The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1760 - Adam Curry

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00:00:25.000 Adam Curry, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:27.000 Joe Rogan, I have much man love for you, my brother.

00:00:30.000 I have much man love for you, buddy.

00:00:31.000 Much man love for you.

00:00:32.000 If it wasn't for you, this business would not exist.

00:00:35.000 Well... 1.00

00:00:35.000 You're the fucking patient zero, my brother. 1.00

00:00:37.000 I appreciate you saying that. 1.00

00:00:39.000 It's true.

00:00:39.000 Without you...

00:00:40.000 Everybody needs to know it. 1.00

00:00:41.000 Without you, holy shit, I wouldn't have been recertified. 0.99

00:00:45.000 Someone needed to know. 0.98

00:00:47.000 It's highly appreciated, man.

00:00:49.000 Go through the archives.

00:00:50.000 Without you.

00:00:51.000 You are the one.

00:00:52.000 How's Texas treating you?

00:00:53.000 It's been what now?

00:00:54.000 Is it two years?

00:00:55.000 No, no, no.

00:00:56.000 It's a year and a half.

00:00:57.000 Year and a half.

00:00:58.000 Yeah, a year and a half.

00:00:58.000 You like it?

00:00:59.000 Fucking love it. 0.99

00:01:00.000 Good. 0.99

00:01:00.000 Your kids? 0.99

00:01:01.000 Everybody loves it.

00:01:02.000 Yeah, good.

00:01:02.000 Love the people here.

00:01:04.000 I love everything.

00:01:04.000 I love the fact that it gets cold.

00:01:06.000 It's cold out today.

00:01:07.000 I love the changing of the weather. 1.00

00:01:09.000 I love the fucking animals everywhere. 0.99

00:01:11.000 You have actual seasons. 1.00

00:01:12.000 People don't know that.

00:01:13.000 We got seasons here. 0.99

00:01:14.000 Oh, Texas gets cold as fuck. 0.99

00:01:15.000 It was in the 20s last night. 0.99

00:01:17.000 When I left Hill Country this morning, 18. Yeah, it's, woo, really, 18. With some wind factor.

00:01:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:24.000 When it snowed out here last year, I was like, okay.

00:01:27.000 Now, you didn't lose power, right?

00:01:28.000 No, we got lucky.

00:01:29.000 No, you're on the rich side.

00:01:30.000 I was on the east side. 1.00

00:01:31.000 They turned that shit off right away. 1.00

00:01:32.000 Oh, no, my rich friends lost their fucking power. 1.00

00:01:33.000 My friend's way richer than me. 1.00

00:01:35.000 He lost his power.

00:01:35.000 Oh, really?

00:01:36.000 Well, where was he?

00:01:37.000 He's in Westlake, I guess?

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:41.000 Okay, Westlake.

00:01:42.000 We were southeast before. 0.99

00:01:44.000 Man, where the Section 8 apartments are, that shit got turned off right away. 0.98

00:01:48.000 Yeah, we got a generator now because of that. 0.99

00:01:50.000 It was a little sketchy.

00:01:51.000 Ours is getting installed next week.

00:01:53.000 You know, it's nice to have food, too.

00:01:56.000 You know, I always have food stockpiled because I'm a hunter.

00:02:00.000 I gotta tell you, man, food intelligence has got to be the buzzword for the next couple of years.

00:02:06.000 Food intelligence is a good buzzword.

00:02:08.000 Because people, well, first of all, just look at us, you know, post-COVID or Omicron now, whatever.

00:02:14.000 We're pretty sick people. 0.99

00:02:16.000 Americans are pretty unhealthy. 1.00

00:02:18.000 Yeah, overall. 0.99

00:02:18.000 In general. 0.99

00:02:19.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:02:19.000 It's a real problem.

00:02:21.000 And we've let it slide.

00:02:23.000 We don't know what we're eating anymore.

00:02:24.000 We just don't.

00:02:27.000 You know, there's a lot of things happening with food, and you'll appreciate this, the meat processors, they have no intention of really continuing actual beef and other real meat.

00:02:40.000 They are all moving towards processing soy, et cetera, creating, I can't believe it's not burger, the fake meat, the fake pork.

00:02:48.000 Really?

00:02:48.000 All of them are doing that?

00:02:49.000 All of them.

00:02:50.000 But isn't that stock down in that Beyond Burger stuff or Beyond Meat stuff?

00:02:57.000 So those are just the brands, but go look at really the food process.

00:03:00.000 There's only a couple of them.

00:03:01.000 We have JB's, I think.

00:03:04.000 The biggest one is Cargill.

00:03:05.000 I love talking about Cargill because they're like a secretive family.

00:03:08.000 They're kind of like Succession. 0.99

00:03:10.000 Oh, that's a great fucking show, by the way. 0.99

00:03:12.000 Or like the Sacklers. 1.00

00:03:14.000 The same thing.

00:03:15.000 Which one's the Sacklers? 0.95

00:03:16.000 Purdue Pharma.

00:03:17.000 Okay.

00:03:17.000 Who helped kill 100,000 people.

00:03:20.000 At least.

00:03:21.000 This year.

00:03:21.000 This year, right?

00:03:22.000 By the way, isn't it interesting that on Hulu there's a fantastic series.

00:03:28.000 Dope Sick.

00:03:28.000 I've heard about it.

00:03:29.000 I have not watched it yet.

00:03:30.000 What's great about it, Michael Keaton produced it, so kudos to him.

00:03:34.000 What's great about it is it shows how corrupt the FDA is, how all the systems work, how evil this family was.

00:03:40.000 Unfortunately, it feels a lot like...

00:03:43.000 Okay, we've dealt with it.

00:03:44.000 The Sacklers are done. 0.80

00:03:45.000 They paid $5-6 billion.

00:03:47.000 No one's in jail.

00:03:49.000 If you look at the actual fines, Johnson& Johnson, they paid $25 billion in fines.

00:03:56.000 They did?

00:03:57.000 Because they were four times as worse. 1.00

00:03:59.000 The Sacklers are just being pushed aside as, okay, those were the assholes, they did it. 1.00

00:04:03.000 But meanwhile, 100,000 people OD'd from opioids. 0.99

00:04:07.000 I was under the impression, I guess I'm wrong, that the biggest one was Pfizer.

00:04:12.000 Wasn't the biggest one the biggest fine Pfizer for a while for that anti-inflammatory drug?

00:04:19.000 That's different, but we're talking about opioids specifically.

00:04:21.000 Oh, so it's not like just pharmaceutical company fines?

00:04:24.000 No, this is just opioids, yeah.

00:04:28.000 Okay, so they fine people for lying about pharmaceutical drugs and then fine people.

00:04:32.000 It's a different thing, like a different categorization?

00:04:35.000 Because they were saying that that was the biggest fine for like medical stuff.

00:04:40.000 What are we looking at?

00:04:41.000 5 billion, landmark, 26 billion opioid settlement.

00:04:45.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 But it sounds like more people were involved then.

00:04:49.000 If Johnson& Johnson's paying 5 billion, where's the rest of the 11 million coming from?

00:04:55.000 Well, I don't know what this article is.

00:04:57.000 21 million coming from.

00:04:58.000 But I believe Johnson& Johnson paid much more.

00:05:01.000 So there's two parts to it.

00:05:03.000 One is the pharmaceutical companies that were developing it and then...

00:05:07.000 Oh, it says it right here.

00:05:09.000 Because remember, they said it was non-addictive.

00:05:12.000 Right, right, right.

00:05:13.000 That was the problem.

00:05:14.000 And so when you continue to push that and they were saying, oh...

00:05:18.000 It's not working.

00:05:18.000 Up the dose.

00:05:19.000 All of that was a problem.

00:05:21.000 But also Walmart, CVS, and Walgreens, they're now being fined for basically overselling.

00:05:29.000 Just being pill mills.

00:05:31.000 Legal drugs, Joe.

00:05:33.000 Just legal heroin being distributed to unwilling people or unwitting people.

00:05:38.000 So it's saying that this was the whole fine.

00:05:42.000 So it looks like Johnson& Johnson paid $5 billion and there was another $21 billion.

00:05:47.000 When's this article from, Jamie?

00:05:49.000 I'm not saying this is the whole thing either, but this is just from July.

00:05:52.000 But I'm pretty sure Johnson& Johnson wanted to pay $25 billion in total.

00:05:57.000 Okay, but let's just read this, just for the heck of it, and then we'll figure it out.

00:06:00.000 It just says, under the settlement proposal, the three largest U.S. drug distributors, McKesson Corp., Cardinal Health, and America Source Bergen, that's all one word for some strange reason, America Source Bergen, one word, Corp., are expected to pay a combined $21 billion,

00:06:16.000 while drug maker Johnson& Johnson, which manufactures opioids, would pay $5 billion.

00:06:22.000 Well, the Sacklers aren't even in here, so something is missing from this, and that's Purdue Pharma.

00:06:27.000 They took the fall, for sure.

00:06:29.000 They got the Hulu series, everything.

00:06:31.000 They took the fall, and now it's just like, it's over.

00:06:34.000 No one's talking about it anymore, but the problem still exists.

00:06:37.000 There's this term that everybody uses today, right?

00:06:41.000 And it's influencer.

00:06:44.000 It's a term that they use for social media people that sell sneakers and people that are doing certain things.

00:06:50.000 They become influencers.

00:06:52.000 But the biggest influencer is what's in the news and what's accepted.

00:07:00.000 Like, what we tolerate is the big influencer.

00:07:03.000 And the people that get to control, like, what seems normal.

00:07:07.000 Like, if your doctor's like, hey, Adam, you've got a bad back.

00:07:10.000 Let's just accept it, and let's deal with the pain.

00:07:12.000 And then he's got you hooked on this stuff, and you can't get off, and you're literally sick.

00:07:17.000 Your body's shaking.

00:07:19.000 Who's responsible for that?

00:07:20.000 Is it the company that talked the doctor into doing that?

00:07:24.000 Is it a doctor for not looking into it enough and just accepting the people...

00:07:29.000 Are fine just going out and getting whacked out on pill form heroin?

00:07:33.000 I think you have to go back much further.

00:07:35.000 You have to go back towards when modern medicine got funding.

00:07:41.000 So this is when we had the homeopaths and then we had the allopaths.

00:07:45.000 And the allopaths got all the money mainly from Rockefellers and a couple of the big rich families of the day.

00:07:54.000 And that all kind of came to a head very quickly.

00:07:56.000 There's a couple of great documentaries about the cure for cancer and how many entrepreneurial doctors, even one rancher in Texas, had really figured it out.

00:08:07.000 I think his clinic still operates in Mexico.

00:08:10.000 People go there.

00:08:11.000 And it's exactly the opposite.

00:08:16.000 We're good to go.

00:08:28.000 It was very easy for the big families to say, okay, we're going to establish universities where we teach this, which is not necessarily the look at the whole person, what is the person eating, etc.

00:08:40.000 It's like, diagnose the problem, prescribe the medication.

00:08:43.000 So this is a problem that has been here.

00:08:46.000 It's throughout the system.

00:08:48.000 There's no education.

00:08:49.000 It's all just, that's what it is.

00:08:52.000 No education is a big one and don't you think it also is a function of doctors having these ridiculous student loan bills and they get out of school and they're in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars sometimes.

00:09:03.000 It's capture.

00:09:03.000 And then they're in this system where they're trying to get people in and out of their office as quick as possible.

00:09:08.000 It's capture.

00:09:09.000 A really good doctor should be sitting down with you and talking to you for a long time.

00:09:14.000 You're trying to figure out what's wrong with your body.

00:09:17.000 The idea that he could do that in 15, 20 minutes and just write a thing.

00:09:20.000 So you're suicidal now because of that one?

00:09:22.000 Okay, let's throw that one away.

00:09:24.000 We're going to give you this one, Adam.

00:09:25.000 I think this might do the trick.

00:09:27.000 And next thing you know, you're on this new thing.

00:09:29.000 Well, we're in a good place now, I think.

00:09:32.000 In the United States, the rest of the world, I'm not so sure, but we're very entrepreneurial.

00:09:39.000 Yes.

00:09:39.000 I mean, the French had to make up a word for us, you know?

00:09:42.000 It's like, we're so entrepreneurial.

00:09:45.000 And we're in, I think, a big decentralization moment where people are leaving big tech platforms and that's going off towards more decentralized, smaller things that interconnect in some way.

00:10:00.000 Travel is actually starting to unravel.

00:10:03.000 We're getting new technology.

00:10:04.000 New aircraft will be much cheaper for smaller groups and more effective to fly in, but also medicine.

00:10:11.000 We're seeing a lot of healthcare workers, nurses, doctors, leaving the systems, and off-the-shelf technology, doing their own telemedicine, concierge healthcare, where they only take 500 patients from the community, charge them $100 a month,

00:10:27.000 and as much time as you need, or as often as you need, and really they build up a profile, like doctors should do.

00:10:35.000 Functional medicine is a part of this, so this is happening across the schooling.

00:10:40.000 Parents are taking their kids out of school.

00:10:42.000 They're creating their own school.

00:10:43.000 They're doing homeschooling.

00:10:45.000 That's been going on for a while with charter schools, but I think we'll see even more smaller community schooling.

00:10:51.000 Everything is decentralizing.

00:10:53.000 We're moving away—the smart people, I think—we're moving away from the big box stores, you know? 1.00

00:10:58.000 It's like people are literally getting sick from the shit in there. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Literally. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Literally getting sick from the shit that's being sold there. 1.00

00:11:06.000 So people are going back, and— I think that, you know, coming back to food intelligence, China right now is hoarding grain. 0.99

00:11:16.000 They supply 60% of the world's grain.

00:11:19.000 They've been hoarding it for a while, actually, maybe a year and a half, two years.

00:11:23.000 So we're gonna have a shortage, a global shortage.

00:11:26.000 The meat processors, they're not interested in really using livestock anymore.

00:11:32.000 It's just a lot more profitable And we're training people.

00:11:37.000 Oh, now it's an amazing thing.

00:11:41.000 Is it Burger King?

00:11:42.000 Or someone just came out with new soy nuggets.

00:11:48.000 We're being kind of pushed into this.

00:11:50.000 And all we know is we put it in our face.

00:11:52.000 It has the same texture.

00:11:53.000 It tastes the right way.

00:11:55.000 And the profits are much better.

00:11:58.000 So that's where people are starting to reach out and say, well, why don't I go meet a rancher one day and a local processor?

00:12:07.000 It's not USDA. They can't get that.

00:12:09.000 But in Texas, you're allowed to sell your meat directly without USDA stamp.

00:12:14.000 One of the few states.

00:12:16.000 Vegetables, all this stuff.

00:12:17.000 We're going to have to figure it out because we're going to have shortages.

00:12:20.000 I think we're going to have some serious food shortages.

00:12:22.000 It'll be weird, like bread might not show up or something else will happen, but we're going to have shortages.

00:12:28.000 Well, we have a bunch of problems, right?

00:12:31.000 One of the big ones is large population centers.

00:12:34.000 Aren't self-sustainable.

00:12:36.000 Entirely not, no.

00:12:37.000 Yeah, they need food shipped into them.

00:12:38.000 They need Whole Foods and HEV. It's really weird.

00:12:41.000 If you think about the size of like a New York City, it's enormous, right?

00:12:44.000 There's so many people. 0.95

00:12:46.000 It's a perfect place because the buildings are stacked on top of each other and everything is like, when you're there, you're like, There's so much fucking energy in this place. 0.93

00:12:54.000 But very little is getting grown in terms of food. 0.94

00:12:59.000 Very little.

00:13:00.000 Definitely not enough to sustain it.

00:13:02.000 So you've got to keep shipping things in.

00:13:04.000 So you've got to keep the roads good because you're always just bringing things in on boats and bringing things in on trucks.

00:13:08.000 Everything has to come in.

00:13:10.000 One of the cool things about watching a video about a really good restaurant is seeing them going to meet the fish as the fish are coming in off the boats.

00:13:19.000 Everything has to get there.

00:13:20.000 Yeah.

00:13:20.000 Someone's got to deliver something.

00:13:21.000 They got to go to a farmer's market and get these big crates from someone way the fuck away who grew the food.

00:13:25.000 Well, we used to have a fish market, you know, which became very popular to live, you know, in New York.

00:13:31.000 It literally was the fish market. 0.97

00:13:33.000 And the shit came in. 1.00

00:13:34.000 The guys were slicing shit up and moving it out in the middle of the night. 1.00

00:13:38.000 It was a dangerous place to be. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Lots of hookers in that neighborhood. 1.00

00:13:41.000 It was cool as shit. 1.00

00:13:42.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:13:42.000 And now it's like, you know, three million dollar one bedroom apartments there. 0.98

00:13:47.000 Those are hard men that fillet fish all day. 1.00

00:13:50.000 Those are hard fucking men. 1.00

00:13:52.000 That is a hard job. 1.00

00:13:55.000 That's a real fucking job. 0.99

00:13:56.000 And you're seeing that too. 0.99

00:13:57.000 You know, kids are looking around and their parents are saying, you know, maybe not go to college.

00:14:01.000 Maybe go to vocational school.

00:14:03.000 Learn to trade.

00:14:05.000 Be entrepreneurial.

00:14:07.000 Yeah.

00:14:07.000 Seeing a lot of that.

00:14:08.000 So you're an optimist.

00:14:10.000 Always.

00:14:11.000 Always.

00:14:12.000 That's good. 0.98

00:14:13.000 Because there's a lot of people that share your perspective that there's some serious fucking things that are wrong. 0.97

00:14:17.000 I wanted to talk to them about, like the grain thing. 0.97

00:14:19.000 First of all, I've never heard the China grain thing.

00:14:21.000 I only learned it recently myself.

00:14:24.000 Yeah.

00:14:25.000 It says, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, China is expected to have 69% of the globe's maize reserves.

00:14:33.000 I like how they use the Native American term.

00:14:35.000 Maize.

00:14:35.000 It's like cinema.

00:14:37.000 It's maize.

00:14:37.000 It's not corn.

00:14:38.000 It's so open-minded.

00:14:41.000 In the first half of crop year 2022, 60% of its rice and 51% of its wheat.

00:14:49.000 Here's my thing. 0.99

00:14:50.000 You can keep all that shit because it's not good for you anyway. 1.00

00:14:53.000 How about that? 1.00

00:14:54.000 Well, this is another thing.

00:14:56.000 Can we stop with the rapeseed oil and canola oil already? 1.00

00:14:59.000 That shit's not good for you, right? 1.00

00:15:00.000 That is industrial sludge, brother. 1.00

00:15:02.000 And everyone's cooking with it.

00:15:04.000 It's in everything.

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:05.000 The market, because it's rapeseed oil.

00:15:07.000 But now we call it canola oil.

00:15:08.000 The marketing has been fantastic.

00:15:09.000 Rapeseed is a rough word to sell. 0.93

00:15:11.000 For health-conscious folk.

00:15:13.000 Have you had any rapeseed?

00:15:14.000 Well, I feel like it when I've had it, yeah.

00:15:18.000 There's a well-known fact that there's too much grain in a lot of people's diets.

00:15:28.000 Yeah.

00:15:28.000 In terms of people that eat bread all day and pasta.

00:15:31.000 Come on.

00:15:32.000 That's not something you should have all day like that.

00:15:34.000 Do you use animal fat for cooking?

00:15:36.000 Yes.

00:15:36.000 What do you use for cooking?

00:15:37.000 Beef tallow.

00:15:38.000 Okay, because there was, I think, a psyop, basically, on the American people. 0.99

00:15:43.000 Like, oh, that's going to kill you.

00:15:44.000 You can't use beef protein for your fat, for cooking.

00:15:52.000 Because they wanted it.

00:15:54.000 What was the argument?

00:15:54.000 You just have to accept people are asking money.

00:15:56.000 I use avocado oil too sometimes.

00:15:59.000 It's got a high smoke point.

00:16:00.000 The answer is money.

00:16:01.000 It's always money.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 I mean, look, it's great stuff.

00:16:04.000 And more and more farmers are being incentivized in the United States to grow the last harvest.

00:16:11.000 What exactly does those processed seed oils do that's bad to you?

00:16:16.000 Because there's a lot of people that are, like, hardcore on it.

00:16:18.000 Like, Paul Saladino's very hardcore on it.

00:16:22.000 Rob Wolf's very hardcore on it, I believe.

00:16:24.000 I hope I'm not misrepresenting his position, but I think a lot of those guys think you should avoid those kind of fats.

00:16:30.000 Like, those kind of...

00:16:31.000 Those processed seed oils.

00:16:33.000 Well, here's what I know.

00:16:34.000 Process is number one.

00:16:36.000 Right.

00:16:36.000 I've learned this from my buddy, Texas Slim.

00:16:39.000 That's a great name.

00:16:40.000 Yes, well, and he kind of came out of semi-retirement.

00:16:43.000 He's a little bit young.

00:16:43.000 He's about...

00:16:44.000 Our age, a little younger, to start the Beef Initiative.

00:16:49.000 And so he's setting it up so people are getting connected with, you know, just basically directly with farmers and food and, you know, using Bitcoin as kind of the common network.

00:16:58.000 But more importantly, he's writing and educating people.

00:17:04.000 I think?

00:17:20.000 Now go to Houston.

00:17:21.000 How do people look now?

00:17:22.000 So what's the difference?

00:17:23.000 People used to live off of beef in Texas.

00:17:27.000 It's not a great place to grow seeds, but we have the original seeds, the ones that aren't genetically modified.

00:17:35.000 The cattle manure that fertilized the ground, not using artificial stuff, whatever you need to hyper-grow stuff.

00:17:46.000 And we looked much better.

00:17:47.000 And now go to Houston, everyone's obese. 0.95

00:17:49.000 So, you know, it's got to be at the intake.

00:17:52.000 It's got to be at the input.

00:17:53.000 It's not just a sedentary.

00:17:55.000 It's also lifestyle, too.

00:17:55.000 Don't you think there's a lot of people around here in particular, very active, a lot of people exercise, a lot of young people.

00:18:00.000 But people aren't that healthy looking, even in Austin.

00:18:02.000 It's not all that great.

00:18:04.000 No?

00:18:04.000 No, I don't think so.

00:18:05.000 I don't think so.

00:18:07.000 There's certain places that everybody looks pretty fit, like Boulder, Colorado is one of them.

00:18:11.000 You walk around, everybody looks like they hikes.

00:18:13.000 Well, they do.

00:18:14.000 They hike.

00:18:14.000 They do.

00:18:15.000 They actually do.

00:18:16.000 They mountain bike, they hike.

00:18:17.000 They seem like an active family that has one of them things on the roof.

00:18:21.000 You know those things on the roof?

00:18:22.000 If you've got one of those, you're active. 0.99

00:18:23.000 You know, they store their shit in that little... 0.98

00:18:25.000 It's all aerodynamic and stuff? 0.99

00:18:28.000 Yeah, like...

00:18:29.000 Just in case they want to bust out the tent.

00:18:32.000 It's up there.

00:18:33.000 We get trapped in the woods.

00:18:35.000 That's Boulder, man.

00:18:35.000 That's a big thing with Boulder.

00:18:37.000 Everybody looks pretty fit.

00:18:38.000 Not everybody, obviously.

00:18:39.000 A buddy of mine has an EMT in Boulder.

00:18:43.000 Where they live in Erie is right near where the fire happened.

00:18:48.000 The recent fire.

00:18:50.000 That was massive.

00:18:51.000 Huge fire.

00:18:52.000 So he went off to work. 1.00

00:18:53.000 He was off saving shit. 1.00

00:18:55.000 And then his wife... 1.00

00:18:56.000 Was packing up the car because he figured they might have to go.

00:18:59.000 And of course, they're in Boulder, so she packs everything and throws the skis in just in case.

00:19:03.000 Just in case.

00:19:04.000 Just in case.

00:19:04.000 You might want to go skiing when you're running from a fire.

00:19:07.000 Dude, hold on, hold on.

00:19:09.000 Gotta get the skis in.

00:19:10.000 You got your boots?

00:19:11.000 Yeah, it's fantastic.

00:19:12.000 Super active.

00:19:13.000 I love that, yeah.

00:19:14.000 So people in Europe, they walk around more, right?

00:19:16.000 Isn't that the idea, like, why Europeans are a little healthier?

00:19:19.000 They walk around more than us.

00:19:20.000 And then there's also the original wheat, which has not been...

00:19:24.000 Apparently, this is from Maynard.

00:19:25.000 I'm not sure if this is accurate, but Maynard Keenan from Tool, you know, he actually runs...

00:19:32.000 He has restaurants, and he also has his own vineyard.

00:19:35.000 And he knows a lot about growing things.

00:19:36.000 And his Osteria is served pasta.

00:19:39.000 And he was telling me that what the difference is, is the original wheat was like a lower yield, was a smaller plant.

00:19:45.000 And so they eventually manipulated it until it's what we have today, which has much more, what he said, complex glutens in it.

00:19:52.000 That's where our bodies have harder times digesting them.

00:19:55.000 And then on top of the fact that corn syrup is so prevalent.

00:19:58.000 And sugar is so prevalent.

00:20:00.000 We're putting processed sugar and corn syrup and all that stuff into everything.

00:20:04.000 And people are drinking sugary sodas all day.

00:20:07.000 They taste delicious. 0.98

00:20:08.000 But the amount of calories in those things is fucking crazy. 0.95

00:20:11.000 And it's crazy calories where your body doesn't understand it. 0.96

00:20:14.000 Like, where are you getting all this sugar?

00:20:16.000 It's like all of a sudden something comes in in a rush in a drink.

00:20:19.000 And then, give me more, give me more, give me more.

00:20:20.000 Someone's explaining this to me that sugar in a drink form is so wild because it's not like anything you would ever experience in nature.

00:20:28.000 And they were thinking about it.

00:20:29.000 They were saying, think about it.

00:20:31.000 If you ate a bunch of fruit, all that sugar that's in that fruit, it's going to take a while to chew it.

00:20:37.000 It's attached to fiber.

00:20:39.000 Now you're mainlining the sugar right down your throat. 1.00

00:20:41.000 We're throwing it down and it's a stupid amount. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Like, what is the amount? 1.00

00:20:44.000 Let's guess.

00:20:45.000 Let's take a guess.

00:20:45.000 What is the amount of sugar that's in a 7-Eleven Big Gulp?

00:20:50.000 In a Big Gulp?

00:20:51.000 A Big Gulp.

00:20:52.000 50 grams.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, I'm going to say 65. 65 grams.

00:20:57.000 Now, of course, the problem is, and the reason why it's in grams, no one in America can fucking understand how much that is. 0.86

00:21:03.000 How many ounces? 0.95

00:21:04.000 How many tablespoons is that, Joe?

00:21:07.000 Why are you giving me metric, bro?

00:21:08.000 Jamie, Jamie, what is it?

00:21:09.000 I don't even understand.

00:21:11.000 65 grams.

00:21:12.000 91. 91 ounces?

00:21:14.000 Grams.

00:21:14.000 Oh, my God.

00:21:15.000 91 grams and how many ounces in American weight?

00:21:19.000 91?

00:21:21.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:21:21.000 Give me the mega mass of that shit. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Oh my god, dude. 1.00

00:21:25.000 That's so much.

00:21:26.000 How could we be so off?

00:21:27.000 That is so much.

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:29.000 You're not supposed to have that much in a week.

00:21:32.000 A big up is 32 ounces.

00:21:34.000 What are you supposed to...

00:21:35.000 What is like a reasonable...

00:21:37.000 Obviously it changes depending upon your body's...

00:21:39.000 I have almost no sugar.

00:21:41.000 But I mean, you get some in fruits and some in milk and some in some different things.

00:21:46.000 I'm trying to gain weight.

00:21:47.000 It's really hard for me. 1.00

00:21:48.000 I have to drink protein shakes and shit. 1.00

00:21:50.000 You're an ectomorph, if that's real. 1.00

00:21:52.000 You know what that means?

00:21:54.000 It sounds like something from outer space, so I kind of like it.

00:21:57.000 There's mesomorphs, endomorphs, and ectomorphs.

00:22:00.000 Okay, what is an ectomorph?

00:22:01.000 An ectomorph is a long, thinner person that usually has a harder time putting weight on. 1.00

00:22:08.000 Okay, that's me.

00:22:10.000 I've got to be real clear about this.

00:22:11.000 I remember reading this, but I don't know if this has been disproven.

00:22:14.000 All right.

00:22:15.000 And like a mesomorph is something like a Vanderholyfield, like someone with like perfect proportions.

00:22:21.000 Okay.

00:22:22.000 Like a narrow waist, big shoulders, like a Vanderholyfield is a mesomorph.

00:22:26.000 And I'm more like more endomorph.

00:22:28.000 I'm like wide and short.

00:22:31.000 Here we go.

00:22:32.000 Endomorph.

00:22:33.000 See?

00:22:33.000 I'm more like endomorph.

00:22:34.000 Can you show me where on the body you were touched, Joe?

00:22:38.000 Can you point to the spot?

00:22:39.000 You look better than the guy on the far left, but that's your anectomorph. 1.00

00:22:43.000 You're long, tall.

00:22:44.000 I'm the guy on the left.

00:22:45.000 Yes.

00:22:46.000 It's not really you, though, dude.

00:22:48.000 You're much better looking.

00:22:50.000 A little more like that.

00:22:51.000 You're beautifully proportioned.

00:22:53.000 Yeah, the guy up there in the middle one.

00:22:55.000 No, no, yeah, that one.

00:22:56.000 That one.

00:22:56.000 You're more like that.

00:22:57.000 No, I'm not that.

00:22:58.000 More like that.

00:22:59.000 Tall and long.

00:23:00.000 But listen, it's not, it's just, what was my point about, oh, you can't gain weight.

00:23:05.000 But sugar's not, you don't want to do it that way anyway.

00:23:08.000 If you want to gain weight, you've got to hire a trainer.

00:23:11.000 Really?

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:12.000 A food trainer?

00:23:13.000 No, a lifting trainer.

00:23:14.000 Really?

00:23:14.000 Yeah.

00:23:15.000 You want to gain weight? 0.79

00:23:17.000 You want to get jacked?

00:23:18.000 Not really. 0.96

00:23:19.000 You should.

00:23:20.000 But I know it'll look better if I weigh more.

00:23:22.000 I don't think you should get jacked.

00:23:24.000 Honestly, I'm joking around.

00:23:25.000 I also got a dog, so I'm walking two miles a day.

00:23:27.000 Oh, that's nice.

00:23:28.000 Yeah.

00:23:28.000 Do it with a weight vest on.

00:23:30.000 Try that.

00:23:31.000 A weight vest?

00:23:32.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 Walking the dog?

00:23:33.000 Mm-hmm.

00:23:33.000 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 Walking the dog with, like, a start light, like, 10-pound weight vest.

00:23:38.000 Is a bulletproof vest okay, too?

00:23:39.000 Yeah, sure.

00:23:39.000 I got one of those.

00:23:40.000 Those are heavy.

00:23:41.000 Weigh it.

00:23:41.000 It's more than 10 pounds.

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 Okay.

00:23:44.000 The idea is, you know, you're putting more load on your system, and so walking is really good for you, but walking with a weight vest on is really good for you.

00:23:51.000 There was a guy in New York, Jack the Whack.

00:23:52.000 He was a DJ at Z100 when I was working there on a weekend.

00:23:56.000 Jack the Whack.

00:23:56.000 Jack the Whack!

00:23:56.000 Jack the Whack, everybody!

00:23:57.000 W-A-C-Z-Z! Remember that? 1.00

00:24:00.000 They had radio personalities.

00:24:02.000 Oh yeah, back when we had radio, and Jack was 350 pounds. 0.99

00:24:06.000 And I wasn't at the station for six months or so, and I came in, it's like 7 o'clock at night, and I'm like, what the fuck is Jack? 0.98

00:24:12.000 That's me. 0.92

00:24:13.000 And he'd just gone, just completely deflated.

00:24:16.000 I said, how did you do that?

00:24:17.000 He says, walking.

00:24:18.000 I said, what do you mean?

00:24:19.000 Every single time I put the set of songs on, which runs about eight minutes, I just walk around the office building.

00:24:25.000 That's crazy.

00:24:25.000 And they'd come back, he'd do a break, walk around the office building.

00:24:28.000 And he did that for six months, and he lost 250 pounds.

00:24:33.000 That's insane!

00:24:34.000 Good for him!

00:24:35.000 I believe in walking.

00:24:37.000 I love that.

00:24:37.000 I believe in walking.

00:24:38.000 I love that.

00:24:40.000 I love when someone does something like that.

00:24:41.000 And I see it in myself. 0.99

00:24:42.000 I'm walking like, shit, I'm losing weight. 1.00

00:24:44.000 I gotta eat more. 0.99

00:24:44.000 I definitely need to eat more. 0.99

00:24:46.000 Yeah, but you don't need to eat more if you're losing weight from walking.

00:24:49.000 You're probably burning off stuff that you don't need.

00:24:52.000 You're probably burning off fat.

00:24:53.000 I forget to eat.

00:24:54.000 Do you really?

00:24:55.000 Sometimes.

00:24:55.000 How's that possible?

00:24:56.000 I'm the opposite.

00:24:57.000 Weed.

00:24:57.000 Weed helps me forget to eat, Joe.

00:24:59.000 Not for a lot of people.

00:25:00.000 It gives them the munchies. 0.96

00:25:01.000 Yeah, I get the munchie thing and then like...

00:25:04.000 Dude, I eat so much.

00:25:06.000 I eat so much food.

00:25:07.000 Sometimes I just...

00:25:08.000 I am such a glutton.

00:25:10.000 Sometimes I just keep eating.

00:25:12.000 I just stuff my face.

00:25:13.000 See, I can't imagine that.

00:25:14.000 I can't imagine that.

00:25:16.000 I just stop.

00:25:18.000 Oh my god.

00:25:18.000 I love food.

00:25:19.000 I love food too. 1.00

00:25:21.000 I can't stuff enough of it into my fat fucking face. 1.00

00:25:23.000 This is an interesting admission. 1.00

00:25:25.000 No, it's fucking, I've talked about it many, many, many times on the podcast. 0.99

00:25:29.000 It's when I start eating, I consume enormous amounts of food. 0.99

00:25:32.000 Like, I almost feel like I'm starving.

00:25:35.000 Like, sometimes when I go to eat, I feel so hungry that I just want, I want to order three or four meals and eat them all.

00:25:43.000 And I've eaten two meals before, many times, especially after shows.

00:25:46.000 If I lift weights that day and then we do two shows and then we go to dinner, I'm ordering two steaks.

00:25:52.000 I eat so much food.

00:25:53.000 Wow.

00:25:54.000 I just can't stop eating.

00:25:56.000 You and I have a very different relationship with food.

00:25:59.000 My number one problem is pasta, man.

00:26:01.000 If I start eating pasta, I get bloated, and my stomach sticks out, and I grow love handles. 0.92

00:26:08.000 Like, if I get on a steady pasta diet of like four or five weeks in a row where I'm just fucking up, it goes straight Italian on me. 0.92

00:26:17.000 It's all those Dago genes of mine. 1.00

00:26:20.000 They fuck it, it'll go right to you. 1.00

00:26:22.000 It's always like the gut and the love handles first. 1.00

00:26:25.000 It's like, oh boy. 1.00

00:26:26.000 And it's also just feeling like shit. 0.99

00:26:28.000 I just never feel good when I eat a lot of pasta. 0.99

00:26:31.000 I always feel good when I'm eating like lean meat, you know, with some fat, some healthy fat, like grass-fed fat, like grass-fed ribeyes are probably the best example of that.

00:26:42.000 I love those.

00:26:42.000 They're so good.

00:26:42.000 So good for you.

00:26:43.000 Because it's got such a different texture than the grain-fed, too.

00:26:47.000 There's more chew to it, but it's still...

00:26:50.000 There's a taste.

00:26:52.000 You're eating a healthier animal.

00:26:54.000 It just tastes like an animal is supposed to taste.

00:26:56.000 I love a corn-fed steak, too.

00:27:00.000 They still taste great, but they're not the same.

00:27:03.000 No, it's not the same.

00:27:03.000 It's not the same.

00:27:04.000 No, at all.

00:27:05.000 That grass-fed is a healthier animal.

00:27:08.000 It's the way the animal's supposed to live.

00:27:09.000 And you have to be careful.

00:27:10.000 You know, I learned from Texas Sleep.

00:27:11.000 You've got to be careful.

00:27:13.000 There'll be words on it like grass-fed, and it could literally be three blades of grass in a pen. 0.99

00:27:18.000 There's all kinds of technicalities on labeling that is such bullshit. 0.98

00:27:22.000 Well, what's bullshit is when they don't tell you that they finished them with grain. 0.98

00:27:26.000 Some places do that. 0.98

00:27:28.000 They feed them grass until a couple months before they're gonna whack them, and then they just give them corn and fatten them up. 0.94

00:27:34.000 And they're really going so far with the technology of this shit, where they're putting sensors on the cattle and monitoring direct input of grain into their system, but it's also based upon supply and demand. 0.64

00:27:49.000 Where we're going, I truly think, is that people are so obsessed with their watches, their smart watches, their caloric intake, their heart rate, all these things, all these sensor type. 0.97

00:27:59.000 And we're also happy to give it up.

00:28:00.000 We give up a lot of information.

00:28:01.000 Just your phone itself tells a lot about how you walk.

00:28:05.000 Your gait can be determined from your phone.

00:28:07.000 All kinds of stuff, data about us.

00:28:10.000 It's very possible that in a future, which could be closer than you think, food is produced at the processors, which literally will be making processed food, that'll be tailored to you just to kind of keep you functional enough and keep you going with the nutrients that you need.

00:28:32.000 And kind of keep you in a matrix-like world, just kind of a state of, mm-hmm, I'm just existing, I'm just kind of doing my thing, whatever I'm told to do.

00:28:40.000 I think that would be, you know, I think there's some actual thought about that.

00:28:45.000 No, I think so, too.

00:28:46.000 It's sad, but that's all our fault, because we can decide just to not do it.

00:28:52.000 Opt out.

00:28:54.000 You know, whenever we say it's our fault, like, what is that? 0.76

00:28:56.000 You know, it's silly.

00:28:58.000 It's Adam Curry, Joe Rogan.

00:28:59.000 If we don't convert the world, it's our fault. 0.99

00:29:02.000 Look, we fucked up. 1.00

00:29:03.000 We let all the idiots get on the school boards and in city councils. 1.00

00:29:06.000 I wasn't paying attention. 1.00

00:29:08.000 A lot of people weren't paying attention.

00:29:10.000 I feel bad about that.

00:29:11.000 They get scared now when you see all these TikToks, these crazy people that are teachers, you're like, oh my god.

00:29:16.000 But crazy people, they're just parents, Joe. 0.94

00:29:18.000 Well, some of them are. 1.00

00:29:19.000 I think a lot of them are.

00:29:21.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:29:22.000 We're talking about different things.

00:29:23.000 The TikTok thing's a different thing.

00:29:24.000 It's actual teachers.

00:29:27.000 It's insane teachers telling the class.

00:29:30.000 Oh, I'm coming out as lesbian and all that stuff.

00:29:32.000 It's always like, These children need to respect my non-binary status.

00:29:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:29:37.000 Oh, that shit. 0.99

00:29:37.000 If I get misgendered, the way I correct them, and they're like, usually, like a lot of them, like libs of TikTok has a whole series of them. 0.99

00:29:44.000 Some of them are just insane people that are now teaching your kids.

00:29:48.000 And not saying it's insane to be non-binary.

00:29:49.000 I'm saying it's insane to have this level of narcissism where you're declaring to the internet how you deal with a seven-year-old that's misgendering you.

00:29:57.000 Like this is...

00:29:58.000 Look at what the mechanisms are.

00:30:00.000 If they don't say they, them. 0.97

00:30:01.000 The seven-year-old has to learn they, them.

00:30:02.000 Is that real?

00:30:03.000 No, look at the mechanisms.

00:30:05.000 What's controlling this?

00:30:06.000 It's the TikTok.

00:30:07.000 It's the algorithm.

00:30:08.000 It's the phone we put in our kids' hands.

00:30:12.000 Are you aware of, I was having a conversation with a couple friends of mine about this the other day, the Shanna Swan book.

00:30:19.000 Dr. Shanna Swan, she's an environmental epidemiologist, I believe.

00:30:25.000 Is that what her actual title is?

00:30:27.000 She wrote this book, that I always forget the name of it, Countdown.

00:30:32.000 Thank you.

00:30:32.000 And it's all about chemicals.

00:30:34.000 Did you have her on the show?

00:30:35.000 She blew me away.

00:30:37.000 Blew me away.

00:30:39.000 It's all about chemicals.

00:30:40.000 Atrazine?

00:30:41.000 Yep, that's one of them for sure.

00:30:43.000 Phthalates.

00:30:44.000 Phthalates are a big one.

00:30:45.000 And what she was essentially saying was, what we're dealing with is like a biological crisis.

00:30:53.000 Like...

00:30:54.000 From the introduction of petrochemicals into the human diet, these phthalates have caused some weird alterations of our reproductive systems.

00:31:03.000 People are way less fertile.

00:31:06.000 Women are more prone to having miscarriages. 1.00

00:31:09.000 Men have lower sperm count.

00:31:11.000 All demonstrably true.

00:31:13.000 Yes, and men have smaller taints. 0.97

00:31:15.000 Now this is where the conversation went.

00:31:16.000 People started laughing at me.

00:31:17.000 I'm like, I know, it sounds crazy.

00:31:19.000 I thought it was doing pretty well until you brought it up like that.

00:31:22.000 Now it's hard not to...

00:31:24.000 She says taints.

00:31:25.000 She calls it taints.

00:31:26.000 With an S? Plural?

00:31:27.000 Taints?

00:31:28.000 Yeah, like a bunch of men's taints. 0.98

00:31:30.000 I have a taint and we have taints.

00:31:32.000 You know, we individually have a taint.

00:31:35.000 There's three taints in this room.

00:31:36.000 We are tainted up.

00:31:39.000 I'm assuming...

00:31:39.000 Jamie doesn't have one of them thing birds have.

00:31:41.000 What are those things called?

00:31:42.000 Like a piercing down there? 1.00

00:31:43.000 Birds have like one hole where everything comes out of shit, piss. 1.00

00:31:47.000 Clavica? 1.00

00:31:48.000 Something.

00:31:49.000 Clavicle?

00:31:50.000 Clavicle.

00:31:53.000 Clavicle.

00:31:54.000 I think it's clavicle.

00:31:56.000 Coaquil?

00:31:56.000 Is that it?

00:31:57.000 Oh, maybe.

00:31:58.000 Well, anogenital distance is the proper term for these.

00:32:01.000 Oh, for taint?

00:32:02.000 For taint measurement.

00:32:04.000 That sounds so much worse.

00:32:06.000 We say AGD, Joe, in mixed company.

00:32:10.000 What Dr. Shanna Swan said was that this is observable in mammals, that when they introduce phthalates into these mammals' bodies, the children, the offspring of these animals that were contaminated with these plastics, have these weird anomalies in the children,

00:32:26.000 in that they start to have less sperm count, they start to have smaller taints.

00:32:31.000 And she said that...

00:32:32.000 What is the function of the taint?

00:32:34.000 She said that in mammals the size of the taint is a great indicator of whether it's a male or a female and that when they look at like a little puppy like a puppy you know when you get them it's hard to tell is it a boy or girl you gotta look or something like that well when the taints of the males are between 50 and 100% larger than the taints of the females so if you see an animal with a long taint you go oh that's a boy but because of the introduction of phthalates into the mother the taints on the baby boys are smaller And they're seeing

00:33:04.000 the exact same thing with humans, they believe.

00:33:06.000 And this is in a lot of plastics that leach into our system.

00:33:10.000 I want to maybe next week you and I can both compare.

00:33:17.000 Taints.

00:33:17.000 Not of ours, but our wives.

00:33:19.000 If they're smaller, we'll come back with more data.

00:33:23.000 It's a science project, baby.

00:33:25.000 It's for show.

00:33:26.000 It's just for science.

00:33:28.000 It's for science.

00:33:29.000 Baby, it's for the show, is what I'm saying.

00:33:33.000 It's apparently a bad, in terms of what the outlook is for the future.

00:33:41.000 We're depopulizing.

00:33:43.000 I'm trying to say that without saying that.

00:33:44.000 Well, no, that's exactly what it sounds like.

00:33:46.000 Men whose AGD, that's the taint, is shorter than the median length, around 2 inches, 52 millimeters, have seven times the chance of being subfertile as those with a longer AGD, according to a study published on Friday in the Journal of Environmental Health Perspectives.

00:34:02.000 The distance measured from the anus to the underside of the scrotum is linked to male fertility, including semen volume and sperm count, the study found.

00:34:11.000 The shorter the AGD, the more likely a man was to have low sperm count.

00:34:15.000 And the sperm count is being lowered by plastics in the water.

00:34:18.000 This is interesting. 0.92

00:34:20.000 So it's the measure from the distance from the anus to the underside of the scrotum. 0.96

00:34:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:26.000 Is there anything on this page that tells you if you measure your actual dick length from the scrotum or from the top or the side? 1.00

00:34:33.000 Hmm. 0.99

00:34:34.000 Just something I've always wondered.

00:34:36.000 It's a good question, right?

00:34:37.000 How do you get an accurate read? 1.00

00:34:38.000 I mean, are guys measuring their dick by going around their balls and then adding all those extra inches? 1.00

00:34:42.000 Oh yeah, it starts in the back of my neck here. 1.00

00:34:44.000 Yeah, of course.

00:34:47.000 It's one of those things.

00:34:48.000 What she said freaked me the fuck out. 0.93

00:34:49.000 Yeah, we're depopulizing.

00:34:51.000 It's fairly new science in terms of understanding the role of phthalates in the reproductive systems of mammals.

00:34:58.000 I grew up in the Netherlands.

00:35:00.000 And when I grew up in the Netherlands, it's still a socialist country.

00:35:04.000 You had gray telephones.

00:35:06.000 You couldn't touch the phone.

00:35:07.000 You couldn't unplug it yourself.

00:35:08.000 That was all illegal.

00:35:09.000 Everything was socialized.

00:35:11.000 Taxes were 90%.

00:35:12.000 You couldn't unplug it?

00:35:13.000 No, that was illegal.

00:35:14.000 And they would know.

00:35:16.000 Oh my god, really?

00:35:17.000 It was weird.

00:35:18.000 That's crazy.

00:35:18.000 Especially coming from the US, even as a seven or eight year old.

00:35:22.000 But the typical meal is very simple in the Netherlands at the time.

00:35:28.000 In the morning, you may eat, it's all bread, butter, cheese, Maybe bread, butter, some speck, which is kind of a salted smoked bacon.

00:35:40.000 You could have something sweet if you wanted.

00:35:42.000 Nutella, maybe.

00:35:43.000 But then it was always meat, potatoes, vegetables.

00:35:46.000 Meat, potatoes, vegetables.

00:35:48.000 Or maybe with a piece of fish on Friday.

00:35:53.000 And that was it. 1.00

00:35:54.000 And people were the tallest fuckers in the universe. 1.00

00:35:56.000 They were healthy, skating all over the canals, winning at Olympics and all the tall people shit, just fucking swimming, speed skating, just badass. 0.99

00:36:06.000 And you think it has a lot to do with the diet? 0.99

00:36:07.000 And now, because I've observed it, I've been back and forth, I've lived there, I've come back to the States, and people are so much unhealthier, so much.

00:36:15.000 And of course, now they're getting processed food.

00:36:17.000 They're getting that from the Albertain, which is the, you know, from the supermarket.

00:36:20.000 They're getting...

00:36:21.000 You know, ready-made meals.

00:36:22.000 And because there's no incentive to educate people anymore, from the same people who own the processing companies and who own, you know, or endow the universities.

00:36:33.000 There's people trying to educate people online.

00:36:35.000 Of course.

00:36:36.000 Well, people are looking for it.

00:36:38.000 The human being, the human spirit is going, this can't be right.

00:36:41.000 For most people.

00:36:42.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:36:43.000 I think you're right.

00:36:44.000 I think for most people, they're like, if most people, if you got to look at the whole food system and looked at what people are eating, what kind of results we're getting, where, what was it?

00:36:53.000 40-something percent obese?

00:36:54.000 Something like that?

00:36:55.000 I think it's more than that.

00:36:56.000 What was it, Jamie?

00:36:57.000 Do you remember?

00:36:58.000 This is like the Jamie Fact Check show.

00:37:00.000 He's always on it.

00:37:01.000 Kids on the ball.

00:37:02.000 I know.

00:37:02.000 But when we looked at it last, it's a stunning number of obese people.

00:37:07.000 And a lot of it has to do with the diet.

00:37:10.000 It's also noticeable if you travel from Europe coming back to the United States.

00:37:14.000 42. 42.4% in 2017 to 2018. And what does obese mean?

00:37:21.000 Oh, look at this.

00:37:21.000 During the same time, the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 9.2%.

00:37:28.000 Wow.

00:37:30.000 Well, it's the CDC, so you've got to trust those numbers right away.

00:37:33.000 Yeah.

00:37:33.000 Could be much worse.

00:37:35.000 Who knows?

00:37:36.000 That's crazy.

00:37:37.000 That's crazy.

00:37:39.000 Put that back up.

00:37:41.000 That is much more recent.

00:37:42.000 That's from 1999 to 2000. I didn't read the whole thing.

00:37:45.000 It said from 1999 to 2000. And how many people got tipped over the edge during the pandemic and lockdowns?

00:37:57.000 I'm reading this wrong.

00:37:58.000 It was 99 to 2000 through 2017 to 2018. I don't know why they're saying it that way.

00:38:04.000 Anyway, it says obesity prevalence increased from 30% to 42%, 30.5 to 42.4.

00:38:13.000 During the same time, the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 9.2%.

00:38:19.000 That's what it is.

00:38:20.000 So that's a big trend from 2000 on.

00:38:25.000 I don't know why they put it that way.

00:38:27.000 It was 42% from 2017 to 2018. Oh, and that's...

00:38:32.000 Now I get it.

00:38:33.000 I'm reading them separately.

00:38:34.000 So, that's not good.

00:38:36.000 42% is terrible.

00:38:38.000 What...

00:38:39.000 You know, there needs to be, you know... 0.99

00:38:42.000 Some sort of a message gets out to people that goes, just put the fucking sugar down. 1.00

00:38:48.000 Put the sugar down. 1.00

00:38:50.000 Like, have it every now and then.

00:38:51.000 You're doing it right now.

00:38:53.000 Have a little dessert.

00:38:54.000 I saw the Nielsen ratings. 1.00

00:38:55.000 You are the number one show in the fucking universe. 1.00

00:38:59.000 I think that's propaganda. 1.00

00:39:00.000 I think it's the government.

00:39:01.000 It doesn't matter if it's propaganda.

00:39:03.000 It doesn't matter.

00:39:04.000 It's just what it is.

00:39:06.000 It's not real.

00:39:07.000 Fake numbers.

00:39:08.000 No, and it's beautiful.

00:39:09.000 It really is.

00:39:11.000 And what's so great is you basically have an open mic.

00:39:16.000 Basically.

00:39:17.000 So people come here and all kinds of messages are getting through.

00:39:21.000 That's a problem.

00:39:22.000 It is.

00:39:23.000 Of course it is. 1.00

00:39:24.000 And you get shit for it. 0.99

00:39:26.000 But I was like, man, there's so many reasons to take Joe down. 0.99

00:39:28.000 Why don't they take Joe down?

00:39:29.000 Well, of course, because as long as you can get the right people in.

00:39:33.000 What kind of a world are we living in where people would even think that it's a good idea to take people down for talking about stuff?

00:39:40.000 That is a crazy world.

00:39:42.000 I'm not telling people what to do.

00:39:44.000 I'm not trying to establish new laws.

00:39:47.000 I'm not trying to overthrow the government.

00:39:48.000 The idea of taking people down...

00:39:50.000 It's a political mechanism.

00:39:51.000 But we all think about it that way.

00:39:52.000 I don't.

00:39:53.000 I don't think you agree with it.

00:39:56.000 But I'm saying we all think that that's common.

00:39:58.000 It's worse than that.

00:39:59.000 It's now gamified.

00:40:01.000 And people are online, especially Twitter.

00:40:05.000 That's the only thing I ever look at if I look at something on social media.

00:40:09.000 And they're like, oh, look what he posted.

00:40:11.000 Oh, he's probably going to get deplatformed for that.

00:40:13.000 Oh, man.

00:40:14.000 Oh, they shut down his account, deactivated.

00:40:17.000 Oh, this is an outrage.

00:40:18.000 This is a game now.

00:40:20.000 It's definitely a game in that respect.

00:40:22.000 Especially in the idea that, for a lot of people, they see windows and then they have a bag of rocks that's handed to them, and they want to throw these rocks through the windows.

00:40:32.000 It's natural.

00:40:32.000 The thing is, what are people trying to achieve?

00:40:35.000 I mean, the game...

00:40:35.000 They're bored at work.

00:40:36.000 Okay, well that's true.

00:40:37.000 And they're trying to get you canceled. 1.00

00:40:39.000 Fuck Adam Curry! 1.00

00:40:40.000 But the game... 1.00

00:40:41.000 Well, there you go.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 So the...

00:40:44.000 The object is no longer communicating something that could make a difference to people's lives, not in that game.

00:40:50.000 That's now moving elsewhere.

00:40:51.000 Podcast is still a big part of that.

00:40:53.000 Podcast, and they're coming for us.

00:40:54.000 They're coming for podcasts.

00:40:56.000 Although I've shored it up with Podcasting 2.0.

00:40:59.000 Is this a pitch for Podcasting 2.0? 0.99

00:41:01.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

00:41:02.000 Get a modern podcast app at newpodcastapps.com. 0.99

00:41:07.000 I think there's always going to be a way that they...

00:41:10.000 There's always going to be... 0.97

00:41:11.000 Like, the tech people are too fucking smart. 0.99

00:41:13.000 The people like yourself and the people that are deeply involved in, like, all the sneaky web shit, they're too smart to just let... 0.99

00:41:22.000 Someone have full, complete control over everyone's ability to podcast. 0.89

00:41:27.000 Even though Twitter and a lot of these places have done a pretty fucking good job of silencing a lot of people, you're starting to see these new platforms emerge.

00:41:37.000 All over the place.

00:41:38.000 And I think there's going to be more of them in the future.

00:41:40.000 We have to realize that YouTube's only like, how many years old?

00:41:42.000 13 years old or something?

00:41:44.000 But also, here's what's changed.

00:41:45.000 It doesn't matter.

00:41:46.000 Being the biggest audience, having the biggest outside of what you're doing really doesn't matter anymore.

00:41:52.000 Because you have an audience that you built this organically. 0.97

00:41:56.000 This is not some algo fucking view and you're doing, you know, four-minute clips or some shit like that. 0.94

00:42:01.000 And, you know, your cover art is... 0.96

00:42:04.000 One of those things.

00:42:06.000 You could look at all the YouTube videos to get attention to make you click on it.

00:42:10.000 You know, a shocking thing happened.

00:42:12.000 So, what is important now is people are able to assemble themselves in their own platforms, kind of back to what the internet was when it was completely decentralized.

00:42:25.000 This is a part of the same movement.

00:42:26.000 Hey, we're going to talk about Healthy living, and we don't need to be the loudest voice on Twitter.

00:42:32.000 People who are interested, they can come over here and they can hang out with us. 0.99

00:42:35.000 And everyone's welcome to come in, and if we decide you're a piece of shit, we're going to kick you out. 0.99

00:42:40.000 And then those tribes, they start to intersect, and now the technology exists for them to share between each other. 1.00

00:42:47.000 That's what Jack Dorsey's doing with Blue Sky.

00:42:50.000 What is Blue Sky?

00:42:51.000 It'll be basically that.

00:42:53.000 You can have your own Twitter for your own community, and it will be able to federate, so interact with other communities, but you have control over what community comes in and can communicate with you.

00:43:04.000 I did not know Dorsey was going to start a new social media app.

00:43:07.000 Is it a new social media app?

00:43:09.000 It has nothing to do with Twitter?

00:43:11.000 Because he's free.

00:43:12.000 That's been going for a while.

00:43:13.000 I think that's something he's been building on the side.

00:43:15.000 Right, but it's not Twitter.

00:43:18.000 It may use protocols similar to Twitter.

00:43:21.000 I hope it's more protocols of Mastodon and ActivityPub, which would be open source.

00:43:27.000 This is going to be a controversial thing to say, but I'm going to say it.

00:43:29.000 I think you cannot ask for a better guy.

00:43:32.000 If you could keep him, and people say, well, that's crazy, look what they did at Twitter.

00:43:35.000 I'm telling you, that guy wants it to be a free speech platform.

00:43:41.000 But those things are insanely complicated, and when you're dealing with a corporation, He wanted to have too many people that are telling you what to do.

00:43:51.000 There's too many minds that are coming together on these things.

00:43:55.000 When something's as big as Twitter, I don't know how much say he had, but I guarantee you there was a lot of other people who had a say as well.

00:44:01.000 Whereas if he can start something and do what he initially wanted to do, what he initially wanted to do with Twitter is to literally create a separate wing, like to create a Wild West wing, or there would be like regular Twitter that's like, you know, you get this sort of curated Corporate controlled message because anything that gets out of line they're ban your account right or Wild West Twitter and say you could do everything but dox people and threaten violence so I Like Jack Dorsey.

00:44:28.000 I like I like the moves he's made the context is that he was really running a I think he clearly saw decentralization a long time ago.

00:44:55.000 I mean, Twitter started as a podcast platform.

00:44:58.000 So he understood decentralization by default.

00:45:01.000 How did it start as a podcast podcast?

00:45:02.000 It was called Odeo, initially.

00:45:05.000 And it was really cool.

00:45:06.000 I had a pod show at the time, and they were coming out with...

00:45:11.000 You could manage your podcast.

00:45:13.000 The ones you were listening to, you could also create it.

00:45:16.000 It was done in Flash at the time, which is kind of the hot technology.

00:45:19.000 It's called Odeo.

00:45:20.000 I did not know that was Twitter.

00:45:22.000 And then they pivoted, and they took, I think, the basic RSS concept.

00:45:26.000 You know, Twitter had a whole...

00:45:28.000 There was a technical progression, if you remember the fail whale.

00:45:31.000 So they had to really re-architect the whole platform to manage the growth they had, because they kind of went off of...

00:45:38.000 It was just no way to do it in the RSS fashion, to make it fast enough. 0.96

00:45:41.000 And that's what exploded.

00:45:44.000 So Odeo just pivoted into Twitter, and it was phenomenal to watch.

00:45:51.000 But when he came back to run Twitter, that was really 10% of his time.

00:45:55.000 And you think that people in America are bitching about kicking off Marjorie Taylor Greene? 0.99

00:46:02.000 How about the president of fucking Zimbabwe who's on the phone screaming at you because he won't censor this asshole or that? 0.99

00:46:10.000 There's no winning to that job. 1.00

00:46:12.000 No winning at all.

00:46:14.000 And I think he also knows that it's over, that the social media, that people are going to start moving away from it.

00:46:21.000 He sees the decentralization, so he was ready to jettison out.

00:46:26.000 I mean, I've had like one DM with him, that's it, and I've just observed from a distance.

00:46:31.000 I think he'll be a very important player in the true decentralized world that we're moving into, which we've been moving into for probably 15, 20 years.

00:46:43.000 It seems like for social media apps, that's the only way you're ever going to achieve any kind of balance.

00:46:49.000 But my concern is that they never get a chance.

00:46:52.000 Like when a new social media app starts, one of the things that first happens is immediately people start labeling it a right-wing alternative.

00:47:00.000 That's like the immediate...

00:47:01.000 That's the slam that it gets hit with as quickly as possible.

00:47:06.000 And then when you observe some of those places, I don't want to name names, but some of these new ones that start up and you see that there's like all this...

00:47:13.000 Right-wing activity.

00:47:14.000 You get a bunch of stuff.

00:47:16.000 You get, like, your basic patriot stuff, the people that have the American flag.

00:47:19.000 They don't say anything too outrageous.

00:47:21.000 Sometimes they're shocked by certain political decisions.

00:47:24.000 But then you see, like, outrageous people.

00:47:27.000 Over-the-top people. 1.00

00:47:28.000 People that are just, they sound like they're fucking insane. 0.99

00:47:32.000 They're saying all these different people are criminals and they should be court-martialed and they get real aggressive. 0.99

00:47:38.000 And you go, how many of those are real folks?

00:47:42.000 Here's my question. 0.99

00:47:43.000 What the fuck are you doing there in the first place? 1.00

00:47:46.000 Who cares? 1.00

00:47:47.000 No, no, no.

00:47:48.000 Are you looking?

00:47:48.000 Yes, I'm looking at it for work.

00:47:50.000 What are you looking for?

00:47:50.000 I'm a social studies professor.

00:47:52.000 Not just you, not just you.

00:47:53.000 Of course.

00:47:54.000 I teach at a community college.

00:47:55.000 I'm also a conspiracy therapist, Joe Rogan, so we're in good company.

00:48:03.000 What is the point?

00:48:05.000 Trying to get pissed off.

00:48:07.000 I'm a comedian.

00:48:08.000 Right.

00:48:09.000 So that's fine. 1.00

00:48:10.000 And so people are wasting their fucking life away. 1.00

00:48:13.000 If you're interested in some shit about food, go find that community. 1.00

00:48:17.000 It's going to be a forum. 0.99

00:48:18.000 It may be a Mastodon server.

00:48:20.000 You'll find it.

00:48:21.000 Go participate in that.

00:48:22.000 People have to break free of...

00:48:24.000 The dopamine hits.

00:48:26.000 That's what's going on.

00:48:27.000 It's the drug.

00:48:28.000 It's the outrage. 1.00

00:48:29.000 It's all that shit that go bing, bing, bing. 1.00

00:48:31.000 Ah, fuck. 1.00

00:48:31.000 And I get it. 1.00

00:48:32.000 And I love it sometimes, but I'm a responsible drug user.

00:48:35.000 It's also important.

00:48:36.000 It's important to understand because it's a real factor.

00:48:39.000 And this is how I'm looking at it.

00:48:41.000 When I'm looking at these people arguing on these new social media platforms about which of the congressmen that are sitting in this video is the bigger traitor and which one should spend the most time in jail.

00:48:54.000 Looking at just the way they talk about stuff. 0.77

00:48:57.000 I just always go, okay, it might be a real hardcore person who's a right winger or it might be a Russian troll.

00:49:03.000 And that's what's fascinating, because I know that there's hundreds of thousands of them out there. 0.55

00:49:08.000 They have troll farms. 0.96

00:49:09.000 They set these things up, and they just purposely try to fuck with our perceptions and our arguments about things. 0.92

00:49:17.000 They purposely try, and I'm not saying that this is responsible for all of it, but I'm saying that they recognize how goofy we are, and they attack, and they're doing this all the time, and they're getting us to fight, and they're getting us to be argumentative.

00:49:29.000 And here's what we're missing.

00:49:30.000 So while all this is going on, The United States, in my opinion, put us very close on the brink of some kind of war.

00:49:39.000 With a move that has not been reported, poorly reported, no one really understands it, and that's Kazakhstan.

00:49:48.000 Have you heard about Kazakhstan?

00:49:50.000 I don't know what's going on in Kazakhstan.

00:49:52.000 There was a revolution overnight, and the government resigned, and the people took over, and the reason was, well, we're not really sure.

00:50:00.000 We think it's because the price of gas doubled overnight, maybe because people are tired of QR codes and mandates, but this was really a color revolution.

00:50:10.000 When did this happen?

00:50:12.000 A week ago, maybe.

00:50:14.000 This has been building.

00:50:15.000 But here's what's important. 0.99

00:50:19.000 I think we both can agree that President Biden ain't running shit. 0.98

00:50:24.000 Someone in probably more State Department level has done... 0.98

00:50:30.000 What are you looking at?

00:50:31.000 Look at this title. 0.99

00:50:33.000 Kazakhstan President gives shoot-to-kill order against protesters. 0.88

00:50:36.000 So let me explain. 0.71

00:50:37.000 This is what I think is happening.

00:50:39.000 For months now, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

00:50:43.000 Putin, come on into Ukraine.

00:50:44.000 And you know what the deal is there is that we want to put our...

00:50:47.000 Anti-aircraft missiles in Ukraine, and the Russians want to put their S-400 anti-aircraft missiles in Ukraine.

00:50:54.000 They don't want NATO or the U.S. or anybody fucking with it. 0.78

00:50:57.000 And this administration in particular, they're a bunch of Russiaphobes, and it may go back from the 60s. 0.95

00:51:05.000 There's a lot of people with a big hard-on towards Putin and Russia, and it has to be war with this guy come hell or high water, even if by proxy. 0.96

00:51:13.000 So this attention has been on Ukraine and then unbelievably, all of a sudden we have almost to the T the playbook that they did in Ukraine, Victoria Nuland, fuck the EU, I don't know if you know any of this stuff. 0.90

00:51:26.000 That was basically, we led that whole change.

00:51:29.000 That's pretty well documented.

00:51:31.000 John McCain was a big part of it.

00:51:33.000 John Kerry, it's just, it was crazy.

00:51:36.000 Biden as well, big part of that.

00:51:39.000 So this now happened in Kazakhstan, which is on the exact opposite side of Russia. 0.56

00:51:43.000 So now Putin, who has 100,000 troops, he has to haul ass because now he's got a real hot situation on his hand.

00:51:50.000 And why is this important?

00:51:53.000 Jamie, can you bring up a map of Kazakhstan?

00:51:56.000 And this is, someone is playing really brilliant but very dangerous moves in the Biden administration.

00:52:03.000 Okay, so if you look at Kazakhstan, it is in between Russia and China.

00:52:11.000 And there's a, down below, there's above Kyrgyzstan, there's on the right, on the border, somewhere around there, Jamie, there's a town, it's called, I forget what it's called, and this is not helping these...

00:52:26.000 Anyway, the point is, this is where China is connecting their railroad system to Russia to go further into Europe.

00:52:39.000 This is the Belt and Road.

00:52:41.000 This is China's whole thing. 0.98

00:52:43.000 This is also where pipelines are going to be for Russia to send their natural resources to China. 0.99

00:52:49.000 And the Biden administration or someone running the show just stopped that shit. 0.99

00:52:54.000 They just stop that dead in their tracks. 0.99

00:52:56.000 And this is a huge problem for China, for Russia.

00:52:59.000 But also, don't look at Ukraine.

00:53:01.000 Who knows?

00:53:02.000 We may be sneaking in the rockets as we speak.

00:53:04.000 Someone's doing something really nasty.

00:53:06.000 And so, we've been distracted by a lot of stuff.

00:53:09.000 And this is happening.

00:53:11.000 Jesus Christ.

00:53:12.000 Yeah.

00:53:14.000 It'll be okay, Joe.

00:53:15.000 I don't know.

00:53:15.000 You're shocked.

00:53:17.000 No, no, no.

00:53:18.000 It might not be.

00:53:18.000 You know, when I was talking to Oliver Stone the other day, we were talking about his- Whoa!

00:53:23.000 I wanted to pick that up.

00:53:24.000 I love that.

00:53:25.000 It's on a podcast.

00:53:26.000 But I just love how you said it.

00:53:27.000 Oh.

00:53:28.000 When I was talking to Oliver Stone the other day.

00:53:30.000 I was trying to give him credit for what we're saying. 1.00

00:53:33.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:53:34.000 Sorry. 1.00

00:53:34.000 Maybe forget what I was going to say. 1.00

00:53:35.000 I fucked you on that, didn't I? What we were just talking about. 0.99

00:53:38.000 Kazakhstan.

00:53:39.000 China, Russia, railway, pipelines.

00:53:41.000 Well, I lost it.

00:53:42.000 Gosh, I'm so sorry.

00:53:43.000 That's okay.

00:53:44.000 My poor attempted humor fucked up your train of thought. 1.00

00:53:46.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:53:48.000 Well, he was probably talking about how the American government does all kinds of crazy shit and is responsible for a lot of murder and destruction. 1.00

00:53:55.000 Oh, this is what it was. 0.99

00:53:55.000 He said we were really close to nuclear war during the Kennedy administration. 0.99

00:54:01.000 Sure.

00:54:01.000 And that there was multiple plays on both Cuba and there was ideas about going to nuclear war with Russia, losing possibly 30 to 40 million people.

00:54:11.000 And we were talking about Dr. Strangelove.

00:54:13.000 That's what it was.

00:54:14.000 So in Dr. Strangelove, there's a general that sounds completely absurd. 1.00

00:54:17.000 He's out of his fucking mind. 1.00

00:54:18.000 He's a lunatic. 1.00

00:54:19.000 Get him out of here. 1.00

00:54:20.000 He's talking about surviving a first-strike nuclear attack, like that we could do a first-strike and we would probably survive, might lose Chicago, that kind of shit. 1.00

00:54:27.000 That was a real person. 0.98

00:54:29.000 There were real people that were actually considering us going to war with China and Russia and just getting it over with.

00:54:35.000 Because we're eventually going to have to do it later.

00:54:37.000 And so they wanted to do that and they wanted to do it with Cuba as well.

00:54:41.000 And when you think about what's happening in this country right now where, you know, there was Kennedy back then.

00:54:48.000 And Kennedy was the guy who was vetoing things and saying, no, we're not going to do that.

00:54:52.000 We're going to send envoys to Vietnam. 0.98

00:54:57.000 We're not sending any more troops.

00:54:58.000 Like he had some ideas that a lot of the people in the military industrial complex weren't happy with.

00:55:03.000 There's no one like that now.

00:55:08.000 What kind of relationship do you think Biden has with control as the president?

00:55:14.000 Oh, okay.

00:55:15.000 Well, zero.

00:55:15.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:55:16.000 I think most, if not all, of what we're living through right now is a financial issue.

00:55:21.000 It's not a health issue.

00:55:23.000 Of course it is, but the real issue is a financial issue.

00:55:27.000 And what's come to bear, in my opinion, and this is kind of recent information, is that, you know, the 2008-2009 housing crisis.

00:55:37.000 That was...

00:55:39.000 Fixed by printing a shitload of money, trillions of dollars, and pushing it off into...

00:55:44.000 Very difficult to explain how the financial system works.

00:55:47.000 I'm not qualified, but I do understand in general lines what's happened.

00:55:51.000 That's now come to bear.

00:55:53.000 Someone has to pay the piper.

00:55:55.000 And it kind of happens in central bank-controlled economies, which is what we have with the Federal Reserve.

00:56:01.000 So it's a bunch of banks that really We manage our money.

00:56:05.000 They create it.

00:56:06.000 They spend it.

00:56:07.000 They do all kinds of stuff with it.

00:56:08.000 We borrow from them.

00:56:09.000 It's a very convoluted system.

00:56:14.000 Now I've lost my train of thought.

00:56:17.000 That's not fair. 1.00

00:56:18.000 It's that L.A. weed, bitch. 1.00

00:56:20.000 Come on, Jamie. 1.00

00:56:20.000 Where was I? Convoluted system. 1.00

00:56:23.000 Right, the convolution.

00:56:24.000 Ah, okay.

00:56:25.000 So the balance sheet is out of whack, and it can jeopardize everything.

00:56:30.000 We could have a crash of epic proportions.

00:56:32.000 And it happens about every 10 years.

00:56:35.000 If you think about all the crises we have, so we had- 2008. 2008. Then before that, we had 2001, 9-11.

00:56:43.000 We had 87 before that.

00:56:45.000 There's been all these crashes.

00:56:46.000 Around 10 years, kind of, the system has to reset.

00:56:49.000 But it's compounding. 0.96

00:56:51.000 Our national debt, which is all just kind of fictional shit, is probably quadrillions, really. 0.97

00:56:56.000 But it doesn't matter. 0.97

00:56:58.000 Why do you think that...

00:56:59.000 But wait for it.

00:57:01.000 2019, just before the outbreak of the Wuhan flu at the time, as we jokingly called it.

00:57:09.000 There was a huge problem with interbank lending, and how that works is irrelevant, but as we now know, because that information just came out two weeks ago, JPMorgan, Chase, Morgan Stanley,

00:57:24.000 Citibank, and Goldman Sachs collectively borrowed $11.7 trillion just before the pandemic started. 0.69

00:57:33.000 When the Wall Street shit happened in 2008, 2009, it was about $8 trillion. 0.99

00:57:39.000 And something was fucked up in the system. 0.99

00:57:41.000 Then it melted down. 0.98

00:57:43.000 Here, they melted down the economy by shutting everybody down. 1.00

00:57:47.000 Shut that shit down. 1.00

00:57:49.000 And now... 1.00

00:57:51.000 We've got all this money coming into the system.

00:57:53.000 CARES Act, two trillion.

00:57:55.000 Just trillions and trillions of dollars that are just being created.

00:57:58.000 They need it to keep the whole system alive.

00:58:01.000 And that's why...

00:58:02.000 I'm getting confused here, though.

00:58:03.000 Are you thinking this is engineered?

00:58:05.000 Yeah, totally.

00:58:07.000 The whole thing, the shutdown of the economy, that it wasn't done to protect people, that it was done In my opinion, that part was done, that was needed one way or the other. 0.98

00:58:17.000 They could have done climate change, asteroids from space, I don't give a fuck. 0.98

00:58:20.000 They needed to shut it down. 0.98

00:58:22.000 They needed to stop the money flow to fix it and get more permission to print money to flood into the system.

00:58:29.000 There's too much on the banking side and not enough on the people side.

00:58:32.000 Go figure.

00:58:32.000 They've been stealing it.

00:58:34.000 So they had to give people money.

00:58:36.000 And that's what they did.

00:58:37.000 They printed stimulus checks in Texas today.

00:58:40.000 If you and I start a consulting company, which is to motivate people to get vaccinated, we can get a grant of up to one million dollars.

00:58:49.000 What?

00:58:50.000 Yes! 1.00

00:58:51.000 This is how much money there is for this shit. 1.00

00:58:53.000 And that goes into the system. 1.00

00:58:55.000 And that's what they needed to balance out this complete piece of crap. 0.96

00:58:59.000 Now, is that gonna work? 0.99

00:59:01.000 I mean, I'm...

00:59:01.000 But here's the question.

00:59:03.000 Do you think that it was engineered up until the point of releasing a virus?

00:59:06.000 How far do you go with this?

00:59:08.000 That's hard to say.

00:59:09.000 I mean, maybe it was just a virus and it was made worse.

00:59:12.000 I mean, they had drilled, they had practiced for this, so they could trigger muscle memory with the people who were in the Vent 201 drills and everything.

00:59:21.000 That's not that hard to do.

00:59:24.000 You know, and then, well, interestingly, I feel Dr. Malone didn't do a good job of explaining mass formation.

00:59:33.000 He didn't?

00:59:34.000 No.

00:59:35.000 No, he didn't.

00:59:36.000 I thought it was awesome.

00:59:37.000 No, he missed a very important part of it.

00:59:40.000 Because it went kind of straight to Hitler.

00:59:43.000 And that's not what mass formation is.

00:59:45.000 Well, he was just trying to give the worst case example in recent memory.

00:59:49.000 But we have an example right now.

00:59:51.000 Okay.

00:59:51.000 And that's what makes it interesting.

00:59:53.000 It's not actually called mass formation psychosis.

00:59:56.000 It's just mass formation.

00:59:59.000 The psychosis part is really not what the thesis is.

01:00:02.000 And this is from Professor De Smet, who is from Belgium.

01:00:05.000 I lived in Belgium.

01:00:07.000 I speak fluent Flemish and Dutch.

01:00:08.000 Who was his first name again?

01:00:09.000 Mattias.

01:00:10.000 Mattias.

01:00:10.000 Matt.

01:00:11.000 Mattias.

01:00:11.000 So I've had personal contact with him, but I have studied his pitch, so I understand what it is.

01:00:18.000 If you have four elements in society, which is dissatisfaction with your meaning, just in general, what piece of shit job do I have? 0.98

01:00:28.000 If there's depression, a lot of people depressed, a lot of people on SSRIs. 0.99

01:00:33.000 If there's a free-floating anxiety, which is, oh my god, we've got this virus, what the fuck is it?

01:00:42.000 And then you add isolation to it, which even though we're online and everything, someone not going to the office, sitting at home with two kids in a two-bedroom apartment, trying to work remotely can feel very isolated.

01:00:55.000 At that moment, mass formation can occur when a solution is delivered.

01:01:02.000 And then everyone goes into a hypnotic state, and the solution was social distancing.

01:01:07.000 The solution was masking.

01:01:08.000 The solution was wash your hands.

01:01:10.000 The solution is vaccine.

01:01:12.000 And this hypnotic state, this is where it gets important, is as powerful, Dr. Malone said that correctly, as what they do in operating rooms when someone is allergic to anesthesia.

01:01:22.000 They can hypnotize you with the same mechanism so you can get cut while you're not anesthetized.

01:01:27.000 Really?

01:01:28.000 But most importantly, the leaders, the politicians, they are also in the same hypnotic state.

01:01:36.000 And they get myopic. 0.96

01:01:37.000 And like Australia, they get completely irrational and nuts. 1.00

01:01:41.000 So it doesn't lead to a dictatorship like Hitler.

01:01:45.000 It leads to totalitarianism. 0.99

01:01:47.000 And it's fucking lawless. 0.99

01:01:49.000 And it's just going to be... 0.99

01:01:49.000 And look at what's happening. 0.99

01:01:51.000 We've got people doing smashing grabs in Gucci.

01:01:53.000 We've got a lot of stuff going on.

01:01:56.000 So...

01:01:57.000 What I'm loving right now is that there's a mechanism in place that is waking people up from this.

01:02:04.000 And many people may have heard this.

01:02:07.000 People who have been double vaccinated, boosted, have followed all the rules, wear the mask, you know, whatever.

01:02:13.000 They get Omicron.

01:02:15.000 They feel shame.

01:02:18.000 Have you heard of Innis?

01:02:19.000 No.

01:02:20.000 People feel ashamed.

01:02:22.000 And like, oh my god, I can't believe it.

01:02:24.000 I did everything I was told to do.

01:02:26.000 Everything and I still got it.

01:02:28.000 I'm so ashamed.

01:02:29.000 And some people wake up and go, hey, wait a minute. 1.00

01:02:33.000 What the fuck am I ashamed for? 0.98

01:02:35.000 I did everything right. 0.99

01:02:35.000 And by the way, here I am. 0.99

01:02:37.000 They're waking up from it, and they're now looking around, and now they're seeing all the other stuff that's happening collectively.

01:02:44.000 We're in a very bad state right now, and that's mass formation, and we're in it. 0.99

01:02:50.000 And we can be in it for all kinds of reasons, but when the lockdown happened, that...

01:02:55.000 Opened up opportunity.

01:02:56.000 Look at it right there.

01:02:58.000 Washington Post.

01:02:59.000 Thousands who followed the rules are about to get COVID. They shouldn't be ashamed.

01:03:03.000 Mm-hmm.

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 They shouldn't.

01:03:06.000 They shouldn't.

01:03:07.000 Of course not.

01:03:07.000 They shouldn't.

01:03:08.000 We should stop thinking about fault and start looking at the raw facts.

01:03:13.000 When you've got that woman, what is her name?

01:03:15.000 That voice of doom on CNN, medical lady. 0.92

01:03:19.000 When...

01:03:20.000 Oh, Lena Wen.

01:03:21.000 Lena Wen.

01:03:21.000 Yeah.

01:03:22.000 She was saying...

01:03:23.000 She's the voice of doom.

01:03:24.000 She was saying that cloth masks are little more than facial decorations.

01:03:28.000 Yeah.

01:03:28.000 She was saying that they don't work on respiratory viruses.

01:03:31.000 She blew the marketing. 1.00

01:03:33.000 She blew the marketing. 1.00

01:03:34.000 She said it more than once.

01:03:35.000 Yeah.

01:03:35.000 But they let her.

01:03:37.000 Possibly.

01:03:38.000 But do you think that that's possibly just setting up the narrative that we're getting in new science, and we're starting to understand, to try to realize that people are not going to take masks forever, so that you're going to try to detox us slowly from masks.

01:03:51.000 Slowly but surely, get the message out there that they're not necessary, they don't really do anything anymore.

01:03:57.000 Just get vaccinated.

01:03:58.000 Everybody, myself included at this very moment, is trying to create a narrative.

01:04:04.000 Yeah.

01:04:04.000 I'm going to be very open about it.

01:04:06.000 Of course.

01:04:06.000 This is very important, and this is a good place to do it.

01:04:10.000 And it's great because it's a podcast, it's independent. 0.92

01:04:15.000 When someone needs to go do this shit on mainstream television, you always have to be introduced as former FBI, former CIA, intelligence work, you know, whatever the shit, and you do your spiel in a minute and 30 seconds, and you hope that that sticks. 0.98

01:04:28.000 That doesn't work anymore. 0.99

01:04:29.000 Right.

01:04:29.000 So now there's long form.

01:04:31.000 People can listen. 0.65

01:04:32.000 People aren't stupid. 0.99

01:04:33.000 They're not stupid. 0.98

01:04:35.000 I'm a disc jockey. 0.98

01:04:36.000 I can figure stuff out.

01:04:38.000 I can recite a psychological thesis.

01:04:41.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 So this is the kind of stuff we have to move to.

01:04:47.000 This is what's scary to me about the way things are going.

01:04:50.000 Every decision seems to compound the problem further as if it's on purpose.

01:04:57.000 When you hear that people that are in government And even some folks that have at least some control over law enforcement don't think that crime is a problem. 0.99

01:05:10.000 There's a fucking letter. 0.99

01:05:12.000 There's a letter that a friend of mine, I won't say where, lives in. 1.00

01:05:17.000 One of his friends is a cop. 0.94

01:05:18.000 And they sent him a letter of all the new guidelines, and these guys are passing around because they can't fucking believe it.

01:05:23.000 Like what you're allowed to arrest people for, what you're not allowed to arrest people for, what you have to let people go for. 0.98

01:05:27.000 And they've eliminated a lot of fucking crime.

01:05:31.000 And this whole idea of having at $1,000, anything more than $1,000 you can get prosecuted for. 0.97

01:05:38.000 $950.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 That's nuts.

01:05:39.000 Well, here's the problem, and my buddy Mo predicted this, and I think, unfortunately, he's right.

01:05:46.000 So, this recent trial of ex-officer Potter, who killed a guy, she thought she was reaching for her taser, yelled taser, shot him.

01:05:59.000 So, in Hill Country, there's a lot of, you know, service people up there.

01:06:03.000 And my buddy Mike...

01:06:06.000 He was considering going back into the police department, because he was there for a long time, and he quit for a little bit, and he was like, I want to go back, I want to serve again.

01:06:18.000 And after that trial happened, he said, I'm not going to do it, because No one's got your back.

01:06:23.000 And there's no way for you to police effectively because if you have to have in the back of your mind, that's what training is.

01:06:30.000 We always had kind of this secret agreement like, hey, if it happens, like with military accidentally killing civilians, you know...

01:06:39.000 Yeah.

01:06:59.000 Because we have the mechanism to lock you down now.

01:07:02.000 We know where you are.

01:07:03.000 You should be quarantining.

01:07:05.000 You're quarantining for 15 years now in your house.

01:07:08.000 There you go.

01:07:12.000 And why?

01:07:13.000 And is that one single entity?

01:07:15.000 Or do multiple things work in concert?

01:07:18.000 Or am I just hallucinating?

01:07:19.000 Is it a simulation?

01:07:20.000 I don't know, but that's what I see.

01:07:22.000 Well, first of all, that one situation where that lady pulled out the gun instead of the taser and shot that guy, people think that that can't happen.

01:07:31.000 You have never been in a situation where it's life or death, first of all.

01:07:36.000 Because people freak the fuck out, and they go reptile, and they have no idea what they're doing.

01:07:40.000 And they don't realize until after it's over, and then they try to piece it together in their memory. 0.95

01:07:44.000 When you're in a violent situation with a person where you think you've got to tase them, and you're a woman?

01:07:48.000 Here's another thing.

01:07:49.000 Well, this is what my buddy said.

01:07:51.000 This is the thing about cops.

01:07:53.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:07:54.000 This is not just about women, because there's a lot of women who can do it and handle themselves, but you should be able to fucking handle yourself if you're going to be a cop, period. 1.00

01:08:00.000 When you see a lot of these cops that are small people with no physical ability to restrain someone and no martial arts background, whether it's a small man or a small woman, that's crazy. 0.98

01:08:12.000 That's what my buddy said.

01:08:13.000 He says, forgive me for saying this, but women shouldn't be on the street. 1.00

01:08:17.000 I don't think that's all women. 0.99

01:08:18.000 I'm just telling you the general feeling.

01:08:21.000 Of course, there's some kick-ass women he works with. 1.00

01:08:25.000 But in general, you've got someone who's on meth or some crazy shit. 0.99

01:08:29.000 You have no idea what comes out of a dude. 0.97

01:08:32.000 Right.

01:08:32.000 That's insane.

01:08:33.000 You should be strong as fuck and you should be really well trained and I think, you know, ideally you would want it to be like an elite soldier. 0.99

01:08:41.000 That's what you would want out of a cop. 0.99

01:08:43.000 And through that you would get more disciplined too.

01:08:45.000 You get people that are more disciplined.

01:08:47.000 Because there's a lot of these people that they get these jobs like who had a bit about that?

01:08:51.000 Someone had a bit about it.

01:08:53.000 About growing up with cops. 0.99

01:08:55.000 Fucking who was that? 0.99

01:08:58.000 Whoever it was. 0.99

01:09:00.000 They had a good bit about it.

01:09:01.000 About guys who were cops when they grew up.

01:09:04.000 I think it's Tim Dillon.

01:09:05.000 It's Tim Dillon.

01:09:06.000 That's who it is.

01:09:06.000 About guys who were cops when he was growing up.

01:09:09.000 Like the kind of guys who grew up with and then became cops.

01:09:11.000 It shouldn't be that way.

01:09:13.000 It should be a really well-respected job.

01:09:15.000 It's a very important job.

01:09:16.000 It used to be.

01:09:16.000 But somehow or another it stopped being that.

01:09:19.000 Whether it's through corruption or too much crime to deal.

01:09:22.000 Or just fatigue.

01:09:24.000 Literally by what we're discussing here.

01:09:26.000 Is put them on edge.

01:09:29.000 All these things now are no longer possible.

01:09:31.000 All these violations are possible.

01:09:33.000 We're shifting these rules.

01:09:35.000 And undeniable, I call it the Soros sisters, but we have all these district attorneys who were pretty much funded by...

01:09:42.000 I don't think it's George Soros.

01:09:43.000 I think it's his son, Alexander.

01:09:45.000 He's probably running the show now.

01:09:47.000 I believe that they have a mission to subvert America. 0.97

01:09:49.000 I think they don't love America.

01:09:51.000 They want to create lawlessness.

01:09:53.000 Because it's...

01:09:55.000 But this is a common conspiracy theory, air quotes, right?

01:10:00.000 But I've had it told to me by very credible people.

01:10:04.000 And the idea is that what one would do is one would, we don't want to accuse anybody, but if one wanted to do that, what one would do is they would fund a very, very progressive politician, district attorney, what have you.

01:10:17.000 Get him into office.

01:10:18.000 Then once they get him into office, then fund someone who's way to the left of him.

01:10:22.000 Fund him.

01:10:23.000 Push him.

01:10:24.000 Get him and push him out.

01:10:26.000 Fund the next one. 0.99

01:10:27.000 Make him even crazier.

01:10:28.000 Keep going. 0.55

01:10:29.000 And then get in people's heads that you have to defund the police.

01:10:33.000 You've got to say that.

01:10:34.000 Say, defund the police.

01:10:35.000 Make it a narrative.

01:10:36.000 We've got to defund the police.

01:10:37.000 Instead of retrain the police, instead of pay the money.

01:10:41.000 Imagine if we looked at our country's education system and said, we've got to defund the teachers.

01:10:46.000 That would be crazy.

01:10:47.000 You would never say that.

01:10:49.000 You'd be like, no, no, no.

01:10:49.000 They don't get paid enough.

01:10:51.000 This is crazy.

01:10:51.000 They're understaffed.

01:10:52.000 These rooms are too big.

01:10:53.000 What we need is more money that goes into education.

01:10:55.000 That's a general thing that, like, if you talk to rational people.

01:10:59.000 How's that worked out?

01:10:59.000 But if you talk to rational people, it was, like, A bunch of people that are paying attention and really care about kids' futures, that's what you'd say.

01:11:06.000 We need more money to educate these children.

01:11:08.000 The same thing you would say about cops.

01:11:10.000 If you have problems with cops, you should say, listen, we've got to rework this.

01:11:14.000 The idea of having no cops is so crazy.

01:11:17.000 And then the idea of defunding them is almost just as crazy because you take the cops that are still there and you neutralize them.

01:11:24.000 And this isn't exonerating anybody for any horrendous things that police brutality cases that we've all witnessed and we've all been terrified of and shocked by and infuriated by.

01:11:34.000 It's okay.

01:11:34.000 We can have a conversation.

01:11:36.000 It's fine.

01:11:37.000 But that doesn't have anything to do with where it could go.

01:11:40.000 Correct.

01:11:41.000 So look at how this comes to be.

01:11:44.000 It's the candidates who are put in and run at these local levels.

01:11:48.000 It's the mainstream media, how everything is positioned, the words, very important words.

01:11:54.000 Yeah.

01:11:54.000 Like defund the police, all these things.

01:11:56.000 These are narratives.

01:11:57.000 Where do they start?

01:11:58.000 Where does defund the police start?

01:11:59.000 Who's the first person to start saying that?

01:12:03.000 I couldn't say, but, you know, this goes all the way back to Black Lives Matter, Inc., as I consider it, not just Black Lives Matter movement.

01:12:11.000 But, you know, there's a...

01:12:13.000 Media is so prevalent now.

01:12:16.000 There is so much fighting for your attention, and little things catch and grab hold, and we live by that.

01:12:24.000 I mean, this Donald Trump will forever be in the history books as a horrible guy.

01:12:29.000 You know, God knows what they'll put on him with the The January 6th, you know, as worst.

01:12:34.000 I mean, what was that yesterday with the president and vice president?

01:12:37.000 That was insane. 0.99

01:12:39.000 That was so insane that they were comparing those dorks. 0.98

01:12:42.000 But that's writing a narrative. 0.95

01:12:44.000 It's not cute anymore.

01:12:46.000 It's not cute.

01:12:47.000 But let's just explain to people what that was, because a lot of people don't even know.

01:12:49.000 Jamie, pull up what the statement was.

01:12:52.000 Was it from the vice president that it goes down with, what did she say?

01:12:57.000 It went down with 9-11 and what was the other one?

01:13:00.000 Civil War.

01:13:01.000 The Civil War.

01:13:01.000 I have to say noagendashow.com because Dvorak will get so mad at me if I don't plug the show.

01:13:07.000 Noagendashow.com.

01:13:08.000 The only partner I'd ever want to work with.

01:13:10.000 He has nothing to fear.

01:13:11.000 He's always like, you're trying to work me out of the show. 0.99

01:13:14.000 There would be no fucking show. 0.99

01:13:16.000 He's one of those guys? 1.00

01:13:17.000 Nah.

01:13:17.000 What is the quote?

01:13:18.000 He's a good guy.

01:13:19.000 This is a complete insanity.

01:13:22.000 Look, January 6th was embarrassing. 1.00

01:13:25.000 It was pathetic. 0.98

01:13:26.000 It was confusing to me. 0.99

01:13:29.000 Because there's parts of it that confused me.

01:13:31.000 The parts where you have these clear agent provocateurs in the audience calling for people to go into the Capitol.

01:13:37.000 Eps.

01:13:38.000 Yeah.

01:13:39.000 Like, clear.

01:13:40.000 And then there's video of cops opening up barriers.

01:13:43.000 What is that?

01:13:44.000 Why did they do that?

01:13:45.000 Has there ever been an explanation of that?

01:13:47.000 Well, we really haven't seen, like, 10,000 hours of footage, which is, you know, held under lock and key, so we can't really know exactly, but...

01:13:54.000 You know what's interesting about...

01:13:56.000 What are you looking at here?

01:13:57.000 Okay, here it is.

01:14:12.000 Yeah, but you have to understand what that is.

01:14:18.000 This is a beautiful piece.

01:14:21.000 This is how it works.

01:14:22.000 I understand, but we have to read what people are listening to this.

01:14:24.000 They need to know what the whole statement was.

01:14:26.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:14:27.000 I got you.

01:14:27.000 Just let me get what she said out.

01:14:29.000 Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault.

01:14:40.000 She said, dates that occupy not only a place in our calendars, but a place in our collective memory.

01:14:44.000 December 7th, 1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021. That's insane.

01:14:51.000 That's an insane thing to say.

01:14:53.000 That is casting a spell.

01:14:55.000 This is neuro-linguistic programming.

01:14:57.000 Look at what it actually says.

01:14:59.000 It says, she's telling the world and the American public certain dates echo throughout history.

01:15:06.000 She is building a frame.

01:15:07.000 When you hear 9-11, you see smoke, airplanes, buildings, mayhem.

01:15:12.000 You see Pearl Harbor.

01:15:14.000 That has now been put into your head.

01:15:17.000 This is mind control.

01:15:18.000 It's not novel, but that's exactly what it is.

01:15:21.000 I don't think it's working.

01:15:22.000 Well, I think it is working with a certain amount of people.

01:15:25.000 But listen, there's a lot of people, particularly people on the left, that want to discuss why Fox News is not talking about the January 6th anniversary, as if when that date repeats itself a year later, you have to bring this up.

01:15:41.000 Okay.

01:15:42.000 Let me tell you why this is happening, in my opinion.

01:15:45.000 Okay.

01:15:46.000 So, they're trying to, if they could, convict everybody who had anything to do with January 6th in any fashion whatsoever.

01:15:53.000 Now, this outfit called the Lawfare Group, they're the ones that, I think, wrote the whole strategy for Trump impeachment, maybe even for, you know, the Russia stuff, all of that. 0.98

01:16:04.000 It's a group of very, you know, Democratic fund, it's a huge law collective, really, really smart fucking people. 0.61

01:16:11.000 They are now trying to mount a case against these insurrectionists using Sarbanes-Oxley. 0.55

01:16:23.000 And Sarbanes-Oxley was a law that was put into place really to make sure that Enron never happened again.

01:16:29.000 And what is it they're trying to use?

01:16:31.000 It's some section there, 1519, I looked at it, I don't remember what it was.

01:16:36.000 It says, if you in any way are trying to hamper or kill or stop someone from official testimony, Then you can be arrested and go to jail for 20 years under Sarbanes-Oxley.

01:16:50.000 It was never intended for this situation, but that's what they're trying to do.

01:16:55.000 So that's why they want Sean Hannity's text message and all these people, because if you are any part of that, any part, I don't know if it'll fly, but if any part of that, you can fall under the statutes of this law They want to lock everybody up.

01:17:11.000 If someone didn't know that that happened, and that was going to happen, I don't think you can blame them for the actions of others that you say they influenced.

01:17:24.000 I don't think so either.

01:17:25.000 But let me finish.

01:17:26.000 Unless they say that, you know, I want you to do that, like that guy did, the agent provocateur.

01:17:34.000 I want you to do that.

01:17:35.000 I want you to go into that building.

01:17:36.000 I want you to go after those people.

01:17:38.000 I want you to take what's yours, that kind of talk.

01:17:40.000 But there is an influence.

01:17:43.000 So like, what responsibility does someone have if they do push an influence?

01:17:48.000 And not just that, not just talk about the Capitol Hill thing, But what about like the fake Russia story?

01:17:52.000 What about Russiagate?

01:17:53.000 What about the people that were pushing a narrative that changed the way people thought about corruption in government?

01:17:58.000 What about that?

01:17:59.000 How come that's not a big deal?

01:18:00.000 How come that all happened? 0.99

01:18:01.000 We know it's all bullshit and no one apologized. 0.96

01:18:04.000 How come we know that the version of it that we were told versus what actually was going on and that communications are kind of like common and on both sides and the Clinton campaign Communicated with them, too. 1.00

01:18:16.000 Like, who knows what the fuck they talked about? 0.99

01:18:17.000 But the idea that, like, this was this terrible thing that Russia had subverted our government and they had taken over through Donald Trump and he's some sort of a fucking, you know, undercover agent. 1.00

01:18:29.000 It was so dumb. 0.99

01:18:31.000 I feel like Trinity in the Matrix and you're Neo and you're just coming through this goo and I'm trying to hold you and love you and say, here we are. 0.99

01:18:40.000 This is the reality of it all.

01:18:42.000 We're living in a media simulation.

01:18:46.000 That's it.

01:18:46.000 It's something weird.

01:18:48.000 It's certainly something weird because...

01:18:50.000 I just give in to it.

01:18:50.000 But, you know, let's talk about what we talked about earlier, just the overdose deaths.

01:18:55.000 The number is so staggering.

01:18:57.000 100,000 last year.

01:18:58.000 It's the number one killer of people 18 to 49, but you're not seeing it all over the news.

01:19:02.000 Why are you not seeing it all over the news?

01:19:04.000 Why isn't this massive loss of life a front-page story on CNN every day?

01:19:08.000 You know why that is, because the number one advertiser of all...

01:19:12.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

01:19:14.000 Exactly.

01:19:16.000 That's how it's controlled.

01:19:17.000 That's capture.

01:19:18.000 That's total capture.

01:19:19.000 That's capture.

01:19:20.000 Now, one thing that I heard that's very promising is that CNN plans on going to straight news now.

01:19:27.000 John Malone, I think John Malone, he's now buying CNN. And that's why I think we're seeing a lot of changes.

01:19:36.000 He hates the talent.

01:19:39.000 He hates what they're doing.

01:19:40.000 He doesn't think they're doing news anymore.

01:19:43.000 I think that's why, you know, hey, we get the Cuomo kid out.

01:19:48.000 People are auditioning.

01:19:50.000 You can see Jake Tapper trying to do a little pushback, kind of pushing back against the narrative.

01:19:56.000 People are jockeying for position there.

01:19:58.000 There's going to be a massive, massive shake-up.

01:20:00.000 And it may actually be good.

01:20:02.000 John Malone's a pretty serious dude. 0.99

01:20:04.000 He doesn't fuck around. 0.98

01:20:06.000 He may actually want to try and get back to news. 0.99

01:20:08.000 Keep Jake Tapper.

01:20:09.000 I like that guy.

01:20:12.000 He's a fair-weather friend.

01:20:13.000 I trust him.

01:20:14.000 He's a fair-weather friend.

01:20:15.000 Jake Tapper.

01:20:17.000 I have a video of his face when President Trump got elected.

01:20:21.000 It was on election night, we were at the Comedy Store, and I was in the comics bar, and Jake Tapper was doing a rundown of how President Trump had won the election. 1.00

01:20:31.000 And the look on his face was like, motherfucker. 0.99

01:20:34.000 You know he wanted to say something, but he couldn't say anything. 1.00

01:20:36.000 Friends of mine have a service business.

01:20:41.000 And they were serving a, legit, give me a face.

01:20:46.000 I believe you.

01:20:46.000 And they were serving, I think it was the assistant director of the CIA on his birthday at his house.

01:20:54.000 Serving what?

01:20:55.000 It was a party, so they were doing something related to the party.

01:21:00.000 Food stuff.

01:21:01.000 Just related to the party.

01:21:02.000 And they said, just in passing, they never told me not to talk about it, said it was really weird, like mostly CNN people were there, including Jake Tapper.

01:21:16.000 Like just hanging out on the guy's birthday.

01:21:19.000 Jeez.

01:21:20.000 Well, I guess if you want to keep working, that's what you do.

01:21:23.000 Well, but it just tells you everything, man.

01:21:26.000 We thought the old way was all legit and on the up and up. 0.99

01:21:32.000 It's not good for us really to know all this shit. 0.99

01:21:34.000 It's not. 0.99

01:21:35.000 It's not really that good.

01:21:36.000 But here's the thing we have to think of as humans.

01:21:39.000 Capitalism's not bad. 1.00

01:21:40.000 What's bad is this shit. 1.00

01:21:44.000 There's versions of capitalism that are great. 1.00

01:21:46.000 You want to buy something, you know it's a good company that makes it, the people get paid well, you buy it, you feel good, everybody's good.

01:21:52.000 Those things still exist. 0.95

01:21:53.000 The idea that they can exist, the idea that the only way to buy something is that it has to be made overseas in some fucking horrible conditions in a sweatshop. 0.65

01:22:02.000 That's the only way you could get it at a reasonable price here in America. 0.97

01:22:05.000 That's bananas.

01:22:08.000 It's not like it's impossible, it's not like they're using fairy dust over there. 0.99

01:22:11.000 Like, what the fuck are they doing? 0.98

01:22:12.000 Well, I'll tell you what they're doing. 0.99

01:22:13.000 They're getting people to work cheap.

01:22:14.000 So, it should cost a little more, and people should get paid better, and like, duh.

01:22:19.000 Like, it's such a simple formula, and we all would have clear consciences.

01:22:24.000 We all would know that if you're...

01:22:25.000 Like, if you used to buy a car in Detroit, you wanted to buy, like, a Corvette when they first started making them. 1.00

01:22:32.000 The fucking people made them. 0.99

01:22:33.000 Like, as soon as they had unions. 1.00

01:22:35.000 Those people were making good money.

01:22:36.000 They had houses. 1.00

01:22:37.000 They had a fucking boat by the lake. 0.99

01:22:39.000 It was a well-paid job. 0.99

01:22:42.000 And it felt good to buy something that was made there because you knew whether or not it's because you're patriotic, which is fine, or it's because if you know that you're giving another human being a good wage because you're buying something from a company that takes care of people.

01:22:56.000 That should be, like, one of our most important things we think of when we spend money.

01:23:00.000 Then I suggest you get the Fink on the show. 1.00

01:23:02.000 The Fink?

01:23:02.000 The Fink.

01:23:03.000 Larry Fink.

01:23:04.000 Sounds like you're calling him a queen.

01:23:05.000 I call him the Fink. 1.00

01:23:06.000 Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock.

01:23:09.000 Oh. 0.99

01:23:10.000 So you get him on the show and say, listen, motherfucker, you control 10% of the world's, all the world's wealth, $10 trillion in assets. 0.99

01:23:19.000 You actually manage the United States money. 0.99

01:23:24.000 The Federal Reserve money, you buy bonds and stocks and do that on our behalf.

01:23:28.000 We pay them.

01:23:29.000 Okay, they lose money.

01:23:30.000 So what?

01:23:30.000 They ride along.

01:23:31.000 You have all this control.

01:23:34.000 You are pushing ESG. We talked about that last time, environmental, social goals.

01:23:38.000 So you're making all these choices and you're kicking people off boards and you're using your influence. 0.98

01:23:44.000 Why the fuck are you doing it? 0.98

01:23:46.000 What's your point? 0.99

01:23:47.000 I think you just asked him.

01:23:49.000 Hopefully he'll respond via Instagram.

01:23:52.000 I'm at Adam Curry on Twitter.

01:23:56.000 Maybe he'll respond.

01:23:57.000 I don't know.

01:23:58.000 I'm not educated in that subject enough to ask any questions.

01:24:02.000 A lot of people who watch the Joe Rogan experience know exactly what I'm talking about.

01:24:06.000 No, I'm sure.

01:24:06.000 For sure.

01:24:07.000 If I had someone like that on, I would have to do a deep dive.

01:24:09.000 Oh, dude.

01:24:11.000 Hilarious.

01:24:12.000 It's not fun.

01:24:13.000 It's not fun when I think about deep dives on, you know, air quotes, evil.

01:24:18.000 Because I don't know if it's real.

01:24:19.000 I don't know how much of it's real.

01:24:20.000 But I know that throughout history, there have been enormous entities, whether they're armies or governments or religions, that have wrecked havoc on the human race.

01:24:30.000 Of course.

01:24:30.000 And you know how it always goes?

01:24:32.000 The people in control of the money, they start creating more of it or they start devaluing it in some other way.

01:24:38.000 Most recently, the Roman Empire, of course...

01:24:41.000 Less and less silver, less and less gold, clipping coins, and that's what always puts us into trouble, and that's exactly what's happening.

01:24:48.000 Yeah, and that's what I was going to say. 0.98

01:24:49.000 What I was going to say is, and if you don't think that can happen right now, you're crazy.

01:24:53.000 It's always happening, and we always have to fight against it.

01:24:57.000 When people think that, like, the idea of saying that freedom is important is a frivolous notion, you have to understand what you get when you don't have freedom.

01:25:05.000 Then other people have control of you.

01:25:07.000 Once people have control of you, they do bad things.

01:25:09.000 If you look at the places that have the most control over people, and Australia's one of them, because everyone's unarmed, because they took the guns away in the 90s when they had one mass shooting, they took everybody's guns away.

01:25:18.000 No, no, no, no.

01:25:18.000 First of all, not everyone's unarmed.

01:25:20.000 There are lots, but...

01:25:21.000 They didn't take them away.

01:25:22.000 They gave them voluntarily.

01:25:24.000 They went, oh yeah, okay.

01:25:26.000 That's fine.

01:25:27.000 They're unarmed though.

01:25:28.000 There's very few rifles.

01:25:29.000 Very few rifles that exist for hunting.

01:25:31.000 It's mostly unarmed people.

01:25:34.000 That's the difference.

01:25:35.000 And what they're doing over there is crazy.

01:25:36.000 They're imposing rules on these people.

01:25:39.000 They're ignoring science when it comes to whether or not you've recovered from it naturally because you got COVID. Should you be exempt from taking a vaccine?

01:25:48.000 No, it's like everybody needs the shot.

01:25:49.000 Like, what are you doing?

01:25:51.000 They're saying now three is the shot.

01:25:53.000 Oh, what's your number?

01:25:53.000 What's your number?

01:25:54.000 Four, five, six?

01:25:56.000 What's your number?

01:25:57.000 When does it stop?

01:25:58.000 It gets to this point where you're going, okay, would that be possible in a place where everybody was armed?

01:26:03.000 And I'm not saying people just rise up against government.

01:26:05.000 This is not what I'm saying.

01:26:06.000 What I'm saying is like the psychology of people where they have ultimate power over you because they have also, they have all the weapons.

01:26:13.000 Just from the, not even this, let's not even look at this scenario.

01:26:16.000 Let's look at just the psychological state of people that have absolute control over you and then they want to tell you what to do.

01:26:23.000 You know, there's some people that are bad parents.

01:26:25.000 They're like, go to your room! 0.99

01:26:26.000 Just shut up and go to your room. 0.95

01:26:28.000 They want the kid to just shut up and go to the room because they don't want to deal with it anymore. 0.99

01:26:31.000 Because they have the ultimate power over the kid.

01:26:32.000 And then the kid feels like this is a terrible relationship.

01:26:35.000 Like they don't want to listen to me.

01:26:36.000 I'm crying.

01:26:37.000 I didn't really mean to do it that way.

01:26:39.000 And you can't even talk to them.

01:26:40.000 Go to your room. 1.00

01:26:41.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:26:42.000 Go to your room. 1.00

01:26:42.000 That's some parents, right? 1.00

01:26:44.000 It's also some governments. 0.98

01:26:45.000 There's some governments that when they have the same kind of ultimate power that a parent has over a child, they're shitty government.

01:26:51.000 And they're mean, and they treat people as if they have to listen, and they treat people as if they're second-class citizens, and they know better than you, even though they're just human beings, they know better than you, and you're just gonna have to do this.

01:27:04.000 You're just gonna have to get used to doing this, because this is how we do things. 1.00

01:27:07.000 Like, hey no, fuck you! 1.00

01:27:09.000 You're just a person. 1.00

01:27:10.000 You shouldn't be telling all these other people who disagree how they have to and don't have to live their life.

01:27:15.000 How can you do that?

01:27:16.000 The only way.

01:27:17.000 You have to have ultimate power.

01:27:19.000 Ultimate power.

01:27:20.000 You have to be the only one who's armed.

01:27:21.000 You have to be the only one who gets to say.

01:27:23.000 You have to be stuck in this weird situation where you can change laws and change rules because there's an emergency.

01:27:29.000 Get away all sorts of protections that people have had in the past and then you never get them back.

01:27:34.000 I love you.

01:27:36.000 I love you too.

01:27:59.000 My two projects, I bring them together, brought them together, is podcasting that is protected and Bitcoin.

01:28:06.000 And I'm just on the Bitcoin train because I believe that my money is safer there.

01:28:12.000 I'm not talking about versus the US dollar.

01:28:15.000 Just in general, and I think that we will see that in our future as very protective for everything.

01:28:24.000 As they say, Bitcoin fixes this.

01:28:26.000 If you can fix the money, that's the broken part.

01:28:30.000 The money system is broken.

01:28:31.000 It causes the inflation.

01:28:33.000 It causes the misery. 1.00

01:28:34.000 It causes wars because it's linked to oil, so we have to go protect all that shit. 1.00

01:28:39.000 It's fucked up. 1.00

01:28:41.000 The dollar, I love America. 0.99

01:28:43.000 We used to have our own, the banks would create dollars. 0.52

01:28:47.000 They were promissory notes until this Federal Reserve Act came into play.

01:28:50.000 It was a takeover.

01:28:52.000 That's what Kennedy was talking about.

01:28:54.000 The power that is unspoken by man.

01:28:58.000 It's this banking system. 1.00

01:29:00.000 If we continue to be in that, we're just fucked. 0.98

01:29:03.000 Yeah, and I have a lot of hope for cryptocurrencies. 0.98

01:29:06.000 I really do.

01:29:07.000 I don't know too much about them, but Bitcoin seems to be the one in the Ethereum, the ones that the people who are in the know talk about the most.

01:29:15.000 And my point is that what we're seeing right now, it's either going to go one way or the other.

01:29:20.000 It's either going to fall apart completely, or we're going to use this as an opportunity to right the ship and come up with a better way to live our lives.

01:29:28.000 It's going to be one of the other.

01:29:29.000 The fundamental difference, just so I say it, because otherwise people beat me up, the difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum is Bitcoin, there will only be 21 million.

01:29:40.000 It cannot be changed.

01:29:41.000 It cannot be inflated.

01:29:43.000 You cannot say the same for Ethereum.

01:29:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:29:46.000 That's the main difference.

01:29:48.000 Also, there's no CEO of Bitcoin.

01:29:51.000 Oh, the CEO of Ethereum?

01:29:53.000 Well, if you look at the history of it, changes can be made.

01:29:57.000 And that's going to be a problem.

01:29:59.000 Once someone becomes king of the metaverse.

01:30:01.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:30:01.000 I love NFTs.

01:30:02.000 I've never done one.

01:30:03.000 I'm not interested in it.

01:30:04.000 But you kind of know how that works.

01:30:06.000 There's one from Beeple.

01:30:07.000 Well, there you go.

01:30:09.000 This is fulfilling Klaus Schwab's dream.

01:30:12.000 Is it?

01:30:13.000 Yes.

01:30:14.000 You will own nothing and you will be happy.

01:30:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:17.000 So you get an NFT, I own nothing, and I'm fucking happy. 0.96

01:30:21.000 You own everything you own, plus you own an NFT. It doesn't take away all your stuff. 0.71

01:30:25.000 No, you don't own it.

01:30:26.000 You don't own it.

01:30:27.000 It's beautiful.

01:30:27.000 I love it.

01:30:28.000 It's like baseball cards, only, you know, more crazy.

01:30:32.000 But you do.

01:30:33.000 Because it's a non-fungible token, Adam.

01:30:35.000 I know it is.

01:30:37.000 That's my thing now.

01:30:38.000 You nailed it.

01:30:39.000 Now, a buddy of mine, these entertainment companies, they're doing so much money in these NFTs on their intellectual property that they already have.

01:30:48.000 Even, was it Brian Cox, the guy from...

01:30:51.000 Sure.

01:30:52.000 Yeah, he's doing an NFT. He is?

01:30:53.000 I'm not allowed to say what it is, but yeah.

01:30:56.000 Lamborghini just announced this yesterday.

01:30:58.000 What?

01:30:59.000 Lamborghini is making an NFT. The physical company.

01:31:03.000 Why not? 0.99

01:31:04.000 Get those dummies to buy it. 0.99

01:31:05.000 Well, now, in the dream of the metaverse, the Silicon Valley-controlled metaverse, NFTs are going to be very, very important. 0.99

01:31:14.000 They'll all be with their own shit coin. 0.97

01:31:16.000 They'll be like whatever the meta coin will be. 0.98

01:31:21.000 And then you have really more the Ethereum crowd who are building their own decentralized metaverse.

01:31:26.000 But there when you have a cool outfit that is one of a kind, you can trade it with someone and you do that through an NFT. That's a very valid reason if you're into that.

01:31:36.000 Do you think the future will be companies will come up with a coin and then you have to purchase the company's products with that coin?

01:31:44.000 Let's say if Apple came up with its own coin, they seem to be one of the few companies that could easily do that, right?

01:31:49.000 If they decided to have an Apple coin...

01:31:51.000 No, that's...

01:31:52.000 And you'd buy all Apple products with Apple phones, Apple iMacs, and you just invest in...

01:31:57.000 Wait, what do you mean?

01:31:57.000 No.

01:31:57.000 Hold, please.

01:31:58.000 I'm going to tell you what it is.

01:31:59.000 Hold, please.

01:31:59.000 Let me finish.

01:32:00.000 You let people invest in being a part of the company.

01:32:03.000 So you buy coins, and through those coins, you can buy products, and you can invest a certain amount, and the coins go up, you actually make money, the coins go down, you lose money.

01:32:14.000 And as the company keeps doing better, it's almost like another version of stocks or something.

01:32:19.000 And you buy it all through that.

01:32:21.000 Is that possible?

01:32:22.000 Possible.

01:32:23.000 Now that you heard me all the way through.

01:32:24.000 Sorry.

01:32:24.000 Is that possible?

01:32:25.000 It's a very bad habit I have.

01:32:26.000 No, that's okay.

01:32:27.000 You're just excited to talk. 1.00

01:32:28.000 I'm a fucking know-it-all. 0.99

01:32:30.000 I'm very excited about it. 1.00

01:32:31.000 No, you're smart as fuck. 0.99

01:32:31.000 You're excited to talk. 0.99

01:32:32.000 No, I'm irritated by myself.

01:32:34.000 I'm not irritated by you.

01:32:36.000 Don't worry about it.

01:32:37.000 That's kind of what Facebook wanted.

01:32:39.000 Really? 0.97

01:32:40.000 Yeah, Facebook had the Libra, and it was all set up, and then the US government intervened and said, fuck no, because that could easily become the default currency overnight. 0.93

01:32:51.000 Facebook does all this local commerce. 0.92

01:32:55.000 They own the classified market.

01:32:57.000 They own the real economy. 1.00

01:33:00.000 The small mom and pops, they own that shit, which is why everyone hates them, especially the news people. 1.00

01:33:06.000 Because they're taking their salaries. 1.00

01:33:08.000 They're taking their fucking money away. 1.00

01:33:09.000 Newspapers, oh my god. 0.99

01:33:10.000 Anyway, that's not the plan.

01:33:13.000 The plan is the central bank digital currency.

01:33:16.000 You will have crypto.

01:33:18.000 You will have a digital wallet.

01:33:20.000 It will be directly from the Federal Reserve to you.

01:33:23.000 And there will be no little retail banking that just won't happen anymore.

01:33:28.000 All online.

01:33:30.000 Oh, of course.

01:33:31.000 No more brick and mortar in 50 years?

01:33:33.000 I mean, no, no.

01:33:35.000 You just use it like you use Venmo now.

01:33:37.000 Use it the same way, only you'd be connected to the Federal Reserve, to the central bank.

01:33:42.000 Now you've been completely morphed into where they want you to be, because then they fully control you.

01:33:48.000 Right, but do you think there'll be retail stores?

01:33:51.000 You think there'll be retail, right?

01:33:53.000 Well, if you believe in the metaverse that Neil Stevenson wrote about in Snow Crash, which I read.

01:33:59.000 Actually, I had metaverse.com for a long, long time.

01:34:02.000 Is that Snow Crash?

01:34:04.000 That's not that film.

01:34:06.000 Isn't there a film called Snow Crash?

01:34:08.000 Snowpiercer.

01:34:08.000 No, no.

01:34:09.000 Snow Crash.

01:34:10.000 I would hate for it to be film.

01:34:13.000 The only thing left in meat space, once we live in the metaverse, is...

01:34:22.000 Is Domino's Pizza Delivery and FedEx and hoverboards.

01:34:26.000 That's all that's left.

01:34:27.000 In that order?

01:34:28.000 Pretty much.

01:34:30.000 In the meat space.

01:34:31.000 I love that too.

01:34:32.000 The meat space.

01:34:34.000 But you know, I think there's a real possibility...

01:34:39.000 How about this, just for a scenario?

01:34:42.000 You're already in the gaming world.

01:34:44.000 You kind of love it.

01:34:45.000 You've got the goggles on.

01:34:47.000 It's augmented reality.

01:34:48.000 It's virtual reality.

01:34:49.000 Now, maybe I can get a gig.

01:34:51.000 Maybe I can put on a glove and do this and operate a robot remotely in a factory somewhere.

01:34:57.000 Or maybe I can train artificial intelligence, basically training to get rid of me.

01:35:02.000 You know, these are all things that I believe is where Silicon Valley wants to take us.

01:35:06.000 Could you imagine if that was a thing where you got a job in the metaverse and through the metaverse you were making things at a factory in a real place?

01:35:14.000 Oh, that's going to happen.

01:35:14.000 Oh, for sure.

01:35:15.000 Come on, man.

01:35:16.000 Elon's already jacking into your brain.

01:35:18.000 Of course this is going to happen.

01:35:19.000 This is transhumanism.

01:35:20.000 This is truly what one of the big agendas is, integrate people with technology.

01:35:25.000 It would remove all the concern about safety at factories because you never worry about someone losing fingers when it's not really their hand.

01:35:34.000 You've got some person who's controlling it remotely.

01:35:38.000 They're nowhere near the actual metal getting cut.

01:35:42.000 They're nowhere near the furnaces.

01:35:43.000 They're nowhere near any of the machinery that could fuck people up.

01:35:46.000 They're doing it all remotely.

01:35:49.000 And it's going to look like real life.

01:35:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:51.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:35:53.000 So, the most important thing is congregate people, get together with other people, hang out. 1.00

01:35:58.000 And also be aware of it while it's happening.

01:36:00.000 Oh, that's the hardest part, man.

01:36:03.000 That's the hardest part.

01:36:04.000 That is the hardest part because it's too overwhelming, especially if you have a job. 0.99

01:36:07.000 If you have a job doing something and then you have a family and you have hobbies and you have friends, you don't have time to be thinking about this shit. 0.96

01:36:14.000 Most people don't have the hobbies and the friends. 0.99

01:36:17.000 We've been divided amongst vax and unvax and safe and unsafe and stay safe and go with Jesus and I hate this and I hate that and I hate you and left, right, blue, red.

01:36:28.000 All this stuff is not healthy and it's probably not coincidental.

01:36:34.000 You've seen these delivery bots, I'm sure, right?

01:36:36.000 That are on the way out.

01:36:37.000 There you go.

01:36:39.000 This one is shown off at CES. That's how I saw this.

01:36:42.000 What happens if it hits a pothole?

01:36:43.000 Well, the interesting part here is how you control it.

01:36:46.000 It's not necessarily like an AI autonomous thing.

01:36:48.000 It's controlled by a guy in an Oculus headset in his office.

01:36:52.000 What?

01:36:53.000 There's your kid's future, Joe, right there.

01:36:56.000 So he walks with you?

01:36:57.000 No, no.

01:36:59.000 He's at home.

01:37:00.000 But wait a minute, but the guy there...

01:37:01.000 He's steering it.

01:37:02.000 That guy loaded it up, just like at the office or whatever. 1.00

01:37:04.000 He just put the shit inside of it. 1.00

01:37:05.000 And then this... 1.00

01:37:06.000 Hold on.

01:37:07.000 So he loads it at the store, and then a guy somewhere drives it to your house.

01:37:11.000 Like the Uber driver, if you will.

01:37:13.000 He just doesn't even leave.

01:37:14.000 He stays at home.

01:37:15.000 Look at him.

01:37:16.000 How quick before those guys go blind?

01:37:19.000 It seems like it's happening, right? 1.00

01:37:20.000 That shit can't be good for your eyeballs. 1.00

01:37:22.000 But that's like a metaverse job. 1.00

01:37:23.000 I think that's the least of the problems.

01:37:25.000 We're doing that all day.

01:37:26.000 They're like, we don't need eyeballs. 0.99

01:37:27.000 We're just going to drill straight into your fucking temple and give you these posts so you can strap those goggles on. 0.99

01:37:33.000 You'll see everything much clearer. 0.99

01:37:34.000 But we're already doing this.

01:37:35.000 That's what CAPTCHAs are.

01:37:36.000 CAPTCHAs are literally helping Google train their artificial intelligence.

01:37:41.000 That's crazy, though.

01:37:42.000 How many times have you seen it?

01:37:43.000 Oh, train, train, train. 0.90

01:37:44.000 Bus, bus, bus.

01:37:46.000 Thanks.

01:37:46.000 So you just helped train it with pictures that were random, and you helped Google learn what a train looks like.

01:37:55.000 It's important shit, man. 0.99

01:37:56.000 I know. 1.00

01:37:57.000 Like, are you a robot?

01:37:58.000 Make sure you check.

01:37:59.000 Show me you're not a robot, and I'm going to use your data.

01:38:02.000 Yeah.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, that's funny that it's actually training artificial intelligence.

01:38:07.000 It's good.

01:38:07.000 It's good artificial intelligence.

01:38:08.000 I mean, it knows what you're interested in buying.

01:38:10.000 They'll let you know every time you open up your email.

01:38:12.000 No, this is not good, Joe.

01:38:14.000 I want to just hear from Joe, my buddy Joe.

01:38:17.000 I want him to say, hey, this was a cool thing I ate.

01:38:19.000 Well, I'm getting this new gig with Google, and I'm on their side now.

01:38:23.000 There is one thing, technology, technology I'm legit excited about, and I'm really jacked, and that is...

01:38:29.000 What's that?

01:38:31.000 Flying car and or personal VTOL. I don't think you're going to get flying cars because I think they'll sabotage them with accidents.

01:38:38.000 I think the best way to control people is to keep them on the ground in grids so you can cut off the grid, stop the maze right there, and then you can capture them.

01:38:46.000 If people could just fly around, why are they going to pay taxes?

01:38:49.000 Let me qualify.

01:38:52.000 I'm a licensed fixed-wing and helicopter pilot, so whatever is on the market, I can fly, and I can fly legally, and there's not going to be a lot of people doing what I'm doing for a long, long, long time.

01:39:05.000 Really?

01:39:06.000 The regulation is exactly what you said.

01:39:08.000 Flying is not as beautiful as it looks.

01:39:10.000 You've got wind.

01:39:11.000 You've got weather.

01:39:11.000 You've got visibility.

01:39:12.000 You've got human performance.

01:39:14.000 You've got mechanical performance.

01:39:17.000 It's a lot of moving parts unless it's completely autonomous.

01:39:21.000 You get a piece of paper when you pass that.

01:39:23.000 It's for a reason.

01:39:24.000 It's not easy to get.

01:39:25.000 You've got to learn it and you've got to do it.

01:39:27.000 And so that's not just how do I operate the aircraft.

01:39:31.000 But for me personally, CES, the Consumer Electronics Show, is on right now in, I think, Vegas. 0.99

01:39:38.000 They're debuting the coolest fucking shit, and it's almost there. 0.99

01:39:42.000 Look at this Jetson 1. So it's like a one-person, basically a drone, and you can take it right out of my garage, go pop up and fly to see my buddy Joe. 0.99

01:39:54.000 They're not quite there yet.

01:39:56.000 It only does 50 mile radius. 0.99

01:39:57.000 But I think in three years, if they figure out the battery technology, which is still questionable, this is the kind of shit, man. 0.99

01:40:06.000 Look at this. 0.98

01:40:06.000 But what about when people are going to crash into each other in the sky? 0.98

01:40:08.000 No, but fuck that. 0.98

01:40:09.000 That's going to be decades before that happens. 1.00

01:40:11.000 No, this is for elites like me and you, Joe Rogan.

01:40:14.000 I'm going to go over there.

01:40:15.000 I'm going to hover at your house.

01:40:16.000 Hey, buddy.

01:40:17.000 Whoa.

01:40:17.000 You're going to pop up in your Jetson 1. Bro, that's wild.

01:40:20.000 I mean...

01:40:21.000 How easy is it?

01:40:22.000 It flies like a drone.

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 That's crazy, man.

01:40:25.000 I think you can...

01:40:25.000 This is real?

01:40:26.000 Oh, no.

01:40:27.000 You can buy them.

01:40:27.000 This is real?

01:40:28.000 $95,000, I think.

01:40:30.000 What?

01:40:30.000 Yeah, I think this is $95,000.

01:40:31.000 This is real?

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:33.000 Jamie, doesn't this look fake?

01:40:34.000 I think we need to figure it out for ourselves.

01:40:37.000 What do you think?

01:40:38.000 Let's buy one. 0.98

01:40:40.000 No, no, no, because you'll be on the schedule for 2023 or some shit like this. 0.63

01:40:45.000 This looks like a really good video game.

01:40:47.000 I thought at first it was 100%, and then they showed that thing in the...

01:40:51.000 I was going to ask you, YouTube started showing me yesterday, for some reason, paramotor videos.

01:40:55.000 Yeah, you've got a parachute and a big fin on your back.

01:40:59.000 Do you need a license for that, or can you just do it?

01:41:01.000 No, but you can't do much.

01:41:03.000 You can't fly to Austin.

01:41:04.000 Well, the guy that I just watched, he had a 10-gallon tank and went up to 17,000 feet.

01:41:09.000 Oh, but he's probably a pilot.

01:41:11.000 He probably has a license.

01:41:13.000 None of this is going to be in consumers' hands anytime soon.

01:41:16.000 That is a wild-looking piece of machinery.

01:41:18.000 But I could roll that right out of my garage.

01:41:20.000 2023, I think, maybe?

01:41:22.000 So you think, like, 2050, people are flying around?

01:41:25.000 That's a proof of concept.

01:41:26.000 No, it's going to be services.

01:41:29.000 So you have, like, 10-person, you know, pop in so people can live outside of the urban core, land on the rooftop.

01:41:35.000 That's coming.

01:41:36.000 But the regulations and the lawsuits, we can't even figure out 5G now with these regulatory, the FAA is fighting the FCC. Well, if people decide to fly drones, you know, they can fly drones over places, but there's restricted airspace.

01:41:51.000 Like, if we get rid of that whole idea of restricted, if people can just fly across borders, everyone from Mexico that wants to live in America is going to move. 0.98

01:41:58.000 It's not going to happen, Joe.

01:41:59.000 But if we get to a point where those things are more common, Like, borders won't mean shit if you can just fly around. 0.53

01:42:06.000 I'm just gonna remove that thought.

01:42:08.000 We're not gonna have the flying cars.

01:42:11.000 I mean, it's just, it's not practical unless we have some new technology, but it will all have to be managed in a full-time grid.

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 I mean, so you have scheduled times.

01:42:21.000 I mean, yeah, in the future, you know, in a futuristic movie, of course.

01:42:26.000 You know, we dream about the self-driving car.

01:42:28.000 Let's make that work first.

01:42:29.000 Right.

01:42:30.000 So, you know, the air is a whole—you've got other factors going on.

01:42:33.000 No, I'm not saying it's practical.

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:35.000 But I'm just trying to look out from here to the eventual changing of all the things we do, whether it's transportation— Yeah, I don't know if I like any of it.

01:42:44.000 I mean, I'm just— I don't know if I like it.

01:42:46.000 I'm getting old.

01:42:46.000 You like cigars?

01:42:47.000 I love cigars.

01:42:48.000 I don't smoke them very often.

01:42:50.000 In fact, only here.

01:42:52.000 I have JRE cigars.

01:42:53.000 Oh, with your mug on them?

01:42:55.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 Foundation Cigar Company made them for me.

01:42:58.000 That's cute.

01:42:58.000 Wait a minute.

01:42:59.000 You know what?

01:42:59.000 These are a little dry.

01:43:00.000 These haven't been in the humidor.

01:43:02.000 Let's try it. 0.94

01:43:07.000 So you're always an optimist no matter what, even through all this crazy shit that's going on? 0.94

01:43:11.000 Well, I think my optimism right now is that people are seeing what's going on. 0.88

01:43:17.000 Thank you.

01:43:17.000 People are seeing what's going on.

01:43:19.000 And there's a lighter tune.

01:43:21.000 Yeah.

01:43:22.000 And they're seeing that we can't fix these institutions with politics.

01:43:27.000 Oh! 0.60

01:43:28.000 Look at this.

01:43:30.000 Introducing the world's only contact lens that elevates your vision.

01:43:33.000 Jesus Christ.

01:43:35.000 They're going to take your whole eye out eventually. 1.00

01:43:37.000 You don't need a bitch-ass eye. 1.00

01:43:39.000 The way they're describing this is AR and a contact lens. 0.99

01:43:43.000 Look, for sports use at first, which I didn't...

01:43:47.000 Oh, yeah, you could probably see way better with that.

01:43:49.000 Like imagine if you were playing sports and you had a way better vision on like where a ball is or something.

01:43:56.000 The making of Mojo AR contact lenses that give your eyes superpowers.

01:44:00.000 Using a display the size of a grain of sand to project images into the retina, this startup could help everyone from firefighters to people with poor vision to the government tracking everything you see.

01:44:12.000 Don't worry, it's just hooked up to the grid.

01:44:14.000 Adam Carolla.

01:44:16.000 Oh.

01:44:17.000 Did you really do that?

01:44:18.000 I did.

01:44:18.000 That's harsh.

01:44:19.000 I was doing it as a government agent.

01:44:22.000 I was going to say what they would say to you.

01:44:24.000 I was going to say, Adam Curry, don't you worry about that.

01:44:28.000 Don't you worry about that.

01:44:29.000 What's important is that you see better.

01:44:30.000 You'll be a more productive member of our society.

01:44:33.000 You'll be better at everything you do.

01:44:35.000 You'll be able to see things.

01:44:36.000 This is the moment in history where people get to make that choice.

01:44:40.000 They treated you with the glasses.

01:44:41.000 They started you with the glasses.

01:44:44.000 Either we all go towards that future, lockstep, and let other people kind of control the direction we go, or we determine some of that ourselves.

01:44:53.000 Yes.

01:44:54.000 I'm 100% with you. 1.00

01:44:55.000 I'm just talking shit. 1.00

01:44:57.000 No, I know. 1.00

01:44:59.000 I'm just building my narrative.

01:45:01.000 There's a lot of young people who are opting out of these systems because it's not all compulsory.

01:45:08.000 There are options.

01:45:11.000 You can do other things with your time.

01:45:13.000 You can do different types of jobs.

01:45:16.000 Maybe go to a different type of education system.

01:45:19.000 Look at alternative types of medicine.

01:45:22.000 Why not?

01:45:22.000 People are no longer really afraid to even find each other and organize and hang out.

01:45:29.000 And to me, the optimist, this is where I'm very excited.

01:45:33.000 And it's 28, 29, 30-year-olds, up to 40. These are the people that I'm focusing on.

01:45:39.000 The alternatives are there. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Check out, fuck the Joneses. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Right. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Who gives a flying fuck what they do? 1.00

01:45:45.000 Stop caring about yourself that much, what other people think of you, and find family, friends, etc. 0.99

01:45:51.000 And mentor other people, you know.

01:45:54.000 Let's get, you know, men, a lot of men are doing this.

01:45:57.000 This is a silent revolution of men trying to put together new systems.

01:46:03.000 Some, they're watching their taint shrink.

01:46:05.000 Yeah.

01:46:06.000 Well, they're seeing their younger brothers.

01:46:07.000 Dude, your taint is not cool, bro! 0.96

01:46:10.000 We gotta get some beef in you! 1.00

01:46:11.000 Imagine if they came out with the technology that made your taint grow, and they just had all these studies of why you want a longer taint.

01:46:19.000 The marketing would be off the hook.

01:46:20.000 Hi, I'm Adam Curry here with Joe Rogan.

01:46:22.000 For every problem, there's a solution.

01:46:26.000 Hello, we're 15!

01:46:27.000 I still love that.

01:46:29.000 That's what I love about you.

01:46:30.000 We're still 15. Well, that's a real thing, though.

01:46:33.000 I mean, it's a silly thing to make fun of, but it's a real thing.

01:46:36.000 It seems like there's so many compounding issues.

01:46:40.000 There's that, there's our insistence of being deeper and deeper integrated into technology.

01:46:46.000 And our need for innovation where we always want the newest, best technology.

01:46:50.000 We're never satisfied until we get better and better stuff.

01:46:54.000 And then this integration with that technology through some sort of a system of communication that can be controlled, whether it's social media, whatever it is, whether it's the news, whatever it is, where you can control whatever people hear and what becomes normalized.

01:47:12.000 I think the problem here is that the control comes at a meta level.

01:47:16.000 So we've discussed finance.

01:47:17.000 Let's talk about energy now.

01:47:19.000 Because that's the next control pincer that is coming down on us.

01:47:24.000 You think that's what all this climate change talk is about?

01:47:26.000 100%.

01:47:26.000 And they revealed themselves recently.

01:47:28.000 And this was kind of interesting how this happened.

01:47:31.000 So we've been hearing, you know, for years and years and years, we've been hearing about solar, wind, solar, wind.

01:47:36.000 This is all going to be great.

01:47:38.000 And slowly everyone starts to dismantle.

01:47:40.000 Throughout Europe, Natural gas, even here in Texas now, you can no longer get a home that has gas heating or a gas stove.

01:47:49.000 It all has to be electricity.

01:47:50.000 They're removing all gas.

01:47:52.000 Gas is evil.

01:47:53.000 Gas is greenhouse gas.

01:47:54.000 We can't have any of this.

01:47:56.000 Nuclear has to shut down. 1.00

01:47:58.000 Everybody shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:47:59.000 Get rid of your nuke plants. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Germany, they're the ones that went all in. 0.98

01:48:03.000 They closed down their gas plants, most of them.

01:48:05.000 They just recently closed down their last nuclear reactor, and then all of a sudden, To the weak, the European Union says, yeah, we think we're going to classify natural gas and nuclear as green investments.

01:48:21.000 So there's the reveal.

01:48:23.000 Bill Gates has investments in nuclear. 0.98

01:48:27.000 And they're fucking the Germans because the Germans literally shut down their last nuclear plant. 0.93

01:48:32.000 So they realized—maybe it was a plant from the beginning, but they realized that the solar and wind, you can't do it without supplemental energy, natural gas. 0.99

01:48:41.000 Nuclear is the ultimate solution. 0.50

01:48:43.000 It's not as dangerous as it used to be.

01:48:45.000 And I think they gaslit the whole fucking world and now in context I kind of also understand the Uranium One deal that happened during the Obama administration that Hillary Clinton signed off on which gave away a lot of our The U.S. is nuclear fuel.

01:49:02.000 Maybe this has been a long time coming. 0.99

01:49:05.000 Like, get all the shit out, then we're gonna control the energy with nuclear and gas. 0.99

01:49:09.000 But hold on. 0.97

01:49:10.000 When they first started innovating with solar and with wind, the people that were involved in those businesses Those were entrepreneurs and engineers and scientists that were trying to figure out how to extract the most amount of energy from the wind,

01:49:28.000 the most amount of energy from solar.

01:49:30.000 And then over time, I think they found that there's some serious restrictions.

01:49:34.000 Like, you have to have wind.

01:49:35.000 If you don't have any wind, you don't have no electricity. 0.97

01:49:37.000 Like, I flew by in California once, and I looked down at this wind farm, and I'll never forget, none of them bitches are spinning. 1.00

01:49:43.000 None of them. 0.98

01:49:44.000 I disagree about that.

01:49:45.000 I think that there was a promise that battery technology would advance along with the solar and wind technology, and a lot of promise, including, I would say, arguably from Elon.

01:49:56.000 And it just hasn't happened.

01:49:58.000 Right, that's what I just said.

01:50:00.000 That's what I meant.

01:50:02.000 You meant the battery technology.

01:50:04.000 All the technology.

01:50:05.000 That's the choke hold, is the battery.

01:50:08.000 The battery, but it's also the wind.

01:50:10.000 They don't get much power out of the wind.

01:50:12.000 There's all kinds of issues.

01:50:14.000 If the wind is blowing too hard, you can't overload the grid, so they have to turn them off.

01:50:19.000 There's that problem, too.

01:50:21.000 Now, the real issue, and this is what happened, in my opinion, in Texas when we lost power for four or five days.

01:50:30.000 The energy that we consume has been traded and commoditized 20 times over up to five years ago by energy suppliers.

01:50:43.000 This is what ERCOT is.

01:50:44.000 It's basically a real-time auction every five minutes On this side is Austin saying, hey, I need some energy, and on that side are the suppliers.

01:50:54.000 And they say, okay, I'll buy yours for $75 a megawatt hour.

01:50:58.000 And then after five minutes, they're looking at these prices, and I'll grab yours.

01:51:02.000 Those prices ran up to $9,000 per megawatt hour just before this all happened.

01:51:10.000 Basically, Enron never went away.

01:51:12.000 These are just people who are trading energy like it's stocks and bonds, and because of that, no one thought that, hey, you know, maybe we should at least fire up one plant at a possible loss, because it takes several days to do, just in case this storm is bad.

01:51:28.000 They took the risk of the money, losing money, over everybody else, and that's been completely...

01:51:36.000 Covered up, not talked about. 1.00

01:51:38.000 It's a fucking mess. 1.00

01:51:40.000 It's just Wall Street bets going on right there. 1.00

01:51:44.000 Not Wall Street bets, but like betting on Wall Street going on with our energy supply.

01:51:49.000 And no one knows.

01:51:50.000 Well, Abbott knows.

01:51:52.000 The people know.

01:51:53.000 You know, now climate change activists are using this as Texas can't manage their grid.

01:51:58.000 We got a great grid. 1.00

01:51:59.000 We got assholes who are trading our futures. 1.00

01:52:02.000 And then German companies, not even American or Texan. 1.00

01:52:06.000 What?

01:52:06.000 Yeah!

01:52:07.000 That is so bonkers.

01:52:08.000 Yeah.

01:52:09.000 Well, this is the world when you start to look at it.

01:52:11.000 This is, again, the problem and one of the reasons why I appreciate you and many other people. 0.99

01:52:14.000 So you've got the time to pay attention to this shit, whereas most people just don't. 0.99

01:52:18.000 They just don't. 0.99

01:52:19.000 The No Agenda show allows me to do this work all day long.

01:52:22.000 That's my job.

01:52:23.000 Thank God you're here.

01:52:25.000 I learn so much from you.

01:52:27.000 Whenever we talk, I'm like, what?

01:52:28.000 No, come on, really?

01:52:30.000 Every time we talk, what?

01:52:31.000 Really?

01:52:32.000 What?

01:52:32.000 When did they start doing that?

01:52:34.000 And I guess we don't really talk much outside of the show.

01:52:36.000 But how many of our conversations are me saying, what?

01:52:39.000 I don't know.

01:52:40.000 I just always come away thinking, holy crap, I love what I do.

01:52:44.000 I love this.

01:52:44.000 It's so fun.

01:52:46.000 It's fun.

01:52:46.000 I really, really, really love it.

01:52:48.000 Yeah.

01:52:50.000 It is fun. 0.99

01:52:50.000 We're lucky as fuck, dude. 0.99

01:52:53.000 We really are. 0.99

01:52:54.000 I mean, it is kind of lucky.

01:52:55.000 Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.

01:52:58.000 Yeah, it's where mental illness meets an opening. 0.81

01:53:01.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:53:02.000 Deep!

01:53:03.000 It finds some way to navigate through this system where it seems to thrive.

01:53:10.000 Did you go to college?

01:53:10.000 I'd spent very little time in college.

01:53:12.000 Me too.

01:53:12.000 I went to college for three years.

01:53:13.000 Oh, I went three months.

01:53:14.000 But it was like part-time.

01:53:16.000 I was working at the same time and I was competing at the same time.

01:53:20.000 So I wonder if we just didn't get the programming.

01:53:22.000 No, I wasn't wasting my time.

01:53:24.000 I just went to college so that people wouldn't think I was a loser.

01:53:27.000 That's literally the reason why I went.

01:53:29.000 I went to UMass Boston, and so it was a city school.

01:53:32.000 It was like a commuter school.

01:53:33.000 A lot of people that had jobs would go there. 0.99

01:53:35.000 It was a good school, but I didn't give a fuck. 0.98

01:53:38.000 I was just doing it because I thought it was something you were supposed to do. 0.98

01:53:43.000 I've always had this thing where I'll find a thing, whatever it is, and I become obsessed, and that's all what I wanted to do.

01:53:51.000 And at first it was martial arts and then it became stand-up comedy, but during that time I was also trying to go to school.

01:53:56.000 So if I've got that thing where I'm obsessed with, I'm not thinking about other stuff.

01:54:00.000 And I know I'm supposed to, but I'm not.

01:54:03.000 I hear you.

01:54:04.000 I'm very similar.

01:54:05.000 I thought it was going to turn me into a total loser because I thought I wasn't going to be able to keep a job where I had to do things that I did not want to do, which is what I thought most people had to do all day long, which really is the case for most people.

01:54:16.000 So that's where mental illness meets an opening. 0.67

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:21.000 Right?

01:54:22.000 Because a normal person would back off of certain controversial issues.

01:54:27.000 Of course, of course.

01:54:27.000 Or they wouldn't speak their mind.

01:54:29.000 They wouldn't say something crazy if they thought it was funny.

01:54:32.000 It's too risky.

01:54:33.000 Why take a risk when you're managing all this?

01:54:36.000 It'd be better if you were less controversial.

01:54:37.000 Then you'd get more sponsors.

01:54:38.000 And then you'd have more people paying for things.

01:54:40.000 I don't think that's true anymore.

01:54:42.000 I don't think that's real anymore.

01:54:43.000 I think we're at this point where we realize that whatever our views of our society are, whatever our views of culture and civilization are, they're shaped by other people.

01:54:54.000 And they're shaped by other people who may or may not have thought this through.

01:54:58.000 There's examples of people who absolutely have thought this through and they're fascinating examples.

01:55:03.000 Fascinating accounts of people who wrote things down that still inspire us to this day.

01:55:07.000 Even people who You know, wrote the Declaration of Independence and what a bunch of crafty fucks sitting around thinking, how do we write down some rules to keep this thing on the rails as long as possible?

01:55:20.000 Fascinating, right? 0.76

01:55:21.000 But not most people.

01:55:22.000 Most people aren't thinking like that.

01:55:24.000 Most people don't have the time to think like that.

01:55:25.000 They don't have the chance to think like that.

01:55:27.000 But these are all—priority is, I think, the difference.

01:55:31.000 People have time.

01:55:32.000 Look, this is—that's the one commodity.

01:55:34.000 That's right there, is your time preference, is how long you're willing to wait for something.

01:55:40.000 You know, we used to save money.

01:55:41.000 Now we buy stuff on credit.

01:55:43.000 You know, that's just a complete reversal.

01:55:45.000 If you wait until you're like 35, 36 years old, and you have a deep investment in a company that you've been working for for 10 years plus, and you also have a family, and you have a mortgage, it's very difficult for anybody to rock the boat.

01:55:58.000 But there's a lot of people that are opting out of that, that go and live in yurts and working non-profit small things.

01:56:05.000 You know, local stores, setting up shops.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 And that's perfect, too.

01:56:11.000 I don't know what Valhalla is, but I moved out of Austin because I was ready, you know?

01:56:16.000 Give me some acreage.

01:56:17.000 Let me hang out a little bit. 0.99

01:56:18.000 Yeah, wake up and hear birds and shit. 0.99

01:56:20.000 I heard an owl this morning. 0.98

01:56:22.000 Nice.

01:56:24.000 They're fascinating because everybody wants to think they're cute. 1.00

01:56:27.000 They're the meanest motherfuckers. 1.00

01:56:28.000 I remember one time I was flying home, or driving home rather, and this owl flew above my car and dropped a rabbit on the road in front of me. 1.00

01:56:38.000 Because sometimes when you startle them, if you drive by and they have their prey, they try to fly with it, but then they realize like, hey, this rabbit's fucking heavy, I gotta let this bitch go. 1.00

01:56:47.000 And it just blang! 0.99

01:56:48.000 Just let it go on the highway, or on the road, rather.

01:56:51.000 So I pulled over to the side of the road, and I got out, and I looked at this gutted rabbit.

01:56:55.000 Like, all of his guts were missing, to the owl had torn apart.

01:56:58.000 I'm like, wow.

01:56:59.000 We think of these things as being like these...

01:57:01.000 Cute.

01:57:02.000 Wise.

01:57:03.000 Wise.

01:57:03.000 Give a hoot.

01:57:04.000 Don't pollute.

01:57:04.000 Did you know they can swivel their head 360 degrees?

01:57:08.000 Did you know they know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop?

01:57:11.000 One.

01:57:15.000 We had a commercial where an owl can't help but eat a lollipop.

01:57:20.000 Remember that? 1.00

01:57:20.000 Like that was his shit. 1.00

01:57:22.000 The owl wanted those Tootsie Roll Pops. 1.00

01:57:25.000 But they're awesome predators, man.

01:57:26.000 Look at that sad programming that is still with us to this day.

01:57:29.000 They kill a lot of other predators, too, man. 1.00

01:57:31.000 A lot of birds and shit. 0.99

01:57:32.000 That's why you want them around. 0.99

01:57:33.000 Well, you want them around for the varmint.

01:57:35.000 He's going after that rabbit.

01:57:36.000 They have this face that looks cute, but that's just so they can hunt so effectively at night.

01:57:41.000 There's an amazing video, I don't know if you've ever seen it, of an owl snatching a hawk out of its nest in the middle of the night.

01:57:46.000 Yes, I have seen that.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, that's badass.

01:57:48.000 That beast, bro.

01:57:49.000 And then for every owl, there's an eagle ready to eat them.

01:57:51.000 And of course, that's the important part, because the owl represents the Illuminati, but the eagle represents America.

01:57:59.000 America!

01:58:00.000 America!

01:58:01.000 It's funny that we have an eagle, rather, as our national animal.

01:58:05.000 Why?

01:58:06.000 They wanted to have a puppy at first.

01:58:07.000 It was going to be a pit bull.

01:58:09.000 No, it was the turkey.

01:58:10.000 I think Ben Franklin wanted it to be a turkey.

01:58:13.000 I thought it was the dog for a while.

01:58:16.000 It was a dog.

01:58:17.000 I think it was a pit bull.

01:58:19.000 No!

01:58:19.000 Oh, no, no, no, really.

01:58:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:21.000 They wanted it to be- For a U.S. symbol?

01:58:23.000 Yeah, for us to be our national animal.

01:58:25.000 Yeah.

01:58:26.000 I forget when this was.

01:58:27.000 I want to say it was early 1900s, which kind of makes sense, because if you have a loyal dog, especially if you use them in a rural area, chasing off wolves and- I have one now.

01:58:37.000 Hunting and stuff.

01:58:38.000 Back then, a dog was super important, especially in the 1700s and the 1800s.

01:58:43.000 If you had dogs to let you know that wolves were nearby, that was real.

01:58:46.000 They were going to eat your cows. 1.00

01:58:48.000 You had to scare them off.

01:58:49.000 When I'm looking it up, it says the bald eagle is just a national bird, and we have a different animal as the national mammal.

01:58:55.000 We do?

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 What is it?

01:58:57.000 American bison.

01:58:58.000 Wow.

01:58:58.000 That makes sense.

01:59:00.000 That's pretty cool.

01:59:00.000 Yeah.

01:59:01.000 They're just doing that because they're going to corner the bison market and stop us from hunting bisons. 0.97

01:59:05.000 And what they're trying to do is bison is better than beef, and they're trying to get rid of beef, and they're moving beef out, and they're going to start with this plant-based meat.

01:59:11.000 But really what they're trying to do is get the bison back.

01:59:13.000 And once they get the bison in place, they're going to say, well, this is the national animal.

01:59:15.000 You can't shoot a bison.

01:59:17.000 Only we can shoot a bison.

01:59:18.000 So we know how many bison can get shot, and we'll control all the bison.

01:59:21.000 And the bison will be the only way you eat.

01:59:23.000 And you're eating too much bison.

01:59:24.000 Your kids are too big.

01:59:26.000 Look at you.

01:59:26.000 You're growing too tall.

01:59:27.000 You get less bison. 1.00

01:59:29.000 Move over, bald eagle.

01:59:30.000 The U.S. has a new national animal.

01:59:32.000 Oh, this is in 2018?

01:59:33.000 16. 16?

01:59:34.000 They changed it to the bison?

01:59:36.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:59:36.000 Oh, these fucks. 1.00

01:59:37.000 See? 1.00

01:59:37.000 I'm telling you, bro. 1.00

01:59:38.000 So, where we live now, I get up in the morning, there's like eight deer right on my property, which I could take them out so easily.

01:59:51.000 What is the big deal with deer hunting?

01:59:53.000 It seems quite simple. 1.00

01:59:55.000 You just sit in your living room and just blow the fucker away. 1.00

01:59:58.000 That is not deer hunting. 1.00

01:59:59.000 Those are deer that live around people.

02:00:02.000 Yeah.

02:00:03.000 Deer that live around people.

02:00:04.000 Are they not tasty?

02:00:05.000 They're very tasty.

02:00:05.000 Okay.

02:00:06.000 You definitely couldn't eat them if you wanted 100%.

02:00:08.000 Just in case. 0.99

02:00:09.000 The Bucks, by the way, are fucking crazy right now. 1.00

02:00:12.000 They are trying. 1.00

02:00:12.000 Not right now. 1.00

02:00:13.000 Like two weeks ago, they were gang raping. 0.60

02:00:16.000 It was insane. 0.69

02:00:18.000 It was scary.

02:00:18.000 And then it ends.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, that it's over. 0.71

02:00:20.000 They go shithouse mad for a couple weeks.

02:00:24.000 The thing about those animals near you is they're only there because people won't shoot them.

02:00:28.000 See, like, if you go to Yellowstone, they just, they figure it out.

02:00:31.000 Like, if you go to Yellowstone, you can take selfies with, like, a whole...

02:00:35.000 Like, beautiful herd of elk.

02:00:37.000 They're hanging out.

02:00:38.000 They're just hanging out there. 1.00

02:00:39.000 So there's a fucking Coca-Cola vending machine. 0.99

02:00:41.000 And I have a selfie with me in front of it. 1.00

02:00:43.000 I think I put it on Instagram.

02:00:45.000 Of me in front where these deer are behind me.

02:00:48.000 I'm smiling.

02:00:49.000 They're just...

02:00:50.000 This elk, rather, are just hanging out.

02:00:52.000 So they figured out that wolves won't go to the visitor areas.

02:00:55.000 So the elk just walk down the street.

02:00:57.000 Like if you go to Evergreen, Colorado.

02:00:58.000 Evergreen, Colorado is famous for having elk walk down the center of Main Street where they literally stop traffic.

02:01:05.000 And they'll have elk fights where they smash into each other in the middle of the street.

02:01:09.000 It's wild, man.

02:01:10.000 They crash into people's cars.

02:01:11.000 It happens all the time. 0.99

02:01:12.000 Like I have friends who live there who send me videos looking out their fucking front window and an elk screaming on their lawn. 1.00

02:01:19.000 A big ass elk. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Huge. 0.91

02:01:20.000 Because they figured out that people won't hunt them there. 0.91

02:01:22.000 So they go there.

02:01:23.000 But if you go to the woods, those elk act radically different.

02:01:27.000 They smell you and they run.

02:01:28.000 If they just catch your wind, their ears go up and they're gone.

02:01:32.000 They all run off and they bark.

02:01:34.000 I foresee a problem because I think there's too many deer right now near me.

02:01:38.000 Should we be getting rid of them?

02:01:40.000 If you started hunting them, they would go away.

02:01:42.000 They would find a place where people want.

02:01:42.000 We might need to do that eventually.

02:01:44.000 It just seems like there's too many.

02:01:45.000 Because the Hill Country is building up with non-hunting people like myself.

02:01:49.000 Yes.

02:01:49.000 Well, there's plenty of people in Texas that hunt, but the thing about Texas is it doesn't have much public land.

02:01:55.000 Texas is mostly private land, so you either have to pay to get on someone's land or ask them.

02:02:00.000 Some people will let you get on their land.

02:02:02.000 Have you been to Uvalde where the big ranch is?

02:02:06.000 I haven't.

02:02:06.000 No, I haven't, but I heard it's awesome.

02:02:07.000 My point is that for a regular person, it's hard.

02:02:10.000 It's hard to get the money to do it.

02:02:13.000 It's like if you want to go to a ranch, you have to pay to shoot deers.

02:02:17.000 It's way too expensive at these private ranches.

02:02:20.000 If you're on public land, there's a lot of places in this country where you can get a general over-the-counter tag, and you have a pretty good chance of encountering a deer.

02:02:28.000 Decent. 0.97

02:02:30.000 But on these ranches, you've got a fucking 100% chance of encountering deer. 0.99

02:02:34.000 They're all over the place. 0.96

02:02:35.000 So it's a weird form of hunting to a lot of people.

02:02:38.000 A lot of people don't like the feeders, the whole situation.

02:02:41.000 But if you want to get meat, it's the best way to do it.

02:02:45.000 If that's what your concern is, let them roam around, and then every now and then when they're eating, I'm going to whack one.

02:02:51.000 But it's kind of a different thing.

02:02:55.000 That's how it would be in your backyard.

02:02:57.000 Thank you for correcting me.

02:02:57.000 My point is, if you wanted to almost farm, what you do is you leave food out for the feeder.

02:03:03.000 I don't even know if this is legal, so don't do it.

02:03:05.000 People have feeders all over the place.

02:03:07.000 Okay, well then it is legal.

02:03:07.000 It's probably legal here.

02:03:09.000 You can buy a tiger.

02:03:10.000 Texas is pretty loose with what they allow with wildlife.

02:03:13.000 Just saying.

02:03:14.000 But if you did that, then you would establish that there was always food there, so you would get a steady amount of deer there, and then every now and then you whack one.

02:03:21.000 But if you whack one with a bow and arrow, it'll be way quieter and probably not freak them out as much.

02:03:27.000 So, like, they probably won't even know what's going on.

02:03:29.000 One of them just hit, whack, there's a noise, they run off, and then they fall down, and then they're gone.

02:03:33.000 I told you about the kangaroos, right, when I went out with the kangaroo shooter in Australia? 1.00

02:03:37.000 Yes, you did.

02:03:38.000 That was just too funny, man.

02:03:40.000 You shine, middle of the night, shine the light, kangaroo's like, whoa, bullet goes in, kangaroo next to him.

02:03:47.000 Just like, whoa.

02:03:50.000 And for them, it's actually important.

02:03:52.000 They're not cute.

02:03:53.000 Kangaroos are odd.

02:03:54.000 I think they're fascinating, but they're very prevalent.

02:03:57.000 And they're aggressive.

02:03:58.000 They're very aggressive.

02:03:59.000 Especially the males.

02:04:00.000 It's crazy.

02:04:01.000 Some of them are way bigger too, right?

02:04:03.000 Which one's the big one?

02:04:04.000 The red one or the gray one? 1.00

02:04:05.000 Fuck, I don't know. 1.00

02:04:06.000 One of them gets real big, like seven feet tall. 1.00

02:04:08.000 Like seven, eight feet, yeah. 0.99

02:04:08.000 Which is just fucking, you don't expect that. 0.99

02:04:11.000 It's kind of scary. 1.00

02:04:12.000 If I'm standing in front of a fucking seven foot tall kangaroo with jacked arms, like you're in real danger. 0.99

02:04:19.000 How much does it weigh, you think? 1.00

02:04:20.000 300 pounds?

02:04:22.000 At least.

02:04:23.000 Because they're beefy.

02:04:24.000 Those ones that you see that are super jacked, I always wonder, have they been tricking that one into working out?

02:04:30.000 Is that just for the video?

02:04:31.000 We have such a skewed view of what the kangaroo is.

02:04:35.000 And we have a skewed view of Australia.

02:04:38.000 Because I did a documentary there in 1990, and I still came away with, Aye, mate, you're Australian.

02:04:43.000 This is a knife, mate.

02:04:45.000 That kind of crocodile dundee.

02:04:47.000 And then, sadly, when it comes down to it now, all these years later, you know, they started as a prison colony.

02:04:54.000 They're used to being locked down, and that's what they're accepting.

02:04:57.000 Do you think that's what is happening here?

02:04:58.000 I think a lot of it's cultural.

02:05:00.000 Look, Joe, we have the same Omicron here in the Netherlands, as in Germany, as in Austria.

02:05:06.000 Everything is the same thing.

02:05:08.000 Yeah, but it's not.

02:05:08.000 Hold on a second.

02:05:09.000 Let me stop you there.

02:05:10.000 No, no, no.

02:05:11.000 We do have the same Omicron, but that's not the majority of the cases.

02:05:14.000 The majority of the cases right now, from what I just read, was Delta.

02:05:17.000 It's still higher than Omicron.

02:05:18.000 It's just Omicron's more contagious.

02:05:19.000 But we're not locked down.

02:05:21.000 These countries are locked down.

02:05:23.000 They're sending people to camps.

02:05:25.000 Yes.

02:05:26.000 Come on! 0.61

02:05:27.000 I'm not defending that, but I just had to get that out because I think that is what's going on.

02:05:31.000 There's this perception that it's only Omicron out there right now.

02:05:35.000 And that's fine.

02:05:37.000 My point is that the Delta's scary.

02:05:39.000 That's more dangerous.

02:05:40.000 This Omicron thing seems to be pretty mild, but that Delta one's scary.

02:05:43.000 So I get people being scared, but the rules that they're doing, yes.

02:05:46.000 There's no way they should be able to do that.

02:05:48.000 But there's effective treatments if you get it.

02:05:50.000 Yeah, there is.

02:05:51.000 There's effective treatment. 0.97

02:05:52.000 They should be pumping the shit out of those monoclonal antibodies because those are super effective. 0.97

02:05:56.000 They're suppressing those. 0.99

02:05:57.000 You know that, right?

02:05:58.000 It's nuts, man.

02:05:59.000 It's nuts.

02:05:59.000 They are suppressing it.

02:06:00.000 I've seen the emails in the health systems.

02:06:02.000 Yeah.

02:06:03.000 We're limiting supply of monoclonal antibody.

02:06:06.000 However, the new Pfizer oral pill is really quite effective.

02:06:09.000 Here's the statistics.

02:06:10.000 You should prescribe that.

02:06:12.000 So are they handing out that Pfizer pill already?

02:06:14.000 Yes!

02:06:15.000 Is it good?

02:06:15.000 Does it work?

02:06:17.000 Who am I to say?

02:06:18.000 I wouldn't take it.

02:06:19.000 Maybe it works, man.

02:06:21.000 I don't know.

02:06:21.000 You have to take it with an HIV medication.

02:06:24.000 Yeah, there's all kinds of weird shit around it. 0.90

02:06:27.000 What if they said you've got to take it with Molly? 0.95

02:06:30.000 You've got to relighten up, buddy.

02:06:31.000 This is what we're going to give you.

02:06:32.000 A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

02:06:33.000 I've never done MDMA, Molly, anything like that.

02:06:36.000 I only did it once, and I still think about that day.

02:06:37.000 No, no, no, no.

02:06:39.000 I'm not interested.

02:06:40.000 Why are you not interested in feeling love?

02:06:42.000 Holding people's hands.

02:06:44.000 Just lying in the sand like it's the best day of your life.

02:06:46.000 Just, ah, just sand.

02:06:48.000 My wife keeps telling me, why don't you have Joe come to our place and we'll introduce you to mushrooms together.

02:06:54.000 Oh, I'll do that.

02:06:56.000 Done.

02:06:56.000 Okay, let's do it.

02:06:57.000 Done.

02:06:58.000 Have you done no psychedelics?

02:06:59.000 Never.

02:07:00.000 Well, I've done DMT twice. 1.00

02:07:01.000 Oh, well, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:07:02.000 Well, I don't know. 1.00

02:07:03.000 You've been to the motherland.

02:07:04.000 I don't...

02:07:05.000 I have no...

02:07:05.000 That was...

02:07:06.000 That was very cool, by the way.

02:07:08.000 That's a good way to put it.

02:07:09.000 Being a stoner, you know, used to kind of like hazy and there's just like this fresh wind and, oh my God, the carpet is alive.

02:07:16.000 That's kind of cool.

02:07:17.000 Oh, I see your energy.

02:07:18.000 Hold on a second.

02:07:19.000 I'm going to put that over there.

02:07:20.000 Pa, Jamie, catch the energy.

02:07:21.000 Yeah.

02:07:22.000 And I like that it ended.

02:07:24.000 Yeah.

02:07:24.000 20 minutes.

02:07:25.000 Woo! 0.99

02:07:26.000 Of course, you were dead tired for 48 hours after that.

02:07:29.000 Really?

02:07:29.000 Oh, I didn't like that part at all.

02:07:31.000 I I didn't get tired at all.

02:07:32.000 I didn't feel any of that.

02:07:33.000 I felt zero of that.

02:07:34.000 It was a while ago.

02:07:36.000 Do you think it was a physical tired from the experience and being overwhelmed?

02:07:42.000 Where it was like a psychological tired?

02:07:44.000 No, just my body felt tired.

02:07:45.000 I don't know.

02:07:46.000 Maybe you got impure stuff.

02:07:48.000 Because a lot of times people that are making it...

02:07:50.000 It came from the druid.

02:07:51.000 It was the actual tree bark.

02:07:52.000 It wasn't...

02:07:54.000 I certainly am not interested in doing synthetic DMT. Well, here's the thing.

02:08:00.000 From what I understand, the synthesis of it is quite complicated.

02:08:04.000 I mean, it's quite easy for someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff, but to an average goon who wants to start making DMT, it's not easy to do.

02:08:14.000 For an average goon who doesn't have a background in chemistry. 0.98

02:08:17.000 I'm pro MDMA, for instance.

02:08:19.000 Hold on, please.

02:08:20.000 Let me finish.

02:08:21.000 So the point is, some people probably don't do the best job.

02:08:25.000 This is not my idea, by the way.

02:08:26.000 This is explained to me by my friend who knows these things.

02:08:29.000 He said they don't do the best job of making it pure.

02:08:31.000 And you can tell, oftentimes, by the differences in the color of it.

02:08:35.000 And that the better versions of it, more synthesized versions of it, when they're doing this whole process, are like a lighter color. 0.96

02:08:43.000 And as they get darker and darker, they might have other shit in them. 0.64

02:08:46.000 Meaning other plant chemicals and compounds that they haven't extracted out. 1.00

02:08:50.000 This is, again, I'm a moron. 0.98

02:08:52.000 I don't know if this is true. 0.97

02:08:52.000 But the way he was explaining it to me, that's why a lot of people don't feel good when they do it. 0.97

02:08:56.000 Because you're taking it...

02:08:57.000 It's like if you smoked, like, maple leaves. 1.00

02:09:00.000 If you rolled maple leaves up and smoked them, you'd probably feel like dog shit. 1.00

02:09:04.000 You know? 1.00

02:09:05.000 You'd probably feel fucking horrible. 0.98

02:09:06.000 Like, who knows what's in those things that you're taking into... 0.99

02:09:08.000 As opposed to, like, cigarettes, which people are accustomed to and still can make you feel like shit, or marijuana, which is, like, normal. 0.94

02:09:15.000 Right. 0.86

02:09:16.000 So that's probably...

02:09:18.000 That's possible.

02:09:19.000 I just thought that at the time I was sold on the, it comes from this guy, he's the druid, and he got it from the tree bark, so I kind of believe that.

02:09:25.000 Maybe I was wrong.

02:09:26.000 No.

02:09:26.000 I was misled.

02:09:27.000 No, it's probably just not the best version.

02:09:29.000 Was it brown?

02:09:30.000 I don't remember.

02:09:31.000 Or was it white?

02:09:31.000 We put it in the bong?

02:09:32.000 Yeah.

02:09:33.000 Okay, the bong's weird.

02:09:34.000 And for months after that, that smell, oh my God.

02:09:41.000 The burnt plastic?

02:09:42.000 It's whatever.

02:09:43.000 It's like you walk past, oh my god, DMT over there.

02:09:46.000 And it was like not appealing, but it was so distinct.

02:09:48.000 It's like just, oh my god.

02:09:49.000 I smell it sometimes.

02:09:51.000 I was in a hardware store the other day and I smelled it.

02:09:53.000 And I know it wasn't real.

02:09:54.000 I mean, I know it was just a smell.

02:09:56.000 And it made me like...

02:09:57.000 Oh, it was a flashback.

02:09:58.000 You got a flashback.

02:09:59.000 No, no, no.

02:10:00.000 I think there was a smell.

02:10:01.000 And for whatever reason, my brain said, oh, remember the smell of DMT. Like almost like made me associate it with it.

02:10:07.000 Right.

02:10:07.000 Like close enough.

02:10:14.000 But I didn't have any physical aches or pains afterwards.

02:10:18.000 But I wouldn't be surprised.

02:10:19.000 I wouldn't be surprised if it hits people different ways, too.

02:10:22.000 Like, I know people that have gotten high, and the next day they're wrecked.

02:10:24.000 Just from marijuana.

02:10:26.000 Oh, totally, yeah.

02:10:27.000 The more you smoke, the less you need, basically, to get high, is my experience.

02:10:31.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:10:32.000 Or going longer periods in between.

02:10:35.000 But I kind of like to just microdose my way through life in general.

02:10:39.000 Microdosing mushrooms is a great move.

02:10:41.000 It's a great move.

02:10:42.000 I was talking about marijuana.

02:10:45.000 Microdosing mushrooms is a good move, too, though, man.

02:10:47.000 It's a good way to get introduced to it, too.

02:10:49.000 Because it's very gentle.

02:10:50.000 I also like being completely clear-headed and enjoying a good meal with a glass of wine.

02:10:55.000 Sure.

02:10:55.000 I like that, too.

02:10:56.000 It's not like 24-7.

02:10:58.000 No, no, no.

02:10:59.000 That's the cool thing about microdosing.

02:11:01.000 You just stop.

02:11:02.000 Like, okay, I'm done now.

02:11:02.000 It's good.

02:11:03.000 Microdosing with mushrooms, you don't experience much in terms of, like, there's no, like, I'm high now.

02:11:11.000 It's like this weird, slight elevation.

02:11:14.000 This is why people like to microdose, because it allows you to completely function normally.

02:11:18.000 Like, I've had many, like, completely lucid conversations with some of my favorite people, and they told me they were microdosing.

02:11:24.000 It's very, very common now amongst Silicon Valley people and a lot of tech people.

02:11:29.000 They're microdosing both LSD and mushrooms.

02:11:32.000 And what they'll do is they'll get somebody.

02:11:34.000 It shows in their actions.

02:11:37.000 Hey, we need to roll that gang up there. 1.00

02:11:40.000 I don't know.

02:11:41.000 I don't think that's a problem.

02:11:42.000 They're all high. 0.97

02:11:43.000 That's probably the only thing keeping them from going fucking full crazy. 0.98

02:11:46.000 Remember when they were all conservatives and were reading Ayn Rand? 0.97

02:11:50.000 What was that?

02:11:51.000 That was kind of from Bush to Obama, and that became really unpopular overnight.

02:12:00.000 Like, everybody was handing out Atlas Shrug to their employees, and this is the way to go, objectivism, and, you know, like, freedom.

02:12:10.000 It was kind of still the information, much more conservative-leaning, which a lot of Silicon Valley really is, because, of course, just the amount of money, you know, So they're socially liberal because it's a good posture?

02:12:21.000 I think most of them now are in total capture.

02:12:24.000 There's no other...

02:12:24.000 I mean, how can you be an investor in Google and be a Republican?

02:12:27.000 You know, I don't think that's possible anymore.

02:12:29.000 You can't sit on a board. 1.00

02:12:30.000 People just fuck with you. 1.00

02:12:32.000 No, I think that's... 1.00

02:12:34.000 You can't get investment...

02:12:37.000 You can't get investment, Joe.

02:12:38.000 Back to the fink.

02:12:39.000 Right, but when it comes to money, they're very conservative in terms of like using offshore accounts and the way they, you know, structure their taxes.

02:12:50.000 They're very right-wing in that regard, right?

02:12:53.000 I would argue this actually has nothing to do with left or right wing.

02:12:58.000 That's just rich.

02:12:59.000 Conservative, I should say. 1.00

02:13:00.000 Fucking rich. 0.99

02:13:01.000 Right, and rich people are generally in that regard conservative. 1.00

02:13:04.000 America has double standard.

02:13:06.000 If you have the money, you can beat the rap.

02:13:09.000 If you have the money, you can not go to jail for financial crimes.

02:13:13.000 That's just a fact. 0.99

02:13:14.000 And the little guy, which you and I are part of, even you, we would get fucked. 0.99

02:13:19.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:13:20.000 No, you gotta pay them taxes.

02:13:22.000 Pay that big.

02:13:23.000 I don't care how you structure it.

02:13:25.000 When I hear about people not paying their taxes, I'm like, dude, listen.

02:13:28.000 This is not a good idea. 1.00

02:13:29.000 Pay the fucking taxes. 0.99

02:13:31.000 Finally, good to see Wesley Snipes back on the screen after he didn't pay his taxes. 1.00

02:13:35.000 Wasn't that why he went to jail and all kinds of crap happened to him?

02:13:38.000 I think he had a bad advisor.

02:13:40.000 I think it was part of the Sovereign Man movement where tax hasn't been ratified.

02:13:47.000 I'm just happy for the brother.

02:13:48.000 He's back.

02:13:49.000 He's back acting. 0.99

02:13:50.000 He's kicking ass. 0.98

02:13:51.000 He's in that Kevin Hart series, which we just started watching. 0.93

02:13:53.000 I'm a big fan of that dude, even though I was supposed to have an MMA fight with him at one point in time.

02:13:57.000 Oh, really? 1.00

02:13:57.000 You would have kicked his ass. 1.00

02:13:58.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:13:59.000 Who knows?

02:13:59.000 I think so.

02:14:00.000 Things happen.

02:14:01.000 People punch each other in the face.

02:14:02.000 You could still do it now, because you're a little older, you look all cool. 1.00

02:14:05.000 You look all little old and cool and shit. 0.97

02:14:07.000 You could just bulk up training. 0.99

02:14:09.000 I'd be in your corner holding the towel.

02:14:11.000 Dude, you don't want to get hit when you're 54. You don't want to get head kicked at 54. It's a terrible idea.

02:14:16.000 It's a terrible idea.

02:14:18.000 Literally, you could change your whole life.

02:14:20.000 Your reactions are slower.

02:14:21.000 I believe it.

02:14:22.000 I know you're kind of joking around, but just as a general rule, your reactions are slower.

02:14:27.000 No matter how good you think you are, even if you look fast, you're not as fast.

02:14:32.000 I'm pretty fast still, but I'm not as fast as I was when I was like 19 or 20. It's not even close.

02:14:37.000 And the difference is you're not as fast in getting away from stuff either.

02:14:40.000 And if you get head kicked at 54, you might wake up a totally different person.

02:14:44.000 You might wake up like really sad, serious depression. 0.88

02:14:47.000 Oh, really?

02:14:48.000 Oh, serious depression.

02:14:49.000 Happens to a lot of people with severe head injuries. 0.99

02:14:51.000 And believe me, getting head kicked is a fucking severe head injury. 0.99

02:14:55.000 It's severe. 0.99

02:14:56.000 If someone wheel kicks you in the face and knocks you unconscious, it's like getting hit with a bat. 1.00

02:15:00.000 And when people get hit with a bat, they're fucked, man. 1.00

02:15:03.000 They lose memories. 1.00

02:15:04.000 They have severe problems sometimes with their endocrine system because their testosterone shuts down.

02:15:10.000 It's a shock to the system.

02:15:12.000 Yeah, when you get rattled, your pituitary gland is very delicate, and your pituitary gland gets rocked.

02:15:18.000 Dr. Mark Gordon covered that with all of his TBI research, that people that were kicking down doors and blowing up things in the military.

02:15:25.000 Military, sure.

02:15:26.000 Lots of brain trauma.

02:15:28.000 Football players, a lot of fighters, and that's where this all comes from, is that the brain's super delicate. 0.99

02:15:33.000 There's real good therapies that they've devised, like magnetics and some other stuff with hormone replacement and stuff, but make no mistake about it, getting hit in the head is fucking terrible. 0.78

02:15:42.000 This is why I always protected my head with a big helmet of hair. 0.59

02:15:46.000 Nice.

02:15:47.000 I tried.

02:15:48.000 I did my best.

02:15:49.000 I didn't mean it that way.

02:15:50.000 You did?

02:15:51.000 You're hair shaming me.

02:15:53.000 No, not at all.

02:15:54.000 I didn't mean it that way.

02:15:54.000 Listen, that's one thing that I'm not insecure about anymore.

02:15:57.000 I was when I was younger and I was losing my hair.

02:15:59.000 But now that I've shaved my head, I wish I could have shaved it from the beginning.

02:16:01.000 I would have definitely shaved it from the beginning.

02:16:03.000 It's so much easier.

02:16:04.000 Well, it took me decades to just cut it short. 0.99

02:16:08.000 Just fucking cut it. 0.99

02:16:09.000 And now like, oh my god, I actually get my hair wet under the shower. 0.99

02:16:13.000 I used to have to shower like this because it would take forever to dry, to tease, to spray.

02:16:18.000 Lovely locks.

02:16:19.000 You have matured from a beautiful, pretty man until a perfect gentleman.

02:16:24.000 A silver fox.

02:16:26.000 A silver fox.

02:16:27.000 An established gentleman at your age.

02:16:29.000 When you were young, you were boy pretty, but you still managed to be intelligent.

02:16:33.000 I was not boy pretty until I got on television. 0.98

02:16:37.000 I was awkward, had the wrong pants on, had shitty hair. 0.96

02:16:41.000 How is that possible? 1.00

02:16:41.000 You're fucking beautiful. 1.00

02:16:43.000 God damn it, Adam Curry! 1.00

02:16:44.000 This is my swamp thing appearance. 1.00

02:16:47.000 This was Hollywood Adam Curry. 1.00

02:16:48.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

02:16:49.000 I can't look like that. 1.00

02:16:50.000 You're beautiful.

02:16:51.000 I think I was 25, 26. Yeah.

02:16:56.000 Perfect age. 0.99

02:16:57.000 You're a goddamn right peach. 0.99

02:16:59.000 Look at you. 0.99

02:17:00.000 Look at you, fella.

02:17:03.000 That's what I love about your direction.

02:17:05.000 The way you've gone with things.

02:17:06.000 Everything's decentralized.

02:17:07.000 The way you do your podcast.

02:17:09.000 The way you have people kind of donate and support it.

02:17:11.000 The way you have everything set up.

02:17:12.000 It's really fascinating.

02:17:13.000 I can't wait to welcome you back.

02:17:15.000 I'm eventually probably going to have to go to something like that.

02:17:17.000 Brother, I'm there for you.

02:17:19.000 I take care of you. 1.00

02:17:20.000 We make that shit work. 1.00

02:17:21.000 We'll get you paid in Bitcoin in real time. 1.00

02:17:23.000 Bam! 0.98

02:17:24.000 Value for value.

02:17:25.000 Streaming Satoshis.

02:17:26.000 It's fine right now, though.

02:17:27.000 Everything right now is working really well.

02:17:28.000 No, you're good now.

02:17:28.000 You're good now, of course.

02:17:30.000 But you've got negotiations coming up, obviously.

02:17:32.000 I'm not worried about that.

02:17:33.000 I'm not even thinking about that.

02:17:34.000 You've got great people around you.

02:17:36.000 What I don't think about.

02:17:37.000 Yes, I do.

02:17:38.000 But what I think about is keep doing it the way I'm doing it.

02:17:41.000 Yeah.

02:17:42.000 And try to make it better.

02:17:43.000 That's what I think about.

02:17:44.000 Try to get more interesting people on and try to talk to them.

02:17:49.000 You're like a man.

02:17:50.000 When you're going to light a cigar, you should use a torch.

02:17:52.000 Sorry.

02:17:53.000 I just have a wimpy.

02:17:54.000 Yeah, thank you.

02:17:55.000 Don't be wimpy, bro.

02:17:57.000 Well, that's all.

02:17:58.000 But that's why you're so great.

02:18:00.000 Because I don't think you've ever...

02:18:01.000 You're probably like me at a certain point.

02:18:04.000 Whether you were making a lot of money or not, you probably just stopped worrying about it.

02:18:07.000 Yes. 0.89

02:18:08.000 And that was probably when you didn't have all that much and you just went, I'm just not going to fucking worry about this.

02:18:13.000 That was my Fear Factor days.

02:18:14.000 Because I could stop thinking about it.

02:18:16.000 Because you're always worried when you're an actor in particular that you're never going to get cast for things too.

02:18:20.000 Never going to get to work again.

02:18:21.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:18:21.000 And then one of the things that I thought about with Fear Factor was like, oh, this isn't even a fucking acting gig. 0.96

02:18:26.000 Like, how crazy is this? 0.98

02:18:28.000 That was written for you, man. 1.00

02:18:29.000 That was fucking written for you. 1.00

02:18:31.000 Was that an End The Mall production? 1.00

02:18:32.000 Yes, it was.

02:18:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:33.000 I know John.

02:18:35.000 Oh, they're nice folks.

02:18:37.000 All the people I work with are really nice.

02:18:39.000 The producers and everyone.

02:18:41.000 It was a cool place to work.

02:18:42.000 And it was also, like, I didn't take it seriously.

02:18:47.000 That's how I got the job.

02:18:48.000 I went in there and started making fun of everything.

02:18:49.000 Like, they wanted a spooky host.

02:18:51.000 Like, what you were about to do.

02:18:53.000 Right.

02:18:53.000 And I was like, dude, you're sticking dogs on people.

02:18:55.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

02:18:57.000 How can you not be? 1.00

02:18:58.000 And I showed up for the first meeting high as fuck. 0.99

02:19:01.000 Because I didn't think it was serious. 0.99

02:19:03.000 I was like, what are they doing?

02:19:05.000 Like, what is this?

02:19:05.000 Was it just like, okay, this could run three episodes.

02:19:08.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.98

02:19:09.000 I had been given a bunch of wacky pitches. 0.99

02:19:11.000 As me as the...

02:19:12.000 Right, right, right.

02:19:13.000 There was like a pilot I did once.

02:19:14.000 Me as the...

02:19:16.000 A judge on like people's disputes and I had to like like with humor and it was a comedian that was my sidekick who was the The cop so there's a bunch of wild pitches like that.

02:19:28.000 So there's another wild pitch.

02:19:29.000 Like night court almost.

02:19:31.000 Yeah, yeah, so this was a Judge Judy type deal But funny supposedly.

02:19:35.000 Okay, but probably not but this is so there's been a lot of wacky pitches So when this one came my way, I was like what are they gonna do? 0.98

02:19:41.000 A game show where they're gonna make people eat bugs like what the fuck are you talking about? 0.97

02:19:45.000 So I said, okay, I'll go. 0.99

02:19:46.000 I'll go down there.

02:19:47.000 And I was making fun of it.

02:19:48.000 But my buddy David Hurwitz, he's the reason why I probably wind up getting the gig.

02:19:53.000 I'm more than sure. 0.89

02:19:54.000 It's because he was like, guys, this is ridiculous. 0.83

02:19:56.000 He's the only one making fun of it. 0.88

02:19:58.000 We can't have someone serious.

02:19:59.000 Have someone make fun of it.

02:20:00.000 Because the audience is going to be making fun of it at home.

02:20:03.000 Definitely part of the cultural demise.

02:20:05.000 That was it.

02:20:06.000 Totally.

02:20:07.000 Once we got people eating bugs on television for fun and profit, that's why they're coming, brother.

02:20:13.000 You're going to be eating bugs on your burger bun.

02:20:15.000 That's what's happening.

02:20:16.000 It's you, Joe Rogan.

02:20:17.000 I've had bugs before.

02:20:17.000 Bugs are decent protein.

02:20:18.000 Sure they are.

02:20:19.000 If you're starving, eat any bugs.

02:20:19.000 But let's eat some steak.

02:20:20.000 Yes.

02:20:21.000 From that protected bison who we just saw there. 0.99

02:20:23.000 Only if the United States killed bison. 1.00

02:20:25.000 We have to kill it. 1.00

02:20:26.000 We have to kill it personally. 1.00

02:20:27.000 And we'll distribute it. 1.00

02:20:28.000 With a big fucking cannon, because that's how we roll. 0.99

02:20:30.000 They're going to distribute bison the way they distribute monoclonal antibodies. 0.99

02:20:34.000 Don't get me started.

02:20:35.000 You've got too much bison. 1.00

02:20:37.000 Your children are too strong, and they're winning at football.

02:20:39.000 This is inequitable.

02:20:40.000 Well, yes, Joe.

02:20:43.000 That is exactly what's happening.

02:20:44.000 That is exactly what's happening.

02:20:46.000 We're going to evenly distribute the bison throughout all 50 states.

02:20:49.000 People can just opt out.

02:20:51.000 Well, they need to.

02:20:52.000 And when you see someone who's kind of waking up, don't ridicule them.

02:20:55.000 I'm not talking to you.

02:20:56.000 I'm talking in general.

02:20:57.000 People ridicule people.

02:20:58.000 They drag them on Twitter.

02:20:59.000 Oh, you said it all wrong last time.

02:21:01.000 Right.

02:21:03.000 Embrace them.

02:21:04.000 Yeah.

02:21:05.000 Trinity and Neo.

02:21:06.000 Pull them out of the sludge into the goo.

02:21:09.000 It's hard for people to admit they made a mistake.

02:21:11.000 It's very hard.

02:21:12.000 It's the worst, of course.

02:21:13.000 Very hard.

02:21:13.000 Of course.

02:21:14.000 It's really important.

02:21:15.000 You gotta do it.

02:21:15.000 And I'm sure I'll have to be admitting mistakes in this show for a long time, because I always make mistakes.

02:21:21.000 Yeah, I make mistakes all the time.

02:21:22.000 And I have no expertise.

02:21:24.000 But there's also mistakes not just in facts, but there's mistakes in philosophy.

02:21:27.000 Like, you could have a bad idea of how things should be, and you've committed to that bad idea, and you defend that bad idea.

02:21:33.000 And you haven't really had time to just sit down and think it through in its entirety, objectively divorced from your own adopted opinions.

02:21:42.000 The opinions that you took on, that you're defending, divorce it from those and just look at it. 0.93

02:21:47.000 And that's hard for people to do because we're so fucking tribal.

02:21:50.000 And these ideas, whatever they are, get locked up into a group. 0.94

02:21:53.000 You're on this group, you believe this.

02:21:55.000 You're on that group.

02:21:56.000 I had a long argument with a friend of mine once about abortion.

02:21:59.000 It wasn't an argument.

02:22:00.000 It was like a weird conversation where they were like, it's always a woman's right to choose.

02:22:06.000 And I said, okay, but what about when the baby's like eight and a half months?

02:22:11.000 Isn't that a different thing?

02:22:12.000 Is it a different thing when it's five cells than it is when it's eight and a half months?

02:22:17.000 I mean, I'm not saying what- Depending on where you're coming from, sure.

02:22:20.000 He didn't want to admit that.

02:22:22.000 It was a thing where he didn't want to discuss it.

02:22:24.000 I said, okay, listen, I'm not a pro-life person.

02:22:28.000 I believe a woman should be the one who makes the decision if she wants an abortion. 0.98

02:22:34.000 100%.

02:22:34.000 But at a certain point in time, it becomes kind of crazy.

02:22:38.000 Right?

02:22:39.000 Like, admitted that when the baby's about to be born, the day it's about to be born, if you decide to kill the baby hours before it's born while it's in the womb, that's a different thing than an abortion when a baby is like six hours old, right?

02:22:52.000 Or when the sperm has cracked the egg.

02:22:54.000 I believe so.

02:22:55.000 Right.

02:22:55.000 It's different.

02:22:56.000 He didn't even want to say that.

02:22:57.000 And I was like, but this is a thing, right?

02:22:59.000 This is a real thing.

02:23:00.000 This is not a value.

02:23:01.000 I'm not making a judgment about what people should or shouldn't be able to do or what law is.

02:23:05.000 I'm just saying, don't you admit there's a difference between those things.

02:23:08.000 And the resistance of even discussing this was fascinating because it was like someone who had like a spell around them and they couldn't, there's no, I can't discuss, cannot discuss.

02:23:19.000 Like, do not talk.

02:23:20.000 Do not talk about this one thing.

02:23:22.000 It didn't want to acknowledge that they're different because if you do, then you set up the narrative that abortion is murder and that abortion should be evil and that now you're a pro-life person.

02:23:33.000 And you don't want to be a pro-life person because they're the crazies that attack capital.

02:23:36.000 That's the January 6th people, right? 0.72

02:23:38.000 So there's these ideologies that are attached to these things in this way that's almost inescapable if you're on team blue or if you're on team red. 0.99

02:23:47.000 You've got to stick to these fucking thoughts. 0.96

02:23:50.000 Well, unfortunately, both Team Blue and Team Red in Texas created this controversy specifically for this election. 1.00

02:23:58.000 This law that was passed is, I don't think there's any reasonable person that can think that, you know, you're 12 weeks in or whatever it was, six weeks.

02:24:08.000 I mean, no reasonable person can think that that's reasonable for detection.

02:24:13.000 Leave that as it is.

02:24:16.000 Then the whole, which was not true, you can rat on your neighbor and the Uber driver can report you.

02:24:23.000 That turned out to be not true.

02:24:24.000 You can sue a clerk who issues a license.

02:24:27.000 The whole point is, it's not about the actual choice of a woman or the life of the child. 0.99

02:24:33.000 It's about who fucking wins the election. 0.99

02:24:36.000 And that's what they do. 1.00

02:24:37.000 And I hate them equally for that.

02:24:39.000 That's what they're doing.

02:24:41.000 This was my super cynical tinfoil hat thought.

02:24:44.000 I was saying if I was a progressive person, I would promote some ridiculous law that's definitely going to get overturned.

02:24:51.000 That way people get up in arms.

02:24:53.000 I think the Republicans in Texas slipped and they let this one happen.

02:24:57.000 Do you think they let this happen because...

02:24:59.000 The Democrats let it happen so they'd be able to hammer the Republicans in the 2022 midterms.

02:25:04.000 That's what I was asking.

02:25:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:25:05.000 I'm all tinfoil hat.

02:25:07.000 No, it's not tinfoil hat.

02:25:08.000 You're now a political consultant.

02:25:10.000 Are you a Fed? 1.00

02:25:11.000 He's fucking dragging me into the most ridiculous ideas and I agree with him. 1.00

02:25:15.000 I know. 1.00

02:25:16.000 You're influencing me.

02:25:18.000 Are you an influencer?

02:25:19.000 Yes.

02:25:19.000 This is the issue, and it's been driven.

02:25:24.000 We are afraid to sit down and have honest conversations.

02:25:28.000 Yes. 0.98

02:25:28.000 I'm honest with you 100-fucking-percent. 0.98

02:25:30.000 I believe that. 0.87

02:25:31.000 I know you're the same with me right now at this moment.

02:25:33.000 Yes.

02:25:33.000 When I do it with Mo Fax, we're honest.

02:25:35.000 And we're very different.

02:25:36.000 He's black, I'm white.

02:25:37.000 Both American men.

02:25:39.000 Little age difference.

02:25:41.000 Dvorak and Curry.

02:25:42.000 It's honest.

02:25:43.000 My wife and I, we talk honest.

02:25:45.000 People need to be honest with each other.

02:25:47.000 The truth has been lost.

02:25:49.000 We're hiding.

02:25:51.000 Without sitting down and just being honest and saying, we're going to love each other after this, whether we agree or not.

02:25:58.000 Let's just talk.

02:25:59.000 Let it be said now that I recognize right now that Adam Curry is a spokesperson for big mind reading.

02:26:04.000 This is what's going on, because once big mind reading comes along, you don't have to worry about being honest, because everyone's going to read minds.

02:26:10.000 You're going to promote this technology.

02:26:11.000 It's going to be decentralized mind reading technology.

02:26:15.000 I should have brought more weed for Adam Curry.

02:26:18.000 I have my own.

02:26:19.000 All-day smokers.

02:26:20.000 I have my own.

02:26:21.000 Are you an all-day guy?

02:26:23.000 Pretty much.

02:26:23.000 Because you put me under the table in this podcast.

02:26:25.000 We went through that one blunt, and when we were three or four hits in...

02:26:28.000 I like that the most, actually, the blunt.

02:26:30.000 Hello, world!

02:26:31.000 Do you have another one of those?

02:26:32.000 I want to take one of those.

02:26:33.000 I'll give you one.

02:26:34.000 Paralyzed man posts tweet using only his mind. 0.60

02:26:37.000 Yeah, I saw that.

02:26:38.000 Thanks to brain implant.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, well, that's how they're going to get it with the Neuralink as well.

02:26:42.000 Elon has openly said that the best use of that would be people who have had spinal injuries.

02:26:49.000 They're going to have regained full function.

02:26:51.000 I thought that what was also, that they might be able to reprogram some things if there's been some kind of neural pathway break, so not necessarily that you are hooked up to a machine, but they can actually do some reprogramming and fix certain things.

02:27:06.000 Yeah, fix it to make you more friendly to the state.

02:27:09.000 An assassin? 1.00

02:27:10.000 No, a fucking assassin. 1.00

02:27:11.000 Adam? 1.00

02:27:11.000 Yeah, Manchurian Candidate type deal? 1.00

02:27:13.000 Well, okay, so...

02:27:14.000 Jack Ruby.

02:27:15.000 Back in the day, we can look it up exactly when, They were giving away free lobotomies in Central Park.

02:27:23.000 And people lined up to get their lobotomy.

02:27:26.000 What?

02:27:27.000 Where they literally would drill a hole, they'd go in, they'd pull out your frontal lobe, whatever that little thing is, and people were happy because they'd heard, this is the thing I want.

02:27:35.000 Where is this?

02:27:36.000 In New York City?

02:27:37.000 Just look it up.

02:27:38.000 Frontal lobotomy.

02:27:39.000 What year is this?

02:27:40.000 I'm afraid to say, but it's going to be around...

02:27:43.000 There we go.

02:27:44.000 Scary days when thousands were lobotomized on Long Island. 1.00

02:27:48.000 Holy fuck! 1.00

02:27:49.000 Yeah, 1958 to 1974. Holy shit! 1.00

02:27:53.000 You didn't know this? 1.00

02:27:54.000 No! 0.98

02:27:55.000 This is why Americans are weird, man. 1.00

02:27:58.000 We buy Nikes and we take vaccines.

02:28:00.000 Let's read this.

02:28:01.000 You have to wonder about Henry Brill's sanity, a Yale-educated psychiatrist.

02:28:07.000 He was a director of Pilgrim State Psychiatric Center from 1958 to 1974. During the later stages of his tenure, the world's largest mental hospital...

02:28:19.000 He was a national leader in the fight against marijuana.

02:28:23.000 Head of the state's Drug Abuse Commission, he rallied against the evil impact that marijuana had on people's brains.

02:28:29.000 Big talk from a guy who...

02:28:31.000 Around 2,000 Pilgrim patients were lobotomized in the 40s and the 50s. 1.00

02:28:36.000 Holy fuck! 0.99

02:28:37.000 But there were people going willingly to Central Park, you know, where they draw caricatures of you? 1.00

02:28:42.000 Hold on, but...

02:28:43.000 Go back, go back, go back, go back.

02:28:45.000 Okay.

02:28:46.000 2,000 Pilgrim patients were lobotomized in the 40s and 50s, according to the later reports from the New York Times and elsewhere.

02:28:53.000 Though lobotomies were probably performed at mental hospitals in Central Islip and Creedmoor, among other places, one out of every 25 lobotomies performed in the United States took place at Pilgrim, making it undoubtedly the scariest place in Long Island. 0.99

02:29:08.000 Holy fuck, man. 0.99

02:29:10.000 But this is just the technology that was being perfected. 1.00

02:29:14.000 But when they were out there saying, hey, you should come and take this, people were like, oh, I got a lobotomy.

02:29:18.000 And so they did it for free.

02:29:20.000 So they would set it up where you didn't have to be diagnosed?

02:29:21.000 I think you paid for it.

02:29:23.000 You paid for it.

02:29:24.000 Yeah.

02:29:27.000 Americans are interesting people.

02:29:28.000 Well, if you don't pay for it, you don't think it's worth it.

02:29:30.000 It's like how they figure out tickets at comedy clubs.

02:29:32.000 You give away free tickets, people don't care about the show.

02:29:33.000 Don't come to the show.

02:29:34.000 No, of course not.

02:29:35.000 They come, but they don't pay attention.

02:29:36.000 They don't really care. 1.00

02:29:37.000 You don't want those fuckers. 1.00

02:29:38.000 They don't drink either. 1.00

02:29:40.000 That's the future.

02:29:41.000 NFT is the future of ticket scalping.

02:29:43.000 That is wild, man.

02:29:45.000 Yeah.

02:29:45.000 Isn't that cool?

02:29:46.000 Well, I guess in the 40s and 50s, they thought, some of these people, you just can't fix them. 1.00

02:29:50.000 Just get in there and fucking... 1.00

02:29:52.000 But the people were legit just like, you know, I'm unhappy. 1.00

02:29:55.000 I've never seen a lobotomized person communicate.

02:29:58.000 Have you?

02:29:59.000 Joe Biden.

02:30:01.000 He's not lobotomized.

02:30:03.000 They just planted him in that pet cemetery.

02:30:04.000 The top of his head has been off two or three times.

02:30:07.000 Yes.

02:30:07.000 Yeah.

02:30:08.000 Yeah, it's got to be some concern.

02:30:09.000 Hey, it's a miracle of modern science that you can get the top of your head removed and still be the commander of the free world.

02:30:15.000 Twice.

02:30:16.000 Put it back on and it works great.

02:30:17.000 It works great.

02:30:19.000 40% agree.

02:30:20.000 No malarkey.

02:30:21.000 Do you find anything about a lobotomized person communicating?

02:30:25.000 They must have like a video of them.

02:30:27.000 Yeah, you could just talk normally.

02:30:28.000 For sure.

02:30:29.000 You could talk normally.

02:30:30.000 But I don't think I've seen that.

02:30:31.000 I don't think lobotomized people necessarily...

02:30:34.000 Well, let's find out.

02:30:35.000 Oh, okay.

02:30:36.000 To the book of knowledge, YouTube it is.

02:30:39.000 I mean, there's got to be a video somewhere of someone who's been lobotomized.

02:30:45.000 Interview of a lobotomy patient.

02:30:47.000 Ooh, let me hear this.

02:30:48.000 Right?

02:30:48.000 Okay, before we get it going, what is your prediction?

02:30:53.000 Do you think the person will be slow or do you think they'll be distant?

02:30:57.000 Do you think you'll be able to tell?

02:30:58.000 Yeah, I think it'll be a little wooly.

02:31:00.000 They'll come across as kind of wooly, you know.

02:31:03.000 Oh, yeah?

02:31:03.000 Wooly?

02:31:04.000 Wooly?

02:31:04.000 Like wool in their brains?

02:31:06.000 No, just kind of like their gauze in front of them, kind of like, oh, yeah, that's okay.

02:31:11.000 Oh, yeah, Joe Rogan.

02:31:13.000 That's really good.

02:31:13.000 It seems like there's a popular one that's coming up a few times, a guy named Howard that was lobotomized when he was 12 by this guy.

02:31:19.000 I'm sure that's going to be fucking crazy. 0.97

02:31:22.000 But he's talking, at least the look... 0.98

02:31:23.000 Oh boy, the video is crazy because you see the kid when his eyes are puffy after they lobotomized him.

02:31:29.000 Is this Howard right here?

02:31:30.000 Yeah, that's him talking, so he seems to be pretty coherent.

02:31:32.000 What, just from that one second with no audio?

02:31:35.000 Jamie, you're a fed.

02:31:36.000 I'm surrounded by feds.

02:31:38.000 Hello.

02:31:39.000 You were right.

02:31:39.000 Not me.

02:31:40.000 The other two said I was just a normal kid.

02:31:43.000 Back several times.

02:31:45.000 That looks pretty normal. 1.00

02:31:46.000 That ass needs a lobotomy. 1.00

02:31:48.000 Give me some volume so I can hear them. 1.00

02:31:51.000 I have it up as loud as I can get right now for some reason.

02:31:54.000 I probably was seen three times.

02:31:57.000 See?

02:31:58.000 Kind of what I said.

02:31:59.000 Where's the hole?

02:31:59.000 My pregnant was very personal.

02:32:00.000 There's no hole.

02:32:01.000 Come on. 0.96

02:32:02.000 So that's the fucked up part about it, which I looked, when I was looking this up recently, because there was some stuff, it was still going on in the 70s and 80s. 0.95

02:32:09.000 They go through the eyeball? 0.98

02:32:10.000 They go through your eyeball.

02:32:11.000 Ah!

02:32:12.000 A nice pick.

02:32:13.000 There you go.

02:32:13.000 Oh, Jesus!

02:32:14.000 And they just scramble it?

02:32:15.000 Yeah.

02:32:15.000 Oh, my God.

02:32:16.000 I think before that, Jamie, I think the turn of the century is when they were really doing it full time in New York City.

02:32:22.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:32:22.000 There's the tools right there. 0.71

02:32:23.000 Yeah.

02:32:24.000 Stick it in there.

02:32:24.000 Miracle cure.

02:32:25.000 See?

02:32:25.000 Miracle cure.

02:32:26.000 Miracle cure.

02:32:27.000 Oh my God.

02:32:28.000 Yeah.

02:32:28.000 Miracle cure, baby.

02:32:30.000 Now, there was anesthetic back then, right?

02:32:32.000 General anesthesia? 1.00

02:32:33.000 No, just jam that shit in, man. 1.00

02:32:34.000 No? 1.00

02:32:35.000 Have general anesthesia?

02:32:36.000 Have some bourbon.

02:32:38.000 When was general anesthesia?

02:32:39.000 Doing anesthesia.

02:32:39.000 Oh my god!

02:32:41.000 Oh my god!

02:32:42.000 Oh my god!

02:32:44.000 Described as easier than curing a toothache. 1.00

02:32:47.000 Look at the guy with the fucking sleeveless shirt on. 1.00

02:32:49.000 He's like, hey, I got out of the fucking gym. 1.00

02:32:52.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:32:53.000 He's hammering that thing into the eyeball.

02:32:55.000 And they're just holding her hands down.

02:32:58.000 Look at that guy to the upper left. 0.97

02:32:59.000 He's about to do that on a prostitute later that evening. 0.98

02:33:01.000 He's like, hmm, duly noted. 0.99

02:33:04.000 Look, there's some politician standing there, too.

02:33:06.000 What's that guy doing in the middle?

02:33:08.000 Those are the guys that presided over the Warren Commission report.

02:33:11.000 Look at them.

02:33:12.000 Look at them.

02:33:13.000 This is wild.

02:33:15.000 Oh, my God.

02:33:15.000 At least those people have gloves on.

02:33:16.000 Well, now I support this tactic.

02:33:18.000 Hey, they have cloth masks. 1.00

02:33:20.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

02:33:20.000 Cloth masks. 1.00

02:33:21.000 Oh, what's going on here?

02:33:23.000 Oh, my God.

02:33:24.000 That's the electroshock therapy. 1.00

02:33:25.000 Oh, God damn it. 0.99

02:33:28.000 And again, they do it with these Guido shirts on. 0.99

02:33:30.000 Got that big bruise there.

02:33:31.000 Someone didn't like it. 1.00

02:33:33.000 You guys are insane. 1.00

02:33:35.000 You guys are crazy. 1.00

02:33:36.000 We're crazy. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Look at this. 0.95

02:33:38.000 They're cutting open heads.

02:33:39.000 They're cutting open heads there.

02:33:40.000 That one they just cut open and they just drilled it.

02:33:43.000 They tried different methods.

02:33:44.000 I read that this guy, Walter Freeman, he gave most of them.

02:33:49.000 The guy with the sleeveless shirt? 1.00

02:33:51.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:33:52.000 He was doing a hundred a day at one point, I think. 1.00

02:33:55.000 Imagine you show up and you're like, why do you have no sleeves? 0.99

02:33:59.000 He's like, I do so many lobotomies, my fucking arms get hot. 0.89

02:34:02.000 He's like, he's sleeveless, he's at Gold's Gym. 1.00

02:34:05.000 So, but just imagine, the newspapers are like, you see it, it's like, this is great shit. 1.00

02:34:10.000 And Americans, of course, it's great shit, man. 1.00

02:34:13.000 Everyone's doing it. 1.00

02:34:14.000 Let me get a fucking lobotomy. 1.00

02:34:15.000 Right. 1.00

02:34:15.000 It helped me. 1.00

02:34:16.000 It helped me cope.

02:34:17.000 This is our...

02:34:19.000 Culture.

02:34:19.000 We have to be cognizant of that.

02:34:21.000 It's not necessarily healthy.

02:34:23.000 Well, when someone's cranked out on opioids, isn't that some kind of a similar type of a deal? 1.00

02:34:28.000 It's not a lobotomy, but it's most certainly a reduction of who the fuck you are. 1.00

02:34:33.000 And you just drop into a... 1.00

02:34:38.000 Opioids is really, truly evil.

02:34:40.000 I mean, the problem is you can't stop.

02:34:42.000 Getting off of it, from what I understand, you literally feel like you're dying.

02:34:46.000 You're dying.

02:34:47.000 It's very hard to stop.

02:34:49.000 And that's the problem. 0.99

02:34:50.000 So the mislabeling, all that shit is what caused the problem and continues to cause it. 0.98

02:34:54.000 I haven't done it. 0.98

02:34:55.000 You haven't done it.

02:34:56.000 Now, according to Dr. Carl Hart, who I respect dearly, deeply.

02:35:00.000 It's life-saving for some people.

02:35:01.000 He's a different character, and his take on it is that getting off of opiates is like a flu.

02:35:07.000 Oh, really?

02:35:08.000 Yeah, he's like, it's not that big a deal.

02:35:09.000 He said it's greatly exaggerated by pop culture, and then Gabor Mate, when he talks about addiction, he said most of it's tied to trauma.

02:35:18.000 Some of it is clearly genetic.

02:35:20.000 That would make sense.

02:35:21.000 With some folks, it's clearly genetic.

02:35:23.000 A whole history of alcoholism in the family. 1.00

02:35:26.000 We all know those alcoholics that they have one drink and then fucking shark eyes. 0.99

02:35:31.000 They're gone. 1.00

02:35:33.000 Whatever the fuck goes on in that alcoholic, it's a different thing. 1.00

02:35:37.000 They have a couple of drinks and they're gone. 0.99

02:35:38.000 They're not even there anymore.

02:35:39.000 You're like, hello?

02:35:40.000 They can't communicate with you.

02:35:42.000 They're whacked out.

02:35:43.000 They're gone.

02:35:43.000 Well, I think that is...

02:35:46.000 We've got to take that into consideration when it comes to heroin.

02:35:48.000 But for Carl, when he was a, and I hope I'm not fucking this up, but he was a very straight-laced guy.

02:35:56.000 He wasn't into drugs, then he became a clinical researcher.

02:35:58.000 And during that time period, when he started really understanding the mechanisms around these drugs and what they actually do, and then all the unjust laws, like the difference between the sentencing for crack versus cocaine, which is crazy.

02:36:10.000 Because he's like, they're exactly the same thing in terms of the effect on the body.

02:36:14.000 And he was explaining all this stuff to me.

02:36:15.000 He's like, he loves heroin.

02:36:17.000 He says, heroin's wonderful.

02:36:18.000 He goes, if you get pure heroin, he goes, it's beautiful.

02:36:21.000 It makes you appreciate things, makes you appreciate your relationships.

02:36:24.000 It's like, the heroin's not the problem.

02:36:26.000 The problem is that it's illegal, that you're buying stuff that's laced with fentanyl, the public perceptions of it, the way we look at drugs.

02:36:32.000 And his idea is you don't want a world that's drug free.

02:36:36.000 You want responsible, educated drug use.

02:36:39.000 And when it comes to a guy who's a professor at Columbia, a brilliant guy, By the way, it looks like he does a lot of drugs.

02:36:45.000 He's got like crazy dreadlocks.

02:36:47.000 Is he an influencer?

02:36:48.000 Well, he influenced me.

02:36:49.000 I mean, not that I tried heroin, but he influenced me to change my thoughts of what, you know, we have these ideas about how hard it is to get off these drugs.

02:36:58.000 Well, for some people, it is, right?

02:37:00.000 Like for some people, you can get drunk and you don't want to get drunk again.

02:37:03.000 Some people, they can't stop.

02:37:04.000 Well, clearly, no medication is good for everybody.

02:37:09.000 Unlike the mRNA, which is one size fits all.

02:37:12.000 What's your number?

02:37:15.000 So I can't speak towards opioids or heroin because I've tried neither.

02:37:19.000 I think there is a difference.

02:37:20.000 But most importantly, we're just being lied to and just being told that there's no addictive properties to it.

02:37:27.000 When your dosage is just up and up and up and up.

02:37:30.000 At a certain point, I think that...

02:37:33.000 I just wonder how much of that detoxing is painful or not.

02:37:38.000 I mean, I've only heard contrary to that opinion.

02:37:41.000 No, no, I'm sure the flu sucks. 0.84

02:37:43.000 Don't get me wrong. 0.99

02:37:43.000 The flu's fucking painful, right? 0.99

02:37:45.000 If you've had a bad flu, it's awful. 0.99

02:37:47.000 Your body aches, you're sweating like crazy, but what he's saying is it's like that.

02:37:51.000 You get over it.

02:37:52.000 It's not like that.

02:37:53.000 You can physically live, yes, of course.

02:37:55.000 But two drugs, you can't.

02:37:57.000 Alcohol and benzodiazepine.

02:37:58.000 Yeah, the benzos are the dangerous ones, yeah. 1.00

02:38:01.000 That's the Jordan Peterson story.

02:38:03.000 Yeah, oh my god, and what a story that is.

02:38:05.000 It's an amazing story. 0.99

02:38:06.000 How fucked is that? 0.99

02:38:07.000 It's an amazing story, especially when you realize how smart he is, and that he didn't know, and he got roped into it, and then he couldn't get off of him. 0.99

02:38:13.000 Oh, there's a lot of very smart people who are doing really dumb things right now, and they just don't realize it, and it's, you know...

02:38:20.000 Yeah, they're either uninformed or misinformed. 0.89

02:38:22.000 Under-informed and over-socialized.

02:38:24.000 That too.

02:38:25.000 That's a real problem in our society.

02:38:27.000 Well, especially when it comes to the idea that everybody should be taking something to control their mood and control their this.

02:38:33.000 Maybe some people should be.

02:38:35.000 How many kids in your daughter's classes take meds at some point during the day?

02:38:41.000 You know what?

02:38:41.000 If I really started digging around, I'd find that information.

02:38:43.000 I don't have it.

02:38:44.000 I don't know.

02:38:44.000 I know a couple of teachers in Austin, and it's a lot.

02:38:48.000 Well, I don't know anything about that, but what I do know is that I used to have a family that lived fairly close to my house, and their kid, they put him on something real early on, and I don't think he needed anything.

02:38:59.000 He seemed like a normal kid.

02:39:01.000 He just had a lot of energy, and they were deciding he had too much energy. 0.99

02:39:06.000 And so we were all like, you know, the people that knew the kid were like, what the fuck? 0.95

02:39:11.000 Like, you can't say anything, and you don't know what to do, and you don't know if they're right. 0.98

02:39:14.000 Like, maybe they're right.

02:39:15.000 Maybe we only see the best version of him.

02:39:17.000 I don't know. 0.96

02:39:19.000 But it's scary to think that he could have been just a normal kid with too much fucking energy and bouncing off the walls, and the parents didn't want to deal with it. 0.93

02:39:26.000 Or maybe just normal kid energy. 0.94

02:39:28.000 Just seem like a lot.

02:39:30.000 Kids are like puppies. 0.99

02:39:31.000 They have wild fucked up energy and they tear up your shoes. 1.00

02:39:33.000 Especially boys. 1.00

02:39:34.000 Especially boys. 0.99

02:39:35.000 I think like if I was with the wrong parents, you know, when I was young, I would have fucking for sure been medicated. 0.98

02:39:41.000 And then people are like, well that's good, you should have been medicated. 0.97

02:39:44.000 I don't know if that's correct.

02:39:46.000 Because I think that there's a whole reason why we have all those wacky ideas bouncing around inside of our heads.

02:39:51.000 It's what made a human being elevate from what it used to be a million years ago.

02:39:56.000 Wacky ideas.

02:39:57.000 We're stunting people's brains.

02:39:58.000 You're stopping it from thinking.

02:40:00.000 I mean, how can that be good?

02:40:02.000 You gotta have people that want to become mathematicians and you gotta have people that want to become rock stars.

02:40:06.000 You gotta. 0.94

02:40:07.000 And you gotta let them be whatever the fuck they want to be. 0.99

02:40:09.000 And some kids, they don't have a lot of energy, but they want to sit down and they want to compose music. 0.99

02:40:13.000 That's all they want to do.

02:40:14.000 Some kids, they just want to do backflips off trees. 0.99

02:40:17.000 And you gotta, both of those fucking kids, you gotta kind of like figure out what works for them and let them, it's the spice of life. 0.99

02:40:25.000 This variety of humans. 0.99

02:40:27.000 But when you're a kid and you're in school, they want you to sit down and pay attention. 0.99

02:40:30.000 And if you don't, They're gonna fucking drug you. 0.98

02:40:33.000 That's another part of the system that has to be changed. 0.99

02:40:36.000 Yeah, it does.

02:40:37.000 It really is.

02:40:38.000 It does.

02:40:39.000 Kids gotta be kids, man.

02:40:40.000 But it's hard. 1.00

02:40:41.000 It's hard for those little fuckers. 1.00

02:40:44.000 Well, growing up a kid today with all the fucking influences and all the craziness and, you know, all the bizarre aspects of our culture and the interconnectedness of it, and these kids are going to look like fucking pioneers. 1.00

02:40:59.000 They're going to look like the people who settled west to get gold in comparison to kids that are coming along 100 years from now. 0.98

02:41:05.000 If they take control of their own experiences, yes.

02:41:08.000 If they continuously allow, and most unwittingly, if they just don't know, if they allow other entities, artificial intelligence, whatever it is, control their experiences without human...

02:41:32.000 I don't think that'll be a good thing.

02:41:35.000 Do you think the fear is, and this is like a real long-term concept, The fear is that one day we'll decide that whatever does make us human, whether it's our emotions, our hormones, our desires and greed and jealousy and all those different things, are all a problem.

02:41:49.000 And they're not helping us achieve our goal.

02:41:51.000 And all those things can be slowly edited out.

02:41:54.000 Because think about all the damage that emotions have done.

02:41:57.000 Think about all the crimes of passion and all the fighting and all the hatefulness.

02:42:01.000 If we could just tamper those emotions and get them into a far more controllable vibration, And we can do that through CRISPR or whatever the fuck they decide to use or whatever Neuralink or whatever the new jazz is that comes along.

02:42:16.000 Influencers.

02:42:17.000 If they can figure out a way to say that what makes us human, our ability to emote, our ability to scream and to play crazy songs and to tell funny jokes and to write meaningful poems and all that stuff is a complex. 0.96

02:42:31.000 Like, mess of shit that we can't control and it's led to the demise of our civilization. 0.94

02:42:37.000 What do we love? 1.00

02:42:38.000 We love being together and love and camaraderie and we don't need them.

02:42:44.000 We just need love.

02:42:45.000 So we're going to engineer out the bad parts and keep only the good parts.

02:42:49.000 And by the way, love is love.

02:42:51.000 It doesn't matter who you love.

02:42:52.000 It doesn't matter.

02:42:53.000 Love is love.

02:42:54.000 Synthetic love has been proven in 16 different trials to be just as effective as real love.

02:42:59.000 That's right.

02:42:59.000 Now you can get your fifth booster of love.

02:43:02.000 It will make you die 20 years earlier, but those 20 years suck anyway.

02:43:05.000 It'll be great. 0.92

02:43:06.000 It'll be great.

02:43:06.000 Take me out at 80. Who wants to be 100?

02:43:08.000 I'm going to be 98. 98?

02:43:10.000 Just under Betty White, out of respect.

02:43:12.000 Of course.

02:43:13.000 Out of respect.

02:43:13.000 That's my number.

02:43:14.000 My grandparents got really old.

02:43:16.000 That's a good number.

02:43:17.000 And they both had hair.

02:43:18.000 Do you eat healthy?

02:43:19.000 Oh yeah, very healthy.

02:43:21.000 Beef, fish, almost no pasta.

02:43:24.000 Yeah, that's the move, man.

02:43:28.000 Raw vegetables.

02:43:30.000 We just buy vegetables, cook. 0.99

02:43:32.000 In Fredericksburg, where we live, there's some pretty damn good restaurants who are really cooking up some good shit. 0.99

02:43:38.000 That's nice. 0.98

02:43:39.000 Yeah, that's really nice.

02:43:40.000 That's nice.

02:43:40.000 Having good places you can visit that are near you.

02:43:41.000 And that's also, isn't it nice to support like a nice local restaurant?

02:43:44.000 Oh, my God.

02:43:45.000 You get to be friendly with the people.

02:43:46.000 Yeah.

02:43:46.000 Know the wait staff.

02:43:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:43:48.000 Oh, I love that.

02:43:49.000 Of course.

02:43:49.000 It's cool, right?

02:43:49.000 Of course.

02:43:50.000 Yeah.

02:43:51.000 But people are seeing this.

02:43:53.000 Silicon Valley people are the first ones. 0.99

02:43:54.000 They're like, shit, you know, Elon Starlink is up. 0.98

02:43:57.000 I don't have it yet. 0.99

02:43:58.000 I'm on the wait list.

02:43:59.000 I can live anywhere I want.

02:44:01.000 There's a wait list?

02:44:02.000 Yeah.

02:44:02.000 I've been on it for two years probably.

02:44:04.000 What's the holdup?

02:44:06.000 Not enough satellites in space.

02:44:08.000 Is that what it is, really?

02:44:08.000 Is that good?

02:44:11.000 No!

02:44:11.000 This is a total military project.

02:44:13.000 Elon is just selling it to us as cool internet, which is great.

02:44:17.000 Do you think he's a part of the military?

02:44:19.000 Everything he does is for the government.

02:44:21.000 Yeah!

02:44:22.000 What are you saying?

02:44:23.000 He's a great guy for that.

02:44:24.000 He's a great pitch man for, you know, for technology.

02:44:27.000 But he has to innovate.

02:44:28.000 If you're going to innovate, don't you think you have to deal with the government to take you out?

02:44:31.000 He didn't invent Tesla.

02:44:32.000 He didn't invent SpaceX.

02:44:34.000 He has vision.

02:44:35.000 He understands how to explain it.

02:44:37.000 He's very good at that.

02:44:38.000 He's quirky.

02:44:39.000 He has a whole bunch of great elements, you know, that just are the perfect guy for our era.

02:44:44.000 It's...

02:44:45.000 It's amazing to be alive at the same time as him.

02:44:47.000 Is he the big innovator?

02:44:49.000 No, I don't think necessarily.

02:44:50.000 I think he has a big network behind him, Sequoia Capital, there's a lot of people involved in Elon Musk.

02:44:56.000 For sure.

02:44:56.000 In my opinion.

02:44:59.000 That's just who I... I just think it's like...

02:45:01.000 Yeah.

02:45:02.000 He's a very controversial person, but he's a very nice guy.

02:45:05.000 I'm sure he's a nice guy. 0.98

02:45:06.000 And his ideas, I mean, if you looked at just the amount of innovation that one guy's been a part of, and some of them are crazy, like, not crazy, like, dumb, but I mean, like, insane, the idea of a tunnel that goes under L.A., like, and they're shooting people through these fucking tunnels with cars. 0.94

02:45:23.000 Like, how does someone even come up with that? 0.93

02:45:24.000 I even registered at one point databelt.com, because I was sure that we would have a belt of satellites around the Earth.

02:45:33.000 Now, was that far-fetched?

02:45:35.000 No, obviously not.

02:45:36.000 Was I unique in thinking that?

02:45:38.000 Clearly not.

02:45:39.000 Am I the guy who somehow got into the right place with the right investors, with the right pitch, with the right story?

02:45:45.000 No, that was Elon Musk.

02:45:47.000 So do you think that overall his contributions are a net positive or a negative?

02:45:54.000 Neutral.

02:45:55.000 I think on the entertainment scale, very high.

02:45:59.000 In terms of his tweets? 0.98

02:46:01.000 Well, also what he's been doing with Wall Street and how he's fucking with them all the time.

02:46:06.000 And he's a very precarious influencer, particularly for crypto.

02:46:10.000 He's very polarizing there for a whole bunch of reasons.

02:46:14.000 You've got, you know, there's enough conspiracy theories about him, but all I know is what I see.

02:46:19.000 I see the whole SpaceX thing is all U.S. military.

02:46:22.000 The satellite's in the sky.

02:46:24.000 We're going to have great internet.

02:46:25.000 I love him for that.

02:46:27.000 Great marketing to the people.

02:46:29.000 Meanwhile... 1.00

02:46:29.000 That's your fucking Space Force. 1.00

02:46:31.000 That's your Skynet. 1.00

02:46:32.000 We'll have everybody surveilled all the time.

02:46:34.000 Is what I feel that is.

02:46:36.000 Here's what my worry is.

02:46:37.000 That that'll be a way they keep us on planet Earth.

02:46:39.000 They just blanket the sky with satellites so it's impossible to leave.

02:46:42.000 Brother, show me one billionaire that can actually get into... 1.00

02:46:45.000 Just send something to the moon, bitch. 1.00

02:46:47.000 Send something alive to the moon and then I'll believe that we can go off world. 0.99

02:46:51.000 I'm very skeptical now, man.

02:46:53.000 You're very skeptical?

02:46:53.000 There's enough money for us to replicate something that happened...

02:46:58.000 55 years ago.

02:47:00.000 Are you skeptical of the potential of it happening or are you skeptical about whether it happened?

02:47:04.000 Both.

02:47:06.000 Both.

02:47:07.000 You went there.

02:47:07.000 Well, the Van Allen belt.

02:47:08.000 You went there.

02:47:09.000 Now the new NASA scientists who don't remember the original moon landings, I guess, like, well, it's going to be hard to get through the Van Allen belt.

02:47:17.000 You know, humans, a lot of radiation. 0.97

02:47:18.000 Well, how the fuck they do that in that tin can with no computer or nothing? 0.98

02:47:22.000 They just went up there and it landed and it worked and I went deep into this for many years. 0.98

02:47:27.000 One of the ways supposedly they did it is the Van Allen belts have openings in the top and the bottom of the earth, right?

02:47:33.000 Yeah, well why don't they just do that again?

02:47:35.000 Why hasn't Jeff Bezos figured it out?

02:47:37.000 I don't think it's that easy, man.

02:47:39.000 I think it's...

02:47:39.000 Whether or not they did it...

02:47:41.000 Look at the advancements in technology between the first moon landing and now.

02:47:46.000 Oh, 100%.

02:47:46.000 I don't understand how the richest men in the world can't replicate something and just, well, we're going to do Mars.

02:47:52.000 Why not the moon? 1.00

02:47:53.000 No, they're planning on doing shit on the moon. 0.99

02:47:55.000 With people. 0.99

02:47:56.000 Okay.

02:47:58.000 Before you even do it with people, they've definitely done it with objects, they've definitely done it with satellites, so they have the technology to get something there.

02:48:06.000 The question is whether or not they have the technology to get the, in today's day, get a biological entity there and back, right?

02:48:12.000 But we did it, right?

02:48:15.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

02:48:17.000 The ideas that we did from 1969 to 1972. I don't know if the moon is real, man.

02:48:23.000 It could be some fucking thing that's just up there. 0.99

02:48:25.000 Cheese, sure, Joe. 0.99

02:48:27.000 I mean, I've looked at the flat Earth, the crater Earth.

02:48:30.000 I've looked at everything.

02:48:32.000 I've looked at all this stuff.

02:48:33.000 You know what?

02:48:34.000 I really don't know.

02:48:35.000 You don't know if the Earth's flat?

02:48:36.000 I don't want to get into it because it's just polarizing.

02:48:39.000 You think the Earth might be flat?

02:48:41.000 I think it's not round for sure.

02:48:43.000 Well, they don't think it's round.

02:48:44.000 It's ellipse.

02:48:44.000 But, you know, think, think, think.

02:48:46.000 When I look at the fucking pictures... 1.00

02:48:47.000 Hold on a second. 1.00

02:48:48.000 It's round.

02:48:48.000 We've got to be clear.

02:48:49.000 It is round.

02:48:50.000 It's just not perfectly round if you had, like, measurement devices.

02:48:54.000 This is where my wife is going. 1.00

02:48:56.000 What is the actual term? 1.00

02:48:56.000 Shut the fuck up, Adam. 1.00

02:48:57.000 You're going off the rails. 1.00

02:48:59.000 Don't do it.

02:48:59.000 There's a term of what the...

02:49:01.000 And that's my work wife. 1.00

02:49:04.000 Elongated ellipsis or something like that.

02:49:06.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:49:07.000 But that's just technical.

02:49:09.000 But listen, it's in a round shape, a shape of a sphere.

02:49:13.000 It's just not a perfect sphere.

02:49:15.000 By very minute numbers, it's off, right?

02:49:19.000 Like overall, because if you look at it, it looks circle.

02:49:22.000 Right?

02:49:23.000 Right?

02:49:25.000 I really don't know.

02:49:26.000 I don't know what my lion eyes, I don't know what I believe anymore.

02:49:31.000 What are you, an eagle song?

02:49:31.000 You can't hide your lion eyes.

02:49:36.000 It's just hard to know.

02:49:38.000 Just looking at the pure facts on the face of it about not returning to the moon, no other country has done it with a human being. 0.99

02:49:46.000 That just seems fucked up. 0.78

02:49:48.000 Now, that's okay, but I then also have the right to explore other versions that have been told, which includes crater Earth. 0.98

02:49:56.000 What's crater Earth?

02:49:58.000 The Earth is actually a much larger planet, and we are living in a crater in it, and that's...

02:50:06.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

02:50:09.000 We're in a crater?

02:50:10.000 I'm not saying that.

02:50:11.000 I'm saying I have the freedom to explore these theories.

02:50:13.000 Is the whole universe the Earth?

02:50:14.000 And then we're the crater in the center of the universe?

02:50:17.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:50:17.000 So the moon is, in essence, if you look at, I'm just telling you the theory, right?

02:50:21.000 This is conspiracy therapy.

02:50:22.000 I don't think we should say theory when it comes to crater Earth.

02:50:25.000 Let's just say the wacky story.

02:50:29.000 As you wish.

02:50:30.000 I feel like theory, it's a little lofty for this one.

02:50:33.000 Okay.

02:50:34.000 A whole bunch of YouTube videos with a cool voiceover taught me.

02:50:40.000 And it was like eight hours long.

02:50:43.000 Eight hours long. 1.00

02:50:44.000 I watched all that shit. 1.00

02:50:45.000 Hi, were you? 1.00

02:50:46.000 Non-stop, brother.

02:50:47.000 But eight hours.

02:50:48.000 And the voiceover's like...

02:50:50.000 How did it happen?

02:50:51.000 Why did this go away?

02:50:53.000 Have you heard of the giant trees?

02:50:54.000 That's my favorite.

02:50:55.000 Oh yes, I've heard of the giant trees.

02:50:56.000 I love the giant trees.

02:50:57.000 People think that like that.

02:50:58.000 I find the giant trees compelling.

02:51:00.000 That's sawed off.

02:51:01.000 Made of silica.

02:51:02.000 But that's sawed off devil's rock.

02:51:05.000 That used to be a giant tree.

02:51:06.000 Yeah, it's just the base of a tree.

02:51:08.000 And it's all of silica, which is sand.

02:51:11.000 There you go.

02:51:12.000 It's all over the place.

02:51:14.000 But that's not crater earth.

02:51:16.000 That's giant tree earth.

02:51:17.000 Right, I get it.

02:51:18.000 But, bro, the problem is that looks like a tree.

02:51:21.000 I know!

02:51:21.000 Come on, man!

02:51:22.000 I know.

02:51:22.000 When you look at it, though, it's perfectly octagonal in shape often.

02:51:26.000 Well, let's not say perfectly if we're going to call the earth not round.

02:51:29.000 Okay?

02:51:30.000 Let's be consistent here.

02:51:31.000 Jesus Christ, you're so inconsistent.

02:51:33.000 All right, give me another one of those.

02:51:34.000 I need something to smoke.

02:51:35.000 Well, we don't have anything right here.

02:51:36.000 Everything's in the other room. 0.99

02:51:37.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:51:38.000 You got some on you, don't you? 1.00

02:51:39.000 I'll own my own.

02:51:39.000 Don't bogart your own.

02:51:40.000 We have plenty for you.

02:51:41.000 I'll give you some as you're leaving.

02:51:44.000 Bogart my own?

02:51:45.000 I would never Bogart my own.

02:51:47.000 Okay.

02:51:47.000 I'll take care of it.

02:51:48.000 Be sensitive.

02:51:49.000 Now you're taking me into outer space.

02:51:51.000 What are we doing? 0.99

02:51:51.000 We're on fucking Tree Earth. 0.99

02:51:53.000 We're black screening here? 1.00

02:51:54.000 No, Tree Earth and Crater Earth.

02:51:56.000 What I like the most about these videos, this is about the energy.

02:52:00.000 So there's this one video. 0.83

02:52:02.000 This is so fucking cool. 0.84

02:52:03.000 And you've seen the pictures. 0.97

02:52:04.000 You've seen the pictures of Manhattan around 1900. And there's these beautiful big buildings, fantastic shit. 0.99

02:52:10.000 And then the streets are just squalor and people with horse-driven crap. 0.99

02:52:15.000 And the video says, how did this get built? 0.93

02:52:18.000 What happened?

02:52:19.000 Why are the streets just mud and all these beautiful buildings?

02:52:23.000 When did that occur?

02:52:25.000 What did it look like then?

02:52:26.000 Where are those pictures?

02:52:27.000 And I'm just telling you how this video is put together.

02:52:30.000 It's pretty slick.

02:52:31.000 And they show all these pictures of completely empty streets.

02:52:34.000 So the theory is that there was a water event, but really a very severe one, but that electricity used to flow through canals everywhere.

02:52:45.000 Wait for it.

02:52:47.000 From the churches.

02:52:48.000 And the church steeple, which now has a bell tower, that's where a ball of mercury used to be. 0.97

02:52:53.000 And listen to me, because Elon's going to fucking patent this and he's going to sell it to us.

02:52:57.000 And then that energy, they pull the energy from the ionosphere, that somehow it interacts with mercury, then they would distribute the electricity through Tesla's principles, through the earth and through water. 0.96

02:53:09.000 That they used to do this?

02:53:11.000 Well, we know that Tesla had this idea of broadcasting electricity through the air, but people that look at today's electronics think that that would be horrendous, because then if he had done that and implemented that, we would never be able to use all these electronic devices and all the things that we have today,

02:53:27.000 because they'd be constantly interfered by this electricity flying through the air.

02:53:32.000 Or would they develop new technology that interacted with that electricity and it would just be different than what we're accustomed to?

02:53:40.000 I believe that most of Tesla's wireless energy was flowing through the Earth side of it and not through the air side.

02:53:47.000 Really?

02:53:47.000 Yeah, I believe so.

02:53:48.000 Some wires and shit? 0.97

02:53:49.000 No, just... 0.98

02:53:50.000 So you think this might be a real thing?

02:53:51.000 Just Earth resonance.

02:53:52.000 Well, there's a lot of...

02:53:53.000 You know I have a ham radio license, so I know a lot about high frequency and radio waves.

02:53:58.000 And there is the ultra-low frequencies, which is like a 700...

02:54:04.000 Foot antenna or some shit like that these ultra low subsonic frequencies a lot of experimentation going on and That actually transmits through the earth So you transmit your signal and it goes through the earth's core to the other side and that's where it's received So that's more my understanding of the technology Tesla was using But you don't think the earth is living in a crater,

02:54:26.000 right?

02:54:26.000 We don't think we really have no evidence to prove it.

02:54:29.000 No, of course But it's one of the weird ones to entertain There's a lot of people out there.

02:54:35.000 Oh, yeah.

02:54:36.000 Yeah.

02:54:37.000 You know, if you want to believe in the heliospheric model, that's fine.

02:54:40.000 What's that one?

02:54:41.000 That's the globe.

02:54:42.000 The globe.

02:54:43.000 The round earth.

02:54:44.000 Are you a globe head?

02:54:46.000 That's what flat earthers call us.

02:54:47.000 A globe head.

02:54:47.000 They call us globe heads.

02:54:48.000 Yeah.

02:54:49.000 People that believe the earth is round.

02:54:51.000 I think there's more important things to think about.

02:54:52.000 Yeah.

02:54:53.000 I think there's some theories that maybe it's a waste of time to go over.

02:54:58.000 Just saying.

02:54:59.000 Maybe that's one of them.

02:55:00.000 But it's interesting to watch what people get obsessed with.

02:55:03.000 The flatter thing, what's fascinating about it is how many people got obsessed with it.

02:55:06.000 And then eventually kind of gave it up.

02:55:07.000 A lot of people gave it up.

02:55:08.000 What I get interested in is a lot of the biblical parallels and references.

02:55:13.000 I have a lot of believers in my life, and I question them on all kinds of stuff. 0.96

02:55:19.000 Certainly what we're seeing now compared to revelations, and there's always been this kind of doomsday, which is maybe why I have never connected with God is because I'm such a fucking optimist. 0.57

02:55:29.000 I'm not quite sure what it is.

02:55:32.000 But I recognize the connection people have.

02:55:34.000 And there's so many parallels with a lot of these quote-unquote conspiracy theories.

02:55:39.000 You've got to wonder, you know, what's the conspiracy?

02:55:43.000 What's the story?

02:55:44.000 Right.

02:55:44.000 Who knows?

02:55:45.000 Who knows?

02:55:46.000 I don't know.

02:55:47.000 You don't know.

02:55:48.000 I just want to live my life, be happy, and make a better one for the kids, man.

02:55:51.000 There's a lot of people that are studying the shape of the earth and they're pretty sure it's not flat.

02:55:56.000 Are you trying to influence me, Joe Rogan?

02:55:58.000 Because you're failing.

02:55:59.000 Those satellites are spinning around the flat earth. 0.98

02:56:00.000 You're going to have to come up with a whole new explanation of how they fucking stick up there. 0.76

02:56:04.000 Well, when you see the clock and you understand how the star system would rotate around the flat Earth. 0.97

02:56:11.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:56:12.000 And then the sun and the moon are counterpolar.

02:56:14.000 Then you would understand it a little better, but I'm not...

02:56:17.000 Yeah, it's a lack of understanding on my part.

02:56:20.000 I don't understand it either, but I do watch it and I do enjoy all these different theories.

02:56:24.000 I really think that's interesting.

02:56:26.000 I have no problem with that.

02:56:27.000 What's the difference between taking drugs and watching Friends reruns?

02:56:33.000 Or taking drugs and listening to someone talk about how the earth is flat?

02:56:36.000 For eight hours.

02:56:37.000 No, not just for...

02:56:38.000 It's much bigger than that.

02:56:38.000 Well, listen, man.

02:56:39.000 I used to love Art Bell's show.

02:56:41.000 When Art Bell would get some guy calling up saying he's a time traveler, I'd be like, really?

02:56:45.000 Wow, listen to this guy.

02:56:46.000 And Art would go, tell me about the future.

02:56:48.000 I think that's feasible.

02:56:49.000 Yeah.

02:56:49.000 Time travelers?

02:56:50.000 Yeah, sure.

02:56:51.000 What do you think would happen if time travel was invented?

02:56:55.000 How do you think it would happen?

02:56:56.000 Like, if all of a sudden, out of nowhere, time travel was invented in our lifetimes, how much do you think the world changes?

02:57:02.000 Back to the Future would be a documentary.

02:57:05.000 I think it's way crazier than that, Adam Curry.

02:57:07.000 I think, let's just presume that it was already possible in the future and we're living in the past.

02:57:12.000 I mean, you can go on forever, but why wouldn't...

02:57:17.000 You aware of a guy named Dr. Ronald Mallet?

02:57:19.000 You ever heard of him?

02:57:20.000 I think he's University of Connecticut.

02:57:22.000 See if you can find him.

02:57:23.000 He's a fascinating guy and he's a professor that is...

02:57:27.000 When you hear him talk, it's almost like you're watching a superhero movie.

02:57:32.000 And a guy has like a superhero origin story.

02:57:34.000 This is what it is.

02:57:35.000 Like his father died and he became obsessed with time travel because he wanted to make a time machine so he could go back and see his dad.

02:57:42.000 Yes.

02:57:43.000 So this guy came up with these theories of time travel that apparently if you have enough power, you have to have some massive...

02:57:54.000 I think the first guy to come up with...

02:57:56.000 No, no, no.

02:57:57.000 Kurt Goodell, I think, was the first guy to come up with the idea of...

02:58:03.000 Of a functional mechanism that could actually change time, that you could actually go back in time or go forward in time.

02:58:11.000 But the amount of energy that you would need is just impossible to imagine.

02:58:16.000 And then what this guy seems to have concluded is that even if you go back in time, this professor, even if you, is it Ronald Mallet, is that his name?

02:58:26.000 Even if you go back in time, you can't go back if there's no road.

02:58:31.000 So from the moment a time machine is invented, from that moment, the moment it's switched on, that moment till forever, time ceases to become linear.

02:58:40.000 Stops, right.

02:58:41.000 Ceases to become linear.

02:58:42.000 Because travel is available to anyone, from the future to now, from now to then, any stop in between, you can't stop time.

02:58:50.000 If there's no regulations on it, if it becomes prevalent like cell phones, the world becomes a completely different experience for everyone.

02:58:59.000 Life, death, birth, childhood, mistakes, erase them, go back, live in that timeline.

02:59:05.000 They intersect with people's timelines where they're coming in from the past and the future.

02:59:09.000 No, it fucks the world up.

02:59:09.000 It fucks everything up.

02:59:11.000 This is what I think...

02:59:14.000 is one of the scarier ideas about technology.

02:59:16.000 I mean, you want to talk about a thing that would completely change the way human beings interface with the universe itself?

02:59:24.000 It's time travel.

02:59:25.000 Because everything that people can figure out from now until as long as there are people will then be ported back To where we are now and the understanding of it will be brought back to it and then who knows if you'll ever even be able to achieve innovation because you're going to be constantly dealing with people traveling to and from different time zones to and from different time periods like all simultaneously I think it's impossible for us to imagine how wild a time machine could be if

02:59:55.000 it did get invented.

02:59:56.000 Because it's not like, oh, I'm going to go back and steal all the gold. 1.00

03:00:00.000 No, it's like everybody's going to do that, stupid. 1.00

03:00:02.000 Everybody's going to do that at every second of every day, ever. 0.99

03:00:05.000 Well, this, of course, leads us right to the ultimate answer, which is we're living in a simulation.

03:00:12.000 A simulation that is controlled.

03:00:14.000 We may control pieces of it.

03:00:16.000 I know that when I look at you, I see Joe Rogan, and I could recognize you.

03:00:20.000 I know that when you look in the mirror, you see Joe Rogan, it's a different guy.

03:00:24.000 It just looks different.

03:00:25.000 I mean, this doesn't...

03:00:26.000 Because I see the opposite of me?

03:00:28.000 It depends on...

03:00:30.000 Because Samir? 0.73

03:00:32.000 No, it's just that's how we perceive the world individually.

03:00:36.000 Remember the white, silver dress, blue dress?

03:00:40.000 Oh, yeah.

03:00:40.000 People perceive the world differently, and you're nudged from all directions to, you know, it's like something you heard or didn't hear.

03:00:46.000 What is he saying?

03:00:47.000 Oh, well, if you put it in my head, that's what they're saying, then I'll hear that.

03:00:50.000 I mean, all this kind of stuff.

03:00:53.000 We perceive reality different all the time.

03:00:56.000 All the time.

03:00:57.000 That's a fact.

03:00:57.000 And that's also one of the weirder things about people with mental illness, right?

03:01:00.000 Like, when a schizophrenic's having conversations, like, who's he having conversations with? 0.62

03:01:05.000 Or are they in a whole different plane of consciousness, which is perhaps a lot cooler, and we're just seeing the external interpretation that we make.

03:01:13.000 Or are they trapped in two dimensions or in the middle?

03:01:16.000 People yelling at them from both sides.

03:01:17.000 There's more than two, probably.

03:01:18.000 I don't know.

03:01:19.000 Maybe.

03:01:19.000 There's more than two dimensions, I'm pretty sure of that.

03:01:22.000 So, in wrapping this up, because we've been three hours, do you think that we...

03:01:27.000 Really? 0.99

03:01:27.000 Holy shit. 0.99

03:01:27.000 Crazy man. 0.99

03:01:28.000 I love talking with you, Joe Rogan. 0.95

03:01:30.000 I love talking with you, too.

03:01:31.000 You are great.

03:01:31.000 You are good for my ego.

03:01:33.000 You are good for my soul, good for my heart, and good for America and the world, Joe Rogan.

03:01:37.000 Well, you deserve all your props.

03:01:39.000 As I've said many times, you are the original podcaster.

03:01:42.000 It's very important that people know that.

03:01:43.000 It's like, without you, this whole thing wouldn't have happened.

03:01:46.000 It might have come about a different way.

03:01:48.000 But it didn't.

03:01:49.000 It came out of you, you know?

03:01:50.000 Yeah.

03:01:51.000 And Dave Weiner.

03:01:53.000 But you were the original guy that made it popular.

03:01:56.000 And what it is now is very odd.

03:02:00.000 It's a very odd form of communication.

03:02:03.000 It's weird that this thing exists and that it's so popular.

03:02:05.000 Well, that's what's so cool about it.

03:02:07.000 It's like RSS, which is the basic protocol of podcasting, and it came from blogs.

03:02:12.000 That's what Dave Weiner invented.

03:02:20.000 We're good to go.

03:02:44.000 Freedom of speech.

03:02:46.000 Do you think we'll get to a point in our lifetime where the power of these decentralized entities will eclipse these corporate-controlled medias?

03:02:54.000 Because if you think about the amount of influence that a decentralized entity could have, like people just living life and that- You're already decentralized from the mainstream media, you yourself.

03:03:06.000 Yes, you're under a different corporate No, you're not, because I know they don't own you.

03:03:14.000 They own licensing to do something exclusive for a while, but you own you as far as I'm concerned.

03:03:19.000 Yes.

03:03:20.000 Right.

03:03:21.000 But whatever deal you did, however it works, you are decentralized from the mainstream...

03:03:30.000 Broadcast systems, technically, and certainly from the mainstream narrative.

03:03:34.000 So you are to be preserved.

03:03:37.000 You are to be protected because this is showing the way that anybody can do this.

03:03:44.000 And no, you may not have the audience size of Joe Rogan, but you get a thousand people.

03:03:48.000 That matters.

03:03:49.000 A thousand people who really care, who really listen, who, by the way, might support you with five bucks a month.

03:03:55.000 You're in business.

03:03:56.000 Look, we can't all do an entertainment show, but you're not.

03:03:59.000 You're an educational show.

03:04:02.000 Yeah, that's not an accident.

03:04:03.000 Sometimes it's entertainment.

03:04:05.000 It's always entertaining.

03:04:06.000 No, it's always entertaining because you're an entertainer.

03:04:10.000 But it's education.

03:04:11.000 It's something that has never existed like this, ever.

03:04:15.000 That's what's weird, right?

03:04:16.000 No, it's beautiful. 1.00

03:04:17.000 It's a thing of fucking beauty. 0.99

03:04:18.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.99

03:04:20.000 So, yes, decentralization, it's unstoppable.

03:04:24.000 They will try and stop it.

03:04:25.000 They will try to do legislation.

03:04:27.000 They'll want to make schooling harder.

03:04:29.000 We've already seen the control they exert over the medical community.

03:04:32.000 Do you think that the attempt to exert control and the exposing of it is going to be the ultimate downfall of these institutions?

03:04:40.000 We're gonna realize that it's not a good idea to have them have the kind of power that they have.

03:04:45.000 It's not a good idea for them to be completely influenced by these corporate entities that structure the narrative that force us to adopt.

03:04:52.000 It's not good.

03:04:53.000 As far as I'm concerned, it's collapsing already.

03:04:55.000 It's in slow motion collapse.

03:04:58.000 Everything is collapsing.

03:05:00.000 Healthcare is collapsing.

03:05:01.000 Education is collapsing.

03:05:02.000 My God, the biggest deficit we have on our balance sheet is $1.7 trillion of college loans. 0.98

03:05:11.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 1.00

03:05:12.000 This shit is done. 1.00

03:05:13.000 It's done. 1.00

03:05:14.000 And people are coming out disillusioned.

03:05:16.000 Okay, I got $100,000 in debt.

03:05:18.000 I got this piece of paper.

03:05:19.000 Nothing.

03:05:20.000 And what do we see with the jobs market?

03:05:23.000 Oh, only 3.9% unemployment.

03:05:27.000 But the labor participation rate, the people who are actually in the market for a job, fell off a cliff.

03:05:32.000 Didn't something like 4.5 million people quit their job recently?

03:05:36.000 Sure.

03:05:37.000 Yeah.

03:05:37.000 That's wild.

03:05:38.000 There's too much money in the system.

03:05:40.000 People have stimulus money.

03:05:41.000 They got cash.

03:05:42.000 Maybe there's some gigs on the side.

03:05:44.000 They're figuring life out.

03:05:45.000 They're going to find something else to do.

03:05:47.000 That's good.

03:05:49.000 That's good in my book, but it's not what the economy is in real trouble.

03:05:53.000 In Austin, there are now three restaurants that I used to go to for over 10 years closing for good.

03:05:59.000 South Congress Cafe closing for good.

03:06:01.000 Of course, we'll get new ones in there.

03:06:03.000 A lot of them can't get employees.

03:06:04.000 Can't get employees destroyed just in general from the lockdowns and the restrictions. 0.99

03:06:10.000 We have to rebuild a new middle class and it's going to be diaper washing services because that shit's going to stop too. 1.00

03:06:17.000 You're not going to get diapers eventually. 0.99

03:06:18.000 I guarantee you. 0.99

03:06:21.000 Crazy shit ahead. 0.99

03:06:22.000 But that's what's good because that will wake people up. 0.99

03:06:25.000 And by the way, we can feed ourselves.

03:06:27.000 We can figure out how to do it.

03:06:29.000 We can collaborate with people.

03:06:31.000 Except these people that are living in these big cities and they're the ones that are deepest in the trance.

03:06:35.000 No, they're dead.

03:06:35.000 They're dead.

03:06:36.000 They're all dead. 0.95

03:06:37.000 They're the deepest in the trance.

03:06:38.000 Them and their pets.

03:06:39.000 Isn't it fascinating that those are the people that are the deepest in the societal trance?

03:06:44.000 Really?

03:06:45.000 The ones that are in these urban centers.

03:06:46.000 Are we surprised?

03:06:47.000 No.

03:06:47.000 No, we're not surprised, but it is fascinating that they're the most terrified, the most disconnected from nature.

03:06:52.000 They are building their own prison.

03:06:56.000 Openly and with joy.

03:06:58.000 Open air presence. 1.00

03:07:00.000 Adam Curry, you're the shit. 1.00

03:07:01.000 Appreciate you very much. 1.00

03:07:02.000 Tell everybody how they can watch and listen to you.

03:07:05.000 You don't have video form of no agenda, do you?

03:07:08.000 No.

03:07:08.000 You don't want that?

03:07:09.000 Fuck no. 1.00

03:07:10.000 Fuck no? 1.00

03:07:10.000 No. 1.00

03:07:11.000 Okay.

03:07:11.000 I like theater of the mind.

03:07:13.000 I like people being able to...

03:07:14.000 I like to manipulate my sound.

03:07:15.000 I like that too.

03:07:16.000 And all that stuff. 0.88

03:07:17.000 Then they can't pick on you if you start getting shitty looking.

03:07:20.000 Noagendashow.net.

03:07:21.000 And anybody, please check out a new podcast app, newpodcastapps.com.

03:07:26.000 It's not a for-profit thing.

03:07:28.000 It's to protect, enhance, and extend podcasting.

03:07:32.000 And your Twitter handle is?

03:07:33.000 At Adam Curry.

03:07:34.000 Alright.

03:07:35.000 But I'm on the Mastodon.

03:07:37.000 Adam at NoAgendaSocial.com.

03:07:39.000 What is Mastodon again?

03:07:40.000 That's the decentralized Twitter, baby. 0.82

03:07:44.000 That's where all the kids are going.

03:07:45.000 We'll have to join that, too?

03:07:46.000 Get off the getter.

03:07:47.000 I gotta get off the getter?

03:07:48.000 Nah, you can stay on it. 1.00

03:07:49.000 Just another thing that can get fucked. 0.95

03:07:50.000 They can take it off the app store. 0.98

03:07:52.000 I'll get that, too.

03:07:53.000 Alright.

03:07:54.000 Thank you, brother.

03:07:54.000 We need a Joe Rogan Mastodon.

03:07:56.000 No, no, no.

03:07:57.000 Maybe.

03:07:57.000 Bye.

03:07:57.000 Thanks, brother.

03:07:58.000 Thank you, sir.

03:07:59.000 Appreciate you, brother.

03:08:00.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 08, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1760 - Adam Curry

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