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00:00:12.000When I start these things off, it's almost like maybe I should pretend to do a podcast for like 10 minutes before I do a podcast just to warm my fucking stupid face up.
00:00:21.000Well, it's also the freshness of just coming off of getting stoned, too.
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00:00:59.000Do you not want something that engages you and captures your imagination and lets you think, wow, this guy is coming from a very unique point of view?
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00:01:11.000Yeah, it's like Disney not letting their artists eat mushrooms.
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00:01:35.000Scared of people knowing that you give yourself pleasure.
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00:02:43.000You can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:02:47.000But if you're interested in the subject of nootropics, I suggest that you go online and do some research.
00:02:53.000It's a very interesting topic and there's a lot of evidence to support the idea that there are certain nutrients that enhance the way your brain works.
00:03:02.000There are days, we all know this, where you don't feel clear.
00:04:07.000You know, the bullshit about, you know, studies that disprove, studies that prove, I don't think you can accurately get an assessment about that unless we get into some really fucking much more detailed tests of diet and exercise and, you know, and test people that aren't doing it and test people that aren't, and then draw your conclusions.
00:05:39.000It was on like, I believe it was Engadget, or Gizmodo, one of those gadget websites, where they were talking about, there's all these photos of this crazy spacecraft that the government was driving on the back of a truck.
00:06:05.000I mean, the only way this even makes sense is that someone must have insane money and hate this guy, because the story doesn't make any sense.
00:06:12.000But they used a drone to determine that there was cows in this guy's property that weren't his, and that he did not alert the other ranch that their cattle had wandered onto his.
00:06:24.000And they used a drone to determine this.
00:09:08.000It looks like they know some shit's going to go down and they're preparing for the instance in which it does, which is scary.
00:09:14.000It looks like the only way this would be getting passed, the only way this would be accepted by so many people and not enrage others is that they know there's going to be a massive civil unrest.
00:09:25.000They know there's going to be something nutty.
00:09:31.000But as I thought about it, too, I mean, back in the days where you crushed rebellions, you know, there's plenty of tyrannies that have crushed rebellions throughout history.
00:09:39.000There was always certain factors present.
00:09:41.000There was a lack of information able to circulate.
00:10:04.000You know, force majeure of technological superiority in their arms.
00:10:08.000But this is a well-armed nation, and I just can't imagine that even our troops, the some that are brainwashed or not, would ever really want to take out their real guns against our citizens.
00:10:18.000But the citizens, when pushed hard enough, you know, we're all armed.
00:10:22.000I mean, at a certain point where, you know, they're abusing our people grandly, and it could get really bad.
00:10:29.000And I just can't imagine that it could get to that level.
00:10:32.000I can't imagine that it can either, but it really seems like they're preparing for it.
00:10:35.000And when you see how things have slid in certain parts of this country, how far things have gone.
00:10:42.000Like, have you ever seen any of the documentaries on Detroit?
00:10:45.000They show you how bad it is there now?
00:11:12.000I just think that final step that they're trying to prepare for is a step that's ultimately destined for failure.
00:11:18.000They won't be able to pull that trigger.
00:11:19.000It's kind of like in the nuclear age, there's a certain level of warfare that you just can't do.
00:11:25.000You can't get mass a group of people and attack another country that has a nuclear armament because they'll just use the nuke.
00:11:32.000You can't push the Americans too hard because we're all fucking armed.
00:11:37.000And we're all going to be able to communicate with each other.
00:11:39.000There's a certain boundary point where it's destined to fail.
00:11:43.000So I think they have a weird strategy.
00:11:45.000It's like they're preparing for something, but the endgame can't work.
00:11:48.000They can't push that final button where they put live rounds in the troops and start shooting us.
00:11:53.000We just will not fucking allow that under any circumstance.
00:11:57.000And that's what the founders in creating the Second Amendment, I believe they had in mind, was not to protect against our enemies, but also against our own government, misusing the power of the armies.
00:12:06.000It's funny how few people are willing to engage that idea, you know, willing to even throw it out there that it's possible that there could be some sort of a massive civil war in this country and that literally we might have troops, American troops, fighting against Americans.
00:12:59.000It's just like, one of the reasons why everybody was so horrified after 9-11, it's like, you know, people who don't pay that much attention to foreign politics, they don't know exactly what all the complaints are and what countries we're occupying, what sacred land we they don't know exactly what all the complaints are and what countries we're occupying, what sacred land
00:13:20.000If they don't understand what the actual reason for someone being pissed off at us for, their view of the United States most likely is really pretty rosy.
00:13:44.000But you dig deeper and you pay more attention to it and you go, look at what could happen in 10 years.
00:13:50.000Look how it can just slide away from you in 10 years.
00:13:53.000Things like the Patriot Act, things like tapping into people's fucking cell phones on a regular basis with no warrants, and the fact that the Patriot Act was only used a handful of times for actual terrorist attacks, but was used hundreds and thousands of times for drugs.
00:14:12.000I forget the real number, but it was just a ridiculous, disproportionate number where the majority of the times they used the Patriot Act was for drugs.
00:14:27.000You know, preventing these things like that act that just passed is so vital because you give a law, you know, you let a law pass with one intention.
00:14:34.000Well, it doesn't really matter what the intentions are.
00:14:36.000Even the people trying to pass them may have those intentions.
00:14:39.000But ultimately, with that power enabled, the corruption is inevitable and it happens extremely fast.
00:14:44.000And that's even a benevolent kind of view.
00:14:47.000The other view is, yeah, we'll get it passed under these auspices and then we'll really use it to, you know, to do whatever their other means are.
00:14:54.000The setup that they have now where the They're allowed to come up with laws, and then these few handful of motherfuckers that have gotten to the cool kids party, they get to vote on everything, that it goes through the Senate, and it goes through Congress, and they agree to it, and then if the president doesn't veto it, that's it.
00:15:12.000It went through this X amount of people.
00:15:14.000300 million people are changed now and affected by this corrupt, stupid, fucking, shitbag, unconstitutional idea that these fuckheads passed.
00:15:25.000And it's just somehow or another they're allowed to do that.
00:15:27.000That's a ridiculous form of government.
00:15:51.000It needs to be radically overhauled because there's so much that gets done and so much that sucks out there that we just follow it because it's written somewhere and because everybody agreed to it at one point in time.
00:16:03.000But as we've gotten older and you get a much better grasp on how fucked up the world really is and how ridiculous some of the laws that are in place.
00:16:10.000What the actual origin of those laws are and the fact that they're actually based in real, clear, measurable corruption.
00:16:17.000It should be like a fuckload of people should be in jail, is what it should be.
00:16:22.000But instead, it's just kind of like, it is the law.
00:16:27.000I think there's two ways to approach it.
00:16:30.000And I think one of the interesting things that we're going to do is, you know, there's two problems.
00:16:34.000One is what's wrong with, you know, currently the society that we're in and how to bridge that gap.
00:16:39.000But I think as important as anything is to just start fresh, take away all that momentum, all of those, you know, different people trained in the different ways, what you expect, and just kind of start from scratch and say, if you could start from scratch, you know, how could you set this up?
00:16:53.000Knowing what we know now, And knowing the different pathways that history have already paved, how do you prevent these disasters?
00:17:30.000Which is not supposed to be how it is.
00:17:32.000Everybody has the opportunity to go out and make money by whatever means you want to do it.
00:17:36.000And if your means are unsuccessful, it doesn't mean the system sucks.
00:17:40.000It means that for whatever reason, whether you're in a saturated environment or whether, you know, the The job that you want is highly touted, and it's one that everybody wants to get, and there's a lot of competition.
00:18:10.000They're not even willing to try to figure out some way through it.
00:18:13.000We all know that at the beginning of, I mean, I'm sure you must have felt this at points in your life, and I certainly felt it as a struggling comedian.
00:18:21.000There's points where you feel like you're not going to make it.
00:18:25.000You feel like this is a ridiculous pursuit.
00:18:31.000If I was doing that, and then I thought, if I had these self-defeating thoughts, and then I thought that the system was rigged, If I was going to college to get some sort of a job in business, then I realized the system is rigged, and now I'm in that self-defeating stage, and then I'm marching around, that might not necessarily be the best move for you.
00:18:50.000Yeah, no, that's going to cause an end to the situation prematurely, for sure.
00:18:55.000I think people recognize that about any big, giant movement, is that they're not entirely pure.
00:19:12.000I read an interesting piece on that, and there's a Dutch economist, I think this guy Habermas, and his point was that they're leading this almost anarchist movement without any set defined principles.
00:19:24.000As a form of kind of awareness for self-correction by the majority.
00:19:28.000Basically saying that there's nothing that they can say.
00:19:31.000No bill, no law, no rule that will be respected enough to actually come out and say, do this.
00:19:36.000Because the whole system is so corrupt and nepotistic and circular that somehow they would get that concession and then it would be over.
00:19:45.000But by creating this kind of anarchist Where they're just in certain areas and they're just there, they're causing people like us to be more aware, to heighten that sense of self-awareness and self-critical side of things and may actually affect the majority to change in a much broader level than if they actually had demands and actually started to do it.
00:20:05.000Yeah, I mean, you can criticize the people.
00:20:07.000I mean, I think I've said it before, playing hacky sack out on the Austin City Hall, you know, is not exactly going to inspire the most amount of people, but it is going to cause people to talk about it and cause, you know, room for self-reflection.
00:20:19.000And I think that kind of, you know, anarchist protest, almost, which is what it is, is effective in that way.
00:20:25.000Yeah, I think it definitely gets an energy out there.
00:20:28.000And that energy is most certainly interpreted with no question whatsoever.
00:20:49.000And when it becomes us against them, and then they start preparing for us against them with this NDAA thing, That's what it sounds like to me.
00:20:58.000It sounds like they're preparing for some sort of almost military-style civil unrest in this country.
00:21:04.000Well, the pain is only just minor at this point, really.
00:21:21.000These people running down the street, there are hundreds of them, and they encounter like one or two protesters and just club the fuck out of them.
00:21:28.000While they're unconscious, they're jumping on them and booting them in the head and cracking them full blast in the head with batons while they're unconscious.
00:25:50.000But I watched it on TV. I was watching some financial report.
00:25:54.000And there's a ticker tape going on because it's like an alien program to me.
00:25:58.000The ticker tape's going on beneath it.
00:26:00.000And then this guy starts talking about a lack of confidence in this company and a confidence that there's a lot of confidence behind this company.
00:26:51.000The speculatory frenzy around stocks and these things is pretty outrageous.
00:26:55.000Really, it takes away from what originally the idea is, which is to own a share and interest in a company that you thought was going to make money and do things as a positive form of investment.
00:28:41.000At least, ultimately, at the end of the day, you can poke a CEO in the chest and hold something, a service or a product that he created, that the company created, All of these other debt pieces, what are they?
00:28:52.000They're just these numbers that are circulated in a variety of ways where everybody makes money.
00:29:14.000I mean, how are we not expected for them to have it?
00:29:16.000That's why I think one of my biggest beefs with the Occupy Wall Street movement is, you know, it really should be Occupy Washington.
00:29:22.000I mean, you're telling these sharks that, hey, play this game, you can make all the money you want, and if you lose, we're going to bail you out.
00:30:44.000But, you know, ultimately they are super aggressive and they're going to take advantage of any market that they see.
00:30:49.000There's a dude I used to do Taekwondo with who became a stock market guy and I didn't see him for like a couple weeks and I saw him and he was like, he had a suit on and shit.
00:30:56.000And I was like, what are you doing, man?
00:31:45.000I saw a documentary the other day on that country, and this was right before he died.
00:31:49.000I was like, I watched this, and it was showing how all the kids and people are blind.
00:31:55.000In North Korea, they're going blind because their diets are so bad that they're getting cataracts.
00:32:01.000And there was kids, just tons of kids with cataracts because of how poor their diet is.
00:32:06.000I mean, 40%, I think it was, 40 or 45% of the children in North Korea are starving, like dying because of starvation.
00:32:16.000If you're interested in any of this, go to Vice Guide for North Korea.
00:32:20.000Go to vice.com and check out the thing that they have up because they have a bunch of shit today, including all this North Korean labor camp footage where they have all the slave footage that they have.
00:32:56.000It's really amazing that some guy is just allowed to just straight run shit.
00:33:02.000In Thailand, some American just got locked up in jail, I think for a year, for talking bad about the king.
00:33:09.000The king actually doesn't even run the country in Thailand, as far as I remember from when I was there.
00:33:15.000You can't talk shit about him, though.
00:33:16.000But there is a special rule about talking bad about the king.
00:33:20.000It's a weird situation where they have some kind of control on the verbiage towards the king, but he actually has not as much governmental power as...
00:33:29.000As the general other Thai leaders, I don't know what they have as far as a person.
00:34:09.000It's the same exact vein of it, you know?
00:34:11.000I mean, they're not out there causing genocide and attacking other nations, but, I mean, they're fucking, you know, that's a terrible way to live.
00:34:19.000They said that Kim Jong was the number one buyer of Hennessy.
00:34:23.000Number one single person that buys the most Hennessy.
00:34:26.000Do you almost think that Imagine what kind of Fucking rapper parties He must have had The rappers are so mad About that right now They're pressed They're gonna change that Do you think Maybe that we are Planning Did you make that up By the way No it's 100% true I swear to fucking god Look it up I believe you But do you think Maybe that we Poisoned Kim Jong To give him a heart attack Do you think we're planning all this to go to North Korea?
00:36:12.000About 10 days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and And Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in.
00:36:25.000He said, sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second.
00:36:55.000He says, there's nothing new that way.
00:36:57.000They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.
00:37:00.000He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but...
00:37:05.000We've got a good military and we can take down governments.
00:37:08.000So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
00:37:14.000I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
00:37:16.000And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
00:37:17.000He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper and he said, I just...
00:37:21.000He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
00:40:47.000So if we had to do it, we've talked about this, Joe.
00:40:51.000So if we had to start it all over, let's say some cataclysm happens, economic collapse happens, a situation where like-minded people are able to, before it happens, say, all right, listen, we've got to scope out North Dakota.
00:42:20.000He believes that the Anunnaki who created the human out of the lower hominid and the alien genetics, they needed us to mine for gold because they needed gold in massive amounts to suspend in their atmosphere to protect their atmosphere.
00:42:34.000It sounds completely ridiculous, but when you really go back to how long people have been using gold, they were like nomads, man.
00:42:42.000What did you give a fuck about this little shiny, weird, soft metal that you can't even make a tool out of?
00:42:49.000Duxley has a different theory that I think is actually pretty interesting as well.
00:42:52.000He says that the reason people like gold is because it approximates some of the shiny visions that you see under the psychedelic or mystic experience.
00:43:00.000So that's the reason why we like gems.
00:43:05.000But back then that was the only shiny shit that you found in the earth was metal that you mined.
00:43:10.000Right now we mass produce it so it's not that You know, mystical or beholding anymore.
00:43:14.000But he says, you know, he's like, why are we digging in the dirt to find these shiny pebbles still?
00:43:20.000And he says it's because when you're on these kind of mescaline or DMT or these other experiences, you see these multifaceted, you know, you know, colors and lights and shine, you know.
00:43:30.000That kind of makes sense to me, but many more people have gotten into diamonds and rubies than have had psychedelic experiences, right?
00:43:39.000But we all know some knowledge of that realm, and that's his idea.
00:43:44.000His basic concept is that your mind is just a filter, and it symbolizes the things that you see so that you can walk around, you do the normal daily stuff.
00:43:53.000But when you remove that filter, like through psychedelics or through other different methods, some of that starts to peer through and you see the colors in the way that they are in the void and the different aspects outside of our physical confines.
00:44:05.000And that's what's so mystical about them.
00:44:08.000Even if we haven't seen it in psychedelics, we know it.
00:44:11.000And that's part of our soul's knowledge, or at least part of the collective mind at large.
00:44:16.000Well, everyone's had a dream, you know, and any dream state might as well be a psychedelic experience.
00:44:23.000I mean, how many times have dream states just been like, you know, you're involved in something that is just completely ridiculous, makes no sense, and you're just kind of going with it, you know?
00:44:32.000I mean, that's like a lot of really nutty, crazy dreams, right?
00:44:35.000That is like a psychedelic experience, and most likely even caused by psychedelic compounds in the brain.
00:44:42.000They don't totally understand how that works, man.
00:44:45.000They don't totally understand why dimethyltryptamine is in your brain and 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine and when is it actually released.
00:44:53.000There's theories that it's released in periods of high stress and there's some anecdotal evidence, but they really have to develop these much more sensitive ways of determining when the actual DMT is released during various stages of human activity.
00:45:08.000Because right now, from what I understand, one of the only ways to find out is when someone dies.
00:45:13.000Does DMT flood the brain when they die?
00:45:15.000Well, you have to get in there within seconds after they're dead and measure that shit.
00:45:21.000When your body processes it, it's 10, 15 minutes.
00:45:27.000I mean, it's a really quick experience.
00:45:29.000So when someone dies, if they get that blast, if that's what happens, and you have a psychedelic trip that whether it eases your departure from the earth or whether it opens up some fucking gateway to something that's next, whatever the hell it is, it's gone pretty goddamn quickly.
00:45:58.000I spent a long time telling that story about the jungle when I was down there and taking ayahuasca.
00:46:04.000Since then, I had a very deep psilocybin experience in contrast.
00:46:12.000There is something particular about the DMT molecule that I'm convinced that's transcendiary to what, you know, in the framework of the jungle when I was there, that causes you to go to different dimensions than even a psilocybin trip.
00:46:26.000I felt like the DMT molecule is some form of gateway that opens doors that you can't even get with other Energy medicine, psychoactive compounds.
00:46:37.000There's something particularly special about that.
00:46:40.000And I couldn't help but feel that overwhelming feeling.
00:46:43.000I actually was able to, I saw a lot of the same kind of figures and a lot of things like trying to pull me up.
00:46:49.000Like that was a large part of my vision was these reaching down in and trying to pull me up into these higher levels.
00:47:49.000Yeah, there's different situations cause different results, but it's a pretty remarkable experience.
00:47:55.000I haven't done DMT in several years, and it's been a couple because the last time I did it was the only time ever, ever, I mean I've had a bunch of psychedelic experiences, but the last time I did DMT was the only time Where I ever was not sure what was real and what was imagination and fantasy for about two weeks.
00:48:15.000For about two weeks the world itself, like as I was driving, seemed malleable.
00:48:21.000It seemed like if I concentrated on car accidents, I might wind up in a fucking car accident.
00:48:28.000If I concentrate on it raining out, it might rain out.
00:48:31.000It sounded completely ridiculous, and I didn't believe that I could make anything happen with my mind by any stretch of the imagination.
00:48:37.000What I also didn't believe was that reality was 100% real.
00:48:40.000Because what happens when you have a real mind-blowing fucking trip is, first of all, you get terrified that it's that close.
00:48:50.000That all you have to do is smoke that stuff, and it's right there?
00:48:53.000I can get there in 30 seconds, a minute, and I get to some impossible place.
00:49:00.000If you had to journey across the earth to get to some spot in Tibet where you look into the DMT realm, you have to climb through a fucking cave and repel, and you camp out there, and it takes days, and some people die like climbing Mount Everest.
00:49:15.000But if you get there, if you get to that spot, you look out and you see God.
00:49:19.000You look out and you see the most purest wisdom, the most knowledgeable love, the most sympathetic voice, the most knowledge that you could ever possibly imagine coming from something in a way that's not even language, like very difficult to describe, but so the most knowledge that you could ever possibly imagine coming from something in Man, people would take trips to go to that.
00:49:41.000It would be, you know what I'm saying?
00:49:43.000Like if there was like a guy that you could go to that would give you this feeling.
00:50:08.000You're going to give people drugs, the hallucinations, and they're going to, oh, that's going to make them a better person.
00:50:14.000Well, the driving, another, you know, theory from Huxley is that the driving force behind all religion was seeking that That kind of transcendental place.
00:50:22.000And people got to it through a variety of different means.
00:50:24.000He said, you know, all the chanting that you find in these mystical traditions, that raises the CO2 level because you end up breathing out more than you breathe in when you're doing it, unless you're a highly trained singer, you know, and you're expert.
00:50:35.000But most of these ecstatic chanting and yelling and all that is designed to raise that CO2 level.
00:50:40.000You breathe out more than you breathe in?
00:51:07.000People say shit like that, man, it drives me nuts.
00:51:10.000And then you repeat it accidentally, not thinking about it, and then someone else has to come along and go, wait a minute, man, what the fuck did you just say?
00:51:17.000And then you go, yeah, what the fuck did I just say?
00:51:19.000God damn it, I'm just repeating some stupid shit.
00:51:21.000Somebody told me, in martial arts, that was always a problem.
00:51:52.000Sort of, but isn't it possible that it's also perturbing your mind and giving your mind an excess of chemicals to deal with so it distorts your visual perception of the world?
00:52:05.000I mean, it seems to me that you have to look at every single possibility.
00:52:09.000And you have to look at the possibility that if the brain produces all these different chemicals at varying doses and we believe that it varies the doses based on stress levels, wow, there might be something to that.
00:52:20.000There might be something to this possibility that there's a gateway.
00:52:23.000But there's also a possibility that you're just getting fucked up on some wacky drug and seeing some nutty shit and it's so humbling because you don't expect it that when you come back you have all these rationalizations and all this Either way, if you believe it, it can make you a great person.
00:52:53.000And if you believe that your psychedelic experience was truly connecting with the divine, well, that can make you a better person.
00:53:00.000But it could also be your system is just over-flooded by some shit that's not supposed to be there in rocket-fueled doses.
00:53:08.000Just awash in usually what it gets a sip of.
00:53:11.000It's at the bottom of a river of this crazy fucking...
00:53:16.000So that's, I think, that's actually, I think, a more accepted theory than Hudson's, which is that you're actually taking away your filter instead of adding something else.
00:53:58.000Yeah, they would tear themselves apart.
00:53:59.000In the era before soap, that would cause, first of all, the actual beating would cause a lot of adrenaline to rush through your body and histamines to rush through your body as this was going on.
00:54:09.000That, in combination with the fasting that was very popular, obviously Lent, winter was kind of a forced fast, and with the flagellation that caused, you know, in the era before soap, it would almost always fester.
00:54:19.000So there would be all these decomposing protein in your system.
00:54:22.000It would basically reduce Your cerebral capacity to the point where you could enter psychedelic trance states and actually commune with God underneath your...
00:54:36.000So you're saying because they were dirty, stinky people that didn't wash that good, so they didn't scrub off the outside layer of skin, that somehow they're penetrating that would change their state?
00:54:48.000Well, this is in combination with a variety of things.
00:54:51.000So basically, the brain needs vitamins and nutrients to function normally.
00:54:55.000You know, you go through these long periods of fasting.
00:54:57.000That was one way to reach the mystical experience.
00:54:59.00040 days of fasting, you're basically denying your brain of all the glucose, all the vitamins necessary to function optimally.
00:55:06.000And that's when a lot of these people had visions.
00:55:08.000Well, the reason they had visions, according to Huxley, was because the brain was just not able to function as its normal symbolizing cerebral nature that it does to make us all survive.
00:55:18.000So you were able to take in more of the capital M mind at large, which we call the collective now, because of the lack of vitamins.
00:55:25.000And he was saying also the flagellation usually used in conjunction with that.
00:55:29.000So you got your brain basically running on very little, just trying to hang in there.
00:55:36.000And then at that point, you know, you got adrenaline, you got histamines, and then you got festering wounds on your back that are causing more, you know, more kind of toxins to your brain.
00:55:46.000So at that point, your brain just kind of shuts off and it allows more of that mystical experience to come through.
00:56:07.000How did they find out about it though?
00:56:08.000Someone must have beat someone and someone said thank you for starving me and beating the fuck out of me because I learned a lot about myself.
00:56:43.000But he said now, at the state that we know about psychedelics, trying to get to the mystical state through that reason is like burning a house down to cook a pig.
00:56:51.000It's like you don't need to do that anymore.
00:56:54.000You can go out and you can find these tools that were placed here on the earth to help get you that experience.
00:56:58.000Really amazing, and I'd never heard that before.
00:57:01.000I'd never heard that before about the flagellation and the starving.
00:57:49.000Isn't it amazing how the human mind can be programmed like that with religion or with nationalism, whether it's North Korea or whether it's the fucking Inquisition?
01:00:37.000You know, insightful as far as, you know, their intuition and what they're able to see, but certainly there's some critical aspect that they're able to just circumvent and shut off completely, and that's, I think, obvious.
01:00:49.000But once you get that majority, let's say that 20%, Human beings are naturally creatures, social creatures.
01:00:56.000So if you start to see a majority, like if you start to see a bunch of people running, you know, you're going to start jogging the same direction and be like, oh shit, I don't know why I'm jogging, but these people are fucking going and I'm out of here.
01:01:07.000So I think that's part of what happens.
01:01:09.000They get a certain minority, you know, convinced, hypnotized basically to some nonsense.
01:01:14.000And then everybody else is like, oh shit, look at all these people.
01:02:58.000Give them a chance to get out of high school.
01:03:03.000When you're in high school and you're boning and you're raw-dogging it and you're barely pulling out on time, that is the best time to make a person.
01:03:51.000We, in our little fucking interesting minds, have figured out a way to manipulate the Earth so radically that we've polluted the ocean and fucked up the air and left big fucking giant spots where no one can go for 100,000 years.
01:04:05.000There's a gang of them where we drop nuclear bombs just to fucking see what would happen.
01:04:10.000It's like, We had to get rid of nuclear waste.
01:04:25.000The guy Malthus is a politician and economist and he basically said food production increases arithmetically and population increases geometrically.
01:04:37.000So that ultimately the way things are going, we see this in all these third world countries, reproduction is far outpaced.
01:04:44.000You know the amount of food supply and the things and this happens at various periods in history and so either nature is going to take care of it either in one fell swoop through a giant famine or through disease or through the other kind of overpopulation effects then nature will kind of auto correct these mistakes or you have to take different methods of contraception very seriously and start teaching that you know at an early age and you know putting that in people's minds We're
01:05:14.000still preaching abstinence, which is nonsense.
01:07:34.000I mean, he seemed like, you know, he wasn't an intellectual, but he seemed like, especially back when he was running for governor, it seems like he put some fucking words together.
01:08:03.000If Newt Gingrich would be president, it would be like if you dated this girl and she was a cunt and her dad was a cuntier cunt, that's Newt Gingrich.
01:08:11.000Like if you dated a girl and she was just a fucking...
01:08:14.000She was nagging and paying the ass and then you had to go over and meet her parents and her dad is like, you better be nice to my daughter.
01:08:59.000To go back to the point that you were talking about sex earlier, because I thought about this a lot in building a society, and some of the solutions that people had to...
01:09:10.000To the population growth problem was actually teaching a form of Tantra, which is where you withhold your seed when you're having sex.
01:09:18.000I ain't even trying to hear about that.
01:09:21.000In all fairness, I gave it a go, right?
01:09:24.000And it's pretty interesting, the dynamics.
01:09:27.000Now, I don't think I would try this personally very often, but if you created a system where you actually taught sex, and this was one of the ways you could do it.
01:09:35.000How is Tantra any better than the pull-out method?
01:11:46.000But if you don't fuck them, and then you take them out into the wild, and they're pumping out all those someone's gonna fuck me tonight hormones, and it might be you.
01:12:03.000A lot of those effects are not only evening dependent, but whole relationship dependent girls who've just never properly gotten biologically fucked.
01:12:14.000I mean, how many girls have you ever met that date really weak dudes because they're terrified of being in a situation where a man controls them?
01:12:21.000Because either a man was abusive earlier in their life, or they had a bad I know girls that are constantly involved in beta men.
01:12:44.000They're always fucking falling behind on their bills.
01:12:46.000And these girls are always nagging at them to get their shit together.
01:12:50.000And it's this weird relationship, man, where the woman makes more of the money, and the woman pays for the car, and he has to borrow it from her when he wants to go out.
01:13:37.000There's some definite demasculinizing movement that has caused a whole crop of males to be pretty ineffectual, I think, when it comes to that.
01:13:45.000I think a lot of it is because women have to take care of themselves, and they don't want to hear your bullshit.
01:13:50.000And then men want those women to like them, so they become emasculated or demasculated.
01:16:13.000But he said anytime you, if you want to do a podcast at the Ice House, you'll bring a couple by so we can play around with it and we can meet them.
01:16:19.000Yeah, tell them to get with the fleshlight people and come up with a better cooter.
01:16:50.000And she'd be like, hello, you know, whatever.
01:16:52.000Well, you could get it to the point where it was like a sexual training device.
01:16:57.000Apparently they're going to come out with some sort of an Apple device where Siri communicates to your phone through something that you wear.
01:17:04.000So you'll be doing almost everything through Siri.
01:18:17.000It's like skid marks on a fucking pool table.
01:18:21.000Fear Factor was awesome last night, man.
01:18:23.000It was really interesting to see that the two muscle guys, like there was two guys on the show, like the big buff, like ripped guys, had such a hard time early on.
01:18:33.000I was like, wow, those two little gay guys just beat these little muscle guys.
01:18:52.000When you see a guy that has an extraordinary amount of muscle on him, to someone who does jiu-jitsu or someone who does MMA, you look at that guy and go, how long can you last?
01:19:32.000One good exertion away from their heart fucking exploding in their chest.
01:19:37.000It's like they have a computer, like a Celeron 300 processor, and they got it jacked up to 425. You're not supposed to be carrying around that much weight, man.
01:21:10.000I don't know if you remember the other day, Esther gave us a bunch of those drinks, those fruit drinks, and I had one the other day, because she left one over in the fridge, and it was an orange pineapple or something like that, and I was drinking it, and suddenly in my mouth, a bug.
01:21:52.000When you, I hate to like be morose though, but when you see people get sick and you see people that aren't healthy, do you ever stop and think, man, eventually I'm going to have to quit smoking cigarettes and actually get my body in some sort of shape?
01:22:15.000And then I'm going to be like, no more marijuana for me.
01:22:18.000You're just going to wait until something breaks and then you'll get super healthy.
01:22:21.000Diet-wise, Weight Watchers, I know you don't believe this, but diet-wise, I eat really healthy and I'm constantly doing juicing and making stuff like that.
01:22:32.000I believe you eat some healthy things.
01:22:34.000But then I definitely, you know, I'll have like an Olive Garden here or there or something like that where I'll just, you know, fuck.
01:23:02.000I think an important concept, even it applies to the muscle men and applies to everybody.
01:23:06.000I actually wrote about it on the Onnit blog.
01:23:08.000It's called, Are You Fit Enough to Survive?
01:23:10.000And I think there's an important concept in there.
01:23:12.000Like, take away all of the normal rules.
01:23:14.000Let's go back to, like, a primitive state where you have to chase food for a while, maybe run after them a few days, and you have to do certain explosive movements in a fight against an animal or another.
01:23:23.000Before I answer your question, just take a look at that shit right there.
01:23:39.000For other folks, I think some people are averse to physical activity.
01:23:43.000It reminds them of fucking gym class or whatever, and they don't like it.
01:23:47.000But I think especially for men, that haunts part of their physical psyche, to know that they wouldn't, on a basic primal level, be fit enough To survive in a situation where there weren't all these rules in supermarkets and laws that kind of break them down.
01:24:00.000Unless they have mad Asperger's and they don't know what the fuck is going on.
01:24:05.000They're just sitting around counting numbers.
01:24:06.000I think everyone's bodies are totally designed different because you work out, you feel good when you work out.
01:25:18.000See, that shit doesn't happen for me at all.
01:25:20.000But then there's the nature versus nurture thing, because I know a certain amount of it is biological, but a certain amount of it is also I've been feeding my body this adrenaline energy explosion of My body, from the time I was a small boy, has been exploding on things, just smashing things.
01:25:36.000And when your body grows up like that, and it sort of like engineers itself to perform under those balance loads, you know, under those extreme loads, rather, then when it builds up for that, and then when there's no load, there's no release, there's no explosion, there's no sprints, there's no smash, smash, smash, all of a sudden you just got all this smash juice, and it's not going anywhere, and somebody cuts you off in traffic, Fuck you!
01:25:59.000I'll fucking spew my smash juice on you!
01:26:03.000There's a lot of people that you see in traffic, man, and they're fucking freaking out and going off on someone.
01:26:09.000A lot of those people just need a physical thing.
01:26:13.000They need a physical thing to keep their body in balance.
01:26:40.000And so to compensate, we have to create particularly intense one-hour sessions often because we are going to be sitting the rest of the time.
01:26:46.000It's just the nature of how our jobs are.
01:26:49.000But that physical release, I think, is important, not just for the body.
01:26:52.000Obviously, the health benefits of the body are immense, but for the mind as well.
01:26:57.000I've been doing light workouts throughout the day.
01:26:59.000Instead of just one big fucking crazy workout a day, I had a back issue.
01:27:05.000I kept getting the same muscle pull in my back because I would let it get like three-quarters of the way healed and then jump back into jiu-jitsu class and fuck it up again.
01:27:13.000So I had to take like a certain amount of time off.
01:27:15.000And when I took time off, I found out there's a lot of shit that I could still do that wasn't fucking with me.
01:27:32.000And then I started doing all these things throughout the day.
01:27:34.000I would do it several times a day where I would do just a few kettlebell exercises.
01:27:39.000And I found that I was getting less sore, but I was getting strength gains.
01:27:43.000Because when I was doing it over the course of a few months, I was noticing that when I do these little smaller workouts, a friend of mine told me that he got the best results on his chin-ups when he installed a chin-up bar in his house and every day he would just do 10 chin-ups.
01:28:13.000But you do it every day and your body goes, alright, we need these fucking ligaments, we need more blood, we need to thicken this forearm up and then next thing you know, it was almost like no pain but gain.
01:28:25.000Those body weight workouts, a lot of people have had a lot of success with that.
01:28:28.000I think it was Herschel Walker that did just a ridiculous amount of push-ups.
01:28:31.000A lot of people say that Herschel Walker also lifted weights and he lies about it.
01:30:09.000But before Jon Jones, we're never seeing some guy who just can learn shit really fast, and he's ridiculously strong, and it seems like he's just...
01:30:18.000He just has an advantage over everyone he faces.
01:30:21.000When Jon Jones grabbed Leota Machida in that fucking standing guillotine, you just knew Leota was not getting out.
01:30:27.000His strength, his ability to manipulate bodies, it's really freaky to watch, man.
01:30:35.000I describe it as he's got some crazy ant strength.
01:30:39.000When you see an ant pick things up effortlessly, ant picks up a leaf, and it's like, how the What the fuck is that again?
01:32:08.000It's like 8% of all the Asiatic people, but 0.5% of the entire world because of just the amount of people that he had sex with and his descendants had sex with because the Kublai Khan then went into power and he ran the Chinese dynasty.
01:32:22.000But that kind of effect, we won't ever see anything like that.
01:33:22.000But then, as a military mastermind, he was brilliant as far as what he did.
01:33:26.000He kind of revolutionized a lot of the theories of warfare.
01:33:28.000So, very intelligent, very physically capable.
01:33:31.000And by his sexual encounters, at least the genetics part, I mean, fatherhood was a whole other issue and the humanity involved in all the races.
01:34:24.000It seems that as we approach some sort of a symbiotic relationship with computers and technology that's inescapable, the power of the physical becomes less important.
01:34:33.000Sure, so it should be the smartest person.
01:34:36.000The smartest people have to get that pussy.
01:34:38.000The people who have the power now aren't the physically strongest.
01:35:12.000Yeah, obviously, the smart people are not getting to breed at the same rate as Genghis Khan did, but...
01:35:18.000I think people in general are just much smarter and much more aware and much more in tune than ever before.
01:35:25.000But as far as like, yeah, like super geniuses, the biological race over the technological race, it seems to me the technological is so fucking far ahead of the biological that it's almost ridiculous to assume that the biological is ever going to catch up, whether it's through natural selection or not.
01:35:39.000It just seems like technology in the short amount of time that it's been around has achieved so much momentum and so much innovation.
01:35:47.000It's gone so many generations and models greater than what it was when it was first introduced that it seems like inevitable that that's going to be the big tip off.
01:35:56.000It's going to be a technological innovation sort of a thing that changes everything.
01:36:00.000And the idea that the human body is going to get good enough to catch up to that, I think that's ridiculous.
01:36:05.000I think what's going to happen is there's going to be some sort of a large-scale genetic engineering of the human body.
01:36:15.000We're going to have the ability to fly.
01:36:19.000Technology is moved by genius people, outliers, a lot of the time.
01:36:25.000We're closing down the possibilities for that genius-to-genius mating that would naturally occur to create That's okay because a genius can just shoot a load into a cup and make a million new people from it.
01:36:37.000I mean, I think eventually when we figure out how the body is actually created, how organs are created and we figure out the ability to replicate them, we're going to be able to figure out the way to make a super body.
01:36:49.000Whether it's through some sort of a genetic manipulation to a person that already exists in a certain form, like in fucking Captain America, when they lock him into that tube and they zap him with all that blue shit and then, ba-boom, he comes out a super person.
01:37:05.000Don't you think that seems to me like it would be way easier to do than it would be to send pictures through the air and have it go to someone else in Australia or China or something like that?
01:37:17.000That seems to me way more impossible than you can improve a biological unit.
01:37:36.000Now, we shouldn't say are because it's people far smarter than you or I. But those people, the people at the head of it, their understanding increases every single year.
01:38:26.000Why else would the universe have evil?
01:38:28.000I mean, all this stuff that exists, terrible feelings, horrible things you see, atrocities, the guy in Brooklyn who lit the woman on fire in the elevator, why do these even exist?
01:38:37.000Why does the universe have this as an option?
01:38:40.000If this does seem to be some sort of a mechanism or a program that's moving towards a very specific idea or a goal, something specific is going to...
01:38:56.000We're involved in some really super complicated process.
01:39:00.000I agree with that, but I think that's kind of looking at a linear curve of progress, and I think there's some things missing from our evolution, and I think our spiritual base has gotten thrown way off.
01:39:11.000Do you think it's possible that that's natural?
01:39:16.000Do you think it's possible that this lack of connection to the spiritual was almost necessary to create this technological fucking bizarro world that we live in with no conscience and no thinking about the future and no planning?
01:39:35.000In order for this thing to arise out of the human animal, we need to become some sort of a technological zombie that just creates and goes forth and does its bidding, does the bidding of the technology.
01:39:45.000Much like those fucking mushrooms, I think it's a cordyceps mushroom that gets inside the fucking ant's head and makes them explode.
01:39:57.000It's like we're infected with technology.
01:40:00.000It's almost like technology is what's keeping us from recognizing all these other spiritual realms and keeping us pushing forth in a certain direction, because if you think about it, Without any technology whatsoever, they would never be able to stop mushrooms.
01:40:40.000Wolves is whatever fucked up thing they do where they push the beta male out and he's going to starve to death.
01:40:44.000We look at it's horrible, but we also know that it's natural.
01:40:47.000And it happens over and over and over and over again.
01:40:50.000And there's, of course, a bunch of different scenarios that can take place.
01:40:53.000There's a lot of different things that can happen.
01:40:55.000But ultimately, they're moving in the same sort of a natural direction every time.
01:40:59.000How do we not know that our lives are not exactly the same way, just far more complex and intertwined, and we're aware of it.
01:41:07.000So it gives us this illusion that somehow or another this is just a random series of events.
01:41:13.000Yeah, I mean, obviously that's certainly a possibility, but I think that I do strongly believe that there were certain situations in which key people in the wrong moments and key movements in society kind of debilitated this natural spiritual flourishing that should have grown in conjunction with the technology.
01:41:31.000Maybe technology was always destined to outpace it a little bit.
01:41:34.000Maybe it's your job to illuminate people.
01:42:59.000Unless you know exactly what you're doing.
01:43:01.000But if you do, you can get to these realms that give you direct access to God.
01:43:06.000And the reason why religions have pushed against that, if you have direct access to the all, to the universe, to God, whatever name you want to put on it, then you don't need the priests.
01:43:15.000And if you don't need the priests, they have no power.
01:43:18.000So all of these religions came up putting intermediaries in place so that they could develop these massive power structures using guilt and different mechanisms to control the people.
01:43:29.000And now, you know, here's a chance to correct.
01:43:32.000Well, that was John Marco Allegro's thoughts for the whole creation of the Bible in the first place, that it's suppression of information, that the original stories were hidden in these, you know, these little tales in the Bible with all these little hidden clues, but that really what it was all about was psychedelic mushrooms, that these people were just trying to preserve this information when they were captured by the Romans.
01:43:53.000It's fascinating if that is the root of it all.
01:43:57.000The root of it all, just a few people trying to keep this experience, this connection to something else going, whether it's real or not, whether it's real or imagined.
01:44:05.000Like I said, Christianity may be not real, but fucking helps you for sure.
01:44:10.000Well, if something's going on, if it's fake, and yet it still helps.
01:44:14.000I know a lot of people, believe it or not, they believe, and because they believe, they've become better, their life's been enriched.
01:44:20.000So that's an effective tool, you know?
01:44:23.000Well, I mean, you also have to think, you know, obviously there needs to be a place for that, and Christianity can fill it, but is it the best tool to fill that?
01:44:35.000The difference between like, you know, a lot of people say like, why would you talk bad about someone's ideas when it comes to like Christianity, but yet you espouse all these ridiculous ideas when it comes to drugs?
01:44:46.000Well, first of all, it's not all drugs, it's psychedelics.
01:45:08.000There's definitely some perturbing of your visual senses, your perceptions of the world.
01:45:13.000But then there's also a voice and there's a conversation with something that seems outer-worldly that's communicating with you in some sort of a telepathic way.
01:45:22.000And there's always a deep insight into how your life works and a really clear illumination of all the issues that you've got going on.
01:45:29.000Which is like, why would there be an experience that's both humbling and enlightening and guiding?
01:45:45.000Well, I mean, there's two ways to look at it.
01:45:47.000Yeah, there's the what is actually happening way, but then there's the simple pragmatic effect of how it affects people who take it.
01:45:53.000And overwhelmingly, the people who have taken these with the right intent in the right setting have these mystical experiences that change their life for the positive.
01:46:02.000So whatever you're accessing, pragmatically, it's a positive benefit.
01:46:05.000It fills this void to find the mystic.
01:46:08.000Obviously, myself and you believe that there is something else out there that you're accessing, for sure, and the traditions do as well.
01:46:13.000But either way, just on a purely pragmatic approach, it's having positive benefits on a human's life.
01:46:29.000They're coming to this conclusion after doing tests on people.
01:46:31.000The point there is they say they found a sweet spot where we can optimize the positive, persistent effects and avoid some of the fear and anxiety that can occur and be quite disruptive, says lead author Roland Griffiths, professor of behavioral biology at Hopkins.
01:46:45.000So what he's essentially saying is, what everyone's been saying, you need a shaman.
01:46:49.000A shaman doesn't just throw you out into the fucking woods, but gives you the correct dose and allows you to achieve this state of oneness.
01:46:58.000Whatever it is, let's just call it bliss.
01:47:00.000So we take out all the woo Let's just call this state of enhanced experience that is a psychedelic bliss.
01:47:08.000It's bliss mixed with self-reflection and critical self-reflection.
01:47:11.000Very fair, honest, and uncomfortable at times.
01:47:16.000And that's a hallmark of all psychedelic experiences is the personal reflection.
01:47:26.000You know, they hate when they go too deep, when they fuck up and eat a brownie, like, you bitch, and then they sit down and freak out about the fucking world.
01:47:33.000As much as you think you're looking at the whole thing, I bet you're not looking at it all, because you can't.
01:47:39.000In order to get in your fucking car and get on the 405 every day and drive into downtown L.A., The only way you can do that every day is if you compartmentalize your thinking.
01:47:49.000And if you're thinking about the very structure of the universe, you get subatomic particles, you start thinking about waves and string theory.
01:48:00.000And craziness, and what is cells, and biology, and the different organisms that live in your body, and the healthy bacteria you consume, and yogurt, and fucking acidophilus, and like, what's going on here?
01:48:49.000But actually finding that point of stillness, In our lives, that's dinner.
01:48:52.000And then the banquet is when you get to really go into the void and bring back some knowledge and some different experience.
01:48:58.000But I think that would be the one thing, if we could create one rule, and if I could say I had omnipotent power, the one rule would be that there would be some shamanistic tradition that had a coming-of-age custom ceremony in the world in which when you came of age as a society, You know, you had a psychedelic mystical experience with a trained guide with your peers and with your elders and had this community experience, even if it was only just one.
01:49:25.000So you got to experience and taste that something else that's wholly other than just yourself and kind of transcend your own ego, even for one evening.
01:49:33.000And I think that would make single-handedly the most difference as far as change in society.
01:49:39.000You know, that one coming-of-age ritual in which, you know, they got to experience that.
01:51:52.000I mean, it sounds so stupid and ridiculous and simple, but it really does.
01:51:57.000I mean, in order to accomplish this greater goal, this bizarre, multicultural, uber-complex civilization, it really does require almost every conceivable personality all working together.
01:52:07.000I agree, but I still think that people should strive for internal balance.
01:52:10.000I think that leads to the biggest happiness.
01:52:12.000Sure, especially if you're pulled towards that, if you feel like it's missing in your life.
01:52:17.000And for a lot of people, that is the case.
01:52:41.000You can't get Daryl Wright and a porn star in one room and expect fucking sparks.
01:52:47.000If you can figure out a way to do that, to find whatever it is you do that you really get satisfaction with, whether it's carpentry or whether it's painting pictures or whatever the fuck it is, That really is one of the most important things.
01:53:06.000You know, when people get mad at me on the message board because I keep fucking pinking people and banning people, the way my message board is set up on JoeRogan.net There's a bunch of moderators, all of them I know personally, or at least I know them online, and they're all really cool.
01:53:19.000And they don't want you being a douchebag.
01:53:21.000If you act too annoying, you're trying too fucking hard, you stumble in, piss off people, you get cunty, you just get moved to this stupid room.
01:53:30.000In this stupid room, you get a pink name, and now everybody knows you fucked up.
01:53:34.000You either acted like an asshole, or you were rude, or...
01:54:20.000Because you come over and you bring a bad vibe.
01:54:22.000And people, for whatever fucking reason, because they're so entitled with this sense of anonymity and this unnatural way of behaving that people have because there's no social repercussions, the norm is to be cunty.
01:54:35.000The norm is to say bitchy shit that would make me tell you to get the fuck out of my party.
01:55:03.000There's other ways to communicate, you fuck.
01:55:05.000And you're thinking that there's only one way because you've been doing it this way for so fucking long, you actually feel entitled to be a cunt.
01:57:30.000But the methylcobalamin is a different type of B12 than the cyanocobalamin.
01:57:35.000Cyanocobalamin actually creates a molecular cyanide when it's released into the body, but methylcobalamin is called methyl B12. A lot healthier for the body and a lot better.
01:57:44.000But a lot of people take, like an athlete that gets an injection, that's tens of thousands of micrograms of B12. So it's water-soluble, releases any excess, just releases through urine.
01:57:55.000So the body will utilize what it can and then just pee out the rest.
01:58:00.000And the cordyceps mushroom was first used by Chinese athletes?
01:58:03.000Is that who they figured it out first?
01:58:13.000And up there in those altitudes, the herds and the people get very sluggish.
01:58:16.000And they notice that when a certain type of mushroom was available and on the ground and the herds would eat it, the herds would become particularly active.
01:58:27.000They'd be able to push them harder and they'd be playing more.
01:58:29.000And so, you know, back in the day, that was your biggest cue if you were just a person kind of looking around.
01:58:34.000So they took a look at these and they tried them themselves and found the same results.
01:58:38.000And what we know now is that the cordyceps mushroom, it's actually a symbiont to the ghost moth, which is the host for the mushroom.
01:58:48.000And what they believe that it does is the same thing that it does in people And in other animals that ingest it, it increases the oxygen utilization and cellular energy of the animal, of the moth itself, to allow the moth in this extremely high altitude plane to be able to fly better, to be able to fly longer, and actually survive and adapt.
01:59:07.000And then when the moth dies, the cordyceps mushroom actually springs out of it.
01:59:12.000And so the first people to discover it in form of like real athletic competition was Coach Ma and the Chinese Olympic team back in Beijing.
01:59:34.000Whatever jungle it is, where those ants get infected by spores, and then those spores explode out of their fucking head and contaminate the other ants.
02:00:29.000Until Aloha Nutritional, the company that we get it from, Dr. John Holliday, he made some...
02:00:34.000Real advances in medicine that allowed him to cultivate it in a competitive substrate that allows the cordyceps to grow and be very effective in a cultivated state.
02:00:45.000Yeah, explain the competitive aspect of it because that's really fucking fascinating.
02:00:48.000Yeah, so they grow it in like a brown rice kind of compote substrate.
02:00:52.000And what they found is that mushrooms have to compete for a variety of things.
02:00:55.000When they come upon a log or any kind of different environment when they're in, depending on what's out there, they will...
02:01:03.000Put out anti-competition compounds, which actually both strengthen their own species and also eliminate the other species.
02:01:10.000So if there's a bunch of bacteria, they'll excrete certain things to thwart the bacteria that's trying to get at the decomposing lung.
02:01:16.000But if there's other mushrooms, there's certain anti-competition compounds available in those mushrooms that's going to allow the mushroom to actually thrive.
02:01:24.000And some of those anti-competition compounds are some of the bioactive compounds that are found in the mushrooms.
02:02:25.000Other studies have shown varying different degrees, but always oxygen utilization is a key.
02:02:30.000And also, adenosine providing increased ATP synthesis versus ADP. The biggest boost that I ever got endurance-wise is when I had my nose fixed because my nose was all fucked up and broken inside.
02:02:57.000When I have, like, real hard workouts, man, you know, especially, like, jujitsu class, like, you know, I rolled for the first time in a while last night, and I rolled, like, You know, deep into the class.
02:03:08.000Like, a lot of times, you know, you go five or six guys and you just don't want to do it anymore.
02:03:25.000But it doesn't give me that cracked out, red There's no stimulants in it.
02:03:29.000So surrounding the cordyceps, which is providing cellular energy versus glandular energy.
02:03:34.000Glandular energy is basically tricking your body to release adrenaline.
02:03:37.000That's what caffeine and all these things are doing.
02:03:39.000You're basically releasing more adrenaline.
02:03:41.000So you feel like you have energy, but your actual cells, which are still using the ATP cycle to produce energy, don't have any extra energy.
02:03:48.000So you push harder because you think you have more energy.
02:04:42.000Beta-alanine, Dr. Ulis told me about this.
02:04:45.000Ulis is a famous sports doctor, and he said this is one of the few things that he's noticed over the past few years, supplements that he finds to be really legit as far as muscle building, muscle recovery.
02:04:57.000He's found that he makes big gains with this stuff, or quicker gains than he's used to, and he's pretty in tune with his body.
02:05:03.000That's another thing about this shroom tech stuff.
02:05:05.000I think you have to be in tune with your body.
02:05:07.000And, you know, when people ask me, like, hey, what should I buy?
02:05:29.000When you get a grande coffee at Starbucks and you two sips in and you fucking love everything, fuck you, I want to go fucking paint my car, you know?
02:05:38.000You get almost like a meth crank, sort of a really excited feeling to it.
02:05:44.000You don't ever get that with Shroom Tech.
02:06:31.000What they do is they actually trigger an innate response from the immune system.
02:06:36.000In the body's natural immune system, the gut is responsible for a lot of the natural killer cells that actually fight all the pathogens and entering bacteria, viruses, cancer cells that are shed.
02:06:48.000What happens at an early age for us is with all the antibiotics that are in our water that we take, we end up killing scores of these probiotic bacteria in our stomach.
02:06:58.000They are no longer available to create the amount of immune cells that can go attack any invading pathogens that get us sick all the time.
02:07:13.000At the same time as cancer patients getting treatment for chemotherapy, at the same time that hepatitis B patients are getting treatment with lamivudine, which is a prescribed pharmaceutical viral therapy, and having dramatically positive results in combination with other treatments because it's raising the body's natural immune system.
02:07:31.000And how it does it is these triple right-hand beta-glucan polysaccharide molecules, which are unique to these mushrooms, they are recognized by the body as foreign elements.
02:07:41.000And so the body mounts up their charge of innate and natural killers, these T cells and different killer cells, and basically builds an army to deal with this that's actually a benign threat.
02:07:51.000So there's a cardboard army coming at them and they have a hundred nukes.
02:08:04.000The system is supposed to have more natural killer cells in it naturally, innately.
02:08:09.000And as I was mentioning, I think you might have been doing something.
02:08:13.000But what happens is when the gut gets all that probiotic bacteria gets killed from all the antibiotics in our different foods, we eat water and different drugs, they're not able to produce an adequate quantity.
02:08:24.000So we're actually at an immune deficit naturally.
02:08:27.000Do antibiotics actually make it from a cow into your body when you eat a cow?
02:08:33.000There's a lot of people who believe so.
02:09:10.000Our natural immune cell producers are not there in the quantity that they should be, that they used to be.
02:09:15.000And so, you know, really taking these particular mushroom stimulators is one way that we can actually build our army back up so it can fight off not only the little things, the little colds, the little flus, the little stuff that we just kind of deal with, but also, you know, a lot of the big things start small.
02:09:32.000You know, different cells shed different mutated mated cells.
02:09:36.000A dendritic cell should be around to just say, oh, that thing's fucked up.
02:09:40.000But a lot of times that doesn't happen just because we don't have the available immune innate response to challenge that.
02:09:46.000So Shrimp Tech Immune combines that proprietary compound, IOimmune, which has been well studied in a bunch of the studies, combines it with chaga mushroom, which is also another great mushroom that has a lot of the same triple right-hand helix beta-glucans.
02:10:01.000It also has etulinic acid, which comes actually from the birch tree in which it is found.
02:10:06.000So wild harvested chaga is actually better for you than cultivated chaga.
02:10:10.000There was a dude who had some whole video where he was pushing chaga.
02:10:13.000This is when I first started doing it.
02:10:14.000Some crazy guys tattooed all over his whole body with some weird, like, different inks and shit.
02:11:13.000If mushrooms really do have intelligence, like when you eat There's a lot of people that believe that plants have a certain intelligence.
02:11:20.000They just don't have the ability to communicate.
02:11:22.000But if these mushrooms somehow have an ability to communicate because they're all connected like that and they have this intelligence they can communicate with each other, that's some incredible information superhighway that's in the forest up there.
02:11:36.000Sounds very Avatar, but it's very possible.
02:11:39.000But look, Avatar is based on a lot of hippy-dippy, woo-woo ideas about the intelligence of plants.
02:11:46.000But I've talked to people, I have to research whether or not it's real, but plants can tell when they're around certain persons who have harmed them.
02:11:53.000Someone comes along and chops a fucking plant with an axe.
02:12:28.000Nootropics, you know, we've been talking about nootropics on my message board for like the longest time and I've been experimenting with them for years.
02:12:35.000But until we started getting in the business of actually selling them, I didn't realize how cunty people can be about these things.
02:12:41.000But one of the criticisms, and I think there's some legitimacy to this, is the way it's marketed.
02:12:49.000And, you know, it's not on purpose, I don't think.
02:12:52.000I think the way you set it up was you're just trying to be enthusiastic about it.
02:12:57.000And the problem, somebody once said that, I forget where I wrote this, I believe I read it today, it might have been on the message board, but it was about in first impression that it's very difficult to take that back.
02:13:11.000And once you create something and you put something out there and people get an idea of who you are, it's very difficult for them to correct that and normalize.
02:13:21.000So you have to be really careful what your initial first thing is.
02:13:24.000And one of the things that we get criticized with is this guy, Steve Novella, who's, I don't know, some super smart dude.
02:13:41.000He doesn't say, but essentially he's criticizing the way that it's marketed, the way that the studies were put out there.
02:13:52.000Yeah, and I think, you know, I think looking at that criticism, I think in any variety of criticism, I mean, I think you have to just learn and adapt and get better from it.
02:14:02.000And I think he, you know, I think he has a very skeptical mindset, which I think in a lot of avenues is very positive, but I think...
02:14:10.000He actually runs a few shows called, you know, The Skeptic, some Skeptic Hour or some variety of different things.
02:14:16.000So he has that kind of framework in mind.
02:14:18.000But, you know, some of his criticisms are fair, you know, really.
02:14:21.000And what, you know, taking that criticism and, you know, a lot of criticism from the board that even if it's very negatively put, applying that has helped, I believe, you know, us to become better, at least myself as a person, to become better as far as marketing that and You know, there's certain areas that you got to shore up and you got to be tighter and you got to be better and really try and present information so that just people have as much information as possible, can make educated decisions.
02:14:45.000I mean, the many people who take AlphaBrain and have had amazing results, you know, that is, you know, that will be evidence for, you know, for a lot of people to give it a try.
02:14:54.000And, you know, if they don't like it, then they can get their money back and they don't even have to send the bottle back in.
02:15:52.000I think there's a certain sensitivity to Hipersea serrata, which is creating an acetylcholine boost, and that's something that we're addressing in future formulas.
02:16:02.000It'll actually make somebody feel, potentially, and this is our best estimation of what's happening, but it seems like the case.
02:16:10.000When they take too big of a dose, the acetylcholine levels get too Yeah, I tell people take one.
02:16:23.000I like a light meal, especially if you're on taking one.
02:16:27.000Maybe not a completely dead, empty stomach.
02:16:30.000But if you pile it on to a giant cheeseburger, you've got so much stuff going on, it's going to be very difficult and it might just get pushed through.
02:16:37.000Does it enhance its absorption using food?
02:16:39.000No, it just enhances its tolerability to a certain degree.
02:17:14.000I mean, that rate, I would have to say, is less than one out of every 200. But, you know, it is definitely a bummer and it's something we want to address.
02:17:24.000And at least, especially by telling people to start conservative with their dosage.
02:17:27.000And then taking a look at the Huperzia serrata.
02:17:31.000And we actually have, you know, have some things in mind for the proper, you know, proper balances of Huperzia serrata to GPC choline to make sure that those are going to be better tolerated throughout the future of AlphaBrain.
02:17:45.000Hopefully, just like I said, you learn and you try and improve and be the best product for everybody.
02:17:51.000I think for some people, it won't work.
02:17:53.000For some people, they may have an adverse reaction, but the overwhelming majority has spoken very positively.
02:18:00.000It's great to hear that feedback from the product.
02:18:04.000There's one of the dudes who's on the message board.
02:18:06.000His name is James MMA. Very bright guy, and he's one of the skeptics or critics.
02:18:14.000And you had a conversation with him about, he had asked you how it works, improving cognitive function, like what the fuck it does.
02:18:23.000And you said basically that alpha brain is designed to provide the precursors and raw nutrients necessary to raise levels of important neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine, and GABA. Now, how is that done?
02:18:36.000What's the mechanism that allows it to raise these levels of these important neurotransmitters?
02:18:43.000Well, it just depends on which neurotransmitter you're talking about.
02:18:46.000But if you're talking about acetylcholine, we come at that in two fronts.
02:18:49.000The GPC choline is one of the raw nutrients involved in the production of acetylcholine.
02:18:54.000So by providing more of the raw ingredient, it allows the body to produce more.
02:18:58.000And then huperzi serrata is coming at a different angle.
02:19:05.000It's actually inhibiting the amount of acetylcholine that the body breaks down.
02:19:10.000So it's providing more acetylcholine from a kind of a different angle by actually creating a surplus of what you currently have rather than the GPC choline, which is creating more raw material to provide the acetylcholine.
02:19:25.000And the other neurotransmitters fall more along the lines of the GPC choline, where you're just providing the raw nutrients to allow the body to take the steps to produce those raw nutrients and turn those into the neurotransmitters.
02:19:51.000And 5-HTP... is the direct precursor to serotonin and in the same way in that product by providing the raw nutrient that the body then converts into serotonin you create a surplus of serotonin without having to take any other kind of prescription drugs and there's actually a cool study on that front to illustrate the point there's actually been a bit more research on the serotonin effect because of the massive Amounts of SSRI and prescription drugs in that field.
02:20:21.000There's been a good amount of study done on 5-HTP. Dr. Poldinger had a study in 1991 where he compared 5-HTP to fluvoxamine, which is a SSRI, and the study showed that the...
02:20:41.000And basically it showed that the 5-HTP dosage, which was 100 milligrams a few times a day, was equal to the fluvoxamine in efficacy, but far outpaced it as far as tolerance, just because the body was able to go through its natural process and create more of its serotonin.
02:20:59.000And the study turned out extremely positively.
02:21:02.000The problem is that there's no patent available on 5-HTP. So, you know, everybody can go out and get it.
02:21:20.000Well, his doctor told him to get off the 5-HTP and stay on the antidepressant because he said taking the 5-HTP is like taking a second antidepressant.
02:21:30.000So I said to him, I'm like, whoa, have you ever thought about just taking the 5-HTP? Is that possible?
02:21:35.000Because it seems like that might be the better move than to have to get a prescription for some shit.
02:21:40.000You can get 5-HTP at a fucking GNC store in the middle of Omaha, Nebraska.
02:22:08.000I mean, how can you say something for everybody?
02:22:11.000But in the people studied, in the many studies that they've done, 5-HTP has shown a dramatic improvement in those And the new mood is mixed with L-tryptophan as well.
02:22:23.000So the chain reaction goes, L-tryptophan converts to 5-HTP, and then 5-HTP converts to 5-HT, which is actually serotonin.
02:22:32.000If you ingested pure 5-HT, the body would destroy it and it wouldn't get anywhere.
02:22:36.000But following it through the chain, the body's able to do that, especially with the help of vitamin B6, pyridoxine.
02:22:42.000It's able to kind of complete that chain reaction of L-tryptophan to becoming 5-HTP to becoming serotonin.
02:22:49.000So NuMood is pretty unique in that it has both L-tryptophan and 5-HTP as well as the catalyst vitamin B6. So while I'd love to study this in the future, the theory behind it being that we're creating both a more immediate transition between the 5-HTP to 5-HT and then a longer term transition between the L-tryptophan and To the 5-HTP to the 5-HT. So kind of providing a further spectrum along the chain.
02:23:15.000And then we also combine it with a bunch of anxiolytic herbs, herbs to kind of relax you and, you know, help you help with insomnia.
02:23:23.000One of our herbs, valerian, actually has a similar study.
02:23:25.000The study done by Dr. Poldinger is comparing it to an over-the-counter, not an over-the-prescription drug called oxypasm, which is in the same category of a benzo.
02:23:39.000And it compared valerian to oxypazin with the similar results to the 5-HTP study being that valerian had the same anxiolytic insomnia reducing effects but without the negative side effects of that.
02:23:51.000So that's another powerful herb in the combination and a few others as well just to kind of ease your body into a state of relaxation and positive neurotransmitter boosting fundamentals.
02:24:04.000Homeboy had another question, and this was the same dude, this James MMA guy.
02:24:08.000I think he had a really good point about...
02:24:10.000He's saying that your claim is that alpha brain enhances memory focus, mental speed, and mental drive.
02:24:17.000And he said, can we rename mental drive to motivation?
02:24:22.000First of all, mental drive is like, God, how subjective is that?
02:24:46.000Alright, now he's kind of being nitpicky.
02:24:48.000Well, the dream effect is something that a lot of our, you know, the takers really enjoy.
02:24:53.000And that's caused by, you know, I think I mentioned this in the last time, but that's caused by acetylcholine being the regulator of the REM state.
02:25:00.000So, with more acetylcholine, you have a deeper and broader REM state, and REM being the dream state, you're able to access longer periods of that dreaming unconsciousness, so to speak, and also have more of a chance of turning those dreams lucid because of the breadth of the dream state that you're in, and also waking up during one of those states in which you will remember your dreams a lot better than if you wake up during one of the really deep, slow-wave, non-dreaming sleeps.
02:25:27.000Is this theoretical or is this actually proven?
02:25:29.000As far as waking up during REM sleep, they've proven that dreams happen during REM sleep.
02:25:35.000And they've proven that when you wake up during an REM sleep, you're more likely to remember your dreams than when you wake up during slow waves.
02:25:42.000And how does acetylcholine play into that, though?
02:25:46.000Was it proven it has an effect on dreams?
02:25:48.000Your cycles are regulated by the brain unconsciously as it goes through.
02:26:30.000The latest I'll take it would be around 3, 4 o'clock because there is a kind of a stimulatory effect from the acetylcholine as well.
02:26:38.000And REM is not the deepest part of your sleep.
02:26:40.000It's actually one of the lighter parts.
02:26:42.000So I do like to take it a little bit earlier.
02:26:46.000I still get that dream kind of, the wild dream boost where I'm You know, like the other night where I was pulling a hammerhead shark out of a swimming pool and doing a variety of different crazy things, I still get that boost taking it early in the day.
02:26:59.000And I think a lot of people will as well, but I would recommend that more than anything.
02:27:04.000And then taking something like the New Mood, you would take that at night to kind of relax you and still make sure you're getting the most out of the restorative parts of your sleep as well.
02:27:11.000To me, it seems like my dreams aren't so cool when I'm tired.
02:27:47.000You're not as needy when you're sleeping.
02:27:48.000Yeah, your body might be pushing you into more deeper restorative, kind of physically restorative sleep when you're in that kind of rundown state.
02:27:56.000In which case you aren't having, even with the alpha brain present, you aren't having that kind of length of REM and breadth of REM sleep.
02:28:03.000So one of the things this guy is saying is sometimes, just as something I do know via my own studies in neuroscience, the vast majority of people do not have a particular deficiency in acetylcholine, dopamine, or GABA. Well, there's certainly different theories on that.
02:28:21.000I mean, I think in the optimal state of being with perfect diet, perfect sleep, good health, good workouts, and all of that, probably you're optimally functioning.
02:28:30.000Does that mean that going above optimal functioning is okay from time to time and actually has some benefit and value?
02:28:45.000We're trying to give people You know, a feeling, a boost that can help them, you know, function and maneuver and accomplish their goals, whatever varied they may be.
02:28:53.000So, you know, I think that, A, I do think that a lot of people are a little bit run down.
02:28:58.000And I know I rely on Dr. Braverman of the Princeton Brain Bio Lab.
02:29:03.000He did a lot of work there and he's doing a lot of active work now.
02:29:06.000As the basis for kind of my thinking on this, but he did a bunch of tests on me, and I'm a fairly healthy dude.
02:29:11.000I eat well, and I do my best to stay in shape, but all of my levels of neurotransmitters were actually depressed below.
02:29:18.000And before I went to see him, I'd been doing a little partying.
02:29:22.000He was in New York, so I saw some buddies in New York, went out to the bars.
02:29:25.000And, you know, it made sense to me that my neurotransmitters were functioning at a lower level at that point because I could feel it.
02:29:42.000And I think a lot of people operate on that, you know, just by the lifestyles that they live.
02:29:47.000They operate in this state where they're under a lot of stress and they're under a lot of, you know, different things like caffeine and alcohol and these things that are causing adrenaline and different...
02:29:59.000Different functionality to happen so that there are more people who have at least temporary deficiencies in a lot of these neurotransmitters.
02:30:06.000And then for the people who don't, getting this extra boost might just be a little bit over the top.
02:30:12.000Well, how many people actually get it actually tested?
02:30:15.000I get uncomfortable when someone says that the majority of people don't have a particular deficiency in acetylcholine.
02:30:21.000The majority of people aren't tested for acetylcholine deficiencies.
02:30:47.000I mean, but there are certainly a lot of healthy people, and they may have adequate levels, but it still doesn't invalidate the point of having an alpha brain.
02:30:57.000I still do think that you can feel even better.
02:31:00.000I mean, these are nutrients that are going to drive you in a certain direction.
02:31:03.000So, you know, there's kind of both sides of the coin there, I guess, depending on how you look at it.
02:31:07.000And here's the subtle yet cunty last question that he has.
02:31:11.000I'm curious as to why it took so long to answer this question, given that you answered questions before and I asked this one, before I asked this one and questions after, when it should be the easiest question for you to answer.
02:31:49.000I appreciate all the challenges that people have.
02:31:53.000I think it's good to think about all these things.
02:31:56.000As much criticism as I get personally and as on it gets, I think ultimately if you take what you may call the crunchiness out of it, there's this real reflection on yourself that you can take a gaze at.
02:32:10.000It's like fighters who either train with people who all love you and care about you.
02:32:14.000You go with savages that want to Kill you and take your head off.
02:32:18.000Well, you'll learn more from the savages.
02:32:20.000You'll learn different things about yourself, holes in your game and weaknesses.
02:32:25.000I think actually, even talking to you, it's not an easy thing to learn, but learning to just take the meat of the criticism and try and not take the barbs of it.
02:32:48.000Because I don't personally think it needs to be that way.
02:32:51.000I think the product stands on its own and I think the subject is very interesting.
02:32:54.000And what I always tell people on the program is just look into nootropics.
02:32:58.000I mean, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to have you address some of the shit that's been said and let people know there's no evidence whatsoever that any of this stuff is dangerous, right?
02:33:35.000Roll-On kind of got divided into two aspects.
02:33:38.000It was trying to do too many things at once.
02:33:39.000So the Shroom Tech Sport provides that kind of energy element, and then the Shroom Tech Immune provides the health element that was the second component.
02:33:47.000So that's kind of been divided into two.
02:33:56.000And when you have anything that they can criticize, anything, any weakness in the link that they can point to and go, oh, he sells fucking alpha nails.
02:34:42.000Some of the fighters say that, you know, they put it on their toes because if they've been stomped in the toe and their nail is going to fall off, it'll hide that potential damage.
02:37:08.000Like with food items, any of the grocery items, you can have it so it sets every month just to automatically send you certain items like I did with coconut water and stuff like that.
02:38:20.000This is a guy that doesn't know about me or anything.
02:38:23.000This is just a creepy guy, because he does it to a lot of girls.
02:38:26.000And you look at his Twitter, and he's just like this angry, like, man, what if I... Maybe he's waiting for a chick to say, yeah, come fucking rape the shit out of me, son.
02:38:38.000Wouldn't it be cool to have your own internet?
02:42:00.000you know so they can do that somehow or another they get into your account like if you i don't know what you have to do but there must be some legal way they're doing it because it can't be as simple as they get your password because they don't seem to be sending a bunch of other shit out with it it's just this one tweet that keeps repeating about you know sign up for an ipad too that seems to be the one that everybody gets ganked with well that's a money market they probably just have the most machines pointed at hacking how do they do that how are they getting are they
02:42:30.000Getting your Password generators probably.
02:42:33.000See the password generators and you click on a link and you're not logged in and you log in by mistake.
02:42:39.000Someone hits you with like a keystroke tracker, some other more devious virus like that, but usually it's just kind of password generators.
02:42:46.000Those are complicated passwords are important.
02:42:48.000Are those that common keystroke generators?
02:43:14.000There was a program they found running in the background of droids that was storing every single stroke that you made, every number that you dialed, every word that you sent a text message, and sending it to a database somewhere.
02:44:01.000But she was asking me these other questions of technology around her house, and she goes, how much would I have to pay just to get Wi-Fi in my house?
02:45:38.000And then the young people have to move into a position of power where they kind of...
02:45:42.000Grow up with the internet and grow up with a better understanding of how they're perceived and how the world works and how things don't have to be as greedy and fucked up and corrupt as they are.
02:45:52.000Halliburton didn't have to make that much money.
02:45:53.000Enron didn't have to make that much money.
02:45:56.000So much of what happened didn't have to happen.
02:45:58.000So much of the money that changed hands and so much of the transactions that transpired, they weren't necessary.
02:46:12.000And I think that this talk of the return of Quetzalcoatl, the new type of man that's going to change things, I think really what that may be is just the movement.
02:46:20.000And I think we're all part of that kind of new person that's arriving, that new consciousness that's creating itself.
02:46:27.000And I think there will be leaders that will emerge from that movement.
02:46:30.000But the movement itself is what's key.
02:46:32.000All of us who are, you know, playing our part, kind of expanding, you know, what we're open to in our beliefs and both riding that balance between skepticism and an open mind, you know, have to be, you have to have both and you have to have, have that kind of truth seeking aspect to yourself to know.
02:46:48.000You know, find the ways between that psyllid and charybdis of the skepticism and the, you know, too open and naivete and find where the truth lies.
02:46:57.000And I think that's going to be the key trait of what we need to do here going forward.
02:47:02.000And that's going to create the movement that will inspire the leaders, hopefully.
02:47:06.000I just hope it stays together in some form.
02:47:09.000I hope we don't have to rebuild civilization because that would fucking suck.
02:47:13.000Because I live around too many dummies.
02:47:15.000There's just too many dummies out there to just rely on the people that are at hand right now and have some sort of an even vote and have everything work right.
02:47:38.000Yes, we don't need anything fucking traumatic.
02:47:41.000But the more we do preemptively, like the more you go out there and push aggressively now, the better that's going to be.
02:47:47.000If we just kind of let things happen, that snowball comes crashing hard.
02:47:50.000But if we're out there pushing now, like we're doing here on the podcast, playing our small part, everybody else playing their small part to open their consciousness, open their friend's consciousness, and find that truth, then hopefully it'll fall a little less hard when it actually comes to crash.
02:48:05.000Listen, Aubrey, you got a lot of haters on my message board.
02:48:07.000One of the reasons is because you changed your fucking name to Aubrey.
02:48:10.000The other is because you're a little bit too handsome and dudes don't like that.
02:48:49.000We appreciate you, even the fucking haters.
02:48:51.000As we said, without you, we would not have that Harsh, brutal criticism that sometimes makes you really see things from a different perspective.
02:49:20.000I didn't say that that smoothly, but we know what the fuck I'm trying to cross.
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02:50:33.000The thing about the iTunes that's the most satisfying to us is that everybody told us that you shouldn't have your shit on Stitcher, you shouldn't have your shit on Ustream, you shouldn't have your shit on Vimeo, because then it'll affect your iTunes numbers.
02:50:46.000The fact that we have the number one podcast in the comedy section of iTunes on top of all that other stuff that we do, having it out there in the app, having it as an RSS feed, just means you guys are enjoying it, and that means the fucking world to me, and I could not be happier.
02:51:10.000People that haven't known, Josh Gross, is that his name?
02:51:12.000Yeah, from ESPN. Yeah, we just released that episode yesterday on the Death Squad label, but it's very interesting.
02:51:18.000Yeah, we talked to him a little bit about how he can't say that he smokes weed, and that he fucked up when he released the information for The Ultimate Fighter.