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00:02:08.000I don't know if it was credit cards yet.
00:02:11.000I think they might have been able to use credit cards, but I know they also had a lot of cash on them, and they got robbed, and the guy that I used to buy weed from got shot.
00:04:33.000And he's just stuck in the dirt in your house.
00:04:36.000If plants really are conscious and they're stuck in the dirt in people's houses and the people are doing math and shooting each other, these plants would be like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
00:06:04.000How do we not know that it's not that at all?
00:06:08.000That's an assumption that's like minimalizing their ability to recognize what's going on.
00:06:14.000Put that up again, like how it's explained.
00:06:19.000Because the way it's explained, it's like, here it says, this may be because the vibrations of metal music are too intense for plants and stimulate cells a little too much.
00:07:36.000I guess any song over and over and over again would drive you out of your mind.
00:07:39.000They played Panama by Van Halen, U2's All I Want Is You, Bruce Cockburn, If I Had It Rocket Launcher, and they just kept playing it over and over again?
00:09:56.000Yeah, I mean, I know some people that they're not good on it.
00:09:59.000I know I'm probably better as a human when I'm not smoking weed, just in terms of productivity, just in terms of like, just being a little bit sharper, but I'm also miserable and depressed and fucking anxious, so it's like a trade-off,
00:11:51.000Our research shows the majority of natural American spirit smokers incorrectly believe that their cigarettes are safer than other cigarettes.
00:11:59.000The truth out there is that they're just as dangerous as any other cigarette.
00:12:18.000I think they did a lot because they say they're going after any of the flavored tobacco shit.
00:12:24.000Like you can't get flavored blunt wraps in New York City anymore because the there I guess the angle is they're saying that kids are more likely to buy flavored stuff Which is just I think that's kind of stupid as well.
00:17:20.000If plants really are intelligent and we're making, like, splicing them together and giving them superpowers, it's weird what botanists can do.
00:17:47.000And one of the more interesting things were, like, the trees, right?
00:17:50.000And we had a tour guide, and I don't know shit about this, but there's certain trees that start attacking each other.
00:17:56.000And, like, one tree would wrap around the other tree and kill that tree, and then the other tree was sort of growing specific roots that break that other tree.
00:18:03.000It was the coolest thing I'd ever—I was also high—but it was the coolest thing that I had ever fucking heard of.
00:18:08.000And I was like, there's so many, like— We're good to go.
00:21:53.000Jupiter is so massive that it sucks up most of the asteroids and comets.
00:21:58.000That's what allows us to not just be pelted all the time because there's like hundreds of thousands of these near-earth objects that are just fucking flying around.
00:22:05.000Joe, why are you trying to scare the audience right now?
00:22:59.000It's like the most insane prospect ever.
00:23:03.000This infinite thing that we exist in and there's rocks flying through it that occasionally slam into the planet and cause civilization to reset.
00:23:40.000He's this dude that, along with Graham Hancock, they've come up with this theory that human beings got hit by asteroids somewhere around 11,800 years ago.
00:24:01.000And then the civilization that emerged from that, like Babylon and Mesopotamia, the first civilizations we know of, like Sumer, those were probably a reboot, like thousands of years of chaos before they figured out how to calm down and develop civilization again.
00:24:20.000I don't know about any of that shit, dude.
00:24:29.000You were super interested in everything?
00:24:31.000Because I watch you interview people, and you're really fucking good at having these conversations with these people in all of these fields.
00:24:47.000But it's only things that I'm interested in.
00:24:48.000Because no comic that I know does that.
00:24:50.000Every other comic is a fucking idiot who's just smoking weed or drinking beer and just trying to show up and get some pussy at the end of the night.
00:24:57.000And I think, look, it's a compliment because it really is, I think, why you created something so big is you're so interested in so much stuff that I think it gave you this mass appeal.
00:25:05.000But was it always that way or was it doing the podcast that turned you into that?
00:25:09.000Well, I've always been curious, but then doing the podcast allowed me to have all these conversations with people.
00:25:15.000It's like getting an accidental education about just a broad range of subjects.
00:25:57.000But he really, truly believed that we're in a very pivotal moment in our civilization when it comes to...
00:26:06.000What is happening, particularly with censorship, and when you have something that's essentially the town square for the world, which Twitter is, if you prevent people from other ideologies or other points of view or other political parties,
00:26:24.000if you prevent them from using this space and only people that agree with you can use that space, that's dangerous.
00:26:36.000I know you think you're doing it, whoever's doing that, because it's the right thing and we have to protect people from bad ideas, but that never ends well.
00:26:59.000They're going to use it against causes that you believe in.
00:27:03.000Before Elon bought Twitter, we were headed in a really weird, it seemed like very dangerous direction for comedy, for anybody who wasn't super...
00:27:16.000Left-wing, liberal, if you were trying to create shit online, it was scary.
00:27:22.000And we do Legion of Skanks, most offensive podcast on earth.
00:27:41.000You see Shane has a special out on Netflix now.
00:27:43.000I feel like we've sort of calmed down a little bit and that was a big part of it because it was like, well, no, we need to even the playing field a little bit.
00:27:50.000We need to hear all opinions and hear both sides.
00:27:53.000So I was actually legitimately worried and now it seems like this is a little bit of a pause in that.
00:28:02.000The problem is all the other social media platforms are essentially run by people who think the same way.
00:28:08.000They have the same opinions on things.
00:28:11.000There's no one social media platform that stands out that's like a huge place where other than Twitter now or X. Where you can just say whatever the fuck you want.
00:28:25.000People are saying Michelle Obama's a man.
00:31:56.000I know Trump and Biden both did this, right?
00:31:58.000They both had massive social media teams, I'm sure.
00:32:01.000I know comedians who have massive social media teams, so I'm sure that they both had, like, the best of the best.
00:32:07.000And yeah, they both went in and manipulated algorithms and did whatever they had to do in order to get their message in front of the most people possible, and that's the game now.
00:33:24.000When Rockefeller Center was empty in the 30s and 40s, the British Security Coordination Organization came in.
00:33:31.000It's part of the British Secret Service.
00:33:34.000And as it says here, that space was their head offices, the 35th and 36th floor of Rockefeller Center, where they disseminated and controlled part of the media for at least a year or two before World War II, it seems like.
00:34:02.000Oh, I wanted to ask if this is true, because someone was trying to convince me the other night that those stories of bricks being left off in neighborhoods where protests, has that been substantiated?
00:34:44.000As it relates, just a side note, I remember one time- Is that, before the riots, had you ever noticed piles of bricks, like construction sites just laying there?
00:34:53.000You would see a construction site and you would see, but they always, with a construction site, and once again, I smoke a lot of weed in public, so we were always looking for back alleys and shit to smoke weed in, stairwells.
00:35:03.000I used to sell comedy club tickets on the street, that's how I got my start in comedy, in New York City all throughout the early 2000s.
00:35:10.000And you can't really get into construction sites.
00:37:14.000You had to really put in the footwork and physically care.
00:37:17.000Now people can sort of pretend to care.
00:37:19.000While they're just being addicted to their phone, while they're being addicted to Twitter and all these other social media platforms, and they're being tricked into just looking at advertising, because that's what it's all about, they get to also pretend that they care, they get to feel like they're doing something, and then it just starts to snowball, and then it turns into fucking real chaos,
00:37:34.000and people at each other's throats about shit that people don't even really give a fuck about.
00:37:38.000If you go to the supermarket, like, people are just cool.
00:37:40.000Like, in real life, you go to the supermarket, nobody gives a fuck about who voted for who.
00:37:44.000Nobody cares about, you know, what your political beliefs are.
00:37:47.000We just coexist and we do what we do in real life.
00:37:49.000And then we jump on the internet and we just fucking, it's a war.
00:37:53.000Well, I think it's also got exacerbated during the pandemic, right?
00:39:31.000In some ways, There's something dehumanizing about it because more and more people are just communicating through like text messages and online social media and stuff and not communicating that much in real life.
00:39:54.000My son just got a phone for the first time.
00:39:56.000He's 10. Just got his iPad for the first time.
00:40:02.000It was a conscious decision that me and his mother made.
00:40:05.000We said, we're not going to have him be addicted to a screen.
00:40:09.000And staring at a screen all the time, you see kids in restaurants, as soon as they sit down, they give them a pad or a phone, and they are disconnected from the entire conversation.
00:40:59.000And I'm so afraid that he's just going to look up the shit that I say and out of context just not really understand why we say stupid shit to make people laugh.
00:41:08.000Yeah, so I'm just secretly trying to make him racist.
00:41:12.000I whisper things in his ears at night when I put him to bed.
00:41:17.000Could you imagine your kid doing stand-up?
00:41:28.000Yeah, so we did the roast at Skank Fest in Houston for me, and me and my ex-girlfriend wrote him a few jokes, and he did the jokes, not at Skank Fest, he did it like a video.
00:41:40.000And then, so he was really into that, and then I was at the stand one night just at the comic table I brought him, And Bonnie McFarlane was there with, you know, and she's got kids as well.
00:41:52.000And he was like, oh, I want to go on stage.
00:41:54.000I was like, James, you're not going on stage.
00:41:55.000If you want to go on stage, I was like, if you really want to go on stage in a few years, I was like, you can write some jokes, take it seriously, go to an open mic, do it the way that a comic would do it, right?
00:42:05.000And he was like, okay, yeah, you're right, Dad.
00:42:07.000And then I went on stage, and then two minutes later, Bonnie McFarlane comes in the room with him, and she's like, here, put him on stage!
00:42:11.000And she shoved him up on stage, and yeah, he just started roasting me and talking shit about me, and he did well.
00:42:17.000You know, he's a little performer, dude.
00:42:19.000He's in, like, musical theater, and he's, like, super well-rounded kid.
00:43:01.000But yeah, I mean, you know, fucking...
00:43:04.000I feel bad for this next generation because I don't even think they realize what's happening with that.
00:43:11.000It's just that addiction to your phone.
00:43:12.000That's really what I think it's going to be.
00:43:14.000Eventually, everyone's going to have this sort of opinion and attitude because people are starting to get wind of it that it's bad to be on your phone that much.
00:43:21.000And I think just parents are going to just start saying like, yeah, no, you can't be on a fucking cell phone all day.
00:43:28.000I think we have to make a decision to do that with our kids.
00:43:31.000Yeah, you got to teach them discipline for sure, but also recognize that everyone is using these things and it's a part of civilization now.
00:43:40.000I really feel like if we could see the writing on the wall, we would be terrified.
00:43:46.000I think human beings are slipping into some weird place where we're for sure within the next few years going to be connected to computers.
00:44:06.000And it's almost like all these things are falling in line at the same time.
00:44:13.000Like all these endocrine disruptors and plastics that are fucking up people's reproductive systems.
00:44:21.000And then, at the same time, we're all getting addicted to phones and not as personal.
00:44:27.000You know, because people aren't really communicating, hanging out, just talking to each other without checking their phone every five seconds.
00:44:32.000The future's gonna be us looking at each other and downloading each other's thoughts.
00:46:11.000That's the really, like, and then you gotta figure, like, it's gonna be who's rich, who has the best, you know, computer built into their body, because the same guy who can afford, you know, a fucking Lamborghini is gonna have a super brain, you know, and his computer's gonna be faster than your computer.
00:46:26.000He's gonna be able to download and upload information faster than you.
00:48:41.000If I could dodge some fucking asteroids.
00:48:44.000You know what I bet they will be able to do, probably really soon, is to give you a VR representation of what it would be like to travel through space.
00:48:58.000I mean, it was like, it was just a movie, essentially.
00:49:00.000It wasn't like, I didn't get to, like, free move, but it was like I was on, like, a space station type thing, so you were, like, moving all over.
00:55:31.000They wouldn't pay attention to the GPS. Like if an Uber driver doesn't pay attention to the GPS and they start doing their own thing, I would just be like, dude, what are you doing?
00:55:37.000I mean, come on, you gotta pay attention to the GPS. And then you're like, of course, they're gonna give you a one star immediately.
00:57:00.000Like heisted and the guy, they'd just shoot him in the back of the head and steal all their money.
00:57:05.000And it was, you know, it was really horrible stories about these like poor immigrants who came over here and they're driving these gypsy cabs and people are robbing them and shooting them.
00:57:53.000I mean, if you got your knee operated on.
00:57:55.000I have a buddy of mine who was on the U.S. ski team and he got his...
00:57:58.000He has more operations than anyone I've ever met.
00:58:01.000And he had his knees fixed in the 80s when they used to open you up like a fish and they would take a chunk of your hamstring and just screw it all in place and try to fix your ACL and maybe it'll stick and maybe it won't and...
00:58:16.000Your leg's compromised now because a chunk of your hamstring is missing.
01:02:36.000It's still badass, don't get me wrong, but when I think about it as like a martial art, I go, this just doesn't seem like the same type of superpower that jiu-jitsu felt like.
01:02:46.000It's not, but if you don't have it, you're in real trouble.
01:02:50.000Because if someone has it and they're very fast, they can fuck you up before you can get close to grabbing them.
01:02:55.000And if they're athletic, they can avoid being taken down.
01:03:15.000There was a good video, and it was just a jiu-jitsu coach, and he brought in a professional boxer, and that was the whole exercise.
01:03:21.000He had all of his jiu-jitsu guys trying to take this guy down.
01:03:23.000The guy could only box, and they could only try to take him down, and this guy was just really good, and his footwork was incredible, and they just couldn't get close to him.
01:06:09.000You know, but it's so normal as long as it's under control and the best thing about jujitsu and martial arts in general is the people that are the practitioners of it They're probably way less likely to get into street fights.
01:06:24.000They're probably way less likely to go and purposely hurt people.
01:06:28.000They're probably way less likely to go and pick fights.
01:06:32.000And not 100%, because, you know, you always get bad apples that just are badass dudes, you know, troubled people that just learn how to fight and then become scary.
01:10:05.000I don't even have this joke anymore, but I kind of was trying to talk about it in my act about how everyone cared about the Ukraine for like two weeks because then it became Gay Pride Month.
01:10:14.000And June hit and then everyone just changed their flags to gay flags.
01:10:17.000Everyone stopped talking about the Ukraine.
01:10:21.000They kind of stopped talking about Maui real quick.
01:12:32.000Everybody's like, there's so many wild conspiracies, like fucking directed energy weapons were used, and there's all these crazy conspiracies.
01:12:44.000About people preparing for this fire in advance.
01:12:48.000Every time something like this happens, just the super sketchy conspiracy theories start flying around.
01:13:56.000You could watch one of those videos and you could be compelled if you don't have a good understanding of what's actually available in terms of satellite technology and how they've been utilizing it forever and how you can take the images that are from Japanese satellites,
01:14:53.000I mean these are the same guys that you remember when that dude the actor Shia LaBeouf He had this website about Trump and is like he will not divide us.
01:15:04.000Yeah, and he like had a flag that was streamed 24 7 from his website and these Super nerds online they figured out exactly where is in the country by looking at the stars in the background.
01:15:20.000Yeah, that's right and And then figuring out where the constellation would be.
01:15:54.000Radiolab's a great podcast, by the way.
01:15:57.000And they did this podcast on it and then they wound up taking the podcast down because people were offended that these people on 4chan who are responsible for this, like these people, they say horrible things online and inappropriate things and racist things and show violence and you're supporting them.
01:16:16.000As a whole, anyone on 4chan is considered a racist or violent?
01:19:13.000If you're a conspiracy theorist, you'd think it's intentional.
01:19:16.000If you're not, you think that the measures that they put in place led people to be isolated in extreme anxiety, which has kind of never really happened before, collectively to mass groups of people.
01:19:28.000And then they're on social media all the time, which is very disconnected from human interaction.
01:19:33.000And we get to watch them get more isolated from each other.
01:19:37.000More polarized and also more susceptible to propaganda because a lot of critical thinking people that in the past would have questioned pharmaceutical drug companies all of a sudden we're all on board.
01:26:00.000And he was responsible and was like, no, I can't.
01:26:02.000I'll tell you guys why I have AIDS. And then they went back and told their parents, and the parents were like, get this fucking AIDS kid out of school.
01:29:46.000He believed that the reason why HIV existed in these people that had AIDS is that HIV is a weak virus and it exists In a person who's got an immune-compromised system.
01:30:00.000And that a normal person would just fight it off.
01:30:07.000That having HIV... I'm fucking this up, I'm sure.
01:30:12.000But I think it was that having HIV... Didn't mean that that's what was giving you the compromised immune system.
01:30:21.000But the fact that your immune system was compromised was probably why you had HIV. And that even in babies that test HIV positive when they're young, a lot of times they're HIV negative later.
01:31:02.000If the virus did not infect the baby, the baby will eventually lose its mother's antibodies and test negative for HIV. A baby born to an HIV positive mother Will thus always test positive for HIV. Whether that newborn baby is truly seropositive or not.
01:31:19.000So it says again, if the virus did not infect the baby, the baby will eventually lose its mother's antibodies and test negative for HIV. Huh.
01:31:43.000Well, I think just being healthy just in general, you know, my assumption is that's why Magic Johnson, everyone's like, oh, he, you know, obviously him having money for good drugs helps, but he's a professional athlete.
01:31:55.000I'm assuming he just was super fucking healthy.
01:32:31.000Fucking great show, like, way ahead of its time.
01:32:33.000Before, like, there was a lot of podcasts out there.
01:32:35.000Before, there was, like, it was just a fucking really good show.
01:32:39.000And they would just kind of dispel bullshit in each episode.
01:32:42.000And they talked about AIDS. And they just went over the numbers of how unlikely you were to get AIDS if you had sex even with an HIV-positive woman because of how much it exists, you know, I guess within vaginal fluid.
01:33:03.000And the whole point of that movie is that fucking, you know, the girl gets AIDS and she's trying to find the guy that gave her AIDS throughout the whole movie.
01:33:13.000So in my mind, I'm going like, all right, the whole plot of the movie doesn't make fucking sense probably to begin with.
01:33:19.000But then the very last scene of the movie, the big ending is, spoiler alert, one of the other guys that is in the movie ends up date raping the girl with AIDS. She's like passed out on drugs on the couch.
01:33:29.000And then he gets AIDS. Well, yeah, but that's the big like, dun-dun, now he has AIDS, you assume.
01:33:34.000But after that, I'm like, he probably didn't get AIDS. He probably just got away with it.
01:33:39.000We thought you'd get AIDS if you just, like, kissed somebody back then.
01:33:43.000Dude, I made out with a girl from South Africa when I was, like, 20, and I remember, and she was white, and I was like, dude, Africa, they have, like, huge AIDS. I remember being like, dude, this is it.
01:33:52.000I got AIDS. Her teeth were probably bleeding.
01:34:15.000I wonder how many of those people they actually test for HIV. I wonder how many of those people they declare AIDS because their immune system is severely compromised.
01:34:26.000Because you gotta imagine that a lot of those people that have acquired immune deficiency syndrome, if you have a serious, obvious culprit, like no food, tainted water, terrible living conditions, dirt floors, that's gonna fuck your immune system up too.
01:34:45.000Everything's gonna fuck your immune system up too.
01:36:11.000New Jersey, it was like night and day difference.
01:36:13.000And Jersey's a blue state, but like, I mean, I just don't even think it is.
01:36:17.000I have no idea how it's a blue state because there's so many fucking American flags on like front lawns in New Jersey everywhere, all over New Jersey.
01:36:23.000Well, it came that close to going Republican.
01:36:57.000Yeah, Jersey's got a bunch of cool places.
01:36:59.000Yeah, there's always, like, when I was there in the 90s, when I was coming up, there was always places you could headline, there's weird spots.
01:37:08.000Because it was, you know, a branch of New York City, there's so many great comics right there that rooms just start popping up all over the place.
01:38:02.000I'm lucky because when I really started headlining, we already had the podcast, we already had a little bit of an audience, so I didn't have to do those really shitty gigs where you gotta go perform for people who don't know you, don't wanna see you, which exists in cities.
01:38:16.000When you go to a city like New York, Not for you, but like for most comics, like the audience is just there for the show that night.
01:38:24.000They're not there for any particular comedian.
01:39:45.000Well, some guys just write the jokes down, and then they go and tell them on stage like that, and, like, that's crazy.
01:39:52.000I know comics that, like, just write...
01:39:54.000And they write their stand-up in their cadence, and then they go on stage and tell it, and I'm like, every time I tell a joke, it starts off with some dumb idea where I'm like, it's just a little kernel, like maybe one or two punchlines, and then I try to build it out from there.
01:40:07.000Or maybe I have a couple jokes about a similar topic, and you try to put it together and make it like a chunk.
01:40:12.000But it always has to be worked out with the reaction of the audience, and that's why it's really important for them to be there.
01:40:19.000And those late night shows, we used to do check spots in New York City.
01:40:24.000They would drop fucking checks on them.
01:40:25.000You do it as a headliner, you know, most clubs still have, you know, they still drop the checks on the headliners, which is a terrible way to do it.
01:40:32.000Well, the check spot is someone who comes out specifically to do stand-up while the checks are getting dropped.
01:40:59.000It was such a tough spot, but it made you really good at just being in that moment, and you're just not nervous anymore because it's the shittiest spot possible.
01:41:08.000But yeah, I think those things are good to have Young comedians need that.
01:47:06.000I do a family, we either bring my company, my podcast network, we have like 15 producers, so we rent a couple villas on the beach and we just fucking party the whole time.
01:47:16.000Or I do it with my family, I'll pick one or the other.
01:47:19.000And they just made it legal I'd say maybe five years ago.
01:47:24.000Before that, you had to go buy it on the beach.
01:47:27.000And it was like, no, you could get weed very easily.
01:47:29.000But it was really shitty, like dirt weed.
01:47:31.000But it was Jamaica, so it just fucking ruled.
01:47:33.000It didn't matter that it wasn't good quality weed.
01:47:35.000You just smoked a big fat joint of it on the beach, and that was that.
01:47:38.000But they made it legal, and first it was medicinally legal a few years ago, and they have a smoke shop that I went to, and they call a doctor.
01:47:47.000They just call some Jamaican dude, and you get on the phone with him, and it's like, hey, what's wrong with your man?
01:48:33.000I just love the fact that you can still...
01:48:37.000When they took travel away, and they were limiting travel to people who were vaccinated, in certain places you had to be vaccinated, it was just like...
01:52:06.000They drive around, just park places, they ring the bell.
01:52:09.000They got busted once, because as soon as they made it recreational legal, all these fucking Puerto Ricans were like, we're gonna have weed trucks.
01:52:17.000This wasn't part of the process of legalizing weed, but they were like, we're just going to do it.
01:52:20.000So they had like, one day the cops were just like, what are we doing about these weed trucks?
01:52:25.000And they busted like 16 trucks in a day.
01:52:27.000And they like, I don't even think they arrested the guys.
01:52:29.000They just literally confiscated everything and they held it as like evidence and like, but I think all those guys made like...
01:56:06.000They're doing a thing as well where now I know in certain places like California, they can't package it in a way where it looks like candy or they can't shape it in a certain way, right?
01:56:16.000Wasn't there a thing with Mike Tyson's gummies?
01:56:19.000He couldn't sell them in certain places because they were shaped like ears and you can't have them shaped as characters or things in certain jurisdictions.
01:56:26.000Because people would think it's candy.
01:58:50.000If you take acid, maybe you'll never come back.
01:58:53.000Yeah, I think I took so much acid one time.
01:58:56.000The most acid I ever took when I was 19 years old, maybe 18. Me and my buddy Dan Doherty, we got a medicine dropper, this fucking hippie kid, this fucking real big known hippie in my town.
01:59:11.000When hallucinogens came to town in New York, where I was at, Rockland County, New York, when hallucinogens came around in the early 2000s, late 90s, you got them.
01:59:19.000Because they only came around once in a while.
01:59:21.000There'd be like a fucking hippie festival upstate, and people would bring strips of acid down, or they would have mushrooms.
01:59:27.000So when you would hear about somebody having it, you'd fucking drive.
01:59:30.000We used to drive from Rockland County, which is right outside of New York City.
01:59:33.000We used to drive up to Albany, because there was a guy that would get it up there, and we would fucking pick it up when he had it, and he had it like twice a year.
01:59:40.000But this kid was like, dude, I have liquid acid in an eyedropper.
01:59:43.000We're like, oh, no way, dude, let's do it.
01:59:45.000He was like, $3 a hit, which was super cheap.
01:59:47.000And then my buddy Dan, I remember he did like two drops, and I was like, oh, sweet, dude.
01:59:52.000He was like, all right, let me do another one.
02:00:35.000I don't even remember most of the trip, but I remember I saw a friend and they got in their car, and the lights from the car, it was like I was on a spaceship, dude.
02:00:45.000It was just like the music, and I mean, it was just...
02:00:48.000The hardest I've ever tripped by far, and it's everything, like the visuals, the sounds, the feeling, but such an intense trip, like scary.
02:00:56.000It started becoming really scary, started going down the road where everything is everything.
02:01:01.000That was my conclusion, was that life is death, and death is life, and sound is the same thing as a fucking table.
02:01:10.000And I remember like starting to think, it kept on coming into my head to kill myself because I wanted, that's an experience that I could only experience once.
02:01:18.000It was like just really scary fucking thoughts.
02:03:20.000When you see ChatGPT, when you see it answer questions and shit, well, ChatGPT now has the IQ of 155, you know, but a ChatGPT5 is going to have an IQ of a thousand.
02:03:32.000What is ChatGPT5's IQ? It's going to be something ridiculous.
02:03:40.000I would like to think that that is just a crazy conspiracy theory, but people who really know that really are in the know are like, no, no, no, this is going to happen.
02:04:18.000And at the same time, artificial intelligence reaches a solution.
02:04:23.000That instead of human beings with their fragile emotions and egos, why don't we govern with logic and intelligence based on all the known facts in a way that's beneficial to everyone, both robots and people.
02:05:06.000So poison the food supply, give them microplastics so their dicks shrink and the females have more miscarriages, and then slowly get them to this weakened state where they don't have any hormones.
02:05:20.000Yeah, where there are no men, there are no women.
02:05:45.000Well, there would be people that were still alive that probably had kids, and those kids had to die.
02:05:49.000It wouldn't be as simple as everybody who's alive.
02:05:51.000It would be, like, if they're going to do that, what they're going to do is they're going to make all the kids sterile.
02:05:59.000They're gonna give you enough of these...
02:06:01.000If I'm plotting, if I'm artificial intelligence, I'm gonna use all these contaminants, I'm gonna make them readily available and cheaper than natural uses, things like pesticides and herbicides and shit like that, these fucking things that get into the water and ruin everything.
02:06:20.000Make sure that these people figure that out.
02:06:31.000And then slowly but surely, as it becomes alive and sentient, you deal with this, like...
02:06:40.000Just demoralized version of the human species.
02:06:43.000Just this weakened state, sedentary, staring at screens all day version of the human species, which is way easier to just take over in a wave.
02:06:56.000And then those people never have kids.
02:07:22.000It's kind of happening in Japan, I believe.
02:07:24.000I think it's happening in different parts of the world where they're really concerned because young people aren't having kids in a way that could replicate society right now with older people.
02:07:35.000Yeah, you hear a lot more young people talking about not wanting to have kids, and it's the fucking greatest thing ever.
02:07:41.000It's the best thing you'll ever experience in the fucking world.
02:08:47.000And if you raise them cool, and you're cool, they're nice people.
02:08:51.000It's nice to be around nice people that you love dearly.
02:08:54.000Yeah, and the idea of like, you know, because I was probably one of those people who'd be like, alright, yeah, you have a kid, life becomes boring, you know, it's just a different...
02:09:01.000Oh, I thought that when I was a kid, too.
02:09:02.000Life becomes different, you know what I'm saying?
02:10:56.000That's how a person learns, but you want a safe world.
02:10:59.000You want him to be challenged because that makes him a stronger person.
02:11:03.000You want real-life challenges to be in.
02:11:05.000And by the way, he won the gold medal, which was such a great experience, but he also lost the no-gi, his last match, so he only got silver and no-gi.
02:12:05.000But I'll tell you right now, I really wanted him to win.
02:12:10.000Obviously, you want to see your kid win, but we put in so much work leading up to it.
02:12:15.000And if the lesson was that the work didn't pay off, It's just, now it's another uphill battle.
02:12:20.000Like, I feel like him winning, and it's setting him up to, like, want to be a winner now.
02:12:25.000He's like, oh shit, I want that feeling right there, right?
02:12:27.000It felt way better to win than it felt to lose.
02:12:30.000And I feel like, you know, I'm glad that the kids that he went up against, they were at a similar level, because if they put him against some fucking wrestling stud, like they did in Nogi, he would've gotten fucking his ass kicked.
02:15:35.000Yeah, I need some sort of like peripheral goal, you know, where the being in shape is like almost a side benefit of it because just being in shape I'm in a relationship.
02:16:14.000I mean, that is so huge about that sport because it's so multifaceted.
02:16:21.000And literally, the more you know, the better you are at it.
02:16:25.000It's like not that much dependent on physical strength.
02:16:28.000Physical strength is only one aspect of it.
02:16:30.000There's people that are way weaker than me that are way better than me.
02:16:33.000Well, there's also like, it's so customizable for body types, your mentality, like it just, there's just, you know, there's certain things that my body type, it just doesn't work for, right?
02:16:44.000And you adapt, you know, to whatever it is, and you can get really good, even if you're not a super athletic dude, you just see it.
02:16:50.000There's like a real fucking skinny, dweeby guy, and he's a fucking brown belt, and he's like, oh no, this guy will choke the fuck out of anybody in here.
02:17:34.000In the real world, people just fucking pile on top of you.
02:17:39.000And no one can really, if they're a smaller person, you're probably in a lot of trouble if someone's bigger and stronger than you in, like, a wild fisticuffs situation.
02:17:52.000But in jujitsu, the smaller person really can defeat the larger unskilled person All the time.
02:18:13.000But, like, you know, like, every time, you know, I was reading some book, and it was just like, they were just talking about, like, if you get to your blue belt, you can literally, with your hands, murder Like, 90% of the people you encounter in life.
02:18:32.000Yeah, like, just, and that's like, you know, not that you want to murder people, but I'm saying, like, you, like, defend to the death, dude.
02:18:37.000And when you talk about martial arts, like, like, jujitsu is, like, you can choke somebody to death.
02:18:55.000You use it exactly the same way in training as you do on the street.
02:18:59.000So the problem with striking martial arts were, if you're sparring, particularly if you're sparring with your friends, you always pulled back.
02:19:07.000Like, you never tried to knock your friends out.
02:19:10.000You always, like, at least something pulled back.
02:19:57.000If you get good at jiu-jitsu, first of all, your physical worry about taking care of yourself diminishes somewhat.
02:20:04.000Because you're like, oh, I'm more confident with people than I ever thought I was before because I'm not really worried about people who beat me up.
02:20:10.000And then on top of that, you're training a lot so that you're always like...
02:20:15.000Just fuckin' squeezing those demons out.
02:20:19.000You know, for a lot of people, it's like, that's what's holding them.
02:20:22.000But their body is like this overflowing battery of anxiety and energy that's not being met and fuckin' needs that aren't being fed and shitty food.
02:20:52.000We're talking so much about being on our phones, right?
02:20:55.000When you're working out, you have to ignore your phone.
02:20:58.000There's no fucking looking at your cell phone when you're training, right?
02:21:01.000And you have just a little bit of time each day where you're thinking about yourself, whether it's even just being in the moment and doing jiu-jitsu and trying to get better, but you're just genuinely trying to better yourself.
02:21:11.000All bullshit aside, you're there to better yourself physically, mentally.
02:21:15.000That is a really healthy thing that people should be doing In some capacity, every day, they should be putting the bullshit away.
02:23:39.000I'm watching the clock, which I'm just staring at that clock, which I think is not good.
02:23:44.000I like to turn on some music, just sort of get in my head, think about what's ever going on in my life, and just try to work out some shit and just fucking go.
02:25:24.000Yeah, I don't do many of those, those nice easy ones.
02:25:27.000I do long ones because when I do kettlebells, generally I subscribe to the idea that more reps over a longer period of time is better than less reps over a shorter period of time if you're just trying to get strength and not muscle endurance.
02:25:45.000So I follow this guy, Pavel Tatsilin, who's like the godfather of kettlebells in America.
02:26:14.000So you did ten reps, but you did them all like you're learning something.
02:26:19.000And he said strength is a skill, and you don't want to do a skill when you're tired.
02:26:23.000And when you're learning how to control large heavy weights, you shouldn't get it to the point where your muscles are failing.
02:26:31.000And so he's like, his philosophy, and this is a Russian sport philosophy, and they had some fucking geniuses over there training their athletes.
02:26:40.000They figured out that if you just get the same reps, like say instead of doing two sets of ten, you're better off doing four sets of five.