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00:00:58.000In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when many scientific breakthroughs happened, the white lab coat started to symbolize cleanliness and scientific rigor.
00:01:09.000Not only it made doctors and scientists easily distinguishable, but it also made spotting any contamination easier.
00:01:57.000Because if you had a guy who's dressed like in a golf shirt with like shorts on and a pair of Nikes, and he's like ruling judgment on things, you'd be like, fuck that guy.
00:03:16.000The idea is that there's no such thing as a successful cult, and that's really just not true.
00:03:21.000Okay, the words cult and occult are popular terms that should not be confused as one or other.
00:03:26.000So what are the differences between them?
00:03:28.000The term cult typically is used by the secular media to describe religious or semi-religious groups whose members are controlled in almost every single respect by a single individual.
00:03:41.000Some good examples are Hari Christians and Scientologists.
00:03:44.000But that's not like a single individual.
00:03:46.000I don't think that's a good definition.
00:04:30.000You know, and I think probably, I mean, it would be safe to say that a successful cult passes that barrier between, what the fuck, you guys believe that shit?
00:04:44.000To, what the fuck, you don't believe that shit?
00:04:46.000Like, your cult doctrine becomes the, like, language of truth.
00:05:00.000Yeah, but that seems to be just a natural pattern for human thinking and behaving, that we, for whatever reason, naturally fall into groupthink.
00:05:28.000If you're in a situation that you don't know how to handle, you want the person who's the best at handling the situation to say, here's what we do.
00:07:58.000They didn't focus on proper grammar or how to structure a good sentence.
00:08:05.000They focused on a particular act, whether it's swimming or whether it's chess.
00:08:10.000They focused on whether it's playing guitar, playing pool.
00:08:15.000I've met brilliant people playing pool.
00:08:17.000I think I told you about my friend Johnny.
00:08:20.000Who could do complex math in his head.
00:08:23.000I mean, not complex, but math in his head.
00:08:27.000So what you would do, one guy would have a calculator, and we would do this at the pool hall, and then we would go 300 divided by 5 minus 4 plus 16 times 2, and he would bang.
00:10:08.000I met a kid who was 16 years old, and he was a chess wizard who wanted to hang out with the bad boys.
00:10:14.000It was really interesting, because he was like this super nerd that all of a sudden he was hanging out with these guys who were smoking and gambling, and he was 16 in this really rough pool hall.
00:10:24.000And he would sit down with this guy who just got out of jail.
00:10:27.000And this guy just got out of jail and in jail learned how to play chess in his head.
00:10:55.000And there was no arguments, by the way.
00:10:58.000It's just, you know, you hear about, you know, I think we talked about it at the mothership the other night, but you hear about people who perceive numbers as colors or something, or it's like their brain has made a different connection.
00:11:12.000Because if you think about what our eyes do with photons, that's insane.
00:11:19.000That instantaneously it forms Time-space around you with, like, zero effort.
00:11:26.000Like, it's interpreting all this data, color, wavelengths, all that shit.
00:18:34.000And then also the effort you take to have a stress-free environment.
00:18:38.000The effort that you take to put out as little bullshit as you can and to be nice to people as often as you can and just sort of keep harmonious, fun people around you.
00:18:56.000If I'm going through something like some friends of mine are squabbling and I have to get in between them and have conversations, I fucking hate it.
00:19:54.000The less bullshit you have in your life, whether it's bullshit that you have to deal with because you didn't exercise, or your body's breaking down, it's like car maintenance.
00:20:04.000Like, if you just don't ever change your oil, you could go a long time.
00:20:09.000I dated this girl once when I was 22, and she told me she had never changed the oil in her car.
00:23:14.000Even though I don't think I was, your volume might be different or something.
00:23:19.000We were having a conversation about this last night in the green room, too.
00:23:22.000It's like the way we talk to each other as comics, like, you know, everyone had a story of how they talk to their wife or their spouse like a comic once.
00:23:33.000You know, like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen?
00:23:36.000You know, where, like, the way you would say something to me, like, if I did something really stupid, you're like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen?
00:26:45.000Once you start applying this to everybody and you realize a lot of times we're using a mode of communication based on our experience with our particular job or business or whatever and trying to get other people or even the way you were raised.
00:27:08.000And then those people enter into conversations thinking that everyone else understands what it's like to come out of that kind of universe, man.
00:27:18.000And then you're like, you're an asshole.
00:29:42.000It was an idea and now it's a real thing.
00:29:45.000I had the wildest idea about ideas once.
00:29:49.000What if ideas are a life form and the way they manifest in reality?
00:29:55.000They get into a person's brain and then influence that person to take action to create them.
00:30:03.000The same way a parasite will get into a grasshopper's brain, like those aquatic worms, and they convince the grasshopper to commit suicide so that they can be born.
00:33:16.000The Faustian bargain was the, according to the person who invented it, was the inspiration for technology that we are still using today.
00:33:27.000So then you go back and you think, Well, what inspired Goethe?
00:33:33.000You know, and then you realize it's like this crazy wave of, like it ripples through time.
00:33:39.000Like somebody gets inspired, writes it down, it's beautiful.
00:33:45.000I don't know how long passed between when he wrote that and Tesla had his vision, but Certainly, obviously, Goethe probably had no idea that when he spent the time writing that thing and trusted to write it down, he was gonna warp the entire planet.
00:34:03.000His poem was gonna ripple out and warp the entire planet just from a poem.
00:35:07.000It's like they mimic, and I'm not just saying this because my wife's pregnant, they mimic childbirth in the sense that there's some kind of gestation period.
00:35:16.000You're inseminated with your inspiration.
00:35:18.000Then you've got to start growing it, and then the phases of growing it can be really torturous and long.
00:35:28.000Somewhere in there, you're like, this sucks.
00:35:30.000This is really the dumbest thing of all time.
00:35:34.000And then you keep working on it and maybe you realize that's true or you fix it.
00:36:03.000Let's say that number is 100. I have 100...
00:36:07.000Banned 100 units that I have for my information, for what I'm allowed to think about, what I can use my brain for.
00:36:15.000Anytime I put stuff in there that's nonsense, anytime I put stuff in there that's negative or unproductive, unless it's funny, anytime I'm putting stuff in there, That's taking away from all my other stuff.
00:36:33.000And one thing that people need to understand is that one of the things your brain will do to protect yourself from, whether it's the pressure of success or succeeding or accomplishing things, your brain will, when you're presented with the stress of trying to accomplish something,
00:36:52.000it will put extra emphasis on all these stupid things in your life to distract you.
00:36:58.000And it almost like protects you from the stress of having to do the work.
00:37:04.000And you see people sabotage their lives, sabotage their careers.
00:37:09.000You see it happen to artists, musicians, fighters, comedians.
00:37:13.000It's a normal thing that we do just as human beings.
00:37:17.000You get freaked out by what you know you should do, so you spend more time paying attention to the things that you shouldn't do.
00:37:32.000And based, at least my own assessment of it, it's based on the delusion that the feeling of procrastination is less painful than the feeling of doing your work.
00:38:00.000General sense of like, I'm a piece of shit because you're not doing it.
00:38:05.000And then when you finally get around to doing it, you realize the thing you didn't want to do is so fun most of the time.
00:38:13.000Engaging, interesting, but if nothing else, you feel so much better because you're finally taking care of it.
00:38:18.000And you realize all that anxiety, all that...
00:38:22.000If you somehow could quantify the amount of anxiety you're going to feel procrastinating versus the amount of anxiety you're going to feel doing something, You know what I mean?
00:38:31.000It's exponentially more anxiety from procrastinating.
00:41:10.000You just have to exercise for long periods of time and be very consistent.
00:41:15.000You made me picture in my head how fucked up it would be to come home Your dog is laying in bed playing video games with like some Kleenex on the floor next to it.
00:42:15.000That's gonna be a real problem sometime soon, anyway.
00:42:19.000They're gonna invent something that allows you to orgasm with your mind.
00:42:23.000There's gonna be some neural link type deal where once they tap into functions of the mind and start expanding the abilities of these neural link type...
00:42:54.000You know, man, before we become aliens, which I honestly, I buy into that idea, but before we become aliens, all the weird shit in between us becoming aliens, that's the part that, like, the Neuralink stuff,
00:43:09.000the inevitable, whatever the brain interface shows up as, the Inevitable day that someone hacks into whatever the server is that's dishing out Feelings or whatever it is to people attached.
00:44:42.000Tension between those two things is the the worse your life is gonna be but the yeah, man It's just weird to think about that like no matter what no matter how professional a person presents as no matter how like They've got it together.
00:44:58.000Yeah, you never take spaghetti baths They could go home and just cover themselves in spaghetti and and cry a lot of crying Yeah, so that to me is interesting.
00:45:09.000Like, within society is a whole hidden realm.
00:45:14.000And specifically, as far as I'm aware, no one has seen a president come in the public.
00:46:24.000Imagine if I knew some horrible dark secrets about you and you came over my house and I have a giant painting of you right when you walk into the front door.
00:48:34.000We're talking about the Epstein-Clinton painting and how, you know, sort of like the implication of anything like that or the reminder of anything like that is because our leaders are human and humans are culpable and hackable and it's easier to invade a country or take over a country by just control the leader.
00:48:57.000There's obviously people who would love to do that.
00:49:00.000And Probably try, would try, and have probably succeeded a few times, meaning that our understanding of democracy as, like, the president represents the people, it's,
00:49:31.000Because if it was, well, they would never, if you had an enormous organization that controls everything, you control everything in the country, would you really let a new person just run it every four years in whatever way they like?
00:49:56.000You're running various agencies and like, wouldn't you make sure over time that you secured enough control that the president really is just sort of a figurehead?
00:52:06.000What do they call it where they don't know the investments being made?
00:52:09.000I just happen to have a really good business dude who invested the $10,000 I saved up before I became president and it turned into millions.
00:52:17.000The most transparent one is speaking fees.
00:52:21.000Because speaking fees are a way that you can give people money.
00:52:45.000So you have some sort of financial arrangement, but that financial arrangement is about speaking fees.
00:52:51.000See, this is what I'm talking about, man.
00:52:53.000This is the liminal or subliminal part of the human experience.
00:53:01.000What you're talking about right now is upsetting to people.
00:53:06.000But also, a lot of people will say, you're not even supposed to say that.
00:53:11.000And even though it's true, even though it's in plain sight, trackable, traceable, precedent for it in the past, not even that astounding.
00:53:21.000You are supposed to like rest in this strange dream world where human beings experiencing some of the most power you can have in the world don't go a little or totally or completely insane or don't get hijacked or don't get like we're supposed to pretend that doesn't happen right when you look at the president look like Does Biden seem like
00:56:52.000We gotta take it easy on these people.
00:56:54.000And again, even though it is mainstream news, that's what I like that's so brilliant about it, is that they're just like, yeah, you know, it's a pot.
00:57:05.000We had a pot, and it goes in the same pot.
00:59:15.000It's very wild that they just keep printing money.
00:59:19.000Jacking up the inflation, printing money.
00:59:22.000I love that one because mixed into the printing money thing, which obviously I have money printers.
00:59:28.000What's really funny about that is somehow people believe that that money is like doesn't go just right hot off the press to like people in the building.
00:59:39.000Like, or that it doesn't like some of that money gets shifted around and like, you know, or some of it is printed.
00:59:45.000And I know I'm sure there's like, no, there's securities in place.
01:01:15.000I mean, it's gotten increasingly like, you know, you talk about the, I love it, the race, the evolutionary race, like every time, like a gazelle has to get a little bit faster.
01:01:25.000And then if it's getting faster, the predator has to increase its speed.
01:01:29.000And so there's this like evolutionary pressure.
01:01:54.000We'll pay for it with the money we print.
01:01:57.000LAUGHTER We'll take the loan print the money and pay for it and then they're like fuck they figured out duplication technique and then Our hologram technique and then they're like fuck we got to put something else in there and then it's just a never-ending I Imagine like how long before we're a cashless society Hopefully forever dude.
01:02:35.000I mean, it's like I don't even do anything interesting with my money.
01:02:40.000Tip on the road like you know I use my card and I know that's the argument is that's traceable I realize that but it's scary because it there's an option you want to just like blow some cash on something you can't you could just like no one will know it's the whatever it is right not that I would ever use cash for anything other than legal purposes it's just like that you know what I mean like the like one day in the future everything will be traceable That's right.
01:03:08.000And that's, you know, this is where I get, this is where being raised an Episcopalian, in the Book of Revelations, as a Christian, you're going to read it.
01:03:18.000This is where I get scared, because it's too similar.
01:03:22.000It's too similar to exactly what it says.
01:03:25.000You won't be able to trade, you won't be able to do anything unless you have the mark, unless you bear the mark.
01:04:11.000Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth.
01:04:14.000It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.
01:04:17.000It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.
01:04:28.000It performs great signs, even making fire come down from the heaven to earth in front of people.
01:04:35.000And by the signs that it allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
01:04:48.000And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
01:05:24.000Let the one who is understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. You know what's so wild about that stuff?
01:06:24.000Translated as Mark of the Beast in Revelation 1316 can also mean any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded, stamped money, document, or coin.
01:06:34.000The Mark of the Beast is interpreted differently across the four main views of Christian eschatology.
01:07:25.000So you realize suddenly, like, within it...
01:07:28.000Is this psychedelic cosmology that in the beginning there was truth, there was this truth, reality, and then that truth manifested, extruded itself into time-space for a second to talk about heaven or to talk about the real reality outside the simulator,
01:08:11.000And then, and then that was the, like Jesus is a representation of that, the manifestation of that possibility of like pure truth appearing in a world of darkness.
01:08:24.000Regardless of historical truth or whatever, that's just a beautiful and deep, heavy way of talking about parallel universes or the possibility of things happening on a planet where people have gotten completely lost,
01:08:45.000where suddenly in the midst of that, something appears that isn't lost, that is like...
01:08:51.000A pure representation of a higher consciousness or something.
01:09:25.000John, not synoptic, and has all this weird shit in it.
01:09:29.000And not that any of the other stuff isn't weird, but particularly weird stuff in it.
01:09:34.000And so those three Gospels, they have within them something that I've always struggled with understanding the logic, which is to be cleansed.
01:09:49.000The book of John has less of a focus on that or the redemption through the crucifixion And more saying the crucifixion itself was the ultimate because it was the like collision between light and darkness where light instead of getting aggro,
01:10:10.000fighting back, just like prayed for the people killing it and died.
01:10:17.000And like, dude, you're not gonna sleep at night if you're crucifying somebody who's praying for you, who's like looking at you and loves you, not in a fake bullshit spiritual way, but loves you and knows you, has known you forever and loves you and truly forgives you.
01:10:35.000Oh, dude, that fucks the whole game up.
01:10:47.000So, you know, regardless, the book of Revelations and all of that stuff, I think it clearly emanates from an expanded consciousness, if nothing else.
01:10:58.000Do you think there really was a Jesus?
01:11:01.000Well, I think, you know, I read that controversial book by Reza Aslan about Jesus.
01:11:21.000I know some people don't like it, but I enjoyed it.
01:11:23.000But it says, like, apparently there are references to a Jesus, but never described as Messiah, but as a magician who was going around healing people and stuff.
01:11:37.000So there is some reference to the being, but I get so bored with the attempt to find the historic Jesus, because I think it really misses the point altogether.
01:11:51.000I think you get so caught up in trying to find the grail or whatever, that you lose track of regardless of the Truth of this being walking the earth, does it change the substance of the parables and their referencing of some realm,
01:12:12.000a transcendent realm, a possibility outside the suffering of the mundane world, outside of sucking emperor dicks so you can get a little bit of power.
01:12:23.000Actually, there's something in any person's life.
01:12:32.000So, to me, I don't care if just a lot of smart people who are trying to convey an ancient cosmology created like a character to embody that.
01:12:46.000Because I don't think that was, to me, that's not the point.
01:12:48.000I know for a lot of Christians it is, and I don't mean to offend y'all.
01:12:50.000It's just, you know, I'm sure any Christian out there, if you're not like wrestling with the Bible anyway...
01:14:53.000Whoever wrote that, I think that's what they were saying.
01:14:58.000You're kind of in a weird part of the multiverse where it's easy to forget there's a lot more going on than what you think is going on there.
01:16:35.000I mean, then like when you get into like the Torah, Hebrew, when you get into like a lot of the stuff Jesus was referencing, and you realize like not only is it like powerful writing with like incredible parables in it about like ways society collapses or families collapse or life collapses,
01:17:20.000And then you see there's an intentionality to that patterning.
01:17:24.000And so then you realize like, oh, so like on top of telling these powerful stories, they figured out a way to encode within the powerful stories more information that only people are going to find if they dig deeper that's designed to be there for you if you want it.
01:17:55.000Also uncovered was a 6,000 year old skeleton of a partially mummified child and a 10,500 year old basket, which Israeli authorities said could be the oldest in the world.
01:18:06.000A CT scan revealed the child's age was between 6 and 12, with the skin, tendons, and even hair partially preserved.
01:18:28.000Can we read that among the recovered texts, which are still all in Greek, is Nahum 156, which says, the mountains quake because of him and the hills melt.
01:18:37.000The earth heaves before him, the world and all that dwell therein.
01:18:55.000It says, the authority said these words differ slightly from other Bible versions, shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form.
01:19:08.000The Dead Sea Scrolls have a lot of really weird stuff in them.
01:19:22.000I'm sure you would have to be a scholar to understand even what the fuck they're saying.
01:19:27.000He was essentially saying that you can trace back the word Christ to an ancient Sumerian word, which means a mushroom covered in God's semen.
01:19:36.000And he thinks that when God orgasmed on the earth, things would blossom from it.
01:19:42.000This is like what the way ancient people used to think of when it rained.
01:19:46.000They used to literally think God was coming, and then when those mushrooms would just appear out of the grass, which, you know, mushrooms grow really quickly.
01:19:55.000So when people would wake up in the morning and see these mushrooms after the rain, and they would eat them and trip their fucking balls off.
01:21:18.000Yeah, just one hack that makes you live longer.
01:21:21.000But yeah, man, I think if you explore the psychedelic universe as an existent place that has its own consciousness, its own mind, and is interested in spreading itself into little bubbles of,
01:21:39.000I don't know, parts of the universe that have forgotten about it.
01:23:18.000But generally, if you see someone wearing a costume and it's not Halloween, you know, or you're not at like a convention, you better watch the fuck out, especially if the person wearing a costume is telling you that they Are such an authority on this subject or that,
01:23:37.000that you can't even fucking question it.
01:23:40.000That your questioning itself is offensive.
01:23:43.000Now you gotta watch out because if that's happening, you could be in a cult.
01:23:46.000Like if someone's telling that to you, if they're like, we don't even ask that question.
01:23:51.000Yeah, that's you better watch the fuck out because that once people start doing that man Yeah, you know they shut down then now they're shutting down the truth or the joy That comes from Turning on the light in the darkness,
01:24:07.000you know like the joy of when someone comes to you confused Truly confused and you give them like real data that can change their lives You know what I mean?
01:25:11.000Once you have gone to university for a certain amount of time, gotten deeply into debt to the banks, You were given a credential or a license to practice whatever the particular thing is that you went to school for.
01:25:26.000But you essentially have given the banks all this fucking money to get a magic star on your certificate where people know, okay, this person is the real deal.
01:25:42.000When I go to a doctor, I want to see some fucking certificates on the wall.
01:25:46.000But I have never in my life going to a doctor, like, remembered the certificates and gone home and, like, did he really go to that university?
01:26:50.000There's always been these weird people that pretend to be somebody.
01:26:53.000It's such a strange thing because it's just like an exercise in how well you can just keep pretending.
01:27:01.000You know, because you've got to pretend for a long time and you've got to tell people stories about where you went to school and what hospitals you've worked at.
01:28:46.000It's like, we, you know, again, you just have to, like, it's, you realize, like, if all you have to do is put on a costume, and you know Maybe not everybody, but enough people are going to think that you are important or more advanced than them.
01:29:06.000All you have to do is put on a costume?
01:30:30.000I mean, you could certainly, like, sneak in and probably find a costume and, like, get into it and then just walk around Disney World and nobody would know.
01:30:37.000Florida man pretended to be Disney World staffer to steal a famous character police site.
01:32:21.000An unidentified nurse told investigators, I don't know if he was specifically asking for access to the computer, but he was just mentioning that he doesn't have access, and he was asking how you get access.
01:32:32.000Nurses found Bailey's social media account and realized he was not who he said he was.
01:32:37.000They reported it right away, and the teenager was escorted out.
01:32:40.000His badge was disabled, and the police got involved.
01:32:43.000It took him a month to figure that out though.
01:32:57.000Why is he spending so much time in the newborn area?
01:33:01.000Just wandered around with his badge dressed up like a nurse.
01:33:04.000Did you ever see that there was like some YouTube video like people realize if you carry a ladder into a movie theater you don't have to buy tickets.
01:33:12.000Like if you walk into a movie theater holding a ladder people just assume you work there and you just like these kids were just filming themselves going into places with a ladder.
01:33:20.000It's like the ultimate key to get you in to anywhere.
01:34:23.000I mean, fortunately for us, there's like lots of people who aren't, you know, false prophets.
01:34:27.000That was the word for it, false prophet.
01:34:29.000Like, I think that's in the book of Revelations, the rise of these false prophets who like wear the costume, but they're the opposite of the thing.
01:34:39.000And most people I've met, like from the Ram Dass retreats and stuff, certainly my meditation teacher, David Nickturn, If you've just met him, talking to him, you would never know, right away, that he had trained with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,
01:35:25.000You know what the closest thing I can point to, it sounds so weird, like the times I've been hanging out with you, every once in a while we'll be hanging out with a UFC fighter or Like some weird seal or something, you know, like some dude who like is like,
01:35:42.000you know, they come to the UFC, whatever.
01:35:44.000So you're hanging out with them and then you realize like this guy is like for someone who like could murder me right now is the nicest guy I ever met in my life.
01:36:00.000They have this, like, they're tuned in in this way.
01:36:03.000Now, I don't mean to compare spiritual teachers to UFC fighters, but I think what they have in common potentially is discipline.
01:36:09.000Like, real rigorous, hardcore, focused discipline upon some system.
01:36:15.000And with those teachers, man, there's this, like, glowy...
01:36:20.000Non-bullshitty, very authentic quality to them.
01:36:25.000Inevitably, you present to them something that's bothering you or whatever, and they have this way of just instantly shifting the energy around it so that you feel like it's manageable.
01:36:36.000You realize, fuck man, I had framed this in this horrific way, and they just have this ability to shift that.
01:36:47.000Always look on the bright side, kiddo!
01:36:49.000But a real compassionate way of like, I feel like you do it to people sometimes, like you see people.
01:36:55.000And then sometimes people are really good at seeing people, but they're not good at forgiving what they see, or they're not good at seeing like there's a possibility in anybody to be Happier.
01:37:09.000Yeah, right and seeing that possibility They just see the shit that's making them unhappy, you know and focus on that and and and and those people are dicks But like some people can see through that to like where you you could be and And they believe you could get there.
01:37:26.000And they do it effortlessly because they've trained themselves in being compassionate.
01:37:32.000That's fucking incredible to be around that energy, man.
01:38:13.000The Chokim Chop Rinpoche would say, one way you can know is whatever the particular tradition is that's being articulated or whatever the thing is, it should feel like fresh baked bread right out of the oven.
01:38:27.000So the energy behind it is like does not feel stale, musty.
01:38:33.000When you're around it, it's like even though the traditions they might be connected to are old as fuck, you realize like, oh shit, it's The tradition itself is, like, irrelevant.
01:38:46.000Like, what the tradition was pointing to is outside of time.
01:39:06.000Not only is this, like, right here, right now, in this moment, but, uh, I've been blind to it like I couldn't even see it until like now I'm seeing it and then That the idea behind that is not for you to go to them So you can keep seeing it the idea is like then hopefully that sets you on fire So you your life becomes something like within your life is an attempt to like kind of Remember that or see it or like,
01:39:33.000you know recognize it, but this is why we need friends Because you will forget it or I'll forget it.
01:39:39.000Yeah, and we need people to like Not like, hey, you sinner or whatever, but like maybe just in the way they are.
01:40:58.000It's not necessarily crazy or like it sounds maybe I'm making it overly spiritual but you know I meet people sometimes and it's like I've known you forever and it's like we're picking up a conversation seemingly that we've been having For like many lifetimes.
01:41:41.000It's not just one person just spitting out and you just taking all the details of their life's journey like, okay, and then what did you do?
01:44:44.000So now you're angry and right now what like now?
01:44:48.000I'm now you're just angry and right no connection has been made Nothing is like changed other than you are right and you're angry and that's man.
01:44:57.000That's sad when anytime like you win that kind of argument it's just like you Nothing happened.
01:45:05.000The only thing that's gonna save us is Neuralink.
01:45:07.000And once we get those things synced up, and then there's gonna be no misunderstandings, no miscommunications, and everyone's gonna be held accountable...
01:45:14.000There's gonna be an awkward couple weeks!
01:45:18.000When Neuralink comes out, there's gonna be two weeks of real awkward moments.
01:45:23.000And you'll find out how people really feel.
01:45:25.000Like, all these dudes who, like, have these...
01:45:30.000Like, if you're, like, an 80-year-old guy and you're married to some 30-year-old Instagram model...
01:45:36.000Somehow you've tricked yourself into thinking...
01:45:39.000You might know what she really thinks about you.
01:46:27.000If you're some lady who's a professional temptress and you can cling to some 82-year-old billionaire, that is a very good financial bargain.
01:46:42.000If you could somehow or another get in that will, how does that work?
01:48:04.000So you, to fully pull off the heist, so to speak, you believe in what you're doing.
01:48:12.000And because it's a human being, and because really, at some level, Bernie is still 30-year-old Bernie underneath all whatever's collapsing around him.
01:48:58.000I would love to hear an honest, it must exist, an honest story about a person who did that.
01:49:07.000Because I could imagine like the beginning phase, you have this idea in your mind.
01:49:12.000Well, really the fucking awful idea you have in your mind probably is that money is going to heal all of the emotional trauma that led me to a place where I would manipulate old people for their money.
01:50:00.000But what's interesting is if a woman does marry an 80-year-old billionaire and then he dies and she gets all that money, she carries that for life.
01:51:04.000And when you get so scared that you're so consumed by your own fear that you...
01:51:13.000Allow it to control you to the point that you like become a manipulator or a con artist or grifter or whatever and like behind it is just fucking fear.
01:51:27.000It's like you know like you people get mad at the TSA. It's like, you can't really do much worse to the TSA than what they're already doing.
01:51:38.000Do you know how bad it sucks, I imagine, to rub down people all day long?
01:52:04.000So it's like with this archetype of person, man, I think like the suffering they're experiencing, the confusion, the lack of security, the uncertainty, the realization at some level of their like inauthenticity.
01:53:02.000It's weird because it's just a regular job.
01:53:04.000There's nothing wrong with having a regular job.
01:53:07.000But if you had escaped that world, and you had made a lot of money, and then all of a sudden you had to go back to it and have a regular job, people feel like they openly could mock you.
01:55:52.000My wife tells me about it sometimes, but it's basically a mode of putting up YouTube content.
01:55:58.000So you're like parenting YouTube channel.
01:56:00.000You're filming your kids every day, all day long, filming them sleeping.
01:56:07.000For instance, this has happened a couple times on YouTube.
01:56:10.000Child abuse charges against YouTube channel mom underscore the lack of oversight for kids.
01:56:15.000Law insurers, professional child performers are safe, educated, and not working too many hours, but they don't extend to stars of popular YouTube channels.
01:57:11.000The child stars of YouTube hit Fantastic Adventures, allegedly abused by adopted mother.
01:57:17.000The children told police their adopted mother starved, beat, and pepper sprayed them when they failed to follow directions for videos, officials said.
01:58:10.000And like trying to rationalize the way they were doing it because it was making it harder for the pedophiles to watch kid videos to watch them.
01:58:20.000But that's the other really fucked up aspect of it is that when you have a huge audience and you're showing your kids in bathing suits, there is a Definite percentage of the audience that are not interested in watching your kids Saturday barbecue or whatever the fuck you're doing Remember don't you remember when like they figured out a way in the YouTube comments they would leave time codes for when the camera was like Instagram
01:58:50.000algorithms connect vast network of pedophiles seeking child pornography according to researchers whoa Not to mention they're deepfaking their kids, for sure.
01:59:04.000You know, like they're taking the kids and they're deepfaking them and God knows what.
01:59:08.000Can you scroll back up to the top, Jamie?
01:59:12.000So, Parent Company Betta says it established a task force to combat the problems.
01:59:19.000And it says Instagram's recommendation algorithms have enabled a vast network of pedophiles seeking illegal underage sexual content and activity according to a Wall Street Journal expose.
01:59:30.000In a 2,800-word article published Wednesday, the journal said it conducted an investigation into child pornography on meta-owned Instagram in collaboration with researchers at Stanford and the University of Massachusetts Amherst.
02:00:18.000In other words, so when you're filming your kid and you have a very popular YouTube account featuring your child, you know that when you upload that thing, people are watching your kid and jerking off.
02:00:36.000These people maybe know where your kids go to school, where they live.
02:00:47.000Yeah, it's like one of the weird things as we approach the singularity.
02:00:50.000It's like one of the weird cultural issues that haven't been dealt with yet.
02:00:55.000Well, I've been very lucky to talk to a lot of people that were famous when they're young, you know from doing this podcast.
02:01:03.000Yeah, and I've never met one of them that came out better because of it.
02:01:10.000Every one of them is just like struggling to try to figure out why did I get exposed to all these strangers as a child?
02:01:20.000Why was I exposed to all that attention as a child when I'm supposed to be developing, interacting with people, trying to figure out how to move my body, how to talk, how to interact?
02:01:31.000Like, why am I doing this publicly at six?
02:01:34.000I mean, your childhood was converted into money.
02:04:15.000It is so crazy we could do this now that we can convert our lives into money.
02:04:19.000It's so crazy you could like just film yourself doing shit and then like maybe make so much money off of like just stuff that you know normal stuff.
02:04:30.000So was this guy trying to say that he the plane crash happened with him in it?
02:04:58.000Watching the video and making commentary on why it's suspicious because apparently you look at the plane and there's stuff that should be in a plane that's not in a plane.
02:05:36.000More than two weeks after the crash, he had a friend flew a helicopter to the crash site and airlifted the wreckage to Rancho Sisquak in Santa Barbara County where it was loaded onto a trailer attached to Jacob's pickup truck.
02:05:51.000Yeah, he unloaded it in a hangar, drove the wreckage to an airport.
02:05:55.000He then cut up and destroyed the airplane wreckage and, over the course of a few days, deposited the attached parts of the wrecked airplane into trash bins in the airport and elsewhere.
02:07:21.000It flies into someone's house and then the guy's a mass murderer.
02:07:24.000When they were making YouTube in the early days, I don't think they ever thought that like there would be plane crashes because of their technology.
02:07:32.000I don't think they ever thought like this thing is going to like influence society and just destroy lives.
02:07:41.000People are gonna ruin their lives for views.
02:07:46.000Imagine that guy had to plot out where the plane was going to crash, too.
02:07:50.000Because he had to be jumping high enough where you can jump.
02:07:54.000I don't know what that threshold is, but you've got to be pretty high up there where you can jump and then film yourself before you even pull the parachute, right?
02:11:01.000It's interesting because whenever these emerging technologies exist, like social media sites, where you can do things to get attention, you're going to see certain people that They grab hold of it in a very weird way.
02:11:20.000Certain sociopathic, psychopathic members of our society who go, I know how to do it.
02:11:29.000I am going to pretend to assault people at the mall.
02:11:32.000Or I'm going, you know, there's a lot of those.
02:12:40.000Police said the initial investigation determined the victim and an 18-year-old were in the backyard with friends when the 18-year-old pulled out a gun as a prank and had accidentally discharged, striking the boy in the chest.
02:14:19.000It's like essentially an AI whisperer.
02:14:21.000It's someone who knows how to tell an AI... Or specific instructions that work for some goal.
02:14:28.000It's so generally like that's like art maybe like because you know talking to mid-journey which is this insane text-to-art AI like there's a lot like when you like the the amount of weird specificity involved.
02:14:45.000Compared to $375,000 a year and you don't always require a background in tech.
02:15:17.000It's like society is transforming culturally quicker and quicker and technologically quicker and quicker.
02:15:22.000It's like it's going to make these giant changes that are gonna happen at such a rapid rate that it's gonna be hard to remember when they didn't exist before.
02:16:00.000It already, like, solved some big problem in medicine.
02:16:03.000It's like, it's already, like, figuring shit out that's gonna have direct applications to a human lifespan, curing diseases, and the amount of time it might take to get to that point with human brains Is way,
02:16:22.000Because in the process of giving up the way you source information to artificial intelligence, then just starts to take control over other aspects of your life.
02:17:02.000Ultimately because like what's on your mind right now?
02:17:04.000Yeah, just what's on your what's what's going what's on your mind the second man?
02:17:08.000It's just like fuck I just you know The fact that like this is a conversation in like the UFO universe that's happening which is watching all these like hardcore I'm still wearing a stethoscope.
02:17:21.000I just realized that my thing fell off the like hardcore skeptics hardcore skeptics are now It's just interesting to watch.
02:17:31.000And again, until I see a UFO, I'm going to be skeptical.
02:17:35.000But it's interesting to watch the gradual shift that's happening in people who are like big-time debunkers.
02:17:42.000There is not like, okay, I think they're real, and I don't blame them for saying I don't think they're real, because it's like, really, they're still going off of just people saying it's real.
02:17:52.000But the fact that the people saying it, like Marco Rubio coming out now, did you see that shit?
02:18:10.000Grush is saying that he has access to information, and he was aware of information, he was aware of things that the public wasn't aware of, and so he wants to be a whistleblower, because the public deserves to know about these things.
02:19:52.000It's going to ruin your career potentially as a politician.
02:19:56.000So I don't see much of a benefit in them coming out and saying that stuff.
02:20:00.000That's the part where it's like, I can't trace how Marco Rubio, the next time he runs, he's going to be like, I'm the guy who got tricked into thinking there was UFOs.
02:20:23.000Whether it's Commander David Fravor, the New York Times article, Jeremy Corbell, all these different videos that get released.
02:20:31.000There's enough credible people talking about it that they have to kind of address it.
02:20:36.000And if someone like a senator, like Marco Rubio, has a conversation with someone when they're saying, yeah, we have crashed UFOs and we have alien bodies and we're hiding it from the people.
02:20:53.000If you are a politician and you realize we've all been briefed on this shit and it is coming out and you other people don't have the guts to come out and say it, you realize to be the first politician who came out and told the truth.
02:21:10.000There's a lot of benefit and like the courage To come out and like support whistleblowers because, dude, I read an analysis of it that's so creepy because it points out that US taxpayer money is being allocated to,
02:21:29.000if it's true I'm saying, our taxpayer money is getting allocated to Some organizations that are outside the control of the U.S. government, this is—and has been doing it for 50,
02:22:03.000And if you're benefiting from the technology, if you're selling the technology to private contractors and making money off of it, that's supposed to be for us.
02:23:20.000I heard that Jeremy was on my podcast was talking about how...
02:23:29.000I'm sorry, Jeremy, if I'm misquoting you, this is from me, obviously, so forgive me if there's an error in the way I'm saying it, but it's compartmentalized.
02:23:40.000So some of the reverse engineering people theoretically don't even know that they're looking at wreckage.
02:23:47.000That's what Bob Lazar said on my podcast.
02:23:49.000He said part of the problem is science can't exist in a vacuum.
02:24:01.000You had an area where you're allowed to go and look at the vehicle and you were with your other teammate and everybody reported on everything that was said and done.
02:24:13.000And it was too limited for them to ever really figure out in his belief at that time.
02:24:19.000So we're talking about 1989. If what he's saying is true, what he was saying was that they were bringing him to this area and he couldn't tell his wife, he couldn't tell anybody where he was going, and they were flying him to area S4 where they had this UFO. They didn't have just one.
02:26:02.000What kind of valuable research do you get from dosing up some plumber looking to get his dick sucked, you know, and give the guy a glass of water.
02:27:07.000But basically the idea, like the gate program, apparently...
02:27:12.000And I looked it up, and there does seem to be some connection, was sort of funded by the feds, who, like, it was definitely somehow involved with the government, basically not where it goes into conspiracy land.
02:27:26.000The idea is they wanted to find people, kids, early on who demonstrated certain traits that then they could hire to work in intelligence.
02:27:38.000It's a grooming program for intelligence, basically.
02:32:02.000Sometimes scientists think Earth's oceans formed when icy comets hit the planet, but new research suggests a different origin for the oceans.
02:32:11.000They simply seeped out of the center of the Earth.
02:32:15.000The finding published in Science suggests that a reservoir of water hidden in the Earth's mantle is more than 400 miles below the surface.
02:32:23.000Try to refrain from imagining the expanses of underground seas.
02:32:27.000All this water, three times the volume of water on the surface is trapped inside the rocks.
02:33:47.000And if there were voids within the earth, and there was like some kind of heat source, whatever it is, and it gets hotter down there, and maybe some water didn't just make it into the...
02:33:59.000So if there were water down there, a heat source, and also if there was like some flow of water seeping in from, you know, the surface, theoretically...
02:34:09.000Theoretically, some life form could evolve down there just like we did.
02:35:43.000Michael Knowles, I didn't watch the video, but it was one of those things where the headline of the YouTube video, it's like, on the Michael Knowles show, it's something about aliens are, confirms aliens are demonic.
02:35:59.000Yeah, but he was talking to somebody that, like, I think he was talking to Lou Elizondo, right, who is a part of the program, the ATIP program, one of those UFO research programs, but there was this video about it.
02:36:17.000Do I need to make a feature-length documentary called What is a Demon to teach Matt Walsh blog that extraterrestrial aliens aren't real?
02:37:49.000And if I was going to get people captivated, I would start talking about all these things that we have, all these fucking amazing crafts that we've recovered, but not show you jack shit.
02:38:02.000I have a lot of people talking about it, and maybe this is just a preliminary step to showing you the stuff.
02:38:08.000Maybe I'm wrong, and these are like real patriots that think the American public needs to know.
02:38:13.000People have lived and died and not have this information, and it's your duty as a patriot, it's your duty as a human being, as a citizen of Earth, to let everyone know that we are being visited.
02:38:24.000Also, you might be covering up for the military-industrial complex that's figured out a way to make hypersonic drones that look and behave like something that was created on another planet.
02:38:35.000Because they funded these researchers under some guise of a hedge phone company and flown in all these physicists and give them a lot of money to shut the fuck up and top secret clearance, which you can't violate or you get put in jail.
02:38:48.000And next thing you know, you're developing some sort of magnetic propulsion system that can rocket things through the sky silently, instantaneously.
02:40:49.000I was trying to find where I saw it, but recently, in the last few days, I saw someone, I think they were in the government, saying a similar version to this, and that there is a date that they have been told, and that if they tell everyone the date, it will freak people out, so there's a fight about talking about this date.
02:42:03.000Who do you want to hear talk about this?
02:42:05.000You want to hear, like, a rational, educated scientist that's warning you about the very specific details of what human beings and our pollution is doing to the world?
02:42:18.000Like, here's science and graphs and data.
02:42:21.000Instead, you're sending a kid that, like, got famous for saying, how dare you?
02:44:04.000Mercury poisoning and and this is Newtonian physics and it's like this This is new look at Tesla He's like fucking like on a date thinking about Faust seeing a vision of like alternating current engine,
02:44:20.000These are the people who warped society permanently.
02:44:23.000There was nothing tame domesticated or normal about them Like imagine if you if like I invite you over I'm like Joe come into my I want to show you something I'm working on It's, you know, the Temple of Solomon from the Bible.
02:45:01.000This thing has emerged with the domesticated normal scientist or that science is somehow filled with just very normal, completely professional people when the history of it seems to be littered With maniacs.
02:50:13.000Eddie Cohen is like a real modern-day Elite pool cue maker and he made a version like a color of money version, but that's the that's the cue that Joss made and you could buy it It's not like I mean, it's a good playing cue.
02:50:26.000It's it plays good, but it's not a pal Bushka pal Bushka was a Handmade cue by this guy who was a master.
02:51:51.000That's an old Balabushka, so what that is is a Titleist.
02:51:55.000And what a Titleist is is a house cue.
02:51:57.000So you buy a house cue, and a lot of those really old house cues from like the 50s, They converted them into pool cues, like two-piece cues that you could bring with you.
02:52:08.000That was a very popular cue because it's a full splice, meaning the contact, wood-to-wood contact of the two joints is like, it's the old method that they used to use.
02:52:56.000And most of the players, in fact, now are playing with carbon fiber anyway.
02:53:00.000What is the, like, this is probably a dumb question because I don't know enough about pool, but what, like, if two equally matched players are playing, and one of them has one of those, and another one has just, like, a basic pool cue, how much of an advantage would the person with a really nice pool cue?
02:53:39.000But once your arm and your stroking arm becomes accustomed to the balance, Then it can accurately determine the amount of force that it has to apply to the ball in order to get the proper rotations of the ball for it to align where you need to land your next shot.
02:54:24.000Like, you could just see how, like, you would just—there was a—oh, I wish I could—it's so sad I can't remember the name of this club because their green room is incredible.
02:55:00.000Because I have so many things going on simultaneously that would require my attention.
02:55:04.000That if I have an activity, whether it's archery, martial arts, or pool, where you cannot think of anything other than that activity while you're engaging in it, it's very beneficial.
02:55:36.000Bryan Simpson was explaining Diablo, and he started showing the new Diablo on the screen, and he's explaining how it all goes down, and I was just seeing my fucking time getting sucked away into this goddamn game.
02:55:51.000This is also, like, if you're into games right now, this is like the apocalypse, because, like, the new Zelda came out, and then Blizzard puts out the new fucking Diablo.