The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1799 - Yannis Pappas

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00:00:13.000 Hello, Joe Rogan.

00:00:15.000 When are you moving to Texas?

00:00:16.000 As soon as I can.

00:00:17.000 Are you thinking about it?

00:00:18.000 Absolutely.

00:00:18.000 Really?

00:00:19.000 I'm coming down.

00:00:19.000 Yeah, I'll be here.

00:00:20.000 That club's opening.

00:00:21.000 I love Texas.

00:00:23.000 I love Terry's barbecue.

00:00:25.000 How fun was last night?

00:00:26.000 Last night was a lot of fun at the Vulcan. 0.99

00:00:28.000 Those shows are fucking great. 0.95

00:00:29.000 We're doing those shows every week. 0.99

00:00:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:31.000 It's such an amazing place where you can fuck around and work out and write new shit and practice in front of live audiences. 0.99

00:00:39.000 Yeah, they were an incredible audience, incredible show. 0.99

00:00:42.000 It was nice.

00:00:43.000 Green room's nice.

00:00:44.000 Private bathroom.

00:00:46.000 Push a coat in, that's nice.

00:00:48.000 It's fun.

00:00:49.000 It's a win-win-win.

00:00:50.000 Yeah, it's fun, man.

00:00:51.000 Yeah.

00:00:51.000 It's a unique situation to be at a comedy scene.

00:00:56.000 There was always a comedy scene here, but now it's like, because of COVID, it got this new boost.

00:01:02.000 And so many guys moved here, and now it's flourishing.

00:01:05.000 And now it's different.

00:01:07.000 It's got a different feel to it.

00:01:09.000 Yeah, and it's not just comics, it's people.

00:01:11.000 I mean, this place is growing and growing and growing.

00:01:13.000 Every time I come here, it's like watching somebody who started working out and you haven't seen them in a while, and you're like, wow, man, you're looking good!

00:01:22.000 You're looking good.

00:01:23.000 You shed a few pounds, you know, and by that I mean like shed a few homeless people in the street, like they're less and less.

00:01:29.000 That's the big move.

00:01:30.000 We actually talked about that yesterday with Michael Schellenberger, a guy who's running for governor of California. 0.98

00:01:35.000 And the mayor, Steven Adler of Austin, he had a plan and he fucking pulled it off. 0.67

00:01:42.000 He was like, if I can fix this homeless problem, if I can't fix this homeless problem by the time I leave office, he goes, it'll be a big failure. 0.96

00:01:49.000 He goes, but I think I can do it.

00:01:52.000 He goes, it's only a couple thousand people.

00:01:53.000 We think we can provide them housing.

00:01:55.000 We think we can get them help.

00:01:57.000 Give them shelter.

00:01:58.000 You're always going to have some people that just want to live in the woods in a tent.

00:02:01.000 You're going to have some schizophrenics who think the government's got a chip in their brain. 0.93

00:02:04.000 It's always crazy people.

00:02:05.000 But he managed to get all those tents off of Cesar Chavez, off of those main streets, off of downtown, and it's way better now.

00:02:14.000 Way better.

00:02:15.000 I used to work at a formerly homeless SRO. Other states should adopt that.

00:02:21.000 New York City, they have this thing.

00:02:23.000 It's called an SRO, where it's like Section 8 housing, so the government pays most of it, tries to employ them.

00:02:28.000 There's caseworkers there.

00:02:29.000 That's what I did.

00:02:30.000 And that's great.

00:02:31.000 It houses the homeless.

00:02:33.000 They usually take old hotels, or sometimes I think they build buildings specifically for that.

00:02:40.000 They have their own room, a shared bathroom, and caseworkers on there.

00:02:44.000 It was fun.

00:02:45.000 Did you do that fresh out of college?

00:02:46.000 I did that.

00:02:48.000 I did 9-11 disaster relief fresh out of college from 2002 to 2005. So that was like an ad hoc agency, Lutheran Social Services.

00:02:59.000 So that was my first foray into social work.

00:03:03.000 And then I worked at an SRO for two years.

00:03:05.000 So when you say disaster relief, like what does that entail?

00:03:08.000 It was helping people who lost their livelihood, lost family members at 9-11.

00:03:15.000 You know, they were affected by it in some way.

00:03:18.000 They were in the blast zone, the disaster zone.

00:03:20.000 They had to be relocated.

00:03:22.000 They lost their jobs.

00:03:23.000 So we would like...

00:03:26.000 Petition to FEMA to get them.

00:03:28.000 It was called the Mortgage Rental Assistance Program.

00:03:30.000 So we'd take their cases there.

00:03:33.000 There was this combined charity called the Unmet Needs Table where you would take a client and present the case.

00:03:42.000 They lost this income or they lost a family member so they lost this for assistance.

00:03:48.000 So we were like their representative.

00:03:50.000 And you would take their case.

00:03:52.000 Their case would be approved for the Unmet Needs Table.

00:03:54.000 And it was a bunch of charities that came together and they would sit.

00:03:56.000 It would be like Catholic Charities, Lutheran Social Service, and you know, a bunch of charities, and they would dole out money and assistance to people who were affected.

00:04:04.000 There was a lot of people, particularly first responders, that were deeply affected by 9-11 because of all the chemicals and the residue and the shit that was in the air because of the explosions and the collapsing of the buildings.

00:04:17.000 Yeah. 0.77

00:04:18.000 Did they ever provide them relief?

00:04:19.000 I know Jon Stewart was actively campaigning for that.

00:04:22.000 I remember he was making...

00:04:23.000 Which is crazy that that's an issue. 0.97

00:04:25.000 20 fucking years later that they're still talking about that. 0.98

00:04:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:04:29.000 I don't know.

00:04:30.000 I mean, when I... I got so burnt out from all that, I kind of just switched off after I was done.

00:04:34.000 And what I was doing was like so close to the...

00:04:38.000 To the event.

00:04:39.000 It was, like, right after.

00:04:40.000 It was, like, you know, I started, what was it, the beginning of 2002?

00:04:42.000 So it was mostly just, like, emergency assistance.

00:04:47.000 Like, people were all...

00:04:48.000 I remember my first day on the job, like, I'd never done social work, whatever.

00:04:52.000 The first, you know, I was 22, 23 or something.

00:04:55.000 And first day on the job, this dude, he was a pastry chef at Windows on the World.

00:05:01.000 And I met him.

00:05:02.000 He was a new client.

00:05:02.000 I met him in this little, like, cubby, you know, Meeting room and he started crying to me.

00:05:10.000 You know, he was off that day and the survivor guilt and like he lost all his friends and I was just sitting there as a kid going like, all right, man, you need a coffee or something?

00:05:20.000 I didn't know what to do.

00:05:21.000 Like I was just not good at it yet.

00:05:23.000 How old were you?

00:05:23.000 23 something, 22, 23. Yeah.

00:05:25.000 Jesus.

00:05:26.000 Yeah.

00:05:26.000 And then, dude, when you do social work, they call it counter transference, I think is the official term for it.

00:05:32.000 We're like...

00:05:33.000 If you're an empathetic person, you start taking it home with you.

00:05:36.000 And that started happening to me.

00:05:38.000 Because these people were getting evicted.

00:05:40.000 They lost their job or they worked at the Millennium Hotel, I think it was called, which was right across the street.

00:05:45.000 I had a lot of clients that worked there.

00:05:46.000 And then you go home and you start worrying about, like, dude, I got to get this money from the MN needs table.

00:05:50.000 I got to get them the MRA program or else they're going to get evicted. 0.64

00:05:53.000 You start taking it on.

00:05:54.000 And that's when I started having panic attacks.

00:05:56.000 And it was an interesting time.

00:05:59.000 Well, I can only imagine.

00:06:00.000 Of course you would take it on.

00:06:02.000 Or you would become numb if you did it too often.

00:06:05.000 And that's the dilemma the police officers face, right? 0.99

00:06:09.000 I mean, if you're dealing with domestic violence case after domestic violence case after homicide, after murder-suicide, you know, over and over and over again, you're fucking seeing this shit every day, all day. 0.99

00:06:22.000 Like, how do you not take some of it home with you? 0.99

00:06:25.000 You do. 0.50

00:06:27.000 I mean, unless you're a psychopath, which is a real advantage in life. 0.95

00:06:31.000 It's an advantage of your CEO, apparently.

00:06:33.000 They say that's one of the biggest character traits for successful CEOs.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 Comics?

00:06:40.000 Psychopaths?

00:06:40.000 You think so?

00:06:41.000 I mean, yeah, some. 0.99

00:06:42.000 Sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissists.

00:06:44.000 But don't you think they have to be good? 0.77

00:06:45.000 To be a good comic, you have to resonate with people in some way.

00:06:48.000 You have to be at least somewhat compassionate.

00:06:50.000 All the good guys that we know, the guys who are good, none of them are sociopaths or psychopaths.

00:06:55.000 Or if they are, they're really good at it.

00:06:57.000 I mean, you know, if you think about it, we share our skill sets very similar to dictators.

00:07:03.000 We get up there, we move crowds, you know, we get people to believe.

00:07:08.000 I mean, that kid used to crush.

00:07:10.000 I mean, say what you want.

00:07:11.000 He was a headliner. 1.00

00:07:12.000 He was a fucking headliner. 1.00

00:07:13.000 Yeah, you try going up after him. 1.00

00:07:14.000 Imagine having to go on after Hitler. 0.88

00:07:17.000 Yeah.

00:07:18.000 Especially in Germany.

00:07:19.000 Yeah.

00:07:19.000 You know, in his own town.

00:07:21.000 Yeah.

00:07:22.000 He came up in tough rooms, those beer rooms.

00:07:26.000 He came up in bars.

00:07:28.000 Yeah.

00:07:28.000 He came up like a New York comic.

00:07:30.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 Oh, my God.

00:07:32.000 He did.

00:07:33.000 And he was on Coke.

00:07:35.000 Yeah, he was on all types of stuff.

00:07:36.000 Coked up.

00:07:37.000 They shot him full of testosterone and cocaine.

00:07:40.000 Yeah.

00:07:40.000 Sent him up there.

00:07:41.000 Get up for that.

00:07:43.000 I wish I could speak German to really understand the impact of his words, to get it from the actual language itself.

00:07:51.000 Because if a guy was up there crushing like that in English, it would be very disturbing. 0.95

00:07:55.000 Especially if you knew that this guy was a totalitarian dictator who was going to lead his people to a fucking disastrous war, a war based around race and creating a master race. 0.98

00:08:06.000 I mean, that's a fucking crazy, dystopian, terrifying thing that happened 80 years ago. 0.99

00:08:12.000 Wild to think. 0.99

00:08:13.000 Wild!

00:08:14.000 It's so recent, man.

00:08:15.000 Yeah, it's very recent. 1.00

00:08:16.000 And it really hits home with this Putin shit. 0.99

00:08:18.000 Because now, you know, when you're seeing Putin invade Ukraine, you're going, oh, this can happen again. 1.00

00:08:24.000 This is a thing.

00:08:25.000 This is a thing that people do occasionally.

00:08:28.000 Yeah, people need to realize dictators...

00:08:31.000 They have a modus operandi.

00:08:33.000 They have a personality type.

00:08:34.000 They don't change.

00:08:35.000 Right.

00:08:36.000 Putin's not like, I'm good, you know?

00:08:38.000 No.

00:08:38.000 You take Ukraine, I'll take Russia.

00:08:40.000 It's not like...

00:08:40.000 He's said it many times.

00:08:42.000 He's like, I want more.

00:08:44.000 I want the former glory of the USSR. The worst thing that ever happened was the breakup of this thing. 0.89

00:08:49.000 And, you know, there's a perspective that he had that maybe what's preventing him from that...

00:08:53.000 Is the NATO alliance.

00:08:54.000 I know it's going to get a lot of hate for people saying that because people love Putin now, apparently.

00:08:59.000 Do they really?

00:09:00.000 And there's a lot of people who are like, ah, yeah, we're provoking him by being on the border.

00:09:05.000 It's like there's a bunch of countries that are on the border already.

00:09:08.000 And it's like those countries joined because they're scared of Russia.

00:09:11.000 Russia has expanded.

00:09:12.000 Ask Finnish people which do they prefer, the United States.

00:09:16.000 You know, we're still the good guy here.

00:09:18.000 Yeah.

00:09:18.000 We're still the good guy.

00:09:19.000 We are the citizens.

00:09:21.000 Our ideology is.

00:09:22.000 But when you think about the stuff that our government is doing, I mean, how about, you know, don't get Dave Smith started about the war in Yemen. 0.98

00:09:29.000 You'll find out deep details about the illegal war in Yemen and the bombings and just how many people we fucking kill with drones.

00:09:35.000 There was a chart that showed, and this is not, you know, an anti-American statement, but it's just like there's a thing about military.

00:09:42.000 There's a thing about war and strategy.

00:09:45.000 And this whole NATO thing mixed with Putin.

00:09:49.000 You know, the thing that they were worried about is the literal thing that he's doing. 0.98

00:09:52.000 He's invading Ukraine and blowing up fucking apartment buildings and shooting missiles into cities and taking over cities. 0.98

00:10:00.000 It's kind of like I told you so. 0.96

00:10:02.000 It's like they were worried about him expanding his range of power, and so they wanted to, you know, there's talk about them wanting to join NATO and wanting to join the EU, and people are like, well, that's provoking them, but isn't this like what they were worried about?

00:10:18.000 Right.

00:10:18.000 Like, when you see him move in, is it provoking him?

00:10:21.000 Like, look what he's doing. 0.96

00:10:22.000 He's doing exactly what we're fucking terrified of a guy like him doing.

00:10:27.000 Yeah, he knows we're not gonna invade because of the mutually assured destruction and also nobody ever invades Russia and gets out alive. 0.54

00:10:33.000 Dude, I used to think it was mutually assured destruction until I talked to Mike Baker, who's a former CIA operative, and I use the word former in quotes.

00:10:43.000 He told me that they have hypersonic weapons now.

00:10:47.000 And he goes, this whole idea of mutually assured destruction was based on the concept that if we got word that Russia had launched its missiles, we would also launch our missiles.

00:10:55.000 We had like 20 minutes to do so, and then everybody would get blown up.

00:10:59.000 He goes, no.

00:10:59.000 He goes, now these hypersonic missiles, not only do they move faster than the speed of sound, but you can't detect where they're going because they can change course in midair.

00:11:07.000 So you're shooting it towards Chicago and it just hooks a left turn and lands in New York City You have no idea where it's going or how to prepare it and it's moving fast in the speed of sound so all that shit that I mean, I don't know if the Iron Dome that the Israelis have, 0.89

00:11:23.000 I don't think that's capable of stopping hypersonic weapons, is it? 0.76

00:11:27.000 I don't know.

00:11:27.000 It sounds like the ways of missiles.

00:11:29.000 It's like, all right, let's take a left here.

00:11:31.000 This one's blocked.

00:11:31.000 Yeah, exact ways.

00:11:33.000 Yeah, it seems like the response time, you would have to have like a few seconds.

00:11:40.000 I mean, you have, I don't know how, like from the speed of sound, how long does it take to go from Moscow to Manhattan?

00:11:46.000 Let's find that out.

00:11:48.000 Something more feasible.

00:11:51.000 Moscow to Seattle.

00:11:52.000 Like, Moscow to Seattle is a quick hop and a jump, right?

00:11:55.000 But we got those too, right?

00:11:56.000 We have supersonic...

00:11:57.000 I don't think we do yet.

00:11:58.000 Uh-oh.

00:11:59.000 Allegedly.

00:12:00.000 I don't think we do.

00:12:00.000 Only China and Russia have them, supposedly.

00:12:03.000 That's not good.

00:12:04.000 And they've been firing them, right?

00:12:06.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 Well, Putin launched one in Ukraine.

00:12:08.000 Yeah.

00:12:09.000 You know, just to make sure it works.

00:12:10.000 Dictators be dictators. 0.93

00:12:12.000 27 times the speed of sound.

00:12:13.000 Oh my god.

00:12:15.000 According to this article in the Seattle Times.

00:12:17.000 Oh my god.

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 27 times the speed of sound is insane.

00:12:22.000 How much time would it take for one of those missiles to hit Seattle from Russia?

00:12:28.000 I'm a guess.

00:12:29.000 Let's guess.

00:12:29.000 15 seconds.

00:12:31.000 I'm gonna say 17 seconds just we have two different answers.

00:12:34.000 Because I have no idea.

00:12:35.000 I'm just guessing.

00:12:37.000 Me too.

00:12:37.000 I mean, that many times faster than speed of sound.

00:12:44.000 I'm trying to do the math on it.

00:12:45.000 Well, it's just not coming up in the article that way.

00:12:48.000 So the speed of sound is, it's like, that's Mach 1 or whatever.

00:12:52.000 It's 323 meters per second.

00:12:55.000 When I type that in, times, you know, I'm trying to get on the screen.

00:13:00.000 Times 27 in December, I claimed it could reach Mach 27, which is 20,500 miles per hour.

00:13:09.000 Oh! 0.99

00:13:09.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:13:10.000 That's a quick flight. 1.00

00:13:11.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:13:12.000 So that's basically the whole world in an hour. 0.99

00:13:17.000 Right?

00:13:18.000 Am I right about that?

00:13:18.000 Let me hit the distance from Moscow to Russia so we can see how long it is.

00:13:22.000 I think that's right.

00:13:23.000 The world is 24,000 miles around, isn't it?

00:13:27.000 Because it's 24 hours to spin for a whole cycle of a day.

00:13:32.000 It's like you're looking at a fish asking what it's like to breathe air.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, but I'm a fish too. 1.00

00:13:37.000 I'm a moron too. 1.00

00:13:38.000 I'm just guessing. 1.00

00:13:39.000 I should just agree.

00:13:41.000 Like, we're smart.

00:13:41.000 Like, yeah, absolutely.

00:13:42.000 But it depends on the elements, of course.

00:13:44.000 While you're doing a podcast, you're juggling so many things in your head and trying to manage the conversation and then also do math.

00:13:50.000 8,365 kilometers.

00:13:52.000 Okay.

00:13:53.000 So if it's going 24...

00:13:55.000 33,000 kilometers.

00:13:57.000 That's like a quarter of it.

00:13:58.000 Oh, my God.

00:13:59.000 15 minutes?

00:14:00.000 15 minutes.

00:14:01.000 Is that the metric system, kilometers?

00:14:02.000 Yeah.

00:14:03.000 So you have 15 minutes.

00:14:04.000 Is there a Canadian we can ask?

00:14:07.000 I don't know if that's right.

00:14:08.000 15 minutes seems...

00:14:10.000 Well, whatever it is.

00:14:11.000 It's quick.

00:14:12.000 You don't have time.

00:14:13.000 You don't have, like, an hour.

00:14:14.000 Putin's strapped.

00:14:16.000 He's strapped, and so is China. 0.99

00:14:18.000 Yeah.

00:14:18.000 They're both strapped.

00:14:19.000 Do they know jujitsu, though?

00:14:20.000 Oh, Putin does.

00:14:21.000 He does.

00:14:22.000 Putin knows judo.

00:14:22.000 Yeah.

00:14:23.000 Yeah, he's a legit black belt in judo.

00:14:25.000 Because it may come hand-to-hand.

00:14:27.000 Who has more, like, dudes who are ready?

00:14:31.000 Like, if it gets hand-to-hand... 0.99

00:14:32.000 Well, I mean, it's a numbers game because Russians are hard fucking people. 0.99

00:14:40.000 They are hard human beings. 0.98

00:14:42.000 Some of the Russians that are fighting in the UFC right now are just dominating.

00:14:45.000 There's so many guys from Dagestan that are crushing people. 1.00

00:14:49.000 There's guys from All sorts, that whole area. 0.99

00:14:52.000 Chechnya has a lot of fucking, one of the top guys right now is from Chechnya. 0.98

00:14:55.000 This guy, Hamzat Shemaev. 0.99

00:14:58.000 There's, you know, obviously, Khabib Nurmagomedov, who's the GOAT. He's from Dagestan.

00:15:04.000 There's a ton of guys from Dagestan.

00:15:06.000 And Russia always seems to have just, like, millions of people to throw at death during a war. 0.82

00:15:11.000 That's the thing.

00:15:12.000 Anytime you read about anything in history that has to do with Russian war, it's just like, and a million Russians died.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, we had a guy the other day that was telling us they have a mobile crematorium.

00:15:22.000 So they're just throwing their corpses into this incinerator.

00:15:26.000 So there's no account of how many dead.

00:15:29.000 They don't have a real good count because they're getting wiped out.

00:15:33.000 Because what he's explaining to us was that the roads into Kiev, you have to take those roads.

00:15:40.000 You can't go around because the ground is all mud right now.

00:15:43.000 So if they took the tanks and all these armored vehicles off-road, they would all get bogged down in the mud.

00:15:49.000 So they see them coming. 0.97

00:15:51.000 So these guys just stand on the side of the road and hide behind buildings and launch fucking missiles and rockets at these armored carriers and blow these things up left and right. 0.99

00:16:01.000 So these guys are dying. 0.99

00:16:03.000 But they're also killing a shitload of civilians too. 0.98

00:16:06.000 That's the horrible part.

00:16:06.000 That's why it's like the people of the world should demand like, alright, You want Donbass and whatever the other region is and Crimea, no civilians, no more soldiers fighting, no more kids dying.

00:16:19.000 It's Putin vs.

00:16:21.000 Biden.

00:16:22.000 That's it.

00:16:22.000 Well, we lose.

00:16:23.000 No, we win, Duke.

00:16:24.000 You got that wrong.

00:16:25.000 How does Biden win? 0.74

00:16:26.000 He's a white walker, dude.

00:16:27.000 You don't watch Game of Thrones?

00:16:29.000 Who are you putting your money on?

00:16:31.000 Jon Snow or the dude who's from the dead?

00:16:33.000 Can you imagine if they actually made leaders fight?

00:16:38.000 We'd have a real problem.

00:16:39.000 The mountain would be the king of the world from Game of Thrones.

00:16:42.000 Yeah.

00:16:44.000 He would be the king of the world.

00:16:45.000 Yeah.

00:16:46.000 He would be our king.

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 That's the way it should happen, though, right?

00:16:49.000 Shouldn't it be just like a commission fight?

00:16:51.000 Well, if we had to...

00:16:53.000 Like, we don't have...

00:16:55.000 Like, who's the best person, the best representative of the United States?

00:17:00.000 Well, you'd have to use Francis Ngannou.

00:17:02.000 I mean, he's from Cameroon, but he is, like, at least officially, he's the UFC heavyweight champion and lives in America.

00:17:10.000 Oh, yeah, you could do it.

00:17:11.000 He fights for America.

00:17:11.000 America, we claim, yeah.

00:17:13.000 We'd have to.

00:17:14.000 Hillary Clinton became a senator in New York.

00:17:15.000 She was there like a day.

00:17:16.000 That's true.

00:17:17.000 Yeah, Ngannou's American now.

00:17:19.000 He's American.

00:17:19.000 If you've got skills, you're American.

00:17:20.000 If you want to be here, you're American.

00:17:22.000 No, we tighten him up, give him a nice bag.

00:17:24.000 Yeah, we work on his accent a little bit.

00:17:26.000 Sound like he's from Chicago.

00:17:27.000 Keep that accent.

00:17:28.000 We take everybody here.

00:17:29.000 We're America.

00:17:30.000 That's the thing about America.

00:17:31.000 You can have an accent and be American.

00:17:33.000 We're a melting pot.

00:17:34.000 We should embrace his accent.

00:17:36.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:17:37.000 He's an amazing guy.

00:17:38.000 You ever listen to his story?

00:17:39.000 I just know that he's...

00:17:41.000 I know he's not rich.

00:17:43.000 I know he didn't come from riches.

00:17:44.000 Nobody is that good.

00:17:46.000 Way crazier than that. 0.65

00:17:47.000 He made his way from Cameroon to Morocco.

00:17:51.000 It took 14 months.

00:17:53.000 He basically did it on foot, hitching rides, paying people to take him across the desert, and then they would get in rafts and go from Morocco to Europe.

00:18:04.000 Seven times he got arrested and every time they would arrest you they would drop you off in the desert hoping you would die so they take you deep into the desert drop you off and he made it back to the fucking border every single time and the way he detailed it on my podcast it was like this Harrowing long story that you can't believe is real,

00:18:24.000 but you know is real. 0.96

00:18:25.000 It's so crazy.

00:18:27.000 He's got like a life story of Bane from Batman.

00:18:29.000 He's a superhero from a movie.

00:18:31.000 He's a guy from a movie when you hear what he did.

00:18:34.000 He worked in a sand mine when he was 11 years old.

00:18:37.000 Wow. 0.98

00:18:37.000 It's one of the reasons why he's so fucking strong. 0.98

00:18:39.000 I mean, obviously, he's 6'5 or 6'6, incredible genetics, but on top of that, as a child, worked in a fucking sand mine, just digging sand as a small boy, just strengthening. 0.98

00:18:52.000 Like, it's like a Conan scene. 0.89

00:18:54.000 When Conan was on the wheel in that movie, like, pushing the wheel through the sand.

00:19:00.000 That's our king.

00:19:01.000 Yeah.

00:19:02.000 I think you just made a pretty good argument.

00:19:05.000 Yeah, that's our king.

00:19:06.000 Imagine Putin.

00:19:07.000 Is he the baddest dude in the world?

00:19:08.000 100%.

00:19:09.000 100%.

00:19:09.000 Like there's nobody in the world that could take him.

00:19:11.000 No.

00:19:12.000 No one in the world in an MMA fight, you know, they're talking about him fighting Tyson Fury in a boxing match, which I fully support, just because I want him to make a lot of money, but in an MMA fight, he would murder Tyson Fury.

00:19:26.000 It wouldn't last long.

00:19:27.000 It wouldn't last long.

00:19:28.000 He would kick his legs one or two times, and Tyson Fury would be incapacitated.

00:19:32.000 He would clinch him up against the fence, elbow him in the head.

00:19:35.000 If he took him to the ground, whatever he did. 1.00

00:19:38.000 Once it's in the MMA realm, Everybody's fucked. 1.00

00:19:43.000 You put him in a cage, everybody's fucked. 1.00

00:19:45.000 Give him a five-minute round, everybody's fucked. 1.00

00:19:47.000 He's going to crush everybody. 0.99

00:19:48.000 He's too big, too strong, and he's become clever, and he's got really good coaching now.

00:19:54.000 His fight against Stipe Miocic, the first fight, he thought he was just going to knock him out and he lost the decision.

00:19:59.000 But the second fight, he showed composure and poise and patience and a great game plan and just destroyed Stipe.

00:20:07.000 Stipe also made a mistake when he thought after he got up, right, he clipped him a little bit.

00:20:12.000 He thought he heard him.

00:20:13.000 He thought he heard him and then he opened himself up, yeah.

00:20:16.000 But that's just Stipe.

00:20:17.000 You know, Stipe's just a warrior.

00:20:18.000 He's always looking for openings.

00:20:19.000 He's looking to turn the tide.

00:20:21.000 But Francis is just too powerful.

00:20:23.000 It's just like, it's also the difference between a guy who's like a natural 240, 235, 240, and a guy who's a natural 270. Yeah.

00:20:32.000 That's what Francis...

00:20:33.000 Francis loses weight to make the...

00:20:34.000 UFC has a heavyweight limit of 265, and Francis loses weight to make 265. Natural.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, but let's just say Stipe did beat him once, so that does speak to how tough a place Cleveland is.

00:20:48.000 I mean, I'm playing there soon, and Cleveland looks a little like Cameroon right now. 0.98

00:20:51.000 Well, it's also Croatians. 1.00

00:20:53.000 Stipe's got those fucking Croatian genes. 1.00

00:20:55.000 Eastern European, yeah. 1.00

00:20:56.000 He's an animal. 0.98

00:20:57.000 That Eastern block down there. 1.00

00:20:58.000 But, you know, he's also, he's like, he's out of some fucking wars, man. 0.97

00:21:01.000 And I think that first fight with Francis took a lot out of Stipe. 0.97

00:21:05.000 Yeah.

00:21:05.000 I think it took a lot out of him.

00:21:07.000 I think there's certain fights where a guy's really never going to be the same again after the fight.

00:21:12.000 That's probably one of them.

00:21:14.000 If I was fighting in Ghanu, if I was training someone to fight in Ghanu, The first thing I would do is be like, don't read anything about him.

00:21:22.000 I don't want you to know his story. 0.81

00:21:24.000 My advice would just be like, cover your head up and let him hit you in the body. 0.99

00:21:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:30.000 Let it be over. 1.00

00:21:31.000 Take that body shot and just fucking go down. 1.00

00:21:35.000 Hope he doesn't finish you off with a hammer fist to the jaw where you have to drink out of a fucking straw for the next three months. 1.00

00:21:42.000 Remember Peter McNeely when he fought Mike Tyson? 1.00

00:21:44.000 He just ran at him and was like, I'm going to try this once.

00:21:46.000 And then he's just like, okay, I'm going down.

00:21:48.000 That's it.

00:21:48.000 He clipped Tyson a couple of times.

00:21:50.000 I mean, that was Tyson fresh out of the joint.

00:21:52.000 Yeah, you just gotta hope to get lucky with one swing and then you're going down.

00:21:56.000 There's no lucky with Tyson.

00:21:57.000 You ain't getting lucky because he can get hit with a missile. 1.00

00:22:00.000 His head is so fucking thick. 1.00

00:22:02.000 Like, his jaw is so thick. 0.99

00:22:05.000 His structure of his neck is so thick.

00:22:08.000 Like, he was such a shock absorber for punches.

00:22:12.000 Like, Tyson got hit with bombs.

00:22:13.000 Even in the fight he lost to Buster Douglas, look at how many times he got hit before he went down.

00:22:19.000 Vandr.

00:22:20.000 Vandr.

00:22:20.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 He was big shots before he went down, whereas most people would have been taken out by one of those.

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 He takes a gang of them before.

00:22:28.000 He's like in a movie, or in a video game, rather, when you get to the final boss, and you've got to do everything you can to beat that guy.

00:22:37.000 It required so much.

00:22:39.000 Yeah.

00:22:39.000 Yeah, he was like a freak show of speed and power.

00:22:45.000 Technique.

00:22:46.000 Technique, the whole, his head movement.

00:22:47.000 Yeah, everything.

00:22:48.000 He would just come in on you and then that move, it was like that patented Tyson, what was it, body shot and then uppercut.

00:22:56.000 It was like boom, boom.

00:22:57.000 Yep, right to the body.

00:22:58.000 You didn't even see the uppercut because it was below your eyes.

00:23:01.000 And your body was still quivering from that body shot.

00:23:03.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.000 And also, it's crazy that just the amount of synchronicity, like how everything just worked out perfectly with him.

00:23:12.000 Not perfectly, but you know, like when he was 13 years old, he's this kid who weighs 190 pounds at 13 years old, which is just insane.

00:23:21.000 He was a tank.

00:23:23.000 And he was relatively short for a heavyweight.

00:23:26.000 He was only like 5'10", 5'11".

00:23:28.000 And then he meets Customato, who had invented a specific style called the peekaboo style, which was criticized by a lot of people.

00:23:36.000 They didn't think it was a good style, where you keep your hands up like this, and you're moving like that, and a lot of bobbing and weaving, which was the perfect style for his body type.

00:23:44.000 And Customato literally had mastered that style, and it was basically his invention.

00:23:52.000 Was Tyson, like, the one guy who really took that style to a championship?

00:23:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:59.000 Well, I mean, other guys had that style and they did it, but Cuss had a lot of really great fighters.

00:24:03.000 Like, he had Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres.

00:24:06.000 He had very good fighters that came out of his camp, but as he was an old man, he meets this young prodigy.

00:24:14.000 That's Tyson.

00:24:15.000 Yeah.

00:24:16.000 I mean, it was the perfect combination of a guy who's not just a man who knows so much about boxing, who had been around forever, but he was also a psychologist who was a hypnotist.

00:24:27.000 So he was a master of psychological preparation, and he would hypnotize Tyson when he was young, and he would tell him, you don't exist.

00:24:36.000 It's just the task.

00:24:38.000 The task exists.

00:24:39.000 He turned him into a Terminator.

00:24:41.000 A Terminator. 1.00

00:24:42.000 Yeah, and he would kill it all. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Bro, he was a Terminator. 0.98

00:24:45.000 Dude, that photo, he was a mean-looking dude.

00:24:47.000 I wanted to hand that photo my milk money right there.

00:24:50.000 I was like, take my wallet.

00:24:52.000 And that's a young Tyson.

00:24:53.000 That's a young Tyson.

00:24:54.000 I think he's got an amateur t-shirt on, so he might have been fighting in the amateurs back then.

00:24:59.000 He's a tough dude.

00:25:00.000 Yeah, he doesn't even look like he was capable of smiling during that time.

00:25:03.000 It's funny because I follow him now, and he's like the wisest guy.

00:25:06.000 He's always dropping gems.

00:25:08.000 Well, he thinks, man.

00:25:09.000 He's always contemplating.

00:25:10.000 I mean, even back when he was fighting, he read a lot about conquerors.

00:25:15.000 He and I got in this long discussion about Genghis Khan.

00:25:20.000 He knows his real name, which is Temujin.

00:25:22.000 He rattled off all this data on Genghis Khan.

00:25:26.000 He's read extensively on Alexander the Great and all these crazy conquerors.

00:25:31.000 That mindset, he applied a lot of their historical writings and all the things that you learn about these conquerors.

00:25:39.000 He applied that to his fighting.

00:25:41.000 It's amazing.

00:25:42.000 And I guess with Customato kind of focused him.

00:25:45.000 Because where he's from, Brownsville, I mean, the tough upbringing he had.

00:25:50.000 It makes me realize how much of life is...

00:25:55.000 To control your emotions because we're not reasonable animals.

00:25:59.000 We have the capability of reason and being rational, but we are emotional animals.

00:26:04.000 Our innate instincts are to be emotional.

00:26:07.000 You have to learn logic and reason and to think you have to learn that.

00:26:12.000 It's not innate.

00:26:13.000 Well, we're primates.

00:26:14.000 That's why we're prone to dictators because it's all emotion.

00:26:17.000 They just appeal to your emotion.

00:26:18.000 It's all that, but it's also like if you look at primate cultures, there's always an alpha.

00:26:23.000 There's a big silverback gorilla.

00:26:24.000 There's always an alpha chimp that runs the entire pack of chimps.

00:26:28.000 We always have a great leader.

00:26:31.000 And throughout history, human beings have had tribal leaders.

00:26:34.000 You've had a leader of the tribe that was usually the oldest warrior, the strongest warrior, who had experienced the most, and he would lead the young that were coming up, and they would defend their tribe against invaders.

00:26:47.000 That's part of our history.

00:26:48.000 Do you think what's maybe going wrong in America with freedom is that because of advertising, because of marketing and how it controls America and how much they market to the youth because that's the coveted demographic, That we've sort of empowered the youth and now even boomers are pejorative.

00:27:08.000 People use your age when you're older as like a pejorative.

00:27:12.000 Like, you're old, but isn't it like, dude, yeah, I'm old. 1.00

00:27:15.000 I know more shit than you. 1.00

00:27:16.000 Yeah, but those people are idiots. 1.00

00:27:17.000 People who do that, you're old. 1.00

00:27:19.000 Well, I mean, actually, that's not true because sometimes people are old and they're stuck in their way.

00:27:24.000 They're stuck in the way that they were.

00:27:27.000 You know, they're stuck in the day.

00:27:28.000 Oh, back in my day, if you wanted to talk on the phone, you had to stay next to the cord. 1.00

00:27:32.000 You know, like there's some stupid shit like that. 0.99

00:27:35.000 But there's, you know, there's different kinds of old people. 1.00

00:27:40.000 There's old people that are wise and there are old people that are young idiots that just survived. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Good point. 1.00

00:27:46.000 But the wise ones at least should be revered, no?

00:27:50.000 There's got to be some sort of system where you revere experience.

00:27:54.000 Yeah.

00:27:54.000 But they have to have respect, too.

00:27:57.000 Like, they have to respect the young people, too. 0.99

00:27:58.000 And that's the thing that sometimes people, when they get older, they automatically want respect from young people just because they've lived longer, which is stupid. 0.99

00:28:08.000 Right. 1.00

00:28:08.000 There's old idiots, you know? 1.00

00:28:10.000 There's old people that are just dumb as fuck. 1.00

00:28:13.000 And they just manage... 1.00

00:28:14.000 Because we have a relatively cushy existence.

00:28:18.000 For most people, food's not hard to get.

00:28:22.000 A decent job where you can pay your rent, not that hard to get.

00:28:26.000 This is a time of unprecedented job opportunities.

00:28:30.000 So many people have quit their jobs during the pandemic, which is really wild.

00:28:34.000 Because I don't know where they're getting their money.

00:28:36.000 I don't know either.

00:28:37.000 But yeah, this is the most comfortable time to be alive.

00:28:39.000 The amenities of modernity are sweet.

00:28:41.000 They're pretty sweet.

00:28:42.000 When you get food delivered to your house, you don't even have to look the guy in the eye.

00:28:46.000 You just crack the door open and pull your food in like a prisoner in solitary confinement.

00:28:50.000 So there's older folks That deserve deep respect.

00:28:55.000 Like there's the Cornel Wests of the world that deserve deep respect.

00:28:59.000 They've experienced so much and they're so wise and they're older. 1.00

00:29:03.000 And then there's old people that are just morons. 1.00

00:29:07.000 They're just morons that because of all these incredible... 0.99

00:29:13.000 Inventions and the advances of society and medicine and the availability of food, they've managed to make it to 75. But they're a fucking dummy. 1.00

00:29:23.000 They're a dumb 23-year-old that just kept living. 1.00

00:29:26.000 There's a lot of that. 1.00

00:29:28.000 I used to have a bit about that, about old assholes were assholes when they were young. 1.00

00:29:32.000 They just survived. 1.00

00:29:33.000 This idea like, you show me respect.

00:29:36.000 You don't deserve respect just because you're old.

00:29:39.000 Some people deserve respect.

00:29:40.000 I have a theory too, I don't know, it's a little different though, that nobody, you can't really tell who a person really is until they're old because that's when they show their true colors because it's easy to be nice and everything when you're young, hot, fuckable, able-bodied, you know, but like when you get older and you lose all that,

00:29:57.000 if you're still cool, Then you were really cool. 0.97

00:30:00.000 Because a lot of people turn into bitter dicks when they can't do all the things that they used to do. 1.00

00:30:07.000 I've spent a lot of time in nursing homes with my parents and a lot of those people are dicks. 1.00

00:30:12.000 And they were probably really cool when they were able-bodied and fuckable. 1.00

00:30:16.000 Maybe. 0.99

00:30:16.000 Maybe not. 0.99

00:30:17.000 Maybe they always sucked. 1.00

00:30:20.000 You know? 0.99

00:30:20.000 I mean, it's... 0.99

00:30:23.000 The thing about getting older is...

00:30:27.000 The biggest shift is hot women. 1.00

00:30:30.000 When a hot woman goes from being a hot 25-year-old to being a completely unattractive 60-year-old. 1.00

00:30:41.000 No one wants to have sex with you. 1.00

00:30:43.000 Everybody wants to have sex with you. 1.00

00:30:44.000 Imagine if your personality was based. 1.00

00:30:46.000 A lot of these insta-hoes, think about the fucking future that they're looking at. 1.00

00:30:50.000 Because if you look at them when they're 25, their entire existence is about... 0.99

00:30:55.000 You know, videos of them doing squats from behind and, you know, inspirational quotes and music, and they're just flooded with attention. 0.98

00:31:03.000 Their inbox must look like a tsunami of dicks just flying at them, right? 0.99

00:31:10.000 80 fucking 5,000 miles an hour. 0.99

00:31:13.000 It's like I'd seen in the Bible. 0.99

00:31:13.000 Instead of frogs, it's just dicks raining on the deck. 0.99

00:31:16.000 I mean, if you're one of those gals that has like, you know, there's a bunch of those gals that have like millions of Instagram followers and they're just hot as the sun and just doing squats all day and deadlifts and great music and looking ahead all determined with their headphones on and just,

00:31:32.000 they absorb themselves in their phone all day long.

00:31:35.000 It's like checking out how many people are paying attention to them, checking out how many likes they're getting, how many messages they're getting.

00:31:41.000 When you go from that To 40 years later when you're 65, 40 years happens quick.

00:31:48.000 Yeah.

00:31:48.000 It really does.

00:31:49.000 It doesn't seem like it happens quick because 40 years from now, if you had to hold your breath, it seems like a long time.

00:31:54.000 But time just keeps going.

00:31:56.000 And after a while, you look back and you're 65. You're 65 and no one wants to fuck you. 1.00

00:32:01.000 Well, I think some of that depends on culture because I've spent a lot of time in Miami. 1.00

00:32:06.000 I lived down there for a year.

00:32:07.000 Those Latin women know how to keep it going. 1.00

00:32:11.000 J-Lo's a good example of that.

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:13.000 There's just something in that culture where they just keep that sexiness.

00:32:18.000 Like, you'll see a grandma... 1.00

00:32:20.000 Holding her grandkid, but she'll have, the ass will be propped up, she'll be walking like a regal 20-year-old, and the energy, like, I want to fuck her. 1.00

00:32:29.000 Really? 1.00

00:32:30.000 Even though she's 70, I want to fuck her. 1.00

00:32:31.000 What's the oldest lady you would fuck? 1.00

00:32:33.000 It depends on where. 1.00

00:32:34.000 In Wisconsin, 40. And even then, it'll be like, what do they do?

00:32:41.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of it would be weight-based, I think, also.

00:32:46.000 How rude.

00:32:47.000 Don't you know that body positivity... 0.58

00:32:50.000 Dude, I just came from San Antonio, so, I mean...

00:32:51.000 What's it like down there?

00:32:53.000 It's hard to fit in that city.

00:32:54.000 How so?

00:32:55.000 It's just that people are big.

00:32:56.000 The population's not huge, but they're just big folks.

00:32:58.000 A lot of food?

00:32:59.000 A lot of food there, Texas size, and the people are big.

00:33:01.000 Texas people eat a lot.

00:33:02.000 Yeah, they eat a lot, and the people are a little big, so it's like a crowded airport, even though there's not a lot of people.

00:33:07.000 I wonder if there's an index that shows people's body size in relationship to city, in relationship to how delicious their food is.

00:33:17.000 I'm sure there's gotta.

00:33:18.000 There must be.

00:33:19.000 There's gotta be.

00:33:20.000 Right?

00:33:20.000 Texas Big is a thing, for sure.

00:33:22.000 Like Terry Black's, you go and have barbecue there. 1.00

00:33:26.000 If you do that multiple times a week, you're gonna be a fat fuck. 1.00

00:33:28.000 You're gonna be a fat fuck. 1.00

00:33:29.000 Do you think food, because it becomes such a burden on the healthcare system and because You know, heart attacks and cardiac problems are such a big cause of death. 1.00

00:33:40.000 Do you think there should be like some sort of system where you have to earn to order the right food?

00:33:45.000 Like you go to get a burger and they punch up your name and they go, it's illegal for you.

00:33:50.000 Well, that's what...

00:33:51.000 The problem with that's...

00:33:52.000 You're basically talking about like a social credit system.

00:33:54.000 And that's a digital currency system is what...

00:33:57.000 More like a diet credit system.

00:33:58.000 Yeah, but the problem is you're telling people what they can and can't do with their money.

00:34:02.000 And ultimately, there's ways that the government is going to try to implement...

00:34:07.000 And I say the government.

00:34:08.000 Let's just say the Chinese government.

00:34:09.000 Chinese government has already implemented a social credit system.

00:34:12.000 And it's tied to digital currency.

00:34:14.000 It's tied to your currency.

00:34:15.000 So what it means is like...

00:34:17.000 You could go to buy something, and it'll say, no, your social credit is too low for you to be able to purchase this, whatever you want to watch. 0.96

00:34:24.000 You won't be able to do it, because you fucked up, or you talk badly about the government on Twitter. 0.88

00:34:29.000 Like, that is a real thing, and that's a real concern. 0.99

00:34:32.000 If you tied that to food, and tied that to, oh, you can't buy that cheeseburger. 0.96

00:34:37.000 What if I'm fucking hungry? 0.98

00:34:38.000 No. 0.99

00:34:39.000 I think you should have freedom. 1.00

00:34:41.000 And your freedom is also the freedom to become a fat fuck. 1.00

00:34:43.000 And if you have a burden on the healthcare system, I think it's on the government to try to educate people about the benefits of being healthy and not becoming a fat fuck and being alive to hang out with your grandchildren and hang out with your wife in your golden years. 1.00

00:34:59.000 The burden should be on education, not on punitive punishments like you can't have a fucking cheeseburger. 0.99

00:35:07.000 And who's telling me that? 0.99

00:35:08.000 Chris Christie, is he gonna tell me I can't have a cheeseburger?

00:35:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:11.000 No, he can't have a cheeseburger.

00:35:12.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.91

00:35:13.000 Like, who's gonna be the person, imagine if you have a fat governor. 0.65

00:35:16.000 You could do it, dude.

00:35:16.000 You're in shape AF. Yeah, but if you see what I eat, I eat like a fucking, like, three people.

00:35:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:22.000 I eat so much fucking food, dude. 1.00

00:35:24.000 But you eat lean, you know, and you gotta be doing something right. 1.00

00:35:27.000 Well, I work out like a terrorist.

00:35:28.000 Yeah.

00:35:30.000 That's pretty intense.

00:35:31.000 I eat a lot of food, man.

00:35:34.000 I mean, it's like, I'm a glutton.

00:35:35.000 I'm a legit glutton.

00:35:37.000 I have to curb my tendencies to overeat.

00:35:41.000 I eat a lot, too.

00:35:42.000 I have to curb mine, yeah.

00:35:44.000 I mean, I'm kidding, but it does make for a tidy society.

00:35:47.000 You have to admit the Chinese, it's tidy over there. 1.00

00:35:50.000 You throw a wrapper on the ground, then you disappear.

00:35:53.000 I mean, it works!

00:35:54.000 It does work in that way.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, it works in that way.

00:35:56.000 It's just not good for innovation.

00:35:58.000 It's not good for creativity.

00:36:00.000 It's immoral. 1.00

00:36:01.000 You gotta have wild people that do wild shit, and those crazy fucks, they create fun things. 1.00

00:36:09.000 They create fun times, fun experiences. 1.00

00:36:12.000 You have to have a world where you have the freedom to create a Joey Diaz.

00:36:17.000 You can't create a Joey Diaz in China.

00:36:20.000 They would've killed him when he was like 20. He would've never made it.

00:36:23.000 Or they would've made him emperor, because they would've just been like, I gotta hear this guy tell a story.

00:36:28.000 He could gather a crowd.

00:36:30.000 I mean, he could be dictator.

00:36:31.000 You know, he started doing stand-up in prison.

00:36:34.000 They would have a bad movie that would play, and they would say, Coco, get up there! 0.98

00:36:39.000 And he would just go up there and start telling stories.

00:36:41.000 And that's literally how he started thinking about doing stand-up professionally.

00:36:45.000 He's made for it with that voice.

00:36:47.000 He's just made for talking and entertaining.

00:36:50.000 He's the greatest.

00:36:51.000 He's the most entertaining person I've ever met in my life.

00:36:52.000 He's just great.

00:36:53.000 There's a lot of great comedians out there, and I don't think Joey's the best joke writer, but I think he's the funniest person.

00:36:59.000 He's the funniest person that's ever lived, that I've ever met.

00:37:02.000 Some people are just inherently funny.

00:37:04.000 It's like their vehicle is funny.

00:37:06.000 They're funny.

00:37:07.000 He's just one of those guys.

00:37:08.000 He's just a funny dude.

00:37:09.000 It's a human cartoon.

00:37:10.000 Yeah.

00:37:10.000 And he's wise.

00:37:11.000 He's a wise guy, man.

00:37:12.000 He's a wise man.

00:37:13.000 You talk to him.

00:37:14.000 Joey Diaz thinks about things that are very wise.

00:37:16.000 There's a reason why he doesn't want a text message.

00:37:20.000 He goes, I'm insecure.

00:37:21.000 I want to talk to you.

00:37:23.000 I want you to know I love you.

00:37:25.000 When I call you up, I want to hear your voice.

00:37:27.000 I want to say some nice things to you.

00:37:28.000 I want you to say some nice things to me.

00:37:30.000 We'll talk.

00:37:32.000 It's like that's wise because text messages are very impersonal.

00:37:35.000 It's funny that I can just picture him actually answering the phone for like credit, like when you get, because there's a lot of spam calls now when you give your number at like Banana Republic to get 10% off.

00:37:44.000 No, you can't call him like that.

00:37:45.000 I fall for every trick of that.

00:37:46.000 He's got the blocker on.

00:37:47.000 It'll go straight to the voicemail.

00:37:48.000 Because I just picture him going, making him have a conversation with him.

00:37:51.000 He doesn't want to talk to mutts.

00:37:53.000 He doesn't want to talk to just any schmo, but he, when you're his friend, you're his friend for life.

00:37:58.000 I'd do anything for that guy.

00:38:00.000 Anything.

00:38:00.000 I'd do anything for him.

00:38:02.000 We need more wisdom, though.

00:38:04.000 You said he's wise.

00:38:06.000 Democracy, do you think at a certain point it just kind of eats itself?

00:38:10.000 The representatives become... 0.99

00:38:13.000 Things get so free, people get stupid and lazy, and then the representatives become an actual, accurate reflection of the people. 0.97

00:38:21.000 And then you start to think of people like Plato and the Republic, and you start to go, maybe we need a wise guy, somebody who's tested from when he's young. 0.94

00:38:29.000 You know, his piety is sort of investigated and somebody like that to lead us as opposed to someone who's elected because the way people are elected like you know because Benjamin Franklin once said why one of my favorite quotes from history is like they asked him why he never ran for president he said just wanting the job would be suspect enough you know it's sort of like it's a moral flaw to be ambitious if because power corrupts and so is there something to like a reluctant leader that We should have,

00:38:57.000 you know?

00:38:58.000 Yeah, I think that's really the only type of person that would be really great at the job, was someone who did it reluctantly out of a feeling of service.

00:39:07.000 Like, they wanted to correct something that was wrong.

00:39:10.000 That's what the knuckleheads thought Trump was doing.

00:39:12.000 Like, that's why all that drain the swamp rhetoric worked, because people were like, yeah, he's gonna go in and clean it up.

00:39:18.000 All those people that have a rudimentary understanding of how politics works and how our system works and a representative democracy works.

00:39:25.000 They all thought that he was going to be the outsider that came in and cleaned everything up.

00:39:30.000 And to a certain extent, they were right. 0.84

00:39:32.000 I mean, it showed that a person can do that who is not a career politician and actually win if they have enough resources and enough charisma.

00:39:40.000 Enough of a lot of things a lot of pieces have to be in play a lot of people have to be fed up with the system That's currently in place and just disgusted with the lack of choices and the same Standard sort of politicians over and over again running into office, but he opened the door for someone who's maybe Of that cloth,

00:39:58.000 but not a narcissist and not a crazy egomaniac. 0.95

00:40:05.000 But that's also one of the reasons why he was successful because they would say all these horrible things about him and he would just fucking just brush it off. 0.97

00:40:12.000 He never aged a minute. 0.84

00:40:14.000 No.

00:40:14.000 Every other president.

00:40:15.000 Biden has aged a thousand years in the first one year in office. 0.98

00:40:18.000 He looks like a walking dead man. 1.00

00:40:20.000 He looked like shit before he became president, but he looks way worse now. 1.00

00:40:24.000 I mean, he's mumbling. 1.00

00:40:25.000 He can't get through sentences.

00:40:27.000 They keep walking back what he's saying.

00:40:29.000 You ever seen those compilations where Biden is saying non-words?

00:40:33.000 Yeah.

00:40:34.000 It's wild.

00:40:34.000 Yeah.

00:40:35.000 It's wild.

00:40:36.000 It sounds like my 16-month-old daughter sometimes trying to get words out.

00:40:40.000 He's challenged.

00:40:41.000 There's real problems.

00:40:43.000 He's 80, right?

00:40:43.000 Yes.

00:40:44.000 He's close.

00:40:44.000 Yeah.

00:40:45.000 If he's not 80. I think he's 79 or 80, yeah.

00:40:48.000 But not Trump, man. 0.99

00:40:50.000 When he was in office, he never fucking aged. 0.97

00:40:53.000 And now he's doing these campaign speeches and he's funny. 1.00

00:40:56.000 Like he says funny shit. 0.99

00:40:57.000 Did you see what he said the other day about the climate? 1.00

00:40:59.000 He's always funny.

00:41:00.000 The John Kerry thing.

00:41:01.000 He goes, John Kerry's worried about the climate. 0.98

00:41:03.000 And he goes, the ocean's going to rise a half of an inch over the next 500 fucking years. 0.98

00:41:11.000 And it's like, Jesus Christ. 0.98

00:41:13.000 I think I saw him working that bit out at LOL. I mean, he's a comic.

00:41:16.000 The dude's a comic.

00:41:17.000 He's got timing.

00:41:19.000 Pretty soon we're going to see him.

00:41:20.000 He's going to call you up and be like, Joe, can I work out?

00:41:22.000 I got a new 15 I'm about to tell my MAGA people.

00:41:25.000 If a comic ran for president, like...

00:41:28.000 Zelensky? 0.85

00:41:30.000 Yeah, in Ukraine, sure.

00:41:33.000 But if a comic ran for president in America, I think Schultz could pull it off.

00:41:37.000 I think Schultz could be president someday.

00:41:40.000 It would definitely be...

00:41:41.000 He definitely would release his presidency in clips.

00:41:44.000 Yes.

00:41:45.000 For sure.

00:41:45.000 He'd do it on Instagram.

00:41:46.000 It would be short.

00:41:47.000 He would have it down to...

00:41:48.000 Turn your phone sideways.

00:41:49.000 Yeah, turn your phone sideways for a second.

00:41:50.000 This is why I'm running for president.

00:41:52.000 Citizens of America. 1.00

00:41:54.000 He'll have t-shirt guns and shit. 0.99

00:41:56.000 You could do anything with a t-shirt gun. 0.99

00:41:57.000 You ever see people at a basketball game when the t-shirt guns come out?

00:42:00.000 Isn't it wild that people care?

00:42:02.000 Dude, people will do it.

00:42:03.000 How many t-shirts do you need?

00:42:03.000 If we took t-shirt guns right now to the Ukraine war and just shot them off, the soldiers would stop fighting to try to get the t-shirts.

00:42:10.000 People do anything for a free t-shirt.

00:42:12.000 It is weird that that t-shirt gun's a thing.

00:42:15.000 It drives people.

00:42:17.000 They love it.

00:42:18.000 Everyone's like, over here!

00:42:20.000 It's fun!

00:42:21.000 It's also a numbers game, right?

00:42:23.000 If there's 15,000 people in a crowd and you're one of five people that catches a t-shirt, it's pretty sweet.

00:42:28.000 It is sweet.

00:42:30.000 You can be that one person.

00:42:32.000 What do you think if we started thinking outside the box, though, for president?

00:42:36.000 Because we're in a new era with a new level of technology that's changed the world so much.

00:42:43.000 Shouldn't we start thinking about...

00:42:45.000 Shouldn't the president be someone...

00:42:48.000 Who's a pro, who can like lead, like overlooked, but can lead like a conjoined twins?

00:42:54.000 Like we get like, you know what I mean?

00:42:56.000 Like who knows how to, who better to teach us to get along than two people like trapped in the same body?

00:43:03.000 Have you ever seen that 60 Minutes where there's like those two sisters, they have one body and two heads? 1.00

00:43:08.000 You ever see Segura's bit on that?

00:43:09.000 No.

00:43:10.000 It's rough.

00:43:10.000 What does he say?

00:43:11.000 It's rough.

00:43:12.000 It's hilarious, but it's a Tom Segura bit. 0.99

00:43:15.000 You know, it's fucking... 0.97

00:43:16.000 He goes, I don't want to say it. 1.00

00:43:17.000 I feel bad.

00:43:18.000 Yeah.

00:43:19.000 Well, I would go the other way and say those two girls can teach us how to get along, dude. 1.00

00:43:24.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:43:25.000 But there's a lot of other things you have to be aware of.

00:43:29.000 It's like to be a real leader is almost impossible.

00:43:32.000 I think we need a council of elders, of wise people.

00:43:36.000 That's what I think.

00:43:37.000 I think the idea of running the government with one person is so preposterous.

00:43:41.000 Although it's obviously not one person.

00:43:43.000 They have a cabinet, they have a vice president, there's a law.

00:43:46.000 The legislative branches.

00:43:47.000 Yeah, there's a lot of checks and balances in place, but it's still, it's a popularity contest, and every four years, a person is new on the job, and they have the hardest job in the world, and they just started.

00:44:00.000 Well, this is the thing that, I mean, I can't imagine that it wasn't a factor that Biden is so incompetent That it led Putin to be more bold in his approach with Ukraine.

00:44:15.000 I can't imagine that the Afghanistan pullout, which was so disastrous and so poorly planned, and it looked so terrible on the world stage, I can't imagine that that didn't have an effect. 0.99

00:44:28.000 Well, there's one thing it does show and that it does throw a wrench in the whole Trump was a Russian asset thing.

00:44:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:36.000 Because if he was a Russian asset, wouldn't the perfect time to invade have been when he was president? 0.74

00:44:41.000 Because he wouldn't put these harsh sanctions on.

00:44:44.000 He would sort of go easy on them.

00:44:45.000 So that theory is kind of thrown out the window.

00:44:48.000 Well, that theory has been disproven by facts.

00:44:51.000 If you look at how that whole propaganda stream was trumped up, no pun intended, that was designed by propagandists.

00:45:03.000 They were trying to promote a fake narrative that he was in cahoots with the Russians, that he was a Russian agent. 1.00

00:45:07.000 I mean, you heard that from all these idiots on TV. Over and over and over again. 1.00

00:45:12.000 And now that it's been proven to not be true, not only was it proven to not be true, but it was proven that the Hillary Clinton campaign was involved with that.

00:45:18.000 And that they had even hacked into the Trump servers.

00:45:22.000 They had hired people to hack into the servers.

00:45:24.000 And they were trying to push this narrative that he was in cahoots with Russia.

00:45:28.000 But I think they're all messy.

00:45:31.000 All these people that you deal with Russia, you deal with China, there's a deal here and a deal there, and there's money being passed around.

00:45:39.000 It's like, everyone's compromised at a certain point.

00:45:42.000 And I don't think you get to that position of power without being in some way compromised by your relationships.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, I mean, the whole Pete on the hooker thing was...

00:45:51.000 Hilarious.

00:45:52.000 It was hilarious and far-fetched that that would be something they could blackmail him with. 1.00

00:45:56.000 Because Trump just seems like the type of guy that would be like, Yeah, I peed on a hooker. 1.00

00:46:00.000 You know? 1.00

00:46:01.000 It's what I did.

00:46:01.000 Or they peed on him.

00:46:02.000 I forget what it was.

00:46:02.000 Or he peed on him and said, yeah, you should try it.

00:46:04.000 He would probably go, you should try it.

00:46:05.000 It's warm.

00:46:05.000 But isn't he like a germ freak?

00:46:07.000 They say he's a germ freak.

00:46:09.000 Yeah, he doesn't shake hands and things, yeah.

00:46:10.000 Oh, he shakes hands.

00:46:11.000 Oh, he does?

00:46:12.000 Yeah, he shook my hand.

00:46:13.000 By the way, he's got normal-sized hands.

00:46:14.000 He does have normal sense.

00:46:15.000 He's just a big dude.

00:46:16.000 I have pretty big hands.

00:46:17.000 You got paws.

00:46:18.000 His hands look normal.

00:46:19.000 Yeah.

00:46:19.000 Like, I know when a guy has a tiny hand.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:22.000 You know?

00:46:22.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 Yeah, he has...

00:46:24.000 It's a normal hand.

00:46:25.000 Maybe he's just...

00:46:26.000 Because he's a big dude, right?

00:46:27.000 He's tall, so maybe they just look a little smaller.

00:46:29.000 Well, he's got a boxy suit on to hide his fat.

00:46:31.000 Yeah.

00:46:31.000 And so when you've got a boxy suit on, all your appendages look little.

00:46:34.000 They're hanging out in those big suits.

00:46:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:38.000 That's why I always felt like Ice Cube, I feel like, always wore a big shirt because I think he had sort of a pudgy...

00:46:43.000 He was pudgy big.

00:46:45.000 Yeah, you know.

00:46:46.000 It makes you look less...

00:46:47.000 I mean, if you're wearing tight clothes and you've got a fat gut, it's not a good look. 0.82

00:46:50.000 Yeah, you've got to go black color. 0.98

00:46:52.000 That's what I'm doing right now.

00:46:53.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:46:53.000 Yeah.

00:46:55.000 But it's like that was this narrative that they were shaming him for his little hands.

00:47:00.000 That's the weird thing about the left, too, is that you're not supposed to fat shame.

00:47:04.000 It's supposed to be body positivity.

00:47:07.000 You're not supposed to mock people for things that they can't control, unless...

00:47:11.000 They don't fit with your narrative.

00:47:13.000 Like, it was an opportunity to stand up to their own principles, and they violated it instantaneously.

00:47:18.000 They're like, look at his little hands. 1.00

00:47:20.000 Probably got a little dick. 1.00

00:47:21.000 That was the implication. 1.00

00:47:23.000 Little hands are a little dick, and that's why he wants to be a dictator. 1.00

00:47:26.000 Right. 0.99

00:47:27.000 They did the same thing to Huckabee Sanders.

00:47:30.000 They just ripped her apart.

00:47:31.000 What did they do?

00:47:32.000 Talking about her looks.

00:47:33.000 Oh, her looks. 1.00

00:47:34.000 Yeah.

00:47:34.000 Well, that was...

00:47:35.000 I mean, did they really...

00:47:37.000 I mean, Michelle Wolf had a funny, hilarious bit about her when she was doing the White House Correspondence speech. 0.99

00:47:43.000 Remember, she did stand-up, and Trump was mocking her, and all she said is something about her fucking smoky makeup. 0.98

00:47:53.000 She was just making fun of her makeup. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Yeah, it wasn't even that bad.

00:47:55.000 It wasn't that bad at all.

00:47:56.000 People did attack her looks, like, from the left. 0.99

00:47:59.000 Well, I mean, if you're- Part of us because they had eyes.

00:48:02.000 Yeah, like Jen Psaki. 1.00

00:48:04.000 She looks shrew.

00:48:05.000 She looks like someone who is like a teacher that you're like, oh, not this lady. 0.99

00:48:09.000 Like if you get a sub, a sub's two teachers, it's, oh, it's Mrs. Psaki. 1.00

00:48:13.000 Oh, great.

00:48:15.000 Imagine that gig.

00:48:17.000 What? 1.00

00:48:18.000 Being a fucking White House press secretary. 1.00

00:48:19.000 You just have to lie. 1.00

00:48:20.000 Yeah, Jen Psaki looks like the chick from The Big Lebowski. 1.00

00:48:26.000 Mr. Lebowski with the red haircut.

00:48:29.000 That was Julianne Moore in Big Lebowski. 0.53

00:48:32.000 Oh, no.

00:48:32.000 Julianne Moore is way hotter.

00:48:34.000 I know, but the haircut and the red hair.

00:48:35.000 I don't know.

00:48:36.000 Julianne Moore was hot. 1.00

00:48:38.000 That's not hot.

00:48:38.000 You wouldn't throw one at, you know?

00:48:40.000 At Saki?

00:48:41.000 She's a Greek girl, too.

00:48:43.000 Imagine the conversations you'd have to have before you got in bed with her.

00:48:45.000 She'd have great stories.

00:48:47.000 She'd make some up.

00:48:48.000 You would have an argument with her, and she wouldn't even try to be accurate.

00:48:51.000 She would just try to dance around the truth.

00:48:53.000 We'll circle back to that.

00:48:54.000 But what I'm trying to say, what the president means is like, when they have those speeches, it's not about truth.

00:49:01.000 That's the most frustrating thing about that. 0.99

00:49:03.000 Like when Peter Doocy from Fox says, well, the president said this, and this is like, Well, I think you know, the president means this, and it's good for the world, and it's just bullshit. 0.97

00:49:12.000 And all they're trying to do is just make it sound good. 0.97

00:49:15.000 That's all those speeches are.

00:49:16.000 Just make it sound okay.

00:49:18.000 Make it sound good.

00:49:20.000 It's not about relaying information or facts or being accurate or transparent.

00:49:25.000 It's just about sounding good enough to get out of that with a win or at least a draw.

00:49:32.000 Yeah.

00:49:32.000 That's all it is.

00:49:33.000 They're like lawyers for the president.

00:49:35.000 Worse.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 Worse, because lawyers have to stick to facts.

00:49:39.000 Well, do they?

00:49:41.000 I mean, some things, they're quoting actual statistics and numbers.

00:49:46.000 I mean, they have dockets, right?

00:49:49.000 So they have rather evidence.

00:49:51.000 So they look at the evidence.

00:49:53.000 If the defense gets the evidence and the prosecution gets the evidence, you get to look at it.

00:49:57.000 That's not what the numbers are at all.

00:49:59.000 She can just lie. 0.98

00:50:00.000 She just bullshits about things. 0.99

00:50:02.000 She bullshits about so many different things that are not true. 0.97

00:50:05.000 She said that the vaccines were FDA approved, gold standard approved.

00:50:10.000 No, they're not.

00:50:11.000 They're not.

00:50:11.000 It's emergency use authorization.

00:50:13.000 This is a lie.

00:50:14.000 You're saying it on television.

00:50:15.000 Everybody knows this.

00:50:16.000 People are going to be able to look this up.

00:50:17.000 There's a lot of those things that she did.

00:50:19.000 It's just to make it sound good enough to get out of there with a W. Let me get out of there.

00:50:25.000 Thank you.

00:50:25.000 Bye.

00:50:26.000 No more questions.

00:50:27.000 I got out of this one.

00:50:28.000 I'm okay.

00:50:29.000 Right.

00:50:30.000 Johnny Cochran would be a good press secretary, though.

00:50:32.000 He'd be a very good press secretary.

00:50:33.000 I mean, I don't think he sticks to the truth.

00:50:36.000 You know, some lawyers do lie.

00:50:38.000 Of course they do.

00:50:38.000 Yeah, but the gloves did not fit.

00:50:42.000 So, that is evidence.

00:50:44.000 He put them on and he went, I could have done it.

00:50:46.000 He went like this and shoved his hand out wide.

00:50:49.000 Tight leather gloves.

00:50:51.000 That is a wild story.

00:50:54.000 I'll never forget the day me and my girlfriend were sitting in front of the television in 1994 and we were watching the verdict.

00:51:01.000 94, 95, whatever it was.

00:51:03.000 Watching the verdict on television.

00:51:04.000 And when they said not guilty, she went like this.

00:51:07.000 Oh! 0.60

00:51:08.000 She was shocked.

00:51:10.000 That's it.

00:51:11.000 That's the moment.

00:51:12.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 Who's the other guy?

00:51:15.000 What's this guy?

00:51:15.000 The white guy.

00:51:16.000 F.E. Bailey.

00:51:17.000 They all died of cancer, right?

00:51:19.000 Didn't they all die of cancer?

00:51:21.000 I think Johnny Cochran had like a brain tumor, I think.

00:51:26.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 And he dropped...

00:51:29.000 He was smooth, though.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, man.

00:51:31.000 All those guys, man. 1.00

00:51:32.000 Imagine knowing you got that guy off when he cut his wife's head off with a fucking knife. 1.00

00:51:37.000 There's Kardashian. 1.00

00:51:38.000 That's the patriarch Kardashian.

00:51:40.000 That's the Cuba Gooding Jr. thing.

00:51:42.000 Cuba Gooding Jr. just kept getting in trouble.

00:51:45.000 Is he out of trouble now?

00:51:46.000 Is he okay?

00:51:48.000 I don't know.

00:51:48.000 He kept coming after Cuba Cunning Jr. What'd he do?

00:51:52.000 He was getting very drunk and very handsy, apparently.

00:51:57.000 At the very least.

00:51:59.000 There was a lot of accusations.

00:52:01.000 Yeah.

00:52:02.000 Just tubes partying.

00:52:03.000 Like, way too hard, allegedly, in a very non-appropriate way.

00:52:09.000 In a very 1940s, 50s way, where you could get away with it when you're a star.

00:52:14.000 Probably deep into the 70s.

00:52:16.000 70s.

00:52:16.000 Yeah, right.

00:52:17.000 80s.

00:52:17.000 Deep into like three years ago.

00:52:20.000 Like, you imagine being like a Humphrey Bogart type character in the old days when a movie star was a new thing.

00:52:31.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 If you go back before Humphrey Bogart, I guess like, who's like the original movie star?

00:52:37.000 Was it Charlie Chaplin?

00:52:38.000 Like, who would be the first big movie star?

00:52:41.000 Buster Keaton?

00:52:42.000 They're definitely one of the first because they were still silent movies then, right?

00:52:46.000 Let's say Buster Keaton.

00:52:49.000 No one knew how to be a movie star.

00:52:51.000 And all of a sudden this guy was a movie star.

00:52:53.000 There's no data on how to do that, right?

00:52:56.000 Right.

00:52:56.000 Like now you can look at Will Smith and go, okay, don't smack comics.

00:52:59.000 Right.

00:52:59.000 Who knows how it's going to affect his career?

00:53:02.000 Right.

00:53:03.000 But it's probably not going to be good.

00:53:05.000 Right.

00:53:05.000 You could see mistakes that famous people make and you go, oh, you don't want to do that.

00:53:09.000 You don't want to be Alec Baldwin.

00:53:11.000 You don't want to be this guy.

00:53:12.000 You don't want to be that guy.

00:53:12.000 And then you could kind of plan accordingly and learn from other people's mistakes.

00:53:16.000 Right.

00:53:17.000 Because just the unchecked ego with that amount of adulation and attention and worship, like people worship stars, big movie stars.

00:53:28.000 A guy like Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin or those early guys, they had no one to model in them.

00:53:33.000 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 And yeah, when you're that revered, it's hard to get the truth.

00:53:39.000 Everyone's scared to tell you that's the problem with being king, right?

00:53:42.000 Everyone's like, yeah, whatever you say is true, boss. 0.98

00:53:44.000 Yeah, if you don't self-audit, if you don't look at your own bullshit, you have no way of knowing if you're that insulated from the rest of the world. 0.99

00:53:54.000 It's kind of fucking terrifying. 0.99

00:53:56.000 It's not good. 0.97

00:53:57.000 It's not a good position because it's a bad position for analyzing data.

00:54:02.000 And as a human being, you constantly analyze, how much am I lying to myself?

00:54:08.000 Am I bullshitting?

00:54:09.000 Are people bullshitting me?

00:54:11.000 Am I being rude and I think I'm justified, but other people think it's terrible?

00:54:15.000 Let me look at this.

00:54:16.000 I need to know where I'm coming from.

00:54:18.000 If you're that guy who shows up on the set and everyone's like, Mr. Smith, can I get you a water, Mr. Smith?

00:54:23.000 Here's the latest script.

00:54:25.000 Here's the thing.

00:54:25.000 You look amazing.

00:54:26.000 Have you lost weight? 1.00

00:54:27.000 And they're just like, everyone's kissing your ass because they all want a promotion. 0.99

00:54:30.000 They all want to be working with you forever. 1.00

00:54:32.000 They're going to hitch their fucking caboose to your... 0.99

00:54:35.000 No, the caboose is the engine and the caboose. 1.00

00:54:38.000 Which one's the caboose?

00:54:39.000 The back?

00:54:40.000 Really?

00:54:41.000 Yeah.

00:54:42.000 Hitch your wagon.

00:54:43.000 I think it's hitch your wagon.

00:54:43.000 Hitch your wagon to the horse.

00:54:44.000 Yeah.

00:54:44.000 But, like, what is the front one called?

00:54:46.000 The engine? 0.98

00:54:47.000 What's the fucking... 1.00

00:54:48.000 What's the motor? 1.00

00:54:49.000 What's the front of the plane?

00:54:51.000 The front of the train, rather.

00:54:52.000 If it's a Tesla, it's a frunk.

00:54:54.000 They call it a frunk.

00:54:55.000 Front trunk.

00:54:56.000 Locomotive.

00:54:57.000 Locomotive.

00:54:58.000 Oh, really?

00:54:58.000 I thought that was the whole thing.

00:55:00.000 Nope.

00:55:00.000 The whole thing's called train.

00:55:01.000 Oh, so the locomotive is the front part.

00:55:04.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:55:05.000 That's why the butt's a caboose. 0.99

00:55:08.000 But imagine if you're a person who's trying to hitch yourself to this rocket ship that is Elvis.

00:55:17.000 You'll just say whatever Elvis is like, I'm gonna go to my room and do these pills.

00:55:21.000 And you're like, that's good for you, boss.

00:55:22.000 Yeah, I would do the same thing if I was you.

00:55:24.000 I'm gonna go eat these 10 cheeseburgers.

00:55:26.000 That's great!

00:55:27.000 Bro, they gave Elvis a black belt.

00:55:28.000 Yeah.

00:55:29.000 They gave Elvis a black belt and he used to do demonstrations in karate.

00:55:33.000 With the big collar on.

00:55:34.000 You ever see him do that?

00:55:35.000 No.

00:55:35.000 Oh, they're amazing.

00:55:36.000 You've never seen the Elvis karate demonstrations?

00:55:38.000 No.

00:55:39.000 Oh, Giannis.

00:55:40.000 No.

00:55:40.000 You see, Elvis, in my opinion, there's a cautionary tale in Elvis because he was the legit first rock star.

00:55:47.000 The first rock star that was so big.

00:55:50.000 And he wasn't in a band either.

00:55:52.000 It was just Elvis, right? 0.97

00:55:53.000 So it wasn't like John and Ringo and George could sit around and go, hey, what the fuck are we doing? 0.90

00:55:59.000 And Paul McCartney chimes in and like, hey guys, we gotta do Acid. 0.88

00:56:03.000 And that's what they did.

00:56:04.000 They were like, we gotta find ourselves.

00:56:06.000 This is crazy.

00:56:07.000 Our position, right?

00:56:08.000 And so they started talking to gurus and they started doing psychedelics.

00:56:12.000 I mean, that's the White Album.

00:56:14.000 That's a lot of their later work that got really weird and more artistic and Experimental.

00:56:20.000 That was based on their, you know, trying to expand their consciousness and deal with this insane level of fame that they were at.

00:56:31.000 But Elvis didn't have any of that.

00:56:33.000 He just had the pills.

00:56:34.000 He would just take those pills and do karate.

00:56:37.000 So he's doing karate and he did karate with the sunglasses on and he had the collared shirt on when he was doing karate.

00:56:44.000 Look at this.

00:56:45.000 And they would do demonstrations.

00:56:47.000 Like, look at this.

00:56:48.000 He's poking the eyes.

00:56:49.000 Poking the neck. 0.99

00:56:51.000 And they would punch him, and he would just... 0.97

00:56:53.000 And so he would do this.

00:56:57.000 And he was trained by a legit guy, Ed Parker, who was like, look at that.

00:57:01.000 These are terrible kicks, bro.

00:57:03.000 That's terrible. 0.99

00:57:04.000 That's like me if I was fucking around, if I was drunk pretending I did no karate. 0.99

00:57:08.000 Nah, that would look better than that. 0.99

00:57:11.000 That would be like me doing it.

00:57:12.000 But it's like the difference between a legitimate black belt of 2022 and a legitimate black belt of 1971 is very different too.

00:57:22.000 The level of martial arts is much, much higher now.

00:57:27.000 But at the time, like, Ed Parker was the Don, and Elvis trained under Ed Parker.

00:57:34.000 And there's, like, these demonstrations where, like, three or four guys were, like, pressing on Elvis' neck, and he, like, walks towards them, and they all fall down to the ground, and it's crazy.

00:57:43.000 And he's sweaty because he's pilled up.

00:57:45.000 He's like, man, that was amazing, right?

00:57:47.000 That was amazing.

00:57:48.000 And they're all, like, falling down on the ground.

00:57:49.000 They weren't really...

00:57:51.000 No, but there's a lot of those.

00:57:53.000 Have you ever seen those?

00:57:54.000 You ever go to, like, McDojo, or what is it?

00:57:57.000 No, but I got a new rabbit hole to go down now.

00:58:00.000 McDojoLife.

00:58:01.000 Yeah, McDojoLife on Instagram.

00:58:03.000 McDojoLife on Instagram is this dude who puts up all of these fake martial arts videos.

00:58:08.000 All of his Instagram feed is just...

00:58:11.000 There's so many of them out there, man, where guys, like, pretend like they're gonna go attack you and just...

00:58:17.000 You do, like, your chi power and they fall to the ground.

00:58:20.000 But they're being serious.

00:58:22.000 Like, they really are pretending that it's really happening.

00:58:24.000 Yeah.

00:58:24.000 And they're everywhere.

00:58:25.000 Yeah.

00:58:25.000 Elvis was involved in that.

00:58:27.000 Power of belief, I guess, right?

00:58:28.000 Until you get in there with a wrestler who wants to shoot at the body, and then that just changes everything.

00:58:32.000 They change everything, really, because they just tackle you.

00:58:35.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, they just tackle it.

00:58:36.000 When you go like that, you get into your stance and all that shit, they just shoot. 1.00

00:58:39.000 Any real martial artist, a real Muay Thai guy would just kick your fucking legs out from under you and try to do that chi bullshit. 1.00

00:58:46.000 But there's a lot of people that believe that stuff. 1.00

00:58:48.000 They believe in that chi touch.

00:58:50.000 In that, you know, harnessing your inner energy.

00:58:52.000 I've had people have conversations with me about it.

00:58:54.000 I'm like, okay.

00:58:55.000 Okay.

00:58:55.000 You think that's real?

00:58:56.000 Why doesn't someone use it in the UFC? It'd be too dangerous.

00:58:59.000 It'd be too deadly.

00:59:00.000 Also, it's not something that you would do for entertainment purposes.

00:59:03.000 It's spiritual.

00:59:06.000 Okay.

00:59:06.000 Yeah.

00:59:07.000 Show me one guy.

00:59:07.000 Show me one guy that can do that against a trained martial artist just to prove its efficacy.

00:59:12.000 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 It doesn't exist.

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 Because MMA is like the...

00:59:16.000 That's where the truth is told.

00:59:19.000 That's where the rubber hits the road.

00:59:20.000 That's where the rubber hits the road, as they say.

00:59:21.000 Yeah.

00:59:22.000 That's the real deal.

00:59:23.000 Yeah.

00:59:23.000 Like, you have an offer.

00:59:24.000 Come show it.

00:59:25.000 Show us how it works. 0.94

00:59:26.000 We found out everything about what was bullshit in martial arts in 1993 when Hoist Gracie, who weighed 175 pounds, strangled everybody. 0.95

00:59:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:59:35.000 We're like, oh, look at that. 0.98

00:59:36.000 He did fully clothed, too.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, wearing pajamas.

00:59:39.000 He wore his whole thing. 0.88

00:59:40.000 Fucked everybody up in a jujitsu kimono. 0.98

00:59:42.000 And when they could headbutt him, too, right? 0.99

00:59:44.000 They could poke him. 1.00

00:59:45.000 They could fucking pull his hair. 1.00

00:59:46.000 They could kick him in the nuts. 1.00

00:59:47.000 They could do whatever they wanted. 0.99

00:59:48.000 Against some guys who were probably taking roids, too.

00:59:50.000 All of them.

00:59:51.000 So many of them were taking boards.

00:59:52.000 And if you saw Hoist without a shirt on, he looked very fit, but he was thin.

00:59:57.000 He was 175 pounds.

00:59:59.000 So he's 20 pounds less than me.

01:00:00.000 Right. 0.99

01:00:01.000 And he's fighting against these giant dudes, like huge wrestlers and huge sumo guys and all these fucking karate guys, and he fucked everybody up. 0.98

01:00:10.000 And he preferred if you were on top of him in an advantageous position. 0.98

01:00:16.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:00:16.000 Take me down.

01:00:17.000 Yeah, that's where he did his best work.

01:00:18.000 You have no idea what's happening here.

01:00:20.000 And he used to take some headbutts, too.

01:00:22.000 Oh, my God.

01:00:23.000 The chemo fight.

01:00:24.000 That was a crazy fight because that was a perfect example of a gigantic, roided-up dude. 0.96

01:00:29.000 And Hoist just fucking dragged him into deep water and eventually armbarred him. 1.00

01:00:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:00:35.000 I love the idea of that. 0.99

01:00:36.000 A dude who looks like he could be behind a counter of a guitar world could just fucking choke you out. 0.99

01:00:42.000 He looks like a chef. 0.99

01:00:43.000 Yeah, he just looks like...

01:00:44.000 Especially with the white outfit.

01:00:46.000 How would you like your steak cooked?

01:00:48.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 Nobody looks more like a chef, though, than Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer.

01:00:53.000 Every time I see a clip of their videos, if you put it on mute, it just looks like two chefs talking shop.

01:00:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:59.000 Those dudes got chef faces. 1.00

01:01:00.000 Yeah, Bert has that chef who likes to party look.

01:01:04.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 I just imagine he has Crocs on when I see him.

01:01:08.000 I bet he does.

01:01:09.000 Well, he definitely has flip-flops on.

01:01:10.000 For sure, flip-flops, yeah.

01:01:11.000 He wears flip-flops in the winter.

01:01:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:01:13.000 He could be fucking Wisconsin in the winter and Burt's out there with flip-flops on. 0.99

01:01:16.000 People from Florida take Florida with him. 0.99

01:01:18.000 Florida.

01:01:19.000 He's a different kind of dude, man.

01:01:21.000 He's just built different.

01:01:22.000 I've never seen a man drink as much as Burt on a regular basis.

01:01:26.000 Tom and I were actually having a conversation about it a couple days ago because I was a little worried.

01:01:30.000 Because I'm watching these clips of Bert and I'm like, how big is he now?

01:01:33.000 And he's like, he's 260. He goes, he comes over to my house.

01:01:36.000 We're going to do a podcast.

01:01:37.000 Because they do a podcast and Tom has a studio out here in Austin.

01:01:40.000 So Bert flies in.

01:01:41.000 They do Two Bears, One Cave.

01:01:44.000 They do it.

01:01:45.000 I think he flies in once a month and they film like four or five of them.

01:01:49.000 He goes, Bert stays in my house.

01:01:51.000 He goes, 10 o'clock in the morning, he starts drinking.

01:01:53.000 He wakes up and he's doing shots.

01:01:55.000 He goes, he's drinking.

01:01:56.000 He's making margaritas.

01:01:57.000 I'm like, what?

01:01:58.000 He goes, he's drinking.

01:01:59.000 He was drinking all day. 0.99

01:02:01.000 He eats like a maniac.

01:02:02.000 He goes, I've never seen anything like it.

01:02:04.000 He goes, there's no restraint.

01:02:05.000 He has no restraint in like what he eats and what he wants to eat.

01:02:08.000 He just shoves it all in his mouth and he tries to work out and work it off as much as he can. 1.00

01:02:13.000 But he's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:02:15.000 He's an animal. 1.00

01:02:16.000 For a guy, if that's what he consumes, he looks pretty good.

01:02:20.000 No one else can do it.

01:02:22.000 Whatever his furnace is, play this.

01:02:27.000 What is he saying?

01:02:28.000 What is on his head?

01:02:29.000 Oh, that's on the TV. Play it anyway.

01:02:32.000 We'll give him some promotion.

01:02:34.000 ...a comedy, what with violence and jokes.

01:02:37.000 I just want to make sure everyone knows that at my show, at the Greek in Los Angeles...

01:02:41.000 No, but he's the master of promotion.

01:02:43.000 ...there will be no jokes made about anyone's family other than my own. 1.00

01:02:46.000 Wait a minute, I got a great joke about your wife being a whore. 1.00

01:02:49.000 Well, let me hear it. 1.00

01:02:50.000 Hold on, she's not done.

01:02:53.000 Mark Norman will also be performing with me, May 5th, at the Greek.

01:02:57.000 You got that right.

01:02:59.000 It's a family affair.

01:03:15.000 They got Will Smith in a loop in the background smacking Chris Rock.

01:03:20.000 That's a great show.

01:03:21.000 Go to see it. 0.84

01:03:22.000 Yeah, those two dudes are beasts.

01:03:23.000 May 5th, the Greek in Los Angeles, California. 0.99

01:03:26.000 He's an animal, man.

01:03:28.000 He's a master of promoting shows, too.

01:03:30.000 Oh, he's dedicated. 1.00

01:03:31.000 He does drone footage and shit. 0.99

01:03:34.000 Takes off his shirt for every one of them. 0.99

01:03:35.000 I did his podcast recently, and I was staying at Whitney Cummings' house, and he gave me a seminar.

01:03:41.000 I was over there, and he was like, you know what would be great?

01:03:46.000 He's like, I'd love to see you.

01:03:48.000 Use her house when she's not there and then plug your dates.

01:03:53.000 He's like, get in her bed, get in her bathtub.

01:03:57.000 Bring your dogs in the bed with you? 0.99

01:03:59.000 Yeah, bring the dogs in. 0.99

01:04:00.000 Dude, I broke up a wicked dogfight at Whitney's house.

01:04:04.000 Oh, she's got those rescue dogs, man. 1.00

01:04:06.000 Dude, it was bloody.

01:04:07.000 If I wasn't there, it would have been bad.

01:04:09.000 Well, she gets bit sometimes herself.

01:04:11.000 She got her ear bitten off. 0.96

01:04:12.000 She's gotten a lot.

01:04:13.000 Yeah, she's got bites all over. 1.00

01:04:14.000 She had to get her ear put back on.

01:04:16.000 Whitney did?

01:04:17.000 Yeah.

01:04:17.000 Wow.

01:04:18.000 Dog bit her fucking ear off. 1.00

01:04:19.000 Yeah, she's dedicated to those dogs. 1.00

01:04:20.000 She gets these rescue dogs, and the dog didn't even mean to.

01:04:23.000 It just nipped at her a little bit like it would a dog.

01:04:26.000 Yeah.

01:04:26.000 You know, because a lot of them are not domesticated, really, that well.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, and just, you know, if dogs don't like each other, just it is what it is.

01:04:34.000 It's hard to make them like each other.

01:04:35.000 She gets a bunch of pit bulls, too. 1.00

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:37.000 And I used to have pit bulls.

01:04:40.000 I love pit bulls.

01:04:41.000 I love them.

01:04:43.000 But they're not crazy about other dogs.

01:04:45.000 It's got to be.

01:04:45.000 They are not crazy.

01:04:46.000 No.

01:04:47.000 Not happy with other dogs.

01:04:48.000 It's bred.

01:04:48.000 They're bred into them.

01:04:48.000 Especially if other dogs talk shit.

01:04:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:50.000 It's like Mike Tyson in his prime. 1.00

01:04:52.000 Like, what the fuck did you just say? 0.99

01:04:54.000 Like, they're ready to go to the death. 1.00

01:04:55.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 Like, right away.

01:04:56.000 And little dogs always talk shit because that's what they got. 1.00

01:04:58.000 Because I feel bad for little dogs that we bred them that little. 1.00

01:05:01.000 It's like, that thing is still a wolf and has no idea how small it is.

01:05:04.000 And it sees another dog and it just wants to go.

01:05:06.000 And they're also a little insecure.

01:05:08.000 They're like the Joe Pesci of dogs. 1.00

01:05:09.000 And then fucking... 1.00

01:05:11.000 The pits rip them up. 1.00

01:05:12.000 The pits is that they were bred for it.

01:05:14.000 They were literally bred for fighting.

01:05:16.000 So it's like there's genetics.

01:05:18.000 Genetics are interesting because I wonder how much of genetics are behavioral.

01:05:24.000 Because we think of genetics as only being like your physical characteristics and your tendency towards diseases and this and that.

01:05:31.000 Like, oh, your family's from Greece and these are the genetics.

01:05:34.000 But there's something that's passed on between parents that's mental.

01:05:38.000 Like, there's something about mindset and, like, dogs, for instance.

01:05:45.000 Somehow or another, dogs...

01:05:47.000 Like, you've met Marshall.

01:05:47.000 He was here today.

01:05:48.000 My dog.

01:05:49.000 Like, that dog, the genetics of that dog is, like, this loving family dog who's so kind and so obedient and listens.

01:05:58.000 Like, if I tell him, hey, man, come here.

01:05:59.000 Like, I could talk to him like a person.

01:06:01.000 Dude, do me a favor.

01:06:02.000 Sit down.

01:06:02.000 And he'll sit.

01:06:03.000 And I'll go, you're such a good boy.

01:06:05.000 And he'll start wagging his tail and he'll come over.

01:06:07.000 I'll just lie down, man.

01:06:07.000 I'm trying to do a show.

01:06:08.000 And he'll lie down.

01:06:09.000 And he'll just hang out.

01:06:10.000 You could talk to him. 1.00

01:06:11.000 But I've had other dogs who'd be like, fuck you. 1.00

01:06:14.000 I'm not doing that. 1.00

01:06:15.000 I'm a wolf.

01:06:16.000 I'm out here wandering. 1.00

01:06:17.000 You can't teach wolf shit. 1.00

01:06:18.000 Do you know that? 1.00

01:06:19.000 I had a friend who had a wolf.

01:06:21.000 He had three wolves as a pet.

01:06:23.000 He had wolf dogs.

01:06:24.000 They're like part dog, part wolf, but mostly wolf.

01:06:26.000 No, they're legal.

01:06:27.000 I don't think you can have a wolf dog.

01:06:29.000 Can you?

01:06:30.000 He had them.

01:06:31.000 He had three of them.

01:06:32.000 I mean, this was...

01:06:34.000 Early 2000s.

01:06:36.000 So, you know, 2001, 2002. Okay, it was before Mito, so it was totally fine.

01:06:39.000 But those dogs aren't... 0.99

01:06:41.000 They're not dogs, man.

01:06:43.000 They're wolves. 1.00

01:06:43.000 They don't listen to shit. 1.00

01:06:44.000 No. 1.00

01:06:45.000 I go, are they trained?

01:06:46.000 He goes, no.

01:06:47.000 Okay, it's illegal to own a pure wolf.

01:06:50.000 They're classified as an endangered and regulated species, while it's legal to own a 98...

01:06:57.000 98%, 2% wolf-dog federally.

01:07:00.000 Many states, counties, and cities are outlawing all wolves and wolf-dogs.

01:07:04.000 Any wolf or wolf-dog found within these areas is immediately killed.

01:07:08.000 Yeah, I mean, they're, you know, they're wolf.

01:07:10.000 They got wolf in there.

01:07:11.000 Yeah, if you have a 98% wolf dog, you got a wolf, and that thing doesn't listen.

01:07:15.000 They don't listen.

01:07:16.000 And his dogs would get out, and one time they got out, and they went into...

01:07:21.000 He lived on a ranch, and they went into the neighbor's ranch and slaughtered, like, I don't know, seven or eight sheep.

01:07:28.000 Wolves be wolfing. 0.96

01:07:29.000 Yeah.

01:07:30.000 That's what they do.

01:07:31.000 That's what they do.

01:07:32.000 Dictators be dictator, and then wolves be wolfing. 0.99

01:07:33.000 They couldn't help themselves.

01:07:35.000 Yeah.

01:07:35.000 Like, that's what they do.

01:07:36.000 Like, some dogs like to chase a ball.

01:07:38.000 Wolves like to kill sheep. 0.87

01:07:39.000 They like to kill sheep.

01:07:40.000 They love it.

01:07:41.000 They are passionate about it.

01:07:43.000 They were covered in blood and they came back to his house. 1.00

01:07:45.000 He's like, oh fucking Christ. 0.99

01:07:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:47.000 But you couldn't teach him shit. 0.99

01:07:48.000 But that was a good time for them. 0.99

01:07:49.000 He was all upset and they were like, what dude?

01:07:52.000 We were just partying.

01:07:53.000 We had a great time.

01:07:54.000 Party.

01:07:55.000 Party.

01:07:55.000 It'd be like us swatting mosquitoes.

01:07:57.000 Yeah.

01:07:58.000 Just fun for them.

01:07:59.000 Normal.

01:07:59.000 That's what they do.

01:08:01.000 I can't believe sometimes when I look at like a chihuahua or whatever, I imagine that that thing shares Like, what is it, 98 or 99% of the same DNA as a wolf, that a wolf and that thing could fuck and make a dog is wild. 0.96

01:08:14.000 Well, if you look at a male feminist and realize their ancestors were probably Vikings. 1.00

01:08:19.000 It's the same thing.

01:08:21.000 That's actually, that's a great analogy.

01:08:24.000 It's the same thing.

01:08:25.000 That's what's happening to men in this country.

01:08:28.000 They're being converted into pugs.

01:08:32.000 Is that a bit?

01:08:34.000 No, but it's really what it is.

01:08:35.000 That's real funny, though.

01:08:36.000 Because they all used to be wolves.

01:08:38.000 Every dog used to be a wolf.

01:08:40.000 Well, dude, that's a great bit.

01:08:41.000 I'm just saying, that is a great bit.

01:08:43.000 But that is what's happening, if you see certain men.

01:08:46.000 And it's also happening because of plastics in the water.

01:08:49.000 I know Chris DeStefano was talking about this recently on his Instagram, but he was incorrect about it.

01:08:55.000 He was saying that it makes you have more of a chance of getting cancer.

01:08:59.000 It's not that.

01:09:01.000 He was talking about taints being smaller.

01:09:03.000 This is a woman named Dr. Shanna Swan, and what they found is that phthalates, which are a particular residue from plastics, it's a chemical that comes from all the petrochemical products that we use, plastics and things you microwave in and things you keep water in,

01:09:20.000 they all leak phthalates.

01:09:22.000 And these phthalates, when applied to mammals, they've done these studies where they show that there's a direct correlation between Phthalates in their bloodstream and babies being born with smaller taints.

01:09:36.000 Is it true?

01:09:37.000 Yes, it is true. 1.00

01:09:38.000 So it's the distance between your dick and your asshole. 1.00

01:09:41.000 In males, in mammals, it's one of the best ways to recognize whether a mammal is a male or a female. 1.00

01:09:48.000 Because, you know, sometimes people see, like, hamsters or a puppy.

01:09:51.000 It's hard to tell if it's a boy or a girl.

01:09:53.000 You've got to look at it real close, especially if it's a furry one.

01:09:55.000 The best way to tell is the taints, because taints on males are 50 to 100 percent larger than taints on females.

01:10:02.000 But because of exposure to phthalates, the taints are growing smaller and smaller.

01:10:08.000 The penis sizes are growing smaller and smaller. 0.99

01:10:10.000 Testicle sizes are growing smaller and smaller. 0.99

01:10:12.000 Sperm counts are dropping.

01:10:14.000 Fertility rates are dropping rapidly.

01:10:15.000 And it all has to do with plastic, which is a part of the modern world.

01:10:20.000 So just like the modern world of throwing meat to these wolves and getting them closer to the campfire led to the domestication of the wolf, which led to them slowly getting turned into collies.

01:10:31.000 That's what's happening to humans.

01:10:33.000 We are literally not just because of our environment and our society and the cushy nature of our existence in 2022, but also the introduction of petrochemical products is a direct correlation.

01:10:44.000 And this woman, Dr. Shanna Swanch, has this book called Countdown. 0.94

01:10:47.000 It's fucking terrifying. 0.52

01:10:49.000 Because she's basically saying that this data wasn't even really uncovered until, was it like 2015, Jamie? 0.98

01:10:56.000 Yeah, it's new.

01:10:57.000 It's for sure new.

01:10:58.000 Very new.

01:10:59.000 This story I saw the other day.

01:11:01.000 Microplastics have been found in air, water, food, and now human blood.

01:11:05.000 Well, yeah, that's the phthalates. 0.83

01:11:06.000 And it's also plastics and also different pesticides and different farming chemicals.

01:11:16.000 Scientists tested the blood of 22 anonymous donors and found microplastics in 80% of them. 0.98

01:11:21.000 This is wild shit man because it's literally changing the hormonal profile and the reproductive systems of human beings and making us weaker. 0.99

01:11:31.000 Making us less masculine. 1.00

01:11:33.000 It's kind of pick your poison though, right?

01:11:34.000 Because like the modern world makes you live longer, but... 1.00

01:11:38.000 Sort of, but you live like a bitch. 1.00

01:11:39.000 You live like a bitch, yeah. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Previous research had found we inhale and ingest enough microplastic pieces of plastic to create a credit card each week. 1.00

01:11:47.000 Holy shit! 0.97

01:11:48.000 But until now, scientists didn't know whether those particles were entering the bloodstream. 0.99

01:11:52.000 Ingest enough microscopic pieces of plastic to create a credit card each week. 1.00

01:11:57.000 Holy fuck, man! 1.00

01:11:59.000 That's a lot. 1.00

01:12:00.000 Holy fuck! 0.99

01:12:00.000 I clicked the thing, it says there's about 2,000 tiny pieces of plastic each week that equal the weight of a credit card. 0.99

01:12:07.000 Damn! 0.99

01:12:08.000 But where's it coming from? 1.00

01:12:10.000 It says, making their way into our food, drinking water, and even air.

01:12:15.000 But it says it's on CNN. They might be lying.

01:12:17.000 Do you shit it out or is it like becoming part of your body and is toxic? 0.99

01:12:21.000 No, it becomes a part of your blood. 0.99

01:12:23.000 It gets in your bloodstream.

01:12:24.000 Brutal.

01:12:24.000 Well, this is the awareness of microplastics and their impact of the environment is increasing.

01:12:28.000 This study has helped provide an accurate calculation of ingestion rates for the first time.

01:12:33.000 So pull up that woman's book, Dr. Shanna Swan. 1.00

01:12:36.000 I recommend everybody, if you don't want to buy her book or get her audio book, please at least listen to her on the podcast because it's fucking wild. 0.63

01:12:44.000 Because when she details the impact, the direct correlation between the invention of these petrochemical products and where we're at right now in terms of like sperm rates, taint sizes, testicle sizes, penis sizes, and with women,

01:13:00.000 it's miscarriage rates and rates of fertility.

01:13:03.000 Everything is getting affected by these plastics.

01:13:06.000 To the point where she's like, you shouldn't use any of that stuff.

01:13:09.000 Don't drink out of plastic bottles, all that. 1.00

01:13:12.000 It's wild shit, man. 1.00

01:13:13.000 It makes sense. 1.00

01:13:15.000 It does make sense, but it's terrifying that we didn't know about it until seven years ago.

01:13:20.000 Yeah.

01:13:21.000 Well, it seems like capitalism pushes something forward because it's cheap and efficient, and it serves the bottom line, and then we find out about the consequences later.

01:13:29.000 The consequences are often inconvenient to the bottom line.

01:13:34.000 They try to suppress it for as long as possible.

01:13:37.000 Is there a way even to live without plastic in this age, without completely revamping the entire society?

01:13:43.000 That would probably take a hundred years.

01:13:45.000 Don't they do, like, recyclable plastic?

01:13:48.000 They know how to make plastic out of potatoes and things like that now.

01:13:52.000 I don't know if it's specifically potatoes, but sometimes you'll see, like, this plastic was made from something.

01:13:56.000 I don't understand it. 1.00

01:13:57.000 It's egghead shit. 1.00

01:13:59.000 I don't know if they still use petrochemical products in making it out of potatoes. 1.00

01:14:03.000 I would imagine they do because they have machines.

01:14:06.000 Maybe it just doesn't get into the actual product, but I know they can make hemp plastic, and hemp plastic is actually biodegradable. 0.98

01:14:15.000 There's a lot of shit they can make off of hemp. 0.98

01:14:17.000 Hemp is an alien plant. 1.00

01:14:19.000 It probably just has to do with if it costs more or not, and plastic is probably the cheaper way.

01:14:25.000 Well, we've been doing it this way for so long. 0.98

01:14:27.000 When did they start using plastics for, like, food and containers and shit? 0.98

01:14:32.000 It was probably, like, the 1950s. 0.99

01:14:35.000 Probably.

01:14:35.000 Right?

01:14:36.000 Good guess.

01:14:36.000 Yeah, when was, like...

01:14:38.000 That's when all, like... 0.82

01:14:39.000 I think styrofoam was a big thing in the 80s, and they were like, that shit's never going to end up out of the landfills. 0.98

01:14:43.000 We've got to stop using styrofoam. 0.99

01:14:45.000 Yeah.

01:14:45.000 Well, think about how many times you drank coffee out of a Styrofoam cup.

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:49.000 If you have hot liquid in that cup, for sure, some of that plastic is getting into your body.

01:14:55.000 Without a doubt.

01:14:55.000 For sure.

01:14:55.000 Large scale plastic production began in the early 50s.

01:14:58.000 There you go.

01:14:58.000 Good call, man.

01:14:59.000 I probably remembered it.

01:15:01.000 But from then to now, you're talking about 70-ish years, and in those 70-ish years, most of what we use needs plastic.

01:15:10.000 Everything has plastic on it.

01:15:11.000 Here's the did-you-know fact on it.

01:15:13.000 It's a lot of plastic.

01:15:14.000 Humanists have produced 18.2 trillion pounds of plastic, the equivalent of one billion elephants.

01:15:22.000 Since large-scale plastic production began in the early 1950s, nearly 80% of that plastic is now in landfills. 1.00

01:15:29.000 Holy fuck. 0.96

01:15:30.000 By 2050, another 26.5 trillion pounds will be produced worldwide. 0.99

01:15:35.000 Plastic flowing in the world's oceans, rivers, and lakes will increase from 11 million metric tons in 2016 to 29 million metric tons Annually, in 2040, the equivalent of dumping 70 pounds of plastic waste along every foot of the world's coastline,

01:15:52.000 according to the research from the Pew Charitable Trusts.

01:15:56.000 You can eat or breathe in about 2,000 tiny plastic particles each week.

01:16:02.000 My God.

01:16:03.000 Most are ingested from bottled water and tap water.

01:16:06.000 Whoa, tap water?

01:16:07.000 Why is tap water?

01:16:08.000 I don't know.

01:16:12.000 But the crazy thing is this is radically affecting our biology, and we didn't even know about it.

01:16:18.000 When that lady was on this podcast, I read the synopsis of her book, and I was like, wow, that'd be interesting. 0.96

01:16:23.000 It was terrifying.

01:16:25.000 I thought what she was going to say was...

01:16:28.000 I had no idea it was going to be that nuts.

01:16:30.000 That is crazy.

01:16:31.000 And that it was about taints.

01:16:33.000 Your taint is a great measure of how much phthalates you came in contact with when you were in the womb.

01:16:45.000 If we keep going, will they collide?

01:16:48.000 Yeah, it'll be a coical, like a duck. 1.00

01:16:51.000 It'll be easier to fuck yourself. 1.00

01:16:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:56.000 Sad.

01:16:57.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:16:57.000 It's not good, but that's I mean if you look at all the shit that's going on today We're like we need to save the taints movement to get this awareness. 0.96

01:17:06.000 I would like to look at Russian taints They're probably very long. 0.99

01:17:10.000 So the more masculine you are, the bigger your taint, essentially.

01:17:12.000 I don't know if that's the case, but it's a direct relationship to the exposure of phthalates that it gets smaller.

01:17:17.000 I don't know if like you have a long, super long taint, it's like more masculine.

01:17:21.000 But on average, male mammals have a 50% to 100% larger taint than the female mammals. 0.99

01:17:28.000 Is there a correlation between dick size and masculinity? 0.97

01:17:31.000 I would imagine there has to be. 0.99

01:17:34.000 Right?

01:17:34.000 I mean, we think of it that way, right?

01:17:37.000 You think of like a masculine man having a big dick, right? 1.00

01:17:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:17:42.000 I don't know.

01:17:42.000 I'm just hoping there's not.

01:17:46.000 And the ancient Greeks, that doesn't say much about what they were doing. 0.95

01:17:49.000 Well, you know, you look at like the ancient Roman statues, they would make tiny dicks small on purpose because they felt like big dicks were like crude. 0.95

01:17:59.000 How did that happen? 0.99

01:18:00.000 Some little dick dude who made sculptures. 0.99

01:18:02.000 I'm telling you, man. 0.99

01:18:03.000 With a little charisma, you can get people to believe anything. 0.99

01:18:06.000 There was a Vice article recently about how little dicks are making a comeback. 1.00

01:18:10.000 What the fuck does that mean? 1.00

01:18:12.000 I'm on board. 0.99

01:18:14.000 According to who?

01:18:15.000 But that's another one of those clicky articles, those clickbait articles.

01:18:19.000 I think at this point it's safe to say there's too many journalists.

01:18:22.000 There's too many quote-unquote journalists.

01:18:23.000 Air quotes.

01:18:24.000 I saw this article about how some movie, what was it, the one with Sharon Stone, what was it, Basic Instinct, and it was an article now about how it was problematic back then, and you could just see the ratio in the comments. 0.97

01:18:38.000 People going like, shut the fuck up, like... 0.97

01:18:42.000 Maybe there's just too many of you guys at this point. 1.00

01:18:45.000 This is not a story.

01:18:46.000 It's not just journalists.

01:18:48.000 It's the journalists that also consider themselves activists, like they're shaping culture and society with their writing and musings, and that they're trying to push a narrative.

01:18:57.000 And that, you know, ultra-progressive, woke narrative.

01:19:01.000 They won't stop with it.

01:19:04.000 They won't.

01:19:05.000 I sent you that thing, Jamie, about the Will Smith thing that's in The Independent.

01:19:09.000 I sent it to you a text message.

01:19:11.000 You showed it before the pod, yeah.

01:19:12.000 Yeah, Jimmy Dore sent this to me. 0.98

01:19:14.000 It's like, what the fuck are you even saying here? 0.99

01:19:18.000 It says, white outrage about Will Smith's slap is rooted in anti-blackness. 1.00

01:19:24.000 It's inequality in plain sight.

01:19:27.000 What?

01:19:27.000 And it's in The Guardian.

01:19:29.000 It's kind of depressing.

01:19:30.000 They just get sucked into wokeness, man. 0.93

01:19:33.000 Yeah, it's just kind of like...

01:19:34.000 Performative pearl clutching.

01:19:36.000 Hey, no.

01:19:37.000 That was violence.

01:19:38.000 If you think violence is cool, you need to tell me where that line ends.

01:19:42.000 Is it just slapping? 0.67

01:19:44.000 Can I kick someone in the face if I don't like what they say? 0.60

01:19:46.000 Where does that end? 0.76

01:19:48.000 You just knew that this incident that was between two guys...

01:19:53.000 Also, they happen to both be African American.

01:19:55.000 At some point, they would be articles blaming white supremacy.

01:20:01.000 You're like, dude, I'm almost impressed by the leap in logic where you're going like, dude, hats off.

01:20:07.000 Yeah, it's impressive.

01:20:08.000 That you're even going for it.

01:20:09.000 Well, it took a solid 48 hours for someone to concoct that.

01:20:13.000 Like, they had to sit there. 0.99

01:20:14.000 You ever see that fucking... 1.00

01:20:15.000 There's a meme of a woman. 1.00

01:20:17.000 There's all these, like, calculations in the background.

01:20:19.000 She's trying to, like, ponder something that doesn't make sense.

01:20:22.000 You seen those?

01:20:23.000 That's them sitting there, like, trying to figure out how to put this and make it white supremacy.

01:20:29.000 It's really...

01:20:30.000 It's inequality in plain sight. 1.00

01:20:32.000 What the fuck are you saying? 0.99

01:20:34.000 The good thing about this is that it's getting so ridiculous now that I think a lot of people who are just like... 1.00

01:20:41.000 Casuals.

01:20:41.000 Casuals are starting to go like, alright, we're starting to see a lot of people's point that this is sort of...

01:20:47.000 It's out of control.

01:20:48.000 It's out of control.

01:20:49.000 Wouldn't you love it if we had that guy on the podcast with us?

01:20:51.000 Please map this out for us.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:53.000 Just you and me and that guy.

01:20:54.000 Yeah.

01:20:55.000 I want to see your astounding logic.

01:20:56.000 Yeah, he'd be like, alright, alright.

01:20:57.000 Now you're going to have to use your imagination a little bit.

01:21:01.000 Pearl clutching.

01:21:02.000 Here's how it is.

01:21:03.000 Pearl clutching.

01:21:04.000 It happened in America.

01:21:05.000 Yeah.

01:21:05.000 And there's racism in the history of America.

01:21:08.000 It's rooted in racism.

01:21:09.000 America was founded on racism.

01:21:11.000 So if it happened in America and it's on television, which is racist.

01:21:14.000 Racist, yeah.

01:21:15.000 And the Academy Awards, which is Academy Oh So White. 0.92

01:21:18.000 Yes.

01:21:18.000 Right?

01:21:19.000 Oscars Oh So White.

01:21:20.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 Everything.

01:21:21.000 I always find the people who are lying always say the most irrelevant things.

01:21:26.000 And that's how you know they're lying.

01:21:27.000 It's just a A bunch of irrelevant information around what's germane to what happened. 1.00

01:21:32.000 That's my bullshit detector. 0.99

01:21:35.000 I'm going like, you're speaking a lot about a lot of tangential irrelevant shit. 1.00

01:21:39.000 You're full of shit. 1.00

01:21:40.000 Well, it's like one of those charts where it's like you're trying to get to the center. 1.00

01:21:45.000 The center is white racism.

01:21:47.000 And you start off with here. 0.99

01:21:48.000 Black man slaps other black man over a joke about a woman. 1.00

01:21:54.000 Misogyny is rooted in white supremacy. 1.00

01:21:57.000 Okay, let's go to that. 0.95

01:21:59.000 Outrage is on television, which is racist.

01:22:02.000 It's all racism.

01:22:03.000 Yeah.

01:22:04.000 Somehow it finds its way back to...

01:22:06.000 You can't?

01:22:07.000 Old reliable.

01:22:08.000 Yeah, you can't let people just go around slapping people.

01:22:14.000 Whether you think it's violence or not, it's violence.

01:22:18.000 It's violence.

01:22:19.000 It's violence.

01:22:20.000 It was violence that happened on TV. It was violent.

01:22:24.000 I think comedians should stop hosting the Oscars so they just tank. 0.99

01:22:28.000 Because it's the only redeemable quality about that circle jerk. 0.87

01:22:32.000 The only reason why anyone tunes in is to hear Ricky Gervais or whatever just, you know, bring it down to earth and have some fun with it because otherwise we're just sitting there watching the most boring, fake award show where studios pay for those awards. 0.95

01:22:49.000 Did they really win?

01:22:50.000 It's a matter of taste.

01:22:52.000 They don't even have a comedy category. 1.00

01:22:53.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:22:54.000 Yeah, go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:22:55.000 Well, can they even have a comedy category anymore? 1.00

01:22:58.000 We were talking about this the other day.

01:23:00.000 We were talking about all the great comedy movies, like Step Brothers and, you know, there's so many great movies.

01:23:06.000 Like, could you make that movie today?

01:23:08.000 No.

01:23:08.000 You couldn't make The Office today.

01:23:10.000 No.

01:23:11.000 I've read articles about Friends being problematic.

01:23:14.000 I've read articles about everything being problematic.

01:23:17.000 You couldn't do anything today.

01:23:18.000 I think stand-up comedy and maybe even more so memes on the internet is the last bastion of comedy in this crazy era.

01:23:28.000 Because memes, one of the beautiful things about memes is they're not credited.

01:23:31.000 So you have no idea who made this hilarious meme and they just sent it out there and it's out there in the world.

01:23:37.000 Yeah, that's how you know you're living at a crazy time.

01:23:39.000 Like Mark Twain was not his real name, it was a pen name.

01:23:43.000 A lot of people back then had pen names because they were saying things that were sort of not accepted at the time and they didn't want the backlash.

01:23:51.000 And that was a time when there was slavery, which is as backwards as you can get. 0.85

01:23:54.000 We're getting into a backwards time now.

01:23:56.000 If you want to say something true or make a real joke, you're going to have to hide behind some sort of anonymity.

01:24:01.000 It's getting bad.

01:24:02.000 It's getting weird.

01:24:03.000 It is getting weird.

01:24:04.000 It's getting really weird.

01:24:05.000 It's getting weird, but there's a lot of pushback now. 1.00

01:24:07.000 Like you saw the pushback with Chappelle, where people are like, no, no, no, fuck you. 0.99

01:24:11.000 Because the difference between... 0.99

01:24:12.000 The Chappelle thing with his last special was the best example of it, in my opinion, because you saw the difference between the way critics rated his performance.

01:24:21.000 So when they had the critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes, it was like, everybody hated it.

01:24:26.000 It was like 3% on Rotten Tomatoes, and then the public rated it, and it was like 98%.

01:24:32.000 So I was like, okay, well obviously there's some sort of a divide.

01:24:36.000 There's a huge disconnect happening here.

01:24:38.000 Yeah, because the people that watched it loved it.

01:24:41.000 And the people that rated it, because they rated it for these publications that are essentially run by activists, they decided it didn't fit the narrative and they hated it and they said it was problematic.

01:24:51.000 It's crazy.

01:24:52.000 The disconnect is crazy.

01:24:54.000 Now, with like Leah Thomas, you see how the people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:25:01.000 Okay, this is getting crazy.

01:25:02.000 But the establishment is still going like, hey, this is fine.

01:25:05.000 This is great.

01:25:06.000 What if Leah Thomas is just going undercover? 1.00

01:25:11.000 Like 21 Jump Street.

01:25:12.000 To crack rokeness?

01:25:13.000 Or just doing some sort of gender research, or to crack... 1.00

01:25:17.000 Maybe it's like 21 Jump Street, she's going undercover as a woman. 0.91

01:25:21.000 Maybe there's some huge corruption going on in collegiate swimming, in female collegiate swimming, and she's just getting in there. 1.00

01:25:29.000 That would be good.

01:25:30.000 What it is now is not good.

01:25:32.000 What it is now is assault on women's sports. 1.00

01:25:34.000 And the idea that anybody would think it's fair that someone who is number 462 as a man, 462 in the nation, is number one as a woman a year later.

01:25:43.000 And that's fair.

01:25:44.000 You don't think maybe it was her passion for swimming that got her to number one?

01:25:48.000 Could be.

01:25:49.000 It's just an amazing moment.

01:25:49.000 Or a change in diet?

01:25:50.000 Could be.

01:25:51.000 Could be that.

01:25:51.000 Could be.

01:25:52.000 Maybe just becoming her true self.

01:25:54.000 I can't think of any other factor it could be.

01:25:56.000 I'm just going passion for swimming.

01:25:58.000 Maybe.

01:25:59.000 You're probably right.

01:26:01.000 But that might be the woke straw that breaks society's camel back.

01:26:06.000 You're starting to see a lot of those now.

01:26:07.000 Women are so frustrated. 1.00

01:26:10.000 Or parents.

01:26:11.000 If your daughter is competing, and they're competing against a trans woman, it's not fair. 1.00

01:26:17.000 It's just not fair, no matter what anybody says.

01:26:19.000 There's this nonsense idea of like, well, there's outliers.

01:26:23.000 There's outliers, and then there's biological males.

01:26:25.000 Right.

01:26:26.000 That's beyond outliers.

01:26:27.000 There's always exceptions.

01:26:28.000 The ancient Greeks, you say there's no rule without an exception, but you can't define what it is based on the exceptions.

01:26:35.000 Well, it's interesting because in all other aspects of society, it's pretty much a given that, you know, a person can become trans and change their name, and we're all pretty accepting of it.

01:26:47.000 Where people have the most pushback is in sports.

01:26:51.000 Right.

01:26:52.000 Athletic competition.

01:26:52.000 That's where the real pushback is.

01:26:54.000 Right. 1.00

01:26:56.000 The fuck? 1.00

01:26:57.000 Right. 1.00

01:26:57.000 This is not fair. 1.00

01:26:58.000 This is clearly not fair.

01:27:00.000 There's a reason why we have a distinction between men and women's sports. 0.99

01:27:03.000 And it's ironic because the people on that side usually always champion equality and Nobody having an advantage, and the people who are maybe disenfranchised or less capable should have an equal opportunity,

01:27:20.000 and by throwing someone like Leah Thomas in there, you're kind of...

01:27:27.000 That's the opposite of that.

01:27:28.000 I think it's also probably terrible for the whole trans movement because it makes people more cynical about what the positive aspects of it are and it makes people more, you know, less likely to accept it because they think of,

01:27:45.000 now they think of trans people and trans rights and they connect it to this athletic thing.

01:27:50.000 That's a great point.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, that's a, yeah.

01:27:52.000 It's probably making people more just trustful or more upset or less accepting.

01:27:57.000 People just go too extreme.

01:27:58.000 I mean, it's just such an obvious thing.

01:28:03.000 The advantage that anyone who's born biologically male, especially someone who transitions after puberty, I mean, it's so obvious.

01:28:11.000 Otherwise, you would see a bunch of trans men, you know, women transitioning into men competing on a Division I level or in the NBA or NFL, which you'll never see.

01:28:22.000 And we all know why you'll never see that.

01:28:24.000 It's because men are bigger and stronger.

01:28:26.000 So why does that rule apply to To trans men and not to trans women.

01:28:32.000 It's the same.

01:28:33.000 It's their biological men by nature, bigger, stronger, faster.

01:28:38.000 There will never be a trans man that will beat Odell Beckham Jr. in a route race.

01:28:43.000 Not only that, you can't compete as a trans man because you can't compete if you're taking exogenous testosterone. 0.97

01:28:51.000 They test you for that stuff.

01:28:52.000 They do these carbon isotope tests where they can test to see if you're taking...

01:28:57.000 Because testosterone, if you're taking it synthetically, it's actually made out from wild yams, believe it or not.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, that's how they synthesize artificial or exogenous testosterone.

01:29:11.000 It's not artificial, it's real.

01:29:12.000 It's just synthetic.

01:29:14.000 So they wouldn't even let them compete?

01:29:16.000 No, you can't compete if you take testosterone.

01:29:19.000 That's why men, they used to have exemptions in the UFC for men to take testosterone if you had low testosterone.

01:29:27.000 It was a testosterone use exemption. 0.97

01:29:29.000 But the TRT problem was that guys were taking enormous amounts of it and they were fucking men up.

01:29:36.000 There's a direct correlation between the amount of testosterone you have, physical performance, your ability to recover quicker, and also aggression and confidence. 0.99

01:29:44.000 These guys were getting juiced to the tits and go out there and fuck people up. 0.99

01:29:48.000 And so then they came along and they regulated it and they said no more testosterone replacement. 1.00

01:29:52.000 And so then you saw these guys' physiques melt.

01:29:55.000 Interesting.

01:29:56.000 And this is when USADA came along.

01:29:57.000 USADA came along and started testing everybody.

01:29:59.000 First they abandoned the TRT. They wouldn't let people have exemptions.

01:30:03.000 And then once they did that, then USADA came along and started testing everybody for everything.

01:30:08.000 And then physiques just melted.

01:30:10.000 Well, I don't think you should be allowed.

01:30:12.000 I guess that's...

01:30:14.000 Great for guys, but I think they should allow trans men to try to compete.

01:30:18.000 Because that'll be just hilarious. 1.00

01:30:19.000 The problem is, what if a trans man just decides to juice up like a fucking werewolf? 1.00

01:30:24.000 God bless her and him. 0.99

01:30:26.000 I mean, if there is a trans man who can compete in the NBA or NFL, I'm rooting for him.

01:30:31.000 Could you imagine?

01:30:32.000 I'm rooting for him. 1.00

01:30:33.000 Imagine if you got a female WNBA player and you taught her martial arts and juiced her up and had her fuck Francis Ngannou up. 1.00

01:30:39.000 I want to see it. 0.99

01:30:40.000 Could you imagine?

01:30:41.000 I can't imagine.

01:30:42.000 It's 2022. There's a lot that I can't imagine.

01:30:45.000 Their clits grow. 1.00

01:30:46.000 You know that, right? 1.00

01:30:46.000 They grow like a little dick. 1.00

01:30:48.000 I'm listening. 1.00

01:30:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:50.000 When you take a lot of testosterone and you're a female, your clitoris grows. 1.00

01:30:55.000 Easier to find. 0.99

01:30:56.000 Yeah, I guess. 1.00

01:30:59.000 More meat to suck on? 1.00

01:31:01.000 Yeah, but would you be cool with sucking on a thumb-sized clit? 1.00

01:31:04.000 I got no problem with it. 1.00

01:31:05.000 Okay.

01:31:06.000 Yeah, I got no problem with it.

01:31:07.000 I'm Greek.

01:31:07.000 I'm halfway there.

01:31:08.000 I'm not gay, but if I went to prison, I'm pretty good at it. 1.00

01:31:11.000 You're open.

01:31:12.000 You're open-minded.

01:31:13.000 It's in the DNA. No, yeah, I mean, I got no problem with that.

01:31:16.000 So if you took massive amounts for a long period of time, which the thing is, they do have examples of that with female bodybuilders. 1.00

01:31:25.000 Female bodybuilders, and it wrecks their body. 1.00

01:31:29.000 They get ovarian cysts and all sorts of real problems, and they have to take DHT blockers.

01:31:36.000 It's horrible for them.

01:31:38.000 At the very least, we can all admit that modernity has kind of created a lot of gray zones in sports because of supplements.

01:31:46.000 So it is...

01:31:47.000 There are things to address, right?

01:31:50.000 Regardless of the trans issue.

01:31:52.000 It's kind of like what people are taking, what they're not taking, and what's fair and not fair.

01:31:56.000 That's why this exists in the first place, right?

01:31:58.000 Because there is no real balanced playing field because not everybody starts out the same way genetically.

01:32:02.000 Some people are just born better athletes than others.

01:32:05.000 Some people are born taller.

01:32:06.000 Some people are born they can run faster.

01:32:08.000 Some people are born physically stronger.

01:32:10.000 And then you have to take into consideration where did you grow up?

01:32:13.000 Like, do you have access to better food?

01:32:15.000 Do you have access to better coaching?

01:32:17.000 Do you have access to better recovery methods?

01:32:20.000 When you start competing and then you have...

01:32:22.000 If you've got money, then you have access to all sorts of things that you can afford if you're poor.

01:32:27.000 Like, is that...

01:32:28.000 How much of an advantage is it to have great vitamin supplementation and great food and, you know, recovery methods and...

01:32:35.000 Regular massage and all these different things that people that are elite athletes have access to.

01:32:41.000 So what would you propose as a good way to regulate it?

01:32:46.000 For trans people?

01:32:47.000 Or athletics?

01:32:48.000 Just taking trans people out of the equation, just athletics. 1.00

01:32:50.000 How would you regulate everyone's levels?

01:32:52.000 What would you make it legal or legal?

01:32:55.000 I think that the real problem is going to come along when gene therapy gets introduced to athletes, and it's probably already been introduced on a foreign level. 0.89

01:33:02.000 In other countries where it's not regulated the way we regulate things here, I guarantee you they're experimenting with gene therapy on a variety of athletes.

01:33:10.000 I could guarantee it.

01:33:12.000 I guarantee they're doing that.

01:33:13.000 And when they start doing that, and there's things that they are capable of doing, like there's some examples like...

01:33:23.000 There's gene editing that would make you have...

01:33:27.000 There's a thing called myostatin inhibitors.

01:33:29.000 And myostatin is what regulates the muscle size of the body.

01:33:33.000 And once they introduce myostatin inhibitors into the genetics of athletes, you're going to get supercharged athletes who are built like the Hulk.

01:33:42.000 Have you ever seen those cows that have a gene error and it's a myostatin inhibitor that's in their genetics and they have enormous muscles?

01:33:51.000 Because their muscles don't get the signal to stop growing at a specific point.

01:33:55.000 They just keep growing.

01:33:56.000 The best example is whippets.

01:33:58.000 You know that dog, a whippet?

01:33:59.000 Yeah.

01:33:59.000 They're like a real thin dog, right?

01:34:01.000 Well, in a small percentage of Whippets, they're born with this unusual gene that doesn't regulate myostatin.

01:34:09.000 And so myostatin, this myostatin inhibitor that they have as a gene allows them to grow like that.

01:34:19.000 Wow. 0.97

01:34:19.000 Yeah, so they like have, you know, I don't know, four or five times the fucking muscle? 0.97

01:34:23.000 That's in a cow. 0.97

01:34:25.000 So see if you can get an article that explains what that was.

01:34:28.000 So that's a real cow. 1.00

01:34:29.000 It's a female cow with massive muscles. 1.00

01:34:33.000 And that's myostatins.

01:34:35.000 Okay, so here it goes, myostatins.

01:34:36.000 What do they mean for your herd?

01:34:38.000 Let's see what it says there.

01:34:39.000 Wow.

01:34:39.000 But this is a thing they think they're going to be able to do with humans, and there have been some humans that were born with this very rare genetic disorder.

01:34:47.000 Okay, the most obvious departure from normal in the phenotype of a double-muscled animal is the enlargement of the muscle, particularly in the rump or shoulder areas.

01:34:55.000 Okay, myostatin is a gene mutation that results in unregulated muscle growth or double-muscling most commonly seen in beef breeds such as British Blue and Limousine.

01:35:08.000 There are nine variants of the mutation that occur in differing levels of different breeds.

01:35:14.000 So this is with cows.

01:35:16.000 But they have observed it in certain humans, like certain humans where we're born.

01:35:21.000 Increased susceptibility to respiratory disease, probably due to increased demands on aerobic metabolic activity, increased meat tenderness and yield.

01:35:30.000 These mutations do not operate in isolation, but interact with other genes in ways that are, as yet, poorly understood.

01:35:36.000 It is often the case that one copy of the variant, while increasing muscle mass, may not bring with it any of the negative side effects mentioned above.

01:35:46.000 If they can introduce that into a large population of wrestlers, I mean, whatever country has that would dominate wrestling.

01:35:56.000 If they had great technique and elite athletes, like great genetics, and then they introduced this, and they just had unregulated muscle growth, so they were far stronger than anyone else, far more athletic, far more explosive, literally the Hulk.

01:36:10.000 You can make Hulk people.

01:36:12.000 They would be built like the Hulk and the Avengers.

01:36:14.000 And then maybe AI may play a role in the future too, right?

01:36:19.000 I mean, imagine if the Neuralink goes in your brain and then you can telepathically know what the Defender is and then you've got to turn off your Neuralink and you go, ah, that guy was secretly using his Neuralink or whatever.

01:36:32.000 Right, yeah.

01:36:33.000 It's going to get wild.

01:36:34.000 Or you could also maybe download every wrestling move that was ever invented.

01:36:40.000 And instead of training and, you know, doing it for years and years and breaking it down, you know, so that it's a part of your instincts, you could get it so that it's literally dialed into your neurosystem from a download.

01:36:55.000 The future is...

01:36:57.000 Wild.

01:36:57.000 Wild!

01:36:58.000 Wild.

01:36:59.000 Yeah.

01:37:00.000 I mean, we are cave people.

01:37:02.000 We just don't know it.

01:37:03.000 We're literally Neanderthals.

01:37:05.000 We're just primitive man.

01:37:08.000 We just think we're advanced because we have cell phones.

01:37:11.000 But we are still trapped in this monkey body.

01:37:14.000 This biologically similar monkey body to people who lived 10,000 years ago.

01:37:20.000 But 10,000 years from now, I think this body is going to be unrecognizable.

01:37:24.000 I think we are going to be freaks.

01:37:26.000 I think this...

01:37:27.000 Because you're not going to stop people from doing this in other countries.

01:37:31.000 And if we want to compete with them, if there's an athletic proving ground like the Olympics where countries are going to send their best and their brightest to compete against other countries to show...

01:37:41.000 National superiority, you're going to have people using these genetic editing tools and then everything else that gets invented that shows peak performance and shows that you can accelerate people past what the physical limitations of the normal human body are.

01:37:57.000 Could probably even be an advantage in comedy. 0.98

01:38:00.000 Oh fuck yeah. 0.99

01:38:01.000 Dudes are just downloading stuff. 1.00

01:38:03.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:03.000 Yeah.

01:38:04.000 And you'd be smarter.

01:38:05.000 Like you'd know like what really triggers people.

01:38:07.000 Yeah.

01:38:08.000 Once an AI comes along, they can write great jokes.

01:38:10.000 Oh god. 1.00

01:38:10.000 We're fucked. 1.00

01:38:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:12.000 We're fucked. 1.00

01:38:13.000 I don't want to follow that dude. 1.00

01:38:15.000 Is that robot there tonight?

01:38:16.000 I'm not coming down.

01:38:17.000 But here's the thing.

01:38:18.000 Like could an AI ever recreate a Mitch Hedberg?

01:38:21.000 Right?

01:38:21.000 Because Mitch Hedberg's jokes, like even on paper, they don't make sense.

01:38:24.000 They only make sense coming out of him.

01:38:26.000 I don't think AI will ever be able to be as creative as humans because AI will never be able to enjoy drugs.

01:38:37.000 Drugs attribute...

01:38:38.000 You can attribute a lot of creativity to drugs.

01:38:40.000 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

01:38:41.000 Will AI be able to get high and just think about shit? 0.99

01:38:46.000 Maybe AI can figure out what is the pathway that is traveled on in order for a drug to work? 1.00

01:38:55.000 What is the thought process?

01:38:57.000 Because AI is basically psychopaths.

01:38:59.000 Kind of, right?

01:39:00.000 Because they don't have emotions.

01:39:01.000 They don't have emotions or anything. 1.00

01:39:02.000 They're basically psychopaths.

01:39:03.000 They'll be able to do everything well, but they won't have that little magic that comes from our vulnerability and our insecurities that makes great art.

01:39:10.000 The thing about people like us, we grew up without the internet.

01:39:15.000 Yeah.

01:39:15.000 You know, when we were kids, we didn't have an iPad.

01:39:19.000 We didn't have an iPhone.

01:39:20.000 When you went to school, you couldn't just Google the homework and Google the information and get the answers.

01:39:26.000 You had to read books.

01:39:27.000 You had to learn.

01:39:28.000 You had to talk to your friends.

01:39:29.000 You had to call them up.

01:39:30.000 I remember when they first came up with answering machines.

01:39:32.000 It was wild.

01:39:33.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 You'd call somebody.

01:39:34.000 Yeah.

01:39:35.000 You'd leave a message.

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:36.000 And you would come home.

01:39:37.000 You'd see that little red light flashing like, wow, somebody likes me.

01:39:40.000 You'd press a button.

01:39:42.000 Yeah.

01:39:42.000 Hey, Joe, it's Giannis.

01:39:44.000 You want to play later?

01:39:45.000 You get real disappointed if it was like, this is AT&T. You're like, I thought it was a friend.

01:39:50.000 Fuck off. 1.00

01:39:51.000 And then remember when you had caller ID? Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:39:55.000 Caller ID came on.

01:39:56.000 You knew who was calling.

01:39:57.000 Then you started not picking up. 1.00

01:39:58.000 This fucking guy. 1.00

01:39:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:00.000 Yeah.

01:40:00.000 That's what maybe when we first started isolating was caller ID. People started maybe starting to withdraw more and more and more.

01:40:07.000 Or you get to be more selective, not talk to idiots. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:11.000 See someone calling, you're like, yikes.

01:40:13.000 There was something cool about not knowing who it was, though.

01:40:15.000 Like a little surprise.

01:40:17.000 You know what the cool thing was?

01:40:18.000 The risky thing.

01:40:18.000 When you're calling and you had the beep that would come in, hold on, someone else is calling.

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 You gotta take a chance.

01:40:24.000 Do you remember when you would, I don't know if you ever did this, but like if you were trying to get information from someone, you had someone on the phone with the three-way and they didn't know the other person was there?

01:40:34.000 People did that a lot.

01:40:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:36.000 Yeah, and they were silently listening.

01:40:37.000 You could do that with three-way when you could, conference calling started.

01:40:40.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:41.000 That's a sneaky move.

01:40:42.000 You did that?

01:40:42.000 I never did that.

01:40:43.000 Did you do that?

01:40:44.000 In high school, it happened. 0.99

01:40:46.000 Someone was talking shit about somebody? 1.00

01:40:48.000 Someone was talking shit. 1.00

01:40:48.000 Be like, I'm going to put you on the phone. 1.00

01:40:49.000 You were ganging up on somebody. 1.00

01:40:51.000 Be like, gotcha, bitch! 1.00

01:40:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:54.000 All that stuff.

01:40:55.000 And then I remember the first phone I had.

01:40:57.000 I had a phone in my car in the 80s.

01:41:00.000 Wow!

01:41:01.000 You were making money like that in the 80s?

01:41:03.000 No, I barely could afford it.

01:41:05.000 I really shouldn't have had it.

01:41:09.000 But it did come into handy because I would get gigs.

01:41:13.000 Bill Blumenwright talks about it to this day.

01:41:15.000 Bill Blumenwright, who owns the Wiltern Theater in Boston.

01:41:19.000 I've known him forever.

01:41:21.000 And he goes, Back in the 80s, you were the first guy to have a phone.

01:41:24.000 I could call you up and get you gigs.

01:41:26.000 Yeah.

01:41:26.000 Because I'd be on the road if somebody canceled.

01:41:28.000 They got a flat tire.

01:41:29.000 They got in a car accident.

01:41:30.000 They couldn't make it.

01:41:31.000 He would be able to call me up and give me a gig.

01:41:34.000 And it happened multiple times.

01:41:35.000 Was it the size of a shoe?

01:41:36.000 It was connected to the car.

01:41:38.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 Because it was in the car.

01:41:39.000 It was sitting in between the seats.

01:41:40.000 And you pick it up and talk on it.

01:41:43.000 Yeah.

01:41:43.000 Was the reception good and everything?

01:41:45.000 It was terrible.

01:41:46.000 It was terrible.

01:41:47.000 Terrible.

01:41:47.000 Yeah.

01:41:47.000 It was super expensive too.

01:41:48.000 Like if you were roaming, like if you drove, still in Massachusetts, you drove to a different part of the state, you got hit with roaming charges.

01:41:56.000 It was like a buck a minute or something crazy.

01:41:58.000 Yeah.

01:41:59.000 I remember those days when you couldn't call anyone in a different state because you'd get nailed in prices.

01:42:05.000 Well, you remember when you had long-distance rates?

01:42:07.000 Yeah.

01:42:07.000 You would call someone in New York if you were living in California.

01:42:09.000 It was like, you could only talk for so long because it was fucking expensive. 0.97

01:42:13.000 Yeah, no. 0.81

01:42:13.000 If you had a family member who went to California and New York, you just hoped they were okay. 0.81

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 You couldn't call and check on them.

01:42:21.000 Unless you really loved somebody, you were going to check on them.

01:42:24.000 If you didn't, you were like, you know what?

01:42:26.000 You would actually monetize how much you cared about them to call California.

01:42:31.000 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 Is checking up on them worth $3.99 a minute?

01:42:35.000 No, it's not.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:42:37.000 Yeah, so you'd send them a letter.

01:42:38.000 Yeah, send a letter.

01:42:40.000 Are you good?

01:42:40.000 Are things good, son?

01:42:41.000 Which is still the most amazing bargain.

01:42:43.000 They can put a 25-cent stamp on whatever it was at the time, and you would send a letter across the whole country.

01:42:49.000 Yeah.

01:42:50.000 Someone would deliver it for you.

01:42:51.000 Yeah.

01:42:51.000 Bring it to a guy in New Hampshire.

01:42:53.000 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 That system was around for a while. 0.94

01:42:57.000 The post office is kind of fucking amazing. 0.96

01:42:59.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:43:00.000 The fact that that has existed for so long that you could just send things in the mail.

01:43:04.000 But now email is even more amazing.

01:43:06.000 Way better.

01:43:07.000 And what you're basically saying is that's going to happen in sports and everything else.

01:43:11.000 You're going to look at an athlete and be like, that dude's kind of like the post office now because this dude's got the neural link in.

01:43:16.000 He's taking this supplement and can't compete anymore.

01:43:19.000 Well, once genetic editing comes into place, there's going to be no more exceptions.

01:43:24.000 In the beginning, the problem is the haves and the have-nots would be further divided than they've ever been before.

01:43:30.000 And Elon was actually talking about this with the Neuralink.

01:43:33.000 He was saying that one of the problems is going to be that the access to information is going to be so incredible for someone who has the Neuralink in, That their bandwidth, their ability to be productive is going to be so much greater.

01:43:49.000 They're going to get so far ahead.

01:43:50.000 So if they're competing in business, if you're competing in anything that requires your intellectual capacity, it's going to be greatly expanded. 0.98

01:43:59.000 And so people that are kind of making their way up and can't afford a Neuralink, you're never going to be able to compete with these fucking... 0.99

01:44:05.000 Guys like Bill Gates, they're immediately going to get a hole drilled in their fucking head and get that stuck in there. 0.99

01:44:09.000 All these super competitive billionaire characters, they're going to accumulate insane amounts of wealth. 1.00

01:44:16.000 Right.

01:44:16.000 So do you think, since it's going to be this sort of potpourri of different levels, maybe, just for the sake of argument, what if we let trans athletes compete?

01:44:28.000 Because then maybe nature kicks in and then women have to figure out a way to compete with the trans athletes. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Woman, and maybe they evolve. 1.00

01:44:37.000 Maybe that would force women's athletics into being watchable! 1.00

01:44:42.000 How dare you.

01:44:43.000 I'm kidding.

01:44:44.000 I'm joking.

01:44:45.000 But you don't want that, man.

01:44:46.000 I love female tennis. 1.00

01:44:47.000 You don't want women to become men. 1.00

01:44:49.000 You want, you know...

01:44:51.000 But, you know, whatever you want doesn't matter.

01:44:53.000 We're on a path and it's not a path that cares about our sensibilities or our hopes for the future.

01:45:00.000 It's a path that seems obsessed with technological innovation.

01:45:05.000 You know, that's the thing that like you're not going to avoid that, man.

01:45:08.000 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

01:45:09.000 Like, if you can't avoid it anyway, why not let it happen and then see how humans evolve?

01:45:14.000 Maybe that will be the impetus for women to become... 1.00

01:45:19.000 Like, imagine beating...

01:45:21.000 Imagine being the woman who, like, legitimately beats... 1.00

01:45:24.000 A trans woman? 0.71

01:45:25.000 A trans woman who was... 0.74

01:45:26.000 And I'll be specific with Leah Thomas because I think it's relevant...

01:45:30.000 She was a male swimmer a year ago.

01:45:33.000 Right.

01:45:33.000 So it's real.

01:45:34.000 I mean, that is different.

01:45:35.000 You have to admit, like, that is different from competing against somebody who transitioned prepubescent.

01:45:39.000 Yeah.

01:45:39.000 All those factors.

01:45:40.000 Yeah.

01:45:41.000 Like...

01:45:41.000 Yeah, that's different.

01:45:42.000 Yeah.

01:45:42.000 Imagine being a woman who finally, you know, and now she has a target to get better at.

01:45:48.000 Like, you know, a lot of times if you don't have, you know, the competition breeds the evolution.

01:45:54.000 It breeds the...

01:45:58.000 The motivation to want to...

01:46:00.000 Yeah, but what if that motivation is a woman has to turn into a man, or has to adopt many of the characteristics of a man, or has to accept some sort of genetic editing, some sort of genetic editing that allows her to keep her double X chromosomes, but has the physical capacity of a XY, 0.92

01:46:15.000 of a male.

01:46:16.000 Well, maybe they'll be more chill to watch TV with, you know?

01:46:19.000 Maybe they'll be more chill to hang out with.

01:46:21.000 Maybe they won't want to just watch murder mysteries. 0.96

01:46:23.000 Yeah, maybe Bravo won't be fucking on as much. 0.91

01:46:26.000 I wonder if anybody's in a study. 0.94

01:46:28.000 What is this?

01:46:29.000 Her last race, she got eighth. 0.96

01:46:31.000 Of course she did.

01:46:31.000 But there was another transgender racer that got fifth.

01:46:35.000 Which is hilarious. 0.97

01:46:35.000 But when she got eighth, I mean, how many times has she been like, listen, maybe I'll fucking sandbag this one. 0.97

01:46:41.000 It doesn't make sense otherwise. 0.90

01:46:42.000 Maybe I need to slow it down a little bit.

01:46:44.000 Yeah, I mean, she won when it mattered, but then in some other race, she was like, I'll come in eighth. 0.97

01:46:48.000 How come you haven't heard of the other one, though?

01:46:49.000 But she's breaking records. 0.99

01:46:50.000 It's not just that she's winning.

01:46:53.000 She's breaking records. 1.00

01:46:54.000 And she's breaking records as a biological male who allegedly still has a penis. 1.00

01:46:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:00.000 Which means there's some level of testosterone.

01:47:02.000 It's also that there's a guy, DerekMorePlatesMoreDates.com, who's got a YouTube video, who breaks down what the thresholds are for a trans athlete versus for a biological female.

01:47:15.000 And the testosterone thresholds for a trans athlete, I believe, are quite a bit higher than they are for the average biological female.

01:47:23.000 Right. 0.99

01:47:24.000 There's a lot of weird shit to it, but man... 0.99

01:47:26.000 I think where this is all going, unfortunately, is cyborgs. 0.99

01:47:31.000 I think we're going to be cyborgs.

01:47:33.000 And I think we're going to be cyborgs quicker than we think.

01:47:35.000 I think it's going to happen very fast because I think if you look at the adoption of phones, like how quickly we adopted it.

01:47:44.000 From 2007?

01:47:47.000 7 was the year where the iPhone came out.

01:47:51.000 And if you go before that, the amount of phone use, cell phone use from 2000 to 2007 was steady increasing.

01:47:58.000 But then iPhones came along. 0.99

01:48:00.000 Now everybody has a fucking cell phone. 0.99

01:48:03.000 Virtually everybody you meet. 1.00

01:48:05.000 99% of the people you meet have a phone.

01:48:08.000 And that was unthought of when I was a child, that everybody would have a phone they carry with them everywhere they go.

01:48:15.000 That's crazy.

01:48:15.000 So inside my lifetime, what it means to be a human being in the modern world has radically changed because of a very small device That fits right in your pocket.

01:48:26.000 It changes everything.

01:48:28.000 And this, somehow or another, so much power that you could use it all fucking day long. 0.94

01:48:32.000 Yeah.

01:48:32.000 Recognizes your face to unlock itself, or your fingerprint.

01:48:36.000 How long before the next thing comes along that moves in a more, like, think about The human beings invented writing.

01:48:45.000 Then they invented the printing press.

01:48:47.000 Then they invented digital.

01:48:49.000 They invented the digital photography and the ability to publish online.

01:48:53.000 They invented video and film and video flying through the air and cell phone signals.

01:48:57.000 Like all these things are just radical changes in the ability to express yourself and the ability to access information.

01:49:05.000 Radical, radical changes.

01:49:06.000 The next thing that comes along, if it's Neuralink or Or if it's something similar, there's probably going to be a bunch of competing technologies, someone's going to figure out something that makes a super person.

01:49:16.000 And if that someone gets together with these biologists who work on these myostatin inhibitors, and they figure out how to gene edit so you can fucking live 500, 1000 years, and you've got some super intelligent Hulk creature What we used to think of as a human being.

01:49:33.000 This is all inside probability.

01:49:37.000 Right.

01:49:37.000 Like those cows and the whippets, they're real things.

01:49:40.000 Right.

01:49:40.000 The technology that exists, we already have technology that has allowed a person who's paralyzed from the neck down to use his mind to control a cursor.

01:49:50.000 And you know the first thing he said?

01:49:51.000 I want a beer.

01:49:53.000 I saw that.

01:49:54.000 I saw that article, yeah.

01:49:55.000 So this guy, some crazy illness or something, right?

01:49:59.000 Wasn't it?

01:49:59.000 Yeah, he was paralyzed.

01:50:02.000 ALS? So can't move, but can use his mind to move around a cursor and request a beer.

01:50:08.000 Yeah.

01:50:09.000 And so we know that you can communicate rudimentarily with your mind.

01:50:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:50:14.000 How long before you can do it person to person through some sort of a Bluetooth type deal where you and I, instead of like airdropping pictures to each other, you know, you can send me a photo of your dick and I'll be like, ah! 0.98

01:50:25.000 It's just probably what humans will do. 1.00

01:50:27.000 Or, you know, you could send a video that you watch, and I can watch it in my fucking head. 1.00

01:50:33.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:50:33.000 Straight from your head. 1.00

01:50:34.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:50:35.000 That's coming, man.

01:50:36.000 Yeah.

01:50:36.000 I mean, we think that's so crazy, but it's so crazy that you could get something on your phone where you can send me things like that.

01:50:43.000 Yeah.

01:50:43.000 It's probably not that far away, man.

01:50:45.000 It's probably not that far away.

01:50:46.000 Maybe a decade, maybe two, maybe three, but that's going to be...

01:50:50.000 Like, that's nothing in the greater scheme of the world.

01:50:52.000 If you had a...

01:50:54.000 Say now.

01:50:54.000 You have to make a guess.

01:50:55.000 From now to 30 years from now, how wild are the changes going to be?

01:51:00.000 Are they going to be kind of sort of wild, interesting, not much different, or are they going to be just exponentially more spectacular?

01:51:09.000 They've got to be the latter.

01:51:11.000 It's going to be the latter.

01:51:13.000 I mean, because if you put it into context like you just did, from when you grew up to now, the growth is...

01:51:20.000 Extreme, so that obviously points to it's going to continue to be there.

01:51:25.000 It's not going to stop.

01:51:26.000 And we're obsessed with the newest stuff.

01:51:28.000 I have an iPhone 13 here.

01:51:30.000 It works great, but I can't wait for the iPhone 14. Why?

01:51:33.000 I don't know.

01:51:34.000 I don't know.

01:51:35.000 It's not going to do anything any different.

01:51:36.000 I still have an iPhone 11. One of my other phones, an iPhone 11. It works great.

01:51:41.000 It works great.

01:51:41.000 I never had a problem with it.

01:51:42.000 I use it.

01:51:43.000 I make phone calls.

01:51:44.000 The pictures look great, but I would never buy one now.

01:51:47.000 I want a 14. Give me a 14. Capitalism motivates that, because it's like the new thing to make money, the new thing to make money.

01:51:52.000 And materialism, which is a weird fucking thing that human beings are attached to that other animals aren't. 0.98

01:51:57.000 Right. 0.98

01:51:58.000 I mean, like my dog, you know, I have my daughter's dog with me right now for a little bit, who's like a little chihuahua, whippet mix, a little tiny fella, and they compete over toys.

01:52:08.000 Like, they steal toys from each other.

01:52:09.000 But I think there's a weird sort of jealousy that dogs have.

01:52:14.000 They get jealous of the other dogs getting pet.

01:52:15.000 They come over, they want to get pet too.

01:52:17.000 There's this weird thing.

01:52:18.000 But they don't accumulate stuff and say, I need more stuff.

01:52:21.000 We do that.

01:52:23.000 There's people out there that buy sneakers.

01:52:25.000 They can't stop buying sneakers.

01:52:26.000 They got closets full of sneakers, like Everlast.

01:52:29.000 He's got giant closet stacks and stacks. 1.00

01:52:32.000 Jamie's a fucking sneakerhead. 1.00

01:52:33.000 Don't they bury bones to come back and get him later though? 1.00

01:52:35.000 Dogs, no. 0.99

01:52:36.000 They try to eat the bones.

01:52:37.000 I thought that was like a thing from cartoons.

01:52:39.000 Get a real dog.

01:52:39.000 Stop listening to cartoons for dogs.

01:52:41.000 Dogs don't bury bones. 1.00

01:52:43.000 Dogs eat them.

01:52:44.000 Yeah.

01:52:44.000 You ever see a dog bury a bone?

01:52:45.000 No.

01:52:46.000 They gnaw on them, yeah.

01:52:47.000 They bury stuff, though.

01:52:48.000 Maybe some dogs bury bones. 1.00

01:52:49.000 Some dogs may, but...

01:52:50.000 But if you give a dog a bone, they only bury it to eat it later.

01:52:53.000 They don't want to accumulate like a yard full of bones they could bring their buddies over and show them off. 1.00

01:52:57.000 Like, this is my fucking bone yard. 0.99

01:52:59.000 Nice collection, dude. 1.00

01:53:00.000 Look at that.

01:53:00.000 Look at this.

01:53:01.000 I got this one in the 70s when I first started collecting.

01:53:03.000 They resell them on a bone site for double the price, depending on the market.

01:53:08.000 It is a thing that they bury bones, but I think one of the reasons why they bury bones is because it makes them more edible.

01:53:15.000 That's why bears do it. 0.99

01:53:16.000 Bears bury bodies.

01:53:18.000 If a bear kills a moose, they bury the moose.

01:53:21.000 Smokes it like an Arab in the desert with fish? 1.00

01:53:23.000 Yeah, you make it rot.

01:53:24.000 Yeah.

01:53:24.000 Yeah, because...

01:53:26.000 When you're an elk hunter and you hunt an animal and you shoot it and it goes down, sometimes they'll run and they'll run maybe even 100, 200 yards.

01:53:38.000 So one of the things you do is you wait.

01:53:40.000 If you shoot an animal, even if you know it's a very lethal hit, you allow that animal to expire.

01:53:45.000 You don't want to bump it, and what bumping it is is scaring it, and then it gets an adrenaline rush, and then it can keep running, and then maybe you won't find it.

01:53:52.000 Interesting.

01:53:52.000 Like, sometimes they can run a mile, when they would have just laid down and died right there.

01:53:56.000 But, you know, the biology of a wild animal that's constantly getting hunted by mountain lions and wolves, and, like, there is zero chance they're going to survive.

01:54:05.000 Zero.

01:54:06.000 A hundred percent chance they're getting eaten.

01:54:08.000 A hundred percent. 1.00

01:54:09.000 Those fucking things are tough as shit. 1.00

01:54:12.000 So when they go down, you gotta wait. 1.00

01:54:14.000 And sometimes when you wait, like you might sit there for, like a smart hunter who's patient will sit there for a half hour, 45 minutes.

01:54:21.000 You know where they went.

01:54:22.000 You see a trail, there's a blood trail.

01:54:23.000 But you wait.

01:54:24.000 Let the animal peacefully expire.

01:54:26.000 Hopefully they're dead instantly, but sometimes they're not.

01:54:28.000 So you let the animal peacefully expire, and then you go there.

01:54:32.000 And when you go there, you're following a blood trail.

01:54:34.000 And sometimes you follow a blood trail and you find your animal and it's buried. 0.99

01:54:38.000 And you gotta get the fuck out of there. 0.99

01:54:41.000 Quick. 0.80

01:54:41.000 Because that means a grizzly bear has claimed your animal. 0.80

01:54:45.000 That means it went there when that thing went down.

01:54:49.000 And it probably ate some of it in just a few short minutes.

01:54:53.000 And then covered it.

01:54:54.000 Covered it with dirt.

01:54:55.000 Maybe not even eating it yet.

01:54:57.000 Maybe plan on eating it later.

01:54:58.000 And then they'll cover it with dirt.

01:54:59.000 And then they'll back up and watch it.

01:55:02.000 And whoever is trying to come get it.

01:55:04.000 And you stumble along, you think that's yours.

01:55:06.000 But that grizzly bear has different ideas and it weighs 900 pounds.

01:55:10.000 Yeah.

01:55:10.000 And it's just sitting there.

01:55:11.000 I mean, that's my fridge.

01:55:14.000 And that's the last day of your life.

01:55:17.000 So when you're a hunter, if you're hunting in places like Montana, Montana has a big grizzly bear population.

01:55:23.000 For sure, there's some other states that have grizzlies.

01:55:28.000 Wyoming has grizzlies.

01:55:29.000 They have a lot of grizzlies.

01:55:30.000 Colorado has...

01:55:31.000 There's some sightings of grizzlies in the San Juans.

01:55:35.000 In fact, my friend Adam Greentree had a video of what he is certain is a grizzly bear that he saw in Colorado.

01:55:43.000 He's like, there's isolated grizzly bears.

01:55:45.000 There's been sightings. 0.99

01:55:46.000 And they think that some of them make it in and then leave, but if you show up in Alaska, and you shoot a moose, and you get to the moose and it's buried, you're fucked. 0.99

01:55:59.000 Like, you're in a bad situation. 0.98

01:56:01.000 You gotta get out of there.

01:56:03.000 Wow, I didn't know any of this.

01:56:04.000 In Wyoming, you have to give the animal to the bear.

01:56:07.000 Right.

01:56:08.000 If a bear finds your animal, like, if you have an elk tag in Wyoming, make sure this is true.

01:56:13.000 I don't want to be lying.

01:56:14.000 I think this is true.

01:56:15.000 If you kill an animal in Wyoming and it's claimed by a grizzly, I believe you are required to leave that animal with the grizzly.

01:56:25.000 I don't think you're even allowed to scare it off.

01:56:27.000 Because you could scare it off?

01:56:29.000 Or not.

01:56:30.000 Or not. 1.00

01:56:31.000 Or he says, fuck you. 1.00

01:56:33.000 Or you might have to kill the grizzly, and grizzlies are protected animals. 1.00

01:56:37.000 You can't hunt grizzly bears in the lower 48. You can hunt them in Alaska, but there's no place in the United States where you can hunt grizzly bears in the lower 48. Only in Alaska.

01:56:51.000 We're contributing to their demise, right, just by how much we keep populating and taking their...

01:56:55.000 Hunting grounds?

01:56:57.000 It's somewhat, for sure.

01:56:58.000 Wyoming has asked, but it's really, they were wiped out a long time ago.

01:57:01.000 Wyoming's asked the federal government to remove grizzly bears in and around Yellowstone National Park from protection under the Endangered Species Act, the request that approved Which, if approved, could allow the animals to be hunted?

01:57:13.000 The bears' recovery from as few as 136 animals when they were first protected as a threatened species in 1975 to more than 1,000 today is a success story the state argued in its petition.

01:57:27.000 So that's what they do is they get an animal that it gets to a point where it's no longer endangered and then they want to manage it.

01:57:35.000 And this is where it gets really sketchy with wildlife agencies and then environmental activists.

01:57:41.000 Because the environmental activists will sue to make sure that they don't put like a hunting season on grizzly bears.

01:57:47.000 But then there's people that are wildlife biologists that say, hey, we have too many bears.

01:57:51.000 We have a problem with too many bear interactions with humans.

01:57:54.000 We have a very low elk population now in these areas because there's so many bears that they're killing all the calves.

01:57:59.000 We have to manage the population or we're going to have trouble.

01:58:03.000 It's a smart, science-based approach to managing wildlife.

01:58:08.000 But managing wildlife means killing them. 0.94

01:58:11.000 That's what it means. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Right, right. 0.99

01:58:12.000 So the idea of killing a grizzly bear is abhorrent to a lot of people in this country.

01:58:16.000 Right.

01:58:17.000 And they associate it with trophy killing.

01:58:19.000 Like, you're only killing this thing to stand over it like a great hunter.

01:58:22.000 Like, you're not even eating it.

01:58:24.000 Right.

01:58:24.000 You're not even eating it.

01:58:26.000 But it's also, you have to manage them.

01:58:28.000 Because if you don't manage them, if you're one of those guys that shoots a moose, and you walk up on that thing, and it's buried.

01:58:36.000 That is not your moose anymore.

01:58:37.000 It's not your moose.

01:58:38.000 See if you can find a video of a bear burrowing a moose.

01:58:44.000 Woman jailed for getting too close to grizzly bear at Yellowstone Park.

01:58:47.000 Yeah, that's different because Yellowstone Park, everything is protected.

01:58:50.000 All the animals are protected.

01:58:51.000 That's not even really the wild.

01:58:52.000 It really is a park.

01:58:53.000 Yellowstone Park is so bizarre.

01:58:56.000 It's such, it's a beautiful place.

01:58:58.000 Have you been?

01:58:59.000 I haven't been, but there's one species that's not protected.

01:59:02.000 That's Gabby Petito.

01:59:03.000 She was not protected in Yellowstone.

01:59:06.000 Oh, how dare you.

01:59:06.000 I'm just saying.

01:59:07.000 I can't believe you went there.

01:59:08.000 A lot of people get killed in those.

01:59:10.000 I think it's just like, you know, people kill animals illegally.

01:59:13.000 Within 100 yards, though, is what the thing was.

01:59:16.000 They called it harassment.

01:59:17.000 She was taking photos of it.

01:59:18.000 Yeah, you're not allowed to do that in Yellowstone Park.

01:59:20.000 But see, Yellowstone Park is not really the wild.

01:59:23.000 Like, there's people driving through in cars.

01:59:24.000 It is the wild in that there's no one feeding these animals.

01:59:27.000 They're wild animals.

01:59:28.000 But they exist like no other wild animal.

01:59:31.000 Like, for instance, I took all these selfies with elk that were over by the visitor station. 0.99

01:59:35.000 I was in front of a fucking soda machine. 0.96

01:59:37.000 There was a soda machine that was buying a Diet Coke, and I took a selfie of a bunch of elk just standing behind me, which they don't do. 0.99

01:59:45.000 In the wild.

01:59:45.000 They only do when they're in civilization.

01:59:48.000 Like if you're in like Evergreen, Colorado, elk walk right down Main Street in the middle of all the cars.

01:59:52.000 It's crazy.

01:59:53.000 They have all these photos of these things because they know what civilization is.

01:59:56.000 And they know there's very few predators there and they know no one shoots them there.

01:59:59.000 So they figure that out.

02:00:00.000 So they'll go there.

02:00:01.000 So it's not totally wild.

02:00:03.000 It's like a weird... 1.00

02:00:05.000 Combination of wild and a park, like a pet, like a fucking zoo. 1.00

02:00:09.000 Right, right. 0.99

02:00:10.000 They're not worried about you at all.

02:00:11.000 It's a crazy video of a bear joins a wolf pack, and the wolf pack hunts this animal, and the bear just steals it from him, and they let it happen.

02:00:21.000 Smart.

02:00:21.000 Wow.

02:00:22.000 Well, they don't got any say in the matter.

02:00:23.000 And they say they let him.

02:00:25.000 Yeah, how wild are wolves, man?

02:00:29.000 Do wolves ever win that battle though, just by tiring the bear out, just like nipping at him?

02:00:33.000 Yeah.

02:00:33.000 Wolves scare bears off sometimes, you know, especially if there's a lot of them and it becomes too uncomfortable for the bear.

02:00:39.000 But the thing about wolves is that they were almost completely eradicated from the United States until the 90s.

02:00:46.000 And then they brought wolves in over from Canada, which were bigger wolves.

02:00:52.000 They brought Canadian wolves.

02:00:53.000 Canadian wolves are generally...

02:00:55.000 There's a thing with mammals.

02:00:57.000 The colder the species is...

02:00:59.000 I forget what this is called.

02:01:01.000 See if you can Google what this is called.

02:01:03.000 But the colder it is in their habitat, the larger they are.

02:01:08.000 That's why polar bears are some of the biggest bears.

02:01:11.000 Kodiak brown bears are some of the biggest bears. 0.96

02:01:13.000 It's cold as fuck and there's a lot of food. 1.00

02:01:16.000 That combination is they develop the Big as fucking animals. 1.00

02:01:19.000 It's part of that because they need body mass. 1.00

02:01:21.000 Yes.

02:01:21.000 That's the thing with the mammals.

02:01:23.000 So like, for instance, like deer.

02:01:26.000 If you get a deer in Saskatchewan, like a big white-tailed deer, that's like 300 pounds.

02:01:32.000 A big white-tailed deer in Mexico or in Texas, a big white-tailed deer is like 150 pounds.

02:01:37.000 It's like half the size.

02:01:39.000 They're a totally different looking animal.

02:01:41.000 They're like big, bulky.

02:01:42.000 It's because of the cold.

02:01:43.000 And that's the same thing with the wolves.

02:01:45.000 Is it the same thing with Russians, too? 1.00

02:01:47.000 Because they're big fucking Russians. 1.00

02:01:48.000 I bet. 1.00

02:01:49.000 Vikings.

02:01:49.000 Yeah, Vikings, too.

02:01:51.000 Scandinavians.

02:01:52.000 Iceland, always winning the strongman competitions. 0.99

02:01:54.000 Yeah, these dudes are fucking big. 0.99

02:01:55.000 Giants. 0.99

02:01:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:01:56.000 Like the mountain.

02:01:56.000 Yeah.

02:01:57.000 Huge.

02:01:58.000 Giant humans.

02:01:58.000 Yeah.

02:01:59.000 Maybe.

02:02:00.000 You've got to think those are the ones that survived that harsh climate. 1.00

02:02:03.000 They have to be hardy as fuck. 1.00

02:02:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:05.000 Special people. 1.00

02:02:07.000 There's no term for it, but an article that's describing it mentions that while true with a lot of mammals, it's not necessarily true with turtles, snakes, lizards, reptiles.

02:02:17.000 There's somehow birds.

02:02:19.000 Right.

02:02:19.000 It's true with mammals for some reason.

02:02:21.000 And with some lizards, it's actually the opposite, which is weird because...

02:02:25.000 When you bring lizards to an island, unlike every other animal, every other animal when you bring them to a small area, they get smaller.

02:02:32.000 That's why we have pygmy elephants. 0.94

02:02:34.000 Pygmy elephants existed on an island.

02:02:36.000 Even probably pygmies, like people that are smaller people. 1.00

02:02:40.000 Like that Isle of Florensis that had that little hobbit person. 1.00

02:02:44.000 That's like a little island that dude was living on.

02:02:46.000 And a lot of animals when they live on islands are smaller, except reptiles.

02:02:51.000 Reptiles get bigger, like the Komodo dragons.

02:02:54.000 Komodo Island is not a big place. 0.99

02:02:56.000 It's not fucking Australia. 0.99

02:02:58.000 And these things are giant. 1.00

02:02:59.000 They're the biggest fucking lizards on Earth. 0.99

02:03:01.000 They live in this one place. 1.00

02:03:04.000 Do you think human is the same thing?

02:03:06.000 I don't know.

02:03:06.000 I made the joke about the Russians, but I noticed when I lived in Miami, I changed.

02:03:11.000 You just start dressing different.

02:03:13.000 The colors are lighter.

02:03:14.000 The buttons go down on your shirt more.

02:03:16.000 You want some air. 0.97

02:03:18.000 It's hot and fucking humid. 0.97

02:03:19.000 Yeah, and then you go back to New York. 0.96

02:03:20.000 Next thing you know, it's like sweatshirt.

02:03:21.000 And even your posture changes.

02:03:24.000 We really are.

02:03:24.000 We just adapt to our environments to some degree.

02:03:27.000 I wonder if that's true. 0.96

02:03:28.000 Like, what if that, like, warm, humid climates made people, like, more passionate and wanted to fuck more? 0.98

02:03:34.000 If you think about, like, the way you think about, like, Cuba, like, romance and just fucking manly men and womenly women, like, think about these hot, muggy places. 0.98

02:03:44.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:03:44.000 They're filled with, like, a lot of machismo. 0.98

02:03:46.000 Yeah, they're warmer people, like they're more emotional than you go up north.

02:03:50.000 And they're very cold and stoic and everything's cerebral. 0.99

02:03:54.000 Russians, who's more fucking cold-blooded than them? 1.00

02:03:56.000 They are there. 1.00

02:03:56.000 Right? 1.00

02:03:57.000 The Mongols back when those days. 1.00

02:04:00.000 Yes, Scandinavians too, man.

02:04:01.000 I wonder, man.

02:04:02.000 I've done comedy in Scandinavia and they clap.

02:04:05.000 Haha, good joke.

02:04:06.000 Good joke.

02:04:07.000 Good joke.

02:04:08.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:04:10.000 They're cerebral and they're inside most of the year.

02:04:13.000 Very little sunlight.

02:04:15.000 I think the environment has a giant play on a lot of the aspects of what makes a person a person. 0.99

02:04:21.000 That's why at the end of the day racism is kind of a stupid thing because homo sapiens sapiens They look different because of the environment. 0.98

02:04:29.000 100%. 1.00

02:04:29.000 It's all the same shit. 1.00

02:04:31.000 Yeah, it's stupid. 1.00

02:04:31.000 If you lived in a certain area over a certain amount of time, you would look a certain way. 1.00

02:04:35.000 I mean, that's what it is.

02:04:37.000 That's what it is.

02:04:37.000 Yeah.

02:04:37.000 It's the whole reason why we look different.

02:04:40.000 That's why we can have sex with each other and make babies. 1.00

02:04:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:43.000 Other animals that look similar, they can't just fuck each other. 1.00

02:04:46.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:47.000 The diversity of human looks versus our actual appearance versus our actual genetics is so different.

02:04:56.000 We look like a different thing.

02:04:58.000 If you saw Shaquille O'Neal and Yeonmi Park, the lady who escaped North Korea, Who's one of the most frail people I've ever met in my life. 0.99

02:05:07.000 But brave as fuck. 0.99

02:05:08.000 Brave as fuck and an incredible story and a brilliant woman. 1.00

02:05:11.000 But when you shake her hand, it is like a small matchsticks. 1.00

02:05:15.000 She's so tiny.

02:05:16.000 And she didn't have any food when she was young.

02:05:19.000 All of her bones and everything, she's very slight.

02:05:23.000 And then you saw Shaquille O'Neal.

02:05:25.000 If you were from another planet and you had no idea what people are, this is your first introduction to humans, you would look at those two and go, oh, that's two different things.

02:05:33.000 Yeah.

02:05:34.000 There's no way those two can have a baby. 0.98

02:05:35.000 Yeah.

02:05:35.000 But they can.

02:05:36.000 They can.

02:05:37.000 Somehow.

02:05:37.000 It would be fun to watch.

02:05:38.000 Those two?

02:05:39.000 Is it?

02:05:40.000 What kind of fit is that?

02:05:40.000 Does he just plug her on and hold her?

02:05:42.000 Him and the gymnast.

02:05:43.000 Yeah. 0.88

02:05:44.000 Small balls and shots. 0.96

02:05:45.000 That is insane.

02:05:46.000 Like, how would he...

02:05:48.000 Yeah.

02:05:49.000 He's an enormous human.

02:05:50.000 And he looks great, by the way.

02:05:51.000 Shaq has been on a diet, and he's been working out regularly, and we looked at pictures of him the other day.

02:05:57.000 He's got a six-pack now.

02:05:58.000 He's back, huh? 0.99

02:05:59.000 Dude, he looks fucking great. 0.99

02:06:00.000 Adjusted his diet, stopped eating bullshit, and just decided to get in shape. 1.00

02:06:04.000 He was a destroyer. 1.00

02:06:06.000 Oh my god, he's so big.

02:06:06.000 When he was playing, dude, he would just...

02:06:09.000 Guy that big with that speed and that power, that's never been seen before.

02:06:13.000 If he had decided to be a UFC fighter instead of a basketball player, he'd be the heavyweight champ in the world.

02:06:18.000 Except he's too big for the heavyweight division.

02:06:21.000 The heavyweight division has a cap of 265 pounds.

02:06:25.000 Shaq ain't making 265, bro.

02:06:27.000 No.

02:06:28.000 LeBron's barely making it.

02:06:30.000 Barely! 0.98

02:06:30.000 Barely. 0.98

02:06:31.000 Well, that's Ngannou.

02:06:32.000 Look at Ngannou.

02:06:34.000 I mean, that's one of the things about Ngannou is he's one of the rare heavyweights who's a natural 270, 280, and he cuts down to 265. You'd have to, like, invent someone to fight Shaq.

02:06:46.000 Yeah.

02:06:46.000 You'd have to, like, build someone.

02:06:47.000 Or, like, the mountain.

02:06:48.000 Like, if the mountain got into MMA. You know, like, if he got into that early instead of becoming a strongman.

02:06:53.000 He literally couldn't fight in the UFC. He's too big.

02:06:56.000 He's too big.

02:06:57.000 He's more than 350 pounds now, and he's lost 100 pounds.

02:06:59.000 Are they gonna ever create like a super heavyweight division for guys like that big?

02:07:03.000 There is a super heavyweight division, but it's never been utilized in the UFC because there's not enough athletes.

02:07:08.000 There's not enough guys, and you know, they want fights to be exciting.

02:07:12.000 And you know, the outliers like the Shaquille O'Neal's and the Thor's from Game of Thrones, those are the ones who throw that into, make it a problem. 0.99

02:07:21.000 Yeah, get that shit. 0.99

02:07:22.000 Because if the sport really did get to a point... 1.00

02:07:26.000 I know, it's incredible.

02:07:27.000 It's incredible.

02:07:28.000 Shaq was amazing.

02:07:29.000 301 pounds with 10% body fat.

02:07:31.000 Look at that.

02:07:31.000 That is amazing.

02:07:33.000 Bro, if he...

02:07:34.000 And who knows?

02:07:35.000 He might get back down without weight again.

02:07:37.000 Yeah.

02:07:37.000 But the point is, he's not going to get 265. You're not going to ask a guy that's that lean and athletic to lose 35 pounds.

02:07:44.000 You can't do it.

02:07:45.000 It's too much weight.

02:07:46.000 But if they did get enough of those guys who really got into MMA, then you could see...

02:07:51.000 That would be the real heavyweight champion.

02:07:53.000 Because if you have a Shaquille O'Neal who's like 310 pounds, solid muscle, and is good at basketball...

02:08:03.000 That good at fighting?

02:08:04.000 Yeah.

02:08:04.000 Oh my god.

02:08:05.000 How are you stopping that?

02:08:06.000 Nah, you can't.

02:08:07.000 It's too big.

02:08:08.000 Nah, you can't.

02:08:08.000 He's too big.

02:08:08.000 You need a grizzly bear to fight him, yeah.

02:08:10.000 You know, Shaq is a martial artist.

02:08:13.000 He's a trained martial artist.

02:08:14.000 He trains constantly.

02:08:16.000 There's all these videos of him hitting pads and grabbing guys in Muay Thai clinches and kneeing them in the body and kneeing the pads while they're holding the pads.

02:08:24.000 Dude, you do not want none of that.

02:08:27.000 Right, no.

02:08:28.000 None of that.

02:08:29.000 None of that. 0.96

02:08:30.000 There's no, maybe I could hit him first. 0.88

02:08:32.000 Uh-uh.

02:08:32.000 There's none of that.

02:08:33.000 Yeah, those guys are just genetic freaks.

02:08:36.000 I recently...

02:08:37.000 I had the opportunity to meet Gronk and Terrell Owens.

02:08:42.000 And...

02:08:43.000 The size of Gronk's hands.

02:08:45.000 I have a picture of it.

02:08:46.000 Dude, his hand looked like a catcher's mitt.

02:08:49.000 I mean, he's 6'6", 6'7", anyway.

02:08:51.000 But there's something about basketball and football players' hands.

02:08:56.000 It's like they have these little advantages.

02:08:58.000 My friend Marco is 6'8".

02:09:00.000 His hands are proportionate to his body, which are big.

02:09:04.000 But, I mean, Gronk's hands looked abnormally big.

02:09:07.000 And so did Terrell Owens' hands.

02:09:09.000 They looked like he was wearing a Halloween suit.

02:09:12.000 It was insane.

02:09:13.000 Well, to be at the top of every sport, I think you need all sorts of things going on.

02:09:20.000 You need genetics.

02:09:21.000 You need great coaching.

02:09:24.000 You need mental fortitude.

02:09:27.000 You need willpower, determination, discipline.

02:09:30.000 You need all those things.

02:09:32.000 You can't have all those things but have little hands.

02:09:34.000 Like, you're never gonna beat those guys who were born with big hands. 0.99

02:09:37.000 Like, you need the whole fucking... 0.98

02:09:39.000 You need all the ingredients to make the perfect athlete soup. 0.99

02:09:42.000 But then you have those exceptions, like a Lawrence Taylor or even Charles Barkley, guys like that.

02:09:48.000 Like, Lawrence Taylor, there's stories about him where he would show up at the game.

02:09:51.000 He was a linebacker for the Giants and probably maybe the best linebacker of all time.

02:09:54.000 He would show up and be like, who are we playing?

02:09:56.000 Where am I? I mean, he was like smoking crack.

02:09:57.000 He was drunk.

02:09:58.000 I mean, he was like, he didn't train at all.

02:10:00.000 And then he went on the field and he just was like a guided missile of destruction.

02:10:06.000 Yeah, there's guys like that.

02:10:07.000 It's just insane.

02:10:08.000 Super athletes.

02:10:09.000 Super athletes.

02:10:10.000 They're super athletes.

02:10:11.000 Bo Jackson. 1.00

02:10:12.000 Bo Jackson's fucking... 1.00

02:10:13.000 Bo Jackson was a super athlete. 1.00

02:10:16.000 Who knows what changed about Bo Jackson's trajectory when he broke his hip?

02:10:21.000 Because he was so powerful, man.

02:10:25.000 He was so powerful, he blew his own body out with his own momentum, like his own power.

02:10:30.000 He was just running.

02:10:31.000 He got tackled weird.

02:10:32.000 No, he was running!

02:10:33.000 I think he was running, and the force of his running ripped something.

02:10:38.000 I don't think that's true.

02:10:39.000 I think it was in the tackling.

02:10:42.000 I think as going down, his hip dislocated.

02:10:45.000 I'm pretty sure there's a video of it, right?

02:10:47.000 It's got, of course there is.

02:10:49.000 Yeah, this is it.

02:10:50.000 Wow, look how shitty the TVs were back then. 0.54

02:10:51.000 That can't be it.

02:10:52.000 That's a VHS tape.

02:10:54.000 There was something about...

02:10:55.000 No, this is just footage of him, I think.

02:10:56.000 Oh, is this when it happened?

02:10:57.000 It says injury.

02:10:58.000 Yeah.

02:10:59.000 This is it.

02:11:00.000 So right there.

02:11:01.000 It's when he goes down.

02:11:02.000 So right there when he went down.

02:11:03.000 Oh, it was a tackle.

02:11:04.000 Yeah, so in the going down, the way he fell, which didn't seem particularly brutal, which just shows you how brutal football is, because even regular tackles like that.

02:11:14.000 So on that one, there's something that happened to him.

02:11:16.000 That doesn't seem anything like it could have.

02:11:18.000 But I'm telling you, man, falling down is not good.

02:11:21.000 Falling down with another super athlete dragging you down as you're running full clip.

02:11:25.000 So whatever happened, he broke his hip.

02:11:27.000 Yeah, you're right. 0.99

02:11:28.000 And then they replaced his hip and, you know, knocks a fucking home run with a bad hip, with a fake hip. 0.98

02:11:33.000 He was a great, good baseball player too. 0.99

02:11:36.000 It's crazy.

02:11:36.000 You know, he's a big-time bow hunter.

02:11:38.000 Is he now?

02:11:39.000 Yeah, he's very proficient, very good hunter. 0.98

02:11:42.000 And he's, I was, the last I heard, he has to switch to a crossbow because his shoulders are so fucked up, he can't pull his bow back anymore. 0.98

02:11:51.000 Football is rough, dude. 0.99

02:11:53.000 Oh, dude.

02:11:53.000 The worst one.

02:11:54.000 I think football is the harshest.

02:11:56.000 It's like getting hit by a Mack truck.

02:11:59.000 And I have a show where we talk to athletes, and one of the questions I asked, like two of them, was like, is there a difference getting hit in the cold?

02:12:07.000 Because those guys play in the...

02:12:08.000 They say when you get hit in the cold, you can't explain to someone else what it feels like when you get hit in zero-degree weather in Green Bay.

02:12:17.000 First of all, the ground's hard.

02:12:18.000 Dude, the sting of it is just like...

02:12:20.000 Ugh! 0.97

02:12:21.000 And the ground's hard.

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 The ground's frozen.

02:12:23.000 I mean, those guys can't walk for like two days after their game.

02:12:26.000 You think about it, you're basically playing on a block of ice.

02:12:30.000 Like, solid frozen ground in like Minnesota in the winter.

02:12:33.000 You know what that feels like.

02:12:34.000 Yeah.

02:12:34.000 It's concrete.

02:12:35.000 It's crazy.

02:12:36.000 So you're getting tackled under concrete.

02:12:37.000 Yeah, and you're getting hit by another guy.

02:12:40.000 Going, the speeds that they're going, the power, the force of it is getting hit.

02:12:44.000 It's like a car accident on your body.

02:12:46.000 It is kind of crazy that they are playing when it's frozen, when the ground's frozen.

02:12:50.000 That is so bad for you.

02:12:52.000 It's basically playing on cement.

02:12:56.000 And a lot of times it's not even grass, it's like turf.

02:12:58.000 Which is terrible for you, right?

02:13:00.000 Did you see Deion Sanders?

02:13:02.000 Was it Deion Sanders?

02:13:03.000 How did he get his toes removed?

02:13:06.000 Did he?

02:13:06.000 Yes, man.

02:13:07.000 He had turf toe that was so bad from his years of playing, his toes were all fucked up and broken and he had an operation on his toe to try to fix it. 0.78

02:13:18.000 And Deion Sanders reveals how he had two toes amputated following foot surgery complications.

02:13:23.000 So he had foot surgery, right? 0.96

02:13:26.000 So they removed his big toe and one other toe because it was just all fucked up and broken. 0.77

02:13:31.000 And they tried to straighten it out.

02:13:33.000 And when they tried to straighten it out, apparently there was some sort of a blood issue where it started to die.

02:13:40.000 His toe started to turn black and they noticed it.

02:13:42.000 And then they were worried they were going to have to amputate.

02:13:44.000 They were going to have to amputate his foot, maybe even his leg.

02:13:46.000 So they got away with just amputating those toes.

02:13:49.000 But they had to amputate his big toe and the next toe over. 1.00

02:13:52.000 Damn! 0.99

02:13:52.000 It got dark quick, it said. 0.99

02:13:54.000 It's very scary shit, man. 1.00

02:13:55.000 Damn! 1.00

02:13:56.000 Because necrosis, when that happens, following an injury, following a surgery, it's very, very dangerous. 0.99

02:14:02.000 Because that's what leads to all sorts of stuff.

02:14:04.000 Like, you know, that kind of could lead to gangrene.

02:14:07.000 It could lead to those kind of diseases of, like, your body's not healing.

02:14:12.000 It's rotting.

02:14:13.000 And it's going to...

02:14:13.000 It spreads.

02:14:14.000 It could spread throughout your body, and you could lose your leg.

02:14:16.000 You could lose your life.

02:14:17.000 Like, they were just trying to save his life.

02:14:19.000 And he was really worried they were going to have to amputate his leg.

02:14:22.000 It's crazy.

02:14:22.000 Staph infections work that way, right?

02:14:24.000 They just spread? 0.99

02:14:25.000 Staph infections are fucking terrifying. 0.98

02:14:27.000 And they can't do anything but amputate. 0.99

02:14:29.000 If it's too late, if they catch it too late, they have to amputate it.

02:14:32.000 Stop it.

02:14:33.000 Well, you could just die.

02:14:34.000 People die from staph all the time.

02:14:36.000 Brian Callen knew this lady. 0.99

02:14:38.000 And her and her husband, they were into natural foods and shit and natural healing, that kind of stuff. 0.99

02:14:45.000 And so she gets a staph infection and she doesn't do shit about it. 1.00

02:14:49.000 She's trying to like take herbs and stuff. 1.00

02:14:51.000 And he goes over the house and he didn't know about this.

02:14:54.000 He goes over the house and he's like, what's wrong with her?

02:14:56.000 Her gums were bleeding.

02:14:58.000 He goes, what's wrong with her?

02:14:59.000 She's got a staph infection. 0.99

02:15:00.000 She's treating. 1.00

02:15:01.000 He's like, oh my God, get her to a fucking hospital. 0.99

02:15:04.000 They get her to a hospital, but apparently it was too late. 1.00

02:15:06.000 Wow.

02:15:07.000 Ari Shafir and I were playing pool once.

02:15:09.000 We're playing pool.

02:15:10.000 I see Ari walking funny. 1.00

02:15:12.000 I go, why are you walking like that?

02:15:13.000 He goes, I got a spider bite.

02:15:14.000 We had been doing jujitsu.

02:15:16.000 I bought Ari a year of jujitsu as a Christmas gift.

02:15:19.000 Hanukkah, whatever.

02:15:20.000 So we go to the sidelines.

02:15:25.000 I go, pull your pants up. 1.00

02:15:26.000 Let me see your knee. 0.64

02:15:27.000 He shows me his knee.

02:15:27.000 I go, dude, that's a staph infection.

02:15:29.000 I go, you got to go to the hospital right now.

02:15:31.000 I unscrew my cue.

02:15:32.000 He goes, are you serious? 0.99

02:15:33.000 I go, we're going to the hospital right fucking now. 0.99

02:15:35.000 You got to get that... 0.99

02:15:37.000 He dealt with immediately.

02:15:38.000 You could die. 0.99

02:15:39.000 And he's like, why don't they fucking tell you about that? 1.00

02:15:41.000 I go, they should fucking tell you about that. 0.98

02:15:42.000 There should be giant signs, but they don't want to scare people off. 0.99

02:15:47.000 They want to have signs like, this is staph.

02:15:49.000 If you see this, go to a doctor immediately.

02:15:51.000 You need antibiotics, maybe even IV antibiotics.

02:15:54.000 So he got bit by a spider?

02:15:56.000 No, no, it wasn't a spider bite.

02:15:57.000 It was just a staph infection.

02:15:59.000 He thought it was a spider bite.

02:16:00.000 How did he get the staph?

02:16:01.000 Jiu-jitsu.

02:16:03.000 You get scraped and it's like a common thing.

02:16:07.000 There's certain gyms that are known for it.

02:16:10.000 At one point in time in the Henzo Gracie School, which is one of the best jujitsu clubs on the planet that's in New York City, they were in the basement and the basement doesn't get any sunlight and a bunch of people were getting staph infections.

02:16:23.000 And they couldn't eradicate it.

02:16:25.000 They're cleaning the mats.

02:16:26.000 They're still getting staff.

02:16:28.000 Sometimes it happens in gyms.

02:16:30.000 A bunch of people get it and it spreads through. 1.00

02:16:32.000 And they can fuck you up, man. 1.00

02:16:33.000 So if you didn't catch that on Ari, he would have been fucking dead. 1.00

02:16:37.000 Yeah, he would have been dead. 0.99

02:16:38.000 If he just kept going.

02:16:39.000 I mean, I would assume eventually he would have gone to a hospital if he couldn't walk anymore and his whole leg turned black.

02:16:44.000 But I mean, Ari would have waited that long. 0.99

02:16:47.000 Wow.

02:16:47.000 I think he had SAG insurance.

02:16:50.000 Can you tell?

02:16:51.000 Did he have any other symptoms besides No, he was just limping.

02:16:54.000 We used to play pool a lot, and he was limping around the table.

02:16:57.000 I'm like, what's going on?

02:16:59.000 And then he showed it to me, and I was like, dude, we're going to the hospital.

02:17:01.000 And he was like, what?

02:17:02.000 Are you serious?

02:17:03.000 Yeah, your curiosity saved Ari.

02:17:07.000 Could have.

02:17:08.000 I mean, maybe he would have gone to the hospital anyway, but it was bad, man. 0.99

02:17:12.000 It was a big, fat zit, like the size of a golf ball, and it had a big white head on it. 0.96

02:17:17.000 And I was like, oh, dude. 0.99

02:17:18.000 I go, this is bad.

02:17:20.000 So that's what to look for?

02:17:22.000 There's that, but there's also like dots.

02:17:24.000 My friend Tate, I had staff once, I had staff twice.

02:17:28.000 My friend Tate and I were at the airport waiting for our flight and I had shorts on and my leg crossed like that and he was looking at my calf. 0.99

02:17:34.000 He goes, what's on your fucking calf? 0.97

02:17:36.000 I looked over, there's like these little red spots all over. 0.99

02:17:39.000 I'm like, I don't know. 0.99

02:17:39.000 It's some shit. 0.99

02:17:40.000 He goes, dude, that's staph. 1.00

02:17:42.000 I go, you think?

02:17:43.000 And he goes, yeah.

02:17:44.000 He goes, you need to get that checked out, like right away.

02:17:46.000 I was like, that staph?

02:17:47.000 I go, I thought staph.

02:17:48.000 He goes, staph could look like that, too.

02:17:50.000 He goes, I think it's staph.

02:17:51.000 So I go right to the doctor.

02:17:52.000 They do a swab of it, and the doctor was like, yeah, that's staph.

02:17:55.000 She goes, I'm going to give you a bunch of antibiotics, and oral antibiotics, and if this doesn't work, I'm going to have to put you on an IV. I'm like, what?

02:18:01.000 And so they gave me these antibiotics that knocked me for a loop.

02:18:06.000 I am amazed that fighters fight when they're on antibiotics.

02:18:10.000 Because, like, Luke Rockhold, when he beat Chris Weidman, he was on antibiotics for staph.

02:18:14.000 When he won, when he beat him for the title, they drain you.

02:18:18.000 They make you so weak.

02:18:20.000 It's crazy how weak I felt. 1.00

02:18:22.000 Maybe I'm just a pussy, which for sure I am, but I immediately was, like, tired, and I tried to work out. 0.99

02:18:29.000 I was like, oh my god, like, this is what staph does for you? 0.99

02:18:32.000 Or this is what antibiotics do for me?

02:18:34.000 Fighting the staph.

02:18:35.000 Yeah.

02:18:35.000 Which means the staph is intense.

02:18:37.000 It's the staph's intense and the antibiotics are intense, but antibiotics knock you for a loop.

02:18:42.000 Dude, staph is scary.

02:18:44.000 Scary.

02:18:44.000 That's scary.

02:18:45.000 And then there's MRSA, which is even scarier, which is, that's medication-resistant staph.

02:18:50.000 And this MRSA is a lot of people catch it in hospitals when they have surgery. 0.97

02:18:55.000 And they have these, like, life-threatening infections because it's just ravaging your fucking body and it's resistant to the antibiotics. 0.96

02:19:04.000 So what do you do in that situation? 0.98

02:19:06.000 Dude, you stay in the hospital for a long-ass time.

02:19:08.000 I have a buddy of mine who had to get his knee operated on.

02:19:11.000 He got a MRSA on his knee.

02:19:12.000 They opened him up like a fish.

02:19:14.000 And they had to go into the area and try to disinfect it and try to kill the infection.

02:19:21.000 It was horrible.

02:19:22.000 And he was in the hospital for a long time.

02:19:24.000 Wow.

02:19:25.000 A long time.

02:19:26.000 And he was an elite athlete, a black belt in jujitsu.

02:19:29.000 Is it a virus or a bacteria?

02:19:31.000 It's bacteria. 0.66

02:19:32.000 It's bacteria. 0.66

02:19:33.000 Yeah.

02:19:33.000 And it's just trying to spread and live like everything.

02:19:36.000 It's trying to eat you quick.

02:19:37.000 Trying to eat you.

02:19:38.000 And because of, you know, these medication-resistant strains that have come from medications, because they figure out a pathway past the antibiotic.

02:19:47.000 And then they just get into people in hospitals. 0.75

02:19:50.000 Or, you know, you can catch it in other places too, but I know a bunch of people that have gotten MRSA, and they're fucked for a long time, like months. 0.98

02:19:57.000 Crazy. 0.99

02:19:58.000 Scary, dude.

02:19:58.000 Life always finds a way, no matter what form of life, it'll just adapt.

02:20:01.000 Whether it's wolves or bears or whatever.

02:20:04.000 Whatever.

02:20:05.000 Bacteria, viruses.

02:20:06.000 See if you can find a video of a bear burying its kill.

02:20:10.000 Because they do bury their kill.

02:20:12.000 Like a crocodile likes to take something they kill and stick it under a log, let it rot.

02:20:16.000 Just so it's easier to eat?

02:20:18.000 Easier to eat, yeah.

02:20:19.000 They'll either eat chunks of it while they can right there, but if it's too much work, they'll just shove you under a rock and leave you there for a few days.

02:20:26.000 Will wolves ever come around and try to sniff out and battle the grizzly for the buried?

02:20:31.000 They'll try to scare them off.

02:20:32.000 They'll bark at them.

02:20:33.000 They'll come around them.

02:20:34.000 Because they can smell the carcass underneath the ground.

02:20:38.000 One thing wolves definitely do is they scare mountain lions off their food. 0.72

02:20:42.000 Like where places where wolves have increased in numbers, mountain lions have decreased in numbers.

02:20:48.000 And there's a direct correlation between the two because what happens is wolves kill the kittens.

02:20:54.000 So this is one that's burying.

02:20:56.000 He's burying this elk.

02:21:01.000 Oh, he just killed it.

02:21:02.000 He didn't bury it.

02:21:03.000 It's a 24-hour period.

02:21:05.000 It does it over the time, I think.

02:21:07.000 Oh, okay.

02:21:07.000 They found him chasing that thing.

02:21:10.000 They found him chasing it and killing it. 0.73

02:21:13.000 I think he's just waiting for it to rot.

02:21:16.000 But see, that's what they'll do. 0.94

02:21:17.000 They'll just hang over their kill.

02:21:20.000 And look, he's going to kind of cover it up with dirt and leave it there.

02:21:23.000 And then he's going to watch it from a distance.

02:21:25.000 That's going to be his territory now.

02:21:27.000 So if you killed that elk and you came over and it was covered in dirt like that, like right there, see how that elk is covered in dirt?

02:21:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:33.000 That's the last shit you want to see. 0.99

02:21:36.000 The last shit you want to see is the elk you shot covered in dirt, because you don't know which way to get out of there. 1.00

02:21:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:42.000 You might back up and go, we got to get out of here, and that bear's behind you.

02:21:45.000 Or you might go left, and that's where the bear is.

02:21:47.000 Or you might go right.

02:21:48.000 So you're in the woods, right?

02:21:50.000 And you got a 900-pound super predator.

02:21:53.000 That has claimed this animal that you shot, and you're way too close to it.

02:21:57.000 And you have no idea where he is watching.

02:21:59.000 No idea.

02:21:59.000 Yeah.

02:22:00.000 And you might not be able to get a shot off as he's running at you.

02:22:04.000 Has that ever happened to you or anyone you know?

02:22:06.000 No.

02:22:06.000 Yes, people I know.

02:22:07.000 And what do they do?

02:22:08.000 They just slowly back away?

02:22:11.000 My friend Steve Rinella and Remy Warren and Ryan Callahan and Giannis Boutalas, they were all on this trip in Alaska, and the very same thing happened.

02:22:20.000 They shot an elk.

02:22:22.000 And what they did was, it was a long trek to their camp, and elk is a huge animal.

02:22:28.000 So what they decided to do, it was late in the afternoon, they said, we're going to hang this elk, or I think they might have gutted it and left it, but they were going to come back later.

02:22:38.000 So they come back later and they check and it hasn't been claimed.

02:22:41.000 They think.

02:22:42.000 They think it's fine. 1.00

02:22:42.000 But then they step in bear shit. 1.00

02:22:45.000 First clue. 1.00

02:22:46.000 And they're like, okay, is this fresh bear shit? 0.99

02:22:49.000 Like, what does this mean? 0.99

02:22:49.000 The elk hasn't been disturbed? 0.99

02:22:51.000 So they sit down and they're packing out the animal, they dress the animal, and they sit down and have lunch.

02:22:58.000 So they sit down and have lunch and they hear a noise and they turn and they see an 11-foot bear sprinting full clip right at them.

02:23:08.000 Just makes a mad run into their camp.

02:23:11.000 Knocks guys flying.

02:23:13.000 Steve said this thing was gnashing its teeth 18 inches from his face.

02:23:18.000 Just runs by.

02:23:20.000 Gnashing its teeth.

02:23:21.000 A giant bear.

02:23:22.000 It's so big.

02:23:23.000 Your whole body goes into reptilian mode.

02:23:26.000 You're in full shock.

02:23:27.000 You're frozen.

02:23:28.000 One guy winds up on its back.

02:23:31.000 This guy, Dirtmouth, in the middle of the scramble and the bear knocking these guys, he is on the bear's back for like a hundred feet as it's running down the hill.

02:23:43.000 Did he do that consciously or just happened in the melee?

02:23:46.000 It just happened in the melee where he lands on this thing's back.

02:23:50.000 And then it runs off into the woods.

02:23:51.000 No one had a gun ready.

02:23:53.000 No one is prepared.

02:23:54.000 And then they stop, and then they regroup, and they try to figure it out, and they can hear it huffing at them through the woods.

02:24:01.000 Like, it's thinking about making another charge.

02:24:03.000 And they got their rifles ready now.

02:24:05.000 This is a monster movie.

02:24:07.000 Like, a legitimate monster movie.

02:24:10.000 It's not just nature.

02:24:11.000 Did anyone get hurt from a...

02:24:13.000 No, they got so fortunate.

02:24:14.000 Wow.

02:24:14.000 They got so fortunate.

02:24:15.000 Did he make another charge?

02:24:16.000 How did they get out of there?

02:24:17.000 No, I think they yelled at it, and they all had the rifles out, and I think they got out of there.

02:24:22.000 I don't know if they left meat for the bear.

02:24:25.000 I'm pretty sure they left at least the gut pile.

02:24:27.000 I don't think they went back a second time.

02:24:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:24:29.000 I don't remember, though, but I remember it being a wild fucking story. 0.99

02:24:34.000 And Remy Warren tells it on my podcast, and Steve Rinella tells it. 0.97

02:24:38.000 And I think maybe Steve just told it.

02:24:40.000 No, he told it on my podcast and on his podcast.

02:24:43.000 On both.

02:24:43.000 But it's an extraordinary story.

02:24:46.000 Because they're both really fucking smart and articulate guys. 0.97

02:24:50.000 And they encounter what is, you know, one of the most horrific predators you could ever stumble into. 0.98

02:24:58.000 Like a 900 pound, 1000 pound bear.

02:25:00.000 And this one's 11 feet because this is Alaska.

02:25:02.000 They're the biggest ones.

02:25:04.000 Because they have the most access to protein.

02:25:05.000 They're so big.

02:25:07.000 11 feet.

02:25:08.000 So that was what I was saying about the wolves.

02:25:10.000 The wolves they brought down to Yellowstone were from Canada.

02:25:13.000 They're bigger wolves.

02:25:16.000 So...

02:25:16.000 I don't know if that's 100% true.

02:25:18.000 Are they going to shrink, you think, because they're now in a different environment?

02:25:21.000 They probably shrink if they go to Arizona.

02:25:22.000 Right.

02:25:23.000 Over, like, generation after generation.

02:25:25.000 Right.

02:25:25.000 You know?

02:25:26.000 Right.

02:25:26.000 But, like, the red wolf that's on the East Coast, that's a smaller wolf.

02:25:30.000 And the gray wolf that used to live on the West Coast had all been eradicated by farmers.

02:25:35.000 What they would do is they would shoot an animal and they would fill it full of strychnine.

02:25:40.000 Like they would literally pump its veins full with strychnine right after they killed it and just leave it there.

02:25:46.000 And the wolves would find it, they would eat the carcass and they would all die.

02:25:48.000 And they did that over and over and over again until they eradicated wolves from the West Coast.

02:25:54.000 Until the 90s.

02:25:55.000 In the 90s they decided to reintroduce them into Yellowstone.

02:25:59.000 It's interesting.

02:26:00.000 It's an interesting thing because throughout history, people have been terrified of wolves. 0.89

02:26:04.000 That's where the Little Red Riding Hood myth and, you know, Three Little Pigs, all that shit's wolves. 0.98

02:26:08.000 Everyone's scared of wolves. 0.99

02:26:09.000 Right.

02:26:09.000 Because wolves used to eat people.

02:26:11.000 Yeah.

02:26:11.000 And the dogs, they think, the best theory is, right, that dogs evolved from gray wolves, specifically.

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 And that, you know, we've always had this real weird relationship with them because they're beautiful and majestic, but if, you know, you're a hiker...

02:26:27.000 When you go down the wrong path, wolves will fucking eat you. 0.99

02:26:30.000 Yeah, they look cool because they look like dogs. 0.99

02:26:34.000 The Northwestern Wolf, known by many including as the Mackenzie Valley Wolf, the Canadian Timber Wolf, and the Alaska Timber Wolf, is the largest wolf in the world, with an average male weighing 137 pounds while the average female weighs 101 pounds.

02:26:48.000 Yeah, so those are the biggest wolves.

02:26:50.000 But I think the ones that we had in North America were probably pretty similar but smaller. 0.96

02:26:54.000 But either way, you know, you don't want a 90-pound wolf fucking you up either. 0.95

02:26:59.000 They're amazing predators. 0.99

02:27:00.000 They can snap moose bones with their teeth just to suck the marrow out. 1.00

02:27:04.000 It's amazing, though, that we've created dogs that can fuck up wolves. 0.98

02:27:08.000 Have we though? 0.98

02:27:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:27:09.000 There's dogs that can fuck up wolves. 0.99

02:27:11.000 What dogs? 0.99

02:27:12.000 Those...

02:27:13.000 What are they called? 0.99

02:27:14.000 There's a few breeds that they use to fuck wolves up. 0.99

02:27:17.000 So do they have like wolf fights? 0.92

02:27:19.000 I think they do, but I think they just have them for protection against wolves. 0.99

02:27:24.000 And they fuck wolves up. 0.99

02:27:26.000 Yeah, we've created these big dogs. 0.96

02:27:28.000 Kangals can grow to 145 pounds and up to 33 inches tall, surpassing most other massive dog breeds like Great Danes.

02:27:36.000 Wow, I didn't even know this thing was a real animal.

02:27:38.000 Yuck.

02:27:39.000 Today in Turkey and increasingly in the United States, the viciously protective dogs are known and celebrated as wolf fighters.

02:27:45.000 Whoa, let me see a video of these dogs.

02:27:47.000 Yeah, look, there's 13 dog breeds that can kill wolves.

02:27:50.000 Wow, interesting.

02:27:52.000 Wolves and protect your house. 1.00

02:27:53.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:27:54.000 Click on that. 0.99

02:27:56.000 Dogs are just the most incredible animal.

02:27:58.000 Oh, there's that Caucasian Shepherd dog.

02:28:00.000 You ever seen that thing?

02:28:01.000 No.

02:28:01.000 That thing looks like that werewolf I have outside.

02:28:05.000 I'd like to see one of those.

02:28:07.000 Bro.

02:28:08.000 Cane Corsos too?

02:28:10.000 Look at the size of that thing! 1.00

02:28:10.000 Fuck! 1.00

02:28:12.000 It's like a shack of dogs. 1.00

02:28:14.000 Look at the size of that thing!

02:28:17.000 It is so big.

02:28:19.000 Do that picture with that lady, the first picture that you had.

02:28:22.000 Bro.

02:28:24.000 There's definitely a perspective thing, like a guy holding a fish in front of him.

02:28:27.000 But either way, that is a preposterous photo.

02:28:30.000 Look at that one right there. 0.85

02:28:32.000 That's real, yeah.

02:28:33.000 Oh my god, look at the size of this thing. 1.00

02:28:35.000 Damn! 1.00

02:28:35.000 That's a 200-pound dog. 1.00

02:28:37.000 So that dog can fuck up a wolf, I guess. 0.99

02:28:39.000 You know, if you can make a dog to be an English bulldog that can't walk and can't breathe right, you can make a dog that can kill a wolf. 1.00

02:28:48.000 The thing, I think you could probably kill a wolf, but a pack of wolves, I think the pack of wolves will win.

02:28:53.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:28:54.000 Yeah, pack of wolves, you don't want to fuck with them. 1.00

02:28:56.000 Well, they're so much different than any other predator like that in that they operate as a unit and they think and they set traps for animals. 1.00

02:29:05.000 Yeah.

02:29:05.000 Wolves will funnel animals through the bottom of a canyon and they'll be waiting on the other side and they'll be waiting from the top so they can come down and the animals can't get away.

02:29:14.000 They'll chase them into an area. 0.76

02:29:16.000 They'll corral them. 0.76

02:29:17.000 Smart.

02:29:17.000 They're smart and they know.

02:29:19.000 They all have roles and somehow or another they know what their roles are.

02:29:23.000 Yeah, it's like a good basketball team.

02:29:24.000 Yeah.

02:29:26.000 Look, what is that thing?

02:29:28.000 Oh my god, that's a real animal?

02:29:30.000 What is that?

02:29:30.000 A Commodore.

02:29:31.000 And that could kill a wolf?

02:29:32.000 That's what it said.

02:29:33.000 Wow.

02:29:35.000 Made the list.

02:29:36.000 Well, I guess the wolf can't kill it.

02:29:37.000 How do you get to its body? 1.00

02:29:38.000 It's a fucking mop. 1.00

02:29:39.000 Look at that mop. 1.00

02:29:40.000 That's crazy.

02:29:41.000 Imagine taking that thing out in the Texas summer.

02:29:43.000 Yeah.

02:29:44.000 It would just drop dead.

02:29:45.000 Look, he can't even see his face.

02:29:47.000 Bro, that is a wild animal.

02:29:48.000 That seems like a Jurassic Park creature.

02:29:51.000 That doesn't seem like a real animal. 0.99

02:29:53.000 What the fuck can I see? 0.99

02:29:54.000 Doesn't that seem like a fantasy animal? 1.00

02:29:56.000 Yeah.

02:29:57.000 Like it would talk in a movie?

02:30:00.000 What?

02:30:01.000 It looks like if it was laying down and its head was down, you wouldn't even know it's a dog.

02:30:05.000 That's real?

02:30:07.000 Hungarian sheepdog. 0.72

02:30:08.000 Oh my god, that is so crazy. 0.91

02:30:10.000 Look at that thing laying there.

02:30:11.000 Looks like spaghetti.

02:30:13.000 It's a bath mat.

02:30:14.000 That's a real dog right there?

02:30:17.000 That's insane.

02:30:18.000 No, that's actually a bath mat.

02:30:20.000 That can't be a real dog.

02:30:21.000 I guess they're a dog named for it.

02:30:24.000 Oh, that's a dog out of the pool. 0.94

02:30:26.000 Wow.

02:30:27.000 That dog's like Gracie. 1.00

02:30:28.000 It doesn't look like it can fuck you up, but it'll fuck you up. 1.00

02:30:30.000 Isn't that crazy? 1.00

02:30:31.000 Poodles will fuck you up. 1.00

02:30:33.000 Poodles can be nasty. 1.00

02:30:34.000 The big ass poodles? 0.99

02:30:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:30:35.000 They just look cute and they make them with the crazy haircuts. 0.98

02:30:38.000 Yeah.

02:30:39.000 You know what's a nasty dog that a lot of people think isn't? 0.79

02:30:41.000 A Dalmatian is a nasty dog.

02:30:42.000 They use those to protect the horses.

02:30:44.000 The old school, they were used to protect horses that would go to fires.

02:30:49.000 And they're nasty.

02:30:51.000 A lot of people get Dalmatians because they're pretty and they look great and they're beautiful, but they're nasty dogs, Dalmatians. 1.00

02:30:57.000 Wow. 0.87

02:30:58.000 I've heard they bite people.

02:31:00.000 And then there was a thing after, not that all of them bite people, but there's been some instances.

02:31:05.000 There was a thing after 101 Dalmatians where people thought, oh, that's a cute dog.

02:31:10.000 They went and got Dalmatians. 0.77

02:31:12.000 No, it's not.

02:31:13.000 My kid is dead.

02:31:14.000 Well, huskies bite people.

02:31:16.000 I know that.

02:31:17.000 Huskies look like wolves.

02:31:18.000 Yeah.

02:31:19.000 I mean, I don't think huskies are wolves.

02:31:21.000 I'm not stupid.

02:31:22.000 But how close do they look like? 0.96

02:31:25.000 It looks like a wolf.

02:31:28.000 It looks so close.

02:31:29.000 It's like a wolf, yeah.

02:31:30.000 Cool picture of a husky, yeah.

02:31:31.000 So German shepherds look very wolf-like, too.

02:31:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:34.000 Sort of Belgian Malinois.

02:31:35.000 Yeah.

02:31:35.000 A lot of those long...

02:31:36.000 Like, that's so close.

02:31:38.000 Yeah.

02:31:39.000 I mean, it's clearly a husky, but, man, it looks a lot like a wolf.

02:31:43.000 It looks like a hot wolf.

02:31:44.000 Yeah, like a well-groomed wolf.

02:31:48.000 I mean, they definitely look different, right?

02:31:51.000 It looks more softened.

02:31:52.000 It doesn't look quite as terrifying. 0.97

02:31:55.000 Not even close to as terrifying, but they really look fucking similar. 0.98

02:32:00.000 How closely related are huskies to wolves? 0.98

02:32:03.000 Find that out.

02:32:06.000 Can they follow?

02:32:08.000 Is a pug more removed from a wolf than a husky?

02:32:14.000 How does it work?

02:32:14.000 For sure.

02:32:15.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:32:16.000 There's certain dogs that are closer, without a doubt.

02:32:18.000 A pug is obviously not as close as a dog like a husky.

02:32:22.000 But can they measure it?

02:32:23.000 I'm sure they can.

02:32:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

02:32:25.000 But how do they measure it if they're all, at one point in time, wolves?

02:32:29.000 Maybe they look at the DNA somehow?

02:32:31.000 Right, I wonder what it is that makes a husky look so much more like a wolf.

02:32:36.000 Anything?

02:32:40.000 Getting into it.

02:32:42.000 It looks like they might have been bred in the 30s.

02:32:45.000 First American Kennel Club formally recognized as a Siberian Husky in 1930. Oh, wow.

02:32:50.000 Yeah, maybe they just breed them down less.

02:32:52.000 It's just like they stop it.

02:32:54.000 They go, all right, we want something vicious, and then something strong that does the job or whatever it is, and it's closer to a wolf than a pug that just kind of sits around.

02:33:01.000 They keep breeding it down, breeding it down, breeding it down.

02:33:03.000 It just gets farther and farther away from the original thing.

02:33:06.000 I was listening to a Radiolab podcast.

02:33:07.000 They were talking about how they did this really quickly with foxes.

02:33:11.000 They had foxes and the foxes had like, you know, they had them kept in cages.

02:33:17.000 And if you got near the fox, if it growled at any of the scientists, they would shoot it and kill it.

02:33:23.000 So all the ones that expressed any sort of aggression towards people they killed.

02:33:27.000 And then they slowly started feeding these things and taking care of these things and over time, and not that many generations, their ears started to flop, their snouts started to shorten, they became more soft looking and less intimidating looking.

02:33:43.000 It like changed what these foxes looked like in a short amount of time.

02:33:48.000 It's crazy.

02:33:49.000 Yeah, I don't remember how long the demonstration was, or how long the experimentation was.

02:33:53.000 But you could probably not do that with any other animal.

02:33:56.000 I remember reading once that the dogs have this unique malleable gene that no other species, no other animal has, and that's why we're able to kind of tailor them for jobs in generations, because of this specific malleable gene.

02:34:09.000 I mean, I don't know what it's called, but it's something unique to canines.

02:34:13.000 I think this is true, that there's also something about dogs' eyes, that dogs possess an ability to express emotion with their eyes that wolves don't.

02:34:24.000 See if that's true.

02:34:25.000 Because I'm pretty sure that's true, that I had read that or heard that, that dogs have, you know, a dog can look at you and they express things with their eyes.

02:34:35.000 Wolves just look at you all the time like this.

02:34:37.000 Yeah.

02:34:38.000 Wolves just, they don't have that ability to express emotion with their eyes.

02:34:42.000 Right.

02:34:42.000 Yeah, the puppy dog face.

02:34:43.000 The puppy dog eyes.

02:34:44.000 Oh, okay.

02:34:44.000 What does it say?

02:34:45.000 I'm trying to get to the article about it.

02:34:47.000 Oh, so that's what they call it?

02:34:48.000 A puppy dog eyes?

02:34:49.000 I'm trying to see if it's just about a wolf not doing it.

02:34:51.000 Hmm.

02:34:52.000 Yeah.

02:34:52.000 It's a special muscle that dogs did develop, though, over time that didn't exist.

02:34:57.000 Yeah, it says this facial muscle... 0.99

02:34:59.000 That's fucking wild. 0.99

02:35:00.000 ...melt many people's hearts that does not exist in wolves, the ancestor of dogs. 1.00

02:35:03.000 Wow.

02:35:04.000 It's a muscle.

02:35:05.000 And just to let us know that, you know, you love me.

02:35:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:35:08.000 My dog, Marshall, he definitely got that shit. 1.00

02:35:11.000 Oh, hell yeah. 1.00

02:35:11.000 He looks right at you. 1.00

02:35:12.000 Yeah, he's a loving dog.

02:35:14.000 He's a sweetie.

02:35:14.000 I love when they try to figure out what you're doing, and they turn their head, they're like, what is it?

02:35:18.000 What is he saying to me?

02:35:19.000 I used to have a dog, and when I would say to her, do you want to go for a walk?

02:35:32.000 They get pumped about everything.

02:35:34.000 I think also endorphins are released in both animals, like the relationship between humans and dogs, they're good for you because the interaction of both species release endorphins.

02:35:48.000 I mean, I make fun of it, but there's a reality of an emotional support dog.

02:35:53.000 Dogs give you a good feeling, like a drug.

02:35:57.000 There's love.

02:35:58.000 There's love in dogs.

02:35:59.000 When I come home and there's no one in the house but my dog, I'm like, what's up?

02:36:03.000 Dog is pumped.

02:36:04.000 Yeah, I'm like, what's up?

02:36:06.000 You know, and then I'll take him out to pee.

02:36:09.000 We'll hang out outside a little bit.

02:36:11.000 We'll play.

02:36:11.000 Yeah.

02:36:12.000 Like, he's so happy to see you.

02:36:14.000 I've never had a dog that's, like, more connected to people than that dog.

02:36:18.000 Than Marshall?

02:36:19.000 Yeah.

02:36:19.000 He's so connected to people.

02:36:21.000 He loves everybody.

02:36:22.000 He said what's up to everybody in that room.

02:36:24.000 He's like, what's up, what's up?

02:36:25.000 And he does the route.

02:36:27.000 And then he comes back and does it again.

02:36:29.000 Dude.

02:36:29.000 He was in this room.

02:36:30.000 He would be doing that.

02:36:31.000 He'd be over by Jamie.

02:36:32.000 Hi, Jamie.

02:36:33.000 If he was a comic, he'd do great in the business.

02:36:35.000 He's a great networker.

02:36:36.000 Be an amazing networker.

02:36:38.000 Yeah.

02:36:39.000 He's just a love sponge.

02:36:40.000 My friend Mike said that.

02:36:42.000 That's what he calls golden retrievers.

02:36:45.000 They're love sponges.

02:36:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:36:47.000 But there's other animals that are just fucking not that agreeable. 0.97

02:36:50.000 And you need those animals for certain tasks. 0.98

02:36:53.000 Like if you're going to fight off wolves, Marshall is not your huckleberry.

02:36:56.000 No, that's not.

02:36:58.000 Marshall would be like, what's up?

02:37:00.000 Yeah.

02:37:00.000 They'd be like, why are you dudes not acting chill?

02:37:03.000 I remember a dog bit him once when we were running, and it was weird.

02:37:07.000 It was a yellow lab.

02:37:08.000 There was a yellow lab that was like a bad dog that lived on our street.

02:37:12.000 So I'm running down the hills with Marshall, and then this guy comes with the yellow lab, and he doesn't have control of the dog.

02:37:19.000 And the dog just runs up to Marshall and bites him, and I have to run over and break it up, and I'm breaking it up, and Marshall's like, what the hell?

02:37:30.000 Like, this is his look.

02:37:31.000 Like, what?

02:37:33.000 He didn't fight back at all.

02:37:35.000 He didn't fight back at all.

02:37:36.000 He didn't know what to do.

02:37:37.000 And he was only like one at the time.

02:37:39.000 He was a puppy still. 1.00

02:37:40.000 But it was like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:37:42.000 He'd never imagined someone would bite him. 1.00

02:37:44.000 Yeah.

02:37:45.000 Like, I'm your friend.

02:37:46.000 Yeah.

02:37:46.000 I come here to say hi.

02:37:47.000 Yeah.

02:37:48.000 Did he change after that?

02:37:50.000 Did he get insecure around dogs?

02:37:51.000 No, I mean, I was a little more careful with him after that.

02:37:56.000 In certain areas where I knew that there's people on the trails, I would put them on a leash.

02:38:01.000 But most of the time when we would run this one area, it was kind of precarious terrain, and I was the only one running it most of the time with Marshall.

02:38:10.000 It's amazing how dogs just either like each other or don't, and they figure it out quick, and it kind of doesn't change.

02:38:16.000 They're kind of like women in that way. 1.00

02:38:18.000 Well, some dogs just don't like other dogs.

02:38:20.000 Yeah, and they know immediately from a smell or something.

02:38:23.000 They don't like other dogs at all, like any dog they run to they don't like.

02:38:26.000 No, but even just with personality, it's just sometimes two dogs don't get along, and somehow they know and they meet, and it's like, it doesn't...

02:38:33.000 Well, some dogs don't like people.

02:38:35.000 Like, certain people.

02:38:36.000 Like, they'll like you.

02:38:37.000 They come, oh, hi, Jan. 1.00

02:38:38.000 And then someone else walks in the room like, ooh, this motherfucker. 1.00

02:38:40.000 I'm like, bro, that dog doesn't like you. 1.00

02:38:41.000 Yeah.

02:38:41.000 They just decide not to like a person.

02:38:43.000 Yeah.

02:38:43.000 I wonder why.

02:38:44.000 I wonder what it is.

02:38:45.000 I bet they can smell weirdness.

02:38:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:48.000 I bet if you are scared of the dog, I bet the dog catches those vibes and maybe you seem erratic, like you might do something stupid. 1.00

02:38:55.000 Right. 1.00

02:38:55.000 And the dog's like, oh, look at this dumb motherfucker. 1.00

02:38:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:57.000 And the dog's staring at you and it's like, oh, he doesn't like you. 1.00

02:39:00.000 No, he's, like, worried about you.

02:39:01.000 Right. 0.99

02:39:01.000 He might do something dumb. 0.99

02:39:02.000 He's a protector. 0.93

02:39:04.000 So if a dog is around its owner and then a person walks over that's super nervous, the dog probably thinks, oh, this guy's going to jack my owner. 0.99

02:39:13.000 They probably can smell shit that we can't even imagine. 0.98

02:39:16.000 Their noses are so much more sensitive than ours. 1.00

02:39:19.000 It's like a superpower.

02:39:20.000 It's insane.

02:39:20.000 They can smell for like a mile away.

02:39:23.000 It's crazy.

02:39:24.000 They have insane noses, but you ready for this?

02:39:26.000 A bear's nose is like nine times stronger.

02:39:28.000 I believe it.

02:39:29.000 A bear's nose is like one of the most preposterous things in all of nature. 1.00

02:39:33.000 They can smell shit way better than a bloodhound can. 1.00

02:39:36.000 Wow. 1.00

02:39:37.000 They can smell people like 800 yards away.

02:39:40.000 Wow.

02:39:41.000 There's been videos of guys on hills like spying on these bears with binoculars and they feel wind at the back of their neck so the wind is behind them and the bear just goes like that with his nose and runs.

02:39:52.000 Crazy.

02:39:53.000 Eight football fields.

02:39:55.000 Crazy.

02:39:56.000 Do you think the dogs are in touch?

02:39:59.000 That gut feeling we have is the same instinct that all animals have, like a dog has.

02:40:05.000 Because the gut always ends up being right, for the most part.

02:40:09.000 Sometimes, yeah.

02:40:10.000 I had a Finnish friend who once explained it to me as like, always listen to your gut because that's millions of years of survival instinct from all your ancestors beyond when they were human.

02:40:22.000 Like that feeling, that's what that is.

02:40:24.000 And I was like, oh, that's a cool way to describe what that gut feeling is.

02:40:26.000 There's got to be some of that.

02:40:28.000 There's got to be something to that.

02:40:29.000 They say the gut is also like when people talk about like feeling things like with their heart, like when you trust your heart, like that kind.

02:40:38.000 Like your heart has a bunch of neurons in it.

02:40:40.000 I think it has the second, didn't we Google this, like the second most amount of neurons in the body?

02:40:46.000 Something like that?

02:40:47.000 In the stomach, the heart does too.

02:40:48.000 In the stomach too.

02:40:49.000 So they all have neurons.

02:40:51.000 And so it's like trust your heart, trust your gut.

02:40:53.000 I think those things, those sayings, come from a real thing.

02:40:57.000 Like maybe you could feel certain things.

02:40:59.000 And maybe we're like less connected to it. 0.97

02:41:02.000 Because we've gotten used to cities and supermarkets and all the shit that we deal with today that's kind of softened us and turned us into human pugs. 0.58

02:41:11.000 But I bet those instincts are still there in like times of danger. 0.95

02:41:14.000 Right, right.

02:41:15.000 They pop up.

02:41:17.000 Okay, here it is.

02:41:18.000 The human gut is lined with more than a hundred million nerve cells.

02:41:21.000 It's practically a brain unto itself and indeed the gut actually talks to the brain releasing hormones into the bloodstream that over the course of about ten minutes tell us how hungry it is or that we shouldn't have eaten an entire pizza.

02:41:34.000 Wow, that's wild.

02:41:35.000 So actually there is some science behind what you feel in your gut?

02:41:39.000 And also those expressions.

02:41:43.000 Yeah, Dr. Amor in 1991 discovered that the heart has its little brain or intrinsic cardiac nervous system.

02:41:51.000 This heart brain is composed of approximately 40,000 neurons that are alike neurons in the brain, meaning that the heart has its own nervous system.

02:42:02.000 Wild!

02:42:03.000 I did not know that at all.

02:42:04.000 That's crazy.

02:42:05.000 That is crazy.

02:42:06.000 Trust your heart, trust your gut.

02:42:09.000 There's something to that.

02:42:10.000 There's something to that.

02:42:11.000 Imagine that, but now imagine that with a wolf.

02:42:16.000 Imagine what they can sense.

02:42:17.000 They probably sense so many things.

02:42:19.000 They probably sense Anger, they probably sense like a heightened awareness, calmness.

02:42:25.000 They probably can tell like what you're gonna do before you do it.

02:42:29.000 It's probably one of the reasons why they can communicate with each other.

02:42:32.000 They're probably like signaling their intent through smells.

02:42:36.000 Like when they see a moose and they're hungry, they probably signal their intent through smells.

02:42:41.000 They probably signal their intent either to chase the moose or to be one of the ones that sneaks up behind it when you are chasing it towards it.

02:42:48.000 They probably figure it out through smells.

02:42:50.000 Right.

02:42:50.000 Because they're not talking, right?

02:42:52.000 They're sneaky.

02:42:53.000 I wonder if like prehistoric man is better at reading people probably because it meant the survival of Their tribe.

02:43:01.000 They were probably much more in touch with that.

02:43:05.000 To be like, ah, this dude is weak, or this dude's a character, or this dude's two-faced, or whatever.

02:43:09.000 For sure, right?

02:43:10.000 I mean, if your survival relied on you being able to tell what a person is capable of or not capable of fairly quickly, they're probably more tuned in.

02:43:24.000 If they weren't, maybe psychopaths and psychopaths would have propagated more.

02:43:31.000 Maybe.

02:43:32.000 Because if you're in a tribe back then, if you were all out for yourself, it was probably bad for the tribe.

02:43:38.000 Oh yeah, definitely. 1.00

02:43:39.000 And so they probably sniffed you out and were like, fuck you, and then the psychopath had to go... 1.00

02:43:44.000 Yeah, like if a tribe found out that someone was hoarding food or taking more than their own share... 1.00

02:43:48.000 Yeah, or just being like nefarious or manipulative, like trying to sow division because...

02:43:54.000 Trying to kill the chief because they want to be the chief.

02:43:55.000 They want to be the chief. 1.00

02:43:57.000 They'd probably sniff that shit out. 0.99

02:43:59.000 I mean, how many coup attempts have there been on chiefs and tribes? 1.00

02:44:03.000 Yeah.

02:44:05.000 It's like almost nobody would make it to the end of their reign without someone trying to take them out.

02:44:09.000 Nobody.

02:44:10.000 Nobody.

02:44:10.000 It's not human nature to...

02:44:12.000 It's human nature to try to do it, yeah.

02:44:14.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:44:15.000 It probably had, you know, over time it probably evolved.

02:44:19.000 I need an advisor, I need this, because they took out that dude.

02:44:23.000 And then maybe the tribe, like the chief has a bunch of wives, and one of the guys starts secretly banging the wife. 1.00

02:44:31.000 Because the chief can't fuck all of them. 1.00

02:44:33.000 Yeah, no. 1.00

02:44:34.000 Because, you know, some of those guys have a gang of wives. 1.00

02:44:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:44:37.000 So people are like, fuck him. 1.00

02:44:38.000 Why does he have so many wives? 1.00

02:44:40.000 Right?

02:44:42.000 Isn't that funny that that's one of the cult leaders?

02:44:46.000 Always.

02:44:48.000 Always.

02:44:49.000 They always... 1.00

02:44:50.000 Fucking a lot of women is always part of their religion somehow. 1.00

02:44:55.000 Yeah, any cult. 1.00

02:44:56.000 I mean, anything where someone's going to be the top dog.

02:45:00.000 You know, they say that was what was going on in the Catholic Church before they made them be celibate.

02:45:06.000 That priests used to be banging everybody.

02:45:09.000 They were rock stars.

02:45:10.000 So that came later?

02:45:12.000 Yeah, it came later.

02:45:13.000 Yeah, celibacy was introduced to the Catholic Church, and I think part of it was because they had too much influence and too much power. 0.99

02:45:21.000 They were probably fucking everybody. 0.98

02:45:23.000 I didn't know that. 1.00

02:45:24.000 I thought they started as that, that they couldn't marry.

02:45:26.000 Take yourself back to the time before the Bible was translated, like in a bunch of different languages, like before Martin Luther.

02:45:35.000 If you had the Bible, it was in Latin.

02:45:37.000 You had to be able to read Latin.

02:45:39.000 How many people knew Latin?

02:45:40.000 Right.

02:45:41.000 Right?

02:45:41.000 So it was like a protected priest class that knew how to do this.

02:45:44.000 And you were the literal messenger of God.

02:45:47.000 Right. 0.99

02:45:48.000 You were pious and they probably fucked everybody. 1.00

02:45:50.000 Right. 1.00

02:45:51.000 Like preachers do, evangelists. 1.00

02:45:55.000 We just assume those guys fuck a lot. 1.00

02:45:56.000 Yeah, they do. 1.00

02:45:57.000 You know they all do.

02:45:58.000 You know they do.

02:45:58.000 Like during that Jim Baker scandal.

02:46:00.000 Of course he fucks. 1.00

02:46:01.000 They always do. 1.00

02:46:02.000 Of course he fucks. 1.00

02:46:04.000 One of my favorites. 0.99

02:46:05.000 He's a rock star.

02:46:05.000 Yeah, one of my favorites.

02:46:06.000 Yeah, like, dude, Joel Osteen is a star.

02:46:09.000 Star.

02:46:10.000 He plays arenas.

02:46:11.000 Arenas.

02:46:12.000 Yeah, dude is a star.

02:46:13.000 Beautiful hair.

02:46:14.000 He looks fantastic.

02:46:15.000 He looks fantastic.

02:46:16.000 Nice suits.

02:46:17.000 Yeah.

02:46:17.000 My favorite is that story recently where they found like 600 grand or something in the bathroom of the church.

02:46:24.000 Did you hear about that?

02:46:24.000 I did hear about that.

02:46:25.000 Yeah, I love that story.

02:46:26.000 Was that his church?

02:46:27.000 That was his church.

02:46:28.000 He's got money buried in the walls.

02:46:30.000 Yeah, he got money buried, literally buried in the walls.

02:46:32.000 Just in case they come for him.

02:46:33.000 Yeah.

02:46:34.000 What year was celibacy introduced into the Catholic Church?

02:46:38.000 It's a long, long time ago.

02:46:40.000 At first I'd said a thousand years ago, basically, but now I'm seeing the first written mandate requiring priests to become chaste came in AD 304. AD 304. So the year 304. That's when they got tired of priest fucking everybody.

02:46:57.000 That's the only explanation. 1.00

02:46:59.000 Priests, they mutated in a weird way after that.

02:47:02.000 Like COVID. Not good.

02:47:03.000 Yeah, they mutated in a bad way.

02:47:05.000 Mutated to be a worse virus.

02:47:07.000 Imagine any other religion. 0.53

02:47:09.000 Because COVID, I mean COVID rather, the Catholic Church, the reason why they're allowed to get away with what they get away with, because they've been around so long. 0.73

02:47:16.000 Here's a quote from Paul in his first letter to the Corinthians.

02:47:20.000 Recommend celibacy for women. 1.00

02:47:22.000 To the unmarried and the widows, I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. 0.99

02:47:28.000 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry.

02:47:31.000 For it is better to marry than be aflame with passion.

02:47:35.000 Whoa.

02:47:36.000 Imagine how they thought about things back then.

02:47:38.000 But that is women. 1.00

02:47:39.000 That's telling women, but that's in the Bible, just telling women to be, you know, don't be a hoe. 1.00

02:47:47.000 All religions, it's written by insecure dudes. 0.87

02:47:50.000 Like, hey ladies.

02:47:51.000 Don't be aflame with passion.

02:47:53.000 Don't enjoy sex at all.

02:47:54.000 You're there for your dude. 0.99

02:47:56.000 Imagine how wild people must have fucked back then too. 0.99

02:47:59.000 Aflame with passion. 1.00

02:48:01.000 Aflame with passion.

02:48:01.000 You know, there were wilder people.

02:48:03.000 Yeah.

02:48:03.000 But we really did...

02:48:05.000 Oppressed women's sexuality till recently.

02:48:08.000 I mean like...

02:48:09.000 Of course.

02:48:10.000 Yeah.

02:48:10.000 Look at what's happening in other parts of the world right now.

02:48:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:48:13.000 The places where women are still getting their clits cut off. 0.99

02:48:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:48:17.000 Yeah.

02:48:17.000 I mean like they recently like are trying to understand their orgasms like the last hundred years or 50 years or whatever it is like women's liberation like they're understanding the power.

02:48:26.000 They have multiple orgasms. 0.96

02:48:27.000 I mean you could really enjoy sex if you're a woman. 1.00

02:48:30.000 When do you think women- More than men. 0.93

02:48:32.000 What do you think it was like back then?

02:48:34.000 It was probably commonplace.

02:48:37.000 Rape was probably commonplace. 1.00

02:48:39.000 Beatings were probably commonplace.

02:48:41.000 Yeah.

02:48:42.000 Yeah, there were.

02:48:43.000 I mean, my grandfather, this is a true story.

02:48:45.000 My grandfather was born on a small island that used to be called Imbros, which is now Turkish.

02:48:51.000 It's got a Turkish name.

02:48:52.000 But during the Ottoman Empire, there was like a local sultan, I guess.

02:48:57.000 They had like these viceroys that were set up around the Ottoman Empire that kind of controlled the region like Pontius Pilate was in the Roman Empire. 0.98

02:49:03.000 And he was known for like raping kids. 0.95

02:49:06.000 So my great grandparents sent him to Egypt because they didn't want him to be raped by the Sultan and he never returned. 0.97

02:49:16.000 He never saw his family again.

02:49:18.000 He grew up in Egypt and then from Egypt he came to America.

02:49:20.000 But that's a true story.

02:49:22.000 So that was his life story.

02:49:24.000 I mean that's what he had to deal with back then.

02:49:26.000 That was during the Ottoman Empire when Greeks were slaves.

02:49:29.000 Wow.

02:49:31.000 So, I think a great portion...

02:49:33.000 History's just full of brutality.

02:49:36.000 Brutality.

02:49:36.000 There's brutality.

02:49:38.000 You know, in Russia, it's still legal to hit your wife?

02:49:42.000 I didn't know that.

02:49:43.000 Domestic violence is not against the law.

02:49:45.000 Make sure that's true.

02:49:46.000 Make sure that's true.

02:49:47.000 Yeah, it's just...

02:49:49.000 I wish people in America would realize that more.

02:49:53.000 Like, you know, the real flaw in freedom and the real irony to the amount when you complain is that you're allowed to complain, which means you have it good.

02:50:04.000 Yeah.

02:50:04.000 That's sort of the oxymoron of it all.

02:50:06.000 Like, you're complaining a lot because you feel like something's wrong, but that you're able to complain is an indication of how good you have it. 0.98

02:50:12.000 Because try to bring up those complaints to King Z or whoever the fuck, and you just disappear. 0.99

02:50:17.000 Yeah, they'll cut you in half in front of your kids. 0.99

02:50:21.000 So, what does it say?

02:50:23.000 January 2017, lawmakers voted 30 to 3 to decriminalize certain forms of domestic violence.

02:50:31.000 Under the new law, first-time offenses that did not result in serious bodily harm, carrying a maximum fine of 30,000 rubles up to 15 days administrative arrest or up to 120 hours of community service.

02:50:50.000 Wow.

02:50:50.000 They decriminalized domestic violence in 2017. Jesus Christ.

02:50:55.000 That was just a few years ago.

02:50:56.000 Yeah.

02:50:57.000 Jesus Christ.

02:50:58.000 That's basically giving a green light to the pimp slap.

02:51:00.000 To what Will Smith did to Chris Rock that is not a crime to do to your wife in Russia.

02:51:05.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:51:06.000 Chris Rock should have fucking hit him back. 1.00

02:51:08.000 Should have jumped on his back as soon as he turned his back like that. 1.00

02:51:11.000 That just gets filtered through an MMA brain. 1.00

02:51:14.000 100%.

02:51:14.000 Dude, take us back.

02:51:16.000 Listen, man.

02:51:17.000 Here's the reality.

02:51:18.000 You don't slap a man in the face and then turn your back and walk away unless you should have never slapped that man in the first place.

02:51:25.000 Because you're only slapping a guy who you know can't slap you back.

02:51:28.000 That's why I slap.

02:51:29.000 That's the only reason why he slapped him and then turned his back and walked away.

02:51:32.000 Look, if he slapped him and then stood his ground and waited for a return and was ready to go to war, that's one thing.

02:51:37.000 But when you slap a man and you turn around and go back to your seat, that is a sure sign you should not have slapped that man.

02:51:43.000 It's not fair.

02:51:44.000 I just had this image of a movie, like the Karate Kid, where Chris Rock just shows up in Austin and he's like, hey Joe, you know, you betrayed me!

02:51:52.000 I was thinking to my friends last night, I was like, imagine if Chris Rock had just a year of solid jiu-jitsu training under his belt. 0.97

02:51:58.000 And as soon as Will Smith turns his back, he just leaps and takes his back and just squeezes Will out before the fuck, before the security guards can get to him. 0.98

02:52:08.000 Will Smith goes out. 0.99

02:52:09.000 Wipes that smirk off Will Smith's face.

02:52:11.000 Listen, apparently they worked it out.

02:52:13.000 Like, I read that they talked and Will Smith made a statement and Chris Rock even apologized.

02:52:19.000 And apparently they talked backstage and worked it out, which is the best.

02:52:23.000 I don't think Will Smith should go to jail.

02:52:25.000 I don't think any of that stuff should happen.

02:52:26.000 I don't think they should take away his Academy Award. 0.96

02:52:28.000 I think he knows it was a foolish act. 0.93

02:52:30.000 Everybody else knows. 0.92

02:52:31.000 And I think it's one of those learning experiences for the world.

02:52:34.000 It's like a teachable moment, right?

02:52:36.000 Like the whole world can see that we put stars and celebrities up on pedestals, but they're just human beings.

02:52:42.000 And sometimes human beings get pushed to the point where they do something irrational.

02:52:45.000 And that's what he did.

02:52:46.000 He just did something totally irrational that he's completely embarrassed by.

02:52:50.000 Right. 0.98

02:52:50.000 Well, you know that's what you get for marrying a woman with a headshot. 0.98

02:52:56.000 Bobby Kelly told me a long time ago, don't marry a woman with a headshot.

02:53:00.000 I mean, there's two egos, you know?

02:53:02.000 There's two egos.

02:53:04.000 Yeah, but it works in some cases.

02:53:05.000 Some cases it does work.

02:53:06.000 If you meet the perfect woman and she has a headshot, who cares? 1.00

02:53:09.000 Yeah.

02:53:10.000 It's like, look at Tom Segurin and Christina Pazitsky.

02:53:12.000 That works.

02:53:12.000 There's a few examples.

02:53:14.000 Bonnie McFarlane and Rich Voss.

02:53:15.000 Totally works.

02:53:16.000 That works.

02:53:16.000 And it works off each other.

02:53:18.000 Those guys are hilarious together.

02:53:18.000 They are hilarious.

02:53:20.000 Hilarious together.

02:53:21.000 Hilarious.

02:53:21.000 Steve Carell and Nancy Walls, I think, are both comics.

02:53:25.000 There's plenty of examples.

02:53:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:53:27.000 Plenty of examples.

02:53:28.000 Natasha Leggero and Moshe Kasher.

02:53:31.000 Moshe Kasher.

02:53:31.000 Great example.

02:53:32.000 Yes.

02:53:32.000 It works out in some cases.

02:53:34.000 Yes, it does.

02:53:35.000 But it can be problematic.

02:53:37.000 Yeah.

02:53:37.000 Comedians can be hard to be friends.

02:53:39.000 I mean, there's comedians that neither of us can be friends with.

02:53:41.000 Yeah.

02:53:42.000 You know?

02:53:43.000 He's too much.

02:53:44.000 He's just like...

02:53:44.000 Some of them, you know, you say hi to them, you try to be civil when you see them, but they don't really have any friends.

02:53:50.000 Right.

02:53:50.000 Those are weird guys, man.

02:53:51.000 How do you deal with friendship now?

02:53:53.000 Like, how do you...

02:53:54.000 You're in such a...

02:53:55.000 Like, do you have to be...

02:53:56.000 You have to vet more?

02:53:57.000 Like, how does it...

02:53:59.000 Like, what's your barometer?

02:54:01.000 How do you measure, like, who you like and who you don't?

02:54:04.000 Is it a gut feeling?

02:54:05.000 Is it more of a...

02:54:05.000 It's a little bit of a gut feeling.

02:54:06.000 It's talking to people and getting to know them.

02:54:08.000 But, you know, I have a lot of really good friends already.

02:54:11.000 Right.

02:54:11.000 So that helps.

02:54:12.000 Do you feel like the older you get, the less friends you need?

02:54:14.000 Because I find that.

02:54:14.000 I feel like...

02:54:15.000 There's that.

02:54:15.000 But there's, like, the less acquaintances you need because you want to spend more time with your really good friends.

02:54:21.000 Like, if I hang out with one of my friends, you know, I'm hanging out with them for hours.

02:54:24.000 Right.

02:54:25.000 We're going to do a show together, maybe.

02:54:27.000 We're going to go get some dinner together.

02:54:29.000 We're hanging out for hours and laughing.

02:54:32.000 There's so many things I like to do.

02:54:35.000 I have so many interests.

02:54:38.000 I don't have time to be spending time with people that I'm not really interested in talking to.

02:54:42.000 So there's no room.

02:54:44.000 I have a lot of friends.

02:54:46.000 And also, as you get older, do you think there's some subconscious realization that there's just less time available, so I want to make the most...

02:54:52.000 Because time is actually more valuable than money, right?

02:54:54.000 It's the only thing you can't get back.

02:54:56.000 Yeah, time and health.

02:54:58.000 Health is the most valuable thing.

02:55:00.000 Well, the health gives you time.

02:55:01.000 Yes, it helps.

02:55:03.000 You can appreciate your time because you're not suffering.

02:55:07.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

02:55:08.000 The way I manage it is like the way I manage everything.

02:55:11.000 I just be myself.

02:55:12.000 There's all kinds of cool people that are just regular folks.

02:55:17.000 They do get weirded out when they meet a famous person.

02:55:21.000 But after a while, they get used to it.

02:55:22.000 Yeah.

02:55:23.000 Well, you've got a comic vibe.

02:55:25.000 Even the first time I met you, it was intimidating the first time doing the show, but a few people mentioned it.

02:55:30.000 I remember Schultz saying that after he did it.

02:55:32.000 He's like, he's a comic, man.

02:55:34.000 And then when I came in the first time, I felt that way.

02:55:36.000 I was like, yeah, there's a certain...

02:55:38.000 Down-to-earthness that comics have because we kind of need it.

02:55:41.000 Have to have it.

02:55:42.000 You have to have it or else you're kind of disconnected from what you need to do as your job.

02:55:46.000 Yeah, your job is to connect to people.

02:55:47.000 Yeah.

02:55:48.000 Like to connect to people in a real way.

02:55:50.000 Yeah.

02:55:50.000 Like they got to really know that like you're smiling at them, you're laughing.

02:55:53.000 We're both having a good time together.

02:55:54.000 Yeah.

02:55:55.000 Because that's really what comedy is, is sort of like a bond between the audience and the comic on this thing we share in common, which is like this tough life with struggle and uncertainty and mortality, and we're trying to emotionally feel better about it.

02:56:09.000 I cut comics so much more breaks than I cut anybody else. 0.88

02:56:12.000 I give them so much, because I know you're nuts, and I give them all the room.

02:56:17.000 But I also let them know, like, look, I'm a comic too, I'm your friend. 0.76

02:56:21.000 Like, I love comedy.

02:56:22.000 I love comedians, and that's our tribe.

02:56:24.000 Our tribe is comedians, and there's not that many of us.

02:56:27.000 The real number, it's probably a thousand worldwide.

02:56:33.000 The real number of, like, a real legitimate professional comedian that can go up and do an hour and kill, and has, like, maybe a following, and can tour clubs and theaters, and then colleges, and then you get to, like, big theaters and arenas.

02:56:48.000 How many of those are there?

02:56:49.000 Not many.

02:56:50.000 Arenas, not many.

02:56:51.000 Not many?

02:56:52.000 Not many for theaters?

02:56:53.000 How many for theaters?

02:56:54.000 Is there 50?

02:56:55.000 100?

02:56:55.000 Yeah.

02:56:56.000 Maybe 100?

02:56:57.000 Probably less, man.

02:56:58.000 Probably less.

02:56:59.000 Theaters, less.

02:56:59.000 So, in this country, I mean, you know, I've talked about it with many comics.

02:57:02.000 Like, how many guys in this country would you recommend your friend go see?

02:57:06.000 Right.

02:57:07.000 When you put it that way, it's not that many.

02:57:09.000 200?

02:57:10.000 Yeah.

02:57:10.000 200 guys, maybe, if you really wrote them all out?

02:57:12.000 Yeah.

02:57:13.000 It's not a lot of humans.

02:57:14.000 I say 200 guys.

02:57:15.000 There's a lot of girls in there, too. 1.00

02:57:16.000 A lot of very funny girls.

02:57:17.000 I mean, 200 humans.

02:57:19.000 But it's not that many.

02:57:21.000 There's a million doctors in this country.

02:57:23.000 There's a lot of occupations.

02:57:25.000 It's a very small tribe of people that are comics. 1.00

02:57:29.000 And so if you're a comic and you don't like other comics, you're missing out on the whole fucking point, stupid. 1.00

02:57:35.000 You get rude to other comics. 1.00

02:57:38.000 You don't like when other comics succeed.

02:57:40.000 You don't like other people being funny.

02:57:42.000 You try to downplay how good they are or why they're successful. 0.99

02:57:45.000 Shut up. 0.98

02:57:46.000 Yeah, that's a real unfortunate part of the business. 0.96

02:57:49.000 Maybe that's kind of lessons as the business has changed, but then kind of cancel culture came in where comics started going after other comics.

02:57:57.000 That's my pet peeve.

02:57:58.000 Those are good comics, though.

02:57:59.000 Not in a jokeful way, but when they're really morally indicting someone.

02:58:04.000 I hate...

02:58:06.000 Break balls about something, make jokes about something. 0.69

02:58:08.000 Someone's like morally indicting someone and it's a comic to another comic.

02:58:12.000 I find that disturbing.

02:58:13.000 It's very disturbing.

02:58:14.000 And it's always from comics that aren't that good.

02:58:17.000 Always.

02:58:18.000 It's not the best of the best doing that. 0.99

02:58:20.000 It's always these mediocre shitheads that want up doing that. 0.99

02:58:22.000 It's true. 0.99

02:58:23.000 Generally people that think they deserve more attention than they get.

02:58:26.000 And they relish the opportunity to take someone down a notch.

02:58:29.000 And they relish the opportunity to virtue signal and let all the people that follow them know that they're on the right side of history.

02:58:37.000 Yeah.

02:58:37.000 This and that.

02:58:39.000 Blah! 1.00

02:58:39.000 Yeah, it's bullshit. 1.00

02:58:40.000 Yeah, and by the way, now go kill. 1.00

02:58:43.000 Oh, you can't kill. 0.99

02:58:44.000 So this is more important?

02:58:44.000 Your activism is more important than your comedy?

02:58:46.000 Well, that's probably why they're doing it.

02:58:47.000 That's what happens, man.

02:58:48.000 They get to this point where they're really more of an activist than a comedian.

02:58:51.000 Like, okay.

02:58:52.000 Stop.

02:58:52.000 You're just not that good.

02:58:53.000 It's hard to do.

02:58:54.000 It's hard to do.

02:58:55.000 Just face what's going on.

02:58:57.000 You're not that good at this thing that's hard to do.

02:58:59.000 Yeah.

02:58:59.000 And also, this era, there's no excuse.

02:59:02.000 I feel like there's no excuse.

02:59:03.000 Even if I never had another ounce of success, I would never blame anything or anyone because the opportunities are there for anyone with the internet.

02:59:11.000 You can do whatever you want.

02:59:13.000 You can put Your content up, whatever it is you want to try to do, you got a chance to build your own thing.

02:59:18.000 You really do.

02:59:19.000 Who would trade this era for any other era?

02:59:22.000 This is the most free, to be a comic, it's the most free, accessible time that has ever existed At all.

02:59:30.000 And it's also a little fun.

02:59:31.000 I like the cancer culture.

02:59:32.000 It makes comedy a little dangerous again.

02:59:34.000 That's what Ari said.

02:59:35.000 Yeah, it's fun.

02:59:35.000 Ari had that great quote.

02:59:36.000 He said, comedy's dangerous again.

02:59:38.000 It's true.

02:59:38.000 You get in a room, you're like, you guys are sensitive, but let me play with that a little bit.

02:59:42.000 Yeah.

02:59:42.000 No, I couldn't agree more.

02:59:43.000 And I think there's also, this is strengthening the relationship that comedians have with each other.

02:59:47.000 Because before, we used to be competitors.

02:59:50.000 Like, maybe you and I would show up in the green room for a casting audition for a television show.

02:59:56.000 We're both reading for the part of Paul. 1.00

02:59:58.000 Like, oh, fuck. 1.00

02:59:59.000 You're reading from Paul too? 1.00

03:00:00.000 Now my friend is my competition. 0.63

03:00:03.000 So you hopefully, you know, I hope you bomb. 1.00

03:00:05.000 I hope you go in there and choke dick. 1.00

03:00:08.000 It's like that scene of Batman where the Joker just breaks the stick and goes, you guys fight it out. 1.00

03:00:13.000 That's what comedy was back then.

03:00:14.000 Yeah.

03:00:15.000 All these certain amount of spots.

03:00:16.000 The only certain amount of spots, and everybody had this goal, and the big goal was to get a sitcom, because that was like the honeypot that Jerry Seinfeld got and Roseanne got.

03:00:23.000 But then the internet came along, and we instead became assets to each other.

03:00:28.000 Wow.

03:00:29.000 So I have this podcast.

03:00:30.000 You're on my podcast.

03:00:31.000 Yeah.

03:00:31.000 It helps you, but it helps me too.

03:00:33.000 Yeah.

03:00:33.000 Because you're a funny guy, and you're a smart guy, and we're gonna have a fun conversation, and all the people that are on the treadmill right now are enjoying this.

03:00:40.000 So that's why it's an asset to each other.

03:00:42.000 Like, it helps promote you, but it also helps my show.

03:00:44.000 And also, people know that if I have people on, it's because I like them, and they're interesting, and they're funny.

03:00:51.000 And so then the audience trusts me more, because I keep introducing to more interesting, funny people.

03:00:57.000 They go, oh, he's got good taste in comics.

03:00:59.000 Right, right.

03:00:59.000 This is like we all, we can promote each other now because it's not like your show's on Tuesday at 8pm and so is mine.

03:01:07.000 No, your fucking show's on whenever the fuck you want. 1.00

03:01:09.000 Take a shit and on a plane. 1.00

03:01:11.000 Your show's on whenever anybody wants to see it. 1.00

03:01:13.000 So is mine.

03:01:13.000 And there's enough people.

03:01:15.000 Right.

03:01:15.000 This famine mentality went away with the internet because we all became assets to each other.

03:01:21.000 That's such a great way to describe it.

03:01:22.000 That's a perfect breakdown.

03:01:24.000 It's amazing.

03:01:24.000 I never thought about it as an asset.

03:01:26.000 We did become assets to each other.

03:01:27.000 Yeah, we became the opposite of a competitor.

03:01:30.000 We became comrades.

03:01:31.000 And then as the podcast community grew, we all found out about these other great podcasts because of each other.

03:01:40.000 Yeah.

03:01:40.000 So you find out about Two Bears, One Cave because they were on Skeptic Tank or they were on this or your podcast or Schultz's and Akash and everybody's sort of networking.

03:01:50.000 But they're networking not like NBC where we got some wacky contract we can't get out of.

03:01:54.000 Right.

03:01:54.000 It's a natural network.

03:01:56.000 Right. 0.99

03:01:56.000 Like, it's an organic network of friends that just like to bust balls and have fun and talk shit, and they always tell each other, oh, hey, Giannis has a new Netflix special out, you know, fucking Mark Norman just put his new shit out on YouTube, Shane Gillis has a new thing, like... 0.99

03:02:11.000 Everybody does that. 0.99

03:02:12.000 We all do that for each other.

03:02:13.000 All of us.

03:02:14.000 So it's changed that mentality that some of these older, cunty comedians still have.

03:02:20.000 They still have this competitive thing where anybody who does well is somehow or another taking from them.

03:02:27.000 Well, I guess a lot of people have a misunderstanding of what survival of the fittest means.

03:02:32.000 It doesn't actually mean the strongest survives.

03:02:35.000 It means the one who adapts best to change when the environment change survives.

03:02:39.000 And often sometimes it'll be the weakest from the previous environment who with the change...

03:02:45.000 With accepting the change becomes the strongest in the new environment.

03:02:48.000 That's actually what survival of the fittest means.

03:02:51.000 Well, we don't need one fittest anymore.

03:02:54.000 That's the thing.

03:02:55.000 It could be survival of community.

03:02:57.000 Those who adapt to this change and that mentality.

03:03:00.000 Those who've adapted to that mentality are going to flourish because that's what the environment is now.

03:03:05.000 Right, that's the fittest.

03:03:06.000 Yeah, you fit the environment best.

03:03:09.000 Not just like you've more endurance and strength.

03:03:12.000 No, you've adapted.

03:03:14.000 And it's also, it's more fun this way.

03:03:17.000 Totally.

03:03:17.000 Come on, we did that show last night.

03:03:19.000 It was so much fun.

03:03:20.000 It was so much fun.

03:03:20.000 And we do all these things together, whether we do podcasts together or shows together.

03:03:25.000 It's always like the same vibe.

03:03:27.000 Yeah.

03:03:27.000 When comics are around, like I do this show now with Normand, Shane Gillis, Ari, and me.

03:03:33.000 We call it Protect Our Parks. 0.95

03:03:35.000 Because one time, we were all baked as fuck and Ari couldn't shut up about this park that they were gonna get rid of in New York. 1.00

03:03:40.000 We gotta protect this park! 0.98

03:03:41.000 And so Shane starts ragging on them and saying that we're gonna call the podcast Protect Our Parks.

03:03:45.000 So we've literally changed the name of the, like, our chat group is called Protect Our Parks.

03:03:49.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

03:03:50.000 And the four of us together get together, we get obliterated, we get high as fuck and drunk, and we just talk shit for hours. 0.99

03:03:58.000 And it's always the same vibe. 0.99

03:04:00.000 Right.

03:04:00.000 Just fun.

03:04:01.000 Just comics.

03:04:02.000 Yeah, comics hanging. 1.00

03:04:03.000 Shooting the shit. 1.00

03:04:04.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

03:04:05.000 And it's also cool that comics can recommend other comics because who do you trust more?

03:04:09.000 Right.

03:04:09.000 Comics recommend people who are good.

03:04:12.000 Yeah.

03:04:13.000 Yeah, I have a few people recommend people.

03:04:15.000 They're New York guys.

03:04:16.000 And I call Ari.

03:04:17.000 He's like, whoa.

03:04:19.000 And I'm like, okay.

03:04:21.000 Don't say no more, champ.

03:04:25.000 Yeah, but it's a great time for comedy, too, because I don't think there's ever been more really funny up-and-comers, you know, more people that don't have to go through all the hurdles that they can put a thing up on YouTube, like you were saying.

03:04:36.000 They can put a thing up on Instagram, and it can become viral, and they become famous for it.

03:04:40.000 There's so many people, like Angela Johnson with her Vietnamese nail salon bit. 0.99

03:04:45.000 That fucking bit blew her up one bit. 1.00

03:04:48.000 I remember I was in San Jose and I was doing the improv, and she was doing a giant-ass theater. 1.00

03:04:54.000 She had a YouTube video that just blew her up. 1.00

03:04:56.000 I'm like, wow!

03:04:57.000 She had a billboard. 1.00

03:04:58.000 So she's got a fucking billboard? 1.00

03:04:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:05:00.000 Wow!

03:05:01.000 Yeah, you know, stand-ups don't have the monopoly on funny anymore that we used to because the Internet's opened it up to whoever wants to make videos, podcasts, whatever it is.

03:05:09.000 So a lot of guys end up having a funny video channel.

03:05:12.000 Oh, yeah.

03:05:12.000 Yeah.

03:05:13.000 I mean, they do stand-up later.

03:05:14.000 They're not as good, but they can become good.

03:05:16.000 They just keep doing it.

03:05:17.000 A lot of those YouTube guys and girls.

03:05:18.000 And if they keep doing it, they will.

03:05:19.000 Well, you know, look, one of the best versions of taking advantage of this new art form is Kyle Dunnigan and Kurt Metzger.

03:05:28.000 Ah, he's the funniest dude in the world, Kyle Dunnigan.

03:05:30.000 The two of them together is Batman and Robin.

03:05:33.000 Oh, and Kurt's just an amazing writer, and Kyle Dunnigan, dude.

03:05:36.000 Dude.

03:05:37.000 Everything you need to know about where to find your funny now is like, that dude's not on SNL, so it's like, what?

03:05:44.000 What?

03:05:44.000 Will you watch his Biden stuff?

03:05:46.000 He's the funniest fucking dude. 0.99

03:05:48.000 Kyle Dunnigan, I go there, I cry. 0.99

03:05:50.000 He did that Michael Jackson one.

03:05:53.000 Me and my wife would watch that. 0.99

03:05:56.000 I was fucking crying, dude. 0.99

03:05:57.000 I was crying. 0.99

03:05:58.000 They took that one down, I think, from Instagram.

03:06:01.000 Of course they did.

03:06:01.000 I think they took it down from Instagram.

03:06:02.000 I think they left it up on Twitter, but they took it down from Instagram.

03:06:05.000 It is, like, gut funny.

03:06:06.000 Gut funny.

03:06:08.000 Have you seen the Nancy Pelosi one?

03:06:10.000 Yeah.

03:06:11.000 When she has skeleton hands, she rubs them together and starts a fire.

03:06:18.000 It's so funny.

03:06:20.000 Those face swaps are so good.

03:06:22.000 He's such a good, talented impressionist, too.

03:06:25.000 Oh, he's amazing.

03:06:25.000 And there's also a lot of comedy in the impressions.

03:06:27.000 It's not just accurate.

03:06:28.000 It's also comedic.

03:06:30.000 It's so funny.

03:06:31.000 The two of them together are such an amazing combination.

03:06:34.000 Because Metzger is one of the most underrated writers and comics. 0.87

03:06:37.000 He's a guy, and he'll readily admit this, that he kind of fucked up because he got into the writing circuit.

03:06:42.000 And even though he's a great comic, people don't know him for that enough. 0.96

03:06:46.000 Because he spent so much time just writing and working on shows.

03:06:51.000 That he's a great writer, and he's still a great comic, but he didn't do the road.

03:06:55.000 Didn't have a lot of stuff that's out there where people can go see him and they know that he's...

03:06:59.000 But he's a brilliant comic.

03:07:00.000 And a brilliant dude.

03:07:01.000 Oh yeah, in New York, Kurt was like one of the guys everyone talked about.

03:07:05.000 Kurt as a stand-up.

03:07:07.000 Kurt was known in the New York scene as like...

03:07:10.000 He's a beast. 0.98

03:07:10.000 He's a great comic, but unfortunately, right now at least, people don't know that enough, and maybe it's good that we're talking about it right now, but the two of them together on that fucking show are a ruthless combination. 0.98

03:07:21.000 Dude, sometimes you have that chemistry with someone that you can't explain, it's just magical, and I hope those two dudes continue to ride that out, because that's hard to achieve, and when it happens, We should just keep it going.

03:07:34.000 It doesn't get enough attention.

03:07:35.000 It's one of those gems, those rare gems on Earth where it's like, God, people don't know about this enough.

03:07:41.000 And it's like Dave Attell.

03:07:42.000 Yeah, Dave Attell, yeah.

03:07:44.000 There's people that don't know enough about how good Dave Attell is.

03:07:47.000 Oh, he's so funny.

03:07:48.000 He might be the best comic alive.

03:07:50.000 Yeah.

03:07:50.000 He might be the best comic alive.

03:07:52.000 What joke was it?

03:07:53.000 I was dying. 1.00

03:07:54.000 He goes, you know that when a woman's riding you and she comes up off your dick, or as I like to call it, catching air? 1.00

03:08:03.000 He goes, the distance between how far she came up and where your dick is is how big she wishes your dick was. 1.00

03:08:16.000 So fucking funny. 1.00

03:08:17.000 He always has new shit. 1.00

03:08:19.000 Yeah, he's just a prolific animal. 1.00

03:08:21.000 He's an animal.

03:08:21.000 Yeah, he's like a stand-up savant.

03:08:23.000 Yeah.

03:08:24.000 Wears the same clothes every night.

03:08:25.000 Never changes his appearance.

03:08:27.000 Same kind of baseball hat. 0.94

03:08:29.000 Murders every night. 0.90

03:08:30.000 He looks like he's robbing a bank every night. 0.85

03:08:32.000 You see him.

03:08:32.000 He's got an outfit on.

03:08:33.000 He's about to go get money from a teller.

03:08:35.000 Chain smoking with a mask below his chin.

03:08:37.000 He always has that mask below his chin.

03:08:40.000 Even on stage.

03:08:41.000 He wears a mask below his chin on stage.

03:08:45.000 That's hilarious.

03:08:46.000 I love him.

03:08:47.000 And I love you too, man.

03:08:48.000 Thank you, man.

03:08:49.000 That's it.

03:08:50.000 Thanks for doing this.

03:08:50.000 Tell everybody how to find you on social media.

03:08:53.000 Yeah, just Giannis Pappas on all social medias.

03:08:55.000 My podcast, Long Days with Giannis Pappas.

03:08:57.000 Please check it out.

03:08:58.000 And my special is on Amazon.

03:09:00.000 Oh, before we stop, what was going on where you were getting episodes deleted?

03:09:05.000 Yeah.

03:09:06.000 Oh, YouTube?

03:09:06.000 What was that?

03:09:07.000 YouTube.

03:09:07.000 What were they doing?

03:09:07.000 Yeah, so the podcast, Long Days.

03:09:10.000 I was doing these episodes.

03:09:11.000 I put them up on YouTube, and then YouTube took one down.

03:09:16.000 I appealed it.

03:09:18.000 They denied the appeal.

03:09:20.000 And then like two weeks later, they took an episode down from like four to six months ago.

03:09:27.000 I can't remember how.

03:09:28.000 It was like when I started the podcast because it's fairly new.

03:09:30.000 I've only been doing it for a year.

03:09:33.000 And so I kept appealing and trying to find out, like, what did I do?

03:09:36.000 And went through all these hoops.

03:09:38.000 You talking about it probably is what overturned one of them.

03:09:42.000 They overturned one.

03:09:43.000 Because then I finally got to Human Review and they were like, yeah, I was on...

03:09:46.000 Because some fan time-coded what I said at the moment that they finally told me why it got taken down.

03:09:54.000 Like, they told me these are the problematic time-codes.

03:09:58.000 But they were nonsense. 0.99

03:09:59.000 It was fucking nonsense. 1.00

03:10:00.000 It's comedy and it's nonsense. 1.00

03:10:02.000 We read the code.

03:10:03.000 We read those time codes.

03:10:05.000 We read what the transcript of it was.

03:10:07.000 Yeah.

03:10:07.000 It didn't make any sense.

03:10:08.000 Doesn't make any sense.

03:10:09.000 It wasn't even remotely offensive.

03:10:10.000 I mean, it's crazy.

03:10:11.000 One was a joke about the gay pride parade.

03:10:13.000 And it was like me, I was like, you know, we all support gay rights.

03:10:17.000 I was like, but can we please move the gay pride parade tonight so I can explain...

03:10:22.000 Gay rights to my daughter. 1.00

03:10:23.000 I mean, I don't want to see your asshole before noon. 1.00

03:10:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:10:26.000 You know, so it's just making a joke about the gay bride being a little naked and it's during the day. 0.95

03:10:30.000 Yeah. 0.97

03:10:30.000 I don't care if you're gay or straight. 0.97

03:10:32.000 During the day, we're having brunch. 1.00

03:10:33.000 I don't want to see your fucking asshole. 1.00

03:10:34.000 Why is that offensive? 1.00

03:10:36.000 Gay guys were messaging me on Twitter talking about how funny they thought it was.

03:10:39.000 Yeah.

03:10:40.000 One gay guy I remember messaged, he goes, he goes, not only do I think it's funny, he's like, it's kind of true. 1.00

03:10:45.000 He was saying it, he's like, and I'm a gay guy.

03:10:47.000 Yeah.

03:10:47.000 Dude, I've seen guys with G-strings and those leather, what are those called?

03:10:52.000 Spats?

03:10:52.000 What are those things called that horse guys wear?

03:10:54.000 Chaps. 1.00

03:10:55.000 Jamie knows.

03:10:55.000 G-strings and chaps.

03:10:57.000 Yeah.

03:10:58.000 Running down Santa Monica during the gay pride parade.

03:11:00.000 Yeah, it's like, all right, dude. 1.00

03:11:01.000 Wide open asshole. 1.00

03:11:02.000 Yeah, I mean, just because, you know, come on, dude. 1.00

03:11:04.000 You can't have any type of parade.

03:11:06.000 It's not appropriate.

03:11:07.000 I don't care what your sexuality is. 1.00

03:11:09.000 With a string covering your hairy asshole. 1.00

03:11:12.000 It's just not appropriate. 1.00

03:11:13.000 It's not.

03:11:14.000 But it's just a joke.

03:11:15.000 So they banned that episode and they gave you a strike.

03:11:18.000 Well, that's what they said the time code was for.

03:11:20.000 I don't know if it's something else I said in the episode.

03:11:23.000 I don't know if it was that episode or another episode.

03:11:25.000 I was making fun of Justin Bieber.

03:11:28.000 So I don't know.

03:11:29.000 What did you say about Justin Bieber?

03:11:30.000 I said that I would love to be a fly on the wall at the Baldwin Thanksgiving dinner when he comes over to Stephen Baldwin's house.

03:11:39.000 And then I acted out Stephen.

03:11:41.000 Because Stephen Baldwin's like really right wing.

03:11:43.000 You know, it's real funny.

03:11:43.000 Super Christian.

03:11:44.000 Yeah, he's super Christian, super right-wing.

03:11:45.000 So I just had him calling, like, Justin Bieber, like, asking him, like, come on, man, you transition.

03:11:51.000 Like, you used to be a woman, you know?

03:11:52.000 Because he just kind of looks kind of feminine, and just the conversations they would have, like, you guys are coming from that cuck town, you know, Stephen Baldwin just talking about L.A., whether you got my daughter living over there, and, you know, cuck town, so what's going on?

03:12:05.000 So you're just joking around.

03:12:05.000 Joking around, and about Alec being there, and then Alec and Stephen going at it.

03:12:10.000 Like, that family's fun, because you follow Billy Baldwin, he's like...

03:12:14.000 Crazy woke.

03:12:15.000 Is he really?

03:12:16.000 Yeah, Billy Baldwin's like left wing, left wing.

03:12:18.000 And then Steven is like crazy right wing.

03:12:20.000 Wow.

03:12:21.000 And then you got Alec who's like pretends to be left wing.

03:12:24.000 So, and then you got Justin Bieber's now in that family.

03:12:27.000 It's just a funny family dinner.

03:12:29.000 They got you for that?

03:12:31.000 But all these things are just you commenting on stuff.

03:12:33.000 It's just comedy. 1.00

03:12:34.000 And talking shit. 1.00

03:12:35.000 Yeah, just talking shit. 1.00

03:12:36.000 This is a scary thing about YouTube is that you don't know what's gonna be the thing that triggers you getting a strike and you can only get three strikes and they'll remove your channel. 0.99

03:12:46.000 You don't.

03:12:46.000 And I was talking about all things that happen that are in reality.

03:12:49.000 And we're just joking.

03:12:51.000 It's just talk. 0.99

03:12:51.000 Just fucking around. 0.99

03:12:52.000 It's just fucking jokes. 1.00

03:12:53.000 Fucking shit. 1.00

03:12:53.000 Like, there's got to be a way to label your channels. 1.00

03:12:56.000 Like, this is comedy.

03:12:57.000 Look, if you don't like it, like, what's this thing?

03:12:59.000 Like, you don't like something, you get it banned.

03:13:01.000 Right.

03:13:01.000 What the hell is that?

03:13:02.000 Right. 1.00

03:13:03.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

03:13:04.000 Right. 1.00

03:13:05.000 Like, Putin?

03:13:06.000 Are you Putin?

03:13:07.000 But they think they're shaping culture.

03:13:09.000 That's what's interesting.

03:13:10.000 They think by denying...

03:13:11.000 Yeah, Putin thinks he's doing that too.

03:13:13.000 Denying certain things that they think are toxic.

03:13:16.000 Certain opinions they think are toxic.

03:13:17.000 Even toxic comedy.

03:13:18.000 Like, how can you speak on behalf of what other people like?

03:13:21.000 It's crazy.

03:13:22.000 Well, it's a problem with limiting free speech.

03:13:24.000 When you limit free speech, you make it subjective.

03:13:26.000 Like, what is acceptable and what's not?

03:13:28.000 And a lot of times it's based on what other people think people should do and say instead of what, you know, just allowing a person to be themselves.

03:13:36.000 Yeah, I mean, those are the tenets of fascism. 0.99

03:13:38.000 People like people talking shit about things. 0.99

03:13:40.000 Yes, people just talk and having fun. 0.99

03:13:41.000 And people have different tastes.

03:13:43.000 I mean, comedians are actually the only barometer that exists for you to know if you're free.

03:13:49.000 I mean, if comics weren't crossing the line, how would you know you're free?

03:13:53.000 You wouldn't.

03:13:53.000 That's the only real barometer out there that kind of lets you know that freedom is still happening.

03:13:59.000 Hear, hear.

03:14:00.000 Yeah.

03:14:01.000 Giannis Papas, ladies and gentlemen.

03:14:03.000 Bye, everybody.

03:14:04.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 31, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1799 - Yannis Pappas

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