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00:01:39.000After thinking about it for years, I think it's the same mechanism in my brain that allows me to think quickly on stage that keeps my brain up at night.
00:03:04.000Like, physically feel a big difference.
00:03:06.000Like, if sleep was a supplement, if I could take a sleep supplement, and it gives you that feeling you get when you're, like, fully rested, oh, my God, you're just better.
00:06:04.000The real people that are running the show are the people that are getting these massive defense contracts and massive pharmaceutical contracts.
00:06:13.000The billions and trillions of dollars that's being generated by various industries, that's what's running the show.
00:08:12.000I will say I wasn't as scared as I've been in a lot of places we've been.
00:08:18.000There is some kind of solace to the house, but you get to know the history of it, and it does make sense that there would be something here.
00:08:26.000I mean, it's on some ley lines of water underground.
00:09:55.000And this is one of the reasons why people kind of universally support this idea that if someone was murdered in a house, you must tell the people, inform the people that are about to buy it.
00:10:05.000You have to tell them, hey, somebody got murdered in this house.
00:10:08.000Maybe you don't want to buy this house.
00:10:56.000I think the way you think has an unmeasured effect in terms of like this, there's energy that you put out, there's connections you make with people.
00:11:12.000So what my concern is, is like if you go into a place with a pre-existing knowledge of ghosts, like you think ghosts are here, you think ghosts are real, you have this thought in your mind that you maybe experience a ghost in this place that's haunted.
00:11:30.000You're at this elevated level of anticipation.
00:11:34.000You're probably really nervous and kind of freaked out, and your imagination starts firing up.
00:11:39.000And I'm not even saying that these people are lying or that they're seeing things that aren't there.
00:11:45.000I'm saying maybe you make things show up.
00:13:08.000I was so excited to go there and just witness it.
00:13:11.000And they sent me by myself on basically a game of hide-and-seek where I had to go find them in the ship somewhere after I had to count to 100 by myself.
00:13:20.000It was the most terrifying place I've ever been because if you've never been in the bowel of a ship, it's so unfamiliar.
00:14:52.000Because I can only imagine if I was the only person in there and you see those fucking animated figures in there by themselves, that to me is like a perfect scary movie.
00:15:02.000But what I was getting to is there's a scene when you're going down the river in the raft where these two ships are shooting at each other with cannonballs.
00:15:11.000And it makes you think about, what the fuck?
00:15:14.000What the fuck that would have been like living back then?
00:17:18.000The edition mentions, typical passage from New York to the English Channel for a well-found sailing vessel of about 2,000 tons was around 25 to 30 days, with ships logging 100 to 150 miles per day on average.
00:18:33.000And then in the movie, you find out there has been a very small group of mermaids that have existed in the ocean, hiding from humanity, because we've only discovered 10% of the ocean.
00:21:37.000But then the guy disappears, so he's making a bunch of videos on TikTok, and then he just disappeared, and everyone's like, well, what the fuck happened?
00:21:42.000Wait, I don't know if I saw anything in the video.
00:24:18.000He used to go, it was a while back, and he used to go legitimately by himself with a very limited amount of tools and he would live in wild places.
00:25:00.000So Les is obsessed with Bigfoot, too, so he went looking for Bigfoot.
00:25:04.000But there was, you know, on one of the episodes, they're looking at this footage, and I'm looking at footage that looks to me like a guy in a monkey suit.
00:32:12.000This guy was a guy who had the chimp as a pet and raised it, but it got too big and they couldn't take it anymore, so they brought it to a chimpanzee shelter.
00:32:21.000And it was his birthday, so they brought a cake for the chimp for his birthday.
00:32:25.000And the other chimps were so jealous that he got a cake and they didn't that they got out of the cage and tore the guy apart.
00:32:35.000Yeah, because chimps get very, very jealous.
00:32:37.000The fact that they can't even, like...
00:39:39.000And also, there's a thing that happens with animals.
00:39:42.000We don't totally understand it, but they've done this study with foxes.
00:39:47.000Where they took foxes and over a period of like not that many generations, what they did was anytime a fox displayed any aggression towards people, they killed it.
00:40:02.000And over a certain period of time, all the foxes that were left, their jaws had shrank, their ears were more floppy.
00:40:13.000They started, like, giving in to the idea of domestication.
00:40:18.000And they literally started softening their appearance.
00:40:21.000They weren't alert like a fox would be if it was, like, you know, a little killer.
00:40:29.000So for the last 59 years a team of Russian geneticists led by Ludmila Trout have been running one of the most important biology experiments of the 20th and now 21st century.
00:40:44.000The experiment was the brainchild of Trout's mentor Dmitry Believ Who in 1959 began an experiment to study the process of domestication in real time.
00:40:55.000He was especially keen on understanding the domestication of wolves to dogs, but rather than use wolves, he used silver foxes as his subjects.
00:41:03.000Here I provide a brief overview of how the silver fox domestication study began and what the results to date have taught us.
00:41:20.000So this is, I'm probably butchering the story, but over time, these things started to change and they softened their appearance and they dropped their ears.
00:41:32.000And so there's also a thing that happens with pigs where the opposite happens.
00:41:37.000When you take a domesticated pig and you release it in the wild, they morph within six...
00:41:45.000I think it's a very short amount of time.
00:41:47.000I want to say it's less than two months of living in the wild.
00:41:51.000They start to display different characteristics.
00:43:13.000But if you look at it that way, right, if a pig becomes harder in the wild and a wolf becomes softer with domestication, if you just kept doing that and, like, softening it, like, when you associate those little tiny fluffy dogs,
00:43:53.000The needs of society, especially society like ours, it's not engaged in war on our shores, where there's not a physical threat of actual violence from the enemy.
00:44:04.000You know, you tend to soften things up.
00:44:07.000And the same sort of experiment is going on with male human beings.
00:47:03.000So they're just constantly pumping out kids.
00:47:06.000And when you let them grow out in the wild, they turn back into what they originally were.
00:47:11.000So it makes sense that if you took dogs and you like slowly gave them food all the time and all the, you know, the wolves that were like bitch-ass wolves who couldn't hunt anymore.
00:47:44.000A mind-blowing video recently posted by PBS Eons reveals that whales were actually predatory land animals, the same ones that would later become wolves, specifically.
00:47:56.000So, the animal branched off in the water and became whales, and on the ground became wolves.
00:48:34.000You know, the thing about hippos is it's one of those other animals that, for whatever reason, when we anthropomorphize, when we give them, like, human characteristics, we make them sweet.
00:53:35.000And so they're interacting with people constantly online.
00:53:39.000So if you see people fighting on Twitter, if you say, like, a controversial post goes up about anything, whether foreign policy, trans rights, abortion, Second Amendment, anything, if you go into one of those popular posts,
00:53:58.000Crazed right-wing and crazed left-wing opinions.
00:54:02.000Occasionally you click on them and if you go to, I should say occasionally, oftentimes you'll click on them and you go to a page that seems oddly unhuman.
00:54:14.000There's something like a real personality behind it and you go into it and you see that they're always engaging on these very specific issues and they're always being like very confrontational and it kind of discourages people that disagree with them from interacting with them and it kind of encourages people that love to fight with people to fight back.
00:54:36.000So you get all this interaction and And these people do it to steer conversations and get people to lose faith in democracy, lose faith in the police's ability to protect you, lose faith in whether or not we can unite racially or sexually,
00:54:53.000whether we can be a harmonious country.
00:55:16.000And you could get people to do a lot of really dumb shit.
00:55:19.000Like if you wanted to get people to believe that the Earth is flat, or if you wanted to get people to believe that the Earth is hollow and there's dinosaurs inside of it and aliens live in there, you could get people to believe that.
00:55:31.000And then they would start fighting about it online.
00:55:33.000And then you could get people to believe that, you know, there's been a bunch of them.
00:55:39.000There's been a bunch of them that are like mainstream propaganda things, like the Russia collusion hoax with Trump.
00:55:45.000It took us like three years to figure that out.
00:57:14.000We need to support the war in Ukraine, and the United States has never done anything to encourage Russia invading Ukraine, including helping NATO move arms closer to their border.
00:57:30.000Imagine if you had to do that every couple of months and go over that and that's how people decided whether or not you could go to the grocery store today or you had to wait till Saturday or whether or not you could buy a plane ticket ever.
00:57:44.000The thing is now people feel like voluntarily they need to voice their opinions on those things.
00:59:31.000Do you go to the gym right when you land?
00:59:33.000No, not necessarily, but depending on what time I land, I think.
00:59:37.000Because I like to work out before the show, just to get my blood pumping a little bit, because I wake up most days so tired that I'm like, let me at least get a little energized, get my body moving.
00:59:45.000Isn't that ironic that when you're tired, the best thing you do is something difficult and you wake up?
01:04:05.000And when you're just sitting there and you can't do the normal thing that you do, you start thinking, okay, okay, okay, feel sorry for myself.
01:04:17.000And if you're a hustler, if you're a guy who's like, you know, like a guy like Andrew...
01:04:21.000Who's always trying to figure things out and get ahead and do better.
01:04:25.000Yeah, it's like so he created like a nose and by the way It's a totally different style of comedy than his stand-up which is interesting because it's these rapid-fire punchlines where a stand-up is much more engaging and He pauses more he laughs a lot personable.
01:04:44.000Yeah, so this is like a different kind of comedy But it was like really the best kind of comedy for the pandemic Short attention span, rapid fire jokes, very silly, and turn your phone sideways.
01:05:31.000Is that you can't just set out to create a successful show like that, or a successful thing like that, and throw a bunch of money at it and know that it's going to be successful.
01:05:44.000You have to let them become successful, then you acquire them.
01:05:50.000Because they'll give up, just like they give up with a TV show.
01:05:54.000If you have a TV show on ABC, and then the first few episodes come out, and it doesn't do well, and then it drops off with the fourth, You're done, son.
01:06:03.000But if you have something that you've developed on your own, and these videos go viral naturally, then it makes sense that you have a channel where there's 10 seconds of these videos that have already gone viral, and people know to look for them.
01:06:18.000But if you're trying to get people to sign up for some new fucking thing while YouTube already exists...
01:06:28.000Unless you're completely uncensored, like Rumble or something like that.
01:11:38.000And you gotta imagine that, like, if you're like a young female celebrity, there's probably already face swaps of you online in porn scenes.
01:11:47.000Yet there's no good footage of Bigfoot.
01:13:45.000I won't say that was like 2013 or 2014, but I think they just found another one in China that seems to be different than any other human being they found before, too.
01:15:07.000And they think there might still be some of those left in the wild.
01:15:11.000I know this is a cross-pollination of subjects right now, but has there been any thought as to these smaller bones being related to, like, aliens, per se?
01:15:21.000Because sometimes they say they're tiny people.
01:15:42.000We were seeded with alien DNA. And so they took these savage lower primates, like the chimpanzees still exist, right?
01:15:50.000They took these savage lower primates, and with a specific group of them, they manipulated their DNA to give them creativity, intelligence, the ability to communicate, doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years, which is...
01:24:09.000Yeah, because I also, and nobody really knows this because all my clips are about crowd work, but most of my jokes are stories.
01:24:16.000I don't know if I have a joke shorter than like three minutes.
01:24:19.000So with me not really being out there and experiencing a lot of things, I am curious because I'm about to shoot my next special in September.
01:24:25.000And when I start all over to build this brand new hour, I'm like, what is going to be the theme of it?
01:24:29.000Is it going to be about my current state of life?
01:25:19.000Like last night, we've been doing this tour for the better part of this year and we're in these amazing theaters from 1,500 to 6,000, which is incredible.
01:25:28.000But sometimes you have to remember that's not always real stand-up.
01:25:31.000For some new shit that I'm working on for the upcoming special, I popped in a couple local spots here last night where it was like 25 people the first one and like 30 the next one.
01:26:10.000Because if you're up there, I noticed the other day, you could do that in a large crowd of 3,000 people because there's this sort of weird disconnect.
01:26:41.000And also, I realized once I went to watch Louis Black, and we were doing the same place the next night, and we got there early, and Joey and I went across the street, and it was like right there.
01:26:53.000And so we were sitting in the audience, and when he was killing, when he got big laughs, he would occasionally have a tag that he would hit that I didn't hear, because so many people were laughing.
01:27:04.000And I was like, oh, wow, that's something to take into consideration because I didn't think about that because we were like in like probably the 30th row back and it was a pretty big theater.
01:28:51.000The thing is, you're really in there with the people as opposed to a theater.
01:28:56.000See, the thing about, or if you're doing an arena and it doesn't have a round, the thing is like you have this big-ass stage and you're above everybody and there's like a gap.
01:29:06.000And then, so there's the stage, which is you, and then there's them.
01:29:10.000But when you're in the round, Then it's everyone in a circle.
01:30:11.000But it was just the feel of all those people having a good time.
01:30:17.000There's like just this wave of fun and positive feeling that's like in the air that I think people...
01:30:25.000It's like that thing that I was saying that there's things in the world that you can't measure, but they're real and we seek them out.
01:30:34.000You know, we seek out these weird moments where people collectively can experience something at the same time.
01:30:41.000I love that, like, psychological sync up of there's just something contagious of being in the middle of a crowd of people enjoying themselves that just takes...
01:30:50.000So you want to enjoy yourself as well.
01:31:46.000I just don't think it's a good thing to be by yourself too much.
01:31:49.000I think that's one of the things that really freaked everybody out about the pandemic.
01:31:53.000When everything got locked down and people were terrified and they were in their homes for months and months at a time without any interaction with other people.
01:32:01.000When they finally did see people, they didn't know how to behave.
01:32:20.000Because that's like the most specific thing I've been trying to build with the tour I'm on right now is I wanted to make sure I surrounded myself with people who were going to make all of this journey positive and fun for me.
01:35:35.000It's terrible for you to just do, you know, supposedly those American spirits are better because it's just tobacco, but all of it is like burning leaves in your lungs.
01:40:23.000Every single week there's some new dance that every girl from 11 years old to 40 year old is doing, right?
01:40:31.000But to my recollection, at least up until 2015, if somebody came up with a dance, the Dougie, the Cat Daddy, that person was famous for making that dance a thing, right?
01:40:44.000There's never an originator of these dances.
01:40:47.000And I have a theory that TikTok does AI. Dances of trends that they push out to people's streams and go, and then everybody goes, oh, this is the trend.
01:42:29.000And now all of a sudden we're locked into this thing that we don't have Any like reference of history for there's no like well back in the 1800s when high-speed internet first was available There was a lot of confusion a lot of propaganda got pushed by various nations until mind reading became available You know and then it made lying impossible like that's literally what we probably need to get out of this mess We need mind reading We need mind reading.
01:42:59.000And we got to get to it before they have complete and total control of your money.
01:43:06.000We got to do it before people agree to a centralized digital currency that's attached to a social credit score system.
01:43:13.000If we can get to Mind reading before that, then people will uprise and then they'll realize like, okay, this is outrageous.
01:43:22.000Like this is not how the world's supposed to be run.
01:43:24.000And if it's ubiquitous, like if the whole world has mind reading software, it makes all the other stuff very difficult.
01:43:32.000I mean, you could somehow or another force compliance, but it's going to be very difficult to do that with all the soldiers in sync now.
01:43:39.000It's going to be very difficult to lead armies where people are going to know what your actual intentions are.
01:43:45.000They're going to know that this is motivated by money and that this report that you've brought in front of Congress about the movement of these terrorists and the dangers of their weapons of mass destruction, we're going to know it's not true.
01:44:04.000Do you have any idea how mean it is to bring guests on the show, get them so high, and then talk about the worst possible realistic outcomes of this world?
01:44:12.000I don't know if it's the worst possible, man.
01:44:14.000I have to go build a fucking bunker after this and get all my cash and gold immediately.
01:46:02.000Quake is an amazing 3D online deathmatch game where you're running around with like rocket launchers and rail guns and you're running through these mazes and you're fighting other people that are on your screen in like real time.
01:48:46.000So these kids who play this game, and maybe even adults, they get so damn addicted that they learn all the maps inside and out.
01:48:54.000So they know all the moves on the maps, like there's certain places where you can hop from one ledge to another ledge, and you can camp and stand there, and they come through the doorway, you blast them.
01:49:03.000There's all sorts of weird, sneaky little tricks in these games.
01:52:11.000They actually just made an announcement about that that's going to change.
01:52:13.000You get something like eight strikes, which I don't know exactly how they're going to count those, but they have AI listening now, so all those game chats are being recorded over the main store.
01:53:00.000Well, it's also, it's like, you feel like you're protected, you're in Sweden, or you're in fucking Montana, you're on the internet, it's a fake name, you know, you're Superkiller69, whatever, and you're out there fucking people up,
01:54:02.000But the thing is, they're not gonna fucking win.
01:54:04.000You know, I always wondered that about cops.
01:54:08.000Do they have to sign waivers, right, on the show Cops?
01:54:12.000Yeah, so Cops does, but I told you that show that's been going on, it was called Life P, it's called Something Else Now.
01:54:17.000They have a weird workaround, because it's live on TV, streaming for three hours a night, and it's like, they always say, they're following me, don't worry about them, the cops are doing a documentary about us, not you.
01:54:28.000And I guess that's the loophole, just sort of like the prank calls in Vegas kind of thing.
01:54:36.000Man, can you imagine just being that fucked up?
01:54:38.000You're like, yeah, I still want to see the tape back when I get out of jail.
01:54:41.000Well, you're on meth, and your fucking pants are down by your ankles, and you're on TV, there's a light in your face, and you just piss all over your pants, and you're like, huh?
02:00:35.000The average person wouldn't do well in there.
02:00:37.000No, there's people who the first day when they're getting checked in and they're just like in that cold cell with everybody else while they're getting all their paperwork and shit done.
02:00:43.000Because they book you like an actual image.
02:02:53.000Yeah, and then this guy, he's just like a crazy, I forget exactly the, I don't know if it's like children or whatever, but they think he's got bodies buried somewhere.
02:03:59.000Countless theories have gained traction over the years, pointing a finger at various men who share physical markers or specific interests with the famed killer.
02:04:06.000They did crack the code, though, but I don't think they know who he is.
02:05:35.000I mean, there's probably, like, legitimate psychologists like Jordan Peterson can answer this much more accurately.
02:05:42.000But I would imagine there's something, because it's such a forbidden thing to do to kill people.
02:05:46.000Someone just kills people all the time.
02:05:48.000There's probably some bizarre attraction that some mentally ill people have to someone like that.
02:05:55.000It's probably based on DNA, because if you wanted your children to survive, you'd be better off, back in the barbarian days, with a slaughterer, not a slaughteree.
02:06:38.000Well, I think scientifically they believe that if vampires existed, there would be no more humans because it would just be a matter of time.
02:06:48.000They would just get us all and then turn us all into vampires.
02:06:51.000And then just the amount of people that would get turned into vampires, it would be an epidemic.
02:08:23.000Clinical vampirism, more commonly known as Renfield syndrome, is an obsession with drinking blood.
02:08:30.000The earliest presentation of clinical vampirism in psychiatric literature was a psychoanalytic interpretation of two cases.
02:08:40.000Contributed by Richard L. Vandenberg and John F. Kelly, the authors point out over 50,000 people addicted to drinking blood have appeared in the psychiatric literature from 1892 to 2010. 50,000 people!
02:08:55.000This was documented in the work of Austrian forensic psychiatrist Richard von Kraftibing.
02:09:06.000Many medical publications concerning clinical vampirism can be found in the literature of forensic psychiatry with the behavior being reported as an aspect of extraordinary violent crimes.
02:09:21.000So it's a real psychological disorder.
02:09:24.000At least 50,000 people in the past 150 years.
02:09:27.000So the Elizabeth Bathory thing is an interesting one because the story is that Elizabeth Bathory was this woman and she was beautiful when she was younger.
02:09:36.000But as she started growing older, she started murdering young maidens and bathing in their blood.
02:09:42.000She was this evil, psychotic serial killer.
02:09:48.000That's a good story, but there's also a counter story to that, that what they were trying to do was accuse her of this so they could take her land.
02:09:57.000Because she was in control of this very coveted kingdom.
02:10:03.000And they essentially put her in house arrest, because she was a royal, even though she was a serial killer, supposedly.
02:10:09.000But there seems to be some possibility that there might be fuckery.
02:10:30.000Several historians have argued that far from being a cruel and barbaric killer, Bathory was in fact merely a victim of a conspiracy.
02:10:37.000The Hungarian professor, try that one, Laszlo Nagy claimed the accusations and proceedings against Bathory were politically motivated due to her extensive wealth and ownership of large lands in Hungary.
02:10:53.000It is possible that Bathory's wealth and power made her a perceived threat to the leaders of Hungary, whose political landscape was overrun with major rivalries at the time.
02:11:04.000Bathory appeared to have supported her nephew.
02:11:07.000Gabor Bathory, ruler of Transylvania and rival to Hungary.
02:11:11.000It was not uncommon to accuse a wealthy widow or murder or murder witchcraft?
02:11:17.000I think they meant say of murder witchcraft or sexual misconduct to seize their lands.
02:11:41.000According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Bathory is the most prolific female murderer and the most prolific murderer of the Western world.
02:11:48.000This is despite the precise number of her victims remaining unknown and debated.
02:11:54.000Upon collecting testimony from 300 witnesses, Thurzo determined that Bathory had tortured and killed more than 600 victims.
02:12:02.000The highest number cited was 650. However, this number came from a claim by a servant girl that Bathory's court official had seen the figure in one of her private books.
02:12:15.000Bathory's victims were said to have been hidden a variety of places, but the most common method was to have the body secretly buried in the church graveyards at night.
02:12:27.000So this was a servant girl that claimed that she saw a book that said that she had killed 600 people.
02:12:35.000Yeah, she's like writing down in their blood.
02:12:40.000411. Imagine being such a psycho that you've documented all the people that you killed and bathe in their blood.
02:15:03.000So it's a movie about this case, but they splice in real footage of her therapy sessions she had to go to, that she was going to while she was being abducted each night.
02:16:05.000But most of the stories I've ever heard are people in their bed, they can't move, aliens abduct them, or they're in a car, the car stops, they wake up.
02:16:58.000Wouldn't you just assume those psychedelic chemicals would vary?
02:17:02.000And wouldn't you just assume that sometimes maybe even people are in very agitated, anxiety-ridden states, high cortisol levels, perhaps maybe those chemicals are coming out in an abundance too.
02:17:19.000Now, if you're lying in bed and you're having an insanely vivid and There's a terrifying interaction with aliens every night.
02:17:31.000Because your brain is just dumping psychedelics into you.
02:17:35.000And this is your big fear, so you're gonna get abducted by aliens again.
02:17:38.000And then there they are again, leaning over your bed and reaching for you.
02:18:14.000And it feels real because it is real and because we're thinking about the ability to come in contact with other life forms as being a physical thing.
02:18:23.000It might be that there's a chemical gateway in your mind that when breached you enter into a dimension where physical bodies don't exist anymore and everything moves in this constant soup of geometric patterns and that Whatever your consciousness is,
02:18:44.000whatever your soul is, is decoupled from the body and thrown into this realm.
02:18:50.000I imagine that's probably what happens at death.
02:19:49.000I mean, we're just assuming, like, before anybody invented a cell phone camera, like, if you tried to show that to someone from 1700, they'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
02:20:02.000The idea of transforming, or rather, traveling through another dimension Even in a non-physical sense, even in like a hologram sense, and existing in a space that's completely different from the dimension that you exist in.
02:21:25.000We just don't live in the future where you can travel from one dimension to another and exist in this other dimension as long as this person is in a certain psychedelic state.
02:23:08.000Yeah, that it's all by this strange mathematical process that exists where everything gets more and more complex.
02:23:17.000Everything from the beginning to now and then the humans and whatever is past humans, they're just constantly making things more complicated and more advanced.
02:23:28.000Even like the way planets form and life grows on them and then that life figures out gunpowder.
02:24:00.000It's kind of weird to think that Here's one of the weird ones.
02:24:05.000People don't ever want to believe in anything other than scientific facts.
02:24:10.000And when you're examining the universe, we base it on the information that we can currently get from the web telescope and from space exploration and all the stuff that we've done.
02:24:22.000So we have this understanding of the universe, but it all relies on a miracle.
02:24:45.000But it's almost like to throw in your face, like the more you figure out about everything, the more you figure out everything about the vastness of the universe, black holes and what is inside of them.
02:25:24.000If it wasn't in space, if it itself is space, where the fuck was it?
02:25:27.000It's almost like as intelligent as people get, as they get more and more advanced, more and more knowledge, They have to kind of always admit they don't know shit.
02:25:37.000Because there's no way you know what happened.
02:25:42.000No one has ever come up with any fucking reasoning that makes any sense why this one thing would be smaller than the head of a pin and then become this infinite expansion that we see in front of us.
02:26:24.000There's also a theory that different universes collide with each other and that they're like membranes and they collide with each other and that could be what's creating big bangs.
02:26:33.000That would make the most amount of sense for a reaction of that size.
02:26:42.000And we had Brian Keating on, who's explaining that these people that are saying that the universe is not 13.7 billion, that it might be 26 billion.
02:26:51.000He said that's really based on the development of these galaxies that exist.
02:26:56.000And it's not definitive proof that the universe is that old.
02:26:59.000But even like 13 billion, what are you saying?
02:27:01.000I know there's science behind it, but yeah, what?