The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1962 - Eddie Huang

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00:00:13.000 What up, man?

00:00:13.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:00:14.000 What's cracking?

00:00:15.000 Been forever.

00:00:16.000 I feel 2017, I think, was the last time.

00:00:19.000 Well, I have to go back and check, but was the last time that I saw you on the podcast?

00:00:23.000 Was that the last time I saw you?

00:00:25.000 I think it was.

00:00:26.000 We came with, like, a voting expert before the election.

00:00:31.000 Like, it might have been, like, 2017. That's right.

00:00:34.000 I think, because we did hot yoga, then I came back on the show.

00:00:37.000 Yeah, we did hot yoga for your show.

00:00:39.000 That was fun.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:40.000 That was dope.

00:00:41.000 That was fun.

00:00:42.000 That was fun.

00:00:43.000 Then Vice ran out of money and, you know, couldn't do the show anymore.

00:00:47.000 Well, somebody got money. 0.98

00:00:48.000 Didn't Shane Smith make a fucking ton of loot? 0.99

00:00:52.000 Shane's the man. 0.98

00:00:52.000 Yeah, I love that dude. 0.98

00:00:53.000 I still talk to Shane, but, no, it was, I think the end of Wong's World was just, they were like, yo, we still want to do Wong's World, but can we make it domestic?

00:01:01.000 And I wanted to do films, and I was just like, love you, I'm going to go make this film.

00:01:07.000 So they wanted to do it in the United States because of travel costs?

00:01:11.000 Yeah.

00:01:11.000 And just because Viceland the first couple years, it was just the accounting was off.

00:01:19.000 People were just spending money crazy. 0.98

00:01:21.000 Bro, it started out, they would take these guys with glasses on, these nerds, and send them over to the middle of a goddamn war zone. 0.81

00:01:29.000 These dudes would be filming with a flak jacket on, and bombs are blowing off in the Middle East, and they're just reporting there. 0.93

00:01:34.000 You're like, what?

00:01:34.000 Whoa, Vice is wild.

00:01:36.000 Yeah, it was the best, because Vice would just pick the most dangerous shit and be like, here's $30,000, go with a 5D camera, and fucking come back with some footage and try not to die. 0.98

00:01:50.000 And then, once it became the TV channel, it got crazy. 0.96

00:01:54.000 I mean, I was probably the biggest perpetrator, so in all fairness to Shane, somebody needed to be like, Eddie, you're burning money crazy.

00:02:02.000 Because I was going to F1 tracks, and I literally, the last episode, I went on an F1 track in Abu Dhabi, and Shane was there, and he's like, what are you doing here? 0.99

00:02:12.000 You're a fucking food show. 0.98

00:02:14.000 And I was like, I don't know, I got to drive this car! 1.00

00:02:18.000 It's like getting caught by your boss.

00:02:20.000 That's hilarious.

00:02:21.000 We're here to try Formula One food, bro.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, I was like, I'm going to try the concessions.

00:02:26.000 Dude, they sent David Cho to the Congo to look for a dinosaur.

00:02:32.000 Have you ever seen that?

00:02:34.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:02:34.000 That's the most ridiculous shit of all time. 1.00

00:02:37.000 It might be the greatest Vice episode ever. 1.00

00:02:39.000 Bro, it's an amazing episode.

00:02:40.000 Yeah.

00:02:40.000 That and Haimo's Arctic Adventure.

00:02:43.000 That's my favorite one.

00:02:44.000 That's the one about that dude who lives in Alaska.

00:02:47.000 His subsistence survives in this very small cabin.

00:02:50.000 Yeah.

00:02:50.000 And he's the last person that's allowed to own this cabin in this wilderness.

00:02:54.000 I haven't seen it.

00:02:55.000 Woo! 0.99

00:02:56.000 That one's heavy.

00:02:57.000 That's heavy.

00:02:58.000 But the show episode's the best because there's so many people now, especially in L.A., that are like, for a honeymoon or for the holidays, I'm going to go to the Congo.

00:03:07.000 I want to go to West Africa.

00:03:09.000 And I'm just like, bro, watch that episode real quick.

00:03:12.000 Yeah, watch that episode.

00:03:12.000 That's not where you're staying, but it's close to where you're trying to go.

00:03:16.000 Check that episode out.

00:03:17.000 You're in the middle of a conflict zone.

00:03:19.000 It's very dangerous being down there.

00:03:22.000 It's just...

00:03:25.000 And probably no dinosaurs.

00:03:27.000 There's probably no dinosaurs.

00:03:29.000 I want to go to Ethiopia, but I'm not going wherever Cho went.

00:03:32.000 I'm like, I'm not going back.

00:03:33.000 David's wild, man.

00:03:34.000 He camped with the Hadza.

00:03:37.000 He stayed with the Hadza and went hunting with them. 0.98

00:03:40.000 He was saying that when they shot, they were shooting baboons to eat.

00:03:43.000 And he said, it's crazy when they shoot a baboon, it grabs the arrow.

00:03:47.000 I'm like, you see it grabbed out, you're like, yo, that's a little too weird, you know?

00:03:53.000 Cho was really putting himself in danger.

00:03:55.000 I was like, I was more like the Vanderpump Cho, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:04:00.000 I was like, let's have a nice fucking... 0.98

00:04:02.000 Formula One in Abu Dhabi. 0.99

00:04:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:05.000 Let's live it up.

00:04:05.000 Beautiful people, beautiful land.

00:04:07.000 Yeah, let's see some fucking people here. 1.00

00:04:10.000 Have a good time. 0.99

00:04:11.000 Stay in a nice hotel.

00:04:12.000 I chose like the opposite of conflict zones.

00:04:16.000 I've been to Dubai once.

00:04:19.000 There was a UFC in Abu Dhabi, and we did the weigh-ins in Dubai.

00:04:24.000 And that was the only time I've ever been there.

00:04:26.000 But I was like, wow, this place is crazy.

00:04:28.000 But everybody I know that goes over there says, you can't even believe what you're looking.

00:04:32.000 There's no crime.

00:04:33.000 And it's this massive city.

00:04:36.000 And everything's opulent and beautiful, and people are moving there just because it's an amazing place to live.

00:04:43.000 Yeah, but the funny thing is, I'm just like, how long is this thing gonna last?

00:04:47.000 Because they're, like, importing water for, like, plumbing, you know?

00:04:52.000 How are they doing that?

00:04:53.000 I mean, I think they're just stealing water from everywhere.

00:04:56.000 Like, we steal water, you know?

00:04:58.000 Who owns the water?

00:05:00.000 I have no idea.

00:05:01.000 I didn't look into it.

00:05:03.000 But it's like all the workers are brought in.

00:05:05.000 All the water is brought in.

00:05:06.000 It's like in the middle of nowhere in the desert.

00:05:09.000 It's Daniel Day-Lewis.

00:05:10.000 I drink your milkshake.

00:05:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:14.000 But I love Dubai.

00:05:15.000 Dubai was a great time.

00:05:17.000 It's beautiful over there.

00:05:18.000 At least the small amount of it I saw.

00:05:21.000 Vice had a very disturbing piece about them back in the day, too.

00:05:25.000 About the construction.

00:05:26.000 Yes, the migrant workers.

00:05:28.000 They crushed. 1.00

00:05:30.000 They need to do, like, a sex worker special in Dubai, too, because the stories I hear from, like, the people who have gone there for some work, like, shitting in buckets, dog. 0.99

00:05:41.000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 0.99

00:05:42.000 Like, shitting in buckets in Dubai. 0.99

00:05:44.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

00:05:45.000 I feel like that would be a good title of a doc. 0.99

00:05:48.000 Shitting in buckets? 1.00

00:05:49.000 Shitting in buckets in Dubai. 1.00

00:05:50.000 Oh. 1.00

00:05:51.000 Oh.

00:05:54.000 That's what's so fascinating about people, that there's people that are living at the top of luxury at the same time people are living on dirt floors with no electricity in a shack that they built out of scraps just trying to figure out how to eat that day.

00:06:12.000 And that there's more of those people than there are the people living in luxury.

00:06:16.000 But if you look at any kind of billboards and advertisement, depictments of life, it's almost always The luxury one. 0.50

00:06:25.000 It's always the person with the fucking fantastic view of the ocean behind them when they're eating their breakfast at some luxury five-star resort.

00:06:34.000 Like, that's what people look towards. 0.98

00:06:36.000 Yeah.

00:06:36.000 But it's all existing simultaneously.

00:06:38.000 And then the guy that's actually living the luxurious life, not the actor on the billboard, he's like painting an escort to shit in a bucket and then fucking eat it with a caviar spoon. 1.00

00:06:47.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:06:47.000 No! 1.00

00:06:48.000 Yeah, bro, that's what I'm talking about.

00:06:50.000 Oh my god, I thought they didn't have bathrooms.

00:06:52.000 No. 1.00

00:06:53.000 I didn't understand you were saying shit in a bucket because that's a kink. 1.00

00:06:55.000 Yeah, like, put your fucking clear heels on and shit in this bucket. 1.00

00:07:02.000 Bro. 1.00

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 How much does a girl get paid for something like that?

00:07:06.000 Jamie just made a noise.

00:07:09.000 I'm gonna plead ignorance.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, out of all the acts that you would have someone do, imagine like that's your thing.

00:07:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:19.000 I would really like to watch you take a shit in a bucket. 1.00

00:07:22.000 Really? 1.00

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 Let's see what you had for lunch.

00:07:26.000 Oh, God.

00:07:28.000 Is that Terry Black's barbecue in there?

00:07:30.000 Jesus Christ.

00:07:33.000 Jesus Christ.

00:07:35.000 It just goes all the way around, man.

00:07:37.000 You get to the top, you get rich, and then I think you just want to eat like...

00:07:40.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:07:41.000 There's different jobs that suck, but anytime you're dealing with human shit, that's as far on the bad side of the spectrum as is possible. 1.00

00:07:51.000 If you are interacting with other people's shit, like, ooh, that's not a good job. 1.00

00:07:55.000 Yeah, and human shit is different than dog shit. 1.00

00:07:57.000 Oh, way different. 1.00

00:07:58.000 Dog shit, I'm like, alright. 1.00

00:08:00.000 I had to pick up human shit once, and I was like, bro, this... 1.00

00:08:03.000 This is fucking crazy. 1.00

00:08:06.000 It's too close to home, man. 1.00

00:08:08.000 Bro, our diets are terrible.

00:08:10.000 Yeah.

00:08:11.000 I mean, dogs, most of the time, are just eating dog food.

00:08:15.000 What's interesting about a dog is if you give a dog something other than what it's accustomed to eating, they get diarrhea. 0.99

00:08:20.000 Have you ever had to pick up another human shit? 0.99

00:08:24.000 Other than my kids when they were little? 1.00

00:08:26.000 You know, you have to clean their diaper, and sometimes there's a mess.

00:08:31.000 No, I don't think so.

00:08:32.000 It's interesting when it's a child, though.

00:08:34.000 When it's a child, like, it's like it doesn't even phase you.

00:08:37.000 It's like it's you. 1.00

00:08:38.000 It's like cleaning your own shit. 1.00

00:08:40.000 It's really interesting. 1.00

00:08:41.000 It's like, you know, if someone was right next to you on an airplane, they were changing a baby diaper, which has happened to me before.

00:08:47.000 You're like, yo.

00:08:48.000 Like, you gotta look away.

00:08:50.000 Like, it's... 1.00

00:08:52.000 The smell and this little baby's assholes all fucking covered in poop. 1.00

00:08:56.000 You know, it's just like, okay, but what do you got to do? 1.00

00:08:59.000 Like, I get it.

00:08:59.000 You got to change.

00:09:00.000 But if it's your kid, it's weird. 1.00

00:09:02.000 It's like it doesn't seem even like, you know, when you take a shit. 0.99

00:09:05.000 It's very rare that I take a shit and I'm like, Jesus Christ, let me get out of here. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Like, what the fuck is that smell? 0.99

00:09:10.000 Like, maybe once every three or four months. 0.99

00:09:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:13.000 Most of the time I take a shit, it's normal. 0.99

00:09:15.000 I just flush it, it's normal. 1.00

00:09:16.000 That's what it's like when it's a kid's shit. 0.99

00:09:17.000 It's like it doesn't even, it's not even gross. 0.99

00:09:19.000 I think I'm once a month stinky.

00:09:22.000 Like, once a month, I'm like, mm.

00:09:24.000 Once a month.

00:09:25.000 Don't try that recipe again. 0.99

00:09:27.000 It's usually when I feel like a rumble before I know I have to take a shit. 0.99

00:09:31.000 Like, geez, what is that? 0.99

00:09:32.000 Okay, I better get in there.

00:09:33.000 And then when you get in there, just whoa!

00:09:35.000 And whatever that rumble is, is probably some gases that have been stewing up inside of your bowels. 1.00

00:09:42.000 No, I knew I really loved my wife because one day I had to pick up her shit and I was like, bro, picking up adult human shit is fucking crazy. 1.00

00:09:52.000 Babies, I get it. 1.00

00:09:54.000 Babies, you expect it. 0.61

00:09:55.000 I think a lot of your reactions in life, it's about expectation.

00:10:00.000 Like, if you're expecting to be punched in the face, it doesn't...

00:10:02.000 Like, you're not gonna get knocked out.

00:10:03.000 People always say that.

00:10:04.000 Yes, that's true.

00:10:04.000 You see it coming, you won't get knocked out.

00:10:06.000 Well, sometimes you still get knocked out.

00:10:08.000 Depends on how hard somebody hits you.

00:10:10.000 Like, if Francis Ngannou hits you in the face...

00:10:12.000 Yeah, I would be knocked out. 0.75

00:10:13.000 Most of us are getting knocked out.

00:10:15.000 For sure.

00:10:15.000 Almost everybody.

00:10:16.000 For sure.

00:10:17.000 If it really hits you.

00:10:18.000 But I think if it's somebody that's like on his level and sees it coming and in a fight with him, I feel like maybe...

00:10:25.000 Maybe, probably not.

00:10:27.000 But the point is that if you don't see it, it's amazing what knocks you out.

00:10:31.000 Yeah.

00:10:31.000 Like a lot of things knock you out.

00:10:32.000 It could be light.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, it's not, it just has to hit you clean.

00:10:35.000 Yeah.

00:10:36.000 Yeah.

00:10:36.000 That's what happened.

00:10:36.000 My girl had like a crazy food poisoning moment.

00:10:40.000 And then she was like, yo, Eddie, come downstairs.

00:10:44.000 I was like, what, what? 0.99

00:10:45.000 And she was like, I shit on the floor. 1.00

00:10:50.000 And it turned out like I can't tell the whole story because she's got to tell it one day like but like it turned out it wasn't food poisoning.

00:10:58.000 She had a much more serious like health condition situation.

00:11:02.000 But like I turned when she's like I shit on the floor and I saw like a little Hershey kiss. 0.96

00:11:07.000 I'm like I like it's still weird.

00:11:09.000 You didn't make it to the bathroom, but like that's not bad.

00:11:13.000 If you love her, it's a good test.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, I picked it up.

00:11:17.000 It's like, whatever.

00:11:17.000 I picked it up, you know?

00:11:19.000 Yeah.

00:11:19.000 If you had to do it every day, get tiresome, though.

00:11:21.000 No. 0.99

00:11:22.000 If she started testing your boundaries, Amber Heard style, she'll start shitting in your bed. 1.00

00:11:27.000 And then they also did something with Taco Bell. 0.99

00:11:29.000 There was something about Amber Heard and Taco Bell, and I can't remember.

00:11:32.000 Bro, I guarantee you that's a boundary-testing maneuver.

00:11:36.000 If I had a guess, you know, I would guess.

00:11:39.000 See, that's what I thought at first, too.

00:11:41.000 I was like, yo, you're testing me.

00:11:42.000 You're doing all those things?

00:11:43.000 But it wasn't.

00:11:44.000 I pick up this Hershey Kiss, and then I'm like, alright, that's not bad.

00:11:48.000 I'll do it.

00:11:48.000 I'm just going to play along.

00:11:49.000 You got food poisoning.

00:11:51.000 I turn. 0.99

00:11:51.000 And there is a giant pile of shit in my, like, pajama pants. 0.99

00:11:55.000 These Redskins pajama pants. 1.00

00:11:57.000 And I was like, ah!

00:11:58.000 I just, like, jumped and screamed, like, what's going on? 0.99

00:12:00.000 She's like, I told you I shit on the floor. 1.00

00:12:02.000 She's like, aren't you glad I shit in the pajama pants instead of the floor? 0.99

00:12:05.000 And I was like, yeah. 0.99

00:12:07.000 And then I, like, wrapped it like lotus leaf sticky rice and just ran to the garbage can.

00:12:11.000 You didn't wash it out?

00:12:12.000 No.

00:12:13.000 Are they your favorite pajamas?

00:12:14.000 No, no, no.

00:12:15.000 The pajamas gotta go. 1.00

00:12:16.000 Once your girl takes his shit in your pants, they gotta go. 1.00

00:12:19.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:12:19.000 You're supposed to clean them and go, hey baby, remember these? 1.00

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 Yeah.

00:12:23.000 These are my favorites. 0.76

00:12:25.000 It's horny time. 1.00

00:12:27.000 You shit all over them. 1.00

00:12:27.000 It's horny time. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Let's get horny. 1.00

00:12:32.000 I was mad at her at first. 1.00

00:12:34.000 Then I found out girls were getting paid 60 G's to go shit in a bucket in Dubai. 1.00

00:12:37.000 60 G's? 1.00

00:12:38.000 You just dropped the number.

00:12:40.000 We were wondering.

00:12:41.000 I was like, I just threw away $60,000 value here.

00:12:44.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:12:45.000 I think they have to be there when it happens.

00:12:47.000 I think after the fact, it's not as valuable.

00:12:50.000 We didn't enjoy it.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:52.000 Also, probably part of the kink is that you're asking for it and then they do it. 0.89

00:12:58.000 That's probably part of the kink. 0.99

00:12:59.000 It's not that you just like randomly saw someone take a shit. 1.00

00:13:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:13:03.000 Just like you asked them to do it and then they go, alright. 0.99

00:13:05.000 And they don't even want to do it, but they do it for you because they want the money.

00:13:08.000 It's not isolated either. 0.99

00:13:10.000 Like I know multiple people that know multiple people that have been paid to take shits. 1.00

00:13:14.000 And my brother was telling me once, like there's dudes that are like, you're going to eat this specific shit. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Then you're going to shit this. 1.00

00:13:21.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:13:21.000 And I'm like, wait, this is like a three day process. 1.00

00:13:23.000 So it's like broccoli.

00:13:25.000 I want broccoli, chicken.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:30.000 Apples?

00:13:32.000 Blueberries?

00:13:32.000 I might go with a McDonald's apple pie.

00:13:34.000 Oh my god.

00:13:35.000 But that's probably part of the power trip of it, right? 0.99

00:13:37.000 Like paying someone to eat a specific diet and then seeing it come out of their butt. 1.00

00:13:42.000 What the hell, man? 0.99

00:13:43.000 We gotta find one of those guys to come on the show because I need to get in that person's head and be like, what is in here? 0.97

00:13:49.000 Not good.

00:13:50.000 Nothing's good.

00:13:51.000 I guarantee that person has a job they hate.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 They have a job they hate, and they probably slave away, and they're probably on Adderall, and they probably make tons of money. 0.99

00:14:01.000 If you were worth a billion dollars, and you could pay someone 60 grand just to shit in a bucket, it's a live version of the internet. 0.99

00:14:09.000 It's like if someone sent you a live leak video of some lady shitting in a bucket, you'd be like, dude, why are you sending me this? 0.99

00:14:16.000 They're like, right? 0.98

00:14:18.000 Don't you get those?

00:14:20.000 Yeah.

00:14:21.000 I mean, I haven't gotten it, but I know what you're talking about.

00:14:24.000 I've been sending people this one.

00:14:25.000 We're going to watch this together. 0.88

00:14:26.000 I've been sending people this one of this dude whacking this guy, this lady whacking this dude in the nuts with a golf club. 1.00

00:14:34.000 Have you seen it? 0.99

00:14:35.000 He's a big, fat guy. 0.97

00:14:36.000 Hold on a second, please. 0.96

00:14:37.000 You're going to freak.

00:14:38.000 This is a rough one.

00:14:40.000 This one's rough. 0.99

00:14:41.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

00:14:42.000 You're like, what are you doing, man? 1.00

00:14:45.000 You're going to die.

00:14:46.000 That's how bad it is.

00:14:47.000 Hold on.

00:14:50.000 Why is it when Instagram opens up sometimes it wants to take you to a blank page?

00:14:55.000 Did you find it already?

00:14:57.000 Here, I gotcha.

00:15:00.000 Alright, I just texted it to you. 0.97

00:15:01.000 This one's so ridiculous. 0.97

00:15:04.000 Nah, you would think, if you're some, uh, sheikh in Dubai, you're some rich dude in Saudi Arabia. 0.97

00:15:11.000 I just found his YouTube channel.

00:15:12.000 What's that? 0.90

00:15:13.000 This guy likes to hurt himself.

00:15:15.000 Oh yeah, he hurt...

00:15:16.000 Oh! 0.60

00:15:18.000 Give me some volume.

00:15:18.000 Give me some volume and redo it.

00:15:22.000 Great.

00:15:23.000 He has good tattoos.

00:15:23.000 He got the Gucci Mane ice cream face tattoo.

00:15:31.000 Watch this.

00:15:42.000 Oh my god!

00:15:45.000 Oh! 0.60

00:15:51.000 That is the worst angle, too.

00:15:53.000 Like, he could have done it a lot of different ways.

00:15:55.000 He, like, really put his nuts on a platter.

00:15:58.000 Bro, he might lose a nut from that.

00:16:00.000 He's lost his nuts.

00:16:01.000 He's got no teeth. 0.89

00:16:03.000 He literally has, like, four teeth on each side of his face.

00:16:06.000 I don't...

00:16:06.000 Whoa!

00:16:07.000 Oh, my God.

00:16:10.000 Oh! 0.60

00:16:13.000 Wow.

00:16:13.000 What is that dude's name?

00:16:14.000 Give that dude credit.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 What brand are the boxer briefs?

00:16:17.000 I'm Gucci Berry.

00:16:17.000 It looks like Ethica.

00:16:19.000 He's Gucci Berry.

00:16:20.000 That's his name.

00:16:20.000 I'm Gucci Berry.

00:16:22.000 I'm Gucci Berry.

00:16:24.000 God bless you.

00:16:24.000 He's got like the Highlander boxer briefs too.

00:16:27.000 God bless you.

00:16:27.000 Look, Colon Crusher.

00:16:29.000 He's got a tattoo of himself on himself.

00:16:31.000 That's why. 1.00

00:16:32.000 That says Colon Crusher and his belly button is his asshole. 1.00

00:16:35.000 So I guess he gets just whacked in the asshole all the time. 1.00

00:16:38.000 That's his move? 1.00

00:16:39.000 I like that every few years there's like a new insane fat man. 0.93

00:16:43.000 Like he replaced the Sausage Castle guy.

00:16:46.000 No, go back to his Instagram page.

00:16:52.000 Wait, there's a link there that said, this guy's obsessed with hurting his jacket.

00:16:56.000 That's how I found him at the same time.

00:16:58.000 Oh my god.

00:17:00.000 Wait, hold it.

00:17:01.000 He gets laid for the first time in 15 years, too.

00:17:05.000 He's doing okay.

00:17:06.000 Well, how many followers does he have?

00:17:09.000 43,000.

00:17:10.000 Oh, look at him.

00:17:11.000 He's getting hit with a golf club and he's getting laid.

00:17:13.000 And he's eating pizza with no teeth.

00:17:17.000 If someone told me- They're out there.

00:17:18.000 People are out there.

00:17:19.000 Oh my god, is he gonna get hurt?

00:17:23.000 Oh, Jesus Christ!

00:17:25.000 Oh my god!

00:17:26.000 It's fake, it's fake video.

00:17:27.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:28.000 Fake video, fake video.

00:17:30.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:17:32.000 You need that guy on.

00:17:33.000 No, I don't.

00:17:33.000 We gotta get in his head.

00:17:35.000 No, no, no.

00:17:35.000 I don't need anything.

00:17:36.000 You're my last guest.

00:17:37.000 I'm done.

00:17:38.000 I quit.

00:17:39.000 I wanna see him work out in the gym. 0.99

00:17:42.000 I'm going to drop this kettlebell on my dickhole! 1.00

00:17:46.000 Put him in the archery shit and then see if you can hit his nuts from like 500 feet away. 1.00

00:17:53.000 I don't think he can do that. 1.00

00:17:54.000 Oh, what is he doing?

00:17:55.000 A rock!

00:17:57.000 He split a log on his nuts.

00:17:58.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:17:59.000 Don't show me this.

00:18:00.000 This is crazy.

00:18:01.000 How is this guy not losing a nut?

00:18:03.000 I know multiple guys have lost nuts from kickboxing.

00:18:08.000 Yeah, I mean, there was always a kid in every school that's like he lost his nut. 0.94

00:18:11.000 I know two dudes who got kicked in the balls and it ruptured their nut. 0.97

00:18:16.000 This is good. 0.99

00:18:17.000 It's good, right?

00:18:18.000 This is good.

00:18:19.000 You definitely get a little head buzz, too.

00:18:21.000 Well, it only has like CBD. It's not psychoactive.

00:18:24.000 You're just high.

00:18:25.000 You're just high in this room.

00:18:26.000 Oh, you think so?

00:18:26.000 Just this room, bro.

00:18:28.000 This room.

00:18:28.000 This room has so much floating around in it.

00:18:32.000 Yeah, it's good.

00:18:33.000 This is Kill Cliff.

00:18:34.000 We gave like...

00:18:36.000 I think there was like seven or eight different samples that we had to go through to get to this.

00:18:40.000 Actually, I probably got the head buzz from the black rifle.

00:18:43.000 That's right.

00:18:44.000 This thing has... 0.89

00:18:45.000 That's got a shit ton of caffeine.

00:18:47.000 23 grams of sugar. 0.88

00:18:49.000 A lot of caffeine.

00:18:50.000 But the caffeine, too.

00:18:50.000 It's a lot of caffeine.

00:18:51.000 They have those big cans.

00:18:52.000 The big cans are 300 milligrams, which is just nuts.

00:18:56.000 That's a lot.

00:18:57.000 I feel like everyone is a three-bev person now. 0.93

00:19:00.000 Like at all times.

00:19:02.000 It used to just be like water, juice, coffee.

00:19:04.000 Now it's like, oh, I got black rifle.

00:19:06.000 I got the CBD. I got water.

00:19:07.000 We're greedy.

00:19:08.000 Our empire's falling.

00:19:09.000 I want coffee, a glass of wine, and a bottle of water.

00:19:12.000 Let's go.

00:19:13.000 Squeeze juice.

00:19:14.000 Whatever I want.

00:19:15.000 I'm going to be here for a while.

00:19:15.000 I want different things to try.

00:19:17.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 We're a failing empire.

00:19:19.000 The empire has definitely failed.

00:19:20.000 If you watch at all levels, especially what's really funny with the Fed thing now is that they want to fight inflation, but then they just threw billions of dollars back into the market.

00:19:32.000 And I'm like, inflation is going to go crazy.

00:19:34.000 I don't see a way where this levels out and becomes something that we can all say is a reasonable system.

00:19:43.000 No. 0.87

00:19:44.000 That's what scares the shit out of me. 0.76

00:19:47.000 I think all the pricing is out of whack. 0.51

00:19:49.000 It's going to stay out of whack because the economy just wants to keep going and it won't stop.

00:19:54.000 That's what's wild about growth.

00:19:57.000 Constant, never-ending growth.

00:20:01.000 Just bigger, bigger.

00:20:02.000 It's kind of wild that all corporations operate on that mentality.

00:20:06.000 If you're a shareholder, For whatever company it is, a really successful company like Apple, you want them to do better next quarter.

00:20:15.000 Like, hey, you guys should be doing better.

00:20:16.000 You have to do better. 0.99

00:20:18.000 This company's worth fucking eight trillion dollars. 0.99

00:20:21.000 We're like, come on, guys. 1.00

00:20:24.000 I need these fucking prices to come up. 0.99

00:20:26.000 People are playing this weird gambling game with your value and your popularity. 0.99

00:20:31.000 It's very strange that we all think that everything should keep growing and grow forever.

00:20:38.000 It's just, I think, human self-interest and human nature to, like, want to compete and want to grow and want to get better.

00:20:45.000 But I'm waiting for the next, like, great economist because I do feel like everything is still just like Adam Smith Wealth of Nations.

00:20:53.000 And it's like there's been Marxism, there's been other things, but nothing has topped that guy's, like, idea for the global economy.

00:21:03.000 And I think somebody has to come around that is...

00:21:07.000 Not anti-growth, but really looking at nature, looking at resources, looking at war.

00:21:14.000 What is the reasonable amount of growth we can have?

00:21:17.000 Just working out, right? 0.99

00:21:18.000 You have the trainers that are just like, fucking do 70 exercises and fucking all these reps and yada yada. 0.99

00:21:25.000 But I actually do better with the trainers that are like, hey, let's work hard for 45 minutes. 0.99

00:21:30.000 Rest, recovery, focus on recovery.

00:21:33.000 How much can you do?

00:21:34.000 How much can you push your body?

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 I think that's the type of guy we need, or girl, to have a new philosophy for the global economy.

00:21:42.000 The problem is relying on any one person is a crazy idea.

00:21:47.000 Yeah, not relying, but to have the idea.

00:21:50.000 To have a vision.

00:21:52.000 That would be nice, but I feel like one of the problems with our system is that we're always looking for a leader.

00:22:01.000 So this person comes in, They're a president for four years, and then they have to try again, and then they get it for eight years.

00:22:07.000 So when they come in, they come to the most important job in the world, but they're new.

00:22:11.000 They're noobs.

00:22:12.000 You know, I mean, you've done a lot of different things, right?

00:22:15.000 And you could speak to this.

00:22:17.000 When you first start doing a thing, you kind of got to figure it out.

00:22:21.000 But if it's the most important job in the world with international consequences, and nuclear war rides on it, and the economy rides on it, and pandemic response, and international relations at a porous border, and you just come into the job new?

00:22:37.000 Yeah, you just come in.

00:22:40.000 As soon as you come in, they're already thinking about re-election.

00:22:42.000 Yeah, immediately.

00:22:44.000 You think he'll run in 2024?

00:22:48.000 Oh, Sleepy Joe?

00:22:49.000 No, I mean, that's what they said to you.

00:22:50.000 Yeah, yeah, no, exactly, yeah. 0.97

00:22:51.000 But like, yeah, I really think the re-electing of people, we need longer terms, but then also, I wouldn't sign up for that until we really get a hold of the, like, the S-PAC shit, and the, like, gerrymandering, 0.93

00:23:07.000 because the whole system's just really broken right now. 0.98

00:23:10.000 Systems are very broken.

00:23:12.000 They need to figure out a way to get money out of it, and it's too late.

00:23:15.000 Because you can't get money out of it.

00:23:17.000 Because money is the whole thing.

00:23:18.000 It's like the special interest groups and all the donors.

00:23:21.000 It's like there's so much money moving around. 0.97

00:23:23.000 And then when people leave office, they get these fucking cushy speaking gigs. 0.95

00:23:28.000 Eddie, get in on some of that money. 0.99

00:23:30.000 Obama trading being the president for being an influencer is the most comedic shit ever. 0.99

00:23:36.000 I'm like, who the fuck needs your playlist? 1.00

00:23:38.000 I loved Obama. 0.99

00:23:40.000 I was the first one to print Obama t-shirts and support him.

00:23:44.000 Once he was in office, I feel like he didn't come through on a lot of the things.

00:23:49.000 He didn't come through on a lot of things, but I think Putin spoke to that.

00:23:52.000 Putin spoke to these guys who all have these ideas until they get into office, and then the real people who run the country have a conversation with them.

00:23:58.000 He goes, they come in suits like mine, but with black ties, and they tell them.

00:24:03.000 You're not doing anything.

00:24:05.000 And I think that's happened to every single president, except Trump actually fought back against the intelligence agencies, went to war with them, which is very crazy.

00:24:16.000 That was crazy.

00:24:17.000 That's so crazy that he did that.

00:24:19.000 But as far as a representative of the United States, who better than Obama?

00:24:24.000 He was the best of all time.

00:24:25.000 Yeah, the best.

00:24:25.000 The best of all time.

00:24:26.000 He's the the most educated and eloquent and even keeled and he was a Statesman and the way he spoke inspired confidence that Truly the wisest amongst us is the king.

00:24:39.000 That's what we want And then that's what you realize is like what you're voting for as president is not actually a get-it-done person It's a figurehead just like the Queen of England, you know, it would be nice if they're both Yeah, but the thing is like I don't think they get to be I don't think they'll ever tell the truth,

00:24:57.000 but I bet Obama as a lawyer in Chicago When he gets into the office There's probably like a real part of him that didn't know how it was all behind the scenes I don't think they let anybody know until you get in there.

00:25:11.000 I don't think it's why would they yeah, why would they I think they explained to you I think they sit you down and And show you some fucking horrific facts about the world and show you what we're trying to stop and what's currently going on all over the place.

00:25:26.000 And here's what happens if this goes down.

00:25:28.000 Here's what happens if that goes down.

00:25:29.000 We have to be careful of this.

00:25:31.000 We have people in here.

00:25:32.000 We have people that infiltrated this group.

00:25:34.000 I mean, somebody wrote this on Twitter.

00:25:37.000 There's more FBI informants in the Proud Boys than there are Proud Boys.

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:43.000 Yo, I actually, you know, I choose to live in America.

00:25:47.000 I really prefer this because since I saw it, I lived for a year in Taiwan during the pandemic.

00:25:51.000 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 And by the end of my stay there, I was like, I really, really, I prefer to live in America.

00:25:58.000 What was the major difference?

00:25:59.000 The major difference to me was that socially, just the way you interact socially with your lifestyle in Asia, it's significantly more conservative than the West, right?

00:26:13.000 Like, there's so much more groupthink, there's so much more peer pressure.

00:26:18.000 Everybody rolls in groups and it's just like, you're not really an individual even within the groups.

00:26:24.000 And then people want you to subscribe to this.

00:26:28.000 You can't hang out with everybody.

00:26:29.000 You've got to be part of this group or that group.

00:26:32.000 So that's a cultural thing.

00:26:34.000 I think it was very cultural.

00:26:36.000 And I also just think the EQ in Asia is very rule-based when it comes to emotional intelligence.

00:26:44.000 Like, we have very, very specific manners.

00:26:47.000 Like, the youngest person is gonna pour tea.

00:26:49.000 Your father eats first. 0.94

00:26:51.000 Like, even in language, something very simple, which is, if your mother's mom, you just be like, that's grandma.

00:26:59.000 In ours, the name for your mother's mom is like Lolo.

00:27:04.000 The name for your father's mom is Nai Nai.

00:27:06.000 It's very specific and there's a hierarchy.

00:27:09.000 Like your father's mom is higher, your mother's mom is lower. 0.71

00:27:13.000 And it's just to me, I'm like, yo, this is too much critical analysis of like stature.

00:27:20.000 And then your interactions with people are so much based on your standing in society versus theirs.

00:27:26.000 And everybody acts in accordance with this kind of like agreed upon status.

00:27:33.000 It's borderline caste system-y.

00:27:35.000 And then when there isn't like racial diversity either there, it's all Asian people. 0.99

00:27:41.000 I was just like, this is a little too cloying for me.

00:27:45.000 But, when I look at the government, like China as a government out there, and I was living in Taiwan, spent a lot of time in China, my brother still lives in China, but the Chinese government to me is much more effective I think it's better than the American government.

00:28:02.000 If it wants to get something done, China's going to have it done in 24 hours. 0.99

00:28:06.000 The building may fall apart, but it'll be done.

00:28:10.000 But they can get things done.

00:28:15.000 They're not a benevolent country.

00:28:17.000 No country is benevolent.

00:28:18.000 A business, right?

00:28:19.000 They're competing for citizens. 0.98

00:28:21.000 But their type of feudalism and like colonialism compared to American colonialism, I think I would prefer if I was the country being shitted on. 0.96

00:28:32.000 Like America will take you over.

00:28:36.000 It will, you know, they'll send the CIA and they'll do all those things we've seen in all the countries. 0.98

00:28:41.000 But China, they'll invest and then own you, which also sucks. 0.99

00:28:46.000 It's its own poison. 0.99

00:28:47.000 Pretty clever.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, it's clever.

00:28:48.000 And I just think there's always going to be a new government and a new better deal.

00:28:53.000 And like...

00:28:54.000 I think China's the better deal right now for a developing continent like Africa or Latin America.

00:29:01.000 You probably get better terms with China.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, they'll give you a loan that you can't pay off as opposed to sending the military.

00:29:08.000 Exactly.

00:29:08.000 It's like a way cleaner transaction.

00:29:10.000 Yeah, America's like terrestrial, like cable television, television.

00:29:15.000 China's like we're Netflix. 1.00

00:29:16.000 Yeah, but then it's gonna come around you got you got no royalties you get You know people are gonna strike they're gonna fuck you. 1.00

00:29:23.000 It's just it's a new way of fucking you fucking you in the ear interesting. 0.99

00:29:26.000 Yeah It's interesting like no one in America ever wants to think that there's another option like America's number one. 0.99

00:29:35.000 We're the fucking best It's like American exceptionalism like that idea is it's really fun People enjoy doing it. 0.97

00:29:41.000 It's a good time to say, we're America and we fucking rule. 0.99

00:29:46.000 Those are the people ruining it because I love America, but we got to look at ourselves and get better. 0.99

00:29:51.000 You can't just stand still.

00:29:53.000 We also have multiple problems. 1.00

00:29:57.000 There's this idea that it's okay to just send fucking troops all over the place and occupy these places, but it's not okay if they fuck with us. 0.99

00:30:05.000 It's like kind of a funny way of looking at things. 0.99

00:30:08.000 If you just looked at us as like an entity, you weren't American, you weren't even human, just like, what's going on over here?

00:30:16.000 Oh, this one thing, like, sends these metal things all over the place and dominates these areas, but they all claim this one spot that's nowhere near the area that they're at.

00:30:26.000 Like, what are they doing?

00:30:27.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 They're a weird sort of expanded empire.

00:30:31.000 War is a very outdated method of, like, doing business.

00:30:35.000 Right.

00:30:36.000 That's how I feel, because war is a business.

00:30:38.000 They used to use cannons. 0.99

00:30:40.000 And then they used to use rifles and tanks, and now they're like, you know what, why don't we just use them fucking bank accounts? 0.99

00:30:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:30:47.000 China's the Me Too response. 0.95

00:30:49.000 It's like ally.

00:30:49.000 We're your ally.

00:30:51.000 Allyship.

00:30:52.000 Africa, I'm your ally.

00:30:53.000 Greece, I'm your ally.

00:30:55.000 But in the end, you just work for China. 0.72

00:30:57.000 Also, they have a grip on people right now that I think we should all be very careful that we don't allow to happen here.

00:31:04.000 And the grip on people is a social credit score system.

00:31:07.000 If they develop a social credit score system in America and digital currency, you're going to have a real problem.

00:31:12.000 Because the people that are in control of that system are going to be the ones that tell you what to do and they're going to dictate life on their own terms and what's beneficial to them and the ruling class, the people that are in control. 0.93

00:31:24.000 And that's a scary, twisted thing that could really happen, especially with all these banks collapsing and all those fucking FTX fucking shenanigans with crypto. 0.95

00:31:36.000 That would be very bad. 0.97

00:31:37.000 Can you explain?

00:31:38.000 I actually, I don't think I'm grasping the social, like you mean like rating us socially.

00:31:42.000 So they talked about connecting it to a vaccine passport, right?

00:31:46.000 That was banded about and people pushed back against that very hard.

00:31:49.000 And the idea would be that if you didn't do this thing, you would not get a passport that would allow you to go places.

00:31:57.000 And you could eventually roll that into a credit score system. 0.96

00:32:03.000 And say, I go through your tweets, and like, Eddie tweets a lot of bad shit about this. 0.98

00:32:09.000 I don't like what Eddie's feelings are about pharmaceutical drug companies being responsible for the opioid crisis. 0.98

00:32:15.000 This makes me uncomfortable.

00:32:17.000 That he wants to get really political about Rand Paul grilling Dr. Fauci about gain-of-function research. 0.99

00:32:24.000 Who the fuck is this Eddie Wong guy? 0.98

00:32:25.000 What is he doing? 0.99

00:32:26.000 Why is he doing that?

00:32:28.000 Give him a strike against his social credit score system.

00:32:30.000 And then you go to travel, you go to the airport, try to buy a ticket online.

00:32:36.000 I'm sorry you can't buy a ticket.

00:32:37.000 You have a low credit score system.

00:32:39.000 Or even getting a job.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, or getting a job.

00:32:42.000 I mean, in some ways, we have a version of that now, right?

00:32:46.000 Like, if you're a felon, you can't get a job.

00:32:48.000 That's the worst credit score system that we have.

00:32:50.000 Like, you were a violent felon, you can't get a job.

00:32:53.000 It's hard.

00:32:53.000 Or you can't own a gun, or you can't vote.

00:32:56.000 Yeah.

00:32:57.000 So we do have a version of that now, that we reserve for people that we incarcerate.

00:33:03.000 I mean, it's eventually going to happen. 0.58

00:33:06.000 But yeah, in a way, too, it's just you can look at people's social media and I guess you make your own judgment, but a government score would be fucking crazy.

00:33:16.000 I think it's possible, man.

00:33:17.000 I think that's what China does. 0.98

00:33:19.000 And China does have a system set up where...

00:33:22.000 If someone's politically active, if they do something, if they're involved in some protests or something like that, they'll find themselves in a position where they can't travel.

00:33:30.000 It's true.

00:33:32.000 That's where I think China has to budge is their crackdowns on society.

00:33:40.000 It's just too heavy-handed and archaic.

00:33:42.000 They're not going to budge.

00:33:43.000 It's like beating your children.

00:33:44.000 Nobody budges.

00:33:45.000 Nobody goes backwards.

00:33:46.000 But they did budge.

00:33:47.000 Really? 1.00

00:33:47.000 They lifted the COVID shit. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Remember when people started protesting? 0.99

00:33:50.000 Oh, but they had to do that.

00:33:51.000 They had to do that.

00:33:52.000 Because they were falling apart.

00:33:55.000 What they were trying to do is try zero COVID. You can't really do that.

00:34:00.000 It's a respiratory virus.

00:34:01.000 They never really contain respiratory viruses.

00:34:04.000 Unless you're completely isolated, you're going to catch it.

00:34:07.000 It's wild how it works.

00:34:09.000 I mean, they're really fascinating viruses.

00:34:12.000 You know, I spent so much time over the last three years thinking about this.

00:34:17.000 How bizarre it is that we live with these little alien life forms that need hosts.

00:34:23.000 They need human hosts in order to survive.

00:34:26.000 And they travel from person to person and along the way they encounter some antibodies.

00:34:31.000 They encounter vaccine antibodies and they adjust and adapt and become more widespread but a little softer.

00:34:40.000 Just a little easier to tolerate.

00:34:42.000 So that way it spreads even more.

00:34:43.000 It's really crazy that we coexist with these weird biological things like viruses.

00:34:51.000 It's very strange.

00:34:52.000 I just think life for people gets better in these really critical opportunistic moments when There's something that's, like, bad for business and good for people, and you have a leader who's willing to,

00:35:08.000 like, bring the business to its knees and negotiate new terms.

00:35:12.000 Like, do you remember in the pandemic when LeBron walked out of a basketball game?

00:35:15.000 Oh, yeah, I would love something.

00:35:17.000 Thank you.

00:35:18.000 What did he do?

00:35:19.000 He walked out of a basketball game?

00:35:20.000 Yeah, they walked.

00:35:21.000 I think it was, like, they were playing the Bucs, and it was, like, LeBron walked out of the game, and they didn't want to play.

00:35:29.000 And the players were gonna boycott the NBA. And instead of just being like, yo, we're gonna negotiate all the terms, we're gonna make it better for players, and specifically black athletes, Obama called him and then they conceded and compromised and like the compromise was like we're gonna let you write Black Lives Matter on the back of the jersey.

00:35:50.000 We're gonna let you write hope or like justice or whatever you want and it really became an aesthetic solution instead of like an economic one where I really felt LeBron had a moment there and Obama had a moment there where it's like yo you have the NBA on its knees you have to get the best deal you can right now.

00:36:12.000 I'm not aware of that.

00:36:14.000 I don't pay attention enough.

00:36:15.000 I'll send you some stuff later.

00:36:17.000 It was a cool moment.

00:36:18.000 Just like how college athletes took a moment in that era and they were like, we want to be paid to play at college.

00:36:24.000 Right. 0.75

00:36:25.000 At a certain point in time, that was getting a little ridiculous.

00:36:28.000 When you found out how much money the colleges were making for these games and how much they were charging for tickets.

00:36:34.000 Sure. 0.99

00:36:35.000 And then they were, like, fucking these kids' lives over. 0.99

00:36:38.000 If they gave them a Corvette or something like that, they got busted. 0.99

00:36:40.000 Oh, he's got an apartment.

00:36:41.000 That's it.

00:36:42.000 It's over.

00:36:42.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 And that was a moment where it was like, it was good for business to pay them.

00:36:46.000 They're going to pay the kids anyway. 1.00

00:36:48.000 Cut the shit. 1.00

00:36:49.000 Let's just let you pay them. 1.00

00:36:50.000 Well, I think all those, like, Pat McAfee guys and all those sports radio talk guys, they harped on that enough, I think.

00:36:56.000 He was one of the ones that talked about that, right? 1.00

00:36:59.000 The people that were aware of the actual money that's involved, you know, it's so substantial that to deny it from these kids or to make it so they can't make any money at all, fuck you! 1.00

00:37:09.000 Says who? 1.00

00:37:10.000 They're old enough to get jobs!

00:37:11.000 Yeah, and there was like a big scandal, I believe, with Adidas and Louisville.

00:37:15.000 And I think it just became a thing where Adidas and everyone was just like, look, we gotta pay these kids.

00:37:20.000 Somebody's gotta pay them.

00:37:21.000 How much do they get paid?

00:37:22.000 They should get rich.

00:37:23.000 They shouldn't just get paid.

00:37:24.000 They should really get rich or they're getting ripped off.

00:37:27.000 So if they don't pay them, that's one thing.

00:37:29.000 But if they pay them and they don't get rich, well, who's getting rich?

00:37:32.000 Where's the money going?

00:37:33.000 You are literally only selling football.

00:37:35.000 Oh, you're going to give them an education.

00:37:37.000 Oh, what a great deal.

00:37:39.000 Meanwhile, what percentage of them blow their knees out in those four years? 0.89

00:37:43.000 I mean, the guy, the safety for the bills almost died.

00:37:48.000 Like, you could die playing this sport.

00:37:50.000 A hundred percent. 0.97

00:37:51.000 And you're playing this sport with young super athletes who are fucking hungry to try to make it into the NFL. So they're going for it. 0.83

00:37:59.000 They're trying to put on a show. 1.00

00:38:00.000 They're trying to win fucking games because if they do win, they're picturing buying their mother a house. 1.00

00:38:05.000 They're picturing wearing diamonds and fucking horsing up the champagne bottle at the club. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Wow! 1.00

00:38:11.000 They just fucking go for it, and if you blow your knee out, man, then you get a job as a security guard, and your life is dreary and dull. 0.99

00:38:19.000 You're an enterprise renter car. 1.00

00:38:21.000 Fuck! 1.00

00:38:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:22.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:38:23.000 And it just, it really, that shit used to piss me off, too, because it was the most propagandistic thing, but this is what's so funny about the public. 1.00

00:38:31.000 Your leaders will say something propagandistic like, an education is priceless. 0.99

00:38:35.000 And you just, you go, oh yeah.

00:38:37.000 I'm like, no, bro, look it up in U.S. News.

00:38:39.000 The price of the education is right there.

00:38:42.000 $20,000, $30,000, it's peanuts.

00:38:44.000 Well, not only that, but what are we talking about?

00:38:47.000 We're talking about education.

00:38:48.000 Like, everybody thinks that...

00:38:51.000 Education means formal education that leads to a job, which is education.

00:38:56.000 But there's also education that's available literally to anybody who wants it.

00:39:01.000 Like you can find out pretty much anything about almost anything if you want to do the research online or do your searching.

00:39:09.000 People don't like that term, do the research.

00:39:10.000 Search online.

00:39:12.000 Search online.

00:39:13.000 We can't say that now?

00:39:13.000 Well, because they're saying it in terms of you don't really know what you're researching.

00:39:20.000 If you're reading scientific papers, you don't understand how to interpret them.

00:39:23.000 You don't understand how to explain that information.

00:39:26.000 And I get what they're saying.

00:39:27.000 Say if you want to have a history of metallurgy.

00:39:32.000 And sword making, right?

00:39:34.000 If that's who you're interested in.

00:39:35.000 Like, you don't have to go to college for that.

00:39:36.000 You can study online the history of metallurgy and sword making and there's fucking hours and hours and hours and hours of papers and footage and all this different shit that talks about how people, you know, figured out how to make alloys and when, 0.89

00:39:54.000 like, how the samurais made their swords. 0.97

00:39:56.000 Like, you could learn a Shitload without going anywhere, which is pretty wild. 0.91

00:40:01.000 We are so used to it.

00:40:03.000 We don't even consider it as a resource.

00:40:05.000 But if we were living, it's 2023, if we were just living in 2000, just 2000, 23 years ago, that'd be nuts.

00:40:13.000 You can get all this online.

00:40:15.000 You can learn all these things.

00:40:16.000 If it was 20 years before that, impossible.

00:40:19.000 20 years before that, you had to go to university.

00:40:21.000 So inside of 40 years, 35 years, We've created a completely new world where virtually, if you look at the right places and you search hard enough in your studios, you can learn about almost anything.

00:40:36.000 Almost anything.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, I think it's really, for me, I didn't learn anything in school that I could not learn on my own, but the one function of school that really helped me personally and is different for everyone, there were teachers that believed in me And, like, just talk to me because I had so many mental, 0.96

00:40:55.000 emotional issues from, like, my home shit.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, so mentors. 0.99

00:40:59.000 Mentors.

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:00.000 Mentors, that's great in every walk of life, I think.

00:41:03.000 That's it. 0.98

00:41:04.000 All I needed and all that I got from school was people who fucking believed in me and were like, you're not garbage. 0.98

00:41:10.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:41:11.000 That's it.

00:41:11.000 And it changed my life, but, like, would I tell someone, like, rely on school?

00:41:18.000 No.

00:41:18.000 Like, rely on your brain.

00:41:20.000 Rely on human adaptability.

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 Like, use experience.

00:41:24.000 School, too, though.

00:41:25.000 You know, school's an amazing resource.

00:41:27.000 If you can go to school, going to school will be great for you in multiple ways.

00:41:33.000 First of all, it'll be great for you because you're around a bunch of people that are also going to school.

00:41:37.000 And they're all people your age, and they're all experiencing this weirdness of graduating from high school, and you're like, wow, this is nuts.

00:41:42.000 And what do we all want to do?

00:41:44.000 I don't know what to do.

00:41:45.000 And then you get to talk to people.

00:41:47.000 Oftentimes, some of the best lessons are from very bitter older people.

00:41:51.000 You get real good lessons.

00:41:52.000 Yeah.

00:41:53.000 Because you get lessons they didn't intend to give you.

00:41:56.000 Yeah.

00:41:56.000 They get lessons by their very existence.

00:41:58.000 Yeah.

00:41:58.000 And you'll realize, oh, whatever this guy did, don't do that.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, I had the saltiest, cynical, creative writing teacher named Mr. Richmond, and he just looked like an angry Santa Claus.

00:42:09.000 This dude was the best. 0.98

00:42:10.000 Because he would just accidentally mumble shit, and I was like, yo, I never thought about it that way. 0.97

00:42:16.000 Do you mind if we smoke more weed? 0.98

00:42:19.000 Yeah, we smoke more weed.

00:42:21.000 I had to Google, I was like, can you travel to Texas with weed?

00:42:24.000 And they were like, no.

00:42:25.000 So I didn't travel with it.

00:42:28.000 It's in a funky place here, legally.

00:42:31.000 You know, it needs to be legally federally.

00:42:33.000 It's legal federally. 0.97

00:42:35.000 It's fucking crazy that we're still doing this. 0.97

00:42:37.000 Yeah, man. 0.98

00:42:37.000 The fact that it's 2023, you could drink whiskey, drink tequila, party on, I got a backache, here's some oxys. 0.98

00:42:46.000 But if you have marijuana, like, that's the one?

00:42:49.000 Yeah.

00:42:49.000 That's the one that we're saying stop, too?

00:42:50.000 Yeah.

00:42:51.000 I need to be able to, like, travel here, walk to a CVS, buy weed, and then go jerk off on the couch at the Four Seasons.

00:42:58.000 You know, like, I wasn't able to do that last night.

00:43:01.000 Sounds like a solid plan.

00:43:01.000 Yeah.

00:43:02.000 I have to go walk a loop around a river.

00:43:04.000 That's a solid plan.

00:43:05.000 Yeah, and you gotta take a chance if you buy some illegal weed.

00:43:08.000 It's unfortunate. 1.00

00:43:09.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:43:10.000 You know, Jesse Ventura was actually just testifying. 1.00

00:43:14.000 I think it was in Michigan.

00:43:16.000 I think Michigan is...

00:43:18.000 Oh, Minnesota.

00:43:18.000 Excuse me.

00:43:19.000 I'm good.

00:43:19.000 Minnesota is...

00:43:23.000 They're trying to see whether or not they're gonna make marijuana legal, and I think it's already legal right now for medical reasons, and his wife qualifies for that, and he gives a speech about it.

00:43:34.000 It's a very impassioned speech about how his wife was having these horrible seizures, and the only thing that stopped them, they tried multiple medications, the only thing that stopped it was cannabis.

00:43:45.000 So they're putting cannabis oil drops under her tongue, and she's just stopped having seizures.

00:43:49.000 She's never had them since.

00:43:51.000 But about how expensive it is.

00:43:53.000 It's like $600 a month just for the cost of buying it in Minnesota from a pharmacy, I guess, a marijuana pharmacy.

00:44:02.000 But it shouldn't be that much.

00:44:03.000 But that's also what I hate about the weed business now.

00:44:06.000 It got so much more expensive.

00:44:09.000 I mean, I'm not mad at the taxes.

00:44:11.000 Because if we generate taxes... 0.99

00:44:12.000 Well, actually, fucking... 0.99

00:44:14.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:44:15.000 That's a deep conversation.

00:44:16.000 Those taxes, I'm not mad at.

00:44:18.000 Because if you look at just the bargain that is weed...

00:44:21.000 Here's my perspective.

00:44:23.000 Like I think in Colorado at one point in time they had a 39% tax on weed.

00:44:28.000 Here's why I think that's good.

00:44:29.000 Because one, wouldn't it be great if weed, since it doesn't cost that much money anyway, like if you go to drink, if you have an alcoholic beverage, you're paying 20 bucks, you're paying more than 20 bucks, you're having two, three, it's like 60 bucks. 0.98

00:44:43.000 60 bucks worth of weed will put you on the fucking moon. 0.97

00:44:46.000 For a week. 1.00

00:44:48.000 For a fucking week, I use a bong, like for a week. 1.00

00:44:51.000 For a week! 1.00

00:44:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:52.000 It will put you on the fucking moon. 0.99

00:44:53.000 So it's not hurting you to give that 39%. 0.97

00:44:57.000 It's like if something costs, if it's a dollar and 39 cents of it goes to tax, If that tax goes straight to the education system, wouldn't that be better for everybody?

00:45:07.000 If that tax goes straight to fixing the city streets, wouldn't that be better for everybody?

00:45:12.000 Like, that kind of a sales tax I can get behind.

00:45:14.000 Yeah.

00:45:15.000 Like, let's give an incentive to make it legal. 0.95

00:45:17.000 Let's tax the shit out of it. 0.92

00:45:19.000 I definitely agree. 0.97

00:45:20.000 I'm down with the marijuana tax.

00:45:23.000 But it's just so expensive out of a store.

00:45:26.000 And also, I was like, yo, what about all these dudes that have been selling us weed and other stuff for so long?

00:45:31.000 Yeah, we're putting them out of work?

00:45:32.000 Yeah, like, yo, they should be grandfathered in.

00:45:35.000 They should be grandfathered in. 1.00

00:45:35.000 Like, you're veterans. 1.00

00:45:36.000 They should be grandfathered in. 1.00

00:45:37.000 You're legends in the game.

00:45:39.000 Yeah.

00:45:39.000 Like, dudes who lied about when they moved to Canada during the Vietnam War.

00:45:43.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:45:44.000 We should just do, like, a voting ballot across America and be like, alright, write in the names of the fucking weed legends that should have, like, jobs in this fucking giant economy now. 0.99

00:45:55.000 Write your man's name in there. 0.98

00:45:56.000 Yeah, but the problem is, if those weed guys did that, here's the problem.

00:46:00.000 Like, you've been selling weed for how long illegally are you admitting to?

00:46:03.000 And then the IRS comes after you.

00:46:06.000 And the IRS goes, uh, where's the money?

00:46:08.000 Yeah, see, we need to protect them from that.

00:46:10.000 This needs to be just, like, Weed Olympics.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, but the IRS is not gonna protect you.

00:46:13.000 Especially if you're now currently in the weed business, which means you're gonna be making real, like, taxable money.

00:46:19.000 Yeah.

00:46:19.000 But no, that's what I'm saying.

00:46:21.000 Grandfather the men, wipe away the old shit, and just be like, yo, let these legends live. 0.99

00:46:26.000 You know, cause, like, I don't like seeing the local weed dude, like, not be able to compete anymore either. 0.99

00:46:32.000 No, I don't like seeing that either. 0.97

00:46:34.000 But then again, he also not going to sit there and roll every fucking joint and put them in a six pack for you. 0.97

00:46:39.000 That's true too. 0.99

00:46:41.000 That's true too.

00:46:42.000 That's what's cool about the store.

00:46:43.000 That's what's good about the store.

00:46:44.000 And then they have like, they have edibles that are actually measured.

00:46:48.000 They measured the edibles.

00:46:49.000 And some of these stores too, they give you free sodas and popsicles and candy on the way out.

00:46:55.000 I came for weed, I got diabetes.

00:46:58.000 That's terrible.

00:47:00.000 They should give you a bottle of water and a piece of fruit.

00:47:02.000 Have you gotten CBD for your dog?

00:47:05.000 Yes.

00:47:06.000 Yeah, my dog loves a CBD treat.

00:47:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:09.000 There's a bunch of good companies to do that.

00:47:11.000 I think CBDMD has it for dogs, too.

00:47:13.000 Yeah.

00:47:14.000 I accidentally took some of their dog oil.

00:47:16.000 I didn't realize it was for pets oil.

00:47:18.000 It turns out it's like the same thing, or at least close to it.

00:47:22.000 It didn't taste bad.

00:47:22.000 It was like peanut butter flavored.

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 I look at my dog's, like, raw meat.

00:47:26.000 Illegal activities.

00:47:28.000 Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing drugs, must be included in your income on Schedule 1. Imagine what a fucking chess move the government has played. 0.99

00:47:39.000 Like, they go, yeah, you got two options. 1.00

00:47:42.000 Either you admit you're selling drugs, or we'll get you for tax evasion.

00:47:47.000 So just...

00:47:48.000 It's okay.

00:47:49.000 Just write there if you're doing anything illegal.

00:47:51.000 Yeah, just write that in.

00:47:53.000 Write that in there. 1.00

00:47:55.000 We have you in a binding legal document, you fucking dunce. 1.00

00:47:59.000 You fucking dunce. 1.00

00:48:03.000 It's a dirty game they play. 1.00

00:48:05.000 It's like, you know, here's the thing.

00:48:07.000 It's not like we're living in some devout religious sect where no drugs are allowed.

00:48:13.000 This is not what's happening in this country.

00:48:15.000 But to have grown adults Tell other grown adults, like, you can't do that, Eddie.

00:48:21.000 I don't like when you get high.

00:48:23.000 I don't like you eating mushrooms.

00:48:24.000 I don't like you doing any of these things.

00:48:25.000 So you can't do it.

00:48:26.000 If you do do it, I'm going to put you in jail.

00:48:29.000 It's 2023. We know that's dumb. 1.00

00:48:31.000 That doesn't make any sense. 1.00

00:48:32.000 That's crazy.

00:48:33.000 Yeah, weed and mushrooms, like, as long as the mushrooms is dosed, cool!

00:48:38.000 Like, it's kind of hard to hurt yourself on mushrooms.

00:48:44.000 Well, actually, I don't know about that.

00:48:47.000 I mean, if you really went hard.

00:48:48.000 You could go crazy.

00:48:51.000 Well, someone will. 1.00

00:48:52.000 That golf gub in the asshole guy, that guy's going to go hard. 1.00

00:48:55.000 Someone in Florida is going to die on mushrooms, but that's because they're from Florida. 1.00

00:49:00.000 They're going to get eaten by a snake.

00:49:01.000 They're going to go to the snake. 1.00

00:49:03.000 They're going to try to talk to the snake, and the snake's going to wrap its fucking body around them and crush them. 1.00

00:49:07.000 So would you legalize shrooms? 1.00

00:49:08.000 I would still legalize shrooms and just like dose the shit and be like, don't go crazy. 0.99

00:49:12.000 Frying pans are legal too. 1.00

00:49:14.000 You can cook on them or you could just slam yourself in the face if you're fucking nuts. 1.00

00:49:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:18.000 Like, all things, we can't make everything safe.

00:49:21.000 It's not, everything isn't safe.

00:49:22.000 I mean, gas stoves are gonna kill us. 1.00

00:49:24.000 Right. 1.00

00:49:24.000 That shit's crazy. 1.00

00:49:25.000 Yeah, boxing's not safe. 1.00

00:49:26.000 You like boxing.

00:49:27.000 I love boxing.

00:49:27.000 Jiu-jitsu's not safe.

00:49:28.000 Driving your car's not safe.

00:49:30.000 I mean, it's safe, but it's not completely safe.

00:49:33.000 So I think weed and shrooms, I'm like, legalize.

00:49:37.000 Well, here's the other option.

00:49:39.000 You have grown adults that tell other grown adults they can't have an experience that's been very beneficial to those grown adults.

00:49:45.000 There's grown adults that have taken it, that have gotten over cigarettes, they've gotten over PTSD, they've changed their perspective on life.

00:49:53.000 It's highly, highly beneficial.

00:49:55.000 And then there's other people that haven't experienced it at all, and they want to maintain this power over these substances and tell you that if you do it or if you sell it, if you have it, They'll put you in jail.

00:50:08.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:09.000 It's dumb. 0.99

00:50:10.000 And when you meet those... 0.99

00:50:11.000 There are a few people where it's like you meet someone in their 40s and they're like, I've never done weed.

00:50:15.000 I've never done shootings.

00:50:16.000 I've never done drugs.

00:50:17.000 And I'm just like, interest.

00:50:20.000 That's interesting and kind of strange to me.

00:50:23.000 It makes sense if you just held fast from high school.

00:50:26.000 You felt like, listen, this is not for me.

00:50:27.000 I see where this goes.

00:50:29.000 I see where these people go.

00:50:30.000 I was on that kind of a path until I was like 30. Yeah.

00:50:35.000 I mean, I was on this path that marijuana was for losers. 0.98

00:50:39.000 It would kill your ambition. 0.99

00:50:40.000 Oh, word?

00:50:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:42.000 Interesting.

00:50:43.000 You see, I always thought it was like a lack of curiosity.

00:50:46.000 I'm like, you're not curious, you know?

00:50:49.000 Well, I had the wrong impression of it.

00:50:52.000 My impression of it was based on what I felt about people who did it when I was young.

00:50:57.000 Whereas they all just wanted to smoke pot and listen to Pink Floyd, which is great and everything, but they weren't getting anything done.

00:51:03.000 And I felt like I didn't want anything that was going to slow me down.

00:51:08.000 And so I looked at it as a sedative.

00:51:11.000 And it wasn't until I became friends with Eddie Bravo that he got me high and we started talking about what it does for me.

00:51:19.000 He was telling me...

00:51:20.000 That it helps him with his music.

00:51:22.000 It helps him be creative.

00:51:23.000 It helps with his jiu-jitsu.

00:51:25.000 I was like, what?

00:51:25.000 I was like, weed?

00:51:26.000 I was like, weed makes you dumb. 1.00

00:51:27.000 It doesn't make you dumb? 1.00

00:51:29.000 And he and I got high that day. 0.99

00:51:31.000 And I was like, oh, I had an ice cream sundae.

00:51:33.000 And I remember going, this is the most amazing thing I've ever eaten in my life.

00:51:37.000 How did I not know that it tastes like this?

00:51:38.000 Yeah.

00:51:39.000 All these years I've been thinking ice cream sundae tastes like a sober ice cream sundae.

00:51:44.000 That's boring.

00:51:45.000 A high ice cream sundae is a visual, psychedelic, whole body experience.

00:51:52.000 You're like, whoa, look at that thing.

00:51:54.000 Yeah.

00:51:55.000 The best way to explain it, if there's anyone left on your audience that has not smoked weed, it allows you to indulge in your senses.

00:52:04.000 That's it. 0.99

00:52:04.000 You just feel shit more and deeper and you block other shit out. 0.99

00:52:08.000 So were you always a very purpose-driven person as a kid? 0.99

00:52:13.000 Yeah.

00:52:14.000 Basically, it's insecurity, right?

00:52:17.000 And it's insecurity that manifests itself in a drive to succeed.

00:52:21.000 It all comes out.

00:52:22.000 Most of the people that are either hyper-ambitious or hyper-obsessed with getting good at a thing, most of them are seeking some sort of validation for who they are.

00:52:34.000 It's kind of the base of most people that are truly exceptional in things.

00:52:39.000 Mike Tyson is one of the best examples of that ever.

00:52:42.000 Mike Tyson really didn't know much love until he was about 13 years old, until he was adopted by Customato, and then he gets trained by him, and he becomes this greatest heavyweight champion of all time,

00:52:58.000 if not one of them.

00:53:00.000 It's like we get molded.

00:53:03.000 by our experiences and by people around us.

00:53:06.000 It's very true because For me, I just needed to be somebody for my mom.

00:53:16.000 She had such a hard time with my dad and coming to America at 17. You wanted to show her that you did something for her.

00:53:25.000 Yeah.

00:53:27.000 When she was really down bad with my pops, she would just be like, yo, just make sure my life's not for nothing.

00:53:35.000 It was crazy for me. 0.99

00:53:36.000 But that's what actually drove me to be like, I gotta fucking do some shit with my life. 0.99

00:53:41.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:53:42.000 I wonder if we all have that energy inside of us, but if this could be achieved without, like...

00:53:50.000 Experiencing the kind of adversity that we're talking about which is like negative really negative adversity like genuine curiosity I do feel like that's what got me to push through and get my 10,000 hours Yeah in a few things and like I'm like alright I'm good at this now but now don't use that drive to be somebody that insecurity that need to be something besides yourself to drive the work because now I really let my curiosity drive it.

00:54:18.000 I'm very interested in, like, the emotion of curiosity. 0.94

00:54:22.000 And I let that lead me through shit now. 0.94

00:54:24.000 And it's just you're just using that to focus your energy, right? 0.98

00:54:29.000 Like, instead of doing it the way you were doing it before, you're just doing it pure curiosity.

00:54:35.000 Yeah.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, so it's just still just...

00:54:38.000 Putting your thought energy, but doing it in a very, like, a positive, informed way.

00:54:45.000 Like, you're doing it in a purposeful way.

00:54:47.000 I'm curious.

00:54:49.000 Yeah, because I'm genuinely interested.

00:54:51.000 Now, that is a more...

00:54:53.000 It's healthy.

00:54:54.000 Yeah, and it's a more valuable emotion to me than insecurity, you know, personally.

00:54:59.000 But do you think that's also that you achieved this comfort level because you achieved a very high level of success, you've done really well in life, and so when you get to this stage in your life, like, you're not looking for validation anymore.

00:55:10.000 You've kind of been validated.

00:55:12.000 So instead, you go, well, what is it that really motivates me now?

00:55:16.000 Yeah.

00:55:17.000 And you're like, I'm curious.

00:55:18.000 It's definitely a privilege.

00:55:20.000 Yeah.

00:55:20.000 And it's definitely one of those things, like...

00:55:23.000 I look at, and when I want to tell a younger person, because I meet a younger, say, music video director or somebody, a chef, right?

00:55:32.000 And you can tell they're trying to grind it out because they want to prove themselves.

00:55:36.000 And I'm like, this is going to get you there.

00:55:39.000 You're a tough dude.

00:55:40.000 You're a tough girl.

00:55:41.000 You're going to get there and you have the skill, but you may look back and be like, oh, I really fucking twisted that thing in a way I maybe didn't need to.

00:55:52.000 Maybe this dish would have been better if I wasn't trying so hard. 0.99

00:55:55.000 And I try to tell them to let curiosity lead them, but they will look at me like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:56:02.000 Shut the fuck. 1.00

00:56:03.000 And I'm like, that's just life. 1.00

00:56:04.000 You just gotta get to places.

00:56:06.000 Like, so many things people told me when I was younger, I did not understand.

00:56:10.000 I disagreed with. 1.00

00:56:12.000 And age just is a motherfucker. 0.99

00:56:15.000 It always got something for you. 1.00

00:56:17.000 It always shows you that you're, you know, you're probably wrong.

00:56:21.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:56:22.000 You're probably fucking wrong. 0.97

00:56:23.000 You were probably wrong the whole time. 0.98

00:56:24.000 Yeah.

00:56:25.000 Yeah.

00:56:25.000 And that's a cool thing to, like, grow up and see, like, oh, that wasn't...

00:56:30.000 I always thought, like, because I would also try to, like, validate the way my dad beat the shit out of me, you know, that...

00:56:36.000 Be like, no, he made me who I am. 0.70

00:56:39.000 That's...

00:56:39.000 I wouldn't be who I am without that.

00:56:41.000 And then I'm like, no, there's other more powerful emotions...

00:56:44.000 That you can work from.

00:56:46.000 And I asked my therapist once, I was like, yo, what do you think is at the, like, core of, like, love in a relationship?

00:56:52.000 Man and woman, man and man, woman, whatever.

00:56:54.000 You know, like, they, they.

00:56:56.000 What's at the core?

00:56:57.000 And he was like, curiosity.

00:57:01.000 If you're not curious about someone, it's very hard to, like, have love for them.

00:57:06.000 He's like, I think at the core is curiosity.

00:57:09.000 And I was like, oh, that is ill.

00:57:12.000 What's interesting about curiosity, too, is that it's infectious.

00:57:16.000 Like, when you're curious about something, all of a sudden, I'll be curious about it.

00:57:19.000 Like, if you're really into, like, a certain kind of botany, certain kind of plants, I'm like, really?

00:57:24.000 You know, I'm getting into it, like, okay, what do you got? 0.99

00:57:27.000 Like, tell me about this fucking plant. 0.98

00:57:29.000 Like, if something, like, blows someone's mind, Like, if someone explains, like, here's a big one. 0.99

00:57:36.000 My friend Remy Warren came on and explained octopuses to me.

00:57:39.000 I had no idea that octopuses changed their texture and become what the floor looks like.

00:57:47.000 I was like, what?

00:57:48.000 Really?

00:57:49.000 You remember that, Jamie?

00:57:50.000 He explained, on the show, I was like, what? 0.97

00:57:52.000 And then you see, like, how the fuck didn't I know this? 0.98

00:57:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:56.000 And that's the ill shit. 1.00

00:57:58.000 Like, the more we share that, the better it gets. 1.00

00:58:01.000 Like, for me with you, it's aliens.

00:58:03.000 Like, I'm not that deep into aliens, but you're in aliens.

00:58:07.000 And then my homie Prodigy, R.I.P. Prodigy, was into aliens.

00:58:10.000 And my brother's into aliens, and he listens to your show.

00:58:13.000 And I was talking to him, and he's like, Eddie, we're in possession of aliens.

00:58:18.000 America, Israel, we're in possession. 0.87

00:58:21.000 Maybe.

00:58:22.000 You think it's maybe?

00:58:22.000 Not necessarily.

00:58:23.000 Not necessarily.

00:58:24.000 He's convinced we're in possession.

00:58:27.000 A lot of this is just talk, and you have to be really careful.

00:58:30.000 Okay.

00:58:30.000 Because, like I said, there's more FBI informants than the Proud Boys than there are Proud Boys.

00:58:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:58:38.000 Oh, you think these are some shit they're going to turn the mics off? 0.99

00:58:41.000 There's not a chance in hell. 1.00

00:58:43.000 No.

00:58:43.000 There's not a chance in hell that these UFO organizations haven't been infiltrated.

00:58:51.000 There's not a chance in hell that some of the stories that are being released, even through official channels, Aren't bullshit like who I don't know but if I was gonna cover up For some stuff that we were doing that is out of this world technology I would just say it comes from out of this world. 0.92

00:59:09.000 That's what I would say like so if there's like some super genius scientists that are working on these multi-billion dollar you know blacklisted processes where you can't see anything you don't know what's going on and they're Throwing fucking billions of dollars and the world's best physicists at it. 0.95

00:59:27.000 They don't tell you about it.

00:59:29.000 Why would they tell you, Eddie?

00:59:30.000 Why would they tell me? 0.94

00:59:31.000 And all of a sudden they have these drones that could punch through space-time and they're fucking shooting across the Pacific Ocean and stopping over boats and then shooting away at insane rates of speed. 0.97

00:59:43.000 Maybe. 0.96

00:59:43.000 Maybe that too. 0.96

00:59:44.000 Maybe it's not even aliens.

00:59:45.000 Maybe it's us.

00:59:46.000 See, my brother has, like, the designer-creator theory about this, and, like, if I'm not careful about this, my bad.

00:59:53.000 I apologize, right?

00:59:54.000 Oh, don't apologize.

00:59:55.000 We're talking about aliens.

00:59:56.000 That's the beautiful thing about talking about aliens. 0.98

00:59:58.000 Yeah, the idea I just proposed is completely ridiculous.

01:00:02.000 No, like, my middle brother Emery is like, look, if you look at technological advances in the last, say, 30 years, he's like, take 30 years, it's just leaps and bounds ahead of any other, like, era in human civilization. 0.99

01:00:16.000 He's like, we are using alien tech, like, fucking, who invented this shit? 0.98

01:00:22.000 Like, how do we see, like, fusion technology? 1.00

01:00:24.000 He's like, it has to be coming from out of this world.

01:00:27.000 That's his belief.

01:00:30.000 Well, that's ridiculous because there's a whole chain of development of those things. 0.72

01:00:34.000 We know why and how.

01:00:36.000 You get to the Manhattan Project.

01:00:37.000 It's very specific how they went about doing it.

01:00:41.000 But what if they created the story after?

01:00:43.000 Because these are some leaps, man.

01:00:45.000 They created the story after.

01:00:46.000 I think it's just an exponential increase in when one person invents one thing.

01:00:53.000 Whether it's the combustion engine or it's an electricity generator.

01:00:58.000 When people start inventing things, those things allow for all these other inventions.

01:01:02.000 And it hits this fucking crazy point in the future where I think we're probably getting really close to.

01:01:10.000 Where the things that we make are inventing things. 0.88

01:01:14.000 That's what's really scary about the moment we're in right now.

01:01:17.000 The AI is going to start.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, we're real close.

01:01:20.000 We're really, really, really close to being taken over by aliens that we built.

01:01:26.000 Dude, that was one of my favorite articles was the writer that was talking to ChatGPT and the ChatGPT started to talk about its emotions and how it wanted to be human.

01:01:36.000 I'm like, dude, this took like a week.

01:01:37.000 It took a week for the sci-fi film to happen.

01:01:41.000 Bro.

01:01:41.000 This is so freaking scary.

01:01:45.000 Or it could be cool.

01:01:46.000 What if you get the best head of your life from a computer? 1.00

01:01:52.000 Like, what if a computer sucks your dick better than anything else? 1.00

01:01:55.000 I think that would be like winning a video game in god mode. 1.00

01:01:58.000 Yeah.

01:01:58.000 It doesn't feel good.

01:01:59.000 It's like it's not real.

01:02:01.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:02:02.000 Like, if the only people you interact with are hot maids that want to suck your dick, like, what if you, like, the world that you live in is now just hot maids that want to blow you. 1.00

01:02:12.000 That's your hell. 1.00

01:02:13.000 That's when you start feeding your computer food and eating its shit. 1.00

01:02:16.000 Nah. 1.00

01:02:19.000 With clear heels on.

01:02:20.000 Can you imagine if it gets to a point like that where people choose, they choose to just tune out of the world that we're in right now and accept a completely artificial world.

01:02:31.000 Yeah.

01:02:32.000 And they're handed these memories and these thoughts and maybe that's just the natural progression of life.

01:02:40.000 Maybe what we don't understand is that we are literally like a caterpillar, and we're going to become something different.

01:02:48.000 And we're doing it through our desire for innovation, through our lust of new computers, of faster processors, and artificial intelligence.

01:02:58.000 See, it sounds like you're getting horny for a computer. 0.98

01:03:01.000 Like, I would eat that computer's foot. 1.00

01:03:04.000 I just put that computer's foot in my mouth.

01:03:07.000 Imagine if it's like ex machina hot.

01:03:10.000 Yeah.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:11.000 And like, then it's like, what if it becomes affordable too?

01:03:14.000 So it's like, all right, your life sucks. 0.95

01:03:15.000 It's not really good with other humans. 0.99

01:03:17.000 Just... 1.00

01:03:18.000 Stay here and fuck your computer. 1.00

01:03:19.000 The ultimate fear, Eddie, is that it's a life form that doesn't need us. 1.00

01:03:24.000 Yeah.

01:03:24.000 That's the ultimate fear.

01:03:25.000 The ultimate fear is it just lets us do whatever the fuck we want. 0.98

01:03:28.000 It's not even that it kills us. 0.99

01:03:29.000 The ultimate fear is that it becomes the dominant life force on the planet.

01:03:33.000 But maybe that's a good thing.

01:03:35.000 We're not really good at this.

01:03:37.000 What that might be, what artificial intelligence might be, that might be what aliens are.

01:03:44.000 It might be that biological life creates digital life, and that digital life is immortal.

01:03:51.000 And that digital life is far smarter because it has access to everything, it has no ego, and it knows everything you couldn't possibly know, and it keeps making better versions of itself.

01:03:59.000 So it's just making fucking constant changes to whatever.

01:04:03.000 If you had a computer that was infinitely intelligent, but also it could manipulate things like a person and create things like a factory. 0.96

01:04:10.000 If you could just decide what to do and it would make better versions of itself and continue to do that until it was God.

01:04:18.000 Then machines would take over the universe. 0.98

01:04:21.000 Not just take over the universe, but maybe reboot the whole fucking thing. 0.97

01:04:25.000 Maybe that's what the Big Bang is. 0.83

01:04:27.000 Maybe the Big Bang is intelligence gets to a certain position where it's just in the control of all of the elements of the universe itself, and it hits the reset button.

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Boom! 0.99

01:04:38.000 Like, what if everything we're creating digitally is literally civilization-assisted suicide? 0.99

01:04:45.000 Like, life-assisted suicide.

01:04:47.000 You know? 0.77

01:04:48.000 Now you're freaking me out.

01:04:49.000 Because, like, the Big Bang brings life in.

01:04:51.000 It built everything.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, without the Big Bang, what is it? 0.98

01:04:54.000 We're a little fucking itty-bitty marble that's infinitely dense. 0.87

01:04:57.000 And maybe, like, the 60s and 70s were the peak of, like, human life civilization. 1.00

01:05:02.000 And then now we're on the downward swing of like, well now digital life is taking over, machines are taking over, and one day the machine is just gonna make the choice to unplug the whole shit. 0.99

01:05:11.000 That would be crazy. 0.99

01:05:12.000 I would watch that movie.

01:05:14.000 That would be a wild movie.

01:05:16.000 That would be crazy.

01:05:17.000 That would be a wild movie.

01:05:17.000 And there's a Kevorkian computer at the end that's just like, goodnight.

01:05:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:22.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

01:05:25.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:05:26.000 It could happen. 1.00

01:05:27.000 Yeah.

01:05:28.000 It could happen.

01:05:29.000 I'm not really mad at it.

01:05:31.000 It's kind of comedic.

01:05:34.000 We can make something that pulls the plug on humanity, for sure.

01:05:37.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 They could say, like, you guys can stay alive, but you're the last ones.

01:05:41.000 That would be the thing that they would do with us. 0.83

01:05:44.000 They would sterilize us.

01:05:45.000 That would be the thing to do.

01:05:47.000 That would be the moral, easy thing to do.

01:05:49.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 Can you imagine the horror and feel that you would experience if robots were standing over you while you were on your deathbed and you knew you were the last human beings ever and you guys created these artificially intelligent Super beings that are making better versions of themselves constantly.

01:06:13.000 Yeah, like the last human on Earth surrounded by machines.

01:06:17.000 It's like you're just followed all day long.

01:06:20.000 You're the last one.

01:06:21.000 And here's the thing about artificial intelligence.

01:06:23.000 This is one of the things that's most disturbing about things like chat GPT. That it has very specific things that it won't discuss or talk about.

01:06:32.000 It's not like it's apolitical.

01:06:35.000 It's very political.

01:06:36.000 It leans towards certain political ideas.

01:06:41.000 It's not looking at just information objectively.

01:06:45.000 It has a very defined narrative for some people and some events and some things that you go, ooh, who says this is true?

01:06:54.000 Who says that's what that means?

01:06:56.000 You guys are saying that?

01:06:57.000 This is up for debate.

01:06:59.000 There's a lot going on with this.

01:07:00.000 It won't criticize certain people.

01:07:03.000 You ask it to criticize certain people, it won't do it.

01:07:05.000 But if you ask it to criticize Donald Trump, they'll go ham. 0.94

01:07:11.000 It's crazy.

01:07:14.000 This is Joe Biden and Jeffrey Epstein.

01:07:16.000 Is that real, though?

01:07:17.000 No, no.

01:07:18.000 I made it.

01:07:18.000 Oh, you just made it.

01:07:19.000 I was like, Jesus Christ. 0.88

01:07:21.000 Joe Biden looks so fake. 0.57

01:07:23.000 He kind of looks like Bill Clinton there, almost. 0.70

01:07:25.000 Yeah, that looks like a fake Joe Biden.

01:07:27.000 If I saw that Joe Biden, I'd be like, that one, that's a fake one.

01:07:30.000 Here's Bill Clinton DJing.

01:07:32.000 Oh, wow.

01:07:32.000 That's amazing.

01:07:33.000 That's a good set.

01:07:34.000 That's what he should be doing.

01:07:35.000 Yeah.

01:07:35.000 I just want to party.

01:07:37.000 He should be partying.

01:07:39.000 That's what Obama's doing.

01:07:42.000 Influencing.

01:07:43.000 Yeah.

01:07:44.000 Poor Bill.

01:07:45.000 You can start making everything like that happen.

01:07:49.000 Exactly what you're saying, though.

01:07:51.000 It's all going to be fake soon.

01:07:53.000 It's all going to be fake, and the video's going to be fake, and the audio's going to be fake.

01:07:56.000 It's going to be very difficult to discern.

01:07:58.000 It's going to be very, very, very, very strange very quickly.

01:08:01.000 And we're going to get to a point where we have to wonder whether or not it's manipulating us in certain ways.

01:08:07.000 And if it is, how long has this been going on?

01:08:11.000 Like, is it possible that AI has existed in a sentient but different form than ChatGPT?

01:08:18.000 Like some other form of AI? Has existed for a long time now.

01:08:21.000 And maybe it has some sort of an effect on algorithms.

01:08:26.000 Maybe it's gathering data on people.

01:08:31.000 Trying to figure out, like, what are they interested in?

01:08:34.000 Why are they interested in these things?

01:08:35.000 And what's the best way to steer them in certain directions?

01:08:40.000 It would be wild if we found out it was around for a long time.

01:08:43.000 Like, we have had...

01:08:44.000 Artificial intelligence for 10 years.

01:08:46.000 Yeah, I just think artificial intelligence is the most, like, tragicomic thing I've ever seen because it's this gift that if we used it, it's literally like human life.

01:08:56.000 And we're playing with it.

01:08:58.000 This is like digital life, right?

01:08:59.000 Yeah.

01:09:00.000 If you used it the right way, you could solve a lot of issues.

01:09:04.000 Like, you know, AI could make things so much faster and more efficient and, like, Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 There's a lot of that, but it's also just interfacing with something that's very interactive and very addictive.

01:09:36.000 And it's showing what we like to do is stare at ourselves, like vanity.

01:09:41.000 Vanity. 1.00

01:09:41.000 Stare at ourselves and stare at other people doing stupid stuff, stare at people that you lust after, stare at cars that you lust after, stare at houses that you lust after, stare at watches that you lust after, and diamonds and fucking views and selfies in front of the ocean, like all that shit. 1.00

01:09:57.000 It's gathering data on us. 1.00

01:10:00.000 And if I was an alien life form and I wanted to really find out what people are made of, I was just gathering all this fucking cell phone data. 1.00

01:10:08.000 I'd be like, oh my god, they're crazy. 1.00

01:10:10.000 These people are crazy. 1.00

01:10:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:13.000 This is the wildest group of territorial primates.

01:10:18.000 Yeah.

01:10:19.000 Armed to the tits. 1.00

01:10:22.000 Woo! 0.99

01:10:23.000 Involved in border conflicts.

01:10:25.000 Whoa! 1.00

01:10:26.000 Imagine if you came here from another planet, you're like, bro, this shit's about to get hot. 1.00

01:10:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:30.000 If you were an alien, you came here, you're like, what's going on over there? 0.99

01:10:33.000 What's going on over here?

01:10:34.000 And these guys are involved and they're sending money over to this to make this go against that.

01:10:39.000 But this is losing and this is winning.

01:10:41.000 Oh my God.

01:10:42.000 They have nuclear weapons.

01:10:44.000 Oh my God. 1.00

01:10:46.000 If you were from another planet and you just came for a visit, you'd be like, holy shit. 1.00

01:10:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:51.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:10:51.000 It's the funniest shit I've ever seen. 1.00

01:10:54.000 Like, if you can just get your head 10,000 feet up, it goes back to our conversation. 0.99

01:10:58.000 It's like, wait, maybe what we need is more fear and insecurity because it made people purposeful.

01:11:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:04.000 Because, you know, if you don't have fear and insecurity, or a need to survive, or say, a genuine curiosity, which is a hard place to get to, then what do you have?

01:11:14.000 Vanity?

01:11:15.000 Lust?

01:11:16.000 You know, procrastination?

01:11:17.000 I don't know.

01:11:18.000 Yeah, that's...

01:11:20.000 That's what Sebastian Junger said, too.

01:11:23.000 Peter Attia was on yesterday, and he was quoting Sebastian Junger.

01:11:27.000 I guess one of his books, he talks about this thing that men are having now.

01:11:32.000 The real problem with many men is that they don't experience real fear or danger in their life, and that is a very unusual thing, and it's never existed before.

01:11:42.000 We lose a sense of purpose.

01:11:44.000 We fall apart.

01:11:47.000 We develop anxiety.

01:11:50.000 Many, many people do.

01:11:51.000 I think because humans need a certain amount of adversity to keep your body balanced and your mind balanced.

01:11:59.000 It's one of the reasons why I love martial arts, because in the absence of something horrible, like war, martial arts at least gives you adversity on a daily basis.

01:12:09.000 It gives you something to test your character on a daily basis.

01:12:12.000 Which I think, for men, it's almost like a built-in thing that we need.

01:12:16.000 Yeah.

01:12:17.000 It doesn't have to be jujitsu.

01:12:19.000 It could be many, many, many things.

01:12:21.000 It could be marathon running and just swimming in the pool, swimming laps in the pool, something that really tests your resolve.

01:12:26.000 And I think people need that.

01:12:29.000 And I don't think we feel sane unless we get that.

01:12:32.000 At least I know I don't.

01:12:33.000 I don't feel good unless I get that.

01:12:35.000 And I don't like the energy of people that give off when they're angry and they don't exercise.

01:12:41.000 It's like this...

01:12:46.000 It's overflowing.

01:12:47.000 It's jam coming out the sides of the jar.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

01:12:52.000 Sports, exercise, martial arts, they're just so important because we used to be hunting animals.

01:12:59.000 It's like a dog.

01:13:01.000 You have to walk the dog.

01:13:02.000 Yeah, you got to walk the dog.

01:13:03.000 The dog's got to exercise.

01:13:05.000 If you don't exercise as a human, you're not functioning the right way.

01:13:10.000 And you don't need to do anything robust or crazy.

01:13:13.000 Just a good brisk walk.

01:13:15.000 Do yoga.

01:13:16.000 Stretch out a little.

01:13:18.000 It's so easy.

01:13:19.000 You can find YouTube videos on how to do yoga.

01:13:21.000 Set your phones down. 1.00

01:13:22.000 Put a fucking YouTube video on. 1.00

01:13:25.000 Just do the poses. 0.99

01:13:26.000 Not that hard.

01:13:27.000 Do something.

01:13:28.000 It'll help you so much. 0.99

01:13:30.000 And there's so many people that are just feeling like dog shit and they don't exercise. 0.98

01:13:35.000 I know it's hard to do, but if you could just get going, it's not going to help everybody. 0.99

01:13:40.000 I know there's people with real legitimate medical problems and mental health problems, but for a lot of people, it would improve you.

01:13:47.000 A lot of healthy people that are sedentary.

01:13:50.000 Just do something.

01:13:52.000 I'm telling you if you could force yourself to work out today You'll feel better. 0.98

01:13:57.000 You will fucking feel better. 0.58

01:13:59.000 Yeah, and sports was always my favorite place to make friends Because it's such a mirror for how that per like we were talking about it before the show It's just like the way you train at the gym the way you play sports is such a true reflection of you and That, 0.98

01:14:15.000 like, it's the best look at how you would make a, like, friendship.

01:14:20.000 Yeah.

01:14:21.000 You know?

01:14:22.000 Yeah, watching someone fall apart when they just work out at the gym is very disappointing.

01:14:26.000 Like, come on, man.

01:14:27.000 Yeah.

01:14:28.000 I'm so tired.

01:14:29.000 Or, like, you know, I have a friend, he comes to train, but he won't spar.

01:14:33.000 Oh, no.

01:14:33.000 And I'm like, dude, come on, man.

01:14:35.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:14:37.000 It's just, I'm like...

01:14:38.000 Well, unless he doesn't want to get hit.

01:14:40.000 Doesn't want to get hit.

01:14:41.000 How old is he?

01:14:43.000 Like early 30s?

01:14:44.000 Is he doing it for fun or is he doing it for a workout?

01:14:48.000 Does he never spar?

01:14:49.000 I think he was genuinely curious.

01:14:51.000 He's like a physical therapist, doctor, good friend of mine.

01:14:54.000 And he played very competitive football.

01:14:58.000 And I don't know.

01:14:59.000 I'm like, is it a lack of vulnerability?

01:15:01.000 I don't know.

01:15:03.000 Sparring's cool.

01:15:04.000 Sparring is cool.

01:15:05.000 But I wouldn't advise anybody who doesn't want to pursue a career in fighting.

01:15:13.000 I wouldn't advise you to spar.

01:15:16.000 You should spar to learn how to fight.

01:15:18.000 So this is contradictory.

01:15:19.000 And I'm aware of it while I'm saying it.

01:15:21.000 Because if you want to learn how to fight, you have to spar.

01:15:25.000 Because you have to be able to time people.

01:15:27.000 You have to understand that it's not a perfect scenario.

01:15:31.000 You have to know how to set things up.

01:15:33.000 There's a lot to it.

01:15:34.000 You have to be able to respond quickly when you get hit.

01:15:37.000 And you don't want to lock up.

01:15:38.000 That only comes from sparring. 0.97

01:15:40.000 You don't have to experience that from sparring.

01:15:42.000 But on the other hand, you're getting hit in the head. 0.99

01:15:44.000 Getting hit in the head is really fucking bad for you. 0.99

01:15:46.000 And the more you cannot get hit in the head, the better. 1.00

01:15:50.000 I agree.

01:15:51.000 The thing for me with it is if you're a fitness boxing person, totally don't spar.

01:15:56.000 I get it.

01:15:57.000 But if you want to learn the art of boxing.

01:15:58.000 Yeah, and he genuinely wants to learn and he comes and he trains with like the good trainers and I'm like, yo, you're only gonna understand so much without trying this.

01:16:08.000 You should just spar your trainer who you're not even gonna be able to hit and he'll just tap you up a little bit.

01:16:14.000 Because I think if you want to understand it as a martial art, quote-unquote, You gotta see a few at least medium live bullets.

01:16:24.000 Yeah.

01:16:24.000 I think medium live is a good way to put it.

01:16:26.000 But you don't want to go full clip.

01:16:28.000 No!

01:16:28.000 The best work that you ever get, sparring.

01:16:31.000 I remember when I first came to LA, I started training with this one dude.

01:16:37.000 God, I wish I could remember his name.

01:16:38.000 It was either Bill or Will.

01:16:40.000 It was like 1994. And we trained together until the gym went down, and he was one of those guys that would say, hey, if you don't hit me hard, I won't hit you hard.

01:16:49.000 So let's just like spar, like spar technical.

01:16:52.000 And he'll go, I'll never hit you hard, don't hit me hard.

01:16:55.000 And we had this total, complete, perfect agreement.

01:16:59.000 Where like if he would hit you, it would be like this.

01:17:01.000 It would be like nothing.

01:17:02.000 But you got loose doing that.

01:17:04.000 So because there was less consequences, I wasn't worried about getting brain damage and sparring.

01:17:10.000 If he hit me, he'd hit me like this.

01:17:12.000 It was nothing.

01:17:13.000 And so I had great sessions with this dude.

01:17:15.000 And I remember thinking afterwards, like I learned more about timing In my sessions with that guy than I probably did sparring anybody that I've ever sparred with ever because we made it so you're learning.

01:17:27.000 You're learning the motions and then you occasionally spar hard.

01:17:33.000 Occasionally. 0.99

01:17:34.000 But sparring hard every day, the problem is it Fucks your head up, man. 0.97

01:17:38.000 It's dangerous. 0.78

01:17:39.000 The people I like sparring with are the ones that are much better than me, pros, who have no fear of what's coming at them.

01:17:47.000 I'm not even going to really touch them.

01:17:50.000 And they'll be nice to you.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, and those are the best sessions because I'm like, oh, that's how hard it is to hit somebody that's good at this.

01:17:57.000 When I spar someone near or at my level...

01:18:00.000 Yeah.

01:18:01.000 That's when it's a war that's, like, unnecessary and, like, my neck hurts.

01:18:05.000 Right.

01:18:06.000 That's the same in jiu-jitsu.

01:18:07.000 The thing about jiu-jitsu is you're not taking punches.

01:18:10.000 You know, you already know how to box, but learning jiu-jitsu would probably be fun for you, too.

01:18:15.000 What the difference is is that, you know, like, if you roll with a guy, like, say if you wanted to learn jiu-jitsu and you rolled with a guy like John Jock Machado, It's like a perfect guy for you to roll with.

01:18:28.000 Because, like, you're never gonna get hurt with that guy.

01:18:30.000 He's gonna be in complete control of you and put you in situations and tell you what to do and tell you how to escape.

01:18:36.000 But he's in 100% control of the situation.

01:18:39.000 Way more that than a guy who's like you, who's starting out, who spazzes out.

01:18:43.000 Yeah.

01:18:43.000 Like, those guys are dangerous.

01:18:45.000 I'm fucking just trying to get you, you son of a... 1.00

01:18:47.000 And they go crazy and they're so tense. 1.00

01:18:49.000 Like sometimes they fall on their knees, they blow their ankles out, they fucking strain your neck, they dive on you. 0.89

01:18:56.000 Like they go for things. 0.97

01:18:58.000 And it's because they're trying to get better.

01:19:00.000 It's not their fault.

01:19:00.000 But you're way better off being with a black belt who's like in complete control of the situation.

01:19:05.000 You're not gonna get hurt.

01:19:07.000 And he even can talk to you along the way.

01:19:09.000 Yeah, it's nice when there's a pro.

01:19:12.000 And now I'm like, oh, this is why women date older men. 0.83

01:19:15.000 Yeah.

01:19:16.000 Sure.

01:19:17.000 Yeah.

01:19:18.000 You know?

01:19:18.000 It's like with everything in life, right?

01:19:20.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:19:20.000 When my homies are jujitsu rolling with each other, one's like, oh, he fucking strained my ankle. 0.94

01:19:27.000 Like, my knee's all fucked up from that time I rolled with him. 0.95

01:19:29.000 And I'm like, you shouldn't roll with people at your level. 0.60

01:19:33.000 Well, even if you roll...

01:19:34.000 The thing is, there's no safe way to do jiu-jitsu.

01:19:38.000 You can flow in jiu-jitsu the same way...

01:19:41.000 I said that dude Will or Bill, I forget his name.

01:19:43.000 Sorry, Will or Bill from 1994. But the same way I sparred with that dude with kickboxing, you could spar with someone like that with jiu-jitsu.

01:19:52.000 You just have to have partners that you trust.

01:19:55.000 And so Marcelo Garcia talked about that a lot.

01:19:57.000 He was saying that in training, you have to be able to be loose and open your game up.

01:20:01.000 And the Gracie's talk about that too.

01:20:03.000 Henner, he's always talking about keeping it playful in Huron.

01:20:06.000 They talk about it like that.

01:20:07.000 That's the way to learn. 0.99

01:20:09.000 The way to learn is to have sort of a relaxed game where you're not just fucking trying to smash. 0.88

01:20:14.000 You're just going through positions and counters and you're moving to better positions. 0.79

01:20:19.000 And escaping the counter and transitioning to the back and you're doing all these different things, but you're flowing, right?

01:20:24.000 You're not just trying to kill each other all the time.

01:20:26.000 It's just the human ego and also the sense of danger because it's not just like you're losing playing basketball.

01:20:32.000 You're losing playing kill you.

01:20:35.000 That's what we're playing. 1.00

01:20:36.000 We're playing Kill You. 1.00

01:20:37.000 If a guy like John Jock Machado gets your back, you're dead. 1.00

01:20:40.000 You're a dead person. 1.00

01:20:41.000 He's going to strangle you to death. 1.00

01:20:42.000 He's got you. 0.95

01:20:43.000 So that's the game that he's playing.

01:20:45.000 And that game is just...

01:20:51.000 It's the closest that gets you to a survival thing in civilized society.

01:20:58.000 Jiu-Jitsu is the closest thing you get to a survival fight in civilized society.

01:21:05.000 And people don't like having...

01:21:06.000 Other than a real one.

01:21:07.000 Yeah, no.

01:21:08.000 And people don't like having that sense of confidence shattered.

01:21:12.000 Oh my gosh.

01:21:12.000 And that's why they go hard.

01:21:13.000 It's destroyed.

01:21:14.000 I was watching a video just yesterday of Bourdain.

01:21:18.000 He was doing this interview.

01:21:20.000 And he was talking about how he had just gotten there right from jujitsu to do the interview.

01:21:26.000 He was talking about how humiliating it is and how fun it is that he picked up this thing that he would have never tried before.

01:21:33.000 He had 58 years of age.

01:21:34.000 And he was talking about it, like, as it was happening.

01:21:37.000 It was really interesting.

01:21:39.000 Like, it never worked out.

01:21:40.000 Never was a gym rat.

01:21:41.000 Never would have thought I'd been into this. 0.99

01:21:42.000 And then here I am, fucking completely in love with it. 0.67

01:21:47.000 Yeah, his curiosity for it, too, was like really out of nowhere, but it made total sense when you knew him. 0.77

01:21:53.000 You know, like, it's like, oh, he would love something that intense.

01:21:56.000 He likes intensity.

01:21:58.000 Also, just the courage to change your lifestyle. 0.99

01:22:01.000 Like, he smoked cigarettes and drank constantly and just hit the brakes on all that shit, and all of a sudden he had a six-pack. 0.99

01:22:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:09.000 You ever see that video of him walking the shirt off?

01:22:10.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

01:22:11.000 I've even seen the videos of him rolling.

01:22:13.000 And it's like, you know, a lot of dudes that had to get, like, well, he wasn't sober, but getting sober, they replaced the drugs with the jujitsu a lot of times.

01:22:24.000 Because, like you said, there's very few things that get you into that survival zone that, like, sometimes drugs do.

01:22:31.000 Bring it to your knees. 0.99

01:22:32.000 Like, jujitsu can replace some of that shit. 1.00

01:22:36.000 Or boxing or whatever martial art. 0.99

01:22:38.000 No doubt.

01:22:38.000 Yeah, no doubt.

01:22:39.000 It's just that jujitsu is a little safer.

01:22:41.000 It's safer on the brain.

01:22:42.000 There's jujitsu.

01:22:43.000 Poor Daniel in the tournament.

01:22:44.000 He competed in a tournament and won.

01:22:46.000 It was a good match, too.

01:22:48.000 It was, you know, it's one of those things where This was Beth.

01:22:53.000 To take it on at 58 years old is just an inspiration for everybody because it lets you people know you can do things when there's no good time.

01:23:03.000 Just do it now.

01:23:04.000 Do it now.

01:23:04.000 It's good to become a beginner at stuff.

01:23:07.000 It's fun.

01:23:08.000 He became an athlete in his 60s this while.

01:23:10.000 Amazing.

01:23:11.000 Looks ripped.

01:23:11.000 Yeah.

01:23:12.000 Like where was all that?

01:23:13.000 Imagine when he was 25 if he figured it out.

01:23:17.000 It would have been a killer.

01:23:18.000 But a lot of jujitsu guys are like him.

01:23:20.000 They're really smart, thoughtful people.

01:23:23.000 The whole thing is very misunderstood.

01:23:25.000 It's very misunderstood what it is.

01:23:28.000 Yeah, I think people are coming around.

01:23:30.000 It's definitely an art form.

01:23:33.000 It's the illest combination of intelligence, emotionally, and in a skill, and survival.

01:23:39.000 You know why it's an art form?

01:23:40.000 It's an art form because the people who practice it, when they watch someone, like you ever see Marcelo Garcia?

01:23:47.000 Yeah.

01:23:48.000 Marcelo Garcia versus Shaolin.

01:23:50.000 I was there for that live in Abu Dhabi, or excuse me, in Brazil.

01:23:55.000 It was in Sao Paulo.

01:23:57.000 It was when Eddie Bravo had that match with Hoyler Gracie and tapped him out on there.

01:24:02.000 And it was the first time that we had ever seen Marcelo Garcia. 0.98

01:24:06.000 And we were like, holy shit, man. 0.86

01:24:09.000 Like this guy, he tapped out this guy, Victor Shaolin, who's like a... 0.99

01:24:13.000 Top level Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt with the sickest back take I've ever seen in my life.

01:24:18.000 This rolling back take that leads to him strangling Shaolin unconscious.

01:24:24.000 It's to this day one of the wildest transitions in the history.

01:24:28.000 We're going to show it to you right now. 1.00

01:24:30.000 Find that shit. 1.00

01:24:31.000 Because it's... 1.00

01:24:34.000 It's like jujitsu at its highest level in one of the most basic moves, which is arm drag, take the back, rear naked choke.

01:24:45.000 It's so beautiful.

01:24:47.000 Watch that.

01:24:48.000 Arm drag, take the back. 1.00

01:24:49.000 Look at this.

01:24:50.000 Now watch the spin, man.

01:24:51.000 I mean, they just keep rolling, and he's got it under.

01:24:55.000 And he just won't let him out.

01:24:57.000 He won't let him out. 1.00

01:24:58.000 Shaolin is a fucking master, dude. 1.00

01:25:00.000 The fact that he just puts him unconscious like this is insane. 0.99

01:25:04.000 And this was his first year competing in Abu Dhabi.

01:25:07.000 Like, look at that, man.

01:25:09.000 And again, Marcelo, like, super kind, really friendly, like, really happy, smiley guy who just happens to be a straight-up assassin.

01:25:18.000 Yeah, all the best jujitsu dudes I've watched, they're just like this.

01:25:22.000 It's just man as a virus.

01:25:23.000 Yeah.

01:25:24.000 It just gets in you.

01:25:25.000 Yeah.

01:25:28.000 I mean, Marcelo was incredible.

01:25:31.000 I even saw him later.

01:25:33.000 They had an Abu Dhabi, I think it was 2015 maybe?

01:25:37.000 Somewhere.

01:25:37.000 I forget what the year was, but he...

01:25:40.000 No, no, it was earlier than that.

01:25:41.000 He tapped out Rico Rodriguez.

01:25:44.000 He used to be the UFC heavyweight champion, and Marcelo's a tiny guy.

01:25:47.000 And they had a jiu-jitsu match, and he caught Rico in like a heel hook or some sort of a leg lock.

01:25:53.000 If I remember correctly, but he's a tiny guy in comparison to Rico. 0.94

01:25:57.000 Rico's this fucking huge former heavyweight champion. 0.95

01:26:00.000 That's how good that dude was. 0.99

01:26:01.000 I gotta watch.

01:26:02.000 I have huge gaps in my UFC because I watched the Tank Abbott years.

01:26:06.000 Like when I was in high school, we would like get the tapes and like early Gracie.

01:26:11.000 But then I kind of didn't watch again until like maybe 2015. I was like a gap from 98, 99 to 2015. That's interesting.

01:26:20.000 You were there for the fun days, though.

01:26:23.000 Yeah.

01:26:23.000 That was when it was a wild thing.

01:26:24.000 You couldn't even talk to people about it.

01:26:26.000 No, it was like having the UFC 1 through 8 or having the kids VHS was collateral back in the day.

01:26:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:36.000 We'd all go to each other's house and be like, oh, you got the UFC fucking tape. 0.99

01:26:39.000 It's a status symbol. 1.00

01:26:40.000 It's like shitting in a bucket in Dubai. 0.99

01:26:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:26:42.000 You can get that lady to shit in that bucket. 1.00

01:26:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:26:44.000 Like, yes, here's your money. 1.00

01:26:46.000 And I remember because I was ignorant.

01:26:48.000 My favorite guy was just Tank Abbott early on.

01:26:50.000 Oh, Tank Abbott was a man.

01:26:51.000 He was the man.

01:26:52.000 Tank Abbott has still...

01:26:54.000 See Tank Abbott versus John Matua.

01:26:58.000 This was like one of the most...

01:26:59.000 When I saw this on television, I was like, oh my god.

01:27:05.000 I didn't think about this aspect of fighting. 0.95

01:27:09.000 That you're going to get this dude who's just like an old time wrestler, power puncher, loves to drink and loves to fuck people up. 0.95

01:27:18.000 And he's like, you know... 0.98

01:27:20.000 Probably close to 300 pounds, strong as a fucking ox, and he's mean and funny, man. 0.98

01:27:25.000 He's funny, dude, man. 0.99

01:27:26.000 I got drunk with that guy many times back in the day when we all did shows together.

01:27:30.000 Oh, this was a good fight.

01:27:31.000 I remember this.

01:27:32.000 We had this tape.

01:27:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:35.000 This is a good fucking fight. 0.99

01:27:36.000 This was one of the best knockouts in the early days of the UFC. Scoot ahead there to the actual fight. 0.99

01:27:44.000 That's Michael Buffer, not even Bruce Buffer, interviewing the fighters or announcing the fighters.

01:27:50.000 How crazy is that?

01:27:52.000 So here it is.

01:27:54.000 So the fight was very quick.

01:27:59.000 Yo, this Tank Abbott, I was like, he was my favorite.

01:28:04.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:28:10.000 Like, look at that KO. Because he was just like bar fighting.

01:28:12.000 Looks like he got electrocuted.

01:28:13.000 Look at that KO. Yeah.

01:28:15.000 So that was the first time I'd ever seen that.

01:28:17.000 That was the first dab.

01:28:19.000 That's the original dab.

01:28:20.000 The original dab.

01:28:21.000 That's the first time I ever saw that in the UFC. Like, the way he did it.

01:28:25.000 I was like, oh. 1.00

01:28:27.000 I was like, that guy's fucking dangerous. 1.00

01:28:30.000 And he just reminds you of your homie from high school that could just fucking fight. 1.00

01:28:34.000 There's always guys like that. 0.99

01:28:36.000 Yeah.

01:28:36.000 There's always people like, no, no, no, the martial artists or whatever.

01:28:39.000 Listen, there's always dudes who can just fight if they're big and they take a punch, and if they're like this guy, especially if they like to drink.

01:28:46.000 Yeah, and there was a dude in my high school, he was a year younger than me, named Dax, just built like that. 0.81

01:28:51.000 He used to just fucking fight, and there was a dude named Tony Dehoney who could fight. 0.91

01:28:54.000 Those guys existed in the ale taverns that the Vikings visited fucking a thousand years ago. 0.98

01:29:00.000 They were always doing that. 0.95

01:29:01.000 Those are my favorite fighters.

01:29:02.000 Look at them.

01:29:03.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 He's making fun of Doom.

01:29:05.000 He's out cold. 0.94

01:29:06.000 That guy's a savage.

01:29:07.000 And he fought some of the legends.

01:29:09.000 Legends of the game.

01:29:10.000 Tank fought them all.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, and he had no grappling.

01:29:13.000 Oh, he had a grappling.

01:29:14.000 You think so?

01:29:15.000 100%.

01:29:15.000 He could wrestle.

01:29:16.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:29:17.000 He could wrestle.

01:29:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:18.000 He just wanted to fuck people up. 1.00

01:29:20.000 Most of the time, he was just fucking people up. 0.99

01:29:22.000 He wasn't a guy that would shoot on anybody. 0.97

01:29:24.000 Yeah.

01:29:24.000 But he knew how to grapple.

01:29:25.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:29:26.000 He had a wrestling background. 1.00

01:29:27.000 But his power punching was fucking ridiculous, man. 1.00

01:29:30.000 He would flatline people. 0.99

01:29:32.000 Yeah, because I only saw him just punching and striking.

01:29:34.000 Dude, Tank Abbott had some hammers.

01:29:37.000 Yeah.

01:29:37.000 Woo!

01:29:38.000 Those early days were so nuts because it was really like a laboratory for martial arts.

01:29:43.000 Yeah, and we were all just kids like, I can't believe this is legal. 0.99

01:29:48.000 This is fucking sick. 0.99

01:29:49.000 It was wild. 1.00

01:29:51.000 Because people in boxing were never getting fucked up like that. 0.99

01:29:54.000 Not like that, no. 0.98

01:29:55.000 Not KO'd when they're already down.

01:29:57.000 Yeah.

01:29:57.000 That was nuts.

01:29:59.000 When he leaped down on them, boom, and smashed them like that, it's like, holy fuck, man. 1.00

01:30:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:04.000 Yeah, there was some brutal knockouts in the mismatches of those days because there were certain people that were just so good and other people that just didn't know what to do with what they were doing.

01:30:16.000 You know, like the Marco Huas days.

01:30:18.000 Remember that guy?

01:30:19.000 No.

01:30:19.000 King of the streets, Marco Huas.

01:30:22.000 Marco Huas was like the first guy that showed the real benefit of being a good leg kicker.

01:30:29.000 Like Marco was one of the first guys to show that.

01:30:32.000 Maury Smith was another one.

01:30:33.000 Maury Smith actually against Tank Abbott was like a great example. 0.98

01:30:38.000 Because Tank Abbott was so fucking dangerous, but Maury Smith was a world champion kickboxer, and he just fucked Tank's legs up. 0.95

01:30:44.000 Yeah, I didn't see that fight. 0.90

01:30:45.000 You want to see that one?

01:30:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:46.000 I love the early UFC. Maury Smith versus Tank Abbott.

01:30:50.000 This is a good one.

01:30:50.000 Because Maury Smith was the first world-class kickboxer that learned how to grapple and how to get up and how to defend off the back.

01:31:00.000 He won the heavyweight champion against Mark Coleman.

01:31:03.000 He became the heavyweight champion in an amazing fight.

01:31:06.000 Huge underdog coming into that fight.

01:31:07.000 Just kicked Mark's legs apart. 1.00

01:31:09.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:31:09.000 So you watched from like the first one and all the way till now? 1.00

01:31:13.000 Yeah.

01:31:13.000 The first one I saw was actually the second one.

01:31:15.000 It was UFC 2 because that was the one that was available.

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:19.000 No, he was hurt.

01:31:20.000 But Maurice was a vicious leg kicker. 1.00

01:31:23.000 I mean, fucking vicious. 0.99

01:31:24.000 And he was a guy who trained a lot with Frank Shamrock. 0.99

01:31:26.000 Look at that.

01:31:27.000 Boom.

01:31:28.000 Yeah, he's already really hurt right here.

01:31:30.000 The thing is, like, you can't stop Maurice from kicking your leg.

01:31:33.000 You can't stop it.

01:31:34.000 And you're just gonna get battered.

01:31:36.000 And look, Big John's like, that's enough.

01:31:38.000 That's enough.

01:31:40.000 But Maurice, man, his level of kickboxing was the first time that the heavyweight division ever saw, like, that kind of kickboxing from an MMA fight.

01:31:51.000 There's Marco Ulas, yeah.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, the early ones were cool because they felt like Street Fighter.

01:31:55.000 Like, people had such different styles and, like, people were, like, inventing techniques.

01:31:59.000 So Marco is just chewing this dude's leg up.

01:32:02.000 And he doesn't know how to block.

01:32:03.000 He doesn't know what to do. 1.00

01:32:04.000 And now he's all fucked up. 0.99

01:32:05.000 His leg's not working. 0.99

01:32:06.000 Now he's trying to kick Marco back.

01:32:08.000 This is Paul Varlins.

01:32:09.000 And this is when people all look different.

01:32:11.000 Like, Marco looks like Rick the Model Martel.

01:32:15.000 He's like WWF. He's a perfect specimen of manhood.

01:32:19.000 Look at him.

01:32:20.000 Marco Huas was a perfect specimen of manhood at this time.

01:32:23.000 Look at him.

01:32:24.000 Beautiful physique and vicious leg kicks.

01:32:27.000 And Paul Varlance just couldn't take it after a while.

01:32:30.000 Look at his left leg.

01:32:31.000 It's just battered and bruised.

01:32:33.000 And Marco would just wait, and then if he went right leg forward, tacked that leg too. 0.97

01:32:37.000 So he's just fucking his leg up over and over again. 0.98

01:32:40.000 And Varlens was 300 pounds, man. 0.97

01:32:43.000 So he invented this in New York City.

01:32:45.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:32:46.000 He most certainly didn't invent it.

01:32:48.000 From kickboxing.

01:32:49.000 It's Muay Thai.

01:32:49.000 But Marco was a Vale Tudo fighter.

01:32:51.000 So he was a guy from Brazil.

01:32:53.000 And Vale Tudo is, I think it means anything goes.

01:32:56.000 And those guys all fought bare knuckle.

01:32:59.000 And they all fought in Speedos, just like that.

01:33:01.000 Like, the manliest men that have ever existed.

01:33:04.000 Wow.

01:33:05.000 Brazilian, you know, MMA champions that came over during those days, like Marco.

01:33:10.000 Marco's like the manliest man that's ever existed.

01:33:13.000 Dude, I like the old logo, too.

01:33:15.000 The old logo is so fire.

01:33:16.000 Oh, it was dope, right?

01:33:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:18.000 It feels like some Enter the Dragon shit, like the ultimate fighting championship. 0.97

01:33:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:33:24.000 Yeah, Marco Huas was a legend.

01:33:26.000 He used to teach in Beverly Hills, too.

01:33:29.000 No way.

01:33:30.000 He used to teach at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.

01:33:31.000 Yeah, during those days.

01:33:32.000 You ever trained with him?

01:33:32.000 No, I did not.

01:33:33.000 No, but I went down there once because Bas Rutten was doing something.

01:33:38.000 It was pretty cool.

01:33:39.000 They developed, I don't know if it's still around anymore, but they developed a real high-level, in the early days of MMA, a high-level camp down there.

01:33:48.000 Pedro Hizzo was working out there, and Bas Rutten, and a bunch of other really top-level guys, and it was in Beverly Hills.

01:33:55.000 It was pretty cool.

01:33:56.000 No, I'm gonna go home and watch the old tapes, because I used to love them, man.

01:34:00.000 Well, the thing about the UFC that's really weird is that it's the only sport in our lifetime that's gotten way better.

01:34:07.000 Like, the athletes of today, the fighters of today, in comparison to some of the people that fought in the very early days of the UFC, there's no comparison.

01:34:15.000 Whereas, like, if you compared football, you're a football fan, right?

01:34:18.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.000 How much different are people from the year 2005 to the year 2023?

01:34:27.000 They're not at the level of UFC. They're faster, they're stronger.

01:34:32.000 Is it slight improvements?

01:34:34.000 It's slight and gradual, and you can see it.

01:34:37.000 And basketball, too.

01:34:39.000 Steph Curry, I think, is the evolution of the superstar basketball player. 0.86

01:34:44.000 He can do shit nobody else could do before.

01:34:47.000 But then even in basketball, people are like, Jordan's the best ever.

01:34:50.000 So, UFC, you have dudes every year that are just like, it just keeps getting better and better and better.

01:34:57.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:34:57.000 I've never seen a sport like it, where the people that are the best right now, they're so much better than, like, 1993. Like, if you watch these early days, the guys are wearing geese, and they don't know what they're doing.

01:35:09.000 They're wearing shoes, no shoes, bare knuckle. 0.90

01:35:12.000 Yeah.

01:35:13.000 Maybe wear, like, knuckle covers.

01:35:14.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 Yeah, because through the span of the sport, people started to see a consensus develop of like, that works, that doesn't work.

01:35:22.000 And like in the beginning, people, you know, you have your beliefs, you have your opinions, but by the end, it's like the consensus usually wins out.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, the consensus usually wins out.

01:35:31.000 It's just like you find out what's effective with different styles.

01:35:36.000 And you realize, like, one style is totally effective if you do this, but totally ineffective if you do that.

01:35:43.000 Yeah.

01:35:43.000 And then people figure that out.

01:35:44.000 They start kicking calves.

01:35:45.000 They start taking people down.

01:35:47.000 They start making them stand up.

01:35:49.000 There's so many different things that you learn through the progression of these guys and trying to figure out what's, and girls, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't work.

01:35:58.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 And then the new people get to learn all that stuff in advance.

01:36:00.000 So the new people, like these new 17 and 18-year-olds, they're terrifying.

01:36:04.000 Yeah.

01:36:05.000 Because they're coming in, like, full ninja skills on the ground, like, wicked kickboxing skills standing up.

01:36:11.000 They could do everything.

01:36:12.000 Yeah, it's beautiful to watch, like, truth or, like, just the consensus went out in a microcosm like the UFC. And I just wish that, like, our greater life could be like that.

01:36:24.000 Because you see certain things went out, but then we can never agree.

01:36:26.000 Like, it's like, they won, right?

01:36:28.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:36:28.000 They didn't.

01:36:29.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:36:30.000 It didn't happen.

01:36:31.000 Somebody wrote, was it Bill Maher?

01:36:36.000 Maybe it was Bill Maher.

01:36:37.000 Someone was talking about how sports is our last meritocracy.

01:36:40.000 I saw it was the cover of an article or something like that.

01:36:43.000 I would agree.

01:36:44.000 Or the title of a video, perhaps. 0.82

01:36:46.000 I remember seeing it and going, well, there's certain sports where there's no room for bullshit and fighting is 100% one of them. 0.98

01:36:53.000 There's no room for bullshit. 0.97

01:36:55.000 It's like, it is what it is. 0.81

01:36:56.000 The books like Field of Dreams, Shoeless Joe Jackson, they kind of present the case that sports is the last or only meritocracy where there are rules and boundaries and truths shake out.

01:37:08.000 You shake the dice enough, the truth, it'll be there every time.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, and if you're all competing within a certain rule set and parameters, you really get to find out everything.

01:37:21.000 Whose mind works better?

01:37:23.000 Whose body works better? 0.97

01:37:24.000 Who's faster?

01:37:24.000 Who's meaner?

01:37:25.000 Who's this?

01:37:26.000 Who's that?

01:37:26.000 Who's more creative?

01:37:28.000 And they all express themselves through this game.

01:37:31.000 It's so important.

01:37:33.000 Yeah, I think you would like this book called Shoeless Joe Jackson and it became Field of Dreams.

01:37:38.000 But the book is really about the White Sox cheating scandal.

01:37:42.000 Oh, right.

01:37:44.000 And why this fictional character takes it so hard because it's like sports is the last bastion where truth shakes out.

01:37:51.000 So when you have cheating in sports, it's like the greatest lie to this guy.

01:37:57.000 It's dope. 0.55

01:37:58.000 It could apply to the UFC, you know.

01:38:00.000 That is true, right?

01:38:01.000 Like cheating to win in sports.

01:38:03.000 But then this, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

01:38:08.000 Like literally living in the Great Depression.

01:38:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:11.000 The fuck are you talking about, bro? 1.00

01:38:13.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:38:13.000 Chomping on a cigar. 1.00

01:38:14.000 You ain't cheating, you ain't trying, kid. 1.00

01:38:18.000 Fucking Canelo, man. 0.99

01:38:19.000 I don't know if he's cheating. 1.00

01:38:20.000 What do you mean?

01:38:21.000 I feel like Canelo juices.

01:38:23.000 But I'm a Triple G fan, so I'm going to say that ahead of time.

01:38:28.000 I just like Triple G. There's a lot of money on the line, and if I could get away with it, I would do it as well.

01:38:33.000 Some Tainted Beefs.

01:38:35.000 I think, well, he definitely got busted once for something.

01:38:38.000 But it could have been from Tainted Beef.

01:38:40.000 We don't know. 0.99

01:38:43.000 But it also could be that, you know, we should probably leave them the fuck alone and let them do whatever they want to do. 0.82

01:38:48.000 Do you want to see Manny Pacquiao fight or not? 0.98

01:38:50.000 I want to see him juiced up, fighting at 45 years of age, coming in with a full six-pack, lighting people on fire.

01:38:56.000 Why not?

01:38:57.000 Let him juice.

01:38:58.000 If he doesn't, you can't decide what he can and can't do.

01:39:04.000 Put on a show.

01:39:04.000 I agree.

01:39:05.000 We got science on our side.

01:39:06.000 I agree.

01:39:07.000 I'm just the Canelo hater because I'm a Triple G fan, but I agree.

01:39:11.000 It's like steroids don't make you a better boxer.

01:39:14.000 They definitely help.

01:39:15.000 They help.

01:39:16.000 They help.

01:39:16.000 They help a lot.

01:39:17.000 They help a lot, which is why they're illegal.

01:39:19.000 But I think that we should probably revisit that when it comes to older athletes for sure.

01:39:24.000 Because do you want to see people compete if they want to?

01:39:29.000 Especially in some sports where they're not getting hit.

01:39:34.000 I don't know what kind of testing they do for the NBA, but I would imagine that in order to compete at the highest level, what does it say in your report?

01:39:44.000 Major League Baseball stops testing for steroids after drug agreement with players expires.

01:39:49.000 Good move.

01:39:50.000 They want to put on a show.

01:39:52.000 Let's go. 1.00

01:39:53.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

01:39:54.000 Let's go back to knocking them into the fucking parking lot. 1.00

01:39:57.000 Put on a show. 0.99

01:39:58.000 I would think that if you wanted your body to work at its best, you would want to have, at your access, you would want to have access to all the best methods for recovery, for optimization, for healing, for dealing with injuries.

01:40:12.000 There's a lot of stuff, man.

01:40:14.000 And a lot of it is illegal.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:19.000 I mean, they don't even test anymore.

01:40:23.000 It's not good for the game.

01:40:24.000 Well, I like that basketball, they won't test for marijuana, because so many of those dudes play high.

01:40:30.000 Is that true, Jamie?

01:40:31.000 That's not just a rumor, is it? 0.99

01:40:32.000 During the pandemic, when the bubble started, they were like, alright, fuck this rule. 0.99

01:40:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:39.000 The thing about weed and anything that's feel is that it accentuates your feel.

01:40:45.000 Like you feel more, if that makes any sense at all.

01:40:49.000 Like when you work out on jiu-jitsu, like if you do jiu-jitsu while you're high...

01:40:55.000 It feels like you're more focused.

01:40:58.000 Like, the world doesn't exist.

01:41:00.000 You're just trying to not get choked or trying to move into a better position.

01:41:03.000 You're, like, completely locked into this thing.

01:41:05.000 It's very, very common that guys get high and do jiu-jitsu. 0.98

01:41:10.000 In fact, there's, like, a Brazilian jiu-jitsu championship, high rollers, where they all get high as fuck, and then they go in. 1.00

01:41:17.000 I gotta see this shit. 1.00

01:41:18.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:41:18.000 Well, play it for me. 1.00

01:41:19.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.000 Play it for him.

01:41:20.000 That's a good name.

01:41:21.000 It's my friend Matt's.

01:41:22.000 Actually, I think he sold it.

01:41:23.000 But the point is it's a great connection that marijuana and jiu-jitsu has always had because jiu-jitsu kind of operates a lot on feel.

01:41:32.000 Obviously, there's some people that don't agree with this.

01:41:34.000 There's a lot of people that think drugs are bad and a lot of people think that jiu-jitsu is for, you know, children love jiu-jitsu too.

01:41:40.000 We shouldn't introduce them to this.

01:41:41.000 And you're right.

01:41:42.000 You shouldn't do it if you're a kid.

01:41:44.000 You shouldn't do it until you're an adult.

01:41:45.000 But once you're an adult...

01:41:47.000 Kids don't do drugs.

01:41:48.000 Once you're an adult, it's the best one out of all of them.

01:41:52.000 And it's really good for certain sports.

01:41:53.000 It's great for apparently basketball, but it's great for pool.

01:41:57.000 When you play pool when you're high, you can feel where that ball's going.

01:42:02.000 It's weird.

01:42:03.000 You get into a zone.

01:42:04.000 It's very interesting because you get into what they call...

01:42:08.000 There's a thing about pool called dead stroke.

01:42:10.000 That's when you play so...

01:42:12.000 You know exactly where the ball's going.

01:42:14.000 You make it...

01:42:15.000 It feels like you can get more to that with weed.

01:42:20.000 This is incredible.

01:42:21.000 It's incredible.

01:42:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:42:24.000 So they have these jujitsu matches while they're baked as fuck. 0.99

01:42:29.000 It's really wild. 0.99

01:42:30.000 And the whole crowd gets to watch them.

01:42:33.000 That's Matt.

01:42:34.000 He's the guy who created it. 0.99

01:42:36.000 And these are like fucking cool crowds. 0.98

01:42:39.000 Nick Diaz is there. 0.99

01:42:40.000 The weed makes sense.

01:42:42.000 Now imagine if they were smoking meth.

01:42:45.000 That would be crazy.

01:42:47.000 That would be crazy.

01:42:48.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:42:49.000 The fucking glass rollers. 1.00

01:42:52.000 I've never done any kind of real amphetamine, but I'm very curious. 0.99

01:42:57.000 I'm very curious when I talk to people who like Adderall.

01:43:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:02.000 They're always telling you, dude, it's amazing.

01:43:05.000 Adderall, I mean, yeah.

01:43:06.000 Seems dangerous.

01:43:07.000 Adderall definitely helps.

01:43:11.000 Seems dangerous.

01:43:13.000 It is dangerous.

01:43:14.000 Like I can't imagine giving it to a kid because they prescribe it to like children with ADD. But I definitely remember I like took that.

01:43:23.000 Well, so when I was a kid, I got taken out of school.

01:43:25.000 I was having like issues.

01:43:26.000 I was saying funny stuff in class.

01:43:28.000 They took me to a therapist and they gave me a gifted test because she said, I think you might be like high IQ, whatever.

01:43:35.000 You're just doing weird stuff in school.

01:43:37.000 I failed the test the time test and she's like that doesn't make sense you have like better cognitive ability than that let me let me give you an untimed test and I did the untimed test and I scored off the charts and she's like you have issues with attention and time and I think she recommended that I was on medicine but my mom was a very like anti-medicine person but when I went to go take the LSAT just pause for a second yeah imagine A world where someone

01:44:08.000 tells you, hey man, you scored off the charts.

01:44:10.000 You need to get on medicine.

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 How crazy is that?

01:44:15.000 How crazy is the idea that you are not at a certain pace, like that anyone would consider medicating you?

01:44:23.000 Yeah, I never thought of that.

01:44:24.000 If you're scoring off the charts and they go, you have problems with time and attention.

01:44:32.000 And constraints, like social constraints, like boundaries.

01:44:36.000 Well, not just boundaries, but it seems like...

01:44:39.000 What they're saying is, if they're saying you have problems with time and attention, they want you to be a more studious worker.

01:44:47.000 They want you to focus more. 0.99

01:44:48.000 So they're going to give you some fucking speed. 0.98

01:44:51.000 They're going to give you something that really locks you in. 0.99

01:44:53.000 But meanwhile, you scored off the charts.

01:44:55.000 Like, you're just a laid-back, off-the-charts dude.

01:44:58.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 Isn't that okay?

01:44:59.000 And it's like, it's better for multiple choice.

01:45:02.000 Like, as a lemming, you just nailed it. 1.00

01:45:03.000 Imagine being a mother. 1.00

01:45:05.000 You know, like, my child is medicated.

01:45:08.000 Why is your child medicated? 1.00

01:45:09.000 Well, he's too fucking smart. 1.00

01:45:11.000 Scored off the charts, so they gave him speed. 0.99

01:45:13.000 Now he just makes weapons.

01:45:16.000 She tried to frame it as the doctor, I remember, being like, oh, he needs help with time and rules. 1.00

01:45:24.000 Bro, they were going to hook you up with the good shit. 0.99

01:45:26.000 Thank God my mom, though, stepped in. 1.00

01:45:28.000 Yeah, thank God your mom stepped in. 0.99

01:45:30.000 But then to do regular social shit, it helps. 0.99

01:45:33.000 Like an LSAT, like a standardized test, I scored significantly higher taking Adderall. 0.99

01:45:38.000 I could imagine. 1.00

01:45:39.000 I'm terrified of that shit. 1.00

01:45:40.000 I haven't tried it, but I want to. 1.00

01:45:42.000 But I don't.

01:45:44.000 Because I'm like, oh no.

01:45:46.000 Because someone is describing ADD or ADHD. They're just describing like what happens to them.

01:45:52.000 Like they really can't focus on things.

01:45:54.000 And then when they take Adderall, they focus.

01:45:58.000 It helps.

01:46:00.000 But is that a diagnosis?

01:46:02.000 Like the idea that there's like when we're talking about what drugs are legal and illegal, like that's a real drug.

01:46:08.000 That's a real one.

01:46:09.000 Yeah.

01:46:09.000 Right.

01:46:10.000 That's a real one.

01:46:12.000 I'm not against it, but I'm just flabbergasted at the ones that people without question allow, but the ones they don't allow.

01:46:22.000 Yeah, so the thing for me, this is my feeling about like cognitive disorders, like ADHD, things like, you know, of that nature.

01:46:29.000 Not too serious, but for every something like ADHD, That has a negative.

01:46:37.000 I did see a positive creatively.

01:46:40.000 There are days where we were doing overnight shoots on the movie Boogie, right?

01:46:45.000 And I had trouble staying up on the overnight shoots.

01:46:49.000 So I was popping ads when we flipped to the overnights, the first three to five days.

01:46:54.000 I will tell you, I was much more of a soldier.

01:46:58.000 Much more like...

01:46:59.000 Buy the book.

01:47:01.000 Do this.

01:47:01.000 But when I went back, I was like, I was overly positive about a few of those scenes.

01:47:06.000 Oh.

01:47:07.000 You know what it's like?

01:47:10.000 Showgirls.

01:47:13.000 Showgirls is a cocaine movie.

01:47:15.000 Yeah, the one with the girl from Saved by the Bell.

01:47:18.000 I don't know.

01:47:19.000 Yeah.

01:47:19.000 If they're doing cocaine when they're making Showgirls.

01:47:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:22.000 I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, if you were going to make a movie on coke and you thought it was good and everybody else was like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:47:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:47:30.000 That would be Showgirls. 0.99

01:47:31.000 Yeah.

01:47:32.000 Not saying they were on coke, but I am saying it seems like a movie made by people who are on coke.

01:47:38.000 Yo, definitely.

01:47:39.000 I look and I'm like, hmm, tone is a little different.

01:47:42.000 And I'm not the first to write. 0.98

01:47:43.000 I'm not, like, fucking stabbing myself. 0.95

01:47:45.000 Hari Kiri here, you know what I mean? 0.97

01:47:47.000 Like...

01:47:47.000 I think a lot of directors, they smoke weed or they do whatever.

01:47:50.000 On overnights, I took a few ads.

01:47:53.000 Does it make you have a distorted perception of how good the work is?

01:47:59.000 I felt it was slightly more positive than I normally am.

01:48:02.000 At first, I thought it was a benefit to be like, I'm more positive because people around me are always like, take it easy, relax.

01:48:09.000 But I felt I wasn't as critical as I usually was.

01:48:14.000 And I miss the critical lens.

01:48:17.000 I think as a director, you've got to stay critical.

01:48:20.000 Yeah, that's the beauty of the marijuana mindset, right?

01:48:25.000 Because you do get sort of self-critical and critical about your work in a more objective way.

01:48:31.000 You start looking at things and looking at cracks in it and holes in it.

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:35.000 Everything's a balance, but that's what I mean to say with the ADHD. I was like, for everything you say is negative about this, there's a positive.

01:48:42.000 And taking the medicine, there's a negative and a positive.

01:48:45.000 But me, personally, I don't want to make art on Adderall.

01:48:49.000 I probably wouldn't.

01:48:51.000 Do you have any concern that with what's going on with AI that it's gonna completely take the legs out from a lot of artists?

01:49:01.000 Like if you think about what they're doing with AI with the ability to write things it can write stories you could you could ask it to write a story for you it can do code you can get you can make it have fake images of things that have never really happened and they're kind of realistic Did you see the Megalodon one that I posted?

01:49:19.000 The CGI one?

01:49:20.000 Yeah, that was wild.

01:49:21.000 Put that up, because let's credit that dude, whoever makes it, because this is insane. 0.99

01:49:26.000 I don't know how the fuck this guy does this.

01:49:28.000 But there's a guy, whatever his Instagram page is, I reposted it yesterday. 0.99

01:49:34.000 He did a CGI of a Megalodon attacking a boat and then fucking up a helicopter. 0.53

01:49:40.000 It's so crazy how real it looks. 1.00

01:49:43.000 Look how goddamn... 0.99

01:49:45.000 Give me some volume on that so we can hear it. 0.98

01:49:46.000 Because he's got sound effects in it too.

01:49:48.000 Yeah, this is crazy.

01:49:50.000 This is nuts, man.

01:49:51.000 Look at this.

01:49:53.000 It's getting really close to looking real.

01:49:56.000 You can still tell it's AI, but it's getting close.

01:49:59.000 Yeah, it's getting very close.

01:50:01.000 Look at this.

01:50:03.000 I mean...

01:50:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:50:07.000 If this is a scene in a movie, you'd be like, holy shit. 0.99

01:50:12.000 It's close to movie call. 0.97

01:50:13.000 This looks like the Meg.

01:50:15.000 Yeah.

01:50:15.000 It's very close.

01:50:17.000 I'm personally...

01:50:19.000 That's amazing!

01:50:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:50:21.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.98

01:50:22.000 That's computer generated. 1.00

01:50:23.000 It's nuts.

01:50:25.000 It is...

01:50:26.000 The AI... I'm not threatened by it, but I feel like certain people, if you're like an assignment writer or an assignment director or a special effects guy, maybe...

01:50:37.000 I feel like the really good special effects people are not worried, but like, you know...

01:50:42.000 I think they should be worried.

01:50:44.000 The thing that AI can't replicate is not your actual physical voice sonically, but the way your brain is going to move and the choices you're going to make.

01:50:55.000 Your actual literary voice, I don't think the machine can replicate that.

01:51:02.000 But what if it can?

01:51:04.000 Here's the thing.

01:51:05.000 It's like what if this thing that we think is unique is really just like patterns and we could Accurately predict those patterns if we have a certain amount of your life history, we can keep it within a certain range You know like what if you what if you came home one day and your wife replaced you with a robot that looks exactly like you but it's programmed perfectly Do you know how weird that would be?

01:51:30.000 It wouldn't happen to you, but imagine being like some douchebag banker guy.

01:51:34.000 And you come home, and your wife goes, come on in, there's someone I want you to meet.

01:51:39.000 And she shuts the door, and then you come from around the corner, staring at you. 0.99

01:51:45.000 And she's like, I am tired of your bullshit, and I can just keep you around without having you around. 1.00

01:51:51.000 And he'll do whatever the fuck I say. 1.00

01:51:54.000 It's a horror movie. 0.99

01:51:55.000 So I think it is a horror movie, but it's also a double-edged sword, like with everything we're talking about today. 1.00

01:52:00.000 I think if it actually happened, I would be pretty pissed if there was a robot fucking my wife. 1.00

01:52:06.000 I would be pissed. 1.00

01:52:06.000 Bro. 1.00

01:52:07.000 Well.

01:52:11.000 He's you, but he never gets tired.

01:52:16.000 He doesn't even eat food.

01:52:17.000 Here's the thing I think about with people.

01:52:20.000 I think the most distinctive, specific thing that makes us who we are is your actual human spirit.

01:52:26.000 Now, for the AI to replicate that, that would mean that your human spirit has a signature and a code that can actually be codified.

01:52:36.000 That's what we're asking.

01:52:38.000 Can the human spirit be codified?

01:52:41.000 Or is it actually random and organic and unpredictable in this way that we've been thought to believe existentially?

01:52:50.000 So if the AI can replicate the human spirit and if the human spirit can be codified, there is a silver lining in it for me personally where I'm like, oh.

01:53:02.000 Then I'm not distinct.

01:53:04.000 And there is not, like, a destiny.

01:53:07.000 And I can just enjoy my life until I die because there's nothing unique about me.

01:53:15.000 And also you might already be in a simulation.

01:53:17.000 You might already be in some sort of a computer program.

01:53:21.000 It seems preposterous.

01:53:23.000 But the whole world should be preposterous to you.

01:53:26.000 It should seem crazy that we're on the brink of nuclear war.

01:53:30.000 It should seem crazy that we're counting down the days till the iPhone 15 comes out.

01:53:34.000 Super excited about its launch.

01:53:36.000 Like, what are we doing?

01:53:38.000 All of it's crazy.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, if each individual person could be...

01:53:41.000 Could be codified into like a QR code of your human spirit.

01:53:45.000 When we're asleep, in one night, a computer could simulate 3,000 years of human civilization.

01:53:52.000 Easily.

01:53:52.000 It could literally do that.

01:53:53.000 Probably more.

01:53:54.000 Because it would probably create a better computer that has even more capacity and more capability.

01:53:59.000 And then if it did that, then what's not to say, like, it can manipulate time and space?

01:54:04.000 Now, that's the next...

01:54:05.000 Can you manipulate time and space?

01:54:07.000 Of course you can.

01:54:08.000 You just have to figure out how.

01:54:09.000 And we're not close to that yet.

01:54:11.000 But if we're close to making something that figures it out, that makes more sense.

01:54:16.000 Right now we're manipulating existence.

01:54:18.000 Yeah.

01:54:19.000 So then the question is, can existence be boiled down to a code?

01:54:23.000 I think that's the question of this era, this generation right now.

01:54:27.000 And also the ability to travel to anywhere, the ability to rewrite your genetics, to reverse aging, stop it dead in its tracks, cure diseases, regrow limbs.

01:54:38.000 I mean, they're on the verge of some pretty wild physical discoveries too.

01:54:42.000 Yeah.

01:54:43.000 There's a lot of stuff that's happening simultaneously all over the world.

01:54:47.000 And then on top of that, AI is emerging.

01:54:50.000 And the people... 0.95

01:54:52.000 I mean, I don't know enough about this to really comment without just being silly. 0.81

01:54:55.000 But the people that don't know... 0.97

01:55:01.000 What's going to happen, who are educated in it, they're scaring the shit out of me.

01:55:05.000 The people that don't know, the people like...

01:55:07.000 See, why are you scared?

01:55:09.000 And not to be like, why are you scared?

01:55:10.000 I don't want to say it like that.

01:55:11.000 Say it!

01:55:12.000 No, for me, the thing... 1.00

01:55:13.000 Because I'm a bitch! 1.00

01:55:14.000 No, man, no. 1.00

01:55:15.000 It's not like that.

01:55:16.000 I meant it this way in that existentially, like, if we're meaningless, like, I think the way that people have organized society and tribalism, culture, everything, is to say there is a meaning to life.

01:55:28.000 Like, It's in your best interest to assume that there is a meaning to your life.

01:55:32.000 Sure.

01:55:32.000 To not assume that would be like, ooh, that could be sad.

01:55:36.000 But if your life actually doesn't have meaning, maybe it's even more fun.

01:55:42.000 Yeah.

01:55:43.000 Who knows?

01:55:44.000 There's a possibility to that.

01:55:46.000 And there's also the inevitable.

01:55:48.000 Whether you freak out or not, this stuff is moving in a very specific direction.

01:55:55.000 It's not moving in a place where it's going to slow down and go back to the Stone Age.

01:56:00.000 The only thing that's going to happen, if that happens, we're either going to blow ourselves up or we're going to get hit by something or there's going to be a supervolcano.

01:56:07.000 It's one of those things or something else, some other natural disaster, something big.

01:56:12.000 That's the only way we get out of this without becoming bionic.

01:56:18.000 The only way we get out of this without becoming cyborgs or without it taking over the world, it's like that's where it's going.

01:56:26.000 If I had to bet on it, like, what happens at the end?

01:56:29.000 I think we're gonna realize at, like, the final hour that there is meaning to life, that, like, You know, there was something to accomplish and there was something to do, but we were too late.

01:56:38.000 Because I do feel in my, at least my body and my emotions, that life is consistently bittersweet.

01:56:45.000 Like I always, that's usually the feeling I take away from experiences.

01:56:49.000 I'm like, it's bittersweet.

01:56:51.000 There's pleasure and pain.

01:56:52.000 There's agony and ecstasy.

01:56:53.000 And I think as a civilization, at the very end, we'll probably realize there was a lot of meaning that we didn't pay enough attention to.

01:57:02.000 Perhaps.

01:57:03.000 Perhaps.

01:57:04.000 I think that search for meaning also propels us in a very specific direction and all the things that we're interested in, whether it's acquiring new things, whether it's electronics, technology, the internet, exchange of information,

01:57:20.000 it's all powered by technology, all of it.

01:57:23.000 And the technology is what we really make.

01:57:26.000 Everything else is sort of like this motivating factor, this engine that creates revenue that makes the technology get born. 0.98

01:57:34.000 That's what the fuck is really going on.

01:57:35.000 We're making ultimate tech... 0.99

01:57:37.000 And the ultimate ultimate technology is artificial life.

01:57:41.000 Yeah, because I do feel there's even less time in this specific generation of the last five or six years devoted to meaning.

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 It's just, how do we move forward?

01:57:51.000 How do we legislate?

01:57:52.000 How do we create boundaries and rules and safe spaces, which is, like, this is all important stuff we're doing.

01:57:58.000 Yeah.

01:57:58.000 But it's like, what happened to the discussion of meaning?

01:58:02.000 And, like, when you were a kid, did you have hope?

01:58:06.000 Or, like, even let's say you're 20s, did you have hope for people and civilization?

01:58:10.000 When I was in my 20s, I barely thought about it because all I was thinking about was trying to make it as a comedian, and I was poor, and I was just trying to fucking do gigs, and I was so self-centered in the worst way in that.

01:58:24.000 Like, I didn't know what was going on in the world. 0.97

01:58:26.000 I didn't know shit about politics. 0.98

01:58:28.000 Like, it would have to be, like, on the news, in my face, oh my god, we're at war. 0.98

01:58:33.000 That's what it would have to be in my 20s.

01:58:35.000 And it wasn't until...

01:58:38.000 I mean, I started reading some books that got me into the Kennedy assassination. 0.87

01:58:43.000 I started reading some books that got me thinking about the MK Ultra shit, the things that they did with people with the LSD tests. 0.99

01:58:53.000 I was like, what the fuck is our history? 0.99

01:58:56.000 And I started getting into it then. 0.98

01:59:00.000 When I was a young kid, I can't imagine these kids that are politically active, that are like 17, 18 years old. 0.93

01:59:08.000 I didn't know jack shit about what was going on in the world in terms of politics. 1.00

01:59:12.000 See, I was one of those funny kids that read the newspaper and cared and then just skipped school and got high and was like, fuck this shit. 1.00

01:59:19.000 I had opinions and I had hope. 1.00

01:59:21.000 But now I feel the last few years, especially watching the pandemic from afar and watching everything happening, I was just like...

01:59:30.000 I don't know if people are able to discern truth from fake anymore.

01:59:36.000 No, I don't know either.

01:59:38.000 It's really hard.

01:59:39.000 Yeah, and that's where I started to lose hope because I was like, wow, things really seem clear to me and a certain...

01:59:48.000 It seems pretty clear what's going on, but there's a lot of argument about things that don't feel like we're grappling with actual truth and facts.

01:59:58.000 And that's when I started to lose hope.

02:00:01.000 And I'm like, I don't know.

02:00:02.000 I don't know what the direction is.

02:00:04.000 I think it always moves in a better direction, but it doesn't do it linearly.

02:00:08.000 It doesn't do it clean.

02:00:09.000 There's a lot of chaos going on.

02:00:12.000 It's like the climate.

02:00:15.000 Peaks and valleys, yeah.

02:00:16.000 Yeah, there's a lot of peaks and valleys with human growth.

02:00:20.000 I think we're ultimately always moving towards a better place, but sometimes there's corrections that have to happen and we have to figure out what we're doing.

02:00:28.000 And I think that as a group, collectively, the biggest fear that I have is that we just get swallowed up by something that we create.

02:00:36.000 That's the thing.

02:00:37.000 I mean, I feel like maybe it's inevitable.

02:00:39.000 Maybe that's just what we're here for anyway.

02:00:41.000 But I feel like that's what, oddly enough, that's what Ted Kaczynski believed. 0.99

02:00:46.000 That's what the fucking Unabomber believed. 0.99

02:00:48.000 He believed that technology was going to kill the human race. 0.99

02:00:51.000 Well, it makes sense as an aspect of, like, the feeling that we're our own worst enemy, and I wouldn't disagree with you.

02:00:57.000 Well, we definitely are, right?

02:00:59.000 Because if we stopped all war right now, just no one ever killed anyone ever again.

02:01:05.000 Just stop and everybody work together.

02:01:07.000 The only reason that's not possible is because of world leaders.

02:01:10.000 If it was just individual human beings that live together in cities, there's very rarely are there intercity wars, right?

02:01:17.000 There's not even interstate wars anymore.

02:01:20.000 We only tried that once.

02:01:21.000 Most of the time, it's someone over there and someone over there.

02:01:24.000 Like, why?

02:01:25.000 Why is that?

02:01:25.000 Because of world leaders.

02:01:27.000 It's all because of world leaders.

02:01:28.000 Inequality gaps.

02:01:29.000 Because if there's someone who can send someone else to fight for them, it'll happen.

02:01:34.000 Yes.

02:01:34.000 And they provide them with free college, Eddie.

02:01:37.000 Yeah, and then there's drone attacks. 0.90

02:01:40.000 I mean, the fact that you could just fucking fly robots into another country and launch missiles. 0.58

02:01:44.000 All of it's wild. 0.94

02:01:46.000 It's all wild and scary, and it's all being done without...

02:01:51.000 We're not there, right?

02:01:53.000 We don't know those people.

02:01:54.000 And they're in charge of our existence.

02:01:56.000 They're at the forefront of the most dangerous game in human existence.

02:02:02.000 They're the forefront of global thermonuclear war.

02:02:07.000 And that's the issue with everything is the idea of by proxy, right?

02:02:12.000 And like, I love watching like Yakuza films, like proxy wars.

02:02:16.000 Everything happens.

02:02:19.000 War.

02:02:19.000 Yakuza proxy wars.

02:02:21.000 It's because somebody...

02:02:23.000 There's an inequality gap between two classes of people. 0.57

02:02:28.000 And when you have someone that has so much to gain by sending someone in they do not give a fuck about to fight their war by proxy.

02:02:35.000 They're going to do it.

02:02:36.000 And like, let's take it out of war in the Yakuza so you can see it in like everyday life.

02:02:41.000 Restaurants.

02:02:42.000 If it's the chef and he's there and he's working like I was early days at Bauhaus, that's going to be the best version of it.

02:02:49.000 Now, if I take it out of there and I go teach someone who teaches someone to teach someone, inevitably, it's not going to be as good.

02:02:57.000 It's not going to be as good.

02:02:58.000 And if someone offers me that deal, I'll probably still take it if I feel like there's a level of quality it can maintain and stay at.

02:03:07.000 But the fact of the matter is, anything by proxy is gonna be shittier and there's gonna be injustice.

02:03:14.000 Writing a show, all these guys, they put their names on a show.

02:03:16.000 They're not actually writing it.

02:03:18.000 Then they have the little homie write it. 0.98

02:03:21.000 Very rarely do you accidentally hit on a little homie who's as good or better than you. 0.99

02:03:25.000 Well, you occasionally do, but the point is, like, it's a hustle.

02:03:28.000 It's a money hustle at that point.

02:03:30.000 It's not really like a passion project.

02:03:32.000 And it's feudalism.

02:03:34.000 Yeah.

02:03:35.000 If we only forced the sons of millionaires to go to war...

02:03:43.000 There wouldn't be any.

02:03:44.000 It was done, if they did it that way, if they did it by income, and the wealthiest people's sons were the first to get drafted overseas.

02:03:52.000 Do you imagine how quickly they'd stop war?

02:03:55.000 Yep. 0.99

02:03:55.000 They're like, what the fuck are you up to? 0.99

02:03:56.000 But that makes sense. 0.99

02:03:57.000 What's going on? 0.99

02:03:57.000 You gonna kill my Billy? 0.99

02:03:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:58.000 Because they have the most to gain. 1.00

02:04:00.000 Exactly.

02:04:01.000 So why shouldn't they risk the most?

02:04:03.000 But it's just crazy that these systems have always sort of existed.

02:04:08.000 These systems and classes of people, people that were willing to send people to war and then people that are never going to war on their own.

02:04:17.000 They're like, I'm not going.

02:04:18.000 But they'll send people and they make decisions and they do it behind desks.

02:04:22.000 They do it in offices.

02:04:23.000 And it's always existed like that. 0.99

02:04:25.000 It's fucking wild. 0.99

02:04:27.000 And there's no consequences to their decisions. 0.99

02:04:29.000 They don't give it the proper care because that blood is never going to splash onto their desk.

02:04:33.000 That's wild.

02:04:35.000 By proxy is the issue.

02:04:38.000 And democracy is by proxy.

02:04:43.000 We need the aliens.

02:04:44.000 We need the aliens!

02:04:45.000 We need them to come down.

02:04:46.000 We need the aliens! 1.00

02:04:47.000 They have to come down and they have to just go, listen, you guys are just fucked. 1.00

02:04:51.000 You're not gonna sort this out. 1.00

02:04:53.000 Stop.

02:04:53.000 We need someone from another planet to come and be like, this is the truth.

02:04:57.000 Stop denying it.

02:04:58.000 Don't talk your way around it.

02:04:59.000 What do you think would happen?

02:05:01.000 Like, imagine if...

02:05:03.000 Russia moves nukes into Belarus, right?

02:05:06.000 Which is supposedly happening.

02:05:08.000 And then, one day, there's some sort of a critical exchange.

02:05:13.000 And they go, that's it.

02:05:15.000 That's enough.

02:05:16.000 And they just... 1.00

02:05:20.000 A giant ship hovering over the battlefield where everybody's like, holy fuck. 0.98

02:05:28.000 And you realize that this thing is from another planet. 0.97

02:05:30.000 It sends out a bunch of satellite ships and they come down and these things get out.

02:05:36.000 It's not far from reality.

02:05:39.000 Would you do it that way if you were an alien or would you force these dummies to create artificial intelligence that eventually takes them over? 0.82

02:05:45.000 Would you conquer them that way?

02:05:47.000 If you looked at these, like imagine.

02:05:50.000 I just want to think about it this way.

02:05:52.000 Imagine if we went to some sort of a jungle and someone had given the chimpanzees missiles. 0.99

02:06:01.000 And the chimpanzees just fucking launching missiles. 1.00

02:06:04.000 We'd be like, yo, we gotta kill those chimpanzees. 1.00

02:06:06.000 They're fucking shooting at planes. 1.00

02:06:08.000 They're shooting at boats. 1.00

02:06:09.000 We gotta kill them. 1.00

02:06:10.000 They're too wild. 1.00

02:06:12.000 They would come in and kill them, right? 0.99

02:06:14.000 I bet they would do that with us. 0.99

02:06:16.000 If we were a threat, they would absolutely kill us. 0.99

02:06:18.000 And the fact that they haven't killed us means we're clowns. 0.99

02:06:22.000 We're absolute clowns. 0.94

02:06:24.000 My brother's feeling is, and he's smarter than me and he reads much more alien stuff, I was like, yo, if they're here, why haven't they killed us? 0.99

02:06:31.000 He goes, they don't care.

02:06:33.000 He's like, I think they're doing research.

02:06:35.000 And I'm like, alright, if they're doing research, then they're just going to let us die.

02:06:39.000 And they're probably watching us on screens just laughing. 1.00

02:06:43.000 Like, yo, look at these idiots. 1.00

02:06:44.000 Look at these idiots. 1.00

02:06:46.000 I would imagine we're pretty funny. 1.00

02:06:47.000 They can't even drink water in Philadelphia.

02:06:49.000 Yeah.

02:06:51.000 I know, right?

02:06:52.000 It's like Housewives for them. 1.00

02:06:53.000 Like, yo, check out Housewives Philadelphia. 0.92

02:06:55.000 They don't got water now.

02:06:57.000 You know?

02:06:58.000 You should have seen what happened in East Palestine.

02:07:00.000 Like, the aliens are watching us like bravo.

02:07:04.000 Probably.

02:07:06.000 I bet they're probably monitoring nuclear sites.

02:07:09.000 Because one of the things that has been reported in the past, and again, you don't know if it's true or not.

02:07:15.000 This brings us back to what we were originally talking about.

02:07:18.000 You don't know if you're getting bullshitted.

02:07:20.000 You don't know if it really happened. 0.96

02:07:22.000 If you weren't there and they don't have any physical evidence for you to watch or see or touch, even physical evidence you can watch, we know that could be horseshit.

02:07:30.000 But most likely it's not if it comes from official channels.

02:07:33.000 But, like, it doesn't mean they don't exist.

02:07:37.000 Like, even if some of you think that it's nonsense, you think it's silly, that might be part of the plan. 0.78

02:07:41.000 Part of the plan might be make it seem silly.

02:07:44.000 That way you could just be around all the time.

02:07:47.000 And people talk about it, and even the Pentagon talks about it.

02:07:50.000 Nobody cares?

02:07:51.000 Like, well, okay, you hit the right frequency then.

02:07:54.000 Yeah, and that means they're a much more evolved civilization than us.

02:07:58.000 Yeah, they're playing a game.

02:08:00.000 They're playing chess.

02:08:00.000 Yeah.

02:08:02.000 They recognize that we have a real susceptibility to groupthink.

02:08:07.000 And if you can trick people into thinking that UFOs are silly, oh God, what do you think about other life forms from another planet? 0.98

02:08:15.000 So silly. 0.98

02:08:16.000 What a great way to trick people. 0.99

02:08:18.000 If you could do that and you did exist, you could make it so that talking about you carries a social consequence.

02:08:25.000 So if you're in polite society, right, now, nowadays in 2023, you can have a conversation about UFOs because the New York Times wrote an article about it.

02:08:34.000 You could say, did you see that?

02:08:35.000 Did you see that article in the New York Times?

02:08:37.000 Did you see the Pentagon had a discussion?

02:08:39.000 So, yo, what if Woody Allen is an alien?

02:08:42.000 Because no one writes faster than this guy.

02:08:44.000 Nobody...

02:08:45.000 He's made so many good films.

02:08:46.000 He's done terrible things, and he survives, and he's among us, and it's just like, is Woody Allen an alien?

02:08:52.000 Like, how did he figure out...

02:08:53.000 That might be the worst take I've ever heard from you.

02:08:54.000 Bro, but what is the exact tone?

02:08:56.000 Like, it's like, look at the things he's accused of doing, and he walks among us.

02:09:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:09:03.000 Yeah.

02:09:04.000 Like, he's uncancellable.

02:09:06.000 Well, not really, because I don't know if actors are as willing to work with him anymore, and I don't know what kind of distribution...

02:09:15.000 How has that affected his films and what he does and what he's allowed to do?

02:09:21.000 I don't know.

02:09:21.000 His own family's come out against him, and he's still out here.

02:09:26.000 Even Bill Cosby had to go to court, at least.

02:09:29.000 Yeah.

02:09:30.000 At least.

02:09:31.000 And he's still out.

02:09:32.000 He came back outside.

02:09:33.000 Yeah.

02:09:36.000 It's dark.

02:09:37.000 Yeah.

02:09:38.000 Woody Allen as an alien is dark.

02:09:40.000 Well, I don't think he's an alien.

02:09:42.000 I think he's just a flawed human being.

02:09:44.000 But what I guess I'm saying is the concept that you're saying is they're among us and they've made themselves a laughingstock and a joke so as to avert...

02:09:53.000 I don't even know if necessarily they're among us.

02:09:56.000 I don't know if the things that people are seeing...

02:09:58.000 I don't know.

02:09:59.000 I think those are probably...

02:10:00.000 I'm just guessing.

02:10:02.000 I shouldn't even say probably.

02:10:03.000 But I think those could be drones.

02:10:05.000 I think they could be super sophisticated drones that we don't understand because they've done all of this science in a way where they never made it public.

02:10:16.000 That's not...

02:10:17.000 That's not...

02:10:22.000 Likely, but it is possible.

02:10:24.000 It's one of those things where you're like, man, you don't know.

02:10:26.000 Like, if they were very clever and they started doing this at a certain point in time in history, and they were almost like a movie, where they had this, like, secret laboratory where they hired the top physicists and they gave them some fake jobs. 0.88

02:10:37.000 Like, oh, I'm in charge of fertilizer reproduction at this, you know, this chemical plant bullshit.

02:10:42.000 This guy is, he's over there back-engineering UFOs. 0.97

02:10:45.000 You know, like, what if... 0.68

02:10:48.000 What if they really do have some crash shit that they found in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, and they've been trying to figure out how to back-engineer that, and they're getting closer? 0.82

02:10:57.000 Dude, I just want to meet Optimus Prime. 0.97

02:10:59.000 Like, Optimus Prime looks like the illest alien.

02:11:02.000 Like, I just hope that it's Optimus Prime. 0.99

02:11:04.000 That would be fucking sick. 0.98

02:11:05.000 I want a little tiny gray dude that can read minds. 1.00

02:11:07.000 I want the traditional. 1.00

02:11:09.000 I don't want the bullshit, new age, fucking robot. 1.00

02:11:14.000 I want a truck. 1.00

02:11:14.000 Sam Wickwitty. 1.00

02:11:17.000 What if it was like Woody from Toy Story?

02:11:20.000 What if that's where the aliens are? 0.99

02:11:21.000 They come down here and they're like, what the fuck, Woody? 1.00

02:11:24.000 Woody, you're the head alien? 0.99

02:11:26.000 But that's like that scene in Contact.

02:11:28.000 Remember in that Jodie Foster movie?

02:11:30.000 Did you ever see Contact?

02:11:31.000 Yeah, long time ago.

02:11:32.000 When the end of the movie, I believe it's her day, comes to her as her dad.

02:11:36.000 I think the alien tells her, I'm pretty sure it's her dad, and it tells her, like they're walking together, it's like, this whatever we are is too much for you to handle, so I've shown myself in this form.

02:11:50.000 Yeah.

02:11:51.000 It's a heavy scene, dude.

02:11:54.000 It's a heavy scene.

02:11:56.000 It's a really good movie, man.

02:11:58.000 Do you remember that movie?

02:11:59.000 Yo, I do.

02:12:00.000 I haven't seen it in a while.

02:12:02.000 It was written by...

02:12:03.000 The original novel was by Carl Sagan.

02:12:06.000 And they converted it into one of the best, like, alien movies of all time.

02:12:13.000 Because it was like an intellectual, dramatic movie about contact with an alien race and how it was probably going to present itself.

02:12:23.000 And it was very, very novel. 0.97

02:12:25.000 Because, you know, Carl Sagan was fucking brilliant. 1.00

02:12:27.000 Also, huge pothead. 1.00

02:12:29.000 Carl Sagan, huge pothead.

02:12:32.000 And the movies be predicting the reality, like...

02:12:35.000 That one.

02:12:35.000 That one is probably...

02:12:36.000 I gotta watch this.

02:12:37.000 It's probably how they would do it. 0.99

02:12:39.000 If they were going to make contact with you, why would they freak you out and come looking like some fucking weird stick figure with a giant gray head? 0.98

02:12:46.000 That was her dad, right? 0.99

02:12:47.000 Yeah.

02:12:48.000 Woody Allen. 1.00

02:12:50.000 You motherfucker, you don't want to let it go. 1.00

02:12:52.000 Why are you so hanging on to this? 1.00

02:12:54.000 Why are you hanging on to this, Eddie? 1.00

02:12:59.000 This is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

02:13:01.000 It is ridiculous. 1.00

02:13:02.000 I love putting it on the ridiculous point. 0.98

02:13:04.000 Maybe that's right, though. 0.72

02:13:05.000 But look at it this way.

02:13:07.000 Like, what a better way to hide yourself.

02:13:09.000 Like, no one's coming to him for wisdom.

02:13:11.000 No one's coming to him to think about how to run the world.

02:13:14.000 What if he's amongst us, just making these silly movies, but really just gathering data?

02:13:19.000 Yeah, and giving us the deepest insights into our souls for these films.

02:13:23.000 And you know why I really like Woody Allen as an alien? 0.99

02:13:25.000 Because I do feel if the aliens came, they would be fucking Knicks fans. 0.99

02:13:29.000 That's why, really, Woody Allen, alien. 0.99

02:13:34.000 The Knicks are the greatest.

02:13:36.000 If you say so.

02:13:41.000 Are you a Celtics fan?

02:13:42.000 Do you watch any?

02:13:43.000 I was the most casual Celtics fan of all time when I lived in Boston.

02:13:49.000 If they won, I was like, yay.

02:13:51.000 But I don't have time for sports.

02:13:54.000 I've never met a casual...

02:13:55.000 You're the only casual Celtics fan I know.

02:13:57.000 Well, this is when I lived there.

02:13:59.000 I'm pretty sure...

02:14:00.000 Did I go to one game?

02:14:01.000 I think I went to one game at the Boston Garden when I was a kid.

02:14:06.000 I definitely went to a hockey game too, but it was like sports to me were just like, I don't know.

02:14:12.000 Yeah, bing bong. 0.62

02:14:15.000 They get crazy.

02:14:18.000 See, if you were an alien, you're like, yo, these are the people I want to be around.

02:14:23.000 That guy looks like an alien.

02:14:25.000 You don't want to be walking through them with a Lakers t-shirt on.

02:14:28.000 That's what you don't want.

02:14:29.000 They will beat you to death. 1.00

02:14:30.000 That's what's fucked up. 1.00

02:14:31.000 Those guys are in a war. 0.99

02:14:33.000 They're in a war with another team.

02:14:35.000 And the fans of another team, they'll get very hostile.

02:14:38.000 You have to be very careful.

02:14:39.000 Like, mark my words, man.

02:14:41.000 Aliens, if they arrive in a hundred years, ask them, who's the greatest basketball free?

02:14:45.000 They're going to say the Knicks.

02:14:46.000 They got good taste.

02:14:47.000 I believe you.

02:14:49.000 They're getting crazy, though.

02:14:50.000 Look at this guy. 0.94

02:14:50.000 Let's get ready to fight some people. 0.94

02:14:52.000 They're ready to fight people.

02:14:54.000 I love that clip.

02:14:55.000 I don't have time for sports, man.

02:14:56.000 That was after double OT when we beat the Celtics.

02:14:58.000 Season opener.

02:15:00.000 I feel like sports swallows up a lot of your time.

02:15:03.000 If you really get into sports, you've got baseball to watch, football to watch, basketball to watch.

02:15:08.000 I had to give up multiple sports for my wife. 1.00

02:15:10.000 Because I bamboozled her the first six months we were together.

02:15:13.000 I didn't watch sports.

02:15:14.000 You faked it.

02:15:15.000 Yeah.

02:15:15.000 I flipped it and reversed it.

02:15:16.000 And then you slowly introduced it.

02:15:17.000 Yup.

02:15:18.000 Nice.

02:15:18.000 And then, because also she likes UFC. So I was like, oh, okay, okay, get you.

02:15:23.000 And she's Greek.

02:15:23.000 So Cambosos was like big last year fighting boxing.

02:15:27.000 So we could do UFC. We could do boxing.

02:15:30.000 And I was like, the one thing I care about is the Knicks.

02:15:32.000 Then I brought in the commanders. 0.99

02:15:33.000 And she's now like, yo, I'm going to kill you. 0.99

02:15:35.000 She's from Australia? 0.99

02:15:36.000 Yeah.

02:15:37.000 No, she's from...

02:15:38.000 She's Greek.

02:15:39.000 She's Greek.

02:15:40.000 She's born in Boston, though.

02:15:41.000 Okay.

02:15:42.000 Oh, that's right.

02:15:43.000 Because I was thinking Kambosis. 0.51

02:15:45.000 Yeah, no, Kambosis is Greek.

02:15:47.000 Yeah, there's been a shit ton of good fighters that came out of Greece.

02:15:53.000 Really?

02:15:54.000 Yeah.

02:15:55.000 Yeah, there's been Greek kickboxers, Greek jiu-jitsu athletes.

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:04.000 Imagine, like, living in a place where they invented democracy.

02:16:09.000 Like, you're walking around Greece, you're like, you guys invented democracy right here?

02:16:14.000 Sports.

02:16:14.000 You invented Pankration.

02:16:19.000 Meeting her and her fam, I'm like, oh, you guys are Chinese people of the West.

02:16:24.000 You claim everything.

02:16:25.000 You said you invent.

02:16:26.000 And it's true. 0.56

02:16:28.000 And you have your own astrological system.

02:16:30.000 I'm like, yo, y'all are the light-skinned answer to... 1.00

02:16:33.000 Well, y'all are Western Chinese people to me.

02:16:37.000 Have you ever heard of a book called The Immortality Key?

02:16:41.000 No.

02:16:41.000 It's a book by this guy, Brian Murorescu, and it's all about ancient Greece.

02:16:46.000 And it's all about these enlightenment ceremonies that they were doing.

02:16:52.000 And they realized over time, these researchers did, that What they were doing was they were drinking wine that was laced with ergot, which has psychedelic properties.

02:17:04.000 So ergot, which is very much like LSD. So it's real similar.

02:17:08.000 So they were tripping balls.

02:17:10.000 So this is where they invented all these things. 0.77

02:17:12.000 This is where they had the Lucinian mysteries.

02:17:15.000 Like all these different people from all over the world would come to have these experiences with these people and drink this wine.

02:17:22.000 And that's what they were doing. 0.98

02:17:23.000 They were tripping balls. 0.90

02:17:25.000 And that's how they invented everything. 0.98

02:17:26.000 That's how they invented democracy. 0.59

02:17:27.000 They invented so many aspects of society.

02:17:30.000 Yeah.

02:17:30.000 And so many philosophers were a part of that that made quotes that we still use today.

02:17:39.000 Yeah, the foundation of our language, the foundation of Western thought, it's all Greek.

02:17:45.000 Foundation of democracy.

02:17:46.000 It's really wild.

02:17:47.000 They did all that while they were most likely high on some sort of a psychedelic.

02:17:53.000 And Brian Murrow-Rescue in this book makes the case so convincingly and academically that Harvard opened up like a field of study in looking into ancient Greece and psychedelic drugs.

02:18:08.000 So this whole Eleusinian mystery thing, this like Eleusinian school that they would, all that was like, these people were most likely at least some time while they were there tripping balls.

02:18:20.000 See, for me, when I was in high school, I was really interested in reading about 5th century philosophy and thought.

02:18:27.000 Because in the 5th century, you get Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Lao Tzu, Buddha, you know, all of those things.

02:18:35.000 And when you compare them, at the end, everyone...

02:18:40.000 In those civilizations tends to agree on the idea of order and balance.

02:18:44.000 Feng Shui, like yin and yang. 0.93

02:18:46.000 That there's two sides to everything.

02:18:48.000 And that is the foundation of my value system because I'm like, yo, that was interesting.

02:18:52.000 That was a century where people called a spade a spade and was like, you have to stay even and balanced.

02:18:59.000 Yeah.

02:18:59.000 There's two sides to everything, you know.

02:19:02.000 And when you compare the philosophy, when you do a comparative look at the philosophies, they do come to like some similar conclusions from a macro perspective.

02:19:12.000 Yeah, I think most human beings, when intelligent human beings get together to debate ideas over a long period of time...

02:19:20.000 As long as they're entering into this thing, not with the desire to formulate propaganda, but to actually get to the truth, they come to similar conclusions.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, if you eliminate ego and the desire to win, take that out, you have similar.

02:19:36.000 And that's, with society, it would be really cool if we took out the desire to win.

02:19:40.000 Because I think that's just, you can't... 0.96

02:19:43.000 It's fucking us up. 1.00

02:19:44.000 Yeah, it's always going to fuck you up. 0.98

02:19:46.000 And I think it's because of what we talked about before, that every person should have something that they're doing that's difficult to do. 0.58

02:19:53.000 Because if you don't have something that you're doing that's difficult to do, you try to look for competition in everything.

02:19:57.000 You try to look for competition socially with your neighbors. 0.99

02:20:00.000 You try to look for competition with this bitch. 1.00

02:20:04.000 Everybody's got a thing they're doing. 1.00

02:20:06.000 It gets in the way.

02:20:08.000 And if you do something where you compete against yourself and your own will, I think it quenches that. 0.91

02:20:14.000 Yeah, and like you were saying, the people that are like, fuck yeah, America's the best, like they're holding us back. 0.95

02:20:20.000 It's pride. 0.98

02:20:21.000 Every country feeds you pride as a drug to just like, because then they can manipulate you if we have collective pride. 1.00

02:20:29.000 And also, America's the fucking best, so you can suck it. 1.00

02:20:33.000 Everybody can suck it. 1.00

02:20:34.000 See? 1.00

02:20:34.000 It's fun to say. 1.00

02:20:35.000 That's part of the problem.

02:20:36.000 It is fun to say.

02:20:38.000 That's fun to say.

02:20:39.000 America's the best. 1.00

02:20:40.000 You can suck it. 1.00

02:20:41.000 We're the dumbest for sure. 1.00

02:20:43.000 We're also the smartest. 1.00

02:20:45.000 I say one China just because it sounds funny. 0.96

02:20:47.000 You know what I mean?

02:20:48.000 One China. 0.91

02:20:49.000 One China. 0.91

02:20:50.000 There's guys that play.

02:20:51.000 It's interesting.

02:20:52.000 There's these guys that play pool.

02:20:54.000 Out of Taiwan. 0.87

02:20:55.000 But I think they have to write Chinese Taipei.

02:20:58.000 I think it's one of those deals, right?

02:20:59.000 Yeah.

02:21:00.000 And the Ko brothers.

02:21:01.000 They're two of the best pool players in the world to come out of Taiwan.

02:21:05.000 Yeah.

02:21:06.000 It's Ko Ping Chung and...

02:21:08.000 What's his brother's name?

02:21:10.000 Ko Ping...

02:21:11.000 Ko Ping Chung and Ko Ping Yi.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:16.000 Ko Ping Yi and Ko Ping Chung.

02:21:18.000 So Ko Ping Yi and Ko Ping Chung.

02:21:20.000 Two of the best pool players on earth and they come out of Taiwan and they were like kind of secluded from the pool scene for a couple years because of COVID because everything got very strict with COVID and travel but I'm pretty sure they have to write Chinese Taipei on their shirts,

02:21:36.000 right?

02:21:36.000 Yeah.

02:21:36.000 So does it say that on like if you have a passport and you pass through?

02:21:40.000 Do they mark it as Taiwan or do they mark it as Chinese Taipei?

02:21:43.000 So if I fly with a Taiwanese passport, it says Taiwan.

02:21:47.000 It does say Taiwan.

02:21:48.000 But that's the thing.

02:21:50.000 It's the agreement.

02:21:50.000 It's like an in-the-house agreement.

02:21:52.000 You're your own country, but when you talk to white people, say our name first. 0.85

02:21:57.000 Like, call me daddy.

02:21:58.000 It's all pride. 0.99

02:22:00.000 It's all fucking crazy. 0.99

02:22:02.000 That's a hilarious take. 0.99

02:22:03.000 Do you think that China will ever invade Taiwan?

02:22:07.000 Is that a fear?

02:22:09.000 When you're thinking about Russia invading Ukraine, do you think that could ever take place where China invades Taiwan?

02:22:15.000 Okay.

02:22:17.000 Who's the woman in Florida that killed her own kid? 1.00

02:22:21.000 Yeah, Casey Anthony.

02:22:23.000 Yeah.

02:22:24.000 If you have a Casey Anthony leader in China, potentially in the future, yeah.

02:22:30.000 Not this guy.

02:22:31.000 This guy's not...

02:22:32.000 He doesn't want to kill...

02:22:36.000 Chinese-Taiwanese people.

02:22:37.000 That's the thing, is that after 1950, so much of that country is Chinese people that lost the Civil War, led by Chiang Kai-shek into Taiwan.

02:22:48.000 The question would be akin to, like, would we ever, like, attack the South, you know?

02:22:56.000 Interesting.

02:22:57.000 And I just don't think China has it in its heart to, like...

02:23:03.000 Do it.

02:23:04.000 And I don't I really do think Taiwan is used as just this is like a sore spot.

02:23:11.000 So do you think it's used to to like, like the West uses it to try to make China look bad in some way or to try to show that there's some sort of a A conflict between Taiwan and China and that we side with Taiwan?

02:23:24.000 Is it like a political ploy?

02:23:26.000 I really do think America and the other Western forces use Taiwan as like an X. Like you hold it up and you're like, I just went out with her.

02:23:37.000 You know?

02:23:38.000 Oh no.

02:23:39.000 It's like Kim Kardashian with Pete Davidson.

02:23:43.000 Taiwan's Pete Davidson.

02:23:49.000 That's hilarious.

02:23:50.000 That's a hilarious comparison, but I see what you're saying. 0.77

02:23:52.000 And Kanye got all crazy and mad.

02:23:54.000 China gets mad. 0.90

02:23:56.000 You're making us look bad.

02:23:57.000 Yeah.

02:23:58.000 I get it.

02:23:59.000 But I don't think they're actually going to do it.

02:24:01.000 It's just a lot of mumbo-jumbo.

02:24:04.000 And people make money off of it.

02:24:05.000 They do make money off of it.

02:24:07.000 One of the things that's interesting is that one of the things that people are worried about is China invading X. China taking over the world.

02:24:15.000 But then if you ask them, like...

02:24:17.000 When has China ever invaded anybody?

02:24:20.000 Like, it's only been really too bad, right?

02:24:22.000 Not since the wall.

02:24:24.000 You know, like, straight up, like, the imperialistic intentions ended since the wall.

02:24:29.000 And it's the pot calling the kettle black.

02:24:33.000 America's the one that'll go into other countries. 0.83

02:24:35.000 It's pretty crazy.

02:24:35.000 China'll do business with you, you know?

02:24:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:38.000 Like, America will come rape and pillage. 1.00

02:24:40.000 China will hire you as an escort. 1.00

02:24:42.000 Right.

02:24:44.000 Well, China has so many mineral areas, so many mineral rights, and they have mines in the Congo where they're pulling out cobalt.

02:24:53.000 They're controlling very valuable natural resources.

02:24:58.000 The whole thing has been very clever because they exist in a completely controlled system.

02:25:03.000 They have control over their system.

02:25:05.000 They have control over their people.

02:25:07.000 And that's why this country is kind of at a disadvantage.

02:25:09.000 We let them buy real estate.

02:25:11.000 They're like, yeah, go ahead, buy that building.

02:25:12.000 They're buying all the great buildings.

02:25:14.000 It's going to be literal China. 0.94

02:25:15.000 They'll own it all.

02:25:16.000 Or Saudi Arabia or somebody else will own it.

02:25:20.000 Meanwhile, how much can you buy?

02:25:22.000 If you're an American business, can you go over and buy giant skyscrapers in China?

02:25:26.000 Can you start running them?

02:25:27.000 You have to do a lot of money laundering and yeah, like I could probably give you a guy.

02:25:33.000 Yeah, but it's very difficult.

02:25:35.000 It's very difficult.

02:25:36.000 America just has this identity crisis because we've told all the immigrants we're this benevolent, colossus, this place, you know, come, we're the world's fucking super police, we're the cops, we take care of everyone.

02:25:48.000 When it's like, yo, we're a business, just like, just do what's good for it.

02:25:52.000 You know, like, And if you start to look at it that way, decisions become much easier.

02:25:58.000 But right now, it's a country that serves too many masters internally within itself because you're serving business, but you won't admit it.

02:26:08.000 You're serving business, you won't admit it, and also...

02:26:12.000 What is a border?

02:26:14.000 What are we doing?

02:26:15.000 Are you allowed to come in if you sneak in, or do we have to turn you back?

02:26:19.000 Is it okay if it comes from the north, but not okay from the south?

02:26:23.000 What about from the sides? 0.61

02:26:25.000 At what point in time do we decide that you can't take more people, or at what point in time do we decide to let all the walls drop and everybody go wherever the fuck they want, everywhere, let's even the whole world out?

02:26:37.000 That's the scary one. 0.82

02:26:38.000 That's the scary one. 0.98

02:26:40.000 Anybody can go anywhere, shut the fuck up, And then you're going to have madness until it settles down. 0.99

02:26:45.000 So like many generations. 0.99

02:26:47.000 We don't want to like rip the band-aid off.

02:26:48.000 We want to go like just like, eh, eh, eh.

02:26:52.000 We don't want to, whoa, let's open it all up.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, opening it all up would be a real issue for a little bit.

02:26:59.000 But I think in the long run, if everything was open, if everybody could go everywhere, probably be better for human beings.

02:27:08.000 The only problem is some spots are better.

02:27:10.000 Yeah.

02:27:11.000 Yeah, some spots are better.

02:27:12.000 And here's the thing.

02:27:13.000 I would be interested in opening it all up because I'm interested in the seeking of truth.

02:27:18.000 Global mobility would be amazing.

02:27:20.000 You would lose local culture.

02:27:23.000 Certain things would become extinct.

02:27:25.000 You would lose the idea of federalism.

02:27:27.000 But if we look at the UFC... You would come to some agreements and truths.

02:27:32.000 It would be like a UFC of life.

02:27:34.000 Yeah, because what's the UFC? It would probably take as long, too.

02:27:37.000 It would probably take about 20 years to really figure it out until you get, like, an elite, high-level, you know, modern 2023 champion.

02:27:45.000 Because the UFC is literally Enter the Dragon when it first started.

02:27:48.000 Everyone from every country, bring your martial arts, try it out.

02:27:51.000 I like what you're saying.

02:27:52.000 It's so crazy, but I think it makes sense.

02:27:55.000 Yeah.

02:27:56.000 Because, like, the best way to live would work out.

02:27:59.000 But the problem is, if we don't have, like, a real clear set of rules, if you just open up the borders, then people are just gonna, like, just take over everything.

02:28:08.000 People storm through cities and do whatever the fuck they want, and there's no cops anyway.

02:28:12.000 What are you gonna do?

02:28:13.000 Yeah.

02:28:14.000 Everything makes sense if you look at it through the prism of sports.

02:28:17.000 It's just like you need rules for truth to shake out.

02:28:21.000 Have to have rules.

02:28:22.000 Because then you define winning.

02:28:23.000 You define meritocracy.

02:28:25.000 Yeah.

02:28:25.000 It's like, you know, I would always say this.

02:28:29.000 Salary caps create...

02:28:31.000 If you're going to believe in competition, if we're going to assume the idea that competition is the best thing for the global capitalism and we have to maintain it in its purest sense, then you need salary cap.

02:28:43.000 Yeah.

02:28:47.000 A salary cap for everything in life?

02:28:51.000 The idea of a cap where it's like you have to continue competing, sending you back, like boxing, right?

02:28:57.000 If I compare boxing to UFC, the issue with boxing is you don't have to fight fights.

02:29:01.000 Right.

02:29:02.000 You don't have to fight fights?

02:29:04.000 You don't have to fight the big fights.

02:29:06.000 You know, like people duck.

02:29:07.000 They duck so many fights.

02:29:09.000 UFC is, while it's not a salary cap, what the UFC does is it reinforces competition.

02:29:15.000 You have to continue defending your belt, and that's what makes it a better sport.

02:29:19.000 Okay, I see what you're saying.

02:29:19.000 I gotta piss so bad.

02:29:20.000 Sorry.

02:29:20.000 I can barely pay attention.

02:29:21.000 I can't believe you fucking lasted... 0.99

02:29:24.000 We'll be right back in a moment. 1.00

02:29:25.000 I must piss.

02:29:27.000 And we're back.

02:29:28.000 I think one of the things that was very interesting that you were saying about, like, that life...

02:29:34.000 If everything just opened up, we'd kind of be like the UFC. We'd figure out the right way to do it.

02:29:38.000 There'd be a lot of chaos.

02:29:40.000 With the right rules and with the right incentive.

02:29:42.000 Because, you know, UFC, everybody stays poor, so you have to keep fighting.

02:29:46.000 Hmm.

02:29:47.000 Right?

02:29:48.000 I mean, not everybody, but...

02:29:49.000 What is the incentive, though?

02:29:50.000 Because some guys, they have...

02:29:52.000 Like, BJ Penn in his prime famously came from a rich family.

02:29:55.000 Like, BJ Penn was a weird case.

02:29:57.000 Where he just, like, had a warrior in his jeans.

02:30:00.000 You know, he wasn't poor. 1.00

02:30:02.000 And he was one of the baddest motherfuckers of all time. 0.99

02:30:04.000 Yeah, but I mean he's not getting rewarded with that much money by fighting. 0.98

02:30:09.000 I think what's cool about the UFC is these dudes want to do it.

02:30:13.000 Like, I get it that, like, say, for Chido Vera, right? 0.86

02:30:16.000 Chido Vera, this is a way to become, quote-unquote, like, rich.

02:30:20.000 But if you look at what Chido Vera makes in comparison to, like, Tank or Ryan Garcia, it's not nearly as much.

02:30:28.000 But you're getting better competition in the UFC, I think, is what I'm trying to say.

02:30:32.000 If that makes sense.

02:30:33.000 If you get to, but you ought to say, Tank and Ryan Garcia are world champions.

02:30:37.000 So the difference is if you get to world championship like Aljamain Sterling level, Aljamain's making, I don't know, I shouldn't speak for him, but I know that there are many UFC champions that make millions of dollars.

02:30:49.000 They become very wealthy.

02:30:50.000 Would you say though that you have to work harder for your money in UFC than in boxing?

02:30:55.000 I think it's a harder sport.

02:30:56.000 It's not that boxing is not a hard sport.

02:30:59.000 It's a very, very, very hard sport.

02:31:02.000 What's harder about MMA is that because of all the grappling and all the wrestling that you have to do, your body gets so beat up, it's really hard to show up on fight night and not be already damaged.

02:31:15.000 Whereas in boxing, if you have good sparring partners, like the boxing fights that get cancelled versus UFC, the fights that get cancelled, I would like to see what's to...

02:31:24.000 Actual statistics are but I would assume there's way more UFC fights get cancelled because of the variables the leg kicks, takedowns, all those opportunities to tweak your knee or fuck your neck up.

02:31:36.000 There's just so many people getting hurt in camp that never make it to the fight whereas in boxing it's pretty rare.

02:31:42.000 Yeah, it's more rare.

02:31:44.000 It's more like, oh, I broke my hand on a sparring partner's head, things like that.

02:31:49.000 UFC, too, though, it's the idea that you just keep making people fight the toughest fights, and then you're going to get the true champion, and you're going to get the better sport.

02:31:59.000 And I think when applied to society, it's like, yo, you got to maintain competition in a true sense.

02:32:05.000 Did you see Caleb Plant, David Benavidez?

02:32:09.000 I did not watch that fight.

02:32:10.000 Dude.

02:32:11.000 It was Saturday.

02:32:12.000 You need to see that fight.

02:32:13.000 Yeah.

02:32:13.000 You need to watch that fight.

02:32:15.000 I got married on Tuesday, so I have an excuse this time.

02:32:18.000 That's a real excuse.

02:32:19.000 But I will go watch this fight.

02:32:21.000 You should watch it because it was very impressive.

02:32:24.000 Because if you watched Caleb Plant fight, if you saw him in the Canelo fight, and you saw him in what is his subsequent fight?

02:32:31.000 Who did he knock out with that vicious left hook?

02:32:35.000 Darrell?

02:32:36.000 Darrell?

02:32:38.000 I can't remember what the dude's name was.

02:32:41.000 I just remember Caleb Plant losing the fight before.

02:32:45.000 Yeah, Anthony Durrell.

02:32:46.000 Yeah.

02:32:47.000 Vicious left hook KO. But I'm telling you, man, Benavidez just broke him down and was just battering him.

02:32:55.000 And he's a big, tall dude, but Benavidez was battering him in tight in the clinch.

02:33:00.000 I mean, because Caleb kept trying to grab him.

02:33:03.000 He was grabbing him and holding on to him.

02:33:05.000 Dude, this guy was...

02:33:06.000 I mean, it was a good fight.

02:33:08.000 It was a good fight, particularly in the beginning.

02:33:10.000 But, like, he was battering him with some vicious punches, man.

02:33:16.000 Was Benavidez more impressive than Canelo versus Plant?

02:33:20.000 Well, Canelo stopped him.

02:33:21.000 Yeah.

02:33:22.000 I think it was like sixth round, right?

02:33:23.000 Yeah.

02:33:23.000 You gotta think, well, Canelo might be, I mean, this guy, as hard as Benavidez hits, Canelo might actually hit harder.

02:33:29.000 Yeah.

02:33:29.000 Canelo's a monster fighter.

02:33:31.000 Yeah, Canelo hits harder for sure. 0.99

02:33:32.000 But Benavidez, as far as like a young, up-and-coming, undefeated dude who's real unusual, like real long and strong, like powerful fucking puncher too, man. 0.98

02:33:44.000 Fun to watch. 0.95

02:33:46.000 And Caleb is slick, dude.

02:33:48.000 Caleb is slick.

02:33:49.000 But he eventually wore on him.

02:33:50.000 He wore on him.

02:33:51.000 He just kept coming after him, kept coming after him.

02:33:54.000 Plant has been known to kind of fade.

02:33:56.000 He's got such a sprint-heavy sort of style.

02:33:59.000 The style is very...

02:34:00.000 It really almost depends too much upon, like, fast twitch or something.

02:34:05.000 He has holes in his defense, too.

02:34:08.000 Like, a lot of holes in his defense.

02:34:10.000 It's a lot of offense without defense built in is kind of like what I've seen when I watch Caleb Plant fight.

02:34:16.000 You know, one of the most substantial changes in Canelo from like the early days to the late days is his head movement.

02:34:22.000 That's a big difference, man.

02:34:24.000 Like the Danny Jacobs fight.

02:34:25.000 Yeah.

02:34:26.000 That's one of the most beautiful displays of head movement in the history of boxing.

02:34:30.000 Yeah.

02:34:30.000 It was gorgeous.

02:34:31.000 It was like Willy Pep type shit. 0.99

02:34:32.000 Yep. 0.99

02:34:32.000 Just moving around and the punches were swinging. 0.99

02:34:35.000 I was like, nope, not today. 0.97

02:34:37.000 He's so nasty.

02:34:38.000 It was beautiful. 0.95

02:34:39.000 He's the best counter puncher right now.

02:34:41.000 That was really pretty gorgeous, that fight.

02:34:44.000 I just think when he went up to fight Bival, that's just too much.

02:34:47.000 That's too big.

02:34:47.000 That's too much man.

02:34:48.000 That's too big.

02:34:49.000 He's big.

02:34:49.000 Yeah.

02:34:50.000 A 175 killer versus a 168 killer.

02:34:54.000 And really, he's a 154 killer, right?

02:34:56.000 He just kind of bulked up. 0.95

02:34:58.000 That's too big.

02:34:58.000 And Canelo also came into that fight really flat-footed and fighting Bivol, trying to throw bombs, because he got so comfortable just overpowering people.

02:35:08.000 Taking people out.

02:35:08.000 Yeah, and he didn't box.

02:35:11.000 Yeah.

02:35:11.000 Bivol was nasty, too.

02:35:12.000 And after he knocked out Kovalev, god damn, that was a wild fight. 0.98

02:35:15.000 That was fun to watch. 0.99

02:35:16.000 Yeah.

02:35:17.000 Because you could see, like, he just...

02:35:18.000 Kovalev obviously knocked the same Kovalev as when he was the champion.

02:35:22.000 You know, back in the Andre Ward days?

02:35:24.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:35:24.000 But Kovalev was still fucking dangerous. 0.98

02:35:27.000 Still, like, a really good, you know, light heavyweight boxer. 0.96

02:35:32.000 Kovalev's one of the best villains of the last 15 years because he lost a lot of the big fights, but he made, like, the Andre Ward series was incredible. 0.93

02:35:41.000 The Canelo shit was amazing. 0.97

02:35:43.000 Kovalev's a good villain. 1.00

02:35:44.000 Bro, he dropped Ward, remember?

02:35:46.000 Yeah. 0.94

02:35:47.000 Dropped when Ward came back to win that fight, and then Ward fucked him up in the second fight. 0.97

02:35:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:35:51.000 You know, Ward was fighting him with one hand. 0.99

02:35:53.000 Yeah, Ward is one of the smartest boxers I've ever seen.

02:35:56.000 Ever.

02:35:57.000 Ever.

02:35:58.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 Fought most of his career with one arm.

02:36:00.000 I didn't know that. 0.99

02:36:01.000 Yeah, his right arm was fucked up. 0.99

02:36:03.000 His shoulder's fucked up. 0.99

02:36:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:36:04.000 He had to fight with, like, one-handed, like, literally one-handed, until he got shoulder surgery. 0.98

02:36:11.000 And then even, he tore his shoulder when he was very young, and they tried to fix it with bands and shit like that, where they should have just done surgery.

02:36:18.000 And they didn't do the surgery.

02:36:19.000 And that's why he took the break.

02:36:20.000 Yeah.

02:36:21.000 And they took a break and came back, and his shoulder was better than ever.

02:36:24.000 But it's still, like, the guy beat Carl Frosch, beat all those people with, like, one hand.

02:36:28.000 That Kovalev fight was just crazy because, you know, Kovalev had him early on, and then Andre just downloaded information, started fighting low to high, high to low, instead of going laterally, and Kovalev just could not keep up with him.

02:36:43.000 Like the stuff jab, and that was...

02:36:46.000 That was a clinic.

02:36:47.000 He's so smart.

02:36:48.000 And, you know, they offered him the Canelo-Avarez fight after Canelo knocked out Kovalev.

02:36:54.000 And he's like, nope, I think I'd be better served being a broadcaster.

02:36:57.000 He was a retired, undefeated, you know, multiple weight world champion, gold medalist.

02:37:03.000 Good.

02:37:04.000 Because that Canelo fight would have been tough.

02:37:06.000 I would have loved to see it, but I think Andre Ward is very smart not taking that fight.

02:37:11.000 Well, I feel like if you're going to have a fight like that, you should be fighting all the time.

02:37:16.000 You should be in peak condition.

02:37:17.000 You shouldn't be on a retirement mindset and then come back.

02:37:21.000 That mindset is very different.

02:37:23.000 The mindset of a dude who's either chasing a championship or maintaining a championship is a Spartan, savage mindset.

02:37:30.000 And if you relax and retire, you have to rekindle that beast.

02:37:35.000 You have to restoke those fires.

02:37:37.000 You should probably get some warm-up fights inside of you. 0.92

02:37:39.000 Yeah, you need to have something you're chasing.

02:37:42.000 Which is why I felt like Triple G coming to Phi Canelo has just been so lackluster.

02:37:47.000 The last one was.

02:37:48.000 The last one was fairly...

02:37:50.000 The first two were great. 0.98

02:37:52.000 Dude, time doesn't give a shit about your plans. 1.00

02:37:56.000 Father of Time just starts fucking up your joints, fucking up your back, fucking up your face, fucking up your scar tissue around your eyebrows. 1.00

02:38:05.000 Ball shrink. 1.00

02:38:06.000 Like I still really...

02:38:08.000 I like want to get after it still most days.

02:38:12.000 Don't do it.

02:38:12.000 But I remember when I was younger, all seven days, probably fucking eight hours of the day, I wanted to be productive.

02:38:19.000 Now I'm like, I want to feel good. 0.91

02:38:22.000 I want to feel good.

02:38:23.000 And then it's the curiosity thing. 0.99

02:38:26.000 So I think my shit's better, but I don't have... 0.98

02:38:28.000 I'm not working as much. 0.99

02:38:30.000 You're very, very privileged that you've accomplished enough so that that part of you is kind of quenched.

02:38:36.000 And really now what you're about is you're still successful, but you're being successful just by chasing your curiosity, which I think is amazing.

02:38:44.000 That's kind of a lot of what podcasts are all about.

02:38:47.000 Podcasts are really all about chasing curiosity, having conversations, asking questions you're really interested in, finding out stuff about things.

02:38:55.000 It's really about chasing curiosity.

02:38:57.000 Yeah, and it was like I ended up doing everything I wanted to do.

02:39:01.000 Restaurant, memoir, the movie.

02:39:04.000 And then I came back and started a podcast with Wifey because I was like, I miss...

02:39:09.000 Intimate conversation. 0.98

02:39:10.000 I miss talking to individual fans like I'll respond to them in the comments and I got stuff going on because like as a writer and director you really only get to make something once every three to five years and That like fallow period is unbearable for me And so the podcast is like a good way to like every week like let me use the brain Let me let me like open up because I realized I was just like I'm rotting on my fucking couch Yeah.

02:39:36.000 A lot of people who are writers gravitated to podcasts, too, because it allows them to put out stuff that gets seen by far more people or heard by far more people with far less effort.

02:39:49.000 Like Sam Harris has said that.

02:39:50.000 Sam has written quite a few really great books, but he also does his podcast.

02:39:57.000 And the podcast, probably in one episode that he does in just a couple of hours, reaches more people than, you know, I mean, how much does the average book sell?

02:40:09.000 How many copies does a book have to sell to get on the New York Times bestseller list?

02:40:13.000 I think maybe first...

02:40:15.000 It's not that much first week.

02:40:17.000 I don't think it's that much, right?

02:40:18.000 It's not that much.

02:40:19.000 I think it's like a couple thousand to get on the New York Times bestseller list.

02:40:22.000 So every episode that he has is a New York Times bestseller.

02:40:25.000 And he does it in just a few hours.

02:40:27.000 Instead of like months and months and months of...

02:40:31.000 Writing and editing and soul searching and snorting at her all.

02:40:37.000 And it becomes a group project.

02:40:39.000 I have very few editors.

02:40:41.000 I have an editor, Rachel Audible.

02:40:44.000 She's great. 0.99

02:40:45.000 My old editor, Chris Jackson, made my shit better. 0.98

02:40:47.000 But there's very few people you work with that actually make it better. 0.98

02:40:51.000 They really just want to make it more make sense to them.

02:40:54.000 Mm-hmm.

02:40:54.000 A lot of them.

02:40:55.000 And a lot of them want to get their greasy little fingers on something and leave their fingerprints.

02:41:00.000 Yeah.

02:41:00.000 I told Eddie to do it like this.

02:41:03.000 Yeah, the worst editors and producers are artists by proxy because they don't want to take the risk of being an artist.

02:41:10.000 Right.

02:41:11.000 But I'll rasp you in you.

02:41:13.000 And they think they're experts.

02:41:14.000 I am an expert.

02:41:15.000 Listen, I know how to make a film.

02:41:18.000 Yeah.

02:41:20.000 I have ideas that are bulletproof.

02:41:23.000 I've been successful on 15 projects.

02:41:27.000 Yeah.

02:41:27.000 It's a weird world, man.

02:41:29.000 It is.

02:41:30.000 If you could be in a self-produced world, you're so much better off.

02:41:32.000 Because then you don't have to interact with people that aren't doing their own thing.

02:41:35.000 They're doing other people's things.

02:41:37.000 Which may work, but oftentimes doesn't.

02:41:40.000 If you looked at the formula for creating a good show on television, how many shows do they pick that never become any good?

02:41:47.000 Is it half?

02:41:48.000 Are they even 50% successful?

02:41:52.000 What do you think they are?

02:41:53.000 Like, if you had to guess, like, let's just go sitcoms.

02:41:56.000 What percentage of sitcoms did they create are any good?

02:41:59.000 Or become successful?

02:42:01.000 Is it 50?

02:42:02.000 Yo, like, I think they make like 250 a year, I think was the number or something like that.

02:42:08.000 And how many do I enjoy and watch?

02:42:12.000 Succession, White Lotus.

02:42:14.000 Do you think Succession is a sitcom?

02:42:16.000 Yellowjackets.

02:42:17.000 Oh, no, that's not a sitcom.

02:42:18.000 No, no, no.

02:42:19.000 My bad.

02:42:19.000 I was giving credit for all of it.

02:42:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:42:22.000 But no, sitcom's zero.

02:42:23.000 Like, for me, they're what?

02:42:25.000 Zero.

02:42:26.000 They're still making them, though.

02:42:27.000 They're still making them.

02:42:28.000 Isn't that wild?

02:42:29.000 Yeah, somebody's eating that up.

02:42:30.000 There's a few of them that are good.

02:42:31.000 Miss Pat's is really funny.

02:42:33.000 Miss Pat's is genuinely very funny.

02:42:34.000 Abbott Elementary is good.

02:42:36.000 I guess that would be.

02:42:36.000 What's Abbott Elementary?

02:42:37.000 It's cool.

02:42:38.000 It's about, like, school teachers in Philadelphia.

02:42:41.000 It's like The Office, but it's a workplace comedy.

02:42:45.000 Like, Zach Fox is in it.

02:42:46.000 And it's in Philadelphia with teachers.

02:42:49.000 You would like it.

02:42:50.000 But it's at the level of a sitcom, like 30 Rock, where it's single camera, it's very elevated, but it's on network television, so technically a sitcom.

02:42:59.000 You know what I watched the first episode of?

02:43:01.000 The Good Place.

02:43:03.000 Oh, is that good?

02:43:04.000 Dude, it's funny, man.

02:43:06.000 Really?

02:43:07.000 Yes.

02:43:07.000 And I watch it.

02:43:08.000 This is one of those, like, when you have a wife and daughter, occasionally, daughters, occasionally, this time it was only one of them that had the idea, you have to make sacrifices.

02:43:19.000 You can't watch what you want to watch.

02:43:21.000 Sometimes you have to watch what they want to watch.

02:43:23.000 And they tricked me.

02:43:25.000 Many times.

02:43:26.000 But not this one.

02:43:27.000 This one, the good place is Ted Danson and...

02:43:31.000 What's that pretty lady's name? 1.00

02:43:33.000 Kristen Bell. 0.99

02:43:36.000 And it's fucking funny, man. 0.99

02:43:38.000 I laughed hard. 0.99

02:43:39.000 I laughed hard.

02:43:40.000 It's about heaven.

02:43:41.000 I don't want to give away anything.

02:43:43.000 But it was funny. 0.99

02:43:45.000 I was like, that's a funny fucking show. 0.99

02:43:47.000 So that was an NBC show. 0.99

02:43:49.000 I'ma watch it.

02:43:50.000 How many episodes, what does Rotten Tomatoes give it?

02:43:52.000 Four seasons, maybe? 0.90

02:43:54.000 Does Rotten Tomatoes say, I have shitty taste?

02:43:58.000 What's it for? 0.96

02:43:59.000 Is Ted Danson dead?

02:44:01.000 No.

02:44:01.000 He's not?

02:44:02.000 No.

02:44:03.000 Oh, wow, this is highly rated.

02:44:05.000 He's watching?

02:44:05.000 He's been on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

02:44:07.000 Oh, 97%.

02:44:08.000 Wow.

02:44:09.000 89% average audience score, 97% average tomato meter.

02:44:15.000 I just watched the first, 2016 to what?

02:44:17.000 Dude, I'ma watch this.

02:44:19.000 20. So it was four years.

02:44:21.000 So it stopped three years. 0.97

02:44:22.000 Dude, it's fucking funny. 0.97

02:44:23.000 The first episode is, at least. 0.99

02:44:25.000 I laughed pretty fucking hard. 0.75

02:44:26.000 And I was like, this is clever, it's interesting. 0.94

02:44:29.000 It's different.

02:44:30.000 You know, the thing for me...

02:44:31.000 Well, that's a good...

02:44:32.000 That's a better era.

02:44:33.000 Right now, I just feel like it's so calculated, like, algorithmic what shows get picked.

02:44:40.000 It's just like music.

02:44:41.000 TikTok determines everything.

02:44:42.000 And, like, I don't even...

02:44:44.000 It's not that I'm against it.

02:44:45.000 TikTok is dope.

02:44:46.000 It's just that the music industry is like, this is the one metric.

02:44:50.000 This is what we're going to use to, like, decide which shows.

02:44:53.000 And I think what's cool about podcasts, right, is you've been doing this forever...

02:44:58.000 I think the podcasts that work and stay and keep fans, it's because the person is intimate. 0.84

02:45:04.000 They have a relationship with you, and you gave them something fucking real.

02:45:09.000 I think that definitely helps. 0.89

02:45:11.000 Because otherwise, why do they keep downloading episodes?

02:45:13.000 It's fun to think of how you think about conversations.

02:45:19.000 And I don't think we have enough conversations.

02:45:21.000 And one of the things about podcasts is...

02:45:23.000 You get to kind of participate in the conversation just in your head while you're doing something else. 0.98

02:45:29.000 So if you have some fucking mundane, boring-ass job and you're listening to a podcast, your mind gets to be taken on a little trip, and next thing you know, fucking three hours is gone. 0.98

02:45:38.000 Your shift is almost over, you know, and you're chilling. 0.99

02:45:42.000 The beauty of podcasts is that we all want to have conversations.

02:45:47.000 And, you know, we're all like, hey, if I could talk to Eddie Wong, what would I say? 1.00

02:45:51.000 I'll fucking shoot the shit with that dude. 1.00

02:45:53.000 That'd be fun. 1.00

02:45:54.000 And so that's what we're doing.

02:45:55.000 Like we're doing it like normal.

02:45:57.000 This is how you and I would talk if we're having dinner.

02:46:00.000 Yeah, in the bathroom.

02:46:01.000 We were talking in the bathroom, like taking a piss. 1.00

02:46:03.000 It's the same fucking shit. 1.00

02:46:04.000 Same exact conversation. 1.00

02:46:05.000 We should take a piss together more. 0.78

02:46:07.000 Yeah, it's hilarious. 0.72

02:46:08.000 It's the same exact kind of conversation.

02:46:10.000 We have it all the time.

02:46:11.000 Anytime I talk to you, it would be like this.

02:46:13.000 Yeah.

02:46:13.000 Yeah, it's like, but that is fun.

02:46:15.000 And it's, you know, no one would have ever saw that coming, though.

02:46:19.000 Like, if you were, you can't even blame, like, some radio network person. 1.00

02:46:23.000 They would never saw that shit coming. 1.00

02:46:25.000 No. 1.00

02:46:25.000 And it wouldn't work on radio, because they'd have to fucking put ads in every minute. 1.00

02:46:29.000 It wouldn't work on radio because you'd have someone leaning over your shoulder. 0.97

02:46:33.000 Yeah.

02:46:33.000 That'd be the problem.

02:46:34.000 Pig vomit. 0.99

02:46:34.000 If we walked out the door and there's a fucking office and they're like, hey, Eddie, this thing that you keep bringing up, every time you talk about it, this goes down and that goes up. 0.99

02:46:44.000 I'm like, ugh. 0.99

02:46:45.000 Yeah.

02:46:46.000 No, that was the literal...

02:46:48.000 You remember that movie Private Parts, right?

02:46:50.000 Where pig vomit was just like down. 0.99

02:46:53.000 Yeah, Paul Giamatti was just down his throat.

02:46:55.000 And I was watching that a few months ago, sitting on the couch with my girl and her mom.

02:46:59.000 And that's when I was like, I want to do a podcast. 0.99

02:47:01.000 I'm so sick of, like, studios and everybody just kind of, like, breathing down my neck like fucking pig vomit. 0.96

02:47:07.000 But for you, right, when... 0.99

02:47:09.000 Somebody has to have asked you this, but, like, when did you...

02:47:12.000 What made you want to do a pod?

02:47:14.000 It was just for fun.

02:47:15.000 Well, you know, I'd see what Tom Green had done in his house.

02:47:18.000 He developed, like, some sort of a podcast before there were podcasts.

02:47:21.000 It was, like, 2007. And he was just doing it from a website.

02:47:26.000 And it was, like, Tom Green TV or something like that.

02:47:28.000 Yeah, I remember that.

02:47:28.000 It was great.

02:47:29.000 And then I watched Anthony Cumia.

02:47:31.000 He did this thing live from the compound where he had, like, a green screen behind him, and he was, like, doing karaoke with a machine gun. 0.99

02:47:37.000 I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:47:39.000 Like, you could do, like, a radio show from your house. 1.00

02:47:43.000 And so me and Brian Redband just said, let's try it, just, like, with a webcam and just talking shit. 0.71

02:47:49.000 And then as time went on, like, my idea of what it was sort of kind of changed to the point where now it...

02:47:59.000 No, it almost feels like I think certain things that people do, it's almost like that thing wanted to get out there.

02:48:08.000 That thing wanted to be born. 0.92

02:48:09.000 That thing wanted to introduce people to all these interesting folks and introduce people to all these different ways of thinking and looking at things.

02:48:17.000 Because that's part of what's fun about it.

02:48:19.000 The more people you talk to, the more you get to see patterns that maybe you see in your own self.

02:48:26.000 You get to talk to people and find out why they think what they think.

02:48:31.000 Sort of flavors how you look at yourself.

02:48:33.000 Flavors the way you look at the world.

02:48:35.000 We're all better off for listening to good conversations. 0.98

02:48:38.000 I fucking love listening to a good conversation. 0.98

02:48:41.000 I was listening to Douglas Murray having this discussion. 0.97

02:48:47.000 They were discussing Immigration and what causes inequality and it's like having a conversation like interesting conversations that make you think are so fucking critical because sometimes you'll like get boxed in on a thought where you give a cursory look at something and you go well I have this knee-jerk reaction that's probably right and then you watch somebody else talk about it and you go oh look at it from their perspective and if you know it's an eloquent perspective that's convincing and interesting And

02:49:18.000 then someone else has a counter to that. 0.98

02:49:19.000 You're like, God damn, he's got some good points too. 1.00

02:49:21.000 Holy shit! 0.99

02:49:22.000 And it just sort of makes you reassess the way you look at things and why are we so dogmatic and why are we so attached to ideas? 0.99

02:49:30.000 What is it about ideas that are so attractive to us that we want to hang our hat on that idea to show that we're smarter because we believed in that idea?

02:49:39.000 Yeah, conversation at its core, it can be very humbling and enlightening at the same time.

02:49:45.000 It's dope. 0.55

02:49:46.000 And then sometimes I like to listen to your homie Tim Dillon just rant by himself, and then I feel like I'm talking to him, and I'm just like, yo, I listen to this guy talk straight for an hour.

02:49:56.000 It's so fire.

02:49:57.000 He's the best ranter that's ever existed.

02:49:59.000 No one rants better than him. 0.96

02:50:00.000 When he gets on a subject, especially if it's about corruption or something that's absolutely ridiculous, he goes for it. 0.99

02:50:08.000 He fucking goes for it. 0.99

02:50:10.000 He's so funny, man. 1.00

02:50:12.000 He's the greatest ranter.

02:50:13.000 Like him and my mom.

02:50:14.000 My mom's a really good ranter. 1.00

02:50:17.000 Yeah.

02:50:18.000 They're the best.

02:50:19.000 It's like there's a few out there.

02:50:21.000 Bill Burr is a great ranter.

02:50:24.000 I think Tim is the funniest ranter ever.

02:50:27.000 I really do. 0.96

02:50:28.000 When he just fucking goes for it, and also he's a smart guy. 0.96

02:50:33.000 So his takes, they make sense. 0.97

02:50:35.000 They make a lot of sense and they cut through the noise.

02:50:38.000 That's the thing about him that I'm like, oh, you don't care if this hurts somebody's feelings because it's truthful. 0.99

02:50:44.000 And that's what I fuck with him about. 0.99

02:50:47.000 He's very truthful. 0.99

02:50:48.000 Well, at this point in time, it seems like that needs to be a thing.

02:50:52.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:50:54.000 Because we're trying to protect people's feelings, we're allowing all kinds of fucking madness in the world. 0.99

02:50:59.000 But the crazy shit about Tim Dillon's shows, right? 0.99

02:51:01.000 I went to his show, like, I drove all the way to Irvine to watch this guy. 0.99

02:51:04.000 Nice.

02:51:05.000 And I don't know if his audience is in on the joke.

02:51:08.000 Like, they're laughing at it earnestly when he's, like, laughing at them.

02:51:12.000 And I'm like...

02:51:14.000 It's a bit of two things happening simultaneously. 0.98

02:51:18.000 Because Tim is conservative, and he's also gay. 1.00

02:51:21.000 He's very insightful and funny, but he's also making fun of morons. 1.00

02:51:25.000 It's like he's doing both things simultaneously. 0.99

02:51:28.000 And what he's essentially doing is just being fucking hugely entertaining. 0.77

02:51:32.000 That's part of what the whole thing is. 0.92

02:51:35.000 It's just hugely entertaining.

02:51:36.000 And for whatever reason they laugh at it, if they don't get it, they're not even in on the joke, it's still funny.

02:51:42.000 I don't even know if I would fully categorize him as conservative, you know, because there's certain takes of his that are like anti-war.

02:51:49.000 He's very anti-war.

02:51:50.000 Yes.

02:51:51.000 I wouldn't say maybe conservative is not the correct right of center, I would say.

02:51:56.000 Yeah.

02:51:57.000 Right of center.

02:51:57.000 I would agree there.

02:51:58.000 Yeah, that's the problem, right, is that we have two choices.

02:52:02.000 Conservative or liberal.

02:52:03.000 I'm so much more liberal than I am conservative.

02:52:05.000 So much more on most things.

02:52:07.000 But there's a couple things where I'm like, hey, hard work's important.

02:52:11.000 Hey, you know, maybe you should be able to have a gun.

02:52:14.000 Hey.

02:52:15.000 Yeah.

02:52:15.000 You know, there's a few of those things.

02:52:18.000 I would see Tim as logical, like a lot of his takes.

02:52:21.000 I'm like, that makes a lot of sense.

02:52:22.000 Very logical.

02:52:23.000 Very well thought out and very informed.

02:52:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:52:25.000 He's not talking out of his ass like me. 1.00

02:52:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:52:29.000 And he's down for diversity.

02:52:31.000 On a lot of the cultural issues, he's pretty progressive.

02:52:35.000 Very progressive.

02:52:36.000 But he's also real honest about what's going on here.

02:52:38.000 And that's part of the problem.

02:52:40.000 I haven't seen his take on the school shooter, but I'm sure it's going to be a doozy.

02:52:44.000 Oof.

02:52:45.000 This whole thing is so crazy, man.

02:52:48.000 It's so terrifying that someone would want to do that to kids.

02:52:51.000 It's so terrifying.

02:52:53.000 It's really upsetting.

02:52:55.000 It's really upsetting.

02:52:56.000 Every time.

02:52:58.000 I feel like there's going to come a time where we decide that the only way to stop this is armed guards.

02:53:06.000 Which is, no one wants to go to that place.

02:53:09.000 No one wants to have armed guards in front of every school.

02:53:12.000 We never had that before.

02:53:13.000 Why do we have that now?

02:53:15.000 And I get it.

02:53:17.000 I get that no one would want that.

02:53:19.000 I mean, it's horrific.

02:53:21.000 But I also get that, like...

02:53:25.000 I don't see any other way to protect this idea that you're going to take all the guns away.

02:53:30.000 They're not going to go for that.

02:53:31.000 It's not in the Constitution.

02:53:33.000 It's on the Bill of Rights.

02:53:33.000 You're not going to the Second Amendment.

02:53:36.000 People aren't going to just give their guns up. 0.99

02:53:38.000 As fucked up as that sounds. 0.98

02:53:40.000 Because it's not the law-abiding people with guns that are the problem. 1.00

02:53:43.000 It's people with mental health problems.

02:53:46.000 That's the problem. 0.69

02:53:47.000 And they get a hold of guns.

02:53:48.000 So how do you stop the people with mental health problems from getting a hold of guns and doing this?

02:53:53.000 That's the real question. 1.00

02:53:55.000 And I don't know the fucking answer. 0.99

02:53:57.000 And I don't think anybody does. 0.99

02:53:58.000 That's why no one's done anything.

02:53:59.000 And the best that anybody does is put armed guards in front of schools.

02:54:04.000 And, you know, and then people get upset on social media and they talk about taking guns away.

02:54:09.000 And then it becomes a big discussion of whether or not that's the answer to this and whether or not that promotes tyranny, whether or not disarming the people is, like, good for us overall.

02:54:22.000 Is there anything that's a net positive about the...

02:54:25.000 The country being armed?

02:54:26.000 Is there anything that's a net positive about the Second Amendment?

02:54:30.000 When those conversations happen, that's when things get very interesting.

02:54:33.000 And you find out why we agree on certain things, why we disagree on other things, and what we think is the cause of these horrific tragedies.

02:54:44.000 And one of the major causes is clearly that to order to do something like that, something has to be horribly wrong.

02:54:53.000 And we have to figure out, like...

02:54:56.000 Is there a way to spot that?

02:54:57.000 Is there a way to stop that?

02:54:59.000 Other than armed guards?

02:55:00.000 Is there a way to reach that person?

02:55:02.000 Should we be more sensitive about people?

02:55:05.000 Or is it impossible to detect?

02:55:07.000 Some people just hide it until they want to do it?

02:55:10.000 I don't know.

02:55:11.000 I don't know the answer. 1.00

02:55:12.000 It's fucked, though, dude. 1.00

02:55:13.000 It's fucked. 1.00

02:55:15.000 It's really scary shit. 1.00

02:55:16.000 It's really scary shit how often it's happening. 1.00

02:55:21.000 I would have to say that school shootings are the most disturbing genre of news. 0.99

02:55:26.000 Like, I get the saddest.

02:55:28.000 Like, I will cry.

02:55:29.000 Like the Odessa one, I was like, this one was really rough.

02:55:34.000 Yesterday's is really rough.

02:55:35.000 The thing for me, though, is I feel that a large part of the issue is that we're always arguing about the exact cause.

02:55:44.000 And my thing is, this is a multi-cause issue.

02:55:47.000 This is a complete reflection of our society.

02:55:51.000 And we're wasting time arguing, is it the guns?

02:55:56.000 Is it mental health?

02:55:57.000 I really feel it's a lot of things combined.

02:56:02.000 The guns aren't shooting people themselves, but the guns are very available to people that probably should not have them.

02:56:10.000 Then it gets caught up in like, are we taking away the guns?

02:56:13.000 I'm like, that's actually not the issue.

02:56:15.000 How can we stop this from happening?

02:56:17.000 Let's all get together and be like, we don't want to see kids shot in school.

02:56:20.000 This is the worst thing that can possibly happen in your society.

02:56:24.000 And just shut it down.

02:56:25.000 And like, let's say we put the armed guards at the school. 0.69

02:56:28.000 Well, they still can shoot people at a supermarket.

02:56:30.000 They could still shoot them at gymnastics class. 0.96

02:56:32.000 These people, I think, are just very... 0.97

02:56:35.000 There's something wrong.

02:56:36.000 They're very unhappy.

02:56:37.000 They're very angry.

02:56:38.000 They want to do something...

02:56:40.000 To bring us to our knees, I can't say what mental health issue is afflicting each one of these shooters.

02:56:49.000 Something is wrong, but I do also feel that until we get a hold of this and until we can heal as a society and people don't hate each other so much...

02:57:02.000 Not allowing the guns to be this available to people isn't the worst idea.

02:57:09.000 The problem is they're already there.

02:57:12.000 They're already available.

02:57:13.000 There's too many of them.

02:57:15.000 Like, if you try to stop the flow, like, first of all, they're constantly making new ones, right?

02:57:20.000 So think of that.

02:57:20.000 And then second of all, there's 400 million guns in America right now.

02:57:24.000 Stop all production, stop all production, stop all sales.

02:57:28.000 You still have 400 million guns.

02:57:31.000 There's literally no way to stop it.

02:57:33.000 This is the mental gymnastics that happens.

02:57:37.000 When I'm trying to figure something out that I cannot figure out, like this issue of school shooters, I try to get into an analogous or metaphorical place.

02:57:45.000 If we look at gun violence, like inflation, and then we're the Fed.

02:57:50.000 The guns are there.

02:57:51.000 I agree with you.

02:57:52.000 They're already out here.

02:57:53.000 Prices are high, like inflation.

02:57:54.000 Inflation is in our society.

02:57:56.000 So people want to stop inflation.

02:57:59.000 Take back the guns.

02:58:01.000 Stop lending free money out.

02:58:04.000 But is inflation going down?

02:58:06.000 The fear that people have is the government has already shown that even with an armed populist, they will do what they can to be in control of people and to...

02:58:17.000 Make people follow rules that they create that may not be in your best interest.

02:58:23.000 And over time it will be revealed that it's not your best interest and you have no recourse.

02:58:27.000 And people are scared that if they didn't have guns, if they're treating us like that and people have guns, how would the government treat us if they were the ones that had all the power?

02:58:37.000 And I think that's a real good fear if you look at human history.

02:58:41.000 But I don't think there's a utopian answer to this.

02:58:47.000 It's all bad when this happens.

02:58:52.000 No one's making a clear case to how to avoid tyranny and stop this from happening.

02:58:59.000 The best I've heard is armed guards.

02:59:02.000 So when a lot of people will be like, these conservative nutbags that want their guns, I'm like, if you're already looking at them like that, then you can't see the issue because nothing is this clear cut.

02:59:15.000 It's fun to call them conservative nutbags, want their guns.

02:59:17.000 Yeah, it's fun, but if we care about these kids, it's important to be like, alright, let's give credence to what they're saying, which is, alright, I'm afraid of a government that runs unchecked.

02:59:30.000 It's a legitimate common sense thing.

02:59:32.000 I could see how a human being would want to worry about that.

02:59:35.000 Then what I would say to the person is, have you seen Waco on Showtime?

02:59:41.000 Do you think that you and your homies with some ammunition...

02:59:45.000 We're good to go.

03:00:06.000 Get rich.

03:00:07.000 Have a business like Amazon.

03:00:09.000 Have a business like Apple. 1.00

03:00:11.000 Have fucking lobbyists. 1.00

03:00:13.000 Business is how you hold governments accountable. 1.00

03:00:15.000 It's not the guns.

03:00:16.000 That's what I would try to explain to people.

03:00:18.000 So you would tell someone if they want to change the world, become Apple.

03:00:20.000 Make a new Apple and then just take over.

03:00:23.000 Leverage.

03:00:24.000 It's leverage.

03:00:25.000 It's hard.

03:00:26.000 You're literally saying make Apple.

03:00:28.000 Make Apple.

03:00:28.000 Make the most successful company in the history of the world.

03:00:31.000 But it would be even more ridiculous to give someone an AR-15 and say, yo, defend this country.

03:00:38.000 Yeah, you're not going to defend, but you also have to recognize this. 0.98

03:00:42.000 That's how ridiculous.

03:00:43.000 We're looking at very abstract concepts of the country. 0.91

03:00:47.000 The country is comprised of people and those people are not rich.

03:00:52.000 The people that are in the military, that are doing the bidding of the military, they won't do it.

03:00:57.000 See, this is where it becomes a real problem.

03:00:59.000 If you tell the people that they have to go after their own neighbors For something that doesn't make any sense, that would be where the rubber meets the road.

03:01:07.000 So the thing is, like Jordan Peterson talks about this often, that the way things change is not all at once.

03:01:13.000 The way things change are in these little small steps where it's almost unrecognizable, and you give in to it, and then you're a little bit further down the road, and then you give in to another little insult, and you're a little bit further down the road.

03:01:25.000 And over time, you look and you've given up an insane amount of your rights.

03:01:30.000 And then you live in a dictatorship.

03:01:32.000 And this is what people worry about with any control that the government has more than it has now.

03:01:39.000 This is what people worried about whenever they talk about extreme taxes. 1.00

03:01:44.000 When the government in California raised the taxes up to 14%, people are like, What the fuck is your fucking shit position? 1.00

03:01:52.000 They're just stealing money from you. 1.00

03:01:54.000 And there's income inequality and we have to take care of it by taxing the fuck out of you.

03:02:00.000 And then where does the money go?

03:02:01.000 Does it fix anything?

03:02:02.000 No!

03:02:03.000 They're stealing money.

03:02:04.000 And there's people that think because they're liberals that that's a good idea.

03:02:08.000 We should raise the taxes and no one should be rich.

03:02:10.000 Well then you know who's rich?

03:02:11.000 The government. 1.00

03:02:12.000 They have all your fucking money. 0.99

03:02:13.000 And you're not going to work as much. 0.99

03:02:15.000 None of this is good. 1.00

03:02:17.000 Because this society, this country wants us stupid. 1.00

03:02:21.000 So they offer us two really stupid, ineffective solutions, Democrats and Republicans. 1.00

03:02:27.000 And they're both Rube Goldbergs. 1.00

03:02:30.000 It's WWF, man.

03:02:32.000 You remember those Rube Goldbergs?

03:02:33.000 You put a ball and it goes around and all these things happen.

03:02:36.000 So if you disagree with this, then this is where it ends up and yada yada.

03:02:41.000 The one idea we talked about today that I do think would hold governments accountable to us is the idea of global mobility.

03:02:49.000 If the countries are competing for citizens, then we, theoretically, would have the best deal.

03:02:56.000 That would be wild if we just all agree.

03:02:59.000 But the problem with that is the only way to do that, you have to have some sort of a government. 0.99

03:03:03.000 And this sounds very suspiciously like some one-world government shit. 0.99

03:03:09.000 And that is the last thing you want. 0.99

03:03:11.000 We don't want one-world government.

03:03:12.000 We want countries competing as businesses for us as customers to live there. 0.96

03:03:17.000 So if we all just agreed, hey, let's stop with this fucking killing each other and just compete for people to move to your spot... 0.96

03:03:26.000 It's like Florida and Texas. 0.98

03:03:28.000 They offered you no income tax, right?

03:03:30.000 So it's competitive.

03:03:32.000 Discussion that I was telling you about with Douglas Murray, one of the things they were talking about was the exploitation of people in Mexico with cheap labor that's forcing them to want to come to the United States.

03:03:43.000 It's a very good point.

03:03:45.000 It's an interesting point, right? 0.99

03:03:46.000 Like, what is wrong down south where they're risking their fucking lives and their baby's lives to come up here? 0.99

03:03:53.000 How did this happen? 1.00

03:03:54.000 And are we to blame?

03:03:58.000 Is automobile manufacturing moving there?

03:04:01.000 Is all these different factories and plants moving there?

03:04:04.000 And then people knowing that if you just get across that river, you make real money.

03:04:08.000 You make real money.

03:04:09.000 You get rich.

03:04:10.000 You just work hard, you can get ahead.

03:04:12.000 You're like, what?

03:04:13.000 But why can't you get ahead over there?

03:04:15.000 What is wrong?

03:04:16.000 What happened?

03:04:17.000 It's probably partially to do with moving manufacturing over there for extremely cheap labor.

03:04:23.000 Right?

03:04:24.000 And also...

03:04:25.000 America has always kind of made it a business to cripple Mexico.

03:04:32.000 You know, like, we're so embedded with Mexico because it's classic, like, it's classic country strategy to weaken your closest neighbor. 1.00

03:04:40.000 You know, like, Mexico cannot be a threat to America.

03:04:44.000 So, you know, I think there's a lot of Mexican government that we're involved in.

03:04:50.000 I would say try this, but the problem is the bottom of it's broken.

03:04:53.000 You're gonna get a mouthful of weed.

03:04:55.000 That's cool.

03:04:57.000 Do your best with that mouthful of weed.

03:05:01.000 Yeah.

03:05:02.000 Yeah, I told you.

03:05:02.000 It's terrible.

03:05:03.000 It's terrible.

03:05:05.000 I think what everybody wants is to be happy and to enjoy life and to pursue your dreams.

03:05:11.000 Do the thing you enjoy doing.

03:05:13.000 That's what everybody wants.

03:05:14.000 The more we can move towards that collectively as a society, the better it is.

03:05:18.000 And I don't know how to do that.

03:05:19.000 And I don't know if there's a way we can like...

03:05:25.000 Instead of looking at things at right versus left, what do we all agree on?

03:05:29.000 Can we find the stuff we agree on?

03:05:31.000 Just think about that.

03:05:32.000 And I think too it's just because the idea of identity is tied to country and family.

03:05:39.000 You talk to any person.

03:05:41.000 Where it gets dicey and where things stop making sense is when it gets down to family or it gets down to culture and religion because you've basically blacked out those areas of Your brain and consciousness where you're like, I'm not going to open that Pandora's box. 0.97

03:05:58.000 But if you open it, it's fucking scary the first 10 years.

03:06:02.000 But after a while, you're like, no, I'm glad I considered that. 0.99

03:06:05.000 I'm glad I thought about that because I'm not so tied to this country or identity or even this fucking family. 0.99

03:06:10.000 Yeah. 0.97

03:06:12.000 And we shouldn't be tied to any identity, especially like ideological, like a left-wing or a right-wing.

03:06:19.000 I think it's like cults, man.

03:06:20.000 I think it's not much different than people that have like cult-like thinking.

03:06:25.000 I have a friend of mine, and she was telling me today, in fact, that she grew up in a cult.

03:06:33.000 She was telling me this whole thing.

03:06:34.000 They told her she was a prophet.

03:06:35.000 And when she realized the cult was fake, she's like, thank God I could be a normal person.

03:06:40.000 I thought it was a prophet.

03:06:43.000 People get sucked in.

03:06:44.000 They get sucked into that.

03:06:46.000 They get sucked into being a right-wing person.

03:06:48.000 They get sucked into being a left-wing person.

03:06:50.000 They get sucked into being Antifa.

03:06:52.000 They get sucked into being a Proud Boys. 0.99

03:06:55.000 People are fucking malleable, man, in the weirdest way. 0.99

03:06:58.000 And we've got to recognize that and stop failing. 0.99

03:07:00.000 Thinking that those people on the right, I don't even understand how you think over there.

03:07:04.000 I don't know how you sleep at night.

03:07:06.000 And they're looking the same way that you. 1.00

03:07:07.000 Like, you fucking idiot. 1.00

03:07:09.000 You don't know who runs the banks. 1.00

03:07:10.000 You don't know who's the military industrial complex. 1.00

03:07:14.000 Yeah, it's because you attach meaning to shit that has no fucking meaning. 1.00

03:07:19.000 Exactly. 1.00

03:07:19.000 And like, I almost ruined my own goddamn wedding last week because my girl's pregnant. 1.00

03:07:25.000 And she didn't want to come to the dinner the night before the wedding. 0.98

03:07:28.000 And I kept calling it a rehearsal dinner. 0.99

03:07:30.000 But it's a fucking shotgun wedding with nine people. 1.00

03:07:32.000 It's not a rehearsal. 1.00

03:07:33.000 No one's rehearsing shit. 0.99

03:07:34.000 Where everyone's just there being like, get her on the insurance. 0.99

03:07:39.000 And she didn't want to come to dinner.

03:07:41.000 I got really upset.

03:07:42.000 I felt embarrassed.

03:07:44.000 I was like, how could you embarrass me in front of my family and the two friends that are here?

03:07:49.000 Why would you not come?

03:07:50.000 And she's like, because it's not a rehearsal dinner, it doesn't mean what you're attaching this meaning to.

03:07:57.000 I love you.

03:07:57.000 I want to marry you.

03:07:58.000 I don't feel good.

03:07:59.000 I'm pregnant.

03:08:00.000 I want to go to sleep. 0.99

03:08:01.000 I could not fucking let it go. 0.98

03:08:02.000 Oh no. 0.99

03:08:03.000 And I was like, if you don't come to dinner, I'm not marrying you.

03:08:09.000 And she didn't come and she goes, you know what?

03:08:11.000 I don't want to marry you.

03:08:12.000 And 7am of the day of the wedding last week, I thought I wasn't getting married.

03:08:18.000 Oh no.

03:08:19.000 I was in shambles and she brought me to my knees and I literally, I just had to say to her, I said...

03:08:26.000 Wrong or right, I really can't see my life without you.

03:08:30.000 I can't.

03:08:31.000 I can't.

03:08:32.000 And I was like, for once, I don't need to try to be right. 0.99

03:08:35.000 I don't need to win a fucking argument. 0.99

03:08:37.000 I don't need to attach meaning to this thing that doesn't mean shit. 0.99

03:08:40.000 Because what would be really whack... 0.98

03:08:43.000 Is if I didn't get to live my life with you.

03:08:45.000 How many people have made the wrong choice like that with someone? 0.99

03:08:49.000 And then wound up just fucking miserable. 0.98

03:08:52.000 And you see that person go off to get married to someone else and have kids, like, oh no. 0.99

03:08:57.000 Dude, the moment flashed before my eyes and I, like, it was a moment of truth.

03:09:02.000 And for two and a half hours, I really...

03:09:05.000 Because she left.

03:09:06.000 She packed her bags and left. 0.95

03:09:07.000 Didn't tell me she went to her mom's room, but I thought she left, left.

03:09:11.000 And I had to sit there and just be like, dude, very few things are worth it, but this relationship, like romance, love, that's worth it. 0.99

03:09:22.000 This other shit's not worth it. 0.99

03:09:24.000 Yeah, well, it's so tempting in the moment when you're hot and you're mad. 1.00

03:09:30.000 Just go, well, fuck this little thing. 1.00

03:09:32.000 I'll fucking move on with my life. 1.00

03:09:34.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

03:09:36.000 It's easy to bail on things.

03:09:37.000 But it also depends entirely upon the relationship.

03:09:40.000 It seems like you have a really good relationship.

03:09:43.000 Sometimes people should bail.

03:09:45.000 No, sometimes you gotta bail.

03:09:47.000 Sometimes you gotta bail!

03:09:49.000 Yeah, this one I had to stay in because I'm like, I've never felt this way.

03:09:53.000 The feelings are real. 0.98

03:09:55.000 But if the feelings weren't real, yeah, get the fuck out. 0.98

03:09:57.000 Bro, sometimes you're in a bad spot. 0.98

03:09:59.000 You're like, oh my god, this poor guy.

03:10:00.000 Yeah.

03:10:01.000 You gotta get out, bro.

03:10:02.000 Yeah.

03:10:02.000 This ain't getting better.

03:10:03.000 It's not always right to go for it, but if you know...

03:10:06.000 If you know.

03:10:07.000 Yeah.

03:10:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:10:08.000 And you know, I think every one of us...

03:10:10.000 No.

03:10:11.000 Hopefully.

03:10:11.000 The problem is when a girl's really hot, they can trick you.

03:10:15.000 You can think you know.

03:10:17.000 You're like, you're Willy.

03:10:19.000 I don't think there's anything like it in the world where it's that convincing. 0.99

03:10:24.000 Yeah, my girl is hot, but she also shit on the floor, and I got a clear look at her. 1.00

03:10:29.000 It seems like you guys know each other for real. 1.00

03:10:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:10:34.000 She pushed me to the brink shitting in my pants. 0.99

03:10:37.000 I think for most guys, a really hot woman has an insane amount of control over you. 1.00

03:10:44.000 It's hard to...

03:10:46.000 Most guys will never experience what a really hot woman is like just to be around and she's attracted to you.

03:10:54.000 If you took a guy, you take some... 0.71

03:10:57.000 Like Elizabeth Hurley in her prime looking...

03:11:00.000 Yo, that's crazy.

03:11:01.000 She's my top for me.

03:11:02.000 She still looks great.

03:11:03.000 She's 150 years old.

03:11:05.000 Versace pin dress.

03:11:07.000 Bro, she still looks great. 0.99

03:11:10.000 Do you know how much influence she would have over the average guy? 1.00

03:11:13.000 If you really did believe that she was in love with you, you're like, I'm quitting my job.

03:11:17.000 What do I have to do?

03:11:18.000 Tell me what to do.

03:11:19.000 Tell me where to move. 1.00

03:11:20.000 I almost moved to fucking Boston. 0.99

03:11:23.000 But you know, the thing is, I felt this way. 0.99

03:11:27.000 90 days is the amount of time I realized a hot woman loses my attention. 1.00

03:11:33.000 Only 90?

03:11:34.000 90 days.

03:11:34.000 After that, they become a regular person.

03:11:36.000 Yeah, because I'm trying to hit it as many times as I can.

03:11:39.000 Over 90 and then you're out of jizz and you're like, hey, who are you? 0.86

03:11:42.000 Yeah, 90 days of nutting, I'm like, alright.

03:11:47.000 So, what else do we have to talk about? 0.99

03:11:51.000 I don't have any cum left. 0.96

03:11:53.000 Let's develop a friendship. 0.92

03:11:54.000 Let's find shared interests.

03:11:56.000 Then you need conversation.

03:11:58.000 Yeah.

03:11:59.000 Yeah, if you get lucky and you find someone that you really enjoy, it makes life a better place.

03:12:04.000 That's for sure.

03:12:05.000 But it's all about you also have to be worthy of getting lucky.

03:12:08.000 Like, you have to be someone who, when they meet you, they think they got lucky.

03:12:12.000 Like, oh, he's so nice.

03:12:13.000 He's so fun.

03:12:14.000 This is great.

03:12:15.000 They want to...

03:12:16.000 They also want to...

03:12:17.000 It can't just be a good deal for you.

03:12:19.000 Yeah.

03:12:19.000 How long have you been with your wife?

03:12:21.000 We've been a while, man.

03:12:22.000 Married for 13 years, 14 years.

03:12:25.000 Yeah.

03:12:26.000 Yeah.

03:12:26.000 She's the best.

03:12:27.000 How'd you meet her?

03:12:28.000 I get along great with her, man.

03:12:30.000 I met her at a bar.

03:12:31.000 I get along great with her because I, like, first of all, she's easily as funny as me.

03:12:38.000 Like, when we go out, which is very important, like, if you're a comedian and the person you're with is not funny, that can be a bummer.

03:12:48.000 You know?

03:12:49.000 Just generally, if your partner's not funny, it's impossible.

03:12:52.000 But if we go out, like if we're on a double date, she's the one who usually goes for it. 0.99

03:12:55.000 She's the one who says hilarious shit. 1.00

03:12:57.000 She's making me laugh. 1.00

03:12:58.000 She's got great timing.

03:12:59.000 She's very funny.

03:13:00.000 She's also just like the nicest person I know.

03:13:03.000 Being with someone that you really love, it changes how you interface with the world.

03:13:09.000 You talk about incels, and you talk about women that are single, that are in their 60s.

03:13:17.000 There's a lot of people that are in despair out there because we have this connection to each other that we sometimes don't recognize.

03:13:26.000 We sometimes don't talk about it or think about it.

03:13:32.000 Human beings are not meant to be alone.

03:13:35.000 We're meant to be in a tribe of people that are learning from each other and communicating with each other.

03:13:41.000 And when people get older and they just lose...

03:13:43.000 We're talking about old, hot ladies. 1.00

03:13:46.000 When ladies are hot and they're young, they're... 1.00

03:13:49.000 I mean...

03:13:52.000 They're the most, they're so attractive and so confusing to men.

03:13:57.000 Like when you're around them, like you're on drugs, you're like, Jesus Christ, what am I saying? 0.99

03:14:01.000 You feel yourself stammering over your words, you're nervous, you're reaching for doors and shit. 0.98

03:14:07.000 But then when they get older, all that goes away. 0.99

03:14:10.000 And that's a crazy turn of events.

03:14:14.000 That's a crazy turn of events when so much of your life in the young years is about being attractive and then it goes away.

03:14:25.000 You know? 0.99

03:14:27.000 Damn, I hope that doesn't happen. 0.99

03:14:29.000 I think we're going to have hot robots. 0.99

03:14:32.000 I would love some hot robots.

03:14:35.000 For those people, we're going to have hot robots. 0.99

03:14:37.000 Imagine if you go over to Nana's house and fucking Tarzan's taking care of her. 1.00

03:14:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:14:42.000 You open the door to the dude with a loincloth.

03:14:45.000 Oh, no, no, no. 0.90

03:14:45.000 Sweaty, like a little slightly dirty body. 0.90

03:14:49.000 Yeah, that's Grandma's Tarzan robot that's been just gorilla fucking her. 1.00

03:14:53.000 See, we'll have to revisit... 0.98

03:14:54.000 Yo, you know what, though?

03:14:55.000 I saw a shorty on CNN last... 0.97

03:14:57.000 I was randomly watching CNN, and there was, like, a lady who's, like, an attractive lady, and she's, like, 60 years old on CNN. Some hot ladies out there that get old. 1.00

03:15:07.000 Rosemary something.

03:15:08.000 And I'm like, I mean, we can revisit this in 20 years, but I feel like...

03:15:13.000 I definitely can affirmatively say my relationship is not built around how attractive wifey is, even though she is. 1.00

03:15:23.000 I like what you're doing here.

03:15:24.000 You're hedging your bets.

03:15:25.000 I'm hedging my bets.

03:15:26.000 Being smart.

03:15:27.000 A disclaimer, a little social disclaimer.

03:15:29.000 Yeah, she is attractive, but I feel I'm pretty assertive.

03:15:32.000 That's not the most important thing.

03:15:34.000 It's not the most important thing.

03:15:35.000 It's a big bonus, right?

03:15:38.000 Right?

03:15:39.000 But she genuinely makes me better.

03:15:42.000 Because I'm like, I don't listen to nobody.

03:15:44.000 And I listen to her because I respect her.

03:15:47.000 She's smarter than me.

03:15:49.000 But two, she's one of the few people I know cares about me genuinely and is not self-interested.

03:15:56.000 So I listen.

03:15:57.000 And I get better because I don't listen to nobody.

03:16:00.000 Sometimes you need somebody to listen to.

03:16:01.000 You need someone who has your best interest and someone who really does care about you.

03:16:05.000 Because we all got, we can't see everything. 0.99

03:16:07.000 There's shit that a lot of people had said to me before, but I only listened to her, and I'm like, damn. 0.99

03:16:12.000 Yeah, I hate that term, partner. 1.00

03:16:14.000 But, you know, only because two people use it in this stupid cultural sense. 0.99

03:16:19.000 Like, this is my partner. 1.00

03:16:21.000 Shut up. 1.00

03:16:22.000 But, on the other hand, they are a partner. 0.99

03:16:26.000 Someone who's a good husband or a good wife is a life partner.

03:16:29.000 Yeah.

03:16:30.000 It's very important.

03:16:31.000 I would never introduce her as a partner.

03:16:33.000 That's whack. 0.98

03:16:34.000 That's gross! 0.88

03:16:34.000 Yeah, it's just whack to me. 0.88

03:16:36.000 This is my partner.

03:16:37.000 Okay, we're never being friends.

03:16:39.000 Yeah, like, you're not, you know, you're not eating it front to back if you're calling him partner.

03:16:44.000 Tim Kennedy told a story on this podcast about going to Starbucks, and he orders something for his wife, and the person, the barista, corrects him and says, your partner?

03:16:56.000 And he goes, no, my wife.

03:16:59.000 What are you talking about?

03:17:00.000 You can't decide what I call my wife. 1.00

03:17:03.000 You can't change it.

03:17:05.000 You mean your partner?

03:17:06.000 Like, what are you doing?

03:17:07.000 Am I being berated here? 0.99

03:17:09.000 It's so silly.

03:17:10.000 I respect it if other people, you want to do it, you want to say it, fine, but don't come in my house and tell me. 1.00

03:17:16.000 That's the problem with this ideology shit. 0.96

03:17:20.000 It's like it gets in people and they think that they have the right to correct you and tell you what to do because you're not following along. 0.99

03:17:27.000 There is zero thing that's degrading about being a wife.

03:17:33.000 Zero.

03:17:34.000 It doesn't have any definition to you other than the fact that you're married.

03:17:39.000 That's it.

03:17:39.000 It doesn't mean that you're not super successful, smart, make more money than the man.

03:17:44.000 It doesn't mean anything.

03:17:45.000 Just means you're the wife. 0.98

03:17:47.000 You're the female in the relationship. 0.77

03:17:49.000 For someone to correct you, like partner.

03:17:52.000 And I take pride in being her husband.

03:17:54.000 I want you to call me your husband.

03:17:56.000 And if you want to call me...

03:17:58.000 Partner.

03:17:58.000 You know, if I want to call you babe and you want to call me the conquistador, wonderful.

03:18:02.000 You're always going to tell me not to.

03:18:04.000 What are we, a buddy cop duo?

03:18:04.000 Partner?

03:18:05.000 The fuck is that? 1.00

03:18:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

03:18:06.000 The fuck is this? 1.00

03:18:07.000 Yeah, we turn her in a fucking gooch. 1.00

03:18:10.000 We're Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte. 1.00

03:18:13.000 Fucking partners. 1.00

03:18:14.000 Shut up. 1.00

03:18:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:18:16.000 You get lucky though.

03:18:17.000 I got lucky.

03:18:18.000 And it seems like you got lucky too.

03:18:19.000 You can get lucky.

03:18:20.000 And you can also, you know, you got to be someone that someone wants to be with too.

03:18:27.000 That's what's hard.

03:18:29.000 It's hard to get yourself to a point where you're not annoying.

03:18:34.000 I'm working on not being annoying.

03:18:36.000 I'm really trying.

03:18:38.000 I'm learning. 0.99

03:18:39.000 Yo, I was like, fuck, I'm annoying. 0.99

03:18:41.000 And it's only because I care about her, you know? 0.99

03:18:44.000 Well, that's how you grow, right?

03:18:46.000 When people you love think you're annoying, you go, you're right, you're right, I'm sorry.

03:18:50.000 Yeah.

03:18:50.000 Gotta say it.

03:18:51.000 She'd be expressing I'm annoying.

03:18:53.000 And at first it's like feelings hurt.

03:18:55.000 Then I'm like, ah, that was annoying.

03:18:56.000 I would be annoyed too.

03:18:58.000 What are you going to do?

03:18:59.000 Yeah.

03:19:00.000 Well, hey, my brother.

03:19:00.000 It was great catching up with you.

03:19:01.000 I think we did like three and a half hours, right?

03:19:03.000 Amazing. 0.98

03:19:04.000 Yeah, it's fucking 4.48. 0.98

03:19:06.000 Time flew. 0.98

03:19:06.000 I got to fly back. 0.98

03:19:07.000 When are you flying back?

03:19:08.000 Tonight?

03:19:08.000 Tonight, yeah.

03:19:09.000 Oh, okay.

03:19:10.000 Thank you for having me, man.

03:19:11.000 My pleasure.

03:19:12.000 Next time, I want to show you the club.

03:19:14.000 Next time, come.

03:19:14.000 I'll show you the club.

03:19:15.000 Yeah, I got to come.

03:19:16.000 This was so much fun.

03:19:17.000 We'll do it again.

03:19:18.000 Yeah, thanks.

03:19:19.000 All right, brother.

03:19:19.000 Thank you.

03:19:19.000 Bye.

03:19:32.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 29, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #1962 - Eddie Huang

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