The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2022 - Jeremy Gerber, Phil Gerber, & Josh Henning

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00:00:12.000 Okay, and we're up.

00:00:14.000 First of all, thanks for coming here.

00:00:17.000 Thanks for everything.

00:00:18.000 Pleasure, man.

00:00:18.000 We're very excited.

00:00:20.000 Just introduce yourself.

00:00:21.000 Start with you, Josh.

00:00:22.000 I'm Josh Henning from the Roadshow Shop.

00:00:24.000 Phil Gerber.

00:00:25.000 Jeremy Gerber. 0.99

00:00:26.000 And you guys make fucking awesome cars. 0.98

00:00:28.000 Well, thank you. 0.98

00:00:29.000 For a living.

00:00:30.000 I appreciate it.

00:00:31.000 What a great job. 0.99

00:00:32.000 I mean, what a fucking great job. 0.99

00:00:34.000 Dude, yeah it is. 0.98

00:00:34.000 You guys get to work on some of the fucking coolest cars that have ever been made. 0.98

00:00:39.000 You guys have an incredible gig. 0.94

00:00:40.000 Living the dream, man.

00:00:42.000 That's it.

00:00:42.000 That's what it's all about.

00:00:43.000 So I drove that 1970 Barracuda and I got here. 0.99

00:00:46.000 I said, I don't want to say shit until we get on the air. 0.99

00:00:48.000 Dude, I'm sweating. 0.99

00:00:49.000 I've been sweating thinking about it.

00:00:51.000 That thing is a masterpiece.

00:00:53.000 It's my favorite.

00:00:54.000 That's my favorite car now.

00:00:55.000 That just went number one.

00:00:57.000 It beat all of them.

00:00:58.000 Hell yeah, dude.

00:00:59.000 You know, like Edges.

00:01:00.000 You know, the Camaro's amazing. 0.99

00:01:02.000 My Nova that I got from Steve Stroop is fucking incredible. 0.99

00:01:05.000 But this thing is fucking... 0.98

00:01:06.000 It's also, it's like I have so much history with this car. 0.99

00:01:09.000 And I bought this car 20 years ago.

00:01:12.000 And to buy it, Reggie Bush bought it, and then he got rid of it after a while.

00:01:16.000 He dumped a bunch of money into it too, he was telling me.

00:01:18.000 And then when my friend Yoel told me he got it back, he called me and he said, I have your Barracuda.

00:01:27.000 I'm like, no!

00:01:28.000 And this is like, you know, I was already thinking that I wanted to get another one.

00:01:33.000 I wanted to get them.

00:01:35.000 I only like hot rods that are manuals.

00:01:37.000 That's all I like.

00:01:38.000 I do not like automatic hot rods.

00:01:40.000 It just feels like something's wrong.

00:01:41.000 When you're driving a classic muscle car, it's like, why am I not shifting?

00:01:47.000 You know?

00:01:48.000 And just what you guys did to that thing is just...

00:01:51.000 You guys are artists.

00:01:52.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:01:53.000 It's really amazing.

00:01:54.000 Dude, we were stoked.

00:01:55.000 Stoked to hear when you found that car.

00:01:56.000 Because you could have built anything, you know?

00:01:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:58.000 But that damn car was so rad. 1.00

00:02:01.000 And to start with it... 1.00

00:02:02.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:02:03.000 Revamped that sucker and put our touch on it. 0.94

00:02:06.000 Man, I had a blast doing it, dude. 0.93

00:02:07.000 And I'm glad that you're digging it.

00:02:08.000 I love it.

00:02:09.000 I love it. 0.94

00:02:10.000 Everything on that, all the styling and stuff aside, the focus was making that fucker work really good so that you got something fun to drive. 0.93

00:02:19.000 It drives so different than anything else. 0.69

00:02:21.000 It's that high-revving, naturally aspirated Mercury engine, which is very different.

00:02:28.000 It's a wild motor, man.

00:02:30.000 The Mopar dude's not a big fan of it, right? 1.00

00:02:33.000 Because it's a Chevy base, but it's a fucking motor. 1.00

00:02:37.000 It's an internal combustion engine. 1.00

00:02:39.000 It looks like a heavy under the hood. 1.00

00:02:40.000 People have to get over that shit. 0.99

00:02:43.000 There's a bunch of people that are taking V8s, like LS engines, and putting them in the back of Porsches. 1.00

00:02:48.000 Yeah.

00:02:49.000 And people are like, man, I don't know.

00:02:52.000 They're doing like those 964s, air-cooled engines.

00:02:54.000 But dude, do you know how fun that would be?

00:02:57.000 It's probably lighter than the Porsche engine.

00:03:00.000 It's got way more torque.

00:03:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:02.000 Way more horsepower.

00:03:03.000 Totally different sound.

00:03:05.000 I mean, it's upgrades.

00:03:07.000 It doesn't have to fit.

00:03:07.000 It's not like you've got to stick with whatever came in a factory to make it better.

00:03:13.000 It's hot riding. 1.00

00:03:14.000 They've got to let that shit go. 1.00

00:03:15.000 They've got to let that shit go. 1.00

00:03:16.000 The people who are the worst about it is Ferrari people. 1.00

00:03:19.000 Ferrari will sue you.

00:03:21.000 I know, man.

00:03:22.000 I've heard that.

00:03:23.000 That is so crazy. 0.99

00:03:25.000 If you buy a Ferrari and you paint it weird colors, they'll fucking sue you. 0.99

00:03:29.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:03:29.000 Yeah, you see there's a couple things floating around. 0.94

00:03:31.000 You get that dude that just, man, he swapped like a Honda motor, turbo Honda motor into an old 308. Every comment's like, when's the cease and desist letter coming?

00:03:41.000 Yeah, I wonder if they can do that with classic ones.

00:03:43.000 Because I know that there's a bunch of people that have hot-rodded some old GTOs.

00:03:47.000 And they really are incredible.

00:03:49.000 They're cool, dude.

00:03:50.000 I talk about it all the time.

00:03:51.000 I'm itching to, like, resto mod at Testarossa.

00:03:54.000 Ooh.

00:03:55.000 It's going to happen one of these days.

00:03:57.000 I don't know why, but I think I see those cars.

00:04:00.000 Those cars never did it for me.

00:04:01.000 Really? 0.98

00:04:02.000 It looks like junk. 0.99

00:04:03.000 Oh, man. 0.62

00:04:03.000 That side thing with the, like, vents. 0.62

00:04:06.000 Like, get the fuck out of here. 0.59

00:04:07.000 Dude, it's the generation. 0.99

00:04:08.000 It's the generational gap, you know?

00:04:10.000 No, that was Miami Vice.

00:04:12.000 I was a kid.

00:04:12.000 I remember Miami Vice.

00:04:14.000 Everybody wanted a Testarossa.

00:04:15.000 I want to do that Lambo LP 2000 or whatever, the Lambo truck, the vintage one.

00:04:21.000 Oh, the one Mike Tyson had.

00:04:22.000 Mike Tyson had one of those back in the day.

00:04:24.000 Do those with mid-travel. 0.99

00:04:26.000 You only want to do that because you picture that fucking Doberman sitting in the front seat of that. 0.98

00:04:30.000 That's the perfect car for like Doberman Rottweiler. 0.99

00:04:33.000 I've got a little, yeah.

00:04:34.000 That's your style for sure.

00:04:35.000 Yeah, that's a guy with warrants.

00:04:37.000 Guy's got a car like that. 0.98

00:04:38.000 That guy's done some shady shit. 0.92

00:04:40.000 You gotta get some of those in your collection. 0.98

00:04:42.000 A Doberman in a Lambo truck.

00:04:44.000 Like, what are you up to?

00:04:46.000 Pretty sure you know how to get ketamine.

00:04:50.000 Dude, did you rip that cootie? 0.99

00:04:52.000 You drove it here, right?

00:04:53.000 Oh yeah, I drove it here.

00:04:53.000 So you got a few miles on it?

00:04:54.000 Yeah, oh my god.

00:04:56.000 Dude, it's so different.

00:04:57.000 That engine, it's just the high revving engine.

00:05:00.000 I mean, what's the red line on that thing?

00:05:02.000 You could shift it to like 8300, 8400. That's so crazy for a V8. It's so crazy and it sounds so different.

00:05:10.000 It sounds like a combination of the Voodoo engine from the Shelby GT350 and an exotic car.

00:05:21.000 It's real weird.

00:05:22.000 It's got a sweet sound. 0.99

00:05:23.000 The Voodoo engines and all those Coyotes are cool, but me even being a car guy, if I'm on the highway and I'm just cruising with my family and some asshole kid flies by you in one of those with an exhaust system on it, I'm like, what the fuck is... 1.00

00:05:35.000 Jesus, man. 1.00

00:05:36.000 What a little respect.

00:05:37.000 I don't think you need an exhaust system on one of those.

00:05:40.000 They sound bad.

00:05:40.000 They sound good when they're straight from the factory.

00:05:42.000 I like that sound.

00:05:44.000 But dudes go crazy with their exhausts. 0.99

00:05:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:46.000 Isn't that annoying to you?

00:05:48.000 Yeah, it's like a maturity thing, I think, you know?

00:05:51.000 You want the exhaust tone.

00:05:53.000 Like that car, too, we put that little bypass on it.

00:05:55.000 You can open it up and it's maybe like 20-30% louder.

00:05:59.000 But it's not obnoxious.

00:06:01.000 It doesn't need to be.

00:06:02.000 That sounds perfect.

00:06:03.000 I didn't know if there was like an HOA or something, you know, so I was trying to make sure you had that option.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, try to be respectful.

00:06:10.000 Try to be respectful.

00:06:11.000 It's weird driving that though and then getting back in another LS V8 powered car and like you're shifting so much earlier and then you jump in that trying to figure like mentally stay in it another 3,000 RPMs and...

00:06:22.000 Yeah.

00:06:22.000 It comes alive at five grand and just rips.

00:06:25.000 It's just very different.

00:06:26.000 But it's got plenty of low-end torque for it to be fun, like right off the line.

00:06:29.000 But it's just like when you get on the highway, when you get on...

00:06:32.000 First of all, the handling of the thing.

00:06:34.000 I wanted to ask you this.

00:06:35.000 Because you guys remapped how the transmission works and the tunnel, and then you put the rear trans-actual, does that shift the weight more to the back?

00:06:46.000 That car ends up being, like, perfect 50-50.

00:06:49.000 So with a big monster V8 in front of it, the car still, you know, it's a little more exotic because it's balanced.

00:06:56.000 That's what I was thinking when I was driving.

00:06:58.000 I'm like, God, this thing is so balanced.

00:07:00.000 It's so sordid.

00:07:01.000 It's just, like, super predictable.

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:04.000 And it feels like a sports car, doesn't it, compared to...

00:07:06.000 The exact opposite feeling of the old car.

00:07:09.000 The old 70 was that it had that giant Hemi...

00:07:12.000 In the front.

00:07:13.000 And it was like really front-end heavy.

00:07:16.000 Oh yeah.

00:07:16.000 And you could feel it.

00:07:17.000 You could feel it around turns.

00:07:19.000 You could feel it everywhere.

00:07:20.000 It was like, yikes!

00:07:20.000 And it had solid rear axle.

00:07:23.000 It didn't have the widest tires in the world.

00:07:26.000 And it was just like, ugh.

00:07:28.000 Sketch.

00:07:29.000 Big old boat anchor. 0.99

00:07:30.000 That's why everybody that chimes in, they're like, man, shit, I had a big old 426 Hemi with a four barrel on it. 1.00

00:07:35.000 You're like, dude, what the fuck? 1.00

00:07:37.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

00:07:38.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

00:07:39.000 If I gave you that car, you'd shake your pants. 1.00

00:07:42.000 It's the most incredible car of all time. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Shut up. 0.98

00:07:44.000 You drove the Camaro yesterday, you were talking about. 0.99

00:07:47.000 So it's interesting, back-to-back two days, jumping out of the Camaro.

00:07:51.000 The Camaro's way more sketchy.

00:07:53.000 The Camaro is like, if you're taking a right turn, you give it a little juice, you're gonna kick out.

00:07:58.000 It's so powerful at the low end.

00:08:01.000 It's so...

00:08:01.000 It's got that...

00:08:03.000 It just wants to go.

00:08:04.000 You gotta be very careful with the throttle in the Camaro.

00:08:09.000 Yeah, you gotta respect the Camaro a lot more than this one.

00:08:11.000 This one just lets you feel where the balance is.

00:08:15.000 It's just like you know where the limitations are.

00:08:18.000 It's like giving you more information, it seems like.

00:08:21.000 The Camaro is just like a bar brawler. 0.99

00:08:23.000 The Camaro is like some crazy dude who comes into a bar and he's doing coke and just wants to start smashing shit. 0.99

00:08:29.000 That's what it's like. 0.99

00:08:31.000 For one of those cars, for a 69, you don't get a 69 Camaro that handles better.

00:08:37.000 It handles amazing.

00:08:38.000 But it's so rowdy.

00:08:40.000 And it has, what is that, like 850 horsepower?

00:08:43.000 Yeah, 850 horsepower.

00:08:44.000 It's the supercharger, man. 0.99

00:08:45.000 The torque's like fucking on. 0.99

00:08:47.000 It's like a light switch. 0.99

00:08:49.000 It's fun. 1.00

00:08:50.000 But you can wind that fucker out, though. 1.00

00:08:52.000 I mean, it'll shoot pretty straight. 0.99

00:08:54.000 It's a fun car to drive.

00:08:55.000 It's a recipe for disaster.

00:09:00.000 Just enjoy it at 7. Don't get that bitch up to 9 or 10. Don't do it. 1.00

00:09:06.000 Swap a pulley on it. 0.99

00:09:08.000 I had the privilege of flogging that thing, man, and making sure it was sorted, but that fucker is rowdy compared to the Kuda, for sure. 1.00

00:09:15.000 Yeah, it's very different. 0.98

00:09:16.000 It's a very different feeling, but they're both equally enjoyable in different ways.

00:09:19.000 You know, it's just the...

00:09:21.000 I mean, I've sang the praises of those cars so many times, but there's just something about that era of cars that is the greatest achievement in automotive history in terms of what it emotes from people, the kind of passion that people have for those things.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 Sometimes it's too much passion, though.

00:09:40.000 You know, if you like flying under the radar.

00:09:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:42.000 Like, obviously, for you, yeah, it creates a lot of conversation.

00:09:46.000 Yeah.

00:09:47.000 And for me, I'm like, you know, you drive something like that to fill it up with gas, and you're like, dude, everybody's best friend.

00:09:53.000 Everybody's got something to say.

00:09:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:55.000 Those old pickup, 70s pickup trucks, too, same fucking situation. 0.99

00:09:59.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

00:09:59.000 People who love those old pickup trucks, that's like a very specific breed of person. 0.98

00:10:04.000 Yeah.

00:10:05.000 Those C10s. 1.00

00:10:05.000 It is. 1.00

00:10:06.000 You know, it is and it isn't, because it transcends just the C10 dudes, because chicks love those. 1.00

00:10:13.000 Dude, C10s. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Really?

00:10:15.000 Oh, yeah, like square-body Chevys.

00:10:17.000 Really? 0.99

00:10:18.000 Man, if you're a single dude and you're trying to roll some broads, man, get a fucking square-body... 0.99

00:10:25.000 This guy's out there right now taking notes and like, okay. 0.99

00:10:28.000 So you sure?

00:10:29.000 You sure about this? 1.00

00:10:30.000 Solid sales, bitch. 1.00

00:10:31.000 Yeah, so the year range, what do we got? 0.99

00:10:33.000 73 to 79?

00:10:34.000 That's what we're doing.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, those legend series or whatever.

00:10:37.000 Is anybody redoing the OJ Bronco?

00:10:40.000 It's getting there.

00:10:41.000 It seems like it's old enough now that that's a classic, right?

00:10:46.000 It is.

00:10:47.000 It's shifting, man, because the generation is changing and people are doing more of those. 0.83

00:10:51.000 We just did an 87 Grant National, and it's getting into that era.

00:10:56.000 You're going to break into the early 90s.

00:10:58.000 We did a chassis for one, and we had it in our shop. 0.98

00:11:00.000 I wanted to do one, slam that bitch on a chassis, license plate juice. 1.00

00:11:05.000 Of course. 1.00

00:11:06.000 Do you guys know Mark Curry, Hanging with Mr. Cooper?

00:11:09.000 Remember that show?

00:11:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:10.000 Mark Curry's a car nut, too.

00:11:12.000 He's a stand-up comic, and he had this beautiful O.J. Bronco.

00:11:16.000 It was really dope.

00:11:17.000 Pretty sure it was a Bronco. 1.00

00:11:19.000 And a fucking tree fell on it. 0.99

00:11:21.000 He had the Bronco in his show, I remember. 1.00

00:11:22.000 He had the Bronco in his show, too.

00:11:24.000 Did he?

00:11:24.000 His TV show, I think he would drive that.

00:11:26.000 Yeah, so look at this.

00:11:28.000 Oh! 1.00

00:11:28.000 Yeah, a fucking tree fell on its truck and crushed it. 1.00

00:11:33.000 Man, poor guy. 1.00

00:11:33.000 Yeah, I think it totaled it. 1.00

00:11:35.000 Yeah, it looks like it.

00:11:35.000 See if you can get photos of it.

00:11:37.000 Because it's a massive tree that fell on its... 0.99

00:11:40.000 Look at the size of the fucking tree that fell on its Bronco. 1.00

00:11:42.000 Shit. 1.00

00:11:44.000 It was a dope Bronco, though. 0.99

00:11:45.000 He had a, like, completely redone.

00:11:47.000 It was a total sleeper.

00:11:49.000 There's Mark. 1.00

00:11:50.000 Mark's the shit. 1.00

00:11:51.000 Super cool dude. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Really, really funny stand-up, too, if you ever see him live.

00:11:55.000 I've never seen him.

00:11:56.000 He's really funny.

00:11:57.000 Really funny.

00:11:58.000 But, you know, he made, like, a ton of money off of hanging with Mr. Cooper.

00:12:01.000 He's just chilling, having a good time, enjoying himself.

00:12:04.000 But, uh, just luckily he wasn't in that thing.

00:12:07.000 That's how our governor got paralyzed.

00:12:10.000 The tree?

00:12:10.000 Is that what happened?

00:12:11.000 I always wondered what happened.

00:12:12.000 He was jogging.

00:12:14.000 Jogging around a lake.

00:12:15.000 Does a tree fall on you while you're jogging?

00:12:16.000 Dude, what are the odds?

00:12:18.000 What are the odds?

00:12:19.000 They do fall, though.

00:12:21.000 You know, when you're hunting and you're in an area with a lot of deadfall and it's windy, if you hear a crack, that's something you have to be very considerate of.

00:12:32.000 You have to really consider it.

00:12:33.000 Because if you hear a tree falling and it's anywhere near you, Like, you could get got.

00:12:38.000 Like, you have to really pay attention if you're in a place where trees fall.

00:12:41.000 It's super, super, super rare to be there when a tree falls.

00:12:45.000 But when you go through the woods, you see fallen trees all the time.

00:12:48.000 Like, they do happen.

00:12:49.000 And if you are there when that, I mean, you could just zig when you should have zagged.

00:12:54.000 If that happens to me, I hope it takes me out, dude, because I would not want to tell that story.

00:12:58.000 But if I'm limping around, and people are like, dude, what happened? 0.99

00:13:02.000 Fucking tree fell on me. 0.99

00:13:03.000 Came out of nowhere. 1.00

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 Well, Abbott's pulled it off.

00:13:07.000 He's the governor.

00:13:08.000 He's a great guy, too.

00:13:10.000 And, you know, that's what happened to him.

00:13:12.000 It's a crazy story.

00:13:14.000 The guy was, like, super fit, running around a lake.

00:13:17.000 That's nuts.

00:13:17.000 That's wild.

00:13:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Fucking wild. 0.99

00:13:20.000 That's like we always talk, no disrespect to anybody, but getting hit by a train. 0.99

00:13:27.000 I saw that on Instagram last week.

00:13:29.000 That's always blown my mind, because they don't sneak up on you.

00:13:33.000 They do though, because they're moving so fast you miscalculate how much time it takes to get out of the way.

00:13:40.000 You really do.

00:13:40.000 When you see them, you see them coming, they're coming towards you, you don't understand what that means.

00:13:47.000 If you think you can run across a highway because you see the car down there, no you can't.

00:13:52.000 No you can't.

00:13:53.000 That car's going 80 miles an hour. 1.00

00:13:54.000 It's gonna fucking smash into you. 1.00

00:13:56.000 It's just a bad cow. 1.00

00:13:58.000 And it's also like, for whatever reason, sometimes people stop on tracks.

00:14:02.000 It's the craziest thing.

00:14:03.000 Their car stalls, they get stopped on tracks.

00:14:05.000 Or they try to beat the train, and they get clipped.

00:14:09.000 That's what happened to Matt Hughes.

00:14:10.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like, oof. 0.99

00:14:13.000 Train's fucking... 0.99

00:14:15.000 It's amazing. 0.99

00:14:15.000 It's an adrenaline thing, too. 0.99

00:14:17.000 You know, we were out ripping those scooters, those little rental fucking electric scooters, and Sean was a buddy of mine. 0.99

00:14:22.000 He fucking... 0.99

00:14:23.000 Throttles down on this thing. 1.00

00:14:24.000 I'm like, dude, don't do that.

00:14:26.000 Right in front of the train.

00:14:27.000 It looked like something out of a movie.

00:14:29.000 Like if we had fireworks going off in the background.

00:14:31.000 I forgot all about that.

00:14:33.000 I had a concussion.

00:14:34.000 I forgot about it. 1.00

00:14:36.000 And you're trusting some fucking rental scooter. 1.00

00:14:38.000 Right. 1.00

00:14:39.000 Like, what are the odds that that thing's not beat to shit? 0.99

00:14:42.000 Driving around Austin yesterday, those things just, they leave them wherever, huh? 0.99

00:14:46.000 Ever.

00:14:47.000 You have a nap, you just find one, pick it up, start riding.

00:14:49.000 Yeah, they're in the middle of the road. 0.97

00:14:51.000 Like, yesterday we were driving around, they're just fucking everywhere. 0.94

00:14:53.000 It's a great way for people to get around, though. 0.98

00:14:55.000 Look, Austin is a great walking around city.

00:14:58.000 There's a lot of places to just walk.

00:14:59.000 Where my club is on 6th Street?

00:15:01.000 They shut the street down on the weekends.

00:15:03.000 And it's just for people walking around.

00:15:05.000 It's amazing. 0.97

00:15:06.000 It's fucking cool. 0.93

00:15:07.000 Everybody just wandering around, going to bars. 0.98

00:15:10.000 It's really cool.

00:15:11.000 Prime for a bachelorette party on about six or seven of those scooters.

00:15:15.000 Oh, they're always happening.

00:15:16.000 Seeing them get KO'd.

00:15:17.000 They're always happening.

00:15:18.000 And they're in those pedicabs.

00:15:19.000 They're always in the back.

00:15:21.000 Those scooters should be regulated here. 0.98

00:15:23.000 We're lucky to have Josh with us today because Josh had himself a fucking violent wreck on one of those in Louisville? 0.98

00:15:30.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:15:30.000 Oh, man. 0.98

00:15:31.000 Helmet?

00:15:31.000 No helmet.

00:15:32.000 No helmet.

00:15:33.000 Head bang?

00:15:34.000 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 Like a bouncy ball.

00:15:36.000 We're all doing stupid shit. 1.00

00:15:37.000 Off the concrete? 1.00

00:15:38.000 Yeah, off the concrete.

00:15:39.000 Oh, boy.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 I pull out my phone.

00:15:42.000 I'm navigating.

00:15:43.000 We're trying to find a bar.

00:15:44.000 I'm in the lead and pull out my phone and just kind of stand there and then got a tank slapper. 0.94

00:15:50.000 Honestly, my pride has hurt way worse.

00:15:55.000 Yeah, it's not recoverable.

00:15:57.000 When you get older, falling becomes way more dangerous.

00:16:00.000 That's what we said.

00:16:01.000 You know?

00:16:01.000 I used to fall when I was a kid.

00:16:03.000 It was like a normal thing, like, fall off your bike.

00:16:06.000 Now you fall off your bike, like, Jesus.

00:16:08.000 Yeah.

00:16:08.000 Like, checking everything.

00:16:10.000 Yeah.

00:16:10.000 It used to be able to, like, roll.

00:16:12.000 Now it's just you hit and splat.

00:16:13.000 Yeah.

00:16:14.000 Just hit awkward.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:15.000 And then things click.

00:16:17.000 Why is it clicking?

00:16:18.000 Why is my neck clicking? 0.99

00:16:20.000 I'm just thinking about crack bones and shit. 0.99

00:16:23.000 Yeah, don't ride scooters, bro. 0.99

00:16:25.000 Come on, we need you.

00:16:25.000 He learned his lesson.

00:16:26.000 We need you out there making awesome cars. 0.98

00:16:28.000 That's right.

00:16:28.000 I saw that Grand National you guys did.

00:16:30.000 That's another car that I appreciate, but I don't get it.

00:16:33.000 I put that in the Testarossa category.

00:16:36.000 To me, it's like, that's a sedan.

00:16:38.000 That's like a regular sedan.

00:16:40.000 There's nothing special about it.

00:16:42.000 I don't like it.

00:16:42.000 So I've never been into those cars either.

00:16:45.000 I've always hated the G-Bodies. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Not a fan at all, but that's a car that's so fucking violently fast and badass to drive.

00:16:52.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:16:53.000 And it's got like a menacing...

00:16:55.000 It kind of made me a believer in them because it's got like this menacing look about it because it's, like you said, it's like a sedan.

00:17:00.000 Yeah.

00:17:01.000 You look at it and it was an average-ass looking car.

00:17:03.000 But it kind of made me a believer.

00:17:05.000 I turned the corner on the G-Bodies a little bit. 1.00

00:17:08.000 Yeah, a little bit, but it's not the best shape.

00:17:10.000 Those years, what is that, like 87 or something like that?

00:17:13.000 Yeah, those years sucked.

00:17:15.000 It did. 0.99

00:17:16.000 Those years sucked. 0.96

00:17:17.000 Even the greatest stuff that anybody made during those years sucked.

00:17:20.000 When's a Mustang coming?

00:17:22.000 You gotta do a Mustang, don't you?

00:17:23.000 I do have to do a Mustang.

00:17:25.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

00:17:28.000 It's pretty dope.

00:17:29.000 As far as those cars go, it's dope.

00:17:31.000 But it's just, they're not the best looking cars.

00:17:33.000 Like, if you're gonna...

00:17:34.000 I don't know.

00:17:35.000 If you're gonna commit to a car...

00:17:36.000 You like some shape and some...

00:17:38.000 I like the old 70s stuff, right?

00:17:40.000 I like the ones when people were taking acid and making great music.

00:17:43.000 Yeah.

00:17:45.000 That was the era, man.

00:17:45.000 That's the cars.

00:17:46.000 Those are the cars.

00:17:47.000 Yeah, you had these, like, colorful characters that were designers.

00:17:51.000 What's that dude's name? 1.00

00:17:52.000 It was just a fucking nut, dude. 0.99

00:17:54.000 Remember with the crazy clothes? 1.00

00:17:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:57.000 God. 0.85

00:17:58.000 Crazy GM designer. 0.96

00:18:00.000 No, had the red suit all the time. 0.95

00:18:03.000 For sure they did drugs.

00:18:04.000 Tons of drugs.

00:18:06.000 Here's why you can tell.

00:18:07.000 It drops off radically after the sweeping psychedelics act of 1970. So in 1970, they made everything Schedule 1. They turned mushrooms, LSD, everything became Schedule 1. And the purpose of it...

00:18:22.000 Look at this fucking crazy dude. 1.00

00:18:23.000 That's the guy who designed everything. 1.00

00:18:25.000 He's an animal! 0.63

00:18:26.000 Look at him! 0.95

00:18:26.000 You know that dude was doing drugs. 0.95

00:18:27.000 Dude, world famous, famous guy. 0.57

00:18:29.000 So when they made it in 1970, from 70 on, the car started sucking.

00:18:33.000 Yeah.

00:18:33.000 Like, literally.

00:18:34.000 Like, it's like right when everything became illegal, the cars just fell apart.

00:18:38.000 You get, like, a couple of good 71s.

00:18:41.000 Like, the 71 Barracuda's dope.

00:18:43.000 In the carryover cars.

00:18:44.000 Yeah, but you get into, like, the 70 Camaros, and you're like, what did you do?

00:18:48.000 Like, what did you do?

00:18:49.000 It's like, it's okay.

00:18:51.000 But you had perfection.

00:18:53.000 Like, what did you do?

00:18:54.000 That's a funky one to think.

00:18:56.000 Because there's 70 Camaro guys, you know, and I could see, like, there's something about them that's all right.

00:19:00.000 But to veer away from such an iconic design, the 69, it's one of the baddest-ass cars ever made.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 And to just drop that, not even, like, evolve it a little bit.

00:19:11.000 And then you get into, like, the 80s, and you're like, what is that?

00:19:14.000 Yeah.

00:19:15.000 Yeah.

00:19:15.000 The Irox?

00:19:16.000 Like, what is that?

00:19:18.000 What have you done?

00:19:20.000 What have you done?

00:19:20.000 What are you guys doing?

00:19:22.000 Do something?

00:19:22.000 You guys are on the wrong drugs.

00:19:24.000 Well, I think cocaine came in and played a part of it, you know? 1.00

00:19:28.000 His fucking design is awesome! 0.98

00:19:31.000 Send it! 0.99

00:19:32.000 We did a 79 Camaro white one, and it's like, you know, white T-tops, did it for a guy out of Pennsylvania, and we call it the cocaine cruiser. 0.99

00:19:39.000 It's got that look, you know, but the design, it kind of went out the fucking window. 0.59

00:19:45.000 I think, like, AMX, AMC AMX, I'll bet you that entire product line was like an acid trip, I feel like. 0.98

00:19:52.000 Right.

00:19:53.000 Yeah, they had some wild ones. 0.99

00:19:55.000 That's javelins and shit. 0.97

00:19:56.000 Even the way they were, I mean, besides just the drugs, I mean, there's stories about Bill Mitchell. 0.99

00:20:01.000 I mean, he was supposedly, now this is a story as you heard, they were paying prostitutes out of petty cash from General Motors.

00:20:10.000 Of course they were.

00:20:10.000 Like, on a weekly basis.

00:20:11.000 What did they do?

00:20:12.000 Pay them in gold bullions?

00:20:13.000 But they lived a life, like, It was kind of a rock star lifestyle.

00:20:17.000 I mean, there's stories about them getting drunk and taking like a horse-drawn carriage in New York City and driving it like through the Waldorf Astoria. 0.98

00:20:24.000 And I mean, shit like that back in the day. 0.99

00:20:27.000 It's a crazier mentality, and they were getting away with a lot more shit that I think trickled down to the company. 0.99

00:20:32.000 I think they trickled down to the design. 0.99

00:20:35.000 They were rock and roll guys.

00:20:37.000 They made rock and roll cars, man.

00:20:39.000 They really did. 0.97

00:20:41.000 You go back and look at a 1969 Mustang, whatever you were on back then, you fucking nailed it. 0.92

00:20:48.000 There was nothing like that before that. 0.90

00:20:51.000 The difference between the 1950s cars and the 1960s cars is crazy. 0.96

00:20:56.000 Because if you think about the difference between a 2013 car and a 2023 car, not much fucking difference. 0.95

00:21:01.000 You're right. 0.97

00:21:02.000 Even Mustangs and things like that.

00:21:04.000 They look great.

00:21:05.000 You know, 10 years ago, they look great now.

00:21:07.000 But they don't look that much different.

00:21:09.000 That's an old car.

00:21:11.000 But 50s to 60s, that's when the drugs kicked in.

00:21:14.000 That's 100%.

00:21:15.000 They started making the Corvette look like the 67-plus Corvette. 0.99

00:21:19.000 They just had this fucking shape to it. 0.99

00:21:22.000 You know, they just went ham. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Dude, that's a good observation.

00:21:25.000 I've never really put two and two together on that.

00:21:27.000 Because, yeah, the 50s stuff's so, like, civilized and, like, professional.

00:21:31.000 And then it, yeah, definitely... 0.97

00:21:37.000 These guys got fucked up and they made some amazing art. 0.98

00:21:40.000 And that's really what it is. 0.98

00:21:42.000 And what you guys do is take that art and update it.

00:21:45.000 That's what I love.

00:21:47.000 First of all, I love the craftsmanship and just the skill that you guys have.

00:21:52.000 In the engineering that's involved, and I just really, really appreciate all that.

00:21:56.000 All that goes into that.

00:21:58.000 But it's also art.

00:22:00.000 Like, you guys are making art with old art.

00:22:03.000 You take these rusted, old, fucked-up cars, and you strip them all down, put a completely new chassis, put everything in so it works like a modern car, and you get the best of both worlds.

00:22:15.000 You get that look that those cars had. 0.93

00:22:18.000 It was just magical.

00:22:19.000 Whatever they were...

00:22:20.000 Whatever, in the design element of those cars, it's just magical.

00:22:24.000 Dude, that's the key to those, because everybody loves muscle cars, but, you know, people look at them like, you get some dude who's like 45, 50 years old, right?

00:22:32.000 He made himself a bunch of cash, and he says, that looks cool.

00:22:35.000 I want to have it. 1.00

00:22:36.000 Has no fucking idea that when he buys a 70 Cuda, it's a massive pile of shit to drive. 0.99

00:22:42.000 Like a bone stock car. 1.00

00:22:44.000 You have no idea.

00:22:45.000 Because you look at it, you think it's cool.

00:22:46.000 It's fast.

00:22:47.000 It was fast.

00:22:47.000 It's not.

00:22:48.000 It's got the iconic big motor and rumble.

00:22:51.000 My mom had a 1971 when I was growing up.

00:22:53.000 That's when I became infatuated with Kudas. 1.00

00:22:55.000 Really?

00:22:56.000 Yeah, it was with a 340 automatic.

00:22:58.000 Dude, that's a crazy car for your mom to have. 1.00

00:23:01.000 Your mom must have been pretty fucking cool. 0.99

00:23:02.000 She's pretty cool. 0.94

00:23:04.000 Um, but it was like the shape of that car just intoxicated me just as a kid and I was always like but hers was like kind of boring looking it was like kind of a copper bronze color it was like kind of boring stock and I was like man some one day one day that was like the car in my head always was like 70 71 I like both of them there's something about the 70 with the individual headlights it just makes it a little it stands out but that fucking grill in the 71 is pretty wild too Yeah,

00:23:32.000 I like the taillights on the 72. It's a good-looking car, man.

00:23:36.000 It's easy when you start with one of those.

00:23:38.000 We've done a handful of Kudas, because those cars are just good-looking to begin with.

00:23:42.000 You don't really have to touch the body on them.

00:23:44.000 You know, you talk about, like, making art.

00:23:46.000 That car's like art to begin with.

00:23:47.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 Well, I think Dodge did the very best job of doing that retro version of the Challenger.

00:23:54.000 They did.

00:23:54.000 I think that all those cars that, to me, look a lot like an old...

00:23:58.000 Like, the first time I saw the Hellcat, I was like, that's a fucking dope car. 0.99

00:24:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:24:03.000 Dope modern car.

00:24:04.000 Like, you could see driving that 15, 20 years from now.

00:24:07.000 It'd be cool.

00:24:08.000 Dude, they're very cool.

00:24:09.000 My problem with them is we've...

00:24:11.000 Always been around the muscle cars, so you're used to the proportions of like, I've had 70 Challengers, and you're used to those proportions.

00:24:17.000 And when you see that car next to it, it's like, I don't know, it's like the big dumb kid in gym class when you're a kid.

00:24:24.000 It's just like a little overgrown. 0.98

00:24:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:26.000 Why did they become bigger? 1.00

00:24:28.000 All the shit's so much bigger. 0.99

00:24:29.000 It's just the wheelbase, the platform, you know, all the safety requirements they have to have. 0.99

00:24:34.000 The HVAC system in a new modern car or whatever is as big as your entire dash interior of like that 70 Cuda.

00:24:41.000 You pull out the HVAC system under the dash of one of those new ones. 0.97

00:24:44.000 That's why from the steering wheel all the way to the outside of the firewall, I mean, you're talking like three fucking feet. 0.98

00:24:51.000 Really? 1.00

00:24:51.000 It's just the amount of shit they pack into those new cars. 1.00

00:24:55.000 It's fucking nuts. 1.00

00:24:56.000 The horsepower and the performance is pretty mind-blowing on that stuff. 0.99

00:25:00.000 Everybody raves about the muscle car era, but if you stop and think, you could go into the dealership right now and buy a thousand horsepower car.

00:25:08.000 A car that runs nine second quarter miles. 0.99

00:25:10.000 Jamie just got a brand new Tesla Plaid, and I don't know if you've driven one of those, but look, I love muscle cars, but that car makes every car feel stupid. 0.99

00:25:20.000 That's what I've heard. 1.00

00:25:20.000 Stupid. 1.00

00:25:21.000 I mean stupid. 1.00

00:25:22.000 It goes zero to 60 in two seconds. 1.00

00:25:23.000 It flies.

00:25:25.000 It's nuts.

00:25:25.000 It goes so fast, it's like it's time traveling.

00:25:28.000 It goes...

00:25:29.000 Like it moves into positions that no other car can do it. 0.87

00:25:33.000 And somehow it does it silently so you don't feel like a douchebag.

00:25:37.000 Like you're like...

00:25:38.000 And getting in front of somebody, you just go...

00:25:42.000 How wild is it, Jamie?

00:25:44.000 It's crazy.

00:25:44.000 I mean, I barely drove it yesterday because I took it in the back and was just like, oh my god, this is a little...

00:25:49.000 Okay, hold on.

00:25:51.000 I think it's 1100 horsepower.

00:25:54.000 Is it controllable or is it just go by itself?

00:25:59.000 It's so dialed in.

00:26:01.000 There's never wheel spin.

00:26:02.000 I mean, when you take off, there's no wheel spin.

00:26:05.000 It's all completely electronically managed.

00:26:07.000 The base of the thing is all batteries, so the weight is low, so it's got an amazing center of gravity.

00:26:14.000 A thousand twenty horsepower.

00:26:16.000 Oh, back to your point.

00:26:17.000 1.9 seconds, zero to 60. It's nuts.

00:26:20.000 Bro, it's preposterous.

00:26:23.000 I know.

00:26:23.000 It's tough when you talk about that to, like, make the argument against electric cars.

00:26:27.000 Because, dude, the performance is nuts. 0.98

00:26:29.000 I drove the fucking Kuda here today, though. 0.99

00:26:31.000 I didn't drive the Tesla. 0.99

00:26:32.000 It's a different experience.

00:26:34.000 Like, I'm not trying to go...

00:26:35.000 I'm not embracing anybody.

00:26:36.000 I'm just going to work.

00:26:37.000 You know, like, it's the feeling.

00:26:39.000 It's the auxiliary experience.

00:26:40.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:41.000 A little bit of vibration, the noise.

00:26:43.000 You're connected to the car, right?

00:26:45.000 You...

00:26:45.000 I feel like you're the one operating the car.

00:26:47.000 There's a few things in life that people wish they had that are actually worth getting.

00:26:52.000 And muscle cars are one of them.

00:26:53.000 100%.

00:26:54.000 It's just one of them.

00:26:54.000 Dude, modified muscle cars.

00:26:56.000 Modified muscle cars.

00:26:57.000 Like what you guys do.

00:26:59.000 Because it's like, there's a lot of things that people wish they had, and when you have it, it's like, I explained this once, like, My first nice apartment that I ever had was in North Hollywood.

00:27:09.000 When I first moved to California and I was on a TV show, I was like, wow, I got a nice apartment.

00:27:13.000 This is crazy.

00:27:14.000 This is my own place.

00:27:15.000 It had a loft and it had a pool table.

00:27:17.000 And I was sitting in front of my TV and I realized, I go, oh, this is just a house.

00:27:22.000 It's just like every other house. 0.96

00:27:23.000 It's the same feeling I had when I was in a shitty apartment. 0.98

00:27:26.000 It's just your place. 0.93

00:27:27.000 You go to your place, you chill.

00:27:29.000 It's the same feeling. 0.98

00:27:30.000 So all that extra money you pay for these big giant houses and all the crazy shit, you think you're going to get that same amount of juice from like, wow, what an amazing feeling being in this house. 0.97

00:27:41.000 But it's just your house. 0.98

00:27:42.000 You just have that same feeling, oh, I'm in my house.

00:27:45.000 Oh, I'm opening my refrigerator.

00:27:46.000 I'm going to have breakfast.

00:27:48.000 It's the same feeling.

00:27:49.000 Right.

00:27:49.000 It's not the same feeling with cars.

00:27:52.000 I drive the Tesla to work.

00:27:53.000 It's quiet.

00:27:54.000 It's great.

00:27:55.000 I listen to books on tape.

00:27:57.000 I'm cruising along.

00:27:58.000 It makes no sound.

00:27:59.000 It's very relaxing and peaceful. 0.98

00:28:01.000 But when I drive the Camaro to work, it's like I'm in a fucking Doors video. 0.99

00:28:08.000 It's like... 0.98

00:28:12.000 It's a trip.

00:28:13.000 I'm on a Disney ride.

00:28:14.000 I'm in a Disney ride.

00:28:16.000 Are you jamming out to any music in that, or do you just listen to the motor?

00:28:18.000 I jammed out to music until I was halfway here, and I'm like, I didn't want to hear the music anymore.

00:28:22.000 I just wanted to hear the engine.

00:28:24.000 You know, there's both things.

00:28:25.000 Like, I have a Porsche 1993 RS America.

00:28:29.000 It's the rawest car I have.

00:28:30.000 It's not fast at all.

00:28:31.000 It only has like 300 horsepower.

00:28:33.000 It has no power steering.

00:28:35.000 It has no air conditioning.

00:28:37.000 It has no radio.

00:28:38.000 It has no nothing.

00:28:39.000 And it weighs like, I don't know, 2,000 something pounds.

00:28:43.000 It weighs nothing.

00:28:45.000 And it's so fun.

00:28:47.000 I'll bet.

00:28:48.000 It's so different than any other experience.

00:28:51.000 And it's not the fastest.

00:28:52.000 It's the slowest car I have, for sure. 0.99

00:28:54.000 It's not that fast, but it's every mile per hour, everything you're fucking feeling in your ass and in your hands, and it's this raspy, air-cooled... 0.99

00:29:12.000 You don't have to be going fast. 0.99

00:29:13.000 It's just the feeling you're getting.

00:29:16.000 You're on a ride.

00:29:17.000 It requires all of you.

00:29:19.000 All of you.

00:29:20.000 It's like a motorcycle.

00:29:21.000 You're connected.

00:29:21.000 You're making everything happen.

00:29:22.000 You're the one controlling it.

00:29:24.000 There's no computers.

00:29:25.000 There's no traction control. 0.99

00:29:26.000 You have to really steer that bitch, too, because there's no power steering. 1.00

00:29:30.000 So, like, when you're parallel parking, you gotta work your forearms. 0.99

00:29:36.000 It's a lot.

00:29:37.000 But the feeling, the feedback you get is unprecedented.

00:29:41.000 It's just like...

00:29:41.000 And they say it's even more so if you get to, like, these 1970 ones.

00:29:46.000 When they do, like, Chris Harris did that once.

00:29:50.000 He took a, I think it was a 1970 or 71 911 T. See if you can find that video.

00:29:56.000 It's like Chris Harris, my perfect sports car.

00:29:59.000 And so he took this 911 T and he brought it to this guy who makes race cars.

00:30:05.000 And he had him fit it with a roll cage and, you know, ramp up the engine and... 0.87

00:30:11.000 Tune the suspension and there's a video of him driving around the British countryside in this green 1970s Porsche and it's fucking amazing.

00:30:22.000 It's what everybody loves about driving just in one video.

00:30:27.000 This guy who's an automotive enthusiast, he can kind of get any car he wants.

00:30:32.000 I mean, Chris Harris is like the premier auto journalist of our time.

00:30:35.000 And he chooses to have this one little tiny, lightweight, stripped-down car that he has built.

00:30:43.000 Have you found it?

00:30:45.000 Check this out.

00:30:46.000 Give me some volume.

00:30:47.000 I need volume.

00:30:48.000 Oh, no, that's not it.

00:30:49.000 That's the Singer DLS. That's the nasty car, too.

00:30:53.000 The one below it.

00:30:54.000 The one below it.

00:30:54.000 No, not Singer.

00:30:56.000 Chris Harris, 911. Put, like, my perfect sports car.

00:31:02.000 911, my perfect sports car.

00:31:05.000 That era of 911, I mean, it's very similar to the muscle car vibe.

00:31:09.000 Yes, very.

00:31:11.000 That's it right to the second one down. 1.00

00:31:12.000 Remember the green 911?

00:31:13.000 That one.

00:31:16.000 So, this is a car that Chris just like, you know, had built over time.

00:31:22.000 Just give me...

00:31:23.000 Let it go right there.

00:31:28.000 Then we got completely carried away with the engine spec, and I stomped my feet like a child until Richard found a later G50 gearbox and altered the rear torsion tubes to make it fit.

00:31:38.000 Oh, and the engine is 3.4 litres of hand-built sexiness, and it has about 320 horsepower.

00:31:45.000 And the car weighs under 1,000 kilograms.

00:31:47.000 And when we drove it side-by-side with my then-new BMW M3, the Porsche was quicker.

00:31:54.000 The chassis is probably the trickiest bit of all on this car.

00:31:57.000 I didn't just want an RS replica, so we went for the look of an ST, which for those of you less geeky than me on the subject of old 911s, is a car from 1971 with wider arches than an RS and no ducktail spoiler.

00:32:09.000 So we have eight and nine inch wheels.

00:32:12.000 The nines are rare and stupidly expensive, but they do look the business.

00:32:15.000 And that also means we have more mechanical grips and a wider track, and we needed some trick dampers to deal with that. 0.99

00:32:26.000 Shit. 1.00

00:32:27.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:32:28.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:32:33.000 Why do they sound so much smarter than we do?

00:32:39.000 That's why we use them for infomercials.

00:32:41.000 Dummies buy things from people with British accents.

00:32:44.000 Way more eloquent. 0.96

00:32:46.000 ShamWow! 1.00

00:32:50.000 The ShamWow guy was American though, right?

00:32:52.000 He was a wild boy, right? 0.97

00:32:54.000 Didn't he get bit a hooker or something like that? 0.91

00:32:57.000 Is that what he did? 0.98

00:32:58.000 Yeah, he got arrested for biting a hooker. 0.87

00:33:00.000 I never would have guessed. 0.52

00:33:01.000 He seemed like a straight shooter.

00:33:02.000 I think he did that ShamWow, got that ShamWow money and started doing ShamWow money things.

00:33:06.000 Sounds good for him, dude.

00:33:08.000 That's an American success story right there. 0.97

00:33:10.000 I think he's dead.

00:33:12.000 Is he dead?

00:33:13.000 Is ShamWow guy alive?

00:33:14.000 Really?

00:33:15.000 Congratulations, sir.

00:33:16.000 I think it's the OxiClean.

00:33:19.000 Didn't he have a coke problem and killed himself?

00:33:21.000 The OxiClean guy?

00:33:22.000 Billy Mays.

00:33:23.000 Oh, he did. 0.98

00:33:25.000 I'm still trying to get past the biting the hooker.

00:33:27.000 Was that just the problem with the negotiation on the front end?

00:33:29.000 Couldn't you have just...

00:33:30.000 It depends on the tail end, too.

00:33:32.000 What drugs he's on, what the hooker did. 0.83

00:33:35.000 Who knows?

00:33:37.000 Who knows what happened?

00:33:38.000 I don't know the story.

00:33:39.000 Very unfortunate for all involved.

00:33:41.000 But yeah, the Billy Mays guy, he was doing a lot of blow and he had a heart attack or something, right?

00:33:46.000 Is that what he died from, Jamie?

00:33:48.000 Not quite like that, but I don't want to get into it.

00:33:52.000 You don't want to get into it?

00:33:53.000 I'm friends with his son.

00:33:54.000 Oh, that's right.

00:33:56.000 That's right.

00:33:57.000 I'm sorry, Jamie.

00:33:57.000 Sorry for bringing that up.

00:33:58.000 Sorry, buddy.

00:34:00.000 Anyway, who doesn't like to party?

00:34:02.000 Look, James Gandolfini, one of my favorite actors of all time.

00:34:04.000 That's how he went.

00:34:06.000 Partied a little too hard.

00:34:07.000 Blew the ticker.

00:34:09.000 Leave it all on the field.

00:34:12.000 Not that it matters. 0.99

00:34:13.000 That's one of my all-time favorite fucking shows. 0.99

00:34:15.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:34:16.000 Gandolfini was the first guy that you rooted for that was a murderer.

00:34:19.000 He was the hero.

00:34:21.000 He murdered Christopher Moltisanti in the Cadillac.

00:34:28.000 Spoiler alert.

00:34:30.000 I mean, he was the first real, I think, on TV, the first real anti-hero.

00:34:36.000 If you really think about it, was there anybody before him?

00:34:40.000 Jamie, can you think of anybody before him?

00:34:43.000 That'd been like 94, 95?

00:34:45.000 The Sopranos was later than that, I believe.

00:34:48.000 Yeah, I think it was early 2000s.

00:34:51.000 I remember thinking when I was watching, okay, this is totally different than anything ever.

00:34:56.000 Because they can do anything.

00:34:57.000 That intro?

00:34:58.000 That score at the beginning?

00:35:00.000 It was so annoying being Italian then, because everybody wanted to talk like they were in the mob. 1.00

00:35:05.000 All the dumbest Italian guys on the East Coast, like, hey, that's our fucking thing. 1.00

00:35:09.000 This is our thing. 1.00

00:35:10.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

00:35:11.000 Everybody wanted to be on the mob. 0.99

00:35:13.000 It's like people move into Montana because they saw Yellowstone. 1.00

00:35:17.000 It's like the same shit. 1.00

00:35:18.000 It's enticing, man. 1.00

00:35:20.000 Fuck, I watch it. 1.00

00:35:21.000 They sold it hard. 1.00

00:35:22.000 I want to be a rancher!

00:35:24.000 Until you've got to do rancher stuff.

00:35:26.000 I know, man. 0.99

00:35:26.000 You've got to get up at fucking 3 in the morning and feed the cattle. 0.99

00:35:29.000 That's real work. 0.99

00:35:30.000 You can get into shootouts and...

00:35:33.000 Yeah, why are they getting into so many murders? 0.99

00:35:35.000 Blowing up buildings, all kinds of cool shit. 1.00

00:35:37.000 You're in their shoulder deep in a fucking cowl trying to pull out the calf and doing all that shit. 1.00

00:35:42.000 I don't think people realize it's not just all about distressed leather boots and cool jackets. 1.00

00:35:49.000 There's some fucking work there. 0.98

00:35:50.000 Backbreaking work, yeah. 0.99

00:35:52.000 But there's this amazing scene where this old cowboy is talking to this young guy and he's saying, you're doing art for no audience.

00:36:02.000 Like when you're out there.

00:36:04.000 You're doing art for no audience.

00:36:06.000 It's like...

00:36:08.000 If you really love that, that is what it is.

00:36:10.000 That's an interesting way of looking at it.

00:36:12.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 And we're doing it.

00:36:14.000 We're plastering it all over Instagram and the internet and YouTube and trying to get everybody to see it.

00:36:19.000 With an audience.

00:36:19.000 Yeah, with an audience.

00:36:20.000 Doing art for an audience.

00:36:21.000 It's interesting, though, because it is kind of what that is.

00:36:24.000 And there's something about, like, cattle wrangling and all that stuff that somehow or another speaks to human beings.

00:36:30.000 Because I think we evolved doing that.

00:36:32.000 And I think, like, tending to the land.

00:36:35.000 And I think farmers have that sort of same feel, too.

00:36:37.000 There's something about that that's just like natural with human beings.

00:36:42.000 There's a natural human reward system that's involved with cultivating your own food and being involved in a farm.

00:36:50.000 I think it just centers people in a very unusual way.

00:36:54.000 Because I think it's like your body's designed for a certain amount of that.

00:36:59.000 I think it's a good thing, even if it's glamorizing in an unrealistic light, and it does make people go and say they sell their business and they go out there and they're going to become a rancher and then they fail.

00:37:10.000 But at least it is pushing some people to get back to that wilderness living, like...

00:37:17.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:37:18.000 Most people aren't cut out for it.

00:37:20.000 I know.

00:37:21.000 There's a lot of people.

00:37:22.000 Remember that movie with Pauly Shore?

00:37:24.000 Was it Son-in-Law?

00:37:25.000 Yeah.

00:37:26.000 I'll bet you there's so much of that going on out there in Montana.

00:37:30.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:37:31.000 Billings and shit like that. 0.99

00:37:31.000 Well, there's something going on in Wyoming. 0.99

00:37:34.000 Um, Jeffree Star, who's this famous YouTuber, who, like, is, like, uh...

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:40.000 Are they transgender?

00:37:42.000 Or is he gay? 0.98

00:37:43.000 He's very flamboyant. 0.94

00:37:46.000 Very fun.

00:37:47.000 But he's, like, involved in some dispute with his neighbor. 0.93

00:37:50.000 Or he just said his neighbor tried to kill him, run him off the road, and I don't know what the fuck is going on, but he's making Instagram videos about it. 0.86

00:37:57.000 Like, can you imagine you're some rancher and Jeffree Star moves next door? 0.93

00:38:01.000 Have you seen these joke parties?

00:38:03.000 He wouldn't exactly fit in.

00:38:06.000 But maybe he would.

00:38:07.000 I mean, maybe they're open-minded.

00:38:08.000 I don't know what's going on, so I can't really comment.

00:38:10.000 You think he's going down a tractor supply and buying a couple bags of feed?

00:38:13.000 It might be.

00:38:13.000 It'd be fun.

00:38:14.000 Some Carhartts.

00:38:15.000 Who knows?

00:38:16.000 Yeah, Carhartts.

00:38:16.000 I don't think so.

00:38:18.000 I don't think he's right around the field with Lululemon on.

00:38:22.000 I don't know.

00:38:23.000 I don't know what they're doing, but it's like... 0.99

00:38:25.000 RuPaul bought a fucking ranch, too. 0.99

00:38:29.000 RuPaul bought some giant ranch in like Wyoming, lives on a ranch. 1.00

00:38:32.000 How many people out there have been in that industry?

00:38:35.000 They've been in Montana, they've been in Wyoming their whole lives, and they're making a fortune off of selling ranching supplies.

00:38:41.000 All this stuff that they say, for these people that come in, they've just moved.

00:38:45.000 Like, I'm starting a ranch, what do I need?

00:38:47.000 I'm gonna set you up, so what you're gonna need is...

00:38:50.000 Ranch starter kit? 0.73

00:38:51.000 Can you imagine starting a ranch from scratch?

00:38:54.000 What?

00:38:55.000 What are you going to do?

00:38:56.000 Do you know how to do this? 1.00

00:38:57.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

00:38:58.000 The learning curve is going to die. 1.00

00:39:00.000 How many cows do I need? 1.00

00:39:01.000 Several.

00:39:02.000 A whole mess of them.

00:39:03.000 It should actually be a fun reality show.

00:39:04.000 Didn't Jeremy Clark do that?

00:39:07.000 Didn't he do something like that?

00:39:08.000 Didn't Jeremy Clark start a farm?

00:39:10.000 I believe he did.

00:39:11.000 I think he did it for a television show.

00:39:13.000 And the same kind of deal.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, it's got to be all-encompassing.

00:39:19.000 Like, you'd be exhausted.

00:39:20.000 Yeah, Clarkson's Farm.

00:39:22.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 Episode 1 surviving.

00:39:27.000 Dude, it's all changing.

00:39:28.000 Everything's changing in this country because they're moving like...

00:39:30.000 I mean, Austin's a good example.

00:39:32.000 Years ago, it was Texas.

00:39:35.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 It's just badass.

00:39:37.000 Fucking cowboy stuff. 0.99

00:39:38.000 And now it's... 1.00

00:39:39.000 Well, Austin was always very blue.

00:39:41.000 Austin's always been like this blue spot in a red state.

00:39:45.000 And it's always been very progressive.

00:39:47.000 And one of the funniest things that I've ever seen that's like pretty accurate said, there's a t-shirt that said, keep Austin weird and surrounded.

00:39:55.000 It's like, you need the balance.

00:39:58.000 You need the balance. 0.97

00:39:59.000 Because if you're in a place like San Francisco or LA, there's no fucking balance, right? 0.92

00:40:04.000 There's no, like, Republicans on the outside and progressives. 0.95

00:40:07.000 Like, even the progressives here are so much more reasonable than the progressives in LA. Because they encounter, like, rational opposition to their ideas all the time.

00:40:17.000 Yeah.

00:40:18.000 And, you know, that stuff only works in urban environments, like progressive ideology and the policies they push with homelessness and crime and defunding the police. 0.99

00:40:30.000 That shit only works. 0.99

00:40:31.000 And it doesn't work. 1.00

00:40:32.000 It doesn't work at all.

00:40:33.000 But you can only get away with it in urban environments.

00:40:36.000 Of course.

00:40:37.000 In the country, no one's buying any of that.

00:40:39.000 No.

00:40:40.000 It's just like people work too hard. 0.98

00:40:42.000 It's like if you want to get by, you're fucking in a rural area. 0.99

00:40:46.000 No one's interested in that nonsense yourself. 0.99

00:40:50.000 So the beautiful thing about Texas is Austin is this like small city.

00:40:54.000 There's only like a million plus people.

00:40:55.000 Not that many.

00:40:56.000 Right?

00:40:57.000 And then there's another million on the outside.

00:40:58.000 And then outside of it is just Texas.

00:41:02.000 Outside of it is Buc-ee's and fireworks. 0.57

00:41:06.000 Dude, that's what I'm talking about.

00:41:07.000 Gun stores.

00:41:08.000 It's like, it's ranches.

00:41:11.000 It's like, that keeps Austin balanced.

00:41:14.000 Where they don't get too off the rails.

00:41:16.000 They don't go to Portland.

00:41:17.000 I'm going to ask you about the homeless stuff.

00:41:20.000 We were here, what, two years ago?

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 And it was really, really getting...

00:41:24.000 It was height of, you know, pandemic stuff and all that.

00:41:27.000 But, man, last night, going around, it's way different.

00:41:31.000 Yeah, they cleaned it up.

00:41:32.000 They did it in a very intelligent way.

00:41:34.000 They acquired hotels, and they bought buildings and housed people, and they have a bunch of different programs they do to try to help people get back on their feet, and they discourage camping.

00:41:46.000 They won't let people camp.

00:41:47.000 You just can't camp under the bridges. 1.00

00:41:49.000 They clean up your shit. 1.00

00:41:50.000 They'll take you out of there. 1.00

00:41:51.000 They'll let you know that there's resources available for you.

00:41:55.000 But the real problem in all these cases is mental illness.

00:41:59.000 That's the real problem.

00:42:00.000 Mental illness and drug addiction.

00:42:02.000 And both of those things kind of go hand in hand.

00:42:04.000 And a lot of those folks are like badly, badly addicted to drugs.

00:42:08.000 And they can't Sustain themselves and they can't support themselves and I don't think encouraging them to just camp out everywhere like they do in San Francisco And they actually give them money for doing that that doesn't help anybody.

00:42:19.000 It's not helping them.

00:42:20.000 It's not helping your community It's terrible and everybody knows it.

00:42:24.000 You don't think that enabling them and giving them like needles and stuff like California does is beneficial or?

00:42:29.000 I think they should give everybody's money.

00:42:31.000 All the money.

00:42:31.000 If they were rich, they'd have no problems.

00:42:33.000 Just give them all a million dollars.

00:42:35.000 Come on.

00:42:36.000 All the money we're spending in Ukraine is only like 2,000 homeless people.

00:42:39.000 They could afford that.

00:42:40.000 Dude, I don't know.

00:42:40.000 I don't know if it kills your problems.

00:42:41.000 Look at the fucking Shamwell guy, you know? 0.99

00:42:44.000 Different problems. 1.00

00:42:45.000 Different problems.

00:42:46.000 Amplifies it, maybe.

00:42:47.000 Yeah, I mean, if you just gave them money, it wouldn't help.

00:42:50.000 You really...

00:42:51.000 I don't know what to do. 0.89

00:42:52.000 I mean, I think that when a person is that fucked, when their mind is that fucked, and they're that far gone in terms of life, they have no hope, and they're just covered in filth, and they're living in a tent... 0.76

00:43:05.000 Taking that person and rebuilding them is a massive project. 0.99

00:43:09.000 It's probably going to take as much time to make them normal as it took for them to get that fucked up. 0.99

00:43:15.000 So you think about childhood abuse, sexual abuse, violence, detention, juvenile system. 0.99

00:43:23.000 They've gone through jail.

00:43:24.000 They've gone through so many different things.

00:43:27.000 They have no hope that life is eventually going to be awesome.

00:43:31.000 When you wake up, you go to an awesome job.

00:43:33.000 You guys have a cool place.

00:43:34.000 You work with cool people. 0.99

00:43:35.000 You make awesome shit. 0.99

00:43:36.000 That feels good. 1.00

00:43:38.000 That's like a good feeling.

00:43:39.000 These guys never have good feelings unless they're getting high.

00:43:42.000 And that's the scary thing.

00:43:44.000 You get them out of that and then they're going to be depressed.

00:43:46.000 They have nothing going on.

00:43:47.000 They're 43 years old.

00:43:49.000 They've never had a job.

00:43:50.000 How do you fix that?

00:43:52.000 But you don't fix it by just letting them camp out somewhere.

00:43:55.000 I mean, I don't know what the solution is because at a certain point in time, it's like It's so hard to turn people around.

00:44:03.000 And they have to want to turn around.

00:44:05.000 It has to be in them that they somehow or another want to do better.

00:44:09.000 Because some people don't want to do better.

00:44:11.000 They just want to stay high.

00:44:13.000 They're just like, I feel better when I'm high.

00:44:15.000 I'd just rather stay high.

00:44:16.000 And they just do heroin.

00:44:18.000 Just get caught in that rut.

00:44:19.000 You've got a lot of huge megachurches out there that aren't doing nothing for them.

00:44:23.000 You've got tens of thousands of people in arenas.

00:44:27.000 I mean, they're not doing... 1.00

00:44:29.000 Shit. 1.00

00:44:30.000 I don't think they can do anything. 1.00

00:44:32.000 But they're not doing anything.

00:44:34.000 They're not doing anything.

00:44:34.000 But I don't think they can do anything.

00:44:36.000 I don't know what you can do.

00:44:38.000 Other than what they've done in Austin, but Austin is a small...

00:44:41.000 I had the mayor on, Stephen Adler, and we talked about it.

00:44:44.000 And one of the things that he said was like, it's my goal before I leave office to put...

00:44:50.000 A handle on this homeless thing.

00:44:51.000 If I don't do that, I've failed.

00:44:52.000 And I think he did it.

00:44:54.000 But the thing that he said was, we can do it because we only have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 homeless people.

00:45:01.000 He goes, Los Angeles is unmanageable.

00:45:03.000 They have like 100,000 homeless people.

00:45:05.000 When you get to that point, have you ever seen Skid Row in downtown LA? It's insane.

00:45:12.000 I saw it in person in the early 2000s, before the pandemic.

00:45:16.000 And it was nuts then.

00:45:18.000 Like, I couldn't believe it.

00:45:20.000 And it was engineered.

00:45:21.000 They used to take people, when they would arrest them, and dump them off on Skid Row.

00:45:26.000 They'd take people and bring them there.

00:45:29.000 They literally set up these homeless shelters, and they set up these food banks, and these people just live on this street.

00:45:36.000 It's a zombie movie.

00:45:38.000 It's so crazy when you go down there.

00:45:40.000 What is this?

00:45:42.000 This is saying that there's up to 10,000 people now homeless in Austin.

00:45:46.000 10,000?

00:45:47.000 Yeah, 1% of the population.

00:45:49.000 What?

00:45:49.000 According to the city of Austin's own count.

00:45:51.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:45:52.000 Is this new? 0.99

00:45:53.000 Yeah, I mean, they moved them out of the downtown area under the bridges, and they all live out in the parks now, apparently.

00:45:58.000 Oh, and like state parks?

00:45:59.000 Not even state parks, like city to city parks.

00:46:01.000 This is Zilker Park, I think.

00:46:02.000 What?

00:46:03.000 Yeah.

00:46:04.000 Wow.

00:46:06.000 That's crazy, man.

00:46:08.000 I didn't know that.

00:46:09.000 So they just got it out of view?

00:46:10.000 Is that what they did?

00:46:10.000 Yeah, I believe so.

00:46:11.000 So what it is, is like there's different people that...

00:46:15.000 Have to patrol that?

00:46:17.000 It might be different than the cops that are patrolling people on the streets.

00:46:20.000 168 different camps across the city.

00:46:22.000 Wow.

00:46:24.000 Wow.

00:46:26.000 Often hidden from public view in the woods.

00:46:28.000 For sure.

00:46:29.000 Dude, it's kind of like, you know, sweeping the floor.

00:46:33.000 Okay, take everything I said back.

00:46:34.000 Under the rug there a little bit.

00:46:35.000 They just got it off the streets.

00:46:36.000 Just blew the lid off of that one.

00:46:38.000 They just got it off the streets and now there's campments.

00:46:39.000 Back when your mom said, clean the room. 0.55

00:46:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:41.000 I did a great job.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, right under the rug.

00:46:43.000 All under the bed.

00:46:46.000 So are those all marks on the map that are homeless encampments?

00:46:49.000 Yeah, as of, uh, published February 26th, I think it was as of June.

00:46:55.000 And so they think there's 10,000 people?

00:46:57.000 Is this like some New York Post exaggeration?

00:46:59.000 I don't know.

00:47:00.000 But that's what the Austin City thinks?

00:47:04.000 Yeah, City of Austin County.

00:47:05.000 What do we know about homelessness in Austin?

00:47:07.000 Wow, so if that's the case then, when the mayor was on, which was a couple of years ago, the number's gone up by 8,000 people?

00:47:14.000 There's another crazy story.

00:47:15.000 That's why I was looking, while you guys were talking, that Mayfair Hotel in LA. Yeah.

00:47:19.000 Remember that's come up in a bunch of documentaries and all sorts of stuff?

00:47:22.000 They just paid, the city paid $11.5 million in damages because they used that in what they called Project Room Key, which got a bunch of people off the street into housing.

00:47:32.000 But immediately, drug use, damages in the hallways, violence, all sorts of stuff.

00:47:38.000 And now the city wants to buy that building for like $83 million.

00:47:41.000 Oh, wow.

00:47:42.000 Wow.

00:47:42.000 And do what?

00:47:43.000 House homeless people and just let it stay being a shit home? 1.00

00:47:46.000 If you're telling me they gave them a free room and they destroyed it. 1.00

00:47:48.000 Yeah.

00:47:49.000 They're a little, you know, self-destructive.

00:47:51.000 They're not in the best state of mind.

00:47:55.000 Yeah.

00:47:55.000 I don't know how we got on that subject.

00:47:57.000 Yeah.

00:47:57.000 You said something about Buc-ee's.

00:47:58.000 Have you seen the Buc-ee's? 0.99

00:48:00.000 No, they're building one in Mexico, but it's not a Buc-ee's. 1.00

00:48:05.000 It's a knockoff? 0.88

00:48:06.000 Yeah, they got them cease and desist and all that shit, and they're still building it. 0.84

00:48:09.000 Did you see what they did with In-N-Out? 0.90

00:48:11.000 Uh-uh.

00:48:11.000 In Mexico, they have...

00:48:13.000 It's not in and out.

00:48:17.000 It's like in...

00:48:19.000 Knee out?

00:48:20.000 Something like that?

00:48:23.000 It's the same logo.

00:48:25.000 It's the same look.

00:48:26.000 Yeah, so it's not called in and out.

00:48:29.000 What is it called?

00:48:32.000 So this is in Culiacon, Mexico.

00:48:36.000 In, I, and out.

00:48:37.000 It looks exactly like In-N-Out.

00:48:40.000 When you go there, the burgers are all the same, the trays are the same, animal style, the whole thing's the same.

00:48:46.000 They just stole the menu, they stole the way it looks, and they barely changed the name.

00:48:53.000 Gotta applaud their effort there.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're making Ferraris. 0.99

00:48:58.000 It's a fucking cheeseburger, you know? 0.99

00:49:01.000 You can make a cheeseburger exactly like that cheeseburger. 1.00

00:49:04.000 Yeah, but you could also come up with your own name. 1.00

00:49:06.000 Or you could just say, fuck you, I live in Mexico. 1.00

00:49:11.000 Ride the goat tails. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Yeah, what they could do is just eventually change the name.

00:49:16.000 Oh, Buck 2's Super Mercado. 0.99

00:49:18.000 Look, they got the fucking gopher on it and everything! 0.99

00:49:21.000 Same as the Buc-ee's guy. 0.99

00:49:22.000 It's not quite as big as the Texas version.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, it's a little downsized.

00:49:27.000 Buc-ee's is an impressive establishment, though. 0.99

00:49:29.000 It's a Walmart.

00:49:30.000 You go in there, you're like, what is this?

00:49:31.000 This is insane.

00:49:32.000 This is at a gas station?

00:49:34.000 You'd go broke at the beef jerky bar.

00:49:36.000 You've been to the beef jerky buffet?

00:49:39.000 Yeah, it's preposterous.

00:49:39.000 I mean, you gotta try a little bit of everything.

00:49:42.000 Yeah, it's a ridiculous place. 0.99

00:49:43.000 It's so Texas. 1.00

00:49:45.000 That's why I talk about it on stage, because it's so fucking Texas. 1.00

00:49:48.000 It's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:49:49.000 Speaking of on stage, fucking last night, dude, thank you. 0.99

00:49:53.000 It was phenomenal. 0.99

00:49:55.000 Thank you.

00:49:55.000 Glad you guys had a good time.

00:49:57.000 Dude, phenomenal time.

00:49:59.000 You run that place and your whole entire staff.

00:50:01.000 I mean, hats off.

00:50:02.000 It's like watching an orchestra.

00:50:04.000 Like, seriously.

00:50:05.000 Yeah, they're all very good.

00:50:06.000 Everybody's great.

00:50:07.000 It's a lovely little environment that we've created.

00:50:11.000 It's real fun.

00:50:11.000 And everybody loves it.

00:50:12.000 It's like, everybody's having a good time.

00:50:14.000 It's real nice. 1.00

00:50:16.000 And you're working your fucking ass off. 0.99

00:50:17.000 Yeah, we're doing a lot of work. 1.00

00:50:18.000 But it's not work. 1.00

00:50:20.000 It's talking shit. 1.00

00:50:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:22.000 It's fun. 1.00

00:50:23.000 Dude, my fucking hat's off to you. 1.00

00:50:25.000 I mean, you're busting. 0.99

00:50:26.000 ass there and that's i don't know where the you get the energy from i'm 40 years old and i look at you i'm like god damn what am i doing wrong but i'm used to doing it i do it every day you know it's normal yeah yeah it's fun but it's fun it's just fun you know when you're doing stand-up like the hard part is the writing the writing and the creating new bits and working them out on stage that's the the tricky part the hard part But the fun part is just having a good time. 0.96

00:50:51.000 People have fun. 0.64

00:50:53.000 It's just having a good time.

00:50:55.000 You're just making a good time.

00:50:57.000 It's a great environment.

00:50:58.000 Cool place.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, it's beautiful.

00:51:01.000 Just like I was saying, you guys have this great job.

00:51:03.000 You go and do something that's very rewarding.

00:51:05.000 That's what owning a comedy club is like.

00:51:08.000 It's like we're providing this really fun experience.

00:51:11.000 It's like you can go, have a couple of drinks, laugh, have a great time, fun people, nice people, loving people.

00:51:20.000 It's like fun, beautiful environment.

00:51:22.000 There's only a few jobs in the world that provide that.

00:51:28.000 For us, you almost live there.

00:51:30.000 It's not a job, it becomes a lifestyle.

00:51:32.000 The shop, I spend more time there than I do anywhere else.

00:51:36.000 That's what you do.

00:51:38.000 That's the lifestyle that you live.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, and all the different personalities have to kind of like figure their spot, like figure out how to like get along with each other.

00:51:47.000 Yeah.

00:51:47.000 That could be a real issue.

00:51:49.000 It can be.

00:51:49.000 That could be a very, very interesting issue.

00:51:51.000 You know, we get like 95 people total.

00:51:55.000 Oh, wow.

00:51:56.000 And there's, you know, different personalities, different talents, different personalities, a lot of...

00:52:03.000 Well, it's a bunch of artists.

00:52:04.000 I mean, they're craftsmen.

00:52:05.000 I mean, imagine having 95 comics.

00:52:08.000 All living in the same...

00:52:09.000 Yeah, you're going to have issues.

00:52:12.000 Especially when they're around each other all day.

00:52:14.000 Like, we only see each other at night, you know?

00:52:16.000 Yeah.

00:52:17.000 So you go through your whole day, and most of these guys are, like, playing golf or doing something else, and then they come to the club.

00:52:23.000 I think there's a lot of similarities in any type of art and creation because you are getting some of that instant gratification as far as you're gratifying yourself with what you're creating, but you also get from that customer and you get stuff.

00:52:37.000 You're doing the same thing in the comic stuff.

00:52:39.000 I mean, you're getting...

00:52:40.000 It's not like you're putting in the work now, and then a year from now you'll see if it paid off or not, as far as that joke.

00:52:47.000 Throughout the night, you're knowing right now if it's hitting or not hitting or working.

00:52:51.000 There's something, I guess, different.

00:52:52.000 I mean, I'm looking at a corporate job of somebody going and pushing papers and having to wait for a year review before somebody said that you actually moved the needle or did a good job or whatever.

00:53:01.000 Right, and how much joy are you getting from what you're doing every day?

00:53:04.000 That's the big one.

00:53:05.000 Because if you can have a job that pays more money, but you hate it, That's not a good trade-off.

00:53:13.000 You want to feel good.

00:53:15.000 At all the things in life, if you get sick, what's the first thing you think?

00:53:22.000 Like, God, I really should have appreciated when I wasn't sick.

00:53:25.000 I really should have taken care of myself better.

00:53:27.000 I really should have been more careful.

00:53:28.000 I should have got more sleep.

00:53:29.000 I should have taken my vitamins.

00:53:31.000 And you vow, like, when I get better, I am going to appreciate this.

00:53:36.000 And that...

00:53:38.000 That applies to jobs too. 0.98

00:53:40.000 If you have a job that sucks, and you fucking hate it, you hate what you do, and you do it all the time, and you're just in there because you have to be there all day, your day is dread. 0.98

00:53:51.000 And if you can get paid less to do something that makes you feel better, that's so much more valuable. 0.99

00:53:58.000 As long as you can get by, you are so much better off getting paid less.

00:54:03.000 And enjoying what you're doing.

00:54:04.000 Unless you have a family and you have to support people and you have obligations.

00:54:07.000 I understand. 0.98

00:54:08.000 I'm not saying you should go fucking risk your life on a whim. 0.96

00:54:11.000 But I am saying that, like, if you can pick a path in life that is more enjoyable, I feel like... 0.99

00:54:19.000 There's a lot of miserable rich people.

00:54:22.000 That's not the end-all.

00:54:23.000 It's a trap.

00:54:24.000 What you really want is to feel good.

00:54:26.000 You really want to feel good about your purpose in life, like the things you do, the way it impacts other people.

00:54:31.000 And that's what you guys do.

00:54:33.000 You guys make sure, like the look on people's faces when you deliver those cars.

00:54:38.000 Dude, for us, that's what gets you out of bed every morning, because it's hard work. 0.95

00:54:42.000 Just like how you're out there sweating your ass off and busting your balls, and I'm sure sometimes it's tough. 0.96

00:54:47.000 Building cars the same way. 0.98

00:54:48.000 I mean, they rip your heart out.

00:54:49.000 They challenge you.

00:54:50.000 It is tough, tough work. 0.99

00:54:52.000 But the finished product, the goal, and what makes it all worthwhile is giving you a car, and you drive it, and you're like, holy fuck, that thing's badass. 0.94

00:54:59.000 It doesn't matter if we made money, lost money, what's going on. 0.97

00:55:03.000 That's the goal.

00:55:04.000 That's what I thrive on, you know?

00:55:06.000 Yeah.

00:55:07.000 That was going to be my point when you hit on it is you're coming from the mentality of You're gonna always work as hard as you have to and then some to be successful at what you're doing and then because you've put in the work you're achieving goals which is what makes you happy.

00:55:23.000 There's people out there that don't want to put in the work and they're unhappy because they're not seeing success but they're not seeing success or being gratified or being happy with what they're doing because they're not willing to put in the work either.

00:55:33.000 They don't know what to do.

00:55:34.000 Some people just have no experience in putting in the work.

00:55:37.000 They don't know what that even means.

00:55:39.000 They don't know what grind Yeah, they just, they didn't have, like, that's one of the things that I think is very important about kids with competition, any kind of competition, whether it's chess or whether it's athletics, sports.

00:55:50.000 There's something about realizing that hard work equals getting better.

00:55:55.000 And hard work equals performance.

00:55:57.000 Like, you perform better when you work hard.

00:55:59.000 And you learn that.

00:56:01.000 Like, extreme examples are like wrestling.

00:56:04.000 People who go through wrestling practice, you realize this is hard to do.

00:56:09.000 And if you can get good at this, you can kind of get good at anything.

00:56:13.000 Because if you can push yourself mentally to deal with the grind of wrestling practice, you can kind of do anything.

00:56:19.000 It's just, if you can learn that lesson early on, though, about working hard, some people don't ever learn it.

00:56:25.000 They just play video games and eat Twinkies, and then one day they're 40. I gotta get my shit together. 0.98

00:56:31.000 Wrestling practice, like you said, being at wrestling practice and doing it hard is hard. 0.94

00:56:35.000 Becoming a good wrestler is even harder because it's not just at wrestling practice. 0.97

00:56:40.000 Like you said, it's when you come back from wrestling practice and thinking that you deserve a fucking treat because you worked really fucking hard that day and you need to eat like shit or you need to do this or you get to go and do... 0.97

00:56:49.000 It's all of the lifestyle to perform at a high level that's fucking hard, not just the act of doing what you're trying to do. 0.98

00:56:56.000 Well, especially when you get to a championship level.

00:56:58.000 When you get to All-Americans, state champs.

00:57:02.000 National champs.

00:57:03.000 I mean, those guys, there's not a stone unturned. 0.65

00:57:06.000 Those guys are animals.

00:57:07.000 They're doing everything exactly the right way because the competition is so stiff.

00:57:12.000 If you don't do it, the edge between you and another guy who's equally talented but works harder, he's gonna get better than you.

00:57:17.000 He's gonna bypass you.

00:57:19.000 And you feel it in practice.

00:57:20.000 There's guys that you know are running in the morning before practice.

00:57:24.000 You know these guys are doing the stairs.

00:57:26.000 Those guys have more gas.

00:57:28.000 Those guys are more driven.

00:57:30.000 And you always notice because those are the guys that win in the training room.

00:57:33.000 And that's the same with jujitsu.

00:57:35.000 It's the same with kickboxing, with everything.

00:57:39.000 There's guys that are very naturally talented.

00:57:42.000 For whatever reason, they just have great genetics and they learn things better.

00:57:46.000 But oftentimes, those guys don't work as hard.

00:57:49.000 Sometimes the really naturally talented guys are a little lazy because it kind of came easy to them.

00:57:53.000 They get outworked.

00:57:54.000 Yeah.

00:57:55.000 The rare ones are the ones that are super talented and also crazy disciplined.

00:58:01.000 That's how you get a Michael Jordan.

00:58:03.000 That's how you get a Mike Tyson. 0.99

00:58:04.000 You get crazy disciplined and insane talent.

00:58:08.000 And insane genetics. 0.99

00:58:10.000 And then you're fucked because you're not going to beat that person. 1.00

00:58:13.000 There's only a few of those. 0.99

00:58:14.000 It's the devoting everything to just winning and nothing else matters.

00:58:19.000 That's the goal.

00:58:19.000 That's the only direction.

00:58:21.000 You sacrifice everything else to get to that level.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, I think that's not good either, right?

00:58:26.000 Your life is a disaster, but there's one thing you do you're the best at.

00:58:31.000 That's interesting, too.

00:58:33.000 Competition.

00:58:35.000 Yeah.

00:58:36.000 You either have that competitive, I want to be better, or you don't.

00:58:41.000 Do you guys make cars, like, thinking about shows, thinking about, like, SEMA and showing people up?

00:58:47.000 You know, we used to do stuff like that, you know, where you're, like, you're competing for an award, but it's not.

00:58:53.000 You're never looking at, like, I'm going to do this because I want to win this award.

00:58:58.000 You're just trying to make the best possible car you can.

00:59:01.000 And, yeah, it's great, like, at the finish line if you get said award.

00:59:05.000 And sometimes you've got some customers that like that.

00:59:08.000 You know, some guys are, like, trophy chasing or they like parking the car and sitting at the show and, you know, waiting there for the awards ceremony and getting that, you know, half-million-dollar car and you get that $50 plaque and it makes it all worthwhile.

00:59:21.000 Right?

00:59:22.000 But...

00:59:23.000 No, man.

00:59:23.000 We've changed gears quite a bit over the years.

00:59:27.000 For me, it's the driving experience.

00:59:29.000 Making a car that's so functional, workable, that's just a blast to get in and drive.

00:59:36.000 And it's more rewarding getting a guy.

00:59:39.000 A dude comes up to the shop, picks up a car, and drives it 1,000 miles home.

00:59:44.000 That's better than getting that little plaque at a car show because you blew through an extra $700,000 trying to make something over the top.

00:59:53.000 Right.

00:59:54.000 All for that, you know?

00:59:55.000 Yeah.

00:59:56.000 And most of those cars are not drivable at that point or you're going to be scared to death to drive it.

01:00:01.000 Not drivable?

01:00:02.000 When you're going to the insane show car trying to win every indoor award.

01:00:07.000 Really?

01:00:07.000 They're not drivable?

01:00:08.000 When you look at our industry, it's wacky. 0.68

01:00:13.000 The stuff you see that's so over the fucking top, like those hero cars and stuff, that's not something you're going to jump in and drive. 0.85

01:00:20.000 You're not driving that to work. 0.96

01:00:22.000 When you say hero cars, are you talking about those Baja racer things?

01:00:25.000 No, you see stuff that's like...

01:00:27.000 Riddler.

01:00:28.000 Yeah, like SEMA show coverage or like the biggest, like the Riddler Award, like Josh says, you've got these cars that are like a million, two million dollar builds.

01:00:37.000 Chrome-plated rotors and felt pads.

01:00:40.000 You know, this is like show car, show car upon show car.

01:00:43.000 Oh, so you can't even drive it at all?

01:00:44.000 No, it's in and out of the trailer.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, and the tires are all wrapped in saran wrap so the tires don't get dirty.

01:00:49.000 What?

01:00:50.000 Yeah.

01:00:51.000 Really?

01:00:52.000 That's going away now, thank goodness, because the audience or the customers are changing, right?

01:00:58.000 And they're wanting to use these cars, right?

01:01:00.000 But everybody was so focused on chasing that trophy or going to a show and winning that trophy.

01:01:06.000 We want to go and make a good showing for the company with whatever we bring, right?

01:01:10.000 But worrying about a panel of judges or somebody judging the car and them deciding what's cool, that would be like...

01:01:16.000 You not having an audience and just having, like, Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul saying if it was a good joke or not, you know? 0.78

01:01:22.000 You want you to know that you're doing good and by the audience and everybody be like, fuck yeah, that's awesome. 0.98

01:01:28.000 And we want our customers and you want your fans and people that buy our chassis to be like, that's fucking cool. 0.96

01:01:35.000 What would be the purpose of felt rotors? 0.65

01:01:37.000 So it doesn't scratch the chrome and stuff like that.

01:01:39.000 These are show car...

01:01:41.000 Dude, it's...

01:01:42.000 It's felt pads and chrome rotors.

01:01:44.000 In and out of the trailer, man.

01:01:46.000 That's it.

01:01:46.000 Some guys paint tires so they look black and they look always perfect.

01:01:50.000 It's almost like if you look, and I don't want this to sound disrespectful, but like a competitive bodybuilder versus like a fighter.

01:01:57.000 They're both working out.

01:01:59.000 But this dude's building his model.

01:02:00.000 He's not using them for anything other than flexing them.

01:02:02.000 Right.

01:02:03.000 Show muscles.

01:02:04.000 You're talking about show muscles?

01:02:05.000 Well, I guess.

01:02:06.000 It's the same thing with cars.

01:02:07.000 You build these over-the-top cars and all they do is they kind of go up there and they...

01:02:11.000 The difference between an NFL running back, a super athlete.

01:02:15.000 That dude's working out because he wants to just fucking accelerate down the field like a rocket ship. 0.95

01:02:20.000 Versus someone who just wants to be a mass monster. 0.98

01:02:26.000 Yeah.

01:02:27.000 I just don't understand why anybody would want to make a car that they're not going to drive.

01:02:31.000 That mindset, I don't get that at all.

01:02:34.000 There's only one reason to have a car.

01:02:37.000 It's strange.

01:02:37.000 I mean, there's been some wild stuff, like people that take down the side of their barn or the top story of their house and place a car in it, build it back up, and the car lives there forever.

01:02:48.000 It's kind of like I mean some of it I get it could be like art you can make something that's absolutely fucking beautiful and it's an art piece but to me it's dude you're building cars because you want to drive them yeah should be I could see having like a really old like Ferrari sitting in one of them rotary things it spins around it's like an art piece because they're fascinating to look at sure and driving them is probably not the best experience Yeah,

01:03:15.000 not at all.

01:03:15.000 Have you ever driven like a stock old GTO? No, and I never have.

01:03:21.000 It's probably pretty engaging.

01:03:23.000 Just tons of stock old muscle cars.

01:03:25.000 They're terrible.

01:03:27.000 You get in a C1 Corvette that's stock, could be the worst performing vehicle ever.

01:03:32.000 Really?

01:03:32.000 Yeah, the ultimate American sports car, and we're always amazed that they're still on the road, that people don't just wind them up in ditches everywhere.

01:03:39.000 Is it that bad?

01:03:40.000 Oh, it's so bad.

01:03:41.000 So all that stuff.

01:03:42.000 You got like the, so the Bronco market, you know, that's great.

01:03:44.000 Like the early Bronco stuff.

01:03:46.000 Yeah.

01:03:46.000 Because those are, that is a popular, popular truck.

01:03:50.000 And that's one of those things where somebody sees, they just see it and they just want it because they think it's cool and they think they're going to drive it.

01:03:56.000 Right.

01:03:57.000 Like, dude, you're not driving, that's not your Range Rover.

01:03:59.000 Okay.

01:03:59.000 You're not going to drive it.

01:04:00.000 But that's, and that's just, sure, they want to drive it.

01:04:04.000 It just physically doesn't perform well enough for them to drive it. 0.99

01:04:08.000 But, I mean, that's what we do is fix all that shit, you know? 0.98

01:04:12.000 You get that classic look of the car, but it functions like a new vehicle. 0.99

01:04:16.000 I have an Icon Bronco.

01:04:17.000 Okay, so yeah, well, that's all chassis swaps.

01:04:20.000 Same thing, yeah, same thing.

01:04:22.000 But even that, it's like, it's so raw.

01:04:24.000 Like, the difference between driving that and driving a modern, like a G-Wagon or something like that, it's a joke.

01:04:29.000 Yeah.

01:04:29.000 How often do you drive that thing?

01:04:30.000 Well, right now it's getting worked on, so I'm getting some upgrades.

01:04:35.000 What are you upgrading?

01:04:36.000 It's got a coyote in it?

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Supercharging it.

01:04:39.000 Let's go.

01:04:40.000 Dude, that's dicey.

01:04:41.000 Let's go. 0.99

01:04:41.000 Yeah, you're thinking about the Camaro being fucking sketchy. 0.99

01:04:44.000 Let's go. 0.99

01:04:46.000 I like a little dice.

01:04:47.000 All right.

01:04:48.000 I like horsepower, foot and a half shorter wheelbase.

01:04:51.000 I like a little dicey.

01:04:52.000 Just every now and then.

01:04:54.000 What do you do with that?

01:04:54.000 That truck's just for, like, bobbing around town, though?

01:04:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:57.000 It's just for fucking around. 0.99

01:04:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:59.000 I have a Land Cruiser that Icon made for me that's a real, like, performance Land Cruiser.

01:05:04.000 It's, like, really set up for off-road.

01:05:06.000 Yeah.

01:05:06.000 And it's got a supercharged LSA in it.

01:05:10.000 Nice.

01:05:10.000 So it's got a lot of power.

01:05:12.000 Sure.

01:05:12.000 But it's got those solid axles, and it's lifted.

01:05:16.000 All the good stuff.

01:05:16.000 When the snow came, you know, we had, like, a snowpocalypse, and everything shut down in Austin.

01:05:21.000 I loved it.

01:05:22.000 My car was like a Labrador Retriever just rolling around in the snow like, yay!

01:05:26.000 It's like, this is what we're designed for.

01:05:29.000 It just handled everything so well.

01:05:33.000 I literally built an apocalypse truck.

01:05:35.000 It's got a big-ass gas tank.

01:05:37.000 Back seats come out so it can be completely flat.

01:05:39.000 You can store things in it.

01:05:41.000 It's got extra batteries.

01:05:43.000 It's got winches and the whole deal.

01:05:45.000 What do you do about EMP Pulse?

01:05:47.000 About what?

01:05:48.000 Well, if that happens, does that shut off regular cars?

01:05:51.000 How does it do that?

01:05:53.000 It fries all the electronics.

01:05:54.000 So it fry the electronics that runs the LSA? Yeah, you gotta have something that runs on biodiesel.

01:05:59.000 You're going down a fucking rabbit hole. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

01:06:01.000 You get into that apocalypse vehicle. 1.00

01:06:03.000 Josh is building a Model T in his garage.

01:06:04.000 What would cause the EMT flare?

01:06:09.000 They talk about China doing an EMP flare.

01:06:22.000 That is the thing about all these cars that are controlled by electronics.

01:06:26.000 It's something to think about.

01:06:28.000 You know, these modern engines, these crate engines, they all come with electronics.

01:06:31.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:06:33.000 If something like that happens, I'm just going to go out with whatever the fuck's going on. 0.98

01:06:37.000 I'm not too worried about that. 0.98

01:06:38.000 You're not running around?

01:06:39.000 Yeah.

01:06:39.000 I think you get the right idea with your apocalypse vehicle.

01:06:42.000 Well, Jonathan Ward, he does some cool shit. 0.98

01:06:44.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:06:44.000 It's all icon stuff, right? 0.97

01:06:46.000 Jonathan's an interesting cat.

01:06:47.000 He is, dude.

01:06:48.000 We do a little podcast.

01:06:49.000 We had him on there.

01:06:50.000 He's cool as hell.

01:06:51.000 He's kind of like a competitor, I guess you'd say, but we respect him.

01:06:55.000 We had him on, and he's an eccentric dude, man.

01:06:58.000 Interesting.

01:06:58.000 He's a real artist.

01:06:59.000 He's a real artist.

01:07:00.000 And, you know, what he's doing is interesting, too.

01:07:03.000 He takes a lot of cars, like you guys do, when you do the Legend series, where he doesn't do anything to the outside of him.

01:07:09.000 He leaves this funky old patina of like...

01:07:12.000 Sun-baked paint and blotches and shit, but meanwhile inside it's immaculate and the suspension's immaculate and everything drives incredible. 0.73

01:07:21.000 I mean he does that with a bunch of old cars. 0.98

01:07:25.000 That's like the majority of our business, believe it or not.

01:07:27.000 Like all the dudes that have had like really over-the-top, shiny, cool, big-dollar cars, they all want that.

01:07:33.000 Find like an old Camaro, it's priceless, right?

01:07:36.000 You find a 69 Camaro that's got faded old paint, and it's unsuspecting, flies under the radar, but it's like eight, nine hundred horsepower, crazy motor, air conditioning, power windows, full chassis underneath it, a sleeper.

01:07:49.000 Yeah, well, there's something cool about that, too, because you're not worried about it getting dirty.

01:07:52.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 You know, like, that's the thing about people walking up to their car with the microfiber cloth and just pawing everywhere they go.

01:07:57.000 It's like, come on, man.

01:07:58.000 I've only built patina cars because I can't stand wiping down my own stuff after dealing with customer cars.

01:08:03.000 Oh, really?

01:08:04.000 So your personal cars are all patina cars?

01:08:06.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 Really?

01:08:06.000 What do you got?

01:08:07.000 Yeah, me too.

01:08:08.000 77 C10. He's got a 76. Here's a 77 as well.

01:08:12.000 His is lifted.

01:08:13.000 Mine's lowered.

01:08:14.000 We're doing a 70 Trans Am.

01:08:15.000 Yeah.

01:08:16.000 Trans Ams were a car. 1.00

01:08:17.000 The Burt Reynolds days, those were a car that still kind of holds up.

01:08:21.000 Yeah, this is a little pre, this is pre-Burt Reynolds.

01:08:23.000 This is the 70. Oh, those look great.

01:08:25.000 That's an ass-kicker, dude. 0.99

01:08:26.000 You talk about, like, you know, that falls right in line with your Camaro. 1.00

01:08:30.000 Yeah, let me see a 70 Trans Ams. 1.00

01:08:32.000 70s, white with the blue stripe, and it's a rare, rare car, because that's another one.

01:08:36.000 It was original paint.

01:08:37.000 Look at that.

01:08:38.000 Yeah.

01:08:40.000 That's a dope car. 0.98

01:08:42.000 Yeah, there's something about the Hood Scoop and those cars that just like, especially the Burt Reynolds ones.

01:08:48.000 Have a lot of people done like resto mods on those?

01:08:50.000 Yeah, the Burt Reynolds, that's one of those things where it's like that.

01:08:53.000 Jesus Christ, what is that thing?

01:08:54.000 Yeah, it's a wild race car thing.

01:08:56.000 It's one of your SEMA kind of builds.

01:08:58.000 But the Burt Reynolds one, so many people have done that.

01:09:02.000 That's a car, the 70, that's a car that proves you can buy cool. 1.00

01:09:07.000 Because you buy that, I don't care who the fuck you are. 1.00

01:09:10.000 You're driving that, you're a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:09:12.000 That's a cool car. 1.00

01:09:13.000 It's a cool car.

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:15.000 Those old trucks lend themselves to that patina look, don't they?

01:09:19.000 They do.

01:09:20.000 So I drive a 77. It's a 4x4.

01:09:23.000 It's one of those Legend trucks.

01:09:24.000 That's the only...

01:09:25.000 Do you have a picture of it?

01:09:26.000 It's on the website.

01:09:28.000 Well, if you just Google Roadster Shop Legend 77 truck, there's a bunch of articles and stuff on it, but that's what I daily drive.

01:09:36.000 Yeah, that tan one that's shredding the... 0.93

01:09:38.000 Blue one's mine, tan one's his.

01:09:40.000 Where's the tan one? 0.65

01:09:41.000 The upper left?

01:09:42.000 Yeah, down there.

01:09:44.000 That's it?

01:09:45.000 Yeah.

01:09:46.000 That's it, just getting after it.

01:09:47.000 So what's that got in it?

01:09:48.000 That's a 650 horse supercharged LT4, but it's all like independent front suspension, push button four-wheel drive.

01:09:56.000 Oh, wow.

01:09:58.000 Yeah, I leave it outside.

01:09:59.000 I don't park it in the garage because my kids' toys are all filling up one half of the garage, and that's my daily transportation.

01:10:06.000 Wow, that's a sleeper, huh?

01:10:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:08.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:10:09.000 Yeah, that thing just wrecks dudes. 0.99

01:10:12.000 I drive a lot of cool, fast shit where it's flogging customer cars, but that truck, it's like, anytime I drive it, there's some dude in a C8 or some badass muscle car, and I just... 0.76

01:10:22.000 Ruin their day. 1.00

01:10:23.000 Constantly in that fucker. 1.00

01:10:25.000 Put it in four-wheel drive and smoke them off the line. 0.99

01:10:26.000 Well, it's probably pretty light.

01:10:28.000 It's not...

01:10:28.000 Yeah, it's like probably four...

01:10:30.000 A little over 4,000 pounds.

01:10:32.000 For a big-ass truck, that's pretty light.

01:10:33.000 That thing screams... 0.86

01:10:34.000 That's like a modern Mustang, right?

01:10:36.000 Yeah.

01:10:37.000 Yeah, you're right in line with any of that stuff.

01:10:38.000 Yeah.

01:10:39.000 Which is pretty crazy with 650 horsepower.

01:10:42.000 And it's a truck.

01:10:43.000 It's essentially like a 2018-2019 Chevy truck that's got all the new Chevy suspension under it.

01:10:49.000 The independent front and the live axle.

01:10:50.000 And, I mean, it's got...

01:10:52.000 The radiator module, the cooling stack.

01:10:54.000 I mean, under the hood and underneath is like a brand new Chevy truck.

01:10:58.000 Does it handle like a brand new Chevy truck?

01:10:59.000 It handles like a brand new truck, dude.

01:11:00.000 Yeah, 100 miles an hour down the highway, one hand on the wheel.

01:11:04.000 Wow.

01:11:04.000 Yeah.

01:11:05.000 But there's something cool about that, like you talked about the Patino and the thing.

01:11:09.000 We've got so many of these customers.

01:11:10.000 We're building...

01:11:11.000 I don't know a dozen of these things right now for guys that we built other cars for, but it's like an old pair of boots or an old pair of jeans that you can't buy a new pair that would fit like that, right?

01:11:19.000 Right.

01:11:19.000 Your favorite.

01:11:20.000 So you're finding these, like we got one that's like a Northwestern, like Oregon or Washington state park truck, right?

01:11:28.000 It was that green, and that thing had, what, 20-something thousand original miles on it, original paint.

01:11:32.000 It was a cream puff.

01:11:33.000 The interior's cool, and then another guy's finding one, he's like...

01:11:36.000 Well, that's Matt, Matt Saxon.

01:11:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:37.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:39.000 The Chevelle.

01:11:39.000 The 70's Chevelle from.

01:11:40.000 That's his.

01:11:40.000 Yeah.

01:11:41.000 Yeah, he sent me pictures of that.

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:44.000 Yeah, it's pretty dope.

01:11:45.000 You're still able to build a one-off car that can't be duplicated because you're finding something super unique and original that Mother Nature weathered for you?

01:11:53.000 Yeah.

01:11:53.000 And then have something that nobody else can have.

01:11:55.000 And you're finding stuff that came from fire departments or old ranches.

01:11:58.000 I mean, guys are searching all...

01:11:59.000 Because you want that little bit of that story of, like, nobody's going to recreate this truck that...

01:12:04.000 Yeah, there's my car.

01:12:05.000 Yeah.

01:12:05.000 Ooh, baby.

01:12:06.000 Look at that fucking thing, son. 1.00

01:12:09.000 What a sexy car. 1.00

01:12:10.000 I never get tired of looking at that one.

01:12:11.000 Well, I told you guys a story about why I was infatuated with that car.

01:12:14.000 When I was 16 years old, my friend picked me up in one.

01:12:17.000 His buddy was driving, it was his car, and I remember being in the car thinking, how can someone own this?

01:12:22.000 How is it possible that this could be, like, you could have this?

01:12:26.000 Someone can have this?

01:12:27.000 This is insane!

01:12:28.000 Because it was so cool!

01:12:31.000 Same exact, for me, I guess it was 82?

01:12:37.000 83?

01:12:37.000 Somewhere around there?

01:12:38.000 16?

01:12:39.000 Yeah, it was 83. Yeah, and I remember just thinking, this is the most insane thing.

01:12:42.000 I can't believe a person could own this car.

01:12:44.000 It was just so cool.

01:12:46.000 And he ran out of gas.

01:12:48.000 It was really funny.

01:12:49.000 And coasted right into the gas station and stopped, like, right at the pump.

01:12:54.000 I'm like, this is the coolest car that's ever lived. 0.99

01:12:56.000 He has a Chevelle, he runs out of gas at the perfect time on a hill and coasts into the fucking gas station. 0.99

01:13:02.000 Like, literally, we were laughing. 0.99

01:13:03.000 Like, filled the gas tank up.

01:13:04.000 Like, right there.

01:13:06.000 Well, the Chevelle, the Camaro, and now the Cuda are three very similar, yet completely different vehicles.

01:13:14.000 Yeah.

01:13:14.000 In all ways.

01:13:15.000 But you...

01:13:15.000 Each one of them has their place, like...

01:13:19.000 I don't know.

01:13:19.000 You feel different driving the Chevelle.

01:13:22.000 It's a different state of mind. 0.99

01:13:23.000 You feel like fucking Wooderson. 0.99

01:13:26.000 You feel like Matthew McConaughey. 0.97

01:13:27.000 Are you friends with anybody?

01:13:29.000 Has he seen it?

01:13:31.000 No, he hasn't seen it.

01:13:32.000 I told him I have it though.

01:13:34.000 Shaped my career like a movie and that car and then here that's why that car exists is Because of him and Matt came to us to build one we're like it's but it's going black and white dude hundred percent That's this is what you're getting black and white is the best look there's cools I've seen some cool ones that are silver with black stripes That's a pretty good second,

01:13:51.000 but number one is black with white stripes for that car There's other ones like the red with white stripes.

01:13:57.000 It's not as tough.

01:13:59.000 Red with black stripes.

01:14:00.000 What was that movie, Reacher?

01:14:01.000 You had a red with black stripes?

01:14:02.000 Yeah.

01:14:04.000 It's not bad.

01:14:05.000 No, not as cool as Wooderson, though.

01:14:06.000 Yeah.

01:14:07.000 Well, it's just sometimes with a certain shape.

01:14:11.000 That color, just like color combinations are just iconic.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 You know?

01:14:16.000 Yeah, that car, the body lines in the side of it, it's got these like, you know, cool little hips and eyebrows and the body lines and the black makes it pop. 0.98

01:14:23.000 Yeah, it's just, again, that era where they just figured some shit out. 0.97

01:14:28.000 That wacky dude in his crazy suits. 0.99

01:14:31.000 How do you pick that?

01:14:33.000 Like, you got the Chevelle sitting there and the Camaro sitting there.

01:14:35.000 What frame of mind are you?

01:14:37.000 And you're like, I'm taking the Chevelle.

01:14:39.000 I don't know.

01:14:39.000 What's the decision process?

01:14:40.000 The Chevelle's the loudest and least civilized out of all the cars.

01:14:44.000 It's the most rowdy because it's got that 454 in it, you know, naturally aspirated.

01:14:49.000 It sounds insane.

01:14:51.000 And it's so, like, the interior of it looks exactly like, except for the dash, it looks exactly like the original car.

01:14:57.000 It's much more of a throwback, you know?

01:15:00.000 It's like asking what album you're going to listen to.

01:15:02.000 It's like what mood.

01:15:04.000 Well, that's what I was getting at.

01:15:06.000 That one's my favorite.

01:15:08.000 Matt would send it back to the shop when we were doing road tours or something and we'd do the basic service work and then ship it to wherever he was going and get in and just rip first, second, third in that car and it was just smile ear to ear. 1.00

01:15:19.000 I'm like, fuck yeah, this is why we do this shit. 1.00

01:15:22.000 You did that because you're rolling that fucker through the high schools trying to pick up them high school girls, man. 1.00

01:15:26.000 Alright, alright. 0.99

01:15:29.000 Did you have to roll your sleeves up or did it do it automatically when you got it?

01:15:32.000 It did automatically when it came in, yeah.

01:15:34.000 Hair kind of grew out a little bit longer.

01:15:37.000 Yeah, that look of the rolled with the cigarette in the upper sleeve.

01:15:40.000 Where'd that go?

01:15:41.000 That went away.

01:15:42.000 It did.

01:15:43.000 That's probably a blessing.

01:15:44.000 That was like a cool look for guys for a while.

01:15:46.000 They would roll a pack of cigarettes up in their sleeve.

01:15:49.000 Remember that?

01:15:50.000 I think you should bring it back.

01:15:52.000 I've never, I've unfortunately never done it.

01:15:55.000 There it is!

01:15:55.000 The cigarettes in the sleeve, look at them!

01:15:58.000 Alright, alright, alright.

01:16:02.000 I don't know why they ever did that.

01:16:04.000 I wasn't around for that era.

01:16:06.000 You'd think you'd have pockets.

01:16:07.000 The jeans were too tight for the pockets.

01:16:09.000 I think people were just weird back then.

01:16:11.000 They were just lost.

01:16:13.000 Just showing everybody off that they smoked.

01:16:15.000 They had no internet.

01:16:17.000 They didn't know what to do.

01:16:18.000 They were just trying to imitate cool people.

01:16:20.000 They didn't know what to do.

01:16:23.000 It's the beginning of modern culture.

01:16:26.000 Yeah, that's as cool as it gets for me right there.

01:16:28.000 What's left on the bucket list for cars?

01:16:31.000 I don't know.

01:16:32.000 I don't know.

01:16:33.000 I'm just enjoying what I got right now.

01:16:35.000 That's how I'm kind of doing it.

01:16:37.000 It's like, come on.

01:16:38.000 I got a lot of cars.

01:16:39.000 It's a lot to look after.

01:16:40.000 Yeah.

01:16:41.000 It's stressful, isn't it?

01:16:42.000 No.

01:16:42.000 No?

01:16:43.000 No.

01:16:43.000 Being poor is stressful.

01:16:47.000 Looking after cars is just a thing.

01:16:49.000 It's just a thing that you do.

01:16:51.000 It's not stressful.

01:16:52.000 It's just a thing, you know?

01:16:54.000 You got to do things.

01:16:55.000 Yeah, I accumulate too much crap and it stresses me out, you know? 1.00

01:16:59.000 It can, if you let it fuck with you. 1.00

01:17:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:17:03.000 But that's like hoarders, you know?

01:17:05.000 Yeah, I suppose.

01:17:06.000 That's the ultimate example of it.

01:17:08.000 You're not there yet. 1.00

01:17:09.000 Yeah, look at all this shit going on fucking eBay now. 0.99

01:17:12.000 All these people that, I mean, even just like iPhone, iPhone 1 is going for big fucking money, and like all these electronics that nobody, like those Nokia phones that were bulletproof or whatever are going for big fucking money on the internet. 0.99

01:17:24.000 All this shit from our era that we threw out in fucking shoeboxes or it was in the kitchen drawer and shit. 0.96

01:17:28.000 How much are people paying for iPhone 1s? 1.00

01:17:31.000 iPhone 1s are going for big money.

01:17:32.000 $60,000.

01:17:33.000 Get out of here.

01:17:34.000 You can find one in a package still.

01:17:36.000 What do you do with it?

01:17:36.000 Just put it on your shelf?

01:17:38.000 Yeah, that's the big problem.

01:17:40.000 How weird is that?

01:17:42.000 How weird is that? 1.00

01:17:43.000 Someone would give you $60,000 for a phone that sucks. 0.99

01:17:47.000 Last week they were talking, this is on the news or whatever, this is all dumb, useless knowledge, but they were selling the iPhone. 0.98

01:17:54.000 If you had an iPhone that hadn't been updated, it still had the Twitter logo and not the new X logo. 0.86

01:17:58.000 They were selling those for big money.

01:18:00.000 I swear.

01:18:02.000 But it'll automatically upload if you get on Twitter.

01:18:04.000 I guess if you've got a broke phone, it won't automatically upload. 0.95

01:18:08.000 Then all your apps will suck.

01:18:12.000 Who's going to spend big money for a phone just because it's still got the old Twitter logo? 0.99

01:18:17.000 Dorks.

01:18:18.000 The same kind of people that have felt rotors in their cars. 1.00

01:18:22.000 There's dorks out there. 1.00

01:18:24.000 People like weird shit. 1.00

01:18:25.000 I don't understand. 1.00

01:18:27.000 When Post Malone was on here, he told me he paid $2 million for a Magic the Gathering card.

01:18:32.000 Dude.

01:18:33.000 That's a bit much.

01:18:35.000 Seems like a little pricey.

01:18:36.000 It's a little nerdier than I thought he was. 1.00

01:18:38.000 Oh, he loves that shit. 1.00

01:18:39.000 Yeah, when I was hanging out with him backstage after a show, he's like, we're gonna go play Magic the Gathering. 1.00

01:18:44.000 You want to come?

01:18:44.000 I'm like, no.

01:18:46.000 But dude, that's...

01:18:46.000 If you guys have a good time, go to sleep.

01:18:49.000 That's what happens. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Like, I remember the Magic the Gathering kids in high school and you're fucking with them, right? 0.99

01:18:53.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:18:53.000 But now they're cool. 0.98

01:18:54.000 They grow up to be Post Malone. 0.99

01:18:55.000 Like, who's fucking laughing at Post Malone? 0.99

01:18:57.000 Most of them do not. 0.99

01:18:59.000 The vast majority do not grow up to be Post Malone.

01:19:04.000 Yeah.

01:19:05.000 But yeah, I mean, he's into it.

01:19:07.000 I mean, who knows why people are into it?

01:19:09.000 He's into muscle cars, too.

01:19:10.000 He's got a crazy Hennessy six-wheel Raptor.

01:19:13.000 It's like a velociraptor with the four wheels in the back.

01:19:18.000 Man, that's definitely a statement piece, I guess is the polite way of putting that.

01:19:25.000 I just don't understand that car.

01:19:26.000 Would you drive one of this?

01:19:27.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 If I had one, I'd drive it.

01:19:30.000 Would you have one?

01:19:32.000 I have a Hennessy.

01:19:33.000 I have a TRX. Yeah, I have a 1,000 horsepower TRX. It's ridiculous.

01:19:38.000 The six wheel, though, always just seems like it's the Eastern European villain from one of the Fast and Furious franchise movies. 0.89

01:19:44.000 Right, right.

01:19:44.000 From Despicable Me.

01:19:45.000 It's Gru's car.

01:19:47.000 It's just a little, yeah.

01:19:49.000 He says he can't park it.

01:19:50.000 He says he goes to Applebee's and it sticks out. 0.98

01:19:52.000 And he feels bad because it's like fucking jutting into the next park. 0.97

01:19:56.000 Him going to Applebee's is the punchline of that story. 0.99

01:19:59.000 He loves Applebee's.

01:20:00.000 Really?

01:20:00.000 Yeah, Post loves Applebee's.

01:20:02.000 Damn, does he get the sampler over there? 0.99

01:20:04.000 Dude, the sampler fucks at Applebee's. 1.00

01:20:06.000 I'm with him, dude. 0.98

01:20:09.000 Applebee's has some fans.

01:20:11.000 Comfort food.

01:20:13.000 The Jack Daniel's barbecue.

01:20:15.000 That was TGI Friday. 1.00

01:20:16.000 You're confusing your shitty restaurants. 0.99

01:20:18.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

01:20:21.000 What's a thousand horsepower in a TRX? It's ridiculous. 0.67

01:20:25.000 It's so fast. 0.88

01:20:26.000 You use the power and all you get on it?

01:20:27.000 I mean, you kind of do.

01:20:28.000 What it does, it just does normal acceleration much quicker.

01:20:33.000 Post has a black one, I think.

01:20:36.000 I was like, Is it white?

01:20:37.000 Oh, yep, that's it.

01:20:38.000 Okay.

01:20:39.000 I saw...

01:20:40.000 Oh, with the photo that we showed of his the other day was a black one.

01:20:43.000 It must not have been his.

01:20:44.000 Unless he got a new one.

01:20:46.000 But yeah, he's...

01:20:46.000 He's a wild fella.

01:20:48.000 I'm not gonna say shit. 1.00

01:20:49.000 He's into some cool shit. 1.00

01:20:50.000 Cool fucking dude. 1.00

01:20:51.000 Good for him. 1.00

01:20:52.000 Fucking get whatever the fuck you want. 1.00

01:20:53.000 That's gotta be a heavy-ass truck, too. 1.00

01:20:56.000 That's a lot of weight.

01:20:57.000 That's a lot of, that's just a lot of thinking.

01:20:59.000 A lot of things.

01:21:00.000 A lot of things going on.

01:21:01.000 To be honest with you, Josh has a Raptor.

01:21:04.000 I could see you modding that thing out, adding a second set of wheels to it.

01:21:07.000 No, you can't.

01:21:08.000 That's kind of your style, a little bit. 1.00

01:21:11.000 They like to fuck with me all the time. 1.00

01:21:14.000 Fucking parking that thing fucking long ways in front of the shop in the morning. 1.00

01:21:16.000 Dude, you could put the Doberman in the front seat of that. 1.00

01:21:18.000 It does seem like a waste of time.

01:21:20.000 A little bit.

01:21:21.000 Why not put two in the front, too?

01:21:23.000 How about three in the front?

01:21:24.000 How about five in the back?

01:21:25.000 Six-wheel raptor, I've got a mini giraffe. 0.99

01:21:27.000 I'm not fucking with a Doberman at that point. 0.98

01:21:29.000 I'm just doing a mini giraffe. 0.99

01:21:30.000 Yeah, just a giraffe with his head out the window. 0.99

01:21:33.000 Not knowing what the fuck's going on. 0.93

01:21:35.000 Have you guys ever had someone come to you with a project and you're like, I don't want to do this. 0.97

01:21:41.000 You know, things have changed over the years.

01:21:43.000 I'll say that.

01:21:44.000 I'm sure it's similar to your career.

01:21:45.000 Like when you got first started, young Joe Rogan, like somebody came to you for some TV show thing or something.

01:21:51.000 You're like, yeah, sure, I'll do that. 0.98

01:21:53.000 In our youth, early days, we painted a fucking car like a lobster for a guy. 0.99

01:22:01.000 Dude, it's... 0.99

01:22:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:03.000 Didn't think we were going there.

01:22:04.000 Like with claws and stuff?

01:22:04.000 No, the whole car.

01:22:05.000 I don't have any shame.

01:22:07.000 I'll disclose it, right?

01:22:08.000 It was like 19...

01:22:09.000 40-30-something Hollywood Graham that somebody hot-rodded and he's in the seafood business so he wanted it painted like a lobster.

01:22:16.000 So we legitimately took this thing and airbrushed everything. 0.99

01:22:20.000 It looks like a fucking lobster. 0.97

01:22:22.000 Is it online? 0.99

01:22:23.000 I don't think we put that on the website.

01:22:25.000 We kept that off.

01:22:26.000 Just because you worried someone else would ask for something?

01:22:28.000 Yeah.

01:22:29.000 I want mine to be a clam.

01:22:31.000 Yeah, it's out there somewhere.

01:22:32.000 No, I mean, where we're at now, you know, we've got such a massive backlog of work that you can...

01:22:38.000 Yeah, I don't want to do something that...

01:22:39.000 You want to be a little passionate about it, right?

01:22:41.000 Sure. 0.97

01:22:41.000 So if it totally sucks, yeah. 0.97

01:22:43.000 Right.

01:22:43.000 We'll kind of politely decline that's just not really for us.

01:22:48.000 Most of the customers that are coming that are legit and they want something built, they're coming because they're fans or they're followers.

01:22:54.000 They, again, like artists, not to put ourselves on anything, but...

01:22:57.000 They've seen the work you've done previously, and they're like, I want a Roadster Shop version of whatever.

01:23:01.000 Do your thing. 0.99

01:23:02.000 Fucking A. You've been great about that. 0.99

01:23:04.000 I fucking want a Chevelle. 0.99

01:23:06.000 Whatever. 0.97

01:23:08.000 The bad part is when it's a video that launches or anything that goes up, you get a massive influx of customer emails.

01:23:15.000 Phil has to usually deal with those.

01:23:17.000 And it's the ones that, unfortunately, you have to get back to everybody, treat everybody like the same.

01:23:21.000 But if it's a...

01:23:23.000 I've got a 92 Corsica, and I want to do it rear-wheel drive with an LS. How much would that cost?

01:23:31.000 Well, we all know that that's probably not...

01:23:34.000 If you had the money to build the Corsica, you wouldn't own a Corsica.

01:23:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:23:38.000 Right.

01:23:39.000 You would have something else.

01:23:39.000 You'd be calling about a Camaro or something like that.

01:23:41.000 Unless you're an eccentric rich dude. 0.95

01:23:43.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 None of those have paid off.

01:23:45.000 No, it's not Corsicas.

01:23:47.000 I don't even remember what a Corsica looks like.

01:23:50.000 It's like the... 0.68

01:23:51.000 Remember the shitty front-wheel drive GM cars that were like...

01:23:54.000 Have you had anybody come to you and say they want to build something like this up?

01:23:58.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:23:59.000 It happens all the fucking time. 0.99

01:24:00.000 It's ten a week. 1.00

01:24:02.000 Constantly.

01:24:03.000 Emails.

01:24:03.000 Basically to change anything from what it is.

01:24:06.000 If it's front-wheel drive, they want to make it rear-wheel drive.

01:24:08.000 If it's rear-wheel drive, let's make it front-wheel drive.

01:24:09.000 Let's make it all-wheel drive.

01:24:10.000 Let's make it EV. Right now the EV thing is stupid. 1.00

01:24:14.000 Let's EV everything because, or... 0.99

01:24:17.000 Unevy it.

01:24:18.000 I've got a Tesla, let's put an LS in it.

01:24:20.000 You know, I know Rich Benoit did a lot of stuff there. 1.00

01:24:23.000 But it's always, I just, these guys just want to fuck with shit. 0.99

01:24:26.000 Let's just, let's do something that wasn't done. 1.00

01:24:29.000 Interesting. 0.99

01:24:30.000 And it's not about because it's cool, or let's make something beautiful, let's make it usable, let's just fuck with it. 0.59

01:24:36.000 So do you guys have like a large backlog now of people that want to do projects? 0.57

01:24:40.000 We do, yeah.

01:24:41.000 I mean, on the car build side, we probably, at any given point, we're working on 30-ish projects.

01:24:48.000 And it's, I mean, it's a couple years to get something going. 0.99

01:24:50.000 Damn. 0.97

01:24:51.000 But the bulk of our business, our focus is the chassis manufacturing. 0.99

01:24:55.000 So, you know, we build, I mean, over a thousand performance chassis a year.

01:25:00.000 And that's the fun one where you can take on those projects like that.

01:25:05.000 Like, dude calls, there's a Bricklin kit car that was just in the shop.

01:25:09.000 We've got donks that come through there and step vans, delivery vans, like crazy stuff.

01:25:14.000 Fire truck.

01:25:15.000 Somebody else is going to spend, we'll build the chassis.

01:25:18.000 Somebody else is going to take it from there.

01:25:20.000 Right.

01:25:20.000 Another shop's doing it.

01:25:21.000 Right.

01:25:22.000 You know what a Bricklin looks like?

01:25:23.000 You'd look good in a Bricklin. 0.97

01:25:25.000 What's a Bricklin? 0.72

01:25:26.000 What is it?

01:25:26.000 It's a 72 Bricklin?

01:25:27.000 It was a kit car from the 70s.

01:25:29.000 SV or whatever?

01:25:30.000 SV. Put them on a Corvette chassis.

01:25:32.000 Big dull wing doors.

01:25:33.000 Oh god.

01:25:34.000 For drug dealers.

01:25:35.000 There were four guys that played Magic the Gathering kind of car guys.

01:25:40.000 No, these would be successful hobby shop.

01:25:42.000 Oh god, look at that thing.

01:25:43.000 Successful hobby shop owner is perfect.

01:25:46.000 Successful hobby shop owner is hilarious.

01:25:49.000 That's a hilarious description. 1.00

01:25:50.000 Wow, what a gross piece of shit. 1.00

01:25:55.000 That thing's awful. 1.00

01:25:56.000 That thing's awful.

01:25:58.000 They have a cult following.

01:25:59.000 The shop that's building it and the customer, they've got a vision. 0.98

01:26:01.000 They're going to take that and modernize and do a bunch of crazy cool shit. 0.91

01:26:05.000 I can see that. 0.56

01:26:06.000 I've seen people do stuff like that with Ford F40s.

01:26:12.000 I've seen them do stuff like that.

01:26:13.000 It's pretty interesting.

01:26:15.000 You know, like, mod them and wide-body them, and that car's tiny.

01:26:19.000 That's a tiny little car.

01:26:21.000 On which car?

01:26:21.000 The Ford, like, the original Ford GT. The original one, not the 2005 one.

01:26:26.000 What is it called?

01:26:27.000 Not F40. What is it called?

01:26:29.000 GT40. GT40. That's a sick car.

01:26:31.000 Sick car.

01:26:32.000 But a lot of people have done things to those, like taken them and, like, extremely modded them.

01:26:37.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:26:38.000 And put twin-turbo engines in them and wide-bodied them and shit. 0.93

01:26:42.000 It's just like... 0.96

01:26:43.000 Yeah.

01:26:44.000 Well, Superformance brought those back, so they made it available.

01:26:47.000 Because you get, like, an exact reproduction of that car.

01:26:49.000 Oh, really?

01:26:50.000 They're starting with kit cars to do that.

01:26:52.000 The original ones are worth millions.

01:26:54.000 Who does that?

01:26:55.000 Superformance.

01:26:55.000 They do a ton of them.

01:26:56.000 Sue?

01:26:57.000 S-U-E? S-U-P-E-R. Super. 0.96

01:26:59.000 Oh, Superformance.

01:27:00.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, they do a lot of the Cobras and stuff. 0.98

01:27:02.000 They're fucking badass. 0.71

01:27:03.000 It's a nicely built piece, but that's a car you don't need that kind of power in. 0.98

01:27:07.000 I mean, that thing's, like, this big.

01:27:09.000 Yeah, they're so tiny.

01:27:10.000 That's why it's crazy that people are putting twin turbocharged 1,000 horsepower engines in them.

01:27:15.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:27:16.000 Wow!

01:27:17.000 That'd be along the lines of the Porsche you're talking about.

01:27:19.000 Just analog. 0.99

01:27:21.000 Holy shit, look at that thing. 0.99

01:27:24.000 Yeah, they do a good job. 0.99

01:27:26.000 So they build a brand new one?

01:27:28.000 It's brand new, built exactly like the original car was built, except the body's not aluminum.

01:27:33.000 Wow.

01:27:34.000 It's Shelby license.

01:27:35.000 It goes in the register, too.

01:27:37.000 Is it all modern suspension?

01:27:40.000 It's an exact duplicate of what was there.

01:27:42.000 So it drives like the original car?

01:27:44.000 Yeah, I think they got like a ZF transaxle in them or something like that, which would be like a Pantera kind of transaxle.

01:27:51.000 Modernized coilovers and brakes, but that's it.

01:27:54.000 Yeah.

01:27:54.000 So just some suspension components.

01:27:57.000 Little mild upgrades.

01:27:58.000 And same horsepower as they do in modern motors.

01:28:01.000 Yeah, you can put whatever you want in them.

01:28:03.000 But that's a good example.

01:28:04.000 That's like the Porsche example.

01:28:05.000 Like, put 500 horsepower in that, that thing's going to be a thrill.

01:28:10.000 Right.

01:28:10.000 Just an absolute blast to drive.

01:28:12.000 Yeah, and if you went too much, it'd probably be unmanageable, right?

01:28:15.000 Yeah.

01:28:16.000 Especially mid-engine like that.

01:28:17.000 Yeah.

01:28:19.000 It's interesting how mid-engine cars...

01:28:23.000 In America, all we have is the Corvette, right?

01:28:27.000 That's what we've got now.

01:28:28.000 I mean, now you get the Corvette and you got the new GT, which isn't exactly as mainstream as the C8. Yeah, and I have the old GT. I have a 2005. That's a rad car.

01:28:38.000 It's a rad car.

01:28:39.000 But there's only a few of those, right?

01:28:42.000 But as far as production cars, the Corvette is the first time America has made a mass production car.

01:28:49.000 Yeah.

01:28:49.000 You've never gravitated to the newer Vets, have you?

01:28:52.000 I don't like the automatic.

01:28:53.000 If they had a stick, I'd buy one.

01:28:55.000 They just don't do that anymore, for whatever reason.

01:28:58.000 I just think they're missing out on what's fun about driving a car.

01:29:02.000 It's like Porsche still gets it.

01:29:04.000 Mustang still gets it.

01:29:05.000 But they don't get it when you get up to like the GT500. That was the old thing about the old GT500. You could only get it in a stick.

01:29:11.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 I had like a 2011 or something like that.

01:29:15.000 It was great.

01:29:16.000 That was a scary car.

01:29:17.000 I've driven a couple of those. 0.99

01:29:18.000 Oh, fucking great. 0.99

01:29:19.000 I loved it. 0.99

01:29:19.000 It was way before trash control or anything like that. 0.99

01:29:22.000 That thing was just...

01:29:22.000 It was super squirrely.

01:29:24.000 Super squirrely, like around corners and shit, but it was fun. 0.97

01:29:27.000 You knew what it would do. 0.97

01:29:29.000 But it was also just a thrill to drive, the rumble.

01:29:33.000 It was very old-school muscle car-esque, but with a new look to it.

01:29:38.000 But it didn't handle like a great handling car.

01:29:42.000 It had a solid rear axle and just overpowered.

01:29:47.000 Besides the Tesla, what's the fastest car you've owned?

01:29:50.000 The Tesla's the fastest by far.

01:29:52.000 By far and above all the other ones.

01:29:54.000 It just buries them all.

01:29:58.000 But I have a 911 GT3 RS from Shark Works.

01:30:02.000 And that's a 2007. It has like 518 horsepower.

01:30:07.000 It sounds like a dragon.

01:30:08.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:30:08.000 That thing's pretty fucking fast. 0.97

01:30:10.000 And the handling on the thing is extraordinary. 0.93

01:30:13.000 Yeah, it's so good.

01:30:15.000 It's so thrilling.

01:30:17.000 You feel everything in that car, and it's so capable.

01:30:21.000 That was a great car.

01:30:23.000 Those are good wheelbase.

01:30:25.000 Like, square, short, everything.

01:30:28.000 Super light.

01:30:28.000 Yeah.

01:30:29.000 And you get used to that ass end, that power coming out of that right behind you. 0.96

01:30:33.000 You know, it's very intoxicating.

01:30:35.000 It's a totally different feel in the handling where the balance is of the car.

01:30:40.000 Isn't that like a...

01:30:41.000 When that thing slides out, isn't it kind of like a narrow window before it's gone?

01:30:47.000 Yeah, it's tricky for sure.

01:30:49.000 You gotta know what you're doing.

01:30:50.000 You know, you can't just stomp on the gas when it's sliding, you know?

01:30:54.000 You're not Chris Harris.

01:30:56.000 You know, just be careful. 1.00

01:30:57.000 Don't do anything stupid. 1.00

01:30:59.000 What's that Cuda feel like pushing it through those same, you got some killer windy roads by you. 0.99

01:31:03.000 What's that Cuda feel like compared to some of those?

01:31:04.000 It handles really, really well.

01:31:06.000 It's big, right?

01:31:09.000 It's a big car, so it's a little different.

01:31:11.000 It's a different kind of experience.

01:31:13.000 But it handles so well, because when you're describing the balance of it with the rear transaxle, that totally makes sense to me, because you feel that while you're driving it.

01:31:22.000 It's like really balanced.

01:31:25.000 You know, and it's just glued to the road, too.

01:31:28.000 It's great.

01:31:29.000 Kids or wife into them at all? 1.00

01:31:30.000 They give a shit. 1.00

01:31:31.000 Nope. 1.00

01:31:31.000 Don't like them at all. 1.00

01:31:32.000 My kids do.

01:31:33.000 Sometimes they think it's fun.

01:31:34.000 But my wife thinks they're just loud and noisy.

01:31:37.000 She thinks they look pretty.

01:31:38.000 They look pretty, but they're just loud and noisy. 1.00

01:31:41.000 Damn. 1.00

01:31:44.000 What about your family? 1.00

01:31:46.000 Do they get sick of them?

01:31:47.000 My son's, my daughter's in college. 0.99

01:31:49.000 She's always been kind of into cool shit. 0.97

01:31:51.000 But my son, he didn't care nothing about anything car related until he was 15. And then now it's, it's all it is. 0.99

01:31:59.000 But again, he's, I mean, you know, we've met him and Conor McGregor's still his idol, you know, and he wants to live the Conor life.

01:32:08.000 He wants to be on the yacht.

01:32:09.000 It's difficult to live the Conor life on a 16-year-old budget.

01:32:15.000 It's difficult to do it on a Conor budget.

01:32:17.000 That guy has to keep making tons of money.

01:32:20.000 That lifestyle is crazy.

01:32:21.000 But he's into it.

01:32:23.000 We've been fixing up a little Audi coupe for him.

01:32:27.000 He's into it.

01:32:28.000 And then their kids are both younger.

01:32:30.000 Both their sons are full blown.

01:32:31.000 My son's a nut with that stuff.

01:32:33.000 He drove with me and your Cuda out to Columbus, Ohio.

01:32:37.000 We were kind of shaking that thing down.

01:32:40.000 At 12 years old, he knows more about that car and just cars in general than just about anybody you know.

01:32:47.000 That's interesting.

01:32:48.000 He's into it.

01:32:49.000 Yeah, well, it's, you know, it's fun.

01:32:51.000 It just speaks to people.

01:32:53.000 Yeah, for him, for being a kid, I mean, that's what's cooler than that.

01:32:56.000 Like, if, you know, you look like kids are playing with Matchbox cars and, like, his dad's building the real ones.

01:33:02.000 Like, full scale.

01:33:04.000 Do you think we're ever going to come to a time in this country where internal combustion engines are outlawed?

01:33:09.000 I don't think so, man.

01:33:10.000 I really don't.

01:33:11.000 I think you're going to see that, like, come full circle.

01:33:14.000 Just in my opinion.

01:33:15.000 I'll...

01:33:17.000 Outlawed or gone away because alcohol was outlawed as once as well.

01:33:22.000 Take California out of the equation, though.

01:33:25.000 But that's what they're doing.

01:33:26.000 It's crazy.

01:33:26.000 You can't buy new internal combustion engines after 2035. And I think this is like 20-something other states fixing to adopt it the same way because you can do it without a vote.

01:33:37.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:33:37.000 They did it without a vote.

01:33:39.000 I don't think it makes sense.

01:33:41.000 I really don't.

01:33:42.000 I don't think there's enough minerals in the ground.

01:33:45.000 Just the mining alone that would have to happen and the reality of what happens in that mining.

01:33:52.000 People need to understand what they're talking about.

01:33:54.000 They're talking about batteries.

01:33:55.000 This idea that batteries just come from ferries and that now all of a sudden you have this zero carbon impact vehicle.

01:34:03.000 That's nonsense.

01:34:05.000 That's complete, total nonsense. 0.92

01:34:07.000 You're ignoring the entire supply chain.

01:34:11.000 What is with people that they won't recognize, that they don't want to recognize that?

01:34:15.000 Some people didn't know about it until I had this guy on my podcast, Siddharth Kara, who wrote a book about it.

01:34:22.000 And he went to the Congo to show these illegal mines, like what they're doing.

01:34:27.000 I mean, it's not illegal.

01:34:28.000 There's no law, right?

01:34:30.000 But they have children working in these mines.

01:34:32.000 They have women working in these mines with babies on their back. 0.98

01:34:35.000 And they're mining toxic cobalt.

01:34:38.000 And this stuff is...

01:34:40.000 I mean, there's no protection.

01:34:41.000 There's no safety. 1.00

01:34:42.000 These people are like chipping this shit out of the ground. 0.99

01:34:45.000 And that's a good percentage of all the cobalt that's involved in electronics and batteries and cell phones and all the things that we need. 0.99

01:34:53.000 And it's not very publicized.

01:34:57.000 This man exposed it and he risked his life to do it.

01:35:01.000 And he wrote a great book about it.

01:35:03.000 And the podcast was...

01:35:05.000 It was insane, listening to his story and how he risked his life to get this footage.

01:35:10.000 There were several times where there was men with guns and he got questioned and he had a bunch of people that were helping him.

01:35:17.000 He got out of there, eventually, with this reality that everybody now is faced with.

01:35:22.000 It's like, this is how they get the stuff that you need to run your cell phone.

01:35:26.000 Stop thinking that you have zero impact.

01:35:30.000 If you're buying this, you're contributing to this.

01:35:33.000 We all are. 0.99

01:35:34.000 And we don't want to keep our fucking heads buried in the ground and pretend it's not happening. 0.99

01:35:39.000 And to say that... 0.98

01:35:41.000 Everything has to be electronic.

01:35:42.000 Slow down.

01:35:43.000 Where is this coming from?

01:35:45.000 Who's making it?

01:35:46.000 What are the conditions like in the places where these people have to put your phone together?

01:35:51.000 What are the conditions like?

01:35:52.000 Do you know?

01:35:55.000 Foxconn has nets around the building because people are jumping off.

01:35:59.000 What?

01:35:59.000 Yeah, where they make iPhones.

01:36:01.000 They put nets around the building because so many people are committing suicide.

01:36:06.000 They run right off the windows.

01:36:07.000 They're working constantly.

01:36:09.000 They work constantly.

01:36:11.000 They sleep there.

01:36:12.000 They had beds underneath their desks or their work areas.

01:36:15.000 Sleep underneath, work, sleep, work.

01:36:17.000 Show the photo of the nets around Fox.

01:36:20.000 It's bananas.

01:36:22.000 Look at that.

01:36:23.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:36:24.000 They're nets all around the building.

01:36:25.000 I hope our employees are listening.

01:36:27.000 It could be worse.

01:36:28.000 You know how wild that is?

01:36:29.000 Like, if you're going to jump off a building, you can't do it here.

01:36:31.000 Get out of here.

01:36:32.000 Or if you do, you better have good aim.

01:36:34.000 Man.

01:36:34.000 You've got to aim for where there's no net.

01:36:37.000 How do you explain that to people, like, when you're walking executives into the building?

01:36:40.000 We've had a huge bird problem.

01:36:42.000 We've had a huge bird problem.

01:36:43.000 You know how crazy that is?

01:36:44.000 You've had so many people commit suicide, and your solution is putting nets around the building. 1.00

01:36:49.000 Those people just go up to the top floor, fuck this. 1.00

01:36:51.000 Bang! 1.00

01:36:52.000 I want it to be over.

01:36:54.000 Just lock them like all the casinos do.

01:36:56.000 Just lock the windows.

01:36:58.000 You gotta get to the roof to do maintenance.

01:36:59.000 There's just gotta be better representation of both sides so that people understand.

01:37:04.000 Well, really, we should be making phones in America.

01:37:07.000 And they should be American-made with American wages where people get health and dental and all the stuff you're supposed to get.

01:37:14.000 And you have a living wage.

01:37:16.000 That's what it's supposed to be.

01:37:17.000 And if your phone costs a little more to do that, And if Apple makes a little less, that's how it's supposed to be.

01:37:22.000 You're not supposed to be using slave labor to do stuff.

01:37:26.000 And, you know, we don't have an ethical choice.

01:37:28.000 It's not like if you want to be a part of today's society, you kind of have to have a smartphone if you're answering emails and doing business.

01:37:35.000 It's way more convenient to do that than not have one.

01:37:38.000 And there's not this very obvious ethical choice.

01:37:42.000 Like, hey, this company only uses high-paid labor.

01:37:45.000 Everybody has insurance.

01:37:47.000 There's none of that.

01:37:48.000 They only work X amount of hours a day.

01:37:49.000 There's none of that.

01:37:50.000 You get these things, and they're all manufactured overseas.

01:37:56.000 Is it 2030 is the year?

01:37:58.000 Is that what California's law is?

01:37:59.000 I think it's 2035. Yeah.

01:38:01.000 If they were to do that and say it was nationwide, right?

01:38:04.000 And no new cars after 2035 can be...

01:38:08.000 But they don't touch...

01:38:09.000 I mean, obviously, you're not going to be able to do anything with what's existing.

01:38:12.000 Any of the ICE motors that are out there that exist.

01:38:14.000 It's going to be like Judge Dredd.

01:38:15.000 Yeah.

01:38:16.000 Imagine what the cost of a 2020 F-150 would be worth then.

01:38:23.000 Would it be more desirable or less desirable? 0.99

01:38:25.000 I mean, I would assume that at least 50-something percent of the population is going to be like, fuck that. 0.98

01:38:32.000 I'm never going that. 0.99

01:38:33.000 I'm going to keep buying my gas motors, right?

01:38:36.000 Well, the thing that always is going to be an issue with cars is charging them.

01:38:42.000 It takes time, right?

01:38:44.000 So you have to sit there.

01:38:45.000 So if you're fully out of juice and you're on a cross-country trip, how long does it take when you go to those supercharger stations to get you up to 100% again?

01:38:55.000 How long is that?

01:38:56.000 Is it a few hours?

01:38:57.000 Yeah.

01:38:57.000 Longer than you want to be sitting there?

01:38:59.000 Yeah, so with rising crime and having places where you know people are going to be stuck and no security.

01:39:08.000 Especially in places like LA, good luck with that.

01:39:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:12.000 My friend Eddie was telling a story the other day about he almost got robbed at a gas station.

01:39:15.000 And he realized these guys were coming towards him and he got out just in time.

01:39:19.000 He's like, you know how you've been in your car so many times that you can just...

01:39:23.000 You know where everything is instantly.

01:39:26.000 You don't have to fumble.

01:39:26.000 He's as if that's what saved me.

01:39:28.000 That I just jumped in my car and I knew how to...

01:39:31.000 And I was just moving already.

01:39:34.000 Crazy.

01:39:35.000 The guy was moving towards him.

01:39:36.000 Dude, that's a little bit like the net scenario, though.

01:39:39.000 Like, what's the problem that we're not solving? 0.96

01:39:42.000 Like, why the fuck are there nets? 0.98

01:39:43.000 Why are you afraid to go sit there and charge your car at the gas station? 0.99

01:39:47.000 Because you're going to get fucking robbed for sitting there for an hour. 0.96

01:39:50.000 Is nobody looking at airline travel and the way planes are made, doing anything away with... 1.00

01:39:59.000 Doing electric motors on that kind of shit. 0.90

01:40:02.000 There's a concept that's currently being developed for a solar-powered plane. 0.99

01:40:06.000 I talked to a guy about it like over a year ago, and they were explaining it.

01:40:12.000 I think they've done a bunch of test flights, and it's going to be able to go a long way.

01:40:18.000 I just don't know.

01:40:20.000 I don't know how that works.

01:40:21.000 I don't know how much range does it have, how safe is it.

01:40:27.000 You know, you don't want to be an early adopter.

01:40:30.000 Not when you're in the sky.

01:40:31.000 Like flying cars.

01:40:32.000 Like, you see flying cars, like, yeah, I'm going to sit that out.

01:40:35.000 Yeah, give it 10 years.

01:40:37.000 Keep an eye on it, you know?

01:40:38.000 How many douchebags are going to fly into power lines? 1.00

01:40:41.000 How many people are going to fly into trees and start forest fires?

01:40:45.000 I think that when they announced that in California, it wasn't like the next day they also had an announcement for people to stop charging their cars because it was like a week later. 1.00

01:40:52.000 What a fucking fail. 0.99

01:40:53.000 Please don't charge! 1.00

01:40:54.000 That's the other thing.

01:40:55.000 It was too hot and it maxed out the grid.

01:40:57.000 If everybody had an electric car, the strain on the grid would be monumental.

01:41:02.000 I don't know if most grids, the way they're set up right now, would be able to handle that.

01:41:06.000 Like, if everybody had an electric car, wouldn't that take, like, substantial upgrades to the grid?

01:41:11.000 Yeah, dude, it's just infrastructure, Joe.

01:41:13.000 We just invest in infrastructure, man.

01:41:16.000 I like how you're saying it.

01:41:17.000 Like, it makes sense.

01:41:18.000 You're so confident.

01:41:20.000 Do you think they're worried about all of that stuff, or they know that it's impossible?

01:41:24.000 That's why you push it out to a...

01:41:26.000 It just looks really good on the ballot.

01:41:28.000 It does look really good on the ballot.

01:41:30.000 That's part of the problem.

01:41:31.000 A lot of people have these knee-jerk reactions to very complex, nuanced problems, like the environment.

01:41:37.000 I had Mike Baker on yesterday, and we talked about this.

01:41:40.000 And one of the things he was saying, the vast majority of the pollution, the carbon emissions in the world, is coming from China and India.

01:41:48.000 That's the vast majority of it.

01:41:49.000 And they're not going to change.

01:41:51.000 They're not going to change what they do.

01:41:52.000 No matter what we do, we're not going to put a dent in what they're doing.

01:41:55.000 And there's a bunch of people that think that the way to get us out of this and the way to mitigate climate change in terms of human impact on it is actually...

01:42:06.000 To build up poor communities and get them on the electrical system, get nuclear power to these places or so or something and like elevate their standard of life.

01:42:17.000 You'll have less pollution.

01:42:19.000 You'll have less – you'll definitely have less issues in terms of like health consequences of the people that live there.

01:42:28.000 In turn, as they become more sustainable, they live a better life, their lifestyle is better, you'll have less pollution.

01:42:41.000 People need to be incentivized.

01:42:44.000 They need to have some sort of...

01:42:46.000 There's places in the world that have no hope and they just burn tires. 0.99

01:42:49.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:42:50.000 They're not thinking about the environment. 0.99

01:42:53.000 They're thinking about, how do I get by?

01:42:55.000 How do I stay alive?

01:42:57.000 Back to your point on making stuff here.

01:42:59.000 I don't know the numbers, but I'm wondering what, if you were to say, in 10 years, we're requiring 90% of every single thing we use to be made in the USA, right?

01:43:10.000 So you cut out all that air freight and all that freight line, all the shipping.

01:43:14.000 The shipping is huge.

01:43:15.000 And everyone wants to talk about providing jobs. 0.99

01:43:17.000 If we take all that shit, what does that do for the carbon footprint if we're not shipping all those freighters and we're building new shit here? 0.98

01:43:25.000 If you Google that, and granted this is just me looking at Google, doing Google research, but look at what a container ship We're good to go. 0.99

01:43:53.000 There's, I mean, that's obviously a long-term project, unfortunately.

01:43:57.000 Manufacturing really kind of got out of the United States when they started shipping and building cars overseas and ruined Detroit.

01:44:05.000 I mean, Detroit just fell apart.

01:44:07.000 That Roger and Me movie, you guys ever see that?

01:44:09.000 Never seen it.

01:44:10.000 Never heard of it.

01:44:11.000 You never heard of it? 0.99

01:44:12.000 It's, um, what the fuck's his name? 0.99

01:44:15.000 Jamie. 0.99

01:44:17.000 Michael Moore.

01:44:18.000 Michael Moore.

01:44:19.000 That guy.

01:44:20.000 It's a great documentary.

01:44:22.000 And it's about Flint, Michigan.

01:44:23.000 It's about right after they closed all the plants down and everybody just had nothing.

01:44:28.000 They had nothing to do.

01:44:29.000 And just like the city collapsed. 0.99

01:44:31.000 And all that happened because they wanted to make shit cheaper. 0.99

01:44:34.000 They wanted to pay people less. 0.99

01:44:36.000 And it's more profitable for them to have...

01:44:41.000 They're manufacturing plants in other countries.

01:44:43.000 Dude, it's nuts.

01:44:44.000 That was the one song for Whitey the other day.

01:44:48.000 You know Whitey Morgan?

01:44:51.000 Yeah, I've heard the name.

01:44:52.000 He was on the podcast and he did a local show and stuff like that.

01:44:56.000 He's from Flint.

01:44:57.000 And his dad and granddad worked in the auto and he has a song.

01:45:00.000 All about it?

01:45:01.000 Yeah, we were talking to him about...

01:45:04.000 Michigan, it came up because, you know, we go to shows in Michigan, and Michigan's got a very, like, southern redneck pocket, right?

01:45:12.000 Very, it's weird because of how north it is, but he talked about all the people from the south moved up there for all these auto jobs and all the wages, right?

01:45:20.000 And it just, it's that area.

01:45:22.000 But he talked about the same thing.

01:45:23.000 When they shut it down, I mean, it just killed that, specifically Flint.

01:45:27.000 That's where he's from.

01:45:29.000 It's a horrible story.

01:45:30.000 And they did that because they wanted to make more money.

01:45:33.000 Imagine knowing that you're going to just destroy thousands of people's lives, like instantly.

01:45:39.000 I'm not like, yeah, I want to make more money.

01:45:41.000 I'm not trying to put you on blast.

01:45:43.000 I really want to know.

01:45:44.000 On a normal...

01:45:45.000 I like how the kids say that these days.

01:45:48.000 Put you on blast.

01:45:50.000 Well, on a purchasing decision, when you're going to buy something, how big, how does that weigh on you knowing that it's made in America?

01:45:56.000 Well, I'd like to buy everything made in America, if it was possible.

01:46:01.000 I would like to buy everything made somewhere where people are paid fairly, right?

01:46:05.000 That's like what should be the normal ethical exchange for everything.

01:46:11.000 If you go to a restaurant, you want to know that everyone's being taken care of and paid fairly.

01:46:15.000 You go to buy a car from you guys.

01:46:19.000 You want to pay you for your work.

01:46:21.000 It's a good exchange.

01:46:24.000 That's what I think I like to think about.

01:46:27.000 And the thing that bums me out is if you're buying something that you know is made by people that are essentially slaves. 0.98

01:46:34.000 I mean, the people working in Fox, what options do they have?

01:46:37.000 Is there an option to only work eight hours a day?

01:46:40.000 No, it's probably not.

01:46:41.000 It's probably insane.

01:46:43.000 They're using young people to do it, too. 0.99

01:46:46.000 It's all fucking sketchy. 0.94

01:46:47.000 Is there any American-made electronics? 0.98

01:46:49.000 There's no American-made phones.

01:46:52.000 No, I don't believe there is.

01:46:53.000 Is there an American-made cell phone that I'm not aware of?

01:46:59.000 We've looked this up before.

01:47:00.000 Other electronics is a better question.

01:47:02.000 We're going to pivot to that.

01:47:03.000 It's going to be the freedom phone. 0.99

01:47:04.000 It's going to suck. 0.99

01:47:08.000 Eagle wings. 0.98

01:47:09.000 It's going to be like an eight-year-old android. 0.99

01:47:12.000 It's going to suck. 0.99

01:47:13.000 It's going to be this big. 0.99

01:47:16.000 It's going to burn your car.

01:47:17.000 Sure, you've got to plug it in, dude.

01:47:19.000 You remember when those Samsung phones were exploding?

01:47:22.000 They're catching fire and lighting people's cars?

01:47:24.000 Can you imagine being in the head of PR for that phone call?

01:47:28.000 Hey, we've got a problem.

01:47:30.000 I remember when they were making people shut them off on planes.

01:47:34.000 You had to shut them off.

01:47:36.000 That's scary.

01:47:36.000 If you have a Samsung device, shut your phone off.

01:47:40.000 I was like, that is discrimination.

01:47:41.000 I've been boarding on a plane, and you see the shame of the people that don't want to admit it.

01:47:48.000 They're like, hey, do you have a Samsung phone?

01:47:50.000 Nobody wants to be...

01:47:51.000 Unfortunately, I've been a Samsung guy.

01:47:54.000 I'm an Android guy.

01:47:55.000 Do they still give you a hard time about it?

01:47:59.000 No.

01:48:00.000 No, they don't blow up anymore.

01:48:01.000 Everybody else does. 0.99

01:48:02.000 Yeah, you fuck it up and make it green. 0.98

01:48:05.000 Why do you want to stick with that platform? 0.98

01:48:08.000 It's interesting.

01:48:09.000 People who are real rebels, they stick with that platform.

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 I like, I mean, I like the Google integration.

01:48:14.000 Everything, Google through everything.

01:48:16.000 But yeah, I guess there is a little bit of the rebel fact. 0.99

01:48:19.000 I probably would have, if I would have gotten a shit for a while. 0.96

01:48:21.000 Honestly, I never, like, thought you were that badass until you brought that up. 0.99

01:48:25.000 That's pretty fucking wicked. 1.00

01:48:26.000 Fuck off. 1.00

01:48:27.000 That's some serious rebel shit right there. 1.00

01:48:30.000 Yeah, green texts! 1.00

01:48:31.000 All my fucking texts come through green. 1.00

01:48:33.000 Fuck your blue text message. 1.00

01:48:35.000 The thing is it doesn't come through green on his phone. 1.00

01:48:37.000 I don't like having the whole everything, like Apple, iPhone, iCloud, all the stuff, like you have to have so many, everything's linked together. 0.99

01:48:46.000 It's just a fucking phone. 0.94

01:48:47.000 And if I do a Gmail, you know, it automatically, it's simple. 1.00

01:48:50.000 I'm probably simple-minded.

01:48:52.000 That's why I like it.

01:48:53.000 No, you just like it.

01:48:55.000 It's okay.

01:48:56.000 It's two choices.

01:48:57.000 The good one and the Android.

01:49:00.000 Are the videos tiny on your phone when you look at them too? 1.00

01:49:03.000 Yeah, they fucking suck. 0.99

01:49:04.000 But my videos are great. 1.00

01:49:06.000 But why is that? 0.99

01:49:07.000 That's the dumbest thing. 0.98

01:49:09.000 But the thing is, Apple's very smart about that. 0.99

01:49:11.000 They're very smart.

01:49:12.000 With iMessage.

01:49:13.000 Because if they just allowed people to send text messages with the same...

01:49:16.000 You know, thing with iMessage where you get full-length video, like they're full-resolution, full-resolution photographs, but nope. 1.00

01:49:24.000 They compress the fuck out of that shit. 1.00

01:49:26.000 Like second-class citizens. 1.00

01:49:28.000 But if you send one to your friends with another Android phone, does it come out normal?

01:49:32.000 Yeah, it's full blast.

01:49:33.000 You don't know anybody else that has an Android phone.

01:49:35.000 Yeah, you don't even know. 1.00

01:49:36.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

01:49:37.000 Totally guessing. 1.00

01:49:37.000 I looked at his face. 1.00

01:49:38.000 I'm like, I feel like he's lying.

01:49:41.000 You can go through the Google Share thing and it's full.

01:49:47.000 You know what?

01:49:48.000 Google Share.

01:49:50.000 Remember when they tried that Google Plus?

01:49:52.000 Google Plus, we don't need other social media.

01:49:55.000 That didn't work.

01:49:56.000 That's what's fascinating about social media.

01:49:58.000 People just find YouTube, for example.

01:50:01.000 You don't have a whole lot of other choices.

01:50:03.000 No, you don't.

01:50:04.000 They've tried, but it doesn't stick.

01:50:07.000 They just nailed it.

01:50:08.000 They figured it out, and they dominate.

01:50:10.000 But it's like so simple in a way.

01:50:12.000 It's just a place where you can upload videos, right?

01:50:15.000 But they've done it so much better than everybody else.

01:50:18.000 It's weird where, like, trying to create a new YouTube, like, ugh, good luck.

01:50:23.000 Good luck getting people...

01:50:24.000 They're so addicted to just looking on YouTube every day.

01:50:27.000 There's so much to look at.

01:50:30.000 What's the Threads deal?

01:50:33.000 It's like a version of Twitter that Facebook built.

01:50:40.000 It looks exactly like Twitter.

01:50:41.000 I think they're even getting sued.

01:50:44.000 Is Elon suing them?

01:50:45.000 Is that real?

01:50:47.000 I think I read they hired a person that worked at Twitter and they copied stuff directly.

01:50:54.000 That's what the lawsuit I think is about.

01:50:56.000 Well, that's what happens when you fire everybody.

01:50:58.000 That was an episode.

01:51:00.000 They go to work for your competitor and they know things.

01:51:02.000 I think that was in Silicon Valley, that HBO show. 1.00

01:51:05.000 It's the same shit. 1.00

01:51:06.000 Here it is. 0.99

01:51:07.000 Thread's user count falls to new lows, highlighting retention challenges.

01:51:11.000 Oh, no.

01:51:12.000 How many people are on it now?

01:51:14.000 Oh, this was even two weeks ago.

01:51:17.000 They're down 82%?

01:51:19.000 Whoa.

01:51:20.000 That's pretty typical for a new app, though.

01:51:22.000 It's hard to retain people.

01:51:23.000 Yeah, the thing is, people are so addicted to their TikTok.

01:51:27.000 They go from their TikTok to their Twitter.

01:51:30.000 It's very difficult to get people to change platforms.

01:51:34.000 You've got to get everybody to change.

01:51:36.000 I've stayed off the TikTok deal.

01:51:39.000 Me too.

01:51:40.000 Maybe it's a little too youthful for me. 1.00

01:51:42.000 Dude, your dancing is fucking killer, though. 0.99

01:51:45.000 I don't watch those videos. 1.00

01:51:46.000 I just post them.

01:51:47.000 It's very addictive, I'll tell you that.

01:51:49.000 I watch people just scrolling through their TikTok all day long.

01:51:53.000 It's so addictive.

01:51:54.000 You just get constant stimulation, something, anything, dancing, motorcycle crash, this, that.

01:52:00.000 My daughter, she's in college, and she's in the sorority stuff, and that's where they live.

01:52:06.000 I mean, everything is TikTok-based.

01:52:08.000 It's all about TikTok.

01:52:10.000 And China's tracking everything they do.

01:52:14.000 Everything.

01:52:15.000 All your keystrokes.

01:52:16.000 What are they doing with that?

01:52:17.000 Who knows?

01:52:18.000 I mean, that constantly comes up, like it's a concern, but what are they doing with it?

01:52:21.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:52:23.000 As technology becomes more and more powerful, what you can do with data changes.

01:52:29.000 And if you have a massive amount of data about people's behavior, their patterns, what they're interested in, what they gravitate towards, what retains them, what doesn't retain them, and then all the stuff you're not supposed to have, like their email addresses, 0.95

01:52:46.000 their fucking passwords, like... 0.95

01:52:48.000 They're keystrokes. 1.00

01:52:49.000 It can actually monitor the keystrokes that you have.

01:52:52.000 So it could be sending that data.

01:52:54.000 So it could be transcribing text messages, emails, like whatever you've got, not just on that, but also on other devices that are connected to the network.

01:53:03.000 So if you have a network and you have devices that are connected to the network and that...

01:53:07.000 LinkedIn and all that?

01:53:08.000 Yeah.

01:53:08.000 I believe it has access to computers that don't even have TikTok on them.

01:53:15.000 Really?

01:53:15.000 Yes.

01:53:16.000 Yeah, I think that's part of the user agreement.

01:53:19.000 Didn't we read all this?

01:53:21.000 See, pull it up because it's egregious.

01:53:24.000 When you read it, you're like, what?

01:53:27.000 It's so invasive. 0.99

01:53:28.000 Where do they store all the dick pics? 0.98

01:53:30.000 Imagine the servers. 0.97

01:53:32.000 Yeah, there's like a certain cloud.

01:53:34.000 I wonder if they categorize it.

01:53:35.000 Dick-heavy cloud. 0.99

01:53:37.000 It's one of them big storm clouds filled with dicks. 0.99

01:53:40.000 This is what their terms of service, right? 0.97

01:53:42.000 Yeah.

01:53:44.000 So what I wanted to read is the one part that we...

01:53:47.000 I know we read it on the podcast once.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, I don't know where you read it from.

01:53:53.000 Yeah, see if you can get us...

01:53:54.000 Yeah, I did read it off my phone.

01:53:57.000 I'll pull it up.

01:53:58.000 Hold on.

01:53:58.000 I know I got it in my notes.

01:54:00.000 But it's, you know, it's like data is very, very valuable.

01:54:06.000 Data is all that Facebook has.

01:54:08.000 It's all that Google has.

01:54:09.000 I mean, they have infrastructure and, you know, staff and all that stuff, but, like, the big money is in the data.

01:54:15.000 And no one even knew that that was a commodity.

01:54:17.000 Everybody just gave up their data, not ever thinking it was going to be insanely valuable for targeting people, for advertising.

01:54:25.000 Is that the biggest concern is what they can do from a financial standpoint versus like a malicious attack with that data?

01:54:33.000 I mean the the real thing is like we don't know what what it like I read something about DNA you know like one of those ancestry things where they got bought out and someone paid for For all the DNA data.

01:54:53.000 That's an interesting one. 0.96

01:54:54.000 That's a little fucked up. 0.99

01:54:56.000 See if that's real. 0.99

01:54:57.000 Because it might have been one of them things where I was scrolling through Instagram and it was like some wacky person screaming about something.

01:55:04.000 You always got to double check these.

01:55:06.000 See if that's real.

01:55:09.000 But I don't know what, I mean, as technology increases, you have to think in terms of possibilities.

01:55:16.000 Like, maybe that data is going to be even more valuable and more personal.

01:55:21.000 Like, you don't, you know, we don't know, like, what we're giving up.

01:55:25.000 Blackstone to acquire Ancestry for $4.7 billion.

01:55:30.000 Okay, but do they have access to the DNA database of all the people that's sent into Ancestry?

01:55:39.000 What do they have?

01:55:40.000 Do they buy the company, or did they acquire the database as well?

01:55:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:55:48.000 For $4.7 billion, I'd certainly think that they got all the assets and data.

01:55:53.000 But that's the thing.

01:55:54.000 Do they think of other people's personal DNA as an asset?

01:55:57.000 Is it listed as an asset?

01:55:58.000 Or is it just the business that does DNA testing that they bought?

01:56:02.000 Because it's a very popular business.

01:56:05.000 If I'm writing that check, I'm going to want all that.

01:56:08.000 Right, but I mean, I'm wondering if you can sell that.

01:56:11.000 Like, when people give up, when they send it in, right, when they get their DNA test done, are you giving up your rights to that information? 0.99

01:56:20.000 I wonder if you sign any waiver, when you scroll all the way bottom in terms and conditions, you're just like, yeah, fuck it. 0.98

01:56:25.000 You're not reading the 48 pages? 0.99

01:56:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:56:27.000 You're like, hey, we're going to sell one day, and all that shit goes with it. 0.99

01:56:30.000 That's the scariest conversation about bioweapons, that they can make a bioweapon specifically targeted for you. 0.99

01:56:38.000 Wow.

01:56:39.000 If they knew your DNA. You talk about the TikTok and China having all that shit. 1.00

01:56:46.000 You have something like a January 6th that happens, right? 0.98

01:56:50.000 And all the red tape to get all of the... 1.00

01:56:56.000 Geo data from Facebook and everybody else is like, fuck you, we're not giving you shit. 1.00

01:57:01.000 You think they can get anything, if there's any backdoor deals like, hey, we need the U.S. government working with China to get any of that shit, if something were to happen like that? 1.00

01:57:11.000 They have that kind of relationship to get it in backdoor channels? 0.94

01:57:15.000 Like the U.S. would get the information from China?

01:57:18.000 Yeah.

01:57:19.000 I don't know if China would have to admit they're taking it.

01:57:23.000 And I think there's been, like, real dispute as to, like, with TikTok in particular, like, where the data goes.

01:57:28.000 I can't get this pop-up to stop.

01:57:30.000 What is it saying?

01:57:33.000 China is the world's biggest face recognition dealer.

01:57:37.000 And then it says in the sub-headline that the U.S. is the second largest exporter.

01:57:42.000 Exporter.

01:57:43.000 There's a video I'm trying to find of what's happening.

01:57:47.000 The video was made as though this is what's happening in China right now, showing the surveillance.

01:57:51.000 It's taking facial recognition and showing you driving down the freeway in cars and tagging the license plates and all that stuff.

01:57:59.000 How or why that's happening is a big question.

01:58:01.000 Well, they just want people to know that they're being tracked everywhere you go.

01:58:05.000 Then you'll self-censor.

01:58:06.000 Then you'll stay in line.

01:58:08.000 You won't do anything.

01:58:10.000 And in China, what's really scary is the places that have everything connected to a social credit score.

01:58:16.000 So you have a centralized digital currency, and then you have a social credit score.

01:58:19.000 And if your social credit score is too low, you can't do things.

01:58:22.000 You can't buy things.

01:58:23.000 You can't buy a car.

01:58:25.000 How does your social credit score go down?

01:58:26.000 You've got to be a good boy.

01:58:27.000 Your Google search history.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, whatever it is. 1.00

01:58:30.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:58:31.000 It's literally like your tweets. 1.00

01:58:33.000 What do you do wrong?

01:58:36.000 What do you do right?

01:58:37.000 Did you pay your taxes on time?

01:58:39.000 Like, there's a...

01:58:40.000 It's sketchy stuff, man, because you're not going to be a human anymore.

01:58:45.000 You're going to be a human that's deeply influenced by the fact that you know you're constantly under surveillance.

01:58:51.000 And that gives in to tyranny.

01:58:54.000 And people have control over your life that way.

01:58:56.000 And the people that have access to the switch to decide whether or not... 0.94

01:59:01.000 You get money, whether or not you can fucking buy a plane ticket, whether or not you could buy certain groceries. 0.91

01:59:07.000 They just shut you off. 0.95

01:59:09.000 I wonder if you're of means, can you buy credits for that social credit score?

01:59:14.000 That's a good question.

01:59:15.000 I'm sure that somebody's monetized.

01:59:17.000 Make a million dollar donation and get another 50 points on your social credit score.

01:59:21.000 Jesus Christ.

01:59:22.000 It's a bribe to be able to buy a plane ticket.

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:25.000 That's our future if we don't wise up.

01:59:27.000 So many people that just want...

01:59:30.000 They want the government to have that kind of control because they think it will silence the people that they oppose.

01:59:35.000 They don't realize it's going to come for you too.

01:59:37.000 There's a real strong reason why the Founding Fathers set this place up the way they did because they knew that people get in control of things.

01:59:46.000 They have too much power and then – so they made it like real complicated.

01:59:51.000 With multiple layers of justice. 0.96

01:59:53.000 And that's just to stave off this fucking normal desire that people have to absolutely control the people that are under them. 0.92

02:00:02.000 That's why kings existed. 0.96

02:00:04.000 That's why monarchs and that's why rule emperors. 1.00

02:00:07.000 They've always done that forever.

02:00:10.000 And it's just a natural human instinct for one person to want to control everything or one group to control everything and have everybody be their subjects. 0.99

02:00:19.000 I'm glad we can just focus on building fucking cars. 0.98

02:00:23.000 I'm going to just keep kicking it old school. 0.99

02:00:26.000 You know, we're fucking manufacturing things out of steel in America. 0.98

02:00:30.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:00:30.000 And I don't have to worry about any of this because I'm not an important enough person that anybody's going to utilize any of that stuff against me. 0.96

02:00:35.000 I'm just going to...

02:00:36.000 It is weird that we're a country that requires so much of our stuff to be brought in.

02:00:41.000 Yeah, on our end, you saw such a negative change when you started bringing in steel from India, steel from China. 0.91

02:00:50.000 I mean, you'd get some stuff that was just crap, right?

02:00:53.000 We're manufacturing stuff, and you're making a control arm for a car, and you get a load of steel, and you look at this stuff, and we just reject it.

02:01:01.000 I mean, you're only using USA steel. 0.99

02:01:03.000 Because the shit would just tear, rip, break. 1.00

02:01:06.000 Really? 1.00

02:01:06.000 Just junk. 1.00

02:01:07.000 Couldn't bend it. 0.96

02:01:08.000 It would snap and crack.

02:01:09.000 I never even thought of that before.

02:01:10.000 So there's different standards in how people manufacture steel.

02:01:15.000 Oh, wow.

02:01:16.000 Steel.

02:01:17.000 Someone said that to me about the Twin Towers.

02:01:22.000 This friend of mine from New York, he goes, you know what nobody talks about when they talk about the Twin Towers?

02:01:27.000 I go, what?

02:01:28.000 He goes, construction methods. 0.94

02:01:30.000 He's like, who fucking knows if they use the right steel? 1.00

02:01:34.000 Who knows where they got that shit from? 0.99

02:01:35.000 Who knows if it's supposed to be two inches thick and they made it an inch and a half? 1.00

02:01:40.000 Cutting corners in construction and finagling shit and if they got their steel from a questionable source? 0.98

02:01:49.000 I mean, I don't know. 0.99

02:01:50.000 Maybe it's all American steel.

02:01:51.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

02:01:51.000 But his take on it was like, bro.

02:01:55.000 Like, this is...

02:01:55.000 Like, people are like, towers aren't supposed to fall that way.

02:01:58.000 Like, they're not supposed to be built that way either, probably.

02:02:01.000 That was his take on it.

02:02:03.000 Not mine.

02:02:03.000 His take on it.

02:02:04.000 And I was like, huh.

02:02:05.000 I never thought of that before. 0.99

02:02:06.000 Because I know that there are certain construction companies that do a fucking terrible job. 0.97

02:02:14.000 And people find out about it way too late. 0.98

02:02:18.000 There's buildings that are just massive buildings that they have to fucking demolish. 0.94

02:02:21.000 Because they were just built wrong. 0.98

02:02:23.000 Also don't know how good, no matter how good of an engineer you are, if you could have planned for two fucking planes to fly into it. 0.99

02:02:28.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:02:29.000 Exactly.

02:02:30.000 And then the fires and the heat that comes along with that.

02:02:32.000 I don't know if there's a simulation you could run on your...

02:02:36.000 FBA analysis on that?

02:02:37.000 Dude, was that...

02:02:38.000 How old were you when that happened?

02:02:40.000 That was...

02:02:42.000 I was...

02:02:43.000 I was 19. No, you weren't.

02:02:46.000 It was 2001?

02:02:48.000 I had to be 19. That was one of those moments where I think no one...

02:02:54.000 There's like a few moments in your life where you're like, I remember exactly where I was when I heard that.

02:02:58.000 I remember exactly where I was standing when I was watching the television.

02:03:02.000 Yep.

02:03:03.000 I got a call.

02:03:04.000 Over and over and over again on CNN. Boom.

02:03:06.000 Boom.

02:03:08.000 I remember my mom talking about it like it was when she remembers as a kid when Kennedy got assassinated.

02:03:13.000 The same thing.

02:03:14.000 It was like that same kind of focused around the TV or whatever. 0.98

02:03:18.000 Yeah, I remember I was headed to work and got that phone call like, Holy shit. 0.98

02:03:23.000 You know what's wild, though? 0.90

02:03:25.000 Those weeks after 9-11, people were so nice.

02:03:28.000 It was so different.

02:03:30.000 Remember all the sporting events?

02:03:31.000 Yeah.

02:03:31.000 It was just like...

02:03:33.000 Just the pride in the country.

02:03:34.000 You'd be walking down the road just high-fiving folks.

02:03:37.000 Like, yes.

02:03:38.000 I went to see the UFC in Vegas right after September 11th.

02:03:43.000 This was before I was working for the UFC. I was in the audience, and Tito Ortiz was fighting, and he came out with an American flag.

02:03:52.000 And the whole place went ballistic.

02:03:55.000 It was just...

02:03:55.000 And I was with my friend Eddie and we were like, whoa, this is wild.

02:04:03.000 Like it just felt so different.

02:04:05.000 It felt so different.

02:04:07.000 It's like America felt united.

02:04:10.000 You drive down the street, everybody had an American flag on their car.

02:04:13.000 Those little American flag things that stick to your window.

02:04:17.000 It happens that way.

02:04:18.000 I mean, it happens that way in your family.

02:04:20.000 It happens that way in business.

02:04:21.000 It happens that way in any relationship. 0.99

02:04:22.000 You've got to have, unfortunately, that bad fucking thing. 0.99

02:04:26.000 To remind you of the good. 0.99

02:04:27.000 To remind you of the good. 0.99

02:04:28.000 And everybody comes together and it's like, all right, we can fight amongst each other about all kinds of fucking things. 0.99

02:04:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:34.000 But when something bad like that happens, you realize... 0.98

02:04:37.000 It's so easy for people to lose perspective, and that's why the better things get, the more people complain.

02:04:45.000 It's so easy for people to lose perspective and not just appreciate things.

02:04:51.000 Human beings, we always want more.

02:04:55.000 And then when something goes away, like I said about when you get sick, you realize like, oh, this is what's important.

02:05:01.000 What's important is being healthy.

02:05:03.000 It's more important than anything.

02:05:05.000 If you were a rich person and someone said, okay, but you have to stay sick, like you have a cold, a bad cold for the rest of your life, but you get to stay rich, or you can just be poor again.

02:05:15.000 You have to take being poor. 1.00

02:05:17.000 You can't be, you'd have to be so fucking stupid. 1.00

02:05:30.000 Why didn't the country come together during COVID like they did after 9-11? 1.00

02:05:34.000 Well, because the country was divided.

02:05:36.000 Everybody was literally divided.

02:05:38.000 Everyone was isolated.

02:05:39.000 That's a very weird like psychological experiment to run on people.

02:05:43.000 I'm not saying they did it on purpose, but if you wanted to do a psychological experiment on people, The best way to do it is to isolate them.

02:05:49.000 Keep them from working.

02:05:51.000 Isolate them.

02:05:53.000 You got people already that are filled with anxiety.

02:05:56.000 And then all of a sudden, this comes along.

02:05:58.000 For a lot of people, it was psychological overload.

02:06:02.000 And they were offered up one solution.

02:06:06.000 This is this one solution that's going to get us out of this.

02:06:08.000 You got to get vaccinated.

02:06:09.000 And they were telling everyone has to do it.

02:06:12.000 You gotta do it!

02:06:13.000 I'm doing it!

02:06:14.000 We're all doing it!

02:06:15.000 And no one really knew what the long-term effects were.

02:06:19.000 No one really knew how effective it was. 0.99

02:06:21.000 No one really took into account that these pharmaceutical drug companies have always done shady shit. 0.97

02:06:27.000 They have the most criminal fines. 0.99

02:06:29.000 They're always getting busted.

02:06:31.000 25% of their drugs get pulled after they get approved.

02:06:34.000 It's just a wild-ass business.

02:06:37.000 And if you ever watch, like, Dope Sick or if you read anything about the Sackler family and the opioids, like, these people, like, they make great drugs with great reasons.

02:06:47.000 They do wonderful things for people's health.

02:06:49.000 There's a lot of great drugs that really help people.

02:06:51.000 And then there's a machine that just wants to make money.

02:06:54.000 And that machine is in cahoots with the media, and that machine was in cahoots with all the people that were promoting it, and the health agencies, and every doctor had to fall in line, and if they didn't, if they tried to prescribe other things, they'd risk losing their job.

02:07:11.000 And so that's why people didn't get brought together, because they were fucking terrified, and all the conditions were there to make people more divided.

02:07:21.000 More divided and more scared. 0.93

02:07:22.000 And some people still haven't recovered.

02:07:24.000 I still see people with masks on to this day.

02:07:27.000 Outside, walking around with masks on.

02:07:29.000 Or driving in a car by themselves, usually.

02:07:31.000 All the time. 0.98

02:07:32.000 Yeah, just people that were already probably, like, very anxious and very fucked up. 0.91

02:07:37.000 I like the guy you saw, what, three or four months ago. 0.87

02:07:40.000 It's a stretched Hayabusa motorcycle, right?

02:07:44.000 Big-ass wheel on the back.

02:07:45.000 Guy's got no helmet, but he's got a COVID mask on.

02:07:50.000 Guarantee you, buddy, it's not the COVID that's going to kill you. 0.94

02:07:52.000 Well, maybe just want bugs in his mouth. 0.92

02:07:55.000 I'll respect it if he takes it off.

02:07:57.000 Because I would imagine if you don't even have a helmet on, you're going to get some bugs in your face. 0.93

02:08:02.000 Yeah, but it's just like the standard paper shitty mask. 0.82

02:08:06.000 It's like you're... 0.87

02:08:07.000 It's like a cat when they hide under a table, but you still see their tail.

02:08:11.000 It's like, I see you.

02:08:12.000 It's like, that doesn't work. 1.00

02:08:15.000 Like, it's like you're playing a stupid trick. 0.99

02:08:17.000 Yeah, but a lot of it, I think, has gotten to be where it's sending a message. 1.00

02:08:20.000 Yeah.

02:08:21.000 They want everybody to know.

02:08:22.000 100%.

02:08:22.000 Oh yeah, they're doing the right thing.

02:08:24.000 I still wear a mask.

02:08:25.000 I see people on Twitter, like someone will declare, you know, I still mask up everywhere I go.

02:08:30.000 I double mask in public.

02:08:32.000 And then underneath it, people are like, yeah, me too, I do too.

02:08:35.000 I was just like shut-ins and insane people that don't want to let it go.

02:08:39.000 And they'll probably mask up three, four, five years from now too.

02:08:42.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:08:44.000 But that's what it is.

02:08:46.000 It cracked some people.

02:08:49.000 And those circumstances that it happened under where people were divided because they were literally isolated at home, that just causes so much anxiety.

02:08:57.000 And then you can't work.

02:08:58.000 And then the bills are piling up.

02:08:59.000 You don't know if you're going to lose your house and your business is shut down.

02:09:02.000 Yeah, we got shut down.

02:09:04.000 We got shut down for like, how long?

02:09:06.000 Six weeks, seven weeks?

02:09:08.000 California was a long time.

02:09:11.000 That was actually the start of the Cuda.

02:09:12.000 That was.

02:09:14.000 We were shut down for six weeks, and him and John came in and cut the floor out of your car, built the chassis, built the floors.

02:09:22.000 Yeah, I watched the Autotopia LA video that you guys did.

02:09:26.000 It was great.

02:09:26.000 Yeah, dude, Sean does a kick-ass job on those, man.

02:09:29.000 Yeah, we were talking about him last night.

02:09:31.000 Like, that guy so obviously loves cars.

02:09:33.000 Yeah.

02:09:34.000 So it's infectious.

02:09:35.000 It is.

02:09:36.000 You can't fake that.

02:09:37.000 Yep.

02:09:37.000 You know, and that's why his channel's popular.

02:09:40.000 It's like, you can't fake genuine, like, appreciation.

02:09:45.000 Yeah, I appreciate it.

02:09:46.000 He's like a likable dude.

02:09:47.000 Yeah.

02:09:48.000 You like watching the stuff.

02:09:49.000 He does a good job with videos, too.

02:09:51.000 He just lets the car speak for themselves.

02:09:52.000 He asks the right questions. 0.99

02:09:53.000 He does fucking good. 0.99

02:09:54.000 Yeah, and when he drives them, you can clearly see that he's having a great fucking time. 0.99

02:09:59.000 Yeah, we had some... 0.97

02:10:00.000 Dude, that little video he did on the CUDA was cool because that was actually... 0.99

02:10:04.000 We had some legitimate pissed off fucking neighbor. 0.99

02:10:08.000 That was really cool. 1.00

02:10:09.000 That made for a great video. 0.62

02:10:11.000 I was in the car.

02:10:12.000 I was screaming. 1.00

02:10:12.000 That dude was fucking pissed. 1.00

02:10:13.000 I was not fucking happy. 0.99

02:10:14.000 What was he mad about? 0.98

02:10:15.000 We're on some, like, where our shop's at, like, just past the shop.

02:10:19.000 It's, like, almost like the country, right?

02:10:21.000 You kind of get on these country roads.

02:10:22.000 And this dude just got so pissed because they were standing on the side of the road filming, but it was in his, it was his property.

02:10:29.000 Oh.

02:10:29.000 And he was mumbling something about, I'm going to get my gun or put my gun away.

02:10:35.000 Well, the one... 1.00

02:10:35.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:10:36.000 This is a public damn road. 1.00

02:10:38.000 They had stopped and talked to the guy and the guy said, the neighbor, he said, you can park right there in that pull around. 0.99

02:10:44.000 So they parked in that pull around because the neighbor gave him permission.

02:10:47.000 Apparently, the neighbor that actually owned the property says that's not the neighbor's driveway to say it's okay.

02:10:54.000 And he just, instead of being like, hey, dude, like, what's going on?

02:10:57.000 He just came out hot. 0.99

02:10:59.000 I bet the two neighbors are just fucking with each other. 0.99

02:11:02.000 It's been an ongoing feud, so he's like, I'm going to get him. 1.00

02:11:04.000 Go park over in his yard.

02:11:04.000 In his defense, though, imagine if you're just trying to enjoy a calm, peaceful day at home.

02:11:10.000 And you hear... 0.99

02:11:15.000 You're doing these fucking lead foot takes down that road. 0.99

02:11:21.000 There's only, what, two or three, right? 0.99

02:11:23.000 Yeah, it was two or three.

02:11:24.000 They're loud. 0.99

02:11:25.000 Who the fuck wouldn't like that? 0.99

02:11:27.000 That guy. 1.00

02:11:28.000 That guy.

02:11:28.000 Yeah, that was the one guy.

02:11:29.000 We know there's at least one.

02:11:31.000 Yeah, he's at home watching old Bonanza episodes.

02:11:36.000 Wearing his mask.

02:11:39.000 Yeah, some people are weird, man.

02:11:40.000 They don't like loud noises.

02:11:43.000 I get it, though.

02:11:44.000 If you're in a country, quiet setting, it's a loud-ass car.

02:11:49.000 Yeah, it is...

02:11:50.000 Do you like seeing that?

02:11:51.000 Do you like seeing the videos of that car before you get to see it in person?

02:11:54.000 Or would you rather have it like a surprise?

02:11:56.000 No, I don't mind at all.

02:11:57.000 It's great to see the videos.

02:11:58.000 It makes me more excited to see it when I get it.

02:12:01.000 But no, the videos are awesome.

02:12:03.000 You know?

02:12:04.000 And the one that Sean did was great.

02:12:06.000 Sean did one of my 69 Nova too.

02:12:08.000 The one that Steve Strobe built me.

02:12:09.000 That one's awesome too.

02:12:11.000 Yeah, he's great. 0.99

02:12:13.000 Does awesome shit. 0.99

02:12:14.000 I'm just so glad that that's one of those things that came out of social media that's interesting. 0.99

02:12:19.000 It's like an individual content creator that is just like probably wouldn't get a job doing that on a television show.

02:12:26.000 But his show is super successful just because it's genuine, just because he really loves cars and he's a real likable guy and he's doing this thing.

02:12:33.000 It's like he doesn't look like your classic guy that is hosting a car show with coiffed hair on the Discovery Channel.

02:12:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:12:42.000 Yeah, not a cheesy strip club announcer voice.

02:12:45.000 Some actor who's talking to you about a 69 Camaro.

02:12:48.000 You know, it's like he's not that.

02:12:50.000 He's just a regular human being.

02:12:52.000 It's relatable. 1.00

02:12:53.000 You've done a lot of shit with TV. Why do you think that TV executives don't realize, especially car-related shit, to get somebody that's legit and... 0.99

02:13:01.000 Well, because they want to control everything, right? 0.96

02:13:04.000 So they want to decide what you say.

02:13:05.000 They want to tell you where to stand.

02:13:07.000 They want to set the scene.

02:13:08.000 They have, like, all these things in their mind that they want the show to be in order for it to be successful.

02:13:15.000 In their defense, they think they have a model in their mind of what a successful show looks like.

02:13:20.000 But what they...

02:13:22.000 The problem also is they don't have a lot of time to make something successful.

02:13:26.000 So if you're doing something like Autotopia, what do you need?

02:13:29.000 You need a few cameras.

02:13:30.000 You don't need a lot.

02:13:31.000 You need to just upload it.

02:13:32.000 It's not that much, right?

02:13:34.000 If you're doing a television show, you have union wages, you have trucks, you have grips, you have all these fucking people that are moving things around and carrying things and lighting.

02:13:43.000 And then you have the executives, you have the people that are at the studio.

02:13:46.000 You've got 30, 40, 50 people that are involved in every project and millions of dollars in the budget.

02:13:52.000 So if it's not successful right away, it's going to lose money.

02:13:56.000 And then they just bail on it.

02:13:57.000 So you have like a few episodes to catch fire, and if it doesn't work, you're gone.

02:14:02.000 And then the new one comes in.

02:14:03.000 And then they invest a sizable amount of money putting together some new thing.

02:14:08.000 And by doing that, sometimes you make good shows when you get a bunch of great people with a good vision, but a lot of times you get too many things that don't work with each other that well, and whoever the person is that you wanted to host the show never really gets to be themselves.

02:14:24.000 So they never really get to, like, people don't connect with them.

02:14:28.000 They don't feel it.

02:14:30.000 It's just fake.

02:14:32.000 And it doesn't feel that good.

02:14:33.000 So you don't like it.

02:14:34.000 So nobody watches it.

02:14:35.000 Whereas you can do a show like...

02:14:37.000 Look at Jay Leno's Garage is a perfect example.

02:14:39.000 Jay Leno was the host of The Tonight Show.

02:14:41.000 It's like, yeah, he did a great job.

02:14:43.000 But it was not that thrilling.

02:14:46.000 It was just The Tonight Show.

02:14:47.000 It was just this thing that was mediocre, mildly entertaining.

02:14:51.000 But when you see Jay Leno hosting Jay Leno's Garage, he's great at it.

02:14:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:57.000 He fucking loves cars. 0.99

02:14:59.000 He's so in his element. 0.99

02:15:00.000 It's so normal and natural.

02:15:02.000 That guy loves cars. 0.99

02:15:04.000 When he's talking about whatever it is, when he's driving around the car asking questions, that guy fucking loves it. 0.95

02:15:10.000 And so the people that weren't into Jay Leno from the Tonight Show days, because it was clean, family, corporate television, they love him now. 0.96

02:15:18.000 They're like, oh, he's a car guy.

02:15:20.000 Yeah, you get the uncensored Jay Leno.

02:15:21.000 The real Jay Leno.

02:15:22.000 That's the real Jay Leno.

02:15:23.000 And that's what you get with, like, YouTube and things like that now.

02:15:26.000 And what you guys are doing on your podcast, too.

02:15:29.000 It's the same kind—you're just being yourself.

02:15:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:15:31.000 You know, and talking about cool shit. 0.99

02:15:34.000 Yeah, and just talking about cars and whiskey and other— Dumb shit. 1.00

02:15:37.000 Dumb shit. 1.00

02:15:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:15:38.000 Guy shit. 1.00

02:15:39.000 Right. 1.00

02:15:40.000 But people love, like, tuning in to stuff like that.

02:15:43.000 They love knowing there's only a few people working on this.

02:15:47.000 This is not some massive project that involves corporations.

02:15:51.000 This is coming straight from a bunch of people.

02:15:55.000 And that's the thing that they can't duplicate.

02:15:58.000 That's why news shows like CNN, they just feel so fake.

02:16:03.000 Everything feels fake.

02:16:04.000 Everyone's talking fake.

02:16:06.000 Cut to commercial every five minutes.

02:16:09.000 It's like, what is this? 0.91

02:16:10.000 It's like a shitty format. 0.58

02:16:11.000 You think they realize that?

02:16:12.000 And if so, what's their pivot?

02:16:14.000 They're trapped!

02:16:15.000 It's working.

02:16:16.000 They're trapped!

02:16:17.000 They're making money, but their viewership is as low as it's ever been.

02:16:23.000 It's really low.

02:16:24.000 Like, way down from the Trump era.

02:16:26.000 Well, ads have to be down, too.

02:16:28.000 I mean, aren't being major corporations can't get a bigger ROI from going to more YouTube channels or podcasts or anything like that?

02:16:35.000 Yeah, but there's also this interesting relationship between advertisement and influence.

02:16:43.000 Like, if a primary source of your ad revenue is a certain company, perhaps you won't report about things that company does that are bad.

02:16:53.000 As long as they keep advertising.

02:16:54.000 You think that really happens?

02:16:55.000 I think it can happen.

02:16:56.000 Hypothetical.

02:16:57.000 I think that's part of the relationship they have.

02:17:01.000 It's not as simple as, like, this is the most profitable place to advertise.

02:17:04.000 It's also this is a place that if we advertise, we continue this relationship.

02:17:09.000 And this relationship clearly is in some way influenced by the money that it gets from these corporations.

02:17:16.000 It's not going to openly criticize these corporations that are funding a giant chunk of their ad revenue. 1.00

02:17:24.000 So they're fucked. 1.00

02:17:25.000 So they're fucked. 1.00

02:17:27.000 And it's always going to be better to get your news source from someone who's like an actual journalist who's independent. 1.00

02:17:33.000 You can get that now.

02:17:34.000 And that's what people are realizing.

02:17:36.000 That's why cable's like sort of slowly slipping away.

02:17:39.000 When does Netflix have news?

02:17:41.000 Ha! 0.89

02:17:42.000 That's interesting.

02:17:43.000 When do they?

02:17:43.000 It's not a bad idea, right?

02:17:45.000 Have like regular people read the news?

02:17:47.000 They just like...

02:17:49.000 Read the actual events.

02:17:50.000 As legit as could be.

02:17:52.000 The thing about the news is like you want to know all the news.

02:17:54.000 So if they just told you one story...

02:17:57.000 Like one story about the wildfires in Maui.

02:18:00.000 Really, they should be talking about that all day.

02:18:02.000 It should be like hours and hours and hours.

02:18:04.000 It can't really be five minutes.

02:18:06.000 Right.

02:18:07.000 You know, it can't really be like more than 90 people are dead, a thousand are missing.

02:18:11.000 Back to you, Bob.

02:18:12.000 Today, the Clippers scored 100. You can't do that.

02:18:15.000 Clippers didn't score 100. Right.

02:18:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:18:20.000 It's just like...

02:18:23.000 They don't have the time to give you new...

02:18:27.000 And you don't want it either, because people are spoon-fed.

02:18:29.000 They want to know, okay, what's going on in Ukraine?

02:18:32.000 Okay.

02:18:32.000 How's the economy?

02:18:33.000 Okay. 0.98

02:18:34.000 Does Bud Light still suck? 0.99

02:18:35.000 Okay. 0.97

02:18:36.000 Is it okay to watch the Barbie movie? 0.64

02:18:39.000 Yeah.

02:18:40.000 You just checked all the boxes.

02:18:42.000 Yeah, that is all the highlights.

02:18:43.000 So they can't really go into depth about things, and they can't talk about certain things.

02:18:49.000 It's not like they can just tell you what they really feel about what's going on.

02:18:53.000 They can't start talking about the military-industrial complex and its influence on politicians.

02:18:58.000 They're not going to tell you all these stories.

02:19:00.000 It's, like, very controlled.

02:19:02.000 And people realize that now.

02:19:05.000 They're not interested in it anymore.

02:19:07.000 Man, so where do you think, like, where the hell do people go to get that accurate news?

02:19:13.000 Podcasts.

02:19:14.000 Yeah.

02:19:15.000 Independent journalists who've made podcasts.

02:19:17.000 Guys like Matt Taibbi.

02:19:19.000 Guys like Crystal and Sagar on Breaking Points.

02:19:23.000 People that are independent and reliable and honest and they can give you the information as they see it.

02:19:30.000 The last two are the hardest ones to put your finger on because there's so many fake people who are pushing one agenda and you don't know what the side of the story is and they spin it to whatever direction they want it to go.

02:19:41.000 Yeah, just pure propaganda.

02:19:43.000 And they're allowed to do that now.

02:19:46.000 One of the things that's really bizarre that came out during Elon buying Twitter is finding out how much of the FBI had involvement in censoring tweets.

02:19:56.000 And censoring tweets that turned out to be accurate.

02:19:59.000 Censoring tweets about the Hunter Biden laptop, censoring tweets about COVID and vaccine data.

02:20:05.000 It's just like, the FBI was involved in people's tweets?

02:20:09.000 Like, how?

02:20:10.000 What?

02:20:11.000 And Facebook, too?

02:20:13.000 It's like, whew.

02:20:14.000 Dude, honestly, if you're not regularly listening to some prominent podcasts, you're not getting any sort of factual information.

02:20:21.000 I mean, for a guy like me, I'm a hot rod builder, dude.

02:20:24.000 I'm a businessman. 0.97

02:20:28.000 Politics aren't really my fucking thing, but listening to you, Jordan Peterson, RFK Jr., I had never fucking known about that dude, right? 0.98

02:20:37.000 And I think he's a pretty fucking cool dude. 0.98

02:20:39.000 Very interesting guy. 0.57

02:20:41.000 Very intelligent guy. 0.91

02:20:41.000 Un-fucking-believable guy. 0.91

02:20:42.000 I mean, incredibly interesting. 0.94

02:20:44.000 And that's something you would never hear about.

02:20:46.000 That's not going to come up on mainstream news and motivate a guy like me to be more interested in that guy.

02:20:52.000 Well, no one's going to ever let him just talk like that.

02:20:54.000 He told me that over 18 years, no one just let him talk like that.

02:20:58.000 Just let him not interrupt him, not stop him, not try to change the subject, to say, just go ahead and tell me everything that you think.

02:21:07.000 Your podcast with Jordan Peterson, I think you said like four words the entire time, and he just ran.

02:21:12.000 Well, Jordan's perfect for that, too.

02:21:13.000 I mean, he's also in tune right now because he does all these lectures. 0.98

02:21:17.000 So Jordan does these huge stadiums, these giant fucking places, and he's just... 0.98

02:21:24.000 He's essentially ranting for like an hour and a half. 0.98

02:21:27.000 And he has prepared bullet points and things he wants to talk about, but he kind of lets the flow go when he gets up there.

02:21:33.000 But he can do that about anything and everything.

02:21:36.000 He's ridiculously smart, like confusingly smart.

02:21:40.000 Sharp guy. 0.98

02:21:41.000 But the amount of reading that guy's done, like just the fucking, the things that he can recall at the tips of his finger, like instantaneously, it's pretty stunning. 1.00

02:21:50.000 I'm still thinking about the Facebook shit. 0.99

02:21:52.000 Sorry. 0.99

02:21:53.000 You're talking about the Facebook and the FBI. So I've just got this picture in my head at the Facebook headquarters.

02:22:00.000 You've got the dude that's on the phone with the FBI, right?

02:22:03.000 And he's like, all right, yeah, we're going to suppress those tweets.

02:22:05.000 We're going to do that.

02:22:05.000 And he's sharing a cubicle.

02:22:07.000 And this other dude, Mitch, is bitching about the Facebook marketplace.

02:22:10.000 And Deb is in Nevada bitching about her post for vases to get taken down. 1.00

02:22:17.000 Like, it's such a huge business.

02:22:19.000 Probably different levels there.

02:22:20.000 You think it's different floors?

02:22:23.000 They prioritize.

02:22:24.000 It's a big building.

02:22:25.000 But you think about the things that Facebook's dealing with on a daily basis just to run their stuff and then dealing with the, you know, I can't believe you deleted my post, you know.

02:22:33.000 Well, there's also weird things they do.

02:22:35.000 Like, I read this thing today, Jamie.

02:22:37.000 Well, I only read the headline.

02:22:38.000 I didn't read the article.

02:22:39.000 I was going to bring it up today.

02:22:41.000 They said that at one point in time, Facebook was contacted by the FBI about one of Tucker Carlson's videos and that they reduced the views of it or reduced the reach of it by 50%.

02:22:59.000 Google that. 0.98

02:23:00.000 See what the fuck that's all about. 0.96

02:23:01.000 What ever came out on Tucker? 0.99

02:23:03.000 What was the real reason they fucking shitcanned him? 0.98

02:23:05.000 I don't think you'll ever know. 0.99

02:23:06.000 I don't think he said.

02:23:08.000 I don't think he can.

02:23:09.000 He's probably in the middle of a lawsuit.

02:23:11.000 Probably can't talk about it.

02:23:13.000 But it's pretty wild. 1.00

02:23:14.000 You got literally the only successful guy on cable news, the only one that has a loyal fan base, and the only one who says wild shit. 0.99

02:23:22.000 He was talking like he was on a podcast. 0.99

02:23:26.000 Yeah.

02:23:26.000 But he was doing it on Fox.

02:23:27.000 Yeah.

02:23:28.000 Like some of the things he said, like the CIA killed Kennedy. 1.00

02:23:30.000 And everybody's like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:23:32.000 This guy on Fox? 1.00

02:23:35.000 He just said the CIA killed Kennedy?

02:23:38.000 I was just looking at your Kennedy framed deal.

02:23:42.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:23:43.000 Patrick Bet-David gave me that.

02:23:44.000 Nuts.

02:23:45.000 It's pretty cool.

02:23:46.000 Do we find it, that story?

02:23:47.000 I don't know. 0.99

02:23:48.000 Is it horseshit? 0.97

02:23:49.000 I'm not saying either way. 0.98

02:23:51.000 I just said that's not a...

02:23:52.000 I don't know where you saw it, so I have to find...

02:23:55.000 I just want you to Google Facebook reduced Tucker Carlson's video reach by...

02:24:01.000 Not a single thing came up that way.

02:24:02.000 It was other articles about different stuff with Tucker's name and Facebook and Fox News and predictions and this and that.

02:24:08.000 Nothing about...

02:24:09.000 They reduced the search history.

02:24:11.000 I should have saved it. 0.98

02:24:12.000 God damn it. 0.99

02:24:14.000 That's always one of those ones where I'm like, you'll be able to find this. 1.00

02:24:18.000 There's just too many fucking stories out there now. 0.99

02:24:21.000 Is your screenshots on your phone just, like, ridiculous? 1.00

02:24:23.000 Oh, yeah. 0.97

02:24:25.000 Yeah.

02:24:26.000 And then you try to go back and be like, what?

02:24:28.000 There's got to be something in that that I screenshot.

02:24:30.000 What is the reason?

02:24:31.000 Exactly.

02:24:32.000 Like, what is that?

02:24:33.000 It just looks like a cat.

02:24:34.000 You found it?

02:24:34.000 It says hang in there.

02:24:36.000 What does it say, Jim?

02:24:37.000 I don't know.

02:24:39.000 I got a Biden administration press Facebook about censoring Tucker Carlson post federal lawsuit.

02:24:46.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:24:47.000 From July.

02:24:47.000 Yeah.

02:24:49.000 So despite Facebook staff assessing that the video did not qualify for removal from the site.

02:24:57.000 So Facebook complied with requests from members of President Joe Biden's White House staff to throttle the reach of a 2021 video by then Fox News host Tucker Carlson, according to the federal lawsuit.

02:25:09.000 And it says despite Facebook staff assessing that the video did not qualify for removal.

02:25:15.000 So under the The request by the federal government, they decided to throttle a video that they couldn't remove because it didn't qualify for being removed.

02:25:26.000 So that means it didn't violate anything.

02:25:28.000 And what was this video about?

02:25:30.000 I'm trying to find out what it says or what it was talking about.

02:25:36.000 That's so crazy.

02:25:38.000 I'm sure they've gathered our best interests at heart.

02:25:41.000 Yeah, I'm sure we're going down a path where ours will be throttling forward.

02:25:45.000 Mr. Carlson, okay.

02:25:48.000 Strategy, Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Digital Strategy Rob Flaherty emailed Facebook executives demanding the suppression of Of a video segment by Mr. Carlson in which he questioned their safety and asserted that people who had taken the COVID-19 vaccines had sustained injuries and died.

02:26:08.000 Mr. Flaherty also flagged a video by another Fox News host, Tommy Lauren, who said she wouldn't take a vaccine.

02:26:18.000 That's wild.

02:26:20.000 Well, that's true, though.

02:26:23.000 People did sustain injuries and some people did die from it.

02:26:27.000 That's true.

02:26:29.000 And they got Facebook to throttle that, even though it's true.

02:26:34.000 That's wild.

02:26:36.000 And we paid for that staff of all those people to watch those videos and flag them and let Facebook know too.

02:26:42.000 Hold on.

02:26:43.000 Stop.

02:26:43.000 Listen to this.

02:26:45.000 Then White House senior COVID-19 advisor Andy Slavitt also messaged Facebook executive Nick Clegg about Mr. Carlson's video.

02:26:54.000 According to the judge's Tuesday ruling, Mr. Slavitt expressed his displeasure that Facebook did not remove the video and said, Not for nothing, but the last time we did this dance, it ended in an insurrection.

02:27:07.000 Mr. Clegg, in turn, noted that the video did not qualify for removal. 0.97

02:27:12.000 Holy shit! 0.98

02:27:14.000 That's some heavy stuff. 0.96

02:27:16.000 Despite the video not qualifying for removal, Facebook officials said Mr. Carlson's video was being demoted to reduce its reach.

02:27:24.000 In an April 16, 2021 follow-up, Facebook officials told Mr. Flaherty that the platform gave Mr. Carlson's video a 50% demotion for seven days and stated that it would continue to demote the video despite it not violating the platform's policies.

02:27:41.000 That's wild.

02:27:43.000 That's just pure censorship.

02:27:44.000 That's information that turns out to be true that you don't like.

02:27:48.000 You don't want people knowing about it.

02:27:50.000 And so you contacted a social media company and said, the last time we did this dance, it ended in insurrection.

02:27:59.000 This is wild stuff, man.

02:28:01.000 Crazy. 1.00

02:28:02.000 These are these fucking nuts. 1.00

02:28:05.000 It's just nuts, man. 1.00

02:28:07.000 I'm sure they know what they're doing. 0.96

02:28:11.000 Leading us to hell.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, it's very strange.

02:28:15.000 It's very strange that people who appreciate the First Amendment and the importance of it, if you're an American, it's like one of the most important things that we have that other countries don't have.

02:28:24.000 It's our ability to express ourselves.

02:28:26.000 Freedom of speech. 0.99

02:28:27.000 It's fucking everything. 0.98

02:28:28.000 People don't think it's everything. 1.00

02:28:29.000 It's everything.

02:28:30.000 It's the only way you find out what's true.

02:28:32.000 When people can't talk, then someone can say something that is inaccurate or it's propaganda, and you have no one that can say any different.

02:28:40.000 You gotta take the Second Amendment along with it, though, if you take the first. 0.73

02:28:43.000 Because if you take just the first, people are gonna be super fucking pissed off.

02:28:46.000 And they've got weapons. 0.84

02:28:48.000 Right.

02:28:49.000 Exactly.

02:28:50.000 Well, they're trying to take the second one, too.

02:28:52.000 There's a lot of that going on.

02:28:54.000 Yeah.

02:28:56.000 It's weird times, fellas.

02:28:57.000 Dude, crazy times.

02:28:59.000 Crazy, crazy.

02:29:00.000 Yeah.

02:29:01.000 But, pretty fun.

02:29:02.000 Pretty fun times, too, because it's so wacky.

02:29:05.000 Like, every day, there's something new. 0.99

02:29:06.000 A bunch of people getting fucking killed in a submarine. 0.97

02:29:09.000 You know, it's like, every day, there's something new craziness to pay attention to. 0.99

02:29:14.000 Oh, that joke last night.

02:29:15.000 I'm not going to give it away.

02:29:16.000 Oh, Tony?

02:29:18.000 Oh, dude.

02:29:19.000 Tony's an animal. 1.00

02:29:20.000 He's a fucking savage. 1.00

02:29:22.000 So fun. 0.99

02:29:23.000 Yeah, I'm super lucky to work with that guy all the time. 0.99

02:29:26.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:29:27.000 Next time you guys come back into town, I've got to take you to Kill Tony. 0.99

02:29:30.000 Kill Tony's literally the best comedy experience you could ever have.

02:29:34.000 It's a show that he does live.

02:29:36.000 From the Mothership every Monday.

02:29:38.000 And it's a panel of, like, Brian Redband and Tony, who are the hosts of the show, and then professional comedians.

02:29:44.000 And, like, last time we did it, it was me, my friend Kurt Metzger, and Post Malone.

02:29:51.000 Like, we were the guests.

02:29:52.000 And it was so fun. 0.93

02:29:54.000 It was just fucking ridiculously fun. 0.81

02:29:56.000 And the show is amateurs, and people just starting out get one minute. 0.92

02:30:00.000 And they go up and do one minute and then they get roasted by the panel and there's an amazing band.

02:30:06.000 It's the most fun show ever. 0.99

02:30:07.000 Oh shit, we'll have to do that. 0.99

02:30:08.000 And Tony hosts that. 1.00

02:30:10.000 That's like his...

02:30:11.000 He's been doing it for like 13 years.

02:30:14.000 Yeah, he's been...

02:30:15.000 How long has he been hosting?

02:30:16.000 10. 10 because we just did the anniversary.

02:30:18.000 Yeah, 10 years. 1.00

02:30:20.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:30:20.000 Yeah, he's a funny dude. 1.00

02:30:21.000 And he's doing an anniversary...

02:30:22.000 Well, he did an anniversary show, a 10-year anniversary show that we did at this big theater in town. 0.99

02:30:27.000 And then they're doing a New Year's show at a fucking arena. 0.97

02:30:30.000 So they're doing an HEB arena for Kill Tony for New Year's. 1.00

02:30:34.000 Damn. 0.99

02:30:34.000 Congrats to him. 0.99

02:30:35.000 Bananas! 0.93

02:30:36.000 That's awesome.

02:30:37.000 Bananas.

02:30:37.000 Filling arenas.

02:30:38.000 That's got to be a hell of a feeling.

02:30:40.000 Yeah, for this crazy show that they started in this tiny room in the Comedy Store.

02:30:46.000 It's this place called The Belly Room.

02:30:48.000 It only seats like 70 people.

02:30:49.000 That's where they started this show like 10 years ago.

02:30:53.000 Nuts.

02:30:54.000 Fucking nuts. 1.00

02:30:56.000 It's wild, right? 0.98

02:30:58.000 I mean, bringing it back to you guys, like when you first started Roadster Shop and now being one of the premier builders in the world of those kind of cars, I mean, how long have you guys been around for?

02:31:07.000 Dude, we've been doing this now 20 years.

02:31:09.000 Wow. 0.99

02:31:10.000 Yeah, time fucking flies. 0.88

02:31:12.000 So when you first started out, in like the 2003 market, what was available in terms of custom suspensions and things along those lines? 0.91

02:31:22.000 In 2003, I mean, it was a different world.

02:31:25.000 What people were interested in was wildly different.

02:31:28.000 So you had a different demographic.

02:31:30.000 Guys were into, like, 30s hot ruts.

02:31:33.000 When you looked at, like, aftermarket custom cars, they were like a 1932 Ford, a Deuce Roadster, something like that, five-window coupe.

02:31:41.000 That's what was the popular aftermarket.

02:31:43.000 The muscle car stuff hadn't really been modified yet.

02:31:46.000 So there was like aftermarket suspension for those.

02:31:50.000 We were manufacturing chassis for 30s and 40s street rods, you called them.

02:31:55.000 And it wasn't until like, I don't know, probably like 2008, 2007?

02:32:01.000 What do you think caused this shift?

02:32:02.000 Do you think it was shows like overhauling and rides?

02:32:06.000 You know, honestly, when the recession hit, our entire shop was all 1930s hot rods.

02:32:12.000 When we weathered the storm and got through the recession, there wasn't a single one of those left, and it was all muscle cars. 0.98

02:32:19.000 And it was like a fucking light switch, you know? 0.97

02:32:22.000 I don't know what the deal was. 0.99

02:32:23.000 It was just a changing of the guards.

02:32:26.000 What do you think?

02:32:27.000 A little bit generational of what was cool when you were in high school or what your parents had.

02:32:32.000 And then there's always like a, Josh put it best, like a pendulum of this is cool, this is cool, we're going to do the complete opposite and it swings the other direction and you're just constantly going back and forth.

02:32:43.000 High-end show cars to patina drivers from pro-touring muscle cars into lifted off-road four-wheel drive stuff.

02:32:51.000 It's just always moving.

02:32:53.000 Everybody wants to do something different.

02:32:54.000 It's the counterculture part of it.

02:32:56.000 As soon as something I even heard, I think y'all were talking about it on Post Malone's podcast, everybody's into something until you find out everybody else is into it.

02:33:04.000 Right. 0.89

02:33:04.000 And then it's like, oh, I've got to do something fucking different. 0.89

02:33:06.000 Yeah, but if everybody got into muscle cars, I wouldn't stop. 0.96

02:33:10.000 I don't think so.

02:33:11.000 I don't think they have because there's so many different muscle cars and there's so many different styles and ways to build them.

02:33:17.000 I feel that way about the UFC too.

02:33:18.000 When I first started working for the UFC, I started working for them in 97 and I did it from 97 to 98 and then I did it...

02:33:26.000 I started working again for them in 2001. But I was back when nobody knew what the fuck it was. 0.96

02:33:34.000 I was doing these shows in 97, Dothan, Alabama. 0.98

02:33:37.000 You're flying in a propeller plane and people are fighting with shoes on.

02:33:40.000 Bare knuckle and headbutts were legal. 0.90

02:33:43.000 Like, it was crazy.

02:33:44.000 The crazy times.

02:33:45.000 I'm happy that more people are...

02:33:47.000 I'm not like, yeah, I knew when it was cool. 0.99

02:33:50.000 Like, that to me is so dumb. 0.99

02:33:52.000 Like, if you like a band, and all of a sudden the band makes it, you're like, yeah, they fucking sold out. 0.99

02:33:56.000 I don't like them now.

02:33:57.000 Everybody likes them.

02:34:00.000 UFC's changed too, right?

02:34:02.000 All different fighting styles and different weight classes and what's kind of cool.

02:34:05.000 Yeah, it's just gotten better.

02:34:07.000 It's just constantly gotten better.

02:34:08.000 The people today are just the best ever.

02:34:12.000 It's insane, like the level of talent.

02:34:14.000 And it's such a pressure cooker because in every division, like in this weekend you have Aljamain Sterling fighting Sugar Sean O'Malley.

02:34:21.000 So you have the best of the best.

02:34:23.000 Like the most exciting contender versus the most dominant champion.

02:34:27.000 And it's just, woo!

02:34:29.000 And that happens.

02:34:29.000 Like this pressure cooker in that division.

02:34:31.000 Because you've got guys like Corey Sandhagen and Marlon Vera.

02:34:35.000 You've got so many killers in this division.

02:34:38.000 Everybody's just striving to be the champion.

02:34:42.000 And they're around so much talent.

02:34:44.000 That everybody has to get better.

02:34:46.000 So it's like the level of competition is so strong in every weight class that it's just this insane like diamond machine.

02:34:56.000 Like the pressure makes these insane diamonds of talent.

02:34:59.000 And that's just off the charts right now.

02:35:02.000 That's what we've seen in ours, especially over the last 10 years.

02:35:05.000 Our industry is, you know, the other shops coming up and wanting better and better and better, which is why we've had to continue getting better on all the chassis and the Different innovations that we've come out with, but it's the trickle down.

02:35:17.000 I mean, you talk about UFC getting mainstream, getting so much bigger.

02:35:21.000 Then you've got the apparel brands, and then you've got, you know, the fight gear, and you've got stuff in the gloves. 0.99

02:35:26.000 Everybody's got to get better at their shit. 0.98

02:35:28.000 You actually can make a business to support that. 0.99

02:35:30.000 The same thing in our industry where you have, we can build...

02:35:34.000 The chassis at the volume that we can because of the way the industry has gone.

02:35:38.000 Well, the market's there. 0.85

02:35:39.000 So you can put the time, you can put the effort into it, you can put the engineering and spend the money to develop something that's really fucking badass.

02:35:45.000 It's also great what you guys do for the hobbyist, for someone who wants to build their own car.

02:35:50.000 Like, you provide them the actual suspension.

02:35:55.000 Like, if someone knows how to do all that, and they have the time and the garage space, You know, they can actually use the same components that you guys do and do it themselves.

02:36:04.000 Absolutely.

02:36:04.000 And that's a big portion of our business.

02:36:06.000 I mean, a lot of guys, we...

02:36:07.000 I can't tell you how many, like, home builders we have.

02:36:11.000 They take that chassis, they take all the same components that we use in a car that maybe we build for you.

02:36:16.000 The chassis that's under his Camaro.

02:36:17.000 Yeah.

02:36:18.000 The chassis that's under your 69 Camaro that's honestly a father and son could do that swap and chassis install in a long weekend.

02:36:25.000 That's awesome.

02:36:27.000 That's awesome. 0.94

02:36:28.000 Yeah, and they take their 69 Camaro from driving like, you know, an antiquated kind of death trap to now they've got a fucking sports car, you know? 0.96

02:36:36.000 Yeah. 0.90

02:36:37.000 Well, I think what you guys do is awesome.

02:36:39.000 I appreciate it.

02:36:39.000 And I'm glad we got to do this podcast.

02:36:41.000 It's been fucking awesome. 0.78

02:36:42.000 I've had a blast. 0.91

02:36:43.000 Thank you for building the most insane car of all time.

02:36:45.000 You're welcome, man. 1.00

02:36:46.000 Enjoy that fucker. 1.00

02:36:47.000 I will. 1.00

02:36:48.000 I promise.

02:36:48.000 All right.

02:36:49.000 Social media.

02:36:50.000 You guys Roadster Shop on Instagram.

02:36:53.000 Roadster Shop on Instagram.

02:36:54.000 Roadster Shop.

02:36:55.000 Just Google Roadster Shop.

02:36:56.000 Roadster Shop on Instagram.

02:36:59.000 Oil and Whiskey on Instagram.

02:37:01.000 We're kind of a little spread out there.

02:37:03.000 Check us out.

02:37:04.000 Well, I appreciate you guys.

02:37:05.000 Thank you very much for coming on.

02:37:06.000 Thank you.

02:37:07.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 17, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #2022 - Jeremy Gerber, Phil Gerber, & Josh Henning

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