The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2004

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00:00:12.000 Oh no.

00:00:14.000 Man, that's what you was doing.

00:00:15.000 You just wanted to go smoke weed with Joe and shit.

00:00:18.000 I couldn't keep up with Snoop.

00:00:20.000 Snoop just keeps going.

00:00:22.000 Man, Snoop, he got a...

00:00:26.000 Fucking professional bud roller.

00:00:28.000 I think he's paying 40 grand a year or some shit.

00:00:30.000 Really?

00:00:31.000 I don't know how much, but I know it's a dude who's eight hours a day, he just bringing Snoop like a hundred blunts in a bag.

00:00:45.000 Here you go, Snoop.

00:00:46.000 He's the one dude that's exempt anywhere he goes.

00:00:48.000 No one's gonna fuck with Snoop with weed.

00:00:51.000 He smoked weed at the White House.

00:00:53.000 Did he really?

00:00:54.000 Yeah, he went in the bathroom and got down.

00:00:57.000 I said, oh man.

00:00:59.000 I said, yeah.

00:01:00.000 He blazed anywhere.

00:01:02.000 Church, swimming pools.

00:01:04.000 He inside the pool blazing.

00:01:06.000 Underwater.

00:01:07.000 He's got a card.

00:01:08.000 You can just let him slide.

00:01:09.000 Yeah.

00:01:11.000 Yeah.

00:01:12.000 He's Snoop.

00:01:13.000 You know, what you gonna say?

00:01:14.000 What are you gonna say?

00:01:15.000 What you gonna say, man?

00:01:16.000 Everybody loves Snoop.

00:01:17.000 The same thing with Chappelle.

00:01:18.000 When we go out with Dave, Dave would just fire up at a restaurant.

00:01:21.000 Hey man, you know.

00:01:24.000 Gotta let him know you in the house.

00:01:26.000 Nobody says anything.

00:01:27.000 Yeah, what they gonna say.

00:01:28.000 I mean, who wants to be part of his next comedy special?

00:01:33.000 The person that told Dave Chappelle, you can't blaze in Ruth Chris.

00:01:41.000 Nah, nah, nah.

00:01:43.000 Well, hey man, thank you very much for being here.

00:01:45.000 I really appreciate it.

00:01:46.000 You want some coffee?

00:01:46.000 No, thanks for having me.

00:01:48.000 You know, I probably had too much coffee.

00:01:50.000 Yeah, today, you know what I mean?

00:01:52.000 I probably had about two cups already, so I should be cold too.

00:01:56.000 This afternoon.

00:01:57.000 So I saw this video where you said you're doing just a podcast tour.

00:02:01.000 Yeah.

00:02:02.000 I'm here to everybody.

00:02:04.000 Everybody that want to talk to me, you know what I'm saying?

00:02:06.000 I just want to be able to get the message out to the people, talk to the people.

00:02:15.000 I've been trying to push my league, and mainstream sports media have really basically ignored what we're doing for the last six years.

00:02:24.000 Why do you think that is?

00:02:26.000 I think they're nervous about the NBA. They're nervous about their relationship with the NBA could be damaged if they promote the Big Three.

00:02:38.000 I would think it would help everybody.

00:02:42.000 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 I mean, it's basketball in the summer.

00:02:48.000 They got the WNBA, but we really don't play at the same time.

00:02:53.000 They got the games, we got our games.

00:02:58.000 And what's crazy is we got their...

00:03:02.000 You know, former Hall of Famers as a part of this league.

00:03:07.000 And they wanted to be a part of this league.

00:03:10.000 So it's not like we hijacking them or we, you know, kidnapping them.

00:03:16.000 They want to be a part of this league.

00:03:17.000 They want it to be successful.

00:03:19.000 And they want to make money in the summer.

00:03:21.000 So I don't know what the NBA is thinking about trying to deprive...

00:03:27.000 Dr. J and Rick Barry and Iceman, George Girvin, a little check in the summer.

00:03:33.000 Like, what's the problem?

00:03:35.000 Yeah, it doesn't seem like it would compete at all.

00:03:37.000 It seems like it would enhance.

00:03:39.000 When you have more basketball, basketball fans, they have a season.

00:03:45.000 When it's over, it's over.

00:03:47.000 The fact that there's more basketball seems to me, but I'm a person that's like, I feel like there's enough pie for everybody with everything.

00:03:54.000 I feel like that with fighting, with MMA. When there's a new organization comes out, I'm like, good, good.

00:03:59.000 Give people more opportunity to make money.

00:04:01.000 Without a doubt, you know, and it's about who do it the best.

00:04:04.000 And we're not trying to compete in any way, shape, or form with the NBA. We're very complementary.

00:04:12.000 So I don't understand why they would, you know, do some of the things that's being done behind the scenes.

00:04:21.000 Are they, like, encouraging people to not do it?

00:04:24.000 Encouraging people to not sponsor us.

00:04:26.000 I mean, like...

00:04:27.000 Really?

00:04:27.000 Yeah.

00:04:28.000 I mean, encouraging networks not to play us.

00:04:32.000 Really?

00:04:33.000 Yeah.

00:04:34.000 Those things...

00:04:36.000 We've been able to survive, but, you know, at a certain point, it's just redundant and ridiculous, and we got to fight back some way, shape, or form.

00:04:49.000 In my mind, it seems silly.

00:04:51.000 It seems like it would only enhance.

00:04:52.000 But that's what happens when you get big corporations, man.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, and you know what, Joe?

00:04:58.000 It's not the players.

00:04:59.000 It's not the owners.

00:05:01.000 It's not GMs or scouts because they, you know, name a big owner.

00:05:07.000 He probably loves the league.

00:05:09.000 And we've heard from a lot of them that they love the league.

00:05:12.000 They would love to invest.

00:05:15.000 And the players love the league.

00:05:17.000 They come to the games.

00:05:19.000 They play in the league when they're done with the NBA. GMs, scouts come sitting next to me on the front row and be like, oh man, you know.

00:05:31.000 And they even pull some of our guys, put them in the G League.

00:05:36.000 A couple of our guys made it all the way back to the NBA. You know, 10-day contracts, things like that.

00:05:42.000 So...

00:05:43.000 It's not the culture of the NBA. It's just the suits.

00:05:47.000 It's the corporate people.

00:05:49.000 It's the brass.

00:05:50.000 It's the top guys that are scared of what we got.

00:05:55.000 Just scared of competition in general always.

00:05:57.000 Well, they think they own basketball.

00:06:01.000 They think, like, we own basketball.

00:06:05.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:06:06.000 But it's nuts.

00:06:08.000 It's fucking nuts.

00:06:10.000 Because I don't hear kids running out saying, Mom, I'm about to go play NBA. Right.

00:06:16.000 No, they say, Mom, I'm about to go play basketball with my friends.

00:06:20.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 So basketball doesn't have an owner.

00:06:24.000 And they are, I think, intimidated that we have changed the game.

00:06:31.000 And we haven't changed it just to change it.

00:06:34.000 We've changed it for the better, and we've changed it within our own version of the sport.

00:06:41.000 So we're not trying to change five-on-five.

00:06:44.000 We're just trying to introduce three-on-three and elevate it to the professional level, which we have.

00:06:51.000 I only think that would be a good thing.

00:06:53.000 Those suits are silly.

00:06:54.000 It is a good thing, man.

00:06:55.000 They are silly.

00:06:56.000 That's why I'm here, man.

00:06:57.000 You know, it's like it's time for these, you know, suits to get out the way and, you know, let the relationship flourish if it's going to flourish.

00:07:06.000 And even if it don't, look, we're doing fine.

00:07:09.000 On our sixth season, our ratings are growing.

00:07:13.000 You know, we did, you know, 500,000 people on CBS this Sunday.

00:07:20.000 That's awesome.

00:07:21.000 It's crazy.

00:07:21.000 Where'd this idea come from?

00:07:24.000 Me and my guy Jeff, you know, we've been working together for over 25 years.

00:07:30.000 Everything in the last 25 years, we've kind of been cooking it up.

00:07:35.000 So, you know, we see Kobe score 60 points in his last game.

00:07:42.000 Now, this idea had been brewing in me, but it was like, you know, it's sports.

00:07:49.000 I'm an entertainment guy.

00:07:51.000 You know, I'm in rap.

00:07:52.000 I'm in, you know, music and movies and television and that.

00:07:56.000 So it had just been sitting there, and this dude hit 60 points in his last game, and then there's nowhere else you can see him play.

00:08:07.000 He's done.

00:08:08.000 Bye.

00:08:09.000 Wave going to tunnel.

00:08:11.000 And we're like, that sucks.

00:08:13.000 It sucks that we cannot ever see Kobe Bryant playing a professional basketball game again.

00:08:20.000 It's got to be other guys that people want to see that still got it.

00:08:27.000 They may not be able to play 82 games, but You know what I mean?

00:08:31.000 They may not be able to play back-to-backs in three games in four nights, but half-court, three-on-three to 50, they're going to look like all-stars.

00:08:44.000 And so that's where the idea started to germinate.

00:08:50.000 That makes sense, too, that it's just the breakdown as you get older.

00:08:53.000 You just can't do as many games.

00:08:55.000 That makes sense.

00:08:56.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.000 I mean, they still can play.

00:08:58.000 Like...

00:08:59.000 If you put them out there one game, give it all you got against the 20-year-olds, they'll do great.

00:09:08.000 But if you have them play the next day, they just can't recover as fast as the 20-year-olds.

00:09:17.000 So they look like they can play the next day.

00:09:21.000 So by having a week off...

00:09:25.000 You get to recover.

00:09:26.000 It's like football.

00:09:26.000 You know, you get a chance to let your body recover, heal.

00:09:30.000 So by the time that next weekend come around, you're 100% ready, good to go.

00:09:36.000 Let's do it.

00:09:37.000 Especially with the way guys train today, where older guys can train today, you know, with the science of sports nutrition and science of recovery.

00:09:46.000 They're just so much better at it now than they've ever been before.

00:09:52.000 We changed our mind.

00:09:53.000 We got rid of the seats.

00:09:54.000 We heard you was on Joe.

00:09:56.000 What can we do?

00:09:58.000 This is so stupid.

00:10:00.000 That's the thing with older fighters, too.

00:10:02.000 They have a hard time getting through camps.

00:10:04.000 They can still fight, but getting through an eight-week camp is two-a-days, all the sparring.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, too much.

00:10:14.000 I remember, I forgot the football player.

00:10:18.000 He played for the Giants.

00:10:20.000 Receiver.

00:10:22.000 Plexico Burris.

00:10:24.000 Plexico Burris.

00:10:26.000 The coaches hated him.

00:10:28.000 I ain't going to say hated him.

00:10:29.000 I'm just exaggerating.

00:10:31.000 They didn't like the fact that he would not practice at all.

00:10:36.000 Come in the game on Sunday and score a touchdown.

00:10:41.000 It's like it goes against everything that they preach.

00:10:44.000 You have to practice, you have to practice, you have to practice.

00:10:47.000 Then you are conditioned to score the touchdown.

00:10:50.000 But he's like, no, I gotta recover, I gotta recover, I gotta recover, and then by Sunday I can go out and score a touchdown.

00:10:58.000 And that goes against Coach's philosophy.

00:11:02.000 But he knew his own body.

00:11:04.000 Of course.

00:11:05.000 And We all know our own body to a certain extent.

00:11:11.000 And I think you should always save an athlete from himself, but you shouldn't push an athlete before he's ready to go.

00:11:21.000 Yeah.

00:11:22.000 It's always different for different people too.

00:11:26.000 Some people recover quicker.

00:11:29.000 You know, as athletes get older in particular, they get more and more wise to that.

00:11:34.000 More and more wise to like how their body works and what they need to do and not need to do.

00:11:38.000 Yeah, you know, I heard one player say that, man, they don't pay me to play in the game.

00:11:47.000 Like, I'll do that for free.

00:11:50.000 70,000, 15,000 fans, who wouldn't do that for free?

00:11:56.000 They pay me to practice.

00:11:58.000 They pay me to show up on time.

00:12:01.000 They pay me to do all the stuff I don't want to do.

00:12:05.000 And, you know, that makes sense.

00:12:09.000 You don't practice somebody just because you're paying them.

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:14.000 Well, the difference between, like, you can never do this when football players are done, they're kind of done.

00:12:19.000 Because just the damage they take.

00:12:22.000 Some.

00:12:23.000 I think it depends on the style.

00:12:26.000 I think you could do an interesting flag version of football.

00:12:37.000 I think you could sell it if it was thought about and really worked on to be pleasing to the fans.

00:12:49.000 How would you do that?

00:12:50.000 Because people love touchdowns, but they also love tackles.

00:12:54.000 They love people getting hit.

00:12:56.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 I mean, there's a few ways to do it.

00:12:59.000 You could do pads, 7-on-7, and kind of open the game up a little bit so it's not so...

00:13:11.000 Many collisions coming from so many different angles.

00:13:15.000 Less people, more space, more skill set, not so brute but a little bit of hitting.

00:13:24.000 Could do it that way too.

00:13:26.000 Yeah, that could work.

00:13:28.000 The flag one, I would think, would be kind of tough.

00:13:30.000 It's tough because people look at flag as kind of like a side, you know, a byproduct of football, not real football.

00:13:42.000 Almost like football for kids.

00:13:44.000 Yeah.

00:13:44.000 But guys that go out and play two-hand touch all day, you know?

00:13:48.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 So maybe that's it.

00:13:51.000 Hmm.

00:13:52.000 Who knows?

00:13:53.000 Well, it's interesting when fighters figure out ways to do that, too, like what Floyd is doing.

00:13:58.000 What Floyd is doing is so interesting.

00:14:00.000 He retires from fighting, and he says, I'll just start boxing people who have no chance.

00:14:06.000 Hey, why not, you know?

00:14:08.000 I mean, exhibition.

00:14:10.000 Like, we saw that in, what, Rocky III or something?

00:14:13.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.000 He started doing exhibitions with Hulk Hogan.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, exactly, exactly.

00:14:21.000 And got caught.

00:14:22.000 I mean, got hurt, like, you know, dealing with that.

00:14:25.000 So, I mean, I think people want to see Floyd fight You know, some people want to see him lose.

00:14:32.000 You know, I never wanted to see Floyd lose.

00:14:35.000 And so he'll always have some interest.

00:14:40.000 You know, even if he's fighting, you know.

00:14:42.000 What he did is just complete genius.

00:14:46.000 Yes.

00:14:46.000 First of all, from just changing his style, right, he broke his hands a lot.

00:14:50.000 So when he was younger, they called him Pretty Boy Floyd.

00:14:52.000 Yeah.

00:14:52.000 And then he changes his name to Money.

00:14:54.000 And when he changes his name to Money, he turns heel.

00:14:56.000 Yeah.

00:14:57.000 He became like this guy, and everybody wanted to see him get beat.

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:02.000 He's the most unhittable guy in the history of the sport.

00:15:04.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:05.000 He's right up there with Pernell Whitaker.

00:15:07.000 Those are the two guys that I say are the most elusive guys in modern, you know, past Willie Pep, in modern era.

00:15:14.000 Pernell Whitaker and Floyd.

00:15:17.000 Floyd's even more impressive because he stands right in front of guys.

00:15:19.000 He stands right in front of you and you can't hit him.

00:15:21.000 Right in front of you.

00:15:22.000 And you can't get a good one on him.

00:15:24.000 You can't get shit on him.

00:15:26.000 It's one of the most amazing skill sets.

00:15:30.000 He's like one of those Minnesota Fats kind of pool players that know all the trick shots.

00:15:38.000 You can't beat him.

00:15:39.000 A guy that can play a hand or a board game or ping pong, you just can't beat him.

00:15:49.000 He's that way in boxing.

00:15:51.000 He just knows all the tricks of the trade and he's just better.

00:15:55.000 He has way more information about where you should be for where he can hit you and where he should be where you can't hit him.

00:16:01.000 It's just he's got it all in his head.

00:16:03.000 He knows what punch can be thrown at what time and what punch can't.

00:16:07.000 And so he just, when he knows you can't throw a punch, that's where he is.

00:16:12.000 And when he knows you can, That's where he ain't.

00:16:14.000 My favorite fight, I've had a lot of favorite fights of his, but one of my favorites was the Canelo fight.

00:16:19.000 Because it was just a master class.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:21.000 Master class.

00:16:22.000 And just a young, incredibly promising champion, a guy who's going to be an all-time great, but not yet.

00:16:29.000 Not yet.

00:16:30.000 You're not ready for that guy.

00:16:31.000 You know, Floyd always catch him young.

00:16:33.000 Yeah.

00:16:34.000 He'd catch him coming up.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, he'd catch him young or old.

00:16:37.000 Yeah, you know.

00:16:38.000 And he'd tap you up and then he'd say, thank you.

00:16:41.000 Yeah.

00:16:41.000 You know, next.

00:16:42.000 He did a smart thing, too.

00:16:43.000 He got him to cut down 152 pounds.

00:16:45.000 Yeah.

00:16:46.000 Got him a little lighter.

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 A little smaller.

00:16:48.000 A little more dehydrated.

00:16:49.000 A little weaker.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, a little weaker.

00:16:51.000 And then just box him up.

00:16:53.000 Yeah.

00:16:53.000 But if you see what it did to Canelo's game, like you see Canelo when he fought Danny Jacobs later on, he was moving like Floyd.

00:16:59.000 Like he mirrored that.

00:17:01.000 You have to.

00:17:02.000 I mean, you're dealing with a master.

00:17:04.000 And when you fight a master, or if I rapped against a master, or if you spar against a master, you better take a few tricks of the trade with you.

00:17:17.000 That's the whole thing about respecting the game.

00:17:21.000 Daniel Cormier always says you get the rub like when someone fights for the title and you fight a world champion you feel what that's like like okay and you either get way better or you kind of like realize I'll never beat that guy.

00:17:33.000 You'll never get that level.

00:17:34.000 There was like a lot of like during the Tyson era nobody got the rub.

00:17:40.000 He got in there and you were like fuck this.

00:17:42.000 I mean, Tyson had you so many...

00:17:45.000 He had so many psychological advantages.

00:17:49.000 Everybody else, you know, give me the pretty robe.

00:17:52.000 Put this satin on the robe.

00:17:54.000 I need to look...

00:17:56.000 I had to have flares coming from my tassels.

00:17:59.000 You know, I have to be right.

00:18:00.000 You know, I got to look pretty coming in there.

00:18:03.000 Floyd come in there gladiator style.

00:18:06.000 Mike had a towel over his head with a hole in it.

00:18:09.000 And no socks on.

00:18:14.000 He ain't here for none of that.

00:18:15.000 He just here to whoop your ass.

00:18:18.000 It was the best.

00:18:19.000 And, you know, he psychologically beat a lot of people before he even landed that fatal punch.

00:18:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:26.000 Even after the Buster Douglas fight, that didn't even take it away from him.

00:18:30.000 A lot of times when a guy gets knocked out, their aura of invincibility goes away, but with Mike, it was still there.

00:18:36.000 Yeah, because people are always scared of the, you know, when you snap.

00:18:41.000 Nobody want to deal with crazy.

00:18:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:45.000 Everybody can deal with everything, but, you know, everybody get out the way of crazy.

00:18:50.000 Yeah.

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:51.000 When Mike was screaming, I'll eat your children.

00:18:54.000 Man.

00:18:55.000 Yeah.

00:18:56.000 This is the walkout.

00:18:57.000 Look, he's just pushing everybody out of the way.

00:18:59.000 Nobody even want to give him a dap, because they don't know if he's going to knock them out on his way to the ring.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, that's, I mean, this is some of the G-est shit ever.

00:19:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:12.000 Like, just a towel, cut the towel in half, man.

00:19:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:16.000 I ain't got time for this shit.

00:19:18.000 I'm ready to knock somebody the fuck out.

00:19:22.000 It was a special time in boxing because it was a long time where the heavyweight champion, you know, Larry Holmes didn't get his due because he beat up Muhammad Ali.

00:19:29.000 So everybody was always mad at Larry.

00:19:31.000 And then when Mike Tyson came along, it was like all of a sudden there's like a real heavyweight champion where everybody wants to see him fight.

00:19:40.000 Yeah, you know, he was my first experience of a guy who was just, you know, the incredible Hulk.

00:19:50.000 Like, going and knock people out.

00:19:52.000 You know, two or three rounds, it's over.

00:19:55.000 You know, I grew up watching Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes and all the other fighters in between.

00:20:01.000 You know, I wasn't really, you know, old enough to appreciate Joe Frazier or nothing like that, but...

00:20:09.000 When Tyson came around, he was like, oh, this is what you want in a fighter.

00:20:15.000 That's why he was a superhero.

00:20:17.000 I was like, this is what you want.

00:20:20.000 You want that attitude.

00:20:23.000 Pretty fighters are okay, but you want a ferocious fighter.

00:20:30.000 Yeah, pretty fighters are fun to watch.

00:20:32.000 Look, as a person who appreciates what Floyd can do, the way he expresses himself, it's genius.

00:20:39.000 It's genius boxing.

00:20:41.000 A lot of people want to know who's the best ever.

00:20:43.000 I feel like you go on who got hit the least, who won the most fights and who got hit the least.

00:20:48.000 If you look at that, Floyd's at the top of the heap by far.

00:20:52.000 No one's even close.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, and count the money.

00:20:55.000 Yeah.

00:20:56.000 And count the money, yeah.

00:20:57.000 I gotta say, he is the best.

00:21:01.000 But when you want to see a destruction, the Mike Tyson fights were a completely different kind of an event.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, you know, the thing is, you know, I think people would love Floyd if he, you know, had a little more pop on the punch, you know?

00:21:21.000 I mean, he can hit you and get you and pop you and drop you and back you up and do all those good stuff and make you look bad.

00:21:29.000 And I think, you know, he's just...

00:21:34.000 People, you know, fault him for not, you know, when he hit it, you know, it hurt.

00:21:40.000 Yeah, well, he always had hand problems.

00:21:42.000 He had multiple hand breaks.

00:21:45.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 Which was very unfortunate.

00:21:47.000 But that also probably contributed to how skillful he was because he couldn't get guys out with one shot.

00:21:51.000 So he had to just always be in the right spot, piece you up, hit and not get hit.

00:21:57.000 Just the way he did it standing in front of people, I don't think folks understand how hard that is to do.

00:22:02.000 It's so crazy.

00:22:03.000 Yeah, it's almost like magic.

00:22:08.000 It's almost like magic.

00:22:12.000 You're standing there and you're saying, come on, come with your best shot, and you can't get it.

00:22:17.000 You can't land it.

00:22:18.000 How?

00:22:19.000 Why?

00:22:19.000 Why can't I land this shot?

00:22:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:22.000 Everybody thinks they can too.

00:22:24.000 That's what's interesting.

00:22:25.000 Yes.

00:22:25.000 Especially in this whole promo tour he's doing where he's just running around doing these exhibitions.

00:22:31.000 They all think, I could probably land a shot.

00:22:34.000 No.

00:22:35.000 He's 46. Nah.

00:22:38.000 They're talking about him fighting Pacquiao.

00:22:40.000 About them doing it again.

00:22:42.000 I'd watch that.

00:22:44.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 I mean, hell yeah.

00:22:46.000 Fuck yeah.

00:22:47.000 I don't think age should...

00:22:55.000 Really keep you from checking out somebody you know who's a master.

00:23:00.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 Especially if he's fighting someone his age.

00:23:02.000 Yeah.

00:23:03.000 It's two masters going at it.

00:23:06.000 And age is just a number.

00:23:11.000 It's really just a number.

00:23:12.000 It's not reality.

00:23:15.000 Reality is how you feel.

00:23:19.000 It's a saying, if you didn't know how old you were, would you know how old you are?

00:23:25.000 Mmm.

00:23:26.000 Some people would.

00:23:28.000 It's an indicator of how well your body's functioning.

00:23:31.000 It's a pretty good indicator, though.

00:23:32.000 Like if you said someone wants a fight and they're 60, you go...

00:23:35.000 60?

00:23:37.000 Yeah.

00:23:38.000 60's too old.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, you know, it's too old to see fast skills.

00:23:44.000 But have you ever seen an old man fight?

00:23:46.000 It's pretty interesting, you know?

00:23:48.000 A couple of old dudes, you know what I mean?

00:23:50.000 I've seen on the internet a couple of old dudes get at it, and it's fun.

00:23:55.000 You know, one round get down?

00:23:57.000 Yeah, you know, it's like, we got the 60-year-olds with the one round get down.

00:24:01.000 We're going to go as long as they can before they fall out.

00:24:03.000 You get fucked up as a 60-year-old, though, you don't recover.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:24:08.000 You get your ass kicked as a 60-year-old, you might be fucked for the rest of your life.

00:24:11.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 You're risking a lot.

00:24:13.000 Yeah.

00:24:13.000 Some people would do it, though, you know?

00:24:15.000 I've seen some guys that are young that got fucked up that were never the same.

00:24:19.000 You know, it's the roughest way to make a dollar in sports.

00:24:27.000 The roughest.

00:24:28.000 And UFC even take it to another notch because, you know, somebody can kick your mouth open.

00:24:35.000 Kick your jaw open.

00:24:36.000 Knee you in the face.

00:24:37.000 Elbow you in the eye socket.

00:24:39.000 Yeah.

00:24:39.000 Or just, you know what I mean, you know, pull your shit out of socket.

00:24:44.000 Yeah.

00:24:47.000 It's a rough game.

00:24:48.000 It is.

00:24:49.000 It's a rough game, you know.

00:24:51.000 Tap out, baby.

00:24:52.000 Tap out.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, it's just, but it's the most exciting thing to watch.

00:24:58.000 Combat sports to me is just like, man, when you watch like a world title fight, there's very few things.

00:25:03.000 Whether it's boxing or MMA, like when Terence Crawford's gonna fight Earl Spence.

00:25:08.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 That fight is going to be crazy.

00:25:11.000 Yeah, man.

00:25:12.000 That is a crazy moment where you got two undefeated champions in their prime.

00:25:17.000 Yes.

00:25:18.000 And no one knows what's gonna happen.

00:25:19.000 You're like, I don't know.

00:25:20.000 Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

00:25:23.000 You know, sometimes those fights, they're just too skilled.

00:25:29.000 You know, have you ever seen guys just fight?

00:25:31.000 They're too skilled and they're just both missing because they can't hit each other because they both got the skills, you know?

00:25:37.000 And they don't want to take too many chances and open up.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, so hopefully it's not one of them.

00:25:43.000 You know, hopefully it's one of those, they take it personal from the first couple of rounds and Yeah, I can't imagine.

00:25:51.000 Terrence Crawford's never been in a boring fight ever.

00:25:53.000 Neither has Earl Spence.

00:25:54.000 I think they're going to go after each other.

00:25:56.000 Well, they know how to tattoo their opponent, so I can imagine them just tattooing each other, you know, back and forth.

00:26:04.000 Yeah, I'm interested to see how Terence, what stance he uses too.

00:26:09.000 Because he, in my opinion, he's the best switch hitter since Marvin Hagler.

00:26:14.000 Nobody switches like Terence.

00:26:16.000 Terence is just, he's southpaw, then he's orthodox, and is just as good from both sides.

00:26:20.000 And you gotta do all this calculating in the middle of the fight and switch it up.

00:26:24.000 Everything's coming from a different angle now.

00:26:26.000 Yeah, your brain is not moving as fast as it should be.

00:26:31.000 That's such a big advantage.

00:26:32.000 The body can't move that fast if your brain is thinking so much.

00:26:36.000 It should be instincts.

00:26:38.000 But yeah, it's going to be an amazing fight.

00:26:41.000 And I'm worried a little bit about Earl.

00:26:43.000 He's been in those car accidents.

00:26:45.000 Was it one?

00:26:46.000 The Ferrari.

00:26:47.000 That's a crazy car accident.

00:26:49.000 He could have died in that 100%.

00:26:50.000 If he didn't have a seatbelt...

00:26:52.000 I mean, he wasn't wearing a seatbelt, but if he was wearing a seatbelt, he might be dead.

00:26:55.000 If he was wearing one?

00:26:56.000 Yeah, he got thrown from the Ferrari.

00:26:59.000 He was in a convertible.

00:27:00.000 Have you seen it?

00:27:01.000 No, I haven't seen the car.

00:27:03.000 Have you seen the video?

00:27:04.000 I haven't seen the video.

00:27:05.000 Oh shit, watch this.

00:27:06.000 This video is crazy.

00:27:07.000 Here it goes.

00:27:08.000 Wow!

00:27:10.000 Yeah, so he got thrown out of the car, and that's how he survived.

00:27:16.000 I didn't know it was like that.

00:27:18.000 Yeah.

00:27:18.000 Jeez.

00:27:19.000 Dude, 100% could have been dead.

00:27:22.000 Yes.

00:27:23.000 100%.

00:27:23.000 I mean, that was a terrible accident.

00:27:25.000 It's hard to say that you 100%.

00:27:29.000 I mean, he rolled like five, six, seven times.

00:27:31.000 Look at that card.

00:27:32.000 If he wasn't a master athlete, could he have survived that?

00:27:37.000 And who knows what happened to him when he survived, right?

00:27:39.000 Did he hit his head?

00:27:41.000 Did he hit his neck?

00:27:43.000 Is he okay?

00:27:44.000 Is he 100%?

00:27:45.000 Or is he always going to be a little fuck from that?

00:27:48.000 There's another angle?

00:27:49.000 Wow.

00:27:50.000 Jesus.

00:27:51.000 Oh my God.

00:27:52.000 That's one of the most horrific ones I've seen.

00:27:55.000 But he was okay.

00:27:57.000 That's good.

00:27:58.000 Amazing.

00:27:59.000 Because a talent like that, to take that guy at a young age is so horrible.

00:28:04.000 Yes.

00:28:05.000 Yes.

00:28:05.000 It would be devastating.

00:28:09.000 Give these dudes money.

00:28:10.000 You could just go buy one of those cars.

00:28:12.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:28:13.000 You could just go buy a 700-horsepower car.

00:28:16.000 You don't even know how to drive.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:18.000 You just have money.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, I know.

00:28:20.000 There was a trip because I remember being at the studio, Echo Sound one time, and Tupac came.

00:28:28.000 He pulled up and, like, Benz.

00:28:30.000 I was like, oh, man, Pac, you got your Benz.

00:28:33.000 He's like, yep, I don't have my license, man.

00:28:35.000 I hope I don't wreck it.

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:37.000 I'm like, damn!

00:28:38.000 Man, park that car, man.

00:28:40.000 You don't know how to drive it?

00:28:42.000 He's like, nah, man.

00:28:42.000 I've been in New York, man, for so long.

00:28:45.000 Don't worry about driving.

00:28:46.000 I'm like, oh.

00:28:48.000 You know, I think he did wreck it a few times, you know what I'm saying, before it was all said and done.

00:28:53.000 Learning how to drive.

00:28:54.000 First car is the Benz.

00:28:56.000 Yeah, Benz, you know.

00:28:57.000 It was like 500. What was the first thing you bought when you started making money?

00:29:02.000 Oh, man, the first thing I bought...

00:29:04.000 Like the first car?

00:29:08.000 Man, I bought a Honda Accord.

00:29:12.000 I bought a Honda Accord, you know.

00:29:15.000 They had just come out with a new model.

00:29:17.000 It was about 20 G's.

00:29:20.000 And I was like, you know, I'm sick of rolling around here.

00:29:24.000 You know, at first I had like a sidekick, you know, a Suzuki sidekick.

00:29:30.000 Suzuki made cars.

00:29:32.000 I remember those.

00:29:33.000 And I was like, man, I need some luxury.

00:29:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:36.000 I'm starting to make money.

00:29:38.000 You know, let's go down here and get this Honda Accord.

00:29:42.000 Kim, she's my wife, but she was my girlfriend at the time.

00:29:45.000 So we went down there.

00:29:46.000 Place on, I think it was La Cienega.

00:29:48.000 They had a Honda spot.

00:29:50.000 And I just went in there and bought a black Honda Accord.

00:29:53.000 Cash!

00:29:54.000 Wow.

00:29:55.000 Yeah.

00:29:56.000 That's a pretty reasonable car.

00:29:58.000 But you didn't go crazy.

00:30:00.000 I only had 20 Gs, so...

00:30:03.000 If I'd have had 40, I'd have bought, you know, probably a BMW, you know what I mean?

00:30:07.000 Three series or something.

00:30:09.000 So, you know, at the time, it was the first cool thing I was able to buy and not sweat it.

00:30:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:17.000 Like, that's the key is to buy it and not sweat it.

00:30:20.000 Right.

00:30:21.000 You know, if you're buying it and you're sweating it still, you're like, damn.

00:30:25.000 I remember one day, I remember Dre and Yella, they got checks.

00:30:29.000 I think they got checks for like $35,000.

00:30:33.000 Next thing I seen them, they both had vets, I think.

00:30:36.000 Corvettes.

00:30:37.000 And I was like, how much did you pay?

00:30:38.000 $31,000.

00:30:38.000 How much did you pay for yours?

00:30:40.000 $33,000.

00:30:41.000 I'm like, y'all broke now.

00:30:46.000 So what?

00:30:47.000 We look good.

00:30:49.000 It's funny, but that's the temptation, you know?

00:30:53.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, you...

00:30:55.000 Man, you only live once.

00:30:59.000 And we know a lot of people that die young.

00:31:03.000 And so it's kind of like, get it while getting is good.

00:31:08.000 Yeah.

00:31:09.000 It's also you're young.

00:31:10.000 When you're young, when I first started making money, my manager thought I had a gambling problem.

00:31:15.000 Yeah.

00:31:16.000 He called me up and said, are you having a gambling problem?

00:31:18.000 Because he knew how much money I was burning through.

00:31:20.000 I go, no, man, I'm eating lobster every night.

00:31:24.000 I grew up poor.

00:31:25.000 I'm like, I'm eating steak and lobster.

00:31:27.000 I'm taking my friends out.

00:31:28.000 I'm spending money.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what you do, you know, and it feels good.

00:31:34.000 Yeah, it feels good.

00:31:35.000 It feels good to finally be able to treat and not, you know, worry about what it's going to look like.

00:31:42.000 That's the big thing is the worry.

00:31:43.000 I remember the first check I got, I got a check from Disney for a development deal from Disney in like 1993. And when I got the check, it was like weight lifted off my shoulders.

00:31:53.000 It was like, whew.

00:31:55.000 I could look at my bank account and go, I got money in the bank account.

00:31:59.000 I could pay the bills.

00:32:01.000 I don't have to think about the bills right now.

00:32:02.000 It was like I was lighter.

00:32:05.000 Without a doubt.

00:32:06.000 I mean, it does weigh on you when you don't know exactly where the money's going to come from.

00:32:14.000 You know, the bill's here.

00:32:16.000 You know when you got to pay it, but you really don't know exactly how it's all going to come together.

00:32:21.000 You know, you hope the universe bless you with an opportunity.

00:32:27.000 And so to not have that worry, it is a weight lifted off, you know.

00:32:33.000 And I wish more people could feel...

00:32:37.000 The weight lifted off.

00:32:38.000 But there's another thing.

00:32:41.000 The more you make, the more you spend.

00:32:43.000 So sometimes the weight comes back on.

00:32:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:48.000 The weight comes back on.

00:32:49.000 And then you have employees, and that's another weight.

00:32:52.000 That's a different weight.

00:32:53.000 That's like you think about other people's families.

00:32:55.000 Yes.

00:32:56.000 You're making money for them, too.

00:32:58.000 Yeah.

00:33:00.000 That's why I don't do nothing crazy.

00:33:03.000 I'm not into skydiving or nothing like that.

00:33:07.000 I'm definitely not going down in no damn submarine to look for more Titanic.

00:33:13.000 I don't take those crazy chances because I got generations depending on me.

00:33:23.000 And so, you know, got to take that responsibility serious because you never know when others in my family bloodline or whatever are going to be able to have the opportunities that I have, you know.

00:33:39.000 Even though my son, O'Shea Jr., you know, he's working constantly.

00:33:44.000 He's in Spain right now.

00:33:46.000 Yeah, he is.

00:33:46.000 That's amazing that he's just carrying on.

00:33:50.000 That's beautiful.

00:33:50.000 It is.

00:33:51.000 That must make you very proud.

00:33:52.000 Man, it's like the best.

00:33:54.000 One guy asked me, you know, how does it feel seeing your son, you know, straight out of Compton?

00:34:01.000 And, you know, he does so well.

00:34:04.000 I said, it's like winning the Super Bowl on a team, and then your son comes and wins the Super Bowl for that same team.

00:34:17.000 That's the feeling.

00:34:18.000 I don't know if anybody has ever had that feeling, but it seems like that's how I feel.

00:34:24.000 It's like I won with NWA and he won with NWA. That's amazing.

00:34:33.000 And what a perfect person to play.

00:34:36.000 Who would be better to play you?

00:34:38.000 Exactly.

00:34:39.000 It's perfect.

00:34:40.000 I mean...

00:34:42.000 Before he, you know, decided to take the movie, you know, I would take him on tour with me and we would do...

00:34:50.000 We was doing that anyway.

00:34:52.000 He would jump on stage.

00:34:53.000 He would do Dope Man.

00:34:54.000 And, you know, I'm like, yo, this is my son, you know.

00:34:57.000 And I'm like, man, he...

00:35:00.000 He got that swagger up here.

00:35:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:02.000 Remind me of a young me.

00:35:04.000 Okay, so when it was time to do the movie, when it was really a go, I went to him and I said, hey man, this NWA movie looked like it's gonna go.

00:35:17.000 He was like, cool, man.

00:35:18.000 That's good.

00:35:19.000 Good luck, man.

00:35:19.000 That's great.

00:35:20.000 I'm like, hold on.

00:35:22.000 Hold on.

00:35:23.000 I said, I want you to play me.

00:35:28.000 He was like, Okay.

00:35:31.000 And I'm like, wow.

00:35:33.000 That was too easy.

00:35:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:35.000 That was like, you know, that was, he was like, okay.

00:35:38.000 And he just kept on walking.

00:35:39.000 I'm like, wait a minute.

00:35:41.000 And then I said, I gotta see if he's serious or he's just, you know, saying okay, just to say okay.

00:35:48.000 But it's a hell of a lot of work.

00:35:50.000 So I started putting him through the ringer a little bit.

00:35:56.000 You know, I was like, Hey man, we got an acting coach for you.

00:36:02.000 You know, LA, you need to go down there on Thursday.

00:36:05.000 You know, you need to be there at this time and that.

00:36:06.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:36:08.000 He's like, oh, all right, all right.

00:36:09.000 And he would go.

00:36:11.000 And I'm like, okay, he's starting to go.

00:36:14.000 But is he just going?

00:36:15.000 Is he participating?

00:36:16.000 Is he into it?

00:36:17.000 You know, boom.

00:36:19.000 So I said, I'm going to try something else.

00:36:21.000 I sent him to New York to a guy for, you know, training, acting.

00:36:29.000 I'm like, I'm sitting all the way to New York to see if he'll do that.

00:36:32.000 Because that's when he'll bail and be like...

00:36:36.000 I got something to do.

00:36:37.000 So he got on the plane, flew to New York, worked with his cat, flew back.

00:36:45.000 Now when he flew back, I was checking him out, seeing what he was doing.

00:36:51.000 You know, we was far from actually casting a movie at that time.

00:36:54.000 And then he was like, he came up, he was like, I'm gonna go work with my coach today.

00:37:00.000 I'm like, what?

00:37:01.000 He said, yeah, me and my acting coach, we're going to get together.

00:37:03.000 We're going to do a couple of things.

00:37:05.000 I'm like, he's into it.

00:37:07.000 He's into it.

00:37:09.000 Yeah.

00:37:11.000 So then I let him do that.

00:37:13.000 So now I have to approach Gary Gray.

00:37:15.000 Now, Gary Gray is the director of Straight Outta Compton.

00:37:18.000 He also directed Friday and he directed It Was A Good Day.

00:37:23.000 You know, these are some of my biggest projects.

00:37:26.000 And when I told him He was like, yeah, man, it's cool, you know.

00:37:30.000 He was just thinking about who we gonna get to play him.

00:37:33.000 I said, okay, guess who I want to play Ice Cube?

00:37:36.000 He was like, who, who, who?

00:37:38.000 I said, my son.

00:37:40.000 He was like, ah.

00:37:44.000 Cube.

00:37:45.000 I said, what the fuck, man?

00:37:47.000 I thought we was making a real movie, man.

00:37:50.000 I said, we are making a real movie.

00:37:57.000 What you talking about?

00:37:58.000 I said, he's going to be great, isn't it?

00:38:02.000 He's going to be great.

00:38:03.000 If you get the part, he'll have to audition and Universal will sign off on him.

00:38:09.000 But you're going to work with him, just like John Singleton worked with me.

00:38:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:14.000 John put me in Boys in the Hood.

00:38:16.000 I didn't act.

00:38:16.000 I wasn't no actor.

00:38:17.000 I was just a rapper.

00:38:19.000 And he saw something in me, put me in the movie, and he helped me through it.

00:38:24.000 And the rest is history.

00:38:25.000 And you're going to do the same thing.

00:38:29.000 So, make a long story short.

00:38:32.000 It's audition time.

00:38:34.000 Screen test time.

00:38:36.000 Now, my son go in there and he said he got pissed off because there's five other fucking ice cubes there to audition.

00:38:47.000 Yeah.

00:38:48.000 He's like, these dudes think they're about to take this?

00:38:51.000 He said, man, I felt like I had the family name on my back.

00:38:55.000 I had to go in there and house this shit.

00:38:58.000 And he said, you know, when he left the screen test, Donna Langley from Universal called me.

00:39:07.000 And it was like, your son was great.

00:39:08.000 He was actually the best one, and we're gonna sign off on it.

00:39:12.000 Wow.

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 It's cool.

00:39:15.000 Cool story.

00:39:15.000 That's a great story.

00:39:17.000 It's a great story the way you made him do it, too.

00:39:19.000 That's so smart.

00:39:20.000 He worked harder than any of the other actors.

00:39:22.000 Like two years of...

00:39:24.000 Grinding.

00:39:25.000 Because, you know, the coach's son always, he get it the worst.

00:39:30.000 Right.

00:39:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:31.000 Yeah.

00:39:32.000 And it was no different on this movie.

00:39:36.000 Of course.

00:39:36.000 I had to make sure that he won and he set up himself for a career in this game.

00:39:44.000 That's amazing.

00:39:46.000 That's amazing.

00:39:47.000 Your career, one of the things that's so fascinating about your career is there was never anyone like you before that did what you did.

00:39:56.000 You went from gangster rap to family movies.

00:40:01.000 Yeah.

00:40:02.000 Like, no one's ever done that.

00:40:04.000 And then, sports entertainment.

00:40:06.000 Like, you branched out into so many things, but the key part of it that people need to understand today is when you guys came out, when NWA came out, the whole world went, what the fuck?!

00:40:19.000 Yes.

00:40:19.000 The whole world.

00:40:20.000 I remember I was in Revere, Massachusetts.

00:40:22.000 I was on an elliptical machine at the gym.

00:40:25.000 And a friend of mine told me, you gotta listen to this shit.

00:40:27.000 And I had a cassette Walkman.

00:40:29.000 Yeah.

00:40:29.000 So I'm there with a cassette Walkman on an elliptical machine, listening to Straight Outta Compton, going, holy shit.

00:40:37.000 Like, this is wild.

00:40:38.000 There was nothing like that before that.

00:40:40.000 And I remember, like, laughing while I was riding the elliptical.

00:40:43.000 I'm like, these guys are out of their fucking minds.

00:40:46.000 This is crazy.

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 And then there was like the Tipper Gore shit where Al Gore's wife was trying to censor rap music.

00:40:55.000 The PMRC, Parents Resources Against Music Council or something like that.

00:41:01.000 Ugh.

00:41:02.000 And, um...

00:41:03.000 That was the Democrats, folks.

00:41:05.000 That's the reason you have an advisory sticker on the record.

00:41:10.000 Because that was the compromise.

00:41:12.000 They were saying, you know, I sent my daughter To the record store to buy a record.

00:41:21.000 She came home with the fucking two live crew.

00:41:24.000 I know this shit was gonna be like this.

00:41:27.000 You know, so, you know, the compromise from the record industry was we'll put a parental advisory sticker.

00:41:40.000 On the record.

00:41:41.000 So if a parent was buying a record for Christmas, you know, their parents was like, I want Too Short.

00:41:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:49.000 They go buy the Too Short record, put it in, and they're like, what the hell?

00:41:53.000 So we were the first group to put that sticker on our records.

00:41:59.000 We were the very first group.

00:42:01.000 Wow.

00:42:04.000 Priority Records designed that parental advisory sticker.

00:42:10.000 Yep, that sticker.

00:42:12.000 And it was actually, it had to be stuck on a record, like a sticker.

00:42:19.000 And they had to go through all our records in every record store and put the sticker on.

00:42:25.000 So the next time we did artwork, we just planted it in the artwork.

00:42:30.000 Wow.

00:42:31.000 And then kids wouldn't buy your shit if it didn't have the sticker.

00:42:36.000 It's like people was putting the sticker on clean records.

00:42:41.000 That's hilarious.

00:42:42.000 It's like a clean record, not one ounce of profanity on it, but they was putting the parental advisory because kids was looking at it and it was like, where's the sticker?

00:42:51.000 That's the opposite effect.

00:42:53.000 It promotes it.

00:42:54.000 Yes, that's exactly what happened and promoted it.

00:42:58.000 Two Live Crew was the first band that got arrested though, right?

00:43:01.000 Weren't they the first band that got arrested?

00:43:04.000 On stage, I believe.

00:43:06.000 I'm not sure.

00:43:08.000 Rap got a long history.

00:43:10.000 I don't know if somebody tackled Cool Herc or somebody.

00:43:15.000 But that's the one that went nationwide news and yeah, he got arrested.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, Luke fought for all of our freedom of speech, to be honest.

00:43:31.000 You know, if they would have took Luke down and the 2 Live crew at the time and said that this music is too obscene and you can't sell stuff like this, you know, Everything would probably be so sterile right now.

00:43:48.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:43:50.000 That's the same thing with Howard Stern and radio.

00:43:53.000 Yes.

00:43:53.000 They went after Howard Stern.

00:43:54.000 They fined them insane amounts of money for the Howard Stern show.

00:43:59.000 Yes, I remember.

00:44:00.000 And if he just folded and gave into that, there'd probably be no podcasts.

00:44:04.000 Or it would have taken a lot longer for people to figure this out.

00:44:07.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 It's incredible when When you stand up at the moment of truth, it's important for us to stand up at the time that is going on and not back down and then try to regroup and then go at it.

00:44:32.000 It's really important.

00:44:34.000 It is.

00:44:35.000 For people to stand up for themselves.

00:44:37.000 But it's hard.

00:44:38.000 Yes.

00:44:39.000 It's hard today more than ever because you get so much pressure.

00:44:42.000 People, like, especially during COVID, people ganged up on people.

00:44:46.000 People were doing the man's work for the man.

00:44:49.000 It's like, who the fuck are you trusting?

00:44:51.000 Like, why are you trusting these people that have been lying forever?

00:44:54.000 Yeah, man.

00:44:55.000 It was wild during that time.

00:44:58.000 Like, you know, people...

00:45:05.000 Being bullied into doing things that they didn't want to do.

00:45:10.000 A lot of them didn't want to do it.

00:45:12.000 They did it because of their work or their situations.

00:45:19.000 A lot of them are hurting right now.

00:45:22.000 I know a guy that's been dealing with tinnitus since he got it.

00:45:34.000 I know a lot of people that got fucked up.

00:45:37.000 I know quite a few people that got fucked up.

00:45:40.000 Some of them pretty bad.

00:45:42.000 It's just, it was just, there was, if you wanted to do it in a textbook way, like if it was a conspiracy, that's how I would do it.

00:45:51.000 I'd isolate people, make them stay at home, take away their livelihood, make them scared, give them small checks, you know, and then give them this thing that you gotta take to get back to normal.

00:46:00.000 Wanna get back to normal?

00:46:01.000 Yeah.

00:46:01.000 Go take that.

00:46:02.000 Don't worry.

00:46:03.000 It's safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective.

00:46:06.000 And then you have all this pressure and everyone is yelling at you if you don't do it.

00:46:11.000 If you don't do it, we're not gonna get back to normal.

00:46:13.000 And everybody got scared and everybody just stepped in line.

00:46:17.000 It was strange.

00:46:19.000 It's strange.

00:46:20.000 Yeah, it was.

00:46:24.000 You know, stepping in line sometimes is not the way to go.

00:46:29.000 No, it's not always the way to go.

00:46:31.000 You know, you're trying to prevent and trying to make things all smooth and easy and no issues and back to normal and all that.

00:46:44.000 The world might be back to normal, but are you normal?

00:46:48.000 Well, you got to be able to make informed decisions.

00:46:50.000 Yes.

00:46:51.000 And when you can't make an informed decision, you're being pressured anyway.

00:46:54.000 It's like, how long?

00:46:56.000 And this is the thing that was driving me crazy.

00:46:59.000 Before the election, When Donald Trump was president, all they were talking about is, I'm not going to take the shot.

00:47:06.000 You're going to take a shot that Trump made?

00:47:08.000 Who's going to take that shot?

00:47:09.000 Even Biden was saying it.

00:47:11.000 Who's going to take it?

00:47:12.000 Kamala Harris is saying it.

00:47:13.000 They were all saying it.

00:47:14.000 Don't take that.

00:47:14.000 I would never take that.

00:47:15.000 And then all of a sudden, Biden becomes president, and they're like, you've got to take it.

00:47:19.000 Is this the same thing?

00:47:20.000 This is the same thing.

00:47:21.000 You know how long it takes to develop a vaccine?

00:47:23.000 This is the same vaccine.

00:47:24.000 Same one.

00:47:25.000 You guys were just talking shit.

00:47:26.000 And, you know, no matter who tried to give it to you at the end of the day, it wasn't ready.

00:47:33.000 It's not ready.

00:47:34.000 You know, six months to try to turn this thing into something effective that was totally, you know...

00:47:44.000 Experimental.

00:47:45.000 Totally experimental.

00:47:47.000 And everybody who took it was basically signing up to take an experimental drug.

00:47:58.000 And I'm not anti-vax.

00:47:59.000 I've been vaxed before.

00:48:01.000 Me too.

00:48:01.000 I've had vaccines.

00:48:03.000 I've had all of them.

00:48:04.000 Everyone I was supposed to get.

00:48:05.000 Exactly.

00:48:06.000 But those have been, some have been around 80 years, some have been around 50, 40 years.

00:48:15.000 And I just wasn't comfortable after six months.

00:48:19.000 I was ready to take it.

00:48:20.000 The UFC allocated 150 vaccines, I think, for all their employees.

00:48:25.000 And this was when we were doing shows during the lockdowns.

00:48:27.000 So we'd go.

00:48:28.000 There was a COVID bubble.

00:48:29.000 You'd get tested.

00:48:30.000 You'd get tested the day of the event.

00:48:31.000 And I was there, and they said, oh, we got the vaccines.

00:48:34.000 You want to take it?

00:48:35.000 I said, yeah.

00:48:35.000 So I called up the doctor.

00:48:37.000 I said, hey, man, can I take it?

00:48:38.000 And they said, yeah, hold on.

00:48:39.000 We'll set it up.

00:48:40.000 I was going to take it, like, before the show.

00:48:42.000 I thought it was just like a flu shot.

00:48:43.000 Give me that thing.

00:48:44.000 It's normal, right?

00:48:46.000 And they called me up, and they said, no, we can't do it until Monday.

00:48:49.000 It has to be done at the clinic.

00:48:51.000 Can you go on Monday?

00:48:52.000 I said, I can't.

00:48:53.000 I'd better be back for another event in two weeks.

00:48:55.000 Okay, we'll do it then.

00:48:57.000 And during that time, it got pulled.

00:48:59.000 During the time, it got pulled for blood clots and two guys I knew had strokes.

00:49:03.000 Wow.

00:49:03.000 Two guys I knew.

00:49:04.000 Wow.

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 Wow.

00:49:05.000 And then I was like, okay, what is going on?

00:49:07.000 And then my friend got it and got over it quick.

00:49:10.000 And I was like, what's going on?

00:49:11.000 My real estate lady had it and she didn't even have any symptoms.

00:49:14.000 She tested positive twice.

00:49:15.000 And she's like, well, I got to isolate, but I feel fine.

00:49:19.000 And I was like, what is this?

00:49:20.000 Is this a death sentence?

00:49:21.000 Or is this like, how many people are asymptomatic?

00:49:23.000 And you find out like 65% of the people are asymptomatic.

00:49:27.000 Like, what the fuck is going on here?

00:49:28.000 Yeah.

00:49:29.000 And then I knew some people that got in and got real sick.

00:49:32.000 But they were fat, or they were out of shape, or they had other problems.

00:49:36.000 And then I knew a few friends that were real healthy that got it.

00:49:39.000 They got wrecked because they didn't take it seriously and they kept working out.

00:49:42.000 So there was a lot of confusion.

00:49:43.000 Yes.

00:49:44.000 And, you know, it was a lot of fear.

00:49:46.000 But when I finally got it and I got over quick, and then they started attacking me for taking horse medication, I was like, what the fuck is going on?

00:49:54.000 Shouldn't you be more interested in the fact that this deadly disease hit this 55-year-old dude and he was better in three days?

00:50:01.000 Isn't that more interesting?

00:50:03.000 Like, why don't you ask what I took?

00:50:04.000 Like, why did I get better?

00:50:06.000 Yeah, I wasn't vaccinated.

00:50:09.000 Yeah, I wasn't vaccinated, but I got over it quick.

00:50:11.000 So what's wrong with that?

00:50:13.000 In any other fucking rational, sane world, when there's a disease and someone goes to a doctor and gets medication for that disease and gets better in three days, you go, oh, well, that's a way to get better from that disease.

00:50:26.000 It's not that this is one singular thing that you have to do that I can't even do now because I already have antibodies.

00:50:32.000 Like, this is stupid.

00:50:33.000 It's crazy.

00:50:34.000 And, you know, the thing is, is when money is the driving force, and, you know, I don't know if they can even get money off of what you took.

00:50:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:49.000 It seems like something that's been around for a long time.

00:50:52.000 That's just one of the things I took.

00:50:54.000 And there's no money in it.

00:50:57.000 No new money in it.

00:50:58.000 Yes, zero money in it.

00:50:59.000 So that's really what it's all about.

00:51:01.000 You know, it's not about if it worked or if it's effective.

00:51:04.000 It's about they can't make no money off of it and we got this new stuff that we can make billions.

00:51:10.000 So that's where the pressure comes from and that's why they're pushing it.

00:51:16.000 That's why you have to think for yourself because Money is driving these people to give you bad advice or give you the wrong advice or to hide.

00:51:31.000 um you know solutions and cures and remedies uh from you and and um you know you gotta once once you peep that out you have to take a step back and make sure that you're you're following the money to make sure it's not it's just so hard to do in the middle of a pandemic that's why it was so hard because everybody was just like locked in their house and scared Especially in California.

00:51:57.000 The attitude in California was so much different than the attitude here.

00:52:00.000 We came to Texas, I'm like, they only have some fucking masks on.

00:52:03.000 This is crazy.

00:52:04.000 They're just out normal.

00:52:05.000 Yeah, Cali, they went crazy with it.

00:52:08.000 You know, I was using the mask really as a disguise.

00:52:12.000 Yeah.

00:52:12.000 I can finally walk through here and nobody asks for a selfie.

00:52:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:18.000 Cool.

00:52:19.000 So, you know, I kind of like, I got the mask in my pocket for that, too.

00:52:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:24.000 Pop it on, go to the airport.

00:52:25.000 It's just a disguise now.

00:52:27.000 Yeah.

00:52:28.000 Well, finally, you can wear a mask.

00:52:30.000 Yeah.

00:52:31.000 Any other time.

00:52:31.000 That's what I tripped off, too.

00:52:33.000 I was like, they letting all these people stand around in these stores, walking through these stores with their face covered.

00:52:38.000 Yeah.

00:52:39.000 And banks.

00:52:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:41.000 When is a guy just going to pull out a pistol?

00:52:44.000 I don't know.

00:52:44.000 They all have masks.

00:52:45.000 We don't know who it was.

00:52:47.000 Who's that masked man?

00:52:48.000 Well, it's happening so often in New York City.

00:52:50.000 They made people take their masks down when they went into stores.

00:52:53.000 They made that a rule so that the camera can get a shot of your face.

00:52:57.000 Lord.

00:52:57.000 It's so stupid.

00:52:59.000 It's so stupid.

00:53:00.000 I'm supposed to keep this on to protect everybody.

00:53:03.000 Well, and then they found out real early that it didn't even work.

00:53:06.000 They knew early that those things were bullshit.

00:53:08.000 But it was a thing that would get you to comply with.

00:53:11.000 Yeah.

00:53:12.000 And it's also, you did it so you didn't feel like an asshole.

00:53:14.000 If everybody had a mask on, you didn't, you felt like an asshole.

00:53:17.000 It's like, ah, I'll put a mask on.

00:53:18.000 Yeah, and you know, people were looking at you like, you're the one spreading all the COVID around here, huh?

00:53:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:25.000 It was crazy.

00:53:27.000 Um, I knew a guy got sick wearing the mask.

00:53:32.000 Like, he had this cloth mask that he just felt it was the thing that was gonna protect him.

00:53:40.000 I'm like, dude, you're breathing in and like, wash that thing.

00:53:44.000 Yeah.

00:53:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:45.000 You're breathing that.

00:53:46.000 I don't know what you're breathing.

00:53:47.000 You're breathing in last week's...

00:53:50.000 Bad breath.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, Fatburger.

00:53:52.000 Like, dude.

00:53:54.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:54.000 Take that off your face.

00:53:56.000 Yeah, you wouldn't want that on a wound.

00:53:58.000 No.

00:53:58.000 Right?

00:53:59.000 A dirty-ass rag over a cut.

00:54:02.000 Yeah.

00:54:02.000 And you're breathing through it all day, every day.

00:54:05.000 Getting right in your bloodstream.

00:54:06.000 Yeah.

00:54:07.000 You're smoking weed through that thing, man.

00:54:08.000 Come on.

00:54:10.000 Take it off.

00:54:11.000 Yeah, it was just weird.

00:54:13.000 This is a weird time.

00:54:14.000 I saw that you would have to pass on a movie because they wanted you to get shot.

00:54:19.000 Yeah.

00:54:20.000 You know, they...

00:54:21.000 Strangest thing, you know.

00:54:25.000 Say, we're doing a movie, we're doing a movie.

00:54:27.000 I'm like, okay.

00:54:29.000 And then...

00:54:31.000 All the producers...

00:54:37.000 In Hollywood decided that they don't want anybody on their movie set that haven't gotten a vaccine.

00:54:47.000 And what year was this?

00:54:48.000 This is 2020. Okay, so it's in the middle of it.

00:54:52.000 Yeah.

00:54:53.000 I mean, we're coming out of it.

00:54:55.000 I think it might be 21 when we know, okay, everything is going back to normal.

00:55:00.000 But I believe the news came out during 2020. And so, you know, I never thought it was a producer's mandate.

00:55:12.000 You know, I thought it was a studio mandate.

00:55:15.000 But I think the studios really...

00:55:19.000 Wanted to have, you know, kind of a little out, so they put it on a producer.

00:55:23.000 Like, this is not us.

00:55:24.000 This is this production, that production, this production, that production.

00:55:29.000 I'm like, but it's every production.

00:55:31.000 So you mean to tell me every producer in Hollywood has this mandate?

00:55:36.000 Give me a break.

00:55:38.000 It has to come from the studio to hit every producer, because every producer don't think the same.

00:55:43.000 Some producers had their own different opinions.

00:55:48.000 So anyway, it was a studio mandate.

00:55:50.000 They put it on individual producers.

00:55:56.000 Producers talking to my people, and they're like, if he don't take it, you know, he can't be in the movie.

00:56:03.000 It's like, he's not taking it.

00:56:04.000 It's not taking it.

00:56:05.000 It's like, okay, can't do the movie.

00:56:07.000 Okay, no problem.

00:56:09.000 Now, I didn't go out telling everybody what happened.

00:56:14.000 I didn't put the word out.

00:56:18.000 I didn't even tell people that I wasn't vaccinated.

00:56:21.000 I didn't tell people not to go get vaccinated.

00:56:24.000 I didn't tell people that I'm not doing this movie because I don't want to be vaccinated.

00:56:29.000 But somehow, someway, the news hit the...

00:56:34.000 I don't know if the Hollywood Reporter or somebody put it out that...

00:56:39.000 This is why Cube is not doing the movie.

00:56:42.000 And I thought it was chicken shit.

00:56:45.000 I thought it was, you know, it's like, what happened to the HIPAA laws?

00:56:50.000 You know, or OSHA, one of them, I forgot, I think it's HIPAA, you know, where you're not supposed to reveal a person's medical status.

00:57:00.000 And here it is, they print in mine.

00:57:03.000 And so I just thought it was bullshit and it just kind of snowballed, you know.

00:57:11.000 I'm like, what they want is for people to tell me I'm stupid.

00:57:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:17.000 They want people to tell me...

00:57:19.000 You turning down $9 million, you stupid.

00:57:24.000 You know, I'll do anything for $9 million.

00:57:26.000 How stupid can Q be?

00:57:29.000 And I don't care about that.

00:57:31.000 You know, it's like, I didn't lose $9 million.

00:57:35.000 Because I never had it.

00:57:36.000 Like, if you never have some shit, you can't lose it.

00:57:39.000 Okay?

00:57:40.000 You lose it when it's in your bank account, then you look up and it's gone.

00:57:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:44.000 But if you never had it, I didn't lose it.

00:57:47.000 It just was never given to me.

00:57:49.000 And so, you know, they tried to, you know, put my business in the street.

00:57:56.000 Put pressure on me, everybody around me telling me how stupid I am so I can go get vaxxed and say, you know, please let me do the movie.

00:58:04.000 You know, that was never going to happen.

00:58:05.000 I don't care if it was 20 million.

00:58:09.000 That was never going to happen.

00:58:11.000 And if you got injured from that vaccine, you would have paid that $20 million to be healthy again.

00:58:16.000 Damn right.

00:58:17.000 Damn right.

00:58:18.000 Yeah.

00:58:18.000 Damn right.

00:58:18.000 There's a lot of people out there that wish they weren't forced into making that decision.

00:58:22.000 And that's where the real lawsuits are going to come from.

00:58:25.000 The real lawsuits, since you can't sue the vaccine companies, they're going to start suing these businesses, and they're already lining up.

00:58:30.000 Without a doubt.

00:58:31.000 Without a doubt.

00:58:32.000 It was a gigantic error.

00:58:34.000 And they're...

00:58:36.000 You know, they fired a lot of people.

00:58:38.000 You know, I think they fired a lot of cops in New York.

00:58:43.000 And they had to hire them back.

00:58:45.000 And give them back pay.

00:58:47.000 And give them back pay.

00:58:48.000 But what about the ones that were injured that took the vax?

00:58:52.000 You know, they got to have some kind of repercussion because, you know, They just proved that...

00:59:01.000 They just kind of told on themselves that we got this wrong.

00:59:04.000 Yeah.

00:59:05.000 And nobody wants to talk about it.

00:59:06.000 That's the crazy thing.

00:59:08.000 Because all the news stories...

00:59:09.000 Nobody can.

00:59:09.000 You know, that's what I'm talking about.

00:59:11.000 The gatekeepers.

00:59:13.000 Nobody can talk about it because somebody above them told them no.

00:59:19.000 From this outlet, that outlet...

00:59:22.000 You know, the NBA... Going back to that, you know, I'm just...

00:59:28.000 Kind of putting it in perspective, but the guys in the NBA used to talk about the big three.

00:59:33.000 If you go back to year one, all the time.

00:59:37.000 And then they just stop.

00:59:39.000 And then I ask my guy, you know, what happened, man?

00:59:44.000 Why y'all stop?

00:59:46.000 They told us we couldn't mention the Big Three anymore on air.

00:59:52.000 So, I'm like, that's chicken shit.

00:59:55.000 You know, that's that bullshit that I'm talking about.

00:59:59.000 That, you know, I'm talking about what happened to me, but it obviously happens everywhere to all of us.

01:00:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:09.000 And we gotta somehow, someway, get these people out of our way.

01:00:15.000 Or not support what they're doing and producing.

01:00:23.000 You know, some of these mainstream outlets are really just...

01:00:29.000 An extension of these corporate conglomerates who want to, you know, kind of control our emotions, control our movement, control our spinning, control our personalities,

01:00:47.000 control our mind.

01:00:51.000 And, you know, what we gonna do about it, like, at the end of the day?

01:00:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:56.000 Like, we gonna just sit here and Let it happen day after day till we're steamrolled and wore out and have no fight in us.

01:01:13.000 Or are we going to stand up where we can?

01:01:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:18.000 And push back when we can.

01:01:20.000 I know everybody can't in all situations.

01:01:22.000 And don't feel bad when you can't.

01:01:25.000 But when you can and you know you can't.

01:01:28.000 Do it.

01:01:28.000 Yes.

01:01:29.000 Do it.

01:01:30.000 When you have the leverage, take it.

01:01:34.000 Take it.

01:01:35.000 UFC, when you got the leverage, you gotta go.

01:01:38.000 Use that to your advantage.

01:01:40.000 You might not always have the leverage.

01:01:42.000 You might not always have the right timing.

01:01:47.000 But when you can, we gotta buck back.

01:01:55.000 If not, we're just gonna continue to get steamrolled and Not be heard and cancelled and all this kind of stupid stuff.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, we're just repeating patterns that have played out throughout history.

01:02:07.000 Yes.

01:02:08.000 When people get power, they want to have ultimate power.

01:02:10.000 They want more power.

01:02:12.000 Any obstructions they see to their goals, any things that people were doing that would get in the way, they want to silence that, stop that.

01:02:21.000 They want to bust unions.

01:02:23.000 They want to do whatever the fuck they can to consolidate their power.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, and at a certain point, it's just ridiculous.

01:02:31.000 It was not good for us.

01:02:33.000 These are some of the most unhappy people in the world who are just consigned with more and more power, and they're powerful.

01:02:42.000 Whenever you saw a guy who was maxing out, You know, bench pressing or whatever and blew out her shoulder.

01:02:55.000 Lunchtimes.

01:02:57.000 It's like, you was maxed out the last time you maxed out.

01:03:01.000 Why are you trying to max out even more and more and more and more and then you blow out your shoulder?

01:03:07.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:03:08.000 So, at a certain point, you got to know when you got enough of this and enough of that.

01:03:14.000 I think the money people, though, they never think that way because it's all about numbers.

01:03:19.000 Like, the whole thing is numbers.

01:03:20.000 It's not like, look, I put out a new album.

01:03:23.000 Look, I put out a new movie.

01:03:24.000 I'm creating a thing.

01:03:26.000 I'm putting together stuff.

01:03:27.000 For them, it's always numbers.

01:03:29.000 It's all numbers.

01:03:29.000 It's just numbers.

01:03:30.000 And so you never feel satisfied.

01:03:32.000 And there's always a guy with a bigger jet.

01:03:33.000 There's always a guy with a bigger house.

01:03:35.000 There's always a guy with more of this, more of that.

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:39.000 Yeah.

01:03:40.000 And usually, you know, you can find happier people with way, way, way less.

01:03:46.000 Way less.

01:03:48.000 Way less.

01:03:49.000 Yeah.

01:03:49.000 If your goal is happy, that is not the occupation you should be in.

01:03:52.000 That's not it.

01:03:53.000 No.

01:03:53.000 Yeah.

01:03:53.000 Those people are miserable.

01:03:55.000 Yeah, and they're always chasing and they're never satisfied.

01:03:59.000 You know, that to me is torture in itself.

01:04:02.000 Well, it's also stupid.

01:04:04.000 And if you're running a corporation, it's actually your obligation.

01:04:07.000 Your obligation to your shareholders to continue to make as much money as possible.

01:04:11.000 So you're trapped in a system that obligates you to behave and think that way.

01:04:16.000 And if you don't, you won't be competitive.

01:04:18.000 Yeah, it's...

01:04:21.000 It's an ugly game, you know, and I don't see where people are being thought about in these type situations, you know.

01:04:31.000 It's all about, you know, capital don't care.

01:04:34.000 Capital has no emotions.

01:04:38.000 Capital only respects capital.

01:04:40.000 Yeah, the only time it respects people's opinions is when people boycott shit and it works, like this Bud Light thing.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 And now people are like, don't do that again.

01:04:49.000 Yeah.

01:04:50.000 Like, be careful.

01:04:51.000 Because look what happened to Bud Light.

01:04:54.000 Well, who controls Bud Light?

01:04:56.000 That's the question.

01:04:57.000 Why would they make a dumb decision like that?

01:04:59.000 Are they trying to ruin Bud Light?

01:05:02.000 And why would they want to ruin Bud Light?

01:05:04.000 Are they trying to take down some of our most iconic American brands?

01:05:10.000 And why would that help?

01:05:12.000 I don't think they had any idea this was going to happen.

01:05:16.000 It's this ESG thing that everybody has to dedicate a certain amount of their time to, you know, woke stuff.

01:05:23.000 Who mandates that?

01:05:26.000 It's a good question.

01:05:27.000 Where does the ESG money come from?

01:05:28.000 Is that government?

01:05:31.000 Like, where does that come from?

01:05:32.000 And they have scores, and the ESG score of your corporation determines what you get.

01:05:39.000 And the problem is also you get these people that are coming out of college, like this lady who made the decision for Bud Light.

01:05:45.000 You know, she's gone through the university system, she's in the corporate system, and she's a woman, and she thinks, you know, we have to be more inclusive, and that's all the language everyone's using today.

01:05:56.000 So they don't know any real people.

01:05:57.000 They don't know regular people.

01:05:59.000 They have no idea that if you take a brand, Bud Light, which is, like, known for, you know, blue-collar drinking people, that they like to fucking watch football and drink Bud Light, and then all of a sudden you have this Mentally ill person who's just an attention whore and you make a big deal out of putting this person 365 days of womanhood you put that on a Bud Light can and they freak the fuck out Yeah,

01:06:21.000 and then Kid Rock shoots a bunch of them and then it's on once Kid Rock shoots your cans you got real problems.

01:06:27.000 Yeah I'm pretty sure you do Yeah, man, it's kind of like I think you gotta You gotta still ask why.

01:06:39.000 You think there's like a conspiracy?

01:06:41.000 Well, you know, who's getting hurt?

01:06:45.000 Who's getting hurt in this whole thing?

01:06:48.000 Is it the Bud Light?

01:06:51.000 Anheuser-Busch.

01:06:52.000 Brass.

01:06:54.000 Will their bonuses be affected?

01:06:57.000 Will their checks and salaries be affected?

01:07:00.000 You got this lower-level person fired, and a bunch of middle-class guys are paying the price because you got distribution centers, you know, guys that deliver the beer nobody want, and now they're out of a job.

01:07:16.000 Now you're really...

01:07:18.000 Attacking the middle class by making a brand that's so big take a hit like that.

01:07:28.000 It says here, the quickest destruction of a company in history.

01:07:32.000 Bud Light sponsors Toronto Pride Braid.

01:07:35.000 So, you know, it's...

01:07:38.000 When was this?

01:07:40.000 That was just the other day?

01:07:42.000 Oh, that's so silly!

01:07:44.000 They're leaning into it.

01:07:45.000 Meanwhile, the gays are mad at them.

01:07:48.000 The Pride people are mad at them because they didn't support Dylan Mulvaney, so they kicked it out of gay bars.

01:07:53.000 You don't win either way at the end of the day, but I think about the companies that own these companies, the people that own these companies, and why would they let a decision like that take the company down?

01:08:10.000 I don't think they thought it was going to.

01:08:11.000 I think this is a legitimate public outrage one, where they just pushed too far and people went, fuck you.

01:08:17.000 And it wasn't even like a real promotion.

01:08:20.000 It was a thing they sent a can to this person, this Dylan Mulvaney person, but I don't think it went anywhere else.

01:08:27.000 I think it was just like, here, this is for you, and you put it on social media.

01:08:30.000 They made some sort of a partnering deal, you know, and that was it.

01:08:34.000 So why'd Target do the same thing?

01:08:37.000 Well, I think that's an ESG thing.

01:08:39.000 That's an ESG thing, right?

01:08:41.000 And Target lost billions of dollars, too.

01:08:43.000 Because people are sick of this shit.

01:08:45.000 They're sick of social things like that that are controversial getting stuffed into your face and where you have to accept it.

01:08:52.000 And people are like, I don't want to accept it.

01:08:54.000 I'm just coming here for fucking toilet paper.

01:08:56.000 Yeah, I think, you know, people got to keep it in perspective as well, too.

01:09:01.000 You know, I don't think people grab a beer to be so, I mean, to, you know, to learn about the newest social event or the social situation going out.

01:09:12.000 Grab a beer because you want a beer, hang with your buddies or hang...

01:09:16.000 You know, with people that enjoy beer and y'all shoot the shit and politics really shouldn't be in somebody's beer mug, you know?

01:09:25.000 They just don't get it.

01:09:26.000 They think it has to be in everything.

01:09:27.000 Everybody, because of social media, everybody feels like they're fighting some sort of social battle with everything they do.

01:09:34.000 This is another one.

01:09:36.000 It's like forced compliance.

01:09:39.000 You're forced to comply with this.

01:09:42.000 It's fucking up women's sports in a huge way.

01:09:46.000 In a huge way.

01:09:49.000 Some organizations are pushing back against that, and some people are pushing back against the organizations that are pushing back against it, which to me is insane.

01:09:57.000 If you care at all about biological women, you should be against that.

01:10:01.000 I mean, what if LeBron said he wanted to play in the WNBA? I'm retiring from the NBA because I'm 49 and I'm going to play in the WNBA. Well, they wouldn't be able to stop it.

01:10:13.000 If he just decided to say publicly, I identify as a woman, what are they going to do?

01:10:17.000 They can't do anything.

01:10:18.000 And then that would be the end.

01:10:21.000 Dave Chappelle has a bit about it.

01:10:23.000 Yeah.

01:10:26.000 Brown scores 100 again tonight.

01:10:29.000 Well, there was some fucking knucklehead that was getting an interview.

01:10:32.000 They said, if Mike Tyson identified as a woman, should he be able to fight women?

01:10:36.000 And they were like, well, the short answer is yes.

01:10:38.000 Ah!

01:10:42.000 Lord.

01:10:43.000 It's so crazy.

01:10:44.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 It's okay.

01:10:45.000 And there's also different specifications.

01:10:46.000 It's like what you have to do and how long you have to take hormones before you can identify as a woman and compete as a woman.

01:10:51.000 Like, just fucking stop.

01:10:53.000 I mean, who's gonna check all that?

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:55.000 There's a reason why there's women's sports.

01:10:56.000 And there's a reason why there's men's sports.

01:10:58.000 And you're not talking about who you are or what your truth is.

01:11:02.000 Live your truth.

01:11:02.000 I mean, Title IX just got, you know, just turned, what, 30 or something like that.

01:11:11.000 Protecting women's sports.

01:11:13.000 Yeah, which is great because it forces schools that make a lot of money teaching whatever they teach in them schools and they should carve out some for women to be able to play for their school.

01:11:30.000 That's great.

01:11:32.000 So I don't understand You know, sometimes things don't make crazy man sense.

01:11:39.000 When they don't make crazy man sense, I just back out.

01:11:47.000 Stop thinking about it.

01:11:48.000 Yeah, it's probably a good move because you're not going to solve it.

01:11:51.000 I mean, I think ultimately it gets solved where people just don't accept it anymore.

01:11:56.000 And then hopefully it'll go.

01:11:57.000 I mean, maybe they could just develop a transgender league where trans people play against trans people.

01:12:02.000 That would be great.

01:12:03.000 Why not?

01:12:03.000 But you can't pretend you're a biological female just because you wish you were.

01:12:07.000 You can't pretend when it comes to women's sports.

01:12:10.000 You can't pretend when it comes to women's rights issues.

01:12:14.000 You don't want men dominating that.

01:12:17.000 Because that's what it is.

01:12:18.000 It's men entering into women's spaces.

01:12:22.000 Yeah.

01:12:23.000 Ultimately.

01:12:23.000 They identify as a woman, that's great.

01:12:25.000 But physically, you're a biological male.

01:12:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:29.000 And you want to compete against them?

01:12:31.000 You want to play rugby against women?

01:12:33.000 Get the fuck out of here.

01:12:34.000 Get the fuck out of here.

01:12:35.000 That's crazy.

01:12:36.000 They want to dominate.

01:12:37.000 They want to dominate.

01:12:38.000 There's a lot of that.

01:12:39.000 They want to dominate.

01:12:40.000 They want to be winners.

01:12:41.000 Yeah.

01:12:42.000 If all of a sudden you can be a woman and a winner and just fucking kick everybody's ass.

01:12:46.000 Yeah.

01:12:47.000 You know how you used to, like, play the kids in basketball?

01:12:50.000 Like, they ate, you know, just shack out there.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, you just shack.

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:58.000 It's the ultimate sandbagging, you know?

01:13:01.000 It's like, you know you have a giant advantage.

01:13:04.000 Like, the one that drove me the craziest was the MMA fighter.

01:13:07.000 Yeah.

01:13:07.000 Because that person became a woman for two years and then started competing as women.

01:13:12.000 And not telling them.

01:13:13.000 And saying it was a medical issue.

01:13:15.000 I don't have to disclose a medical condition.

01:13:18.000 No, no, no, no.

01:13:19.000 That's not what that is.

01:13:20.000 If that person said that they were a woman and competed against women, that's deception.

01:13:27.000 That's a fucking lie.

01:13:28.000 But if you said you're a biological male and the women still want to fight you, okay.

01:13:32.000 All good.

01:13:34.000 Yeah, you know, it's tricky, man.

01:13:38.000 It's like a slippery slope, you know, that really starts to get bizarre after a while, you know, because where does it actually end at the end of the day,

01:13:53.000 you know?

01:13:54.000 Yeah.

01:13:55.000 What if somebody say, I don't identify as black.

01:13:59.000 I want to be another color.

01:14:01.000 Yeah.

01:14:02.000 Purple.

01:14:03.000 Yeah.

01:14:07.000 What, you laughing at me?

01:14:08.000 You can get purple.

01:14:10.000 You laughing at me or cancel your ass?

01:14:11.000 You laughing at me because I'm purple?

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 That's basically...

01:14:16.000 Yeah.

01:14:16.000 Well, you know, you might as well, you know, I'm a chicken dinner.

01:14:25.000 I'm macaroni and cheese.

01:14:26.000 I'm rice.

01:14:30.000 I'm the rolls.

01:14:32.000 I'm a chicken dinner, man.

01:14:34.000 I identify as...

01:14:35.000 These people identify as younger people.

01:14:39.000 It is a slippery slope.

01:14:41.000 Yeah, because people can...

01:14:44.000 You know, people always can be extreme with stuff like that.

01:14:49.000 They're extreme, and they keep pushing boundaries.

01:14:51.000 And they're pushing boundaries on the age of consent now, which is crazy.

01:14:54.000 You know, there's people that are also pushing back against calling people pedophiles.

01:15:00.000 They're saying you should call them minor attracted persons.

01:15:03.000 Man, come on.

01:15:04.000 It's insane.

01:15:05.000 I mean, you're getting academics that are saying this.

01:15:08.000 It's insane.

01:15:10.000 Yeah, it is.

01:15:11.000 You know, it's borderline madness somewhere almost there.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, well, it's the end of an empire.

01:15:19.000 There's this guy, Douglas Murray, he's this British intellectual, and he said that every time a civilization is close to collapsing, they become obsessed with gender.

01:15:29.000 It happened with the ancient Greeks, the Romans, it's just some weird thing that happens when everything is just going too good, and life is too easy.

01:15:37.000 People get obsessed with the weirdest things, and now we're obsessed with gender.

01:15:45.000 It's the beginning of the end.

01:15:46.000 Stay tuned.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, who knows?

01:15:48.000 Maybe we'll bounce back.

01:15:50.000 You know?

01:15:51.000 Get a good president in there, you know?

01:15:54.000 Turn it around.

01:15:58.000 I don't put a lot on the president.

01:16:01.000 I don't put a lot on the president, for sure.

01:16:04.000 I wonder what would happen if Robert Kennedy Jr. got in there.

01:16:07.000 Very interested to see what happens with that guy.

01:16:09.000 Yeah.

01:16:10.000 You know, he's...

01:16:13.000 You know, he seemed like a guy who at least is down a deep dive.

01:16:20.000 Yeah.

01:16:21.000 And talk real and, you know, really try to dissect what's really going on instead of just going with the herd.

01:16:36.000 Which would be easy for him to do, like go with the herd, you know.

01:16:41.000 He may be, you know, even ahead more, or he may even be doing better, you know, when they poll, thinking like 20% of people or something.

01:16:52.000 Yeah, he'd probably be doing better.

01:16:53.000 Probably be doing better, and, you know, instead of...

01:16:57.000 You know, maybe he'll be one of their guys.

01:17:01.000 And so by him going this route, it seems like he's on a more noble route.

01:17:10.000 And we just check him out and see how he navigates some of this stuff.

01:17:15.000 He's definitely on a more noble route, and it's definitely not something he planned to do initially.

01:17:20.000 I mean, he was an environmental attorney.

01:17:22.000 He was the guy that cleaned up the Hudson River.

01:17:24.000 They would go after these corporations that were dumping toxic waste, and that was his thing.

01:17:29.000 It was like mercury in the water and trying to hold corporations accountable.

01:17:34.000 And then these women started showing up every time we would give these speeches, and they said, we want you to look into mercury and vaccines.

01:17:42.000 And so this is 18 years ago.

01:17:44.000 And so for 18 years, this guy's been saying all this stuff about environmental concerns.

01:17:50.000 And that was what his whole thing was.

01:17:52.000 And it wasn't until COVID came along.

01:17:54.000 And then he wrote that book, The Real Anthony Fauci, detailing what it is that these people are actually doing and how they are engineering these viruses.

01:18:04.000 And they give grants and it's dangerous gain-of-function research.

01:18:08.000 And then they give you one medication that you have to take.

01:18:11.000 And everybody gets on board with it, and they're making fucking billions of dollars.

01:18:16.000 Yes.

01:18:16.000 And no one's talking about what he's saying.

01:18:18.000 And he's saying it in a well-informed way, and he's expressing it to people like, this is the playbook they always use, and they just used it on everybody.

01:18:27.000 Look, he's dealing with the same people we probably all are dealing with.

01:18:32.000 And it's really time for us to really...

01:18:39.000 Come up with a plan on how we're going to deal with this because it's just going to continue to happen.

01:18:45.000 It's just going to continue to happen.

01:18:47.000 I don't have all the answers.

01:18:51.000 But I think we need to collectively start to not just give a pass to people doing things like this.

01:19:01.000 And we've got major outlets that's not Delivering the right message to the people.

01:19:11.000 Not delivering the right message.

01:19:15.000 Basically steering them the way that these super rich people want us to go.

01:19:23.000 And it's not cool.

01:19:25.000 No, it's not.

01:19:26.000 And I'm hoping people wake up enough to at least slow it down.

01:19:31.000 Yeah.

01:19:31.000 Because these people are pushing in a very obvious and very specific direction.

01:19:36.000 They want digital currency, centralized digital currency that they control.

01:19:40.000 And they want to get everybody on a social credit score system.

01:19:43.000 They'll probably connect it to some sort of a vaccine app.

01:19:46.000 Or if you want to travel around, all they would need is another pandemic to try to push that shit through.

01:19:50.000 And they're already talking about that.

01:19:53.000 It's very spooky.

01:19:54.000 Because when you look into the history of this lab and them funding it and this getting out and the way they responded to it, the whole thing is so scary because it was effective.

01:20:05.000 It was effective and very, very financially effective.

01:20:08.000 I mean, they made a lot of fucking money.

01:20:10.000 Yeah.

01:20:11.000 And if they could do something similar again and then clamp down more on people, that's what scares me.

01:20:17.000 This talk of centralized digital currency, that's what they have in China.

01:20:21.000 If you fuck up in China and you get a bad social credit score because you tweeted something they didn't like, now you can't buy a plane ticket.

01:20:29.000 Now you can't buy a car.

01:20:31.000 Now you can't get a loan.

01:20:32.000 Now you can't do something.

01:20:33.000 You step the fucking line and people self-censor because they don't want to be a part of that.

01:20:38.000 Now they got you.

01:20:39.000 Yep, they got you.

01:20:40.000 Once you self-censor, Got you where they want you.

01:20:45.000 Yeah, we know that they were involved in Twitter.

01:20:47.000 We know that the government was involved in silencing different voices.

01:20:51.000 You know, they stopped that Hunter Biden laptop story from getting out before the election.

01:20:56.000 It's just, it's so obviously dirty shit.

01:21:00.000 I did a record called Everything's Corrupt.

01:21:03.000 And it is when you really look around, man.

01:21:07.000 It's like, where is the...

01:21:12.000 Where is the people that's doing the right thing?

01:21:15.000 Yeah.

01:21:15.000 Where they at?

01:21:16.000 Have you thought about doing anything with politics?

01:21:19.000 No, I would never.

01:21:20.000 I would never do nothing with politics.

01:21:22.000 Does anybody try to pressure you?

01:21:24.000 What you mean?

01:21:25.000 Like, Cube, you should run for mayor.

01:21:27.000 I tell my mama ready to marry.

01:21:28.000 You know?

01:21:29.000 It's like, only thing I would do, I said, uh, king me.

01:21:33.000 You know, just...

01:21:35.000 Only thing I would accept is...

01:21:37.000 Turn you into a king?

01:21:38.000 Turn me into a king.

01:21:40.000 President.

01:21:41.000 Politician.

01:21:42.000 Begging-ass politician.

01:21:47.000 Powerless puppet.

01:21:49.000 Oh, no.

01:21:51.000 Oh, no.

01:21:52.000 Oh, no.

01:21:53.000 You know, I talked to one guy who actually...

01:21:56.000 Spends the money that the government allocates.

01:22:01.000 So, you know, Congress say this industry is going to get this many billions.

01:22:10.000 It's up to him to say where that money goes.

01:22:14.000 And I'm like, well, how often do you talk to people at Congress?

01:22:18.000 He said, never.

01:22:21.000 He said, they can't even get me on the phone.

01:22:24.000 I'm like, what?

01:22:26.000 He said, these people can't even get me on the phone, man.

01:22:30.000 I don't listen to them.

01:22:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:32.000 I just tell them where the money gotta go.

01:22:35.000 Wow, so he gets to decide?

01:22:37.000 You know, he's part of...

01:22:40.000 The government that, you know, when they allocate the money, it goes to these different agencies and departments, and then they allocate where it goes.

01:22:50.000 They can't spend any of it, so they can't take it, but they can spend it.

01:22:56.000 And then they can develop relationships with the people they give the money to.

01:22:59.000 Yeah, so, you know...

01:23:04.000 The people in Congress are, to me, actually powerless.

01:23:09.000 They're just theater at the end of the day.

01:23:13.000 Well, they're theater who also gets the inside trade.

01:23:16.000 Yeah.

01:23:16.000 That's the beautiful thing.

01:23:17.000 Exactly.

01:23:18.000 I mean, they know where that money's going.

01:23:20.000 Yeah.

01:23:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:21.000 They might not be able to touch it, but they can be on the other end to make sure their investments are carved out and they make a pretty penny off of it.

01:23:32.000 Well, not only that, they do it openly in front of everybody.

01:23:35.000 It's not illegal.

01:23:36.000 And every time people call to ban it, like Nancy Pelosi is like, what?

01:23:40.000 No.

01:23:41.000 We're not going to do that.

01:23:43.000 Why would we do that?

01:23:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:45.000 Ladies are at $200 million.

01:23:46.000 She makes $200 grand a year.

01:23:48.000 Yeah, right.

01:23:50.000 She's better at stock trading than Warren Buffett and George Soros.

01:23:54.000 Yeah.

01:23:54.000 Why wouldn't she be?

01:23:56.000 She know where everything is going to hit.

01:24:00.000 It's crazy.

01:24:01.000 She knows what's going to hit, when it's going to hit, and how much it's going to hit for.

01:24:05.000 And unless that's illegal, fuck you.

01:24:09.000 Fuck your whole system.

01:24:10.000 Exactly.

01:24:11.000 Because, you know, it's easy to...

01:24:16.000 You know, it's easy to corrupt these people.

01:24:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:21.000 It's all money.

01:24:22.000 Did you ever think you would have to think about it so much, though?

01:24:25.000 Like, I didn't think about this so much, like, 10, 15 years ago.

01:24:30.000 Well, I always had my kind of, you know, ever since, you know, people like Tipper Gore come after you, you pay attention to where the shots are being fired, you know, so...

01:24:42.000 Before then, just a little, you know, I was sitting, my pops would look at the news and yell at the screen.

01:24:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:50.000 That's how I know what was bullshit and what was real, you know.

01:24:54.000 And then, you know, I started doing my thing and then, like, the law, the FBI, you know, all these agencies started to come down on us.

01:25:08.000 Really scared the shit out at the record company because we wouldn't we could care less like We was like The day we got the FBI letter.

01:25:18.000 What was the FBI letter?

01:25:19.000 We got a FBI letter.

01:25:21.000 They sent the letter to priority records Saying they one guy was like, I'm you know Part of this department of the FBI and we're very concerned with this record called Straight Outta Compton.

01:25:36.000 You guys got a song on there called Fuck the Police and we think this song could encourage, you know, people to go against law enforcement and blah blah that and blah blah that.

01:25:50.000 Basically, you know, we'd like it if you guys took it off the shelf.

01:25:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:56.000 To that tip.

01:25:57.000 So, you know, they call us up there.

01:26:00.000 You know, they panicking.

01:26:03.000 We don't know why they want us to come.

01:26:05.000 They just like, man, you got to come here.

01:26:06.000 We got to talk to you.

01:26:08.000 Get up there and just like pull out this letter.

01:26:11.000 FBI. He's like, man, do you know what this is?

01:26:16.000 This fucking agent, he sent me this letter and they was all nervous and shit.

01:26:23.000 And we're looking like, a letter?

01:26:25.000 That's all you get?

01:26:26.000 They not gonna come in here and try to fuck with us?

01:26:28.000 They not gonna arrest us, cuff us, rough us up, none of that?

01:26:34.000 And we're like, y'all scared over a fucking letter?

01:26:38.000 Come back to South Central with us.

01:26:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:41.000 Deal with the sheriffs down there.

01:26:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:43.000 They do way more than give you a letter.

01:26:46.000 So we felt that it was like...

01:26:49.000 Easy was like, we're going to be big as fuck after this.

01:26:55.000 But the guys at the record company, this was the first time they ever dealt with pushback.

01:27:02.000 First time the government probably even knew they existed.

01:27:06.000 So they were freaked out.

01:27:08.000 And we were like...

01:27:11.000 Okay.

01:27:12.000 We was looking for them to raid our houses and shit.

01:27:14.000 Like, damn.

01:27:15.000 Because we done seen the Bataram.

01:27:17.000 We done seen them run up in people's houses on dope charges or whatever.

01:27:22.000 You know, especially in the late 80s, early 90s.

01:27:25.000 That's like they got a kick out of just running up in people's houses and shit.

01:27:30.000 So...

01:27:32.000 We were, like, looking for that to come in the next few weeks.

01:27:36.000 We was looking like, oh, they about to hit us.

01:27:39.000 And it never happened, so we was like, what's the issue?

01:27:43.000 What's the problem?

01:27:44.000 So it was just that letter and that was it?

01:27:46.000 It was just that letter.

01:27:47.000 And then we made the letter public, and they kind of just backed off and shit.

01:27:53.000 And then it became this big story of, you know, the FBI hates this group.

01:27:58.000 I think we was on a...

01:28:00.000 Covered like one of those, you know, New York magazines and it was like, the FBI hates this group.

01:28:08.000 Yeah, look at this.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, the FBI hates this band.

01:28:12.000 Wow.

01:28:13.000 Yeah.

01:28:15.000 Easy was right.

01:28:16.000 Yeah, he was.

01:28:17.000 That's the letter.

01:28:18.000 Wow.

01:28:20.000 Look at that.

01:28:21.000 A song recorded by the rap group NWA on their album entitled Straight Outta Compton encourages violence and disrespect for law enforcement officer and has been brought to my attention.

01:28:32.000 I understand your company recorded and distributed this album and I am writing to share my thoughts and concerns with you advocating violence and assault is wrong and we in law enforcement community take the exception Yeah.

01:29:01.000 Yeah.

01:29:08.000 Officers dedicate their lives to protection of our citizens, and recordings such as the one from NWA are both discouraging and degrading to these brave, dedicated officers.

01:29:20.000 Music plays a significant role in society, and I'd want you to be aware of the FBI's position relative to this song and its message.

01:29:27.000 I believe my reviews reflect the opinion of the entire law enforcement community.

01:29:32.000 Huh.

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 Never met this dude?

01:29:34.000 Nah.

01:29:35.000 Nah, never.

01:29:36.000 Interesting.

01:29:37.000 Yeah.

01:29:38.000 1988, it was a different world.

01:29:40.000 And that was the first.

01:29:41.000 That was like the first moment of that, where we had heard that the government and politicians were concerned about rap music.

01:29:50.000 Without a doubt.

01:29:53.000 They didn't come after me, but all these other different agencies were starting to hit us up.

01:30:00.000 They started going after Ice-T a little bit.

01:30:05.000 Body Count did a song called Cop Killer.

01:30:09.000 It was a time when we grew up real fast.

01:30:15.000 We had to understand that You know, this is bigger than hip-hop, and we gotta stand up for what we know is true and right.

01:30:25.000 It's like, we're not making shit up, you know?

01:30:29.000 Go down, you know?

01:30:32.000 I've seen guys tell cops, you know what I mean?

01:30:37.000 Take off that gun, take off that badge, and we can...

01:30:40.000 We could knuckle it up in the streets and do it like men.

01:30:44.000 So, you know, we knew that sentiment was out there where people was really like, yo, if you're going to act like a thug, you know what I'm saying, let's thug it out.

01:30:56.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:57.000 If you're going to act like an officer, then we'll respect your authority.

01:31:06.000 You see what I mean?

01:31:07.000 Yeah.

01:31:08.000 It was a lot of cops that we respected that came through, and they would treat us like real humans, not like suspects.

01:31:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:21.000 You don't want anybody to come through just treating you like a suspect.

01:31:23.000 You ain't out here doing nothing.

01:31:26.000 So we knew some dudes that would come through and talk to us, tell us, You know, y'all need to watch out, be careful, you know what I'm saying?

01:31:32.000 And, you know, do anybody know something that happened around the corner and all these little stuff?

01:31:36.000 And we like, nah, nah, nah.

01:31:38.000 But they was respectful.

01:31:39.000 And we respected their authority.

01:31:42.000 Then there was others that would come through, you know, look at you crazy, harass you, you know.

01:31:48.000 We was kids on the bikes.

01:31:49.000 We saw one day they came.

01:31:51.000 We like eight, nine years old, man.

01:31:53.000 We on our bikes.

01:31:53.000 Got our bikes laid down.

01:31:54.000 We made a ramp.

01:31:55.000 We all kicking on the grass, resting, looking at our bikes like they're fucking motorcycles and shit.

01:32:01.000 Like, you know?

01:32:02.000 And, man, sheriffs hit the corner, came all up on the grass, and, like, get against the car, all that, you know, bullshit.

01:32:13.000 And we kids.

01:32:14.000 They know we kids sitting on bikes, man.

01:32:17.000 What you think we did?

01:32:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:32:20.000 Like, rode on somebody's grass.

01:32:22.000 Yeah.

01:32:23.000 What you think we out here doing?

01:32:27.000 What was it like when the album came out interacting with cops?

01:32:33.000 Most of them was cool, actually.

01:32:35.000 Most of them said they listened to the song.

01:32:39.000 In the movie, we get ran out of Detroit.

01:32:42.000 They ran us off stage because we sung the song.

01:32:46.000 A lot of undercover police throwing M-80s and shit on the stage.

01:32:50.000 Really?

01:32:50.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.000 So we thought they were shooting at us.

01:32:52.000 So we run off.

01:32:54.000 They catch us.

01:32:55.000 They round us up.

01:32:57.000 And, you know, they like thought you was going to come to Detroit, right?

01:33:02.000 Talking that cop.

01:33:03.000 I mean, that fuck the police shit.

01:33:06.000 And can't come to Detroit talking that.

01:33:09.000 We should have run y'all to jail.

01:33:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:11.000 We should have locked y'all up.

01:33:12.000 And blah, blah, blah.

01:33:13.000 And we like listening.

01:33:14.000 We listening.

01:33:15.000 And he said, but...

01:33:20.000 If y'all got a couple pictures, y'all got a couple 8x10s, y'all signing for my daughter, we ain't gonna have no problems.

01:33:27.000 So, you know, we was pissed, but we was like, man, Eazy was like, get them t-shirts, get them everything they need.

01:33:34.000 Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

01:33:36.000 And so, you know, we signed and shit, you know, reluctantly.

01:33:40.000 But the concert's over.

01:33:42.000 Yeah, they turned the concert out.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 I mean, they ran us off stage after three songs.

01:33:48.000 And they got pictures.

01:33:50.000 And then they got pictures and they got autographs for their daughters and they let us go.

01:33:54.000 They just said, you can't come to Detroit with that bullshit.

01:33:56.000 Wow.

01:33:57.000 So it was only Detroit that was the only place that fucked us up?

01:33:59.000 Cincinnati they ran us off.

01:34:01.000 Really?

01:34:01.000 Man, they would have us...

01:34:06.000 Before every concert, a sergeant or a captain or somebody would come in with a city ordinance.

01:34:17.000 Of what was obscene in their city, in their town, and what could be said on stage, and what couldn't be said.

01:34:23.000 And if you say any of this or do any of this, we will arrest you after your performance.

01:34:28.000 Wow.

01:34:29.000 Like, what words?

01:34:32.000 I mean, fuck, motherfucker.

01:34:34.000 Really?

01:34:35.000 Oh my god.

01:34:36.000 It was like the 1950s again.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, it was like on that tip.

01:34:39.000 Wow.

01:34:41.000 This is 88?

01:34:43.000 Around then?

01:34:43.000 Yeah, 88, 89. Wow.

01:34:45.000 And when we hit the stage, we like, man, we would tell the audience, you know what these motherfuckers told us backstage?

01:34:53.000 They said we couldn't say fuck, we couldn't say shit, we couldn't say this, we couldn't say bitch.

01:34:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:59.000 And we're gonna start this off with a bitch is a bitch.

01:35:02.000 A bitch is a bitch.

01:35:03.000 You know, so...

01:35:04.000 We would do our shows.

01:35:06.000 You know, sometimes they would just let us go.

01:35:09.000 And then sometimes you would...

01:35:11.000 Like, after the show, you'd have to look and see the look and...

01:35:14.000 Like, the security in everybody's face.

01:35:16.000 And you knew, okay, they're on us.

01:35:20.000 So...

01:35:20.000 Many a times...

01:35:23.000 We come off stage, but then we're like switching jackets.

01:35:27.000 Like people handing you jackets, handing you different shirts and shit.

01:35:31.000 So you can put them on and walk through the backstage because now cops was like, where they at?

01:35:38.000 You know, we're those guys that was on stage.

01:35:40.000 And In Cincinnati, I saw them coming.

01:35:45.000 I saw them all looking around, and I didn't have a chance to change my shit, so they was looking for me.

01:35:51.000 And so I hit the exit.

01:35:53.000 I went outside.

01:35:54.000 I went outside the concert, and it was people flowing in and out.

01:36:01.000 It was like, Q, what you doing out here?

01:36:03.000 I said, man, they're looking for me.

01:36:06.000 He's like, I jumped in the car with them, like fans and shit.

01:36:11.000 I just jumped in the car with them.

01:36:12.000 They drove me across the bridge to Kansas City.

01:36:15.000 I mean, Kentucky is right across from Cincinnati.

01:36:18.000 We're sitting there waiting for anybody to drive up.

01:36:21.000 Nobody drove up, and they ended up driving me back to the hotel.

01:36:25.000 And then you got Eazy and Dre.

01:36:28.000 Where the fuck was you?

01:36:29.000 Where'd you go, man?

01:36:30.000 We all got citations, and we gotta come back here.

01:36:33.000 They want us to fly back here to go to court, and they couldn't catch you.

01:36:36.000 They was looking for you.

01:36:37.000 They couldn't catch you.

01:36:38.000 I was like, man, I dipped.

01:36:39.000 I dipped.

01:36:42.000 And I'm gonna dip again next show.

01:36:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:36:45.000 It was crazy.

01:36:47.000 Did they have to go back to court?

01:36:48.000 They had to go back to court.

01:36:50.000 Wow.

01:36:50.000 Yeah, they had to go back to court and fight it.

01:36:52.000 And what happened?

01:36:54.000 I don't remember because I ended up leaving the group.

01:36:56.000 I ended up leaving the group, so I don't really know what happened kind of after 89 with everybody.

01:37:02.000 Wow.

01:37:03.000 What a wild time.

01:37:05.000 It was crazy.

01:37:06.000 Crazy.

01:37:07.000 But fun.

01:37:08.000 We were living the time of our lives because we never knew we was going to be this popular throughout the country.

01:37:16.000 We thought the records that we did were...

01:37:20.000 Just local, you know, we was going to be, you know, hood stars, you know what I mean?

01:37:24.000 Right there in our neighborhood, people was going to love us, but outside of Compton, South Central, Long Beach, Watts, we were like, you know, people, they're not even going to know what we're talking about.

01:37:37.000 Right.

01:37:39.000 Little did we know that everybody was kind of going through the same things that we were going through.

01:37:46.000 That's so wild.

01:37:48.000 So what was it like when it blew up?

01:37:51.000 I mean, for you to be a young guy in this, you know, hip-hop just in general was relatively new.

01:37:59.000 Yeah.

01:38:00.000 And for it to blow up that big, that had to be a wild change of your life.

01:38:05.000 It was, you know, because you think you're only going to be an underground artist.

01:38:11.000 Before we sold our records, records like ours would be in the section with the Red Fox records and the Richard Pryor, the Eddie Murphy, the dirty comedy records.

01:38:27.000 That's where you would find...

01:38:29.000 These dirty hip-hop records, and there was a few, you know, there's a dude named Blowfly.

01:38:38.000 Blowfly would have songs called, he had a song, he got one a song called Rap Dirty, and like those kind of songs would be in this section that nobody went to unless you just wanted to laugh or something.

01:38:51.000 We thought our records would end up there, and that being.

01:38:55.000 And it just blew up.

01:38:58.000 MTV banned our Straight Outta Compton video, and that blew the group up because...

01:39:06.000 People wanted to know why did they do something that even MTV was scared to show.

01:39:12.000 And so we went from thinking we were going to be in that little bend to they putting us in the front of the record store and promoting that.

01:39:23.000 You can get straight out of Compton here.

01:39:25.000 Wow.

01:39:26.000 And so it just took us from, you know, that...

01:39:31.000 Back-of-the-store stuff to Prime Real Estate.

01:39:34.000 How many records did Straight Outta Compton sell?

01:39:38.000 I don't know the exact end figure, but even that, while I was still in the group, it was like two million records, and then it was just growing.

01:39:48.000 So by now, it's got to be up to at least four.

01:39:52.000 Wow.

01:39:54.000 That had to be a fucking crazy experience to not think that that was ever going to happen.

01:40:00.000 And then, boom.

01:40:01.000 It was, you know...

01:40:03.000 Most controversial band in America.

01:40:04.000 We went from being straight locals to, like, being everywhere.

01:40:10.000 Matter of fact, I went to school after I was in the group.

01:40:15.000 Like...

01:40:16.000 I was like, I can't hang my hat on this.

01:40:20.000 I'm not going to be able to live on dirty rap records.

01:40:25.000 Can't play them on the radio.

01:40:28.000 Only underground people are going to hear it.

01:40:32.000 So I went off to a trade school in Phoenix, Arizona called Phoenix Institute of Technology.

01:40:39.000 Where'd you go to learn?

01:40:41.000 Architectural drafting.

01:40:42.000 Really?

01:40:43.000 Yeah.

01:40:43.000 Wow.

01:40:44.000 Yeah, I took drafting in school and I dug it and sent some pamphlet in the mail.

01:40:51.000 You know, if you want more information, fill this out.

01:40:55.000 A little postcard.

01:40:57.000 I filled it out.

01:40:59.000 A fucker showed up to my house and they was in there talking to my mother and father.

01:41:02.000 I'm like, what the hell?

01:41:05.000 You're going to school.

01:41:08.000 I got a show.

01:41:09.000 I got a...

01:41:09.000 No, you're going to school.

01:41:11.000 Like, damn.

01:41:13.000 Damn.

01:41:13.000 How long was that for?

01:41:14.000 A year.

01:41:15.000 Wow.

01:41:16.000 Yep.

01:41:17.000 Yep.

01:41:18.000 Fall of 87 to the...

01:41:22.000 Fall of 88. Wow.

01:41:25.000 So you got out of trade school and then the album blows up.

01:41:28.000 I mean, we got out of trade school and then we was working on Eazy's solo album.

01:41:33.000 Eazy does it, his solo album came out right before NWA. And that blew him up.

01:41:41.000 And we were along for the ride, so when the N.W.A. record came and he was part of the N.W.A. group, it just put a spotlight on the group.

01:41:52.000 And then the record was crazy, so just took it to the next level.

01:41:57.000 What was your earliest influences in hip-hop?

01:42:01.000 Curtis Blow, Run DMC, Sugarhill Gang, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Biz Marquis, Salt-N-Pepa,

01:42:18.000 You know, like the greats.

01:42:21.000 All the greats.

01:42:23.000 Beastie Boys.

01:42:25.000 LL Cool J for sure.

01:42:27.000 You know, we loved LL. Like, LL was the man always.

01:42:32.000 And so when was the first time you actually performed?

01:42:35.000 How old were you?

01:42:37.000 I was probably 15, 15. Is that a local thing?

01:42:44.000 Yeah, you know, we would do rap battles.

01:42:47.000 So we would go up to people's school and find out, you know, everybody didn't rap.

01:42:52.000 Like now, everybody raps.

01:42:54.000 But back then, it was like a niche group.

01:42:57.000 So we had honed our skills, so we would go up to different high schools and hop the fence and nutrition and shit and find a spot in battle.

01:43:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:12.000 So it was fun.

01:43:13.000 I was like a karate master looking for a spar.

01:43:18.000 You know, we're walking around.

01:43:20.000 It's like, who go to that school?

01:43:21.000 Who rap over there?

01:43:23.000 Who over here?

01:43:24.000 It's like, there's some dudes in my school, man.

01:43:26.000 They can bust, man.

01:43:27.000 Y'all should come up here.

01:43:28.000 You know, I was trying to set it up for Friday.

01:43:30.000 Y'all come up here Friday, hit the fence.

01:43:32.000 You know, we bust, and then y'all got to get out before, you know what I mean?

01:43:35.000 The counselors come.

01:43:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:43:38.000 So we'd find ourselves going from different high schools.

01:43:41.000 We would ditch our own school to go up to different schools and rap against people.

01:43:47.000 But first time I really hit the stage, we did this contest called the Best Rappers of the West Contest.

01:43:56.000 And we entered our song.

01:44:00.000 Man, we made it all the way to the finals.

01:44:03.000 They did the finals at the Olympic Auditorium in LA. That's where they used to do all the old wrestling matches and fights.

01:44:12.000 So they used to do roller derby here too.

01:44:17.000 Thunderbirds.

01:44:18.000 And so, we there, we performed, Dre came, you know, Dre was in the world-class record crew, DJ crew, you know, so everybody there, our family, friends, and they messed up our tape.

01:44:30.000 Like, you know, our music was instrumental, but it was cassette.

01:44:36.000 And when they hit it, it was in the wrong spot.

01:44:38.000 They didn't rewind it.

01:44:39.000 So it was off cue and then they had to rewind it and then start over.

01:44:44.000 The thrill was gone.

01:44:46.000 We lost.

01:44:47.000 We came in second place.

01:44:48.000 And so that was my first taste of hitting the stage.

01:44:54.000 You knew that's what you wanted to do?

01:44:56.000 I loved it.

01:44:57.000 You know, I had a great time.

01:44:58.000 Yeah, I did.

01:44:59.000 And hanging with Dre more and more, you know, he saw us that night.

01:45:03.000 He knew we had got kind of robbed a little bit.

01:45:07.000 And he was like, we'll let y'all perform at Dudos, which is the club he DJed in Compton.

01:45:14.000 It's right down Central Avenue.

01:45:18.000 And we went down there, you know, it's a party, I mean, full of Bloods.

01:45:25.000 It's like full of Compton Bloods, Pyrus, all through this place.

01:45:30.000 This is right in their neighborhood.

01:45:33.000 And Dre is like, y'all better be good.

01:45:38.000 Y'all better be good, man.

01:45:39.000 I don't know what they gonna do.

01:45:41.000 They might throw shit at you, you know.

01:45:43.000 Might wanna fuck you up.

01:45:44.000 Y'all better be good.

01:45:46.000 That's all he kept saying.

01:45:47.000 So we were like, damn.

01:45:49.000 We gotta think of something clever.

01:45:50.000 We gotta be good.

01:45:51.000 We gotta be good.

01:45:52.000 So we started doing parody raps.

01:45:54.000 We'd take the hit song and do a dirty version of it.

01:45:59.000 Roxanne, Roxanne was the hit song that was out.

01:46:02.000 UTFO. And we made a song called Diane, Diane.

01:46:08.000 It went crazy.

01:46:09.000 It went crazy.

01:46:11.000 So we knew like, oh damn, this is a style.

01:46:15.000 Like, we can do our own raps hardcore like this.

01:46:21.000 We don't have to try to be, you know...

01:46:28.000 Fat boys.

01:46:28.000 We have to try to be...

01:46:30.000 Mainstreet.

01:46:31.000 Yeah, we can just give it to them raw how they want it.

01:46:34.000 Talk about the neighborhood, you know?

01:46:36.000 Yeah.

01:46:37.000 That's what we started doing.

01:46:38.000 So, that's interesting.

01:46:40.000 So, that sort of led to the way the band became, doing that show.

01:46:46.000 Yeah.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, and doing that show, we...

01:46:50.000 See, I wasn't in NW. I had my own group.

01:46:53.000 So...

01:46:56.000 We start working with EZ, and NWA is actually an all-star group.

01:47:02.000 It's easy kind of plucking different people from different groups, putting them together and saying, we're going to huddle up and make these dirty records.

01:47:14.000 And then after we finish, y'all can go back and make y'all clean little records.

01:47:18.000 That's kind of how NWA was formed.

01:47:21.000 Wow.

01:47:22.000 Yeah, so they grabbed Dre and Yella from Wrecking Crew.

01:47:26.000 They grabbed me.

01:47:26.000 I was in a group called Stereo Crew.

01:47:28.000 We changed our name to CIA. Criminals in Action, but Lonzo made us call ourselves Crew in Action because he was like, nobody gonna buy a record that said Criminals.

01:47:40.000 And then you had EZ, you know what I mean?

01:47:43.000 So we formed NWA. Wren came later.

01:47:47.000 When I went to school, that's when Wren came.

01:47:50.000 MC Wren.

01:47:50.000 So, yeah.

01:47:52.000 And then what happened is we do the record, it blow up, and everybody say...

01:47:57.000 Tell the groups, hey man, this shit is popping.

01:48:02.000 In no way in the world we are going back to being nobody in our groups.

01:48:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:09.000 We gotta run with this.

01:48:11.000 And it just...

01:48:11.000 I'm still running with it.

01:48:14.000 You were always known for your lyrics.

01:48:16.000 You're a great writer.

01:48:18.000 Like if you...

01:48:19.000 Did you always have that ability?

01:48:22.000 Did you write before you wrote lyrics?

01:48:25.000 Yeah.

01:48:26.000 But, you know, what I did when I was young, you know, the teachers would always ask, like, well, okay, what you do over summer vacation?

01:48:36.000 What'd you do?

01:48:37.000 Write down what you guys do.

01:48:40.000 So, mine would be Thorough, you know, I would be able to really explain everything that I did.

01:48:48.000 And they were really impressed.

01:48:50.000 My teachers were impressed that I could remember all that and put it in a comprehensive form where they can read, you know, my whole summer, really.

01:49:01.000 And so by getting those kind of, you know, Extra credit for being good or, you know, teacher hang your stuff up there.

01:49:13.000 You know, you're like, okay, I can do this.

01:49:16.000 I can do this.

01:49:17.000 Same with art, you know, and I actually, they had me do a speech.

01:49:24.000 During my sixth grade graduation, they asked me, would you go up there and address the graduation class?

01:49:32.000 So, you know, the writing, that speech, these things, I knew, okay, I could put words together, and I could speak them in front of a crowd, and it wasn't a nightmare.

01:49:46.000 So when it was time to rap and time to rhyme, which was a couple years later when I turned 14, then I was able to put it together and feel like, okay, I know how to write and I know how to rap.

01:50:01.000 So jump in front of the crowd and get busy.

01:50:04.000 That's amazing.

01:50:06.000 That's so interesting that that's the genesis of your writing because it makes sense.

01:50:11.000 Because your writing was always so thorough and well thought out.

01:50:14.000 And when you went solo, that was very evident.

01:50:17.000 It was very evident.

01:50:19.000 Like, this is great fucking writing.

01:50:21.000 The lyrics back then, that's my favorite era of hip-hop.

01:50:26.000 It's like early 90s, late 80s, early 90s, like in the East Coast, like Cool Mo D. Yeah.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, prolific.

01:50:36.000 Set the bar.

01:50:38.000 You know, those guys started to set the bar higher and higher.

01:50:43.000 And, you know, you had to keep up to even get attention.

01:50:47.000 So, you know, those early pioneers of hip-hop, even L.L. was, you know, amazing.

01:50:56.000 Lyricist, wordsmith, you know, the original Rock the Bells.

01:51:02.000 He's another guy who's done everything.

01:51:04.000 Yeah.

01:51:05.000 Movies, TV. I call him the hip-hop LeBron.

01:51:09.000 He's been doing this since he was 15 at the highest level and never came down.

01:51:15.000 And still looks great.

01:51:16.000 Yeah.

01:51:17.000 Still looks like a superstar.

01:51:20.000 So it's cool to be friends with these guys that I looked up to so much as a youngster.

01:51:30.000 There was a weird time.

01:51:32.000 The East Coast vs.

01:51:33.000 West Coast shit was very weird.

01:51:36.000 Yeah.

01:51:37.000 It was...

01:51:38.000 You know, people equate it to Tupac and shit.

01:51:43.000 I mean, Bad Boy and Death Row.

01:51:46.000 But it was actually bubbling before that.

01:51:49.000 It was, to me, an industry thing in a way.

01:51:53.000 Like, New York had the throne for so long.

01:51:57.000 And here go, well, at least a decade or more.

01:52:01.000 And here comes these West Coast rappers, you know, kind of taking their attention away.

01:52:10.000 And so the...

01:52:14.000 The industry people, it started to bubble up with them that, yo, we're doing real hip-hop, they're just doing gangster records, you know?

01:52:25.000 And so that started to kind of get into the artists, you know what I mean?

01:52:30.000 That sentiment started to poison the artists.

01:52:34.000 And an artist named Tim Dawg did a song called Fuck Compton, like, out of nowhere.

01:52:40.000 We was like, damn, we...

01:52:43.000 We like New York.

01:52:44.000 Why y'all, you know, why he take a shot?

01:52:47.000 And nobody really rebutted him.

01:52:52.000 Like, you know, they kind of let it slide.

01:52:54.000 And then more and more artists start taking shots.

01:52:59.000 Here and there.

01:53:00.000 And then the thing with Bad Boy and Death Row, it kind of just took it over the top.

01:53:10.000 It just made it, because they were the hottest labels.

01:53:14.000 You had the hottest label on the East Coast battling with the hottest label on the West Coast.

01:53:19.000 So that made that undercurrent of animosity that was growing blow all the way up and look like it was a feud.

01:53:30.000 How did that ever get resolved?

01:53:33.000 I think when Tupac got killed and then Biggie was murdered shortly after.

01:53:43.000 People realize this is a dead-end road.

01:53:47.000 Like, people stopped listening, really, to East Coast and West Coast at that time.

01:53:52.000 And that's how the immersion of the South came.

01:53:56.000 You know, the South was there bubbling.

01:53:58.000 They was doing their thing.

01:54:00.000 They had groups that were—that was making a dent.

01:54:04.000 But at one point— All the hip-hop fans were so fed up with the East Coast, West Coast beef that they said, you know, we're just gonna pay attention to what the South is doing.

01:54:16.000 You guys gotta heal your wounds and come back.

01:54:20.000 And so that's the emergence of the South and, you know, all the groups that came out.

01:54:26.000 Back then, were you touring on the East Coast?

01:54:30.000 Yeah.

01:54:30.000 So what was it like when you were touring on the East Coast in the middle of all that shit?

01:54:35.000 I mean, it was always love.

01:54:37.000 I mean, some fans took sides, but most of it was industry stuff, and they were kind of caught in the middle.

01:54:45.000 So I did a record called Bow Down with the West Side Connection, which we addressed a lot of the beef because we felt like...

01:54:57.000 Most of the industry was in New York at the time.

01:55:01.000 So we felt like if we didn't stand up for ourselves in some way, shape or form, what we accomplished the last decade would be erased and eroded and dismissed, discredited.

01:55:15.000 We wouldn't...

01:55:15.000 We would be played out.

01:55:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:18.000 We wouldn't have longevity.

01:55:21.000 So...

01:55:22.000 You know, there was, you know, back and forth.

01:55:25.000 But at the end of the day...

01:55:29.000 You know, Tupac being killed, Biggie being killed, was just a wake-up call for the whole industry.

01:55:37.000 That's sad that that's how the wake-up call had to go.

01:55:42.000 It's crazy.

01:55:43.000 Crazy.

01:55:44.000 Yeah.

01:55:44.000 I mean, I remember I was on news radio, on the set of news radio, when someone told me Tupac got killed.

01:55:52.000 And I remember thinking, how is that possible?

01:55:55.000 How is that real?

01:55:56.000 I, um...

01:55:59.000 Yeah, I just, you know, it was a new day.

01:56:02.000 Like, it's like, oh, we in a new era where celebrity means nothing.

01:56:10.000 You know, celebrity means nothing.

01:56:12.000 Anybody can get it.

01:56:14.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 So it's damn near like we back, where we started from back in the hood, you know, trying not to get it.

01:56:20.000 And here, you're a celebrity and you can still get it.

01:56:24.000 How dangerous did that feel to you back then?

01:56:30.000 You know, no more dangerous than it feels when any of people, you know, any person I know gets shot.

01:56:38.000 You know, it feels like, you know, damn.

01:56:41.000 You know, this never ends.

01:56:47.000 I don't remember taking Any more precaution than I usually would.

01:56:54.000 But I knew people, you know, some dudes was getting bulletproof trucks and shit and bulletproof vans and all this stuff.

01:57:04.000 I was like, nah, I ain't going to that extent.

01:57:08.000 It's just a crazy time in music history, too, because, you know, there'd never been like rock bands that were feuding with each other to the point where you were worried about people getting murdered.

01:57:19.000 No.

01:57:19.000 Not that I know of.

01:57:22.000 You know, rock bands do feud.

01:57:25.000 They usually don't do diss records either.

01:57:28.000 Right, right.

01:57:28.000 No, they just feud or they have subliminal, subliminal disses.

01:57:34.000 It's never like...

01:57:34.000 Yeah, the diss record thing was wild.

01:57:36.000 That was really the first time artists ever went after each other like that.

01:57:39.000 Yeah.

01:57:40.000 But, you know, it's like...

01:57:44.000 It's like sparring.

01:57:45.000 It's like battling.

01:57:46.000 It's like, you know, it's part of the game.

01:57:49.000 So it's welcomed in a way.

01:57:52.000 You know, you spar, you practice, you know how to fight, and then somebody get in your face and challenge you.

01:58:02.000 Like, okay, this is what we do.

01:58:03.000 This is rumble.

01:58:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:58:05.000 So it's like you grow up battling, you know, you got your raps, you say your cocky shit, you know what I mean?

01:58:13.000 And somebody wanna, you know, put it on wax and battle.

01:58:18.000 Like, we can battle on wax any day.

01:58:21.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:58:22.000 So, let's go for it.

01:58:25.000 When did it feel like, for you, all that shit sort of, like, went away?

01:58:29.000 Like, the feud stuff, the...

01:58:32.000 When did it seem like it was just back to just making music?

01:58:36.000 Um...

01:58:36.000 For some reason, I think, um...

01:58:44.000 Like, 9-11?

01:58:45.000 Like, that tragedy of 9-11?

01:58:48.000 For some reason, like, it seemed like from then the feuding stopped.

01:58:53.000 And people kind of reassessed and reorganized their thought process when it comes to that.

01:59:01.000 Like, they...

01:59:02.000 It was like...

01:59:05.000 That's when it seemed like a ceasefire just was the best thing to do.

01:59:12.000 Because, you know, like the country went through a crazy shake-up.

01:59:19.000 It was a trip.

01:59:23.000 You know, you had groups like Rockin' the Red, White, and Blue, and they was like into, you know, It's patriotism and really into, you know, uh-oh,

01:59:38.000 you know, we got other forces out there that's trying to take down New York City, you know what I mean?

01:59:46.000 We can't be hating on New York after that.

01:59:51.000 Like, we all gotta...

01:59:53.000 Band together.

01:59:54.000 That was the sentiment.

01:59:55.000 It's crazy that sometimes it takes something like that, like a national tragedy to wake people up to what's really important.

02:00:01.000 Yeah, major shake-up.

02:00:04.000 So how the fuck did you go from N.W.A., your solo career, and then movies, And then, family movies.

02:00:16.000 Like, was there like a resistance for that?

02:00:19.000 People like, did you listen to his old shit?

02:00:24.000 You know?

02:00:25.000 I mean, because people were taking their kids to see those movies, and then those kids became Ice Cube fans, and then they go into your old shit, and like, wow!

02:00:32.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a great, it's kind of like, you know, they're caught in the Ice Cube vortex in a way, you know what I'm saying?

02:00:42.000 Because here's how it happened.

02:00:48.000 I'm in the NWA. I go solo.

02:00:52.000 I'm just trying to be the best rapper in the world.

02:00:54.000 That's all I'm concerned about.

02:00:56.000 And I meet this kid, John Singleton, who's an intern.

02:01:01.000 I meet him at the Arsenio Hall Show.

02:01:03.000 He's an intern there.

02:01:05.000 I'm there to talk to Arsenio to say, dude, You had 2 Live Crew on, why don't you have N.W.A. on?

02:01:13.000 So, never had that conversation with Arsenio, because John Singleton is talking my ear off.

02:01:20.000 And he's like, I'm a junior at USC, I'm going to put you in a movie.

02:01:25.000 I'm like, dude, what?

02:01:29.000 I'm not an actor.

02:01:30.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:31.000 I thought you had to go to Juilliard for 18 years to be an actor.

02:01:35.000 So I'm like, what?

02:01:36.000 What you talking about, man?

02:01:37.000 Nah.

02:01:38.000 And then he pursued me.

02:01:40.000 Two years, dude.

02:01:42.000 Two years.

02:01:44.000 And then he finally said, yo, I got the movie.

02:01:48.000 We're going to do it.

02:01:49.000 And so that was Boys in the Hood.

02:01:52.000 So...

02:01:53.000 He discovered me.

02:01:55.000 That's how I got into movies.

02:01:57.000 And when we're doing that movie, he's saying, when you gonna write a movie?

02:02:03.000 I'm like, what?

02:02:05.000 Dude, what are you talking about?

02:02:07.000 Why you keep hitting me with this stuff that I don't do?

02:02:10.000 He said, man, you can write a song like that.

02:02:13.000 You can write a movie like that.

02:02:15.000 I'm like, okay.

02:02:17.000 I go by a computer that same day, and Final Draft, which is a script writing, And I start writing a script.

02:02:26.000 Don't know one thing about writing a script.

02:02:28.000 Just start writing one.

02:02:30.000 It was terrible, but he helped me.

02:02:33.000 He just kept telling me, keep writing.

02:02:36.000 More pages.

02:02:37.000 Keep going until you finish it.

02:02:41.000 Long story short, I end up, a few years later, writing Friday.

02:02:46.000 Friday, 1995, comes out.

02:02:50.000 Big cult classic.

02:02:53.000 So...

02:02:56.000 As the years go on, I got these little kids coming to me doing all these cuss lines from Friday.

02:03:04.000 I'm like, what's your little ass doing watching Friday?

02:03:08.000 So I did another movie called Barbershop.

02:03:13.000 Now, that's an already comedy Friday.

02:03:15.000 So I do Barbershop.

02:03:17.000 It's...

02:03:19.000 Good reaction.

02:03:20.000 People love it.

02:03:21.000 It's PG-13.

02:03:23.000 So the movie is bigger because it appeals to a bigger audience.

02:03:32.000 So I'm like, damn, we was able to work it at rated R. We were able to work it at PG-13.

02:03:39.000 What if I did a PG movie?

02:03:42.000 Because I still got little kids coming to me talking about, you got knocked the fuck out, man.

02:03:47.000 Seven.

02:03:49.000 I need to do something for your little seven-year-old ass so you don't have to go watch Friday.

02:03:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:56.000 You should be watching Friday when you get about 11, 12, not seven.

02:04:01.000 So I was like, you know, I was with Revolution, Joe Rolfe over at Revolution, and he was like, yo...

02:04:10.000 We got this movie that Adam Sandler was going to do, but he can't do it.

02:04:14.000 Will you take a look at it?

02:04:16.000 And I said, yeah, I'll take a look at it.

02:04:17.000 And it was, are we there yet?

02:04:21.000 I'm like, oh, this is a kid's movie.

02:04:22.000 He's like, yeah, that's okay.

02:04:25.000 I think I can tailor-make it where it fits me.

02:04:29.000 But, yeah, let's give it a try.

02:04:31.000 And we do it.

02:04:33.000 And, of course, everybody go apeshit.

02:04:36.000 Cube, you gangster.

02:04:37.000 What you doing these kids' movies for?

02:04:38.000 What's wrong with you?

02:04:39.000 What the hell's going on, man?

02:04:41.000 You don't got to suck.

02:04:42.000 All this stuff they was talking, right?

02:04:44.000 So, movie comes out, and kids, like, lose their mind.

02:04:50.000 They love the movie.

02:04:51.000 So now, this is the vortex, right?

02:04:56.000 They come in.

02:04:58.000 They love Are We There Yet?

02:05:00.000 5, 6, 7, 8...

02:05:03.000 By the time they get 10 or 11, somebody done show them barbershop or maybe Friday.

02:05:10.000 So they love me from Are We There Yet?

02:05:14.000 Now they love me from Friday.

02:05:15.000 And then somebody says, listen to this.

02:05:19.000 And hands them my music when they get about 15, 14. And they say, I love this guy.

02:05:27.000 And I got fans all ages who love Ice Cube because they've been, like, walked up from Are We There Yet?

02:05:40.000 to Barbershop to Friday to my music, which is a whole different animal.

02:05:47.000 I don't think there's anybody else like that, that has that varied of a career.

02:05:53.000 Um, I don't know.

02:05:54.000 I haven't thought about it, but it's pretty cool and dynamic.

02:05:59.000 You know, I know I met your daughter.

02:06:01.000 She's 27. Yeah, and first thing she was exposed to is I'm not there yet.

02:06:06.000 Yeah, she's a fan.

02:06:08.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:06:08.000 So that movie was a way to stay connected to the younger generation always without the parents saying Do you know who this is?

02:06:18.000 This is Ice Cube.

02:06:19.000 He used to be blah blah blah and blah blah blah.

02:06:23.000 Now the kids know who I am before the parents even have to point it out.

02:06:28.000 Yeah.

02:06:29.000 So it's been a great thing for my career as far as longevity and gaining new fans without necessarily having to have a new hit record.

02:06:40.000 Right, right, right.

02:06:41.000 You have a giant library of content.

02:06:45.000 Yes.

02:06:45.000 And it's cool because You know, there's always going to be kids, always going to be new kids.

02:06:55.000 There's always going to be something for parents to try to shove in front of them, to watch, to take their time.

02:07:01.000 And are we there?

02:07:02.000 It's a cool option, you know what I'm saying?

02:07:04.000 And then we did Are We Done Yet?

02:07:06.000 And people were asking me, when are you going to do the next one?

02:07:10.000 And I'm like, y'all want a third one?

02:07:12.000 Okay, let's think about it.

02:07:14.000 Are you going to do a third one?

02:07:15.000 We'll see.

02:07:15.000 We've got to talk to Joe and Revolution.

02:07:19.000 You know, get it right.

02:07:21.000 When I found out that you wrote Friday, I was like, that's insane.

02:07:24.000 That's incredible.

02:07:26.000 Yeah, me and DJ Pooh.

02:07:27.000 That's a funny fucking movie.

02:07:29.000 Yeah.

02:07:29.000 Yeah, it is, you know?

02:07:31.000 I mean, DJ Pooh, he's one of those, he's like one of those undercover geniuses that been involved in a lot of hip-hop.

02:07:40.000 I mean, he helped LL do Going Back to Cali.

02:07:44.000 You know what I mean?

02:07:45.000 Wow.

02:07:45.000 He's been around forever, and We're all fans of Poo.

02:07:52.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:07:53.000 And Poo is funny.

02:07:56.000 He technical.

02:07:58.000 He's the one who got Rockstar to do the Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

02:08:08.000 That whole, you know, like take it from Miami and put it in LA. You know what I mean?

02:08:13.000 Take it from the Miami dope culture to the LA gang culture.

02:08:17.000 So, he's the one who's behind the scenes with stuff like that, and he helped me write Friday.

02:08:23.000 He produced It Was A Good Day, the song.

02:08:28.000 So, whenever we're together, it's just magic.

02:08:32.000 And we wrote Friday because we were watching In Living Color, and we loved Hollywood Shuffle by Robert Townsend.

02:08:44.000 And we was like, Let's write a movie about the neighborhood.

02:08:49.000 Because everything that was coming out was depressing.

02:08:53.000 It was colors, boys in the hood, minister society, South Central.

02:08:59.000 It was like, yo, this is a hell zone.

02:09:01.000 And we was like...

02:09:04.000 Did you remember it like that?

02:09:07.000 Don't we laugh around here all the time?

02:09:10.000 Like, let's show how it really is for us around here.

02:09:14.000 And so that's how Friday kind of germinated and became like, yo, we're going to show our version of how we have fun in South Central.

02:09:26.000 That is an all-time classic.

02:09:28.000 Yeah, it's a movie that I get commented on more than any other.

02:09:34.000 Like, people quote it, love it.

02:09:36.000 Yeah.

02:09:37.000 The characters are iconic.

02:09:39.000 People dress up.

02:09:41.000 When you know you got a line like, you got knocked the fuck out, that gets repeated for decades.

02:09:47.000 Yeah.

02:09:48.000 Yeah.

02:09:48.000 I mean, I knew it was one of those lines because I had never heard it in a movie before when somebody got knocked out.

02:09:59.000 And I'm like, yeah, this is what he's going to say when he jump over him and look down on him.

02:10:04.000 Like, you got knocked the fuck out.

02:10:06.000 How many times have you seen that on a world?

02:10:08.000 Yeah.

02:10:11.000 How many times have you seen that on World Star Hip Hop now, though?

02:10:14.000 All the time.

02:10:15.000 It's just that everybody yells.

02:10:16.000 Yeah.

02:10:17.000 If someone goes down, it's automatic.

02:10:19.000 It's automatic.

02:10:19.000 Yeah.

02:10:20.000 You know, that's, as an artist, that's all you want is to have a couple classics that people remember you for, you know, when you're 80 in a cafe, you know, drinking coffee,

02:10:35.000 somebody would run up and be like, yo, Craig, what's up?

02:10:38.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:39.000 That's all you want.

02:10:41.000 That's amazing.

02:10:43.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want now.

02:10:46.000 What do you enjoy doing most?

02:10:50.000 Creating, you know, on all levels.

02:10:52.000 That's what get my juices going is being in the lab, the creative process, whether it's music.

02:11:03.000 Movies, TV, documentaries, or sports.

02:11:09.000 It's being creative.

02:11:11.000 It's being part of the mix.

02:11:15.000 When I go on movies and I'm just an actor, I'll be like...

02:11:20.000 Damn.

02:11:21.000 This is so boring.

02:11:23.000 Just sitting around waiting to act.

02:11:25.000 I like to be in the producers' meetings.

02:11:28.000 I like to know what's going on, what's on the set.

02:11:30.000 Did we get that stunt?

02:11:32.000 We're going to still do that stunt at 3 o'clock.

02:11:34.000 I just need to Be part of the mix to stay, you know, motivated and interested.

02:11:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:11:42.000 But if I'm just a piece of the puzzle and kind of sitting off to the side waiting to be used, like a tool-like, it's not as cool for me.

02:11:52.000 Understandable.

02:11:53.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 Why would it be?

02:11:54.000 And you don't have to do that anymore.

02:11:56.000 Yeah, you know, so I want to be in the mix.

02:11:59.000 You know, I want to be in the kitchen cooking it.

02:12:02.000 I don't just want to sit down and eat it.

02:12:04.000 No matter what it is.

02:12:05.000 No matter what it is.

02:12:06.000 If I'm going to be a part of it, I got to be in the kitchen.

02:12:08.000 I can't just play a...

02:12:12.000 Look, I've acted in movies.

02:12:14.000 You know, I did 21 Jump Street.

02:12:17.000 I did Three Kings, you know, where I'm just an actor.

02:12:21.000 And I'm fine with that.

02:12:23.000 You know, don't think...

02:12:24.000 Okay, we can't hire Q because he just want to produce but but I like to produce and I think I add a lot to to the movies that I produce and The movies I produce you can watch over and over and over again and never get tired Yeah,

02:12:40.000 no, it's a you've had an amazing career So when you just decided you just do you kind of just do whatever you're interested in now like whatever you feel like pursuing Yeah, that's a beautiful freedom It is.

02:12:52.000 Because, you know, I'm not playing the game no more.

02:12:55.000 Like, I don't play the radio game.

02:12:58.000 Like, how many spins did I get on that song?

02:13:01.000 How many spins?

02:13:02.000 I look at Ice Cube fans like clientele.

02:13:07.000 I just want to serve them, give them what they like, give them what they love, and go back to the lab.

02:13:13.000 I'm not worried about charts and All these measuring sticks on if you're good or not or is your work good, you know, views or whatever.

02:13:25.000 I'm into doing dope shit that I feel and giving it to the people that want it.

02:13:34.000 That's beautiful.

02:13:35.000 It's great for an artist.

02:13:37.000 It's a beautiful life.

02:13:38.000 It's pretty...

02:13:39.000 I'm pretty blessed in that aspect because I know guys and I know people who are Bigger than me on major labels, and they're miserable because they're so scheduled and structured,

02:13:57.000 and they feel obligated because this and that going on.

02:14:04.000 And I don't want to feel obligated when I'm making music to the people who's spending money.

02:14:11.000 I want to make the music I feel, and if you like it, spend money on it.

02:14:16.000 Well, you have a very wise philosophy on how to live your life.

02:14:21.000 Because, like, just the way you describe, like, talking about rich people, there's a lot of rich people that are miserable as fuck.

02:14:26.000 You don't want to be rich.

02:14:26.000 You want to be happy.

02:14:27.000 Yes.

02:14:28.000 You'd rather be less rich and more happy.

02:14:31.000 Without a doubt.

02:14:34.000 Like, whatever it is, you know, whatever it is, man, it's more important to be happy doing it.

02:14:41.000 Yeah.

02:14:42.000 And...

02:14:43.000 I notice when you're happy doing things and when you love what you do and when you put your all into it, you know, the money comes.

02:14:52.000 When you focus on the money and you're doing things to get the money, you're never happy doing it or rarely happy doing it.

02:15:03.000 At the end of the day, you wish you could have got more money, so you're not even happy with what you would pay.

02:15:10.000 It also doesn't resonate with people the same way.

02:15:12.000 It resonates with people when you do what you love.

02:15:14.000 When you do what you love and it comes out, especially when you're talking about music.

02:15:18.000 You do what you love, people get it.

02:15:20.000 They feel it.

02:15:20.000 They feel it from the work.

02:15:22.000 And if you're just doing it because you're hoping it's going to be successful, people feel that too.

02:15:26.000 Yeah, or just doing what you think is a hit.

02:15:29.000 That's the worst thing an artist can do is to go try to make a hit.

02:15:39.000 You gotta make a good song.

02:15:42.000 Damn if it's a hit.

02:15:44.000 A good song is a good song whether it's played a thousand times or once.

02:15:49.000 That's what you focus on, making good music.

02:15:54.000 Whether it's a hit or not, that's in the stars.

02:16:00.000 Where do you think you got this wisdom to look at things so objectively and clearly?

02:16:10.000 I think You know, when I look at how I grew up, like my pops is an independent man, independent thinker.

02:16:22.000 It's not part of any club or any organization or any fraternity or any Gang or any...

02:16:32.000 It's no man that can come and tell him what to do unless he's at work.

02:16:38.000 So, I like that.

02:16:42.000 And I saw him stand on his own two feet.

02:16:47.000 He moved to LA when he was 19 years old from Louisiana.

02:16:52.000 And so, he's been a man that handled his business from day one.

02:16:57.000 So, I think he's the foundation of how I view things.

02:17:06.000 And living and being young, thrown into the fire, you know, seem like every time I look up, there's something that needs my focus and attention that's trying to take down what I've built.

02:17:23.000 So I... I'm always paying attention.

02:17:28.000 I never go in something blind and I try to understand all the angles before I make a decision.

02:17:42.000 That's very fortunate that you had a father like that.

02:17:44.000 I am.

02:17:45.000 I thank him all the time for just hanging around.

02:17:49.000 The statistics are what they are.

02:17:53.000 And As men, we gotta raise our kids, you know what I mean?

02:17:59.000 We gotta be there.

02:18:03.000 As much as we can.

02:18:07.000 It makes a difference.

02:18:09.000 It makes a difference with the person that you're raising and the person that you're sending out into the world.

02:18:18.000 You want to give your family stability.

02:18:25.000 Fathers can do a lot of that.

02:18:27.000 They can do a lot of that.

02:18:28.000 Yeah.

02:18:28.000 It's got to feel great for you to see your son taking off like this.

02:18:34.000 Yeah.

02:18:34.000 Like with the wisdom that you got from your father that your son is obviously, he's acquired that as well.

02:18:40.000 Mm-hmm.

02:18:41.000 He works hard.

02:18:42.000 It's great, man.

02:18:43.000 You know, all you want to do is you want your kids to step up in the moment of truth.

02:18:50.000 You know what I mean?

02:18:50.000 You want them to do what it takes at the time that It's mandatory or the situation arise that they can step up.

02:19:02.000 Even if it's taking out the trash.

02:19:04.000 Like, you tell your kid, hey, take out the trash.

02:19:08.000 When I get back, I want this done.

02:19:11.000 And when you get back and it's done...

02:19:14.000 You feel better as a parent.

02:19:16.000 Yeah.

02:19:17.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:18.000 You feel like, okay, they stepped up when they needed to, when I asked them to.

02:19:24.000 And it makes you feel good that you got people that you're sending out in the world that are dependable and responsible and not trying to fuck over nobody.

02:19:36.000 Yeah, fuck yeah.

02:19:37.000 No, that's one of the greatest accomplishments you can make as a human being.

02:19:41.000 You made the world better by raising better people.

02:19:44.000 Yeah, raise good people.

02:19:49.000 You know, that's the number one job of a parent, I believe, is to raise a good person.

02:19:56.000 Because the world don't need another asshole.

02:19:59.000 Trust me.

02:20:00.000 We don't need another one.

02:20:02.000 We got plenty.

02:20:03.000 Yeah, we got plenty.

02:20:04.000 We're all full.

02:20:04.000 For show show.

02:20:06.000 But it's also great that you set a standard with maybe people that don't even have a father figure, that you set a standard with your words, the way you talk about things, and address things, and think about things, and you're so thorough, that you set a standard with other young kids that admire you,

02:20:21.000 too, which is beautiful.

02:20:22.000 That's good.

02:20:23.000 You know, that's great.

02:20:24.000 And I'm blessed to be in a position to do that.

02:20:28.000 I want to do that.

02:20:31.000 I hope I'm a good example on I have fun with the music and the entertainment and this and that, but I want to be a solid person.

02:20:45.000 Say what I mean, mean what I say, and do what I say.

02:20:54.000 All you got is your balls and your word, man.

02:20:56.000 That's it.

02:20:58.000 Tony Montana.

02:20:59.000 That's all you got.

02:21:00.000 That's all you got.

02:21:01.000 Yeah.

02:21:02.000 No, you've done it, and you've done it in an amazing way.

02:21:05.000 You set a great standard.

02:21:07.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:21:11.000 You have too.

02:21:12.000 You know, you are a great communicator, you know what I mean?

02:21:19.000 And people need to hear somebody with courage speak for the people when others are so scared to, you know, some of the things that...

02:21:30.000 That you said today, you know, a lot of people would be scared to even bring that stuff up, man.

02:21:37.000 Well, it's what you said.

02:21:38.000 If you can, you should.

02:21:40.000 When you got the mic, use it.

02:21:41.000 Yeah, and I can, so I do.

02:21:43.000 When you got the mic, use it.

02:21:45.000 Someone has to.

02:21:46.000 It's a wild-ass fucking time.

02:21:48.000 It is, man, and...

02:21:52.000 We need people to step up that we trust.

02:21:54.000 We don't need no more people to let us down than we believe in.

02:22:00.000 Absolutely.

02:22:02.000 Listen, brother, I appreciate you very much.

02:22:04.000 It was an honor to have you in here.

02:22:05.000 I've been a giant fan since the 80s, which is crazy.

02:22:09.000 I appreciate everything you do, man.

02:22:12.000 Appreciate you too, man.

02:22:13.000 You know, you're great at what you do.

02:22:15.000 You got me into UFC. You gonna watch next weekend?

02:22:20.000 Yeah, I'm gonna watch.

02:22:21.000 Volkanovski, Yair Rodriguez.

02:22:24.000 It's your passion for the sport, your knowledge of the sport, your breakdown, your ability to go back and say, you know, the origin of this move and the origin of this move Really got me into the game,

02:22:41.000 so you're an excellent communicator, and I appreciate you letting me on your show.

02:22:48.000 My pleasure.

02:22:49.000 It was an honor.

02:22:50.000 Thank you very much.

02:22:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:22:51.000 All right.

02:22:51.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 29, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #2004 - Ice Cube

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