The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru

00:00:12.000 Pleasure to meet you.

00:00:13.000 Right there, that's good.

00:00:15.000 Yeah, like a fist from your face is what I usually tell people.

00:00:20.000 Well, I'm enjoying your book.

00:00:22.000 Which one are you reading?

00:00:23.000 I'm in the middle of...

00:00:24.000 Which one?

00:00:25.000 Inner Engineering.

00:00:26.000 Oh, okay.

00:00:27.000 Why is that funny?

00:00:29.000 Is that a funny one?

00:00:30.000 No, that was the...

00:00:31.000 I mean, after the three books have come, so I was thinking you must have gotten a more recent one.

00:00:36.000 Well, I found some of your stuff online, and I started watching some of your videos online, and they're very interesting and very educational.

00:00:43.000 And then I said, all right, let me find out what this guy's all about.

00:00:46.000 And so I got into that book.

00:00:48.000 That's good.

00:00:49.000 How did you find out about me?

00:00:51.000 Because your people reached out to be on here.

00:00:54.000 Well, right now we are on this soil mission.

00:00:57.000 I brought you a little bit of gift.

00:00:59.000 It's an Indian mint.

00:01:00.000 Indian mint?

00:01:01.000 This leaf, an empty stomach.

00:01:04.000 If you just chew two leaves, they're not very pleasant to eat.

00:01:07.000 And then drink some maybe tepid water.

00:01:10.000 Okay.

00:01:10.000 It is a great blood purifier.

00:01:13.000 Blood purifier?

00:01:14.000 Yes.

00:01:15.000 Oh.

00:01:15.000 How does it purify your blood?

00:01:16.000 How does that work?

00:01:18.000 It has the necessary juices in it to do that.

00:01:21.000 The necessary juices.

00:01:23.000 Safe soil.

00:01:24.000 I always wondered about these things, about pots that plants come in.

00:01:29.000 Do you think plants like that?

00:01:33.000 Definitely not.

00:01:34.000 They would like to grow wild.

00:01:35.000 This is just a baby.

00:01:37.000 It's in a nursery.

00:01:38.000 You have to take it home and put it in your backyard.

00:01:41.000 Okay.

00:01:41.000 That's what I want to hear.

00:01:42.000 Or a much bigger pot.

00:01:44.000 Because once I started learning about mycology and how...

00:01:47.000 This is not where it would like to grow.

00:01:50.000 This is just a baby.

00:01:51.000 Just a baby.

00:01:51.000 Even a big pot, they don't really like that, right?

00:01:54.000 They would like to be in the ground.

00:01:56.000 Ground is best, no question, because there is a...

00:01:59.000 Ecosystem, which has to connect with it.

00:02:02.000 There's nothing like the ground.

00:02:04.000 But because in Texas or in Austin, it could get too cold for her.

00:02:10.000 So, she may not survive in your garden, then you have to bring her in.

00:02:14.000 I don't want her to die.

00:02:15.000 So, wintertime, maybe you'll have to bring it in.

00:02:19.000 So maybe I can pot it outside during the spring and then put it inside.

00:02:26.000 Winter, you have to bring her in. 0.97

00:02:28.000 Okay.

00:02:29.000 All right.

00:02:29.000 We'll work it out.

00:02:30.000 We'll figure it out.

00:02:31.000 Because she's Indian, you know? 0.75

00:02:31.000 She's Indian. 0.75

00:02:32.000 Yeah, I know.

00:02:33.000 I mean, really Indian, not Native American.

00:02:36.000 Right.

00:02:36.000 They have a lot of Indian animals in Texas, believe it or not.

00:02:41.000 Really?

00:02:41.000 Yeah, Axis deer.

00:02:43.000 It's a very common animal out here.

00:02:46.000 Really?

00:02:47.000 Yeah, they imported them here.

00:02:48.000 I don't know when, but they're all over the place.

00:02:51.000 I saw one like six months ago on the side of the road.

00:02:55.000 Yeah.

00:02:57.000 So some things from India survived, but a lot of them died off.

00:03:01.000 Last year we had a very big freeze that lasted for a couple of weeks and a lot of exotic animals from other countries that people brought in.

00:03:10.000 Unless they're from the northern part of India, where it's in the Himalayan region, they may survive. 1.00

00:03:15.000 But South Indian animals like me won't make it in winter.

00:03:21.000 So you're on this grand tour right now, you were saying.

00:03:25.000 You just got back from...

00:03:26.000 You were in New York, right?

00:03:27.000 Yes, I was in… I just came from India two days ago.

00:03:31.000 Then I was in New York, Tennessee, New York and here and today.

00:03:35.000 This night I'm leaving for Caribbean because we are making, signing some memorandum of understanding with the CARICOM nations for the soil, safe soil movement.

00:03:46.000 So, they're all coming on board.

00:03:48.000 We have made a policy document specific for each country, depending on their latitude, soil types, economic conditions, and agricultural traditions of an individual nation.

00:03:59.000 Based on this hundred and ninety-two nations, we've made soil policies.

00:04:04.000 So this is something that you're very concerned about, and rightly so, that there's a problem with the topsoil in America in particular that we've been aware of for a long time where there's only like, what's the number, like 45 years worth of topsoil left if we go about practices the same way?

00:04:24.000 Generally, most UN agencies are talking about something like 60 to 80 horvests, which could be somewhere between 45 to 60 years of topsoil.

00:04:36.000 But it's not like it's suddenly going to get over one day.

00:04:40.000 It's not like a bank account.

00:04:42.000 It'll start sliding, which is already sliding.

00:04:45.000 So, sliding means on one level there is loss of nutrients in the food, and another level the yields are coming down.

00:04:53.000 We're going on increasing the inputs, the input cost is going up.

00:04:56.000 They tell me, fifty percent of the American farmers have not seen a dollar in the last twelve years.

00:05:03.000 And the highest suicide rate among all professions is among the farming community in the United States.

00:05:09.000 Really?

00:05:09.000 Yes, it is so in India also.

00:05:12.000 I know it's in India and I thought they attributed that a lot to debt.

00:05:16.000 But why debt?

00:05:18.000 Why the debt is piling up?

00:05:20.000 The banks give debt only what is suitable for that crop.

00:05:25.000 It's not like they're going to give you a billion dollars to do some farming.

00:05:29.000 They're going to calculate and give you.

00:05:31.000 Why is he not able to pay it back?

00:05:32.000 He's not able to pay it back.

00:05:34.000 One main reason is the input cost is going up year on year because the soil fertility is going down and the input cost is going up to a point where it's no more practical to do it.

00:05:46.000 There was also some sort of an issue with Monsanto, correct?

00:05:50.000 Those things are there, but...

00:05:53.000 You don't think that's a big deal?

00:05:55.000 It would be if it came big time, but Monsanto is not so big time in India yet.

00:06:00.000 It's not?

00:06:01.000 No, the policies have kind of blocked it and made it regulated.

00:06:04.000 So, we have not taken to GMO crops in a big way.

00:06:09.000 Only a few items we have taken.

00:06:13.000 Even that, people are protesting and generally farmers are aware and most people, large number of farmers have rejected it.

00:06:20.000 So, that's a different aspect.

00:06:22.000 See, the problem is always, we're always saying whom to hit, all right?

00:06:28.000 So, this is a movement which is not against anybody because in this one thing, we can all come together as one.

00:06:36.000 We may be of different nations, we may be of different racial backgrounds, religious backgrounds, caste, creed, gender, whatever, and political ideologies, whatever.

00:06:46.000 But we all come from soil, live off the soil and when we die, we go back to the soil.

00:06:52.000 The only question we have in our life is, will we get this that soil is the basis of our existence here, will we get this now or will we get it when we're buried?

00:07:02.000 That's the only choice we have.

00:07:04.000 So, having said that, see, people are talking about organic farming.

00:07:08.000 These are all Urban people talking about it, they've never farmed in their life. 0.63

00:07:13.000 They don't know what it means to do organic farming.

00:07:15.000 Right now, if the world shifts to organic farming hundred percent, let's say tomorrow morning, our food production in the world will come down to twenty to twenty-five percent of what it is right now.

00:07:27.000 So that is death for most of the population.

00:07:30.000 So when they're talking about organic farming, they're talking about farming with no pesticides, no herbicides?

00:07:35.000 No pesticides, no fertilizer, all this.

00:07:37.000 No fertilizer?

00:07:39.000 Fertilizer is non-organic?

00:07:41.000 Yes, it is chemical fertilizer, right?

00:07:43.000 Okay, but what about organic fertilizer?

00:07:46.000 That is a manure.

00:07:48.000 Organic content is different.

00:07:50.000 So people who are talking about this, it's an ideal life, okay?

00:07:55.000 Right.

00:07:56.000 But will a farmer who is doing it for his commercial requirement, will he be able to conduct his agriculture in an idealistic way?

00:08:04.000 No, believe me.

00:08:05.000 I've been engaged with farmers.

00:08:07.000 It's not like that.

00:08:08.000 It's like you're eating good food, but if you have yourself checked up, your doctor may say, well, your calcium is a little deficient, your iron is deficient, so take these two pills.

00:08:19.000 So, you took these two pills and tomorrow you felt great.

00:08:22.000 Then you decided you don't have to really eat food, you can just eat a lot of these pills and you will be fine.

00:08:27.000 That is how we have done agriculture.

00:08:30.000 We had rich soil, in that whatever is deficient, we put a little bit of nitrogen or phosphate or something, suddenly the crops burst out.

00:08:39.000 Then we forgot that we have to put organic content.

00:08:42.000 We just started putting these salts forever, and in 25 to 30 years' time, the soil becomes fallow.

00:08:50.000 Yeah, there's a book I read years ago called Dead Doctors Don't Lie by a man named Dr. Joel Wallach, and it talked about mineral deficiencies from topsoils.

00:08:59.000 It was a big issue, and one of the things that he brought up is that people who grow agriculture and have animals have known forever that they have to supplement the animal's diets with minerals, and that this is primarily because the food that they're getting is not minerally sufficient.

00:09:19.000 Yes.

00:09:19.000 And that's the same thing with our own food.

00:09:21.000 Because even though you can grow a lot of these vegetables, you're not getting the same nutrients that you would if you had rich topsoil.

00:09:28.000 Not at all.

00:09:29.000 See, the amount of nourishment or micronutrients that you got from a given vegetable, let's say in early 20th century, let's say 1920, And today what you're getting from the same thing is approximately 10% of that.

00:09:45.000 10%?

00:09:45.000 Yes.

00:09:46.000 90% drop has happened.

00:09:47.000 Wow.

00:09:48.000 So it's enough to grow the food.

00:09:50.000 Especially these studies are available in United States.

00:09:53.000 Everywhere in the world there are not enough studies, but it could be a similar number, if not the same amount.

00:09:58.000 It could be something like that.

00:10:00.000 Anywhere between 10 to 25%, let's say.

00:10:03.000 For example, if you ate an orange in 1920, today to get the same stuff, you will have to eat eight oranges.

00:10:11.000 So, it's simply not practical.

00:10:13.000 So, people think this malnourishment, these problems and this starvation, these things will happen only to Africa or South America or somewhere.

00:10:22.000 No.

00:10:23.000 World Food Program predicts that by 2035, there could be famines around Illinois region.

00:10:29.000 Illinois?

00:10:30.000 Yes.

00:10:30.000 Really?

00:10:31.000 Because the food that they're eating is deficient in nutrients?

00:10:34.000 No, the thing is the soil has been so used up.

00:10:36.000 You heard of 1930s, the Dust Bowl.

00:10:40.000 Yesterday I was in New York and I was talking to somebody there.

00:10:43.000 So they're saying that some whatever volume, I don't know the volume, but some enormous amount of dust came and settled in New York City when the Dust Bowls just came up like, you know, it just blinded the whole, half the country.

00:10:58.000 So People are calculating how many whatever million tons or hundreds and thousands of tons of dust or soil landed up in New York City.

00:11:07.000 See, it stopped in New York City because of the tall buildings and stuff.

00:11:11.000 But how many millions of tons of soil, American soil, went and landed in Atlantic Ocean?

00:11:17.000 That you can never calculate, right?

00:11:19.000 Right.

00:11:21.000 When farmers are growing these monocrop agriculture, like if they're growing corn or soy or things like that, is that part of the problems?

00:11:33.000 It's not enough regenerative agriculture, not enough manure, animals grazing on the same lands?

00:11:38.000 Monoculture is a basic problem, okay?

00:11:42.000 And we've gotten into this kind of thing because we are looking at soil like some industrial machine that we put in so much and we have to get so much.

00:11:51.000 But soil is a living thing.

00:11:53.000 If you take a handful of soil, there are anywhere between seven to ten billion organisms in it, anywhere between fifty to seventy-five thousand species of organisms in it.

00:12:04.000 But now with… we are plowing with machines, it plows anywhere between twelve to fourteen inches.

00:12:11.000 Eighty-seven percent of the life on this planet, including you and me, come from the first twelve to fifteen inches of the soil.

00:12:18.000 But we are plowing the soil twelve to fourteen inches, leaving it open to harsh sunlight and leaving it like that for months.

00:12:25.000 That itself is a tremendous damage.

00:12:27.000 We have taken to this because Of monoculture, you crop everything at once.

00:12:33.000 If it was multicultural, you would crop one thing, the other thing would be still there. 1.00

00:12:39.000 And by the time you crop that, another one would have again grown up, you know?

00:12:44.000 There would be some greenery on the soil and organic activity would be going on.

00:12:50.000 Microorganisms would be alive and active.

00:12:51.000 But now, it's a single crop.

00:12:54.000 You take everything out by machines, plow it and leave it open to the sun.

00:12:58.000 That's causing a massive damage.

00:13:00.000 Now, if we do it another way, if you have a bunch of different plants growing there and you leave trees for shade and all sorts, is there enough land with what they're growing on now, with the amount of food that they're growing now?

00:13:16.000 Is this scalable if you have some sort of regenerative agriculture plan?

00:13:21.000 We can grow much more on much less land.

00:13:24.000 Really?

00:13:24.000 Yes.

00:13:25.000 See, we have been doing this for over twenty-four, twenty-five years now.

00:13:29.000 We've converted a few hundred thousand farmers into what is called as tree-based agriculture.

00:13:34.000 Earlier, we used to call it as agroforestry.

00:13:39.000 Then it came under trouble because then the whole thing went under the forest ministry.

00:13:45.000 Forest ministry is full of restrictions.

00:13:47.000 It is actually agricultural land, but it was called as agroforestry.

00:13:51.000 So we retitled it as tree-based agriculture.

00:13:54.000 So now it's under the agriculture ministry because it's farmer's land.

00:13:58.000 It's not forest land.

00:13:59.000 Right.

00:14:00.000 So, by doing this properly, there are scientific ways of doing it.

00:14:04.000 Different crops can be done differently.

00:14:06.000 And pruning the trees at the right time and taking that… See, enough green material should be generated on the farm.

00:14:13.000 Enough animal waste must be generated on the farm.

00:14:16.000 Right now, animals have gone out of the farms and trees have gone off the farm.

00:14:20.000 So, where is the organic material?

00:14:21.000 These are only two sources of organic material that you have in the world.

00:14:26.000 You may have any kind...

00:14:27.000 because I've been in California in the last month, and whatever you say, somebody comes up and says, Sadhguru, my friend has made an app, it can solve any problem.

00:14:37.000 See, with technology, you may be able to improve the application.

00:14:42.000 I'll give that margin.

00:14:44.000 But you cannot generate organic content with technology.

00:14:48.000 It's only plant life and animal life which can create organic content.

00:14:53.000 There is no way you can generate organic content anywhere else.

00:14:56.000 It has to come from the land.

00:14:58.000 Simply there is no other way.

00:15:00.000 If I can tell you a joke, you're getting very serious about this soil business.

00:15:04.000 I love a joke.

00:15:06.000 This happened in 2060. A few scientists from the planet got an appointment with God.

00:15:14.000 They wanted to meet him.

00:15:15.000 They went there and said, hey, old man, you've done pretty well with creation, but today everything that you can do, we can also do.

00:15:24.000 It's time you retire.

00:15:27.000 God said, oh, is that so?

00:15:28.000 What is it that you can do?

00:15:31.000 So, they dug up little bit of soil and made a vague picture of a human child and did so many things and within a few minutes the child set up a life.

00:15:41.000 God said, oh, that's really impressive, but first get your own soil.

00:15:47.000 Everything, whether it's a worm or an insect or a plant or a bird or an animal or human beings, we've all come from soil.

00:15:54.000 There is nothing else here on this planet which is not… the source is not soil.

00:15:59.000 Everything, the source is soil.

00:16:01.000 So say if you have something that's a large monocrop like corn, it's a big one in America, and you wanted to transform the way they're growing corn and make it so that it's sustainable and that you have some sort of regenerative agriculture situation.

00:16:20.000 How would you do that?

00:16:21.000 See, if you want to grow monocrops, I wouldn't advise that.

00:16:26.000 That's not the best way to do it.

00:16:27.000 But for commercial reasons, you want to do monocropping, all right?

00:16:31.000 Right.

00:16:31.000 You're a corn farmer, you don't want to grow anything else if that is so, you must put back substantial amount of organic content.

00:16:38.000 Because even if you take a corn plant, which grows almost six to seven feet tall, and you're only eating the corn, you don't have animals on the farm largely.

00:16:48.000 If you just… the plant part of it, if you just chop it into pieces and put it back in the soil, the soil will be very happy.

00:16:55.000 You got your corn anyway.

00:16:58.000 And soil will be very rich.

00:17:00.000 What do they do with it now?

00:17:01.000 Right now, they bail it up and sell it to somebody.

00:17:04.000 Some people in some countries, they just burn it.

00:17:06.000 They use it as fuel for, you know, household purposes, or they use it in so many other ways, but it is not going back into the soil.

00:17:14.000 And they just use commercial fertilizer?

00:17:17.000 Yes.

00:17:19.000 That will last for the first 10, 20 years maximum.

00:17:24.000 After that, it'll start diminishing because you can't just grow with salts.

00:17:27.000 You need organic content.

00:17:28.000 Because the way the soil mechanics happen is it's a very complex and sophisticated marketplace.

00:17:36.000 The plants have to capture the carbon from the atmosphere and make it into carbon sugars, and that is the currency with which it can exchange for nutrients with organisms.

00:17:46.000 They won't give it free.

00:17:48.000 So even in our own stomach, you… today you know that without the gut microbiome, you cannot really digest the food that you eat without their cooperation.

00:17:57.000 Though what is happening in the soil is probably a thousand, ten thousand or a million times more complex operation.

00:18:05.000 Who we are right now as a life, we are just a consequence of what's happening in the soil.

00:18:11.000 Even in the evolutionary process, that's how it's happened.

00:18:14.000 That today, what we are right now, over sixty percent of our body is actually microorganisms.

00:18:20.000 Only forty percent is our parental genetics.

00:18:23.000 Rest is all microorganisms.

00:18:26.000 So, what we are now is a reflection of what's in the soil.

00:18:30.000 The moment you weaken the soil, life on the planet will start becoming weak.

00:18:34.000 People don't notice this.

00:18:37.000 I know this is a controversial thing to say, but I think you're known for controversy, so what's my problem?

00:18:43.000 So, I'm saying, see for example, there are certain countries which are suffering this whole coronavirus much more than the other.

00:18:54.000 I don't want to make a absolute statement about this, but one thing is something we must look at is, any doctor, you don't need a top virologist, a simple doctor will tell you, if you lack vitamin A, vitamin B6, B12,

00:19:09.000 D, E, and you know, foliate and iron and zinc and magnesium in your system, you will become susceptible to upper respiratory tract infections.

00:19:21.000 This is a known fact.

00:19:22.000 Yes.

00:19:23.000 So, what is the deficiency in America?

00:19:28.000 Vitamin E, most Americans are 90% deficient.

00:19:32.000 D? Yes.

00:19:34.000 Vitamin A, 43% deficient.

00:19:37.000 Vitamin C, 39% deficient.

00:19:40.000 Like this, you can go on.

00:19:42.000 With all these deficiencies, we are trying to make it up with pills.

00:19:46.000 I see I was in Los Angeles last month, And there's a building-sized hoarding which says, my favorite pharmacy.

00:19:56.000 I said, when did this happen?

00:19:58.000 The next thing is you'll say my favorite hospital, next thing you'll say my favorite symmetry.

00:20:04.000 Your pharmacy and hospital and symmetry are not favorite places.

00:20:08.000 We go there only when it's inevitable.

00:20:12.000 We may have to go there, but we don't wish to go there.

00:20:16.000 When you say something is my favorite, you want to go there, all right?

00:20:20.000 That's what it means.

00:20:22.000 So, you should never have a favorite pharmacy or a favorite cemetery for that matter.

00:20:26.000 It is a place when it's inevitable, something, some trouble came, we will have to go.

00:20:31.000 But today, it's become the norm in, well, the most affluent country in the nation, where there's a variety of choices of nourishment.

00:20:40.000 In this country, without pills, you cannot exist because the food doesn't have the stuff.

00:20:46.000 So, once the food doesn't have the stuff, people won't have it either.

00:20:51.000 All animals won't have it either.

00:20:52.000 So, the very species will become weaker and weaker by the day.

00:20:56.000 In a few generations, it'll become so weak that we won't be able to sustain a common cold.

00:21:01.000 We could become like that.

00:21:02.000 So, you taking a pill will bridge you for some time.

00:21:07.000 It is not a solution for life.

00:21:10.000 When something is lacking, a pill will bridge us across a little bit.

00:21:13.000 But it is not a solution.

00:21:15.000 How it comes through the complex mechanism of food and how it becomes part of our body and a simple chemical of a tablet, they are not the same thing.

00:21:25.000 They will not do the same things to us.

00:21:27.000 And what other consequences it has, nobody can ever estimate because there are so many other consequences in a country like United States where there is a whole choice of nourishment and a whole choice of lifestyles.

00:21:41.000 You are spending nearly three and a half trillion dollars in healthcare.

00:21:45.000 That is a huge statement about America's health.

00:21:49.000 Well, it's very obvious if you look at most Americans.

00:21:52.000 And what's really interesting is there's been some photos that people have put up recently of beaches from the 1970s.

00:21:59.000 And you see these people on the beach with their shirts off and bikinis on and They look so good.

00:22:05.000 They look so much healthier.

00:22:07.000 They look so much different than people look today.

00:22:11.000 When you go to the beach today, you have a large...

00:22:14.000 I mean, it's a representative of America.

00:22:17.000 And in America, some large percentage of people are overweight.

00:22:21.000 And a lot of that is because of the food choices.

00:22:23.000 A lot of that is because of what's fast and quick and available.

00:22:27.000 One thing about obesity is...

00:22:30.000 See, when the food lacks the necessary nutrients, the body longs for more food to fulfill that need.

00:22:38.000 So, you end up eating more and more thinking you'll… I mean, the body is thinking that it'll get nourishment by eating more.

00:22:44.000 That more makes you grow horizontally.

00:22:46.000 Yes.

00:22:47.000 And it's also like the kind of food.

00:22:49.000 You know, if there's food that has a lot of sugar in it, your body freaks out and it just wants more of it and it can't stop eating it because it's an unnatural state to have that much sugar in something that doesn't have fiber.

00:23:00.000 Like if you're drinking a sugary drink.

00:23:04.000 I mean...

00:23:07.000 I don't know how to say this.

00:23:09.000 I'm not being disparaging about a nation or a society.

00:23:13.000 Go ahead.

00:23:13.000 But the food choices in America are atrocious.

00:23:17.000 There's a lot of bad choices.

00:23:18.000 But there's also a disconnect in America because there's so many people that live in urban environments.

00:23:30.000 They have no connection to it.

00:23:37.000 They don't know about it at all.

00:23:38.000 They just look for the term organic when they go to the supermarket and they feel like they're healthy if they do that.

00:23:44.000 See, I mean, this is not talking about women's choices of footwear, but I call this high heel life. 0.90

00:23:51.000 That means you're well above the earth.

00:23:54.000 You're living in an apartment which is 14 floors above the earth.

00:23:58.000 You're working all the time with insulated from the earth.

00:24:02.000 In every way, you are trying to be away from the earth.

00:24:05.000 Yeah.

00:24:06.000 Which is a wrong way.

00:24:08.000 You… people may believe they will go to different types of heavens depending on their belief systems, but we all come from the same soil.

00:24:17.000 Being connected with that is most essential because the body is thriving only because of its natural connection.

00:24:23.000 Well, they have classes now where people are grounding, where they go outside and they take their shoes off and walk around and lay on the ground.

00:24:31.000 They're paying money to hug a cow. 0.99

00:24:35.000 Legitimate tree hugging, like real tree hugging.

00:24:38.000 It used to be a term that we'd use to people to make fun of them, but now it's legitimate.

00:24:44.000 People are hugging trees to try to get better.

00:24:46.000 Grounding is like the principles of grounding.

00:24:50.000 The idea is that there's some sort of a connection that you get from Mother Earth that the only way you get it is to be bare skin touching the grass and the soil and that there's actually a benefit to that.

00:25:01.000 No, they're mainly talking about the electrical positive charge getting neutralized.

00:25:06.000 That is true.

00:25:08.000 It is true?

00:25:08.000 It is true, but it's not the most important aspect.

00:25:12.000 The more important aspect is the microbial life in your body and the microbial life in the soil are cousins.

00:25:20.000 They need to meet.

00:25:21.000 They need reunions often.

00:25:24.000 If that doesn't happen, you're living like a lab rat all the time washing yourself up with all kinds of things that nothing can be on your hands, nothing can be on your feet.

00:25:34.000 So, there is no connection with the source.

00:25:36.000 In that, the body suffers.

00:25:39.000 And today, there is substantial scientific data to show how, you know, micronutrients or lack of micronutrients and mental illnesses are very directly connected.

00:25:52.000 Yes.

00:25:52.000 Today, the WHO is predicting a mental illness pandemic.

00:25:57.000 See, what this means is, we said a coronavirus pandemic.

00:26:01.000 What this means is, if you are in this room, three people, All three of us are susceptible.

00:26:07.000 We may get it.

00:26:08.000 All right?

00:26:10.000 Now, mental illness pandemic means just that. 0.61

00:26:13.000 Any one of us can go lose it right now.

00:26:16.000 Well, we're going there.

00:26:18.000 I mean, in 2020, in Japan, more people committed suicide than they died of coronavirus.

00:26:26.000 How's that?

00:26:27.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:26:28.000 So, in a country where it's affluent, they're not dying for economic reasons, obviously.

00:26:34.000 Not because of poverty, not because of hunger, no.

00:26:37.000 Just they're not able to handle their own minds.

00:26:40.000 One important aspect, it's not the only aspect, but one important aspect is lack of micronutrients that's directly connected to the type of soil that we're working upon right now and where we grow food.

00:26:52.000 When we say where we grow fruit, seventy-one percent of the world's soil or world's land is under cultivation in the world.

00:27:01.000 So, why I'm focusing on agricultural soil?

00:27:05.000 People ask, why not… what rainforest?

00:27:08.000 Why not the ocean?

00:27:09.000 Yes, all those things need to be taken care of.

00:27:12.000 I hundred percent agree with that.

00:27:14.000 But agricultural soil is that place, agricultural land is that place, which is every day tended to by a human being.

00:27:23.000 A man or a woman is on the land tending to it.

00:27:27.000 The place that is being regularly tended to by a human being is in its worst possible condition.

00:27:33.000 Where there is no human footprint, everything seems to be fine.

00:27:38.000 Well, the problem is just this.

00:27:41.000 See, we are the most intelligent species on the planet or more intellectual species on the planet.

00:27:48.000 I would like to withdraw the intelligence aspect.

00:27:51.000 We are the most competent for sure in terms of ability to do things.

00:27:56.000 Right.

00:27:57.000 Our competence is increasing by the day.

00:28:00.000 What a thousand people or ten thousand people could not do a thousand years ago, today one man can do.

00:28:06.000 That is the level of competence because of technology, we have that.

00:28:11.000 With this level of competence and intellect, One important thing is we must be functioning consciously.

00:28:18.000 If we function unconsciously and compulsively, we become a destructive force.

00:28:24.000 All this destruction has happened not because of some evil plan.

00:28:29.000 When you mentioned a company and said, is it them?

00:28:32.000 This is why I don't want this narrative to grow.

00:28:35.000 It has not happened because of some evil plan.

00:28:38.000 This has happened in search of human well-being.

00:28:41.000 In search of human well-being.

00:28:43.000 Yeah.

00:28:43.000 Human beings trying to be happy.

00:28:45.000 Human beings trying to live well.

00:28:47.000 That is why they turned the planet upside down, isn't it?

00:28:51.000 In some ways, but it's also profit.

00:28:54.000 Human beings trying to profit so they're doing things that aren't necessarily sustainable.

00:28:57.000 People want profit because that is the only way they can be well.

00:29:00.000 Those who are making losses, are they well?

00:29:02.000 Yeah, sort of.

00:29:04.000 But a lot of them, they're already well.

00:29:06.000 They're greedy.

00:29:07.000 They've gotten past the point of being well, and now they've gotten connected to the idea of accumulating vast sums of money.

00:29:15.000 No, that is being judgmental, calling somebody greedy.

00:29:19.000 Because, see, if I have one meal a day, which is my normal, I think I'm doing fine.

00:29:28.000 If somebody else has one meal a day, he thinks he's very poor, he wants two.

00:29:32.000 The guy who's having two thinks he's poor because somebody else is having three.

00:29:38.000 One who has a little home, he thinks he's poor because somebody has a big home like this.

00:29:43.000 So, what is greed and what is not greed?

00:29:45.000 Well, I'll tell you what greed is.

00:29:46.000 If you make choices where you know that the thing that you're doing, whether you're distributing a product Or whether you're causing an action that is going to be detrimental to human beings, but you cover up the data to hide the fact that it's going to be detrimental because you want to maximize your profit and you don't care about the negative impact it has on people because you're only thinking about money and you're already substantially wealthy.

00:30:14.000 That, by definition, is being greedy, right?

00:30:18.000 See, by definition it's like this.

00:30:22.000 Somebody is dreaming of a million dollars.

00:30:24.000 He thinks that is the ultimate goal in his life.

00:30:26.000 But a guy who has a million is wanting to be a billionaire.

00:30:30.000 One who is a billionaire, he looks at somebody who has hundred billion dollars.

00:30:34.000 He thinks at least that much he must have.

00:30:36.000 So I'm saying, instead of being judgmental about this, human well-being is sought from outside.

00:30:42.000 That is the whole problem.

00:30:44.000 See, human experience essentially happens from within.

00:30:48.000 Whether it's your joy or misery comes from within you, isn't it?

00:30:52.000 Maybe somebody or something can stimulate it from outside, but still it happens within you.

00:30:58.000 Joy and misery happens from within you.

00:31:01.000 Pain and pleasure happens from within you.

00:31:03.000 Agony and ecstasy happens from within you.

00:31:05.000 Every human experience happens from within you.

00:31:08.000 But in pursuit of happiness, we're turning the world upside down because this is the case of a You know, there was an old potato farmer.

00:31:19.000 One day he wanted to eat apples, so he went to an apple tree.

00:31:23.000 But by habit, he started digging for the apples till the tree came down on him because he's a potato farmer.

00:31:31.000 So right now, human beings have become like this.

00:31:35.000 They have gotten used to this, that they think by getting this, by getting that, by having one more thing and one more thing, they're going to be happy.

00:31:42.000 Yes.

00:31:43.000 But human experience happens from within.

00:31:46.000 If you take charge of your interiority, being peaceful and happy is a natural consequence of that.

00:31:51.000 But for convenience and comfort, we do things outside.

00:31:56.000 To create impact, we do things outside.

00:31:58.000 So this experience of if human beings were naturally joyful by their own nature, they would only do what is needed, nothing more, nothing less.

00:32:07.000 But right now, they're in pursuit of happiness.

00:32:10.000 You can't stop them.

00:32:13.000 Yeah, they are in pursuit of happiness, but they're also, again, in pursuit of profit because it's a number-based system, so it becomes like a game, and you get connected to corporations.

00:32:22.000 When you're in a corporation, there's a diffusion of responsibility because you don't think about your own involvement and what the corporation is doing.

00:32:30.000 You think about your role, what you do as a job, and then you try to maximize profit, and it's a game that people get wrapped up in.

00:32:38.000 Yeah, but that is… It doesn't make them happy.

00:32:40.000 You're absolutely correct.

00:32:41.000 No, no.

00:32:41.000 It's in pursuit of happiness, but… Well, it's in pursuit of success.

00:32:45.000 See, most human beings cannot be happy if they're not successful, isn't it?

00:32:50.000 There's a lot of that, yes.

00:32:52.000 And then they get medicated to help them get happy.

00:32:55.000 That's a lot of people.

00:32:56.000 I mean, what percentage of people are not following by the principles that you're espousing, which are very natural and very healthy?

00:33:03.000 And they instead follow this corporate structure, the corporate guidelines.

00:33:07.000 They follow that path, and they're not happy.

00:33:10.000 So what do they do?

00:33:10.000 They medicate themselves.

00:33:12.000 No, today we have come to this place where if you want to be peaceful, you need a chemical.

00:33:19.000 You want to be joyful, you need a chemical.

00:33:21.000 You want to be healthful, you need a chemical.

00:33:24.000 Well, you want to be ecstatic, of course there is a chemical.

00:33:27.000 Right.

00:33:28.000 So, what is the consequence of this?

00:33:30.000 Why this is happening?

00:33:32.000 One thing is in this generation, one thing that's happened in people's minds is the heaven has collapsed in people's minds.

00:33:40.000 The heaven?

00:33:40.000 Yes.

00:33:41.000 How so?

00:33:42.000 See, I've been talking to people.

00:33:44.000 Fifty years ago, if I spoke to people and I asked how many of you want to go to heaven, almost eighty percent would raise their hands.

00:33:53.000 Today, you go to your university and ask them, how many of you want to go to heaven?

00:33:57.000 They'll say, hehehehe. 0.99

00:33:59.000 They think it's a ridiculous question. 0.98

00:34:01.000 All right? 0.97

00:34:02.000 Nobody will raise their hand.

00:34:04.000 So, in their minds, heaven has collapsed.

00:34:06.000 There's no place to go.

00:34:07.000 So, they want to do everything here.

00:34:09.000 All right?

00:34:10.000 I see.

00:34:10.000 So, they have not found how to be joyful and ecstatic within themselves.

00:34:16.000 So, chemical usage, initially it became alcohol, then it became chemicals, it's getting stronger and stronger.

00:34:23.000 And, you know, so many people dying of those things every...

00:34:28.000 every day and illnesses, and it's costing a nation and the world a lot.

00:34:33.000 It's not just in one country, it's...

00:34:35.000 it's going across the world.

00:34:37.000 Law enforcement agencies may be controlling it a little bit, but they can never control it totally because the consumption is mass-based.

00:34:45.000 It is more people maybe consuming these things than people eating bread.

00:34:50.000 It's becoming like that.

00:34:51.000 So, this whole movement, where it's going means if you do not raise human consciousness, if you do not teach people how to sit here feeling absolutely blissed out within yourself by your own nature because This human mechanism is the most sophisticated chemical factory.

00:35:10.000 If you are a good CEO, you would produce the chemicals that will give you fantastic experience.

00:35:18.000 If you're a lousy CEO, you're giving yourself a bad experience.

00:35:22.000 Now, you're buying chemicals from outside to fix that, all right?

00:35:26.000 So essentially, you're a bad manager of your own system.

00:35:29.000 You're not taken charge of this.

00:35:31.000 Why has that happened?

00:35:32.000 Because your education, your society is talking about conquering the world, but never taught you anything about how to take charge of this.

00:35:40.000 Do you agree with me?

00:35:41.000 Yes.

00:35:41.000 The most… in this room, there's so much technology here.

00:35:46.000 In this room, the most complex and sophisticated technology is within your system.

00:35:51.000 Yes or no?

00:35:52.000 Human system.

00:35:53.000 Yes.

00:35:54.000 This is.

00:35:54.000 Have you read the user's manual?

00:35:56.000 There's no user's manual.

00:35:58.000 There is.

00:35:59.000 There is?

00:35:59.000 Yes.

00:36:00.000 Where is it at?

00:36:00.000 It's built into the machine.

00:36:01.000 Oh, how do I get it?

00:36:03.000 You need to pay attention.

00:36:04.000 You're reading Inner Engineering.

00:36:05.000 Read that carefully.

00:36:07.000 I'm reading it.

00:36:08.000 I'm in the middle.

00:36:09.000 I'm at part two.

00:36:10.000 There are pointers as to how to read your own Use this manual.

00:36:15.000 Yes.

00:36:16.000 Let me take you back to this concept of heaven.

00:36:18.000 You know, when you're talking about people in universities that you say, how many of them want to go to heaven?

00:36:23.000 The problem is they don't have any evidence of heaven.

00:36:26.000 And so when a lot of these young people that are atheists or agnostics, they don't want to buy into anything that they believe is connected to fairy tales or they're connected to Some sort of an ideology they believe was manufactured to control people and to keep people...

00:36:43.000 That's what I said.

00:36:43.000 Heaven has collapsed in their minds.

00:36:45.000 In their minds.

00:36:46.000 But it's also because heaven is connected to religion and religion is connected to atrocities.

00:36:52.000 There's a lot of people that think of religion, they think of the evils of the Catholic Church or they think of You know, what religion has justified, the horrors of history, the things that people have done in the name of religion.

00:37:05.000 So a lot of younger, sophisticated, intelligent people don't want to believe in anything that there's no evidence for.

00:37:13.000 So when you say, how many of you want to go to heaven, say, show me a video.

00:37:17.000 Tell me where I'm going.

00:37:18.000 You have a map of heaven?

00:37:19.000 I'm not asking that question, offering a ticket.

00:37:22.000 I'm just telling you, heaven has collapsed in people's mind, which is a good thing, because...

00:37:27.000 It's a good thing?

00:37:28.000 It is, because...

00:37:31.000 Because the idea that this is not the place to live well, there is another place where you will live well is a wrong idea.

00:37:39.000 Right.

00:37:40.000 This is the place to live well.

00:37:42.000 You could have heaven right here.

00:37:43.000 Yes.

00:37:44.000 And who told you you're not already in heaven and making a mess out of it?

00:37:49.000 No one.

00:37:50.000 I think that's possible.

00:37:52.000 We are in a heaven making a mess out of it.

00:37:54.000 So right now, whether we want to fix the soil or we want to fix the human mind, we're only trying to see that you don't mess up the heaven in which we have landed.

00:38:04.000 Yes.

00:38:04.000 I could agree with that.

00:38:06.000 I think the problem is the term heaven.

00:38:08.000 When you say it, people think of a biblical heaven.

00:38:11.000 They think of a place that you go...

00:38:12.000 No, no.

00:38:13.000 Every religion has their own kind of heaven.

00:38:15.000 That's the whole thing.

00:38:16.000 I'm saying before Bible came, there have been heavens in other places.

00:38:19.000 Yes, yes.

00:38:20.000 You know one thing I found really interesting...

00:38:22.000 This is one thing good about this soil is...

00:38:24.000 See, people may even have separate heavens to go to, but we all come from the same soil.

00:38:29.000 Our bodies go back to the same soil.

00:38:31.000 So this is a unifying factor, irrespective of one's religion, caste, creed, whatever else.

00:38:36.000 So in your mind, this concept of heaven relates to like a harmony amongst yourself and the people, the living things around you, including the soil.

00:38:45.000 See, essentially it's like this.

00:38:47.000 If you feel pleasant in your body, we call this health.

00:38:53.000 Yes.

00:38:54.000 If you feel very pleasant in your body, we call this pleasure.

00:39:00.000 If you feel pleasant in your mind, we call this peace.

00:39:03.000 If you feel very pleasant, we call this joy.

00:39:07.000 If you feel very pleasant… if you feel pleasant in your emotion, we call this love.

00:39:13.000 If you feel very pleasant, we call it compassion.

00:39:18.000 If you feel very pleasant in your very life energies, then we call this blissfulness.

00:39:23.000 If you become very, very pleasant, then we call it ecstasy.

00:39:28.000 If your surroundings become pleasant, we call it success.

00:39:33.000 So, to create pleasantness in the surroundings, we need the cooperation of people and forces around us.

00:39:41.000 Without everybody's cooperation, you can't create a pleasant atmosphere.

00:39:45.000 But pleasantness of the body, pleasantness of the mind, pleasantness of emotion and energy is one hundred percent your business, isn't it?

00:39:54.000 So, if you're feeling ecstatic, You are in heaven because your idea of heaven is a very pleasant place, isn't it?

00:40:03.000 Yes.

00:40:04.000 This planet Earth is very pleasant except for the human beings who are creating unpleasantness among each other.

00:40:10.000 Well, this sounds like a great concept, but human beings are very complex.

00:40:14.000 Their emotions are complex, their needs and desires and their trauma and pain and insecurities.

00:40:20.000 And all mental health issues.

00:40:22.000 How does one get to that spot?

00:40:24.000 Like, what you're saying sounds wonderful.

00:40:26.000 I mean, you're a guru.

00:40:27.000 You're a literal guru.

00:40:28.000 So when you sit here and tell people these things, they go, well, that sounds easy for that guy.

00:40:32.000 And look at him.

00:40:33.000 He's wise and enlightened.

00:40:35.000 He's not easy or difficult.

00:40:35.000 You got a great beard.

00:40:37.000 It is not easy or difficult.

00:40:39.000 It's not?

00:40:39.000 It is a question of wrong direction or right direction.

00:40:43.000 That is, you went to an apple tree and you're digging the roots because you're a potato farmer.

00:40:47.000 That is the only problem you have.

00:40:50.000 You are the source and seat of your experiences within you.

00:40:54.000 What happens within you?

00:40:56.000 Should it happen your way or my way?

00:40:58.000 Tell me.

00:40:58.000 Your way or my way?

00:41:00.000 No.

00:41:00.000 What happens within you?

00:41:01.000 Should it happen your way or my way?

00:41:05.000 Well, it's within me.

00:41:07.000 When you say within me, do you mean my thoughts?

00:41:09.000 Do you mean my overall experience?

00:41:10.000 Your thought, your emotion, your body, whatever, your chemistry, your energy, everything.

00:41:14.000 What happens within you?

00:41:16.000 Should it happen your way or somebody else's way? 0.97

00:41:19.000 Well, I think if your way sucks, maybe you should listen to other people and maybe try their way. 0.89

00:41:26.000 See, if it happened your way, would you keep yourself blissful or miserable? 0.98

00:41:30.000 You would keep yourself blissful if you were wise, if you were wise and your mind was working properly, but if you have mental health issues, if you're filled with trauma, if you're poorly educated, you're starting from a deficit, a severe deficit where you don't think correctly.

00:41:46.000 No?

00:41:46.000 No.

00:41:47.000 That is not the problem.

00:41:49.000 The original problem, the root of the problem is this.

00:41:52.000 Let's address one step at a time.

00:41:56.000 See, right now, the simple question is, what happens in your mind, your emotion, your chemistry, your energies must be your way, isn't it?

00:42:04.000 Well, it's yours, yes.

00:42:05.000 It is yours, so it must be your way.

00:42:07.000 But it's not happening your way right now because it's in a compulsive reactive state.

00:42:12.000 OK. So, anybody can cause anything within you.

00:42:17.000 So, if I decide what clothes you must wear, what food you must eat, what you should do every day, you will call this slavery, isn't it?

00:42:25.000 Or the government.

00:42:27.000 Don't go there.

00:42:30.000 So, right now, someone else, something else can decide what happens within you.

00:42:37.000 Isn't this the most horrible form of slavery?

00:42:39.000 That someone can decide whether you're happy or unhappy.

00:42:42.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:42:43.000 That's not good.

00:42:44.000 That's not the best path.

00:42:45.000 So the problem is just this.

00:42:46.000 An intelligence which needs to be conscious is unfortunately unconscious and compulsive.

00:42:53.000 So the only problem that you have is compulsive reaction to life around you.

00:42:59.000 What is needed is a conscious response to life.

00:43:01.000 So this simple thing people have not handled from their childhood.

00:43:06.000 Right.

00:43:06.000 So when you don't handle this one thing, everything will be wrong.

00:43:10.000 Everything will be accidental.

00:43:11.000 Your success and failure, both are accidental.

00:43:14.000 So what do you say to someone, maybe they're 30 years old, and they've had this life of mistakes and regret and maybe alcoholism or gambling or some other problems, but they want to be conscious.

00:43:28.000 They want to be blissful.

00:43:30.000 They want to be enlightened.

00:43:31.000 They want to be a happy person, filled with love.

00:43:35.000 What path do they take?

00:43:36.000 What steps do they take to correct the journey they're on?

00:43:41.000 Why is it, though human beings are not the strongest creatures on the planet compared to other species, why is it the human beings are dominating this world?

00:43:53.000 Simply because of our ability to use tools, isn't it?

00:43:57.000 And our intellect, our ability to manipulate our environment.

00:44:00.000 Yes, but even then, if we didn't have knowledge of using tools, the buffaloes would have mowed us down, all right.

00:44:08.000 Yes.

00:44:09.000 So, your intellect, they don't care.

00:44:11.000 It's your ability to use tools.

00:44:13.000 You made an arrow, you made a gun, you made so many things.

00:44:17.000 You made a house.

00:44:18.000 Yes.

00:44:20.000 Everything, all instruments.

00:44:21.000 Right now, microphone or telephone or whatever else, these are all instruments to enhance.

00:44:26.000 We are this much, because of our instruments, we become that much.

00:44:29.000 Right now, there is one little screw here in this furniture.

00:44:33.000 I will ask you, you're a strong guy.

00:44:35.000 I will ask you to unscrew this with your hands.

00:44:38.000 Can't do it.

00:44:38.000 You do it.

00:44:39.000 You may lose all your nails.

00:44:40.000 I'll allow you to use your teeth.

00:44:42.000 Maybe you lose some of them.

00:44:43.000 It's going to be a problem.

00:44:44.000 But it'll be right there.

00:44:45.000 But if I give you a screwdriver, boom.

00:44:48.000 I can do it easy.

00:44:49.000 In a minute, you'll get it out.

00:44:50.000 So this is the power of the tool.

00:44:52.000 So as there are tools for doing things in the external world, there are tools to handle this.

00:44:58.000 Because you don't have a toolkit, This machine, which is the most complex machine, is going crazy.

00:45:04.000 Right now, you're reading in engineering, it's a toolkit.

00:45:07.000 You just use the tools.

00:45:09.000 Don't worry about the philosophy, don't worry about belief system, don't worry about your concept, somebody's concepts, your beliefs, somebody's beliefs.

00:45:17.000 Just use the necessary tools.

00:45:19.000 Being peaceful, joyful, loving is a natural outcome of that.

00:45:23.000 Okay, well, what are those tools?

00:45:25.000 Like the scenario that I laid out.

00:45:27.000 You have a person who's 30 years old.

00:45:29.000 They have a history of trauma in their life.

00:45:32.000 They're very unhappy, very depressed.

00:45:34.000 Maybe they're alcoholics.

00:45:35.000 They're trying to get their life in order.

00:45:38.000 Today, I want you to understand this.

00:45:40.000 The Yisha Foundation and this inter-engineering process that we are doing around the world, in 2021, I think, I think it's 2021, Our video views are 2.2 billion.

00:45:54.000 2.2 billion video views?

00:45:56.000 Yes.

00:45:56.000 That's a lot.

00:45:57.000 Yes.

00:45:58.000 Why?

00:45:59.000 Because it's worked.

00:46:01.000 Because of what?

00:46:03.000 It has worked, I'm saying for people.

00:46:04.000 It's worked?

00:46:05.000 Yeah.

00:46:05.000 We have over 16 million volunteers working with the foundation.

00:46:10.000 Why are they doing this?

00:46:12.000 Because the only reason is it has worked.

00:46:14.000 What is it that's worked?

00:46:15.000 I did not teach them a morality.

00:46:17.000 I did not teach them a philosophy.

00:46:19.000 I did not promise them miracles.

00:46:21.000 I did not pull gold chains out of thin air and give it to them.

00:46:25.000 No, nothing.

00:46:26.000 Simply tools to fix themselves.

00:46:29.000 Just how to sit, how to breathe, how to manage yourself.

00:46:33.000 This is all.

00:46:33.000 Yes.

00:46:34.000 But you're entertaining.

00:46:36.000 That's also one of the reasons why you have that many views.

00:46:38.000 How many views do we have?

00:46:40.000 If you're a guest.

00:46:42.000 Pull your mic down so we can hear you.

00:46:43.000 On YouTube, I guess?

00:46:45.000 Yeah, let's just go with YouTube.

00:46:47.000 No, no, it's okay.

00:46:48.000 That's not the point.

00:46:49.000 How many views?

00:46:53.000 I don't know.

00:46:54.000 Say four billion.

00:46:55.000 It's okay.

00:46:55.000 I don't know.

00:46:56.000 Probably about the same.

00:46:57.000 Sounds about right. 1.00

00:46:57.000 Yeah, and we're not teaching you shit. 1.00

00:47:02.000 No, that's not true. 0.99

00:47:03.000 Other people are, that are on here.

00:47:04.000 But I see what you're saying, that it works.

00:47:08.000 But what I'm saying is, what are those tools?

00:47:11.000 This is all very mystical and difficult for people to grasp.

00:47:16.000 There are mystical aspects also, but that is not for everybody.

00:47:21.000 Only for those who are interested in those things, who want to pursue that aspect.

00:47:26.000 For the rest of the people, for somebody, if their backache goes away, his life changes.

00:47:32.000 For somebody, if his headache goes away, his life changes.

00:47:34.000 Somebody drops his alcohol consumption, addiction, his life changes.

00:47:39.000 Somebody, some compulsive thought that maybe drives him crazy, that goes away.

00:47:42.000 These are simple things.

00:47:44.000 This is just a small screwdriver is all he needs.

00:47:46.000 He doesn't need a total overhaul.

00:47:49.000 Mysticism is a different aspect.

00:47:50.000 It is like you're not just interested in living well.

00:47:54.000 You want to know the very root of life.

00:47:56.000 Yes.

00:47:56.000 That's a different aspect.

00:47:57.000 That's not for everybody.

00:47:58.000 That is only for those who seek that.

00:48:00.000 But for common people, all they want to do is they want to live peacefully, joyfully, with some sense of purpose to whatever they're doing in their lives.

00:48:08.000 For this, it's very simple.

00:48:10.000 You're talking about a case of a 30-year-old person who has this problem, this problem, this problem.

00:48:16.000 I have millions of them with me.

00:48:19.000 30, 40, 60, all kinds, from 16 to any age, all right?

00:48:24.000 So if it did not work, they wouldn't be working for the foundation.

00:48:28.000 We are a volunteer organization with 5,600 full-time volunteers and over 16 million part-time volunteers.

00:48:37.000 Everything is done by volunteers.

00:48:38.000 Well, obviously, you're doing something, right?

00:48:40.000 It's working.

00:48:41.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:48:42.000 So what is it?

00:48:45.000 See, people don't know how to sit.

00:48:48.000 People don't know how to eat, what to eat, when to eat.

00:48:52.000 They don't know.

00:48:53.000 They're just eating like instinctively.

00:48:56.000 See, instinctive existence would be fine if you had the intelligence of an animal.

00:49:02.000 With this level of intelligence, if you function instinctively, you will be destructive to yourself and to everybody around you.

00:49:09.000 That's what is happening in the world.

00:49:10.000 Instinctively is fine if you have an animal.

00:49:12.000 Well, listen, I have an animal.

00:49:13.000 If I left a lot of food around, he would just eat himself to death.

00:49:17.000 Oh, animals?

00:49:18.000 Yeah.

00:49:18.000 They won't do that.

00:49:19.000 My dog would.

00:49:21.000 See, dog has become like you.

00:49:23.000 Inspired by you.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, that's a problem.

00:49:26.000 Wild animal.

00:49:27.000 Wild animal will eat what it wants and then it'll move on. 0.99

00:49:30.000 That's true.

00:49:31.000 That's true.

00:49:31.000 Yeah, humans have really messed dogs up.

00:49:34.000 They've turned them into people.

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 Dogs are actually the human version of animals.

00:49:41.000 So when you say it works though, like for a person that is listening to this, that is seeking some sort of a path to a better life, what would you recommend they do first?

00:49:57.000 The simplest thing they need to understand is Human experience is caused from within, not from outside.

00:50:04.000 Right now, see, Somebody can abuse you, let's say.

00:50:11.000 They're just words.

00:50:12.000 Right now I'm going to abuse you in a language that you don't understand. 1.00

00:50:16.000 You know, India has 1300 languages I can choose.

00:50:19.000 1300?

00:50:20.000 Yeah.

00:50:20.000 Wow, I didn't know that.

00:50:22.000 So I'm going to use some Indian language and abuse you with a smile on my face. 1.00

00:50:26.000 You think I'm saying something very sweet to you. 0.97

00:50:29.000 Go ahead.

00:50:29.000 Yes.

00:50:30.000 So my abuse is not hurting you at all.

00:50:33.000 Right.

00:50:33.000 It's only your reaction which is going to hurt you.

00:50:36.000 Got it.

00:50:37.000 Right?

00:50:37.000 Yes.

00:50:37.000 So, in whichever language it is, whatever nonsense it is, it is only your reaction which hurts you, not my words ever.

00:50:46.000 But you think my words are hurting you, this you must change within you.

00:50:50.000 You need to understand it's your compulsive reaction to life which hurts you, not what other people are doing.

00:50:59.000 If somebody hurts you physically, that's a different matter.

00:51:01.000 It's a survival issue, you need to take care of that properly, okay?

00:51:05.000 Physical hurt is different.

00:51:06.000 Physical pain is actually very good for you.

00:51:09.000 Because if there… Physical pain is good for you?

00:51:11.000 Yes, I'll come.

00:51:12.000 If there was no physical pain, most people would not know how to survive.

00:51:17.000 Because they wouldn't know what not to do.

00:51:19.000 Yeah.

00:51:19.000 In the name of, see, even though there is so much pain, see how tattooed people are, how poked up they are all over.

00:51:26.000 If there was no pain, yeah, they've got all kinds of holes all over the place, all right?

00:51:30.000 It hurts, I'm saying.

00:51:31.000 I'm not commenting on their fashion.

00:51:33.000 I'm saying it hurts.

00:51:35.000 But in spite of that they're doing, if there was no pain at all, They would have pulled out their intestines and walk on the street like a handbag, all right?

00:51:44.000 Probably.

00:51:45.000 Yes.

00:51:46.000 If there was no pain, people would not even know how to survive.

00:51:49.000 So in that sense, pain is good for them.

00:51:52.000 It prevents them from doing something absolutely destructive towards themselves.

00:51:57.000 So physical pain is a survival mechanism.

00:51:59.000 That's a different aspect.

00:52:01.000 But rest of the pain is caused in their own mind.

00:52:05.000 I can cause physical pain to you, but can I cause mental pain to you?

00:52:12.000 You can initiate something that might make me react.

00:52:15.000 No, I will do nonsense, all right?

00:52:16.000 I will do total nonsense.

00:52:18.000 But it's you who causes that pain within yourself by reacting in a certain way.

00:52:22.000 So if I initiate things in a language that you don't understand, You're just fine.

00:52:28.000 It doesn't work.

00:52:29.000 So it is not my words or my actions which are causing pain to you.

00:52:34.000 It's your compulsive reaction which is causing that.

00:52:38.000 This is a beautiful concept, but for a lot of people, they develop these patterns of behavior and thinking that are very difficult to break.

00:52:46.000 So how does one come up with the practices that would allow them to consistently and continually understand this and apply this to their life?

00:52:56.000 See, the patterns are formed not only in the psychological structure.

00:53:01.000 The patterns are formed in the chemical structure of the body.

00:53:04.000 The patterns are formed in the energy structures of the body.

00:53:07.000 The patterns are formed in the karmic structures of one's system.

00:53:11.000 So, the memory patterns establish themselves in every way and make you that kind of person, all right?

00:53:18.000 But that that kind of person you are is something that you created unconsciously.

00:53:24.000 If you can create something unconsciously, you can also create the same thing consciously, isn't it?

00:53:31.000 So you can fix the same thing consciously, you mean?

00:53:34.000 No, I'm saying if you create one kind of persona unconsciously, you can also create another kind of persona consciously, isn't it?

00:53:44.000 Yes, you can make a conscious choice to create a healthy persona.

00:53:47.000 So right now, because the patterns are so well established, it's like a rut in the street, a road, all right?

00:53:53.000 If there is a deep rut in the road, even if you steer it this way, it drags you that way.

00:53:57.000 So, that is what is happening in people because they have formed patterns, strong patterns.

00:54:03.000 Even if they once in a way think, oh, I must give up the drink, they come off for two days and again they slip back into the same thing because there is a chemical pattern, there is a karmic pattern, there is a psychological pattern, there is a compulsiveness built into the body itself, the whole system.

00:54:18.000 So, that is working that way.

00:54:20.000 There are various tools and technologies as to how to break these patterns.

00:54:25.000 But they must be willing to subject themselves.

00:54:28.000 You can't force them to do it.

00:54:29.000 It is not something by force.

00:54:31.000 It can only be done when somebody is willing, when they have a genuine desire.

00:54:35.000 Then there are tools.

00:54:37.000 If you don't have the desire, even if I give you the screwdriver, you'll turn it the wrong way and tighten it further, I'm saying.

00:54:44.000 Right.

00:54:44.000 I see what you're saying.

00:54:48.000 What actions should someone take besides recognizing that the way they react to things is a conscious choice?

00:54:56.000 That they choose to either be upset or not be upset or to react to these external...

00:55:02.000 No, don't go there.

00:55:03.000 See, upset, not upset, that is not the point.

00:55:06.000 Are you a conscious response?

00:55:10.000 Or are you an unconscious compulsive reaction?

00:55:14.000 This is the only thing.

00:55:16.000 Reaction or response?

00:55:18.000 Response means, right now I say something that you may not like.

00:55:24.000 Now you can respond the way you want.

00:55:27.000 Not because of what I said.

00:55:29.000 You continue to say what you want.

00:55:31.000 This is your response.

00:55:32.000 You don't have to react.

00:55:34.000 If you react, in some way unknowingly, you'll become enslaved to me.

00:55:38.000 Isn't it?

00:55:41.000 That's what a lot of people love to do, right?

00:55:42.000 That's why they start fights.

00:55:44.000 They're always reacting.

00:55:45.000 Yes.

00:55:46.000 They think reacting is the way to live.

00:55:49.000 Well, if you react, you'll become somebody's slave.

00:55:52.000 I must...

00:55:52.000 I must tell you this.

00:55:53.000 On a certain day, a yogi was coming this way, coming to Joe Rogan's show.

00:55:59.000 On the way, somebody stopped him on the street and abused him in every possible way.

00:56:05.000 He listened to everything carefully, not ignoring them, listening to very alert, listening to every word of abuse.

00:56:13.000 Then he looked at the time and he said, see, I have a show, I need to go.

00:56:18.000 I'll finish that and come back.

00:56:20.000 If you have something more to say, you can tell me then.

00:56:23.000 Now these guys don't know what to do with him.

00:56:27.000 If these are that kind of people, they will say hundred things.

00:56:31.000 If you say one thing, they will… next thing is they'll beat you.

00:56:35.000 But now if you say a hundred things, he says, I'll come back for more.

00:56:38.000 You don't know what to do with him.

00:56:39.000 Why he is like this is, he's decided that he is the master of his destiny.

00:56:46.000 No matter who does what, he will go where he wants to go, intelligent man or no?

00:56:53.000 A man who goes where he wants to go, no matter what anybody else is doing to him, that is a smart man, isn't it?

00:57:01.000 It's definitely a better choice than just being a reactionary.

00:57:04.000 If you're a reaction, you'll go away their way.

00:57:06.000 Somebody will take you their way.

00:57:08.000 Somebody will take you this way.

00:57:09.000 Somebody will take you that way.

00:57:10.000 Such a person will ever achieve anything that they wish to in their life.

00:57:15.000 They might get lucky.

00:57:18.000 See, those who achieve things by luck always live with the fear of losing it.

00:57:23.000 Yes.

00:57:24.000 They panic, right?

00:57:25.000 And they're always worried, and they get greedy.

00:57:28.000 Because they're scared.

00:57:29.000 Yes.

00:57:30.000 This came by chance and it may go away by chance.

00:57:32.000 Yeah, they have famine mentality.

00:57:34.000 If you have done it by knowing what you're doing, if you lose everything today, you can create it again.

00:57:39.000 Yes.

00:57:39.000 Because you know the mechanics of how to do.

00:57:41.000 Right.

00:57:42.000 And likely you won't lose it.

00:57:44.000 You won't lose it.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:45.000 So what should a person do?

00:57:48.000 Should they start taking yoga?

00:57:51.000 Should they start thinking a certain way every day about their life and the way they're responding to things and whether or not they're reacting or being conscious?

00:58:00.000 Is that guy falling off the sky or is he doing yoga in your studio?

00:58:03.000 He's getting abducted by a UFO. That's a flying saucer.

00:58:08.000 I get you.

00:58:09.000 What do you think about flying saucers?

00:58:10.000 What do you think about like...

00:58:11.000 We'll come.

00:58:11.000 Let's do yoga first.

00:58:13.000 Okay.

00:58:15.000 So...

00:58:16.000 We'll get to that?

00:58:18.000 We'll get to that.

00:58:19.000 Okay.

00:58:20.000 So right now we're trying to fix the soil.

00:58:23.000 Then we'll go to another place.

00:58:24.000 Let's go with yoga first.

00:58:26.000 So, the word yoga in United States, it scares me.

00:58:31.000 Because here, yoga means you must look like a leftover noodle twisted out like this, like that.

00:58:38.000 Right.

00:58:39.000 The word yoga means union.

00:58:41.000 Union.

00:58:41.000 Union means, right now, we were talking about the soil.

00:58:46.000 As you sit here, you're just an outcrop of soil.

00:58:51.000 You may not realize this because you're sitting on a chair, you're wearing shoes, and because you can prance around.

00:58:56.000 But if you were made like a tree, you would clearly understand you are part of the soil, isn't it?

00:59:02.000 Yes.

00:59:03.000 Or most people will understand when you bury them.

00:59:07.000 Then they know they are part of the soil.

00:59:10.000 Otherwise, they just don't know that they are part of the soil.

00:59:13.000 They think they came from somewhere.

00:59:14.000 A lot of people started talking.

00:59:15.000 I'm… From some other planet, this talk is also going on.

00:59:20.000 But essentially, you're part of this, but you're not experiencing it that way.

00:59:26.000 This is not only true with soil, this is true with the entire creation, with the cosmos itself.

00:59:32.000 Today, modern science has come to this, that as you sit here, every subatomic particle in your body is actually in communication with everything else.

00:59:40.000 Is this an image of cosmos that you have?

00:59:43.000 Sort of.

00:59:44.000 It's just random stars, and occasionally you'll see a shooting star.

00:59:48.000 So, this is a part of everything.

00:59:52.000 Yes.

00:59:53.000 If you don't want to go that far, at least this is a part of the planet.

00:59:56.000 There's no question about that.

00:59:57.000 That's very clear.

00:59:59.000 But such an experience is not there.

01:00:03.000 If… can I tell you my… how this happened to me?

01:00:06.000 Yes.

01:00:08.000 So, when I was four, five years of age, I suddenly realized I don't know anything.

01:00:16.000 I don't know anything means I don't know anything at all.

01:00:20.000 If I look at a glass of water, I don't know what this is.

01:00:25.000 I know I can drink it.

01:00:26.000 I know in how many ways I can use it, but I don't know what it is.

01:00:34.000 Even today, with so much scientific exploration, we still do not know one atom in its entirety.

01:00:42.000 We know how to use it, we know how to break it, we know how to fuse it, we know how to make a bomb out of it, but we don't know what it is.

01:00:50.000 Even today, we don't know what it is.

01:00:52.000 So, if I found a leaf, I'm just staring at it for five, six hours at a stretch.

01:00:58.000 If I sit up in the bed, I'm just staring at the darkness for the whole night.

01:01:02.000 My dear father, being a physician, started thinking I need some psychiatric evaluation.

01:01:08.000 He started saying, this boy is staring at something all the time, it looks like he's lost it.

01:01:14.000 My problem is, I'm looking at this, I still don't know what this is, I'm not able to shift my attention to anything else.

01:01:22.000 In this condition, they sent me to school.

01:01:26.000 My mother said, don't look here and there, pay attention to the teacher. 0.61

01:01:30.000 So I went and paid attention to the teacher, the kind of attention they would have never received in their entire life.

01:01:37.000 I'm paying absolute attention to the teacher.

01:01:40.000 Initially, I kind of understood what they were trying to say.

01:01:44.000 But after some time, I realized that they're just making noises.

01:01:48.000 I'm making up the meanings in my mind.

01:01:50.000 Even now it is so, isn't it?

01:01:53.000 Language is a conspiracy between two people.

01:01:55.000 The moment I talk another language, I'm just making sounds as far as you're concerned.

01:02:01.000 So, when I just heard, they're just making sounds, I'm the one who's making up the meanings.

01:02:06.000 I stopped making meanings.

01:02:08.000 Hour after hour, teacher after teacher, they come and make noises and noises and noises and go.

01:02:13.000 It became so amusing to me, a big smile spread on my face.

01:02:18.000 They were not amused at all.

01:02:22.000 You were five when this was happening?

01:02:24.000 Yeah.

01:02:25.000 They sent me to school when I was three and a half.

01:02:27.000 Did this accelerate over time?

01:02:29.000 Did it start off slowly and… Yes.

01:02:32.000 The thing is, I don't know one thing from the other.

01:02:35.000 I look at the sky, Tremendous things.

01:02:37.000 I look at a tree, I see every leaf and it drives me crazy.

01:02:41.000 I can't figure out where this coming from, what's happening.

01:02:44.000 Endless amount of things.

01:02:45.000 If I look at a pebble, I'll keep on looking at it for hours because I don't know what it is.

01:02:51.000 Because there is so much to it.

01:02:53.000 If you take an atom, you can spend a lifetime looking at it still not knowing what it is.

01:02:58.000 That's the nature of the creation, all right?

01:03:00.000 It's that complex.

01:03:02.000 So, my schooling went on like this and I slowly started going there only when it was absolutely necessary, otherwise I had my own excursions going.

01:03:14.000 So, about eleven, twelve years ago, this school where I studied over fifty years ago, they come to me and say, Sadhguru, you must come.

01:03:22.000 It is our hundred and twenty-fifth anniversary of the school.

01:03:26.000 You must come and speak.

01:03:27.000 I said, see, why me?

01:03:29.000 Because I was not just a not good student.

01:03:32.000 I was not even a student.

01:03:33.000 I was barely there.

01:03:35.000 Why… why are you asking me to come?

01:03:36.000 I'm not a good example for any of your students.

01:03:39.000 They said, no, our school has produced ministers, our school has produced cricketing stars, sports stars, film stars.

01:03:47.000 You are the only mystic, so you must come.

01:03:50.000 So, I went.

01:03:51.000 I went and stood up to speak in the same quadrangle, the oppressive buildings around me.

01:03:57.000 And I looked at this classroom and I suddenly remembered and I narrated this to them.

01:04:02.000 See, I was around twelve years of age.

01:04:07.000 And one teacher came and those days, because I don't know anything, what's there to talk?

01:04:12.000 For days on end, I don't utter a word.

01:04:14.000 I just go to the sports field, I play intensely, any game that is there.

01:04:19.000 And classroom, home, I don't say a thing because I don't know anything.

01:04:26.000 So, what is there to say?

01:04:29.000 So, this teacher is asking me some question.

01:04:32.000 I'm looking at him.

01:04:34.000 I know his past, present and future sitting there, but I don't know what he's talking about.

01:04:39.000 Initially, I hear the words, after some time, I'm just seeing him like a blob of energy, like that.

01:04:44.000 And I know that guy through and through, but I don't know what he's talking.

01:04:48.000 About thirty-five, forty minutes, he tried to get an answer from me.

01:04:52.000 I didn't say nothing.

01:04:54.000 So, he came, held me by the shoulder, shook me violently like this and said, you must be either the divine or the devil.

01:05:02.000 I think you're the later.

01:05:05.000 See, till then my problem was I didn't know what is this, what is that, what is that, what is that.

01:05:11.000 But it was clear this is me.

01:05:13.000 Suddenly this guy confused me about this also.

01:05:16.000 I looked at myself, what is this?

01:05:18.000 Is this divine devil? 0.98

01:05:19.000 What the hell is this?

01:05:20.000 This question had never come to me till I was twelve.

01:05:23.000 I had a question about everything in the universe.

01:05:26.000 But this was clear, this was me.

01:05:28.000 Suddenly this guy confused me about this also.

01:05:31.000 Then I tried to stare at myself, it didn't work.

01:05:33.000 I started closing my eyes.

01:05:35.000 And initially it started with minutes, it went into hours, it went into days.

01:05:39.000 Sometimes I just closed my eyes and sat for days on end.

01:05:43.000 This changed the whole experience of my life.

01:05:45.000 When I was twenty-five, I just burst into an experience where Suddenly, every cell in my body was dripping ecstasy like that.

01:05:54.000 Suddenly?

01:05:55.000 Yeah, I was sitting on a rock and just I burst out like this.

01:06:00.000 For the first time in my life, adult life, tears were coming.

01:06:04.000 Tears and me were impossible.

01:06:05.000 I lived like that.

01:06:08.000 So, I was just wondering what's happening when I… I thought it's 10-15 minutes.

01:06:12.000 When I came out, it was four and a half hours.

01:06:14.000 My shirt was wet with tears.

01:06:16.000 I thought, what's happening to me?

01:06:18.000 Am I going off the rocker or something?

01:06:19.000 That's the only thing my skeptical mind could tell me because I was a super skeptic about everything in the universe.

01:06:25.000 I had a question about everything, about the family structure, about the society, about religion, about politics, about economics, about everything.

01:06:34.000 So, what do you think was happening?

01:06:36.000 I'll tell you.

01:06:37.000 Then I talked to my closest friends.

01:06:39.000 Hey, something is happening to me.

01:06:41.000 I'm just blissed out.

01:06:43.000 You know, if I just talk to them, tears are coming to me.

01:06:45.000 I said, what's happening to you, man?

01:06:47.000 What did you drink?

01:06:48.000 What did you pop?

01:06:49.000 This is a question.

01:06:51.000 Then I knew there was no context to my experience.

01:06:54.000 So, I spent… started spending more and more time by myself.

01:06:57.000 And I realized, if I just take my hands off my mind completely, Then I see that every cell in my body just bursts out with blissfulness.

01:07:10.000 Then I established this properly within myself, how to do that?

01:07:14.000 Then I sat down and made a plan.

01:07:16.000 At that time, the world's population was 5.6 billion people.

01:07:20.000 I made a plan.

01:07:22.000 In two and a half years' time, I will make the whole world ecstatic.

01:07:27.000 Here I am 40 years later.

01:07:32.000 It took me time to realize people are so deeply invested in their miseries that even if you offer them the best thing, they will go round and round and round around that not getting the point because they're too deeply invested in something.

01:07:46.000 They don't realize as you sit here and through your misery or joy, life is slipping away.

01:07:55.000 Every heartbeat is life going away, isn't it?

01:07:59.000 It's not the clock ticking.

01:08:00.000 It is life ticking away.

01:08:02.000 As we sit here, moment by moment, we're getting closer to our grave.

01:08:06.000 People don't understand they're mortal.

01:08:09.000 This is the biggest problem.

01:08:10.000 On a daily basis, they're not conscious.

01:08:12.000 That as I sit here, my time is running out.

01:08:15.000 I need to make the best out of this.

01:08:17.000 If I'm conscious that I'm mortal, if I know my time is running out, I would keep myself in the best possible way.

01:08:23.000 I wouldn't have time to quarrel with somebody.

01:08:26.000 I wouldn't have time to do nasty things to somebody or to myself.

01:08:30.000 I would do the best to myself unnaturally.

01:08:32.000 When you're feeling wonderful, you do wonderful things to everybody around you.

01:08:36.000 A happy person, a very joyful person is naturally a pleasant person to everybody.

01:08:41.000 When you're feeling nasty, you will share it with people, of course, the same nastiness.

01:08:45.000 So, this process I decided we must somehow share this with people.

01:08:50.000 So, I started building devices.

01:08:52.000 I was practicing yoga since I was 12 years of age, a simple form of yoga.

01:08:57.000 That also I got in for all the wrong reasons.

01:09:00.000 All the wrong reasons?

01:09:01.000 Yeah, in the sense, I was around 11, 12 years of age.

01:09:05.000 This was my...

01:09:05.000 The story about the well.

01:09:07.000 Yeah, you know the story.

01:09:09.000 So I got in for the wrong reason, thinking I'll become a superhuman like him, but it is something else to me.

01:09:15.000 Tell the story to people so they hear it.

01:09:18.000 You know, this is an ancestral home where we are about thirty-five, thirty-six of cousin brothers and sisters who live in different cities.

01:09:27.000 We all come and converge in our ancestral home for the summer vacation, usually thirty to forty-five days, max.

01:09:36.000 So, it's one rollicking place, all the kids totally out of control and doing all kinds of things.

01:09:40.000 The young boys, one of the things is there's a drinking water well in the backyard, which is about eight… eight feet in diameter, about hundred and fifty feet in depth.

01:09:50.000 In summer months when we go there, it's at least sixty, seventy feet below the ground level, the water.

01:09:55.000 So, we jump into this well, you have to go straight.

01:09:58.000 If you go this way, Your brain will become a smear on the wall, actually.

01:10:03.000 You have to go straight.

01:10:04.000 Did that ever happen?

01:10:06.000 It's happened to other people, not to me.

01:10:08.000 My brains are still here.

01:10:09.000 You, yeah.

01:10:11.000 But you know...

01:10:12.000 No, not in our house it didn't happen.

01:10:14.000 It happened to other boys.

01:10:18.000 And when you want to come up, there is no step, anything, you just have to hold the rock and come up.

01:10:23.000 You know, you're just about one centimeter, half an inch is what you have in the rock grip.

01:10:28.000 Your entire weight is on these four fingers.

01:10:30.000 So, your nails will start bleeding out of sheer pressure.

01:10:34.000 So, I could come up pretty well.

01:10:37.000 I was coming up very well out of that.

01:10:39.000 So, I'm very proud and I can do it better than people.

01:10:43.000 So, one day we are doing this act and a man who is over seventy years of age was watching us.

01:10:49.000 Without a word, he just walked and jumped into the well.

01:10:52.000 I thought the old guy is finished.

01:10:55.000 But he came up faster than me.

01:10:57.000 I didn't like it.

01:10:58.000 I said, how?

01:11:00.000 He said, come and do yoga. 0.50

01:11:02.000 So, I followed him like a puppy.

01:11:04.000 So I got into yoga for all the wrong reasons.

01:11:07.000 I'm saying this because even for wrong reasons, if you do the right things, right things will happen to you.

01:11:12.000 This is a beauty about this world.

01:11:14.000 So this was, how old were we at the time?

01:11:18.000 Twelve.

01:11:18.000 So this was along the same time that you were having these realizations about the nature of things.

01:11:25.000 It was, they all sort of came together, like it's a very fortuitous When I look back, it's all like a set plan, all right?

01:11:36.000 At that time, it was all wonderful accidents happening.

01:11:39.000 Yes.

01:11:41.000 That's a thing that happens though sometimes, right?

01:11:43.000 When you're on the right path, like wonderful accidents do sort of seem to happen.

01:11:48.000 See, the thing is just this.

01:11:53.000 If you're designed to fly, if something is designed to fly, If the stronger the wind is, the higher it flies, you know?

01:12:03.000 I'm a licensed helicopter pilot.

01:12:06.000 Oh, really?

01:12:06.000 Yeah.

01:12:07.000 Everybody thinks winds are a bad thing.

01:12:09.000 No, winds are great.

01:12:09.000 Only when you're landing, if it's crosswind, it's a little bit of a issue.

01:12:12.000 Otherwise, Without headwind, you can't really fly, all right?

01:12:17.000 Too much.

01:12:18.000 A storm is a different thing.

01:12:19.000 But headwinds are good, that's why the airplane flies, all right?

01:12:24.000 It's because of that there is aerodynamics and it flies.

01:12:27.000 So, if you're designed to fly, this is what is important.

01:12:31.000 What yoga means is, you get yourself geometrically correct.

01:12:35.000 What being geometrically correct means is, see, every physical creation in the universe has a geometry to it.

01:12:43.000 If the geometry is in such a way that it has least amount of friction, then it functions at its best.

01:12:51.000 When would you say, suppose you start your car engine and he said, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, would you say this is well-engineered car?

01:12:58.000 You start it, you don't even know, you can't feel the engine.

01:13:01.000 Then you said, this is a good car because it's… only unless you make it roar, you can't feel the engine.

01:13:08.000 That means everything is going smoothly with least amount of friction.

01:13:11.000 So, it is a geometric perfection which does this.

01:13:15.000 So, everything that is physical in the universe needs a certain perfection of geometry to function at a certain level of competence.

01:13:24.000 So this geometry, today there is something called as constructional theory they're making it, yogic sciences are deeply invested in this.

01:13:32.000 That is, how an atom is made, how an amoeba is made, a single-celled organism is made, how you are made, how the universe is made, the fundamental design is not different.

01:13:44.000 It's the same design.

01:13:46.000 The complexity and sophistication is multiplying many, many fold, but essentially it's the same design.

01:13:53.000 So, this is what today we're calling as the carbon chain on this planet.

01:13:57.000 Whether it's a microorganism or a tree or the atmosphere or the water or a human being, everything is one chain.

01:14:05.000 If you break one link, everything could collapse on your head, you know?

01:14:08.000 That's what we're talking about when we talk about soil.

01:14:10.000 One link has become very weak.

01:14:12.000 If you don't strengthen that, the entire chain could collapse.

01:14:17.000 Because a chain is as strong as a individual link, and this one link of the soil has become super thin.

01:14:24.000 If you push it any further, the whole thing, the very chain of life could collapse.

01:14:29.000 So, it is the geometry which keeps it going.

01:14:32.000 For example, this planet is going around the sun.

01:14:34.000 There is no titanium...

01:14:36.000 titanium chain or a cable holding it to the sun and swinging it around.

01:14:40.000 It's just the perfection of geometry.

01:14:42.000 If you just get it off, Its path finished, it'll fly off somewhere else, it'll burn itself out.

01:14:48.000 Only because of certain geometry, it has hit a certain geometry, they're all They look like perpetual machines, they're not perpetual.

01:14:57.000 In our experience, they're perpetual because our lifespan is so small.

01:15:01.000 But otherwise, it's not perpetual.

01:15:02.000 At one time, it was not there.

01:15:04.000 At some time in future, it will not be there again.

01:15:07.000 That's a different matter.

01:15:08.000 But right now, it has hit a certain geometric perfection that it keeps going as if it's forever.

01:15:15.000 So, yoga, one aspect of yoga is this, to get your body to a geometrically congruent state with the rest of the creation.

01:15:25.000 If you're geometrically congruent, suddenly your experience is not that of an individual, but that of being universal.

01:15:32.000 So, to put it very, very simply, it's like this.

01:15:36.000 See, we can do an experiment, can we?

01:15:39.000 Sure.

01:15:40.000 Just put your hands together.

01:15:42.000 With your eyes closed, what you do is you rub your hands very briskly for thirty seconds.

01:15:57.000 Now hold it three, four inches away from each other.

01:16:07.000 Something happening between them, huh?

01:16:10.000 Is it?

01:16:11.000 Don't you feel something?

01:16:13.000 I feel the heat of each hand.

01:16:14.000 Not the heat.

01:16:15.000 Because they're warm from friction.

01:16:16.000 No.

01:16:17.000 Isn't there a sensation between them?

01:16:19.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 So right now, see right now, what is the difference between you and the chair on which you're sitting?

01:16:27.000 It's only the sensations which tells you, how do you know this is me, this is not me?

01:16:33.000 Right.

01:16:33.000 Here there are sensations, here no sensations.

01:16:36.000 Right.

01:16:36.000 So essentially what you call as myself is a certain boundary of sensations.

01:16:42.000 It's a sensory boundary which determines what is you and what is not you, isn't it?

01:16:47.000 Yes.

01:16:47.000 This water, is it you?

01:16:49.000 It'll become me when I drink it.

01:16:51.000 If you put it into the boundaries of your sensation, it becomes you.

01:16:54.000 Yes.

01:16:54.000 And that's how this whole thing has come, right?

01:16:57.000 When you were born, you were this much.

01:16:59.000 Now you become this much.

01:17:00.000 It's the food that you've eaten, water that you took and everything into the boundaries of your sensation.

01:17:06.000 Now you experience it as myself, 100%.

01:17:08.000 Right.

01:17:09.000 So if you lose 10 kilograms… Would you think that 10 kilograms of me is gone?

01:17:16.000 No, isn't it?

01:17:18.000 Well, you would if you look in the mirror.

01:17:20.000 No, no.

01:17:21.000 In your experience.

01:17:23.000 Your experience is exactly the same.

01:17:25.000 Exactly the same.

01:17:26.000 Except maybe you feel healthier.

01:17:26.000 Because what is within the boundaries of your sensation is you.

01:17:31.000 Right.

01:17:31.000 If you do anything vigorous or intense, Suddenly, the boundaries of your sensation is breached and you experience something more.

01:17:39.000 Why there is such a big draw towards sexuality or people are rubbing each other all the time is just this… Rubbing each other?

01:17:46.000 Yeah, in a way.

01:17:47.000 I'm saying it is because somewhere for one moment, they are something more than what they are.

01:17:55.000 Somebody or something which is not themselves becomes a part of them at least for a moment.

01:18:00.000 Yes.

01:18:02.000 So, this breaching of sensory boundary is yoga.

01:18:08.000 If you sit here and if you can spread your sensory body as big as this room, you would experience everything in this room as yourself.

01:18:18.000 See, right now, your heart, your liver, your kidney, the five fingers of your hand, this was not you some time ago, isn't it?

01:18:28.000 When you are a baby, your finger was this much.

01:18:31.000 Now it became this much.

01:18:33.000 That means these fingers, the way they are, they were not you just some time ago.

01:18:37.000 But today, they're hundred percent you, isn't it?

01:18:40.000 How did this happen?

01:18:41.000 Because this material got accumulated within the sens… boundaries of your sensory body.

01:18:47.000 Sensory body, if you make yourself exuberant, either because of joy or blissfulness, sensory body expands.

01:18:55.000 If you expand your body in such a way, it's as because the universe, you will experience the whole universe as yourself.

01:19:01.000 This is yoga.

01:19:03.000 So, the twisting, turning, holding the breath, doing this, doing that, all these things are to loosen up the body in such a way that your physical body and your sensory body are not stuck to each other.

01:19:18.000 Sensory body can expand.

01:19:19.000 Today, you know, if somebody lost a limb or something, they have something called as a phantom leg.

01:19:24.000 Even if the leg is gone, they're still experiencing the leg because the sensory body is still not there.

01:19:29.000 So essentially, physical body is acting like a scaffolding for the sensory body which gives the experience of life.

01:19:36.000 If your sensory body was totally dead, you wouldn't experience anything even if you had your body, all right?

01:19:42.000 So if your sensory body expands, you'll experience this whole room or this building or this town as yourself.

01:19:49.000 So, this is what yoga means.

01:19:51.000 This is the purpose of yoga.

01:19:52.000 Because once you experience somebody or something as a part of yourself, nobody has to teach you any morality, be good, don't harm them, don't do this, don't do that.

01:20:03.000 These teachings will be irrelevant for you because anything that you… nobody ever thought you, this little finger, don't bite it off.

01:20:09.000 It is a poor little finger, nobody had to tell you this because it's you.

01:20:14.000 What you experience as myself, with that you have no conflict.

01:20:17.000 This is what yoga means.

01:20:19.000 The mechanism of getting there, there are various mechanisms.

01:20:23.000 There are actually 112 proper technologies as to how one can get into that space.

01:20:30.000 112?

01:20:31.000 Yes.

01:20:31.000 You talked about, in your book that I was reading, you talked about the different kinds of yoga and you told a very funny story about God getting them all together.

01:20:42.000 The four yogis.

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:45.000 Would you mind telling that?

01:20:47.000 What are the different types of yoga?

01:20:49.000 There's… See, you can do… employ your body and perform action and do yoga.

01:20:55.000 This is karma yoga.

01:20:56.000 Karma means action.

01:20:57.000 Using action to attain unity with the existence.

01:21:02.000 If you use your intelligence to get...

01:21:04.000 attain unity with the existence, then it is called as jnana yoga, yoga of intelligence.

01:21:10.000 If you use your emotion to get there, that is called as bhakti yoga, yoga of devotion or emotion.

01:21:17.000 And if you use your energies by refining and expanding your energies, if you do it, that is called as Kriya Yoga, the science and technology of expanding one's energies.

01:21:28.000 So, these are the only four ways you can do, because these are the only four things you have, rest is all imagination.

01:21:34.000 You have a body, you have a mind, you have emotions, and you have energies, life energies within you.

01:21:40.000 Beyond this, rest is all made up in terms of your beliefs and imaginations.

01:21:45.000 These are the four realities.

01:21:46.000 You can only work with what you have, you cannot work with what you don't have.

01:21:51.000 So these four things, is there anybody who is only body No mind, no emotion, no energy, or only mind, not the other three.

01:22:00.000 All of us are a combination of the four.

01:22:02.000 It's just that in one person the body may be dominant, in another person the mind may be dominant, in another person emotion like this.

01:22:09.000 Different combinations of the same four ingredients are there in different human beings and different persons.

01:22:15.000 So accordingly, yoga has to be mixed.

01:22:18.000 This is why the significance in the Eastern cultures of having a live guru who's looking at you and making the right concoction.

01:22:25.000 Let's say you came to me when you were twenty, naturally your body would be very dominant.

01:22:30.000 We would give you one type of yoga.

01:22:33.000 Now you returned when you're forty.

01:22:35.000 Now maybe your mind is more dominant, maybe your emotion is more dominant, maybe energy is more dominant, body could have receded a little bit.

01:22:43.000 So accordingly, it has to be mixed.

01:22:45.000 So it is not like a common prescription, everybody do this, everybody do this is not going to work.

01:22:51.000 It needs to be mixed the right way, otherwise it won't work.

01:22:54.000 This is one reason a whole lot of people on the spiritual path feel.

01:22:58.000 First three months, they seem to be going somewhere, after that they're stagnant because nobody to...

01:23:04.000 Gauge that and, you know, tweak that thing according to their needs.

01:23:08.000 So they need a guru.

01:23:10.000 They need someone to...

01:23:11.000 See, the word guru is a four-letter word today in America.

01:23:15.000 Yeah, because there's a lot of fake ones, right?

01:23:16.000 That's why I'm a Sadhguru.

01:23:19.000 It has eight alphabits.

01:23:21.000 Will you tell a story about God getting all the different types of yogis together?

01:23:27.000 Okay.

01:23:29.000 So, this is on a certain day, four yogis are walking in the forest.

01:23:36.000 One is a Gnana yogi, yoga of intelligence.

01:23:39.000 Another is a Karma yogi, body yoga.

01:23:41.000 Another is a Bhakti yogi, emotional and devotional yogi.

01:23:46.000 Another is a Kriya yogi, master of energies.

01:23:50.000 So suddenly a storm picks up and they start running to find a shelter.

01:23:56.000 The Bhakti yogi who has, you know, who knows the geography of temples in the area, he says, let's go in this direction, there's an ancient temple there.

01:24:04.000 So they all ran there.

01:24:06.000 Then they found an ancient temple where the walls had collapsed long time ago, just the roof and in the center there's a deity.

01:24:12.000 They all rushed into the temple, not out of love for the deity or God, but just to escape the storm.

01:24:20.000 Then the storm started lashing from every direction.

01:24:23.000 So they got closer, closer, there was no other place to sit.

01:24:26.000 So they all four of them hugged the deity and sat down.

01:24:29.000 Suddenly God appeared.

01:24:31.000 They all wondered, why now?

01:24:33.000 We did so much yoga, you didn't come.

01:24:35.000 Now when we're just escaping the storm, you turn up.

01:24:38.000 So they looked at him, why now? 1.00

01:24:41.000 So God said, at last you four idiots got together. 1.00

01:24:45.000 I've been waiting for this for a long time. 1.00

01:24:47.000 Body going one direction, mind going another direction, emotion another way.

01:24:52.000 How will anything happen?

01:24:53.000 These four things have to come together.

01:24:56.000 This is very important.

01:24:57.000 But today, the way it is happening, the yoga, it's become very more… More like exercise.

01:25:07.000 If you want exercise, there are so many ways to do it.

01:25:10.000 Go have a swim, maybe play tennis, maybe climb a mountain, you'll get much better exercise.

01:25:18.000 Yoga is not for exercise.

01:25:20.000 It'll also give you that.

01:25:21.000 It'll give you fitness also.

01:25:22.000 There are different types of yogas.

01:25:24.000 For fitness, there are certain kind of yoga.

01:25:26.000 You must come, we can do this with you.

01:25:28.000 It's called Angamardana.

01:25:30.000 That means mastering your limbs.

01:25:32.000 Without any equipment, you can master your limbs in such a way that you become very resilient.

01:25:37.000 People are asking me, Sadhguru, you're sixty-five years of age, how will you do this thirty thousand kilometers on a lone motorcycle yourself, riding like this across twenty-six or twenty-seven countries?

01:25:48.000 I was just joking with them, and I said, see, this is an advertisement for a yogic back.

01:25:54.000 You will see, I will ride.

01:25:59.000 How did yoga get started?

01:26:03.000 What do you think was the origin of it?

01:26:05.000 Because it's an ancient form of, however you want to call it, an ancient practice.

01:26:14.000 And it's obviously very beneficial to so many people that practice it.

01:26:19.000 How did it get started?

01:26:21.000 See, there is nothing in the universe which is not yoga, in the sense.

01:26:27.000 There is nothing in the universe which is not one with everything else, except human mind.

01:26:35.000 This is what we're talking about soil also.

01:26:37.000 There is nothing on this planet which is unconnected.

01:26:40.000 There is nothing in this solar system unconnected.

01:26:43.000 There's nothing in this universe unconnected.

01:26:45.000 So, everything is in yoga.

01:26:48.000 The question is only whether you realize that or not.

01:26:50.000 If you realize that, if you experience that, then we call you a yogi.

01:26:55.000 A yogi means not somebody who is twisting and turning.

01:26:57.000 Yogi means one who is experiencing the union right now, that though you're an individual, your experience has gone beyond your individual nature.

01:27:07.000 You're experiencing the universality of your existence.

01:27:11.000 Your individual nature is a psychological condition.

01:27:16.000 See, physically, this is what we've been talking about, soil, nourishment, everything.

01:27:20.000 Physically, if people don't understand this, if you close these two holes, you know...

01:27:26.000 Your nose holes?

01:27:27.000 Yeah.

01:27:28.000 Keep your mouth also closed, close this and see.

01:27:31.000 If you're not connected with the oxygen bubble around you, you won't exist for two minutes.

01:27:37.000 So, where is your individuality, I'm saying, physically?

01:27:41.000 With food, water, with everything else, we can say it in so many different ways.

01:27:46.000 But physically, you know there is no individuality to your body.

01:27:51.000 Only psychologically, this individual nature, we have taken it too seriously, simply because it's the magnanimity of creation that… which has given us an individual experience.

01:28:03.000 Actually, in this cosmos, we are like a speck.

01:28:08.000 If you… if you look at the solar system itself from somewhere a million light years away, the solar system itself is a tiny speck.

01:28:18.000 In that planet, earth is a micro speck.

01:28:21.000 In that micro speck, Texas is a super micro speck.

01:28:25.000 In that, Austin is a super, super micro speck.

01:28:29.000 In that, you are a big man.

01:28:31.000 This is a serious problem.

01:28:33.000 Right.

01:28:34.000 You take yourself seriously when you're really connected to everything and you think of yourself as an individual when you're not.

01:28:40.000 You're really a part of everything.

01:28:42.000 Your individuality is just a psychological thing.

01:28:44.000 You want to see a funny meme that points to that?

01:28:47.000 Call up that Sam Tripoli meme.

01:28:49.000 Do you know what memes are?

01:28:52.000 I think so.

01:28:53.000 Yeah, they're funny things that people...

01:28:55.000 It's kind of a new form of comedy, but this one relates very closely to what you're saying, and it's this right here.

01:29:06.000 You are here, crying in the shower before work, pointing to the outer regions of the Milky Way galaxy.

01:29:17.000 Yep.

01:29:18.000 Funny, right?

01:29:19.000 So, this tiny micro, micro, super, micro spec.

01:29:22.000 Yes.

01:29:23.000 Thinks it's the center of the universe.

01:29:25.000 Right.

01:29:25.000 This is a serious issue.

01:29:27.000 It's a big problem for a lot of people.

01:29:29.000 And, you know, what's the function of that, though?

01:29:32.000 Like, why does the human animal think that way?

01:29:34.000 See, as I said, this is the magnanimity of creation.

01:29:38.000 Though you're a tiny speck, you have an individual experience.

01:29:41.000 This is the greatest gift that we have.

01:29:43.000 We can sit here, even wonder about the universe, not knowing where it begins, where it ends.

01:29:49.000 All right?

01:29:49.000 So, this is a tremendous gift that we have been given an individuality, but you're taking it too seriously.

01:29:56.000 For this, the only cure is that you're always conscious that you're mortal.

01:30:01.000 Your time, you're on a limited lease of time.

01:30:04.000 If you know this, you will not take your individuality seriously.

01:30:09.000 You will enjoy it the way it is.

01:30:12.000 The problem is our culture thrives on individuals taking themselves seriously.

01:30:19.000 This is why the most affluent country on the planet, look at the amount of miseries people are going through.

01:30:26.000 Yeah, there's a lot.

01:30:28.000 You know, I remember this.

01:30:30.000 I was in 98 for the first time when I came to United States.

01:30:36.000 I went there to the U.S. Embassy in Chennai to get my visa.

01:30:42.000 So, this is… you had to… at that time, you had to go at like 6.30 in the morning.

01:30:49.000 It would start at that time, seven o'clock, they will start seeing you.

01:30:53.000 I went there because, you know, the Consul General, a fine lady, she had heard about me.

01:30:59.000 So, instead of just doing at the counter, she asked me to come to her office.

01:31:04.000 So, I went there and there she asked me, see, you're going to United States, we've heard so much about you in India, but you know, if you want to teach in United States, you need a teacher, you know, yoga teacher certificate.

01:31:17.000 Are you certified?

01:31:18.000 I said if I had asked for a certification from my guru, you would have cut my throat.

01:31:22.000 So, I don't have a certificate.

01:31:26.000 I live yoga.

01:31:27.000 I don't… I don't… I'm not certified.

01:31:30.000 Then we had a long chat and then I was coming out by about maybe 7.45.

01:31:35.000 Then I see outside the US Embassy, at the… outside the compound, one young man, young boy, like maybe in his early twenties, sitting and crying bitterly, he's crying his heart out.

01:31:49.000 I couldn't ignore him.

01:31:51.000 You know, my car was already there and then I got off the car and went to him and I said, hey, what's the problem?

01:31:57.000 His visa got rejected. 0.97

01:32:01.000 The guy is so bitter, he could kill himself.

01:32:03.000 He's in that kind of condition. 0.83

01:32:05.000 I said, why man?

01:32:07.000 India is a big country.

01:32:08.000 Get lost here only, huh?

01:32:10.000 You will go to United States and get lost somehow.

01:32:12.000 You can also get lost in this country and try again if you want to go.

01:32:16.000 I'm not saying you should not go.

01:32:18.000 But okay, they didn't let you go, so what about it?

01:32:22.000 But that's not how it is.

01:32:23.000 People think going to United States is everything.

01:32:25.000 Ask the people who are living here how many complaints they have.

01:32:29.000 They are miserable because they are here.

01:32:31.000 Isn't that crazy? 0.99

01:32:33.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:32:34.000 Because human misery is not in India or America.

01:32:37.000 It is within you.

01:32:42.000 One of the things that struck me from your book was that you didn't read a lot of the writings on yoga until you were much older.

01:32:51.000 You were practicing yoga, but you hadn't read any of the ancient texts.

01:32:58.000 I have never read any ancient texts, not even now.

01:33:01.000 Really?

01:33:02.000 Yes.

01:33:02.000 You don't have any desire to find what they were thinking?

01:33:05.000 No, because my own clarity has never failed me.

01:33:08.000 I don't want to confuse myself because we don't know in these many thousands of years who all have added whatever nonsense they've added to it.

01:33:16.000 Right, that's a problem.

01:33:17.000 Like human beings.

01:33:18.000 Over a period of time, you know, every scripture has been meddled with by people.

01:33:23.000 But anyway...

01:33:25.000 All scriptures, it doesn't matter where they got the information from, how they received it, but written by human beings, all right?

01:33:33.000 Language is written by human beings, there's no question.

01:33:36.000 People may say, God dictated it to me, but still, even if I dictate something to you, you can still write it wrong.

01:33:42.000 Yes.

01:33:43.000 So, I'm saying, Those books I never read.

01:33:47.000 The only book I read is this.

01:33:49.000 Your body, your soul, your experience, you, whatever.

01:33:54.000 This mechanism, which is in my experience, because nothing else is in your experience.

01:34:00.000 Just see this.

01:34:01.000 You can't experience what's here.

01:34:03.000 You can only experience what is here.

01:34:05.000 Do you find that that's kind of contradictory in some ways to your existence because what you're doing is expressing your experience to other people?

01:34:16.000 No, no, no.

01:34:16.000 I'm not expressing...

01:34:17.000 You're not?

01:34:17.000 No.

01:34:18.000 I see some experience.

01:34:20.000 What is that?

01:34:20.000 Joe Rogan experience.

01:34:22.000 Oh, okay.

01:34:23.000 Yeah.

01:34:23.000 It's the name of the podcast.

01:34:25.000 Okay.

01:34:26.000 So, I'm never...

01:34:28.000 You know, here and there when people ask questions, I may say something.

01:34:32.000 But as I said, there's no philosophy, there is no teaching, there's no belief system, just methods.

01:34:38.000 You sit like this, you breathe like this, you do this, this and this, this will happen to you.

01:34:43.000 You experiment.

01:34:44.000 Forty days, you do it.

01:34:45.000 If it works, you keep it.

01:34:46.000 If it doesn't work, throw it and move on.

01:34:48.000 But do you see that you've written all this down for people to learn from?

01:34:53.000 No.

01:34:54.000 You haven't?

01:34:54.000 Why'd you write it down?

01:34:55.000 I have not written down anything.

01:34:57.000 You have books.

01:34:59.000 What is in the book is more like a brochure.

01:35:01.000 A brochure.

01:35:02.000 It's a 300-page brochure just introducing you.

01:35:06.000 We will never write down what you have to use.

01:35:10.000 That has to be transmitted.

01:35:11.000 Right, but you are writing your own personal experiences and people benefit from that greatly.

01:35:16.000 That is more for inspiration.

01:35:17.000 A book is for inspiration, not for instruction.

01:35:20.000 And you don't think that there's any inspiration to be gleaned from other people's experiences?

01:35:25.000 There is, of course.

01:35:27.000 See, if you're looking for inspiration is one thing.

01:35:30.000 If you're looking for instruction, don't look in the book.

01:35:34.000 No.

01:35:35.000 Inspiration is different to get you fired up.

01:35:38.000 Once you're fired up, you want to know.

01:35:40.000 Now don't go on reading books.

01:35:42.000 That'll not get you anywhere.

01:35:44.000 Action.

01:35:46.000 You have to start delve deeper into yourself.

01:35:50.000 For that, we can give you methods how to go deeper.

01:35:53.000 See, like we were talking about the screwdriver, how to do the thing, you know, with the right kind of tool.

01:36:01.000 If you use the wrong kind of tool, I give you a spanner for the screw, which is in the furniture.

01:36:06.000 It's not going to help.

01:36:07.000 It's a tool, but it's not going to help.

01:36:08.000 The right tool.

01:36:10.000 That's all.

01:36:11.000 That is all my work is, to give them the right tool.

01:36:14.000 I will not use the tool for them.

01:36:16.000 They must use it.

01:36:17.000 Only for a few who completely give themselves.

01:36:20.000 For them, I may also turn the screws for them.

01:36:23.000 But largely, we just give you the screwdriver.

01:36:26.000 It's up to you.

01:36:27.000 But even when you were younger, you didn't seek inspiration from some other people's experiences?

01:36:32.000 No, somehow it didn't work like that for me.

01:36:34.000 For me...

01:36:36.000 Everything was a question mark.

01:36:39.000 I'm saying, if I see a leaf, it's a question.

01:36:41.000 If I see… I look at my father, it's a question.

01:36:43.000 If I look at my mother, it's a question.

01:36:45.000 They were wonderful, loving parents, but I had questions about everything, nothing negative, just a question because question is a tool to dig deeper.

01:36:55.000 Question is not a way of insulting somebody.

01:36:57.000 I ask you a question, This is not to corner you, to insult you, to do something.

01:37:05.000 Question is the only way to dig deeper, isn't it?

01:37:08.000 Like, you know, like people have their experiences, their opinions about everything in the universe.

01:37:15.000 For example, before coming here, a whole lot of people calling him, Sadhguru, don't go on Joe Rogan's show.

01:37:21.000 Why are you going there, Sadhguru?

01:37:22.000 You know what he is.

01:37:24.000 I said, whatever he is, let me go and find out what the hell he is.

01:37:27.000 Why are you telling me who he is?

01:37:29.000 All right?

01:37:31.000 Well, no, no, he thinks this, he thinks that.

01:37:34.000 Well, if he thinks I'm a chimpanzee, I will prove I'm a very good one. 0.99

01:37:40.000 I'm saying I have worked in prisons, you know, like we have a program called Inner Freedom for Imprisoned.

01:37:47.000 Both in the United States we worked, but then we stepped out of U.S. In India, our programs are mandatory in all the South Indian prisons.

01:37:54.000 Really?

01:37:55.000 Yeah.

01:37:56.000 And I've worked with really hardcore, you know, criminals who have been convicted for murder and more.

01:38:05.000 They have done terrible things, but when they are with me, they are such wonderful guys, lively and fantastic guys.

01:38:12.000 But if you meet them when they are angry or dissatisfied, they may be terrible.

01:38:16.000 If you meet them when they are happy and joyful, they are fantastic people.

01:38:20.000 So, I'm saying every human being has opinions about everything.

01:38:25.000 This is one thing I've done in my life is people who are with me for twenty-five, thirty, forty years with me, right next to me, I've… it's very difficult for people to understand this.

01:38:35.000 I have not formed a single opinion about them.

01:38:38.000 Every day I look at them fresh.

01:38:41.000 This is very important, yes.

01:38:42.000 So when I sit here, I look at you fresh.

01:38:45.000 It doesn't matter what you have done.

01:38:47.000 Because what you are going to be tomorrow is what is important, isn't it?

01:38:51.000 When you're experiencing these prisoners, do you think that that's part of the problem with having had a horrible past, you know, having been a criminal, having been a murderer, is that you can never really get past those experiences in a lot of people's eyes.

01:39:08.000 They don't experience you fresh.

01:39:11.000 See, the societies are made in a certain way, where unfortunately certain people can't fit in, all right?

01:39:19.000 Not necessarily because it's a very American thing, this is a good guy, this is a bad guy.

01:39:24.000 I don't look at life like that.

01:39:26.000 It is just that in a given moment, if somebody makes one wrong judgment, he utters something or he does something in that moment, that may end up in the prison.

01:39:36.000 I've met hundreds of them, thousands of them.

01:39:39.000 Most of them are absolutely wonderful guys.

01:39:41.000 There are a few who are mentally, pathologically somewhere else.

01:39:44.000 That's different.

01:39:45.000 But rest of them… It's a given moment.

01:39:49.000 They make wrong judgments because that's all they know at that given moment.

01:39:52.000 Do you think that the practice of yoga can reform people?

01:39:56.000 Oh yes, of course.

01:39:57.000 I will tell you.

01:39:58.000 I will tell you this.

01:40:01.000 See, when I first went into the prison in Coimbatore to teach, don't mistake me.

01:40:10.000 And it was very difficult to get in.

01:40:12.000 I discovered that in the heart of Coimbatore City, there was a prison, central prison.

01:40:17.000 So, I said, let me go and see who is inside.

01:40:20.000 I want to work with them, about twenty-eight years ago.

01:40:23.000 And then I found it took me over two years to get inside.

01:40:26.000 It's so difficult to get in.

01:40:28.000 You need qualifications, you know.

01:40:30.000 I was not qualified.

01:40:32.000 It took all kinds of permissions to get inside because this was a high-security prison.

01:40:37.000 Then once I got in, everybody said, all the prison officers who knew me, they said, Sadhguru, you're wasting your time here.

01:40:43.000 Every Sunday, Christian priests come.

01:40:45.000 All these guys do is mischief.

01:40:47.000 On Hindu festivals, Hindu people come. 0.62

01:40:50.000 They do more mischief. 0.99

01:40:51.000 And Muslims come, more mischief. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Other kinds of service organizations come, more mischief is all you will get. 0.98

01:40:57.000 You'll just waste your time here.

01:40:59.000 Please don't do this.

01:41:00.000 I said, you just give me two hours.

01:41:04.000 So, there were twelve wards in the coimitor prison, each with about two hundred prisoners.

01:41:09.000 So, I took the long-term prisoners, one ward with two hundred people.

01:41:14.000 So, when I went there, I… they wanted to put them in the… see, normally prism is there, they push them into one hall and say, sit down here.

01:41:22.000 So, the Guru has come.

01:41:23.000 I said, no, just… I want to meet them on the ground outside.

01:41:26.000 So, they are all sitting there like this.

01:41:29.000 Okay, the bohus, this guy was come. 0.99

01:41:31.000 You know, they have a certain… there's an anger and angst against the society which has locked them up.

01:41:38.000 It's very difficult for people to understand what this is.

01:41:41.000 I've not… not once I've gone into prison and come out without tears in my eyes because everything seems normal on the surface.

01:41:49.000 There is pain in the air.

01:41:51.000 Just this is so important for a human being to be free, you know?

01:41:55.000 Yes.

01:41:56.000 Just nothing else.

01:41:57.000 Food is good.

01:41:58.000 They get food better than probably their homes.

01:42:01.000 Everything is controlled.

01:42:02.000 They're all very fit, actually much more fitter than the outside people.

01:42:06.000 But there is pain in the air.

01:42:09.000 Just it's so painful.

01:42:11.000 So, I went there and we played a game with them.

01:42:13.000 They were just surprised that I'm playing a game with them.

01:42:15.000 We played dodgeball with the guys.

01:42:17.000 Within about 10-15 minutes, they forgot they're in a prison like little children.

01:42:22.000 They're screaming and yelling and playing like crazy.

01:42:26.000 And then I told them, see, I want to stay here for 10 days and work with you.

01:42:30.000 You won't believe 80% of them in two hours' time, they're all crying.

01:42:33.000 They said, don't go, you stay with us.

01:42:35.000 And then we started the program.

01:42:37.000 Since then, continuously, last 27 years, programs have been going on.

01:42:42.000 Most of them are, you know, school dropouts.

01:42:44.000 They're not really very literate and educated.

01:42:47.000 But they wrote thousands of poems.

01:42:50.000 One… one guy who killed three people in the courtroom, so he was… In the courtroom?

01:42:56.000 In the courtroom, he killed three people.

01:42:59.000 Some vengeance issue, you know.

01:43:02.000 So, he's on the death row.

01:43:05.000 See, prison is quite a normal society during the daytime.

01:43:10.000 It's evening six o'clock.

01:43:12.000 They have to go inside and the doors are locked.

01:43:15.000 Even if the medical emergency, nobody can open those doors unless a magistrate gives permission.

01:43:20.000 The local officer cannot open the gate.

01:43:22.000 Even if the guy is dying inside, it cannot be opened, no matter what happens.

01:43:26.000 That's the law.

01:43:29.000 So, he wrote a poem which stuck in my mind.

01:43:32.000 He said, every day when the cell door closed, I thought this is my grave.

01:43:37.000 But now I see it's become my Bodhi tree. 0.81

01:43:40.000 And the gate… when the door closes, I close my eyes and I'm in a completely different space altogether.

01:43:46.000 This is my freedom.

01:43:48.000 And now after… after about six years, he was executed.

01:43:54.000 And we also took local industry and promised them that, you know, when they come out, there'll be jobs for them, those who can come out after a few years.

01:44:02.000 Because in India, life term is twenty years, not life-life.

01:44:07.000 And in twenty years, if there's good behavior, fourteen years they'll get a remission.

01:44:12.000 So, many of them who have been there for murder, in fourteen years' time they will come out.

01:44:17.000 So, nobody gives them a job.

01:44:19.000 Everywhere everybody looks at them suspiciously.

01:44:21.000 So, we set up the local businesses to include them into their factories and businesses so that they're not going to commit murder every day.

01:44:30.000 It's just happened once in their lifetime.

01:44:33.000 So, how does yoga reform these people?

01:44:37.000 This is all it is.

01:44:38.000 See, tell me, if you're feeling very happy right now, will you go and beat up that guy?

01:44:43.000 Jamie?

01:44:44.000 No.

01:44:44.000 Even if I was mad.

01:44:45.000 Even if he's somebody that you don't like.

01:44:47.000 I love Jamie.

01:44:48.000 No, it's not him.

01:44:49.000 Anybody.

01:44:50.000 Oh, anybody? 0.89

01:44:50.000 When you are joyful, will you go and simply beat up that guy? 0.89

01:44:53.000 No.

01:44:54.000 No.

01:44:54.000 Something nasty happening within you, anger, anger, frustration, something.

01:44:59.000 That's when you do ugly things, isn't it?

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 This is true for every human being.

01:45:03.000 Yeah, sure.

01:45:04.000 So you just label somebody as a criminal.

01:45:08.000 What you need to understand is there's a deep-rooted unhappiness or frustration or something that's built up because of social reasons or parental reasons or genetic reasons.

01:45:18.000 There's so many, okay?

01:45:19.000 Not one aspect.

01:45:20.000 Somewhere this life is unhappy, frustrated, angry.

01:45:26.000 Now it wants to do something unpleasant.

01:45:29.000 If this life is feeling very pleasant, why will it do unpleasant things?

01:45:33.000 So, this is all.

01:45:35.000 We have focused too much in this world on trying to produce good human beings.

01:45:42.000 Good human beings have caused terrible things.

01:45:46.000 People who think they are good, they have done the worst possible things.

01:45:50.000 Right.

01:45:50.000 There's a lot of that.

01:45:50.000 Thinking they are good.

01:45:52.000 But if we focus on creating joyful and sensible human beings, a whole lot of trouble will go away in the world.

01:46:00.000 This is what yoga is about, that you're pleasant within yourself.

01:46:04.000 When you are feeling pleasant, you do pleasant things naturally.

01:46:08.000 Yeah.

01:46:13.000 This environment where people learn to be pleasant or you help them cultivate that pleasantness.

01:46:21.000 It is not an environment.

01:46:21.000 It is you understand human experiences coming from within me.

01:46:26.000 See, right now, let's say we are working together and I'm oppressive, whatever, and you think you're unhappy because of me.

01:46:34.000 But if you realize, see, my unhappiness is my doing, you will undo it, isn't it?

01:46:41.000 You think your unhappiness is because of me.

01:46:43.000 It goes on and on because it's under my control now.

01:46:47.000 The day you realize my unhappiness, the source of my unhappiness, unhappiness is me, not somebody else, and you take charge of that aspect, there is a method to do that.

01:46:59.000 Once you do that, You're happy.

01:47:02.000 Once you're happy by your own nature, then you will do what is most needed.

01:47:07.000 Because once you're very happy, you have no pursuit of happiness.

01:47:13.000 Your life is an expression of joy, not in pursuit of happiness.

01:47:16.000 This is the shift that needs to happen in the world.

01:47:19.000 Right now, people are in pursuit of happiness.

01:47:21.000 If your life becomes an expression of your joy rather than being pursuit of happiness, you will start… stop squeezing the world the way you're squeezing it.

01:47:30.000 This soil, this environment, these problems, everything is in pursuit of human happiness and well-being.

01:47:37.000 Do you think that the physical practice of yoga, meaning the exercise aspect of it, alleviates tension and allows people to relax enough to look at their life in a different way?

01:47:52.000 If they do it properly, yes.

01:47:54.000 When I say properly, see people are trying to do it like an aerobic exercise.

01:48:00.000 No.

01:48:01.000 We teach what is called as classical yoga.

01:48:05.000 You don't have to do all these very difficult postures and all that.

01:48:08.000 Most yogis master only one posture.

01:48:11.000 People don't know this in this country.

01:48:12.000 One posture?

01:48:13.000 Only one.

01:48:13.000 Like what posture?

01:48:14.000 Anything.

01:48:15.000 They will choose one posture.

01:48:16.000 And they will just master that.

01:48:18.000 So actually, in the… you know, the traditionally, what yoga says is, if you master one posture, that means generally, Two hours, forty minutes.

01:48:28.000 If you can sit one way without any sense of discomfort, irritation, agitation, nothing in your system, this is your posture.

01:48:37.000 You just master that one posture.

01:48:39.000 Then the rest of the yoga is internal.

01:48:42.000 Physical body is only that much.

01:48:46.000 So, most yogis just have one thing that they do?

01:48:49.000 Yes.

01:48:49.000 And they can do it for hours?

01:48:51.000 Yes.

01:48:51.000 If you can sit here, see, what it means is, your body is not in the way.

01:48:58.000 Your body is not in the way.

01:49:00.000 Yeah.

01:49:00.000 See, right now, you want to be happy.

01:49:03.000 But your thought is in the way.

01:49:04.000 Your emotion is in the way.

01:49:06.000 Your body is in the way.

01:49:07.000 So, once you put the body away, you must understand, in yoga, there is no such thing as mind.

01:49:12.000 Right?

01:49:13.000 There is physical body, there is mental body.

01:49:17.000 If your body is not in the way, suddenly you discover that even your mind is not in the way.

01:49:24.000 How do you think they figured this out?

01:49:27.000 Getting back to this, you kind of went around that.

01:49:29.000 This happened over 15,000 years ago.

01:49:33.000 The first yogi, he's referred to as the Adi yogi.

01:49:36.000 Today, to honor him, we have set up a 112-feet-tall bust of Adi yogi in India.

01:49:42.000 You must look him up.

01:49:43.000 112-feet-tall bust?

01:49:44.000 Yeah, you can look him up, Adi yogi.

01:49:46.000 What part of India is that?

01:49:47.000 In southern India, in Coimbatore, in Tamil Nadu.

01:49:51.000 So, this is 112 feet because he gave 112 methods as to how.

01:49:58.000 So, this is what to say… 15,000 years ago we figured this out.

01:50:02.000 Over 15,000 years ago.

01:50:05.000 We are saying this over 15,000 years ago because they talked about certain celestial happenings.

01:50:11.000 Those happenings have been confirmed today as well over 15,000 years ago.

01:50:15.000 And we have iconographic proof of something like 12,400 years.

01:50:20.000 Yeah, that's Adi.

01:50:20.000 Whoa!

01:50:23.000 112 feet tall.

01:50:25.000 Great hair.

01:50:28.000 That's a crazy statue.

01:50:30.000 How old is that statue?

01:50:32.000 This was designed by me and built by all volunteers inside the center.

01:50:39.000 Really?

01:50:39.000 Yeah.

01:50:40.000 So is that a building?

01:50:41.000 So can you go inside of that?

01:50:43.000 You can go inside, but there's no building inside because it's metal.

01:50:46.000 It gets very hot inside.

01:50:47.000 Oh.

01:50:49.000 Wow, that's beautiful.

01:50:50.000 The idea was when I designed this, it took me two and a half years to design this face.

01:50:54.000 You're not seeing the face very clearly.

01:50:57.000 Let's see if you can get a picture where the face is clear.

01:50:59.000 It's very beautiful.

01:51:00.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 So I wanted intoxication, stillness, and exuberance on one face.

01:51:07.000 So it took me two and a half years to design this face.

01:51:10.000 What do you think?

01:51:10.000 It has these qualities?

01:51:12.000 I think you nailed it.

01:51:13.000 And how was this constructed?

01:51:16.000 This is all metal?

01:51:17.000 It's all metal.

01:51:18.000 How was it made?

01:51:19.000 So we made this, it took us some 680 tons of steel.

01:51:25.000 Now we're doing another one near Bangalore, the same one, but now we're doing it with almost 170 tons less because now we've figured out the design much better.

01:51:36.000 Wow.

01:51:37.000 Wow.

01:51:38.000 That's incredible, though.

01:51:39.000 I mean, it really is gorgeous.

01:51:41.000 And that's all, is it welded together?

01:51:44.000 Like, how is it?

01:51:45.000 See, you can see some patchwork here.

01:51:49.000 You're not seeing it.

01:51:50.000 But actually, the metal pieces are all about this much size.

01:51:54.000 We could have removed that.

01:51:56.000 We could have, you know, brazed that and removed that.

01:51:58.000 But when I looked at it, the roughness of it looked better than a smooth face, so I just left it as it is.

01:52:04.000 So there are patches.

01:52:05.000 So you can see the construction method when you're saying that.

01:52:07.000 You can see the construction material.

01:52:09.000 Not really that visible, but you can see for an observer, you can see that, which gives a kind of roughness to the statue, not very smooth.

01:52:17.000 So, this yogi that devised these 112… So, when he came, he appeared somewhere in Himalayas, and people saw that he was dancing wildly in ecstatic states, completely oblivious to everything around him,

01:52:32.000 or he sat still.

01:52:34.000 For days on end, weeks on end, he just sat still unmoving.

01:52:40.000 So, initially lot of thousands of people gathered some miracle is happening, but slowly because he didn't perform any miracles, no fireworks happened, people got bored and they left.

01:52:49.000 Only seven disciples hung on because they saw the greatest miracle is the man is not getting up for food, water, toilet, nothing.

01:53:00.000 That means he's beyond the physical nature.

01:53:02.000 He's just sat there for months on end sometimes.

01:53:05.000 The only sign of his aliveness was tears of ecstasy were dribbled… dribbling down his cheeks.

01:53:10.000 That was the only sign of life.

01:53:12.000 Otherwise, he looked like he's dead.

01:53:15.000 So, when he came to his… some moments when he came to his consciousness, they pleaded, they wanted to learn, what is it that is happening to you?

01:53:23.000 So, he tried to be dismissive, he didn't want to be in touch with them.

01:53:27.000 But when they hung on, when they persisted, then he put them on a preparatory kind of work.

01:53:33.000 They went through the preparatory work and then he started expounding for many years, what is the science of how human mechanism is made.

01:53:43.000 And you won't believe this.

01:53:45.000 Hundred and… hundred and fifty years ago, Charles Darwin talked about evolutionary process.

01:53:54.000 Over fifteen thousand years ago, he spoke something which is parallel to Darwin's theory of evolution.

01:54:00.000 Even today, every Indian knows about… Indian person knows about this. 0.98

01:54:04.000 There are ten avatars.

01:54:06.000 Avatar means not the movie that you saw.

01:54:09.000 Avatar means a manifestation.

01:54:11.000 So, ten avatars are, first avatar is called machya avatar, which means the life was in the form of fish or it was water, it was in the water.

01:54:20.000 The second one is Kurmaavatar, which means it's a turtle.

01:54:27.000 That means it became an amphibious life.

01:54:29.000 The third one is a wild boar.

01:54:32.000 It's called Varahavatar.

01:54:33.000 It… you know, other small things happened, but the mammals came.

01:54:37.000 Then the next one is called Narasimha, who is half man, half animal.

01:54:42.000 Next one is a doft man, Vamana Athar.

01:54:45.000 The next one is a full-grown man but a volatile man.

01:54:48.000 He's so angry and so crazy, a fighting man that always he went about chopping off people to he got so angry and he lopped off his own mother's head.

01:54:58.000 So the next one is a peaceful man, he's a Rama Athar, he's a peaceful, gentle man.

01:55:04.000 The next one is a loving man, Krishna avatar.

01:55:07.000 The next one is a Buddha avatar who is a meditative man.

01:55:10.000 The next one, the tenth one is supposed to be the mystical man.

01:55:13.000 These are not individual people to be seen.

01:55:16.000 These… this is the evolution of life on the planet.

01:55:19.000 If you look at Darwin's theory of evolution, somewhere it runs parallel to this, from waterborne life to amphibious life to this way, half man, half animal, dwarfed man, like this it has grown.

01:55:32.000 So, he talked about this and he said, see, if you want to evolve further, then something in relationship to the earth and the sun must change.

01:55:43.000 Otherwise, physiologically you're not going to evolve further.

01:55:46.000 But you have a consciousness with which you can transform yourself absolutely.

01:55:53.000 And become completely different from what you are right now.

01:55:56.000 Right now, you're available to all the forces of nature.

01:55:59.000 Right now, in many ways, you're enslaved to what's happening around you.

01:56:02.000 You can rise above this and evolve consciously.

01:56:06.000 But physiological evolution has come to a standstill because planetary moment and who you are right now, the planet and the solar system is functioning like a potter's wheel to make this happen.

01:56:19.000 This life… Like a potter's wheel, you know?

01:56:22.000 Potter's Wheel.

01:56:23.000 Oh, Potter's Wheel.

01:56:24.000 Yeah.

01:56:25.000 Okay.

01:56:25.000 It's functioning like that.

01:56:26.000 It's gotten you to this place.

01:56:28.000 So people ask, can we develop more intelligence?

01:56:32.000 Can we become bigger than this?

01:56:33.000 He says, no.

01:56:35.000 Physiologically, your evolution has come to a place.

01:56:38.000 Unless there is some serious change in the relationship between the planet, And the sun, that will not happen, but consciously you can evolve.

01:56:46.000 So then he propounds one hundred and twelve ways as to how you can do it.

01:56:51.000 Hundred and twelve distinct ways how you can do it.

01:56:55.000 So that is how yoga started.

01:56:58.000 Who do you think this person was?

01:57:01.000 He's Adiyogi.

01:57:02.000 They called him… because he never introduced himself, they called him yogi because he was the first one.

01:57:07.000 They called him Adiyogi.

01:57:08.000 Adiyogi means the first yogi.

01:57:11.000 And he's also referred to as Shiva.

01:57:14.000 Shiva means one who is not, that which is not, in the sense, see, today modern science is speaking in these terms.

01:57:23.000 In an atom, for example, over ninety-nine percent of it is empty space.

01:57:29.000 There is proton, neutron, electron, all that covers less than one percent.

01:57:34.000 Ninety-nine percent is empty space.

01:57:36.000 So it is in the cosmos.

01:57:38.000 Ninety-nine percent is empty space.

01:57:39.000 See, right now you look at this ceiling and you think it's full of star-like lights, but actually there's more empty space than lights, isn't it?

01:57:47.000 But because our visual apparatus are in a certain… certain way, designed in a certain way, it gives more prominence to light because that's what we see more clearly.

01:57:56.000 So, he said, everything is like this.

01:57:59.000 So, if you transcend your physical nature, you become a Shiva.

01:58:03.000 That means you are nothing.

01:58:05.000 But nothing is the most powerful dimension of the existence because it is in the lap of the nothingness, everything is happening.

01:58:13.000 What you call as everything is just one percent.

01:58:16.000 Do you think this was a real person, a real individual or do you think it's representative of the learning of yoga and the best way to establish it, to express it was to make it a person?

01:58:30.000 It's a real person because the places where he came, what he spoke, everything is recorded in history, largely by lore.

01:58:38.000 Today people are trying to write it down in books because in India we don't believe in scholarship.

01:58:45.000 We believe in experience, inner experience.

01:58:48.000 So it's always transmitted as a oral tradition for a long time.

01:58:51.000 These days people are writing down in many ways.

01:58:53.000 It was a real person because… Pretty spectacular human being if they could do all the things.

01:58:58.000 Absolutely.

01:58:58.000 See, when he came down south, in southern India at that time, people were way shorter than the northern people.

01:59:05.000 So, they say he was twice the height of an average South Indian woman.

01:59:10.000 So, they say he must have been… because an average South Indian woman, tribal woman were like four, four and a half feet, so he must have been seven or eight feet tall, that people said he was twice that.

01:59:23.000 And they say when he stood next to your horse, he was as tall as the horse's ears.

01:59:30.000 But do you think these are exaggerations?

01:59:34.000 Exaggerations could be there, but because his physical size doesn't mean anything for his yoga.

01:59:41.000 So there's no point exaggerating that aspect, I'm saying.

01:59:44.000 See, if he was a warrior, somebody may exaggerate him.

01:59:47.000 But for a yogi, what is the point making him a big guy, physically?

01:59:51.000 To make him divine, so physically unique.

01:59:54.000 No, that is the whole thing.

01:59:55.000 See, in India, The Indian culture has only spiritual paths. 1.00

02:00:02.000 There is no real religion per se, because a religion needs a belief, all right?

02:00:10.000 Spiritual process needs a quest, a seeking.

02:00:13.000 If you are on the spiritual path, we call you a seeker.

02:00:16.000 If you ascribe to religion, we call you a believer, all right?

02:00:21.000 Belief means something that you do not know.

02:00:24.000 Because an authority speaks, you believe that.

02:00:26.000 It could be your father who says that this is the truth and you believe him as a child, then it may be a priest, then it may be somebody bigger, or it may be in a book.

02:00:37.000 You believe it because it comes from an authority.

02:00:40.000 But the nature of that culture, the Eastern culture sees there is no authority for us. 1.00

02:00:45.000 Truth is the only authority.

02:00:47.000 Authority is never the truth.

02:00:50.000 So that is the essence of Eastern mysticism and Eastern spirituality, that it is… you're always a seeker, never a believer.

02:01:00.000 So you think that yoga just emanated from this one incredibly unique human being that was larger than everybody else that had supernatural abilities that existed 15,000 years ago?

02:01:13.000 No.

02:01:13.000 See, now you're making a superhuman being out of somebody.

02:01:16.000 By making an eight-foot tall person who can go for days on end without drinking water.

02:01:21.000 See, there have been people like that, all right, in every culture.

02:01:25.000 There have been physically large people.

02:01:27.000 But his physical size...

02:01:29.000 Has nothing to do with his capabilities.

02:01:32.000 Right, but the capabilities are super physical too, aren't they?

02:01:34.000 No.

02:01:35.000 See, this is what it's about.

02:01:37.000 Yoga is not about being superhuman.

02:01:39.000 Yoga is about realizing being human is super.

02:01:44.000 That's what is important.

02:01:45.000 So, that's the whole thing that he's saying.

02:01:48.000 How...

02:01:49.000 Being human is so super, if you explore your humanity to its fullest, you will become so fantastic.

02:01:56.000 Being a human being itself is a fantastic feat.

02:01:59.000 You don't have to act like a superhuman being.

02:02:01.000 He did not perform any miracles.

02:02:03.000 He did not do anything.

02:02:04.000 He just taught them how to be beyond the limitations of one's physical and psychological structures.

02:02:11.000 That's all.

02:02:12.000 Do you think if this person didn't exist that yoga still would have been invented without him?

02:02:16.000 Of course, somebody else would have.

02:02:19.000 After that, many, many yogis have come.

02:02:21.000 But he is the… maybe even before there were people, but they did not speak or they did not gather disciples who would take.

02:02:28.000 So, he sent his seven disciples in seven different directions.

02:02:32.000 One was sent to southern India, who is… today, we hold him as the father of southern mysticism.

02:02:39.000 He is Agasthi Muni, who came down south and he did maximum amount of work there.

02:02:44.000 Every human habitation he touched at that time and brought Spiritual process as a living practice, not as a separate practice.

02:02:53.000 Just the way you sit, just the way you do things, just the way you address each other was made into a spiritual process.

02:02:59.000 See, right now in India, if people go to the temple and whatever their favorite deity, if they worship, they will stand like this.

02:03:07.000 If anybody comes also, they'll stand like this.

02:03:09.000 If a dog comes also, they'll do this.

02:03:12.000 If they see a rock also, they'll do this.

02:03:14.000 If they see a tree also, they'll do this.

02:03:16.000 For the people just listening, you're holding your hands together in prayer.

02:03:19.000 It is not in prayer.

02:03:20.000 Well, this way.

02:03:21.000 Whatever you're doing with your hands.

02:03:22.000 Yes.

02:03:23.000 This is done to everybody.

02:03:24.000 Yes.

02:03:25.000 All right?

02:03:25.000 Okay.

02:03:25.000 So because spiritual process is not alien to the life that you live, the way you live has to become spiritual.

02:03:32.000 It's not that you have a spiritual practice and you have a separate life.

02:03:36.000 It is the same thing.

02:03:37.000 You… you integrate it into your life.

02:03:39.000 So, he did that.

02:03:41.000 Another one stayed with him.

02:03:42.000 Another one came to the northern part of India.

02:03:45.000 Another one went to Central Asia.

02:03:47.000 There are, you know, there are certain footprints of his.

02:03:50.000 Another one went to North Africa.

02:03:53.000 Another one to South Asia.

02:03:54.000 Another one came to South America.

02:03:58.000 Wherever these yogis went, suddenly those cultures where they went saw a sudden upsurge in the knowledge of geometry.

02:04:08.000 Wherever you see extraordinary sense of geometry, which is not in line with the tribal existence that they had, that means a yogi came there.

02:04:19.000 Sense of geometry meaning like the structures that they built?

02:04:22.000 Yes, structures that they built, the artifacts they created, the way they arranged things around themselves.

02:04:29.000 Suddenly they had a different sense of geometry because yoga is essentially a cosmic geometry.

02:04:35.000 Cosmic geometry.

02:04:37.000 To align yourself in line with the cosmos so that it reverberates as the same.

02:04:44.000 Which brings us to UFOs.

02:04:48.000 See, there is some substance and a lot of imagination with this UFO business.

02:04:58.000 Because we are always thinking life, you know, like all this… I'm saying this not with any… There are many people who could have experienced something, who could have seen something.

02:05:11.000 I'm saying generally the popular imagination of a UFO, craft will come and land, somebody will come out of it.

02:05:16.000 So you're thinking like this because that's how human beings operate, all right?

02:05:21.000 That we will go land somewhere, then the door opens, we come out.

02:05:25.000 How do you know that's how they also do it?

02:05:28.000 That's not how it is.

02:05:29.000 I have living experience with certain extraterrestrial life forms.

02:05:34.000 You do?

02:05:35.000 Yes, there are a whole lot of videos which I've spoken about.

02:05:39.000 I have a reputation of being very logically correct.

02:05:42.000 Now I don't want to lose it by talking about it to everybody.

02:05:45.000 But in exclusive groups, I've spoken in detail.

02:05:48.000 I've made other people experience these things, very profound experiences of life which is not of this planet.

02:05:56.000 But it's not like a craft will land, they'll open the door, they'll come out.

02:06:00.000 This is all your own thing.

02:06:02.000 You parked the car, you opened the door, you locked the door, you came out.

02:06:05.000 This is your thinking, all right?

02:06:07.000 It is not necessary other life should operate the way we operate.

02:06:12.000 It is nothing like where we are.

02:06:14.000 It's something totally different.

02:06:16.000 So, people have seen things here and there, some of it could be mistakes, some of it could be exaggeration, some of it could be just total lies.

02:06:25.000 But definitely some people have seen something, some people have experienced something.

02:06:29.000 There's no denying, everybody will not be lying.

02:06:32.000 There is no denying, it is there.

02:06:36.000 But we are thinking just the way we are, they will also be.

02:06:41.000 All we can think is a little bigger ears, little bigger eyes, maybe three eyes instead of two.

02:06:47.000 This is just exaggeration of what we already know.

02:06:51.000 Leave the imaginations aside, is there life beyond us?

02:06:54.000 It would be very pompous to believe that in such a vast cosmos, we are the only evolved life on the planet.

02:07:03.000 In the universe is itself a very pompous belief system.

02:07:06.000 Definitely there is more life.

02:07:11.000 You know, we have done things with it in the past.

02:07:15.000 We've done things with it?

02:07:16.000 Yes, we have done some experiments with such life.

02:07:18.000 We have made people experience this very strongly.

02:07:21.000 When you say we, who do you mean?

02:07:23.000 We as a group, we have done certain things.

02:07:25.000 You?

02:07:26.000 Yes.

02:07:27.000 So how?

02:07:28.000 Don't go into it.

02:07:29.000 Why not?

02:07:29.000 I have a reputation of being very logically correct.

02:07:32.000 Well, if you're logically correct about extraterrestrials, wouldn't that be beneficial to people that are hearing this?

02:07:38.000 No.

02:07:39.000 Why?

02:07:39.000 There are… see, our logic is related to our existence, the way we are made, all right?

02:07:45.000 The way the existence is made doesn't fit into our logic.

02:07:48.000 This is the biggest mistake that modern societies are making.

02:07:53.000 You're trying to fit the existence into your logic.

02:07:57.000 No, your logic has place in the existence.

02:08:00.000 Existence cannot be… you can't fit it into your logic.

02:08:04.000 Because your logic functions between binaries of two.

02:08:07.000 You and me have to be there for logic.

02:08:10.000 The whole spiritual experience itself is not logically correct because the experience of life is beyond two.

02:08:17.000 There are no binaries in spiritual process.

02:08:20.000 When I use the word spiritual, I am not using the word spiritual the way religions are using.

02:08:26.000 They're talking about a spirit which goes and comes and whatever, not in that sense.

02:08:30.000 If you experience your life Beyond your physiological and psychological construct, then you're spiritual.

02:08:39.000 So you mentioned it, which is already the most difficult thing to do.

02:08:45.000 Now to talk about it, you feel like would somehow or another discredit you.

02:08:50.000 I don't understand that because...

02:08:52.000 See, because...

02:08:55.000 There is only thus far that your language goes.

02:08:58.000 When you speak something, human languages, I have to be logically correct, otherwise you cannot speak.

02:09:05.000 But how are you experiencing this thing?

02:09:06.000 Can you just tell me how you're experiencing these things?

02:09:09.000 See, in certain spaces, There are very strong presence, which is when you feel the texture of that life, you know it is not like anything that we know here.

02:09:23.000 Obviously, it doesn't belong here.

02:09:24.000 It is… it has a different source than the life that we are.

02:09:29.000 When I say the life that we are, See, this is the yogic sciences.

02:09:35.000 This will confuse people if we go that far because people are thinking yoga is for backache, yoga is for health, yoga is for slimming down.

02:09:43.000 We've already established that's not the case.

02:09:45.000 So, yoga means you know the texture of life.

02:09:50.000 Unity.

02:09:51.000 That is one thing.

02:09:53.000 I'm talking about the texture of this life.

02:09:55.000 If you know the texture of this life… See, people ask me, how do you know all this?

02:09:59.000 I don't know anything.

02:10:00.000 There's only one thing I know.

02:10:02.000 I know the nature of this piece of life from its origin to its ultimate.

02:10:08.000 Because every other life is in some way built the same way, people think I know every other life.

02:10:15.000 No, I know only this life.

02:10:18.000 But fortunately, every other life from a single microbe to a human being to every other creature in some way is a reflection of this life because it's all connected.

02:10:27.000 Even the evolutionary sciences are saying the same thing.

02:10:29.000 Even the religions are saying the same thing, all right? 0.74

02:10:33.000 So, in that sense, I know the texture of this life and that life and every other life here.

02:10:40.000 But there are some lives which don't have the texture, which are totally different.

02:10:45.000 And how are you experiencing these lives? 0.92

02:10:53.000 You want me to say something ridiculous? 0.98

02:10:56.000 No, no. 0.96

02:10:57.000 I don't think it's ridiculous at all.

02:10:58.000 No, no. 0.63

02:10:59.000 If I say something which is illogical, it'll seem ridiculous.

02:11:02.000 I don't think it's illogical.

02:11:03.000 It will be logical because it will not fit into the framework of human logic.

02:11:09.000 Well, the framework of human logic is based on our own experience and interpretation of the life that we lived.

02:11:14.000 It doesn't mean that other people haven't experienced or interpreted something that is beyond our comprehension because we haven't experienced it personally.

02:11:25.000 I think that's logical.

02:11:28.000 We have done experiments where we attracted a certain life which doesn't have any texture of earthly life.

02:11:39.000 And how do you conduct these experiments?

02:11:41.000 I used certain people to invite them into their bodies.

02:11:46.000 And what happened there is totally unbelievable for people because I'll tell you a simple thing.

02:11:54.000 I invited a certain life into one person's body.

02:11:57.000 I kept… the weather was already like nearly zero, kind of sub-zero kind of atmosphere.

02:12:03.000 It was in Tibet.

02:12:04.000 And I kept a bowl of water about three inches above the head.

02:12:10.000 And when this life entered and I tried to hold it within that body, you won't believe this bowl which is three inches, the person is lying down on the ground, on wet soil, you know, they just put a bed sheet and this person is lying down.

02:12:26.000 This bowl is about three inches above the head on the ground.

02:12:29.000 The water started boiling.

02:12:31.000 There are over 200 people watching the water boiling, all right?

02:12:35.000 Because it created so much heat, then I let it go because it could burn up the person, you know, fuse out that person in some ways.

02:12:43.000 Because the moment it felt trapped, it created such heat.

02:12:46.000 The water is actually boiling three inches away from the bowl.

02:12:50.000 Did you film this?

02:12:50.000 Huh?

02:12:52.000 From a distance, they've filmed it, bad filming.

02:12:54.000 You know, they were not really looking for it, but it is there.

02:12:58.000 And how many times has this happened?

02:13:01.000 We did this about two times we did it properly.

02:13:05.000 Another time we did a mild one.

02:13:07.000 After that, I thought I will go spend time there, which has never happened.

02:13:12.000 And above all, It doesn't serve any purpose like that.

02:13:19.000 It doesn't serve a purpose to experiment?

02:13:21.000 It is more to know. 0.59

02:13:23.000 It doesn't serve a purpose as to how you can use because it could be I have to admit, I was stepping into an area where I don't know a damn thing. 0.80

02:13:34.000 Okay?

02:13:35.000 So you could make a mistake and take somebody's life or your own life or something like that.

02:13:40.000 So whatever these life forms are that you're experiencing, you can only experience them through another person's body?

02:13:49.000 No, no, no.

02:13:50.000 Not like that.

02:13:50.000 Only because I experienced, I wanted to demonstrate it to the people who are watching.

02:13:55.000 And how did you know that it was a thing?

02:13:57.000 Like, how did you know that you could experience it that way and exhibit it, put it on display for the people that are watching?

02:14:07.000 Wow.

02:14:08.000 See, your whole perception right now for most human being is limited to five senses.

02:14:15.000 Seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching.

02:14:18.000 This is how you know the world.

02:14:20.000 If something has no smell, no taste, no touch, You won't know?

02:14:26.000 But there could be an infinite number of senses that we're not aware of, that we don't possess.

02:14:32.000 So, these things are faced in many places, but there are certain places where there is an unreasonable level of concentration.

02:14:42.000 So, one place is this Kailash, Manasarov region in Tibet.

02:14:46.000 In last two years, we've not been able to go because the Chinese have closed this because of this corona virus or whatever. 0.96

02:14:53.000 Probably next year, it'll open up.

02:14:55.000 Last year, we went… we viewed Kailash and Manasarov from eight to ten kilometers away at the Nepali border.

02:15:02.000 We went there and even from a distance, what it does to people is unbelievable.

02:15:07.000 So it's just one concentrated hot spot of activity.

02:15:12.000 Yes.

02:15:12.000 And that too, it's like clockwork.

02:15:15.000 Exactly at 2.30 in the morning, it starts.

02:15:20.000 Boom! 0.99

02:15:21.000 Activity like that for about one and a half hours, one hour, 40 minutes like that.

02:15:25.000 After that, it just goes down.

02:15:26.000 It's almost like a busy airport.

02:15:28.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, things are happening.

02:15:30.000 But not like crafts or anything, just bunches of lives, just up and down, things happening for about one and a half to two hours max.

02:15:38.000 Do you think they're extraterrestrial?

02:15:41.000 Do you think they're interdimensional?

02:15:42.000 Do you think they're spirits?

02:15:44.000 They're not spirits.

02:15:45.000 No?

02:15:46.000 No.

02:15:47.000 Anything that's related to the planet, we will just know immediately.

02:15:50.000 It's not a… It's something that's from somewhere else.

02:15:54.000 It is definitely from somewhere else.

02:16:01.000 These are crazy things, man.

02:16:02.000 Why do you want me to speak about this?

02:16:04.000 No, I don't think they're that crazy.

02:16:06.000 I think they're only crazy because we haven't experienced them.

02:16:09.000 If you tried to explain many of the things that we take for granted because they're normal to someone who's never experienced them, like if you tried to experience fire to someone who'd never experienced fire, it would be the craziest idea that you could run across them.

02:16:27.000 That there's a thing that's not alive, but it consumes things and it could kill all life on this planet, but it could also serve a purpose to heat your home and cook your food.

02:16:40.000 This is what I'm saying.

02:16:41.000 In yoga, there are three types of fires within you.

02:16:45.000 It is Jataragni, Chitagni, Bhutagni.

02:16:49.000 Jataragni means the fire of stomach and the reproductive aspect, these two fires, which keep your survival going.

02:16:56.000 Chitagni is the fire of your intelligence, which propels a human being to do so many things.

02:17:01.000 Bhutagni is the fire of five elements of earth, earth, water, air, fire and space.

02:17:08.000 These five elements which is the composite of what everything physical is.

02:17:12.000 So these three fires, only if you keep them in control.

02:17:16.000 Right now, you know, for example, we're talking about the soil.

02:17:21.000 These whole civilizations have been built because of our gastronomic fire and our intellectual fire.

02:17:31.000 The same gastronomic fire, if it's unquenched, it can burn the world down.

02:17:37.000 Right now, UN agencies are predicting that by 2035, there'll be dozens of civil wars across the world because food shortages will cause that.

02:17:52.000 Because this fire is not met means people will set fire to each other.

02:17:58.000 How did you know that these entities or whatever these things are that you experienced existed?

02:18:10.000 So I was talking about five senses.

02:18:12.000 See, for your sense organs to experience anything, you need a contrast.

02:18:19.000 Only because there's light, you know darkness.

02:18:22.000 If it's all dark, you wouldn't know what is darkness, what is light.

02:18:26.000 Only because there is night, you know what's a day.

02:18:28.000 Only because there is a woman, you know what's a man. 0.99

02:18:31.000 Everything is by polarities.

02:18:33.000 If there are no polarities, your eyes, your ears, your anything, your five senses cannot function.

02:18:41.000 So, it is based on the information that these five senses has given you that your whole logical intellect has developed.

02:18:50.000 Without this information, This will not do anything.

02:18:54.000 It's only from the data that you got by seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and touching, your intellect is functioning in a certain way.

02:19:02.000 So, right now you can see this part of my hand, but you can't see this part.

02:19:07.000 If you see this part, you can't see this part.

02:19:09.000 This is the nature of your vision, isn't it?

02:19:12.000 Now, if you hear that sound at that moment, you don't hear the silence.

02:19:17.000 So, everything is like this.

02:19:19.000 You see only a part of it through sense perception.

02:19:22.000 Because of this, your logic is all in pieces.

02:19:25.000 So, with logically, if you arrive at any conclusion, it is like I gave you a million piece jigsaw.

02:19:32.000 You found five pieces, you put them together and say, oh, this is a bear, this is a bear.

02:19:37.000 No, you're in Texas, this is a horse, you said.

02:19:41.000 Because with five pieces, you arrived at some conclusion.

02:19:43.000 This is what intellect means.

02:19:45.000 This is why in yogic sciences, we don't attach any significance to what you think and feel because out of a million-piece jigsaw, you found a few pieces and you're making your conclusions.

02:19:56.000 It's not of any relevance for one who wants to know.

02:20:00.000 It may be of relevance for one who wants to survive.

02:20:03.000 It may be of relevance for one who wants to win a race with somebody else.

02:20:07.000 Okay, your horse… you figured out the horse better than somebody else, you win the race.

02:20:11.000 But it's not of any relevance for someone who wants to know.

02:20:15.000 For a seeker, it's of no relevance. 1.00

02:20:17.000 So, how to go beyond sense perception, how to know life beyond sense perception is the entire aspect of yoga.

02:20:26.000 Because as long as sense perception is on, you and me distinctly separate.

02:20:32.000 No way.

02:20:33.000 That is you, this is me.

02:20:35.000 Only if you go beyond sense perception, we were doing this, beyond your sensory limitations if you go, something that not you becomes you.

02:20:46.000 Right now, with food it's happening.

02:20:49.000 Something… see, when it's on your plate, you call this my food.

02:20:53.000 When you eat it, you say it's me, isn't it?

02:20:56.000 Something that's not you became you.

02:20:58.000 So, this is yoga, that you understand the sense perception is dividing the world and this division is needed for your survival process, but this division is no use for you to know life.

02:21:11.000 The way it is.

02:21:12.000 So, the yogic sciences are focused on how to transcend the sensory perception, how to suspend your senses and simply perceive life without the division.

02:21:23.000 If you do that, everything that is here will be in some way known to you.

02:21:27.000 And there is so much here that people don't see.

02:21:31.000 If you talk about it, you look like a mumbo-jumbo witch doctor, so you don't talk about these things.

02:21:39.000 But how did you know that it was going to be in that area?

02:21:42.000 It's not that I knew it's in that area.

02:21:44.000 I had heard stories about that place, but I thought I'll just go there one time just to see because it's a magnificent place.

02:21:52.000 By any standard, it's a beautiful, beautiful place.

02:21:56.000 So, it's a little over… the lake is around 4,400 feet above main sea level.

02:22:02.000 The Kalash Peak is almost 19,000 feet.

02:22:07.000 So, once I went and the magnificent nature of that… See, the mountain is a place, this is a yogic tradition that when a yogi gets to know certain things, he knows he cannot share it, his experience.

02:22:23.000 He cannot share it because nobody will understand it.

02:22:26.000 Because it cannot be understood, it can only be experienced.

02:22:29.000 So, what he will do is, he will store it in an energy form in a place where there is not too much foot… human footprint, at the same time, it's not completely inaccessible.

02:22:41.000 There are many places like this in India.

02:22:43.000 There are places like that in other parts of the world also.

02:22:46.000 One fantastic place that you must visit is in United States is Matotipila.

02:22:52.000 Where's that?

02:22:54.000 Matotipila is in Wyoming.

02:22:56.000 Wyoming.

02:22:57.000 Near what?

02:22:58.000 Rapid City, huh?

02:23:00.000 They call it the Devil's Tower.

02:23:02.000 You heard of that?

02:23:03.000 The Devil's Tower.

02:23:04.000 Is that from Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

02:23:07.000 I don't know about that movie, but in many Western movies, it's always there.

02:23:12.000 Yeah, that's Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

02:23:13.000 This is called Matotipila.

02:23:16.000 In that Steven Spielberg movie, that's a very significant place because that's where the aliens land.

02:23:20.000 Oh, is that so?

02:23:21.000 Yeah.

02:23:22.000 So, this is a powerful, powerful space.

02:23:25.000 In America, this is one space I found which is naturally tremendous.

02:23:30.000 And see, this is Kalash.

02:23:34.000 Wow.

02:23:38.000 It is something else.

02:23:40.000 It is the greatest mystical library on the planet.

02:23:43.000 That place?

02:23:44.000 Yes.

02:23:44.000 Kalash.

02:23:45.000 What do you think is going on there?

02:23:47.000 What do you think is going on there?

02:23:49.000 Why is it all concentrated?

02:23:50.000 One thing is Adi Yogi himself was there.

02:23:52.000 He lived there.

02:23:53.000 So he stored all that he knows there.

02:23:56.000 And many other yogis later on, many Buddhist teachers like Padmasambhava and Manjushri, all these people and even the Jain monks, they all went and stored their energies there because the knowledge that they know, they don't want it to be lost.

02:24:12.000 It can't be transmitted to people because you will not find the suitable people to do that.

02:24:17.000 So, you place it somewhere where in future somebody who has the capability will access this.

02:24:23.000 I'll tell you one experience.

02:24:25.000 I'm going into the mumbo jumbo world.

02:24:26.000 Why, man?

02:24:27.000 I came for...

02:24:27.000 It's not mumbo jumbo at all.

02:24:29.000 I came for safe soil.

02:24:30.000 You're getting me somewhere else.

02:24:31.000 We're doing both.

02:24:33.000 I don't think it's mumbo jumbo.

02:24:35.000 See, this happened.

02:24:37.000 I was...

02:24:38.000 This is what?

02:24:39.000 I'm just thinking the years.

02:24:40.000 I'm not good with years.

02:24:42.000 Must be 10, 11 years ago, maybe.

02:24:45.000 2008 or...

02:24:47.000 Even before that.

02:24:48.000 I'm sorry.

02:24:49.000 2003 or 2004. I started running temperature.

02:24:54.000 I was in India.

02:24:56.000 No, first I was in California.

02:24:57.000 I was in Los Angeles.

02:24:59.000 I started running temperature.

02:25:01.000 And I come to speak in the Thai group, you know, there is an Indian group, entrepreneurs group.

02:25:07.000 And I spoke there and the president of the Thai group invited me to their home again to speak again to another exclusive group.

02:25:17.000 I was speaking there, I'm running very high temperature and I'm… you know, my clothes are all wet with sweat.

02:25:24.000 So, one man raised his hand.

02:25:26.000 I thought he wants to ask a question.

02:25:27.000 I said, fine.

02:25:28.000 He said, you need to go to the emergency room right now.

02:25:33.000 I said, yes, I know, but I'll finish this talk and go.

02:25:38.000 Then I finished the talk and then I went to the hospital like I was running very high temperature.

02:25:44.000 So, they gave me this, that and they said, this is some kind of typhoid.

02:25:48.000 So, I met one wonderful doctor who was a tropical medicine expert.

02:25:52.000 He said, this is some strange kind of typhoid.

02:25:54.000 So, he gave me a whole lot of antibiotics, this, that.

02:25:58.000 I took that and then I went to UK where I had a four-day residential program.

02:26:03.000 All the four days I was running very high temperature.

02:26:07.000 But I finished that program.

02:26:08.000 In this 40 years, I've never canceled one program because I was not well.

02:26:13.000 I've never done that.

02:26:14.000 So, I went back to India.

02:26:16.000 I had a television shoot, I had to shoot fifty-two weeks of material in about four to five days.

02:26:23.000 So, from whole day I'm shooting and if I sit down for thirty-forty minutes of shoot, I'm like my whole… all my clothes are wet with sweat, I have to change my clothes because I'm sweating so much.

02:26:37.000 And then after shooting the whole day on the second or third day, I came home and I was like, feeling like my brains are getting fried up, so hot.

02:26:46.000 Then I took the thermometer and put it, it said 107. I thought, oh man, I'm killing myself right now.

02:26:54.000 So, with my entire… my clothes, everything, I went and stood under the cold shower.

02:26:59.000 Then I called the doctor and said, you know, it was reading 107, I stood under the cold shower.

02:27:05.000 So, this is the smartest thing you've done in your entire life.

02:27:09.000 If you had been in that for another few minutes, you would have a stroke or you would have something, for sure.

02:27:15.000 Then they said it's some kind of what?

02:27:18.000 Malaria.

02:27:20.000 And they gave me malarial medicine.

02:27:21.000 I had typhoid medicine, then I got malaria medicine.

02:27:24.000 Then they said three different types of malarias they're diagnosed in one month's time and they changed the medication, changed the medication.

02:27:31.000 And then I went to Australia.

02:27:33.000 I was running temperature.

02:27:35.000 I was in Singapore, I was running temperature.

02:27:36.000 I came to India for two days, I was running temperature.

02:27:39.000 Then I came back to United States.

02:27:41.000 So, it was my daughter's vacation, so I told her I'll take her to some lake house.

02:27:47.000 Somebody had a friend of ours, so I said I'll take her on the lake.

02:27:51.000 So, I have a port, you know, IV port running by now.

02:27:54.000 I have antibiotic every day running about three, four hours a day.

02:27:58.000 With IV port on, I'm riding a boat and taking her around and everything going on.

02:28:03.000 Wow.

02:28:03.000 By then, I have done about 18 blood tests and about four MRIs.

02:28:13.000 All kinds of bizarre things they're saying and changing the prescription and giving me this medication, that medication.

02:28:19.000 Temperature didn't go down.

02:28:20.000 It just went on and on.

02:28:22.000 Then I was in North Carolina on this lake house.

02:28:25.000 Around 2 a.m., I knew that I was just kind of collapsing, kind of, you know, dropping off.

02:28:31.000 Then I called out and they called for an ambulance.

02:28:36.000 It came and they took me to a local hospital in Kashirs in North… in Carolina.

02:28:43.000 And these doctors looked at me, this is… they looked at all the blood tests and this is too esoteric for us.

02:28:49.000 You better go to Atlanta.

02:28:52.000 So, I went to Atlanta.

02:28:54.000 There they said it's best you go to some physician in New York.

02:28:58.000 He's the best guy, you must go there because by now almost seven weeks I've been running continuous temperature, I've been traveling all over the world.

02:29:07.000 So, I went to New York and they said, you know, you must get admitted, we'll check.

02:29:13.000 Then I got admitted, by then I can… you know, I'm having difficulty walking, I'm just really go… like become weak.

02:29:21.000 Then… and by then my lymph nodes have swollen up so badly, excruciating pain.

02:29:27.000 So, they said they may have to do surgery and they have to do a biopsy first and see what is it, is it malignant or whatever.

02:29:37.000 Then I'm in the hospital, next day morning for the… it's a general anesthesia, they have a pre-check for anesthesia.

02:29:44.000 So in that funny gown which is open on all sides, you know, I'm wearing that holding like this and trying to walk holding onto the wall.

02:29:51.000 I got into the elevator to go to another floor.

02:29:54.000 In between in one floor, the lift stopped.

02:29:57.000 A Chinese man got in.

02:29:59.000 So the doctor who was with me introduced, he's the one who is going to do the surgery for you.

02:30:06.000 Then the Chinese doctor felt the lymph nodes like this and said, it's very deep, you must inform the family.

02:30:13.000 Then I went for the test, for the anesthetic tests, then I said, I'm going home.

02:30:19.000 Doctor said, no Sadhguru, this is very dangerous, you can't leave the hospital. 0.97

02:30:22.000 I said, no, I'm going.

02:30:26.000 I said, I'll go.

02:30:27.000 I don't want to go through the surgery.

02:30:29.000 So I went back.

02:30:30.000 A friend had an apartment in Manhattan area.

02:30:33.000 I just closed my eyes and sat for four days.

02:30:35.000 My temperature went down.

02:30:37.000 The swelling went down.

02:30:39.000 In twenty-one days, I was in Kalash, trekked.

02:30:43.000 You know, my muscle mass had gone down, my legs had become like this.

02:30:48.000 Always I've been walking, trekking, playing games.

02:30:50.000 I have some muscle, not like you, but I have some muscle to keep me going.

02:30:56.000 But my muscle mass went down so much in these eight weeks, I just shrank like that.

02:31:01.000 With great difficulty, I trekked there, I could barely speak.

02:31:07.000 And I sat there for two hours.

02:31:09.000 I took one strand of what is there on that mountain.

02:31:12.000 You won't believe.

02:31:13.000 In two and a half hours, I was almost ten to fifteen years younger than what I was at that moment.

02:31:20.000 People around me will vouch for it, how suddenly I'm a different man.

02:31:25.000 After eight weeks of fever and all kinds of treatments without knowing what it is, So that is the power of that mountain.

02:31:34.000 It's not just to heal you of your health or something.

02:31:37.000 It is tremendous amount of everything that one can know in the universe is stored there in some way.

02:31:44.000 It is your ability to pull it out.

02:31:48.000 But you were… you were covered in Manhattan, right?

02:31:52.000 Yes.

02:31:53.000 What makes you think it's that mountain?

02:31:57.000 See, I closed my eyes and I did what I have to do with my system, which gave me a respite.

02:32:03.000 But still, I was not fully there.

02:32:06.000 Still very weak and like that.

02:32:09.000 But I just bounced back in two and a half hours' time.

02:32:13.000 But I don't understand what it has to do with that mountain.

02:32:17.000 See, this is what it is.

02:32:20.000 What you think is you is not just contained in the boundaries of this body.

02:32:27.000 If you are willing to open up that boundary, the whole existence is with you.

02:32:36.000 So you opened up your body after all those weeks and you don't think it has anything to do with the antibiotics you were taking or you were finally getting some rest?

02:32:44.000 Antibiotics didn't give me a respite at all.

02:32:46.000 But you never rested, right?

02:32:49.000 I'm very restful, even if I'm traveling.

02:32:52.000 But you were constantly working, right?

02:32:54.000 You were explaining all the different things you were doing and that you were constantly taxing yourself.

02:32:58.000 No, I don't tax myself.

02:33:00.000 But that was taxing.

02:33:01.000 You were sweating through your clothes.

02:33:03.000 Yes, that's because of fever.

02:33:05.000 Right, but you never rested.

02:33:07.000 This swelling, which they said without looking inside, they will do biopsy and most probably they'll do surgery along with that, which was excruciating pain, just went down.

02:33:17.000 But it went down after you rested, right?

02:33:20.000 Not rested.

02:33:21.000 I sat with my eyes closed.

02:33:22.000 I didn't sleep.

02:33:24.000 I sat.

02:33:25.000 But you didn't do anything for four days.

02:33:27.000 If you want to explain it, this is why I said, see, I'm going into Mumbojo.

02:33:31.000 No, no, I believe you.

02:33:34.000 I'm just trying to piece together why...

02:33:37.000 So I'm saying when doctors, every qualified doctor is saying that I'm in a state where you'll have to inform the family because I'm in a life and death situation, you don't recover just because four days you sit there with eyes closed,

02:33:53.000 all right?

02:33:54.000 You don't think so?

02:33:56.000 No, not because of rest.

02:33:58.000 You think that there was something supernatural or something else?

02:34:02.000 See… What is the term you would use?

02:34:04.000 I never use the word supernatural because everything is within the aspect of nature.

02:34:08.000 Okay, what would you use?

02:34:10.000 So, which aspect of nature are you in right now?

02:34:14.000 That is the thing.

02:34:15.000 See, one aspect of your nature is survival, for example, for every human being.

02:34:21.000 Because of survival, you try to build boundaries around yourself.

02:34:25.000 Whether it's a national boundary or an individual boundary, your house boundary or your personal boundaries, these are all, you know, self-preservation boundaries.

02:34:34.000 But there is also something within you which wants to expand, which doesn't like boundaries.

02:34:40.000 Why people suffer the prison like that is just the boundaries.

02:34:45.000 Nothing else wrong, it's much bigger than your home, the prison.

02:34:49.000 Actually, your kind of company, I'm saying if you're in that kind of life, it's your kind of company, food is good, you're far fitter than most people on the outside, you don't have to do a job to get your food.

02:35:01.000 It's actually very good.

02:35:03.000 But lack of freedom kills a man totally.

02:35:11.000 I want to go back to experiencing these different life forms that you experienced.

02:35:17.000 You had heard that they existed in this place.

02:35:24.000 Generally, yes, a lot of people who have been there have been talking about it, but a lot of talk is of that nature.

02:35:34.000 See, as I said, I'm a super skeptic.

02:35:37.000 I don't believe anything that anybody says.

02:35:39.000 You have to experience it.

02:35:40.000 Nor do I disbelieve.

02:35:41.000 Right.

02:35:42.000 Somebody says something, maybe it's true for them.

02:35:44.000 I will respect that, but it's not that I have to believe it unless it happens to me.

02:35:49.000 Do you think that a certain state of mind or being is what puts you in touch with these other life forms?

02:35:58.000 No.

02:35:58.000 Let's see these two things you're saying in the same context and that's how normally it's used in the society.

02:36:04.000 People think a state of mind is everything.

02:36:08.000 See, mind itself is a very limited process in the sense.

02:36:13.000 See, right now, generally in the Western world, you think mind means your intellect, thought process.

02:36:21.000 Your thought process cannot generate anything other than the data that you already possess.

02:36:29.000 Correct?

02:36:30.000 Can you think of something that's not at all there in your data?

02:36:34.000 Imagination.

02:36:35.000 No.

02:36:35.000 Your imagination is just an exaggeration of the data that you already have.

02:36:40.000 Okay.

02:36:40.000 If there is no data, you cannot imagine.

02:36:43.000 So this thing that you experienced was beyond imagination.

02:36:48.000 I'll come to that.

02:36:49.000 See, right now, when you say state of mind, you're talking about whether you're equanimous or you're disturbed or you're happy, unhappy, or you're able to penetrate something, you're not able to penetrate something in terms of intellect.

02:37:05.000 But all these are dependent because it is like your computer.

02:37:09.000 If you remove the data, it's just a blank screen.

02:37:12.000 So, if I remove all the memory that you have, you're just a blank screen, isn't it?

02:37:18.000 So, right now, your ideas of right and wrong, your ideas of your nationality, your ideas of your race, your ideas of your religion, your ideas of your family, your ideas of yourself is all in the memory bank.

02:37:31.000 If we just take out that memory chip… Nothing.

02:37:36.000 So, your whole intellect is functioning from that because you can see… because you cannot see the end of the universe.

02:37:44.000 If you could see the end of the universe, you would say, it's just me here, nobody else.

02:37:49.000 Because you cannot see, because you're here, maybe there are people there.

02:37:54.000 This is an imagination, all right?

02:37:57.000 But imagination is rooted in the data that you already have.

02:38:01.000 You cannot imagine something new.

02:38:03.000 You use two words together, state of mind and state of being.

02:38:08.000 Being means this.

02:38:11.000 See, right now you have a body.

02:38:13.000 But when you were born, you were only this much.

02:38:16.000 Now you became this much.

02:38:17.000 How?

02:38:17.000 The food that you've eaten, isn't it?

02:38:20.000 Now you have a mind.

02:38:21.000 When you were born, you were just like a little baby, suddenly you become all this.

02:38:26.000 How?

02:38:28.000 Whole accumulation of impressions, isn't it, through five senses?

02:38:31.000 What you have seen, what you have heard, what you have smelled, what you have tasted, what you have touched, from this you have formed a whole lot of information with which you have a mind of your own.

02:38:40.000 How rich that information is makes you look that smart in a given society, all right?

02:38:46.000 If you're well informed, just because you have a good data chip, people think you're smart, not necessarily.

02:38:53.000 So, essentially smart means always in comparison to somebody else.

02:38:56.000 So, these days everybody's saying they have a smartphone.

02:39:00.000 See, when would you call somebody smart?

02:39:02.000 Only if they're smarter than you.

02:39:04.000 So, if you say smartphone, obviously it is smarter than you, simply because it has more memory than you, isn't it?

02:39:11.000 And it has more multiple functionality than you.

02:39:14.000 More access to information.

02:39:15.000 Yes.

02:39:16.000 So, that is intellect, but intellect is not everything.

02:39:22.000 When it comes to intellect, would you like your intellect sharp or blunt?

02:39:26.000 Tell me, I'm going to bless you right now.

02:39:28.000 You're going to bless me?

02:39:29.000 Hmm.

02:39:30.000 Do you want it sharp or blunt?

02:39:31.000 I'm going to go with sharp.

02:39:32.000 Sounds better.

02:39:33.000 So that means your intellect is a cutting instrument.

02:39:36.000 It's like a knife.

02:39:37.000 The more sharper it is, the better it is.

02:39:41.000 So with sharp knife, you can dissect and know things.

02:39:45.000 So I want to know Joe Rogan right now.

02:39:47.000 Shall I dissect him?

02:39:49.000 Will I know him if I open him up?

02:39:53.000 Will I know him that way?

02:39:54.000 No, you're going to have to experience.

02:39:55.000 Yes, that's it.

02:39:56.000 So, dissection may show me the… how your heart is, how your liver is, how your kidney is, but you won't meet Joe out there, all right?

02:40:08.000 So, by dissection you can know physical things.

02:40:11.000 By dissection you cannot know anything which is beyond that, all right?

02:40:15.000 The life in you cannot be perceived by dissection of any kind.

02:40:19.000 So, now with an intellect which is a knife, With this knife, if you try to stitch your clothes, then you will be like today's fashion, everybody's in tatters.

02:40:30.000 So, to stitch, you need a different kind of tool.

02:40:37.000 To cut, you need a different kind of tool.

02:40:39.000 Right now, with the cutting tool, people are trying to do everything.

02:40:43.000 You know, this happened to me.

02:40:45.000 At that time, I was crisscrossing India on my motorcycle where I was just in my early twenties.

02:40:50.000 And whole night I've been riding, early morning I come into a small place where there is a street side tea shop where I had sat down and had a tea and those days this motorcycle chain, you know, if you ride one six hundred,

02:41:05.000 seven hundred kilometers really fast, it becomes slack.

02:41:08.000 You have to remove one link.

02:41:09.000 Today, modern motorcycles are made differently, it's very different.

02:41:12.000 Those days, like, around 700, 800 kilometers means it'll become slack.

02:41:17.000 So, almost every day, I have to remove one link from the chain, and I have a spare chain with me always because it'll go off.

02:41:24.000 And in a day at those days, I'm riding 1,000 to 1,200 kilometers per day.

02:41:29.000 Those days when roads were not great, and our motorcycle was just 250cc, single-stroke engine, all right?

02:41:36.000 I'm sorry, two-stroke engine.

02:41:38.000 So, I was having my tea.

02:41:42.000 It's not very difficult to fix the chain, but it's messy.

02:41:45.000 Your hands get dirty, you need soap and everything.

02:41:48.000 I was having tea and I saw the opposite, there was a small shack.

02:41:52.000 He had Mubarak Mechanical Works, he'd written.

02:41:57.000 Strapling young youth, I told him, hey, come here man, can you fix my chain?

02:42:01.000 He said, oh yes, sir, I can fix it.

02:42:03.000 I said, okay.

02:42:05.000 Then he came out with a chisel and hammer.

02:42:08.000 I said, wait.

02:42:10.000 I got up and went and I looked into a shack.

02:42:13.000 He doesn't have any other tools.

02:42:14.000 Only thing he has is chisel and hammer.

02:42:17.000 He can fix it, but after that nobody can fix anything on that motorcycle.

02:42:22.000 So right now, most human beings are like this.

02:42:25.000 They are trying to fix everything with their intellect, which is a cutting instrument.

02:42:30.000 With a cutting instrument, if you try to fix everything, all that you will have is a bruised life.

02:42:35.000 That's what they're having.

02:42:37.000 If they're failures in their life, they're suffering.

02:42:40.000 If they're successful, they're dying of tension.

02:42:42.000 If they're poor, they're suffering their poverty.

02:42:44.000 If they become rich, they suffer their taxes.

02:42:47.000 If they're not married, they suffer that.

02:42:49.000 If they're married, oh, don't tell me, all the things that they do.

02:42:52.000 Everything, because you're trying to handle everything with a cutting instrument.

02:42:58.000 Naturally, you're fully bruised and bleeding by the time you're done with life.

02:43:03.000 So, the perception of life is beyond intellect.

02:43:08.000 Intellect is not perception.

02:43:10.000 Intellect is coming out with permutations and combinations of information that you already possess.

02:43:16.000 So, you experiencing whatever this life form was is beyond words because it's beyond anything… See, because words are a product of our intellect.

02:43:30.000 Language is a product of our intellect.

02:43:32.000 That's why I said, if I speak, I'll end up speaking illogically.

02:43:36.000 Because intellectually, you cannot think illogically.

02:43:41.000 If you think, you can only think logically.

02:43:44.000 Somebody may not agree with your logic, but you can only think logically within yourself, isn't it?

02:43:49.000 Nobody thinks illogically.

02:43:51.000 You may think the other guy is illogical, but he thinks you're illogical.

02:43:55.000 But within your mind, you're never illogical, isn't it?

02:43:58.000 Right.

02:43:59.000 Because the thought process is like that.

02:44:01.000 That is the nature of the intellect.

02:44:03.000 You have to add.

02:44:04.000 Two plus two is four.

02:44:05.000 Maybe you added two plus two is five.

02:44:07.000 You got it wrong, but you're still thinking it's logically correct, isn't it?

02:44:11.000 Right.

02:44:12.000 So this experience that you had, whatever it is, we don't have the tools to express it in a way that a person who has an experience can understand it.

02:44:25.000 You have the equipment.

02:44:26.000 You have not even opened the wraps.

02:44:29.000 Everybody has it.

02:44:31.000 There's nobody who doesn't have it.

02:44:32.000 Do you have to experience it to know what this equipment is?

02:44:36.000 No, it's just that...

02:44:38.000 See, where people are invested, that's what they know, isn't it?

02:44:44.000 Yes.

02:44:47.000 So, that's all it is.

02:44:48.000 They're invested.

02:44:50.000 Largely, most people are invested in trying to be better than somebody else.

02:44:54.000 Because right from their kindergarten school, their parents, their teachers, everybody told you, you must be number one.

02:45:00.000 That means you always enjoy other people's failures.

02:45:05.000 When you enjoy other people's failures, I don't call this joy, I call this sickness.

02:45:10.000 That is a sickness, and that's a sickness that a lot of people possess, the enjoying other people's failure sickness.

02:45:17.000 Yep.

02:45:18.000 Yeah.

02:45:20.000 See, why is it that you enjoy a billion dollars?

02:45:22.000 I'm a billionaire, somebody enjoys it.

02:45:25.000 Why?

02:45:25.000 Because nobody else has it around you.

02:45:27.000 If...

02:45:28.000 let's say I'll...

02:45:29.000 somebody who's aspiring for a billion dollars, I'll give you billion dollars, but for everybody else in the town, I'll give them ten billion dollars.

02:45:36.000 Will you be happy?

02:45:38.000 You will not be.

02:45:39.000 You'll be very unhappy with your billion dollars.

02:45:42.000 Because your whole problem is you want to be on top of everybody.

02:45:45.000 Yes.

02:45:46.000 Yeah.

02:45:47.000 Why do people have that?

02:45:49.000 What do you think that's...

02:45:50.000 What is that left over from?

02:45:53.000 See, this is because, as I said, your whole life is limited to your sense perception.

02:46:00.000 Sense organs can only perceive in comparison.

02:46:05.000 See, right now, you're six feet tall.

02:46:08.000 You're not.

02:46:08.000 I'm just telling you.

02:46:09.000 For some time, let's assume you're six feet tall.

02:46:12.000 Now, you stand like a tall man, you walk like a tall man, you feel like a tall man, you think like a tall man.

02:46:18.000 You went to another society where everybody is eight feet tall.

02:46:22.000 Suddenly, you walk like a short man, think like a short man, feel like a short man.

02:46:26.000 So, your entire perception is always in comparison when it comes to sense organs.

02:46:32.000 This is what yoga is about, going beyond the senses because this thing that you perceive in comparison is only useful for survival process.

02:46:43.000 It is not good enough to know the nature of the universe.

02:46:46.000 These are all realms which only interest people who just want to know.

02:46:53.000 There may be no use, but you want to know.

02:46:57.000 So there is that aspect in every human being.

02:47:00.000 Whether you have kept it alive or you kept it buried is a question.

02:47:05.000 That's that old quote, comparison is the thief of joy.

02:47:09.000 Is that Thoreau?

02:47:10.000 No.

02:47:12.000 Is it?

02:47:13.000 Oh, that's right.

02:47:15.000 I thought maybe Thomas Jefferson originally attributed to?

02:47:21.000 Roosevelt.

02:47:25.000 Listen, man, I really enjoyed talking to you.

02:47:27.000 Thank you very much for being here.

02:47:28.000 Yeah, thank you for having me.

02:47:30.000 But you know, this soil is a serious situation.

02:47:34.000 It's a serious situation.

02:47:35.000 And from March 21st, I'm riding 30,000 kilometers and I'm 65. What I see is in the last two years, I've been talking to so many people, influencers, scientists, politicians, leaders.

02:47:49.000 Everybody knows there's a serious problem.

02:47:51.000 And everybody knows what is the solution also, generally. 1.00

02:47:56.000 But I think everybody was waiting for some idiot to come and bell the cat. 0.99

02:48:00.000 So, here I am. 1.00

02:48:02.000 Okay?

02:48:02.000 So, next 100 days from March 21st, 100 days we want the whole world to talk about soil because I'm addressing the COP15 where 170 nation representatives are there, where we are presenting these documents.

02:48:16.000 Before that, we want to raise three to four billion people to talk about soil.

02:48:22.000 Once 60% of the electorate has spoken in the world that soil is a deep concern to them, believe me, every government will get active on the job.

02:48:32.000 Because in a democracy, the only currency is numbers.

02:48:38.000 Where can someone follow this online?

02:48:41.000 Do you have a website?

02:48:42.000 Yes.

02:48:43.000 SaveSoil.org is there.

02:48:45.000 SaveSoil.org?

02:48:46.000 Yes.

02:48:47.000 There's an Instagram and Twitter and Facebook.

02:48:50.000 And you have an Instagram as well?

02:48:52.000 Yes.

02:48:52.000 We have what is called as You Can Become an Earth Buddy.

02:48:56.000 If you become an earth buddy, every day you spend five to ten minutes to enhance the message, to reach as many people as possible.

02:49:02.000 So, people must understand this.

02:49:05.000 People are… everywhere I go, people say, Sadhguru, the social media is stressing me intentionally. 0.99

02:49:09.000 This is rubbish.

02:49:10.000 See, many, many great beings have come in this world, but when they spoke, hardly ten people could hear them. 0.97

02:49:20.000 This is the first time you can sit here and talk to the entire world.

02:49:24.000 When you have such tools in your hands, if you do not transform humanity, if you do not do what is absolutely needed for this generation, it shows that we don't care enough.

02:49:34.000 I don't want to be that one who didn't care enough to do something which matters because right now we are consuming the soil and food that belongs to the unborn child.

02:49:45.000 This is a crime against humanity.

02:49:50.000 I hear ya.

02:49:52.000 Let's make it happen.

02:49:53.000 Let's make it happen.

02:49:54.000 It will help elevate your signal.

02:49:56.000 And thank you very much.

02:49:57.000 I really, really enjoyed this.

02:49:58.000 You gave me a lot to think about.

02:50:00.000 I'm gonna continue to think about this.

02:50:04.000 Thank you.

02:50:05.000 Thank you.

02:50:06.000 Bye everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 14, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1791 - Sadhguru

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