The migrant crisis in New York City has reached crisis proportions, and Mayor Eric Adams is under fire for his handling of it. But is it really a crisis at all? Or is it just a political ploy to distract attention from the ongoing immigration crisis in the rest of the country? And why should we even care about it if it s not a real crisis? This week, we talk about whether or not the crisis is a real one, why it s happening, and what we should do about it. Plus, we discuss the best way to deal with it, and why we should all care. And, of course, we answer the question: Is it a crisis, or is it a PR stunt by the mayor, or something that needs to be done to solve the problem at hand? And who's to blame for it? We'll talk about that, and much more, on this week's episode of Thick & Thin. Music: Fair Weather Fans by The Good Fight, courtesy of Zapsplat Art: Mackenzie Moore Editor: Alex Blumberg Theme Music: Hayden Coplen Additional Compositions by Jeff Kaale ( ) Logo by Ian Dorsch ( ) Music: Jeff Perla ( ) and Will Witwer ( ) Editor: Ben Kuchta ( ) Additional editing and production by Ian McKirdy ( ) Thank you for your support of the podcast! Thank you so much for all your support and support, Ben Kaitlyn ( ) & Ben Koppel ( ) for producing this episode. Please rate us on Anchor Media: and The Good Thing Podcasts for our new music: The Good Life Podcast & The GoodLife Project Thanks to our logo by . , The Good Work Podcast by , The Good Ol Ol Ol , The Bad Ol Ol & ( ) by @ , & , and is a tribute to the Good Ol Good Ol and . Thank you, by @ ? . Thanks to , Thank you to ! thanks to . . & Our Sponsoring Outtro Music: , "The Good Morning by Shadydave ( ) is - The Good, The Bad Bad, & @ & Thank You, , @ . , & & .
00:01:07.000So in the 80s and 90s, the courts in New York began interpreting that more and more strictly.
00:01:17.000Almost no other state, I'm not sure if any other state actually has something in its state constitution requiring that kind of a thing.
00:01:24.000So basically what happened is the judges ended up interpreting this more strictly.
00:01:33.000Obviously, the original purpose of this is for New Yorkers that are homeless to be housed.
00:01:38.000But they ended up interpreting it so strictly that when the Republican governors in Texas and Florida began sending a few thousand migrants up to New York City as kind of an FU to the liberal cities that have declared themselves sanctuary cities without actually having to deal with the kind of border crisis that Texas does.
00:02:01.000The first few thousand found that, legally, New York had to house them.
00:02:07.000And then word got down to Mexico that if you make it to New York City, you will not be turned away.
00:02:14.000Legally, you don't even have to be a citizen for the state amendment to apply to you.
00:02:20.000So what began as a few, let's say the first 10 or 15,000 were sent by the Republican governors as a kind of political tactic, Has now become tens and tens and tens and tens of thousands coming of their own volition to New York City.
00:02:37.000And it's the only state in the country where Mayor Adams has no legal recourse to send people elsewhere.
00:03:55.000It's just a smart thing to do from their perspective.
00:03:58.000But that doesn't mean, from our perspective...
00:04:02.000That we should just put out the bat signal to the whole world and say, you can come to New York City and we have no legal recourse to move you anywhere else.
00:04:28.000Is this just a fact that they found out that they can do it and it's better than where they are?
00:04:32.000And if they go there, these places that are essentially, you know, they're charitably minded and they would like to house people that are down on their luck, but now people are sort of taking advantage of that loophole and just swarming.
00:04:49.000I think the whole Western world has become much more open to immigration recently.
00:04:54.000Obviously America was open to immigration in the 19th century, but we were the outlier.
00:04:59.000All the other countries of the world, the default was closed borders, essentially.
00:05:04.000So I think the whole world has, out of empathy for the poor and struggling, has wanted to have more permissive immigration, but that sends an incentive to people of the world that they can now come.
00:05:19.000They can, you know, abuse asylum laws.
00:05:22.000And again, I don't even blame people for doing this because it's exactly what I would do if I were born in Guatemala or Syria.
00:05:33.000And I would probably lie about it in order to get a better life in the one life that I had.
00:05:38.000But this is just a true side effect of those compassionate laws is that people abuse them.
00:05:43.000You get, you know, immigration pools that are vastly proportionally male, which is how you know that they're not refugees because where are the women?
00:06:41.000Now, one of the things that's weird about this crisis is it comes at the same time as people trying to say that you should have no voter ID. And they've openly spoken about it in New York that people who are illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote.
00:07:12.000They came from Italy and Ireland, and that's just why I'm here, you know?
00:07:16.000So they came over when they knew that they could have a better life in America, and these people are doing the same thing, and I understand it, but...
00:07:25.000It's just wild that there's no requirements.
00:07:55.000The Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas confirmed that the administration has successfully negotiated a deal with Venezuela to execute the policy, but did not say whether Venezuela was getting anything from the US in return.
00:08:07.000We are a nation of immigrants and we are a nation of laws, Mayorkas said at the same Thursday press conference.
00:08:14.000Officials said that some migrants have already been identified for deportation.
00:08:18.000Starting today, the United States will begin direct repatriations of Venezuelan nationals back to their home country.
00:08:25.000In fact, we have already identified individuals in our custody today who will be removed promptly in the coming days, a senior official said.
00:08:32.000Venezuelans make up a large share of border crossings and for years the U.S. has generally been unable to deport them because of frosty diplomatic relations with Venezuela.
00:08:40.000Mexico has agreed to take some, but it remains a difficult issue for the administration and for cities receiving migrants.
00:08:49.000The fact that they're saying Venezuelans and that they're communicating with the Venezuelan government to deport these people, that's so gross.
00:09:27.000Obama talked about it in 2013. They've all talked about it.
00:09:32.000Speaking of the voter ID thing, though, this is one thing that really made me crazy during COVID. For years, people on the left have been saying that voter ID laws are racist.
00:09:46.000I don't know if you've paid attention to this at all, but the argument is that black people, and especially poor black people, struggle to get IDs.
00:09:54.000It's never made much sense because you need an ID to buy a six-pack, you need an ID to open a bank account, you need an ID. It's just that all these normal things that people of all classes and races have to do.
00:10:07.000And then when, in New York City, during COVID, they implemented the policy that to get into any restaurant, any gym, anywhere in the city, you needed vax card plus ID. So me paying attention to the discourse for the past few years,
00:10:27.000I thought to myself, where is everyone on the left that said black people don't have IDs?
00:10:32.000Shouldn't they be calling this policy racist and saying that we are excluding all of the restaurants and gyms and so forth?
00:10:39.000To black people because you need vax card plus ID and black people can't get IDs?
00:10:59.000If you want to say something's racist, you could make a much better argument that vaccine mandates are racist.
00:11:06.000Because the majority, at least in the beginning of the COVID vaccine rollout, the majority of the people that were refusing it were African Americans and Latinos.
00:11:20.000Especially when you deal with the Tuskegee crisis, when you hear about the times in the past where medical interventions are specifically targeted or there's been like Evil shit that they've done specifically to black Americans,
00:11:58.000And they did make the argument that COVID itself was systemically racist because it was, at least in the beginning, it was disproportionately killing black people.
00:12:09.000I thought this was, again, this is a very simplistic way of thinking.
00:12:13.000I don't equate disparities with racism.
00:12:16.000But I noticed the Washington Post ran a story a few years later that maybe by 2022, COVID was disproportionately killing white people, right?
00:12:26.000Because the situations change and it's just very complicated, right?
00:12:30.000Very few things fall equally along every population in life.
00:12:34.000And I asked the question, okay, did systemic racism change its direction?
00:13:03.000There are many cancers that preferentially, some kill black people more often, some kill white people more often.
00:13:11.000If you look at the CDC charts, you'll just find every disease has its own profile.
00:13:15.000And rather than say, okay, this disease is racist because it has a disproportion, we should all back off the R word a little bit and realize that You know, these things are very complicated, multifactorial, and to reduce it all to racism is just very,
00:13:34.000you know, we've gotten into this thing where we have a hammer and everything looks like a nail, and the media knows that racism stories get clicks, so everything becomes about that.
00:13:44.000Yeah, it becomes a failure of mainstream media.
00:13:47.000And what you're talking about, about the need for clicks, that's a huge part of this failure, is that they rely on people paying attention.
00:13:57.000So to pay attention to a story, in order to be incentivized, it has to be something that outrages you or scares you.
00:14:07.000And so those are the things that they lead with.
00:14:54.000You've probably seen his skit where he takes footage of the BLM protests and the police brutality videos and he says, I give half of them to CNN and half of them to Fox.
00:15:52.000And that's part of what we're running into.
00:15:54.000And, you know, when it comes to the COVID deaths...
00:15:58.000I mean, so many factors were never discussed.
00:16:02.000And one of the big ones that seems to affect the African-American community more than other people is vitamin D deficiencies.
00:16:10.000The reason why there's so much melanin in African-American skin is because people in Africa deal with very hot climates and direct contact to sunlight.
00:16:18.000And so they have protection from that.
00:16:20.000The reason why people became white is because they moved to areas that are covered with clouds, like England.
00:16:26.000And it's not a fucking coincidence that people there are pale as paper.
00:16:30.000It's because they're basically a solar panel for vitamin D. Their body's trying to produce more vitamin D, and the way to do that is to produce less melanin.
00:16:39.000And my friend who was a doctor in New York City said that when he was a doctor and he would find sick people that would come to the hospital and he would test them for levels of vitamin D, he would find oftentimes undetectable levels of vitamin D in some African Americans who weren't supplementing.
00:18:58.000My friends that are very smart people really disagreed with the fact that I liked him.
00:19:04.000So I had to do a lot of soul searching about what it is that resonated with me, but not with...
00:19:12.000All of my, you know, intellectual and journalist colleagues that I tend to agree with about 90% of stuff.
00:19:19.000I really had to do some soul searching.
00:19:22.000And, you know, what I came out feeling was that...
00:19:27.000It wasn't that I agreed with RFK about every claim that he made.
00:19:31.000In fact, there are certain claims that he made that I double-checked that were flat-out wrong.
00:19:36.000It's that I felt the version of RFK portrayed in the mainstream media was a totally different person from the real RFK. And that there was a framing put around him that was so...
00:19:58.000So for example, if I told you, if I'm one of those people that was obsessed with getting fluoride out of the water, right, and that was my cause in life, as a journalist, what would you label me?
00:20:47.000So RFK Jr., you know, and I don't think he's right about this, but just as a matter of journalistic accuracy, his whole project with vaccines has been to take stuff out of the vaccines that he thinks is toxic, right?
00:21:00.000His most anti-vax quote-unquote book is Thimerosal, Let the Science Speak.
00:21:06.000He's trying to take the thimerosal out of vaccines, right?
00:21:10.000Now, if I were describing this guy, even if I disagreed with every word he said as a journalist, I would call him an antithimerosal.
00:21:30.000So the framing of him in the mainstream media as an anti-vaccine activist to me seemed already like not at all the framing an objective journalist would put on the issue even if he's wrong about the facts.
00:21:47.000And that clear bias in the treatment of him, rather than treating him like a normal politician and putting your perspective on it, putting this framing on him as a crazy guy,
00:22:04.000as a crackpot, I think that is really what rubbed me the wrong way about how so many people were treating him.
00:22:16.000Well, also, they don't understand his work before he became this vaccine skeptic or this person who discussed the apparent connection between some adverse events and some adverse effects and some vaccines.
00:22:33.000He started off as an environmental lawyer, and his work helped clean up the Hudson River.
00:24:02.000Some very bizarre correlation, not necessary causality, right?
00:24:07.000Because it's not really being openly studied in terms of like, it's not like...
00:24:14.000It's not being discussed in mainstream media.
00:24:16.000It's not something that's being discussed openly in universities and taught in schools and medical school.
00:24:21.000But there seems to be a rise in adverse effects and all sorts of issues that people are having once they started adding more vaccines to the rollout, which also happened right after they made these vaccines and the companies that manufacture them no longer liable for any adverse effects.
00:24:40.000And it's sketchy stuff because you can't talk about it.
00:24:44.000And whenever there's something that you can't talk about, it gets real weird because you can't just look at it and say, okay...
00:24:51.000What is actually going on objectively?
00:24:54.000Let's not signal to everyone that I'm on the side of science and I'm the side of reason and I'm on the side of, you know, what's best for the whole world.
00:25:07.000Let's just look at what is actually happening.
00:25:10.000And no one wants to do that because if you even just start dipping your toes in those waters, people are like, wait, what are you saying?
00:25:30.000What I'm saying is there are proven effects that mercury and aluminum have on human beings, particularly in their developmental stage, that seem to be detrimental.
00:25:54.000Because everyone's blood pressure rises when the topic comes up and we have that caveman instinct that we may get socially ostracized for something, right?
00:26:37.000And rather than really compassionately going into the evidence and saying, I'm going to go all the way down the rabbit hole with you.
00:26:46.000And as an expert, I'm not going to talk down to you, but I'm going to explain to you what I may know that you don't.
00:26:50.000And I'm going to go into it with an open mind, knowing that some vaccines have turned out to be unnecessary in the past.
00:26:57.000Some vaccines have caused damage in the past.
00:26:59.000Rather than make the whole area taboo and just making everyone feel like a non-person who's there, the best experts should shine a light on it.
00:27:10.000Really, they should shine a light on it.
00:27:12.000And then people wouldn't be necessarily running to a lawyer, an environmental lawyer, for their narratives about this issue.
00:27:21.000And I think that that's what happens when the expert class abandons a particular line of inquiry.
00:27:37.000There's clear incentives that are in place just based on the past, just based on the fact that people have been able to parlay these jobs, go from being a part of the FDA to being a part of Pfizer and being a part of all these other pharmaceutical drug companies.
00:27:53.000I don't know if he mentioned this specifically on your podcast, but I looked into this because of his book and talked about it on some other podcasts.
00:28:05.000Around 2000, the Rotashield, the rotavirus vaccine, seven of the 13 people responsible for approving that vaccine at the CDC and the FDA, Seven of 13, so a majority, had direct financial ties to companies that were producing that exact kind of vaccine right at the time.
00:28:24.000So you have to think to yourself, common sense.
00:29:28.000And they're not required by law at all to report their deliberations publicly.
00:29:37.000So, as an objective outsider, I would like to believe, I would like to believe that CDC and the FDA, I don't think they're evil people, I don't think they're lizard people, I think they're whatever.
00:29:48.000I would like to believe that they're making good decisions.
00:29:51.000But as a journalist, you have to be able to verify it, or else why should I trust?
00:29:56.000So if they're self-policing and not required to report, I think people should be...
00:30:03.000When Rand Paul is aggressively pressing Fauci about conflicts of interest in Congress, Journalists should be like, this guy's doing our job.
00:30:50.000The problem is when you look at the incredible amount of money that the pharmaceutical drug companies spend on advertising, They essentially have control of the narrative.
00:31:01.000Whether people are directly told not to discuss these things, it is most certainly on the table that they know that there'll be repercussions.
00:31:27.000But when they show how- It's captured by money.
00:31:33.000And when they show that they clearly knew that it's an opiate and they are addictive, and yet they somehow or another use the language many believe Or some believe.
00:32:43.000I know a few months ago the city of San Francisco, I believe, won a lawsuit against Walgreens for, it might have been hundreds of millions, I can check exactly.
00:32:56.000And in the report, in the discovery for the lawsuit, they were just talking about the sheer number of doctors who were found to be corruptly prescribing.
00:33:12.000It was a number that was so high that I remember thinking, I mean, how can a person that reads this really trust their doctor after reading this, right?
00:33:39.000So, my view of that book is that I don't jump to...
00:33:47.000RFK basically puts the worst possible interpretation of everything Fauci did.
00:33:53.000Kind of in the same way that Christopher Hitchens did with Bill Clinton, for example.
00:33:59.000When Bill Clinton bombed the Al-Shifa factory in Sudan that was said to have weapons, turned out to have medicine, turned out to have no link to Al-Qaeda, Hitchens wrote that he did this to distract the public from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
00:35:57.000Do you have enough evidence to say that publicly?
00:36:00.000And is it irresponsible to say that publicly?
00:36:04.000My take on it from clearly, obviously a non-scientist, is if I was a researcher and my education was in viruses, and specifically coronaviruses, I would be looking to do research on coronaviruses.
00:36:20.000And gain-of-function research is one way Whether it's dangerous or not in the Obama administration.
00:38:45.000Rabies is a disease that affects animals that makes them fearless and aggressive and makes them want to transmit that disease to you by biting you.
00:38:53.000And if you give it to human beings, it's like 100% fatal or 99% fatal.
00:38:59.000Unless you take care of it within a certain time period, And with animals, it's fatal.
00:39:04.000And, you know, they have to get rabies shots.
00:39:06.000It's one excellent example of how vaccines have really helped people.
00:39:11.000Vaccines have helped human beings avoid getting fucking rabies.
00:40:10.000So before the cordyceps mushrooms blow and the spores spray through the air and infect all the other ants, these ants recognize, oh, this motherfucker's got it.
00:41:53.000But what happens is, a body sends a signal, or the mind sends a signal to the body, or the system knows, that you're on your own now, motherfucker.
00:42:48.000Like so we know that We know these things are fucking dangerous, and if we're monkeying around with nature, but also we know that there have been medical interventions, there's been medical technology, there's been research that's done that's enhanced people's lives,
00:43:06.000saved people's lives, rescued people from fatal diseases, and to cast light on The entire pharmaceutical industry that it's like this horrible monster of a thing that's destroying lives.
00:43:19.000What it is, is a bunch of people that are, like you're saying, scientists who figure things out because it's cool and they get married to people who just want to make money.
00:43:33.000And there's a lot of psychos out there.
00:43:35.000And the psychos say, okay, we got this thing, and we're making X, but I think we can get to Z. We just got to get this guy to say this and this regulation to pass, and then we're in Z. And this guy is thinking himself doing coke off a stripper's ass on a yacht.
00:43:50.000He's not thinking of saving the world.
00:43:52.000But the scientists that are making all this stuff, they're just fucking scientists.
00:43:57.000And part of the problem with getting the money attached to the regulatory body and attached to the scientist is because then there's someone who doles out the funding.
00:44:06.000And maybe that guy is connected to the money side.
00:44:08.000And maybe that guy was actually a doctor.
00:44:10.000And now you've got this crazy situation where these doctors can't even tell the truth.
00:44:50.000Well, I think that the journalists, most of the journalists I know aren't necessarily captured themselves by money, but they may be captured by ideology and groupthink.
00:45:02.000So, for example, on the money end, I was astounded that it was not widely reported and that you have to get to someone like RFK Jr. to tell you this, that The NIAID had a financial stake in the Moderna vaccine.
00:45:19.000Yeah, how much money did they make off of it?
00:45:21.000One of the payments was like several hundred million dollars.
00:45:24.000Well, that's not enough to affect the way people think.
00:45:45.000So when I see the director of the NIEID, Anthony Fauci, former director...
00:45:52.000Talk about the Moderna vaccine, as a journalist, should my default be to trust everything he says because he's the government?
00:45:59.000Or should I say, he may be conflicted.
00:46:02.000Let's do what great journalism does and pressure test everything he says.
00:46:08.000Demand the documents on everything he says.
00:46:10.000And what he says may turn out to be right.
00:46:12.000I don't assume it's wrong, but that should be the job of mainstream journalists is to pressure test everything.
00:46:19.000When you don't do it, my point is it's left to the RFK Juniors of the world who end up getting certain things very wrong because they're one person.
00:46:31.000And so, for example, like I told you, I was really going through all the claims in RFK Juniors' book because some of them are just insane, turn out to be true.
00:46:40.000Some of them are insane, turn out not to be true.
00:47:44.000So if you're saying a study showed that, or if you're just saying the number and not saying where you're getting this information, Then it's he really shows every single one of his claims This is why I thought it was such a cop-out that that guy you were in a little Twitter spat with Oh Peter Hotez.
00:48:03.000Yeah, Peter Hotez If you if you're an expert on this and you have this guy that you're saying Total misinformation.
00:48:12.000Yeah, he's got every single one of the claims he made on your show in one of his books with a footnote and Peter Hotez, if this is his job and this is important to him, should absolutely spend the time.
00:48:25.000If you're saying that I'm an expert in this and this guy is dangerous for the world, you can't then say, well, I don't have time to go in his book and click on every footnote and showing receipts for why he's wrong about everything.
00:48:38.000That was a total cop-out of him to say, oh, this is not worth my time.
00:48:41.000You can't debate a conspiracy theorist.
00:48:47.000And, you know, let me tell you my history with Peter Hotez, because I met Peter Hotez in like 2012. I had him on an episode of Joe Rogan Questions Everything, and we were talking about viruses.
00:49:00.000And I found him to be a really fascinating, very intelligent man who's dedicated his life to trying to help people, specifically of tropical diseases.
00:49:12.000Because there's a real issue in tropical disease.
00:49:15.000He was telling me that people that live in tropical climates, the vast majority of them have some kind of parasites.
00:49:24.000And what he wanted to talk about was that.
00:49:28.000I think when COVID came along, there was this psychological angst that was overwhelming, even to people that are fairly good at keeping their shit together.
00:49:41.000I think of myself as someone who's pretty good at keeping my shit together.
00:49:44.000I don't freak out too much about things.
00:49:46.000And so with COVID, I was like, all right, well, I guess this is a real thing, and we're going to have to hole up in the house for a while, and two weeks to flatten the curve, and make sure we have food and power.
00:49:58.000You start thinking about things like, okay, if I needed to get food for my family, if I needed to get out of here, how much gas do I need?
00:50:08.000Where, like, okay, we're in an unprecedented state of the unknown and chaos, and this could get worse.
00:50:16.000Like, this virus could mutate into something that's just killing everybody.
00:50:21.000That level of anxiety prompts people to look for solutions that are very binary, and it prompts people to dig their heels into what their decision is to do this.
00:50:35.000Like, should we go into the basement in the horror movie, or should we get the fuck out of here?
00:50:40.000I think we should get the fuck out of here.
00:51:07.000And I think that was the feeling in the air.
00:51:10.000And I certainly felt that when CNN was saying I was taking horse dewormer, like when I was being attacked for taking out—when I said that I was taking monoclonal antibodies and IV vitamins and all these other things, too.
00:51:21.000I was just saying, this is what I took, and now I'm better.
00:52:05.000The worst thing about unvaccinated people dying because they didn't trust pharmaceutical drug companies that are captured by money and the media that is captured by them, their money and the regulatory, the fact that people were just unwilling to look at the big picture because they wanted that fucking solution.
00:52:25.000And I think when you're a person who's on the side of that solution, and you're genuinely doing work to try to solve real problems that people have with parasites and diseases and all these different things, and then you're getting attacked.
00:52:38.000And then it turns out that, man, maybe a lot of the shit you said wasn't right.
00:52:43.000Now you're kind of stuck, because you don't want to debate this.
00:52:46.000Because even though you probably did it for all the right reasons, You look at the actual effectiveness and whether or not it actually did what it was promised to do, it didn't do any of those things.
00:52:56.000And it did certainly cause some adverse problems in people that may or may not have had any problem with COVID. They might have gotten over it quickly like I did.
00:53:08.000And now you're in this situation where you kind of have to defend it all the time.
00:53:11.000And to go on a debate and talk about that, you would be so filled with anxiety.
00:53:18.000Because it brings us back to the decisions that people make during times of extreme crisis.
00:53:26.000We always want to think that the evil things that people have done in the past, false flag events and all these different things that people have done in the past, in order to start wars so that they can make more money.
00:53:43.000It's a childlike impulse that I personally experienced when I was a young boy.
00:53:48.000When I was a young boy, we were living in San Francisco, and my mom and my stepdad were hippies.
00:53:53.000And we lived in this very progressive, very hippie area.
00:54:00.000And when the Vietnam War ended, Everybody was so happy, and there was this feeling, and I said to myself, I remember saying, oh, this is so good, there's not going to be any wars.
00:55:06.000Well, first of all, I wish I knew how they didn't know that those people are going to do that.
00:55:10.000Because I don't want to talk about intelligence, because I don't know what I'm talking about.
00:55:15.000So if I start saying that the government...
00:55:19.000That they would have had the capability to make sure that none of those things took place, and that they had infiltrated these organizations, and they did get accurate information from that, and they were aware...
00:55:33.000That would just be complete armchair speculation from someone who's not qualified.
00:55:37.000I can give you what the leading theory is of how the hell this happened.
00:55:52.000First, Hamas has been planning this attack for two years.
00:55:56.000And one of the leaders of Hamas actually said that they've been strategically lulling Israel to sleep by making it seem like they're no longer interested in a conflict the past two years.
00:56:08.000And Israel even just a week before the attack allowed more Gazans to come over the border and work in Israel as basically a reward for good behavior.
00:56:21.000They thought Hamas has gone into this mode where they're more concerned about the economics of the Gaza Strip than about attacking Israel.
00:56:44.000They've had the biggest protests in a generation, almost the same way America was during 2020. Israel has been for the past several months over their judicial reform.
00:57:08.000They don't have this kind of really beautiful genius system of checks and balances that we have where, you know, the president can veto the Congress and the Supreme Court has a check on everyone, right?
00:57:21.000And everyone keeps each other in check.
00:57:23.000Israel just has a single parliament they call the Knesset, a prime minister that has a lot of control over that parliament because he leads the majority coalition.
00:57:33.000So basically, in Israel, the president and their Congress have a lot more power than in America, historically.
00:57:40.000The Supreme Court doesn't have the power to say no to them.
00:57:45.000But over the past 30 years, the Supreme Court has been basically grabbing more power for itself under these things called basic laws, where they can now say to the Knesset, no, you cannot implement that policy in the West Bank.
00:58:02.000They have more powers to check the majority party.
00:58:08.000And that's come to a head now because the Supreme Court is perceived as left-wing and sympathetic to the Palestinians.
00:58:18.000Just like in America right now, the Supreme Court is perceived as right-wing.
00:58:23.000And Benjamin Netanyahu is obviously Likud, he's the right-wing party, and he's gone into coalition with these ultra kind of right-wing religious And so it's come to a head where basically the right in Israel feels that the Supreme Court is just expanding its own power and is anti-democratic.
00:58:46.000Judicial reform is basically stripping the Supreme Court of the power it's grabbed for itself over the past 30 years.
00:58:52.000Now the left in Israel views the Supreme Court as the only protection against human rights violations and the violations of Minority rights.
00:59:02.000So the left feels the Supreme Court is a great defender of Israeli human rights, and the right feels that the Supreme Court is an undemocratic institution that's been expanding its own power for 30 years and now needs to be reined in so that the majority can govern.
00:59:21.000It's absolutely the number one issue every day, protests all over Israel.
00:59:26.000So you put all this together with Hamas backed by Iran, and you also throw in the fact that Israel and Saudi Arabia are on the verge of a peace deal, which is huge.
00:59:38.000It would be the biggest news in the Middle East in a very long time if Israel and Saudi Arabia made peace.
00:59:44.000It would basically put kind of the death nail in the coffin for Hamas because Saudi Arabia is the biggest holdout now in terms of who has not made peace with Israel.
00:59:57.000So Hamas, from the point of view of Hamas and Iran, they think this is a last chance, kind of.
01:00:06.000We have to attack now, kill this deal, or we're dead forever.
01:00:10.000And they planned this thing meticulously for two years, intentionally lulling the Israelis to sleep.
01:00:17.000And they have brilliant success, much more success than they expected to.
01:00:23.000Now, some people have said it's an inside job.
01:00:27.000I think if it is, we'll know that from reporting that comes out in the next two years.
01:00:35.000But at this point, I believe the theory that it was an incredibly successful attack by Hamas and a perfect storm.
01:00:42.000Well, that all connects and makes sense, if that's the case.
01:00:48.000What's always terrified me about the Middle East is that there doesn't seem to be a clear way to resolve this.
01:00:53.000I mean if Saudi Arabia and Iran or rather Israel came to some sort of an agreement and made peace and were able to establish that long term, That'd be a great step in the right direction.
01:01:05.000But other than that, like when you look at what's happened now, oh my God, the rhetoric from both sides, it's just, didn't we learn anything from World War II? Didn't we learn anything from the Holocaust?
01:01:23.000Human beings' ability to other human beings, to just turn them into a thing that's not them, dehumanize them, and that there's this impulse to do so that existed forever because when we were tribal people that probably barely had a language,
01:01:40.000you had to be absolutely terrified of marauding male tribes that came over your border and wanted to kill you and take your resources and steal your women.
01:01:50.000And so we have this ability to look at other human beings as an other and get ruthless and horrifyingly violent because that was the only way for us to survive for thousands of years.
01:02:55.000Because the thing that we are scared of the most is global thermonuclear war.
01:03:01.000The thing that everybody should be the most terrified of.
01:03:03.000That we get so stupid that we wipe every human being off the face of the planet and we're more than capable of doing it some insane number of times over.
01:03:30.000Every single nation that's involved in every conflict and all these people controlling resources over a group of gigantic people with their their representative and they're saying these people are the bad people and they're saying you're the bad people.
01:03:44.000It's just like human beings have always done.
01:03:49.000So I agree with you that we are built and hardwired for deep levels of violence.
01:03:59.000Those of us that have been lucky enough to live in safety and security, we may not realize the violence we're capable of because we've never had to survive.
01:04:35.000Now, I don't know if you or most of your listeners feel this way about Israel, but I do.
01:04:40.000I think that in this situation, Israel is the good guy and Hamas is the evil guy.
01:04:47.000I think some people feel Hamas is just acting like anyone would if you had taken their land and their freedom fighters that go a little bit overboard.
01:05:01.000I think they are a death cult that really believes what they write in their charter in the late 80s, that they want to annihilate every single Jew in Israel and replace it with an Islamic State and eventually have a state like ISIS. And that what they did on October 7th with the,
01:05:22.000you know, the barbaric slaughter I think?
01:05:43.000If Israel wanted to annihilate Hamas and the Palestinians the same way Hamas wants to annihilate Israel, Hamas would be gone and there would be no Palestinians in Gaza.
01:05:53.000We know that Israel could obliterate them overnight.
01:06:52.000So this has been going on the past 48 hours.
01:06:55.000Basically what happened is the entire media, the Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas, said that Israel just bombed a hospital and killed 500 people.
01:07:38.000Then it turned out, actually, most likely, it actually turned out 100% the hospital wasn't bombed.
01:07:46.000It was the parking lot next to the hospital.
01:07:48.000So that was the first inaccuracy in the story.
01:07:50.000Then it turned out it's very, very unlikely to be an Israeli airstrike and was almost certainly not a Hamas rocket, but a Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
01:08:00.000This is the other Palestinian terror group in Gaza.
01:09:02.000So then all the New York Times, BBC, they all started slowly changing their headlines from 500 killed in Israeli airstrike to 500 killed in blast to, you know, at this point they may be saying parking lot next to hospital killed only 50 to 100 people.
01:09:20.000This is still an evolving story and we're talking on Thursday.
01:09:24.000So it didn't actually hit the hospital itself?
01:09:26.000It hit the parking lot next to the hospital and did damage to the hospital?
01:09:30.000The latest is that the hospital is still standing and it was only the parking lot next to the hospital and a bunch of cars may have exploded as well.
01:09:43.000The next day they took pictures in the hospitals there.
01:09:46.000I thought they had photos of the hospital that was bombed out.
01:09:49.000The New York Times, when they reported it first, they showed a picture of a different place in Gaza that was destroyed by an Israeli airstrike, not the hospital.
01:10:00.000So this is now, you know, I think there's an emerging consensus that it was a parking lot, probably not 500 people, probably more like 50 or 100, which is, again, tragic.
01:14:51.000That's what we have to all understand.
01:14:55.000You can have these utopian perspectives of how you think the world should be.
01:15:00.000And I side with a lot of what they think about the inequality of the world.
01:15:05.000I just have different solutions than them.
01:15:07.000My solution is not redistribution of wealth.
01:15:10.000My solution is figure out what's wrong with communities and rebuild them.
01:15:13.000The fact that we have these impoverished communities and that we've never spent any like real engineering and money to try to solve these crises that have led to so many people coming out of these places and just being fucked from the jump.
01:15:26.000And having no examples of people living good lives, no examples of people that aren't involved in crime, and just being swarmed by negativity and bad influences constantly.
01:15:36.000And the fact that we expect these people to rise past that is complete and total insanity.
01:15:41.000And almost always perpetrated by people that just like you were talking about people that have experienced peace most of their life, they have no idea that violence is inside of them or what violence really is.
01:15:51.000It's people that grew up where they really never had to worry about money.
01:15:55.000Maybe they weren't rich, but they weren't starving to death.
01:15:57.000They didn't have to worry about someone shooting them every day or killing their parents when they were on the way home from working or whatever the fuck the problem was.
01:16:06.000But for a large percentage of what we supposedly think of as a community, which is the United States, we should think of ourselves as a big community.
01:16:18.000It's like there's places that are just fucked, and we have to do something to fix that.
01:16:23.000If you don't do something to fix that, you're gonna keep this disparity.
01:16:27.000You're gonna keep this problem, and the problem is far more...
01:16:30.000It's more solvable than so many other things that we try to tackle.
01:16:35.000Like, we're trying to figure out how to cool the earth down.
01:16:38.000Like, that's great too, but let's fucking figure out how to make the country a better place.
01:16:47.000Instead of just saying that rich people are the problem.
01:16:51.000There's a lot of problems with rich people.
01:16:53.000There's a lot of problems with influence.
01:16:55.000There's a lot of problems with people that have the ability to change laws and people that have the ability to sell you things that they know will kill you.
01:17:03.000They know we're going to kill a certain number of you, and they can still sell them to you.
01:17:06.000They can just say, hey, some may believe it's not addictive.
01:17:15.000People like to throw money at every problem, but they don't love to see how the money is being spent.
01:17:22.000So, for example, we could use Hamas as the example.
01:17:27.000So much money has been thrown at the Gaza Strip, and they use it, instead of to build buildings and build water pipes, they dig up the water pipes and build rockets to go to Israel, right?
01:17:45.000They have a video, one of their own propaganda videos, where they show themselves doing this.
01:17:52.000Billions of dollars has been thrown by Europe, by America at helping the Gazans because they are living in conditions that are indescribably horrible.
01:18:10.000But they're living under a terrorist party that actually doesn't care whether they live or die, because any Palestinian that dies from an Israeli airstrike, they go straight to heaven, according to Hamas.
01:18:26.000So Hamas, and they genuinely believe this.
01:18:28.000This is why I think people in the West, they don't remember what it's like to truly believe in religion because the West has been pretty much secularized at this point outside of some pockets.
01:18:40.000People that still believe in religion really believe it.
01:18:43.000Like during the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranians, they would send 13-year-old, 12-year-old boys over to be cannon fodder.
01:18:53.000They would throw them at Saddam Hussein and they would give them a key around their necks.
01:19:59.000Rejection of organized religion and this sort of because the atmosphere that most of these academics exist in most media people exist in and most people that live in big cities exist in is that there's a sort of kind of Wholesale dismissiveness that's attached to organized religion.
01:20:19.000And so because of that, they don't have the context, much like people that have never experienced violence, don't have the context of violence.
01:20:27.000When I see people talking about openly advocating for military interventions, things like, who?
01:21:34.000So if you're dealing with someone who comes, or a group of people that, basically a cult that perpetuates that kind of mindset, that raises people You know, the older brother raises his younger brother to believe that from day one,
01:22:11.000A person who might have very dire circumstances otherwise, like the world around them is very bleak, but you connect them to this group of people that are also committed to this quest that they believe is righteous and in God's will,
01:22:30.000that God wants this to take place and that this is their directive on earth.
01:23:01.000There's a hive mind aspect to human beings that just can't be ignored.
01:23:07.000Because we don't want to be ostracized socially.
01:23:09.000We don't want to be kicked out of the tribe.
01:23:12.000So we're terrified of stepping out of line.
01:23:14.000And so when you Or in a terrible situation, you're much more likely to believe that someone put you there.
01:23:24.000You're much more likely to believe that there's an oppressor.
01:23:27.000You're much more likely to believe that that person's taking from you.
01:23:31.000If that's what you're told from the time you were young, and you're told that the solution is to become a martyr and you're going to get to go to heaven, you can talk people into that with no options.
01:23:51.000Once people have already been down that path.
01:23:54.000I think most of the solutions have been missed.
01:23:58.000I think that's the hard truth, that the land was partitioned between an Israel and Palestinian state in 1947. The Palestinians rejected the partition and attacked, and that was the War of Independence.
01:24:16.000That was an opportunity for a solution.
01:24:18.000There's an opportunity when it was occupied by Jordan and Egypt for them to create a Palestinian state.
01:24:24.000But it wasn't in their interest, so they didn't do it.
01:24:27.000There was an opportunity in 2000 was the closest opportunity when Yasser Arafat and Ehud Barak met at Camp David with Clinton and Arafat walked away.
01:24:41.000And the difference between now and then is that Israeli society is now moving more and more to the right.
01:24:48.000And what that means in Israel is less and less are they seeking a two-state solution compared to 2000 or 2008 when two-state solutions were offered.
01:25:00.000And part of the reason Israeli society is moving to the right is because the ultra-Orthodox, or what we call Hasidic often in America, in New York they have communities in Brooklyn, They have, you know,
01:25:16.000they have six kids per family, something like that.
01:25:20.000And so they started out as a tiny minority in Israel 75 years ago.
01:25:25.000And now a third, a third of kids under a certain age, might be 18, are ultra-Orthodox.
01:25:34.000They're generally more pro-settling the West Bank, anti-two-state solution.
01:25:39.000So I fear that the Palestinian side rejected the only options, the only times that they were offered a state, and that those offers are not going to be forthcoming again in the future because of how Israeli society is changing.
01:25:56.000And so it's a very grim situation because it seems like there's no solution that does not involve horrible bloodshed.
01:26:11.000That's another thing that people need to look at.
01:26:14.000They need to stop this idea that there's good guys and bad guys because there's things that people do when the other side is the enemy that are absolutely horrific on both sides.
01:26:38.000And when you're dealing with a group of people that want you dead, and you want them dead, they do horrible things.
01:26:44.000Like Abby Martin, who was on my podcast, talked about her experience.
01:26:48.000Going back and forth from Israel to Palestine, how scary it was talking to people that had been shot by soldiers and people shot in the dick on purpose and crazy shit.
01:28:26.000I think that is, to your point, a fantasy standard that...
01:28:33.000Outsiders who've never had to get their hands dirty to survive.
01:28:39.000But obviously, it's a standard we should ideally want to hold people to.
01:28:43.000We should encourage the world's armies to behave better.
01:28:48.000But if a country is going to wage a just war, if you're going to say, you have the right to wage war in this situation, I don't think that can be revoked the second you find a soldier that does something horrible.
01:29:29.000And, you know, I wish I knew more about the history of that conflict to see if there's any way that they could change the way they interact with each other, but I just don't.
01:29:44.000So it's just one of those things where you just see it playing out and you feel so helpless.
01:29:50.000Sometimes at nighttime, I think about Ukraine and Russia, and I think about what's going on right now with Israel and Palestine, and I get so terrified.
01:29:59.000I get so terrified of the possibility of it just going off the rails and then nukes being on the table.
01:30:50.000I bet if someone did something today with a nuclear bomb, history would look at it the same way we look at every other thing that takes place over long periods of time.
01:31:00.000Oh, then there was an invention of the wheel and then X amount of years later they put a fucking gun on top of that thing and started mowing people down.
01:31:23.000Are we waiting for this fucking stupid game, this chess game, to reach a point where it's checkmate?
01:31:30.000Reach a point where someone flips the table over?
01:31:33.000Because if you're dealing with people that aren't afraid to die and you're dealing with people that are willing to kill everyone that opposes them because they genuinely think they're doing the will of God, they get a hold of a nuke.
01:31:47.000If they're willing to kill, I've always said this, how many people is it acceptable to kill in one shot?
01:31:53.000If you say they bombed and killed thousands, well that number seems to be reasonable for us.
01:31:59.000We're like, well, thousands of people died in 9-11 too and that sucks and that's really awful that thousands of people are dying.
01:32:05.000But if someone dumps a nuke and it kills a million people instantly, is that more horrific?
01:32:14.000To them, to us, it scares the shit out of us because of mutually assured destruction.
01:32:19.000But is that more horrific to someone who really believes they're doing the right thing?
01:32:23.000If it's okay to kill a thousand people...
01:32:25.000No, look, if you're like Thanos, this is why Thanos was such an amazing villain, is because you could see deep in his mind he felt he was a monk.
01:32:32.000Like a monk for good, and that he had to snap half the universe out of existence to save the world.
01:32:44.000When people talk about eugenics, if you were not a human being, if you were raising an animal and you wanted to do a very specific task, like dogs, for instance, you don't let the ones that are fucked up breed.
01:32:58.000So you could see how someone who has no sense of humanity and no compassion for human beings that are unfortunate, you could see how they would say, well, you've got to kill them.
01:33:07.000It's a creepy, scary conclusion to what your problem, your solution is.
01:33:15.000But you could see how a sociopath or a psychopath would go in that direction.
01:33:20.000We're going to have bottom-up eugenics very soon.
01:33:23.000As opposed to top-down eugenics being the government deciding who gets to procreate and not based on racist ideas or anything like that.
01:33:31.000We're going to have very soon, like I think easily within the next three years, a You know, you and your wife getting a bunch of embryos, 15 or 20 embryos,
01:33:48.000doing polygenic analysis on those embryos and telling you which ones are going to turn out taller, which ones are going to turn out smarter, which ones are going to turn out less likely to be depressed.
01:33:58.000If you have a history of schizophrenia in your family, we can tell you that correlates with this set of genes and this one's less likely.
01:34:06.000So you're scoring your own embryos, which people already do.
01:34:10.000But now they just score it based on what's the biggest embryo, which is...
01:34:31.000They have some reason, but they're going to get very precise with it very soon because of polygenic analysis.
01:34:37.000Well, and then there's CRISPR, which they've already used in China, and they supposedly jailed the scientists that did it.
01:34:43.000What they were saying they were doing is they were doing something with a gene to make people impervious to AIDS. But what really was going on is they were making them smarter.
01:34:57.000Yeah, see where you find that, because I know I butchered that.
01:34:59.000If you're a scientist out there, sorry.
01:35:19.000Guys, we're just trying to kill this thing that doesn't really kill any people anymore.
01:35:22.000New research suggests that a controversial gene-editing experiment to make children resistant, not even immune, resistant to HIV, may have also enhanced their ability to learn and form memories.
01:35:42.000Look, if you're a parent, after your kid is born, you're going to spend...
01:35:49.000Who knows how many thousands of dollars?
01:35:50.000If you send them to private school, you can send them $20,000 a year for some fancy private school to make them smarter and happier.
01:35:58.000But you wouldn't invest a little time at the beginning and effort at the beginning to make them smarter?
01:36:04.000Right, especially if it only costs like a couple hundred bucks or something like that.
01:36:08.000I get that one is icky and sci-fi, but if you remove that element of it and just look at it for what it is, if it's reliable, why would I not want to make my kids smarter?
01:36:18.000Smarter people live longer, they're happier, etc.
01:36:46.000But actually, you know, there is a, I don't know if you've seen this, that one of the smartest guys in the world, IQ-wise, is like a crazy white supremacist.
01:36:57.000Yeah, he has like a 190 or something IQ. Wait a minute, are you talking about that guy, they did a documentary on him back in the day, the smartest man in the world, he was a bouncer?
01:37:42.000They've likened him to Alex Jones with a thesaurus.
01:37:46.000Langan, now in his 60s, has been a curiosity for nearly 25 years, a man who has clocked his own IQ somewhere north of 190. Albert Einstein wasn't quite there, apparently, who has mostly worked as a bouncer in a bar, never attained any significant professional roles or published any serious academic work.
01:38:03.000He's been the subject of several profiles from Esquire magazine to Malcolm Gladwell.
01:38:16.000Like, when you hear him talk, he's obviously able to, like, retain an incredible amount of information in his brain.
01:38:24.000But over the years, it says in this article, but over the years, he has garnered a following that overlaps considerably with fans of the far-right internet content.
01:39:04.000Inviting the interest of all right, but by the way I've read that about me and writers who subscribe to the belief that IQ is racially determined and a sign of racial superiority Okay, look what he's saying though.
01:39:20.000It's saying he's inviting the interest of people who believe and writers who subscribed to the belief that IQ is racially determined and a sign of racial superiority.
01:39:32.000It's saying that people who like him think something fucked up.
01:39:36.000One of Langen's posts, an obituary for the intelligent gorilla Coco, wherein Langen suggested the U.S. would do better to admit African guerrillas as refugees than African people, was praised by the Daily Stormer, the neo-Nazi blog.
01:40:25.000Yeah, if it's such a problem, why don't...
01:40:27.000But, this is why at the end of the day, there's no substitute for just listening to the person, the words out of their mouth and making up your own mind.
01:40:35.000I don't know if that guy has a 190 IQ, but he's obviously very intelligent.
01:43:02.000Because I don't like the way they were framing all the things before that, where they're saying that people who also believe this like him.
01:43:12.000Like, if the guy's got a substack that has 100,000 followers, and you find 1,000 white supremacists, and you say, some people like that believe that Jews should be exterminated, like, come on.
01:44:20.000Or what we can do with CRISPR is, by a significant margin, increase his ability to memorize things, and you'd go, oh, yeah, what do I have to do?
01:46:46.000So when you have bow-hunting journals in America, bow-hunting journals in America where there's magazines and stuff, people hold up pictures of a white-tailed deer that they're going to eat.
01:46:56.000It's like, oh, we got venison for dinner tonight, and look at this beautiful buck that we harvested.
01:47:02.000In Australia, some of the magazines hold up dead cats, too.
01:47:07.000Like, look, we got rid of this motherfucker.
01:47:38.000Now the cat's the bad guy, and you can shoot him and take pictures of him.
01:47:41.000So, as a question, if we, through gene editing, get rid of schizophrenia, does that also dial the clock down on creativity in general a bit?
01:48:53.000His brain, the same thing that makes him blurt out things that are questionable and you probably shouldn't have said it, that same brain is responsible for an insane amount of art.
01:50:29.000One thing I've noticed about people as I've gotten a little older is that if a strategy has been working for someone their entire life, they're not going to get to 50 years old or 40 years old and suddenly change it when it stops working.
01:50:46.000So, if you're Kanye, you're a random kid from Chicago, and you became like a decent producer, but like everyone else, you came to New York with big dreams and you didn't get noticed for a while.
01:50:59.000And then the second you did get noticed, the second you tried to rap, everyone told you you were crazy.
01:51:03.000And not just everyone, the top experts of rap in hip-hop, right?
01:51:08.000Jay-Z's record label, the people that would most know, say, look, Kanye, you're a good producer, but take it from us.
01:51:47.000So a guy for whom that strategy has been working, he's just been calling his shot like Babe Ruth over and over again and getting it every time against the odds.
01:51:58.000He's not going to wake up at 45 years old and when people say, you can't vote for Trump, he's going to say, Yeah, actually, I should listen to them this time.
01:52:18.000I think it's precisely connected to his extreme success of all the ventures that were supposed to fail, that had you put anyone else at the helm, they would have failed.
01:52:50.000Because it's worked for him his whole life.
01:52:53.000And so I think the point is, the flaws people point out in these people, they may be genuine flaws, but they are the flip side of the coin of their success.
01:53:08.000And, you know, I think when people get in a situation like...
01:53:15.000We've never seen a person get in a situation like Kanye, where he was one of the biggest entertainers on the planet Earth, if not the biggest.
01:53:24.000And then all of a sudden becomes persona non grata.
01:53:28.000That's never really happened before like that.
01:54:25.000I forget what he was doing, but he had this idea in his head that he had this, this was bad for black people and we want to make it change into this thing.
01:54:41.000That motherfucker will put out a new album and it'll be a banger.
01:54:43.000Everyone will listen to it and for most people all will be forgiven, especially, I think people will give him a pass because of mental illness.
01:54:50.000I don't think he'll be canceled forever.
01:55:24.000I do remember there was one week where people considered not listening to Michael Jackson, and then everyone at the same time was like, ah, it's too good.
01:58:05.000But there are people right now that for expressing pro-Hamas beliefs are being, you know, there's companies saying we're never going to hire you to college kids.
01:58:18.000There's all kinds of stuff like this is going on where I'm totally against it.
01:58:24.000I think people should be absolutely free to make these stupid arguments and we should inform them.
01:58:43.000If some guy says he's into ISIS and he wants to work for your company, you would say, hey, I'm not going to hire you because you have decided that you're pro-Taliban.
01:59:04.000You know, my friend Noam Dorman, who owns a comedy cellar, he says that he has people working in his kitchen.
01:59:12.000This guy, both his parents are from Israel, very pro-Israel.
01:59:17.000It's actually the most important issue to him in life, perhaps.
01:59:23.000He has people working in his kitchen from the Middle East that believe all the propaganda, all the anti-Semitic propaganda that they've been fed, that many people in the Arab world are fed.
01:59:34.000They believe the Jews are controlling the media, the Jews are everything, right?
01:59:40.000And maybe some of them are even happy about the Hamas attack.
01:59:45.000But he says as long as they keep their politics out of work, they don't alienate customers and we treat each other with respect, I'm not going to say I'd fire you or I wouldn't hire you.
01:59:59.000That's a very beautiful and Jesus-like way of approaching the world.
02:00:03.000Yeah, but I think ideally it should be more and more the way we approach the world because I don't think you persuade people by persecuting them.
02:00:16.000The difference between that and someone holding beliefs because they came from a particular part of the world is very different from someone going out on the street And yelling it, holding up banners and flags,
02:00:34.000And that is what someone might do at a protest.
02:00:40.000So if you were at a pro-ISIS protest and you were screaming about ISIS's caliphate and that this is the just way of life and this is what God wants, I probably don't want you working at Subway.
02:00:53.000You're probably not going to be the dude I want to be making sandwiches next to.
02:00:56.000If I'm hiring at an auto repair shop and this guy thinks he's going to be a martyr if he blows himself up, maybe I'm not going to hire that guy.
02:01:05.000Maybe I'm not going to hire the guy that thinks that it's okay to talk little kids into wearing a fucking vest and walking into a school.
02:01:19.000And this is part of what's happening with diversity, equity, and inclusion statements, is that all over the country there are these jobs, professorships at universities, where in order to be hired, you have to sign and say, I support diversity, equity, inclusion, and a long paragraph of values you may not hold.
02:01:39.000Why should I need to sign on to that to be hired to teach math?
02:01:52.000Yeah, I mean, it is a slippery slope, right?
02:01:54.000I mean, if you were a Catholic and you would not hire Baptists, because Baptists were fools, you only believe in hiring Catholics, that would get weird, you know?
02:02:04.000But we're okay in that sense that most people of differing Christian persuasions are comfortable with each other.
02:02:13.000Lutherans are comfortable around Methodists, and they look at Baptists the same way they look at Catholics.
02:03:14.000I mean, when I went to Belfast, Northern Ireland, for a UFC once, there's cars, police cars, that are covered with like steel plates to bomb-proof them.
02:03:29.000And the people that live there, there's people that are there right now that still remember the IRA and they remember all the bombings and the terrorists and the horrible things that people from both sides of Ireland did to each other.
02:03:45.000They're two totally different countries.
02:03:46.000Northern Ireland's a completely different country than Ireland because of that and a lot of it was wrapped up in religion.
02:03:55.000I mean, we don't want to think that that could happen.
02:03:58.000But whenever you have this thing where you're against someone who's not on your team, that could take place.
02:04:05.000You could have a peaceful coexistence like Baptists do with Methodists.
02:05:02.000It's an interesting and pretty verified result, I think, at this point that conservatives tend to be happier than liberals, less mental illness, and the religious tend to be happier than the secular.
02:05:13.000So then the question becomes, why is that?
02:05:16.000Is it because they believe in religion?
02:05:19.000Or is it explained by a third variable?
02:05:24.000Is it that religious people have communities, they have somewhere to go to where they see familiar faces every Sunday, and atheists lack that, or they don't have it automatically?
02:05:35.000Well, that's certainly a factor, right?
02:05:44.000And one of the things you see in primarily secular places, like if you think about New York City, there's so many people, but yet they're not friends with each other.
02:05:54.000And they're all stacked on top of each other.
02:05:55.000I was talking to my friend Jim Norton the other day.
02:05:57.000He's like, I've lived next door to my neighbor for 10 years.
02:06:08.000I've had culture shock when I've come to the South because I grew up in North Jersey right outside of New York and I didn't realize that until I came to the South, until I hung out in Florida and even the Midwest, that people in the Northeast aren't as nice.
02:06:26.000My primary theory for why people are so wild on the East Coast, because they are wild and aggressive, is because those are the ancestors of the people that fucking came across on boats.
02:06:36.000They were people that took a crazy chance.
02:06:51.000We think of New York City as metropolitan.
02:06:53.000It used to be a horrible, crime-ridden, murderous place to be.
02:06:58.000And at the turn of the century, when people were coming over here from Europe, the people that came here from all parts of the world, those people came from somewhere that sucked and they had a wild, crazy chance to try to make it in America.
02:07:10.000It was probably very aggressive and it was during the time of the Depression.
02:07:15.000So you're dealing with really fucking scared people and really desperate people.
02:07:21.000And you're dealing with a very aggressive culture.
02:07:25.000And then a lot of people are like, fuck this, I'm going west.
02:07:30.000They just kept going until on the west coast of the country, whether it's because of the entertainment industry or whether it's because of the amazing climate.
02:07:39.000I think there's a combination of those two.
02:07:42.000That became the most progressive, the least aggressive, the most open-minded.
02:07:49.000When I used to hear about fighters coming from California, I'd be like, how good could he be?
02:07:55.000That's what I used to think when I was a kid.
02:07:57.000I was thinking, you're going to get a good fighter, they're all going to come out of the cities.
02:08:00.000They're all going to come out of places where there's a lot of hardship and people are pushing shove and you're going to get your ass kicked at school all the time.
02:08:08.000And then you get a few dudes that grew up in the South That lived, you know, in like hardscrabble neighborhoods, coal mining communities, they were badasses too.
02:08:17.000There's the hobos like Jack Dempsey, the dudes who rode the fucking railroad trains, and just hard men who did hard jobs, and they were scary too.
02:09:53.00020 feet away from each other, just absolutely insane way of living.
02:10:00.000And from there I learned that the Empire State Building was supposed to be a parking spot for a blimp or a dirigible, whatever it's called technically.
02:10:26.000And then they tried to park a blimp, but they didn't even build it to really work or be practical.
02:10:31.000It was just a pretext for why they needed to get higher than the Chrysler building.
02:10:36.000There is a picture of, I don't know if it's a real picture or if it was kind of the blueprint of the Empire State Building with a blimp parked there.
02:10:46.000Hold that thought because I really have to pee.
02:11:57.000It was a dream where instead of having one insanely innovative person like Nikola Tesla, there was a thousand of them or a million of them.
02:13:04.000Instead of one of those guys, have a shit ton of them.
02:13:09.000We are often driven by a few mad geniuses that have, just through their own creativity, and Tesla's very unusual with his creativity because he talked about how he was kind of like I don't think he was saying aliens,
02:13:27.000but he was saying that he was receiving this information from somewhere else.
02:15:29.000And ultimately, that leads to us creating AI. And this is where we find ourselves.
02:15:34.000And we find ourselves in this weird situation like, okay, who's in control of AI? And if someone really does invent a better form of AI and uses it to hijack the economic system, to hijack Who knows?
02:15:48.000You have insane amounts of power if you have an insane mind and the ability to innovate far beyond the capabilities of the human mind.
02:15:57.000Some people have been arguing, I think they're probably right, that the safest way to build AI is to have lots of people build it separately because then no one AI will be decentralized.
02:16:20.000We're going to make you put the seatbelt on.
02:16:24.000To have multiple parties at the same time all over the world doing AI... It may guarantee or may help ensure that no one of them becomes so powerful that they exist unopposed by others.
02:16:40.000Well, it would be very irresponsible if you were a superpower and you didn't do work with AI. Yeah.
02:16:46.000And China does or Russia does or Iran does.
02:17:01.000Sometimes the smartest people in the world don't have common sense.
02:17:05.000Well, they would like the international scientific community to get on board with that, but they don't have that option in certain parts of the world.
02:17:14.000And when it's something like AI, something that does have the power to radically transform everything that we see around us and is probably doing it right now with algorithms that manipulate people's perspectives on all sorts of things.
02:17:29.000How much of the Twitter beef with the bots and all that stuff?
02:17:32.000How many of those fake accounts are being run by AI? How many of them are being generated by programs?
02:17:38.000I would assume at this point, it's not zero.
02:18:11.000That are having people argue with people, like constantly, all the time.
02:18:14.000I'm sure you've seen when someone will highlight some sort of a tweet about a particular thing, and then you put that tweet in a search engine and you will see thousands of people tweeting the exact same thing.
02:19:27.000So all the, you know, the hateful rhetoric and all the, you know, all that stuff run by people who are just trying to get people angry at each other.
02:19:35.000Now, I will say that said, I love GPT-4.
02:21:32.000And I think it was a part of our history before it was ever written.
02:21:38.000We are going to make a better version of ourselves.
02:21:42.000And one of the things we're going to do first is create some sort of sentient intelligence that might...
02:21:47.000Sentient intelligence that may or may not be physical.
02:21:52.000It may exist only in terms of running programs, but it's going to be smarter than us.
02:21:59.000And one day, someone's going to put that in a physical object.
02:22:02.000Or one day, we're going to allow that thing into our own brains.
02:22:07.000We're going to develop some sort of an ability to utilize that and a universal language would be one of the quickest things that it could do.
02:22:14.000So it would change the way people communicate with each other because there would be no longer, neither a cultural boundary nor a language boundary.
02:22:23.000You'll be able to understand the way a person thinks based on their actual thoughts.
02:22:29.000Versus the rhetoric and what they're thinking and saying might be two different things.
02:22:33.000But you'll be able to recognize that instantaneously.
02:22:46.000We're going to change what we are fundamentally, and it may overall be the thing that saves us, because if we truly can understand that we are all connected and we are all the same thing, and that the only thing that separates us is where we were from,
02:23:05.000how we grew up, who we were influenced by, what our genes are, what our environment is, all these variables, but the core of what we are is just human beings.
02:23:16.000And maybe through a universal language and an ability to communicate universally, like across no boundaries, no boundaries for expression, no boundaries for understanding, no misconstrued things, no things taken out of context,
02:23:31.000the ability to recognize the actual thing And you to be able to recognize what you are, too, because people will confront you.
02:23:39.000Like, the people that read your thoughts and know your mind will be able to show you the error.
02:23:45.000It'll be almost impossible after a certain point in time to have distorted perspectives because you won't just be a biological human being.
02:23:54.000You'll be a biological human being that is interfaced with an insanely intelligent Technology that allows you to elevate everything around you, but then again It's not going to be great.
02:25:10.000So she just had this book and she's...
02:25:13.000You know, she pays close attention to the current state and the near future state of mind reading technology.
02:25:21.000And I was absolutely blown away because I did not think that things were possible that are already happening in certain parts of the world.
02:25:33.000For example, She talked about a factory in China where they're able to, through an over-scalp ESG scanner, determine whether someone is slacking off by the brain signals being sent from them.
02:25:53.000And apparently it's even possible to simply have a tattoo behind your ear or somewhere on your face that gets enough of an electrical signal from your brain that can then get enhanced to get actual brain readings,
02:26:15.000to read your state of mind, essentially.
02:26:35.000And these signals get correlated through big data with states of mind.
02:26:43.000So you get enough data, you say, okay, this signal pattern means you're happy, this signal pattern means you're tired, this signal pattern means, etc.
02:26:52.000You get enough data of people talking with ESG and correlate it, perhaps using AI. Then you can get a signal in principle of what does the brain look like when someone is saying the sentence, I'm hungry for food or whatever.
02:27:11.000In principle, you can mind read with this, right?
02:27:41.000She's talking mostly about ESG. ESG. Yeah.
02:27:44.000So I know that there was, when you brought up India, I know that there was a trial where someone was convicted of, I think the term was functional knowledge of the crime scene.
02:28:24.000They had to be acquitted because they were being accused of either negligence or some sort of...
02:28:35.000I forget exactly what the charge was, but they were essentially not understanding seismology and the unpredictable nature of the movement of the earth.
02:28:44.000Italian seismologists cleared of manslaughter.
02:28:46.000So they were going to charge them with manslaughter.
02:28:50.000So six seismologists accused of misleading the public about the risk of an earthquake in Italy were cleared of manslaughter on 10th of November.
02:28:58.000An appeals court overturned their six-year prison sentences and reduced to two years the sentence for a government official who had been convicted with them.
02:29:08.000So a magnitude 6.3 earthquake struck the historic town of La Aquila in the early hours of 6 April 2009, killing more than 300 people.
02:29:18.000The findings by a three-judge appeals court prompted many...
02:29:24.000I don't know how I'm not saying that right.
02:29:26.000Citizens who were waiting outside the courtroom to react with rage, shouting shame and saying that the Italian state had just acquitted itself, local media reported.
02:29:35.000But it comes as a relief to scientists around the world who had been following the unprecedented case with alarm.
02:29:41.000We don't have to be worried about the possibility of being prosecuted if we give advice on earthquakes, says seismologist Ian Main of University of Edinburgh, UK. That would discourage giving honest opinion.
02:29:53.000The defendants themselves have mixed feelings.
02:29:58.000Guillo Salvaggi, former director of the National Earthquake Center in Rome, says that although he is happy to be acquitted, there's nothing to celebrate because the pain of the people of La Aquila remains.
02:30:08.000The scientists that end up in court is a consequence of a botched communication in a highly stressed environment.
02:30:14.000In the months before the major earthquake struck, the region around La Aquila We're good to go.
02:31:05.000And then deputy director of the Italian Civil Protection Department conveyed a reassuring message that a major earthquake was not on the cards.
02:31:12.000Okay, so the earthquake happened, and so they charged these people with manslaughter.
02:31:19.000As a consequence, so, okay, the television interview recorded shortly after the meeting, but aired shortly before the meeting, rather, but aired after it.
02:31:28.000DiBernardinis, who is now president of the Institute for Environmental Research and Protection in Rome, says that the scientific community tells me there is no danger because there is an ongoing discharge of energy during the seismic swarm.
02:31:39.000As a consequence, according to the prosecution, when the earthquake struck on 6 April 29, people chose to stay indoors instead of stepping outside as they otherwise would have done, and died as their homes collapsed.
02:31:53.000All seven members of the expert commission were found guilty of manslaughter.
02:31:57.000And this is 2012. This is pretty recently.
02:32:01.000After a 13-month trial that transfixed the international scientific community.
02:32:10.000Charging them with manslaughter is fucking crazy.
02:32:12.000I don't think they're basing it on what they know about earthquakes.
02:33:03.000They're trying to predict this rosy version of a much more productive future if you just submit to letting the company that you work for read your fucking mind.
02:33:13.000And the things that she's citing, it's really fascinating.
02:33:18.000But she's talking about how much better her productivity is and she's getting more work done.
02:33:23.000She's much more focused because they know when she's not.
02:33:31.000So I don't know if that China factory story ends up being true, but Farahani has a lot of other examples in her book of studies that have been done and what's possible.
02:33:40.000And she has this worry about this notion of cognitive liberty that soon we're going to have to decide if the right to privacy extends to our brain data.
02:34:01.000There was people that I know that had COVID, recovered from COVID, and were required to get vaccinated in order to participate in certain television programs and certain movie programs.
02:34:14.000I know a professor, a music professor, that was required to get the booster.
02:34:21.000Already double-vaxxed and had gotten COVID, was required to get the booster on pain of lost work, of not being able to teach.
02:34:40.000And they required him, and he had to do it.
02:34:42.000And I think part of the reason why someone like RFK has so much support and enthusiasm is because there's all these people that didn't have Zoom professions, that didn't work from home, for whom a paycheck was meaningful.
02:34:59.000Who were forced into this thing, not forced, I shouldn't say forced, were pressured.
02:35:05.000Were pressured into additional things that they didn't need.
02:35:11.000And that has caused an understandable backlash.
02:35:15.000And I think people have, there's obviously an age element to this too.
02:35:20.000Vaccines were far more important for older folks than for younger folks.
02:35:25.000And so I think people have really failed to take the compassionate angle towards why people are so interested in a guy like RFK and that is definitely part of it.
02:37:54.000It's just a documentary about our pullout from Vietnam.
02:37:59.000And our efforts to get South Vietnamese out, the fact that we waited so long to admit the war was fully lost and that we had to leave, there were people just clinging to the myth that we could still be there a little bit longer, a little bit longer.
02:38:15.000And the total logistical failure of it, that people were just trying to find helicopters from anywhere in the world to get people off of the rooftop of the embassy and all the South Vietnamese that we abandoned that ended up in concentration camps.
02:38:34.000It was maybe the best war-related documentary I've ever seen in my life.
02:40:14.000Fact that these people are tweeting about these things on phones that you can literally trace if you go back down the supply chain Literally made by slaves who are using materials that are pulled out of the ground in some of the most inhumane,
02:40:37.000horrific conditions on Earth right now.
02:40:39.000That pregnant women, women carrying their babies on their back, are digging cobalt out of the ground.
02:40:46.000And that's getting into your phone, and that's what you're using to tweet about inequality.
02:40:52.000I read this book recently called In Defense of Capitalism by...
02:40:57.000I think he's like a Northern European guy.
02:41:03.000And he mentioned this episode where UNESCO... Banned child labor either in Pakistan or Bangladesh and did a follow-up study of the kids that were no longer in those child labor factories.
02:41:20.000And some crazy proportion of them had gone into child prostitution because that was their alternative.
02:41:26.000Their alternatives in life were work in the factory or sell your body.
02:41:57.000It's a very grim reality that's currently happening.
02:42:01.000That's one of the strangest things about these things.
02:42:04.000When they're not happening to you right now, it's very difficult to wrap your mind around What would be like if your roll of the dice was you were born in Karachi or you were born in...
02:42:41.000And that's real right now in 2023. And the only thing that stops that from happening is people who have good intentions making sure that we engineer a future that's better for everybody.
02:44:10.000That's one of the things that I've become very fascinated with from my discussions with Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock is the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
02:44:18.000And it's a theory that somewhere around 11,800 years ago, the end of the Ice Age was caused by us getting hit by comets.
02:44:26.000And it probably wiped out most civilization.
02:44:29.000When we're looking at the Mesopotamians and ancient Sumer, we're looking at a rebuilding of civilization.
02:44:38.000Not the emergence of civilization, but a rebuilding of civilization.
02:44:43.000What that means to me is that from 11,800 years ago to 6,000 years ago, it was probably pretty fucking horrific.
02:44:55.000And the people that did make it were probably monsters.
02:44:58.000And then it took a long time for everything to settle back down again.
02:45:03.000And people started inventing mathematics again and start rebuilding structures and start using agriculture and all these different things that they probably had already harnessed when they were building the pyramids.
02:45:13.000They probably already harnessed all that.
02:45:14.000They were probably as advanced, if not more advanced than us.
02:45:18.000That what we are is what Graham Hancock...
02:45:21.000Graham Hancock likes to say that we're a civilization with amnesia.
02:45:25.000And that seems like archaeologists were pushing back against it for a long time, but they seem to be backing off of that now for a bunch of reasons.
02:45:33.000One, because of the physical evidence.
02:45:35.000There's a lot of real physical evidence of ancient cultures that were far more sophisticated than we give them credit for.
02:45:41.000Specifically, Gobekli Tepe and some of these places in Turkey, they found 11,000-year-old complex stone structures back when people were supposed to be much more primitive.
02:45:51.000And they really don't know the actual dates of the pyramids.
02:45:54.000They've just carbon dated some genetic material, some material that's inside the cracks of the stones and stuff on the stone.
02:46:02.000But they don't know when they actually put it down.
02:46:23.000And the thought behind it is that the real problem is some of these fucking things weighed 50 70 tons and they were taken from quarries Hundreds of miles away through the mountains at the very most recent with the with the mainstream archaeologists believe was 2500 BC somehow another back then They have the ability to move 70-ton blocks of stone through the
02:46:53.000mountains from hundreds of miles away and get it to Giza.
02:46:58.000And not just that, but build 2,300,000 of them into a perfect pyramid.
02:47:28.000But whoever those people were, and whatever they did, and how they did it, and how long ago they did it, what they did we can't do today, no matter what anybody says.
02:47:37.000I think the number was, if they cut in place 10 stones a day, it would take you 600 plus years to make one pyramid.
02:47:45.00010 of these massive stones that they move into place.
02:48:31.000And when they get to that point in time at 11,800 years ago, they find high levels of iridium in certain parts of the Earth, which is very common in space and very rare on Earth.
02:48:39.000They also find nanodiamonds that come from impacts.
02:48:43.000And I think they call it tritonite or trinitite, like after the Trinity bomb, because when they detonated the Trinity bomb, they found this same sort of micro glass because of the explosion.
02:48:54.000It's just extreme amount of energy slamming into dirt and it makes these micro diamonds.
02:48:58.000And they find those also at that level of 11,800 years.
02:49:02.000And they think it was not just that one time.
02:49:04.000They think it probably happened again somewhere around 10,000 years ago as well.
02:49:07.000Maybe multiple times throughout history.
02:49:09.000And they think it's also the same comet storm that we passed through that led to the Tunguska event.
02:49:20.000There was an area of Siberia where I think it was like more than a million acres of trees were devastated.
02:49:26.000And what they think happened was we passed through that comet shower and something blew up in the environment upon re-entry, upon entry into our environment, into our atmosphere, and blew up over.
02:49:37.000It didn't actually impact, but it detonated above it.
02:49:40.000And I think to this day it's still flattened.
02:49:43.000To this day I don't think there's trees there.
02:49:49.000When you see a shooting star and it gets really bright and then it stops, that's because it's burned up upon entry.
02:49:53.000But something might be so big that when it burns up upon entry, it just explodes.
02:49:59.000And this Tunguska event, there's wild speculation.
02:50:03.000I was listening to a Radiolab podcast where there was a scientist who was speculating that Perhaps it was a very tiny black hole that impacted the Earth.
02:50:13.000But there's a lot of debate as to whether or not that's valid.
02:50:18.000I'm not smart enough to understand that.
02:50:19.000But they do believe that that time that the Tunguska event happened coincides with the time where Earth goes through this regular period of comet activity.
02:50:31.000Because we pass through this comet cloud.
02:50:35.000I think it's every November and every June.
02:50:38.000See if you can find that Tunguska thing.
02:50:40.000Because I think to this day it's still flattened.
02:52:01.000Same kind of thing, where we reach this incredible level of sophistication, but everything that our sophistication is based on, in terms of your ability to acquire that information, is all either electronic or paper.
02:52:13.000I mean, all that stuff is like so easy to destroy.
02:52:16.000It's like if we didn't have computers, if we died, if there was some Walking Dead type situation, and all the people that run computers and all the people that run the power grid, they all die, and then we have these hard drives four or five hundred years from now, they're not going to be Worth anything anymore.
02:52:43.000And the Earth's going to swallow them up and there's going to be no evidence of them.
02:52:46.000They'll just completely be absorbed by the Earth.
02:52:48.000And that's probably why we don't find anything from whatever the technology was that these people had that they were able to invent the pyramids.
02:52:59.000Because whatever the fuck they had, there's these bizarre stones where it looks like they've somehow or another scooped out sections of stone.
02:53:10.000It looks like it was done with like some unknown technology.
02:53:15.000They speculated all sorts of different things, like different kinds of energy systems that they would have used to cut this stone in this manner.
02:53:22.000But it's, I mean, some of the stones in the Great Pyramid are cut so precisely, you can't even get fucking a razor bleed in between them.
02:53:30.000And they just stack these things on top of each other and made this perfect structure.
02:53:34.000It's amazing that there's no leading theory.
02:53:37.000They have theories, but they're kind of horseshit.
02:53:39.000But there's no theories that everyone agrees on because they're so likely, right?
02:53:43.000It's almost like this civilization Imagine if you're a civilization that's so advanced that you want to leave evidence of yourself.
02:54:44.000Like, the most sophisticated machinery we have today, if you had to move a 70-ton block of stone 500 miles through the mountains, good luck.
02:55:48.000And he was sort of an alternative Egyptologist.
02:55:51.000He wasn't like formally trained in it, but became obsessed with it.
02:55:55.000I learned, like, so much about the mysteries of these ancient cultures and how insanely sophisticated they were and how they have hieroglyphs that date back 40,000-plus years of history.
02:56:10.000So they depict These kings that modern Egyptologists say, oh, that's just fantasy.
02:59:02.000I mean, there are theories, but similar to the pyramid.
02:59:05.000There's nothing agreed upon because there's no evidence that strongly, no evidence or even logic that strongly favors one theory or the other.
02:59:14.000It's fascinating that people always say it's the mind.
02:59:18.000But my thought has always been like, imagine if there was a machine, and this machine did all these incredible things, but you realize this machine was plugged into the wall.
02:59:26.000And if you pulled that plug out, the machine stopped working.
02:59:30.000Like, oh, that's the brain, right there.
02:59:32.000Because you pull that out, it doesn't work anymore.
02:59:34.000Well, you blow someone's brains out, they can't think anymore.
02:59:37.000But is that because the brains are where they're thinking?
02:59:39.000Or is it possible that the brain is receiving Consciousness.
02:59:45.000That consciousness is something that's just a part of the universe and that we are the embodiment of it in a physical, biological form.
02:59:56.000But we're just kind of tuning into it.
02:59:58.000And we're using the mind, we're using the human brain to tune that in like a radio.
03:00:04.000It's kind of close to the idea of panpsychism, right?
03:00:08.000Which is, it's as respected now, a theory as all of the other theories.
03:00:34.000Nothing like a dog, which is nothing like a human.
03:00:38.000But as nuts as that sounds, it is on a par with all of the other theories.
03:00:45.000None of the other theories have more evidence for them than that one.
03:00:49.000It's a deep mystery that science, despite its enormous successes over the past 400, 500 years, is no closer to an answer about now than it was, you know, 100 years ago.
03:01:05.000Like if you stopped and think about what life would be like if you lived before they understood that viruses existed or what caused them or what bacteria was, what caused infections when surgeons didn't even wash their hands.
03:01:25.000Their understanding of what these things are was based entirely on what people had already figured out and they couldn't imagine a world Imagine if you lived before bacteria was discovered.
03:01:36.000Imagine a world where someone tried to explain to you.
03:01:39.000Now, there's like these little tiny invisible things.
03:01:47.000But Philip Goff, who's a philosopher, he made a very good point to me.
03:01:51.000Because I made that exact same argument to him.
03:01:53.000I said, isn't this just another one of all the big paradigm shifts that we've had?
03:01:58.000And he made the good point, which is that...
03:02:01.000The whole idea of science is premised on what is observable, what you can empirically observe.
03:02:07.000All of the great discoveries of science in one or another form have been based on observable evidence.
03:02:13.000Even things that are too small to see, they have effects that can be measured, and we can test different theories by looking at observable things.
03:02:22.000Consciousness is about the unobservable.
03:02:24.000And so, in some deep way, science was not designed to answer the question.
03:03:35.000Because according to the laws of physics, the laws of chemistry, everything that is known in biology, chemistry, and physics, there is no reason why we should be feeling something in addition to doing stuff.
03:03:49.000But doesn't it motivate you to do more stuff?
03:03:52.000You can create a robot that has the incentive structure of motivation without the feeling.
03:04:00.000Right, but you'd have to create it, but you'd have to be a thing that understood those things in order to create it.
03:04:06.000The assumption is that through evolution, there's been determining factors that favored that sort of thinking and behavior.
03:04:16.000Because those determining factors allowed you to create tools, shelter, devise strategies to avoid problems you've experienced in the past, and that all this would be beneficial to passing on your genes.
03:04:51.000All those things, they work in conjunction to make sure we keep progressing.
03:04:57.000Yeah, they do, but this extra variable of consciousness is not necessary for any of that.
03:05:05.000You could build a robot that hunted, in principle, the laws of physics allow for that you could build a robot that hunted and tried to procreate and did all this kind of stuff, but there's nobody home.
03:05:33.000There's a lady that's feeding crocodiles.
03:05:35.000She's throwing chickens into this crocodile pit.
03:05:38.000And this one crocodile reaches over and grabs the other crocodile's foot and just bites it and does a gator roll and just snaps his foot off and chokes it back and swallows it.
03:07:18.000Despite being reptiles, little is known about whether or not alligators could regenerate their thick, massive tails.
03:07:23.000Gators can reach 15 feet in length, weigh up to 1,000 pounds, so regrowing a tail is no small feat.
03:07:29.000But in a surprising new discovery, scientists found that young American alligators can regrow their tails up to 9 inches or around 18% of their body length.
03:07:37.000What does it say about their limbs though?
03:07:48.000Further analysis revealed the tail had grown back after it was severed.
03:07:53.000Using a high-tech imaging technologies and traditional dissection, the researchers found that the gator's tail re-grew cartilage, connective tissue, and skin instead of bone and skeletal muscle.
03:08:04.000The findings revealed that American alligators have more regenerative abilities than mammals.
03:08:12.000That mammals, which usually grow nerves, skin, and blood vessels, but less than lizards, which can sprout entirely new perfect tails with skeletal muscle.
03:09:29.000I'm doing my best to do my stuff, and I feel things, and I'm working hard today, but I'm going to work less hard if I finish this, you know?
03:09:39.000Well, there's a lot of observable data about gut bacteria and human behavior.
03:10:40.000Well, I think there's probiotics that you can take that can mitigate some of those issues, but it's also a healthy diet and feeding yourself the correct foods.
03:10:52.000Because you want your body to have the real building blocks to be healthy and to regrow tissue instead of just stuffing your face with stuff that tastes good.
03:11:47.000And also, my understanding is it's not approved at all in Europe.
03:11:52.000So when I learned that, I just said, I should probably cool off on this, not drink it every day until we have a little more information that this is okay in the long run, but it tastes great and it's not technically sugar.
03:12:06.000So they can say Soylent has zero sugar but tastes amazing.
03:12:38.000Like net carbs, like outside of sugar, outside of this, but how does your body process it?
03:12:44.000Like net carbs, I think, fine enough if this is true, I think it was a phrase that was invented by Atkins when they were doing the Atkins diet.
03:12:54.000When they were trying to label things in terms of, like, they were trying to make things more low-carb-seeming.
03:13:01.000But I think it's kind of a deceptive term.
03:13:05.000Someone was explaining online, and I just glanced at it really quickly, and I didn't get the deep dive on it.
03:13:55.000That's the question many carb-conscious dieters are now facing as they struggle to keep their carb counts within the strict limits recommended by Atkins and other low-carb diets.
03:14:04.000In an effort to cash in On the low-carb craze, food manufacturers invented a new category of carbohydrates known as net carbs, which promises to let dieters eat the sweet and creamy foods they crave without suffering the carb consequences.
03:14:19.000But the problem is that there's no legal definition of the net.
03:14:47.000The terms have been made up by food companies, says Wahinda Karmali, Dr. PHRD, Director of Nutrition at the Irving Center for Clinical Research at Columbia University.
03:15:00.000It's a way for the manufacturers of these products to draw attention to them and make them look appealing by saying, look, you can eat all these carbs, but you're really not impacting your health, so to speak.
03:16:04.000Also in these categories of largely indigestible carbohydrates are sugar alcohols such as mannitol, sorbitol, xylitol, and other polyols, which are modified alcohol molecules that reassemble sugar.
03:16:18.000These substances are commonly used as artificial sweeteners.
03:16:21.000In calculating net carbs, most manufacturers take the total number of carbohydrates, a product containing, and subtract fiber and sugar alcohols.
03:16:29.000Because these type of carbohydrates are thought to have minimal impact on blood sugar levels.
03:16:35.000So, for example, the label on Power Bar's new Double Chocolate Flavor Protein Carb Select Bar says it has only 2 grams of impact carbohydrates.
03:16:47.000The nutrition fact label on the product says it has 30 grams of total carbohydrates.
03:16:56.000Just below the nutrition facts box, the impact carb facts box provided by the manufacturer explains, fiber and sugar alcohols have a minimal effect on blood sugar.
03:17:07.000For those watching, their carb intake count 2 grams.
03:17:11.000That's 30 grams minus the bar's 27 grams of sugar alcohol But the researchers say that the impact of sugar alcohols on blood sugar levels and the body is not fully understood,
03:17:28.000and they may also cause problems in some people.
03:17:32.000There are some sugar alcohols that can raise your blood sugar, says Carmally.
03:17:36.000Certain sugar alcohols do have a higher glycemic index, and they are still not counted as carbohydrates by these companies.
03:18:18.000Instead of admitting that it just doesn't protect you for as long as they said, they said, oh, well, some patients experience breakthrough pain.
03:18:25.000As if the Oxy is doing its job, but certain pain is like breaking through, right?
03:18:31.000It's blaming the pain as opposed to the drug.
03:18:40.000Again, this is the idea that COVID somehow broke through the defensive shield of the vaccine rather than claiming, saying it normally, which would be the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it again.
03:18:54.000That would be the normal way to say that, rather than to create a new concept of a breakthrough infection that is breaking through like a powerful warrior through the shield of this substance.
03:19:05.000It's a weird, a very backwards way of framing what's going on.
03:20:41.000Did you ever find that commercial, the World Economic Forum cartoon about mind reading at work?
03:20:49.000We should probably end with this because it's adorable.
03:20:53.000It's so kooky when you watch it, you just go, what?
03:20:58.000Like, this lady is fantasizing about the guy, and you see the guy with, like, a six-pack in a cartoon, and you see her co-worker getting hauled off, you know, because the co-worker was doing something corrupt, and she was worried because she was starting a project with this guy.
03:21:13.000So it's all labeling all the reasons why you should submit to mind reading.
03:21:42.000What they're saying is, in the future, this is what they're saying in the cartoon, what you can look forward to, not that they're doing it right now, They're saying, you can look forward to when this technology is implemented, it's going to radically increase productivity.
03:22:25.000Even you can't believe how productive you've been.
03:22:28.000Your memo is finished, your inbox is under control, and you're feeling sharper than you have in a decade.
03:22:35.000Sensing your joy, your playlist shifts to your favorite song, sending chills up your spine as the music begins to play.
03:22:43.000You glance at the program running in the background on your computer screen and notice a now familiar sight that appears whenever you're overloaded with pleasure, your theta brainwave activity decreasing in the temporal regions of your brain.
03:22:59.000You mentally move the cursor to the left and scroll through your brain data over the past few hours.
03:23:05.000You can see your stress levels rising as the deadline to finish your memo approached, causing a peak in your beta brainwave activity right before an alert popped up telling you to take a brain break.
03:23:18.000But what's that unusual change in your brain activity when you're asleep?
03:23:55.000She thought about him and her supervisor notices.
03:24:00.000When the email she sends you later that day congratulates you on your brain metrics from the past quarter, which have earned you another performance bonus.
03:24:09.000You head home, jamming to the music, with your work-issued brain sensing earbuds still in.
03:25:37.000Nita even told me about situations where a couple would go into therapy and a woman would say to the man, like, I don't know if you really love me.
03:25:47.000And they say, well, we can actually see how he feels when he sees your face or when he...
03:25:54.000Let's put him in an ESG or fMRI and now we can confirm it.
03:27:44.000When I originally read the article from David Grutch, not from him, but reporting about him and all of these other intelligence people that seem to confirm his story, I thought, this seems like the best, this seems like the most solid case for UAPs to date.
03:28:04.000Then I saw him interviewed and he seemed like a crazy guy.
03:28:09.000You get that sense sometimes when you see someone actually on video.
03:28:14.000On the other hand, I have people I know that are saying, because of the multiple confirmations from other respected people, former intelligence people, that they take it very seriously.
03:28:55.000I think there's multiple things going on simultaneously.
03:28:59.000I think if you go back to the sightings that happened in this country, specifically the multitude of sightings that happened after we dropped the bombs, there seems to be, if they're telling the truth, there's a lot of credible sightings by high-level military people By people that claimed they shut down nuclear missile bases and that they did things,
03:29:20.000that they hovered over bases and that fighter jets scrambled to go after them.
03:29:25.000All this stuff seems verifiable, that there was some sort of a phenomenon back when there was no possible technology that existed that could do that in terms of like what we could make.
03:29:38.000I don't think that's the case anymore.
03:29:41.000My feeling is there's probably real life situations where we or someone encounters something from somewhere else.
03:29:52.000I think it would be foolish to think that it's not possible.
03:29:54.000Just given the vast scope of the universe and the possibility of things existing in a much more stable environment where they don't have to worry about asteroid storms and a different kind of solar system or the different kind of life form that doesn't have all the primate issues that we have,
03:30:11.000It evolves to the point where it's capable of traveling through the universe and visiting these semi-primitive cultures like ours or relatively primitive cultures.
03:30:24.000I also think when the government starts telling you about out-of-world crafts and things not of this earth and all that, I think that's what I would say if I had some technology that we have developed that is insane.
03:30:40.000That is beyond the imagination of the Luddite, beyond the imagination of the person who doesn't understand the physics involved and whatever this propulsion system they've engineered is.
03:30:50.000And people have been working on magnetic propulsion systems and gravity propulsion systems forever.
03:30:55.000They've been, at least in concept, It's entirely possible that with the unlimited amount of funds that the government has, that the military has to develop things, that somewhere they've developed some sort of a drone that's capable of moving in ways that we can't even imagine.
03:31:13.000And that's what the Tic Tac UFO is and all the other military sightings.
03:31:18.000I think they all seem to happen near where military bases are.
03:31:24.000They seem to happen like off the coast of San Diego is the Tic Tac one.
03:31:27.000There's a big military presence in San Diego.
03:31:30.000They happen off the East Coast where they have military bases and these restricted air zones.
03:31:34.000They happen in these places where they run tests like when they do training missions with jets.
03:31:40.000And that's how these fighter pirates like Ryan Graves have encountered these things.
03:31:44.000Specifically after they updated their sensors.
03:31:47.000These people have spotted things visually.
03:31:51.000Their detection systems have seen these things.
03:31:56.000But who's to say that these things aren't some sort of fucking crazy drone that we have developed that we don't want the world to know that we've developed it.
03:32:05.000So we say, oh, it's out of this world.
03:32:13.000I'm publicly way more open to the possibility of UAPs and even the government has kind of looked into it open-mindedly and Brazil has just been like an open conversation, a non-taboo conversation for decades.
03:33:43.000That apparently had been trying to communicate with him and ask them for help.
03:33:47.000And that after that happened, there was another craft that came that was seen by thousands of people in this town that described this exact same thing where they saw this thing that appeared to be like looking for this crash craft or the members that were inside,
03:34:03.000the creatures that were inside this thing.
03:34:27.000You could send bits of it to five different labs tomorrow, if anyone had it, and have them all independently confirm, right?
03:34:35.000But David Grush is not saying he has any personal experience with this.
03:34:39.000This is where it makes it interesting.
03:34:40.000This is just stuff that was revealed to him.
03:34:43.000Which is also how I would get out information if I wanted to put out misinformation.
03:34:48.000I mean we know that the federal government infiltrates extremist groups and they put – they have members – like when the famous Gretchen Whitmer case when they were saying that they were going to kidnap her.
03:35:02.000And it turned out that 12 of the 14 people that were involved were federal informants.
03:35:07.000So 12 of the 14 people were feds that were involved in this.
03:35:11.000So, like, if I was going to, if I wanted to release some fake information, I would find some dude.
03:35:34.000But if you haven't seen it yourself, this is all just talk, you're reading documents, maybe they're true, maybe they're not.
03:35:42.000What fascinates me is people like Commander David Fravor that encountered that Tic Tac thing and the other fighter pilots in a different jet that encountered this.
03:35:51.000And they saw it take off at insane rates of speed and then they tracked it where it went to their cat point which is their agreed upon point where this mission had like very specific areas they were going to go to.
03:36:04.000This thing went directly to there at insane rate of speed.
03:36:07.000That supposedly, if there was a human being inside of it, they'd just turn into jello.
03:36:19.000Is that a propulsion system that is...
03:36:22.000Right now, unknown to the general population?
03:36:25.000Is that something that they've been working on for a long time, where they've developed this ability to get this thing to move to certain directions?
03:36:31.000Well, I know there's this guy, Mick Jenkins, you know about him?
03:36:52.000But the problem is he's assuming that all of their communications, that they don't know what they're seeing, that they don't know how to read these machines that are detecting things, that their eyes are deceiving them.
03:37:07.000They're looking at this thing physically.
03:37:09.000Either they're lying or they don't know what they're looking at.
03:37:35.000But I would probably believe that they understand that a thing that moves from 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 in a second is beyond comprehension.
03:37:45.000If the tracking systems are accurate, which they are with everything else, they are with all the jets, and there's ways to detect them, or there's ways to evade them, right?
03:37:53.000That's what the stealth bomber's all about.
03:37:54.000There's ways to evade certain radar systems.
03:37:58.000But this is like multiple systems and physical or visual recognition of this thing where multiple people have seen this thing move in this very bizarre way.
03:38:08.000And then there's the video of this thing taking off at this supposed insane rates of speed.
03:38:13.000There's the go fast one that's off the coast, the East Coast.
03:38:18.000There's these weird things where you're like, what are they looking at?
03:38:28.000You know, is that just a mylar balloon and they're stupid?
03:38:31.000That doesn't seem to make sense to me.
03:38:34.000It doesn't seem to make sense to me that they're detecting this thing that, according to Ryan Graves, stays motionless in 120 knot winds and then can zip off in some insane way.
03:38:46.000They don't understand what it's doing, that they're seeing this.
03:38:49.000Is it a circle inside of a sphere or a sphere inside of a circle?
03:38:55.000I'm sorry, is it a circle inside of a sphere, or is it a circle inside of a square, or a cube?
03:40:59.000At the same time, you know, I think most people that believe life is biological and that God didn't start at all and Earth isn't special would acknowledge there's probably life out there.
03:41:20.000Like I said, I always assign it very low probability because the odds are things that are crazy and on Earth are created by us and we just haven't found out about that yet.
03:41:30.000But I don't rule out the extraterrestrial source.
03:41:35.000For me, it's a frustrating distraction.
03:41:37.000It's like less frustrating than social media.
03:41:41.000It's less frustrating than scrolling through Instagram, but equally unsatisfying.