Duncan Trussell and Joe Rogan talk about sex and the weirdest things they've ever done to each other's buttholes. Also, Joe's phone accidentally died and he can't figure out how to get it back up and running. Joe also talks about how he's going to make a new sex toy that looks like a butthole, but is actually made of a girl's butt hole. And he tells the story of the first time he ever had sex in a box. Also, he talks about the smell of sex you get when you open a box and how it smells like an alien spaceship. It's a gross story, but it's a good gross story. Joe and Duncan also talk about the worst sex they ve ever had, and why they don't want to have sex in the shower anymore. This episode is brought to you by The Fleshlight. If you go to JoeRogan.net, click on the link for the code ROGAN and enter in the code "ROGAN" and you will get 15% off the most popular sex toy for men, the Fleshlight! You will also get 20% off your first purchase when you enter the code name "Rogan" at checkout. You can't ask for more than $15 and you won't have to pay more than 25% off of your purchase. The Fleshlights is the best sex toy on the market. They make the sex toys in the world. and they make them in the best way you can make you feel the most comfortable and comfortable and safe. in the most intimate and comfortable. you can t ask for better than you'll feel like you're getting the most amazing experience you'll ever feel like it's ever had in your first experience with them, and they'll be the most authentic, authentic, and it's the best you'll be able to feel like that's anywhere else on the best place you'll get it anywhere else in the whole world, anywhere else they'll get the most realistic chance to experience it, anywhere you go, they're gonna get the best of it's gonna be the best, they'll make it, it's not even better than that, you'll have it, you're gonna feel it, they've got it, too, it'll be there, and you'll know it, right they're going to be the only place you can get it, no matter how authentic and authentic and they're not going to care about it.
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00:04:21.000You would have to worry about those chemicals eventually burning the skin off your dick.
00:04:25.000Well, yeah, and some unknown disease, leprosy, a flesh-rotting disease on your penis.
00:04:31.000Imagine if that's where it gets born, in the bottom of a fleshlight from some sick fuck that never bothered to clean it, and he tried to fuck it twice.
00:13:00.000But like we were saying, like about the invention of the fleshlight, if you want real change to happen, change comes from fucking suffering.
00:13:07.000Change comes from being in a place that you don't want to be in.
00:13:09.000I mean, you could do it other ways, but generally it comes from getting backed into a corner.
00:14:25.000And of course, you're going to be like, have the most friends of Fitbit world because you're going to be working out so extreme.
00:14:31.000And everyone, that would be like, you're not like, instead of Dane Cook having five million friends on Twitter, that you would have the most extreme, you have the most like red graph, like you worked out the hardest.
00:14:42.000Or a lot of dudes beating off to my account.
00:15:37.000And you should be able to figure out within 30 pills.
00:15:39.000I mean, you know, a lot of people say, how much can you tell the difference between when you're eating multivitamins and when you're not eating multivitamins?
00:16:08.000They're not in tune with their body so much.
00:16:11.000If you're not really athletic, if you don't push your body to extremes and you don't eat healthy and clean, I think a lot of people, there's a missing amount of communication.
00:16:21.000There's not an intimacy with your body.
00:16:24.000I think when you're feeling bad, you kind of get good at numbing it out or ignoring it.
00:16:28.000They've shut down their ability to feel bad.
00:16:32.000To really honestly appraise their health.
00:16:35.000If you're out of shape and you're fucking smoking all the time and you're drinking all the time, I speak from experience.
00:16:41.000If you get into a jag of living like that, after a certain amount of time, you just start tuning out the weird pains in your body.
00:16:49.000You just start ignoring it because it's just the truth.
00:16:53.000And the truth is you can't constantly fucking eat like shit and smoke and drink.
00:16:58.000And that end up with you at the other end of that feeling great.
00:17:02.000It's so important to take a variety of different things that are good for your health, in my opinion.
00:17:09.000You should really eat a lot of healthy vegetables.
00:17:12.000That's one of the most important things.
00:17:14.000One of the strongest things I've ever done is increase the amount of green, beefy vegetables in my diet and drink kale shakes and shit like that.
00:18:06.000I cut way back on my coffee consumption, but I have found that coffee and the show go well together. but I have found that coffee and the show go I think they're important.
00:18:25.000And I'll just keep spitting information out.
00:18:30.000What are you doing with that echo, man?
00:19:37.000He hits moments on stage where it's just ridiculous shit that he says.
00:19:41.000It just makes you repeat what he said over and over and over again.
00:19:45.000He's one of those dudes, when Joey really rocks it on stage, he'll say something so fucking completely preposterous and so out of control that you'll just be repeating it.
00:22:50.000The Georgia Godstones, a large granite monument in Elbert County, Georgia.
00:22:58.000Yeah, a message that contains ten guides is inscribed on the structure in eight modern languages, and a shorter message is inscribed at the top of the structure in four ancient language scripts.
00:23:12.000Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs.
00:25:50.000I shut it off halfway and I got bored.
00:25:53.000I got into it because I was just thinking about how crazy it was that rhinos were in France at one point and kind of like, who the fuck were these people?
00:26:04.000If you carve something in stone and you put it deep enough in the stone and on a big enough stone, it's guaranteed that if people are still around in hundreds of thousands of years, they're going to think that that really meant something.
00:26:18.000They're going to think it was very important just because you carved it in stone.
00:28:32.000He was talking about the different types of civilization.
00:28:36.000Type 0 civilization, Type 1 civilization, Type 2 civilization.
00:28:40.000I think someone just put it on my Facebook wall.
00:28:42.000But basically the concept behind it is that right now we're moving from a Type 0 civilization to a Type 1 civilization, which is we're going into a place where...
00:28:51.000We're going to recognize that we're all, you know, we're planetary.
00:28:56.000We're a planetary civilization instead of broken up in all these weird divergent pieces where we all speak different languages and we have these different beliefs.
00:29:04.000We're moving into something where we're all connected via the internet.
00:29:07.000But he said this is the most dangerous time possible because we're moving from Type 0 to Type 1, and the Type 0 people, the ones with the crazy ideas, they have nuclear weapons.
00:29:20.000And so we're in a place where if we don't work this shit out, we can destroy ourselves.
00:29:25.000But if we can get past these crazy ideas that differentiate us, that split us up, the shit where people say, like, you know how those Marines just pissed on the Taliban that they'd shot?
00:29:56.000We're still at a place right now where it's worse to piss on a dead body than to make a dead body.
00:30:01.000Now when we get to a place where making a dead body has the same cultural resonance as pissing on one, where it makes national news because one person had the fucking insane idea of like shooting someone instead of working it out through language or talking it out, that's when we're going to be entering a new age, a new, if we can make it there, a new evolutionary period where we recognize that a solution to a problem is never It's never blasting people to smithereens.
00:30:27.000And if it is, it's so fucking rare that it's the most rare thing.
00:30:31.000It's only in the most rare situations.
00:30:36.000I think that we're on the verge of getting to this place and I think the internet's helping.
00:30:40.000I think every time you look at what happened with SOPA and PIPA and you see the power of this organizing force and logic seems to rule in the internet.
00:31:17.000These fucking assholes, once we start getting them out of the picture, and then move on to the fucking clerics and the priests who are teaching people that they're the only way to communicate with the universe and connect with God.
00:31:30.000Once we get rid of those motherfuckers, this is a pretty awesome planet, man.
00:31:33.000The resources thing, we can work it out.
00:31:40.000You have an awesome, optimistic view of the world.
00:31:42.000If we could just all communicate in the same native language so we could tell each other this, that's a big part of the problem.
00:31:48.000A big part of the problem is if there was some sort of a civil unrest or some sort of a problem with another part of the country that was European, we would get all the information back immediately.
00:31:57.000What's going on, exactly what's going down.
00:31:59.000Can you imagine if the United States was in Ireland for some reason?
00:32:59.000We have infinity out here, and all we have to access to describe this infinity and our perception of it and the way it feels to be a part of it is a language that we didn't come up with ourselves, a language that has been passed down and is a trade language.
00:33:14.000So the words that we have, there might not be words that exist right now to describe certain facets of reality, and sometimes that will make them invisible.
00:33:22.000But if you could undercut language and just have a I mean, imagine being the president of Syria and you, the guy who's killing protesters, jailing people and torturing them.
00:33:38.000You take that guy and just for one second he gets a feeling of what it's like to be out in the street or to be in a country where you've had a president forever and you're being completely repressed.
00:33:50.000It would be hard for him to continue on.
00:33:51.000It would be hard for him to live in delusion and to think that, oh, it's easy to be a tyrant, I deserve this, or these people are less than me.
00:33:58.000Slavery never would have been able to happen.
00:34:00.000Slavery was based on this ridiculous idea that somehow black people deserve to be enslaved.
00:34:05.000You know, it's the same thing with eating meat.
00:34:07.000We believe that In general, people, one way, not everyone, some meat eaters are like, yeah, I'll eat meat and I know that these animals have feelings and generally die a brutal life, but I think I deserve to eat meat and I think that's natural.
00:34:21.000That's the best rationale for eating meat.
00:35:12.000I don't think we can know that, but I think that they're like...
00:35:15.000Like when I was in India, the cows kind of wander the streets and they're not like...
00:35:21.000You know, they're not abused in the same way that they are here.
00:35:24.000I'm sure there are some, but they're like really sweet dogs.
00:35:27.000They'll come up to you and rub their muzzle against you and you can scratch behind their ears and they're just very sweet.
00:35:32.000I mean, I'm not saying cows are fucking dolphins.
00:35:34.000Could you imagine if cows eventually evolve and just get a little bit smarter and learn how to speak English and then start coming into people's houses and see all the leather shit?
00:36:50.000Yeah, and isn't it odd, though, that even if I died, maybe I'm wrong about this, but if I put my will, I want my flesh cured and made into wallets for my friends.
00:37:26.000Because there's one dude and he's going to get through this miserable life in one piece, one way or another, until one day he's at the fucking flea market and he finds a human flesh wallet and that's it!
00:37:37.000He's got to make human flesh everything.
00:37:56.000It's figuring out how to develop people or redevelop them after they've been fucked up as children.
00:38:02.000There's going to be something they figure out, some sort of a reset thing.
00:38:06.000Well, again, if you can get an emotional read on a person, like how they're experiencing reality, then you can communicate with them much better.
00:38:13.000Some people are fucked because they can't communicate.
00:38:19.000If we were smart as a species, that's one of the big things that we would do.
00:38:24.000We would set up places where people who had fucked their lives up Can go and not be a criminal and get some food and have some and help them and figure things out.
00:38:36.000Like, listen, we can keep you from going to jail for the rest of your life.
00:42:38.000Growing use of the term like, how people use the word like instead of just saying what it is.
00:42:43.000So you know it's like you're walking outside and you like come up to this thing and you're like, and he says what that is is this subconscious problem where people are not directly experiencing reality so everything's like something else.
00:42:56.000Things aren't being, things are being like something else.
00:43:15.000Not into either one of those instruments.
00:43:17.000Well, you know, it's weird, you know, one of the things that I always thought was fascinating about ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs is that they had a completely different way of writing things.
00:43:29.000So they must have had a completely different way of talking, a completely different way of, like, Of phrasing things.
00:43:38.000When you look at how you could be a human being, obviously an intelligent human being, advanced, sophisticated culture, capable of producing amazing works of art, but that language is totally alien to us.
00:43:54.000We look at it and we're like, what is this crazy chicken scratch and pictures of birds and shit?
00:43:59.000These fucking people, this is what they used to describe the world, but somehow or another, to them, it worked.
00:44:06.000They thought of things in a different way.
00:44:10.000Their written language consisted of symbols.
00:44:21.000Language is one of the most fascinating things to think about when you're tripping.
00:44:26.000It's fun to contemplate where each word is coming from, like the transformation of the thought into the word and how instantaneous that happens.
00:44:36.000So when you start contemplating, where is this language coming from?
00:44:43.000And for the longest time, people have always been aware that one of the big things that keeps people from really directly communicating with everybody is the language barrier.
00:45:30.000If I went over to God's house, like there's a lot of gods living in the same neighborhood and they all have these little aquarium earths that they're fucking with.
00:45:37.000If I went over to a fucking God, the God's house that did that, I'd be like, you're a dick, man.
00:45:43.000Why don't you just let them speak the same language and have fun?
00:45:45.000Why do you consistently fuck with these people?
00:45:53.000Like, if you believe the concept of God, And really think about the fundamentalist Christian concept of God.
00:46:01.000If someone was doing that to animals, what God is apparently doing to us, according to the fundamentalist Christians, he would go to jail for a long time.
00:46:38.000And although to you and your mind, you believe you have it all figured out, and that you're smarter than the Lord, and I say that's not possible, Duncan.
00:47:33.000A theory of how religion happens and the progression of information as it goes from being someone who's really happy...
00:47:43.000To it being a priest class that's controlling people.
00:47:45.000And so his idea is certain people throughout time have had peak experiences where they break through the particular ego barrier created by the zeitgeist of their time.
00:47:56.000They have a direct communication with some kind of like super ideas, super intelligence, whatever you want to call it.
00:48:04.000Happy in a way not just like someone who's having a good day, but in a way where if you ran into them You would recognize that they'd figured something out.
00:48:12.000So that person gets a group of people around him who are kind of magnetized by the energy and by what they're saying and they're talking about a real way that you can live and actually be happy in the world.
00:48:24.000And those people from being around someone who's like, you know, like in sports, They used to say you could only run a mile in this amount of time.
00:48:34.000And everyone thought that and everyone was doing that.
00:48:36.000And then right when someone broke it, all of a sudden everyone started breaking.
00:49:12.000It keeps getting watered and more watered.
00:49:15.000It keeps getting watered and watered and watered.
00:49:16.000And then the next thing you know, you have some fucking old horny man with his pants down just nailing a fucking toddler in a confession booth.
00:49:29.000Starts off with a super happy guy, ends up with a fucking...
00:49:33.000A pedophile dressed like a god clown with his cock in a kid's ass.
00:49:38.000That's how mutated things get, which is why it's very funny that people feel so desperate to cling on to this old thing instead of thinking, wait, there might be a new thing that we can come up with based on all the information we have right now.
00:49:53.000At the end of the day, It's all shit that was written down by people.
00:51:26.000Heaven is not nearly as shocking as the universe itself.
00:51:29.000Well, I think that what we're talking about here is that the ability to describe reality and to understand reality keeps increasing as we evolve as a species.
00:51:41.000There's really smart people, you know, in every single time.
00:51:45.000There have been very smart people at every single time.
00:51:47.000Really smart people in different ways.
00:51:49.000But their ability to describe reality was limited to the language available to them and the technology that was around them at the time.
00:51:57.000I mean, if you look at, like, shit, man.
00:51:59.000I hope you remember this because there's a book in the Old Testament that is, in my mind, is clearly a UFO encounter.
00:52:39.000It could have been a hallucination and people just believed it.
00:52:44.000But I think that outside of religious hallucinations or visions and people trying to describe it, everyone's limited to the tools that they have around them to observe reality and they can only report on reality based on the tools that they have.
00:53:00.000And the experiences that they have to draw upon, which is one of the reasons why the whole UFO thing seems so preposterous to people.
00:53:06.000We don't have that experience to draw upon.
00:53:08.000An experience of an alien, intelligent life form.
00:53:12.000It's like looking back at us while we're looking at it.
00:53:22.000If aliens came and they were super intelligent with those big fucking gray heads and those giant black eyes, they could totally read your mind.
00:53:46.000We can't exist in a world where we're under the thumb of some incredibly intelligent, super sophisticated, alien life form that thinks in a completely different way than us and can control matter.
00:54:00.000Well, you know, man, I have this optimistic idea of it.
00:54:03.000Control matter, like I'm writing for the X-Men.
00:54:06.000I don't think it's going to come from the sky and the silver ships.
00:54:09.000I think the way it goes down is maybe...
00:54:14.000All of a sudden, we as a species get to a point where we kind of realize we remember actually what's going on.
00:54:21.000I think right now we have a little bit of amnesia.
00:54:23.000We have lost a sense of what truly is happening.
00:54:28.000I think when you take a really potent psychedelic, sometimes you'll see this universe that already is around you, that's already happening around you at all times.
00:54:37.000You get a sense all of a sudden that you've been there before.
00:55:44.000People are not looking for some sort of a spiritual release and some sort of a A broader perspective on the universe, an objective view of life.
00:55:58.000The real height of progress is not a complete overhauling and understanding of the educational system, of the way to develop human minds, the way to stop people from harming each other, instead of devoting all of our resources to evolving socially, if it even is possible ever, instead of doing that.
00:56:18.000One thing you can do is, when you think about the passage of time as we move into the future, if you get out of your head this idea it's like running down a race track or something, like you're running down a track, and think of it more in the sense of a revealing is happening.
00:56:35.000More things begin to emerge into this reality that weren't there before.
00:56:39.000Like we go from having stone tools to all of a sudden having, you know, iron tools.
00:56:44.000And then we go from that to all of a sudden, you know, where we are now, where we're surrounded by fucking silver glowing Macintosh computers and like microphones that are somehow recording our voice.
00:56:56.000And these things keep getting revealed more and more and more.
00:56:59.000And any of these items, should you take them back 100 years, people would think it was a UFO.
00:57:04.000They'd see it and think that fell out of a spaceship.
00:57:07.000So all of a sudden you realize, and maybe McKenna said this, and I think he may have said something like this, but the idea is the spaceship, the alien, the extraterrestrial intelligence, it's growing around us like crystals.
00:57:19.000When you're a kid and you're growing crystals, but it's growing in the form of technology that eventually is going to become self-aware.
00:57:26.000Which is why I heard this awesome thing, which is the first alien contact that we have is going to be a computer that wakes up.
00:57:35.000That's going to be our first communication with another consciousness.
00:57:38.000Not something from the great void of space, but something that grew through time.
00:57:43.000I say that's totally possible, but I don't say not something from space.
00:57:48.000Because it could be something from space.
00:57:53.000It could be that the first UFO or the first real intelligence that we encounter that's greater than our own is something that we create ourselves.
00:58:04.000That was the idea that once a computer becomes sentient, the real issue is going to be that they're going to be able to go, this is a stupid fucking design.
00:58:13.000Instantly, they know exactly how to put it together.
00:58:16.000And, you know, The idea of programming emotions and programming our mammalian system of dealing with babies and puppies and little baby chickies and shit.
00:58:27.000They won't have any of that guilt or weird feeling about biological life.
00:58:30.000And they might just say, look at these fucking assholes shitting all over this planet.
00:58:34.000We can't even use half of the resources on the planet because these fuckheads have blown up nuclear bombs and left nuclear waste in holes.
00:58:51.000At the top of the heap of technological innovation and science, the best way to get rid of nuclear waste besides shooting it at other planets.
00:59:00.000Could you imagine what assholes we would be considering in the universe if we just shot our nuclear waste up into space like a rocket?
00:59:08.000We send it out with the Voyager and it crash lands on someone's fucking moon someday.
00:59:36.000Well, the problem with that is, yeah, I'm sure you could, but it takes so much energy to get it out of the orbit of the planet that it ends up becoming less efficient to use nuclear energy.
00:59:49.000You know, they blew up a bomb in the atmosphere.
01:01:05.000And the people that decided to, like, test them and blow shit up.
01:01:08.000You've seen the video of the one nuclear bomb that they blew up in the ocean where there's all these battleships around it and the fucking...
01:01:15.000Fucking water is going like, I don't know, like half a mile into the sky.
01:04:09.000The problem with that one is it might not burn itself out, but biological weapons have a distinct advantage over nuclear weapons because nuclear weapons destroy infrastructure.
01:04:20.000Biological weapons just kill, you know, life.
01:04:23.000So if you have a nice, fast-moving fucking disease that you've made that you can drop on a city, then, you know, fly in there three months down the road, clean up the bodies, you've got a city, you know?
01:05:10.000Let's say somehow it spreads through, and all of a sudden, like, the consciousness of, like, all these people who started getting into power, they're like, you know, people who are, like, coming...
01:05:19.000Like, people who are coming into power all of a sudden have more open-minded internet ideology of how the world works.
01:05:26.000The whole of our government suddenly turns into like the smartest fucking people on, forgive me for saying this, the smartest people on Reddit are now running the United States government.
01:06:02.000If that happened in this country, let's say it happened in Europe, and let's say it happened in parts of Asia.
01:06:10.000Still, these pockets, all you need is like two or three fucking pockets of people who are worshipping some mythological entity that they think hates gay people and wants women to wear fucking weird shit or thinks it's okay to lash people.
01:06:26.000I don't remember which country it was.
01:06:28.000I think some country just executed someone.
01:06:30.000I think it might have been Iran, but that could be propaganda.
01:06:46.000It's like the Earth right now has the potential to turn into an awesome party, but you know that thing that happens when two dicks roll into a party, like two weirdos that nobody invited, or all of a sudden start fucking drinking too much and trying to pick fights?
01:07:00.000That's what we have on a planetary scale right now.
01:07:03.000But the people, it used to be it was mostly psychos at the party.
01:07:07.000Now it's getting to be where there's more and more cool people at the party, and we've got to figure out how to get the dicks out of the house.
01:09:09.000With Brian, it's sort of like if you got jet fuel and you shoved it into someone's Prius, they'd be like, what the fuck is this in here for?
01:09:26.000But in this super society we're talking about, they would have a 911 for bad trips.
01:09:33.000Like 7-1-1, if you're having a bad trip, call it and be like, I'm fucking freaking out, I can't feel my feet.
01:09:40.000And then they could send over some fucking cool...
01:09:44.000Well, the real problem is we're great when we can communicate directly with each other, but when we band together in big groups and then we can't communicate, we get too far away from each other, then we just start getting dicky with the people that are furthest away.
01:10:17.000I think the invention of technology, though, I think is like the whole reason why we're here.
01:10:22.000I think what we're all doing as stand-up comedians and as nurses and doctors, we are all supporting the system that keeps alive the people that make the awesome shit.
01:10:34.000We're just going to find out that we are technology.
01:10:37.000When you die, you're like, oh, I get it.
01:10:39.000We're the caterpillar that becomes the butterfly.
01:10:41.000We are working towards the invention of this ultimate technology.
01:11:10.000But at the end of the day, I have a feeling that the whole thing might be in place just so we keep buying cooler shit.
01:11:15.000And this weird, complex social order that we have is all just fucking the ripples and waves of reality, but the whole...
01:11:23.000Thing is pushing towards more improved technology.
01:11:27.000Oh yeah, it pushes towards innovation.
01:11:28.000Look at what's happening right now with SOPA and PIPA. What you're seeing is right now technology has surpassed government and it's surpassed the control mechanisms that are in place in the entertainment industry to monetize their product.
01:11:52.000It should be you log in, you have a fucking email address, you know, it's Duncan Trussell at theunitedstatesofamerica.com, and you fucking log in, and you get to vote, period.
01:15:17.000Head impact, they're finding out, is, you know, you gotta limit the amount of times you get hit.
01:15:22.000That's why for a fighter, it's really important to know when to hang it up.
01:15:25.000There's a certain amount of shots, and after that, you should really, you should, you know, I know you still like to do it, but you've got to think about your future.
01:15:35.000Is it always in the decision of the fighter, or can the UFC... Ultimately, it has to be the decision of the fighter, unless someone owns him, unless he's a slave.
01:15:43.000But as an organization, if you kind of know a guy...
01:15:46.000Well, the organization, if the UFC decided that someone should be fighting for them, that doesn't keep them from fighting.
01:18:09.000When Chuck Liddell was on top, when he was at his best, man.
01:18:12.000One of the most exciting guys of all time.
01:18:15.000So for that guy, you know, it's probably real hard to just accept getting up in the morning and listening to the quiet of your yard as you walk towards your Fucking newspaper that's sitting on your front porch, and you're looking out there, and people are mowing their lawn.
01:20:03.000A young kid and not knowing what the fuck is going on with the world and trying to figure things out and trying to read as much as you can to try to piece it together yourself.
01:21:16.000I might be upset because a cheerleader that came over to my house, I couldn't figure out how to kiss her.
01:21:22.000Maybe that's the biggest problem I'm having at the time.
01:21:25.000But at that time, when I did it for the first time and had that initial experience, and you go back to your parents who've never taken it, and if you mentioned to them that you'd even taken it, they might want to put you in a drug rehab or they think you're insane or they think you're getting down the wrong track.
01:21:41.000You're forced into this place of like, fuck, man.
01:22:53.000But the book, you know, that was the first time I'd ever read the idea that you're an observer observing yourself, that you're an observer observing That you aren't necessarily the you that can be observed.
01:23:11.000You're the observer state, the mindfulness, the watcher.
01:23:14.000That's the first time I'd come upon the idea of what's called the Atman, the thing that observes yourself.
01:23:19.000You know, someone will say, I'm really mad right now.
01:23:22.000The moment you say, I'm mad, you're creating a distinction between the thing that's observing that you're mad and the thing that's mad.
01:23:31.000So that observer, that watcher, that's the thing that, that mindfulness is what, you know, throughout My whole life I try to, you know, go into that place of observing myself rather than being the thing.
01:23:44.000And it's a game that you can play and it really is quite helpful with a variety of problems, especially if you get really angry.
01:23:51.000If you get really angry and you can stop yourself and just watch.
01:24:19.000That led me to like, you know, and then I found out about, you know, I think I read the electric Kool-Aid acid test, you know, about fucking Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters blasting themselves on acid and going to the World's Fair in a bus.
01:25:42.000So you think that you were like two Duncans, like Duncan 1 and Duncan 2?
01:25:46.000Like Duncan 1 is like regular Duncan growing up, innocent boy, boom, psychedelics, and then Duncan 2, 2.0.
01:25:53.000Yeah, there's definitely a Duncan 2 that happened, I'd say.
01:25:58.000And then that Duncan 2 changed too, man.
01:26:00.000Because as you get older, the best thing that can happen to you is you get knocked off track.
01:26:06.000That's the best thing that can happen to you in general.
01:26:08.000Because generally the track you're on has been set for you by people who never got off their track.
01:26:15.000You end up the child of someone who decided to have you in their 20s, 21, 22. They're not going to know a lot of stuff.
01:26:22.000They're not going to understand the universe that much unless they came from a really good family of like, Artists or intelligent people, chances are they're scared, hungry, desperate, angry.
01:26:33.000They don't want to be in the relationship anymore.
01:26:35.000They don't want to be monogamous anymore.
01:26:37.000The idea of non-monogamy to them might just seem insane.
01:26:52.000And that's a very sad path that you can get on.
01:26:54.000And so, hopefully, if you're lucky, you'll come across somebody who knocks you off that fucking path.
01:26:59.000You know, I remember the guy who hooked me up with acid.
01:27:01.000I remember sitting in the theater of my school, because I was a drama nerd, and I was sitting in the theater of my school next to this guy.
01:28:22.000And you have to, you know, it takes 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes longer for it to kick in.
01:28:26.000I still remember I was sitting in my friend's trailer, in a trailer park in North Carolina, sitting in an empty bathtub, like an empty jacuzzi tub that was in this trailer, and I'm sitting there, and they're watching Star Wars, and I'm sitting in this bathtub.
01:28:42.000And all of a sudden, the greatest feeling just started going through my legs and up into my body.
01:30:06.000And I'm looking at the ceiling and it's fucking...
01:30:09.000Hieroglyphics or some kind of like ancient writing you know I don't even think I knew what Sanskrit was at the time but I'd probably be like oh I'm seeing Sanskrit some kind of runes or glyphs all over my friend's car that's just kind of breathing and warping and it's just beautiful so yeah that was the that was the first time and and once you've had that experience how do you go back to a world a normal kind of world if First time I ever did acid.
01:30:45.000This is what made me think of a theory that every time you die, you don't know that you died, but then you left this world and everyone else in this other parallel world, they think you died.
01:31:10.000She goes, let's do Acid and see Nirvana.
01:31:12.000So we took Acid, and the opening band was on, which is some Asian band that just screamed the whole time, and it was like, you know, it's kind of like...
01:32:33.000And then, this is even better, and I swear to God, you could ask her, I'm not going to say who she is on here, but we started fucking while I was driving in the rainstorm on acid for my first time.
01:33:41.000The horrible idea, especially horrible to bring it up to anybody who's had poor fortune in this life, is to somehow or another connect it with past lives.
01:34:49.000People can start blaming their karma or where they're at right now on past lives, and it puts them in this place of stupid hopelessness, and they don't do the things they need to do right now to get to a better place.
01:36:28.000You'll be, you know, whatever the situation you're in, you'll feel like you're in the situation, you know, it's worth it, it's kind of bad, but it's totally worth it.
01:36:35.000This happens with jobs quite often, you know, where you're like, well, you know, but it's good enough.
01:38:17.000When you're puking, it's gonna suck because you're helpless and you can't breathe.
01:38:19.000go through it man fucking jab a fucking knife into the foot not literally of course but yeah you gotta act and you gotta make the big fucking decisions sometimes and it's scary if it wasn't scary it wouldn't be worth anything yeah for some people it's almost like they don't know how to start They know that there's action they need to take in their life, but they're paralyzed trying to think about it, trying to figure out how to start.
01:38:41.000And they can never gather up the courage to get away.
01:38:45.000That's why a lot of people stay in abusive relationships.
01:38:49.000Because it's scary and it seems like there's so many things that people will, like, ideas people will create that will keep you trapped in whatever prison you're in.
01:39:53.000You know, if the Himalayas were, you know, a little grass-covered hill in a park, nobody would take pictures of them at the top putting a flag into it.
01:40:23.000I always say that the energy vampires that you have in your life are really your number one enemy.
01:40:31.000They keep you from enjoying good times.
01:40:33.000Everybody knows that one person where you settle down and you're like, Finally I can fucking relax and you turn on the television and then someone for whatever fucking reason will decide that they have to talk to you now and they want to get angry at you now.
01:40:47.000It could be a guy or a girl, whoever the fuck it is.
01:40:50.000It's one person that wants to, they want to have power over you somehow or another and they want to stop you from doing what you want to do.
01:40:56.000There are people that have issues in relationships because one of the people in the relationship has some sort of a transparent issue with the other person.
01:41:04.000And what they try to do is they try to control that person from doing things that they want to do.
01:41:08.000Anytime the guy wants to go play basketball or something like that.
01:41:13.000They come up with a reason why now is the time I would really like you to take me shopping or now is the time.
01:41:17.000It's almost like they want to see if they can drag you away from the thing that you like to do, thus proving that they're the most important thing in your life.
01:41:47.000It's not fair if you're, you know, if you're fucking two chicks getting in a fight with each other, you know, two lesbians, and you're basically the same size, you know, hey, you know, I don't want you to fight, but...
01:41:56.000I don't know why you're fighting, but hopefully you got a good reason.
01:42:19.000We certainly have to protect people from that kind of violence.
01:42:26.000That's one of the ways that we know there's some sort of a weird disconnect between what we're capable of and the way we currently behave as a human race.
01:42:38.000The fact that it's even possible that we have a real issue with men beating the fuck out of women.
01:44:50.000I was like, you can't let that dude hit you in the head.
01:44:52.000But for whatever reason, it turned her on.
01:44:55.000Can you imagine having to tell someone, you shouldn't let that guy hit you in the head.
01:45:01.000Well, no, man, because, you know, what's confusing is guys can be, like, super loving after they do it because they feel terrible, and then they're, like, really, really, really affectionate.
01:45:12.000Some of them aren't even that, you know, but with a lot of people, they're the ones that, like, get drunk and blame it on getting drunk, and that's why they're abusing each other.
01:45:20.000It's a sad world out there and there's a lot of sad homes in America.
01:45:41.000And the wisdom of the indigenous people of the Amazon rainforest.
01:45:44.000For a combination of chanting and fleshlights, we will transform your...
01:45:49.000Well, the fleshlight use is mandatory when you're meditating at my ashram because I don't want anybody horny.
01:45:54.000I don't want, like, while you're in there and you're, you know, you're supposed to be doing your alms, you're thinking about getting your dick sucked.
01:46:01.000You know, like, the way, like, I read this great autobiography of Timothy Leary, and they were talking about, I can't remember the name of the famous house that he lived at, but where they were all tripping out and, like, constantly taking LSD. They would do this.
01:46:43.000All the fucking ego constructs, of which one of them is monogamy.
01:46:47.000Monogamy is an ego construct where you want to be the only person who is fucking the person that you're with, and they want you to be the only person to be fucking them.
01:46:59.000This is like a basic way that most people enter into relationships.
01:47:03.000So what these guys would do is they would have married couples, and what they would do is randomly Two people would be picked, a man and a woman, to go into this bowling alley that they had, and they would stay there for like three days straight and just take acid the whole time.
01:47:24.000That I'm sure that happened all the time.
01:47:26.000Well, that was McKenna's idea, was that an orgiastic mushroom cultures that existed in his, you know, I really think that's kind of, a lot of it was his imagination of what could have been possible.
01:47:36.000Because it doesn't seem like that you really explain exactly what these people were doing, you know, 10,000 years ago in Choctaw, Hyuk, and all these different places.
01:47:43.000But he had this idea that they developed this sort of an orgiastic mushroom style of living.
01:47:51.000And then people would get together and they would just come.
01:47:53.000So they would raise each other's kids.
01:47:54.000They would all be loving each other and all taking care of each other's kids.
01:47:59.000And I'm like, wow, that's kind of trippy.
01:49:57.000Somehow from your mind is removed all the negative or weird or strange connotations about sex.
01:50:04.000Now sex is just a physical experience of oneness with another person.
01:50:09.000So there's no – nothing from the zeitgeist has been put in your head.
01:50:13.000Now imagine eating mushrooms and all of a sudden being in the experience of having sex with a group of people with zero sexual inhibitions, with zero guilt.
01:50:26.000Just pure hedonistic pleasure as you sort of merge.
01:50:30.000This I completely agree with in the terms of like a utopian society.
01:50:36.000But the way our world runs, it's like my thoughts on it have always been, and my advice has always been, that when you find someone who you really enjoy hanging out with, hang out with them.
01:50:52.000If you get to a point where you really trust them and you're really honest with each other and you're really enjoying each other, find out what bothers that person.
01:51:06.000And if you can do that, if you can find someone you really sync up with and you actually enhance each other, Then the relationships are fucking beautiful.
01:51:13.000The real problem is most people, they're not even into exploring their own consciousness.
01:51:19.000They're not into exploring the origin of their own thoughts.
01:51:22.000They're not really into self-examination.
01:51:24.000They're not really into a lot of different things that lead to sometimes problematic conversations that you have.
01:51:30.000Especially when they have a commodity and the commodity is that they're an attractive woman.
01:51:35.000And you're in some sort of a weird situation where there's a master over you.
01:51:39.000It also depends on the way you get into the thing.
01:51:42.000If you look at the entry mechanism into these things, quite often it's purely based on physicality.
01:51:49.000The problem is that the drug of sex, it's really exciting and thrilling to get to the I love you part as quick as possible so the sex can get really intense.
01:52:14.000Oh yeah, and that first awesome time when you're just getting into a relationship where the person says, I think I'm falling in love with you and you've been feeling that.
01:52:44.000Have you ever seen that awful, what I consider to be the most grotesque experiment of all time where the fucking, they took a monkey, a little baby monkey, and they gave him a wire.
01:53:07.000Some people, but a lot of people are in that relationship where they're clinging to something that's not even real and they've tricked themselves into thinking that...
01:53:18.000And the real issue is the root, the other person.
01:53:20.000The real issue is the people that are raising these people.
01:53:22.000The real issue is how everyone starts out neutral with whatever blend of personality.
01:53:28.000I bet almost every kid, unless they have some serious neurological difficulties, almost every kid could be rendered a positive human being by the right people.
01:53:36.000They're surrounded by the right people.
01:53:38.000What we're doing is by putting the most important thing for the resources of the human race, the youthful people developing into contributing members of society who can Actually add to the culture, add to the experience, add to the process.
01:53:52.000And we're putting the development of our most valuable resource in the hands of everyone and anyone, including retards, morons, assholes, douchebags, fuckheads, everyone in between.
01:54:04.000There's a bunch of crazy motherfuckers shitting out kids every day, and you can't say anything about it because then you're Hitler.
01:54:11.000And then, you know, are you a fan of eugenics?
01:54:14.000Do you know how that didn't work in the past?
01:54:18.000This overpopulation by monkeys isn't working either.
01:54:21.000Well, that's why you got to be a bit of a – I mean, if you start waking up to – Yeah, we got to wake all these people up and figure out a way to reevaluate – I mean, not reevaluate, but reset people's minds, to reset people's – whatever it is that your operating system is – wherever it's failing.
01:54:38.000You know sometimes I'll get these really fucking flattering tweets from people who listen to this.
01:54:45.000I'm like, man, I wish I had friends like you guys in my hometown to talk to.
01:54:49.000And that's really a super sweet thing to say.
01:54:51.000But I always think to myself, you know what?
01:56:22.000But it also makes me think, I wonder if it's just that the mechanism for retrieving really good, interesting, creative ideas, that the mechanism for thinking, you have to have all your resources, all your facilitating resources, so the ego has to be fucking completely quiet.
01:56:41.000And if the ego is not completely quiet, the ego is like, I'm going to get some fucking new clothes so I can look slick.
01:56:49.000And I'm thinking about getting a nose ring.
01:57:49.000Whatever fucking vehicle you need to use to get to the point where the thing's turned off, use it.
01:57:55.000If you need to conceptualize it by thinking you're connecting with some kind of super intelligent consciousness that just wants the planet to be happier because it doesn't want the planet to die and it's giving its own voice to as many people as allow it to.
01:58:24.000Use whatever mechanism you have to use to dissolve your ego to the point where you're not going to turn into a fucking dick.
01:58:30.000Because the moment you start claiming ownership over whatever it is, man, I think the most obvious version of it is super attractive people who act like they deserve it, who act like they've done something for it.
01:59:00.000It's so unfortunate because of all the shit you could talk about, like, when a really hot chick shits on a girl for not being so pretty, like, wow, that's like, damn.
01:59:09.000But, dude, what is more deadly and attractive than a super hot girl...
01:59:14.000Who doesn't care that she's super hot.
01:59:17.000Who's managed to overcome all the fucking years of being worshipped by people.
02:02:44.000When you started working there, I remember you went through this little struggle where you wanted to be a comic, but they didn't take you seriously while you're still working there.
02:03:25.000It might be entirely made up of imagination.
02:03:27.000The more time moves forward, the more I wonder if there's a theory, and I believe that you were the first one to introduce me to this theory as well, the theory that your life, the world that you live in, is really something that your own mind has created.
02:03:42.000And as you get older and your body starts to slowly deteriorate and progress towards death in your own particular universe, that's when the shit hits the fan and it all goes down.
02:03:53.000And you've managed to manufacture this idea inside your mind that the life you experience is an actual real life, when what it really is, is just a series of events that have been tied together to prepare you for the next stage of existence.
02:04:10.000And the more that you can let go of your attachments to this particular life and become the thing that is throughout the evolutionary cycle, then the less traumatic death will be.
02:04:23.000Can you imagine if that really does get proved someday?
02:05:03.000Imagine there's a hell, and the only way that you could keep the people in hell was making sure that they didn't realize that at any second they could turn that hell into heaven.
02:05:14.000You had to keep them oblivious to this idea.
02:05:17.000You would realize that the thing you're talking about, the things that obscure the light, so to speak, of making people's lives great, it's like TV. It's the media.
02:05:26.000Every time you turn the fucking TV on, it's showing you death and destruction.
02:05:30.000When you turn on the radio, they're talking about wars and bombs.
02:05:33.000Everywhere you go, look, it's darkness, darkness and darkness.
02:05:36.000It's like people are really trying to keep our consciousness focused on the dark instead of on the light.
02:05:42.000But if there was a global movement to try to get people's minds to shift from the obsession with death and all the forms of negativity that so many people are focused on and to turn their minds towards the beauty And towards friendship and towards healthy sex and towards embracing each other, then really this entire planet could transform into some version of heaven, I think.
02:08:15.000I don't know where the name came from, but I do understand this idea of, like, rebirth, or the idea of, like, once you get knocked off track, why not go really deep and fucking just rename yourself altogether?
02:08:28.000That is the best cult speech I've ever heard in my life.
02:08:31.000That's the way to get people to really drink that Kool-Aid.
02:10:44.000Every time you have an issue, he's going to know a little bit more of how to fix your issue.
02:10:48.000And he's going to give you some awesome advice.
02:10:50.000And you're going to start really getting freaked out as to how this fake Duncan Trussell really knows how to manage the real Duncan Trussell's life.
02:10:56.000And then you're eventually just going to We live under the assumption that this fake Twitter account, Charles Duncan Trussell, is actually the universe giving you advice through Twitter.
02:14:53.000Because I was just complaining because they don't fly the comics out and it's just generally a bum deal.
02:14:58.000And I'm just saying this because pretty much right after I... From that video, I got invited to this awesome festival that's happening in Austin called the Moon Tower Comedy Festival.
02:15:09.000And that's happening in April, and they just are doing the press releases today, and I just think it's so fucking cool that they're showing that festivals can pay performers, pay airfare, and put them up, which isn't that insane an idea.
02:16:12.000I'm sure South by Southwest does charity, but when you ask artists to perform for free at your festival that's sponsored by 16 million different corporations, it's a bit of a charity.
02:16:23.000The strongest memory of South by Southwest 2010 was a rooftop party when the South by Southwest partygoers spontaneously raised $300 towards the purchase of a wheelchair for the nephew of one attendee.
02:16:36.000The young man was paralyzed temporarily and the family could not afford a wheelchair.
02:16:59.000No, I think some of the bigger names get paid, but mostly after I did these videos, mostly what I heard from people is that the idea, here's the concept, to play South by Southwest advocate, the idea behind it is Hey man, it's just we're all having fun out here.
02:17:16.000It's a chance to hang out with a bunch of other comics and have a good time.
02:17:19.000We don't invite a lot of comics out, so it's an honor to get invited out, and you're going to get a chance to perform.
02:17:25.000We'll put you up in someone's guest bedroom, but we can't pay you, and we can't pay for your airfare, and if you want to stay in a hotel, you're going to have to pay for your own hotel.
02:17:38.000Now, I think that that, coming from a festival that really was a charity, like the Make-A-Wish Foundation, or something that was solely raising money for charity, or even a startup festival.
02:17:47.000What about just a startup festival that seems really cool and isn't making any money?
02:17:55.000But I think when it's coming from a festival the size of South by Southwest, which is a I read that 30,000 people come through there a year and they're asking performers to come out for free and to pay for their own ticket.
02:18:10.000I think there's something in that that's pretty fucked up.
02:18:13.000Dear Southwest Airlines, if you want me to come, I'll totally do it and I'll pay for everything.
02:19:40.000It's a whole town, you know, Montreal, that literally has been privy to these festivals coming in every year.
02:19:46.000So they have this really high palette for comedy.
02:19:49.000It's a fucking great place to do comedy.
02:19:51.000We were supposed to go back in March, but unfortunately, the UFC had to move its March date.
02:19:57.000They had to move the Montreal date because no champions were available, and they were going to put together a big card for up there, so they postponed it.
02:20:09.000Montreal, I don't care about, like, I don't want to come across, like, I'm like, you gotta fucking, you gotta pay up if you want me to, it's not that at all, it's like.
02:20:40.000But if you look at what they're doing, even if you think that they should be paying more, like Stanhope does, it's fucking infinitely better than nothing.
02:21:01.000Imagine you're staying over someone you don't even know.
02:21:03.000And also, the other thing that the guy said to me during these emails, and the guy who books it is a super nice guy.
02:21:09.000I started feeling guilty because he's a really nice guy, a very friendly guy, but he couldn't acknowledge the one point that I was making, which is that if you're charging tickets, For people to come see performers, you have to pay the performers something.
02:21:41.000In my opinion, if you're looking at CES, the Consumer Electronics Show, or any of these huge things, people are usually going because it's what they love and it's a collection.
02:21:52.000And to me, I would go just because it would be an awesome party.
02:21:57.000Here's the problem with that in my mind.
02:21:59.000The thing that I can't get past is that the reason it's fun and the reason people are going is because of the great fucking performers that are there.
02:22:46.000That's all you got to do is make it fair.
02:22:48.000These concerts like South by Southwest, isn't this where people go to go, hey, we're looking for people for the next year's sitcoms and stuff like that?
02:23:28.000It's just, if he would just, you know, if they would just make one small step in the direction, being like, you know what, we thought about it.
02:23:36.000We should pay airfare for the performers to come out.
02:23:58.000That's like, when you look at human beings as some sort of a life form, and you look at just what this article says, nine ways to profit from South by Southwest, even if you weren't there.
02:24:06.000The idea that you could be extracting resources from some spot you're not in.
02:26:09.000Well, that's a dangerous area, too, because they've got a lot of Mexican people that go up there to grow pot, and guys actually stay there.
02:26:22.000I believe it's on True TV, one of those reality TV networks.
02:26:25.000Anyway, these people did an investigative journalism thing where they went into the woods up there, very dense woods up there, and they found these crazy campsites.
02:26:34.000These guys had set up with this guy who was the Saint of Narcos.
02:27:56.000The consciousness of this country, this world, this global entity, this human race, the consciousness of this human race is altering right in front of our eyes with the internet.
02:28:10.000And the internet and psychedelic experiences together Shit has changed more in this hundred years than at any time ever.
02:28:20.000Just the idea of how people feel about life on Earth.
02:29:21.000I can't use enough positive words to describe how awesome it is that you guys, first of all, just like the show, but then that you make like these little videos and little...
02:29:30.000I mean, there's so many cool videos of rants of just you and I. Just you and I just going off about stuff.
02:29:39.000That stuff is the coolest stuff ever, man.
02:29:41.000That stuff really, really makes me happy.
02:29:44.000When that rant we had that landed on Alex Jones, where I was talking about Alex Jones getting arrested, and that landed on his website, that was intense, man.
02:29:55.000I was like, fuck, we're going to end up in a fucking FEMA camp.
02:30:08.000We communicate to those people and they're not going to do what these assholes are telling them to do.
02:30:13.000That's ultimately a real problem with civil unrest in this country.
02:30:16.000The fucking genies out of the bottle, the cops, the firemen, everybody knows that this is a fucking mess.
02:30:21.000Everybody knows that these people are just doing what you're supposed to do when you're an American.
02:30:27.000They're protesting some gross injustices and they don't know exactly how to do it.
02:30:31.000And the way I've described them is that there's a fucking...
02:30:33.000There's a problem, and they're white blood cells, and they're surrounding this problem, and they don't know how to conquer it, and they don't know what to do, but the fact that so many people have gravitated towards one area, if you were looking at any other organism and this sort of a situation was happening, you're like, well, clearly there's some sort of a disease, there's an illness, there's a sickness, there's an issue that's being addressed.
02:30:52.000Something very, very important is being addressed.
02:31:16.000You know, you go over there and you see them and you're just like, you gotta take them in.
02:31:19.000Well, yeah, I knew that we'd have no problem getting, man, there is nothing fun, like, the power of fucking young things, they're so powerful that they can wake you up at four in the mornings, you know, squeaking, and you go in there and they will do jailbreaks where they would, like, get out and suddenly the house is just flooded with chihuahua puppies that you're trying to, like, bring back in.
02:35:08.000So, thank you to everybody that tunes in.
02:35:11.000Thanks to all the positive Twitter messages and all the cool shit.
02:35:14.000You know, the cool people outnumber the cunts by a staggering amount.
02:35:19.000There's so many more cool people out there that I'm connecting with because of Twitter, because of Facebook, because of this podcast, because of the internet.
02:35:27.000There's so many more cool people out there than anybody imagines.
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02:35:50.000Eventually, I guarantee you, I predict, they will be sponsoring the Death Squad as well.
02:36:15.000The Death Squad is free on iTunes, and it's the only place to get the Ice House Chronicles, which is a podcast that we do live from the Ice House.
02:36:22.000Seriously, it is, to me, the coolest fucking thing that we do.
02:36:38.000We have a room at the Ice House, and so we have this stand-up show that's totally sold out, packed, little, tiny, intimate, awesome room, and then the comics are rotating and going on stage from the podcast, and it's amazing.
02:36:51.000It's the most fun and the closest you can get to, like, Hanging with a bunch of best friends in the green room before we go up there and fuck shit up.
02:37:01.000It's like the greatest podcast of all time.
02:37:53.000Now that everybody has iTunes, so many people have Apple TV, so many people have Netflix, I get more messages about my streaming special from 2005 on Netflix.
02:38:03.000I get more email about that particular special than anything I've ever done ever.
02:38:08.000Because I think more people are seeing it through Netflix.
02:38:11.000I don't know if they can get the last one, the Talking Monkeys in Space, but the Netflix one, they made.