The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1915 - Brian Simpson

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!

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00:00:12.000 Oh, cheers!

00:00:15.000 Thank you, man.

00:00:16.000 My pleasure.

00:00:20.000 Okay, first of all, Joe, did you see the guy yesterday, his debut MMA match?

00:00:27.000 He won, by the way.

00:00:28.000 He has no lower body.

00:00:30.000 Yes, Zion.

00:00:31.000 Zion. 0.76

00:00:32.000 Yeah, dude.

00:00:34.000 Incredible.

00:00:34.000 It was unbelievable.

00:00:36.000 How fast he closes the distance with no legs.

00:00:39.000 And so what my question is, are you...

00:00:43.000 Zion Clark.

00:00:46.000 Amazing.

00:00:47.000 Is he considered a downed opponent?

00:00:50.000 That's a good question.

00:00:51.000 Because that...

00:00:52.000 Changes the game.

00:00:55.000 That makes him OP. Because you can't kick him.

00:00:57.000 You can kick him in the body. 0.99

00:00:59.000 You can kick a downed opponent in the body. 0.98

00:01:02.000 I mean, you think a leg kick is bad?

00:01:04.000 Imagine an arm kick.

00:01:05.000 And then imagine, like, you can't grab his legs, you can't...

00:01:08.000 Yeah.

00:01:10.000 And also, his upper body's insanely strong for someone of that weight class.

00:01:15.000 So you have to think, like...

00:01:17.000 First of all, nothing but props for the guy.

00:01:20.000 No excuses.

00:01:20.000 The guy's amazing.

00:01:21.000 And just the fucking amount of courage that it takes to even train and become an elite wrestler and then become an MMA fighter all with no legs. 0.99

00:01:30.000 Incredible. 0.99

00:01:30.000 Yeah, that's insane. 0.99

00:01:32.000 No one's saying there's an advantage.

00:01:34.000 But one thing that he's able to do...

00:01:37.000 I mean, you don't have legs to control.

00:01:40.000 So, like, your game is different.

00:01:43.000 In the stand-up game, you know, punches, like, if you're punching a guy that's down like that and literally is at the hips, like, you have to, like, bend your knees down and try to punch him, like, to train for that guy.

00:01:57.000 How do you train for that?

00:01:58.000 All your power comes from your legs.

00:02:00.000 So if you can't push off when you punch, you can't really load up and, you know? 0.99

00:02:05.000 And if you light kick that guy in his arm and break his arm, that's fucked up. 0.98

00:02:10.000 Because now he can't even get around. 0.99

00:02:12.000 He's probably so...

00:02:13.000 Because here's the thing.

00:02:13.000 You know that old quote about, like, don't argue with a...

00:02:16.000 Don't argue with a fool because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. 0.99

00:02:20.000 Right. 1.00

00:02:20.000 It's like that. 1.00

00:02:21.000 It's like, he has way more experience down there than you do, and you've got to get down there.

00:02:25.000 Look how fast he can move just on his arms.

00:02:27.000 That's insane.

00:02:28.000 Boy, that's terrifying.

00:02:30.000 33-inch vertical jump.

00:02:32.000 That's incredible.

00:02:33.000 Whatever that means.

00:02:35.000 Have you ever seen that woman who was born with no legs and she does everything with her feet? 1.00

00:02:38.000 She puts her lipstick on with her feet.

00:02:40.000 She eats with her feet.

00:02:42.000 She writes her name with her feet.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:02:46.000 She has dexterity with her feet like people have with their hands. 0.97

00:02:49.000 Which makes you think, like, I wonder if that's like a skill that we all could acquire.

00:02:54.000 We just don't because we don't use our legs for that.

00:02:57.000 Because, like, there's certain things that people could do with their hands, right?

00:02:59.000 Like, have you ever seen a guy who's really good at boxing?

00:03:01.000 They can...

00:03:03.000 Have you done any boxing?

00:03:05.000 A little bit, yeah.

00:03:06.000 One of the things that's really awkward to learn is a left hook.

00:03:08.000 It feels very weird.

00:03:09.000 It does, yeah.

00:03:10.000 And you're standing like this and you've got to do that.

00:03:11.000 It feels very weird to learn how to do that properly.

00:03:14.000 It's a very odd movement.

00:03:16.000 And people are all like...

00:03:18.000 But eventually it gets to the point where it's natural.

00:03:21.000 Like in a fight it just comes out.

00:03:23.000 Like you train it.

00:03:24.000 So there's all these hidden abilities that our bodies have.

00:03:27.000 We just don't ever use them in that way.

00:03:30.000 I think, you know, necessity is necessary.

00:03:33.000 Like, the fact that you have no choice, that is the number one motivator. 0.99

00:03:38.000 It's like, if I don't learn how to do this shit with my feet, I'm never going to do shit. 0.99

00:03:42.000 Right. 1.00

00:03:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:43.000 I admire that kind of shit. 1.00

00:03:45.000 And your nervous system, the way you learn things is by repetitive, you know, motion. 1.00

00:03:50.000 Like, you do it overnight.

00:03:52.000 That's why, like, when you tie your shoes, you don't even think about it.

00:03:55.000 You just...

00:03:55.000 Eddie Bravo used to always use that as an example about jujitsu, that you've got to train it to the point where it's automatic, like tying your shoes.

00:04:03.000 Because when you tie your shoes, you're not thinking, okay, I make this loop, and I wrap it around that loop, and I go under, and I do that.

00:04:09.000 You don't think that.

00:04:10.000 You just...

00:04:11.000 And he's like, jiu-jitsu has to become like that, too.

00:04:14.000 I knew some kind of rhyme when I was a kid at first.

00:04:17.000 You know how they teach you? 0.98

00:04:18.000 Or some shit, like, you know, this is a bunny rabbit and over the bridge. 0.99

00:04:23.000 But now I don't think about it at all. 0.99

00:04:25.000 Yeah, you don't think about it at all.

00:04:27.000 Well, that eventually happens, I think, with everything that you do.

00:04:30.000 You just got to do it so much, because you tie your shoes every day.

00:04:33.000 Get up, tie your shoes.

00:04:34.000 You know, take your shoes off, put them back on, tie them on.

00:04:37.000 That's why I... Because on my podcast, BS with Brian Simpson, check it out.

00:04:41.000 It's a very good podcast.

00:04:42.000 YouTube, all platforms, BS with Brian Simpson.

00:04:45.000 On mine, all the time I get emails about people go, how do I do stand-up comedy?

00:04:53.000 You get those questions all the time.

00:04:55.000 And I remember when I first started, I would get so frustrated because the veterans would always be like, well, just keep doing it. 0.99

00:05:01.000 And it felt like a bullshit answer. 0.98

00:05:03.000 But it is the answer. 0.98

00:05:05.000 It's the right answer.

00:05:06.000 It's the right answer.

00:05:07.000 You just gotta do it.

00:05:07.000 But you also have to pay attention to what you're doing.

00:05:10.000 I think if we all go back and watch our old tapes...

00:05:14.000 Oh, I can't do it.

00:05:14.000 Yeah, it's horrible.

00:05:15.000 You would go like, oh my god, I would never do that that way now.

00:05:18.000 Especially the...

00:05:18.000 So I remember when I first started to get good.

00:05:23.000 How many years was that in?

00:05:26.000 Probably like two, two and a half years.

00:05:30.000 So we felt like comfortable on stage.

00:05:31.000 Right, when I felt comfortable, when my reputation in the scene was like he's one of the best, right?

00:05:36.000 And I remember this guy did a show at the club.

00:05:43.000 He booked the club for the whole night.

00:05:45.000 I was working the door at this club.

00:05:48.000 And he decided to come out.

00:05:51.000 He booked three other comics, too.

00:05:53.000 He decided to come out after each comic in a different costume, as a different character, and do stand-up as a different person.

00:06:00.000 And he'd never done stand-up.

00:06:02.000 Like, he was not a stand-up.

00:06:04.000 I might have seen him at, like, one open mic or something, and then he decided to put on this whole big show.

00:06:08.000 He was, like, a model or something.

00:06:09.000 So he just had, like, a grand idea. 1.00

00:06:11.000 And I watched this motherfucker bomb. 1.00

00:06:16.000 In front of his friends. 1.00

00:06:17.000 The club was all people he brought.

00:06:19.000 I watched him bomb three times on the same show, and it was painful.

00:06:26.000 I think I went up after the first character, and I had the best set of my life.

00:06:35.000 He recorded the whole thing.

00:06:37.000 He had triple cameras set up and everything.

00:06:40.000 And I remember hitting him up the next day like, hey man, you think I could get that tape?

00:06:45.000 And he was like, I can't watch it right now, but I'll get it to you as soon as...

00:06:52.000 Because I felt him.

00:06:53.000 His heart was ripped out of his chest.

00:06:55.000 By the time he went up the third time, he was already broken.

00:06:59.000 This was his first time on stage?

00:07:00.000 It was not his first time on stage, but it was like he'd done maybe two open mics and then put on his show for all his friends and family.

00:07:08.000 And...

00:07:08.000 And I'd forgotten about it.

00:07:10.000 I ain't here from the guy for like six months.

00:07:13.000 And one day I come into work and somebody's like, hey man, somebody dropped this off for you.

00:07:16.000 And it was a DVD with that set on it.

00:07:18.000 That I was like, that was the best set I ever had.

00:07:20.000 I can't wait to watch this.

00:07:21.000 And I get home and I pop it in the computer.

00:07:23.000 And it was so bad.

00:07:27.000 And that's when I realized, like, oh no, like, the lessons you would have learned from that, you've already learned now in these six months.

00:07:35.000 Like, you needed to watch that the next day or within a week or something to get there, right?

00:07:40.000 You figured it out.

00:07:42.000 It's funny in the beginning because you're working with open micers, too.

00:07:45.000 So, like, I remember when I got my first gig, when I got a paid gig.

00:07:50.000 I realized, oh, there's a giant difference between an audience that's there to see a comedy show versus an audience that goes to an open mic night.

00:07:58.000 They're there to see pros.

00:07:59.000 And I wasn't really a pro.

00:08:01.000 I was just doing open mic nights. 0.99

00:08:04.000 I sucked. 0.96

00:08:06.000 And when you're working with people that are terrible, I mean, they're so bad they'll never be good. 1.00

00:08:12.000 Whatever the fuck it is that makes a person funny, they are void of that. 0.98

00:08:16.000 We know those guys, right? 0.99

00:08:18.000 Those girls, those non-binary folks. 0.99

00:08:20.000 When you learn, like, how to do it, like, comedy is one of those things.

00:08:25.000 It's just...

00:08:26.000 Everyone's got to figure out their own little weird path, you know?

00:08:30.000 And we're all doing that for the first time and you're trying to imitate people and you're... 0.99

00:08:34.000 So everybody sucks. 1.00

00:08:35.000 So if you go up and get a few laughs, you think you're the shit. 1.00

00:08:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:08:39.000 And then you do a working show where you work with like real pros and you realize how terrible you are. 1.00

00:08:46.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 Well, that's why places like the store were important because it was like...

00:08:51.000 Yeah, you're the shit in fucking Des Moines. 1.00

00:08:54.000 Yes. 1.00

00:08:55.000 And then you go to LA and you go to the store and every night you see people that are light years beyond you.

00:09:04.000 And you need that.

00:09:05.000 You need to see that.

00:09:06.000 Yeah, because so many people, they're comfortable being king of the hill because they're scared to climb the mountain.

00:09:11.000 One of the things that Mitzi used to do at the store is if she thought you were any good, she'd put you on after the best people. 0.85

00:09:17.000 Oh, God.

00:09:18.000 You just died. 0.98

00:09:19.000 You died.

00:09:20.000 I had to go on after Richard Pryor five weeks in a row.

00:09:23.000 Every time Richard Pryor did a set, I went on after him.

00:09:26.000 But you know what though?

00:09:27.000 The best people, that doesn't scare them.

00:09:30.000 Scared the shit out of me.

00:09:31.000 Did it?

00:09:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:32.000 But it wasn't part of you that was looking forward to the challenge?

00:09:36.000 Uh, no.

00:09:37.000 I was terrified.

00:09:38.000 You know who terrified me the most?

00:09:40.000 Martin Lawrence.

00:09:41.000 Oh.

00:09:41.000 Dude, I've talked about this before, and I'm sorry if you've heard the story, but Martin Lawrence during the You So Crazy days in the 90s, I was just getting to LA, so I was like 94, just getting to LA. Little cute, fresh-faced Joe Rogan, and I was terrible.

00:09:57.000 You know, just clunky.

00:09:59.000 I'd get a few laughs.

00:10:00.000 I had a couple of good bits, but then I'd fuck something up.

00:10:04.000 So I had some potential, and I was working at it.

00:10:07.000 And I just went on after murders. 0.97

00:10:10.000 And when Martin Lawrence would kill, but people forgot how goddamn good Martin Lawrence was back then. 0.96

00:10:16.000 I hear that from everyone, man. 0.97

00:10:18.000 People forgot.

00:10:18.000 If you go back and watch some of his specials and hear the laughs, it's always hard to watch a special from the 90s.

00:10:25.000 Because for some reason, comedy doesn't hold up that good.

00:10:29.000 It holds up for Pryor.

00:10:31.000 It holds up for Kinison.

00:10:33.000 It holds up for the greats of the greats.

00:10:36.000 But if you watch some of the really good specials from the 1990s, there's something about them.

00:10:43.000 The style's dated.

00:10:45.000 Something's different.

00:10:46.000 I think it's just that some comedy is about...

00:10:51.000 The big picture, like just humanity, and some comedy is about the times.

00:10:55.000 Right.

00:10:55.000 And the comedy is specifically about the times.

00:10:58.000 Unless things are the same, it doesn't hold up because the culture is so different, you know?

00:11:04.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:11:05.000 I mean, culture shifts so radically.

00:11:07.000 You know who I always fucking dreaded following? 0.57

00:11:10.000 Who? 1.00

00:11:11.000 Fucking Joey Diaz. 1.00

00:11:12.000 Oh, he was the monster. 1.00

00:11:13.000 Joey Diaz.

00:11:13.000 That's why I started taking him on the road with me.

00:11:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:16.000 Because I have a bomb going on after him.

00:11:17.000 I was like, oh, good.

00:11:18.000 I'm going to take him on the road to me.

00:11:19.000 It'll force me to get better.

00:11:20.000 Rick Ingram.

00:11:21.000 A lot of people won't admit this, but everyone hated following Rick Ingram.

00:11:24.000 Oh, because Rick Ingram would work the crowd.

00:11:25.000 He worked the crowd, but just so masterfully.

00:11:28.000 Masterfully.

00:11:29.000 The crowd would be mad that he was gone and that you were there instead.

00:11:33.000 Also, they wanted to talk.

00:11:35.000 Yeah.

00:11:36.000 When Rick's up, he'll talk to you.

00:11:38.000 He wants you to talk back. 1.00

00:11:39.000 He wants to fuck around with you and have a conversation with you. 1.00

00:11:42.000 But I was like, yo, I want to go after him every time. 1.00

00:11:46.000 If we're on the same one...

00:11:47.000 That's great. 0.87

00:11:48.000 Yeah, because I would bomb after him all the time.

00:11:51.000 And I was like, until I figure out how to not bomb after him, I'm missing something.

00:11:55.000 You gotta cut all the fat out.

00:11:57.000 That's what I realized.

00:11:58.000 You gotta cut to the point.

00:11:59.000 Don't be self-indulgent.

00:12:01.000 Pay attention to yourself like you're a hater. 1.00

00:12:03.000 Cut that shit out. 1.00

00:12:04.000 Make it quicker. 1.00

00:12:05.000 Get to the funny.

00:12:06.000 Cut all the stuff that's like C material.

00:12:09.000 Cut it out.

00:12:10.000 I look at my act like I'm getting ready for a bodybuilding thing. 0.99

00:12:15.000 I just blowed it full of every fucking possible idea I could possibly have. 0.97

00:12:19.000 The bulking phase. 0.99

00:12:21.000 That's a good way to think about it.

00:12:23.000 The bulking phase.

00:12:24.000 Because it is like the bulking phase. 0.99

00:12:25.000 I'm in the bulking phase right now because I'm writing all this new shit. 1.00

00:12:30.000 That's my favorite part about the whole shit. 1.00

00:12:32.000 It's like watching a kid grow up. 1.00

00:12:33.000 It's exciting.

00:12:34.000 Wait until I figure it out.

00:12:36.000 By the way, I think I figured out that one bit.

00:12:38.000 Oh, beautiful.

00:12:39.000 We'll see.

00:12:39.000 Good.

00:12:40.000 See you tonight.

00:12:40.000 Yeah.

00:12:41.000 Those days, though, of like bombing after—I bombed after Dice a bunch of times.

00:12:46.000 I bombed after Damon Wayans.

00:12:51.000 I bombed after everybody.

00:12:53.000 There's so many people that are so funny.

00:12:56.000 Oh my god, but back in the 90s, man, I couldn't believe I was on stage with them.

00:13:00.000 I remember sitting in the back, there's another one that people forgot about, Damon Wayans.

00:13:05.000 Damon Wayans, he had this special called The Last Stand.

00:13:09.000 Go watch that special. 0.99

00:13:10.000 It's fucking sensational. 0.99

00:13:12.000 And again, you gotta watch it like it's whenever that special was made. 0.99

00:13:16.000 I don't know what year that was. 0.80

00:13:17.000 But dude, he was a monster.

00:13:20.000 He just decided to do television. 1.00

00:13:22.000 He just decided he made a lot of money doing those fucking TV shows. 0.99

00:13:26.000 I think he's coming back, though. 0.99

00:13:28.000 God, I hope so.

00:13:29.000 I know he still does stand-up. 0.98

00:13:30.000 And do you know that he records every fucking show that he's ever done on video? 0.98

00:13:34.000 He brings a tripod and a video camera. 0.99

00:13:36.000 He sits in the back of the room, he puts them all on his computer, and he watches them.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, I opened up for him in the belly room one time when he...

00:13:42.000 He decided to do a show.

00:13:45.000 He walks in with a camcorder like it's 95. And he's been doing that forever.

00:13:50.000 He's a pro.

00:13:52.000 He's a pro. 0.88

00:13:53.000 You know like those jazz saxophonists practice every day and they get their shit tight and they analyze it and go over it. 0.85

00:14:00.000 That's what he does with comedy. 0.82

00:14:02.000 I used to be that meticulous.

00:14:07.000 But it got to the point where it was It started to be easier for me and I got lazy.

00:14:13.000 You know what?

00:14:14.000 There's a thing that I think we should all implement.

00:14:16.000 You know how we do this Sober October thing?

00:14:18.000 Where this year we had to work out every day and burn 500 calories.

00:14:22.000 We should do that with writing.

00:14:24.000 Like, we all commit to writing.

00:14:27.000 Just make it reasonable.

00:14:28.000 Like, two hours every day.

00:14:30.000 Writing for two hours?

00:14:31.000 Writing for two hours every day.

00:14:32.000 That's reasonable.

00:14:33.000 Yeah, that is reasonable, yeah.

00:14:34.000 You know why?

00:14:34.000 Because once you start, you just keep going.

00:14:37.000 Like, the hard part about writing is sitting down in front of your computer.

00:14:40.000 That's what Steven Pressfield calls resistance, the resistance of doing it.

00:14:44.000 It's like your ego's fighting you and, you know, whatever it is.

00:14:49.000 Procrastination.

00:14:49.000 Like, there's times where I'm in front of my computer and I'm supposed to write and I just watch people play pool.

00:14:55.000 See, procrastination is interesting because...

00:14:59.000 I heard somebody recently say that procrastination is your inability to deal with the negative feelings around the task.

00:15:07.000 Because procrastination isn't you just not doing the important thing.

00:15:12.000 You're doing something unimportant instead.

00:15:15.000 You're doing something with no consequences.

00:15:17.000 You're scrolling TikTok.

00:15:18.000 You're playing video games.

00:15:20.000 You're doing something with no stakes.

00:15:22.000 Because the stakes make you uncomfortable.

00:15:24.000 Right.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, like the sit in front of the computer and not knowing where to go with anything.

00:15:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:30.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:15:31.000 See, I need to leave. 1.00

00:15:33.000 Because we have a...

00:15:35.000 Because, you know, I'm roommates with Hans and Hassan.

00:15:38.000 There's an extra room that kind of turned into a podcast studio.

00:15:43.000 But I have to leave.

00:15:45.000 I still record somewhere else because I have to leave.

00:15:48.000 To work.

00:15:49.000 Yeah.

00:15:49.000 I can't...

00:15:50.000 Having my computer in my room was the worst thing I've ever done.

00:15:53.000 In my bedroom.

00:15:54.000 Because you just sit in the bedroom then.

00:15:56.000 Yeah, because it's the place where I work and the place where I rest, they like blend.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:01.000 And it's like, I can't get things done that way.

00:16:04.000 I realized early on when I started doing my podcast, I had to take it out of my house.

00:16:08.000 I was like, I gotta take it out of here. 0.97

00:16:10.000 Plus, my daughters were really young and I was bringing crazy people over and pot was coming out of the fucking door and into the hallway like, Mommy, what's that smell? 0.99

00:16:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:19.000 And it's like, oh, I don't want motherfuckers knowing where I live. 0.99

00:16:21.000 There's that, too. 0.99

00:16:22.000 And then there's also, like, sometimes my kids would be screaming in the background.

00:16:25.000 It was fun, though.

00:16:25.000 Those old videos are kind of hilarious.

00:16:27.000 And nobody comes and taps you on the shoulder and goes, hey, you're too famous for this.

00:16:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:32.000 It just creeps up on you.

00:16:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:34.000 Yeah, I had a motherfucker. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Somebody dropped me off at my house the other day. 1.00

00:16:38.000 I Ubered.

00:16:39.000 And the whole ride, this dude was asking me questions as though he didn't know who I was.

00:16:45.000 Ugh.

00:16:46.000 He got you.

00:16:46.000 And then drops me off at my house and goes, hey man, I'm going to be honest.

00:16:49.000 I'm a big fan.

00:16:52.000 I didn't know you live here.

00:16:53.000 And it's like, aw, man. 1.00

00:16:55.000 Shit. 1.00

00:16:55.000 So now when I Uber home, I have to Uber up the street. 1.00

00:16:58.000 I Uber to the next block.

00:16:59.000 Oh, no.

00:17:01.000 Yeah.

00:17:01.000 Oh, no.

00:17:02.000 But it's just part of it.

00:17:04.000 I don't think I'm not big enough where somebody's going to do something crazy.

00:17:07.000 But it only takes one crazy.

00:17:09.000 It only takes one crazy. 0.97

00:17:10.000 Why don't you get a car? 0.77

00:17:11.000 I will, eventually.

00:17:12.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 It's easy to drive around here.

00:17:15.000 Yeah, I will.

00:17:16.000 I get the whole Uber thing, but I like driving myself.

00:17:19.000 I like being alone, thinking.

00:17:22.000 There's something about the movement of driving, too.

00:17:26.000 Especially if you're driving something where you have a manual transmission.

00:17:29.000 There's all this activity in your mind.

00:17:31.000 There's a lot of stuff going on.

00:17:32.000 They don't even do those anymore.

00:17:33.000 Oh, yeah, they do.

00:17:34.000 Yeah?

00:17:35.000 Yeah, you can get manuals.

00:17:36.000 They still sell the Mustang in a manual.

00:17:39.000 They sell Porsches in manual.

00:17:41.000 But the default's automatic.

00:17:43.000 Yes.

00:17:44.000 There's very few cars where you can only get a stick.

00:17:47.000 There's a few sports cars where you can only get a stick.

00:17:52.000 Like, custom-made stuff, and there's a few...

00:17:55.000 What?

00:17:56.000 Like, there's probably...

00:17:57.000 I think some of the Porsches.

00:17:59.000 There's like one or two Porsches.

00:18:01.000 Maybe it's the T. See if that's true, the 911T. They make purist cars.

00:18:06.000 Like, they did that...

00:18:06.000 They used to do that with the...

00:18:08.000 The GT3, it was like the Porsche R. It only came in a manual.

00:18:12.000 It was like this 500 horsepower, beautiful 911 that was like sedated looking because it looked almost like a right, it didn't have like a crazy wing like a GT3 RS. That's, yeah.

00:18:24.000 The unconnected car, internet connected cars makes it a case for unplugging.

00:18:29.000 How is it unconnected? 0.97

00:18:30.000 It doesn't have screens and shit and GPS, is that what it's saying? 0.99

00:18:34.000 Stripped down? 0.99

00:18:36.000 It has more, oh, the new 911T has more electronic equipment than the old one, including electronically adjustable dampers, active engine transmission.

00:18:45.000 Okay, that's just like electronics for the car itself, but the infotainment system is connected and able to receive over-the-air updates.

00:18:54.000 And linked to a smartphone app, but you can still turn the data sharing and refuse to use the app.

00:19:00.000 Even the UTA updates are limited to infotainment software, not vehicle controls.

00:19:06.000 For modern high-end vehicles, this is as close as you're going to get to an off-the-grid in a brand new car.

00:19:11.000 They're dope.

00:19:12.000 Go back to that image again.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, so that's a manual.

00:19:14.000 Yeah, but that's not as close as you can get off the grid. 1.00

00:19:16.000 Rip that shit out. 1.00

00:19:17.000 That's off the grid. 1.00

00:19:18.000 It still looks like it has Apple CarPlay.

00:19:21.000 Right.

00:19:21.000 Totally disconnected.

00:19:23.000 Yeah.

00:19:23.000 But if you get an old car, old cars, that's a real experience.

00:19:28.000 See, but I don't want that. 0.99

00:19:29.000 I want my shit loaded to the gills. 0.99

00:19:30.000 Give me every modern... 1.00

00:19:32.000 I'm a gadget guy. 0.99

00:19:33.000 I don't want a fucking old car. 0.99

00:19:34.000 No. 0.99

00:19:35.000 You would get annoyed if they didn't have Android Auto, right?

00:19:37.000 Some of them don't have Android Auto.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, some of them don't have it.

00:19:39.000 Or they don't have it wireless.

00:19:41.000 You have to plug a cable in to use it.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, that's annoying.

00:19:44.000 There was a thing where BMW was going to make people pay to use Apple CarPlay.

00:19:50.000 Or any other features.

00:19:52.000 I don't know what it is.

00:19:53.000 It was like a monthly subscription.

00:19:55.000 I was like, that's crazy.

00:19:56.000 Is that true?

00:19:57.000 Find out if that's true.

00:19:58.000 It's the rich tax.

00:19:59.000 But that's just stealing money.

00:20:02.000 Like, I bought the car. 1.00

00:20:03.000 Give me the fucking features. 1.00

00:20:04.000 I could just go out and rip that shit out and put one in there that doesn't require anything. 1.00

00:20:10.000 I get our Apple CarPlay. 0.99

00:20:11.000 It used to be an $80 charge.

00:20:14.000 Now it's not.

00:20:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:15.000 They bailed on it.

00:20:16.000 That's crazy.

00:20:17.000 Just the fact that they had you charge per month?

00:20:20.000 A year.

00:20:21.000 A year.

00:20:22.000 That's not a lot, but it's still stealing $80 a year.

00:20:25.000 Yeah, well, it's the rich tax. 0.97

00:20:26.000 It's like, I was just talking to one of the guys out there about, he pulled out some Tom Ford glasses, you know, and it's like, It's like when you finally can start buying stuff like that and you realize, oh, these are way nicer than the shit I've been buying, 0.97

00:20:42.000 right? 0.88

00:20:43.000 But they ain't worth $500.

00:20:45.000 But they know if you can afford, they're probably worth like $250.

00:20:49.000 But they know if you can afford $250 sunglasses, you'll pay $500 for them.

00:20:53.000 Well, how many people sell stuff on, like, aftermarket?

00:20:56.000 They'll buy sneakers right when they come out, and then they sell those sneakers.

00:21:00.000 You could sell them because they'll sell out, and you could sell them for hundreds of dollars more.

00:21:04.000 There's some people that that's their whole business.

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:06.000 They're rich off that.

00:21:07.000 They flip sneakers.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, and they created, like, bots that'll buy them as soon as they come out. 0.56

00:21:11.000 It's crazy.

00:21:12.000 It's crazy the demand for them.

00:21:14.000 Yeah, I've never...

00:21:15.000 I like some sneakers, but I'm not about to...

00:21:20.000 Gadgets are the thing that I would like, that I'm unreasonable, like will pay extra up front to be the first adapted.

00:21:26.000 But sneakers, I'm like, I'll just wait.

00:21:28.000 I'll get some nice ones.

00:21:29.000 Yeah, you're all in with gadgets, and you're all in with Android, which is very interesting.

00:21:35.000 For now.

00:21:36.000 Oh, you're starting to come over to the dark side.

00:21:39.000 Well, I think Apple is about to switch, not to USB-C, but I think they're going to go wireless completely.

00:21:43.000 That's not smart.

00:21:45.000 It's the way they...

00:21:47.000 It's not as fast. 0.99

00:21:48.000 Well, the thing is, the reason they're still on the old Lightning cable is because manufacturers have to pay them for that made-for-Apple shit. 0.90

00:21:59.000 Right, because of the Lightning cable. 0.97

00:22:00.000 They should have gone to USB-C. And they invented USB-C. That's crazy. 0.98

00:22:05.000 And now they got the MagSafe shit. 0.97

00:22:09.000 And that's proprietary as well. 0.99

00:22:11.000 Because the EU just ruled against them.

00:22:13.000 Right.

00:22:13.000 The EU said that they have to put USB-C cables.

00:22:16.000 No, the EU said anything that can be charged with a cable has to be USB-C. Well, USB-C is superior, which is weird.

00:22:25.000 It's like superior for data transfer, superior for everything.

00:22:28.000 But Apple had that proprietary input that, you know...

00:22:32.000 So many more people have iPhones than I know.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, in America.

00:22:37.000 Yeah.

00:22:38.000 But if you look at, like, the number of sales, it's like, I think there's way more Android phones than there are iPhones, right?

00:22:45.000 In the world, yeah.

00:22:46.000 What is it in America?

00:22:47.000 I think even in America there's more Android phones than iPhones.

00:22:50.000 I'm not sure.

00:22:51.000 No.

00:22:52.000 No?

00:22:52.000 No, no, no.

00:22:53.000 Really?

00:22:53.000 I think it's just people with...

00:22:54.000 Apple has a lock on America.

00:22:57.000 But you can get a really good, cheap Android phone for like a couple hundred bucks.

00:23:02.000 Yeah. 0.88

00:23:02.000 Like, if you're on a budget and you just need a phone to text and send an email and shit, an Android phone will do whatever the fuck you need it to do and you can get one. 0.88

00:23:13.000 Go to Verizon Store. 0.98

00:23:15.000 What's a cheap Android?

00:23:16.000 Apple claimed over 50% as of September this year.

00:23:20.000 Oh, so this is the first time?

00:23:21.000 Yeah.

00:23:23.000 I just saw 2010 that said that they don't have the lead.

00:23:27.000 That's incredible.

00:23:28.000 They took it over, I guess.

00:23:30.000 We had this guy Siddharth Kara on the podcast the other day.

00:23:33.000 It was one of the most disturbing and dark and just depressing podcasts I've ever done.

00:23:40.000 Is it about spying?

00:23:41.000 It's about cobalt mining.

00:23:43.000 About what goes into getting a cell phone.

00:23:47.000 What really goes into getting a cell phone is slaves in the Congo and children in the Congo and people with babies on their backs, women who are working with a child on their back, breaking out cobalt with hammers and the toxic fumes. 0.99

00:24:04.000 They're inhaling them.

00:24:05.000 Their child's inhaling them.

00:24:06.000 All sorts of birth defects, cancers, respiratory diseases, dermatitis. 0.99

00:24:12.000 He was talking about all this horrible shit that happens to these people on top of the fact that they're not getting hardly any money. 0.96

00:24:18.000 They're just barely enough to survive and eat. 1.00

00:24:20.000 They're treated like shit. 1.00

00:24:21.000 They work 12 hours a day. 1.00

00:24:22.000 And that's at the heart of every fucking cell phone we own. 1.00

00:24:25.000 We can't even give these motherfuckers the cheap Android phones. 1.00

00:24:28.000 They don't have any phones. 1.00

00:24:29.000 They don't even have electricity.

00:24:30.000 That's what he's telling us.

00:24:32.000 It's like a very, very, very small percentage of the Congo even has electricity.

00:24:37.000 And these people that live in the mines, they're too poor or that work in the mines, they're too poor for any of that.

00:24:42.000 I'm working on this new bit now about how many steps need to be between you and And the atrocity for you to move on with your life.

00:24:54.000 Right.

00:24:55.000 That's a good bit.

00:24:57.000 It's like, as long as I'm not getting my phone from them, that would make me feel bad.

00:25:02.000 Right?

00:25:03.000 Well, think about all the people that are active on their phone doing what they think is social justice.

00:25:09.000 Exactly.

00:25:10.000 It's crazy.

00:25:11.000 And you're on a phone that's literally at the bottom of the supply chain is slaves.

00:25:16.000 Dude, I have a thing for you, Joe.

00:25:17.000 Speaking of which.

00:25:18.000 What do you think...

00:25:21.000 This headline is about.

00:25:23.000 Okay.

00:25:24.000 This is what we do on my podcast, by the way.

00:25:26.000 I use the cough button for the right reason.

00:25:29.000 Woman with Down Syndrome loses court of appeal abortion law case.

00:25:37.000 So what do you think that's about?

00:25:39.000 I would say someone is forcing her to get an abortion. 1.00

00:25:43.000 Okay.

00:25:44.000 And she loses the lawsuit.

00:25:45.000 Right, because that's what a reasonable person would think.

00:25:47.000 Right.

00:25:47.000 No.

00:25:48.000 No.

00:25:49.000 What is it?

00:25:50.000 What it's about is...

00:25:52.000 So this is in England.

00:25:54.000 Their abortion law is pretty much the same as Texas.

00:25:59.000 And...

00:25:59.000 Really?

00:26:00.000 It was pretty close.

00:26:00.000 Six weeks?

00:26:01.000 No, it's not six weeks.

00:26:02.000 But it's like there's an exception for...

00:26:05.000 There's an exception for, you know, the rape and incest.

00:26:11.000 And if there's going to be a severe birth defect.

00:26:14.000 And as a specific example, they use Down syndrome in the law.

00:26:18.000 Hmm.

00:26:20.000 And this woman wants to repeal the law because she has Down syndrome, and making that an exception makes her less than. 1.00

00:26:30.000 So if your baby's about to be born with Down syndrome in the UK, you can have an abortion.

00:26:36.000 You know, it's like, where do you decide birth defects end, right?

00:26:41.000 So what if your child is born with only one hand?

00:26:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:46.000 Well, it's all stuff that they can...

00:26:48.000 What if your child's born like Zion Clark?

00:26:50.000 Well, they can tell genetically beforehand.

00:26:52.000 I don't know if they can...

00:26:52.000 Well, maybe they can.

00:26:53.000 I think they can tell a lot.

00:26:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:56.000 I think they can tell a lot about your development.

00:26:59.000 If someone decides that...

00:27:01.000 I mean, you could get real crazy with that, right?

00:27:04.000 Yeah.

00:27:04.000 People are capable of some very dark justifications.

00:27:07.000 Like, look at what they were doing in China.

00:27:10.000 The one-child policy in China... 0.82

00:27:13.000 There was horror stories about people killing their babies that are girls so they could have one kid.

00:27:20.000 I don't know how many of them were folklore.

00:27:23.000 You know, those are those things that people would tell you.

00:27:26.000 You're just like, you know, they drown their babies.

00:27:28.000 Right, right, right.

00:27:29.000 You know?

00:27:29.000 Like the Spartans, they just throw them off a cliff.

00:27:31.000 Yeah, that they drown their girls. 0.90

00:27:33.000 Like, Jesus.

00:27:34.000 Is that...

00:27:35.000 How much is that real?

00:27:36.000 Do they really...

00:27:37.000 I mean, if you can imagine it, some horrific thing.

00:27:41.000 Someone has done it.

00:27:42.000 Because it's also crazy.

00:27:44.000 Because, like, what you can't have is a country of just men. 0.99

00:27:49.000 You can't...

00:27:50.000 No.

00:27:50.000 No, no, no.

00:27:51.000 As much as we talk and complain about women, we still need them to be... 1.00

00:27:55.000 We need that feminine energy to balance out. 1.00

00:27:58.000 You see what happens when it's just men left to their devices and there's no women. 0.87

00:28:03.000 That gets crazy.

00:28:05.000 It's not good.

00:28:06.000 No.

00:28:06.000 And also, if there's not enough females to match with the heterosexual males, you don't even have a chance.

00:28:13.000 Right, right.

00:28:14.000 If you're a guy already...

00:28:17.000 You know, everyone wants to talk about, like, you know, the benefits of being a guy, and there are benefits to being a guy, but one of the negative effects of being a guy that people don't talk about is guys that are unattractive and don't have any money.

00:28:32.000 They are unheard and unseen.

00:28:36.000 Unattractive guys with no money, they're in a very strange position in our society.

00:28:42.000 Andrew Tate, as much as people hate him, talked about that. 1.00

00:28:46.000 He's like, it's a very small percentage of guys that have all the money and all the women and all the fucking Ferraris and all that shit. 1.00

00:28:53.000 He's like, to say that that's men, that's representative of men, is insane. 0.99

00:28:58.000 Because it is such a small percentage. 0.98

00:29:01.000 Now, if it's a guy like that who's got diamond-crusted watches and he's fucking flashing and he's blinging and he's taking pictures with all these girls, it's obnoxious. 0.98

00:29:11.000 Everybody else gets upset about it. 0.97

00:29:13.000 But one of the reasons why they get upset about it is because they know how inaccessible that is.

00:29:18.000 For most people, it's completely impossible.

00:29:21.000 And women don't like to hear that. 1.00

00:29:24.000 And in a lot of situations, the ceiling is capped for women. 1.00

00:29:28.000 But the floor is also capped.

00:29:31.000 You know? 0.99

00:29:31.000 It's like, I ain't never seen a homeless bad bitch. 0.99

00:29:34.000 Not one time. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Yeah, but if they're not a bad bitch. 1.00

00:29:36.000 See, like, if you're a guy, like, even if you're a hot guy, you could still be poor and broke and no one's marrying you. 0.99

00:29:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:44.000 Remember the one guy that Miley Cyrus, like, rescued?

00:29:47.000 Like, he was homeless and she, like, took him on a date to the award show or something?

00:29:50.000 It's like, yeah, he was on the street.

00:29:52.000 But you've never seen a girl that could be a model on the street. 0.99

00:29:56.000 That's maybe true.

00:29:58.000 Because there's always some dude that's willing to take care of you. 0.94

00:30:02.000 There's a lot of pretty prostitutes, man. 1.00

00:30:05.000 Some people go through some horrible shit in their life, even if they're attractive. 1.00

00:30:10.000 They're in the wrong situation, the wrong abuse at home. 0.99

00:30:14.000 Or they got schizophrenia or something.

00:30:16.000 Yes.

00:30:17.000 Mental health is...

00:30:18.000 Men too. 0.98

00:30:18.000 Like a hot guy with schizophrenia. 0.98

00:30:20.000 What a disaster. 1.00

00:30:22.000 Wasted all those genes on a wacky brain. 1.00

00:30:25.000 I forget what rapper said, but he's like a fat ass on a nun. 1.00

00:30:31.000 Who was that? 1.00

00:30:31.000 Chino XL. Oh, that's funny. 1.00

00:30:34.000 He said, you're a worthless waste of flesh like a fat ass on a nun. 1.00

00:30:37.000 That's funny. 1.00

00:30:38.000 That's some cold shit to say in a row. 1.00

00:30:39.000 That is very cold. 1.00

00:30:40.000 Yeah, but it's like, yeah, it's kind of, it's sad, man.

00:30:44.000 But I'm not sure if the world is worse.

00:30:48.000 Because, you know, the media wants you to believe that, like, everything's horrible.

00:30:52.000 No, the world's better statistically.

00:30:55.000 Right, right, right.

00:30:56.000 And I know people are doing bad, worse now relative to how they were doing a few years ago.

00:31:01.000 Yes. 0.99

00:31:02.000 But we all just went, the whole globe went through the same shit. 0.99

00:31:06.000 Well, it's, yeah, it's, you can't shut a country down. 0.99

00:31:09.000 Now we know.

00:31:10.000 Now we know.

00:31:11.000 You can't do that.

00:31:12.000 But, you know, there's a lot of people that want to claim that they had the solution to that. 0.70

00:31:16.000 No one knew what the fuck was going on in the beginning. 0.93

00:31:19.000 The way it was handled was definitely bad. 0.98

00:31:20.000 But in the beginning, no one knew what the fuck to do. 0.90

00:31:24.000 We were all in favor of the lockdown at first because we all thought it was going to work. 0.91

00:31:27.000 Except for like virologists and epidemiologists who thought that it didn't matter and it was just going to spread no matter what you did.

00:31:34.000 Well, what blows my mind is that I feel like we're going to make the same mistake again.

00:31:40.000 We might...

00:31:40.000 Well, there's people that want to put the masks back on for RSV and for the flu and for all these different things we never wore a mask for before.

00:31:48.000 And then there's all this evidence that kids' immune system function is not working as good because they didn't get exposed to anything for all those times when they were isolated. 0.98

00:31:56.000 What about that fungal shit? 0.99

00:31:58.000 You heard about that? 1.00

00:31:58.000 Fungal shit. 1.00

00:31:59.000 There's like some fungal shit that was like spreading in Vegas. 1.00

00:32:02.000 Now it's everywhere. 0.99

00:32:03.000 What is it? 1.00

00:32:03.000 It's some shit you can breathe. 1.00

00:32:04.000 It's a fungus that you can breathe in. 1.00

00:32:06.000 Oh, no. 0.81

00:32:07.000 And it fucks some people up.

00:32:09.000 Imagine if it got you high. 0.99

00:32:10.000 Imagine if it was like psilocybin fungus that you could breathe in and there's like a whole town of people just tripping balls. 0.98

00:32:16.000 That reminds me of like, I don't know if it was an Outer Limits episode or something, but it was like some shit was going around the world fucking people up and it was making their skin like copper almost. 0.98

00:32:29.000 And then all the medical people were fighting on it and lockdowns and everything and at the end they realized that it was like a It was preparing everyone's skin because the sun was about to go turn into a white dwarf or whatever the fuck, 0.95

00:32:45.000 or a red giant, and it was basically aliens saving us.

00:32:49.000 They introduced a virus that changed our skin so we could withstand the extra radiation.

00:32:53.000 Oh, wow.

00:32:55.000 I know, man.

00:32:56.000 I've always wondered if that's why aliens have those big black eyes.

00:33:00.000 If those things are like sunglasses. 0.99

00:33:03.000 It's like their environment gets so fucked that they need to be shielded from ultra-violet rays they can't see normally. 0.89

00:33:11.000 See, I would love to do that. 0.99

00:33:12.000 What if we got...

00:33:13.000 Because you know enough smart people.

00:33:14.000 If we got together and tried to re-engineer the human body...

00:33:17.000 They're gonna do that.

00:33:19.000 They're doing that right now.

00:33:21.000 There's a thing called...

00:33:21.000 Do you know what CRISPR is?

00:33:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:33:23.000 The gene splicing thing?

00:33:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:25.000 Wild shit. 1.00

00:33:26.000 That's some crazy shit. 1.00

00:33:28.000 Wild shit. 1.00

00:33:29.000 They're going to make Thors and Hulks. 1.00

00:33:32.000 People are going to be able to run 500 miles an hour.

00:33:35.000 Remember Gattaca?

00:33:37.000 Yes, yeah.

00:33:37.000 Yeah, and it's like, yo, you're not going to have a choice.

00:33:40.000 People are like, I'm not going to edit my kids.

00:33:41.000 Yes, you are.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, you're gonna.

00:33:43.000 Yes, you are.

00:33:44.000 It'll be a new thing.

00:33:45.000 It'll just be like vaccinating your kids.

00:33:47.000 It'll be like things that everybody does.

00:33:49.000 It'll be like, you know, bringing your kid to the doctor for a checkup.

00:33:53.000 You know, having a baby in a hospital.

00:33:56.000 It'd be normal.

00:33:57.000 Whoever's Kim Kardashian in 2045, as soon as they pump out a super baby...

00:34:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 Like, can you imagine, like, getting, like, John Jones's, you know, mother's genes and mixing them with, like, uh, uh, Francis and Ghanu and...

00:34:14.000 Oh my god, yeah.

00:34:15.000 Yeah, and just having, like, what are you gonna do?

00:34:18.000 You're gonna make your baby... 0.74

00:34:20.000 Still be 5'6"?

00:34:22.000 Yeah.

00:34:22.000 When everybody's baby's 6'2 and just yoked?

00:34:25.000 Well, what about intellect?

00:34:28.000 One of the things that they did in China was they said that they were doing this thing to inoculate them from HIV. That was the pretense.

00:34:37.000 But what it really did was make them smarter.

00:34:41.000 And this doctor wound up, I think they just put the doctor in jail to, like, say, oh, I can't even believe he was doing this.

00:34:47.000 Put him in jail.

00:34:48.000 Oh, wow.

00:34:48.000 You know, the dude probably was, they probably told him to do it.

00:34:52.000 So they did this to everyone?

00:34:53.000 No, no, they did it to a couple guys.

00:34:55.000 How many people did they do that to?

00:34:58.000 I think it's...

00:35:00.000 Two twin girls, it says.

00:35:01.000 Two twin girls, sorry, girls. 0.96

00:35:04.000 But I don't know how they know.

00:35:06.000 How long ago was this?

00:35:09.000 I think we've gone over this.

00:35:10.000 We've tried to figure out how they knew that their IQ was higher.

00:35:14.000 I think what they did with editing had something to do with cognitive function.

00:35:19.000 And they think that what they did would...

00:35:21.000 You don't have to put that on the ground if you don't want to.

00:35:23.000 Oh, okay.

00:35:23.000 You have that on the ground for a reason.

00:35:25.000 I was like, hide the logo because he's my...

00:35:27.000 No, you don't have to hide logos. 0.99

00:35:28.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

00:35:29.000 What is it? 0.99

00:35:30.000 It's Uptime.

00:35:32.000 What is it? 0.99

00:35:33.000 It's some kind of fucking... 0.99

00:35:34.000 Energy drink? 1.00

00:35:35.000 Energy drink, yeah.

00:35:36.000 I drink it all the time.

00:35:37.000 Good stuff?

00:35:37.000 What's it called again?

00:35:38.000 Uptime.

00:35:39.000 Uptime.

00:35:40.000 Yeah.

00:35:40.000 All right.

00:35:42.000 So what's the deal?

00:35:43.000 How do they know these guys are smarter?

00:35:45.000 I'm trying to figure that out.

00:35:46.000 These girls, excuse me. 1.00

00:35:47.000 So sexist.

00:35:48.000 CCR5 genes related to major brain functions.

00:35:50.000 You might have done some kind of human anatomy.

00:35:51.000 That's what it is.

00:35:52.000 Created by two intelligent human beings with better memory.

00:35:54.000 So they did it to them in the womb?

00:35:56.000 They did it to them as embryos?

00:35:59.000 When did they do it?

00:36:01.000 I don't know.

00:36:02.000 I've got to find a different article.

00:36:03.000 I'm reading a study on it.

00:36:05.000 Okay.

00:36:05.000 But the whole point is they've already started doing stuff like that.

00:36:09.000 And so if they can do that with the mind, imagine we all get Elon Musk's brain.

00:36:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:17.000 Would you want it?

00:36:17.000 No, not his.

00:36:19.000 Like if I'm picking my geniuses?

00:36:21.000 Right.

00:36:21.000 No, he's too emotional.

00:36:23.000 I would probably go with...

00:36:26.000 Probably like a Sam Harris.

00:36:28.000 Dude, I think they're all emotional.

00:36:29.000 I think most Gene and Sam's brilliant, too.

00:36:32.000 But, I mean, people are human beings.

00:36:33.000 Human beings are emotional.

00:36:34.000 No, I'm just saying there's different kinds of intelligence.

00:36:37.000 Well, he engages.

00:36:38.000 You know, that's the thing.

00:36:39.000 These guys, they engage with people online.

00:36:41.000 When you engage online, like, your emotions are going to get beat up, even if they're strong.

00:36:48.000 Even if they're strong, your emotions are going to go on a run.

00:36:51.000 You're going to utilize a certain amount of your resources on those emotions.

00:36:54.000 Well, I went...

00:36:56.000 Because my producer doesn't like Elon Musk, and we argue about it all the time.

00:37:01.000 What doesn't he like about him?

00:37:04.000 He's just a hardcore lefty.

00:37:06.000 So, you know, Elon is...

00:37:09.000 I don't want to put words in his mouth, but to him, Elon is what's wrong with everything.

00:37:14.000 But I'm one of those people where I try my best to be neutral with people like him because he's one of those people that's so polarizing that when people don't like you the way they don't like him, they...

00:37:29.000 Anything negative about you, they just believe it or repeat it.

00:37:33.000 For people like that, it's always good to try to engage them as calmly as possible and not even to pick a side.

00:37:39.000 Just you kind of want to steel man their position, right?

00:37:43.000 Like if someone is very, very emotional, you almost want to ask them, okay, tell me what you think and why you think this way.

00:37:51.000 And then they tell you what they think, and then you could say, have you ever considered, or did you know that, this?

00:38:01.000 I see what you're saying.

00:38:02.000 I agree with what you're saying.

00:38:03.000 You almost want to say, I see your points.

00:38:05.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:38:06.000 But human beings are extremely nuanced.

00:38:09.000 And you could narrow a guy like Elon down to a very dismissible box very easily.

00:38:37.000 I hope he picks Lex. 0.87

00:38:39.000 Well, Lex offered to do it.

00:38:43.000 Lex is a brilliant engineer.

00:38:45.000 I don't know if he wants to be a CEO. A chief executive officer, that's what that is, right?

00:38:50.000 But do you think he was bullshitting when he offered?

00:38:52.000 I don't know if that's what he's offering.

00:38:53.000 He might have been offering to take it over from an engineering perspective.

00:38:57.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:58.000 Because that would change what he does.

00:39:00.000 And if he did do something like that, I think Lex is a brilliant man.

00:39:04.000 And he would be great at anything he puts his mind to.

00:39:07.000 He's one of the best interviewers in the game.

00:39:09.000 His podcast is sensational.

00:39:12.000 And he's so brilliant.

00:39:13.000 I mean, he used to work on AI at MIT. And he writes code for artificial intelligence.

00:39:22.000 When I first came down here, I didn't know who he was.

00:39:24.000 But I remember he was hanging out with you and all the comics and blah blah blah. 0.99

00:39:28.000 And you could just, just the way he was sitting in the corner, like, this motherfucker's different. 0.99

00:39:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:39:33.000 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, shreds on the guitar, genius, like a certifiable genius.

00:39:40.000 And he's ultimately very curious and very kind.

00:39:45.000 He's a very kind person.

00:39:46.000 And he says it all, like he's always talking about treating people with love.

00:39:50.000 And he'll talk to anybody, man.

00:39:52.000 He'll talk to anyone. 1.00

00:39:53.000 He had Kanye on early when everybody was like, oh my god, Kanye's lost his fucking mind. 0.99

00:39:58.000 Lex is like, let him come on long form and express himself. 0.99

00:40:02.000 Yeah, and in a way that's like a death knell because it's like once you talk to him and you stay on that shit, there's no one that's going to treat you with more kindness and more objectivity. 0.98

00:40:13.000 Yeah, no more than Lex. 0.99

00:40:15.000 Yeah.

00:40:16.000 Yeah, no, he's great at it.

00:40:17.000 But see, the problem is if he went and became the CEO of Twitter, I feel like we wouldn't have as much of that Lex anymore.

00:40:25.000 He wouldn't be able to do those podcasts and do that.

00:40:28.000 But I know he likes working hard, man.

00:40:31.000 He's one of those crazy dudes that enjoys like 100-hour work weeks.

00:40:34.000 He likes dedicating himself to things. 0.85

00:40:36.000 Bro, I don't have that gene.

00:40:38.000 He's got a different gene.

00:40:39.000 I don't have that.

00:40:40.000 Well, he doesn't have the stand-up gene, I don't think.

00:40:42.000 I mean, maybe he could probably do it.

00:40:44.000 He could do it if he thought about it.

00:40:45.000 If he thought about it long enough.

00:40:46.000 You think he could do stand-up?

00:40:47.000 100%.

00:40:48.000 Yeah.

00:40:49.000 Really smart people could...

00:40:50.000 Elon could do it 100%.

00:40:51.000 Just the fact that he would write that, if you want to lose a bone real quick, a picture of Bill Gates next to a pregnant man emoji.

00:40:58.000 See, but I... No, see, I disagree.

00:41:01.000 Listen, you did it. 1.00

00:41:02.000 You sucked from the beginning. 0.99

00:41:03.000 I'm not saying he'd be good. 0.99

00:41:04.000 Yeah, but I'm...

00:41:06.000 But being funny...

00:41:07.000 Being funny is just one part of it, right?

00:41:09.000 But the live performing thing...

00:41:14.000 That's the hard part.

00:41:15.000 There's a lot to that, for sure.

00:41:17.000 But there's people that are really funny that aren't that good at live performing.

00:41:21.000 Yeah, they're writers.

00:41:22.000 Yeah, but they write and they go on stage sometimes and kill.

00:41:25.000 There's certain guys that we know that are really good joke writers.

00:41:28.000 They're not the most charismatic on stage.

00:41:30.000 The only people that I think absolutely can't do it are people that are just not funny at all.

00:41:37.000 Because I know people that think they can do it, and I think you've never made anyone laugh.

00:41:45.000 You've never made me laugh, and the whole time I've known you, you can't do stand-up.

00:41:49.000 Well, some people, like, severely, like, we all lack self-awareness, like, complete objectivity, but some people just have zero.

00:41:59.000 They just don't know, you know, they just don't know.

00:42:02.000 It's almost like some people are just born hard of hearing.

00:42:07.000 Their ears don't work well.

00:42:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:09.000 Some people are born and they just, whatever the fuck it is about personality and... 1.00

00:42:13.000 It's like people that are tone deaf. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Yeah.

00:42:15.000 It's like they think they can sing and they don't hear it.

00:42:17.000 They don't hear it, how horrible it is.

00:42:19.000 But that's, they're just, it's the same kind of person.

00:42:21.000 It's like there's delusional people.

00:42:24.000 Their brain's not working right.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, I think that comes from like, you have to, that's why who is around you is so important.

00:42:33.000 In a lot of ways, it's the look of the draw.

00:42:36.000 A lot of ways.

00:42:36.000 If you're in the middle of nowhere, you know, Little Rock, Arkansas, you want to do stand-up?

00:42:41.000 I don't know how many dudes are there that are really good.

00:42:43.000 Yeah.

00:42:43.000 Right?

00:42:44.000 You're in Hartford, Connecticut, you want to do stand-up?

00:42:46.000 Or just somebody that loves you enough to tell you the truth.

00:42:48.000 They're like, hey man, you shouldn't do this.

00:42:50.000 You know?

00:42:51.000 Yeah, but you can't listen to all those people.

00:42:54.000 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

00:42:55.000 My mom told me I wasn't funny.

00:42:56.000 Oh, well, yeah.

00:42:58.000 My family, I don't know what they think.

00:43:01.000 I think they recognize that other people think I'm funny. 0.70

00:43:05.000 Well, they know you're killing. 0.95

00:43:06.000 Yeah.

00:43:07.000 They have to hear the laughs.

00:43:08.000 But I think it's hard for people that knew you when you weren't this to see you as the way they look at other big name people and stuff. 0.93

00:43:15.000 That's why it's really hard when you start off as an open-miker in a city, and then they always think of you as that guy who sucked.

00:43:22.000 And then you go on and you get better, and you have to come back as a headliner.

00:43:27.000 You gotta come back when you're undeniable.

00:43:29.000 You know that whole bit that Chappelle has about how his kid wanted to really meet Kevin Hart, you know?

00:43:35.000 And it's like...

00:43:36.000 Because to his kids, he's just dad. 0.99

00:43:39.000 He ain't the funniest motherfucker on the planet. 0.99

00:43:42.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:43:43.000 People that know you a certain way, it's hard for them to knock you out of it.

00:43:46.000 Well, at least they've known him as dad.

00:43:49.000 He's always been Dave Chappelle.

00:43:50.000 What if they knew him as dad, the open-miker?

00:43:53.000 Yeah.

00:43:54.000 That's a different animal.

00:43:55.000 See, by the time he had children, you know, he was already Dave Chappelle.

00:44:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:01.000 You know, if you're an open-miker and you're in a town and they watch you eat shit the first time you ever get on stage and you got notes and shit, they're always going to remember that. 0.99

00:44:12.000 They probably saw you bomb 20 times. 0.98

00:44:14.000 I remember, like, I was talking to Bert's family, and it's like, his kids don't even watch him.

00:44:22.000 They're completely uninterested.

00:44:23.000 They get plenty of him.

00:44:24.000 He's at home.

00:44:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:26.000 He's there all the time.

00:44:27.000 I was there when they first saw him tell the machine story.

00:44:30.000 Wow.

00:44:31.000 They weren't allowed to see it until they were like a certain age.

00:44:34.000 And it's crazy.

00:44:36.000 They would be completely not even curious to like look up all this stuff.

00:44:41.000 That makes sense though.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, it makes sense.

00:44:43.000 Now that I think because I don't have kids, so I don't understand.

00:44:45.000 But now I do.

00:44:46.000 You know, it's like to them, it's like, When he was gone?

00:44:51.000 Right.

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:52.000 He's just your dad.

00:44:53.000 Yeah.

00:44:54.000 That's an interesting comparison, but I think it's even more extreme when someone sees you as a beginner in something.

00:45:00.000 That's the thing with martial arts, too.

00:45:02.000 Sometimes someone's a white belt, and you always think of them as that person you used to crush when they were a white belt. 1.00

00:45:07.000 And then all of a sudden, they're a purple belt, and you're in fucking danger. 1.00

00:45:09.000 And they wrap your ass. 1.00

00:45:10.000 Yeah, you're in danger. 1.00

00:45:11.000 You're like, oh, no, you got a lot better. 1.00

00:45:13.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:45:13.000 See, jujitsu intimidates me. 1.00

00:45:16.000 But I need to pick something up.

00:45:19.000 I think I'm going to do boxing.

00:45:21.000 Why don't you do jiu-jitsu?

00:45:23.000 I don't know.

00:45:24.000 I wrestled for my freshman year of high school and I hated it.

00:45:30.000 It's hard.

00:45:32.000 It's constantly hard.

00:45:34.000 It doesn't stop being hard.

00:45:37.000 Wrestlers are some of the mentally strongest people in the world.

00:45:41.000 Just to get through the practices and the drills and all the live rounds, the live wrestling, and then to go to meets and to make weight the day of the match and the shit that those guys go through, the way they cut weight, the mental strength that wrestlers have off the charts.

00:46:01.000 At focusing while they're suffering. 0.99

00:46:04.000 Whereas the average person will be suffering and 90% of their brain power will be focused on how much it sucks.

00:46:11.000 And wrestlers learn how to just ignore it and completely focus while they're in pain, when they can't breathe.

00:46:19.000 They have a phrase for it.

00:46:20.000 It's called embrace the grind. 0.99

00:46:22.000 If you've never had a motherfucker on top of you that you can't get off you, you don't understand what I'm talking about. 0.99

00:46:30.000 Because, look, I'll never forget one. 0.99

00:46:31.000 This is what made me quit wrestling.

00:46:33.000 I showed up at this...

00:46:35.000 It was our school hosting a tournament.

00:46:39.000 And I'd gotten my brother to come. 0.99

00:46:41.000 And, you know, my family didn't give a fuck about wrestling. 0.98

00:46:44.000 But he came to watch. 0.97

00:46:46.000 And I was going up against this other...

00:46:48.000 It was my turn to go against this other dude. 1.00

00:46:51.000 And I walked in, and this motherfucker's got... 1.00

00:46:53.000 He's got some kind of tubes or some shit coming out of him. 1.00

00:46:56.000 Like, he's on some kind of, I don't know, a heart thing or something. 0.98

00:46:59.000 And no one gave me any guidance.

00:47:01.000 No one gave me a heads up.

00:47:02.000 I didn't know if I was allowed to grab it.

00:47:04.000 Like, would he die if I pulled it up? 1.00

00:47:05.000 None of that shit. 1.00

00:47:06.000 No one said anything to me. 0.99

00:47:08.000 But I'm like, okay, it's fine.

00:47:10.000 My brother's watching. 1.00

00:47:11.000 I'm just going to fuck this dude up. 1.00

00:47:13.000 He's crippled or something, right? 1.00

00:47:14.000 That's how I was thinking back then. 0.99

00:47:17.000 And as soon as the ref blew the whistle, I've never seen a motherfucker move this fast. 0.98

00:47:22.000 He dove at my ankle and tripped me and was on my back and we rolled out of bounds and the ref blew the whistle and he dove at my ankle and he did it like five times in a row, just lightning! 1.00

00:47:35.000 Fuck me up. 1.00

00:47:35.000 And I threw my headset off and I got Dr. Point and I was like, fuck that. 1.00

00:47:38.000 And I walked out of the gym. 1.00

00:47:39.000 Wow.

00:47:40.000 Because my, you know, because it was the first time anyone come to watch me and I got just embarrassed and I couldn't handle it.

00:47:46.000 Oh, no.

00:47:47.000 Yeah.

00:47:47.000 Never wrestled after that.

00:47:50.000 If you get in there with someone who's really good at something and you're not, you just realize right away, you're like, oh no, I can't think as quick as you're moving.

00:48:00.000 I can't keep the rhythm.

00:48:02.000 I don't know what you're doing before you're doing it, and then you're doing another thing because you anticipate my counter to that thing, and then you've chained another thing together, and now I'm on my back again.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, it's like you're in trouble.

00:48:13.000 And honestly, it came down because there was a war between our coach and our assistant coach.

00:48:19.000 Because our coach would focus on technique and drilling and stuff like that.

00:48:23.000 And our assistant coach wanted us just in the weight room.

00:48:24.000 He was like, if you're stronger, you'll win.

00:48:27.000 And the assistant coach won out. 1.00

00:48:29.000 Because all these people motherfuckers are volunteers. 0.99

00:48:32.000 And the coach ended up leaving. 0.99

00:48:34.000 The strength guy was in. 0.99

00:48:36.000 And he was like, no, motherfucker, I needed to know what to do. 0.98

00:48:39.000 When somebody dives at your ankle with the speed of Usain Bolt or whatever, you know? 0.99

00:48:45.000 Yeah, if you know technique, then strength is important.

00:48:49.000 But strength is not as important as technique.

00:48:51.000 No.

00:48:52.000 Technique is the most important thing by far.

00:48:53.000 If you look at how the Russians did it, that's one of the things that's interesting about George St. Pierre. 0.53

00:48:58.000 Because George St. Pierre was one of the very best wrestlers in MMA, but he didn't wrestle in high school or college.

00:49:03.000 He's from Canada.

00:49:04.000 And where he was from, he didn't engage in wrestling.

00:49:09.000 He learned wrestling from the Russian nationals that had moved to Montreal.

00:49:14.000 So he learned it as a martial artist.

00:49:17.000 As an adult?

00:49:17.000 As an adult.

00:49:18.000 Wow.

00:49:19.000 And look how good he got. 1.00

00:49:20.000 Because their shit was very, very technical. 1.00

00:49:23.000 The Russians are always known to be very technical, and they do a lot of drilling. 1.00

00:49:27.000 Because there's not like an ego-based system, right?

00:49:31.000 The system is about success.

00:49:33.000 Like, what's the best way to achieve success?

00:49:36.000 It's like, you don't have a choice.

00:49:38.000 This is Soviet Union, right? 1.00

00:49:40.000 You shut the fuck up, and this is what you're gonna do. 1.00

00:49:43.000 There's no Billy does it his own way. 1.00

00:49:45.000 There's none of that.

00:49:46.000 This is not the culture.

00:49:47.000 The culture is like, figure out and suffer.

00:49:49.000 And what's the best way to do?

00:49:51.000 Do what you don't want to do, which is drill.

00:49:53.000 And that's the same thing with jujitsu, too.

00:49:55.000 If you want to get really good, a guy like Mikey Musumechi, he drills all day.

00:50:01.000 Yeah, I'm a huge fan.

00:50:01.000 Gordon Ryan, those guys drill all day.

00:50:03.000 They drill constantly.

00:50:04.000 The more you drill, the more it's like tying the shoes.

00:50:07.000 And the more those things you can add to your repertoire, the better you are.

00:50:11.000 Those guys will get to a point where it doesn't matter how strong you are.

00:50:15.000 You don't know what to do with your strength.

00:50:17.000 Yeah.

00:50:17.000 You're helpless because your arm doesn't work strong that way.

00:50:22.000 They're behind you.

00:50:23.000 You're fighting an arm around your neck. 1.00

00:50:26.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:50:26.000 And then you watch some of the shit they pull off. 1.00

00:50:34.000 Whereas you have to slow it down to see exactly what they did. 1.00

00:50:37.000 How the fuck did he get on his back? 0.97

00:50:39.000 Yeah, Mikey did that in 1FC. There's this back take that he had that's so brilliant. 0.99

00:50:44.000 I made a bunch of people watch it.

00:50:45.000 I'm like, watch this.

00:50:46.000 Watch how slick this back take is.

00:50:48.000 Are you going to play it?

00:50:49.000 Yeah, we could find it.

00:50:51.000 Mikey Musumechi's slick back take in 1FC. It was beautiful.

00:50:55.000 Yeah, he's a genius.

00:50:57.000 He's brilliant.

00:50:57.000 His whole family dangerous.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, his sister's dangerous, too.

00:51:00.000 Yeah, the sister, she just did something. 0.94

00:51:03.000 She's a black belt, too.

00:51:04.000 Yeah, she just won a tournament somewhere. 0.80

00:51:06.000 I'm sure.

00:51:07.000 Yeah.

00:51:07.000 She's his sister.

00:51:08.000 She's probably an assassin. 1.00

00:51:10.000 But I remember the first time I ever saw him, I saw him live in Austin when they were doing that Who's Number One thing.

00:51:18.000 And it was him and this other dude that were grappling. 0.99

00:51:22.000 And the other dude was, like, ripped, and he had fucking shaved head and tattoos and shit. 0.99

00:51:27.000 Oh, yeah, this is it. 0.99

00:51:28.000 And I'm like, I'll take the guy with the glasses.

00:51:31.000 I'm like, watch this back take.

00:51:33.000 And this is against Iminari, who's super legit.

00:51:35.000 Look at that back take.

00:51:37.000 He stepped over with one leg.

00:51:38.000 Show that one more time.

00:51:40.000 Watch how he did this.

00:51:41.000 Like, if you don't know jujitsu, like, he's in sort of side control here.

00:51:44.000 But look at that.

00:51:44.000 He got to his back so quickly.

00:51:47.000 It was so slick.

00:51:49.000 And all of a sudden, Iminari's trapped.

00:51:50.000 I mean, this is absolute, beautiful, precision movement.

00:51:54.000 And that's something he's drilled like a thousand times, I'm sure.

00:51:57.000 And Iminari's like one of the goats.

00:51:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:59.000 He's a legend.

00:52:01.000 Iminari's like, they created a role after him, like the Iminari role.

00:52:04.000 It's called the Iminari role.

00:52:06.000 There's also an Iminari submission from an omoplata.

00:52:10.000 It's like you got a guy on a shoulder lock, and you reach under the chin with an S-grip, and you submit him from the back.

00:52:16.000 Maybe I will try some jujitsu.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:52:19.000 Because you know what? 1.00

00:52:20.000 Motherfuckers is getting more dangerous. 1.00

00:52:22.000 It's like comedy. 1.00

00:52:24.000 You're gonna suck, and then you're gonna get better. 0.99

00:52:27.000 That's what it's like. 0.99

00:52:28.000 But unlike comedy, anybody can get better.

00:52:31.000 At Jiu Jitsu?

00:52:32.000 Yes.

00:52:33.000 Anybody can get better at Jiu Jitsu. 1.00

00:52:35.000 Some of the stupidest people in the world are good at Jiu Jitsu. 1.00

00:52:38.000 You just need to drill it. 1.00

00:52:40.000 But it's a different kind of intelligence.

00:52:44.000 Some people have a lot of access to information, like the definition of words, history they can pull up and tell you about.

00:52:52.000 It's very, very impressive.

00:52:54.000 And some people have a wide library of physical movements that they could pull up.

00:53:00.000 It's like a reflex.

00:53:01.000 It's still intelligence.

00:53:02.000 You have to have like a bug on you and you pop just without even thinking about it.

00:53:05.000 It's like some people have that. 1.00

00:53:06.000 They feel your thigh on their knee in a certain way and they just snap and you're fucking dead. 0.97

00:53:12.000 They just know what you're going to do, too. 0.98

00:53:14.000 God, that's so terrifying.

00:53:15.000 They've rolled so many times and they have such a deep understanding of what's possible with the human body, where the leverage points are.

00:53:21.000 Jiu-jitsu is so technical. 0.99

00:53:23.000 People think of it as being like this brutish thing where people just like choke each other and shit. 0.88

00:53:28.000 But you see a guy like Mikey, he's not a brute at all. 0.94

00:53:32.000 Jiu-jitsu is super, super technical.

00:53:34.000 Why do you think Sambo is more popular?

00:53:36.000 Well, that's interesting that you said that because Gordon Ryan just said that he thinks that combat Sambo is actually better for MMA than Jiu-jitsu is.

00:53:44.000 Which, he's got some real good points.

00:53:46.000 If anybody knows, it's Gordon. 0.94

00:53:48.000 And the guys that are really good in combat sambo, like Khabib and Islam Makhchev, who's the UFC lightweight champion right now, he's a fucking animal and he's a combat sambo guy.

00:54:00.000 There's a lot of those combat sambo guys where, you know, they're really good at controlling people from the top position. 1.00

00:54:07.000 Which, you know, arguably when you add in punches and elbows and stuff like that, that's more important than anything.

00:54:12.000 And they can submit you too.

00:54:14.000 Because it feels like whatever the answer to Khabib is... 0.80

00:54:22.000 The next generation is going to come up with doing that as natural, right?

00:54:27.000 Well, they're going to encounter guys like that, and they're going to try to figure out counters to it.

00:54:32.000 Or they're going to get better at what they're doing, that combat soundball style, and they'll get better at it and incorporate other things to it.

00:54:41.000 But Khabib's done that too.

00:54:42.000 You just don't see it as much.

00:54:43.000 When he submitted Justin Gaethje, he submitted him with a mounted triangle, and then he finished him off of his back and put him to sleep.

00:54:50.000 He can do all those other things.

00:54:52.000 That was his last match.

00:54:53.000 That was his last match.

00:54:55.000 But he almost got Dustin at the end of the first round and then finally submitted him in the second round.

00:55:01.000 But it was brilliant.

00:55:02.000 But it was as good as you'll ever see like an elite Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt do it.

00:55:08.000 So he can do that too.

00:55:09.000 He can submit you off his back too. 0.99

00:55:11.000 But that pressure, that top pressure and the ability to take guys down and control them and beat the fuck out of them. 0.98

00:55:17.000 Smash! 1.00

00:55:18.000 What he calls it.

00:55:19.000 By the way, side note, Paige Van Zandt tweeted that she was single yesterday.

00:55:24.000 Oh no.

00:55:24.000 Just in case I was wondering.

00:55:25.000 Is she tweeting stuff like that? 0.84

00:55:27.000 She tweeted, and I'm single. 1.00

00:55:28.000 Imagine the amount of dick pics that must be coming that lady's way. 1.00

00:55:34.000 It must be like locust. 0.99

00:55:36.000 Right, but it's like, the thing is, you gotta be able to beat her to qualify. 0.99

00:55:40.000 She's not fucking a dude weakening her. 1.00

00:55:42.000 No. 0.99

00:55:42.000 You remember those videos you'd see of Kansas in the 1950s when a locust would hit? 0.99

00:55:49.000 You can't even get to your car.

00:55:50.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:55:52.000 That's probably what the dick pics are like coming at Paige Van Zandt. 1.00

00:55:55.000 Must be unstoppable. 0.98

00:55:56.000 I mean, it was probably like that beforehand.

00:55:58.000 Like, it was probably pretty bad beforehand, but now she's like, I'm single, everybody.

00:56:01.000 Well, she just put the bat signal up. 1.00

00:56:03.000 Right, right. 1.00

00:56:03.000 If she said I'm single, and she said I'm single on fucking social media. 1.00

00:56:08.000 I'm like, yeah, just get on one of the maps. 0.99

00:56:10.000 Get on Hinge or Ryo.

00:56:11.000 She doesn't have to do that. 0.78

00:56:13.000 No?

00:56:13.000 No, just filter through those DMs.

00:56:14.000 Do they have a dating app just for fighters?

00:56:17.000 That's a good question.

00:56:18.000 There's not enough of them.

00:56:19.000 No?

00:56:19.000 It's so hard to become a fighter.

00:56:21.000 Oh, yeah, I guess that's true.

00:56:22.000 Yeah, you...

00:56:23.000 I mean, and to find female fighters? 1.00

00:56:25.000 Oh, my God.

00:56:26.000 Good luck.

00:56:28.000 She might have been kidding.

00:56:30.000 Oh, was just joking around?

00:56:32.000 Yeah, there's tweets she was doing to...

00:56:34.000 It had to do with the football player quarterback for the...

00:56:38.000 Oh! 0.60

00:56:39.000 She's joking.

00:56:41.000 Okay.

00:56:41.000 Like, if they did good, her husband would like that or something like that.

00:56:44.000 And then they won, so she says, am I single now?

00:56:46.000 Oh, that's fine.

00:56:48.000 Sorry, Paige. 1.00

00:56:50.000 But see, a lot of motherfuckers like me, she still got those dick pics. 1.00

00:56:56.000 Of course, if she said it in a chain of tweets, but that one was by itself an individual tweet. 1.00

00:57:02.000 Most people like us just read that one and be like, yes! 0.99

00:57:05.000 You know how many dudes who don't have a shot are like, fuck yeah! 0.99

00:57:09.000 She's free! 0.99

00:57:10.000 Finally!

00:57:11.000 Some guys, if they're following a porn star and they find out the porn star is married, they get mad.

00:57:18.000 Right, like you had a chance.

00:57:20.000 But you know what? 1.00

00:57:21.000 A lot of porn stars will fuck a fan from time to time. 1.00

00:57:24.000 Oh, that's sweet. 0.99

00:57:25.000 Like as a promo thing.

00:57:26.000 Yeah!

00:57:27.000 They'll put it up like, hey, hey, met up with my fan. 1.00

00:57:29.000 Fucked him. 0.99

00:57:30.000 That's sweet. 0.99

00:57:31.000 Yeah, that is kind of thoughtful.

00:57:32.000 Very thoughtful.

00:57:33.000 It's like you're using your powers for good.

00:57:37.000 Nice.

00:57:38.000 Very charitable. 1.00

00:57:39.000 Charity fuck. 1.00

00:57:40.000 She probably stopped a school shooter or something. 1.00

00:57:42.000 How fast do those guys nut? 0.68

00:57:44.000 Probably immediately.

00:57:45.000 As soon as they touch it. 0.74

00:57:47.000 Because the other thing, too, is porn stars know how to... 1.00

00:57:55.000 Take away all the insecurity and all of that.

00:57:59.000 Because obviously those guys are coming in nervous.

00:58:02.000 Right.

00:58:02.000 And they're literally filming it.

00:58:04.000 Those poor guys must fall in love so hard.

00:58:06.000 Oh, of course.

00:58:07.000 Of course.

00:58:08.000 How's that?

00:58:09.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely.

00:58:10.000 The saddest. 1.00

00:58:10.000 Can you imagine never really getting laid and then all of a sudden the girl you've been fantasizing about will fuck you and it's on tape? 1.00

00:58:17.000 And it's your first one. 1.00

00:58:18.000 That's your first one.

00:58:19.000 The lady you've been jacking off to for the past five years.

00:58:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:58:22.000 Even though I never believe that someone's a virgin. 0.99

00:58:26.000 You don't believe it?

00:58:27.000 I don't believe that.

00:58:28.000 They might have been a virgin when they flew in, but their first time wasn't on camera.

00:58:33.000 You don't think so?

00:58:34.000 She probably gave them a handy off camera and then was like... 0.82

00:58:37.000 But what if they can't get it up a second time?

00:58:39.000 What if they've been beaten off all day like a maniac?

00:58:41.000 Well, the porn industry has a solution for all that. 1.00

00:58:44.000 Like a needle in your dick? 1.00

00:58:45.000 They'll inject you something. 1.00

00:58:46.000 They'll give you a pill.

00:58:47.000 If you don't believe it, Tom Segura has a list of videos I think he can show you that can give you examples of this.

00:58:53.000 Of them shooting?

00:58:54.000 No, there's just a website I know of that he knows of that it's like porn bloopers where all sorts of stuff that doesn't make it on to the normal videos.

00:59:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:03.000 It's like the cutting room floor scenes.

00:59:04.000 See, I don't like porn bloopers.

00:59:06.000 Yeah. 0.57

00:59:07.000 To me, it reminded me of when... 0.67

00:59:10.000 Remember growing up how the comedy TV shows were like Family Matters, Full House, these shows you were watching, how every now and then they would do a serious episode that would tell you to stay off drugs or some shit. 0.91

00:59:21.000 I hated that. 0.73

00:59:22.000 I didn't come here for that. 0.86

00:59:24.000 I ain't watching porn for laughs.

00:59:26.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:59:27.000 I'm trying to beat my dick and keep it moving. 1.00

00:59:28.000 I don't want to watch... 0.99

00:59:30.000 You know, or it's like when they break character.

00:59:32.000 I hate it when they giggle.

00:59:33.000 No, don't have fun.

00:59:37.000 Don't have fun. 1.00

00:59:40.000 You're there for serious fucking elements. 0.99

00:59:42.000 Thankfully for you, there's a lot of categories. 1.00

00:59:44.000 Is there anything on earth with more variety to choose from than porn?

00:59:49.000 Is that like the most...

00:59:50.000 If you think about like, if you looked at each individual clip that's available online as a one individual piece of work, Is there more porn than any other kind of content?

01:00:02.000 Yeah.

01:00:02.000 The only exception, the only thing that could even come close to hanging with porn is cat videos.

01:00:11.000 What about TikToks now?

01:00:13.000 TikToks are probably closing in.

01:00:14.000 TikTok is, everything on the internet is mostly porn and cats. 0.63

01:00:20.000 It's true.

01:00:21.000 There's a lot of puppy stuff too.

01:00:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:24.000 That's what drives tech.

01:00:25.000 Porn drives tech.

01:00:26.000 It's like the unspoken secret.

01:00:28.000 It really does.

01:00:29.000 It drives innovation in terms of like, it drove streaming.

01:00:32.000 VCRs wouldn't have existed if porn videos weren't getting sold everywhere.

01:00:35.000 If Betamax is one, everybody would have had a Betamax player.

01:00:38.000 Who streamed 4K first? 0.90

01:00:39.000 Porn.

01:00:40.000 Did they? 0.89

01:00:41.000 Yeah.

01:00:41.000 Porn was first with the 4K. Porn proliferated like the VR stuff.

01:00:46.000 You know what's interesting?

01:00:47.000 Industries get bailed out.

01:00:49.000 Like when things happen and they collapse because people say, well, we can't afford to let this industry die off.

01:00:56.000 Like the banking industry.

01:00:57.000 Everybody would lose their money.

01:00:59.000 We can't do that.

01:01:00.000 Like other industries have been bailed out too when things go wrong.

01:01:03.000 But when even like people complained about the music industry.

01:01:08.000 Remember when Napster came along?

01:01:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:10.000 Everybody was so upset.

01:01:12.000 So upset.

01:01:13.000 About Napster?

01:01:14.000 Yeah.

01:01:14.000 Because all of a sudden people are just taking that content for free.

01:01:17.000 But that happened to the porn industry. 1.00

01:01:18.000 No one said shit. 1.00

01:01:19.000 Tough shit. 1.00

01:01:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:20.000 It's like, everyone's pretending they don't use it. 1.00

01:01:23.000 But they flipped it.

01:01:24.000 They figured out how to bring it back around. 0.97

01:01:26.000 Because now, a lot of porn, what they'll do is, you know, they'll give you almost the whole video, and they'll cut it off at the cum shot.

01:01:36.000 They're like, if you want to see the rest of this...

01:01:38.000 Well, they'll get more traffic than they would without it, but still more people are going to watch it for free.

01:01:43.000 But I guess it's just like one of those things.

01:01:45.000 You catch as many fish as you can.

01:01:46.000 How much money do you think was spent on OnlyFans last year?

01:01:49.000 How much money was spent by fans?

01:01:51.000 Users spent on the platform last year.

01:01:53.000 I'm going to say over a billion dollars.

01:01:55.000 It's definitely over a billion dollars.

01:01:57.000 Wow!

01:01:58.000 I'm going to say three billion.

01:02:02.000 What?

01:02:03.000 I mean, I'm not surprised, but that's...

01:02:06.000 I'm surprised.

01:02:07.000 Really?

01:02:07.000 That's crazy.

01:02:08.000 $4.8 billion in one year.

01:02:12.000 Jamie, you were talking about this yesterday.

01:02:14.000 Are we going to reach a future where every girl's on OnlyFans? 0.99

01:02:17.000 Why wouldn't a young...

01:02:18.000 If you're 16 and they're like, college?

01:02:21.000 Where you're going to go $200,000 in debt?

01:02:23.000 Or do you want $200,000 in four years?

01:02:27.000 And what is your job? 0.92

01:02:28.000 What if you get a job out of college and it sucks? 0.99

01:02:31.000 No, a job that sucks. 0.98

01:02:33.000 You spend all that money on college? 0.96

01:02:35.000 Any woman that is remotely good-looking that's complaining about not having any money, I'm like... 1.00

01:02:40.000 Yeah, but they don't want to do that.

01:02:41.000 There's a lot of girls that don't want that. 1.00

01:02:43.000 I understand that, but if push come to shove... 0.99

01:02:46.000 Listen, nobody wants to be a whore. 0.99

01:02:50.000 There's also the line that we dug, or maybe someone else did, like the Bad Baby, the girl from Dr. Phil's show, she barely is showing anything, and she makes almost the most money of anyone. 0.96

01:03:00.000 Right, but she's wicked famous. 1.00

01:03:01.000 Is that the case with most of the girls that are making a lot of money? 1.00

01:03:04.000 How much is a lot of money?

01:03:05.000 That's the next arguable point.

01:03:07.000 Like, how much money do you need? 1.00

01:03:08.000 Or there's some couples, like a couple do it, like they fuck on camera, they cut their heads off, Right. 1.00

01:03:14.000 And they pay their bills. 1.00

01:03:15.000 Right.

01:03:16.000 They frame their heads out.

01:03:17.000 Right.

01:03:17.000 It's like a push come to shove.

01:03:19.000 It's like a decent proposal.

01:03:20.000 Right?

01:03:20.000 You remember that movie?

01:03:21.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:03:22.000 It's like, yo, babe, this dude wants to fuck you and it'll pay off our house and send our kids to college. 1.00

01:03:28.000 One time! 1.00

01:03:29.000 And I know you don't want to be a whore, but let's at least talk about it. 1.00

01:03:34.000 You know, like most women would be like, absolutely not. 1.00

01:03:36.000 But it's like, okay, wait a minute now.

01:03:38.000 We're going to pay off the house, babe.

01:03:40.000 What do you think would happen if prostitution was completely legal? 1.00

01:03:44.000 Well, first of all, it would make it safer for the sex workers. 0.99

01:03:48.000 100%.

01:03:48.000 Because it's one of those things that everyone pretends like they don't do or they don't participate in it.

01:03:53.000 Everyone watches porn.

01:03:56.000 At least every man watches porn.

01:03:58.000 Well, there's a lot of men who have sworn off of it because they realize they had a problem with it.

01:04:03.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 A lot of people talk about that now.

01:04:05.000 There's like a no porn movement among some guys because porn, I think, for a lot of people is like gambling.

01:04:11.000 You know, some people just get addicted and they're on it all the time and it frames the way they think about sex.

01:04:18.000 And then some people, they just decide because of that, I'd rather just have none.

01:04:25.000 No porn.

01:04:26.000 Yeah, I have a few friends that did that.

01:04:28.000 They don't watch porn.

01:04:30.000 It's not a bad move.

01:04:31.000 But it's nice to know it's there.

01:04:33.000 It's always going to be there.

01:04:36.000 It's the gambling argument, too.

01:04:39.000 Even less so, because everybody has sexual urges for the most part.

01:04:43.000 Not everybody has gambling urges.

01:04:44.000 One of the things I had to argue against, I had a debate thing in college, I had to argue that porn was not harm.

01:04:52.000 It was a big movement.

01:04:53.000 Porn, its existence is harmful to women. 1.00

01:04:58.000 Or that all the women in it are being exploited. 0.99

01:05:00.000 And to some degree that's true, but most of that is because, like you said, if prostitution was legal, it would cut back on all the exploitation.

01:05:07.000 The thing is you can't make it illegal because you can't take away a person's right to do whatever they want to do, like those couples.

01:05:14.000 Those couples that cut their heads off. 0.95

01:05:16.000 They frame their heads out so you don't see them.

01:05:18.000 That's 100% up to them.

01:05:20.000 You can't tell them they can't do that.

01:05:22.000 What about selling your body?

01:05:24.000 But also, why is it okay to give sex away for free, but it's not okay to pay for it?

01:05:30.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:05:31.000 I mean, it's also okay to pay for it indirectly.

01:05:34.000 Well, it's also okay to pay for massages. 1.00

01:05:37.000 Nobody wants to rub your fucking feet. 1.00

01:05:39.000 Right. 1.00

01:05:39.000 When someone rubs your feet and they get money for it. 1.00

01:05:42.000 Like, we allow people to do things they don't want to do that are pleasurable to other people.

01:05:46.000 Well, the thing is, listen, to me, I look at it just like, okay, it's illegal for me to give a politician money directly.

01:05:53.000 Right.

01:05:54.000 It's also illegal for me to buy them something.

01:05:57.000 Right.

01:05:57.000 Right?

01:05:58.000 But... 1.00

01:05:59.000 I can't pay a woman for pussy, but I can buy her something for pussy. 1.00

01:06:04.000 Well, you can pay her, she just can't report it. 1.00

01:06:07.000 Right.

01:06:08.000 Even though you should.

01:06:09.000 Did you know that you can still report illegal stuff to the IRS? Like, they encourage you to do so.

01:06:14.000 Really?

01:06:15.000 There's a form for ill-gotten gains.

01:06:18.000 That's interesting.

01:06:19.000 So they don't get you for tax evasion.

01:06:22.000 Exactly.

01:06:23.000 Which is worse.

01:06:25.000 And legally, technically, they can't use it against you.

01:06:27.000 Isn't that how they got Al Capone?

01:06:29.000 That is how they got Al Capone.

01:06:31.000 He's not the only one.

01:06:32.000 That's how they got Wesley Snipes. 0.98

01:06:34.000 But yeah, but Wesley Snipes wasn't a fucking criminal. 0.97

01:06:37.000 Wesley Snipes was just an actor who got bad advice. 0.98

01:06:40.000 Right, right.

01:06:42.000 Capone never fired a federal income tax return claiming that he had no taxable income.

01:06:46.000 That's hilarious.

01:06:48.000 That's hilarious.

01:06:48.000 They're not untrue, right?

01:06:50.000 I guess.

01:06:51.000 He had no taxable income, right?

01:06:53.000 IRS Special Agent Frank Wilson and the T-men followed the money, gathering evidence that Capone had made millions of dollars on income that was never taxed.

01:07:02.000 Yeah, so that's why the smart ones, like the Russians, they open businesses.

01:07:05.000 They buy businesses.

01:07:07.000 And they use those businesses to launder money. 0.99

01:07:09.000 Yeah, well, the smart rich people will...

01:07:12.000 These are criminals, not like just rich people.

01:07:15.000 Right.

01:07:16.000 We're talking about crime.

01:07:17.000 Ill-gotten gains.

01:07:18.000 And it's like, how did you get a paper trail back when it was Hollywood paper? 0.97

01:07:23.000 Well, he had houses and cars and fucking, you know, Al Capone was a flashy dude. 0.96

01:07:29.000 He was old school mafia, John Gotti style. 0.99

01:07:32.000 You know, he was the king of Chicago.

01:07:34.000 Yeah.

01:07:35.000 I can't imagine living like that, though.

01:07:36.000 That's a scary way to live.

01:07:37.000 Always looking over your shoulder, you know, always having to be afraid.

01:07:41.000 Because, you know, the old saying is like, if you're a criminal, you have to get lucky every day.

01:07:47.000 And the cops only got to get lucky once.

01:07:50.000 That you just gotta slip up one time, and the cop just happened to catch a detail or something, you know?

01:07:54.000 Well, you know the comedy store was owned by the mob.

01:07:57.000 Yeah, when it was Cero's, right?

01:07:58.000 Yeah.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, I hear that, but it's hard for me to tell, because I heard that from the same people that told me it was haunted.

01:08:03.000 It was Bugsy Siegel's.

01:08:04.000 Bugsy Siegel owned the comedy store.

01:08:07.000 Wow.

01:08:07.000 Didn't he make sure that's true?

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:09.000 Bugsy Siegel owned Cero's.

01:08:11.000 He at least was one of the owners.

01:08:12.000 Might have been multiple owners.

01:08:14.000 Is that what it was?

01:08:15.000 Yeah.

01:08:15.000 Mitzi was originally renting out just the OR. Well Mitzi took over long after Ciro's was gone and then another thing came after Ciro's and then Mitzi took it over after the other thing.

01:08:27.000 Okay.

01:08:27.000 Mitzi and her husband.

01:08:28.000 So they were never renting it from the mob?

01:08:30.000 I don't believe so.

01:08:31.000 Okay.

01:08:31.000 I think they owned the building.

01:08:34.000 It says it was owned by an entrepreneur, William Wilkerson, but then it says only to have control of the resort rested, maybe wrestled is what I was supposed to say, from him by mobster Bugsy Siegel.

01:08:44.000 Oh, so Bugsy Siegel took it from him.

01:08:46.000 Stole it.

01:08:47.000 That probably happened all the time. 0.99

01:08:49.000 Do you want to die? 0.85

01:08:50.000 Do you want to just give me your club? 1.00

01:08:51.000 You can open up another club, stupid. 1.00

01:08:52.000 Yeah, you can have it. 1.00

01:08:53.000 Yeah, they just would do that just to flex. 1.00

01:08:56.000 Take shit from you? 1.00

01:08:57.000 Just take shit from you. 1.00

01:08:58.000 What are you gonna do? 1.00

01:08:59.000 You can't do anything.

01:09:00.000 There's nothing you can do.

01:09:01.000 Nothing you can do. 0.99

01:09:02.000 They'll kill you.

01:09:03.000 Well, back then they owned the police. 0.94

01:09:04.000 They owned everybody.

01:09:05.000 I mean, when there was no real, like, no one was filming things.

01:09:11.000 Like, there's no DNA evidence.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Come on, man. 1.00

01:09:15.000 They just ran shit. 1.00

01:09:16.000 That's back when you could just go to jail from a hunch. 1.00

01:09:19.000 Do you know how many people are buried in the Nevada desert?

01:09:22.000 Look how they find these people in Lake Mead as Lake Mead dries up.

01:09:26.000 They're finding all these dead bodies.

01:09:27.000 They found six dead bodies down there and some of them are people that drowned.

01:09:31.000 One of them was a guy who drowned saving his son and his son remembered it.

01:09:34.000 Oh man.

01:09:35.000 His son's like a grown adult now and it's like scary.

01:09:39.000 But that's a great way to remember your dad.

01:09:40.000 I guess. 1.00

01:09:41.000 Yeah, your dad saved your fucking life. 1.00

01:09:43.000 I mean, there's worse ways. 1.00

01:09:44.000 There's worse ways. 0.99

01:09:45.000 But there's quite a few people, probably, that they haven't found in Lake Mead that just got fucking shot and dumped there. 0.97

01:09:52.000 One guy was dressed like from the 1970s. 0.98

01:09:54.000 They found him in a barrel.

01:09:57.000 You know what? 1.00

01:09:57.000 They probably find a lot of motherfuckers if they demolish one of them casinos. 1.00

01:10:00.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:10:01.000 Under the cement?

01:10:02.000 Yeah.

01:10:03.000 For sure.

01:10:04.000 There's a lot of bodies down there.

01:10:05.000 For sure.

01:10:06.000 For sure.

01:10:06.000 They did that just for a goof.

01:10:08.000 That's what Mikey is. 1.00

01:10:08.000 That cocksucker. 1.00

01:10:09.000 That fucking rat. 1.00

01:10:11.000 We buried him right here. 1.00

01:10:12.000 For sure.

01:10:13.000 Do you think the mob still exists?

01:10:16.000 100%.

01:10:17.000 Just not as powerful?

01:10:18.000 Well, they probably have learned from their mistakes.

01:10:21.000 You know, they probably do it in a way that's a little bit more clever.

01:10:25.000 Right, yeah.

01:10:26.000 Like, the problem with the way John Gotti did it, like, that was, like, when people think about the mob, they think of John Gotti. 0.99

01:10:31.000 And walk around in those expensive suits and shit. 0.99

01:10:33.000 The problem with that is, like, he was in front of everybody's face. 1.00

01:10:36.000 Like, everybody knew it. 0.74

01:10:37.000 Whereas, like, Vincent the Chin Gigante, he would walk around in a bathrobe like he was crazy. 0.99

01:10:42.000 And he would talk to himself. 0.51

01:10:44.000 And he'd walk around the neighborhood like he was schizophrenic.

01:10:47.000 And that was his hustle.

01:10:48.000 That's how they would say, he's running the mob. 0.99

01:10:50.000 They're like, what, this crazy guy? 0.98

01:10:51.000 Talking to himself? 0.92

01:10:53.000 That's hilarious.

01:10:53.000 The way they caught him is they put microphones.

01:10:57.000 They knew the way he walked, the route.

01:11:00.000 So they put microphones.

01:11:01.000 They parked their own cars there and put microphones in all these different cars. 0.99

01:11:05.000 So as he walked by, they could record all the different shit that he was saying. 1.00

01:11:09.000 Damn. 1.00

01:11:09.000 So he's ordering hits. 1.00

01:11:11.000 I thought he was going to be like...

01:11:13.000 They did it with bees or, like, hornets. 1.00

01:11:16.000 And as soon as one get in his face, like, motherfucker! 1.00

01:11:18.000 Like, he just started talking straight. 1.00

01:11:20.000 Son of a bitch, who the fuck? 1.00

01:11:22.000 Have you ever seen that video of the dude who's a newscaster, this black guy? 1.00

01:11:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:28.000 That's one of the OG classic.

01:11:30.000 That's one of the classic videos.

01:11:32.000 He's got the full broadcaster voice going. 1.00

01:11:35.000 Motherfucker! 1.00

01:11:36.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

01:11:38.000 On that Thursday here at Augusta High School that led to Chris Wood's death...

01:11:49.000 It's amazing.

01:11:50.000 This is one of the best things on the internet ever.

01:11:52.000 It's amazing.

01:11:53.000 But here's the thing. 0.99

01:11:54.000 It's like, why can't someone just be themselves and tell you the fucking news? 0.97

01:11:59.000 If that's who that guy really is, why do I need him to pretend that he is neutral broadcast voice man? 0.98

01:12:06.000 I don't know where the broadcast voice came from.

01:12:08.000 Oh, actually, you know what?

01:12:09.000 I have a theory, and I might be right about this.

01:12:12.000 I think it came from when microphones weren't as good and you had to enunciate very clearly.

01:12:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:23.000 Because when I was in the service, we had to be like, we had to say over the radio, we had to say numbers a certain way, like five was fife.

01:12:32.000 Like you had to say it like that so that it got through. 0.99

01:12:36.000 Crackles and shit. 0.99

01:12:37.000 So I'm guessing that came from those times when Brock went out. 0.99

01:12:40.000 But I don't know.

01:12:40.000 It might have also come from the theater where you had to talk really loud because there was people in the back of the room where there was no microphone.

01:12:46.000 So your earliest performances, like live performances, were theaters probably.

01:12:51.000 Or when someone was speaking in front of a large group of people.

01:12:54.000 And when you're speaking in front of a large group of people, you have to talk like this so they can hear you.

01:13:01.000 Well, I wonder...

01:13:02.000 I'm sure somebody will hit me up.

01:13:03.000 Somebody email me and tell me the answer.

01:13:05.000 Yeah, recording equipment has something to do with it.

01:13:07.000 Yeah?

01:13:08.000 Yes.

01:13:09.000 What do they still do?

01:13:10.000 What about the way they used to act in the old, old movies?

01:13:13.000 Were they overacted?

01:13:15.000 Oh, that voice was... 1.00

01:13:17.000 So a lot of things we do that don't make sense, it was just, fuck the English. 0.99

01:13:23.000 Yeah, so the reason we spell certain words differently and all that, that was on purpose. 0.97

01:13:28.000 It didn't just happen naturally.

01:13:30.000 And our old TV voice was a counter to their...

01:13:36.000 Hello. 0.99

01:13:38.000 Yeah, it was our version of their fucking highfalutin... 0.99

01:13:41.000 What do they call it over there? 0.99

01:13:42.000 Posh. 1.00

01:13:43.000 Posh. 1.00

01:13:44.000 Yeah, it was a counter to their poshness. 1.00

01:13:45.000 We had our own posh voice, and it was that fucking... 0.99

01:13:49.000 Early TV voice. 0.99

01:13:50.000 That's interesting.

01:13:51.000 That kind of makes sense.

01:13:52.000 Because everyone talked like that back then.

01:13:54.000 Or they tried to.

01:13:55.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.000 And then you've got Australian, which is like a drunk English. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:59.000 Wasn't you telling me about this?

01:14:01.000 No.

01:14:01.000 Someone told me about this and maybe I told you after they told me.

01:14:04.000 No, no.

01:14:04.000 Somebody else told me.

01:14:05.000 No, it was Shane Gillis was telling us.

01:14:06.000 That's right.

01:14:07.000 That first it was criminals.

01:14:10.000 Yeah.

01:14:11.000 And the babies would see their fathers be drunk.

01:14:13.000 Yeah.

01:14:14.000 And the baby started talking like their drunk English fathers. 0.58

01:14:18.000 And then that became the Australian accent.

01:14:21.000 That's hilarious.

01:14:22.000 Which I'm not sure if he was 100% sure that was it, but that was one of the theories.

01:14:26.000 But I'm gonna go with that.

01:14:27.000 Well, it is interesting how accents deviate, right?

01:14:30.000 It's like, who was the first guy to talk like someone from Boston?

01:14:34.000 And why did everybody copy that dude?

01:14:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:37.000 You know, the pack your fucking car. 1.00

01:14:39.000 Get over here, Brian Simpson. 1.00

01:14:41.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:14:42.000 It doesn't have to be that far away. 1.00

01:14:44.000 No.

01:14:46.000 Distinctive Australian accent is the result of a drunken slur caused by the heavy drinking of the early settlers, according to a communications expert from the country.

01:14:54.000 So it's true.

01:14:54.000 It's not just about pronunciation, vocal quality, or timbre matters, as does intonation, the way the pitch of the voice rises and falls.

01:15:08.000 Vocal quality or timbre manners as does intonation.

01:15:11.000 So that's what it is.

01:15:14.000 All right, mate. 0.98

01:15:15.000 It's fucking better. 0.98

01:15:16.000 And then New Zealand is right there and it's a completely different... 0.99

01:15:19.000 Totally different.

01:15:20.000 Well, also, look at the states.

01:15:22.000 You could drive from one state to another state in the United States and they'd talk differently.

01:15:26.000 Yeah.

01:15:26.000 I used to have a joke about it about California.

01:15:28.000 Like, people make fun of California accent.

01:15:30.000 I'm like, I'm sorry, we enunciate clearly.

01:15:32.000 Like, the California accent is talking like you could hear every word.

01:15:36.000 Oh, right, right.

01:15:37.000 And even within California.

01:15:40.000 Well, in California, there's different accents. 0.99

01:15:42.000 There's a lot of people that have kind of like a southern accent as you get into those farmlands and shit. 0.98

01:15:46.000 Oh, yeah. 0.88

01:15:47.000 And then think, you can go from Vermont to Boston to New York to Philly to D.C. to Georgia to Alabama to Florida, and it's all different accents.

01:15:59.000 You know?

01:16:00.000 All different.

01:16:01.000 Well, Florida's a mess, right?

01:16:02.000 Because you got Florida accents, but like, what percentage of Florida is people that move from the East Coast, from the Upper East Coast?

01:16:09.000 A lot.

01:16:10.000 A lot.

01:16:11.000 More now than ever before.

01:16:12.000 But even when I lived there, there was a lot of people that came from other places that came to Florida.

01:16:17.000 People would escape the cold.

01:16:18.000 My favorite accent is Louisiana.

01:16:21.000 That's a good accent.

01:16:22.000 New Orleans.

01:16:23.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:23.000 That's a good accent.

01:16:24.000 Because every...

01:16:24.000 It's such a...

01:16:26.000 It's a lot of flavor.

01:16:29.000 Jazz.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:31.000 Jazz to it.

01:16:31.000 I like to watch the chefs on social media.

01:16:34.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:16:35.000 Like, go on there and hit it with your seasoning there, now.

01:16:36.000 Yeah, when they're talking about Cajun cuisine, too.

01:16:39.000 Yeah.

01:16:39.000 Oh, those guys.

01:16:40.000 Or like Punky Johnson.

01:16:41.000 You know Punky?

01:16:42.000 Sure, I know Punky.

01:16:42.000 Yeah, so Punky just...

01:16:44.000 Her story is incredible, but she from New Orleans is like, the way she talked to you, it just makes you feel good.

01:16:51.000 Yeah.

01:16:52.000 We talked about Punky when we were at the O2, remember?

01:16:54.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:55.000 I love her.

01:16:56.000 I love Punky.

01:16:57.000 I'm so happy for her.

01:16:58.000 I remember her, so she's on SNL now, but I remember when she first got her big TV thing, and I remember watching her on TV... While she was working the bar underneath.

01:17:13.000 That's wild.

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 A lot of people don't realize there's no big break anymore.

01:17:18.000 It's a bunch of little breaks.

01:17:20.000 Sometimes you get a big break, but you're better off with little breaks.

01:17:22.000 Yeah.

01:17:23.000 Because if you get little breaks, you can handle a big break. 0.99

01:17:25.000 A big break will fuck your head up if it happens all of a sudden. 0.94

01:17:28.000 That's why these 20-year-old stars, good luck. 0.98

01:17:32.000 Yeah, I felt bad for them.

01:17:33.000 How do you...

01:17:34.000 Even worse is when they're kids.

01:17:36.000 That's the worst.

01:17:37.000 Growing up a star is like a recipe for mental health problems.

01:17:41.000 It's child abuse.

01:17:42.000 It's like there's very few, like Jodie Foster. 1.00

01:17:44.000 I never talked to her, but she seems like she's got her shit together. 0.94

01:17:47.000 There's very few people that were very famous. 0.99

01:17:49.000 And Jodie Foster was in fucking Taxi Driver. 1.00

01:17:51.000 Think about that creepy movie, right? 0.99

01:17:54.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:54.000 Think about that creepy movie.

01:17:55.000 She was sexualized when she was very, very young in that movie. 1.00

01:17:59.000 Or what happened to the kid from...

01:18:02.000 From The Professional.

01:18:04.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:18:06.000 I don't know.

01:18:07.000 That movie... 1.00

01:18:07.000 That's a heavy fucking movie. 1.00

01:18:08.000 This would be one of my favorite movies, but try to watch it now, and it's like, this is... 0.99

01:18:12.000 Natalie Portman.

01:18:13.000 Oh, Natalie Portman.

01:18:14.000 Oh, well.

01:18:14.000 Yeah.

01:18:15.000 She's huge.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:18:17.000 That was her.

01:18:18.000 She was really young then.

01:18:19.000 What was she... 0.93

01:18:19.000 How old was she then? 0.93

01:18:20.000 Oh, my God.

01:18:21.000 She's a little kid.

01:18:21.000 Yeah.

01:18:22.000 That's a crazy movie.

01:18:23.000 And she's, like, flirting with him through the whole movie.

01:18:26.000 Right.

01:18:27.000 He doesn't flirt back, though, right?

01:18:28.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:18:29.000 That's okay.

01:18:32.000 My kids are allowed to pretend.

01:18:34.000 Yeah, but it was like, I think maybe, is it better to be a child star and stay a star or to just do it real quick and leave?

01:18:42.000 Well, it depends.

01:18:43.000 If you can do it real quick and then find something else that you really enjoy, that's great.

01:18:47.000 And then be successful at it, that's great.

01:18:49.000 But you remember when Gary Coleman was a security guard?

01:18:52.000 Oh yeah. 0.99

01:18:53.000 He had to get a regular job and people would fuck with him. 0.99

01:18:55.000 He was super duper famous and very recognizable. 0.98

01:18:59.000 Want some coffee?

01:19:00.000 Or you want some whiskey?

01:19:01.000 No, no, a little coffee.

01:19:02.000 I'm gonna do both actually.

01:19:03.000 You ever watch Game of Thrones?

01:19:07.000 Yes!

01:19:08.000 Okay, you know the Joffrey kid?

01:19:10.000 Yes.

01:19:10.000 He just dipped out.

01:19:12.000 Good for him.

01:19:12.000 After that, he was like, I don't want to do this anymore.

01:19:14.000 So he's done acting totally?

01:19:16.000 I... That's the impression I got, but...

01:19:18.000 Bro, imagine your first role. 1.00

01:19:20.000 You have to play the cunt of all cunts. 1.00

01:19:22.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:19:22.000 And then when you die, you get poisoned. 1.00

01:19:24.000 Everybody's happy. 0.95

01:19:25.000 Dude, and I hate it. 1.00

01:19:26.000 And here's what's so fucked up. 0.99

01:19:28.000 I've read the books. 0.99

01:19:30.000 And I'll never forget being in...

01:19:32.000 Because you got to understand, too.

01:19:34.000 In this show, in these books...

01:19:37.000 There's no justice. 1.00

01:19:39.000 So he's the first motherfucker that you hope died that dies. 1.00

01:19:43.000 Everyone else that died before that, you like them. 1.00

01:19:45.000 You don't want them to die. 1.00

01:19:46.000 But he's the first motherfucker who is like... 1.00

01:19:47.000 So I'm in the middle of an open mic reading these books. 0.99

01:19:51.000 Someone's on stage, and I apologize profusely to this day. 1.00

01:19:54.000 But when he died, I lost my shit. 0.99

01:19:58.000 I was like, yeah! 1.00

01:19:59.000 I'm in the middle of it.

01:20:01.000 I'm like, yeah! 1.00

01:20:01.000 Die, motherfucker! 1.00

01:20:03.000 Oh, that's so crazy! 1.00

01:20:04.000 I know, man. 0.99

01:20:05.000 I wanted him to die so bad. 1.00

01:20:06.000 So I hated this motherfucker from the beginning. 1.00

01:20:08.000 And he played the role so well, it's hard to... 1.00

01:20:12.000 If I saw him in person...

01:20:14.000 You would think of him as that guy.

01:20:15.000 Well, I mean, initially, you know, I mean, obviously...

01:20:17.000 A little bit.

01:20:18.000 Yeah, I would try not to treat him that way, but it's still hard. 1.00

01:20:21.000 It's like, nah, motherfucker, your face is associated with evil. 1.00

01:20:24.000 Right. 1.00

01:20:25.000 Well, some guys, they do a role, and that role is them forever.

01:20:28.000 Like Archie Bunker with Carol O'Connor.

01:20:31.000 He was Archie Bunker forever.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, I think what he's gonna do...

01:20:34.000 That's him now?

01:20:34.000 Yeah, he just got married.

01:20:35.000 That's Joffrey?

01:20:36.000 Yeah.

01:20:36.000 That's Joffrey.

01:20:37.000 Wow.

01:20:37.000 See, I think he's gonna come back as an adult.

01:20:40.000 He looks like a country western star.

01:20:42.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 He looks like some cool guy who, like, you know...

01:20:45.000 Plays country western music with Sturgill Simpson.

01:20:48.000 Doesn't he?

01:20:49.000 Doesn't he?

01:20:49.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:20:50.000 He totally does.

01:20:51.000 Like a completely different person.

01:20:52.000 Good for him.

01:20:53.000 Good for him.

01:20:53.000 Stay normal.

01:20:54.000 Look, he's in church and shit. 1.00

01:20:56.000 I gotta imagine just psychologically being a kid and playing a very, very hated character. 0.99

01:21:02.000 You don't have any bright moments on stage where people like you.

01:21:07.000 You have nothing to be proud of. 0.99

01:21:08.000 Everything you do is horrible and awful. 0.77

01:21:10.000 That's my dream, though. 0.96

01:21:11.000 Be an evil person?

01:21:12.000 No, to play one.

01:21:14.000 In a movie or a TV show?

01:21:15.000 I want to play a villain in something.

01:21:17.000 I want to play a villain so bad.

01:21:19.000 Interesting.

01:21:20.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 Why is that interesting?

01:21:23.000 He giving me the judgmental act?

01:21:24.000 I'm just interested.

01:21:26.000 What about it is appealing to you?

01:21:28.000 I think...

01:21:29.000 Because there's a part of you that wants to...

01:21:37.000 It's a fantasy.

01:21:38.000 There's a part of you that wants to play the villain.

01:21:40.000 When I play RPG video games or whatever, if there's a dark or night side, I always play the dark side.

01:21:49.000 So maybe there's a part of you that wants to live that fantasy, but I just think I would do better.

01:21:58.000 I think it's easier to play a bad guy, and I think I would do better at it.

01:22:02.000 But you're such a nice guy in real life.

01:22:07.000 I'm kind.

01:22:08.000 I'm not nice. 0.99

01:22:10.000 I make that distinction too because I have to stop myself from being a piece of shit. 0.99

01:22:20.000 From being mean? 1.00

01:22:21.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 That's a natural inclination, though.

01:22:23.000 My first thought is to be mean.

01:22:25.000 Do you know that Jordan Peterson has this whole saying about becoming hyper-competitive, you know, that people think that you should be docile.

01:22:34.000 And he's like, no, you should be a monster and then learn how to control it.

01:22:37.000 Yeah, I heard him say that.

01:22:39.000 I like that.

01:22:39.000 Yeah, just be ruthlessly ambitious and learn how to rein it in.

01:22:45.000 And his take on it is...

01:22:48.000 A strong man is not a dangerous man.

01:22:51.000 A weak man is a dangerous man because they'll fold on you.

01:22:55.000 They have no character.

01:22:56.000 They have no confidence.

01:22:58.000 And also, them being kind or them being pacifists, they don't have an option.

01:23:05.000 They can't beat people up.

01:23:06.000 They can't do anything.

01:23:07.000 So them being mean, that's not even possible.

01:23:11.000 Physically, especially.

01:23:12.000 I have an aversion to Shaky people. 1.00

01:23:17.000 Shaky people are dangerous.

01:23:18.000 They'll fall apart on you.

01:23:19.000 Or even people that are...

01:23:23.000 You know, kind of chaotic, you know, fall apart.

01:23:26.000 Yeah.

01:23:26.000 Yeah, it was like, I don't know, because I had such a chaotic upbringing, and it's like, especially men.

01:23:31.000 When I meet men that are, like, unpredictable, I'm like, I can't fuck with you. 0.87

01:23:34.000 You might be the best guy, you might be a nice guy, but, like, I need distance from you, because there's no telling what you're going to do. 0.99

01:23:39.000 Right.

01:23:40.000 Yeah, you're going to fold.

01:23:41.000 Right.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:23:43.000 Because I get what he's saying.

01:23:44.000 It's like, if you're nice because you're weak, you're just being nice because you don't have a choice.

01:23:51.000 Right.

01:23:52.000 Somebody that could destroy you that chooses not to is more impressive than somebody that isn't doing harm because they can't.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, it's strength through kindness.

01:24:01.000 Kindness through strength, rather.

01:24:03.000 You choose to be nice.

01:24:05.000 You choose to be the person who takes the high road and things.

01:24:10.000 Because you can go either way.

01:24:13.000 That's why when you see very famous people going after other famous people or going after someone who's not famous, it's always very distasteful.

01:24:22.000 Because this person is in this unusual position of strength and they don't use it the right way.

01:24:28.000 There's like a different obligation you have if you're in an unusual position of strength than a person who's just weak.

01:24:35.000 See, my first instinct is to always be suspicious of those people.

01:24:40.000 Weak people or strong people?

01:24:41.000 People that are trying to destroy people.

01:24:44.000 That's their whole thing.

01:24:46.000 Their whole life is trying to destroy people.

01:24:51.000 I'm always suspicious because they always turn out. 1.00

01:24:54.000 To be a piece of shit. 1.00

01:24:56.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:56.000 For sure. 1.00

01:24:56.000 They just want to hurt people. 1.00

01:24:58.000 If that's where you put your resources in, is destroying other people, imagine you have so little time in this life. 0.99

01:25:04.000 You know how every time there's a politician whose whole thing is they hate gays, and they always turn out to be gay. 0.93

01:25:14.000 But people forget that applies to everything.

01:25:18.000 If you're vehemently, if your whole personality is that you're against something, That's always suspicious to me.

01:25:25.000 And it doesn't always turn out to be the case.

01:25:27.000 Right, but it's very often the case.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:30.000 That's like the male feminist that's secretly a piece of shit. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:25:35.000 There's a lot of those guys. 0.99

01:25:36.000 The gender traitor male feminists who just want to shoot down other men to make themselves look better. 1.00

01:25:41.000 There's a lot of that. 0.97

01:25:43.000 And there's women that do that, too. 1.00

01:25:45.000 It's a human inclination to try to diminish other people.

01:25:50.000 To, at least in appearance, advance yourself.

01:25:53.000 You know, but it doesn't really work.

01:25:55.000 It's one of those things like name-dropping.

01:25:57.000 Like, name-dropping doesn't work.

01:25:59.000 Like, yeah, we're hanging out with Leonardo DiCaprio and Quentin Tarantino. 0.99

01:26:02.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:26:04.000 Nobody wants to hear that. 1.00

01:26:05.000 You know, like, you could tell a story...

01:26:07.000 If it's a great story, they're like, dude, I'm hanging out with Gary Clark Jr., and we're getting high.

01:26:12.000 Like, that's a great story.

01:26:14.000 It's not even a name drop.

01:26:15.000 It's just a factual story, right?

01:26:16.000 But if you're telling people, these people that you know, you're dropping names to try to elevate you socially, it has the opposite effect.

01:26:24.000 It's weird. 1.00

01:26:24.000 It has the opposite effect, because whoever those people are, you're trying to connect yourself to a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:26:30.000 But the way you're doing it lets everyone know you're not a bad motherfucker, nor do you have the character to become one. 0.99

01:26:37.000 Right. 0.99

01:26:38.000 It's one step down from like, do you know who my father is?

01:26:41.000 It's right there.

01:26:41.000 Yeah.

01:26:42.000 It's kind of the same thing.

01:26:43.000 Or do you know who I am?

01:26:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:46.000 Yeah.

01:26:46.000 Same thing.

01:26:47.000 Which I think in certain situations, like if someone tries to pick a fight with Hoist Gracie, it might be justified.

01:26:53.000 Right.

01:26:53.000 He goes, excuse me.

01:26:54.000 Do you know who I am?

01:26:56.000 Or like if you're about to go on stage at the O2 arena and somebody stops you right before you walk on stage?

01:27:02.000 What happened to you?

01:27:03.000 They just didn't...

01:27:04.000 First of all, they were English folks.

01:27:07.000 They probably don't know too much about Americans.

01:27:10.000 Americans stand up or... 1.00

01:27:11.000 They probably didn't even know who the fuck I was. 0.99

01:27:13.000 The guy did apologize to me, but I'm never going to stop being so mad. 1.00

01:27:18.000 Dude, the lady checked my shit. 1.00

01:27:19.000 I was trying to go to the bathroom. 0.99

01:27:21.000 Do you have a pass?

01:27:22.000 I go, I'm Joe Rogan.

01:27:24.000 Right, right.

01:27:24.000 This place is sold out.

01:27:25.000 You see how that whole wall has my face on it?

01:27:30.000 Yeah, that's this.

01:27:30.000 Hey, that wall.

01:27:32.000 It's like, come on, lady. 1.00

01:27:33.000 I gotta take a shit. 1.00

01:27:34.000 Let me through. 1.00

01:27:34.000 Well, you know what it is? 1.00

01:27:36.000 For some people, it's just an honest mistake or whatever.

01:27:38.000 Yeah, it was an honest mistake with her.

01:27:39.000 Or they really don't know who you are or whatever.

01:27:41.000 But some people...

01:27:44.000 And this is part of the reason that turned me off from the services.

01:27:49.000 Like, some people, they use the rules as a shield.

01:27:56.000 Yes.

01:27:58.000 Because it's one thing, like, okay, it's my show at the arena.

01:28:03.000 My picture's everywhere.

01:28:04.000 I walk up on you.

01:28:05.000 You notice me.

01:28:06.000 You don't recognize me.

01:28:07.000 You can't see the picture.

01:28:08.000 And then I go, hey...

01:28:10.000 I'm this person.

01:28:11.000 It's my show. 1.00

01:28:12.000 Now, from that point forward, if you continue to go, yeah, but now you're just an idiot that's hiding behind the rules because you know that even though what you're doing doesn't make any sense... 1.00

01:28:24.000 You're protected because you followed the rules. 0.99

01:28:27.000 Well, it is also a thing when people have power over you, they don't want to relinquish it.

01:28:31.000 Even if they just have a little bit of power to keep you from going through somewhere.

01:28:34.000 They've already committed to this idea.

01:28:36.000 They're going to stop you from doing something.

01:28:38.000 You know the Stanford prison experiment?

01:28:41.000 I'm...

01:28:42.000 Somewhat familiar with it, but yeah.

01:28:43.000 I don't know.

01:28:45.000 I think it's been questioned recently.

01:28:47.000 So I think there's some doubt about whether or not it made sense the way they did or whether people played it up.

01:28:53.000 But what happened was they got these students to pretend to be prison guards and prisoners. 0.98

01:28:59.000 And they ran this experiment where the prisoners were, you know, they had to listen to the guards and everybody immediately became a cunt. 1.00

01:29:06.000 Treated people like dog shit. 1.00

01:29:07.000 And they stopped the experiment early. 1.00

01:29:10.000 What was the pushback on that?

01:29:13.000 See if we can find it.

01:29:14.000 They did a movie about it, right?

01:29:17.000 Or a documentary about it.

01:29:19.000 I think there's a thing that people do when they have the ability.

01:29:23.000 It's like a natural inclination.

01:29:24.000 People have been in control of people for so long, whether it's a dictator that controls the population or a general that controls the army or a plantation owner that controls the slaves.

01:29:35.000 There's always been people controlling people forever.

01:29:37.000 And you know what they would do?

01:29:38.000 They would give one of the slaves A gun. 1.00

01:29:42.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:29:43.000 And have him be the overseer. 1.00

01:29:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:46.000 And then now you have power.

01:29:48.000 It's like, you have a gun now.

01:29:51.000 But now you have power over everyone else.

01:29:55.000 Overseer.

01:29:55.000 Isn't that in KRS-One, The Sound of the Police?

01:29:58.000 Oh, probably, yeah.

01:30:01.000 That song.

01:30:04.000 I was in Brazil in 2003 for the Abu Dhabi World Championships.

01:30:10.000 For kickboxing?

01:30:11.000 No, Abu Dhabi World Championships for Jiu Jitsu.

01:30:14.000 Eddie Bravo was over there competing.

01:30:16.000 That was the year that he tapped out Hoyler Gracie.

01:30:18.000 It was the craziest upset ever.

01:30:21.000 It was insane.

01:30:22.000 Insane.

01:30:23.000 In Brazil.

01:30:23.000 Is that what blew him up?

01:30:25.000 100%, man.

01:30:26.000 He wasn't even a black belt yet.

01:30:27.000 Eddie was a brown belt.

01:30:28.000 And he tapped out Hoyce Gracie?

01:30:30.000 Hoyler.

01:30:30.000 Oh, Hoyler Gracie.

01:30:31.000 Hoyler, who was Hoyce's brother, who was more successful even than Hoyce in jiu-jitsu tournaments.

01:30:38.000 He's like one of the greatest Gracies of all time in terms of his accomplishments in winning world jiu-jitsu tournaments.

01:30:44.000 He was the man.

01:30:45.000 What did he tap him with?

01:30:46.000 A triangle off his back.

01:30:47.000 It was amazing.

01:30:49.000 It was amazing.

01:30:50.000 When he locked it in, he went for an omoplata.

01:30:54.000 Hoyler defended the omoplata and exposed his side.

01:30:57.000 And Eddie had, like we were talking about legs that can move like hands.

01:31:00.000 That's Eddie's legs.

01:31:01.000 He has crazy leg dexterity.

01:31:03.000 He can do a lotus position.

01:31:05.000 He can just put himself in a lotus position.

01:31:09.000 B.J. Penn can do that, too.

01:31:10.000 Really?

01:31:11.000 They don't have to use their hands.

01:31:13.000 Like, Eddie Bravo can put his legs behind his head.

01:31:15.000 He has crazy flexibility in leg dexterity.

01:31:18.000 It's very surprising. 1.00

01:31:20.000 So if you're in his guard, you're fucked. 1.00

01:31:22.000 And Hoyler didn't know it. 1.00

01:31:23.000 And he was in Eddie's guard, and Eddie just slapped that triangle on him, and then started pulling the head, and then Hoyler tapped, and it was insane.

01:31:32.000 I was crying.

01:31:34.000 Oh, man.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, I can't imagine. 1.00

01:31:36.000 Shit. 1.00

01:31:37.000 I'll cry right now. 1.00

01:31:38.000 Did he even know?

01:31:40.000 Did he think he was gonna win?

01:31:42.000 He had already beat Gustavo Dantes, who was also a world champion.

01:31:47.000 He tapped him before that.

01:31:49.000 That was his first match.

01:31:50.000 He got his back and tapped him.

01:31:53.000 And then he had this big match with Hoyler and they shut off all the other matches and put all the cameras on this one thing.

01:32:01.000 So this footage?

01:32:02.000 Yes!

01:32:03.000 Oh, I want to see it.

01:32:04.000 Yes, you want to see it?

01:32:04.000 Yeah.

01:32:05.000 It's one of the greatest experiences of my life.

01:32:09.000 I get emotional right now.

01:32:11.000 Yeah, because I can't even imagine.

01:32:13.000 See, that's real love for your homie.

01:32:16.000 For you to get that emotional because he won?

01:32:19.000 It changed his life.

01:32:20.000 Yeah, man.

01:32:21.000 Because he was always this super talented guy.

01:32:24.000 And he and I would talk about it.

01:32:27.000 He would talk about all these jujitsu wizards and all these people that were super talented. 1.00

01:32:30.000 I'd go, dude, you're a fucking wizard. 0.99

01:32:33.000 I'm like, you're really fucking good. 1.00

01:32:35.000 Like, really good. 0.98

01:32:37.000 And he didn't want to kind of believe it.

01:32:40.000 For some strange reason.

01:32:41.000 He was very humble about his jiu-jitsu.

01:32:43.000 He knew he was pretty good.

01:32:44.000 And then he started winning tournaments.

01:32:46.000 And he won the Abu Dhabi's and then the West Coast trials.

01:32:51.000 And so he made it to Brazil. 0.99

01:32:53.000 And so this is him against Hoyler Gracie, who is the fucking man. 0.98

01:32:57.000 And Hoyler's on top of him, right? 0.98

01:32:59.000 Now, Hoyler has gotten to side control, but Eddie does this thing called the jailbreak.

01:33:02.000 Look how he retains guard.

01:33:04.000 It's the brilliant use of his legs, because again, he has this insane leg dexterity.

01:33:09.000 So here, Hoyler is defending, and then he catches him.

01:33:13.000 See that? 0.99

01:33:14.000 Because Eddie had his wrist, and it looked like he was trying to set up an omoplata, and then he locks him up in a fucking triangle. 0.99

01:33:19.000 And look at him squeezing. 1.00

01:33:20.000 Hoyler is fucked. 1.00

01:33:21.000 And he's trying to get out here. 1.00

01:33:23.000 But Eddie's...

01:33:24.000 This is just death.

01:33:25.000 And then Eddie finally grabs the head.

01:33:26.000 And when he grabs the head with the squeeze, Hoyler's tapping.

01:33:29.000 And that's it.

01:33:30.000 And so Eddie walks up, and this is what he said.

01:33:32.000 He said he couldn't believe it, but he walked around with his arms up in the air like he knew it was going to happen.

01:33:36.000 But while he was walking around, like he...

01:33:39.000 He did a play-by-play of it on my podcast.

01:33:41.000 And while he was walking around, he's like, I can't believe it.

01:33:44.000 I can't believe it.

01:33:45.000 And Hoyler hugs him.

01:33:46.000 And then he looks at me and he goes like this.

01:33:49.000 Like, huh.

01:33:50.000 It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life.

01:33:54.000 Because for him to go there, he was such an underdog.

01:33:57.000 And he had this very strange style of jujitsu that really he formulated.

01:34:02.000 He came up with, it's not like he invented submissions, but he came up with new ways to set things up that were completely unique to him and his system.

01:34:11.000 And that's how he created 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu.

01:34:13.000 It's a very well thought out, really effective system, especially if you have leg dexterity.

01:34:19.000 That's me and him.

01:34:20.000 We're hugging. 1.00

01:34:21.000 Holy shit, man. 1.00

01:34:23.000 He's crying on my shoulders. 1.00

01:34:24.000 There are few things better than watching somebody triumph.

01:34:28.000 It's amazing. 0.99

01:34:30.000 Goddamn. 0.99

01:34:32.000 It was crazy, because you couldn't believe it. 0.99

01:34:34.000 You couldn't believe it happened.

01:34:47.000 Oh, that's him talking about it, yeah.

01:34:50.000 Going over it.

01:34:50.000 So that was the birth of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu.

01:34:52.000 And then he came back.

01:34:54.000 John-Jacques Machado gave him his black belt.

01:34:57.000 John-Jacques took his black belt off.

01:34:59.000 After this match?

01:35:00.000 After that match.

01:35:01.000 And put it on Eddie.

01:35:02.000 Whoa.

01:35:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:04.000 Goddamn! 1.00

01:35:07.000 It was wild, man. 1.00

01:35:08.000 It was wild.

01:35:10.000 So then Eddie started 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu shortly afterwards.

01:35:15.000 Does he say that's the best day of his life?

01:35:18.000 It was one of the best days of his life.

01:35:19.000 One of the best days of my life.

01:35:21.000 It was amazing.

01:35:23.000 And then he came back.

01:35:24.000 I think he was going to call it like Sumerian Jiu-Jitsu or something like that.

01:35:28.000 I forget because the joke was like back then Eddie and I would smoke a lot of weed and we would watch documentaries.

01:35:35.000 And we would watch the big one was we were really into Zachariah Sitchin.

01:35:40.000 Zachariah Sitchin, he was a linguist and a biblical scholar, and he had this belief that if you decoded the Sumerian text, he's like, the Sumerian text in his interpretation...

01:35:57.000 Described a planet that came in an elliptical orbit every 3,600 years close to Earth, and that this planet was called Nibiru, and that these creatures on this planet are called the Anunnaki.

01:36:11.000 And that human beings were the product of accelerated evolution.

01:36:14.000 So the Anunnaki came down here when we were basically lower primates in the jungle and they experimented with our DNA and turned us into what we are now. 1.00

01:36:25.000 And there's all these depictions of these gigantic beings and one of them has it on his lap.

01:36:34.000 It's like a human but with a monkey's tail. 0.97

01:36:39.000 And he believes that that is like pointing to this link and that there's a detailed map of the solar system, which how the fuck did they know that, right? 0.96

01:36:48.000 6,000 years ago? 0.82

01:36:49.000 How did they know that?

01:36:51.000 But it had the sun in the center and it has all the planets in the correct orbit, like where they are. 0.79

01:36:56.000 And they're not the exact right size, but obviously Jupiter's fucking massive and Earth is small in comparison.

01:37:02.000 But the bigger ones are in the right place.

01:37:06.000 So that's why he called it 10th planet.

01:37:09.000 So I came up with 10th Planet.

01:37:11.000 That was my name.

01:37:12.000 Was he pissed?

01:37:13.000 I was like, Sumerian Jiu-Jitsu?

01:37:15.000 No one's gonna know what that means, man.

01:37:16.000 I go, just call it 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu. 0.99

01:37:19.000 Like, this shit is so crazy. 0.99

01:37:21.000 It's from over there. 1.00

01:37:22.000 Was he pissed when Pluto got demoted?

01:37:24.000 No, we never counted that.

01:37:26.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:26.000 When Pluto got demoted, like, says you.

01:37:29.000 Says you. 1.00

01:37:30.000 I grew up, it was a fucking planet. 1.00

01:37:32.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:37:33.000 It's got a name, bitch. 1.00

01:37:33.000 That's a planet. 1.00

01:37:37.000 I think the problem is Pluto is so small.

01:37:40.000 I think Pluto is smaller than the moon, which is weird.

01:37:44.000 Oh, by the way, the Sumerians counted the moon as a planet, I believe.

01:37:48.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:49.000 Because they called Nibiru the 12th planet.

01:37:52.000 Okay.

01:37:52.000 We came up with 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu.

01:37:55.000 It was just Eddie and I getting high, brainstorming.

01:37:58.000 Names for the Academy.

01:38:00.000 Because I think Pluto doesn't clear its orbit, is what they say.

01:38:03.000 Oh.

01:38:03.000 It's not the biggest...

01:38:05.000 So basically, the biggest thing in that plane...

01:38:08.000 Basically moves everything out of the way.

01:38:10.000 Pluto's about two-thirds the diameter of Earth's moon.

01:38:14.000 Wow, smaller than the moon.

01:38:15.000 Probably has a rocky core surrounded by a mantle of water ice.

01:38:18.000 Interesting ices like methane and nitrogen frost coat the surface.

01:38:21.000 Due to its lower density, Pluto's mass is about one-sixth of Earth's moon.

01:38:25.000 Whoa, you could fly on Pluto, just jump through the air.

01:38:29.000 Just like Superman.

01:38:31.000 That's the idea about Superman.

01:38:32.000 He came from an environment that's so dense that when he comes to Earth, he can just fly.

01:38:37.000 You just jump?

01:38:38.000 Yeah, but the problem with that is, like, biologically, we know that what happens to people when they're in zero gravity is their bodies deteriorate, like, very rapidly.

01:38:47.000 Your bone density deteriorates very rapidly. 0.99

01:38:49.000 Like, those guys that go up there for, like, six months, when they come down here, they're fucked up, man. 0.99

01:38:54.000 They can barely walk. 0.97

01:38:55.000 That's one of those people that volunteer to be the first ones to go to Mars.

01:39:00.000 It's like, y'all are dying.

01:39:02.000 That Commander Chris Hadfield, we had him on the show.

01:39:05.000 I said, dear moon crow, I was telling you about the other day.

01:39:07.000 These guys are all going to take a trip around the moon.

01:39:09.000 When is that happening?

01:39:10.000 Before the end of the year is supposed to right now.

01:39:13.000 Other things could stop that from happening.

01:39:15.000 But shouldn't they, like, send a chicken out there first?

01:39:18.000 I mean, I know that they lied about the CIA killing Kennedy.

01:39:21.000 Are we sure they told the truth about everything back then?

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:23.000 I mean, do so many things that didn't go wrong.

01:39:25.000 So many things that didn't go wrong.

01:39:27.000 Steve Aoki, don't do it, Steve!

01:39:29.000 Steve, I love you.

01:39:30.000 Don't do it.

01:39:30.000 Steve Aoki's a musician, right?

01:39:31.000 Yes! 1.00

01:39:32.000 He's fucking cool as shit. 0.99

01:39:33.000 All these people are creators and people that do stuff. 0.99

01:39:35.000 Oh, you mean none of them are astronauts?

01:39:37.000 Steve, catch the flu.

01:39:40.000 Don't do it.

01:39:41.000 So this isn't the whole crew.

01:39:43.000 No, this isn't.

01:39:44.000 They're flying in the SpaceX autonomous dragon capsule.

01:39:48.000 Oh, hell no. 0.99

01:39:49.000 This is a goddamn science fiction movie gone awry. 1.00

01:39:53.000 They're going to be on a planet fighting off dinosaurs. 1.00

01:39:55.000 It's fine.

01:39:55.000 Oh, have you seen that ad for that new movie with Adam Driver?

01:39:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:40:00.000 It looks dope as fuck. 0.98

01:40:01.000 Yeah, I was like, this is like dark. 0.98

01:40:03.000 They go back 65 million years ago with modern weapons from the future.

01:40:09.000 What's the matter?

01:40:09.000 But when does it come out though?

01:40:11.000 Oh, I thought you just screamed like someone bit you.

01:40:15.000 Oh yeah, here it is.

01:40:17.000 Look at this.

01:40:18.000 Yeah, I'm excited about this.

01:40:18.000 This looks exciting.

01:40:21.000 This is Commander Mills.

01:40:23.000 My ship was hit by an undocumented asteroid. 1.00

01:40:31.000 Transporting 35 passengers.

01:40:52.000 I almost want to stop now.

01:40:54.000 It looks too good.

01:40:54.000 Dude, it's good.

01:40:56.000 No, no, no.

01:40:57.000 You need to see some of this.

01:40:58.000 They did a great job.

01:41:00.000 No, they did a great job with this. 1.00

01:41:02.000 You already know it's dinosaurs, bitch. 1.00

01:41:03.000 I ruined it. 1.00

01:41:05.000 I already ruined it.

01:41:19.000 Sam Raimi, so you know it's gonna be really good. 1.00

01:41:30.000 These dinosaur footprints, oh shit! 0.99

01:41:35.000 Yeah, see they just give you a little touch here and there. 0.99

01:41:41.000 65. That's good.

01:41:43.000 65 million years ago.

01:41:45.000 Oh, the name of the movie 65?

01:41:46.000 Yeah.

01:41:47.000 Because it's about the age of the dinosaurs.

01:41:49.000 It goes back in time somehow.

01:41:51.000 It winds up on Earth 65 million years ago.

01:41:58.000 Oh, hey. 0.98

01:42:01.000 That's a great trailer, though, damn it. 0.94

01:42:03.000 There's another good trailer I just saw, too. 0.97

01:42:04.000 I'm not going to play it now, but the Oppenheimer trailer for Christopher Nolan's movie looked really fucking sweet.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, that's Christopher Nolan.

01:42:11.000 Another guy who makes amazing movies.

01:42:13.000 The one thing that bothers me about when they do asteroids in movies, asteroid fields, they make it seem like there's no way you would come close to an asteroid and just be surrounded by a whole bunch of other ones.

01:42:28.000 They're so far apart.

01:42:30.000 The way they always show them in movies is completely wrong.

01:42:34.000 Yeah!

01:42:35.000 I never even thought of that.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, there's no way you would have to, like, dodge between...

01:42:41.000 But that's all the great Star Wars scenes.

01:42:44.000 Right, I know.

01:42:44.000 It makes for better action, but it's just...

01:42:47.000 It's so inaccurate.

01:42:49.000 And it bothers me because I know.

01:42:50.000 I wish I didn't.

01:42:52.000 Too late.

01:42:53.000 Yeah, ignorance is bliss.

01:42:54.000 It's like, you ever heard Neil deGrasse Tyson break down the movie Gravity?

01:42:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:59.000 He's like, her hair would not be like this.

01:43:00.000 And everybody's like, stop!

01:43:01.000 Right, right.

01:43:02.000 Space stations are not that close to each other.

01:43:04.000 Stop! 1.00

01:43:05.000 It's right.

01:43:05.000 It's like, let's talk about it after the movie.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, you're going to ruin this shit. 1.00

01:43:09.000 Imagine watching a movie like that with him. 1.00

01:43:10.000 Oh, yeah, you can tell.

01:43:13.000 This is not possible.

01:43:14.000 He probably loses his mind in Lord of the Rings.

01:43:16.000 He's like, magic is not real.

01:43:17.000 Hey, Neil.

01:43:19.000 He goes so far with his skepticism, though, that he's not open-minded to the possibilities that alien life has visited Earth.

01:43:28.000 I'm not saying that it has, but he said, what is so interesting about us?

01:43:33.000 We had an argument about it.

01:43:35.000 One of the rare times I've ever disagreed with him. 0.94

01:43:37.000 I'm like, we are so insane.

01:43:38.000 We have nuclear weapons.

01:43:40.000 We shoot video through the sky.

01:43:42.000 We'll go to South America to study a rare frog, right?

01:43:45.000 They'll spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on these expeditions to find these little deer that people can't see in Vietnam.

01:43:53.000 Are they still alive?

01:43:54.000 They've done that before.

01:43:55.000 You don't think that a curious alien would want to look at a species that's on the verge of changing what type of civilization it is?

01:44:06.000 They're becoming integrated with technology and computers.

01:44:10.000 Artificial intelligence is ready to emerge.

01:44:13.000 Gene editing is a real thing that's being practiced right now and in levels that we probably aren't even aware of.

01:44:20.000 We know that one story because one guy got busted and he went to jail, but we know they did it.

01:44:27.000 So how many of them did they do that they didn't tell us about? 0.99

01:44:29.000 Maybe they decided it'd be better if we just shut the fuck up. 0.99

01:44:32.000 See, I feel like every time I'm on here, we talk about the Fermi Paradox because that's really what it boils down to. 0.98

01:44:38.000 It doesn't necessarily.

01:44:39.000 No?

01:44:40.000 No, because we don't have the ability to see these places.

01:44:46.000 We really don't have detailed imagery of any other planet.

01:44:51.000 We have very rough estimations of the temperatures.

01:44:54.000 I shouldn't even say rough.

01:44:55.000 I should say they're not precise, right?

01:44:59.000 So we don't know exactly what it's like there.

01:45:02.000 We don't know if there's life there.

01:45:05.000 We don't know what kind of life that would be, like a life that could breathe a completely different environment, a different kind of air than we breathe with different levels of gases.

01:45:14.000 It's impossible.

01:45:15.000 If things breathe underwater...

01:45:16.000 The only example we have is Earth.

01:45:18.000 But even on Earth, we have so many variables. 1.00

01:45:20.000 Things breathe under fucking water, man. 0.99

01:45:22.000 I mean, we drown in there, they die up here. 1.00

01:45:26.000 Like, fish, that's nuts. 1.00

01:45:28.000 There's a live shit everywhere. 1.00

01:45:31.000 Even places where you would think shit would be... 1.00

01:45:35.000 They found life around those... 0.99

01:45:37.000 Volcanic vents.

01:45:38.000 Those vents on the ocean floor, like acidic, like nothing should be able to be alive there.

01:45:42.000 And it's like a thousand degrees is coming out of there.

01:45:45.000 Yeah, but also, I think if aliens... 0.59

01:45:48.000 Because mathematically, they definitely...

01:45:51.000 Exist at least it seems like Highly likely that some life is out there right highly likely but but if I Feel like a species that was sufficiently advanced to be curious about us in study We wouldn't be able to tell that they were here.

01:46:04.000 That's true, too Because unless they wanted us to know they were here or unless they are not quite as advanced like if there is an infinite like universe that we're dealing with and there's Planets where life forms could have developed in a much more stable environment where they don't get hit by asteroids,

01:46:22.000 and they get to not just like where we are, which is like a million years of evolution from the lower primates, but like 300 million years.

01:46:31.000 Like what if they just stay alive?

01:46:33.000 And they just continue to advance to the point where they're literally like gods.

01:46:36.000 They can travel through black holes.

01:46:38.000 They can transcend space and time.

01:46:41.000 They can instantaneously appear in any spot in the universe they want to.

01:46:45.000 The question would be like, would they want us to know about them yet?

01:46:48.000 See, or even crazier than that, I remember when we were in London, I was talking to Graham.

01:46:55.000 Graham Hancock.

01:46:56.000 Yeah, Graham Hancock.

01:46:57.000 How great was that dinner?

01:46:58.000 Oh, it was awesome.

01:46:59.000 Graham Hancock and Guy Ritchie. 1.00

01:47:00.000 Yeah, because I remember when he first started telling me about his theory, it was almost like he expected me to be like, shut your stupid ass. 1.00

01:47:08.000 Like, he expected me to react completely negatively. 1.00

01:47:10.000 And he was shocked that I was, like, listening.

01:47:12.000 And I'm like, no, I'm...

01:47:13.000 I want to hear what you got to say. 0.99

01:47:14.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

01:47:15.000 Well, his theory is based on asteroid impacts. 0.99

01:47:18.000 Yeah, well, he's...

01:47:19.000 His combined with Randall Carlson's.

01:47:21.000 Yeah, he thinks that there may have already been a more developed human species that got wiped out, and they could have sent someone to another place.

01:47:30.000 It's totally possible that anyone who can build the pyramids could build anything.

01:47:34.000 Right.

01:47:35.000 If you can make that, we would struggle to make the pyramids today.

01:47:41.000 And I know people love to say, oh, human beings could do it.

01:47:43.000 Sure, we could do it.

01:47:45.000 But you have to realize there's 2 million, I think it's 2,300,000 stones in the Great Pyramid of Egypt.

01:47:52.000 And some of them are cut from a quarry that's hundreds of miles away.

01:47:55.000 And these are massive, massive stones that were cut with such precision that in many cases when you're inside the pyramids before, like on the outside everything's fucked up because it used to be covered in limestone. 0.97

01:48:06.000 But people looted it and they broke off the limestone, they built cities with it and shit. 0.99

01:48:10.000 Horrible. 0.98

01:48:11.000 They built a lot of like Cairo, apparently, the early days.

01:48:13.000 People stole limestone from the Great Pyramids. 0.93

01:48:16.000 That's how goofy people are. 0.92

01:48:17.000 So that's all rough and fucked up on the outside, but it didn't used to be like that. 0.97

01:48:22.000 It used to be flat and smooth to the point where it was probably polished and reflective. 0.91

01:48:27.000 Like they don't know exactly what it looked like, but they know that the precision inside, in some of the areas like where you look at the stones, you can't even get a razor blade in between those rocks.

01:48:36.000 And these are massive stones.

01:48:38.000 And the amount of calculations that are involved, the amount of precision that has to be involved, and to take this design where you're stacking stones, you can't have any errors.

01:48:47.000 When you get to the top, you have so many stones.

01:48:51.000 A millimeter here, a millimeter there. 0.99

01:48:53.000 You get to the top, you're all fucked up. 0.99

01:48:54.000 Do you think that Neil's skepticism comes from... 0.99

01:49:00.000 Because the other side of it is the speed of light.

01:49:07.000 Because that's the big, huge barrier, right?

01:49:09.000 For us to be visited by an alien species, they would have had to have figured out a way...

01:49:15.000 To get around that. 0.90

01:49:17.000 Either to go faster than the speed of light or to have some kind of workaround like warp bubbles or whatever the fuck. 0.71

01:49:25.000 I think that's more likely it. 0.85

01:49:28.000 I think the way we're thinking about it is very archaic.

01:49:31.000 The fire comes out the back.

01:49:33.000 I think we're thinking about it like a catapult. 1.00

01:49:36.000 You know, like back when they had a catapult, like this is a shit, bro. 0.99

01:49:39.000 I got the new catapult. 1.00

01:49:40.000 It's like the staccato 390 catapult with the fucking cut the ropes and that fucking rock goes flying. 0.99

01:49:45.000 That was as good as anybody. 0.99

01:49:46.000 No one ever thought like missiles would come out of jets. 1.00

01:49:50.000 You have a hypersonic jet, it's shooting fucking missiles. 0.99

01:49:53.000 Well, that's the thing. 0.99

01:49:53.000 You talk to futurists and they're always wrong. 0.99

01:49:56.000 Yeah, you can't be right.

01:49:57.000 You have rough estimates and guesses.

01:50:00.000 Talk about futurists in the 20s.

01:50:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:03.000 Didn't picture airplanes.

01:50:04.000 They thought everyone would have a blimp.

01:50:06.000 Like, everyone will have a personal blimp.

01:50:08.000 That's what they thought.

01:50:09.000 Dude, I had a dream about that once.

01:50:10.000 I had a dream.

01:50:12.000 A world.

01:50:13.000 I can't remember if it was a thousand or a million Nikola Tesla's.

01:50:17.000 Think about what that guy was able to create and the ideas that he came up with by himself.

01:50:24.000 And imagine if there was a million of those guys.

01:50:26.000 A million?

01:50:27.000 A million Nikolai Teslas.

01:50:29.000 A million insane geniuses that create transcendent technology that we enjoy today. 0.94

01:50:36.000 I mean, he was trying to broadcast electricity through the air and wanted to give it to people for free. 0.96

01:50:41.000 But think about how, you know, there's an old, I think, Voltaire quote where he says, something to the effect of, like, I'm less impressed with Einstein's brain than the near certainty that, you know, people just as intelligent are dying in sweatshops and slave fields and shit.

01:50:59.000 It's like, imagine if, because all the geniuses we got... 0.64

01:51:03.000 It was luck of the draw.

01:51:05.000 We got Nikola Tesla at the right time, with the right family, with the right money, with the right education.

01:51:10.000 Sir Isaac Newton, he was born a rich kid.

01:51:13.000 If he had been born a serf, we'd be 100 years behind. 1.00

01:51:18.000 That's probably totally true, what you're saying. 1.00

01:51:20.000 If I ever had Elon money, like fuck you money, I would start a foundation that went around the world Trying to find those fucking kids. 1.00

01:51:30.000 Go pull the smartest motherfuckers. 1.00

01:51:32.000 How about, better yet, create them. 1.00

01:51:33.000 Oh shit, with Crispin? 0.99

01:51:35.000 Not just that, but also with education. 1.00

01:51:37.000 A lot of it is access to things.

01:51:40.000 Like if you read Malcolm Gladwell's The Outliers.

01:51:44.000 One of the things that he'll talk about with certain incredible success stories is the access that they had to all these different things that could help them.

01:51:52.000 Like Bill Gates, he had access to the computers at the university when he was a kid and learned how to code very early on.

01:51:59.000 He was involved in it super early on. 1.00

01:52:02.000 I hate all these motherfuckers that act like... 1.00

01:52:03.000 All of these tech people try to act like, oh, we started in the garage. 1.00

01:52:09.000 And they failed to mention their garage was attached to a mansion.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, but it's still impressive.

01:52:16.000 If you think of what Apple is, it actually did start in a garage.

01:52:21.000 Like Amazon, you ever seen the desk that Jeff Bezos used to have?

01:52:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, and he had Amazon written on white paper.

01:52:28.000 Yeah, it was like one of them vinyl signs.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, but you know what?

01:52:32.000 His parents still loaned him like a quarter million dollars.

01:52:35.000 That's true.

01:52:36.000 Is that true?

01:52:37.000 Yeah!

01:52:38.000 Quarter million?

01:52:38.000 I don't know exactly how much it was, but it was that or over.

01:52:42.000 That's the Trump story, too.

01:52:44.000 Yeah.

01:52:44.000 He got loaned millions of dollars by his dad.

01:52:46.000 And that's what I mean.

01:52:46.000 It's like, access to the resources to...

01:52:48.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:52:49.000 Ultimately loaned him $245,000 in 1995. By 2020, Bezos had transformed this into one trillion.

01:52:57.000 Dude, the investment...

01:52:59.000 Wow.

01:52:59.000 That ain't bad.

01:53:00.000 It's a good return.

01:53:03.000 But you know what I was talking about just the other day?

01:53:05.000 You know what makes me feel sorry, though, for billionaires like him?

01:53:08.000 Is they can't really complain.

01:53:12.000 They can't really complain.

01:53:14.000 You know, it's like when we flew to London, I called my mother and complained.

01:53:18.000 And she was like...

01:53:20.000 What?

01:53:21.000 You know, it's like you can't complain to people that have less than you, so you can only...

01:53:25.000 That's true. 0.92

01:53:26.000 It's fucked up that him and Elon got beef because they really the only two... 0.98

01:53:32.000 Obviously, you can complain to your therapist or you can call, but somebody that really gets it, who the fuck else gets what it's like to be a trillionaire? 0.99

01:53:39.000 Why do they have beef? 0.83

01:53:40.000 What is the reason?

01:53:41.000 I think it's just competition. 1.00

01:53:43.000 Like you said, they're competitive, ruthless motherfuckers. 1.00

01:53:47.000 And Bezos went to space first. 1.00

01:53:51.000 I really think that's what it is.

01:53:52.000 I mean, I would love to ask one of them, but I think...

01:53:54.000 I would think that you'd be encouraging as many people as possible to develop space travel, especially like billionaires.

01:53:59.000 Or imagine if you're the richest man in the world and you wake up tomorrow and there's somebody else.

01:54:02.000 Maybe it's like a premise thing. 0.99

01:54:04.000 Like if you do a bit on a certain premise and then someone else is doing a bit on that premise, you're like, motherfucker. 0.98

01:54:09.000 Sometimes it just gets creative. 0.95

01:54:11.000 Like I remember hearing a long time ago, like when TikTok first started getting popular, like the number one girl on TikTok is like...

01:54:18.000 And she woke up one day, she was number two. 0.99

01:54:20.000 She hated that bitch. 1.00

01:54:21.000 I think it's just that competitive part of you that's just like, you don't really hate the person, but you see them as your opponent. 1.00

01:54:29.000 Right, right, right.

01:54:30.000 But I don't know, but it's weird that they've never had dinner together.

01:54:33.000 Because who else are you going to talk to?

01:54:35.000 Maybe a Saudi prince?

01:54:36.000 Right. 0.99

01:54:37.000 Who the fuck else are you going to complain to about billionaire problems? 0.99

01:54:39.000 Right. 0.99

01:54:41.000 And the Saudi prince thing, remember when they hacked his phone? 0.98

01:54:47.000 Oh yeah!

01:54:49.000 Yeah, they use that Pegasus software on his phone.

01:54:51.000 He opened up a WhatsApp link. 0.97

01:54:54.000 Yeah, that's dumb. 0.99

01:54:56.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:54:57.000 Yeah, yeah, that's dumb. 1.00

01:54:58.000 Why would you click on a WhatsApp link? 0.99

01:55:00.000 You don't know.

01:55:01.000 It's from your friend.

01:55:02.000 Your friend the billionaire.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, who knows?

01:55:06.000 Who knows what goes down?

01:55:07.000 But also, why would they need to...

01:55:09.000 It's Game of Thrones, bro.

01:55:10.000 It really is.

01:55:11.000 They're playing Game of Thrones, but they're doing it a different way.

01:55:13.000 I know that when you get to that point, it's not even about the money anymore.

01:55:22.000 You know, it's about winning.

01:55:23.000 Like, I don't think Jeff Bezos is checking his balance.

01:55:26.000 How could he?

01:55:28.000 Probably fluctuates by a billion dollars every now and again.

01:55:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:32.000 Doesn't it?

01:55:32.000 Like, they always say, they lost 11 billion in this thing.

01:55:35.000 Like, what?

01:55:36.000 Yeah.

01:55:37.000 Or you hear, like, Amazon's stock price lost the most money in American history.

01:55:41.000 Like, it don't seem to be affecting him at all.

01:55:44.000 No.

01:55:44.000 He's on a level, but also probably...

01:55:48.000 But he's retired.

01:55:49.000 He's not the CEO of Amazon anymore?

01:55:51.000 No.

01:55:53.000 So he just has the stock?

01:55:55.000 He's just balling on the yacht.

01:55:56.000 So why not just sell all the stock?

01:55:58.000 I don't know what he's doing, man.

01:55:59.000 Maybe that's part of the agreement, like you can't sell the stock.

01:56:01.000 That's the thing.

01:56:02.000 But what do you do when you can do anything?

01:56:07.000 You do what he does.

01:56:08.000 You just chill on the yacht?

01:56:10.000 Do testosterone, start lifting weights, get a yacht, become a baller.

01:56:14.000 Yeah, I mean, his yacht's pretty impressive.

01:56:16.000 They just put out a picture of his yacht the other day. 0.84

01:56:17.000 It's ridiculous. 0.79

01:56:18.000 It looks like a small city. 0.99

01:56:20.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

01:56:21.000 Elon Musk doesn't even own a house. 0.84

01:56:23.000 What?

01:56:24.000 Yeah, he just borrows people's houses.

01:56:27.000 Really?

01:56:28.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 What's the...

01:56:30.000 He says it's an attack vector. 0.99

01:56:33.000 So when people talk shit about him being rich, like, I don't even own a house. 0.99

01:56:38.000 He doesn't. 0.99

01:56:39.000 He's got all that money, but he's like, your possessions, like your extravagant possessions that people look at, those are attack vectors.

01:56:47.000 He's just brilliant.

01:56:48.000 It's very smart.

01:56:49.000 Oh, so people attack you because you have them?

01:56:51.000 Yeah, well that's a, like, they point to that.

01:56:54.000 Like, people are pointing to Jeff Bezos' yacht.

01:56:57.000 We know he has What does he have, like 100 and...

01:56:59.000 Did you know he's one of the first shareholders in Google?

01:57:02.000 Kapow! 0.99

01:57:03.000 Jeff Bezos?

01:57:03.000 250K invested in 1998. Kapow!

01:57:06.000 How about that?

01:57:07.000 3.3 million shares in Google stock.

01:57:09.000 Oh my goodness.

01:57:10.000 Worth 3.1 billion in 2017. Oh my goodness, that's a nice return on your investment.

01:57:14.000 Elon or Bezos?

01:57:15.000 $245,000.

01:57:16.000 What was the initial investment?

01:57:18.000 250k in 1998. He just took his parents' money and put it in there.

01:57:22.000 I feel like people are attacking him anyway.

01:57:24.000 People don't like you anyway. 1.00

01:57:25.000 Just go buy some shit. 1.00

01:57:26.000 Well, they're definitely still attacking Elon, right? 1.00

01:57:29.000 But what he says is that a house is an attack vector, meaning that's something that people point to.

01:57:35.000 If I had Elon money and somebody attacked me on Twitter, I would show up at their house and give them $100,000 and be like, go back on Twitter and say something nice.

01:57:43.000 Well, you'd be doing that all day long for the rest of your life.

01:57:46.000 And that's how you'd starve to death.

01:57:49.000 You'd never have time for anything else.

01:57:50.000 Did everybody would be lining up to curse you out?

01:57:52.000 You'd be exhausted.

01:57:54.000 And people would get mad.

01:57:55.000 Like, $100,000 only takes you so far.

01:57:57.000 I'm back.

01:57:58.000 I'm back on the Elon-hating train.

01:58:00.000 No, he just banned the guy.

01:58:02.000 You know, there was a Twitter account called, like, Elon's Jet?

01:58:05.000 Yeah.

01:58:06.000 And the guy was telling people when his jet was taking off and landing, which is a little creepy.

01:58:12.000 How is he getting the information?

01:58:14.000 It's probably available.

01:58:16.000 I think it's more complicated than that.

01:58:19.000 I think you have to take data from multiple different places.

01:58:23.000 What he's doing is putting all that data together.

01:58:25.000 Is that fair to say?

01:58:26.000 Is that accurate, Jamie?

01:58:28.000 It says ADS-B data, which is probably available records.

01:58:33.000 But then you've got to put it together and find probably tail numbers and stuff.

01:58:37.000 And then he's the one saying, this is him, too.

01:58:40.000 Yeah, I think he's putting it together from publicly available information, but it's still a little creepy.

01:58:47.000 Why?

01:58:47.000 What is the point?

01:58:49.000 I don't know.

01:58:50.000 He said he started to do it because he was a fan of Elon's.

01:58:53.000 And then he wanted $50,000.

01:58:56.000 And then Elon offered him money to stop or offered him a job to stop.

01:58:59.000 I don't know what happened with that.

01:59:02.000 I don't know what the exact specifics were.

01:59:04.000 But there was some sort of discussion about Elon giving him money or something like that.

01:59:08.000 The thing is, he says it's a safety issue.

01:59:12.000 And I feel like if the richest man in the world is telling you, hey man, what you doing making me feel unsafe?

01:59:17.000 And I need you to stop.

01:59:18.000 And here's some money.

01:59:19.000 I think you gotta take that deal.

01:59:21.000 Because...

01:59:22.000 He offered 5k and then...

01:59:24.000 Oh, that's not enough.

01:59:25.000 ...countered off the guy who runs the account asked for 50k saying he'd use the money for college and to possibly buy a Tesla Model 3. And that was, I guess, their last public exchange, maybe.

01:59:33.000 Oh, wow.

01:59:35.000 That's not a bad...

01:59:36.000 Look, that kid saying that, like, that's a good deal.

01:59:39.000 He said he was a high school senior when it started, then he kept it going during the pandemic.

01:59:43.000 Yeah, 5k's not enough.

01:59:45.000 June 2020. Elon, you gotta make an offer they can't refuse.

01:59:47.000 But here's the problem.

01:59:48.000 How does this prevent other people from doing the exact same thing and doing the same thing and trying to get more money?

01:59:56.000 Like, when does that end?

01:59:58.000 Is that an industry now?

01:59:59.000 Tracking Elon's jet?

02:00:01.000 Well, that's also why I think it was a mistake to go public with it.

02:00:05.000 Because the DMs weren't public until he made them public.

02:00:08.000 Until the guy running the account made it public.

02:00:12.000 But is it a mistake for him?

02:00:14.000 Because it's getting him a lot of attention.

02:00:16.000 People are paying attention to it.

02:00:17.000 He might be able to monetize it.

02:00:19.000 It's weird, though.

02:00:20.000 It's definitely weird.

02:00:22.000 And I would not like it at all.

02:00:25.000 I don't think it's a nice thing to do.

02:00:28.000 He got more screwballs than me.

02:00:29.000 Because if I had a trillion dollars, I had somebody knocking on your door.

02:00:33.000 Hey, listen, you want to make me uncomfortable?

02:00:35.000 I'm going to make your whole family uncomfortable.

02:00:37.000 We're not going to hurt you, but we're going to make you uncomfortable.

02:00:40.000 If you won't stop doing this, I already offered to pay you, then I want revenge.

02:00:45.000 I'm petty like that.

02:00:46.000 And that's probably not the smart move.

02:00:47.000 What are you allowed to do?

02:00:48.000 Do you think you're allowed to film someone and put them, every time they're out in public, put it on a website and tell everybody where they are?

02:00:55.000 You know?

02:00:55.000 Because he could hire someone to do that.

02:00:57.000 That could be stalking.

02:00:58.000 Is that stalking?

02:01:00.000 I think it depends on how you gather the information.

02:01:01.000 What if you just track that guy's car?

02:01:04.000 Say, I'm tracking his car.

02:01:05.000 Let's see what kind of carbon emissions this guy puts out.

02:01:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:08.000 I'll track his cars.

02:01:09.000 I'll track all his Ubers.

02:01:10.000 We'll measure up.

02:01:11.000 Because, like, you're not carbon neutral if you're riding in an Uber.

02:01:14.000 You get real petty.

02:01:15.000 You're riding in someone else's car.

02:01:16.000 Real petty like that.

02:01:17.000 You get real petty.

02:01:18.000 If you decided to do that and decided to say, like, are you doing it because you think, like, you want to shame me for flying a private jet?

02:01:24.000 Because that's the thing that a lot of people do.

02:01:26.000 Like, Taylor Swift and all these people that talk about climate change.

02:01:29.000 Like, look what you're doing, Leonardo DiCaprio.

02:01:31.000 You're flying around a private jet.

02:01:33.000 Taylor Swift doesn't fly on a private jet?

02:01:34.000 Of course she does.

02:01:35.000 Of course she does, but they give her a hard time about it.

02:01:38.000 They give everybody a hard time about it.

02:01:39.000 The Kardashians, they give them a hard time about it.

02:01:41.000 They take so many trips and they could have driven there, it would have only taken 18 hours.

02:01:46.000 People get crazy.

02:01:47.000 I think one of them was like they wanted her to drive four hours.

02:01:51.000 She's not driving four hours.

02:01:52.000 Get it out of your head.

02:01:54.000 Also, dude, a lot of people don't realize too, when you reach a certain level of celebrity, You can't travel regular.

02:02:04.000 You just can't do it. 0.97

02:02:05.000 Because people will swarm you, they mob you, they stalk you, they slip shit to you. 0.95

02:02:12.000 Maybe flying private isn't... 0.98

02:02:15.000 You definitely can't go to the airport.

02:02:18.000 Bill Gates can't sit in first class.

02:02:19.000 Exactly!

02:02:20.000 Too many people would tell him, you put a microchip in my brain!

02:02:24.000 Bill Gates!

02:02:25.000 Because here's the other thing too. 1.00

02:02:27.000 You fly, motherfucker! 1.00

02:02:29.000 You fly commercial, it's like you could drive too. 1.00

02:02:33.000 But you ain't about to do that.

02:02:34.000 Well, it's like the argument would get down to everybody needs to be on an electric bus.

02:02:39.000 And then the problem is like, how are you powering the electricity?

02:02:43.000 Hey, listen.

02:02:43.000 The second they come up with some like...

02:02:46.000 Some shit where they can safely, like some hyperlink shit, where they can safely zoom you at 500 miles an hour. 0.99

02:02:53.000 I'm going to be a proponent of that. 1.00

02:02:55.000 Those accidents are going to be horrific.

02:02:57.000 The accidents?

02:02:59.000 Accidents.

02:03:00.000 500 mile an hour accidents.

02:03:01.000 You know they're going to happen.

02:03:02.000 But they don't happen that often in Japan.

02:03:05.000 Often is not a word I ever want to hear.

02:03:09.000 When you're talking about 500 mile an hour accidents.

02:03:11.000 Oh yeah, the first one's gonna be brutal.

02:03:13.000 That often?

02:03:14.000 They're having deaths in Florida right now, and the train doesn't even go that fast.

02:03:17.000 Yeah.

02:03:17.000 How fast is it?

02:03:18.000 How fast? 1.00

02:03:19.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:03:19.000 I feel like it's less than 100 miles an hour, but people are trying to cross. 1.00

02:03:23.000 They think it's a slow train, so they try to cross the tracks, and a fast train comes through.

02:03:26.000 It says 55 people.

02:03:28.000 It's killed at least 55 people in Miami-Dade.

02:03:29.000 It's on the screen.

02:03:30.000 Broward and Palm Beach counties.

02:03:32.000 Jesus Christ.

02:03:32.000 Since its debut three years ago.

02:03:34.000 It's like one a month, I guess.

02:03:36.000 That's a lot.

02:03:37.000 That's a lot. 0.99

02:03:38.000 Damn, one a month? 0.99

02:03:39.000 That's a lot, dude. 0.99

02:03:40.000 They even stopped it for a while because it was happening so much.

02:03:43.000 How are they dying?

02:03:44.000 Oh, but you know what?

02:03:45.000 They're trying to cross and they think they have time.

02:03:46.000 Oh my God, collisions.

02:03:48.000 Look at the picture.

02:03:48.000 They're putting this old-ass train on the old track.

02:03:51.000 I mean, this new train on the old tracks.

02:03:52.000 Well, we don't have new tracks.

02:03:53.000 That's the other problem.

02:03:54.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:03:55.000 Oh my God, this is insane.

02:03:57.000 Do they check all those tracks?

02:03:59.000 No.

02:04:00.000 Right now they have police at most of the crossings to stop people.

02:04:06.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:04:08.000 I think a lot of this has happened during testing.

02:04:09.000 It's not even fully operational.

02:04:11.000 I've been on an Amtrak train.

02:04:13.000 When I lived in LA, I would catch the train down to San Diego.

02:04:16.000 I prefer the train over driving or flying because it gives me time to read. 0.99

02:04:22.000 When I'm just sitting there and traveling, I can read and listen to shit. 0.99

02:04:26.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:04:27.000 It's like a two, three-hour train, but I've been on it twice when it's hit someone.

02:04:33.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:34.000 Yeah.

02:04:36.000 And their whole procedure is they stop the train and they have to wait.

02:04:40.000 They survived.

02:04:41.000 They survived.

02:04:41.000 Oh my god.

02:04:42.000 Did you see that?

02:04:43.000 Is that the lady in the Prius that tried to drive and the train hit her? 0.59

02:04:46.000 Might have been.

02:04:46.000 Like a small car?

02:04:48.000 Okay, so wait a minute.

02:04:49.000 She hit the gas and she just panicked.

02:04:50.000 She tried to get it across before the train.

02:04:52.000 The train hits her car and just clips the corner of it.

02:04:56.000 So these Bright Line trains, all these deaths are from not the train crashing?

02:05:00.000 Correct.

02:05:00.000 No, they're from people crashing into the trains, trying to get across the tracks in their cars.

02:05:05.000 Yeah.

02:05:06.000 See, if one of them things hit you at 500, though, you're not surviving that.

02:05:10.000 You're paced, bro.

02:05:12.000 Yeah, well, they hit the corner of her car.

02:05:15.000 Did she get injured?

02:05:16.000 Yeah, I'm sure she got injured.

02:05:17.000 She got rocked.

02:05:19.000 I mean, the car gets destroyed.

02:05:21.000 Yo, did you see that clip?

02:05:22.000 It was a couple months ago where a police officer pulled a woman over.

02:05:30.000 He stopped his car on the train tracks.

02:05:34.000 Put her in the back of the car while he went to go deal with the other passenger.

02:05:39.000 And then the train started coming.

02:05:41.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

02:05:42.000 And he fucking left that bitch. 1.00

02:05:44.000 He left her in the car. 1.00

02:05:45.000 Oh, my God.

02:05:46.000 Yeah.

02:05:46.000 She didn't die, though.

02:05:47.000 Oh, my God.

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:49.000 Have you seen that?

02:05:50.000 Oh, my God.

02:05:51.000 You didn't have time to get her out? 0.90

02:05:52.000 Here it is right here.

02:05:53.000 Yeah.

02:05:55.000 She's in the back of that cruiser. 1.00

02:05:58.000 And he's like, he's like, fuck it, fuck it. 1.00

02:06:00.000 No way. 1.00

02:06:01.000 Oh, no way.

02:06:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:04.000 No way.

02:06:05.000 This is from inside the car. 1.00

02:06:06.000 She's like, let me out there, bitch! 1.00

02:06:13.000 Oh, bruh. 1.00

02:06:15.000 Dude, I don't want to see this.

02:06:16.000 I don't want to see this.

02:06:17.000 You're freaking me out.

02:06:18.000 That's tough right there.

02:06:19.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:20.000 What happens to that cop?

02:06:21.000 Oh, who knows?

02:06:22.000 Who knows?

02:06:23.000 I never even got a follow-up.

02:06:24.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:24.000 He left the car on the tracks.

02:06:26.000 Yeah, man.

02:06:27.000 That's so insane.

02:06:28.000 And I forget what his reasoning...

02:06:30.000 I forget what he said, but it's like...

02:06:31.000 How could he...

02:06:33.000 How do you justify that? 1.00

02:06:33.000 That's just a fuck up. 1.00

02:06:34.000 You fucked up real bad. 1.00

02:06:35.000 You fucked up real bad. 1.00

02:06:37.000 And she didn't die though. 1.00

02:06:38.000 Oh my god.

02:06:39.000 That's insane.

02:06:39.000 I think she broke all her bones.

02:06:41.000 Oh my god.

02:06:43.000 Oh my god.

02:06:44.000 Jesus Christ, bro.

02:06:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:46.000 Hit by a fucking train. 1.00

02:06:48.000 At the very least, aren't you pretty much forgiven for whatever thing you got arrested for? 1.00

02:06:52.000 What if it was just, like, meth?

02:06:55.000 I don't know.

02:06:56.000 I forget where her crime was.

02:06:58.000 Maybe it was...

02:06:59.000 She got caught with meth.

02:07:00.000 It was probably something like that.

02:07:01.000 But it's like, yeah, but we can't talk about that in court. 0.99

02:07:06.000 What prosecutor gonna prosecute you when you just got fucked up? 0.98

02:07:10.000 Not just that. 0.98

02:07:11.000 Like, for sure she's gonna sue.

02:07:13.000 Oh yeah, I would sue.

02:07:14.000 If she's still alive, I mean, who knows how badly injured.

02:07:18.000 She might be still alive, but for how long?

02:07:20.000 She got seriously injured.

02:07:21.000 It says, uh, lost teeth, left arm broken, multiple fractured ribs, uh, injuries to heads and legs.

02:07:27.000 Jeez.

02:07:28.000 Head and legs, sorry, not multiple heads.

02:07:29.000 But she, but she, she didn't, she didn't still walk, right? 1.00

02:07:33.000 It says she's alive.

02:07:34.000 I'm looking, it says two cops charged for leaving woman and vehicle.

02:07:38.000 Oh my God.

02:07:39.000 Oh, it went to the wrong thing. 0.95

02:07:40.000 Yeah, but in the one cop, I mean, first of all, what you fucked up at was stopping your car on the tracks. 0.72

02:07:47.000 Yeah, why'd the cop stop his car on the tracks? 0.97

02:07:49.000 For sure. 0.99

02:07:49.000 And why'd he get it out of his fucking car? 0.99

02:07:51.000 Like, the whole thing is bonkers. 1.00

02:07:53.000 Yeah, it's insane.

02:07:54.000 I mean, did she try to escape or something?

02:07:56.000 Did he try to put her back in?

02:07:58.000 I don't know what the story was.

02:07:58.000 Police officers have been charged with multiple felony and misdemeanor counts stemming from an incident in which they allegedly placed a handcuffed female suspect in a patrol car that was then hit by a train.

02:08:05.000 Oh, my God.

02:08:06.000 Five counts of reckless endangerment, one count each of obstructing a highway or other passageway, careless driving, and parking.

02:08:11.000 And you definitely don't get to call yourself, because he ain't even tried.

02:08:15.000 To save her.

02:08:16.000 That's so scary, dude.

02:08:17.000 I mean, probably nothing he could have done.

02:08:19.000 It might not have been, right?

02:08:21.000 I don't know how much time there was in that.

02:08:23.000 I mean, he was on the tracks.

02:08:24.000 He might not have been able to do anything but get out of the way.

02:08:28.000 Which is like, what?

02:08:29.000 Do you die with her?

02:08:30.000 She was charged with one count of felony menacing.

02:08:33.000 She got charged?

02:08:36.000 No.

02:08:36.000 Before that, or after that?

02:08:38.000 Liz Gonzalez suffered serious injuries following the collision and has since been released from the hospital.

02:08:42.000 She is charged with one count of family menacing, according to the district attorney's office.

02:08:45.000 Still?

02:08:46.000 Menaces when...

02:08:47.000 It's like, nah, I'm going to need you to drop that.

02:08:49.000 I'm going to need you to drop that.

02:08:51.000 How insane is that they're still charging her?

02:08:54.000 Nah.

02:08:54.000 It's obviously still ongoing, I believe, so I don't know that it's even made it to court yet.

02:08:58.000 Yeah, because you can get charged with stuff and then they'll decline to prosecute.

02:09:02.000 That's happened to me before.

02:09:03.000 What does menacing mean?

02:09:04.000 Like she's threatening somebody?

02:09:05.000 Let's see.

02:09:06.000 I'll Google felony menacing.

02:09:10.000 That's the craziest case of karma ever, if that's the case.

02:09:14.000 Menacing.

02:09:14.000 Wikipedia says, a criminal offense generally defined as displaying a weapon with the intent of placing another person in fear or imminent physical injury or death.

02:09:22.000 Oh, she pulled a weapon on somebody. 1.00

02:09:25.000 So who knows what that story is?

02:09:28.000 Public menacing.

02:09:28.000 Who knows what that story is?

02:09:30.000 Yeah.

02:09:32.000 The problem with that is like, who knows what that person did?

02:09:35.000 Who knows if she was defending herself?

02:09:38.000 But imagine getting hit by a train and then still having to go to prison.

02:09:44.000 Oh my god, that's so insane.

02:09:45.000 Because ultimately she didn't harm anyone.

02:09:48.000 Right, she scared them.

02:09:49.000 Yeah, so imagine still having to go to prison with all your bones broken and everything.

02:09:54.000 Does it say with the intent?

02:09:55.000 I'm looking right now.

02:09:56.000 I'm trying to reel back on the story on why they pulled her over.

02:09:58.000 Can you read the definition again?

02:10:01.000 Of what?

02:10:02.000 Menacing?

02:10:02.000 Yeah.

02:10:03.000 Oh, sorry.

02:10:03.000 Does it say with intent?

02:10:05.000 Listen to me like I'm a fucking lawyer. 0.99

02:10:09.000 I just want to clarify for the record, Your Honor. 0.98

02:10:11.000 The definition of the dictionary says, suggesting the presence of danger threatening.

02:10:16.000 A menacing tone of voice.

02:10:18.000 To be menacing to someone is occurring when an individual knowingly places another person in fear by means of threat or physical action.

02:10:25.000 So yeah, that'd be intent.

02:10:26.000 Oh, but that's just, that's not a weapon, though.

02:10:29.000 I thought you said it was a weapon.

02:10:30.000 The first thing, as Wikipedia, I'm reading multiple definitions. 1.00

02:10:33.000 So if I go, bitch, I'll kill you, that's menacing? 1.00

02:10:36.000 Isn't that assault? 1.00

02:10:37.000 Probably menacing.

02:10:38.000 No, it can't be assault, right?

02:10:40.000 Or is there verbal assault?

02:10:41.000 Yeah, assault is just making someone afraid.

02:10:44.000 Again, here's the Wikipedia so we can read that again.

02:10:47.000 Menacing or brandishing in a criminal offense.

02:10:50.000 Oh, is a criminal offense.

02:10:52.000 So, or brandishing.

02:10:54.000 Generally defined as displaying a weapon, but it's generally defined.

02:10:57.000 Okay, generally defined. 0.99

02:10:58.000 But it could be, like, what if someone was an MMA fighter and they were threatening to beat your ass? 0.99

02:11:02.000 Oh, yeah, because you could be menacing by stalking. 0.99

02:11:05.000 Oh.

02:11:06.000 Idaho has a different definition than Ohio, so it's, you know.

02:11:09.000 Okay.

02:11:10.000 Well, so something.

02:11:14.000 Who knows?

02:11:15.000 So just threatening, probably.

02:11:16.000 Just threatening somebody, maybe.

02:11:17.000 Who knows? 1.00

02:11:19.000 But Jesus Christ, getting hit by a fucking train. 1.00

02:11:24.000 You know, Matt Hughes, former UFC welterweight champion, got hit by a train. 1.00

02:11:28.000 No.

02:11:29.000 Yeah.

02:11:30.000 Yeah, he has been recovering over the last few years using a lot of stem cells.

02:11:36.000 Oh yeah, I do remember this.

02:11:37.000 Yeah, that bioaccelerator place in Columbia, which a lot of MMA fighters go there and they have great results.

02:11:45.000 He's going there and he's done a bunch of videos of him there doing different stem cell therapies.

02:11:51.000 Here's what happened to begin that.

02:11:53.000 It says multiple law enforcement agencies responded to a report of road rage incident involving a firearm in Fort Lupton on Friday evening.

02:12:01.000 A Platteville police officer stopped Rios Gonzalez's car just past a set of railroad tracks and parked the patrol vehicle on the crossing.

02:12:09.000 She was placed in the back of the police vehicle, which was hit by the train as officers were searching her car.

02:12:17.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

02:12:19.000 They were searching her car while they parked their car on the fucking train with her in it. 0.99

02:12:25.000 So there's no excuse for that. 0.99

02:12:26.000 No. 0.98

02:12:27.000 I mean, how the fuck do you not know the train's coming? 0.99

02:12:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:12:31.000 And you're a cop in this area? 0.99

02:12:33.000 And then they could hear it.

02:12:34.000 It wasn't like it was a quiet train.

02:12:37.000 But both of them, they were probably just so locked in, and then by the time they realized it was coming, they were like, bro. 1.00

02:12:44.000 I mean, what the fuck? 0.99

02:12:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:48.000 You definitely don't get to be a hero. 1.00

02:12:49.000 Imagine being in that fucking car when that train's coming. 1.00

02:12:52.000 Woo! 1.00

02:12:53.000 Yeah.

02:12:54.000 Woo! 0.99

02:12:54.000 That's a crazy way to go. 0.99

02:12:55.000 Because being in a situation where you know, where you really know that there's harm coming.

02:13:01.000 They've gotten rid of people that way, too, you know.

02:13:03.000 What do you mean?

02:13:04.000 Parked them on the tracks.

02:13:06.000 Oh, yeah. 0.54

02:13:06.000 Like, murdered them and then parked them on the tracks. 0.54

02:13:09.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:13:09.000 Tape your hands at the steering wheel.

02:13:11.000 Do you know that's how they found out about the drug trafficking in Mena, Arkansas?

02:13:16.000 Wait, no.

02:13:17.000 Yeah, there was a guy named Barry Seal, and he was going back and forth to like, I guess it was Columbia.

02:13:23.000 Why does that name sound familiar?

02:13:24.000 Because they did a movie on him with Tom Cruise.

02:13:26.000 I think it's called American Made, is that what it's called? 1.00

02:13:28.000 It's a great fucking movie. 0.98

02:13:30.000 But, you know, Barry Seal's not handsome like Tom Cruise, so it's weird. 0.99

02:13:34.000 But the movie's great. 0.99

02:13:35.000 Tom Cruise played this motherfucker? 0.99

02:13:37.000 He didn't gain weight or anything. 1.00

02:13:39.000 He's like, fuck you. 1.00

02:13:41.000 Tom Cruise was like, hey man, I can't look like that. 1.00

02:13:43.000 I'm not going to look like that. 0.99

02:13:44.000 I'm Tom motherfucking Cruise. 0.98

02:13:45.000 I can pretend. 0.99

02:13:46.000 Now go see Tom Cruise in American Made.

02:13:49.000 Now watch the difference of what his character looks like.

02:13:55.000 Just looks like a wild man.

02:13:57.000 Just got some crazy hair.

02:13:58.000 That's it.

02:13:59.000 Man, I've never seen this movie.

02:14:01.000 Well, it's a true story.

02:14:03.000 Well, the movie is, you know, obviously a dramatic adaption of a true story.

02:14:09.000 They took some dramatic license, some theatrical added things.

02:14:15.000 They had creative power over the storyline a little bit.

02:14:19.000 But in it, Barry Seals gets pardoned by Bill Clinton.

02:14:23.000 For what?

02:14:24.000 There was something that happened where he got in trouble, and he said, call this number, and Bill Clinton lets him off the hook.

02:14:31.000 In the Tom Cruise movie, yeah.

02:14:33.000 In the Tom Cruise movie.

02:14:35.000 There's like a scene right here that supposedly happened.

02:14:38.000 Play it.

02:14:40.000 I'm Dana Cibota.

02:14:41.000 He's just been arrested.

02:14:42.000 State Attorney General.

02:14:43.000 You've got DEA, ATF, FBI, all wanting their pound of flesh.

02:14:48.000 Spanish.

02:14:50.000 It's a great room.

02:14:51.000 Yeah.

02:14:52.000 Well, you hit the trifecta, didn't you?

02:14:54.000 I mean, guns, drugs, money laundering.

02:14:57.000 And the state of Arkansas is gonna rip the bark right off of you, boy.

02:15:02.000 We are gonna put you in a four-by-six cell for the rest of your life.

02:15:07.000 That's a long time.

02:15:08.000 Yeah.

02:15:10.000 Miss Sabota, I have Governor Clinton on the line.

02:15:16.000 He says it's urgent.

02:15:38.000 So this is Tom Cruise just talking to all these cops that think he's going to jail for the rest of his life.

02:15:45.000 Oh, bring me down here for one.

02:15:58.000 See?

02:16:00.000 I'm gonna walk out of here.

02:16:03.000 I'm gonna walk out of here. 0.99

02:16:06.000 I read a damn thing any one of you can do about it. 0.99

02:16:22.000 Do it. 0.99

02:16:23.000 He sticks his arms out to get unhandcuffed.

02:16:42.000 There you are.

02:16:46.000 So, this is in the movie, it at least implies, without specifically saying it.

02:16:53.000 Does he deny this? 0.99

02:16:56.000 Yo, when that motherfucker- I don't know. 1.00

02:16:57.000 When his memoirs come out, that's gonna be a motherfucker. 1.00

02:17:00.000 So this is what happened. 0.99

02:17:02.000 These kids died on this train track in Meena, Arkansas.

02:17:06.000 And the police reported that the police report stated that they were intoxicated and they fell asleep on the train track and that's how they died.

02:17:16.000 Then the parents did an autopsy and they found stab wounds on the kids.

02:17:22.000 And so they knew that the kids had been murdered and placed there.

02:17:25.000 So an investigation started and then during the investigation they realized that that was where Barry Seal would do his drug drops. 0.98

02:17:32.000 So he would fly into these airports and instead of flying in with giant bags of cocaine And then getting arrested when he landed, he would throw them out the back of a fucking plane with parachutes. 0.96

02:17:44.000 And they would land. 0.99

02:17:46.000 I don't know if they had parachutes.

02:17:48.000 They'd just throw these bags out at a low altitude.

02:17:53.000 And he had drop points where he would drop these bags.

02:17:56.000 And one of these two kids, one of these bags landed and they saw it. 0.98

02:18:01.000 And they went over and started fucking with it. 0.99

02:18:03.000 And then when the people went to find and retrieve the bag, they found these kids and they murdered them. 0.98

02:18:09.000 And so then people start talking and then they found the story of this guy Barry Seals and he was arrested.

02:18:16.000 And on his way to trial, he gets murdered with George Bush's phone number in his pocket.

02:18:25.000 Barry's Hill.

02:18:26.000 Barry's Hill.

02:18:28.000 Man, stop playing.

02:18:30.000 Listen, this is the ultimate story.

02:18:31.000 Is all that in the movie too?

02:18:32.000 I don't know if they put that in the movie, but find out if that's true, because I'm pretty sure it is.

02:18:36.000 The ultimate story was this guy was smuggling drugs into the United States a lot, flying back and forth to South America.

02:18:46.000 He had all these photos, and he worked in cooperation at one point in time with whatever federal government that was investigating.

02:18:54.000 I think it was...

02:18:56.000 Was it Noriega?

02:18:59.000 Who did he get in trouble?

02:19:02.000 Medellin.

02:19:02.000 It was the Medellin cartel?

02:19:03.000 Yeah.

02:19:04.000 So was it Pablo Escobar that he got photographed with?

02:19:06.000 Yes sir.

02:19:08.000 So he got, like, photos for them of, like, all these different drug dealers all hanging out together.

02:19:14.000 Pablo Escobar.

02:19:14.000 I suppose that's how he got caught.

02:19:15.000 Those pictures came back and were released publicly before he had even landed on that flight.

02:19:20.000 So that's how they found him.

02:19:21.000 And they were like, oh, we know who Barry is.

02:19:23.000 Yeah, so they murdered that dude.

02:19:25.000 Somebody murdered that dude.

02:19:28.000 But that guy was bringing in drugs, and he wasn't making all the money himself.

02:19:32.000 He was a pilot, and I'm sure he got a piece.

02:19:34.000 I'm sure he got paid really well, but he was doing it for other people.

02:19:38.000 There's Spinelli.

02:19:39.000 I don't know who this guy is.

02:19:40.000 Let me see.

02:19:41.000 I think it might have been a previous agent.

02:19:44.000 So he was an agent at one point in time.

02:19:46.000 This says he was his pilot.

02:19:48.000 Was he an agent?

02:19:49.000 And had his phone number in his back pocket.

02:19:51.000 Okay.

02:19:51.000 It says, for example, Spinelli said, one of the big conspiracy theories around Barry is that he was George H.W. Bush's personal pilot, and when Barry was killed, he had Bush's phone number in his back pocket.

02:20:01.000 Neither filmmaker felt it was appropriate to include that unsubstantiated theory, but they also knew that astute audience members might already be familiar with it.

02:20:11.000 That's a good way of saying it might have happened.

02:20:13.000 So then why did they include the Clinton thing?

02:20:15.000 Because the Clinton thing definitely did happen.

02:20:18.000 And the thing about it is, what was going on?

02:20:23.000 This guy was bringing in cocaine. 0.94

02:20:25.000 And if you really thought about it, you'd go, okay, if you were some big-time government agency and you knew there is no fucking way we're stopping all this coke from coming over here. 0.98

02:20:37.000 It's coming over here. 0.95

02:20:39.000 Why don't we, like, get a little taste?

02:20:41.000 Why don't we get a little taste? 0.62

02:20:43.000 If you're in the DEA and you're just constantly busting scumbags with giant bags of meth and you're like, you know what, man? 1.00

02:20:49.000 How about we just fucking sell some of this shit? 0.99

02:20:51.000 How about we just sell some of it and use the money, like, to fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua? 1.00

02:20:57.000 That's what happened with Freeway Ricky Ross. 1.00

02:20:59.000 You ever hear Ronald Reagan talking about that shit? 1.00

02:21:02.000 Where at first he goes... 1.00

02:21:05.000 There's a Killer Mike song called Fuck Reagan or something like that. 0.98

02:21:08.000 And it starts off with his speech about where he goes... 0.98

02:21:11.000 He's like, I know last week I said that we were not funding these contras or whatever.

02:21:18.000 And he was like, and even though...

02:21:20.000 This is a very politician way he goes.

02:21:22.000 Even though...

02:21:24.000 My heart tells me that that's still true.

02:21:27.000 The evidence says that it's not.

02:21:31.000 So instead of being like, I lied, he was like, my heart tells me that this isn't true.

02:21:36.000 How much do you think they tell the president?

02:21:40.000 How much do you trust a guy who only has a job for four years?

02:21:44.000 I think they tell him the very... 0.99

02:21:49.000 Tip-top urgent shit, and they tell him all the other shit on the bottom, but there's that little middle little 10-15% that he has no idea. 0.99

02:21:57.000 In the 1980s, I'm just throwing this out there. 0.99

02:22:00.000 Don't you think that in the 1980s they could keep a guy like Ronald Reagan from finding out that they're dealing drugs while his wife is doing the Just Say No campaign?

02:22:10.000 Because that's during the same time period, man.

02:22:13.000 During the Just Say No campaign, Ronald Reagan...

02:22:16.000 Was responsible, because he was the president, whether or not he knew about it.

02:22:20.000 During his administration, they were selling drugs in South Central LA. Oh, yeah.

02:22:26.000 You've seen that video where Michael Rupert calls out, like, there's an assemblywoman, and there's the DEA guys on stage, and he says, I personally witnessed the CIA selling drugs.

02:22:38.000 Yeah, they were definitely putting drugs.

02:22:40.000 They were selling drugs, and they were doing it all through Freeway Ricky Ross.

02:22:43.000 Yeah.

02:22:43.000 And then they locked him up.

02:22:44.000 And they locked him up and he figured out how to be a lawyer in jail.

02:22:48.000 He couldn't even read when he went to jail.

02:22:49.000 He learned how to read and then became a lawyer and realized they had tried him for double jeopardy incorrectly.

02:22:55.000 Because for double jeopardy, like when someone has like three strikes, three strikes, right?

02:23:00.000 Not double jeopardy, three strikes.

02:23:02.000 So when someone does that, it's supposed to be like three separate times.

02:23:06.000 It's not like three different things that you charge them for at once.

02:23:10.000 And for his second arrest, they had used that, but they used it incorrectly.

02:23:15.000 I hope I'm not fucking that up.

02:23:16.000 So did he get out?

02:23:17.000 Yes.

02:23:17.000 Oh, okay.

02:23:18.000 Yes, he got out.

02:23:20.000 And his story's insane.

02:23:22.000 It's an insane story because it's all true and verified.

02:23:25.000 That guy was making millions and millions of dollars.

02:23:27.000 He couldn't even read at the time.

02:23:28.000 He was a tennis player. 0.99

02:23:29.000 He's a fucking very smart guy. 0.99

02:23:31.000 And he didn't know how to read. 1.00

02:23:35.000 And he figured out how to do it in jail once they arrested him and learned how to become a lawyer.

02:23:39.000 That's miraculous.

02:23:41.000 Is there a movie about him?

02:23:43.000 No, there's a whole show about him.

02:23:45.000 Well, there's also Rick Ross the Rapper.

02:23:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:23:47.000 Well, I think they had an issue at first.

02:23:49.000 They did.

02:23:49.000 Because he's like, I'm actually...

02:23:51.000 Actually Rick Ross.

02:23:52.000 Yeah, it's like someone calling themselves John Gotti.

02:23:55.000 Right.

02:23:55.000 And then John Gotti gets out of jail.

02:23:56.000 Like, hey...

02:23:57.000 Well, you know, there's a lot of rappers that name themselves out of, like, mafiosos.

02:24:00.000 Sure.

02:24:00.000 Sure!

02:24:01.000 Because there's a Yo Gotti rapper.

02:24:04.000 I forget his name, but the guy that used to run Murder, Inc., something else Gotti.

02:24:09.000 Irv Gotti.

02:24:13.000 There's Rick Ross.

02:24:15.000 I think Biggie used to call himself something slim.

02:24:23.000 I'm getting... 0.99

02:24:24.000 My shit's getting crossed up. 0.99

02:24:25.000 But a lot of rappers do that. 0.99

02:24:26.000 What did Superfly sell?

02:24:29.000 Was Superfly a drug dealer in that movie? 1.00

02:24:33.000 I think he sold pussy. 1.00

02:24:34.000 That sounded like a pimp. 1.00

02:24:35.000 Was that what he was?

02:24:36.000 I don't believe.

02:24:38.000 I think he was selling drugs.

02:24:40.000 I think that was the idea.

02:24:43.000 That was like...

02:24:44.000 Cocaine.

02:24:45.000 Cocaine?

02:24:46.000 Yeah.

02:24:46.000 Okay.

02:24:47.000 Yeah.

02:24:48.000 Yeah, cocaine.

02:24:48.000 And you know what's crazy?

02:24:49.000 We do so much cocaine.

02:24:51.000 The United States does an insane amount of cocaine.

02:24:53.000 I think Britain still does more than us.

02:24:55.000 That's amazing.

02:24:57.000 You're talking about a place...

02:24:58.000 I think Texas might be bigger than Great Britain.

02:25:01.000 Yes.

02:25:02.000 Well, it rains over there so much.

02:25:03.000 They just want to just get...

02:25:04.000 They do so much cocaine over there.

02:25:06.000 It's crazy.

02:25:07.000 Get gacked up. 1.00

02:25:08.000 That's why their fucking food sucks. 1.00

02:25:10.000 Their food doesn't suck anymore. 1.00

02:25:12.000 No?

02:25:13.000 No, there's some amazing chefs over there.

02:25:15.000 Yeah, and you can get some really good food in England now.

02:25:17.000 That was like an old thing that people said.

02:25:20.000 No, I mean, when we went there.

02:25:21.000 That was my only time there.

02:25:22.000 Albania.

02:25:22.000 You didn't think that was great steak?

02:25:25.000 No.

02:25:26.000 How dare you?

02:25:26.000 I thought everything else was good.

02:25:29.000 The potatoes were good.

02:25:30.000 England and what?

02:25:32.000 Albania is number one?

02:25:33.000 Annual prevalence percentage, which I'm not exactly sure.

02:25:35.000 Whoa, so 5.9% of the people do...

02:25:40.000 Over the age of 12, which is...

02:25:43.000 They're doing coke at the age of 12. That's a crazy way to measure.

02:25:46.000 Oh my God.

02:25:47.000 How you find out that 12-year-olds...

02:25:49.000 That's Rose's people. 1.00

02:25:50.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:25:51.000 Rose from the Comedy Store. 0.99

02:25:52.000 That's her people. 1.00

02:25:54.000 Albanians? 0.75

02:25:54.000 Wow, folks. 0.75

02:25:55.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:25:56.000 Albanians. 1.00

02:25:57.000 6% do cocaine?

02:25:58.000 That's wild.

02:25:58.000 Let me see the list again.

02:25:59.000 I'm trying to find a better one to see.

02:26:00.000 That one's fun.

02:26:01.000 Well, I just lost it.

02:26:03.000 That one's a good one.

02:26:04.000 If they broke it down by city, it would be a whole other thing.

02:26:06.000 Right.

02:26:07.000 Yeah, because some cities are... 0.99

02:26:08.000 Like Miami would fucking dominate the country in the cocaine Olympics. 0.99

02:26:12.000 Miami, Los Angeles. 0.99

02:26:13.000 Miami, though, would really...

02:26:15.000 I mean, that city was built on cocaine.

02:26:18.000 Wow, look at that.

02:26:19.000 So the United States is only number three.

02:26:21.000 We've got to do better.

02:26:22.000 We've got to do better.

02:26:23.000 All the Coke's coming into this country and we can't get into number one.

02:26:26.000 But what does annual prevalence mean?

02:26:30.000 Probably per year.

02:26:31.000 How many times do you do Coke at least once a year?

02:26:34.000 And it looks like...

02:26:36.000 Am I reading that correctly?

02:26:37.000 It's the percentage of the youth and adult population who have consumed the drug at least once in the past year.

02:26:42.000 Yeah, so it's 2.9 for America?

02:26:45.000 Yeah.

02:26:46.000 And that's just all the people that are telling the truth.

02:26:48.000 Yeah, a lot of people are lying.

02:26:50.000 Probably more than.

02:26:51.000 And how many of those people that aren't lying are on Adderall?

02:26:54.000 Because it feels like more than 4%.

02:26:56.000 A lot of people are doing it.

02:26:58.000 I feel like whenever I'm in a room and cocaine comes up, because I don't do cocaine.

02:27:05.000 But I am always in the minority.

02:27:08.000 Both of the people are like, oh yeah, I'll do something.

02:27:11.000 You know?

02:27:12.000 I've never done coke.

02:27:13.000 It doesn't affect me.

02:27:14.000 I've never even tried it.

02:27:16.000 And at first I thought maybe I was doing it wrong or I did the wrong kind.

02:27:19.000 People would constantly try to convince me.

02:27:23.000 There's a theory that kids that were on Ritalin don't have the same...

02:27:29.000 Cocaine doesn't have the same effect on them.

02:27:32.000 Oh, interesting.

02:27:34.000 Yeah.

02:27:35.000 Well, that makes sense.

02:27:35.000 You probably have a tolerance for speed.

02:27:38.000 Oh, is that what Ritalin is?

02:27:39.000 It's very speedy.

02:27:41.000 I don't know if it's technically a speed, but it's very speedy for some people. 0.99

02:27:46.000 It makes them like Henry Rollins was on it when he was a kid, and he talked about it, and he'd be like, fucking... 0.95

02:27:53.000 He thinks it had a big effect on him. 0.97

02:27:55.000 I'm pretty sure Henry said that.

02:27:57.000 I think that was Ritalin that he was on, right?

02:28:00.000 Okay, it says, Ritalin acts much like cocaine.

02:28:03.000 Advanced imaging research has answered a 40-year-old question about methylphenidate, which is Ritalin.

02:28:11.000 Which is taken daily by 4 million to 6 million children in the United States.

02:28:16.000 How does it work?

02:28:17.000 The answer may unsettle many parents because the drug acts much like cocaine.

02:28:22.000 Albeit cocaine dripped through molasses.

02:28:25.000 Neuroski.

02:28:26.000 Neuroski?

02:28:28.000 Oh.

02:28:29.000 That was like, what did they say?

02:28:31.000 Taken orally in pill form.

02:28:33.000 It rarely produces a high and has not been reported to be addictive.

02:28:38.000 However, injected as a liquid, it sends a jolt that addicts very much, addicts very much, rather, says Nora Volkov, MD, psychiatrist and imaging expert at Brookhaven National Laboratory.

02:28:53.000 They say it's like cocaine. 0.99

02:28:54.000 So when you inject it into someone, who the fuck is injecting a riddle? 0.99

02:28:58.000 I don't know how people found that out. 0.99

02:28:59.000 How do they make that...

02:29:00.000 It acts like...

02:29:02.000 That's a misleading title.

02:29:03.000 It acts much like cocaine when you inject it in someone.

02:29:07.000 They were saying that it doesn't cause that when you take the pill for them.

02:29:10.000 Or maybe it's a very, very mild cocaine effect.

02:29:15.000 I don't know, but people that I know that have taken it describe it like that. 0.99

02:29:19.000 Henry Rollins described it like he was just like, fucking... 0.99

02:29:23.000 Like gritting his teeth all day. 0.99

02:29:24.000 It gave me bad anxiety.

02:29:28.000 Also, the thing about things like that is who knows what's going to work for you and what's not going to work for you.

02:29:37.000 There's so much involved in trying stuff on you.

02:29:41.000 If you don't feel good, they don't know what's going on in your head.

02:29:44.000 What does that mean? 0.94

02:29:46.000 This is what really fucked me up.

02:29:49.000 When they first put me on it, I didn't like how it make me felt like the first couple times I took it. 0.51

02:29:58.000 So after that, I was sneaking spit it out, right?

02:30:01.000 And after like a month of me...

02:30:02.000 So I took it for a week.

02:30:03.000 I didn't like how it made me feel.

02:30:04.000 Why did they put you on it?

02:30:06.000 I was in foster care and I was like...

02:30:08.000 Basically, I was ADD. It's ADHD, but they called it ADD back then.

02:30:13.000 And the teacher was like, he's smart, but he can't sit still. 1.00

02:30:17.000 And that kind of shit, right? 1.00

02:30:18.000 And so for three weeks, I was spitting this shit out. 1.00

02:30:21.000 And then we had a parent-teacher conference. 1.00

02:30:23.000 And so I wasn't even on the shit. 0.99

02:30:26.000 And you know how sometimes, and I don't recommend parents do this, but adults would talk about me like I wasn't there. 0.98

02:30:33.000 Right, right, right.

02:30:34.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:30:35.000 And these motherfuckers, the teacher, the guidance counselor, and my foster mother, they all sitting around talking about how... 0.99

02:30:42.000 Yeah, I really noticed the progress. 1.00

02:30:45.000 And it was my first time.

02:30:46.000 I'm sitting there, you know, seven, eight years old. 1.00

02:30:48.000 I'm like, these motherfuckers are full of shit. 1.00

02:30:49.000 Like, I didn't have the words to say that. 1.00

02:30:51.000 But that's how I felt. 1.00

02:30:52.000 I was like, they're all full of shit. 1.00

02:30:53.000 They don't know about any of this shit. 1.00

02:30:55.000 And so, for the longest time, I refused any of the shit they gave me. 1.00

02:30:59.000 Like, once I had the power to say no, I was like, fuck those pills. 1.00

02:31:01.000 Because they tried to put me on Prozac, too, when I was a teenager. 0.99

02:31:05.000 And I was like, how you know this ain't...

02:31:06.000 They experimenting on me. 1.00

02:31:07.000 How you know this shit? 1.00

02:31:08.000 What does this shit do? 1.00

02:31:09.000 Well, also, the thing that drives me crazy about kids that won't sit still is that no kid wants to sit still. 1.00

02:31:18.000 The idea that you want kids to sit still, it's so...

02:31:21.000 I know you're trying to give them discipline and train them to be good students, but that is absolutely not what they want to do.

02:31:29.000 Kids are like puppies.

02:31:30.000 They want to run around.

02:31:32.000 They want to have fun.

02:31:33.000 That's natural.

02:31:34.000 That's a 100% natural way to live as a kid. 0.99

02:31:37.000 They make you sit down in a fucking room and listen to some boring shit and maybe you're behind in classes so you can't even follow what the fuck they're talking about because you're not up to that level of whatever it is. 0.99

02:31:50.000 No, it was the opposite. 1.00

02:31:51.000 For me, I was like, I get it.

02:31:54.000 Oh, so it was boring.

02:31:56.000 Even better.

02:31:58.000 So if that's the case, imagine the solution is to drug you. 1.00

02:32:02.000 It's not like, he's so smart, this is all stupid to him. 1.00

02:32:05.000 That was Einstein. 1.00

02:32:07.000 Einstein failed seventh grade.

02:32:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:32:10.000 Like, how the fuck can you... 1.00

02:32:12.000 If you fail Einstein, I mean, you gotta think that maybe the way you're teaching is kind of fucked. 1.00

02:32:18.000 Yeah, because I forget who the fuck it was. 0.99

02:32:20.000 I think the guy's name was Tom Hartman, but he was like a political guy that I used to listen to a long time ago, but he was talking about how there was a... 0.99

02:32:27.000 When he was coming up, there was a school in Boston...

02:32:31.000 Where they would send these kids, I don't think they called it ADD back then, but the theory was that it was actually an evolutionary benefit because the person that was, it's not that you can't pay attention, it's that your attention is split.

02:32:46.000 So the guy that was hyper-aware would help the tribe survive or whatever.

02:32:51.000 There's that, but it's also they're bored.

02:32:53.000 They want excitement.

02:32:55.000 There's a thing about children.

02:32:57.000 They want things that stimulate them.

02:33:01.000 And when the education doesn't stimulate them, it's just this drone.

02:33:04.000 It's like a trumpet in your face. 0.99

02:33:08.000 You want to get the fuck out of there. 1.00

02:33:09.000 It's normal. 0.99

02:33:10.000 Being a smart kid is kind of a curse in the wrong environment. 0.88

02:33:15.000 Because you know the teachers that always got the best out of me was the ones that were fucking hyped about the subject they were teaching. 0.75

02:33:22.000 It might have felt like a curse. 0.73

02:33:24.000 You might have at the time felt like it was a curse, but it's 100% not a curse. 1.00

02:33:28.000 The curse is to be born stupid. 1.00

02:33:31.000 That's the real curse. 1.00

02:33:33.000 You are way better off being a smart guy who feels out of place in a stupid neighborhood than you are a stupid guy in a smart neighborhood. 1.00

02:33:43.000 Yeah, you're right. 1.00

02:33:44.000 You don't want to be the dumb guy. 1.00

02:33:46.000 You don't want to be the dumb guy. 1.00

02:33:47.000 And it took me a long time to stop acting stupid so I could fit in. 1.00

02:33:52.000 Oh, interesting. 0.99

02:33:54.000 Yeah, because I wasn't just a smart kid.

02:33:58.000 I was also a foster kid.

02:34:00.000 Right.

02:34:00.000 So it would be like, I would finally, finally feel like I'm kind of sort of fitting in, and then I would move.

02:34:06.000 And now I'm this new kid in a new school.

02:34:09.000 You know, when you're a new kid in a school, everyone's paying attention to you.

02:34:11.000 And I know the answer, but I know if I raise my hand, it's going to draw more attention.

02:34:16.000 Right, and you're going to be Mr. Smarty Pants.

02:34:18.000 Right.

02:34:19.000 Oh, Mr. Know-it-all.

02:34:20.000 Right?

02:34:20.000 And it was like, so I got into this habit of just dumbing myself down so that I would be...

02:34:26.000 Cool or whatever, but as an adult now, looking back, I realized no one thought I was cool anyway.

02:34:34.000 I'm way cooler now than I'm just myself than I was when I was trying to be somebody else.

02:34:38.000 Yeah, but that's part of being a kid and especially being a foster kid and getting moved around the way you did.

02:34:43.000 That's got to be an insanely challenging thing.

02:34:46.000 But that's also why you're so interesting.

02:34:49.000 People develop character through adversity.

02:34:53.000 True, true.

02:34:53.000 I don't think there's any other way that we acquire it.

02:34:56.000 It feels like a curse when it's happening, you know, when, like, you know, your fucking life sucks and nothing goes your way and you keep failing, you keep falling flat on your ass, but that terrible feeling of you not... 0.99

02:35:11.000 Meeting your goals and achieving things and getting something going on in your life, those terrible feelings create a more resilient, more focused person. 0.99

02:35:20.000 That applies to everything.

02:35:22.000 Well, finding comedy is like I found my tribe. 0.99

02:35:25.000 Once I found comedy and I was like, oh, it's all these other fucking people that be thinking and saying weird shit. 0.99

02:35:34.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:35:34.000 And wondering about dumb shit like it was it was like Like a glove. 1.00

02:35:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:35:40.000 Yeah, that's why you know when Mitzi would talk about the the comedy store She would call it the island of misfit toys. 1.00

02:35:47.000 That's what you call Yeah, it really is the island of misfit toys because people come people think people try to Have concert make it controversial like some of the shit we say on stage But if you heard the shit we said to each other It's a whole other level. 0.69

02:36:07.000 Because that's the only way we can make each other laugh. 0.93

02:36:09.000 Also, there's zero stakes.

02:36:12.000 Oh, right, right.

02:36:13.000 And you get props for it, for going too deep. 0.99

02:36:16.000 Like, if we're out at dinner and Tony Hinchcliffe says some fucking insane shit that you could never say... 0.98

02:36:23.000 Sometimes you ever forget that, like... 0.98

02:36:26.000 There's a not comic around and you forget all the time.

02:36:30.000 And you're like, oh, they probably don't.

02:36:32.000 Yeah.

02:36:33.000 But I'm telling you, those of y'all listening out there, there's nothing better.

02:36:39.000 Than, you know, five or six comics that know each other and trust each other with no recording devices around and we're high and we're just mind.

02:36:52.000 To me, it's almost like the equivalent of a rap cypher.

02:36:58.000 It's something we automatically fall into to keep each other sharp.

02:37:01.000 It's an exercise that we just do.

02:37:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:37:05.000 Well, I think that's what podcasts are in a way, too.

02:37:09.000 Yeah, and we're spoiled.

02:37:11.000 Yeah, we're definitely spoiled. 0.91

02:37:12.000 Because if you try to have a conversation with a knucklehead, it's not fun.

02:37:16.000 That's why the pandemic fucked a lot of comics up, like the lockdowns, because a lot of people don't realize, you being exposed to such a high level of thought experiments and just mental stimulation Every night,

02:37:34.000 you're near some of the most abstract thinkers, and they're giving you ideas in different angles, and you're spoiled by that.

02:37:43.000 And then all of a sudden, it's nothing.

02:37:46.000 You know?

02:37:47.000 You just get a text that says, hope all is well.

02:37:50.000 That ain't doing it.

02:37:52.000 Like, six months ago, you were talking about aliens and aliens. 0.84

02:37:57.000 If humanity was started from an alien doing mushrooms or whatever the fuck, right? 0.99

02:38:02.000 You were having those kind of conversations every fucking day. 0.99

02:38:06.000 And you took it for granted. 0.99

02:38:07.000 And then all of a sudden it's not available to you.

02:38:09.000 And your mind is used to just constantly getting new things to think about and piece together.

02:38:15.000 It's just gone.

02:38:16.000 I was real lucky that during the pandemic we kept doing the podcast.

02:38:20.000 We never stopped.

02:38:22.000 We tested everybody.

02:38:23.000 We did a lot of different things.

02:38:25.000 In the early days, it was very touch and go.

02:38:27.000 Because, you know, they're testing you for antibodies.

02:38:30.000 They're not even testing you, like, necessarily for COVID. It took a little while before they could test for COVID. Right, right.

02:38:35.000 We just had everybody just, you know, be honest about how you feel.

02:38:39.000 Be honest about whether or not you've been exposed.

02:38:42.000 Constantly get tested. 1.00

02:38:43.000 I get tested every fucking day. 0.99

02:38:46.000 And then, you know, you got to monitor yourself, too. 0.99

02:38:48.000 But it was weird because, like, everybody that was coming in had been isolated.

02:38:53.000 So we knew that we weren't exposed to other people other than these people that we're doing the shows with.

02:38:59.000 But then I did a gig in Houston at the Improv in July.

02:39:06.000 It was kind of the heart of everything.

02:39:07.000 And then I didn't get sick, but I got really high.

02:39:10.000 And I got super paranoid that, oh, my God, what if I got sick?

02:39:12.000 And then I started thinking about it, like, what if I got sick and I infected somebody?

02:39:15.000 I'm like, I know I'm not sick right now, I don't feel sick, but what if I got it?

02:39:18.000 Then I was thinking, oh my god, like, I can't do any more of these shows, so I have to stop.

02:39:23.000 I was like, I gotta stop.

02:39:25.000 And so we stopped for months and months and months until we did these shows outside with Chappelle.

02:39:30.000 We did the stub shows because then we tested the whole audience.

02:39:33.000 We tested everybody.

02:39:34.000 We had a COVID bubble.

02:39:35.000 We tested the whole audience.

02:39:37.000 Everybody got tested.

02:39:39.000 And then we did those for a while and then as things relaxed more and more.

02:39:45.000 So I was able to do the podcast through the entire thing.

02:39:50.000 By the time we came here, they had rapid tests.

02:39:52.000 They had these rapid antigen tests.

02:39:55.000 They could find out whether or not you're positive in 15 minutes.

02:39:57.000 You'd have probably lost your mind if you couldn't.

02:40:00.000 Yeah, I would have definitely gone into a different headspace.

02:40:03.000 I think a little bit of silence and relaxation and removal from the world sometimes just to get an introspective We're good to go.

02:40:33.000 The one advantage that you have is that now you could look at life in its pure state.

02:40:39.000 Life in its pure state is just people around the people that they love.

02:40:43.000 And you're just hanging out together.

02:40:45.000 And you're locked in together and you're in a place of elevated risk.

02:40:51.000 Because everybody's a little heightened by the fact that they all know that everything's been locked down.

02:40:56.000 And there's some meat being smoked.

02:40:57.000 A little bit of that is good. 1.00

02:40:59.000 The problem with people is that shit went on too long. 0.99

02:41:02.000 It went on way too long, and it fucked people up psychologically, whether they realize it or not. 1.00

02:41:05.000 Oh, isolation. 0.93

02:41:07.000 Isolation.

02:41:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:41:08.000 Isolation and fear and anxiety.

02:41:10.000 Because you've got to think, there's certain people that had a level of anxiety that was already very high, and then the pandemic comes, and everyone they see might kill them by breathing on them. 0.94

02:41:19.000 And you see people, and whether or not masks work or not, you see people with no masks, you're fucking furious. 0.98

02:41:24.000 That could be the one that fucking kills me. 0.97

02:41:25.000 I remember when it first started, and I Yeah. 0.97

02:41:36.000 Like, what if that was the one that's gonna, you know, it was like, it was rough for a few months.

02:41:41.000 It was also rough because no one really knew what the effects were yet. 0.99

02:41:45.000 You know that shit they have in Korea? 1.00

02:41:46.000 It's like a phenomenon. 1.00

02:41:48.000 They've named it.

02:41:49.000 But it's like a people that, like, isolate themselves.

02:41:52.000 It's a sickness.

02:41:53.000 They isolate themselves and they just stay locked.

02:41:56.000 They're shutting.

02:41:57.000 They're watching video games?

02:41:58.000 Or whatever.

02:41:59.000 They just don't leave the house.

02:42:00.000 They leave the house as little as possible.

02:42:02.000 They have a name for it.

02:42:04.000 And it's a problem.

02:42:05.000 And it's been for years.

02:42:06.000 And it's like we basically did that to everyone.

02:42:08.000 To everyone.

02:42:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:42:10.000 And the really fucked up thing is they did that to kids. 0.98

02:42:13.000 So these kids are going to have a hard... 0.97

02:42:15.000 And also they did a lot of communicating with masks on to kids and then kids to other kids that they forced them to wear masks.

02:42:20.000 So, the way children learn how to talk, a big part of it is like watching people talk, like watching facial expressions.

02:42:28.000 That's how you learn.

02:42:29.000 You learn from people.

02:42:31.000 You learn, like, the way we communicate with each other.

02:42:33.000 You see facial expressions.

02:42:34.000 You recreate them.

02:42:36.000 Like, this is me going, wow, I didn't know that, you know?

02:42:39.000 They have to learn that. 1.00

02:42:40.000 Half your fucking face is covered by a diaper. 1.00

02:42:44.000 Nobody can see that. 1.00

02:42:45.000 It's like bad for development. 0.93

02:42:46.000 So we have no fucking idea what kind of impact that's going to have. 0.65

02:42:49.000 So what do you think? 0.98

02:42:50.000 So say there's a pandemic.

02:42:52.000 Another one.

02:42:53.000 And there's no controversy. 1.00

02:42:55.000 Like, this shit is deadly. 1.00

02:42:58.000 No one disagrees. 1.00

02:42:59.000 It'll be what we experience times 10. It'll be just as fucked up in terms of, like, the anxiety levels. 0.99

02:43:06.000 They'll be even higher, actually. 0.99

02:43:08.000 Right?

02:43:08.000 Because people will be, you know, now that this, if this is like the Spanish flu or something like that, it killed millions and millions and millions of people.

02:43:16.000 I think people will, I think there would still eventually be a point where people were like, Fuck it. 0.99

02:43:22.000 It's worth it. 0.99

02:43:24.000 Eventually, yeah.

02:43:25.000 But if it's something that's fatal to like a large percentage of the people that catch it, not a small percentage like COVID. I mean, think about what ultimately COVID was like, what percentage of the people that got COVID died?

02:43:39.000 Jamie, what percentage of the people that got COVID died?

02:43:42.000 Just overall.

02:43:43.000 Let's just include old people. 1.00

02:43:45.000 Let's not be ageist.

02:43:46.000 Include young people, old people. 1.00

02:43:53.000 Let's see what we got here.

02:43:54.000 What do you guess?

02:43:55.000 I'm gonna say...

02:43:58.000 4%.

02:44:00.000 Let's just say 5%.

02:44:07.000 Let's round it out.

02:44:07.000 I don't think it's that high.

02:44:08.000 You don't think it's that high?

02:44:09.000 No.

02:44:10.000 I think that would be a lot more people.

02:44:13.000 The amount of people that died from it, I think it's like 3%.

02:44:17.000 3%?

02:44:18.000 I think it's 3. I'm not sure though.

02:44:20.000 It might be lower than that.

02:44:21.000 Actually, no, it's got to be lower than that. 0.98

02:44:23.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 0.95

02:44:24.000 Because 3% is insane. 0.99

02:44:26.000 That's an insane amount of people.

02:44:28.000 Right.

02:44:29.000 Like, what do you think?

02:44:30.000 I've seen people say that it's less than 1%.

02:44:32.000 But I don't know if that's, like, if they're going, like, healthy 18 to 49. Obviously, there's a giant risk if you're old.

02:44:40.000 Old people, there's a giant risk. 1.00

02:44:42.000 I mean, it really goes up.

02:44:44.000 When you look at, like, people in their 80s, and, like, if you look at the number of people that died from COVID, a large number of them were older.

02:44:52.000 It's real dangerous for them.

02:44:53.000 Because right now, where are we at?

02:44:54.000 8 billion people on Earth?

02:44:55.000 Yeah.

02:44:55.000 And maybe half of the people caught it?

02:44:58.000 No, more than that probably at this point.

02:45:01.000 So 1% of that is... 1.00

02:45:02.000 That's a lot of fucking dead people. 0.99

02:45:03.000 That's too many people. 1.00

02:45:04.000 So it's less than 1% for sure.

02:45:06.000 We just did science.

02:45:08.000 We're scientists, though.

02:45:09.000 We're scientists, bro.

02:45:09.000 Where's my honorary degree, goddammit?

02:45:11.000 Cheers.

02:45:12.000 Cheers, man.

02:45:13.000 This has been fun.

02:45:14.000 Hell yeah.

02:45:18.000 Jamie's still doing math.

02:45:19.000 What do you think the number is?

02:45:21.000 I've seen different numbers.

02:45:22.000 What do you think it is, Jamie?

02:45:24.000 Yo, don't give us those Republican numbers.

02:45:26.000 Yeah, man, give us a real number from Politico.

02:45:34.000 I don't know.

02:45:36.000 What did they say on Truth Social?

02:45:38.000 But that's really the best...

02:45:40.000 Because that's how I feel.

02:45:41.000 I don't know...

02:45:43.000 Because, listen, when I think...

02:45:46.000 When the waters get so muddy, all you got is how you feel.

02:45:51.000 Because I'm not going to buy a microscope.

02:45:54.000 I'm not going to do the study. 0.99

02:45:57.000 Because it's become so political that both sides are kind of throwing mistruths and shit out there. 0.98

02:46:03.000 Because I don't trust any of these politicians. 0.99

02:46:05.000 Did you see that they released something today, finally, on natural immunity?

02:46:11.000 No, what is that?

02:46:12.000 The Washington Post finally published a truth about natural immunity in a piece by Lena Wendt.

02:46:18.000 She's that lady that was the expert on CNN all the time that was telling people to mask up. 1.00

02:46:22.000 Okay.

02:46:25.000 She said, vaccinated people who never had COVID... We're at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection.

02:46:38.000 So they're finally talking about that, which is really bananas.

02:46:44.000 Okay.

02:46:45.000 But also, never had COVID is weird because...

02:46:49.000 Here's another one.

02:46:50.000 Ready for this one?

02:46:52.000 Those who are vaccinated but never had COVID were four times as likely to have a severe illness resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it.

02:47:05.000 Protection from natural immunity also wanes at a slower rate than from vaccination.

02:47:16.000 Sorry, I didn't put my reading glasses on there.

02:47:19.000 Never had COVID is weird because...

02:47:22.000 Because how do you differentiate between people that never had it and people that just never tested positive for it?

02:47:26.000 That's true, too.

02:47:27.000 Because I only tested when it was something I needed to test for.

02:47:31.000 My friend Bridget had it.

02:47:33.000 She had no idea she had it.

02:47:34.000 She tested positive.

02:47:35.000 She was going to a wedding.

02:47:37.000 She tested positive.

02:47:38.000 Couldn't go.

02:47:38.000 She's like, this is crazy.

02:47:39.000 I don't feel anything.

02:47:41.000 She tested positive twice.

02:47:43.000 I got lucky, man.

02:47:44.000 I never...

02:47:46.000 I never tested positive when it was something important. 0.97

02:47:49.000 When the first time I did this podcast, I was like, please don't fucking test.

02:47:53.000 And then when I got my Netflix thing, I didn't test positive. 0.74

02:47:59.000 And I had some other important thing where it was like...

02:48:03.000 Matter of fact, when they did the festival, They had us all test.

02:48:07.000 I filmed something at the end of the festival, but for almost two weeks before that, we were just doing shows around LA. And then right when you're going to do the most important thing at the end, you got to test.

02:48:16.000 Oh boy.

02:48:17.000 I know!

02:48:18.000 I passed that one too though.

02:48:19.000 Was the shows around LA though?

02:48:21.000 A lot of them were outside shows though, right?

02:48:23.000 No.

02:48:24.000 No?

02:48:25.000 No.

02:48:25.000 By the time the festival happened, it was already...

02:48:28.000 Oh, when is the festival?

02:48:29.000 The Netflix festival.

02:48:30.000 When was that?

02:48:30.000 It was...

02:48:31.000 Oh, the recent one.

02:48:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:48:33.000 Oh, so when you said the festival, I didn't know which one you were talking about.

02:48:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:48:35.000 The one they just had, like, right at the end when everyone was, like, fine.

02:48:38.000 But I do know a motherfucker where, like, their whole thing, they were supposed to film something and they test... 0.99

02:48:45.000 They tested positive right beforehand. 1.00

02:48:47.000 They fucked their whole shit up. 1.00

02:48:48.000 Yeah, I've heard of that too. 1.00

02:48:49.000 Yeah.

02:48:50.000 Well, listen, man.

02:48:51.000 What are you going to do?

02:48:52.000 They have to abide by those rules, especially when we didn't have any way to treat it or we didn't know what was the right way to treat it.

02:49:00.000 There was a lot of that in the beginning, right?

02:49:01.000 Like they thought respirators were the way to go.

02:49:03.000 They found out they weren't.

02:49:04.000 But that's how things go when there's a pandemic.

02:49:07.000 There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking about stuff.

02:49:11.000 But when are we going to catch a break where like... 0.99

02:49:13.000 Where like the treatment is like you just gotta fuck a lot. 0.99

02:49:15.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:49:17.000 You just gotta nut twice a day. 1.00

02:49:19.000 Or I wanted it to be something crazy like weed was actually the cure.

02:49:26.000 Because stoners always say weed's the cure for everything.

02:49:29.000 Like it came out and was like TAC is actually The cure.

02:49:34.000 That's the thing.

02:49:35.000 Oh, man.

02:49:35.000 I can't wait for something like that to happen.

02:49:37.000 Well, you don't want an illness.

02:49:38.000 Just enjoy weed.

02:49:39.000 You don't need to justify your weed usage with an illness.

02:49:42.000 I got you right.

02:49:44.000 You're better off being healthy and just enjoying it on your own.

02:49:47.000 I just don't like the judgment.

02:49:48.000 Judgment from who? 1.00

02:49:49.000 Idiots that don't smoke weed? 1.00

02:49:50.000 No, but here's the wild shit, though, Joe. 1.00

02:49:55.000 I've always had... 1.00

02:49:58.000 My eyes always make me look like I'm high.

02:50:03.000 And I don't smoke weed as much as...

02:50:06.000 You look like.

02:50:09.000 Right, right.

02:50:10.000 Jim Brewer.

02:50:12.000 That's the perfect example.

02:50:13.000 Jim Brewer.

02:50:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:14.000 Jim Brewer looks like he's constantly high.

02:50:16.000 And he is not...

02:50:17.000 I guarantee you, he's not high nearly as much as people assume.

02:50:20.000 I don't even know if he gets high anymore.

02:50:22.000 He went through a long period where he definitely didn't get high.

02:50:25.000 He was getting too high.

02:50:26.000 Jim Brewer?

02:50:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:50:27.000 Decided to back off.

02:50:28.000 And he was in half-baked.

02:50:31.000 Yeah, because that's the thing.

02:50:32.000 I can only get super high when I'm fine.

02:50:38.000 It doesn't solve my problems.

02:50:39.000 If I'm having anxiety or depression or something like that, weed doesn't make me feel better.

02:50:44.000 No, it makes you freak out about whatever that thing is.

02:50:46.000 Yeah, it makes me feel way, way worse.

02:50:48.000 Because I think too much.

02:50:50.000 Yeah, I think way too much about it. 1.00

02:50:52.000 But I'm going to show you this damn picture. 0.99

02:50:55.000 Because I get this all the damn time. 1.00

02:50:58.000 Motherfucker. 1.00

02:51:03.000 So... 1.00

02:51:03.000 God damn it. 1.00

02:51:05.000 What is this in relation to? 0.99

02:51:06.000 This is my baby picture.

02:51:08.000 I look high as a baby.

02:51:11.000 I'm gonna show you because I'm not making this up.

02:51:15.000 Right... 0.99

02:51:16.000 God damn. 1.00

02:51:18.000 Right... 0.99

02:51:21.000 Did I take it down?

02:51:22.000 You need an iPhone. 1.00

02:51:23.000 This is bullshit. 0.99

02:51:24.000 You know, an iPhone, I don't know if you could do that in these primitive Android devices, but you could make folders. 0.99

02:51:30.000 I don't see it no way.

02:51:31.000 You could have like a favorites folder.

02:51:33.000 I could have saved it and labeled it and stuff.

02:51:35.000 You can't do that in your little Google photo gallery?

02:51:38.000 I'm sure I can.

02:51:39.000 Do you have all your pictures just lumped in together?

02:51:41.000 Man, I'm...

02:51:42.000 You don't have no albums?

02:51:45.000 I'm like semi-organized.

02:51:47.000 I'm organizing a bunch.

02:51:48.000 Wait a minute then.

02:51:49.000 Why do you like gadgets so much? 0.99

02:51:51.000 I thought you'd like them because they help you organize shit. 0.90

02:51:54.000 I just like them because it feels like the future. 0.92

02:51:58.000 I feel like I'm tiptoed just into the future.

02:52:03.000 Some dudes have all their jokes written out on a spreadsheet.

02:52:08.000 No.

02:52:09.000 The time of each joke.

02:52:11.000 I use three different apps.

02:52:14.000 For my joke stuff.

02:52:16.000 Yeah, you were telling me that.

02:52:17.000 Do you use the Elephant one?

02:52:21.000 I use Evernote, yeah.

02:52:22.000 That's my main one just because I know that it's cross-platform, so if I ever decide to switch, I can still have it all.

02:52:28.000 That's a really good one.

02:52:29.000 But then Samsung Notes and then Google Keep is another one I use.

02:52:35.000 Somebody introduced me to one recently.

02:52:37.000 Man, because I'm telling you, the kids now, they got so much.

02:52:40.000 The Young Comics now, they're using an app called Standupper. 0.98

02:52:46.000 Yeah, and this shit, he showed it to me. 0.99

02:52:49.000 I was like, man, if I could pay somebody to transfer all my shit into it, I would. 1.00

02:52:53.000 But it's made for stand-up. 0.99

02:52:56.000 Really?

02:52:57.000 Yeah, and from you writing out a bit, it'll tell you how long it is. 0.99

02:53:00.000 No shit. 0.99

02:53:02.000 Huh. 0.99

02:53:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:53:04.000 So a comic created or someone who likes comedy? 0.98

02:53:08.000 A comic showed it to me, and from using it, I'm almost positive a fucking comic made it. 0.90

02:53:13.000 Because there's no way you would know that it's perfect for comedy. 0.79

02:53:18.000 Interesting.

02:53:19.000 Yeah, you have a little audio.

02:53:21.000 It tells you how long everything is.

02:53:23.000 Interesting. 0.98

02:53:24.000 You can put little tags on shit. 0.99

02:53:26.000 I was like, damn, who thought of all of this? 1.00

02:53:28.000 They bombed that set. 0.99

02:53:28.000 That was a great set. 0.99

02:53:29.000 The set was meh.

02:53:30.000 Oh, interesting.

02:53:32.000 Yeah.

02:53:33.000 Oh, so you write down your experiences at every open mic?

02:53:38.000 Yeah.

02:53:38.000 That's heavy.

02:53:39.000 Yeah, and it's like they're getting meticulous with it.

02:53:41.000 I'm telling you, it's almost like the way that we were talking about Khabib, where it's like... 0.97

02:53:47.000 The new generation of fighters that's coming up are learning how to counter that.

02:53:52.000 And so they're going to be unbelievable. 0.77

02:53:54.000 The new comics that are coming up now, some of them are going to be fucking incredible.

02:53:58.000 And they're learning at an accelerated rate because they have all the access to all the greats of all time on YouTube.

02:54:06.000 Yeah.

02:54:06.000 You could go on...

02:54:07.000 Red Fox...

02:54:09.000 Roddy Dangerfield, Sam Kinison.

02:54:11.000 You could get anyone.

02:54:12.000 Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy.

02:54:14.000 You can get all these specials.

02:54:15.000 You could watch them all.

02:54:16.000 You could watch anything you want.

02:54:17.000 You could watch it all day long.

02:54:19.000 If you wanted to sit down and just watch Roddy Dangerfield all day long, you could just get on YouTube.

02:54:24.000 You know what holds up?

02:54:25.000 It's Sanford and Son.

02:54:27.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:54:28.000 That shit makes me laugh. 1.00

02:54:29.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

02:54:30.000 Still.

02:54:31.000 Red Foxx.

02:54:31.000 You know, he invented the comedy album.

02:54:35.000 Really?

02:54:36.000 He basically, yeah, he was the first person to put comedy on an album.

02:54:40.000 Stand-up?

02:54:41.000 Yeah, stand-up.

02:54:42.000 Yeah.

02:54:43.000 Wow.

02:54:43.000 To my understanding.

02:54:44.000 Jamie, can you factor?

02:54:45.000 Well, he used to run a comedy club in L.A., and he would record there.

02:54:50.000 And I bought a series of Richard Pryor cassettes from a gas station once.

02:54:56.000 Cassettes?

02:54:56.000 Yeah, they had cassettes.

02:54:59.000 You know, the gas stations used to have these cassette racks.

02:55:02.000 You'd pull in to get gas, like some road trip.

02:55:06.000 And, you know, I'm on the road doing stand-up.

02:55:07.000 And I pull into this place, and I'm like, get a snack or something. 0.95

02:55:11.000 And they always have, like, hats and trinkets and shit. 0.97

02:55:13.000 And they would have cassettes so you could buy shit that you could listen to. 0.98

02:55:16.000 Because there was no Sirius XM radio. 0.99

02:55:18.000 There was none of that back then.

02:55:19.000 Right, right.

02:55:19.000 So I found these recordings from Red Fox's Comedy Club, and they're available now.

02:55:25.000 You can get some of them, I think.

02:55:27.000 At least one of them, for sure, on YouTube.

02:55:29.000 You can get the whole recording.

02:55:31.000 But it was crazy, man.

02:55:33.000 It was like you could hear the clink of the glasses. 1.00

02:55:36.000 It was Richard Pryor fucking around on stage, just like inventing shit and being loose. 1.00

02:55:41.000 And early, early days, man. 0.99

02:55:44.000 It's important to have a place where you feel that comfortable. 0.99

02:55:48.000 Have a club where you feel at home and you can fuck around. 0.98

02:55:52.000 You know, that's how Earthquake got so strong. 0.98

02:55:55.000 You know the Earthquake story?

02:55:56.000 No, but I know he's a beast. 0.60

02:55:58.000 He's a beast, dude. 0.88

02:55:59.000 He took over a comedy club in Atlanta.

02:56:03.000 And when he took over this comedy club in Atlanta, he had to be on stage every night.

02:56:08.000 So he was on stage constantly.

02:56:10.000 So he was doing like what the Beatles did when they went to Hamburg and they were playing like eight hours a day.

02:56:17.000 That's how they got so good.

02:56:19.000 That's also in that Malcolm Gladwell book. 0.99

02:56:21.000 When the Beatles went back to Liverpool, everybody's like, what the fuck did you guys do? 0.97

02:56:26.000 How are you so good? 0.97

02:56:27.000 Like, what the hell happened?

02:56:28.000 That's what I did.

02:56:29.000 Numbers.

02:56:30.000 Just numbers.

02:56:31.000 When I first started, I was pretty bad.

02:56:34.000 But then I started working at this comedy club that had just opened.

02:56:41.000 And so I was learning how to do everything.

02:56:43.000 I was basically their first door guy. 0.99

02:56:44.000 And I fucking ran the shows and sold the tickets and sat and answered the phones and did every fucking thing. 0.99

02:56:51.000 And I was on stage every fucking night. 0.99

02:56:53.000 And I only went there. 0.99

02:56:55.000 And then everybody else saw me that hadn't seen me and was like, how the fuck did you? 0.92

02:56:59.000 And I was like, I was just doing this every day. 0.91

02:57:01.000 Like, literally every day.

02:57:02.000 Every day.

02:57:03.000 Yeah.

02:57:03.000 And I don't know if I can do that now.

02:57:08.000 Don't say that.

02:57:10.000 Yeah?

02:57:10.000 Every night?

02:57:11.000 If you had to.

02:57:12.000 You could definitely do it.

02:57:13.000 It's a lot of fun.

02:57:14.000 Well, see, but back then...

02:57:16.000 I think I overcorrected.

02:57:18.000 Because back then, like I said, I was so excited to finally find my thing that I became obsessed about it.

02:57:24.000 But it was to the detriment of everything else in my life.

02:57:26.000 That's how it always works.

02:57:28.000 Yeah.

02:57:28.000 It was like, yeah.

02:57:29.000 So I was like, it wasn't healthy, but it was necessary.

02:57:33.000 Yeah.

02:57:33.000 If you want to get really good at everything, that's the problem.

02:57:36.000 Like someone has a quote about that.

02:57:38.000 It's like, that's why Tom Brady getting divorced.

02:57:40.000 You think that's why?

02:57:41.000 Yeah, because you can't be that good and be a good...

02:57:45.000 You can't be a great anything and be a great...

02:57:48.000 A good other things.

02:57:50.000 Yeah, I mean, maybe you can be great at two...

02:57:52.000 Maybe you can be a great husband and a great...

02:57:55.000 Quarterback.

02:57:56.000 But you can't be a great quarterback, a great husband, a great father, a great friend, you know, a great businessman.

02:58:02.000 Yeah, it's like, you can't! 1.00

02:58:03.000 That's why they're getting on for that FTX shit. 0.99

02:58:05.000 Like, do you think he read that? 0.99

02:58:07.000 Do you think he had any idea what that even was about?

02:58:09.000 No.

02:58:10.000 They just said, I'll give you $5 million to say this, and he was like, alright.

02:58:13.000 Or whatever it was, probably more than that.

02:58:14.000 Yeah, he's like, sure.

02:58:15.000 In the middle of watching film, he's like, oh yeah.

02:58:17.000 Yeah, I'll do it.

02:58:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:58:19.000 Yeah.

02:58:19.000 He's probably laser-obsessed with football.

02:58:22.000 Yeah, I think the best you can be...

02:58:23.000 If you want to be a great comedian, the best you can be is a very good anything else.

02:58:29.000 Right.

02:58:29.000 Yeah.

02:58:31.000 You can be a very good dad.

02:58:32.000 You can be a very good husband and a great comedian.

02:58:34.000 I think there was also like the wife didn't want him to go back to playing football.

02:58:39.000 Yeah.

02:58:40.000 She wanted him to like...

02:58:41.000 Because she's tired of being second.

02:58:43.000 Yeah.

02:58:46.000 Women don't like... 1.00

02:58:47.000 Listen, why you think...

02:58:49.000 If you ask the average woman how they feel about their husband's PlayStation, they gonna all be like... 1.00

02:58:57.000 They fucking hate that device because he chooses it over them constantly. 0.99

02:59:04.000 Right? 0.99

02:59:05.000 And I feel like...

02:59:07.000 That's very interesting.

02:59:08.000 I feel like the way people feel...

02:59:10.000 The way some people feel loved is they need to know that you'll...

02:59:15.000 They need to know that you'll pick them over that other thing.

02:59:18.000 Right, right, right.

02:59:19.000 At least sometimes.

02:59:21.000 And they'll start creating scenarios.

02:59:23.000 Well, what if...

02:59:24.000 A bunch of comics have jokes about their wife going, if I had no legs, would you still love me? 1.00

02:59:29.000 And shit like that. 0.99

02:59:29.000 And it's the same thing. 0.99

02:59:31.000 They start creating scenarios where like, okay, babe, I love that you're a comedian.

02:59:34.000 I know that that's how I met you.

02:59:36.000 And it's the most important thing in your life.

02:59:37.000 But my mom just died.

02:59:39.000 Can't you come to the...

02:59:40.000 No.

02:59:41.000 I have a gig.

02:59:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:59:45.000 It's our anniversary.

02:59:46.000 You went out the last three nights, can't you?

02:59:48.000 No. 1.00

02:59:50.000 Eventually, that shit's gonna get exhausting. 0.99

02:59:53.000 I can't get you to pick me ever! 0.99

02:59:56.000 It's not gonna last.

02:59:59.000 It depends though.

03:00:01.000 Some women are supportive of that. 1.00

03:00:03.000 Yeah, remember that movie?

03:00:04.000 Have you seen that documentary?

03:00:05.000 Oh yeah, you talked to the guy.

03:00:06.000 Which one? 0.85

03:00:07.000 The solo clown guy? 0.59

03:00:08.000 Yes.

03:00:09.000 Same thing with that. 1.00

03:00:10.000 He told that girl, I'm going to always pick this climbing shit. 0.99

03:00:15.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

03:00:17.000 I'm going to always climb.

03:00:18.000 Yeah.

03:00:19.000 Go home.

03:00:20.000 Like, if you are the greatest of the great.

03:00:23.000 Yeah, if you're going to be the greatest of the great, you can't be...

03:00:26.000 Yeah.

03:00:26.000 You don't have time for anything else.

03:00:27.000 No!

03:00:28.000 How many people are trying to be the greatest quarterback of all time?

03:00:32.000 It's like him and a couple other dudes in the conversation, right?

03:00:35.000 Yeah, because it's a delicate balance.

03:00:39.000 If you're trying to make that happen on purpose.

03:00:41.000 I forget the kid's name, but they called him Robo Quarterback.

03:00:45.000 Where his dad tried to make him that.

03:00:49.000 Yeah.

03:00:50.000 And it drove him nuts.

03:00:51.000 Marinovich?

03:00:52.000 Yeah, Marinovich.

03:00:53.000 Todd Marinovich.

03:00:54.000 Yeah, and it's like, you can't, because it's a delicate balance, because you've got to instill it in him, but you can't.

03:01:00.000 Yeah.

03:01:01.000 Yeah.

03:01:02.000 That Marinovich guy went on to train BJ Penn.

03:01:07.000 Really?

03:01:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:01:08.000 He trained B.J. Penn for some of the greatest fights that B.J. ever had because B.J. had like an endless gas tank.

03:01:14.000 So he trained him in strength and conditioning and he had this idea that strength and conditioning was the most important thing and that you're fighting, you already know how to fight.

03:01:23.000 Like you're B.J. Penn.

03:01:24.000 You know how to do it.

03:01:25.000 You don't need to work on sparring and hitting the bag and timing and all that stuff. 1.00

03:01:31.000 You already know that shit. 0.99

03:01:32.000 What's really important is you have an endless gas tank. 1.00

03:01:35.000 A fucking insane gas tank. 0.99

03:01:37.000 And so they put him on these wild plyometric exercises. 0.99

03:01:39.000 They broke that dude for like six weeks.

03:01:42.000 But when he fought, like when he fought Sean Shirk and when he fought Diego Sanchez, that version of BJ Penn, that version, I put that version up against anybody alive or dead.

03:01:52.000 Yeah, he was a monster. 0.92

03:01:53.000 He was a monster. 0.50

03:01:54.000 When people talk about the greatest of all time, you've got to include BJ in his prime. 0.93

03:01:59.000 BJ in his prime.

03:02:00.000 People always want to look at a fighter, you look at the overall body of their work, and you make an average of their performances.

03:02:07.000 You can't do that with BJ, because in the later stages of his career, that's not the same BJ. And we don't take care of these guys.

03:02:16.000 But also, you can only burn that hot for a short amount of time when you're that good.

03:02:24.000 BJ was so ferocious in that period.

03:02:29.000 I think that's very hard to maintain, that intensity that he had. 0.98

03:02:32.000 But in that time, man, he was fucking good. 0.97

03:02:35.000 Did he go against GSP? Yes, he did. 0.98

03:02:38.000 He beat him, right?

03:02:38.000 No, GSP beat him up, man.

03:02:40.000 GSP beat him up.

03:02:44.000 He beat Matt Hughes, though.

03:02:45.000 But that wasn't in his prime when GSP beat him?

03:02:49.000 Well, no.

03:02:49.000 It was in his prime.

03:02:50.000 It was a different weight class.

03:02:51.000 Oh, okay.

03:02:52.000 BJ was going up to 170 to fight Matt Hughes, who was the welterweight champion.

03:02:56.000 But BJ was a natural guy.

03:02:57.000 He didn't take steroids. 0.99

03:02:59.000 He didn't fuck around with anything like that. 0.99

03:03:01.000 So he just was BJ Penn. 0.96

03:03:03.000 He was like the same size as he was when he's fighting people at 155 pounds and George St. Pierre is a powerhouse. 0.99

03:03:09.000 He's a very physically imposing fighter and his top game was fucking ruthless, man. 0.98

03:03:15.000 He would get guys down and beat the shit out of them, man. 0.99

03:03:17.000 George St. Pierre was a bad man in his prime. 0.99

03:03:20.000 He was a bad man and he was much bigger and he was very angry at BJ. BJ was talking all this shit and B.J. was saying that they're going to fight to the death. 0.99

03:03:30.000 He said that, like, to the death, and I'm serious.

03:03:33.000 We're going to fight to the death.

03:03:35.000 Jesus Christ.

03:03:36.000 And everybody's like, oh my God.

03:03:38.000 Remember when Matt Hughes beat GSP? Didn't that happen?

03:03:43.000 Yes, yes.

03:03:44.000 He caught him with a far side arm bar.

03:03:45.000 It was a thing of beauty.

03:03:47.000 Like one of the greatest upsets ever?

03:03:49.000 No, no, it wasn't upset.

03:03:50.000 That was at the time when Matt was the champ. 0.97

03:03:54.000 And that was, because now my memory is fucked up. 0.98

03:03:57.000 I'm so high. 0.97

03:03:58.000 But GSP was coming back.

03:04:00.000 No, no, no.

03:04:02.000 GSP won after that, but GSP lost their first encounter.

03:04:08.000 Their first encounter, Matt Hughes took him down and he caught him in a far side arm bar.

03:04:15.000 And I think GSP was going for a Kimura, and the counter to the Kimura was the far side arm bar.

03:04:21.000 So he went to hit the Kimura, and as he went to hit the Kimura, he didn't have control of Matt Hughes' body.

03:04:26.000 So Matt Hughes spun around him, and it was beautiful.

03:04:29.000 It's like a thing of beauty, like a black belt level submission. 1.00

03:04:33.000 See if you can find that.

03:04:35.000 Didn't he beat everyone that beat him?

03:04:37.000 Everyone he lost to, he came back a decent.

03:04:39.000 Everyone, yeah. 1.00

03:04:40.000 Dude, GSP was the fucking man. 0.99

03:04:43.000 And the nicest guy on earth. 1.00

03:04:45.000 You would never believe he's a stone-cold killer.

03:04:48.000 He's so friendly, so nice. 0.98

03:04:51.000 Fucking sweetest guy you're ever going to want to run into. 0.77

03:04:54.000 Is he on your GOAT list? 0.98

03:04:56.000 Oh yeah, 100%.

03:04:57.000 Yeah, if there's GOAT lists, he's on it.

03:04:59.000 So here's Matt Hughes on top.

03:05:03.000 And he's punching them and see what George tries to do.

03:05:07.000 He tries to stop it by going for a Kimura. 0.97

03:05:08.000 So the counter to the Kimura is the far side arm bar.

03:05:10.000 And that's the counter.

03:05:11.000 And he hits it perfectly.

03:05:12.000 That's brilliant.

03:05:13.000 That is like high-level black belt version of a submission.

03:05:18.000 Watch this spin.

03:05:19.000 Spin takes it.

03:05:20.000 Boom. 1.00

03:05:21.000 I mean, it's fucking art. 1.00

03:05:23.000 That's art. 1.00

03:05:24.000 That's the art in martial arts. 0.96

03:05:25.000 And someone hits a thing like that, like, God.

03:05:28.000 And you can look at that forever.

03:05:30.000 Like, for as long as there's YouTube, as long as there's all these video platforms, you'll be able to see that Farsight online.

03:05:36.000 I watched a video the other day that was like the rarest submissions.

03:05:39.000 The rarest ever?

03:05:40.000 The rarest submissions in MMA, yeah.

03:05:42.000 That would have to be the Twister, followed by the Alma Plata, and maybe the Calf Slicer.

03:05:49.000 Well, there were some that, like, those were all on the list.

03:05:52.000 But it was actually, like, not the submissions themselves, but, like, the actual times that it happened.

03:05:57.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

03:05:58.000 The actual times.

03:05:59.000 I think in the UFC there's only been two or three twisters.

03:06:03.000 And I think the same thing is like only two or three omoplatas.

03:06:07.000 And I know of one calf slicer submission that I'm thinking about, and that's Charles Oliveira.

03:06:15.000 Yeah, this was it.

03:06:16.000 Oh, this is the twister.

03:06:17.000 Well, that's called the crotch ripper, actually. 0.96

03:06:19.000 That is from the same position that you slide into the crotch. 0.98

03:06:23.000 I love that move. 0.99

03:06:24.000 Does it rip your tan apart? 0.90

03:06:25.000 It rips your legs apart.

03:06:27.000 Yeah, I mean, bro.

03:06:28.000 Do it again.

03:06:28.000 I'll show it again.

03:06:29.000 This is where it comes from.

03:06:31.000 Where it comes from, it's like back control.

03:06:32.000 You get a lockdown on one leg.

03:06:34.000 See, he's got a lockdown on the right leg.

03:06:36.000 And he takes the left leg, rather.

03:06:38.000 He takes the right leg and stretches it out. 0.99

03:06:39.000 And look, I don't give a fuck how much you training. 0.99

03:06:42.000 Your survival instincts kick in when your nuts feel like they're coming apart. 0.99

03:06:47.000 Yes, agreed.

03:06:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:06:49.000 Look at that one.

03:06:49.000 Oh, look at that knee bar.

03:06:51.000 That's a nasty knee bar from the guard.

03:06:53.000 That's Usamar Palhares.

03:06:54.000 That guy is terrifying.

03:06:56.000 So that's another knee bar from the guard.

03:06:58.000 So he's got a knee bar.

03:07:00.000 He's got a half guard, and he clamps down on the leg and gets his body sideways.

03:07:03.000 So he gets all that leverage on the knee.

03:07:06.000 That's a nasty submission, too, because you probably don't have much time to tap.

03:07:11.000 Yeah, some of these I had never even heard of.

03:07:14.000 Yeah, these are definitely not all in the UFC. So this is like he got him with a guillotine.

03:07:18.000 Go back to that.

03:07:19.000 So it's like he's got him in a guillotine, but he's got him like backwards. 1.00

03:07:24.000 Oh yeah, that's crazy.

03:07:24.000 And it's got an arm in too, and he's like all the way over to the side.

03:07:27.000 That's crazy leverage.

03:07:30.000 This is a buggy choke.

03:07:31.000 This happens pretty rarely.

03:07:33.000 There's more and more buggy chokes in jujitsu now than ever before. 0.98

03:07:37.000 The Rutolo brothers are masters at it.

03:07:39.000 But these submissions like this with the buggy choke in UFC, I think there's only been a few.

03:07:45.000 He's out right there, right?

03:07:46.000 Yeah, he's out cold.

03:07:47.000 Who's being choked?

03:07:48.000 Oh, okay.

03:07:49.000 The guy on top of him.

03:07:50.000 So what it is, is the guy gets you inside.

03:07:52.000 Go back to the buggy choke.

03:07:53.000 Guy gets you inside control, which is usually a good position to be in.

03:07:57.000 But what you do is you reach up, you grab your own leg, you trap his neck in between your leg and your arm.

03:08:05.000 So you see how he's pulling that right there?

03:08:06.000 So it's like a triangle. 0.95

03:08:08.000 Is the black dude getting choked right now? 0.81

03:08:10.000 The guy on the bottom with the hair is the one that's applying the choke. 0.52

03:08:14.000 So it's hard to see because his legs are the same color.

03:08:16.000 It's not...

03:08:20.000 He's grabbing his own leg.

03:08:21.000 Let it play out and you'll get to see.

03:08:23.000 And so he lets him go.

03:08:24.000 Both guys are white guys.

03:08:25.000 Oh, okay.

03:08:27.000 So watch, I think.

03:08:28.000 I'm not sure about that.

03:08:30.000 He's holding his arm here and his leg is in there holding the pressure down.

03:08:33.000 Yeah, it's basically like a triangle choke.

03:08:37.000 But you're doing it.

03:08:39.000 See, he's got his arm.

03:08:40.000 You want me to explain it to you?

03:08:42.000 So this is his arm.

03:08:44.000 Right.

03:08:44.000 That's the guy who's winning.

03:08:45.000 So he's got his arms clasped together.

03:08:47.000 And see how this one arm that's clasped together over his own foot is pinned down against that dude's neck.

03:08:53.000 So what you have on, you have one side, you have he's cutting off the carotid artery with his right shoulder, or his left shoulder rather.

03:09:01.000 On the other side, he's using his left leg.

03:09:03.000 So he's got the two of them together connected and squishing the neck.

03:09:07.000 See?

03:09:08.000 See how he's doing that?

03:09:09.000 Yeah.

03:09:11.000 So it's like he's using his own arm and he's got that guy's arm in place. 0.97

03:09:17.000 I mean, it's fucking brilliant. 0.99

03:09:19.000 Oh, this is vicious. 0.99

03:09:21.000 That's nasty.

03:09:21.000 That's like a Kimura from the back.

03:09:24.000 That's like, yeah, he's doing a Kimura from back control.

03:09:28.000 The Boston Crab.

03:09:29.000 Somebody got submitted with you.

03:09:30.000 Oh yeah, I saw that too.

03:09:31.000 Yeah, that's probably the rarest.

03:09:34.000 That might be the rarest.

03:09:36.000 Yeah?

03:09:36.000 Yeah, I don't know of any other people that I've ever even heard of.

03:09:40.000 I'm sure it's happened.

03:09:41.000 I'm sure it's happened on some regional scene or something like that.

03:09:44.000 I didn't know about it.

03:09:45.000 Yeah, that could never happen in the UFC. If it did, the matchmakers have some fucking explaining to do. 1.00

03:09:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:09:52.000 Or maybe it was like UFC 1 or 2. Maybe like a long time ago, but not now.

03:09:57.000 Well, it could be that a guy gets hurt.

03:10:00.000 And when guys get hurt, they don't know what's going on.

03:10:04.000 And people can put them in compromising positions much easier.

03:10:07.000 Well, since we watched the whole video, the number one here, I believe what's happening here, the guy on the bottom...

03:10:12.000 Oh, he's doing like a teepee, but he's doing it to his ribcage.

03:10:15.000 Instead of doing it as a choke, he's just crushing his ribs and his body with his arm and his legs together.

03:10:23.000 So he's just crushing the dude's ribs.

03:10:25.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that this guy is like, he says in the beginning of the video that they aren't actually like ranked in order.

03:10:32.000 Google teepee triangle.

03:10:34.000 So there's guys that are finishing triangles now, and Eddie called it the teepee.

03:10:39.000 Because it looks like a teepee.

03:10:41.000 You get your legs up there, and you get his arm in like a triangle, but instead of cinching it down, the way he tapped Hoyler in Brazil, instead of cinching it down, you clasp your hands together, and when they do that, is he going to get it here?

03:10:56.000 So when you do that, you have a pinch.

03:11:00.000 See the S-grip, and he's pinching his legs together? 0.97

03:11:03.000 Right, right, right.

03:11:04.000 So it's like a no-arm triangle.

03:11:07.000 Or rather, it's a one-arm triangle.

03:11:09.000 He does have one arm in.

03:11:10.000 And he puts him to sleep.

03:11:11.000 He had the left arm in.

03:11:13.000 So the other one has no, the buggy choke has no arms.

03:11:15.000 What are you guys doing?

03:11:17.000 The guy's got his back.

03:11:18.000 No, these two on the side.

03:11:19.000 I don't know.

03:11:20.000 They're like fighting to talk to him or something.

03:11:22.000 What's going on?

03:11:23.000 They're probably coaching.

03:11:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:11:27.000 He's probably trying, keeping his friend from being stupid. 1.00

03:11:32.000 I don't know. 1.00

03:11:34.000 That seems very weird.

03:11:35.000 Is that what it is?

03:11:36.000 It says tap tag.

03:11:38.000 That's what it says.

03:11:39.000 Oh my god, that is what it is.

03:11:41.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.

03:11:43.000 They have tag team jujitsu.

03:11:44.000 That is hilarious.

03:11:47.000 Show how he sets it up again.

03:11:49.000 So yeah, it is no arms.

03:11:52.000 So look, watch.

03:11:52.000 When he gets the leg across, he pops it out, and now he's got Man, does he have the arm on the left side?

03:11:58.000 No, he has the arm on the left side.

03:11:59.000 No, he doesn't have it in.

03:12:00.000 He reached for a tag there before he passed out.

03:12:02.000 Right, but the left side, it seems like the arm's trapped, right?

03:12:05.000 Oh, you're talking about the dude in the yellow's arm?

03:12:07.000 Yeah.

03:12:08.000 Back it up a little bit.

03:12:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's trapped.

03:12:11.000 That was the only thing that makes sense.

03:12:12.000 I have seen people do scissor chokes without an arm in, where guys' legs squeezed are so good if they get a hold of your neck, particularly if they get you in a crucifix position, you can't defend right.

03:12:25.000 They clamp down on your neck just with their legs just squeezing like a scissors position. 0.89

03:12:31.000 Bro, in those situations, man, a lot of times, your life really is in those referees' hands.

03:12:35.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

03:12:36.000 Because it doesn't take that long.

03:12:37.000 Like, if it's a blood choke, it doesn't take that long for you to die.

03:12:40.000 Right.

03:12:41.000 If somebody lets you hold on to that for, like, five minutes.

03:12:43.000 Oh, yeah.

03:12:44.000 I don't even think it's that long. 0.91

03:12:46.000 How long before it kills you? 0.81

03:12:48.000 It's seconds.

03:12:49.000 It's not minutes.

03:12:50.000 Really?

03:12:51.000 Yeah, I think you probably have, like, 15 seconds.

03:12:54.000 If they cut off the blood right here, it's not that long.

03:12:59.000 I don't know the exact amount of time, but you don't have that long for a blood choke.

03:13:02.000 Jesus Christ.

03:13:04.000 You have way more time if they cut off your air than you do if they hit the arteries.

03:13:12.000 Because the blood choke, your brain is literally not getting oxygen.

03:13:20.000 20 seconds.

03:13:21.000 A well applied blood choke may lead to unconsciousness.

03:13:24.000 10 to 20 seconds.

03:13:25.000 Injury or death is plausible if the arteries remain constricted for more than 20 seconds.

03:13:30.000 Okay, yeah.

03:13:31.000 Compared to strangulation with the hands, properly applied blood chokes require little physical strength.

03:13:36.000 That's not true.

03:13:38.000 That's not true.

03:13:39.000 Yeah, I mean, you could choke, but you could blood choke somebody with their own...

03:13:41.000 But it depends on who you're choking. 0.97

03:13:43.000 That's a ridiculous thing to say. 0.82

03:13:44.000 Right, right, right. 0.98

03:13:45.000 You need some physical strength.

03:13:47.000 I mean, you don't need to be, like, super-duper strong.

03:13:51.000 That was misworded.

03:13:52.000 I think they meant you...

03:13:54.000 It doesn't take that much pressure.

03:13:57.000 But there's a lot, man.

03:13:58.000 There's a lot going on.

03:13:59.000 What's going on when you're choking somebody?

03:14:01.000 Yeah.

03:14:02.000 That's not true, really.

03:14:04.000 Like, you can do it like this, but it requires physical strength.

03:14:08.000 It definitely does.

03:14:09.000 You definitely have to have.

03:14:10.000 I mean, 100% it's technique, but there's physical strength in this.

03:14:14.000 Also, when you get your arm around someone's neck, and then you get this behind the neck like this, there's all this struggling to get this hand down in there.

03:14:22.000 There's a lot going on.

03:14:24.000 And then once you get it in there, the guy's trying to peel your arms off, and you just...

03:14:28.000 Squeeze.

03:14:29.000 Your jaw's getting pushed to the side. 0.99

03:14:32.000 You're fucking squeezing. 0.99

03:14:33.000 There's a lot of physical strength involved, especially if you're doing it to someone who's strong. 0.99

03:14:37.000 The idea of saying there's not a lot of physical strength, what if someone's strong?

03:14:41.000 Of course there is.

03:14:42.000 No, but I think you're interpreting it as like someone fighting back.

03:14:46.000 Right.

03:14:47.000 They're just talking about it doesn't take that much strength for me.

03:14:49.000 To cut it off.

03:14:49.000 Right.

03:14:50.000 Well, that's true then.

03:14:51.000 That's true.

03:14:51.000 I'm thinking about it from a jujitsu perspective because I'm high.

03:14:55.000 He's like, what?

03:14:56.000 There's plenty of counters.

03:14:57.000 What are you talking about?

03:14:57.000 I just don't like when people diminish the...

03:14:59.000 The arts?

03:15:00.000 What's necessary.

03:15:01.000 The deadly arts.

03:15:02.000 Well, you know, I don't want people to get a false sense of what works and doesn't work. 0.99

03:15:07.000 Well, there's a lot of that shit going out. 0.99

03:15:09.000 There's always going to be that. 1.00

03:15:10.000 Yeah.

03:15:11.000 There's always going to be that.

03:15:12.000 Jiu-jitsu's hard. 0.98

03:15:13.000 It's fucking hard to do. 1.00

03:15:14.000 Do you know of any survival myths that are bullshit? 1.00

03:15:17.000 Survival myths? 1.00

03:15:17.000 Yeah, like people go, you know... 1.00

03:15:21.000 It's like all these old wives tales about what to do if you're in the wilderness.

03:15:24.000 Like if you see a bear.

03:15:26.000 Yeah, and most of it's wrong. 0.89

03:15:28.000 Most of it'll get you killed. 0.98

03:15:29.000 Like what'll get you killed? 0.98

03:15:33.000 Like rationing water.

03:15:35.000 It's like you're better off rationing your sweat than water. 1.00

03:15:41.000 Because if you don't hydrate, real quick you're gonna get stupid. 1.00

03:15:45.000 Yeah, and you gotta drink your own piss. 0.99

03:15:47.000 Yeah, but it's way better for you to hydrate fully as long as you can than it is for you to be 10% hydrated for a long, drawn-out amount of time. 1.00

03:16:00.000 Because you're gonna do dumb shit. 1.00

03:16:01.000 You're gonna just be dumb from the beginning. 1.00

03:16:04.000 And if you can drink your piss, you have to. 1.00

03:16:07.000 You gotta drink your piss. 0.86

03:16:09.000 What is it? 0.96

03:16:10.000 It seems like a piss salesman here.

03:16:12.000 Playing dead if a bear attacks?

03:16:13.000 That only works sometimes.

03:16:14.000 No, it works sometimes.

03:16:16.000 See, here's the thing.

03:16:17.000 It depends on why the bear is attacking you.

03:16:19.000 Is the bear attacking you because of predation?

03:16:21.000 Is it trying to kill you?

03:16:22.000 Or is the bear attacking you because you think it's a threat?

03:16:25.000 If he thinks you're a threat and they minimize you and you play dead, they may stop attacking you. 0.99

03:16:30.000 But the question is, how the fuck do you know? 0.99

03:16:32.000 When do you know? 0.99

03:16:34.000 How much do you have to move before the bear decides to bite you again?

03:16:38.000 Yeah, I saw the Revenant.

03:16:40.000 Dude, that's based on a real story.

03:16:44.000 Yeah.

03:16:46.000 Roughly based on a real story.

03:16:48.000 It happened in the Drive Steve Rinella Nuts because it happened in the Great Plains.

03:16:53.000 But the way they made it, they made it like it was, I think it happened in the Great Plains in real life.

03:16:58.000 But it happened in a totally different environment, and they filmed it in the rainforest.

03:17:01.000 Myth, if a shark attacks you, punch it in the nose.

03:17:03.000 That's a myth?

03:17:05.000 It's really hard to land a solid punch in the nose of a moving shark.

03:17:08.000 Jesus Christ.

03:17:10.000 I just saw a video.

03:17:11.000 I think they filmed it for the new Shark Week, probably.

03:17:14.000 There's a guy in a plexiglass just under the water tank cage, they're calling it. 0.98

03:17:21.000 This fucking gigantic great white comes and starts circling him. 1.00

03:17:25.000 Oh, fuck that. 1.00

03:17:26.000 And it just fucking attacks him from the bottom and breaks right through the fucking cage. 1.00

03:17:30.000 Oh my god. 1.00

03:17:32.000 Dude, don't show me this.

03:17:34.000 Show me it.

03:17:35.000 Show me it. 1.00

03:17:35.000 Did the water immediately fill up with shit? 1.00

03:17:38.000 Because I would have shit my pants in that water. 1.00

03:17:40.000 I think they filmed it for something.

03:17:41.000 That's why we haven't seen all of the video yet. 1.00

03:17:44.000 Imagine trusting a motherfucker and losing your life because you trusted it. 0.99

03:17:47.000 Like when Owen Hart died. 1.00

03:17:50.000 Imagine all the motherfuckers that told him all those things were good and strapped in and boom. 0.99

03:17:54.000 And he jumps from the roof and it breaks. 1.00

03:17:57.000 Oh my god.

03:17:57.000 Oh, that makes me so mad.

03:17:59.000 This actually didn't just happen.

03:18:00.000 It happened in the summer.

03:18:02.000 So this dude is in a plexiglass box.

03:18:06.000 There's the box.

03:18:07.000 There's the box.

03:18:08.000 And he's there in the water.

03:18:09.000 And here's a shark.

03:18:10.000 See it?

03:18:10.000 Boom.

03:18:11.000 And it comes right through the fucking plexiglass. 1.00

03:18:13.000 Easily could have bit him. 1.00

03:18:14.000 Look at that.

03:18:15.000 Easily could have got him.

03:18:16.000 They had to know this.

03:18:17.000 They had to know this.

03:18:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:18:18.000 You a goddamn fool. 1.00

03:18:19.000 This is what I'm saying. 1.00

03:18:20.000 You a goddamn fool. 1.00

03:18:21.000 What if the producers are like, listen. 1.00

03:18:23.000 You want this show to get some fucking attention or not? 0.98

03:18:25.000 That's what we do. 0.99

03:18:26.000 We give them a plexiglass box.

03:18:28.000 A plexiglass box.

03:18:29.000 Is it going to stop the shark?

03:18:31.000 Experts say.

03:18:32.000 We have it right here in the paperwork.

03:18:35.000 It's going to stop the shark.

03:18:36.000 It's shark proof.

03:18:37.000 So the guy that they're interviewing, he says there's no cage that will stop a great white shark.

03:18:40.000 It's just something to help.

03:18:42.000 They'll break through anything.

03:18:43.000 He says we told him it was shark resistant.

03:18:45.000 How crazy is that?

03:18:46.000 There's no cage that'll stop a great white shark? 1.00

03:18:48.000 These motherfuckers are still going shark diving? 1.00

03:18:50.000 Are you out of your fucking mind? 1.00

03:18:52.000 That looks so flimsy, dude. 1.00

03:18:53.000 That looks like an In-N-Out box.

03:18:55.000 Well, yeah.

03:18:56.000 I mean, look, there's nothing that you can see through that's gonna stop a shark.

03:18:59.000 Look at this, dude.

03:18:59.000 Look at this.

03:19:00.000 Look at this thing go through this.

03:19:01.000 It barely misses that guy.

03:19:04.000 Like, barely misses biting him in half.

03:19:07.000 He's just got a wetsuit on, man.

03:19:09.000 It blows right by him.

03:19:10.000 And I'm not, I'm not, I'm, oh no. 1.00

03:19:12.000 The fucked up thing is he's trying to eat him, man. 1.00

03:19:14.000 That's the most fucked up thing. 1.00

03:19:15.000 Show that again. 1.00

03:19:17.000 The reason why it's going at him is because it wants to eat him.

03:19:20.000 Yeah, it had already brushed by and, like, touched it once to find out, like, oh, no, actually, I'm going to come back after this thing.

03:19:26.000 Bro, watch this.

03:19:27.000 Look at this.

03:19:27.000 This is coming to eat him.

03:19:30.000 Bro, fuck the ocean. 1.00

03:19:33.000 Fuck the ocean, dude. 1.00

03:19:34.000 And the homie's just filming it. 1.00

03:19:35.000 A lady just got killed in Maui.

03:19:38.000 From what?

03:19:38.000 From a great white, they believe.

03:19:40.000 Not a great white.

03:19:42.000 They're not sure what shark it was.

03:19:43.000 Great whites aren't in Maui. 0.99

03:19:45.000 It would either be like maybe a tiger shark or something.

03:19:48.000 But what was she doing?

03:19:48.000 They were snorkeling.

03:19:52.000 And the people on the beach were watching this shark and this thrashing around and they yelled at the husband to come in.

03:20:00.000 The body was not recovered.

03:20:02.000 Jesus Christ.

03:20:03.000 I've always had an intense fear of the ocean.

03:20:07.000 And the only time I've ever been in the ocean is I got talked to by a girl when I was in high school.

03:20:14.000 And I immediately got stung on both feet by a jellyfish.

03:20:18.000 Never went back again.

03:20:20.000 When I go to the beach, I chill on the sand.

03:20:22.000 Meanwhile, there's a girl who, she was 13 years old.

03:20:23.000 She got her arm bitten off by a shark surf and she got right back on the board.

03:20:27.000 Right after?

03:20:28.000 Oh yeah, she's got one arm now. 0.94

03:20:30.000 Oh, I'm a retardant.

03:20:32.000 No, no, not that day.

03:20:34.000 Oh my God, she got back.

03:20:36.000 Oh my God.

03:20:38.000 Can you imagine?

03:20:39.000 We're too high.

03:20:40.000 Yeah, we're too high.

03:20:40.000 I probably did a bad job explaining it.

03:20:42.000 That's such a dumb question. 0.99

03:20:43.000 I fucked that up. 0.99

03:20:44.000 Because in my head, I should have said, and once she healed up. 0.75

03:20:48.000 Oh, right.

03:20:48.000 You said she got right back on the boat.

03:20:50.000 That's a bad bitch. 1.00

03:20:51.000 So she got her arm bitten off by the... 1.00

03:20:53.000 Is it a video?

03:20:54.000 No, I don't think so.

03:20:55.000 Okay, so she's a wicked surfer, and she's doing it all with one arm. 0.99

03:21:00.000 She lost her fucking arm to a shark, man, and she's right back at it. 0.99

03:21:03.000 Here's her video of it happening. 1.00

03:21:06.000 The video of the shark biting her?

03:21:08.000 I don't want to see that.

03:21:08.000 Don't show me that.

03:21:11.000 That is brave as fuck. 1.00

03:21:15.000 Not only do you know it can happen to you, it did happen to you. 1.00

03:21:19.000 There's the shark. 1.00

03:21:20.000 Fuck that! 1.00

03:21:21.000 Dude, fuck that! 1.00

03:21:24.000 Fuck that! 1.00

03:21:25.000 I know all you people, all you Shane Dorians out there. 1.00

03:21:28.000 You love it.

03:21:28.000 All you Kelly Slaters.

03:21:30.000 World Championship surfers?

03:21:32.000 Surfer who's a good friend of mine.

03:21:34.000 He's the best.

03:21:36.000 He's a big wave surfer.

03:21:37.000 He's the craziest of surfers.

03:21:38.000 But you know what though? 1.00

03:21:40.000 Laird Hamilton, fuck you. 1.00

03:21:42.000 But people look at what you do and say the same thing. 1.00

03:21:44.000 No, no, no.

03:21:45.000 There's no sharks in my world.

03:21:46.000 Look at this!

03:21:47.000 You don't want to do that.

03:21:49.000 What?

03:21:49.000 No one wants to do that.

03:21:50.000 Oh my god, that's Shane.

03:21:51.000 Look at him.

03:21:52.000 Look at that wave he's riding.

03:21:54.000 What kind of psychoticness is this?

03:21:57.000 Look, I know that the danger isn't the same.

03:21:59.000 Look at that.

03:22:00.000 Look at that. 1.00

03:22:01.000 Look at the size of that fucking wave he's on, dude. 1.00

03:22:03.000 Imagine if that thing comes crashing down on you. 0.99

03:22:05.000 Look at the height of that thing.

03:22:07.000 And he's riding this with his balance on this ever-changing landscape of water. 0.97

03:22:13.000 He's floating with a fucking billion pounds of water overhead, ready to collapse on him at any moment and hopefully not knock him unconscious. 0.91

03:22:24.000 Because when that water hits you like that, a lot of people just go out, man. 0.98

03:22:28.000 Yeah, these people, they just build different.

03:22:30.000 Dude.

03:22:30.000 But look, like I was saying, the danger isn't the same, but the fear is the same.

03:22:35.000 People look at what you're doing and they go, oh, you're going to go up and speak in front of 50,000 people?

03:22:44.000 Like, that's insane to the average person.

03:22:48.000 They would never. 1.00

03:22:48.000 To them, they look at you just like, you're just as crazy as this motherfucker. 1.00

03:22:52.000 Well, I'm letting them know. 1.00

03:22:53.000 It's not the same.

03:22:53.000 You're incorrect.

03:22:55.000 It's way harder. 0.99

03:22:56.000 Fucking anybody can do this with practice. 0.99

03:22:58.000 But you know what? 0.99

03:22:59.000 To them...

03:23:01.000 They look at that the same way we look at stand-up.

03:23:04.000 Where it's like, you go after stage time and they would never.

03:23:08.000 And they look at that like, oh, there's a wave over there?

03:23:10.000 Right.

03:23:11.000 Where?

03:23:12.000 Bro, they get jet skied out.

03:23:14.000 You ever see that?

03:23:14.000 They get dragged out to the biggest waves, these crazy waves.

03:23:19.000 You're so far, you can't even get back on your own without that wave.

03:23:24.000 That's crazy, man.

03:23:25.000 Yeah, the surfers, people that do extreme sports, they lost me.

03:23:29.000 They lost me.

03:23:31.000 See if you can get a video of them getting pulled by jet skis out to these...

03:23:34.000 They do it, I think it's out near...

03:23:37.000 I believe there's a big one near Mexico that they love, that they go out to. 0.99

03:23:42.000 But isn't everything shifting because of climate change and shit? 0.99

03:23:45.000 Aren't the waves... 1.00

03:23:46.000 I just would imagine so.

03:23:48.000 I don't know, though.

03:23:49.000 I haven't heard anything.

03:23:50.000 I don't study waves.

03:23:51.000 All the stuff is moving.

03:23:52.000 Look at this.

03:23:53.000 They're jet skied out here.

03:23:56.000 Look at how far they are from land.

03:23:57.000 Let's see if he's also saved them.

03:23:59.000 Oh, that's good.

03:24:00.000 They go get them when they crash.

03:24:02.000 That's a good point. 1.00

03:24:03.000 Because if you get hit by one of these fucking waves... 1.00

03:24:05.000 Jesus! 1.00

03:24:08.000 Well, imagine being the dude that forgot to gas it up.

03:24:10.000 Have you ever seen the highest wave anyone has ever surfed successfully?

03:24:14.000 No. 0.99

03:24:15.000 You want to shit your pants? 0.99

03:24:16.000 It's like when you know those dudes are like walking on the top of skyscrapers like balancing with GoPros and you're like Jesus fucking Christ your hands get sweaty. 0.99

03:24:23.000 That's how I feel about this one. 0.93

03:24:25.000 Do biggest wave ever surfed.

03:24:29.000 How tall is it?

03:24:30.000 That's a good question.

03:24:31.000 Look at this.

03:24:33.000 Watch this.

03:24:34.000 Largest wave surfed.

03:24:36.000 Watch this dude.

03:24:38.000 Look at the size of that thing.

03:24:41.000 Look at the size of that wave, dude.

03:24:43.000 That's insanity.

03:24:44.000 What is that, 50-something feet? 1.00

03:24:46.000 Who the fuck knows, man? 0.99

03:24:48.000 The term unlimited means that the surfer is towed to the wave, enabling them to catch waves that would be too strong to be caught. 0.99

03:24:53.000 Otherwise.

03:24:54.000 Otherwise.

03:24:55.000 Oh, that's why they do it.

03:24:56.000 Because they would never be able to keep up with it.

03:24:58.000 78 feet.

03:24:58.000 That makes sense.

03:24:59.000 78 feet.

03:25:01.000 78 feet.

03:25:02.000 That's crazy.

03:25:03.000 Dude.

03:25:04.000 But one of these days, a surfer's going to get caught out when it's like a tidal wave.

03:25:07.000 78. I mean, they're going to get lucky and unlucky.

03:25:10.000 That's what they're looking for.

03:25:11.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

03:25:12.000 They want to die on that motherfucker. 1.00

03:25:13.000 The perfect storm. 1.00

03:25:13.000 Have you ever seen that movie? 1.00

03:25:14.000 Yeah.

03:25:15.000 Because they're going to catch like a 150-foot wave because an earthquake just happened to hit while they was out there.

03:25:21.000 Oh, my God.

03:25:22.000 And they might not survive, but they're going to be like, but I'm going out.

03:25:25.000 Going out.

03:25:26.000 A legend.

03:25:27.000 Yeah, that's true.

03:25:27.000 You would.

03:25:28.000 A lot of guys have in that world.

03:25:31.000 I mean, that's their risk versus reward.

03:25:33.000 You know, they live for it.

03:25:35.000 And there's way less money in it.

03:25:37.000 The people that make a good living from it, it's such a small percentage of the surfers in the world.

03:25:44.000 Yeah, I can only imagine.

03:25:45.000 And surfing's hard to get into, man, because I didn't realize...

03:25:50.000 They're very territorial.

03:25:51.000 If you're new somewhere and you're like, I'm just out here trying to figure it out, they'll hurt you.

03:25:56.000 This is the plot to Point Break you're explaining right now.

03:26:01.000 Man, this is a movie I haven't heard of in a long time.

03:26:05.000 Isn't that Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves?

03:26:08.000 R.I.P. Patrick Swayze, man.

03:26:10.000 Yeah, this movie was great.

03:26:11.000 Roadhouse is the greatest movie to watch High ever.

03:26:14.000 Roadhouse?

03:26:14.000 I've never heard of that movie.

03:26:16.000 Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze?

03:26:18.000 You've never heard of that movie?

03:26:19.000 It's amazing.

03:26:21.000 It's amazing.

03:26:23.000 It's so over the top that if you're high, you just need to be a little high and it teeters into the absolutely preposterous.

03:26:31.000 Is it 90s or 80s?

03:26:34.000 It's amazing.

03:26:35.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

03:26:36.000 It's amazing.

03:26:36.000 That was when Patrick Swayze was that dude.

03:26:38.000 Remember Ghost?

03:26:39.000 Oh, yeah.

03:26:40.000 He was in Ghost with Whoopi.

03:26:41.000 I loved Whoopi Goldberg when I was little.

03:26:42.000 You gotta watch this.

03:26:44.000 Give me some volume.

03:26:44.000 That'd be like a nice podcast for you guys to do, Brian, if you guys have never seen it.

03:26:48.000 Watching it now.

03:26:48.000 Just watching Patrick Swayze movies?

03:26:50.000 Well, that or the...

03:26:51.000 This is the evil guy that owns the town.

03:26:54.000 Opinions vary.

03:26:57.000 Anything can happen.

03:27:00.000 Look at this.

03:27:09.000 Don't be rude.

03:27:11.000 Ask him to walk, but be nice.

03:27:21.000 Oh, this is a dude from Big Lebowski!

03:27:27.000 Of course! 1.00

03:27:31.000 Holy shit! 1.00

03:27:37.000 He's all karate down out there! 0.99

03:27:41.000 Well, Patrick Swayze was like a dancer, so he wasn't necessarily like a martial arts expert, but he really knows how to move his body well.

03:27:53.000 He got famous from that.

03:27:55.000 Yeah.

03:27:57.000 The dancing was what, I mean, like for dirty dancing. 1.00

03:28:00.000 But what is this movie about?

03:28:01.000 About a badass, bro! 0.99

03:28:03.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 0.99

03:28:05.000 Okay. 1.00

03:28:05.000 And that's the bad guy. 1.00

03:28:06.000 He's the bad guy.

03:28:08.000 Look, here's the other bad guy, the other karate bad guy. 1.00

03:28:10.000 This is a karate fight to end this shit, bro. 1.00

03:28:13.000 Alright. 0.99

03:28:13.000 One of the greatest karate fights ever. 0.99

03:28:15.000 There's fucking guns, murder... 1.00

03:28:18.000 Alright, you've convinced me. 1.00

03:28:20.000 Roadhouse!

03:28:22.000 They're redoing it with Jake Lillenhall.

03:28:25.000 No, Jake can do it.

03:28:27.000 He'll pull it off.

03:28:28.000 I bet it's going to be great.

03:28:29.000 Joel Silver's producing it.

03:28:30.000 Roadhouse.

03:28:30.000 Let me see.

03:28:31.000 Do they have that in there?

03:28:32.000 Conor McGregor's in it.

03:28:33.000 I bet it's going to be great.

03:28:36.000 Maybe that's why he left the Usada pool.

03:28:38.000 No, he hurt his leg, man.

03:28:41.000 Some people said that.

03:28:42.000 Probably helped.

03:28:43.000 It helped a little bit.

03:28:45.000 Oh yeah, it's on Netflix.

03:28:47.000 Yeah, the original is.

03:28:48.000 The new ones, they're just starting to work on it now.

03:28:51.000 Yeah, or they just finished production, I think.

03:28:53.000 They did some stuff at the UFC. And Jake Gyllenhaal is playing Patrick Swayze?

03:28:58.000 I think he's playing the Patrick Swayze character.

03:28:59.000 Wow.

03:29:00.000 Yeah, I believe so.

03:29:01.000 Yeah, he's playing the badass.

03:29:03.000 He can pull it off.

03:29:04.000 He did that Southpaw movie.

03:29:05.000 Did you ever see that? 0.99

03:29:07.000 Dude, he got fucking shredded. 0.99

03:29:10.000 I think I did see it. 0.99

03:29:11.000 Pull up Southpaw. 1.00

03:29:12.000 It's a good fucking movie, man. 1.00

03:29:14.000 It's a heavy movie. 0.99

03:29:15.000 It's not like a cheesy movie by any stretch of the imagination. 0.96

03:29:19.000 It's a very gritty movie, very realistic movie about this guy who's really fucked up, who's a killer boxer. 0.99

03:29:25.000 You know what shit you gotta see? 1.00

03:29:27.000 Barbarian. 1.00

03:29:27.000 Look at him. 1.00

03:29:28.000 Look at him.

03:29:30.000 Bro. 1.00

03:29:30.000 I mean, he got fucking jacked. 1.00

03:29:32.000 I think I did see this. 0.99

03:29:34.000 Dude, he looks like he's fighting in the UFC welterweight division.

03:29:38.000 Like, look at him. 0.98

03:29:38.000 He's fucking shredded there, dude. 0.98

03:29:41.000 Yeah, and this is some of the hardest acting to do. 0.99

03:29:43.000 Look at that!

03:29:44.000 Like, boxing as though it's real?

03:29:46.000 Right, make it look real.

03:29:47.000 Well, he pulled it off, man.

03:29:49.000 He's one of the few guys that's really pulled off looking like he knows how to box.

03:29:57.000 Daniel Day-Lewis did it in that movie, The Boxer.

03:29:59.000 And he actually trained as a boxer for a year before he did that movie.

03:30:04.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

03:30:05.000 Well, Daniel Day don't fuck around. 1.00

03:30:06.000 Dude, he's the best version of, like, a guy who... 0.99

03:30:10.000 But Jake Gyllenhaal nailed it.

03:30:12.000 He really looks like a modern-day elite athlete that can fight.

03:30:16.000 Like, you buy it... 0.79

03:30:17.000 There's never a moment where you're like, get the fuck out of here. 0.78

03:30:20.000 Like, why is he knocking everybody out? 0.90

03:30:21.000 It seems real.

03:30:23.000 Yeah, he's one of the best.

03:30:24.000 Oh, he's phenomenal in this movie.

03:30:26.000 But what was the other movie that I said?

03:30:29.000 That was it?

03:30:30.000 No.

03:30:30.000 I said Barbarian.

03:30:32.000 No, no.

03:30:33.000 There was another box.

03:30:34.000 Oh, Daniel Day-Lewis.

03:30:36.000 Pull up Daniel Day-Lewis from The Boxer.

03:30:38.000 Oh, The Boxer.

03:30:39.000 Yeah.

03:30:39.000 Okay, yeah.

03:30:40.000 So the reason why this one is almost like...

03:30:45.000 It's almost more realistic. 0.78

03:30:48.000 Like when you see him move around, this is almost, because the other one was like all knockout punches and shit, whereas most boxing matches, they're matches. 0.99

03:30:57.000 Like a lot of shit goes on before a knockout punch. 0.97

03:30:59.000 It's not like, unless you're Mike Tyson, you're not just smashing everybody right away. 0.98

03:31:04.000 So they're showing these clips, quick clips, but in that movie, see if you can show...

03:31:10.000 This is the fight.

03:31:11.000 When you see him fight, it looks like an actual fight.

03:31:16.000 Like they're moving around and hitting each other.

03:31:21.000 He looks good, man.

03:31:22.000 He looks good.

03:31:23.000 I'm buying that.

03:31:25.000 He just knocked that guy out pretty quick, too, though.

03:31:27.000 So maybe this destroys my argument.

03:31:29.000 But Daniel, the way he prepares for a movie is insane.

03:31:33.000 He looked good there, though.

03:31:34.000 But so did Jake Gyllenhaal.

03:31:36.000 The point is Jake Gyllenhaal almost looks too good.

03:31:38.000 He's so shredded.

03:31:40.000 He looks more like a wrestler, like an MMA fighter.

03:31:44.000 There's only a few boxers that are that jacked.

03:31:47.000 There's Anthony Joshua.

03:31:48.000 There's a few guys.

03:31:49.000 Most guys are like Terrence Crawford.

03:31:51.000 They're a little leaner.

03:31:53.000 They're not quite as muscular.

03:31:56.000 He got pretty muscular.

03:31:57.000 Why do you think that is?

03:31:59.000 Well, because you want to be the right size for the weight class, right?

03:32:02.000 So if you're in a weight class, say, like 170 pounds, you want to, like, maximize your frame.

03:32:11.000 You want to, like, fight in the weight class that your frame is suited towards.

03:32:15.000 Because if you're too big in the chest, you're slower because you have longer to reach.

03:32:19.000 There's also, like, some people are just naturally thicker, and they're built like Dwight Muhammad Kawi.

03:32:24.000 He was a heavyweight champion, and he was...

03:32:27.000 Well, he was a light heavyweight champion, and then he fought as a heavyweight, and he was like, I believe he was 5'7".

03:32:33.000 Oh, wow.

03:32:33.000 And Dwight Muhammad Kawi.

03:32:35.000 He was amazing, man.

03:32:37.000 And he fought some wars back in the day.

03:32:40.000 He fought Evander Holyfield.

03:32:41.000 I think it was cruiserweight, now that I'm thinking about it.

03:32:43.000 I think he beat Evander Holyfield for the cruiserweight title.

03:32:46.000 I think that's what it was.

03:32:47.000 I don't think it was light heavyweight.

03:32:49.000 But he was a tank, man.

03:32:51.000 And he would just cover up and move in.

03:32:54.000 You never heard of him?

03:32:55.000 No. 0.84

03:32:56.000 Dude, he was a beast. 0.78

03:32:57.000 But it's so unusual.

03:32:58.000 See, pull up Dwight Muhammad Kawi versus Evander Holyfield.

03:33:01.000 And this was on Holyfield.

03:33:03.000 It just got back from the Olympics.

03:33:04.000 How do you spell Kawi?

03:33:05.000 Q-A-W-I. And it was like when Evander, this was his first big test as a professional.

03:33:13.000 This was like a world championship fight.

03:33:16.000 And he lost?

03:33:16.000 Yeah.

03:33:17.000 No, Evander won.

03:33:18.000 Evander beat him.

03:33:19.000 That's how good Evander was. 1.00

03:33:20.000 Evander beat a lot of motherfuckers, man. 0.99

03:33:22.000 And Kawi was in his prime back then. 0.99

03:33:24.000 Look how short Kawi is, but he's just a tank.

03:33:27.000 Look at the build on that dude. 1.00

03:33:29.000 But look at his fucking defense. 1.00

03:33:30.000 It was superb. 1.00

03:33:32.000 And he was a murderous puncher. 0.96

03:33:35.000 And just mauled people and kept pressure on them.

03:33:37.000 Just a masterful defensive fighter.

03:33:40.000 And he was all over Evander.

03:33:42.000 I mean, they had a real war, man.

03:33:44.000 He tested Evander.

03:33:46.000 But Evander won a decision.

03:33:48.000 Great fight, though.

03:33:50.000 Great fight.

03:33:50.000 You know what?

03:33:51.000 Evander Holyfield could take an ass whooping, man. 1.00

03:33:53.000 Oh, fuck yeah, he could. 1.00

03:33:54.000 Remember the Riddick Bowe fights? 0.99

03:33:55.000 Yeah.

03:33:56.000 Riddick Bowe was huge. 0.98

03:33:58.000 Riddick Bowe was huge and really fucking good. 0.98

03:34:01.000 And that was the thing about... 0.97

03:34:02.000 I think that was what frustrated so many people that are fighting him is because... 0.99

03:34:06.000 He would just take your best and just keep fucking punching you. 0.99

03:34:10.000 Mike Tyson. 0.99

03:34:10.000 That fight. 0.99

03:34:11.000 Yeah.

03:34:12.000 Dude, I watched that fight with Kevin James.

03:34:14.000 We couldn't believe our eyes.

03:34:16.000 I rented a house in Encino and we were watching it live on pay-per-view.

03:34:22.000 It was the craziest fight ever.

03:34:23.000 Especially the second one.

03:34:24.000 Yeah, the second one was nuts.

03:34:26.000 Because you were like, there's no way.

03:34:28.000 Well, I guess it was only nuts because it ended the same way.

03:34:30.000 You bit him in the second one.

03:34:32.000 Yeah.

03:34:33.000 Yeah.

03:34:34.000 The first one, he just beat him down.

03:34:37.000 Evander beat him down.

03:34:38.000 The second one, Tyson bit him.

03:34:40.000 He bit him twice.

03:34:41.000 I think in my mind growing up, Mike Tyson was the first person that I thought of as truly invincible.

03:34:49.000 I truly believed when I was a kid that nobody could beat him.

03:34:54.000 You know?

03:34:57.000 Everybody did.

03:34:59.000 Everybody did cuz for a while it was true. 0.83

03:35:00.000 And you know you know what also blew my mind is I it was the first time to Because there were people that hated him there were people that just just because he won so much there were people that were like fuck that guy of course Oh, yeah, they were like all like a lot of the old men in our neighborhood. 1.00

03:35:15.000 They like I can't wait for somebody to teach you there's a lesson, you know There was only 20 right, but they just hated it was like cuz he represented He represented the new guard. 0.77

03:35:27.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

03:35:29.000 All the motherfuckers they rooted for, he just beat the shit out of Larry Holmes. 1.00

03:35:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:35:33.000 But there was always those guys like, Joe Lewis woulda mop the floor with him.

03:35:37.000 Right, right, right.

03:35:38.000 Let him run up with Marciano.

03:35:41.000 There was always those guys that were pulling out people from the past.

03:35:44.000 I think Mike Tyson beats them all.

03:35:46.000 I think Mike Tyson is primed.

03:35:48.000 The Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier.

03:35:50.000 The Mike Tyson that knocked out Michael Spinks.

03:35:53.000 That Mike Tyson beats them all.

03:35:54.000 I mean, he might not beat Ali.

03:35:56.000 I think he beats everybody else, though. 0.99

03:35:59.000 I just think, in his fucking prime, man, he was a force of nature. 0.99

03:36:03.000 It was knowledge, right? 0.99

03:36:06.000 You know we're talking about watching films?

03:36:08.000 His manager, Jim Jacobs, had an enormous library of old fights.

03:36:15.000 And they were on like, you know, one of those projector things.

03:36:18.000 And Mike Tyson would go down there and play old fights.

03:36:22.000 So he would play like Jack Johnson fights.

03:36:25.000 And he would play like Max Schmeling versus Joe Lewis.

03:36:29.000 Jack Dempsey.

03:36:31.000 He was a big Jack Dempsey fan.

03:36:33.000 Because Jim Jacobs had this extensive library of these great, great old fighters.

03:36:38.000 Stanley Ketchel.

03:36:39.000 All these amazing guys that nobody ever heard.

03:36:41.000 Harry Greb.

03:36:43.000 And he would watch all these.

03:36:44.000 Sugar Ray Robinson, Willy Pep, and he would watch all these and he would absorb their styles.

03:36:51.000 Did Willy Pep die in the ring or something?

03:36:53.000 I don't believe so.

03:36:54.000 That name stands out to me for some reason.

03:36:56.000 I don't believe so.

03:36:57.000 Benny Perret died in the ring.

03:36:59.000 Benny Perret was killed by Emile Griffith.

03:37:01.000 Emile Griffith beat him to death in the ring after Benny Perret teased him for being gay. 0.99

03:37:06.000 He kept talking shit about him being gay. 1.00

03:37:11.000 And he beat the shit out of him? 1.00

03:37:11.000 He beat him to death. 1.00

03:37:12.000 Oh, was he gay? 0.99

03:37:14.000 I believe so.

03:37:15.000 I believe so.

03:37:17.000 I think that was the rumor.

03:37:19.000 Wow.

03:37:20.000 He beat him to death.

03:37:21.000 But that wasn't illegal, right?

03:37:23.000 Nope.

03:37:23.000 I mean, he wasn't trying to.

03:37:24.000 He was trying to knock him out.

03:37:27.000 I forget what they call that fight.

03:37:28.000 See if you can fight that fight because that's a rough one to watch the end.

03:37:31.000 Emile Griffith versus Benny Perrette.

03:37:32.000 Was that the fight that changed boxing where they had to crack down on safety rules?

03:37:37.000 No.

03:37:38.000 The one that did that was Ray Boom Boom Mancini versus Duck Koo Kim. 0.75

03:37:44.000 That was the one where Dukku Kim died. 0.75

03:37:48.000 And I think that was when they started to go to 12 rounds.

03:37:52.000 I think they went to 12 rounds slightly after that.

03:37:54.000 Because they were doing 15 rounds before.

03:37:57.000 And I think Dukku Kim died in the 13th or 14th round.

03:38:01.000 I forget which round.

03:38:02.000 I think they had decided that 12 rounds would be the right one.

03:38:05.000 So this is Emile Griffith versus...

03:38:09.000 Benny Perrette.

03:38:10.000 And this is the one where, you know, he was taunting him. 0.99

03:38:13.000 And Emile Griffith just fucking beat the shit out of him. 0.99

03:38:16.000 So, I'm guessing the guy on the right was the gay guy. 0.99

03:38:18.000 The guy on the right is Emile Griffith, yes. 0.91

03:38:21.000 That's the gay guy. 0.99

03:38:23.000 I don't know if he's gay. 0.80

03:38:26.000 But that's what he was being teased about.

03:38:28.000 Yeah, and he was definitely being teased about that, but that was the rumor that he was. 0.99

03:38:31.000 But look, dude, he just beats the fucking show. 0.99

03:38:34.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

03:38:35.000 So he's stuck in the ropes, and Emile Griffith's just teeing off on him while he's out.

03:38:39.000 So he's trapped in the ropes, and he collapses, and then he's dead.

03:38:43.000 He's dead right now?

03:38:44.000 Yeah, he's dead, man.

03:38:45.000 Wow. 0.77

03:38:46.000 Yeah, he beat him to death.

03:38:50.000 Watch that again.

03:38:51.000 Watch that combination again, because it's so crazy.

03:38:54.000 Uppercut, and then he backs up, right hand, right hand.

03:38:57.000 This right here?

03:38:58.000 Right hand.

03:38:58.000 The ref should have stopped it right here.

03:38:59.000 Right hand, right hand.

03:39:00.000 This is crazy.

03:39:01.000 Right hand, right hand.

03:39:01.000 Yeah, he's trapped.

03:39:02.000 The only thing keeping him up is the punches.

03:39:04.000 The punches are so hard, they're keeping his body upright as he's leaning up against the ropes.

03:39:11.000 Because he dead right here.

03:39:12.000 Bang! 1.00

03:39:13.000 Well, he's out right here.

03:39:15.000 Right there you could have stopped it.

03:39:16.000 Right there for sure.

03:39:18.000 He's turning away and he's hitting it with bomb after bomb and he keeps going.

03:39:22.000 One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.

03:39:24.000 I mean, he's just swinging at him afterwards.

03:39:27.000 And the refs just sit there like this. 1.00

03:39:28.000 Yeah.

03:39:29.000 There's been some horrific moments like that.

03:39:32.000 Do you remember that?

03:39:32.000 Who was the one guy?

03:39:33.000 I can't remember his fucking name, but he... 0.98

03:39:35.000 Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison. 0.99

03:39:38.000 Wait a minute, that's from Rocky, right?

03:39:40.000 Yeah.

03:39:40.000 No, no, no.

03:39:41.000 You never saw that one?

03:39:42.000 No.

03:39:42.000 That might be the worst one ever.

03:39:43.000 I'm talking about the guy who, he didn't die in the ring, but he had all this promise.

03:39:50.000 Oh, Gerald McClellan.

03:39:52.000 Maybe that's what I'm talking about.

03:39:53.000 That's 100% who you're talking about.

03:39:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:39:54.000 He was the guy that was a rival for Roy Jones Jr. So as Roy Jones Jr. was a champ, and he was a champ, and he fought Nigel Benn.

03:40:02.000 And he almost put Nigel Benn out in the first round.

03:40:05.000 But they collided heads at one point in the fight, and Nigel Benn hit him with some real good punches, and he went down and took a knee, and then he went back to his corner, and he quit.

03:40:17.000 And they couldn't believe that he took a 10 count, and everyone was like, I can't believe he's taking a 10 count. 0.99

03:40:22.000 And he went back to his corner, and he was so fucked up. 0.99

03:40:25.000 That he just slumped over. 0.99

03:40:27.000 Yeah, this is him.

03:40:28.000 So he had Nigel Benn in all sorts of trouble.

03:40:31.000 Knocked him out of the ring, right? 0.99

03:40:32.000 Nigel Benn was one of the toughest motherfuckers to ever box. 0.99

03:40:35.000 He got back in the ring and survived. 0.98

03:40:38.000 So Nigel Benn knocked out of the ring and here's him after that. 0.99

03:40:42.000 So Gerald McClellan is just emptying the fucking gas tank here. 0.98

03:40:45.000 Just swinging with everything he had. 1.00

03:40:47.000 And Gerald McClellan was a fucking murderous puncher. 1.00

03:40:50.000 He knocked everybody out. 1.00

03:40:52.000 So he was assuming he was about to knock Nigel Benn out too.

03:40:55.000 But Nigel Benn wasn't going anywhere. 0.99

03:40:57.000 And so Gerald McClellan got fucking drained. 0.97

03:41:00.000 And then Nigel started catching him. 0.99

03:41:01.000 Look at that.

03:41:02.000 Left hook. 0.75

03:41:02.000 Nigel catches him. 0.75

03:41:03.000 And Gerald tags him again.

03:41:05.000 Right hand.

03:41:06.000 Uppercut.

03:41:06.000 But Nigel Benn just kept coming.

03:41:09.000 And look, he catches him with that right hand.

03:41:10.000 Look at that left hook. 1.00

03:41:11.000 Imagine being that hurt in the first round and Nigel Benn just comes storming out later in the fight.

03:41:18.000 Crazy the resilience.

03:41:19.000 Crazy the endurance.

03:41:20.000 So, Gerald McClellan emptied his gas tank.

03:41:23.000 And Nigel's catching him now.

03:41:24.000 Catches him with a big left hook.

03:41:25.000 And at one point in time, they collided heads.

03:41:29.000 And it was a bad one.

03:41:30.000 It was like a bang.

03:41:32.000 You think that's what did it?

03:41:33.000 No, no, no.

03:41:34.000 It was all these punches, for sure.

03:41:35.000 But it was like, I think it was a collision of heads as well that someone had identified that was really bad. 1.00

03:41:42.000 But he hit him with some fucking bombs. 0.99

03:41:45.000 Look, he dropped him again. 1.00

03:41:47.000 So Gerald eventually comes back and drops Nigel again in the eighth round.

03:41:51.000 And Nigel gets back up, and he's like, still not going anywhere.

03:41:55.000 Boom! 0.99

03:41:55.000 Hits him with the left hook. 0.99

03:41:56.000 This is after getting dropped again! 1.00

03:41:58.000 Imagine hitting a motherfucker with everything you got. 1.00

03:42:00.000 And look at this combination. 1.00

03:42:01.000 Boom! 0.99

03:42:02.000 Nigel over the top of that right hand. 0.99

03:42:03.000 So the point is, this was a fucking war. 0.99

03:42:06.000 And there's another brilliant one. 0.99

03:42:08.000 So we see where he takes a knee.

03:42:11.000 Boom! 0.99

03:42:12.000 Look at that right hand.

03:42:13.000 Boom! 0.99

03:42:13.000 Another right hand. 0.99

03:42:14.000 So that's where it was.

03:42:15.000 That's where he takes a knee.

03:42:17.000 Yeah, this is sad.

03:42:18.000 So he decided to stay down.

03:42:21.000 So he gets hit.

03:42:23.000 I guess he got up for the first one, right?

03:42:25.000 Is that what they're saying?

03:42:27.000 So he goes down a second time.

03:42:30.000 So this is the second time.

03:42:31.000 And then look, you see him like wincing in pain, like holding his head.

03:42:34.000 And that's when he decided to stay down.

03:42:36.000 And so everybody's like, I can't believe he quit on his knee like that.

03:42:41.000 But then he went back into his corner and he slumped.

03:42:44.000 And he really never recovered.

03:42:46.000 He went to the hospital and he's alive still, but he's like severely disabled.

03:42:50.000 And I believe he's blind.

03:42:52.000 What did it cause, like a brain bleed?

03:42:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:42:56.000 I mean, that's the risk that these guys are taking, man.

03:42:59.000 I mean, that's a crazy sport.

03:43:01.000 You're throwing haymakers at each other with like thick padding over the top of it.

03:43:05.000 And that's him today.

03:43:08.000 This greatly affected Roy Jones Jr. too because you got to think that Roy and him almost fought, right?

03:43:14.000 That was like a big super fight that people were setting up for the future.

03:43:18.000 Roy and him down the line did wind up fighting.

03:43:21.000 That could have been Roy or that could have been Gerald.

03:43:23.000 It could have been either one of them.

03:43:25.000 When two guys are that good and they're swinging the way those guys were at each other, My money would have still been on Roy, though. 1.00

03:43:33.000 Roy in his prime was fucking stupid. 1.00

03:43:36.000 He was ridiculous. 1.00

03:43:38.000 In his prime, no one could touch him. 0.99

03:43:40.000 He would win entire rounds without even being hit.

03:43:42.000 To me, you know what I compare Roy to?

03:43:45.000 It's Anderson Silva.

03:43:47.000 Similar in that way.

03:43:49.000 They were just so dominant for a while.

03:43:51.000 And he would win in such stylish fashion. 0.99

03:43:53.000 It wasn't just that he was winning, but he just made you look silly. 1.00

03:43:58.000 You know, he was doing movie shit. 1.00

03:44:00.000 He was doing movie shit. 1.00

03:44:01.000 Roy put his hand behind his back and then knocked the guy out with one punch. 1.00

03:44:05.000 Yeah.

03:44:05.000 Put his hand behind his back, ducked, and then popped him with the right hand and knocked him out.

03:44:09.000 But just like both, it's like eventually it catches up to you.

03:44:11.000 Where it's like, you know, it's like you hit an age where like you don't realize but you just a millisecond slower.

03:44:16.000 Yeah.

03:44:17.000 There's that.

03:44:17.000 There's also this other speculation.

03:44:19.000 That speculation is that he went up to heavyweight to fight John Ruiz.

03:44:23.000 And so he had to pack on weight.

03:44:25.000 And then he went back down to light heavyweight.

03:44:28.000 And I think the losing the weight to get back down diminished him severely.

03:44:33.000 And then he fought Antonio Tarver.

03:44:36.000 Antonio Tarver was a murderous puncher and a motherfucker of a boxer Antonio Tarver could box and he said in the ring to Roy because they had had one fight previously where it went to a decision and you know and Roy had some excuses I guess and so he says in the ring for the second fight you got any excuses tonight Roy?

03:44:56.000 The referee goes, any questions? 0.95

03:44:58.000 Any questions?

03:44:59.000 And he goes, got any excuses tonight, Roy?

03:45:01.000 And Roy didn't say anything.

03:45:02.000 And Tarver wound up knocking him out.

03:45:03.000 And then after that, he just kept getting knocked out, right?

03:45:05.000 He got knocked out bad after that.

03:45:08.000 What do you think that is, after somebody gets knocked out?

03:45:12.000 It's almost like it's easier to knock him out after that.

03:45:14.000 Well, he fought Glenn Johnson after that, who was a very talented contender.

03:45:21.000 I think Glenn Johnson was a little older at the time, and maybe people overlooked him.

03:45:26.000 He really had great success later in his career, but Glenn Johnson knocked out Roy in a scary knockout.

03:45:33.000 Pull that one up. 0.98

03:45:34.000 Glenn Johnson, Roy Jones Jr. That was a scary one, because this was after the Tarver one, but the Tarver one He was conscious, but he was fucked up. 0.90

03:45:45.000 I mean, Tarver cracked him, and he went down, but he was out, right? 0.92

03:45:48.000 But he was moving around.

03:45:50.000 This one's even scarier, because he bangs the back of his head when he goes down.

03:45:54.000 And this was the comeback fight, right?

03:45:56.000 And so Glenn Johnson was like a suitable comeback opponent.

03:46:00.000 But nobody told Glenn Johnson that.

03:46:02.000 Like, Glenn Johnson came to that fight to win.

03:46:04.000 And Glenn Johnson has this high guard.

03:46:06.000 He's like a really difficult style to deal with and super, super tough guy.

03:46:11.000 Just very, very skillful.

03:46:12.000 And, you know, this was Roy coming off of getting KO'd.

03:46:15.000 And whenever a guy comes off of getting KO'd, the odds of him getting KO'd again go up.

03:46:21.000 I don't know.

03:46:21.000 It depends on the person.

03:46:23.000 Some of them it doesn't go up at all.

03:46:24.000 Some of them it only goes up slightly.

03:46:26.000 But some of them it goes up a lot.

03:46:28.000 For whatever reason.

03:46:29.000 It might be the damage they took from the first knockout.

03:46:31.000 It could be a lot of factors.

03:46:33.000 Look at this.

03:46:34.000 Boom.

03:46:34.000 He hits him with that right hand.

03:46:35.000 Look how he goes out.

03:46:37.000 He goes out stiff.

03:46:39.000 He banged his head off the ground.

03:46:41.000 Like, watch that again. 0.99

03:46:42.000 Because it is a fucking brutal series of punches he hits him with. 0.99

03:46:46.000 Here it is. 0.99

03:46:47.000 So he gets him up against the ropes, sets him up for the right hand, and boom, he's out.

03:46:51.000 One hard right hand, this side of the head, and Roy's out.

03:46:55.000 That was a rough one.

03:46:56.000 But that's nothing like Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison.

03:46:59.000 Do you think it's like your brain going, we're not taking any chances?

03:47:02.000 Probably.

03:47:02.000 There's probably something to that.

03:47:04.000 Get Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison.

03:47:06.000 This one was one of the worst.

03:47:08.000 And this one was one after the movie.

03:47:11.000 So Ray Mercer, people thought about him as, like, this, like, gold medalist in the Olympics, murderous puncher.

03:47:18.000 Like, he was a guy who was on the up.

03:47:20.000 Like, he was coming up and...

03:47:22.000 Somehow or another, they set him up with Tommy Morrison, who was a very good boxer and had beaten some good guys, but he was just coming off of this movie.

03:47:30.000 So he was in the Rocky movies, and he's fighting a guy that's just been doing nothing but boxing.

03:47:36.000 Now, Tommy Morrison's a movie star now, and he's a young guy.

03:47:40.000 He's got to be distracted.

03:47:42.000 I mean, he's got to be not focused.

03:47:44.000 Right. 1.00

03:47:44.000 And he's fighting a guy that he probably would have lost to anyway, because Ray Mercer was a motherfucker. 1.00

03:47:49.000 And so Tommy is doing well in the fight for a while, but then Mercer eventually catches him because Tommy starts getting tired. 0.98

03:47:56.000 And that's one of the things about Tommy Morrison.

03:47:58.000 If you look at Tommy Morrison in the early stages of his fights, he was always better.

03:48:03.000 He would fade.

03:48:05.000 And eventually, Ray Mercer catches him.

03:48:07.000 He hits him with that right hand.

03:48:08.000 Now watch this.

03:48:09.000 Boom.

03:48:10.000 He's in trouble here, right?

03:48:11.000 Boom.

03:48:12.000 Boom.

03:48:13.000 Boom.

03:48:13.000 Now this is why it's the worst one ever.

03:48:16.000 Bro.

03:48:17.000 He's tangled up in the ropes and the referee is too small to pull Mercer off of him.

03:48:21.000 So he hits him with multiple punches while he's out cold.

03:48:24.000 Look at this.

03:48:24.000 This is over now.

03:48:25.000 The referee doesn't get in there.

03:48:27.000 Look how he gets in there.

03:48:29.000 The referee's just like, hey you, stop.

03:48:30.000 Hey you.

03:48:31.000 He's scared because he's a little old guy.

03:48:33.000 He shouldn't be referee in this fight.

03:48:35.000 These are two elite heavyweights.

03:48:37.000 These are enormous men.

03:48:39.000 And this poor referee is old, got a little potbelly. 0.99

03:48:42.000 He doesn't want to dive in there and get fucking murked. 0.99

03:48:45.000 Yeah, yeah, you're right. 0.98

03:48:46.000 And so because of that, Tommy Morrison takes haymakers.

03:48:50.000 So he's out cold and Ray Mercer's just full blast, teeing off.

03:48:55.000 And another left hook after that. 0.99

03:48:56.000 While the referee was holding onto his arms.

03:48:59.000 Bro! 1.00

03:49:01.000 Damn. 1.00

03:49:01.000 That might be the worst. 1.00

03:49:02.000 Did he survive?

03:49:03.000 He lived.

03:49:04.000 But he was never the same boxer again.

03:49:06.000 No, no way.

03:49:07.000 He beat some good guys after that.

03:49:09.000 He actually beat George Foreman after that.

03:49:11.000 Yeah, old George Foreman.

03:49:13.000 Old George Foreman.

03:49:13.000 He won a decision off of old George Foreman.

03:49:16.000 Look at that left hook. 1.00

03:49:17.000 Boom, boom, boom.

03:49:18.000 Right hand.

03:49:19.000 I mean, this is horrendous, dude.

03:49:21.000 We're looking at it from a different angle now.

03:49:23.000 Look at this.

03:49:24.000 I mean, come on, man.

03:49:25.000 Boom.

03:49:26.000 And then still...

03:49:27.000 He's fully out cold and he got hit four or five times clean.

03:49:31.000 This is like Benny Perrette all over again.

03:49:34.000 This easily could have been the end of his life.

03:49:37.000 Yeah, for sure.

03:49:38.000 Easily could have been and probably changed his brain.

03:49:40.000 Because right here, like, I mean, what is this ref weight doing?

03:49:44.000 I mean, but seriously, dude, like, this probably changed his brain forever.

03:49:48.000 Yeah!

03:49:49.000 I mean, what is it this ref is waiting to see?

03:49:53.000 I don't know, man.

03:49:54.000 That is a crazy beating. 1.00

03:49:56.000 Because when you see a motherfucker getting hit in the face and they're not trying to stop it, the fight's over. 0.99

03:50:00.000 You need a big referee with big men. 0.99

03:50:03.000 You need someone who can separate those guys.

03:50:05.000 You need Herb Dean.

03:50:06.000 He be diving in like he diving for first base.

03:50:09.000 Mark Goddard.

03:50:10.000 Mark Goddard's a big guy.

03:50:12.000 Big John McCarthy was always great at it.

03:50:14.000 He's a big guy.

03:50:16.000 You want a big guy for big guys. 1.00

03:50:18.000 I don't want no little motherfucker in there to protect me. 1.00

03:50:19.000 Not like that, because that's not protecting me. 0.99

03:50:23.000 He didn't want to just dive in there and separate them.

03:50:26.000 Who's pulling Ngannou off you?

03:50:28.000 Oh my god.

03:50:30.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

03:50:30.000 You need somebody that can at least move that motherfucker. 1.00

03:50:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:50:33.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

03:50:35.000 When he knocked out Aleister Overeem and then fucking hammer fisted him when he was unconscious. 0.99

03:50:42.000 And that was just in the nick of time. 0.99

03:50:44.000 Just in the nick of time.

03:50:45.000 But can you imagine a referee being late on that?

03:50:47.000 Oh my God.

03:50:48.000 Like letting him hit him two or three more times?

03:50:51.000 Oh my god.

03:50:52.000 While he's out cold.

03:50:53.000 And he's not going to stop.

03:50:54.000 He's not going to stop until the referee pulls him off.

03:50:56.000 That's his job.

03:50:57.000 His job is not to stop when the guy's unconscious.

03:50:59.000 His job is to stop when the referee says stop.

03:51:02.000 Yeah.

03:51:03.000 Because the people have stopped when they thought a guy was out, and then the guy was okay and winds up winning a fight, which is the craziest thing to say.

03:51:10.000 But I've seen it on these local circuits.

03:51:12.000 It does happen.

03:51:13.000 Guys walk away, and the guy gets up and winds up winning the fight somehow.

03:51:18.000 I'm pretty sure I've seen that. 0.99

03:51:19.000 I might be talking shit. 0.99

03:51:20.000 When a guy's concussed, though, they don't get up, right? 1.00

03:51:23.000 No.

03:51:24.000 No, those guys don't generally get out.

03:51:27.000 I mean, different kinds of concussions are different.

03:51:32.000 Different kinds of knockouts are different.

03:51:34.000 Some people get knocked out and they come back and they're like, what happened? 1.00

03:51:37.000 Oh, fuck, man. 1.00

03:51:38.000 And then they seem fine. 1.00

03:51:40.000 Well, I used to be all judgmental.

03:51:41.000 I'd be like, he ain't have to hit him again!

03:51:43.000 But it's like, I'm not a fighter. 0.98

03:51:45.000 I don't fucking know. 0.98

03:51:45.000 Dude, they don't have to. 0.98

03:51:47.000 And people do applaud people that don't hit someone while they're out.

03:51:51.000 Like, they showed really good judgment there.

03:51:54.000 That's great.

03:51:54.000 Like, Mark Hunt was the king of the walkaway KOs.

03:51:56.000 Mark Hunt would uppercut you and just walk away.

03:51:59.000 He knew.

03:51:59.000 He'd watch you crumble and, like, you're not getting up.

03:52:02.000 Yeah.

03:52:03.000 Yeah, but then there's the opposite.

03:52:04.000 Like, the Black Beast...

03:52:09.000 Derek Lewis?

03:52:09.000 Derek Lewis.

03:52:11.000 He liked to see people get hurt. 0.96

03:52:13.000 He hits you when you're out. 0.90

03:52:14.000 Yeah!

03:52:15.000 Well, that's his job.

03:52:16.000 One for good measure.

03:52:18.000 His job is the referee has to pull him off.

03:52:20.000 The referee has to stop.

03:52:22.000 The referee has to get him to stop. 1.00

03:52:24.000 He's like a Genghis Khan type of motherfucker. 1.00

03:52:26.000 He's a bad man. 1.00

03:52:27.000 Very bad man. 0.96

03:52:28.000 The hardest puncher probably ever. 0.50

03:52:31.000 He hits guys.

03:52:33.000 He hit Curtis Blade so hard.

03:52:34.000 It was just a short uppercut.

03:52:36.000 Boom! 0.99

03:52:37.000 And Curtis just went flat out.

03:52:39.000 Yeah.

03:52:39.000 He's one of those people that's truly never out of a fight.

03:52:44.000 Never.

03:52:44.000 Because remember when he hurt his back?

03:52:45.000 Yeah.

03:52:46.000 And when he came back, he wasn't the same.

03:52:49.000 Well, it sometimes locks up on him still.

03:52:51.000 Yeah, but he still...

03:52:53.000 Oh, he's always so dangerous, man.

03:52:54.000 Still.

03:52:55.000 When he fought Alexander Volkov, he was losing that fight.

03:52:57.000 Didn't he knock out Inganu?

03:52:59.000 No.

03:52:59.000 He beat Ngannou by a very boring decision.

03:53:02.000 Oh, okay.

03:53:02.000 It was one of the most boring fights of all time.

03:53:04.000 Neither guy engaged. 0.94

03:53:06.000 And there's like Derek apparently had a fucked up back and Francis was like dealing with just losing to Stipe.

03:53:11.000 And so he didn't engage much. 0.62

03:53:12.000 He's like uncharacteristically...

03:53:14.000 Right.

03:53:15.000 Like, apprehensive.

03:53:16.000 But that fight probably... 1.00

03:53:17.000 I think that fight turned Francis into a fucking monster. 1.00

03:53:20.000 Well, he came back from that like a beast. 0.99

03:53:22.000 And he knocked out Curtis Blades in one of his fights.

03:53:24.000 He knocked out Junior Dos Santos.

03:53:26.000 And the knockout of Stipe was just horrific.

03:53:29.000 Like, that knockout was wild. 0.57

03:53:31.000 Like, that knockout was just...

03:53:33.000 You know, it just showed...

03:53:34.000 First of all, it showed how good he had gotten.

03:53:37.000 Because it wasn't just that he knocked him out.

03:53:39.000 He did it patiently and with technique.

03:53:40.000 And he took him down a couple times, right?

03:53:42.000 Yeah.

03:53:42.000 No.

03:53:43.000 He didn't go to the ground with Stipe?

03:53:44.000 No, I don't believe so in the second fight.

03:53:46.000 Then what fight am I remembering then?

03:53:47.000 The first fight.

03:53:48.000 I'm pretty sure the second fight only took place on the feet. 0.88

03:53:54.000 I'm pretty sure.

03:53:55.000 The first fight, Stipe took him down a bunch of times.

03:53:58.000 No, I'm talking about Ngannou.

03:54:00.000 Took down Stipe?

03:54:01.000 I remember Ngannou taking a fight to the ground.

03:54:03.000 Oh, no, no.

03:54:04.000 That was Cyril gone.

03:54:05.000 Okay, right, right, right.

03:54:06.000 This is like the misinformation boxing and MMA podcast.

03:54:08.000 I'm too... 0.96

03:54:09.000 My memory's all fucked up right now. 0.86

03:54:11.000 That's the way! 0.90

03:54:12.000 But you're right, it's the Serogon fight.

03:54:14.000 Yeah, that was because Ngannou went into that fight with a torn ACL. Yeah, so his leg was fucked up. 0.96

03:54:20.000 He tore his ACL and his MCL. So he had two fucked up ligaments in his knee. 0.98

03:54:24.000 What? 0.98

03:54:24.000 So why fight? 0.98

03:54:25.000 Because he wanted to win, and he wanted that money. 0.99

03:54:27.000 And he thought he could beat him even with a fucked up knee, and he was right. 0.97

03:54:31.000 So then, after the fight, he went and got surgery. 0.97

03:54:33.000 So he hasn't been back since.

03:54:35.000 And what they're trying to set up...

03:54:38.000 Is Francis Ngannou versus Jon Jones.

03:54:41.000 Man.

03:54:44.000 And here's my thing.

03:54:45.000 Hey, Francis, I'm a huge fan, bro.

03:54:47.000 But please don't fight Jon Jones with nothing broken.

03:54:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:54:51.000 Well, they fixed his knee.

03:54:53.000 Oh, okay.

03:54:53.000 Yeah, he's got knee surgery.

03:54:55.000 He's rehabilitated it.

03:54:56.000 He's back, you know, I don't know what level of rehabilitation has been completed, but he's on track.

03:55:03.000 He's been surgically repaired.

03:55:05.000 Bro, I'm seeing that fight.

03:55:07.000 Yeah.

03:55:07.000 He's also using the UFC PI, I think.

03:55:09.000 He was using them a while.

03:55:11.000 He uses them for some things.

03:55:13.000 What's the PI? The Performance Institute.

03:55:15.000 Oh, okay.

03:55:15.000 There's a bunch of experts there.

03:55:17.000 They could give you good methods of healing injuries, and they're up on the latest science and latest studies.

03:55:24.000 They have a great facility, too.

03:55:25.000 The facility's fantastic, man.

03:55:27.000 It's just filled with heavy bags and a cage where you could film all your sparring sessions.

03:55:33.000 The hype for that fight.

03:55:34.000 Oh, my God.

03:55:36.000 But wait a minute.

03:55:37.000 It's going to be the biggest fight of all time.

03:55:40.000 You think John is going to...

03:55:43.000 You think that's going to be his first fight back?

03:55:46.000 Yeah, I do.

03:55:48.000 I think that's exactly what John wants to do.

03:55:50.000 I think it's a bad idea, but also I think he has his ego...

03:55:53.000 The way his ego is set up, he likes the idea of...

03:55:58.000 Of doing something that people think is crazy that can't be done?

03:56:02.000 I don't think it's a bad idea.

03:56:03.000 No?

03:56:04.000 No.

03:56:04.000 I don't think it's a bad idea at all.

03:56:05.000 Well, let me ask you this.

03:56:06.000 I think, first of all, both guys are going to be out of condition for a while.

03:56:10.000 Or out of competition, rather, for a while.

03:56:14.000 John's been out for a couple years now.

03:56:16.000 And Francis will be out for a year because of his surgery.

03:56:19.000 True.

03:56:20.000 So whenever it does take place, let's say they try to make it take place in the spring.

03:56:24.000 So if they do make it take place in the spring...

03:56:27.000 That is a long time off for both guys.

03:56:30.000 It's longer for Francis, for sure.

03:56:32.000 But it's still, they both have like a little bit of a layoff.

03:56:36.000 No, it's longer for John.

03:56:37.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

03:56:38.000 Longer for John, for sure.

03:56:39.000 That's what I meant.

03:56:40.000 I meant to say it the other way.

03:56:41.000 It favors Francis, for sure.

03:56:43.000 Because Francis is only like a year, whereas John is a couple years.

03:56:46.000 But a year is a long time to not fight.

03:56:48.000 I don't know if it's any better than...

03:56:51.000 Or worse, to do it once a year versus twice, or once every two years.

03:56:56.000 Both of them will give you a certain amount of ring rust.

03:56:58.000 But also, John's not only been out for two years, but now he's moving up a weight class.

03:57:02.000 He's never fought a heavyweight.

03:57:03.000 But he's trained with a lot of heavyweights, and the results were very favorable.

03:57:07.000 The stories that I had heard from Jackson Wink about John Jones and heavyweights made me think, why doesn't he just fight heavyweight?

03:57:14.000 Because at a certain point in time when he was dominating the light heavyweight division, there was some discussion about that.

03:57:21.000 After he knocked out Daniel Cormier, there was a lot of discussion about him.

03:57:26.000 Would he ever move up?

03:57:27.000 Here it says, UFC 285 odds.

03:57:30.000 Whoa.

03:57:30.000 John Jones is betting underdog against Francis Ngannou, but healthy favorite to wallop Curtis Blades.

03:57:35.000 Oh, so this is the story behind that.

03:57:38.000 So if Francis is not ready in time, if he's injured still, because, you know, knee rehabilitation, it's a tricky thing.

03:57:46.000 And, you know, you're not getting, like, up-to-date, like, updates of how he's doing every day.

03:57:51.000 So he might be training and might tweak it.

03:57:54.000 Mm.

03:57:55.000 Guys do that all the time.

03:57:56.000 Yeah.

03:57:56.000 And then it's another three months or another four months.

03:57:59.000 And you definitely can't fight that man with a torn nothing.

03:58:03.000 No!

03:58:04.000 Especially not John when it comes to wrestling, right?

03:58:07.000 Because he's going to utilize that advantage that he has.

03:58:10.000 John Jones took down Daniel Cormier.

03:58:13.000 You got to always remember that.

03:58:14.000 Oh, yeah, I remember.

03:58:15.000 But everybody's got to remember that because you think about like he was a junior college level champion, you know, he's an elite wrestler, but that's just because he went to junior college.

03:58:24.000 Like if Jon Jones was in another school, like a Division I school, he would have been a champion there too. 0.97

03:58:29.000 Jon Jones was a motherfucker of a wrestler. 0.93

03:58:31.000 And the way he takes guys down in the UFC and the way he would like manhandle guys, he's got immense physical strength. 1.00

03:58:38.000 It's fucking immense. 0.97

03:58:39.000 And he knows how to fight, man. 0.99

03:58:41.000 He knows how to win fights.

03:58:42.000 He knows how to do the right thing at the right time.

03:58:45.000 He's got an octagon IQ that's as high as anybody ever. 1.00

03:58:51.000 And he's also long as shit. 1.00

03:58:53.000 So he knows how to use that length. 1.00

03:58:55.000 And I think he also has that little extra something. 0.91

03:58:59.000 Yeah, he's crazy. 0.98

03:59:00.000 Where he doesn't care if you die. 1.00

03:59:03.000 The way he throws some of them elbows is almost like he doesn't care if that elbow crushes your fucking skull. 1.00

03:59:09.000 You know, there's a little more intent with him when you see him hit people. 1.00

03:59:14.000 He's a bad man. 0.69

03:59:14.000 There's no doubt about that. 0.69

03:59:15.000 He's a bad man.

03:59:16.000 One of the scariest John Jones finishes was when he choked unconscious Leo to Machida and just dropped him.

03:59:21.000 Yeah, standing up?

03:59:22.000 Yeah, he had him in a standing guillotine, put him to sleep, and just dropped him like a sack of potatoes.

03:59:28.000 Yeah.

03:59:28.000 That was dark.

03:59:30.000 Yeah, he's vicious.

03:59:30.000 That was dark.

03:59:32.000 And what kind of dog does he have?

03:59:33.000 He says a Malinois?

03:59:34.000 Malinois.

03:59:34.000 A Malinois.

03:59:35.000 A Malinois.

03:59:36.000 A Malinois.

03:59:37.000 Belgium Malinois.

03:59:38.000 There are Dangerous dogs.

03:59:40.000 Yeah, it's crazy to have that.

03:59:41.000 They're little raptors.

03:59:43.000 He's a different kind of person, man.

03:59:46.000 He does tactical training all day, dude.

03:59:48.000 You ever see those videos that he posts?

03:59:50.000 He's really good.

03:59:51.000 He's very skillful with guns.

03:59:53.000 I stopped following him. 0.96

03:59:55.000 I'm still a fan, but the day-to-day social media shit, very rarely do I follow the people that I really like because I don't want...

04:00:05.000 It's like, I'd rather just like what you do.

04:00:07.000 You know what I mean?

04:00:07.000 I get it.

04:00:08.000 I don't want to see your everyday shit. 1.00

04:00:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

04:00:11.000 I get it.

04:00:12.000 Some people overshare.

04:00:14.000 Yeah, or it's like there's a...

04:00:18.000 Because you're in a position now where you can meet almost whoever you want.

04:00:22.000 And it's like, how many times have you met somebody you've been a fan of for years and you've just been a disappointment?

04:00:26.000 You know what I mean?

04:00:27.000 Yeah, that does happen.

04:00:28.000 But it also doesn't happen.

04:00:29.000 Like, I met Jared Leto.

04:00:31.000 And he's really cool.

04:00:33.000 He's a really nice guy.

04:00:34.000 He was friends with Theo.

04:00:36.000 But you're definitely rolling the dice.

04:00:37.000 You're rolling the dice, but every now and then...

04:00:39.000 I don't even know, man.

04:00:41.000 I've met enough of them that I'm thinking maybe I'm prejudiced. 0.86

04:00:45.000 You look at famous people, in particular, actors, and you just almost want them to be douchebags.

04:00:51.000 So you look at it in a biased sense.

04:00:54.000 Chris Pratt is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.

04:00:57.000 He's so friendly.

04:00:59.000 Didn't we meet him in Vegas?

04:01:00.000 I think I met him in Vegas with you.

04:01:01.000 Yes.

04:01:01.000 Okay.

04:01:01.000 I believe you did.

04:01:02.000 I believe you did.

04:01:03.000 He's the sweetheart.

04:01:05.000 He's the nicest guy.

04:01:06.000 He's like a legitimate Christian and like a really kind, friendly person.

04:01:11.000 Yeah?

04:01:12.000 I went elk hunting with him.

04:01:13.000 Yeah.

04:01:14.000 I mean, you know what?

04:01:14.000 He's nice to everybody, man.

04:01:16.000 It's not fake.

04:01:16.000 He's like a really, really good guy.

04:01:18.000 What I've noticed is that the people that are secure in their careers are usually cool people.

04:01:28.000 Yeah, but it's like, how are you secure in that business?

04:01:33.000 It's always in flux.

04:01:34.000 You're always coming and going.

04:01:36.000 I think he's at peace with that.

04:01:37.000 He's at peace with that.

04:01:38.000 It's just like when you meet Jim Carrey or somebody like that, or Keanu Reeves, and you hear about how nice and how sweet they are.

04:01:48.000 I think they've just come to peace with, as much as that business can fuck you up, they've Because the reason Hollywood fucks you up is because they start making you care about things that...

04:02:01.000 Aren't real or don't really matter, and you lose sight of what really matters.

04:02:05.000 But the people that hold on to what matters, like it's oxygen, they're the ones that come out the other side pretty okay.

04:02:12.000 Yeah, you can do it.

04:02:14.000 It's like you can win the Tour de France.

04:02:16.000 People have won it.

04:02:17.000 Yeah.

04:02:18.000 But for most people, it's just a pressure cooker that fucks with your head to a point where it's really hard to maintain.

04:02:25.000 Especially when you're a star.

04:02:26.000 Right.

04:02:26.000 Especially when you're Will Smith.

04:02:28.000 And nobody checks you. 1.00

04:02:29.000 Nobody ever goes, hey, bitch, be quiet. 1.00

04:02:31.000 Will Smith. 1.00

04:02:31.000 Right, right. 1.00

04:02:32.000 Like, how long has it been since somebody's been like, shut your stupid ass up? 1.00

04:02:35.000 That guy, that moment was the first moment like that probably ever for him. 1.00

04:02:40.000 Where he lost control?

04:02:41.000 Well, not just that he lost control.

04:02:42.000 He did it publicly. 1.00

04:02:43.000 He showed his ass in front of the whole world and he was humiliated by it. 1.00

04:02:49.000 Everybody was mad at him. 1.00

04:02:50.000 There's a few people that supported him initially. 0.99

04:02:53.000 Like, you don't talk shit about a man's girlfriend. 1.00

04:02:55.000 But he didn't even talk shit. 1.00

04:02:57.000 It was a mild joke. 1.00

04:02:58.000 It was like a dad joke.

04:03:00.000 Now he's trying to make the comeback with the slave movie.

04:03:03.000 Well, I think they were already filming that.

04:03:06.000 I think it's already out.

04:03:08.000 Yeah, but I think they were already working on that.

04:03:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:03:11.000 But I think he's just hoping that people forget.

04:03:12.000 I might be wrong about that, but I was under the impression they were...

04:03:15.000 Was that true, Jimmy?

04:03:18.000 Or they made it in the last five months, which seems a little...

04:03:20.000 No, no, no.

04:03:21.000 Yeah, I think they were already working on that.

04:03:23.000 Is it out on Apple TV already?

04:03:24.000 Yeah.

04:03:25.000 But I... You know what, though?

04:03:26.000 I don't know because I'm so much...

04:03:29.000 Like, pretty much everyone in my life is a comedian.

04:03:32.000 So it's hard for me to know if...

04:03:35.000 The average person feels the way I feel, because it's hard for me to overlook it.

04:03:39.000 Yeah, you don't have to overlook it.

04:03:41.000 You know, just forgive them. 1.00

04:03:44.000 People do stupid shit, and they lose their fucking head, and they do things in a way that they think is justified, whether it's because they're famous, Or because it's deserved or the relationship they have with their significant other that leads them to believe that they have to defend that woman or she's going to be upset at them later and they would rather just go on stage and smack Chris Rock in front of everybody. 1.00

04:04:05.000 But you can tell that he had lost his mind because he was saying, keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth. 1.00

04:04:12.000 And he was saying it and the whole place was silent. 1.00

04:04:15.000 And he had to realize that the whole place was silent.

04:04:17.000 And he had to realize why those words were coming out of his mouth.

04:04:20.000 This was on television, in the Academy Awards, and he was scheduled to win an Oscar. 0.99

04:04:27.000 And he's like, am I still winning this fucking Oscar? 0.98

04:04:30.000 Like, what is going to happen now? 1.00

04:04:32.000 What the fuck did I do? 0.98

04:04:34.000 And then to have it go from that to not knowing how the world's perceiving it, to then you go on stage, and you cry, and you apologize, and they give you an Oscar, and everyone gives you a standing ovation. 0.99

04:04:45.000 So you think it's over?

04:04:49.000 Yeah.

04:04:49.000 So maybe there's no Wi-Fi at the Oscars?

04:04:52.000 You know? 1.00

04:04:54.000 Edit that shit out. 1.00

04:04:55.000 They knew what was going on. 0.99

04:04:56.000 What's that?

04:04:56.000 They knew what was going on.

04:04:57.000 There was people talking to them like in the commercial breaks.

04:04:59.000 Right, but I don't think he probably fully grasped.

04:05:03.000 After everyone gave him a standing ovation, I bet he still thought he was okay.

04:05:09.000 Yeah, man.

04:05:09.000 Because you got to understand the world they live in.

04:05:11.000 I think a lot of... 0.99

04:05:13.000 I mean, he was dancing at the fucking party, the after party. 0.99

04:05:16.000 Yeah, Puff Daddy came up on stage and was like, we're going to have to talk about this later. 0.99

04:05:19.000 Yeah, I mean, he shouldn't have done it. 0.99

04:05:23.000 It's a fucking tremendous mistake. 0.98

04:05:25.000 But the miscalculation is that you don't control Twitter, man. 0.99

04:05:29.000 But it's also...

04:05:30.000 Are you going to like...

04:05:33.000 You're going to dismiss all the great movies that guy's made?

04:05:37.000 I Am Legend?

04:05:38.000 No.

04:05:39.000 I, Robot?

04:05:40.000 All these... 1.00

04:05:41.000 I mean, he made some killer fucking movies. 1.00

04:05:43.000 Is he useless now? 1.00

04:05:44.000 No. 1.00

04:05:45.000 Let the guy realize he fucked up. 0.98

04:05:49.000 I mean, Chris Rock is the one who really has to forgive him if he forgives him. 0.99

04:05:53.000 If he forgives him, it's basically over.

04:05:55.000 And I think he will eventually.

04:05:58.000 Maybe.

04:05:58.000 Maybe Chris is like, that was like his sign that, you know, all that, to be smacked in the face and then they give that same guy a standing ovation.

04:06:08.000 Like, these are the people I'm working with? 1.00

04:06:10.000 Yeah, fuck these people. 1.00

04:06:11.000 Why am I working with these people? 1.00

04:06:12.000 I think that shit unlocks some shit. 1.00

04:06:14.000 Exactly. 1.00

04:06:14.000 Well, dude, he's been murdering. 1.00

04:06:16.000 Murdering.

04:06:17.000 Murdering. 0.99

04:06:18.000 Like old school bring the pain, Chris Rock.

04:06:20.000 Yeah, because I think he got freed.

04:06:22.000 Because like I said, Patrice called it the golden handcuffs. 0.98

04:06:26.000 It's like, The deeper you get in Hollywood, it's like the more they give you, the more they give you, the more they give you, but all that shit come with at any time we can yank it away. 1.00

04:06:34.000 And it's like as soon as you stop giving a fuck about all that, like take it motherfucker. 1.00

04:06:39.000 Like if you have that, I think it opens up something for you. 1.00

04:06:43.000 Also at the same time he starts going on tour with Dave Chappelle.

04:06:48.000 Yeah.

04:06:49.000 Which is amazing.

04:06:50.000 So he was doing his own tour, and then Dave and him combined, and then they're doing a series of shows.

04:06:55.000 They did London. 0.97

04:06:56.000 They're doing all over the fucking world. 0.99

04:06:58.000 And they're taking rigging on. 0.99

04:06:59.000 Yep.

04:06:59.000 Took rigging on.

04:07:00.000 I ran into them.

04:07:01.000 We all had, we went to Pasta Bar.

04:07:03.000 Phillip's place.

04:07:04.000 Here?

04:07:04.000 Yeah.

04:07:04.000 Oh, that must have been great.

04:07:05.000 Oh, it was amazing. 0.99

04:07:06.000 Chris and I, we text each other, and after the shows, I had a show with the Vulcan, and he had a show with the fucking giant. 0.99

04:07:13.000 Phillip's dope, man. 0.99

04:07:14.000 He's the best.

04:07:15.000 We went to his house for Thanksgiving.

04:07:16.000 Yeah, he's the best. 1.00

04:07:17.000 Yeah, these motherfuckers had the nerve to have a potluck. 1.00

04:07:21.000 Oh, no. 1.00

04:07:22.000 Right.

04:07:22.000 Like Philip Franklin Lee?

04:07:23.000 Right, right.

04:07:24.000 Philip Franklin Lee is like one of the best chefs in the world.

04:07:26.000 And his wife is one of the best pastry chefs in the world. 0.96

04:07:29.000 And all of us are bringing our little fucking, you know, our little dishes to there. 0.97

04:07:34.000 So he set us up at Pasta Bar late night. 0.99

04:07:37.000 They did a late night seating.

04:07:38.000 It was me and Chris and who else?

04:07:40.000 William Montgomery went, Tony Hinchcliffe. 1.00

04:07:42.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

04:07:43.000 Oh, yeah, dude. 1.00

04:07:44.000 It was amazing. 0.99

04:07:45.000 A couple of Chris's friends, we had a great fucking time. 0.99

04:07:48.000 They gave us wine pairings and food. 0.99

04:07:50.000 We ate till like 1.30 in the morning.

04:07:52.000 Yeah, that's the one thing that would make me break my...

04:07:55.000 Because I'm going to do what you said.

04:07:57.000 We're going to do a public...

04:07:59.000 Weight loss.

04:08:00.000 I'm gonna go hold the whole month of January.

04:08:02.000 Don't think of it as weight loss.

04:08:03.000 This is what you gotta think of.

04:08:04.000 Lifestyle change.

04:08:05.000 Yes.

04:08:06.000 Adjustment.

04:08:06.000 Yes.

04:08:07.000 Just think of it as a life change.

04:08:10.000 Yeah.

04:08:10.000 Like, and you can do it.

04:08:12.000 It's not that hard.

04:08:13.000 If you can do stand-up, you could do this.

04:08:15.000 Yeah.

04:08:15.000 All you have to do is, like I was telling you about that Sober October thing, like, you know, the committing to 500 calories or committing to writing for two hours.

04:08:22.000 Just commit.

04:08:24.000 Doing a certain amount of exercise every day, and you don't have to make it 500 calories.

04:08:29.000 That's a lot.

04:08:30.000 You should build up to that, but you could start off with 150. Start off with 150 calories.

04:08:36.000 That's a reasonable amount of calories for one workout.

04:08:38.000 Oh, burning that minute.

04:08:40.000 Yeah, burning.

04:08:40.000 Oh, I thought you meant only eating that minute.

04:08:41.000 No, no, no, no. 1.00

04:08:42.000 You'll be dead. 1.00

04:08:43.000 You'll be dead. 1.00

04:08:44.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

04:08:45.000 You get a chest trap.

04:08:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

04:08:47.000 Let's not think about...

04:08:48.000 Like losing weight.

04:08:50.000 What you really want to think about is being healthy and weight will just come off.

04:08:54.000 Especially if you just eat healthy.

04:08:56.000 You know what I realized, Joe, recently?

04:08:58.000 I realized that discipline is also a muscle.

04:09:05.000 And it's one of mine that I've allowed to atrophy.

04:09:10.000 It's not enough to just know what to do, but the will to do it.

04:09:14.000 To, like, will yourself past your...

04:09:17.000 Like, you say it every day. 1.00

04:09:18.000 Your inner bitch. 1.00

04:09:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

04:09:20.000 The ability...

04:09:21.000 Because you've seen a man whose wife is, like, mean to them. 1.00

04:09:26.000 And you just look at him like, oh, you poor motherfucker. 1.00

04:09:30.000 It's like... 1.00

04:09:30.000 And it's like... 1.00

04:09:31.000 That's what it's like. 1.00

04:09:31.000 Your inner bitch is, like, belittling you. 1.00

04:09:35.000 And to... 1.00

04:09:36.000 To stand up to that.

04:09:38.000 That's a muscle.

04:09:40.000 And that's what it is.

04:09:42.000 Just the discipline to make myself do something every day other than comedy.

04:09:47.000 Because that was my problem.

04:09:49.000 I let everything fall by the wayside to do comedy.

04:09:54.000 To just focus on comedy.

04:09:55.000 And it worked.

04:09:56.000 It made me good at comedy pretty quick.

04:09:59.000 But now that I'm in the midst of the success, you've got to be healthy to do this.

04:10:05.000 To actually be on the road every weekend and constantly writing and constantly auditioning.

04:10:10.000 It beats you up if you're not.

04:10:12.000 Yeah, and I let all of that go.

04:10:15.000 And it's like, now I've got to focus on that.

04:10:17.000 But the most important thing is you've done it before.

04:10:20.000 So you can get in shape again.

04:10:21.000 Oh yeah, I can definitely get in shape.

04:10:22.000 All you have to do is make a number and do that number every day.

04:10:26.000 So we'll get you a Polar chest strap.

04:10:28.000 That's what I use.

04:10:29.000 You can use any one you want, but the chest strap seems to be the one.

04:10:32.000 It's a heart monitor.

04:10:33.000 So it works with an application.

04:10:35.000 So you put it on.

04:10:36.000 It's a strap.

04:10:37.000 You wrap it around.

04:10:38.000 It's a little sensor.

04:10:40.000 It sits right here, and you have an app on your phone, and you start your workout.

04:10:43.000 And it'll tell you what your heart rate is at any given time, and it'll tell you when you get to whatever your calorie goal is.

04:10:51.000 So you just decide On, you know, whatever the number is.

04:10:57.000 I think 150 is a good number to start with. 0.99

04:10:59.000 And you just do it every fucking day. 0.99

04:11:01.000 Every single day. 1.00

04:11:02.000 Don't ever take a day off.

04:11:04.000 Unless you're sick.

04:11:06.000 If you're sick, don't work out.

04:11:07.000 But if you're not sick, don't take the day off.

04:11:10.000 You don't work out when you're sick?

04:11:11.000 No.

04:11:12.000 Oh.

04:11:12.000 No, when I'm sick, I give my body a chance to recover.

04:11:15.000 Because you know what I hear in my head when I... Whenever I was taking care of myself and I would be sick, I would hear that dude, fuck, I forget his fucking name, but you know who I'm talking about. 0.99

04:11:27.000 He had a heart thing, but at first he had the record. 0.99

04:11:32.000 C.T. Fletcher?

04:11:33.000 C.T. Fletcher.

04:11:34.000 That's my man. 1.00

04:11:35.000 He's just your fucking set. 1.00

04:11:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

04:11:38.000 Yeah!

04:11:38.000 I would always hear that.

04:11:39.000 My daughter was wearing his hoodie the other day.

04:11:42.000 Really?

04:11:42.000 And I said, do you know what that stands for?

04:11:44.000 She doesn't.

04:11:45.000 She goes, no.

04:11:45.000 I go, this is my 14-year-old, so it's okay.

04:11:48.000 I go, it's still your motherfucking set. 0.99

04:11:50.000 Right! 0.99

04:11:50.000 And she goes, no, it doesn't. 0.99

04:11:51.000 I go, that's what that means.

04:11:52.000 That's what it means.

04:11:53.000 That's what it means.

04:11:54.000 That's C.T. Fletcher.

04:11:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

04:11:55.000 It's still your motherfucking set. 0.99

04:11:57.000 That's that mentality. 1.00

04:11:58.000 It is.

04:11:59.000 He had a crazy mentality when it comes to work ethic and pushing himself. 1.00

04:12:04.000 He's got like that David Garkins, whatever the fuck gene they got. 1.00

04:12:07.000 It's just Drive. 0.99

04:12:08.000 Bro, imagine if you imagine if you could get David Garkins If you could mix the genes of David Goggins and Jon Jones' mom.

04:12:20.000 Because don't forget, her other son is in the NFL. Yeah, well, you know, it's the grandma.

04:12:27.000 The grandma is...

04:12:28.000 Oh, okay.

04:12:29.000 Jon Jones told me.

04:12:30.000 He's like, this is grandma.

04:12:31.000 It's where we get all our genes from.

04:12:33.000 What is grandma?

04:12:33.000 Grandma is like a super athlete.

04:12:36.000 No way!

04:12:37.000 You should see her.

04:12:38.000 She's such a specimen of womanhood. 0.99

04:12:40.000 She's still alive.

04:12:41.000 She's still alive.

04:12:42.000 And what's she do? 1.00

04:12:43.000 I don't know, man, but she'll fuck me up. 1.00

04:12:46.000 If that lady was mad at me, I'd be fucking terrified. 1.00

04:12:49.000 Yeah, I bet. 0.99

04:12:50.000 I bet.

04:12:50.000 For real.

04:12:51.000 And his brother's a star in the NFL, and his other brother's a star in the NFL. Yeah, it's insane.

04:12:56.000 And both of them could have fought.

04:12:57.000 Both of them could have fought.

04:12:58.000 And his brother, I think Arthur had done a lot of...

04:13:02.000 I think it's his brother Arthur.

04:13:03.000 Is that the bigger one?

04:13:06.000 Chandler's the bigger one.

04:13:07.000 Chandler's younger, Arthur's older though.

04:13:09.000 I think it's the older brother.

04:13:10.000 I think it's Arthur.

04:13:11.000 Arthur's done a bunch of MMA training.

04:13:14.000 There's like videos of him training and people were speculating that he was gonna have a fight.

04:13:20.000 Dude, that's a family.

04:13:22.000 Do you think?

04:13:22.000 Yeah.

04:13:24.000 But out of all of them, I mean, look what John Jones has done, man, for fighting, man.

04:13:30.000 Yeah.

04:13:31.000 It's incredible.

04:13:32.000 Yeah, because the thing is, as athletic...

04:13:35.000 That's his grandma.

04:13:36.000 Look at her.

04:13:37.000 Wow.

04:13:38.000 She's so strong, man.

04:13:39.000 But as athletic as the whole family is, it's like none of them are the greatest at what they're doing.

04:13:44.000 He's the greatest.

04:13:46.000 Yeah, well, it's hard.

04:13:47.000 I think GSP is the, and again, this is me being a slightly above filthy casual, but I think GSP is the only person where you could really make an argument.

04:14:00.000 For all-time great?

04:14:01.000 Yeah.

04:14:01.000 You can make an argument for Khabib, too.

04:14:04.000 Khabib, he retired undefeated.

04:14:06.000 Jon Jones is also undefeated, I should say. 0.99

04:14:09.000 Jon Jones has one loss on his career, and it's a bullshit loss, where he destroyed the dude, but he was hitting him with downward elbows, which is the dumbest fucking rule in the game. 0.99

04:14:18.000 The absolute dumbest rule in the game. 0.99

04:14:20.000 You can hit a guy with any kind of elbow except for a downward elbow. 0.99

04:14:23.000 That makes zero sense.

04:14:24.000 You can block that the same way you block any other kind of elbow.

04:14:28.000 Side elbows, downward elbow.

04:14:30.000 You can figure out a way to block it.

04:14:32.000 It has to be a weapon. 1.00

04:14:34.000 The reason why it was made illegal is so stupid. 1.00

04:14:37.000 It has to do with people being ignorant way back in the early days of MMA. They thought you'd break bricks with it on TV so you can't have that in the octagon. 0.99

04:14:45.000 It's too dangerous.

04:14:47.000 Really.

04:14:47.000 That's how Big John McCarthy talks about it.

04:14:50.000 It was his experience with these people.

04:14:52.000 Bro, these athletic commissions, they are so slow to change.

04:14:56.000 Some of them are.

04:14:56.000 Some of them are really good.

04:14:57.000 California's really good.

04:14:59.000 Vegas is really good. 0.99

04:15:01.000 I remember seeing something recently about the biggest bullshit decisions. 0.99

04:15:06.000 I don't think they've ever overturned. 0.99

04:15:13.000 I don't think they've ever overturned. 0.98

04:15:15.000 Even the most egregious, unfair bullshit, they've never overturned. 0.96

04:15:19.000 Yeah, I don't think they have either. 0.99

04:15:21.000 I don't know if that's a fact, but I don't know with any offhand that I could pull a lot of shit out of the top of my head. 0.93

04:15:27.000 It's like you got Jon Jones, you got Khabib, you got GSP. I still say BJ Penn in his prime at lightweight. 0.82

04:15:35.000 Motherfucker. 1.00

04:15:36.000 You for sure have Khabib. 1.00

04:15:40.000 Kamaru could have been right there.

04:15:42.000 Yeah.

04:15:42.000 If Kamaru didn't lose to Leon.

04:15:44.000 If Kamaru just moved away for that last minute of that last round and didn't get head kicked.

04:15:49.000 People would be talking about Kamaru in that same category.

04:15:53.000 They already were.

04:15:54.000 Dominated everybody, man.

04:15:56.000 And he might still come back.

04:15:57.000 He might still come back.

04:15:58.000 But he's had some real problems with his injuries.

04:16:03.000 Knee injuries that are real bad.

04:16:05.000 Hand injury that he had to get surgery on.

04:16:08.000 He's had some real problems.

04:16:10.000 I think when he won the title...

04:16:13.000 It was something wrong with his foot.

04:16:15.000 Well, I think so.

04:16:16.000 Well, he also had bad knees forever.

04:16:19.000 Like, real bad.

04:16:20.000 Like, since college.

04:16:21.000 Just like wrestling?

04:16:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:16:22.000 Real bad.

04:16:23.000 Like, fucked up cartilage. 0.90

04:16:24.000 Like, constant pain. 0.96

04:16:25.000 Where, like, he had to go downstairs backwards While he was training for a fight, his knees were in so much pain that he'd go downstairs backwards.

04:16:34.000 And then when he would walk on like sidewalks and there's grass next to it, he'd walk on the grass because it didn't hurt his knees.

04:16:40.000 That's the kind of pain.

04:16:41.000 That's the kind of mental strength he has to be able to fight.

04:16:43.000 He's just willfully destroying his knees. 0.99

04:16:46.000 And if you look at his body, his legs, like the size and the musculature of his legs is not Comparable to the musculature of his upper body and I've always wondered if that's related because if you look at his upper body He's fucking shredded and jacked,

04:17:02.000 but he has fairly small legs for a guy that big but like severe knee problems You know it makes I think about it all the time, but man fighters are the most Used up and thrown away people for what they give up for the chance to be great But if you can do it,

04:17:24.000 the glory for many of them.

04:17:25.000 Yeah, but even after the glory, we throw them away.

04:17:28.000 The moment they start getting knocked out, people start...

04:17:31.000 Their time is done.

04:17:33.000 The thing is, do they deserve more?

04:17:36.000 What do they deserve?

04:17:38.000 Well, some of them get to do commentary, which is great.

04:17:40.000 DC has transitioned into commentary, which is brilliant.

04:17:43.000 It's perfect.

04:17:44.000 The perfect amount of losses, the perfect time in his life.

04:17:47.000 He steps out.

04:17:48.000 That's a wrap.

04:17:48.000 And he's good at it.

04:17:49.000 He's very good at it.

04:17:50.000 And he has a unique skill set in wrestling.

04:17:54.000 He can describe wrestling better than anybody.

04:17:56.000 But a lot of fighters, though, when they're in their career, they yell, he's sounding like Herschel Walker.

04:18:00.000 Yeah.

04:18:00.000 Dominic Cruz is really good at it, too.

04:18:02.000 So is Michael Bisping.

04:18:03.000 So is Paul Felder.

04:18:04.000 There's a lot of guys that wind up doing other stuff and they become successful at it.

04:18:08.000 It's totally possible.

04:18:10.000 It's just real hard.

04:18:11.000 It's a real hard transition.

04:18:13.000 Yeah, because there's more people that's like...

04:18:16.000 Yeah, Mark Hunt where like they end up having to fight well past their primes just to keep food on the table.

04:18:22.000 Do you know Mark Hunt just won, beat an undefeated boxer by knockout?

04:18:25.000 What?

04:18:26.000 Yep, in Australia.

04:18:28.000 Huge, huge fight.

04:18:29.000 This guy was this up-and-coming undefeated prospect and it was this big deal that he was gonna fight Mark Hunt.

04:18:36.000 Mark Hunt was a huge underdog and knocked this dude out cold.

04:18:41.000 You want to watch it?

04:18:42.000 Let's watch it, yeah.

04:18:43.000 This podcast is a thousand hours long.

04:18:45.000 I know, right?

04:18:45.000 How long we been talking?

04:18:47.000 Hours.

04:18:47.000 It's 6.30.

04:18:48.000 Four and a half hours.

04:18:49.000 What?

04:18:50.000 Brian Simpson.

04:18:51.000 We haven't even got up to pee.

04:18:52.000 I know, dude.

04:18:53.000 I got up to pee so bad.

04:18:55.000 So we'll watch this and we'll wrap this up.

04:18:56.000 All right, yeah.

04:18:56.000 Let's wrap it up.

04:18:57.000 Let's give props to Mark Hunt.

04:18:59.000 A legend.

04:19:00.000 A legit legend.

04:19:01.000 I mean, Mark Hunt.

04:19:02.000 Was it in K-1?

04:19:04.000 No, it was in Australia.

04:19:05.000 It was a boxing match.

04:19:07.000 Mark Hunt boxing match.

04:19:08.000 I think the dude's initials were RSV or something like that.

04:19:12.000 I wasn't aware of who this dude was.

04:19:14.000 A month ago?

04:19:14.000 Yes.

04:19:15.000 He's an undefeated young boxer and it was supposed to be, you know, a fight where he was gonna show the world because Mark Hunt is this famous UFC fighter, K1 champion.

04:19:27.000 Mark Hunt went the K1 Grand Prix.

04:19:29.000 Way back in the day.

04:19:30.000 Marcon's been fighting forever.

04:19:31.000 He was nasty with it.

04:19:33.000 Dude.

04:19:33.000 A tank.

04:19:34.000 Also had the greatest chin of all time.

04:19:36.000 He got head kicked by Cro Cop and got right back up. 0.81

04:19:39.000 Weird.

04:19:40.000 When Cro Cop was wearing shoes.

04:19:42.000 Cro Cop was wearing wrestling shoes. 0.97

04:19:44.000 Oh, yeah.

04:19:44.000 And he head kicked him.

04:19:45.000 Yo, why do you think it is that People don't stay atop the heavyweight division that long.

04:19:51.000 It's the power those guys have.

04:19:53.000 You get hit by a guy that big.

04:19:56.000 So many people that were heavyweights where it was like, this person's the GOAT, and then the next person's like, no, it was this person.

04:20:01.000 If you're a guy like, here it is.

04:20:04.000 Boom, boom, boom.

04:20:06.000 So this is Mark Hunt teeing off, and this is this young, undefeated fighter.

04:20:09.000 Sonny Bill Williams was his name.

04:20:10.000 Sonny Bill Williams, SBW. And Mark Hunt just KO'd him.

04:20:15.000 How does Mark Hunt even still talk straight?

04:20:17.000 He talks great.

04:20:18.000 Yeah.

04:20:19.000 Dude, he's got no problem.

04:20:19.000 Whatever that gene is, you get more CTE if you have that gene.

04:20:24.000 That's like that Samoan shit. 1.00

04:20:25.000 APOE4. Yeah, exactly. 1.00

04:20:26.000 Oh, hold on.

04:20:27.000 Are you serious?

04:20:28.000 Yes.

04:20:28.000 There's a gene.

04:20:29.000 There's a gene that leads you to have a higher likelihood of CTE. Wow.

04:20:35.000 I believe it's called APOE4. Yeah.

04:20:39.000 Brian Simpson, I love you to death.

04:20:41.000 Let's go pee.

04:20:42.000 Let's go pee, dude.

04:20:43.000 This is a lot of fun.

04:20:44.000 Do some shows tonight.

04:20:44.000 Yeah, love you too, man.

04:20:45.000 Thank you.

04:20:46.000 Love you too.

04:20:46.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 27, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1915 - Brian Simpson

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