The Joe Rogan Experience - October 12, 2023


Joe Rogan Experience #2048 - Reggie Watts


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2 hours and 46 minutes

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191.20792

Word Count

31,817

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3,587

Misogynist Sentences

29


Summary

In this episode, we talk about a variety of different types of drugs and their effects on your brain. We also talk about our experiences with them and how they affect our lives in general. We hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you feel a little buzzed and helps you get through your day to day life a little better. We hope that you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed making it and that you can relate to some of the topics we discuss in this episode! Stay tuned for our next episode next Wednesday where we'll be talking about a new drug called Kratom and how to get high on it. Stay tuned to the end of the episode to hear us talk about some of our favorite drugs we've tried and how we feel about them! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this podcast! xoxo, Caitlyn & Jordan Music: and Art: . and Music: "Solo" by Zapsplat (feat. Jeff Perla) & (Solo: ) (Music: "Goodbye" by ) and (Feat. of ) by by , ( ) from ) & featuring . . is a production of , "The Good Life Project Cozy - The Good Life Crew in honor of the late greats ( ) . , Caitlyn and , and . , , & , is a tribute to the late , ( ) and . ( ), with . ( ) , of ( ). (Thank you, Thank you for being so beautiful, , Thank you, and & . Thank You, (and ), and ) Thank you so much for being a pleasure to have you all for being my friend, - Thank you for your support, and all of your support and support, Thank you all of you , etc., thank you for all your support & support & love, etc. - etc., etc., and so much, etc., & - etc, etc. etc. , etc. - etc. Thank you! - ETC, etc, ENJOYING YOU, etc.. - YA'LL!


Transcript

00:00:14.000 I only drink a half one though.
00:00:15.000 You drink the whole one?
00:00:16.000 I drink the whole one, but I'm going to try a half this time just to see.
00:00:21.000 You know what's weird?
00:00:22.000 I have friends that are like, they will not, they're just like, I don't know what it is.
00:00:27.000 Well, they can't take it because, well, some people do get nauseous on it, but I've never had that experience.
00:00:33.000 It's really weird.
00:00:34.000 All throughout my life, I've taken all kinds of things that people are like, oh, I throw up, or like Robitussin or something, like drinking a whole thing of Robitussin.
00:00:40.000 I throw up, I'm like, I don't know why, but I just don't have that reaction.
00:00:44.000 So I feel either lucky or I'm dumb.
00:00:46.000 Do you ever get seasick?
00:00:48.000 No.
00:00:49.000 Oh, okay.
00:00:50.000 Yeah.
00:00:50.000 Do you throw up when you get sick?
00:00:51.000 Do you ever throw up?
00:00:52.000 I try to avoid it at all times, but I don't get sick that often.
00:00:56.000 I get sick maybe once every four years or something.
00:00:58.000 Do you ever drink too much and then you throw up?
00:01:01.000 You just downed the whole thing, didn't you?
00:01:03.000 No, I did like three quarters.
00:01:05.000 No, I did half.
00:01:06.000 I don't know why this is two portions.
00:01:10.000 That's silly.
00:01:10.000 Because you can't even see through the glass.
00:01:12.000 I know.
00:01:13.000 How do I know where the half is?
00:01:14.000 I always have my flashlight.
00:01:15.000 I'm just like, oh, let me check.
00:01:16.000 Yeah, that seems kind of silly.
00:01:18.000 I just, yeah, I'm trying half.
00:01:20.000 Because I got to do that because I'm just like so like, just do it.
00:01:23.000 Just fucking do it.
00:01:24.000 And every time I do it, I'm like, oh, man.
00:01:27.000 It feels really good, but I feel like I miss my opportunity to try half, so this is my opportunity.
00:01:32.000 Kratom is a weird one.
00:01:34.000 Yeah.
00:01:34.000 Because it's kind of an opiate, right?
00:01:36.000 As far as I understand, it uses the opioid receptor, but it's not technically an opiate.
00:01:43.000 There was a friend of mine was telling me that he takes Kratom before he works out.
00:01:49.000 I go, how many do you take?
00:01:50.000 Really?
00:01:51.000 And he goes, I take 10. And I go, really?
00:01:53.000 10 what?
00:01:54.000 10 pills.
00:01:55.000 10 pills.
00:01:55.000 Oh!
00:01:55.000 Of just pure kratom.
00:01:56.000 Yeah.
00:01:57.000 And I don't know what the milligrams is.
00:01:59.000 I go, 10?
00:01:59.000 I was taking two.
00:02:01.000 So I tried 10. And I go, dude, you're getting high as fuck.
00:02:05.000 I was so high.
00:02:07.000 On 10, I was like, oh my god, this is a drug.
00:02:10.000 But it's a weird drug where it doesn't affect your motor skills.
00:02:14.000 No, not really.
00:02:15.000 I was high, but my coordination, I was like, nothing feels off.
00:02:20.000 When you're drunk, it's like, I can do this, but everything's in slow motion.
00:02:26.000 No, you can't.
00:02:28.000 But Kratom was high in some weird way.
00:02:33.000 But it was definitely intoxicated.
00:02:35.000 It's an interesting one, especially, you know, feel free, you've got kava and kratom, which does that, like, here's a mellowing anti-anxiety vibe, and then here's, like, a euphoric energy thing in the center of it.
00:02:45.000 And so it gives you that, like, that's why people feel so groovy on it, because it's got those two.
00:02:51.000 However, I do understand if people get sick on it.
00:02:54.000 Like, they, I think some people just, it's too much for their brain, or they just need to do, like, a third of a bottle or something.
00:02:59.000 We can't even keep them at the club, because Duncan just chugs them.
00:03:02.000 Really?
00:03:03.000 Oh my god, he's an animal.
00:03:04.000 The trusty?
00:03:05.000 Oh, he doesn't play with those kratoms.
00:03:07.000 I can only do...
00:03:09.000 I reserve one four times a week.
00:03:15.000 At night.
00:03:16.000 I use it at night because, especially if I have a social engagement, if I have a lot of people to deal with, I take one of those, I'm just like, oh really?
00:03:22.000 Oh, where did you grow up?
00:03:23.000 You grew up in France, that's interesting.
00:03:24.000 That pen, what does it mean to you?
00:03:26.000 I mean, I'm so hyper-engaged, it's crazy.
00:03:30.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 Isn't that interesting that there's actual things that can make you a better conversationalist?
00:03:35.000 There's things that you can take where you'll be better talking to people.
00:03:41.000 You'll say different things than you would without those things.
00:03:44.000 I know.
00:03:45.000 I know.
00:03:45.000 I don't know.
00:03:46.000 I think it has something to do with the...
00:03:48.000 I think certain things remove the editing aspect and you're just more fluid.
00:03:53.000 I remember a friend of mine, she had this...
00:03:56.000 I don't know if you know people like this, but they analyze everything that they're thinking like it's like a compulsion.
00:04:01.000 So like my friend, she's an amazing musician, but every time she would speak, she'd be like, well, I'd like to, I'm not sure if I should, but I, you know, I would like to, but a lot of this like looped kind of thing, but like the analysis loop is so small that I'm like...
00:04:18.000 I wish I could help, but then one night, she was nervous about taking ketamine, and I gave her just a little bit of ketamine, and finally she's like, okay, I'll try it, I'll try it.
00:04:27.000 And she's like, I don't know, maybe is it too much?
00:04:30.000 And I was like, trust me, just do this amount, I'm really good at dosing.
00:04:33.000 And she took it, and I progressively saw her go from, I don't know what's going on.
00:04:38.000 Yeah, and you know, I was just kind of wondering, my career is interesting, but I have a lot of fear based around it.
00:04:44.000 She was just calm, relaxed, and completely fluid.
00:04:47.000 And I let her go for a while, and then I said, did you notice that you haven't stopped yourself once, like in the last two minutes?
00:04:54.000 She was like, oh my god, you're right.
00:04:56.000 And I was like, yeah.
00:04:57.000 Like, if you notice that when you're on it, it's possible you can carry that over into your functioning everyday life.
00:05:02.000 It was cool to see that transformation.
00:05:05.000 Yeah, I wonder if that's possible without the ketamine.
00:05:08.000 I think of course it is.
00:05:10.000 But the ketamine just puts you immediately in a spot where you're no longer emotionally connected to your observational self.
00:05:18.000 You're just in an observational state.
00:05:20.000 For me, I notice that I'm very clear.
00:05:23.000 Even though I think of myself as a pretty good communicator, sometimes when I'm on ketamine, the thoughts are just flowing in a way that I'm actually watching them.
00:05:30.000 It's the same feeling when I'm improvising and it's going really well, like I'm with a bunch of cats and we're jamming or whatever.
00:05:36.000 There'll be this weird thing where I'm suddenly, I'm like, I'm just, it's almost like I'm standing next to myself going like, hey, that's pretty good.
00:05:42.000 Oh, wait!
00:05:43.000 And then I'm playing again.
00:05:45.000 And it kind of puts me in that kind of a state.
00:05:48.000 And I don't know, there's something about it.
00:05:50.000 I'm really interested in ketamine, like doing more research with it too, like fMRIs, like, you know, real-time fMRI and mapping regions of the brain when you're improvising and things like that.
00:05:58.000 There's been a little bit of that, but I want to do it myself just to see.
00:06:01.000 Wasn't it originally devised as an animal tranquilizer?
00:06:04.000 Yeah, it was an anesthetic as far as I know.
00:06:06.000 I think cats or something.
00:06:08.000 Yeah, it was like, well, horses.
00:06:09.000 Like large mammals that can do a lot of damage.
00:06:13.000 I think it was used for them to just come as an anti-anxiety.
00:06:17.000 And then it's an anesthetic.
00:06:18.000 So I know a friend of mine, he was, or a friend of a friend, he was skateboarding, shoulder went out of place, went to a hospital, just shot him with ketamine, and then put his shoulder back in.
00:06:27.000 I think they used that in medic kits overseas.
00:06:32.000 Oh, that's probably right.
00:06:33.000 I think they do if they have to do like in the field surgery.
00:06:38.000 Something happens on the battlefield.
00:06:39.000 Well, I know in Vietnam all the burn victims from like napalm and stuff like that, they use a mixture of opiates and ketamine.
00:06:48.000 Because the dissociative takes you out of your body.
00:06:50.000 So you're not related to the pain in your body.
00:06:53.000 And the opiates obviously suppress pain at the same time.
00:06:57.000 Crazy, right?
00:06:58.000 Pharmacology.
00:06:58.000 I know.
00:06:59.000 Reggie Watts and Joe Rogan.
00:07:01.000 Hey.
00:07:01.000 We're not giving advice.
00:07:03.000 There's all these doctors going like, that's not true.
00:07:05.000 It was actually...
00:07:05.000 I'm like, okay.
00:07:06.000 Everything you're saying is dangerous.
00:07:08.000 I'm trying.
00:07:09.000 I'm trying.
00:07:10.000 Everything you're saying is misinformation.
00:07:13.000 It's all misinformation.
00:07:14.000 I mean, it's like sometimes it's just what you understand at the time.
00:07:17.000 Oh, there it is.
00:07:18.000 There it goes.
00:07:18.000 Ketamine was found of many the same anesthetic and analgesic properties as PCP. I think it's very close to PCP, like molecularly.
00:07:27.000 But consistently produced fewer adverse side effects.
00:07:31.000 Following this initial research, ketamine was characterized as a disassociative anesthetic.
00:07:36.000 Yep.
00:07:37.000 Yep.
00:07:38.000 Yeah.
00:07:38.000 And when I was growing up, we would drink Robitussin, which had dextromethorphan in it, which is also dissociative.
00:07:44.000 And so it's kind of a weirder version of it.
00:07:48.000 But when I first took Academy, I was like, why does this feel familiar?
00:07:52.000 It's Robitussin.
00:07:53.000 Oh, dextromethorphan.
00:07:55.000 Interesting.
00:07:56.000 Although Dexameterapy feels like an Instagram filter over the dissociative experience, whereas ketamine feels clean, a little bit cleaner.
00:08:05.000 Oh, interesting.
00:08:06.000 I remember when NyQuil had codeine in it.
00:08:10.000 One time I was sick.
00:08:11.000 This was back in the old days.
00:08:12.000 I took NyQuil, and I remember lying in bed feeling so wonderful.
00:08:18.000 I was sick.
00:08:19.000 I was like, this is amazing.
00:08:21.000 I don't think I'd ever taken it before.
00:08:24.000 And I don't think this formula is the same.
00:08:26.000 I think I'm talking like the 90s.
00:08:29.000 Yeah.
00:08:30.000 Now, I remember being in a convertible in the 80s and a friend of mine sitting on the deck where the top is down or whatever, he's sitting on the deck and he just had a bottle of codeine.
00:08:41.000 It was just like take sips of it and I was like I wanted to try it but I was like I don't know I just didn't but it was funny.
00:08:48.000 Was the car in motion?
00:08:49.000 It was in motion.
00:08:49.000 We were cruising.
00:08:50.000 That's not a smart move.
00:08:51.000 No I know it's not but it's the 80s.
00:08:53.000 That's a codeine move too.
00:08:54.000 I know it's totally codeine.
00:08:56.000 The 80s.
00:08:56.000 It's like 80s everything.
00:08:58.000 I remember in the 80s being in a scout like going all taking all the back roads from Great Falls to Lake Five in Glacier Park on the way there with like a half rack of beer And just like, you know, drinking beers and cruising down the road and with like three friends and a bunch of bikes in the back.
00:09:16.000 I mean, I don't know, the shit that we did back then was, you just can't do it anymore.
00:09:21.000 You definitely can't if people are filming you with their phones.
00:09:24.000 Oh, that's true.
00:09:25.000 Yeah, that was the missing link.
00:09:27.000 That's a big part of the world now.
00:09:29.000 So many things are being filmed.
00:09:31.000 There's good and bad of it, right?
00:09:33.000 The good thing is like citizen journalism.
00:09:36.000 Sure, yeah.
00:09:36.000 You know, like we know more about the horrors of war, like the wars that are happening right now.
00:09:41.000 Do you remember like during, it was, I think it was Desert Storm, or it was the next, it was after, whatever 2020, 2001, after the 9-11 attacks.
00:09:56.000 They weren't allowed to show bodies of troops coming home.
00:10:00.000 They weren't allowed to show coffins.
00:10:02.000 Remember, photographers were not allowed.
00:10:04.000 Or something like that.
00:10:05.000 Yeah, which is insane.
00:10:06.000 And then now, here we are 22 years later, and you just get graphic cell phone footage from Ukraine.
00:10:15.000 Now you're getting it from Palestine and Gaza.
00:10:19.000 It's just horrific graphic footage from phones.
00:10:24.000 I mean, even back in the days, I can remember when ISIS was on the rampage, you could still see videos on YouTube before they took them down.
00:10:33.000 People were exposed to some pretty...
00:10:35.000 Beheading videos.
00:10:35.000 Yeah, I saw one of those and I was like, I should have never seen that.
00:10:39.000 I should have never seen that.
00:10:40.000 I can't get it out of my head.
00:10:42.000 No, I've seen quite a few of them, unfortunately.
00:10:44.000 It's just like, you know, I mean, it's like, I mean, on one hand, it's like the barbarism is a good thing to see where you're like, that I never want to put myself in this situation or I want to do everything I can to try to make our society not do that kind of shit.
00:10:59.000 But at the same time, it can desensitize and some people can kind of fetishize on it as well.
00:11:05.000 So it's, I don't know, it's a twofer.
00:11:07.000 Yeah, that is a thing with people.
00:11:09.000 They do fantasize about things that they see.
00:11:13.000 I mean, you've heard that about serial killers.
00:11:15.000 They study serial killer documentaries and shit before they actually go out and do it.
00:11:19.000 Yeah.
00:11:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:21.000 I know.
00:11:21.000 But, you know, humanity.
00:11:23.000 Yeah, we're so weird.
00:11:25.000 I know we're weird.
00:11:26.000 We're so weird.
00:11:27.000 I know.
00:11:27.000 You know, this idea of eradicating all war.
00:11:30.000 I mean, I remember when I was a little boy, I was living in San Francisco during the height of the Vietnam War, and the Vietnam War ended.
00:11:38.000 And I remember as a boy thinking, oh, this is great.
00:11:42.000 Now there's not going to be any more wars.
00:11:43.000 They figured it out.
00:11:44.000 The war's bad.
00:11:46.000 Yep.
00:11:48.000 They didn't.
00:11:48.000 They didn't.
00:11:50.000 Because wars will end.
00:11:51.000 That's the one thing about war.
00:11:53.000 A war will end.
00:11:55.000 But does another one...
00:11:56.000 What's the next war that starts?
00:11:58.000 They're always sparking up.
00:11:59.000 They're always sparking up somewhere.
00:12:01.000 I have this weird theory.
00:12:03.000 Well, I don't know.
00:12:04.000 It's a weird theory.
00:12:06.000 And it's a gross generalization.
00:12:08.000 But I think pretty much every conflict is a result of...
00:12:31.000 It's just about capitalism.
00:12:32.000 Can we make this graph go up like we need more of these numbers?
00:12:37.000 And it's just chasing infinite wealth, right?
00:12:40.000 It's like wealth amassing.
00:12:42.000 So it has a value system, but human well-being is not in it.
00:12:45.000 So eventually over time, it's like, of course people are going to game it.
00:12:49.000 And very few people are going to game it.
00:12:51.000 And they're going to acquire all this stuff.
00:12:52.000 And they're just going to be like desensitized to the rest of the inequities and so forth.
00:12:58.000 And then you're going to cause all this animosity.
00:12:59.000 And then there's going to be a lot of people going like, well, I need to get my stuff back.
00:13:03.000 And then you get all these opportunists that are using the disgruntilism and like using that to arm.
00:13:08.000 It's like, that's my over gross oversimplification.
00:13:12.000 I'm sure I'll be corrected millions of times over.
00:13:14.000 But Whenever I see any of these conflicts or even a conflict in my own neighborhood or my neighbors arguing over, it's about a property line or it's about you didn't do this or you didn't do that.
00:13:26.000 It's this weird...
00:13:28.000 Thought process that goes into I don't have enough or I have all the stuff and I want to keep the stuff or I want more stuff and then someone else kind of responding to that in some way I'm not phrasing it as eloquently as I usually do on ketamine but But that's kind of my Whenever I see all of these things.
00:13:47.000 I'm just like I have a feeling that it's probably maybe that I don't know the problem is the alternative is even more horrific and What's the alternative?
00:13:57.000 Socialism.
00:13:58.000 Socialism.
00:13:59.000 Yeah.
00:13:59.000 I don't know enough about that.
00:14:00.000 Because the only way that's enforced is by dictators and then the dictators wind up doing what every human being in power does, which is control all the resources, control all the wealth, live in extravagant houses while everybody starves.
00:14:12.000 Every single communist dictatorship is all run the same way.
00:14:16.000 It's the only way to run them because the only way to enforce socialism is through violence.
00:14:21.000 The only way to take people's resources and evenly distribute it, you have to go in with guns.
00:14:25.000 But what about countries like Sweden and things like that?
00:14:29.000 Well, we have social systems.
00:14:31.000 We should have social systems.
00:14:32.000 Yeah, social systems.
00:14:33.000 But you're talking about full-on socialism.
00:14:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm not, you know, that's why, here's something that's interesting.
00:14:40.000 I really think within our lifetimes, if it hasn't happened already, governments are going to start using AI to do low-level legislation.
00:14:50.000 And now I'm just like, I'm summarizing in a very optimistic way.
00:14:56.000 We've been talking about this a lot, actually.
00:14:57.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:57.000 Okay, good.
00:14:58.000 So I got a friend of mine, Dr. Alan D. Thompson.
00:15:01.000 If you don't know about him, check him out.
00:15:02.000 He's an AI expert, researcher.
00:15:05.000 He's an explainer.
00:15:06.000 He has a thing called The Memo that comes out, I think like every two weeks, something like that.
00:15:10.000 But it gives you this really holistic state of the union of AI. And he's hyper optimistic and calls it human evolution, which I believe in that as well.
00:15:20.000 If it's used...
00:15:21.000 Well, you get rid of the emotional factor and you just have something that's looking to solve problems.
00:15:29.000 And so I think it can at least give you five solutions that are not emotionally based, that are just addressed, that are supposed to kind of maximize the positive probable outcome.
00:15:40.000 And I think we may see a human AI synergistic, at least low-level government implementation.
00:15:49.000 Probably some country that can do that and not feel like they're batting the farm on it.
00:15:55.000 And if it goes well, then other people will implement that.
00:15:58.000 Exactly.
00:15:59.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:16:00.000 We were talking about an AI president.
00:16:04.000 That you need a president that is immune to bias, corruption, influence, and someone who just looks at things rationally and in an intelligent way that spans all the disciplines, right?
00:16:18.000 Like, how could any president really be an expert in foreign policy, the environment, economics, Social justice, infrastructure, immigration.
00:16:30.000 It's not possible.
00:16:32.000 How could one person really know the correct solutions to all those issues, even if you're briefed?
00:16:38.000 Look, I can't imagine.
00:16:41.000 All I do is run a podcast.
00:16:44.000 And do comedy.
00:16:45.000 And occasionally commentate on fights.
00:16:48.000 And all those three things take up so much of my fucking time.
00:16:52.000 My whole day today has been having conversations with people about replacement opponents because there's a UFC coming out in two weeks.
00:17:00.000 So I've been having all these conversations with experts and people that I know and commentators of who can fit this spot and who's ready and who's in shape and who's turned the fight down and How could anybody?
00:17:13.000 That's so minor.
00:17:15.000 My role is so small.
00:17:18.000 I have so little to do, and yet it takes up so much of my time.
00:17:22.000 How could anyone Manage all of those things.
00:17:26.000 They can't.
00:17:27.000 But AI could.
00:17:28.000 And AI doesn't have a son that gets money from Burisma.
00:17:31.000 I know.
00:17:32.000 I know.
00:17:33.000 It's like, the thing about...
00:17:34.000 I know.
00:17:35.000 Well, it's like, I mean, if you look at, like, it's really hard.
00:17:37.000 I had a term, I don't know if it exists, but I call it corporacrats.
00:17:41.000 And most people in government essentially are corporacrats in the sense that...
00:17:46.000 The things that, when I see people like vetoing things or not getting on board with certain things, and you're like, well, that seems like that would be helpful, but you're choosing not to do that.
00:17:54.000 It's like the influence of corporations on even well-intentioned, you know, people that go into government, they're like, I want to make a difference.
00:18:03.000 It just gets in there.
00:18:04.000 It's so baked.
00:18:06.000 It's baked in there.
00:18:07.000 It's baked in there.
00:18:08.000 I don't know how you're going to overcome that.
00:18:10.000 The only thing I can think of, because my thing is, I'm not really political in the sense that I don't have a party.
00:18:15.000 I'm pretty independent.
00:18:18.000 I want to choose people that are...
00:18:24.000 That are humble enough, that have enough humility to work with anybody that wants to solve a problem that they're wanting to solve.
00:18:31.000 And to create solutions for the most amount of people possible.
00:18:36.000 That's all I'm looking for.
00:18:37.000 Because there is no excuse for any of us being...
00:18:41.000 All the inequity we see in all of this stuff is totally solvable if we were much more efficient with how...
00:18:49.000 How, well, how resources are utilized, how they're distributed, and so forth.
00:18:54.000 And what I mean by that is, like, some of my friends are like, well, if you do, like, universal basic income, which I think is something I'm kind of interested in, I think that that is interesting, if you can account for where that comes from in a way that doesn't upset people, they have a lot of power and a lot of money,
00:19:10.000 feel like that's threatening my whatever it is.
00:19:13.000 Do you remember Bernie Sanders, his idea?
00:19:16.000 Oh no, what was that?
00:19:16.000 His idea that I thought was really fascinating when I talked to him, he said he's going to take a small fraction, less than one cent, for every speculation buy on the stock market.
00:19:28.000 Wow.
00:19:29.000 And that would account for an insane amount of money.
00:19:31.000 And you could essentially, through that money, just through that money, provide free healthcare, free education, just through that.
00:19:40.000 There's two things that we could do that could stop people From living a shit life.
00:19:46.000 One of them is keep them from being saddled down by student debt.
00:19:50.000 Student debt, student loan debt, is fucking insane.
00:19:54.000 Because you're taking these vulnerable young people, 17 years old, right out of high school, about to go to college, and they sign on for these fucking deals where they're gonna owe an insane amount of money over the next five, six years, and they can never get out of that debt.
00:20:11.000 That is crazy.
00:20:12.000 It's crazy what we do to people.
00:20:14.000 So then you force them into jobs that perhaps they don't want to do.
00:20:18.000 And maybe there's things that they would have thought of pursuing that they can't pursue because they have a nut that they have to pay every month because they have student loan debts.
00:20:27.000 And it's a big nut.
00:20:28.000 If you're in medical school, it's enormous.
00:20:30.000 It's an enormous nut.
00:20:31.000 It's so insane because the way I look at it is like anytime someone's in survival mode, they're in a crisis state.
00:20:40.000 They're less likely to be in a solution-based mind state.
00:20:43.000 They're generally in a crisis state.
00:20:45.000 So if you're in survival mode, you're spending all of this brain trust energy that could be contributing to amazing solutions for all kinds of things.
00:20:55.000 And you're just wasting it.
00:20:57.000 And that's why when I drive through LA and I see how many people are on the street, I'm like, there's probably a genius in there.
00:21:04.000 There's probably someone who could invent a new water filtration system.
00:21:08.000 Whatever it is, it's a waste of human potential.
00:21:13.000 And I'm like, if you don't invest in your population, if you don't believe in your population and you don't invest in them...
00:21:20.000 Some of the arguments are like, well, you're just giving away stuff and people are just going to freeload.
00:21:25.000 There might be some of that, but most of the time people want to get involved in something and they want to make the people at least close around them, they want to make their lives a little bit better.
00:21:35.000 That's if you're not a drug addict.
00:21:37.000 The problem with the homeless community is the vast majority are mentally ill and or drug addicts.
00:21:44.000 So what you really need, first of all, we definitely need to look at the country like it's our community.
00:21:50.000 And we don't do that.
00:21:51.000 100%.
00:21:52.000 100%.
00:21:52.000 It should be one giant community.
00:21:54.000 There's no excuse for radically impoverished, gang-ridden, crime-ridden neighborhoods.
00:22:01.000 There's no excuse for that.
00:22:02.000 We should be engineering that out.
00:22:04.000 We should figure out a way to...
00:22:06.000 If you want to make a better country, you want to make America great again, make less losers.
00:22:12.000 What's the best way to make less losers?
00:22:15.000 Give people opportunities from the jump.
00:22:17.000 You know how much potential we're missing out?
00:22:19.000 So much.
00:22:20.000 So much potential we're missing out because people who might have brilliant minds, might be incredibly creative, but they're born in horrible, hostile environments and they get caught up in it.
00:22:29.000 And it could happen to you, it could happen to me, it could happen to anybody.
00:22:32.000 Anybody who's listening to this that hasn't committed murder or robbed people, a lot of it is luck.
00:22:40.000 It's your decisions for sure.
00:22:43.000 It's how you're raised.
00:22:44.000 But you don't get to choose that either.
00:22:46.000 You don't get to choose who your family is.
00:22:48.000 You don't get to choose your neighborhood.
00:22:50.000 You don't get to choose what trauma they faced in their life.
00:22:53.000 You don't get to choose what happened to your mother while you were in her womb that contributes to the way you think and behave.
00:23:01.000 Because when a woman is involved in heavy violence and trauma and when they're around that all the time and the baby's in the womb, that baby comes out triggered.
00:23:10.000 Like, ready to go.
00:23:12.000 It's a fact.
00:23:13.000 Michael Irvin was explaining this to me.
00:23:14.000 Like epigenetics and experiential development and gestation.
00:23:19.000 So, if we could do...
00:23:22.000 I've said this many times, but I'll say it again.
00:23:23.000 Think about these no-bid contracts they gave Halliburton to go in and fix a rock after we blew the shit out of it.
00:23:30.000 Why can't they give no-bid contracts to these motherfuckers to go fix up cities?
00:23:34.000 Why isn't it profitable?
00:23:37.000 Imagine if it was profitable to do that.
00:23:39.000 If we can spend a hundred fucking billion dollars in Ukraine, whether you agree with that or not, we had that money somehow or another.
00:23:48.000 We were able to do that.
00:23:49.000 We have a crisis in America.
00:23:51.000 Massive crisis.
00:23:52.000 The loss of life in America is comparable to all kinds of wars.
00:23:56.000 If you just look at the amount of people that die in the south side of Chicago every weekend, it was higher at many points than what was going on with the conflict in Afghanistan.
00:24:06.000 Yeah, I mean, it's crazy to me when I see this, like, the United States.
00:24:11.000 I mean, the United States, I grew up in the 80s.
00:24:13.000 There was, like, yeah, we were kind of blinded by a lot of, like, you know, kind of glamorizing and just, like, everything's groovy, you know, like, all the movies and TV shows and stuff like that.
00:24:21.000 But at least when I grew up, I didn't have...
00:24:24.000 That stress of the micromanaging of constant reminders that the inequities are insane and that the middle class is just getting squeezed.
00:24:35.000 And everybody I know, and I'm talking about like I tried to buy a house in LA for three years.
00:24:43.000 I bid on four houses.
00:24:47.000 One of them, the listing agent was like, we want you to have this house.
00:24:53.000 They spoke French.
00:24:54.000 I spoke French to them.
00:24:55.000 I was like, okay, this is great.
00:24:56.000 I'm buttering them up.
00:24:57.000 The people who own the house were French.
00:24:58.000 The listing agent was Swiss, but spoke French.
00:25:01.000 And I was like, oh yeah.
00:25:01.000 And they were like, yeah, we want you to have a house.
00:25:03.000 I want you to have a house.
00:25:03.000 I was like, this is great.
00:25:05.000 House went for...
00:25:07.000 $1.7 million.
00:25:08.000 And of course that was like an underbid, you know, however they do that bullshit psychological whatever.
00:25:14.000 Low pricing.
00:25:15.000 So I was like, okay, great.
00:25:16.000 I'm going to give you a healthy offer.
00:25:17.000 I gave him a healthy offer, you know, talked to my real estate agent and everything.
00:25:21.000 I sent it to him and I was like, okay, this sounds like this is going to go through.
00:25:24.000 And then they're like, oh, sorry.
00:25:25.000 They went with this other person.
00:25:27.000 Oh, really?
00:25:28.000 What did they offer?
00:25:29.000 They offered $1.2 million.
00:25:40.000 Jesus.
00:25:48.000 Or life was like, oh, you want a house?
00:25:51.000 I'll give you a little bit of hope, and then there's going to be a team that just goes out and says, we're going to outbid you, and we're going to just waive all the conditions.
00:25:58.000 There's no way you're going to compete with it.
00:26:00.000 And I thought about that, and I have friends that are trying to find apartments right now.
00:26:04.000 And even in Great Falls, Montana, where I'm from, I think some property value went up, I don't know, a huge percentage.
00:26:13.000 Yeah.
00:26:15.000 Well, Yellowstone, man.
00:26:17.000 Yellowstone.
00:26:18.000 They tricked everybody.
00:26:19.000 Yellowstone.
00:26:19.000 You're thinking they're going to be a rancher.
00:26:21.000 When I heard about that, well, no, not even that.
00:26:23.000 It was just like, everyone thought, I thought, oh yeah, a TV production, promoting that area, like whatever, that should bring in money, right?
00:26:31.000 It did.
00:26:31.000 But now every Montana, because Montana's already, it's like, I have the same, I feel the same way.
00:26:36.000 I'm like, just visit.
00:26:37.000 Don't move here, but just come and visit.
00:26:39.000 You know, that's been That's always been my vibe.
00:26:42.000 Growing up, all my friends have the same vibe.
00:26:44.000 They're just like, just come here and check it out, and then we'll see you a little bit later.
00:26:49.000 And you're always welcome back.
00:26:50.000 And that's always been the vibe.
00:26:52.000 And now it's almost militant now.
00:26:54.000 People are really like, do not come in here.
00:26:57.000 Don't, don't.
00:26:58.000 Yeah, but you can't do that.
00:27:00.000 You can't stop people.
00:27:01.000 I know you can't.
00:27:01.000 I know you can't.
00:27:02.000 That's a ridiculous perspective.
00:27:03.000 But I'm just saying that...
00:27:06.000 It got harsher because of this show and how it changed the economy in Bozeman.
00:27:11.000 I mean, they call Bozeman in Boz Angeles.
00:27:14.000 And now no one can buy a house there.
00:27:17.000 I have a couple friends who are like, we couldn't buy in Bozeman.
00:27:20.000 We had to move somewhere else.
00:27:22.000 And prices are going up everywhere.
00:27:23.000 Wait till they get that 30 below winter for five weeks in a row.
00:27:28.000 What in the fuck did I sign up for?
00:27:30.000 I think a lot of people don't understand what they're getting into.
00:27:33.000 That shit is on the border of Canada, son.
00:27:35.000 That's up there.
00:27:37.000 That's a real winter.
00:27:38.000 I feel safe about Great Falls.
00:27:40.000 Great Falls isn't necessarily a destination.
00:27:42.000 I mean, there are great things.
00:27:45.000 Maybe we should stop talking about it.
00:27:46.000 Lewis and Clark.
00:27:47.000 Oh, I know.
00:27:47.000 Yeah.
00:27:48.000 Don't come here, man.
00:27:49.000 Great Falls, man.
00:27:51.000 There's nothing there.
00:27:51.000 It's like forest fires.
00:27:53.000 There's deer that are really aggressive.
00:27:55.000 Aggressive deer.
00:27:56.000 Aggressive deer.
00:27:57.000 But you know what I mean?
00:27:58.000 The times are kind of...
00:28:00.000 I'm like, if an AI... Could just do a theoretical, it doesn't have to be implemented, but theoretically like ingested all of the government, all the legislation, all the laws that exist.
00:28:12.000 And you say, give it a simple thing like, how can we balance all of the spending and how can we contribute to things that will solve problems to make our lives feel more like, hey, you can go out in the street and go, how you doing, man?
00:28:26.000 I'm not too bad.
00:28:28.000 They're like, okay, great.
00:28:29.000 If that was the criteria, I would be interesting to see what it came up with.
00:28:32.000 Yeah, but you're never going to stop supply and demand.
00:28:35.000 You're never going to stop a place that's awesome from getting people to find out that it's awesome and wanting to live there.
00:28:40.000 And then you're never going to stop people from raising the price of their real estate because the demand is there.
00:28:46.000 And then they sell it, and it raises property values.
00:28:49.000 No, I mean, of course.
00:28:50.000 I understand that.
00:28:51.000 It's called progress, Reggie.
00:28:52.000 Okay.
00:28:53.000 I understand that.
00:28:54.000 However...
00:28:54.000 You live in Los Angeles.
00:28:55.000 I live in Los Angeles.
00:28:57.000 That's literally the product of that.
00:28:58.000 I know.
00:28:59.000 I know.
00:28:59.000 The Los Angeles...
00:28:59.000 I know.
00:29:00.000 I know.
00:29:00.000 Believe me.
00:29:01.000 I feel it.
00:29:01.000 Perfect weather.
00:29:02.000 Everybody moved there.
00:29:03.000 You ever see Los Angeles?
00:29:04.000 Remember when Jerry's Famous Deli was open back in the day?
00:29:07.000 You'd be able to see these...
00:29:10.000 Photographs of the valley from like the 1800s.
00:29:13.000 They had these old black and white photos where it was all dirt roads and orchards.
00:29:18.000 There was nobody there.
00:29:20.000 Yes, I know.
00:29:21.000 That was 100 years ago, man.
00:29:23.000 I know.
00:29:23.000 200 years ago.
00:29:24.000 Now it's fucking psychotic.
00:29:26.000 Now it's bumper to bumper traffic and spray paint and cement everywhere.
00:29:30.000 I know, I know.
00:29:31.000 I have a friend from Wyoming.
00:29:33.000 I think I talked about her on the show.
00:29:38.000 Kirsten Joy Wise.
00:29:39.000 Yeah, I talked about her.
00:29:40.000 Sharpshooter.
00:29:40.000 We have the most amazing conversations because she's like, she's not, I wouldn't say she's conservative, but she's a constitutionalist and has her beliefs.
00:29:51.000 And she's Christian.
00:29:52.000 You know, she will even talk to me on the phone.
00:29:54.000 She's like, listen, I'm a white Christian Christian.
00:29:57.000 I'm a woman, you know, living in Wyoming, in Cody, Wyoming, and I love guns.
00:30:02.000 And I was like, and we have the most amazing conversation.
00:30:06.000 It's great.
00:30:06.000 And we usually unify on science fiction.
00:30:08.000 But she's terrified, or she said, you know, it's like, sorry, Kirsten, but at one point she was like, I'm apprehensive about going to California because what I see is like...
00:30:22.000 Destruction, you know, gangs and violence and all this stuff.
00:30:24.000 And I'm like, I don't know, man.
00:30:26.000 I don't...
00:30:27.000 And I know that it happens.
00:30:30.000 I've had friends' cars broken into, you know, those types of things.
00:30:33.000 But in general, like, I don't experience that.
00:30:36.000 And then that also comes down to me just going like, why don't you just come to L.A. and I'll show you.
00:30:41.000 Nowhere is going to be perfect, wherever you're going to live.
00:30:44.000 There's going to be some kind of a limitation.
00:30:45.000 You're either not going to have the culture that you're looking for, You're not going to have access to the foods that you want, but you're going to get this, but you're going to get this, but you might not get this.
00:30:56.000 And I think, for me, it's like, I want to live in places but not have any fear based off of the projection from fear-based projections.
00:31:06.000 And so, I don't know.
00:31:07.000 Right, but there's a reality of the elevation of violence in Los Angeles that's legitimate.
00:31:12.000 And also the diminishing of police.
00:31:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:16.000 That's all real.
00:31:18.000 Yeah, it is.
00:31:20.000 Although I will say, this is weird, but I will say that there's a certain amount of that...
00:31:25.000 This is weird to say, but sometimes when things get hostile, or let's say more chaotic, I... I kind of go, oh, here's an opportunity.
00:31:38.000 I think it's an opportunity.
00:31:40.000 In the sense that it makes people reformat their association to things.
00:31:45.000 Like, police.
00:31:46.000 There's more violence.
00:31:47.000 And now we have less police.
00:31:49.000 It's like, was the answer less police?
00:31:50.000 It's like, I don't think the answer was less police.
00:31:52.000 I think it was about better trained police.
00:31:54.000 I think they went too far.
00:31:57.000 And it's like, when you have these opportunities in life where you're like...
00:32:00.000 This moment where people are like maybe we should question the way we do things but then the response is to overshoot and overcompensate and now you've got like this you know so I don't know I hope it's also a problem that people have an opinion based on an ideology that they subscribe to yes and say if you have a leftist ideology and you subscribe to that then you have some very specific I bet I know where you stand on climate change I bet I know where you stand on many issues And the problem with
00:32:31.000 that is if your tribe all agrees to something, you signal to your tribe by also agreeing to, and it's much easier than having a real objective conversation about the realities of that thing and not being attached to these ideas, but just saying, well, what are the realities of these things?
00:32:48.000 Yes, I always call it the 10% rule.
00:32:50.000 Like, I may believe in something and think about it and go, yeah, that makes sense for me.
00:32:55.000 But I always leave 10% margin of me being completely wrong or me misunderstanding the whole situation.
00:33:03.000 Because I can't hold on to something so fervently.
00:33:06.000 Because I have all kinds of friends.
00:33:08.000 I have conservative friends.
00:33:09.000 I have anarchist friends.
00:33:12.000 I have agnostic friends.
00:33:13.000 Whatever.
00:33:14.000 I have religious friends.
00:33:15.000 I have leftist friends.
00:33:16.000 But the thing that brings us together is that we can have conversations about issues, and if I bring up something that is a counter to what they believe, they're at least listening, and they're like, that's interesting.
00:33:28.000 Well, yeah, if we incorporated a little bit of what you're talking about into what we're doing, and we kind of de-escalate on here, we can arrive at something that's a little bit more rational that works for more people.
00:33:38.000 What's stunning how emotionally attached people are oftentimes to subjects that they're not even informed on?
00:33:55.000 Oh, yes, of course.
00:34:04.000 To a differing opinion.
00:34:06.000 And that is just rough, man.
00:34:08.000 Those are rough conversations.
00:34:09.000 I don't enjoy them.
00:34:10.000 I really enjoy having conversations with people that I disagree with, that are polite and kind and objective and fair.
00:34:17.000 Those are great conversations because they're stimulating.
00:34:19.000 I get to see how you think about things and why you think about these things.
00:34:23.000 And those conversations are so important.
00:34:25.000 And for whatever reason, nowadays people don't want to have them anymore.
00:34:30.000 They want to like, I think it's a social media artifact.
00:34:33.000 100%.
00:34:33.000 It's social media and that you can interact and you can say something.
00:34:39.000 The thing is, like, if something affects you emotionally, you can immediately state how you're feeling.
00:34:45.000 And the context is so limited on that statement.
00:34:49.000 I've gotten into...
00:34:50.000 I go on Twitter.
00:34:52.000 I'm not going to call it X, but I go on Twitter and...
00:34:56.000 And I have these discussions with some people that are like, oh, there is no way whatever I say...
00:35:01.000 And I'm always practicing different hacks.
00:35:03.000 I'm like, okay, well, maybe I'll just go in with...
00:35:06.000 You're obviously in...
00:35:07.000 There's some insecurity that you're feeling.
00:35:09.000 And you're feeling frustration.
00:35:10.000 And so you're kind of like...
00:35:12.000 You're kind of expounding these things because it kind of gives you an energy in the moment that makes you feel as though...
00:35:18.000 You're doing something.
00:35:19.000 You're doing something.
00:35:20.000 And often their reply is...
00:35:23.000 Generally more of the same, but slightly different information.
00:35:28.000 And I'm like, okay, I see.
00:35:30.000 You're not in the mode where you want to have a conversation.
00:35:33.000 We're not having a face-to-face conversation.
00:35:35.000 You're trying to win.
00:35:35.000 You're playing a game.
00:35:36.000 Yeah, and I'm not into winning.
00:35:38.000 I just want to come to an understanding because there's nothing better.
00:35:43.000 I mean, one of my favorite highs in the world, and I love drugs, but my favorite high in the world...
00:35:48.000 When I had a conversation, this is just an example, I was in Montana, back steps of my friend Wally's house.
00:35:55.000 His next door neighbor was an armorer in the Iraq War, was responsible for, I don't know, I think it was a battalion's worth of weapons, and it was only he and another guy that were monitoring these things.
00:36:08.000 So he has all these stories.
00:36:10.000 And his viewpoint on all kinds of things that are – he's definitely more conservatively.
00:36:15.000 I had this conversation about the perspective from people who are – it was a police issue and I was saying like police need to be better trained.
00:36:22.000 It's like it's not necessarily about getting rid of them but I believe that they need better training in other countries.
00:36:26.000 Police go to school for two and a half years before they even – Get out.
00:36:29.000 So there's a difference in quality.
00:36:32.000 And we kind of went back and forth and I saw his eyes narrowing and it was just kind of like steaming up a little bit.
00:36:38.000 But then the more we talked about it and the more I said, like, I understand where you're coming from.
00:36:41.000 I get where you're coming from.
00:36:43.000 And I'm not saying the opposite of what you're talking about.
00:36:50.000 What I'm looking for is a solution of perspective.
00:36:53.000 And I saw him cool off.
00:36:55.000 It was crazy.
00:36:56.000 It cooled off.
00:36:58.000 And we left, like, he's, you know, he's still gonna believe what he's believing, but it did not escalate.
00:37:03.000 And it was feeling kind of a little dangerous.
00:37:06.000 And then it was fine.
00:37:08.000 And I'm like, the more that we can have these conversations, people aren't what they are for their entire lives.
00:37:13.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:37:14.000 They aren't even what they are necessarily in any given moment because when we get information that we can tap into and feel and get it from somebody instead of these tiny little bite-sized nuggets that are decontextualized, then...
00:37:30.000 It's brilliant.
00:37:30.000 And I get off on that.
00:37:31.000 That's my biggest high in the world.
00:37:33.000 It's like my friends going like, this about this.
00:37:36.000 And I'm like, okay, okay, I hear you.
00:37:38.000 But what about this?
00:37:39.000 And they're just like, oh, no, but check this out.
00:37:41.000 And they're like, oh, well, you know, I don't know what it is.
00:37:44.000 That's the wonderful thing about some drugs.
00:37:46.000 Yes, that's true.
00:37:47.000 Because some drugs, like for me, it's marijuana.
00:37:50.000 Marijuana makes me so much more considerate of other people's perspectives and feelings.
00:37:57.000 Because I'm much more sensitive when I'm on it.
00:38:00.000 So when I'm talking to someone, I'm so much less likely to engage in like a real disagreement.
00:38:07.000 It'll be much more passive, much more like, okay, I see what you're saying.
00:38:12.000 Okay, so you feel that, like, reaffirm, and then have you considered.
00:38:19.000 And this is a thing, and I also, I say this all the time because it's a very important thing to say, I try very hard to not be connected to my ideas.
00:38:30.000 That these are just ideas.
00:38:32.000 And I, as an individual, as a separate being, a conscious being, am engaging with these ideas.
00:38:39.000 But I don't claim them as my own to the point where I'm married to them and I fight for them and these are my fucking, these are my ideas and I stand by them.
00:38:48.000 You're dying on that hill.
00:38:48.000 There's only a few.
00:38:50.000 Sure.
00:38:50.000 Like, you know...
00:38:51.000 Yeah.
00:38:51.000 There's a few.
00:38:52.000 Yeah.
00:38:53.000 Right?
00:38:53.000 But most things, I'm like, I want to know why you think the way you think.
00:38:58.000 And that's one of the beautiful things about having a podcast, is I have so many conversations with so many people that have completely different perspectives.
00:39:07.000 Man, I will...
00:39:08.000 You get this chance to explore them.
00:39:10.000 Totally.
00:39:11.000 And it's funny.
00:39:12.000 It's like, I have this concept where I talk about, I don't...
00:39:15.000 I kind of believe that we all play characters of ourselves.
00:39:18.000 Like we kind of have a character version of ourselves.
00:39:20.000 But then there's the actor, right?
00:39:23.000 Or if you want to use car terms, there's a pilot or there's a driver and then there's a machine.
00:39:28.000 And how I like to think of it is I like to address the actor.
00:39:36.000 Yeah.
00:39:58.000 Yeah.
00:40:26.000 And acknowledge that they are a being on the planet.
00:40:29.000 They're a human being.
00:40:30.000 And they exist.
00:40:32.000 But it's also you as a human.
00:40:34.000 You're a really nice guy.
00:40:36.000 And every conversation I've had with you has been kind of consistent like that.
00:40:40.000 You're just a nice person.
00:40:42.000 You genuinely want to get along with people.
00:40:47.000 And you genuinely want a real discourse, a real conversation.
00:40:51.000 True.
00:40:53.000 Some people aren't into that game.
00:40:55.000 I know.
00:40:55.000 And when you encounter those people, like if someone says, no, I want to fucking play tennis.
00:40:59.000 And you're like, but we're playing ping pong, man.
00:41:02.000 No, no, no.
00:41:02.000 Fucking tennis.
00:41:03.000 You got to go, okay, I want to play ping pong.
00:41:05.000 You want to play tennis?
00:41:06.000 Have a nice day.
00:41:07.000 I'm not going to play tennis.
00:41:08.000 What if we play Penis?
00:41:10.000 Yeah, what if we play...
00:41:11.000 What is the one?
00:41:13.000 Pickleball.
00:41:14.000 Pickleball.
00:41:14.000 Oh, my God.
00:41:16.000 Pickleball's really fun.
00:41:17.000 Oh, my God.
00:41:18.000 Oh, God.
00:41:19.000 Yeah, I hear that, too.
00:41:20.000 But I won't just because of the name.
00:41:22.000 I can't.
00:41:22.000 But...
00:41:23.000 No, it's true.
00:41:24.000 It's like, I just...
00:41:25.000 I don't know.
00:41:25.000 I think that we're here and we might as well have a good time.
00:41:28.000 Yeah.
00:41:28.000 So, like...
00:41:29.000 Yeah, be as nice as you can.
00:41:31.000 Kindness.
00:41:32.000 That's all I'm looking for.
00:41:33.000 Kindness is like, if I feel like someone's being kind, it's great.
00:41:36.000 I've run into tons of assholes that I've seen treat people like shit, but most of the time, I can get in there.
00:41:42.000 If I can get in there, they'll go like, oh, that's cool, I respect you, man.
00:41:46.000 I'm like, okay, great, because I respect you too, but also, Don't do that shit.
00:41:51.000 Like, you could do stuff different, and they'll come back at you, and you'll get an energy that you actually want.
00:41:58.000 Right.
00:41:59.000 Well, that's the thing, too.
00:42:00.000 Like, some people say, like, I met that guy, and he was an asshole.
00:42:04.000 Okay, well, how were you?
00:42:05.000 Because when I met him, he's really nice.
00:42:08.000 Yeah, totally.
00:42:08.000 How did you engage with this person?
00:42:11.000 Some people, it's like who you are is oftentimes a product of who you're talking to, too.
00:42:18.000 Who you are in that moment is oftentimes how this person receives you and how they're talking to you.
00:42:24.000 100%, man.
00:42:26.000 There's nothing I love more than someone like, and I'm just like, hey, what's going on?
00:42:31.000 Oh, are you okay?
00:42:32.000 And they're like, why do you care?
00:42:33.000 It's like, well, because, I don't know, I dig you.
00:42:36.000 If someone's coming at me, there's definitely times where I will push back on somebody if they're being a dick to me, but I love figuring out a way to be Again, asymmetrical or just illogical to them, irrational to them.
00:42:50.000 Because if someone's like, I'm going to do something that I'm expecting a certain reaction from that generally I get when I do it.
00:42:56.000 And then they're like, here's some scrambled eggs.
00:42:59.000 And then I give them back a hat with a lizard crawling around it.
00:43:04.000 And I'm like, here's this.
00:43:04.000 And they're like, what is this?
00:43:06.000 And then when they're in that confused state...
00:43:08.000 That's the opportunity where you can just be like, man, this is silly.
00:43:11.000 What are you doing?
00:43:12.000 You don't have to be this way.
00:43:15.000 Life is awesome.
00:43:17.000 And I know it's hard to see.
00:43:18.000 For some people, they're really, really affected by their environment.
00:43:22.000 They're affected by the way they've been treated.
00:43:24.000 They're affected by all kinds of things.
00:43:26.000 But guaranteed, if an amazing acapella singer started singing...
00:43:32.000 Generally, someone will be like, oh shit, that's amazing.
00:43:34.000 And those types of things, those are the moments where you realize like, oh, we're all in this together.
00:43:40.000 You're not getting rid of people by like, you're not gonna become happier because you're gonna control the situation.
00:43:45.000 Absolutely.
00:43:46.000 That's not really how it works.
00:43:48.000 There's more power in being collaborative.
00:43:51.000 And it doesn't mean you have to give up everything.
00:43:53.000 I think people, they're too binary.
00:43:55.000 They're like, if I give up here, now I've lost everything.
00:43:58.000 It's not true.
00:43:59.000 It's like you become stronger When you become better at collaborating.
00:44:03.000 Yeah, and you create alliances.
00:44:04.000 Yeah, and it's cool.
00:44:06.000 And you can have rivalries.
00:44:07.000 I mean, rivalries, I think, are fun if they're not violent.
00:44:11.000 It's like, I think that rivalries are like, you know, I hate that douchebag or whatever.
00:44:16.000 I love, like, I always practice, like, fake negative...
00:44:20.000 Like fake negative stuff where we're just like, yeah, that guy's just such a dick or whatever.
00:44:26.000 And everyone's like, yeah, he's such a dick.
00:44:28.000 I mean, look at the way you just helped that guy.
00:44:29.000 Or whatever.
00:44:31.000 And I love it because it's like, well, you can kind of exercise a little bit of the real thing, but it's not real.
00:44:36.000 So it lets off steam.
00:44:38.000 And I mean, you know about this.
00:44:40.000 Comedians do it all the time to each other.
00:44:41.000 Oh yeah, all the time.
00:44:43.000 God, it's so much fun to do that with comedians.
00:44:45.000 And it's such a bummer when you try that on regular people.
00:44:48.000 Oh no, they do not get it.
00:44:50.000 You're like, right?
00:44:51.000 And they're like, and you're like, okay.
00:44:54.000 Yeah, it's like, especially through text messages.
00:44:57.000 Like some of my comedian friends, I love the ridiculous text messages.
00:45:02.000 We'll text message each other the most horrific shit, the most ridiculous shit, back and forth to each other.
00:45:07.000 Just so cutting to each other and just laughing.
00:45:10.000 Everyone's laughing and it's fun.
00:45:11.000 I know.
00:45:12.000 It's fun.
00:45:12.000 You're sparring.
00:45:13.000 I know you're sparring, and that's what the thing...
00:45:15.000 I mean, it's like, you know...
00:45:15.000 And it's in love.
00:45:16.000 It's fun.
00:45:17.000 Totally.
00:45:17.000 Yeah, like, the reason why they can say those things to you is because you know they love you, and you love them.
00:45:22.000 100%.
00:45:22.000 And it's fun.
00:45:23.000 And it's funny.
00:45:23.000 And it's funny, and it's the best.
00:45:26.000 I mean...
00:45:27.000 I don't know.
00:45:28.000 That's my thing.
00:45:28.000 Also, you know, I'm an artist, so for me, when I see art, it's like we're all intersected by art.
00:45:34.000 Art is a great unifier because it just goes straight to the initial core of what being a human being is about, which is curious.
00:45:43.000 Creative, problem-solving adventurer.
00:45:46.000 Like, that's generally what human beings are.
00:45:49.000 They're like, what's over there?
00:45:50.000 How does that work?
00:45:52.000 Ooh, I bet you I could make this.
00:45:53.000 Hey, what are you working on?
00:45:54.000 Can I help you?
00:45:55.000 Whatever.
00:45:56.000 Can you help me?
00:45:56.000 Whatever.
00:45:57.000 I think it's that.
00:45:58.000 But then, again, when people are in survival mode, all the bad shit happens.
00:46:01.000 And then you get people taking advantage of people in those bad situations, and then they're harnessing, they're extending their disappointment with life and themselves.
00:46:09.000 On to those people and then they start motivating.
00:46:11.000 And you're just like, guys, guys, guys, chill the fuck out.
00:46:14.000 Well, I think human beings have a certain amount of conflict and problem solving that they have to address on a daily basis in order to be balanced.
00:46:22.000 Certainly.
00:46:23.000 And I think the more you can do that with yourself, the better off you are with other people.
00:46:29.000 By controlled adversity, doing things that are difficult is the most important.
00:46:35.000 For me, if I don't work out a couple of days in a row, I'm a different person.
00:46:39.000 And I know that seems like, well, you got a problem.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, I do have a problem.
00:46:44.000 Most of it's genetic, I'm pretty sure.
00:46:46.000 But my problem has a very simple solution that I've been practicing for decades.
00:46:51.000 And I understand it.
00:46:53.000 And I know how to mitigate that problem.
00:46:55.000 And when I do, I am a much better person.
00:46:58.000 And so I do that.
00:46:59.000 But when I don't do that for a few days, I feel like a lot of people feel all the time.
00:47:04.000 And just a touch of it.
00:47:05.000 Just a touch of it.
00:47:06.000 I don't have decades of it.
00:47:08.000 Yeah.
00:47:09.000 Compiled with alcoholism and fucking drug abuse and problems and stress and lack of sleep and poor diet and all these other contributing factors that make you a fucking maniac.
00:47:19.000 Yep.
00:47:20.000 And environment.
00:47:21.000 So I just have a touch of it after a couple of days.
00:47:25.000 I'm like, ooh, I feel fucking irritable.
00:47:27.000 This is not a good way.
00:47:29.000 This is the opposite of ketamine.
00:47:31.000 This is not a good way to interface with people.
00:47:33.000 If I'm tense and worked up and I run into someone and they're taking too long to talk, you know, they're just blobbing and blobbing.
00:47:39.000 I'm like, okay, get to the fucking point.
00:47:41.000 Come on, man.
00:47:42.000 But I'll say it that way.
00:47:43.000 Come on, man, get to the point.
00:47:44.000 And then that person's like, hey, you're fucking rude.
00:47:47.000 That guy's rude.
00:47:48.000 You're giving me a fucking ear beating.
00:47:50.000 Like, oh my God, he's hostile.
00:47:51.000 Like, I'm sorry I'm tense.
00:47:52.000 But if I was high and worked out, I'd be like, I see where you're coming from.
00:47:57.000 I'd maybe joke around a little bit, like, does this story have an end?
00:48:01.000 Yeah, right.
00:48:02.000 Like, with a smile?
00:48:03.000 Right.
00:48:04.000 Just make fun of the situation?
00:48:05.000 Like, I see what you're saying, but running out of time here.
00:48:09.000 I gotta get out of here.
00:48:10.000 I do the thing where I, like, rapidly...
00:48:13.000 Basically describe what they're like getting to the point at what someone's describing like like very rapidly and then like going like is that what you mean?
00:48:21.000 And they'll be like oh yeah and okay okay now let's move to the next one.
00:48:24.000 But then they want to keep going and expand on it so it's their own.
00:48:26.000 That's true.
00:48:27.000 There's also a problem that some people just suck at talking.
00:48:30.000 Of course.
00:48:30.000 Some people are just not very good at it and they're practicing on you.
00:48:34.000 Like they're practicing.
00:48:35.000 That's true.
00:48:36.000 Yeah that's very frustrating.
00:48:37.000 People talking at you.
00:48:39.000 Man I'm telling you man it's like It's interesting.
00:48:43.000 When I have friends that are high-visibility friends or people that are in the spotlight, and I see how they interact with people, and they might not even be friends.
00:48:53.000 Maybe I'm at a gathering or something, like the Emmys party or something like that, and I love watching all the social interactions and seeing how they do it.
00:49:00.000 Like the other night, I met...
00:49:03.000 I was at Sarah Silverman's rooftop party and it was like all these amazing people were up there.
00:49:08.000 It was really cool to see everybody.
00:49:09.000 We hadn't seen each other in a long time.
00:49:10.000 All the people I grew up with doing comedy in 2003 in a little tiny club in New York, whatever.
00:49:15.000 It's like, look at us now!
00:49:16.000 It's like, this is cool.
00:49:17.000 We did good.
00:49:18.000 Or good-ish.
00:49:20.000 Anyways, Owen Wilson was up there.
00:49:22.000 And I noticed a strategy that he used, which I thought was kind of interesting, which was he was leaving, and he had kind of met me before, but I don't think he recognized who I was.
00:49:32.000 I didn't think he knew who I was.
00:49:34.000 But he had, like, this way of, like, I'm accepting positive energy, I'm reflecting it immediately, but I also have the momentum of I'm getting the fuck out of here.
00:49:45.000 And I loved seeing that.
00:49:46.000 I was like, I've done that.
00:49:47.000 I know what it is.
00:49:49.000 Yeah.
00:49:50.000 And, you know, I don't know.
00:49:51.000 It's like you deal with a lot of people.
00:49:53.000 You kind of have to – either you're just like, I'm terrible with people.
00:49:57.000 I'm not going to these things or I'm out.
00:49:59.000 At this point, the way anybody behaves towards me, I'm not really shocked.
00:50:04.000 I've seen almost everything.
00:50:05.000 I've seen – Shortness, I've seen people that other people think are rude, but they might be on the spectrum.
00:50:13.000 They just jump into something as though you've been talking for hours and assume that you know what they're talking about.
00:50:19.000 In those cases, I've developed a lot of patience for that.
00:50:23.000 When I'm with my friends, they're like, whoa, you were really patient with that person.
00:50:28.000 It's the only way I can do it.
00:50:30.000 It's because I have to give people a little bit of time.
00:50:33.000 I don't want them to take advantage of me, but I gotta give them at least a little bit of time to hear what they're talking about.
00:50:39.000 Because, fuck man, my worst nightmare is the more successful I get, the more detached I become from the general human populace.
00:50:48.000 I can't do it.
00:50:49.000 Most of the places I hang out with, I had a friend who gave me a compliment once.
00:50:52.000 They were like, you're like a famous person that doesn't live their life like a famous person.
00:50:59.000 And I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to fucking do that shit.
00:51:01.000 I'm going to the DIY spaces.
00:51:03.000 I'm helping someone with their flat tire.
00:51:05.000 You know, whatever.
00:51:05.000 It's like, nothing changed.
00:51:07.000 I just have some more resources so I can do some different things.
00:51:11.000 I have access to a great podcast like this, you know, or get to hang out with like really cool people.
00:51:16.000 But in general, I just like being a person and hopefully, you know, by me being patient, people observing that they're like, oh, maybe I can incorporate a little bit of that.
00:51:26.000 The problem is you do open up the door for grifters.
00:51:28.000 Like, there's a lot of people that have gotten my phone number.
00:51:30.000 I should have gotten my phone number.
00:51:31.000 Oh, really?
00:51:33.000 You mean, like, oh.
00:51:34.000 Trying to get things from me and trying to get me to do things for them.
00:51:36.000 Of course.
00:51:37.000 Of course.
00:51:38.000 Get people to do this and that.
00:51:39.000 Can you connect me with this person?
00:51:41.000 You know, you block them.
00:51:42.000 Whatever.
00:51:43.000 Nah, don't block them.
00:51:44.000 You don't block them?
00:51:44.000 No.
00:51:44.000 Change my phone number.
00:51:46.000 Oh, really?
00:51:46.000 I have a new one.
00:51:47.000 I have to give it to you.
00:51:48.000 Oh, okay.
00:51:48.000 Good.
00:51:48.000 Good to know.
00:51:50.000 Here's an interesting thing.
00:51:51.000 I have not changed my number since 1998 when I first got singular.
00:51:56.000 I signed up on singular.
00:51:57.000 But I will say this.
00:51:58.000 I think some of my friends who have to change their numbers, I mean, you're dealing with stuff like the crowds that you're dealing with, you're dealing with like fighting, you're interviewing a lot of people that have all kinds of crazy different perspectives.
00:52:11.000 So the interest is high.
00:52:14.000 And so people want to have access to that.
00:52:16.000 For me, it's like, I'm a silly guy.
00:52:19.000 You're just a cool guy.
00:52:19.000 You can't give them anything.
00:52:22.000 Yeah, it's like, I don't really, what are they going to ask me?
00:52:24.000 Like, hey, can you do my show?
00:52:26.000 Right.
00:52:26.000 Well, it gets to the point where, like, if you're a hot woman and a guy's being nice to you, you don't think, oh, this guy's just being nice to me.
00:52:34.000 You're like, this guy wants to have sex with me.
00:52:36.000 So that's always on the table.
00:52:37.000 And so when someone's being nice to me, I have to always go, are you trying to get something or are you just nice?
00:52:44.000 Yes.
00:52:45.000 Are you good at knowing?
00:52:46.000 Hey, I have this business that I'd really like to talk to you about.
00:52:49.000 Fuck.
00:52:50.000 There it goes.
00:52:51.000 I know.
00:52:52.000 I know.
00:52:53.000 I know.
00:52:53.000 I mean, it's that way for me, but it's mostly about a show.
00:52:57.000 It's always like, can you do my show?
00:52:59.000 Right.
00:52:59.000 Or can you do a voice on my animation thing?
00:53:02.000 Well, some of that's cool.
00:53:03.000 Some of that's fun.
00:53:04.000 It's super cool, but, like, I'm prepared for it, but it's less stakes than what you're kind of talking about.
00:53:09.000 So I can, like, chill.
00:53:10.000 At a certain level, it gets super weird.
00:53:12.000 Like, I have friends that are really, like, Post Malone, who's really famous.
00:53:16.000 He changes his number all the time.
00:53:17.000 Really?
00:53:18.000 He just has to.
00:53:18.000 He just has to fucking vanish.
00:53:20.000 I get it.
00:53:22.000 I get it.
00:53:23.000 Everybody's trying to do something with that guy.
00:53:24.000 It's just like everyone's pulling at you.
00:53:27.000 Everybody wants something.
00:53:28.000 And they look at you as not just a human being, but as a potential for them to step higher.
00:53:34.000 Dollar signs.
00:53:35.000 Yeah.
00:53:36.000 Success.
00:53:37.000 And also social success.
00:53:39.000 You can be seen with that person.
00:53:41.000 If you travel with that person, if you do things with that person, it elevates your social status.
00:53:46.000 Oh, 100%.
00:53:46.000 You know, if you're homies with Post Malone and you walk into a club, like, you're the fucking man.
00:53:50.000 Yeah, totally.
00:53:51.000 You were with Post Malone.
00:53:53.000 Yeah.
00:53:53.000 I'm always, like, when I'm with friends, like, on that level, I'm a little bit, I'm so sensitive to that dynamic that I kind of, like, go, I make myself so small.
00:54:03.000 Good.
00:54:04.000 And it's like, There's a point of it where now my psychologist is like, or my psychologist, she's like, it's okay to be a little bit.
00:54:12.000 You can own some of your achievements, but you don't have to be an asshole.
00:54:16.000 Because I'm like, well, if I do that, then I'll be an asshole.
00:54:18.000 It's like, no, that's not true.
00:54:20.000 You can still be who you are.
00:54:23.000 Yeah, some of your achievements are real.
00:54:25.000 It's like if someone wants to talk to you about music and they're saying a bunch of nonsense, and you're like, hey, I'm actually a musician.
00:54:32.000 I know, I know, I know.
00:54:33.000 I do love it.
00:54:34.000 I'm just like...
00:54:35.000 Cool, right.
00:54:36.000 You know what?
00:54:38.000 What I do is I add information to kind of fill out their picture, and then they'll sometimes be like, oh, yeah, yeah, that.
00:54:46.000 And I'm like, well, at least I'll teach you something without saying, let me teach you something.
00:54:49.000 The only place I have no room for that is things that are just rock solid and concrete.
00:54:56.000 Like where there's no debate about these things.
00:54:58.000 You mean like the earth is round?
00:54:59.000 Those kind of things.
00:55:00.000 Those kind of things.
00:55:02.000 And martial arts too.
00:55:05.000 I get in martial arts conversations with people that have some ridiculous ideas and I have to say, stop.
00:55:10.000 Stop.
00:55:12.000 Stop.
00:55:12.000 Of course.
00:55:13.000 You're dealing with a very complex thing and you have very limited knowledge.
00:55:17.000 Yeah.
00:55:17.000 And you're talking to an actual expert.
00:55:18.000 I don't like that.
00:55:19.000 I don't like these conversations.
00:55:21.000 If you come into it with humility, but if you come into telling me that you have this fucking thing that you figured out that no one else has figured out.
00:55:28.000 Yeah.
00:55:31.000 It's delusional vibes, and that sucks.
00:55:33.000 Have you ever been asked to help with fight choreography for films and things like that?
00:55:38.000 No.
00:55:39.000 No, I've been asked to do them, but I don't like acting.
00:55:43.000 I don't enjoy it.
00:55:44.000 But even coaching a scene to make it look more realistic?
00:55:47.000 No, no, there's guys that do that are excellent.
00:55:49.000 I'm not needed.
00:55:50.000 You know, it's like, you know, someone's not a comic teaching people comedy.
00:55:53.000 It's a very specific skill to make it look good on camera.
00:55:56.000 That's true.
00:55:57.000 It's different than actual.
00:55:58.000 Yeah, it's angles and like, there's certain things like contact, like, there's certain things you actually have to make contact with a person.
00:56:12.000 Yeah.
00:56:24.000 That would do fight scenes and hurt the stunt people on purpose.
00:56:27.000 And stunt guys would be fucking furious.
00:56:29.000 Oh my god.
00:56:30.000 Because this guy would actually hit them on purpose.
00:56:32.000 And you knew he was doing it.
00:56:33.000 And it did make the scenes look realistic, but that was not what they had prepared.
00:56:37.000 Right.
00:56:37.000 It's all about expectations.
00:56:38.000 It's like someone's getting free shots on you.
00:56:41.000 Yeah.
00:56:42.000 Oh, by the way, I wrote a book.
00:56:44.000 Oh!
00:56:45.000 What's your book about?
00:56:47.000 Fight choreography.
00:56:48.000 I was like, I should slip that in a little bit.
00:56:49.000 It is about fight choreography.
00:56:51.000 It took a long time, but I was steering us in that direction.
00:56:54.000 No, it's just called Great Falls, Montana.
00:56:56.000 It's an autobiography about me growing up.
00:56:59.000 Oh, nice.
00:57:00.000 How long did it take to write that?
00:57:02.000 Was that a pandemic project?
00:57:03.000 It's a pandemic project, yeah.
00:57:04.000 Nice.
00:57:05.000 A year and a half.
00:57:06.000 Almost two years.
00:57:07.000 Oh, there it is.
00:57:08.000 There she is.
00:57:09.000 Look at that.
00:57:10.000 Out of control.
00:57:10.000 Fro, son!
00:57:11.000 Oh, no.
00:57:13.000 Fast times, post-punk weirdos.
00:57:15.000 A tale of coming home again.
00:57:17.000 Reggie Watts.
00:57:18.000 Nice.
00:57:18.000 Did you do an audio for it?
00:57:20.000 I did, yeah.
00:57:21.000 I kind of didn't want to.
00:57:23.000 I was so lazy.
00:57:24.000 Oh, come on.
00:57:25.000 I know, I know.
00:57:25.000 I wanted Fred Armisen to do it.
00:57:27.000 No!
00:57:28.000 I know, I know, I know.
00:57:30.000 You have a very distinct voice.
00:57:31.000 If someone's reading your life story with a different voice, that would suck.
00:57:35.000 I thought it would just be like weird, but yes, you're right, you're right.
00:57:37.000 It would be weird, but it wouldn't be good weird.
00:57:40.000 People are, like, disappointed with good weird.
00:57:42.000 It's like, no, but guys, isn't it funny?
00:57:44.000 They're like, no, I want to hear you.
00:57:45.000 It's ironic.
00:57:45.000 I had Pee Wee Herman do my voice.
00:57:46.000 It's like, what?
00:57:47.000 Oh, it's like, no.
00:57:48.000 We just wanted to hear you.
00:57:50.000 Yeah.
00:57:51.000 No, but it's just like, I don't know.
00:57:53.000 I mean, I wanted to do...
00:57:55.000 I wasn't interested in ever making a book, but then I was like, an autobiography, that sounds a little bit easier, because then I'm just telling stories.
00:58:02.000 Yeah.
00:58:03.000 And it's about my high school times, which, as you know, like, the 80s were a crazy time, and we did crazy stuff, and...
00:58:10.000 I don't know.
00:58:11.000 It was fun to just show this is how I am today.
00:58:16.000 This is why.
00:58:17.000 I love a good autobiography.
00:58:19.000 Yeah.
00:58:20.000 I mean, I hope it's good.
00:58:21.000 A good, interesting, honest one.
00:58:23.000 It's fascinating to listen to how people grew up and what they think and how they develop their thought process.
00:58:30.000 Yeah, because it's like, I don't know, for me, it's, I mean, if you think about like all the components, it's like, well, okay, I've got a white French mother from France, you know, African American father from Cleveland, Ohio.
00:58:41.000 And, you know, they meet in Europe, they, you know, we move around Europe, and then I grow up in Great Falls, Montana, as this biracial, weirdo, kind of strange kid, you know, compared to the rest of the populace.
00:58:54.000 And then just navigating that, but then also getting the fortune of it being in the 80s.
00:59:00.000 I don't know.
00:59:00.000 It's like, I think like a lot of people, some people have read it, some friends have read it, and they're like, like Anson Mount is reading it right now, and like Anson seems like...
00:59:10.000 Who's that?
00:59:10.000 He's the captain of the Enterprise.
00:59:13.000 Which Enterprise?
00:59:14.000 The new one.
00:59:16.000 I don't even know that exists.
00:59:17.000 It's, sorry, Strange New Worlds.
00:59:20.000 Star Trek Strange New Worlds.
00:59:21.000 Oh, you're a trackie.
00:59:22.000 I'm a science fiction lover.
00:59:24.000 I do love Star Trek, because I watched it with my dad.
00:59:26.000 I love it.
00:59:27.000 I love it.
00:59:27.000 But I love all...
00:59:29.000 I love it all.
00:59:30.000 But yes, the new ones really got me because it does capture the spirit of the old.
00:59:35.000 Because it's just before the original series.
00:59:39.000 Oh, before?
00:59:41.000 Yeah, before.
00:59:41.000 So it's Captain Pike.
00:59:42.000 So that's Anson right there.
00:59:44.000 And this is on what?
00:59:45.000 How do you consume this?
00:59:47.000 Paramount+.
00:59:47.000 I think it's Paramount+.
00:59:48.000 It's good?
00:59:49.000 To me, I was worried about it because Voyager's like...
00:59:52.000 He's got great hair.
00:59:54.000 Anson's awesome.
00:59:55.000 Look at his hair.
00:59:55.000 Anson's like...
00:59:57.000 He plays the part in this really great way.
01:00:01.000 He's like the guy that you would want to tell all your problems to on the show.
01:00:05.000 And he's a great actor and he's always been really cool with me.
01:00:08.000 But he's done a lot of stuff.
01:00:10.000 But this is the one.
01:00:12.000 Finally, this is a role.
01:00:13.000 Do they have the internet on the new Star Trek shows?
01:00:17.000 Oh, is there an internet?
01:00:19.000 What do you mean?
01:00:19.000 Yeah.
01:00:20.000 Do they have internet?
01:00:21.000 Can they Google things?
01:00:22.000 I think they...
01:00:23.000 Of course they have the ship's computer, right?
01:00:25.000 It's like artificial intelligence.
01:00:27.000 I don't know.
01:00:27.000 They actually never hear about that.
01:00:29.000 Well, maybe you do hear about that.
01:00:30.000 But on this show, no.
01:00:31.000 It's just like...
01:00:32.000 Can they send emails?
01:00:33.000 I think it's...
01:00:35.000 No, because they're just like communicating.
01:00:36.000 Isn't it funny that they never even thought of a phone that would work from space?
01:00:39.000 They thought of it as a walkie-talkie.
01:00:41.000 Kirk out.
01:00:42.000 Kirk out.
01:00:42.000 I know, like...
01:00:43.000 Like you had to talk and then you had to wait for the other person to talk.
01:00:47.000 Like a walkie-talkie.
01:00:48.000 It's like, hello, over.
01:00:50.000 But I mean, it's like, what, it came up in the 60s or whatever.
01:00:53.000 But the new one, actually, there's a joke about it because a guy from the future comes into them and he's from the Federation, so he's got the thing that you just hit the badge.
01:01:01.000 And they're like, we've analyzed it and apparently it's a communicator.
01:01:04.000 And then Anson's character is just like, yeah, but flipping open the thing, that's the funnest part.
01:01:09.000 That's the best part.
01:01:12.000 And I was like, that's true.
01:01:14.000 Imagine talking on a walkie-talkie to your friend when she's not on ketamine.
01:01:17.000 Oh, my God.
01:01:18.000 With the rambling.
01:01:20.000 Oh, my God.
01:01:21.000 Well, you'd have to...
01:01:22.000 And over never comes?
01:01:22.000 There's just...
01:01:23.000 Over would never.
01:01:25.000 Are you kidding?
01:01:26.000 You'd miss, like...
01:01:27.000 I don't know how much you'd miss.
01:01:29.000 You'd miss a lot.
01:01:30.000 And if you had to tell her something, like, really important, there's a monster headed your way, like, you wouldn't be able to get to it.
01:01:34.000 Because she'd be like, today was like, okay, I feel...
01:01:38.000 I don't...
01:01:40.000 Maybe what's ha...
01:01:41.000 I'm not sure if...
01:01:44.000 There's a monster in your neighborhood!
01:01:49.000 It's like, no, there's a thing.
01:01:50.000 You've got to get out of there.
01:01:51.000 And they're just like, yeah, but all of reality is made of particles.
01:01:56.000 So those particles are the essence of perception.
01:01:59.000 I mean, I've done some functional things on KB4, which were pretty surprising.
01:02:05.000 Functional things?
01:02:05.000 Well, things that you're supposed to be functional for.
01:02:07.000 Like what?
01:02:08.000 I think the first time I did a lozenge, it was a 200 milligram lozenge, because I have a prescription for it.
01:02:13.000 What is the prescription for?
01:02:14.000 What does the doctor say when they write that prescription?
01:02:17.000 He likes to get high.
01:02:18.000 It's like he really is into, he's a psychonaut.
01:02:21.000 I don't know.
01:02:21.000 No, I mean, it's kind of like, it's for therapeutic reasons, but you can like, it's a friend of a friend.
01:02:27.000 So I was like, well, let me experience this because I want to know what this, what is this like?
01:02:31.000 But I took it and I did a live stream and it was during the pandemic and I didn't know how high I was going to get, but I just set up the equipment.
01:02:39.000 I had to problem solve a bunch of stuff and I totally did it successfully.
01:02:43.000 No one knew that I was high.
01:02:45.000 And that's my secret, I will say.
01:02:47.000 It's the one strength I have on psychedelics.
01:02:49.000 I can always do an impression of a non-high me.
01:02:54.000 Unless my eyes are crazy, but generally people are like, I didn't know you were high.
01:02:57.000 I was like, no, no, I was completely peaking on acid.
01:03:01.000 And they're like, that's impossible.
01:03:02.000 No, it's something I actually like to practice.
01:03:05.000 Cause it's fun.
01:03:07.000 Practice normalcy.
01:03:08.000 Yeah!
01:03:09.000 Like I'll do, like often times my friends are like, we're like all really high on K or something like that.
01:03:13.000 Guys, I'm going to do an impression.
01:03:15.000 This is my favorite thing.
01:03:16.000 I'm going to do an impression of a normal person.
01:03:18.000 And so I'll like get up and go like, oh man, I forgot to do this thing.
01:03:21.000 Oh shit.
01:03:22.000 Hey, when you get a chance, can you call so-and-so or whatever?
01:03:24.000 And then like go over and like wash my hands and like, you know, just do normal person stuff.
01:03:29.000 Yeah.
01:03:29.000 And there's something about trying to find your center in the middle of a storm that I feel is kind of like, it's like strapping on weights on your ankle or wearing a weighted vest in training.
01:03:39.000 It's a way of kind of challenging yourself to the point at which you hopefully make a goal by achieving something.
01:03:50.000 But, I don't know, that's a little too weird.
01:03:52.000 Well, it's also you're comfortable with that state.
01:03:54.000 You know, for someone who's never experienced that state before, it becomes overwhelming.
01:03:59.000 And then you kind of like give in to the anxiety of the moment.
01:04:03.000 That's the thing about bad trips, right?
01:04:05.000 A lot of it is people fighting it, struggling with the trip, not wanting to accept it, not wanting to let go and give in.
01:04:13.000 Totally.
01:04:13.000 It's a big factor.
01:04:14.000 Totally.
01:04:15.000 I mean, I get it.
01:04:16.000 And that's why, generally, it's hard for me to find people that are just down.
01:04:20.000 You know, like, if I'm like, hey, do you want to do ketamine?
01:04:21.000 Whenever I see ketamine, it feels like I'm saying, like, the heaviest thing in the world.
01:04:25.000 Because either people are like, it's horse tranquilizers, it's K-hole, which is thought of as negative, or they're thinking of, like, party vibes.
01:04:35.000 Like, where you're just, like, doing bumps, and you're like, oh, I'm dancing, here's a bump, I'm bump.
01:04:38.000 It's like, generally, when I do K, I fucking do K. I want to be in there.
01:04:43.000 I want to get in there.
01:04:44.000 And so when people come around, they're like, that's all I know about it.
01:04:48.000 I'm like, you know what?
01:04:48.000 Come over to my house.
01:04:49.000 I should be a coach or something.
01:04:52.000 People come over to my house all the time.
01:04:53.000 They're like, I don't know, man.
01:04:55.000 And I'm like, trust me, I'm really good at dosing.
01:04:57.000 That's always my line.
01:04:58.000 But it's true.
01:04:59.000 People will be like, oh, it was just like you said.
01:05:01.000 That was great.
01:05:01.000 I was like, I guarantee you'll ask me for another bump.
01:05:04.000 And they'll be like, no, there's no way.
01:05:05.000 And then like, oh, can I have another bump?
01:05:07.000 I was like, I told you.
01:05:09.000 It's all about set and setting.
01:05:11.000 And I like to have fun.
01:05:12.000 But anyways.
01:05:14.000 Someone went into a K-hole at my club the other night.
01:05:16.000 No.
01:05:16.000 Yeah, some lady was going.
01:05:18.000 No.
01:05:19.000 In the audience?
01:05:20.000 Yeah, her boyfriend was like, oh, he's doing ketamine.
01:05:22.000 Yeah, they had to get her assistance.
01:05:24.000 The good thing is it's over in 20 minutes.
01:05:26.000 There's a lot of that out here.
01:05:27.000 A lot of people are doing the nasal spray.
01:05:29.000 That's what I heard the nasal spray thing.
01:05:30.000 Yeah, I... Recreationally.
01:05:33.000 And I heard it was like kind of...
01:05:35.000 Your engineer was saying that it was like kind of a tech bro thing, which I'm like, well...
01:05:41.000 I would call Jamie a producer, rather than an engineer.
01:05:43.000 Okay, I apologize.
01:05:44.000 I was trained in an engineer, but I produce now.
01:05:47.000 Okay, okay, gotcha.
01:05:49.000 Gotcha, gotcha.
01:05:50.000 Yeah, it's a tricky one, Kay, because just the connotations, the negative connotations.
01:05:56.000 Yeah, and also where people do it.
01:05:57.000 It's like, don't do it at a comedy club.
01:06:00.000 Or don't do that much.
01:06:02.000 The thing about those nasal sprays is, no one can stomp you from just fucking...
01:06:06.000 Keep hammering that thing.
01:06:08.000 It's too convenient.
01:06:10.000 Next thing you know, your hand has a metallic claw and you're in another dimension.
01:06:13.000 You keep pumping it.
01:06:14.000 Oh my god.
01:06:15.000 Man.
01:06:16.000 The safety.
01:06:17.000 There's nothing that feels more unsafe than when you're really high on K and you're in an extremely public place.
01:06:24.000 It is...
01:06:25.000 It's quite the challenge.
01:06:27.000 Usually I just tell people.
01:06:28.000 I just tell them just so they know.
01:06:31.000 They're like, hey man.
01:06:32.000 I'm like, I'm really high right now on K. And usually people are like, oh, okay.
01:06:37.000 Yeah, I've never done it like that.
01:06:39.000 I've only tried it a little bit.
01:06:42.000 I've tried the therapeutic dose.
01:06:44.000 I was like, oh, it's kind of interesting.
01:06:46.000 But too many people I know are too into it.
01:06:48.000 And I'm like, that just seems...
01:06:49.000 Fraud with peril.
01:06:51.000 Yeah, there's definitely addiction problems.
01:06:53.000 I tend to not have issues with that.
01:06:58.000 I'm saying that.
01:06:58.000 I'm addicted to food, but I'm not...
01:07:01.000 If I go on a tour and I don't have access to anything that I normally have access to because I don't drink, I just basically do these feel-frees and weed is definitely my constant, especially edibles.
01:07:14.000 And then K. That's kind of it at this point in my life.
01:07:17.000 But if I go on tour and I don't have access to any of that, I don't really notice.
01:07:21.000 It could be weeks, and I'm like, I don't notice.
01:07:23.000 That's fortunate.
01:07:24.000 Yeah, I feel very fortunate.
01:07:25.000 That means you're not using it to cover something up, probably.
01:07:29.000 You're not using it to hide.
01:07:31.000 You're using it to experience something.
01:07:32.000 Yeah, I want to explore.
01:07:34.000 I've had crazy shit happen where I was at a cool party and this person had converted a room to make it look like the rainforest, like a Brazilian rainforest.
01:07:46.000 And it had like Dolby 5.1 storm sounds and associated lighting.
01:07:51.000 The lighting would change and stuff like that.
01:07:52.000 And this dope room.
01:07:53.000 And there's people on all kinds of things.
01:07:56.000 But I was really high.
01:07:58.000 I had a couple bumps, and then I had a 200-milligram lozenge.
01:08:01.000 And I was with a friend of mine, Mason.
01:08:03.000 And I sat cross-legged, and I put my hands like this, and I became a statue.
01:08:09.000 I just froze.
01:08:10.000 When you're saying bumps, are you saying you're sniffing it?
01:08:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:13.000 Sniffing it, yeah.
01:08:14.000 So just a couple, three bumps or whatever.
01:08:19.000 The Coke variant, if you know Coke, what a bump is.
01:08:22.000 It's about the same for ketamine.
01:08:24.000 But I had one of those, and we had the lozenge kicked in, and we went deep into a K-hole.
01:08:29.000 Interesting thing was, there was a guy, he's probably like 20 feet away, there's people talking all over the place, storm systems, all this stuff.
01:08:37.000 I hear this little voice through the storm, in the distance, going like, Hey, if anybody's out there, I'm having a crazy trip right now.
01:08:47.000 And I responded.
01:08:48.000 I'm pretty sure this is real.
01:08:50.000 I responded in the quietest voice.
01:08:51.000 I was like, no, I can totally hear you.
01:08:53.000 What's going on?
01:08:54.000 We started having a conversation back and forth.
01:08:57.000 And Mason can attest to it because he heard me talking.
01:08:59.000 He's like, who were you talking to?
01:09:01.000 I was like, I was talking to that guy over there.
01:09:03.000 And it was a real conversation.
01:09:05.000 I was like, how is this possible?
01:09:06.000 How can I be having this super quiet conversation?
01:09:10.000 It's almost like quantum tunneling or something like that with this person.
01:09:13.000 And that's happened more than once and where it's almost, I don't want to say telepathy.
01:09:20.000 Supernatural.
01:09:20.000 It's not telepathy, but I think that it is possible.
01:09:23.000 I mean, they are producing sound, but maybe the brain is able to Completely, like, noise cancelling.
01:09:30.000 Just take out all of the noise and focus on that voice.
01:09:34.000 I've had weird telepathic stuff on it.
01:09:36.000 That's why I'm interested in, like, doing more research in different states and seeing what results can be released.
01:09:41.000 You know, when they first discovered Harmin, they tried to call it telepathine.
01:09:47.000 Really?
01:09:48.000 Yeah.
01:09:48.000 What is that?
01:09:49.000 Well, HARMINE is a MOA inhibitor that's a part of ayahuasca and many other...
01:09:56.000 There was one that we talked about yesterday that Brian Murrow Rescue brought up that was...
01:10:02.000 It was a harmin, what was it with, Jamie?
01:10:05.000 It was a lotus flower, right?
01:10:07.000 That's what it was, right?
01:10:09.000 That the ancient Egyptians used.
01:10:11.000 It's an MAO inhibitor, so it stops monoamine oxidase in the gut, and that's what makes dimethyltryptamine orally active.
01:10:22.000 Oh, right.
01:10:23.000 And so harmin, so when they first experienced these altered states, They were trying to isolate the compounds that were responsible for it.
01:10:32.000 And one of them, they decided, was causing these telepathic experiences.
01:10:37.000 And so they tried to call it telepathine.
01:10:40.000 But because of scientific nomenclature, it had already been discovered as harmine.
01:10:45.000 So it had already been labeled as harmine.
01:10:47.000 So they kept it as harmine.
01:10:48.000 But for a while, they were calling it telepathine.
01:10:51.000 Because the people that were experiencing that were having these communications without words, and they were experiencing things in unison, together.
01:11:01.000 They were experiencing these visions that they felt like they were communicating with each other through this vision without talking.
01:11:10.000 I mean, I completely believe it.
01:11:12.000 I mean, I've had too many incredible experiences on those types, especially dissociatives.
01:11:19.000 I mean, this is a different substance that we're talking about, but I've had experiences where you're...
01:11:24.000 I don't know what it is.
01:11:25.000 I've done crazy stuff where I don't have the greatest knees, and so I'm always careful of it.
01:11:31.000 I'm on ketamine, and suddenly I'm on the ground doing that duck walk or whatever.
01:11:36.000 No problem.
01:11:37.000 You don't have the greatest knees in what way?
01:11:39.000 They're just not hot.
01:11:41.000 I like hot knees, guys.
01:11:44.000 They're not sexy enough.
01:11:45.000 Maybe get them tattooed.
01:11:46.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:11:47.000 I'll just get a huge band around each one.
01:11:50.000 Suns on each one of them or something.
01:11:53.000 Low cartilage on the back of each kneecap so from so there's rub it's just I think it's just genetic like a just a Genetic thing that happened.
01:12:01.000 I also I'm knock-kneed so I was I was born with like not the greatest like Knees and then not feed is how does that work?
01:12:09.000 So knock the you know, it's like you're kind of knees go in yeah, it's like you know There's a physical therapist that can correct that with exercises Yeah, well, the shape of the...
01:12:19.000 I mean, really the best thing for it, if I was a kid, and maybe now too, is riding horses.
01:12:25.000 Riding horses?
01:12:25.000 Interesting.
01:12:26.000 Well, you know how they always say cowboys are bow-legged?
01:12:29.000 It's because they're always in the stirrups and they're around.
01:12:31.000 Pushing against.
01:12:32.000 Yeah, and so it makes their legs go out.
01:12:34.000 So when I was a kid, they were like, if you ride horses, you can correct your knock-kneedness.
01:12:39.000 Could you correct your noctineness with like a machine, like one of those abductor, adductor machines?
01:12:45.000 I tried that for a while.
01:12:46.000 I don't think it's strong.
01:12:47.000 It's like no matter how strong your muscles get, like that's such a structural thing to actually change.
01:12:53.000 You should talk to somebody that's an expert in that.
01:12:55.000 I would.
01:12:56.000 There's some people that have said that like pigeon-toed people, that you can unlearn that.
01:13:00.000 For sure.
01:13:01.000 Pigeon-toed is like, that's a little bit more correctable, for sure, because that's orientation.
01:13:06.000 That's like a conscious orientation, strengthening the right muscles.
01:13:09.000 I think with the knee, I don't know, the knees just feel more like it's like a joint.
01:13:13.000 It's like if you had a joint and you bent it, it's like the joint's bent, but now you've got to bend it back.
01:13:18.000 Right, but what are you doing to fix that, is what I'm asking.
01:13:21.000 I'm just complaining.
01:13:23.000 No, I... Not a lot other than trying to make sure that my feet are in line.
01:13:32.000 Oh, I'm doing a lot of Asian squats.
01:13:36.000 Asian squats.
01:13:37.000 Or like a deep squat.
01:13:38.000 When you sit really deep in a squat.
01:13:40.000 So I'll do that for about two minutes.
01:13:42.000 And I do it randomly.
01:13:43.000 I'll be at a grocery store waiting in line.
01:13:45.000 I'll just get down.
01:13:46.000 And that helps my knees.
01:13:48.000 It feels pretty good.
01:13:50.000 It feels like it's kind of aligning something the more I do that.
01:13:53.000 You should probably do Hindu squats.
01:13:56.000 Do you know what Hindu squats are?
01:13:57.000 It's a great way to develop your leg muscles and strengthen your knees.
01:14:01.000 It's an air squat.
01:14:04.000 You just do it with your body weight.
01:14:05.000 When you go down, you put your hands behind you.
01:14:09.000 And you raise your heels up off the ground.
01:14:12.000 You touch your fingertips to the ground.
01:14:15.000 And then as you go up, your feet go down and you raise your arms in front of you.
01:14:20.000 And so you breathe in.
01:14:22.000 Like this.
01:14:23.000 Like that.
01:14:24.000 I do those.
01:14:25.000 See those?
01:14:25.000 Oh, that's sick.
01:14:26.000 Those are phenomenal.
01:14:27.000 Wow.
01:14:28.000 I do 100 of those every day.
01:14:30.000 Wow.
01:14:31.000 Now that's something I'm going to do, because as I grow older, my whole thing is mobility and strength.
01:14:39.000 And so, yeah.
01:14:42.000 I do those, and I also like to do it on a slant board.
01:14:45.000 A slant board is nice too, because a slant board...
01:14:48.000 It forces your heels up at a 45 degree angle.
01:14:53.000 And then because of that, it really strengthens the supportive muscles of your knee.
01:15:01.000 And it's a really good exercise for knee strengthening.
01:15:05.000 I do a lot of knee strengthening stuff.
01:15:07.000 A lot of it.
01:15:08.000 I do it every day because I've had three knee surgeries and I've done martial arts since I was a little kid.
01:15:13.000 So I have a bunch of knee issues.
01:15:15.000 I got you.
01:15:15.000 Yeah, I will try any of that.
01:15:18.000 Yeah, you have to do something.
01:15:19.000 I can help you.
01:15:20.000 I would love that.
01:15:21.000 There's a great guy out there.
01:15:23.000 He's got an Instagram page called Knees Over Toes Guy.
01:15:26.000 And he takes people from step one, like with very little knee stability and strength, and he's got a multi-stage program where you slowly keep adding more exercises, adding more resistance, and strengthen the structure around your knee.
01:15:42.000 Because a lot of the problems that people have...
01:15:44.000 The knee is not supported well by the musculature, by your tendons and ligaments and muscles.
01:15:50.000 It's not supported well.
01:15:52.000 It's not strong enough.
01:15:52.000 So it's unstable.
01:15:54.000 And so it twists and moves.
01:15:56.000 And there's a lot of injuries that people have specifically because of that.
01:16:00.000 I've made my knees much stronger since I've started this program.
01:16:04.000 Man, I gotta do that.
01:16:06.000 That's probably the area that I think about the most.
01:16:09.000 I don't have flexibility.
01:16:10.000 I have pretty good flexibility.
01:16:12.000 All this stuff is good in mobility.
01:16:15.000 I have a lot of mobility.
01:16:18.000 My knees have always been the thing.
01:16:20.000 But the last time, really when I stopped working out, I was training all the time.
01:16:24.000 Yeah, you were getting jacked.
01:16:25.000 I was getting pretty jacked.
01:16:25.000 I need to get re-jacked.
01:16:26.000 But I was doing a leg press, and I think my feet were a little bit too low on the plate, so I put too much pressure on my right knee.
01:16:37.000 And just something...
01:16:39.000 It wasn't like a major or anything like that, but it didn't quite feel right after a certain press.
01:16:45.000 I would not recommend leg presses.
01:16:48.000 Yeah, like...
01:16:49.000 I mean, if you're a bodybuilder...
01:16:51.000 And leg extensions.
01:16:51.000 Those are bad, too.
01:16:52.000 Well, they're not necessarily bad.
01:16:54.000 Yeah.
01:16:55.000 But it's just like, there's ways to strengthen your knees that aren't so problematic.
01:17:00.000 And, you know, I don't lift heavy weights.
01:17:03.000 Nothing I lift is heavy.
01:17:04.000 High reps?
01:17:04.000 Yeah.
01:17:05.000 Well, the heaviest weight I lift is 70 pounds.
01:17:07.000 Okay.
01:17:08.000 It's kettlebells.
01:17:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:09.000 A 70-pound kettlebell.
01:17:10.000 It's the heaviest thing I pick up, other than my own body weight.
01:17:13.000 Copy.
01:17:13.000 But the vast majority of the stuff that I do is body weight.
01:17:16.000 And you can do some pretty...
01:17:17.000 You can do a lot.
01:17:19.000 You can do a lot.
01:17:19.000 And you can really strengthen your legs with bodyweight exercises.
01:17:23.000 But I also do lunges with dumbbells and things like that.
01:17:26.000 I do a lot of different things.
01:17:27.000 But leg presses...
01:17:29.000 There's so many videos of people hyperextending their leg the wrong way with their ego lifting.
01:17:35.000 And they have like a giant stack.
01:17:37.000 And then they lock their legs out.
01:17:38.000 It pops back that way.
01:17:39.000 And they're screaming in agony.
01:17:41.000 And their knee is destroyed.
01:17:42.000 I've seen so many of those online.
01:17:45.000 Ugh.
01:17:46.000 Something about my Instagram search algorithm is horrific.
01:17:50.000 It keeps reminding you.
01:17:51.000 It's like, remember this.
01:17:52.000 I've seen so many of those gym fail things where people are squatting too much and their legs explode.
01:17:57.000 I can't do that.
01:17:59.000 You're not trying to be a bodybuilder, so get off those things.
01:18:01.000 Yeah.
01:18:02.000 I mean, for me, it's like, at this point, I wanted to get jacked specifically for a thing I was doing, but now I'm more about...
01:18:08.000 I just want to become mobile and strong.
01:18:11.000 And that's it.
01:18:13.000 And however that looks, that's how it looks.
01:18:16.000 Yeah.
01:18:16.000 That's all I do.
01:18:17.000 I don't do anything for aesthetics.
01:18:19.000 Not one single thing.
01:18:21.000 So it's all functional.
01:18:22.000 All of it's functional.
01:18:23.000 And all of it is...
01:18:25.000 It's either bodyweight exercises like chin-ups, dips, push-ups, bodyweight squats, pull-ups.
01:18:32.000 It's either those things or it's kettlebells.
01:18:35.000 So all those things, they make you use your body as one thing.
01:18:40.000 You know, your body has to...
01:18:42.000 It's not an isolation exercise, which is...
01:18:45.000 Yeah.
01:18:46.000 I just don't think that...
01:18:47.000 That's not...
01:18:48.000 It's not for me.
01:18:49.000 I want something that helps my body do martial arts better.
01:18:52.000 Helps my body function better.
01:18:53.000 Yeah.
01:18:54.000 I don't fuck around with any...
01:18:57.000 I mean, I'm not, like, shitting on them.
01:18:58.000 If you want to get bigger and you want to look like a bodybuilder, yeah, there's a real clear way to do it.
01:19:03.000 Those guys do it.
01:19:03.000 But that's not what I'm interested in.
01:19:05.000 Yeah, no, I get that.
01:19:06.000 That's, well, yeah, that's my next phase.
01:19:08.000 I'm kind of moving into that because, like, last year when my mother died and, like, all the, you know, post-pandemic, like, I just, I had a lot of stuff and it's like, and that injury happened.
01:19:18.000 I was like, oh, man.
01:19:19.000 And so I got kind of You know, just pudgy.
01:19:22.000 And now I feel like probably the weakest I've felt in a long time.
01:19:25.000 Did you have a trainer before?
01:19:27.000 I did, but it was so expensive.
01:19:28.000 And now that I'm done with the Late Late Show, I have to watch my money a little bit until the next thing comes along.
01:19:34.000 But like, I mean, I'm doing fine, but I do have to...
01:19:37.000 But that's actually...
01:19:38.000 I don't know.
01:19:39.000 I'd almost be worth going bankrupt for that.
01:19:42.000 Because it's like, I'd rather be happy.
01:19:44.000 I want my health.
01:19:45.000 My health is the important thing for me in my life.
01:19:47.000 And I started working with these guys called BioCoach.
01:19:51.000 I don't know if you've heard of those guys.
01:19:53.000 BioCoach.
01:19:53.000 So they deal with metabolic health.
01:19:55.000 And so I was working with them.
01:19:57.000 They've given me a couple free months about it.
01:19:59.000 But the biggest thing really is about, I get one of these...
01:20:02.000 CGM, continuous glucose monitor, and keep my glucose levels in a certain level.
01:20:08.000 And that's helped my energy a lot.
01:20:09.000 So I'm not doing any sugar and bread and stuff like that.
01:20:12.000 That's good.
01:20:12.000 Oh, there you go.
01:20:13.000 That's step one for everybody.
01:20:15.000 Huge.
01:20:15.000 And the inflammation in my knees have gone down.
01:20:17.000 Of course.
01:20:18.000 Those things cause inflammation.
01:20:20.000 I know.
01:20:21.000 It's crazy to me.
01:20:22.000 And I know that some people are like, I gotta have my sugar.
01:20:26.000 But you don't.
01:20:27.000 You don't.
01:20:28.000 And you can once in a while.
01:20:30.000 It's fine.
01:20:30.000 But get the motor running.
01:20:32.000 I give myself a day, maybe once a week or every two weeks, where I just eat some bullshit.
01:20:37.000 And I always go, oh, that wasn't worth it.
01:20:39.000 That was not worth it.
01:20:41.000 But I give myself that day if I feel tired.
01:20:43.000 I like to do it late night if I come home from the club.
01:20:46.000 I see.
01:20:47.000 And it's like 1 o'clock in the morning.
01:20:48.000 I'm hungry.
01:20:49.000 I'm like, fuck it.
01:20:50.000 Yeah.
01:20:50.000 Gonna work out in the morning.
01:20:51.000 Yep.
01:20:52.000 Fuck around.
01:20:53.000 I always feel like, oh, afterwards.
01:20:55.000 But it never feels great.
01:20:57.000 I give myself a little mouth pleasure.
01:20:58.000 Give myself a little fun.
01:21:00.000 You gotta do what you gotta do when you got it.
01:21:02.000 A little cake.
01:21:02.000 A little cookie.
01:21:03.000 A little something.
01:21:04.000 A little cookie.
01:21:05.000 You know, it's now when I see, like, when you've been on that for a while, when you haven't been, you know, basically keto, but, like, when you've been doing that a while, now when I see a snack tray or, like, you know, I'm backstage and there's all these chips and stuff like that, I'm not even remotely interested in it.
01:21:20.000 That's great.
01:21:21.000 That's also your gut biome.
01:21:24.000 If you eat a lot of sugar, a lot of carbs, your body wants that.
01:21:29.000 Give me some of that stuff.
01:21:31.000 I know.
01:21:31.000 It becomes a parasite.
01:21:33.000 It's a parasitic thinking.
01:21:34.000 And that's what I noticed for me when I'd be at home.
01:21:37.000 Now what I need to do is I need to get out of my...
01:21:39.000 I should work out.
01:21:40.000 And then I go on the phone.
01:21:42.000 And it's like, oh, it's too late to work out now because I got this thing.
01:21:45.000 So I guess I better just do the thing.
01:21:46.000 I'll work out later.
01:21:47.000 It never happens.
01:21:48.000 But the one thing I will say that's really helped me is dancing.
01:21:52.000 Oh, okay.
01:21:53.000 Well, that's working out.
01:21:54.000 That's my, like...
01:21:55.000 Because I love to dance.
01:21:57.000 You know, Dance Dance Revolution made a lot of people lose weight.
01:22:00.000 That's right, right?
01:22:00.000 Yeah.
01:22:01.000 A lot of people lost weight.
01:22:02.000 I mean...
01:22:02.000 A lot of people lost weight.
01:22:04.000 Because it's a game.
01:22:05.000 You're playing a fun game that you get addicted to that actually makes you move your body and burn a lot of calories.
01:22:10.000 Man, I... I love it.
01:22:12.000 Because isolated workouts, like, it's cool.
01:22:13.000 I can do treadmill.
01:22:15.000 Like, treadmill, I can walk for an hour and just, like, you know, 10% incline, whatever, three miles per hour.
01:22:20.000 I'll just, like, watch stuff on YouTube and I don't even notice and I feel great.
01:22:25.000 I feel so good.
01:22:26.000 And, like, walking a lot is great.
01:22:27.000 But my ultimate, if I'm going to do an isolated, is hiking.
01:22:32.000 Oh, hiking's great.
01:22:33.000 Steep grade hiking.
01:22:34.000 I don't know what happens to my brain, but I'm just like, eh.
01:22:37.000 Like, I'm just like, I gotta get up that hill.
01:22:39.000 It's natural.
01:22:40.000 Something...
01:22:41.000 Well, it's natural for human beings.
01:22:43.000 It's a natural thing to do.
01:22:44.000 Yeah.
01:22:45.000 And also you're outside and hopefully you have good scenery.
01:22:48.000 It's nice.
01:22:49.000 It fulfills you in all sorts of different ways.
01:22:52.000 Yeah.
01:22:53.000 I don't know.
01:22:53.000 I'm just, yeah, right now in my life I'm like, okay, post Late Late Show, what do I got going on?
01:22:58.000 I got this book.
01:22:59.000 I got, you know, some other things in the works and some of the things I'm pitching.
01:23:04.000 But mostly I'm just about, I want to do the stuff that I want to do and feel good about it.
01:23:09.000 Enjoy your life.
01:23:10.000 I'm gonna enjoy my life.
01:23:11.000 I'm going to Berlin for a couple months just to go there and produce music.
01:23:15.000 And Porsche always hooks me up with a car when I'm there and drive the Autobahn.
01:23:20.000 I just did my first track day.
01:23:22.000 Did you?
01:23:22.000 With a real instructor.
01:23:23.000 Oh, sick!
01:23:24.000 Isn't that fun?
01:23:24.000 Oh my god, it was amazing.
01:23:26.000 What were you in?
01:23:26.000 I was in my cars.
01:23:29.000 You just brought all of them?
01:23:30.000 No, I brought two of them.
01:23:31.000 I brought my Ford GT and I brought my GT3 RS. You have a GT3 RS? Yeah, I have a 2007 manual, Shark Works car.
01:23:42.000 It's so fast and so light.
01:23:44.000 That one was hard to handle.
01:23:46.000 That one, like, boy, you really feel the difference between...
01:23:48.000 Even with all that Danforth?
01:23:49.000 Yeah.
01:23:50.000 The rear, well, the 2007s don't have the same kind of downforce as the 2023. 2023 has this massive wing.
01:23:56.000 It's insane downforce.
01:23:58.000 It's an incredible car.
01:23:59.000 I did drive a modern 2023 GT3 around the track as well that they had there.
01:24:05.000 Oh, how was that?
01:24:05.000 Much easier to handle than my car.
01:24:07.000 My car is a wild bitch.
01:24:10.000 It's so light.
01:24:12.000 It doesn't have any nanny stuff to it.
01:24:14.000 There's no traction control, no nothing.
01:24:15.000 It's a car.
01:24:16.000 It's a full-on track car that you could drive in the street.
01:24:18.000 It's really fun.
01:24:19.000 God, the Ford GT was magic.
01:24:21.000 I have a 2005 Ford GT. Wow.
01:24:24.000 And that thing is incredible.
01:24:25.000 It just hugs the road.
01:24:27.000 It wants you to like bend into the corners.
01:24:30.000 It's got massive tires and a giant engine right behind you that's supercharged.
01:24:35.000 Yeah.
01:24:36.000 It sounds incredible.
01:24:38.000 Low, wide.
01:24:38.000 It feels low and wide.
01:24:39.000 Yeah.
01:24:40.000 Oh my god.
01:24:41.000 Man, I'm telling you.
01:24:42.000 You know what the 2005s look like, right?
01:24:44.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:24:46.000 When did the new GTs come out?
01:24:48.000 What was the first model years?
01:24:49.000 2003 or something?
01:24:50.000 Well, the first one was the GT40. That was a car that they used.
01:24:53.000 That's that movie, Ferrari vs.
01:24:56.000 Ford.
01:24:56.000 Oh, right.
01:24:57.000 And that one even had the bubble top, right?
01:24:59.000 When it went in the race for that guy's head or whatever.
01:25:01.000 I'll send this to Jamie so you can see mine.
01:25:05.000 Oh, yeah.
01:25:05.000 I want to see yours.
01:25:07.000 It's the one that I had, they came out with it again in like the early 2000s, I think, 2004 or 5. And then there's a new one that they just came out with that's just all paddle shifts.
01:25:18.000 Mine's a manual.
01:25:19.000 Oh, wow.
01:25:20.000 Okay.
01:25:20.000 Mine is still a manual.
01:25:22.000 But going around a track with an instructor, you realize why a paddle shifter is the way to go.
01:25:27.000 Oh, man.
01:25:28.000 On the street, that's my car.
01:25:30.000 Oh, it's gorgeous, man.
01:25:33.000 Spiders.
01:25:33.000 Nice.
01:25:34.000 That is a clean machine.
01:25:37.000 Oh, my God.
01:25:38.000 It's so low and so wide and it handles so well.
01:25:41.000 It's just like when you're going around the corner, it feels like this is what I want to do.
01:25:47.000 It tells you, like, yes, this is what we like.
01:25:50.000 Plus, it's got that 60s vibe to it that's pretty sweet.
01:25:53.000 It's such a good-looking car.
01:25:55.000 My God.
01:25:55.000 I am so stoked on, like, because I have a Porsche Taycan Turbo S, and I have a...
01:26:02.000 That thing's amazing.
01:26:03.000 That thing is, it's...
01:26:04.000 It's amazing.
01:26:05.000 It's like, I mean, there's faster cars, you got the Plaid, you got the fucking...
01:26:09.000 Barely faster.
01:26:11.000 Yeah, I know.
01:26:11.000 If you find out that it's faster, you're a fucking asshole.
01:26:14.000 I know.
01:26:14.000 Like, you have to be so crazy to take that Taycan Turbo S and try to compare it.
01:26:19.000 I just remember like going up the, you know, the Angeles National Forest, you know, Angeles Crest.
01:26:25.000 So going up to the Crest because there's that Friday meetup that happens.
01:26:29.000 Was it Good Vibes Breakfast Club?
01:26:31.000 Jay Ryan and his wife, they started it.
01:26:35.000 But so we always meet up there every Friday morning.
01:26:38.000 And that drive up there, especially if there's like no one ahead of you and you get those nice long stretches of curb.
01:26:43.000 There was a motorcycle.
01:26:44.000 We went up the back way.
01:26:47.000 Motorcycle was behind me, and he thought he was just gonna decimate me or whatever.
01:26:52.000 And I was in front of him, and then he was just gone.
01:26:57.000 And he was like, I can't believe you lost me.
01:27:00.000 I've never been able to lose somebody.
01:27:01.000 He was on some super bike, like crazy, and he's a really experienced rider.
01:27:04.000 He's like, you just disappeared.
01:27:06.000 And he's like, and you were staying in your lane the whole time.
01:27:10.000 And I was like, yeah, the Taycan, I like...
01:27:13.000 I like, because I have also a 911 Turbo S 2022. So I have both those.
01:27:19.000 The Turbo S is a nasty monster, but it's more analog.
01:27:24.000 It's got like a, it grips, feels like a mountain goat.
01:27:26.000 The Taycan is like, it's just like, it's a spaceship.
01:27:30.000 And it's all about weight management, because it's so heavy.
01:27:34.000 Well, also, the weight is all on the bottom.
01:27:36.000 That's where the batteries are.
01:27:37.000 So the weight distribution is amazing.
01:27:39.000 It's crazy.
01:27:40.000 But it feels like a snowboard.
01:27:41.000 I never snowboarded, but it feels like snowboarding, really.
01:27:44.000 Because it's like, I'm taking this corner, so it feels more like this, this, as opposed to a 911 is more like...
01:27:51.000 It's like magnetically held to the ground, and it feels like it's crouching when it's going into a corner.
01:27:58.000 And so it's a different experience.
01:28:00.000 It's a little lighter.
01:28:01.000 Rear steer is amazing.
01:28:03.000 But the Taycan is just...
01:28:04.000 So I'm looking forward to...
01:28:08.000 If they can make a Taycan that's a third less weight, I'd take 80 miles of range to have a lighter Taycan.
01:28:15.000 Well, if they had a two-door.
01:28:16.000 If they come up with a two-door Taycan and make it the size of a 911. The Cayman's coming.
01:28:20.000 Electric Cayman.
01:28:21.000 Really?
01:28:22.000 Yeah.
01:28:22.000 Oh my god, that's going to be insane.
01:28:24.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:28:24.000 Or, is that right?
01:28:26.000 Yeah, the 718. That's Cayman, right?
01:28:28.000 Yeah.
01:28:28.000 Yeah.
01:28:28.000 So that's going to come out either 2024 or 2025. But I also heard that the new Macan Electric, which won't be called the Macan Electric, because I think they're just calling it the Macan, that everyone's saying, like, that's the joint.
01:28:42.000 I don't think it's going to perform as well as a lower car.
01:28:45.000 Right.
01:28:45.000 Well, the X is a pretty fucking amazing car.
01:28:48.000 Yeah.
01:28:48.000 The Tesla X. Yeah.
01:28:49.000 Jamie had one of those for a while.
01:28:51.000 Yeah.
01:28:52.000 Really?
01:28:52.000 That egg wagon?
01:28:53.000 Dude, that thing doesn't tip over.
01:28:55.000 Okay.
01:28:56.000 That thing literally doesn't tip over you, you get nailed.
01:28:58.000 If somebody t-bones you, it doesn't tip over.
01:29:00.000 Right.
01:29:00.000 Because all the weights at the bottom of the thing, it's just like, boop, boop, always like lands back on its side.
01:29:06.000 Man.
01:29:06.000 So the handling of those things, because the weight is all in the bottom.
01:29:10.000 Yeah, it's like almost, yeah, most of it.
01:29:13.000 You know, but then it comes in but then you get Porsche and then when you're in a Porsche it always comes back It's the shape of it.
01:29:20.000 Oh, that's the moose the moose test.
01:29:22.000 What is that?
01:29:23.000 That's not doing well.
01:29:24.000 It's a Kia Those things handle my bitch.
01:29:28.000 Yeah, but it's funny like I've driven, you know modern Tesla's I've driven an X a Y a three performance But then you get into like if you drive a Say an S, right?
01:29:40.000 Not even the non-Plaid.
01:29:42.000 Or even a Plaid.
01:29:43.000 You're driving it.
01:29:44.000 Whoa, this thing's fast.
01:29:45.000 It's crazy, right?
01:29:46.000 And you just jump immediately into a Taycan.
01:29:49.000 The driving feel is night and day.
01:29:52.000 It's insane how different it is.
01:29:54.000 Well, the Taycan's a Porsche.
01:29:55.000 Yeah, I know.
01:29:56.000 Their ergonomics are impeccable.
01:29:58.000 The interior is perfect.
01:30:00.000 It's just, it's like, and I love it.
01:30:02.000 And they've been so good to me.
01:30:04.000 They've been really cool.
01:30:05.000 They've invited me to all kinds of stuff.
01:30:07.000 They've like, took me to Goodwood.
01:30:09.000 I'm super appreciative of those guys.
01:30:11.000 They're really cool.
01:30:11.000 They know how much passion I have about their cars, and I'm so excited about their electric stuff.
01:30:15.000 And it's hard to go to another car.
01:30:18.000 Like I was thinking about Lucid for a while, that new Sapphire that's coming out.
01:30:22.000 That's like the fastest thing on the planet.
01:30:24.000 Really?
01:30:25.000 I haven't seen anything about that.
01:30:26.000 Haven't seen that?
01:30:26.000 Oh my god.
01:30:27.000 Lucid Sapphire, three motor, 1100 horsepower or 1100 something something.
01:30:32.000 It's like this cheeky number.
01:30:34.000 And it is 0 to 61.86 seconds.
01:30:38.000 Their claim, there it is.
01:30:39.000 Their claim is that it's basically all the performance, it's 90% of the performance of a Rimac Nevera for a tenth of the price.
01:30:51.000 Wow, look at that thing.
01:30:52.000 That looks amazing.
01:30:53.000 And that's all California made.
01:30:54.000 California designed.
01:30:55.000 California manufactured.
01:30:57.000 Seats are great.
01:30:58.000 The interior looks nice.
01:30:59.000 Yeah.
01:30:59.000 Oh, look at that.
01:31:00.000 That screen in the middle folds up.
01:31:02.000 How reliable are these?
01:31:04.000 I don't know.
01:31:04.000 See, that's the thing about it.
01:31:05.000 The Tesla's very reliable.
01:31:06.000 Very reliable.
01:31:07.000 But this is an electric car, so, you know, you're talking about three electric motors.
01:31:10.000 Doug DeMuro.
01:31:11.000 And who's this company, Lucid?
01:31:13.000 How long have they been around for?
01:31:15.000 They've been around for, I'm going to say, like five or six years, something like that.
01:31:19.000 It's the former, one of the executives from Tesla.
01:31:22.000 It's his company.
01:31:23.000 Oh, interesting.
01:31:25.000 And the people that did the handling, their ex-Lotus engineers, it's insane.
01:31:31.000 Yeah, and...
01:31:34.000 My friend Johnny Lieberman, who's the one...
01:31:38.000 Yeah, I know who that guy is.
01:31:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:31:39.000 So Johnny, I kept going like, but I don't know, the Taycan's coming out with a three-motor Taycan soon or whatever.
01:31:45.000 He's like, the Sapphire.
01:31:47.000 I was like, are you for sure?
01:31:48.000 He's like, no, the Sapphire's the one.
01:31:49.000 I'm like, okay, okay.
01:31:51.000 So I haven't driven that, but I can't imagine...
01:31:55.000 Can I see some more images of the outside of it, Jeremy?
01:31:58.000 Yeah.
01:31:58.000 It's a sexy car, man.
01:32:01.000 I mean, it used to be two-tone, so the upper part was like this silver.
01:32:06.000 Then they created this stealth paint job, which now it looks like a great car.
01:32:11.000 Where do you get one, though?
01:32:13.000 Do you have to get it online?
01:32:14.000 Is there a dealership who fixes them?
01:32:17.000 They have dealers.
01:32:19.000 It'd be interesting to hear the Sapphire Air.
01:32:23.000 1200 horsepower.
01:32:25.000 Yeah.
01:32:25.000 Jeez Louise.
01:32:26.000 It's a nasty piece of machinery.
01:32:28.000 It's really, really dope.
01:32:31.000 It's a cool piece.
01:32:32.000 But I tried, I called them, I had a meeting with them, and I was like, what do you think about doing a PR thing where I hand over my Tycon, which...
01:32:43.000 I'll say the Taycan's probably slightly better looking.
01:32:47.000 That's a good looking car.
01:32:48.000 But the Taycan is a little bit better looking.
01:32:50.000 Taycan's better looking.
01:32:51.000 I have it in coffee beige, which gets all the attention.
01:32:54.000 Everyone's always like, oh my god, what's that color?
01:32:56.000 What's that color?
01:32:57.000 Let me see that.
01:32:57.000 Pull up coffee beige Taycan Turbo S. Yeah.
01:33:01.000 I want to see what that looks like.
01:33:02.000 I love that.
01:33:04.000 That color, when I got it, I was like, I don't know.
01:33:06.000 I wanted to go for chalk, but then coffee beige seemed warmer.
01:33:12.000 Yeah, that's mine right there on the far left.
01:33:18.000 That's what it looks like.
01:33:19.000 Oh, that's nice.
01:33:21.000 That's a better looking car.
01:33:22.000 It's got like, and it's got the 911 roofline.
01:33:24.000 Although my chrome, I don't have chrome.
01:33:26.000 It's all blacked out.
01:33:27.000 But I have those same wheels.
01:33:29.000 And then he doesn't have the carbon fiber.
01:33:32.000 Or sorry, I didn't carbon fiber, but carbon.
01:33:34.000 That's a beautiful car.
01:33:35.000 That's a beautiful car.
01:33:36.000 That's a better looking car.
01:33:37.000 And it's all 20. It's 20%.
01:33:39.000 I've got 20 tenths on everything.
01:33:41.000 Anyways, point is, I'm just excited.
01:33:43.000 I think Porsche, between their eFuel that they're investing in, so you can keep running their cars at an ecological balance, because they're making this out of Chile.
01:33:55.000 I don't know how much if they can scale it, but they are running eFuel for the races, so like the Porsche Cups and stuff like that.
01:34:02.000 What is eFuel?
01:34:03.000 So e-fuel is, it uses, it's a process, it uses captured carbon with some kind of a chemical process that produces a combustible, or, yeah, combustible fuel, combustion fuel, I guess that's how you say it.
01:34:16.000 And so you can just replace it.
01:34:18.000 It's a direct.
01:34:18.000 Any car can use it.
01:34:19.000 It's just fuel.
01:34:21.000 But the way it's produced is zero, uses zero emissions.
01:34:24.000 So it still combusts.
01:34:26.000 And I think it combusts at a lower – there's less carbon that's created when it combusts and the process of making it is zero.
01:34:33.000 So it becomes an ecological fuel.
01:34:37.000 So they call it e-fuel.
01:34:38.000 And they – of course they invested in that because they want to keep making combustion – Yeah.
01:34:43.000 Well, there's something about the sound of a combustion engine that's impossible to replicate.
01:34:48.000 And when they try to do it, like fake it, it's so gross.
01:34:51.000 I don't like the fake shit.
01:34:53.000 I will say that the Taycan, their sport sound that comes on...
01:34:57.000 Yeah, it's like you can turn it on or when you go into sport mode, it turns on.
01:35:01.000 All it is is an amplified version.
01:35:03.000 There are microphones that are picking up the sound of the motors, as far as I understand it.
01:35:08.000 I could be wrong on that, but I think that's how it was explained to me.
01:35:11.000 And it just amplifies with some extra tonalities, so it gives it a little bit of a...
01:35:16.000 It almost sounds like gear shifts, which is kind of weird, but for me...
01:35:22.000 Let me hear what it sounds like.
01:35:23.000 Yeah, if you have a Taycan sound.
01:35:27.000 Let's see.
01:35:29.000 Wow, that's going to be...
01:35:31.000 That's it.
01:35:32.000 That's the sound.
01:35:32.000 Hear that low end that kicks in?
01:35:35.000 That sounds dope.
01:35:37.000 They tried to patent it recently in Europe.
01:35:39.000 They wouldn't let them.
01:35:42.000 So those are all...
01:35:44.000 That sounds fucking sick.
01:35:45.000 It's sick, man.
01:35:46.000 That sounds sick.
01:35:48.000 I mean, that's...
01:35:49.000 Oh my god, that's amazing.
01:35:51.000 I mean, it makes me want to be in it right now, but like...
01:35:55.000 That sounds fucking dope.
01:35:57.000 So it's just, it's an augmented sound that the car actually makes.
01:36:00.000 The motors actually make that sound.
01:36:02.000 Oh, here's the interior.
01:36:05.000 Are they in Poland?
01:36:06.000 Dude, that sounds dope.
01:36:09.000 And I like it because you feel that low-end rumble as you're driving.
01:36:13.000 So it does give you...
01:36:14.000 It gives you information.
01:36:15.000 Like, when I'm driving, I feel the car.
01:36:20.000 Because otherwise, if it's totally silent, it's weird.
01:36:23.000 It doesn't feel right.
01:36:25.000 Well, it does sound weird when I drive my car.
01:36:27.000 My Tesla S. Oh, yeah.
01:36:28.000 You got a Plaid.
01:36:29.000 That's yours.
01:36:30.000 Or no, that wasn't yours.
01:36:31.000 That's Jamie's.
01:36:31.000 Yeah, Jamie's.
01:36:32.000 I have one of those.
01:36:33.000 Yeah.
01:36:33.000 It's silent.
01:36:34.000 Yeah.
01:36:35.000 Which is like...
01:36:37.000 It's alright, but I don't mind it if the sound is just an augmentation of what the motors sound like.
01:36:44.000 Then I'm into it, especially when you've got a 3 motor going on.
01:36:46.000 Right, and that sounds like a cool spaceship type electric car.
01:36:50.000 Yeah, and then I'm like, because I feel like I could confidently, like, when I drive an electric car, I like both.
01:36:55.000 I mean, the Turbo S is amazing to drive.
01:36:59.000 Even though I do feel a little bit bad.
01:37:01.000 And I know that sports cars account for very, very little because it's a very, very small market.
01:37:07.000 But I still kind of feel a little bit eh.
01:37:09.000 And then when I tried the Taika, I'm just like, this thing is just, it's like, I feel fully free in a way.
01:37:15.000 One of the things that Jeremy Clarkson pointed out when he did a review of the Turbo, Is that the way the turbo filters the air, the air coming out of the exhaust is actually cleaner than the pollution air that's in the air.
01:37:31.000 Oh, really?
01:37:31.000 Yeah.
01:37:32.000 See, we can find that.
01:37:33.000 The particulate filters.
01:37:35.000 When you're in a polluted city, like if you're in a place like Los Angeles, like downtown L.A., Yeah.
01:37:40.000 The exhaust from a turbo, from a turbo Porsche, is actually less pollution than the actual air.
01:37:49.000 Yeah, I can believe that because everyone's complaining about the sound of it.
01:37:52.000 You can't rev it because the particulate filters are so strong because of the EU regulations.
01:37:57.000 So people are like, oh, well, they have a rev limiter.
01:37:59.000 It doesn't sound that good or whatever.
01:38:01.000 But I don't really care about that.
01:38:03.000 The performance is preposterous.
01:38:05.000 I mean, that...
01:38:06.000 It's electric car performance from a combustion engine.
01:38:08.000 Exactly.
01:38:08.000 That's why I wanted the Turbo S. Because I had the Taycan.
01:38:10.000 I was like, I want to know what the Turbo...
01:38:13.000 So, in the video above, Jeremy Clarkson, host of the Top Gear, says that Porsche 911 Turbo cleans the air in polluted cities like LA. While I have seen concept cars that clean there, I seriously doubt that any existing car, especially...
01:38:26.000 The Porsche 911 Turbo emits exhaust that is cleaner than air, even air in the most polluted cities.
01:38:32.000 Here's exactly what Clarkson says.
01:38:34.000 When you drive this car through a really polluted city, Los Angeles, Calcutta, Harrogate, wherever that is, something like that, the gas that comes out of the exhaust pipe is less toxic than the air going into the engine.
01:38:45.000 And I'm not joking, that's true.
01:38:46.000 This is like a small, efficient, easy-to-use vacuum cleaner.
01:38:50.000 This is called the Porsche Dyson.
01:38:52.000 So here's the question for Sunday afternoon.
01:38:53.000 What do you think?
01:38:54.000 Is he wrong?
01:38:54.000 Does he have...
01:38:55.000 Man, well, you just made me feel a little bit better.
01:38:58.000 I don't know if that's true, though.
01:39:00.000 Jeremy Clarkson has said multiple things that aren't true.
01:39:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:39:03.000 I mean, they famously rigged their Tesla episode to show that the Tesla died on the track, and it didn't die on the track.
01:39:11.000 I remember that.
01:39:12.000 I was like, why are you doing that?
01:39:14.000 Horrible.
01:39:14.000 Just do the shit honestly.
01:39:16.000 You're going to run into anomalies anyways.
01:39:17.000 Why do you have to invent that shit?
01:39:19.000 Well, because that's a reality show.
01:39:21.000 It's gross.
01:39:22.000 They have to create drama.
01:39:24.000 Yeah.
01:39:24.000 Create problems.
01:39:25.000 But to do that, you're like tanking a business.
01:39:28.000 I mean, how many people saw that and wouldn't buy one of those cars because of that?
01:39:32.000 Yeah, I know.
01:39:33.000 And I think Elon lost in court because I think part of the show is that it's entertainment.
01:39:39.000 Oh, I see.
01:39:40.000 So they're allowed to fake things.
01:39:42.000 I see.
01:39:43.000 Interesting.
01:39:43.000 Which is kind of fucked.
01:39:45.000 It's kind of fucked.
01:39:47.000 Well, you know what?
01:39:47.000 It's like a freedom that should exist.
01:39:49.000 However, to use it in that way is really poor taste.
01:39:55.000 And I don't know, maybe there's some kind of a consequence to it.
01:39:57.000 I think there's a consequence, certainly, to that business.
01:40:00.000 I mean, how many people saw that?
01:40:02.000 And I bet that was a big hit on the business.
01:40:04.000 Yeah, I remember seeing that and I was like...
01:40:07.000 Oh, really?
01:40:08.000 Okay.
01:40:09.000 Well, I don't know.
01:40:10.000 I mean, it's an electric car.
01:40:11.000 They're kind of hard to fuck up.
01:40:12.000 Yeah, I remember thinking, oh, well, it must be new tech.
01:40:14.000 I'll wait a while.
01:40:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:40:16.000 Oh, really?
01:40:18.000 Because right now it's fucking up.
01:40:19.000 But it wasn't fucking up.
01:40:20.000 No, it wasn't.
01:40:21.000 Yeah, I remember that was with the Plaid, right?
01:40:23.000 No.
01:40:24.000 Oh, that was just the- Early on.
01:40:25.000 Oh, it was the early Tesla.
01:40:27.000 The one that looked like a Lotus.
01:40:29.000 Oh, you're talking about the very first one.
01:40:31.000 Oh!
01:40:31.000 See, we can find it.
01:40:32.000 That was way back.
01:40:33.000 Yeah, the Roadster.
01:40:35.000 Yeah, the original Roadster.
01:40:37.000 I did not know that.
01:40:38.000 Meanwhile, the new Roadster is just like vaporware.
01:40:40.000 It's not going to happen.
01:40:41.000 Where is that fucking thing?
01:40:42.000 Everybody's killing it.
01:40:43.000 I mean, the Aspark owl is coming out, and that's going to blow that away.
01:40:46.000 You don't think it's going to happen?
01:40:47.000 I don't think so.
01:40:48.000 Well, maybe, but I just don't.
01:40:49.000 I don't know.
01:40:50.000 I don't think the appetite's there.
01:40:51.000 What?
01:40:52.000 I think Lotus and...
01:40:56.000 Oh, the appetite's there, dude, if it comes out.
01:40:58.000 If they make the Tesla Roadster the way that Elon showed it when they did that demo, 1.7 seconds, 0 to 60, looks insane.
01:41:06.000 I know, yeah.
01:41:07.000 It looks fucking cool as shit.
01:41:09.000 Two-seater.
01:41:10.000 Yeah, but it's going to be the same price as a Porsche Cayman, electric Cayman.
01:41:15.000 So it's like people are probably going to choose the Porsche.
01:41:17.000 We'll see.
01:41:18.000 I'd choose the Porsche every day.
01:41:21.000 I mean, the problem with Teslas, my problem with them, is that they don't have buttons.
01:41:24.000 Everything is touchscreen.
01:41:25.000 I do not like that.
01:41:27.000 I do not like that.
01:41:27.000 That is one thing you would appreciate about the Lucid.
01:41:29.000 Because the Lucid, the cockpit...
01:41:31.000 There it is.
01:41:31.000 It's a good looking car.
01:41:32.000 So you can still order that thing.
01:41:33.000 Yeah, but I found it on their website somehow.
01:41:36.000 Come on, that looks dope as fuck.
01:41:37.000 I mean, no, it looks sick.
01:41:39.000 It looks like a Ferrari.
01:41:40.000 That looks dope.
01:41:40.000 Looks like an electric Ferrari kind of smoothed over.
01:41:43.000 Well, it looks like a Tesla sports car is what it looks like.
01:41:45.000 But there's no timeline for this thing.
01:41:47.000 I mean, I think their road map is get out the truck first.
01:41:53.000 So the Cybertruck has started to be delivered.
01:41:56.000 And people are driving, apparently.
01:41:58.000 A friend of mine saw one in LA. Wow.
01:42:00.000 I do not like that truck.
01:42:01.000 Dude, have you seen it in real life?
01:42:03.000 Yes.
01:42:03.000 It's fucking sick.
01:42:04.000 Really?
01:42:05.000 I do not.
01:42:06.000 I love it.
01:42:07.000 I'd like to take a Rivian over that any day.
01:42:09.000 No way.
01:42:09.000 Rivian's good looking.
01:42:10.000 Ew.
01:42:11.000 Sick.
01:42:11.000 It's a cutie.
01:42:12.000 It's a cutie.
01:42:13.000 You like those glasses you're wearing.
01:42:14.000 Yeah.
01:42:15.000 Yeah, see what I'm saying?
01:42:16.000 That's like what the Rivian's headlights look like.
01:42:17.000 They look stupid.
01:42:18.000 Oh, that's the stadium headlight.
01:42:20.000 Oh, no, thanks.
01:42:21.000 I don't like them.
01:42:21.000 They look good for you.
01:42:22.000 But if I wore them, people would be like, Joe's trying too hard.
01:42:24.000 How about the Alpha Wolf?
01:42:26.000 What's that?
01:42:27.000 That's a sick electric truck.
01:42:28.000 You're gonna like that way better than Cybertruck.
01:42:30.000 Cybertruck is not a useful vehicle.
01:42:32.000 Not useful?
01:42:33.000 I don't think so.
01:42:34.000 Everyone's complaining about the bed.
01:42:36.000 They're saying the bed's not designed in a way that's actually useful.
01:42:38.000 Who's carrying shit in that bed?
01:42:40.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:42:41.000 But truck people are like, what the fuck is this for?
01:42:45.000 Check out the Alpha Wolf.
01:42:48.000 You're gonna love this thing.
01:42:48.000 What is this thing?
01:42:49.000 Who makes this?
01:42:50.000 It's Alpha.
01:42:51.000 A company called Alpha?
01:42:52.000 Yeah.
01:42:52.000 So this is electric?
01:42:53.000 Yeah.
01:42:54.000 What?
01:42:54.000 It's a monster.
01:42:55.000 It's like an off-roading.
01:42:56.000 So it's an electric pickup truck?
01:42:56.000 Yeah.
01:42:57.000 Whoa!
01:42:58.000 And they just came out with, I think it's like a, I don't know, it's got like a, look at that thing.
01:43:03.000 Dude, that thing looks incredible.
01:43:05.000 Look at that smooth piece across the front.
01:43:07.000 That thing looks incredible.
01:43:09.000 That to me is like, when I saw that, I was like, that's a fucking truck.
01:43:12.000 It's so exciting how many people are making.
01:43:14.000 No, what's the range on this fucker?
01:43:15.000 I don't know.
01:43:16.000 Two-door truck, so it's a two-seater.
01:43:18.000 I'm going to say it's probably going to be like 200 or something like that.
01:43:20.000 So it's a two-seater.
01:43:21.000 It's like an old 275. That's with American.
01:43:25.000 That's not so bad.
01:43:27.000 I mean, for an adventure truck, if you want to go on an off-roading experience, that's fine.
01:43:30.000 No, it's not good.
01:43:31.000 Really?
01:43:31.000 Because if you want to go somewhere, where are you going to go?
01:43:35.000 Well, but, you know, I mean, the thing is, batteries are always going to improve.
01:43:38.000 But the fact that they're putting this out, I mean, look at that blue.
01:43:42.000 Don't scroll so fast.
01:43:43.000 That's so good.
01:43:44.000 What's wrong with you when you're scrolling, man?
01:43:46.000 You're scrolling so fast, bro.
01:43:46.000 You're such a fast scroller.
01:43:49.000 Yeah, it looks sick.
01:43:51.000 It looks very cool.
01:43:52.000 It's just like a good-looking truck, and I like...
01:43:55.000 They're coming out with one, and then who's the other one that has that?
01:43:59.000 It's like...
01:44:00.000 275 is not much range, though.
01:44:03.000 I mean, it's as much range as my Taycan gets.
01:44:06.000 It's kind of like a median of performance vehicles.
01:44:09.000 That's about as much as you're going to get right now with the battery tech that exists.
01:44:13.000 But the Lucid, doesn't the Lucid, isn't it supposed to be more?
01:44:16.000 Lucid's 500 plus on some models.
01:44:21.000 Is it on the Sapphire?
01:44:24.000 Sapphire is going to be less.
01:44:25.000 Performance.
01:44:26.000 Tires.
01:44:26.000 Yeah, tires and the amount of energy.
01:44:28.000 It's got three motors.
01:44:29.000 What is the Sapphire's range?
01:44:32.000 It's 300 plus.
01:44:33.000 We might have skipped past.
01:44:35.000 Oh my god, look at that.
01:44:36.000 We have something called the Nightwolf and the Superwolf.
01:44:38.000 Whoa!
01:44:39.000 Yeah, there's a new model to just that.
01:44:41.000 Superwolf?
01:44:41.000 What's the Superwolf?
01:44:42.000 That's their new shit.
01:44:43.000 There you go.
01:44:44.000 Check that out.
01:44:45.000 Oh, man!
01:44:46.000 So it really is an adventure vehicle.
01:44:49.000 Yeah.
01:44:50.000 Solar panels.
01:44:51.000 Yeah.
01:44:51.000 Which probably doesn't do much.
01:44:53.000 You know, it'd help with like systems.
01:44:55.000 Yeah.
01:44:56.000 You could like keep running camping shit and stuff like that.
01:44:58.000 Oh, look at that.
01:44:59.000 Doorless.
01:45:00.000 Less weight.
01:45:01.000 So this was a four-door version of it.
01:45:04.000 Yeah.
01:45:04.000 So the Super Wolf is a four-door.
01:45:05.000 Yeah.
01:45:06.000 Oh.
01:45:07.000 It's like, it's sick.
01:45:09.000 There's also a plus.
01:45:10.000 I might have more better.
01:45:11.000 They're one to watch for.
01:45:13.000 Wolf Plus.
01:45:13.000 Ooh.
01:45:14.000 Also a four-door.
01:45:15.000 That looks sick.
01:45:16.000 It's got suicide doors in the back.
01:45:18.000 Ooh, look, a tent connects to it.
01:45:21.000 That is so cool.
01:45:22.000 Plus, like, with the solar, you just run all your tent stuff, you know, whatever.
01:45:26.000 Yeah.
01:45:27.000 While you're away.
01:45:28.000 I really...
01:45:29.000 250, 275, same range.
01:45:32.000 Yeah.
01:45:33.000 5.9 seconds, 0 to 60, blah.
01:45:36.000 It's faster than the other one.
01:45:37.000 Yeah, it's slow as shit, though.
01:45:39.000 Yeah, but, you know, it's not everything.
01:45:42.000 It can't be perfect everywhere.
01:45:43.000 Oh, stop.
01:45:43.000 What are you, a salesperson?
01:45:44.000 It's a good-looking.
01:45:45.000 It's a good-looking.
01:45:46.000 I like it.
01:45:46.000 It's a good-looking.
01:45:47.000 This one has a little bit more range.
01:45:49.000 300?
01:45:49.000 300 plus.
01:45:50.000 Mm-hmm.
01:45:51.000 Nice.
01:45:52.000 And there's that other small electric truck.
01:45:54.000 They did look great.
01:45:55.000 I like the side flares.
01:45:56.000 I mean, it's so cool.
01:45:57.000 It's just a great look.
01:46:00.000 Yeah, it looks great.
01:46:01.000 I mean, you get more range on that.
01:46:03.000 I mean, over time, there'll be new battery chemistry.
01:46:05.000 I mean, look at how clean that is.
01:46:07.000 It looks like an old school.
01:46:08.000 It's got that old school, you know, 80s.
01:46:11.000 Truck look.
01:46:11.000 80s, 90s.
01:46:12.000 Yeah, because I like trucks that look like trucks.
01:46:14.000 Yeah.
01:46:14.000 That's sick.
01:46:15.000 It does look like the truck Michael J. Fox wanted in.
01:46:17.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
01:46:19.000 If they ever redid, because you're gonna need to, redo Back to the Future, that's the truck that's gonna show up.
01:46:24.000 Now show me the Cybertruck.
01:46:26.000 KC Daylighters.
01:46:28.000 I still prefer the Cybertruck.
01:46:29.000 When I saw the Cybertruck in person, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen.
01:46:33.000 I mean, when it came out, I was like, oh, that's a cool, that's a bold design, but then it didn't come out for a long, long, long time.
01:46:38.000 Well, it took a long time.
01:46:39.000 This looks like a 70s sci-fi truck.
01:46:43.000 It's dope.
01:46:44.000 I love it.
01:46:45.000 Small.
01:46:46.000 I saw it in real life and I was like, this is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen.
01:46:51.000 I think it's pretty dope.
01:46:53.000 Fisker's coming out with good shit too, but I'm trying to...
01:46:55.000 There was another...
01:46:57.000 Oh, here it is.
01:46:57.000 This guy.
01:46:59.000 TeeLo.
01:47:00.000 I don't think you're going to like it, but it's definitely different looking, but it's a small truck, but it's got the same bed length as an average truck, but it's tiny.
01:47:08.000 It's this little T-L-O thing.
01:47:10.000 T-E-L-O. That looks disgusting.
01:47:12.000 Look at that.
01:47:13.000 Look at that.
01:47:15.000 Now, that's what I would rock.
01:47:17.000 It is tiny, man.
01:47:18.000 Wow.
01:47:18.000 And look at that approach angle.
01:47:20.000 Nothing.
01:47:20.000 Nothing.
01:47:22.000 Yeah.
01:47:23.000 You know, you'd have to see how it handles and all that stuff.
01:47:26.000 I saw something yesterday that wasn't a truck, but it was like a recreated 67 Mustang electric car.
01:47:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:47:32.000 They're doing those now.
01:47:33.000 The Electro Restoma things, those are from scratch, too.
01:47:36.000 They're not using donor cars.
01:47:37.000 That's from scratch.
01:47:38.000 Oh, really?
01:47:38.000 Yeah.
01:47:39.000 I think it's the one that you're talking about, the Mustang.
01:47:41.000 So they're recreating?
01:47:42.000 It looks like a Mustang, but it isn't a Mustang.
01:47:45.000 I don't know if that's what you're talking about.
01:47:47.000 Yeah, I didn't say Mustang.
01:47:48.000 I just said 67. Yeah.
01:47:49.000 Have you seen that company?
01:47:50.000 What's it called?
01:47:51.000 Everati?
01:47:52.000 Yes.
01:47:52.000 Yeah, they're doing that with like Porsche 964s.
01:47:55.000 Oh my god.
01:47:56.000 Taking those and they're making them electric.
01:47:57.000 They say that they're one for one.
01:47:59.000 At least like steering handling and all that stuff feels pretty one for one.
01:48:03.000 Well, it must be amazing just because of the batteries.
01:48:05.000 The low center of gravity.
01:48:07.000 Check that out.
01:48:07.000 Looks like a Mach 1 kind of.
01:48:08.000 Wow.
01:48:09.000 Technology company that creates brand new electric cars that look like Mustangs.
01:48:13.000 Yeah.
01:48:14.000 What do they call it?
01:48:15.000 The cars, or the company, Charge.
01:48:18.000 But they don't call it a Mustang?
01:48:20.000 No, I don't think they legally can.
01:48:21.000 Interesting.
01:48:22.000 But it's clearly, they ripped off the Mustang.
01:48:24.000 They completely did.
01:48:25.000 Wow.
01:48:26.000 Yeah, it's a from scratch, bespoke.
01:48:30.000 But I mean, look at that shit.
01:48:31.000 Interesting.
01:48:31.000 I mean, I love that electrics are starting to look like engines now.
01:48:34.000 Yeah, but I have to be honest.
01:48:36.000 If I want a 67 Mustang, I want it to go boom.
01:48:39.000 Of course.
01:48:41.000 Of course.
01:48:42.000 Yeah, I don't want a silent 67 Mustang.
01:48:44.000 That just feels goofy.
01:48:46.000 How about that McMurtry Spearling?
01:48:48.000 Remember that?
01:48:48.000 They're making a road car.
01:48:49.000 Does it have sound?
01:48:50.000 Can you hear what this thing sounds like?
01:48:52.000 It looks pretty dope.
01:48:54.000 It looks pretty dope.
01:48:56.000 But a 67 Mustang looks dope.
01:48:58.000 Of course.
01:48:58.000 I get you.
01:48:59.000 Yeah, well, you know, my thing is, like, if you can figure out a way to, like, you just take the engine out, right, transmission, all that stuff, and you just, like, save it.
01:49:05.000 Right?
01:49:06.000 So you can swap it in and out as you want.
01:49:08.000 Oh God, you can't.
01:49:09.000 I mean, you can't, but I'm just saying, if you figured out a way to do it, maybe.
01:49:13.000 I don't know.
01:49:14.000 It doesn't matter.
01:49:15.000 But have you seen the McMurtry Spearling?
01:49:17.000 That thing that got the Goodwood record?
01:49:19.000 It's a vacuum car.
01:49:20.000 It's a fan car.
01:49:22.000 I was there at Goodwood when it did its legendary run.
01:49:25.000 I think it's got the fastest record going up Goodwood.
01:49:29.000 It sucks itself to the ground.
01:49:30.000 It can make up, I think, 10 tons of downforce.
01:49:34.000 It looks like a tiny Batmobile.
01:49:38.000 And it looks kind of funny because it's so fast.
01:49:40.000 There it is.
01:49:40.000 That's the Goodwood.
01:49:41.000 I was right there.
01:49:42.000 I was right there in that stand, right there.
01:49:43.000 So what is a vacuum car?
01:49:45.000 How exactly does that work?
01:49:47.000 Whoa, look at that thing.
01:49:48.000 It's so fast.
01:49:49.000 It does zero to 60 in like 1.6 seconds or something like that.
01:49:54.000 And it's just that thing.
01:49:57.000 Look at this thing.
01:50:02.000 Oh my god.
01:50:05.000 That looks fucking amazing.
01:50:07.000 It broke every record.
01:50:09.000 It's so good looking too.
01:50:11.000 I mean, it destroyed that run.
01:50:14.000 I mean, it was coming so fast down the tunnel because Porsche's stand is like facing the launch tunnel.
01:50:19.000 We were there and as it came up, it was coming up so fast people were like, it's not going to make that turn.
01:50:23.000 Go to the website for that, Jamie.
01:50:26.000 They have a passenger car, or they have a road car coming out, using the same fan.
01:50:31.000 So this is just for the track?
01:50:32.000 This is a track monster.
01:50:34.000 And how does that thing cost?
01:50:36.000 Not too bad.
01:50:37.000 It's like one point something million.
01:50:40.000 I mean, for a car that's that fast, I mean, come on.
01:50:43.000 Oh my god.
01:50:43.000 A million a piece.
01:50:44.000 There you go.
01:50:45.000 A million dollars.
01:50:46.000 Wow.
01:50:47.000 And that...
01:50:48.000 It's amazing.
01:50:49.000 I got to see it up close.
01:50:51.000 Stop.
01:50:52.000 Scroll.
01:50:53.000 How do you say it?
01:50:55.000 Sperling?
01:50:56.000 Sperling.
01:50:57.000 Sperling.
01:50:57.000 It's an Irish company.
01:50:58.000 Emerged last year with a record-breaking run at Goodwill Hill Climb.
01:51:01.000 It uses two rear-mounted fans to produce absurd amounts of downforce.
01:51:06.000 The car is tiny, shorter than a Chevrolet Spark, and weighs less than 2,205 pounds.
01:51:12.000 Yet the Sperling produces 999 horsepower.
01:51:17.000 Holy fuck.
01:51:18.000 Yeah.
01:51:19.000 You talk about like, this is just an Irish dude that made a lot of money.
01:51:22.000 I forget, he's a billionaire.
01:51:23.000 He made a lot of millions.
01:51:24.000 And he was just like, I want to make this car.
01:51:27.000 And he just did it.
01:51:28.000 Oh my God.
01:51:29.000 It's so good.
01:51:30.000 What does that do on the Nurburgring?
01:51:32.000 I mean, I wonder if they've done it yet.
01:51:34.000 How do they not?
01:51:35.000 You have to.
01:51:36.000 Look how good that looks!
01:51:38.000 Oh my God.
01:51:39.000 Oh my God, that looks so good.
01:51:40.000 Isn't it good?
01:51:40.000 That's the road car.
01:51:42.000 That's gorgeous.
01:51:43.000 That's what they're, yeah.
01:51:44.000 When is that going to come out?
01:51:45.000 I don't know.
01:51:45.000 I'm going to say like in the next two years.
01:51:47.000 You can achieve three Gs.
01:51:49.000 Three Gs?
01:51:49.000 Well, you know, my Gunther Works can do three Gs.
01:51:52.000 Really?
01:51:53.000 Yeah.
01:51:53.000 I mean, that shit's, that's a nasty car.
01:51:57.000 I want to say that someday.
01:51:58.000 That's a full carbon fiber air-cooled 1995 Porsche.
01:52:02.000 I want to see it.
01:52:04.000 It's so fun.
01:52:05.000 It's the rowdiest car.
01:52:06.000 It's so rowdy.
01:52:07.000 I'm going to come out just to see that car.
01:52:10.000 It's so analog.
01:52:12.000 I would have brought it today, but it's raining.
01:52:13.000 It can replenish the battery in 20 minutes.
01:52:18.000 Not too bad.
01:52:18.000 What?
01:52:19.000 It doesn't say how long it goes, though.
01:52:21.000 I can't imagine.
01:52:25.000 What's the battery pack?
01:52:26.000 It's a 60 kilowatt, and plus the weight.
01:52:28.000 I bet you anything you could get, I mean, with the road car, you're probably going to get like 200 over.
01:52:34.000 Yeah.
01:52:35.000 I think, because it's so light.
01:52:36.000 That's like the lightest sports car, you know.
01:52:40.000 Looks incredible.
01:52:41.000 Yeah, McMurtry Spearling.
01:52:43.000 I was fascinated with it, and I didn't even know it was going to be at Goodwood, and when it came out, I was like, Am I watching a cartoon?
01:52:50.000 Everyone was laughing because it looks like a cartoon when it's moving.
01:52:54.000 Because you're like, it's coming at you and it just goes like a Tron car.
01:52:58.000 Like a fucking Tron car.
01:52:59.000 That kind of downforce, the handling is fucking incredible.
01:53:03.000 You're not going anywhere.
01:53:04.000 And it's got redundant systems.
01:53:06.000 Some people were like, what if the fans went out?
01:53:08.000 But the two independent fan systems and there's these redundant...
01:53:13.000 So you get one and it still produces enough downforce.
01:53:15.000 It wouldn't let you go on a corner.
01:53:17.000 How do the fans work?
01:53:19.000 How does that work?
01:53:20.000 It's basically just like it's a vacuum cleaner.
01:53:22.000 It just creates a vacuum under the car.
01:53:24.000 So are the fans exposed in the rear?
01:53:27.000 No.
01:53:27.000 Like where are the fans?
01:53:28.000 They're internal into the body and then there's these ducts out the back where it channels.
01:53:33.000 Wow.
01:53:34.000 And it just sucks you into the ground.
01:53:35.000 It just sucks you into the What a fucking car, man.
01:53:39.000 Goddamn, that looks good.
01:53:41.000 I saw a car reviewer.
01:53:42.000 He's like the tall dude, that British guy that does all the car reviews.
01:53:45.000 I forget his name.
01:53:46.000 But he got to do a zero to 60 run, just a straight line.
01:53:50.000 He couldn't talk.
01:53:52.000 And he wasn't joking.
01:53:54.000 He couldn't talk after the run.
01:53:55.000 He was crying, and he couldn't talk.
01:54:00.000 And he was like, I need a moment.
01:54:04.000 Wow.
01:54:05.000 Like that moment in Ford versus Ferrari, you know, where the guy's like, I never knew.
01:54:09.000 Where he takes the exec for that crazy run, and then he's like, he's crying, and he's like, I never knew.
01:54:14.000 It's like, I know that feeling, because that's a real thing that happens, and people might think it's stupid.
01:54:19.000 It's a car, but it's like, Well, that GT40 is even smaller than my Ford GT, the original GT40. It's a very small car.
01:54:29.000 It's very small.
01:54:29.000 And now people are taking those and they're adding insane thousand horsepower engines to them and they're doing these retro, like, resto mods on the Ford GT40. Some of them are incredible.
01:54:43.000 Because it's such an analog car.
01:54:46.000 It's a real race car.
01:54:48.000 It's got a plexiglass side window.
01:54:49.000 It doesn't even roll down.
01:54:50.000 I love that shit.
01:54:52.000 I love it.
01:54:53.000 I love life.
01:54:54.000 I love engineering.
01:54:57.000 That's totally my thing.
01:54:59.000 My thing is design, engineering.
01:55:02.000 I went to Berlin and the first thing I noticed was the lighting.
01:55:06.000 All the street lights are beautiful amber.
01:55:09.000 All the interior lighting in most places is like...
01:55:12.000 You know how you walk into a convenience store here or whatever and it's just like fluorescent attack?
01:55:17.000 It doesn't really exist.
01:55:19.000 I mean, there are places, but in general it doesn't.
01:55:21.000 I was like, whoa!
01:55:22.000 They actually care about this shit.
01:55:24.000 People are like, we don't like the harsh lights are too bright and it's not good for concentration.
01:55:30.000 Whatever.
01:55:31.000 I love design.
01:55:32.000 I like anything that's designed.
01:55:33.000 I could look at an ashtray.
01:55:35.000 I could look at a knife.
01:55:36.000 I love knives.
01:55:37.000 Whatever.
01:55:37.000 I just...
01:55:39.000 Whatever.
01:55:40.000 Firearm.
01:55:41.000 It's like any engineering that people were passionate about and they're like, this is what we wanted to make and we made it.
01:55:47.000 I'm like, good for you, man.
01:55:49.000 Yeah, I'm into that, too.
01:55:50.000 I just love design and innovation.
01:55:53.000 I just love seeing the human mind come up with something like that spiraling.
01:55:58.000 I mean, come on.
01:56:00.000 I mean, imagine the amount of passion and innovation.
01:56:03.000 Drive and dedication you have to have to develop something like that and actually produce it and make it.
01:56:08.000 And then when you see the preposterous way this thing fucking maneuvers and handles.
01:56:12.000 It's so cool.
01:56:13.000 I know, I know.
01:56:14.000 And the Gordon Murray cars that just gave out.
01:56:16.000 What's that?
01:56:17.000 The Gordon Murray T50 and the T30. What's that?
01:56:22.000 He's the guy who designed the F1, the McLaren.
01:56:25.000 That, you know, the $20 million now evaluated $20 million supercar.
01:56:31.000 Yeah, he designed that, a legendary designer, and then he made two cars.
01:56:37.000 One is a fan car.
01:56:38.000 Well, no, it's not a fan car.
01:56:39.000 It uses a fan to depressurize the zone behind the car.
01:56:44.000 Oh, there we go.
01:56:45.000 Whoa!
01:56:46.000 T-50.
01:56:46.000 I think it's the T-50.
01:56:48.000 What the fuck is that?
01:56:50.000 Yeah, so center driving position and two passenger seats on either side.
01:56:55.000 Look how low it is.
01:56:56.000 Just like the F1. Wow, it looks a lot like a McLaren.
01:57:00.000 Yeah, that was his baby.
01:57:02.000 And how does that thing handle?
01:57:04.000 I mean, there haven't been any reviews on it yet, but I mean, look at that stick shift.
01:57:08.000 And they design the cockpit around you, so you come in for a fitting, essentially.
01:57:13.000 But you get to see all the mechanics exposed for the shifter on the interior of the car.
01:57:19.000 So shifter, does it have gears?
01:57:21.000 Yeah.
01:57:22.000 So it's a full gas car.
01:57:24.000 So it's a full gas car.
01:57:25.000 Yeah.
01:57:25.000 The other one that they came out with is more of a 1960s homage.
01:57:30.000 Is this a manual transmission?
01:57:32.000 Does it have a clutch?
01:57:33.000 Yeah.
01:57:34.000 Clutch.
01:57:34.000 Manual transmission.
01:57:35.000 Really?
01:57:35.000 Yeah.
01:57:36.000 So the T33, that one.
01:57:38.000 Check that one out.
01:57:40.000 I love this car.
01:57:43.000 That's very interesting.
01:57:44.000 Yeah, this is more of like a kind of more manageable.
01:57:47.000 But Gordon Murray, he's just a legend.
01:57:50.000 The guy is insanely talented.
01:57:54.000 But he just made the cars that he wanted to make.
01:57:57.000 And there was like nothing.
01:57:59.000 Every wire, every bolt, that guy is...
01:58:03.000 I've watched so many interviews.
01:58:05.000 And everything is approved by him.
01:58:08.000 Oh, that's a gorgeous car.
01:58:09.000 They're really beautiful automobiles.
01:58:11.000 And he doesn't release performance numbers because he doesn't believe in that.
01:58:15.000 He believes in the spirit of the car, like the way it feels.
01:58:18.000 And of course it's going to be lightweight and all that stuff.
01:58:21.000 Scroll back down, please.
01:58:22.000 And he doesn't do traction control either, I don't think.
01:58:24.000 It says, in every major engineering area, the T33 is mechanically superior to modern-day supercars.
01:58:30.000 Go to the interior.
01:58:32.000 See what that looks like?
01:58:33.000 Wow.
01:58:36.000 So is this like a bespoke thing?
01:58:38.000 They only make a certain number per year?
01:58:40.000 Yeah, all that stuff.
01:58:41.000 Stupid, expensive.
01:58:42.000 And you go into the design studio, like you can go in there and you just basically go through all the swatches and color, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:58:50.000 Wow.
01:58:50.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, there's some beautiful automobiles out there and I can't afford them.
01:58:56.000 Click on that video so I can see that video.
01:58:59.000 Does it show it driving?
01:59:01.000 Yeah.
01:59:02.000 I don't really see them.
01:59:04.000 Yeah, there should be a sound, but that's the weird thing about his company.
01:59:08.000 They don't really show a lot of footage of the car in action, which is kind of curious.
01:59:14.000 Has this been actually released already?
01:59:16.000 Can you buy one of these?
01:59:17.000 You can order them.
01:59:18.000 T-50s exist, I think?
01:59:20.000 Or I think if that's the name of the T-50, I figure.
01:59:22.000 Why is this video a map?
01:59:24.000 It's stupid.
01:59:24.000 That's why I wanted to click on it because I knew it wasn't.
01:59:26.000 It's just a sales pitch.
01:59:27.000 It's a sales pitch.
01:59:28.000 Okay, there's a track.
01:59:29.000 Okay, now show the car.
01:59:30.000 That's it?
01:59:32.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:59:33.000 That's the one thing I don't like about it.
01:59:36.000 That's the guy that drove the Spearling that was crying.
01:59:40.000 That dude.
01:59:41.000 Super tall guy.
01:59:43.000 Gordon Murray's tall, too.
01:59:45.000 It was kind of fun to see them talking together.
01:59:47.000 Interesting.
01:59:47.000 But yeah, I mean, so that fan in the back, so it depressurizes the zone behind the car so that you don't need a spoiler for downforce.
01:59:57.000 Well, there are two mini spoilers on either side, but it basically, as soon as that pressure starts to build up, So that's with the fan on,
02:00:18.000 which makes it a lot louder.
02:00:20.000 You can disengage the fan when you're driving around town.
02:00:22.000 Why would you?
02:00:23.000 Well, I mean, you know, small towns and stuff like that.
02:00:26.000 Yeah.
02:00:27.000 Tell them to deal with it.
02:00:28.000 You're in town.
02:00:29.000 Oh yeah, this is good.
02:00:30.000 Oh, look at the back seat.
02:00:32.000 Isn't that great?
02:00:32.000 So the people sit behind you.
02:00:33.000 Yeah, just like the F1. Wow.
02:00:35.000 The F1 was center with two passengers on either side, which I kind of like that.
02:00:40.000 I mean, it's like you're going to take two friends on a ride, you know?
02:00:43.000 It's kind of fun.
02:00:44.000 And then you get that center drive position, which I've never experienced before, but I would love to get a center driving position.
02:00:50.000 Yeah.
02:00:51.000 Wow.
02:00:51.000 That's crazy.
02:00:52.000 That's a road car.
02:00:54.000 Man, isn't it great?
02:00:55.000 Yeah.
02:00:55.000 I know, it's like, you know, there's still like, there's some cool stuff going on.
02:00:58.000 But, you know, the good thing is like, there's cars at every price point and they're all like, so many great ones, you know?
02:01:03.000 I love them.
02:01:04.000 Yeah.
02:01:05.000 It's a good time for automobiles.
02:01:06.000 But it's a weird thing because they keep making them faster every year.
02:01:10.000 I know.
02:01:11.000 It's like, where does this go?
02:01:12.000 I know.
02:01:12.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:01:12.000 There's a biological limit to speed and G-forces.
02:01:17.000 At a certain point, all electric cars are going to basically be the same, zero to 60. Handling will be different, but the zero to 60 and stopping, that's a pretty predictable science.
02:01:29.000 Yeah.
02:01:29.000 I don't know where we're going to go.
02:01:31.000 We can't get faster than blacking out.
02:01:34.000 You know what I mean?
02:01:35.000 Right.
02:01:35.000 G-force.
02:01:36.000 It's like you don't want to be like...
02:01:37.000 Right.
02:01:38.000 I wonder if that's possible.
02:01:40.000 I think so.
02:01:41.000 That someone could black out from a car.
02:01:43.000 I mean, you could black out...
02:01:45.000 Yeah, you could black out from a corner...
02:01:48.000 I mean, because blacking out has just reduced blood to the brain.
02:01:51.000 So, I don't know.
02:01:52.000 I guess on a forward acceleration, you should be able to black out.
02:01:55.000 I think you could black out.
02:01:56.000 Have you ever been in a fighter jet?
02:01:58.000 No.
02:01:59.000 Never been in a...
02:01:59.000 No.
02:02:00.000 I flew with the Blue Angels once.
02:02:01.000 What?
02:02:02.000 Yeah, I blacked out.
02:02:03.000 Oh, of course you did.
02:02:04.000 I went seven and a half Gs and didn't black out.
02:02:06.000 And then we did another corner and I didn't do the hooking thing.
02:02:11.000 And I did one corner where I didn't do it right.
02:02:14.000 I just didn't anticipate it was going to be as much as...
02:02:19.000 And I threw up.
02:02:20.000 Whoa!
02:02:21.000 No!
02:02:24.000 Yeah.
02:02:25.000 It's exciting, though.
02:02:26.000 I can't imagine.
02:02:27.000 Were you wearing the liquid-filled suits?
02:02:29.000 No.
02:02:29.000 Oh, he didn't have them.
02:02:30.000 No, the Blue Angels don't wear suits.
02:02:32.000 They don't?
02:02:32.000 No.
02:02:32.000 Oh, that's right.
02:02:33.000 They're like old school.
02:02:34.000 Old school.
02:02:34.000 So you have to be kind of jacked, and you can't be tall, because the tall guys, it's too much blood against the brain.
02:02:41.000 Yes!
02:02:42.000 Too much volume.
02:02:43.000 These guys are like stout and they have to be stout in order to pilot that thing because you have to have like muscles.
02:02:48.000 Right.
02:02:49.000 You have to be able to force the blood into your head.
02:02:54.000 You actually see your consciousness closing in like an elevator door.
02:02:58.000 You see it.
02:02:59.000 Like they do in video games when you like to start to black out.
02:03:03.000 This is crazy when they get right next to each other and they fly.
02:03:06.000 That's fucking bonkers.
02:03:09.000 Guys, you're just feet away from each other.
02:03:11.000 The Blue Angels, man, they used to come to my town for air shows, because I lived next to an Air Force base, and I couldn't tell you how excited I was when they would all stand outside of their planes, just in front of each plane,
02:03:26.000 and they all had their names on it.
02:03:28.000 But there is nothing like an air show crash to fucking terrify you.
02:03:36.000 Mike, are you kidding?
02:03:37.000 There's a ton of those you can see too.
02:03:39.000 Yeah.
02:03:39.000 Have the Blue Angels, they have a pretty low crash record.
02:03:42.000 I don't know.
02:03:43.000 I don't know who crashes, but I've seen air show crashes where they fuck up.
02:03:47.000 And those are horrific.
02:03:50.000 Oh, man.
02:03:51.000 I mean, yeah.
02:03:52.000 I don't want to go to an air show.
02:03:53.000 No, no, no, no.
02:03:54.000 I don't need to go to an air show.
02:03:56.000 Have you seen the dirty roll?
02:03:58.000 Have you ever seen that?
02:03:58.000 What's that?
02:03:59.000 The two planes come together with their landing gear out facing each other.
02:04:04.000 Their landing gear are almost kind of like offset, and then they do a full rotation.
02:04:11.000 Oh, God.
02:04:12.000 It's the most insane.
02:04:13.000 I saw it a few times.
02:04:14.000 They're like, and they're coming around here for a dirty roll.
02:04:16.000 Oh, fuck that.
02:04:18.000 So, yeah, so check this.
02:04:20.000 Hopefully you'll get to see it.
02:04:21.000 So that's a dirty, a single, but they did a double dirty roll.
02:04:24.000 Two planes facing each other, landing gear facing each other.
02:04:27.000 I would want to be far away with a spotting scope.
02:04:30.000 Oh, look at that.
02:04:31.000 Oh, no, I want to be close enough where one of those fucking things touches the other one, flies into the crowd.
02:04:36.000 Oh, my God.
02:04:37.000 It's, it's...
02:04:39.000 Oh, I see.
02:04:40.000 Oh, he pulled out safely.
02:04:42.000 Yeah, there was, like, a complication with it.
02:04:43.000 I mean, the new planes that are coming out, I mean, I don't know.
02:04:46.000 The fucking neck...
02:04:47.000 Was it air dominance next to air dominance vehicle or whatever?
02:04:51.000 What do you think about all this UAP UFO stuff?
02:04:55.000 Oh shit.
02:04:57.000 You know, I don't know.
02:04:59.000 It's something.
02:04:59.000 It's something.
02:05:00.000 I don't know what it is.
02:05:01.000 Some of it is like...
02:05:03.000 Some people theorize it's like plasma technologies, but they're getting physical signatures on it.
02:05:08.000 You're getting all the radar return signatures, and you're getting infrared.
02:05:13.000 I don't fucking know, man.
02:05:15.000 I mean, it really blows me away.
02:05:18.000 I keep...
02:05:19.000 Because I can't say for sure.
02:05:20.000 I believe that other life forms exist.
02:05:24.000 I also believe...
02:05:26.000 I just don't know if it's like, it doesn't make any sense why they're like, let's just hang out, never show ourselves and just do like really cool, tricky stuff and have people get a bunch of blurry images of it that we can never fricking see.
02:05:37.000 That's the weird thing.
02:05:38.000 But I don't know what it is, man.
02:05:41.000 I mean, it's either natural phenomenon or it's something that's been here a long time or they're probes that are triggered by a certain, I don't know, technological escalation in human society.
02:05:56.000 Or they're somehow ours, but that doesn't make any sense either.
02:06:01.000 I don't know, man.
02:06:02.000 I mean, I've seen them.
02:06:03.000 I've seen UFOs.
02:06:05.000 You have?
02:06:05.000 Yeah, I might have mentioned it on the show before, but I've seen the classic three glowing spheres in the distance kind of moving along and a searchlight turning on or a spotlight turning on and turning off and then gliding with no noise in a canyon.
02:06:18.000 I've seen that.
02:06:20.000 And that was awe-inspiring.
02:06:21.000 But some of the footage that you see, you're like, what is that?
02:06:26.000 It just went into the ocean.
02:06:27.000 It just went into the ocean.
02:06:29.000 It's still traveling at the same rate that it was traveling in the air.
02:06:32.000 And they're recording it.
02:06:34.000 So it's either a huge hoax, which doesn't make any sense because people talk.
02:06:40.000 Or they're...
02:06:41.000 I don't know, man.
02:06:42.000 Or it's, like, interdimensional shit.
02:06:46.000 It's...
02:06:46.000 Maybe if we are in a simulation, there are, like, glitches in the simulation.
02:06:51.000 You know, like, there's, like, other things bleeding through.
02:06:53.000 And, like, we're seeing things that don't have any...
02:06:56.000 That don't adhere to the laws of physics because they aren't really in our physical realm in a way.
02:07:03.000 I don't really know.
02:07:04.000 Because I just...
02:07:06.000 It really baffles me.
02:07:08.000 And then also when the government starts releasing stuff and then you got a guy going around like, well, you know, I've been cleared by the CIA or whatever to be able to talk about this and all this stuff.
02:07:18.000 You've been cleared to talk about stuff that you're supposed to not be talking about?
02:07:23.000 That's weird.
02:07:24.000 And then I'm like, is it propaganda?
02:07:26.000 Is it like, I don't know, man.
02:07:28.000 It's a tough one.
02:07:29.000 Because I grew up, I love UFOs.
02:07:31.000 I grew up Project Blue Book, watched the series.
02:07:34.000 Loved aliens.
02:07:35.000 Used to sit in my backyard looking up at the stars, hoping that I would see an alien one day.
02:07:39.000 And then I did see, not aliens, but I saw UIPs or UFOs.
02:07:43.000 Where were you when you saw that?
02:07:44.000 I was in Montana.
02:07:45.000 I was probably 17. We were camping at night, and then we decided to climb a butte in the middle of the night, so we were crossing a big cattle field.
02:07:56.000 And then I was walking and two friends were ahead of me.
02:07:59.000 And I kind of just looked to my right, stopped, looked to my right, and I just saw these in the distance.
02:08:04.000 I don't know how far it would be, but they looked about that big from my perspective.
02:08:11.000 Down a ways and there were three of them.
02:08:13.000 It wasn't one object because they would change distance from each other and change elevation a little bit.
02:08:18.000 Really low.
02:08:19.000 And then at some point sometimes it would just stop and you'd see a little beam turn on, turn off, and then it would start to move again.
02:08:27.000 It was really, really weird.
02:08:29.000 I had two friends I kept looking at.
02:08:31.000 I was like, come here.
02:08:32.000 Because I didn't want to not look and then look back and then they weren't there type of movie shit.
02:08:37.000 But my friends came back and they looked down and they described...
02:08:41.000 I didn't even tell them what I was looking at.
02:08:42.000 I said, tell me what you see.
02:08:43.000 They described what I was seeing.
02:08:45.000 I don't know what it was.
02:08:46.000 But I've heard other stories about three lights.
02:08:50.000 Same kind of shit.
02:08:52.000 When I'm watching UFO, whatever documentary stuff, it gives me chills because I'm like...
02:08:56.000 I've seen that.
02:08:57.000 Whatever that is, I've seen that.
02:08:59.000 So, I don't know.
02:09:01.000 I don't know, man.
02:09:02.000 It's like I go, my mind goes all over the place, but there's no definitive.
02:09:07.000 No, because no one's, you know, it's like unless they land and you're like, oh, there it is, or we see not the Mexico City alien.
02:09:17.000 Obviously a joke.
02:09:19.000 Not a joke, but whatever it was.
02:09:21.000 A hoax.
02:09:21.000 A hoax.
02:09:22.000 Unless we get something where it's like, oh shit, what is that?
02:09:25.000 What is this metal?
02:09:26.000 Or the scientists saying that they found a piece of an alien ship at the bottom of the ocean because it's material they can't identify.
02:09:34.000 I don't know.
02:09:35.000 It's weird.
02:09:36.000 I'm excited about it.
02:09:37.000 I think it's kind of interesting.
02:09:39.000 And I'm hopeful, but it's almost like the more information that gets released, the more I'm like, I don't know what to think.
02:09:45.000 I'm exactly where you are.
02:09:47.000 But I think more than likely that a lot of what we're seeing, a lot of these people are seeing, is some sort of top secret probe.
02:09:57.000 It's some sort of super sophisticated propulsion system that doesn't rely on a combustion engine.
02:10:05.000 Some completely new style of propulsion system that they've been working on.
02:10:10.000 True.
02:10:14.000 True.
02:10:33.000 These restricted areas, that's where they're seeing these things.
02:10:36.000 Like, it just makes sense that that would be where they would practice these things.
02:10:40.000 But what's weird about it is that, you know, like, there was that famous UFO crossing incident over the northern, all the states of going from, I think, Seattle or Washington all the way to Idaho, Montana, North Dakota.
02:10:52.000 They were chasing the squadron of unidentified flying objects in the 50s.
02:10:57.000 The 50s.
02:10:58.000 50s.
02:10:59.000 Yeah.
02:10:59.000 So that's the You do hear about sightings even in the 1800s, 1700s.
02:11:04.000 That's the weird thing.
02:11:06.000 That's the thing where I'm like, well, if it's true.
02:11:09.000 But in the 50s, there's shots of it.
02:11:11.000 People took photographs of these squadron of glowing...
02:11:15.000 Yeah.
02:11:15.000 Discs, and they were going so fast that jets couldn't keep up with them, so they had to scramble jets at the next base.
02:11:24.000 Our baseball team are called the Voyagers, based off of that incident.
02:11:29.000 Really?
02:11:29.000 Yeah.
02:11:30.000 I mean, in Great Falls.
02:11:32.000 I don't know.
02:11:33.000 That's the weird thing about it.
02:11:34.000 I mean, I agree with you.
02:11:35.000 I think there is some kind of propulsion system that is able to change on a dime and doesn't necessarily get affected in the way that normal.
02:11:44.000 So there's probably multiple things going on simultaneously.
02:11:46.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:11:47.000 Yeah.
02:11:47.000 I do not doubt that we've been visited.
02:11:50.000 If there is intelligent life that's capable of coming here from somewhere else, of course they would.
02:11:55.000 I mean, well...
02:11:57.000 That's the place you would go.
02:11:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:11:59.000 I mean, it seems like, in a way, I just feel like the Earth is kind of like a terrarium.
02:12:04.000 It's like, they're just like, let's do a pilot program here, throw some seeds down there, monitor it, see how it goes.
02:12:12.000 Certainly could be.
02:12:12.000 I mean, some people think the moon is a spaceship.
02:12:15.000 Well, those people might be dumb.
02:12:17.000 Well, but there is some.
02:12:19.000 Are you familiar with the Y-Files?
02:12:21.000 You know that guy?
02:12:22.000 Y-Files.
02:12:23.000 The Y-Files.
02:12:24.000 So it's a YouTube channel.
02:12:25.000 This dude, he basically just recounts stories of paranormal, whether it's occult stuff, spiritual stuff, not spiritual stuff, but just like ghost stuff.
02:12:39.000 Or aliens.
02:12:41.000 Or interdimensional travel, that type of stuff.
02:12:44.000 And then he talks, he tells the story and kind of reenacts it.
02:12:46.000 And then at the end, he kind of debunks it.
02:12:48.000 Or tries to debunk it.
02:12:50.000 But he seems to be pretty impartial.
02:12:51.000 But he was talking about how when they landed on the moon, they did...
02:12:55.000 They basically did seismic tests and there was a reverberance that would indicate that it's possibly hollow.
02:13:03.000 And it does sound like a far-fetched thing, but there is a lot of...
02:13:07.000 There's some kind of interesting things there.
02:13:10.000 Again, I'm not a firm believer in it, but if you think of it in a fantastical way, like what if that was a spaceship that just like...
02:13:19.000 They just stopped that spaceship, did some experiments on Earth or whatever, and just left the spaceship there.
02:13:23.000 I don't know.
02:13:24.000 I don't know.
02:13:25.000 I'm dumb.
02:13:26.000 Hi, guys.
02:13:26.000 How are you?
02:13:27.000 That one seems so stupid.
02:13:29.000 I know, but it's fun to look into.
02:13:31.000 It'll be cool to see what your crowd thinks.
02:13:33.000 What kind of undertaking would be involved in creating a spaceship that's, what is it, a quarter of the size of the Earth?
02:13:41.000 Something.
02:13:42.000 It might be smaller than that, maybe.
02:13:44.000 Maybe?
02:13:44.000 No, it's got to be smaller than that.
02:13:45.000 It's one-sixth-earth gravity.
02:13:47.000 Okay.
02:13:48.000 What's the size of it?
02:13:49.000 Does that tell us the size?
02:13:50.000 I don't know.
02:13:51.000 How small is it?
02:13:54.000 Y'all know how big the moon is over there?
02:13:57.000 Y'all ever...
02:13:59.000 What would you guess?
02:14:01.000 I'm guessing it's a tenth.
02:14:02.000 One-tenth?
02:14:04.000 Yeah.
02:14:04.000 That's what I'm guessing.
02:14:07.000 It's a lot smaller.
02:14:08.000 Oh, here we go.
02:14:11.000 No, you were right.
02:14:13.000 Oh, okay.
02:14:13.000 One quarter.
02:14:14.000 One quarter of the size of Earth.
02:14:15.000 Oh, okay.
02:14:16.000 80 times less than that.
02:14:17.000 Yeah, so...
02:14:18.000 It's pretty big.
02:14:18.000 Yeah, if you look up Hollow Moon, just to see.
02:14:22.000 Is it next to Hollow Earth?
02:14:23.000 No, I hope not.
02:14:25.000 I hope not.
02:14:26.000 That's, that's, we gotta, they gotta get off that.
02:14:28.000 Hollow moon.
02:14:30.000 Hmm.
02:14:30.000 Spaceship moon.
02:14:32.000 Pseudoscientific hypothesis proposes Earth moon is either wholly hollow or otherwise.
02:14:39.000 Mechanic story from August.
02:14:41.000 So this, this has got all of the details.
02:14:42.000 Hmm.
02:14:43.000 Oh.
02:14:43.000 We break down how misinterpreted science and the Apollo moon missions give rise to a bizarre belief.
02:14:48.000 Well then maybe that's, yeah, that's all some bullshit.
02:14:50.000 Maybe.
02:14:51.000 I mean, probably.
02:14:52.000 Seems like it's bullshit.
02:14:53.000 I mean, I felt that way, too.
02:14:55.000 I just thought it was interesting.
02:14:56.000 It's a Death Star.
02:14:57.000 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
02:14:58.000 I'm like, that would be hilarious if it was.
02:15:01.000 That's all I'm saying.
02:15:02.000 Like, I think it would be.
02:15:03.000 Because my thing is, like, I'm kind of like a big simulation theory guy or whatever.
02:15:08.000 Some version of a simulation that we're existing in.
02:15:11.000 There's series going off.
02:15:13.000 Oh, sorry.
02:15:14.000 Sorry, Siri.
02:15:15.000 Siri thinks you're not asking her questions.
02:15:17.000 What the hell?
02:15:17.000 Don't do that.
02:15:18.000 It's the CIA. But, yeah, it's like, you know, it's like, I'm like, well.
02:15:22.000 Scientists said the moon rings like a bell.
02:15:24.000 Right.
02:15:25.000 That's because the vibrations to the moon's seismic events, known as moonquakes, last much longer than those here on Earth.
02:15:33.000 Hmm.
02:15:35.000 Conspiracy theorists once believed the moon was hollow, though that's more likely the moon being made out of cheese.
02:15:40.000 That I believe.
02:15:41.000 That's the one thing I do believe.
02:15:42.000 More likely than the moon being made out of cheese.
02:15:44.000 Still seems pretty ridiculous.
02:15:45.000 Surprisingly, it's not based on folklore.
02:15:47.000 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
02:15:48.000 NASA researchers sought to learn more about the composition of the moon during the Apollo 12 mission.
02:15:54.000 Astronaut Pete Conrad and Alan Bean were We're good to go.
02:16:25.000 Recorded the resulting vibrations, which were much bigger and lasted much longer than the scientists had anticipated.
02:16:31.000 They were far different from the earthquake vibrations we're familiar with.
02:16:36.000 I'm sure it's just the composition of the moon is different.
02:16:38.000 Yeah, totally.
02:16:40.000 And then there's just like all like structures on the moon and then like the Japanese when they, or not Chinese that landed on the backside of the moon, like.
02:16:47.000 See, there it goes.
02:16:47.000 The moon is only 60% as dense as Earth.
02:16:50.000 That doesn't mean the moon is hollow, but as with many things, like the moon landing itself, conspiracy theorists perpetuated that misinformation.
02:16:57.000 Yeah.
02:16:58.000 I mean...
02:16:59.000 That's my favorite conspiracy theory.
02:17:00.000 I mean, yes.
02:17:01.000 Of course.
02:17:02.000 My favorite conspiracy theory is we didn't go to the moon.
02:17:04.000 That's my favorite.
02:17:05.000 I hate that one.
02:17:06.000 I love it.
02:17:06.000 I just think it's so annoying.
02:17:10.000 Why is it annoying?
02:17:11.000 Because it's too many people involved.
02:17:13.000 Is it?
02:17:13.000 Oh, way too many people involved.
02:17:15.000 Like, the people that were, like, there during the launch.
02:17:18.000 Also, the fact that we've used the same way that we got to the moon with the things that we were landing on the moon now.
02:17:24.000 Right.
02:17:24.000 But the difference is taking a human biological organism and having to go into deep space and go through the Van Allen radiation belts and come back.
02:17:32.000 And also the photographs that were perfectly made with these Hasselback cameras.
02:17:37.000 But that was part of the...
02:17:38.000 They did make films.
02:17:40.000 They did stage moon landings for...
02:17:44.000 NASA internally did that for...
02:17:46.000 I forget what the reason they did it for.
02:17:48.000 Propaganda.
02:17:49.000 Well, it wasn't propaganda.
02:17:50.000 For more shit.
02:17:50.000 A lot of people.
02:17:51.000 But they were like, I don't know.
02:17:52.000 I'm pretty sure when we go up there, we're going to find the modules, the leftover modules.
02:17:57.000 If we don't, then fine.
02:17:58.000 I'll eat.
02:17:59.000 You know what I'll do?
02:18:00.000 I'll drink a full thing of your energy drink.
02:18:03.000 No, you don't have to do that.
02:18:03.000 But isn't it interesting, though, that that's one thing that you're kind of not open-minded about?
02:18:09.000 Because it's just like, it's too many people involved.
02:18:12.000 Like, you would have heard...
02:18:14.000 First of all, it's 1969. It's a different world.
02:18:17.000 Nixon's president.
02:18:18.000 Everyone's full of shit.
02:18:19.000 They lie about everything.
02:18:20.000 We're in the middle of the Cold War.
02:18:22.000 But why would scientists and engineers lie?
02:18:24.000 Well, if they were supposed to be doing it so that they could beat Russia in the moon missions.
02:18:30.000 And there was some sort of a patriotic...
02:18:33.000 Sure.
02:18:34.000 Element to it.
02:18:34.000 I mean, that's a motive.
02:18:36.000 The fact that we haven't been back since 1972. Well, they said that a lot of that was because they lost interest because it was just a competition.
02:18:44.000 We won it and then we were done.
02:18:46.000 Yeah.
02:18:46.000 No interest.
02:18:47.000 It's been 50 years.
02:18:49.000 Welcome back.
02:18:50.000 Apollo programs have employed 400,000 people and required the support of over 20,000 industrial firms and universities.
02:18:56.000 Sure.
02:18:56.000 But if it's compartmentalized.
02:18:58.000 So if they are going into space and they're just not going into deep space, they're going, you know, just like space shuttle space, which is not past the magnetosphere, the Van Allen radiation belts, out into deep space.
02:19:15.000 It's exciting.
02:19:16.000 I like it.
02:19:18.000 I'll entertain it a little bit, but it will be pretty...
02:19:22.000 I just have a feeling that it probably...
02:19:25.000 You sound a little closed-minded.
02:19:25.000 I'm a little closed-minded, but I will say this.
02:19:28.000 I'll leave an 8% chance...
02:19:30.000 No, I'll leave a 5% chance that I'm wrong.
02:19:33.000 Interesting.
02:19:34.000 But that's healthy.
02:19:35.000 5%?
02:19:36.000 Sort of.
02:19:36.000 It's not absolute.
02:19:37.000 Yeah.
02:19:41.000 We'll find out.
02:19:42.000 We'll find out if people ever actually do go.
02:19:44.000 I know.
02:19:45.000 Well, we're supposed to, right?
02:19:46.000 The next three years.
02:19:47.000 Four years.
02:19:48.000 They've always been supposed to.
02:19:49.000 George H. Herbert Walker Bush said we were going to go to the moon.
02:19:53.000 Yeah.
02:19:53.000 W said we were going to go to the moon.
02:19:54.000 W. I think Obama said we were going to go to the moon.
02:19:57.000 Yeah, I guess every president has to.
02:19:58.000 But I mean, my friend's friend who has an architecture company just got the...
02:20:07.000 Won the bid for designing the Lunar Colony modules.
02:20:12.000 So they're starting design on this.
02:20:16.000 Maybe in your lifetime people live on the moon and then Mars.
02:20:19.000 Yeah, I don't care about Mars so much, but the moon makes sense.
02:20:22.000 But that's a lonely place.
02:20:24.000 Scroll back, make that smaller so I can see the Earth in the background.
02:20:27.000 That's what's wild.
02:20:28.000 Imagine being somewhere looking down on the Earth.
02:20:30.000 I mean, if anybody doesn't go there and go like, wow, this planet's cool and we should save it.
02:20:36.000 I don't know what will.
02:20:38.000 That's amazing.
02:20:40.000 Right.
02:20:40.000 That's the perspective, right?
02:20:41.000 When you're outside of Earth to look back.
02:20:43.000 That's what all the astronauts talk about.
02:20:45.000 Yeah.
02:20:45.000 They go to the space station and then come back down.
02:20:47.000 It's like this insanely profound recognition that this is this very delicate, fragile thing that we're all a part of.
02:20:56.000 And then when you're in it and you're concentrating on boundaries and borders and disputes over resources and all that shit, you lose perspective of the magic of what you are on this organic spaceship that's hurling through the cosmos.
02:21:11.000 It's so trippy to me.
02:21:13.000 I always trip out with my friends where I'm like, you know, we're talking about being, like even us just talking about being on the planet.
02:21:19.000 We are on the planet, but we're talking about being on the planet that we are on, which is just insane to me.
02:21:25.000 I love those weird contradictions.
02:21:29.000 Well, I guess they're not contradictions, but just things to notice.
02:21:33.000 You can never talk about consciousness without realizing that you are the thing you're talking about.
02:21:40.000 Which is crazy.
02:21:41.000 It is crazy.
02:21:42.000 It makes you mad if you...
02:21:43.000 It can make you cuckoo.
02:21:44.000 It can make you cuckoo.
02:21:45.000 For Cocoa Puffs?
02:21:47.000 No.
02:21:48.000 No.
02:21:48.000 Okay.
02:21:50.000 Just crazy.
02:21:52.000 Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs is sugar addiction.
02:21:55.000 Yeah, you're right.
02:21:55.000 That's different.
02:21:56.000 That stuff's delicious.
02:21:57.000 I mean...
02:21:58.000 Well, they've tried to do a bunch of sugar-free versions.
02:22:00.000 It just doesn't cut the mustard.
02:22:02.000 Monk fruit's pretty good, though, man.
02:22:04.000 What's that?
02:22:04.000 Monk fruit's a sweet, yeah.
02:22:07.000 I like that stuff.
02:22:08.000 But do they make Cocoa Puffs with monk fruit?
02:22:10.000 No, they're not going to.
02:22:11.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:22:11.000 Like, if you get Captain Crunch, part of the thing is you're getting...
02:22:14.000 Yeah, you're getting cracked out.
02:22:16.000 You're getting cracked out.
02:22:17.000 You're enjoying this absolutely delicious, the milk gets delicious.
02:22:21.000 In the moment, it's so good.
02:22:22.000 Captain Crunch is the shit.
02:22:24.000 I mean, destroy the roof of your mouth.
02:22:26.000 Peanut butter Captain Crunch?
02:22:27.000 Oh, that I hated.
02:22:28.000 It's so good.
02:22:29.000 I hated how good it was.
02:22:31.000 I just was like, reaching in the bag, just like, Count Chocula.
02:22:35.000 Remember Count Chocula?
02:22:36.000 All of it.
02:22:36.000 Cookie Crisp?
02:22:37.000 Yeah.
02:22:37.000 Bro, they just poison kids.
02:22:39.000 I know!
02:22:39.000 They just poison kids for decades.
02:22:41.000 They're like, we can get away with it until they find out.
02:22:44.000 But until then, moolah.
02:22:46.000 Yeah.
02:22:47.000 Well, just get people to enjoy it.
02:22:49.000 And if they enjoy it, keep selling it.
02:22:51.000 Like, fuck the health consequences.
02:22:53.000 Yeah.
02:22:54.000 I know.
02:22:54.000 I know.
02:22:55.000 I know.
02:22:56.000 I'm always about like, I want people to, I don't want people to lose all the stuff that they love just because it's healthy.
02:23:02.000 It's like, I just want them to realize they can have all the stuff that they love, but it can be a healthy version of it.
02:23:07.000 Well, sort of.
02:23:08.000 You're not going to get a healthy version of an ice cream sundae.
02:23:11.000 I love an ice cream sundae.
02:23:12.000 I've gotten some monk fruit sweetened chocolate syrup that tastes pretty good.
02:23:16.000 You sound like a fucking hippie.
02:23:17.000 It's pretty good.
02:23:18.000 Like a dirty hippie that's lying to me about how vegan people talk about how good their fake chicken is.
02:23:24.000 No.
02:23:25.000 That I don't agree with.
02:23:26.000 That I don't agree with.
02:23:27.000 Although I will say corn is very delicious.
02:23:29.000 That Q-U-O-R-N. It's made from mushrooms, like mycelium or whatever.
02:23:34.000 I've never heard of that.
02:23:35.000 Yeah, corn.
02:23:36.000 We were selling it.
02:23:36.000 I worked in a health food store in the 90s and we would sell a ton of it.
02:23:39.000 And they make chicken cutlets and stuff like that.
02:23:42.000 And you just put them in the oven.
02:23:43.000 So it's a mushroom.
02:23:43.000 Yeah.
02:23:44.000 So it's like portobello, which is delicious.
02:23:46.000 Kind of, yeah, but it's made from mushrooms, so it's not like a mushroom, but it's like mushroom protein or something like that.
02:23:55.000 Portobello mushrooms are fucking delicious.
02:23:56.000 I love those.
02:23:57.000 Portobello burger?
02:23:58.000 They're so good.
02:23:59.000 Kidding?
02:23:59.000 Oh, so good.
02:24:00.000 So good.
02:24:00.000 Yeah, and you don't have to lie to yourself that you're eating some impossible bullshit.
02:24:03.000 I know.
02:24:04.000 That's the one thing I'm not into.
02:24:06.000 I used to be into, I mean, I still kind of am into like simulation meats.
02:24:09.000 You know, there's something kind of fun about it.
02:24:11.000 But in general, when you look at the ingredients, it's like 30 ingredients that make up this thing.
02:24:17.000 It's like, just eat something natural.
02:24:20.000 Or synthesized meat, which I'm invited to a dinner for the first time.
02:24:25.000 They're using synthesized chicken.
02:24:27.000 They're making a bunch of meals from, not synthesized, but bioreacted chicken, which I'm very excited about.
02:24:33.000 So that's chicken that was made in a laboratory.
02:24:35.000 Yeah, a bi-reactor.
02:24:37.000 So it's actually chicken tissue that they've recreated.
02:24:39.000 Yeah, they take cell culture.
02:24:40.000 They only need one sample of it, and then they can just perpetuate it.
02:24:43.000 And then they grow it into substrates.
02:24:46.000 They grow it among substrates and then create this chicken meat.
02:24:51.000 Tyson's chicken is heavily invested in Upside Foods that makes this chicken.
02:24:55.000 They're the only, I think, the only company that's ready to go to market.
02:24:59.000 Interesting.
02:24:59.000 And they just got FDA approval.
02:25:01.000 I wonder how bad that stuff is for you.
02:25:03.000 I don't know.
02:25:04.000 We're going to have to find out.
02:25:04.000 But it's just chicken cells.
02:25:06.000 Right.
02:25:07.000 I don't know.
02:25:08.000 Yeah, I've seen when they do 3D printing steaks.
02:25:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
02:25:12.000 I've heard of that.
02:25:12.000 3D printing with fat as well.
02:25:13.000 They put the fat in there and marble it and it kind of looks like a steak.
02:25:17.000 I would love to try that.
02:25:18.000 Yeah.
02:25:19.000 I'm into that.
02:25:20.000 That I'm into.
02:25:21.000 I asked Moby once, I was like, if they made synthesized meat or bioreacted meat, would you eat it?
02:25:26.000 And he was like, yes.
02:25:28.000 He was like, immediately.
02:25:29.000 And I was like, get it, because it promotes another alternative to actually just raising a bunch of cattle and all the resources it takes.
02:25:37.000 And also ethical as well.
02:25:39.000 But I don't know.
02:25:41.000 I like that kind of stuff, because I like to pretend I'm an astronaut.
02:25:45.000 Eat paste.
02:25:46.000 Yeah, if I could get all my calories and a little paste thing, Believe me, I'd be the first one to do it.
02:25:52.000 And it was healthy, and it actually worked.
02:25:53.000 I'm down.
02:25:54.000 But you wouldn't, because you like food.
02:25:56.000 I do love food.
02:25:57.000 Don't you like sitting down for a meal?
02:25:59.000 It's the smells and the way it looks, and the chef prepared it.
02:26:04.000 Yeah, but sometimes my addiction to food, it actually does the opposite.
02:26:08.000 Like, yes, 100%.
02:26:09.000 I love it, but sometimes...
02:26:11.000 Explain your addiction to food.
02:26:12.000 What do you mean by that?
02:26:14.000 Well, I mean, I have like...
02:26:17.000 I don't know.
02:26:17.000 It's like I've been...
02:26:19.000 My weight fluctuates all throughout my life.
02:26:21.000 I've been probably a chubbier guy most of my life.
02:26:25.000 But I never liked it.
02:26:27.000 And there would be moments where I'd go like, fuck this.
02:26:30.000 I'm changing my diet.
02:26:31.000 I'm going to exercise.
02:26:32.000 Once in high school, I got really thin in high school.
02:26:34.000 I got really in shape in my later 20s.
02:26:37.000 And then I did it again when I first moved to LA. But sometimes my food...
02:26:42.000 I just go on these binges.
02:26:44.000 I'll be late at night watching a movie and I'm like, You know what?
02:26:48.000 I didn't eat dinner, so fuck it.
02:26:50.000 Oh, there's that new burger place.
02:26:52.000 I'll just get Uber Eats.
02:26:53.000 Oh, they have two burgers that are really interesting.
02:26:55.000 Well, maybe I'll get both of them and I'll just save half or whatever.
02:26:57.000 And then I just eat all the burgers and I feel terrible.
02:27:01.000 And that will happen a lot.
02:27:04.000 Or I'll go, oh, this is a healthy cereal, so I'm gonna have this healthy cereal and I'm gonna use flax milk and all this stuff.
02:27:09.000 And then I eat the entire box of cereal.
02:27:11.000 I can't, I just, once I get going, it's hard for me to stop.
02:27:16.000 And then when I like, do you wanna go out to dinner?
02:27:19.000 But I'm trying to watch my diet.
02:27:20.000 I'm like, I don't know how to go out to dinner and not order, you know, like I get this weird anxiety about it.
02:27:25.000 But now that I'm doing the keto thing, it's much easier.
02:27:27.000 Cause I can go like, I can have cheese.
02:27:29.000 How long you been doing the keto thing?
02:27:30.000 For like three months or something like that.
02:27:32.000 Have you lost weight?
02:27:33.000 I have lost a little weight, yeah.
02:27:35.000 I've lost a little weight, and I haven't really been exercising that hard, just like getting like 7,000 steps a day or whatever.
02:27:41.000 But a lot of it's diet, and it's like once you get that sugar out of it, and I've also been taking this stuff called, I think it's like called Super Gut or something like that, and it's like this powder that you add to a drink, and it aids your gut biome, whatever.
02:27:55.000 I think the combination of the two things that I'm doing, I'm feeling like I'm a little bit more in control of my appetite, and that feels good.
02:28:03.000 Because then if I do go off one day a week, I feel fine.
02:28:08.000 I was at Sarah's party, and she had some sick pizza, and I was like, ah, screw it, I'm just going to go for it.
02:28:13.000 But I also danced for two and a half hours as well, so I felt like it all balanced out.
02:28:18.000 Do you find that when you're on keto, your appetite is much more suppressed because your body is able to burn fat?
02:28:24.000 Yeah.
02:28:25.000 Way.
02:28:26.000 Big difference.
02:28:26.000 Also, you have to eat so much protein to supplement the loss of other things.
02:28:31.000 That is high satiety.
02:28:33.000 Yeah.
02:28:33.000 So in the morning, I usually do.
02:28:36.000 I have a lot of really great whey proteins that I take with me.
02:28:39.000 I even have a hit of it that I carry with me.
02:28:42.000 If I get hungry, instead of going, I'm going to get the thing, I'll just pour some protein.
02:28:46.000 That usually makes me feel full.
02:28:49.000 That's cool.
02:28:50.000 And fiber powder, that kind of stuff.
02:28:52.000 I don't know.
02:28:53.000 I have a problem.
02:28:54.000 It's the only thing in my life that I feel like...
02:28:55.000 That and scrolling.
02:28:58.000 I have an addiction to news.
02:28:59.000 I'll just be like, news, [...
02:29:02.000 I'm trying to wean myself off of that addiction.
02:29:04.000 That addiction is a real problem.
02:29:06.000 I need it gone.
02:29:07.000 I really do.
02:29:08.000 If I checked in maybe once a week, I'd be fine.
02:29:12.000 My new phone doesn't have any apps on it.
02:29:14.000 Really?
02:29:14.000 Yeah.
02:29:15.000 Oh, sick.
02:29:16.000 Yeah, so my idea is to keep my old number and use it for social media when I need to do stuff.
02:29:20.000 And then with the new one, nothing on it.
02:29:23.000 That's a cool idea.
02:29:25.000 I know, it's tough.
02:29:26.000 I mean, I rely on social media for posting.
02:29:29.000 Right, but the problem is if it's on the phone that I use all the time, I'm just too tempted.
02:29:34.000 Yeah, I get it.
02:29:36.000 Yeah, it's tough.
02:29:39.000 Those two things.
02:29:40.000 And then I'm addicted to driving, but that's an okay addiction.
02:29:43.000 Yeah, that's a good addiction.
02:29:44.000 That I love.
02:29:45.000 Yeah, that's the thing, is finding something that's addictive that's actually beneficial in some way, rewarding in some way.
02:29:52.000 Not a food.
02:29:53.000 Yeah.
02:29:54.000 The food thing.
02:29:54.000 Well, food is, it's reward.
02:29:56.000 That's the problem is.
02:29:56.000 It's very pleasurable.
02:29:58.000 Yes, I know.
02:29:59.000 I mean, like, I don't mind for holiday, like Thanksgiving, like, I'll get excited about, oh, I'm just going to have some turkey and some freaking gravy and some cranberry sauce, whatever.
02:30:08.000 I can get excited about a holiday meal, but my everyday day-to-day meal stuff, that's the part where I'm like, I need to get into a mindset where I know this is going to be great for me and I'm going to feel good and I made a good decision.
02:30:21.000 Yeah.
02:30:22.000 Yeah.
02:30:22.000 You know, and that can be really hard when you get that sugar talking to you and all those carbs.
02:30:28.000 I mean, last night I got a shark-a-tree board for, you know, at night because I didn't eat dinner.
02:30:33.000 I had like the cheese and the meat and there was like this basket of bread and I just smelled it and I just took one bite of it and I was like, okay...
02:30:41.000 That's it.
02:30:42.000 But I felt okay about it.
02:30:43.000 I didn't feel like I was being an asshole to myself or was playing games.
02:30:47.000 But I was like, okay, yeah, okay, a little bit.
02:30:50.000 Great.
02:30:50.000 Back to the other stuff.
02:30:52.000 And I made it.
02:30:53.000 Every time I do that, I'm like, oh, you made it.
02:30:55.000 Good job, man.
02:30:56.000 It's like a game that I have to play with myself.
02:30:58.000 Well, you literally are what you eat.
02:31:00.000 If you eat a lot of shit, your body turns into shit.
02:31:02.000 Yeah, especially as you get older.
02:31:04.000 I mean, you're in your 40s now.
02:31:07.000 I'm getting there.
02:31:08.000 I'm in my 50s.
02:31:09.000 I'm in my 50s.
02:31:10.000 I'm in my 51. But yeah, and I just noticed that shit.
02:31:14.000 The inflammation thing is really the biggest thing for me.
02:31:16.000 I'm like, that's the reward if there's anything.
02:31:19.000 Because getting up in the morning and going, uh...
02:31:21.000 Or sitting down and going...
02:31:24.000 So many people are inflamed.
02:31:26.000 So many people are walking around and they just don't understand that a lot of it is your food.
02:31:31.000 I mean, the American diet is just so poor.
02:31:33.000 There's some insane number like 40% of us are obese.
02:31:36.000 Maybe more.
02:31:38.000 It's crazy.
02:31:39.000 The processed foods, the fucking sedentary lifestyle.
02:31:43.000 I love when you see those old pictures from like 1970s.
02:31:46.000 I know.
02:31:47.000 Everyone looked hot.
02:31:48.000 Everyone looked great.
02:31:50.000 They're eating normal food.
02:31:52.000 They're eating actual food.
02:31:53.000 And then you go to 2023 and everyone looks like they're gonna have a heart attack at any moment.
02:31:57.000 I was like DuPont got involved in our food and then it was all over.
02:32:01.000 Well, a lot of people got involved in our food.
02:32:02.000 And, you know, it's also shelf life.
02:32:05.000 There's a lot of factors.
02:32:06.000 You know, it's like if you want really healthy food, it doesn't last long.
02:32:11.000 Yeah.
02:32:11.000 Yeah.
02:32:12.000 You got to pick it and eat it.
02:32:13.000 Raw milk and, you know, real healthy food that it's biological.
02:32:18.000 It's going to deteriorate.
02:32:20.000 Like if you want vegetables, you have to eat them real soon after you pick them.
02:32:23.000 Yeah.
02:32:23.000 If you want meat, you have to cook it pretty quick.
02:32:25.000 Yeah.
02:32:26.000 Or freeze it.
02:32:27.000 Or freeze it.
02:32:27.000 Yeah.
02:32:28.000 Yeah.
02:32:29.000 Yeah.
02:32:30.000 Wow.
02:32:30.000 It's good, though, that you're on the keto thing.
02:32:32.000 That's great.
02:32:33.000 Thanks, man.
02:32:33.000 A lot of people have done that, and it's made a giant change in their life.
02:32:36.000 It really has.
02:32:37.000 And I try not to be hyper-strict about it.
02:32:39.000 I'm not like, I'm keto.
02:32:41.000 It's more like, I'm keto-ish.
02:32:43.000 Yeah, that's good.
02:32:44.000 Because it lightens it a little bit.
02:32:45.000 Because nothing I hate worse than fads.
02:32:48.000 Sure.
02:32:49.000 I'm on the 30-60 diet, or I'm on the blah, blah, blah diet.
02:32:52.000 Settle down, buddy.
02:32:53.000 Just eat whole.
02:32:56.000 Good foods with no processed sugars and all that shit and just enjoy yourself.
02:33:01.000 Yeah, so we've sorted out one aspect of your life, right?
02:33:03.000 Yeah.
02:33:04.000 Now we've got to sort out the exercise.
02:33:06.000 Yeah, my knees.
02:33:08.000 That's why I come here.
02:33:09.000 I come here to get my diet on track.
02:33:11.000 That's the only reason why I come here.
02:33:12.000 That and physical well-being.
02:33:14.000 Those are the two things.
02:33:15.000 Well, we can guide you in the right direction.
02:33:17.000 I certainly know people that can.
02:33:19.000 There's some online stuff if you don't want to hire a trainer, too.
02:33:22.000 There's plenty of online stuff that you can get.
02:33:25.000 There is, but I really love a trainer.
02:33:27.000 I love going like four days a week, going to a trainer and getting that relationship going, and they're like obsessed with goals, and I'm like, yeah, we're both in line with this and the improvements.
02:33:37.000 I love it.
02:33:38.000 Because I like going into a gym, because it's weird.
02:33:41.000 As many trainers as I've worked with, when I walk into a gym, I get optioned.
02:33:46.000 Like, option paralysis.
02:33:48.000 I'm like, what do I start, should I do shoulders?
02:33:51.000 Should I do shoulders?
02:33:52.000 No, I'm gonna do legs.
02:33:53.000 Maybe I'll do a little bit of each.
02:33:54.000 No, no, I'll do, it's crazy.
02:33:57.000 I can't put together a program for myself.
02:34:00.000 But you have someone put it together for you.
02:34:01.000 There's plenty of things online.
02:34:03.000 That's true.
02:34:03.000 There's apps that do that.
02:34:04.000 Yeah.
02:34:05.000 You just follow an app.
02:34:06.000 Yeah, I know.
02:34:06.000 There's so many of those, Reggie.
02:34:08.000 I know.
02:34:08.000 You're a technologically advanced guy.
02:34:10.000 I know, but I'm terrible.
02:34:12.000 I'm the worst.
02:34:13.000 It's just like it's so nice.
02:34:14.000 You walk in, it's like, okay, we're going to do this today.
02:34:17.000 I'm like, great.
02:34:17.000 There's a social aspect of it that I kind of...
02:34:20.000 I kind of enjoy it.
02:34:21.000 No, that is cool.
02:34:22.000 And then taking all the weight off of you.
02:34:24.000 Yeah.
02:34:24.000 Someone else.
02:34:25.000 Yeah.
02:34:26.000 An actual professional.
02:34:27.000 And you're going to a place and someone who gets results and all stuff like that.
02:34:30.000 I used Kumail Nanjiani's trainer for a little while, but I wasn't really...
02:34:35.000 I wasn't...
02:34:36.000 I don't know.
02:34:37.000 You got to use his pharmacist, too.
02:34:38.000 Oh, my God.
02:34:39.000 I know.
02:34:40.000 I know.
02:34:41.000 That was so funny.
02:34:42.000 Yeah, I know.
02:34:43.000 Wink, wink.
02:34:44.000 Love you, Kumail.
02:34:45.000 He's a nice guy.
02:34:46.000 No, he's...
02:34:47.000 But, you know, nothing wrong with taking hormones.
02:34:49.000 I mean, I took a little bit of HGH when I was first training.
02:34:52.000 It was, like, shooting it, but then, like, the shooting it up thing was, like...
02:34:56.000 Shooting it up?
02:34:57.000 Like, into fat?
02:34:58.000 Well, injecting, yeah, into the fat, into stomach fat, but, like...
02:35:02.000 It made me feel so crazy every time I did it.
02:35:05.000 I was like, I can't do this anymore.
02:35:07.000 But I was doing fine with that.
02:35:09.000 Again, I'm not looking to get shredded, ripped, Hollywood, Marvel.
02:35:13.000 You want to be fit.
02:35:13.000 I just want to be fit.
02:35:14.000 That's it.
02:35:15.000 Fortunately, I think I have a very good cardiovascular system, which is the most important part.
02:35:20.000 It's your central pumping lifeline.
02:35:24.000 Yeah, I know I can do it.
02:35:26.000 I can get back there again.
02:35:27.000 I just want to be in swimming trunks and be really, really proud.
02:35:30.000 And I know that I've learned how to be happy with my body.
02:35:33.000 Do you know how many people do that?
02:35:34.000 They get fit so that they can look good on vacation?
02:35:37.000 Yeah.
02:35:37.000 Oh, I know.
02:35:37.000 It's kind of crazy.
02:35:38.000 Here I am on vacation.
02:35:41.000 Like this event that you've prepped for.
02:35:46.000 That's a little weird.
02:35:47.000 It's weird.
02:35:48.000 I don't mind the metric of like...
02:35:51.000 We're all going to go swimming.
02:35:52.000 And then everyone takes off their clothes and I'm just like, I'm totally comfortable with it.
02:35:55.000 Right.
02:35:56.000 That's what you want.
02:35:56.000 That's what I want.
02:35:57.000 That's all I want.
02:35:58.000 I just want to be...
02:35:58.000 You want to look good naked.
02:35:59.000 Because I've been there.
02:36:01.000 That's the problem.
02:36:01.000 It's like when you've been there a few times...
02:36:04.000 That's the thing, because I'm just like, I know I can get there.
02:36:07.000 And my friends are like, but you look beautiful.
02:36:08.000 And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:36:09.000 I appreciate you saying that.
02:36:10.000 And I'm working on feeling happy in my skin.
02:36:13.000 But when I take a step down a flight of stairs, there's some extra jiggling going around.
02:36:19.000 I don't like that feeling.
02:36:20.000 And so I got to do something.
02:36:22.000 It's fixable, Reggie.
02:36:23.000 It is fixable.
02:36:23.000 This is a very fixable problem.
02:36:25.000 This isn't like the war in the Middle East.
02:36:27.000 No, no.
02:36:28.000 This is a very fixable problem.
02:36:29.000 Yeah, war in the Middle East or people that love heroin.
02:36:34.000 Yeah.
02:36:35.000 That seems like a bigger problem.
02:36:37.000 It's a little bit of a bigger problem.
02:36:39.000 But that's a problem that could be mitigated with some drugs, too.
02:36:41.000 True.
02:36:42.000 You know, that's the really sad thing about the lack of psychedelic therapy being legal in this country.
02:36:47.000 Yes.
02:36:48.000 Is that that's one of the best ways to fix it.
02:36:49.000 There's so many people that have fixed a lot of those problems, including friends of mine, particularly with Ibogaine, which I have no experience in.
02:36:56.000 Oh, yeah.
02:36:56.000 I've heard about that, yeah.
02:36:57.000 Many, many.
02:36:57.000 And there's actually a physical mechanism that happens in your mind that stops the addiction in its tracks.
02:37:03.000 As you down the last drops of Kratom and Kava.
02:37:07.000 Kratom and Kava, feel free!
02:37:10.000 They had a lawsuit.
02:37:11.000 Yeah.
02:37:12.000 Or they're in a lawsuit.
02:37:13.000 Yeah, there's some shit going on with them.
02:37:15.000 Yeah.
02:37:15.000 I mean, I don't know.
02:37:17.000 I don't know what's going on with that.
02:37:19.000 I don't know what's going on.
02:37:19.000 I haven't looked at it enough.
02:37:20.000 But it's also like the guy who was doing it drank ten of them a day.
02:37:24.000 I know.
02:37:24.000 That's what I'm talking about.
02:37:25.000 That's everything.
02:37:26.000 That's like alcohol.
02:37:27.000 Are you going to sue Domino's because you order 10 pizzas a day and you have a fucking heart attack?
02:37:31.000 Or sue alcohol for your problems.
02:37:35.000 I get it.
02:37:36.000 Regulation is good, but it's like any of these things.
02:37:38.000 I don't like regulations.
02:37:40.000 Some of them are wrong.
02:37:43.000 Well, for quality regulations, those are important.
02:37:45.000 Well, I like home construction regulations.
02:37:48.000 Or knowing that this actually is Kratom.
02:37:51.000 Car regulations, safety regulations.
02:37:54.000 100%.
02:37:54.000 I believe in that kind of regulation.
02:37:56.000 But I do not believe in regulating human beings' choices of things that they have been consuming for thousands of years.
02:38:03.000 And to have people that have no experience in those things be the ones who regulate them is infuriating to me.
02:38:09.000 I agree with that.
02:38:10.000 Because all the people that tell you that psychedelics should be illegal are not doing psychedelics.
02:38:15.000 That's like people saying, you don't need exercise and you're a sedentary slob.
02:38:21.000 Shut up.
02:38:23.000 All you need is a balanced diet.
02:38:25.000 Bitch, you don't have a balanced diet.
02:38:26.000 So shut the fuck up.
02:38:28.000 I had a fat doctor tell me once, you get all the vitamins you eat from your food and I look right at his stomach.
02:38:34.000 Oh my god.
02:38:35.000 I'm like, look at you, bro.
02:38:36.000 You little spindly little arms and your gut.
02:38:39.000 You can't even open up a jar of mayonnaise.
02:38:40.000 Shut the fuck up.
02:38:41.000 Because it's like, you gotta lead by example, man.
02:38:43.000 Talk the talk, walk the walk.
02:38:45.000 And that's what it's about.
02:38:46.000 And I'm thankful for like, you know Rick Doblin?
02:38:48.000 Oh yeah, you know Rick Doblin.
02:38:49.000 Yeah, we had that little exchange.
02:38:51.000 Yeah, we hung out together.
02:38:52.000 That's so cool, man.
02:38:54.000 He's the best.
02:38:54.000 Cool dude, right?
02:38:55.000 He's so important.
02:38:57.000 Shout out to Rick Doblin and MAPS. They're so important.
02:39:01.000 They're so important for elevating the discourse of psychedelics and highlighting the importance and all the benefits and the fact that they're doing MDMA therapy for soldiers and people with PTSD and finding some really excellent results from that.
02:39:16.000 That, to me, is so promising and so important.
02:39:19.000 And one of the things that you're seeing now that I think is really incredible is people on the right, right-wing people, that recognize because they have friends that are in the military that have come back and have done, whether it's psilocybin studies or psilocybin therapy or ayahuasca,
02:39:35.000 and they've had...
02:39:36.000 Amazing results and it's helped them tremendously.
02:39:39.000 Yes.
02:39:40.000 That is huge and that's so that's it's changing the way people think about these things where they thought it was just for losers who want to escape reality and you're just a drug addict and now they're realizing oh Maybe I was a little closed-minded and you know you're talking to fucking Navy SEALs that have done it It's helped them tremendously like oh I respect those people I'm changing my perspective.
02:40:00.000 A hundred percent.
02:40:02.000 I mean, it's like psychedelics have been part of our culture since human consciousness existence forever.
02:40:07.000 And there's a reason for it.
02:40:09.000 And the reason for it is because it gets us out.
02:40:11.000 To me, it's about creating options.
02:40:13.000 It's like when you end literally sometimes neural pathways, new neurons or new neural pathways are generated.
02:40:21.000 When you're trapped in either a trauma or something, you're essentially in a really tight loop that you can't see any other way of existing.
02:40:30.000 When you have a psychedelic, it's like you zoom out and you're like, oh shit, there's all this other terrain.
02:40:35.000 And then you can start to heal.
02:40:38.000 But I think when I went to the MAPS convention, me and Eric Andre did MAPS show with Flaming Lips.
02:40:47.000 But I also spoke on a panel about psychedelics in film.
02:40:52.000 And I'm just like such a huge proponent of it and the fact that it's being taken seriously and they're doing peer-reviewed papers and research and there's more research being done on it.
02:41:01.000 I love it.
02:41:02.000 I think it's one of the things that could possibly save humanity.
02:41:05.000 Yes!
02:41:05.000 It sounds so crazy to say, but I think you're right.
02:41:08.000 And I agree 100%.
02:41:10.000 I think perspective-enhancing things can save people's lives, and they can change the way people view the world, which could help us all.
02:41:19.000 Yeah.
02:41:20.000 Please.
02:41:21.000 Come on, guys.
02:41:22.000 Let's beam ourselves up.
02:41:24.000 And again, not for everybody.
02:41:25.000 Not for people with severe mental issues, schizophrenia, people that have a hard time with regular reality.
02:41:32.000 No, they shouldn't be on it.
02:41:34.000 That's just like everything.
02:41:36.000 There's some people that shouldn't drink.
02:41:37.000 There's some people that shouldn't smoke weed.
02:41:39.000 Smoking weed is one thing that I talk about all the time.
02:41:43.000 There are people that have, like, real problems when they smoke too much weed and they go crazy.
02:41:48.000 And I've seen it.
02:41:50.000 I know people.
02:41:51.000 I've seen it, too.
02:41:52.000 And it's like I've had to learn how to be a lot more compassionate about it because sometimes I'm like, no, they're just faking it.
02:41:58.000 And I'm like, no, that's real and you have to have much more.
02:42:01.000 No.
02:42:02.000 The biological variability amongst human beings is very wide.
02:42:06.000 And there's some people that just cannot handle a lot of different things.
02:42:10.000 And it's not their fault.
02:42:10.000 It's literally who they are.
02:42:12.000 And we're all different.
02:42:13.000 Yeah.
02:42:14.000 I don't know.
02:42:15.000 I just want us to get some perspective and kind of realize like, oh man, we could be doing some pretty amazing shit at all times if we want to.
02:42:23.000 We don't have to always be like...
02:42:25.000 Oh, this sucks.
02:42:27.000 I'm pessimistic all the time.
02:42:29.000 You're like, come on, man.
02:42:30.000 It's like, you got all this time.
02:42:31.000 I swear to God, when you get older, you're going to think back about all that time that you were wasting.
02:42:35.000 Yeah, just complaining.
02:42:36.000 Feeling like shit.
02:42:38.000 Complaining.
02:42:38.000 It's like, man, get into the solution, man.
02:42:42.000 The solutions are fun.
02:42:43.000 Get into the solution.
02:42:45.000 That's your next book.
02:42:46.000 Yeah, that's Reggie Watts, Getting into the Solution.
02:42:48.000 But I'll be in a black turtleneck.
02:42:50.000 How long are you in town for?
02:42:52.000 I'm here.
02:42:52.000 I'm doing your club this weekend.
02:42:53.000 So I'm doing five dates at your club.
02:42:56.000 Well, I mean, when this comes out, maybe that doesn't.
02:42:57.000 But yeah, so I'm doing five dates.
02:43:00.000 Have you been doing clubs a lot?
02:43:02.000 You mean like formal comedy clubs?
02:43:03.000 Yeah.
02:43:04.000 Throughout my career, not as much.
02:43:07.000 I'd say probably about like 5% of the places.
02:43:09.000 You're going to love the mothership.
02:43:10.000 I went that one day.
02:43:11.000 I know, but I mean to perform.
02:43:12.000 Oh, perform.
02:43:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:43:13.000 It's a great place to perform.
02:43:14.000 I always tell people, I say like, it's the comedy club because it is, but it is a comedy club that if a comedian wanted to design the perfect comedy club, That's the comedy club that you would make.
02:43:25.000 And that's exactly what it is.
02:43:27.000 But it's just got the greatest vibe.
02:43:29.000 I love that there's an independent viewing box for just the comedians, you know, so they can watch the show.
02:43:35.000 Because my thing is, I hate fucking being backstage.
02:43:38.000 Chatting's fine, you know, getting to know people is great.
02:43:40.000 But I also like to watch the show.
02:43:42.000 Well, the fact that it's attached to the green room was the ultimate.
02:43:44.000 That's what I love.
02:43:45.000 When we designed it, and that was a projection room.
02:43:47.000 And I said, what if we had this as our green room instead of the green room being backstage?
02:43:53.000 And then you just look down from these balconies.
02:43:56.000 Love it.
02:43:56.000 Oh, yeah.
02:43:57.000 It's so good.
02:43:57.000 And the projection room was the perfect size.
02:44:00.000 Yeah.
02:44:00.000 It was perfect.
02:44:01.000 When we opened it up and we removed all the equipment, it was a beautiful labor of love.
02:44:07.000 It really was.
02:44:08.000 And it's so fun to be there now and to have it be received so well by my peers, comedians.
02:44:17.000 When they come there, I go, my God, this is like you built the place.
02:44:20.000 Yeah.
02:44:20.000 You built the place for us.
02:44:21.000 Yeah.
02:44:22.000 It's for you.
02:44:22.000 It's for us.
02:44:23.000 It's for the art form.
02:44:25.000 I designed it and built it, or had someone help me design it, rather, but built it exactly for comedy.
02:44:33.000 I didn't build it as a money-making venture.
02:44:35.000 My goal was to break even.
02:44:37.000 It'd be great if I could break even in this place.
02:44:39.000 I just don't want to lose money.
02:44:40.000 I don't want it to be something I'm pouring money into every year and I'm like, oh my god, I gotta get rid of the club.
02:44:44.000 I want it to be able to make money so it's not a strain, but also help the community and the fact that we have this very strong program for up-and-coming comedians.
02:44:54.000 We have two nights of open mic nights.
02:44:56.000 We have Kill Tony there.
02:44:58.000 The door people are all comics who audition for that job with their act.
02:45:03.000 And they all get spots, and they get showcase spots, and they get a chance to perform, and then they get a chance to see some of the best comics in the world come through.
02:45:12.000 Man, it's dope.
02:45:13.000 I tell people that all the time.
02:45:14.000 I'm like, that's where you want to go.
02:45:16.000 If you go to Austin and you get the chance and you can, you definitely got to go there.
02:45:19.000 Because, I mean, I just saw some comedy and I was hanging out in the green room, but I was just like, this is dope, man.
02:45:25.000 This is the type of vibe I would create for a club.
02:45:29.000 And the sight lines are great.
02:45:30.000 Everything about it is great for the audience and great for the performer.
02:45:34.000 Yeah, we spent a lot of time thinking about it.
02:45:37.000 And then Louis C.K. came in and gave me a lot of great tips.
02:45:40.000 Really?
02:45:40.000 Yeah.
02:45:41.000 He told me to lower the ceiling in the small room, make the stage smaller in the small room, and then the big room, lower the ceiling even further.
02:45:48.000 Oh, wow.
02:45:49.000 And, you know, it used to be a movie theater, so it was like stadium seating.
02:45:52.000 Oh.
02:45:52.000 So we raised the floor.
02:45:54.000 I see.
02:45:55.000 And so now it's all one level.
02:45:56.000 Gotcha.
02:45:56.000 So that's how we got it to the point where it's the way it is right now.
02:45:59.000 And that gave you room for the thing downstairs.
02:46:01.000 Yes, it gave us the tunnel.
02:46:03.000 It's fucking dope.
02:46:04.000 That's cool.
02:46:05.000 Being able to come in through the alley, that's great.
02:46:07.000 Alley loaded.
02:46:08.000 I mean, come on, man.
02:46:08.000 And the place is filled with cops.
02:46:10.000 It's super secure.
02:46:11.000 I love it.
02:46:12.000 Yeah, it's great.
02:46:13.000 It's awesome.
02:46:15.000 Congratulations, man.
02:46:15.000 Thank you.
02:46:16.000 Seriously, I'm glad.
02:46:16.000 I can't wait to perform, man.
02:46:18.000 I can't wait to have you.
02:46:19.000 Reg, you're the fucking man.
02:46:20.000 I love you to death.
02:46:21.000 You are.
02:46:22.000 I love you too, man.
02:46:22.000 Thank you.
02:46:22.000 Thanks for always having me.
02:46:23.000 Bye, everybody.
02:46:24.000 Bye.