my brother actually started looking into a lot of this, and he's called a couple of these people.

00:42:35.000 He figured out how to get in touch with them and called them. 0.88

00:42:37.000 And every single one of them, after a little while, says something to the effect of, Dude, I was just fucking around. 0.95

00:42:47.000 I'm joking. 0.97

00:42:48.000 I play guitar, too.

00:42:50.000 You know, I heard some of your stuff, man.

00:42:52.000 It's really good.

00:42:53.000 Oh, no. 0.99

00:42:53.000 It turns into this thing like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:42:56.000 And my brother's sitting there going, you motherfucker. 1.00

00:42:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:00.000 Like, this guy is now your friend?

00:43:02.000 Like, he's a compatriot of yours?

00:43:05.000 Well, it became a human.

00:43:06.000 It became a human talking to another human.

00:43:07.000 A human being.

00:43:09.000 That's why I hate...

00:43:11.000 Social media.

00:43:12.000 It's so easy to just not care about another name and a picture and a few dozen words, but when you have to face someone face-to-face, that's why you never see these people at a bar. 1.00

00:43:26.000 No one walks up to me and goes, hey, I'm Hey, would you blow me 4262, you asshole? 0.99

00:43:32.000 They never approach you in a real place. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Right.

00:43:36.000 They love it. 1.00

00:43:37.000 They love just standing on the sidelines anonymously and fucking with you. 1.00

00:43:40.000 Well, what they don't love is their life. 1.00

00:43:43.000 Yeah, that's obvious.

00:43:44.000 That's what it is.

00:43:45.000 You find things to do when your life is going well and you're happy.

00:43:52.000 You find things to do that make you happy.

00:43:54.000 When you're miserable, you want to make other people miserable.

00:43:56.000 That's what a lot of it is.

00:43:59.000 It's hard to be happy. 1.00

00:44:00.000 It's hard to have your shit together. 1.00

00:44:02.000 It's fucking confusing out there. 1.00

00:44:04.000 It is a tough thing. 0.98

00:44:07.000 I think being financially sound helps.

00:44:13.000 They say money doesn't buy happiness, but you can pay off a lot of sadness with it.

00:44:20.000 You might not be happy, but there's not a bill laying there that you can't pay while you're unhappy about something else.

00:44:27.000 So I think that does help.

00:44:30.000 But there are plenty of miserable people that are well off. 1.00

00:44:33.000 Very, very, very miserable that are rich as fuck. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Because one of the things that happens when you're trying to get rich is all you think about is getting rich and you lose your humanity. 1.00

00:44:43.000 Because you stop being a good friend.

00:44:45.000 You stop having fun.

00:44:47.000 You don't think about like hugging your kids and going out with your buddies.

00:44:50.000 You instead think about the numbers that you're racking up.

00:44:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:54.000 You think about, you know, sustaining it.

00:44:58.000 Once you get there, now you have to sustain it.

00:45:02.000 And that's a whole other thing.

00:45:05.000 You also think about, like, there's a hierarchy of rich people.

00:45:09.000 You know, you have a million dollars, but Bobby's got five million. 1.00

00:45:12.000 That fucking piece of shit. 1.00

00:45:13.000 And then, you know, you're like, well, Billy's cousin's a billionaire. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Holy shit, she's got a thousand million? 0.99

00:45:19.000 That's so funny. 1.00

00:45:23.000 I swear, it wasn't long after.

00:45:25.000 Me and Opie signed an insanely lucrative deal with Infinity Broadcasting back in, I think it was 2000. You want a cigar?

00:45:36.000 Do you smoke cigars?

00:45:37.000 I don't smoke cigars.

00:45:38.000 I always feel like it's weird because I want to inhale because that's like smoking to me.

00:45:43.000 So you kind of just let it linger in your mouth.

00:45:46.000 I've smoked cigars before.

00:45:48.000 Why, you got a good one?

00:45:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:49.000 Are they good?

00:45:50.000 They're good, yeah.

00:45:51.000 Because I hear Cubans aren't even the good cigars anymore.

00:45:53.000 I don't know.

00:45:53.000 You'd have to talk to Bobby Kelly about that.

00:45:55.000 He knows more than I do.

00:45:56.000 Bobby Kelly.

00:45:57.000 I just feel like once we start drinking, I usually smoke a cigar.

00:45:59.000 I'll smoke a cigar with you, though.

00:46:01.000 Look at you.

00:46:02.000 Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you?

00:46:03.000 We're here on the Joe Rogan Experience.

00:46:06.000 Humidor.

00:46:07.000 I interrupted you again.

00:46:08.000 No, it's fine.

00:46:09.000 You have such a man place here. 1.00

00:46:12.000 This is a dude fucking place. 0.99

00:46:15.000 It's not as doody as the last place because I don't have the gym. 0.99

00:46:18.000 Oh, right. 0.99

00:46:18.000 You had the whole fucking gym. 0.99

00:46:20.000 Of course you are. 1.00

00:46:21.000 Yeah, that'll happen soon.

00:46:22.000 Of course you are.

00:46:23.000 Steps.

00:46:24.000 I was watching a documentary about...

00:46:27.000 It was like, are we in a simulation, the Matrix simulation?

00:46:32.000 So I watched that.

00:46:32.000 Some guy sat in one of those sensory deprivation tanks.

00:46:36.000 And I know you have one of those.

00:46:39.000 And the way he described it of just...

00:46:43.000 Losing his sense of body and being able to see himself as individual particles and stuff. 0.99

00:46:52.000 He must have been high as fuck. 1.00

00:46:53.000 Dude, he had to be! 0.99

00:46:54.000 But that was pretty much the gist of the whole thing, was that if you can get to the reality that you are just kind of Specs.

00:47:06.000 You're particles.

00:47:07.000 You're just things.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, you're a bunch of stuff.

00:47:09.000 Stuff. 0.83

00:47:09.000 You're a bunch of stuff connected to a consciousness that's connected to an ego and that ego exists to make sure that you keep breeding and perpetrating your DNA. Yeah, it's all biological and keeping the species going. 0.83

00:47:21.000 Like our whole thing.

00:47:24.000 And that's a little weird.

00:47:26.000 Because we also find pleasure in things that don't seem to be connected to that part of it.

00:47:34.000 I don't think a lion...

00:47:38.000 I'll just have a good time today. 1.00

00:47:39.000 I think it's food and fucking. 1.00

00:47:42.000 And most of the animal kingdom, I think it's food and fucking. 1.00

00:47:45.000 Sometimes you see monkeys eat some kind of rancid fruit and they get drunk and fall out of trees. 0.98

00:47:50.000 Well, that's what's interesting about people is that we've figured out some weird hacks to tap into our...

00:47:57.000 Yeah, that's a lighter.

00:47:59.000 You flip it the other side.

00:48:00.000 Uh-huh.

00:48:01.000 Flip it upside down.

00:48:03.000 Oh! 0.60

00:48:03.000 And then pop the top. 0.60

00:48:04.000 Uh-huh.

00:48:06.000 That way.

00:48:07.000 There you go.

00:48:07.000 And then push that up.

00:48:08.000 There you go.

00:48:09.000 You really don't smoke cigars.

00:48:11.000 We found out tricks to hijack...

00:48:14.000 Phaser.

00:48:15.000 It's good stuff, right?

00:48:16.000 We found tricks to hijack our biological reward system.

00:48:21.000 You know, like the thrill of the hunt gets replaced with a video game.

00:48:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:28.000 Yeah, like wanting to solve puzzles and dramas and dealing with problems in your life and threats gets replaced by an action film, you know, where you're the hero.

00:48:40.000 You pretend you're Jason Bourne and you're kicking ass and saving the village.

00:48:44.000 So it all still goes back to this... 0.97

00:48:46.000 Biological reward system. 0.65

00:48:48.000 Yeah, biological reward system. 0.79

00:48:50.000 No places that get hacked more than porn, right? 0.99

00:48:53.000 You know, you watch people fuck, and you're like, yeah, that's me. 0.99

00:48:56.000 I'm in there. 1.00

00:48:57.000 I'm fucking, I'm fucking, I'm fucking. 1.00

00:48:59.000 And then you can't wait to do it again, because it's on tap 24-7. 1.00

00:49:03.000 It's like you're living like Caligula. 1.00

00:49:05.000 You're living like some madman, some Salt-N-Bernay type character with a harem of 100 women that are paid to just sit around and wait for you to fuck them. 1.00

00:49:14.000 Dude, I gotta tell you, the testosterone shots. 1.00

00:49:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:18.000 Now, you, of course, have been a proponent of this for many years.

00:49:21.000 You've turned a lot of people on to it.

00:49:24.000 You're 100% with this.

00:49:26.000 I know of other people that have said, oh, yeah, Joe Rogan said, I gotta get on this.

00:49:30.000 Whenever a guy that's reaching their 40s, 50s in there says that they're having problems with libido and muscle mass and stuff.

00:49:41.000 Energy, interest in things, aches and pains.

00:49:45.000 Yeah, you've always said that.

00:49:46.000 As a matter of fact, and then Nick DiPaolo, I do a show with Nick on Mondays on my channel, and he was saying the same thing. 0.99

00:49:56.000 He's going, ah, no muscle mass, cocksucker. 1.00

00:49:58.000 Can't fucking do anything. 1.00

00:50:00.000 Look, fucking bitch arms. 1.00

00:50:02.000 He's hilarious. 1.00

00:50:03.000 And he said, low T. So I went to the doctor. 0.96

00:50:06.000 I was diagnosed with low T. It was pretty fucking low. 0.96

00:50:09.000 It's called being an old man. 0.99

00:50:11.000 Yeah!

00:50:12.000 How old do you know?

00:50:12.000 It's called getting...

00:50:13.000 I just had my 60th on April 26th.

00:50:17.000 Six zero.

00:50:18.000 Dude, when I was a kid, that was...

00:50:20.000 You're done.

00:50:20.000 Dead.

00:50:21.000 You're a dead man. 1.00

00:50:21.000 You're dead. 1.00

00:50:22.000 Meanwhile, you have a thick neck now. 1.00

00:50:23.000 Look at you.

00:50:24.000 When I saw you today, I'm like, look at his neck.

00:50:26.000 I know.

00:50:26.000 It's getting there.

00:50:27.000 You're lifting weights?

00:50:28.000 It's like, I am now.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 Look at that.

00:50:30.000 Missy makes me fucking do that shit. 1.00

00:50:32.000 She's an animal. 1.00

00:50:33.000 She's a fucking animal. 1.00

00:50:35.000 Look at you. 1.00

00:50:35.000 And here's the weird thing. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Okay.

00:50:38.000 Now, I... You don't notice because it's like over the years, the testosterone level and those interests that you had in your libido and all that, it gets turned on like a dimmer.

00:50:49.000 It's like a dimmer switch.

00:50:51.000 Slowly.

00:50:52.000 Slowly.

00:50:53.000 And then another year goes by and you're like, wow, you know, and then a little bit down.

00:50:59.000 After two shots, It's a switch.

00:51:03.000 It just went, bam! 0.98

00:51:04.000 And all the time it took to turn that down came right the fuck back. 1.00

00:51:09.000 Joe, I'm a piece of shit again. 1.00

00:51:11.000 I have been looking at porn that isn't even right. 1.00

00:51:15.000 Like, I'll punch it. 0.95

00:51:17.000 And for years, I've been going like, oh, Elon Musk, SpaceX.

00:51:22.000 Oh, look at that, the Falcon 9. Now you go right to porn. 0.95

00:51:25.000 It's right to porn. 0.98

00:51:26.000 And the porn is like... 1.00

00:51:29.000 College, red pussy, hairy, nerd. 1.00

00:51:34.000 Like girls with glasses and big hairy red bush and stuff. 1.00

00:51:38.000 Why?

00:51:38.000 Because I don't know, Joe.

00:51:40.000 Because of the needles.

00:51:41.000 I just found this attraction.

00:51:45.000 What was the porn that you were attracted to before this?

00:51:47.000 I wasn't really thinking of porn.

00:51:49.000 Really?

00:51:49.000 I gotta be honest.

00:51:50.000 But why do you think it's like perverted porn?

00:51:52.000 It isn't really perverted. 1.00

00:51:54.000 I just like pale girls with big pussies. 1.00

00:51:56.000 Like the hairy muff. 0.99

00:51:58.000 Reminds me of when I used to see Barbie Benton in Playboy when I was a kid. 0.97

00:52:02.000 Oh, so it's bringing you back.

00:52:03.000 It brings me right back, Joe.

00:52:05.000 So it's like you've basically gotten into a time machine.

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 Brought you back to when your libido was in full swing.

00:52:11.000 Yes.

00:52:11.000 So you're connecting.

00:52:12.000 And I think the hair's coming back.

00:52:14.000 Hair is making a comeback. 0.99

00:52:16.000 During the 90s and early 2000s, it was cut that shit off. 0.98

00:52:21.000 They tried to get artistic with it at first. 1.00

00:52:23.000 We heard the landing strip, the heart, the Hitler mustache, they called it, which looked stupid. 1.00

00:52:29.000 It was one little tuft of hair above the vagina. 1.00

00:52:34.000 A lightning bolt. 0.99

00:52:36.000 Stop.

00:52:36.000 Just stop with that.

00:52:38.000 And then just cut everything off.

00:52:39.000 That's what every girl was doing. 1.00

00:52:41.000 And when I was growing up, When I was in my teens looking to get laid, if a girl took her big fucking granny panties down back then, and I saw a shaved But I would have lost my mind. 1.00

00:52:56.000 I'd been like, what am I, with a porn star? 1.00

00:52:58.000 Who the fuck is this? 1.00

00:52:59.000 Why is a fucking car? 1.00

00:53:01.000 Because it was that big triangle. 1.00

00:53:04.000 It looked like you took a pool rack and just filled it with barbershop floor hair.

00:53:08.000 When I was 18, this girl that I was dating, I dated her in high school and then dated her again.

00:53:15.000 And she was dating this guy who was an animal.

00:53:17.000 They had a lot of crazy problems.

00:53:20.000 He smashed her window of her car and all kinds of things.

00:53:24.000 The guy was a savage, apparently.

00:53:26.000 And she was over at my house, and we were starting to fool around.

00:53:30.000 She's like, I can't, I can't, I can't.

00:53:31.000 I go, why?

00:53:32.000 She goes, I'm embarrassed.

00:53:33.000 I don't want to tell you.

00:53:34.000 I go, why?

00:53:34.000 Just tell me.

00:53:35.000 She goes, he made me shave my pussy. 1.00

00:53:38.000 So this ex of hers had made her shave her pussy. 1.00

00:53:42.000 She was embarrassed by it. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Oh my god.

00:53:44.000 I'm like, I don't care.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, like I care.

00:53:47.000 It's not like... 1.00

00:53:48.000 She was embarrassed that I would know that a guy talked her into shaving her pussy. 1.00

00:53:54.000 That's how weird the world was back then. 1.00

00:53:55.000 And what year was this about?

00:53:57.000 Well, I was 18, so we're talking about 85, I guess?

00:53:59.000 Yeah, yeah, that would have been weird back then.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, 86, somewhere around then.

00:54:02.000 You had to know, like...

00:54:05.000 Especially back then it was so awkward and you didn't just now you could literally just go okay lose the clothes we'll fucking hop in the sack and do something but back then it was this weird can I get this right you never knew when she was gonna say stop right so you had it the shirt had to come off you had to put your hand under the shirt and then that and then the bra and then down the pants and you had to be careful when you were undoing the bra strap it had to be smooth because if you were fumbling too long It might stop you.

00:54:31.000 Right.

00:54:32.000 What is this rookie?

00:54:33.000 Stop.

00:54:33.000 I can't.

00:54:34.000 Stop.

00:54:34.000 I got it.

00:54:36.000 Oh, God. 0.99

00:54:37.000 Fucking embarrassing. 0.99

00:54:38.000 And those old ones had like three of the hooks in the back. 0.99

00:54:42.000 The best invention was the front Velcro thing.

00:54:46.000 A front Velcro?

00:54:47.000 Or a clip.

00:54:48.000 A little snap.

00:54:50.000 It was like click and then bam, right in the front.

00:54:52.000 You didn't even have to take the rest off.

00:54:54.000 It was awesome.

00:54:56.000 But when your hand finally went down those Jordache jeans, you knew when you reached ground zero.

00:55:06.000 You felt it.

00:55:07.000 You were getting there.

00:55:08.000 Welcome to the jungle.

00:55:09.000 Welcome to the jungle.

00:55:10.000 And then a comic did it years ago, but it was something about how you were always surprised at how far down that really was.

00:55:18.000 Like, you'd go down the front of the pants like, all right, belly button's here. 0.99

00:55:21.000 It's a good two feet from the belly button.

00:55:23.000 I remember when I was 13 years old.

00:55:25.000 When I was 13 years old, there was this kid in my neighborhood.

00:55:27.000 When I was 13, I moved from Florida, moved from Gainesville, Florida to Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts.

00:55:33.000 At the time, it was kind of a sketchy neighborhood, and there was a lot of rough kids that lived there.

00:55:37.000 It was very lower income and wild street kids.

00:55:42.000 They were out in the street, and there was this kid in my next-door neighbor.

00:55:44.000 His name was Pauly Hudson.

00:55:46.000 He was a dangerous kid.

00:55:47.000 He was already smoking cigarettes at 13. I was very innocent when I moved to the spot.

00:55:52.000 And I remember he was talking to me about sex and they were talking to me about girls and having sex with girls. 0.75

00:55:58.000 And I had never had sex with a girl. 0.78

00:55:59.000 I mean, maybe I'd kissed a girl. 0.99

00:56:01.000 I don't even know if I'd kissed a girl with tongue by then, right?

00:56:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:56:04.000 And he was like, you probably don't even know that when you fuck a girl, you don't go straight, you go up in her. 0.99

00:56:12.000 What? 1.00

00:56:13.000 And I was like, what are you talking about?

00:56:14.000 I remember thinking that.

00:56:15.000 You thought you went straight.

00:56:16.000 I didn't know.

00:56:17.000 Like the cotton swab during COVID testing.

00:56:20.000 It's like, wait, that's backwards. 0.95

00:56:21.000 I thought it went up, but it goes straight in. 0.98

00:56:23.000 Don't think that I had an accurate map of the landscape when it came to a woman's vagina. 1.00

00:56:27.000 I didn't know where everything was. 0.97

00:56:29.000 Not many guys did.

00:56:30.000 But this kid knew that I didn't know.

00:56:32.000 And he's like, you probably don't even know.

00:56:34.000 How old was he?

00:56:34.000 He was 13 too.

00:56:35.000 Oh my god.

00:56:36.000 Like I said, he was smoking cigarettes.

00:56:38.000 These kids were animals.

00:56:39.000 He had some issues.

00:56:39.000 They were roaming the streets.

00:56:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:41.000 These kids were like, when I got into this neighborhood, everybody was just wandering around.

00:56:45.000 And they were all doing terrible things.

00:56:47.000 They were all lighting things on fire.

00:56:49.000 Fire was a big thing.

00:56:50.000 Dogs were always running around.

00:56:51.000 Nobody's dog was ever in the yard.

00:56:53.000 It was a wild neighborhood.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:55.000 At 13, I remember kids like that.

00:56:57.000 And then when they got a little older, the crowds kind of separated because some of them would start breaking into houses.

00:57:04.000 Right.

00:57:04.000 And you'd stay away from those kids.

00:57:06.000 It was this weird tree would grow of the really good kids and the really bad kids.

00:57:11.000 The kids who took that turn.

00:57:12.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:57:13.000 And you'd sometimes go over and be like, all right, we'll fucking drive over some mailboxes tonight. 1.00

00:57:18.000 Like that kind of innocent shit. 0.99

00:57:20.000 But then some of it would just take it way too far. 0.99

00:57:22.000 These kids were already breaking into houses.

00:57:24.000 They were calling them B&Es.

00:57:25.000 I had to ask what a B&E was.

00:57:26.000 I was like, yeah, he's doing B&Es.

00:57:28.000 I'm like, what's a B&E? Breaking and entering.

00:57:30.000 I was like, oh, I didn't know.

00:57:32.000 I went from being this kid that was living in San Francisco, and then I was living in a college town in Florida, and then all of a sudden, Jamaica Plain. 0.68

00:57:42.000 And Jamaica Plain in 78, I guess, when I got there, 79, was fucking sketchy.

00:57:48.000 It was a lot of dangerous people. 0.84

00:57:52.000 I love it.

00:57:53.000 When I was out in My dad lived out there, so I went out to live with my dad for a while.

00:58:01.000 I was about 13 years old.

00:58:03.000 And my dad was all about like, man training!

00:58:06.000 Man training!

00:58:09.000 Because he had me pegged as like, you know, I was going to be this little fruity kid.

00:58:15.000 I tell a story about when I made a marionette.

00:58:20.000 I made a marionette.

00:58:21.000 The only thing was, it didn't have strings on it yet.

00:58:25.000 And my dad's like, you are not taking that doll with you.

00:58:28.000 I'm like, it's a marionette.

00:58:30.000 He goes, a puppet without strings is a doll!

00:58:33.000 He's just yelling at me.

00:58:34.000 And I'm like, I start crying.

00:58:36.000 He called me pissy eyes.

00:58:37.000 And my mother's yelling at my father because he's yelling at me.

00:58:40.000 And poor little Anthony.

00:58:42.000 So when I went out to California, he decided I'm going to get him a horse.

00:58:45.000 I'm going to buy him guns.

00:58:47.000 And this guy is good.

00:58:48.000 So I got this black horse.

00:58:51.000 And for my birthday, he got me a...

00:58:53.000 A Winchester.30-30 and a Ruger Super Single 6 pistol.

00:58:59.000 And he's like, if I was just 13th or 14th birthday and I got that, I'd saddle my horse and ride up in the hills.

00:59:06.000 And I would just ride up in the hills, shooting guns like a mental patient. 0.61

00:59:11.000 It was great.

00:59:12.000 It was a great, like, I was able to be a cowboy.

00:59:15.000 San Juan Capistrano, where the Swallows come back every year in Orange County.

00:59:19.000 Oh, Orange County.

00:59:19.000 Yeah, it's in between San Diego and L.A., Oh, yeah, it's ranch country out there.

00:59:24.000 Oh, all horses, dude.

00:59:25.000 Everyone had a horse.

00:59:26.000 There were hitching posts in front of the bars on Camino Capistrano, which was the main drag.

00:59:33.000 Hitching posts.

00:59:34.000 We could pull up with a horse.

00:59:35.000 Pull up, and people did, and you'd tie up.

00:59:37.000 Are you allowed to drink and drive a horse?

00:59:39.000 Yeah, back then, anyway.

00:59:41.000 It's totally different now.

00:59:42.000 Doesn't it seem like that would be fine, because it's not like you're in control anyway.

00:59:45.000 No, no, the horse is doing all the work.

00:59:49.000 I feel like you could be hammered on a horse, and that's okay.

00:59:51.000 I've seen many people hammered on horses back then, because everyone was drunk.

00:59:54.000 Doesn't that seem like that would be a different thing, though?

00:59:57.000 Like, you shouldn't get in trouble for that.

00:59:59.000 You shouldn't.

01:00:02.000 Unless you cause an accident, maybe.

01:00:04.000 Can you get a DUI riding a horse?

01:00:07.000 Riding a horse drunk on public roads in California violates the law.

01:00:10.000 Of course it does!

01:00:11.000 California gets rid of everything fun.

01:00:13.000 You can't even go outside without a mask on.

01:00:15.000 The people versus Fong? 1.00

01:00:17.000 That's hilarious. 0.95

01:00:17.000 So some dude named Fong was trying to fucking have a good time on his horse, have a couple of brewskis, ride around, people versus Fong. 0.95

01:00:26.000 Imagine forever, horse driving while drunk is connected to your last name. 0.98

01:00:31.000 To your last name.

01:00:31.000 Come on, I'm the first guy!

01:00:33.000 You did it.

01:00:35.000 How many people were riding horses drunk before this Fong fella came along? 1.00

01:00:38.000 Poor guy. 1.00

01:00:39.000 Poor son of a bitch Fong. 1.00

01:00:40.000 That's kind of crazy that it's like a legal precedent. 1.00

01:00:43.000 It's connected to this one dude.

01:00:44.000 Imagine that, you just...

01:00:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:49.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:00:50.000 Well, you gotta make sure you have cowboy boots on, too. 0.99

01:00:52.000 A lot of people don't know cowboy boots are designed to slip on and off because your feet get stuck in the stirrups, and if the horse goes crazy, the boots just slip off, and then you fall out, and you're okay.

01:01:04.000 You don't get dragged to your death.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:06.000 We got thrown off a lot of horses back in those days.

01:01:09.000 It was constant. 1.00

01:01:10.000 Your horse would spook at something and throw you off, and my dad's like, eh, son of a bitch, you gotta get back on that horse! 1.00

01:01:17.000 Like the literally get back on the horse that threw you kind of a thing. 0.99

01:01:21.000 So my dad was...

01:01:24.000 He wanted me to become a man at 13, 14 years old.

01:01:28.000 So there was this girl, Buzz. 1.00

01:01:30.000 Her name was Buzz. 0.97

01:01:32.000 Her name was Chris, Christine.

01:01:35.000 Kind of a big-boned gal. 0.99

01:01:37.000 Why'd they call her Buzz?

01:01:38.000 Because she was constantly buzzed.

01:01:40.000 She was constantly buzzed.

01:01:44.000 And she was known around the ranch for being a little loose. 1.00

01:01:51.000 So my dad, I think my dad noticed I was making a lot of bathroom trips at that point because I had just discovered the fact that you could jack off and do fun things like that.

01:02:01.000 So he's like, all right, I got Buzz.

01:02:03.000 I'll get Buzz and hook him up.

01:02:07.000 So my father and his girlfriend at the time, Corey, they go out and Buzz is hanging out with me.

01:02:14.000 And I'm clueless, man. 0.99

01:02:15.000 I am fucking clueless. 0.99

01:02:17.000 And she goes, why don't you go up and take a shower? 1.00

01:02:19.000 Because I've been at the ranch all day and fucking smell like horse shit and everything. 1.00

01:02:23.000 And I'm like, okay. 1.00

01:02:26.000 I'm watching Monty Python or some shit. 0.96

01:02:28.000 And I go in. 0.99

01:02:29.000 I take a shower.

01:02:31.000 I come out.

01:02:32.000 And I'm walking to my bedroom.

01:02:33.000 And my dad in Corey's bedroom was along the way.

01:02:37.000 And I hear from in there.

01:02:38.000 I'm like, you coming in?

01:02:41.000 And I look in the room, and it still hadn't hit me.

01:02:43.000 I'm just like, what is going on here?

01:02:45.000 I'm getting my PJs on, and I'm going to go downstairs and watch TV. So I look in the room, and there's Buzz.

01:02:53.000 She's sitting on the bed, kind of sitting with her back against the headboard, and the blanket is up to her waist. 0.99

01:03:01.000 And she had big fucks. 1.00

01:03:05.000 So I look in and still I'm just like, it didn't fit. 0.99

01:03:12.000 Nothing made sense. 0.99

01:03:13.000 And then I'm like, oh shit! 1.00

01:03:16.000 I think I'm going to have some sex. 1.00

01:03:20.000 I'm going to be fucking a girl. 1.00

01:03:23.000 You're 13? 1.00

01:03:25.000 13, probably almost 14. How old's Buzz?

01:03:28.000 Buzz was 19. Oh my god.

01:03:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:31.000 The older woman.

01:03:32.000 She's reckless. 0.97

01:03:33.000 Oh, totally reckless.

01:03:34.000 They called her Buzz.

01:03:37.000 How much does Buzz weigh at the time?

01:03:39.000 Buzz, she was really tall. 0.88

01:03:41.000 She was probably six feet tall. 0.96

01:03:42.000 And she had a proportioned body for a six foot tall girl. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Big tits, like very 70s hips and waist kind of thing. 0.98

01:03:52.000 And so you're a boy, and this is a woman. 1.00

01:03:53.000 I am a fucking skinny little douchebag. 1.00

01:03:58.000 It was, you know, like fucking riding the Matterhorn. 1.00

01:04:03.000 I was... 0.99

01:04:04.000 But I was like into it. 0.99

01:04:05.000 I got into bed with her and she starts like rubbing her hands and she goes to slide her hand down to my dick and she's like, could you take your underwear off? 1.00

01:04:21.000 I got into bed with my underwear on. 0.99

01:04:23.000 I didn't know.

01:04:24.000 What did I know?

01:04:26.000 So I dropped those things.

01:04:28.000 And then, yeah, I learned very quickly at that point.

01:04:31.000 And that is, you could mark it on a graph. 0.99

01:04:35.000 Of when my fucking grades and everything just took a shit. 1.00

01:04:40.000 Right at that point. 1.00

01:04:42.000 All I thought about was fucking. 1.00

01:04:44.000 I was in junior high. 0.99

01:04:46.000 I went to school the next day, and I looked at everyone differently. 0.99

01:04:51.000 I was just like, these guys don't know what fucking is. 1.00

01:04:55.000 Now, how many kids in your class had already had sex? 1.00

01:04:57.000 None.

01:04:58.000 Like, none of them that I knew about.

01:05:01.000 Maybe an errant uncle or two had gotten to them.

01:05:03.000 It is funny.

01:05:03.000 Like, once that door gets opened...

01:05:05.000 Oh, that was all I wanted. 0.95

01:05:07.000 And then we had continued fucking for almost a year. 0.98

01:05:10.000 Wow. 0.95

01:05:11.000 So she was 20 and you were 14. Yeah.

01:05:13.000 That's a reckless lady. 1.00

01:05:14.000 Very reckless.

01:05:16.000 But it was the 70s, you know.

01:05:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:18.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:05:19.000 Pill or no pill? 1.00

01:05:20.000 Oh, I didn't know.

01:05:22.000 I was blowing loads. 0.58

01:05:23.000 Did you shoot him in there? 0.60

01:05:24.000 Constantly.

01:05:24.000 And did she...

01:05:25.000 Little Anthony Lodes.

01:05:27.000 Little Anthony Lodes.

01:05:27.000 Blowing him in there.

01:05:28.000 Was she concerned with getting pregnant? 1.00

01:05:31.000 I think she would have just gotten an abortion. 1.00

01:05:33.000 Hey, why don't you get one of those abortions? 1.00

01:05:36.000 My brother got one for his girlfriend once.

01:05:38.000 Is that what you heard?

01:05:39.000 No, that was from Fast Times at Richmond County.

01:05:41.000 Oh, I forgot about that.

01:05:44.000 Dude, that was my skull.

01:05:46.000 One of those abortions. 1.00

01:05:48.000 Hey, yeah, I got tickets.

01:05:50.000 I had tickets for Blue Oyster Cult.

01:05:52.000 Where were you?

01:05:53.000 Like that guy.

01:05:54.000 He was like 40 when they filmed that movie. 1.00

01:05:58.000 All those guys were like 40 when they filmed that shit. 0.99

01:06:02.000 I love watching old movies and stuff, especially Twilight Stones and Alfred Hitchcock. 0.99

01:06:06.000 It's like Rod Serling will come on at the beginning and go, here's Bob Smith.

01:06:11.000 He's 22 years old.

01:06:13.000 And you look and it's like, this guy's 50. Yeah, right?

01:06:16.000 And you don't know if they were just lying about the age or that's how a 22-year-old looked back then.

01:06:21.000 I think people aged very quickly back then.

01:06:23.000 Very differently.

01:06:24.000 Yeah, because you look at a 50-year-old man in those days, this is pre-testosterone replacement.

01:06:29.000 Yes.

01:06:30.000 That's a big factor.

01:06:31.000 It is.

01:06:32.000 It's a giant factor.

01:06:33.000 I mean, look at Mike Tyson today at 55 years of age.

01:06:37.000 Yep.

01:06:37.000 That didn't exist before.

01:06:39.000 Hell no.

01:06:39.000 That was non-existent.

01:06:40.000 That guy's a monster. 0.99

01:06:41.000 Yeah, a monster. 0.96

01:06:42.000 And yeah, back then, I remember my grandfather.

01:06:47.000 At my age now.

01:06:49.000 Almost dead.

01:06:50.000 Almost dead.

01:06:51.000 I'd walk into my grandparents' house.

01:06:54.000 He'd be sitting on a recliner with the Mets game on in front of him. 1.00

01:06:58.000 And just like you'd hear, son of a bitch. 1.00

01:07:02.000 And he was fucking old, dude. 1.00

01:07:05.000 And that was like... 0.99

01:07:06.000 And tired.

01:07:07.000 Yeah, tired, old.

01:07:08.000 He'd had it.

01:07:09.000 He just wanted to check out.

01:07:11.000 There was this other aunt we had. 0.99

01:07:13.000 Aunt Aletta, her name was.

01:07:16.000 Aletta! 0.98

01:07:16.000 Aletta. 0.98

01:07:17.000 Do people still call their kids Aletta?

01:07:18.000 I doubt that's a name.

01:07:19.000 I think that's one.

01:07:20.000 Mildred.

01:07:21.000 Things like that are just done.

01:07:22.000 Mabel.

01:07:23.000 Could you imagine that?

01:07:24.000 Oh, no.

01:07:24.000 Mildred.

01:07:26.000 Mabel, I fucking love... 1.00

01:07:29.000 You just never hear those names anymore. 0.98

01:07:31.000 Yeah, Aletta.

01:07:33.000 The only thing I have any recollection of her is right when we walked in the door, once a year for a holiday, She was in a chair in the corner.

01:07:42.000 And you went over.

01:07:43.000 You gave her a kiss on the cheek.

01:07:45.000 And no one talked to her.

01:07:47.000 No one acknowledged her.

01:07:48.000 She was just there.

01:07:49.000 Until one day, she wasn't there. 1.00

01:07:51.000 And that was her whole fucking life. 0.99

01:07:53.000 And I swear to you, she was probably younger than I am right now. 0.99

01:07:57.000 Wow. 1.00

01:07:58.000 It's so fucked up, dude. 1.00

01:07:59.000 It is fucked up, right? 1.00

01:08:01.000 Right? 0.99

01:08:01.000 And you know what's really fucked up about the whole testosterone replacement thing is there's a lot of people that get mad that you're doing it. 0.99

01:08:06.000 Yep. 0.96

01:08:07.000 They don't like it.

01:08:08.000 Yeah, stop that.

01:08:10.000 Stop doing that.

01:08:11.000 Just be normal.

01:08:12.000 You think it's again like a jealousy thing. 0.99

01:08:15.000 Just go and rot. 0.96

01:08:16.000 Slowly.

01:08:17.000 People don't want to...

01:08:18.000 Yeah, yeah, it's just accept it.

01:08:20.000 Accept it.

01:08:21.000 Grow old gracefully. 1.00

01:08:23.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:08:23.000 I don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

01:08:24.000 Yeah.

01:08:25.000 Yeah.

01:08:26.000 I always said Sylvester Stallone was my canary in the coal mine.

01:08:29.000 Oh, really?

01:08:29.000 Watch that guy.

01:08:30.000 He's like 80. Watch, watch, fly!

01:08:32.000 Bench pressing and shit, doing squats. 0.99

01:08:34.000 Canary in the colon. 0.99

01:08:35.000 Keep an eye on him.

01:08:36.000 Keep an eye on him.

01:08:37.000 See how he's doing over there.

01:08:39.000 He's like 25 years older than me.

01:08:41.000 I'm like, keep an eye on him.

01:08:42.000 That's a good, yeah.

01:08:45.000 See how long you can keep this up.

01:08:47.000 Dude, there's science, you know? 1.00

01:08:48.000 There's fucking science that's... 0.99

01:08:51.000 Making us live longer? 0.99

01:08:52.000 Lately, I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions. 1.00

01:08:55.000 That Michael Jackson shit. 1.00

01:08:56.000 Yeah, I didn't remember that it was a Michael Jackson shit until yesterday, but yeah. 1.00

01:09:01.000 Hyperbaric sessions. 0.98

01:09:02.000 There was a university in Israel that did a study that they did 60 hyperbaric treatments over 90 days, and it turned out that it lengthened your telomeres, which is an indication of your biological age, by 20 years.

01:09:16.000 So it reduced your biological age by 20 years.

01:09:18.000 But it's so boring.

01:09:20.000 You lay in this tank for like an hour and a half.

01:09:23.000 And you're not really feeling anything?

01:09:24.000 No, I just take naps.

01:09:25.000 I just go in there and take naps for an hour and a half, or I listen to books on tape.

01:09:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:31.000 And I'm trying to see what it is.

01:09:32.000 I'm 22 sessions in.

01:09:33.000 What is the actual physical thing that it does to you?

01:09:36.000 That's a good question.

01:09:36.000 Does it change the pressure?

01:09:39.000 I'm a surface researcher.

01:09:41.000 I get to the surface, I go, looks good, let's go.

01:09:44.000 But Joe, I've read your medical doctor giving advice to young children.

01:09:47.000 I got chastised by Prince Harry today.

01:09:49.000 Prince Harry went in on me.

01:09:50.000 Prince Harry!

01:09:52.000 Hey Harry, I can give you some advice too, buddy. 0.96

01:09:54.000 Dude, when I read shit, when people start ragging you about things, I'm like, don't you know who Joe Rogan is? 0.94

01:10:03.000 Like, first of all... 0.99

01:10:04.000 You're allowed to give an opinion on anything.

01:10:07.000 Not anymore.

01:10:08.000 Not anymore.

01:10:09.000 I've gotten too popular. 0.99

01:10:10.000 Isn't that fucked up? 0.98

01:10:11.000 What happened was the Spotify deal. 0.99

01:10:13.000 When people found out how much chizzash I was making, then things got weird.

01:10:18.000 Then things like you have a responsibility.

01:10:20.000 It's got to be a price if you're going to be tagged as sellout.

01:10:23.000 You've got to be a price.

01:10:25.000 Well, they also want you to sell out.

01:10:26.000 They want you to stop doing what you're doing.

01:10:28.000 You have a responsibility?

01:10:30.000 Hilarious. 0.97

01:10:30.000 I'm a cage fighting commentator and a dirty comedian. 0.97

01:10:33.000 You're coming to me? 1.00

01:10:34.000 I used to make people eat animal dicks on TV. You're coming to me for advice? 0.98

01:10:40.000 How did that happen?

01:10:41.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:10:42.000 It's just I have too much influence.

01:10:44.000 There's too many people listening.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 Right?

01:10:46.000 People are going to be mad that I have you on.

01:10:47.000 Oh, I know.

01:10:48.000 You have Anthony Kubia on?

01:10:49.000 I know.

01:10:50.000 I have my baggage.

01:10:50.000 Anthony, you're my friend.

01:10:52.000 You will be my friend forever.

01:10:54.000 Exactly.

01:10:55.000 That's what I tell people.

01:10:56.000 I'm like, Joe Rogan, a friend.

01:10:58.000 You're my friend.

01:10:59.000 I like talking to Joe.

01:11:00.000 You're my friend, and you helped me tremendously in my early days.

01:11:04.000 Tremendously.

01:11:04.000 Dude, please.

01:11:06.000 Who couldn't see?

01:11:07.000 I have laughed harder just hanging out with you in certain situations.

01:11:12.000 I always...

01:11:13.000 Think back to the Dice gig.

01:11:16.000 Oh, yeah! 1.00

01:11:17.000 We literally fell out of the booth on the floor laughing like idiots. 0.99

01:11:19.000 Jimmy Norton, Bobby Kelly, you, me, and who else was with us? 1.00

01:11:23.000 Somebody else was with us.

01:11:24.000 Oh, jeez.

01:11:24.000 Another comic.

01:11:25.000 Yeah, there were a lot of...

01:11:26.000 Was Brian Redman with us?

01:11:28.000 Who else was with us?

01:11:29.000 Somebody else was with us.

01:11:31.000 Yeah, we all decided to go see Dice.

01:11:32.000 We went to see Dice at the Riviera before they tore it down.

01:11:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:35.000 My God, what a good time we had.

01:11:37.000 Oh, well, we're laughing.

01:11:38.000 What a good time we had.

01:11:39.000 I couldn't look over at you anymore. 0.98

01:11:41.000 And then we fucking looked and both fell out of the booth. 0.99

01:11:45.000 We were hammered. 0.99

01:11:47.000 Yeah.

01:11:47.000 We were having the best time of our life just laughing and laughing.

01:11:50.000 And Dice was being classic Dice.

01:11:53.000 He loved that we were there too.

01:11:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:11:55.000 Had a great time.

01:11:57.000 He had that bit about catching gay. 0.78

01:11:59.000 How you catch gay. 1.00

01:12:01.000 Dice pretends to be ignorant. 0.99

01:12:06.000 So he'll have these things where he'll have these bits set up on preposterous science. 0.98

01:12:11.000 Right.

01:12:12.000 That he's like, this is what I heard.

01:12:15.000 Says it like it's gospel, and this is the rule, science according to Dice. 0.99

01:12:20.000 This idea that some people are problematic and you're not supposed to hang out with anymore, you could eat shit. 1.00

01:12:25.000 I don't give a fuck what you say. 1.00

01:12:27.000 Because it's everybody. 0.99

01:12:29.000 I guess the last thing I just heard was, what's his name?

01:12:34.000 Oh, God.

01:12:37.000 From Freaks and Geeks and Superbad.

01:12:42.000 Seth Rogen?

01:12:43.000 Oh, Seth Rogen.

01:12:44.000 How could I not have gotten the name?

01:12:46.000 I guess the Rogen thing was slipping.

01:12:49.000 What did he do?

01:12:49.000 Yeah, Seth Rogen kind of turned his back on his buddy there who's having these sexual harassment at the very least, maybe rape allegations against him.

01:13:00.000 Oh, James Franco?

01:13:01.000 James Franco.

01:13:02.000 I don't think it's a rape thing.

01:13:02.000 I think it's like predatory behavior.

01:13:04.000 Yes. 1.00

01:13:04.000 Yes, yes, like grooming or fucking underage. 1.00

01:13:10.000 But I think the girls were 17. I don't know what the laws are in California. 0.99

01:13:14.000 And of course, they're going to give you shit regardless if it's legal or not. 0.99

01:13:20.000 But I guess that's been a problem. 0.99

01:13:22.000 And they questioned Seth about it, and he goes, oh, I haven't spoken to him, and I don't plan to.

01:13:28.000 Like, just sold him down the river immediately.

01:13:31.000 You know, I don't like that.

01:13:32.000 It makes me sad.

01:13:33.000 But they're in a different business, and in that business, you have to be chosen.

01:13:37.000 See, this is what I'm saying. 1.00

01:13:38.000 Like, you have to be picked for roles, and if you get blackballed, you're fucked. 0.98

01:13:42.000 Like, you don't have a standalone product, right? 0.75

01:13:44.000 As a guy who has a podcast or as a guy who does stand-up, you have a stand-alone podcast.

01:13:49.000 You have a stand-alone stand-up act.

01:13:51.000 It's all yours.

01:13:52.000 So no one picks you for a role.

01:13:55.000 If Seth Rogen wants to do a film, it's a dangerous proposition to be connected to someone who's problematic.

01:14:02.000 Because if you are, then someone can link you to him and go, Hey, were you involved in this?

01:14:08.000 And we can't use you.

01:14:09.000 We can't have you. 1.00

01:14:10.000 Meanwhile, how many of these fucking people were in bed with Harvey Weinstein? 1.00

01:14:14.000 How many of these people are... 1.00

01:14:15.000 There's all these videos.

01:14:17.000 Plenty of videos.

01:14:18.000 How many videos are people thanking him?

01:14:19.000 Smiling photos.

01:14:20.000 Photos and thanking him.

01:14:21.000 No one's being punished for that.

01:14:23.000 Why would Seth Rogen be punished because he's got this buddy who's one of the handsomest guys that's ever lived. 0.97

01:14:28.000 Look how goddamn good-looking James Franco is. 0.96

01:14:30.000 I mean, do you really think James Franco's struggling to get laid? 0.99

01:14:33.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:14:33.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99

01:14:34.000 I don't know what happened and what didn't happen, but it makes me sad that Seth Rogen has to say that. 0.85

01:14:41.000 But I don't know what he's saying, so I'm just hearing this from you.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, he just said he's kind of...

01:14:47.000 He didn't say I'm cutting him off as a friend.

01:14:51.000 He was asked whether he works with him or will work with him because of all these allegations.

01:14:58.000 And his answer was, I haven't and there are no plans in the future to do so.

01:15:04.000 He was hedging his bet there.

01:15:06.000 But isn't that like, I have no plans in the future to work with Jim Norton.

01:15:11.000 Right.

01:15:11.000 But I would.

01:15:12.000 Of course.

01:15:13.000 But if someone said, are you working with Jim Norton?

01:15:15.000 And if I said, I don't have any plans to work with Jim Norton right now.

01:15:18.000 That doesn't mean I would never work.

01:15:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:15:21.000 But it seems calculated.

01:15:22.000 But it might.

01:15:23.000 But it also might be the way they phrase it in the article that they write about it.

01:15:28.000 Oh, I get it. 1.00

01:15:29.000 They'll try to fuck him up and make him seem like a scumbag. 1.00

01:15:30.000 They might say he threw his buddy under the bus, but maybe he didn't either. 1.00

01:15:34.000 Maybe he was like, I don't know.

01:15:36.000 I don't have any plans on working with him right now.

01:15:38.000 He might have been innocent. 1.00

01:15:39.000 You think there are phone calls that go back and forth and go, dude, I'm going to have to, don't pay attention to it, I love you, but I'm really going to have to call you a piece of shit. 1.00

01:15:49.000 I'm sure! 1.00

01:15:50.000 Just to get this gig, I need this gig.

01:15:53.000 Well, Anthony, this is one of the main reasons why there's a problem with certain people that do stand-up in places like LA in particular, because you have to get chosen for TV shows and chosen for films.

01:16:06.000 Yeah, you're constantly auditioning.

01:16:08.000 You also have to be selected amongst a bunch of other people that are also equally qualified. 0.99

01:16:13.000 And unless you're one of these Tom Cruise motherfuckers who can just blockbuster every fucking movie, you're in a weird position. 0.94

01:16:19.000 You're in a weird position where your business can get tanked if you get connected, whether it's fair or unfair, with someone who's a problem or with something that's a problem. 0.99

01:16:28.000 So they're all terrified and they're all liberal.

01:16:31.000 And I don't even know if they are all liberal.

01:16:33.000 But they all pretend to be liberal or present themselves as liberal.

01:16:37.000 And they do that specifically as a marketing strategy.

01:16:40.000 Yeah.

01:16:40.000 It really is a marketing strategy.

01:16:42.000 There was a guy that I did a TV show with once.

01:16:45.000 And we were talking about ways of talking that they adopt.

01:16:50.000 And one of them is when they meet someone, they say, nice to see you.

01:16:54.000 They don't say nice to meet you.

01:16:55.000 Because what if you forgot?

01:16:56.000 You already met them.

01:16:57.000 And they go, you already met me. 1.00

01:16:58.000 And then you're like, oh my god, I'm fucked. 1.00

01:17:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:17:00.000 Because then they'll turn on you. 1.00

01:17:02.000 Are you big-timing me, you piece of shit? 1.00

01:17:04.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:17:04.000 Like, dude, I know this has happened to you because it's happened to me. 1.00

01:17:07.000 You meet too many people.

01:17:08.000 You forget you met someone.

01:17:09.000 You say nice to meet you.

01:17:10.000 But if I say that and someone says, I met you before.

01:17:13.000 I go, oh, I'm sorry.

01:17:14.000 When do we meet?

01:17:15.000 I'll try to fix it.

01:17:17.000 I'll try to make it better.

01:17:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:18.000 And I'll try to explain.

01:17:20.000 I'm not trying to big-time you. 0.99

01:17:21.000 I just fuck up. 0.99

01:17:22.000 I forget. 0.80

01:17:22.000 My memory is very weird. 0.80

01:17:24.000 They don't understand that my lie is a courtesy to you.

01:17:28.000 When someone walks up to me and goes, hey, you remember me? 0.99

01:17:32.000 And I'll be like, fuck yeah, man, of course. 0.99

01:17:34.000 And then leave it at that. 1.00

01:17:37.000 Because I'm lying to you.

01:17:39.000 And then that's where they go, alright, where was it? 0.99

01:17:41.000 Don't fucking quiz me. 1.00

01:17:43.000 Alright, asshole, I don't remember you. 1.00

01:17:44.000 And I won't next time. 1.00

01:17:47.000 Mike, have this man removed! 1.00

01:17:49.000 Bite him! 1.00

01:17:50.000 Bite his hand! 1.00

01:17:51.000 Bite him, you motherfucker! 1.00

01:17:53.000 Yeah, it's this weird thing where you can't just... 1.00

01:17:57.000 There's no empathy.

01:18:00.000 There's no, like, you know, maybe...

01:18:03.000 Maybe this guy was friends with Harvey Weinstein and it was different.

01:18:06.000 His relationship with Harvey was different.

01:18:08.000 Maybe he didn't know.

01:18:08.000 All these guys had to separate themselves from him.

01:18:11.000 Or whoever it is.

01:18:12.000 James Franco or any of these people.

01:18:14.000 You've got to worry about being stuck in this strange category where you're a problem.

01:18:19.000 Where they don't want to use you for certain roles or use you for certain things.

01:18:23.000 It becomes an issue.

01:18:25.000 Jordan Peterson said he was talking about the courage and bravery that it takes To actually say, hey, I agree with this.

01:18:36.000 I don't agree with this.

01:18:37.000 And the more ridiculous things get and the more censorship we're getting and the more ridiculous boycotts on people's right to speak. 0.82

01:18:51.000 You got to say something.

01:18:53.000 And the question is always, well, people are going to lose their jobs.

01:18:56.000 They're going to lose their family, their livelihood, their reputation.

01:19:01.000 And Jordan's answer to that was like, that's where the courage comes in.

01:19:05.000 That's the courage part.

01:19:07.000 It's easy to not do that.

01:19:09.000 Bravery and courageousness takes – there's a sacrifice that needs to be made or a potential sacrifice if you're deciding you're going to be brave about something.

01:19:19.000 And if you want to speak your mind, regardless of the repercussions, these days that is a brave thing.

01:19:26.000 Yeah.

01:19:27.000 But it's the hardest thing to do because, you know, you always want to kind of float with the current.

01:19:33.000 But eventually down the line, and we've seen this happen, it's going to get to you.

01:19:38.000 Yes. 0.57

01:19:38.000 I mean, who just got screwed lately? 0.57

01:19:41.000 That was just a bleeding heart liberal. 0.85

01:19:45.000 Oh, what's his name?

01:19:48.000 Oh, God.

01:19:50.000 Jeff Leach.

01:19:50.000 You know Jeff Leach?

01:19:51.000 No.

01:19:52.000 English comic.

01:19:53.000 Good-looking guy.

01:19:54.000 Very liberal. 1.00

01:19:55.000 I've had him on the show quite a few times, and I get, you know, from the fans, why you have this piece of shit liberal on? 0.99

01:20:01.000 It's like, oh, sorry. 0.98

01:20:02.000 Sorry I'm not having just people that agree with me on all the time.

01:20:05.000 And we have great discussions about politics or, you know, anything.

01:20:10.000 Sports.

01:20:10.000 Who cares?

01:20:11.000 He just got fired from – he's the voice, the English voice of the demonic character in the Call of Duty games.

01:20:20.000 When you play the campaign, not multiplayer.

01:20:23.000 He's that guy.

01:20:24.000 Great gig. 1.00

01:20:25.000 Well, they dug up some misogynistic shit. 1.00

01:20:28.000 He's a comic. 1.00

01:20:29.000 They dug up some misogynistic stuff, he said.

01:20:32.000 Boom, he's out.

01:20:33.000 And I will tell you, this guy is a staunch liberal.

01:20:38.000 They don't care.

01:20:39.000 They don't care what the context is.

01:20:41.000 They're looking for targets.

01:20:42.000 Targets now.

01:20:42.000 And I think they're getting mad that a lot more, if you want to dub it, I don't even know what labels to put on anymore, so I'll just say right-wing, conservative, Republican.

01:20:51.000 They're getting mad that the names and labels and insults aren't really working like they used to.

01:20:57.000 To be called a racist now, it's like...

01:21:00.000 Everything is racist.

01:21:01.000 It's everything. 0.89

01:21:02.000 If you eat peanut butter and jelly, you're racist. 0.99

01:21:04.000 Racist. 0.99

01:21:04.000 Milk is racist. 0.99

01:21:06.000 The guy on Jeopardy went like this, and they're like, oh, it said he's like, I won three times. 0.94

01:21:10.000 I know it's a little weird, but whatever.

01:21:14.000 Everything's racist.

01:21:15.000 So nothing is racist.

01:21:17.000 It just becomes one of those things.

01:21:18.000 You're crying wolf.

01:21:19.000 Right.

01:21:19.000 You're crying wolf.

01:21:20.000 And then when you look back at the true racism that the civil rights movement We're good to go. 0.63

01:21:47.000 The difference between now and then is amazing.

01:21:49.000 I mean, amazing that we're able to get to this point and still live in relative peace.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about when I'm saying that people are going to be able to read each other's minds and you're going to be able to see intent. 0.93

01:22:01.000 You're going to be like, oh, you're a psychopath looking for virtue. 0.62

01:22:05.000 You're virtue signaling. 0.99

01:22:06.000 Right. 1.00

01:22:06.000 You're looking for people to think you're amazing when you're really kind of a piece of shit and you're this weird social climber. 1.00

01:22:12.000 Would you be petrified if they can read my mind? 1.00

01:22:14.000 No, they can already read my mind.

01:22:16.000 I have a pretty open book.

01:22:18.000 What I say is what I think.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:20.000 No, get in there.

01:22:22.000 I'm genuinely a good person. 0.99

01:22:23.000 Because I know as broadcasters especially, especially on a slow news day, you will spout shit about yourself and things. 0.99

01:22:30.000 And I get that. 0.99

01:22:31.000 Over the years, I've thrown it all out there.

01:22:35.000 But there's probably one or two things you'd be like, I probably...

01:22:40.000 My intentions are good.

01:22:41.000 I would be worried about murderous thoughts.

01:22:44.000 Murderous thoughts.

01:22:44.000 Murderous thoughts would be a real problem.

01:22:46.000 How many of those pop up a day?

01:22:49.000 Occasionally.

01:22:51.000 Occasionally there's some things where I want to go straight Punisher and just clean up. 0.97

01:22:57.000 And I'm pretty fucking liberal. 0.97

01:22:59.000 That's another thing. 0.99

01:23:00.000 I get labeled as an alt-right person.

01:23:03.000 I'm like, listen, not if you talk to me about issues. 0.98

01:23:06.000 You talk to me like, If you want to talk about jokes, yeah, I cracked some fucking off-collar jokes. 0.98

01:23:10.000 Why? 0.98

01:23:11.000 Because I think it's funny.

01:23:12.000 That's what I'm doing.

01:23:13.000 I assumed you understood what I was saying. 0.98

01:23:15.000 Not only do I think it's funny, a fucking arena full of people seem to think it's funny. 0.97

01:23:20.000 I know what I'm doing. 0.98

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:23.000 But I'm a good person.

01:23:25.000 I try hard to be a good person.

01:23:26.000 I'm a father.

01:23:27.000 I'm a husband.

01:23:28.000 I go out of my way to be a good person.

01:23:31.000 It's something I cultivate.

01:23:32.000 I cultivate kindness.

01:23:33.000 I really do.

01:23:34.000 I cultivate my gentle nature.

01:23:36.000 I try hard to work at it.

01:23:38.000 That's hard to argue.

01:23:39.000 I try to hug people.

01:23:40.000 I try to be as friendly as I can.

01:23:42.000 I'm not perfect, but my intent is always to be a good person.

01:23:46.000 I think you've done that.

01:23:48.000 I'm trying. 1.00

01:23:49.000 I don't think anybody can say that you're a piece of shit. 1.00

01:23:52.000 The thing about podcasts or radio or anything like that is that someone can quote mine so they can go over the... 0.99

01:23:58.000 I mean, I think if you added up 1,700 plus podcasts that are each at least two and a half hours...

01:24:06.000 Oh my God.

01:24:06.000 I've been on the air for months.

01:24:08.000 Like, straight.

01:24:09.000 Yeah, if you listen to all those back-to-back... 1.00

01:24:11.000 You're gonna find some stupid shit. 1.00

01:24:13.000 And what's the percentage that I'm high and drunk? 1.00

01:24:15.000 Like, 40?

01:24:16.000 40%, you know?

01:24:18.000 What a great point.

01:24:20.000 And I was saying it before we did the show that when I was on FM radio...

01:24:26.000 The only thing you really had to worry about was FCC regulations, which now seem quaint compared to what'll get you in trouble these days.

01:24:34.000 Imagine Howard stuff that he got in trouble for on podcasts.

01:24:39.000 It would be nothing.

01:24:40.000 Yeah.

01:24:41.000 Nothing.

01:24:43.000 And the things people get in trouble for now have nothing to do with what the FCC deemed to be this horrific thing to put out over the air. 1.00

01:24:50.000 We got the normal, you know, shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cuck, suck, a motherfucking tit thing. 1.00

01:24:54.000 And then you have bodily functions. 1.00

01:24:57.000 You can't graphically describe bodily...

01:24:59.000 We would sit with lawyers all the time about that.

01:25:02.000 So then we'd get the GM, the general manager would come in and go, Opie Anthony, come into the office, we got an FCC complaint. 1.00

01:25:08.000 Like, ah, fuck. 0.99

01:25:10.000 And when you read it, when you're saying it, you're joking. 1.00

01:25:14.000 There's comics in the room.

01:25:15.000 It's a joke.

01:25:16.000 It's this.

01:25:17.000 When you read it in a federal transcript, it looks so different.

01:25:23.000 It looks so different.

01:25:25.000 And so bad. 1.00

01:25:27.000 And then the man said, Condoleezza Rice is my bitch, and I will do this to her, and tie her up. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Voice number one laughs. 1.00

01:25:36.000 And you're like, oh, this is, you know, it looks bad.

01:25:39.000 But if you listen to the tape in context, you'll see that there was no seriousness to it.

01:25:44.000 But that was the old days.

01:25:47.000 Now...

01:25:48.000 You know, you give an opinion, an opinion that someone asked you for.

01:25:53.000 Those are my favorite.

01:25:54.000 Someone in the media will say, hey, Joe Rogan, what do you think about this?

01:25:58.000 And you go, oh, I think blah, blah, blah.

01:26:00.000 And then they'll be, Joe Rogan says...

01:26:03.000 It's like, first of all, you asked me for an opinion.

01:26:07.000 I was just walking down the street. 1.00

01:26:09.000 And then you're using it to try to fuck me over. 1.00

01:26:13.000 Yeah, but it's news. 1.00

01:26:15.000 It's something to talk about.

01:26:16.000 It's something that people disagree with, so they want to be upset about it.

01:26:19.000 That honestly doesn't bother me that much.

01:26:21.000 And one of the reasons why it doesn't bother me is Spotify has had my back on every one of these things.

01:26:24.000 Which is great.

01:26:25.000 They say nothing he said has violated any of our terms.

01:26:28.000 Yeah.

01:26:28.000 Because I don't do things to be a bad person.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:32.000 But if I have an opinion on something, and it just doesn't happen to fit with what you're trying to promote, Sorry.

01:26:39.000 An opinion now is like gospel.

01:26:41.000 It's dangerous.

01:26:43.000 And when a comic says something, you really have to put it in context that it's not your physician saying it.

01:26:53.000 It's not your lawyer saying it.

01:26:55.000 It's not a politician saying it. 0.99

01:26:57.000 It's a fucking comic saying it. 0.99

01:27:00.000 And people are dying to get out and see funny comedy again. 1.00

01:27:05.000 Oh, wild comedy.

01:27:06.000 Cheers.

01:27:07.000 Wild comedy.

01:27:08.000 Absolutely.

01:27:09.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:27:09.000 Yeah.

01:27:10.000 We're doing this Comedians of the Compound thing.

01:27:13.000 We're doing it at the Creek in the Cave, right?

01:27:15.000 We're doing another Vulcan.

01:27:16.000 Oh, Vulcan's great too.

01:27:17.000 Vulcan, Friday and Saturday night. 0.99

01:27:20.000 Austin has a great fucking comedy scene. 0.99

01:27:23.000 It's alive right now. 1.00

01:27:24.000 They followed you.

01:27:26.000 They're like, Rogan's coming here? 1.00

01:27:28.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:27:29.000 I'm going to get them all on. 1.00

01:27:30.000 I'll help them all.

01:27:31.000 I want to promote it.

01:27:32.000 It's awesome.

01:27:33.000 You do have this...

01:27:34.000 How weird is that, dude?

01:27:36.000 You got a power.

01:27:37.000 You have a platform that is a power, and that's why people hate it.

01:27:41.000 But I was saying, you are... 0.99

01:27:45.000 Especially to comics, but to everybody, what fucking Johnny Carson was. 0.98

01:27:51.000 Like, this is the 2021, the 21st century version of The Tonight Show. 0.91

01:27:58.000 Late night TV shows aren't doing well.

01:28:00.000 People don't like them.

01:28:02.000 They're too sanitized.

01:28:04.000 They're sanitized.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:06.000 There's no edge to it. 0.98

01:28:07.000 When you saw Johnny Carson in the old days and fucking Sinatra would just walk out the curtain and Dino's there and Rickles, they didn't know what the fuck was going to happen. 0.98

01:28:18.000 And that's what people loved about it. 0.99

01:28:21.000 And now it's this antiseptic, hey, we're going to see how many eggs you can juggle.

01:28:27.000 And, you know, the tough, cutting-edge comedy of goofing on Trump.

01:28:33.000 You know, it just – what you're doing here is the equivalent – Of Carson with a new technology.

01:28:41.000 People listen to you.

01:28:43.000 They watch you.

01:28:44.000 Guests want to be on the show.

01:28:46.000 It's such a strange phenomenon because I've known you for so many years and you're the guy now.

01:28:51.000 Well, not only that, it was born out of your show.

01:28:55.000 A lot of it.

01:28:55.000 Which is crazy, yeah.

01:28:56.000 Which is crazy.

01:28:57.000 I love it, man.

01:28:58.000 It's legitimately born out of your show.

01:29:00.000 And not just Opie and Anthony, but again, live from the compound.

01:29:03.000 I remember me and Red Band were sitting in my house.

01:29:05.000 We were sitting in my house, watching on my laptop, you doing live in the compound. 0.96

01:29:10.000 And we were like, bro, we should fucking do something like this.

01:29:13.000 That's literally where we started doing the Ustream. 0.96

01:29:15.000 We started streaming on Ustream.

01:29:17.000 Because you were on Ustream, right?

01:29:18.000 That's what it was.

01:29:19.000 I'd grab a Barrett.50 caliber sniper rifle and sing love songs.

01:29:25.000 It was psychotic.

01:29:27.000 But you were doing it, and they were upset.

01:29:29.000 That was another thing.

01:29:30.000 They were upset that you were doing it because you had this radio gig.

01:29:33.000 But you were like, but no, this is promoting the radio gig.

01:29:37.000 It's my house.

01:29:38.000 Yeah, this is fun.

01:29:39.000 I didn't sign a contract that said I can't talk in my house on the internet.

01:29:42.000 They didn't know what was going on.

01:29:44.000 They didn't shore up that loophole.

01:29:47.000 Right, and that's exactly why I was able to continue doing it.

01:29:51.000 And you had a full setup with, like, broadcast-style microphones and real production cameras?

01:29:55.000 Yeah, I wanted it to look professional. 0.99

01:29:56.000 I said, I want it to look like a fucking drunk broke into a professional studio. 0.98

01:30:02.000 Well, what it was like was, like, a drunk had a lot of money. 0.99

01:30:06.000 Right?

01:30:06.000 Well, it wasn't only like that.

01:30:09.000 It was exactly that, Joe.

01:30:12.000 And it was very appealing to me.

01:30:14.000 I enjoyed it very much.

01:30:15.000 Just having fun.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, it was fun.

01:30:17.000 And it was.

01:30:18.000 It's one of those things where, yeah, I had my job at SiriusXM, but there were bosses.

01:30:24.000 There's management.

01:30:25.000 There's other people that you have to deal with.

01:30:27.000 When you set up something like that, it's you. 0.99

01:30:30.000 I could do whatever the fuck I want. 0.99

01:30:32.000 Yes. 0.99

01:30:33.000 I had a girlfriend at the time that was like, I want you to do the weather.

01:30:38.000 I just know that this green screen, I could put a weather map up there and you just do it.

01:30:42.000 And she's drunk and she's like, I think there's something coming.

01:30:46.000 I'm like, this is funny.

01:30:48.000 I don't even know what it means, but it's funny. 0.97

01:30:50.000 And I could do whatever the fuck I want. 0.99

01:30:52.000 And you fucking took that to the umpteenth level. 0.99

01:30:58.000 And it wasn't for a while. 0.99

01:31:00.000 What happened with Marc Maron?

01:31:03.000 Like the Joe Rogan eclipse.

01:31:06.000 Because Marc Maron was the guy for a while.

01:31:09.000 He had Obama on at some point.

01:31:11.000 Yeah, he did have Obama on. 0.99

01:31:12.000 And then, like, he was the go-to podcast guy, and then you fucking come out of nowhere smoking weed and drinking. 0.92

01:31:20.000 Well, that, I think, is the difference. 0.96

01:31:22.000 I think that was.

01:31:23.000 And Mark Barron's still doing very well.

01:31:25.000 Madness.

01:31:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:31:26.000 Barron's doing very well.

01:31:27.000 It's just his thing is different.

01:31:29.000 He's a more sedated guy.

01:31:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:32.000 It's like there's less...

01:31:35.000 Chaos.

01:31:35.000 I think you're more open to other people's ideologies, too.

01:31:40.000 At least to listen to them.

01:31:41.000 That's a big thing.

01:31:42.000 I'm not opposed to listening to conservatives or liberals.

01:31:46.000 Even though I'm a liberal and I get labeled a conservative all the time, I don't mind listening to people's perspective.

01:31:53.000 I love Dan Crenshaw.

01:31:54.000 I have him on all the time.

01:31:56.000 I have conservative people on all the time.

01:31:58.000 I don't mind.

01:31:59.000 But people get mad at me.

01:32:01.000 I remember this lady... 1.00

01:32:02.000 She made this fucking, this weird chart connecting people to people that they talk to and trying to equate guilt by association. 1.00

01:32:10.000 Oh, a red thread and pin person? 0.99

01:32:11.000 Yeah, and so she had me as this podcast host and all these platforms that I elevated.

01:32:16.000 And it was very disingenuous because she didn't tag in all the liberal people that I had on. 0.99

01:32:20.000 Right.

01:32:20.000 All the progressive people that I had on.

01:32:22.000 It was only the conservatives.

01:32:23.000 And so I tweeted her and I said, Barbara Walters interviewed Fidel Castro.

01:32:29.000 Does that make her a communist?

01:32:30.000 Yeah.

01:32:31.000 And then she was like, Joe Rogan favorably compared himself to Barbara Walters.

01:32:35.000 I'm like, okay, I see what you're doing.

01:32:36.000 I see where you're going with this.

01:32:38.000 I see what you're doing.

01:32:38.000 Good luck.

01:32:39.000 It's always a minefield.

01:32:41.000 But here's the thing.

01:32:42.000 I don't have to get picked for anything.

01:32:44.000 So I'm not that guy who's trying to audition for things.

01:32:47.000 I don't have to hedge my words.

01:32:49.000 I just have to be a nice person.

01:32:51.000 And I'm not trying to be a bad person.

01:32:52.000 I'm just trying to be a nice person.

01:32:54.000 But I'm going to be honest.

01:32:55.000 So because I don't have to worry...

01:32:57.000 Some people interpret that as being a bad person, by the way.

01:32:59.000 But it's because I don't have to worry the way most people have to worry.

01:33:03.000 I don't have to.

01:33:04.000 So I'm not going to.

01:33:05.000 Have you ever been chastised, lack of a better word, from your UFC job?

01:33:12.000 Never.

01:33:13.000 Really?

01:33:14.000 How awesome is that? 0.99

01:33:15.000 Dana White doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:33:18.000 Dude, isn't that great? 1.00

01:33:20.000 He gives 18 levels of fucks less than me. 1.00

01:33:22.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:33:24.000 That guy's worth a half a billion dollars and he doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:33:27.000 He's wearing fucking sneakers and t-shirts. 1.00

01:33:30.000 If you looked at him, you'd never know he's rich as shit. 1.00

01:33:32.000 He's as normal as they come. 1.00

01:33:34.000 He's just a regular dude.

01:33:36.000 If you hung out with him, you'd love him.

01:33:37.000 He's a great guy.

01:33:38.000 He's great.

01:33:39.000 I've met him a couple of times. 1.00

01:33:40.000 He's fucking great. 0.99

01:33:42.000 I think he was on the ONA show once or twice. 0.99

01:33:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:46.000 Because a lot of people, I think, and the only reason I asked that, I kind of assumed it, is that I think a lot of people wonder that.

01:33:53.000 Like, oh, does Joe have to tame some stuff down so he doesn't fuck up his gig? 0.85

01:33:57.000 There was an issue where someone was talking to Dana about it one time, and he goes, hey, listen, I don't give a fuck what Rogan's talking about as long as he's talking about MMA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.92

01:34:06.000 When he talks about MMA, I give a fuck what he says about MMA. And he knows that what I say about... 0.98

01:34:11.000 If I'm talking about fighters and fights, I'm always very respectful.

01:34:14.000 I treat it with reverence.

01:34:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:16.000 And when I'm trying to do my very best...

01:34:19.000 That comes across, fuck it. 1.00

01:34:20.000 ...to give life... 1.00

01:34:23.000 With these words to honor what they're doing.

01:34:26.000 That's what I'm trying to do.

01:34:28.000 That's my goal.

01:34:28.000 My goal is to just...

01:34:29.000 I'm like a professional fan.

01:34:31.000 And I know enough about it that I can describe things in a way that makes it a little bit more exciting.

01:34:36.000 I'm a comedian, so I can give a little flavor to things.

01:34:38.000 I just want to enhance the broadcast.

01:34:41.000 You could tell you're passionate about it.

01:34:43.000 There are people that just have a job and they're supposed to be like, yeah, this is great, I'm talking about this, and then they punch out and they're done. 0.99

01:34:52.000 But you could tell you're passionate about that fucking sport and it comes across every time. 0.94

01:34:58.000 Dude, I did that gig for free for the first 15 shows. 1.00

01:35:02.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:35:03.000 Yeah, that's what happened. 0.99

01:35:04.000 The UFC was struggling.

01:35:05.000 They had just bought the company.

01:35:07.000 It wasn't financially viable.

01:35:09.000 They weren't making money.

01:35:10.000 They were like their big guys at the time.

01:35:11.000 There was like Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell.

01:35:13.000 This was like pre-2005.

01:35:16.000 2005 is when it really took off because of The Ultimate Fighter.

01:35:18.000 That was season one of The Ultimate Fighter.

01:35:20.000 So I was on Fear Factor, and Dana and I became friends because he offered me tickets to the fights when they had just bought the UFC. So I would go to these UFC events...

01:35:31.000 And I was a giant fan.

01:35:33.000 So I would talk to Dana about Pride and K1 and like, you should try to get Sakurai.

01:35:39.000 Do you know about this guy?

01:35:40.000 Have you ever seen Fedor fight?

01:35:42.000 I would talk about all these different fighters.

01:35:43.000 And then Dana was like, why don't you do commentary?

01:35:46.000 I'm like, Listen, man.

01:35:47.000 I come here to get drunk with my friends and have fun.

01:35:50.000 I work all day.

01:35:51.000 I do stand-up.

01:35:52.000 I just want to come whenever you have the fights and sit down and have a good time.

01:35:56.000 So he talked me into it once because they were doing UFC 37 and a half.

01:36:01.000 Now they're at...

01:36:02.000 262. Crazy, yeah.

01:36:04.000 And UFC 37 and a half was Best Damn Sports Show, period. 0.97

01:36:07.000 Remember that show? 0.91

01:36:08.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.95

01:36:08.000 They were doing a simulcast where Best Damn Sports Show, period. 0.95

01:36:12.000 And Leanne Tweeden was in there, and I was in there.

01:36:14.000 And they were helping to promote the UFC and kind of make a big deal of it.

01:36:19.000 And Tito Ortiz fought Chuck Liddell.

01:36:21.000 No, excuse me.

01:36:22.000 Chuck Liddell fought Vitor Belfort.

01:36:25.000 And it was like a big fight.

01:36:26.000 It was a big deal.

01:36:27.000 And he asked me to do commentary.

01:36:28.000 And I said, okay, I'll do it this one time.

01:36:30.000 So I did it this one time, 100% for free.

01:36:32.000 And then he said, come on, do it again.

01:36:34.000 How did you feel doing it?

01:36:35.000 Were you comfortable?

01:36:36.000 It was fun.

01:36:36.000 Like, I think I did a good job.

01:36:37.000 I mean, I was terrible.

01:36:39.000 If you listened to me today, I would say I was annoying.

01:36:41.000 You know, if I would go...

01:36:42.000 I'm not a professional.

01:36:43.000 Early tapes of anything you do are just the worst.

01:36:47.000 I tell that to comics when they're thinking about doing a podcast.

01:36:49.000 Like, oh, I don't want to...

01:36:50.000 That's me.

01:36:51.000 Look at me.

01:36:52.000 Fresh-faced.

01:36:53.000 Fresh-faced kid. 0.80

01:36:55.000 Full of piss and vinegar. 0.98

01:36:56.000 The whole world at his feet. 0.93

01:36:59.000 Wow, look how excited I was.

01:37:00.000 You really are.

01:37:01.000 But it was legit.

01:37:02.000 Look at all that hair.

01:37:04.000 I was so happy then.

01:37:05.000 I'm happy now.

01:37:07.000 So I did that, and then Dana talked me into doing another one.

01:37:11.000 And then I said, look, I remember my manager was like, hey, you should probably be getting paid for this.

01:37:18.000 I'm like...

01:37:18.000 A manager, of course.

01:37:20.000 I told them, I go, fly me out.

01:37:22.000 I have the best manager ever, but I told them, just fly me out and give some tickets to my friends.

01:37:26.000 I go, we just want to have some drinks, watch some great fights, have a nice meal, go get some steak.

01:37:33.000 What a great night.

01:37:34.000 Simple pleasures.

01:37:35.000 That's what I wanted.

01:37:35.000 I wanted a great night.

01:37:36.000 And so then it was like 15 fights in, and then they were like, look, we want to offer you a contract.

01:37:42.000 Wow.

01:37:42.000 And then, you know, next thing you know, I've been doing it now since 2001. Isn't it amazing?

01:37:48.000 Having some of the greatest gigs you've gotten just happened because of a time and a place and luck and...

01:37:56.000 Doing things because you like them.

01:37:57.000 The same thing with this podcast. 0.99

01:37:59.000 I didn't get any money out of this podcast for fucking years and years and years. 0.99

01:38:03.000 Took forever. 0.98

01:38:04.000 Because I didn't do it for money.

01:38:05.000 I did it for fun.

01:38:06.000 I did it because I saw you with a machine gun standing in front of a green screen and I was like, I want to do that.

01:38:12.000 That looks like he's having a good time.

01:38:13.000 When you can have, like when I started, I got fired back in 2014. I've been doing Compound now seven years.

01:38:21.000 And by the way, when you guys got fired, that was when I started doing your show.

01:38:25.000 No, no, before that, not 2014. Well, we got fired from Terrestrial Radio.

01:38:28.000 When you guys got fired the first time, I wrote an article on my blog about it. 0.99

01:38:32.000 Oh, shit, yeah. 0.99

01:38:33.000 And in support of you guys. 1.00

01:38:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:35.000 This is crazy.

01:38:36.000 You've always been fucking supportive. 0.99

01:38:37.000 And then when that happened, that's when I started doing your show. 0.98

01:38:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:43.000 Yeah.

01:38:57.000 Like how to learn everything of how to put it out there.

01:39:00.000 I knew how to go in my basement and make a show.

01:39:02.000 I just didn't know at the end of the wire where everything else was supposed to go.

01:39:07.000 Now it's got to go out.

01:39:08.000 So there's logistics.

01:39:09.000 There's bandwidth charges. 0.99

01:39:11.000 There's all these things no one fucking thinks about. 0.51

01:39:15.000 When you're talking about putting together, especially video broadcasts. 0.96

01:39:22.000 The bandwidth charges are giant.

01:39:23.000 It's crazy. 0.99

01:39:24.000 No one figures that shit out. 1.00

01:39:26.000 They never think of it. 1.00

01:39:27.000 It's like, oh, you put it online.

01:39:28.000 Corolla was the first guy to talk about that.

01:39:30.000 I remember him talking about his monthly charge.

01:39:32.000 I was like, what? 0.97

01:39:33.000 Well, let me tell you something that happened in fucking 1997. I was working at WAAF. Up in Massachusetts with Opie. 0.96

01:39:41.000 It was the first gig I ever had. 0.98

01:39:44.000 And digital cameras were first starting to come out and they were just giant fucking things and no compression on the pictures. 0.92

01:39:51.000 It was just a nightmare to download and try to put up on a site. 0.90

01:39:56.000 Well, I went to this internet provider up there.

01:39:59.000 This is the 90s.

01:40:00.000 And got a page.

01:40:02.000 And I was like, this is the Opie and Anthony show page.

01:40:05.000 I'm going to take pictures of what we do during the day in the studio. 0.99

01:40:09.000 And we had naked girls up there all the time and fucking... 1.00

01:40:12.000 There was something we called the blue tarp cabaret. 0.99

01:40:15.000 We'd put a blue tarp on the floor and have naked girls wrestle in whatever food was laying around. 1.00

01:40:21.000 So we'd take creamed corn and fuck it. 0.99

01:40:23.000 It was great. 0.99

01:40:24.000 And I'm snapping pictures with this digital camera...

01:40:27.000 Then I'd go home and put that and some video, short clips of video up on the site.

01:40:34.000 And I'm like, this is great.

01:40:35.000 No one's doing this.

01:40:36.000 No one's giving the people the visual medium of what's going on in the radio studio at that time.

01:40:42.000 Like I said, mid-90s.

01:40:44.000 Well, at the end of the month...

01:40:46.000 This internet company that I've been using, TIAC they were called, sends me a bill for $30,000!

01:40:55.000 Bandwidth!

01:40:55.000 Because these videos weren't compressed.

01:40:58.000 These were like full fucking AVI, 40 megs! 0.98

01:41:03.000 And they're like, what did you expect? 0.98

01:41:06.000 No, you can't just put...

01:41:07.000 Because I didn't know!

01:41:08.000 Right.

01:41:08.000 So I talk to them, and they're like, look, we get this a lot.

01:41:12.000 We'll wipe that clean, but just you have to know that you're going to be charged X amount of money for these things.

01:41:18.000 And I'm like, oh, that's the catch.

01:41:20.000 It was a different world.

01:41:21.000 Oh, the Wild West.

01:41:22.000 That's how they get you, whether it's YouTube or – like YouTube in particular, because with YouTube, there's no cost, but you're under their control.

01:41:32.000 Yeah.

01:41:33.000 And that's where it gets strange.

01:41:34.000 Yeah.

01:41:34.000 And if your material is getting views, they're going to make money.

01:41:39.000 They're going to make money, but they don't treat you like you're a partner, per se.

01:41:43.000 No, no, no, no.

01:41:44.000 Because there's too many partners.

01:41:45.000 There's millions and millions and millions of people uploading constantly.

01:41:48.000 So it's very hard for them to manage all that.

01:41:51.000 So they hire people to do it.

01:41:53.000 And the problem with those people that are hiring it is that it's all subjective.

01:41:56.000 They can decide this one is demonetized.

01:41:59.000 This one's not.

01:42:00.000 Oh, they do it all the time. 1.00

01:42:01.000 Tim Dillon is a real problem.

01:42:02.000 Like, Tim Dillon's...

01:42:03.000 Most of his stuff gets demonetized.

01:42:04.000 Yep.

01:42:05.000 So he's got to start this Patreon page.

01:42:07.000 Because he's funny. 0.99

01:42:09.000 So he says, wild shit. 1.00

01:42:10.000 And when he says, wild shit, they're like, stop. 1.00

01:42:13.000 Stop. 1.00

01:42:14.000 Stop with the wild shit. 1.00

01:42:15.000 That's it. 1.00

01:42:15.000 De-platform. 1.00

01:42:15.000 But meanwhile, the wild shit is what's making him popular. 1.00

01:42:17.000 Do you understand there's a market for wild shit? 1.00

01:42:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:42:20.000 There is.

01:42:21.000 And then they'll tell you, well, make your own internet. 1.00

01:42:25.000 It's like, look, motherfucker, I have made... 0.99

01:42:29.000 Everything I can that is self-sufficient. 0.98

01:42:33.000 But at some point, it has to leave my hands and go to Fios's fiber optic cables, it's got to go to a server, it's got to use Amazon, it's got to use this. 0.99

01:42:44.000 And all those are vulnerabilities to people saying, hey, why you got this piece of shit? 0.97

01:42:49.000 So that's always the weak link. 1.00

01:42:53.000 In the machine.

01:42:55.000 Well, they've done one thing that you've got to give credit to when it comes to social media and these platforms.

01:43:01.000 They have silenced conservative thought in a strange way.

01:43:06.000 When you look at 2016. Yeah, you look at Milo when he was at his peak.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, Yiannopoulos was huge.

01:43:13.000 And he was... 1.00

01:43:14.000 Almost untouchable because he was a gay guy who was married to a black guy saying wild shit. 1.00

01:43:21.000 Wild conservative things. 1.00

01:43:22.000 And that was his thing. 0.99

01:43:25.000 Now they scare the gay out of him. 1.00

01:43:26.000 He's not even gay anymore. 0.99

01:43:27.000 They petrified him so bad the gay left his body. 1.00

01:43:31.000 His act, what he was doing was saying wild shit. 1.00

01:43:36.000 That was his business model. 1.00

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:38.000 Yeah, but you talked to that guy off air, and I know you have.

01:43:41.000 He's a lovely guy.

01:43:42.000 Really is.

01:43:43.000 He really is.

01:43:44.000 I just spoke to him probably three weeks ago.

01:43:45.000 He was on the show.

01:43:46.000 And people got mad because of what he was promoting, but I think part of the problem was that there was an established power base.

01:43:53.000 Of, like, liberal thought and left-leaning thought, and they were in control of the tech platforms, and when these guys, like Milo in particular, he was the big one, because he was so charismatic, and he got through, then all of a sudden they were like, Jesus Christ, we got a real problem here.

01:44:09.000 We don't agree with this guy, we don't agree with him, and he's out there wilding. 1.00

01:44:13.000 And they didn't know what to do with him because he was gay, because he was married to a black guy, like, Fuck! 1.00

01:44:17.000 Yeah, we can't call him a racist. 1.00

01:44:19.000 And he's Jewish! 0.70

01:44:19.000 We can't call him homophobic. 0.70

01:44:21.000 We can't call him anti-Semitic.

01:44:22.000 He had everything!

01:44:23.000 What label can we put on this guy?

01:44:24.000 Well, they just decided to just silence him.

01:44:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:44:27.000 And interestingly enough, one of the problems with him was some shit that he said on my show, ironically. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Because he was talking about young guys having sex with gay older men. 1.00

01:44:40.000 And one of his personal experiences. 0.99

01:44:42.000 Yes.

01:44:42.000 But here's the thing, man.

01:44:43.000 I've talked to multiple gay friends who have had similar experiences, and this is a small sample size, right?

01:44:52.000 I'm talking about six or seven guys, and they've said that in their world, there's comics and other folks, they've said that in that world, that's normal.

01:45:00.000 It's normal for a 15-year-old, 16-year-old gay guy to have a relationship with a 35-year-old gay man.

01:45:06.000 Right.

01:45:07.000 And I'm like, oh, okay.

01:45:08.000 It's interesting.

01:45:10.000 I'm not saying that it's right, but I'm saying that it's common.

01:45:13.000 Do you say these things on purpose, Joe?

01:45:15.000 That I'm not saying that it's right?

01:45:17.000 No, I just see the headline now. 0.99

01:45:19.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:45:20.000 I don't give a fuck! 1.00

01:45:21.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:45:22.000 I mean, I'm just telling what my friends have told me. 0.98

01:45:25.000 And I find that awesome because every time something's said like that, all I see is... 0.99

01:45:33.000 Not that I give a fuck either, believe me. 0.98

01:45:35.000 All I see is a headline saying, Joe Rogan endorses... 1.00

01:45:40.000 Gay child sex. 1.00

01:45:41.000 I don't. 1.00

01:45:42.000 Of course not.

01:45:44.000 But they say, the people that I've talked to, that it's not in their world.

01:45:51.000 It's not thought of the same.

01:45:53.000 Remember, who was that guy?

01:45:53.000 Who's that film producer that had those wild parties?

01:45:56.000 We'd have a whole pool filled with gay guys. 0.97

01:45:58.000 Roman Polanski? 0.99

01:45:59.000 No, no, no. 0.99

01:46:00.000 Oh, gay guys. 1.00

01:46:01.000 Brian.

01:46:02.000 Oh, Singer. 1.00

01:46:03.000 Yes.

01:46:03.000 Got in deep trouble for that very thing.

01:46:06.000 Yes.

01:46:06.000 Because he'd have like young guys, I don't know if they were 18 or whatever they were, but he'd have like a shitload of them in a pool together partying in these photos.

01:46:14.000 People are like, that's a problem.

01:46:15.000 But is it a problem?

01:46:16.000 Because they look like they're having a good time.

01:46:18.000 What's the problem?

01:46:19.000 Yeah.

01:46:20.000 Well, the problem is that the laws are saying people aren't able to consent to what might be happening out of the pool a little later.

01:46:28.000 I want to put it this way.

01:46:30.000 Imagine if it was a pool filled with these young guys and then outside the pool was all 50-year-old women who look like Elizabeth Hurley. 1.00

01:46:40.000 Who's got a problem with that?

01:46:42.000 Who's got a problem with all these straight 17-year-old guys banging super-hot 50-year-old women?

01:46:48.000 How about zero people?

01:46:50.000 No one. 1.00

01:46:50.000 Fucking zero people. 1.00

01:46:52.000 No one. 0.99

01:46:52.000 Think about all the hottest older actresses, ladies, that are hanging on, really strongly hanging on. 0.99

01:47:01.000 If you found out they were banging 17-year-old kids, you'd want to high-five those kids. 1.00

01:47:06.000 Yeah.

01:47:07.000 Who had a bit about that?

01:47:11.000 Zach Galifianakis! 0.97

01:47:12.000 He was talking about a young boy died after he had sex with his teacher because his friends high-fived him to death. 0.99

01:47:18.000 High-fived him! 0.96

01:47:21.000 We do a bit on the show whenever there's a teacher that is having sex with their underage students, and it's like, we don't show the face of the teacher first, and we talk about what happened.

01:47:32.000 Why don't you show her face? 0.52

01:47:33.000 Well, not immediately.

01:47:34.000 We just read what happened.

01:47:36.000 It's like, alright, she drove him back to the house.

01:47:39.000 They had some drinks.

01:47:40.000 They went into the bedroom. 1.00

01:47:41.000 She performed oral sex on it and stuff. 0.99

01:47:43.000 And then we go, okay, now we're going to look at the face and see how much time is she going to get in jail. 1.00

01:47:49.000 And then, bam, we pop it up and go, slap on the wrist, walks away with the judge going, have a great life.

01:47:54.000 Because she's hot! 1.00

01:47:55.000 She's fucking smoking! 1.00

01:47:57.000 And it's every time, and then you read the sentencing, and it is literally, hey, you, now you knock it off. 1.00

01:48:05.000 100%. 0.97

01:48:05.000 And then sometimes it's the lunch lady looking thing, and we're like, oh, that's fucking 25 to life. 0.97

01:48:11.000 And God forbid it's a guy teacher having sex with a girl. 1.00

01:48:15.000 They are just done. 0.99

01:48:17.000 Over, Johnny.

01:48:18.000 The idea of sexual equality does not... 0.77

01:48:20.000 I used to have a bit about that, that sexual equality, there's no sexual equality in child molesting.

01:48:28.000 We think very differently of it.

01:48:30.000 Because there was a commercial.

01:48:32.000 There was a commercial for Just For Men.

01:48:36.000 Do you remember this commercial?

01:48:37.000 Just for Men is like hair dye?

01:48:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:39.000 And there was a baby, a fucking baby, who was driving around in a Porsche. 1.00

01:48:43.000 It's the craziest commercial of all time. 1.00

01:48:45.000 There's a baby driving around a Porsche with a smoking hot lady. 1.00

01:48:49.000 So he's got a grown lady with him.

01:48:51.000 Look, this is a baby driving around in his car.

01:48:53.000 Look at his little beard!

01:48:55.000 This is Just for Men. 1.00

01:48:55.000 So he pulls up at a fucking club, and look at him. 1.00

01:48:59.000 He's like, what is this? 1.00

01:49:01.000 Why is the baby? 0.99

01:49:02.000 So now the baby has a bottle, and he's on the dance floor with all these broads, and he's dancing, and they're all hot, and they're hanging around with a fucking baby, and it doesn't make any sense. 1.00

01:49:13.000 What's the M.O.? My bit was, imagine if it was a small girl, like a three-year-old girl that's driving a car, and she goes to a nightclub. 0.98

01:49:24.000 They let her in, and everywhere there's dudes with kilts on, swinging cocks. 1.00

01:49:29.000 You'd be like, you're going straight to jail. 1.00

01:49:31.000 What the fuck is this? 0.99

01:49:32.000 But that commercial, because there is no sexual equality when it comes to child molesting, that commercial is deemed acceptable, but for some strange reason. 1.00

01:49:41.000 There is no equality. 0.99

01:49:43.000 What the fuck is that? 1.00

01:49:43.000 Show me that again! 1.00

01:49:44.000 I don't even know what the goal is there.

01:49:47.000 Is it that you'll look younger?

01:49:48.000 You look like a baby, Anthony.

01:49:50.000 I understand if they want to say, well, if you dye your beard, you'll look younger, but it doesn't make any sense.

01:49:58.000 Look at it.

01:49:58.000 He's got an old Porsche.

01:50:00.000 Look at the girl. 1.00

01:50:00.000 She's hot as fuck. 1.00

01:50:01.000 She's so happy. 1.00

01:50:02.000 He's hilarious.

01:50:03.000 And he's driving, too, by the way.

01:50:05.000 They're letting him in like he's been there before.

01:50:06.000 Yeah, and they're all cheering.

01:50:08.000 He shows up.

01:50:09.000 There's a baby bottle.

01:50:10.000 He's got a bottle.

01:50:11.000 Dude, they're kissing him.

01:50:12.000 Yes, they're kissing him.

01:50:14.000 Imagine.

01:50:14.000 And look at him dancing.

01:50:15.000 And then he's out on the dance floor dressed like an adult.

01:50:18.000 Look at how short their skirts are. 1.00

01:50:18.000 Look at the girls behind him. 1.00

01:50:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:20.000 Look at that.

01:50:22.000 It's crazy.

01:50:23.000 Now, also, you know, you could predict where they're going. 1.00

01:50:26.000 They're gonna fuck. 1.00

01:50:27.000 Are they fucking? 1.00

01:50:29.000 100%. 1.00

01:50:30.000 He went there.

01:50:31.000 He got her all juiced up.

01:50:32.000 They're dancing.

01:50:34.000 Got a couple of drinks in her. 0.83

01:50:35.000 He's got his bottle of milk.

01:50:36.000 He's ready to go.

01:50:38.000 I've seen the way they make commercials and stuff, and everyone from the company usually sits at a conference room, and they play it, and then it ends, and then they go, okay, so what do you think?

01:50:47.000 Like, that room must have just been like...

01:50:49.000 Love it.

01:50:50.000 Perfect.

01:50:51.000 That's our brand.

01:50:52.000 Love it.

01:50:52.000 Good.

01:50:53.000 It's on brand with Just For Men.

01:50:55.000 Do you think someone was sitting there just going...

01:50:57.000 Like in Big, I don't get it.

01:50:59.000 I don't get it.

01:51:00.000 It's a bug.

01:51:01.000 No, no one said that. 1.00

01:51:02.000 They're all a bunch of perverted men. 1.00

01:51:04.000 Right, right. 1.00

01:51:05.000 Like, yeah, I want to be a baby and fuck some old ladies. 1.00

01:51:07.000 It doesn't make any sense. 1.00

01:51:09.000 It's the craziest commercial of all time.

01:51:11.000 Jesus Christ.

01:51:12.000 That commercial's so crazy.

01:51:14.000 But you could never reverse the sexes in that commercial. 0.99

01:51:18.000 No, no, no.

01:51:18.000 Impossible.

01:51:19.000 So it shows that we are not thought of As equals.

01:51:24.000 No, no.

01:51:25.000 Especially not in that category. 0.98

01:51:28.000 Yeah, the whole man-women equality thing has caused so much shit, making the police departments diverse. 1.00

01:51:38.000 The military, they just came out with a statistic that a huge percentage of women are failing the physical fitness test for... 1.00

01:51:47.000 Basic entry into the army.

01:51:50.000 That men pass every single—you get the wimpiest guy who's going to pass it.

01:51:54.000 And women are having a problem with this, yet we keep seeing this push to diversify the military. 1.00

01:52:01.000 I just picture Russia and China laughing their balls off. 0.93

01:52:05.000 Like, I saw a CIA commercial, a couple of them, that have been playing.

01:52:10.000 Oh, the diversity commercial?

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:11.000 The inclusiveness commercial?

01:52:12.000 Dude, there's a gay dude. 1.00

01:52:14.000 I haven't seen the commercial.

01:52:16.000 I've heard of it.

01:52:16.000 Oh, it's a CIA diversity commercial.

01:52:20.000 There's one that's a gay guy.

01:52:22.000 He's a librarian for the CIA, and his job is to pick out mind-bending games for the agents to play.

01:52:32.000 And he was all psyched that the- This is a commercial?

01:52:35.000 The CIA agent.

01:52:36.000 Yeah, it's like a- It's like a recruitment thing.

01:52:39.000 He was happy that head of the FBI at the time, Brennan, had a rainbow lanyard on his thing.

01:52:47.000 And I'm just thinking, what happened to, like, the CIA? That isn't the place for diversity. 0.99

01:52:54.000 There is just some places where the best people that are suited for the job should be given the job.

01:53:00.000 And if that's a gay guy, that's fine. 0.87

01:53:02.000 But why advertise, like, hey, we need more gay people in the CIA? Yeah. 1.00

01:53:06.000 Well, because in this day and age, there's like a narrative, and that narrative is inclusivity and diversity trumps meritocracy.

01:53:16.000 Yes! 0.99

01:53:17.000 Oh, fuck yeah! 1.00

01:53:18.000 So this is it? 1.00

01:53:18.000 Play this. 1.00

01:53:19.000 No, I don't think this is it.

01:53:21.000 Our nation is counting on you.

01:53:23.000 No?

01:53:24.000 They had another thing going on this week.

01:53:26.000 It's CIA woke.

01:53:28.000 It's the woke CIA, but...

01:53:30.000 What is that one, though?

01:53:31.000 Is that a different woke one?

01:53:32.000 This is the...

01:53:33.000 I think...

01:53:35.000 Ethnic one. 0.99

01:53:36.000 The CIA went from water-boring terrorists to torturing Americans with shitty woke commercials. 0.99

01:53:41.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:53:42.000 The Daily Dot. 1.00

01:53:43.000 It's so fucked up. 1.00

01:53:44.000 Shout out to Claire. 1.00

01:53:45.000 How do you say her last name?

01:53:46.000 So, of course, on my show, we were playing the ad and then calling him Jack Reach Around.

01:53:54.000 And C.I. Gay.

01:53:57.000 And then there was another one, a blind woman. 0.99

01:54:01.000 A blind woman in the CIA. Is this it right here? 0.77

01:54:05.000 No, that's another one.

01:54:07.000 This is on their Twitter.

01:54:08.000 It says, I am unapologetically me.

01:54:10.000 I want you to be unapologetically you.

01:54:13.000 Whoever you are, whether you work at the CIA or anywhere else in the world, command your space, mija. 1.00

01:54:19.000 You are worth it. 0.99

01:54:20.000 It's a gay guy CIA recruitment. 0.74

01:54:23.000 Can I play that? 0.62

01:54:24.000 I want to see that.

01:54:24.000 That should get it.

01:54:25.000 Hold on.

01:54:25.000 Can we play it?

01:54:26.000 I want to see how that's made.

01:54:28.000 Well, you know, they're just trying to tap into this movement that we have today.

01:54:33.000 But isn't it like everything else over history?

01:54:36.000 The one thing I remember in the 90s was When you watch videos on MTV, and grunge was huge, they had those grunge-looking videos from Nirvana, and it was the shake camera, and the focal point was really narrow,

01:54:54.000 so like Kurt would go out and he'd be blurry, and then he'd come back in, in focus, like doing that.

01:55:00.000 It was a look that grunge videos had.

01:55:02.000 And I knew that was over when I saw a McDonald's commercial using that look.

01:55:07.000 I'm like, okay, this is done.

01:55:09.000 You're never going to see that.

01:55:10.000 So I think this is just that.

01:55:13.000 It's another way for them to go...

01:55:15.000 Oh, I think it's Humans of CIA. That guy.

01:55:19.000 Yeah, that's the gay dude. 0.99

01:55:21.000 Click on this one. 0.99

01:55:22.000 Let me hear this.

01:55:22.000 I wanted to be a librarian the first time I set foot in a library.

01:55:26.000 I was always a little different, even at that age.

01:55:29.000 And libraries offered a safe, quiet space where I could find tens of thousands of escapes into worlds of fantasy, mystery, and intrigue.

01:55:37.000 After finishing college, I entered the workforce as a middle school librarian, where I was able to bring that dream full circle and match my students with the perfect books.

01:55:46.000 Now, I get to experience that same type of fulfillment in a very different way here at CIA. I love my job because I have no idea what type of research question is coming through the door next.

01:55:57.000 It might be as simple as an HR officer needing to clarify a law, or as complex as an analyst needing to help identify something they saw in a video still.

01:56:06.000 There's something incredibly rewarding about knowing you are having a very real impact of potentially global proportions.

01:56:13.000 As an agency librarian, I work to ensure that our collection and services are matched up with what CIA needs.

01:56:19.000 Not only am I involved in the acquisitions of journals, books, and countless electronic resources, I'm also encouraged to curate special collections that challenge expectations.

01:56:29.000 Recently, I brought in our intelligence gaming collection to give officers unique opportunities to practice skills they need in their various roles.

01:56:36.000 Instead of sitting for hours in front of a computer-based training, they can play a carefully selected game to train a specific set of skills while simultaneously building on the myriad soft skills essential to intelligence work.

01:56:48.000 My favorite thing about CIA is that they encourage the out-of-the-box ideas that drive real progress.

01:57:14.000 I remember being stunned.

01:57:27.000 Inclusion?

01:57:27.000 Wow.

01:57:32.000 How many times have we seen that entranceway in movies?

01:57:36.000 Yeah.

01:57:38.000 Bullets flying.

01:57:39.000 There it is. 0.99

01:57:41.000 When I'm looking at that, what I'm thinking is like, it's great if they want to hire gay people. 0.94

01:57:47.000 Fine! 0.95

01:57:47.000 Hire everybody. 0.95

01:57:48.000 I got no qualms!

01:57:50.000 Does that guy want to be working there for real?

01:57:51.000 I don't know!

01:57:52.000 Does it seem like he wants to find Snowden and rat him out of his hole in Russia and bring him back to face charges?

01:57:58.000 I don't think he does.

01:57:59.000 I don't know!

01:58:00.000 It seems like that guy would be better off in a university somewhere.

01:58:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:06.000 Like, working somewhere where they're not trying to torture people.

01:58:11.000 Maybe they'll just use it to squirrel back some microfilm, if you know what I mean.

01:58:15.000 But maybe their strategy is, and this is probably a valid strategy, right?

01:58:20.000 The more diverse thinkers you get working in an environment, the more you can solve problems because you've got some out-of-the-box type thinking.

01:58:29.000 Maybe.

01:58:30.000 Maybe they're doing that to recruit people because they feel like the world is a little different than it used to be.

01:58:35.000 We need some people that think along these sort of woke lines.

01:58:40.000 Get the gay angle. 0.92

01:58:41.000 And then infiltrate. 0.88

01:58:43.000 Imagine that guy is an undercover agent, and you get him infiltrating organizations and ratting people out.

01:58:49.000 Right.

01:58:49.000 Because that's really what a lot of the CIA does.

01:58:51.000 The gay honeypot. 1.00

01:58:52.000 Like the CIA, a lot of it is undercover work. 0.99

01:58:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:55.000 Right?

01:58:55.000 So a lot of these people, like, you can't have some fucking Club Soda Kenny guy going undercover at a gay rave trying to find out who the ecstasy dealers are, right?

01:59:05.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:59:05.000 You need different folks. 0.98

01:59:07.000 I don't know. 0.87

01:59:07.000 But could you see if you're like some John Wick type character and this guy's telling you to play fucking a game of trouble with him to learn how to do something? 0.87

01:59:15.000 It just doesn't jive with what we think... 0.88

01:59:19.000 The Central Intelligence Agency.

01:59:21.000 I can't imagine there's real value in playing games like that.

01:59:24.000 That seems like theater.

01:59:27.000 That seems like nonsense. 0.98

01:59:28.000 Yeah, like they made some job for this guy to say that we have gay people in the CIA. I can't picture the old George H.W. in his prime when he was with the CIA going like, oh, I'm going to play some fucking games with the gay librarian. 0.97

01:59:42.000 Do you really understand what we're dealing with with the CCP? Do you really understand what's going on there with these internment camps for Uyghur Muslims? 0.99

01:59:49.000 Do you really understand what's happening in the fucking dark corners of the world where real horrific crimes against humanity are currently being committed? 0.99

01:59:57.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:59:58.000 Because, you know, this is wonderful if this guy really does love that job.

02:00:02.000 Let's just play some Yahtzee and we'll figure it all out.

02:00:05.000 It seems so crazy.

02:00:06.000 It really does.

02:00:08.000 And then, so I saw these spots, and we did a break on them on the show.

02:00:13.000 So I go home.

02:00:15.000 And I'm watching a documentary about the CIA in the 60s.

02:00:20.000 So 1968, there was a Russian submarine that came apart, some kind of explosion inside, and sank in the Pacific.

02:00:29.000 Americans heard the explosions from their – they had sonar for missile tests that they wanted to keep track of for the Russians and Chinese.

02:00:40.000 This is neither confirm nor deny, right?

02:00:42.000 Is it?

02:00:43.000 Isn't that the origin of neither confirm nor deny?

02:00:45.000 Because they didn't want to exactly say that it happened or didn't happen?

02:00:50.000 Yeah.

02:00:50.000 It wasn't the Kursk or anything.

02:00:52.000 It was another sub.

02:00:55.000 Oh, okay.

02:00:55.000 Americans knew exactly where it was.

02:00:57.000 The Russians are all over trying to find it. 1.00

02:00:59.000 But the Americans knew that the Russians would be watching them.

02:01:02.000 They're like, all right, we're going to raise this submarine and find the missiles and all their intelligence information and this thing.

02:01:10.000 They built a ship.

02:01:12.000 They built it from scratch under the CIA. And they used Howard Hughes' company because he's this rich guy and they decided the cover story was going to be Howard Hughes is taking this boat out to mine metal at the bottom of 20,000 feet of ocean.

02:01:29.000 Yes, Azorian.

02:01:30.000 Project Azorian.

02:01:31.000 Wow.

02:01:32.000 Dude, they took this thing out.

02:01:34.000 The mechanics behind it was amazing.

02:01:37.000 It was a giant claw.

02:01:39.000 That picked up the submarine, brought it into the sliding doors, it was like a Bond movie, of the boat, closed it, drained the water, and got everything they needed out of this sub while the Russians were literally watching the boat. 0.98

02:01:53.000 They never knew that they had fucking done this. 0.97

02:01:56.000 And I'm like, that's the CIA! They got that through playing Yahtzee with a nose ring. 0.99

02:02:02.000 Yeah! 0.98

02:02:04.000 Yeah, I don't think anyone sat back and played mousetrap or fucking tiddlywinks or skittle bowl to figure out how to do it. 0.91

02:02:17.000 The engine nearing behind it. 0.98

02:02:18.000 They literally had to build a ship that looked like a mining ship but was able to lift the A fucking submarine without anyone seeing it into the bottom of a ship. 0.95

02:02:31.000 Sci-fi stuff here. 0.98

02:02:33.000 Wow.

02:02:33.000 But it actually happened.

02:02:35.000 It's a brilliant story.

02:02:37.000 What year was that?

02:02:38.000 It sunk in 68, but it went up to 1975. It took them a long time, because they didn't want the Russians to know what they were doing.

02:02:49.000 And it took a while to build the ship from scratch, they built this thing.

02:02:53.000 A giant ship.

02:02:54.000 February 1975, investigative reporter and former New York Times writer Seymour Hersh had planned to publish a story on Project Azorian.

02:03:02.000 The New York Times' Washington bureau chief at the time said in 2005 that the government offered a convincing argument to delay publication.

02:03:09.000 Good luck with that today.

02:03:10.000 Can you imagine?

02:03:12.000 They actually were able to tell the press, hey, could you keep this on the QT? It's the Russians. 0.69

02:03:16.000 We need to do this.

02:03:17.000 Now, forget about it.

02:03:19.000 No chance.

02:03:20.000 I'm standing here on a boat as America tries to raise a Russian submarine.

02:03:25.000 Wow, that's wild.

02:03:26.000 Yeah, that was the old days, man. 0.98

02:03:29.000 Now it's blind and gay and LGBTQ CIA agents. 0.95

02:03:36.000 I don't know if that's good.

02:03:38.000 I think the inclusion part of anything is good.

02:03:41.000 I think if you're gay and you want to be a CIA agent, that's fine. 0.97

02:03:45.000 But not because you're a gay CIA agent. 1.00

02:03:48.000 Just be gay and be a CIA agent. 0.99

02:03:52.000 And that's always been my argument. 0.91

02:03:53.000 I don't have – people get me wrong a lot of times.

02:03:57.000 I know they do.

02:03:58.000 They think I'm this racist guy.

02:04:01.000 I'm sexist. 0.69

02:04:02.000 I'm homophobic.

02:04:03.000 I love people to just do what they want to do, mind their own business, have fun, have a great life regardless.

02:04:11.000 It's when you're sacrificing Especially our country and our abilities and...

02:04:18.000 Just for the virtue of someone being gay. 1.00

02:04:21.000 Just because they're gay. 1.00

02:04:22.000 Or someone being Asian or someone being whatever it is. 0.98

02:04:25.000 I love the gay people.

02:04:26.000 Me and Keith, we take Keith's boat out to Fire Island in the summer.

02:04:30.000 We go to Cherry Grove because Keith has a buddy that's a gay NYPD cop, retired.

02:04:36.000 And it is the funnest time. 0.81

02:04:38.000 Just gay dudes everywhere. 0.97

02:04:41.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:41.000 No one parties like gay dudes. 0.98

02:04:42.000 Gay dudes can party in fucking thongs. 1.00

02:04:46.000 They don't give a shit. 1.00

02:04:47.000 And it's so funny. 1.00

02:04:49.000 It's like, oh, do people think you're gay?

02:04:51.000 It's like, no.

02:04:53.000 No.

02:04:54.000 Maybe they do. 0.75

02:04:55.000 Dude, those gay guys are gorgeous. 0.99

02:04:58.000 There's some unfortunate looking gay fellas. 1.00

02:05:00.000 An old queen is like, that's the saddest thing ever, right? 1.00

02:05:05.000 Yeah.

02:05:05.000 An old queen.

02:05:06.000 Because it's almost like, because they had to make it through the period in the 70s and 80s with AIDS. So it's almost like you're looking at a nom vet that made it better than that.

02:05:16.000 Because you look like, how did you live?

02:05:19.000 But it's like, ah, he's old. 0.93

02:05:21.000 The gay lifestyle for dudes is a young man's game. 1.00

02:05:26.000 It is, right? 0.98

02:05:27.000 Or it's a sugar daddy game.

02:05:29.000 Yeah.

02:05:30.000 That's another thing. 1.00

02:05:31.000 If you have enough money to be a sugar daddy, you can have all the gay sex you want. 1.00

02:05:35.000 Wasn't that the Bryan Singer argument? 1.00

02:05:38.000 Wasn't that what he was allegedly doing?

02:05:41.000 They were accusing him of doing it?

02:05:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:43.000 Sugar daddies. 0.92

02:05:43.000 Well, there's that predatorial thing. 0.92

02:05:45.000 Like... 0.99

02:05:46.000 And I think gay people get a lot of flack for that, that they're perceived as these sexual predators of underage people. 0.98

02:05:53.000 Which is why people got mad at Milo. 0.97

02:05:55.000 It's a young person's... 0.99

02:05:57.000 Yeah, he just said, look, my, again, personal experience was this.

02:06:02.000 He was saying what he went through.

02:06:05.000 Well, he was saying, believe me, I was the predator.

02:06:07.000 I was the predator.

02:06:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:10.000 That's what he said.

02:06:11.000 When he was a young guy.

02:06:12.000 He was saying in the relationship that he had with the older guy.

02:06:14.000 With the older guy.

02:06:15.000 He was the one pursuing him. 1.00

02:06:17.000 Hey, whatever gets you through the fucking night. 0.99

02:06:19.000 I don't know if that's true or if it's just... 0.99

02:06:20.000 With him, you don't know how much of it is just theater, how much of he's just fucking around. 0.98

02:06:24.000 He really is a showman. 0.97

02:06:26.000 What is he doing now, though?

02:06:28.000 It's like he has to do stunts, like turn straight.

02:06:32.000 Now it's turning straight.

02:06:34.000 I talked to him a couple weeks ago.

02:06:37.000 He's in Florida. 0.99

02:06:38.000 He's opening up a fucking... 1.00

02:06:41.000 Like a clinic to make people not gay. 1.00

02:06:44.000 Oh, he's really doing this?

02:06:45.000 And I said, I asked him straight out, I go, Milo, is this a work?

02:06:49.000 What are you doing?

02:06:50.000 And he went through this whole thing where he said, no, he found some religion and he really does think that the gay lifestyle is such a bad thing and it's unhealthy.

02:07:02.000 So he went through all this stuff and again, who knows, you know?

02:07:07.000 Well, who knows what kind of damage has been done to him and to his psyche by being ostracized?

02:07:16.000 I asked him that, too.

02:07:18.000 I said, you know, a lot of times when people make these unbelievable reversals and changes in their lives, it's after this horrific experience where you might be depressed or...

02:07:30.000 Suicidal or something. 0.99

02:07:31.000 A lot of born-again Christians have to go through a lot of shit before they make that jump. 1.00

02:07:37.000 And I'm like, is this because, you know, you've been outcast? 1.00

02:07:41.000 You're fucking a scourge of society. 0.99

02:07:44.000 And, you know, you want to jump on something else, whether it's, I need to make money, so let me do this. 1.00

02:07:49.000 Or if it's genuinely like, maybe my life has fucked up my life, you know, and you have to fix it. 0.85

02:07:57.000 Well, it's all, like, what a drop-off.

02:07:59.000 The guy goes from being in the middle of the public conversation.

02:08:01.000 I mean, he was, they were constantly talking about him to all platforms removed from everything.

02:08:09.000 And that's over the period of just a couple of years.

02:08:12.000 One of the most unfair things that are going on these days.

02:08:15.000 And I hate the excuse, private company, they could do what they want.

02:08:19.000 It's like, no, you've given them too much power.

02:08:22.000 Private companies now have too much power.

02:08:24.000 Twitter is a great example because I've been booted from Twitter so many times.

02:08:30.000 And it's one of the most useful show prep tools I have.

02:08:33.000 So I have to make accounts.

02:08:36.000 And, you know, I've made a few accounts over the years after I've been booted.

02:08:40.000 What did you get booted for?

02:08:42.000 I've been booted for a few things.

02:08:44.000 I got booted for...

02:08:46.000 Usually it was being mean, name-calling. 1.00

02:08:48.000 Some girl was giving Jim Norton shit, and she was this bozo, red-haired, nose-ring girl. 1.00

02:08:56.000 And I said something like, she must have used her period blood to dye her hair. 1.00

02:09:02.000 Something like that.

02:09:03.000 And that was it.

02:09:04.000 Gone.

02:09:05.000 Gone.

02:09:06.000 Like that?

02:09:07.000 Out of everything?

02:09:08.000 Now I'm getting...

02:09:09.000 I have a finesse now where I know to say enough where now my fans pick up where it's going.

02:09:16.000 Well, that's what they worry.

02:09:17.000 That's called a dog whistle, Anthony.

02:09:18.000 It's a dog whistle.

02:09:19.000 Exactly.

02:09:20.000 I dog whistle a little bit.

02:09:22.000 But isn't it weird that you have to like...

02:09:24.000 You even have to.

02:09:26.000 But that was the thing that was happening.

02:09:28.000 There were so many aggressive conservative voices that were, in many people's eyes, meaner.

02:09:34.000 Put Trump in office.

02:09:35.000 I think so.

02:09:36.000 I think it was a huge part.

02:09:37.000 Yeah.

02:09:38.000 And that's one of the reasons why they decided, okay, we can't have this.

02:09:43.000 Right.

02:09:43.000 And so we're going to clean this up.

02:09:44.000 But the problem is you can't get woke enough.

02:09:47.000 And once they've cleaned it up in a certain department, they'll move left.

02:09:52.000 And then they'll keep moving left. 1.00

02:09:54.000 And next thing you know, either you're a socialist or you're a piece of shit. 1.00

02:09:57.000 Either you're a Marxist or you're a piece of shit. 1.00

02:09:59.000 And that's coming. 1.00

02:10:01.000 It comes for everybody, man.

02:10:03.000 It does.

02:10:03.000 Brett Weinstein had a thing that he was doing called Unity 2020, where he was trying to take...

02:10:10.000 Intelligent, rational voices from the left and the right, and put together a candidate that's sort of like a party, put together two candidates that meet in a rational center.

02:10:24.000 And to say, look, there's really reasonable people on the right and really reasonable people on the left, and if we got the two of them together, maybe we can kind of...

02:10:33.000 Deal with a lot of the issues that a lot of this country has.

02:10:36.000 They banned his Twitter account.

02:10:39.000 They banned Unity 2020. Because they felt like- Is that the very essence of- Exactly.

02:10:45.000 They felt like promoting a controversial third party was dangerous at this time where it was critical in their eyes that the Democrats take control again.

02:10:58.000 And so anything that was against this narrative of re-electing or electing a Democrat and getting Trump out of office, anything that can get in the way of that, like some Ross Perot-type monkey wrench, which is how Bill Clinton got in office.

02:11:13.000 Yes.

02:11:14.000 Right?

02:11:14.000 They don't want that to take votes away.

02:11:16.000 He's like, I'm explaining to you exactly what's going on with the Federal Reserve.

02:11:18.000 It's not even federal.

02:11:19.000 And you're like, what?

02:11:20.000 And remember...

02:11:21.000 He had that half-hour show.

02:11:22.000 He was so rich, he bought TV. It was before the internet.

02:11:27.000 And he told people, how are you getting fucked with your taxes? 0.92

02:11:30.000 And everybody's like, what? 0.96

02:11:31.000 And so he got so many votes that George H.W. never got a second term, and Clinton got into office.

02:11:37.000 Yeah, it split the Republican vote. 0.99

02:11:39.000 Yeah, so they're looking at it that way, like, look, we can't have any of this Unity 2020 shit. 1.00

02:11:44.000 Fuck Unity. 1.00

02:11:44.000 We have a mandate. 1.00

02:11:46.000 And that's where it's crazy, because there is no harassment.

02:11:50.000 There's no discrimination involved in this.

02:11:53.000 There's no negativity.

02:11:54.000 There's no meanness.

02:11:56.000 There's nothing awful.

02:11:57.000 There's nothing discriminatory.

02:11:59.000 All they're saying is, we think it would be better for everybody if we had rational people from both sides meet in the middle and find out what's best for the country.

02:12:08.000 They're like, too dangerous!

02:12:10.000 Can't have that.

02:12:11.000 They banned their Twitter account.

02:12:12.000 Yeah.

02:12:13.000 Well, that's what they're doing.

02:12:15.000 It's madness.

02:12:15.000 I was watching that clip of you and Chappelle, and you were talking about you can't be woke enough, and it was the SNL thing with Elon.

02:12:25.000 Yeah.

02:12:26.000 And you – I was like, yes, yes, when you said, this is – People don't understand how amazing Elon Musk is. 0.85

02:12:36.000 Like, this guy is a fucking treasure, and there's people that don't want to do a skit with him. 0.89

02:12:43.000 People who are... 0.98

02:12:44.000 I don't know how many of the cast members were actually complaining about it, but I do know that a lot of people that were fans...

02:12:52.000 What I was reading was fans were complaining about it, woke fans. 1.00

02:12:56.000 And I'm like, are you out of your fucking mind? 1.00

02:12:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:00.000 Do you understand what this meant?

02:13:01.000 First of all, there's nothing he does that's negative.

02:13:03.000 No.

02:13:04.000 You might say that him tweeting about selling Tesla public at 420, that might be.

02:13:11.000 But he's just being a fun guy on Twitter. 0.88

02:13:15.000 He's kind of crazy.

02:13:17.000 He is, which is genius. 0.98

02:13:18.000 That's part of being a genius.

02:13:20.000 And simultaneously running four spectacularly disruptive companies.

02:13:26.000 Yeah.

02:13:26.000 Like, he's putting rockets into space.

02:13:28.000 He's making the best electric cars.

02:13:30.000 He's making solar panels for your roof. 0.91

02:13:33.000 He's fucking boring tunnels under the earth. 1.00

02:13:36.000 But he said, fuck you to California. 1.00

02:13:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:39.000 And his people, you know, he wanted his factories to start working. 1.00

02:13:43.000 He came out here. 0.99

02:13:44.000 The fucking guy, yesterday, I just read... 1.00

02:13:48.000 The 10th Falcon 9 booster landed. 1.00

02:13:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:52.000 He used this thing 10 fucking times already to launch shit. 1.00

02:13:57.000 I remember as a kid, it was a big thing. 1.00

02:14:00.000 You'd be like, oh, they're going to launch something in three months.

02:14:03.000 This guy's sending rockets up on the daily.

02:14:06.000 Just like putting internet satellites.

02:14:09.000 He's got the sat-link thing going up.

02:14:12.000 Where he's putting these satellites up that will give the entire Earth high-speed internet.

02:14:18.000 And what?

02:14:20.000 He's not good enough for some goofy sketch?

02:14:22.000 He's not woke enough.

02:14:23.000 He's not woke enough.

02:14:26.000 I believe, and it's ironic that his company is Tesla, because I think since Nikolai Tesla, this is the next guy. 0.99

02:14:34.000 He is the most brilliant motherfucker that we have. 0.98

02:14:38.000 And we're lucky to have him in this country. 0.99

02:14:41.000 And people just can't see it.

02:14:43.000 They just don't see. 0.99

02:14:44.000 This guy is fucking brilliant. 0.99

02:14:46.000 That design. 0.99

02:14:48.000 When you watch those boosters land, dude, it's like a sci-fi movie.

02:14:52.000 You're like, this can't be.

02:14:53.000 And if he just did that...

02:14:55.000 Right.

02:14:56.000 Incredible.

02:14:56.000 If he just did that.

02:14:58.000 Just did that.

02:14:59.000 And then he's like, yeah, we've been taking cargo up.

02:15:01.000 Hey, I'm going to take people up.

02:15:03.000 First time, beautiful.

02:15:05.000 Second time, they bring the first people back. 0.88

02:15:08.000 The guys are sitting in a ship that, you know, it's not like Apollo where they're fucking like, eh. 0.87

02:15:13.000 They've got leg room. 0.99

02:15:14.000 There's fucking flat screens in front of them. 1.00

02:15:17.000 It's like they're fucking on JetBlue. 0.99

02:15:19.000 And these things work impeccably. 0.98

02:15:22.000 They're all autonomous, by the way.

02:15:24.000 And it's funny when they show the interior of the capsule.

02:15:28.000 You'll see the guy sitting, and they're pressing buttons on the flat screen, and all you see change are the camera angles.

02:15:34.000 Like, they're not going, oh, well, how much Delta V do we need to get up there?

02:15:38.000 It's all programmed.

02:15:40.000 The ship flies itself.

02:15:41.000 It docks itself. 0.97

02:15:42.000 You don't see fucking, you know, Michael Collins trying to dock with the lunar module and Buzz Aldrin. 1.00

02:15:50.000 That fucking ship knows what it's doing. 1.00

02:15:52.000 The technology... 1.00

02:15:54.000 That Elon Musk not only created but incorporated into space travel is making it like it was supposed to be.

02:16:02.000 Our vision of the future were these autonomous ships where you could just sit there and it will do the work for you. 0.97

02:16:09.000 And when they open that door and the guys in the space station are like, hey, they shake hands, you're like, that's the fucking future.

02:16:16.000 Now remove him from the picture and you have none of this. 0.98

02:16:20.000 None of it!

02:16:21.000 He is the common denominator with electric cars, with that, with boring tunnels under the earth to eliminate traffic problems.

02:16:28.000 Exactly.

02:16:29.000 Without Von Braun, you wouldn't have had the Apollo program.

02:16:32.000 You wouldn't have had the atom bomb.

02:16:34.000 And guess what?

02:16:35.000 If you just tell him, Elon, we really need you to fix this plastic in the ocean problem, like, hmm, plastic in the ocean, how do we get it out? 0.98

02:16:41.000 And next thing you know, he's fucking figuring that out.

02:16:43.000 It's like, we have a problem with too much carbon in the atmosphere. 0.99

02:16:47.000 Oh, it's sucking out of the atmosphere.

02:16:48.000 I can do that.

02:16:49.000 Build a filter.

02:16:50.000 Hold on.

02:16:51.000 Hold this. 0.99

02:16:52.000 Next thing you know, he's got a fucking gigantic filter sucking carbon out of the atmosphere. 1.00

02:16:57.000 He's such a weird dude. 0.99

02:17:01.000 Now, you obviously sat here because the picture is fucking famous of him smoking a joint. 0.97

02:17:08.000 Does he seem like... 0.99

02:17:10.000 He's an alien.

02:17:11.000 An alien, right?

02:17:12.000 He seems like an alien. 0.95

02:17:13.000 But for me, because I'm a chimp. 1.00

02:17:14.000 Isn't that fucked up? 0.99

02:17:15.000 When I'm talking to him, I'm like, huh. 1.00

02:17:17.000 Like, I'm for sure his dumbest friend. 1.00

02:17:19.000 There's no question. 1.00

02:17:21.000 There's no question. 1.00

02:17:23.000 Shit! 1.00

02:17:24.000 That's funny, man. 1.00

02:17:26.000 Yeah, he's one of those guys, one of those one in a million where you had, you know, Da Vinci and Tesla and all these people that advanced, had this...

02:17:38.000 You know, we advance as humans, technologically especially, and then we have these jumps.

02:17:44.000 And he's one of those people that inspired and was behind one of these big jumps technologically.

02:17:51.000 I never thought we'd have a chance of going to Mars.

02:17:56.000 Like, it always seemed like, alright, I know about the Apollo program and everything and the limitations of it from growing up.

02:18:02.000 I was very interested in the space program as a kid.

02:18:05.000 Still am now.

02:18:07.000 But he's the one that made you go, oh, alright, that makes sense.

02:18:11.000 Yeah, I guess we can at some point.

02:18:13.000 He's got these plans.

02:18:15.000 It's this weird, you know, talk about out-of-the-box thinking. 1.00

02:18:20.000 That fucker's brilliant. 0.99

02:18:21.000 Yeah, I always say that if evolution's a real thing, that guy's way ahead of us. 1.00

02:18:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:27.000 He's some new, different thing.

02:18:29.000 And that's what people are gonna be.

02:18:30.000 Well, not only that, I forgot about Neuralink.

02:18:32.000 When we were talking about reading each other's minds, one of the things he said to me the last podcast we did was like, you're gonna be able to talk without words.

02:18:40.000 I was like, what?

02:18:43.000 And that's what he's ultimately thinking, the progression of Neuralink, when he extrapolates, when he takes it from where it is now to what it's eventually going to be with innovation, time, and continued improvements and updates.

02:18:54.000 You're going to have the ability to communicate without words.

02:18:58.000 This is what I'm getting to where I think, and I don't want it to be that, but I think that that might be our savior.

02:19:05.000 That our savior might be something that conveys intent pure instead of like manipulative words and because what we're dealing with a lot today with a lot of problems that we have is people manipulating truth with narrative and words and the way they fuck with the truth That's gonna be eliminated if you can actually see how a person's perceiving and thinking about things and Interesting.

02:19:28.000 But wouldn't that take things like people's ability and talent of persuasion away?

02:19:33.000 Like, there's a...

02:19:35.000 You know, salespeople are very good at what they do because they know how to manipulate. 1.00

02:19:40.000 Right, but then when you're sitting there with some piece of shit that you shit in a box and some jackass is really smooth, talk to you into buying it, you're like, fuck! 1.00

02:19:47.000 Like Gary Glenn Ross. 1.00

02:19:48.000 He got me!

02:19:49.000 Right?

02:19:49.000 He got me!

02:19:50.000 Coffee's for closers!

02:19:52.000 But if you knew instantly...

02:19:54.000 Yeah.

02:19:55.000 Well, that's the problem with drug commercials, right? 0.99

02:19:57.000 When you see those drug commercials, you could be that girl spinning in a field of wheat all happy instead of just shitting your brains out all day. 0.98

02:20:05.000 Well, you could be that girl, right? 0.99

02:20:08.000 Ask your doctor about blah, blah, blah.

02:20:10.000 How many people end up like the positive image in those commercials and not the laundry list of side effects?

02:20:18.000 One of my favorite ones, it's for schizophrenia.

02:20:23.000 And I'm watching this commercial and I'm just laughing.

02:20:25.000 It's a woman, she gets out of her car and she looks over at a family walking to an ice cream truck thing or an ice cream stand in a park.

02:20:37.000 And she sees the ice cream guy, like, fiddling with the ice cream.

02:20:41.000 And then he takes a camera and just starts taking pictures of her.

02:20:44.000 And then it flashes back to him just giving a cone to the kid. 1.00

02:20:47.000 I'm like, holy fuck! 1.00

02:20:49.000 Is that happening with Seville? 1.00

02:20:50.000 It's such a weird commercial.

02:20:52.000 But she's pretty and put together.

02:20:54.000 And then she meets other schizophrenics and talks to them about it. 0.96

02:20:57.000 And then they're all sitting at a table in a restaurant eating, talking about this medication and how it helps.

02:21:02.000 And I'm sitting there thinking, are those other people really there? 0.99

02:21:05.000 Like, maybe she's just fucking rambling. 0.99

02:21:10.000 Alone. 1.00

02:21:10.000 Shit in her pants. 1.00

02:21:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:21:13.000 Oh, God. 0.99

02:21:14.000 Yeah, she's all fucking red. 1.00

02:21:15.000 She looks all pretty in the commercial, and then she's just a mess. 1.00

02:21:19.000 She's shitting herself. 0.99

02:21:20.000 Well, it's not the right solution, right? 0.95

02:21:21.000 The right solution is not like you watch a commercial, and now you have to talk to your doctor to deal with all your problems.

02:21:29.000 But this is what the problem with selling pharmaceutical interventions is.

02:21:33.000 You're selling it.

02:21:34.000 You've got music and imagery, and everything looks positive and amazing.

02:21:38.000 And we're one of only two countries in the whole world that allows that.

02:21:42.000 The only two countries...

02:21:43.000 Crazy, right?

02:21:44.000 The United States and New Zealand are the only countries that allow you to advertise drugs. 0.57

02:21:48.000 Yeah.

02:21:49.000 It's getting bad too because the...

02:21:51.000 The song Magic from Pilot came on the radio and I'm like, oh, oh, oh, authentic! 0.99

02:21:57.000 I don't even sing the fucking real words. 0.98

02:21:59.000 I'm singing the drug name. 0.99

02:22:01.000 What is authentic?

02:22:02.000 I don't know.

02:22:03.000 I just know the song.

02:22:04.000 No one knows what the drugs are by just that.

02:22:07.000 It's probably some arthritis thing. 0.99

02:22:08.000 And then Cyndi Lauper talking about her psoriasis and fucking... 1.00

02:22:12.000 I've been one year clear. 0.99

02:22:15.000 That's what Cyndi Lauper was saying? 0.99

02:22:16.000 Yeah.

02:22:17.000 She's doing drug commercials. 1.00

02:22:18.000 You know what apparently works really good for psoriasis?

02:22:20.000 The carnivore diet.

02:22:22.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:22:23.000 That's another thing.

02:22:23.000 My friend Chad Mendez, he is a fighter.

02:22:26.000 He fought for the UFC, and now he's got a hunting guide company, and he makes freeze-dried foods and shit. 0.95

02:22:33.000 Go to Chad Mendez's Instagram page. 0.90

02:22:36.000 This is really important for people, because if you have, and I'm not saying this is going to work for you, but he has pretty bad psoriasis.

02:22:42.000 It's been a real issue for Chad most of his life.

02:22:45.000 And he got on this carnivore diet, and within like four weeks, his psoriasis radically reduced itself.

02:22:52.000 Is there science behind it that you could say it's why?

02:22:54.000 It's elimination diet.

02:22:55.000 This is why. 0.97

02:22:56.000 Because whatever it is, I mean, the way elimination diets work is you try to find out what's fucking with you.

02:23:03.000 You may have some... 0.71

02:23:03.000 So this is what his leg used to look like. 0.71

02:23:05.000 Oh my god!

02:23:06.000 Right.

02:23:06.000 Now, but look, go further.

02:23:08.000 So this is...

02:23:09.000 He's showing before and after.

02:23:10.000 Now look at it now.

02:23:12.000 Oh, wow.

02:23:12.000 How incredible is that?

02:23:14.000 And that's just from...

02:23:15.000 Just from Carnivore Diet.

02:23:17.000 Carnivore Diet.

02:23:17.000 So it says here, okay guys, here's a little update to my psoriasis.

02:23:20.000 While on the Carnivore Diet, the first picks were taken when I started the diet in March 1st.

02:23:24.000 We're almost two months in, and this is what my legs currently look like.

02:23:27.000 The crazy thing is, I've been told by two different dermatologists that diet has no effect on psoriasis.

02:23:33.000 He says, I feel great and getting lean as well.

02:23:35.000 I wonder how I would have felt during my athletic career, anyone else having great success with this.

02:23:41.000 I know several people that have had issues with autoimmune diseases, like psoriasis, that have dealt with it through these elimination diets.

02:23:50.000 So, whatever it is that you're allergic to, for some people it just might be sugar, it might be grains, who knows what it is, but for him, knocking it all down to one thing where your body only processes one kind of food, which is mostly red meat, cured all that issue with him.

02:24:06.000 It's so weird because over the course of the years, we've only heard that that is dangerous.

02:24:12.000 Right.

02:24:12.000 Oh, it's cholesterol or, you know, whatever else you get.

02:24:15.000 Gout! 1.00

02:24:16.000 Do you know the whole conspiracy behind that?

02:24:18.000 Oh, this is amazing. 0.89

02:24:20.000 The sugar industry bribed scientists in the 1960s to lie and to fuck with their studies to show that it was saturated fat that was causing all these problems with obesity and heart disease instead of sugar. 0.68

02:24:36.000 So it was literally, and it wasn't even that much of a bribe. 0.61

02:24:39.000 They bribed these guys, but they gave them like $50,000. 0.92

02:24:42.000 And these guys come crazy. 0.89

02:24:43.000 That's a cheap bribe.

02:24:44.000 But this is like from the 1960s, and this was all in the New York Times.

02:24:47.000 They were detailing how this had happened, that they lied about fat, which is like, if you are a person that lives in like an indigenous tribe, fat is extremely valuable. 0.88

02:24:59.000 If you have a subsistence lifestyle- Fat is everything.

02:25:02.000 It's fuel.

02:25:03.000 It's important for brain function, for health.

02:25:06.000 That gives you energy.

02:25:07.000 There's a thing called rabbit starvation.

02:25:10.000 And it's like if you only eat lean meat with no fat, you'll literally starve.

02:25:15.000 It's terrible for you.

02:25:16.000 You need fat. 1.00

02:25:18.000 So this idea that saturated fat, like fat from animal products is bad for you, is fucking lies. 1.00

02:25:24.000 It's nonsense. 0.99

02:25:25.000 It has literally been the thing that people have been eating.

02:25:28.000 People, oh, red meat's bad for you.

02:25:29.000 Meat is bad for you.

02:25:30.000 Meat is what 95% of the world eats.

02:25:33.000 They've been eating it for the entire time.

02:25:35.000 People have been people.

02:25:37.000 In fact, there's a real argument that eating meat is what made people people.

02:25:41.000 Really?

02:25:42.000 Yeah, it's a real argument that the growth and doubling of the human brain size was directly coordinated with people learning how to cook meat and learning how to eat meat over fire, having more access to proteins, and then also the devious skills involved in hunting and chasing animals,

02:25:59.000 that we had to get smarter and more calculated.

02:26:01.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:26:02.000 That makes perfect sense.

02:26:03.000 What about the omnivore thing?

02:26:04.000 If it's not a deal where you're getting rid of psoriasis by just eating meat, is it healthier to just eat meat?

02:26:12.000 Or if you have some vegetables in there.

02:26:15.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with vegetables.

02:26:16.000 I eat vegetables.

02:26:17.000 I love vegetables.

02:26:18.000 I love salads.

02:26:19.000 And I don't have any health problems from doing it. 0.99

02:26:21.000 But I do notice that, for me at least, when I'm eating breads and pastas, I feel like shit. 0.99

02:26:27.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:26:28.000 But I love them. 1.00

02:26:29.000 I have a real fucking problem. 0.99

02:26:30.000 They're too goddamn good. 1.00

02:26:32.000 They're so good! 0.97

02:26:33.000 Lasagna, a nice lasagna.

02:26:35.000 Oh! 1.00

02:26:35.000 God, cheesy fucking pasta mess. 1.00

02:26:38.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:26:39.000 Big fucking noodles. 0.99

02:26:40.000 Oh, I love it. 1.00

02:26:41.000 I love it.

02:26:42.000 I love pasta.

02:26:43.000 It really is. 0.99

02:26:44.000 Sugars are apparently like the deadliest, most horrible thing you could fucking consume. 0.99

02:26:49.000 You're supposed to get sugar from an orange. 0.99

02:26:52.000 That's how you're supposed to get your sugar. 1.00

02:26:54.000 Because it's got fiber, and it's got vitamins, and it's supposed to be like a trick.

02:26:58.000 There's a trade-off in nature. 0.99

02:27:00.000 You eat the orange, you shit out the seeds, your shit fertilizes the seeds, the seeds grow more orange trees. 1.00

02:27:08.000 Circular life. 1.00

02:27:08.000 This is the deal that nature has made with animals. 1.00

02:27:12.000 That's why seeds, when these delicious fruits, are in the center, okay? 0.92

02:27:16.000 You're eating all this delicious food, and then you get to the seed, and a good percentage of it you shit out, and that is what grows trees. 0.95

02:27:24.000 It's a bargain. 0.93

02:27:26.000 It's like the apple's not going to grow itself with just the seed.

02:27:29.000 It needs some fertilizer, and it needs to be delicious in order for you to consume it.

02:27:33.000 It needs to be taken away ultimately.

02:27:35.000 Also, from the tree.

02:27:36.000 There's these cycles. 0.99

02:27:37.000 Why the fuck do bees pollinate plants? 0.99

02:27:40.000 Why do they do that? 0.99

02:27:40.000 How does that work? 0.99

02:27:41.000 I don't know, but they do.

02:27:42.000 There's a trick.

02:27:43.000 It's their job.

02:27:44.000 But this is like, it all works together.

02:27:46.000 There's this system that works together.

02:27:49.000 And that's how you're supposed to get your sugar. 0.98

02:27:51.000 You're supposed to get your sugar from these delicious sources that are actually good for you.

02:27:56.000 Right. 0.64

02:27:56.000 But then when you can get it from a spoon, and you can just spoon sugar into your fat face. 0.64

02:28:01.000 And it's addicting.

02:28:03.000 It's an addictive substance.

02:28:05.000 I mean, people get addicted to sweets and sugar.

02:28:09.000 Because it hijacks your reward system the same way video games hijack your reward system for solving puzzles and going out and dealing things. 0.99

02:28:18.000 And the same way a fucking action movie hijacks your reward systems for surviving and kicking ass. 1.00

02:28:24.000 It's fucked up, right? 1.00

02:28:25.000 Yeah! 1.00

02:28:25.000 Sugar hijacks. 1.00

02:28:27.000 All of your reward systems that think that you're supposed to get fat because you're trying to stave off a famine.

02:28:33.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:28:35.000 God, that's so fucked up. 1.00

02:28:36.000 It's weird. 1.00

02:28:37.000 But you look at what Chad did with just eating only meat, and it's pretty incredible.

02:28:42.000 And I'm not recommending that to everybody, but I know a lot of people that do it.

02:28:46.000 That's how they eat.

02:28:47.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.95

02:28:47.000 They're pretty fucking healthy. 0.95

02:28:48.000 Again, Jordan Peterson, I guess, and Michaela, his daughter, meat diet. 0.98

02:28:52.000 Yeah.

02:28:52.000 Well, she had an issue as well.

02:28:53.000 She had autoimmune disorders in terms of arthritis, like severe arthritis.

02:28:58.000 And she cured all of that with no medication by just eating meat. 0.90

02:29:03.000 So clearly, it's something about whether it's sugar or what are the other foods that she was eating was fucking with her body. 0.57

02:29:09.000 And it's unusual. 0.92

02:29:10.000 Like for most people, they're pretty fine with these things.

02:29:13.000 But here's the thing, not optimal.

02:29:16.000 That's the thing.

02:29:16.000 You're like, oh, you're fine with a balanced diet.

02:29:19.000 Are you fine?

02:29:19.000 But you're not optimal.

02:29:21.000 What's optimal?

02:29:22.000 What does that mean? 0.98

02:29:23.000 That means your liver and all these processes your body has to filter out shit are doing a good job. 1.00

02:29:30.000 But you're still putting shit in your body. 1.00

02:29:32.000 And you say, well, I'm fine with this shit in my body. 1.00

02:29:35.000 But are you? 1.00

02:29:36.000 You're not optimal.

02:29:39.000 I think it's quite amazing, especially in the United States, but worldwide if you think about it, but United States, that we have the capability of feeding 300 and what?

02:29:50.000 30 are we at?

02:29:51.000 Something like that?

02:29:52.000 I think 350 now.

02:29:52.000 A million people.

02:29:53.000 Is it 350?

02:29:54.000 350. Somewhere around there.

02:29:57.000 And, you know, we talk about hunger.

02:29:59.000 We talk about starvation and hunger and stuff. 0.99

02:30:02.000 But when you think about it, you're never driving down the road and you see a fucking vulture flying over a little kid that starved to death on the side of the road. 0.99

02:30:11.000 Right. 0.99

02:30:12.000 Everyone in this country has the ability to survive.

02:30:15.000 There's enough food in this country where people aren't starving to death.

02:30:20.000 Now, every time I say this, people say, well, there's hunger and people are not getting the nutrition.

02:30:25.000 I get it.

02:30:27.000 But we're not starving to death.

02:30:29.000 And to me, that's amazing.

02:30:33.000 And then you look at what it is.

02:30:35.000 I talk about the chicken holocaust that goes on on a daily basis. 1.00

02:30:41.000 How many fucking chickens have to die every day? 1.00

02:30:45.000 When you get wings... 1.00

02:30:47.000 And chicken legs for a party.

02:30:50.000 Every two of those is one chicken.

02:30:52.000 I know.

02:30:53.000 And you're there going like this.

02:30:55.000 Only every two.

02:30:55.000 That was a chicken.

02:30:57.000 And you might leave four or five of them because you'd be full.

02:30:59.000 And Super Bowl Sunday?

02:31:01.000 You think you're the only person with a stack of chicken?

02:31:04.000 How many of those?

02:31:05.000 And they gotta be somewhere. 1.00

02:31:06.000 They gotta be slaughtered. 1.00

02:31:07.000 They gotta be... 1.00

02:31:08.000 And then hatched and raised. 0.99

02:31:10.000 To me, that is one of the most amazing things in this country is how people are fed In such vast fucking numbers. 0.99

02:31:19.000 It is amazing. 0.97

02:31:20.000 Here's another amazing thing. 0.85

02:31:21.000 We've gotten so weird that our poor people are fat.

02:31:27.000 Right?

02:31:28.000 We talk about that all the time.

02:31:30.000 Wealthy people stay pretty lean.

02:31:31.000 Yeah.

02:31:31.000 Yeah, because they eat correct.

02:31:33.000 They're eating wise.

02:31:35.000 I often thought about what American refugees would look like because you watch refugees from all around the world.

02:31:44.000 You know, you got Kurds that have to move north because people are coming in and they're just emaciated and wearing rags and things. 1.00

02:31:51.000 And like if anything happened, God forbid, where Americans were refugees and had to flee to Canada or Mexico or something, it would be the fattest...

02:32:03.000 Line of refugees.

02:32:05.000 We have 70% of our people are obese.

02:32:07.000 Obese?

02:32:08.000 Yeah.

02:32:09.000 Isn't that the number?

02:32:09.000 Is that correct?

02:32:10.000 Fucking crazy! 1.00

02:32:12.000 What's that? 1.00

02:32:12.000 I think so. 1.00

02:32:13.000 I was just looking at the number of wings that people ate on Super Bowl Sunday.

02:32:16.000 Oh my god.

02:32:16.000 What is the number?

02:32:17.000 How many chickens?

02:32:18.000 It's up to, from the year before, but it's up to one and a half billion wings.

02:32:23.000 On Sunday?

02:32:23.000 On Super Bowl Sunday.

02:32:25.000 I'm going to say it's one day.

02:32:28.000 So it's one and a half.

02:32:30.000 So it's 750 million chickens on Sunday.

02:32:36.000 For one day.

02:32:38.000 So double the population of the whole country and chickens die in a day.

02:32:45.000 Where do you put them? 0.99

02:32:46.000 Like, I assume in the middle of the country somewhere, there are fucking barns just full of chickens for acres, for miles! 1.00

02:32:56.000 They are, and pigs too. 0.99

02:32:58.000 And that's not including pigs and cows and everything else that we need to eat.

02:33:04.000 When people say we gotta get rid of, like, cows, Oh, cows are causing climate change and the methane, whatever. 0.99

02:33:10.000 What are you fucking gonna replace that with? 0.97

02:33:12.000 Do you understand? 1.00

02:33:13.000 That's why people aren't starving is we become so efficient at fucking murdering animals and eating them. 1.00

02:33:20.000 That's horrific. 1.00

02:33:21.000 You can't just all of a sudden grow fucking Some kind of soy and feed everybody. 0.99

02:33:28.000 It's just not going to work. 0.98

02:33:29.000 Well, it's the business model that made cities, right?

02:33:31.000 Because these people aren't growing anything.

02:33:33.000 Right.

02:33:33.000 You live in Los Angeles.

02:33:35.000 No one's growing anything but weed.

02:33:36.000 Yeah.

02:33:36.000 You have this gigantic population of people, and there's no farms.

02:33:40.000 They don't even have their own fucking water, dude. 0.99

02:33:43.000 They don't have their own water. 1.00

02:33:43.000 Water is imperative. 1.00

02:33:45.000 It's air and then water.

02:33:47.000 How long you'll last without air and then water?

02:33:50.000 And it's like, they don't even have their own water source.

02:33:52.000 If some catastrophe happened... 0.99

02:33:55.000 All of fucking, at least Southern California, is just going to die of thirst. 0.99

02:34:00.000 Well, I had a bit about this when I was talking about putting people on Mars. 0.99

02:34:03.000 They were like, we're running out of water in California.

02:34:08.000 We have climate change. 1.00

02:34:09.000 We're right next to the fucking ocean. 1.00

02:34:11.000 Are you telling me it's easier to go to another planet than to suck the salt out of the water? 1.00

02:34:16.000 You got literally three quarters of the Earth is covered in fucking water. 1.00

02:34:21.000 Get the fucking salt out of the water and fix this. 1.00

02:34:25.000 This is the dumbest way to fix it ever. 1.00

02:34:27.000 We need to go to another planet! 1.00

02:34:29.000 Do we?

02:34:29.000 Do we really?

02:34:31.000 Look at all that fucking water! 1.00

02:34:32.000 And the sun can power the evaporation to desalinate water. 0.99

02:34:38.000 It's not like you need these complex...

02:34:40.000 The complex plants do it faster and at a bigger capacity.

02:34:44.000 But literally, the sun evaporating salt water will evaporate away and condense into fresh water.

02:34:52.000 So it's not something...

02:34:55.000 You know, that is unheard of in the science community.

02:34:58.000 But you can desalinate water pretty efficiently now.

02:35:01.000 And if they just kept innovating in that regard, I mean, think about the amount of money we spend on all kinds of things.

02:35:07.000 How about just foreign wars?

02:35:09.000 Just take a good percentage of that money that goes to the military-industrial complex and suck the salt out of the water. 0.99

02:35:15.000 Suck the salt out of the water. 0.94

02:35:16.000 We have so many problems solved. 0.99

02:35:18.000 California just today went into a state of drought.

02:35:22.000 There's drought in California, which to me is, I feel for you, my California friends, but it's hilarious because it rains here all the time and everything's so green.

02:35:31.000 It's so lush.

02:35:32.000 I love living here.

02:35:33.000 It's green.

02:35:34.000 It rains all the time.

02:35:35.000 It's green.

02:35:36.000 It's beautiful.

02:35:36.000 That's how it's supposed to be.

02:35:37.000 You're supposed to live in a place where it rains.

02:35:39.000 Are you loving living here instead of California?

02:35:41.000 I love it.

02:35:41.000 I love it here.

02:35:42.000 Since I've been here, I've been given 12 guns.

02:35:45.000 12. Given?

02:35:46.000 Given.

02:35:47.000 12 guns.

02:35:48.000 Welcome to Texas.

02:35:49.000 Here's a gun.

02:35:50.000 Dude, my house is in contract. 0.99

02:35:52.000 I just fucking signed the contract. 0.98

02:35:55.000 I'm waiting for the people to get there. 1.00

02:35:57.000 I'm going to South fucking Carolina. 0.99

02:35:58.000 South Carolina's a good spot. 1.00

02:35:59.000 Another great gun state. 0.51

02:36:03.000 And, you know...

02:36:05.000 Nice people, too.

02:36:06.000 The taxes in New York.

02:36:08.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:36:08.000 And I hear about Austin a lot when people go, these motherfuckers are coming from California. 1.00

02:36:13.000 Fucking Rogan's gonna vote for these fuckers! 1.00

02:36:17.000 And they're getting pissed that these traditionally red states are gonna turn blue. 1.00

02:36:23.000 New York is one of those places, though.

02:36:25.000 Between Cuomo and de Blasio, the mayor of New York City...

02:36:32.000 DeBlasio is the worst mayor in the history of mayors.

02:36:35.000 In the history of mayors. 1.00

02:36:37.000 This guy is running a city that is just fucked with crime, unemployment. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Shit is shut down. 1.00

02:36:46.000 I don't know when they think they're going to shut this COVID shutdown switch off and everything opens back up. 1.00

02:36:51.000 Every day I walk from Penn Station to 34th Street to my studio on 35th Street.

02:36:57.000 It's one block. 1.00

02:36:59.000 The horrors I witness in a one block walk, people shitting on the sidewalk, heroin addicts are just hunched over doing that fucking rock thing. 0.99

02:37:09.000 How much has it changed in the last year? 0.99

02:37:11.000 Huge, dude.

02:37:12.000 Huge.

02:37:14.000 Like, we were living in a city that had it together.

02:37:17.000 The police were doing their jobs. 1.00

02:37:19.000 Now the cops don't even want to fuck around. 0.99

02:37:20.000 Because they don't want to get... 0.99

02:37:21.000 They don't want...

02:37:22.000 Everything they do is a potential...

02:37:24.000 Not even...

02:37:25.000 You know, when you're a cop, you talk to a lot of cops, they sign on to know they're going to be shot at at some point.

02:37:31.000 And they're okay with that.

02:37:33.000 They're literally okay with people shooting at them.

02:37:36.000 What they didn't sign up for is spending the rest of their life in prison.

02:37:40.000 Yeah, and there's civil lawsuits now, too.

02:37:43.000 That's the thing.

02:37:43.000 Civil lawsuits.

02:37:44.000 They've taken away their protection.

02:37:46.000 So now any person that is interacting with the cop can now sue them personally.

02:37:53.000 Always the city would get sued.

02:37:54.000 Oh, this cop did this to me.

02:37:55.000 And they'd settle out for a million bucks and, you know, that would end it.

02:38:01.000 But now they could go after the cop.

02:38:03.000 So you're destroying these people's lives.

02:38:06.000 They're accused of atrocities that rarely happen.

02:38:11.000 And it's a shame because people go, well, just go to court and that destroys your life.

02:38:16.000 People think court is like an episode of Perry Mason, an hour and you're done.

02:38:20.000 Like the idea of getting a lawyer, the time it takes to go to court every day for months, sometimes years, depending on what it is, it destroys your life.

02:38:34.000 And again, like I said, they sign on for these dangers that they knew was part of the job.

02:38:40.000 But this has just gotten to the point where these cops are going, I ain't leaving the precinct.

02:38:45.000 If a call comes in, I'll five mile an hour it and clean up the mess after. 0.94

02:38:50.000 Why would I bother injecting myself in a situation that I know is like fucking Rathacon Kobayashi Maru? 0.95

02:38:58.000 There's the no-win scenario. 0.99

02:39:00.000 You're going in there.

02:39:02.000 And anything you do is going to affect you negatively.

02:39:06.000 Now, there's two different people that are running for mayor now, right?

02:39:10.000 That are in the forefront.

02:39:12.000 You got Andrew Yang, and then there's that other guy.

02:39:14.000 Yang, yeah, the black dude, the cop.

02:39:16.000 The guy who carries.

02:39:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:39:17.000 Carries a gun, pro-police.

02:39:19.000 What was his previous job?

02:39:21.000 He was a cop in New York City, yeah.

02:39:24.000 And he is a guy that wants to clean things up. 0.99

02:39:27.000 Yeah, he's tired of the crime, he's tired of the fucking... 0.99

02:39:29.000 What is his name? 1.00

02:39:31.000 I can't remember his goddamn name. 0.99

02:39:32.000 I'm sure your producer will kick that up real quick. 0.99

02:39:34.000 Jamie will find it.

02:39:35.000 But this guy is becoming increasingly popular because a lot of people are agreeing with him.

02:39:39.000 They're tired of it.

02:39:40.000 Here's the thing with New York, though, too.

02:39:42.000 This guy's a Democrat.

02:39:43.000 Oh, there's a debate tonight?

02:39:44.000 Eric Adams.

02:39:45.000 Eric Adams.

02:39:46.000 He's a Democrat, but you'll never get another Republican mayor.

02:39:51.000 Giuliani was it. 0.99

02:39:52.000 New York is so fucked with people that have come in and just can't get it out of their head that they need a Democratic... 0.99

02:40:02.000 Can't there be a pro-police Democrat? 1.00

02:40:05.000 Well, that's him.

02:40:06.000 So that's what you need.

02:40:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:07.000 He's got a good chance.

02:40:09.000 A law and order, keep it together, let's clean up the streets, Democrat. 0.87

02:40:14.000 Exactly.

02:40:15.000 Yeah.

02:40:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:15.000 I think he's that guy.

02:40:17.000 And you're going to get the fuck out of there. 1.00

02:40:18.000 I'm out. 1.00

02:40:19.000 I am fucking done. 0.99

02:40:21.000 I'm done. 0.99

02:40:21.000 Dude, the taxes I pay out on Long Island... 0.99

02:40:25.000 Are insane.

02:40:26.000 And for nothing. 1.00

02:40:27.000 If I fucking drove my car out and had to back onto a golden street and every stop sign, a fucking beautiful girl would suck my dick and I would be like, all right, I see why the taxes are so high. 1.00

02:40:42.000 What is the taxes at now? 1.00

02:40:43.000 You're getting nothing.

02:40:44.000 Between my school taxes, because even if you don't have kids, you've got to pay your school tax.

02:40:50.000 And my property tax.

02:40:51.000 Mine is $65,000 a year I pay in property taxes in Roslyn, Long Island.

02:40:59.000 What is the percentage of your income you have to pay when you live in New York State between...

02:41:04.000 Oh, now?

02:41:08.000 Well, just income tax?

02:41:10.000 Yeah.

02:41:10.000 And if you make more money, you pay more, right?

02:41:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:41:13.000 Isn't this a situation where I think someone said that the top 1% of earners in New York City pay 50% of the taxes?

02:41:19.000 Yeah. 0.76

02:41:19.000 And then Trump fucked us by not letting us deduct our state income tax from our federal. 0.76

02:41:26.000 So you used to be able to take your state income tax and write it off when you filed your federal. 0.96

02:41:32.000 You bring your taxable income down because you gave that to the New York State.

02:41:36.000 Right.

02:41:36.000 Now, there's a number.

02:41:38.000 Once you hit that number, all the rest is part of your fucking income. 0.99

02:41:41.000 So they just figure, look, you're a guy who's a go-getter. 0.99

02:41:44.000 You're going to keep go-getting. 1.00

02:41:45.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:41:46.000 Pay me. 1.00

02:41:47.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:41:48.000 Pay me. 1.00

02:41:48.000 And now they're trying something because they know everyone's leaving. 1.00

02:41:51.000 A lot of people are going to Florida.

02:41:53.000 Where they're trying to get some kind of a retroactive tax that will be enacted for a couple of years even after you leave.

02:42:00.000 You'll still have to pay New York.

02:42:02.000 California proposed that too.

02:42:03.000 Ten years. 0.99

02:42:04.000 It's like, how the fuck? 0.99

02:42:06.000 First of all, it's like, remember pay phones in the old days when the phone would ring when you're done and they go, please deposit 25 cents for the last three minutes. 1.00

02:42:14.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:42:15.000 No one put that in. 1.00

02:42:16.000 It would ring.

02:42:17.000 Remember that?

02:42:17.000 It would ring.

02:42:18.000 You're like, who's this?

02:42:19.000 Please deposit? 1.00

02:42:20.000 Fuck off! 1.00

02:42:22.000 That's how I'm treating New York State. 1.00

02:42:24.000 If they ask me for a dime, come down to South Carolina and get me.

02:42:28.000 Well, it's got to be unconstitutional, isn't it?

02:42:30.000 It must be.

02:42:31.000 It's got to be.

02:42:32.000 It has to be.

02:42:32.000 It's got to be.

02:42:33.000 The revolution started for a lot less.

02:42:35.000 Now, do you wonder if you're in South Carolina about getting guests?

02:42:40.000 Is it more difficult to get guests?

02:42:41.000 The thing COVID has done has made Zoom guests a lot more acceptable than it used to be. 0.99

02:42:48.000 I used to sit there and go like, oh, motherfucker. 0.99

02:42:50.000 Are they coming in live or is it Zoom? 1.00

02:42:51.000 Oh, it's Zoom. 1.00

02:42:52.000 I'd be like, ah, fuck. 0.99

02:42:53.000 Now, it's kind of become a thing that people don't really mind as much. 0.99

02:42:58.000 Also, I'm keeping a small place up in New York and I'm keeping the studio.

02:43:03.000 So if I have a guest that can only make it in New York and it's a good guest that I want, I'll just fly up and do it from the studios up there.

02:43:10.000 It's probably a quick flight too, right?

02:43:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:11.000 It's three hours, so it's nothing.

02:43:12.000 I'll just stay overnight, hang out, you know, make sure they're all fucking working up there. 0.98

02:43:16.000 Maybe bang a few of them out there. 0.99

02:43:18.000 Right.

02:43:19.000 And you still, Compound Media is like you have a network.

02:43:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:24.000 Right?

02:43:25.000 And how many shows do you have?

02:43:26.000 I have about eight shows now. 0.99

02:43:28.000 Is that a pain in the ass? 0.99

02:43:30.000 It can be at times. 0.99

02:43:32.000 I have some really funny shows on there.

02:43:37.000 Aaron Berg and Gino Bisconti do In Hot Water.

02:43:41.000 They're like our midday show. 1.00

02:43:44.000 And I listen to them and I go like, oh, fuck. 1.00

02:43:50.000 Oh, no, that's bad. 1.00

02:43:52.000 Oh no, don't say that.

02:43:53.000 Don't do that.

02:43:54.000 They get me to go like, uh-oh.

02:43:56.000 I'll read on Twitter. 0.99

02:43:58.000 I'll be like, oh fuck, what is Aaron and Gino doing? 0.99

02:44:01.000 And I'll be like, oh no, what are they doing? 1.00

02:44:04.000 And like, I don't know, they're showing gay scat porn or something one day. 0.99

02:44:09.000 They're showing it? 1.00

02:44:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:44:10.000 You can do that?

02:44:11.000 Well, I guess you can, right? 1.00

02:44:12.000 Do whatever the fuck I want. 0.98

02:44:13.000 It's a private platform. 0.99

02:44:14.000 It's a private platform.

02:44:16.000 That's why I have it this way.

02:44:18.000 I knew damn well if I just opened it up, I'd end up like, you know, even Crowder.

02:44:23.000 He's got deplatformed.

02:44:25.000 Everyone gets deplatformed. 0.99

02:44:26.000 For some reason, when you're behind a paywall, They just don't fuck with you as much. 0.96

02:44:31.000 Well, what could they do? 0.97

02:44:32.000 What could they do to you at this point?

02:44:34.000 The only thing that could really be done is way down the line. 0.96

02:44:38.000 Someone down the line that owns the fucking insulators on the telephone poles will say, I don't want his voice going around my insulator. 0.95

02:44:47.000 It could be an issue with the internet provider. 1.00

02:44:50.000 Yeah, it's always shit like that. 0.98

02:44:51.000 But again, they understand the pay platform part of it. 0.99

02:44:55.000 They take that into consideration that we're not just popping this out for anyone to see.

02:45:00.000 You paid for it.

02:45:01.000 You want to see it.

02:45:02.000 And how much do they pay?

02:45:04.000 How much does it cost to join Compound Media?

02:45:08.000 Oh, it's $9.95 for a month, but it's like $8 for the year.

02:45:15.000 We have a discount like that.

02:45:17.000 Oh, nice.

02:45:17.000 But there's a fuckload of shows.

02:45:19.000 We have all of the shows archived, so you could see shit when Artie Lang was my co-host. 0.98

02:45:26.000 Oh, that's right. 0.97

02:45:27.000 Which is insane.

02:45:27.000 The Artie and Anthony show lasted for nine months.

02:45:30.000 Holy shit. 0.98

02:45:31.000 That was when Artie was in the... 0.98

02:45:32.000 How is he now?

02:45:33.000 Because he's been MIA. He's been MIA because he's down in Florida.

02:45:38.000 I heard he's living with his mom, who is...

02:45:40.000 Like, they are keeping him clean.

02:45:42.000 I mean...

02:45:43.000 What is he doing in Florida?

02:45:44.000 Pissing in a cup every week to make sure he's not doing drugs.

02:45:48.000 I think he's on some kind of a...

02:45:51.000 Conditional release from the last trouble he had where he has to stay clean.

02:45:56.000 But why is he not performing or doing something?

02:45:59.000 Dude, it's the worst thing he could do.

02:46:01.000 He's so good.

02:46:02.000 That was the problem. 0.99

02:46:03.000 He got out of rehab, so many rehabs, and he would go right back to the stage and, you know, people are here, fucking take something for you. 0.99

02:46:15.000 You're going to the worst place. 0.98

02:46:18.000 Comedy clubs, you're Artie Lang in a comedy club. 1.00

02:46:22.000 It's the worst fucking scenario. 0.99

02:46:24.000 I get that, but he's such a treasure. 0.99

02:46:27.000 Dude, I know.

02:46:27.000 He did my podcast when he was super clean.

02:46:30.000 He was clean and healthy.

02:46:31.000 He'd been clean for over a year, and he was amazing. 0.99

02:46:33.000 He's one of the funniest motherfuckers you'll ever sit down and bullshit with. 0.99

02:46:37.000 It was an amazing show. 0.99

02:46:38.000 It was so fun.

02:46:39.000 It was so funny.

02:46:40.000 It was just like, I'm not going to make it in today.

02:46:42.000 He wouldn't even say that.

02:46:43.000 He just wouldn't show up.

02:46:45.000 He used to have a hotel.

02:46:48.000 He'd get a hotel room close to the studio at a hotel that's no longer there.

02:46:53.000 And the hotel owner came to Keith, who was running Compact Media for a while, and said, we can't have him in here anymore.

02:47:02.000 And it's like, well, what happened?

02:47:04.000 He goes...

02:47:07.000 The maid walked in.

02:47:08.000 There was blood all over the room, like everywhere.

02:47:12.000 It looked like a murder scene.

02:47:13.000 I guess his nose was bleeding and stuff.

02:47:15.000 Oh, God.

02:47:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:17.000 He was a mess.

02:47:19.000 I mean, God bless him. 1.00

02:47:20.000 I really do think and I hope that he continues with his sobriety because he's a funny motherfucker. 0.99

02:47:27.000 He would be on trashed. 1.00

02:47:29.000 And still be the funniest fucking guy in the room. 1.00

02:47:31.000 Oh, he's brilliant. 0.99

02:47:32.000 Yeah.

02:47:32.000 He's always been brilliant.

02:47:33.000 And he's always been a sweetheart of a guy. 0.99

02:47:35.000 The nicest fucking guy. 0.99

02:47:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:47:37.000 And yeah, it's just that old demon. 1.00

02:47:41.000 He's got that demon.

02:47:42.000 As they call it.

02:47:43.000 That demon has got a deep root. 0.90

02:47:44.000 Entrenched in him. 0.76

02:47:46.000 It's deep.

02:47:46.000 There's no way he could just casually be around it or anything he needs.

02:47:52.000 And the fucked up thing about being in comedy is you're in a bar. 0.97

02:47:56.000 You're in a club. 0.98

02:47:57.000 You're around people that are doing drugs and stuff.

02:48:01.000 I mean, some of the most successful people that have recovered or in recovery are people that have just cut themselves off from that whole life.

02:48:09.000 They never again walk into a bar.

02:48:11.000 Maybe not never again, but years maybe.

02:48:13.000 And still they're like, eh.

02:48:15.000 But when that's your life is walking into a place where people are literally staring at you drinking, it's got to be terrible.

02:48:24.000 Yeah, it's a really difficult temptation to avoid.

02:48:27.000 But that's what I always said about people that are addicted to food.

02:48:30.000 Imagine, because you have to eat to live.

02:48:32.000 You have to eat.

02:48:32.000 So you have to think about how to manage your addiction while you're also sustaining yourself through the very thing that you're addicted to.

02:48:40.000 Yeah, because with alcohol and drugs, it's one of those things where, well, I just won't do it ever again.

02:48:46.000 And you can.

02:48:47.000 With food, it's like, well, I gotta do it, I just can't do as much.

02:48:51.000 And that doesn't work with drugs or alcohol the second you're right back where you were.

02:48:56.000 I just think it sucks that he's not doing something.

02:48:59.000 A podcast or something.

02:49:01.000 I did his last podcast up here when he was clean the last time.

02:49:07.000 And it was awesome. 0.98

02:49:09.000 He was funny as fuck. 0.99

02:49:10.000 We had a great time. 1.00

02:49:11.000 It was a two-parter, actually.

02:49:13.000 We went a couple of hours.

02:49:15.000 And that was it.

02:49:16.000 He disappeared after that.

02:49:18.000 I'm like, what happened? 0.99

02:49:19.000 He was doing so well and shit. 0.97

02:49:22.000 Well, during the pandemic, I remember reaching out to some friends like, hey, I just got a weird feeling. 0.96

02:49:27.000 I haven't heard from Artie.

02:49:29.000 Has anybody heard from Artie?

02:49:30.000 Because I haven't seen him anywhere.

02:49:32.000 And I thought that was just strange.

02:49:34.000 So I reached out to some of my friends from New York and they were like, yeah, he's just laying low.

02:49:38.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:49:39.000 It's fucked up. 0.98

02:49:40.000 Yeah, there are a couple of the comics that are very close with him, and you could get some updates. 0.99

02:49:46.000 But it's like, you don't want to babysit him either, right?

02:49:48.000 You don't want to babysit him.

02:49:49.000 They've done it before.

02:49:51.000 I've had conversations.

02:49:51.000 When Artie came on board my show...

02:49:55.000 I went to the comedy cellar when the news broke that it was going to be the Artie and Anthony show.

02:50:01.000 And David Tell is on the stairs by the cellar smoking a cigarette.

02:50:06.000 And he goes, oh, Artie's on your show, huh?

02:50:11.000 I'm like, yeah, yeah.

02:50:12.000 He goes, ah, welcome to the wonderful world of Artie.

02:50:15.000 The Midnight Calls. 1.00

02:50:17.000 The fucking show. 1.00

02:50:18.000 Remember when DiPaolo and Artie had a show? 1.00

02:50:21.000 Yes, yeah.

02:50:21.000 Like a regular radio show.

02:50:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:50:23.000 Nick and Artie.

02:50:25.000 And it was funny, but...

02:50:27.000 And Nick had the conversation with me, too.

02:50:29.000 He's like...

02:50:31.000 Good luck!

02:50:32.000 Yeah, they're very different personalities.

02:50:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:50:36.000 I do.

02:50:36.000 Nick comes on my show every Monday.

02:50:38.000 He does a show with me every Monday.

02:50:40.000 Just two angry guineas yelling about the world.

02:50:43.000 I just think it's sad.

02:50:44.000 Shaking our fists.

02:50:45.000 It's sad that Artie's not doing something.

02:50:47.000 Because people love the guy.

02:50:49.000 They do love him. 0.99

02:50:50.000 And that's the fucked up thing. 0.99

02:50:52.000 It's like... 0.98

02:50:53.000 I've known so many people that have had issues with drugs and alcohol and whatnot in my life.

02:50:59.000 And you give them some time.

02:51:01.000 If they don't come around, you pretty much disown them. 1.00

02:51:04.000 And they usually pull such asshole moves and they're liars and what have you. 1.00

02:51:11.000 Artie's loved. 1.00

02:51:12.000 With everything that has happened, everyone still loves this fucking guy. 1.00

02:51:17.000 For sure. 1.00

02:51:17.000 That's why it really does hurt when you're like, ah, fuck, man, I want to see him do well. 1.00

02:51:21.000 And I want to see him on stage. 0.99

02:51:23.000 I love watching Artie perform. 0.99

02:51:26.000 He's one of the quickest motherfuckers. 0.98

02:51:28.000 Some of those Stern tapes where he is just railing on somebody, there's no one better. 0.99

02:51:34.000 It's so funny, man.

02:51:36.000 No, he's a genius.

02:51:37.000 He's just...

02:51:37.000 I don't know what's the path to be able to perform again.

02:51:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:51:43.000 Where you're not going to be tempted and where he's healthy enough and strong enough that he knows he's on a good path.

02:51:50.000 Yeah.

02:51:50.000 Yeah, it's very hard.

02:51:52.000 Already I know and knew and was on my show.

02:51:57.000 Unfortunately, if I'm going to be honest, I can't picture that guy being able to be well and be that.

02:52:04.000 But hopefully...

02:52:06.000 The Artie I haven't seen in the past couple of years now has worked his way into being that person that can do that.

02:52:12.000 So when he was on your show, it was before his nose had caved in?

02:52:15.000 It was during.

02:52:16.000 It was during.

02:52:17.000 Oh, wow.

02:52:18.000 I watched it happen like a car wreck.

02:52:21.000 When you came in, his nose was enormous and caked with blood.

02:52:25.000 What were you thinking?

02:52:27.000 It was actually so funny. 0.99

02:52:29.000 There was some funny shit that happened. 0.99

02:52:31.000 I had Rich Voss on the show one day with Artie, and we're fucking bullshitting and laughing. 0.99

02:52:36.000 And Artie's nose just started, a trickle of blood started coming out. 0.91

02:52:41.000 And I see Voss looking over at him, doing the thing where he's like, Like that.

02:52:48.000 And I'm like, Rich, we all see it.

02:52:50.000 This isn't wipe a couple of grains of coke away from your nose because you just come out of the bathroom.

02:52:56.000 Everyone knows Artie's nose is bleeding.

02:52:58.000 Like, oh, is that it?

02:53:00.000 Yeah, look, look. 0.99

02:53:01.000 I think that's where he fucking starts doing it. 0.99

02:53:04.000 Yeah! 0.99

02:53:05.000 Oh, God!

02:53:07.000 Poor Artie.

02:53:08.000 He goes, I know, I'm like...

02:53:09.000 And Voss is clean.

02:53:10.000 Yeah, yeah, Voss is...

02:53:12.000 So odd.

02:53:12.000 He'll let you know he's clean.

02:53:14.000 He'll let you know how long...

02:53:15.000 That green screen is such a great move.

02:53:18.000 Yeah, it works because we have so many different shows, is what it is.

02:53:22.000 So we're able to put a different background for every show, and that's kind of why I did it.

02:53:27.000 Once I go down to South Carolina, they're still going to use the green screen up here, but I'm going to have a regular studio built that has a dedicated background.

02:53:35.000 How did you pick South Carolina?

02:53:37.000 Why'd you pick that place?

02:53:39.000 It worked out.

02:53:40.000 It wasn't Florida.

02:53:41.000 I didn't want to go to Florida.

02:53:42.000 How come?

02:53:44.000 Florida has, I don't know, just a rep.

02:53:49.000 Florida's a little weird, man.

02:53:52.000 It was south... 1.00

02:53:54.000 If I'm going to move somewhere, I'm going to move somewhere where there's no fucking blizzards and shit. 0.99

02:53:59.000 I'm going to move inland a little so there's no hurricanes. 0.99

02:54:02.000 I don't have to worry about my house floating away.

02:54:04.000 The gun laws are great.

02:54:06.000 The taxes are low. 0.99

02:54:07.000 I could get a fucking legit compound. 0.99

02:54:10.000 It just worked out. 0.99

02:54:13.000 Did you scout it out?

02:54:16.000 Go up there.

02:54:16.000 I told my family that I'm going down there, and my sister, who is nothing like me and my brother, she is Dawn.

02:54:26.000 She is fucking mismotivation. 0.99

02:54:28.000 She's always had great jobs. 0.99

02:54:31.000 She's supervisors at the companies she works at.

02:54:34.000 She gets recruited from people where she's got to leave one job to go to a better one and that. 0.54

02:54:39.000 And she goes, ah, South Carolina.

02:54:41.000 Bam! 0.98

02:54:41.000 Boom! 0.98

02:54:42.000 Bing! 0.98

02:54:42.000 Bomb! 0.98

02:54:42.000 She's fucking down there. 0.98

02:54:44.000 Sold her house. 1.00

02:54:45.000 Bought a house.

02:54:46.000 Bought an apartment that she's now doing Airbnb with.

02:54:50.000 Had a job waiting for her down there with the company that she was with. 1.00

02:54:54.000 Her kid is now going to school without a fucking mask. 0.99

02:54:58.000 She goes, this is great. 1.00

02:54:59.000 Myrtle Beach is where she went.

02:55:01.000 I don't want to go to Myrtle Beach.

02:55:02.000 But that's more her style.

02:55:04.000 So after my house is sold, go down there.

02:55:07.000 What's wrong with Myrtle Beach?

02:55:08.000 Visit her.

02:55:08.000 I don't know.

02:55:09.000 It's a little too touristy.

02:55:11.000 I need somewhere where I don't want to have to go too far before I can just start firing guns.

02:55:17.000 I need some woods.

02:55:19.000 Did you get some land?

02:55:21.000 I'm gonna.

02:55:22.000 I'm gonna.

02:55:22.000 I haven't even scouted out where I want to go yet.

02:55:25.000 I'm gonna get a realtor.

02:55:27.000 Scout out some areas and tell them what I'm looking for.

02:55:30.000 Don't you want to make sure that you like the area?

02:55:33.000 Like the people and get along with them?

02:55:36.000 I don't really like the people I'm with now.

02:55:39.000 I live in Roslyn.

02:55:42.000 I don't really cohort with my neighbors. 0.93

02:55:44.000 They've seen enough, you know, police cars and fucking media in front of my door where I don't think they're fond of me either. 0.93

02:55:52.000 Oh, that's hilarious. 0.96

02:55:53.000 But there's a couple of neighbors that were pretty cool.

02:55:55.000 One of my neighbors on the right hand side was pretty decent.

02:55:59.000 But the cops would constantly, years ago, that house was just party central about 10 years ago.

02:56:06.000 And the Nassau County cops would pull up all the time when I'd have parties in the back.

02:56:11.000 Anthony!

02:56:12.000 Hey, what's up?

02:56:13.000 You gotta turn it down.

02:56:14.000 Well, you've always been real pro-cop.

02:56:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:56:17.000 They know. 1.00

02:56:18.000 They fuck it. 1.00

02:56:18.000 They're awesome. 1.00

02:56:19.000 And they go, yeah, we got a complaint.

02:56:22.000 We drove around with the windows down, and we did hear it, so if you could turn it down.

02:56:25.000 And the girls, topless, naked girls, would come out of the pools and grab the cops and be like, hi, what are you doing? 1.00

02:56:32.000 And they're like laughing their asses off.

02:56:34.000 So every progressive instance of a noise complaint...

02:56:39.000 Another car shows up.

02:56:41.000 By the end, there were literally like five cars and ten cops would come in the back.

02:56:46.000 Hey, what's up, guys?

02:56:48.000 Naked girls. 1.00

02:56:49.000 They loved it. 1.00

02:56:50.000 They fucking loved it. 0.99

02:56:52.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

02:56:53.000 Yeah.

02:56:53.000 And they just wanted to come back.

02:56:56.000 Reminds me of the scene in John Wick when the cop shows up.

02:56:59.000 Noise complaint?

02:56:59.000 Yeah, noise complaint.

02:57:01.000 He looks in.

02:57:01.000 He goes, you working again, John?

02:57:02.000 Yeah.

02:57:03.000 Dead body in the house.

02:57:04.000 You working again?

02:57:06.000 Yeah, that house was great.

02:57:08.000 It's weird when you sell a house because there's a nostalgia to it.

02:57:12.000 I imagine people that are fans would want to buy it.

02:57:15.000 Yeah, I think there was actually a couple of people.

02:57:18.000 Did you let people know?

02:57:19.000 Nah, I didn't really.

02:57:20.000 I let the realtor do the work.

02:57:22.000 It's tricky.

02:57:23.000 I don't want people coming in and out.

02:57:24.000 Because you did a lot of upgrades to that house.

02:57:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:57:27.000 The whole backyard was just flat now.

02:57:29.000 It's, you know, like a resort.

02:57:31.000 And then the basement was a cement basement. 0.92

02:57:34.000 I put a movie theater in and a studio, legit fucking studio that I would do a compound, a karaoke stage, full bar. 0.88

02:57:42.000 Yeah, it's just everyone. 0.92

02:57:43.000 I had parties there for everything.

02:57:45.000 New Year's Eve, Labor Day, Memorial Day, Fourth of July.

02:57:48.000 My family and friends would come over. 0.99

02:57:50.000 Just a great fucking time. 0.99

02:57:52.000 But there were also just horrific times in that house that I'm just like, oh, God. 0.99

02:57:58.000 Enough.

02:57:58.000 Start scratch.

02:57:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:58:00.000 The rose-colored lenses sort of get a little faded when you think about, oh, that happened, and then that one, and when my girlfriend found the Canadian girl in the closet.

02:58:13.000 You had a girl in a closet? 1.00

02:58:15.000 Oh, no.

02:58:16.000 I was going out with—this, of course, is in my book, permanently suspended— I was going out with Jill Nicolini Jill Nicolini was the traffic girl for WPIX in New York I was in love with this girl.

02:58:32.000 I watched her on TV. The O&A show, we would do that.

02:58:36.000 The studio you were at, the K-Rock, Howard's old studio.

02:58:39.000 And there were TVs all over.

02:58:40.000 And we would watch WPIX in the morning, and Jill would be in the helicopter doing the traffic. 1.00

02:58:46.000 And I'm like, motherfucker, she's hot. 1.00

02:58:48.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:58:49.000 So she came over for my birthday. 0.99

02:58:51.000 They had invited her over there to our studio to celebrate my birthday.

02:58:56.000 And I asked her out.

02:58:58.000 And Keith hooked us up with a great restaurant in Little Italy.

02:59:04.000 And we ate there and drank some wine.

02:59:07.000 I went back to her place in Long Island City.

02:59:09.000 And, dude, it was instantaneous. 0.99

02:59:12.000 We're just fucking making out and all this kind of shit. 0.99

02:59:14.000 It was crazy. 1.00

02:59:15.000 I had to talk her into sleeping with her. 0.99

02:59:17.000 I actually used the line.

02:59:19.000 Just the tip.

02:59:20.000 I'll just put the tip in.

02:59:21.000 Dude, I want it so bad.

02:59:23.000 And, you know, it never works. 0.99

02:59:25.000 The tip goes right to the balls. 0.98

02:59:28.000 You never do just the tip, even if you said you did. 0.97

02:59:32.000 So we became an item.

02:59:36.000 It was right at the beginning of the summer.

02:59:38.000 And we were...

02:59:40.000 They were calling us Anthelini for the whole summer.

02:59:45.000 So we're having this big Labor Day party at my house, and I knew this was going to be a big thing.

02:59:52.000 And during the summer, I started getting these clues that she was kind of looking for a father for a baby kind of a thing.

02:59:58.000 And I'm like, yeah, no, I can't see it.

03:00:00.000 She was going to take it a little more serious than I was.

03:00:03.000 You don't want kids ever.

03:00:04.000 No, no, I've just, no, I'm not cut out for that kind of lifestyle.

03:00:10.000 So she plans this big party and this girl I had been involved with a while back from Canada, Halifax, was down. 0.98

03:00:18.000 So she came in and we're kind of sitting in the jacuzzi and Jill kind of noticed some shit was going on. 0.95

03:00:24.000 You know, we might have been a little too close in those bubbles. 0.99

03:00:26.000 You hide everything with the fucking jacuzzi bubbles, just grabbing each other's fucking crotches and things. 1.00

03:00:34.000 So Jill leaves, and I go up to my bedroom and have some sex with the Canadian girl, and then I hear the door open, and it's Jill. 1.00

03:00:44.000 She's come back. 0.99

03:00:46.000 So I have these big walk-in closets, and the Canadian girl just goes into the fucking closet, and I'm laying there. 1.00

03:00:51.000 And Jill comes over, and she's like, what's up? 0.98

03:00:54.000 I'm like, I just woke up.

03:00:57.000 Oh, no. 1.00

03:00:58.000 Dude, she fucking goes down on her knees, pulls the fucking blanket back, and just starts sucking my dick. 1.00

03:01:07.000 And then she goes... 1.00

03:01:10.000 Oh, no.

03:01:12.000 Hmm.

03:01:13.000 Hmm.

03:01:15.000 Yeah.

03:01:16.000 She had... 0.99

03:01:17.000 She tasted another girl. 0.96

03:01:19.000 Oh my god. 1.00

03:01:21.000 Joe, like I said, I am a piece of shit. 1.00

03:01:28.000 Are you laughing? 1.00

03:01:29.000 It's hilarious.

03:01:30.000 She goes to one of the walk-in closets.

03:01:32.000 There's two on the other side of the wall.

03:01:33.000 And opens it up and looks in and then shuts it. 1.00

03:01:35.000 And she's yelling at me about shit. 0.99

03:01:36.000 And I'm denying everything, of course. 0.99

03:01:38.000 And I'm like, oh my god, she didn't open the other closet.

03:01:41.000 This is amazing.

03:01:43.000 So she's walking around, kind of yelling at me.

03:01:45.000 And then she looks. 1.00

03:01:46.000 And I'm like, oh fuck. 1.00

03:01:48.000 She opens up the other closet. 1.00

03:01:50.000 There's like half-dressed Canadian girl who just goes, hey. 1.00

03:01:56.000 Oh my god.

03:01:58.000 Oh, that was...

03:01:59.000 It was a rough one.

03:01:59.000 It was bad.

03:02:00.000 She took... 0.92

03:02:01.000 She left and then she came back later and grabbed all the Canadian girls' clothes and everything, her luggage, threw it in the fire pit and lit it on fire. 1.00

03:02:11.000 All that was in there were like underwires for bras. 1.00

03:02:15.000 She burnt everything.

03:02:17.000 Why was she mad at her?

03:02:18.000 You know, it's hard to get...

03:02:20.000 I'm charming.

03:02:20.000 It's hard to get mad at me.

03:02:22.000 Oh boy.

03:02:23.000 I'm charming, he says.

03:02:24.000 I'm charming.

03:02:25.000 Speaking of charming.

03:02:25.000 It was terrible.

03:02:26.000 Dude, this was years ago.

03:02:27.000 I've grown as a person.

03:02:29.000 You're a changed man.

03:02:30.000 I've grown.

03:02:31.000 When is your Vulcan shows?

03:02:33.000 That would be tomorrow and Saturday night.

03:02:37.000 Tomorrow we're also doing, after the show, is a karaoke thing.

03:02:41.000 We're going to have a bunch of people go in.

03:02:44.000 So when this airs, it'll be that.

03:02:45.000 That night.

03:02:46.000 Because this will go out tomorrow.

03:02:47.000 So this will go out Friday.

03:02:48.000 Okay, so yeah.

03:02:49.000 Friday, Saturday night.

03:02:51.000 At Vulcan.

03:02:52.000 At Vulcan, yeah.

03:02:53.000 And you're going to come to the Creek in the Cave tonight.

03:02:55.000 We'll hang out.

03:02:56.000 Yes!

03:02:56.000 Creek in the Cave.

03:02:57.000 I've got to see. 1.00

03:02:58.000 Fuck yeah, Joe. 1.00

03:02:59.000 I'm looking forward to it. 1.00

03:03:00.000 I missed you, bro.

03:03:01.000 Bra.

03:03:02.000 Well, it was good times, my friend.

03:03:03.000 We just did three hours, believe it or not.

03:03:05.000 It flew by.

03:03:06.000 It really did.

03:03:07.000 And again, the reason why I'm doing this, a big part of how this got started, is because of you.

03:03:13.000 I'm honored hearing that.

03:03:15.000 It's true.

03:03:15.000 You know what?

03:03:16.000 You've taken the ball and really fucking run with it, Joe. 0.99

03:03:20.000 Amazing. 0.97

03:03:21.000 Love you.

03:03:21.000 Thank you, brother.

03:03:22.000 I love you, too.

03:03:23.000 All right.

03:03:23.000 Thank you, everybody.

03:03:23.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 14, 2021

Joe Rogan Experience #1652 - Anthony Cumia

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