Jordan E. Cooper, co-creator of The M.O.P.E.K.I.S. and host of the hit comedy show, The Miss Pat Show, joins Jemele to talk about how she and her husband, Joe Rogan, fell in love with the show and how they became best friends. They also discuss how they met, how they got into comedy, and why they decided to start a podcast. They also talk about why they didn t want to do the pilot episode of the show because they didn't know if Joe would watch it, and what they did to get him to watch it. And they also discuss why they thought it was a good idea to do a pilot episode at all, even though it wasn't a hit. And they talk about what they would do if they did get Joe to watch the pilot and how it didn't work out. You won't want to miss this one. It's a good one. Thank you so much for being a part of the team and supporting the team. We really appreciate it and we look forward to working with you on the new season of The Miss PAT. Also, we hope you like the new episodes of the new show. We'll see you next week! Thanks for listening and God bless. XOXO. -Jemele and Joe XO -P.S.: Thank you for listening to this episode of Jemele and the podcast. We appreciate it. We love you, we really appreciate you. Thank you and appreciate you for being here. and we appreciate you! - Thank you, Joe, God bless you, God Blessings, Blessings and Blessings. Love ya. -Jamaal & P. xoxo, P.J. & Pat -Alyssa and P.M. & Alyssa - P.A. & JUICY P. E. & KELLY - M.JACOB xOJOY - SONGS: - JOE ROGAN - RYAN AND P. M. & S. BONUS EPISODES: P. R. & M. B. & BOBJO JAYE - AVAILABLE - THE M. OCHE CHEESE - BABY BOWL - JOSEPH M. S.
00:01:50.000It started with an M. M? I don't fucking know.
00:01:55.000We was texting, and when you started to text me, the jokes in the show, I was like, you don't know how much air went out of my titties that day, Joke.
00:02:14.000It was so hard with a comedy because to me comedy is so rehashed and I feel like Hollywood is so out of ideal.
00:02:21.000That's why we getting all these fucking reboots that even with the pilot we went through the hand and toe to make sure you haven't heard it.
00:05:44.000For you to be 26 and to create a show is pretty fucking amazing.
00:05:48.000It was a ride, Joe, because when Lee first brought this kid to me, and I'm honest, and I know Hollywood is full of shit, and it's so hard to get people in the industry not to sound like a talking fucking tech.
00:06:03.000Everybody said the same goddamn thing, and I was just, I have to break them down.
00:06:06.000Either you be honest with me, or I don't fuck with you.
00:06:08.000So when I met him, and Lee was like, oh, I got this kid.
00:07:19.000Now he's got all kind of interviews, but I sat him down and I said, they're going to take you to fancy dinners and try to blow your fucking mind.
00:07:27.000I said, if you listen to a real nigga like me, we can do this.
00:07:30.000I said, now I'm going to be honest with you.
00:07:32.000Lee is busting his ass to get this job for you.
00:07:35.000I said, but while Lee is busting his ass to get you this job, let me show you how to get this job.
00:08:07.000I mean, everything for me come from the knowledge that I got from streets, okay?
00:08:11.000You can never outsmart me because I'm fucked.
00:08:13.000You might can spell a word right, but motherfucker, I got Google and two daughters with a college degree, so I get your ass back on that, too.
00:08:20.000So I told him, I said, take your name off of it.
00:09:36.000But, like, what's funny, though, yo, is that, like, she, she, like, it was, it was something, I was talking about this yesterday, I was like, it takes a lot to earn Pat's trust in that sense, because she was literally, it was like she was entrusting me with her comedy and her story.
00:09:50.000And so, like, it was funny where, like, I would write a draft of something, and I would send it, I would send it over to her, and she would read it, she'd be like, nigga, why you got me cussing?
00:11:15.000When people get to be 46, and they've got all this stuff behind them, and then they're worried about offending, or they're worried about pissing off the network, or they're worried about getting on the wrong side of the executives.
00:11:25.000You gotta believe in your project, huh?
00:12:41.000If you get one of those shows and you let it breathe and grow and give it a couple of months and give it six episodes, give it ten episodes, give it a year, give it second season.
00:13:20.000And I think that's the thing that, why we ran into a lot of trouble even selling it initially or even getting it picked up originally, was that I think it was too real.
00:13:33.000Oh yeah, Joe, they was asking dumb, I'm not going to say dumb questions because when you're not familiar with a person's culture, they was asking, like, one of the kids' name is Janelle, and what did they ask you?
00:13:45.000Oh, they were like, the name was too ethnic.
00:17:32.000Yeah, what happened was, there was a play in town that I wanted to go see, and my parents wouldn't give me money to go see it, so I said I was going to make it myself.
00:17:39.000And I was snooping through my brother's bedroom one day, and I found, like, big booty car wash under his bed, and big titty palooza, and all this stuff.
00:17:46.000And that's what we was talking about at school, was porn.
00:17:48.000So I took his DVDs, and I was selling them at the bathroom for $5 a pop.
00:18:11.000It was like it was like they called it Crossroads, which was like you had to like it was like you had to go across town and And you had to wear a button-up shirt and tuck in your pants.
00:20:38.000There was a lot of sitcoms, a lot of opportunity to get shows.
00:20:41.000And, you know, and when you didn't have, like with me, I wasn't really familiar with Hollywood, but I did meet a friend who's the guy who actually found me, who listened to Maren and heard about my book coming out at the time, and then he listened to my episode you dropped, and they called me in to Imagine,
00:22:08.000That's what we tell the people at Fox.
00:22:09.000So they immediately put me in acting classes.
00:22:11.000So when we started, when me and him get together and we get to the process of getting ready to get it picked up, Joe, I didn't know what the fuck a table read was.
00:22:19.000I'm like, what the fuck is a table read?
00:22:21.000And he was like, I said, I gotta read out loud?
00:22:23.000I ain't did this shit in a long goddamn time.
00:22:25.000So I go on the internet and I Google table read, and I said, we gotta come up.
00:22:28.000I said, we gotta backdoor these motherfuckers.
00:22:29.000He's like, what are you talking about?
00:22:30.000I said, we gotta get somebody, and I gotta practice reading out loud.
00:22:33.000Because if they hear me read out loud today, they gonna shut this motherfucker down.
00:26:50.000It's only a week process to create these sketches that they do every Saturday.
00:26:54.000Now, if I couldn't read like that, and I feel like I had that kind of talent, I've been brushing up on my sheet early, so when they come, I'm here.
00:27:02.000Somebody should have just hooked them up.
00:27:04.000Somebody should have just, like, got them lessons.
00:29:04.000I told him almost every day, I said, they're not going to pick this shit up.
00:29:09.000I think what it was, it was so many Brian Grazer, Ron Howard, those powerful names connected to it.
00:29:16.000What probably took so long, and then, you know, they probably tested it again, and what was so crazy, it's over now, I can say, but my daughter, my daughter friend worked at a testing site.
00:29:27.000They sent it to Atlanta, and she called my daughter in secret.
00:29:31.000She said, I don't supposed to tell you this, but your mama pilot just tested off the fucking roof, and they tested in Alpharetta, Georgia.
00:29:38.000That's white as white can get in Atlanta.
00:29:40.000And I was like, and I called him and I was like, they tested fucking pilot.
00:29:44.000They told us Chicago, but it ended up in Atlanta.
00:29:47.000And I just kept telling him, I said, I always felt like it would find a home.
00:30:32.000And I think that there, I think there was also, it was like, because that hadn't happened before we did that pilot.
00:30:36.000Like nobody had like said, fucking motherfucker and all this stuff and talked about, literally our pilot is about a school shooting and somehow we made it funny.
00:35:21.000If somebody gave you an STD, they had to get a bus?
00:35:24.000Back in the day when you had an STD and they would knock on your door, one person would say, oh, I got an STD. They said, what's your partner?
00:38:20.000And it's basically like, for being within the community, it's like, oh, it's funny how, especially black people in those conversations, it feels like they separate.
00:38:30.000If you're gay and you're black, you can't be both.
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00:41:59.000I like to call sitcoms a Trojan horse because you get to talk about real shit, but we get to laugh on the web.
00:42:04.000What was so crazy, Joe, is like when we finally started writing, we spent almost two years before we got to this point, and all of a sudden this kid just wipe out this fucking phone and say, oh yeah, you said this, this, that.
00:42:18.000Everything he ever thought I said funny, this motherfucker had put it in his phone, and a lot of it made it in the show.
00:42:24.000And I'm like, you write down what I say?
00:42:26.000He was like, that's the funniest shit when you ain't even trying to be funny.
00:42:30.000Yeah, that's smart though, because you've got to capture those things and you forget them.
00:42:34.000Yeah, and he just had this whole list, the shit Ms. Pat say.
00:43:06.000And sitcoms for me, that's why I kept watching them, because that was the closest to theater I could get a lot of times, with that live audience, you know what I mean?
00:43:15.000Fast forward for Christmas was like box sets of I Love Lucy or the Golden Girls or Martin or Good Times.
00:43:21.000And I think that's why it made so much sense whenever we wrote the pilot.
00:43:26.000And they were like, how the hell you didn't go to school for writing TV? It was just like, I just studied.
00:46:45.000And the smart shit about shooting on film is, like, all the Norman Lear shows, if you watch, like, all those 70s shows, the quality is not good when you watch it visually because they shot on videotape.
00:46:56.000If you watch I Love Lucy, which was made, like, what, 25 years earlier, that shit is so...
00:47:01.000That looks like HD. It looks like it was shot, like, last week.
00:47:04.000And that's because he shot it on film.
00:47:06.000And so that was the, like, forethought.
00:47:09.000Desi Arnaz gets no credit for that because he was a Cuban, but, like, he created We did all of that.
00:49:16.000Can you imagine being in the store with the kids and they ask for something and you say no we ain't got no money and they just Google your network?
00:50:14.000I remember that day on the phone with her, because we had been talking about the episode since we pitched the show.
00:50:20.000And we finally had the script and we were working on it and getting notes back and she called me and she was like, Jordan, I can't do this.
00:53:53.000And I'm like, I said, I'm tired of telling this man I love him.
00:53:57.000Because, you know, when you take something so personal, he was taking personal stuff, personal conversations we had, personal, just, you know, because I tell him everything.
00:58:11.000And I think that they were saying the first two weeks really matter in streaming because...
00:58:17.000The first two weeks in streaming, that's how they know if they decide if they're going to pick something up because it depends on how many people watch it and the hours that they watch it.
00:59:30.000I remember Oprah got in trouble when OWN first started and she was like, please watch Oprah Winfrey Network, especially if you have a Nielsen box.
01:00:01.000And then they calculate based on the actual number of humans there are in this country and how many people really watch TV and they get an estimate.
01:00:09.000A rough estimate of the amount of people that are watching your show, but it's very rough, as opposed to streaming.
01:00:14.000Streaming, they know exactly how many people are watching your show.
01:01:35.000It's the perfect, it gives you a chance to see her stand up and she's basically giving you a prelude to what, it's kind of like what Shakespeare used to do.
01:01:44.000It's like, I'm telling you the story before you know the story, but I'm making you laugh while we do it.
01:02:17.000So I was A+. So I would block my seat off going back to Indiana because it was full of white people.
01:02:21.000And I wanted to have conversation about real life, race, abortion, women, just start a conversation.
01:02:27.000So I would block my seat off, usually for a white man, because those are the ones that once you got them sitting down and they can't go nowhere, you can ride their ass like a hard dick.
01:02:39.000And I wouldn't do anything like racist.
01:02:40.000I would just start a casual conversation and let them know, it's okay.
01:02:44.000I want to know your opinion on this, on race or whatever.
01:02:47.000And most times they would open up and talk to me.
01:02:49.000And when I gave him that idea, hey, we should have a conversation about this is what I do every week on fucking Southwest.
01:04:58.000But it was like, we was really scared.
01:05:00.000I was really scared to send Debbie this because, you know, Debbie is like, you know, Black, the black princess of, you know, of African-Americans.
01:08:12.000I was like, okay, it's y'all money, whatever you want to do.
01:08:15.000The beautiful thing is as the show becomes successful, and I believe it will become successful, you'll be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
01:08:21.000I would pray and hope that they would listen a little bit more.
01:12:05.000And I used to tell them, bitch, you can't out funny me.
01:12:08.000I think Jordan is right though, that if they're getting jobs, they're writing, you know, they have like a standard way of doing it, and it's probably getting them gigs, and they're used to...
01:12:19.000Right, so when you challenge that, they're like, what are you doing?
01:12:22.000Right, like, have you ever tried to watch, like, what is that show, Big Bang Theory?
01:13:43.000When you want to vent, you call that person and they'll tell you how to go by instead of saying, you know, motherfucker, I'll knock your goddamn head off.
01:14:55.000Because I felt like there was a lot of, like, I felt like a lot of my energy was spent, like, just hovering, almost, because I wanted to make sure that everything was just right.
01:15:05.000And I didn't want her to have to worry about it, because she already got to learn a script.
01:15:08.000So I don't want her to have to worry about, like, oh, the joke doesn't work, or, oh, this story doesn't make sense, or, oh, so it was a lot of, like, trying to, it was a lot of rewriting.
01:15:16.000Like, both of us, she would call me at, like, 5 o'clock in the morning.
01:17:08.000Because this is our project and nobody cares about it like we did.
01:17:12.000Well, no one's going to understand what you're trying to accomplish other than you.
01:17:15.000Especially if you get some person 32 years old who has been writing sitcoms for the last two years and they think they know what they're doing and they sit down with you and they're like, who is this fucking tornado of a woman?
01:19:38.000And for you to get out of the gate with a show like this, I mean, this is amazing.
01:19:41.000It's an amazing opportunity for you, but it's also perfect for you because he's fresh and he's not fucked up by this goofy machine that makes terrible TV shows.
01:19:53.000Because there is a machine and they make a lot of money off those terrible shows.
01:19:57.000They want to keep making those stupid fucking shows.
01:20:59.000But then it's like, when you get on the phone with like executives or like white people or like rich people, it's like, if you don't sit your ass down, I'm gonna be like, hello?
01:21:14.000And I feel like that's why I kept bringing up Richard Pryor and Red Fox and Flip Wilson and all these comedians, LaWanda Page, who couldn't be themselves on these shows.
01:21:43.000And for people that don't understand how hard that is to do, There's one thing for a person to be themselves.
01:21:51.000There's another thing for someone to write out that person and write that person interacting with a fake husband and fake children and a fake kitchen and try to put it together and make it seem like it's really you really having fun with your family.
01:22:25.000I mean, if you go back and think about all the different shows where a comedian starred in that show and played some goofy caricature of themselves, that's what most of them are.
01:26:35.000The reason why they use antibiotics with cows, though, is because they're feeding them things that the cows are not supposed to eat and they develop all these infections because cows are not supposed to be eating corn.
01:26:44.000When you buy a steak and it's all that marbling, what that is is a sick animal.
01:28:26.000I don't know if you know this, but chickens are like little dinosaurs.
01:28:28.000I used to have chickens, but they got all killed by coyotes when I lived in L.A. But if you put like a baby mouse in a room with chickens, they will swarm on it faster than a cat.
01:33:46.000I said, it's a fucking squirrel downstairs.
01:33:47.000It's a squirrel downstairs, and we ain't been able to eat all day because we scared of the squirrel.
01:33:51.000My husband went in that living room, moved that sofa, slapped the shit out of that squirrel, and opened the back door and kicked that motherfucker so hard, it went, it just, it caught onto the tree.
01:34:06.000Miles, I say, the motherfucker, you going to jail for animal abuse.
01:37:14.000I only rode three rides, but when I tell you, I kind of felt embarrassed a little bit because they take you through that side door and you pop out and everybody's like, is that an athlete?
01:53:42.000Asian women who consume soy regularly are less likely to report hot flashes because soy actually elevates your estrogen and other menopausal symptoms than women in other parts of the world.
01:53:54.000One reason might be related to the estrogen-like compounds in soy.
01:53:57.000However, studies have generally found little or no benefit with plant estrogens.
01:55:33.000I'm 49. When it get cold and that air tries to get between your legs, that vagina hair blocks the hair and it keeps the clit from freezing?
01:55:41.000Well, if you live in a cold climate, yes.
01:55:44.000Yeah, so I live in Indiana, so you can't just walk around with no bald head vagina.
02:00:44.000You can't beat the Axis if you get VD. Oh wow, so that is World War II. Yeah, the first thing it said on Wikipedia is 1494. It was the first VV? Yeah, a syphilis outbreak in Europe.
02:00:56.000Oh, I can give you guys some information.
02:04:45.000I looked up why they're still wearing it.
02:04:47.000This is the reason they say on How Stuff Works.
02:04:50.000Many uniforms, wigs are an emblem of anonymity, an attempt to distance the wear from personal involvement and a way to visually draw on the supremacy of law, says Newton.
02:05:02.000Wigs are so much a part of British criminal courts that if a banister does not wear a wig, it is seen as an insult to the court.
02:05:57.000There's a lot of images, like paintings of royal families from France and all over Europe where you see the eyes a little too close together, look a little wacky.
02:06:06.000Because they all fucked each other's cousins.
02:06:08.000Because you had to only use royal blood, right?
02:09:25.000Even, like, when people talk about Greece, like Greece was a democracy, sure, for a little while, then it eventually became a dictatorship.
02:09:31.000And even when it was a democracy, they had slaves, they killed each other for, you know, random fucking reasons.
02:09:40.000The Romans did the same shit and that eventually became a dictatorship as well, like every fucking civilization.
02:09:46.000Up until the United States in 1776 had devolved into a dictatorship.
02:09:51.000That's why people are so worried about this country and the direction it's going.
02:09:54.000Because they're like, look, this could become a dictatorship too.
02:11:35.000Sort of, for like a little while, and then the governor got on TV and made some actual valid points that you should be able to take your own risks and we should protect the older people, the people that are the most at risk, and vaccinate them as quickly as we can, and before that, protect them from exposure and everybody else.
02:11:52.000Just do whatever the fuck you want to do.
02:12:42.000There's all these videos on YouTube of people hunting iguanas and eating them, cooking them and eating them.
02:12:47.000Oh my god, I was like, I can deal with roaches, but I can't deal with no fucking iguanas.
02:12:53.000Worse than this, when it gets cold out, they freeze, because they're a tropical animal, and sometimes Florida gets 30 degrees, so when it gets 30 degrees, they die.
02:13:01.000So they're hanging on trees, they die, and they knock people out, because they fall, frozen, and land on people's heads.
02:13:07.000So these old people are walking around Florida, and a fucking falling iguana cracks them on the top of the head.
02:13:28.000Before COVID. And the iguanas, just like the reptiles that they have, all the shit that's in the swamps, like all the pythons and everything, it's all just people's pets.
02:13:49.000There's like almost no mammals in the Everglades.
02:13:51.000They killed all the raccoons, all the marsh hares, all the deer.
02:13:55.000They did a survey recently of the Everglades where they were trying to find all these various mammals and they said that they've been decimated down by a minimum of 90%.
02:17:31.000But apparently, everybody that I know that has actually hunted alligators, I know a lot of dudes that hunt alligators, And when you eat it, if you eat it fresh, it is delicious.
02:17:40.000Alligators apparently taste very good.
02:17:42.000Yeah, there's all videos on YouTube on how to butcher alligators, and they show them, like, taking it apart and what the best cuts of meat are.
02:17:50.000Actually, we had alligator at the Grove one time.
02:23:15.000I think that was in Montana as well pretty recently because he had found a dead moose that this bear had killed.
02:23:23.000And he was trying to get close to where the moose was to take photos of the bear.
02:23:29.000And then the bear thought he was trying to steal the moose and killed him.
02:23:33.000So now both of them are buried together and now he's protecting both of them so he's gonna eat them later.
02:23:37.000Well this guy was like famous for wildlife photography unfortunately so he'd take these like really close-up pictures of bears like and he just got he just rolled the dice too many times because they're just you know they're a 2,000 pound wild dog that's what it's like.
02:24:22.000In Alaska, sometimes bears will run off from people because they've had experiences with people or they've seen people shoot guns and kill bears near them.
02:24:32.000But everywhere else where people don't hunt humans, which is most of the United States, the only place in the United States you can hunt grizzly bears is in Alaska.
02:24:40.000But those are the people that have the most experience with them because they're dealing with them all the time.
02:25:14.000Because the females, they have to protect their kids from the males.
02:25:18.000Because the males, they actively target babies.
02:25:20.000Like when they come out of the womb or the den, rather, like when they hibernate all winter, One of the first things they try to do is find babies.
02:27:11.000I guess that's why I don't like it, Joe.
02:27:14.000Well, some people do it that don't have money because they just want the food, and the best way to get wild food is to, you know, you've got to hunt.
02:27:21.000And if you're going to hunt, you've got to go where the animals are, and they're usually not where the people are, so you've got to get in there pretty far.
02:28:48.000And he would go there and take pictures with these men and have them dressed up weird, like dressed up like Roman soldiers and take pictures with them and shit.
02:28:56.000And it was like, he was doing weird freak shit, like measuring their dicks and measuring their balls and taking, like literally said, this one had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg.
02:29:11.000Like he was probably, like probably had some normal human disease for Europeans and gave it to these people and a few people died and they chased him off the island.
02:29:20.000So these people, when this guy went back with the Bible, one of the reasons why they're so hostile is probably they have terrible stories of being visited in the past by people who took pictures of their dicks and gave them diseases.
02:29:32.000Can you imagine if people did that to all colonizers?
02:29:35.000Yeah, so that's the guy that's commander Maurice Vidal Portman Yeah, and so he had did and there was quite a few different islands that he did this to yeah, that's the Andamanese so he was with these people and so that those occasionally people would go and fuck with these indigenous people and if they hadn't Maybe someone could go there and bring them food and bring them medicine and treat them respectfully today and maybe help them in
02:30:21.000I don't know what food they're eating, but they're getting it from the ocean or they're getting it from whatever animals live on that island with them.
02:30:28.000But this is the thing about colonization.
02:30:31.000That's how fire and medicine and everything that we have is normal to us.
02:30:39.000The question is, like, should you give them...
02:30:43.000First of all, colonizing them, like, taking over their land...
02:30:47.000Yeah, clearly that's fucked up, and that shouldn't happen.
02:30:50.000But should someone allow them to move off the island and come to civilization?
02:30:56.000Like, if you could speak their language, and you could say, hey, man...
02:31:00.000We have electricity, we have air conditioning, refrigerators, restaurants.
02:31:04.000Can you imagine taking someone from an island where they've been hunting turtles their whole life or whatever the fuck they eat, and then bringing them to a nice restaurant, freaking them out?
02:31:12.000I don't know what the answer to that is.
02:31:14.000I don't know if you should or shouldn't do that.
02:31:17.000I think you should mind your fucking business.
02:31:19.000Because if they wanted to get off that island...
02:31:27.000You're on an island that they don't have metal.
02:31:31.000Well, I'm saying if they wanted to get on that island, so many people have tried, you know, like the ones who tried to visit, they'd be like, hey, we're waiting on you.
02:31:37.000We're going to kill you and take your boat and get the fuck up out of here.
02:31:39.000But instead, they kill you dragging the wood and skinning you.
02:31:42.000Well, they've killed people before that fucked up besides that guy.
02:31:45.000There was a ship that shipwrecked close to the shore, and they killed those guys.
02:31:51.000And then they think they might have salvaged some metal from that ship because they think they've seen them with like makeshift knives they've created from some of the metal from the ship.
02:32:04.000Just have somebody watching them all the time?
02:32:06.000They just have rules where you can't go there.
02:32:09.000I think whether it's India or whatever country is in control of that island, they just have some very strict laws about interacting with them.
02:32:18.000But it is fascinating because these people essentially lived like people lived 60,000 years ago.
02:34:35.000Listen, if a shark kills one of my friends and I know where that shark is, like if it's got a beacon or something, I'm going to go kill that fucking shark 100%.
02:39:07.000But then when he got off of it, he came alive.
02:39:10.000I don't know why he put the stocking cap on his head.
02:39:13.000But I guarantee you, you're going to have Yeezy across the top, and you're going to see a whole bunch of people with ski masks on, and there's going to be a lot of niggas in jail.
02:39:22.000Well, in this day and age where everybody has to wear a mask, that's the solution in his mind.
02:46:52.000Motherfucker, you can't change the path.
02:46:53.000I said, I don't give a fuck if somebody stuck their thumb up your ass.
02:46:56.000If he didn't get past the knuckle, he cheated himself.
02:47:01.000But that's what I say on stage, and I want people to, my whole thing is I just want people to learn to take whatever is causing you pain and laugh.
02:47:14.000I could be dwelling over, I grew up with a fucked up mama, the way I grew up and all the stuff that happened to me, but I choose to laugh at it.