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00:00:14.000I don't want to stop this subject real quick.
00:00:16.000Because when that happened, in the 90s, when they started fucking shooting each other and coming out with gangster rap, there had never been anything like that.
00:00:24.000Could you imagine if the Beach Boys, they fucking hated Elvis, they wanted to shoot him.
00:03:58.000Another thing that we get, for most guys, if you shower, you bathe regularly, and you basically change clothes, that's considered to take care of yourself.
00:12:22.000Where the badass thing happens and then you go in close, you push in on the badass face and he's like, ask your mother what she thinks or whatever the fuck he says.
00:12:31.000The Clint Eastwood Every Which Way But Loose movies were the first time that they really combined action and comedy together with a dude who wasn't a comedy guy.
00:18:09.000I think what happened was that's when he was boxing.
00:18:11.000And when he had a pretty intense segment of his life where he just boxed and he boxed professionally, he got his fucking brains rattled, dude.
00:19:26.000He was a regular dude, and head trauma transformed him.
00:19:30.000And I think that's also what happened to Mickey Rourke.
00:19:33.000He's a regular dude, and he got so crazy that he decided it would be a good idea to put plastic things inside his cheeks to make his cheeks bigger.
00:20:56.000It's the weirdest thing ever, that frozen, puffy face.
00:21:00.000You know, it's like they're injecting things into their face because when you get older, one of the first things that happens is your face starts to lose body fat.
00:21:07.000That's why you get, like, sort of sunk in, wrinkly.
00:21:56.000It fixes it temporarily, but all the other hair falls out of it.
00:21:59.000The way I describe it, I said it's like you're taking a bunch of healthy people and you're moving them to a neighborhood where everyone's dying.
00:22:06.000So they take hair from the back of your head, they move it to the top of your head, and then all its neighbors just fucking wilt.
00:22:12.000Callan has the exact same thing he was talking about on the podcast.
00:22:17.000And he was saying that they can pretty much get rid of a lot of the scar nowadays.
00:23:33.000They would wear their clothes and they would have this giant thing that they would throw over them like a blanket that you run out of the house with.
00:23:39.000If you wear a cape now, you better be able to back it up with some real shit.
00:23:55.000You gotta be a bad motherfucker for real.
00:23:57.000When you walk away, you're like, yeah, that dude's pretty cool.
00:23:59.000I'll take capes over that stupid shit that I saw today at the store where this guy, grown guy, probably our age, had a fucking wallet chain, but on it it had stuffed animals.
00:24:09.000I think there were different kinds of Pokemon.
00:24:11.000And then he had a fucking raccoon tail.
00:25:17.000That's one thing that's crazy about our country.
00:25:20.000Our country and our culture is so engrossed in lawsuits and it operates on them and the fear of them that that actually makes things way safer.
00:25:28.000You think about it, there's countries, not necessarily Mexico, but there's countries in the world where that is never an issue.
00:26:38.000Apparently, it's the first such claim to ever reach French court.
00:26:41.000And Monsanto, apparently they have some fucking pesticide.
00:26:45.000There's another thing they found out that in 93% of pregnant women that they tested, they found this pesticide that exists in Monsanto genetically modified crops.
00:28:13.000In India, there's a whole bang fucking giant group of farmers that have been killing themselves because they get indebted to Monsanto and they can't afford to pay their bills.
00:28:27.000They will shut you down if you don't play ball.
00:28:30.000Yeah, well this is crazy because you've got to think about how much political pull that they have and the fact that they still lost in court.
00:28:51.000What we don't need is a bunch of fucking crazy shit where companies come along And genetically modify crops, and then they take those crops, and then they sell them to people with no evidence whatsoever about the long-term implications of the exposure to some of these chemicals.
00:29:07.000And what is this going to do to the environment?
00:29:22.000Yeah, that people are going to be in their system.
00:29:24.000There's not that much evidence or not that much history of genetically modified foods.
00:29:31.000I mean, we need like 10, 20, 30 years to really analyze what the fuck it does, the environment, the people, and what's the chain reaction, you know?
00:29:38.000What does the wings of the butterfly do from the modified food to, you know, how does it affect the ecosystem that all of a sudden it takes over?
00:29:51.000It's like, you know, I talked to this dude, he was talking about, I was just listening to the Opie and Anthony show, and what's his face was on?
00:30:00.000Nicolas Cage, and he was talking about the black rhino going extinct this year.
00:30:05.000And I was telling him to do this, and he was like, well, we could just bring it back, you know, if we would just fucking bring back the black rhino.
00:32:08.000and then people would just start talking.
00:32:10.000They were like, well, it was bright silver, and it was spinning over the hemisphere, and what happened was, and they would just give completely detailed accounts.
00:32:20.000It's like at this point, people have been so poisoned by pop culture and by the idea of UFOs.
00:32:44.000Not only did they lie, they lied and were willing to sign a waiver saying that they lied and that we were going to show it on TV. It was nuts.
00:32:53.000People love to lie about stories because they love to be the one to report.
00:32:58.000There's a fascination with, like, you want to know what happened?
00:34:10.000I mean, you could recall data and information, but how much of that memory can you really pull out?
00:34:13.000I remember making up a story as a kid.
00:34:16.000I remember making up a story as a kid and spinning it to people to the point where I would just tell people in detail for years, from fifth grade on.
00:34:26.000And then one day I was like, I made this shit up.
00:35:18.000I made it up because I made it up for that feeling, but when you first discover the feeling, when you're 10 years old and you tell someone some wild shit and they go, what?
00:35:27.000You're like, oh, that feels kind of good.
00:35:29.000And so it was like a 10-year-old version of that that I told when I was 10, 11, 12, and then finally when I'm like 14, 15, I was like, I don't think I saw this actually.
00:36:55.000The crime that we all know that's so crazy.
00:36:58.000He beat that charge and went back for some dumb shit some dumb beyond dumb shit memorabilia taking his memorabilia back with a station was that what it was the pal station station man First on the UFC.
00:37:11.000Oh really does what my that was my first Las Vegas game Really you played the pal station pal station Wow, that's locals, right?
00:40:43.000They have a huge tank filled with sharks, and they have these cool-ass jellyfish, and the jellyfish are all under these psychedelic neon lights, and they're floating around.
00:42:45.000Judge Napolitano, he had a show on Fox Business where he would really be super honest about stuff and really have an astute breakdown of how our political system really functions and how the American public has been lied to from the he had a show on Fox Business where he would really And the way he did it is by posing a bunch of questions.
00:43:37.000...process that validates an establishment that never meaningfully changes.
00:43:41.000What if that establishment doesn't want and doesn't have the consent of the governed?
00:43:45.000What if the two-party system was actually a mechanism used to limit so-called public opinion?
00:43:51.000What if there were more than two sides to every issue, but the two parties wanted to box you into a corner, one of their corners?
00:43:58.000What if there's no such thing as public opinion, because every thinking person has opinions that are uniquely his own?
00:44:05.000What if what we call public opinion was just a manufactured narrative that makes it easier to convince people that if their views are different, then there's something wrong with that or there's something wrong with them?
00:44:17.000What if the whole purpose of the Democratic and Republican parties was not to expand voters' choices, but to limit them?
00:44:24.000What if the widely perceived differences between the two parties was just an illusion?
00:44:29.000What if the heart of the government policy remains the same no matter who's in the White House?
00:44:33.000What if the heart of government policy remains the same no matter what the people want?
00:44:38.000What if those vaunted differences between Democrat and Republican were actually just minor disagreements?
00:44:44.000What if both parties just want power and are willing to have young people fight meaningless wars in order to enhance that power?
00:44:52.000What if both parties continue to fight the war on drugs just to give bureaucrats and cops bigger budgets and more jobs?
00:45:00.000What if government policies didn't change when government leaders did?
00:45:04.000What if no matter who won an election, government stayed the same?
00:45:08.000What if government was really a revolving door for political hacks, bent on exploiting the people once they're in charge?
00:45:16.000What if both parties supported welfare, war, debt, bailouts and big government?
00:45:20.000What if the rhetoric that candidates displayed on the campaign trail was dumped after electoral victory?
00:45:26.000What if Barack Obama campaigned as an anti-war, pro-civil liberties candidate and then waged senseless wars while assaulting your rights that the Constitution is supposed to protect?
00:45:37.000What if George W. Bush campaigned on a platform of non-intervention and small government, and then waged a foreign policy of muscular military intervention and a domestic policy of vast government borrowing and growth?
00:45:50.000What if Bill Clinton declared that the era of big government was over, but actually just convinced Republicans like Newt Gingrich that they can get what they want out of big government too?
00:46:02.000What if the Republicans went along with it?
00:46:04.000What if Ronald Reagan spent six years running for president, promising to shrink the government, but then the government grew while he was in the White House?
00:46:13.000What if, notwithstanding Reagan's ideas and cheerfulness and libertarian rhetoric, there really was no Reagan revolution at all?
00:46:23.000What if Rick Santorum is being embraced by voters who want small government, even though Senator Santorum voted for the Patriot Act, for an expansion of Medicare, and for raising the debt ceiling by trillions of dollars?
00:46:35.000What if Mitt Romney is being embraced by voters who want anyone but Barack Obama, but they don't realize that Mitt Romney might as well be Barack Obama on everything from warfare to welfare?
00:46:47.000What if Ron Paul is being ignored by the media, not because, as it claims, he's unappealing or unelectable, but because he doesn't fit into the pre-manufactured public opinion mold used by the establishment to pigeonhole the electorate and create the so-called narrative that drives media coverage of elections?
00:47:07.000What if the biggest difference between most candidates was not substance, but style?
00:47:11.000What if those stylistic differences were packaged as substantive ones to reinforce the illusion of a difference between Democrats and Republicans?
00:47:20.000What if Mitt Romney wins and ends up continuing most of the same policies that Barack Obama promoted?
00:47:27.000What if Barack Obama's policies too are merely extensions of those from George W. Bush?
00:47:33.000What if a government that manipulated us could be fired?
00:47:37.000What if a government that lacked the true and knowing consent of the governed could be dismissed?
00:49:22.000Because otherwise it's a dictatorship.
00:49:24.000You know, at a certain point in time when you're really not doing the will of the people at all, and you really are suppressing the people, and you really are taking away liberties, you're really trying to turn us into a fucking crazy dictatorship.
00:49:41.000Well, just after you turn a certain age, I feel like it all, I really do feel like it all doesn't matter, whoever you vote for, that nothing is really going to be different.
00:49:52.000You start hearing that when the speeches start coming about, it's time to change Hollywood.
00:49:58.000I'm a Washington outsider, and I'm about to go in there.
00:50:11.000If Obama wanted to say some really radical things, he could have already said it.
00:50:14.000And you know, Chris Rock really did this really fascinating interview recently where he said that he thinks that Obama's going to wait until his second term, and then he's going to do some crazy shit.
00:50:31.000That National Defense Authorization Act that treats the United States like a battlefield and allows indefinite suspension or detention of American civilians with no warrant?
00:52:28.000We've talked about it too many times on the podcast to rehash it, but it was one of the most glorious things I've ever seen.
00:52:32.000Have you ever been the type of person that when you drive around and you see a hot chick, you'll wink at them or give them kissy faces or anything?
00:53:44.000I remember when I was in an apartment in Hollywood when I was like 21, 22, and had some friends come out, and one of the guys was that guy who just can't stop.
00:53:56.000So when I went to bed, I had my bedroom, we had like three friends in the living room and one girl.
00:58:00.000Let's not say his name on the air, because that might be a bit unethical.
00:58:03.000No, but when we were in the waiting room, I just paid and everything like that, and I'm about to walk out, and he goes, well, it's good seeing you, Brian.
01:01:28.000It tastes like you're eating a healthy animal.
01:01:32.000There's some steaks I've had where I'm like, oh man, you can feel your body kind of slowing down.
01:01:38.000Grass-fed beef, though, is supposed to be way healthier for you, too.
01:01:42.000It's something about the actual animal being healthy.
01:01:45.000I know a lot of fighters have switched to grass-fed meat recently.
01:01:49.000My buddy Einstein, who listens to this all the time, is one of Eddie's black belts, said his performance really started increasing when he upped his greens and unchanged to all grass-fed meat.
01:05:02.000And then we thought about it, and Doug and I were like, we should do it at a garbage shop.
01:05:06.000And I was like, well, you think about it, man.
01:05:08.000I wanted to do it in a garbage dump in New Jersey.
01:05:10.000I wanted to do it in the stinkiest, grossest dump.
01:05:12.000I said, you know, if you're at home and you're watching us, these two assholes, hang out with girls who never fuck you in a place where you can never afford to go to, well, how's that fun for you?
01:05:24.000I go, it would be much more fun for you to watch us in a dump.
01:05:39.000Well, you know, I don't blame them, man.
01:05:42.000That culture, the hot chick culture of asking for things, and they would rub the writers' shoulders, and You're going to put us in a scene?
01:07:43.000How cool would it be, for real, if we all, we got everyone that we know that's cool, and we decided we're all going to invest in some property and build houses there.
01:07:51.000Yeah, and all your friends live in the neighborhood.
01:10:17.000And you're going to be doing it at the Comedy Works in Denver, which is one of the greatest clubs in the history of the fucking moon universe.
01:11:36.000You know, Tom and I met a long time ago when I was doing the Maxim tour with Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.
01:11:41.000And what we'd do is we'd go to these different places and they would have like a local guy open up for us.
01:11:45.000Everyone that opened up for us was really funny.
01:11:47.000It was really good like local talent because it was the Maxim Bud Light comedy tour and they really did a good job of casting the local guys.
01:11:54.000But when we did Phoenix, Tommy wasn't even local, just somehow or another he got involved in this.
01:11:59.000And he was one of those guys where he went up and I went, holy shit, I go, this guy is fucking funny.
01:12:05.000And it was dark and it was really well written and We became besties.
01:12:55.000She has an open mic program that's better than anybody's in the country or anybody's I've ever been involved with ever in my whole time in comedy.
01:13:02.000When you do Comedy Works, you'll work with different people through the weekend, right?
01:16:36.000Paul Sims, the executive producer, was such an interesting and intelligent guy, and his sensibilities were so out there.
01:16:42.000I knew that after working with him, it was going to be really hard to do another sort of sitcom, a real mainstream, even if it's a successful one.
01:17:53.000Yeah, I mean, a lot of times it's who's the production company and what kind of pull they have with the network and where they decide to put the show.
01:17:59.000But I would definitely do another acting gig.
01:18:02.000I really enjoyed doing that movie with Kevin James, the Zookeeper movie.
01:18:07.000But it was mostly fun because Kevin and I have been friends since we were really young and to do a movie, even though it was a silly kids movie.
01:18:20.000I'm acting with a girl from Talladega Nights.
01:18:21.000and I hadn't done any acting in fucking 10 years yeah so it was weird that was fun I I would totally do something like that.
01:18:28.000I would totally do a sitcom or something fun acting again, but for the most part, one of the weirdest things about being a comic is that everybody wants to put you into some acting situation where you're going to do something that's not nearly as funny as your act.
01:20:00.000He got off track with his life and had a lot of hard times.
01:20:03.000We had him on the podcast once talk about it.
01:20:05.000It's a fascinating, fascinating story of caution, a cautionary tale of what could happen if you're involved in a terrible relationship and it goes wrong and you have a spiteful ex-wife.
01:24:20.000It says the Golden Globe-nominated actress who struggled with drug addiction went broke after 1993 to 1998 sitcom ended its run on ABC. Oh my god, she looks crazy.
01:24:32.000Brett Butler, two Ts, one T in Butler.
01:24:39.000A Golden Globe nominee for a role in the 1993-1998 comedy series struggled with substance abuse while starring on the show, which was in the top ten for two seasons.
01:24:49.000The Chuck Lorre created show was canceled in 1998 after she was asked to leave the set because of her drug use.
01:25:00.000He also worked on one of the shows that I worked on, on news radio, and he said, you know, he said in her accent, you fuck your wife, same way you write.
01:26:06.000You just go up to your room right now and you don't come back down until you love your brother.
01:26:11.000Grace Under Fire was a working class sitcom done in the same vein as Roseanne and Mad About You now on DVD. It was produced by funny man Chuck Lorre, creator of Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory.
01:26:23.000It was filmed here on the same studio lot as E.T., At Stage 14, where Christina Applegate's Up All Night is now.
01:26:31.000You said you hope you've been forgiven.
01:26:32.000What would you hope you've been forgiven for?
01:26:34.000Making someone's day miserable over the choice of a word in a 22-minute show.
01:26:40.000A lot of the times, I've been an ass and didn't even think I was.
01:26:43.000Like, I'd call my managers and go, there's a white limo out here for an award show.
01:26:47.000And they'd say, oh my god, don't get in it.
01:26:49.000And he should have said, you ungrateful cracker, go get in the car and go to the show, they'll drop you.
01:26:57.000Some people have weird things like that.
01:26:59.000All these Great White Hope rehabs, the one in Malibu I call muffins, where they have a sous chef and collage class, and I'm going, you're kidding.
01:27:08.000And, you know, some won't give you sugar and coffee and they give you drugs and other ones.
01:27:15.00030,000 bucks a month and you're lucky when you don't die.
01:27:20.000People used to come up and say, I, too, am a survivor of so-and-so and I want to go, look, if you don't wear the t-shirt, you'll have more fun.
01:27:27.000She left Hollywood for a farm in Georgia where she lived with her 15 pets.
01:27:32.000But then the money ran out and one of Hollywood's biggest stars had to live in a homeless shelter.
01:27:37.000Now Brad is making a comeback returning to stand-up this weekend in LA's downtown comedy club.
01:27:43.000I just want to make a comeback to be Nancy Grace's worst nightmare.
01:28:35.000Do you remember the first time you ever bought drugs?
01:28:36.000No, but you told me that you had a story.
01:28:39.000The first time I ever bought drugs I was in high school, and I went to a small high school, so I was trying to not make a thing to ask about it at first, because you don't want it to get around.
01:29:55.000Thinking, like, that's where it goes down.
01:29:57.000And Steve's like, yo, this is White Pete.
01:30:00.000And I was like, what's up, White Pete?
01:30:02.000And he was called White Pete because they needed to give him a distinction for his name because he was the only white guy that ran with his crew, right?
01:30:10.000And he was like, we didn't have driver's licenses.
01:30:14.000So he was like exactly at that moment what we wanted to be in a couple years.
01:30:19.000Like he had like the whole unit, like the oversized white tee and like, you know, gold chain.
01:35:38.000Pat Pass scared the shit out of me the first time.
01:35:40.000But that second time, he saved our life, actually.
01:35:42.000Because we went, from his trailer the second time, where he jumped in the back, we went to Avenue D, which is the fucking shitty street in Fort Pierce.
01:38:54.000When I left, I went to Newton, which is like nice suburbs, and I lived across the street from a river, and there was like woods near me and shit like that.
01:39:02.000And they went to the inner city high school, and they had some fucking tough times, man.
01:39:14.000Inner city shit is just no fun at all.
01:39:18.000I got lucky that my parents moved to a nicer place.
01:39:23.000We would go to these places late at night when I was hanging out with them.
01:39:28.000We'd hang out with some of their friends.
01:39:30.000We'd go to Dorchester at 2 o'clock in the morning to eat.
01:39:33.000First of all, I couldn't believe who the fuck let me wander around at 14 years old.
01:39:36.000but we were in some place where there was bulletproof glass they would sell you food but it was through bulletproof glass it was sandwiches and there was like a slot where you would slide the food under and it was like the worst fucking neighborhood you could possibly be in outside of Beirut we're hanging out there and some guy goes I told you I'd pay for this shit motherfucker like decides I already paid for this shit And they're like, let him go, let him go, let him go.
01:40:22.000People don't know how bad some neighborhoods are in Hollywood.
01:40:27.000Sunset between Fairfax and Crescent Heights used to be a trap.
01:40:32.000I remember I worked at a restaurant there, and one night, man, two weekends in a row, first weekend someone got shot in the head on the steps into Denny's, which was like a block.
01:40:43.000And then the next weekend, somebody came in, went into the kitchen, took scissors, Start stabbing people with scissors and stabbing themselves.
01:40:51.000But it was also like a criminal hangout because of Denny's.
01:42:27.000And you gotta go down and support Tommy when he is taping his new CD. That will be in Denver at the Comedy Works South on February 24th and 25th.
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