The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1981

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00:00:12.000 No, you're fine.

00:00:13.000 It's okay.

00:00:14.000 Come on, man.

00:00:14.000 You don't have a child.

00:00:15.000 Burt crushes his head twice as yours.

00:00:16.000 He wears them.

00:00:17.000 Okay.

00:00:17.000 You can adjust it, too.

00:00:18.000 I feel like I'm going up to the mothership with these things.

00:00:21.000 Dude, you fucking killed at the mothership.

00:00:25.000 That was the funniest I've ever seen.

00:00:27.000 You were so loose and so silly.

00:00:29.000 It was fun to see, man.

00:00:30.000 First of all, you could tell you've been doing stand-up.

00:00:33.000 You look super comfortable, but you were so loose.

00:00:38.000 It's, you know, it's stand-up, as you know, is a rhythm, you know, and you just kind of figure it out when you're on stage and you never know what the fuck's gonna happen.

00:00:46.000 Yeah.

00:00:47.000 Yeah, he just, that night was just, you know, David was nice enough to let me on his show.

00:00:53.000 And after I, you know, put my finger under his boob sweat, I went like this.

00:00:59.000 I like to do that a lot.

00:01:00.000 And then he's got sweaty brows, and I did it like that, and it got me excited.

00:01:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:06.000 And then I went, and then I saw Montgomery, and he had to flip his hair over, and then I punched Hans in the stomach, and then I got on stage, it was all happening.

00:01:15.000 Perfect sequence of events.

00:01:17.000 So, no, what you said up there, it's in my veins.

00:01:23.000 It's really in my veins.

00:01:25.000 Just the second I walked in that room...

00:01:27.000 I just felt this focus.

00:01:30.000 And that's what I said to you.

00:01:31.000 I just really feel like there's a focus there.

00:01:34.000 Well, that club was a rock and roll club.

00:01:37.000 You see the picture that's in the tunnel when you walk onto the stage?

00:01:42.000 When you see the big picture of Steve Ray Vaughan?

00:01:44.000 That's him performing on that stage in 1983. That's the old Alamo Drafthouse.

00:01:50.000 It was only the Alamo Drafthouse from, I think it was like 2007 on.

00:01:55.000 Before that, it had been a bunch of things.

00:01:57.000 It was a pool hall at one point in time.

00:01:58.000 It was a nudie movie theater at one point in time.

00:02:01.000 It was a punk rock club.

00:02:03.000 Like all the posters that you see that are in the green room, Those are all posters of people performing at the Ritz.

00:02:10.000 It's all like the misfits.

00:02:11.000 Oh, so it was the Ritz before the Alamo.

00:02:14.000 Yes.

00:02:15.000 Oh, it's been the Ritz since 1927. It has to stay the Ritz.

00:02:18.000 No matter what it is, that sign, the Ritz, always exists because it's a historical landmark.

00:02:23.000 Right.

00:02:24.000 Yeah.

00:02:25.000 I know.

00:02:26.000 Well, you gutted it out, though.

00:02:29.000 I mean, are you allowed to say how much money you spent on it?

00:02:32.000 Yeah, well, I'm allowed to say it.

00:02:34.000 Oh, you don't say it?

00:02:35.000 No.

00:02:36.000 Okay, well, you spent a lot of money on it.

00:02:38.000 Yeah, you had to spend money.

00:02:39.000 And those two stages were- You have to pay construction people.

00:02:41.000 Yeah, no, I get it.

00:02:44.000 Yeah, they did a great job.

00:02:45.000 They fucking nailed it.

00:02:46.000 Were there two stages before?

00:02:48.000 Yes.

00:02:48.000 Oh, wow.

00:02:49.000 They had converted it, when they converted it to the movie theater, I think that's when they turned it into two rooms.

00:02:54.000 Huh.

00:02:55.000 Yeah.

00:02:55.000 I don't know how they did it, but we have the same architect, fortunately.

00:02:59.000 So he knew exactly all the bones.

00:03:01.000 The beams and all that stuff.

00:03:02.000 Yeah, all that stuff.

00:03:03.000 Where are the electricals?

00:03:04.000 Yeah.

00:03:04.000 So, you know, there's this thing that's happening, you know, and obviously I've been in it my whole life, you know, since I was four.

00:03:13.000 Yeah.

00:03:14.000 And, you know, and it's, you know, first of all, I'm so proud of you.

00:03:19.000 Thank you.

00:03:19.000 You know, I see you sometimes and we give each other hugs.

00:03:23.000 Yeah.

00:03:23.000 I say, I love you, but I don't get to say how proud I am of you.

00:03:26.000 I've seen you for years and on behalf of my mom, too, because I know how much you love her and I know how much she means to you.

00:03:42.000 And I know how far you've come.

00:03:44.000 I know how far you've come.

00:03:45.000 Because I remember when you first stepped at the store, and I remember seeing you in Boston.

00:03:50.000 And I remember, because we're the same age, and we came up at the same time.

00:03:54.000 Yeah.

00:03:54.000 And I'm so proud of you, dude.

00:03:56.000 That's very nice, man.

00:03:57.000 Thank you.

00:04:00.000 When you worked with Chappelle, I was like, this guy's fucking funny.

00:04:04.000 You know, like really funny, dude.

00:04:05.000 And I'm not just saying that because, you know, you become this, you know, this massive business and you're just this...

00:04:14.000 I'm saying that from comic to comic.

00:04:17.000 I'm really proud of you.

00:04:18.000 Thank you very much.

00:04:19.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:04:20.000 Yeah, and you're funny, dude.

00:04:23.000 Well, no, for real.

00:04:25.000 Because I've seen it all.

00:04:26.000 I've seen the best.

00:04:27.000 You know, I see you on stage.

00:04:29.000 I see Kennison.

00:04:30.000 You know, I've seen Kennison.

00:04:32.000 I've seen Pryor.

00:04:33.000 I've seen Eddie.

00:04:34.000 I've seen all these guys at their best.

00:04:36.000 And then when I saw you at MGM, I'm like, fuck, dude.

00:04:39.000 You're really, like, in the pocket.

00:04:42.000 Thank you.

00:04:42.000 You're not pushing it.

00:04:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:04:44.000 And it's great.

00:04:45.000 I've been doing a lot of sets, and moving out to here, it kind of changed everything.

00:04:50.000 First of all, I realized how important the store was.

00:04:52.000 Like, I knew I was going to live out here, but...

00:04:55.000 That having a community and having a place where you get to see people do sets all the time and you work with killers like all the time on the road the thing is you don't really work with other people that much you work with the two people that you bring with you or one person you bring with you and And you're not,

00:05:11.000 like, in the mix with all the killers.

00:05:15.000 And I think that that's very critical to what we do.

00:05:18.000 Well, that's what you've done out here.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, that was the thing to do.

00:05:22.000 It was, like, the thing to do.

00:05:23.000 There were so many comics that had decided to move here.

00:05:26.000 And a lot of them knew that I tried to do it at another place and it didn't work out.

00:05:32.000 So that was, like, a big delay.

00:05:34.000 That took, like, an extra year.

00:05:36.000 It took a long-ass time.

00:05:38.000 Yeah, I mean, Hans, Montgomery, David Lucas, these, you know, working with Tony, and just seeing these guys grow, and now they're fucking headlining shows.

00:05:49.000 Yeah.

00:05:49.000 I mean, it's fucking dope.

00:05:51.000 Derek Poston.

00:05:51.000 You've seen Derek and Asana Mod.

00:05:53.000 Those guys are killing it.

00:05:54.000 They're so much tighter.

00:05:55.000 And they're doing so many sets.

00:05:57.000 Because we're doing two shows a night in both rooms.

00:06:00.000 So there's two shows in each room.

00:06:01.000 Yeah.

00:06:02.000 So they're getting all this stage time.

00:06:05.000 There's open mic nights, two nights a week, just like the store.

00:06:08.000 Yeah.

00:06:08.000 I talked to Lucas at the store who works at the bar and I'm like, dude, you got to just move out to Austin because this is happening out here.

00:06:15.000 Lucas Earl?

00:06:16.000 He's a funny dude.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, he's very funny.

00:06:18.000 And he's a nice guy and he cares.

00:06:20.000 And like you just said, your guys are becoming monsters on stage and a lot of it has to do with the platform.

00:06:28.000 That you gave them, you know, and I love the fact that you put the phones in the purses, you know, they put the phones in the underbags.

00:06:38.000 Yeah, it's fucking, I think every comedy club should do that.

00:06:41.000 That is a definite sense of freedom.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, there's that too.

00:06:44.000 And it also keeps people from being distracted.

00:06:47.000 Like people are just so addicted to their fucking phones.

00:06:50.000 I know.

00:06:50.000 It makes the show better.

00:06:51.000 I wanted to put this in a yonder here and it's already, it's off.

00:06:55.000 I still want to, I just want to fucking throw it.

00:06:57.000 One of the things I've learned from doing this podcast is that it's really the only time during the day where I get to sit for a few hours and not look at my phone.

00:07:08.000 I'm not always just checking my email, checking my text message, responding to the text message I haven't responded to, trying to keep up with email.

00:07:16.000 It's overwhelming.

00:07:18.000 Yeah, I just did a five-day pretty intense group therapy that I've been involved with since I was 19 years old and deals with a lot of trauma.

00:07:28.000 Different things like that.

00:07:29.000 And I'm actually a staff.

00:07:31.000 I kind of help people out with the stuff they go through.

00:07:34.000 And in return, when you help people out, you get help too.

00:07:38.000 Like, for instance, for me, you know, I've been doing it since I was 19. And it's a five-day program, and it just helped me deal with the trauma, you know, my parents passing, and, you know, just different things that have happened personally in my life.

00:07:55.000 Because, you know, I know when I was on here last time, I was talking about the career and this and that, and all these different things.

00:08:01.000 And, you know, a lot of those things that, you know, happen to us as people and people listening aren't who we are.

00:08:08.000 It's kind of—it's things that have happened to us that we become angry or become sad or— We become depressed.

00:08:15.000 But it's not who we are, because who we are, we start off as innocent babies.

00:08:20.000 You know, we go into the world and all these fucked up things kind of happen to us.

00:08:25.000 And, you know, the stuff with my family and the store and my mom, you know, I'm not just a whatever guy.

00:08:31.000 I'm not Donald Trump.

00:08:32.000 You know, even though probably underneath it, he's probably fucked up.

00:08:36.000 But I don't have, you know, but as far as being a turtle shell.

00:08:39.000 Yeah, I have this emotion.

00:08:40.000 I got that from my mom and my dad.

00:08:43.000 And it's hard.

00:08:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:46.000 It's hard.

00:08:48.000 So I feel pretty good.

00:08:51.000 And it's difficult.

00:08:53.000 But I want to look into the future, my next 30 years.

00:08:57.000 And I just want to try to be joyful.

00:09:00.000 And my thing is half full.

00:09:03.000 A lot of us in life, we always look at other people.

00:09:06.000 And we're always going...

00:09:09.000 I can look at Adam Sandler.

00:09:11.000 I can look at all these guys that are just...

00:09:12.000 Or I can look at the fact of what I have.

00:09:16.000 And I'm not the only one.

00:09:19.000 I think everyone should think about that because especially, like you said, with social media...

00:09:26.000 Everyone compares themselves, how many people are watching, how many people like us, and all that shit.

00:09:32.000 Yeah, that's so fucked up for kids.

00:09:34.000 Because they're just constantly comparing each other's likes and, you know, who's got more followers, and they're all competing against each other, and then you hear about these kids that are like YouTube stars that are 14, 15 years old, and they've got millions of followers.

00:09:49.000 Like, what's the youngest YouTube star that has like a giant following?

00:09:55.000 These kids are essentially getting like...

00:09:57.000 The toys.

00:09:58.000 Wasn't he like seven and he had like...

00:10:00.000 Oh yeah, that guy.

00:10:00.000 That's insane.

00:10:01.000 Maybe he's ten now.

00:10:02.000 Yeah, that guy.

00:10:03.000 That's insane.

00:10:04.000 That little kid probably can't go anywhere.

00:10:06.000 Imagine him trying to go to the park.

00:10:07.000 All the little kids probably freak out.

00:10:09.000 Where's the toys, bitch?

00:10:10.000 What'd you do with the extra toys?

00:10:12.000 But what about you?

00:10:13.000 I mean, you've really...

00:10:16.000 I mean, I've seen it.

00:10:19.000 Everyone has seen it.

00:10:20.000 You've just really...

00:10:21.000 I mean, how do people get to you?

00:10:24.000 It's difficult, right?

00:10:25.000 No, but you know what I'm saying?

00:10:27.000 For instance, you don't have a booker on this show.

00:10:31.000 Well, I do, but I choose.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, you're the booker.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, but it's not like someone picks the lineup and then I go over it with them.

00:10:42.000 No.

00:10:43.000 For instance, Nicholas Cage is my next-door neighbor in Las Vegas.

00:10:47.000 He's a friend.

00:10:48.000 I've known him for many years.

00:10:49.000 How would he get to you if he wanted to be on the show?

00:10:51.000 Oh, I'd love to have him on.

00:10:52.000 I love that guy.

00:10:53.000 He's awesome.

00:10:54.000 I saw a video they did about his house in Vegas.

00:10:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:57.000 60 Minutes, right?

00:10:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:00.000 He's awesome.

00:11:00.000 I love that guy.

00:11:01.000 I met him once a long time ago at a boxing gym.

00:11:04.000 He was there with his son.

00:11:05.000 His son was taking lessons at this boxing gym that I used to work out in Hollywood.

00:11:11.000 Super nice guy.

00:11:13.000 But it was a weird one.

00:11:14.000 It was like, whoa, that's Nicolas Cage.

00:11:16.000 Just hanging out in the boxing gym with a kid.

00:11:18.000 So how do people like that get to you to get on your show?

00:11:21.000 Just like this.

00:11:22.000 Like this.

00:11:22.000 He texts you, you text me, hey, what's up?

00:11:25.000 Nice to meet you.

00:11:27.000 He would be great on your show.

00:11:28.000 Yeah, yeah, he'd be awesome.

00:11:28.000 He's a fun dude.

00:11:29.000 He's fucking, I mean...

00:11:31.000 With that Nicolas Cage movie?

00:11:33.000 What was it?

00:11:35.000 I don't want to fuck the title, but him and Pedro Pascal.

00:11:37.000 Oh my god, that movie's good.

00:11:39.000 Yeah, he's the unbearable weight of massive talent.

00:11:42.000 Yeah.

00:11:43.000 It's so good.

00:11:43.000 Because Mark Maron I see at the store all the time, and he's always like, you know, you're Nicolas Cage, your next door neighbor.

00:11:52.000 You know, he has a podcast.

00:11:54.000 And I text Nick.

00:11:55.000 I'm like, yo, my friend Mark Maron wants to be on the podcast, and he didn't text me back.

00:12:02.000 So, I mean, not to diss Mark Miriam, I don't know.

00:12:06.000 Maybe he was just too busy.

00:12:08.000 Maybe he went on a retreat.

00:12:09.000 The what?

00:12:10.000 A retreat.

00:12:11.000 Maybe he put his phone down for a week.

00:12:12.000 Maybe he did one of those things.

00:12:14.000 Could be.

00:12:15.000 So, I think he'd be great on this.

00:12:18.000 If I know any people that I think that you would like, I'll pass it to.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:12:22.000 Please do.

00:12:24.000 It's a weird thing to, you know, have like this sort of a show.

00:12:30.000 Yeah.

00:12:30.000 But I got to keep doing it the way I've always done it.

00:12:33.000 This is the way I've always done it.

00:12:34.000 This is when you started in the basement with Red Band, right?

00:12:37.000 Well, we were in a...

00:12:38.000 You were on your couch, right?

00:12:40.000 On my couch, and then we moved to...

00:12:42.000 I had a spare bedroom that I'd converted into an office.

00:12:45.000 So then we converted my office into the podcast studio.

00:12:48.000 Yeah.

00:12:49.000 So it was half my office, half of it was the podcast studio.

00:12:52.000 It was like so...

00:12:53.000 It was so, dude, it was so like Wayne and Garth, you know, right?

00:12:58.000 Just like in the basement.

00:12:59.000 You know what it was?

00:13:00.000 It was the response to, I always wanted, I loved the hang of being on those morning talk shows, but I knew that nobody would ever give me one.

00:13:09.000 And I probably wasn't good at it anyway.

00:13:11.000 Podcasting is like anything else, I think.

00:13:13.000 I think you get better at it the more you do it.

00:13:15.000 If you go back and listen to my early ones, I was terrible.

00:13:17.000 You get better at it.

00:13:19.000 And I think that what we missed was the Opie and Anthony hang.

00:13:24.000 You do the Opie and Anthony show, it was a bunch of comics just sitting around talking shit about things.

00:13:28.000 It was so fun.

00:13:29.000 So do you ever prepare for your interviews?

00:13:32.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:13:32.000 Oh, really?

00:13:33.000 Depending on who they are.

00:13:34.000 Right, so did you prepare for this?

00:13:36.000 No.

00:13:36.000 No, you're my friend.

00:13:37.000 He's like, fuck that guy.

00:13:39.000 I don't have to prepare for you.

00:13:39.000 This is gonna fuck.

00:13:40.000 No, I have to prepare for things like...

00:13:42.000 Oh, like scientists and things like that.

00:13:43.000 Yeah, like if someone's coming on to discuss something really crazy, like I really have to pay attention to what the questions are that I can ask.

00:13:52.000 Like we had Michio Kaku was on yesterday.

00:13:54.000 Michio Kaku!

00:13:56.000 Do you know who he is?

00:13:57.000 I heard about him.

00:13:58.000 He's a scientist, right?

00:14:00.000 Yes, he's a quantum physicist.

00:14:01.000 And he was on discussing quantum computing and it's so...

00:14:06.000 I can't even open my laptop.

00:14:07.000 It's so above my head.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:09.000 It's so above my head.

00:14:10.000 It's so hard.

00:14:10.000 He's like...

00:14:12.000 He's so smart, it's like he's hanging out with toddlers.

00:14:17.000 When he was 17 years old, he made a particle collider in his garage.

00:14:23.000 I don't know what a particle collider is.

00:14:26.000 It's miles and miles of copper tubing and it sends something through it and he photographed antimatter in his garage with this device when he was 17. That's a different kind of human.

00:14:38.000 You know?

00:14:39.000 Seventeen, you were hanging out at the store.

00:14:41.000 Seventeen, I was in Newton, Massachusetts.

00:14:43.000 Like, being a moron.

00:14:45.000 Like, this guy was making a particle collider in his basement.

00:14:48.000 Or in his garage.

00:14:49.000 It's crazy.

00:14:50.000 There's people that are just...

00:14:51.000 They're so much smarter than you in different ways, right?

00:14:56.000 Like, I don't think he probably wouldn't be a great comic, but...

00:14:58.000 There's so...

00:14:59.000 So you had to do a little research for...

00:15:01.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 What's it called?

00:15:02.000 Michio Kaku.

00:15:03.000 Michio Kaku.

00:15:04.000 Michio Kaku.

00:15:05.000 But some even more than that.

00:15:07.000 Like, it depends on, you know, whatever the subject is.

00:15:09.000 Like, some people, I want to read their book first and then have them on to have questions.

00:15:15.000 Yeah.

00:15:16.000 And then as far as living out here now, being in Austin, Austin is very, I don't want to use the word liberal, but there's a lot of hipsters and people with skinny jeans and that stuff.

00:15:30.000 Is it weird being, because I don't want to say you're red or you're not red, because I don't fucking know.

00:15:34.000 Most people think you're red.

00:15:38.000 You're red living in a blue city in a red state.

00:15:43.000 That is, this is a blue city.

00:15:45.000 But I'm not really red.

00:15:46.000 That's what I don't think either.

00:15:48.000 No, no.

00:15:48.000 I've never voted Republican in my life.

00:15:51.000 Yeah, I think that both systems suck.

00:15:54.000 And I think that what I'm pushing back against is the crazy ideologies.

00:16:00.000 It has nothing to do with universal basic income.

00:16:03.000 It has nothing to do with welfare.

00:16:05.000 It has nothing to do with funding community programs and cleaning up cities.

00:16:10.000 Like, I'm all for all that stuff.

00:16:12.000 I'm even for higher taxes if I believe the government was competent with your money.

00:16:17.000 If it's higher taxes and it proves that we have less crime and the world's a safer place, that would be great.

00:16:24.000 But that doesn't seem like they know how to do that.

00:16:27.000 It seems like when you give a lot of money to the government, they create a lot of government jobs.

00:16:32.000 And those government jobs make those people a lot of money.

00:16:34.000 We looked into the homeless situation in L.A. And my friend Coleon Noir told me about this because he's a lawyer, and he went to San Francisco.

00:16:45.000 When he was in San Francisco, he was talking to someone.

00:16:46.000 He's like, why haven't they fixed the homeless things?

00:16:48.000 Is it like a funding issue?

00:16:50.000 And the guy was like, no, it's the opposite.

00:16:52.000 They make so much money.

00:16:53.000 The people that are in charge of dealing with the homeless situation, Some of them are making more than $200,000 a year, like $240,000 a year, and the homeless thing just keeps getting worse.

00:17:03.000 So what do you think it is?

00:17:05.000 Your opinion?

00:17:06.000 It's mental health.

00:17:07.000 It's people that are addicted to drugs.

00:17:10.000 There's a lot of soldiers, unfortunately.

00:17:13.000 There's a lot of vets that came back, and their experiences were very traumatic for them, and they never recovered, and maybe they got on drugs as well.

00:17:21.000 There's a lot of people with mental illness.

00:17:22.000 They need group therapy.

00:17:23.000 You know, it all started during the Reagan administration, I believe.

00:17:26.000 Check if this is true.

00:17:28.000 I think during the Reagan administration, they changed what they can do in terms of mental health institutes.

00:17:36.000 They decided to let people out.

00:17:39.000 There's certain people that have to be cared for.

00:17:42.000 They're so compromised that in a good, just society, you would care for those people.

00:17:49.000 And there would be a dedicated place, just like this dedicated place for people who have bad knees.

00:17:54.000 You go in to get surgery.

00:17:56.000 You know, they don't go, fucking walk it off, pussy.

00:17:59.000 Hobble around.

00:18:00.000 No, they have a place that's dedicated.

00:18:02.000 No, it's similar to AA, right?

00:18:05.000 I mean, AA is pretty much a place, you know, for...

00:18:09.000 We all have friends that are in AA, and they go there, and they have, what is it, the 10-step rules?

00:18:14.000 12. Or 12 steps.

00:18:16.000 What not to do when you physically walk in a bar.

00:18:18.000 So here it is.

00:18:19.000 1981, President Ronald Reagan, who had made major efforts during his governorship to reduce funding and enlistment for California mental institutions, pushed a political effort through the US Congress to repeal most of MHSA. The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy.

00:18:41.000 So I think what happened was when that MHSA Act got passed in 1980, what happened was they just started letting people out in the streets.

00:18:50.000 When I was a boy, I remember a marked increase in homeless people in Boston when this happened.

00:18:58.000 And I remember people talking about it.

00:19:01.000 And they're like, Dad, they're just letting him on the street now.

00:19:03.000 Like, that's not caring for someone.

00:19:06.000 That's not being kind.

00:19:07.000 That's insane.

00:19:08.000 And you would see people just having screaming matches with themselves.

00:19:11.000 Like, they're clearly mentally ill and clearly not on medication.

00:19:15.000 Just screaming at people that aren't there and fighting demons and shit.

00:19:20.000 No, you see it on the streets.

00:19:20.000 So if you were president...

00:19:22.000 In a serious, serious, because obviously you could probably run and probably win if you wanted to.

00:19:27.000 I know you don't want to.

00:19:28.000 I'm not running for anything.

00:19:30.000 I know, but I'm just saying, if you decided, and one of your arms was mental health, and that was, what would you do if you were talking to, say, Tony Hinchcliffe was in charge of the mental health, what would you tell him to do?

00:19:45.000 That's the last person I'd put in charge.

00:19:46.000 He'd have them all killed.

00:19:48.000 That's true.

00:19:49.000 Tony Hinchcliffe would tell them, hey guys, keep backing up.

00:19:52.000 We're going to take a picture.

00:19:53.000 Maybe the edge of a fucking cliff.

00:19:56.000 Tony Hinchcliffe's ruthless.

00:19:58.000 So what would you say to them?

00:19:59.000 It wouldn't be me, but if somebody was president, if they were going to fix this, what they would do is...

00:20:04.000 Re-institute something like that.

00:20:07.000 Change what that was and go back, not just to the old way, but even better.

00:20:13.000 Go back to a way where if you have someone who's mentally compromised, you know they could be cared for, and we would be willing to pay for that in taxes.

00:20:21.000 I'm sure we would.

00:20:22.000 I'm sure we would.

00:20:23.000 If they knocked homelessness down to like a tiny, tiny fraction of what it is now, and our tax dollars paid for mental health institutions, Who knows if that wasn't more profitable for the overall society?

00:20:36.000 It probably would be.

00:20:37.000 It would probably be more profitable if there was less break-ins, less crime, less people having overdoses in the streets, less assaults.

00:20:47.000 Les, I mean, who knows what horrific things go on in those encampments?

00:20:51.000 They basically have these chaos shantytowns in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the greatest country in the world.

00:20:59.000 And everyone's just tolerating it.

00:21:01.000 But meanwhile, if you jaywalk on sunset, they'll fucking arrest you.

00:21:05.000 Or at least they used to.

00:21:07.000 So back to the AA situation, because my father, Sammy, Sammy Shore, rest in peace, he was an alcoholic.

00:21:14.000 So he had to drink.

00:21:16.000 So it wasn't like one drink, but he had to keep going.

00:21:19.000 So that's what he did.

00:21:21.000 He had to stop and go to AA. So do you think there's something like that for people for mental health besides AA? Because there's some people that are addicted to it.

00:21:33.000 Well, I think, if anything, we should open up all possible options and make them legal, and that would include psychedelic therapies.

00:21:41.000 Because I know, personally, many people who have done Ibogaine.

00:21:45.000 Ibogaine is not a fun one, apparently.

00:21:47.000 I haven't experienced it myself, but it's a 24-hour Experience that just rips you down to the core of your being and explains to you in some strange way all the different moments in your life that have shaped you.

00:22:03.000 And all the different things that have become a problem.

00:22:05.000 People quit cigarettes like that after they do it.

00:22:07.000 They quit heroin like that.

00:22:09.000 It also does something strange to remap the mind.

00:22:12.000 Can you put up, is it ibocent?

00:22:14.000 What is it?

00:22:15.000 Ibogaine.

00:22:15.000 Can you put that up so we can just stare at it for a sec?

00:22:18.000 It's ibogaine.

00:22:19.000 Yeah, and it comes from the aboga tree.

00:22:21.000 I think it's from Africa.

00:22:23.000 Is it part of the ayahuasca thing?

00:22:25.000 No, it's different.

00:22:26.000 It's a different type of psychedelic.

00:22:28.000 And you think if you take that, or there's been studies, if you take that, then you can get rid of these things?

00:22:34.000 Yes.

00:22:34.000 Many, many, many people have gone and sought ibogaine therapy to get rid of pills, addiction to pills.

00:22:40.000 So then if you were president, which you're not, but you would tell your guy to say, go get some ibogaine and give it a thing for the people who...

00:22:48.000 People in jail or something?

00:22:50.000 What I would say to anybody who was gonna be president, like maybe a Tulsi Gabbard, that would be something to do.

00:22:55.000 If we could institute Ibogaine, if we had Ibogaine centers in this country where people could go and have these experiences, I think we could create better people.

00:23:05.000 We'd have less people that are addicted to pills.

00:23:07.000 I mean, is it going to be a one-size-fits-all for everybody?

00:23:10.000 No.

00:23:11.000 Nothing is.

00:23:13.000 Therapy isn't.

00:23:14.000 Psychedelics aren't.

00:23:16.000 Exercise isn't.

00:23:17.000 There's not a one-size-fits-all for anybody to fix your life.

00:23:19.000 But if there's anything that has been shown to be very effective, I think we should explore that.

00:23:24.000 If one of those things is illegal, that doesn't make any fucking sense.

00:23:27.000 And one of those things that is illegal is Ibogaine.

00:23:30.000 My mom, when she started to get sick with Parkinson's, we took her to the Bahamas, and she got fetal cells injected in her.

00:23:42.000 And that was something that she was...

00:23:47.000 She believed very strongly that she was like, put some baby cells in me.

00:23:54.000 Dude, it was fucking insane.

00:23:56.000 It was like me and Bob Wheeler, the comedy store accountant over there, we flew down to the Bahamas because you couldn't do it here.

00:24:03.000 Where did they get the baby tissue?

00:24:05.000 I don't know, dude.

00:24:07.000 I remember it like it was yesterday.

00:24:09.000 So we drove and the doctor and my mom paid like 20 grand or 10 or 15, whatever it was.

00:24:15.000 And within that, the package deal is the flight, the hotel, and then the baby fetuses.

00:24:24.000 So, we went down there, and a car picked us up.

00:24:28.000 It had a sign, Mitzi Shore.

00:24:30.000 And we went in there, and then we drove her the next morning, and we put her in a room with the doctor, and they injected her with fetal cells.

00:24:38.000 But I personally, because she had Parkinson's for a while, I personally think it actually helped her.

00:24:43.000 You know, I think it prolonged.

00:24:44.000 You know, because if you put the...

00:24:48.000 The baby cells in there, they're obviously baby cells.

00:24:52.000 Why is that so funny?

00:24:53.000 It's just so fucked up to think of.

00:24:56.000 She did it a couple times.

00:24:58.000 They've been shown with stem cells, just all kinds of stem cells.

00:25:03.000 Put the baby in me, what are you doing?

00:25:06.000 Stop fucking around!

00:25:07.000 Is that what she said?

00:25:07.000 Put it in me, let's go!

00:25:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:11.000 That's your mom.

00:25:12.000 It's so funny.

00:25:13.000 Oh, your mom was the best.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 I tell everybody that your mom was the number one- She was so funny, dude.

00:25:18.000 Number one most important person in comedy that wasn't a comedian.

00:25:21.000 Yeah.

00:25:22.000 Your mom, 100%.

00:25:23.000 Yeah.

00:25:24.000 She was number one.

00:25:25.000 So, so fucking- Yeah, everything lined up.

00:25:28.000 Yeah.

00:25:29.000 They don't use baby cells anymore.

00:25:31.000 But the baby thing, well, maybe they do.

00:25:34.000 What are you talking about?

00:25:35.000 They're great!

00:25:36.000 They really prolong my life!

00:25:38.000 That is the reason why it took so long for stem cells to get use and funding in America because the people, especially people on the right, thought that stem cells had to be like aborted fetuses.

00:25:52.000 Everyone connected.

00:25:53.000 You mean they're not?

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 What's going on?

00:25:56.000 So I remember when the really religious right-wing people were talking about that, I was like, oh no, like this is crazy.

00:26:02.000 They're killing babies for stem cells?

00:26:05.000 And then when I looked into it, I was like, oh no, no, no.

00:26:07.000 So there's a bunch of different, you get stem cells from bone marrow, you get stem cells from adipose tissue, from fat.

00:26:13.000 I need some for my penis.

00:26:14.000 Woo!

00:26:15.000 Whoa.

00:26:15.000 Hey.

00:26:16.000 Imagine if they figured out a way to make your dick bigger.

00:26:19.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:26:20.000 Or harder all the time.

00:26:21.000 It would just be like girls with giant tits.

00:26:22.000 Right.

00:26:23.000 That's what it would be like.

00:26:23.000 Guys would just completely overdo it.

00:26:26.000 They'd have a useless dick.

00:26:27.000 I mean, I think it's...

00:26:28.000 A lot of Instagram pictures of guys with useless dicks.

00:26:32.000 Just...

00:26:32.000 Nothing?

00:26:40.000 I mean, I think there should be something like that.

00:26:44.000 I mean, what do they take?

00:26:46.000 They take the fat off your butt and they put it in...

00:26:50.000 Into your dick?

00:26:50.000 Yeah, into your dick.

00:26:52.000 I don't think you should let them do that.

00:26:54.000 Right.

00:26:55.000 You know what?

00:26:56.000 I did have a bladder surgery.

00:26:59.000 Yeah?

00:26:59.000 Yeah, I did.

00:27:00.000 What happened to your bladder?

00:27:01.000 I was just peeing a lot.

00:27:03.000 Was it leaky or something?

00:27:04.000 No, it wasn't leaky.

00:27:05.000 What happened was I would go pee at night and then my bladder wouldn't empty.

00:27:10.000 So I'd go pee and then I'd lie back down.

00:27:12.000 I'm like, fuck, I still have more pee.

00:27:13.000 And I'd do that four or five times in the middle of the night.

00:27:17.000 And then I finally went to my doctor and he sent me up with a urologist at Cedars and he was this gay dude.

00:27:26.000 And imagine that a gay urologist, and this isn't a joke, this is real.

00:27:30.000 And he's like, let me see your dick.

00:27:32.000 I'm like, dude, that's not fucking cool.

00:27:34.000 Come on, let me see it!

00:27:36.000 The fuck?

00:27:38.000 And so I showed him my dick.

00:27:39.000 He's like, ooh.

00:27:40.000 I'm like, what the fuck?

00:27:42.000 No.

00:27:42.000 So I did a procedure called Resume.

00:27:46.000 So if you don't believe me, you can...

00:27:48.000 Why would I not believe you?

00:27:49.000 Well, I'm just saying, because it doesn't sound real.

00:27:51.000 It doesn't sound like you met an alien.

00:27:54.000 But it's resume.

00:27:56.000 I said, I go, what does this do?

00:27:57.000 He goes, well, once you do the procedure, then you resume how you used to pee before you had a pee problem.

00:28:03.000 So you wake up and they steam your prostate.

00:28:07.000 Steam it.

00:28:07.000 They steam it.

00:28:08.000 Press it.

00:28:08.000 Yeah, they steam it right there.

00:28:10.000 Resume procedure uses sterile water vapor, steam, that is injected into the enlarged portions of the prostate.

00:28:17.000 The steam causes the prostate cells that are responsible for the enlargement to die, which then leads to shrinkage of the prostate, which in turn creates a more open urinary pathway.

00:28:28.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:28:29.000 That's pretty cool.

00:28:30.000 It was a pretty easy procedure.

00:28:32.000 Science.

00:28:33.000 It was amazing.

00:28:34.000 Fix Paul's dick.

00:28:35.000 Science.

00:28:37.000 Don't do it.

00:28:38.000 Yeah, don't show the pictures.

00:28:39.000 I don't want to see someone's dick get steamed.

00:28:41.000 So you wake up in the morning or you wake up after the procedure.

00:28:45.000 It's only like a 15 minute procedure.

00:28:47.000 You wake up and I had a catheter in my dick.

00:28:50.000 Yay.

00:28:51.000 And then I had a piss bag right here connected to it.

00:28:54.000 So I said, how long do I have to wear this?

00:28:57.000 He goes, for a week.

00:28:58.000 I'm like, dude, that's fucked up.

00:28:59.000 So for a week, bro, I'm like saying high five to my friend.

00:29:02.000 I might have even seen you with a piss bag.

00:29:04.000 I had a piss bag, yeah.

00:29:05.000 So do you like tape it to your body?

00:29:07.000 No, you do a Velcro to your leg right here.

00:29:10.000 Whoa.

00:29:11.000 And so I had it for a whole weekend.

00:29:13.000 It was the best week of my life.

00:29:15.000 Because I'd be going to dinner with friends, just be pissing and fucking talking at the same time.

00:29:21.000 And they're like, what are we doing?

00:29:22.000 I'm like, don't worry, go on.

00:29:23.000 This is a great story.

00:29:24.000 This is fantastic.

00:29:25.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:29:26.000 And then I drove from, I remember driving from LA to Las Vegas, and it's a four-hour drive.

00:29:33.000 I didn't have to stop once.

00:29:34.000 But when I got to Vegas, I had a huge, like, piss tumor connected to my leg, because you just keep peeing, and then, you know.

00:29:42.000 At what point in time does it become disgusting?

00:29:44.000 Like, you're charting around a fucking sack of a week.

00:29:49.000 Yeah, after a week.

00:29:51.000 What's the longest you've gone without changing it?

00:29:53.000 For real.

00:29:54.000 Oh, no.

00:29:55.000 You never change it.

00:29:56.000 I mean, dump it out.

00:29:57.000 Oh.

00:29:58.000 You just, every couple hours, you dump it out.

00:29:59.000 Every couple hours.

00:30:00.000 Yeah.

00:30:00.000 Okay.

00:30:00.000 But then...

00:30:01.000 You never, like, walked around, like, four or five hours with a bag of piss trapped in?

00:30:04.000 No.

00:30:04.000 No, no.

00:30:05.000 But, uh...

00:30:07.000 So that was...

00:30:07.000 That's what I thought you were saying.

00:30:08.000 Isn't that what you thought he was saying?

00:30:09.000 Yeah.

00:30:10.000 We got confused.

00:30:11.000 So you have to change the actual physical bag itself.

00:30:14.000 Yeah.

00:30:15.000 Otherwise it probably smells.

00:30:17.000 Yeah.

00:30:17.000 But it worked good.

00:30:19.000 So if there's any of your listeners that pee a lot in the middle of the night, check out Resume.

00:30:22.000 Did you eat any asparagus?

00:30:24.000 I was just talking about that.

00:30:27.000 Oh, did you see my pee was green or something?

00:30:28.000 No, no, no.

00:30:29.000 Because if asparagus makes your pee smell.

00:30:32.000 Oh.

00:30:33.000 So I was wondering, like, could you smell it through the bag?

00:30:35.000 That would be interesting.

00:30:36.000 Because if, like, we all went to dinner, I'm like, Paulie, have some asparagus.

00:30:39.000 Like, if I knew that you had the piss bag on.

00:30:41.000 And then if I just smell asparagus pee, I'm like, you motherfucker.

00:30:45.000 Just sitting there peeing.

00:30:47.000 No.

00:30:47.000 Would you be upset?

00:30:49.000 You know what that is when you smell it.

00:30:50.000 I think I'll probably let everybody know I was peeing if that was going on.

00:30:53.000 I'm like, hey guys, I'm about to pee.

00:30:55.000 Just to let you know.

00:30:56.000 I don't have to go anywhere.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, it was great.

00:30:59.000 It's tough to sell.

00:31:00.000 Like, hey, that's actually, science has shown that it's actually the best way to pee, because you just pee whenever you want, and holding your pee is actually very bad for you.

00:31:07.000 Really bad for you.

00:31:08.000 So we're just gonna give this, everyone just start walking around with a piss bag slapped.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, they need one for shit, I think.

00:31:13.000 Don't you think?

00:31:15.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:16.000 No.

00:31:16.000 Well, the dumbest thing we do for shit is just smear it with toilet paper.

00:31:21.000 Oof.

00:31:21.000 Like, once I got one of them toilets that squirts water at your butt.

00:31:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:26.000 You never had one?

00:31:27.000 No, I've seen it, but I never had one.

00:31:29.000 Pauly.

00:31:29.000 Really?

00:31:29.000 You gotta get one of those.

00:31:31.000 There's a whole bunch of them.

00:31:32.000 That's a bidet, right?

00:31:34.000 Well, it's not a bidet, because it's like a toilet.

00:31:36.000 It's like a toilet seat bidet.

00:31:38.000 Oh, yeah, you have one in the other room.

00:31:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:40.000 Go try it out.

00:31:40.000 Yeah, your guy showed me around your place.

00:31:42.000 Go try it out.

00:31:43.000 You guys should run your place.

00:31:45.000 So you got the sauna and you got the cold plunge in the back?

00:31:48.000 Uh-huh.

00:31:48.000 Yeah, that's dope.

00:31:49.000 Have you done that?

00:31:50.000 I've done it, yeah.

00:31:51.000 I've been sauning.

00:31:52.000 I mean, every time I see you talk about the cold plunge in the sauna, I'm like, yeah, that's my guy.

00:31:56.000 That's what I do.

00:31:57.000 Cold plunge is the best.

00:31:58.000 Both of them reset your brain so well.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, I usually go to the Russian bathhouse in New York and L.A. and then also the Korean spa.

00:32:06.000 I love it.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, Ari loves that Russian bathhouse in New York.

00:32:09.000 He's always going to those.

00:32:10.000 Yeah, it's the best.

00:32:12.000 It's so good for your body.

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:14.000 It really is.

00:32:15.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:32:17.000 You living in Vegas still?

00:32:20.000 No, I kept a place there, but I moved back to LA. How is it?

00:32:25.000 It's cool.

00:32:26.000 It's alright?

00:32:26.000 Everything's good?

00:32:27.000 Yeah, everything's awesome.

00:32:29.000 I don't want to tell you where my house is.

00:32:31.000 There's people listening.

00:32:33.000 No, I'm very happy there.

00:32:36.000 That's where I was born and raised.

00:32:37.000 Yeah.

00:32:37.000 So it's like, you know, I feel good there.

00:32:39.000 But I like to leave.

00:32:40.000 I like it here, dude.

00:32:41.000 It's fun.

00:32:42.000 I fucking love it here.

00:32:43.000 This is really cool here.

00:32:45.000 It's fun.

00:32:45.000 And what you're doing is, I mean, it's great.

00:32:48.000 Thank you.

00:32:49.000 Yeah.

00:32:49.000 Well, that was the whole, I mean, it worked out better than I thought it could.

00:32:53.000 But that was kind of the idea.

00:32:55.000 And I think it was kind of cool that, I mean, not kind of cool, but I think just obviously everything is up to this guy upstairs, but I think the two-year kind of building up to it got your guys better, got everyone better working at the Vulcan and working around town.

00:33:10.000 For sure.

00:33:11.000 It was this pimple that everyone was developing and developing, and then finally, boom, the mothership came, and then boom, everyone's like, boom, and now it's just, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:33:20.000 And it's this thing, yeah.

00:33:21.000 Well, and also that everybody had kind of shared my sentiments about getting out.

00:33:26.000 Like, Tom Segura was one of the first.

00:33:27.000 Tony Hinchcliffe was one of the first.

00:33:29.000 I think Tony came out first.

00:33:30.000 Ron White was actually already here before the pandemic.

00:33:33.000 And it was also one of the reasons why I loved it.

00:33:35.000 Because he was always telling me, like, it's the best fucking city.

00:33:38.000 You ain't got to deal with all the bullshit you deal with in Hollywood.

00:33:41.000 And, you know, he would always talk so great about this town.

00:33:44.000 Well, I think what you're doing for comedy is great.

00:33:46.000 I mean, you're creating this Emerald City for New York and LA and people to come out here.

00:33:53.000 And you got all these stages, and it's great.

00:33:56.000 And then also, Red Band started a club too.

00:33:58.000 Yeah, right down the street.

00:34:00.000 That's cool.

00:34:00.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 Well, it was a club that already exists, and he bought into it as an investor.

00:34:04.000 And they have a really nice room.

00:34:08.000 I think it's like 500 seats right down the street.

00:34:10.000 Yeah.

00:34:11.000 And I think it's great because I remember coming to Austin in the 90s when I was touring, and everyone remembers Austin 6th Street music.

00:34:21.000 Austin 6th Street music.

00:34:23.000 And now it's slowly starting to be comedy is the first thing, and then music is the second thing.

00:34:27.000 And it's great.

00:34:29.000 With that one little spa, you have the Creek in the Cave that's on 7th, and then you have the Vulcan, which is on 6th, and we're on 6th.

00:34:35.000 And then next to the mothership is the Sunset Strip Club.

00:34:38.000 They're all in the same area.

00:34:40.000 So guys are walking from club to club and doing sets in town.

00:34:45.000 And guys are doing four or five sets a night sometimes, especially when they're doing two shows in certain places.

00:34:52.000 And then there's other rooms outside.

00:34:54.000 It's like people are starting their own rooms, which always happens.

00:34:58.000 You know, like open micers, it's one of the things open micers have always done.

00:35:01.000 Like they'll get a Wednesday at some place and they start, you know, having people come in, they work a deal with the door.

00:35:07.000 Like really sort of, you know, business-minded open micers have done that forever.

00:35:13.000 No, it's great.

00:35:14.000 No, it's great.

00:35:15.000 And you, you know, you're the leader.

00:35:18.000 Well, I just did it because I could.

00:35:20.000 It was one of those things where if someone could, they should.

00:35:24.000 And you can, so why aren't you?

00:35:26.000 Okay, well, you should.

00:35:27.000 I had a talk with myself about it, like, God damn, do you really want to take on this?

00:35:31.000 Because I would always tell people, Be nice to comedy club owners because you don't want to be one.

00:35:37.000 You don't want to be some person hoping that this guy shows up and he wasn't doing coke last night and he isn't on a two-day bender or he didn't miss his flight or he didn't sleep in.

00:35:50.000 There's so many factors dealing with your livelihood if you're a club owner.

00:35:54.000 And then you have...

00:35:56.000 People get too drunk.

00:35:57.000 They're crazy.

00:35:58.000 They do this, they do that.

00:35:59.000 They wreck their hotel room.

00:36:01.000 And, you know, you're constantly, like, putting out fires.

00:36:04.000 I'm like, if you can make a harmonious relationship with a club owner, do it.

00:36:08.000 Try to be as nice to them as possible.

00:36:09.000 You work together.

00:36:11.000 You don't want to be them.

00:36:12.000 You don't want to open a comedy club that's too much work.

00:36:15.000 But now I wound up doing it.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, so what's it like being an owner?

00:36:18.000 You're a 100% owner.

00:36:19.000 Yeah.

00:36:20.000 So what's it like?

00:36:21.000 Well, it's easy because the people that are running it are great.

00:36:24.000 If it wasn't for Curtis and Adam and Eric and Jody and all the people and Carrie, the people that we knew from the store, if it wasn't for them, they wouldn't be able to work like this.

00:36:35.000 They have such a long experience in running clubs.

00:36:38.000 That helps a lot.

00:36:40.000 That's a big, big factor.

00:36:41.000 For comics that are listening that want to get in at your club, what's the process?

00:36:46.000 Yeah, I'm not going to put that out there.

00:36:48.000 They can figure it out.

00:36:49.000 The best way to do it is go to open mic nights.

00:36:52.000 If you're just starting out, or Adam Egott is the talent coordinator.

00:36:56.000 If you're an established comedian, reach out to him.

00:36:58.000 But he's been reaching out to everybody anyway.

00:37:00.000 It's nice.

00:37:01.000 It's been very smooth from the opening jump.

00:37:06.000 And then mostly the small room is the developmental room?

00:37:09.000 Not always.

00:37:10.000 No, Chappelle did that room.

00:37:11.000 He broke it in the first night.

00:37:13.000 It's a fun room to do sets because it's very intimate because it's 120 seats.

00:37:18.000 No, I love that room.

00:37:19.000 That was a great room.

00:37:20.000 Tonight I'm doing your other room, and I did Kill Tony last night, and that was great.

00:37:26.000 So tonight's the first night that I'm gonna do a spot in your bigger room.

00:37:30.000 You'll love it.

00:37:30.000 Yeah, you'll love it.

00:37:31.000 The sound's amazing.

00:37:33.000 We really spent a lot of time making sure that everything was dialed in.

00:37:37.000 And also I brought in Louis C.K., who helped a lot.

00:37:39.000 Louis C.K. had me change a couple things about the small room, had me make the stage smaller, and lower the ceiling even more.

00:37:47.000 The ceiling was already low.

00:37:48.000 It's like, can you lower it more?

00:37:50.000 I was like, I think we can.

00:37:51.000 Can we lower it more?

00:37:51.000 And then there was all these discussions, so it actually delayed the opening by a few weeks from his suggestions, but they were all awesome.

00:37:58.000 They were all perfect suggestions.

00:38:00.000 And then everybody else suggested things too.

00:38:02.000 Tony had some suggestions.

00:38:04.000 David Lucas had some suggestions.

00:38:06.000 Comics have been coming to visit this for the last year and a half.

00:38:09.000 We've been talking.

00:38:10.000 Do you think we should do this?

00:38:12.000 It's like one of those things.

00:38:13.000 So I get everybody together and I'm like, okay, should we have screens where you could watch the comics in the green room?

00:38:19.000 Yeah.

00:38:20.000 Okay, what about if we have a clock over the screen?

00:38:22.000 Everybody has a different idea.

00:38:24.000 Okay, what about if we had stars?

00:38:25.000 I think it might have been Bryan Simpson that had that idea.

00:38:28.000 We have, you know, because the star, like the light in the OR, we have a blue light and a green light.

00:38:35.000 So we have the blue one for the big room and a green one for the little room.

00:38:38.000 And they go off, when it goes off in that room, they go off also inside the green room.

00:38:42.000 So you could be sitting there and go, oh, he's got the light.

00:38:45.000 You see it, and you just walk right on stage.

00:38:47.000 And then when the customer walks in, explain...

00:38:50.000 I know we've seen the video, but they walk in.

00:38:52.000 They go upstairs.

00:38:54.000 The bigger room is on the second floor, and then the smaller room is on the third floor?

00:39:03.000 Is that...

00:39:04.000 Yes.

00:39:05.000 Yeah.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:39:08.000 It's horrible.

00:39:08.000 I don't even think of it as having that many floors, but I guess it does.

00:39:11.000 And then also, I know when I was backstage with you and we were kicking it, you looked at your curtains and you said, oh, we got to change the curtain in the big room so it looks like the smaller curtains.

00:39:20.000 Yeah, the smaller room curtain's a better curtain.

00:39:22.000 Yeah, it's weird to be just thinking about those things.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, so should we tell Curtis to do that?

00:39:27.000 No, it's already done.

00:39:27.000 Oh, you already did it?

00:39:28.000 Yeah, it should be this week.

00:39:29.000 It should be put up.

00:39:30.000 Holy shit.

00:39:31.000 So it's going to match.

00:39:32.000 Yeah, it'll be better.

00:39:33.000 I was going to ask you, I've been doing a, for the last couple years, I've been doing a one-man show about my childhood.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, and it's kind of like my version of Undisputed Truth, which is the Mike Tyson play.

00:39:45.000 Oh, nice.

00:39:46.000 So it's called Stick with the Dancing.

00:39:48.000 So it's called Stick With The Dancing, because that's what my mom said to me after she saw me perform for the first time.

00:39:53.000 That's hilarious.

00:39:54.000 Why don't you come out and do a weekend?

00:39:57.000 That's why I wanted to talk to you.

00:39:58.000 Do you have screens on the bigger room?

00:40:02.000 Yes, in both rooms.

00:40:04.000 So if I perform, there's things...

00:40:05.000 Yeah, yeah, we have a projector in the ceiling, and the sound guy can...

00:40:09.000 Oh, great.

00:40:09.000 Yeah, I want to do that.

00:40:10.000 It'll take a little extra coordination with whoever's doing it, so they know what the files are, and you can go over them with them, but I'm sure we can do it.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, it's set up for that.

00:40:18.000 Yeah, it's a pretty cool show.

00:40:21.000 I can't wait to see it.

00:40:22.000 Yeah, it's fun.

00:40:23.000 Dude, you got babysitted by Sam Kinison.

00:40:25.000 It's one of the funniest fucking stories of all time.

00:40:28.000 What a crazy thing your mom did.

00:40:30.000 She left you as a little child as one of the most maniacal comedians that's ever existed.

00:40:35.000 Well, it wasn't exactly like that.

00:40:39.000 It was more like Sam.

00:40:41.000 I was 14 years old.

00:40:42.000 I was a short order cook at the Comedy Store in Westwood.

00:40:45.000 My mom would put Sam on last because all he would do was scream.

00:40:49.000 And then he would literally, you know, there'd be six people left in the room in Westwood and he'd throw the stools.

00:40:54.000 He'd throw his stool at the audience members.

00:40:57.000 They'd scamper off.

00:40:58.000 He'd smoke weed in the parking lot.

00:41:00.000 And then he would, you know, I'd feed him hamburgers.

00:41:04.000 So I kind of just, I was always taking care of comedians.

00:41:07.000 What year was this?

00:41:08.000 This was probably 84, 85. I was in high school, yeah.

00:41:14.000 So he really hit in 86. Yes.

00:41:16.000 That's when he really hit.

00:41:16.000 Yeah.

00:41:17.000 Yeah.

00:41:18.000 Did I ever tell you my story of how I found out about him?

00:41:21.000 It's probably Boston with Parento or something.

00:41:24.000 No, a girl that I worked with at the Boston Athletic Club.

00:41:28.000 Still to this day, I can't remember her fucking name.

00:41:30.000 She was really cool, though.

00:41:31.000 She was this big volleyball player girl.

00:41:33.000 Like, big athletic girl.

00:41:35.000 And she goes to me, she goes, have you seen Sam Kennison?

00:41:39.000 Sam Kennison, whatever his name is.

00:41:41.000 Name was?

00:41:42.000 I go, no, I haven't.

00:41:43.000 And so she acts out in the parking lot the whole bit about him.

00:41:48.000 The Ethiopia or something.

00:41:49.000 No, no, no.

00:41:49.000 The homosexual necrophiliac.

00:41:52.000 Oh, God.

00:41:53.000 Yeah.

00:41:54.000 She acted it out in the parking lot.

00:41:56.000 She's like, oh, oh!

00:41:57.000 Life keeps fucking in the ass even after you're dead!

00:42:00.000 It never ends!

00:42:00.000 Me laughing at her acting it out in the parking lot made me go get the VHS tape.

00:42:06.000 So I got a VHS tape of his HBO special, and I was like, holy shit.

00:42:12.000 So I found out about it from a girl acting out the bit.

00:42:16.000 She was on her stomach in the parking lot going, oh, oh!

00:42:20.000 Feels like something's in my ass!

00:42:22.000 You can't believe it that angle was genius.

00:42:25.000 It's such a fucking genius genius point of view that that night was that was 1987 and that was at the Roxy on Sunset and my mom had an after party for him at the house Wow at the Doheny house so that night afterwards Sam came to the house with everyone and and And I was so excited because I wanted to show him my saltwater fish tank.

00:42:48.000 Because as a kid, I had a saltwater fish tank.

00:42:50.000 And I brought him up to my room and I said, Sam, look at my tank.

00:42:54.000 And he wasn't impressed at all.

00:42:56.000 He's like, but he told me to take the top off the saltwater fish tank.

00:42:59.000 It was a big black top.

00:43:00.000 And I took it down.

00:43:01.000 He dumped all this Coke on it.

00:43:05.000 And he started chopping up lines and he says, have fun.

00:43:08.000 And me and my friend Dave, we snorted Sam's Coke that night.

00:43:11.000 And I felt like so cool.

00:43:14.000 I felt like, no, for real.

00:43:16.000 I was like, fuck this guy.

00:43:17.000 And then I just followed him around.

00:43:19.000 So as far as him babysitting me, it was...

00:43:23.000 So that was just the way it would describe it?

00:43:25.000 Yeah, I mean, Lois Bromfield babysitting me, Jackson Perdue babysat me, Mike Binder, Argus Hamilton, all those guys.

00:43:32.000 So you were essentially just like his young protege?

00:43:35.000 Yeah, it was like the Michael Jordan commercial.

00:43:37.000 The kid wanted to be like Mike, I wanted to be like Sam.

00:43:41.000 Right.

00:43:42.000 Look at you!

00:43:44.000 What year is that?

00:43:46.000 I was probably 11. Wow.

00:43:48.000 I was probably 11. What a fucking crazy place to grow up.

00:43:52.000 Yeah, back then.

00:43:53.000 Oh my god.

00:43:54.000 Back then.

00:43:55.000 I mean, back then.

00:43:56.000 I mean, there's so many stories, dude.

00:43:58.000 I mean, I'm there now, and it's great, obviously.

00:44:00.000 It's the store.

00:44:02.000 But when Mom was there, it was just like, you never know what the fuck was going to happen.

00:44:05.000 You never knew who was going to pull in the fucking lot.

00:44:08.000 You never knew who was going to come up.

00:44:09.000 It was like someone shooting guns.

00:44:13.000 Not literally, but just as far as the energy.

00:44:16.000 Boom, boom, boom!

00:44:17.000 I mean, Eddie Murphy used to show up with like six Rolls Royces.

00:44:21.000 Like, for real, dude.

00:44:23.000 And then Richard would show up, and all these guys would just roll.

00:44:27.000 And this is around when you got there.

00:44:29.000 It was kind of towards, right?

00:44:31.000 You got there in 94. That was probably before when I got there.

00:44:35.000 Yeah, I saw the calendar you had for my mom where she put your name.

00:44:39.000 I thought that was really cool.

00:44:41.000 Yeah, it's very cool.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, so that was that time.

00:44:46.000 You know what I'm really proud of is Argus.

00:44:47.000 Look at this right here.

00:44:49.000 What year is that?

00:44:52.000 That was last year.

00:44:53.000 Pauly Shore bringing up Eddie Murphy.

00:44:56.000 When did Eddie retire?

00:44:58.000 So he retired in what year?

00:44:59.000 He stopped doing stand-up when?

00:45:01.000 I don't know.

00:45:02.000 I was at his house probably five years ago, and I was just like, dude, what are you doing?

00:45:08.000 You're the best, dude.

00:45:09.000 Let's go.

00:45:10.000 He's literally the best.

00:45:12.000 I think he should come out here and do it.

00:45:13.000 He'd be great, because you put the phones in the pouches.

00:45:16.000 Well, he could do that anywhere if he wanted to.

00:45:18.000 I think the hard part would be doing it, just getting going.

00:45:21.000 I think if he did it once, then he'd want to do it all the time.

00:45:25.000 You know, but it's like you get locked up in that movie world.

00:45:28.000 But he's also encased in his house.

00:45:30.000 That's the same thing with Dr. Dre.

00:45:32.000 Dr. Dre, he would be great on this show.

00:45:34.000 I'd love to have him on.

00:45:35.000 Okay, Dre, what's up?

00:45:36.000 I'm going to put you on the show.

00:45:38.000 So we could text him right now.

00:45:40.000 So I've known Dre.

00:45:41.000 When my mom died, he was one of like the two or three people that really reached out to me.

00:45:47.000 Because he knew how close I was with my mom.

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:49.000 He sent me flowers.

00:45:50.000 It was really beautiful.

00:45:51.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:45:51.000 Yeah, it was great.

00:45:53.000 That's very cool.

00:45:54.000 But I went to his house.

00:45:56.000 These guys are so big and so wealthy, they enclose themselves.

00:46:02.000 So I reconnected with him at Dave Chappelle's show at the Hollywood Bowl.

00:46:09.000 And he's like, yo, hit me up, da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:46:12.000 I hit him up, I go to his house, and it's like fucking El Chapo, bro.

00:46:16.000 It's like, you know what I mean?

00:46:18.000 I don't want to reveal all the shit, but it's pretty heavy.

00:46:23.000 But I go in there, he's the same fucking guy that he was 20, 30 years ago.

00:46:26.000 Of course.

00:46:27.000 Most people are.

00:46:28.000 They do deteriorate psychologically, though, in isolation.

00:46:32.000 Yeah, he says, yo, man, you want to see me?

00:46:34.000 You come here.

00:46:35.000 So it was pretty cool.

00:46:36.000 That's also a nice thing about having this club, that I'm hanging around with comics all the time.

00:46:42.000 You're not isolated.

00:46:46.000 As a comic, one of the things that does happen when you tour, we're talking about, you bring an opening act.

00:46:51.000 You maybe hang out with them.

00:46:53.000 And that's it.

00:46:54.000 That's the whole weekend.

00:46:56.000 It's kind of isolating.

00:46:57.000 And if you're not with that person, then you go and you use local opening acts.

00:47:02.000 I mean, maybe it's great and you meet a great friend.

00:47:04.000 That's how I met Segura.

00:47:05.000 Or maybe it's terrible and you have a shitty weekend with people you don't like.

00:47:09.000 So what do you think of these guys?

00:47:11.000 I mean, I'm a fan of you, of Tom, of Bert and all these guys.

00:47:16.000 Do you ever pinch yourself and see what you've really...

00:47:20.000 I'm not saying you're the holier-than-thou person that did this.

00:47:23.000 Their talent speaks for themselves.

00:47:26.000 But you have a lot to do with these guys' careers.

00:47:28.000 Well, they have a lot to do with mine, too, though.

00:47:31.000 That's part of the appeal of this show.

00:47:33.000 Part of the appeal of this show is having those guys on is great for me, too.

00:47:37.000 It's great for everybody.

00:47:38.000 But I'm just saying, because, again, I've seen it.

00:47:41.000 I've seen the slow build.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, but they're huge because they're great.

00:47:46.000 That's what it is.

00:47:46.000 Like, you have to do the work and put it in.

00:47:49.000 It's like everybody should have a chance to do it.

00:47:51.000 Like, giving someone a chance to excel, you shouldn't get any credit for that.

00:47:56.000 Like, the people that excel, they get the credit.

00:47:58.000 Like, what they're doing is what's exceptional.

00:48:01.000 And they put in the work.

00:48:02.000 Guys like Bert put in the work.

00:48:04.000 Like, he's selling out fucking arenas now.

00:48:05.000 I know.

00:48:06.000 It's fucking...

00:48:06.000 It's insane.

00:48:07.000 I know.

00:48:07.000 It's insane, but he puts the work in.

00:48:09.000 No one can deny that, man.

00:48:10.000 He's the machine.

00:48:11.000 He's the fucking machine, bro.

00:48:13.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a selfless promoter.

00:48:15.000 He's always making these great videos.

00:48:17.000 He's always, like, fucking full-on rah-rah-bert with his big gut hanging out.

00:48:21.000 He's a wild man.

00:48:22.000 He's killing it.

00:48:22.000 And his new movie's hilarious.

00:48:24.000 This machine movie's gonna crush it.

00:48:26.000 It's gonna crush it.

00:48:27.000 I watched one of the previews that he showed us.

00:48:30.000 Did he show us other things other than the previews?

00:48:33.000 No, right?

00:48:34.000 Have you seen my movie Guesthouse?

00:48:36.000 I have not.

00:48:36.000 It's on Netflix.

00:48:38.000 Eric Griffin's in it, Bobby Lee's in it, Steve-O's in it.

00:48:41.000 When was this?

00:48:41.000 Like a couple years ago.

00:48:42.000 Oh, no shit.

00:48:43.000 During the pandemic you guys made a movie?

00:48:44.000 No, right before, but it came out in the pandemic.

00:48:47.000 Oh, that's good.

00:48:47.000 It's on Netflix.

00:48:48.000 It's great.

00:48:49.000 Okay, that's great.

00:48:49.000 To have something come out when everybody's definitely watching TV. Yeah, it did well.

00:48:53.000 It's called Guest House.

00:48:54.000 I play a guy that lives in the guest house that won't leave.

00:48:57.000 So it's R-rated.

00:48:59.000 It's the first R-rated comedy I've ever done.

00:49:01.000 Oh, wow.

00:49:01.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 Oh, that's nice.

00:49:02.000 Yeah, it was cool.

00:49:03.000 It was pretty raunchy.

00:49:04.000 I'll check it out.

00:49:05.000 Yeah, it's cool.

00:49:05.000 I think you'll like it.

00:49:06.000 It's amazing, the shows that popped off.

00:49:09.000 Do you think Tiger King would have become as big?

00:49:12.000 Absolutely not.

00:49:13.000 Right?

00:49:13.000 No way.

00:49:14.000 It was like a timing of the universe.

00:49:16.000 It was like a perfect door opened.

00:49:17.000 Yeah.

00:49:18.000 Where everybody's at home, and then everybody's like kind of freaking out.

00:49:21.000 What better way to stop freaking out than look at some people that are way more fucked up than you?

00:49:25.000 At least you're not that guy.

00:49:28.000 You know, with this fucking outside brace on, carrying a pistol everywhere, and fucking all these straight guys.

00:49:33.000 This is wild!

00:49:34.000 And this guy, he owns tigers?

00:49:37.000 And how about the one person that got...

00:49:38.000 I don't know if this person decided they were a boy or a girl.

00:49:41.000 Did they change genders?

00:49:43.000 When a person got their fucking arm bitten off by a tiger.

00:49:47.000 Yes.

00:49:47.000 Instead of going through a bunch of operations, they said, no, just cut it off.

00:49:51.000 That was his boy, yeah.

00:49:52.000 I don't want to go through five operations.

00:49:54.000 Just take this fucking arm off.

00:49:56.000 Yeah.

00:49:57.000 Bro.

00:49:57.000 Yeah, I know.

00:49:59.000 What the fuck, man?

00:50:02.000 I mean, and then goes right back to working with tigers.

00:50:05.000 Look, tiger in he, she, they, them's lap.

00:50:11.000 What do you think about the whole...

00:50:13.000 I don't want to say the word...

00:50:15.000 By the way, Free Joe Exotic.

00:50:17.000 Free Joe Exotic.

00:50:18.000 Free Joe Exotic.

00:50:19.000 Free Joe Exotic.

00:50:20.000 Let's go do your mobile podcast from Joe.

00:50:23.000 I wish.

00:50:23.000 I wish you'd give him a day off.

00:50:27.000 So what do you think about the whole, I don't want to use the word, trajectory, because that's not a real word.

00:50:32.000 Trajectory?

00:50:33.000 Trajectory, thank you.

00:50:34.000 Of what?

00:50:35.000 Of just from the last 30 years of the entertainment business, you know, how it started off with, you know, movies, TV, and then, like, real world came, and then, you know, and then, what was it, Amazing Race, and all these things, and then all of a sudden the internet came,

00:50:51.000 and now everyone's got their own show.

00:50:53.000 Yeah.

00:50:53.000 And then when you watch a movie with great actors like Pacino or whoever you think is great, you're staring at your phone, you're looking at your leg.

00:51:00.000 What do you think about that?

00:51:02.000 Because growing up, I never thought that this would ever happen.

00:51:06.000 I thought everything was always going to be like the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s.

00:51:11.000 I mean, you talk about when I was your age, this is really a big shift.

00:51:16.000 Yeah, it's a huge shift.

00:51:17.000 Everyone's famous now.

00:51:18.000 What do you think about it?

00:51:19.000 Well, it's a big shift, but they're still making movies.

00:51:22.000 They're still making television shows.

00:51:25.000 Matt Damon made a video where he was explaining why people aren't making movies anymore.

00:51:31.000 Why they're not making good movies and how hard it is to make a movie now.

00:51:35.000 And he explained it as a person who's on the inside.

00:51:39.000 And it's much more daunting than I thought.

00:51:42.000 And then there's the television show thing.

00:51:44.000 There's a lot of television shows now, right?

00:51:47.000 There's television shows that are on Netflix and television shows that are on regular networks, but Reality shows are very cheap, very easy, and very compelling.

00:51:55.000 And they found that out through Fear Factor and through Survivor and through all those other shows.

00:52:01.000 That kind of shifted the landscape away from the sitcom.

00:52:04.000 And the sitcom was our holy grail, right?

00:52:07.000 When we first came to Hollywood, not when you did, but when my generation came to Hollywood in like 94, when we came out here, everybody wanted a sitcom.

00:52:16.000 I remember when you had your sitcom on Fox.

00:52:19.000 I remember I came out to the premiere.

00:52:21.000 Oh, wow.

00:52:22.000 It was like, holy shit, you got a show.

00:52:25.000 That was it.

00:52:26.000 That's what everybody wanted.

00:52:27.000 Everybody wanted the golden...

00:52:28.000 That was her rhythm.

00:52:30.000 That was her rhythm, yeah.

00:52:32.000 Well, that was the times.

00:52:33.000 That's what it was back then.

00:52:35.000 Nowadays, if you're trying to get a sitcom, other than Miss Pat, who's pulled it off, Miss Pat's show is fucking hilarious.

00:52:42.000 It's really good, dude.

00:52:44.000 But it's on BET+. It's not on a network so she can swear, she can say whatever the fuck she wants.

00:52:50.000 That show's really good.

00:52:51.000 But other than that, how many comics do you know that have a sitcom, a multi-cam sitcom, You know, Whitney had one for a while.

00:53:00.000 A lot of people had them.

00:53:01.000 Tom Rhodes had a show back when I was on news radio.

00:53:03.000 He had a show.

00:53:04.000 There was a lot of fucking people at shows.

00:53:08.000 But now, now, Greg Giraldo had a show.

00:53:13.000 He was right next to us when we were filming Fear Factors or filming news radio as well.

00:53:18.000 It's the same thing with the talk show format as well.

00:53:21.000 Everyone's got a talk show.

00:53:23.000 I mean, not everyone's got a talk show, but there's the three talk shows.

00:53:25.000 But then there's guys like you that trump the talk show.

00:53:29.000 Well, they're just playing with an outdated system.

00:53:33.000 So they're involved in a system that has to stop every few minutes.

00:53:39.000 For commercials, it only airs at a specific time, meaning you have to be there to watch, or you have to set your DVR to watch it later.

00:53:46.000 It takes a lot of additional steps.

00:53:48.000 There's a lot going on that makes those things unappealing.

00:53:51.000 The other thing is, a person goes on, they only talk for five minutes.

00:53:55.000 If you're a person that wants to explain something very complicated, like the Younger Dryas impact theory, or like, you know, if Bob Lazar wants to go on a show and talk about how he was hired by the government to back engineer flying saucers.

00:54:10.000 That's not a five clip on Jimmy Kimmel, right?

00:54:13.000 You're not going to be able to do it.

00:54:14.000 Literally, they're completely handicapped by the system that they operate in.

00:54:20.000 You can't do it.

00:54:21.000 When I saw Tom Green's show, he had this show that he did in his house that he set up like a talk show set in his house.

00:54:29.000 And he had all these cables that ran from the talk show set up to a server room.

00:54:34.000 Like he had like his house had been converted into a television studio.

00:54:37.000 So this is amazing.

00:54:39.000 It was in 2007. And that was when I was like, okay, that's probably the way to do it.

00:54:45.000 This talk show way, they're never gonna give me one of those things.

00:54:48.000 If they do, I'll fuck it up.

00:54:50.000 I'll say something stupid.

00:54:51.000 So when you saw Tom Green's show, that's when you and Red Band sat on the couch.

00:54:56.000 Well, we did it a couple of years later.

00:54:57.000 We started doing things like we would do videos that we would do after shows or during...

00:55:03.000 Hook a brother up, please.

00:55:04.000 You want some coffee, sir?

00:55:05.000 Hook a brother up.

00:55:06.000 Dude, we're just hanging out.

00:55:07.000 We're having coffee.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, we're chilling, brother.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:09.000 Cheers.

00:55:10.000 Cheers, bud.

00:55:12.000 So we started doing that in like 2007 or 2008. We started doing green room shows with a webcam.

00:55:19.000 Yeah.

00:55:19.000 Just fucking around.

00:55:20.000 Yeah.

00:55:22.000 And then in 2009 we started doing the podcast again, just fucking around.

00:55:26.000 Yeah, because when you and I talked and we talked about me coming on your show here, I was so excited.

00:55:32.000 It was the same enthusiasm I got when I used to get Letterman.

00:55:36.000 Because I was on Letterman a lot.

00:55:38.000 And his show, I felt like...

00:55:41.000 It was a big deal.

00:55:41.000 It was cool.

00:55:42.000 So you're a big deal now with this.

00:55:45.000 I mean, it's pretty fucking cool.

00:55:46.000 So, because your show is, it trumps Colbert, it trumps Jimmy Fallon, and it trumps Jimmy Kimmel's show.

00:55:55.000 Meaning it's a bigger deal for a guest to book.

00:55:58.000 Oh, I'm on fucking Joe Rogan.

00:55:59.000 Why are you laughing?

00:56:00.000 What the fuck, dude?

00:56:01.000 Come on.

00:56:03.000 No, it's a big deal.

00:56:05.000 So I got super excited when I was going to be on this like I did back in the day when I got on Letterman.

00:56:11.000 Because I was so excited to get on Letterman.

00:56:12.000 I was excited to come see you.

00:56:14.000 Well, I'm excited to have you here.

00:56:16.000 You're a good dude, Paulie.

00:56:18.000 You really are.

00:56:18.000 You're a very nice guy.

00:56:19.000 Remember when we did that show at the MGM and afterwards we hung out and talked.

00:56:23.000 It's like, you're a good dude, man.

00:56:24.000 You know?

00:56:25.000 I've known you a long time.

00:56:26.000 It's nice to see.

00:56:27.000 It's nice to see you happy and it was really, like I said, it was really nice to see you killing on stage.

00:56:31.000 Because you were having fun.

00:56:33.000 You were so loose.

00:56:34.000 We were all howling.

00:56:35.000 There was a bunch of comics in the back laughing.

00:56:37.000 And that reminded me of the old days.

00:56:39.000 It reminded me of the OR. Like when Joey Diaz would go on stage, we'd all sit in the back.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, Mooney.

00:56:44.000 Yes, when Mooney would go on, we would all sit down.

00:56:47.000 Oh my god, everyone would sit down.

00:56:49.000 Well, I threw everyone under the bus that show.

00:56:51.000 You threw everyone under the bus?

00:56:52.000 Well, yeah, you know, Nick, and I was having fun with some of your local people here.

00:56:57.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:56:57.000 I was just fucking around with people.

00:56:59.000 Oh yeah, no, that was funny.

00:57:00.000 Nick from the Vulcan.

00:57:01.000 Yes, Nick from the Vulcan.

00:57:02.000 Yeah, he's a sweetheart.

00:57:03.000 He's a sweetheart.

00:57:04.000 Yeah.

00:57:05.000 Yeah, that environment of the back booth, you know, of sitting in the backseat of the company, you would walk in, you always look, you say, oh, Eric Griffin, what's up?

00:57:14.000 It was always like people sitting there.

00:57:15.000 That's how Holtzman is now when I see him.

00:57:17.000 Yeah.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, I saw him a couple weeks ago.

00:57:19.000 He was really fucking nuts.

00:57:21.000 Oh, he's out of his mind.

00:57:22.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 He's so funny, though.

00:57:23.000 He's always got the absolute wrong take on whatever the fuck has happened in the news.

00:57:27.000 Yeah.

00:57:29.000 In the most brutal way possible.

00:57:30.000 Everyone goes left, he goes right.

00:57:32.000 He goes hard.

00:57:33.000 Yeah.

00:57:33.000 He goes hard.

00:57:34.000 Remember when Susan Smith drowned her kids?

00:57:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:38.000 He was on stage like a day later.

00:57:40.000 I heard those were bad kids.

00:57:42.000 I heard they sat that close to the TV. They never put away their blocks.

00:57:45.000 They always spilt their milk.

00:57:47.000 Those kids will not be missed!

00:57:49.000 It was just so crazy watching them do that.

00:57:52.000 We were howling.

00:57:54.000 Holtzman's a funny motherfucker.

00:57:56.000 He's a funny motherfucker.

00:57:58.000 I was wearing my Brody shirt today.

00:58:01.000 Oh, wow.

00:58:02.000 I got a Brody positive push shirt.

00:58:05.000 He was a funny motherfucker, man.

00:58:07.000 He was a fun guy to watch at the end of the night.

00:58:09.000 There's a special moment that I only experience at the store.

00:58:15.000 And that moment is when the show is old and someone kills.

00:58:19.000 The store gives you this thing where you get a chance to see when the show is old and someone goes up and kills.

00:58:27.000 When it's just like maybe there's 25 people left and it's late at night and someone just goes up and is coming in hot and they're killing for 25, 30 people.

00:58:38.000 Rick Ingram has done really well, too.

00:58:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:41.000 Yeah, I'm really proud of him.

00:58:42.000 Yeah, he's opening up for Chris Rock.

00:58:44.000 Yep.

00:58:44.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:58:45.000 That's how Chris found him.

00:58:47.000 At the store?

00:58:47.000 Yeah, he just saw him.

00:58:48.000 He's like, fuck, let's roll.

00:58:49.000 That's great.

00:58:50.000 And he went out there, and then he took pictures with Paul McCartney.

00:58:53.000 Wow.

00:58:53.000 That's pretty cool, Rick.

00:58:54.000 That's pretty cool.

00:58:54.000 Yeah.

00:58:55.000 So, yeah.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, if you think about all the comics that have come from that place that your mother built, what an amazing thing.

00:59:06.000 So many comics over so long.

00:59:08.000 So long.

00:59:11.000 You know, it's like so many years.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, Don Barris is doing great over there, too.

00:59:16.000 He does his Ding Dong show.

00:59:17.000 Nice.

00:59:18.000 Yeah, he's cool.

00:59:20.000 The thing about places like the store, too, is that it used to be C-Rose.

00:59:24.000 It used to be another nightclub.

00:59:26.000 It used to have, like, Jerry Martin or D. Martin and Jerry Lewis perform there and, you know, all these celebrities.

00:59:32.000 Like, there's experiences baked into the walls of that place.

00:59:36.000 Do you know how the whole story started, right?

00:59:40.000 Yeah.

00:59:40.000 You know, with my father and stuff?

00:59:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:59:42.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 I mean, do you know a lot about my father?

00:59:45.000 Not too much.

00:59:46.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 My father was- I was never around when I was around.

00:59:48.000 Yeah, but I'm talking about he wasn't- I mean, no one was around when he was around.

00:59:53.000 I mean, he was never around when I was there.

00:59:55.000 Yeah, no, meaning he started it with his partner, Rudy DeLuca, and they got the room and they developed it, and my mom got the store.

01:00:09.000 But my dad, a lot of people don't know who he is and what he's about.

01:00:13.000 If it wasn't for my father...

01:00:15.000 No disrespect to my mother, but there wouldn't have been a comedy story.

01:00:19.000 She might have found her way somewhere else, but he's the reason why they moved out to California.

01:00:26.000 So he's the reason because of his career.

01:00:29.000 My dad was guest starring on Sanford and Son.

01:00:35.000 Sanford and his son, he played brother Sam.

01:00:37.000 He did a movie.

01:00:39.000 How many episodes did he do of that?

01:00:40.000 A couple.

01:00:40.000 I mean, if you go on there, you could see Sammy Shores.

01:00:43.000 That's awesome.

01:00:43.000 Red Fox.

01:00:44.000 I love that show.

01:00:45.000 I used to watch that show with my grandfather.

01:00:47.000 Oh, it was the best show.

01:00:47.000 It was the best show.

01:00:48.000 Red Fox.

01:00:49.000 Oh my God.

01:00:50.000 Yeah, there he is.

01:00:50.000 That's my father.

01:00:53.000 That's amazing.

01:00:54.000 So I call my dad.

01:00:56.000 I call my father.

01:00:57.000 He took one for the team.

01:01:00.000 Meaning, him and my mom never wanted to be together.

01:01:04.000 So my mom got pregnant and had Scott, my oldest brother.

01:01:09.000 And this was an accident and they got married and she didn't want to be with him and he didn't want to be with her, but he just sucked it up.

01:01:15.000 And he was in this relationship with this woman, my mother, that he never really wanted to be in.

01:01:21.000 So he started acting and doing all that and then he was opening for Elvis, he was opening for Sammy Davis, he was opening for...

01:01:33.000 All these great comedians, or all these great entertainers, and he started it.

01:01:39.000 He started the beginning of it.

01:01:42.000 Wow.

01:01:43.000 And it was in the original room?

01:01:44.000 Just the original room, yeah.

01:01:46.000 It only seated less people back then, though, right?

01:01:49.000 Yeah.

01:01:50.000 It was like 94 people, I think.

01:01:51.000 I think it was like that, and they moved the wall.

01:01:53.000 But yeah, my dad, you know, he took one for the team, you know, for us.

01:01:59.000 Isn't it amazing if he didn't do that?

01:02:02.000 If he didn't do that and didn't give the reins to your mother.

01:02:05.000 Correct.

01:02:06.000 Who knows what the comedy world would look like?

01:02:08.000 I mean, who knows if a guy like Kenison ever gets off the ground?

01:02:11.000 Correct.

01:02:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:12.000 Correct.

01:02:12.000 You need a place like that where it's a real artist workshop.

01:02:17.000 I mean, that's a highfalutin term, but that's really what it is.

01:02:20.000 Well, that's what my mom was.

01:02:22.000 That's why my mom had this natural instinct to develop comedians, because it was in her veins.

01:02:28.000 So what would happen was, is my dad would...

01:02:32.000 That's where my mom met my dad is when he was performing in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.

01:02:36.000 So my dad was the comedian for a month in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.

01:02:40.000 He was a touring comic.

01:02:41.000 And...

01:02:43.000 My mom started dating my father, and she got pregnant.

01:02:47.000 And then he took off.

01:02:48.000 And that's when the whole thing where they're going to have the kid.

01:02:52.000 And what happened is my mom would type up my dad's jokes in the back.

01:02:57.000 Would type up the jokes.

01:02:58.000 This is funny.

01:02:59.000 That's not funny.

01:03:00.000 Try this.

01:03:00.000 That's not good.

01:03:01.000 And then give him pointers.

01:03:03.000 So my dad was always really nervous performing in front of my mom.

01:03:08.000 So for instance, my dad got a shot on Ed Sullivan's show.

01:03:12.000 That was a big deal for him after Barbra Streisand.

01:03:15.000 So it was this big shot and my mom was like, he fucking blew it!

01:03:19.000 You know, he's nervous, he fucked it up!

01:03:21.000 And it just made him more, you know, this was part of the reason why I became an alcoholic.

01:03:26.000 Wow.

01:03:26.000 Was, you know, being nervous trying to make it.

01:03:29.000 He had always kind of like, in her eyes, you know, and if you Google my father, Ed Sullivan's show, Sammy Shore, you could see photos of him, but that was a big shot for him.

01:03:39.000 And my mom says that he blew it!

01:03:42.000 It's not happening!

01:03:44.000 Have you ever watched it?

01:03:45.000 Yeah, I have.

01:03:46.000 I don't think he blew it.

01:03:48.000 I think he did alright.

01:03:50.000 Look at this.

01:03:51.000 Ed Sullivan.

01:03:52.000 Yeah, he was on there with the stones.

01:03:54.000 Look at Mick Jagger.

01:03:57.000 Look how amazing that looks.

01:03:58.000 Give me some volume on that.

01:04:02.000 I mean, Jesus.

01:04:03.000 This is the 60s, dude.

01:04:05.000 This was a big deal, dude.

01:04:06.000 Look at their faces.

01:04:09.000 Listen to the girls screaming.

01:04:11.000 Does anybody get that kind of reaction today?

01:04:16.000 They're just shrieking constantly.

01:04:24.000 So my dad, my dad was very much like me.

01:04:28.000 He just wanted to be a free spirit, just wanted to be on the road, but he got her preggers and he got her pregnant and he, you know, you can't really, I guess you can, I guess you can perform and be dishonest in a relationship because he was.

01:04:46.000 He wasn't faithful to my mom.

01:04:49.000 You know, he had a crooked dick!

01:04:51.000 You know, shit like that.

01:04:53.000 And she would, you know, and it was tough for me growing up because, you know, I love my father.

01:04:57.000 And he was a great dad, but my mom would always kind of like rip into him.

01:05:02.000 That ripping into him, though, like that characteristic that she had made everyone better.

01:05:08.000 She was so good at pointing out what was wrong with your act.

01:05:13.000 Natural.

01:05:13.000 She was so good at it.

01:05:15.000 Natural.

01:05:16.000 It was hard for me, dude.

01:05:19.000 When I first started doing stand-up, it wasn't easy.

01:05:22.000 I'm sure.

01:05:23.000 It was fucking like...

01:05:24.000 I'm sure.

01:05:24.000 I mean, I had to make it quick.

01:05:27.000 Right, right, right.

01:05:27.000 Yeah, I had to make it quick.

01:05:28.000 Right.

01:05:29.000 Because I started when I was 17, 18, or 17. And what year was Totally Polly?

01:05:36.000 How old were you then?

01:05:39.000 That was early 20s.

01:05:42.000 But that time between high school, between MTV, was like this.

01:05:46.000 It was quick.

01:05:48.000 I mean, she kicked me out of the house.

01:05:51.000 I moved down the street.

01:05:53.000 I was like, fuck you.

01:05:54.000 It was that type of shit.

01:05:55.000 I mean, it got really bad.

01:05:56.000 Of course.

01:05:57.000 Yeah, it got really bad.

01:05:59.000 Get out of here.

01:06:00.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:00.000 It was when I was hanging out with Sam.

01:06:02.000 I don't want you to hang out with Sam anymore.

01:06:04.000 He's an alcoholic.

01:06:05.000 He's a cokehead.

01:06:06.000 And I was like, Mom, I'm not hanging out with Sam because he's that.

01:06:09.000 I'm hanging out because he's a great comic.

01:06:11.000 She goes, you don't understand.

01:06:12.000 And she said, get out of my house.

01:06:13.000 And she threw her keys at me and it turned into this whole thing.

01:06:16.000 What was it like in Westwood in the early days?

01:06:20.000 You were there in 84. What was that club like?

01:06:24.000 What was the scene like there?

01:06:27.000 So the Westwood Comedy Store...

01:06:29.000 Because that's where they developed, right?

01:06:31.000 Yes.

01:06:31.000 Yeah, it was kind of like the...

01:06:33.000 Let's call it the Red Band Room.

01:06:35.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:06:36.000 No, it was...

01:06:37.000 Westwood Boulevard is here, and then you got Wilshire, and then you got Olympic.

01:06:45.000 So the Westwood Comedy Store was in between...

01:06:47.000 It wasn't in Westwood Village.

01:06:49.000 It was in between...

01:06:52.000 Wilshire and Olympic.

01:06:53.000 And right next door was an arcade.

01:06:55.000 So there's this big arcade, and then there was the Westwood Club.

01:06:58.000 So on the stage you had Dave Tyree, you had Andrew Dice Clay, Roseanne, you had Arsenio, Sam, Carl LeBeau, and Dave Tyree.

01:07:09.000 Dave Tyree.

01:07:10.000 Remember Dave Tyree?

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 He was funny, dude.

01:07:12.000 Yeah, he was.

01:07:13.000 Dave Tyree was really funny.

01:07:15.000 I remember one time he went on that stage.

01:07:17.000 He was all coked out and drunk.

01:07:18.000 And he goes, I don't know what you people are looking at me for.

01:07:21.000 And he just fucking ate shit off the stage.

01:07:24.000 But that's how it was back then.

01:07:26.000 Oh, my God.

01:07:26.000 I want to see people fall at the mothership.

01:07:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:30.000 They probably will.

01:07:31.000 Yeah.

01:07:33.000 Back then, it was like the whole culture was just hard partying, right?

01:07:36.000 Yeah, but she developed, she had a whole system.

01:07:39.000 I mean, her whole system was, you know, it was, if she liked you, you know, it'd work the door, and then she would go work Westwood, and Alan Stevens used to...

01:07:48.000 He used to, remember Alan Stevens?

01:07:50.000 Yeah, he used to take me from, the West would call me sort of Sunset, and he was always coked out.

01:07:56.000 So he would do lines of coke and then take his renegade black jeep down Sunset, and then he would drop me off, and I'd be there, and my mom would come out of the store into her black jag, and Argus would be chasing her.

01:08:07.000 Wow.

01:08:08.000 Yeah.

01:08:08.000 And she would, get off of me, Argus.

01:08:11.000 Leave me alone.

01:08:11.000 I want to go home by myself.

01:08:13.000 Leave me alone.

01:08:13.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:14.000 Like that type of shit.

01:08:15.000 And then I got in the car and then me and my mom would drive her car.

01:08:18.000 And this was like two in the morning down sunset.

01:08:20.000 And we'd drive by the whiskey and Black Flag was playing there.

01:08:24.000 And then all the punkers would spit on my mom's car because we were rich or whatever.

01:08:29.000 They'd be like, get out of here.

01:08:31.000 And then we'd drive by the Rainbow and all the heavy metal guys would be in the street.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 And then we'd go up and then Argus would be pounding on the door.

01:08:38.000 Mitzi, I'm here!

01:08:39.000 I had to call the cops.

01:08:41.000 I had to call the cops on Argus.

01:08:42.000 Is that when Argus was in his drug days?

01:08:45.000 Yeah, of course.

01:08:46.000 Yeah.

01:08:47.000 He's a wild man.

01:08:47.000 Yeah, I had to call the cops on him.

01:08:49.000 That's hilarious.

01:08:50.000 That Rainbow Bar and Grill is such a strange place.

01:08:53.000 I've only been there a couple of times, but it's like, jeez, there's a guy from this band, there's a guy from that band, there's...

01:08:58.000 this guy's from Dawkins.

01:09:00.000 It's a weird, like, hangout.

01:09:02.000 Yeah, it was...

01:09:03.000 it's...

01:09:05.000 again, it was like, I think it was like, kind of the comedy store for, you know, heavy metal bands.

01:09:10.000 You know, where Guns N' Roses would go, and Motley Crue, and, you know...

01:09:14.000 And everybody knew that they would go there.

01:09:16.000 Yeah.

01:09:16.000 And it was a big deal.

01:09:17.000 Yeah, it was a big deal, and there was different rooms, and you can walk up there.

01:09:20.000 Is it still like that now?

01:09:22.000 No.

01:09:23.000 I mean, it's there, but I haven't been there in a couple years.

01:09:26.000 The other place that's like that is...

01:09:27.000 Well, not like that, but a cool hang is Dantana's.

01:09:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:34.000 That's the best food.

01:09:35.000 That place has been around forever.

01:09:37.000 Great food.

01:09:38.000 When you're in that, it's like you're in a time capsule to a great restaurant from the...

01:09:42.000 The early 80s.

01:09:44.000 It's really good.

01:09:45.000 The best is the chicken parmesan.

01:09:47.000 Everything's great there.

01:09:48.000 Their steaks are fantastic.

01:09:50.000 We gotta go next time.

01:09:51.000 Linguini with clams is amazing.

01:09:53.000 It's a really good restaurant.

01:09:54.000 And it's a fun hang, too.

01:09:56.000 There's always a bunch of drunks at the bar.

01:09:58.000 A lot of people go there just to hang out.

01:10:01.000 It's not just like go there to dinner.

01:10:03.000 They go there to hang out, too.

01:10:04.000 Kip Adada used to go there before he passed.

01:10:06.000 I used to see him up there a lot.

01:10:07.000 I didn't even know he passed.

01:10:08.000 When did he pass?

01:10:10.000 I don't know.

01:10:11.000 It was a couple years back.

01:10:15.000 But yeah, Westwood.

01:10:16.000 Westwood was a great place.

01:10:19.000 What year did she open that place?

01:10:21.000 Argus knows the exact dates, but I think it was...

01:10:24.000 I think the late 70s.

01:10:28.000 Something like that.

01:10:29.000 The late 70s.

01:10:30.000 What year did Kennison get there?

01:10:32.000 84. Oh, so you were there when he got...

01:10:35.000 Which is so crazy that two years later he's doing his HBO special.

01:10:38.000 Yeah.

01:10:39.000 He was...

01:10:40.000 I mean, dude, this fucking guy.

01:10:42.000 I mean, when he...

01:10:44.000 I mean, his whole thing was the Letterman spot, the Rodney Dangerfield spot.

01:10:49.000 And, like, he did those six minutes on Rodney or whatever it was, sold out 3,000 seats.

01:10:55.000 And then he did...

01:10:57.000 And then he did the next Rodney Young Comedian special, sold out 8,000.

01:11:03.000 And I got to open for him, which was sick.

01:11:07.000 That's amazing, dude.

01:11:09.000 We did his second HBO special.

01:11:11.000 I was at the Wiltern.

01:11:13.000 And Ice-T was there.

01:11:14.000 And this is when Sam was really fucked up.

01:11:16.000 So if you look at the special, you're like, fuck, this guy's all coked out.

01:11:20.000 And he's not doing well.

01:11:22.000 And this is when he came out with the chains with this girl, Malika and Sabrina.

01:11:26.000 He's like, oh, oh, oh.

01:11:27.000 And he was playing the music, and Ice-T was in the audience.

01:11:30.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:11:31.000 And he was like, you know, Sam was doing some racist shit.

01:11:34.000 Yeah, and it was, yeah, he was wild.

01:11:37.000 Well, Sam, did you ever read his Brother Bill, his book?

01:11:41.000 Yeah.

01:11:42.000 Brother Sam, the book's called Brother Sam.

01:11:45.000 He talks about the slide, like when he started partying all the time, he stopped writing, he wasn't performing as much, and he just kind of lost it.

01:11:53.000 Yeah, I saw it.

01:11:54.000 You can tell in the work, if you go and watch his early stuff, it drops off a lot.

01:12:00.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 Which sucks because, you know, you'd like to see them just keep getting better.

01:12:04.000 You know, if he could somehow or another have stayed alive and kicked his addictions and just got better.

01:12:10.000 Yeah.

01:12:11.000 But sometimes what brings you to the dance also sinks you, you know?

01:12:15.000 Well, he introduced me to my business manager.

01:12:20.000 So I have the same business manager that I've had for 25 years.

01:12:23.000 His name is Lester.

01:12:24.000 Hey, Lester.

01:12:24.000 What's up, Lester?

01:12:25.000 Shout out to Lester.

01:12:26.000 And...

01:12:28.000 And Sam, when he was all fucked up and coked out and all that, he had fired everyone in his life, except for Lester.

01:12:36.000 So Lester was always with him, and he said to me, or Sam said to Lester, take care of him, he's like my younger brother.

01:12:44.000 So ever since then, Lester's been taking care of me.

01:12:47.000 Wow, that's nice.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, so Sam, you know, he was, to me, Sam was like Elvis, kind of.

01:12:53.000 He was fucked up, but he had the biggest heart in the world.

01:12:56.000 So he would come to my mom's house.

01:12:58.000 He would always bring presents.

01:13:02.000 That's cool.

01:13:05.000 Seeing the look on your face when you were in our bar, seeing the picture of your mom, the neon sign, that was very cool.

01:13:14.000 It was very cool to be with you, like, right next to you the moment you saw it.

01:13:20.000 Yeah, no, it was, you know, like I said, when we first started talking here, I'm saying that speaking on my mom's behalf, I know her and I know what you're doing with her and how much you care about her and how much you love her and what she's done.

01:13:38.000 I know she's really proud of you.

01:13:41.000 She's really proud of you and she's very proud of what you've done here and very proud of the bar and her spirit is in the bar for sure.

01:13:49.000 Her spirit's in that whole building.

01:13:51.000 Yeah.

01:13:54.000 I mean, we're all disciples.

01:13:56.000 We're all disciples of your mom.

01:13:58.000 I took care of her that last 15 years.

01:14:01.000 Every time I'd see you, I always wanted at the store.

01:14:07.000 I never wanted to bother you.

01:14:10.000 I wanted to always bring you to my mom.

01:14:14.000 But I think maybe we talked about it and you're like, yo, I'm good.

01:14:19.000 I don't want to see her like that.

01:14:21.000 Isn't that what you said to me once, I think?

01:14:23.000 At the end, it was so bad.

01:14:24.000 It was just like...

01:14:25.000 It was just so heavy.

01:14:30.000 Imagine me taking care of her for those years.

01:14:32.000 I couldn't imagine.

01:14:33.000 I mean, imagine me going in to see her and she's in the chair.

01:14:36.000 Yeah.

01:14:36.000 You know, and she's, you know, and I always made it a point to drive her.

01:14:42.000 I always made it a point.

01:14:44.000 You know, me and my mom's caregiver and Scott, we'd always, like, put her in the car and drive her.

01:14:50.000 And we'd always...

01:14:53.000 Take her for drives until her back started hurting.

01:14:56.000 And she'd be like, get me home, you know?

01:14:58.000 But I'd always drive her by the Laugh Factory.

01:15:01.000 It's hilarious.

01:15:02.000 What the fuck is he working there for?

01:15:05.000 The fuck?

01:15:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:07.000 And then we'd drive by the store.

01:15:10.000 And then she'd be like, why is that marquee like that?

01:15:12.000 Call Tommy!

01:15:14.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:14.000 Type shit.

01:15:15.000 I mean, Tommy, I mean, whatever he did, he did.

01:15:18.000 But he took care of her, dude.

01:15:19.000 He did shit that a normal employee would not do.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:15:24.000 Not do.

01:15:24.000 He would carry her up the stairs.

01:15:26.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:27.000 And she wanted him to.

01:15:30.000 You know?

01:15:30.000 She wanted him to.

01:15:32.000 And she felt comfortable with him.

01:15:34.000 You know?

01:15:35.000 Whether good, bad, it's not us to say.

01:15:38.000 That's how she felt.

01:15:40.000 And, um...

01:15:41.000 Yeah, you know, during those, you know, she didn't want to get sick.

01:15:47.000 It started, you know, it started her, my friend Bobby was with her in the front of the store back in the early 2000s, and she's smoking her Capri cigarettes.

01:15:59.000 And she starts seeing her finger go like that.

01:16:01.000 She goes, what's going on?

01:16:03.000 That was in the early 2000s?

01:16:05.000 Yeah, that's when she started getting sick.

01:16:07.000 What's going on?

01:16:08.000 And that's when she shifted her mind away from the store.

01:16:13.000 She didn't want to get sick.

01:16:15.000 She didn't want to die at all.

01:16:18.000 And she did the best she could with whatever she got.

01:16:24.000 I think a lot of it had to do with the business.

01:16:27.000 Because she was an artist running a business.

01:16:30.000 Let me say that again.

01:16:31.000 She was an artist running a business.

01:16:36.000 I don't want to say the business sense wasn't really her thing.

01:16:39.000 She was about the comics.

01:16:41.000 And it's hard to do both.

01:16:43.000 With the numbers and the insurance and the taxes and all that shit that fucked with her.

01:16:49.000 Because that's not who she was.

01:16:51.000 Of course.

01:16:52.000 Because if she was that way, she would never run the club the way she did.

01:16:55.000 She ran it like an artist.

01:16:58.000 So that's why I think she got sick.

01:17:00.000 That's my feeling.

01:17:01.000 Interesting.

01:17:02.000 You know?

01:17:02.000 That pressure.

01:17:03.000 The business part of it.

01:17:05.000 It could be.

01:17:06.000 I mean, pressure is fucking terrible for people.

01:17:08.000 That kind of stress is terrible for people.

01:17:10.000 In so many ways.

01:17:11.000 Heart attacks.

01:17:13.000 People freak the fuck out.

01:17:15.000 You're not supposed to be redlined all the time.

01:17:18.000 You've got to find some moments where you're chilled out.

01:17:20.000 And she did start making a lot of money, and she did start buying property.

01:17:26.000 She bought a theater on Las Palmas and Sunset, and she called it the Richard Pryor Theater.

01:17:33.000 Oh, wow.

01:17:34.000 Did you know about that?

01:17:35.000 Yeah, I'd heard about it, but I'd never been there.

01:17:37.000 Yeah, neither was Richard.

01:17:38.000 What year was that?

01:17:40.000 No, but my mom loved him so much.

01:17:42.000 My mom loved him so much.

01:17:45.000 She goes, he could develop his stuff here, Pauly.

01:17:49.000 This is where he can go to develop all his stuff.

01:17:52.000 And that's how much she loved Richard Pryor.

01:17:54.000 She loved him so much.

01:17:56.000 That's like you're gonna buy Tony Hinchcliffe a club, right?

01:17:59.000 Yeah.

01:17:59.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:18:02.000 And then she did the Dunes in Vegas.

01:18:04.000 That was a big deal.

01:18:05.000 That was a big deal.

01:18:07.000 Doing the Comedy Store in Vegas was a huge deal.

01:18:08.000 Huge deal.

01:18:09.000 I got video of me and Chris Rock.

01:18:11.000 Back then.

01:18:12.000 Because she had the show called New Faces.

01:18:14.000 You never did that.

01:18:15.000 No.

01:18:16.000 Because that was the 80s.

01:18:17.000 Yeah.

01:18:18.000 Late 80s.

01:18:19.000 When I came in, I had been doing stand-up for like six years.

01:18:23.000 And when I lived in Boston, the comedy store was Mecca.

01:18:27.000 It was the place that everybody talked about.

01:18:29.000 Like, you got to get to the comedy store.

01:18:32.000 Like, it was like, Kennison came from there.

01:18:33.000 Briar came from there.

01:18:35.000 And all anyone talked about when they talked about clubs.

01:18:38.000 I mean, there was clubs that we were doing in Boston.

01:18:40.000 There was clubs to do in New York.

01:18:42.000 But really, everybody wanted to get to the comedy store.

01:18:44.000 And then when I first got there, I was on a sitcom already.

01:18:48.000 And, you know, the sitcom was not doing well.

01:18:51.000 It was on Fox.

01:18:51.000 It was failing.

01:18:52.000 And the most important thing that happened to me was getting passed as a paid regular.

01:18:58.000 And the Todd helped me out.

01:19:02.000 That Todd sat next to your mom and was laughing really hard.

01:19:06.000 And then he came up to me afterwards.

01:19:07.000 He goes, hey.

01:19:08.000 He goes, I laughed really hard at your jokes because you're really funny and also because Mitzi's sitting next to me.

01:19:13.000 And you're going to do that, too, to somebody else.

01:19:15.000 I'm like, okay, you got it.

01:19:17.000 I'm like, that's great.

01:19:18.000 Like, there was a community there.

01:19:21.000 Like, he set it up.

01:19:23.000 Like, what the Todd did, he set it up with me where I was going to do that for everybody.

01:19:28.000 Like, anytime anybody was really funny, I would go.

01:19:30.000 And I would...

01:19:31.000 One time your mom booked this comedian that was fucking terrible to host the open mic night, and Chris McGuire was supposed to do his first audition in front of your mom.

01:19:44.000 And I was like, there's no fucking way.

01:19:45.000 I'm like, I'll do it.

01:19:46.000 So I hosted the open mic night.

01:19:49.000 Just so that I could set a stage for Chris.

01:19:52.000 I just wanted it to be a good show.

01:19:54.000 I don't know who Chris McGuire is.

01:19:56.000 He's a good friend of mine from Boston.

01:19:57.000 He's a funny guy.

01:19:57.000 I don't know if he does stand-up anymore.

01:20:00.000 He was a very good writer.

01:20:01.000 Very funny guy.

01:20:02.000 He was a very funny comic, too.

01:20:03.000 We started out together.

01:20:04.000 So he went on stage in front of her?

01:20:06.000 He didn't do good?

01:20:06.000 No, he did well.

01:20:07.000 He did really well.

01:20:08.000 No, he got passed.

01:20:09.000 But it was like...

01:20:11.000 I did the open mic hosting because I wanted to make sure it was set up good for your mom.

01:20:15.000 Yeah, tee it up.

01:20:16.000 Tee it up for your homie, right?

01:20:18.000 Yeah, I wanted to tee it up.

01:20:19.000 Because if you couldn't sit next to her and laugh, you should tell her someone's funny.

01:20:26.000 But if you fucked up though, if you told her something, you fucking think he's funny?

01:20:31.000 She would get so mad.

01:20:34.000 Your mother had amazing taste, though.

01:20:36.000 The funniest was I'd sit next to her as well, and I would see people go on stage, and if she called you over, you did good.

01:20:44.000 And if she didn't call you over, she wasn't interested.

01:20:47.000 They'd do their set, and they'd just walk by her, and they're looking at her, and she's just like...

01:20:54.000 Just going through her papers and shit.

01:20:56.000 Yeah.

01:20:57.000 But yeah.

01:20:58.000 But if she liked you, you know, she brought you in, you know.

01:21:01.000 But having something like that, like some gold standard bear keeper at the top was very valuable for the comedians.

01:21:08.000 It was very valuable.

01:21:10.000 And she also would do, when she thought you were funny, she'd put you on after killers.

01:21:14.000 You always had to follow whoever was famous that was going to go down there.

01:21:18.000 She wanted to make sure that you were tested, throw you into the fire, and that's how you get better.

01:21:23.000 She just fucking knew, man.

01:21:25.000 She knew.

01:21:26.000 And it's all things that people talk about now, but I think in her own way, she sort of devised a modern strategy for getting better at stand-up.

01:21:38.000 Having the environment, which she created, having one person who's ruthlessly critical that watches over everybody's material and everybody's sets, and then everybody aspires for the approval of your mom.

01:21:51.000 And she had it set up so perfectly.

01:21:54.000 And because she wasn't a comic either, and because she's royalty in the stand-up comedy world, she had everyone's respect.

01:22:01.000 And she was right.

01:22:03.000 She was right.

01:22:04.000 She knew.

01:22:05.000 She knew what the fuck to tell you.

01:22:07.000 She didn't like Seinfeld.

01:22:09.000 Which was hilarious.

01:22:10.000 Which is hilarious.

01:22:11.000 He lived up the street from me and my mom.

01:22:15.000 So me and my mom would walk the dog, Kelly, her dog, and we would walk by his house.

01:22:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:22.000 Oh, there he is.

01:22:23.000 Not happening.

01:22:26.000 You know?

01:22:27.000 Rat-tat-tat, New York.

01:22:29.000 That's so weird.

01:22:30.000 Keep it going.

01:22:31.000 Let's keep moving.

01:22:32.000 I'm like, Mom, be nice to him.

01:22:33.000 He's like, no, let's go.

01:22:35.000 And she just didn't buy into it.

01:22:37.000 That's so funny.

01:22:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:39.000 She didn't buy into it.

01:22:40.000 I wonder why.

01:22:42.000 Maybe because he didn't need her.

01:22:44.000 I don't know.

01:22:45.000 Because he had already made it and he had a sitcom.

01:22:47.000 He was Seinfeld.

01:22:49.000 Oh, so he was already on Seinfeld when he auditioned for you?

01:22:52.000 I mean, he'd been on that show for a while.

01:22:54.000 It was around that time.

01:22:54.000 It was the early 90s, right?

01:22:56.000 Yeah.

01:22:57.000 I don't know what the exact date was.

01:22:59.000 She didn't like it when you were too developed.

01:23:02.000 Correct.

01:23:03.000 Yeah, she liked getting people that had talent that were on the up.

01:23:07.000 She didn't really like a lot of New York comics for some reason.

01:23:11.000 Interesting.

01:23:12.000 There was also a rift between, obviously, her and Bud Friedman and her and Lorne Michaels.

01:23:17.000 People ask me, like, hey, when you're doing all your movies, did you ever do Saturday Night Live?

01:23:22.000 Did you ever host Saturday Night Live?

01:23:24.000 I never did, and I think a lot of it has to do with Lorne Michaels and my mom.

01:23:28.000 I'm sure it can't help.

01:23:30.000 No.

01:23:31.000 Can't help.

01:23:31.000 Because she was harsh, you know what I mean?

01:23:33.000 My mom had Jim Carrey and Damon Wayans and all these guys, and they were from the store.

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:38.000 And, you know, so...

01:23:42.000 I wonder if your mom was concerned that if someone like Seinfeld got on, that people who would want to see sitcom-style stand-up, like very sterile stand-up, would start coming to the clubs.

01:23:56.000 And then you would start getting people going to see people just because they're famous and not really because they're good.

01:24:06.000 I mean, she probably had a method to her approach.

01:24:10.000 I wonder what she was thinking.

01:24:12.000 Or I wonder if she just didn't want it because he was already developed and she couldn't work with him.

01:24:17.000 I don't think she just liked him.

01:24:18.000 I just don't think she liked that style.

01:24:21.000 But as she was driving by his house, she's still talking shit.

01:24:23.000 No, we're walking.

01:24:24.000 Yeah, walking by the house.

01:24:25.000 And then he said some shit.

01:24:27.000 And that's another thing.

01:24:29.000 He never asked me on his fucking car show.

01:24:31.000 I got all my friends on his car show.

01:24:33.000 I'm like, dude.

01:24:33.000 And it's again, I think like, it's always awkward.

01:24:36.000 And Leno too.

01:24:37.000 Whenever I see Leno, it's fucking weird.

01:24:40.000 Letterman's cool.

01:24:41.000 I love Letterman.

01:24:42.000 But Leno's always been weird, because these guys, like, Leno striked against my mom, and there was this weird thing.

01:24:50.000 My relationship with Leno is very different.

01:24:51.000 He's always been very nice to me.

01:24:53.000 And we both love cars, so I have great conversations with him about cars.

01:24:57.000 I don't know the history of that.

01:24:59.000 I mean, I do know it, but I wasn't aware of it.

01:25:01.000 But my point is that he never did anything to me.

01:25:05.000 I'm just talking about my mom's relationship with Jay, and I think it has to do with the strike.

01:25:09.000 But when I did see Jay at the Palm restaurant in Beverly Hills years ago when my mom was there, he came up and gave her a kiss.

01:25:17.000 But then, of course, she mumbled.

01:25:19.000 The fuck is going on with him?

01:25:21.000 Tell him to get the fuck out of here.

01:25:24.000 That's just the way.

01:25:25.000 She was so funny, dude.

01:25:27.000 She was so funny.

01:25:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:29.000 And when your mom told you you were funny, it was like the greatest gift that you could ever give a comic.

01:25:35.000 She came up to you and put her hand on your arm, that was really funny.

01:25:40.000 She never said that to me.

01:25:43.000 I had to become famous, bro, before she put me on her stage.

01:25:46.000 For real, dude.

01:25:47.000 I'm like, Mom, can I go on stage?

01:25:49.000 These people are here to see me.

01:25:50.000 You're not ready.

01:25:51.000 Not happening.

01:25:53.000 You got more.

01:25:53.000 And she was right.

01:25:54.000 Because I was fucking around.

01:25:56.000 Right.

01:25:57.000 Hey, bro.

01:25:58.000 Whoa.

01:26:00.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:03.000 I've been told by comedians that she was very proud.

01:26:05.000 But she never said it to me.

01:26:06.000 That's another thing.

01:26:07.000 She never told me she loved me.

01:26:09.000 Oh, wow.

01:26:11.000 I can't say I love you because then you wouldn't be a comic.

01:26:15.000 Oh my god!

01:26:17.000 You're a science project.

01:26:20.000 She used to lock me in the back bedroom.

01:26:22.000 I can't say I love you because then you wouldn't be a comic.

01:26:24.000 Wow.

01:26:25.000 She figured out a way to make you a comic.

01:26:28.000 I programmed him.

01:26:29.000 I used to put him in the back bedroom.

01:26:31.000 He would pound his head against the crib.

01:26:34.000 Jesus Christ.

01:26:35.000 It's true.

01:26:36.000 Imagine if that was like how a dictatorship created comedians.

01:26:41.000 Like Soviet block, they decided to take over the comedy world and they're just gonna torture kids.

01:26:49.000 Just start open mics.

01:26:51.000 Torture kids at a very young age.

01:26:53.000 I think we have a good thing here.

01:26:54.000 We could do it at the mothership.

01:26:56.000 Yeah, fuck them up.

01:26:57.000 Now, you'd have to do it in a country that doesn't have the Constitution.

01:27:00.000 Right.

01:27:01.000 If you're gonna do it right, it's gonna be some communist dictatorship.

01:27:04.000 Maybe China could do this.

01:27:05.000 Right.

01:27:06.000 Russia?

01:27:07.000 Yeah, Russia could do that.

01:27:09.000 And then introduce them slowly to the idea of stand-up comedy.

01:27:13.000 But beat them first and torture them, right?

01:27:15.000 Definitely don't make them comfortable.

01:27:17.000 Right.

01:27:17.000 Don't beat them.

01:27:18.000 Did you get beaten?

01:27:19.000 No.

01:27:20.000 See, that would be too much.

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:22.000 Then you wouldn't be able to get on stage.

01:27:23.000 You'd be fucked up.

01:27:24.000 Yeah.

01:27:25.000 Yeah.

01:27:26.000 I mean, if you really think about it, like, the...

01:27:30.000 What are the odds that someone becomes a stand-up comedy, a stand-up comedian?

01:27:36.000 If you look at the 300-whatever-the-hell million people it is, just in this country alone, forget about all the other countries that do stand-up, what are the odds that someone becomes a comic?

01:27:45.000 They're not that fucking good.

01:27:47.000 They're pretty small.

01:27:48.000 I tell people, I say, because people come up to me, I'm sure they come up to you, I'm like, don't do it unless it gets you out of bed.

01:27:55.000 Don't do it as a hobby.

01:27:58.000 I'm 55. I've been doing it for 35 years.

01:28:01.000 I love it now even more than I loved it back then.

01:28:04.000 I just love it.

01:28:06.000 I think when you get older, one of the things that happens is you can appreciate it more.

01:28:10.000 You can appreciate what this thing is.

01:28:14.000 You appreciate how lucky you are to be able to do it.

01:28:17.000 It's so much fun.

01:28:18.000 It makes people feel good.

01:28:19.000 It really does.

01:28:20.000 Like, the whole audience has a great time.

01:28:22.000 Everybody feels better.

01:28:23.000 It's like a drug we all take together.

01:28:25.000 We're all laughing about things together.

01:28:27.000 You know, it's just my job to put it together.

01:28:29.000 It's your job to, you know, piece together your ideas in the most palatable way possible.

01:28:34.000 That's what we're all just doing.

01:28:36.000 And it's the most fun thing to do.

01:28:38.000 And the fact that you do that for a living, of course you'd want to do it all the time.

01:28:41.000 And as you get older and you realize that You know, most people don't really get to do what they truly love to do.

01:28:48.000 There's most people out there in some weird thing where they kind of like what they do, but they maybe wish they were doing something else.

01:28:54.000 When you're doing stand-up, when you're on stage killing, you never think, I wish I was doing something else.

01:28:58.000 Mm-mm.

01:28:59.000 You're just like, this is so much fun.

01:29:01.000 So much fun!

01:29:04.000 For me, and I'm sure for you, it's the place that I feel the less stressed.

01:29:09.000 Yes.

01:29:10.000 The least stressed.

01:29:11.000 Least stressed.

01:29:12.000 You know, after you get off stage, you're like, you know, there's this, I don't know if it's dopamine, I don't know what the fuck it is, but it's a release.

01:29:19.000 Yeah.

01:29:20.000 Yeah.

01:29:20.000 Like when my mom was dying, like those 15 years, I was touring a lot.

01:29:24.000 I wasn't around the store a lot when you were there.

01:29:27.000 I was on the road, and it fucking saved my life.

01:29:30.000 Big time.

01:29:30.000 That's awesome.

01:29:31.000 Big time.

01:29:32.000 That's awesome.

01:29:33.000 Yeah, it is.

01:29:35.000 It's a stress reliever that we have.

01:29:39.000 We're lucky.

01:29:40.000 Yeah, we're very lucky.

01:29:43.000 It's just...

01:29:44.000 You know, it's...

01:29:48.000 It's amazing how much it takes, like how many pieces have to be put into place to make a club work.

01:29:55.000 That's why it's amazing that your mom was able to do it and sustain it for so long.

01:29:59.000 There's so many moving pieces.

01:30:01.000 There's so much going on, you know?

01:30:04.000 And you're dealing with so many different personalities.

01:30:06.000 So many different crazy people that are performers.

01:30:10.000 It's interesting because when I'm there now...

01:30:12.000 I look around and I see her there.

01:30:15.000 Like I said, that's where she talked to Roseanne.

01:30:18.000 That's where Gary Shanley was.

01:30:20.000 That's where Sam walked into the bar.

01:30:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:23.000 These ghosts, you know, they're still there.

01:30:26.000 Like I feel like her there, yeah.

01:30:30.000 But yeah, she left an amazing legacy for sure.

01:30:39.000 Yeah, she definitely did.

01:30:41.000 When you're doing stand-up now, are you doing clubs on the road?

01:30:45.000 Are you touring around?

01:30:47.000 Mostly bowling alleys.

01:30:49.000 No, but are you doing the road?

01:30:50.000 Are you staying in LA? Mostly the road.

01:30:54.000 Yeah?

01:30:54.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 I have a nice audience out there that, after all these years...

01:31:00.000 I don't want to say shocked, but I'm still appreciative that these people come in my...

01:31:06.000 You put on a good show, man.

01:31:07.000 You were funny as shit.

01:31:08.000 I really enjoyed it.

01:31:09.000 It was really fun.

01:31:10.000 It was fun to see.

01:31:11.000 It was fun to see you loose and relaxed.

01:31:15.000 Because I think when I've seen you at the store, I think because you grew up at the store, the connection you have to the store, I think there's a lot of pressure on you in not a positive way when you go on stage there.

01:31:27.000 Yeah.

01:31:27.000 Is that true?

01:31:28.000 Yeah.

01:31:28.000 Well, I said that to you.

01:31:29.000 I said that.

01:31:31.000 Yeah, because when I walk in the store, even if I'm not performing there, it's uncomfortable.

01:31:35.000 Right.

01:31:36.000 Because I'm walking into my mother.

01:31:38.000 Right.

01:31:38.000 I'm walking into my father.

01:31:40.000 I'm walking in all that history.

01:31:41.000 Right.

01:31:41.000 You know, and when I'm away from there, it's Pauly Shore.

01:31:46.000 It's the guy from the movies.

01:31:48.000 It's the comedian guy.

01:31:49.000 You know, they don't care about that.

01:31:51.000 Yeah.

01:31:52.000 You were silly and loose.

01:31:53.000 And I was like, I think that's the first time I've ever seen him like that.

01:31:57.000 Which is crazy.

01:31:58.000 All the years I've known you, to see you that loose.

01:32:01.000 Like, the first time ever.

01:32:03.000 But it's like...

01:32:04.000 And that was the first time I was ever on your stage.

01:32:06.000 Yeah.

01:32:07.000 So that was cool.

01:32:08.000 Crazy.

01:32:08.000 So I felt really...

01:32:10.000 You know, I love that room.

01:32:11.000 I love both.

01:32:12.000 Yeah, they're both...

01:32:13.000 You're gonna love the other one, too.

01:32:14.000 But that room is special.

01:32:16.000 There's something cool about it.

01:32:17.000 It's very unusual.

01:32:18.000 And so what's it like touring with Chappelle?

01:32:21.000 I mean, that must be...

01:32:21.000 You must be pinching yourself on that.

01:32:23.000 I see you on stage with him.

01:32:25.000 You must be.

01:32:25.000 I mean, because you know and I know he's got to be the best out there.

01:32:29.000 He's the best right now.

01:32:30.000 He might be the best ever.

01:32:31.000 I agree.

01:32:32.000 I mean, his eight shows at the Hollywood Bowl.

01:32:36.000 I mean, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, those guys, George Carlin, they never sold out eight nights at the Bowl.

01:32:42.000 No.

01:32:43.000 And he could have done 20 more nights.

01:32:45.000 He could do whatever he wants.

01:32:46.000 What's it like working with him?

01:32:48.000 It's a privilege!

01:32:50.000 You know, you're very, very, very fortunate to have an artist of that caliber as a great friend.

01:32:55.000 You know, he came to the club the first week it was opened.

01:32:58.000 Maybe the second week?

01:33:00.000 Maybe the second week?

01:33:01.000 Yeah, he was there.

01:33:02.000 The second week?

01:33:03.000 Somewhere around there.

01:33:04.000 It was, like, right when we were, like, really open.

01:33:06.000 And he actually opened the Little Room.

01:33:08.000 He was the first person on stage in that Little Room was Shane Gillis.

01:33:12.000 Shane did 15 minutes, and he brought up Chappelle.

01:33:14.000 And then Chappelle did, like, man, he did over an hour.

01:33:18.000 I think he did like an hour and a half.

01:33:20.000 And he was just fucking around and being loose and just working on new material.

01:33:24.000 He goes, I'm here to practice on y'all!

01:33:27.000 He just practices on people and he comes up with material that way.

01:33:32.000 He puts himself in these very vulnerable positions and he works through ideas and has someone film it and then that's how he pieces together his material.

01:33:41.000 When I watch his Netflix specials, he's got so many of them, they're still fresh.

01:33:47.000 And I watch other people's Netflix specials, because I'm open to other comics, and it's just like, I can't connect.

01:33:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:56.000 And with him, I always say, people always ask me, who your favorite comedian is now?

01:34:01.000 I say, there's Dave Chappelle, and there's everyone else.

01:34:04.000 That's just how I feel.

01:34:05.000 And I don't know if it's because I grew up around it.

01:34:07.000 I'm not saying there's not great comics now.

01:34:09.000 But when I look at that OR stage now, and I see the comedians on there, my mind goes to Kenison.

01:34:17.000 My mind goes to Robin.

01:34:18.000 My mind goes to...

01:34:19.000 Because those are the people that I saw on that stage.

01:34:22.000 And with Chappelle, I'm just like...

01:34:24.000 It's just...

01:34:25.000 I've never seen anything like it.

01:34:27.000 We're so blessed to have him in our lives.

01:34:30.000 It's not just that it's really funny.

01:34:31.000 It's like the things he's talking about and the way he's breaking things down.

01:34:36.000 His perspective on things.

01:34:38.000 So it's not just being funny.

01:34:39.000 It's a very interesting perspective.

01:34:42.000 It's a very smart perspective.

01:34:43.000 He's so relaxed and he's so fucking...

01:34:46.000 Yeah.

01:34:47.000 And he loves it, man.

01:34:49.000 He's on the road constantly.

01:34:50.000 He's always doing stand-up.

01:34:51.000 He loves it.

01:34:52.000 Yeah.

01:34:53.000 Loves it.

01:34:53.000 And then I went and visited him, and I got his shirt.

01:34:55.000 He gave me his shirt.

01:34:56.000 He has a shop.

01:34:58.000 He's got a Chappelle shop with all his clothes.

01:35:00.000 I went to his little town.

01:35:02.000 I'm sure you've been there.

01:35:03.000 Have you been to Yellow Springs?

01:35:04.000 I haven't been to Yellow Springs.

01:35:04.000 Yeah.

01:35:05.000 It's pretty cool.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, it's dope that he did it, the way he set it up.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, because we were at his house, and he did that vitamin drip.

01:35:14.000 He did that, and it was just me and him.

01:35:17.000 Did you ever do that?

01:35:18.000 I haven't done it.

01:35:19.000 Oh, no, wait, I did it.

01:35:20.000 No, they did connect me that day.

01:35:23.000 They gave me a vitamin drip.

01:35:24.000 Dude.

01:35:25.000 Yeah.

01:35:26.000 It's a bomb diggity.

01:35:27.000 Really?

01:35:27.000 Yeah, especially if you feel bad.

01:35:29.000 If you don't feel well, it's really good.

01:35:32.000 IV zinc and vitamin C. And so the nurse comes over?

01:35:37.000 Glutathione.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, and they give you an IV. Rehydrates you, gives you a lot of vitamins.

01:35:42.000 It's just...

01:35:44.000 Athletes love it.

01:35:45.000 They like to do it as much as possible.

01:35:46.000 Yeah, I think Adam Ray, I saw him recently in West Hollywood, and he was coming out of a place like that, and I think he was doing it too.

01:35:54.000 Yeah, there's quite a few of those places now.

01:35:56.000 When you were living in Vegas, did you go up at all?

01:35:59.000 I did.

01:35:59.000 Where were you working at?

01:36:00.000 I helped start Wise Guys, which is the comedy club there with Keith.

01:36:05.000 So Keith's the owner of the Wise Guys you know in Utah.

01:36:09.000 I heard the Wise Guys in Vegas is awesome.

01:36:11.000 Yeah, so Duncan's played there, Ari's played there.

01:36:15.000 How many seats?

01:36:16.000 It's like 200, 220. It's in the Arts District.

01:36:22.000 So yeah, I played there and I did some shows at the Laugh Factory.

01:36:25.000 Where's the Arts District?

01:36:29.000 Downtown is like another city.

01:36:31.000 Downtown should not be Vegas.

01:36:33.000 Don't call that Vegas.

01:36:34.000 What is that?

01:36:36.000 No, here's Fremont and then the Strip's over here.

01:36:38.000 So Arts District is in between Fremont and the Strip.

01:36:45.000 When you think of Vegas, you think of casinos, right?

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.000 But there's like a whole vibrant bar scene.

01:36:50.000 There's great restaurants.

01:36:52.000 There's a place called Esther's Kitchen.

01:36:54.000 There's Sparrow and Wolf.

01:36:56.000 But that is not Vegas.

01:36:58.000 There's a small...

01:37:01.000 I guess it is Vegas.

01:37:02.000 What am I saying?

01:37:04.000 That's the real Vegas.

01:37:05.000 That's the heartbeat of Vegas.

01:37:06.000 Oh, for sure.

01:37:07.000 The Vegas industry all live off the strip.

01:37:10.000 The dancers, the magicians, the bottle service girls, all those girls, and all the people, Summerlin, Henderson.

01:37:17.000 So I was there for two and a half years.

01:37:20.000 It was great.

01:37:20.000 It was during the pandemic.

01:37:21.000 I lived next to Nicolas Cage.

01:37:24.000 Yeah.

01:37:24.000 Which was cool.

01:37:25.000 Carrot Top's actually the one that reintroduced me to him.

01:37:30.000 And I had known Nicolas Cage because we went to the same high school from back in the day.

01:37:35.000 So when we connected, it was weird because I'm like you, huge fan.

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 I mean, he's been doing it for 40 years.

01:37:45.000 And his movies are, you know, he's one of the best actors.

01:37:48.000 So when I'm, he'll hit me up, he'll be like, yo, come out, let's go.

01:37:51.000 And then he'll like text me and he'll be in his $500,000, you know, Ferrari.

01:37:57.000 I'm like, where are we going?

01:37:57.000 He's like, we're gonna get some sushi.

01:37:59.000 So we'll go get sushi.

01:38:01.000 And then we'll drive down Las Vegas Boulevard.

01:38:03.000 I'm like, dude, you don't need that.

01:38:04.000 He's got eight cars.

01:38:05.000 I'm like, you don't need this.

01:38:06.000 He goes, yeah, but it's badass.

01:38:08.000 That's his answer to it.

01:38:10.000 It's badass.

01:38:10.000 I'm like, alright.

01:38:11.000 He's correct.

01:38:12.000 It's true.

01:38:12.000 And his house is awesome.

01:38:14.000 Yeah, but you're like, you're a little more sensible.

01:38:17.000 Like, hey.

01:38:17.000 Yeah.

01:38:18.000 What are you doing, Nick?

01:38:19.000 Yeah.

01:38:20.000 Slow down.

01:38:20.000 He's trying to be Nick Cage.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, he is.

01:38:23.000 He's doing it.

01:38:23.000 He loves it.

01:38:25.000 And his house is cool, and he's great.

01:38:28.000 But he's not on social media.

01:38:31.000 We signed an NDA. He made me sign an NDA. Wow.

01:38:35.000 That I can't put any videos or photos anywhere.

01:38:38.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:38:39.000 He didn't sign it.

01:38:41.000 But one of the first conversations with him is when I came over to his house.

01:38:46.000 He's like, come over.

01:38:47.000 You're my neighbor out of nowhere.

01:38:50.000 So I come over, we start having a nice glass of wine, and he says, I'm not doing your podcast!

01:38:55.000 I'm like, I didn't ask you to fucking be on the podcast, I'm just here, what's up?

01:39:00.000 And he goes, just one thing promised me, he goes, don't ever post any pictures or videos of us together, because I want to be private.

01:39:07.000 I'm like, cool.

01:39:08.000 And ever since then, it's been cool.

01:39:11.000 That's cool.

01:39:12.000 But I do have a lot of photos and videos of him.

01:39:14.000 Of his dick?

01:39:15.000 Of his penis.

01:39:16.000 Oh, nice.

01:39:17.000 But he is funny, dude.

01:39:19.000 I'm sure he is.

01:39:20.000 He seems like a real character.

01:39:22.000 And it's so funny that he changed his last name because he was connected to Francis Ford Coppola, right?

01:39:27.000 Because of his nephew, is that what he is?

01:39:29.000 Yeah, no, what he said, what Nick said is when he first started acting, he was on the set of, I think it was Fast Times at Richmond High.

01:39:37.000 He was with, I think it was Sean Penn, and there was different actors, and they go, oh, you're just here because your uncle is Francis Ford Coppola.

01:39:47.000 So he didn't want to be known as that.

01:39:50.000 So he didn't want to be known as that.

01:39:52.000 So he wanted his own identity.

01:39:54.000 And it worked.

01:39:56.000 Because America or the world, they don't think like, oh, that's Francis Ford Coppola's nephew.

01:40:04.000 Because his father was Francis Ford Coppola's brother.

01:40:08.000 Right.

01:40:09.000 That was in the 60 Minutes thing, right?

01:40:10.000 Yeah.

01:40:11.000 The 60 Minutes thing was fun.

01:40:13.000 It was very fun.

01:40:14.000 But what a great move, too.

01:40:16.000 Name yourself after a fucking superhero.

01:40:17.000 Nick Cage.

01:40:20.000 It's awesome.

01:40:21.000 And he's been in so many fun movies, man.

01:40:23.000 I mean, that guy was in...

01:40:26.000 What's the Arizona movie?

01:40:28.000 Raising Arizona.

01:40:30.000 I mean, Moonstruck and Leaving Las Vegas.

01:40:33.000 But Raising Arizona was fucking amazing.

01:40:35.000 So many.

01:40:36.000 So many fucking great movies.

01:40:39.000 Yeah, he's a good dude.

01:40:40.000 We hang out at this sushi bar in Vegas on Sahara.

01:40:43.000 It's pretty good.

01:40:46.000 He's very sensitive, as you can imagine, but he's a sweetheart.

01:40:51.000 I'm sure.

01:40:52.000 I would expect nothing else.

01:40:54.000 Smart of him staying off social media, too.

01:40:57.000 You don't need it, buddy.

01:40:59.000 It's not his thing.

01:41:00.000 You don't need it, anyway.

01:41:03.000 You're Nicolas Cage.

01:41:04.000 And he goes from one movie to the next movie to the next movie.

01:41:09.000 And he loves acting.

01:41:10.000 Dude, how about Leaving Las Vegas?

01:41:12.000 Yeah.

01:41:13.000 Remember that movie?

01:41:14.000 Hell yeah.

01:41:15.000 Holy shit.

01:41:16.000 That movie was heavy.

01:41:18.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.000 Heavy.

01:41:22.000 Did you see Pig?

01:41:23.000 No.

01:41:24.000 That's his favorite movie that he did.

01:41:26.000 Really?

01:41:26.000 You gotta watch Pig.

01:41:27.000 I've heard it's great.

01:41:28.000 It's really good.

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, it's fucking great.

01:41:32.000 That and Guesthouse, my movie Guesthouse.

01:41:35.000 Watch Mind Stoned.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, look at him right there.

01:41:40.000 What is pig about?

01:41:42.000 Someone steals his truffle pig.

01:41:45.000 Oh, no.

01:41:46.000 Yeah, and he's not happy about it.

01:41:48.000 Oh, he looks wild as fuck.

01:41:49.000 Look at him.

01:41:50.000 Where's he supposed to be living?

01:41:52.000 I think it's in Portland, in the woods.

01:41:54.000 Oh, wow.

01:41:55.000 Yeah.

01:41:56.000 No shit.

01:41:56.000 Yeah, he's such a sweetheart.

01:41:58.000 He's such a great guy.

01:41:59.000 I'm very happy that I got to connect with him.

01:42:03.000 Who has my pig?

01:42:04.000 Is this an action movie?

01:42:05.000 Does he fuck people up?

01:42:06.000 It's a good drama.

01:42:07.000 Good movie.

01:42:07.000 Is there like John Wick with pigs?

01:42:08.000 Nah, not quite.

01:42:09.000 Not quite.

01:42:10.000 But close, I guess.

01:42:12.000 There's all those movies like, you fuck with the wrong guy.

01:42:15.000 There's so many movies like that.

01:42:19.000 You know, boy, did you fuck up.

01:42:21.000 There's so many movies like that.

01:42:23.000 That was The Old Man.

01:42:24.000 Did you ever see The Old Man?

01:42:26.000 It was a series that was on...

01:42:29.000 Is it on Apple?

01:42:32.000 It might be on Apple.

01:42:34.000 It's on one of them weird ones.

01:42:37.000 But it was really good at first.

01:42:39.000 And it just kind of teetered off.

01:42:41.000 It's called what?

01:42:43.000 This isn't on FX. Does that make sense?

01:42:46.000 Might have been on Hulu.

01:42:47.000 Put up an image of it so we can see it.

01:42:50.000 Old man, and it's Jeffrey Bridges, and he plays an old hitman that people fuck with the wrong guy.

01:42:59.000 They fuck with the wrong guy.

01:43:01.000 It's one of them, one of them movies, or one of them shows.

01:43:04.000 I really enjoy the Fucked with the Wrong Guy show.

01:43:08.000 That was really good in the beginning.

01:43:10.000 It's really good for a few episodes that I lost interest, for whatever reason, but the beginning is, it's worth the ride.

01:43:18.000 I haven't seen it.

01:43:20.000 I haven't seen that one.

01:43:23.000 I haven't seen that one.

01:43:24.000 But yeah, so he's there.

01:43:27.000 Who else was there?

01:43:28.000 I don't know.

01:43:30.000 In Vegas?

01:43:31.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 Well, you have a lot of clubs there now.

01:43:33.000 Vegas is a real scene now.

01:43:35.000 There was Jimmy Kimmel's club, I think.

01:43:37.000 Is that still there?

01:43:37.000 I think it's still there.

01:43:38.000 And then there's Brad Garrett's club.

01:43:40.000 It's been there for a long time.

01:43:41.000 And then you have the cellar that's there that's supposed to be really good.

01:43:45.000 I hear nothing but good things.

01:43:46.000 You have Wise Guys that's really good.

01:43:48.000 Nothing but good things.

01:43:50.000 And then you have the Laugh Factory.

01:43:51.000 Laugh Factory at the chop, yeah.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, I mean, that is a lot of comedy, you know?

01:43:55.000 And if they're doing daily shows, how many of those—are they bringing in people for an entire week, like a headliner?

01:44:01.000 Is that how they're doing it for the most part?

01:44:02.000 Yeah, sometimes they'll bring in—yeah, starting like on a Wednesday.

01:44:05.000 Yeah, well, sometimes it's like on a Monday.

01:44:07.000 I look at some of the schedules.

01:44:08.000 You know, the last—I don't want to say the last time I was at the Tropicana, but I remember a couple years ago I was at Tropicana.

01:44:15.000 Gallagher had like the— He had the 7 o'clock spot.

01:44:19.000 Oh, wow.

01:44:20.000 Yeah.

01:44:20.000 Remember Gallagher?

01:44:21.000 Yeah, sure.

01:44:22.000 Yeah, he passed.

01:44:23.000 Yeah.

01:44:24.000 I remember when his brother took over, became Gallagher too.

01:44:28.000 He quit, and then his brother started doing his act, and he's like, hey, I want my act back.

01:44:34.000 They had some sort of a dispute over who gets to be Gallagher.

01:44:38.000 Yeah, he wasn't happy about it.

01:44:40.000 Imagine Scott taking my act.

01:44:42.000 But just the idea that you could have a guy who kind of looks like you, but everybody knows it's not really him.

01:44:50.000 Right.

01:44:51.000 But they still pay to see him.

01:44:54.000 And then when you say, hey, I'm going to go back, dude, stand up, you got to stop doing that.

01:44:57.000 It's like, fuck you, bro.

01:44:59.000 You literally gave this guy his whole career.

01:45:01.000 Right.

01:45:03.000 Unless there was maybe some legal work involved.

01:45:05.000 Well, there's also a lot of these lookalikes.

01:45:09.000 So like I saw, was it, I think, Legends of Las Vegas?

01:45:13.000 Because I saw some of the shows while I was there.

01:45:15.000 I saw Prince lookalike, and he was great.

01:45:19.000 Like, unfucking believable.

01:45:20.000 I saw Rod Stewart lookalike, and I saw Rod Stewart, and the lookalike was better.

01:45:25.000 Well, the lookalike meaning an impersonator?

01:45:28.000 Yeah, the impersonator, yeah.

01:45:29.000 So like they sing them and the whole deal?

01:45:31.000 Yeah, he does the whole thing.

01:45:32.000 He's better than Rod Stewart?

01:45:33.000 Well, Rod Stewart's amazing, but he's, you know...

01:45:36.000 Well, you know what happened with Journey, right?

01:45:38.000 I don't.

01:45:39.000 Journey had Steve...

01:45:41.000 What is his name?

01:45:42.000 Steve Perry.

01:45:43.000 Steve Perry retired from Journey.

01:45:45.000 Oh, yeah, they got a kid, yeah.

01:45:46.000 And then this young guy who used to do a Journey cover band who has the most insane imitation of Steve Perry.

01:45:53.000 His voice is incredible.

01:45:55.000 I remember.

01:45:59.000 So his name is Arnel Pineda.

01:46:05.000 It might be Pineda.

01:46:09.000 And he's from the Philippines.

01:46:10.000 And this dude was just a fan.

01:46:12.000 But you've got to listen to it.

01:46:14.000 See if you can find one of them.

01:46:15.000 Listen to this.

01:46:18.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:24.000 I mean, it's incredible.

01:46:30.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:35.000 But he's so good, like, it doesn't bother you at all that Steve Perry's not there.

01:46:42.000 Maybe it bothers some people, but it's so good.

01:46:45.000 Just a small town girl Living in a lonely world She took to midnight, she ain't going anywhere He sounds exactly like the dude.

01:47:14.000 Wait until he hits the high notes.

01:47:18.000 When he really goes off, you're like, this kid is fucking talented.

01:47:35.000 Mm.

01:48:10.000 Now here's the thing that's crazy.

01:48:12.000 Look at that audience.

01:48:13.000 Right, they don't care.

01:48:15.000 Not only that, they're young.

01:48:16.000 Wow.

01:48:17.000 These are young people.

01:48:18.000 Right.

01:48:18.000 These are like new Journey fans.

01:48:20.000 Right.

01:48:21.000 Didn't they do this with Alice in Chains too, right?

01:48:23.000 I think this guy, does he speak like perfect English?

01:48:28.000 Does he speak with an accent?

01:48:31.000 Which is wild, because he's singing perfect.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, because is he Filipino?

01:48:36.000 Yes, he's from the Philippines.

01:48:37.000 That's why he's holding up that flag.

01:48:38.000 Oh, wow.

01:48:39.000 Didn't they do this with Alice in Chains, right?

01:48:44.000 Alice in Chains?

01:48:48.000 Yeah.

01:48:51.000 Huh.

01:48:53.000 Is he in there talking?

01:48:55.000 Is that on Oprah?

01:48:56.000 I'm sure she must have had a conversation with him.

01:48:59.000 There he goes.

01:49:05.000 Whatever.

01:49:06.000 Seems like he has at least a slight accent.

01:49:08.000 Yeah, but...

01:49:08.000 Actually, play some Steve Perry.

01:49:10.000 Give me a comparison.

01:49:11.000 Don't Stop Believin' by Steve Perry.

01:49:13.000 The original journey.

01:49:14.000 We're gonna rock out, right?

01:49:16.000 I think he's doing something slightly different.

01:49:19.000 He's got his own spin on it.

01:49:21.000 And it sounds amazing for sure.

01:49:23.000 It sounds amazing.

01:49:26.000 But there was something about this dude.

01:49:29.000 Because this dude wasn't very classically beautiful, like a lot of rock stars.

01:49:35.000 You know?

01:49:36.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 Jesus.

01:49:40.000 I mean, that's the fucking guy, dude.

01:49:44.000 Bro.

01:49:45.000 Yeah, that's the guy.

01:49:47.000 We wouldn't know the difference.

01:49:50.000 Oh, boy.

01:49:58.000 Did you ever get to see a lot of big hair bands back in the day when you were in the 80s?

01:50:02.000 Not really, man.

01:50:04.000 Like big stadium bands like UFO or The Who?

01:50:07.000 I saw Jay Giles' band in Boston.

01:50:10.000 Yeah, of course.

01:50:10.000 I saw George Thorogood.

01:50:12.000 Yeah, well, you saw some...

01:50:13.000 Yeah, I saw...

01:50:16.000 Who else did I say?

01:50:20.000 I saw a couple other bands.

01:50:22.000 So the kids that I was hanging around with in high school liked to go to concerts.

01:50:26.000 I was like, what are you talking about?

01:50:28.000 We gotta go see live music?

01:50:30.000 Johnny Winter.

01:50:31.000 We saw Johnny Winter too.

01:50:32.000 Oh wow.

01:50:32.000 This is Alice in Chains with our new singer.

01:50:35.000 Oh wow.

01:50:37.000 Were you a fan of Alice in Chains?

01:50:38.000 I was.

01:50:39.000 So good.

01:50:41.000 I mean look at that.

01:50:44.000 Does this guy sound like him?

01:50:45.000 Or is he doing his own thing?

01:50:47.000 I think so.

01:50:53.000 That's a guitar player.

01:50:55.000 Hotbox.

01:51:03.000 Wow.

01:51:10.000 Goddamn!

01:51:11.000 Yeah.

01:51:11.000 Woo!

01:51:12.000 That's pretty good.

01:51:20.000 Woo!

01:51:20.000 That dude's good.

01:51:21.000 Put on a song with Lane Stay.

01:51:25.000 Yeah, we'll go to that, but what's that dude's name?

01:51:27.000 What is that dude's name?

01:51:29.000 He's great, too.

01:51:31.000 Yeah, he's great, too.

01:51:32.000 He's great, too.

01:51:33.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 Lane was fucking magical, this guy.

01:51:38.000 What is that gentleman's?

01:51:39.000 William Duvall.

01:51:40.000 William Duvall.

01:51:42.000 He's a talented motherfucker.

01:51:43.000 Yeah, look at Lane though, dude.

01:51:45.000 Lane was the fucking man, bro.

01:51:47.000 Oh my god, he was a maniac.

01:51:47.000 He was a maniac.

01:51:48.000 Them bones?

01:51:48.000 I brought these guys on stage a couple times.

01:51:52.000 I mean, fuck, dude.

01:52:02.000 This was my favorite band out of Seattle.

01:52:34.000 Dude, put them bones.

01:52:37.000 Put up them bones.

01:52:38.000 I mean, these guys.

01:52:40.000 Them bones is a fucking jam.

01:52:42.000 It's such a horrific song, too, because you know this dude's talking about fighting heroin.

01:52:50.000 This fucking song rules.

01:53:00.000 So good, dude.

01:53:22.000 There you go.

01:53:30.000 I mean, yeah.

01:53:31.000 The best.

01:53:35.000 If you're listening to this on the treadmill, you will run faster.

01:53:39.000 Put River of Deceit, Mad Season.

01:53:41.000 Do you know who that is?

01:53:43.000 No, I don't.

01:53:44.000 Yes, you do.

01:53:44.000 I do?

01:53:45.000 Yes, you do.

01:53:46.000 So Mad Season was a band that was put together with Lane from Alice in Chains and the guys from Pearl Jam.

01:53:53.000 It was a side project.

01:53:55.000 I did not know about that.

01:53:56.000 Do you know about that?

01:53:57.000 Mad Season?

01:53:58.000 Uh, no.

01:53:59.000 Well, I hosted MTV, so I was...

01:54:00.000 Oh, of course.

01:54:01.000 You were in the loop.

01:54:01.000 I was in the loop on this shit.

01:54:03.000 Check out this fuck.

01:54:04.000 Check out his voice on this.

01:54:06.000 What year are we talking about here?

01:54:09.000 This...

01:54:09.000 So in the band was Pearl Jam.

01:54:13.000 See, those guys were all incestual, all those bands up there, the Seattle scene.

01:54:18.000 This is...

01:54:18.000 I love this song.

01:54:20.000 This is beautiful.

01:54:23.000 Wait till you hear his fucking voice on this.

01:54:26.000 Crank it.

01:54:30.000 Maybe we should dim the lights bro and do some heroin.

01:54:33.000 What do you think?

01:54:35.000 I'm scared.

01:54:56.000 So these are the guys playing from Pearl Jam in the background.

01:55:18.000 So that's the same guy from Alice, Alice in Chains.

01:55:22.000 It's Lane.

01:55:23.000 Yep.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, what a voice he has.

01:55:26.000 So unusual.

01:55:27.000 I mean, yeah.

01:55:30.000 I don't know if Them Bones is about him fighting off heroin, but god damn it seems like it is.

01:55:35.000 You know?

01:55:36.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 Mike Starr also was in the band.

01:55:40.000 He died as well.

01:55:41.000 Him and Lane both died.

01:55:42.000 That heroin culture is a strange culture.

01:55:45.000 The heroin musician culture is very, very strange.

01:55:48.000 Because it's very prevalent amongst elite musicians.

01:55:53.000 You know, in terms of, like, you look at the guys that we all worship, like Hendrix did heroin.

01:55:59.000 Morrison most likely did heroin, right?

01:56:02.000 Yeah.

01:56:03.000 Kurt Cobain did heroin.

01:56:05.000 Lane Staling did heroin.

01:56:06.000 The guy from Blind Melon, the lead singer Blind Melon, he died of heroin, I think, too.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, it's so prevalent, man.

01:56:14.000 It's so prevalent.

01:56:15.000 It's just, like...

01:56:18.000 You know...

01:56:21.000 You gotta wonder, what is it about heroin in music?

01:56:26.000 There's probably a feel to it or something.

01:56:28.000 I think it's a place they want to go.

01:56:30.000 So I think they're writing, but they feel like, yo, if I do this, I can go even to another level.

01:56:36.000 I don't know.

01:56:37.000 I mean, I can ask Jerry, the guitar player.

01:56:41.000 He'd be a great guy to have on your show.

01:56:43.000 Jerry Contrell.

01:56:47.000 Ask him how Lane came up with those lyrics.

01:56:49.000 I don't know.

01:56:51.000 I think there's something to heroin and its effects on people that we're looking at it only in a negative way.

01:56:58.000 I've never done heroin, but I did do a morphine drip once when I had my knee surgery and it was amazing.

01:57:04.000 So I would imagine heroin feels fucking great.

01:57:07.000 But there was a guy that I knew that was a pool hustler.

01:57:10.000 He was like a big-time pool player in Connecticut.

01:57:14.000 In the East Coast, and his name was Water Dog.

01:57:17.000 They'd call him Buffalo Bill or Water Dog.

01:57:19.000 And this guy was a heroin addict, and he would go into the bathroom and he would chew heroin.

01:57:22.000 And after he'd shot heroin, he would sit on the bar stool like this.

01:57:26.000 He would sit in one of those billiards chairs.

01:57:28.000 He would sit there like this.

01:57:30.000 I'm not kidding.

01:57:30.000 For like 15, 20 minutes, just sit there like this.

01:57:33.000 And then when he got out, He couldn't miss a ball.

01:57:35.000 He couldn't miss.

01:57:37.000 So he was gambling for thousands of dollars.

01:57:40.000 There was all these people yelling and screaming.

01:57:41.000 There was so much money involved because this guy who was a local gambler, George the Greek, was playing against him.

01:57:48.000 And there was a lot of money being bet on this.

01:57:50.000 Thousands of dollars.

01:57:51.000 And this fucking guy couldn't miss.

01:57:54.000 He had eyes like a shark.

01:57:55.000 Like, just like his pupils were fully dilated, and he was just firing balls in.

01:58:00.000 Like, he could see where the ball was going with pinpoint precision.

01:58:03.000 It was wild to watch.

01:58:05.000 And I was like, what the fuck is going on with heroin?

01:58:07.000 Like, how do so many musicians create amazing works of art with it?

01:58:12.000 How does so many...

01:58:13.000 Like, Mitch Hedberg loved heroin.

01:58:15.000 You know, he's like one of the funniest guys that's ever lived.

01:58:18.000 Like, what is it about that drug?

01:58:21.000 Maybe I should do heroin.

01:58:23.000 I'm just kidding.

01:58:24.000 No, yeah, I know.

01:58:27.000 I definitely don't want to do it.

01:58:28.000 I'm scared.

01:58:29.000 But I'm wondering, like, what is it about?

01:58:32.000 Are you scared because if you did it, you'd really dig it?

01:58:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:35.000 I don't want to do anything that I would really like that can eventually kill you.

01:58:39.000 Right.

01:58:40.000 You couldn't just, like, oh, I'm just going to try it?

01:58:43.000 No, it doesn't seem like a try thing.

01:58:45.000 Heroin seems like a...

01:58:46.000 It's like...

01:58:47.000 What about coke?

01:58:48.000 Have you ever done coke?

01:58:49.000 No, never done coke.

01:58:50.000 Really?

01:58:50.000 No, never done coke.

01:58:51.000 No one believes that.

01:58:53.000 Which is very insulting, because I tell the truth about everything.

01:58:55.000 But that is the one that I have...

01:58:57.000 I avoided it because when I was a kid, I had a friend whose cousin was selling it, and his life fell apart.

01:59:04.000 I watched his life fell apart.

01:59:06.000 I knew him before that, and then watching him afterwards was like, Fuck, man.

01:59:09.000 Stay away from coke.

01:59:10.000 Do you think if you did it, you would want to do it some more?

01:59:13.000 I'm sure I would love it.

01:59:15.000 Yeah.

01:59:15.000 I'm sure I'd love it.

01:59:16.000 I think everybody loves it.

01:59:18.000 There's certain things that...

01:59:19.000 A man's got to know his limitations.

01:59:24.000 Stay away from things like coke.

01:59:27.000 Also, artistically, I'm not interested in anything that makes me more comfortable.

01:59:31.000 I'm interested in things that make me less comfortable.

01:59:34.000 I'm interested in things that make me less secure.

01:59:36.000 That's why I like weed, because it makes you analyze your behavior more and see the faults in your own stuff, because you're kind of looking at things almost semi-paranoid.

01:59:47.000 When you write, do you smoke a doobie right before?

01:59:51.000 And what's your writing process?

01:59:53.000 Depends on what time it is.

01:59:54.000 If it's at night and I'm leaving a club, I won't smoke anything.

01:59:59.000 I'm already probably a little high, and I'll just sit in front of the computer.

02:00:04.000 I just start writing.

02:00:06.000 Just start writing.

02:00:07.000 Just try to find anything.

02:00:09.000 And all I'm looking for is paragraphs that I can extract.

02:00:12.000 I'm looking for a premise.

02:00:13.000 And some of my best bits have come out of that, just forcing...

02:00:17.000 And then once I force an idea, like get something down, then I start dissecting it and chopping it up.

02:00:24.000 And then I get it to a place where I feel like, this is funny enough, I know where it's going enough that I can talk about it on stage.

02:00:30.000 And when you write, you don't write for the joke, you write for the angle in the story?

02:00:35.000 No, I just write on a subject.

02:00:37.000 So just like...

02:00:38.000 So if I'm gonna write, this is just one way I do it.

02:00:41.000 Another way I do it is I'll come up with something funny and then I write it down on my phone.

02:00:44.000 I do that a lot too.

02:00:45.000 But when I write, it's like say if I'm gonna do something about caffeine, I'll just sit and write about caffeine.

02:00:53.000 Like if there's, it's not really a good subject, but you know, whatever the subject is, they think is funny.

02:00:59.000 I just start writing about it.

02:01:01.000 Look at it from all the different angles.

02:01:03.000 Look at it from a silly angle.

02:01:05.000 Look at it from a hater's angle.

02:01:06.000 Look at it from a lover's angle.

02:01:07.000 Look at it twisted up.

02:01:09.000 Make it so like, even though it's a ridiculous thing to say, maybe this is good for society if this happens.

02:01:14.000 You know, and like, have funny ways to look at it.

02:01:18.000 And then I try it on stage.

02:01:19.000 And then when I try it on stage, I listen to it and I fuck around with it.

02:01:22.000 You listen to it back?

02:01:23.000 Yeah, I'll listen to it back.

02:01:26.000 Or I know what I said, so I'll just go and work on it on the next set and try to find another way to go in it.

02:01:34.000 Maybe I'm missing something.

02:01:36.000 Sometimes the best version of a bit came from just a chance way of saying it a different way one night.

02:01:43.000 And I'm like, oh my god, it's so much better.

02:01:44.000 You fixed it instantly.

02:01:46.000 So do you have, I don't want to say a team of writers, but people back there?

02:01:50.000 You just have the audio?

02:01:51.000 No.

02:01:51.000 It's just me.

02:01:53.000 But you remember it?

02:01:54.000 Well, I record everything.

02:01:55.000 I record everything on my phone.

02:01:56.000 You're recording this conversation?

02:01:58.000 I record this conversation.

02:01:59.000 Fuck.

02:01:59.000 Goddamnit.

02:02:02.000 We're in trouble.

02:02:04.000 So what about observational versus personal?

02:02:10.000 As far as where your head's at regarding that?

02:02:12.000 I think you should think and talk about what you're interested in thinking and talking about.

02:02:18.000 And right now, what I'm interested in thinking and talking about is that this is a very bizarre disconnect between the people in this country and why we tend to join groups and decide that the people in the other group are the bad people and we're the good people and we're going to stop that The bad people and this is gonna be great for everybody.

02:02:39.000 Slow the fuck down, everybody.

02:02:41.000 This is what I'm thinking about today because I've never been more concerned that we could be in a fucking nuclear war in my life than right now.

02:02:50.000 I've never been more concerned about whatever the fuck is going on with Russia and Ukraine spilling over into the United States and causing chaos for everyone on the planet and death and destruction beyond our imagination.

02:03:04.000 The fact that that's on the table is so fucking crazy.

02:03:08.000 And he's not gonna stop this guy, right?

02:03:11.000 Dude, the whole thing is a mess.

02:03:13.000 It's a mess.

02:03:14.000 It's a mess with NATO moving into surrounding countries.

02:03:17.000 It's a mess where, you know, Russia invades Ukraine.

02:03:21.000 It's horrible.

02:03:23.000 So is it just about real estate?

02:03:26.000 It's about many things.

02:03:28.000 I'm not the person to talk to you about this.

02:03:30.000 If you want to listen to Dave Smith talk about it, he's very, very knowledgeable and he can explain in detail how NATO started violating Some sort of an agreement, and they were moving their arms closer to where Russia is.

02:03:47.000 And people had specifically said that they were trying to get Ukraine to join NATO. If Ukraine joined NATO, that would be at the border of Russia, an armed force of the whole world.

02:03:59.000 And it's just tactically, if you're a general, if you're a person who is a president or a king of a country, you're not going to let somebody pull right up on your fucking border like that with a new army attached to it.

02:04:14.000 Like, why?

02:04:15.000 Why do you guys need a new army?

02:04:16.000 What do you plan on doing with that new army?

02:04:18.000 Why are your fucking cannons pulling it at us?

02:04:21.000 You know, it's all bad.

02:04:22.000 It's all bad, dude.

02:04:23.000 And it's all bad because the military industrial complex is a gigantic force of nature and power and money.

02:04:30.000 There's so much going on.

02:04:32.000 And it's a natural thing that happens when people get into power.

02:04:36.000 When people get into power.

02:04:38.000 If they have that kind of money, they're making that kind of money, one of the things that they absolutely are going to do is they're going to try to make as much money as they can with any situation that comes up.

02:04:49.000 Now, if you're in the business of telling jokes, that's great.

02:04:52.000 You're just going to tour and do bigger arenas.

02:04:54.000 Yay, you're at this big place.

02:04:56.000 Yay, you're at this place.

02:04:57.000 More seats, more tickets.

02:04:59.000 But if you're in the war business, You're just getting to the edge of no more civilization.

02:05:06.000 Like, you're pushing things to the edge of what could happen today if someone's fucking crazy, and someone is dying already, and someone is a dictator that literally has the ability to launch nukes.

02:05:18.000 On your last breath, you can fucking doosh!

02:05:21.000 And then it's chaos.

02:05:23.000 And the question doesn't become whether or not he should have done that.

02:05:27.000 Of course he shouldn't have done that.

02:05:29.000 The question of could there have been steps that were made to prevent that from happening in the future?

02:05:34.000 And if those steps could be made, they should probably be made.

02:05:38.000 Because this is where we are.

02:05:40.000 This scares the shit out of me in a way that nothing in my life has ever scared the shit out of me.

02:05:45.000 Yeah, it's the real deal.

02:05:48.000 It's the real deal.

02:05:50.000 Why are we involved in this?

02:05:52.000 Why is anyone involved in this?

02:05:53.000 Why are groups of people involved in this kind of conflict when the groups of people don't benefit?

02:05:59.000 That's what's weird.

02:06:01.000 Well, I think that we as Americans, my feeling is that we see these poor people get killed And we don't want to, like, have our guys, you know, like Afghanistan go in there,

02:06:16.000 but here's some weapons because we feel bad for all your innocent people that are dying, so you guys figure it out.

02:06:22.000 That's a great way to look at it.

02:06:23.000 Right?

02:06:24.000 Yeah, that's a positive way to look at it.

02:06:26.000 Like, if you wanted to positively support Well, that's America.

02:06:33.000 That's what he would say.

02:06:34.000 I think that Putin knew that going into it.

02:06:38.000 He goes, we're going to do this, and I know America is going to give these guys money, and it's going to fuck up their economy.

02:06:45.000 Could be.

02:06:46.000 Because our economy is pretty fucked up right now.

02:06:49.000 Yeah, but I think it would have been fucked up anyway.

02:06:51.000 I think these people are goofy.

02:06:54.000 I think, you know, it's really hard to run a country.

02:06:58.000 And most people aren't very good at it.

02:07:00.000 Just how it goes.

02:07:02.000 There's very few people that are actually good at it.

02:07:04.000 And it's very clear that this country is being run by a bunch of people other than just the president.

02:07:10.000 I mean, I don't know how much say he has, but a lot of other people are involved.

02:07:14.000 And they're not doing such a great job.

02:07:15.000 And they haven't made course corrections very good.

02:07:18.000 There's a lot of mistakes that have been made that didn't have to be made.

02:07:22.000 And that's just how it is.

02:07:24.000 It's just like it's not being run well.

02:07:26.000 And so you have to go, well, who could do it better?

02:07:28.000 Could it be a Republican or it could be a better Democrat?

02:07:30.000 And if it's not a better Democrat, like how are we going to get a better Democrat if you don't let the president debate?

02:07:36.000 So they won't let him debate because Robert Kennedy Jr. and what is that other woman's name?

02:07:41.000 Marianne Williamson.

02:07:43.000 Marianne Williamson, apparently they're both promising candidates for the Democratic Party, but they won't let him debate before the primaries.

02:07:51.000 So it's like, that's not that democratic.

02:07:54.000 Like, that's not how it's supposed to do it.

02:07:55.000 I agree with you.

02:07:58.000 I think both sides are fucked up.

02:08:00.000 I mean, I think both sides are...

02:08:01.000 It's all run by money, man.

02:08:03.000 They let money into politics and people can profit off of decisions.

02:08:08.000 And it's a mess that you can't pull out of.

02:08:10.000 It's one of those things, like, once you've got that in there, it's like, you're not taking the pee out of the ocean, kid.

02:08:16.000 It's in there.

02:08:18.000 You're not fixing that.

02:08:19.000 Yeah.

02:08:19.000 And the news organizations, I mean, I flip back and forth.

02:08:23.000 And when I was growing up, it was just...

02:08:26.000 A news anchor just reading the teleprompter and basically just reading the news.

02:08:31.000 And now both sides have something to say.

02:08:34.000 They're editorializing.

02:08:35.000 Yeah, I never remembered that.

02:08:38.000 I watch it because I'm a comedian and I look at the comedy in it.

02:08:42.000 And I don't take it serious.

02:08:45.000 Well, that's good.

02:08:45.000 Because otherwise it'll freak you out.

02:08:47.000 Yeah, and these news anchors, they roll their eyes, they say shit, and they're both way too far left and way too far right.

02:08:55.000 Well, you're taking a real chance if you're running a corporate network and you have on people that are going to give opinions.

02:09:02.000 Because you're going to have people that just give the hot take of the day and repeat things that everybody says and use phrases that they've heard on TV and the news and know that they have to hit certain beats in order to be accepted.

02:09:15.000 And then you're going to get people that are very arrogant about enforcing their own personal ideologies and their sets and views of things.

02:09:21.000 And they'll argue with people in a very uncomfortable way where you see people with differing opinions now on the internet in particular having thoughtful conversations with each other even though they have different opinions.

02:09:33.000 It doesn't have to...

02:09:34.000 It doesn't have to devolve to this stupid name-calling, yelling game.

02:09:39.000 Why?

02:09:40.000 Why are you calling each other names?

02:09:41.000 Why are you insulting each other?

02:09:42.000 Is this getting anything done?

02:09:44.000 Can you keep it together as a human being?

02:09:46.000 Do you have the character to keep it together?

02:09:48.000 And so the way people communicate in these short clips In these CNN things, when you're watching people argue about stuff, it's like, my God, is this a bad format for this?

02:10:00.000 And my God, are you guys bad at doing it in this format?

02:10:04.000 Because it's like you're just virtue signaling and complaining.

02:10:08.000 It's like the way you're interfacing with people.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, I think it's all fake.

02:10:12.000 I think the second...

02:10:13.000 The cameras are off.

02:10:15.000 I think Tucker Carlson is super liberal, and I think that Don Lemon is super Republican.

02:10:20.000 Imagine.

02:10:20.000 I do.

02:10:20.000 I do really think that.

02:10:22.000 I don't think that.

02:10:23.000 But I do think that Tucker Carlson used to be a deadhead.

02:10:26.000 Yes.

02:10:27.000 Which is amazing.

02:10:28.000 Yeah, he's from California.

02:10:30.000 He's from Santa Monica.

02:10:34.000 I think it's all entertainment.

02:10:35.000 I think these guys are as narcissistic as the most actors that are in Hollywood.

02:10:41.000 I think these news anchors, the second the camera's off, they're looking at their, you know, like anyone else.

02:10:47.000 I think it's entertainment.

02:10:48.000 Dude, they're just human beings.

02:10:50.000 At the end of the day, they're just human beings.

02:10:51.000 And everybody is subject to the same weirdness.

02:10:55.000 All of them.

02:10:56.000 No matter what the profession is.

02:10:58.000 You know, it's like...

02:11:01.000 The job of being a news anchor is so strange.

02:11:05.000 You're distributing the news.

02:11:07.000 Hi, I'm Pauly Shore with the news.

02:11:11.000 Today, Putin learned that Ukraine said...

02:11:14.000 And then you know that you don't know jack shit.

02:11:20.000 And you're just reading off a teleprompter.

02:11:22.000 And everybody comes to you and they want to take a picture with you at the restaurant.

02:11:25.000 Hey, it's Pauly from the news.

02:11:28.000 It's a fucking weird gig, man.

02:11:30.000 You're a reader of the news.

02:11:33.000 And you have to do it in a fake way.

02:11:35.000 There's a way to talk, Pauly.

02:11:37.000 A way that settles people and calms their fears.

02:11:41.000 That's the way we prefer to talk here on K106. You know who I loved was Brian Williams.

02:11:49.000 Remember him on MSN? Loved him.

02:11:51.000 Yeah, he was good at that voice.

02:11:52.000 I thought he was great.

02:11:53.000 He was very good at that voice.

02:11:55.000 He was great.

02:11:55.000 I love Ted Koppel.

02:11:57.000 He got in trouble because he lied about Iraq.

02:11:59.000 Yeah.

02:12:00.000 He lied about getting shot at.

02:12:01.000 Yeah, but then that kind of went away.

02:12:04.000 A little bit?

02:12:05.000 No, really.

02:12:06.000 Not the people that got shot at.

02:12:07.000 Oh, okay.

02:12:08.000 Yeah, they're not really interested in hearing from you anymore.

02:12:11.000 If you can just, like, make up a story.

02:12:13.000 But Hillary Clinton did that too, right?

02:12:15.000 Didn't she, like, make up some...

02:12:16.000 Or there was a dispute in her story?

02:12:20.000 I just wish there wasn't a Fox and a CNN. I wish there was just a said news and just read what was on the news and it was the people to decide what they think as opposed to giving opinions.

02:12:32.000 That's my thought.

02:12:33.000 That's how it was when I was a kid.

02:12:35.000 The thing is, you don't really know these people very well.

02:12:39.000 So even when they're giving their opinions, you don't know them very well.

02:12:42.000 You don't really know them.

02:12:43.000 You don't really hear them.

02:12:45.000 But they should probably have a disclaimer and say, like, yo, I don't know shit.

02:12:49.000 I'm just reading what it tells me to read, so please don't get mad at me.

02:12:53.000 My job is to read what's on there.

02:12:55.000 Imagine.

02:12:56.000 I want you to imagine this.

02:12:58.000 Imagine if all of your interactions for the rest of your life would be like you sitting on the couch of a talk show.

02:13:06.000 You would go crazy.

02:13:08.000 You would go fucking crazy.

02:13:12.000 Imagine if that's how you communicate for the rest of your life or if you only talk to people that talk to you like a news anchor.

02:13:20.000 Imagine that.

02:13:21.000 I want you to imagine if the only way they talked, they talked like a politician giving a speech.

02:13:27.000 Pauly, what we can do for this country is different than what anybody could do for any other country.

02:13:32.000 And I'm here to tell you that with my commitment, you'd be like, dude, fucking relax.

02:13:37.000 Slow the fuck down.

02:13:38.000 Speak normal.

02:13:39.000 What are you doing?

02:13:40.000 Imagine if that's how people talked forever.

02:13:43.000 You would go mad.

02:13:44.000 You would literally go insane.

02:13:46.000 We allow a certain kind of fake kind of thing, a top 40 DJ voice.

02:13:55.000 Imagine if they only talked in top 40 DJ voices.

02:13:58.000 Pauly Shore walking into the room, ladies and gentlemen.

02:14:01.000 Pauly Shore can be seen at the blah blah blah, at the blah blah blah.

02:14:05.000 Tickets available now!

02:14:08.000 Yeah.

02:14:09.000 Yeah.

02:14:10.000 That's weird.

02:14:11.000 And then we go back to what I said originally, which is the phones.

02:14:16.000 I always said that before the internet, if you were a crazy person, back in the day, you would just be crazy and sit in the corner.

02:14:25.000 Now, if you're a crazy person, you can actually be crazy.

02:14:29.000 And I think that has a lot to do with it, too.

02:14:32.000 Yeah.

02:14:33.000 People get to have their opinion.

02:14:35.000 When I was growing up, I didn't know everyone wanted to be famous.

02:14:39.000 I didn't.

02:14:41.000 I thought it was just New York and LA. I didn't know people in Iowa would be like, yo, check out my cornfields, dawg.

02:14:48.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:49.000 Yo, check out my steak, dude.

02:14:51.000 Have you seen this guy who only gets hit in the balls?

02:14:54.000 I have not.

02:14:55.000 Have I seen you that guy, Jamie?

02:14:57.000 Which one?

02:14:57.000 The big fat guy that's missing teeth?

02:15:00.000 That's not a new thing.

02:15:01.000 Yeah, what's his name?

02:15:02.000 I don't know.

02:15:03.000 I don't know who you're talking about.

02:15:03.000 Oh, goddammit.

02:15:04.000 I know I have it saved.

02:15:05.000 But this dude...

02:15:07.000 Let me figure out who I sent it to because I sent it to someone recently.

02:15:10.000 Send it to me.

02:15:10.000 This dude just keeps getting smashed in the balls.

02:15:13.000 And he's probably got a million followers, right?

02:15:17.000 People love it.

02:15:18.000 He probably does.

02:15:20.000 Goddammit.

02:15:21.000 I'm gonna have to find it.

02:15:23.000 I definitely sent it to quite a few friends, but I don't know where it is.

02:15:28.000 This dude just gets hammered in the balls all the time.

02:15:31.000 He's a big fat guy with tattoos on his face.

02:15:34.000 So that's my point, though.

02:15:36.000 Have you seen him?

02:15:36.000 We played it before on here.

02:15:37.000 But that's my point, right?

02:15:38.000 What's the homie's name?

02:15:39.000 I have to find it.

02:15:40.000 He's crazy.

02:15:41.000 He's like missing his front teeth and he just gets kicked in the balls.

02:15:44.000 And he's probably making bank.

02:15:45.000 Probably driving a Ferrari.

02:15:47.000 Yeah, I didn't know that.

02:15:49.000 Bro, he gets hit in the ball so hard.

02:15:51.000 Yeah.

02:15:51.000 So hard.

02:15:52.000 You're like, you're gonna die.

02:15:54.000 You're gonna die from your- Who hits him, just random people?

02:15:56.000 Well, I'll show you.

02:15:57.000 Multiple different kinds of people.

02:15:58.000 Oh, God.

02:15:58.000 They hit him in the balls with a hockey puck.

02:16:00.000 Watch this.

02:16:01.000 This dude- So he's Canadian, obviously, right?

02:16:03.000 And this dude's a serious hockey player, too.

02:16:05.000 Like, he whips it in there.

02:16:06.000 Oh, my God.

02:16:08.000 He shot it right in.

02:16:11.000 Right in on the sack.

02:16:13.000 Bro.

02:16:14.000 Oh, wow.

02:16:15.000 This was four years ago.

02:16:16.000 Okay, so he's been getting kicked in the balls for decades.

02:16:19.000 So his balls look like cauliflower ears.

02:16:21.000 Hold my fries.

02:16:22.000 Is that a Canadian thing like hold my beer?

02:16:24.000 Mmm.

02:16:25.000 I don't know.

02:16:26.000 Yeah, but this is...

02:16:26.000 Hold my fries.

02:16:29.000 Maybe it's all just like grabbing your dick.

02:16:31.000 Yeah, this is what people want to see, right?

02:16:34.000 There's a lot more brutal ones than that.

02:16:36.000 Like him getting, what did he get?

02:16:38.000 I think he got a golf ball.

02:16:40.000 I think it's for fat guys.

02:16:41.000 Hold my fries, it's for fat guys.

02:16:42.000 Oh, okay.

02:16:45.000 I think he got a golf ball whacked into his balls and a bunch of other stuff too.

02:16:49.000 But yeah, it's...

02:16:50.000 Yeah, and there you go.

02:16:52.000 You can make it.

02:16:53.000 That's my point.

02:16:54.000 You're gonna make it on your own.

02:16:58.000 But yeah, it's some, you know...

02:17:01.000 Yeah, you could do it a lot of different ways now.

02:17:04.000 And I think that's the big change.

02:17:05.000 You could do it a lot of different ways.

02:17:07.000 And there's people that become famous through TikTok and Instagram and all these different things and YouTube and podcasts and, you know, there's always going to be movies because movies are fun.

02:17:18.000 They're entertaining.

02:17:19.000 There's always going to be television shows because people like to watch television.

02:17:22.000 It's just they have to adjust to a different time.

02:17:25.000 But if you don't want to do that anymore as a comic, you don't have to do that anymore.

02:17:30.000 Because it used to be that you had to do that if you wanted to do comedy because If you didn't get a sitcom, people wouldn't come to see you in the clubs because they wouldn't know who you are.

02:17:38.000 Someone had to find out who you were.

02:17:40.000 You had to either get a special on HBO, or you'd have to do The Tonight Show with Johnny back in the day.

02:17:46.000 There had to be some way.

02:17:47.000 What do you think?

02:17:48.000 I thought what Ari did was great.

02:17:51.000 His last special?

02:17:51.000 That was amazing.

02:17:52.000 Yeah, but I love how Ari just says, fuck it.

02:17:56.000 You know what I mean?

02:17:56.000 He says, I'm going to do something completely different.

02:17:59.000 And I thought that just...

02:18:00.000 And he thought about it for a long time, too.

02:18:02.000 He worked on that set for a long-ass time.

02:18:04.000 Yeah, but I just love that he said, fuck everyone, I'm just going to do it myself.

02:18:08.000 And he paved the way.

02:18:10.000 I mean, Big Jay Oakerson did it, right?

02:18:12.000 A lot of people have done that.

02:18:13.000 Well, Shane Gillis did it before him.

02:18:15.000 And a lot of his success came out of that as well.

02:18:18.000 And I think, you know, the internet is a great thing for guys like me especially.

02:18:24.000 Because, you know, if I'm not getting a movie offer, if I'm not getting a TV offer, and I'm going on stage, I'm touring, I still want to do other shit.

02:18:31.000 And so, for instance, I can do a YouTube, I could do Instagram, do all my stupid videos.

02:18:36.000 So I think it's a good thing.

02:18:38.000 Oh, for sure.

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:39.000 No, it's definitely a good thing.

02:18:40.000 It's definitely a good thing.

02:18:41.000 And it's a good thing for several reasons.

02:18:42.000 It's a good thing to get your stuff out there, but it's also a good thing to stay creative.

02:18:48.000 Because in the old days, if you come up with an idea, you've got to develop it, and it takes a long time.

02:18:54.000 Now you come up with an idea, you can put it out the next day.

02:18:57.000 And I love that.

02:18:57.000 That's what's great about YouTube.

02:18:59.000 So I could put my stuff right out on YouTube.

02:19:01.000 I could do videos on there.

02:19:03.000 And I think it's cool.

02:19:04.000 It's huge.

02:19:06.000 And it's also great that comics can just be free.

02:19:10.000 And they're not attached to this thing that can't accept them if they have jokes about this or that or anything or if they're controversial or they swear too much.

02:19:19.000 It doesn't matter anymore.

02:19:20.000 Like now with podcasts or a completely new industry, that is as big as television is, if not bigger.

02:19:27.000 So a bad thing's a good thing.

02:19:28.000 Yeah, it's not even a bad thing.

02:19:30.000 It's just a changing thing.

02:19:31.000 And you give people access like this to something that's, you know...

02:19:35.000 Where you can pause it anytime you want, watch it whenever you want.

02:19:38.000 Like a regular talk show, it's clunky.

02:19:41.000 It's clunky.

02:19:42.000 It doesn't work that good.

02:19:43.000 Whereas if you were, you know, you're imagining where it's going to go, it's probably going to go to some completely unexpected place next.

02:19:52.000 Nobody saw a podcast coming, right?

02:19:55.000 Nobody thought this was ever going to be a big thing.

02:19:56.000 So there's probably something like that that's going to be coming next.

02:20:01.000 And you'd have to predict it based on...

02:20:03.000 You'd have to analyze lifestyle things and you'd have to figure out what new kind of technology would interface with people.

02:20:15.000 How would people enjoy something in a new way?

02:20:18.000 I don't know what the answer to that is.

02:20:19.000 But whether it's virtual reality, augmented reality, but when that comes along...

02:20:24.000 It's also when you go to a nightclub and you see a...

02:20:28.000 Back in the day, when you go to a nightclub, people would be up dancing.

02:20:33.000 And now you go to a nightclub, people are staring at their phones.

02:20:35.000 So if you want to talk to a girl, you can't really.

02:20:38.000 Because they're staring at their phone.

02:20:40.000 That's why I think it'd be cool to have some sort of, you know, where you kind of can hijack and go into someone's phone if you're like in a, like imagine.

02:20:50.000 Like you can airdrop them a picture and say you airdrop them an invitation to FaceTime you.

02:20:54.000 Buy them a drink.

02:20:54.000 Yeah, buy him a drink.

02:20:55.000 Can you do that?

02:20:56.000 I wonder if you can airdrop a FaceTime request.

02:21:01.000 That would be fun.

02:21:02.000 That would be cool.

02:21:03.000 Imagine some babe is like, you want to talk to the babe, but she's staring at her phone, and you want to buy her a drink, and you just airdrop your video, and then you're like, yo, babe, I'm right here.

02:21:17.000 On second thought, that's a terrible idea.

02:21:19.000 That's a terrible idea.

02:21:20.000 I just thought about that because I'm a guy.

02:21:22.000 Like, if I was a girl, that would be a terrible idea.

02:21:24.000 You'd just be getting dicks airdropped, too, from all over the bar.

02:21:27.000 It's a scenario where it would be good, but everyone has to be on the same page.

02:21:30.000 That's a very good way of putting it, Jamie.

02:21:33.000 And then there's the dating apps.

02:21:35.000 Whatever the fuck is next after phones is going to make phones look like a typewriter.

02:21:41.000 Yes, right?

02:21:41.000 Whatever's next is going to be some mind-changing shit.

02:21:45.000 Like literal mind-changing.

02:21:47.000 Like some sort of a neural interface.

02:21:50.000 Something real next level.

02:21:52.000 Where it's going to just...

02:21:53.000 I mean, they were talking about...

02:21:56.000 Having a portal to the internet that's connected to your brain all the time.

02:22:01.000 What does that look like?

02:22:02.000 What does that seem like?

02:22:02.000 Well, you can put in something in here and go open the door like that now.

02:22:07.000 Yeah?

02:22:08.000 Yeah.

02:22:09.000 On your fingers?

02:22:10.000 No, I have a guy I know that goes to his office and he puts some chip in there and he goes like this and the door opens.

02:22:16.000 Oh, okay.

02:22:17.000 Yeah, so he has like a key fob.

02:22:19.000 Yeah, we have key fobs like that that do that.

02:22:22.000 Yeah, it's inside your hand, right?

02:22:23.000 Yeah.

02:22:24.000 Well, it doesn't have to be.

02:22:25.000 Are you talking about like an implant?

02:22:27.000 Yeah.

02:22:27.000 Because I've seen that.

02:22:28.000 Oh, you're talking about an implant.

02:22:29.000 I thought you meant a ring.

02:22:31.000 No, like an actual inside.

02:22:33.000 They make you wear a chip ring.

02:22:35.000 With the logo of the company on it.

02:22:37.000 Keep your ring on 24-7, even when you shower.

02:22:40.000 If your ring breaks, we'll get you a new one.

02:22:42.000 But you are a proud employee of Walmart.

02:22:45.000 You will keep that Walmart ring.

02:22:48.000 You don't get to do it with dogs?

02:22:50.000 Don't you do that with a dog?

02:22:52.000 Are you calling people dogs that work at Walmart?

02:22:54.000 You son of a bitch.

02:22:55.000 Did you hear what he said?

02:22:56.000 Your dog, I have a chip in my dog, so if my dog gets lost.

02:23:00.000 Yes, or if your dog gets, it's actually for your dog gets picked up by the pound.

02:23:03.000 Oh, okay.

02:23:04.000 So the pound can scan it, and they can get your data.

02:23:06.000 Kind of like a head of lettuce?

02:23:08.000 Yeah.

02:23:09.000 And if you have a chip in there, and then they go, okay, Paulie, we found your dog, which is nice.

02:23:14.000 That's nice.

02:23:15.000 That's very cool.

02:23:16.000 Yeah.

02:23:16.000 It's a wild-ass time.

02:23:18.000 Yeah, it's going to get wilder.

02:23:20.000 This Michio Kaku interview that I did yesterday, we were talking about quantum computing and what that means and what they're going to be able to do as they get better and better and better.

02:23:29.000 It's like, holy shit.

02:23:32.000 He's like, there's a giant revolution that's going to change the world, and it's about to happen.

02:23:36.000 What did he say?

02:23:37.000 Well, there's a competition right now between Microsoft and IBM and Google and China, and they're all trying to be the first to develop a real quantum computer.

02:23:49.000 They already have a couple that they've devised, but they're only...

02:23:54.000 Designed to do very specific tasks.

02:23:56.000 They don't have like an artificial general intelligence quantum computer yet.

02:24:00.000 But when they do...

02:24:01.000 So what's that going to be?

02:24:03.000 Whoever figures it out first.

02:24:05.000 There's a mad race right now between these giant corporations and between the country of China.

02:24:12.000 And they're in the middle of this battle to see who wins this.

02:24:15.000 And whoever wins this likely has technological superiority over the entire world.

02:24:21.000 Because these things will be able to crack any kind of code that anybody has, any encryption.

02:24:26.000 It'll be able to crack everything.

02:24:28.000 So what's it look like?

02:24:29.000 Or what is this guy's vision of what he thinks it's going to look like?

02:24:33.000 Well, what it looks like now is like some super fucking science fiction-y space shit.

02:24:38.000 It looks like all these crazy golden coils that are wrapped around this one smaller device.

02:24:46.000 And the smaller device is this computer, is this quantum computer.

02:24:50.000 All that other stuff is just the cooling mechanism for the computer.

02:24:54.000 See, can you pull up an image of it?

02:24:57.000 Whatever Michio Kaku put on yesterday?

02:25:01.000 It's the craziest shit.

02:25:02.000 Because you look at it and you go, oh my god, that looks like a science fiction movie.

02:25:06.000 Look at that thing.

02:25:07.000 Or a brewery in Iowa.

02:25:13.000 Welcome to the golden tap!

02:25:16.000 Right, exactly.

02:25:16.000 Yeah.

02:25:17.000 Wow.

02:25:17.000 Look at that thing though.

02:25:18.000 All that stuff on the top is all cooling and that small box at the bottom with that blue light on it, that's the computer.

02:25:25.000 So all that other stuff is...

02:25:28.000 And that's your friend?

02:25:29.000 No, no, that's not my friend.

02:25:30.000 That's the CEO of Google.

02:25:31.000 Oh.

02:25:33.000 Michio Kaku is the guy who was the guest yesterday.

02:25:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:25:38.000 But that guy is one of the people that's involved.

02:25:41.000 That's the CEO of Google.

02:25:42.000 They're doing their own quantum computer and IBM is, I think, as well.

02:25:47.000 So this is to basically hack into everything?

02:25:50.000 What that is is going to develop a computer, what they're eventually going to be, whatever version of it and whatever it looks like when they get it done.

02:25:58.000 It's going to be a computer that can operate like a million times or more powerful than any computer that's ever existed.

02:26:06.000 Wow.

02:26:08.000 I think that's a correct statement.

02:26:10.000 Is that right?

02:26:11.000 It's not incorrect, but I do want to correct you on one tiny thing.

02:26:15.000 On the picture here, what you're seeing there, that's like a router behind the machine.

02:26:19.000 Oh, so that's not the computer at the bottom?

02:26:22.000 Yeah, the little box that he was trying to explain, it's more like this, and it's just covered up by everything.

02:26:27.000 Oh, okay.

02:26:28.000 I see, I see, I see.

02:26:30.000 So it's even smaller.

02:26:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:26:32.000 It's more like a microchip, but a little bit bigger than a microchip, obviously.

02:26:35.000 Really?

02:26:36.000 The computer itself is a little bit bigger than a microchip?

02:26:40.000 It's bigger than a microchip, but like a CPU compared to a PC tower.

02:26:45.000 It's kind of like that.

02:26:46.000 This is like the tower cooling device for more of a CPU that's probably like...

02:26:50.000 So how big is the actual chip?

02:26:52.000 I'll try to find that out.

02:26:54.000 Hmm.

02:26:55.000 Wild.

02:26:56.000 So this is a little chip like this, Joe?

02:26:58.000 Oh my god, look at this.

02:26:59.000 It's not even that big.

02:27:00.000 Jesus.

02:27:01.000 That's the computer, bro.

02:27:03.000 What the fuck?

02:27:04.000 That's alien.

02:27:05.000 It fits into, like, it's going to fit into your computer?

02:27:09.000 No, that is going to be the computer.

02:27:12.000 Wow.

02:27:13.000 That's what's crazy about us.

02:27:13.000 And where do you stick it?

02:27:14.000 All the other stuff.

02:27:16.000 Instead of doing things with ones and zeros, I'm going to fuck this up, I'm sure.

02:27:22.000 They're computing with atoms, and they're doing their computation in atoms, and these computations are happening in multiple universes simultaneously.

02:27:37.000 I'm gone, right?

02:27:38.000 You say that, I'm like, I don't know what you're saying.

02:27:40.000 I'm repeating his words.

02:27:42.000 It's too confusing.

02:27:43.000 He's saying that they're happy.

02:27:44.000 So that's the size of it.

02:27:45.000 Look at that.

02:27:46.000 Tell me if they found that.

02:27:48.000 And you said, we've found a computer that is one million times stronger than anything that exists here on Earth.

02:27:55.000 This must be from another planet.

02:27:57.000 Look at that guy holding that up in his hand.

02:27:59.000 Go back to that image of him holding it.

02:28:01.000 If he said that was recovered from a crashed UFO in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, this is the answer to all of our worries.

02:28:09.000 If we can get this attached to the proper cooling, it will be one million times more powerful than any PC that's ever existed!

02:28:17.000 That's a scene in The Watchmen or something, right?

02:28:19.000 I picture them doing the same thing but finding an iPhone that doesn't have power.

02:28:23.000 You're like, if we could just turn this on, we don't even know what that means.

02:28:27.000 Yeah, but then cell phone towers are out and there's no 5G anymore.

02:28:30.000 A device like that, I don't mean specifically.

02:28:32.000 Right.

02:28:33.000 Imagine if they get past this whole cell phone thing and develop something that uses the Earth as a method of transmitting messages back and forth.

02:28:43.000 The energy of the Earth.

02:28:44.000 Like solar or something?

02:28:44.000 I don't know, like sending something through the air.

02:28:48.000 That is powered by that very air.

02:28:51.000 Instead of using a 5G signal, you use the signal of the Earth itself.

02:28:56.000 Imagine if that becomes a thing.

02:28:58.000 Imagine if there's a way that you can, instead of sending things from tower to tower, which is insanely impressive, what if you were literally able to connect Just human beings,

02:29:14.000 device, device with no network.

02:29:16.000 They're so powerful that just like you can airdrop someone something on a plane, you know, even if there's no Wi-Fi or nothing, imagine if your phone just connects to other phones.

02:29:26.000 It just does it some other way.

02:29:29.000 It doesn't need a 5G signal.

02:29:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:31.000 That doesn't seem...

02:29:32.000 It's so crazy that they could do it already.

02:29:34.000 It's so crazy that they can send a video through the air and you can get it a second later.

02:29:39.000 That's nuts!

02:29:40.000 Well, you remember 20 years ago when you tried to download videos.

02:29:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:43.000 It took a long time.

02:29:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:29:46.000 It took forever.

02:29:46.000 Even pictures.

02:29:47.000 It was in a picture.

02:29:48.000 Yeah.

02:29:49.000 Yeah.

02:29:50.000 It was interesting because when Napster hit, you're trading music, people are sharing music and all that, and then you're like, well, people in the movie and TV business are like, hey, well, at least that's not going to happen to us, and then shortly after that,

02:30:06.000 people are sending copies of movies.

02:30:10.000 Remember when Spider-Man came out or something, and they're like, Oh, we got a copy and we're sending it all over the internet.

02:30:17.000 Yeah.

02:30:18.000 I don't know if it was Spider-Man, but you know what I mean?

02:30:21.000 Yeah, that happens all the time in movies that get leaked.

02:30:23.000 Yeah, but when it first started to happen.

02:30:26.000 Well, when it first really started fucking people up was with Napster.

02:30:29.000 That freaked people out.

02:30:30.000 You could download entire albums for free.

02:30:32.000 And everybody's like, wait, what's going on?

02:30:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:30:36.000 And that, boy, you want to talk about a disruptive force in industry.

02:30:43.000 That changed everything.

02:30:44.000 Yeah, that was a big deal.

02:30:46.000 You can't sell records anymore.

02:30:48.000 I had Paul Stanley on the podcast, and he's very bitter about it.

02:30:52.000 He doesn't like it at all.

02:30:54.000 He was saying it's stealing.

02:30:56.000 I'm like...

02:30:57.000 Yeah.

02:31:01.000 I mean stealing is I steal a record but the digital recording like that's like we used to always record off the radio you remember that when you were a kid you would record on cassettes off the radio yeah but that's okay because it doesn't sound that good well yeah nobody tried to stop that and there was no distribution method would you stop a an ai sam kinnison album from being made right i would not i would not You know what?

02:31:25.000 It's like that Big E Tupac thing that we played yesterday, which is hilarious.

02:31:28.000 We played Michio Kaku.

02:31:30.000 We played Notorious B.I.G. doing Nas lyrics.

02:31:34.000 Okay.

02:31:35.000 And he was, you could tell, his eyes glazed over.

02:31:38.000 Just like me talking to him about quantum physics.

02:31:41.000 I feel like, though, if a Sam Kennison won, you guys know what that was like.

02:31:45.000 You would have to write material that's worthy.

02:31:50.000 That's my point.

02:31:51.000 You guys would listen to it and be like, this kind of sucks, but you could play it for a kid and be like, I love this.

02:31:55.000 This is awesome.

02:31:57.000 You guys don't know what it was like, though.

02:31:59.000 To rewrite Kinnison, you'd have to rewrite Kinnison in the context of when he was hot in the 80s.

02:32:04.000 You'd have to write more material from back then.

02:32:08.000 Because if you wanted to rewrite Kinnison, he doesn't have cultural references.

02:32:10.000 How would he know?

02:32:12.000 We know he's dead.

02:32:13.000 You train ChadGPT with some new TikTok references, some new comedy, and then all of a sudden you go like, and I'll tell this in the voice of Sam Kinnison.

02:32:21.000 Not only that, tell if Sam Kinison was alive today in the form of Sam Kinison from 86. Yeah, that's it.

02:32:28.000 It could happen and someone will do it now that we've just put it out there.

02:32:31.000 Yeah, that's a very good point.

02:32:34.000 It's almost like if I wanted to see Hendrix play.

02:32:37.000 If I wanted to go to a VR... Version of a Hendrix concert.

02:32:42.000 I would want to be in some fucking 1967 concert where the floor's muddy and there's dirty hippies around and he's playing live in some club.

02:32:58.000 That's where I want to be.

02:32:59.000 What's it called?

02:33:02.000 Holograms?

02:33:03.000 Holograms.

02:33:04.000 Holograms.

02:33:04.000 Did that like fizz out?

02:33:06.000 Yeah, I fizzed out.

02:33:08.000 What about NFTs?

02:33:09.000 Did that phase out too?

02:33:10.000 No, those are hot again.

02:33:12.000 In fact, I'm coming out with my own collection.

02:33:14.000 The hologram phased out with Tupac.

02:33:17.000 Tupac was too jacked.

02:33:18.000 People got upset.

02:33:20.000 But it's also weird.

02:33:21.000 Do you feel weird?

02:33:22.000 I don't know if you feel weird, but I feel weird about it.

02:33:25.000 When you go to a concert, not obviously your concert, but a normal concert, like a music concert, everyone is filming the act.

02:33:35.000 Everyone is going like it's normal.

02:33:37.000 And back when I was growing up, I saw the Clash open for the Rolling Stones at the...

02:33:45.000 It was at the Coliseum.

02:33:47.000 And I did a bad thing because I was obsessed with the Rolling Stones.

02:33:51.000 I took my little tape recorder and I actually recorded, you know, I pirated it or whatever it's called where you tape it.

02:33:57.000 And I drove to school on my bike and I listened to it and I came in my pants.

02:34:02.000 Because I was obsessed with, you know, Mick Jagger back in the 80s.

02:34:05.000 You know, it was just like, fuck.

02:34:07.000 Isn't it crazy when you look at him in the 60s?

02:34:09.000 Yeah.

02:34:09.000 But I was just like, this is amazing.

02:34:12.000 But, you know, people do that now.

02:34:14.000 Like, it's no big deal.

02:34:14.000 And the artists just let it happen.

02:34:17.000 Well, I don't think there's anything they can do about it, Paul.

02:34:20.000 I know.

02:34:20.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

02:34:22.000 It's information.

02:34:23.000 But you guys did something about it.

02:34:25.000 I know Bruno Mars puts it in the bag.

02:34:28.000 Yeah, that's good.

02:34:29.000 But what I'm saying is just like, just with things that are on the internet.

02:34:33.000 If you have some sort of recording on the internet or...

02:34:37.000 It's like this world is just too strange when it comes to digital, what?

02:34:41.000 Yeah, he recorded his own concert, right?

02:34:44.000 No, so this story happened recently.

02:34:46.000 Coachella happened over the weekend, or like the last two weekends.

02:34:49.000 This artist named Frank Ocean, his set was not streamed live on YouTube like most of the other ones were.

02:34:55.000 But a fan found online like 450 videos of his concert and spent a lot of time editing them together and made the entire show available, like the hour and 20-minute set available through fan-found footage online.

02:35:10.000 And now he's being sued immediately by Coachella for saying, like, you can't do this.

02:35:15.000 But he wasn't even there.

02:35:17.000 So how do they sue him?

02:35:18.000 How can they sue him?

02:35:20.000 It's a little bit of an issue.

02:35:22.000 He went into saying, I think when he found it, right away, they interviewed him.

02:35:26.000 He said, I'm going to leave it up.

02:35:27.000 And then they contacted him again.

02:35:28.000 And he's like, okay, actually, I'll take it down off my website.

02:35:31.000 I think he had it available on Google Drive and a few other places for people to download.

02:35:35.000 But now it's just out there.

02:35:36.000 And he's like, no people have it.

02:35:38.000 You're never going to stop this from being seen.

02:35:40.000 It exists.

02:35:41.000 Why couldn't he put it out there?

02:35:44.000 Because he was only at a festival.

02:35:45.000 There is, like, when you buy that ticket, you know, you're buying, it's a contract.

02:35:50.000 Right.

02:35:50.000 For the people that were there, they were breaking that contract by filming it and putting it online.

02:35:55.000 Oh my god, but everybody's doing that.

02:35:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:35:58.000 And that's where it becomes a very...

02:35:59.000 Everybody's taking photographs and everybody's filming.

02:36:01.000 Everybody is.

02:36:01.000 Well, didn't the Beastie Boys do that a long time ago?

02:36:04.000 I think they were the first ones.

02:36:05.000 They did it on purpose, though.

02:36:06.000 Yeah, that was like...

02:36:07.000 Yeah, that was kind of cool.

02:36:09.000 Yeah, I know.

02:36:10.000 This is fucking dope.

02:36:11.000 What the fans did for that?

02:36:11.000 It sounds brilliant.

02:36:12.000 And I bet it's dope.

02:36:13.000 But how is Coachella losing anything on that?

02:36:16.000 Why would they want to sue someone for that?

02:36:18.000 I don't understand.

02:36:19.000 They know people have phones, and they know they're recording them.

02:36:22.000 Not only that, if that's the source of it, it's just fan-created videos and someone creatively edited them together.

02:36:28.000 It's probably a dope video, too.

02:36:29.000 He downloaded 450 videos and he used like 150 of them to make the video.

02:36:33.000 That guy's a hero!

02:36:34.000 Yeah, that's great.

02:36:35.000 He's gonna get probably hired to do other stuff now.

02:36:37.000 I want him to shoot at the mothership, bro.

02:36:39.000 We have it set up for filming.

02:36:42.000 You could film there.

02:36:42.000 It's great.

02:36:43.000 Yeah, that was part of the thing.

02:36:45.000 It's great.

02:36:45.000 Putting it together.

02:36:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:36:47.000 That's one of the reasons why I wanted to change the curtain to the other curtain.

02:36:51.000 I'm like, that curtain looks better.

02:36:53.000 Yeah, no, I remember you said that.

02:36:54.000 I think that's cool.

02:36:56.000 I'm excited to have you there, dude.

02:36:59.000 When are you hitting the road soon?

02:37:01.000 Do you got any dates to plug?

02:37:03.000 I will never stop touring.

02:37:07.000 Beautiful.

02:37:07.000 Until I'm George Burns' age.

02:37:09.000 I'll always do stand-up, so I'm just always on the road.

02:37:12.000 Beautiful.

02:37:12.000 Yeah, I just love it.

02:37:14.000 Social media?

02:37:15.000 Yeah, just polyshore.com.

02:37:19.000 Austin, Texas, Wednesday, May 3rd, Comedy Mothership.

02:37:22.000 Woo!

02:37:23.000 Yeah, we sold that out.

02:37:24.000 That was cool.

02:37:25.000 Beautiful.

02:37:25.000 Yeah.

02:37:26.000 So, I'm here.

02:37:26.000 I'd like to come here more often.

02:37:28.000 Come here more often.

02:37:29.000 For sure, for sure.

02:37:30.000 You should.

02:37:31.000 And all these gigs are up.

02:37:32.000 Portland, Helium, that's a great fucking club.

02:37:35.000 Fucked up city, but that's a great club.

02:37:37.000 Las Vegas, Hartford, Connecticut, Albany, New York.

02:37:42.000 Yeah, and I also have this.

02:37:44.000 This is my new album.

02:37:45.000 This is cool.

02:37:47.000 It's called Pauly Shore and the Crusties.

02:37:48.000 Do you want to put up my YouTube for a second?

02:37:52.000 I have an album.

02:37:53.000 Yeah, we're releasing this on my website.

02:37:55.000 What kind of music is this?

02:37:56.000 It's just all covers.

02:37:57.000 It's great.

02:37:58.000 Turn it around.

02:37:58.000 Look at the covers.

02:38:00.000 Wow.

02:38:01.000 Yeah.

02:38:02.000 Okay, let's listen to number two, Whole Lotta Love.

02:38:05.000 Is that available?

02:38:06.000 What's available on YouTube?

02:38:07.000 I had Rate Me.

02:38:08.000 What do you have?

02:38:09.000 Rate Me.

02:38:09.000 Okay, let's go with that.

02:38:11.000 Lookit, this is my band.

02:38:12.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

02:38:14.000 So this is called Pauly Shore and the Crusties.

02:38:16.000 Oh my god, where are you guys?

02:38:17.000 In my garage in Vegas.

02:38:19.000 That's hilarious.

02:38:23.000 So your neighbors are out there watching you perform?

02:38:27.000 Do you have a crowd in the street?

02:38:32.000 People drive by, but most people, they keep moving.

02:38:35.000 This is the house set next door to Nicolas Cage.

02:38:38.000 Boy, I bet Nicolas Cage is super thrilled about you bringing all the attention to his neighborhood.

02:38:44.000 So we call him Little Baby Larry David.

02:38:48.000 Yeah, we might rape you, so go over there.

02:38:50.000 Here we go.

02:38:51.000 People at home, if you know the song, you're welcome to sing it.

02:38:54.000 Here we go.

02:38:54.000 You guys count it down.

02:38:56.000 One, two, one, two, three, four.

02:39:05.000 Look at you with the slides on.

02:39:09.000 Rape me.

02:39:10.000 Okay.

02:39:11.000 Okay.

02:39:14.000 What the fuck he did?

02:39:16.000 I'm having fun.

02:39:17.000 It looks like you're having fun.

02:39:18.000 That's what it's about.

02:39:19.000 I get it.

02:39:20.000 So, yeah, we also have Pauly Shore is Dead that's on the 20-year anniversary is this year.

02:39:25.000 Nice.

02:39:25.000 Pauly Shore is Dead, so that's on my YouTube.

02:39:27.000 So I got a lot of stuff on my YouTube.

02:39:30.000 I'll see you tomorrow night.

02:39:31.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

02:39:32.000 Have fun.

02:39:32.000 Thanks for being here.

02:39:33.000 Peace out.

02:39:34.000 Peace out.

02:39:34.000 Bye, bud.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 03, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #1981 - Pauly Shore

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