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00:04:52.0002008 I put a three, so 2008 I put out a record.
00:04:54.000Do you like having, like, that kind of a space in between records where you really get to work on your shit and really get to, like, put it in a form you like?
00:06:41.000Until it's just you and the silence and the keyboard and then you get into the real trance.
00:06:46.000Well that's also why I keep a separate area like you know I'm talking about like a good hour away from the house.
00:06:51.000I got a drive to go to the studio and I usually spend a day or two there and you know just lock my mind out of everything and try and you know it's there's no windows so it could be two in the morning and you know Are you always writing shit down too?
00:07:06.000Like if you're like in a restaurant or something, you have an idea for something, do you write it down or do you just fuck with it in your head?
00:07:10.000I've honestly never written an idea down ever.
00:11:07.000Like, you hit it with the feeling of being that girl in that situation, and it was realistic and, you know, like alive, three-dimensional.
00:11:18.000Yeah, I mean, trust me, there's times I wish I could do that, like, take that and write it on a piece of paper in a way that I thought was beautiful and artistic, because I'd love to write a movie.
00:11:46.000I mean, I've learned along the way how to become a musician and how to produce a record.
00:11:51.000but I'm saying it started with me just kind of being like, I'm just going to rap or whatever it was I was going to do, you know, and then pick up the guitar.
00:11:59.000I was just, I'm just going to play this little thing I wrote.
00:12:02.000That's kind of brilliant, though, in a way, because it's so uninfluenced and influenced at the same time.
00:12:09.000You know, instead of being influenced by, like, classical instruction and, you know, structure and all that stuff, you're influenced by just what you enjoy and imitating that, you know, and then expressing it in your own way.
00:12:34.000Because I always bring in cats to help produce records.
00:12:37.000I think, even though I could probably accomplish the deed on my own, you need people to challenge you in the course of creating something just to make it that much better.
00:12:46.000Just to collaborate and bounce shit back and forth to somebody you respect.
00:12:49.000Or just people that you even trust enough that would say, that sucks.
00:12:52.000Even if it's just somebody that's that, you're my guy to make sure if something sucks, you're the voice.
00:13:15.000I steal everything I can from all of them.
00:13:17.000I'm always the worst musician in the room in my mind.
00:13:22.000Even though I'll get up and play with anybody and it'll work, I still have this thing in the back of my mind that's like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
00:13:32.000It's like, man, okay, I'm just kind of sneaking on stage.
00:13:59.000You're still in a chord, watching the videos real close, and VHS pausing them, and the thing's shaking, and you're trying to see where his fingers are on the thing.
00:14:11.000Did you read a book on it or anything?
00:14:14.000I took a few guitar lessons when I was real young, maybe six or eight guitar lessons, and then kind of lost interest in it, because hip-hop kind of stole my mind away.
00:14:26.000And then later on during the House of Pain days, there's actually a bunch of stuff on House of Pain records that are just little things that I played that we looped up and put, you know, like little country riff for that shit kicker song.
00:14:39.000Every time I go to town, people start kicking my dog around.
00:14:42.000There's a guitar piece under there that I played.
00:14:45.000So there's little bits of it, but it's like after...
00:14:49.000I left House of Pain, I had a guitar around me all the time, and I just started really actually saying, let me see what I can do with this thing.
00:14:56.000And the cat who helped me produce Whitey Ford Sings the Blues, or I should say produced the record with me, Dante Ross, we were just working on hip-hop music.
00:15:07.000And I was just kind of crashing to his place and playing guitar all the time.
00:16:08.000I'm not this dude who's like, I know what parts and what, but I'll be like, I know what sound should go right there because I can hear it.
00:16:15.000And then you add that sound and it will sub-harmonically create this other ghost sound in there that you're like, oh, that's a violin I can hear.
00:16:36.000I'm still terrified of learning a musical instrument, man.
00:16:40.000Do you find technology has helped you a lot?
00:16:43.000Not GarageBand, but programming, the programs nowadays.
00:16:47.000I have to keep an engineer around all the time on duty and ready to go, because I'm...
00:16:54.000So I can get on the laptop and go on YouTube and find some stupid videos that'll make me laugh.
00:17:01.000I can get on the Facebook and the Twitter and whatnot.
00:17:06.000I could probably get two tracks recorded at the studio on my own before I just turned in for the day.
00:17:13.000That would take me probably about six hours, which would take him about eight minutes.
00:17:18.000The technology has helped By making it easier to have your own studio, you know what I mean?
00:17:25.000Instead of spending a million dollars on a studio, I spend $40,000, $50,000 and I have a really beautiful studio, you know what I mean?
00:17:32.000But I'm still with just, it's all about, 90% of what I do is, you know, either at my studio or late at night in a room by myself with the acoustic guitar, banging on it, trying to think of something funny or witty or What you really nailed was this kind of bluesy, smooth, hip-hoppy sound that nobody had ever done before, like what it's like.
00:18:03.000I just kind of walked a line between Brad from Sublime and Wyclef Jean.
00:18:10.000I saw what Wyclef started doing with all his R&B and island-influenced music, mixing that with hip-hop.
00:18:19.000I was just kind of starting to record this guitar stuff, the What It's Like song, and I was a big fan of Sublime and how he always injected these little hip-hop phrases into lyrics and things.
00:18:29.000I knew he had to be, never really knew the dude, but knew he had to be kind of a b-boy to a certain degree and those kind of things.
00:18:37.000That's kind of how we saw that it would all work when we were looking at the record, me and my friend Dante.
00:18:42.000My label thought Whitey Ford Sings the Blues was a horrible idea.
00:19:40.000So you drive home tonight, you pop that record in, and by the time you get home, if I don't see a text from you, like, that's a badass record.
00:21:34.000Nah, see, because what happened to me was I woke up in the hospital and had emergency heart surgery like 98. So it was like, I was like, oh, I'm done smoking.
00:21:44.000I didn't even, I mean, like, I still smoke some weed now and then, but like, you know, even for like three years, two years after that, no, about two years after the surgery, I didn't, I was like on some, hell no, I'm alive.
00:21:55.000I'm trying to, but I could never sleep because What happened was I went to bed.
00:23:10.000And the next thing you know, you're smoking weed.
00:23:12.000It's lucky you had somebody next to you, though, because you just went to sleep.
00:23:16.000What if you didn't have somebody next to you?
00:23:18.000Well, apparently there's more to it than that.
00:23:19.000During the day, the guys that were making the record with me, we had the studio in my house.
00:23:24.000I had a house up in Mount Olympus in Laurel Canyon, and I just built the studio up in there to record the record, and Everybody was living in the house.
00:23:32.000And apparently just all day, I just didn't feel well.
00:24:01.000Irish luck that the best heart surgeon in the world, Dr. William Tranto, who's chief of heart surgery over there, I think maybe even of all surgeries, saw my case and told somebody else, you can't do that, I have to do that.
00:24:15.000What happened to me is the same thing that killed John Ritter in like 30 minutes.
00:25:29.000That's why I love watching your Twitter, dude, because there'll always be some crazy tweet, like some fan will tweet you like, yo, aliens dropped off the cure for cancer at, you know, whatever it is.
00:25:54.000I mean, imagine trying to explain that to someone 200 years ago.
00:25:56.000We're going to cut this dude open and we're going to stick some shit inside there where his shit's broken and it's going to be made out of a metal.
00:27:13.000The way I try to explain it to people is like most people Unless you're really, you know, highly intelligent and enlightened, which is not what I'm saying I am when I'm about to say what I'm about to say.
00:27:24.000I'm just saying some cats just reach death at this point where they're just ready for it and they're ready to cope, you know what I mean?
00:27:32.000But most of us probably see death, you know, coming at us.
00:27:34.000And, you know, I look at it like a roller coaster, like, you know, going on this roller coaster, you told us the scariest roller coaster of all time and you're waiting to go on it.
00:27:43.000And probably the whole time you're waiting to go on that motherfucker, it's probably really scary.
00:27:47.000Then you get on it and you ride it once and it's probably really scary.
00:27:50.000But then, you know, if you get off it and get right back in line, you know, the wait in line isn't so scary.
00:27:58.000And then you get back on the ride again.
00:28:00.000It's like, that's what I compare death to.
00:28:02.000It's like, I've gone through all the terrifying parts of death thinking it was upon me.
00:28:18.000I vaguely remember, like, people talk about a flash of your life flashing before your eyes, but to me it was more of just the some realization of, wow, man, that whole...
00:29:02.000It really is a trip that it's facing everyone, but no one wants to bring it up.
00:29:08.000I can't testify either to any lights at the end of any tunnels, but I do also remember hearing, the only way I can describe it is hearing a very familiar voice.
00:29:21.000I never really knew any of my grandfather's, but it seemed like a grandfather's type voice.
00:29:31.000But that didn't go along with a light or a vision or a figure.
00:29:35.000All I remember, other than this realization about how short my life was, And my life could have been 90 years and that realization would have been exactly the same, you know what I mean?
00:29:48.000But then this kind of blackness and this voice being like, nah, it ain't time or something of that nature.
00:29:55.000I can't even say it was words as much as just something communicating that feeling to me.
00:30:02.000It's a real trip to think the idea that there is a time for you and there is a place for you and there's a thing that you should be doing.
00:30:08.000A lot of people want to think that that's grandiose to think like that.
00:30:38.000I don't get in no chamber, but I get in my pool often late at night with the lights off and just lay there with it over my ears in silence for a couple...
00:32:56.000You have to get it manufactured and built.
00:32:58.000There's this super fucking jacuzzi system with this incredible filtration system to make sure that no microbes can get in there and fuck with your skin.
00:33:06.000And then on top of that, you have to make sure the water stays exactly the same temperature.
00:34:26.000Yeah, you don't want to smell that while you're in there trying to achieve enlightenment.
00:34:30.000Smelling your own piss, going, what the fuck is wrong with me?
00:34:33.000Sitting there pressing on myself in an isolation tank.
00:34:37.000Have you ever seen somebody that had a pool that was so badass like they had a lazy river around it?
00:34:41.000Can you imagine how badass would that be if you just had a lazy river around like a huge pool?
00:34:45.000Yeah, I knew this dude who had this giant pool and he had some crazy fucking slide system built into it like water slides and everything built into the side of his hill.
00:34:55.000Yeah, but just like a floaty thing where it just goes around and around.
00:34:58.000So you can just sit in a little raft and just go in circles.
00:37:22.000It would probably just be a virus of some kind that we're talking about.
00:37:26.000Well, it sounds stupid, but there's way crazier parasites that exist in the world.
00:37:30.000You know, every single human being is essentially a symbiote.
00:37:33.000Every person has a conglomeration of all sorts of different organisms living inside their body.
00:37:38.000And without those, you can't even be alive.
00:37:41.000And when you get a parasite, like when a parasite fucks up a body, what that is is a failed symbiote.
00:37:47.000It's like it's trying to have a symbiotic relationship with the organism, but it's failing, so it's sucking out too many resources, so it becomes a parasite.
00:37:55.000It's not contributing to the overall system.
00:37:57.000It is possible that they could come up with something that would hijack your shit so bad that you would be like one of those 28 days later motherfucker.
00:40:35.000One of the things that hits everybody, like when the swine flu came out, or the bird flu, or anything that comes out, is like, this might be the one we're all scared of.
00:40:42.000Because we all know that it's possible.
00:41:10.000I mean, like, I look at it like the cats who, like, you know, if you want to even take the 9-11, there's cats that'll be like, there's no way we did this.
00:41:16.000I was like, well, there's proof that the very least we knew something was supposed to happen just like that.
00:41:38.000All the horror and all this, I love it.
00:41:40.000I love reading about it and learning about it and giving it just enough consideration to be like, it could be true.
00:41:47.000I'm not living by it, but I'm watching to be like, okay, if some crazy scenario breaks out in the world where people just can't breathe anymore, there might be something to these stories.
00:42:00.000Yeah, you would have to think of why would they be doing it.
00:43:30.000I don't even know what you're talking about.
00:43:31.000Well, in the Midwest, or I guess in the suburbs, not in Los Angeles, they used to have these green boxes that were like energy plants or something like that.
00:44:21.000They would test us out burgers, and I would talk to my cousins that live in a different state, and they're like, we don't have that kind of weird burger at McDonald's.
00:45:10.000Another thing that happened to him, he was living in an apartment, and there was a duct overhead, like a heating duct, where the hot air would come through.
00:47:32.000Just think of what you must be feeling when you're above one of those things and you know that just touching it, just reaching out and touching it, you just essentially explode.
00:50:10.000We were talking about how that's where the mutations start.
00:50:14.000Where the X-Men begin is on them lines right there.
00:50:16.000One time, when I used to do Fear Factor, I would eat pot candies or something before the show just to kind of keep me in a chill but happy and fun mood all day.
00:50:27.000Sometimes you're sitting around all day and it's boring.
00:50:29.000And if you don't got a buzz, it doesn't feel as good.
00:50:33.000But one of the days I showed up, every now and then when something would freak me out, I would show up at work and I'd be a little baked, and they'd tell me what we're going to do.
00:50:39.000And one of the things they told me is we're going to have these people ride bulls.
00:50:43.000And I was like, oh, this is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea.
00:50:46.000Like, when you're high and they're telling you you're going to ride a bull, you're like, oh, no, sir.
00:50:50.000No, no, I'm not getting on that thing.
00:50:57.000The only time when we ever did that show where I felt like we were totally rolling the dice, hoping nobody got hurt, that was the only time, was we made them ride bulls.
00:51:05.000Because, like, you can't protect them from that fucking animal.
00:51:09.000You can only, you know, you can only say so much.
00:52:04.000A lot of them, they do it just, you know, there's people that do it and they think that they're going to be able to eventually get some sort of a career in reality TV. That's even more funny to me.
00:53:50.000Every time you're seeing her at home, she's just sitting in front of the TV watching Kim Kardashian and her sister talk with this mindless glaze in her eye.
00:53:58.000You're like, holy fuck, that is America, man.
00:54:01.000Those people are responsible for that fucking signal that they're putting out there, man.
00:54:05.000If anybody's turning people into zombies...
00:54:08.000But this whole movie, throughout the whole movie, this crazy bitch, Charlize Theron is obsessed with her high school boyfriend, is just watching the Kardashians on TV. It's a good movie, man.
00:54:18.000It's a really, like, the ending's kind of weird.
00:54:19.000Is it, like, in the movie theaters movie?
00:55:29.000Like, out of nowhere, you'll find our friend Brody Stevens.
00:55:32.000He's friends with Zack, so every time Zack does a movie or does anything, Zack throws him in as, like, these little roles and stuff, and every role, it's almost playing, like, where's Waldo for Brody Stevens?
01:01:13.000If I tell you that, you won't buy my book.
01:01:16.000Like I said, that's going to be up to the investigators to decide.
01:01:21.000The point you're making is that it's because of information in the book, information that you're bringing to them, that they would be reopening this investigation.
01:01:29.000Is it your charge that in fact Robert Wagner...
01:01:34.000He essentially tried to make this a low-profile investigation, did not do everything he could to try to find her once she went missing after their argument?
01:01:45.000Yes, it was to be kept a low-profile investigation.
01:01:50.000So you're saying that Wagner did not do everything he should have done to look for her after she went missing?
01:03:26.000Sometimes he says some real outrageous shit, right?
01:03:29.000And he gets under people's feathers, but, like, he'll say something about, like, when Kim Jong-il died or something, and, like, I love him because he just retweets every stupid, hateful thing that gets sent to him.
01:03:41.000But it's like these people are really saying, like, how could you say something like that?
01:03:46.000Don't you realize you're following a comedian?
01:03:48.000And a real smart-ass, sarcastic one at that?
01:03:54.000I was like, it just blows my mind how literal people are.
01:03:57.000Well, one of the things that was catching news was that he was accusing Will Ferrell of stealing the movie Anchorman from him and talking about the really bad, bad drugs that Will was doing.
01:04:51.000It's hard for us to see each other unless we're like...
01:04:53.000If I just happen to be in a town where someone's doing a set, I'll stop in and watch them do a full set, or if I catch a special...
01:05:00.000But other than that, you know, I'm in one town, they're in another.
01:05:02.000It's hard to see him, so I did a tough crowd once, and it was like one of the first times I got to see Colin do like a long set, and he did it in front of all of his fans, you know, because they're all...
01:06:34.000One mushroom trip where I just sat and looked at the whole progression of the human race and that it was some sort of a crazy fight between overpopulation of stupid people and like packets of really intelligent people figuring out matter itself to the point of You know, total, complete complexity where they blow up the whole universe and we restart all over again.
01:06:54.000But that all came from a mushroom trip.
01:06:56.000Then I started thinking about how ridiculous it was that I put all my faith, my food, the warmth and the cold of my family, all in the hands of things that I totally don't understand.
01:08:09.000They just never get tested through their life.
01:08:11.000They coast through with a boring but easy job, and they go to sleep, and they get up, and they do it all over again, and the shit never hits the fan.
01:09:36.000Again, one of those things that I put up to, it's like, I can't not believe in aliens.
01:09:42.000I can't sit here and tell you, I know there's aliens and I've seen them.
01:09:45.000But it's like, alright, every one of those lights up there is a sun.
01:09:51.000Odds are there's got to be another branch of intelligence.
01:09:57.000It just seems ridiculous to think that there wouldn't be.
01:10:00.000It seems like we've already figured out that things are recreated all over the galaxies, like gas giants, rocky planets, planets in the Goldilocks zone, planets with water, planets without water.
01:10:10.000We can apparently read their atmosphere somehow or another.
01:10:39.000You've got to be hard to think about some of this stuff.
01:10:41.000You know, it's funny, but all we do by ridiculing any of that shit is we're just trying to control reality.
01:10:49.000Even the ridiculous part that we understand as is, the ridiculous part of us being a part of a galaxy, and that galaxy is a part of the universe, the universe being one part of one universe, and there's an infinite amount of universes, like just all these nutty, nutty, that we know to be true, like wrapping our heads around infinity and the ideas.
01:11:17.000I got no room for your crazy alien talk.
01:11:19.000It's almost like the reality that we're absorbing as it is is so baffling and so fucking crazy that we're almost unwilling to look at anything that's more confusing.
01:11:31.000Not to mention that then the powers that be have also mixed this magical thing called religion into the whole thing.
01:11:39.000If a ship full of aliens actually came and landed in full view of everybody, that fucks up a lot of people's, like, belief systems.
01:11:48.000It would be interesting, like, who would, like, jockey first to try to, like, get cool with the aliens, like the Catholic Church, and the aliens have made peace, and, you know.
01:11:55.000You know, next thing you know, it's Jesus was an alien.
01:12:11.000Could you imagine if you were from another planet and you had some super dope technology and you want to come out and you knew the history of the religions.
01:12:17.000Okay, what's the number one religion most popular?
01:12:23.000Then we're going to come down with one guy that has both of those religions in his history and he's going to do some fucking magic and he's going to take over the planet.
01:12:36.000Can you imagine just landing a helicopter a thousand years ago, just going back and landing a fucking helicopter and seeing people freak out and run for cover?
01:12:44.000What kind of a world are we going to be living in in just another decade, just another 20 years, just another 50 years?
01:12:51.000In a thousand years, you could have just broke out a flashlight and got that effect.
01:15:14.000I came into music, actually, I was a graffiti writer, like, with a bunch of cats, and some of them started making some music for fun, and I kind of followed suit, and it just became, you know, something that, you know, somebody within that group knew Ice-T, and that's how that whole thing took off.
01:16:33.000And a lot of our listeners who are artists will sell posters on this website.
01:16:38.000And lately, I've been just buying up so much posters, like original prints, because it's like 1 out of 20. We're only printing out 20 pieces of this.
01:16:48.000And so for 15 bucks, I'll just, alright, I'll have one of those 15 or one of those 20. And now I'm just out of nowhere started collecting art because of this one website.
01:19:38.000The reason I even brought it up though is that I'm compulsive like that.
01:19:43.000I was doing the sneakers and like I said, I collected these toys and then when I stopped doing both of those, I kind of sank all that energy into collecting paintings.
01:19:51.000I have paintings now in a couple different houses.
01:19:55.000I have paintings like, there's too many to even hang on walls.
01:19:58.000They're like in stacks, just leaning up against walls.
01:20:50.000And a whole long wall of his house was a gallery.
01:20:54.000It was set up for rotating pieces of art.
01:20:57.000And he would, you know, literally, like, harbor some of the best artists in the world and buy their shit and rotate new stuff from there to his, like, he had warehouses where he would store the pieces that he wasn't showing.
01:21:09.000I'm getting to the point where I have to find, like, a professional place soon to store a lot of my art.
01:21:14.000Yeah, this dude had his house set up like a museum.
01:22:13.000And I just have been trained like that, but I owe that to like actually a lot of the like Cypress homies and them cats when we was all coming up together because they kind of came, I came from suburbia, you know what I mean?
01:22:24.000Not rich suburbia, you know, lower class, lower middle class, but middle class nonetheless.
01:22:28.000And these cats came from, you know, like I was with Ice and all them.
01:22:31.000Like I ran with the syndicate for a while, but I never was like dipped into like he was already a grown man into the entertainment business.
01:22:37.000His big gangster and all that days were right behind him.
01:22:40.000Cypress guys were fresh off the street.
01:23:37.000What I'm saying is I've been alert enough that I know that I have actually avoided a few times of actually being...
01:23:45.000robbed or this or that or the other by just by circumstances and how I reacted to them and how I was alerted to them.
01:23:51.000There was times when I was in New York at certain clubs where I definitely knew I was being stalked and about to be preyed upon and I would happen to bump into some cats that I knew and I'd be like, I'm already alerted to these dudes and it'd be like, just the fact that now I'm with some peoples I know and then they just the fact that now I'm with some peoples I know and then they know You know what I mean?
01:25:25.000It was a very, I mean amongst us it was known and our fans it was known, but it was like this thing over Napster.
01:25:31.000Like I never released a record about it because I wasn't trying to profit off the situation.
01:25:36.000It was a personal thing between me and him.
01:25:38.000What'd you guys get mad at each other for?
01:25:40.000I got a little mad at him because I went to shake his hand somewhere and he kind of, before he was Eminem, who he is now, Elvis, you know, as big as Elvis type character.
01:25:47.000This was like when he was first coming in and I just went to shake his hand and he kind of, I felt disrespected.
01:25:52.000Found out later that, you know, he didn't really see it the same way.
01:25:55.000He didn't realize it was that kind of situation after the fact, like I said, we haven't had a problem for 10 years.
01:26:05.000It just became like, alright, well, you don't talk about me, I won't talk about you, and we'll just keep it at that.
01:26:10.000One of the things I've found, and it's pretty easy to grab upon this, is that whenever you're around anybody who's really creative or really out there, really dynamic in the way they perform, They're also almost always very emotional.
01:26:25.000And some of them have a good handle on it, like you.
01:26:28.000You're always a pretty relaxed, mellow, in a certain groove dude.
01:26:34.000I've been around you a bunch of times.
01:27:05.000How many guys do you know that you feel personally are as smart as you and as talented as you that for one reason or another without being like they didn't get convicted of rape or nothing stupid like that but just it just something doesn't click like something doesn't happen for them and it's like you I got a bunch of musician friends of mine that are geniuses that I'm just like why why you know what is it about them why why what and that element is whatever that planets lining up that just You're at the right place, right time, and you know how to react.