The Joe Rogan Experience - September 07, 2023


Joe Rogan Experience #2032 - BJ Penn & Tulsi Gabbard


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 25 minutes

Words per Minute

167.72305

Word Count

24,468

Sentence Count

1,947

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience: The Fight Companion, Joe and Sam discuss the Kennedy Assassination and the conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr. on November 22, 1963. The conspiracy theories range from the possibility that it was an accident, to a cover-up, to an assassination attempt, to something even more sinister, to the idea that the President was murdered by the CIA, and that the whole thing was actually an inside job. What do you think of conspiracy theories? Do you think they re real or fake? Is there any truth behind them? Or are they just crazy conspiracy theories, or is there something more sinister going on than we know about it? Find out on Fight Companion! Subscribe to Fight Companion on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes or wherever else you get your stuff and don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our other shows: The Anthropology, The Root, and The Root. The Root is a podcast about the intersection of culture and technology, politics, pop culture, and pop culture. It's a place where everything you need to know about everything going on in the world and everything you care about! including the people who care about it! and everything that matters! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about what's going on around the world! Cheers, Cheers! -Joe Rogan and Sam! "The Fight Companion" - Fight Companion . Joe Rogans Podcast by Day, by Night Struck by Night, by Nightstalkers by Nightly, by the Fight Companion by the Nightly Crew by the Way by Eddie Bravo, Fight Companion (featuring Sam Tripoli, by Joe, Jr. and Night Stood by Night by the Firecracker by the Workaholics, and The Fighting God Podcast by the Fighting God Show by the Girl Squad by the Boy, by The Fighting Lady , by the Chook, by Eddie, and the Fighting Lady, by Eddy, Jr., by the Chewing on Saturday Night, and by the Good Morning Joe Podcast, by Mr. , and by The Chewing On Tuesday Night, by Sam Tripoli. - by the Boys, by EJ Rogan & by the Girls, by Mrs. Eddie Bravo of Fight Companion - by Joe RogAN.


Transcript

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:05.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:10.000 Yep.
00:00:11.000 We're up.
00:00:12.000 Yeah, we're doing Fight Companion Saturday night.
00:00:14.000 Okay, yeah.
00:00:15.000 Fight Companion's fun.
00:00:16.000 It is.
00:00:17.000 Have a little whiskey, watch the fights, talk a little shit.
00:00:20.000 Eddie Bravo brings up some crazy conspiracies.
00:00:23.000 Every time.
00:00:24.000 This time, Eddie's out, so Sam Tripoli's in.
00:00:27.000 Right on.
00:00:28.000 He's even more deep into the world of conspiracies.
00:00:31.000 Wow.
00:00:31.000 And he's hilarious.
00:00:32.000 That'll be fun.
00:00:33.000 Conspiracy theory is the code name for spoiler alert.
00:00:38.000 Well, it was invented, the term conspiracy theory was invented after they conspired to kill the president.
00:00:46.000 I didn't know that.
00:00:48.000 Yeah, conspiracy theory, the term conspiracy theory started getting thrown around right around the time that Kennedy got assassinated.
00:00:56.000 Wow.
00:00:57.000 And it was directly because there were so many people that had all these theories.
00:01:01.000 There was all these stories about the shots from the grassy knoll.
00:01:05.000 And until Dick Gregory went on the Geraldo Rivera show, which I think was 11 years later?
00:01:14.000 What year was it that Dick Gregory went on Geraldo Rivera and showed the Zapruder footage?
00:01:21.000 Many years later.
00:01:22.000 At least eight years later.
00:01:24.000 After the assassination.
00:01:25.000 The Zapruder film came late, right?
00:01:28.000 But it was a different assassination attempt.
00:01:31.000 Oh, it was another assassination attempt.
00:01:33.000 Garfield.
00:01:34.000 Interesting.
00:01:35.000 Interesting.
00:01:36.000 In 1881. Interesting.
00:01:39.000 Oh conspiracy theorist.
00:01:42.000 Interesting.
00:01:42.000 When did the Zapruder film come out?
00:01:45.000 So they had the Zapruder film.
00:01:47.000 I think his name was Abraham Zapruder.
00:01:50.000 He was at the scene and he was filming the president as he was driving down and as he was driving down he caught the shots.
00:01:59.000 He caught the shot to the neck and he sees Kennedy holding his neck and then he sees the head go back into the left.
00:02:06.000 So 1975, okay, think about that.
00:02:09.000 The assassination was 63. What was in 63?
00:02:15.000 What was in 63?
00:02:16.000 In 63, Kennedy was assassinated.
00:02:17.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:02:18.000 Yes.
00:02:19.000 But the Supruder film was released by Dick Greger, who is a stand-up comedian.
00:02:24.000 Wow.
00:02:25.000 Dick Greger brought it to the Geraldo Rivera show with this other gentleman, and then they played it for America.
00:02:31.000 And the whole country got to see Kennedy's head go back into the left, and this spray of blood.
00:02:37.000 And everybody's like, Wait, what?
00:02:40.000 What happened?
00:02:42.000 What happened?
00:02:42.000 Did they ever say why it took so long?
00:02:44.000 Because it's fake.
00:02:45.000 No.
00:02:46.000 Because it was owned by Life.
00:02:50.000 So I believe what happened was Zapruder sold it to Life.
00:02:55.000 Life had it and they wouldn't release it.
00:02:58.000 So either they thought it was too disturbing or...
00:03:01.000 Maybe they were told not to.
00:03:03.000 We also have to remember that back then there was no VCRs.
00:03:07.000 It's very hard to watch something like this.
00:03:09.000 You'd have to have one of those reel-to-reel cameras.
00:03:13.000 That you could set up and watch.
00:03:15.000 Nobody watched films at home.
00:03:17.000 You watched what was on television back then.
00:03:19.000 So when they played that, this was monumental.
00:03:23.000 And then you had to be there to see it.
00:03:25.000 You couldn't just pause it.
00:03:27.000 You couldn't rewind it.
00:03:28.000 There was none of that.
00:03:29.000 No DVR. And you couldn't tell your friends on social media.
00:03:33.000 You had to go to work the next day and go, did you see that Geraldo Rivera show?
00:03:38.000 By the way, I think it was on Late at Night, too.
00:03:42.000 Good morning or good night?
00:03:44.000 I think it's a late night show.
00:03:49.000 Is that what blew Geraldo up?
00:03:52.000 No, Gerardo was already doing well.
00:03:54.000 He was already an established journalist, which is why he was the host of that show.
00:03:58.000 And I think it was late at night.
00:04:01.000 So fucking nobody was watching.
00:04:02.000 You know, like a small amount of people watching.
00:04:05.000 And then, you know, they play this, they see it once, they go, what the fuck did I just see?
00:04:09.000 And then it takes forever for books to come out.
00:04:12.000 And now you got Tucker Carlson on Fox News saying the CIA killed Kennedy.
00:04:18.000 And you're like, what did he just say?
00:04:19.000 Yeah.
00:04:20.000 What?
00:04:21.000 Did he just say that on TV? Like what?
00:04:24.000 Yeah.
00:04:25.000 Imagine how long it took for somebody to find out who the president was before the telegraph type thing.
00:04:32.000 Oh yeah.
00:04:33.000 Two years?
00:04:35.000 Now, imagine those elections.
00:04:38.000 Oh my god, right.
00:04:38.000 The checks and balances.
00:04:40.000 Right, right.
00:04:41.000 Like when Washington.
00:04:42.000 Imagine if we found out that Washington stole the election.
00:04:46.000 It's funny, right?
00:04:47.000 It is funny.
00:04:50.000 What if we found out Lincoln was a total fraud?
00:04:52.000 They all stole the election.
00:04:54.000 Like, what?
00:04:56.000 Had people assassinated that voted incorrectly.
00:04:59.000 It's amazing.
00:05:00.000 But Lincoln ran and lost like five times or something, right?
00:05:03.000 Before he won.
00:05:04.000 I don't remember if it was for president or when he ran for a different office, but...
00:05:08.000 Back then they would stand in front of the whole town, like on a literal soapbox, and talk for hours.
00:05:15.000 Yeah.
00:05:16.000 Hours and hours in front of everybody.
00:05:17.000 Yeah.
00:05:18.000 Explaining what they were going to do.
00:05:19.000 Yeah.
00:05:19.000 Amazing.
00:05:21.000 So you've got to imagine that when this Zapruder film came out, that was a moment where, like, you've got to also realize this is like during the time of the Vietnam War.
00:05:32.000 So there's already massive distrust in government.
00:05:35.000 And people are like, you know, what happened exactly?
00:05:39.000 And then the books start coming out.
00:05:41.000 You know, books start coming out like Best Evidence by David Lifton.
00:05:44.000 Twelve years later.
00:05:45.000 Twelve years.
00:05:47.000 But the CIA saw it.
00:05:49.000 I'm sure.
00:05:50.000 They were there.
00:05:52.000 It wasn't until Dick Gregory, a stand-up comedian, brings it to the Geraldo Rivera show.
00:06:00.000 Incredible.
00:06:01.000 That's amazing.
00:06:03.000 I thought it was two years it came out, two years late, but wow, 12 years.
00:06:07.000 12 years.
00:06:08.000 So 75. Just imagine something that happened 12 years ago for us.
00:06:15.000 What?
00:06:16.000 2011?
00:06:17.000 Which, by the way, that sounds crazy.
00:06:19.000 It does.
00:06:20.000 That's great.
00:06:20.000 That is crazy.
00:06:21.000 What the fuck is happening?
00:06:23.000 Time is flying.
00:06:25.000 Too fast.
00:06:26.000 And what a world we live in now, where even if the government tried to withhold information, or tries to, as they do, with social media and all these different platforms, it's very, very hard.
00:06:41.000 It's very, very hard.
00:06:42.000 So they try to push a narrative and then different people have questions and it creates this environment where if the truth is not being told, people can pick up on it.
00:06:54.000 The new mayor in Maui Because I was surprised he got in because Victorino was so loyal, kept the pandemic on.
00:07:04.000 He even did that where you got to reset your vaccination status or whatever.
00:07:09.000 But when I saw Bisson in, he's so smart.
00:07:12.000 I mean, they're talking, they're like, what about social media?
00:07:14.000 He just, being a judge, right?
00:07:16.000 Or he just looks over and says, I don't got time for that stuff.
00:07:19.000 And looks for it, you know?
00:07:21.000 It's just, they're really smart speakers and...
00:07:25.000 They know what they're doing out there, right?
00:07:27.000 The people in office, you know?
00:07:29.000 Well, I mean, Tulsi can speak to that better than anybody.
00:07:32.000 I don't know Mayor Bis.
00:07:35.000 I may have met him in passing, but this has been one of the big failures around the aftermath of the wildfire on Maui, is this total vacuum of information from government officials to the people.
00:07:50.000 And in that vacuum, obviously people have all kinds of ideas or theories or this or that, but people were left without any kind of communication from anyone in a position of authority to provide help for days and weeks.
00:08:04.000 And it created massive problems.
00:08:06.000 And so, you know...
00:08:09.000 The immediate line of response needed to come from the county and from the mayor and from their emergency response director.
00:08:16.000 And unfortunately, they did not communicate.
00:08:19.000 They're still not communicating.
00:08:20.000 There's still a huge lack of transparency, and therefore an increasing level of distrust.
00:08:28.000 In any of the levels of government that should be bending over backwards to answer questions and to say, hey, here's what's going on every single day.
00:08:36.000 Here's what we're doing.
00:08:37.000 Here's what we're trying to do.
00:08:38.000 Here's what we're having a hard time doing.
00:08:39.000 Whatever the case may be, it's been a major problem from the beginning.
00:08:46.000 Do you think that this is because of a complete lack of preparedness, that this is an unprecedented type of disaster, never happened before, It happens, and they just weren't prepared.
00:08:56.000 They don't know what to do.
00:08:58.000 It's incompetence?
00:08:59.000 I think that is very true.
00:09:03.000 In hindsight, there are things going back.
00:09:07.000 Maui has experienced drought year after year after year.
00:09:10.000 Brush fires are a common occurrence, especially on the west side of Maui, where Lahaina is, the side of the island that was most impacted by this.
00:09:20.000 You know, it is, you know, being prepared for wildfires on Maui is something that if you look at their, you know, emergency assessment documents, it's mentioned almost as a bit of an afterthought.
00:09:33.000 Maui fire has been vastly undermanned and under-resourced for quite some time.
00:09:39.000 So there's all these different things you can look at from a preparedness level that should have been addressed long before.
00:09:44.000 But from, you know, the county officials, yes, they were completely overwhelmed and unprepared for this unprecedented wildfire.
00:09:57.000 It's the worst wildfire our country has seen in over 100 years.
00:10:01.000 But the problem is, once you get to that point like, oh shit, this is really, really, really bad, not only in the hundreds of lives lost in that fire, but the surrounding communities of people who survived,
00:10:18.000 but who went without power, who went without any cell phone signal, any ability to communicate with people, who didn't have, you know, all of the gas stations in their They were empty.
00:10:27.000 There was no way to get gas.
00:10:29.000 They couldn't get food.
00:10:30.000 They couldn't get clean water.
00:10:31.000 The water supply systems were contaminated.
00:10:34.000 I mean, there was disaster upon disaster that came in the aftermath of the fire that went unaddressed.
00:10:41.000 I went there a few days after the fire happened.
00:10:46.000 Maui was my district for eight years when I served in Congress and had a lot of friends there and went out to those affected areas.
00:10:53.000 What I heard over and over again was no one from the county, the state, or the federal government has shown their face in our community.
00:11:02.000 It is neighbors helping neighbors, families helping families, people on the island of Molokai, which you know, they don't have much.
00:11:12.000 Everything comes in by barge.
00:11:14.000 They're loading up whatever they have in their general store on these little boats and running them over to West Maui on a private boat dock because that was the only place that they wouldn't be blocked from bringing food and water and medical supplies.
00:11:27.000 Now, why are people being blocked?
00:11:29.000 I keep hearing that about people being blocked.
00:11:32.000 Is it because they haven't gotten an accurate death count?
00:11:34.000 Is it because they have to make an assessment of how much was damaged and it's so massive, it's so vast that they haven't been able to do that yet?
00:11:42.000 Like, why is it being blocked?
00:11:43.000 Things are being opened up now.
00:11:46.000 I think people are able to get in and out of the West Maui area.
00:11:49.000 I understand that the historic town of Lahaina is still being blocked off and they're working on reopening it.
00:11:58.000 As we speak, but in the couple of weeks after the fire, I don't have a good answer why they continue to block the roads, again, to those surrounding communities, why they blocked people like Kai Lenny and others from using their jet skis and boats to try to bring supplies in through the water.
00:12:21.000 You could say, well, we were trying to secure the area, but you're blocking friends and family from coming in and bringing necessary supplies, literally doing supply runs.
00:12:33.000 I jumped on a plane that was doing supply runs from Kahului, the main airport on Maui, out to this tiny little airport that serves that community, and that was, for a lot of days, the only way that they could get supplies from I don't know.
00:12:51.000 I really don't know.
00:12:52.000 But again, this goes back to why aren't you communicating to people what's going on and why you're doing what you're doing?
00:12:59.000 The result of their decisions left people and families and communities stranded in their most dire time of need.
00:13:08.000 And the mayor didn't go out and show his face until almost two weeks after the fire happened.
00:13:12.000 That's insane.
00:13:13.000 It's crazy.
00:13:14.000 And then says he wants to take the land for the state.
00:13:17.000 That's his first word.
00:13:18.000 Now this is one of the reasons why we wanted to talk about this.
00:13:22.000 How is that possible?
00:13:23.000 That these people could lose their home and then lose their land?
00:13:27.000 How is that possible?
00:13:28.000 It is the number one concern of people there in Lahaina, is that a few days after this happened, I haven't spoken to the governor, That's so insane.
00:14:05.000 Now being told, well, the state, the governor is looking at taking that land, taking ownership of that land, that it is unconscionable.
00:14:17.000 And there's, oh, you know, we'll, you know, for those who've been displaced, we'll see about doing a land swap and we'll send you to the big island to live in Pune.
00:14:24.000 Jesus.
00:14:25.000 It's taking away the sovereignty of people's rights to have a say over their home, in many cases, their generational lands.
00:14:35.000 It is such an abuse of power.
00:14:39.000 I'm glad that there are leaders in the community who are leaning into this fight to make sure that they are fighting this fight before anybody tries to do that, rather than looking in the rearview mirror and saying, gosh, I wish we had done something.
00:14:54.000 But just imagine...
00:14:56.000 A governor going on television after a massive tragedy where you have, we don't even know the number of people dead yet.
00:15:05.000 You have this massive area that's been burned to the ground.
00:15:08.000 Yeah.
00:15:08.000 And then he starts talking about taking it over for the state.
00:15:11.000 That's an insane position to take.
00:15:13.000 It is.
00:15:14.000 Post tragedy.
00:15:15.000 When people are suffering at their most, they can't even believe it happened.
00:15:18.000 Yeah.
00:15:19.000 And then all of a sudden he's saying, we're going to take it for the state and make a memorial?
00:15:23.000 How about give the fucking people their homes back?
00:15:25.000 Exactly.
00:15:26.000 Exactly.
00:15:26.000 One of the things we went over yesterday, which is a crazy number, we were looking at the amount of money that was accidentally sent to Ukraine, like they over sent six billion.
00:15:37.000 And then I said, well, how much would it cost to rebuild every house?
00:15:41.000 In the Maui Fire.
00:15:42.000 And it's five billion.
00:15:43.000 Five billion something.
00:15:46.000 That's just like accidental money.
00:15:48.000 But there's no talk of doing that.
00:15:50.000 There's no talk of doing that.
00:15:51.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:15:53.000 And it's happened two or three times now where the Pentagon has said, oh, we miscalculated how much money we had set aside for Ukraine.
00:16:01.000 So we have an extra four billion to send now that we didn't know we had.
00:16:05.000 And this has happened a few times.
00:16:07.000 Secretary of State Tony Blinken went to Kyiv yesterday promising, hey, we're going to give you another billion now.
00:16:14.000 And this is the thing.
00:16:15.000 When I was out there in Maui, person after person was like, Tulsi, tell me what would happen if we started to call ourselves Ukraine.
00:16:25.000 You think they would give us some money then to take care of our families, to fix our roofs?
00:16:30.000 You know, that have been torn up by the hurricane winds that came through to make sure we have clean water to drink.
00:16:36.000 You think they might pay attention to us then?
00:16:38.000 And then FEMA comes out.
00:16:40.000 The FEMA director comes out and does this press conference.
00:16:42.000 I think it was at the White House.
00:16:44.000 And she says, someone said, well, what are you doing for Maui?
00:16:47.000 She's like, oh, we're giving a one-time $700 payment to everybody who's been impacted by the wildfire.
00:16:55.000 A one-time $700 payment.
00:16:57.000 It's insane.
00:16:58.000 Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the entire country.
00:17:01.000 The entire country.
00:17:03.000 And how freaking insulting is it to have the lead disaster response administrator from the Biden administration stand there and proudly say, hey, we're giving everybody one $700 payment.
00:17:17.000 It's insane.
00:17:18.000 And it's insane especially because of how much money we're sending to Ukraine.
00:17:23.000 Because there can be no doubt that these things are financially motivated now.
00:17:30.000 Someone is making money off the Ukraine thing and there's a reason why they're sending so much money.
00:17:35.000 They have so much concern.
00:17:36.000 Have we ever seen a real war?
00:17:39.000 I mean, when it first started, Putin came with a mile of tanks.
00:17:43.000 You would think the guy would be hanging in five days.
00:17:47.000 You know, their president, like when they went into Iraq and Saddam, and they got Saddam, you know, and they hung him in front of the world.
00:17:54.000 You would think that Russia would be able to do that.
00:17:57.000 Well, Ukraine is very well armed now.
00:18:00.000 You know, we sent them a lot of really good stuff, but they're losing a lot of soldiers.
00:18:04.000 And the other thing about when they invaded was it was at a time where the grounds were like essentially like marshy.
00:18:13.000 Like, they were concerned when it got colder, because then the trucks and the tanks could roll in on the dirt.
00:18:19.000 But they were only coming in on the roads, and the Ukrainians were ambushing them on the roads.
00:18:24.000 Well, you hear that Russia is a superpower, I mean, on par with the United States.
00:18:29.000 Well, they are.
00:18:30.000 We've always heard that, right?
00:18:30.000 They are, but they're just not using the full force of their might.
00:18:34.000 I think we've spent more in Ukraine than Russia has.
00:18:37.000 Wow.
00:18:39.000 That's crazy.
00:18:40.000 Find out if that's true.
00:18:41.000 I think that might be true.
00:18:42.000 One of the other things was our intelligence, the United States intelligence agencies, in the lead-up as Russia was building up their manning and tanks and everything at the border, our intelligence agencies were telling the president, telling the public that, you know,
00:18:57.000 hey, what did they say?
00:18:58.000 Like, they will take Kiev in days, like in a few days, that Russia will take the capital of Ukraine.
00:19:06.000 But even their intelligence proved to be vastly wrong.
00:19:11.000 Very, very wrong.
00:19:13.000 And this is why people use this fear tactic to justify sending all of these hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine.
00:19:21.000 They say, well, if we don't do this, Russia's going to take all of Ukraine and then take over all of Europe.
00:19:26.000 It's like, no.
00:19:28.000 They don't have that capability.
00:19:30.000 You're fear-mongering in order to continue to fund Ukraine.
00:19:33.000 A war that's benefiting the military-industrial complex more than anyone else.
00:19:38.000 There you go.
00:19:38.000 That's what it looks like, just another one of those 20-year wars.
00:19:42.000 Is this going to be 20 years, you know?
00:19:43.000 Real similar to what we just got out of it.
00:19:45.000 And if you're looking at that in relation to, like, what's going on in Hawaii, it shows what's wrong with the world.
00:19:53.000 And the fucked-up priorities, frankly.
00:19:56.000 It is when you look at, you know, President Biden and his people announced like, oh, hey, look, he's going to take a break from his vacation at Lake Tahoe to go and visit the people.
00:20:08.000 What a good guy.
00:20:09.000 Exactly.
00:20:10.000 Did you see when he went there and he started talking about a fire that he had who almost lost his car?
00:20:13.000 Yeah.
00:20:14.000 Yeah.
00:20:14.000 I know what a fire is like.
00:20:15.000 I almost lost my car once.
00:20:17.000 Yeah.
00:20:17.000 That is funny.
00:20:18.000 It's like they do that on purpose.
00:20:20.000 They have him just babble something.
00:20:22.000 They can't stop him.
00:20:24.000 He is the president.
00:20:25.000 They are a bunch of dopes who work for him.
00:20:27.000 The smartest one is probably that White House press secretary.
00:20:30.000 When that's your ace in the hole, you got a fucking entire administration.
00:20:36.000 Think about that one guy that got busted because he was stealing women's clothes at the airport.
00:20:42.000 He's our first non-binary person in the White House.
00:20:45.000 Fantastic.
00:20:46.000 And this dude just stealing ladies clothes.
00:20:48.000 Not once.
00:20:49.000 Not an accident.
00:20:50.000 Just that's his thing.
00:20:51.000 Steals people's bags.
00:20:53.000 Puts in their clothes.
00:20:53.000 Dresses up like them.
00:20:55.000 Brought their stuff to a hotel.
00:20:57.000 Threw out some of it.
00:20:58.000 Kept other ones.
00:20:59.000 I thought it was my bag.
00:21:00.000 What are you gonna do?
00:21:01.000 That is funny.
00:21:02.000 Kooks!
00:21:03.000 Full of kooks.
00:21:04.000 And so there's no one running the show.
00:21:06.000 The show's chaos.
00:21:08.000 And then the people that are involved, I'm sure, in the defense industry are like, listen, it'd be very nice if we could continue this project and continue funding.
00:21:17.000 I mean, watching Green and even watching Hilo's own mayor, Mitch Roth, I mean, it really seems and feels...
00:21:24.000 Like the campaign is while they're signing these bills, this next bill that they signed that's going to do whatever, that's going to take Lahaina.
00:21:32.000 That's him trying to get to the president.
00:21:34.000 That's Josh Green trying to move up to the president.
00:21:37.000 Well, they care about themselves.
00:21:39.000 That's what it comes down to.
00:21:40.000 Political entrepreneurs.
00:21:41.000 And they're involved in a game.
00:21:42.000 The game is, like, if you're playing chess, you have to abide by the Chess Federation's rules.
00:21:48.000 You play a certain a lot of time.
00:21:50.000 You know what to do.
00:21:51.000 You don't piss anybody off.
00:21:52.000 You don't break the rules.
00:21:54.000 You signed this bill.
00:21:55.000 Yeah, this is the game you're playing.
00:21:56.000 And everybody wants to get better at their game, right?
00:21:59.000 If you start off and you're a white belt, you want to go, I'm good.
00:22:02.000 I like being a white belt.
00:22:03.000 No, you want to be a black belt.
00:22:04.000 If you start off and you're the mayor of a small city, you're like, you know, I'd like to be the fucking governor one day.
00:22:09.000 And then next thing you're moving around and moving up and hobnobbing with the right people and signing the right bills and making the right people happy and, hey, welcome our new governor.
00:22:19.000 And then the governor's like, you know, I like to run the whole motherfucker.
00:22:22.000 And then, you know, and then that guy starts doing things that what we've done with California's take the tech sector and the finances.
00:22:30.000 We're number one economy in the country and oh, I see what's going on.
00:22:35.000 You want to win.
00:22:36.000 You want to win.
00:22:37.000 It's a game.
00:22:37.000 It's a game like all games.
00:22:39.000 You want to be the top dog in the game.
00:22:40.000 It's natural.
00:22:41.000 If you're racing, you want to be the one that gets there when the flag goes off.
00:22:44.000 That's just what human beings do.
00:22:46.000 And when you apply human beings to a game that's governing citizens, Scary.
00:22:53.000 I mean, this is why our country is...
00:22:55.000 I mean, we are headed in the direction of going to hell in a handbasket because we have people in positions of power who treat it as though it is a game and the only ones who lose are the people.
00:23:07.000 It's the American people.
00:23:07.000 It's the people on Maui.
00:23:09.000 It's the people who have extreme needs and challenges who are being failed at every step of the way.
00:23:16.000 And it's because they can get away with it.
00:23:18.000 Here's a thing that people forgot about.
00:23:20.000 Ready?
00:23:21.000 East Palestine.
00:23:22.000 Remember?
00:23:23.000 That wasn't that long ago.
00:23:24.000 That was not that long ago that these people were living in toxic soup.
00:23:28.000 Everybody's completely forgotten about them.
00:23:30.000 There's no stories on TV. There's no stories in the newspaper.
00:23:34.000 What about that community of people that experienced an insane experience?
00:23:38.000 A train derails with toxic chemicals and they decide to light it all on fire.
00:23:43.000 And fish are fucking floating in the rivers.
00:23:45.000 The skies are black.
00:23:50.000 So President Biden was asked about this the other day by a reporter who said...
00:23:54.000 Oh, good.
00:23:56.000 The president will go to East Palestine.
00:23:57.000 Oh, he will.
00:23:58.000 Jean-Pierre, that lady.
00:24:00.000 She's hilarious.
00:24:02.000 Oh, my God.
00:24:03.000 The way he responded to the reporter who asked is, they said, oh, it's been 200 and however many days since the disaster in East Palestine.
00:24:10.000 You promised that you would go there.
00:24:13.000 You haven't gone yet.
00:24:14.000 Why?
00:24:15.000 And the president basically said, well, I haven't had time.
00:24:19.000 Wow.
00:24:20.000 When I went to East Palestine, I got involved with politics in Hawaii in the first place because of water protecting the environment, making sure we have clean water.
00:24:32.000 And so the challenges people on Maui are facing with water The challenges people in East Palestine are facing, it was such a huge toxic disaster.
00:24:40.000 But when I was there, they were saying that the effects of this disaster won't fully be known for a while because the toxins at that time hadn't had...
00:24:49.000 They were being told the water's clean.
00:24:50.000 It's fine.
00:24:51.000 It's safe.
00:24:52.000 In the days after the disaster in East Palestine, people there are smart enough to know, well, the water hasn't seeped down through the soil and into our groundwater sources for those tests to be accurate.
00:25:05.000 And so they were concerned not only about, well, how are you going to come back and test our water in a month, in two months, in six months, in a year?
00:25:13.000 How is that?
00:25:13.000 It's a farming community out there.
00:25:15.000 How is that going to affect the crops?
00:25:18.000 They were already seeing animals dying in the weeks after that disaster happened.
00:25:23.000 And that was their foremost concern is nobody ever heard the name East Palestine before this disaster happened.
00:25:29.000 Will they still remember us when we need them?
00:25:32.000 And what about what's happening with their lungs?
00:25:34.000 Right.
00:25:35.000 Those people were breathing that air, and they were told it was safe to go back.
00:25:39.000 And they were taking photos of the sky, and when it rains, that stuff stays in the clouds, and then when it rains, more comes down.
00:25:47.000 Acid rain.
00:25:50.000 And then, you know, where's their money when they're accidentally sending an extra six billion to Ukraine?
00:25:56.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:25:59.000 It's just blatant and in your face that there's no concern about you.
00:26:04.000 The concern is about, you know, whatever the agenda is.
00:26:08.000 That's the concern.
00:26:09.000 And if the American people want the guy to go there and give a little speech and talk about, I was almost on fire once, they'll go do it.
00:26:16.000 That's it.
00:26:17.000 That's all you get.
00:26:18.000 And you get 700 bucks each.
00:26:20.000 And Ukraine gets an extra six billion.
00:26:23.000 This is an extra six billion.
00:26:25.000 What's the amount of money they spent so far in Ukraine?
00:26:30.000 Let's guess.
00:26:31.000 Tulsa, you'd be the best at this.
00:26:32.000 It's well, well over a hundred billion dollars.
00:26:37.000 They divvy it up.
00:26:38.000 When you look at the count, sometimes they say, well, it's this much has gone towards weapons.
00:26:42.000 But like, you know, like, you know, the money we are giving to you that our government is giving to Ukraine is not only going to weapons.
00:26:49.000 We are paying.
00:26:51.000 We taxpayers are paying for their bureaucracy.
00:26:53.000 We are paying for their administrators.
00:26:55.000 We are paying to 135 billion.
00:26:59.000 Wow.
00:27:00.000 Yeah, the president is asking for another 24. Now is that August 15th?
00:27:06.000 When was the fire?
00:27:07.000 August 8th.
00:27:09.000 So this is after the fire.
00:27:12.000 He's asking Congress for 24 billion dollars for the war in Ukraine and zero dollars for Maui.
00:27:17.000 And 10% for the big guy.
00:27:20.000 You'd have to think that.
00:27:22.000 It's easier to track the money when you bring it to Hawaii because all of our eyes are on the ball.
00:27:27.000 I don't even think he can be corrupt anymore.
00:27:30.000 I think he's just living.
00:27:32.000 He's just eating ice cream and just waiting for the ticker to stop.
00:27:35.000 But this is insanity.
00:27:37.000 This is like true insanity.
00:27:39.000 And this is like the opposite of what we...
00:27:42.000 The whole idea of electing people for office is that these people are going to care about us and do the right thing for the community because they're one of us.
00:27:50.000 That's what we want.
00:27:51.000 That's what we want.
00:27:51.000 We want someone who's one of us.
00:27:53.000 And when you see that, especially from these guys like Biden that are these career politicians, they're the opposite of one of us.
00:28:01.000 They've been in that system forever.
00:28:03.000 They've been playing that game forever.
00:28:06.000 You know, the excuse that Pete Buttigieg was the guy that the Biden administration sent to East Palestine.
00:28:12.000 Of course, he showed up.
00:28:14.000 He announced he was going only when Trump announced that he was going.
00:28:18.000 He literally showed up there the day after Trump went and visited the people there.
00:28:22.000 You know, the excuse that he gave is a common excuse that's given by people in government when they don't show up for people is, well, you know, I didn't want to get in the way of the response.
00:28:34.000 You know, I'm busy doing things in my office to try to help, etc., etc.
00:28:40.000 But my point is, like, Joe, if a really good friend of yours or your child or someone in your family...
00:28:48.000 Was hurt for whatever reason, was in pain, was suffering.
00:28:53.000 Even if you are not in a personal position to be able to alleviate that pain and suffering, what's the first thing you do?
00:29:00.000 Go to them.
00:29:01.000 You show up.
00:29:02.000 Yeah.
00:29:03.000 And you say, I love you.
00:29:04.000 I care about you.
00:29:05.000 I'm here for you.
00:29:06.000 Tell me how I can help.
00:29:08.000 And this is what I heard from officials on Maui at every level.
00:29:12.000 The government is like, well, how do we know what they need?
00:29:16.000 How do we best help?
00:29:17.000 How do we best support?
00:29:18.000 You will not know unless you show up and say, I am here for you.
00:29:23.000 Tell me what you need.
00:29:25.000 Tell me how we can support you.
00:29:26.000 And even if the answer is, I don't know, you are there for them.
00:29:30.000 Yeah.
00:29:31.000 And that's what matters.
00:29:32.000 If you care, no one should have to tell you to do this.
00:29:37.000 How long did it take them to come down and finally...
00:29:42.000 I mean, I heard from people there that it was like day 10 or 11 that the mayor showed up.
00:29:47.000 That's a long time.
00:29:48.000 That's a long time.
00:29:49.000 Right?
00:29:49.000 The mayor, you live there.
00:29:51.000 Yeah.
00:29:52.000 It's insane.
00:29:53.000 It's insane.
00:29:54.000 It is inexcusable.
00:29:56.000 There's no...
00:29:58.000 He must have just been panicking.
00:29:59.000 Well, you'd have to think, I mean, you're the governor, you leave...
00:30:04.000 The first thing, you know a hurricane's coming.
00:30:06.000 Get your emergency team ready, right?
00:30:09.000 Why wasn't the emergency team ready to go?
00:30:12.000 Well, you know, the county, the head of emergency response for Maui County was on Oahu at a FEMA conference when this happened.
00:30:18.000 At a happy hour.
00:30:21.000 We all know you can get on a plane within 30 minutes to fly from Honolulu to Kahului and be there within an hour, hour and a half.
00:30:30.000 He didn't show up there until one or two days after.
00:30:33.000 And when the mayor was asked, a couple weeks after, a reporter said, who was directing the response?
00:30:41.000 Your emergency management guy was not there.
00:30:43.000 Who was the person making decisions in the hours after the wildfire?
00:30:50.000 The mayor said, I don't know.
00:30:52.000 I don't know.
00:30:53.000 And what about the guy sounding the alarm?
00:30:56.000 Now he resigns.
00:30:59.000 Does that mean he's not going to be criminally charged for criminal negligence?
00:31:03.000 I mean, you're talking a thousand people.
00:31:06.000 He, the guy who was on Oahu when the fires happened, he didn't show his face in public to the media or to the community until eight or nine days after the crisis.
00:31:19.000 The guy who should have been talking to the media every single day in the hours and days after.
00:31:24.000 He didn't show his face in public until day eight or nine.
00:31:27.000 And that was when he said that he didn't regret sounding the alarm system, which is a whole other, like his response made no sense whatsoever.
00:31:36.000 And then he resigned the day after.
00:31:38.000 Do you know him personally?
00:31:38.000 I don't.
00:31:38.000 What is the controversy about the alarm system?
00:31:40.000 So that was the question.
00:31:41.000 It was like, Hawaii has a state-of-the-art alarm system.
00:31:44.000 We are the most remote island chain in the world.
00:31:46.000 And as a result, natural disasters is kind of a part of life.
00:31:50.000 Tsunamis or hurricanes or flooding or whatever the case may be.
00:31:54.000 We have the best, right?
00:31:54.000 We're supposed to have the best.
00:31:56.000 We have the best.
00:31:56.000 They were not sounded.
00:31:58.000 Because of these fires.
00:32:00.000 And that was the number one question.
00:32:01.000 Why wouldn't you sound the alarm system?
00:32:04.000 We had to wait until eight or nine days after when he came out to this press conference and he was asked, do you regret not sounding the alarms?
00:32:12.000 Because they weren't broken.
00:32:13.000 They worked.
00:32:14.000 And he said, I don't regret it.
00:32:16.000 And the reason is because, he says, we have been trained as people, when we hear the alarm, we believe that a tsunami is coming.
00:32:26.000 And we have been trained to know that if a tsunami is coming, you head towards the hills.
00:32:30.000 You head away from the ocean and towards the mountains.
00:32:34.000 That is such bullshit.
00:32:35.000 Somebody told them that line.
00:32:37.000 That's the best line you can come with.
00:32:38.000 BJ, you know this because we all get the alarms on our phones.
00:32:42.000 Say, hey, there was an earthquake near Japan.
00:32:46.000 Tsunami may come to Hawaii in three days or four days.
00:32:50.000 Be aware.
00:32:50.000 And we got all of our geologists and all these people.
00:32:53.000 They're tracking this.
00:32:54.000 We have, like a tsunami doesn't pop up out of nowhere.
00:32:58.000 That's something that we have, so if that alarm sounds, and we haven't gotten that notice, there's something else.
00:33:05.000 And we would know, like this, there's something else.
00:33:07.000 There was smoke.
00:33:09.000 Couldn't they send an alarm to your phones and said there's a fire?
00:33:12.000 Yes.
00:33:13.000 Yes.
00:33:14.000 You know, I don't know if he was...
00:33:16.000 So what happened with the water?
00:33:18.000 There was also some controversy about the water not being utilized?
00:33:21.000 I think the power went down and then the water pumps went down.
00:33:27.000 So the power did go out for a little while.
00:33:30.000 According to the electric company, the power was restored and was not connected to the water release.
00:33:38.000 So you got this...
00:33:39.000 I mean, the short answer to the long history of water battles in Maui County is going back to the plantation days when corporations essentially took ownership of the water.
00:33:53.000 So, you know, the native Hawaiian system of the Ahupua is you have the mountains, rainfall comes.
00:34:01.000 Streams, you have this natural ecosystem of waterways that go from the top of the mountains out to the ocean.
00:34:07.000 And Hawaii's agriculture systems and wetlands and fish ponds, everything was built around that.
00:34:11.000 These corporations came in, took over, and literally took ownership of the water on Maui in many, not all of it, but most of it, and started diverting those streams so that the water fed directly into their lands,
00:34:28.000 plantations, And then ag land and then now very wealthy landowners, golf courses, resorts, etc.
00:34:36.000 But the effect of that was places like Lahaina that was traditionally a wetland.
00:34:42.000 It was called the Venice of Maui.
00:34:45.000 It was lush.
00:34:47.000 There were fish ponds and farms and all of this stuff.
00:34:50.000 Because of that water diversion, it's like a desert there now, which is why these wildfires keep happening.
00:34:56.000 And traditional farming communities and native Hawaiian lands were bled dry because the water was diverted to private corporations.
00:35:04.000 So fast forward to how did that impact the fires?
00:35:07.000 Sorry, what year did that happen?
00:35:13.000 The big five plantation owners that came in.
00:35:21.000 But the problem has compounded generation after generation after generation.
00:35:32.000 Firefighters didn't have access to water when they needed it to effectively try to fight these fires.
00:35:40.000 There was a hurricane winds, and so obviously it grew and spread like a blowtorch across the town of Lahaina.
00:35:46.000 But even in the other, you know, in upcountry Maui and Kula, when I went up and talked to some of the residents up there who also saw, I don't know, it was like almost 600 acres that were burned through.
00:36:01.000 Homes were burned down and they were trying to help each other.
00:36:04.000 Neighbors were trying to help each other because you see, okay, hey, there's fire starting.
00:36:07.000 Let's all get our hoses and turn on the water and try to do what we can until the firefighters get here.
00:36:12.000 They turned on their hoses and it was just like dribbles.
00:36:16.000 Yeah.
00:36:16.000 Dribbles of water.
00:36:18.000 And so literally they're going and like scooping water out of their toilet bowls and like, oh gosh, there's a little bit of water like from the last time it rained stuck in like our kid's bucket, like literally getting water from wherever, bottles of water trying to fight fires in their community to save people's homes.
00:36:37.000 And watching people dying while that's happening, watching children burn.
00:36:41.000 I was talking to my friend.
00:36:42.000 He was a big part of my campaign.
00:36:44.000 The last campaign, he said, hey, BJ, children, animals burning, you're trying to fight it with water that you don't have.
00:36:51.000 I mean, just so many coincidences, right?
00:36:55.000 And so there was a request that was put in to the state to divert the water so that it could be used to fight the fires.
00:37:05.000 And there was some kind of like six or eight hour delay before that decision was made.
00:37:12.000 And I don't know the answer yet as to what that delay was.
00:37:17.000 But the fact that the people of Maui don't have control over their own water is exactly the problem, both in this crisis, but on a daily basis.
00:37:33.000 Where families are told, hey, you know, countywide, there's a drought right now.
00:37:38.000 Everybody needs to conserve water.
00:37:40.000 You know, you got to be limited with don't wash your car and all this other stuff.
00:37:44.000 But meanwhile, they go and drive through one of these resorts and they see all the sprinklers off of the golf courses and they see no restrictions whatsoever in the hotels.
00:37:55.000 And it's no wonder why people there are like, what the What the heck is going on here?
00:37:59.000 You guys really only care about these resorts, but you don't actually care about the fact that a mother can't bathe her child because of the water restrictions.
00:38:13.000 It's insane.
00:38:14.000 It is.
00:38:14.000 It is literally the definition of insane.
00:38:17.000 It's always been like this?
00:38:18.000 It's always been like this.
00:38:19.000 These battles have been...
00:38:19.000 The golf course sends their fertilizers into the water then affecting the fish like Kona and different things.
00:38:29.000 God.
00:38:30.000 It's always been this.
00:38:31.000 And so this is the thing is like, so how do we solve this?
00:38:36.000 I mean, this has been a generations long battle for the right to water, which is the one thing that every living thing needs to survive.
00:38:45.000 Water.
00:38:46.000 And the people there are fighting for that right to their own water.
00:38:52.000 And this is big.
00:38:54.000 This is big on the Big Island, the whole Hamakoa Coast.
00:38:59.000 There are senators, state senators and everything, every day diverting these streams.
00:39:06.000 They're pretty good size.
00:39:07.000 We call them rivers, but I think the technical name, they're streams, you know, because I don't think there's too many rivers like Mississippi or nothing.
00:39:16.000 That's a river.
00:39:17.000 But we got maybe just on that Hamakua Coast, we got 70 rivers.
00:39:22.000 It's 50 miles, and they just keep diverting them on the top.
00:39:26.000 But even more eye-catching is when you're driving down the road, Hamakua Coast, the most beautiful green place in the world with 70 rivers.
00:39:34.000 I live right on there on Hamakua Coast, and you can't jump in the car without asking yourself...
00:39:40.000 How many trees, how many worthless, crappy trees can I count before I count one tree with food?
00:39:47.000 Not one tree with food.
00:39:48.000 And you can only sit there and think, that's not an accident.
00:39:52.000 That's not an accident that there's no food anywhere on this 50 miles that you would have to walk back to Hilo or walk all the way to Honoka City or Honoka Town to go get some food.
00:40:04.000 And, you know, it's a law actually in Hawaii that you cannot put any trees with fruit on it anywhere.
00:40:15.000 And it just makes you wonder.
00:40:17.000 It just makes you wonder that, you know, you can't put trees with fruit.
00:40:23.000 On public lands.
00:40:25.000 I didn't know that.
00:40:27.000 No, but that's everywhere.
00:40:30.000 But look over here.
00:40:31.000 Look at all the trees you see.
00:40:33.000 Why isn't there food?
00:40:35.000 Because they rather push stuff like social classes, stuff like the EBT card and these different things.
00:40:41.000 Why is there no food in any of the trees?
00:40:43.000 Just think about it in your head.
00:40:44.000 Take a drive down the road and say, today I'm going to count how many trees I count before I see one tree with food.
00:40:50.000 Will you see one tree with food?
00:40:52.000 You know, and that's what I've been talking about.
00:40:56.000 I mean, I talk about that all the time.
00:40:58.000 And it's, you know, it's to push these things.
00:41:02.000 It's almost like they start eradicating all the pigs, eradicating the cows, because you see them.
00:41:08.000 You see the wild cows, the wild pigs all the time on the big island.
00:41:11.000 And they start eradicating those things, and it's almost like, I'd hate to think that they were, it's like they want us to compete only for the food that comes in on the boat.
00:41:20.000 That's the only food they want, like the Hunger Games.
00:41:23.000 You guys, all 1.5 million of you are going to compete for the food on the boat.
00:41:28.000 Well, the wild pig thing is interesting, because the wild pig thing is big in Texas, too.
00:41:33.000 And it's really just about eradicating them because they destroy all the...
00:41:37.000 All the farmlands.
00:41:38.000 They destroy the crops.
00:41:40.000 And they make so many babies.
00:41:43.000 Pigs start their first litter at six months.
00:41:46.000 And then they'll have as many as 12 babies in a litter.
00:41:50.000 And they'll have three litters a year.
00:41:52.000 And they just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:41:55.000 And then they just start destroying crops.
00:41:57.000 It's like the same thing that I said when I was in Molokai when we were campaigning.
00:42:02.000 And I said, they say...
00:42:05.000 That you guys have a deer problem.
00:42:07.000 But how is unlimited food a problem?
00:42:09.000 I want to know.
00:42:10.000 How is unlimited food a problem?
00:42:12.000 And I understand you got to fence off or you do your different things or maybe they can corral all these animals and do different things with them.
00:42:20.000 But we have to start thinking of ways.
00:42:22.000 They talk about sustainability.
00:42:24.000 But the way they talk about sustainability, they want to do it with electric cities.
00:42:29.000 They want to make these electric cities.
00:42:31.000 They just passed it in Hilo.
00:42:33.000 And they said Hilo was one of the lucky people to pass one of these United Nations electric cities in Hilo.
00:42:40.000 But it makes me wonder, to the mayor who let it go, Mr. Roth, who I actually know personally, but are you the mayor of the UN or are we going to make our Hilo cities over here?
00:42:53.000 I mean, you hear all the time, in 1800, It took all the way to 1800 to get 1 billion people.
00:43:01.000 And in 1800, we started using coal and oil and fossil fuels.
00:43:05.000 And then we jumped to 200 people within that time.
00:43:09.000 So we jumped 7 billion within the time of 200 years, right?
00:43:13.000 So you'd have to just think, well, if Ige signed a bill that we can't burn coal anymore in Hawaii and...
00:43:25.000 And oil, we're still using gasoline, but they want to push these electric cities now with electric cars and all these things.
00:43:33.000 But you would just have to think, if oil and coal made this much people, what's this going to do?
00:43:40.000 Because we're not going to have enough electricity.
00:43:43.000 Or, you know, we're not there yet now.
00:43:45.000 Well, it's not just that.
00:43:46.000 What they're doing in Oregon.
00:43:48.000 You know what they're doing in Oregon?
00:43:49.000 They're making people, I think it's one other state too, they're going to have these GPS devices.
00:43:55.000 They attach to your electric car.
00:43:57.000 So it taxes you for the amount of electricity that you use.
00:44:01.000 Oh my gosh.
00:44:02.000 So for every mile that you go, you have to pay a certain carbon tax because electricity is being generated by something that generates carbon.
00:44:10.000 So the idea that this is supposed to be carbon-free is fucking stupid because you have oftentimes coal-powered electric plants that are firing up extra because so many people need electricity for their electric cars.
00:44:26.000 So you're putting more particulates in the air, you're putting more carbon in the air.
00:44:31.000 Bananas.
00:44:32.000 Isn't that why they say you should buy an electric car?
00:44:34.000 To put less carbon in the air?
00:44:36.000 And now they're going to tax you for it?
00:44:37.000 The whole thing is so crazy.
00:44:39.000 Like, you certainly do while you're driving.
00:44:41.000 Right.
00:44:41.000 While you're driving.
00:44:42.000 You personally, while you're driving, if you drive an electric car, you're not polluting.
00:44:46.000 But what did it take to make that car?
00:44:48.000 What did it take to get that car here if you bought it from another country?
00:44:51.000 I mean, just the amount that one of those giant ships that moves cars over from Germany Do you know how much fucking fuel those things burn?
00:45:01.000 It's insanity.
00:45:03.000 It's insanity.
00:45:04.000 Oh, and you get here, look, we're green.
00:45:05.000 Bitch, you aren't green.
00:45:07.000 What made that thing?
00:45:08.000 What if you got one from China?
00:45:10.000 What made that thing?
00:45:11.000 Yeah.
00:45:13.000 It's crazy.
00:45:14.000 I mean, how are all of these people going to stay warm?
00:45:19.000 What about their air conditioner?
00:45:21.000 I mean, do we have enough energy for these people?
00:45:23.000 But you'll be trapped.
00:45:24.000 You'll be trapped.
00:45:25.000 So if we had oil and...
00:45:28.000 And coal to bring us this far, does that mean we're just going to have to go this far now as far as the population?
00:45:34.000 Well, there's also this talk of 15-mile cities, right?
00:45:37.000 Yeah, tell me about those.
00:45:38.000 I don't know much about them.
00:45:39.000 The idea is that you'll essentially be contained.
00:45:41.000 That's what this city is.
00:45:42.000 You'll essentially be contained unless you get permission to leave.
00:45:46.000 That's true.
00:45:47.000 How are they going to put us in there?
00:45:49.000 The idea they're starting to roll out in Europe.
00:45:52.000 I think they've already implemented this somewhere.
00:45:55.000 Well, you would think, well, I'm just thinking about Lahaina when you're talking about this, because you would think, well, how are they going to put us on that land of these 15-minute cities?
00:46:03.000 But then you would think, well, how are they going to get us off our land?
00:46:06.000 But they just have.
00:46:07.000 In Lahaina, they just got these people off their land, and if you go...
00:46:10.000 Well, they're talking about it.
00:46:11.000 They haven't done it yet.
00:46:12.000 No, no, no.
00:46:13.000 They cannot go on their land now because there's an 80-year-old fella and his house burned down and his safe is in there and he wants to go check on his safe, but he can't get in.
00:46:25.000 He can't get in the property.
00:46:28.000 Right, but we're assuming eventually he can get in.
00:46:30.000 They haven't kicked the people off their land yet.
00:46:33.000 If FEMA doesn't steal his safe first or whoever is working or any workers and that kind of stuff, if everything doesn't disappear.
00:46:40.000 Right.
00:46:41.000 But it's just interesting.
00:46:42.000 You would think you would be able to go there and say, no, get off your trespassing.
00:46:46.000 I'm going to go on my land.
00:46:47.000 Right.
00:46:48.000 You would think, how can it be any different?
00:46:50.000 Right, there's no fire anymore.
00:46:51.000 How can it be any different?
00:46:52.000 It's impossible for these people to be keeping them off their land.
00:46:56.000 It's not a thing that you negotiate about.
00:46:58.000 It's not this or that.
00:47:00.000 No, that's your land.
00:47:01.000 Get off trespassing.
00:47:02.000 Trespassers will be shot.
00:47:04.000 Or whatever it is.
00:47:05.000 I mean, I understand not wanting tourists to go view it.
00:47:08.000 But if you can show identification, this is my land, they should let you right through.
00:47:14.000 100%.
00:47:14.000 Especially so far after.
00:47:16.000 Your safe is there.
00:47:17.000 You're an 80-year-old man.
00:47:18.000 You just want to see if your money's there.
00:47:20.000 I know an initial concern was the toxicity of what happened there.
00:47:27.000 But the reality is, with all of the recovery teams that have been going through there, all the federal officials, all of the government visitors that have gone there, There is no excuse why they can't tell this 80-year-old guy, hey, here's a mask that will protect you from breathing in all this crap.
00:47:47.000 Go to your land.
00:47:48.000 It is funny because as kids, we played in asbestos our whole lives.
00:47:52.000 We've cleaned it up thousands of times, put it in trash bags, jump.
00:47:56.000 It was on the ceilings before when we were kids, that white stuff.
00:47:59.000 And now nobody can...
00:48:01.000 I haven't heard of anybody with asbestos.
00:48:03.000 I mean...
00:48:03.000 I could be wrong, I just don't know who it is.
00:48:06.000 People got cancer from it, for sure.
00:48:08.000 It's very, very cancer-causing.
00:48:11.000 We literally used to play in that stuff.
00:48:13.000 We whacked it off the roof and all that.
00:48:16.000 Not good, though.
00:48:17.000 And we're still here.
00:48:19.000 Well, listen, there was lead paint in people's houses.
00:48:22.000 They had to remove that, too, because it was lowering kids' IQs.
00:48:24.000 What are those 15-minute scenes?
00:48:27.000 Yeah, I'm curious about that.
00:48:29.000 I've heard of it, but as I look it up, there's an article from Canada that says it's a little bit of a conspiracy theory.
00:48:36.000 Canada's a conspiracy theory.
00:48:38.000 Canada's literally a functioning conspiracy theory.
00:48:40.000 It's just a concept to bring things within 15 minutes.
00:48:43.000 Right, but isn't there something going on in a 15-minute city that they tried in the UK? Isn't there something along those lines?
00:48:50.000 Just Google that.
00:48:52.000 15-minute city in the UK. Just Google that.
00:48:56.000 15-minute city in the UK. 15-minute city.
00:49:00.000 I know what's going to come up, but I don't know what I'm looking for is what I'm saying.
00:49:03.000 Electric city or something, right?
00:49:06.000 I mean, they've talked about walkable communities for a long time.
00:49:09.000 15-minute hysteria.
00:49:12.000 That's from March?
00:49:13.000 Rather benign urban planning concept.
00:49:16.000 Yeah.
00:49:16.000 English city of Oxford.
00:49:18.000 Click that.
00:49:20.000 Yeah.
00:49:21.000 Okay.
00:49:22.000 An academic behind the hit urban...
00:49:24.000 The hit!
00:49:25.000 It's a hit, guys.
00:49:26.000 It's like fucking Saturday Night Fever.
00:49:29.000 It's a hit.
00:49:30.000 The hit urban planning concept slammed flat earthers.
00:49:35.000 Spreading fake news about livable cities.
00:49:37.000 Oh yeah, you're a flat earther if you don't want to be trapped in a 15-minute city.
00:49:43.000 Where's Kelly Slater when you need him?
00:49:44.000 So scroll down here.
00:49:46.000 Is Kelly Slater a flat earther?
00:49:47.000 He jokes around.
00:49:48.000 He just torches people all the time.
00:49:52.000 So, a rather benign urban planning concept is shaking up the English city of Oxford, sending thousands of people into the streets to protest what they say is a dystopian plan, take away their personal freedoms and lock them into their neighborhoods.
00:50:03.000 The concept of the 15-minute city, popularized by the Franco-Colombian academic Carlos Moreno, aims to make cities more livable by ensuring that all essential services, think schools, medical care, and shops, are within the distance of a short walk or bicycle ride.
00:50:18.000 Broadly, the idea is to cut down on long commutes and car emissions and improve people's quality of life, ensuring they have access to quality services where they live.
00:50:27.000 That's not the way it's being seen.
00:50:28.000 In Oxford, news of the City Council adopted a plan to embrace the 15-minute city model, prompted fierce backlash with local groups and public figures alleging that authorities plan to restrict residents to their immediate neighborhoods and strictly police their movements, which will happen eventually.
00:50:45.000 The idea that that won't happen eventually, particularly in the case of a pandemic or something where they can control people, this is not a fucking conspiracy theory.
00:50:56.000 The outrage has been fanned by popular right-wing media figures and politicians who seized on the issue as an outrageous example of government overreach.
00:51:04.000 If they do limit people to those places, that is exactly what people are terrified of.
00:51:10.000 If they embrace this concept and create this model and then somehow or another mandate that you stay inside that, that's fucking terrifying.
00:51:20.000 Which in the age of the COVID lockdowns is not...
00:51:23.000 There's no surprise that people are...
00:51:26.000 Well, you just by the guys calling the people that are talking about it flat earthers.
00:51:30.000 Hey, buddy.
00:51:30.000 No, they're not.
00:51:31.000 It's a spoiler alert.
00:51:32.000 Yeah.
00:51:33.000 Yeah.
00:51:35.000 It's interesting.
00:51:36.000 It makes you think.
00:51:38.000 Yeah, it does make you think.
00:51:39.000 Now look, if you wanted to make sure that people have all their goods and services very close to them so they could walk to, that's a great idea.
00:51:48.000 But the concept of somehow or another gating that or stopping people from going out or having checkpoints, That's what gets people concerned.
00:51:57.000 And they should be.
00:51:58.000 And cameras.
00:51:59.000 You would think the whole thing's gotta be camera.
00:52:01.000 They should be.
00:52:02.000 I mean, look what we went through with the flights in this country where, you know, you had to have a vaccine to even fly into this country as recently as very recently ago.
00:52:10.000 I mean, is it still the case?
00:52:12.000 Do you still have to be vaccinated to fly in?
00:52:13.000 I don't think so.
00:52:14.000 My friends just came from Australia and they said you do.
00:52:17.000 And it's going to start back up, right?
00:52:20.000 Aren't they doing the next pandemic?
00:52:21.000 They're talking about masks again.
00:52:23.000 The White House press secretary lady, she was just talking about the vaccines, the vaccines work.
00:52:28.000 Like, have a seat.
00:52:30.000 Have a seat.
00:52:31.000 They work how?
00:52:32.000 Did you see the Cleveland Clinic study that shows that the more vaccinated you are, the more likely you are to get COVID? It means that as of 12.01 a.m.
00:52:41.000 on May 12, 2023, non-citizen, non-immigrant air passengers no longer need to show proof.
00:52:47.000 So my friend, well, maybe they made you have proof in Australia to leave.
00:52:51.000 I don't know.
00:52:52.000 Maybe it's an Australian thing.
00:52:55.000 What does that mean non-citizen, non-immigrant?
00:52:59.000 Because if you come across the border, they just let you come in.
00:53:01.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:53:01.000 If you come across the border...
00:53:03.000 Okay, I got you.
00:53:03.000 I got you.
00:53:03.000 Or if you're on some kind of special place or something.
00:53:05.000 But if you all have a backpack and you're here legally, you don't have to be vaccinated.
00:53:09.000 American National.
00:53:10.000 Follow into your program.
00:53:12.000 Which Oregon thing?
00:53:13.000 The Oregon GPS thing for EV vehicles.
00:53:15.000 Yeah, but the idea is to tax people.
00:53:18.000 It's to tax them.
00:53:19.000 According to this, it's a way to supplement the people who are being taxed at the gas pump versus people who are not being taxed when they pump their EV cars.
00:53:28.000 Yeah, but you're still taxed.
00:53:30.000 I wonder who would volunteer to pay a few tax.
00:53:32.000 But the idea is they're setting up this eventual precedent where you're going to get taxed on the carbon that you use, period.
00:53:40.000 So you'll have some sort of an app, and we have to really fight against this.
00:53:45.000 You're going to have an app that shows your carbon footprint.
00:53:48.000 Now, what's really ironic is when you have guys like Bill Gates, who owns four private jets, just one of those jets in one day spews out more carbon than your car does in the whole fucking life you use.
00:54:02.000 And this guy is flying all over the place telling everybody that they're going to have to eat fake meat.
00:54:06.000 That's like the ultimate elitism when you look at people like Bill Gates, you look at people like John Kerry, who justify their own contradiction of their philosophy.
00:54:18.000 No, exactly.
00:54:19.000 When he got busted and he lied.
00:54:20.000 John Kerry, did you see that video?
00:54:22.000 What did he get busted for?
00:54:23.000 Well, because he was saying that I've never had a private jet.
00:54:26.000 I don't own a private jet.
00:54:27.000 Have you seen that?
00:54:28.000 Have you seen this?
00:54:29.000 You have to see this.
00:54:30.000 Jamie pulled that video up because it's hilarious.
00:54:34.000 He's just flat out lying.
00:54:37.000 Absolutely lying.
00:54:37.000 And they think we're so stupid that we're going to just buy their bold-faced lies.
00:54:43.000 Mr. Chairman, I'd like to enter into the record.
00:54:46.000 Article here from February 15th of 2023 that the John Kerry family private jet was sold shortly after accusations of climate hypocrisy.
00:54:58.000 Mr. Secretary, do you stand by that testimony that you've never owned or your family?
00:55:04.000 I personally...
00:55:06.000 My wife.
00:55:10.000 Not in a number of years, but I have flown on it, sure.
00:55:13.000 This article has not been inaccurate that your family owned a plane...
00:55:17.000 You flew on a plane.
00:55:19.000 Mr. Secretary, here's the...
00:55:22.000 This isn't some kind of partisan gotcha.
00:55:26.000 When we are asking Americans to make serious sacrifices as we transition for the common good, and your family and or yourself are flying around on private jets, that smacks of hypocrisy.
00:55:41.000 It actually hurts your cause.
00:55:43.000 Mr. Secretary, but I'll move on.
00:55:45.000 I just want to know from a record standpoint.
00:55:47.000 Sir, afford me the right, at least, to set the record straight here.
00:55:51.000 I do not fly on a private jet.
00:55:56.000 I do not fly.
00:55:58.000 I fly commercially on all of my responsibilities.
00:56:01.000 Have you flown on a private jet since you've taken this position?
00:56:02.000 Just let me do this first.
00:56:04.000 I have flown five times in the last two and a half years on Millair, which you also fly on.
00:56:11.000 And, or some of you who travel fly on, five times.
00:56:15.000 This is not the important part.
00:56:16.000 The important part, Jamie, is before this.
00:56:18.000 Pause it.
00:56:19.000 The important part is before this.
00:56:21.000 What does he say?
00:56:22.000 Where he's saying, I never owned a private jet.
00:56:25.000 I don't know.
00:56:25.000 You guys got to stop saying that.
00:56:27.000 See if you can find that.
00:56:28.000 He was very strong in his...
00:56:30.000 Because that's the more interesting part.
00:56:32.000 It's all special interest.
00:56:34.000 Everything.
00:56:35.000 Right?
00:56:35.000 I mean, the more you...
00:56:36.000 Self-interest, right?
00:56:37.000 I mean, it is.
00:56:38.000 Ultimately, it's about self-interest.
00:56:40.000 Yeah.
00:56:40.000 When he says that...
00:56:42.000 It's before he talks to this gentleman.
00:56:47.000 So it's hilarious.
00:56:49.000 It's hilarious because he just flat out lies and then he gets busted.
00:56:53.000 Yeah.
00:56:54.000 Oh, my wife owned a jet.
00:56:56.000 Oh, that person.
00:56:57.000 Oh, that lady.
00:56:58.000 So how do you come up against these guys?
00:57:00.000 Because that's the kind of people that are running for president and the kind of people that are running for governors.
00:57:06.000 What's the kind of people that are the vice president?
00:57:08.000 The president right now?
00:57:09.000 I mean, how do you battle these guys because you're a local girl, just like, grew up like me, and that's, you know, that's the kind of people we're up against, you know?
00:57:18.000 It's true.
00:57:18.000 I mean, the challenge is that it's not only them and their propaganda that they're spewing, is they have their tentacles and their propaganda arms out through the mainstream media and through, you know, some massive monopoly big tech corporations.
00:57:35.000 The beauty is that more and more, I mean, people are starting to see the truth.
00:57:40.000 They're starting to see through these politicians' lies and are actively looking for leaders who actually care about the people rather than these...
00:57:52.000 Political leaders and bureaucrats and others who are making their decisions based on keeping power, growing power, or taking care of themselves, family members, or their pocketbook, their own selfish interest.
00:58:05.000 Imagine where we would be right now if Elon didn't buy Twitter.
00:58:08.000 Oh, gosh.
00:58:09.000 Yeah.
00:58:10.000 Thank God.
00:58:11.000 None of the Twitter files would have been exposed.
00:58:15.000 No.
00:58:15.000 We would not have known.
00:58:16.000 And he just made a tweet yesterday about Facebook.
00:58:20.000 See if you can find the Facebook tweet, where he's talking about Facebook censoring people.
00:58:26.000 For ad revenue.
00:58:27.000 And limiting their post.
00:58:29.000 Even if what they're saying is true.
00:58:31.000 Which is where it gets really creepy.
00:58:33.000 Because it's one of the things that happened with Tucker Carlson.
00:58:37.000 They demoted his video.
00:58:39.000 So it was seen by approximately 50% less people.
00:58:42.000 They limited the reach.
00:58:44.000 And what he was saying was absolutely true.
00:58:46.000 Nothing he was saying is inaccurate.
00:58:47.000 And they got a note from the federal government that you need to do something about this to take it down.
00:58:52.000 They said, we can't take it down.
00:58:54.000 Because it's true.
00:58:55.000 They said, well, you need to demote it.
00:58:56.000 Here it is.
00:58:57.000 The Facebook caved to far-left pressure groups and now allows them to silently dictate policy in exchange for ad money.
00:59:04.000 I think that the big news that people should take away from what you just said, Joe, is the excuse that these corporations always give is like, hey, we're private companies, we can do whatever we want.
00:59:15.000 But the fact that we are now seeing more and more evidence that they are censoring people at the direction of people in the White House and people in the federal government or the FBI or other law enforcement agencies is the most chilling violation of our First Amendment rights.
00:59:31.000 So this says that the advertising boycott battering Facebook is unlike anything the social media giant has faced in 16-year history.
00:59:38.000 Three days in, 800 companies worldwide have pulled millions of dollars in advertising from the social network with brands from Coca-Cola to Ford to global conglomerate Unilever demanding that Facebook monitor hate speech more aggressively.
00:59:54.000 With pull-outs mounting the company's name constantly tied to racism and hate in the news coverage, CEO Mark Zuckerberg responded by live-streaming part of an employee meeting, one of the few things he's done in that company's history.
01:00:06.000 One of the few times he's done that, rather, in that company's history.
01:00:09.000 Then on Wednesday, Facebook's powerhouse policy and communications chief, former British Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, issued an open letter titled, Facebook does not benefit from hate, touting its efforts to police its content.
01:00:22.000 The boycott emerged as a crucial test for a company that has become a key player in American politics simply because of what it hosts and promotes on its site, which until recently had been vocally doubling down its commitment to keeping an open platform for user speech.
01:00:35.000 The thing about this, like, stop hate speech, like...
01:00:39.000 How much of that hate speech is really even people?
01:00:43.000 How much of that hate speech is troll farms?
01:00:46.000 19 of the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook were found to be run by Russian troll farms.
01:00:52.000 How much of this hate speech Is led even by our own government.
01:00:59.000 How much of this hate speech is fake and they use it so they can crack down on all kinds of speech?
01:01:07.000 Exactly.
01:01:08.000 And I think that's the thing right there is whether they use the term hate speech or misinformation or disinformation.
01:01:15.000 These have become labels that they slap on people on our accounts.
01:01:20.000 Right now on Instagram now for the last few months.
01:01:23.000 They've been shadowbanning me under the guise of disinformation.
01:01:29.000 How do you know you've been shadowbanning?
01:01:30.000 Because when people screenshot what they see when they try to follow my account or when they try to at mention me in a repost, they get this warning screen that comes up from Meta or from Instagram that says, are you sure you want to follow this person who has repeatedly been found to be spreading disinformation?
01:01:52.000 And I've gone through the things and looked at some of the examples of what Instagram has deemed to be disinformation.
01:02:00.000 Here it is right here.
01:02:01.000 Exactly.
01:02:02.000 The account has been repeatedly posted false information that was reviewed by independent – these fact checkers are independent, by the way.
01:02:09.000 Of course.
01:02:10.000 Independent fact checkers or went against our community guidelines.
01:02:12.000 Do you want to mention this account when you try to tag Tulsi Gabbard?
01:02:16.000 For the account holder, for me, they don't allow any means to appeal or provide counter evidence to these fact checkers.
01:02:24.000 Do they at least provide you what the posts are?
01:02:27.000 In the one example I'm thinking of is one where I cited the UN article, and it was an actual article reporting the UN statement essentially legitimizing pedophilia, saying that sex with minors shouldn't be demonized.
01:02:43.000 And I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember the exact article, but that was the statement.
01:02:46.000 And I posted a shot of the headline and the article, which was clearly cited, and the independent, quote-unquote, independent fact-checkers said, Said that I have misinterpreted the article.
01:03:01.000 And therefore that was, you know...
01:03:03.000 Can we see what that actual article says?
01:03:05.000 What does the actual article say?
01:03:07.000 Let me see if I can find it.
01:03:10.000 Jamie can probably find it.
01:03:11.000 It was a UN statement or policy that was passed.
01:03:18.000 Were they trying to use the term minor attracted people?
01:03:21.000 I don't know that they use that term, but they...
01:03:23.000 Isn't that insane?
01:03:25.000 Yeah.
01:03:25.000 That one's insane.
01:03:25.000 It is insane.
01:03:27.000 That's like saying a murderer is a murder-attracted person.
01:03:29.000 Yeah.
01:03:30.000 Someone attracted to killing people.
01:03:32.000 The criminals do more than us to take care of the pedophiles, and it's sad.
01:03:36.000 Right.
01:03:36.000 Once again, jail.
01:03:37.000 Criminals, yeah.
01:03:38.000 They do more than us.
01:03:39.000 We do nothing.
01:03:40.000 I don't know what I'm looking for again.
01:03:41.000 I have something, but I don't know.
01:03:42.000 I would look for, like, United Nations sex with minors.
01:03:49.000 This is from a few months ago.
01:03:53.000 They're not in the business of legalizing things, but they're in the business of advocating for policy changes.
01:04:01.000 And so the idea on their side was what?
01:04:04.000 To stop demonizing people that are attracted to minors?
01:04:07.000 Right.
01:04:08.000 That it should not be...
01:04:09.000 How scary is that?
01:04:11.000 Yeah.
01:04:11.000 That is so insane.
01:04:12.000 And every one of their policies is the kind of stuff that somebody like Governor Green follows.
01:04:17.000 He follows, I mean, from what I've seen.
01:04:19.000 But that's insane.
01:04:20.000 You know?
01:04:21.000 That's insane.
01:04:22.000 All the politicians...
01:04:25.000 It's like that's how you get to the next level.
01:04:27.000 You want to be the best.
01:04:29.000 You want to get to the next level.
01:04:30.000 Do what the UN is saying to do.
01:04:32.000 That's where all the money is.
01:04:33.000 The AP claim says.
01:04:35.000 Claim.
01:04:35.000 A new United Nations report calls for decriminalizing sexual activity between adults and minors.
01:04:40.000 AP's assessment false.
01:04:42.000 Report published in March by the International Commission of Jurists in collaboration with the UN's AIDS Agency called for enforcing minimum age of consent laws in a non-discriminatory manner.
01:04:52.000 It did not call for decriminalizing all sexual activity between minors and adults.
01:04:57.000 Spokesperson for the UN and the Commission confirmed the facts.
01:05:00.000 The claim began with an April 14 blog post entitled UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children, which cited specific passages of a document issued by the International Commission of Juris in March.
01:05:14.000 The claim quickly circulated across social media platforms, including on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok.
01:05:21.000 Is that it?
01:05:22.000 Does it show the actual, what actually the UN said?
01:05:25.000 It all shows on this website.
01:05:26.000 Oh, well that's not enough.
01:05:28.000 Which I think it's interesting.
01:05:29.000 I'm seeing a whole lot of parsing of words there.
01:05:31.000 Like the bridge, the bridge between it.
01:05:33.000 But I would like to know what they did say that would even...
01:05:36.000 Let's see it.
01:05:37.000 That would even allow people to believe...
01:05:40.000 That they said that.
01:05:41.000 That they said that.
01:05:41.000 That seems just insane as it is.
01:05:47.000 The problem with Googling this...
01:05:49.000 DuckDuckGo.
01:05:51.000 Yeah, you gotta go DuckDuckGo.
01:05:55.000 Try this in DuckDuckGo.
01:05:57.000 Well, it won't be curated, Jamie.
01:05:59.000 And that's what's important.
01:06:03.000 When you get to things that are curated, it gets me uncomfortable.
01:06:08.000 The very first things that come up at the same time.
01:06:10.000 Yes.
01:06:10.000 Well, that's good.
01:06:11.000 That means it's probably not true.
01:06:13.000 Let's find out if it is true.
01:06:14.000 Fact check, post misrepresents.
01:06:18.000 Okay, so scroll down to that one.
01:06:20.000 New UN report advocates for decriminalizing sex with minors.
01:06:24.000 So this is one of those websites.
01:06:26.000 This is from April 16th.
01:06:28.000 Okay.
01:06:29.000 What does it say?
01:06:32.000 Principle 16, titled, Consensual Sexual Conduct, reads, Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status may not be criminalized in any circumstances.
01:06:53.000 Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different sex, sexual relations, or consensual sex relations with or between trans, non-binary, or other gender diverse people, or outside marriage, whether premarital or extramarital,
01:07:09.000 may therefore never be criminalized.
01:07:11.000 With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner.
01:07:21.000 Enforcement may not be linked to the sex, gender of the participants, or age of consent to marriage.
01:07:27.000 Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law.
01:07:39.000 In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacities of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.
01:07:56.000 Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
01:08:15.000 Now, that, to me, could be interpreted as, like you say, that 16-year-old people should be allowed to have sex with other 16-year-old people.
01:08:24.000 Which doesn't necessarily, you know what I'm saying?
01:08:27.000 They're not saying older people are allowed to have sex with younger people.
01:08:34.000 Why not 10 years old?
01:08:36.000 According to this statement, why wouldn't that apply to someone who's 10 or however old saying, well, hey, it was consensual?
01:08:49.000 Does a 10-year-old have the ability to make that decision?
01:08:51.000 It says the laws should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.
01:09:04.000 The thing is, it's saying people under 18 engaging in sexual conduct.
01:09:11.000 It doesn't say them engaging in sexual conduct with people older than that.
01:09:17.000 If it did, then I would say, yeah, you're legalizing pedophilia.
01:09:23.000 But what I think you're doing is you're allowing people under 18 to have sex, which they're going to do anyway.
01:09:29.000 I guess here's the issue with this statement and why I raised it as a concern is...
01:09:37.000 It doesn't say, well, okay, as long as you have two kids under the age of 18, but above the age of whatever, 10 or 12, it's so vague as to say, well, why shouldn't a 12-year-old have that capacity to make their own autonomous decisions about consensual sex,
01:10:00.000 whether it's with a 17-year-old or a 20-year-old or a 40-year-old or a 60-year-old?
01:10:05.000 It says it shall not be criminalized.
01:10:08.000 So it could open the door for someone interpreting that and saying that sex with someone under 18 years of age isn't criminal anymore.
01:10:21.000 And this is the problem here, is it speaks to, I mean, we've seen over and over again, well, you know, from pedophiles, well, hey, she wanted it, or she agreed to it, or vice versa.
01:10:34.000 You know, teachers who are sexually abusing kids in their grade schools, middle schools, or whatever, saying, well, it was consensual for a teacher to have sex with their 13-year-old student.
01:10:44.000 Right.
01:10:45.000 Right.
01:10:46.000 But when you posted this, what did you...
01:10:48.000 I gotta find it.
01:10:49.000 See if you can find what you posted.
01:10:54.000 It's weird to make a law like that.
01:10:56.000 Like, what are you saying?
01:10:57.000 You're saying that young kids can have sex legally?
01:11:00.000 Is that what you're saying?
01:11:01.000 Like, I don't know what you're saying there.
01:11:03.000 Because, like, if they're saying that, you know, it shouldn't be a crime for 17 year olds to have sex with each other.
01:11:11.000 Okay.
01:11:12.000 I agree with that.
01:11:13.000 But if you're saying Other people can have sex with them.
01:11:17.000 Like, I think 18 is a good number.
01:11:20.000 18 is a good number.
01:11:21.000 It's a good legal, especially for men.
01:11:23.000 It's a good legal cutoff number.
01:11:26.000 When you start, if they're saying that you should be able to have sex with people who are minors, I would imagine it would be like way more laid out than that.
01:11:37.000 Which is basically what they're saying is that the capacity for anyone under the age of 18...
01:11:47.000 To make their own decisions.
01:11:49.000 Right.
01:11:50.000 To provide consent.
01:11:52.000 And that's where it just like, you know, you get into the whole power dynamic, again, of teachers and students or bosses.
01:11:57.000 You know, I mean, actually not bosses, but people who are in positions of authority or power.
01:12:03.000 How, you know...
01:12:04.000 Okay, yeah.
01:12:05.000 How does a 10-year-old or a 12-year-old have the capacity to make that decision for themselves or to see through this person who is an authority figure in their lives, who has somehow manipulated their minds to convince them that this is the right thing or this is the best thing or whatever?
01:12:22.000 And that statement...
01:12:26.000 About not allowing that to be criminalized and not recognizing the need to protect children.
01:12:36.000 The need to protect children.
01:12:38.000 And then you look at that statement within the context of what's happening across our country and the world where our kids are being sexualized in like kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade, shown these picture books that I've seen myself That are more sexually graphic than anything I've ever seen in my life that are targeted for middle school kids Yeah,
01:13:00.000 then you you match that with this policy statement coming from the UN and you see the danger here of the normalization of sexualizing our kids of the normalization of minor attracted people of People in positions of authority and there are leaked videos showing this saying hey These minor attracted people should be allowed to serve as teachers in our schools,
01:13:23.000 where they're in a position to, I mean, they are supposed to protect our kids in that position, and yet these minor, self-identified minor attracted people are in a position where they can very easily abuse that trust that parents place in them.
01:13:40.000 Act on their sick desire.
01:13:42.000 Are there any examples of minor identified people, identifying themselves as minor attracted people, teaching kids?
01:13:52.000 Yes.
01:13:52.000 I've seen TikTok videos of these people.
01:13:56.000 There was a leaked, like hidden, someone took with their iPhone video of like a, I don't know if it was a school meeting or a teacher meeting or whatever, of someone from the school saying, hey, you shouldn't be discriminating against someone because they're a minor attracted person.
01:14:13.000 What?
01:14:15.000 So someone who was working for the school, like in some sort of a capacity to make decisions, was justifying having someone who is a legitimate pedophile.
01:14:28.000 Yeah.
01:14:28.000 On staff.
01:14:29.000 And that's, you know, of course, they'll never use that term.
01:14:31.000 That's so crazy that that term, like, changing the terms changes what it is.
01:14:36.000 But that's the power of language, though.
01:14:39.000 Yeah.
01:14:39.000 That's bananas.
01:14:41.000 That is so insane that they would go with that.
01:14:44.000 Because I remember that was going on a few years ago and people rejected it.
01:14:47.000 Yeah.
01:14:48.000 Someone had made the term minor attracted persons and everybody blew up, left and right.
01:14:52.000 And now it's sort of like...
01:14:54.000 It's okay.
01:14:55.000 Yeah.
01:14:56.000 And that's why they call it a spelling, right?
01:14:59.000 Casting a spell.
01:15:02.000 It kind of is in this case.
01:15:05.000 Did you find out what you actually posted?
01:15:07.000 But I can see taking the right away from the parents, I mean, just being parents ourselves, right?
01:15:14.000 Taking the right away from parents and it...
01:15:19.000 Yeah.
01:15:20.000 Take it right away from parents.
01:15:21.000 That's the whole thing.
01:15:23.000 Here's what I said.
01:15:23.000 That's the whole thing.
01:15:24.000 In a taxpayer-funded campaign to push quote-unquote woke ideology onto the world, the UN is advocating for the decriminalization of adults having sex with children regardless of the child's age so long as the child quote-unquote consents.
01:15:40.000 At the very least, American taxpayers should not be underwriting the UN until it stops all promotion of pedophilia and sex trafficking.
01:15:50.000 And I posted a screenshot of an article from the Washington Free Beacon that says, headline, UN says minors can consent to sex, which is essentially the statement that you read.
01:16:02.000 And then it quotes, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual if, in fact, if not in law, the UN says.
01:16:14.000 Well, that way, if they said it that way, That sounds to me like an adult having sex with someone who's under 18 and that they can consent to that.
01:16:24.000 That sounds like what that says.
01:16:26.000 Now, why would anybody, with all the problems in the world, if you're really worried about climate change, you're really worried about Russia taking over Ukraine, why are you so concerned?
01:16:37.000 With young kids being able to consent to sex.
01:16:41.000 Right.
01:16:42.000 That seems insane.
01:16:43.000 And here's what one of the...
01:16:45.000 The whole agenda, this last...
01:16:47.000 But it's like, are you just trying to destroy people's faith in life?
01:16:51.000 I mean, if I really wanted to go full tinfoil hat, you know, Yuri Bezmenov, like, conspiracy from 1984, where he was describing how the breakdown of American...
01:17:04.000 The demoralization, the breakdown of democracy was engineered by Russia.
01:17:10.000 That's how you would demoralize people.
01:17:13.000 That's a great way to do it.
01:17:15.000 I mean, it's sneaky, but it's a great way to do it.
01:17:18.000 And beatings will continue until morale improves.
01:17:23.000 That's what it is.
01:17:25.000 Always.
01:17:26.000 Well, look how quickly people rolled over during COVID. It's fascinating.
01:17:30.000 It was fascinating to watch how quickly people just trusted wholesale, the pharmaceutical drug companies, the same people that got us into the opioid crisis.
01:17:39.000 Well, you know what I believe it is.
01:17:42.000 You know, just from our relationships of living life, a lot of it, not it's all, I can never say that, but a lot of things are of childhood trauma and the different traumas we experience as kids and, you know,
01:17:57.000 from all kinds of...
01:18:00.000 Abandonment issues, to neglect, to abuse, and all these things, and you got all that inside, and you want to fight with it.
01:18:09.000 I use the connection, the analogy of, say somebody was hanging out, they were a kid, and somebody went up and did the knockout game to them, and they got knocked out, and they were traumatized from that, and when people would move their hands, they start to get defensive, and then after a while,
01:18:26.000 they just start swinging first.
01:18:27.000 Well, you know, that's just...
01:18:30.000 I had a conversation with Michael Irvin once on a plane, just randomly on a plane.
01:18:35.000 We were flying to Australia.
01:18:36.000 We just happened to him on a flight together.
01:18:37.000 He was going there for a football thing.
01:18:38.000 I was going there for the UFC. And we were talking about...
01:18:42.000 He was telling me about studies that they've done on women when the child is in the womb and the woman experiences violence, domestic violence, a lot of violence.
01:18:51.000 Violence in the community.
01:18:53.000 Cortisol levels rise and the child coming out is more likely to be violent.
01:18:57.000 Wow!
01:18:58.000 The child coming out of the more likely, quick-tempered, because you have to.
01:19:03.000 You're being programmed that danger is around you all the time and you've got to be able to snap into it quick.
01:19:09.000 That's what it is.
01:19:11.000 And, you know, you think fighting a thousand fights will help this one problem, but just like jujitsu, you've got to go to the root of the problem.
01:19:20.000 Right.
01:19:20.000 You know, and it's whether it was your mother who you got problems, your mother wasn't there and neglected you, or your father and different things, and you've got to forgive them.
01:19:30.000 And then you realize you don't take anything personal in life.
01:19:34.000 I mean, somebody...
01:19:35.000 We're good to go.
01:19:43.000 We're good to go.
01:19:59.000 And everybody's in this and that.
01:20:01.000 Severe illness.
01:20:02.000 Yeah, and they're already afraid.
01:20:04.000 They're afraid of the whole world.
01:20:07.000 That's the people who vote for them and that's who they get.
01:20:11.000 They reach out to those people.
01:20:13.000 Those are the hurt ones.
01:20:15.000 Imagine how much pain there is in the world just from childhood trauma.
01:20:20.000 Just life.
01:20:21.000 Just life trauma.
01:20:23.000 Just the anxiety of trying to survive.
01:20:26.000 I mean, so many people are just hanging on.
01:20:29.000 How many people have just barely enough in the bank account to just take a couple of days off of work?
01:20:35.000 Forget about being unemployed.
01:20:36.000 Yeah, and it wipes out all of our whole workforce.
01:20:39.000 I mean, in Hawaii, we got to wait for the food to come in on the boat.
01:20:43.000 And if you're working, if it's anywhere near...
01:20:47.000 Because the groceries are so expensive.
01:20:49.000 If it's anywhere near the EBT card, why not just jump on the EBT card then?
01:20:53.000 Because, you know, it's a tough situation.
01:20:56.000 Everybody's hurt.
01:20:57.000 Hawaii's in bad shape in our workforce.
01:21:00.000 It was in bad shape because of COVID already.
01:21:02.000 We were talking about this in terms of the funding for any disaster efforts or anything.
01:21:07.000 It was already hurt.
01:21:09.000 Yep.
01:21:09.000 And now they're coming to raise the rest of everybody.
01:21:13.000 And well, thank God I was talking to the UFC gym this morning and we said, nope, we're not doing anything.
01:21:18.000 We're not doing any of the masks.
01:21:19.000 We're not doing any of the vaccine passports.
01:21:21.000 We're keeping everything open.
01:21:23.000 So that stuff is more unhealthy than, you know, we don't want to push unhealthiness.
01:21:28.000 We need to push healthy.
01:21:30.000 And you got to keep your place open.
01:21:32.000 You got to, you know.
01:21:34.000 That's what it is.
01:21:35.000 We gotta survive.
01:21:37.000 We gotta survive.
01:21:38.000 Survival over everything.
01:21:39.000 Well, the thing about survival, just the term survival, they're talking now about doing this with a disease that's not even killing anybody.
01:21:45.000 This new COVID is a cold.
01:21:47.000 My kids had it.
01:21:48.000 They had it for a day.
01:21:49.000 I didn't even get it.
01:21:51.000 I didn't do shit.
01:21:52.000 I didn't do anything different.
01:21:54.000 I visited my daughter when she was in bed.
01:21:56.000 I kissed her.
01:21:57.000 I'm like, you're gonna be okay.
01:21:58.000 Just chill out.
01:21:59.000 She was sick for one day.
01:22:01.000 I never got it.
01:22:02.000 My wife had it kind of.
01:22:03.000 She had like a crappy workout day.
01:22:05.000 She was tired and she was wrecked and she went to sleep early.
01:22:08.000 I never got it.
01:22:09.000 You can't get COVID unless you take the test.
01:22:13.000 You just got the flu.
01:22:15.000 The bottom line is everybody wants to be scared.
01:22:19.000 They want to go back to being...
01:22:20.000 I've watched so many people on Instagram saying, I can't wait for the booster to come out in September.
01:22:25.000 I'm ready.
01:22:27.000 I've already had five boosters and I mask everywhere in public.
01:22:31.000 That doesn't even work.
01:22:33.000 You see the studies on masks.
01:22:35.000 It doesn't work.
01:22:36.000 It doesn't stop spread.
01:22:38.000 CNN confronted Fauci about this.
01:22:41.000 And what did Fauci say?
01:22:42.000 But this is a wild shift for CNN and I applaud them for it.
01:22:48.000 They were confronting him on studies.
01:22:49.000 You're telling people to mask up, but the studies are saying that masks don't work.
01:22:53.000 And he was saying they work on an individual level.
01:22:56.000 What does that even mean?
01:22:58.000 That doesn't mean anything.
01:22:59.000 If it doesn't work on a human being, it doesn't work.
01:23:01.000 If it doesn't work on populations of human beings, it doesn't work.
01:23:03.000 You're breathing air out of that fucking thing.
01:23:07.000 The particles of these viruses are very small.
01:23:10.000 They're smaller than vape particles.
01:23:12.000 If you've ever seen that one doctor that did this demonstration on YouTube early in the pandemic, this guy said, this is bullshit.
01:23:19.000 You know, I understand how small these viruses are.
01:23:23.000 Let me show you with something that's much larger, which is vape.
01:23:26.000 So he takes a big hit of the vape and he puts a fucking mask on and blows the fucking the vape smoke right out of the mask.
01:23:33.000 It's like we're playing a game.
01:23:34.000 This is like cosplay.
01:23:37.000 Special interest group.
01:23:39.000 It's just people being nuts.
01:23:40.000 And one of the most powerful of all in big pharma.
01:23:44.000 Every time they announce, oh, there's a new variation and we're working on the new booster and it's going to be ready in six months and, well, there's going to be a new variation of COVID by then and they're going to work for the next boost that'll be ready in another six months.
01:23:58.000 I don't even think they've tested this new one on people.
01:24:01.000 It's got to be big pharma over big pharma.
01:24:05.000 We gotta get all that food.
01:24:06.000 That's a good line, BJ. I like that.
01:24:08.000 We gotta get all that food.
01:24:09.000 Actual nutrition.
01:24:11.000 I remember watching this thing back when I was training, and it said clearly, we are not homo sapiens, we are bacteria sapiens.
01:24:19.000 And we need to eat all that food.
01:24:21.000 I think the best nutritionist was Colonel Sanders when he said, finger licking good.
01:24:26.000 You know, don't wash your hands, just eat the food, eat the poi, you know?
01:24:31.000 Yeah.
01:24:32.000 You know, bacteria.
01:24:33.000 Well, I think there's something, the fact that I never get sick to the fact that I shake so many hands.
01:24:37.000 For real.
01:24:38.000 I used to do shows.
01:24:39.000 I used to do shows like I did the Chicago Theater, two shows.
01:24:41.000 And after this, 3,700 people each show.
01:24:44.000 After the shows, I'd shake hands with as many people who wanted to take pictures.
01:24:48.000 Yeah.
01:24:48.000 I waited for hours.
01:24:49.000 The fucking staff hated it.
01:24:51.000 You gotta stay there.
01:24:52.000 I never got sick.
01:24:53.000 I was just shaking thousands of people's hands.
01:24:55.000 I was hugging thousands of people.
01:24:56.000 That's how you get strong.
01:24:58.000 But I wasn't getting sick.
01:25:00.000 Also nutrition.
01:25:01.000 Also exercise.
01:25:02.000 Also sleep.
01:25:03.000 All those good things.
01:25:04.000 But on top of that, there's a little bit of something to being exposed to a bunch of different people's biome.
01:25:09.000 And when you're not, like when you're locked in your house, it's actually detrimental to your immune system.
01:25:14.000 On top of it creates anxiety, which is detrimental to your immune system.
01:25:18.000 You're freaking out, social isolation.
01:25:19.000 Exactly.
01:25:20.000 All the things are bad for your mental health, which is bad for your physical health.
01:25:23.000 All those things are connected, 100%.
01:25:25.000 To ignore that is fucking silly.
01:25:28.000 And it's crazy.
01:25:29.000 It was so insane to me when during the height of COVID, Jen Psaki was still the White House press secretary at that time, and somebody asked her, are you in the White House going to start advocating for people to, I don't know if it was exercise and eat healthy or one or the other,
01:25:48.000 a combination of both.
01:25:49.000 And she couldn't just say, yes.
01:25:52.000 Like, of course people should be trying to be healthy, eat healthy, and exercise.
01:25:57.000 All she said was, we are advocating for what our health experts say, and our health experts say take the vaccine.
01:26:07.000 Period.
01:26:07.000 And imagine that that lady goes from there.
01:26:09.000 Where is she at now?
01:26:10.000 She's got her own show on MSNBC. That is hilarious.
01:26:15.000 That's no different than someone working at the FBI and then getting a job at Pfizer.
01:26:19.000 None.
01:26:19.000 It's the same thing.
01:26:21.000 Now you're on the propaganda wing.
01:26:23.000 Right.
01:26:23.000 And that's how the propaganda wing is created.
01:26:26.000 And it's no different than...
01:26:29.000 A governor signing a bunch of bills to screw us all over and getting to president.
01:26:34.000 It's all the same stuff.
01:26:35.000 While we're talking about that, I want to ask you, Tulsi, what is the legal precedent?
01:26:41.000 What is a governor allowed to do?
01:26:44.000 When the governor is saying we might acquire that land and build a monument, which is fucking insane, is that legal?
01:26:51.000 Is that possible?
01:26:52.000 Has that happened?
01:26:54.000 I don't know that it's happened in any other state.
01:26:57.000 Every state has its own state constitution and its own laws that govern what the executive branch of the state is or isn't allowed to do.
01:27:08.000 The concerning thing is that the governor, I think, again, it was about a week after this happened, said, I'm having my attorney general look into the legalities of the state taking ownership of the land.
01:27:20.000 I'm not aware that an answer has come back on that.
01:27:24.000 Governor Green, after people were rightly outraged at his statement, he tried to walk it back and say, okay, well, we're not going to allow big developers to come in and steal the land from the people.
01:27:36.000 But the fact that the people's sovereign right to have the decision-making power over their own land and their homes is We're good to go.
01:28:01.000 Because they want us to see that, to lose faith in what's going on, I believe.
01:28:05.000 I mean, they're not hiding it.
01:28:06.000 I mean, he said what he meant.
01:28:08.000 Nothing hid.
01:28:08.000 Nothing hid.
01:28:09.000 I just think what it is, is there's no financial interest for them to send money to Ukraine.
01:28:14.000 Or, excuse me, to send money to Maui.
01:28:15.000 There's a financial interest because of the defense contractors.
01:28:18.000 The amount of money that's being spent, that's propping up the people that are behind the deep stage.
01:28:24.000 And I believe, just like you in Hawaii, why don't we have 100 casino boats down Waikiki and NASCAR tracks and another stadium on the Big Island and jobs so our people don't have to move away because nobody has to leave.
01:28:37.000 The Big Island, you can fit 15, 20 million people over there.
01:28:40.000 That place is huge.
01:28:41.000 It's huge.
01:28:42.000 Nobody has to leave.
01:28:43.000 But I believe, you know, different things.
01:28:47.000 You know, you got...
01:28:48.000 If we had an economy worth like a trillion dollars, what would Pearl Harbor have to pay every five years?
01:28:56.000 You're talking about real money.
01:28:58.000 You're talking about a lot of money.
01:29:00.000 Pohakuloa, the military base on the top of the big island, that's bigger than the island of Kauai, that one base.
01:29:06.000 And so they're building a residential area right now.
01:29:08.000 But how much would that residential area cost them, you know, if we actually had an economy?
01:29:13.000 We need every dollar we can get.
01:29:16.000 Hawaii is poor.
01:29:19.000 Completely reliant on people coming in and spending money.
01:29:23.000 And yeah, that's all it is.
01:29:24.000 And that didn't happen for two years.
01:29:25.000 But why can't we take that to the next level?
01:29:28.000 100 casino boats in Waikiki.
01:29:30.000 I mean, everybody with money in their pockets.
01:29:32.000 Why not?
01:29:33.000 I believe the military industrial complex, they'll have to pay so much just for Pearl Harbor.
01:29:39.000 And it gets scary when they start changing because that was the Pearl River.
01:29:43.000 When they start changing the name from river to harbor, they're doing that in Hilo now with the Wailoa River.
01:29:48.000 It makes you wonder what's coming next.
01:29:50.000 Has anybody tried to stop casino boats?
01:29:55.000 Has anybody tried to put in casino boats?
01:29:57.000 The debate around whether, because what do they call Vegas, the ninth island, right?
01:30:02.000 Because a lot of people from Hawaii go to Vegas, they'll go for the weekend, they'll gamble, then they'll come home.
01:30:07.000 I don't know the numbers recently, but for a long time there's been this debate in Hawaii whether or not to legalize gambling in the state.
01:30:14.000 We are one of two states that does not allow legal gambling of any sort.
01:30:19.000 Do you have a lottery?
01:30:20.000 It's Hawaii and Utah.
01:30:21.000 We don't have a lottery.
01:30:22.000 We don't want nothing because of these things.
01:30:24.000 And so even, you know, Department of Hawaiian Homelands, there are Native Hawaiian homestead lands, there have been proposals to build casinos on Hawaiian homestead lands, similar to how they have on Indian reservations in other states,
01:30:40.000 and even that has not passed in the state.
01:30:44.000 And again, I don't know, I don't know, there is something in Hawaii where Again, this is not based on current data, but the arguments I've heard in the past is people are like, hey, we see that there's a lot of negative elements that can go along with casinos.
01:30:59.000 We'd rather fly to Vegas, gamble there, and then come back and keep Hawaii.
01:31:05.000 There are two sides to the argument.
01:31:07.000 I get it.
01:31:08.000 But it's not a universally supported concept, I guess, is my point.
01:31:11.000 I guess when, do you feel, I mean, of course, anything will bring crime.
01:31:15.000 I guess people bring crime.
01:31:17.000 But, you know, when you think about Vegas or whatever, you know, I haven't been there for a little bit, but I mean, is there the crime and stuff?
01:31:26.000 The crime in Vegas had a bit of an uptick during the pandemic, but that's like everywhere in the world.
01:31:31.000 People were out of work.
01:31:33.000 And also the cops weren't around.
01:31:35.000 Because of the George Floyd protests, there was a lot of defund the police talk everywhere in the country.
01:31:41.000 Things are just more wild.
01:31:44.000 That's calmed down.
01:31:45.000 Vegas seems like Vegas now.
01:31:48.000 It just seems normal.
01:31:49.000 They do a great job in squashing as much crime and violence as they can, considering the massive amount of people that fly in.
01:31:58.000 Look, if you were going to have A casino, you're going to have more trouble.
01:32:03.000 But you're also going to have more money.
01:32:05.000 Yeah.
01:32:05.000 So the question is like, do you believe that people should have the freedom to gamble?
01:32:09.000 I do.
01:32:09.000 I don't even gamble at casinos.
01:32:11.000 Me neither.
01:32:12.000 But I believe you should be able to gamble.
01:32:13.000 And Hawaii, when we had the 2008 financial collapse, they were talking about, and they were ready to put it on the ballot to start letting 18-year-olds drink.
01:32:23.000 So, I mean, we're considering letting 18-year-olds drink.
01:32:27.000 We need jobs, though, either way.
01:32:30.000 We're not here to talk about the moral issue of all of that, but we need jobs.
01:32:34.000 None of our people have to leave.
01:32:36.000 I always say that Hawaii's biggest export is our people.
01:32:41.000 The tourists come in on the full plane, and the plane leaves empty because we send nothing.
01:32:45.000 The only thing we send is our children to move away to use their labor and their love in another place.
01:32:52.000 And it's hard.
01:32:53.000 I mean, there was a report that just came out that showed Hawaii's highest cost of living in the country and a living wage in Hawaii.
01:33:03.000 In order to just live, not do well or be wealthier, the living wage in Hawaii is around $113,000 a year.
01:33:12.000 Holy shit!
01:33:13.000 113 grand.
01:33:15.000 We have to take care.
01:33:16.000 And I'll tell you, people working at the valet stand at, you know, Hotel X in Hawaii, I can pretty much guarantee he's not making $113,000 a year.
01:33:26.000 Or the woman who's going in and cleaning the hotel rooms, as people say, how do people make it?
01:33:30.000 People make it because you've got three or four generations living under one roof.
01:33:33.000 There you go.
01:33:34.000 And most people working two jobs.
01:33:36.000 And that's why they moved to Las Vegas because they can live by themselves with their wife and their two kids in a four-bedroom house or are they going to live with their mom?
01:33:43.000 That's what they're looking at.
01:33:47.000 Has there been talk about Hawaii seceding from the United States?
01:33:53.000 There's always been a sovereignty movement in Hawaii who point to the overthrow of the Queen.
01:34:02.000 That they don't have a treaty or whatever and these things.
01:34:05.000 And their effort to return Hawaii back to a sovereign kingdom.
01:34:11.000 It's kind of crazy that it's America and it's five hours over the ocean in a plane.
01:34:17.000 It is.
01:34:18.000 Change.
01:34:19.000 That's so crazy!
01:34:22.000 That's so crazy.
01:34:23.000 Yeah.
01:34:24.000 It is.
01:34:25.000 I mean, wondering, I mean, because I hear it all the time, there is no treaty.
01:34:29.000 There is no treaty signed and this and that, you know.
01:34:32.000 I mean, it's stuff we hear all our whole lives growing up as a kid, but, you know.
01:34:38.000 Right now, I think, I just, my heart directed at, we got to do something now.
01:34:44.000 I mean, the property assessment tax...
01:34:47.000 If the guy next to you buys a house for $20 million, now you pay the same tax level as this guy.
01:34:52.000 And if you were just a generational family with all your kids, just like me and her and we're in the house hanging out, how are we going to pay the taxes?
01:35:02.000 There's no way.
01:35:02.000 So the property taxes are based on the property value.
01:35:07.000 So if the property value goes up, your taxes go up and it essentially pushes people out.
01:35:11.000 And nobody can withstand this.
01:35:14.000 No.
01:35:15.000 When we saw this a lot during COVID, too, is a lot of very wealthy people from the mainland were seizing on the opportunity.
01:35:24.000 Like, hey, if I got to be at home and stuck at home and work from home, I'm going to go do it in Hawaii.
01:35:28.000 And they were throwing down a single family home, not built recently, not fancy, is on the market for $900,000.
01:35:37.000 They would throw down like $1.5 million cash to scoop that house up off the market.
01:35:43.000 And this was happening over and over and over again.
01:35:45.000 How does any local family compete with people from the mainland coming in and throwing down millions of dollars cash?
01:35:52.000 And that immediately drives everything up.
01:35:55.000 I do admit, though, with all of these problems going on in America and, you know, with President Biden and everything going on, I see a lot of people who aren't Native Hawaiian trying to go over to that Native Hawaiian movement because They're scared themselves about everything that's going on.
01:36:18.000 So everybody was kind of keeping an open mind to different things.
01:36:21.000 I'm sure when all the coronavirus stuff was happening, so was Texas, so was Florida.
01:36:27.000 Everybody had a more open mind as kind of a more independent attitude as moving forward.
01:36:34.000 It's interesting to see that.
01:36:36.000 It is interesting.
01:36:36.000 What's interesting is if there wasn't a Florida and if there wasn't a Texas, there wasn't places that were open, You know, when I came here, I came here in May of 2020. That's when I was already like, fuck this.
01:36:49.000 I was already, like, it was only a couple months in.
01:36:52.000 I was like, what happened in two weeks?
01:36:53.000 Like, everything's shut down.
01:36:55.000 Everything's staying shut down.
01:36:56.000 All my friends that were in the restaurant industry were struggling, hardcore.
01:37:00.000 They lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 70% of the restaurants in Los Angeles.
01:37:05.000 Now they're coming for the rest.
01:37:07.000 And so when that happened I started looking out here in May and I went to a restaurant with my kids and they were like we don't have to wear a mask like they were sitting down like we can eat at a restaurant like in two months they were already like everybody was already freaked out and then we went to the lake and people are playing music and jumping in the water and I was and they were like we want to live here yeah right that'll do it that was it that's Two months later,
01:37:32.000 I lived here.
01:37:32.000 Isn't it crazy how Dr. Evil runs New York, California, and Hawaii?
01:37:37.000 Those are like his three main things that he controls.
01:37:43.000 Isn't it amazing?
01:37:44.000 The three best places he controls them.
01:37:46.000 Well, the concern that people have here is that people are going to move here and vote the same way.
01:37:50.000 And they're going to vote some totalitarian asshole and sort of impose the same sort of laws here.
01:37:55.000 Well, I just think that, I mean, their moving is going to be one thing that will help them.
01:38:00.000 But even on the other side, the fact that we don't heal the childhood trauma from the kids, I mean, in ninth grade, fifth grade, ninth grade, Yeah.
01:38:30.000 I believe we have to do something about that.
01:38:32.000 I don't know if it's a therapy thing.
01:38:35.000 I don't even know if they train the therapist to even work on this stuff.
01:38:40.000 But, you know, this child, you know, they're talking about the voting.
01:38:44.000 Well, the hurt children and all these things, that's who's going to follow.
01:38:48.000 These people.
01:38:49.000 That's who they reach out to.
01:38:51.000 They're definitely not teaching people how to think.
01:38:54.000 And that's a real problem.
01:38:56.000 And they're certainly not teaching people about all the lies that have already been told.
01:39:00.000 The idea that you're supposed to trust the government which consistently lies about almost everything.
01:39:05.000 And now we're supposed to trust the Zapruder film 12 years late?
01:39:08.000 12 years late, I mean, right?
01:39:10.000 Makes you wonder.
01:39:11.000 Yeah, things happen much quicker now, obviously, but it all boils down to when have they not lied?
01:39:19.000 That's what I want to know.
01:39:20.000 Yeah, that's what it is.
01:39:21.000 What great event has not been somehow or another propagandized?
01:39:26.000 I mean, you'd have to think the elections for Pharaoh back in the day, do you trust those?
01:39:30.000 Or like you said, do you trust John Adams and Thomas Jefferson's election?
01:39:35.000 When you were running, when you were running for governor, like what was your experience in terms of like bumping heads with these people?
01:39:42.000 I think the Republican Party really went against me when I went into the Department of Education because that's why I was running.
01:39:51.000 I mean, I was running for the children and I was running because if you can print all the money you could possibly ever need, why the hell are you asking us for taxes?
01:39:59.000 You know, type of thing.
01:40:02.000 You know, I would say that's when it started, when I went into the education.
01:40:10.000 And I told the guy, I said, hey, you got to go.
01:40:12.000 You got to go.
01:40:13.000 Because you walked into the Department of Education building, right?
01:40:16.000 Yeah.
01:40:16.000 And I said, you guys got to go.
01:40:18.000 And I think from that time, you know, whoever the powers that be behind...
01:40:24.000 It's like the Women's League of Republicans.
01:40:26.000 They run the Republican Party there.
01:40:28.000 So I think it's Lingo, Duke...
01:40:31.000 Duke Iona, Linda Lingo, Pat Saiki, and whoever else they put in the top of that thing.
01:40:37.000 And, you know, people say deep state.
01:40:39.000 I don't really use that word.
01:40:40.000 People say different things.
01:40:41.000 But, you know, special interest groups.
01:40:44.000 But you think about it.
01:40:46.000 I'm walking in thinking to try to help people.
01:40:49.000 And, you know, the Republicans own the businesses and the Democrats keep the money coming from Washington.
01:40:55.000 So they're going to love these guys.
01:40:57.000 They got their little hooey up on the top of a group.
01:41:00.000 You know, that these guys bring all the money, these guys own businesses.
01:41:03.000 So you're really getting shot from both sides.
01:41:06.000 But I think me and my mother talk a lot about different things.
01:41:11.000 And I think she was just kind of bummed out because they came to her for years, the Republican Party, asking for money, asking for money, asking for money.
01:41:19.000 What did you guys give us when we ran?
01:41:22.000 You know, just an enemy.
01:41:25.000 So what were you trying to do with the education department?
01:41:29.000 Well, get the masks off the kids.
01:41:32.000 Stop all of that stuff.
01:41:34.000 Because it was...
01:41:35.000 I mean, people would say, well, they're not speaking as good and this and that.
01:41:39.000 But we know what that was all about.
01:41:40.000 It was all about making us illiterate.
01:41:42.000 They don't want us to read because then we'll know what's going on.
01:41:46.000 You know?
01:41:46.000 And that's what...
01:41:48.000 If you ask me, why would you keep that thing on there?
01:41:50.000 But they were also getting, of course, special interest groups.
01:41:53.000 They were getting money, an extra $250,000.
01:41:56.000 Yeah, but unfortunately, a lot of people believed in masks back then.
01:41:59.000 And there's people that believe in it now.
01:42:02.000 They're not like the purveyors of propaganda in a sense that they're not trying to control people.
01:42:07.000 They're just terrified people that are filled with anxiety that wear masks all the time and think you should, too.
01:42:12.000 And I know people like that.
01:42:14.000 I think that's a misery enjoys company thing, a little bit of it, too.
01:42:17.000 Yeah, you know, there's a little bit of it, too, but it's also there.
01:42:20.000 They were under the road and I've had arguments with people about this.
01:42:23.000 They don't have many more because now the data is out.
01:42:26.000 But people that were saying that masks work like, yeah, they don't they don't they're saying it on CNN now.
01:42:32.000 So you tell me why you think kids should wear masks.
01:42:36.000 Because that's fucking bananas.
01:42:37.000 If they don't work, and they statistically show they don't work, are you just doing this as like a theater?
01:42:42.000 Is this a theater to show that you're safe?
01:42:44.000 Is it to make people less anxious?
01:42:46.000 What is it?
01:42:46.000 They were getting a lot more money.
01:42:48.000 The Department of Education in Hawaii was getting a certain amount of more money for this from those emergency funds.
01:42:56.000 The COVID whatever.
01:42:58.000 If they complied.
01:42:59.000 So they would get money that they would spend on what?
01:43:03.000 Good question.
01:43:04.000 I wish I knew.
01:43:05.000 I wish I knew.
01:43:06.000 But I mean, you look at these different things.
01:43:08.000 The University of Hawaii was getting so much money from Governor Ige.
01:43:14.000 You just look at these different things and they're all just a different department of the state, whether it's called the University of Hawaii or the Department of Health or whatever it is down the line.
01:43:24.000 They're just all state departments.
01:43:26.000 When you think about how much fear was fomented around the whole COVID situation, you look at the fear that was fomented around this war in Ukraine, saying, if we don't go fight them over here, the Russians are going to come and take over America.
01:43:41.000 When you look at the fear that's fomented around other wars that have been started, you look at the fear that was fomented in the whole post 9-11 era that led to the Patriot Act and total violation of our civil liberties, In all of these examples, you can see how ultimately what's at the heart of this fomenting of fear by people in power is control.
01:44:02.000 That if they make us afraid as a people, then we will be more accepting of them taking away our civil liberties and our freedoms and extending that long arm of big brother into some of the most personal parts of our lives.
01:44:19.000 And that is the ultimate abuse of power.
01:44:22.000 When you look at the rights and freedoms that are enshrined in the Constitution of Bill of Rights, and you see people who have raised their right hand, like I did, both as a soldier and a member of Congress, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, directly taking action intentionally to undermine Our rights and liberties in the Constitution to increase their power.
01:44:45.000 That is what is at the core of the problem that we have in this country right now, that our fundamental ideals, values and principles are being undermined by those who've taken an oath to support and protect them in the Constitution to advance their own selfish interests and their own power.
01:45:02.000 And this is not the Democrat elite are in charge of the White House and in charge of A lot of the administrative state, we see the politicization of the Department of Justice, of law enforcement agencies, of all of these different entities whose mission it is to serve the people.
01:45:25.000 Being politicized and that power being abused to advance personal and political interest by those in power.
01:45:31.000 That is the biggest threat, the immediate threat that we face in this country.
01:45:38.000 That's it.
01:45:38.000 And what do we do now?
01:45:40.000 What does the American public, the concerned American public do to try to stop that?
01:45:46.000 First and foremost, in this age of cancel culture and censorship, we have to exercise our freedoms.
01:45:54.000 They're trying to take them away.
01:45:56.000 We have to make sure that our voices are heard.
01:45:57.000 In whatever platform or situation, whatever that is, we have to exercise our freedoms in order to maintain them.
01:46:05.000 I think?
01:46:09.000 I think?
01:46:26.000 We won't have a government of, by and for the people.
01:46:29.000 What we need to do is, also what we need to do, our election offices, they have to do a press conference themselves and announce this.
01:46:42.000 Announce the results of the elections.
01:46:43.000 Announce the results of the elections.
01:46:45.000 I mean, when I was there, KITV, they did a good interview with me.
01:46:50.000 And then they kept begging me over and over, hey, can we come for the live election night at your house?
01:46:55.000 And I said, no, maybe that's not a good idea.
01:46:58.000 Maybe my brothers might be drinking or something.
01:47:00.000 I don't want any bad press or anything.
01:47:03.000 So they came over.
01:47:06.000 No, they didn't come over.
01:47:07.000 We stopped them from coming over, but they kept asking us for an interview.
01:47:11.000 So I sat down and I did the interview with them.
01:47:14.000 And then I got up and my buddy goes, hey, that was a good interview.
01:47:19.000 The next thing, I walk out the door.
01:47:21.000 The next thing they play is an already edited video.
01:47:24.000 Oh, the primary's over.
01:47:25.000 Here it is.
01:47:26.000 We got the winners, Duke and Green.
01:47:28.000 So they'll go on to the final.
01:47:30.000 And I thought...
01:47:31.000 I sat there for a little bit and I thought, maybe I should have told them to come over to KITV. Then I would just go, hey, this is fake, and slam their camera on the ground or something.
01:47:40.000 But I thought, huh, the news runs the election.
01:47:44.000 These guys run the election.
01:47:46.000 That was the first time I ever thought that.
01:47:48.000 And then I thought different things because Here's the ball.
01:47:52.000 And these guys have civil and criminal liability.
01:47:56.000 If they say anything, that's why I wonder why they don't do press conferences.
01:48:00.000 So here they got the ball.
01:48:01.000 Now they pass the ball to somebody who has no civil and criminal liability, which is the news.
01:48:08.000 Right?
01:48:08.000 And now the news is holding the ball, and they're the ones—they're the messenger.
01:48:12.000 You know, they say kill the messenger, different things, but they're the messenger.
01:48:15.000 They're the guys who's going to tell everybody about it.
01:48:18.000 So you never hear from this guy.
01:48:20.000 The ball's over on this side.
01:48:22.000 And that's what—I mean, I felt that I saw, and anybody who said—and the news will be going like, no, they got the ball— And look, these people are lying saying...
01:48:32.000 Or Trump and them are telling more lies about the election voting machines or Lindell or everything.
01:48:38.000 But I don't know who is who in the zoo.
01:48:40.000 We don't know who's a good guy.
01:48:41.000 We don't know who's a bad guy.
01:48:42.000 We know nothing.
01:48:43.000 We don't know too much of our history.
01:48:46.000 You know, it just...
01:48:47.000 Life's tough to kind of sift through everything going on.
01:48:50.000 And most people don't have the time.
01:48:52.000 Yeah, and we're all stuck in the rat race.
01:48:54.000 There's so many bills going through every day.
01:48:57.000 And I'm kind of...
01:48:58.000 I kind of like to think about political stuff, but I don't got the time to find out every bill getting passed through the City County Council.
01:49:07.000 And I grew up with these people, and still, you'll see different things.
01:49:10.000 They were trying to pass this bill.
01:49:12.000 It's a...
01:49:14.000 What they're going to do is they clean up the downtown, but they put a lien on the owner of the property.
01:49:18.000 He gets a lien put on his property.
01:49:20.000 So all the commercial people kind of went along with it, and everybody were like, hey, we're just going to pass that bill to you, and you're going to pass that bill to your employee, and now they're going to put parking stalls out there.
01:49:34.000 Everybody's just going to go to Walmart.
01:49:36.000 Nobody's going to come to Hilo's downtown anymore.
01:49:38.000 Everybody got to kind of wake up, you know, and kind of figure out what's going on a little bit.
01:49:43.000 And so as soon as they were done with Hilo, they didn't get it passed.
01:49:47.000 My mother had to jump on the Downtown Improvement Agency just to get the council to not bring the bill up again because they kept bringing it up.
01:49:54.000 And all they did was pick up and move to Pohoa to get that bill passed in Pohoa.
01:49:59.000 And then Kau or whatever else, whatever else they do these things.
01:50:03.000 It's a nonstop.
01:50:05.000 It's an onslaught.
01:50:06.000 It's just constantly going, going.
01:50:08.000 And you can't be on top of all of it.
01:50:09.000 You can't be on top of none of it, because we're busy.
01:50:13.000 Tulsi, there's all this talk, it's fascinating, I'm sure you've seen this, but there's a video that shows like 20 minutes of the Democrats denying the results of the elections.
01:50:22.000 Yes.
01:50:23.000 You've seen it, right?
01:50:24.000 Yes.
01:50:24.000 It's really crazy, because it's Hillary Clinton, he's an illegitimate president, he lost the election, the Russians hacked the election, all this crazy stuff.
01:50:35.000 But when Trump says it, then it becomes a serious threat to our democracy.
01:50:39.000 Well, and as we're seeing now, a prosecutable offense.
01:50:44.000 Yes.
01:50:45.000 In your eyes...
01:50:46.000 Prosecutable offense?
01:50:46.000 To question the election?
01:50:48.000 It's one of the things that he's being charged with.
01:50:49.000 Oh, wow.
01:50:52.000 How much veracity is there to these claims?
01:50:55.000 It seems like, at least on some local levels, there's a constant theme of catching something.
01:51:05.000 There's people that are concerned about the voting machines.
01:51:08.000 There's people concerned about ballot dumping.
01:51:10.000 There's people concerned about mail-in ballots.
01:51:13.000 What is your thoughts on that?
01:51:15.000 There is no doubt there are improvements that need to be made to ensure the integrity of our elections.
01:51:21.000 Period.
01:51:22.000 Full stop.
01:51:24.000 This is something that I sought to address while I was in Congress with a very, very simple piece of legislation.
01:51:31.000 That would have said, or that would have implemented federal funding for each state to require either a paper ballot or a paper record of an electronic vote that's cast.
01:51:47.000 That way, if there are any questions about the integrity of the election or the vote count, you would have the ability to conduct a paper audit of that election.
01:51:56.000 We've seen time and again through these DEF CON hacking conferences they have in Vegas almost every year, how, you know, children, 12, 13, 14-year-old kids go in and they do these demonstrations.
01:52:08.000 Hey, we're going to time you.
01:52:09.000 Can you hack into this voting, electronic voting system from whatever state?
01:52:14.000 And these kids are able to hack into these systems within minutes.
01:52:17.000 Kids.
01:52:17.000 What to speak of somebody who may try to do a concerted attack and manipulate the outcome of an election.
01:52:26.000 So my bill is very simple.
01:52:27.000 We know these vulnerabilities.
01:52:29.000 States and counties have the federal government does not have the authority to administer elections.
01:52:35.000 Period.
01:52:37.000 That is run by the counties in the states, and that's why the laws are very different in how they choose to do it.
01:52:42.000 So my bill said, okay, well there is funding that the federal government provides to these counties and states to administer these elections.
01:52:48.000 This federal funding should come with a baseline requirement that these elections are auditable by having some form of a paper record.
01:52:56.000 Nobody in Congress was interested in passing that legislation.
01:53:00.000 Of course not.
01:53:01.000 Even though we had statistics, and I believe this was in 2017, where the state of Virginia has, or the Commonwealth of Virginia, as they say, has off-year elections.
01:53:12.000 So they don't hold their statewide elections on the same year, even-numbered years.
01:53:17.000 And that year they had, was the first year that they had implemented, 17 or 19, but they had first implemented having some form of a paper record.
01:53:27.000 And it was the year that they did not get a single question.
01:53:32.000 The State Office of Elections did not get a single question or complaint about the integrity of their elections.
01:53:37.000 And they did it because they saw, oh gosh, these electronic voting systems are really vulnerable.
01:53:42.000 We need to do something about it.
01:53:44.000 And they took action.
01:53:45.000 The fact that this is not the case across the country is very concerning.
01:53:49.000 It is concerning that you see so many of the Democrat elite dismiss people who merely ask questions about voter fraud.
01:53:57.000 Well, no, no, no, it doesn't occur.
01:53:59.000 When I was in Congress, I shared a house with my sister and her husband there in D.C. when election time came around, they got a few ballots from the previous owners of the home who had since been deceased.
01:54:15.000 I don't know how many people in the country are getting ballots mailed to them to be filled out at home and returned with the names of people who died.
01:54:24.000 And there's no verification of that.
01:54:27.000 So there are very clear steps that can and should be taken to increase and improve the integrity of our elections that the whole Oh gosh, the ballot stuffing where they pay people to go out and get ballots filled up in older care homes and these other places.
01:54:51.000 There are a lot of questions around that process and ensuring the integrity that needs to be addressed.
01:54:57.000 But even if you won, let's say you did win, even though you don't know, say you won.
01:55:03.000 What forces the news to tell the truth of who won?
01:55:07.000 There's no election law.
01:55:09.000 There's no election law that the news is under.
01:55:11.000 There's no law of anything, right?
01:55:15.000 That they have to say this.
01:55:17.000 They're under no civil or criminal liability to say anything.
01:55:21.000 So even if you win the election, that's why I wonder, you know, when Stephen Trump or Lindell come in and they start talking about the mail-in ballots or the voting stuff, How come nobody's talking about the guy who tells everybody who won?
01:55:38.000 Our whole lives, we never got to see the phone call that they say they got when, oh, they just called us right now and so and so on.
01:55:44.000 Now they even do it like a projection style before the counting is even done.
01:55:51.000 They say who won.
01:55:52.000 I mean, we got to kill the messenger.
01:55:55.000 We have to make a law.
01:55:56.000 That has a press conference.
01:55:58.000 If you're going to announce something, if Dana's going to announce something, everybody.
01:56:02.000 We've always done press conferences.
01:56:03.000 That's what we do.
01:56:04.000 That's what people do.
01:56:06.000 They do press conferences and the press comes.
01:56:08.000 But this one, they call the press behind our backs and the press says it.
01:56:13.000 Is that an accident?
01:56:16.000 And the whole time we're looking here, the ball's over here.
01:56:19.000 But what about these guys?
01:56:20.000 Are we never going to look at these guys?
01:56:22.000 I'm waiting for Trump to say, well, let's go look at these guys for a little bit.
01:56:26.000 We didn't see what happened.
01:56:28.000 And it makes you wonder, why does CNN, Google, like you said, it's been curated.
01:56:34.000 Fox and all these people, there's nothing that holds them to that they got to tell the truth.
01:56:39.000 What we need is the press conference.
01:56:41.000 So if the guy doesn't tell the truth, he's incriminating himself right there.
01:56:45.000 He works for the government.
01:56:47.000 I'm sure he has to have signed some kind of oath, whether civil or criminal, liability, that he has to tell the truth and then have all the news.
01:56:56.000 Well, that was the case.
01:56:56.000 Just if that was the case with the news, they had to tell the truth.
01:57:00.000 They would be in a lot of trouble.
01:57:01.000 Just imagine just the war in Iraq, just the weapons of mass destruction, just the Russia collusion scam that they talked about forever, that the people responsible for that are totally being taken seriously in other manners.
01:57:14.000 Yeah.
01:57:14.000 You know.
01:57:15.000 You know.
01:57:16.000 It is not when people in the mainstream media talk about the elections and election fraud and outside forces coming in and trying to We're good to go.
01:57:46.000 We're good to go.
01:58:04.000 It was already decided that I was not a candidate that they found acceptable.
01:58:12.000 And so they did everything they could to discredit and smear and, you know, media blackouts and all this.
01:58:17.000 Well, Hillary Clinton was saying you were a Russian asset.
01:58:18.000 Exactly.
01:58:19.000 And no member of the media ever said, oh, really?
01:58:21.000 What evidence do you have of that?
01:58:24.000 Right.
01:58:24.000 They repeated the line over and over and over again, and it worked.
01:58:29.000 People believed it.
01:58:30.000 And you're seeing the same thing happening now with RFK. They decided, hey, this guy is speaking way too much truth, and so we're going to do everything we possibly can to block voters from hearing him, and we are going to try to smear and discredit him with lies so that if they do hear him,
01:58:49.000 they're not going to believe what he says.
01:58:51.000 Yeah.
01:58:52.000 I mean, anything...
01:58:54.000 So many things you wonder from the news.
01:58:57.000 So if the news isn't true, what about history?
01:59:00.000 And it's the funniest thing.
01:59:02.000 Me and my friend talking the other day, and we're like, yeah, we came to the agreement that, you know, you walk in, what's the only thing you don't see in the cave when you look at all those...
01:59:13.000 All those different pictures of UFOs and dinosaurs and stuff.
01:59:16.000 You don't see a caveman.
01:59:18.000 See what you don't see, you know?
01:59:21.000 It's funny.
01:59:22.000 It's funny what is out there and what we take as fact.
01:59:27.000 What do you mean by that with the cave people?
01:59:29.000 No, no.
01:59:30.000 You know all the different drawings.
01:59:33.000 You see dinosaurs, UFOs.
01:59:34.000 The hieroglyphics.
01:59:35.000 Yeah, just the different stuff.
01:59:36.000 They never drew each other?
01:59:38.000 Yeah, you never really see a caveman.
01:59:40.000 That's funny.
01:59:41.000 I never even thought about that.
01:59:43.000 I don't know enough about it to notice.
01:59:44.000 I guess people just died so quick back then they didn't really...
01:59:48.000 Well, you question everything.
01:59:49.000 I mean, University of Hawaii wants to own the Native Hawaiians history and they get so aggressive all the time.
01:59:55.000 You know, the professors and this and that.
01:59:57.000 And I'm like, you're just taking money from the state.
02:00:00.000 You're just another department like all the others.
02:00:02.000 And, you know, it does...
02:00:04.000 It makes me wonder the different things.
02:00:07.000 They say from a petroglyph that they made this boat and we came across the ocean and different things.
02:00:14.000 And being from Hilo, we're the ones who always get hit from the tsunami.
02:00:18.000 So I'm like, hey man, how do we get hit from the tsunamis if we knew about the water so well?
02:00:22.000 I mean, it just makes you wonder.
02:00:25.000 I think the thing that is so alarming is that, again, I'm going back to the funding for Ukraine.
02:00:34.000 The fact that there are Democrats and Republicans in Congress who have blocked every attempt of accountability for how that money is being spent, how our money is being spent, Says it all.
02:00:47.000 They don't want us to know where that money is going.
02:00:49.000 They don't want us to know how it's being used.
02:00:51.000 They don't want the corruption that continues in Ukraine to be exposed.
02:00:56.000 They don't want us to know the truth.
02:00:58.000 They just want us to continue to support them writing this with this blank check, essentially, without any justification.
02:01:06.000 And tearing people down who just say, hold on a second.
02:01:09.000 How does spending hundreds of billions of dollars of our money Help us.
02:01:15.000 How does it help the American people?
02:01:16.000 How does it help our national security interests?
02:01:19.000 It doesn't help us, and it undermines our national security interests because the consequence of this that we are directly facing because of the Biden administration and the warmongers in Washington is we are now closer to the brink of nuclear war than ever before.
02:01:32.000 How has that made us safer?
02:01:34.000 It hasn't.
02:01:35.000 And 10% for the big guy.
02:01:41.000 Which the fact that no Democrat in Washington, no Democrat in Washington that I've heard at least, and I've been watching pretty closely, has stood up and said, well, hold on a second.
02:01:52.000 All of this evidence that's coming out, more and more evidence that's coming out about the corruption of Hunter Biden and President Biden's culpability in that entire mess...
02:02:05.000 No one is saying, hey, we should probably look into this.
02:02:08.000 They're dismissing it all and saying, oh, you know, the only thing Joe Biden talked about with Hunter Biden's, you know, Ukrainian Burisma executive counterparts, they talked about the weather.
02:02:22.000 I heard a congressman say this to the media, like, what are you guys even worried about?
02:02:26.000 All he talked about was the weather.
02:02:27.000 Yeah.
02:02:28.000 They flew over to Ukraine.
02:02:30.000 He flew over to Ukraine in 2015 with his son to talk about the weather.
02:02:34.000 And then when they came and visited Hunter in D.C. and Hunter called his dad and they talked about the weather.
02:02:40.000 And isn't there somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million that they got from that?
02:02:46.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's what I've heard has been accounted for.
02:02:50.000 Yeah.
02:02:51.000 But then, you know, you hear all kinds of things like, oh, well, how is it that, you know, Joe Biden's grandchildren have $5 million in their trust account?
02:03:00.000 Like, where does that—like, who—I don't know.
02:03:03.000 But the fact that they're not even—that there's not just an accepted— Standard in Washington saying, well, these accusations are being made.
02:03:13.000 There is evidence in communications, written evidence that couldn't have been fabricated.
02:03:18.000 We, as elected representatives of the people, have a responsibility to objectively investigate this and see where it leads.
02:03:27.000 And same in Hawaii.
02:03:28.000 Same everywhere.
02:03:30.000 With Bisson and Green and all these guys, that's the same thing.
02:03:33.000 I mean, you think about, there was millions when they were talking with Hunter Biden, and that was before he was a president.
02:03:40.000 Now he's up in the billions.
02:03:41.000 He's up in, I mean, I would have to think, all this money going to Ukraine, it's much easier to make that money disappear than it is to...
02:03:49.000 To make it disappear in Hawaii.
02:03:51.000 And, you know, they have, what's that saying?
02:03:55.000 Well, just at the best, the government's a money laundering machine.
02:03:58.000 And at the worst, I mean, the devil himself sometimes, you know?
02:04:03.000 A friend of mine was telling me that her friend is an art dealer.
02:04:09.000 And he told her that...
02:04:13.000 Art is, I think she said, one of the most used platforms or vehicles for money laundering.
02:04:21.000 And this was said within the context of how is it that Hunter Biden can sell a piece of art for $500,000?
02:04:29.000 Right.
02:04:30.000 Boom.
02:04:30.000 A million dollars.
02:04:31.000 Boom.
02:04:32.000 So this is what I mean when you look at like, well, okay, so how much money are they actually accounting for that's going directly into his bank account or whatever?
02:04:38.000 I think you got to look at the whole picture.
02:04:40.000 Yeah, and you also have to say, who's buying it?
02:04:43.000 Who are the people buying it?
02:04:44.000 What are their connections?
02:04:46.000 Is it an LLC that's purchasing this from some sort of an offshore account?
02:04:52.000 What's going on?
02:04:53.000 Where's that money coming from?
02:04:56.000 And the fact that the mainstream media, those two whistleblowers from the IRS, the IRS investigative agents, who came out and said basically they were stopped from doing their job and looking into Hunter Biden, By their superiors.
02:05:10.000 The fact that the mainstream media called them so-called whistleblowers, immediately undermining what they were actually doing, putting their entire career and reputation and safety on the line, again, straight out the gate.
02:05:26.000 If you're not falling in line with what the power elite, Democrat elite, wants you to do and their partners in the media, you are immediately discredited.
02:05:37.000 And when people...
02:05:38.000 What is this here, Jamie?
02:05:39.000 Another unknown single buyer purchased 11 Hunter Biden paintings for $875,000.
02:05:47.000 That buyer has reportedly purchased the majority of a $1.38 million total in sales.
02:05:55.000 He likes art?
02:05:56.000 Yeah.
02:05:57.000 He's got a big fan.
02:05:58.000 He's a big fan.
02:05:59.000 The gallery sets the pricing and handles all sales based on the highest ethical standards of the industry.
02:06:04.000 Well, the industry doesn't have high ethical standards.
02:06:06.000 So it's like if you're in the ethical standards of the industry of pimping, you know.
02:06:15.000 And does not disclose the name of the buyer to Hunter Biden.
02:06:19.000 But just what they did with the laptop story.
02:06:21.000 The fact that they suppressed it from Facebook, they suppressed it from Twitter, they did all that.
02:06:25.000 And when Zuckerberg was on the podcast and he said the FBI had contacted them about that, that was a sobering moment.
02:06:31.000 I was like, wait, what?
02:06:33.000 And then when the Twitter files come out and then you read that, you know, then the 51 intelligence, former intelligence agency guys that had signed off on that, that this was Russian disinformation when they had known it wasn't.
02:06:46.000 That right there, when you talk about interference with our elections, when you look at some of the stuff the media is talking about and you see what happened there, weeks before that 2020 election, I think that the whole...
02:07:01.000 That letter came out from the 51 former senior intelligence officials in October, just prior to the November election in 2020, stating this laptop has all the hallmark of Russian disinformation based on nothing.
02:07:20.000 And then you go back and you look at, well, why was that letter instigated?
02:07:24.000 Well then, you know, whatever, campaign senior advisor Tony Blinken to President, to then Vice President, or I guess former Vice President Biden, made a call.
02:07:35.000 He made a call to Mike Morrell within the CIA, or former deputy of the CIA. And then he called a friend and there was a CIA staffer, an active CIA staffer, who helped orchestrate that letter within like a 24-hour period of time.
02:07:54.000 And this is all on the record.
02:07:57.000 Mike Morrell said this to Congress in private testimony that's since been released.
02:08:03.000 But this was instigated because the Biden campaign told him, hey, we need Joe Biden to have a good talking point to use in this next debate against Trump, because we know Trump is going to bring up Hunter Biden's laptop.
02:08:17.000 And we need to give Biden a talking point so that he can immediately dismiss the whole topic of the Hunter Biden laptop.
02:08:24.000 That letter from the 51 senior former intelligence leaders gave him that talking point.
02:08:31.000 He used it in that debate.
02:08:34.000 And it's what was used as the excuse to shut down the New York Post and to shut down anyone who tried to publish the contents of that laptop.
02:08:43.000 Wow.
02:08:43.000 For national security reasons.
02:08:45.000 It's wild.
02:08:45.000 And there's no repercussions.
02:08:47.000 There's no repercussions.
02:08:48.000 But you want to talk about interference in our election.
02:08:50.000 You withheld information from voters that may have, some would say very likely would have persuaded them to not vote for Joe Biden.
02:09:00.000 And the people on the Democratic side, they are so against Trump that they would...
02:09:06.000 Happily take that.
02:09:07.000 Yes.
02:09:08.000 And that they don't care.
02:09:09.000 No qualms.
02:09:10.000 It doesn't bother them.
02:09:11.000 Nope.
02:09:11.000 They're like, look, it did what we wanted it to do.
02:09:14.000 Joe Biden got into office.
02:09:16.000 Right.
02:09:16.000 Better than Trump.
02:09:16.000 It's about them.
02:09:17.000 It's about their power.
02:09:18.000 And that's it.
02:09:19.000 And the true believers are like, yes, better than Trump, better than Trump, better than Trump.
02:09:25.000 Trump's a Russian agent.
02:09:27.000 They'll say all this crazy stuff that they just also heard spit out by the propaganda machine.
02:09:33.000 And the facts don't matter at that point.
02:09:34.000 Are we living in a movie?
02:09:36.000 I heard people talk about The Matrix.
02:09:38.000 What is that spoiler alert, The Matrix or whatever, we're living in a matrix?
02:09:45.000 Well, that's where it gets really complicated.
02:09:48.000 The idea is that we're involved in a simulation, that all life is really just a simulation.
02:09:54.000 And the real problem is when you go to probability theory, which I don't totally understand, but when they talk about the probability, it's more probable that we're living in a simulation than we're not.
02:10:07.000 And if the simulation can exist, and if likely as technology advances will exist, It will probably be undiscernible from reality.
02:10:18.000 And the idea of an entire universe that's most likely filled with intelligent life forms that this simulation hasn't been created is smaller than the idea that a simulation doesn't exist.
02:10:31.000 Wow.
02:10:32.000 But then again, you know, I'm a moron.
02:10:34.000 You start talking to me about things like that.
02:10:36.000 I'm like, I'm just saying words that sound smart, but my puny little brain is like, wait, what?
02:10:42.000 What exactly?
02:10:45.000 What are you saying?
02:10:47.000 So this is not real, but it is real.
02:10:49.000 But there's real consequences.
02:10:51.000 I mean, we know that, right?
02:10:52.000 The fire was real.
02:10:53.000 The consequences of people's lives is real.
02:10:55.000 The war in Ukraine is real.
02:10:57.000 The people are dying.
02:10:58.000 It's real.
02:10:59.000 The propaganda machine is real.
02:11:01.000 East Palestine is real.
02:11:03.000 Whether it's real in a simulation or whether it's real in a carbon – or there is no carbon reality.
02:11:09.000 There is no concrete, rock-solid reality.
02:11:11.000 Everything is a simulation.
02:11:12.000 If you really get down to, like, what atoms are, most of atoms are empty, you know?
02:11:18.000 It's just massive empty space that's very confusing.
02:11:21.000 And then when you get to subatomic particles that exist in different spaces at the exact same time, and somehow or another can be both in a superposition where they can be both moving and still, like, okay, what is this thing that we're arguing about?
02:11:40.000 What is this life that we're living?
02:11:42.000 And how much of this is concrete and real?
02:11:48.000 And how much of this is just...
02:11:49.000 You're talking about childhood trauma and people that are fucked up.
02:11:53.000 Most people.
02:11:54.000 Most people are a little fucked up.
02:11:56.000 And they're just swimming through this world of possibilities and anxiety and not knowing what's...
02:12:02.000 And then you're being lied to by the people that are supposed to be there to take care of you.
02:12:07.000 But it's so obvious that they're not concerned with taking care of you.
02:12:11.000 They're concerned with...
02:12:12.000 I mean, from the moment they get into the White House, they're concerned with re-election.
02:12:17.000 They're concerned with...
02:12:18.000 I mean, this is what happens.
02:12:20.000 Donate, donate, donate.
02:12:22.000 We got to fight off this and that.
02:12:24.000 Donate to the Democratic Party.
02:12:25.000 I mean this is – when our founders kind of formed these founding documents of the United States of America, their vision was having come from the past of the Queen of England and these authoritarian leaders – They expressly intended to keep government as having a very,
02:12:50.000 very, very limited role in our lives.
02:12:52.000 A very limited role in our lives.
02:12:54.000 When you look at the Constitution Bill of Rights, it's limited to saying what the government is not allowed to touch, what they're not allowed to do.
02:13:02.000 You look at...
02:13:04.000 There's a reason for that, for us to express our individual sovereignty, to think for ourselves, to live our lives, to be able to truly live free.
02:13:13.000 When you look at, for example, what actually happened after the Lahaina fire blew through and destroyed the entire historic town of Lahaina, what happened?
02:13:26.000 Government didn't show up at all.
02:13:28.000 It was people helping people.
02:13:31.000 I think?
02:13:55.000 Here.
02:13:55.000 I'm here for you.
02:13:57.000 And that's what we saw in an incredible way happening all across West Maui, Maui County, but also the support and help and heart and prayers that was coming in from people all over the country and around the world.
02:14:12.000 When we talk about going back to the basics of limiting government's control, of limiting the responsibilities that they have, and instead allowing people to live and take care of each other,
02:14:27.000 I mean, this has application in every respect.
02:14:29.000 You talk about education, BJ. And how little choice parents actually have in being able to choose what kind of education is best for their kids.
02:14:38.000 Is it a home school?
02:14:39.000 Is it a charter school?
02:14:40.000 Is it a religious school?
02:14:41.000 It's like, what is it?
02:14:42.000 Parents in so many cases, and increasingly so under the Biden administration, are seeing their rights as parents to care for their kids in the best way that they know being taken away.
02:14:54.000 And school officials and education unions literally, and the Biden administration literally saying, That we have the right to determine your child's education.
02:15:06.000 You, as a parent, do not.
02:15:07.000 Parents getting arrested by going to Board of Education meetings, having themselves be silent.
02:15:12.000 Exactly.
02:15:12.000 The parents getting arrested while they're going to these meetings is wild.
02:15:17.000 Not even BJ Penn got arrested.
02:15:21.000 But parents going to these meetings to complain about the education their children are receiving and the propaganda the children are receiving and then them getting arrested and also attempts for them to be labeled.
02:15:33.000 And being labeled terrorists by the federal government.
02:15:36.000 Yeah.
02:15:37.000 That's insane.
02:15:38.000 That's insane.
02:15:40.000 Do you not think the parents are concerned?
02:15:43.000 Do you not think that their concerns are valid?
02:15:45.000 That's supposed to be open for debate.
02:15:48.000 And when that debate gets said, then people get to decide which side is right.
02:15:52.000 But when you silence debate, all that tells me is you're scared to lose.
02:15:56.000 And you don't want to lose this.
02:15:57.000 But the question is like, why?
02:16:00.000 Why would the government not want people to be involved in the education of their children?
02:16:04.000 I can see no...
02:16:05.000 Not want parents to be involved, do you mean?
02:16:06.000 Not want parents, rather, to be involved in the education of children.
02:16:08.000 Why would...
02:16:10.000 That doesn't...
02:16:10.000 Because they want a generation of people to be raised who are conformists, not critical thinkers.
02:16:19.000 That's what it comes down to.
02:16:21.000 It is about exerting that control and making sure these little kids, from the very beginning, No, hey, yeah, I'm on a tight leash and these are the boundaries and this is how I must live my life and operate under the authority of these people who've appointed themselves.
02:16:36.000 We don't need no education.
02:16:41.000 I love that song.
02:16:43.000 When do we say enough is enough?
02:16:46.000 I mean, say they're going to put...
02:16:51.000 I think they're going to put Trump back in because I think that's why they're doing this whole pandemic and everybody's going to say, that's a believable story.
02:16:59.000 And I hope Trump goes out there and says, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer, Moderna, all you guys are going to prison.
02:17:08.000 You know, I did Warp Speed to help the people and you guys made a myocarditis shot.
02:17:12.000 Fauci, you too.
02:17:13.000 You know, and I want to see, you know, something like that.
02:17:17.000 Do you think that they're going to let Trump get into office?
02:17:20.000 I think that's why maybe they're doing this pandemic.
02:17:23.000 I don't know.
02:17:23.000 No one's buying it.
02:17:26.000 I think they are doing, and by they, I mean...
02:17:31.000 Dr. Evil.
02:17:32.000 Well, no, it's bigger than that.
02:17:34.000 It's bigger.
02:17:35.000 By they, I mean the Democrat elite that have vast control.
02:17:41.000 It's not just the President Biden or the Biden administration.
02:17:44.000 It's the media.
02:17:45.000 It's the politicized Department of Justice.
02:17:48.000 The timing of all of these charges against Trump is not an accident.
02:17:55.000 The fact that they want to hold multiple court hearings for these charges the day before Super Tuesday.
02:18:14.000 It's not an accident.
02:18:16.000 This is all happening right now.
02:18:18.000 It's Banana Republic stuff.
02:18:20.000 It really is.
02:18:21.000 And that's what they're doing is, again, these terrible things that are happening in our country are happening because we have people in power who care more about themselves and their power than they do about the people, this country, our constitution, our democracy.
02:18:34.000 They are setting this incredibly dangerous precedent.
02:18:38.000 That now, much like many banana republics in the world, whoever's in power has the ability to politicize and weaponize that power to go after their political opponent.
02:18:52.000 Take away whatever people think about Trump or whatever.
02:18:56.000 The consequences and implications of what is actually happening and what so many of the Democrat elite are justifying in the name of protecting democracy is actually destroying it.
02:19:07.000 And when you look at the charges, like when he gets indicted, where the day before there's a scandal, there's a chart of the revelations that have come about about Biden, and then day after Trump gets arraigned.
02:19:24.000 Trump gets indicted.
02:19:26.000 It's crazy!
02:19:29.000 The whole thing is just so...
02:19:32.000 So how much do we take?
02:19:34.000 What do we do?
02:19:35.000 What can be done?
02:19:38.000 I don't know at this point.
02:19:41.000 It starts with us as Americans taking our own responsibility seriously.
02:19:52.000 In the Constitution and Bill of Rights, it talks about our government exists with the consent of the governed.
02:20:02.000 That's us.
02:20:03.000 There is more of us.
02:20:05.000 We the people, that's us.
02:20:06.000 But these guys, yeah.
02:20:07.000 Yeah, but then when you have things like the deep state, they're in forever.
02:20:11.000 Oh, there's no question.
02:20:11.000 There's no question that these powerful entities are very real and they want nothing more than to hold on to their power.
02:20:20.000 But isn't it fascinating that that was not generally discussed before 2016?
02:20:25.000 Before Trump got into office, that was not a big concern that people had, like the CIA or the FBI? Because he's the guy who broke through.
02:20:33.000 You look at what the FBI and what the government was doing before that election even happened to try to take him off the field, to try to eliminate him from being a choice that voters could seriously consider.
02:20:47.000 You look at what the mainstream media, even Fox News did at that time.
02:21:00.000 Yeah.
02:21:01.000 Yeah.
02:21:01.000 Yeah.
02:21:01.000 Yeah.
02:21:18.000 It's going to be really wild to see what happens in November.
02:21:21.000 I'm very nervous about it.
02:21:22.000 I'm very nervous about the country just as a whole.
02:21:25.000 I'm really worried that people are going to lose their fucking minds.
02:21:27.000 You know, and that's going to be the tipping point.
02:21:30.000 And then people are going to agree to even more stupid shit.
02:21:33.000 And it seems they just want us to fight with each other.
02:21:38.000 All day long, they want the left and the right to fight.
02:21:40.000 That's where so much of what I'm dedicating my time and energy to is using every platform I have available to talk about the fundamentals of who we are as Americans.
02:21:53.000 What were the values and principles this country was founded upon?
02:21:57.000 And we can have different ideas on political issues here and there, but if we're standing on a common ground of recognizing our fundamental rights and freedoms, That is a pathway forward for us to make sure that we do all that we can to protect it, that we be critical thinkers,
02:22:13.000 that we seek out the truth, that we speak the truth, that we're willing to have conversations with people who we might disagree with and know that, hey, you know what?
02:22:21.000 I still respect you.
02:22:22.000 You're still my friend.
02:22:23.000 It's cool.
02:22:24.000 And by doing so and exercising our responsibility to vote for people who actually care about the people versus more of these same politicians who clearly only care about themselves and their own power,
02:22:42.000 we can and must start to make that shift to save our country.
02:22:47.000 Tulsi, what's in your future politically?
02:22:51.000 It's a good question.
02:22:54.000 I have seen, I have experienced what the power elite and all of their propaganda arms are capable of and how they tanked my candidacy in 2020. If there were a viable path forward,
02:23:16.000 I would take it.
02:23:20.000 There are different possibilities that I'm looking at, but my goal is to serve our country, and my goal is to be in a position to make the most positive impact to serve the American people in our country.
02:23:33.000 Beautiful.
02:23:35.000 We need more people like you.
02:23:36.000 Yeah, we really do.
02:23:37.000 We really need more people like this woman.
02:23:39.000 There's not a lot of people like you.
02:23:40.000 And you exposed the system in so many ways because you were everything that everybody claimed they were looking for.
02:23:48.000 On its face, right?
02:23:50.000 All the superficial things.
02:23:51.000 Everything.
02:23:52.000 Eloquent.
02:23:53.000 A leader.
02:23:54.000 A person who served.
02:23:56.000 Congresswoman.
02:23:57.000 Everything.
02:23:57.000 Everything.
02:23:59.000 Impeccable record, everything.
02:24:01.000 And still, they're like, not her.
02:24:03.000 No fucking way.
02:24:04.000 Because I didn't do what they wanted.
02:24:06.000 There you go.
02:24:07.000 I wouldn't be a puppet.
02:24:08.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:24:10.000 That's it.
02:24:10.000 Thank you for that.
02:24:11.000 Thank you for that.
02:24:12.000 And thank you, BJ, too.
02:24:13.000 Thanks for coming, brother.
02:24:14.000 I appreciate you.
02:24:15.000 Thank you.
02:24:16.000 Always a pleasure.
02:24:18.000 Yeah, BJ, you know, I always tell people, at the end of the day, you know, as far as your MMA career, you've got to look at BJ in his prime.
02:24:26.000 I say that all the time.
02:24:27.000 Yep.
02:24:29.000 I was there.
02:24:30.000 I was there in your prime.
02:24:31.000 You were a motherfucker, dude.
02:24:33.000 You were a motherfucker.
02:24:34.000 I was telling Pat earlier, BJ, you walked away, but I remember as a kid growing up in Hawaii who loved martial arts, at the very beginning, seeing BJ's rise coming out of Hawaii, obviously we were so proud.
02:24:48.000 I was very much a tomboy in martial arts and all kinds of stuff as a kid growing up.
02:24:52.000 And it was when you guys came out with your white Ruka shorts with the black belt.
02:24:57.000 I was like, oh man, I need one of those.
02:25:00.000 Gotta represent.
02:25:02.000 Thank you.
02:25:03.000 It was an awesome time.
02:25:04.000 I think some of these young guys that are only thinking about fighters that are in the current era, they missed your era.
02:25:10.000 They gotta go back and watch.
02:25:13.000 Those Sean Shirk days, the Diego Sanchez days.
02:25:18.000 You were the man.
02:25:19.000 Man, I just moved back in with my mom because she's getting older and I was cleaning out my house and you kind of realize life, it's a few memories and a couple pictures.
02:25:32.000 That's what life is, right?
02:25:33.000 A lot of it.
02:25:34.000 Make the most of it.
02:25:36.000 Well, thank you both for coming here and talking about this.
02:25:38.000 I think it's not getting nearly enough time discussed in the world, and people need to just understand how fucked it is.
02:25:46.000 Thank you very much.
02:25:47.000 So that we can fix it.
02:25:48.000 Yes.
02:25:49.000 Yes.
02:25:49.000 Yes.
02:25:49.000 Yes.
02:25:50.000 Thank you.
02:25:50.000 Thank you.
02:25:51.000 We'll figure this out.
02:25:52.000 Thank you.
02:25:52.000 Bye, everybody.
02:25:53.000 Thank you.