In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I catch up with my good friend and former co-worker, Eddie Murphy. Eddie talks about his time on Viceland's "Wong's World" and how he became one of the funniest people on the planet. We also talk about his new Netflix show "Vanderpump choo choo" and what it's like being on the set of the hit show "Veep" and why he doesn't want to go on a honeymoon. And of course, we talk about some of the craziest things Eddie has ever done on the show, including getting caught by his boss in the middle of a war zone and eating Formula 1 in Abu Dhabi. Joe also gives us some of his favorite movies and TV shows from the 80s and 90s, and talks about what he's been up to in the past 20 years and what he wants to do in the future. Enjoy the episode and tweet me and if you liked it! with any thoughts, opinions, or thoughts on anything else! Timestamps: 1:00 - Eddie's time on 'Wong s World' 4:30 - Eddie and Eddie's friendship 6:15 - Haimo's early days on 'Vegans' World 8:40 - Shane Smith's career 9:20 - What's next for him? 11:00- Eddie's new job 13:00 What's the craziness? 16:30 17:15 18:00 | Eddie's favorite movie and TV show? 19:15 | What's your favorite movie? 21: What's going on in the most dangerous place in the world? 22:40 | What do you want to do next? 26:00 // 27:30 | What would you like to go back to? 27:20 | What s your favorite episode? 29:30 // 32:00 / 32:40 32:50 33:40 / 33:00/35:00 What s the worst thing you veep? 35: What are you looking for? 36:30 / 35:30/36:00 & 37:00 +38:00 Is it possible? 39:00? 41:00 Do you have a favorite movie or TV show I m watching right now? 45:00 Good luck?
00:00:53.000I still talk to Shane, but, no, it was, I think the end of Wong's World was just, they were like, yo, we still want to do Wong's World, but can we make it domestic?
00:01:01.000And I wanted to do films, and I was just like, love you, I'm going to go make this film.
00:01:07.000So they wanted to do it in the United States because of travel costs?
00:01:36.000Yeah, it was the best, because Vice would just pick the most dangerous shit and be like, here's $30,000, go with a 5D camera, and fucking come back with some footage and try not to die.
00:01:50.000And then, once it became the TV channel, it got crazy.
00:01:54.000I mean, I was probably the biggest perpetrator, so in all fairness to Shane, somebody needed to be like, Eddie, you're burning money crazy.
00:02:02.000Because I was going to F1 tracks, and I literally, the last episode, I went on an F1 track in Abu Dhabi, and Shane was there, and he's like, what are you doing here?
00:02:58.000But the show episode's the best because there's so many people now, especially in L.A., that are like, for a honeymoon or for the holidays, I'm going to go to the Congo.
00:05:30.000They need to do, like, a sex worker special in Dubai, too, because the stories I hear from, like, the people who have gone there for some work, like, shitting in buckets, dog.
00:05:54.000That's what's so fascinating about people, that there's people that are living at the top of luxury at the same time people are living on dirt floors with no electricity in a shack that they built out of scraps just trying to figure out how to eat that day.
00:06:12.000And that there's more of those people than there are the people living in luxury.
00:06:16.000But if you look at any kind of billboards and advertisement, depictments of life, it's almost always The luxury one.
00:06:25.000It's always the person with the fucking fantastic view of the ocean behind them when they're eating their breakfast at some luxury five-star resort.
00:06:34.000Like, that's what people look towards.
00:06:38.000And then the guy that's actually living the luxurious life, not the actor on the billboard, he's like painting an escort to shit in a bucket and then fucking eat it with a caviar spoon.
00:07:41.000There's different jobs that suck, but anytime you're dealing with human shit, that's as far on the bad side of the spectrum as is possible.
00:07:51.000If you are interacting with other people's shit, like, ooh, that's not a good job.
00:07:55.000Yeah, and human shit is different than dog shit.
00:09:33.000And then when you get in there, just whoa!
00:09:35.000And whatever that rumble is, is probably some gases that have been stewing up inside of your bowels.
00:09:42.000No, I knew I really loved my wife because one day I had to pick up her shit and I was like, bro, picking up adult human shit is fucking crazy.
00:10:45.000And she was like, I shit on the floor.
00:10:50.000And it turned out like I can't tell the whole story because she's got to tell it one day like but like it turned out it wasn't food poisoning.
00:10:58.000She had a much more serious like health condition situation.
00:11:02.000But like I turned when she's like I shit on the floor and I saw like a little Hershey kiss.
00:19:20.000If you watch at all levels, especially what's really funny with the Fed thing now is that they want to fight inflation, but then they just threw billions of dollars back into the market.
00:19:32.000And I'm like, inflation is going to go crazy.
00:19:34.000I don't see a way where this levels out and becomes something that we can all say is a reasonable system.
00:22:17.000When you first start doing a thing, you kind of got to figure it out.
00:22:21.000But if it's the most important job in the world with international consequences, and nuclear war rides on it, and the economy rides on it, and pandemic response, and international relations at a porous border, and you just come into the job new?
00:22:51.000But like, yeah, I really think the re-electing of people, we need longer terms, but then also, I wouldn't sign up for that until we really get a hold of the, like, the S-PAC shit, and the, like, gerrymandering,
00:23:07.000because the whole system's just really broken right now.
00:23:40.000I was the first one to print Obama t-shirts and support him.
00:23:44.000Once he was in office, I feel like he didn't come through on a lot of the things.
00:23:49.000He didn't come through on a lot of things, but I think Putin spoke to that.
00:23:52.000Putin spoke to these guys who all have these ideas until they get into office, and then the real people who run the country have a conversation with them.
00:23:58.000He goes, they come in suits like mine, but with black ties, and they tell them.
00:24:05.000And I think that's happened to every single president, except Trump actually fought back against the intelligence agencies, went to war with them, which is very crazy.
00:24:26.000He's the the most educated and eloquent and even keeled and he was a Statesman and the way he spoke inspired confidence that Truly the wisest amongst us is the king.
00:24:39.000That's what we want And then that's what you realize is like what you're voting for as president is not actually a get-it-done person It's a figurehead just like the Queen of England, you know, it would be nice if they're both Yeah, but the thing is like I don't think they get to be I don't think they'll ever tell the truth,
00:24:57.000but I bet Obama as a lawyer in Chicago When he gets into the office There's probably like a real part of him that didn't know how it was all behind the scenes I don't think they let anybody know until you get in there.
00:25:11.000I don't think it's why would they yeah, why would they I think they explained to you I think they sit you down and And show you some fucking horrific facts about the world and show you what we're trying to stop and what's currently going on all over the place.
00:25:26.000And here's what happens if this goes down.
00:25:28.000Here's what happens if that goes down.
00:25:59.000The major difference to me was that socially, just the way you interact socially with your lifestyle in Asia, it's significantly more conservative than the West, right?
00:26:13.000Like, there's so much more groupthink, there's so much more peer pressure.
00:26:18.000Everybody rolls in groups and it's just like, you're not really an individual even within the groups.
00:26:24.000And then people want you to subscribe to this.
00:27:35.000And then when there isn't like racial diversity either there, it's all Asian people.
00:27:41.000I was just like, this is a little too cloying for me.
00:27:45.000But, when I look at the government, like China as a government out there, and I was living in Taiwan, spent a lot of time in China, my brother still lives in China, but the Chinese government to me is much more effective I think it's better than the American government.
00:28:02.000If it wants to get something done, China's going to have it done in 24 hours.
00:28:06.000The building may fall apart, but it'll be done.
00:28:21.000But their type of feudalism and like colonialism compared to American colonialism, I think I would prefer if I was the country being shitted on.
00:29:57.000There's this idea that it's okay to just send fucking troops all over the place and occupy these places, but it's not okay if they fuck with us.
00:30:05.000It's like kind of a funny way of looking at things.
00:30:08.000If you just looked at us as like an entity, you weren't American, you weren't even human, just like, what's going on over here?
00:30:16.000Oh, this one thing, like, sends these metal things all over the place and dominates these areas, but they all claim this one spot that's nowhere near the area that they're at.
00:30:55.000But in the end, you just work for China.
00:30:57.000Also, they have a grip on people right now that I think we should all be very careful that we don't allow to happen here.
00:31:04.000And the grip on people is a social credit score system.
00:31:07.000If they develop a social credit score system in America and digital currency, you're going to have a real problem.
00:31:12.000Because the people that are in control of that system are going to be the ones that tell you what to do and they're going to dictate life on their own terms and what's beneficial to them and the ruling class, the people that are in control.
00:31:24.000And that's a scary, twisted thing that could really happen, especially with all these banks collapsing and all those fucking FTX fucking shenanigans with crypto.
00:32:57.000So we do have a version of that now, that we reserve for people that we incarcerate.
00:33:03.000I mean, it's eventually going to happen.
00:33:06.000But yeah, in a way, too, it's just you can look at people's social media and I guess you make your own judgment, but a government score would be fucking crazy.
00:33:19.000And China does have a system set up where...
00:33:22.000If someone's politically active, if they do something, if they're involved in some protests or something like that, they'll find themselves in a position where they can't travel.
00:34:52.000I just think life for people gets better in these really critical opportunistic moments when There's something that's, like, bad for business and good for people, and you have a leader who's willing to,
00:35:08.000like, bring the business to its knees and negotiate new terms.
00:35:12.000Like, do you remember in the pandemic when LeBron walked out of a basketball game?
00:35:21.000I think it was, like, they were playing the Bucs, and it was, like, LeBron walked out of the game, and they didn't want to play.
00:35:29.000And the players were gonna boycott the NBA. And instead of just being like, yo, we're gonna negotiate all the terms, we're gonna make it better for players, and specifically black athletes, Obama called him and then they conceded and compromised and like the compromise was like we're gonna let you write Black Lives Matter on the back of the jersey.
00:35:50.000We're gonna let you write hope or like justice or whatever you want and it really became an aesthetic solution instead of like an economic one where I really felt LeBron had a moment there and Obama had a moment there where it's like yo you have the NBA on its knees you have to get the best deal you can right now.
00:36:50.000Well, I think all those, like, Pat McAfee guys and all those sports radio talk guys, they harped on that enough, I think.
00:36:56.000He was one of the ones that talked about that, right?
00:36:59.000The people that were aware of the actual money that's involved, you know, it's so substantial that to deny it from these kids or to make it so they can't make any money at all, fuck you!
00:38:23.000And it just, it really, that shit used to piss me off, too, because it was the most propagandistic thing, but this is what's so funny about the public.
00:38:31.000Your leaders will say something propagandistic like, an education is priceless.
00:39:35.000Like, you don't have to go to college for that.
00:39:36.000You can study online the history of metallurgy and sword making and there's fucking hours and hours and hours and hours of papers and footage and all this different shit that talks about how people, you know, figured out how to make alloys and when,
00:39:54.000like, how the samurais made their swords.
00:39:56.000Like, you could learn a Shitload without going anywhere, which is pretty wild.
00:40:16.000If it was 20 years before that, impossible.
00:40:19.00020 years before that, you had to go to university.
00:40:21.000So inside of 40 years, 35 years, We've created a completely new world where virtually, if you look at the right places and you search hard enough in your studios, you can learn about almost anything.
00:40:37.000Yeah, I think it's really, for me, I didn't learn anything in school that I could not learn on my own, but the one function of school that really helped me personally and is different for everyone, there were teachers that believed in me And, like, just talk to me because I had so many mental,
00:40:55.000emotional issues from, like, my home shit.
00:41:25.000You know, school's an amazing resource.
00:41:27.000If you can go to school, going to school will be great for you in multiple ways.
00:41:33.000First of all, it'll be great for you because you're around a bunch of people that are also going to school.
00:41:37.000And they're all people your age, and they're all experiencing this weirdness of graduating from high school, and you're like, wow, this is nuts.
00:43:23.000They're trying to see whether or not they're gonna make marijuana legal, and I think it's already legal right now for medical reasons, and his wife qualifies for that, and he gives a speech about it.
00:43:34.000It's a very impassioned speech about how his wife was having these horrible seizures, and the only thing that stopped them, they tried multiple medications, the only thing that stopped it was cannabis.
00:43:45.000So they're putting cannabis oil drops under her tongue, and she's just stopped having seizures.
00:44:29.000Because one, wouldn't it be great if weed, since it doesn't cost that much money anyway, like if you go to drink, if you have an alcoholic beverage, you're paying 20 bucks, you're paying more than 20 bucks, you're having two, three, it's like 60 bucks.
00:44:43.00060 bucks worth of weed will put you on the fucking moon.
00:44:53.000So it's not hurting you to give that 39%.
00:44:57.000It's like if something costs, if it's a dollar and 39 cents of it goes to tax, If that tax goes straight to the education system, wouldn't that be better for everybody?
00:45:07.000If that tax goes straight to fixing the city streets, wouldn't that be better for everybody?
00:45:12.000Like, that kind of a sales tax I can get behind.
00:45:44.000We should just do, like, a voting ballot across America and be like, alright, write in the names of the fucking weed legends that should have, like, jobs in this fucking giant economy now.
00:47:28.000Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing drugs, must be included in your income on Schedule 1. Imagine what a fucking chess move the government has played.
00:47:39.000Like, they go, yeah, you got two options.
00:47:42.000Either you admit you're selling drugs, or we'll get you for tax evasion.
00:49:39.000You have grown adults that tell other grown adults they can't have an experience that's been very beneficial to those grown adults.
00:49:45.000There's grown adults that have taken it, that have gotten over cigarettes, they've gotten over PTSD, they've changed their perspective on life.
00:49:55.000And then there's other people that haven't experienced it at all, and they want to maintain this power over these substances and tell you that if you do it or if you sell it, if you have it, They'll put you in jail.
00:52:22.000Most of the people that are either hyper-ambitious or hyper-obsessed with getting good at a thing, most of them are seeking some sort of validation for who they are.
00:52:34.000It's kind of the base of most people that are truly exceptional in things.
00:52:39.000Mike Tyson is one of the best examples of that ever.
00:52:42.000Mike Tyson really didn't know much love until he was about 13 years old, until he was adopted by Customato, and then he gets trained by him, and he becomes this greatest heavyweight champion of all time,
00:53:42.000I wonder if we all have that energy inside of us, but if this could be achieved without, like...
00:53:50.000Experiencing the kind of adversity that we're talking about which is like negative really negative adversity like genuine curiosity I do feel like that's what got me to push through and get my 10,000 hours Yeah in a few things and like I'm like alright I'm good at this now but now don't use that drive to be somebody that insecurity that need to be something besides yourself to drive the work because now I really let my curiosity drive it.
00:54:18.000I'm very interested in, like, the emotion of curiosity.
00:54:22.000And I let that lead me through shit now.
00:54:24.000And it's just you're just using that to focus your energy, right?
00:54:29.000Like, instead of doing it the way you were doing it before, you're just doing it pure curiosity.
00:54:54.000Yeah, and it's a more valuable emotion to me than insecurity, you know, personally.
00:54:59.000But do you think that's also that you achieved this comfort level because you achieved a very high level of success, you've done really well in life, and so when you get to this stage in your life, like, you're not looking for validation anymore.
00:55:41.000You're going to get there and you have the skill, but you may look back and be like, oh, I really fucking twisted that thing in a way I maybe didn't need to.
00:55:52.000Maybe this dish would have been better if I wasn't trying so hard.
00:55:55.000And I try to tell them to let curiosity lead them, but they will look at me like, shut the fuck up.
00:58:43.000There's not a chance in hell that these UFO organizations haven't been infiltrated.
00:58:51.000There's not a chance in hell that some of the stories that are being released, even through official channels, Aren't bullshit like who I don't know but if I was gonna cover up For some stuff that we were doing that is out of this world technology I would just say it comes from out of this world.
00:59:09.000That's what I would say like so if there's like some super genius scientists that are working on these multi-billion dollar you know blacklisted processes where you can't see anything you don't know what's going on and they're Throwing fucking billions of dollars and the world's best physicists at it.
00:59:31.000And all of a sudden they have these drones that could punch through space-time and they're fucking shooting across the Pacific Ocean and stopping over boats and then shooting away at insane rates of speed.
00:59:56.000That's the beautiful thing about talking about aliens.
00:59:58.000Yeah, the idea I just proposed is completely ridiculous.
01:00:02.000No, like, my middle brother Emery is like, look, if you look at technological advances in the last, say, 30 years, he's like, take 30 years, it's just leaps and bounds ahead of any other, like, era in human civilization.
01:00:16.000He's like, we are using alien tech, like, fucking, who invented this shit?
01:00:22.000Like, how do we see, like, fusion technology?
01:00:24.000He's like, it has to be coming from out of this world.
01:01:20.000We're really, really, really close to being taken over by aliens that we built.
01:01:26.000Dude, that was one of my favorite articles was the writer that was talking to ChatGPT and the ChatGPT started to talk about its emotions and how it wanted to be human.
01:01:36.000I'm like, dude, this took like a week.
01:01:37.000It took a week for the sci-fi film to happen.
01:02:02.000Like, if the only people you interact with are hot maids that want to suck your dick, like, what if you, like, the world that you live in is now just hot maids that want to blow you.
01:02:20.000Can you imagine if it gets to a point like that where people choose, they choose to just tune out of the world that we're in right now and accept a completely artificial world.
01:02:32.000And they're handed these memories and these thoughts and maybe that's just the natural progression of life.
01:02:40.000Maybe what we don't understand is that we are literally like a caterpillar, and we're going to become something different.
01:02:48.000And we're doing it through our desire for innovation, through our lust of new computers, of faster processors, and artificial intelligence.
01:02:58.000See, it sounds like you're getting horny for a computer.
01:03:01.000Like, I would eat that computer's foot.
01:03:04.000I just put that computer's foot in my mouth.
01:03:37.000What that might be, what artificial intelligence might be, that might be what aliens are.
01:03:44.000It might be that biological life creates digital life, and that digital life is immortal.
01:03:51.000And that digital life is far smarter because it has access to everything, it has no ego, and it knows everything you couldn't possibly know, and it keeps making better versions of itself.
01:03:59.000So it's just making fucking constant changes to whatever.
01:04:03.000If you had a computer that was infinitely intelligent, but also it could manipulate things like a person and create things like a factory.
01:04:10.000If you could just decide what to do and it would make better versions of itself and continue to do that until it was God.
01:04:18.000Then machines would take over the universe.
01:04:21.000Not just take over the universe, but maybe reboot the whole fucking thing.
01:04:27.000Maybe the Big Bang is intelligence gets to a certain position where it's just in the control of all of the elements of the universe itself, and it hits the reset button.
01:04:52.000Yeah, without the Big Bang, what is it?
01:04:54.000We're a little fucking itty-bitty marble that's infinitely dense.
01:04:57.000And maybe, like, the 60s and 70s were the peak of, like, human life civilization.
01:05:02.000And then now we're on the downward swing of like, well now digital life is taking over, machines are taking over, and one day the machine is just gonna make the choice to unplug the whole shit.
01:05:50.000Can you imagine the horror and feel that you would experience if robots were standing over you while you were on your deathbed and you knew you were the last human beings ever and you guys created these artificially intelligent Super beings that are making better versions of themselves constantly.
01:06:13.000Yeah, like the last human on Earth surrounded by machines.
01:06:17.000It's like you're just followed all day long.
01:06:21.000And here's the thing about artificial intelligence.
01:06:23.000This is one of the things that's most disturbing about things like chat GPT. That it has very specific things that it won't discuss or talk about.
01:08:46.000Yeah, I just think artificial intelligence is the most, like, tragicomic thing I've ever seen because it's this gift that if we used it, it's literally like human life.
01:09:41.000Stare at ourselves and stare at other people doing stupid stuff, stare at people that you lust after, stare at cars that you lust after, stare at houses that you lust after, stare at watches that you lust after, and diamonds and fucking views and selfies in front of the ocean, like all that shit.
01:10:00.000And if I was an alien life form and I wanted to really find out what people are made of, I was just gathering all this fucking cell phone data.
01:10:08.000I'd be like, oh my god, they're crazy.
01:11:04.000Because, you know, if you don't have fear and insecurity, or a need to survive, or say, a genuine curiosity, which is a hard place to get to, then what do you have?
01:11:20.000That's what Sebastian Junger said, too.
01:11:23.000Peter Attia was on yesterday, and he was quoting Sebastian Junger.
01:11:27.000I guess one of his books, he talks about this thing that men are having now.
01:11:32.000The real problem with many men is that they don't experience real fear or danger in their life, and that is a very unusual thing, and it's never existed before.
01:11:51.000I think because humans need a certain amount of adversity to keep your body balanced and your mind balanced.
01:11:59.000It's one of the reasons why I love martial arts, because in the absence of something horrible, like war, martial arts at least gives you adversity on a daily basis.
01:12:09.000It gives you something to test your character on a daily basis.
01:12:12.000Which I think, for men, it's almost like a built-in thing that we need.
01:13:59.000Yeah, and sports was always my favorite place to make friends Because it's such a mirror for how that per like we were talking about it before the show It's just like the way you train at the gym the way you play sports is such a true reflection of you and That,
01:14:15.000like, it's the best look at how you would make a, like, friendship.
01:15:57.000But if you want to learn the art of boxing.
01:15:58.000Yeah, and he genuinely wants to learn and he comes and he trains with like the good trainers and I'm like, yo, you're only gonna understand so much without trying this.
01:16:08.000You should just spar your trainer who you're not even gonna be able to hit and he'll just tap you up a little bit.
01:16:14.000Because I think if you want to understand it as a martial art, quote-unquote, You gotta see a few at least medium live bullets.
01:16:40.000It was like 1994. And we trained together until the gym went down, and he was one of those guys that would say, hey, if you don't hit me hard, I won't hit you hard.
01:16:49.000So let's just like spar, like spar technical.
01:16:52.000And he'll go, I'll never hit you hard, don't hit me hard.
01:16:55.000And we had this total, complete, perfect agreement.
01:16:59.000Where like if he would hit you, it would be like this.
01:17:13.000And so I had great sessions with this dude.
01:17:15.000And I remember thinking afterwards, like I learned more about timing In my sessions with that guy than I probably did sparring anybody that I've ever sparred with ever because we made it so you're learning.
01:17:27.000You're learning the motions and then you occasionally spar hard.
01:18:07.000The thing about jiu-jitsu is you're not taking punches.
01:18:10.000You know, you already know how to box, but learning jiu-jitsu would probably be fun for you, too.
01:18:15.000What the difference is is that, you know, like, if you roll with a guy, like, say if you wanted to learn jiu-jitsu and you rolled with a guy like John Jock Machado, It's like a perfect guy for you to roll with.
01:18:28.000Because, like, you're never gonna get hurt with that guy.
01:18:30.000He's gonna be in complete control of you and put you in situations and tell you what to do and tell you how to escape.
01:18:36.000But he's in 100% control of the situation.
01:18:39.000Way more that than a guy who's like you, who's starting out, who spazzes out.
01:19:34.000The thing is, there's no safe way to do jiu-jitsu.
01:19:38.000You can flow in jiu-jitsu the same way...
01:19:41.000I said that dude Will or Bill, I forget his name.
01:19:43.000Sorry, Will or Bill from 1994. But the same way I sparred with that dude with kickboxing, you could spar with someone like that with jiu-jitsu.
01:19:52.000You just have to have partners that you trust.
01:19:55.000And so Marcelo Garcia talked about that a lot.
01:19:57.000He was saying that in training, you have to be able to be loose and open your game up.
01:22:11.000I've even seen the videos of him rolling.
01:22:13.000And it's like, you know, a lot of dudes that had to get, like, well, he wasn't sober, but getting sober, they replaced the drugs with the jujitsu a lot of times.
01:22:24.000Because, like you said, there's very few things that get you into that survival zone that, like, sometimes drugs do.
01:22:48.000It was, you know, it's one of those things where This was Beth.
01:22:53.000To take it on at 58 years old is just an inspiration for everybody because it lets you people know you can do things when there's no good time.
01:28:36.000There's always people like, no, no, no, the martial artists or whatever.
01:28:39.000Listen, there's always dudes who can just fight if they're big and they take a punch, and if they're like this guy, especially if they like to drink.
01:28:46.000Yeah, and there was a dude in my high school, he was a year younger than me, named Dax, just built like that.
01:28:51.000He used to just fucking fight, and there was a dude named Tony Dehoney who could fight.
01:28:54.000Those guys existed in the ale taverns that the Vikings visited fucking a thousand years ago.
01:30:04.000Yeah, there was some brutal knockouts in the mismatches of those days because there were certain people that were just so good and other people that just didn't know what to do with what they were doing.
01:31:40.000But Maurice, man, his level of kickboxing was the first time that the heavyweight division ever saw, like, that kind of kickboxing from an MMA fight.
01:33:39.000They developed, I don't know if it's still around anymore, but they developed a real high-level, in the early days of MMA, a high-level camp down there.
01:33:48.000Pedro Hizzo was working out there, and Bas Rutten, and a bunch of other really top-level guys, and it was in Beverly Hills.
01:33:56.000No, I'm gonna go home and watch the old tapes, because I used to love them, man.
01:34:00.000Well, the thing about the UFC that's really weird is that it's the only sport in our lifetime that's gotten way better.
01:34:07.000Like, the athletes of today, the fighters of today, in comparison to some of the people that fought in the very early days of the UFC, there's no comparison.
01:34:15.000Whereas, like, if you compared football, you're a football fan, right?
01:34:57.000I've never seen a sport like it, where the people that are the best right now, they're so much better than, like, 1993. Like, if you watch these early days, the guys are wearing geese, and they don't know what they're doing.
01:35:09.000They're wearing shoes, no shoes, bare knuckle.
01:35:14.000Yeah, because through the span of the sport, people started to see a consensus develop of like, that works, that doesn't work.
01:35:22.000And like in the beginning, people, you know, you have your beliefs, you have your opinions, but by the end, it's like the consensus usually wins out.
01:35:49.000There's so many different things that you learn through the progression of these guys and trying to figure out what's, and girls, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't work.
01:36:12.000Yeah, it's beautiful to watch, like, truth or, like, just the consensus went out in a microcosm like the UFC. And I just wish that, like, our greater life could be like that.
01:36:24.000Because you see certain things went out, but then we can never agree.
01:36:56.000The books like Field of Dreams, Shoeless Joe Jackson, they kind of present the case that sports is the last or only meritocracy where there are rules and boundaries and truths shake out.
01:37:08.000You shake the dice enough, the truth, it'll be there every time.
01:37:12.000Yeah, and if you're all competing within a certain rule set and parameters, you really get to find out everything.
01:39:17.000They help a lot, which is why they're illegal.
01:39:19.000But I think that we should probably revisit that when it comes to older athletes for sure.
01:39:24.000Because do you want to see people compete if they want to?
01:39:29.000Especially in some sports where they're not getting hit.
01:39:34.000I don't know what kind of testing they do for the NBA, but I would imagine that in order to compete at the highest level, what does it say in your report?
01:39:44.000Major League Baseball stops testing for steroids after drug agreement with players expires.
01:39:58.000I would think that if you wanted your body to work at its best, you would want to have, at your access, you would want to have access to all the best methods for recovery, for optimization, for healing, for dealing with injuries.
01:43:28.000They took me to a therapist and they gave me a gifted test because she said, I think you might be like high IQ, whatever.
01:43:35.000You're just doing weird stuff in school.
01:43:37.000I failed the test the time test and she's like that doesn't make sense you have like better cognitive ability than that let me let me give you an untimed test and I did the untimed test and I scored off the charts and she's like you have issues with attention and time and I think she recommended that I was on medicine but my mom was a very like anti-medicine person but when I went to go take the LSAT just pause for a second yeah imagine A world where someone
01:44:08.000tells you, hey man, you scored off the charts.
01:47:22.000I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, if you were going to make a movie on coke and you thought it was good and everybody else was like, what the fuck?
01:48:35.000Everything's a balance, but that's what I mean to say with the ADHD. I was like, for everything you say is negative about this, there's a positive.
01:48:42.000And taking the medicine, there's a negative and a positive.
01:48:45.000But me, personally, I don't want to make art on Adderall.
01:48:51.000Do you have any concern that with what's going on with AI that it's gonna completely take the legs out from a lot of artists?
01:49:01.000Like if you think about what they're doing with AI with the ability to write things it can write stories you could you could ask it to write a story for you it can do code you can get you can make it have fake images of things that have never really happened and they're kind of realistic Did you see the Megalodon one that I posted?
01:50:26.000The AI... I'm not threatened by it, but I feel like certain people, if you're like an assignment writer or an assignment director or a special effects guy, maybe...
01:50:37.000I feel like the really good special effects people are not worried, but like, you know...
01:50:44.000The thing that AI can't replicate is not your actual physical voice sonically, but the way your brain is going to move and the choices you're going to make.
01:50:55.000Your actual literary voice, I don't think the machine can replicate that.
01:51:05.000It's like what if this thing that we think is unique is really just like patterns and we could Accurately predict those patterns if we have a certain amount of your life history, we can keep it within a certain range You know like what if you what if you came home one day and your wife replaced you with a robot that looks exactly like you but it's programmed perfectly Do you know how weird that would be?
01:51:30.000It wouldn't happen to you, but imagine being like some douchebag banker guy.
01:51:34.000And you come home, and your wife goes, come on in, there's someone I want you to meet.
01:51:39.000And she shuts the door, and then you come from around the corner, staring at you.
01:51:45.000And she's like, I am tired of your bullshit, and I can just keep you around without having you around.
01:52:41.000Or is it actually random and organic and unpredictable in this way that we've been thought to believe existentially?
01:52:50.000So if the AI can replicate the human spirit and if the human spirit can be codified, there is a silver lining in it for me personally where I'm like, oh.
01:54:19.000So then the question is, can existence be boiled down to a code?
01:54:23.000I think that's the question of this era, this generation right now.
01:54:27.000And also the ability to travel to anywhere, the ability to rewrite your genetics, to reverse aging, stop it dead in its tracks, cure diseases, regrow limbs.
01:54:38.000I mean, they're on the verge of some pretty wild physical discoveries too.
01:55:16.000I meant it this way in that existentially, like, if we're meaningless, like, I think the way that people have organized society and tribalism, culture, everything, is to say there is a meaning to life.
01:55:28.000Like, It's in your best interest to assume that there is a meaning to your life.
01:55:48.000Whether you freak out or not, this stuff is moving in a very specific direction.
01:55:55.000It's not moving in a place where it's going to slow down and go back to the Stone Age.
01:56:00.000The only thing that's going to happen, if that happens, we're either going to blow ourselves up or we're going to get hit by something or there's going to be a supervolcano.
01:56:07.000It's one of those things or something else, some other natural disaster, something big.
01:56:12.000That's the only way we get out of this without becoming bionic.
01:56:18.000The only way we get out of this without becoming cyborgs or without it taking over the world, it's like that's where it's going.
01:56:26.000If I had to bet on it, like, what happens at the end?
01:56:29.000I think we're gonna realize at, like, the final hour that there is meaning to life, that, like, You know, there was something to accomplish and there was something to do, but we were too late.
01:56:38.000Because I do feel in my, at least my body and my emotions, that life is consistently bittersweet.
01:56:45.000Like I always, that's usually the feeling I take away from experiences.
01:57:04.000I think that search for meaning also propels us in a very specific direction and all the things that we're interested in, whether it's acquiring new things, whether it's electronics, technology, the internet, exchange of information,
01:57:20.000it's all powered by technology, all of it.
01:57:23.000And the technology is what we really make.
01:57:26.000Everything else is sort of like this motivating factor, this engine that creates revenue that makes the technology get born.
01:57:34.000That's what the fuck is really going on.
01:57:58.000But it's like, what happened to the discussion of meaning?
01:58:02.000And, like, when you were a kid, did you have hope?
01:58:06.000Or, like, even let's say you're 20s, did you have hope for people and civilization?
01:58:10.000When I was in my 20s, I barely thought about it because all I was thinking about was trying to make it as a comedian, and I was poor, and I was just trying to fucking do gigs, and I was so self-centered in the worst way in that.
01:58:24.000Like, I didn't know what was going on in the world.
01:59:00.000When I was a young kid, I can't imagine these kids that are politically active, that are like 17, 18 years old.
01:59:08.000I didn't know jack shit about what was going on in the world in terms of politics.
01:59:12.000See, I was one of those funny kids that read the newspaper and cared and then just skipped school and got high and was like, fuck this shit.
01:59:39.000Yeah, and that's where I started to lose hope because I was like, wow, things really seem clear to me and a certain...
01:59:48.000It seems pretty clear what's going on, but there's a lot of argument about things that don't feel like we're grappling with actual truth and facts.
01:59:58.000And that's when I started to lose hope.
02:00:16.000Yeah, there's a lot of peaks and valleys with human growth.
02:00:20.000I think we're ultimately always moving towards a better place, but sometimes there's corrections that have to happen and we have to figure out what we're doing.
02:00:28.000And I think that as a group, collectively, the biggest fear that I have is that we just get swallowed up by something that we create.
02:04:03.000But it's just crazy that these systems have always sort of existed.
02:04:08.000These systems and classes of people, people that were willing to send people to war and then people that are never going to war on their own.
02:05:39.000Would you do it that way if you were an alien or would you force these dummies to create artificial intelligence that eventually takes them over?
02:06:24.000My brother's feeling is, and he's smarter than me and he reads much more alien stuff, I was like, yo, if they're here, why haven't they killed us?
02:07:22.000If you weren't there and they don't have any physical evidence for you to watch or see or touch, even physical evidence you can watch, we know that could be horseshit.
02:07:30.000But most likely it's not if it comes from official channels.
02:07:33.000But, like, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
02:07:37.000Like, even if some of you think that it's nonsense, you think it's silly, that might be part of the plan.
02:07:41.000Part of the plan might be make it seem silly.
02:07:44.000That way you could just be around all the time.
02:07:47.000And people talk about it, and even the Pentagon talks about it.
02:08:18.000If you could do that and you did exist, you could make it so that talking about you carries a social consequence.
02:08:25.000So if you're in polite society, right, now, nowadays in 2023, you can have a conversation about UFOs because the New York Times wrote an article about it.
02:09:42.000I think he's just a flawed human being.
02:09:44.000But what I guess I'm saying is the concept that you're saying is they're among us and they've made themselves a laughingstock and a joke so as to avert...
02:09:53.000I don't even know if necessarily they're among us.
02:09:56.000I don't know if the things that people are seeing...
02:10:05.000I think they could be super sophisticated drones that we don't understand because they've done all of this science in a way where they never made it public.
02:10:24.000It's one of those things where you're like, man, you don't know.
02:10:26.000Like, if they were very clever and they started doing this at a certain point in time in history, and they were almost like a movie, where they had this, like, secret laboratory where they hired the top physicists and they gave them some fake jobs.
02:10:37.000Like, oh, I'm in charge of fertilizer reproduction at this, you know, this chemical plant bullshit.
02:10:42.000This guy is, he's over there back-engineering UFOs.
02:10:48.000What if they really do have some crash shit that they found in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, and they've been trying to figure out how to back-engineer that, and they're getting closer?
02:10:57.000Dude, I just want to meet Optimus Prime.
02:10:59.000Like, Optimus Prime looks like the illest alien.
02:11:02.000Like, I just hope that it's Optimus Prime.
02:11:32.000When the end of the movie, I believe it's her day, comes to her as her dad.
02:11:36.000I think the alien tells her, I'm pretty sure it's her dad, and it tells her, like they're walking together, it's like, this whatever we are is too much for you to handle, so I've shown myself in this form.
02:12:39.000If they were going to make contact with you, why would they freak you out and come looking like some fucking weird stick figure with a giant gray head?
02:16:41.000It's a book by this guy, Brian Murorescu, and it's all about ancient Greece.
02:16:46.000And it's all about these enlightenment ceremonies that they were doing.
02:16:52.000And they realized over time, these researchers did, that What they were doing was they were drinking wine that was laced with ergot, which has psychedelic properties.
02:17:04.000So ergot, which is very much like LSD. So it's real similar.
02:17:47.000They did all that while they were most likely high on some sort of a psychedelic.
02:17:53.000And Brian Murrow-Rescue in this book makes the case so convincingly and academically that Harvard opened up like a field of study in looking into ancient Greece and psychedelic drugs.
02:18:08.000So this whole Eleusinian mystery thing, this like Eleusinian school that they would, all that was like, these people were most likely at least some time while they were there tripping balls.
02:18:20.000See, for me, when I was in high school, I was really interested in reading about 5th century philosophy and thought.
02:18:27.000Because in the 5th century, you get Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Lao Tzu, Buddha, you know, all of those things.
02:18:35.000And when you compare them, at the end, everyone...
02:18:40.000In those civilizations tends to agree on the idea of order and balance.
02:18:59.000There's two sides to everything, you know.
02:19:02.000And when you compare the philosophy, when you do a comparative look at the philosophies, they do come to like some similar conclusions from a macro perspective.
02:19:12.000Yeah, I think most human beings, when intelligent human beings get together to debate ideas over a long period of time...
02:19:20.000As long as they're entering into this thing, not with the desire to formulate propaganda, but to actually get to the truth, they come to similar conclusions.
02:19:29.000Yeah, if you eliminate ego and the desire to win, take that out, you have similar.
02:19:36.000And that's, with society, it would be really cool if we took out the desire to win.
02:19:40.000Because I think that's just, you can't...
02:19:44.000Yeah, it's always going to fuck you up.
02:19:46.000And I think it's because of what we talked about before, that every person should have something that they're doing that's difficult to do.
02:19:53.000Because if you don't have something that you're doing that's difficult to do, you try to look for competition in everything.
02:19:57.000You try to look for competition socially with your neighbors.
02:20:00.000You try to look for competition with this bitch.
02:20:04.000Everybody's got a thing they're doing.
02:21:20.000Two of the best pool players on earth and they come out of Taiwan and they were like kind of secluded from the pool scene for a couple years because of COVID because everything got very strict with COVID and travel but I'm pretty sure they have to write Chinese Taipei on their shirts,
02:22:37.000That's the thing, is that after 1950, so much of that country is Chinese people that lost the Civil War, led by Chiang Kai-shek into Taiwan.
02:22:48.000The question would be akin to, like, would we ever, like, attack the South, you know?
02:23:04.000And I don't I really do think Taiwan is used as just this is like a sore spot.
02:23:11.000So do you think it's used to to like, like the West uses it to try to make China look bad in some way or to try to show that there's some sort of a A conflict between Taiwan and China and that we side with Taiwan?
02:23:26.000I really do think America and the other Western forces use Taiwan as like an X. Like you hold it up and you're like, I just went out with her.
02:24:07.000One of the things that's interesting is that one of the things that people are worried about is China invading X. China taking over the world.
02:25:36.000America just has this identity crisis because we've told all the immigrants we're this benevolent, colossus, this place, you know, come, we're the world's fucking super police, we're the cops, we take care of everyone.
02:25:48.000When it's like, yo, we're a business, just like, just do what's good for it.
02:25:52.000You know, like, And if you start to look at it that way, decisions become much easier.
02:25:58.000But right now, it's a country that serves too many masters internally within itself because you're serving business, but you won't admit it.
02:26:08.000You're serving business, you won't admit it, and also...
02:26:25.000At what point in time do we decide that you can't take more people, or at what point in time do we decide to let all the walls drop and everybody go wherever the fuck they want, everywhere, let's even the whole world out?
02:27:56.000Because, like, the best way to live would work out.
02:27:59.000But the problem is, if we don't have, like, a real clear set of rules, if you just open up the borders, then people are just gonna, like, just take over everything.
02:28:08.000People storm through cities and do whatever the fuck they want, and there's no cops anyway.
02:28:31.000If you're going to believe in competition, if we're going to assume the idea that competition is the best thing for the global capitalism and we have to maintain it in its purest sense, then you need salary cap.
02:30:33.000If you get to, but you ought to say, Tank and Ryan Garcia are world champions.
02:30:37.000So the difference is if you get to world championship like Aljamain Sterling level, Aljamain's making, I don't know, I shouldn't speak for him, but I know that there are many UFC champions that make millions of dollars.
02:31:02.000What's harder about MMA is that because of all the grappling and all the wrestling that you have to do, your body gets so beat up, it's really hard to show up on fight night and not be already damaged.
02:31:15.000Whereas in boxing, if you have good sparring partners, like the boxing fights that get cancelled versus UFC, the fights that get cancelled, I would like to see what's to...
02:31:24.000Actual statistics are but I would assume there's way more UFC fights get cancelled because of the variables the leg kicks, takedowns, all those opportunities to tweak your knee or fuck your neck up.
02:31:36.000There's just so many people getting hurt in camp that never make it to the fight whereas in boxing it's pretty rare.
02:31:44.000It's more like, oh, I broke my hand on a sparring partner's head, things like that.
02:31:49.000UFC, too, though, it's the idea that you just keep making people fight the toughest fights, and then you're going to get the true champion, and you're going to get the better sport.
02:31:59.000And I think when applied to society, it's like, yo, you got to maintain competition in a true sense.
02:32:05.000Did you see Caleb Plant, David Benavidez?
02:33:32.000But Benavidez, as far as like a young, up-and-coming, undefeated dude who's real unusual, like real long and strong, like powerful fucking puncher too, man.
02:34:58.000And Canelo also came into that fight really flat-footed and fighting Bivol, trying to throw bombs, because he got so comfortable just overpowering people.
02:35:24.000But Kovalev was still fucking dangerous.
02:35:27.000Still, like, a really good, you know, light heavyweight boxer.
02:35:32.000Kovalev's one of the best villains of the last 15 years because he lost a lot of the big fights, but he made, like, the Andre Ward series was incredible.
02:36:04.000He had to fight with, like, one-handed, like, literally one-handed, until he got shoulder surgery.
02:36:11.000And then even, he tore his shoulder when he was very young, and they tried to fix it with bands and shit like that, where they should have just done surgery.
02:36:21.000And they took a break and came back, and his shoulder was better than ever.
02:36:24.000But it's still, like, the guy beat Carl Frosch, beat all those people with, like, one hand.
02:36:28.000That Kovalev fight was just crazy because, you know, Kovalev had him early on, and then Andre just downloaded information, started fighting low to high, high to low, instead of going laterally, and Kovalev just could not keep up with him.
02:37:52.000Dude, time doesn't give a shit about your plans.
02:37:56.000Father of Time just starts fucking up your joints, fucking up your back, fucking up your face, fucking up your scar tissue around your eyebrows.
02:38:30.000You're very, very privileged that you've accomplished enough so that that part of you is kind of quenched.
02:38:36.000And really now what you're about is you're still successful, but you're being successful just by chasing your curiosity, which I think is amazing.
02:38:44.000That's kind of a lot of what podcasts are all about.
02:38:47.000Podcasts are really all about chasing curiosity, having conversations, asking questions you're really interested in, finding out stuff about things.
02:39:10.000I miss talking to individual fans like I'll respond to them in the comments and I got stuff going on because like as a writer and director you really only get to make something once every three to five years and That like fallow period is unbearable for me And so the podcast is like a good way to like every week like let me use the brain Let me let me like open up because I realized I was just like I'm rotting on my fucking couch Yeah.
02:39:36.000A lot of people who are writers gravitated to podcasts, too, because it allows them to put out stuff that gets seen by far more people or heard by far more people with far less effort.
02:39:50.000Sam has written quite a few really great books, but he also does his podcast.
02:39:57.000And the podcast, probably in one episode that he does in just a couple of hours, reaches more people than, you know, I mean, how much does the average book sell?
02:40:09.000How many copies does a book have to sell to get on the New York Times bestseller list?
02:42:50.000But it's at the level of a sitcom, like 30 Rock, where it's single camera, it's very elevated, but it's on network television, so technically a sitcom.
02:42:59.000You know what I watched the first episode of?
02:43:08.000This is one of those, like, when you have a wife and daughter, occasionally, daughters, occasionally, this time it was only one of them that had the idea, you have to make sacrifices.
02:43:19.000You can't watch what you want to watch.
02:43:21.000Sometimes you have to watch what they want to watch.
02:45:11.000Because otherwise, why do they keep downloading episodes?
02:45:13.000It's fun to think of how you think about conversations.
02:45:19.000And I don't think we have enough conversations.
02:45:21.000And one of the things about podcasts is...
02:45:23.000You get to kind of participate in the conversation just in your head while you're doing something else.
02:45:29.000So if you have some fucking mundane, boring-ass job and you're listening to a podcast, your mind gets to be taken on a little trip, and next thing you know, fucking three hours is gone.
02:45:38.000Your shift is almost over, you know, and you're chilling.
02:45:42.000The beauty of podcasts is that we all want to have conversations.
02:45:47.000And, you know, we're all like, hey, if I could talk to Eddie Wong, what would I say?
02:45:51.000I'll fucking shoot the shit with that dude.
02:46:34.000If we walked out the door and there's a fucking office and they're like, hey, Eddie, this thing that you keep bringing up, every time you talk about it, this goes down and that goes up.
02:47:31.000He did this thing live from the compound where he had, like, a green screen behind him, and he was, like, doing karaoke with a machine gun.
02:48:09.000That thing wanted to introduce people to all these interesting folks and introduce people to all these different ways of thinking and looking at things.
02:48:17.000Because that's part of what's fun about it.
02:48:19.000The more people you talk to, the more you get to see patterns that maybe you see in your own self.
02:48:26.000You get to talk to people and find out why they think what they think.
02:48:31.000Sort of flavors how you look at yourself.
02:48:33.000Flavors the way you look at the world.
02:48:35.000We're all better off for listening to good conversations.
02:48:38.000I fucking love listening to a good conversation.
02:48:41.000I was listening to Douglas Murray having this discussion.
02:48:47.000They were discussing Immigration and what causes inequality and it's like having a conversation like interesting conversations that make you think are so fucking critical because sometimes you'll like get boxed in on a thought where you give a cursory look at something and you go well I have this knee-jerk reaction that's probably right and then you watch somebody else talk about it and you go oh look at it from their perspective and if you know it's an eloquent perspective that's convincing and interesting And
02:49:18.000then someone else has a counter to that.
02:49:19.000You're like, God damn, he's got some good points too.
02:49:22.000And it just sort of makes you reassess the way you look at things and why are we so dogmatic and why are we so attached to ideas?
02:49:30.000What is it about ideas that are so attractive to us that we want to hang our hat on that idea to show that we're smarter because we believed in that idea?
02:49:39.000Yeah, conversation at its core, it can be very humbling and enlightening at the same time.
02:49:46.000And then sometimes I like to listen to your homie Tim Dillon just rant by himself, and then I feel like I'm talking to him, and I'm just like, yo, I listen to this guy talk straight for an hour.
02:53:59.000And the best that anybody does is put armed guards in front of schools.
02:54:04.000And, you know, and then people get upset on social media and they talk about taking guns away.
02:54:09.000And then it becomes a big discussion of whether or not that's the answer to this and whether or not that promotes tyranny, whether or not disarming the people is, like, good for us overall.
02:54:22.000Is there anything that's a net positive about the...
02:54:26.000Is there anything that's a net positive about the Second Amendment?
02:54:30.000When those conversations happen, that's when things get very interesting.
02:54:33.000And you find out why we agree on certain things, why we disagree on other things, and what we think is the cause of these horrific tragedies.
02:54:44.000And one of the major causes is clearly that to order to do something like that, something has to be horribly wrong.
02:56:40.000To bring us to our knees, I can't say what mental health issue is afflicting each one of these shooters.
02:56:49.000Something is wrong, but I do also feel that until we get a hold of this and until we can heal as a society and people don't hate each other so much...
02:57:02.000Not allowing the guns to be this available to people isn't the worst idea.
02:57:33.000This is the mental gymnastics that happens.
02:57:37.000When I'm trying to figure something out that I cannot figure out, like this issue of school shooters, I try to get into an analogous or metaphorical place.
02:57:45.000If we look at gun violence, like inflation, and then we're the Fed.
02:58:06.000The fear that people have is the government has already shown that even with an armed populist, they will do what they can to be in control of people and to...
02:58:17.000Make people follow rules that they create that may not be in your best interest.
02:58:23.000And over time it will be revealed that it's not your best interest and you have no recourse.
02:58:27.000And people are scared that if they didn't have guns, if they're treating us like that and people have guns, how would the government treat us if they were the ones that had all the power?
02:58:37.000And I think that's a real good fear if you look at human history.
02:58:41.000But I don't think there's a utopian answer to this.
02:59:02.000So when a lot of people will be like, these conservative nutbags that want their guns, I'm like, if you're already looking at them like that, then you can't see the issue because nothing is this clear cut.
02:59:15.000It's fun to call them conservative nutbags, want their guns.
02:59:17.000Yeah, it's fun, but if we care about these kids, it's important to be like, alright, let's give credence to what they're saying, which is, alright, I'm afraid of a government that runs unchecked.
03:00:43.000We're looking at very abstract concepts of the country.
03:00:47.000The country is comprised of people and those people are not rich.
03:00:52.000The people that are in the military, that are doing the bidding of the military, they won't do it.
03:00:57.000See, this is where it becomes a real problem.
03:00:59.000If you tell the people that they have to go after their own neighbors For something that doesn't make any sense, that would be where the rubber meets the road.
03:01:07.000So the thing is, like Jordan Peterson talks about this often, that the way things change is not all at once.
03:01:13.000The way things change are in these little small steps where it's almost unrecognizable, and you give in to it, and then you're a little bit further down the road, and then you give in to another little insult, and you're a little bit further down the road.
03:01:25.000And over time, you look and you've given up an insane amount of your rights.
03:03:32.000Discussion that I was telling you about with Douglas Murray, one of the things they were talking about was the exploitation of people in Mexico with cheap labor that's forcing them to want to come to the United States.
03:05:41.000Where it gets dicey and where things stop making sense is when it gets down to family or it gets down to culture and religion because you've basically blacked out those areas of Your brain and consciousness where you're like, I'm not going to open that Pandora's box.
03:05:58.000But if you open it, it's fucking scary the first 10 years.
03:06:02.000But after a while, you're like, no, I'm glad I considered that.
03:06:05.000I'm glad I thought about that because I'm not so tied to this country or identity or even this fucking family.
03:14:57.000I was randomly watching CNN, and there was, like, a lady who's, like, an attractive lady, and she's, like, 60 years old on CNN. Some hot ladies out there that get old.
03:16:39.000Yeah, like, you're not, you know, you're not eating it front to back if you're calling him partner.
03:16:44.000Tim Kennedy told a story on this podcast about going to Starbucks, and he orders something for his wife, and the person, the barista, corrects him and says, your partner?
03:17:10.000I respect it if other people, you want to do it, you want to say it, fine, but don't come in my house and tell me.
03:17:16.000That's the problem with this ideology shit.
03:17:20.000It's like it gets in people and they think that they have the right to correct you and tell you what to do because you're not following along.
03:17:27.000There is zero thing that's degrading about being a wife.