The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer

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00:00:12.000 As far as, like, cage-fighting commentators.

00:00:15.000 That's what you're classifying yourself as.

00:00:18.000 Yeah, pothead comedian slash cage-fighting commentator.

00:00:21.000 Cage-fighting commentator.

00:00:23.000 I got a pretty solid IQ for that.

00:00:24.000 No, that's great.

00:00:25.000 So you said it was the average...

00:00:28.000 There's 16% of America that has below 85 IQ? Correct.

00:00:34.000 So that's the cutoff for military service.

00:00:38.000 So they can't take somebody in.

00:00:39.000 This is the kind of talk that started Hitler off. 0.79

00:00:42.000 It's like when they start getting some master race eugenics. 0.79

00:00:47.000 Because, you know, I would never, ever say that people shouldn't breed.

00:00:52.000 I would never say anything like that.

00:00:54.000 You wouldn't?

00:00:55.000 I would never.

00:00:56.000 Are you serious? 0.99

00:00:59.000 If we're in elk hunting camp, I'll fucking tell you that. 0.99

00:01:02.000 But publicly, I would never say that. 0.99

00:01:04.000 You would never say it on this podcast.

00:01:06.000 Yeah.

00:01:07.000 I mean, here's the thing.

00:01:08.000 I don't know what my parents' IQs were.

00:01:10.000 What if my parents were, you know, like, what if they got IQs and their IQ tests were really low?

00:01:18.000 Well, I mean, isn't it possible that someone who's not that bright has a super smart kid, like, they give them enough vaccines and the kid comes out a genius?

00:01:26.000 I hope that's the case for my kids.

00:01:30.000 Like, God, I hope so.

00:01:32.000 Like, I hope they got a little bit more than I do.

00:01:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:35.000 Life's hard when you're stupid. 1.00

00:01:36.000 Oh my God, it's so hard when you're dumb. 1.00

00:01:39.000 God. 1.00

00:01:40.000 See, I've had conversations with dudes and, like, halfway in the conversation, I'm like, this poor motherfucker with this dim light bulb. 0.98

00:01:48.000 Typically me, that's the way I feel, where I'm like, I'm running this thing to the red, you know? 0.97

00:01:53.000 I've got max RPMs going on up here, down here.

00:01:57.000 God, I had dinner with Eric Weinstein.

00:02:01.000 Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about.

00:02:03.000 It's crazy.

00:02:04.000 I'm just trying to like...

00:02:06.000 Impossible to keep up.

00:02:07.000 It's like you're at VO2 max, and he hasn't even like...

00:02:10.000 Stepped off the curb mentally.

00:02:12.000 Yeah, he's like, let me explain this to you.

00:02:14.000 He got out the crayons and drew me some pictures.

00:02:19.000 Dude, he literally wrote, I don't even know if it's been disproven.

00:02:23.000 See, this is the thing.

00:02:24.000 The stuff that he discusses is so complex that there's only like, what's the amount of people in the world that could even argue with him about it?

00:02:33.000 He wrote a theory of everything.

00:02:36.000 The theory of everything.

00:02:37.000 And he announced it on this podcast.

00:02:40.000 He published this theory, and he's putting it out there for people to judge.

00:02:44.000 And I don't know how it's been received.

00:02:45.000 I don't know.

00:02:46.000 But how would I know?

00:02:49.000 I mean, I would never understand who's... 1.00

00:02:51.000 One of the things that I've learned during COVID, this whole trust the experts thing, suck my dick. 1.00

00:02:56.000 Okay? 1.00

00:02:57.000 That's nonsense. 1.00

00:02:58.000 There's a lot of these people that are fucking full of shit. 1.00

00:03:01.000 And bought and paid for and I don't trust just the experts anymore. 1.00

00:03:07.000 I trust some experts.

00:03:08.000 I trust if I can understand what they're talking about and I know where maybe their conflicts lie, I can see, well, why would they be ignoring certain studies but highlighting others?

00:03:20.000 Oh, there's a conflict of interest.

00:03:22.000 Oh, there's some money involved.

00:03:23.000 Oh, maybe there's a revolving door and they can get into some nice agency or some corporation after they're done with the agency.

00:03:31.000 I can kind of look at that, but it takes time. 0.99

00:03:35.000 With this shit, what he's talking about, I have no idea who the experts are. 0.99

00:03:40.000 I have no idea. 1.00

00:03:41.000 He's literally talking about a theory of everything.

00:03:45.000 And it was Brian Callan and me, and it was a wild conversation.

00:03:50.000 Did you even get to talk?

00:03:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:52.000 Brian Callan and Eric Weinstein.

00:03:54.000 How much did you get to talk?

00:03:55.000 I got to talk.

00:03:57.000 Like, 10% of the time, which I felt...

00:03:59.000 That's a solid number.

00:04:00.000 Yeah, that's a solid number.

00:04:01.000 Like, I showed up.

00:04:02.000 I got up to bat, you know?

00:04:04.000 I can't say I ever hit the ball, but I was at least participating.

00:04:08.000 Dude, I've had conversations with Jordan Peterson where we've had a three and a half hour conversation.

00:04:12.000 I've talked for three minutes.

00:04:15.000 Now, that does not surprise me at all, because he can go.

00:04:21.000 He can go.

00:04:21.000 That guy can go.

00:04:23.000 He can go.

00:04:23.000 Have you watched those The Monk debates with him?

00:04:26.000 Yes, I did.

00:04:27.000 Those are incredible.

00:04:27.000 Amazing, yeah.

00:04:28.000 Him and, was it Malcolm Gladwell...

00:04:33.000 That debate, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, that thing was so good, because I just love watching those guys intellectually eviscerate people, because it's hilarious to me.

00:04:45.000 I do, but it becomes a bit of an intellectual rap battle.

00:04:51.000 And that's what I don't like about it.

00:04:53.000 I just feel like it's beneath those guys.

00:04:55.000 And when I see guys like Malcolm dunking on people, I'm like...

00:05:03.000 Shouldn't we just be discussing the data?

00:05:05.000 Instead of trying to invoke an emotional response from someone, I understand why you would do that if you were fucking with someone, if you wanted to have an argument with someone, but what is this publicly for?

00:05:18.000 Why is it public?

00:05:19.000 Well, it's public because we're trying to understand who's right and who's wrong.

00:05:22.000 I want to know why you think the way you think.

00:05:24.000 There's clearly many different schools of thought when it comes to many cultural things, and people are fiercely opposed to the other side.

00:05:31.000 I want to know where you're coming from.

00:05:33.000 If you're dunking on people, like, now I do know where you're coming from.

00:05:38.000 I don't like that.

00:05:39.000 Because, like, first of all, it's not anything that funny.

00:05:41.000 If you're going to do it, be good at it. 0.98

00:05:43.000 Be fucking funny. 0.98

00:05:44.000 And also, it's not necessary to this argument, this discussion. 0.98

00:05:49.000 You should really be talking about why you really believe what you believe.

00:05:53.000 And what you think is wrong with this opposing opinion. 0.98

00:05:57.000 Not just being silly. 0.95

00:05:59.000 I love... 0.78

00:06:00.000 But I do...

00:06:01.000 I love the debate stage.

00:06:03.000 Like, I love that forum for two people to take a topic.

00:06:06.000 I used to watch debates.

00:06:09.000 I think...

00:06:10.000 PBS used to do a series on just, you know, they'd take one topic and they'd chew it up and they'd figure out where's the crowd before and then where was the crowd after.

00:06:19.000 And they're fascinating because when people are going from opposing points, they're going back and forth if they stick to facts and they don't get personal.

00:06:27.000 Because that's when it actually starts to get, like, really?

00:06:29.000 Now you're just kind of being personal.

00:06:32.000 You're degrading the actual conversation.

00:06:34.000 You're not going...

00:06:35.000 It's not a fight.

00:06:36.000 It's not, like...

00:06:38.000 From my perspective, you look at it, it's kind of like watching a match, where you're watching two guys go back and forth, hit for hit, and seeing guys like Jordan and Douglas Murray or some of those guys really flex,

00:06:55.000 it's pretty funny to me.

00:06:58.000 Sam Harris is the GOAT at that, when it comes to religious debates. 1.00

00:07:04.000 That guy's the best at that shit, because he has this measured tone, and he never loses his cool, and he has so much fucking information. 0.99

00:07:12.000 That's when I became a fan of his, was watching those religious debates. 1.00

00:07:16.000 Yeah.

00:07:17.000 You know, because, like, sometimes when people believe a thing so much, they haven't ever looked at the thing the way someone who doesn't believe in the thing looks at it.

00:07:28.000 Right.

00:07:29.000 And when you get a guy like Sam, who's so eloquent, And is not buying it.

00:07:34.000 And he has a bunch of like really logical reasons why he's not buying it and some of them are pretty funny.

00:07:40.000 Yeah.

00:07:40.000 And when he brings those up in front of you and then the audience is laughing, it's like, ooh, this is a tough spot to be in.

00:07:47.000 Because they're trying to pull out all the stops and try to figure out why you're right.

00:07:51.000 When you got that much power to not only debate somebody on a subject with an encyclopedia of information and be funny so you can be charismatic, you can be logical, you can keep a measured tone... 0.98

00:08:06.000 That guy's pretty fucking skilled. 1.00

00:08:08.000 Oh, he's a wizard at that shit. 1.00

00:08:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:08:10.000 He's a wizard at that shit. 1.00

00:08:12.000 It's a game. 1.00

00:08:13.000 You know, you're playing...

00:08:14.000 It's like jujitsu.

00:08:16.000 It's like chess.

00:08:17.000 It's like you're playing this game.

00:08:18.000 There's a bunch of moves and trying to figure out who can get their moves off.

00:08:22.000 But I think people genuinely want to...

00:08:27.000 Like, did you ever see that movie?

00:08:29.000 There's a documentary about...

00:08:32.000 God, what was it called?

00:08:36.000 The one about Gore Vidal and...

00:08:39.000 What's that guy?

00:08:42.000 Yes, Best of Enemies.

00:08:43.000 No, I haven't seen it.

00:08:44.000 Gore Vidal and... 0.99

00:08:45.000 What's the fucking other guy's name? 0.99

00:08:46.000 I always forget his name. 0.99

00:08:46.000 William Buckley. 0.99

00:08:47.000 Yeah, William Buckley.

00:08:48.000 So Buckley's the conservative and Gore Vidal is the...

00:08:52.000 And they aired these, I think it was on NBC? Is that what it was on?

00:08:56.000 ABC or NBC? Oh, yeah.

00:08:58.000 But it got huge ratings.

00:09:00.000 Like, they were losing in the ratings, and this was kind of a Hail Mary.

00:09:04.000 Have William F. Buckley as the leading conservative, and Gore Vidal, who's this wild liberal.

00:09:10.000 And so they were moderated on ABC. ABC. News coverage of the Republican National Convention in Miami.

00:09:19.000 So this is 1968. They're fucking great, man. 0.99

00:09:22.000 Because one of the things that people are learning through podcasts when you talk about guys like Eric Weinstein or guys like Jordan Peterson or Sam Harrison, people want to hear people talk. 0.99

00:09:35.000 The people that are above that 85 IQ, you know, what is it, 84% of the population? 0.81

00:09:42.000 The people that are above, those fucking people, they want to hear how interesting, intelligent people are discussing ideas. 1.00

00:09:49.000 And you don't see any of that shit on TV. Except Bill Marshall. 1.00

00:09:54.000 But even Bill Marshall, there's a lot of people talking over each other.

00:09:57.000 It's an hour.

00:09:59.000 Everything's got to fit in an hour.

00:10:00.000 It's on HBO. Which is why I think he's doing his own show.

00:10:04.000 He's doing his own podcast now.

00:10:05.000 Yeah, it's like After Dark or something.

00:10:07.000 Club Random.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, okay, there you go.

00:10:09.000 It's very good.

00:10:09.000 I've seen it.

00:10:10.000 It's very good.

00:10:11.000 And he's really himself in that.

00:10:12.000 If you want to chill with Bill and have a drink, he really does a fantastic job of just being himself.

00:10:19.000 Isn't that interesting when you think about Bill Maher and his kind of outward appearance from his political point of view, which is typically going to be left, and then guys that go on a show and they have this really complex,

00:10:35.000 interesting conversation, but for a bunch of people, they won't even watch Bill because he's left.

00:10:43.000 They won't even watch, so they're going to stick in their echo chamber.

00:10:46.000 They're going to continue to kind of...

00:10:49.000 Propagate out speaking points from either platform.

00:10:52.000 And they're never gonna go out and watch different things just based on a person's political view.

00:10:57.000 Yeah, joining a political party or being in a political party like ideologically in your head is not good for you.

00:11:03.000 It's bad for like there are a lot of things that people who are on the right Believe that I agree with and there's a lot of things that people on the left believe and I agree with and And I refuse.

00:11:15.000 I refuse to be a part of this left versus right thing. 0.99

00:11:18.000 I think it's stupid. 1.00

00:11:20.000 I think it's bad for us, and I think it's a trap. 1.00

00:11:22.000 I think it's a really dumb trap in America. 0.99

00:11:25.000 And Bill Maher says a lot of really wise shit, and he says a lot of shit about culture that goes against the ideology that he's a part of. 0.99

00:11:36.000 He's as deep in the Hollywood system as is humanly possible. 0.99

00:11:39.000 He's a political host on a show on HBO. I mean, that's like deep Hollywood.

00:11:45.000 Right.

00:11:46.000 You know, he knows where the sex parties are at.

00:11:49.000 Because he's probably the guy setting the pin.

00:11:52.000 Yeah, he knows who's wearing the goat mask. 0.99

00:11:55.000 You know, like if there's a fucking Illuminati in Hollywood. 0.99

00:11:58.000 Meanwhile, you know, he does all these jokes in his monologue about transitioning kids. 0.99

00:12:05.000 Right. 0.98

00:12:05.000 About like, hey, maybe we shouldn't just break out the dick saw right away. 0.98

00:12:09.000 I'm like, yo, Bill is going for it. 0.80

00:12:12.000 Because he never stopped being a comic.

00:12:16.000 Bill Maher, out of all these guys that become hosts of talk shows, he never stopped just being a comic.

00:12:23.000 He never stopped touring.

00:12:24.000 He never stopped doing all of his live shows.

00:12:27.000 Never stopped being a comic.

00:12:29.000 That's what separates Bill.

00:12:31.000 Because there's a lot of these guys...

00:12:32.000 Look, man, you get a job like the host of The Tonight Show or something along those lines. 1.00

00:12:37.000 You are a fucking set, baby! 1.00

00:12:39.000 Let's go! 1.00

00:12:40.000 I'm buying a Ferrari!

00:12:42.000 I got a house in Maui!

00:12:45.000 You're balling out of control and there's a lot of pressure to keep that going and to appease the people that would make those decisions and to also be as marketable as humanly possible to everybody out there in the world so that you can maintain this job.

00:13:03.000 So whether or not they sit you down.

00:13:06.000 And say, hey, this is what you have to say.

00:13:09.000 You support a woman's right to choose.

00:13:11.000 You support immigration.

00:13:13.000 You support racists. 0.97

00:13:16.000 IDs are racist. 1.00

00:13:17.000 There's things you have to say.

00:13:19.000 You're with the vaccine, aren't you, Jimmy?

00:13:21.000 Like, yeah, I'm with the vaccine. 0.98

00:13:24.000 They don't necessarily sit you down and do that, but you fucking know. 1.00

00:13:29.000 You fucking know. 0.98

00:13:30.000 I mean it's unwitting or witting essentially extortion to a certain degree because you're saying if you don't cooperate you're gonna be on the streets. 0.99

00:13:40.000 And you're not gonna get picked for stuff.

00:13:42.000 No!

00:13:43.000 But it's a tyranny that like if there's one person or one group that has the overwhelming part of discerning who makes it or who doesn't make it they have the ability to choose who's the rock Yeah,

00:13:59.000 yeah.

00:13:59.000 They have the ability to choose.

00:14:01.000 Right.

00:14:01.000 They're going to put this guy in the movies.

00:14:03.000 Because let me tell you something.

00:14:05.000 As good as Tom Cruise is, and he's a great actor, as good as Brad Pitt is, he's a great actor.

00:14:10.000 There's some unknown 28-year-old that can do exactly what they can do right now.

00:14:15.000 Exactly.

00:14:16.000 It's a different kind of skill.

00:14:18.000 It's not like boxing.

00:14:19.000 We don't know who the best boxer is. 0.93

00:14:21.000 We fucking know who the best boxers are. 0.96

00:14:24.000 We watch them. 1.00

00:14:25.000 These guys are out there in little plays and shit. 0.98

00:14:29.000 And you have no idea how good they are because they don't get chosen yet. 0.99

00:14:33.000 And there's Thousands of them!

00:14:36.000 And they're all trying to go to the same spot with a very limited amount of slots for them to get into.

00:14:43.000 And I mean, think about what they have to do.

00:14:45.000 And a little window of time.

00:14:46.000 Yeah.

00:14:46.000 Because you got to get in there while you're attractive, when your skin still looks good, or whatever.

00:14:51.000 I mean...

00:14:53.000 I mean, look at those guys.

00:14:54.000 They're running it as far as they can.

00:14:57.000 I mean, how old is Tom Cruise?

00:14:58.000 Like, 80?

00:14:58.000 He's a thousand years old.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, he's a vampire.

00:15:01.000 Like, he could be. 0.99

00:15:02.000 He looks fucking great. 0.93

00:15:02.000 He looks awesome. 0.93

00:15:03.000 And he's still jumping out of planes.

00:15:05.000 Like, he's flying planes.

00:15:06.000 He's jumping out of planes. 0.99

00:15:08.000 Broke his fucking ankle on a stunt jumping between two buildings. 0.99

00:15:10.000 There's a video of him shattering his ankle. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Yeah.

00:15:13.000 Like, that guy, regardless of, you know, all the crazy stuff that he said.

00:15:18.000 I think the crazy stuff he says is a good part of it.

00:15:20.000 You think so?

00:15:21.000 Yes!

00:15:22.000 I think that's why he's so good.

00:15:24.000 Listen, man, I swore off dating actresses when I was like 27. I was like, they're just too much work.

00:15:30.000 Just too crazy.

00:15:32.000 Especially really good ones. 0.92

00:15:34.000 Because I'm not saying if you're a really good actress, you have to be nuts, but boy, it would help.

00:15:38.000 It would really help. 0.99

00:15:39.000 Because they can lock into a role in some fucking insane way that, you know, like they're crying, screaming and crying. 0.98

00:15:48.000 Nothing happened. 0.99

00:15:50.000 They're pretending.

00:15:51.000 But you would think their mom just died right in front of them.

00:15:55.000 Yeah.

00:15:56.000 It's crazy.

00:15:57.000 The ability to do that is nuts.

00:16:00.000 And some people just have it.

00:16:01.000 And there's a lot of them out there.

00:16:03.000 And I would imagine, if you're really good at that, you don't think Daniel Day-Lewis is crazy.

00:16:08.000 Oh, man.

00:16:09.000 He strikes me as one. 0.77

00:16:10.000 He strikes me as crazy.

00:16:13.000 He also strikes me as fascinating.

00:16:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:16.000 What's going on in his brain, being able to compartmentalize emotion and do the things that he's done.

00:16:21.000 Those scenes from There Will Be...

00:16:25.000 Through Every Blood.

00:16:25.000 Yes.

00:16:27.000 Holy shit, dude. 1.00

00:16:30.000 That's when he crushes that guy's skull in the bowling alley in his basement. 0.99

00:16:35.000 That might be one of the single greatest scenes in movie history.

00:16:41.000 Intense.

00:16:41.000 He is so intense.

00:16:43.000 He's so perfect at that role. 0.92

00:16:46.000 And the camera angles and the way that they were feeding that to the audience was so fucking brilliant.

00:16:52.000 So good. 0.86

00:16:54.000 I drink your milkshake.

00:16:56.000 Yeah.

00:16:57.000 And he's like making the straw, like putting my straw there.

00:17:03.000 Like that guy is incredible.

00:17:05.000 He's incredible.

00:17:06.000 Have you had him on the show?

00:17:07.000 No.

00:17:07.000 I don't even know if he does things like this.

00:17:09.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:17:18.000 Jesus Christ.

00:17:26.000 Like, everything.

00:17:37.000 Jesus Christ.

00:17:42.000 Just everything. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Just beat that guy to death with a bowling pin. 0.97

00:17:45.000 And then every little piece of that was put together perfectly from the way that his face was contorted to the level of breathing that he was participating in and then as he falls down. 0.79

00:17:59.000 This is just so incredible.

00:18:02.000 What is it?

00:18:23.000 Amazing.

00:18:24.000 I don't remember what he did.

00:18:28.000 What did he do that he's beaten him to death?

00:18:30.000 I can't remember either.

00:18:32.000 I think he just...

00:18:35.000 I mean, who knows? 0.76

00:18:37.000 I looked at the individual scenes of the movie and I was like, this is fucking awesome. 0.99

00:18:42.000 Oh, he's insane. 0.99

00:18:43.000 Yeah.

00:18:43.000 He's incredibly good.

00:18:44.000 I think it would help.

00:18:46.000 I think that's what's helping with Tom Cruise. 0.59

00:18:48.000 I think being nutty helps.

00:18:50.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:18:50.000 You have to be. 0.94

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:51.000 Or at least maybe, how much do you think?

00:18:53.000 Have it in you.

00:18:54.000 Maybe you can keep it together most of the time.

00:18:57.000 Do you know there's people that keep it together most of the time, but If something goes sideways, there's like a little switch that you see go off in their head.

00:19:06.000 And you're like, oh, the other Brad is here now.

00:19:10.000 Crazy Brad is here.

00:19:12.000 I've known a few of those guys.

00:19:14.000 Of course you do.

00:19:15.000 We both know guys like that.

00:19:17.000 So there's places that some people, they don't have that room in their house.

00:19:20.000 And this guy's like, I want to show you this room. 0.97

00:19:22.000 And you open up, it's a fucking gigantic man cave with tanks in there and fucking garage lifts and pistols all over the wall. 0.99

00:19:30.000 You're like, oh. 0.99

00:19:31.000 I didn't know you had this room.

00:19:33.000 I like it when you discover people that are secret preppers, that they keep it way underneath their overt personality.

00:19:43.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

00:19:44.000 I was shooting this shit with some guy a couple months ago and he's like, You do me prepping? 0.99

00:19:49.000 I was like, oh yeah, I love it. 0.99

00:19:50.000 It's awesome.

00:19:51.000 It's like, you know, I don't play fantasy football.

00:19:53.000 I participate in these preparation games or whatever because it's just an interesting thought exercise to walk yourself through.

00:20:02.000 And oh, by the way, if something happens, you also have kind of a group of contingencies that you can operate from.

00:20:09.000 And he's like, okay.

00:20:10.000 And it was like I passed the test because I was like, yeah, man, let's go.

00:20:14.000 And then he started...

00:20:16.000 Unpacking everything for me.

00:20:17.000 Oh, yeah, I got a shipping container buried on my property.

00:20:21.000 Yeah, that's cool.

00:20:22.000 So do I. Yeah, I like that.

00:20:24.000 I like it when I see that stuff.

00:20:26.000 Well, it is a good thing to know.

00:20:28.000 You know, Mike Glover's great at that, which got him labeled a terrorist.

00:20:32.000 I think... 0.98

00:20:35.000 He's fucking explaining to people how to prepare in case things go sideways and they're like, you are a problematic individual. 0.99

00:20:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:20:42.000 I don't know how that happens.

00:20:44.000 Well, I do know how that happens.

00:20:45.000 How does it happen?

00:20:47.000 I think you have a bunch of people within the federal government that have a political agenda and or they don't understand.

00:20:56.000 They see any and everyone in the country that owns a firearm as some type of You know, threat at some point.

00:21:04.000 And they have to be what I would say is familiar with all aspects of America.

00:21:12.000 They have to really understand like, hey, there's a group of people out there that prepare for the worst.

00:21:18.000 Hope for the best.

00:21:19.000 That's what they do.

00:21:19.000 And they're really into it.

00:21:21.000 And just because they're going to the range with a group of friends and they're preparing doesn't make them domestic terrorists.

00:21:28.000 It just makes them prepared.

00:21:29.000 Prepared.

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:30.000 And here's the thing that I think people should put in their heads.

00:21:35.000 Does everybody remember?

00:21:37.000 Let me speak to people that live in Los Angeles because this is where it gets rare.

00:21:41.000 Does everybody remember the lines outside the gun stores?

00:21:46.000 Do you remember during the riots there was lines outside the gun stores?

00:21:49.000 Listen to me kids, keep that energy.

00:21:53.000 Keep that energy because that didn't go away forever. 0.93

00:21:57.000 That was just a couple of years ago and the weirdness of life, the weirdness of the way the world works, some shit could pop off Anywhere and everywhere. 0.94

00:22:08.000 That's real. 0.99

00:22:09.000 That's a real possibility.

00:22:11.000 We all saw what just happened in Israel. 1.00

00:22:13.000 It's a real possibility that some shit could pop off. 1.00

00:22:16.000 And to bury your head in the sand and pretend that that's not possible, that doesn't help anybody. 1.00

00:22:21.000 That doesn't help anybody.

00:22:23.000 And to prepare?

00:22:25.000 Why is preparing bad?

00:22:28.000 Do you think that's a...

00:22:30.000 Do you think it's part of the cultural differences between people, just in general, between red and blue and people?

00:22:39.000 What I would say is, the question is there's people that are really individual, they want to take accountability, and there's other people that are like, I want to bury my head in the sand.

00:22:48.000 And I want the government to take care of everything.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:50.000 Do you think that's part of it?

00:22:51.000 It's part of it, but there's also...

00:22:56.000 There's a weird denial of possibility that comes along with not wanting preparedness.

00:23:04.000 And it's one of the rare times, when I look at someone like Mike Glover being labeled a terrorist, it's one of the rare times I go, well, there might actually be a conspiracy to keep people weak.

00:23:16.000 They might want to look at people like that as resistance to authoritarianism, and they want to squash that.

00:23:26.000 It's one of the rare times where I don't look at it objectively.

00:23:29.000 I look at decisions like that and go, oh, you like weak people.

00:23:32.000 You only want weak people.

00:23:34.000 You don't want people to challenge you once you get into power.

00:23:36.000 You don't want people to say, hey, that's against the law, or hey, this is not the way we're supposed to be operating.

00:23:42.000 You want people to just comply.

00:23:44.000 And when no one's armed, people comply.

00:23:48.000 And when everyone's armed, it's really hard to get people to comply.

00:23:51.000 Especially if they're kind of in agreement, if there's a large percentage of us that are in agreement, like, no, you can't listen to all my phone calls.

00:24:02.000 You're just a person.

00:24:03.000 Whether you work for whatever fucking agency, if I'm a guy who works at a tire shop who doesn't do anything wrong and you want to listen to all my phone calls, what? 0.99

00:24:12.000 You're just a person. 0.99

00:24:14.000 Look, if you find a guy who you know is fucking wearing a suicide vest, is about to walk into a wall, you know something's going on, yeah, listen to that guy's phone. 1.00

00:24:22.000 And if you've got a chain of terrorists that you're studying and you need to listen to their phones, fuck yeah, listen to their phones. 0.99

00:24:30.000 If a guy just likes to can peaches, and he owns a couple of 9mms in an AR, you want to listen to his phone? 1.00

00:24:36.000 Hey man, fuck you! 1.00

00:24:37.000 Wait, did you see where, this was last week, or maybe the week before last, they were talking about how they had TSA air marshals following people that were in DC. Not even at the Capitol, but they were in DC during January 6th. 1.00

00:24:53.000 So they'd just been following these people around the United States.

00:24:56.000 Have you seen this?

00:24:57.000 What?

00:24:58.000 Yeah, they were saying they don't have the resources over the Thanksgiving travel period to staff the security needs from the, like, airlines because they had people that were air marshals, I believe, and I'm scrolling through this,

00:25:15.000 following people that were just in D.C. They weren't even, like, implemented in anything.

00:25:19.000 It was wild, dude.

00:25:20.000 What do they follow them for?

00:25:21.000 I don't know.

00:25:22.000 I think...

00:25:24.000 I mean, I think there's a level of intrusiveness in the government that is just...

00:25:28.000 At some point, we have to say it's unacceptable.

00:25:32.000 Like, I think...

00:25:33.000 I mean, obviously, this is a long podcast.

00:25:37.000 We don't need to, like, take down the temperature just yet.

00:25:39.000 But I think...

00:25:41.000 Man, I don't quite understand why they want that level of surveillance activity around people that quite literally might have only been in D.C. during that time period.

00:25:51.000 I think...

00:25:53.000 The amount of pressure that they're putting on people to let them know that if there's ever anything like this again, this is what's going to happen.

00:26:05.000 Everyone's going to jail.

00:26:07.000 People that shouldn't go to jail are going to jail.

00:26:09.000 If the cops let you in the door and they give you a tour, you're going to jail.

00:26:13.000 Like, we're gonna call it a violent insurrection, and everyone's going to jail.

00:26:18.000 And we're gonna let you in.

00:26:19.000 We're gonna open up the barricades, and we're gonna have federal agents in the audience encouraging you to go into the House.

00:26:28.000 And then when we're under oath, we're gonna say we can't answer whether or not federal agents were inciting people to go into the Capitol.

00:26:37.000 How ethically inappropriate do you think everything about that is?

00:26:42.000 It's so bad!

00:26:43.000 It's so bad!

00:26:44.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:26:44.000 If this was happening from the right, if this was Trump doing this, people would be losing their shit. 1.00

00:26:50.000 Be losing their shit. 1.00

00:26:51.000 You should be losing your shit if it happens in any political party. 1.00

00:26:55.000 This is wild. 1.00

00:26:57.000 It's wild.

00:26:58.000 I think...

00:26:59.000 I don't know.

00:27:00.000 And I'm not by any stretch of the imagination going to fix it.

00:27:03.000 But I think, you know, the Bill of Rights is so important.

00:27:06.000 And for people to understand what it means and clearly differentiate between, okay, this is states, this is federal.

00:27:14.000 You know, why are these things so important?

00:27:17.000 Individual liberty comes with responsibility.

00:27:20.000 That's the other piece to this.

00:27:22.000 You and I love freedom.

00:27:24.000 To be fair, it's quite literally my favorite thing. 0.96

00:27:28.000 It's pretty fucking awesome.

00:27:29.000 It's awesome. 0.94

00:27:30.000 You can never have too much, I don't think.

00:27:33.000 No, I don't think so.

00:27:35.000 Because I'm going to take accountability.

00:27:38.000 I'm going to be responsible for my actions.

00:27:40.000 I'm not going to mess with other people.

00:27:43.000 I'm not going to impede on their ability to pursue happiness.

00:27:46.000 Because I'm responsible.

00:27:48.000 But I think...

00:27:50.000 You know, that's me.

00:27:51.000 That's you.

00:27:52.000 I think there's a whole other side of the country.

00:27:54.000 They're like, hey, I don't want any responsibility for this.

00:27:56.000 It's just, it's too much for me.

00:27:58.000 Yeah.

00:27:59.000 I think what you're saying is so important because I think freedom without responsibility is what everyone's scared of.

00:28:07.000 Yeah.

00:28:08.000 You know, when people talk about gun violence or they talk about crime or any, what you're talking about is freedom without responsibility.

00:28:17.000 Even illegal immigration is freedom without responsibility.

00:28:20.000 Mm-hmm.

00:28:21.000 And accountability and responsibility and having things that you have to do is what we need more of.

00:28:27.000 That's what we need more of.

00:28:28.000 You want to have more freedom?

00:28:29.000 We definitely should have more freedom.

00:28:30.000 But we should also have more people that are taking care of their life. 0.98

00:28:35.000 They have their shit together. 0.66

00:28:37.000 So what we should be doing instead of trying to take away freedom, try giving people the tools that they need. 0.99

00:28:46.000 To be more accountable.

00:28:47.000 And to do better in their life. 1.00

00:28:49.000 And to get their fucking shit together. 1.00

00:28:52.000 Like, that should be the number one emphasis. 1.00

00:28:54.000 Not taking away your rights because some people can't handle it.

00:28:58.000 Right.

00:28:58.000 You know, there's just...

00:28:59.000 And that equals everything, right?

00:29:02.000 So then it's like...

00:29:03.000 We'll say that the highly motivated people that will live their life with virtue and courage and pursue all of what I would say is Western philosophic principles...

00:29:17.000 I think we collectively can be trusted with that responsibility.

00:29:21.000 But then you have that other piece that's saying, I don't want to have anything to do with that.

00:29:26.000 I'd rather have a safe, secure existence without any accountability or responsibility.

00:29:32.000 I 100% agree.

00:29:34.000 That's why, and this isn't like, it's not meant to be like over complimentary, but I think that's so, this show and other people, like you and Jocko and Cam and Jordan, whomever else that's kind of out there in the ecosystem,

00:29:51.000 you guys are putting really good information out into the world saying like, I was to reference your podcast with Lex that you did maybe like a year ago.

00:30:03.000 He was asking you straight-up advice.

00:30:05.000 Like, how do you make yourself better?

00:30:07.000 How do you be a better person?

00:30:08.000 You're answering, saying, hey, this is what worked for me.

00:30:12.000 Well, you're obviously successful. 0.97

00:30:14.000 You should be propagating that out into the country, into the world, having men and women and everybody else saying, fuck yeah, I'm gonna take more accountability. 0.98

00:30:23.000 I'm gonna be more responsible for my life. 0.99

00:30:25.000 I'm gonna live radically free because that's fucking cool. 0.90

00:30:30.000 That is what people who live in cities don't like. 0.94

00:30:35.000 If you're living in a city and you're in an apartment building and you're an urbanist, so you have a scarf and you're going to get your latte and maybe you're getting an Uber or you're hopping in the subway.

00:30:47.000 What you like is infrastructure.

00:30:49.000 You know, you like everything to be set up for you.

00:30:52.000 Oh, we have dinner at the Italian restaurant at 7.30.

00:30:55.000 Great.

00:30:56.000 You go over there, you eat food that someone else prepared.

00:30:59.000 You get a glass of wine that someone else grew the grapes. 0.99

00:31:02.000 You're not doing shit. 0.98

00:31:04.000 Other than consuming. 0.98

00:31:06.000 And this is what you enjoy.

00:31:07.000 We're gonna go to the play.

00:31:09.000 We're gonna go to the opera.

00:31:10.000 We're gonna go see a film.

00:31:12.000 Oppenheimer's out.

00:31:13.000 We're gonna go home. 1.00

00:31:14.000 Oh, this person is at the fucking comedy club. 0.99

00:31:17.000 Let's go see that. 1.00

00:31:20.000 Let's constantly consume.

00:31:21.000 And those people say, no, you need to get in shape and you need to start eating well.

00:31:26.000 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:31:28.000 I'm not interested in this.

00:31:30.000 At all. 1.00

00:31:31.000 I want someone to wipe my ass. 1.00

00:31:32.000 I have a seat on the toilet that sprays water up my ass, so I barely have to wipe anymore. 1.00

00:31:38.000 It just hoses my ass down. 1.00

00:31:39.000 I press buttons. 0.99

00:31:40.000 I go to sleep.

00:31:41.000 I take an Ambien.

00:31:42.000 I go to sleep.

00:31:43.000 I wake up in the morning.

00:31:44.000 I go to Starbucks.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, it's almost a prescription for what I would say is, if you want to live within the safety and in the sanctuary of an urban environment where you've got everything mapped out to you, so you've been indoctrinated under a system of,

00:32:02.000 like, bells and whistles, that conformity means everything in academia, which is don't stick out, you know, like...

00:32:12.000 Be on time, be best in class, make sure that you're hitting all your bells and whistles when you move directly into that urban area where you're also working from 9 to 5 or whomever, you know, or whatever.

00:32:25.000 It's like 60, 70 hours a week, but everything is laid out.

00:32:28.000 It's very lockstep conformity all the way through.

00:32:33.000 Dude, I have zero interest in doing that.

00:32:37.000 That sounds like a prison to me, to be honest with you. 1.00

00:32:40.000 That sounds like a fucking prison. 1.00

00:32:42.000 Well, that's what's fascinating is that these people that we're talking about that live in these urban environments that have jobs like that and are not interested in physical health and are going to restaurants and doing all the things, those people are the most fucked up. 1.00

00:32:59.000 They have the most health problems. 0.99

00:33:02.000 They have the most mental health problems. 0.98

00:33:04.000 I'm just guessing. 0.99

00:33:05.000 I'm just guessing.

00:33:05.000 But I know a lot of people that live in urban cities that are on SSRIs.

00:33:10.000 I know a lot of them.

00:33:11.000 There's that 15% of the people that have 85 or below IQ. What percentage of the people that live in cities that live like that are on antidepressants or some sort of psychoactive medication?

00:33:26.000 I read that too.

00:33:28.000 I think it's about the same.

00:33:30.000 I think it's almost equal.

00:33:31.000 There's another like 10% of people out there.

00:33:34.000 So when you think about the numbers, depending on how much overlap there is, there's 50 million people between, you know, below 85 and then that are what you would say is clinically depressed and or on some type of psychological drug, right?

00:33:48.000 So that's like 15% as well?

00:33:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:50.000 I think it's almost equal.

00:33:51.000 Yeah, I wonder how much of those are confined to urban areas.

00:33:54.000 It's gotta be higher.

00:33:55.000 I think it's almost a math thing.

00:33:57.000 It's called standard deviation.

00:33:59.000 There's always gonna be a certain number that are, you know, 15% this way, 15% that way.

00:34:03.000 You know what's interesting with depression is that no one takes into account how well you're doing.

00:34:10.000 Right.

00:34:10.000 Like, don't you feel better when you're doing well?

00:34:13.000 Like, when you have a good relationship, you got a good group of friends, you gotta...

00:34:16.000 Why don't we think of that as medicine?

00:34:19.000 I... I've had a lot of time over the last, I would say, couple years to try to turn the bolts on this to figure out what it is that makes me happy or creates more endurance or energy or whatever it might be.

00:34:34.000 And there's this...

00:34:37.000 Eudaimonia.

00:34:38.000 Have you ever heard of this principle?

00:34:40.000 It's like this old Greek term that they would use to define happiness and fulfillment through hard work and accomplishing your goals and objectives.

00:34:50.000 So it's essentially being happy in establishing very difficult criteria for yourself and then adhering to it.

00:34:58.000 And it's older than the Stoics.

00:35:01.000 And I realized I was like, oh, that's that's kind of what makes me tick.

00:35:05.000 I love Just grinding myself into moon dust like we're talking earlier.

00:35:11.000 I was like I'm running this whole machine in the red all the time, right?

00:35:15.000 It's like I'm 5'7", 160 pounds.

00:35:18.000 So it's like I got to work to put out physical energy to even keep up, you know in a special operations team or Or whatever previous profession that I've had, I've got to push this thing to the red to carry weight, to carry enough energy that I can accomplish a task.

00:35:34.000 And then when you're floating just above maybe an average IQ, you also have to run this thing in the red.

00:35:39.000 There's no, like, plus or minus 5%, dude.

00:35:43.000 Like, I have to get in and grind myself into moondust every day, and I've got to wring this sponge out of it.

00:35:50.000 If I don't, well, I'm going to be just average because I'm average.

00:35:54.000 Right.

00:35:54.000 Yeah.

00:35:55.000 That's a thing.

00:35:57.000 But you found ways to use the way you think about things and figure out a path in life.

00:36:07.000 I think the difference between a guy like you and these people we're talking about is some people are just looking for a place to plug in.

00:36:15.000 And I think that's where the despair comes from.

00:36:18.000 I think the despair comes from not having a real purpose, like not having anything you really built, or anything that you really feel proud of, or anything that you really feel like.

00:36:29.000 Like your company, like Black Rifle, is creative.

00:36:33.000 As well as like really great coffee and cool people and it's all veteran owned.

00:36:39.000 It's like something to be proud of.

00:36:40.000 It's like a real thing.

00:36:42.000 Like you go there.

00:36:43.000 People are smiling.

00:36:44.000 It feels good.

00:36:46.000 You've created this amazing business.

00:36:48.000 Like that's...

00:36:51.000 Right.

00:36:58.000 Right.

00:37:03.000 Right.

00:37:04.000 Right.

00:37:09.000 You gotta hit the links on the weekend and, like, suck up to some other guy that, you know, pleaded, front-docker-wearing, like, back-slapping guy that you're like, ah, man, like... 1.00

00:37:21.000 Maybe he's a cocksucker. 1.00

00:37:23.000 Yeah, maybe he's a complete dick. 1.00

00:37:24.000 Yeah, maybe he's gonna be a dick. 1.00

00:37:25.000 And also, if he's a dick and he's good at golf and you suck at golf, oh, my God. 1.00

00:37:30.000 You're never gonna win any of these fucking conversations when it comes to business. 1.00

00:37:33.000 Or you really just want to do something else? 0.99

00:37:37.000 Like, that I've got to go play golf every weekend?

00:37:39.000 You really want to make folk songs.

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:41.000 I want to play acoustic guitar or be a...

00:37:43.000 I used to, like, have that conversation with guys at the agency because there are people that just...

00:37:50.000 They weren't into the mission.

00:37:53.000 They...

00:37:54.000 To your point, it's like, my purpose, my mission, and kind of the way that I've laid things out...

00:38:01.000 I've always had to work for something bigger than just myself.

00:38:05.000 Like, I can't just be really selfish.

00:38:07.000 It doesn't even compute my DNA. I have to look at something from a bigger purpose, look at the mission, the goals and objectives, be somewhat altruistic, and then just fucking dive in. 0.97

00:38:18.000 Then you can be selfless in some of what you're doing, and you can kind of behave as a cog in the wheel, which I think is actually...

00:38:29.000 A really important piece to development is how many people have ever worked as just a number?

00:38:35.000 Just a number in a machine.

00:38:37.000 Right.

00:38:38.000 You don't feel valuable.

00:38:39.000 No.

00:38:39.000 No, you don't.

00:38:40.000 And creating value with a team with a bigger purpose, I think...

00:38:45.000 That's what guys in the military and guys from my background, as they transition out, they go through what I would say is an existential crisis because their life has meaning.

00:39:00.000 Their essence is clearly defined.

00:39:02.000 They're striving to accomplish a big goal and objective that takes complete intellectual and physical capitulation.

00:39:12.000 And when they get out, they're like, now we have all this freedom, 360 degrees.

00:39:18.000 Well, you have to lay your own life out.

00:39:21.000 You have to redefine your purpose and then drive in as deep as you can.

00:39:25.000 I think they go through a significant existential crisis.

00:39:29.000 Well, that happens to guys that get out of prison, too.

00:39:31.000 Yeah.

00:39:32.000 Guys that get out of prison, a lot of them want to get arrested and go back because they're more comfortable in jail.

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:37.000 They don't like the freedom.

00:39:38.000 They don't like this new life.

00:39:40.000 All their friends are still locked up.

00:39:41.000 Their social connections are locked up out in the street.

00:39:44.000 They're a pariah.

00:39:45.000 They're an ex-con.

00:39:46.000 Right.

00:39:48.000 Some of those things are transitioning into the professional environment, especially from the team room.

00:39:56.000 I was in a team room my entire life.

00:39:59.000 You know me better than most, which is I'm not politically correct.

00:40:03.000 I couldn't build an ecosystem, nor could I have ever survived in the corporate environment because my mind doesn't work like that.

00:40:11.000 I have the diplomacy of a sledgehammer sometimes, and it's not...

00:40:16.000 But at least there's a place for a mind like yours.

00:40:20.000 The thing is, when you're a kid, they tell you there's not.

00:40:22.000 Right. 0.99

00:40:23.000 When I was a kid, man, I was fucking absolutely convinced I was a loser. 0.99

00:40:28.000 Really? 0.99

00:40:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:30.000 Seriously? 1.00

00:40:31.000 Fuck up in school, big fuck up in school, you know, always getting kicked out of classes for making fun of things. 1.00

00:40:38.000 Never had any work ethic at all. 1.00

00:40:40.000 The only time I worked is when I like if I needed money to buy a car or something like that I'd get a job and I'd do that but I was in hell thinking like imagine having to do this for life like although I had a bunch of my dad was an architect so I had a bunch of construction jobs growing up and Those fucking taught me that I don't want to do that.

00:40:58.000 Right.

00:40:58.000 Like, I had a whole summer, I worked with my friend Jimmy Lawless, and I carried cement bags and pressure-treated lumber all summer.

00:41:06.000 It was like, I only worked there for like a couple months, I'm saying all summer.

00:41:08.000 I don't even, might not have been a couple months, might have been a couple weeks.

00:41:11.000 I was 19, and I remember really clearly going, I am never going to be able to do this.

00:41:18.000 Because I would leave at the end of the day, I was toast.

00:41:20.000 I was done, man.

00:41:21.000 I'd go to the gym to work out, I had nothing.

00:41:24.000 I was just so tired.

00:41:26.000 And I realized, like, okay, I can't do this.

00:41:29.000 I admire people who can do it.

00:41:31.000 You can just show up for work every day.

00:41:32.000 I feel like I'm in hell.

00:41:34.000 I gotta find a thing.

00:41:35.000 But I got lucky that there's things.

00:41:37.000 And you got lucky that there's things.

00:41:39.000 But in school, they don't tell you that there's things.

00:41:41.000 They don't say, hey, Joe, I see how you can't pay attention in class.

00:41:44.000 You're always cracking jokes.

00:41:45.000 Like, maybe you should be a comedian.

00:41:48.000 Like, no.

00:41:50.000 Never!

00:41:50.000 They're like, you're gonna fail.

00:41:52.000 Yeah, you're a fucking loser. 1.00

00:41:54.000 You're a loser. 1.00

00:41:54.000 And until I started being good at stuff, I didn't realize that I could. 1.00

00:41:58.000 That maybe I wasn't a loser. 0.93

00:42:00.000 When I started doing martial arts, that was the first time I was like, oh, I could fucking apply myself to things. 0.93

00:42:06.000 I could actually be really good at stuff.

00:42:08.000 It's just a matter of I didn't find a thing that was interesting to me until this.

00:42:13.000 Yeah, it's very similar.

00:42:14.000 Like, you and I had very, very similar backgrounds.

00:42:17.000 Like, my dad was, he was a logger, so he was up at 3, 4 o'clock in the morning every day.

00:42:23.000 Like, I saw this dude just work his entire life, and he was so committed and so disciplined.

00:42:30.000 Like, I never saw my dad inebriated.

00:42:32.000 I always saw him with a lunchbox.

00:42:34.000 He worked in the woods my entire life. 0.99

00:42:37.000 But I wasn't good at shit, which is also good. 0.99

00:42:43.000 I like to fuck around with my buddies and I like to do interesting things, I guess, for that, like try to jump motorcycles or whatever kind of random shit you'd come up with. 0.99

00:42:54.000 But as I got into the military, I was like, oh... 0.99

00:42:59.000 I'm good at this.

00:43:00.000 I'm really good at this for some reason.

00:43:02.000 I can run fast.

00:43:03.000 I can shoot well.

00:43:06.000 I can put together semi-coherent sentences. 1.00

00:43:10.000 Shit, I can be good at this. 0.99

00:43:12.000 This is something I can steal the phrase, accelerate your life or whatever. 1.00

00:43:17.000 I can accelerate my life.

00:43:18.000 It was fun, dude.

00:43:19.000 I could jump out of planes and learn different languages and spend most of my life out of the country.

00:43:28.000 But it was the same kind of evolution.

00:43:31.000 It's like I found this thing that I was really good at.

00:43:35.000 I loved it.

00:43:36.000 And I could just go chips in on it.

00:43:38.000 And it built layers of confidence and allowed me to just build the confidence to say, well, you know what?

00:43:45.000 If I was good at this, I could probably apply this to other things in life.

00:43:49.000 Yeah.

00:43:50.000 And it just compounds.

00:43:52.000 The way I built Black Rifle and why I did was like...

00:43:56.000 My mission statement when I transitioned out was to transition out of government service and live a happy and fulfilling life.

00:44:04.000 That was it.

00:44:06.000 It didn't have anything to do with, you know, money or goals or any of those things.

00:44:11.000 It was how do I define happiness?

00:44:12.000 How do I define fulfillment?

00:44:14.000 And then as we grew the company after about the first year, it became really evident that I could not only do something because I had this beautiful family that I loved, like my kids and my wife, and they're giving me so much power and endurance.

00:44:30.000 What if I built this really cool company where you could leave the family that you love and go to work in a company that you love and then it would become a flywheel.

00:44:38.000 It would just get faster and faster and faster in your life and create more happiness, more fulfillment.

00:44:43.000 What if I could scale that and give that to other people? 0.93

00:44:48.000 And so far, I mean, it's fucking worked. 0.60

00:44:52.000 I feel so happy and I feel so... 0.97

00:44:59.000 I'm so grateful.

00:45:01.000 I'm just so grateful for the things that I've been able to do over the last 10 years.

00:45:07.000 I tell this to people all the time.

00:45:10.000 Go to my refrigerator, pull milk out for my kids.

00:45:12.000 There's not a morning or a day that doesn't go by where I don't thank my customers.

00:45:19.000 They've given me this opportunity.

00:45:21.000 They've given me this opportunity to make crazy art and amazing coffee and build this culture of people that I love. 1.00

00:45:28.000 Fuck, that is cool, man. 0.99

00:45:30.000 It's very cool. 1.00

00:45:31.000 It's them.

00:45:32.000 They did it.

00:45:33.000 They did it for me.

00:45:34.000 I just kind of, like, have facilitated it.

00:45:36.000 But it was the perfect thing for you to plug into.

00:45:39.000 Yeah.

00:45:39.000 And to apply your passion into a new direction.

00:45:42.000 What's interesting, too, about Black Rifle, and by the way, thank you for the cup.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, man.

00:45:46.000 Evan brought me a mug.

00:45:47.000 This is how it thoughtfully is.

00:45:48.000 It's white on the inside so I can see how dark the coffee is.

00:45:51.000 That's a real coffee nerd, folks. 0.77

00:45:53.000 Yeah.

00:45:54.000 It's built perfectly from...

00:45:57.000 Everybody will gloss over and start tuning out, but it's 1 to 16 ratio brew method from 30 grams of coffee in and 480 grams yielded.

00:46:07.000 But then you can see it.

00:46:09.000 How dark is it?

00:46:11.000 How light is it?

00:46:12.000 I built it for the perfect mug based on how many fingers can you get in through the handle.

00:46:19.000 What's the weight of it? 0.99

00:46:20.000 I also build things that if you have to hit somebody in the fucking face with it. 0.99

00:46:27.000 It's got some heft. 1.00

00:46:29.000 These little bitches will break easy. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:46:32.000 This has got a lot more heft to it.

00:46:33.000 It's got a heavy bottom in it, so there's a little bit of thought that went into that. 0.99

00:46:38.000 You can fuck someone up with that, especially if you get your hand around it this way. 0.99

00:46:40.000 That's how I would do it. 0.99

00:46:41.000 I wouldn't hold on to the handle.

00:46:43.000 I'm not trusting this handle.

00:46:44.000 I put my fingers through the handle.

00:46:46.000 I'm looking at this end right here being the most durable spot to hit somebody with.

00:46:50.000 It's got a good edge.

00:46:51.000 Yeah, you don't hit them with up there.

00:46:53.000 No.

00:46:53.000 You get them with this.

00:46:54.000 This is what I'm looking at.

00:46:56.000 I'm looking at a nice angle.

00:46:58.000 See?

00:46:58.000 Yeah.

00:46:59.000 I like what you're saying.

00:46:59.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 This is a good three finger handle too.

00:47:02.000 It's just perfect for my fat fingers.

00:47:04.000 It gets right in there.

00:47:05.000 I got a pinky in the bottom to brace.

00:47:07.000 I like it.

00:47:08.000 See?

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.000 There's a little bit of thought that went into it.

00:47:10.000 Yeah.

00:47:11.000 The coffee thought is nuts, man.

00:47:13.000 When I went to your place and I saw your lab, I was like, this is so preposterous.

00:47:17.000 It is. 0.99

00:47:17.000 You are such a nerd. 0.99

00:47:19.000 The way you measure the exact amount of coffee and you're experimenting with different temperatures by like two and three degrees. 0.86

00:47:26.000 Yeah.

00:47:27.000 It's so crazy.

00:47:29.000 But you can tell, when you make coffee in coffee camp, in hunting camp rather, it was the most spoiled time ever.

00:47:35.000 We get the most insane coffee.

00:47:37.000 And it was hilarious.

00:47:38.000 We ran out of coffee filters.

00:47:40.000 And someone, was it Cody?

00:47:42.000 I think Cody said, oh, we can use a paper towel.

00:47:44.000 You just turned them. 0.99

00:47:45.000 We're not using a fucking paper towel. 0.99

00:47:48.000 I got angry. 1.00

00:47:49.000 I got angry!

00:47:50.000 You did get angry!

00:47:51.000 Because he was serious!

00:47:52.000 I was like, you can't...

00:47:53.000 Are you serious?

00:47:55.000 No, we're not doing that.

00:47:56.000 Like, I'll go to the store, I'll get filters, but we're not doing that. 1.00

00:48:00.000 Well, these guys are fucking cowboys. 1.00

00:48:01.000 They would throw some fucking coffee beans and throw a rock into a fucking thing and pour hot water on it. 1.00

00:48:08.000 They're just like, yeah, this is whatever. 1.00

00:48:09.000 These guys are animals. 0.86

00:48:10.000 Yeah, they're...

00:48:11.000 They're amazing guys.

00:48:12.000 They're amazing guys.

00:48:13.000 They're amazing, hard-working dudes.

00:48:15.000 I love those guys.

00:48:16.000 I look forward to going there every year.

00:48:18.000 Dude.

00:48:18.000 We have so much fun together, too.

00:48:19.000 That's such a fun week.

00:48:21.000 I had so much fun this year, like, for, you know, the people listening, I guess.

00:48:26.000 It's like, I got to watch you do, like, 30 stocks.

00:48:30.000 Yeah.

00:48:31.000 It's a lot of, there's a lot of stocking and blown stocks and missed shots and missed opportunities and you get winded.

00:48:37.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 Elk hunting is amazing, dude.

00:48:40.000 It's amazing.

00:48:42.000 That bull that you killed, Paraphors, like that thing was so cool to watch because I watched the entire thing and I'll recite it from my position because I couldn't really see you.

00:48:57.000 Very well, because you'd moved off.

00:49:00.000 And I'm looking at him from across.

00:49:03.000 I was on one spur, you were on the other, and there's a little valley in between us.

00:49:06.000 But we were probably, I don't know, a thousand yards away.

00:49:09.000 And I'm watching you through my binos, trying to figure out what you're doing, because I could see the bull.

00:49:15.000 And then he got up, and I couldn't tell if you were winded or not.

00:49:20.000 But then all I heard, like, I saw him tear ass up the hill and then tumble down. 0.97

00:49:27.000 He was dead in five seconds. 0.98

00:49:29.000 Really quick.

00:49:30.000 Three and a half, five seconds at the most.

00:49:32.000 And I heard it from across the canyon.

00:49:35.000 You yelled so loud.

00:49:39.000 And we started laughing because you're like, yeah!

00:49:41.000 Yeah!

00:49:42.000 And it echoed all the way down through the canyon.

00:49:45.000 I was like, well, bull down, let's go.

00:49:46.000 Yeah, I give a Ric Flair.

00:49:48.000 Yeah.

00:49:48.000 I give a giant woo.

00:49:49.000 Yeah, they're the fucking most interesting animal to me. 0.99

00:49:54.000 I mean, I've deer hunted, I've bear hunted, I've hunted axis deer. 0.99

00:49:58.000 I've hunted a lot of different animals.

00:50:00.000 But elk to me are like the most majestic.

00:50:03.000 They're the coolest looking.

00:50:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:05.000 They're fucking smart as shit when they smell you. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Their senses are so good. 1.00

00:50:11.000 They're always tuned in to what the fuck is going on, and the only time you catch them slipping is when they're hungry, they're tired, or they want to fuck. 0.99

00:50:19.000 And we caught him when he was tired. 1.00

00:50:22.000 He decided to take a nap. 1.00

00:50:23.000 And I was like, okay, buddy, you just fucked up. 1.00

00:50:26.000 And I creeped in with my socks on. 1.00

00:50:29.000 I creeped in for half an hour.

00:50:31.000 I was moving so slow because his head was kind of turned sideways.

00:50:36.000 Right.

00:50:36.000 And I could never tell if he was looking at me.

00:50:38.000 So I had to make no movement. 1.00

00:50:39.000 I was just inching towards that motherfucker. 1.00

00:50:42.000 And every time you turn away, I get a couple of slow steps and I'd have to stop. 1.00

00:50:47.000 And then I'd have to wonder.

00:50:49.000 I wonder if he remembers what he saw. 0.98

00:50:51.000 When he turned before, and if that fucking tree is closer, I wonder if he's gonna perk up. 0.98

00:50:57.000 It's so exciting. 1.00

00:50:58.000 And your fucking heart's pounding. 1.00

00:51:01.000 And I'm breathing. 1.00

00:51:02.000 I'm doing all these breathing exercises to slow my heart rate down.

00:51:05.000 Oof.

00:51:06.000 So much fun, man.

00:51:07.000 So much fun.

00:51:08.000 And then I'm always...

00:51:09.000 Whenever it gets dark around that spot, I'm always wondering about cats.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.000 Because there's so many cats there.

00:51:15.000 I'm always wondering, what if there's an old one who can't really catch deer anymore?

00:51:19.000 He's like, that thing looks good. 0.99

00:51:21.000 That thing looks slow as fuck. 1.00

00:51:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:24.000 It's that origin camouflage makes you look maybe like caramel or something to a cougar.

00:51:29.000 Yeah, he smells like coffee and sugar.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, he's like jacked up on RTDs and like...

00:51:35.000 Yeah, like I worry about cats.

00:51:38.000 You do?

00:51:38.000 Yeah, but once I saw one in Utah, I was with my friend Colton and we were maybe 30 yards away.

00:51:46.000 He stops the truck and he goes, look at that cat. 0.99

00:51:48.000 He goes, look at that fucking lion under the tree. 0.99

00:51:51.000 I look and I see his eyes glowing. 1.00

00:51:52.000 And I'm like, oh my god, he's huge!

00:51:56.000 And then I get the binos out. 1.00

00:51:57.000 So I'm inside the truck and I'm looking in his fucking face. 0.99

00:52:01.000 It was terrifying! 1.00

00:52:03.000 He was so big!

00:52:05.000 He had these massive forearms, dude.

00:52:08.000 Just jacked forearms.

00:52:09.000 And this big old pumpkin head.

00:52:11.000 I mean, it was a big male cat.

00:52:14.000 And I was like, I'd never seen one that big.

00:52:16.000 I'd seen little ones before.

00:52:18.000 I saw one that looked like it was about 60 pounds and the other one was pretty much the same size.

00:52:23.000 Those are the only two cats I've ever seen before.

00:52:25.000 And I saw them very briefly. 1.00

00:52:26.000 This motherfucker was just sitting there under a tree at dusk with the Big fucking head, man. 1.00

00:52:34.000 And just the feeling of helplessness was overwhelming. 1.00

00:52:37.000 If that thing decided to jump me, it's over.

00:52:40.000 You're done.

00:52:41.000 There's not a thing you're going to be able to do.

00:52:43.000 It's so much stronger.

00:52:44.000 It's a gigantic house cat.

00:52:46.000 Yeah.

00:52:47.000 Do you guys have cats?

00:52:48.000 Not anymore.

00:52:49.000 No.

00:52:49.000 But I've had cats many years.

00:52:51.000 And cats kill so much shit. 1.00

00:52:54.000 They do. 1.00

00:52:55.000 They kill so much shit. 1.00

00:52:56.000 It's always a debate. 1.00

00:52:58.000 My wife and I have gone back and forth on, do we get a cat?

00:53:01.000 Do we not get a cat?

00:53:03.000 They carry some parasite, I guess.

00:53:05.000 Toxoplasmosis.

00:53:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:07.000 Mostly the wild cats get it.

00:53:09.000 Is that what it is?

00:53:10.000 Yeah.

00:53:10.000 It's from wild...

00:53:12.000 It's from rats. 0.97

00:53:13.000 It is a wild parasite.

00:53:17.000 And there's a guy named Robert Sapolsky, is he out of Stanford?

00:53:24.000 I think he's out of Stanford.

00:53:26.000 Psychologist.

00:53:26.000 Brilliant guy.

00:53:28.000 He's done a lot of work on toxoplasmosis.

00:53:31.000 And toxoplasmosis is the reason why they tell people not to touch women that are pregnant not to touch their cat's litter box.

00:53:38.000 Because it can really fuck the kid up. 0.99

00:53:41.000 And it can really fuck you up too. 0.97

00:53:42.000 But what it does with people is wild. 0.97

00:53:45.000 What it does with people is it makes them more reckless.

00:53:47.000 And a disproportionate number of motorcycle victims have tested positive for toxoplasmosis.

00:53:53.000 Some countries, at one point in time, France was as high as 50% of the population was infected by it.

00:53:59.000 What?

00:54:00.000 Yeah. 0.57

00:54:00.000 It is a wild parasite that changes the way you think. 0.57

00:54:04.000 And one of the things it does is, parasites are so fascinating.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:31.000 So the rat goes towards the cat.

00:54:33.000 The cat kills the rat and eats the rat.

00:54:35.000 The only way the parasite can reproduce is inside the cat's gut. 0.94

00:54:40.000 So the cat, which is seemingly unaffected by this parasite, is just making it inside of its body.

00:54:47.000 And then when it gets out, it affects all the creatures around it.

00:54:50.000 It probably does affect cats too, but cats are so crazy anyway.

00:54:53.000 How would you know?

00:54:54.000 It just makes them slightly crazier.

00:54:55.000 But with people, it makes them wilder.

00:54:58.000 Makes them more reckless.

00:54:59.000 Is that why you don't have cats?

00:55:01.000 No, I probably have it.

00:55:02.000 I probably have Toxo.

00:55:03.000 I've had feral cats.

00:55:05.000 I had a feral cat for a while. 0.80

00:55:07.000 He was nuts.

00:55:08.000 He was so nuts that when I had to fix him, he was like, I guess he's like, when I got him, a friend of mine had these cats under her apartment. 0.95

00:55:19.000 And her and her boyfriend captured these cats, these little kittens, and she goes, you want a kitten?

00:55:25.000 And I had a cat already.

00:55:26.000 I'm like, oh, give my cat a friend. 1.00

00:55:27.000 And so I get this fucking cat. 0.99

00:55:30.000 And the moment I see it, it's a tiny little thing. 1.00

00:55:35.000 It's a tiny thing.

00:55:36.000 It's hissing at you like it's a demon.

00:55:37.000 And I pick it up and it instantly starts purring.

00:55:40.000 Purring loud.

00:55:41.000 Like a foster kid who's finally been hugged.

00:55:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:45.000 Just purring.

00:55:48.000 And I was like, oh, this poor little dude.

00:55:50.000 So to get him accustomed to me, I had to stay in one of the bedrooms in this house that I was renting just with him. 0.98

00:55:57.000 So I brought some books in there, I brought his litter box, and I brought cat food, and I just hung out with this fucking cat for like days in this room. 0.92

00:56:06.000 And I had to do it that way because every time I would leave when I'd come back in, he would literally Climb the walls, just hissing and jumping and clawing at the drapes. 0.98

00:56:17.000 It was wild!

00:56:18.000 And then I would corner him, and I'd touch him, and he would start purring it.

00:56:22.000 And then I'd pick him up, and I'd start petting him, and then I'd just sit there, like, reading a book.

00:56:25.000 And I did it for days to get this cat comfortable with me.

00:56:29.000 And it worked.

00:56:30.000 I was the only one he was comfortable with, though.

00:56:32.000 Anybody else who came over the house, you could not pick him up. 1.00

00:56:35.000 You try to pick him up, he would fuck you up. 1.00

00:56:37.000 Like, he'd bite you, he'd claw at you. 1.00

00:56:39.000 But with me, he was cool.

00:56:41.000 It was weird, but he was only cool.

00:56:43.000 I had to slowly approach him.

00:56:45.000 His name was Jack Dempsey, because Jack Dempsey was a hobo. 0.99

00:56:48.000 So I thought it was a good name for him.

00:56:50.000 So I'd pet him, and then he'd immediately start purring.

00:56:53.000 Then I could pick him up.

00:56:54.000 And he was like, you're the only one.

00:56:56.000 I'm like, it's okay.

00:56:57.000 As long as it's just me.

00:56:58.000 You and me, buddy.

00:56:58.000 We're good.

00:56:59.000 So I had to get him fixed.

00:57:01.000 And he must have known that my intentions were different than before.

00:57:07.000 And so he wouldn't let me pick him up.

00:57:08.000 And I had to get him into a laundry hamper.

00:57:10.000 That was the only one I was going to be able to carry him. 0.98

00:57:12.000 So I cornered him in the bathroom, and he's hissing, he's jumping from the tub to the sink, and I'm like, dude, calm the fuck down. 0.94

00:57:19.000 It's just me. 0.93

00:57:20.000 Calm down. 0.99

00:57:21.000 So then I get a blanket, and I throw the blanket over him, and I wrestle him, and I stuff him into this fucking hamper. 0.96

00:57:28.000 And I bring him to this guy, Dr. Craig, who was an amazing guy. 0.96

00:57:32.000 He wound up dying later in a car accident. 0.99

00:57:34.000 It was one of the saddest fucking things. 0.99

00:57:35.000 He was the coolest vet ever. 0.99

00:57:37.000 He was the coolest.

00:57:38.000 And I brought him in and I go, hey man, I don't even know if you could do this.

00:57:42.000 But he's spraying in my house now.

00:57:44.000 He needs to get fixed.

00:57:45.000 But he's wild.

00:57:46.000 And he's like, how wild?

00:57:48.000 I go, look how I have him.

00:57:50.000 I got him in the hamper. 1.00

00:57:51.000 He's in the fucking hamper. 1.00

00:57:52.000 It's like bouncing around. 1.00

00:57:54.000 So they had to hold this cat down somehow or another and anesthetize him, put him out, and then they had to fix him.

00:58:01.000 And then I brought him back and he was cool.

00:58:04.000 He was fine.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, he was cool with me.

00:58:05.000 He was always cool with me. 0.95

00:58:06.000 Like, we got over whatever that was that I fucking kidnapped him. 0.79

00:58:10.000 We got over it and he would let me pick him up again. 0.97

00:58:12.000 But only me.

00:58:13.000 Like, no, my friends, no one, even people that were over the house all the time, no one could pet him.

00:58:18.000 That's actually kind of cool.

00:58:19.000 I probably got toxo from that cat.

00:58:22.000 If I had a guess.

00:58:24.000 That's one of the reasons why we haven't had them. 0.98

00:58:27.000 They are ruthless little murderers.

00:58:30.000 Cats kill billions of birds every year. 0.92

00:58:35.000 B.I. in America.

00:58:37.000 Billions.

00:58:40.000 Billions.

00:58:41.000 That is so nuts.

00:58:42.000 What is the actual number, Jamie?

00:58:43.000 Because it's so crazy.

00:58:44.000 You see the number of small mammals and birds that house cats.

00:58:48.000 Just house cats kill. 1.00

00:58:50.000 I look at my dogs and I'm like, dude, if I leave for 45 minutes, I don't know if you guys are going to make it.

00:58:59.000 They're just fluffy.

00:59:01.000 They live on the couch, basically.

00:59:05.000 There's no wolf left in them.

00:59:07.000 So here's the number.

00:59:08.000 20.7 billion small mammals.

00:59:13.000 The Journal of Nature Communications cats kill between 1.4 billion and 3.7 billion birds and between 6.9 billion and 20.7 billion small mammals.

00:59:26.000 Such as meadow voles and chipmunks.

00:59:29.000 So that's 20 billion mammals and somewhere between 1.4 billion and 3.7 billion birds.

00:59:36.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:59:36.000 They're murderers. 1.00

00:59:37.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:59:38.000 They're fucking murderers. 1.00

00:59:40.000 That's mad respect there because these things are living in our house. 1.00

00:59:43.000 Oh my god.

00:59:45.000 This one says between 1.3 and 4 billion birds and between 6.3 and 22.3 billion mammals. 0.99

00:59:53.000 So it's probably going up every year because there's more cats every year because they keep fucking. 0.98

00:59:57.000 And the wild ones are the, you know, wild cats. 1.00

01:00:00.000 They're fucking unbelievable murderers. 1.00

01:00:04.000 That's fucking wild. 1.00

01:00:06.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:00:07.000 Researchers get that a single cat may kill between 100 and 200 mammals annually.

01:00:13.000 Just murders!

01:00:15.000 I could have a barn cat.

01:00:17.000 That'd be cool.

01:00:18.000 Well, they will definitely keep rats away.

01:00:19.000 Yeah.

01:00:20.000 They have a function on farms.

01:00:23.000 They're great.

01:00:24.000 100%.

01:00:24.000 They're great.

01:00:25.000 They're great at doing that.

01:00:26.000 If you want to have a wild cat, that's the place to have them. 0.99

01:00:28.000 They fucking keep everything away. 0.96

01:00:30.000 There's this hunting lease that my friend Tyler from Archery Country has. 0.99

01:00:34.000 And we went there and there's this cool fucking wild cat that hangs out there. 0.98

01:00:38.000 But he's like domesticated. 0.99

01:00:39.000 He comes up to you and rubs up against you and you're like, what's up little buddy?

01:00:42.000 And that cat just kills everything.

01:00:45.000 All he does is, I mean, I don't think anybody feeds him.

01:00:47.000 I think he just wanders around that ranch killing everything he needs to eat.

01:00:52.000 That's a great life.

01:00:53.000 It's a great life for him.

01:00:54.000 He's so happy.

01:00:56.000 Because he loves people.

01:00:58.000 He's not a wild cat in a sense that he's not domesticated.

01:01:02.000 Because he does come right up to you and rubs up against you.

01:01:05.000 And you pat him and he rubs over.

01:01:07.000 You can rub his belly. 0.66

01:01:08.000 He's not worried about people at all.

01:01:09.000 Everybody treats him really nice.

01:01:10.000 So he's like a sweet, sweet cat.

01:01:13.000 But no one's feeding him. 0.96

01:01:15.000 He's just a little murderer. 1.00

01:01:16.000 Just running around eating rats and mice and fucking birds. 1.00

01:01:21.000 I've got a whole new respect for him, like, reading that. 1.00

01:01:23.000 I had no context to the billions of animals, or the small rodents and shit that they're murdering every year. 0.98

01:01:31.000 That's amazing. 0.97

01:01:31.000 It is amazing, but what's also kind of crazy, that they also seem content to just chill in an apartment. 0.97

01:01:37.000 Like, cats don't seem to have a problem being in an apartment.

01:01:40.000 I went out to Ryan Holiday's bookstore yesterday.

01:01:46.000 Oh, okay.

01:01:46.000 And I just cruised around in there because it's like 20 minutes outside of town.

01:01:51.000 And he's got two cats cruising around in there.

01:01:54.000 Hanging out in the bookstore?

01:01:55.000 Yeah, hanging out in the bookstore and laying on boxes and running around. 0.98

01:01:59.000 I was like, ah, that's fucking cool, man. 0.96

01:02:00.000 That's cool. 0.99

01:02:01.000 Yeah.

01:02:02.000 Look, I love cats.

01:02:03.000 It's just like my kids are alerted to them.

01:02:06.000 It's a real problem.

01:02:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:07.000 Yeah.

01:02:08.000 And my wife's allergic to them, too. 0.80

01:02:10.000 But I prefer dogs. 1.00

01:02:11.000 But my dog is an amazing dog, but he's dumb as shit, too. 1.00

01:02:16.000 And so I just got him back from the hospital. 0.99

01:02:19.000 I'm going to send this to you, Jamie.

01:02:21.000 So you can see these pictures.

01:02:22.000 I just got him back.

01:02:24.000 So we came home the other night, and Marshall had eaten chicken food that was outside on gravel, but he didn't bother to differentiate between the gravel and the chicken food, so he ate about two pounds of gravel.

01:02:40.000 And I'm not exaggerating.

01:02:42.000 Two pounds of gravel.

01:02:43.000 It was pounds of gravel.

01:02:44.000 There was so much gravel that he ate that he threw up.

01:02:49.000 That's a pile of gravel that he threw up.

01:02:51.000 That's one of seven piles of gravel.

01:02:54.000 Show the other picture that I sent you?

01:02:55.000 That's my foot for reference.

01:02:58.000 I just sent you another one.

01:03:01.000 That one.

01:03:02.000 So that, we found that.

01:03:03.000 Oh my gosh!

01:03:03.000 That's all gravel that he threw up.

01:03:07.000 So that's once he threw up like six times in the house and then the seventh time, it looks like he threw up several different times there.

01:03:15.000 So I took him to the emergency vet and they do an x-ray and he still has gravel in his stomach and gravel in his colon.

01:03:24.000 And they're not as concerned about the gravel in his colon, but they were concerned about the gravel in his stomach.

01:03:28.000 So I had to take him to a hospital where he stayed overnight for two days and they gave him liquid therapy.

01:03:34.000 They put an IV to him and they monitored him.

01:03:37.000 And they made sure that he was okay. 0.60

01:03:38.000 And he eventually shit out all the gravel, and they didn't have to do surgery, but there was a concern that there could be an obstruction. 0.84

01:03:44.000 But they finally let him out today, and he's fine. 0.99

01:03:46.000 But, like, that's the kind of shit you have to deal with if you have pets. 0.99

01:03:51.000 He ate gravel! 1.00

01:03:52.000 He ate two pounds of gravel!

01:03:53.000 My Golden's name is Potato.

01:03:55.000 And I rebranded him because his first name was Maximus.

01:04:00.000 And we were driving down the road one day. 1.00

01:04:02.000 I was like, this dog needs a naming rebrand because his fucking brain is like a potato. 1.00

01:04:08.000 And then that was it. 1.00

01:04:09.000 Does Maximus have his balls? 1.00

01:04:11.000 Does he have his balls? 1.00

01:04:12.000 No. 1.00

01:04:12.000 Yeah, that's the thing. 1.00

01:04:13.000 We adopted him.

01:04:15.000 He was like two years old when we got him.

01:04:17.000 I've got a golden doodle and a golden...

01:04:19.000 So they're just...

01:04:21.000 One's beans, one's potato.

01:04:23.000 The other one's Dr. Beans.

01:04:25.000 I've met Dr. Beans.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, Dr. Beans is the best.

01:04:28.000 He's a cool dog.

01:04:29.000 Yeah, he's the chillest of the chill.

01:04:32.000 I'm not like a cat hater, but I absolutely prefer dogs.

01:04:36.000 There's a thing, I have a relationship with my dog.

01:04:39.000 He's like my friend.

01:04:40.000 Yeah.

01:04:41.000 Like I come home, I could talk to him, he listens to me, he kind of knows what I'm saying.

01:04:45.000 You know, like there's little things that we do, like, you want to get the ball? 0.98

01:04:49.000 He just pops up like, let's fucking go! 0.97

01:04:51.000 These videos of me with him with the ball. 0.98

01:04:53.000 I've never been more excited in my life about anything, maybe other than elk hunting.

01:04:57.000 Right. 0.98

01:04:57.000 This dog is fucking bouncing around, he's going, and every day I'm like, is he gonna be bored? 0.98

01:05:01.000 We could do this ball thing every day. 0.99

01:05:03.000 There's not a fucking day where he's bored. 0.98

01:05:05.000 He's like, the ball's out! 1.00

01:05:07.000 Holy shit, we're gonna do the ball! 0.99

01:05:09.000 It's like he's so simple. 0.99

01:05:11.000 But if you had a guy come in and you're like, you want to get the elk?

01:05:14.000 You want to get the elk, Joe?

01:05:15.000 You'd probably be the same way. 1.00

01:05:17.000 You'd be like, fuck yeah. 1.00

01:05:18.000 No, the thing is... 1.00

01:05:20.000 With elk hunting, the only way it's really exciting is if it's hard.

01:05:24.000 Yeah.

01:05:25.000 That's what was so exciting about that hunt that you watch from a distance. 0.99

01:05:27.000 It's like, I had to creep in on this fucking dude and hope the wind didn't shift. 0.99

01:05:32.000 I had to creep in on this dude and hope that he didn't catch me moving. 0.99

01:05:35.000 I had to hope that there was a window where I could draw.

01:05:39.000 Once he gets up, what if he's getting up facing me and I can't draw?

01:05:43.000 And I'm trying to figure out when do I draw.

01:05:45.000 There's a lot going on.

01:05:47.000 I know I ranged him at 50, but I took two steps.

01:05:50.000 What is this right here?

01:05:51.000 Is he at 48?

01:05:53.000 Is he at 47?

01:05:54.000 Like, where do I aim?

01:05:56.000 There's so much going on that that's what, when it's successful, that's what's so exciting, that it's hard to do. 0.97

01:06:02.000 The ball's fucking, he knows that ball's coming every day, but he's so excited. 0.98

01:06:06.000 It's like instant gratification. 1.00

01:06:08.000 He's like, the ball's coming!

01:06:10.000 Woohoo! 1.00

01:06:10.000 Did you shoot that bow yesterday? 1.00

01:06:12.000 Yes.

01:06:13.000 So what's the difference?

01:06:14.000 It's smoother.

01:06:15.000 It's better.

01:06:15.000 It's smoother?

01:06:16.000 Yeah.

01:06:16.000 They made a few significant changes.

01:06:19.000 There's a new Hoyt bow that just came out.

01:06:21.000 What are they calling it?

01:06:22.000 See if you can find it.

01:06:23.000 The Keep Hammer in addition.

01:06:24.000 I think it's the VXM 33. Did you go up?

01:06:27.000 Are you still at 80 or did you go up?

01:06:29.000 I have two bows.

01:06:30.000 I have an 80 and a 90. Okay.

01:06:31.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 So one's at an 81 or 82 and the other one's at 90. Can you feel the difference?

01:06:37.000 Yeah.

01:06:37.000 You feel it when you pull it back.

01:06:38.000 What about an accuracy?

01:06:42.000 Well, they're both super, super accurate.

01:06:45.000 The thing is, you just can't shoot as many arrows in a day with a 90-pound bow.

01:06:50.000 I've figured that out a long time ago, which is why I got an 80. I have a 60 at the studio, which is like a kid's bow.

01:06:56.000 It's amazing.

01:06:57.000 You draw it back, it's just so easy.

01:06:59.000 I just use that one for practicing my form, because it's just nice to have a bow at the studio.

01:07:05.000 And then there's the 80 that I shot Elon Musk's bow.

01:07:09.000 A Cybertruck with.

01:07:10.000 Dude.

01:07:10.000 That just happened to be laying around here, too.

01:07:12.000 That thing just bounced right off of it. 0.91

01:07:14.000 That was actually one of the fucking coolest videos. 0.95

01:07:17.000 It's pretty cool. 0.99

01:07:17.000 He let me shoot his truck with a bow. 0.99

01:07:19.000 He's like, oh, yeah, you want to go shoot it? 1.00

01:07:21.000 Let's shoot it. 1.00

01:07:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:22.000 Okay.

01:07:22.000 So it's got a little scratch on it now forever.

01:07:25.000 The tiniest scratch, too.

01:07:27.000 Right. 0.99

01:07:27.000 And it's a fucking heavy-ass arrow from an 80-pound bow. 0.99

01:07:30.000 And it didn't do shit to that door. 1.00

01:07:33.000 Just blew it up. 0.89

01:07:34.000 Yeah.

01:07:34.000 Blew up the arrow.

01:07:34.000 But the new Hoyts, they...

01:07:36.000 One of the things about bows, for people who don't know, unlike firearms, which are essentially, like, if you have a, like, a SIG P365, that's what that gun is.

01:07:49.000 Like, if you got that gun five years ago, like, they made a comp version of the 365, so they put compensation in the barrel, which makes it a little better, a little easier to shoot.

01:07:58.000 That's the...

01:08:00.000 They make, essentially, the same kind of gun with small improvements for years and years.

01:08:05.000 Like, if you buy a five-year-old gun, it's still a top-of-the-line gun, right? 0.97

01:08:09.000 Bows, somehow or another, through engineering and these fucking wizards, they make them better incrementally every year. 0.99

01:08:19.000 They really do. 0.99

01:08:20.000 Like, I noticed the difference between last year's bow and the year before.

01:08:24.000 Like, the moment I shot, I was like, wow, this is smoother.

01:08:26.000 And one day, just for... 1.00

01:08:29.000 The fuck of it. 0.99

01:08:30.000 I picked up the previous year's bow. 1.00

01:08:32.000 And I was noticing a difference.

01:08:34.000 I was like, oh, this doesn't feel as good.

01:08:36.000 The draw cycle's not as good.

01:08:38.000 The release doesn't feel as smooth.

01:08:39.000 But it was better than the year before.

01:08:41.000 And so last year's bow, I was like, how are they going to top this?

01:08:44.000 This bow is amazing.

01:08:45.000 It's so accurate.

01:08:46.000 It's so smooth.

01:08:47.000 Boom.

01:08:48.000 They did it.

01:08:48.000 They topped it.

01:08:49.000 They keep making them better.

01:08:51.000 They're more efficient.

01:08:52.000 They pull back smoother.

01:08:54.000 They're more dead in the hand.

01:08:56.000 This bow feels like nothing when it goes off.

01:08:58.000 Nothing.

01:08:59.000 It goes off.

01:09:00.000 There's like zero vibration.

01:09:02.000 It's incredible.

01:09:03.000 Whatever they're doing in terms of like this is a particular design of their riser.

01:09:09.000 That the vibration, even if it goes through the bow on the shot, almost none of it is going through your hand.

01:09:15.000 It's incredibly dead in the hand, which leads you to be more accurate.

01:09:20.000 Everything is about accuracy and efficiency and smoothness and comfort.

01:09:25.000 Have you transitioned over to that stand clicker yet?

01:09:28.000 Have you tried that thing?

01:09:29.000 I do like that, but I keep going back to the Noctuit because the thing about the stand clicker is this is nerd talk folks.

01:09:37.000 It makes your draw length one quarter inch longer because it's one quarter inch longer than the head of the Noctuit, which I'm so accustomed to.

01:09:47.000 So all my anchor points are slightly different.

01:09:49.000 So with the stand, the string is just a quarter inch further forward.

01:09:54.000 And there's something about that that maybe I have to get used to.

01:09:58.000 Maybe if I pull harder on the wall, I maintain the same stability.

01:10:02.000 Or maybe if I extend my arm out a little bit more, I maintain the same stability.

01:10:06.000 I'd have to transition and try it.

01:10:08.000 Because I've been using Dudley's archery releases for so long.

01:10:13.000 Like, between the Too Smooth, the hinge, which I really like, and then his other one, the Noctuit, which is the thumb button, that I really like.

01:10:21.000 I'm just so used to those.

01:10:22.000 I keep going back.

01:10:24.000 Like, I've tried, you know, the Stand Clicker, the Stand 9 Clicker.

01:10:28.000 I think it's the T. I've had the Hinge.

01:10:31.000 I've had a bunch of these, and I keep coming back.

01:10:33.000 I'm the most accurate, hands down, with the Noctuit.

01:10:35.000 I think it's just because I've got...

01:10:37.000 So many reps.

01:10:38.000 It feels so natural.

01:10:40.000 Now that I've got that thing dialed to like super hot.

01:10:44.000 Hot sauce.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, it's hot sauce.

01:10:46.000 You breathe on it wrong and it goes off.

01:10:49.000 You got to be careful with those.

01:10:50.000 You got to always check them because I've had it when those are really hot with Carter releases.

01:10:55.000 Well, they'll go off just based on the amount of tension that's on the string because I'm pulling so much weight.

01:11:00.000 Right.

01:11:00.000 You know, so I always, wherever I like it, I crank it a little bit stiffer now.

01:11:05.000 Just a little bit.

01:11:06.000 Just a little bit. 0.99

01:11:08.000 I wanted so I could put my thumb on it and know that the slightest amount of back pressure, that motherfucker's going off. 0.99

01:11:17.000 Just the slightest amount. 0.99

01:11:18.000 So when I get that...

01:11:20.000 Then I go to my shot process.

01:11:22.000 I don't have any concerns about it going off.

01:11:25.000 It's just everything's there. 0.99

01:11:27.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99

01:11:28.000 And it's off. 0.99

01:11:29.000 And I feel like that, to me, is the most accurate.

01:11:33.000 And there's a lot of different schools.

01:11:35.000 A lot of people like it very heavy.

01:11:37.000 And what they do is they hook the button in here, in the crook of their thumb, and then they pinch their finger around it.

01:11:43.000 And they can get a good grip, and then they're just all pulling with their back muscles, and that makes it go off.

01:11:50.000 And you can do that too.

01:11:52.000 But I think that's because they want an absolute surprise shot.

01:11:56.000 Because they're concerned they're going to punch the trigger in that moment.

01:11:59.000 But I think the real thing is about controlling that moment.

01:12:02.000 The real thing is about staying cool in that moment.

01:12:05.000 And that's the hardest part of it.

01:12:07.000 And I think the less anxiety you have about your release, the better. 0.99

01:12:10.000 I know that motherfucker's going off if I wanted to. 0.98

01:12:13.000 But I also know how to do the shot process correctly. 0.99

01:12:16.000 So that's my little...

01:12:18.000 What I've learned is I like it hot.

01:12:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:21.000 I like that bitch hot. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:25.000 That's where I'm at because I had mine set way too tight and I would be...

01:12:31.000 Essentially, it'd be pulling and pressing on the release slow, looking at it kind of like a firearm trigger, saying slow pressure, build the pressure, straight back, no deviation.

01:12:43.000 And I'd go through this entire shot process from the rifle that I was incorporating into the bow.

01:12:50.000 But I'm taking too much time on the back end really building into my thumb release versus when you're ready...

01:12:59.000 And everything's dialed.

01:13:01.000 You get your ring overlap.

01:13:03.000 Your level's good.

01:13:04.000 Everything's set.

01:13:05.000 It's time to go.

01:13:07.000 It's time to go.

01:13:08.000 You can't be building to the shot.

01:13:10.000 Hot sauce.

01:13:12.000 That is the way to go.

01:13:13.000 Yeah.

01:13:13.000 The way to go is hot sauce with a good shot process.

01:13:17.000 But you have to have a controlled shot process.

01:13:19.000 In my mind, I have a whole process, that Joel Turner process, that I put myself through.

01:13:24.000 So it's really just all about not hammering the trigger over anxiety.

01:13:30.000 It's really all just about staying calm and letting it happen and knowing exactly what you're doing.

01:13:35.000 Do you concentrate on breathing through your nose and trying to get more oxygen as you're going through the thought process or do you just open your mouth?

01:13:44.000 I concentrate on breathing through my nose when I'm calming myself down as I'm moving towards the show. 0.99

01:13:49.000 In that particular moment, my heart was pounding as I was closing the gap because I was like, I think I'm going to get this motherfucker. 0.99

01:13:56.000 And it's exciting. 0.99

01:13:58.000 Stalking on a bedded elk is very exciting.

01:14:02.000 I had to get within 50 yards because there was a log in front of him.

01:14:06.000 There was this down tree.

01:14:08.000 And the only gap was I had to go up, up above him, and 50 yards. 0.97

01:14:14.000 And when I'm doing this, as I'm like creeping in there, there's so much anticipation that your heart's just fucking pounding.

01:14:21.000 And that's what I'm doing, the breathing exercises.

01:14:24.000 But once I get there, I'm telling myself that I'm calm.

01:14:27.000 Once I'm there, I'm not allowing myself to get ramped up again once I'm in position.

01:14:33.000 So once I'm in position, it's just task-oriented.

01:14:36.000 It's just that I'm just completely locked in on his vitals and my shot process.

01:14:41.000 That's all I'm thinking about.

01:14:44.000 And what I like about hot sauce is when I get to that spot and I'm at full draw, there's no other things to think about.

01:14:50.000 I got that pin on his vitals, my bubbles leveled, everything feels good, pow pow!

01:14:56.000 Whack! 1.00

01:14:57.000 And then you can have fun.

01:15:00.000 Then you can go back to just being a normal human.

01:15:03.000 But in that moment, for me, I have to be task-oriented. 0.99

01:15:08.000 If I'm thinking about it, I'm not thinking, I hope I don't miss, none of that shit. 0.99

01:15:13.000 I'm not letting any of that in. 0.98

01:15:14.000 All I'm thinking is task.

01:15:17.000 I have a task.

01:15:18.000 Very clear task.

01:15:20.000 There's gonna be weird decisions that I'm gonna have to make, because who knows what he's gonna do when he gets up.

01:15:25.000 Is he gonna go left?

01:15:26.000 Is he gonna go right? 1.00

01:15:27.000 What if that asshole steps behind the tree and now I'm fucked again? 1.00

01:15:30.000 I have no shot. 1.00

01:15:32.000 If he just stepped and went left, which they do all the time, now I'm behind that log again and I'm fucked. 0.98

01:15:38.000 Do you have any anxiety or that same type of build where your heart starts to increase? 0.96

01:15:47.000 Is your stepping on stage?

01:15:48.000 Any stage?

01:15:49.000 No.

01:15:50.000 No, you have none of that left?

01:15:51.000 No, I had that in the beginning.

01:15:52.000 Yeah.

01:15:53.000 Yeah, in the beginning there was a full panic.

01:15:55.000 But no.

01:15:56.000 You have zero now.

01:15:57.000 No, now it's just exciting.

01:15:58.000 Now it's like, now I have a whole thing I do where I get myself ramped up, I jump around, I stretch before I go, I smoke another word.

01:16:08.000 Occasionally I have a little cocktail, but the whole idea is just get loose, get loose.

01:16:13.000 Which is the best thing about comedy is you're doing it with a bunch of other people that are doing comedy.

01:16:16.000 It's almost like you're all going on stalks together. 0.97

01:16:18.000 So we're all hanging out in the green room talking shit, and we're all going on the same show. 0.97

01:16:22.000 So we're having fun, and it's like everybody's lively. 0.98

01:16:26.000 So the thing is you just don't want to go on stage cold.

01:16:28.000 You would never want to wake up Like alarm clock, get up, ladies and gentlemen, Evan Hafer!

01:16:38.000 He'd be like, it would be terrible.

01:16:41.000 It would take a while for you to warm up.

01:16:44.000 It would take a while for you to get into the groove.

01:16:47.000 So you gotta be at entertainment groove.

01:16:51.000 As you step on stage.

01:16:53.000 So there's like anticipation, but there's nothing like the anxiety of elk hunting.

01:16:58.000 Nothing's even close.

01:17:00.000 It has a strange effect because I don't get hardly any anxiety ever for anything really like unless I'm in a car wreck or something right where it's I'm not trying to do that but the elk hunting for some reason you you get in front of this animal and You get ramped up. 0.99

01:17:20.000 I'm always talking to myself like, what the fuck? 0.98

01:17:25.000 It's not like the swords on this thing's head are going to come after you. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Why are you doing this?

01:17:31.000 Why is your body doing what it's doing right now?

01:17:34.000 So I have to have this whole process of calm myself down, breathe through my nose.

01:17:39.000 And then once I get into the shot, it's fine.

01:17:43.000 But building into that shot for some reason, you start going, I need to wear a heart monitor and just watch to see how high that thing gets as you're moving in on a stock on the animal.

01:17:54.000 Because As you're building into that moment, there's that time before you can settle into that position where You're questioning, like, why am I so, so ramped up right now?

01:18:09.000 I don't exactly know why.

01:18:11.000 So then you have to dial everything back, pull everything back into perspective, focus on what you're doing.

01:18:16.000 And then once you have a task, and the task is there, then it seems to just settle down and get right back into the moment.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, once you have the task.

01:18:25.000 It's moving into position.

01:18:27.000 But sometimes I can stop it.

01:18:29.000 When I was in Utah...

01:18:32.000 We were on this one ridge, and on this other ridge was this big bull that was running these cows.

01:18:39.000 He was the king of the mountain.

01:18:40.000 You could see by his body, this is an old bull.

01:18:43.000 And he's running these cows.

01:18:44.000 But he's way over.

01:18:47.000 You've got to go down and all the way up.

01:18:50.000 He's way too far for us to...

01:18:52.000 And we're out in the open.

01:18:54.000 There's no way you're going to plant a stalk on this bull in the position that he's at.

01:18:57.000 Especially with the way the thermals are all going up. 0.98

01:19:00.000 So we start moving down this canyon, and as we're moving down this canyon, the bull just randomly decides to run his cows down into the bottom, and they're realizing, oh shit, this can happen. 0.87

01:19:14.000 And so as that's happening, I stop myself from getting ramped up. 0.93

01:19:20.000 Completely stopped it.

01:19:22.000 I just recognized it was possibly coming because I see him making his way down this ridge, and he's going right to where we're going, and we know that there's a pond down there.

01:19:32.000 So if the pond is where he's going, he's going to go to get a drink, and he's going to come right down through this bottom, and that's where he's going to be at.

01:19:39.000 And I stayed calm the entire time.

01:19:41.000 I never let myself ramp up.

01:19:42.000 I never got ramped up. 0.96

01:19:44.000 I mean, I was probably above normal heart rate, but I was pretty fucking calm. 0.80

01:19:49.000 And then he came right out to 62 yards. 0.71

01:19:51.000 It was perfect.

01:19:52.000 He was right out there.

01:19:54.000 It was perfect.

01:19:55.000 Everything went, drew back, whacked them, watched them go 30 yards and pile up.

01:20:01.000 And it was watching the whole thing play.

01:20:03.000 And at the end of it, then I was like, that was pretty calm.

01:20:06.000 I stayed pretty calm in that one.

01:20:08.000 Like, for whatever reason, I never got, I stopped it as it was happening.

01:20:12.000 Yeah, I would imagine the more reps you get in, the easier it becomes.

01:20:15.000 Yeah, but the next one was like a month later.

01:20:18.000 I was super ramped up.

01:20:19.000 Huh.

01:20:20.000 I think it was the stock part of it.

01:20:22.000 The creeping in is like more sneaky than anything.

01:20:27.000 This was like an ambush.

01:20:28.000 Right, right.

01:20:29.000 You know?

01:20:30.000 There's something about like creeping in on them.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, there's the momentum, right?

01:20:34.000 You're letting the drama build to the story.

01:20:37.000 You're like, okay, we know what's going to happen.

01:20:40.000 Have you talked about this with Cam?

01:20:43.000 Does Cam, does he still get ramped up at all?

01:20:46.000 He's pretty calm.

01:20:47.000 His resting heart rate has to be like three.

01:20:51.000 I think that certainly helps.

01:20:54.000 I think the amount of cardio that you do has an effect on how you can maintain your heart rate.

01:21:00.000 It just must.

01:21:01.000 It has to.

01:21:01.000 And if someone has like a low resting heart rate, I would just imagine they'd have more control on bringing their heart down.

01:21:08.000 It just makes sense.

01:21:10.000 Totally makes sense, you know?

01:21:12.000 And he's just calm.

01:21:13.000 He's done it so much, man. 1.00

01:21:16.000 He's a killer. 0.99

01:21:17.000 He knows how to stay calm under pressure. 0.98

01:21:19.000 And there was like one yard kills that one video that he had.

01:21:23.000 Oh my god, that was insane.

01:21:24.000 That was crazy.

01:21:25.000 Dude.

01:21:26.000 One yard, like a yard and a half or whatever he was from that thing.

01:21:30.000 It was as far as you are to me.

01:21:31.000 God, man, that's nuts.

01:21:32.000 Nuts.

01:21:33.000 Like, that guy, I went out and did his podcast a couple months ago.

01:21:38.000 We had so much fun.

01:21:39.000 Like, he's such a fantastic human.

01:21:43.000 Like...

01:21:45.000 Very infrequently do you just bump into people.

01:21:48.000 You're like, that guy's salt of the earth.

01:21:49.000 He's reached and then he's gone way above expectation as far as the type of person he is.

01:21:58.000 He's awesome.

01:21:59.000 Yeah, he's an amazing person.

01:22:00.000 So this dude named Schaefer, he made a rap song about Cam.

01:22:05.000 We played it on the podcast the other day.

01:22:07.000 It's number eight in the hip-hop charts now.

01:22:10.000 Seriously?

01:22:10.000 In the all-around hip-hop charts.

01:22:13.000 And it was number...

01:22:14.000 No, I think it's number six now.

01:22:16.000 And it was number like 90 in all songs.

01:22:21.000 It's a rap song about a bowhunter, and it's number six in the hip-hop charts.

01:22:26.000 Yeah.

01:22:28.000 Because that makes sense.

01:22:30.000 Yeah, just because we talked about it.

01:22:32.000 It's bonkers.

01:22:34.000 It's a good song, though.

01:22:35.000 The guy's good. 0.99

01:22:36.000 The kid's fucking talented. 0.99

01:22:37.000 I'll have to check it out. 1.00

01:22:38.000 Yeah, but it's just nuts. 0.95

01:22:39.000 I have to piss so bad. 0.54

01:22:41.000 Let's piss, we'll come back. 0.95

01:22:42.000 All right. 1.00

01:22:43.000 But yeah, it's all random shit. 0.99

01:22:45.000 How was the carnivore guy? 0.99

01:22:49.000 He was great.

01:22:50.000 He was great.

01:22:51.000 He's still alive. 0.89

01:22:52.000 Crazy.

01:22:53.000 Guy's eating only meat for seven years. 1.00

01:22:55.000 It's fucking wild. 1.00

01:22:57.000 He's wild. 1.00

01:22:58.000 He's thriving.

01:22:59.000 Are you still doing only meat?

01:23:00.000 Yeah, I cheat every now and then.

01:23:02.000 On Saturday night, I cheated.

01:23:03.000 I had sushi. 0.99

01:23:05.000 Sushi was great, but I felt like shit afterwards. 0.99

01:23:07.000 I felt like I ate a brick. 0.99

01:23:09.000 I never feel like that if I just eat.

01:23:10.000 Yeah, it's just right.

01:23:11.000 I ate a lot, though.

01:23:12.000 I overate.

01:23:13.000 I overordered.

01:23:14.000 They were really nice, and I felt obligated to keep eating.

01:23:17.000 Thanksgiving, you don't do potatoes, nothing like that.

01:23:20.000 I did this Thanksgiving.

01:23:21.000 But most other days, like today, for breakfast, I had elk sausage, eggs, and bacon.

01:23:28.000 That's a normal breakfast for me.

01:23:30.000 Hmm.

01:23:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:32.000 I don't know.

01:23:33.000 I steer clear of...

01:23:35.000 I think I just meat, vegetables, and a limited amount of fruit.

01:23:39.000 Because I still like vegetables.

01:23:41.000 Like, that's the problem with...

01:23:42.000 Yeah, I like vegetables.

01:23:43.000 I like bok choy. 0.97

01:23:45.000 Yeah.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, I like squash.

01:23:46.000 We had some sweet potatoes the other night that were great.

01:23:50.000 But I've completely cut out everything else.

01:23:53.000 I don't drink hardly at all.

01:23:56.000 Very, very limited.

01:23:59.000 Everything is gone.

01:24:00.000 No breads, no rice.

01:24:02.000 That's good.

01:24:02.000 If you can do that, you'll feel better.

01:24:05.000 It sounds nuts, but the way he described it and the studies that he shows, there's enough evidence to point to that, at least for some people, that's a very beneficial way to eat and live.

01:24:17.000 But I think really what it is is This thing of eating only meat, I think for sure meat's very nutritious, but I think a big factor in that is that you're just cutting out all the crap.

01:24:29.000 And if you just eat only meat and organic vegetables, I don't think that's bad.

01:24:33.000 I don't buy it.

01:24:34.000 I don't buy that salads are bad for you.

01:24:36.000 I think that's crazy.

01:24:38.000 And it's good.

01:24:39.000 It tastes good. 1.00

01:24:40.000 I think what's bad is the shit they spray on them, for sure. 1.00

01:24:44.000 Glyphosate is bad. 1.00

01:24:45.000 Seed oils are bad.

01:24:46.000 No one's out there saying seed oils, industrialized seed oils are good for you.

01:24:51.000 They're not, but olive oil is good for you.

01:24:52.000 So you can have olive oil and balsamic vinaigrette on a nice salad.

01:24:56.000 I don't think that's bad.

01:24:58.000 Some heirloom tomatoes, some onions, some olives, you know?

01:25:03.000 My wife did like a whole gardening thing this year. 1.00

01:25:06.000 Ooh, that's nice.

01:25:08.000 So we had this giant garden with, you know, heirloom tomatoes and a bunch of stuff.

01:25:14.000 It was amazing.

01:25:14.000 It was awesome.

01:25:15.000 Dude, when you get an heirloom tomato right off the vine, slice that bad boy up, put a little salt on it, a little balsamic vinaigrette.

01:25:23.000 Chop up some avocados.

01:25:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:25.000 Dude, it's amazing.

01:25:26.000 Amazing.

01:25:27.000 Is there anything that's worse for the environment than avocados?

01:25:30.000 It's like avocados and almonds, I think.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, almonds.

01:25:34.000 It's like 10 gallons of water for one almond.

01:25:38.000 You see people shoveling them down.

01:25:40.000 You're like, oh, there's where all California's water goes, right there.

01:25:44.000 Oh, but I was reading this thing recently, but I think the discovery was from 2021 about a new, very inexpensive method of desalination.

01:25:57.000 Is that how you say it?

01:25:58.000 Salination?

01:25:58.000 I know what you mean.

01:26:00.000 How do you say that?

01:26:01.000 How do you say the word?

01:26:02.000 But anyway, removing salt from water so that you could use ocean water.

01:26:06.000 Mm-hmm.

01:26:07.000 But that they were going to be able to have them available in like a home-size version.

01:26:12.000 It's like not even that big, like a suitcase size, I think it is.

01:26:15.000 Really?

01:26:16.000 Yeah, and it can literally desalinate the water that comes from the ocean, and you can turn it into drinking water.

01:26:22.000 That's like a game-changer.

01:26:24.000 Game-changer.

01:26:24.000 Yeah.

01:26:25.000 But this is what I've always said.

01:26:26.000 Like, I used to have a bit about people wanting to go to Mars.

01:26:29.000 You know, like...

01:26:31.000 Like, you know, America, we have a water problem. 0.99

01:26:34.000 I go, we're right next to the fucking ocean. 0.98

01:26:37.000 The last thing we have in California is a water problem. 0.99

01:26:40.000 We have a salt problem. 1.00

01:26:41.000 There's so much fucking water. 0.99

01:26:43.000 It could eat us up. 0.99

01:26:45.000 It could literally devour the entire state with one giant wave, and we could be living on the beach in Arizona. 1.00

01:26:51.000 Like, this fucking thing moves all the time. 0.99

01:26:54.000 There's so much water! 1.00

01:26:55.000 We don't have a water problem!

01:26:58.000 We have a salt problem.

01:26:59.000 Yeah, I think the Israelis have actually figured that out. 0.98

01:27:03.000 They have like full plants that they're out there doing.

01:27:07.000 I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie, because I saved, I think I screenshotted it with the intention of looking it up later to make sure it's legitimate.

01:27:14.000 But I'm pretty sure it is.

01:27:17.000 Yeah, how much stuff do you typically, when you're thinking about, how many episodes have you done now?

01:27:28.000 2000-something.

01:27:29.000 2000?

01:27:29.000 Yeah, and then a bunch of Fight Companions, and then a bunch of MMA shows.

01:27:33.000 So it's more than 2000. When you think about all the different pieces of information that you've cataloged in your head with all these different interviews, I can't imagine the information that you've put out, too, just in terabytes as far as the volume is concerned.

01:27:49.000 Now you've got interviews with Elon, from Jordan, from all these different people.

01:27:56.000 That's so much information.

01:27:58.000 How much do you think that you've been able to just store in your head?

01:28:02.000 Not so much.

01:28:04.000 Desalination system could produce fresh water that is cheaper than tap water.

01:28:08.000 MIT engineers and collaborators develop a solar-powered device that avoids salt-clogging issues of other designs.

01:28:16.000 This is from September 27th of 2023. I don't know why I thought it was earlier than that.

01:28:22.000 I found this very similar titled article from a year ago and even 2021 too.

01:28:27.000 Okay.

01:28:27.000 That's probably where I saw it.

01:28:29.000 So, engineers at MIT and in China are aiming to turn seawater into drinking water with a completely passive device that is inspired by the ocean and then powered by the sun. 0.96

01:28:38.000 That's fucking amazing. 0.86

01:28:40.000 This is where science is incredible. 0.99

01:28:44.000 Okay.

01:29:10.000 That's amazing.

01:29:12.000 And then also, couldn't you just recapture the salt and use it?

01:29:15.000 Seems like it.

01:29:16.000 Produces about four to six liters of drinking water per hour and lasts several years before requiring replacement parts.

01:29:22.000 One of the things that Gary Brecco is saying that I found What was shocking was that some Himalayan salt, like you always think of Himalayan salt as super healthy.

01:29:32.000 He said, no, some of it has mercury in it because some of it, the way they mine it, if they get too close to certain areas that contain mercury, it can be contaminated with mercury.

01:29:43.000 And he was recommending Celtic salt over Himalayan salt.

01:29:49.000 Interesting.

01:29:51.000 So you can actually get Celtic salt.

01:29:54.000 Yeah, Celtic salt.

01:29:55.000 I don't know.

01:29:56.000 I guess you just order it.

01:29:57.000 You've got to hope they're telling the truth. 1.00

01:29:59.000 One thing I found out through this lady that was a beekeeper that came on here, she goes, a lot of the honey you buy is bullshit. 0.98

01:30:03.000 Like when people are buying honey, they're buying like corn syrup. 0.98

01:30:06.000 They think they're buying honey.

01:30:07.000 It's like some honey.

01:30:08.000 It's like drugs.

01:30:09.000 They're cutting it with baby powder.

01:30:11.000 Yeah, one of my really close friends, that's what he does.

01:30:15.000 He's a beekeeper.

01:30:16.000 So I've been out there like helping him with the bees.

01:30:19.000 Oh, it's saying Celtic sea salt and Himalayan sea salt can expose your children to too much lead, mercury, and other heavy metals.

01:30:26.000 Whoa.

01:30:27.000 So Celtic salt can have it too.

01:30:30.000 So, none detected.

01:30:32.000 So, it looks like, what's the best salt?

01:30:35.000 So, Celtic gray sea salt.

01:30:38.000 It seems like it has a lot of mercury.

01:30:40.000 It's lead.

01:30:40.000 Blue is lead.

01:30:41.000 It's a lot of lead.

01:30:42.000 Mediterranean sea salt.

01:30:43.000 So, what has the least lead seems like Israeli sea salt.

01:30:48.000 Of course it does.

01:30:51.000 I don't know who made this test.

01:30:53.000 Did the Israel Times put this out?

01:30:55.000 I don't know.

01:30:58.000 There is mercury, though.

01:30:59.000 No, pink salt does not contain mercury.

01:31:02.000 Unrefined sea salt.

01:31:04.000 There is...

01:31:04.000 So it's controversial.

01:31:06.000 ...minerals in it, but also other minerals in it.

01:31:08.000 But who's saying it doesn't include mercury?

01:31:12.000 Where does it say no?

01:31:13.000 You said no, sea salt does not...

01:31:15.000 It said pink salt.

01:31:16.000 It didn't say sea salt.

01:31:17.000 It said specifically pink salt.

01:31:18.000 No, pink salt does not contain mercury.

01:31:20.000 Okay, but some can...

01:31:23.000 Is that people that are selling it?

01:31:25.000 Yes, it's from Nepal.

01:31:26.000 Okay, maybe from Nepal it doesn't contain mercury.

01:31:29.000 What they were saying, I think what Gary Brecker was saying was some of it's from China that contains mercury.

01:31:35.000 Well, that's not Himalayan, is it?

01:31:37.000 Well, I guess it's technically.

01:31:38.000 I don't know.

01:31:39.000 You know, I don't know.

01:31:40.000 I mean, when I'm buying salt, I'm not really looking into it. 0.97

01:31:42.000 You know what's really fucking good? 0.97

01:31:44.000 What is that? 0.96

01:31:44.000 There's this veteran-owned company. 0.96

01:31:46.000 Is it Firecracker?

01:31:47.000 Firecracker.

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

01:31:48.000 Dude.

01:31:49.000 Dude.

01:31:49.000 That stuff's legit.

01:31:51.000 It's so...

01:31:55.000 Here's something that you can do, which is you put a little bit of that in your coffee.

01:31:59.000 I'm telling you, dude, it's good.

01:32:00.000 It is good.

01:32:01.000 I bet it would be good in bone broth.

01:32:03.000 Oh my gosh, man.

01:32:04.000 And that stuff, like hard-boiled eggs, game changer on hard-boiled eggs.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 I'll make, the other day I had some people over and I was like just chopping them hard by legs.

01:32:12.000 This is it right here, Firecracker Farm.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, I love this guy.

01:32:15.000 Super legit.

01:32:16.000 Yeah.

01:32:17.000 And tastes good too.

01:32:18.000 It's amazing.

01:32:19.000 Yeah.

01:32:20.000 Because sauces come with all the, like the sauce, right?

01:32:23.000 And this, this sounds like a straight up commercial.

01:32:27.000 It's not.

01:32:28.000 I love this guy and I love his product.

01:32:29.000 It's awesome.

01:32:30.000 So you know the dude who's running this company?

01:32:32.000 Yeah, we DM each other back and forth all the time.

01:32:34.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:32:35.000 And he sent me, Mike Glover, and Andy a bunch of this stuff.

01:32:39.000 And most of the time, I'm like, eh.

01:32:41.000 I think I found out about it from Eddie Gallagher.

01:32:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:44.000 Eddie loves it, too.

01:32:45.000 It's legit.

01:32:46.000 It's very legit. 0.99

01:32:49.000 It's hot as shit. 0.99

01:32:50.000 I put something, when I got it, I cranked it out, put it in my hand and licked it. 0.99

01:32:52.000 I was like, whoa, daddy! 1.00

01:32:55.000 My daughter had some kids over and they were messing around in the kitchen and they got some in their fucking eyes. 1.00

01:33:01.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:33:02.000 Oh my gosh.

01:33:02.000 You know what's shockingly legit?

01:33:04.000 This stuff.

01:33:04.000 Wicked Cuts, Carolina Killer, Beef Jerky.

01:33:08.000 Is that hot?

01:33:08.000 Oh my god is it hot.

01:33:10.000 It's like hot sauce. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Like fucking Carolina Reaper hot. 1.00

01:33:13.000 Okay, alright. 0.99

01:33:14.000 Like uncomfortable hot. 0.99

01:33:15.000 It's like damn. 1.00

01:33:17.000 Because you think like a big company like Wicked Cuts, they're not gonna fuck you up. 1.00

01:33:21.000 They're gonna give you a little hot. 0.91

01:33:23.000 It's like if you get one of them, what is it, Burger King has a spicy whopper, like a ghost whopper, sure you do. 0.71

01:33:28.000 You're not fucking anybody up with that whopper. 0.99

01:33:30.000 This stuff will fuck you up. 0.99

01:33:32.000 Really? 0.99

01:33:32.000 Oh, it'll fuck you up. 0.99

01:33:33.000 You want to try a piece? 0.99

01:33:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:34.000 It'll fuck you up. 1.00

01:33:35.000 Throw me some. 0.99

01:33:35.000 It's legit. 0.99

01:33:36.000 It's good, too.

01:33:37.000 It's moist.

01:33:39.000 I hope it's not like preservatives that make it moist like that.

01:33:41.000 You know, you always wonder.

01:33:43.000 Because, like, whenever I get jerky from, like, the butcher, like, I'll have some of my elk turned into jerky.

01:33:49.000 It's not the most moist.

01:33:50.000 No.

01:33:51.000 You know?

01:33:51.000 It's dry.

01:33:52.000 It's tough.

01:33:54.000 But it's delicious.

01:33:56.000 It's good for your jaw muscles.

01:33:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:58.000 I started using one of those stupid jaw muscle things. 0.99

01:34:01.000 I have one of those, jaw exercise. 0.99

01:34:03.000 Yeah, I use that all the time.

01:34:04.000 I use it while I'm doing...

01:34:06.000 I actually learned this from this guy that I follow on Instagram.

01:34:08.000 Shout out to Bill Maeda.

01:34:10.000 He does it while he does neck exercises.

01:34:13.000 I'm like, oh, that's legit.

01:34:15.000 Put one in your mouth while you're doing the iron neck. 0.84

01:34:18.000 It's legit, right? 1.00

01:34:19.000 Spicy as fuck, right? 0.99

01:34:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:22.000 Like, shockingly.

01:34:23.000 Shockingly hot.

01:34:24.000 Yeah.

01:34:24.000 Like, yo, you're not playing.

01:34:26.000 That's legit.

01:34:28.000 I like a hot sauce, man.

01:34:31.000 Senor Lechuga, you know, Half Face Blades, they did a combo with Senor Lechuga, and they put out this, it's like, it's got dried tomatoes, sun-dried tomatoes, It's got,

01:34:46.000 I forget what the hot is, but it's also got truffles. 0.92

01:34:51.000 It's fucking so good. 0.95

01:34:54.000 And it's hot. 0.99

01:34:55.000 It's got like real, Senor Lechuga is, so we did three.

01:34:59.000 We put together three different sauces that I love that are like a collection.

01:35:02.000 And one of them is the Half Face Blades version.

01:35:05.000 So Half Face Blades, by the way, awesome company. 0.98

01:35:07.000 They make fucking amazing knives. 0.94

01:35:10.000 And he's actually making me a set of chef knives and a couple other knives with the antler shed from the big bull that I killed with you two years ago. 0.99

01:35:21.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

01:35:22.000 So we got a shed from that bull and he's making knife handles.

01:35:27.000 Yeah, I got some out of my mousse that I killed with Dudley a few years ago. 0.82

01:35:32.000 It was a dink.

01:35:34.000 It was like a tiny little bull mousse.

01:35:36.000 But delicious, nonetheless.

01:35:39.000 And I got a bunch of chef knives from him.

01:35:41.000 Oh, that's so cool.

01:35:42.000 It was so cool.

01:35:43.000 And they're, you know, it's ceremonial, right?

01:35:46.000 You pull them down off the rack, you're cutting into the steaks or the moose meat or whatever it is that you're eating.

01:35:51.000 It's phenomenal.

01:35:53.000 From an animal that you harvested.

01:35:55.000 Everybody loves them. 0.99

01:35:56.000 They're like, these are fucking awesome. 0.99

01:35:58.000 Yeah, that's killer. 0.99

01:35:59.000 Stuff like that is killer.

01:36:01.000 My point was, Senor Lechuga hot sauce, that's another one. 1.00

01:36:05.000 If you like it hot, but tasty, Senor Lechuga will fuck you up. 1.00

01:36:10.000 That stuff fucks you up, right? 0.99

01:36:11.000 Dude, I ate a whole bag of it, and I was playing pool, and my stomach was hurting. 0.82

01:36:15.000 I was like, oh boy.

01:36:17.000 I was like, this is rough.

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 That's no joke.

01:36:20.000 Yeah.

01:36:21.000 Like, that is no joke.

01:36:23.000 Yeah, like, surprisingly, for a big company to put out a beef jerky that's that spicy.

01:36:30.000 Woo! 0.99

01:36:31.000 So what's next?

01:36:33.000 What's going on?

01:36:34.000 Like, from a context of, like, you just opened up your club.

01:36:38.000 What's the next big thing?

01:36:39.000 Are you going on tour?

01:36:40.000 I don't know.

01:36:40.000 I'm thinking about starting touring again.

01:36:42.000 I think right now I'm just having fun.

01:36:45.000 And now that hunting season's over, I can chill.

01:36:48.000 I'm getting back into jujitsu.

01:36:49.000 I want to do that soon. 0.96

01:36:50.000 And then just fucking enjoying my time. 0.94

01:36:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:54.000 That's it. 0.99

01:36:56.000 I think we were talking about this in California.

01:36:59.000 Did you build this here as part of getting reps in, just getting rep after rep?

01:37:07.000 Yeah.

01:37:07.000 Well, I built it because there wasn't a home base here.

01:37:09.000 Right.

01:37:10.000 You know, when all these comics came out with me, we moved out and we found out that we could perform in Austin.

01:37:15.000 And for comedians, like, performing is like a drug.

01:37:18.000 It's like, you can't perform?

01:37:19.000 Like, LA shut everything down for so long.

01:37:21.000 And then The Grapevine got out, like, from November 2020. We were doing shows here, totally irresponsibly, indoors.

01:37:29.000 And they were like, what?

01:37:30.000 They're doing comedy indoors in Austin?

01:37:32.000 This is crazy.

01:37:33.000 They packed shows and put them up on Instagram. 1.00

01:37:35.000 People were like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:37:36.000 This is nuts. 0.99

01:37:38.000 And so many comics started moving here.

01:37:41.000 And then I realized what we missed about L.A. We missed about the Comedy Store was that was home base.

01:37:46.000 In that you need, like, comedians need a community.

01:37:48.000 You need, like, a home club.

01:37:50.000 You need where a bunch of comics hang out.

01:37:52.000 You fuel each other.

01:37:54.000 Everybody inspires each other.

01:37:56.000 You know, when you're seeing these guys like Brian Simpson going up and murdering, he's doing all this new material, and Shane Gillis is going up and murdering, and Tony Hinchcliffe is going up and murdering, there's, like, a feeling in the building.

01:38:06.000 Like, there's an excitement to the building.

01:38:09.000 And that's what I wanted to create here.

01:38:11.000 I wanted to create a real home for For these comics.

01:38:14.000 And I also wanted to create a real development platform.

01:38:17.000 I think that's a key part of comedy clubs that's missing from these places that just want to make money.

01:38:23.000 Because you could take your Sunday and Monday and just bring in headliners and pack the house and make a lot of money.

01:38:29.000 Or you can do open mic nights and develop talent and have these people have a real opportunity to get up at the best comedy club on earth for their very first time ever and go up and do a couple of minutes of jokes and see if you can get a laugh and you never know.

01:38:44.000 You might be good.

01:38:46.000 You might have it in you. 0.96

01:38:47.000 You might be that fuck up in school that they always told you you're going to be a loser, but you have a funny way of saying things and you go up and maybe you have some insight that other people, maybe they would Be too scared to say or maybe they wouldn't notice it or maybe you'd point something out you never fucking know and the only way You get to develop talent is if you have some sort of a place for people to perform that aren't any good that are just starting out So we set aside two nights for that Every Sunday and every Monday we have open mic night and we also have people that 0.98

01:39:17.000 work there are aspiring comedians all the door people they all had to they all had to audition with their act So the town coordinator, Adam, had to go and watch them perform.

01:39:30.000 And there was this giant audition for door people.

01:39:33.000 For people to get jobs at the club.

01:39:35.000 So there's this feeling in the club like everybody's coming up.

01:39:39.000 Everybody's coming up together.

01:39:40.000 When everybody's doing good, Ahsan, who's just a fucking amazing dude and hilarious comedian who's at the club all the time, he said, whenever something happens with the door people or anybody else in the club, everybody always says, we up.

01:39:55.000 We up. 0.54

01:39:57.000 I'm like, that's amazing.

01:39:58.000 That's amazing.

01:39:59.000 Something cool happens, we up, we up!

01:40:02.000 And they'll yell it.

01:40:03.000 That's cool.

01:40:03.000 It's great.

01:40:04.000 So that environment, that's what I wanted to create.

01:40:08.000 That was the goal.

01:40:09.000 But it's way better than I thought it could be.

01:40:11.000 It's like, I had an idea.

01:40:14.000 I was like, let's just do it the best we can.

01:40:16.000 And turns out, you got some Spotify money.

01:40:20.000 You can throw in a problem.

01:40:22.000 You can make it really good and have it set up where the comedians get paid really well and everybody gets taken care of and you feel really good about it and it's a fun place to work and it's a good environment for everybody.

01:40:33.000 That's what I wanted.

01:40:34.000 So that's what we put together.

01:40:36.000 It almost seems like the center of gravity from comedy has moved off the coast to Austin.

01:40:45.000 And I think, and I'm probably not the first person to say that, but you're the guy that has kind of moved the epicenter of comedy over here.

01:40:54.000 Well, I gave him a spot.

01:40:55.000 I created a spot.

01:40:56.000 I mean, it was me because I financed it and it was my idea, but it was also, we all need a spot, and if one of us can do it and put it together, I'm a good person to do that, because that's what I like to do.

01:41:09.000 I like to help people.

01:41:10.000 I like to blow people up.

01:41:12.000 I really do.

01:41:13.000 I love to have people on that I think are talented and let the world know about them.

01:41:18.000 When I talk about things, whether it's on my Instagram or on the podcast, 99% of the time, I have no affiliation with those things.

01:41:27.000 I just think these are good things.

01:41:29.000 People should see these good things.

01:41:30.000 I don't think, oh, I should get a piece of that.

01:41:33.000 I just think these are good things.

01:41:34.000 These good things should make more money.

01:41:36.000 This business should be bigger.

01:41:38.000 This comedian should be more popular.

01:41:40.000 This musician should be known.

01:41:41.000 People should read this book.

01:41:43.000 These are good things.

01:41:44.000 Just put good things out as much as you can.

01:41:46.000 So that was my idea with this comedy club.

01:41:48.000 Just... 0.98

01:41:49.000 Get great comics, pay them well, and have a place where people can go where they know that they're gonna be able to work on their act, everyone's phone's locked up, so that people aren't distracted and they're not filming things, and just having a good fucking time. 0.98

01:42:02.000 Enjoying this. 0.89

01:42:03.000 Let's just work together and fucking all get better together and have a real home base. 0.98

01:42:09.000 And I had the ability to do it, so I said, it's kind of my obligation to do it. 0.93

01:42:13.000 The universe put me in this place where All of a sudden, I moved out of LA. All of a sudden, I'm in Texas, and all these other comedians come out here with me.

01:42:23.000 I'm like, who's going to do it if I'm not doing it?

01:42:25.000 I have to do it.

01:42:25.000 So we just went and did it.

01:42:27.000 And with a fucking grab of... 0.99

01:42:29.000 Ron White grabbed me by my shoulders when he got off stage. 0.99

01:42:32.000 The first time he got on stage, he hadn't done stand-up in like over a year, I think it was, or close to it.

01:42:37.000 And he grabs me by my shoulders. 0.99

01:42:39.000 He goes, whatever the fuck we got to do. 0.99

01:42:41.000 He goes, you're going to open up that club, and we're going to do this. 0.99

01:42:44.000 He hadn't done stand-up in so long.

01:42:47.000 And he was so... 0.99

01:42:48.000 He fucking murdered. 1.00

01:42:49.000 And he went on stage and there was this giant standing ovation. 1.00

01:42:51.000 It was insane.

01:42:53.000 I wish we filmed it.

01:42:54.000 Because it was such a beautiful moment.

01:42:56.000 It was his first time doing stand-up forever.

01:42:58.000 And he was kind of genuinely concerned about it.

01:43:01.000 He listened to his material.

01:43:03.000 He went over his notes. 0.99

01:43:04.000 He worked on it all fucking day. 0.99

01:43:06.000 And so he went up that night. 0.99

01:43:07.000 He was just...

01:43:10.000 Just on it.

01:43:11.000 And so, you know, Ron White is like, he's a good friend, but he's also kind of a hero.

01:43:17.000 Like, to me, like, in comedy, he's like, he's a legend.

01:43:20.000 So, like, we have Ron White here?

01:43:22.000 Like, of course.

01:43:23.000 What do you want to do?

01:43:24.000 You want to open up a club? 0.97

01:43:25.000 I'll buy a club.

01:43:26.000 I'm like, let's do it.

01:43:28.000 And so, that was the, you know, this was the second place I bought, right?

01:43:32.000 I told you about the first place.

01:43:33.000 It was owned by a cult.

01:43:34.000 Yeah.

01:43:35.000 He told me to buy that place, too.

01:43:36.000 You did?

01:43:37.000 Yes.

01:43:37.000 You should buy that place owned by the cult.

01:43:39.000 Fucking beautiful theater. 1.00

01:43:42.000 It was on BK's Road. 1.00

01:43:43.000 Fucking gorgeous theater. 1.00

01:43:45.000 Owned by a cult. 1.00

01:43:47.000 Boy, then I watch the cult document and I'm like, oh fucking no. 0.99

01:43:50.000 What is this? 0.99

01:43:51.000 What happened here?

01:43:53.000 There's so much bad juju going on in that building.

01:43:56.000 So many bad vibes.

01:43:58.000 So many people lost their lives.

01:43:59.000 Like literally lost their lives forever in that building. 0.99

01:44:03.000 That's fucking wild. 0.99

01:44:04.000 It's wild. 1.00

01:44:05.000 Yeah.

01:44:06.000 It's still a theater.

01:44:07.000 I think they still do shows there.

01:44:08.000 God.

01:44:09.000 They built that theater for that dude to dance in front of his followers.

01:44:16.000 That's a whole other segue.

01:44:18.000 It's like how crazy cult leaders are and what type of personality that person is and what happens to people.

01:44:27.000 I love those mockumentaries that a few people have done around cult leaders, and I think there's a series on Netflix that went into like a three-part episode.

01:44:36.000 Yeah, How to Be a Cult Leader, I think it's called. 0.86

01:44:38.000 Yeah, it's fucking hilarious. 0.93

01:44:40.000 Well, it's just like you were talking about before, while 15% of the people have an IQ lower than 85, and some people just want to be led. 0.97

01:44:47.000 There's a bunch of people, a bunch, who are really lost and never develop the tools to be, Personally responsible for themselves.

01:45:01.000 They never developed the ability to be autonomous.

01:45:04.000 They never developed the ability to have their own thoughts and the objective analysis of all the information and coming up with a rational conclusion.

01:45:15.000 They don't have people around them that could bounce these ideas off, that they respect, that they can go, what about this?

01:45:20.000 And that person goes, yeah, but you have to also consider this.

01:45:23.000 And you're like, yeah, you do, right?

01:45:24.000 Hmm, okay, so what is really going on? 0.94

01:45:27.000 Like they don't have that in their life and so some fucking dude comes along and he's wearing Speedos and he does yoga and he tells you he can give you the knowing and you can be in touch with God and you just fucking you buy into it and it's it feels better than being by yourself and you're hanging out with all these people and everyone's cooking together and you're doing yoga together Seems good. 0.96

01:45:45.000 Seems great. 0.98

01:45:46.000 It seems like a good time, like that wild, wild country.

01:45:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:45:49.000 You remember that?

01:45:50.000 Yeah, that was great.

01:45:51.000 Me and my friend Todd were talking about this once, and he's a real sweet guy.

01:45:55.000 He's a funny guy.

01:45:56.000 But he was like, in the beginning, he was like, God, I want to live like that.

01:46:00.000 It all goes bad at the end, but in the beginning, we're like, God, I want to live like that.

01:46:04.000 I go, I kind of want to live like that, too.

01:46:06.000 Everybody wants to be a part of something bigger than them, and especially if it's a cool community where everybody's nice to each other, and you're all connected to God, and you're all part of this movement of spreading love and hope throughout the world.

01:46:23.000 Seems great in the beginning.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, it seems utopic.

01:46:27.000 Yeah.

01:46:27.000 It's like a drug.

01:46:28.000 I think people have this natural inclination to look towards a leader.

01:46:33.000 So it's like looking towards an alpha chimp in a pack or the leader of a tribe is a natural inclination to look to someone who gets it. 0.99

01:46:39.000 And if your brain's not that good... 1.00

01:46:42.000 Someone can come along and fucking throw Scientology in your face. 1.00

01:46:46.000 You're like, I like it. 1.00

01:46:46.000 I like it. 1.00

01:46:48.000 I get my own planet when I die?

01:46:52.000 You can convince them. 1.00

01:46:54.000 You can fucking sell it! 0.99

01:46:56.000 Especially if you're successful, if you're running a giant church, clearly you must know what you're doing. 0.99

01:47:03.000 You just pulled up in a Rolls Royce.

01:47:04.000 This guy knows what he's doing.

01:47:05.000 He's a cult leader.

01:47:06.000 He comes out.

01:47:07.000 People are opening the door for him.

01:47:08.000 They're calling him the Beloved.

01:47:10.000 You must be legit.

01:47:11.000 Maybe I found the real guy.

01:47:13.000 A real guy is attached to God energy.

01:47:17.000 How do you think about that from a leadership perspective?

01:47:22.000 You've had a ton of guys on, but you find yourself as a leader.

01:47:27.000 You find yourself as a voice.

01:47:28.000 Does that come natural?

01:47:30.000 I just do my best.

01:47:33.000 To be, like, the best version of me that I can be.

01:47:36.000 And if that also...

01:47:39.000 If part of that is talking about the things that I've learned, then I do that.

01:47:43.000 But there's no part of me that says, like, I need to be a leader.

01:47:48.000 There's no...

01:47:49.000 I don't... 1.00

01:47:49.000 I think you could really fuck your head up if you start believing that. 1.00

01:47:52.000 And I think that's where the cult starts. 1.00

01:47:54.000 That's where the cult starts.

01:47:55.000 The guy goes, I'm a leader.

01:47:56.000 I need to teach these people.

01:47:58.000 They need to follow my way.

01:47:59.000 It's like...

01:48:02.000 Probably not.

01:48:03.000 Maybe you need a leader, too.

01:48:04.000 Maybe everybody needs to work together.

01:48:07.000 Maybe that's a better option.

01:48:09.000 I think the whole leader thing is there might be people that you admire or you see them as someone who is a great example of how to live life, like whether it's Jocko or many of these people that put that out there.

01:48:22.000 Jocko is one of the best examples of it.

01:48:24.000 He's written books about extreme ownership.

01:48:27.000 There's valuable, valuable lessons in that kind of stuff.

01:48:31.000 But I think even with guys like him, it comes natural.

01:48:36.000 He is just telling you what he learned.

01:48:39.000 This is real.

01:48:40.000 This is what you need to do. 0.99

01:48:41.000 If you want to get ahead, you've got to fucking take accountability for your own life. 0.99

01:48:45.000 You've got to embrace your fuck-ups, embrace your failures, figure out what you did wrong, regroup, get back after it. 0.99

01:48:52.000 Those are super valuable lessons.

01:48:54.000 And you can call him a leader because of those lessons, but really what he's leading is an example of an excellent life.

01:49:00.000 And that is the best thing that we do for each other.

01:49:03.000 We lead by example.

01:49:05.000 So you can see a guy who, like, I was hanging out with this friend of mine who's this very wealthy guy who owns all these businesses, and one of the things that I was super inspired by is how nice he is to everyone.

01:49:18.000 To everyone.

01:49:19.000 Everyone he meets.

01:49:20.000 He's super friendly and engaging, but genuine.

01:49:23.000 I'm with him all the time, so I know if he's turning it on or turning it off.

01:49:26.000 It's never off.

01:49:28.000 He doesn't have any time for negativity. 0.98

01:49:31.000 He doesn't use email, he doesn't fuck with social media, and he's a multi-billionaire. 0.80

01:49:35.000 He's just running his life with a smile on his face and genuinely engaging with people. 0.95

01:49:42.000 That guy's a leader by example.

01:49:44.000 That's a beautiful way to live your life.

01:49:47.000 If you can do that, you can be very successful but never turn into a tyrant.

01:49:51.000 That's amazing.

01:49:52.000 That's amazing.

01:49:53.000 Because most people, they take the easy way and they turn into a tyrant.

01:49:56.000 Everybody around them is walking on eggshells.

01:49:57.000 They yell at people.

01:49:58.000 You always hear about that with talk show hosts.

01:50:00.000 You always hear about that with people that are leading a sitcom. 1.00

01:50:03.000 They just yell at everybody, shut the fuck up and listen to me. 0.99

01:50:07.000 I'm the star of this show. 1.00

01:50:08.000 You know, that kind of shit. 1.00

01:50:10.000 You always used to hear about that, especially before the internet. 1.00

01:50:13.000 Yeah, and I mean, some of the best leadership examples that I've had in my life were guys that were bad, toxic leaders.

01:50:19.000 Because you're like, God, I do not want to be even close to that guy.

01:50:23.000 And, you know, I've had just the, I guess, the fortunate opportunity to serve under some really incredible people and with amazing people that just inspire you through action.

01:50:38.000 And, like, one of those guys I've had a really close relationship over the last few years is Johnny Morris, the founder of Bass Pro.

01:50:45.000 And he's that guy.

01:50:47.000 Really?

01:50:47.000 He's so humble.

01:50:48.000 The founder of Bass Pro Shops?

01:50:49.000 He is so humble.

01:50:50.000 He is so nice.

01:50:51.000 He is so genuine.

01:50:53.000 We went elk hunting a few years ago.

01:50:54.000 He called me.

01:50:55.000 He's like, hey, Evan, you want to go elk hunting?

01:50:57.000 I was like, yeah, let's go.

01:50:58.000 Like, you don't say no to Johnny, right?

01:51:00.000 You're not like, no.

01:51:02.000 Like, of course.

01:51:02.000 Of course I'm going to go.

01:51:05.000 And one of the guys, he brought out one of the guys that plays in his bar there in Branson, Missouri.

01:51:13.000 And he shot an elk.

01:51:16.000 We were tracking it.

01:51:17.000 Johnny's out there tracking it.

01:51:18.000 And he's like, hey guys, you guys want some water?

01:51:19.000 And he runs down and grabs everybody some water because we're putting in some miles.

01:51:23.000 He's driving the truck with us and stuff.

01:51:25.000 I mean, the guy's...

01:51:28.000 I don't know how many stores that he's opened.

01:51:30.000 I don't know exactly what his individual wealth is, but he's humble, he's incredibly kind, and he's always there to offer an opportunity for somebody.

01:51:41.000 We went out to one of his places in Arizona.

01:51:44.000 He just sat with me for A full day, just talking about brand.

01:51:50.000 He's sitting on the couch in his slippers.

01:51:53.000 We're going through brand and brand moments and how important those can be and how important it is for your customer.

01:52:00.000 The customer came up.

01:52:03.000 A thousand times.

01:52:04.000 Like, how important this is.

01:52:06.000 And it's like those little pieces that I can pull away from incredible leaders, people that inspire me, or whatever it is.

01:52:14.000 It's not only the good people that you can find where they're authentically engaging with you, but it's also the flip side of that where you're like, this guy is incredibly successful, and there's another person that's very toxic, and they're not engaging people in an authentic way.

01:52:30.000 I don't want to be even close to those people.

01:52:32.000 Yeah.

01:52:32.000 Like, not even close.

01:52:33.000 It's like when people have alcoholic parents, you know, they're in and out of jail, always getting arrested, and those people wind up being super disciplined.

01:52:41.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:52:42.000 Because they're like, fuck this. 1.00

01:52:43.000 I am not living my life like that. 1.00

01:52:45.000 You know, I'm not where cops are banging on the door at 3 o'clock in the morning to pull your dad out of bed.

01:52:50.000 Right.

01:52:51.000 Like, there's a lot of people that live their life by the negative example.

01:52:55.000 They go, I am never going to live that life.

01:52:58.000 I know a lot of people who don't drink at all, not because they have a drinking problem, but because someone in their family had a drinking problem.

01:53:05.000 It's one of the reasons why I've never done coke.

01:53:07.000 I had a buddy of mine in high school, and his cousin used to sell coke, and I watched his life fall apart. 0.91

01:53:11.000 And I remember thinking, oh my god, this guy was fucking so normal and cool, and now all of a sudden he's a vampire hiding. 0.99

01:53:18.000 Just doing coke all the time. 0.99

01:53:20.000 Like, they would hide in this attic apartment and do coke.

01:53:22.000 Him and his girlfriend, they look pale and they're like, oh my god, you guys got bit by a vampire.

01:53:27.000 It's like the cocaine vampire came along and stole your life. 0.92

01:53:31.000 The cocaine vampire. 0.99

01:53:32.000 Bro, that vampire steals people's lives. 0.99

01:53:35.000 I remember it from high school.

01:53:37.000 Because it's not like there was a lot of coke heads in my neighborhood. 1.00

01:53:40.000 But there was enough people that did coke where you watched the change in their personality where it just all became about getting coke.

01:53:46.000 They just wanted to get coke.

01:53:49.000 I can imagine it's got to be prevalent within the media world and in L.A. It's got to be everywhere.

01:53:59.000 It's got to be everywhere in L.A. I mean, I've had it offered to me a couple of times.

01:54:03.000 Not a lot, though.

01:54:04.000 Right.

01:54:05.000 Not a lot.

01:54:06.000 It's not like weed.

01:54:09.000 My God, how many times have people put a joint in front of me? 0.99

01:54:11.000 Who fucking knows how many? 0.98

01:54:13.000 But not... 0.99

01:54:14.000 Coke is not...

01:54:16.000 I think Coke people know other Coke people. 0.99

01:54:18.000 They fucking know you got that vampire mark on you. 0.98

01:54:21.000 They're looking at you going, ah, this guy's way too fit. 0.99

01:54:24.000 Yeah.

01:54:25.000 But I know some healthy people that do Coke, which is wild.

01:54:28.000 I know some jujitsu guys who do Coke.

01:54:31.000 Really?

01:54:31.000 Yeah.

01:54:32.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 There's people that just like to party.

01:54:35.000 They just enjoy it enough that they disregard or ignore the performance negatives, which are very real. 0.85

01:54:44.000 Like, if you're fucking ramping your system up with cocaine, you expect to perform at your best, and you're doing it all the time. 0.85

01:54:50.000 Well, there's no way, even if you're really talented. 0.98

01:54:51.000 You're taking a chunk out of your potential.

01:54:54.000 100%.

01:54:54.000 For sure.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, I think that's where, especially if you're in a combat sport, definitely from my subculture of the people that I grew up with in the military, we're always concerned about brain injury, TBI. I think one of the most positive benefits that Right.

01:55:26.000 Right.

01:55:27.000 Right.

01:55:28.000 I know that it's one of those things that I've tried very hard to just eliminate out of my life because of that.

01:55:35.000 I've lost too many friends to suicide specifically.

01:55:37.000 One in particular that was my best friend just about a year ago.

01:55:43.000 And I guarantee it was because of the mix of chemicals with the TBI. Guaranteed.

01:55:50.000 TBI with fighters, one of the wild things is when you think a guy's punchy and then you have a couple of drinks with them.

01:55:59.000 They get drunk so fast.

01:56:02.000 Like, obliterated so fast.

01:56:05.000 Like, you're pretty normal, and they're gone.

01:56:07.000 And you're wondering, like, wow.

01:56:09.000 Like, that whole brain, the whole punch drunk thing, which people always used to call it punch drunk before they called it pugilistica dementia.

01:56:17.000 But punch drunk, they are kind of drunk. 0.99

01:56:21.000 And then you give them alcohol, and they get really fucked up. 0.99

01:56:26.000 And there's a lot of people just walking around like that. 0.99

01:56:29.000 And also your endocrine system's disrupted.

01:56:33.000 Your body's not producing dopamine or serotonin properly anymore because of the brain injuries.

01:56:38.000 And so then you're looking for something to get you out of this fog of depression.

01:56:43.000 And a lot of them turn to drink it, which is crazy because it's a depressive.

01:56:48.000 It's the same.

01:56:49.000 It's very, very similar in the veteran community because guys will come out, they're redefining themselves, trying to find purpose in their lives.

01:56:57.000 They get depressed because they're dislocated from their tribe, the people they've been emotionally, physically, psychologically more connected to than sometimes their family.

01:57:08.000 And then they are dealing with overpressure and or they've been blown up guaranteed because even on internal breaches and explosives on targets, you're going to be exposed to the overpressure from the explosives.

01:57:21.000 You're going to have some type of impact on your brain.

01:57:24.000 Like I would say guaranteed if you came out of the special operations community.

01:57:29.000 And then they switch, and I've seen it.

01:57:31.000 There's too many examples for me to list, but I've seen it directly impact in a negative way because they switch to alcohol, and then they find themselves in the bottom of a bottle, and it doesn't get better.

01:57:45.000 It doesn't improve their life in any way, shape, or form.

01:57:49.000 There's an interim band-aid for it.

01:57:52.000 It might make you feel better for a short amount of time, but after a while, it puts you into a spiral.

01:57:59.000 And I've seen it happen too many times to count.

01:58:02.000 And it affects you.

01:58:06.000 I mean, it directly affects me every day, whether it's the war itself or the post-effects of war itself.

01:58:17.000 I've talked about this a few times where it's like, Iraq is with me every day of my life.

01:58:21.000 Whether I like it or don't like it, I've just dealt with it.

01:58:24.000 And now I'm just trying to do the best that I can to make sure that, one, the machine is 100% capacity, and two, that I can be an example for other guys to say, you know what, I don't have to.

01:58:38.000 I don't have to be in a social circumstance and have a drink.

01:58:41.000 I can reach out to a friend if, you know, even if you just reach out to people now and again and just say, hey, what's up?

01:58:48.000 How you doing?

01:58:49.000 Like, that's it.

01:58:50.000 It helps.

01:58:50.000 It does.

01:58:51.000 It definitely helps.

01:58:52.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why fighters and military guys...

01:59:01.000 Find each other a lot and there's a huge percentage of veterans that get into jiu-jitsu and some of the things after after service They're looking for a community.

01:59:09.000 They're looking for a tribe.

01:59:10.000 They're looking for something physical And and I see a lot of parallels between that mmm makes sense.

01:59:18.000 Yeah I would think military guys like jiu-jitsu and martial arts would be an automatic makes sense and complete makes sense to help you transition and And also just a great thing to keep your head in check, keep your mind right.

01:59:33.000 Martial arts, particularly jujitsu, is a really good one because there's no head impacts.

01:59:37.000 And, you know, you can keep your mind right.

01:59:39.000 The problem with sparring, like, if you get into striking sports...

01:59:43.000 You're getting damage, believe it or not.

01:59:46.000 Even if you're light sparring, you're getting popped.

01:59:49.000 You're getting jabbed.

01:59:50.000 Every now and then someone hits you with something a little stiff.

01:59:52.000 You see stars.

01:59:54.000 It happens.

01:59:55.000 It always happens.

01:59:56.000 I can't remember a time.

01:59:59.000 You have to have really good training partners when it comes to striking where you really trust them that they're not going to hit you hard.

02:00:06.000 And even then, sometimes accidentally they hit you hard.

02:00:09.000 Like, you zig when you should have zagged, you run into something, it just happens.

02:00:13.000 But with jiu-jitsu, you cut that down, way down.

02:00:16.000 Like, the amount of head injuries and impacts and concussions in jiu-jitsu is tiny in comparison.

02:00:22.000 Every now and then you accidentally collide heads.

02:00:24.000 Or you accidentally catch a knee to the head and you get knocked silly. 0.87

02:00:27.000 That does happen.

02:00:28.000 But for the most part, it's like the safest way to engage in combat sports.

02:00:32.000 And also, it's one of the rare ones...

02:00:35.000 Well, you could do it with a buddy, and you could both go full blast.

02:00:38.000 And you don't have to worry about killing each other. 0.99

02:00:39.000 Because if you're going full blast in gym kickboxing, I mean, you're going to fucking break your brain 100%. 0.98

02:00:45.000 And I know a lot of guys have done it, and I used to do it. 0.98

02:00:48.000 We used to go to war.

02:00:50.000 We didn't spar. 0.97

02:00:51.000 We beat the fuck out of each other. 0.99

02:00:53.000 We hit each other full blast all the time. 0.98

02:00:55.000 And it was all just about having good defense and being able to move around away from shots.

02:00:59.000 But you know that real shots were coming your way, and you got dinged up a lot.

02:01:03.000 And if you're doing that, like, forever, all throughout your years, like, Jerry Quarry is a good example.

02:01:08.000 Jerry Quarry was a boxer who fought Muhammad Ali on his return when he took those three years off.

02:01:13.000 And Jerry Quarry was, like, notoriously tough.

02:01:16.000 Just tough. 1.00

02:01:17.000 Just would eat fucking punches. 1.00

02:01:18.000 Well, his brother was like him, too. 1.00

02:01:20.000 And I think his brother only had, like, one professional fight.

02:01:24.000 They were just always sparring in the gym.

02:01:27.000 His brother wound up with brain damage just as bad as Jerry.

02:01:31.000 Horrific brain damage.

02:01:33.000 Just from the gym. 1.00

02:01:34.000 The gym fucking counts, kids. 0.99

02:01:36.000 If you're listening out there and you're sparring and you're fucking tuning up on your friends and you guys are beating the shit out of each other, That counts for the rest of your life whether your coach is telling you that or not those sparring sessions if you're going in there and you're getting dropped and you're getting rocked and you're rocking people and dropping people you guys are giving each other brain damage a hundred percent and I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine who Was a professional fighter who is now dealing with one of his friends 0.99

02:02:07.000 who's suicidal and Who used to be a professional fighter and they were talking about the sparring sessions that they had.

02:02:12.000 They were talking about, jeez, maybe we shouldn't have been beating the fuck out of each other all those years.

02:02:16.000 Because they would go to war. 0.83

02:02:17.000 And in the early days of MMA in particular, now they're a little bit more sophisticated about it and they're much more aware of preserving yourself.

02:02:26.000 Like there's certain guys like Max Holloway doesn't even spar.

02:02:29.000 He just fights.

02:02:31.000 He says, I know how to fight.

02:02:32.000 I don't want to get beat up in the gym and go into a fight compromised.

02:02:35.000 He goes, I want to go into a fight 100%.

02:02:37.000 So I don't even spar.

02:02:38.000 He just does drills.

02:02:40.000 And, you know, he's one of the best alive.

02:02:41.000 But then there's guys like Sean Strickland that spar constantly.

02:02:45.000 Did you see his house got broken into?

02:02:46.000 Yeah.

02:02:47.000 Pull that video up.

02:02:49.000 What a wrong house to break into.

02:02:52.000 Out of all the houses. 1.00

02:02:53.000 Out of all the houses to fuck with. 1.00

02:02:55.000 That guy. 1.00

02:02:57.000 UFC middleweight champion who is a gun nut.

02:02:59.000 Yeah.

02:03:00.000 And really knows how to use guns.

02:03:02.000 Yeah, out of all the guys.

02:03:03.000 Yeah, trains. 0.99

02:03:05.000 Every photo that he has, he does YouTube videos, there's fucking ARs on the wall behind him. 0.99

02:03:09.000 Like, he's not fucking around, kids. 0.99

02:03:12.000 He's ready. 0.99

02:03:12.000 He's hilarious. 0.99

02:03:13.000 That guy is hilarious.

02:03:15.000 He's hilarious.

02:03:15.000 He's very funny.

02:03:16.000 He's like...

02:03:17.000 He's so marketable as like an anti-hero.

02:03:19.000 But also a hero.

02:03:21.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 You know, he's a guy.

02:03:22.000 Like, so here, go to the volume.

02:03:25.000 Give me some volume.

02:03:28.000 So there's this drunk guy, and he's outside Sean's apartment.

02:03:32.000 Sean sees him.

02:03:35.000 It's a music play.

02:03:44.000 So he throws the guy down on the ground, points a gun at him, and he's standing on him.

02:03:51.000 I don't know what the guy was doing. 0.97

02:03:53.000 It seems like the guy was just obliterated drunk and he thought the guy was trying to rob him, but I think the guy was just shit-faced and he was looking for his keys or something. 0.98

02:04:04.000 What was he doing? 0.98

02:04:05.000 Says he was arrested.

02:04:07.000 Oh, he hit a curb.

02:04:08.000 Okay, so he was driving drunk.

02:04:11.000 He stomped out a girl. 1.00

02:04:13.000 Oh my God.

02:04:15.000 Oh, a security guard saw him stomp out a girl.

02:04:17.000 He jumped into his car and drove off.

02:04:20.000 Security followed him.

02:04:21.000 He hit a curb, completely shredded his tire, drove on the rim for a while, then jumped out and tried to hide at Sean Strickland's house.

02:04:29.000 Yeah, whoops.

02:04:31.000 Wrong dude.

02:04:32.000 Wrong dude.

02:04:32.000 That's karma.

02:04:33.000 That is the universe sending you to the wrong spot.

02:04:37.000 The gravitational pull to Sean's house was strong. 0.99

02:04:42.000 He was such a cunt that the universe guided him to the absolute worst place he could ever be while he just did those things. 0.99

02:04:48.000 Stomped at a girl, drove drunk, smashed his car into a curb, ditched it, tried to hide at the absolute wrong spot. 1.00

02:04:58.000 That guy's social media has got to be some of the most entertaining social media.

02:05:03.000 Oh, he's hilarious.

02:05:04.000 And he's a champion.

02:05:05.000 So it's like he's behaving like a wild, young contender, but he's the number one guy on Earth.

02:05:14.000 I mean, listen, it's hard to say.

02:05:16.000 Look, people can say what they want about that Adesanya fight.

02:05:18.000 Oh, Izzy wasn't himself.

02:05:20.000 Dude, he wasn't himself because he got clipped with a bomb of a right hand by Strickland in that first round.

02:05:25.000 Strickland connected with a picture-perfect right hand, rocked Izzy, and then hit him with, how many shots did he hit him with afterwards?

02:05:33.000 Eight, ten clean shots to the head, left hooks, in the clinch?

02:05:38.000 I mean, of course he wasn't himself after that. 0.96

02:05:41.000 You get hit like that in a fight, you're fucksville for the rest of those...

02:05:45.000 I mean, he probably doesn't remember those rounds.

02:05:47.000 He fought five rounds compromised.

02:05:49.000 Who knows how dinged up he got?

02:05:51.000 Only he knows.

02:05:52.000 Only Izzy knows how bad he got hurt in that first round.

02:05:54.000 But when you get rocked that way and your legs give out and you go down like Izzy did, that's a concussion, kids.

02:06:02.000 You got rocked.

02:06:04.000 That's a real getting rocked.

02:06:06.000 That guy did that. 1.00

02:06:07.000 So you could talk all the shit you want, you know, because Strickland seems like he's got this awkward style and people think he's not as good as he is, but you watch him tune dudes up, you're like, that guy's a motherfucker, man. 0.99

02:06:20.000 You know, he spars more than anybody in the UFC, and they put a mouthpiece that measures how many times you get hit. 0.99

02:06:25.000 He gets hit less than anyone.

02:06:28.000 Seriously?

02:06:29.000 He's got phenomenal defense, man. 1.00

02:06:30.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:06:31.000 Phenomenal defense. 1.00

02:06:32.000 His distance management is off the charts.

02:06:35.000 And it's because he's constantly sparring.

02:06:37.000 So, like, that's what he does better than anybody.

02:06:40.000 He fights.

02:06:41.000 Right.

02:06:41.000 And when he spars, have you seen the videos of him sparring?

02:06:43.000 He's fucking fighting. 0.99

02:06:45.000 You're fighting him. 1.00

02:06:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:46.000 Like, boxers come in and talk shit. 1.00

02:06:48.000 He beats the fuck out of them with just boxing. 1.00

02:06:51.000 He's fucking dangerous, man. 0.99

02:06:53.000 So the universe led that guy to that man's house. 1.00

02:06:58.000 That's like perfect karmic justice. 0.95

02:07:01.000 Oh, it's beautiful.

02:07:02.000 For a guy who stomps out a girl and then drives drunk and treads his car and tries to run, that is the absolute perfect way.

02:07:07.000 And then it's all on camera.

02:07:09.000 It's amazing.

02:07:10.000 Yeah.

02:07:10.000 It's the universe.

02:07:12.000 Sometimes it delivers. 0.99

02:07:13.000 Yeah, sometimes there's an opening and that fucking wounded gazelle wanders into Sean Strickland's house. 1.00

02:07:22.000 You fucking victim. 1.00

02:07:25.000 That cunt of a gazelle. 1.00

02:07:28.000 Every now and then. 1.00

02:07:29.000 Every now and then the universe will give us one of those.

02:07:32.000 Yeah, and thank God.

02:07:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:07:34.000 Yeah!

02:07:35.000 It's good.

02:07:36.000 It's good at this.

02:07:36.000 But again, that's the right to keep and bear arms.

02:07:40.000 That's freedom.

02:07:41.000 That's like the ability to protect yourself. 1.00

02:07:42.000 He didn't know who the fuck that guy was. 1.00

02:07:43.000 What if that guy was a creep? 1.00

02:07:45.000 Yeah, who knows?

02:07:46.000 I got another one.

02:07:47.000 I got one for you.

02:07:48.000 This guy tries to rob a gun store.

02:07:50.000 What?

02:07:51.000 Yeah, I sent this to my friend Sean, or my friend Justin, rather.

02:07:56.000 My friend Justin is a real gun nut. 0.99

02:07:58.000 Like a fucking bonafide, salt-of-the-earth gun nut. 0.99

02:08:02.000 And I sent him this because I knew he would get a kick out of it. 0.99

02:08:05.000 I'll send this to you, Jamie.

02:08:07.000 This is one of the ones that says, sensitive content.

02:08:09.000 Do you really want to share this?

02:08:11.000 It'll ask you if you want to see the real.

02:08:12.000 Like, yeah, I want to see it.

02:08:13.000 And then you try to send it.

02:08:14.000 Hold on.

02:08:15.000 Do you really want to share anyway?

02:08:16.000 It says, this post includes a notice saying it may contain graphic or violent content.

02:08:23.000 Yeah, I want to share it.

02:08:24.000 Of course I want to share it.

02:08:27.000 There's so much of this on Instagram.

02:08:30.000 They must be either promoting it, but they're absolutely aware of it, right?

02:08:35.000 They have to be aware of it because they put a notice on it saying, you sure you want to share it?

02:08:39.000 First of all, they asked me twice, you sure you want to see it?

02:08:42.000 I said, yeah, I want to see it.

02:08:43.000 They said, you sure you want to share it?

02:08:44.000 I'm like, yeah, I want to share it.

02:08:45.000 And so they let me.

02:08:47.000 So they must know about it. 1.00

02:08:49.000 So they know about violent, violent shit, like murders. 1.00

02:08:53.000 Like, watch this. 1.00

02:08:55.000 So this dude comes into a gun store.

02:08:56.000 Give me some volume.

02:08:57.000 Rob a gunshot!

02:08:59.000 Oh, it's someone talking over it.

02:09:03.000 Imagine!

02:09:05.000 This guy thinks he's gonna rob a gun.

02:09:06.000 See that old dude?

02:09:07.000 That old dude has been planning for that moment every day when he puts his shoes on.

02:09:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:09:12.000 One day someone's gonna rob the gun store and I'm fucking ready. 0.99

02:09:16.000 That guy's at the range practicing for that. 0.99

02:09:19.000 One day. 0.98

02:09:20.000 That's from the Instagram page, this underscore motherfucker underscore right underscore here. 0.94

02:09:26.000 Which is an amazing page. 0.94

02:09:29.000 But imagine these guys thinking that they can go, he got two guns on them too.

02:09:34.000 Thinking he's gonna walk into a gun store and rob a gun store.

02:09:38.000 And he just gets dusted, like immediately.

02:09:41.000 Look at this.

02:09:41.000 Boom!

02:09:42.000 Right away.

02:09:43.000 Yeah.

02:09:45.000 There wasn't a decision-making process in this.

02:09:48.000 Imagine him thinking, I'm going to go into this gun store, I'm going to rob them, and I'm going to take all the guns.

02:09:53.000 Who do you think works there, kid?

02:09:55.000 Who do you think works at gun stores? 0.91

02:09:57.000 People who really enjoy guns.

02:09:58.000 You don't get the average Starbucks barista who's like, I heard there's an opening at the gun store.

02:10:03.000 Am I allowed to wear my lip ring?

02:10:06.000 How many pronouns?

02:10:08.000 I don't think you've got a lot of pronoun name tags in gun stores.

02:10:11.000 No.

02:10:11.000 I'm pretty sure they don't.

02:10:13.000 I don't think you have to have he, him in your social media bio.

02:10:15.000 No.

02:10:16.000 Not at all.

02:10:17.000 Somebody sent me something the other day.

02:10:19.000 Every time someone sends me something that has their pronouns in their bio of an email, I just delete it.

02:10:26.000 Yeah.

02:10:26.000 I'm like, no.

02:10:27.000 No, not playing along with this.

02:10:30.000 No.

02:10:31.000 Somebody asked me the other day in the company, they're like, well, do you want to do this?

02:10:36.000 I was like, absolutely never.

02:10:38.000 They asked you if you want to put pronouns in the box?

02:10:40.000 Not in mine.

02:10:41.000 In other people's?

02:10:41.000 They were saying, if we should do it, or let people, and I was like, hey, man, Your title and your name.

02:10:49.000 That's all we need to do here.

02:10:50.000 We're all good.

02:10:52.000 We don't need to do this. 0.96

02:10:53.000 I'm not participating in this, like, horseshit, whatever this is. 0.76

02:10:56.000 I saw a comedian that had that in their bio.

02:10:59.000 Are they funny?

02:11:00.000 I find that hard to believe that there's too many.

02:11:03.000 It's not possible.

02:11:03.000 They can't be.

02:11:05.000 Culturally, there's a section of the population that tends to be really liberal, like the woke side of the spectrum.

02:11:12.000 They're not funny.

02:11:13.000 They can't have humor.

02:11:15.000 They're humorless.

02:11:16.000 It's part of this.

02:11:17.000 They could 10 years ago.

02:11:19.000 They could.

02:11:19.000 10, 15 years ago, you could.

02:11:21.000 Because there's a lot of people that you would consider woke that were very liberal.

02:11:25.000 But they were able to use humor...

02:11:28.000 In a way that is very offensive if it was not humor.

02:11:34.000 Right.

02:11:34.000 But it's humor.

02:11:36.000 It's only supposed to be funny.

02:11:37.000 It's not like they're making statements like these are affidavits.

02:11:40.000 These are my real beliefs on things.

02:11:42.000 No.

02:11:42.000 They're saying things in a way that's either ironic or sarcastic or it's a parody or whatever, but it's very funny.

02:11:48.000 And it's very funny and uses outrageous language and uses what people would think is problematic stereotypes and all kinds of shit like that. 0.54

02:11:56.000 And there was a lot of liberal comedians that would walk that line and be really good at it. 0.56

02:12:01.000 You know, they would say something racist from the perspective of a racist person and make fun of that person, but also make fun of the way that person's talking about things and the way that person's talking about things are also funny.

02:12:15.000 And you could do that.

02:12:16.000 Now you can't do that anymore.

02:12:17.000 Because now those people are so...

02:12:19.000 The left has moved so far.

02:12:22.000 It's so far into this weird world of Narnia, where gender transition surgeries are cool. 0.99

02:12:31.000 Like, yeah, you should be supporting trans kids.

02:12:33.000 Like, what are you saying? 1.00

02:12:34.000 The fuck are you saying? 1.00

02:12:35.000 Support Ukraine. 1.00

02:12:36.000 Like, are you sure?

02:12:37.000 Did you go over there?

02:12:38.000 What are you saying?

02:12:39.000 What are you saying?

02:12:40.000 Free Palestine.

02:12:41.000 Free Palestine from what? 0.91

02:12:42.000 Okay, what do you know about it?

02:12:44.000 Tell me what you know. 1.00

02:12:45.000 Are you just jumping on every fucking bandwagon that the left wants you to jump on, or have you really looked into this shit? 1.00

02:12:51.000 How much do you know about Israel? 1.00

02:12:53.000 How much do you know about Hamas?

02:12:54.000 How much do you know about the history of the region? 0.99

02:12:57.000 Very little, but you got a fucking flag on your Instagram bio because that's the fashionable thing to do. 0.99

02:13:02.000 It's moved so far in that direction. 0.99

02:13:04.000 What are your pronouns?

02:13:05.000 Put them in your bio.

02:13:06.000 Okay.

02:13:07.000 You don't even have your pronouns in your bio.

02:13:09.000 This kind of nonsense and compliance has led them into this weird world where you can't do proper humor anymore.

02:13:17.000 That's why there's no comedy movies anymore, man.

02:13:19.000 Is that the reason you think?

02:13:20.000 Yes!

02:13:21.000 They're scared!

02:13:22.000 You can't do super bad today.

02:13:25.000 No.

02:13:26.000 But the guys who did Superbad are all woke.

02:13:29.000 Yeah.

02:13:30.000 Yeah.

02:13:30.000 100%.

02:13:31.000 I mean, all of those guys are 100% on the woke side of things.

02:13:35.000 Yeah, now they're like kind of, they woke themselves out of jobs.

02:13:38.000 They woke themselves out of one of the most cherished aspects of movie-going times, which is going to see a great offensive movie, like the Farrelly Brothers, like something about Mary. 0.98

02:13:51.000 Hilarious fucking movie. 0.99

02:13:53.000 Try making that today. 1.00

02:13:55.000 Well, Blazing Saddles.

02:13:56.000 Try making that today.

02:13:58.000 Try making something like that.

02:13:59.000 Yeah.

02:13:59.000 Like, could never happen.

02:14:01.000 Could never happen.

02:14:02.000 Like, everything Mel Brooks, everything that they did.

02:14:05.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:05.000 There's no way it could be made today.

02:14:07.000 No way.

02:14:07.000 And he's a very liberal, very left-wing guy.

02:14:10.000 You used to be able to do that.

02:14:11.000 You used to be able to do that with humor.

02:14:13.000 There's a lot of comics that are really liberal that were really funny, like, 10, 15 years ago.

02:14:19.000 And now you watch them, it's like a lot of claptor and virtue signaling.

02:14:23.000 It's like, you're scared.

02:14:25.000 You're scared.

02:14:26.000 You're scared of upsetting that base.

02:14:28.000 You're scared of them turning on you.

02:14:30.000 You want them with you, always.

02:14:31.000 They're not with you, man. 1.00

02:14:33.000 They're all trapped in the fucking undercurrent, the tide. 1.00

02:14:37.000 They're getting pulled by a riptide of this culture run amok. 1.00

02:14:42.000 And they don't, you know, they don't do anything to stop it.

02:14:44.000 And that's why guys like Bill Maher are interesting.

02:14:47.000 Yeah.

02:14:48.000 Because he does.

02:14:49.000 He does.

02:14:50.000 He never stopped being a real comic. 1.00

02:14:52.000 Even in the tide of all this crazy left shit, he's like, wait a minute, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

02:14:58.000 Like, what is happening here? 1.00

02:14:59.000 Like, he's not, like, he's one of the few guys saying, hey, Biden. 0.99

02:15:03.000 Fucking step down. 0.99

02:15:05.000 Like, what are we doing? 1.00

02:15:06.000 Like, what are we doing? 0.99

02:15:08.000 What the fuck is happening here? 0.99

02:15:09.000 This is not... 0.99

02:15:10.000 This time is gone.

02:15:12.000 This is nonsense.

02:15:14.000 Do you guys want to win this thing? 1.00

02:15:15.000 Like, what the fuck are you doing? 0.98

02:15:17.000 And that's against what most of that ideology wants you to say. 0.99

02:15:23.000 Well, they've lost the ability to be objective in anything.

02:15:26.000 Yeah.

02:15:26.000 So if you don't agree, if you don't pass the purity test, then you're going to be on the right.

02:15:34.000 You're a Nazi. 0.83

02:15:34.000 Yeah. 0.83

02:15:35.000 You're going to go over here. 1.00

02:15:36.000 You're a fascist. 1.00

02:15:37.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:15:38.000 You're labeled as something that you're not, obviously, just because you want to have a different opinion.

02:15:43.000 There's no ability for people to have a constructive conversation, be objective, bring in facts.

02:15:49.000 They've got to make it personal.

02:15:50.000 They've got to go really deep into these obscure philosophical conversations that don't make sense.

02:15:58.000 I think part of it is, like, I truly do believe that there's part of this that's I think that we're in the middle of this information operation, and I think people wittingly and unwittingly are participating in this crazy,

02:16:16.000 chaotic narrative.

02:16:18.000 And they're saying, but this is what we need to do.

02:16:20.000 Actually, what you're doing is you're just directly relaying propaganda.

02:16:25.000 That's what you're doing.

02:16:26.000 And you're trying to cause cultural divides, and they're trying to divide us, they're trying to make us argue, because they're the ones that directly reap the benefits of all this chaos.

02:16:34.000 Who else would reap the benefits of this?

02:16:37.000 Yeah, it's laid out by Yuri Bezmenov in the 1980s.

02:16:42.000 And people who haven't seen that, go watch this video.

02:16:45.000 It's on YouTube.

02:16:47.000 Former KGB defector, Yuri Bezmanov.

02:16:52.000 It outlines how Russia has invaded our education system and what they're doing to try to destroy our culture. 1.00

02:17:00.000 And whether or not you believe in that shit or not, just listen to what he's saying and see what's happened. 0.99

02:17:05.000 He is outlining exactly how it would take place. 1.00

02:17:09.000 He's off by about 10 years.

02:17:11.000 But he outlined it in terms of how many generations it would take for a complete moral decay and a complete Complete, like, an erosion of our faith in the democratic process.

02:17:23.000 And all of it's laid out.

02:17:24.000 All of it's laid out exactly what you see.

02:17:27.000 And that's the enemy of comedy. 0.99

02:17:31.000 You're gonna fucking fall in on that. 0.99

02:17:33.000 Like, you can't be funny. 1.00

02:17:35.000 And you can't be funny and be involved in this fucking chaotic war. 0.99

02:17:41.000 I was watching a jujitsu coach. 0.99

02:17:44.000 Online, they were talking about whether or not he supports trans women competing in women's division.

02:17:52.000 And he was saying, of course I do, because I'm not a Nazi.

02:17:57.000 We're not Nazis.

02:17:59.000 Right.

02:17:59.000 So if you don't support biological males competing against women in jujitsu matches, you're a Nazi.

02:18:08.000 I was like, this is crazy. 1.00

02:18:10.000 This kind of nutty shit has made it all the way to jujitsu. 0.99

02:18:14.000 Do you think that eventually it loses the effectiveness of the term if they're just overusing, you know, fascist and Nazi in every sentence? 0.99

02:18:23.000 Do you think eventually it at least runs out of inertia because they've used it so much that it loses its effectiveness?

02:18:29.000 It definitely does.

02:18:30.000 But the problem with that is there's real Nazis out there.

02:18:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:18:33.000 That's the problem with crying wolf, right?

02:18:35.000 Like one day you're going to see a real wolf.

02:18:37.000 Like, oh my god, that's a wolf. 1.00

02:18:38.000 And everyone's like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:18:40.000 Like, no, no, no, guys, that's an actual Nazi. 1.00

02:18:43.000 Like, they have a swastika on their back. 0.93

02:18:45.000 This is a real Nazi. 0.88

02:18:46.000 Like, real Nazis are real. 0.96

02:18:48.000 That's what's so offensive about calling someone who doesn't want a biological male with a mental disorder to compete against women.

02:18:55.000 In a jujitsu match, that's why it's so offensive to call anybody who objects to that a Nazi, because there are Nazis. 1.00

02:19:04.000 Like, no, I think biological males have a massive advantage, and I'm not going to live in your Narnia world and pretend they don't, because it's fucking stupid and it's dangerous. 1.00

02:19:14.000 And that's the reality of the world we're living in right now. 0.99

02:19:17.000 There's a bunch of people that, whether willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly, they've given into this what percentage of it is put out by our enemies, what percentage of it is really effective psychological warfare through manipulation of social media algorithms and through use of bots and troll farms. 0.99

02:19:37.000 That shit's real. 0.98

02:19:38.000 It's 100% documented. 1.00

02:19:42.000 Yes.

02:20:04.000 They've got a long-term look at how they can directly affect and ultimately degrade what we believe as Americans because they benefit from that.

02:20:13.000 They want the position that we have.

02:20:15.000 So if people don't believe that, you're just living in a false reality, period.

02:20:20.000 Yeah, you're living in a false reality and you're not taking into account all the things we discussed earlier about some people fall into cults.

02:20:27.000 Some people, 15% of them have an IQ below 85. Like all that shit is a factor because they're really easily led. 0.99

02:20:35.000 Easily. 0.99

02:20:36.000 And if you are one of those people, maybe you don't have an 85 IQ, maybe it's 89, maybe it's 90, maybe you're just gullible.

02:20:44.000 You can get sucked into thinking this is the only way to think, and if you see it magnified in your social media algorithm because of China, because of Russia, and because of these troll farms which we absolutely know exist, it shifts the narrative.

02:20:57.000 It shifts the way people discuss and think about things.

02:21:00.000 It shifts what's acceptable.

02:21:02.000 When people start going against the grain, they get attacked by all these trolls. 0.98

02:21:06.000 It fucking puts the brakes on a lot of discussions. 0.99

02:21:10.000 And that's the only way that we're going to move the ball forward, and I hate using sports analogies, but that's the only way we're going to be able to move things forward is if we can get out of what I would say is the idiot circus participating in these nonsense subjects versus, 0.99

02:21:27.000 hey, guys, we have to maintain our sovereignty. 0.94

02:21:31.000 We have to maintain what we would call our principles internationally.

02:21:35.000 Why?

02:21:36.000 Why is that important?

02:21:37.000 Why should we be thinking about these things?

02:21:39.000 And I think these are real questions that we can be talking about.

02:21:43.000 A good one is, why is our national debt where it is today?

02:21:48.000 Why do we have $33 trillion in debt?

02:21:51.000 What is the debt service going to happen for our country, the individual taxpayers?

02:21:56.000 How does that look like?

02:21:57.000 What does that look like 10 years from now?

02:22:01.000 Versus whether or not we're arguing who's male or female or how many pronouns you have, I think we should be talking about those things.

02:22:07.000 Those are really substantive conversations.

02:22:10.000 Yeah, and then climate change comes up, and that's the next one people start fighting about.

02:22:14.000 It's like you got to keep as many beach balls up in the air at the concert as possible. 0.99

02:22:19.000 Just keep bouncing those fuckers around to distract people. 1.00

02:22:22.000 It's a distraction. 1.00

02:22:23.000 It's a giant distraction.

02:22:24.000 Whether you realize it or not, whether you're overconfident, Maybe your own ability to navigate waters, and you're like, it's not affecting me.

02:22:33.000 It's affecting culture.

02:22:35.000 And if it's affecting culture, it's gonna have an impact on you.

02:22:38.000 It's gonna come towards you.

02:22:39.000 You're gonna have to push back against something that you wouldn't have to push back against. 0.99

02:22:43.000 Some real nonsense shit. 1.00

02:22:46.000 You know, and if you go against it, you're a Nazi. 1.00

02:22:49.000 Like, this whole men using the women's bathroom. 0.75

02:22:52.000 Like, listen, I'm not an anti-trans person, but if you don't believe that there are certain male predators that are sex offenders that wouldn't take advantage of the ability to wear a dress and then all of a sudden be able to go into any woman's room they want, well, they definitely do. 0.82

02:23:08.000 Right. 1.00

02:23:09.000 And you don't have a way of discerning who's a legitimate trans person that has gender dysphoria that really just wants to be accepted as a woman and who's a sick fuck who just wants to go watch women's shit because those guys are real too. 1.00

02:23:22.000 And if you don't agree with that, if you don't say that those people are real, now all of a sudden you've created a whole category of sexual predators that prey on women that have a Willy Wonka golden ticket. 1.00

02:23:39.000 Now they can just go into women's spaces. 1.00

02:23:40.000 They can go into women's locker rooms. 1.00

02:23:42.000 They can go into women's anything. 1.00

02:23:43.000 All they have to do is say they identify as a woman.

02:23:45.000 It's not hard to do.

02:23:47.000 You don't even have to look like a woman. 1.00

02:23:48.000 You just say you identify as a woman.

02:23:50.000 You can put lipstick on if you want. 1.00

02:23:52.000 We're so lenient about this shit. 1.00

02:23:54.000 And I'm not saying I know a solution. 0.99

02:23:56.000 Because if you ever remember Blair White?

02:23:58.000 Oh yeah.

02:23:59.000 She used a women's room. 1.00

02:24:00.000 Why shouldn't she use a women's room? 1.00

02:24:02.000 That's a trans woman who's like, that's a trans woman. 1.00

02:24:05.000 She lives like a woman. 1.00

02:24:07.000 She wants to call herself a woman. 1.00

02:24:08.000 I'm in.

02:24:09.000 But that's not everyone.

02:24:11.000 There's this one, I think this person lives in, I want to say Canada, but somewhere north. 1.00

02:24:19.000 But on their social media they wrote, some women have penises and if you don't like it, you can suck my dick. 1.00

02:24:24.000 Full beard, wearing a dress, looking like a guy in a dress, and you're like, okay, you might be insane. 1.00

02:24:30.000 How about you're insane? 0.97

02:24:32.000 And how about if everybody just accepts that blanket? 0.97

02:24:35.000 Well, now you have, like, you leave this door open for chaos.

02:24:40.000 And if you can't talk about it, because if you talk about it, you're a Nazi, like, what are we doing?

02:24:44.000 Like, what are we doing?

02:24:45.000 We gave perverts, like, a complete Willy Wonka golden ticket.

02:24:50.000 A hall pass.

02:24:52.000 Give them a hall pass and then you can monopolize the conversation and the country around quite literally small, meaningless things versus saying, you know, these are big strategic threats to our way of life.

02:25:07.000 And there are people outside of this country every day that are looking to undermine our entire premise of what we've built over the course of the last several hundred years.

02:25:19.000 I mean, I don't even necessarily say that I believe in this and it's not a feeling.

02:25:24.000 It is what it is in the context of spending most of my life overseas and working against these intelligence agencies.

02:25:30.000 You know what they're capable of and you know what they're doing.

02:25:35.000 They love this.

02:25:36.000 They love this chaotic, weird conversation that we're trapped in, arguing about all of these different things, because at that point, we're taking our eye off the ball.

02:25:46.000 They love the fact that we are trapped in this endless cycle of wars of occupation where we spent trillions of dollars.

02:25:54.000 They love that.

02:25:55.000 You know why?

02:25:56.000 Because it degrades our long-term military viability in some of these regions, and then China can snap up We're good to go. 0.92

02:26:31.000 And I'm saying everywhere we should be able to do this and we should absolutely protect it.

02:26:35.000 But if comedy is under attack from people wanting to cancel comedy because of jokes, that's a problem as a country, as a society. 0.99

02:26:46.000 That's a fucking huge problem. 0.98

02:26:47.000 Well, the Lakota had a term called the Hayoka, the sacred clown. 0.99

02:26:53.000 They had a person in their society that made fun of everything because they had this need to test things.

02:27:00.000 Like, how do I know if this thing is legit?

02:27:03.000 Well, someone can't make fun of it.

02:27:05.000 That's probably a thing that there's a problem with that thing.

02:27:09.000 If you can't discuss it and you can't mock it, there's probably a problem with that thing.

02:27:14.000 Maybe there's a little bit of a culty aspect to that thing.

02:27:20.000 Here's a question.

02:27:22.000 Do you think we're doing the same thing overseas?

02:27:24.000 Are we doing the same sort of social media campaigns?

02:27:29.000 We must be. 0.99

02:27:30.000 I asked Mike Baker and he fucking gave me the runaround. 0.99

02:27:32.000 I think, here's my honest, you know, everybody starts a conversation by saying, here's my honest opinion. 0.96

02:27:41.000 But my assessment in this is I think that we have forfeited portions of foreign service to the left in the context of Woke-ism, 0.87

02:27:57.000 politically correct, like the act of maintaining your sovereignty in the context of military and then economically is not politically correct.

02:28:07.000 You can't broker in...

02:28:10.000 In that rhetoric and then implement a strategic long-term goals and objectives that are going to meet and exceed what we have to do to maintain America and ultimately America's power overseas if you believe in it.

02:28:25.000 You just can't because it's not politically correct.

02:28:28.000 If you believe that all nations are created equal and all political ideologies are equal, that's just wrong.

02:28:35.000 It's not. 1.00

02:28:41.000 Communism is a dogshit ideology. 1.00

02:28:44.000 I think that it should have been flushed down the international toilet a long time ago. 1.00

02:28:47.000 We just haven't done it good yet.

02:28:49.000 Yeah.

02:28:50.000 We're gonna figure it out this time, Evan.

02:28:52.000 You're so close-minded.

02:28:54.000 You can't dabble in it.

02:28:55.000 It's so dangerous to start dabbling in these things because it's a failed ideology.

02:29:04.000 We're good to go.

02:29:26.000 They're going out and they're not willing to implement at the same degree that they might have been able to in the 1960s and 70s in the context of zero-sum game.

02:29:37.000 We are here to win.

02:29:38.000 That's what we do.

02:29:40.000 And you got to play by the rules of nature.

02:29:46.000 Which is things will die.

02:29:48.000 And when I say that, ideologies have to die.

02:29:51.000 Like they do. 1.00

02:29:52.000 When they're failed and they're bad for freedom, which I tend to believe in radical freedom, when they're bad for individual liberty, when they're bad for freedom, they gotta fucking die. 0.99

02:30:01.000 And if you're going to have communism, you're going to need someone to enforce that. 0.99

02:30:05.000 It only is implemented through tyranny.

02:30:09.000 That's it.

02:30:10.000 Isn't that wild?

02:30:11.000 Yes.

02:30:11.000 That no one wants to do that math.

02:30:14.000 They don't want to get to the tenth problem.

02:30:16.000 Right.

02:30:16.000 They want to stop at problem number seven and go, well, it's really important that we share wealth and economic...

02:30:24.000 You know, disparity is wrong, and we should all have money from the state and equal money, and we should all share, and billionaires shouldn't exist.

02:30:36.000 Okay, okay.

02:30:37.000 How do you make that happen?

02:30:38.000 How do you take the money from the billionaires?

02:30:40.000 Who do you give it to?

02:30:41.000 Who gets to decide who gets what?

02:30:43.000 Do we vote on where the money goes?

02:30:45.000 What about those people that are under 85 IQ? Are they voting on this too?

02:30:49.000 They're going to vote for free Twinkies for everybody.

02:30:52.000 Free Twinkies and Mountain Dew. 1.00

02:30:54.000 I mean, if you just had, should all the billionaires spend their money on free Twinkies and Mountain Dew, and you just left it to people who weren't billionaires to vote for, then yeah, fuck those people. 1.00

02:31:02.000 Who's gonna vote it in? 0.98

02:31:03.000 Should we take 90% of the money from people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet? 1.00

02:31:07.000 Fuck yeah, they don't need that money. 0.99

02:31:08.000 Click. 1.00

02:31:09.000 There's a lot of people that'll tell you that.

02:31:11.000 They don't want, like if you're starting off, you're playing a game, like the game's capitalism. 0.99

02:31:17.000 If you're starting off and you're 20 years old, 21 years old, and you don't make any money, and you're out there trying to find your purpose in life, and then you're seeing someone who's been playing this game for 50 years, and he's flying around in a fucking private jet and getting driven around at a Rolls Royce, you're like, fuck that guy. 1.00

02:31:31.000 Fuck him. 1.00

02:31:32.000 Fuck him. 1.00

02:31:33.000 He's too far ahead of the game. 1.00

02:31:34.000 But you're playing that game too.

02:31:36.000 If you're working and you're getting paid for your work, you're playing a game.

02:31:40.000 You might be playing a very low level of the game, but you're playing the game called capitalism.

02:31:44.000 And the more work you do, the more money you get.

02:31:47.000 The more effort you put in to figure out how to get more money, the more money you'll get if you're successful.

02:31:52.000 And if you're not successful, you'll at least get lessons on how to do it wrong. 0.98

02:31:55.000 And hopefully, you're going to figure that out because many people have, including that guy in the fucking Bentley. 0.95

02:32:00.000 Including that guy in the private jet. 0.98

02:32:02.000 He's just 70 years old. 1.00

02:32:04.000 He's been playing this fucking game for 45 goddamn years hard. 1.00

02:32:09.000 You know, he knows what he's doing. 1.00

02:32:10.000 And if you don't like that game, don't play it.

02:32:13.000 But for you to say that he shouldn't have that money, okay, what are you gonna do?

02:32:18.000 You gonna take it from him?

02:32:19.000 Who's gonna take it from him?

02:32:20.000 The government?

02:32:21.000 Armed people? 0.64

02:32:23.000 What are you doing?

02:32:23.000 Because that's the only way he's gonna give it up.

02:32:25.000 That's the only way.

02:32:26.000 That's the only way you get to enforce people redistributing wealth evenly across everybody, including people that have done nothing.

02:32:34.000 And now you're going to get a lot of angry people and you're going to get a lot of resentment.

02:32:38.000 You know what pops out of something like that, those ideas?

02:32:40.000 Far-right ideologies, super far-right.

02:32:44.000 That's the rebound to this radical leftism.

02:32:48.000 You know, Steve Bannon was talking about that.

02:32:50.000 He was talking about Trump, like the people that are afraid of Trump.

02:32:53.000 He's a moderate.

02:32:55.000 He's a moderate in this movement. 1.00

02:32:57.000 And believe me, if you guys fuck with him more, someone else is going to come along that's going to resonate with these people that realize they're getting fucked. 0.99

02:33:05.000 And it's going to be just like what's happening in Argentina. 1.00

02:33:09.000 Where this guy gets elected and he's like, fuck everything. 1.00

02:33:12.000 Everything's gotta go. 1.00

02:33:13.000 Everything's gotta go.

02:33:14.000 And it's wild because people are very excited about that. 0.98

02:33:17.000 There's a groundswell of people that are really fucking fed up with this bullshit being implemented in all sorts of countries all over the world. 0.97

02:33:27.000 They're passing these wild hate speech laws in the UK, we were talking about yesterday, where you can get arrested if you have something on your phone that could be used to incite violence. 0.97

02:33:39.000 So if someone sends you a meme, it's a hilarious meme, that someone decides that meme could incite violence because it's offensive, they could arrest you. 0.99

02:33:50.000 This is wild, wild shit. 0.99

02:33:52.000 And this is the kind of thought process that leads us down a very bad path. 1.00

02:33:58.000 I think that that's where people start to sell this thing as this is a utopian future, right?

02:34:05.000 Where everybody's equal, everything is the same.

02:34:08.000 We're all, you know, in this fictional reality together.

02:34:11.000 But what they don't understand is it does not look like that.

02:34:15.000 It looks like a dystopian nightmare is what it looks like.

02:34:17.000 In order to get to this place that you're briefing us is so...

02:34:22.000 Amazing and equal.

02:34:24.000 It has to take so much control.

02:34:26.000 It's anti-psychology.

02:34:28.000 It's anti-human.

02:34:29.000 It's anti-freedom.

02:34:30.000 When you take a person's freedom, that's the most valuable thing that we have.

02:34:35.000 You're taking away the human purpose.

02:34:39.000 And that's the thing that I often kind of like wrestle with with people.

02:34:44.000 It's like you can't take away an individual's purpose and expect or try to and expect that to go well.

02:34:51.000 It's just not.

02:34:52.000 It's not.

02:34:52.000 Like you can't put them in into a factory job and say, well, you know what?

02:34:57.000 This is your plight in life for the rest of your life.

02:34:59.000 This is what you're going to do and take away their entire existence in essence, their ability to create and thrive as an individual.

02:35:07.000 That doesn't work.

02:35:08.000 It doesn't work.

02:35:09.000 And also, you're going to get the haves and the have-nots like you had in Cuba. 0.95

02:35:13.000 You get the haves and the have-nots like you have in China. 1.00

02:35:16.000 China has kind of a hybrid system, right?

02:35:18.000 They allow some form of capitalism until you step out of line.

02:35:22.000 And they send you to the bodies exhibit.

02:35:25.000 It's wild how many young people are not getting this information.

02:35:30.000 I think many young people are getting it now.

02:35:32.000 They understand it now because of podcasts. 1.00

02:35:36.000 But still, they're outnumbered by the people that are just the zombies that are buying into this shit wholesale. 1.00

02:35:43.000 And they're out there. 0.99

02:35:44.000 And they're out there with these very strong opinions that are not very well researched at all, a lack of understanding of human nature, and also a lack of understanding of all the forces that have led them to this particular ideology in the first place.

02:35:59.000 We are, as a culture, being manipulated.

02:36:02.000 We're being manipulated.

02:36:03.000 And it's moving us further and further away from just sanity, just pure sanity.

02:36:14.000 It's the foundations of Western logic, right?

02:36:32.000 Physics and math, and you name the thing that's under assault, it's under assault today.

02:36:37.000 And I think, who benefits from that?

02:36:39.000 You just have to look around and say, who benefits from that?

02:36:41.000 Oh, our foes.

02:36:43.000 That's who benefits from this.

02:36:45.000 Not much has changed.

02:36:47.000 If you think...

02:36:51.000 2,500 years ago, we'll say Socrates was put to death for corrupting the youth, I think is what it was.

02:37:01.000 And I'm trying to recall it.

02:37:03.000 But he was out there on the street arguing and debating with people, talking about ideas.

02:37:08.000 And the Athenians were like... 0.70

02:37:11.000 I think?

02:37:36.000 I think?

02:37:45.000 In letting people realize, like, hey, these people that are supposed to be your leaders, they're compromised. 1.00

02:37:51.000 And they're fucking you. 0.99

02:37:53.000 And there's some things that they're doing now that they're just doing. 1.00

02:37:56.000 And, like, what is the economic consequence of the hundreds of billions of dollars that are being spent?

02:38:03.000 On these wars that we're not interested in.

02:38:06.000 What are the economic consequences?

02:38:08.000 Where are the actual legal consequences for...

02:38:13.000 I mean, here's an easy one, which is we invaded a country of Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. 0.94

02:38:20.000 That didn't exist.

02:38:21.000 Yeah.

02:38:22.000 Not one person went to jail.

02:38:23.000 We spent more time trying to connect this fiction around Russian collusion for two years than we did investigating why there was a massive information operation internally to the United States that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

02:38:38.000 Not one person went to jail.

02:38:40.000 Not one person stepped in front of Congress and had depositions around why did you say that there was weapons of mass destruction when there wasn't.

02:38:49.000 Not one person.

02:38:50.000 But we spent how many trillions of dollars on this war?

02:38:53.000 And how many people died?

02:38:55.000 Yeah.

02:38:55.000 How many innocent Iraqis died?

02:38:57.000 Well, I mean, these are hundreds of thousands of people.

02:38:59.000 I mean, my peer group alone is just thousands of people that are physically and mentally altered forever that spent, you could say, the best years of our life in a war under false pretenses.

02:39:13.000 And now, the long-term effects are coming back, and also the government doesn't want to pay for that bill as well.

02:39:20.000 Yeah, they were trying to deny Gulf War Syndrome, remember that?

02:39:25.000 When they were using depleted uranium rounds?

02:39:27.000 So these people were all getting radiation poisoning, and their children were born deformed, and they were having these massive problems, and they were trying to deny it, because they didn't want to pay for it.

02:39:38.000 They don't want to pay for it.

02:39:39.000 They don't want to write the check.

02:39:41.000 They do when it directly benefits what I would say is the military-industrial complex and these wars of occupation.

02:39:48.000 I don't want to make it sound like I'm anti.

02:39:50.000 I think there's a difference between a war of necessity that maintains national sovereignty and a long-term war of choice for occupation.

02:40:01.000 A war of choice in occupation is an exercise in transference of wealth from the taxpayer into the military-industrial complex.

02:40:08.000 And that's, like, first-hand experience spending 2003 to 2009 in Iraq.

02:40:15.000 I mean, that's a lot of time.

02:40:18.000 Four and a half years on the ground and then another three years in Afghanistan.

02:40:23.000 Just seeing the expense from blood and treasure alone over the course of 10 years of deployments and understanding what the difference is between precision, tracking, and then killing terrorists and what we needed to do in order to stabilize a region and then long-term,

02:40:44.000 massive wars of occupation.

02:40:46.000 There's a very distinct difference.

02:40:48.000 Yeah, I think that's very important to bring up.

02:40:51.000 And it's also very important to bring up that you have to have military power because other countries have it.

02:41:01.000 And people who don't think that you should support the military, there's people that think all military is evil.

02:41:07.000 Listen, if we didn't have it, what do you think would happen?

02:41:11.000 What do you think would happen?

02:41:14.000 Do you think the whole world would lay down their arms if we did?

02:41:17.000 Do you think that's what would happen?

02:41:19.000 We have to live in reality. 0.99

02:41:21.000 And the reality of this world, and you know it better than anybody, this world is a fucking messy place. 0.98

02:41:28.000 We live in a bubble here, a very protected artificial reality. 0.97

02:41:35.000 When you get out into the most dangerous places in the world, that's where you see nature.

02:41:43.000 That's where you see the real rules of life, which is...

02:41:48.000 I think?

02:42:04.000 But really, you strip every piece of what you know around rules, around what's right and wrong.

02:42:13.000 Your morality is put into question.

02:42:15.000 Your mortality is at stake all the time.

02:42:19.000 And you see the real world.

02:42:22.000 It's eye-opening to the point of you...

02:42:28.000 You understand how great we have it in the United States and how beautiful this country is.

02:42:35.000 And you also understand how fragile life is and how brutal the world can be and how brutal humanity can be towards each other.

02:42:45.000 You know it can be gone like that.

02:42:50.000 I think being exposed to it for that long and then coming home, the things that I've been able to pull away from that are, this place is amazing.

02:43:00.000 It's beautiful.

02:43:02.000 It's something that we should foster and encourage and continue to pass down through generations because we're so fucking fortunate to have hit the birth lottery being born here.

02:43:14.000 Yeah.

02:43:16.000 I roll out of bed every day, man. 0.96

02:43:17.000 I'm like, this is fucking awesome. 0.90

02:43:19.000 I'm so happy to be alive. 0.96

02:43:21.000 I'm so happy to have all my fingers and toes.

02:43:24.000 And I'm so happy for the experiences of war because it's shown me what it's like to... 0.89

02:43:36.000 Understand my mortality, sometimes second to second, but for sure day to day for years on end and understand that we're only here for a short amount of time and we got to make it fucking count.

02:43:48.000 And we also have to be very grateful and gracious to what we have here for our freedoms and our country and our countrymen.

02:43:56.000 And the experience of war itself, that chaotic environment that's shown me Traffic rules don't apply over there, right?

02:44:07.000 It's like traffic lights and police officers and, you know, the things that we take for granted every day, going to work, you know, making our coffee, doing all the things that we do.

02:44:17.000 You strip all that away into just the law of nature.

02:44:23.000 It is wild.

02:44:24.000 It is forever life-changing, but you also understand this is what we're living in.

02:44:31.000 This is the actual consequence of what we're living in.

02:44:34.000 We're very protected in the way that we live life right now.

02:44:37.000 Yeah, I'm real glad you said that.

02:44:40.000 I'm real glad you relayed that message that way.

02:44:42.000 People need to hear it. 1.00

02:44:44.000 Let's wrap this bitch up. 1.00

02:44:45.000 Sweet. 1.00

02:44:45.000 Appreciate you, brother. 1.00

02:44:46.000 Thanks, man.

02:44:47.000 Always a good time.

02:44:48.000 Yeah, dude.

02:44:48.000 Evan Hafer, ladies and gentlemen.

02:44:50.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 29, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer

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