On this episode of The Real Reel Podcast with John Rocha and Matt, we catch up with one of the greatest comedians of all time, Gabrielle Union. Gabrielle has been a part of the LA comedy scene for over 20 years and is a legend in her own right. In this episode, we talk about his rise to stardom, his early days at The Ice House, his time at Dodger Stadium and much more. We also talk about how much he's paid for his set at Fenway Park and what it's like to be in the middle of it all. We hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a great rest of your day! John and Matt -John and Matt: . John: . . . Gabrielle: , Gabele: . .8 .9 .10 .15 .16 .17 .18 .19 .20 .23 .24 .25 .26 .27 .28 .29 .30 .31 .32 .33 .34 .35 .36 .37 .38 .39 .40 .41 .46 .47 .48 .49 .50 .56 .57 .58 .59 .60 .66 .67 .68 .69 .7 .70 .75 .77 .78 .79 .80 .81 .82 .83 .86 .87 .85 .90 .84 .89 .88 .91 .00 , 00 .01 !00 .05 & 00 , 01 .02 .03 .04 .08 .06 .07 .09 .12 .14 .11 .13 And so Much More! , We'll See You Next Monday , we'll Talk About It! We'll Hear From You we'll See Yaas, We'll Be Back In A Minute, We're Back Next Monday! - John & Matt: We'll Talkin' About It (feat. , Matt, Matt, Thanks, John, Matt & Matt, John & Paul, ) Thank You, John
00:01:52.000I thought that I was going to be super nervous doing that show, but it was probably one of the most calm experiences for me as far as not feeling pressure because it felt more like a celebration versus me having to perform.
00:02:06.000All these people are already here because they know what I've done over the years.
00:02:11.000And it's not like, oh, I hope I have a good set.
00:05:18.000But the cool part was is that I was used to performing in places like that before I actually got an audience that was willing to just be quiet and listen.
00:05:27.000So I felt like, oh, wow, that was hard, you know, because you have to come out the gate swinging to get people in a bar, people that are focused on the game, focused on trying to hook up, having a drink, trying to wait, you know, waiting for somebody.
00:05:39.000There's all kinds of different things happening.
00:05:41.000And so the fact that, you know, to be able to go out there and get their attention.
00:05:50.000It's a school that no one is going to give you a lesson plan.
00:05:53.000You've got to kind of do it all yourself.
00:05:55.000And you've got to learn from the other people that are doing it, like Joey.
00:05:58.000But it's like I did the same thing in Boston.
00:06:00.000Mostly we got road gigs because those are the ones that, you know, they would pay you to drive for two hours and do some, you know, 40 minutes in front of a bunch of crazy people.
00:06:30.000Because that gave you this chance to, first of all, know you really wanted it.
00:06:34.000Because if you were really going to grind it out every night, going to all these weird, shitty places for no money, for years, for years you're not making any money.
00:07:37.000You had to wind up at some freaking taco shop or whatever at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning talking to other comics because that was the only other way you were going to find out about another show.
00:08:09.000So, staying out late at night, coming home at 4 or 5 in the morning and then having to be up at 7 to go do my 9 to 5. Fortunately, I was young and I was able to hang for about a year and then I just couldn't.
00:08:22.000I was falling asleep at work and I got caught.
00:08:28.000I was working inside of a little kiosk selling cell phones and one time I just kind of, let me do some inventory here on the floor and then I guess I was snoring and somebody caught me.
00:08:44.000And I thought that because I had done a couple of television shows and I saw the money that I could make doing stand-up at that time, I said, oh, well, and you start doing the math, the delusional math.
00:08:55.000Well, if I get one of these a month and I do this and this and this, I only need this much to pay my rent, this much to pay my car, I'm going to be fine.
00:09:02.000And I quit my day job and I got evicted from my apartment because I ran out of money so fast.
00:12:06.000The only thing a comedy class is good for is it actually gets people on stage.
00:12:10.000Getting you on stage is the first thing.
00:12:12.000One thing that I feel like I had an advantage when I started doing stand-up was I took speech classes in high school and so I was very comfortable getting up in front of the class and Just talking.
00:13:08.000Because a lot of times, you know, it's like people say, oh, the scariest thing in the world, jumping out of an airplane or doing this or, you know, go cliff diving.
00:13:14.000But, you know, most people cannot handle being in front of a crowd.
00:13:21.000Whitney Cummings told me that that originates from...
00:13:25.000The ancient tribes that we used to live in when you were brought in front of the tribe to be judged.
00:13:30.000That's why they were all looking at you.
00:13:31.000When there's all those people looking at you, it's either there's some sort of a dilemma that you have to warn people about or you're being judged.
00:13:38.000Both those things are riddled with anxiety.
00:15:41.000And then I remember I went on the road actually with Joe Diaz and with Marilyn Martinez.
00:15:46.000And so I did a show with the two of them.
00:15:48.000And getting a comedy course from Marilyn Martinez and Joey Diaz at the same time is something I will never forget because the two of them are so, like, they were just yin and yang.
00:15:58.000You know, I remember how awesome that friendship was.
00:16:01.000And they were just so real and raw with me.
00:16:03.000And I'm just sitting there and I'm this 21-year-old kid.
00:16:57.000And the beauty of it back then, which I think is missing now, is because social media is so strong, everybody would rather just talk through the phone.
00:17:06.000Whereas back then I felt like it was a lot more...
00:17:08.000I've met so many comics online that I haven't met face to face yet, which I think is crazy.
00:17:46.000I mean, I know it's like in the early days you were getting phone numbers and learning about gigs, but it's also you're hanging out with comics.
00:21:36.000A Volkswagen bus, a 1968 Volkswagen bus, was my first car.
00:21:41.000And for some reason, once I started talking to Jay Leno, he showed me his collection and he started telling me about investing money and being able to enjoy your investment.
00:21:53.000And so I had gotten my ex-girlfriend her first car back, and then his guys helped me get my first car back, which was a bus.
00:22:01.000And they said, well, if there's anything else you want, let me know.
00:22:04.000And I go, well, if you come across another one of these, let me know.
00:22:41.000Well, in the beginning I would try to buy them in as good a condition as possible.
00:22:46.000But then I met some people that do some amazing work.
00:22:49.000There's a friend of mine named Henry Marchena who does all the restorations and he will take a bus that's all rusted out and completely just in shambles and he'll make a Picasso.
00:28:19.000But you can't buy a 1969 Camaro from Chevy.
00:28:22.000Like, if Chevy said, look, we're going to make a 1969 Camaro, it's not going to have any airbags, it's going to have disc brakes, but, like, you know, six-piston disc brakes, and we're going to do a modernized suspension, but it's going to be a 1969 Camaro.
00:28:35.000But it's going to be a 1969 Camaro with a 2023 Camaro engine, and all the electronics and all that jazz.
00:28:42.000People would buy it like crazy, but you could never get away with it, because regulations wouldn't allow it.
00:29:15.000Like, they still keep it at 1974. It's like, come on.
00:29:18.000Well, yeah, I think that's because it's almost impossible.
00:29:21.000Like, if you want to get, like, a 1974 Porsche and you want to convert it to modern standards of exhaust, I wonder what they would even have to do.
00:29:39.000I mean, I think they would have to, like, I know they do restomods with those old Porsches, but I think they just take everything out and put all modern shit in.
00:30:05.000Like, if you had a 74 Porsche built by some madman who, like, made you this wicked air-cooled engine, so you're driving around in a 1974 car that's got all brand new parts.
00:30:16.000Yeah, but they're still going to hold you to the rules.
00:31:05.000Yeah, some of these modifications, they don't really, you know, they're not worried about the height or, you know, you got to put everything else in there to match so that it can handle right.
00:38:22.000It's funny how cars like, not just muscle cars, because muscle cars are fast, but cars like a Volkswagen, they're fun to drive, even if they're slow.
00:38:32.000It's like so much more engaging than a regular car.
00:38:35.000It's like you're on a little ride, like you're in a go-kart.
00:38:37.000That's exactly what it is, and then you're sitting high.
00:38:39.000It's a different experience, you know?
00:38:41.000It's like, now you can get an SUV, and of course you're up there, but to be that high up, and then you're literally, your face is, the windshield's right here.
00:45:54.000I feel like they're making that choice.
00:45:57.000Well, there's probably, as fucked up as it is, some kind of community to being a part of this struggle with all these other people that are sleeping on the streets.
00:48:17.000And they just keep getting more funding.
00:48:19.000And it has to be addressed like an environmental problem.
00:48:22.000Like if there was a leak, an oil leak in the middle of the street, and all those places where the tents were, there was just giant puddles of oil that were coming out of the ground.
00:52:19.000People that I knew were morons, like the mayor of L.A., The psychological aspect of having that guy having any control over what I do with my time, what I do for a living, what I can and can't do, what I'm allowed to do and not allowed to do, based on whatever guidelines he's presenting,
00:52:51.000What was the mayor going to do that's going to affect your life?
00:52:54.000You would vote for the people that you thought had the best policies and supported the school systems and whatever you hoped that they would do.
00:53:01.000But you never thought they would keep you from working.
00:53:30.000More businesses have, you know, went under and, you know, if you were lucky enough to recover or just weather the storm, that's one thing, but most people didn't.
00:53:38.000Yeah, and not only that, those businesses, I bet all those people got COVID anyway.
00:53:44.000And I bet if those people got COVID and recovered, they would have been safe to run their fucking store.
00:53:51.000Like, they just took the decision out of people's hands and it's been proven that it was a disaster.
00:53:58.000It was a disaster for the economy, it was a disaster for mental health, it was a disaster for people's careers, it was a disaster for people's long-term businesses that they had to close.
00:55:54.000I wish it was going somewhere really good.
00:55:55.000Like, if the taxes were very high, but then you looked at the quality of life that you get from it, and you're like, wow, they do an amazing job with all this tax money.
00:56:20.000That you think you are doing your job, if you are governing a city that has 100,000 homeless people or whatever it is, what do we say it is?
00:56:42.000And they cleaned up all the tents around the city.
00:56:44.000Every now and then they pop up under the bridge, but they clean them up and then they come back and then they clean them up and they come back.
00:56:50.000At least they don't allow them to accumulate and become like a village in San Francisco.
00:56:55.000Whereas San Francisco, essentially they have these open-air drug dens.
00:56:59.000Michael Schellenberger wrote a great book about it called San Francisco and he talks about how these progressive policies are just destroying these cities.
00:57:06.000It's like you have to make a correction and they're not making a correction.
00:57:13.000I wish I had the answer for that, yeah.
00:57:17.000When you go on the road, do you go on the road for just weekends or do you do like long stretches?
00:57:21.000I guess it depends on if it's a big tour.
00:57:23.000Like right now, I'm just doing nothing but clubs.
00:57:27.000After the Dodger Stadium show, my agent and my manager wanted me to ride the wave of the success of the special and go back and tour hard.
00:57:36.000And I'm like, no, I want to just pump the brakes for a little bit.
00:57:41.000I want to remind myself why I love this so much.
00:57:44.000So I said, I just want to do nothing but clubs for at least half a year.
00:57:47.000And so just doing shows, you know, I'll still do, you know, my four sets a week because I was doing, you know, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
00:57:55.000But now I'm just doing it at one place and then doing two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, you know, get my sets in and go home.
00:58:03.000And yeah, I'm not making the same money, but the peace of mind is incredible.
00:58:07.000You know, I'm not stressing about money.
00:58:09.000I'm not stressing about paying for these tour buses or paying for the rigs or paying for the production.
00:58:13.000You know, what's going on at the end of the night at the arena.
00:58:16.000I mean, there's so much that goes into it.
00:58:18.000And to be able to just walk into a club and focus on, let me just be funny and have fun.
00:58:47.000And so it's been a lot of fun and I've enjoyed it.
00:58:50.000And it reminded me how much I love this.
00:58:54.000Because I think at a certain point, I became a hoe.
00:58:58.000I became a hoe and it became more about the money.
00:59:00.000Because, dude, once the money started coming, it's like you get scared because it's so much and it's coming at you from all these different angles and you're having these meetings and they're going over your portfolio and we've got to invest this and we've got to do that and blah, blah, blah.
01:03:16.000And as somebody that spent years going there to all of a sudden see, you know, you enter through the front, through the street, whereas before you'd enter through the alley.
01:04:28.000Well, I don't think it's set up as a showcase like Melrose or any of the other clubs and stuff.
01:04:34.000It's definitely headliners on the weekend.
01:04:37.000Yeah, there's, when you're talking about like outside of LA, there's Pasadena, there's Comedy Magic, there's a few other, there's always like Irvine, but then you're far out.
01:04:49.000Now you're going pretty far, you know?
01:04:51.000And those clubs are definitely headliners only.
01:04:53.000There's not, there are no showcasing stuff like that.
01:04:55.000There's not like real comedy comedy clubs or showcase clubs outside of the city, right?
01:06:17.000So, like, a person in the audience is like, I can talk too.
01:06:19.000How come he gets to talk and I don't get to talk?
01:06:21.000Like, you start thinking that you could do what they do.
01:06:24.000That's why it's hilarious when you see someone try to go on stage and talk to an audience that's drunk.
01:06:28.000Like, you think you can go up here and do it?
01:06:30.000And they go, yeah, and they get up there and they, like, freeze like a deer in the headlights and then they realize, like, how weird it is.
01:07:48.000I'd have breakfast, I'd have lunch, I'd have dinner.
01:07:50.000Whereas before, God, I was always on the road.
01:07:52.000So it's like I never wanted to eat before I went up on stage because then it would mess with like I get heartburn and you don't want to be burping or farting in front of a crowd.
01:13:41.000And even, like, Tony Hinchcliffe brought this up.
01:13:43.000Like, CNN had a thing on it that it seems like a story, but it kind of is an ad.
01:13:48.000It's kind of an ad for Ozempic, but it seems like it's a story about Hollywood celebrities, but really just jazzing up the fact that everybody's taking Ozempic.
01:13:56.000It seems like there's something more going on there other than just...
01:15:43.000It's like, I feel like everything that I've ever attempted to do for my career, I've been able to do.
01:15:51.000But for myself, my personal self, losing weight's been the hardest thing.
01:15:55.000The hardest fucking thing in the world.
01:15:57.000Somebody explained it to me and it makes a lot of sense.
01:15:59.000One of the reasons why food addictions are the hardest to stop is because you still have to eat food.
01:16:04.000Whereas, like, say if you had a gambling addiction, and you went and got counseling, and you stayed out of the casinos, and now you don't have to think about it anymore.
01:16:12.000You don't have to gamble every day, but you have to eat every day.
01:18:29.000I lose weight, I get lighter, and I'm more clear-headed, which is very strange.
01:18:33.000I think it's because your body starts processing ketones.
01:18:37.000Your brain starts processing ketones instead of carbohydrates.
01:18:41.000Anytime I've had success with weight loss, it's always because I cut out, you know, I went higher on the protein, and I cut back on the breads and the pastas and the sugars and stuff.
01:19:35.000But you also can get addicted to being healthy.
01:19:38.000Another thing that happens is when you start eating really healthy, especially when you start eating low-carbohydrate, high-fat, high-animal fat, animal meat, your gut biome changes.
01:19:49.000And that starts becoming what you're interested in eating.
01:23:48.000And it's just like, dude, at a certain point that becomes a reality, and you lose touch with the fact that you're getting it over your head.
01:23:55.000The key to getting you in shape, though, is someone has to do it correctly, and they've got to do it slow.
01:23:59.000And they've got to do it with a heart monitor, and they've got to do it with a monitor your heart rate variability.
01:24:07.000Like, you should use a whoop strap or some other similar kind of thing.
01:24:12.000And have someone do it, making sure your sleep is good and making sure that your nutrient levels are good.
01:25:20.000A lot of my friends found out they had COVID. Because they woke up and they just didn't feel right and they looked at their whoop strap and it said like, hey, your recovery was like 10%.
01:26:47.000He's got a fucking penthouse room, right?
01:26:48.000So we go into his room, and there's like trees set up where they have these IV trees, and this whole crew is sitting there getting IV bags.
01:30:44.000Being able to do all those things, it's awesome, but the sacrifice of losing touch with certain things, like, I feel terrible that I'm, like, just now getting introduced to something like, you know, Kill Tony, because it's like, you know, at a certain point,
01:30:59.000you are so focused on working, you stop seeing other things that are out there.
01:31:05.000You lose touch with a lot because you're just focused on making this machine go, go, go.
01:31:10.000And I feel like, man, how much have I been missing out on?
01:31:14.000Because I'm working and working and working.
01:32:24.000This business could be like the most community-oriented, comforting, fucking beautiful brother and sisterhood, or it could just be backstabbing nightmare, depending on the circles you travel in and, you know, the stage of your career and also what you give off.
01:32:41.000Now's another thing too is that I always kept a circle very small and I always kept myself busy and away from the potential of having these conflicts.
01:33:25.000It felt really, really good because we were all on that grind and, you know, from these little messed up cities to all of a sudden being in Europe and all over the place.
01:33:59.000And I got a chance to open for him in Mexico City at an arena for his Netflix special.
01:34:06.000And I told him, look, I'll do 15 minutes to open in front of you on the condition that you do 15 minutes in English at Staples Center, when it was still Staples Center.
01:36:56.000I remember the first time when I performed in El Paso at the comic strip, you know, there was very few comics that could do Spanglish.
01:37:06.000And when you got a crowd that's got 80 to 90 percent Mexican and you're hitting them with stuff that's hysterical in English and now you're throwing in like, I'm one of you too.
01:39:07.000And then when I got off, I'm like, yeah!
01:39:09.000And then the headliner, the feature, the manager, everybody was waiting to rip me a new one because it's like, yeah, we get it that you can do that, but you're not supposed to do that.
01:39:43.000But I just remember that when I went up there and I was throwing in Spanish references and I would actually make references to television shows that were in Spanish or things that people could relate to from their childhood.
01:39:54.000And doing that there, it was just boom.
01:39:58.000So when you're saying the thing with Joey, I get it.
01:40:01.000Because when you can do that and you're in an area where they know you and you're like, yes, he's one of us.
01:45:55.000Getting on a bus, getting on a plane, having to check into hotels, you know, like everything that goes into the day with exception to the actual performing itself.
01:46:04.000Or having to perform through, you know, when the check drops.
01:46:09.000That's the only time I was like, okay, let's see how this goes.
01:48:02.000And, you know, it's like you don't realize how good people, like, someone can be at something until you see, like, a master chef prepare food.
01:48:10.000And you're like, oh, there's a difference, even in sushi, which I would just think of, you know, ignorantly before I would think of it as just, oh, this is like fish.
01:50:21.000I'll do sushi, I'll do caviar, lobsters, you know, shrimps, fish, salmon.
01:50:26.000They say that oysters and scallops and clams are good for vegans because if you think about it, they're not really an animal, but they give you animal protein.
01:50:40.000Scallops are more primitive than plants.
01:52:35.000I respect people's choices and I think that one is a complicated one and it's a convenient one too.
01:52:44.000The convenient one is not taking into account all the animal deaths involved in large-scale agriculture, which is where you get most of your vegetables, because there's a lot of animal death involved in that.
01:53:28.000And he actually knows the statistics and what is actually involved in it.
01:53:32.000But when I talk to people that run these regenerative farms, when they describe industrial farms and all the shit that they have to do and how all that gets into the rivers and it poisons the rivers, it's wild stuff, man.
01:53:48.000So they have to constantly pour all these fertilizers and nitrogen and all this shit all over the ground because there's no nutrients left in the topsoil.
01:54:08.000And he has a regenerative farm and he's right next to a farm that's an industrial farm.
01:54:13.000And there's like a clear line between the runoff on his side where the water's clear and then the runoff on his neighbor's side where immediately you can see that it becomes mud.
01:54:57.000And then there's this new evidence that plants can think and plants communicate and plants share information and that through mycelium, through the actual, like, the fungus that's in the soil, they're exchanging information and even resources.
01:55:11.000That there's certain intelligence in it, yeah.
01:55:19.000Pluck lettuce out of the ground and screams.
01:55:21.000I want to say it was like a modern version of the Twilight Zone.
01:55:26.000There was an episode where this guy was trying to lose weight and he was going to eat vegetables out of his fridge and every vegetable would make a sound like that.
01:55:36.000So he's trying to eat but he can't eat anything and he's starving and at the end everything just kind of rotted and they found the guy dead.
01:55:48.000There's an old Twilight Zone where these aliens come down and they introduce themselves to Earth and they give us a book and the book is to serve man.
01:55:59.000They find this book that they have and then they realize it's a cookbook.
02:02:34.000Yeah, and then have a few whistleblowers come out and have these guys, well, I can tell you definitively that we have recovered 12 crashed UFOs.
02:02:47.000If I wanted to dupe people into thinking that these things that maybe they occasionally see that we operate, That they're not ours because we don't have that kind of capability.
02:02:56.000If I was going to lie about our capability, which maybe you should and maybe they've done before with like the stealth bomber, remember?
02:03:31.000So if they had it, why would they tell us?
02:03:33.000If they really had irrefutable evidence that this something is an off-world vehicle, it comes from another dimension, it comes from another planet, why would they tell us?
02:03:43.000They would only tell us if they have to tell us.
02:03:46.000They would tell us the stuff that they have is actually from another planet because they don't want people to know what they can do yet.
02:04:35.000We might be visited, and it might be a combination of both of those things.
02:04:39.000It might be some of those things are our drones, and it might be some of the things are not ours, and maybe some of the things are from other countries as well.
02:04:47.000And maybe some of those things are from another planet or maybe from some life form that we haven't established that has bases in the ocean.
02:04:54.000Because there's a lot of these, at least one of them they got on video that is A craft that was flying in the air and then went into the ocean.
02:05:11.000Like, I wish it was clean, but it was miles away and they're, you know, using infrared footage at night or whatever their night vision at night.
02:05:23.000So I'm like, bro, there's so much evidence now.
02:05:25.000And even talk to people like Michio Kaku, who's this physicist, this brilliant guy, and he's saying that there's more evidence that they exist than that.
02:05:34.000Now it's up to the people that don't think they exist to try to prove it wrong because there's so much visual evidence, tracking evidence, tracking data.
02:05:42.000But I'm always like, what if they've been working on some stuff?
02:05:46.000What if they were just scooping up top scientists and fucking, they've got some sort of plan for some different propulsion system and it's operable.
02:05:53.000And they've been working on it for decades, in secret.
02:06:01.000But if the technology is that advanced, then where did you get it?
02:06:04.000Well, like, I get, you know, you're smart enough to come up with certain things, but, you know.
02:06:08.000People did research on gravity drives, and there's papers that were written on the possibility of manipulating gravity.
02:06:16.000I just don't think there was ever a power source that was figured out.
02:06:20.000I don't think, like, you'd have to generate some fucking insane amount of power to be able to manipulate gravity.
02:06:26.000But I think they theorized it a long time ago.
02:06:29.000So if you just threw all the best scientists and all the money that you could possibly fucking steal from the taxpayers and you funneled it off into this program that's making a UFO, maybe they could do it.
02:06:52.000He's never done stand-up before, but he's been practicing, and he writes comedy every day, and he practices in front of the mirror, and one day he's gonna go on stage, he's gonna be the best comic that's ever lived.
02:07:03.000He'd be like, no, that's not possible.
02:07:06.000He's not gonna be able to just go on stage the first time and be the best comic that's ever lived.
02:07:11.000So maybe the things that I'm saying about physics and these physicists developing this gravity drive without anybody knowing, maybe that's not possible, because maybe that's not my world, you know?
02:07:21.000But you're looking at it through the eyes of a comic who understands timing and you have to, you know, trial and error.
02:07:30.000And they would look at physics that way.
02:07:31.000They would understand what they're, you know, they would say, no, no, you can't just, you can't violate the laws of physics with a select group of people that stay quiet and don't tell people about it and come up with some insane new method of propulsion.
02:08:56.000Like some sort of, like they described it in the movie Event Horizon.
02:09:00.000That you would essentially, a piece of paper, you would fold the two pieces of time together and punch a hole through both of them and wind up on the other side when it flattens out.
02:10:24.000If they had some fucking crazy object they've been working on, and maybe the scientist that really knew how to work it was dead, and so now you got new guys you're bringing in to try to, like, back-engineer his work.
02:11:14.000Found whatever the thing was and two bodies and one of them was alive and They picked the one that was injured and they took it in a car to several different hospitals It's all documented that they take this body and the guy who is carrying the body Died of a serious bacterial infection that they could not cure they didn't know what the fuck it was young healthy guy the guy Handling the alien body got he died within like two weeks.
02:11:40.000They didn't know what the fuck there's all this Documentation on the disease, the progression of the disease, how they couldn't stop it.
02:12:36.000I think I found one where you can find it for free.
02:12:39.000What's crazy is they bring this cop back to the spot where the crash was, where they first saw the crash, and the guy hadn't been there in forever.
02:12:49.000And I'm like, if this guy is an actor, he needs a fucking Academy Award.
02:12:57.000This moment where he's overwhelmed, where he's talking about the experience of seeing this thing there and knowing that it's from somewhere else.
02:13:04.000And seeing these things, these little tiny things with big eyes, staring at him.
02:13:09.000And these girls, these three girls that were like very young at the time, they were sisters and they were playing outside and they saw this thing.
02:13:16.000And they said the thing was like trying to communicate with them, telling them to help it.
02:13:33.000That guy's passion, though, the way he tells the story, you could tell either, like you said, he's either a great actor or he's reliving it.
02:14:03.000Wouldn't they be beyond that in technology?
02:14:06.000Not necessarily, because here's the thing.
02:14:09.000If you think about where the technological level that human beings are at right now, like in a first world country, and then you go to the Amazon and you have the indigenous hunter-gatherer tribes who still live the old way, they're there too at the same time in 2023. So just because there's aliens out there doesn't mean they're all the same level of advancement.
02:14:30.000There might be an alien out there that's a thousand years ahead of us, just a thousand.
02:14:34.000And every now and then they get hit by lightning.
02:14:38.000And they make their way through and they might have landed, they might have ported back to wherever the fuck the lightning storm was and didn't understand it was going to happen and got fucked up and crash landed in a backyard in Brazil.
02:14:52.000What always gets me is that the technology on, like, spacecraft never matches the body.
02:14:57.000Like, it's always something that's, like, all these different, like, right now there's that video that they're showing something in the backyard that's hiding.
02:15:07.000And this thing looks, it almost looks ape-like.
02:15:10.000Like, so there's nothing that, you know, it's not worth anything.
02:15:19.000They were saying it was the UFO from the Vegas thing.
02:15:22.000They were saying it's the Vegas thing.
02:15:22.000They just took the 911 audio and put it over top of another video.
02:15:28.000You never see the body or whatever match whatever the technology is as far as the craft.
02:15:34.000Well, the most compelling story does, and that's the Bob Lazar story.
02:15:38.000And Bob Lazar is a guy who is a propulsions expert.
02:15:41.000He says he was hired to work in Vegas, back engineering in Nevada, in the desert area, S4. Where they were back engineering an alien craft.
02:15:52.000And he said it was designed for tiny things, like something that was like three feet tall.
02:16:15.000Created some sort of an anti-gravity wave that allowed this thing to move.
02:16:20.000And this reactor was based on an element that wasn't on the periodic table yet, element 115. And these people, these beings, supposedly have a stable version of this element.
02:16:30.000And in this reactor, it allows them to violate all of our understanding of propulsion systems and use some sort of gravity-based propulsion.
02:17:36.000You know, the problem is then you start looking for that.
02:17:39.000So say if you're tripping on mushrooms, you might manifest like a gray talking to you because you know, like from close encounters of the third kind, you expect that's what the alien's going to look like.
02:17:48.000So maybe it shows itself to you in that form because that's how you can handle it.
02:18:29.000That what they're doing here is that they're here to monitor our nuclear power and our nuclear weapons and make sure we don't launch them at each other.
02:18:38.000Because that's when they first start showing up.
02:18:41.000All the stories about UFOs really kicked in after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
02:18:47.000That's when it was like UFOs were hovering over the White House.
02:19:45.000I've seen a few videos where people are watching these long, you know, big B-roll footage of, like, skylines, and people are like, look at that fly by this building.
02:19:53.000And this is from NBC? MSNBC? Probably not going to play it, so let me find another one.
02:21:41.000You know, or like whenever you see, you know, primates and they're teaching them sign language or they teach them how to do certain things and it's like, okay, maybe, you know, they're teaching us how to do certain things just to see what we do.
02:21:56.000It's like the level of intelligence that, you know, we have a certain understanding and we can only unlock so much, but who knows what level, you know, whatever else out there is at.
02:22:08.000And maybe it's like, yeah, let's teach them how to be able to talk to each other.
02:22:13.000Let's teach them how to do this, maybe to study.
02:22:31.000The path is technological progression.
02:22:33.000Everything keeps getting better and faster and computers and electric cars and airplanes are faster and everything's far better and computers is far more power at a certain point in time.
02:22:45.000I bet every civilization goes through that.
02:22:48.000If aliens are real, if they really get to be super sophisticated where they can travel through the cosmos, I bet they all get to that point where they're learning how to be civilized at the same time they're learning insane technology.
02:23:03.000And then the people that get access to the insane technology are still barbaric.
02:23:06.000And they still want to use it to fucking nuke countries and shit.
02:23:09.000There's probably a balancing act there.
02:23:12.000That gets achieved by every civilization, and it's probably pretty precarious.
02:23:16.000Like right now, like in the state where we're at now, it might probably like...
02:23:43.000But also, if I was a government, I wanted a lot of people about some shit that I had, I'd start putting all these UFO stories out there.
02:23:50.000That way you could scare the shit out of them.
02:23:53.000If they found out there was an alien invasion, the only way to stop it was to shut down the internet and give the controls of the internet to the president where they could limit it to a certain amount of time during the day.
02:25:35.000There's a PBS article that is counter to this story we've heard for a while.
02:25:42.000It did a little bit of research on it and it says that not only did very few people hear the actual broadcast, virtually no one thought it was real.