The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1689 - Yannis Pappas

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00:00:11.000 Hey, Giannis Papas!

00:00:13.000 How you doing, my friend?

00:00:14.000 Good, how you doing?

00:00:15.000 How am I doing good?

00:00:16.000 Good, good to see you again.

00:00:17.000 Good to see you too, brother.

00:00:18.000 What's crackalackin'? 0.56

00:00:19.000 Not much, man.

00:00:20.000 Just, you know, trying to dodge this delta. 0.99

00:00:23.000 Yeah, or the gamma, or whatever the fuck. 0.98

00:00:25.000 The gamma, the rays, yeah. 0.98

00:00:26.000 The delta, the alpha.

00:00:27.000 It's wild out there.

00:00:28.000 Yeah.

00:00:28.000 It's wild out there.

00:00:29.000 It's wild, yeah.

00:00:30.000 It's hard to know what's right and what's wrong.

00:00:32.000 Some people say, don't worry about it.

00:00:34.000 The Delta is less dangerous, but more contagious.

00:00:37.000 And then some people say, no, no, no, no.

00:00:38.000 People are getting really sick.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:41.000 Vaccinated people are getting sick. 1.00

00:00:42.000 In Europe, not in Europe, in Israel, there was a study that was released.

00:00:46.000 It was something like, you know, they're like the most vaccinated country.

00:00:50.000 Israel is, apparently.

00:00:51.000 I think they have somewhat close to, I'll read it here.

00:00:54.000 I think it's close to like 90% of the people have been vaccinated.

00:00:58.000 And so now they have a lot of people that are in the hospital that are vaccinated.

00:01:04.000 Yeah, because I guess the more people that get vaccinated, the more people will have those breakthrough infections.

00:01:11.000 What I love about now is, like, I have an opinion on it.

00:01:14.000 80%.

00:01:14.000 80% of all COVID patients are previously vaccinated in the hospital.

00:01:18.000 Wow, I thought that was, like, corrected to, like, 40%.

00:01:21.000 It's right there.

00:01:23.000 If it's on the phone, it's got to be true.

00:01:24.000 Must be!

00:01:25.000 Must be!

00:01:26.000 True at this point, yeah.

00:01:27.000 Is it Fauci approved?

00:01:28.000 If it's Fauci approved, yeah, I don't know.

00:01:31.000 I mean, hey, if this thing comes back, just be podcasting.

00:01:35.000 Yeah, just lock down and have HEPA filters everywhere.

00:01:38.000 Yeah. 0.54

00:01:39.000 I mean, like March of 2020, I remember thinking, like, this could be some Mad Max, like Road Warrior type shit where the streets are empty and...

00:01:49.000 And then when they started looting, that was one of the things that really freaked me out, the looting in L.A. When no one was doing anything about it, when they're smashing windows and running into stores and stealing clothes and shit. 0.95

00:01:57.000 Yeah. 0.84

00:01:58.000 Yeah.

00:01:59.000 And who knows?

00:02:00.000 That could come back.

00:02:01.000 That could come back again.

00:02:01.000 Round two.

00:02:02.000 Oh, for sure.

00:02:02.000 Just like me coming back here.

00:02:03.000 Ding, ding.

00:02:04.000 Round two.

00:02:04.000 It's not likely going to happen around here.

00:02:07.000 There's far too many firearms.

00:02:09.000 Yes.

00:02:09.000 This is the good thing about overarmed places.

00:02:13.000 Yeah.

00:02:14.000 They're not good places to loot.

00:02:16.000 No, I bet you there's a lot of people who are on the left who are rethinking the Second Amendment and their view on it just because of the context that's changed.

00:02:23.000 Yeah.

00:02:23.000 My own friends.

00:02:24.000 Yeah.

00:02:24.000 Friends that were very anti-gun were asking me to borrow guns.

00:02:28.000 When the shit started hitting the fan in L.A., They were asking to borrow guns and I was like you can't borrow a gun if you shoot someone with the borrowed gun I am in trouble right right and especially in LA because there's weird laws like I don't even think you're allowed to shoot someone in your home unless you're in danger and then you have to prove that you're in danger Yeah, 0.97

00:02:47.000 then you have to apologize for whatever part of the systematic problem you contributed to why this person broke into your house. 0.99

00:02:54.000 Oh, I didn't think about that.

00:02:55.000 I think you have to do that in court.

00:02:56.000 Yeah, you got to stand up and say, you know what, I'm sorry.

00:02:58.000 Depends on who you are, but you got to say, I'm sorry for contributing to whatever historical factors...

00:03:02.000 Have led to this crime.

00:03:04.000 Maybe you can fly a couple of inclusive flags outside your house.

00:03:07.000 That's actually part of what you gotta do.

00:03:09.000 Have you seen the new flag?

00:03:11.000 There's a new pride flag? 0.62

00:03:13.000 I got them all out there.

00:03:14.000 I got Black Lives Matter.

00:03:15.000 I have a rainbow flag.

00:03:17.000 I got it all.

00:03:17.000 Rainbow's not enough anymore.

00:03:18.000 It's like a new security system.

00:03:20.000 I'm like, whatever.

00:03:21.000 I'm just like, hey man, this property is whatever.

00:03:24.000 I'm whatever you want me to be.

00:03:26.000 If you don't burn it. 0.68

00:03:27.000 But then if they come in, I did buy a gun.

00:03:29.000 Did you?

00:03:30.000 I got a gun, yeah.

00:03:30.000 What kind of guns you got?

00:03:31.000 It's a.22, I think I have to say it like that, rifle, yeah.

00:03:34.000 You got a.22, are you shooting squirrels?

00:03:36.000 No, I'm not shooting squirrels, I'm just shooting, I've gone to the range a few times.

00:03:40.000 Yeah, but why do you have such a low caliber rifle?

00:03:43.000 I knew, that's why I felt bad even bringing it up in front of you. 1.00

00:03:46.000 It's like taking my dick out when it's limp. 1.00

00:03:49.000 Right after you got out of the shower, cold shower. 1.00

00:03:52.000 But why such a low caliber?

00:03:54.000 Because I'm a beginner, man. 0.68

00:03:57.000 I'm not going to try to rear naked choke you if we start rolling around. 1.00

00:04:01.000 I'm going to try to squeeze your dick or something. 1.00

00:04:03.000 I'm inexperienced. 1.00

00:04:04.000 The best gun for self-defense, for home invasion type shit, is a shotgun. 0.99

00:04:09.000 Because you don't have to be that specific. 0.99

00:04:11.000 You know, shotguns, they have like a big wide spray.

00:04:15.000 As Bill Burst said, it's got a spray head.

00:04:17.000 Is that what he says?

00:04:18.000 He had that joke where he goes, you got to get shotguns, it has a spray head!

00:04:21.000 It sprays!

00:04:22.000 Well, that's why they made it illegal to have a sawed-off shotgun.

00:04:25.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 Because a sawed-off shotgun, you essentially can spray a whole room.

00:04:29.000 Right.

00:04:29.000 You know, it spreads out.

00:04:31.000 I picture, like, probably your home.

00:04:33.000 Is your home, like, 007, where there's just, like, a hidden gun in every room?

00:04:36.000 And you're just, like, if someone comes in, you're rolling around.

00:04:38.000 I have just given to me, not the guns that I bought, but been given to me, 13 guns since I moved here.

00:04:45.000 Wow.

00:04:46.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 You want to make that 14?

00:04:47.000 It's an odd number.

00:04:48.000 It's unlucky 13. I don't think it is.

00:04:50.000 You think it's lucky?

00:04:51.000 I like 13. Yeah.

00:04:51.000 I've always been a fan of 13. Yeah.

00:04:54.000 But it's crazy.

00:04:55.000 These people out here just give you guns. 0.99

00:04:57.000 Yeah.

00:04:58.000 That's like a welcome gift, right?

00:05:02.000 So I have a safe.

00:05:03.000 I have a couple gun safes.

00:05:04.000 It's just weird.

00:05:06.000 The gun thing is weird.

00:05:07.000 Because I like going to the range.

00:05:11.000 I find it...

00:05:13.000 It's somewhat oddly relaxing to point and shoot, you know, as long as you have earmuffs on, you're protecting your ears and eye goggles, and you know what you're doing, you're following gun safety protocol.

00:05:25.000 I like it.

00:05:26.000 I like practicing.

00:05:27.000 It's like Yelga. 0.89

00:05:28.000 I don't want to shoot anybody.

00:05:29.000 It's definitely not like Yelga.

00:05:31.000 It's similar to archery in a lot of ways.

00:05:33.000 Well, the way you described it is very calming, yeah.

00:05:36.000 It is calming, though.

00:05:37.000 There's something about it because you're concentrating on focusing.

00:05:40.000 You're in the moment.

00:05:41.000 You're not thinking about anything.

00:05:43.000 So it is kind of oddly spiritual.

00:05:46.000 Yeah.

00:05:46.000 Have you gone to gun ranges before?

00:05:47.000 I have gone, yeah.

00:05:48.000 They're fun, right?

00:05:49.000 They're fun, but you're right.

00:05:50.000 When I rolled in, I rolled in with my buddy Paul Verzi because we got the guns at the same time.

00:05:54.000 It's a funny story.

00:05:54.000 He bought a gun.

00:05:55.000 Did he get a.22 as well?

00:05:56.000 He got a.22.

00:05:56.000 We got them together.

00:05:57.000 Did you guys kiss while you were buying them?

00:05:59.000 No, but...

00:06:01.000 We clapped guns like that.

00:06:05.000 But the guy, we went to Dick's, because the pandemic was starting, much like you were seeing all these images on screen, and we lived close to each other.

00:06:13.000 And he was like, let's go get a gun.

00:06:15.000 And he didn't tell his wife.

00:06:17.000 Oh, boy.

00:06:17.000 So he went in, and all the guns were cleared out.

00:06:20.000 And this is New York, so people were arming up.

00:06:23.000 And the things that were left with these rifles and the guy behind the counter goes, this is a good starter gun.

00:06:28.000 So he made us feel like a little, he's like this, I think he called it a beginner gun.

00:06:32.000 And then we were both like, no, no, you know, give us something.

00:06:36.000 We're not beginners.

00:06:37.000 We try to play it off.

00:06:38.000 Like I shoot all the time, you know, I shoot people.

00:06:45.000 So we ended up, he's like, you know, because we felt like we were buying BB guns when he said that.

00:06:49.000 Right.

00:06:49.000 But yeah, then he walked us upstairs.

00:06:52.000 In New York, you can't have the gun and the ammo in the trunk together.

00:06:56.000 You have to have the ammo in the car and the gun in the back.

00:06:58.000 So he walked us up and put them in his trunk.

00:07:01.000 Yeah.

00:07:01.000 And then we drove him home and he told his wife he bought a gum.

00:07:05.000 His wife was pretty pissed. 1.00

00:07:06.000 Was she?

00:07:06.000 Yeah, because he didn't tell her.

00:07:08.000 It's a pretty big purchase.

00:07:10.000 It's not like Texas where you're born and they cut the umbilical cord and then they put your hand in a gun.

00:07:16.000 Is the wife opposed to it or did she just want to be informed?

00:07:19.000 She wanted to be informed.

00:07:20.000 She wanted to be part of it.

00:07:20.000 That's reasonable.

00:07:22.000 If she ever saw a.22 go off, she'd be like, oh, shoot me in the foot. 1.00

00:07:28.000 Go ahead, shoot me with that thing. 1.00

00:07:29.000 I didn't tell my wife either. 0.98

00:07:31.000 I told her I was going out to get watermelons because we were having a party.

00:07:34.000 So I came back just holding a watermelon and a gun.

00:07:36.000 And she was like, what?

00:07:37.000 I was like, yeah, I got a gun.

00:07:39.000 But my wife's from Long Island, so she was, her and her family were very happy that I got a gun.

00:07:43.000 That's different.

00:07:44.000 Long Island's a different animal.

00:07:45.000 Long Island's, yeah.

00:07:46.000 Long Island's like a colony of...

00:07:48.000 Kentucky.

00:07:48.000 Kentucky, yeah.

00:07:52.000 You go, it's just a different accent, but they say the same.

00:07:54.000 They're like, what, Virus? 0.99

00:07:56.000 What, are you crazy?

00:07:56.000 I really love Long Island.

00:07:57.000 I've always loved performing out there.

00:07:59.000 But it's always been a thing.

00:08:00.000 Like, when I lived in the city, I didn't live in the city.

00:08:03.000 I lived in New Rochelle.

00:08:03.000 But when I would travel, like, what if I do gigs in the city?

00:08:06.000 Is that your watch going off?

00:08:07.000 How dare you? 0.99

00:08:08.000 I'm fucking sorry, dude. 0.98

00:08:10.000 When I was living in New York and I would do gigs in Long Island, people that, like, worked in the city all the time would treat gigs on Long Island like, you might as well be going to Oklahoma. 0.96

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:20.000 What are you doing?

00:08:21.000 You're traveling to Long Island to do comedy?

00:08:23.000 You can do comedy right here.

00:08:24.000 Why would you do that when you can work in the city?

00:08:27.000 Yeah.

00:08:27.000 It's a different demographic, different politics, different personality.

00:08:31.000 They don't leave there.

00:08:32.000 So it's kind of like going to another country because they're unaware of what's going on in the city.

00:08:37.000 They don't go to the city.

00:08:38.000 If they come in, they go to Peter Luger's.

00:08:40.000 They go to Peter Luger's, yeah.

00:08:41.000 Or they go out in Brooklyn and that's like going out in the city.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, we're going to the city.

00:08:46.000 We're going to Brooklyn.

00:08:47.000 We're going to Bay Ridge.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, we're going out there in Bay Ridge.

00:08:49.000 You know, it's a nice place there.

00:08:50.000 Yeah.

00:08:52.000 Brooklyn's an odd duck too.

00:08:53.000 When we do UFC's in Brooklyn, I'm always like, wow, there's no place like this place.

00:08:57.000 That's where I'm from.

00:08:58.000 So interesting.

00:08:59.000 Yeah.

00:08:59.000 It's like pre-pandemic, I don't know what it's like now because I had Hamilton Morris on.

00:09:05.000 He's from Hamilton's Pharmacopoeia.

00:09:07.000 He's a drug expert.

00:09:08.000 He's a really fascinating guy.

00:09:10.000 But he was telling me it's very dark. 0.99

00:09:11.000 He's like, I go running and he goes, and there's like dog shit everywhere because no one's picking up their dog shit and stacks of garbage. 0.99

00:09:18.000 And like all the public utilities have kind of laxed. 0.98

00:09:21.000 So a lot of the garbage pickup is not as good as it used to be.

00:09:24.000 And he goes, and it's kind of dangerous.

00:09:26.000 It's like, it's not what it used to be just a year and a half ago.

00:09:28.000 I was just telling Jamie before, it's like, it's starting to feel like the Brooklyn that I grew up in.

00:09:33.000 You're starting to hear crimes that are similar to the ones from the 80s, which were just like, wilding kids.

00:09:39.000 I remember there was just like, wilding kids.

00:09:41.000 I remember that, the term wilding.

00:09:43.000 They used to call them wilding kids, like feral kids, wilding kids, and it was true. 0.99

00:09:47.000 There'd be just like a pack of kids.

00:09:49.000 You'd turn a corner, there was kids there, you were just like, you just took your hat off and gave it to them.

00:09:55.000 Took your Nautica jacket off and you like folded it up for him like you were gift wrapping at Macy's and just handed it.

00:10:01.000 And you were robbed and there was just packs of kids.

00:10:04.000 And recently this off-duty firefighter was attacked by like 40 kids who were just like...

00:10:09.000 Is that the guy with the dog?

00:10:10.000 He was with the dog, yeah.

00:10:11.000 That was in a park?

00:10:12.000 Yeah, Queens. 1.00

00:10:13.000 What was the story behind that?

00:10:15.000 The story was just Wildin' kids.

00:10:17.000 They just did it to be Wildin', yeah.

00:10:20.000 I think they screamed...

00:10:21.000 The slogans they were saying were kind of like that.

00:10:23.000 It's fight night.

00:10:24.000 It's just like... 0.98

00:10:25.000 They beat the fuck out of that poor guy. 1.00

00:10:27.000 Beat the fuck out of the kid. 1.00

00:10:28.000 I have a cop who lives close to me where I live, and he was on the plainclothes unit that they kind of disbanded, which was stupid, and now he's doing something else. 1.00

00:10:40.000 He's like, look, cops, Their morale is down. 0.97

00:10:43.000 They don't want to do it.

00:10:44.000 Everyone hates them.

00:10:45.000 They don't want to risk it.

00:10:46.000 Somebody starts running, they're like, I'm not going to chase this guy.

00:10:49.000 Because he turns around, he throws a camera on, or he reaches for something.

00:10:54.000 They don't want to deal with it.

00:10:55.000 And they feel like everyone hates them right now.

00:10:57.000 So it's like, that's scary.

00:10:59.000 Like if you call 9-1-1 and they just like take their time because they're not...

00:11:03.000 Yeah.

00:11:04.000 They feel like, am I going to be received when I'm...

00:11:07.000 Right.

00:11:07.000 Or is there going to be someone going, hey, what you doing?

00:11:10.000 What you doing?

00:11:11.000 Yeah.

00:11:12.000 You know?

00:11:12.000 Yeah.

00:11:12.000 Their morale's down.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 There's a lot of that going on.

00:11:16.000 And I don't know how that gets fixed in any short period of time.

00:11:20.000 I think that's a long-term recovery project, if at all.

00:11:24.000 Like it's real weird because I've never seen such a dip in our society before.

00:11:29.000 During this pandemic and some of its understandable, but some of it is like it's a Perception the the perception of the police the perception of society at large.

00:11:38.000 It's very different than it's ever been before I think it has a lot to do with us adapting to the internet like And technology.

00:11:48.000 It's fairly new, and everyone's getting their information from charismatic people who want to be on camera, where it's like the really smart, nuanced people, like those old school mob bosses who were, you know, you get caught if you're flaunting yourself John Gotti style, but like,

00:12:03.000 you know, the people who were behind the scenes, like, Doctors, politicians, like, those are the people who are in it, doing it.

00:12:11.000 And, you know, we used to have Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrows, and now we got guys just going up there on the internet, like, with their phone and making these categorical, like, charismatic statements and people that are really, like, kind of, they're simplified and just really,

00:12:29.000 like, generalized, and people are just following them.

00:12:32.000 And now we've become, like, two full countries...

00:12:35.000 That hate each other.

00:12:36.000 It used to be like, you know, at a time of war or something, you kind of, you came together a little bit to support whoever the guy is in office.

00:12:44.000 Now it's like, there's people who wouldn't support Biden at all, no matter what.

00:12:47.000 I mean, even if, like, China was storming Malibu and, like, you know, set up their captain quarters in Reese Witherspoon's, like, beach home, we'd still be, like, hating each other and, like, we're so disjointed and disunified. 0.63

00:13:02.000 And I think it's because we're online.

00:13:04.000 I think that's a big part of it and I also think what you're saying about people being charismatic is very true that these charismatic influential people that are getting attention from posting outrageous things online constantly posting things about either the left or the right like how pathetic they are and how foolish they are and how arrogant they are and and just making these really polarized teams I don't subscribe

00:13:34.000 to that. 0.99

00:13:34.000 I know you don't subscribe to that kind of shit. 0.99

00:13:36.000 It's dumb. 1.00

00:13:36.000 There's great people on both sides. 1.00

00:13:38.000 There's people that have a lot of opinions that I don't agree with at all, but then I agree with them on many things.

00:13:44.000 And I like to just treat people like people and think of their ideas as individuals or individual ideas.

00:13:50.000 I don't want a collective group of ideas that I have to subscribe to.

00:13:53.000 I think that's a real problem with people, whether you're on the left or the right.

00:13:56.000 You could predict.

00:13:58.000 If you can ask someone, Real specific questions like, how do you feel about gun control?

00:14:03.000 How do you feel about the Second Amendment?

00:14:04.000 Do you think it's important?

00:14:05.000 Their answer can tell you how they feel about abortion, how they feel about immigration, how they feel about whether the election was valid.

00:14:13.000 It's just go down the line with one question.

00:14:15.000 It's wild.

00:14:16.000 Yeah, and it's sad.

00:14:18.000 It's sad, because you should, like you said, I mean, it's like, the Second Amendment is totally different from abortion, totally different from gay marriage, and like, it's sad that you can ask one question, you can predict, and with probably a great deal of accuracy, what those people are going to say based on that one Answer because they've drawn their lines and they're towing this line now and people are so far apart. 0.53

00:14:40.000 And then you're right, when you speak to them in person and have a long conversation with them, you find out even though they may lean on this side or lean on that side, most people are pretty reasonable.

00:14:48.000 You know, they care about their family, they care about their money.

00:14:50.000 You know, and politics used to be about that. 1.00

00:14:52.000 Hey, it's the money, stupid, or whatever that expression was. 1.00

00:14:55.000 Like, it's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:14:57.000 Because whether you were on the right or the left, at the end of the day, you're about yourself. 1.00

00:15:02.000 Yeah, I think one big point about what you're saying about these influential people, too, is they benefit from strife.

00:15:10.000 They benefit from conflict.

00:15:12.000 And so instead of uniters like Martin Luther King Jr., you have the opposite.

00:15:16.000 You have people that literally benefit from people being divided.

00:15:20.000 They benefit from calling people out or Yelling people down or, you know, getting conflict going.

00:15:29.000 Like, that gets them more views.

00:15:30.000 I mean, that's what's going on with Facebook.

00:15:32.000 That's what the algorithms that people are complaining about that are literally accelerating our path towards some sort of civil war.

00:15:39.000 Yeah.

00:15:39.000 Did you see the social dilemma?

00:15:40.000 I did see the social dilemma. 1.00

00:15:42.000 Scary shit, right? 1.00

00:15:43.000 Scary shit. 1.00

00:15:43.000 And I tell you what I was watching, actually, on the plane was this... 1.00

00:15:46.000 Do you remember the Duke lacrosse players?

00:15:48.000 Yes.

00:15:48.000 Do you remember that story?

00:15:49.000 Yes.

00:15:50.000 Explain it to people.

00:15:50.000 Oh, dude, the Duke lacrosse players.

00:15:52.000 So, the whole media...

00:15:53.000 I had kind of indicted these guys And they loaded this story with, you know, class and race.

00:16:01.000 Explain the story to people.

00:16:01.000 It was a bunch of lacrosse players.

00:16:03.000 They had a party, right?

00:16:04.000 A bunch of guys had a party at their house. 0.95

00:16:06.000 Yeah, they're uppity white guys. 0.57

00:16:08.000 They play lacrosse. 0.90

00:16:09.000 So it's like nobody comes from the ghetto and plays lacrosse. 0.97

00:16:12.000 So you know that they're arrogant white guys who probably, you know, their father may have like a third. 0.78

00:16:17.000 They definitely have a portrait in the foyer of like, this is my uncle. 0.96

00:16:21.000 His ties go back to England or whatever. 0.88

00:16:22.000 So they're douches. 0.81

00:16:23.000 We get it. 0.94

00:16:24.000 But, um...

00:16:26.000 They had a party and somebody hired some strippers. 1.00

00:16:29.000 And the strippers that came were like two POCs. 1.00

00:16:33.000 They were POC. A lot of people listening are like...

00:16:37.000 POCs are people who historically disenfranchised a little darker melanin tones.

00:16:44.000 People of color. 0.52

00:16:45.000 People of color.

00:16:48.000 And so they came, they stripped, but the girl, they only stripped for like five minutes, and the girl was saying weird stuff, and then they got mad.

00:16:56.000 The guys got mad because they felt like they were getting conned, that they didn't get their...

00:16:59.000 Their lap dance worth or whatever, their dancing worth.

00:17:02.000 And then something went awry.

00:17:04.000 And then the girl called the cops and said, I was assaulted.

00:17:07.000 And then from there, it became a big story.

00:17:10.000 And it ended up that the prosecutor was withholding exculpatory evidence that would have exonerated knowingly.

00:17:22.000 I mean, he ended up getting disbarred and doing time because of this.

00:17:26.000 And...

00:17:27.000 And you look back now and you're going like, that guy was doing exactly what online personalities do now.

00:17:32.000 It's like, this is good for me.

00:17:34.000 I'm in the spotlight. 0.97

00:17:35.000 I'm this hero convicting these douchebags.

00:17:38.000 The media's attaching this big social justice cause to it. 0.74

00:17:42.000 There's this evidence that clearly my client is lying.

00:17:45.000 Let's just put it to the side because all the attention's on me and this is self-aggrandizing for me.

00:17:50.000 So I'm benefit-forming.

00:17:51.000 I'll just lie and just, you know.

00:17:54.000 There's some evidence that comes that contradicts what I'm saying.

00:17:57.000 Let's just...

00:17:57.000 Because right now, I'm a star.

00:17:59.000 And so these kids were maligned by the media, all these journalists writing this horrible stuff about these kids, the culture of the lacrosse players, the privilege, the white privilege, this, that.

00:18:11.000 They did this to this poor black person, you know, and then it was loaded because of Durham, because you got Duke, and Duke is like the Harvard of the South, and then you got poor Durham. 0.99

00:18:21.000 And then it was all bullshit. 1.00

00:18:23.000 It was all bullshit. 1.00

00:18:25.000 The DNA exonerated the three kids that were on trial. 1.00

00:18:29.000 This girl had some mental health problems. 1.00

00:18:33.000 She ended up killing her boyfriend or something and is in prison a couple years later.

00:18:37.000 She was off.

00:18:40.000 A few journalists apologized, but by that time, it was like, you know, now you go to comedy clubs, the joke that comics tell the most, if they see five waspy-looking white guys, they're like, hey, you guys look like the Duke lacrosse player, that you use it as a pejorative.

00:18:55.000 So it doesn't matter if it's true, because the media made it true.

00:18:58.000 So a lot of people don't even know that they did nothing, because the narrative had already been written.

00:19:03.000 Right.

00:19:04.000 That's the problem.

00:19:05.000 That's the problem.

00:19:05.000 The problem is once the narrative gets out there, if there's some sort of a correction in the newspaper a couple weeks later, it's always on like the fourth page in the lower right hand corner.

00:19:17.000 Sorry.

00:19:17.000 The amendment to the story.

00:19:19.000 Yeah.

00:19:19.000 Turns out nobody raped anybody.

00:19:21.000 Whoops.

00:19:21.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 Sorry.

00:19:22.000 Sorry we ruined your life forever.

00:19:24.000 But we sold a lot of papers with that.

00:19:26.000 That is a real issue.

00:19:29.000 Here's a real question.

00:19:30.000 Should you be able to make money off the news?

00:19:35.000 It's a good question, man.

00:19:36.000 It's a good question.

00:19:37.000 Because if you can make money off the news, then all of a sudden the news becomes a show.

00:19:42.000 And the more outrageous you can get it, the more click-baity you can get it, the more you can sort of jazz up the headlines and distort the story, the more you're going to get people to tune in.

00:19:53.000 If it bleeds, it leads.

00:19:54.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 Let's go!

00:19:55.000 I remember when I was working for Fusion, which was like a short-lived company that was owned by Disney and Univision.

00:20:02.000 It lasted like a year.

00:20:03.000 It was totally like, they tried to build a big studio in Miami and They were trying to target millennials, but by that time, like, everything was on the phone.

00:20:10.000 People were watching you, and it was like, it was just a waste of money.

00:20:12.000 But I remember one of their slogans was like, start a fight.

00:20:16.000 And I was like, ah, yeah.

00:20:18.000 Because my two co-hosts were journalists, and it was run by journalists, and I was like the comedic guy that, you know, they had me in a corner, and they opened it up, and I came in, and I was like, ooh, ah!

00:20:27.000 To make people laugh, but...

00:20:30.000 But I was working with, like, a Peabody award-winning journalist, you know, Mariana Atencio and Pedro Andrade.

00:20:37.000 He was from Brazil, and they were two serious journalists.

00:20:41.000 And, you know, when the executive producer sat us down, I was like, pick a fight.

00:20:46.000 Always look to pick a fight. 0.98

00:20:47.000 And I'm like, that sucks. 1.00

00:20:49.000 That sucks. 0.99

00:20:51.000 Yeah, that should be happening in MMA with the matchmakers, not your news. 0.98

00:20:56.000 That's hard to hear.

00:20:57.000 Yeah.

00:20:58.000 Pick a fight.

00:20:59.000 Pick a fight.

00:21:00.000 Because it gets ratings.

00:21:01.000 People love the drama.

00:21:03.000 They love it.

00:21:04.000 I mean, if you turned on a real reality TV show, it would just be like a couple guys sitting around, you know?

00:21:10.000 Yeah.

00:21:10.000 Picking their nose, changing channels, but then...

00:21:12.000 If you make a reality, you're like, they tell you.

00:21:14.000 That's not reality.

00:21:15.000 They have line producers going, okay, call him the n-word now.

00:21:18.000 He's like, I don't want to call him the n-word.

00:21:20.000 They're like, no, trust me.

00:21:21.000 We'll figure out.

00:21:23.000 We'll bleep it out.

00:21:23.000 No one will know what you said.

00:21:25.000 Then they start with the n and lead with the r. 0.74

00:21:28.000 You're like, hey.

00:21:30.000 I bet you Puck was a really good guy.

00:21:32.000 I bet you they just edited it.

00:21:34.000 You remember Puck from Real World?

00:21:35.000 He was sticking his finger in peanut butter.

00:21:36.000 He was bullying Pedro.

00:21:38.000 He was a mess.

00:21:39.000 But the problem with those guys is that you make them more of a mess by shining the camera on them.

00:21:44.000 And then you make them famous.

00:21:45.000 Didn't he lose his marbles after he got off that show?

00:21:48.000 Because he was one of the most famous guys from the real world, other than Theo Vaughn.

00:21:52.000 Was he on Road Rules?

00:21:53.000 No.

00:21:54.000 Theo was on Road Rules, right?

00:21:55.000 No, Theo was in one of the houses.

00:21:58.000 He was in the real world?

00:21:59.000 He was, yeah.

00:22:00.000 He was on Road Rules, and then he was in The Challenge, which sort of is like the living experience at the house.

00:22:05.000 Oh, so it's two different.

00:22:06.000 He was on multiple shows.

00:22:07.000 Theo Vaughn.

00:22:08.000 Yeah.

00:22:09.000 He's the only dude probably to make it out of there.

00:22:11.000 100% and be legit.

00:22:13.000 Be legit. 0.97

00:22:13.000 Yeah, I mean he's a fucking legit comic. 0.97

00:22:16.000 He's a funny dude. 0.93

00:22:16.000 He's funny. 0.93

00:22:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:17.000 He's fucking funny. 0.99

00:22:18.000 That dude kills me. 0.99

00:22:20.000 And he's funny solo, which is not easy to do.

00:22:24.000 Oh dude, he's funny period.

00:22:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:26.000 He's a funny fucking comic and so original. 0.99

00:22:28.000 Like who's more unique than Theo Vaughn? 0.99

00:22:31.000 Like his style...

00:22:32.000 It's like comedy jazz.

00:22:33.000 Yeah!

00:22:35.000 It's like you're almost listening for the funny and the rhythm of it.

00:22:38.000 And it's also, it's got like an element of gonzo to it too.

00:22:41.000 Sort of like Joey Diaz.

00:22:42.000 Like you know he's lying about some of these things but you don't care.

00:22:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:46.000 It's like it's part of the fun.

00:22:47.000 Like a great Joey Diaz story, who knows what percentage of it is exaggeration or absolute falsehoods.

00:22:53.000 But you don't care.

00:22:54.000 You're there for the ride.

00:22:56.000 And that's with Theo. 0.99

00:22:57.000 My uncle got bit by a gay guy. 0.98

00:23:00.000 So, we'll see. 1.00

00:23:06.000 When he says that, you're like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:23:08.000 We'll see? 1.00

00:23:12.000 He's so funny, man.

00:23:14.000 Lying belongs with entertainers.

00:23:16.000 Yes.

00:23:16.000 But unfortunately now, like you said, these journalists have become entertainers.

00:23:19.000 They got their own brand.

00:23:20.000 They got their own Twitter feed.

00:23:21.000 They have their own gram.

00:23:22.000 Well, it makes them famous and it makes them wealthy.

00:23:25.000 I think there's a shining light to that.

00:23:31.000 There's a way out of this, and I think it's Substack. 1.00

00:23:35.000 A lot of these legitimate journalists are no longer with these papers that are interested in doing that, and they're gravitating towards Substack, and they have people pay for actual journalism.

00:23:47.000 And so there's a new wave of legit journalists on Substack that are just people subscribed to it, and they can choose to subscribe or not subscribe.

00:23:56.000 You pay or you don't pay.

00:23:58.000 It's your choice.

00:23:59.000 But in doing so, these people have cultivated a group of people that are actually looking for real journalists.

00:24:04.000 It's interesting.

00:24:05.000 It is.

00:24:07.000 That was the problem is the media probably just didn't adapt to the digital age.

00:24:11.000 Yeah.

00:24:11.000 They kept making papers and then they started giving the articles away for free.

00:24:15.000 Yep.

00:24:15.000 And then in order to get clicks, you had to make the headlines into like car crashes to get people's attention.

00:24:22.000 You have to.

00:24:23.000 You know, like from doing comedy, it's the same thing when you're doing comedy, when you're doing like an open mic or a free show, the audience doesn't respect it.

00:24:30.000 It's true.

00:24:31.000 They come in, you do those college shows, they yawn, they come in in flip-flops, they suck their teeth at you, you know, they don't care, they didn't pay.

00:24:39.000 They're not invested.

00:24:40.000 You're not invested in it, and you're attracting an audience that is apathetic.

00:24:45.000 They're not there for the show, but yeah, if you pay for the journalism, you can take that money away.

00:24:50.000 If it's not good, you go, you know, take it away.

00:24:53.000 Yeah, that's an interesting thing, isn't it, about those free shows, paper shows?

00:24:56.000 The audience, the way they feel is so different.

00:24:59.000 Shorter attention span, not really that interested, just not invested in the show.

00:25:05.000 Yeah, you don't respect something if you don't pay for it.

00:25:07.000 Yeah, unfortunately, it's true.

00:25:10.000 It's true.

00:25:11.000 But, you know, that's a good...

00:25:13.000 It's like Patreon.

00:25:14.000 Like, comedy doesn't happen on television anymore.

00:25:17.000 That's not comedy.

00:25:18.000 Isn't that wild?

00:25:19.000 Yeah, it's wild.

00:25:20.000 But comedy is happening on podcasts, on the internet, and Patreon is like the purest, it's probably the purest system, the subscriber model, That comedians and entertainers have ever had.

00:25:35.000 It's this same model that Netflix has, same model that HBO has, and it proves that that model probably is better than the other models because HBO, for a while, has been making more money than all the networks combined because of their dumb pilot system where they'd make those pilots and spend all that money and then jettison those shows that didn't work,

00:25:52.000 whereas HBO, it's like, hey, We make the shows that we want to make.

00:25:56.000 You pay the money.

00:25:57.000 And, you know, if you don't like it, you leave if you like it.

00:26:00.000 And that's why they were free to be uncensored and push the envelope.

00:26:03.000 And now that's happening online with Patreon.

00:26:05.000 Patreon.com slash Yanni Longdays.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, there's a new era in that respect.

00:26:11.000 But Patreon will delete you.

00:26:14.000 That's the problem.

00:26:15.000 They can decide that you're problematic.

00:26:17.000 And they've done that with people before, right?

00:26:19.000 Right.

00:26:19.000 They've done that with people...

00:26:22.000 Where it was very arguable whether or not what they did was bad or not.

00:26:26.000 That's the issue.

00:26:27.000 You need something where the people get to decide and not a corporation.

00:26:30.000 You're not going through a filter like Patreon.

00:26:32.000 Right.

00:26:33.000 So how do you do that?

00:26:34.000 I think Sam Harris doesn't use Patreon.

00:26:36.000 I think he does it straight through his website.

00:26:38.000 I think his donations...

00:26:39.000 He's an interesting cat, man.

00:26:41.000 And the way he does his podcast, he does a subscriber-based podcast, but he doesn't ever want anyone to not get the content if they can't afford it.

00:26:50.000 So all you have to do is send an email to him saying that you can't afford it, and he'll give you a free subscription.

00:26:57.000 And 100% of all those requests are accepted.

00:27:00.000 Wow.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 But he still does well.

00:27:02.000 Yeah.

00:27:02.000 It's still doing really well.

00:27:03.000 Because people want to give.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, because it's really good.

00:27:05.000 His insight is fantastic.

00:27:07.000 He's a really brilliant guy.

00:27:09.000 But the way he's doing it is all through his...

00:27:13.000 First of all, there's not a corporation in the world that would do that.

00:27:16.000 Would say, if you can't afford it, send an email, we'll give it to you for free.

00:27:20.000 Right, right.

00:27:20.000 But he doesn't.

00:27:21.000 Right.

00:27:22.000 Right.

00:27:23.000 Yeah.

00:27:23.000 So he's got a weird business model, but it works for him.

00:27:27.000 And I'm pretty sure he does it all through his website.

00:27:29.000 Radiohead doesn't get enough credit for being the first.

00:27:38.000 Remember when they did that on their website?

00:27:40.000 They just said, we're giving you this album for donation.

00:27:44.000 Give what you want.

00:27:44.000 And they made a ton of money.

00:27:46.000 What was that?

00:27:47.000 Remember that?

00:27:48.000 In Rainbows, it was 2005. Pay What You Want release is what they called it.

00:27:53.000 The first matriarch to do it. 1.00

00:27:55.000 Who was it?

00:27:55.000 Radiohead.

00:27:56.000 Radiohead did.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:27:57.000 That's right.

00:27:58.000 And they made a ton.

00:27:59.000 And at that point, that was like the coup de grace.

00:28:01.000 I thought you were saying Radio did that.

00:28:02.000 I was like, what?

00:28:04.000 Radiohead.

00:28:05.000 That's right.

00:28:05.000 Radio did that.

00:28:06.000 Yeah.

00:28:06.000 Well, Louis C.K. did that too, didn't he?

00:28:08.000 He did.

00:28:09.000 He did it.

00:28:09.000 Didn't he do something very similar like that when he released his comedy special?

00:28:12.000 He did.

00:28:12.000 Well, he did it for five bucks on his website.

00:28:15.000 But Radiohead was like the first major act of any genre ever.

00:28:19.000 Any art form to do it.

00:28:21.000 And it wasn't just a set price.

00:28:23.000 It was like, pay what you want.

00:28:24.000 And people ended up, because they love Radiohead so much, they end up giving a lot of money.

00:28:28.000 Much like the Sam Harris model.

00:28:30.000 You were just saying like, hey, if you can't afford it, we'll give it to you.

00:28:32.000 But people want to pay.

00:28:34.000 I think Adam Curry has a similar situation, right?

00:28:37.000 He allows, you could pay whatever you want.

00:28:39.000 Isn't it?

00:28:40.000 I think Adams is free.

00:28:42.000 Is it free or is it you could pay whatever you want?

00:28:45.000 I think you could pay whatever you want.

00:28:46.000 And some people pay a dollar and some people, he's like, some people pay you a lot of money.

00:28:49.000 They just say, this is a great show.

00:28:51.000 I want to support it.

00:28:53.000 There's some purity to that.

00:28:55.000 Big time.

00:28:56.000 It really is.

00:28:57.000 It's a nice business model.

00:29:01.000 Adam, in particular, has a real relationship with his fans.

00:29:05.000 It works out.

00:29:08.000 Everybody agrees.

00:29:10.000 He does not waver.

00:29:12.000 He does not censor himself.

00:29:14.000 He's always telling you the straight dope, no matter what or how uncomfortable or how weird the conversation is.

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 And that model's pure.

00:29:24.000 Straight to the fans.

00:29:25.000 No middleman, no corporate, you know, ethics office or whatever.

00:29:30.000 And people crave that.

00:29:32.000 People want that.

00:29:32.000 And that's why the success of that model is the success that it is.

00:29:38.000 Because people want it.

00:29:39.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 And, you know...

00:29:40.000 Well, they realize the opposite is dangerous.

00:29:43.000 When you have corporate censored information and you're not getting the full unbiased story, you're getting a filtered down story that has been decided upon by a bunch of executives, they would say, well, we're going to leave the...

00:29:55.000 You know, it must look like we were talking about with the prosecuting attorney.

00:29:57.000 It was going to leave out some information that would make us look bad or make the story look bad.

00:30:02.000 Let's steer it in a certain direction.

00:30:04.000 We're not going to lie, but we're going to eliminate some stuff that would throw into question.

00:30:08.000 Whether or not our story is accurate.

00:30:11.000 Right.

00:30:11.000 And people see through it now.

00:30:12.000 Yeah.

00:30:13.000 A lot of the reason is podcasts like yours.

00:30:16.000 Where you're like, hey, I'll let a guy talk for four hours.

00:30:18.000 You know, you could tune in when you want.

00:30:20.000 Tune in for as long as you want.

00:30:22.000 It's on you.

00:30:23.000 But I'm going to let him talk.

00:30:24.000 And I'm not beholden to, you know, some peacock logo or, you know, you're beholden to probably a few, you know, a few vitamins and a few weights.

00:30:36.000 Right.

00:30:38.000 But they never give me advice.

00:30:39.000 Which are good for you.

00:30:40.000 They are good for you.

00:30:41.000 They never give me advice though.

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 Never get advice from the vitamin companies.

00:30:44.000 No.

00:30:45.000 No.

00:30:45.000 Should I get the on it?

00:30:47.000 I'll get it for you.

00:30:48.000 What do you want?

00:30:49.000 Jerk off stuff? 0.61

00:30:50.000 What are you talking about? 0.90

00:30:50.000 No, that jerk up motion. 0.90

00:30:52.000 Kettlebells?

00:30:52.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:30:53.000 Kettlebells.

00:30:53.000 You can tell I don't really work out.

00:30:55.000 The jerk up motion thing.

00:30:56.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 I'll give you one to take back with you.

00:30:58.000 All right.

00:30:58.000 As long as it's got a gorilla face on it.

00:31:00.000 How many pounds do you want?

00:31:03.000 Can we start with the beginner gun?

00:31:05.000 Yeah.

00:31:06.000 I'll have some sent to you.

00:31:08.000 Have you ever used kettlebells before?

00:31:09.000 No.

00:31:10.000 We have some here.

00:31:11.000 We have some in the back.

00:31:12.000 I won't get a hernia from pulling it up?

00:31:13.000 No.

00:31:14.000 The key is you can get a really good workout with a 35 pound kettlebell.

00:31:18.000 A really good full body workout.

00:31:19.000 There's a great video called Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout.

00:31:24.000 It's Keith Weber.

00:31:26.000 And he's a guy who's been on the podcast before.

00:31:28.000 I have no affiliation with him other than he's great.

00:31:30.000 He's just a great guy. 0.99

00:31:31.000 And his video, you use one 35-pound kettlebell and it'll fucking crush you. 0.98

00:31:37.000 It's incredible. 0.97

00:31:37.000 In the beginning, you're doing like, this is easy. 0.97

00:31:39.000 I can fucking do this all day long. 0.90

00:31:41.000 30 seconds later, you're like, oh, this is going to be a problem. 1.00

00:31:44.000 And then Four minutes later, you're like, fuck! 1.00

00:31:47.000 The next day, you barely walk. 1.00

00:31:49.000 It's incredible.

00:31:49.000 Because you're using your whole body, right?

00:31:51.000 Using your whole body.

00:31:52.000 And it's a cardio workout.

00:31:54.000 But it's a strength-producing workout, too.

00:31:56.000 The thing about things like kettlebells are, they strengthen everything.

00:32:00.000 It strengthens your stabilizing muscles, your balance, all your joints, all that stuff all works together.

00:32:06.000 Because it's all working together as one unit.

00:32:09.000 You're not just bench pressing or curling.

00:32:11.000 You're doing something where the whole body is involved in the exercise.

00:32:15.000 They could clip that and make that the commercial right there.

00:32:17.000 I love them.

00:32:18.000 It's my primary means of working out.

00:32:20.000 If you could tell me I could only have two pieces of equipment, I would say I want a 50-pound kettlebell and a chin-up bar.

00:32:25.000 That's all I want.

00:32:26.000 I'll be good with that.

00:32:27.000 And an ice bath, baby.

00:32:29.000 And an ice bath.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, you've been doing good with that.

00:32:31.000 You did 20 minutes?

00:32:32.000 Yeah, I'm not doing that again.

00:32:34.000 I had a headache all day yesterday.

00:32:36.000 The day before I did it.

00:32:37.000 When did I do it?

00:32:38.000 I didn't do it yesterday, right?

00:32:40.000 I did it the day before.

00:32:41.000 I did it Monday.

00:32:41.000 All day Tuesday I had a headache.

00:32:43.000 And I was like, damn, what if I die? 0.99

00:32:44.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:32:47.000 Because then when people were sending me things about hypothermia, and you get hypothermia in that temperature after like 15 minutes.

00:32:53.000 Yeah, dude, I could have told you it probably wasn't safe just because of your nips. 1.00

00:32:56.000 Your nips were going like, take me out of here. 1.00

00:32:58.000 They went like that immediately, though. 0.99

00:32:59.000 I have very sensitive nipples. 0.89

00:33:01.000 They're very excitable. 0.96

00:33:03.000 Yeah.

00:33:03.000 But, yeah, I don't know.

00:33:05.000 Your nipples look like those rock climbing things. 0.99

00:33:08.000 When you're in wrestling class. 0.99

00:33:10.000 You just pull up one of them.

00:33:11.000 Yeah, they were cold. 0.99

00:33:12.000 Yeah, it's fucking cold. 1.00

00:33:14.000 It's a ridiculous thing. 0.99

00:33:15.000 I just wanted to see how far I could push it.

00:33:17.000 20 minutes is impressive. 1.00

00:33:18.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:33:20.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:33:21.000 It's not wise. 1.00

00:33:21.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

00:33:22.000 I mean, you do that, though.

00:33:23.000 I was thinking of going longer.

00:33:24.000 I was going to go to 25. Wow.

00:33:26.000 But I was going to go, stop.

00:33:27.000 Just stop.

00:33:28.000 Just stay.

00:33:29.000 Stay safe.

00:33:30.000 Stay alive.

00:33:31.000 I remember last time when I did that show with you at the Vulcan down here, and you just climbed up the side of the building.

00:33:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:38.000 You saw the ladder, and you're like, this ladder's dangerous, Dev.

00:33:40.000 Someone could just climb right up here. 0.57

00:33:41.000 And then you're like, let me check it out.

00:33:42.000 You just jumped up and climbed it.

00:33:44.000 I was like, that's not safe.

00:33:46.000 Nope.

00:33:47.000 No, that wasn't safe.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, but I would be fine.

00:33:49.000 I would've just...

00:33:50.000 I would've been fine.

00:33:51.000 There was a truck there.

00:33:52.000 I would've fallen on the truck.

00:33:53.000 Nice, yeah.

00:33:54.000 I'm glad you had it thought out.

00:33:56.000 I thought it through.

00:33:58.000 Yeah, I don't think there was a mattress on the truck, though.

00:34:00.000 That?

00:34:01.000 Yeah.

00:34:01.000 It's not that far.

00:34:02.000 Yeah, but you did.

00:34:03.000 You climbed up the building in, like, seconds.

00:34:07.000 You were doing an obstacle course.

00:34:09.000 It almost felt like I was on American Ninja Warrior or something.

00:34:12.000 Well, it wasn't that hard.

00:34:13.000 It was just a ladder.

00:34:14.000 It's very difficult, I think, to jump up and do that.

00:34:16.000 Yeah.

00:34:17.000 I don't think me or Jamie could have done that.

00:34:19.000 I can't do one pull-up.

00:34:21.000 Jamie could do it.

00:34:21.000 No, I don't think so.

00:34:22.000 Dude, he scaled it.

00:34:24.000 He was doing parkour.

00:34:26.000 It looked like parkour.

00:34:27.000 We've watched a lot of parkour on this show.

00:34:29.000 That was definitely not parkour.

00:34:31.000 That was like a 53-year-old guy who could do some chin-ups.

00:34:34.000 I guess so, yeah.

00:34:36.000 It was still pretty impressive.

00:34:37.000 And dangerous.

00:34:38.000 Yeah, it's definitely dangerous a little bit.

00:34:40.000 But you gotta have a little danger in your life.

00:34:43.000 You can't be just playing it safe all the time.

00:34:45.000 Yeah.

00:34:45.000 It's not healthy.

00:34:46.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 It's just not wise.

00:34:48.000 Yeah.

00:34:48.000 But I'm a guy with anxiety, so I... You know the best way to get over anxiety?

00:34:53.000 Do dangerous shit. 0.99

00:34:54.000 I thought you were going to say zinc. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Magnesium!

00:34:58.000 On it!

00:35:00.000 Magnesium!

00:35:00.000 What's the best way?

00:35:02.000 I think doing difficult things, challenging yourself, making yourself more resilient, mentally resilient.

00:35:08.000 That's just my thoughts on it.

00:35:10.000 CBD is good for anxiety too.

00:35:12.000 That's proven.

00:35:14.000 Some people think that anxiety is connected to a lack of rigorous exercise.

00:35:20.000 Some people think it's connected to inflammation.

00:35:22.000 I mean, there's a lot of thoughts on that.

00:35:24.000 And I think the problem with anybody giving anyone a diagnosis is each human being has an individual level of anxiety that's impossible to determine.

00:35:33.000 Like, I could weigh you, and I know how much you weigh.

00:35:36.000 I can't weigh your anxiety.

00:35:38.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:35:39.000 You say, hey doctor, I'm fucking anxious. 0.98

00:35:42.000 I have all this anxiety. 0.98

00:35:43.000 I'm freaking out.

00:35:44.000 Doctor doesn't know what that means.

00:35:46.000 Is your anxiety legitimate? 0.97

00:35:49.000 Maybe someone's trying to kill you.

00:35:50.000 Maybe you should be anxious. 1.00

00:35:52.000 Or maybe you're just fucking really chemically imbalanced. 0.98

00:35:56.000 Maybe you could alleviate that with exercise. 0.99

00:35:58.000 Or maybe you can't.

00:35:59.000 Maybe you need medication.

00:36:00.000 So no one really knows you other than you.

00:36:03.000 Right.

00:36:04.000 I guess the only thing...

00:36:06.000 They start to get a sense of your level of anxiety if you start saying, like, the Mossad's out to get me.

00:36:12.000 Right.

00:36:13.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 If you start saying...

00:36:14.000 I'm Queen Elizabeth reincarnated.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, I come from alien DNA. They visit me regularly.

00:36:18.000 Stuff like that.

00:36:19.000 Yeah.

00:36:19.000 Imagine if you did.

00:36:20.000 Imagine if you really were an alien hybrid and nobody wanted to listen. 0.98

00:36:24.000 And you're like, I'm telling you guys.

00:36:26.000 That would be something that the aliens would do just for entertainment. 0.87

00:36:31.000 Well...

00:36:33.000 It'll be really hard to convince someone of anything extraordinary.

00:36:37.000 Really hard to convince someone that you're involved in anything that's really off the deep end crazy.

00:36:43.000 Right. 1.00

00:36:44.000 It's much easier to convince people of stupid stuff. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:36:47.000 People love that. 1.00

00:36:48.000 If you have a little charisma, Charisma goes a long way, dude.

00:36:52.000 It's like that Quentin Tarantino from that movie.

00:36:55.000 Personality goes a long way.

00:36:57.000 You look at every despot in history, not one of them was a bore.

00:37:01.000 You can't get a lot of people.

00:37:03.000 They have a lot in common with stand-up comics. 0.98

00:37:05.000 They get up there, control the crowd, bullshit, lie, like we do. 0.99

00:37:09.000 Well, how about Hitler? 1.00

00:37:10.000 Hell, he crushed. 0.92

00:37:12.000 He would crush.

00:37:12.000 I would watch those videos.

00:37:13.000 I don't even speak German, but you get goosebumps and you find yourself.

00:37:18.000 You're just like, whatever he's saying, I'm on board.

00:37:20.000 He means it.

00:37:21.000 He does mean it, and he's enhanced.

00:37:24.000 He's on cocaine, he's on testosterone, he's on meth.

00:37:29.000 He's on a gang of different things.

00:37:31.000 Panzer Chocolat, I think they called it, right?

00:37:34.000 Is that what they called it?

00:37:34.000 Well, it was like chocolate.

00:37:36.000 It was in meth and chocolate.

00:37:37.000 And they called it Panzerschocolat because they would give it to the guys in the Panzertanks.

00:37:43.000 And so those dudes were just, yeah, they were lit.

00:37:46.000 They were lit?

00:37:47.000 They were lit.

00:37:47.000 I don't think you can go to war without being lit, right?

00:37:49.000 Well, it's probably not wise.

00:37:51.000 Right.

00:37:51.000 If you're definitely going to go to war, wouldn't you want to be on meth?

00:37:55.000 Absolutely.

00:37:56.000 Yeah.

00:37:57.000 I mean, if 100%.

00:37:58.000 The only thing I would think is maybe you would make decisions that wouldn't be intelligent.

00:38:03.000 Right.

00:38:03.000 You wouldn't make wise choices.

00:38:05.000 You would just be a berserker.

00:38:06.000 Right.

00:38:07.000 You'd be like, you see Bugs Bunny and you'd just be shooting.

00:38:10.000 Yeah, you'd be tripping.

00:38:11.000 We've talked about it on the podcast before, but there was a time when Hitler went to visit Mussolini because Mussolini was thinking of pulling Italy out of the war.

00:38:17.000 And Hitler, apparently, he was exhausted before this.

00:38:21.000 Do we ever resolve who told us that story?

00:38:25.000 Someone told us a story, then we researched it.

00:38:29.000 We found the time...

00:38:30.000 Yeah, I remember I did.

00:38:31.000 I found the article where it said it.

00:38:33.000 Right.

00:38:33.000 Yeah.

00:38:33.000 No, that, but who told us about it?

00:38:35.000 I don't remember.

00:38:37.000 I found the podcast when we found out about it.

00:38:39.000 It was with Brian Moses, but I don't know if he's the one who told us about it.

00:38:42.000 I don't think so.

00:38:42.000 I think we were talking about it to Moses, but I think someone else had told...

00:38:46.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:38:47.000 Before we get too far, the Panzer Chocolat thing might not be real.

00:38:51.000 Really?

00:38:52.000 The company that made it, I guess, is a fake image of supposed Panzer Chocolat in combination with their trademark.

00:38:59.000 It might have been just with this company's lettering, but they said it was not real.

00:39:05.000 Allegedly, they would put meth in chocolate, right?

00:39:07.000 Yeah, there was something else I just found that had a different name, but then I found what you said.

00:39:12.000 It might just be what you were saying, that that word might not be real, but they did put some drug in chocolate.

00:39:18.000 Yeah, it says, however, this Panzerschokolade never existed.

00:39:24.000 Zadr distances itself with all clarity from this brand and reputation damaging misrepresentation, which establishes a non-existing connection between our company, founded in 1999...

00:39:33.000 Oh, that's different.

00:39:34.000 ...and the Nazi regime.

00:39:36.000 This is like, I guess, a company that's saying, like, hey...

00:39:38.000 No, that's what I was trying to say, right?

00:39:39.000 The actual...

00:39:41.000 Chocolate drug probably did exist, but the thing with...

00:39:45.000 They didn't call it Panzer chocolate.

00:39:46.000 Oh, it's the company Zotter.

00:39:48.000 See what I'm saying?

00:39:49.000 Yeah, Zotter has been refuting it because they're the company that started in 1999. But a lot of fucking companies started during Nazi Germany, right? 0.99

00:39:58.000 BMW. Audi. 0.99

00:40:00.000 Audi.

00:40:00.000 Did you ever see Hitler's race car?

00:40:02.000 Hitler had an Audi race car. 0.99

00:40:04.000 Pretty fucking dope. 1.00

00:40:05.000 Really? 1.00

00:40:05.000 Looked like a cigar. 1.00

00:40:06.000 Yeah.

00:40:06.000 Like an old school, like a cigar with wheels poking out the side.

00:40:10.000 Right.

00:40:10.000 You ever see it?

00:40:10.000 I don't think I have.

00:40:11.000 I think it either went for auction or something happened a few years back where it's a pretty dope looking car. 0.99

00:40:21.000 You got to think like for 1940, like if you saw that thing in 1940, it would be the shit. 0.99

00:40:26.000 Right. 1.00

00:40:27.000 You know?

00:40:27.000 Well, you'd think the Fuhrer would have the...

00:40:29.000 He'd have the top model.

00:40:31.000 It'd be weird if he rolled around in a Volkswagen.

00:40:32.000 I see the same car with a Mercedes logo and an Audi logo.

00:40:36.000 Oh, yeah?

00:40:36.000 Unless someone's photoshopping stuff.

00:40:38.000 I mean, that is a lit mobile right there.

00:40:40.000 That says 12 million, but that has an Audi logo.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 Wow, look how pretty it is.

00:40:44.000 Germans can make cars, man. 1.00

00:40:46.000 Oh, fuck yeah, they can. 1.00

00:40:47.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

00:40:48.000 That's so pretty.

00:40:49.000 It is.

00:40:51.000 And that's from what year is that?

00:40:53.000 Hitler's racing car.

00:40:54.000 Is there a good side profile of it, Jamie?

00:40:57.000 So there's one, wow, look at that thing.

00:41:00.000 Rare Nazi-era race car on display. 0.97

00:41:03.000 Look how fucking pretty that is. 0.98

00:41:05.000 That is nice. 0.99

00:41:05.000 If you're driving down the 405 with that bad boy. 0.99

00:41:08.000 Yeah.

00:41:09.000 Look at that right there.

00:41:10.000 Wow.

00:41:12.000 The most expensive car ever.

00:41:14.000 Hitler's Auto Union on the auction blog.

00:41:16.000 And that's got the Audi logo on it. 0.99

00:41:18.000 So that was his, was that his particular, like if you sniff the seat, you're sniffing where his ass was? 0.99

00:41:23.000 That's very different. 0.99

00:41:23.000 That's a little different, yeah. 0.99

00:41:24.000 Yeah.

00:41:25.000 I don't think so.

00:41:26.000 I think he just sponsored, you know, he sponsored race cars.

00:41:30.000 You know, they sponsored athletes for the Olympics. 1.00

00:41:32.000 They sponsored all that shit. 1.00

00:41:34.000 You ever see that photo of him in the stands at the Olympics? 1.00

00:41:38.000 Oh yeah! 0.98

00:41:39.000 Trippin' balls. 0.98

00:41:40.000 There's a video of it. 0.99

00:41:41.000 Trippin' balls. 0.99

00:41:42.000 He looks like an Orthodox Jew at the Welling Wall. 0.99

00:41:44.000 Just tweakin'.

00:41:44.000 Tweakin' hard.

00:41:47.000 That girl, that amazing gymnast, who everybody's shittin' on.

00:41:52.000 Simone Biles.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, because she just bailed on the Olympics.

00:41:54.000 She's like, I can't take anymore.

00:41:56.000 I was just reading that she regularly takes ADHD medication and they said that she can no longer take it because in Japan you can't take this stuff.

00:42:08.000 She takes Ritalin.

00:42:09.000 Find out if this is true.

00:42:11.000 Because if that is the case, they said that during the last Olympics, I guess 2016, she took this stuff and she won a bunch of gold medals.

00:42:22.000 Yeah.

00:42:23.000 Because she's regularly on this.

00:42:26.000 Right.

00:42:26.000 This is her medication.

00:42:27.000 And so they're saying she can't because...

00:42:29.000 Japan.

00:42:30.000 Japan.

00:42:31.000 It's illegal to take, whether it's Adderall or Ritalin.

00:42:36.000 I think it's illegal to take those in Japan.

00:42:39.000 This is what I was reading today.

00:42:40.000 So weird how cultures have their different...

00:42:41.000 Yeah.

00:42:42.000 I mean, you could buy panties in a vending machine, but you can't take Ritalin? 0.96

00:42:48.000 Well, I think they're very sensitive to amphetamines because amphetamines and methamphetamines were the reason why the kamikazes were willing to fucking fly their planes right into boats. 1.00

00:42:59.000 Fucking gritting their teeth the whole way. 0.99

00:43:01.000 Boom! 1.00

00:43:02.000 That's why Lexus probably does so well, because if you mess up at the factory, you have to walk off a plank because of honor.

00:43:07.000 They're in honor.

00:43:08.000 Really?

00:43:08.000 I don't know if that's true, but it is.

00:43:11.000 They don't fuck. 0.99

00:43:12.000 I've had three Lexuses in my life. 1.00

00:43:14.000 They never break.

00:43:14.000 They're so good.

00:43:15.000 They're so good.

00:43:16.000 They're the best cars.

00:43:17.000 This is from the last Olympics.

00:43:20.000 Okay.

00:43:20.000 Simone Biles addresses leaked medical records and ADHD misconceptions.

00:43:24.000 U.S. gymnast superstar Simone Biles was in a different kind of spotlight Tuesday after Russian hackers circulated confidential medical reports in the World Anti-Doping Agency database that showed her use of methyl...

00:43:39.000 Methylfendate, a stimulant used to treat ADHD. Biles 19 was forced to publicly address her ADHD and her approval of the use of medication after a leak.

00:43:48.000 I have ADHD and I've taken medicine for it since I was a kid.

00:43:51.000 Please know I believe in a clean sport.

00:43:53.000 I've always followed the rules.

00:43:54.000 Will continue to do so as far as fair play is critical to sport and is very important to me.

00:44:00.000 So she's been on this medication for a long time.

00:44:03.000 But see if you can find that...

00:44:06.000 An article that says she was not allowed to take this ADHD medication in Japan, because that's what they're saying.

00:44:14.000 They were saying that during this Olympics, they told her she has to get off of it.

00:44:19.000 If that's the case, that would greatly contribute to her anxiety and her mental problems that she's having. 0.89

00:44:27.000 Imagine if you're on a medication.

00:44:29.000 For the last at least five years, right?

00:44:31.000 She's been on it since 2016. And then all of a sudden they tell you you can't be on it anymore and you have to compete in the Olympics.

00:44:37.000 Yeah.

00:44:38.000 And you're used to being on this medication.

00:44:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:41.000 The fuck? 1.00

00:44:41.000 That'll cause you some strife. 1.00

00:44:43.000 But this could be fishy.

00:44:45.000 Like, they're saying they treated for ADHD. But what if this is like a drug that makes them like super focused?

00:44:51.000 Well, it does make you super focused.

00:44:53.000 Super focused.

00:44:53.000 I'm sure it does.

00:44:54.000 I mean, that's why they say pitchers can't take it. 0.87

00:44:56.000 Right.

00:44:57.000 Like pitchers want to take Adderall.

00:44:58.000 Right.

00:44:59.000 Yeah.

00:44:59.000 And pitchers used to take Greenies, which were basically like some sort of- Amphetamines.

00:45:05.000 Amphetamines. 0.85

00:45:05.000 So this could be a similar kind of scandal where the Russian hackers, freaking Russians, you know, the Russians and the Chinese are just like- They're beating us online, dude. 0.85

00:45:14.000 They're like Iago and Othello. 1.00

00:45:16.000 And they're just kind of manipulating us and hacking our shit. 1.00

00:45:20.000 They are. 1.00

00:45:21.000 You see that video of Hunter Biden doing cracks?

00:45:24.000 Someone hacked that.

00:45:25.000 How'd they get that?

00:45:26.000 I don't know, but it was one of the funniest when she's going, are you there?

00:45:29.000 And he's just going...

00:45:32.000 I watch it over and over again and just laugh.

00:45:34.000 But what's crazy is, Joe Biden was one of the people that made sure that the laws went through that treated people very differently for crack than they did for cocaine.

00:45:44.000 I mean, that has been, if you want to talk about, if you want to see clear evidence of racism in prosecutions, it's the difference between how they treat cocaine arrests versus how they treat crack arrests. 0.85

00:45:57.000 And crack, if you talk to Dr. Carl Hart from fucking Columbia, who's a brilliant guy, he'll tell you that crack is cocaine.

00:46:05.000 It's just a cheaper version of it, it's just about the way it's processed and the way it's made, but essentially the psychoactive chemical is the same. 0.97

00:46:14.000 For sure.

00:46:14.000 And I think the drug crimes, really, you see the systematic oppression of black people in drug crimes.

00:46:23.000 It's like, yeah, white guys doing cocaine. 0.97

00:46:25.000 Exactly. 0.91

00:46:26.000 But like, yeah, I mean, a black guy's got a bag of marijuana, he goes away for 15 years or whatever. 0.66

00:46:30.000 That's been a total injustice in our country. 1.00

00:46:33.000 Meanwhile, his fucking son smoked crack. 1.00

00:46:37.000 Kid smokes crack. 1.00

00:46:39.000 He's got a couple bucks.

00:46:40.000 He parties, dude, yeah.

00:46:42.000 He's got money.

00:46:43.000 He's got a taste.

00:46:44.000 Once you develop, it's like, once you experience 100% pure grape juice, it's delicious, but if you were raised on grape drink, you love that grape drink.

00:46:54.000 It's a different flavor.

00:46:55.000 It's a different flavor.

00:46:55.000 He loves that grape drink drug.

00:46:57.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 Because it's basically like, it's kind of like a cheaper form of the real thing.

00:47:02.000 It's a cheaper form of the real thing, and I bet part of it is being naughty.

00:47:06.000 Hunter Biden likes to be naughty. 0.82

00:47:08.000 He's a naughty boy. 0.97

00:47:09.000 He's a naughty kid. 0.52

00:47:10.000 Right?

00:47:10.000 He's naughty.

00:47:11.000 His dad was the vice president and he's just being naughty. 0.92

00:47:14.000 Yeah.

00:47:14.000 You know?

00:47:15.000 He's eating hookers assholes, smoking crack, getting wild, getting foot jobs. 1.00

00:47:20.000 He's fun. 1.00

00:47:21.000 I mean, he's a fun kid.

00:47:22.000 I'd rather hang out with him.

00:47:23.000 I tried to get him on the podcast.

00:47:24.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 I tried to get him on the podcast.

00:47:25.000 Well, tell him you got some crack.

00:47:27.000 But here's the thing is like they asked for him to be on the podcast first. 0.99

00:47:32.000 And I think I was like, I get the fuck out of here with that. 0.91

00:47:34.000 And then as time went on, I was like, I think one day I was really high. 0.98

00:47:38.000 And then I had this epiphany, like, why wouldn't I have him on?

00:47:41.000 Like, he's just a man.

00:47:42.000 Not only that, he's, like, everybody's mad at him.

00:47:45.000 I'm not mad at him.

00:47:46.000 And I'm not a mean guy.

00:47:47.000 Like, if I had him on the podcast, I would be nice to him.

00:47:50.000 I don't know what it's like to be born a son of a wealthy, famous politician who happened to be the vice president of the United States.

00:47:58.000 Who also drafted the 1994 sweeping crime bill. 0.99

00:48:01.000 I don't know what the fuck that would be like. 0.92

00:48:03.000 It'd be weird. 0.98

00:48:04.000 It's a weird life, man.

00:48:06.000 And I'd probably get naughty too. 0.99

00:48:08.000 But he seems to have pulled his shit together and he wrote a book about it. 1.00

00:48:11.000 And everybody wants to prosecute him and attack him and all this shit. 0.99

00:48:13.000 But what has he done? 0.99

00:48:15.000 He's just done regular crazy shit that a lot of our comic friends have done. 0.99

00:48:19.000 I have no problem with that guy. 0.99

00:48:20.000 The idea that we should hate him because his dad is the vice president and now the president.

00:48:25.000 Why?

00:48:26.000 Right. 0.99

00:48:26.000 Well, I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:48:27.000 Yeah, he's got no power or anything like that. 1.00

00:48:29.000 He's just a guy who likes to get wild.

00:48:31.000 He likes to get wild, yeah.

00:48:32.000 How many guys like that do we know?

00:48:34.000 A lot of guys.

00:48:34.000 In our world?

00:48:35.000 Yeah.

00:48:35.000 I mean, I give him more...

00:48:36.000 A lot of guys...

00:48:37.000 I don't even know guys who smoke crack anymore.

00:48:38.000 I mean, he's like a throwback.

00:48:40.000 He's like a...

00:48:40.000 Well, one of my best friends was a serious crackhead.

00:48:42.000 Yeah?

00:48:43.000 Yeah, when I lived in New York, he's dead now.

00:48:44.000 But, uh...

00:48:45.000 One of my best friends.

00:48:46.000 He was, at the time, my best friend, but one of my best friends ever.

00:48:50.000 If I had to make a list of like 20 of my all-time best friends, my friend Johnny B, he would be right up there. 0.97

00:48:57.000 He was fucking amazing. 0.99

00:48:59.000 He was an amazing guy, but he was a drug addict. 1.00

00:49:01.000 And he was wild.

00:49:02.000 Just a wild dude.

00:49:05.000 I'd drop him off places sometimes.

00:49:07.000 I'd bring him to go cop when he'd pick up drugs. 0.99

00:49:11.000 I'd have to take him to a liquor store so he could buy 40 ounces to take the edge off because he was so fucked up on crack. 0.95

00:49:17.000 That sounds very like early 90s, 80s. 0.99

00:49:20.000 Just crack, 40s.

00:49:21.000 Yep, exactly.

00:49:22.000 It was early 90s.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, maybe a little Brand Nubian playing in the background.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, Cool G Rap.

00:49:26.000 Cool G Rap, yeah.

00:49:28.000 The L Street Blues.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, you lose because you got the L Street Blues.

00:49:32.000 Those guys could rhyme, dude.

00:49:33.000 Dude, Kool G Rap is, to this day, in my opinion, one of the most underrated rappers of all time.

00:49:42.000 He's one of the all-time greats.

00:49:43.000 Without a doubt.

00:49:44.000 Cockblockin', that song, Cockblockin'.

00:49:46.000 Without a doubt.

00:49:46.000 If you listen to Illustree, you listen to the lyrics of Illustree Blues.

00:49:49.000 Amazing.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, Rakim.

00:49:51.000 Yeah.

00:49:52.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:49:53.000 Eric Bean, Rakim?

00:49:54.000 Oh, my God.

00:49:55.000 Just Lyricist, Big L. That whole era, it might have peaked.

00:49:59.000 I'm telling you, there's no Lyricist as good as those guys.

00:50:02.000 Maybe Eminem.

00:50:04.000 Nas.

00:50:04.000 Nas is the GOAT. Nas is great.

00:50:06.000 He's the GOAT. Yeah, but Nas is from back then.

00:50:07.000 He is from back then, but he's still doing it right now.

00:50:09.000 Nas, in my opinion, is the GOAT. Of lyrics, I don't think anybody can touch him.

00:50:14.000 I think he's number one.

00:50:15.000 He's my all-time favorite lyricist.

00:50:16.000 He makes songs backwards.

00:50:18.000 Yeah.

00:50:19.000 Right?

00:50:19.000 That one song, was it Rewind?

00:50:21.000 What was that one song, was it Rewind?

00:50:24.000 That he did backwards.

00:50:25.000 Yeah.

00:50:25.000 He told the whole story backwards.

00:50:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Who the fuck does that? 1.00

00:50:28.000 Nas. 1.00

00:50:28.000 Nas does that. 1.00

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 I mean, his rhymes are meticulous.

00:50:31.000 They're fantastic.

00:50:32.000 Totally.

00:50:33.000 You never hear like a Nas lyric where you go, that one's a little sketchy.

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 They're all amazing.

00:50:39.000 He's a real artist.

00:50:41.000 He's a real artist.

00:50:41.000 Artistry with it.

00:50:42.000 Back then hip-hop was incredible.

00:50:44.000 Everything was artistic, even the performance.

00:50:47.000 The background dancers, break dancing, the synchronized break dancing, the beatboxing, the DJing.

00:50:54.000 Now it's just club music.

00:50:56.000 Those guys must hate mumble rap.

00:50:58.000 Hate it!

00:50:59.000 And just how rich those guys are?

00:51:02.000 I think I saw Sadat X on the train one day, and I was like, I mean, those guys still tour, make money, they go to Japan.

00:51:09.000 Japanese can't get enough of hip-hop. 1.00

00:51:10.000 They love it.

00:51:11.000 They love breakdancing over there.

00:51:13.000 They love hip-hop, they love breakdancing, they love black guys.

00:51:16.000 Korea loves breakdancing. 0.99

00:51:18.000 Have you ever followed Stance Elements on Instagram?

00:51:21.000 No.

00:51:21.000 Stance Elements is this hip-hop page.

00:51:24.000 It's breakdancing page on Instagram.

00:51:27.000 And what they're doing right now with hip-hop, with breakdancing rather, is it doesn't even make sense. 0.98

00:51:33.000 Like the physical feats of spectacular coordination and strength that these fucking people can do now. 0.98

00:51:38.000 They're like, forget about gymnastics. 1.00

00:51:42.000 Breakdancing should be in the fucking Olympics. 1.00

00:51:43.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:51:46.000 What is that dude's name?

00:51:49.000 B-Boy Pocket Kim? 0.99

00:51:51.000 What the fuck is his name? 0.99

00:51:53.000 How do you say his name? 0.99

00:51:55.000 There's this kid, dude, and he defies gravity.

00:52:01.000 Like, it doesn't make sense.

00:52:02.000 B-Boy Pocket Kim? 0.69

00:52:04.000 Yeah, B-Boy Pocket.

00:52:06.000 And his name is Jiju Kim. 0.99

00:52:09.000 And he is fucking wild, dude. 1.00

00:52:14.000 When you see him move around, you cannot believe the kind of shit this guy can do with his body. 1.00

00:52:19.000 And it's all... 1.00

00:52:22.000 It's all breakdancing.

00:52:23.000 It's all b-boys. 1.00

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 I picked something too simple here.

00:52:26.000 This is very simple.

00:52:27.000 He's just hanging out with these ladies.

00:52:29.000 Yeah.

00:52:29.000 You gotta go to that one.

00:52:31.000 He's spinning on his fucking head. 1.00

00:52:32.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:52:33.000 That's like you pulled up my Maurese clip when Eliza said you pulled up a promo.

00:52:36.000 Look at this.

00:52:37.000 Look at this.

00:52:38.000 Show me fast.

00:52:39.000 That's crazy.

00:52:40.000 Dude, watch that. 0.97

00:52:42.000 Look at what he's doing on his head.

00:52:43.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 Watch when he brings his legs together.

00:52:46.000 He's spitting like a top on the top of his head. 0.84

00:52:49.000 He's like an electronic screwdriver. 0.76

00:52:51.000 It doesn't even make sense. 1.00

00:52:51.000 And that's nothing compared to some of the other shit that he could do. 1.00

00:52:55.000 He does, what do they call that, Jamie? 1.00

00:52:56.000 He's like, watch that one.

00:53:00.000 He's just showing himself warming up.

00:53:01.000 He might be selling pants here, I think.

00:53:03.000 Is he?

00:53:04.000 Yeah.

00:53:04.000 I mean, Asians, though, they can do this stuff, man.

00:53:09.000 Well, so can a lot of other people, dude.

00:53:11.000 I know, but have you seen Ocean's Eleven, dude?

00:53:12.000 The kid in Ocean's Eleven could fit in a suitcase.

00:53:15.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:53:16.000 I forgot about that.

00:53:17.000 They could turn invisible.

00:53:19.000 I want to see a really impressive one, though.

00:53:21.000 Let's see if this is one of them.

00:53:25.000 This guy, okay, here it is. 1.00

00:53:26.000 Look at the shit this guy can do. 1.00

00:53:28.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:53:31.000 And these people that are involved in this, they keep pushing the envelope of breakdancing.

00:53:37.000 There's a couple of friends that I have that are in the jiu-jitsu world.

00:53:42.000 Richie Martinez and Gio Martinez, they started out as breakdancers.

00:53:46.000 And I remember when they first came over to jiu-jitsu, Eddie Bravo, my instructor, was like, dude, there's something going on.

00:53:54.000 Like, breakdancing is next level.

00:53:56.000 Like, the strength that these guys have, the coordination they have, and the ability to control their body is unprecedented.

00:54:02.000 So he started literally practicing breakdancing moves as a method of getting better at jiu-jitsu.

00:54:08.000 That's like Herschel Walker.

00:54:09.000 He did ballet.

00:54:10.000 Yes.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:11.000 It makes a lot of sense.

00:54:13.000 It makes a lot of sense.

00:54:14.000 And it's interesting to see it evolve, like athletes, like athletics, where it's just more faster, more powerful, more insane.

00:54:22.000 Jiu-jitsu's evolving too, right?

00:54:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:24.000 Like MMA, those leg kicks, that's the new thing.

00:54:27.000 The low leg kicks.

00:54:28.000 The low leg kicks are like, dudes are breaking their legs now.

00:54:31.000 I know, it's crazy.

00:54:32.000 So then maybe humans will evolve, they'll start, you know how those Thai boxers kick trees and stuff? 1.00

00:54:38.000 Maybe now MMA guys are gonna start, until their legs are like guns, just like steel. 0.99

00:54:44.000 Because they're just snapping.

00:54:45.000 How many times recently, it's been like three, four guys have just snapped their legs.

00:54:49.000 It's been a few.

00:54:50.000 Conor apparently went into that fight with a cracked shin already.

00:54:54.000 He had gotten a stress fracture in his shin and got it scanned.

00:54:58.000 And there's even photographs of the scans and was putting pads on it.

00:55:02.000 But I think what he was trying to do was he was trying to spar during camp with no shin and instep pads.

00:55:08.000 That's what I've been told.

00:55:10.000 I don't know if it's true.

00:55:11.000 Whenever anything happens, you'll get like a bunch of text messages from guys.

00:55:15.000 You know, I know a guy from Conor's camp says Conor was sparring with no shin pads.

00:55:18.000 I don't know if that's true, but that's a rare thing for someone to spar.

00:55:22.000 But he was so hell-bent on destroying Dustin Poirier, he might have done something like that.

00:55:28.000 And then it wound up costing him.

00:55:30.000 Because you could see his leg.

00:55:32.000 It's clearly, there's something wrong with it going in.

00:55:35.000 Your leg doesn't just break like that.

00:55:37.000 You know, like when you see Chris Weidman's leg break, it's real clear.

00:55:40.000 Right.

00:55:41.000 He throws it, it catches right where Uriah Hall's shin meets the top of the knee, or the bottom of the knee.

00:55:46.000 It's a very rigid spot, and something has to give out, and it was the shin.

00:55:51.000 That makes sense.

00:55:52.000 Right.

00:55:52.000 The Conor one didn't really make sense.

00:55:54.000 Because there's more of an ankle, more lower...

00:55:55.000 Didn't make sense, the way it broke.

00:55:57.000 There was something wrong with it, I would imagine already.

00:56:00.000 But that one kick where he kind of checked on the elbow, it was that spot.

00:56:03.000 Yeah, but even then, it's very rare that that's going to make your instep or your shin break like that.

00:56:11.000 You know what's interesting?

00:56:12.000 It's like, not only does sports evolve, but your tolerance evolves for what you can look at.

00:56:16.000 Because now, I've become such a big MMA fan, and now I've seen so many of those breaks, at first you can't look at them.

00:56:22.000 You're like, oh my, I can't look at them.

00:56:23.000 Now you get used to it.

00:56:24.000 I'm like, I can watch a replay.

00:56:26.000 I can watch them now.

00:56:28.000 I've seen it in person, right?

00:56:29.000 So I've called thousands of fights in person. 0.93

00:56:32.000 I've probably seen more people get fucked up than most of the people that have ever lived. 0.98

00:56:37.000 If you had a history of people that have seen people get the shit beaten out of them, I gotta be high on that list. 0.98

00:56:43.000 You're high on that list, but also, like, there's a lot...

00:56:45.000 World Star Hip Hop has done a good job for all of us.

00:56:48.000 It has, but there's a difference between watching something on a screen and seeing something in real life.

00:56:53.000 You're right, yeah.

00:56:54.000 You get really accustomed to seeing injuries in real life.

00:56:57.000 I'm very accustomed to injuries in a weird way.

00:57:00.000 I love your outfit.

00:57:00.000 Is that the same outfit or you just got a bunch of black shirts?

00:57:03.000 David August.

00:57:04.000 I have tailored suits that are made by David August.

00:57:08.000 It's a good look, yeah. 1.00

00:57:09.000 To fit my fucking chimp body. 0.99

00:57:10.000 I have to get things that fit me right. 1.00

00:57:13.000 Yeah, they make beautiful clothes.

00:57:14.000 You look like a priest after work. 0.99

00:57:16.000 All that shit, when you see Conor McGregor wearing a suit, walking into the arena, that's David August. 1.00

00:57:20.000 He makes impeccable suits. 1.00

00:57:23.000 It's a good look.

00:57:24.000 I started getting into wearing them on stage.

00:57:26.000 When I do arenas, I wear suits.

00:57:27.000 I saw you on with Chappelle you had a suit on.

00:57:30.000 If you feel like it's special.

00:57:32.000 Right.

00:57:32.000 Like I wear these beautiful jackets and everything fits good.

00:57:36.000 You feel like something extra, you know, when you're doing these big ass crowds.

00:57:41.000 Yeah. 0.56

00:57:41.000 I like it. 0.56

00:57:42.000 Burr's got that great joke.

00:57:43.000 He's like, I know a way people are evil.

00:57:45.000 I don't know what the joke is.

00:57:47.000 When I put the suit on, I could feel the evil kind of just like... 0.99

00:57:52.000 You just feel like, I want to take over some shit. 0.99

00:57:55.000 Yeah, there's a feeling of preparedness. 0.99

00:58:00.000 You're prepared for this.

00:58:02.000 This is like, I am a professional.

00:58:04.000 I am here.

00:58:06.000 I've done the work.

00:58:07.000 Look at this clothes.

00:58:08.000 I've got clothes that are designed to fit me.

00:58:11.000 They've been fit and cut and sewed and they fit my form perfectly.

00:58:17.000 It just feels nice.

00:58:18.000 So you get used to that.

00:58:20.000 Is there a sound when it cracks?

00:58:22.000 Can you hear the bone?

00:58:25.000 Like you can hear it?

00:58:26.000 With Chris Weidman, you heard the crack, but I didn't know if it was his shin cracking or just a really hard kick that hit the thigh.

00:58:33.000 It was hard to tell because, you know, I'm not hearing it completely unfiltered.

00:58:38.000 I'm hearing it in my ear and I'm hearing it through a microphone and they're inside that cage and they're, at the time, they're probably like 30 or 40 feet from me.

00:58:46.000 So it's hard to say what you're hearing.

00:58:49.000 You know you're hearing an impact, but with Chris, the kick was so powerful.

00:58:56.000 He threw full blast, like the first kick. 0.99

00:58:59.000 He just decided he was going to fuck Uriah Hall's leg up with the first kick he threw. 0.97

00:59:04.000 So first kick he threw, he throws full power, which you rarely do. 0.99

00:59:08.000 Most guys, they're like...

00:59:10.000 If you watch a guy like Colby Covington, Colby Covington is one of the top welterweights, is known for his cardio.

00:59:17.000 And I had a conversation about this.

00:59:19.000 I go, when you're throwing, I go, you're not throwing 100%.

00:59:21.000 He goes, no, like 60. Like 60, 70%?

00:59:25.000 He goes, somewhere in that range.

00:59:26.000 He goes, every now and then I'll hit him with 100. He goes, well most of the time it's like 60-70%.

00:59:30.000 And it's one of the reasons why the guy has an endless gas tank.

00:59:33.000 Because he's never like full blasting it.

00:59:36.000 Chris Weidman went full blast with that kick right out of the gate.

00:59:39.000 You could tell.

00:59:40.000 Also Uriah Hall is like built like a brick shithouse. 0.86

00:59:43.000 He is.

00:59:44.000 He is.

00:59:44.000 And he's also like super technical.

00:59:46.000 You know, it's hard to catch him clean with something like first shot.

00:59:49.000 He's, you know, he's very poised and ready.

00:59:52.000 Yeah.

00:59:53.000 Colby Covington is entertaining.

00:59:55.000 He's gonna fight in Madison Square Garden for the title.

00:59:57.000 I'm excited about that fight.

00:59:58.000 Do you wanna go?

00:59:58.000 Can I go?

00:59:59.000 Yes.

01:00:00.000 Yeah?

01:00:00.000 Yes.

01:00:01.000 Yeah!

01:00:02.000 Yes.

01:00:02.000 Please, thank you.

01:00:03.000 Yes.

01:00:03.000 I love that.

01:00:04.000 Yeah.

01:00:04.000 Exciting.

01:00:05.000 Yeah.

01:00:05.000 That first fight was great and people were like, I can't believe you're fighting again.

01:00:08.000 It's like, dude, that first fight was great.

01:00:10.000 It was amazing.

01:00:11.000 It was an amazing fight.

01:00:12.000 It was amazing.

01:00:12.000 It was an amazing fight.

01:00:13.000 Yeah, it was amazing. 0.99

01:00:15.000 I mean, look, dude had his fucking jaw broken and still fought another round and a half. 0.99

01:00:19.000 And he's been kicking ass since. 1.00

01:00:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:21.000 Oh, fuck yeah. 0.99

01:00:22.000 Well, listen, Kamaru Usman, the guy he lost to, Is my opinion if there's George St. Pierre's number one, he's number two. 0.99

01:00:29.000 And the only reason why you don't know who would win out of the two of them is because they haven't fought. 0.95

01:00:34.000 But in terms of greatest welterweights of all time, it's tough to fuck with Kamaru Usman. 0.91

01:00:39.000 He's right up there at the top of the food chain.

01:00:41.000 He doesn't have the credentials in terms of the overall volume of impressive victories as a champion because he's only defended he won the title versus Tyron Woodley he beat Colby Covington he beat Gilbert Burns he beat Jorge Masvidal he KO'd Masvidal in the rematch like those are the big fights and they're great impressive fights but George's legacy is so long I mean George was George's legacy is just but George in all fairness I don't

01:01:11.000 think he fought the same caliber of competition as Usman has Is that because the athletes evolved?

01:01:17.000 Exactly.

01:01:18.000 And it's no knock on George.

01:01:21.000 George is still one of the all-time greats.

01:01:24.000 And George, when he came back and stopped Michael Bisping and choked him unconscious, you've got to say, well, Jesus Christ, George is probably even better than he was when he was the champion.

01:01:32.000 Because Bisping is fantastic.

01:01:34.000 But I think that the level of competition that Usman has faced is arguably better.

01:01:41.000 It's such an interesting thing to watch a sport evolve so quickly.

01:01:45.000 Kind of like tennis, I remember it was serving volleyers, and then guys from the...

01:01:49.000 You know, the technology changes, the training changes.

01:01:53.000 And with MMA, there's so many different disciplines that...

01:01:57.000 You don't know which one's gonna start having a bigger impact and then all the guys are gonna and it's now it's the leg kicks it seems.

01:02:03.000 You see guys just get chopped down with those leg kicks and then it's oh you know that they have no power and they can't throw.

01:02:10.000 They can't even move right.

01:02:11.000 They can't move right and like you could see the belts.

01:02:14.000 You can see it like those red belts on the leg.

01:02:16.000 I used to think that those legs didn't do those leg kicks didn't do anything.

01:02:20.000 Has anybody ever leg kicked you?

01:02:22.000 No. 0.86

01:02:22.000 Do you want to get leg kicked? 0.86

01:02:23.000 Only if you do it for America on me. 0.98

01:02:25.000 For America? 0.63

01:02:26.000 Full throttle.

01:02:27.000 No, I would never do a full throttle.

01:02:28.000 Yeah, no, I'd be dead.

01:02:29.000 I'll give you a tap just so you could feel it.

01:02:31.000 But a Joe Rogan kick in the chest may be what I need to just like...

01:02:33.000 Get you going?

01:02:34.000 Get me going.

01:02:34.000 Like a kickstart?

01:02:35.000 Boom! 0.99

01:02:36.000 Dude, you kick hard.

01:02:37.000 Yeah.

01:02:38.000 I'm not kicking you.

01:02:39.000 No, please don't.

01:02:39.000 But to feel a shin on your thigh, just to feel like a thump, it's illuminating.

01:02:46.000 Right.

01:02:47.000 You go, oh, God.

01:02:49.000 Because it's like, just do that to your leg.

01:02:51.000 Right.

01:02:52.000 What is this?

01:02:53.000 Who's this?

01:02:54.000 Oh, Fabricio.

01:02:55.000 That's Fabricio Verdum.

01:02:57.000 Is that a journalist?

01:02:58.000 Oh, that's Aaron True.

01:02:59.000 Oh, I talked to Aaron.

01:03:01.000 Aaron was letting a bunch of people kick him, and I told him at one point in time, I go, Aaron, please stop doing that.

01:03:06.000 And that was only 40%.

01:03:08.000 Fabricio says, only 40%, my friend.

01:03:10.000 You think it's deceptive when you watch it because...

01:03:13.000 Guys don't react that much, they just take the kick.

01:03:15.000 Because they're animals.

01:03:16.000 But it's because they're animals, right?

01:03:18.000 And their legs are very conditioned.

01:03:19.000 They're accustomed to getting beaten up.

01:03:21.000 They develop these really weird veins all over their legs.

01:03:25.000 Like Kevin Randleman, who was one of the all-time greats, former UFC heavyweight champion, he fought Pedro Hizzo.

01:03:32.000 And Pedro Hizzo is, in my opinion, probably the hardest leg kicker that ever existed in MMA. He's this big, giant, Brazilian heavyweight, fantastic kicker.

01:03:42.000 He was so good. 0.96

01:03:43.000 And he fucked up Randleman's leg. 0.98

01:03:44.000 He fucked up Randy Couture's leg so bad that Randy said his leg was fucked up for six months after the fight. 0.99

01:03:51.000 Where it was like sore and lumpy and fucked up. 0.99

01:03:54.000 But Randleman passed away, rest in peace. 0.99

01:03:59.000 But Randleman had these huge welts in his legs till the day he died from Pedro Hizzo.

01:04:05.000 His veins had got destroyed from Hizzo kicking him.

01:04:09.000 And so, like, there's photos, if you find Kevin Randleman's leg damage from Pedro Hizzo... 0.54

01:04:15.000 For the rest of his life, he had these fucked up giant garden hose looking varicose veins in his leg where he got kicked by Pedro Hizzo. 0.94

01:04:24.000 Wow. 0.99

01:04:24.000 Yeah, like he'll change your legs. 0.99

01:04:26.000 Right.

01:04:27.000 Like literally, he'll change your legs. 1.00

01:04:28.000 That's some ill shit to say to somebody. 1.00

01:04:30.000 Bro, Pedro kicks so hard. 1.00

01:04:32.000 I'll change your legs. 1.00

01:04:32.000 I was at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu once in the early 1990s, and Pedro was working out, and he was kicking this heavy bag, and everybody was just like, what? 1.00

01:04:41.000 He was just stepping up, and he was a big guy, you know, 250 pounds, just stepping in.

01:04:48.000 And you would just imagine what that would be like on your leg.

01:04:51.000 Just chop, chop, chop.

01:04:55.000 And he, you know, the UFC gave him a giant contract at one point in time because they were convinced that Pedro was going to be the heavyweight champion of the world.

01:05:02.000 And he had knocked out Josh Barnett.

01:05:04.000 He and Randy Couture and went to war.

01:05:07.000 Not the actor Josh Barnett.

01:05:08.000 Josh Barnett is the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.

01:05:11.000 Ah.

01:05:12.000 He won the title when he was...

01:05:14.000 I want to say he was 24 years old.

01:05:15.000 I think at the time he was the youngest ever, not just heavyweight champion, but he was the youngest ever UFC champion.

01:05:22.000 Yeah.

01:05:23.000 Right on.

01:05:23.000 Still fights.

01:05:24.000 He's still going?

01:05:25.000 Savage.

01:05:26.000 Well, that's after the fight, the swelling in his legs. 0.99

01:05:29.000 His legs were all fucked up and swole. 0.98

01:05:31.000 It's hard to tell from that picture. 1.00

01:05:32.000 They just look like big legs.

01:05:33.000 But Kevin's legs normally were shredded.

01:05:36.000 Right.

01:05:36.000 You would see all the muscle.

01:05:37.000 That's just...

01:05:38.000 See if you could see Kevin's veins.

01:05:41.000 Nothing's coming up.

01:05:42.000 Nothing?

01:05:42.000 Oh, I remember this dude.

01:05:43.000 This dude is built, I mean...

01:05:45.000 Randleman?

01:05:45.000 Yeah.

01:05:45.000 Oh, Randleman was a goddamn tank.

01:05:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:47.000 He was a tank. 1.00

01:05:48.000 He was...

01:05:49.000 He fought in, like, Japan, like, a different...

01:05:51.000 Fought for Pride, yeah.

01:05:53.000 No, he was a spectacular athlete.

01:05:55.000 Yeah, it's not showing it.

01:05:57.000 You'd have to, like, dig deep into the archives.

01:06:00.000 Do you think the UFC... I know, like, certain grapplers, like...

01:06:07.000 Like, the jujitsu guys.

01:06:09.000 What's the one guy, he was really...

01:06:10.000 God, I just can't think of his name.

01:06:13.000 Describe what he looks like.

01:06:15.000 Oh, man.

01:06:16.000 He's like, he was...

01:06:18.000 Strikeforce, he was...

01:06:19.000 But he's all jujitsu.

01:06:22.000 And like, was that... 1.00

01:06:23.000 What's his fucking name? 0.99

01:06:24.000 He was a... 1.00

01:06:25.000 All Jiu Jitsu.

01:06:26.000 Roger Gracie?

01:06:27.000 No, not Gracie.

01:06:28.000 Not the original guys, but...

01:06:30.000 No, that's...

01:06:30.000 Roger fought in Strike Force.

01:06:33.000 Well, my point is...

01:06:34.000 I'll think of his name, but...

01:06:35.000 Nick Diaz?

01:06:36.000 No, not the Diaz brothers, but he's in the camp with the Diaz brothers.

01:06:39.000 He's like the...

01:06:40.000 Crone? 0.65

01:06:41.000 Jake Shields.

01:06:42.000 Jake Shields.

01:06:43.000 Jake Shields.

01:06:43.000 Yeah.

01:06:44.000 So, savage, right?

01:06:45.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 As you would say.

01:06:46.000 Amazing.

01:06:47.000 But his style is kind of, I guess, like, for fans is a little boring.

01:06:51.000 Because he doesn't strike that much.

01:06:53.000 He goes for submissions. 1.00

01:06:55.000 But if he gets a hold of you, you're fucked. 1.00

01:06:56.000 You're fucked. 1.00

01:06:57.000 You're fucked. 1.00

01:06:57.000 It's like a poker trick. 1.00

01:06:58.000 Jake Shields was a monster.

01:06:59.000 Do you think that the...

01:07:00.000 Because I know my taste as a viewer is changing.

01:07:04.000 Like, I'm being conditioned to appreciate the jujitsu and grappling more, the Muay Thai.

01:07:10.000 I'm starting...

01:07:11.000 Like, when it goes to the ground, like, you're starting to hear, I think, less boos.

01:07:15.000 Because I think the watcher is getting more educated.

01:07:18.000 The viewer is getting more educated on, like, how much...

01:07:22.000 Tactical skill is going into what's going on, whereas before it was just like people love seeing strikes, but now my question is that, do you think that that'll be as exciting as the striking in MMA as the viewer gets more educated?

01:07:36.000 It is for some.

01:07:38.000 It is for me, obviously.

01:07:40.000 I have a jujitsu background.

01:07:41.000 You know what's going on.

01:07:42.000 Yeah, but I also appreciate people who figure out how to win.

01:07:47.000 I just love watching people solve puzzles.

01:07:51.000 I like watching people figure out how to beat a guy.

01:07:54.000 And if a guy beats a guy with a submission or if a guy beats a guy with a head kick, for me, it's all exciting.

01:07:59.000 It's all very exciting.

01:08:00.000 But I think for the crowd, knockouts are always going to be first. 0.91

01:08:04.000 Mm-hmm.

01:08:04.000 It's just human nature.

01:08:05.000 Right.

01:08:06.000 Because it makes more sense to people that don't fight.

01:08:08.000 Like, if you look at the audience, if you go to the T-Mobile arena and there's, you know, what does a T-Mobile see, like 18,000, 20,000 people?

01:08:15.000 There's 20,000 people.

01:08:16.000 How many of those people can train?

01:08:17.000 How many of those people know striking or jujitsu or how many of those people have ever been kicked?

01:08:23.000 Maybe 4,000, 5,000, right?

01:08:26.000 So for most people, they know what's happening if a guy gets kicked in the face.

01:08:32.000 You get kicked in the face and your head snaps back and you flatline and fall back. 1.00

01:08:36.000 Everybody's like, oh shit! 1.00

01:08:38.000 There's an oh shit moment to knockouts that just don't exist in submissions. 0.99

01:08:42.000 Submissions are amazing, but... 0.96

01:08:45.000 I think you have to kind of appreciate what a guy's doing or a girl's doing in order to be able to really enjoy a submission the way you enjoy a strike, a knockout.

01:08:54.000 You're right.

01:08:55.000 At starting note, it'd feel exciting when you see a guy get his hooks in and, like, that battle.

01:09:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:01.000 That battle when he's defending and, like, he gets one arm.

01:09:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:04.000 It's like that anticipation.

01:09:06.000 Yeah.

01:09:07.000 It's starting to feel exciting as a viewer.

01:09:09.000 I'm just saying from somebody who doesn't know how to do any of that stuff.

01:09:13.000 As a fan, that stuff is starting to feel more exciting than it used to feel for me.

01:09:18.000 I think so for sure.

01:09:19.000 I think people are getting more educated about the sport, the more fights they watch.

01:09:23.000 And the more they see like...

01:09:24.000 Khabib, for a perfect example.

01:09:26.000 Khabib chokes everybody out. 0.68

01:09:28.000 And he's like one of the greatest, no, if not the greatest.

01:09:30.000 There's a real argument that Khabib's the greatest of all time.

01:09:33.000 And again, doesn't have the accolades that Jon Jones has. 0.99

01:09:37.000 And I know Jon Jones has one loss on his record, but it's a bullshit loss. 0.77

01:09:40.000 It's a disqualification of a fight with Matt Hamill where he was destroying him.

01:09:44.000 So you can make the argument that Jon Jones is undefeated, and I think you should make that argument, because nobody really defeated him.

01:09:50.000 Even though he has a loss on his record, no one beat him.

01:09:54.000 Khabib is undefeated, he retired at, what was it, 29-0, and dominated everybody.

01:10:02.000 No one was even close.

01:10:04.000 Jon Jones had a couple of split decisions.

01:10:05.000 Reyes, that Reyes fight. 0.97

01:10:06.000 Reyes fight was fucking close. 0.98

01:10:08.000 Close. 0.99

01:10:08.000 Fucking close. 0.99

01:10:09.000 So is the Tiago Santos fight. 0.99

01:10:12.000 Fucking close. 0.98

01:10:14.000 Close fights. 0.98

01:10:14.000 There's no close fights in Khabib's history. 0.98

01:10:17.000 There's no close fights. 0.99

01:10:18.000 Everybody gets fucking mauled. 0.99

01:10:20.000 Everybody smash. 1.00

01:10:21.000 Send me location.

01:10:23.000 Send location.

01:10:25.000 My favorite quote was with him with Conor McGregor.

01:10:27.000 He goes, I want to change his face.

01:10:28.000 Change his face.

01:10:29.000 Change his face.

01:10:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:32.000 Bro, Khabib was the fucking man. 1.00

01:10:34.000 He was the fucking man. 1.00

01:10:35.000 And, you know, think about it. 1.00

01:10:36.000 He beat Dustin Poirier, submission.

01:10:38.000 Justin Gaethje, submission.

01:10:40.000 Conor McGregor, submission.

01:10:42.000 He submitted all those guys.

01:10:43.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 And nobody cared.

01:10:45.000 They just were excited to watch Khabib fight.

01:10:47.000 It could be because of him.

01:10:48.000 You know, it's like usually it's a certain athlete that does something real well that enlightens people.

01:10:54.000 To that aspect of the game.

01:10:55.000 It could be because of him.

01:10:56.000 Those crowds were lit.

01:10:58.000 When he was on Conor's back, you could hear it.

01:11:03.000 That Poirier fight, too.

01:11:05.000 He gets in his back.

01:11:09.000 That anticipation of the choke is exciting.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, when a guy gets out that's really exciting like when a guy somehow gets out when like the hooks are in and what one-arms in but somehow a guy gets out that's exciting too.

01:11:22.000 That thing he did to Conor was so nasty too because he wasn't even under the chin.

01:11:25.000 He was like a crank, right?

01:11:27.000 It's called a fulcrum choke Dean Lister explained it he after the fight was over he did a thing on his Instagram page where he explained the technique and And it's not a move that I've ever used.

01:11:39.000 It's like in that position, I've always gone to like, there's a move where you pull the neck this way and you pull the body that way.

01:11:49.000 Like you do what's called a gable grip on the neck and you're pulling the neck this way.

01:11:55.000 And then with your lower legs, you're pulling the body another way. 0.61

01:11:58.000 Ow! 1.00

01:11:59.000 And you've got a guy like really fucking twisted up and yanked. 0.98

01:12:03.000 And it's very, very painful. 0.98

01:12:04.000 But I think Khabib's is even better.

01:12:07.000 Because Khabib is going across the jaw. 0.98

01:12:09.000 And then he's putting this forearm, this part right here, behind your back.

01:12:14.000 So as he's gripping, he's got your head wrapped up in his arm.

01:12:19.000 And then he's got this pressing against your back.

01:12:21.000 And he uses that as a lever.

01:12:23.000 And he's cranking your neck.

01:12:24.000 So he's using the elbow as a fulcrum to crank your neck.

01:12:28.000 And you see Conor at the end of the fight.

01:12:30.000 See if you can find the finish.

01:12:32.000 That's medieval.

01:12:33.000 It's medieval.

01:12:33.000 So it wasn't even that he was choked out.

01:12:36.000 He wasn't choking him.

01:12:36.000 He was just pain.

01:12:37.000 Neck cranking him.

01:12:38.000 Wow! 0.81

01:12:38.000 Yeah, he was smashing his neck. 0.81

01:12:40.000 I didn't know that.

01:12:40.000 He was smashing his neck.

01:12:41.000 But it's not even the greatest submission of all time.

01:12:44.000 The greatest, the most painful neck submission of all time was in one fighting championship.

01:12:50.000 This guy...

01:12:51.000 Let me show this one first.

01:12:53.000 Find Connor Submits Khabib. 1.00

01:12:56.000 Because if you see the way he's doing it, it's very sophisticated.

01:13:00.000 It's very smart.

01:13:02.000 Yeah, here it goes.

01:13:04.000 So he gets on top of him.

01:13:05.000 I remember there was like a scramble when he was on all fours, right?

01:13:08.000 He goes against the wall.

01:13:09.000 He's smashing him.

01:13:10.000 He's got full mount here.

01:13:12.000 He's got one three-quarter mount, but he's basically mounted.

01:13:15.000 He can pull that foot out if he wants to.

01:13:16.000 He's talking to him the whole time.

01:13:17.000 Send me location.

01:13:18.000 He goes, let's talk now.

01:13:19.000 Let's talk now.

01:13:20.000 So he gets his back, and then when Connor tries to scramble to his feet, just scooch ahead a little bit there.

01:13:29.000 Now, when Conor...

01:13:31.000 It's a little bit more.

01:13:32.000 Conor tries to get to his feet.

01:13:34.000 Right there.

01:13:34.000 Go right there.

01:13:37.000 So now he's taking his back.

01:13:38.000 And when he takes his back, he gets his arm under.

01:13:41.000 Conor tucks his chin.

01:13:42.000 See how he tucks his chin?

01:13:44.000 But look where his left forearm is.

01:13:46.000 See his left forearm?

01:13:47.000 It's pushing against the back.

01:13:48.000 So the choke is not in.

01:13:50.000 It's on the chin.

01:13:51.000 But the way he's gripping it and the way he's pushing his left forearm against the back of Conor and then yanking on his neck.

01:13:58.000 Go ahead, play it out.

01:14:00.000 Oh, he's pulling it back.

01:14:01.000 Yeah, see?

01:14:02.000 It's a fulcrum.

01:14:04.000 It's a fulcrum.

01:14:04.000 So he's yanking it back and pushing the bottom half of his body down?

01:14:08.000 That's not even the worst choke.

01:14:09.000 You want to see the worst choke? 0.69

01:14:10.000 I'm going to show the worst choke.

01:14:11.000 Look up nastiest submission ever won fighting championship.

01:14:17.000 I don't even know who the dude is that did this technique.

01:14:20.000 We'll give him credit after the fight.

01:14:22.000 But he basically got the guy's back and then flattened the guy out on the ground and with his arm under his neck, pushed...

01:14:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:32.000 Exactly.

01:14:32.000 Watch this.

01:14:33.000 It's in the top 20 thing, but it's the main thumbnail. 0.99

01:14:36.000 It's fucking nasty. 0.99

01:14:38.000 Like when you go, this guy might be dead. 0.99

01:14:41.000 Like he moves his, he's got like a rear naked choke, but instead of going like rear naked choke where he's sinking in like this, he basically flattens the guy out on his back and then he pulls his neck forward like this.

01:14:56.000 Like all the way.

01:14:57.000 So the guy's neck is like his face is pressed up against...

01:15:02.000 So he's choking him with his own body.

01:15:03.000 He's got his forehead on the center of his chest.

01:15:06.000 Is that called anything or is it just like...

01:15:08.000 Death.

01:15:09.000 It's called death.

01:15:09.000 So it doesn't have a move call.

01:15:10.000 It's just the dude was getting nasty with him.

01:15:13.000 It's like a variation of a choke from the back, but he doesn't have any hooks in.

01:15:17.000 He just figured out...

01:15:19.000 Instead of...

01:15:19.000 The hooks are like you're trying to control the guy's body while you submit from the neck.

01:15:25.000 But what he's doing is he's got the guy flattened out.

01:15:27.000 And then because he has his head trapped, he forces his face forward.

01:15:33.000 It's horrifying.

01:15:34.000 I want to see this.

01:15:35.000 It's the most horrifying submission I've ever seen.

01:15:37.000 I think it was...

01:15:41.000 That's it.

01:15:42.000 That's it.

01:15:42.000 Go ahead.

01:15:43.000 Go ahead.

01:15:43.000 Go ahead a little further.

01:15:48.000 Go, uh...

01:15:50.000 Right before that.

01:15:51.000 No, no.

01:15:52.000 That's not it.

01:15:52.000 That's a regular one.

01:15:53.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:15:54.000 Is this all of his...

01:15:55.000 It was in the thumbnail, and unfortunately it's not like the number one of 20. Scooch up.

01:16:00.000 Scooch up. 0.97

01:16:00.000 I'm trying to find it. 0.97

01:16:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:01.000 See, just scroll through.

01:16:02.000 It's got to be number one.

01:16:03.000 It's not.

01:16:04.000 What?

01:16:04.000 I started at the end.

01:16:05.000 That's why I'm starting to scroll.

01:16:06.000 I took too long to scroll through.

01:16:07.000 Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.

01:16:11.000 Let me see if I can recognize it.

01:16:13.000 Yeah, I know the picture I'm looking for now.

01:16:15.000 I don't see the guy being flattened out like that.

01:16:18.000 It was horrific, dude.

01:16:20.000 Like, I'm telling you, out of all the thousand people that I've seen get choked unconscious, this was number one.

01:16:28.000 You may be one of the only people on the planet that's seen that many people get choked out.

01:16:32.000 I think there's probably a few jujitsu guys that have seen more people get choked out.

01:16:37.000 But you're up there.

01:16:38.000 Yeah, I'm in the top 100. Go to the very end.

01:16:41.000 It's got to be number one.

01:16:42.000 How could it not be number one?

01:16:44.000 I know.

01:16:45.000 It's some guy just doing his career.

01:16:48.000 Go back a little.

01:16:49.000 I think this is it.

01:16:50.000 Go back.

01:16:51.000 See, he's got his arm.

01:16:52.000 Nope, that's not it.

01:16:56.000 That's like the end of the video.

01:16:57.000 Wow.

01:16:58.000 What is this one?

01:16:59.000 Very similar.

01:17:01.000 No, that's not it.

01:17:02.000 It's that picture right there.

01:17:04.000 Is that triangle choke?

01:17:05.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:17:06.000 That's the picture.

01:17:07.000 But it's not.

01:17:08.000 Where's that one?

01:17:09.000 Well, find out who that is.

01:17:13.000 I would think it would just have been right there.

01:17:15.000 Why would they not say that that's number one?

01:17:18.000 How could that...

01:17:19.000 Wait a minute.

01:17:19.000 What does it say?

01:17:20.000 It said top 20. But if you put your thing in there, you let the video scroll a little bit.

01:17:24.000 Do that back again.

01:17:26.000 It starts showing other parts of the video.

01:17:28.000 19. Number 19. That's it.

01:17:30.000 That's the one I stopped on.

01:17:32.000 And that's not it?

01:17:33.000 No.

01:17:34.000 Hmm.

01:17:35.000 This could be it.

01:17:36.000 Because it's a guy in black and white.

01:17:37.000 No, that's a triangle.

01:17:38.000 He's going to get him in an arm bar.

01:17:41.000 That's not it either.

01:17:42.000 We got stuck looking at this now.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:45.000 I guess once you feel that arm under your neck, you know it's over.

01:17:50.000 Oh, you know what?

01:17:51.000 Go to One's Instagram page.

01:17:53.000 They have it on their Instagram page.

01:17:55.000 If you go to their Instagram page...

01:17:58.000 Let me see.

01:18:06.000 Hip-hop is dead.

01:18:08.000 See, now I got Nas stuck in my head.

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:13.000 I know they had it on their Instagram page recently.

01:18:16.000 This is like when something's on the tip of your tongue and you can't... 0.98

01:18:18.000 This is driving me fucking crazy. 0.93

01:18:20.000 This is like when I was doing Jake Shields. 0.98

01:18:22.000 I was like, what's his name?

01:18:22.000 Oh, wait a minute.

01:18:23.000 Hold on.

01:18:23.000 Scroll up a little bit.

01:18:25.000 What's that one on the left-hand side?

01:18:27.000 What's the date of that one?

01:18:31.000 Five days ago.

01:18:32.000 Okay, it's somewhere in that range.

01:18:38.000 Wait a minute, scroll up a little?

01:18:39.000 Scroll up a little?

01:18:40.000 Is that it right there?

01:18:41.000 No, one guy's wearing black, one guy's wearing white trunks.

01:18:44.000 Okay. 1.00

01:18:45.000 Fucking... 1.00

01:18:45.000 I'm just looking for that. 1.00

01:18:46.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:18:47.000 Fucking fuck, fuck. 1.00

01:18:48.000 I know. 1.00

01:18:48.000 I want to go back to the video. 1.00

01:18:49.000 God damn it. 0.99

01:18:51.000 I'll take your word. 1.00

01:18:52.000 I'll try to visualize it.

01:18:53.000 I feel like I can find it.

01:18:54.000 Like, nastiest submission ever.

01:18:56.000 This is the most drawn-out moment we've ever had on the podcast.

01:19:02.000 It's like we went to the library and we're looking through microfiche.

01:19:05.000 F.C. That ain't it.

01:19:11.000 God damn it. 0.97

01:19:13.000 Yeah, I don't know why it's in the thumbnail and then it's not. 0.99

01:19:15.000 That's bad YouTubing.

01:19:19.000 That's gonna be it. 0.99

01:19:22.000 Damn it. 0.99

01:19:24.000 It's a gangster way to end the fight, though. 1.00

01:19:26.000 It's take away someone's oxygen, like COVID. It's worse than taking someone's oxygen away because the guy basically...

01:19:33.000 I'll find it.

01:19:33.000 All right.

01:19:34.000 I'll Google it.

01:19:34.000 Jamie's going to find it.

01:19:36.000 It's worse.

01:19:37.000 You want a cigar?

01:19:39.000 Yeah, I just put a snooze in, but I'll smoke a cigar.

01:19:42.000 You put a snooze in?

01:19:43.000 Yeah.

01:19:43.000 Do you like those things?

01:19:45.000 Yeah.

01:19:46.000 Those make me nervous.

01:19:47.000 I do.

01:19:48.000 They don't make me feel good.

01:19:49.000 No?

01:19:50.000 Cigars make me relaxed.

01:19:51.000 Cigars are great conversation enhancers.

01:19:54.000 Yeah, that's snooze stuff that makes me want them.

01:19:58.000 Barf.

01:19:58.000 Yeah.

01:19:58.000 Because you've got to drink down the tobacco juice.

01:20:00.000 I know.

01:20:01.000 It's nasty.

01:20:01.000 Yeah.

01:20:02.000 You like it?

01:20:02.000 I do love it.

01:20:03.000 Did you smoke cigarettes?

01:20:03.000 Yeah, well, I stopped and then I started and my wife caught me with a coat.

01:20:07.000 You know, this is how you get caught when she just sent me a picture of the pack she found.

01:20:12.000 I was like, alright.

01:20:13.000 And then she gave me, you know, my daughter's not gonna... 1.00

01:20:16.000 You have a child.

01:20:16.000 Yeah, you have a child.

01:20:18.000 I get it.

01:20:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:20:19.000 Yeah, my wife says the same shit when I get in an ice bath for 20 minutes. 1.00

01:20:25.000 In the middle of the morning, I woke up to get up to work out, and she goes, are you okay? 1.00

01:20:31.000 I'm fine.

01:20:32.000 I feel great.

01:20:32.000 Don't worry about it.

01:20:33.000 Yeah, I mean, that would be a funny way to go, though.

01:20:36.000 Just hypothermia.

01:20:37.000 For me?

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:38.000 For me, it'd be a perfect way to go. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Look at that fucking moron. 1.00

01:20:41.000 Look at him. 1.00

01:20:43.000 Is that a flighter?

01:20:45.000 This is an all-in-one.

01:20:48.000 I think this one's out of juice.

01:20:50.000 Is it?

01:20:51.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 Oh, sorry.

01:20:53.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:20:57.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

01:20:59.000 You're fine, Jared? 1.00

01:21:00.000 They have another article where they have the picture in the top on 1FC's website.

01:21:04.000 They have a picture of it.

01:21:06.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:21:06.000 It says top 10 submissions and it's not listed in the top 10 submissions.

01:21:10.000 What?

01:21:11.000 Well...

01:21:11.000 Unless it's one of these they don't have something else of, but...

01:21:13.000 Terminator guillotine.

01:21:14.000 Isn't that it?

01:21:16.000 This?

01:21:16.000 What did I say?

01:21:17.000 That's that.

01:21:18.000 Is that it?

01:21:20.000 No...

01:21:21.000 No, it's not.

01:21:22.000 That's a different...

01:21:23.000 That's a guillotine. 0.97

01:21:24.000 That's like a guillotine from behind. 0.98

01:21:27.000 Seven...

01:21:27.000 It's not in the list?

01:21:30.000 A gogoplata? 0.66

01:21:31.000 No, it's definitely not.

01:21:32.000 A gogoplata is your leg. 0.90

01:21:33.000 I didn't think it was any of these.

01:21:35.000 Could be this maestro choke, but...

01:21:38.000 Mm-hmm.

01:21:39.000 It might be just people...

01:21:40.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:21:40.000 That's it.

01:21:41.000 Okay.

01:21:41.000 That's it.

01:21:42.000 That's it.

01:21:42.000 So let me...

01:21:43.000 So pull up that guy's name.

01:21:46.000 So do you...

01:21:46.000 Yeah, that is it.

01:21:46.000 Maestro Sajuev.

01:21:48.000 Yeah.

01:21:49.000 That's it.

01:21:50.000 That's 100% it.

01:21:52.000 That's definitely...

01:21:53.000 Okay, here we go.

01:21:54.000 Here we go.

01:21:55.000 It's still like... 1.00

01:21:55.000 You fucks! 1.00

01:21:56.000 I checked most of these videos and it wasn't in it. 1.00

01:21:58.000 I tell you what... 1.00

01:21:59.000 You sons of bitches. 1.00

01:22:00.000 That is the choke. 1.00

01:22:01.000 The way you described it is probably worth the wait.

01:22:03.000 It's not.

01:22:05.000 That's it.

01:22:06.000 That is it.

01:22:06.000 Jesus Christ.

01:22:07.000 There it is.

01:22:08.000 That's 100% it.

01:22:09.000 Okay, now you're gonna see.

01:22:10.000 He's trying to find a G-spot. 0.98

01:22:12.000 So he catches the choke, right?

01:22:16.000 But then he turns him the other way.

01:22:18.000 Look at this.

01:22:20.000 You gotta see it from other angles, though.

01:22:23.000 They'll show it in other angles.

01:22:25.000 Dude, I'm telling you, it is so nasty.

01:22:27.000 Look at this, look at this.

01:22:28.000 Look at that, right there. 0.98

01:22:29.000 He's gonna pop his neck off. 0.87

01:22:31.000 Yeah, it looks like his head's gonna go flying off into the audience. 0.81

01:22:35.000 What is that gentleman's name?

01:22:38.000 Yousup.

01:22:38.000 Yousup Sadulev.

01:22:41.000 Yousup Sadulev versus Jordan Lucas.

01:22:44.000 Sorry, folks.

01:22:45.000 I'm so sorry that I dragged you through this. 0.99

01:22:47.000 If you're in your car, parked, waiting to go to work, going, what the fuck, Rogan? 0.99

01:22:51.000 It was worth it, though. 0.99

01:22:52.000 I'm sorry.

01:22:53.000 I'll tell you what.

01:22:54.000 Nasty, right?

01:22:54.000 If there's ever a matchup between a dude named, what was his name?

01:22:59.000 Jordan what?

01:23:00.000 Lucas.

01:23:00.000 Lucas and the other guy's name is Vusnisni.

01:23:02.000 I'm going with the Vusnisni every time. 1.00

01:23:05.000 Those dudes are killers. 0.98

01:23:06.000 They're in a different world right now. 0.89

01:23:08.000 There's so many assassins from that part of the world that are coming over to either 1FC or the UFC. I mean, the UFC has so many guys from Dagestan that are just dominating.

01:23:18.000 I mean, first of all, you had Khabib.

01:23:20.000 Now you got Islam Makachev. 1.00

01:23:22.000 And that other dude who's like lanky, the tall guy.

01:23:24.000 Oh yeah, Zabit Magomed Shapirov.

01:23:26.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:23:27.000 And then there's a fucking whole boatload of them ready to take over that are next. 0.98

01:23:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:23:32.000 They're assassins, man. 1.00

01:23:33.000 They just wrestle with bears and then they get off the plane.

01:23:36.000 Khabib goes, I'm a mountain man.

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 Just saying that, I'm a mountain man.

01:23:41.000 Yeah.

01:23:42.000 They're scary people, man.

01:23:43.000 I remember when, yeah...

01:23:45.000 Somebody was like a fight in the street.

01:23:48.000 He's like, there's no street here.

01:23:49.000 I'm from Real Mountain.

01:23:50.000 Yeah.

01:23:51.000 From Real Mountain.

01:23:52.000 What is street?

01:23:52.000 You know, I have a street fight.

01:23:54.000 Like he was saying, it doesn't exist where you're from.

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:57.000 What is street fight?

01:23:59.000 Street fight, where he comes from, is like fighting wild animals who have nature strength.

01:24:03.000 Well, those guys, from the moment they're young, they're just...

01:24:07.000 They're hard men.

01:24:09.000 This is just like...

01:24:10.000 This is the life.

01:24:11.000 That's the path.

01:24:12.000 It's combat sports.

01:24:13.000 You ever see him play basketball?

01:24:14.000 Who?

01:24:15.000 Khabib?

01:24:15.000 Yes.

01:24:16.000 No.

01:24:17.000 Will Harris, who is...

01:24:20.000 Well, who's got the best footage of that? 0.91

01:24:23.000 I've seen a few more now where people are like, what the fuck are the rules of this game?

01:24:29.000 Oh, I saw that! 0.99

01:24:30.000 I saw that where it was like jail rules, but like Dagestani jail rules where you could like kill a guy. 0.54

01:24:36.000 Yeah.

01:24:36.000 And they're just like, okay, side out.

01:24:39.000 I got a video of Crow Cop doing it, I think. 0.99

01:24:43.000 They call it MMA basketball.

01:24:44.000 Yeah, Will Harris is the best.

01:24:46.000 Will Harris, who does the best MMA documentary footage in all of the sport.

01:24:52.000 He's the best.

01:24:53.000 And Will's been on the podcast before. 0.99

01:24:54.000 He does amazing shit. 0.85

01:24:56.000 I thought he worked for the UFC at one point in time because they use so much of his footage. 0.98

01:25:01.000 But he's an independent guy. 0.97

01:25:02.000 He's fucking phenomenal. 0.98

01:25:03.000 And he lived in Dagestan with these guys. 0.99

01:25:06.000 I saw that.

01:25:06.000 The guy that did the series on it.

01:25:08.000 Yes.

01:25:08.000 The docuseries.

01:25:09.000 Will's amazing.

01:25:10.000 He's amazing.

01:25:12.000 Well, Will filmed this thing that they do where they play basketball, but they wrestle with submissions.

01:25:19.000 I saw it, yeah.

01:25:20.000 So they take each other down on the hardwood floor, and they get each other in arm bars, and if you tap, then they switch to a choke, and then you tap.

01:25:26.000 They're like, keep control of you.

01:25:28.000 It's like, what is this game?

01:25:30.000 I don't know.

01:25:31.000 All I know is I see a pattern in every sport.

01:25:34.000 You see the Olympics now?

01:25:35.000 Like, do we have any Americans on top of any sport?

01:25:39.000 In basketball right now, it's like Giannis.

01:25:42.000 Giannis is the best player.

01:25:43.000 Then in the UFC, it's like all Nigerians are dominating. 0.91

01:25:47.000 Well, there's still some great fighters that are Americans.

01:25:51.000 There's great fighters from all nationalities, but there's no denying that in MMA there's a lot of Dagestanis.

01:25:57.000 Follow Will Harris Productions on Instagram.

01:25:59.000 That's his Instagram. 0.98

01:26:00.000 And his YouTube page is fucking amazing. 0.99

01:26:03.000 Anatomy of a Fighter. 0.93

01:26:04.000 He does a lot of great footage.

01:26:06.000 He gets right in there with these guys and he embeds himself in their camp.

01:26:11.000 So you get the kind of footage that's really not possible if you just have like...

01:26:15.000 You know, cursory coverage where you're just like, okay guys for the next couple hours gonna film you working out.

01:26:20.000 No, he's like there with them all the time and he's curating the best footage.

01:26:25.000 So there's no dribbling the ball.

01:26:27.000 They're trying to shoot the ball, but they're wrestling each other.

01:26:29.000 Look, they're throwing each other to the ground.

01:26:31.000 There's no fouls. 0.99

01:26:33.000 And then they have a mat over near where the fucking hoop is. 1.00

01:26:38.000 There's a wrestling mat. 0.99

01:26:39.000 So occasionally they take each other down.

01:26:41.000 They just decide to start wrestling on the mat.

01:26:43.000 It's like madness.

01:26:45.000 It's a pretty nice shot by Khabib right there.

01:26:47.000 Curry range.

01:26:47.000 Not a bad shot, but there's no dribbling.

01:26:50.000 Yeah, no dribbling.

01:26:51.000 Which is funny.

01:26:52.000 It's more like rugby.

01:26:53.000 Yeah, it's more like a basketball rugby tie.

01:26:55.000 Yeah, this is like rugby right here.

01:26:56.000 Yeah, look at this.

01:26:57.000 Guys are blocking.

01:26:58.000 Yeah.

01:26:59.000 But the crazy thing is they're doing it on hardwood.

01:27:02.000 Yeah.

01:27:03.000 You know, they're not doing this on a wrestling mat.

01:27:05.000 Now, are we sure that he didn't just do this because he knew it was an American journalist and they wanted to do, like, a diplomat?

01:27:11.000 Like, hey, we play basketball, too.

01:27:13.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:27:15.000 They do that constantly, man.

01:27:17.000 They do it all the time.

01:27:18.000 There's a lot of footage of it.

01:27:19.000 But I think about it.

01:27:20.000 It's like, um, Yannis and, uh, what's his name from Slovenia is, like, the best...

01:27:25.000 Everything is, like, the rest of the world is beating us.

01:27:30.000 Look now, our gymnasts are retiring because they're sad.

01:27:34.000 See, this is what everybody's saying about that girl.

01:27:36.000 I think a thing about that girl is her ADHD medication. 1.00

01:27:40.000 The deepest I could find was people discussing that.

01:27:43.000 So then I outside looked up Ritalin in Japan.

01:27:47.000 Turns out that currently the only drug used to treat ADHD that is legal in Japan is called Concerta.

01:27:54.000 While Ritalin is available in Japan to treat sleep disorders, it's not prescribed for ADHD. Imagine giving you speed for sleep disorders.

01:28:01.000 Yeah.

01:28:02.000 What?

01:28:02.000 But it's not illegal though, right?

01:28:04.000 It says you maybe could get it.

01:28:08.000 It's very hard to get.

01:28:09.000 And then she could be not on it because it was hard for her to get a TUE. Because Japan rules Trump.

01:28:15.000 Olympic rules.

01:28:16.000 I think that's what's going on.

01:28:17.000 If you go to, I believe it was Chris Bell's Instagram page.

01:28:22.000 I saw him tweet it.

01:28:23.000 I think you go to Big Strong Fast on Instagram.

01:28:26.000 I think Chris Bell covered it.

01:28:28.000 And he's discussing.

01:28:29.000 What exactly is happening with that girl? 1.00

01:28:32.000 So that's something that people needed to take it. 1.00

01:28:34.000 So many people are shitting on her online and calling her a coward. 1.00

01:28:37.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

01:28:38.000 Like, you have no idea what's going on in her head. 0.98

01:28:41.000 Is she supposed to play when she's suicidal?

01:28:44.000 Is she supposed to play when she's freaking out?

01:28:46.000 Is she supposed to do gymnastics when she's literally losing her mind? 0.96

01:28:50.000 When people get off prescription drugs, like, Jordan Peterson was fucked up for a whole year when he was trying to get off benzodiazepine. 0.89

01:28:59.000 I don't know what it's like to get off Ritalin, but I would imagine it's not fun. 0.57

01:29:03.000 Right.

01:29:04.000 Yeah, it's withdrawal.

01:29:05.000 Who knows?

01:29:06.000 The stuff that that girl has done. 1.00

01:29:08.000 I mean, she's the goat by a lot. 0.99

01:29:10.000 I mean, she does stuff that's like superhuman. 1.00

01:29:12.000 Here it goes.

01:29:13.000 Simone Biles ADHD meds among common drugs banned from Olympics.

01:29:17.000 So Simone Biles has revealed that she has ADHD and takes Ritalin for it. 1.00

01:29:22.000 Correction, it was first told, Adderall in the article has looked it up.

01:29:25.000 It's Ritalin.

01:29:26.000 Very similar.

01:29:27.000 He says, sorry.

01:29:28.000 She received a therapeutic use exemption for it in 2016 and took home four gold medals in Rio.

01:29:34.000 Fast forward to Tokyo 2020 and Ritalin and Adderall is 100% illegal in Japan under all circumstances, including therapeutic use.

01:29:41.000 It is unfortunate because I'm sure we'd love to see her compete, but it makes sense that she couldn't focus.

01:29:48.000 That does make sense.

01:29:49.000 See, now, why are we not hearing this?

01:29:52.000 Why am I getting this only from Chris Bell, who, by the way, made an incredible documentary, Bigger, Stronger, Faster, which is a documentary on steroids, and then another documentary, Prescription Thugs, which is about prescription medication. 0.98

01:30:05.000 He does great shit. 0.81

01:30:06.000 So I guess at this point it's either that's true or what Jamie pulled up before is true. 0.99

01:30:10.000 Like we're not sure because Jamie's saying the article he wrote is not illegal.

01:30:14.000 I bet it might be illegal for competition.

01:30:16.000 It might be illegal as a therapeutic use exemption.

01:30:19.000 You might not be able to get one of those.

01:30:20.000 Right.

01:30:21.000 Whatever Chris is saying.

01:30:23.000 But it's a complicated story.

01:30:26.000 I mean, this girl, she won four gold medals in Rio.

01:30:29.000 She's not a chicken. 1.00

01:30:31.000 She's the best of all time by all people's accounts. 0.99

01:30:34.000 Aren't they changing rules because she can do shit that other people can't do? 1.00

01:30:37.000 She's insane. 1.00

01:30:39.000 She like flies through the air. 1.00

01:30:41.000 It's incredible.

01:30:42.000 There was a video that was describing how they're literally altering the rules to make what she does less impressive.

01:30:50.000 Right.

01:30:50.000 Or scores less, whatever.

01:30:53.000 Right.

01:30:53.000 I don't follow gymnastics.

01:30:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:30:55.000 I mean, most people don't until the Olympics.

01:30:57.000 Right.

01:30:57.000 That's the thing about Olympic sports.

01:30:59.000 These people, that must be a weird come down.

01:31:02.000 The whole world's watching you, and then you've got to go back to working at Panera Bread.

01:31:06.000 That's weird.

01:31:07.000 Yeah.

01:31:08.000 You're just a swimmer or like a shot put guy.

01:31:10.000 You win a gold and then you're just back to handing out buzzers.

01:31:15.000 How much money do you make for a shot put?

01:31:17.000 I don't think they make anything from the Olympics.

01:31:19.000 You win the Olympics and then what?

01:31:22.000 You just teach shot put to people that also can't make money?

01:31:25.000 I have this new sports podcast.

01:31:28.000 You do?

01:31:29.000 What's it called?

01:31:30.000 Undefeated.

01:31:31.000 I'm sorry, it's not called Undefeated.

01:31:33.000 You're lying.

01:31:34.000 Sorry, I had a little...

01:31:35.000 Who's lying?

01:31:35.000 No, it's called Unleashed.

01:31:36.000 I'm sorry.

01:31:37.000 It's called Unleashed for Bad MGM with me and Olivia Harland-Decker.

01:31:43.000 And she's a sports journalist.

01:31:44.000 But we interviewed Kerry Strung.

01:31:47.000 Who is that?

01:31:48.000 She's the one in 96 who her ankle was done, she limped in, and then she needed a certain score for them to win gold, and then they won gold. 0.85

01:32:00.000 She did it with a bad ankle? 0.89

01:32:01.000 A lot of people are comparing the situation.

01:32:04.000 Oh, saying that that girl gutted it out?

01:32:06.000 Well, she was forced to by her coach, and then they're going to like, that's the whole bad coaching situation with gymnastics.

01:32:13.000 Yeah, we interviewed her.

01:32:15.000 She was all business.

01:32:16.000 Wasn't a good interview?

01:32:18.000 Huh?

01:32:18.000 Wasn't fun?

01:32:19.000 I'm just saying it was all business.

01:32:21.000 What do you mean?

01:32:21.000 It was just a serious kind of interview.

01:32:23.000 Was it live in person?

01:32:24.000 No, it was Zoom.

01:32:25.000 That's a problem.

01:32:26.000 It's always weird in Zoom.

01:32:27.000 Zoom's too disconnected.

01:32:29.000 It was great.

01:32:30.000 But she was saying that...

01:32:32.000 Have you seen Athlete A? The documentary?

01:32:38.000 No.

01:32:38.000 Dude, it's called Athlete A? It's disturbing.

01:32:43.000 These girls are abused. 1.00

01:32:44.000 That dude, Nassar, molested for 20 years with impunity. 0.88

01:32:52.000 That's the doctor.

01:32:53.000 The doctor from, I believe, Michigan.

01:32:56.000 He's on Team USA. And again, it was like this...

01:33:00.000 You know, bureaucratic cover-up.

01:33:02.000 Like, there was complaints about him, and they covered it up.

01:33:06.000 They, you know, they overlooked these allegations. 0.94

01:33:11.000 And it was like, the dude was like a hardcore pedophile who was, like, molesting these women. 0.85

01:33:16.000 I mean, these girls. 0.97

01:33:18.000 I mean, a lot of them are girls. 0.99

01:33:19.000 He's like, they're girls.

01:33:20.000 I mean, they're young children. 1.00

01:33:22.000 He was, like, inserting fingers in their anus and in their vaginas. 1.00

01:33:25.000 And for years and years and years and years and years... 0.99

01:33:28.000 And, you know, Simone Biles was part of that.

01:33:31.000 All these girls testified against him.

01:33:33.000 And that was before...

01:33:35.000 Kerry Strong's era didn't really deal with that, but they dealt with the Carolis, who were like these... 1.00

01:33:41.000 What are they, Romanian or something?

01:33:42.000 Like the husband, wife... 0.89

01:33:45.000 And they were like abusive and brutal.

01:33:47.000 But when we interviewed Carrie, she was like, you know, it was like she didn't seem like she was bothered by it.

01:33:51.000 But these girls go through a lot, dude.

01:33:54.000 They sacrifice a lot.

01:33:56.000 And they're like pushed and abused with their bodies.

01:34:00.000 And so Carrie Strong, the documentary portrays that moment, the Athlete A documentary portrays that moment as like an abusive moment because her ankle was hurt.

01:34:11.000 You know, and then she came down on the ankle and she was really hurt, but then like you can see the coach, the Carolis, they were like making her go back out there for that next, for the, what is it, the vault or whatever it's called.

01:34:23.000 Yeah, whatever.

01:34:23.000 And she did it.

01:34:24.000 And she did it and she got the score.

01:34:26.000 As it turned out, she didn't even need that score for some reason.

01:34:29.000 I don't understand gymnastics that well, but she did a heroic thing on that ankle and she had to be carried off and then put in a stand. 0.67

01:34:35.000 She was really hurt.

01:34:37.000 So the documentary portrays it as abusive, but when we interviewed Kerri Strunk, she kind of portrayed it as like she had to reach down deep and do it.

01:34:46.000 So it's interesting.

01:34:47.000 Well, that's a good way to look at it.

01:34:49.000 You know, that's an empowered person, right?

01:34:51.000 An empowered person looks at it like they figured out a way to summon the strength.

01:34:56.000 A disempowered person says, it was abusive.

01:34:59.000 I was abused.

01:35:00.000 They told me to do it.

01:35:01.000 I shouldn't have done it.

01:35:02.000 Even though we won the goal, I shouldn't have done it.

01:35:04.000 But what if her ankle's permanently damaged? 0.99

01:35:07.000 What if you're limping for the rest of your life because some asshole coach wants you to do something? 1.00

01:35:10.000 Right. 0.99

01:35:11.000 So you can get a piece of metal around a cloth string.

01:35:14.000 Right.

01:35:14.000 That's no good either.

01:35:15.000 It's weird.

01:35:16.000 Especially when you're making a kid.

01:35:17.000 These gymnasts are like 14. Yeah.

01:35:20.000 Making them make that decision.

01:35:22.000 I mean, they don't really have agency at that age.

01:35:25.000 And I think that's what made the Carolis...

01:35:27.000 So controversial is because they were like robots for this husband-wife coach team.

01:35:33.000 And they pushed them really hard.

01:35:36.000 They separated them from their parents.

01:35:38.000 I mean, to compete on that level and do that type of stuff, who knows what kind of...

01:35:47.000 Sacrifices and sort of pushing that they need that may, you know, mentally too.

01:35:53.000 I mean, you watch some of what they do, you're going like, how's that humanly possible?

01:35:57.000 They're like landing on a bar this...

01:36:00.000 It's like six inches wide, and they're flipping on it and stuff like that. 0.98

01:36:04.000 I mean, I'd have no dick if I did that. 1.00

01:36:06.000 I'd just fall on my dick. 1.00

01:36:07.000 A lot of dudes don't do it, do they? 1.00

01:36:09.000 The dudes do it, too. 0.98

01:36:11.000 The flips and everything on the balance ball? 1.00

01:36:12.000 Oh, they do all that shit, yeah. 1.00

01:36:13.000 Yeah? 1.00

01:36:14.000 Dudes do all that. 0.99

01:36:14.000 Why do you only see girls on TV do it? 0.99

01:36:16.000 Because it's hotter.

01:36:18.000 It's hotter.

01:36:18.000 Yeah, I think it's hotter.

01:36:19.000 But they're girls, you fucking creeper. 1.00

01:36:21.000 How dare you say hotter? 1.00

01:36:22.000 Well, some of them are 24. Oh, okay.

01:36:23.000 How long is it 24?

01:36:24.000 One of them was...

01:36:26.000 46, right?

01:36:26.000 The old one was 46. And that's old for gymnastics, but...

01:36:29.000 That's old for humans.

01:36:31.000 Nah, 46?

01:36:32.000 46? 1.00

01:36:33.000 To be doing that kind of shit? 1.00

01:36:34.000 Oh, to be doing that kind of shit, yeah. 1.00

01:36:36.000 I mean, your joints, 46 years of flipping and landing and all the abuse it takes. 1.00

01:36:41.000 She looked pretty fucking good for a 46-year-old. 0.99

01:36:43.000 She looked good, but next to those girls, she looked ancient, which is because, you know, she was... 0.99

01:36:47.000 Because she is.

01:36:48.000 Compared to them, yeah.

01:36:49.000 Compared to them.

01:36:49.000 Yeah.

01:36:49.000 For that sport?

01:36:50.000 For that sport.

01:36:51.000 Like as a fighter, a 46-year-old fighter, Jesus Christ, don't die in there.

01:36:55.000 Right.

01:36:55.000 George Foreman was doing it in his 40s.

01:36:57.000 Yes, he was.

01:36:58.000 He was doing it.

01:36:58.000 He won the heavyweight title at 45. He did.

01:37:00.000 Against Michael Moore, who was a beast. 0.97

01:37:02.000 Who was a beast, yeah.

01:37:03.000 Yeah.

01:37:03.000 And so he can be done.

01:37:05.000 How about Hopkins?

01:37:06.000 Hopkins is a world champion deep into his 40s.

01:37:08.000 Almost 50, I think.

01:37:09.000 Yeah.

01:37:09.000 He was beating world-class guys at 50 years old.

01:37:11.000 Yeah.

01:37:12.000 He had that defense.

01:37:14.000 He just had that style where he figured out how to not get hit.

01:37:17.000 He was so disciplined, too.

01:37:18.000 Like, never fucked his body up. 0.93

01:37:20.000 Never ate processed foods. 0.78

01:37:22.000 Always exercised.

01:37:23.000 Never got out of shape.

01:37:24.000 Still to this day.

01:37:25.000 Tom Brady, 43, 44. That's unheard of.

01:37:28.000 Yeah.

01:37:29.000 To be still competing at that level.

01:37:30.000 I know.

01:37:31.000 Yeah.

01:37:31.000 He doesn't eat anything inflammatory either.

01:37:33.000 He's got...

01:37:34.000 He must drink adrenochrome, too.

01:37:37.000 There must be an Adrena clone. 0.96

01:37:38.000 They have like a Slurpee machine. 0.99

01:37:40.000 Did you see that fucking ridiculous moment where Biden gets interviewed? 1.00

01:37:44.000 They're asking him a question and he said, well, the Republicans think we drink baby blood. 1.00

01:37:51.000 Right, right.

01:37:51.000 Like what?

01:37:53.000 Did you see that?

01:37:54.000 I did see it.

01:37:54.000 It's like, what are you saying, man?

01:37:56.000 Why are you even bringing that up?

01:37:57.000 Right.

01:37:58.000 Thou doth protest too much.

01:38:00.000 That guy's lost.

01:38:01.000 Yeah.

01:38:02.000 He's lost.

01:38:02.000 He's sad.

01:38:03.000 He's, uh...

01:38:05.000 President Kamala.

01:38:06.000 President Kamala.

01:38:08.000 Say it.

01:38:08.000 You know what's funny is it's sad because Kamala...

01:38:14.000 She was one of the first people skeptical of the vaccine.

01:38:20.000 I'm not taking that Trump vaccine.

01:38:22.000 Have you seen that video of them?

01:38:24.000 Have you ever seen that video?

01:38:25.000 Where they all talk about it?

01:38:26.000 Joe Biden talks about it, not taking it.

01:38:28.000 How has this been vetted?

01:38:30.000 Have you seen that video?

01:38:31.000 I might have, I don't remember it, but yeah, I mean, everything has consequences, man.

01:38:35.000 You know, people do things for the short-term advantage for them, but then, you know, long-term, they're going like, how come people aren't taking the vaccine? 0.98

01:38:42.000 It's like, dude, you were saying the vaccine was dangerous fucking... 0.98

01:38:45.000 When it was Trump's. 1.00

01:38:46.000 When it was Trump's.

01:38:47.000 So you're the first ones to politicize it.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, I'll find it.

01:38:50.000 I got a video in here of it.

01:38:54.000 Kamala's, her approval rating is not high though, even amongst the Dems.

01:38:59.000 It shouldn't be.

01:39:00.000 It'd be even lower if they went into her past.

01:39:02.000 They looked at her, what she's done in terms of prosecuting people.

01:39:07.000 What Tulsi Gabbard said during the debates, the vice presidential debates, the president's debates, it's 100% true.

01:39:14.000 What she said is 100% true.

01:39:16.000 She kept people after the time they were supposed to be released. 0.98

01:39:19.000 And then Josh Dubin on this podcast talked about how she withheld evidence that would have exonerated prisoners.

01:39:25.000 She fought to stop DNA evidence from being introduced into a case that would have exonerated defendants.

01:39:32.000 Brutal.

01:39:32.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 That was her DA's office, right?

01:39:34.000 Yeah.

01:39:35.000 Like she was the DA in San Francisco?

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 I mean, look, man, it's a sport and they try to win.

01:39:41.000 That's what it's like.

01:39:42.000 When you are dealing with someone who's a prosecuting attorney, what those people are doing is trying to win.

01:39:48.000 That's what they're trying to do.

01:39:49.000 That's what they do.

01:39:50.000 They win.

01:39:51.000 And the way to win is by whatever means necessary, whatever means you have at your disposal. 1.00

01:39:57.000 One of the best ways to do that is to, you know, if you have some evidence that will make a guy seem innocent, hide that shit. 1.00

01:40:04.000 Put it away. 1.00

01:40:05.000 Get rid of it.

01:40:06.000 That's the gross thing about cops in general, is that cops are trying to get, like a lot of cops, We'll talk about this, and I don't think it's supposed to be legal, but they have mandates.

01:40:17.000 You have a quota of so many people you're supposed to arrest.

01:40:22.000 And I always said, what if nobody did any crime for six months?

01:40:25.000 What would they do?

01:40:26.000 What if all crime stopped and the cops have these quotas?

01:40:29.000 How would the cops be treated?

01:40:30.000 Would they say, hey, good job, everybody?

01:40:32.000 Would they be treated like firefighters? 0.98

01:40:33.000 Because firefighters, they take these fucking long 24-hour shifts, they hang out in the fire department, they lift weights, they cook, they hang out. 0.98

01:40:42.000 They're good cooks, too, which is funny. 0.98

01:40:44.000 Oh, a lot of them are Ruby cooks.

01:40:45.000 Like a real tough guy being like, let's do it tonight's Chicken French Hayes.

01:40:48.000 Yeah.

01:40:49.000 And they put a little parsley on it.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, tonight we're doing my mother's recipe.

01:40:53.000 Yeah.

01:40:54.000 Yeah, they don't do anything.

01:40:56.000 But no one's saying, hey, you've got to put out a certain amount of fires every day.

01:41:00.000 Right.

01:41:00.000 Because they're hoping there's no fires.

01:41:02.000 Right.

01:41:03.000 But they're never hoping there's no crime.

01:41:04.000 Right. 0.92

01:41:04.000 No, I remember that was like a big problem in Ferguson is that they were like harassing those residents to fill quotas, you know, jaywalking and bullshit. 0.92

01:41:14.000 That if you did that in a white neighborhood, they'd be like, do you know how my father, like they wouldn't go for it. 0.98

01:41:18.000 Cops in a lot of places are glorified revenue collectors because they're trying to get money for speeding.

01:41:23.000 They're trying to get money for all these different things.

01:41:25.000 It's not just as simple as you're trying to stop crime.

01:41:28.000 I'm here to serve and protect.

01:41:30.000 That's not what it is.

01:41:31.000 That's a great way to put it.

01:41:33.000 They are.

01:41:34.000 They're kind of there to get money for the city in some ways, and they're instructed to do so.

01:41:38.000 How much money is generated in a place like Los Angeles just from speeding tickets?

01:41:44.000 It's probably absurd.

01:41:45.000 It's probably absurd.

01:41:47.000 It's probably off the charts.

01:41:48.000 Speeding tickets, traffic violations.

01:41:51.000 Right, right.

01:41:53.000 Los Angeles, I think, might be higher with parking than speeding.

01:41:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:58.000 They're brutal.

01:41:59.000 They're brutal.

01:41:59.000 They do that in New York, too.

01:42:00.000 New York is crazy with the parking. 1.00

01:42:02.000 Oh, they're fucking horrific. 0.99

01:42:03.000 Yeah, the street sweeping scam, where they just push around dust, they make you double park on another side, and then the street sweeper comes by and you just push his leaves around. 0.99

01:42:12.000 And you gotta wake up early enough to move your car.

01:42:16.000 If not, you're paying a ticket.

01:42:17.000 Yeah, living in the city like that, parking on the street is rough.

01:42:20.000 Oh, dude, now that I live in the country, I can't even believe I used to do that.

01:42:24.000 Where are you living now?

01:42:24.000 Don't tell specifically.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, I'm like in the country, like upstate.

01:42:28.000 In the woods.

01:42:28.000 Yeah, in the woods.

01:42:29.000 The forest.

01:42:29.000 Yeah, the forest.

01:42:30.000 Where the rocks are.

01:42:31.000 The big rocks.

01:42:31.000 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 And the trees.

01:42:34.000 How far is it to you to get it in the city?

01:42:36.000 About an hour fifteen.

01:42:38.000 But I got bears.

01:42:39.000 I'm living there.

01:42:40.000 Horses everywhere.

01:42:41.000 There's bears. 0.99

01:42:41.000 Bear shit in my backyard. 0.99

01:42:43.000 You ever eat a bear? 1.00

01:42:44.000 No.

01:42:44.000 I have not eaten a bear.

01:42:45.000 Bears taste good.

01:42:46.000 It tastes good.

01:42:48.000 It's odd.

01:42:49.000 It's oddly good.

01:42:50.000 You're ready to survive.

01:42:53.000 I don't know how to eat a bear.

01:42:54.000 It's not hard to eat a bear.

01:42:56.000 I could cook some bear for you.

01:42:57.000 Yeah?

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 You come over there.

01:42:59.000 I don't have any bear.

01:42:59.000 Would you do it on the Traeger Grill?

01:43:01.000 100%.

01:43:01.000 Right.

01:43:02.000 100%.

01:43:02.000 With some jalapenos?

01:43:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:04.000 I'd want to make sure it's cooked.

01:43:06.000 It's got to be above 145 for a long period of time.

01:43:11.000 The best way to do bear is to, apparently, I'm learning this, my friend Clay Newcomb.

01:43:16.000 Schooled me on this as well.

01:43:17.000 The thing you have to worry about is trichinosis.

01:43:20.000 Anytime you're eating an animal...

01:43:21.000 Right, the predator thing.

01:43:22.000 Yes.

01:43:23.000 So with trichinosis, you want to make sure that you're cooking it to at least 145 degrees.

01:43:28.000 Really, it's the same thing as pork.

01:43:30.000 They want you to cook it to 165, although they've kind of backed that down with domestic pork because they really don't have an opportunity to get trichinosis.

01:43:37.000 They're not out in the wild, but wild pork, you definitely want to get it a little higher.

01:43:41.000 And you do sous-vide.

01:43:42.000 So you take it in a sous-vide bag and you, you know what sous-vide is?

01:43:46.000 You know what that means?

01:43:47.000 Sous-vide is, they take these bags, like a plastic bag, you seal the meat in a bag.

01:43:52.000 Generally you do it with some seasoning and maybe some butter or something like that.

01:43:55.000 And then you dip it in water and you put a wand in the water.

01:43:59.000 See if you pull up Joule sous-vide.

01:44:02.000 I forget how you spell it.

01:44:03.000 Wait, so there's a risk if you have bear or wild that you'll die from the trigonosis?

01:44:08.000 No, you won't die. 0.99

01:44:09.000 It sucks. 1.00

01:44:10.000 You get real sick. 0.97

01:44:11.000 You get real achy and your muscles hurt and it eventually goes away.

01:44:14.000 But a couple of my buddies got trigonosis.

01:44:17.000 He said it was not that bad.

01:44:18.000 But he said it's not fun.

01:44:19.000 But he said it's like illuminating.

01:44:21.000 Like, oh, it's not what I thought it was.

01:44:25.000 But if you ever ate my friend, you would get trichinosis.

01:44:27.000 If I ate your friend?

01:44:28.000 Yeah, you'd get it from him, because it stays in the body, like these little spores.

01:44:32.000 There it is.

01:44:33.000 So that's J-O-U-L-E. I got one of these things.

01:44:36.000 They're awesome.

01:44:37.000 And so you put in a pot of water, And then you heat the water.

01:44:42.000 The water heats to 145 degrees.

01:44:44.000 And you could cook it at that temperature for hours.

01:44:49.000 Some guys do it like they'll do 120 for like a good piece of like a venison shank where it's like a tough piece of meat.

01:44:57.000 You put it in the sous vide and you'll cook it like a venison shoulder, for instance, which does a lot of...

01:45:04.000 Fascia and connective tissue.

01:45:06.000 You cook it at 125 degrees for 12, 13 hours, maybe more.

01:45:12.000 And then all that stuff breaks down and becomes incredibly tender.

01:45:16.000 Then when you take it out, you sear it on the outside.

01:45:18.000 You take a cast iron frying pan and you put some lard in there or some tallow, some beef tallow.

01:45:27.000 Sear it on there and then you cut it off and slice it and oh my god So tender and delicious because it's just been sitting at that temperature that perfect temperature where it's cooking It doesn't overcook because it doesn't it can't get any warmer, right?

01:45:42.000 Like if you cook something on a grill you're cooking it at 265 degrees you eat a 265 degrees piece of meat It's done. 0.98

01:45:48.000 It's fucked up, right? 0.98

01:45:50.000 That's shoe leather So at 265, you want to have a thermometer in that bitch to make sure it gets to like 120, then you pull it, and then you sear it on the outside. 1.00

01:45:59.000 That's what I do.

01:46:00.000 But with the sous vide, you sit it in there for hours and hours and hours, and it becomes just like a butter.

01:46:07.000 So tender.

01:46:08.000 Just falls apart in your mouth.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, and then when you get it out of there, then you sear it.

01:46:12.000 Or you could take it on one of those Traeger Rangers, where it has the flat cast iron, flat thing, and you sear it on that bad boy.

01:46:19.000 I feel bad eating a bear, though. 1.00

01:46:21.000 Fuck bears. 1.00

01:46:21.000 They eat kids. 1.00

01:46:23.000 They do. 1.00

01:46:23.000 Bears are assholes. 1.00

01:46:24.000 It's not their fault, though. 1.00

01:46:24.000 They eat their own kids. 1.00

01:46:25.000 How about that?

01:46:26.000 Do they? 1.00

01:46:26.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:46:27.000 I watched it. 1.00

01:46:28.000 I've seen them eat babies.

01:46:29.000 Well, I haven't seen them eat babies, but I've seen babies that they ate.

01:46:32.000 I've seen paws from cubs.

01:46:34.000 Yeah, I saw this one video of a polar bear just, like, chasing...

01:46:38.000 Oh, yeah, a little baby polar bear.

01:46:39.000 And the mother was trying to, like, stop it, but it was like...

01:46:42.000 No, cannibalism runs rampant, but it's...

01:46:44.000 It's because they're hungry, though.

01:46:45.000 It's hard to...

01:46:46.000 That's the thing about nature.

01:46:47.000 Nature documentaries, they portray them as, like, the predators as, like, mean, and you're always rooting for...

01:46:55.000 Like the antelopes or whatever, but they fail most of the time.

01:46:59.000 Predators fail most of the time.

01:47:01.000 Oh yeah.

01:47:01.000 So if you put it in that context, you'd almost be happy for them when they got one.

01:47:05.000 Because a million of them got away that you don't see.

01:47:09.000 The media, I'm telling you, the media. 1.00

01:47:11.000 It's the fucking media. 1.00

01:47:12.000 It's the fucking media. 1.00

01:47:13.000 But it's also, you have to have the predators, otherwise the prey animals would overrun the earth if nothing's eating them. 0.99

01:47:20.000 You have situations like New Zealand, where they have to fly over these herds of invasive species animals that they reintroduced to this country.

01:47:28.000 They introduced a bunch of stags and all these different animals, and occasionally they get so overpopulated, they have to fly over and gun them down from helicopters.

01:47:36.000 Right.

01:47:36.000 Because there's no predators.

01:47:37.000 Wild hogs in Texas, right?

01:47:39.000 There's just too many of them.

01:47:40.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:47:41.000 I got a video I'll show you of this mountain lion trying to chase down, I think it was a, I think it's a wild sheep, and catches it, and as it's catching it, it goes over the side of a cliff with this fucking thing. 0.99

01:47:55.000 It's wild. 0.99

01:47:57.000 Mountain lions are killed wholesale because they take your dog, right?

01:48:03.000 They're not killed wholesale in California.

01:48:05.000 In California, they just let them run rampant.

01:48:08.000 Where they're killed a lot is in Texas.

01:48:11.000 In Texas, you don't even have to have a license.

01:48:13.000 You don't have to have anything. 0.82

01:48:14.000 You just whack them.

01:48:15.000 They're big, though, mountain lions.

01:48:17.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:48:18.000 That's the video, Jamie.

01:48:19.000 You're the man.

01:48:22.000 Rewind it from a different.

01:48:27.000 So he's chasing after it, he catches him, and watch him go off the side of the cliff.

01:48:32.000 Boom! 0.99

01:48:33.000 Oh, it's not a mountain lion, it's a snow leopard?

01:48:36.000 Watch this.

01:48:37.000 Boom! 0.99

01:48:38.000 Boom! 0.99

01:48:40.000 Boom! 0.99

01:48:41.000 Fuck, 400 feet off a cliff. 1.00

01:48:44.000 They're both dead, right? 1.00

01:48:45.000 No, the cat still survives, man.

01:48:47.000 That's what's crazy.

01:48:48.000 Look at the end, the cat still has him.

01:48:51.000 That is just...

01:48:52.000 I mean, imagine that's your life.

01:48:54.000 That's how you eat.

01:48:55.000 It's gotta be.

01:48:56.000 Boom! 0.99

01:48:57.000 I mean, look how he hits the ground. 0.99

01:48:58.000 Cats are so fucking resilient. 0.98

01:49:00.000 They are really amazing animals. 1.00

01:49:02.000 They're like the most beautiful killers. 0.97

01:49:05.000 Well, they kill.

01:49:07.000 The thing about wolves and bears and a lot of those other animals, they hold things down to start eating.

01:49:13.000 Cats kill first.

01:49:14.000 Which is cool.

01:49:15.000 That's kind of cool.

01:49:16.000 It's nice. 0.98

01:49:17.000 When you watch hyenas start to eat something alive, you're going like, that's a little bit of a dick move. 0.99

01:49:21.000 A huge dick move. 0.99

01:49:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:49:22.000 Komodo dragons, that's a dick move. 1.00

01:49:24.000 They bite you and wait. 0.98

01:49:25.000 Yeah, they wait and they hang out. 1.00

01:49:27.000 They know that the poison from their saliva, all the fucking horrible shit inside their mouth, it slowly starts to... 0.99

01:49:33.000 I forget if Komodo dragons have toxic saliva, if it's a poison, like if it's a venom, or if it's actually just- I think it's a bacteria. 0.99

01:49:42.000 Yeah, it's one or the other.

01:49:44.000 They're just filthy. 1.00

01:49:45.000 Disgusting. 1.00

01:49:46.000 Naughty bitches, yeah. 1.00

01:49:47.000 Slimy fucks. 1.00

01:49:48.000 They got slime coming out of their mouths. 1.00

01:49:50.000 Yeah, they're brutal, dude.

01:49:51.000 Ever seen their mouth when they open their mouth up and it's just dripping slime like that venom in that cartoon, that Marvel Comics guy, Venom?

01:49:58.000 Like, bah!

01:49:59.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:49:59.000 With the teeth and the fucking slime. 1.00

01:50:01.000 They're evil. 1.00

01:50:02.000 It's both venom and bacteria.

01:50:04.000 Oh, double whammy.

01:50:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:06.000 The reptiles just don't give a fuck, man. 1.00

01:50:08.000 They don't have feelings. 1.00

01:50:09.000 It's horrible.

01:50:10.000 Cats neither.

01:50:10.000 It was venom, not toxic bacteria.

01:50:12.000 Oh, so I'm wrong.

01:50:13.000 It is venom.

01:50:14.000 Well, I guarantee you, though, if you put a swab in their mouth, it's not going to come back clean.

01:50:19.000 It's not Purell in there.

01:50:20.000 No.

01:50:22.000 It says blood poisoning caused by multiple strains of bacteria in the dragon's saliva.

01:50:28.000 That is bacteria.

01:50:30.000 Oh, it's a long thought.

01:50:32.000 Sorry, a long thought.

01:50:32.000 Now a new study says.

01:50:35.000 They're vicious.

01:50:36.000 They stalk you, right?

01:50:37.000 Then they'll bite, and then just follow you around until you start to get paralyzed from their poison, and then they just start eating you alive.

01:50:45.000 It's tough to watch.

01:50:47.000 It's a rough life.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, they're scary.

01:50:49.000 Sharon Stone's boyfriend got bit on the foot by a Komodo dragon once at the zoo.

01:50:54.000 What was he doing that close to a Komodo dragon?

01:50:56.000 Not only was he close to a Komodo dragon, but he had his shoes off. 0.98

01:51:00.000 I forget what happened, but I think the Komodo dragon thought that his sock, like his white sock, was a rabbit or something like that and bit his foot and fucked him up. 0.99

01:51:09.000 Wow. 0.99

01:51:10.000 Yeah.

01:51:10.000 So he had to go through what the prey animals go through.

01:51:14.000 What's that, Jamie?

01:51:14.000 This is not for viewing online, but you guys can enjoy it with me.

01:51:18.000 Why can't we view it online?

01:51:19.000 Because it's very graphic and not on video.

01:51:21.000 Is that a monkey?

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:23.000 Oh, bro.

01:51:24.000 It's still alive.

01:51:24.000 It grabs its head here.

01:51:26.000 Oh, go from the beginning.

01:51:27.000 I did, I did, I did.

01:51:28.000 Take it from the beginning, please.

01:51:29.000 That's the beginning right there.

01:51:30.000 So he just grabs him by the head.

01:51:32.000 The monkey's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:51:34.000 And just starts swallowing.

01:51:35.000 The monkey's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:51:38.000 Let me get a do-over.

01:51:40.000 Let's talk for a second.

01:51:41.000 Look how he's swallowing it, too.

01:51:43.000 Just choking it back.

01:51:43.000 Look at the monkey's hands.

01:51:45.000 He's still moving his hands. 1.00

01:51:46.000 Like, fuck, fuck, fuck. 1.00

01:51:50.000 The thing about monkeys, too, is they're smart. 1.00

01:51:52.000 So the monkey knows what's going on.

01:51:54.000 It is very much alive.

01:51:56.000 Look at his hand!

01:51:57.000 His hand coming out of the mouth.

01:51:59.000 Like, hey, let me out, bro.

01:52:00.000 Oh, God.

01:52:01.000 Oh, my God.

01:52:03.000 That is incredible, dude.

01:52:05.000 They are...

01:52:06.000 Look at the eyes.

01:52:07.000 Just soulless creeps.

01:52:09.000 Cold.

01:52:09.000 All they're there is to clean up.

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:11.000 They're there to clean up.

01:52:12.000 They're there to make sure that things don't overpopulate.

01:52:14.000 That's literally their role in nature.

01:52:17.000 And that's what's so fascinating about nature is that the ecosystem, and that there's a... 0.99

01:52:22.000 Look at his fucking heartless eyes, right? 0.98

01:52:24.000 It's just the teeth stick, or the hands and the tail stick. 1.00

01:52:27.000 Oh, look at the foot.

01:52:29.000 The foot with the thumb.

01:52:30.000 Like you're next.

01:52:31.000 Yes, you're next.

01:52:33.000 Kid blink.

01:52:34.000 Yeah, they're the most terrifying to me.

01:52:37.000 Reptiles.

01:52:37.000 Yeah, reptiles, lizards, you know, crocodiles.

01:52:41.000 Crocodiles, I think, are the most terrifying because they're so aggressive and they move fast.

01:52:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:52:45.000 But these things are pretty fucking gross. 1.00

01:52:47.000 Look at that fucking thing, too. 1.00

01:52:49.000 Look at his neck. 1.00

01:52:50.000 Just all filled up with monkey. 0.71

01:52:52.000 Yeah, he's full.

01:52:53.000 He's got the itis now.

01:52:54.000 He's got the tail popping.

01:52:55.000 Look at the slime. 1.00

01:52:57.000 That fucking gross juicy slime that comes out of his mouth. 1.00

01:53:01.000 He's still got the tail out. 1.00

01:53:02.000 He hasn't finished chewing.

01:53:03.000 He's drooling like a baby teething.

01:53:05.000 Yeah, he can't fit it in all the way.

01:53:08.000 Look.

01:53:08.000 Oh, God.

01:53:09.000 He's so disgusting. 0.99

01:53:10.000 Just blood on the side of his face. 0.99

01:53:12.000 Clean yourself up.

01:53:13.000 I wonder what they taste like.

01:53:14.000 Monkeys?

01:53:15.000 No.

01:53:15.000 Dragons.

01:53:18.000 You're definitely going to have to...

01:53:20.000 I wonder if it's delicious.

01:53:20.000 Caught a deer.

01:53:21.000 That must have been...

01:53:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:23.000 I don't know if I could chase them down.

01:53:24.000 Dude, there's videos of them with, like, big buffalo or something just, like, eating a part of it.

01:53:30.000 Just chewing punks out of it.

01:53:32.000 You just watch the buffalo just looking around.

01:53:34.000 Oh! 0.60

01:53:38.000 He's pulling intestines out.

01:53:40.000 I mean, the Komodo dragons could care less.

01:53:42.000 They're just biting. 0.97

01:53:44.000 This guy had a really good point.

01:53:45.000 He was talking about cows, and he was like, people say it's unnatural to eat cows.

01:53:49.000 He goes, no, it's very, very natural to eat cows.

01:53:51.000 He goes, if you left cows wild, none of them live to be old age.

01:53:55.000 He goes, none of them die of old age.

01:53:56.000 Zero percent.

01:53:57.000 All of them get eaten and killed by predators, and it's a slow, horrible, painful death.

01:54:02.000 He goes, when people raise cows, especially if people raise cows humanely, he goes, those cows live a wonderful life and they have one bad day.

01:54:09.000 I don't want to focus on this, but right here, he's eating a boar.

01:54:12.000 It looks like he's sniffing out a particular part and then starts going after the incident.

01:54:16.000 Do you know what it might be?

01:54:18.000 Like liver?

01:54:19.000 Probably.

01:54:20.000 Yeah, he's looking for the guts.

01:54:21.000 Maybe he's just a foodie and he wants the guts.

01:54:24.000 He wants the good stuff.

01:54:25.000 Oh, God.

01:54:27.000 Oh, he's alive!

01:54:29.000 Of course it is.

01:54:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:31.000 Oh, he's holding down his legs.

01:54:33.000 It's just a rough day.

01:54:34.000 Guts first. 1.00

01:54:35.000 Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

01:54:37.000 And the thing is already poisoned, right? 1.00

01:54:39.000 Yeah.

01:54:39.000 He's already bit it.

01:54:40.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:54:42.000 And look at it, breathing.

01:54:44.000 It could get up and run away if it wasn't for the poison. 0.99

01:54:46.000 And now he's got a goddamn hole in it. 0.99

01:54:49.000 Oh! 1.00

01:54:52.000 We're so soft, Giannis.

01:54:54.000 We're so lucky.

01:54:55.000 We're so lucky that people before us figured out houses and spears and guns and weapons.

01:55:00.000 You know, they say that the reason why little kids are scared of monsters and not child molesters or bullets or car accidents, little kids are scared of monsters because there's like a deep primate response To cats.

01:55:14.000 We're afraid of big cats at night because that's what killed our ancestors.

01:55:18.000 Interesting.

01:55:19.000 And that information is in a child's brain.

01:55:22.000 Right.

01:55:22.000 The same way like a dog knows to piss on a tree.

01:55:25.000 You don't have to tell a dog.

01:55:26.000 Right.

01:55:26.000 Right?

01:55:26.000 Dog sees a squirrel, immediately goes after him.

01:55:28.000 There's like some deep-set instinct.

01:55:31.000 Even my dog, which is like the friendliest, sweetest dog, my golden retriever, he sees a squirrel and he's like...

01:55:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:39.000 He wants to go after that fucking squirrel. 1.00

01:55:41.000 He can't help it. 1.00

01:55:42.000 Oh, Jesus, Jamie, why?

01:55:43.000 It's a piñata.

01:55:45.000 There's a lot of candy in there.

01:55:46.000 Oh, Jesus, look at it.

01:55:47.000 It's still alive, and he just pulled out a hunk of his guts.

01:55:50.000 That's a gnarly video for everyone to watch later.

01:55:52.000 Hyenas do that, too.

01:55:53.000 What's the title of the video?

01:55:54.000 Komodo dragon eats wild boar alive, not for sensitive viewers.

01:55:58.000 And it was posted recently.

01:55:59.000 Meanwhile, why is that okay on YouTube, but you can't have vaccine disinformation?

01:56:07.000 You can't have anything to say.

01:56:09.000 Up until recently, you couldn't have anything to say that the virus came from a lab.

01:56:13.000 They would pull it down.

01:56:14.000 Yeah.

01:56:15.000 They let those up now.

01:56:16.000 I wonder if they re-put them back.

01:56:17.000 All those YouTube videos they took down because they said the virus leaked from a lab.

01:56:21.000 Well, Facebook didn't allow you for months.

01:56:23.000 They were like deactivating your accounts and stuff like that.

01:56:26.000 Yeah.

01:56:27.000 For the truth.

01:56:27.000 And then Jon Stewart comes on and does that great joke.

01:56:30.000 So funny on Colbert.

01:56:31.000 You can see Colbert doesn't know what to do.

01:56:33.000 He's like panicking.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, he's panicking.

01:56:35.000 Isn't it disappointing?

01:56:36.000 It was disappointing.

01:56:38.000 It was.

01:56:39.000 You could probably see censors going, can't compute.

01:56:43.000 Jon Stewart, liberal hero, saying this, can't compute.

01:56:47.000 Meltdown.

01:56:47.000 What do we do here?

01:56:48.000 Can't censor it.

01:56:49.000 I know.

01:56:50.000 Colbert is essentially trying to kill the bit. 0.89

01:56:53.000 He's trying to kill the bit. 0.99

01:56:55.000 He's trying to kill the bit.

01:56:56.000 If that was your friend, Like, if you went on a guy's podcast, and you were saying something like that, and you saw him try to kill the bit, you'd be like, what? 0.99

01:57:02.000 Like, if you and Joe List are sitting there, and Joe List starts to kill your bit, you'd be like, Joe, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99

01:57:07.000 Stepping on my shit, yeah. 1.00

01:57:08.000 What the fuck are you doing here? 1.00

01:57:10.000 Stepping on this great bit. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Yeah, totally.

01:57:12.000 You know?

01:57:13.000 If you're sitting there across from Ari Shafir, and you guys are talking, and Ari starts killing your bit, you'd be like, bro.

01:57:19.000 I'd be excited that he wasn't saying something else about a celebrity. 1.00

01:57:23.000 Or pulling his dick out. 0.99

01:57:24.000 Yeah, he asked me, he asked me recently, he's like, dude, why do you go to Austin so much? 1.00

01:57:28.000 I said, dude, because, you know, being friends with you is dangerous.

01:57:31.000 I gotta dip out of town once in a while when the, when the Bloods and Crips get hot on me.

01:57:38.000 He's going to come here too.

01:57:39.000 He knows it.

01:57:40.000 He was here a couple weeks ago. 0.99

01:57:41.000 He's like, it's fucking great here. 0.95

01:57:42.000 I go, yeah, it's fun, right? 0.97

01:57:44.000 Think about it.

01:57:45.000 You can't go to LA, so might as well come here.

01:57:47.000 I hope you never played for a team here, right?

01:57:49.000 No.

01:57:49.000 I have news about the club I'm opening.

01:57:52.000 I'll tell you as soon as we get off the air, but we got good news. 0.98

01:57:55.000 I got some good shit happening. 0.96

01:57:56.000 I'd like to hear it, yeah. 0.98

01:57:57.000 God, it took forever.

01:57:58.000 And I'll explain everything.

01:57:59.000 I got to do it off air, unfortunately.

01:58:01.000 I'll explain everything because I should have had a club open already.

01:58:05.000 The idea was to be open July 4th weekend.

01:58:08.000 Right.

01:58:08.000 But, phew.

01:58:09.000 Becoming a club owner is fucking complicated. 0.97

01:58:12.000 And I used to tell comics all the time, please be nice to these club owners. 0.99

01:58:16.000 Because they always treated the club owners like...

01:58:18.000 In the beginning it was like, you know, oh, they're not paying me what I'm worth.

01:58:21.000 Or they won't headline me.

01:58:22.000 Or they won't give me a chance.

01:58:24.000 Or they don't give me any work.

01:58:25.000 And then eventually it became, you know, like...

01:58:30.000 When you start doing well, you realize, like, oh, this is their business.

01:58:35.000 This is how they make money.

01:58:36.000 You should look at it correctly.

01:58:37.000 And what I always tell them, like, you don't want to be a club owner, right?

01:58:41.000 Who wants to deal with us?

01:58:42.000 I don't want to deal with a bunch of comics.

01:58:44.000 Craziest people. 1.00

01:58:45.000 You want to deal with fucking just wild people that want to do drugs and stay up all night and they show up the next day and they forget their jokes. 1.00

01:58:53.000 Come on. 0.99

01:58:54.000 Do you want to deal with that?

01:58:55.000 No. 1.00

01:58:56.000 And you got to sell tickets to these fucking crazy people? 1.00

01:58:59.000 You're going to get tickets to see these wild people tell nutty jokes? 1.00

01:59:03.000 No!

01:59:04.000 Be nice to them!

01:59:05.000 You don't want to be a club owner.

01:59:07.000 Now that I'm becoming a club owner, I'm realizing it's even more complicated than that.

01:59:11.000 The business end of it, just commercial real estate, the regulations, the hoops, environmental concerns.

01:59:18.000 I'll tell you about that.

01:59:19.000 We'll talk about that after the show.

01:59:21.000 Because that's what happened with me.

01:59:22.000 Like, environmental issues.

01:59:24.000 You're like, what?

01:59:25.000 Especially for you.

01:59:26.000 I mean, you're a busy guy.

01:59:28.000 So this is like one of many things you do.

01:59:30.000 Yeah.

01:59:31.000 But it's important to me.

01:59:32.000 It's very important.

01:59:33.000 Part of the whole project about moving to Austin, I had this plan.

01:59:36.000 And one big part of the plan It's not just get, you know, a podcast studio established, get everything going, help all the other comics out and try to boost everybody's signal.

01:59:48.000 The big plan is to have, like, a fantastic comedy club, which only exists for comedy.

01:59:56.000 I just want to break even.

01:59:58.000 I'm not trying to make any money with this comedy club.

02:00:00.000 I want it to be the best place for comics to perform, where you make great money, where you have a great time, everybody takes care of you from top to bottom, and there's no worry about cutting corners or pinching pennies.

02:00:13.000 There's none of that.

02:00:14.000 Everyone's treated like fucking gold. 0.98

02:00:17.000 And I want everybody to feel so comfortable. 0.99

02:00:20.000 That's my goal.

02:00:22.000 It's my 100% everybody, from management to bartenders to everybody.

02:00:26.000 You're treated like gold.

02:00:27.000 You make great money.

02:00:28.000 You got great healthcare coverage.

02:00:30.000 Everything's taken care of.

02:00:31.000 Healthcare coverage.

02:00:32.000 I want to take care of comics.

02:00:33.000 I want to take care of comics.

02:00:34.000 I know so many comics that don't have healthcare.

02:00:36.000 I want to give them healthcare.

02:00:37.000 I want to just across the board.

02:00:39.000 My whole goal is to not make money.

02:00:41.000 My whole goal is to not lose money.

02:00:42.000 That's it.

02:00:43.000 Well, you don't need...

02:00:44.000 I mean, technically, you're in a good position to say that.

02:00:47.000 But that's why I want to do it that way.

02:00:49.000 It's a beautiful thing, man.

02:00:49.000 You've helped so many comics as this.

02:00:51.000 If it wasn't for this show, there's no other alternative for guys who really want to be funny.

02:00:57.000 To get wild.

02:00:58.000 To get wild and be uncensored and be funny.

02:01:00.000 There's no platform.

02:01:02.000 You've done that for comics.

02:01:04.000 It's a great thing.

02:01:05.000 It's because I don't listen.

02:01:07.000 Listen to the people that...

02:01:09.000 When you go through steps of progress and steps of financial success and popularity success, it comes to a point in time where you go into this rarefied air where everybody starts to play it safe.

02:01:22.000 Right.

02:01:22.000 They go, hey, we're dealing with very large sponsors.

02:01:26.000 Right.

02:01:26.000 There's a lot of money at stake here, and I don't think you should have Alex Jones on anymore.

02:01:29.000 Right.

02:01:30.000 And I'm like, nope, he's coming on next week and we're getting drunk!

02:01:33.000 Woo! 0.99

02:01:34.000 And you gotta do it that way.

02:01:36.000 It's the same thing with Kill Tony.

02:01:38.000 I tell everybody, like Fitzsimmons was on yesterday. 0.98

02:01:42.000 We were talking about how he did Kill Tony on Monday night and there's a guy in the fucking green room handing out mushrooms. 0.98

02:01:48.000 Everybody's doing mushrooms. 0.99

02:01:49.000 Greg got so high.

02:01:50.000 He goes, I didn't even know what I was saying while I was saying it.

02:01:53.000 Everybody's barbecued.

02:01:54.000 They went on stage. 0.95

02:01:55.000 This guy, Hans Kim, who came on the show last night, was fucking hilarious. 0.90

02:01:58.000 This young kid who's on Kill Tony all the time. 0.78

02:02:01.000 He opened up for me last night.

02:02:03.000 He's going on tonight at the same thing.

02:02:05.000 He met some girl. 0.97

02:02:07.000 They said at the show, they said, who wants to have sex with this man? 0.97

02:02:12.000 And this girl came on stage. 1.00

02:02:14.000 She goes, I'll have sex with him. 1.00

02:02:15.000 And so her boyfriend was there. 0.99

02:02:17.000 And she goes, the boyfriend's cool.

02:02:19.000 He just wants to be there while it happens.

02:02:21.000 Like, what? 1.00

02:02:22.000 So he and the girl sneak off into a fucking janitor's closet and fuck while the show's going on. 1.00

02:02:30.000 This is happening. 1.00

02:02:31.000 This is wild shit. 1.00

02:02:32.000 The jokes are hilarious, but there's chaos. 1.00

02:02:36.000 It's chaos.

02:02:37.000 But everybody's nice.

02:02:38.000 They're all nice.

02:02:39.000 They're all nice people having a good time.

02:02:41.000 And that's what I want to cultivate.

02:02:44.000 I want to cultivate wild comedy. 1.00

02:02:47.000 Wild shit. 1.00

02:02:48.000 Be nice. 1.00

02:02:50.000 Everybody's nice. 0.99

02:02:51.000 Somebody gets fucked in the bathroom while the show's going on. 0.99

02:02:56.000 Everybody's willing. 0.99

02:02:57.000 It's like they decided to do it.

02:02:59.000 They had a good time.

02:03:00.000 Yeah.

02:03:01.000 Fun.

02:03:01.000 Wow, that's a wild night.

02:03:02.000 That's a wild show.

02:03:04.000 It's the cornerstone for comedy in Austin.

02:03:06.000 It really is.

02:03:07.000 Because it allows open micers to have this unique opportunity to do one minute in front of Ron White or Tim Dillon.

02:03:14.000 Have you done it?

02:03:15.000 I haven't done it yet, yeah. 1.00

02:03:16.000 God damn, you gotta do it. 0.99

02:03:16.000 He's asked me about it. 0.99

02:03:17.000 Yeah, I gotta do it.

02:03:18.000 Next time you come on, let's organize it so that you'll come on on a Monday and you and I'll go on together.

02:03:23.000 Oh, that'd be great.

02:03:24.000 That's what we'll do.

02:03:24.000 We'll have you on next time.

02:03:25.000 You'll do the show on Monday and then Monday night we'll go and do Kill Tony.

02:03:29.000 That sounds great. 1.00

02:03:29.000 Fuck, it's the cornerstone of this community. 1.00

02:03:31.000 It really is. 1.00

02:03:32.000 Right.

02:03:32.000 It gives comics a real opportunity.

02:03:34.000 And they can really, like William Montgomery, he's opened for me before.

02:03:38.000 Genevieve, she's opened for me before.

02:03:40.000 Hans Kim, he opened for me last night.

02:03:42.000 A lot of these comics.

02:03:43.000 David Lucas.

02:03:44.000 David Lucas is funny. 0.99

02:03:46.000 David Lucas is a killer. 0.99

02:03:48.000 He's a killer and he's a good dude. 1.00

02:03:49.000 He's a fun dude to be around. 0.95

02:03:51.000 He's a good dude, too, because Tony and him crack on each other, and when Tony gets him, he laughs loud.

02:03:58.000 Loud and hard, which is a sign of a good guy.

02:04:01.000 A guy who takes a hit and laughs.

02:04:04.000 Tony will say something to him, and he's like...

02:04:08.000 It's just, it's a beautiful environment where comics get a chance.

02:04:12.000 And comics have gone on to have legitimate, like Ally Makovsky.

02:04:15.000 She's got a legitimate career. 0.52

02:04:16.000 She's headlining.

02:04:17.000 She goes on the road.

02:04:18.000 She's headlining now.

02:04:19.000 It's amazing.

02:04:20.000 And it started out from Kill Tony.

02:04:22.000 Yeah, and it's cool that it's live and it's comedy fans.

02:04:24.000 Yeah.

02:04:26.000 It's not on TV. It's kind of grassroots, which is how things go now.

02:04:31.000 Well, they tried to do it on Comedy Central for a while, and Comedy Central didn't take it.

02:04:35.000 And I'm glad they didn't, because they would have changed it.

02:04:38.000 Probably.

02:04:39.000 Look, they have executives, and those executives have mortgages, and they have families, and they have kids in private school.

02:04:44.000 And they don't want to fuck it up. 0.99

02:04:45.000 They don't want anybody fucking anybody in some janitor's closet. 0.99

02:04:48.000 Right. 0.99

02:04:48.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey! 0.99

02:04:50.000 Don't say that!

02:04:51.000 Right, right.

02:04:51.000 Can you edit that out?

02:04:52.000 Can you edit that part out?

02:04:53.000 Right, right. 0.98

02:04:53.000 Where Hans fucked the girl in the closet? 0.98

02:04:55.000 Right, right. 1.00

02:04:56.000 Yeah.

02:04:57.000 That wouldn't happen on there.

02:04:58.000 That's the thing about having a podcast like this.

02:05:01.000 It's like if you do it like this the entire time and never stop doing it the same way.

02:05:05.000 Right.

02:05:05.000 Just never change how you do it.

02:05:07.000 Yeah.

02:05:07.000 It's hard because you get a lot of resistance.

02:05:09.000 There's a lot of resistance.

02:05:11.000 But you gotta cut all that resistance out.

02:05:13.000 You gotta figure it out a way.

02:05:13.000 I have the best managers.

02:05:15.000 That's one of the beautiful things about it.

02:05:17.000 The managers know.

02:05:18.000 They know who I am.

02:05:19.000 They know what I do.

02:05:19.000 They love me.

02:05:20.000 I love them.

02:05:21.000 And it just works.

02:05:22.000 Right.

02:05:22.000 They don't try to tell you anything.

02:05:23.000 They don't tell me anything.

02:05:24.000 And they take care of everything.

02:05:26.000 They take care of all the business aspect of it and leave me going.

02:05:29.000 Right.

02:05:29.000 And I've been with them for so long.

02:05:30.000 I've been with my manager for 30 years.

02:05:33.000 That's almost unique.

02:05:34.000 He found me when I was an open miker.

02:05:35.000 Yeah.

02:05:36.000 Dude, we don't even have a contract.

02:05:37.000 Right.

02:05:38.000 That's unique.

02:05:39.000 Yes.

02:05:40.000 He's family.

02:05:41.000 And so is Chandra.

02:05:43.000 Both of them, they're a team, they're family.

02:05:45.000 So it's like, for me, it's the best.

02:05:48.000 Because I'm just completely relaxed in that department.

02:05:51.000 And I don't have to think.

02:05:53.000 When I go on vacation, like I went on vacation last week, I don't pay attention to anything. 0.99

02:05:57.000 I just lay around the beach, I drink margaritas, I play with my kids, I just fucking go on the water and snorkel and shit. 0.99

02:06:03.000 I'm not thinking. 0.99

02:06:04.000 And that's so important, to be free.

02:06:07.000 And it's hard.

02:06:09.000 It's hard because you want to read things and you want to find out what's going on and how are the ticket sales in Boise.

02:06:15.000 You start thinking of things like, how's that going?

02:06:18.000 How's this going?

02:06:19.000 But you can't.

02:06:20.000 You can't.

02:06:21.000 You can't concern yourself.

02:06:22.000 The only thing you got to do is do your best.

02:06:24.000 Do your best at what you do. 0.99

02:06:26.000 And the more you pay attention to outside of what you do, like how other people are viewing what you do, and what you should do or shouldn't do to get this amount of money or that thing, or this new advertiser doesn't like you saying cunt, like ugh! 0.99

02:06:38.000 You can't! 0.99

02:06:39.000 You can't!

02:06:40.000 It'll ruin it!

02:06:41.000 It's hard when you're coming up, like when you're, uh, it's hard not to think about the ticket sales.

02:06:46.000 That's the dream, to not Yeah.

02:06:48.000 Think about the tickets he'll just know and go and have fun and just think about the jokes, but it's hard to get to that point, guys.

02:06:53.000 It's very hard.

02:06:54.000 You need a platform, you need somebody to put you on, you need a show, something to...

02:06:57.000 That's what I want to help with.

02:06:58.000 Yeah.

02:06:59.000 That's my goal with comics.

02:07:01.000 Just take these talented people that have a dream and give them a hand.

02:07:05.000 Reach up. 0.92

02:07:06.000 Reach up. 0.92

02:07:06.000 Come on up. 0.92

02:07:07.000 Come on up here.

02:07:08.000 Let's all do this together.

02:07:09.000 Right.

02:07:09.000 You know?

02:07:10.000 And the beautiful thing about the podcast world is that everybody supports everybody.

02:07:14.000 And the people that don't, these weird island people, meaning these people that live in an island separate from the community of comedy, they only want it to be about themselves.

02:07:24.000 The only relationships they have with comics are these comics that open for them, that are always below them.

02:07:29.000 They don't have, like, intimate relationships with people that are their peers.

02:07:33.000 They're creeps.

02:07:34.000 Yeah, what is up with that? 0.83

02:07:35.000 Selfish. 0.97

02:07:36.000 Selfish. 0.98

02:07:36.000 Yeah, but it's crazy because you're, it's like the dream. 0.98

02:07:40.000 It's like, why wouldn't, would you rather an industry person or a booker tell you you're great, or would you rather another comic be like, you're great, let me help you.

02:07:48.000 That's like the dream.

02:07:49.000 And that there's no competition that, because it used to be all guys were competing for a few spots.

02:07:54.000 Right.

02:07:54.000 So I understand that there was competition, because to get booked, you have to be one of a few.

02:07:58.000 But now it's wide open.

02:08:00.000 The internet is like the universe.

02:08:02.000 It's beautiful.

02:08:02.000 It's endless.

02:08:03.000 But some guys, there's still competition, right?

02:08:05.000 They look at other guys who are doing podcasts, like they'll look at the iTunes ratings, and maybe they'll be number blah, blah, blah, and someone's one above them. 0.96

02:08:13.000 And they're like, fuck, how's he there? 0.78

02:08:15.000 I should be number three. 0.99

02:08:17.000 He's number three, I should be number three.

02:08:19.000 And they get mad.

02:08:20.000 Why am I not number one? 1.00

02:08:21.000 Fucking New York Times or fucking this and that. 1.00

02:08:24.000 They get crazy. 1.00

02:08:25.000 You get crazy and you think about things that are not important.

02:08:28.000 Like when I was on news radio one time, we were all sitting around and they were talking about, they would all read variety.

02:08:37.000 And the Hollywood Reporter, and I would call those things the Devil's Rag.

02:08:40.000 You guys are reading the Devil's Rag again. 1.00

02:08:42.000 Why are you reading that shit? 0.99

02:08:43.000 And they were complaining that Friends, you know, like Friends always had this amazing time slot. 1.00

02:08:47.000 It was like Seinfeld and Friends.

02:08:49.000 And then there was some show shoved in there, like Caroline and the City. 0.74

02:08:53.000 And The Single Guy, do you remember those shows?

02:08:55.000 Yeah.

02:08:55.000 Do you?

02:08:56.000 I do remember them, yeah.

02:08:57.000 I didn't watch them, but I remember them.

02:08:58.000 Nobody watched them.

02:09:00.000 Paul Simms, the producer of NewsRadio, the creator, executive producer of NewsRadio.

02:09:04.000 I watched NewsRadio.

02:09:05.000 It was good. 0.99

02:09:05.000 He used to call those shows the shit sandwich because they were sandwiched in between these great shows. 0.99

02:09:10.000 And I remember we were all sitting around and everybody was going, God, why can't we be on Thursday night after Friends? 0.97

02:09:16.000 And they were complaining about this stuff, and I go, hey, guys, last time I checked, we're on TV. I go, we're on TV. We have a fucking TV show.

02:09:25.000 We're on season three of a TV show. 1.00

02:09:29.000 We get paid.

02:09:30.000 I think I was making like 25 grand a week.

02:09:32.000 I was like, this is wild.

02:09:34.000 This is crazy. 1.00

02:09:36.000 When you start looking other places and comparing yourself to other people, that's when you start fucking yourself. 0.99

02:09:40.000 I've heard that people from Friends are making a million a week, and I was like... 0.99

02:09:43.000 Right.

02:09:45.000 A million?

02:09:46.000 A million a week?

02:09:47.000 You get angry.

02:09:48.000 You get angry.

02:09:50.000 But it's all in perspective.

02:09:53.000 It's tough when you're starting to not do that.

02:09:59.000 I've started a new podcast called Long Days and I'm just focused on it.

02:10:05.000 But it's hard because I'm starting to not look at other people and go like... 0.99

02:10:10.000 Fuck, I'm behind. 0.99

02:10:11.000 It's not going to work. 1.00

02:10:13.000 It's tough, but then you have to just...

02:10:14.000 When you make it, it's easy.

02:10:17.000 When your seats are sold, it's easy to do that.

02:10:21.000 But when you're trying to climb, you do end up looking at other places as markers for success, and then you become aware that you're not there.

02:10:29.000 You do, but I think that focus on other stuff, it takes away from the focus that you have on doing the best job.

02:10:37.000 Totally.

02:10:37.000 And I think the real success comes from the grind.

02:10:40.000 You just gotta grind every day.

02:10:42.000 You gotta just keep doing the same thing and do it the best you can every day.

02:10:45.000 And ultimately, trust in the process.

02:10:47.000 And after time, you see success.

02:10:49.000 But when people say, like, what is the difference between your podcast and other podcasts?

02:10:53.000 I'm like, first of all, I don't know.

02:10:55.000 Like, realistically.

02:10:57.000 I'd say I know, but I don't know.

02:10:58.000 I just did it.

02:10:59.000 But the thing that does stand out that I could say definitely is when everybody else was doing one a week or one every two weeks, I was doing three a week or four a week.

02:11:08.000 I was doing a lot of them.

02:11:10.000 And what made you decide to do that?

02:11:11.000 Is it just something you wanted to do or were you conscious that other people weren't doing it?

02:11:16.000 Or did you just do it as you wanted?

02:11:17.000 A little bit of it was conscious that other people weren't doing it.

02:11:19.000 Another thing I was saying, it's not hard, it's fun to do.

02:11:22.000 And then I'm like, give them more content and then they'll become addicted to it.

02:11:25.000 Like the whole thing is give them what they enjoy and give them a lot of it.

02:11:29.000 I was always thinking about Opie and Anthony or Howard Stern or something.

02:11:33.000 They do it every day.

02:11:34.000 Why not do it every day?

02:11:35.000 Do it as many days as you can.

02:11:36.000 And then once the show started getting popular and it was helping guys with ticket sales, it was easy to get people to come on.

02:11:42.000 Because for the first few, it was like Segura would have guys come on.

02:11:45.000 They didn't even want to do it. 0.99

02:11:46.000 There's a funny fucking clip where Segura was talking about it on the Comedy Store documentary where he was saying in the beginning, I was like, what the fuck is he doing? 0.98

02:11:56.000 Like, why are you doing this? 0.99

02:11:57.000 Like, you have a TV show in here, you're fucking alone in your house in some weird room with us smoking pot and talking shit into some weird internet show. 0.99

02:12:06.000 But I had an idea. 0.99

02:12:07.000 I was like, I think if you just keep going, it could be bigger.

02:12:10.000 Like, if you keep going, it'll reach more people.

02:12:13.000 If you keep going, you'll get better at it.

02:12:15.000 Right.

02:12:15.000 And then, eventually, it'll be something that, I mean, I didn't think it would ever make any money.

02:12:20.000 That's what's crazy.

02:12:21.000 I thought the most it would do is, like, it would help ticket sales on the road.

02:12:25.000 Right.

02:12:26.000 Then we got a sponsor, the Fleshlight.

02:12:29.000 That was the first sponsor.

02:12:31.000 Yeah, I remember the Fleshlight. 1.00

02:12:32.000 That fucking tube that you have sex with. 1.00

02:12:34.000 Yeah, you fuck it. 1.00

02:12:34.000 Yeah, it's pretty good. 1.00

02:12:35.000 You fucked it? 1.00

02:12:37.000 I fucked it. 1.00

02:12:37.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:12:38.000 That's not cheating, technically, if you're fucking a fleshlight. 0.99

02:12:41.000 I don't think so. 0.97

02:12:41.000 It feels like you're cheating, though. 0.97

02:12:42.000 It feels so good.

02:12:43.000 Especially when you just soak it in warm water.

02:12:46.000 Yeah.

02:12:47.000 Oh, you soaked it in warm water.

02:12:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:49.000 You treat it like bear.

02:12:51.000 Treat it like bear meat.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:52.000 You sous vide it.

02:12:56.000 You just did a fucking free ad for them. 1.00

02:12:58.000 Dude, I did a hundred ads for them, at least. 1.00

02:13:01.000 Hundreds.

02:13:02.000 Yeah.

02:13:03.000 We did constant ads for them, and every one of them would be like these long, rambling discussions of nutting into these weird rubber tubes.

02:13:12.000 It's not even rubber.

02:13:13.000 I don't even know what's made out of some weird gelatin or something like that.

02:13:16.000 It feels very, very realistic.

02:13:18.000 It does, huh?

02:13:19.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:13:19.000 I've never fucked one, but I'm not opposed to it. 0.99

02:13:21.000 You should try. 0.99

02:13:22.000 Yeah.

02:13:22.000 Maybe I'll get one.

02:13:23.000 There's something about it being contained in that can, too, that keeps it tight.

02:13:27.000 Yeah.

02:13:27.000 You know?

02:13:28.000 There's only so much expansion.

02:13:30.000 Right.

02:13:31.000 Feeling?

02:13:31.000 There's no babies coming in there.

02:13:32.000 That's right.

02:13:33.000 Coming out of there to stretch it out.

02:13:34.000 Clean it up, though.

02:13:35.000 Don't be glazing.

02:13:36.000 Do you put hot butter in there?

02:13:37.000 How do you make it warm?

02:13:39.000 Soak it in water.

02:13:41.000 But when you take it out, it's dry.

02:13:42.000 I mean, you need some...

02:13:43.000 But it's warm.

02:13:44.000 Yeah, but you need some fluid in there.

02:13:46.000 They have oil.

02:13:46.000 They have like lubes.

02:13:48.000 Squirt lube in there.

02:13:49.000 Nothing's better than the real thing, though.

02:13:51.000 No, of course not.

02:13:52.000 Self-lubricating holes. 1.00

02:13:53.000 Well, also, people liking you and wanting to have sex with you. 1.00

02:13:55.000 That's a big part of it. 0.98

02:13:56.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

02:13:56.000 There's a body attached to it.

02:13:57.000 You didn't feel a little weird?

02:13:59.000 Yeah, you feel a little weird.

02:14:00.000 You feel like Ed Gein for a second?

02:14:01.000 You know when you feel weird?

02:14:01.000 Right after you cum, you're like, what is wrong with me?

02:14:05.000 You know? 0.89

02:14:05.000 Yeah. 0.89

02:14:15.000 It's so funny how out the door reason is while you're jacking off and then how quickly it rushes in when you're done. 0.59

02:14:22.000 You just see yourself there, there's your pants around your ankles.

02:14:27.000 For some reason you have this moment, you see yourself.

02:14:31.000 It's like a moment where you just go like, ugh.

02:14:32.000 It's the biological trick. 0.91

02:14:35.000 You know, the biological trick where your body wants to get rid of cum. 0.95

02:14:38.000 Yeah. 0.87

02:14:39.000 As quickly as possible.

02:14:40.000 I mean, that's why there's so many humans.

02:14:41.000 That's why there's almost eight billion people on this planet.

02:14:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:44.000 Because people want to get rid of cum. 0.99

02:14:46.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:14:46.000 And your body has you convinced that this is the most important thing for you to do right now. 0.98

02:14:53.000 Yeah.

02:14:53.000 There's no feeling like it.

02:14:55.000 I mean, people blow their whole lives away with bad decisions for it.

02:14:58.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:58.000 Yeah.

02:14:58.000 Oh, my God, dude.

02:14:59.000 Yeah.

02:15:00.000 Yeah, really wealthy people.

02:15:02.000 Yes. 1.00

02:15:02.000 Look at fucking Bezos, right? 1.00

02:15:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:15:05.000 He loses, what did he lose, like 39 billion in his divorce settlement?

02:15:08.000 Yes.

02:15:09.000 But his new gal is smoking. 1.00

02:15:12.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:15:13.000 She's a predator. 0.99

02:15:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:15:14.000 You look at her and you're like, Jesus. 0.99

02:15:16.000 That's an alpha predator female. 1.00

02:15:18.000 Yeah, but the pussy, the puss puss got in mind. 1.00

02:15:20.000 Puss puss is probably incredible because girls like that, you got to respect. 1.00

02:15:23.000 They know that that's their job. 0.95

02:15:25.000 Like, I think gold diggers don't get enough credit. 1.00

02:15:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:15:27.000 They put a lot of work into that.

02:15:29.000 Why don't they teach that?

02:15:30.000 They should.

02:15:31.000 If you think about business school, what is a great business move?

02:15:37.000 There's things that people will teach you.

02:15:39.000 They'll teach you startups.

02:15:40.000 Startups don't always work.

02:15:41.000 How about restaurant businesses?

02:15:42.000 There's schools on restaurants.

02:15:44.000 60% of them fail.

02:15:46.000 It's very difficult to start a restaurant, but there's a thought about doing a restaurant as a business. 0.96

02:15:52.000 Stockbrokers, they don't give a fuck about the companies. 0.73

02:15:55.000 They're just trying to make money, right? 0.91

02:15:56.000 They're just moving things.

02:15:57.000 And the whole idea is to gain money in your portfolio, right?

02:16:00.000 That's the whole thing.

02:16:01.000 But gold digging is a huge way to make money if you're good at it.

02:16:06.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:10.000 Successful, now I'm not saying that every woman who got divorced from her husband and made a shit ton of money is a gold digger, but literally most millionaires and billionaires that are females are from divorce. 0.96

02:16:22.000 Yeah.

02:16:23.000 No, yeah.

02:16:24.000 Yeah.

02:16:24.000 Yeah, it's not even debatable.

02:16:26.000 Right.

02:16:26.000 Like, what percentage of the richest women in the world come from divorce?

02:16:30.000 It's a lot.

02:16:31.000 There's some women that are self-made. 1.00

02:16:34.000 Oprah.

02:16:34.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:16:34.000 Oprah.

02:16:35.000 Oprah's self-made.

02:16:36.000 The lady who started that Bumble, that website, self-made. 0.98

02:16:39.000 The twins, the Olsen twins?

02:16:40.000 I don't know about that.

02:16:41.000 They're kids.

02:16:42.000 Yeah, but they have a massive company.

02:16:45.000 They're close to billionaires.

02:16:46.000 Oh, after they started something new? 1.00

02:16:48.000 After, when they started their shit, yeah. 0.99

02:16:50.000 But what percentage of women, ultra-rich, got their money from divorce? 1.00

02:16:56.000 Probably a lot.

02:16:57.000 I mean...

02:16:57.000 You think 90?

02:16:58.000 No, I don't know about 90. 99?

02:17:04.000 I was going the other way.

02:17:05.000 I don't think it's that high.

02:17:07.000 You're going close to 100. You're not giving women any credit. 1.00

02:17:10.000 It's not that I'm not giving them any credit.

02:17:13.000 Listen, no doubt about it.

02:17:15.000 There's a shitload of women that have made millions, if not billions of dollars on their own. 1.00

02:17:18.000 But I think if you looked at the bulk, I just picture you coming home with your Spotify deal, just like hide it from your wife for as long as you can.

02:17:30.000 You know, they gave me about 50 G's.

02:17:32.000 She gets a newsletter. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Hey, what the fuck is this? 0.99

02:17:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:17:39.000 It's true. 0.99

02:17:40.000 I mean, Tiger Woods got fucking hammered. 0.99

02:17:43.000 He did get hammered. 0.99

02:17:44.000 Hammered.

02:17:45.000 Jeff Bezos hammered.

02:17:47.000 Bill Gates going to get hammered.

02:17:48.000 He's donating to a new foundation called Melinda Gates.

02:17:51.000 The Bill Gates one is weird, right?

02:17:53.000 Because you know there's like some stories attached to that one.

02:17:55.000 The Jeff Bezos one is pretty straightforward, right?

02:17:58.000 He had an affair with a smoking hot woman.

02:18:02.000 Yeah.

02:18:03.000 And you kind of get it. 0.98

02:18:04.000 You know, you see it, you're like, well, maybe the thrill was gone, their relationship, and they had kids together, and they had a long relationship, and then all of a sudden he meets this fucking firecracker of a woman. 0.99

02:18:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:18:17.000 And yeah, I mean, nobody will ever convince me that the most powerful thing in the world is not a woman's puss-puss. 1.00

02:18:24.000 It's number one. 0.99

02:18:24.000 It's a woman's whole essence, right? 0.99

02:18:27.000 An attractive woman. 0.98

02:18:28.000 Like I've said this before, but an attractive woman with an unattractive man who's never experienced the love of an attractive woman, they have...

02:18:36.000 An insane amount of influence.

02:18:37.000 It's a drug.

02:18:38.000 Right.

02:18:38.000 When you're around some ultra woman like that, and you've never experienced...

02:18:44.000 She's got a little waist and a big ass and big tits and a perfect face. 1.00

02:18:49.000 And she's nice to you. 1.00

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:51.000 And she touches you and she thinks you're cute.

02:18:54.000 And they got that whole thing.

02:18:57.000 That sexual energy, that kind of seductive sexual energy.

02:19:00.000 Yes.

02:19:01.000 And every...

02:19:02.000 Cell in your body.

02:19:03.000 It's like that!

02:19:04.000 That! 0.99

02:19:05.000 It's like a steak.

02:19:06.000 Get that!

02:19:06.000 And you're hungry, yeah.

02:19:07.000 Get that!

02:19:08.000 Yeah, and they do work hard.

02:19:10.000 They have to work on their body. 0.98

02:19:11.000 They have to have sex with someone they don't love. 0.99

02:19:13.000 That's a good point. 0.92

02:19:15.000 There's a lot of maintenance that goes into that.

02:19:17.000 It's a business decision.

02:19:17.000 They've got to shoo away all the other gold digger hoes trying to get there.

02:19:22.000 Some low-rent hoes trying to take your spot. 1.00

02:19:24.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:19:25.000 That's why nobody hates whores more than gold diggers. 1.00

02:19:29.000 I've been sucking on this stale dick for years. 1.00

02:19:31.000 You think you're gonna come along and suck it for $2,000? 1.00

02:19:34.000 I've been working on the long game. 1.00

02:19:37.000 The long game.

02:19:38.000 The long game is billions.

02:19:40.000 Yes.

02:19:41.000 It's a job, man.

02:19:42.000 Of course.

02:19:43.000 It's a job.

02:19:43.000 That maintenance, that type of...

02:19:45.000 She fucks that guy. 1.00

02:19:46.000 She's going to work. 1.00

02:19:48.000 She's clocking in.

02:19:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:19:49.000 Like, if some hot potato is fucking Rupert Murdoch or someone like that, like, that's a job. 0.99

02:19:55.000 That's a job, dude. 0.99

02:19:56.000 That's a job.

02:19:56.000 I mean, one of my favorite I posted every Valentine's Day is Anna Nicole Smith with that.

02:20:02.000 Oh, yes!

02:20:02.000 J. Howard Marshall.

02:20:03.000 True love.

02:20:04.000 Yeah, J. Howard Marshall.

02:20:05.000 Yeah.

02:20:05.000 I had a whole bit about the two of them together.

02:20:09.000 People are like, oh, that poor man.

02:20:12.000 She's just using you for his money. 1.00

02:20:14.000 I'm like, that guy made a billion dollars from scratch.

02:20:16.000 Yeah.

02:20:17.000 You don't think he knows?

02:20:18.000 He knows exactly what's going on.

02:20:20.000 Yeah.

02:20:20.000 Yeah, he knows.

02:20:21.000 He knows what's going on.

02:20:22.000 That guy's smart.

02:20:23.000 Yeah, I mean, he was like 90-something.

02:20:25.000 Yeah.

02:20:26.000 And he knows.

02:20:28.000 Yeah, he was an oil tycoon, right, wasn't he?

02:20:30.000 I don't remember how he made his money, but I know how he spent it.

02:20:34.000 Well, I know how she spent it.

02:20:35.000 Well, she didn't live long.

02:20:38.000 There was probably something to that.

02:20:40.000 There was probably some sadness and some drug abuse that was connected to living your life like that.

02:20:45.000 I think she was doing drugs, yeah. 1.00

02:20:47.000 I think she was doing those pills. 0.96

02:20:49.000 Man, the pills.

02:20:50.000 I don't know why.

02:20:54.000 You made it.

02:20:55.000 You got all that money.

02:20:56.000 You made it.

02:20:57.000 Yeah, but there's sadness involved in a hollow life.

02:21:00.000 But isn't there sadness in all of our lives?

02:21:02.000 Isn't it just better to have a guy's money? 0.89

02:21:09.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:21:11.000 Maybe she read it wrong, you know? 1.00

02:21:12.000 It's like, hey, I'm sad too, but I don't have to, you know, I would have sucked that guy's dick for his money. 1.00

02:21:17.000 Maybe, right? 1.00

02:21:17.000 I would have, yeah. 1.00

02:21:18.000 Depends on how much money he's willing to give you. 0.91

02:21:19.000 I don't know, if it fucking, for me, give me what? 0.92

02:21:21.000 700 million. 0.96

02:21:23.000 700 million? 1.00

02:21:23.000 You suck a cock? 1.00

02:21:24.000 Of course, are you joking? 1.00

02:21:25.000 How many cocks would you suck for 700 million? 1.00

02:21:27.000 A million of them. 1.00

02:21:28.000 A million cocks? 1.00

02:21:28.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:21:29.000 Yeah, I don't give a shit. 1.00

02:21:30.000 You know how many cocks? 1.00

02:21:31.000 A million would take so many, it's 365 days in the year. 1.00

02:21:33.000 How many dicks are you going to suck in a day? 1.00

02:21:34.000 And how many years? 1.00

02:21:36.000 Well, for how, I mean, if you give me 700 mil, Dude, I think you'd be better off with like one million.

02:21:42.000 I think you can get that on your own.

02:21:43.000 I'm going for it.

02:21:44.000 Well, tell me what the details are.

02:21:45.000 Brian Cowan said something to me once, and it's really important.

02:21:48.000 It's just true.

02:21:49.000 He goes, all you want is to be able to go to a restaurant and buy whatever you want to eat and not think about it.

02:21:55.000 He goes, that's real money. 1.00

02:21:56.000 He goes, everything else is bullshit. 1.00

02:21:58.000 He goes, you get used to your house. 1.00

02:21:59.000 I go into McDonald's and I feel that way.

02:22:01.000 I mean, he needs to get specific.

02:22:03.000 He means not worry about the bill.

02:22:05.000 Like, can I pay for this?

02:22:07.000 You know, a good bill at a restaurant is a couple hundred bucks.

02:22:09.000 But if you can go to a restaurant and not think about it, and give a nice tip and feel good, that's not that hard if you live in your means and you're successful.

02:22:19.000 That's real success.

02:22:21.000 Be able to send your kids to college, to be able to pay your mortgage. 0.99

02:22:24.000 Everything else is kind of bullshit. 0.98

02:22:27.000 I mean, I joke around, but I agree with you. 0.99

02:22:28.000 I think money's great, but I do think in this country, it's kind of a disease where people think about it too much, where it's like, the real, like when I almost thought I was gonna die when I got shot that one time, I was like, you think about the people you love, you think about your life, it's like,

02:22:44.000 a job's a job.

02:22:45.000 I mean, if it was fun, They wouldn't call it work.

02:22:49.000 There's very few of us who get to do the things we love.

02:22:53.000 We're not happy all the time.

02:22:55.000 Nobody's happy on this planet.

02:22:57.000 It's like, find yourself friends.

02:22:58.000 Find yourself life.

02:23:00.000 Find things you enjoy doing.

02:23:01.000 It's not all about money.

02:23:02.000 To be happy is not about getting all the money in the world.

02:23:05.000 No.

02:23:05.000 It's cliche, but it's true.

02:23:07.000 It is true.

02:23:07.000 Yeah.

02:23:08.000 It is true.

02:23:08.000 Life is complicated.

02:23:09.000 What's really important is friends.

02:23:11.000 Friends and loved ones.

02:23:12.000 Family and loved ones are everything.

02:23:15.000 It's the only true currency.

02:23:16.000 Yeah.

02:23:16.000 Dude, when I have like a cookout at my house and have people over that I love and we're having a glass of wine and laughing and hanging out by the pool and just putting your feet up and just telling stories and just laughing, it doesn't get any better.

02:23:29.000 It's number one.

02:23:29.000 It's everything.

02:23:31.000 Friendship and love and family is everything.

02:23:34.000 If you don't have that, that's why I was talking about these comics that are islands, that all want it to be all about them.

02:23:41.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

02:23:42.000 Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

02:23:43.000 There's these guys, they never develop these tight bonds with other people where they can be vulnerable, they could be friendly and supportive and have real love between other comics and other peers. 0.99

02:23:57.000 They're sad, fucking angry, bitter, twisted people. 0.99

02:24:00.000 And it's so hard to see, man. 0.99

02:24:02.000 I think also they don't want to push themselves out of their comfort zone and be insecure, be around somebody who's bigger, be around somebody who's more successful.

02:24:11.000 You have to be humble and you have to challenge yourself to be around new experiences and new people.

02:24:17.000 You have to be open to looking at these other individuals as what they are and not comparing them to you You know when you work with someone like when I work with Chappelle for instance Chappelle has this new bit that he's doing about the Me Too movement that is so goddamn good That it's it's like it's one of those movements.

02:24:36.000 It's one of those bits rather where you There's an instinct to get jealous like why didn't I think of that one?

02:24:44.000 I felt that way about your hyena bit, because I love hyenas. 1.00

02:24:47.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:24:49.000 That is so good, man. 1.00

02:24:51.000 A female-run world. 1.00

02:24:52.000 We have evidence of it.

02:24:54.000 Yeah, it's real. 1.00

02:24:55.000 And it's fucked. 1.00

02:24:55.000 It's fucked. 1.00

02:24:56.000 It's a fucking hilarious bit, man. 1.00

02:24:58.000 I love it. 0.88

02:24:58.000 Thank you. 0.88

02:24:59.000 But there's these moments where you go, but instead of that, I just appreciate him, first of all, as a person.

02:25:08.000 Dave is a beautiful person.

02:25:10.000 He is one of the genuinely nicest, kindest people I've ever met in my life.

02:25:14.000 And with everybody.

02:25:15.000 He's just sweet and kind.

02:25:17.000 And when he's doing that bit, I just appreciate that I'm watching a rare gem.

02:25:23.000 I'm watching a rare thing.

02:25:24.000 I'm like, wow.

02:25:25.000 That's my friend up there.

02:25:26.000 Like, look at him go.

02:25:28.000 Look at him go.

02:25:29.000 Look at him go, and look at him crying and laughing.

02:25:32.000 I was watching him at the MGM, and it was me and my business manager, Matt, and who's also family.

02:25:39.000 I've been with him for 25 years, something like that.

02:25:42.000 And we're laughing like, ah, ah, Jesus Christ!

02:25:47.000 And I'm just thinking, God, how beautiful is this?

02:25:50.000 It's beautiful.

02:25:50.000 It's beautiful to see someone who's like, you know, Dave is arguably the greatest of all time.

02:25:55.000 He's in that running.

02:25:56.000 For sure.

02:25:56.000 You know?

02:25:57.000 I mean, when he dies, they're going to put him right there with Pryor.

02:26:00.000 They're going to put him right there with all those guys.

02:26:01.000 For sure.

02:26:02.000 Hands down.

02:26:03.000 Hands down.

02:26:04.000 And to watch him. 1.00

02:26:05.000 He's just like, you can compare yourself and you can go, fuck, why isn't that me? 0.99

02:26:09.000 Why am I not? 0.99

02:26:10.000 But, nah, don't.

02:26:12.000 Don't.

02:26:12.000 Just do your best.

02:26:13.000 Right.

02:26:13.000 Do your best and enjoy what you're seeing there and just enjoy that.

02:26:17.000 It's magic.

02:26:19.000 It's an evolved way and you have to be secure to do that.

02:26:22.000 It's hard to be secure, man.

02:26:23.000 It requires effort and work.

02:26:25.000 You can't just be secure.

02:26:27.000 You can't just be comfortable with things.

02:26:29.000 You've got to work at it.

02:26:30.000 It's like everything else in life.

02:26:32.000 You've got to work at being nice.

02:26:34.000 I've worked hard at being nice.

02:26:36.000 And when I got into comedy in my early 20s, when I was 21, I was not nice.

02:26:42.000 I was coming from a competitive fighting background.

02:26:45.000 It was beneficial for me to be mean.

02:26:47.000 There was a certain amount of meanness that you had to have to go out and attack somebody.

02:26:54.000 That's what it is.

02:26:55.000 You're trying to hurt somebody.

02:26:57.000 There's meanness.

02:26:58.000 And to shift over to comedy and to realize, like, you gotta let that go.

02:27:03.000 Like, abandon that. 0.68

02:27:04.000 But then I was like, well, how do I fucking placate these demons inside me?

02:27:08.000 And then I'm like, oh, you just do it with hard work. 0.94

02:27:10.000 Just figure out, just hard exercise.

02:27:14.000 It's brutal exercise.

02:27:15.000 Exercise those demons out.

02:27:17.000 And then you can be nice.

02:27:18.000 And it's better for everybody.

02:27:20.000 It's better for you.

02:27:21.000 It's better for the people you meet.

02:27:22.000 It's better for everybody.

02:27:24.000 It can be done.

02:27:25.000 A lot of people don't do it.

02:27:27.000 I mean, you are a nice guy.

02:27:28.000 I try really hard.

02:27:29.000 Yeah, you're a nice guy.

02:27:31.000 Comics talk about that.

02:27:32.000 When you see all these articles and stuff, those people don't know you at all.

02:27:36.000 As a person, you're a good dude.

02:27:38.000 You're a nice guy.

02:27:39.000 You help a lot of people out.

02:27:41.000 Pretty reasonable when you sit down and speak to you.

02:27:43.000 I try real hard.

02:27:45.000 Thank you.

02:27:45.000 I try real hard.

02:27:46.000 I work at it.

02:27:47.000 I really do work at it.

02:27:48.000 You can cherry pick from anybody and find moments when they weren't nice, and you can definitely find some from me.

02:27:53.000 But I try.

02:27:54.000 I try real hard.

02:27:55.000 Is that something that comes with success though?

02:27:57.000 It helps.

02:27:58.000 Because I can see why guys get bitter when they don't.

02:28:00.000 Yes.

02:28:00.000 Like when you miss a boat or...

02:28:02.000 A lot of times success isn't even...

02:28:05.000 Sometimes it's the luck of a person being somewhere at the right time.

02:28:08.000 For sure.

02:28:08.000 Sometimes failure is just the person was unlucky and that they were at the wrong time.

02:28:13.000 There's that.

02:28:14.000 But there's also sometimes...

02:28:15.000 They get swept away by cultural forces.

02:28:16.000 For sure.

02:28:18.000 For sure.

02:28:19.000 There's also times when sometimes people get some success and then they get either lazy or they get self-indulgent.

02:28:30.000 Self-indulgent is really common. 0.98

02:28:32.000 That's a fucking hard one to avoid. 0.98

02:28:35.000 You've got to avoid that one, the self-indulgent one, because you want to pat yourself on the back and you want to look at all the things, but you can't. 0.99

02:28:44.000 There's no benefit in that.

02:28:46.000 It's the devil's trick.

02:28:47.000 Right.

02:28:48.000 It really is.

02:28:49.000 I guess you've got to remind yourself that none of us are in control.

02:28:52.000 Nature is.

02:28:53.000 Nature is.

02:28:53.000 It keeps everybody humble.

02:28:54.000 Well, you've been shot.

02:28:56.000 Yeah.

02:28:56.000 You talked about it before on the podcast, and anybody who knows you is listening to you talk about it.

02:29:02.000 You got close to death, and I think when someone has been close to death, they have more of an appreciation.

02:29:08.000 If you can recapture the way you felt at that moment- I can, yeah.

02:29:11.000 It changed everything.

02:29:13.000 It changes your perspective on everything, and it changes what you view as valuable.

02:29:22.000 Freedom, time, hard laughs, like you said, loving people.

02:29:27.000 Those things... 0.98

02:29:29.000 It's cliche and it sounds stupid, but I'll tell you what, it's true. 0.99

02:29:33.000 It's 100% true. 0.97

02:29:34.000 Because when you're in that moment, you ain't going to be thinking about your bank account.

02:29:36.000 No, no.

02:29:38.000 You're going to be thinking about survival.

02:29:40.000 And you know, it's just so easy to get...

02:29:42.000 You know, the human brain is not designed for the modern world.

02:29:45.000 The human brain evolved trying to run away from predators and trying to find food.

02:29:50.000 And it requires problems.

02:29:55.000 The human brain looks for problems.

02:29:57.000 It looks for conflict.

02:29:58.000 It looks for all these things.

02:30:00.000 And, you know, ego exists because you want your genes to pass on.

02:30:05.000 It's the only way that the human race is successful.

02:30:08.000 You have to propagate.

02:30:09.000 You have to figure out a way to pass your genes.

02:30:16.000 The body has figured out a way to enforce that is a little bit of a trap, and that's the ego.

02:30:23.000 Part of the thing is you feeling so good about yourself that you think you should be passed on, that you think your genes should keep going, that you should be the one that gets the girl.

02:30:32.000 Yeah.

02:30:33.000 It makes us and it breaks us.

02:30:35.000 It's like the same thing that takes you down is the thing that...

02:30:38.000 There's no way out of here.

02:30:40.000 There's no way out of here!

02:30:42.000 It's insanely complicated.

02:30:44.000 And it's a puzzle that you have to constantly invest time in solving.

02:30:48.000 You never think you got it nailed.

02:30:50.000 That's the thing.

02:30:50.000 You have to constantly check yourself and check it and push yourself.

02:30:56.000 And that's why I have such a problem, I think we all do, with people who Make these big categorical statements like, this is the answer.

02:31:06.000 And that's what all these people do on Twitter now.

02:31:08.000 That's what all these media headlines and articles are about.

02:31:11.000 This is what it is.

02:31:12.000 This is who Joe Rogan is. 1.00

02:31:14.000 You're like, are you fucking... 0.99

02:31:15.000 I mean, nobody's that. 0.99

02:31:17.000 Nothing is that.

02:31:18.000 Nothing's defined like that, except for math.

02:31:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:31:24.000 People are changing every minute.

02:31:26.000 Things are dynamic.

02:31:29.000 Everyone's claiming to have ownership of what things are.

02:31:34.000 I can't believe more people aren't more skeptical of people who want to be out there.

02:31:41.000 I think they're being more skeptical of it now than ever because I think overall we've never really had anything like social media before where you get to see people virtue signal and get to see people put out these words and these messages designed to get people to like them,

02:31:58.000 designed to get people to literally hit that like button or hit that retweet button.

02:32:03.000 Is he ratioed?

02:32:06.000 Did that tweet get ratioed?

02:32:07.000 And people get obsessed with that stuff.

02:32:09.000 It's like that's the biggest driving force now for the generations coming up, which is scary.

02:32:13.000 Yeah.

02:32:14.000 Because you create a version of yourself that's not true.

02:32:17.000 And it's almost like you're in entertainment business when you're not.

02:32:21.000 But everyone's in entertainment business. 1.00

02:32:22.000 It's scary because I've met a lot of people in entertainment business and they're fucking horrible people. 0.99

02:32:26.000 It's not a good business to develop your emotional intelligence in. 0.99

02:32:33.000 It's such a tricky business.

02:32:35.000 And the business is so disingenuous from top to bottom.

02:32:39.000 You know, from executives to casting directors to actors to, you know, everything, to the press.

02:32:45.000 So all of it is just, it's not about finding truth and being compassionate. 0.94

02:32:50.000 It's about bullshit and celebrating people for all the weirdest reasons. 0.94

02:32:55.000 Right. 1.00

02:32:55.000 A look or, you know, whatever it may be. 1.00

02:32:58.000 Whatever it is, yeah.

02:32:59.000 It's the opposite of trying to find for truth.

02:33:01.000 Actually, I think if there's an opposite of searching for truth or honesty, it's entertainment.

02:33:06.000 Yeah, but also sometimes not.

02:33:09.000 Like sometimes entertainment is like pure honesty.

02:33:12.000 Like sometimes you'll meet someone who's like a pure artist and you have this like, oh, okay.

02:33:19.000 Well, when they do that, they're never thinking about reconciling themselves with the marketplace.

02:33:23.000 No.

02:33:23.000 It's just they create something so incredible, the marketplace comes to it because we're all watching something that's incredible art.

02:33:30.000 My friend, who's my best example of that, is Gary Clark Jr. Gary Clark Jr. Do you know Gary Clark Jr?

02:33:37.000 No.

02:33:37.000 He's one of the greatest guitarists who's ever lived.

02:33:39.000 And that motherfucker doesn't give a shit about fame. 1.00

02:33:42.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:33:43.000 I mean, genuinely doesn't think about it at all. 0.99

02:33:46.000 When you talk to him, he's all just talking about his music.

02:33:48.000 He's just talking about creating and doing this and changing that.

02:33:52.000 And he's so soft-spoken and he doesn't want attention at all.

02:33:55.000 And then when that guy gets on the guitar, he's magical.

02:33:58.000 Magical, man.

02:34:00.000 Magical.

02:34:01.000 He's so good.

02:34:02.000 He's so good.

02:34:03.000 It's ironic that it's just weird that like that's not the most famous stuff. 0.96

02:34:10.000 Yeah, he's pretty fucking famous. 0.79

02:34:12.000 He played in front of 20,000 people. 0.96

02:34:13.000 Jamie, you saw him last night, right? 1.00

02:34:15.000 How good is that motherfucker? 1.00

02:34:18.000 He's so good. 1.00

02:34:19.000 Do you think if he was like Rolling Stones known, it would kind of ruin that in him?

02:34:24.000 I don't know. 0.99

02:34:25.000 He doesn't give a fuck about it. 0.98

02:34:26.000 It's not going to happen. 0.98

02:34:27.000 He doesn't want to.

02:34:28.000 He doesn't care.

02:34:29.000 He genuinely doesn't care.

02:34:31.000 He makes plenty of money.

02:34:33.000 He's got a beautiful wife and a happy family.

02:34:35.000 That's the best.

02:34:36.000 That's him last night.

02:34:36.000 Oh, so yeah, he's not...

02:34:38.000 That was in Austin last night. 0.99

02:34:41.000 Goddamn, look at all those people. 0.99

02:34:42.000 That's a lot of people. 0.98

02:34:43.000 That can't just be 20,000 people.

02:34:45.000 That looks like a lot more.

02:34:46.000 It was pretty spread out. 0.99

02:34:47.000 People sitting down and shit. 0.99

02:34:49.000 Yeah, but how many people is that? 0.99

02:34:51.000 Whatever it is.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, it's a lot. 0.99

02:34:52.000 It's a fuckload. 0.99

02:34:53.000 It's a lot. 0.96

02:34:54.000 It's the most I've seen in an area in a while. 0.96

02:34:57.000 It's a fuckload of people.

02:34:58.000 But he's just like, he's a real artist. 0.94

02:35:01.000 And when you are around a real artist, you watch a real artist perform, it comes through.

02:35:06.000 Like, we saw him, Jamie and I saw him at Antone's in Austin.

02:35:11.000 Which is like, how many people were in that audience?

02:35:13.000 150?

02:35:13.000 That was, yeah, way, way, way less.

02:35:15.000 Yeah, that was in the early days of the pandemic, where everybody caught the cooties that night.

02:35:19.000 Oh, everybody got it.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, someone had it, and they were in the green room, and they spread it around to everybody.

02:35:27.000 You didn't get it though, right?

02:35:27.000 No.

02:35:27.000 You got that fucking tiger blood.

02:35:29.000 I do a lot of things to avoid it, you know? 1.00

02:35:33.000 Between all the vitamins I take and sauna use and all the wild shit that I do and taking peptides and all that stuff, I've ducked it.

02:35:40.000 Which for the record is not officially what takes it away. 0.56

02:35:44.000 What?

02:35:45.000 Saunas.

02:35:46.000 Doesn't take it away?

02:35:47.000 Like officially taking a sauna is not going to prevent you from getting it.

02:35:51.000 I don't know.

02:35:52.000 You may have the blood type or something that doesn't get it.

02:35:54.000 There's a study that actually just came out about viral infections and sauna use.

02:36:03.000 I'll send this to you.

02:36:04.000 Do you sauna alone?

02:36:06.000 Nobody's going to go in there with me.

02:36:07.000 Because the Swedes, you go up there, the whole family is there naked. 1.00

02:36:10.000 I mean, I'll go in occasionally with my wife, but I like to deep breathe and it gets uncomfortable if someone's in the room with me.

02:36:16.000 I take these big, long, slow, deep breaths and then I let it out.

02:36:21.000 It's like, here, I'll find this thing.

02:36:23.000 The article was about sauna linked to longer life and sauna linked to... 0.93

02:36:30.000 Here, I'll fucking find this thing here.

02:36:32.000 The Scandinavian's been doing it for how long? 0.99

02:36:35.000 Many years.

02:36:35.000 There's got to be something to it, right?

02:36:37.000 Yeah.

02:36:37.000 Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie.

02:36:41.000 Well, in Finland, they did a study where they linked it to a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality, 175 degrees for 20 minutes four times a week, 40% decrease in strokes, cancer,

02:36:56.000 heart attack, everything.

02:36:58.000 Turning up the heat on COVID-19, heat as a therapeutic intervention.

02:37:02.000 And this is a medical paper that was published.

02:37:07.000 And the whole idea is about when your body gets sick, When you get a viral infection, one of the things that happens is you get a fever.

02:37:15.000 And what the fever is is your body trying to kill the virus.

02:37:19.000 And the way your body can kill the virus is to make sure that your body temperature is so hot the virus can't survive it.

02:37:27.000 That makes sense with the sauna.

02:37:29.000 Right.

02:37:29.000 So I do that on purpose.

02:37:31.000 So I'm getting to 200 degrees sometimes.

02:37:35.000 Four days a week at least.

02:37:36.000 Dude, if you want to beat the virus, move to Phoenix.

02:37:39.000 Yeah, right?

02:37:40.000 Just lay on the sidewalk.

02:37:43.000 No, I think you have to get isolated.

02:37:48.000 I think the thing that's so beneficial about the sauna is that you're trapped in this room and you can't survive.

02:37:56.000 At 195 degrees for very long.

02:37:59.000 You can only do it for 25 minutes or whatever it is.

02:38:01.000 And in doing that, the heat shock proteins that your body produces create all these anti-inflammatory properties, but also it just kills things.

02:38:10.000 Right, right, right, because of the heat, because of the level of the heat, right? 0.96

02:38:12.000 You're fucking sweating like crazy in there. 0.81

02:38:14.000 And probably ice baths do the same thing because of the temperature, right? 0.99

02:38:18.000 Like everything is...

02:38:19.000 I would imagine there's some benefit there.

02:38:21.000 I know there's some benefit with cold shock proteins that reduce inflammation, but I don't know if it works the same way with viruses.

02:38:27.000 Right.

02:38:28.000 Did you see that paper that I sent you?

02:38:30.000 I didn't get a link, but I found it, too.

02:38:32.000 I just sent it to you.

02:38:33.000 Did it come through?

02:38:34.000 I just got it.

02:38:34.000 Oh, okay.

02:38:35.000 I have the same one looking at it anyway.

02:38:37.000 Yeah, so there's people that are considering all sorts of different things, and this is one of them.

02:38:41.000 Turning up the heat on COVID-19.

02:38:42.000 Heat as a therapeutic intervention.

02:38:45.000 And so this is a peer-reviewed paper, I believe, and it's all about the idea of...

02:38:52.000 Stop right there.

02:38:54.000 SARS-CoV-2 are sensitive to heat and destroyed by temperatures tolerable to humans.

02:38:59.000 All mammals use fever to deal with infections, and heat has long been used throughout human history in the form of hot springs, saunas...

02:39:07.000 I don't know what the hell...

02:39:08.000 Hamam. 0.90

02:39:09.000 Hamams? 0.94

02:39:09.000 Yeah. 0.94

02:39:10.000 Steam rooms, sweat lodges.

02:39:11.000 The paper reviews the evidence for using heat to treat and prevent viral infections and discuss potential cellular, physiological, and psychological mechanisms of action.

02:39:22.000 In the initial phase of infection, heat is applied to the upper airwaves and it can support the immune system's first line of defense by supporting mycomuco, I guess that's mucus, muco, M-U-C-O, mucociliary clearance and inhibiting or deactivating They

02:39:58.000 make medical words.

02:40:00.000 They make it so hard, the words.

02:40:14.000 I guarantee you it has something to do with it, man. 0.97

02:40:16.000 I know so many fucking people around me that have gotten COVID. Mm-hmm. 0.98

02:40:20.000 While I didn't get it.

02:40:21.000 I'm not saying it's 100% the reason why, because I think it's a combination of a lot of other things.

02:40:28.000 I take a shitload of vitamins.

02:40:30.000 Right.

02:40:30.000 And there's a lot of other things that I do.

02:40:32.000 I make sure I get rest, and I exercise all the time, a lot of cardiovascular exercise, weight lifting, all that stuff.

02:40:37.000 Right, you're a healthy guy.

02:40:38.000 But I think the sauna, it has an effect, man.

02:40:41.000 There's no way it doesn't.

02:40:42.000 It makes you feel great.

02:40:44.000 Yeah, it's definitely good for you.

02:40:46.000 They know that for sure.

02:40:48.000 Yeah.

02:40:48.000 Like, they know that it is good for you, whether you're trying to fight a virus or not, or avoid a virus, or it's good for you.

02:40:56.000 Yeah, and there has been studies about decrease in viral infections from people that use sauna.

02:41:03.000 I think they showed a 50% decrease in people that use saunas on a regular basis are 50% less likely.

02:41:11.000 I forget that study, though.

02:41:12.000 I forget where that study came from.

02:41:14.000 But if it was true, though, then Sweden wouldn't have...

02:41:17.000 Had a problem with COVID because they all saw her.

02:41:19.000 Do they all?

02:41:21.000 I doubt they all.

02:41:22.000 A lot of them, sauna.

02:41:23.000 I bet a lot of them, dude.

02:41:23.000 What does that mean?

02:41:24.000 A lot of Americans play football.

02:41:25.000 I don't play football.

02:41:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:41:27.000 It's like, what is all?

02:41:28.000 Like, you're known for hot dogs in America.

02:41:30.000 How many people eat hot dogs here?

02:41:31.000 I haven't had a hot dog in years.

02:41:33.000 You're the exception.

02:41:34.000 But you know what I'm saying?

02:41:35.000 Yeah.

02:41:36.000 A lot of people eat hot dogs.

02:41:37.000 Right.

02:41:37.000 But Americans are known for it.

02:41:38.000 Hot dogs cured COVID. No Americans would have hot dogs.

02:41:42.000 There's fucking millions of Americans that go years without hot dogs. 0.99

02:41:45.000 I'd be curious. 1.00

02:41:45.000 How many Swedes take sauna? 1.00

02:41:47.000 That's a good question.

02:41:48.000 It doesn't say, but they have a capita, one per household.

02:41:52.000 I mean, that's a lot, dude.

02:41:54.000 Yeah, I told you.

02:41:54.000 Right, but I have one in my household.

02:41:55.000 My fucking kids never go in there. 1.00

02:41:57.000 That's true. 1.00

02:41:58.000 While it's partially cellular, it's also responsible because of the weather.

02:42:02.000 Finnish winters are the low of 35 degrees Celsius.

02:42:06.000 Yikes! 1.00

02:42:06.000 It's a cultural thing for them. 1.00

02:42:08.000 They go in the whole family.

02:42:09.000 Grandma's titties are there. 0.98

02:42:10.000 Everyone sees each other just naked. 0.98

02:42:13.000 When I would go perform there, early in my comedy career, I would go there and perform.

02:42:19.000 And they would invite me into the sauna, and I just wasn't comfortable enough to be naked with them.

02:42:24.000 Yeah, why do they have to be naked? 1.00

02:42:25.000 They can't wear underwear? 1.00

02:42:26.000 They're fucking weirdos? 1.00

02:42:26.000 They're cool with it. 1.00

02:42:28.000 Like, they're just cool with it.

02:42:29.000 They just check out cocks. 1.00

02:42:30.000 They're just different.

02:42:31.000 They like saunas.

02:42:33.000 They drink.

02:42:33.000 Dude, they're like gremlins.

02:42:35.000 The finish?

02:42:35.000 Yeah.

02:42:36.000 They're nice and cute and cuddly during the day.

02:42:38.000 They're shy.

02:42:38.000 They don't make eye contact.

02:42:39.000 They're very nice. 1.00

02:42:40.000 And then they drink and they become fucking assholes. 1.00

02:42:43.000 Really? 1.00

02:42:44.000 Yeah.

02:42:45.000 Really?

02:42:45.000 Their personalities change like crazy.

02:42:48.000 Like in what way?

02:42:49.000 They just become like caustic and kind of like aggressive.

02:42:52.000 Really?

02:42:53.000 Yeah.

02:42:53.000 To you or to everybody?

02:42:54.000 To me, to everybody.

02:42:55.000 They become animals.

02:42:56.000 Yeah, they're like gremlins. 1.00

02:42:57.000 You pour a little fucking liquor on them, they change. 1.00

02:42:59.000 Wow. 1.00

02:43:00.000 It's wild, dude.

02:43:01.000 I don't think they have...

02:43:03.000 I remember reading somewhere that Northern Europeans struggle more with alcohol and don't have as...

02:43:09.000 We're not as good a tolerance as Southern Europeans because Southern Europeans have had alcohol for a lot longer, similar to the Asians who don't do great with it either, Native Americans. 1.00

02:43:19.000 There's some enzyme or some shit that like Southern Europeans have and that's why we have less of an incidence of alcoholism Than the Northern Europeans who can't handle their liquor because they're fucking animals. 1.00

02:43:31.000 I would think that it's also because of the depression that comes from the lack of sunshine. 1.00

02:43:35.000 They have the highest suicide rate.

02:43:36.000 Highest suicide rates in one of those countries.

02:43:39.000 Norway, Sweden.

02:43:40.000 Really?

02:43:41.000 Yeah, they offed themselves.

02:43:42.000 Ooh.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, because it's just dark all the time. 1.00

02:43:44.000 Fuck that. 0.99

02:43:45.000 Well, that's the direct correlation between the Pacific Northwest, right? 1.00

02:43:48.000 Yeah.

02:43:48.000 High suicide rate up there.

02:43:50.000 Yep.

02:43:50.000 Alaska.

02:43:51.000 Also high heroin use.

02:43:52.000 Yeah.

02:43:53.000 Yeah.

02:43:53.000 Fuck.

02:43:54.000 That's taking over the whole country, though. 1.00

02:43:57.000 Heroin.

02:43:57.000 It's big.

02:43:58.000 And you know, it's interesting, it kind of got big when we got control of Afghanistan.

02:44:02.000 That's a coincidence. 1.00

02:44:03.000 Don't be an asshole. 1.00

02:44:05.000 Poppy seeds got cheaper. 1.00

02:44:06.000 Total coincidence.

02:44:07.000 Just because the American military was guarding the poppy fields on TV, did you ever see that video?

02:44:14.000 No.

02:44:14.000 Geraldo Rivera interviewing a general while the general was standing in front of, like, literally, you're looking at troops guarding poppy fields.

02:44:24.000 Yeah, it's obvious.

02:44:26.000 It's like what?

02:44:26.000 And then it becomes like the most popular drug in the suburbs in America.

02:44:29.000 It's like affordable.

02:44:30.000 It's kind of weird.

02:44:31.000 Yeah, that one's kind of weird. 0.97

02:44:32.000 That one's kind of fucking obvious. 0.94

02:44:34.000 It's not just obvious. 0.98

02:44:35.000 It goes all the way back to the Vietnam War.

02:44:37.000 Yeah.

02:44:37.000 There it is.

02:44:39.000 So, Geraldo, play some of this because it's kind of hilarious.

02:44:42.000 Fighting the opium trade, what?

02:44:44.000 The Taliban lend the farmers the money.

02:44:47.000 They are indebted to the Taliban. 0.77

02:44:49.000 They have to grow the opium.

02:44:50.000 Now the Marines in their success are, in a sense, a victim of their success because now the population What a spin.

02:45:13.000 Yeah.

02:45:14.000 Listen to this spin.

02:45:15.000 The 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.

02:45:17.000 Really a wonderful group of Marines here.

02:45:19.000 Wonderful group of heroin guards.

02:45:22.000 Yeah.

02:45:28.000 How do you know it grinds at his gut?

02:45:35.000 This is wild.

02:45:37.000 Well, frankly, this is part of their culture.

02:45:39.000 So, while it might grind in my gut, it's what they do.

02:45:43.000 We provide them security, we're providing them resources, and we're providing them alternatives.

02:45:47.000 And they provide us with a kickback when we sell them.

02:45:50.000 Did you ever see when Sturgill Simpson got on Saturday Night Live?

02:45:54.000 He sang a song that talked about it.

02:45:57.000 Talked about protecting the heroin trade.

02:46:01.000 No, I didn't.

02:46:03.000 They probably got a little, they got a piece of that, no?

02:46:06.000 We'll protect, you know, just give us a little...

02:46:08.000 Something is being exchanged.

02:46:10.000 People are making money.

02:46:11.000 Who are those people?

02:46:13.000 I don't know, but there's obviously a lot of money in heroin.

02:46:16.000 They're not growing it for fun.

02:46:17.000 No, and it's killing, like, suburban kids.

02:46:20.000 Like, I have my wife's friend was, like, this nice kid, and, like, he died from a heroin overdose.

02:46:25.000 And, like, the people who are dying from heroin overdoses now don't look like your stereotypical... 0.99

02:46:31.000 Heroin user from like the 80s, you know, they look like just normal kids and they're in high school and they come from good families and for some reason they're doing fucking heroin. 0.76

02:46:39.000 Well, it's also very contradictory.

02:46:41.000 It's confusing because the real solution Is probably legalization of everything across the board.

02:46:50.000 That's probably the real solution.

02:46:52.000 Usage, for sure.

02:46:53.000 Because the problem is you have these cartels that are bringing this stuff into America illegally.

02:47:00.000 And they're also spiking everything with fentanyl because it's cheaper, so they cut things.

02:47:05.000 And so these kids get a hold of people that are addicted. 1.00

02:47:09.000 They get a hold of this fentanyl-laced shit and have these fucking horrible overdoses. 1.00

02:47:13.000 And the reason why they're overdosing is because it's illegal. 1.00

02:47:17.000 Because you don't know what the exact dosage is.

02:47:20.000 Like, people are going to overdose from alcohol.

02:47:21.000 They're going to die from it.

02:47:22.000 But if you buy a bottle of this...

02:47:26.000 How do you say that name?

02:47:27.000 Laphroaig. 0.94

02:47:28.000 Laphroaig. 0.94

02:47:29.000 It's very good, right?

02:47:29.000 Very good.

02:47:30.000 If you're into smokey, peaty...

02:47:31.000 I love that stuff.

02:47:32.000 Scotch, yeah.

02:47:33.000 You know what it is.

02:47:34.000 One shot is one shot, right?

02:47:36.000 It's not one shot with fentanyl in it. 0.75

02:47:39.000 It might kill you.

02:47:40.000 These kids are getting a hold of this stuff.

02:47:41.000 These people, I should say.

02:47:42.000 It's not just kids.

02:47:44.000 They're getting a hold of stuff and it's laced.

02:47:46.000 Why is it laced?

02:47:47.000 It's laced because it's unregulated.

02:47:48.000 Why is it unregulated?

02:47:50.000 Because it's illegal.

02:47:51.000 Why is it illegal? 0.99

02:47:52.000 Because we have a fucking war on substances that doesn't make any sense. 0.98

02:47:57.000 It's a war on freedom, essentially. 0.99

02:47:58.000 Your freedom to do whatever you want with your body.

02:48:00.000 Right.

02:48:01.000 Right.

02:48:01.000 No, it's, you know...

02:48:03.000 That's a well-documented argument.

02:48:07.000 I think Portugal, right?

02:48:08.000 They legalized...

02:48:10.000 Decriminalized everything.

02:48:11.000 Decriminalized the usage of it, but it's still illegal to sell it.

02:48:14.000 Right.

02:48:14.000 Which seems like a pretty reasonable way to handle it.

02:48:18.000 Yeah.

02:48:18.000 Like, okay, if you're dealing with it, it's bad because we know that it's bad for people, but we can't criminalize the users of it.

02:48:25.000 Those people are sick and they're addicted.

02:48:26.000 They're not committing a crime to anyone else. 1.00

02:48:28.000 They're hurting themselves.

02:48:30.000 It's a step in the right direction, but why is it legal to sell?

02:48:35.000 Like Carl Hart, I bring up way too often on the podcast, but I do it because I love him.

02:48:39.000 Dr. Carl Hart, who's a professor at Columbia, he talks about how he likes heroin, enjoys it, but he gets pure heroin and he sniffs it.

02:48:47.000 Does he micro-dose it or he goes full-blown?

02:48:49.000 He sniffs it.

02:48:49.000 Wow.

02:48:50.000 You have to talk to him about it.

02:48:51.000 Yeah.

02:48:51.000 But when you talk about his perspective, his perspective is he was a clinical researcher and had this idea of drugs, that drugs are terrible, terrible for you.

02:49:02.000 But along the line, doing his research, you realize that the propaganda about what drugs are is very different than the actual drugs themselves.

02:49:11.000 Interesting.

02:49:11.000 And he likes drugs.

02:49:13.000 Right.

02:49:13.000 And he talks about, like, you can use drugs and be happy and successful.

02:49:18.000 He's like, it's not the problem.

02:49:19.000 The problem is a lack of education, a lack of understanding about the actual effects of these drugs, propaganda.

02:49:26.000 I mean, Freud used to sniff blow.

02:49:30.000 Used to blow lines. 0.99

02:49:31.000 Some weird fucking ideas, too. 0.99

02:49:34.000 I'm pretty sure you said you haven't seen the show The Wire before. 0.99

02:49:37.000 Oh, yes!

02:49:38.000 I've never seen the whole...

02:49:38.000 So there's a concept in season three or four called...

02:49:40.000 I was thinking about that.

02:49:41.000 It's Tim Dillon, actually.

02:49:43.000 Is it? 0.99

02:49:44.000 That twat. 0.98

02:49:45.000 They call this a section of an area of town called Hamsterdam, like Amsterdam, where what you're saying is allowed. 0.97

02:49:53.000 The police blocked off a couple blocks.

02:49:55.000 They said no gangs allowed to fight in here.

02:49:56.000 They protected that area for drug users.

02:49:59.000 So I just was Googling that because I thought I'd heard something about this happening.

02:50:01.000 Where is this?

02:50:03.000 It's fictional in Baltimore.

02:50:05.000 Oh, okay.

02:50:06.000 However...

02:50:07.000 I think?

02:50:27.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:50:28.000 Drug possession.

02:50:30.000 Attempted distribution of...

02:50:31.000 What is C? Controlled substances?

02:50:33.000 Is that what it is?

02:50:35.000 Partifinalia possession. 0.99

02:50:36.000 Prostitution. 0.90

02:50:37.000 Holla. 0.98

02:50:38.000 Trespassing.

02:50:39.000 Minor...

02:50:40.000 Trespassing is a problem.

02:50:41.000 You can't just have people trespassing in people's houses.

02:50:44.000 Minor traffic offenses.

02:50:45.000 Great.

02:50:46.000 Open containers.

02:50:46.000 Great.

02:50:47.000 Rogue and vagabond.

02:50:50.000 Probably just... 1.00

02:50:51.000 Urinating and defecating in public. 0.99

02:50:53.000 Maybe you should probably stop people from shitting in public. 0.99

02:50:56.000 It added that to you, but the rest of it is... 1.00

02:50:59.000 You know, guys, feel free to shit on Main Street. 0.99

02:51:03.000 It's wide open. 0.98

02:51:04.000 Furthermore, during this past year, they have dismissed 1,423 pending cases considered eligible by COVID policies, quashed 1,415 warrants for aforementioned offenses, pushed Governor Hogan to reduce the prison population,

02:51:20.000 resulting in two executive orders of the early release of 2,000 people.

02:51:24.000 Two violent crimes down, property crime down.

02:51:26.000 Wow.

02:51:26.000 It's been successful, yeah.

02:51:28.000 That's amazing.

02:51:28.000 Violent crime down 20%, property crime down 36% during the same period of March 13, 2020 to March 13, 2021. That's amazing.

02:51:38.000 Well, that's good, except I'm down with all those things except for shitting in the street and breaking into people's houses.

02:51:44.000 The data show that 911 calls about drug use, public intoxication, and sex work, a proxy for public concern, did not increase when following the policy.

02:51:55.000 Rather, from March until December 2020, there was a 33% reduction in calls.

02:52:01.000 Mentioning drugs, and a 50% reduction in calls mentioning sex work.

02:52:05.000 Who's calling and ratting on people getting laid? 1.00

02:52:08.000 Fucking weirdos. 1.00

02:52:09.000 You know, The Wire, dude, they teach classes about that at Harvard. 1.00

02:52:13.000 It was an exceptional show.

02:52:15.000 Yeah, I know it was a really good show, and I know a lot of people, Bourdain always raved about it.

02:52:19.000 I just never got around to watching it.

02:52:20.000 What he was mentioning was, yeah, the police in an episode decide, all right, this is how we're going to handle drugs, and they district They like de facto district, like a block where they allow it to happen and it works.

02:52:34.000 So they go like, okay, you can do that here.

02:52:37.000 So they controlled it and like you couldn't do it outside of the de facto district that the cops created.

02:52:44.000 And then it just like crime went down, things were, because they were like, we're not going to stop this.

02:52:48.000 People are going to get high.

02:52:50.000 Didn't New York City recently decriminalize prostitution? 1.00

02:52:54.000 I know they decriminalized gambling.

02:52:56.000 I don't know about...

02:52:57.000 Did they really?

02:52:57.000 They need the money, yeah.

02:52:58.000 Gambling?

02:52:58.000 They need the money.

02:52:59.000 But did they make it legal?

02:53:00.000 I think they made it legal.

02:53:02.000 Like what kind of gambling?

02:53:03.000 I think sports gambling.

02:53:06.000 I think they decriminalized gambling.

02:53:08.000 I like that.

02:53:09.000 And they taxed it.

02:53:10.000 Yeah, taxed it.

02:53:11.000 Why not?

02:53:11.000 Yeah.

02:53:12.000 I don't know about prostitution. 1.00

02:53:13.000 New York City sex workers rampant in open-air prostitution market amid lax enforcement.

02:53:19.000 I think it's not just lax enforcement.

02:53:21.000 Google New York City decriminalizes prostitution. 1.00

02:53:25.000 That girl has a very nice ass for a prostitute. 1.00

02:53:30.000 NYPD issues new guidance after repeal of walking while trans law. 1.00

02:53:34.000 What is that?

02:53:36.000 Walking while trans law. 0.91

02:53:38.000 NYPD officers are told to no longer arrest people who appear to be loitering for prostitution in response to repeal of New York State's walking while trans law.

02:53:47.000 Does that mean you're walking while you're transsexual? 1.00

02:53:49.000 I guess. 0.83

02:53:51.000 I thought they decriminalized prostitution.

02:53:54.000 I think that was like an order.

02:53:57.000 It says, effective immediately.

02:53:58.000 Officers may not arrest an individual for this charge.

02:54:01.000 All other crimes related to prostitution under Article 230 in New York all remain in effect.

02:54:06.000 Oh.

02:54:07.000 Well, you know what, man?

02:54:09.000 I think people should be able to do whatever they want to do. 0.87

02:54:11.000 I don't want anybody to be a prostitute, but... 1.00

02:54:13.000 I do. 0.99

02:54:16.000 Get that money, girl. 1.00

02:54:16.000 Why can't you if you want to? 1.00

02:54:18.000 Yeah.

02:54:19.000 It's a job. 0.99

02:54:20.000 Who was I talking to when we were talking about people who fuck guys for money? 1.00

02:54:25.000 Ari, right? 0.99

02:54:26.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:54:28.000 Ari was saying that there's girls that he knows that will have sex with...wasn't Ari? 1.00

02:54:34.000 No, it wasn't Ari. 0.94

02:54:35.000 It wasn't Ari.

02:54:37.000 It was some...I don't know. 0.98

02:54:38.000 Anyway, they were saying that they know people who fuck a certain number of guys that they're kind of friendly with. 0.98

02:54:45.000 For money. 0.99

02:54:46.000 And that's how they make a living.

02:54:48.000 And they only...look, if you can get a guy to pay you a thousand bucks or two thousand bucks every time you have sex, which is a lot of money, And you only have to do it a couple times a week. 0.79

02:54:56.000 Hell yeah.

02:54:57.000 Why is that so terrible?

02:54:59.000 If you get to choose...

02:55:00.000 I don't see why it's bad at all.

02:55:03.000 I can't think of one reason why it's bad at all.

02:55:05.000 I really can't. 1.00

02:55:05.000 You can fuck them for free? 1.00

02:55:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:55:07.000 Why can't you fuck them for money? 1.00

02:55:08.000 If you're an adult making that decision, you legalize prostitution. 1.00

02:55:11.000 You get rid of the trade, you get rid of the illegal trade, you get rid of...

02:55:16.000 I mean, it's going to happen anyway.

02:55:17.000 It's the oldest profession.

02:55:18.000 I mean, that's why I think ultimately beautiful women are still around because it's evolutionary theory. 1.00

02:55:24.000 If you think about it, smart chicks who are not that good looking, if there's a war or a famine, you can't do anything with like a sociology thesis, but you can sell pussy. 1.00

02:55:35.000 You can always sell pussy. 1.00

02:55:36.000 If there's a war or a famine, at least they can... 1.00

02:55:38.000 But maybe they can innovate.

02:55:39.000 Maybe they can figure out a way to cure the disease.

02:55:41.000 Maybe, but you could also... 1.00

02:55:42.000 Maybe they can develop weapons to fight off assholes. 1.00

02:55:44.000 That's true, but you could also sell your pussy to a warlord and survive. 1.00

02:55:49.000 Good point. 1.00

02:55:50.000 So maybe that's why pretty women still are preferred by the male... 1.00

02:55:55.000 I'm just talking as a scientist, which I am. 0.99

02:55:57.000 Well, think about how much horrible shit went down in Russia while Stalin was there and during World War II. And think about how many hot women come from Russia. 1.00

02:56:04.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:56:06.000 They survive by selling puts.

02:56:07.000 If there was like a chart of the percentage of hot women from Russia, it would be very high.

02:56:12.000 They're gorgeous. 0.99

02:56:13.000 Smoking, scary hot, ruin your whole life women. 1.00

02:56:16.000 Yeah. 0.51

02:56:17.000 You know, just to remind me, I hate when people go, you know, those communists, like, communism's never been tried. 0.99

02:56:21.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:56:22.000 What planet have you been living on? 1.00

02:56:24.000 It's been tried a few times.

02:56:26.000 Like, it hasn't been tried in its purest form.

02:56:28.000 It's like, nothing exists in its purest form.

02:56:30.000 No.

02:56:30.000 You can't even make a perfect circle.

02:56:32.000 The problem with communism is that they want, ultimately, you want equality of outcome.

02:56:40.000 And equality of outcome is very dangerous because there's not a quality of effort.

02:56:45.000 It's like you need incentives to get things done.

02:56:47.000 And the way you incentivize someone to get things done is like you can get more if you work harder.

02:56:52.000 You can do more.

02:56:52.000 You can have more things.

02:56:54.000 You can do better.

02:56:55.000 You can survive.

02:56:56.000 And if you're lazy, you're disincentivized.

02:56:59.000 You don't get anything if you're lazy.

02:57:01.000 If you don't contribute, you have to contribute.

02:57:04.000 The problem with communism, what communism that we're aware of is mostly communist dictatorships.

02:57:11.000 They force you into these occupations.

02:57:13.000 They tell you what you can and can't do.

02:57:14.000 What's weird about China is that it's kind of a hybrid. 0.99

02:57:17.000 Right?

02:57:18.000 It is.

02:57:19.000 They did that.

02:57:20.000 They opened up the market to kind of...

02:57:22.000 Yeah, it's a hybrid.

02:57:23.000 They changed everything.

02:57:24.000 Yeah.

02:57:24.000 They're doing well because they have some elements of capitalism in there.

02:57:27.000 It's also dangerous because it elevates the group over the individual.

02:57:31.000 And once you start doing that, then an individual just becomes a disposable person subject to the group.

02:57:38.000 Yeah.

02:57:38.000 When the group is really just a collection of individuals.

02:57:40.000 So when you do that leap of logic... 1.00

02:57:43.000 You're fucked. 1.00

02:57:44.000 The individual has no rights. 1.00

02:57:45.000 It's just this idea of the group or the nation or the entity.

02:57:50.000 And it discourages creativity.

02:57:52.000 Totally.

02:57:52.000 That's the problem.

02:57:53.000 It really discourages creativity.

02:57:55.000 And creativity is so important for a culture to innovate.

02:58:00.000 One of the things about America is America is arguably the freest country in the world, but also arguably the most influential worldwide in terms of culture.

02:58:11.000 Totally.

02:58:11.000 And you know what?

02:58:12.000 When it comes to music and fashion and stuff like that, you got to give a shout out to African Americans.

02:58:20.000 Most popular culture in the world.

02:58:23.000 For sure.

02:58:24.000 And the most influential in terms of cultural, like music, art, comedy.

02:58:28.000 Fashion.

02:58:29.000 Yeah.

02:58:30.000 I mean, it's like all the way to the E. It's gone all the way to Japan.

02:58:34.000 I mean, breakdancing in Japan.

02:58:35.000 I mean, hip-hop culture is like the most prevalent culture.

02:58:40.000 Like, black culture is everywhere.

02:58:42.000 Out of pressure creates diamonds. 0.99

02:58:44.000 It's crazy, dude.

02:58:45.000 Yeah, like an oppressed minority and enslaved population here in America, in the West, in the New World, influenced the entire world.

02:58:55.000 It's also wild if you think about how many of the most influential artists that are African Americans came out of oppressive environments, came out of bad neighborhoods, came out of gang-infested neighborhoods, almost all of the best hip-hop.

02:59:12.000 Yeah.

02:59:12.000 Right?

02:59:13.000 Yeah.

02:59:14.000 Projects.

02:59:15.000 Joe DiMaggio said, you know, rich people don't make the big leagues.

02:59:20.000 You know, you just can't be rich and make the big leagues.

02:59:22.000 I mean, it goes for sports, it goes for everything.

02:59:24.000 I mean, Bill Laimbeer in basketball is an exception.

02:59:28.000 He came from a wealthy family, but 99.9% of guys that make it to the NBA all come from poor backgrounds because it gives them that drive.

02:59:37.000 It's really prevalent fighting.

02:59:38.000 And that's why we need poverty. 0.81

02:59:41.000 You know, you can't have a war on poverty because then you have a war on greatness because that makes people great.

02:59:45.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:59:46.000 Yeah.

02:59:47.000 Take that, AOC! You can't say that, but it's kind of true. 1.00

02:59:51.000 It's kind of true.

02:59:51.000 Yeah.

02:59:51.000 I mean, were you born rich?

02:59:52.000 You weren't born rich?

02:59:53.000 No.

02:59:54.000 Yeah.

02:59:54.000 Look at what you became.

02:59:56.000 If you were born rich, you wouldn't be motivated to do any of this shit. 1.00

02:59:59.000 You'd be sitting around. 1.00

02:59:59.000 You'd be a DJ like the rest of them. 1.00

03:00:01.000 I wonder.

03:00:01.000 You'd just be a DJ with Michael Douglas' son doing drugs.

03:00:04.000 Ah!

03:00:07.000 Doesn't he notice all celebrity sons just become DJs or something?

03:00:10.000 Oh, it's so dangerous.

03:00:12.000 And drugs.

03:00:13.000 Tom Hanks' kid's a rapper.

03:00:14.000 I love that kid.

03:00:15.000 Is he?

03:00:16.000 Chad Hanks is one of my favorite.

03:00:17.000 I love him.

03:00:18.000 Really?

03:00:19.000 People look at him the wrong way.

03:00:21.000 I feel like in this era of being a celebrity online and creating your own thing, I think he's doing better than the other son who looks like Tom Hanks.

03:00:32.000 Cause this kid doesn't look like either, he doesn't look like Rita Wilson.

03:00:35.000 Does he look like the milkman?

03:00:36.000 He looks like he was created in a lab.

03:00:37.000 Yeah, he looks like everyone from the Mickey Mouse Club.

03:00:41.000 I believe the Mickey Mouse Club, those, you never know, like you ever met, who's Justin Timberlake's father?

03:00:46.000 We don't know.

03:00:47.000 Never seen him.

03:00:48.000 I don't even know if he has a dad. 1.00

03:00:48.000 Exactly, cause his fucking mother is Madonna, they took DNA from Madonna, they mixed it with the Bee Gees kids, all three of them, and they fucking made that kid. 1.00

03:00:58.000 They're all made. 1.00

03:01:00.000 Christina Aguilera? 1.00

03:01:01.000 A little fucking Hispanic girl from Pennsylvania can sing like Aretha Franklin? 1.00

03:01:05.000 How's that possible without eugenics? 1.00

03:01:08.000 Science.

03:01:09.000 Science.

03:01:10.000 Maybe.

03:01:10.000 Shaquille O'Neal didn't have a Pops.

03:01:13.000 Where's his dad?

03:01:13.000 I think he met his dad later in life.

03:01:14.000 That's the story.

03:01:15.000 Yeah.

03:01:16.000 You tell me a seven-foot guy that can move that fast.

03:01:19.000 LeBron James, where's his dad?

03:01:21.000 Nobody knows. 1.00

03:01:22.000 These people are fucking engineers. 1.00

03:01:24.000 I'm telling you. 1.00

03:01:24.000 I think they know. 1.00

03:01:25.000 They don't know.

03:01:26.000 LeBron James' dad, look at it.

03:01:27.000 He has no father.

03:01:29.000 He's just his mom.

03:01:30.000 I'm telling you, the government got involved to make these people.

03:01:33.000 Like, you know, the way the Russians used to make athletes? 0.99

03:01:35.000 We're fucking doing it. 0.99

03:01:36.000 Let me ask you this. 0.99

03:01:36.000 What do you think about this whole Britney Spears thing? 0.99

03:01:39.000 And the conservatorship.

03:01:41.000 Conservatorship.

03:01:42.000 Her dad gets to control what she spends money on.

03:01:46.000 I would do the same thing if I was her dad and I watched my daughter cheat on Justin Timberlake to marry Kevin Federline. 1.00

03:01:55.000 I'd lock that pussy up too and say, girl, you're making bad decisions and you're not capable of thinking on your own. 1.00

03:02:03.000 But why can't a grown adult just be crazy? 1.00

03:02:07.000 What if someone came along and said to Cat Williams, hey, you're just fighting 17-year-olds and you're doing coke and screaming at the audience.

03:02:14.000 You can't.

03:02:15.000 This is not good anymore.

03:02:17.000 We're gonna have to work this out.

03:02:20.000 You're gonna have to have a conservatorship.

03:02:22.000 We'd be like, what?

03:02:23.000 Let him go, yeah.

03:02:24.000 No, you can never have that. 0.99

03:02:26.000 You can never have an African-American man who's crazy, who gets controlled by his parents, who is an entertainer. 0.98

03:02:33.000 Well, Michael Jackson had a little bit of that. 0.99

03:02:36.000 But not when he was an adult, when he was a child, but that arguably fucked him up beyond repair.

03:02:41.000 He controlled some children, yeah. 0.91

03:02:43.000 Oh, for sure.

03:02:45.000 But the thing with Britney Spears is that she's a girl, she's a woman, and we're saying she's crazy, she can't handle things, so let her dad take care of things. 0.91

03:02:55.000 Can't do that anymore.

03:02:56.000 Could you imagine that if that was a male? 0.95

03:02:58.000 Crazy.

03:02:58.000 But imagine if you had a dad and your dad said, Giannis, you have to keep performing in Vegas and I get whatever I get, 150 a month.

03:03:07.000 I'm fist fighting him.

03:03:08.000 Yeah.

03:03:09.000 Yeah.

03:03:10.000 She's an adult now.

03:03:11.000 They got to revoke that.

03:03:13.000 I mean, it's crazy that it exists and that it still exists.

03:03:15.000 And like the whole family's in it too.

03:03:17.000 It's real nefarious.

03:03:18.000 I think the sister...

03:03:20.000 Like, is stealing her songs and performing them, like Gallagher's brother.

03:03:24.000 She's upset about- Yep, look that one up.

03:03:26.000 It's Britney too?

03:03:27.000 It's- Her name's Jamie too.

03:03:29.000 The father's name is Jamie, and the sister's name is Jamie.

03:03:32.000 Because it's some weird- I'm telling you, the government's involved, man.

03:03:35.000 I'm telling you, dude.

03:03:37.000 I'm telling you. 1.00

03:03:38.000 That Mickey Mouse Club, Ryan Gosling with the fucking Kid's Canadian, dude. 0.99

03:03:42.000 And he's in the Mickey Mouse Club, no father, we don't know about his family. 0.97

03:03:46.000 I'm telling you, they made them in labs.

03:03:50.000 And then they become megastars?

03:03:52.000 All of them?

03:03:52.000 Well, Disney's a factory for megastars.

03:03:54.000 Factory, dude, but you don't think the government and CIA's involved in that?

03:03:57.000 Project Mickey Mouse?

03:03:58.000 Maybe.

03:03:58.000 I'm telling you.

03:03:59.000 Maybe someone needs to write a book about that.

03:04:06.000 Think about Justin Timberlake.

03:04:07.000 He can dance.

03:04:10.000 Video of Britney looking annoyed at Jamie Lynn singing her song is going viral amid their drama.

03:04:17.000 And she even mentioned it.

03:04:19.000 She mentioned it like my sister singing my songs. 1.00

03:04:21.000 Did you see that meltdown she had on Instagram where she's cursed them all out and she's saying fucking and motherfucker. 1.00

03:04:27.000 Really? 1.00

03:04:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:04:28.000 So I quit.

03:04:30.000 I don't like that my sister showed up in an award show and performed my songs to remixes.

03:04:35.000 My so-called support system hurt me.

03:04:38.000 Yeah, man, the whole thing is weird.

03:04:39.000 I don't think it would happen if it wasn't a woman. 1.00

03:04:42.000 I don't think you would be able to control a man like that. 0.99

03:04:45.000 That's what's fucked about this. 0.99

03:04:47.000 We're saying that she's helpless, but she's a grown adult. 0.99

03:04:50.000 Isn't she like 36 years old or something? 1.00

03:04:52.000 Closer to 40, I think, yeah.

03:04:53.000 Why are they letting this happen?

03:04:55.000 I don't understand it.

03:04:56.000 Don't know.

03:04:56.000 Is it California?

03:04:57.000 Is it a California court that did this?

03:05:00.000 I don't know.

03:05:01.000 I don't know.

03:05:02.000 But I feel like, yeah, it's an odd thing.

03:05:04.000 Maybe the government knows she knows something and they're keeping...

03:05:08.000 I mean, dude, think about Justin Timberlake.

03:05:10.000 He can sing.

03:05:11.000 He can dance.

03:05:12.000 He's good looking.

03:05:12.000 He can act.

03:05:13.000 He's a scratch golfer.

03:05:15.000 Is he?

03:05:15.000 He's a scratch golfer.

03:05:17.000 Really?

03:05:18.000 How many dudes you know who can do that many things that great?

03:05:21.000 He's a great...

03:05:22.000 He can sing.

03:05:23.000 He's actually like a good artist.

03:05:25.000 He can play music.

03:05:26.000 He taught himself how to play instruments.

03:05:29.000 Wow.

03:05:29.000 He's handsome.

03:05:30.000 He's a good, funny actor.

03:05:32.000 He can do comedy. 1.00

03:05:33.000 Remember that, like, dick in a box shit? 1.00

03:05:34.000 Yes! 1.00

03:05:35.000 I mean, the dude has too much talent to be human.

03:05:38.000 He's a white Jamie Foxx.

03:05:39.000 Dude, he's a white Jamie Foxx.

03:05:41.000 Where's his father, Jamie Foxx?

03:05:44.000 Jamie Foxx might be the most talented guy in all of Hollywood.

03:05:47.000 His talent is hard to even fathom.

03:05:48.000 It's unfathomable.

03:05:49.000 He can sing.

03:05:50.000 He does amazingly accurate impressions. 0.92

03:05:54.000 Crazy.

03:05:54.000 He does stand-up comedy.

03:05:55.000 He can act.

03:05:57.000 He can do everything.

03:05:58.000 Yeah.

03:05:58.000 He can do everything.

03:05:59.000 He's gonna play Mike Tyson in a movie and he's getting jacked.

03:06:02.000 And he'll do it.

03:06:03.000 Have you seen it?

03:06:04.000 I haven't seen it. 0.81

03:06:04.000 He's jacked. 0.81

03:06:05.000 Right.

03:06:06.000 He's getting huge.

03:06:08.000 When he played Ray Charles, it was like incredible.

03:06:12.000 Yeah.

03:06:13.000 Incredible.

03:06:14.000 Amazing.

03:06:14.000 Yeah.

03:06:14.000 Well, his voice is insane.

03:06:16.000 Yeah, he's had hit songs.

03:06:17.000 Yes.

03:06:18.000 Hit songs.

03:06:19.000 Right.

03:06:19.000 Yeah.

03:06:19.000 Like he could literally do anything he wants.

03:06:21.000 Yeah.

03:06:22.000 There's some people who are just born with like an unnatural talent that only leads to one place, CIA. Dude, we're three hours in, believe it or not.

03:06:32.000 Right on.

03:06:32.000 Thanks for having me.

03:06:34.000 Thank you, my brother.

03:06:35.000 No, thank you.

03:06:36.000 Thank you.

03:06:36.000 Anytime, my friend.

03:06:37.000 I appreciate this.

03:06:37.000 Tell everybody all your different podcasts.

03:06:39.000 You got like 34 different podcasts you're doing simultaneously.

03:06:42.000 Just the important one is Long Days with Giannis Pappas.

03:06:45.000 That's my solo pod.

03:06:47.000 It's going real well.

03:06:48.000 Please check it out.

03:06:49.000 Long Days with Giannis Pappas.

03:06:50.000 Where's it available?

03:06:51.000 It's available on all podcast apps, and you can watch it on YouTube.

03:06:55.000 What was that?

03:06:56.000 YouTube, yeah.

03:06:57.000 It's on YouTube and all the podcast apps and the new sports podcast with Olivia is called Unleashed and you can find that wherever you listen to podcasts too, but long days.

03:07:09.000 Giannis Papas, ladies and gentlemen.

03:07:10.000 Good night, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 29, 2021

Joe Rogan Experience #1689 - Yannis Pappas

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