Joe Rogan is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and podcaster. He is also the host of the podcast "The Joe Rogan Experience" which is a podcast where he talks about anything and everything. In this episode, we talk about IQ tests, eugenics, and a bunch of other stuff. We also talk about a lot of other cool stuff, too, like Jordan Peterson and his theory of everything, and why experts are full of shit. Joe also talks about his new book, "The Theory of Everything," which is out now, and it's out on Amazon Prime and Vimeo. You can get a free copy of the book for only $19.99! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! -Jon Sorrentino and Jordan Peterson Joe Rogans Experience is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Please don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to our other shows on Podchaser.fm, and tell a friend about what you think of the show! Subscribe, rate, and review the show. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast and the podcast, it means the world to me and I can keep coming back for more episodes like this and more! more of your support is greatly appreciated! Timestamps: 0:00 -1:00:00-3:30 -3: 4:20 -10:00s-15:30s-16: 17:40s-18:00 19:00+ -20:40:15s-20s-25s-26s-27s-28s-33s-35s-36s-37s-38s-39s-41s-42s-43s-44s-45s-46s-47s-48s-49s-56s-57s-58s-1s-5s-6c-5c-4c-1c-7c-56c-8c?-1f-1p-1d-1m-1b=1f=1s=1c=1d=3f=2f=4c=3c=2c=4f=3d=1g=1p=1a?
00:01:08.000I don't know what my parents' IQs were.
00:01:10.000What if my parents were, you know, like, what if they got IQs and their IQ tests were really low?
00:01:18.000Well, I mean, isn't it possible that someone who's not that bright has a super smart kid, like, they give them enough vaccines and the kid comes out a genius?
00:02:24.000The stuff that he discusses is so complex that there's only like, what's the amount of people in the world that could even argue with him about it?
00:03:08.000I trust if I can understand what they're talking about and I know where maybe their conflicts lie, I can see, well, why would they be ignoring certain studies but highlighting others?
00:04:33.000That debate, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, that thing was so good, because I just love watching those guys intellectually eviscerate people, because it's hilarious to me.
00:04:45.000I do, but it becomes a bit of an intellectual rap battle.
00:04:51.000And that's what I don't like about it.
00:04:53.000I just feel like it's beneath those guys.
00:04:55.000And when I see guys like Malcolm dunking on people, I'm like...
00:05:03.000Shouldn't we just be discussing the data?
00:05:05.000Instead of trying to invoke an emotional response from someone, I understand why you would do that if you were fucking with someone, if you wanted to have an argument with someone, but what is this publicly for?
00:05:19.000Well, it's public because we're trying to understand who's right and who's wrong.
00:05:22.000I want to know why you think the way you think.
00:05:24.000There's clearly many different schools of thought when it comes to many cultural things, and people are fiercely opposed to the other side.
00:05:31.000I want to know where you're coming from.
00:05:33.000If you're dunking on people, like, now I do know where you're coming from.
00:06:10.000PBS used to do a series on just, you know, they'd take one topic and they'd chew it up and they'd figure out where's the crowd before and then where was the crowd after.
00:06:19.000And they're fascinating because when people are going from opposing points, they're going back and forth if they stick to facts and they don't get personal.
00:06:27.000Because that's when it actually starts to get, like, really?
00:06:29.000Now you're just kind of being personal.
00:06:32.000You're degrading the actual conversation.
00:06:38.000From my perspective, you look at it, it's kind of like watching a match, where you're watching two guys go back and forth, hit for hit, and seeing guys like Jordan and Douglas Murray or some of those guys really flex,
00:07:17.000You know, because, like, sometimes when people believe a thing so much, they haven't ever looked at the thing the way someone who doesn't believe in the thing looks at it.
00:07:40.000And when he brings those up in front of you and then the audience is laughing, it's like, ooh, this is a tough spot to be in.
00:07:47.000Because they're trying to pull out all the stops and try to figure out why you're right.
00:07:51.000When you got that much power to not only debate somebody on a subject with an encyclopedia of information and be funny so you can be charismatic, you can be logical, you can keep a measured tone...
00:09:00.000Like, they were losing in the ratings, and this was kind of a Hail Mary.
00:09:04.000Have William F. Buckley as the leading conservative, and Gore Vidal, who's this wild liberal.
00:09:10.000And so they were moderated on ABC. ABC. News coverage of the Republican National Convention in Miami.
00:09:19.000So this is 1968. They're fucking great, man.
00:09:22.000Because one of the things that people are learning through podcasts when you talk about guys like Eric Weinstein or guys like Jordan Peterson or Sam Harrison, people want to hear people talk.
00:09:35.000The people that are above that 85 IQ, you know, what is it, 84% of the population?
00:09:42.000The people that are above, those fucking people, they want to hear how interesting, intelligent people are discussing ideas.
00:09:49.000And you don't see any of that shit on TV. Except Bill Marshall.
00:09:54.000But even Bill Marshall, there's a lot of people talking over each other.
00:10:12.000If you want to chill with Bill and have a drink, he really does a fantastic job of just being himself.
00:10:19.000Isn't that interesting when you think about Bill Maher and his kind of outward appearance from his political point of view, which is typically going to be left, and then guys that go on a show and they have this really complex,
00:10:35.000interesting conversation, but for a bunch of people, they won't even watch Bill because he's left.
00:10:43.000They won't even watch, so they're going to stick in their echo chamber.
00:10:46.000They're going to continue to kind of...
00:10:49.000Propagate out speaking points from either platform.
00:10:52.000And they're never gonna go out and watch different things just based on a person's political view.
00:10:57.000Yeah, joining a political party or being in a political party like ideologically in your head is not good for you.
00:11:03.000It's bad for like there are a lot of things that people who are on the right Believe that I agree with and there's a lot of things that people on the left believe and I agree with and And I refuse.
00:11:15.000I refuse to be a part of this left versus right thing.
00:12:45.000You're balling out of control and there's a lot of pressure to keep that going and to appease the people that would make those decisions and to also be as marketable as humanly possible to everybody out there in the world so that you can maintain this job.
00:13:30.000I mean it's unwitting or witting essentially extortion to a certain degree because you're saying if you don't cooperate you're gonna be on the streets.
00:13:40.000And you're not gonna get picked for stuff.
00:13:43.000But it's a tyranny that like if there's one person or one group that has the overwhelming part of discerning who makes it or who doesn't make it they have the ability to choose who's the rock Yeah,
00:17:43.000Just beat that guy to death with a bowling pin.
00:17:45.000And then every little piece of that was put together perfectly from the way that his face was contorted to the level of breathing that he was participating in and then as he falls down.
00:18:54.000Maybe you can keep it together most of the time.
00:18:57.000Do you know there's people that keep it together most of the time, but If something goes sideways, there's like a little switch that you see go off in their head.
00:19:06.000And you're like, oh, the other Brad is here now.
00:21:53.000Keep that energy because that didn't go away forever.
00:21:57.000That was just a couple of years ago and the weirdness of life, the weirdness of the way the world works, some shit could pop off Anywhere and everywhere.
00:22:30.000Do you think it's part of the cultural differences between people, just in general, between red and blue and people?
00:22:39.000What I would say is, the question is there's people that are really individual, they want to take accountability, and there's other people that are like, I want to bury my head in the sand.
00:22:48.000And I want the government to take care of everything.
00:22:56.000There's a weird denial of possibility that comes along with not wanting preparedness.
00:23:04.000And it's one of the rare times, when I look at someone like Mike Glover being labeled a terrorist, it's one of the rare times I go, well, there might actually be a conspiracy to keep people weak.
00:23:16.000They might want to look at people like that as resistance to authoritarianism, and they want to squash that.
00:23:26.000It's one of the rare times where I don't look at it objectively.
00:23:29.000I look at decisions like that and go, oh, you like weak people.
00:23:44.000And when no one's armed, people comply.
00:23:48.000And when everyone's armed, it's really hard to get people to comply.
00:23:51.000Especially if they're kind of in agreement, if there's a large percentage of us that are in agreement, like, no, you can't listen to all my phone calls.
00:24:03.000Whether you work for whatever fucking agency, if I'm a guy who works at a tire shop who doesn't do anything wrong and you want to listen to all my phone calls, what?
00:24:14.000Look, if you find a guy who you know is fucking wearing a suicide vest, is about to walk into a wall, you know something's going on, yeah, listen to that guy's phone.
00:24:22.000And if you've got a chain of terrorists that you're studying and you need to listen to their phones, fuck yeah, listen to their phones.
00:24:30.000If a guy just likes to can peaches, and he owns a couple of 9mms in an AR, you want to listen to his phone?
00:24:37.000Wait, did you see where, this was last week, or maybe the week before last, they were talking about how they had TSA air marshals following people that were in DC. Not even at the Capitol, but they were in DC during January 6th.
00:24:53.000So they'd just been following these people around the United States.
00:24:58.000Yeah, they were saying they don't have the resources over the Thanksgiving travel period to staff the security needs from the, like, airlines because they had people that were air marshals, I believe, and I'm scrolling through this,
00:25:15.000following people that were just in D.C. They weren't even, like, implemented in anything.
00:25:41.000Man, I don't quite understand why they want that level of surveillance activity around people that quite literally might have only been in D.C. during that time period.
00:25:53.000The amount of pressure that they're putting on people to let them know that if there's ever anything like this again, this is what's going to happen.
00:28:08.000You know, when people talk about gun violence or they talk about crime or any, what you're talking about is freedom without responsibility.
00:28:17.000Even illegal immigration is freedom without responsibility.
00:29:03.000We'll say that the highly motivated people that will live their life with virtue and courage and pursue all of what I would say is Western philosophic principles...
00:29:17.000I think we collectively can be trusted with that responsibility.
00:29:21.000But then you have that other piece that's saying, I don't want to have anything to do with that.
00:29:26.000I'd rather have a safe, secure existence without any accountability or responsibility.
00:29:34.000That's why, and this isn't like, it's not meant to be like over complimentary, but I think that's so, this show and other people, like you and Jocko and Cam and Jordan, whomever else that's kind of out there in the ecosystem,
00:29:51.000you guys are putting really good information out into the world saying like, I was to reference your podcast with Lex that you did maybe like a year ago.
00:30:14.000You should be propagating that out into the country, into the world, having men and women and everybody else saying, fuck yeah, I'm gonna take more accountability.
00:30:23.000I'm gonna be more responsible for my life.
00:30:25.000I'm gonna live radically free because that's fucking cool.
00:30:30.000That is what people who live in cities don't like.
00:30:35.000If you're living in a city and you're in an apartment building and you're an urbanist, so you have a scarf and you're going to get your latte and maybe you're getting an Uber or you're hopping in the subway.
00:31:46.000Yeah, it's almost a prescription for what I would say is, if you want to live within the safety and in the sanctuary of an urban environment where you've got everything mapped out to you, so you've been indoctrinated under a system of,
00:32:02.000like, bells and whistles, that conformity means everything in academia, which is don't stick out, you know, like...
00:32:12.000Be on time, be best in class, make sure that you're hitting all your bells and whistles when you move directly into that urban area where you're also working from 9 to 5 or whomever, you know, or whatever.
00:32:25.000It's like 60, 70 hours a week, but everything is laid out.
00:32:28.000It's very lockstep conformity all the way through.
00:32:33.000Dude, I have zero interest in doing that.
00:32:37.000That sounds like a prison to me, to be honest with you.
00:32:42.000Well, that's what's fascinating is that these people that we're talking about that live in these urban environments that have jobs like that and are not interested in physical health and are going to restaurants and doing all the things, those people are the most fucked up.
00:33:11.000There's that 15% of the people that have 85 or below IQ. What percentage of the people that live in cities that live like that are on antidepressants or some sort of psychoactive medication?
00:33:31.000There's another like 10% of people out there.
00:33:34.000So when you think about the numbers, depending on how much overlap there is, there's 50 million people between, you know, below 85 and then that are what you would say is clinically depressed and or on some type of psychological drug, right?
00:34:10.000Like, don't you feel better when you're doing well?
00:34:13.000Like, when you have a good relationship, you got a good group of friends, you gotta...
00:34:16.000Why don't we think of that as medicine?
00:34:19.000I... I've had a lot of time over the last, I would say, couple years to try to turn the bolts on this to figure out what it is that makes me happy or creates more endurance or energy or whatever it might be.
00:34:38.000Have you ever heard of this principle?
00:34:40.000It's like this old Greek term that they would use to define happiness and fulfillment through hard work and accomplishing your goals and objectives.
00:34:50.000So it's essentially being happy in establishing very difficult criteria for yourself and then adhering to it.
00:35:18.000So it's like I got to work to put out physical energy to even keep up, you know in a special operations team or Or whatever previous profession that I've had, I've got to push this thing to the red to carry weight, to carry enough energy that I can accomplish a task.
00:35:34.000And then when you're floating just above maybe an average IQ, you also have to run this thing in the red.
00:35:39.000There's no, like, plus or minus 5%, dude.
00:35:43.000Like, I have to get in and grind myself into moondust every day, and I've got to wring this sponge out of it.
00:35:50.000If I don't, well, I'm going to be just average because I'm average.
00:35:57.000But you found ways to use the way you think about things and figure out a path in life.
00:36:07.000I think the difference between a guy like you and these people we're talking about is some people are just looking for a place to plug in.
00:36:15.000And I think that's where the despair comes from.
00:36:18.000I think the despair comes from not having a real purpose, like not having anything you really built, or anything that you really feel proud of, or anything that you really feel like.
00:36:29.000Like your company, like Black Rifle, is creative.
00:36:33.000As well as like really great coffee and cool people and it's all veteran owned.
00:37:09.000You gotta hit the links on the weekend and, like, suck up to some other guy that, you know, pleaded, front-docker-wearing, like, back-slapping guy that you're like, ah, man, like...
00:38:07.000It doesn't even compute my DNA. I have to look at something from a bigger purpose, look at the mission, the goals and objectives, be somewhat altruistic, and then just fucking dive in.
00:38:18.000Then you can be selfless in some of what you're doing, and you can kind of behave as a cog in the wheel, which I think is actually...
00:38:29.000A really important piece to development is how many people have ever worked as just a number?
00:38:40.000And creating value with a team with a bigger purpose, I think...
00:38:45.000That's what guys in the military and guys from my background, as they transition out, they go through what I would say is an existential crisis because their life has meaning.
00:40:40.000The only time I worked is when I like if I needed money to buy a car or something like that I'd get a job and I'd do that but I was in hell thinking like imagine having to do this for life like although I had a bunch of my dad was an architect so I had a bunch of construction jobs growing up and Those fucking taught me that I don't want to do that.
00:42:34.000He worked in the woods my entire life.
00:42:37.000But I wasn't good at shit, which is also good.
00:42:43.000I like to fuck around with my buddies and I like to do interesting things, I guess, for that, like try to jump motorcycles or whatever kind of random shit you'd come up with.
00:42:54.000But as I got into the military, I was like, oh...
00:44:14.000And then as we grew the company after about the first year, it became really evident that I could not only do something because I had this beautiful family that I loved, like my kids and my wife, and they're giving me so much power and endurance.
00:44:30.000What if I built this really cool company where you could leave the family that you love and go to work in a company that you love and then it would become a flywheel.
00:44:38.000It would just get faster and faster and faster in your life and create more happiness, more fulfillment.
00:44:43.000What if I could scale that and give that to other people?
00:44:48.000And so far, I mean, it's fucking worked.
00:48:42.000That bull that you killed, Paraphors, like that thing was so cool to watch because I watched the entire thing and I'll recite it from my position because I couldn't really see you.
00:50:11.000They're always tuned in to what the fuck is going on, and the only time you catch them slipping is when they're hungry, they're tired, or they want to fuck.
00:55:08.000He was so nuts that when I had to fix him, he was like, I guess he's like, when I got him, a friend of mine had these cats under her apartment.
00:55:19.000And her and her boyfriend captured these cats, these little kittens, and she goes, you want a kitten?
00:55:48.000And I was like, oh, this poor little dude.
00:55:50.000So to get him accustomed to me, I had to stay in one of the bedrooms in this house that I was renting just with him.
00:55:57.000So I brought some books in there, I brought his litter box, and I brought cat food, and I just hung out with this fucking cat for like days in this room.
00:56:06.000And I had to do it that way because every time I would leave when I'd come back in, he would literally Climb the walls, just hissing and jumping and clawing at the drapes.
00:59:13.000The Journal of Nature Communications cats kill between 1.4 billion and 3.7 billion birds and between 6.9 billion and 20.7 billion small mammals.
01:02:24.000So we came home the other night, and Marshall had eaten chicken food that was outside on gravel, but he didn't bother to differentiate between the gravel and the chicken food, so he ate about two pounds of gravel.
01:07:36.000One of the things about bows, for people who don't know, unlike firearms, which are essentially, like, if you have a, like, a SIG P365, that's what that gun is.
01:07:49.000Like, if you got that gun five years ago, like, they made a comp version of the 365, so they put compensation in the barrel, which makes it a little better, a little easier to shoot.
01:09:29.000I do like that, but I keep going back to the Noctuit because the thing about the stand clicker is this is nerd talk folks.
01:09:37.000It makes your draw length one quarter inch longer because it's one quarter inch longer than the head of the Noctuit, which I'm so accustomed to.
01:09:47.000So all my anchor points are slightly different.
01:09:49.000So with the stand, the string is just a quarter inch further forward.
01:09:54.000And there's something about that that maybe I have to get used to.
01:09:58.000Maybe if I pull harder on the wall, I maintain the same stability.
01:10:02.000Or maybe if I extend my arm out a little bit more, I maintain the same stability.
01:10:08.000Because I've been using Dudley's archery releases for so long.
01:10:13.000Like, between the Too Smooth, the hinge, which I really like, and then his other one, the Noctuit, which is the thumb button, that I really like.
01:12:25.000That's where I'm at because I had mine set way too tight and I would be...
01:12:31.000Essentially, it'd be pulling and pressing on the release slow, looking at it kind of like a firearm trigger, saying slow pressure, build the pressure, straight back, no deviation.
01:12:43.000And I'd go through this entire shot process from the rifle that I was incorporating into the bow.
01:12:50.000But I'm taking too much time on the back end really building into my thumb release versus when you're ready...
01:13:13.000The way to go is hot sauce with a good shot process.
01:13:17.000But you have to have a controlled shot process.
01:13:19.000In my mind, I have a whole process, that Joel Turner process, that I put myself through.
01:13:24.000So it's really just all about not hammering the trigger over anxiety.
01:13:30.000It's really all just about staying calm and letting it happen and knowing exactly what you're doing.
01:13:35.000Do you concentrate on breathing through your nose and trying to get more oxygen as you're going through the thought process or do you just open your mouth?
01:13:44.000I concentrate on breathing through my nose when I'm calming myself down as I'm moving towards the show.
01:13:49.000In that particular moment, my heart was pounding as I was closing the gap because I was like, I think I'm going to get this motherfucker.
01:17:00.000It has a strange effect because I don't get hardly any anxiety ever for anything really like unless I'm in a car wreck or something right where it's I'm not trying to do that but the elk hunting for some reason you you get in front of this animal and You get ramped up.
01:17:20.000I'm always talking to myself like, what the fuck?
01:17:25.000It's not like the swords on this thing's head are going to come after you.
01:17:31.000Why is your body doing what it's doing right now?
01:17:34.000So I have to have this whole process of calm myself down, breathe through my nose.
01:17:39.000And then once I get into the shot, it's fine.
01:17:43.000But building into that shot for some reason, you start going, I need to wear a heart monitor and just watch to see how high that thing gets as you're moving in on a stock on the animal.
01:17:54.000Because As you're building into that moment, there's that time before you can settle into that position where You're questioning, like, why am I so, so ramped up right now?
01:18:54.000There's no way you're going to plant a stalk on this bull in the position that he's at.
01:18:57.000Especially with the way the thermals are all going up.
01:19:00.000So we start moving down this canyon, and as we're moving down this canyon, the bull just randomly decides to run his cows down into the bottom, and they're realizing, oh shit, this can happen.
01:19:14.000And so as that's happening, I stop myself from getting ramped up.
01:19:22.000I just recognized it was possibly coming because I see him making his way down this ridge, and he's going right to where we're going, and we know that there's a pond down there.
01:19:32.000So if the pond is where he's going, he's going to go to get a drink, and he's going to come right down through this bottom, and that's where he's going to be at.
01:24:02.000If you can do that, you'll feel better.
01:24:05.000It sounds nuts, but the way he described it and the studies that he shows, there's enough evidence to point to that, at least for some people, that's a very beneficial way to eat and live.
01:24:17.000But I think really what it is is This thing of eating only meat, I think for sure meat's very nutritious, but I think a big factor in that is that you're just cutting out all the crap.
01:24:29.000And if you just eat only meat and organic vegetables, I don't think that's bad.
01:26:59.000Yeah, I think the Israelis have actually figured that out.
01:27:03.000They have like full plants that they're out there doing.
01:27:07.000I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie, because I saved, I think I screenshotted it with the intention of looking it up later to make sure it's legitimate.
01:27:29.000Yeah, and then a bunch of Fight Companions, and then a bunch of MMA shows.
01:27:33.000So it's more than 2000. When you think about all the different pieces of information that you've cataloged in your head with all these different interviews, I can't imagine the information that you've put out, too, just in terabytes as far as the volume is concerned.
01:27:49.000Now you've got interviews with Elon, from Jordan, from all these different people.
01:28:29.000So, engineers at MIT and in China are aiming to turn seawater into drinking water with a completely passive device that is inspired by the ocean and then powered by the sun.
01:29:16.000Produces about four to six liters of drinking water per hour and lasts several years before requiring replacement parts.
01:29:22.000One of the things that Gary Brecco is saying that I found What was shocking was that some Himalayan salt, like you always think of Himalayan salt as super healthy.
01:29:32.000He said, no, some of it has mercury in it because some of it, the way they mine it, if they get too close to certain areas that contain mercury, it can be contaminated with mercury.
01:29:43.000And he was recommending Celtic salt over Himalayan salt.
01:34:31.000Senor Lechuga, you know, Half Face Blades, they did a combo with Senor Lechuga, and they put out this, it's like, it's got dried tomatoes, sun-dried tomatoes, It's got,
01:34:46.000I forget what the hot is, but it's also got truffles.
01:35:10.000And he's actually making me a set of chef knives and a couple other knives with the antler shed from the big bull that I killed with you two years ago.
01:37:56.000You know, when you're seeing these guys like Brian Simpson going up and murdering, he's doing all this new material, and Shane Gillis is going up and murdering, and Tony Hinchcliffe is going up and murdering, there's, like, a feeling in the building.
01:38:06.000Like, there's an excitement to the building.
01:38:09.000And that's what I wanted to create here.
01:38:11.000I wanted to create a real home for For these comics.
01:38:14.000And I also wanted to create a real development platform.
01:38:17.000I think that's a key part of comedy clubs that's missing from these places that just want to make money.
01:38:23.000Because you could take your Sunday and Monday and just bring in headliners and pack the house and make a lot of money.
01:38:29.000Or you can do open mic nights and develop talent and have these people have a real opportunity to get up at the best comedy club on earth for their very first time ever and go up and do a couple of minutes of jokes and see if you can get a laugh and you never know.
01:38:47.000You might be that fuck up in school that they always told you you're going to be a loser, but you have a funny way of saying things and you go up and maybe you have some insight that other people, maybe they would Be too scared to say or maybe they wouldn't notice it or maybe you'd point something out you never fucking know and the only way You get to develop talent is if you have some sort of a place for people to perform that aren't any good that are just starting out So we set aside two nights for that Every Sunday and every Monday we have open mic night and we also have people that
01:39:17.000work there are aspiring comedians all the door people they all had to they all had to audition with their act So the town coordinator, Adam, had to go and watch them perform.
01:39:30.000And there was this giant audition for door people.
01:39:40.000When everybody's doing good, Ahsan, who's just a fucking amazing dude and hilarious comedian who's at the club all the time, he said, whenever something happens with the door people or anybody else in the club, everybody always says, we up.
01:40:22.000You can make it really good and have it set up where the comedians get paid really well and everybody gets taken care of and you feel really good about it and it's a fun place to work and it's a good environment for everybody.
01:40:36.000It almost seems like the center of gravity from comedy has moved off the coast to Austin.
01:40:45.000And I think, and I'm probably not the first person to say that, but you're the guy that has kind of moved the epicenter of comedy over here.
01:40:56.000I mean, it was me because I financed it and it was my idea, but it was also, we all need a spot, and if one of us can do it and put it together, I'm a good person to do that, because that's what I like to do.
01:41:49.000Get great comics, pay them well, and have a place where people can go where they know that they're gonna be able to work on their act, everyone's phone's locked up, so that people aren't distracted and they're not filming things, and just having a good fucking time.
01:42:03.000Let's just work together and fucking all get better together and have a real home base.
01:42:09.000And I had the ability to do it, so I said, it's kind of my obligation to do it.
01:42:13.000The universe put me in this place where All of a sudden, I moved out of LA. All of a sudden, I'm in Texas, and all these other comedians come out here with me.
01:42:23.000I'm like, who's going to do it if I'm not doing it?
01:44:18.000It's like how crazy cult leaders are and what type of personality that person is and what happens to people.
01:44:27.000I love those mockumentaries that a few people have done around cult leaders, and I think there's a series on Netflix that went into like a three-part episode.
01:44:36.000Yeah, How to Be a Cult Leader, I think it's called.
01:44:40.000Well, it's just like you were talking about before, while 15% of the people have an IQ lower than 85, and some people just want to be led.
01:44:47.000There's a bunch of people, a bunch, who are really lost and never develop the tools to be, Personally responsible for themselves.
01:45:01.000They never developed the ability to be autonomous.
01:45:04.000They never developed the ability to have their own thoughts and the objective analysis of all the information and coming up with a rational conclusion.
01:45:15.000They don't have people around them that could bounce these ideas off, that they respect, that they can go, what about this?
01:45:20.000And that person goes, yeah, but you have to also consider this.
01:45:24.000Hmm, okay, so what is really going on?
01:45:27.000Like they don't have that in their life and so some fucking dude comes along and he's wearing Speedos and he does yoga and he tells you he can give you the knowing and you can be in touch with God and you just fucking you buy into it and it's it feels better than being by yourself and you're hanging out with all these people and everyone's cooking together and you're doing yoga together Seems good.
01:45:56.000But he was like, in the beginning, he was like, God, I want to live like that.
01:46:00.000It all goes bad at the end, but in the beginning, we're like, God, I want to live like that.
01:46:04.000I go, I kind of want to live like that, too.
01:46:06.000Everybody wants to be a part of something bigger than them, and especially if it's a cool community where everybody's nice to each other, and you're all connected to God, and you're all part of this movement of spreading love and hope throughout the world.
01:48:09.000I think the whole leader thing is there might be people that you admire or you see them as someone who is a great example of how to live life, like whether it's Jocko or many of these people that put that out there.
01:48:22.000Jocko is one of the best examples of it.
01:48:24.000He's written books about extreme ownership.
01:48:27.000There's valuable, valuable lessons in that kind of stuff.
01:48:31.000But I think even with guys like him, it comes natural.
01:48:36.000He is just telling you what he learned.
01:49:05.000So you can see a guy who, like, I was hanging out with this friend of mine who's this very wealthy guy who owns all these businesses, and one of the things that I was super inspired by is how nice he is to everyone.
01:50:10.000You always used to hear about that, especially before the internet.
01:50:13.000Yeah, and I mean, some of the best leadership examples that I've had in my life were guys that were bad, toxic leaders.
01:50:19.000Because you're like, God, I do not want to be even close to that guy.
01:50:23.000And, you know, I've had just the, I guess, the fortunate opportunity to serve under some really incredible people and with amazing people that just inspire you through action.
01:50:38.000And, like, one of those guys I've had a really close relationship over the last few years is Johnny Morris, the founder of Bass Pro.
01:51:28.000I don't know how many stores that he's opened.
01:51:30.000I don't know exactly what his individual wealth is, but he's humble, he's incredibly kind, and he's always there to offer an opportunity for somebody.
01:51:41.000We went out to one of his places in Arizona.
01:51:44.000He just sat with me for A full day, just talking about brand.
01:51:50.000He's sitting on the couch in his slippers.
01:51:53.000We're going through brand and brand moments and how important those can be and how important it is for your customer.
01:52:06.000And it's like those little pieces that I can pull away from incredible leaders, people that inspire me, or whatever it is.
01:52:14.000It's not only the good people that you can find where they're authentically engaging with you, but it's also the flip side of that where you're like, this guy is incredibly successful, and there's another person that's very toxic, and they're not engaging people in an authentic way.
01:52:30.000I don't want to be even close to those people.
01:52:33.000It's like when people have alcoholic parents, you know, they're in and out of jail, always getting arrested, and those people wind up being super disciplined.
01:52:51.000Like, there's a lot of people that live their life by the negative example.
01:52:55.000They go, I am never going to live that life.
01:52:58.000I know a lot of people who don't drink at all, not because they have a drinking problem, but because someone in their family had a drinking problem.
01:53:05.000It's one of the reasons why I've never done coke.
01:53:07.000I had a buddy of mine in high school, and his cousin used to sell coke, and I watched his life fall apart.
01:53:11.000And I remember thinking, oh my god, this guy was fucking so normal and cool, and now all of a sudden he's a vampire hiding.
01:54:55.000Yeah, I think that's where, especially if you're in a combat sport, definitely from my subculture of the people that I grew up with in the military, we're always concerned about brain injury, TBI. I think one of the most positive benefits that Right.
01:56:09.000Like, that whole brain, the whole punch drunk thing, which people always used to call it punch drunk before they called it pugilistica dementia.
01:56:17.000But punch drunk, they are kind of drunk.
01:56:21.000And then you give them alcohol, and they get really fucked up.
01:56:26.000And there's a lot of people just walking around like that.
01:56:29.000And also your endocrine system's disrupted.
01:56:33.000Your body's not producing dopamine or serotonin properly anymore because of the brain injuries.
01:56:38.000And so then you're looking for something to get you out of this fog of depression.
01:56:43.000And a lot of them turn to drink it, which is crazy because it's a depressive.
01:56:49.000It's very, very similar in the veteran community because guys will come out, they're redefining themselves, trying to find purpose in their lives.
01:56:57.000They get depressed because they're dislocated from their tribe, the people they've been emotionally, physically, psychologically more connected to than sometimes their family.
01:57:08.000And then they are dealing with overpressure and or they've been blown up guaranteed because even on internal breaches and explosives on targets, you're going to be exposed to the overpressure from the explosives.
01:57:21.000You're going to have some type of impact on your brain.
01:57:24.000Like I would say guaranteed if you came out of the special operations community.
01:57:29.000And then they switch, and I've seen it.
01:57:31.000There's too many examples for me to list, but I've seen it directly impact in a negative way because they switch to alcohol, and then they find themselves in the bottom of a bottle, and it doesn't get better.
01:57:45.000It doesn't improve their life in any way, shape, or form.
01:58:06.000I mean, it directly affects me every day, whether it's the war itself or the post-effects of war itself.
01:58:17.000I've talked about this a few times where it's like, Iraq is with me every day of my life.
01:58:21.000Whether I like it or don't like it, I've just dealt with it.
01:58:24.000And now I'm just trying to do the best that I can to make sure that, one, the machine is 100% capacity, and two, that I can be an example for other guys to say, you know what, I don't have to.
01:58:38.000I don't have to be in a social circumstance and have a drink.
01:58:41.000I can reach out to a friend if, you know, even if you just reach out to people now and again and just say, hey, what's up?
01:58:52.000And I think that's one of the reasons why fighters and military guys...
01:59:01.000Find each other a lot and there's a huge percentage of veterans that get into jiu-jitsu and some of the things after after service They're looking for a community.
01:59:10.000They're looking for something physical And and I see a lot of parallels between that mmm makes sense.
01:59:18.000Yeah I would think military guys like jiu-jitsu and martial arts would be an automatic makes sense and complete makes sense to help you transition and And also just a great thing to keep your head in check, keep your mind right.
01:59:33.000Martial arts, particularly jujitsu, is a really good one because there's no head impacts.
01:59:37.000And, you know, you can keep your mind right.
01:59:39.000The problem with sparring, like, if you get into striking sports...
01:59:43.000You're getting damage, believe it or not.
01:59:46.000Even if you're light sparring, you're getting popped.
01:59:59.000You have to have really good training partners when it comes to striking where you really trust them that they're not going to hit you hard.
02:00:06.000And even then, sometimes accidentally they hit you hard.
02:00:09.000Like, you zig when you should have zagged, you run into something, it just happens.
02:00:13.000But with jiu-jitsu, you cut that down, way down.
02:00:16.000Like, the amount of head injuries and impacts and concussions in jiu-jitsu is tiny in comparison.
02:00:22.000Every now and then you accidentally collide heads.
02:00:24.000Or you accidentally catch a knee to the head and you get knocked silly.
02:01:36.000If you're listening out there and you're sparring and you're fucking tuning up on your friends and you guys are beating the shit out of each other, That counts for the rest of your life whether your coach is telling you that or not those sparring sessions if you're going in there and you're getting dropped and you're getting rocked and you're rocking people and dropping people you guys are giving each other brain damage a hundred percent and I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine who Was a professional fighter who is now dealing with one of his friends
02:02:07.000who's suicidal and Who used to be a professional fighter and they were talking about the sparring sessions that they had.
02:02:12.000They were talking about, jeez, maybe we shouldn't have been beating the fuck out of each other all those years.
02:02:17.000And in the early days of MMA in particular, now they're a little bit more sophisticated about it and they're much more aware of preserving yourself.
02:02:26.000Like there's certain guys like Max Holloway doesn't even spar.
02:03:53.000It seems like the guy was just obliterated drunk and he thought the guy was trying to rob him, but I think the guy was just shit-faced and he was looking for his keys or something.
02:06:07.000So you could talk all the shit you want, you know, because Strickland seems like he's got this awkward style and people think he's not as good as he is, but you watch him tune dudes up, you're like, that guy's a motherfucker, man.
02:06:20.000You know, he spars more than anybody in the UFC, and they put a mouthpiece that measures how many times you get hit.
02:11:42.000They're saying things in a way that's either ironic or sarcastic or it's a parody or whatever, but it's very funny.
02:11:48.000And it's very funny and uses outrageous language and uses what people would think is problematic stereotypes and all kinds of shit like that.
02:11:56.000And there was a lot of liberal comedians that would walk that line and be really good at it.
02:12:01.000You know, they would say something racist from the perspective of a racist person and make fun of that person, but also make fun of the way that person's talking about things and the way that person's talking about things are also funny.
02:13:31.000I mean, all of those guys are 100% on the woke side of things.
02:13:35.000Yeah, now they're like kind of, they woke themselves out of jobs.
02:13:38.000They woke themselves out of one of the most cherished aspects of movie-going times, which is going to see a great offensive movie, like the Farrelly Brothers, like something about Mary.
02:15:50.000They've got to go really deep into these obscure philosophical conversations that don't make sense.
02:15:58.000I think part of it is, like, I truly do believe that there's part of this that's I think that we're in the middle of this information operation, and I think people wittingly and unwittingly are participating in this crazy,
02:16:26.000And you're trying to cause cultural divides, and they're trying to divide us, they're trying to make us argue, because they're the ones that directly reap the benefits of all this chaos.
02:16:34.000Who else would reap the benefits of this?
02:16:37.000Yeah, it's laid out by Yuri Bezmenov in the 1980s.
02:16:42.000And people who haven't seen that, go watch this video.
02:17:11.000But he outlined it in terms of how many generations it would take for a complete moral decay and a complete Complete, like, an erosion of our faith in the democratic process.
02:18:10.000This kind of nutty shit has made it all the way to jujitsu.
02:18:14.000Do you think that eventually it loses the effectiveness of the term if they're just overusing, you know, fascist and Nazi in every sentence?
02:18:23.000Do you think eventually it at least runs out of inertia because they've used it so much that it loses its effectiveness?
02:18:48.000That's what's so offensive about calling someone who doesn't want a biological male with a mental disorder to compete against women.
02:18:55.000In a jujitsu match, that's why it's so offensive to call anybody who objects to that a Nazi, because there are Nazis.
02:19:04.000Like, no, I think biological males have a massive advantage, and I'm not going to live in your Narnia world and pretend they don't, because it's fucking stupid and it's dangerous.
02:19:14.000And that's the reality of the world we're living in right now.
02:19:17.000There's a bunch of people that, whether willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly, they've given into this what percentage of it is put out by our enemies, what percentage of it is really effective psychological warfare through manipulation of social media algorithms and through use of bots and troll farms.
02:20:04.000They've got a long-term look at how they can directly affect and ultimately degrade what we believe as Americans because they benefit from that.
02:20:15.000So if people don't believe that, you're just living in a false reality, period.
02:20:20.000Yeah, you're living in a false reality and you're not taking into account all the things we discussed earlier about some people fall into cults.
02:20:27.000Some people, 15% of them have an IQ below 85. Like all that shit is a factor because they're really easily led.
02:20:36.000And if you are one of those people, maybe you don't have an 85 IQ, maybe it's 89, maybe it's 90, maybe you're just gullible.
02:20:44.000You can get sucked into thinking this is the only way to think, and if you see it magnified in your social media algorithm because of China, because of Russia, and because of these troll farms which we absolutely know exist, it shifts the narrative.
02:20:57.000It shifts the way people discuss and think about things.
02:21:02.000When people start going against the grain, they get attacked by all these trolls.
02:21:06.000It fucking puts the brakes on a lot of discussions.
02:21:10.000And that's the only way that we're going to move the ball forward, and I hate using sports analogies, but that's the only way we're going to be able to move things forward is if we can get out of what I would say is the idiot circus participating in these nonsense subjects versus,
02:21:27.000hey, guys, we have to maintain our sovereignty.
02:21:31.000We have to maintain what we would call our principles internationally.
02:22:24.000Whether you realize it or not, whether you're overconfident, Maybe your own ability to navigate waters, and you're like, it's not affecting me.
02:22:46.000You know, and if you go against it, you're a Nazi.
02:22:49.000Like, this whole men using the women's bathroom.
02:22:52.000Like, listen, I'm not an anti-trans person, but if you don't believe that there are certain male predators that are sex offenders that wouldn't take advantage of the ability to wear a dress and then all of a sudden be able to go into any woman's room they want, well, they definitely do.
02:23:09.000And you don't have a way of discerning who's a legitimate trans person that has gender dysphoria that really just wants to be accepted as a woman and who's a sick fuck who just wants to go watch women's shit because those guys are real too.
02:23:22.000And if you don't agree with that, if you don't say that those people are real, now all of a sudden you've created a whole category of sexual predators that prey on women that have a Willy Wonka golden ticket.
02:23:39.000Now they can just go into women's spaces.
02:23:40.000They can go into women's locker rooms.
02:24:52.000Give them a hall pass and then you can monopolize the conversation and the country around quite literally small, meaningless things versus saying, you know, these are big strategic threats to our way of life.
02:25:07.000And there are people outside of this country every day that are looking to undermine our entire premise of what we've built over the course of the last several hundred years.
02:25:19.000I mean, I don't even necessarily say that I believe in this and it's not a feeling.
02:25:24.000It is what it is in the context of spending most of my life overseas and working against these intelligence agencies.
02:25:30.000You know what they're capable of and you know what they're doing.
02:25:36.000They love this chaotic, weird conversation that we're trapped in, arguing about all of these different things, because at that point, we're taking our eye off the ball.
02:25:46.000They love the fact that we are trapped in this endless cycle of wars of occupation where we spent trillions of dollars.
02:27:30.000I asked Mike Baker and he fucking gave me the runaround.
02:27:32.000I think, here's my honest, you know, everybody starts a conversation by saying, here's my honest opinion.
02:27:41.000But my assessment in this is I think that we have forfeited portions of foreign service to the left in the context of Woke-ism,
02:27:57.000politically correct, like the act of maintaining your sovereignty in the context of military and then economically is not politically correct.
02:28:10.000In that rhetoric and then implement a strategic long-term goals and objectives that are going to meet and exceed what we have to do to maintain America and ultimately America's power overseas if you believe in it.
02:28:25.000You just can't because it's not politically correct.
02:28:28.000If you believe that all nations are created equal and all political ideologies are equal, that's just wrong.
02:29:26.000They're going out and they're not willing to implement at the same degree that they might have been able to in the 1960s and 70s in the context of zero-sum game.
02:29:52.000When they're failed and they're bad for freedom, which I tend to believe in radical freedom, when they're bad for individual liberty, when they're bad for freedom, they gotta fucking die.
02:30:01.000And if you're going to have communism, you're going to need someone to enforce that.
02:30:05.000It only is implemented through tyranny.
02:30:16.000They want to stop at problem number seven and go, well, it's really important that we share wealth and economic...
02:30:24.000You know, disparity is wrong, and we should all have money from the state and equal money, and we should all share, and billionaires shouldn't exist.
02:30:54.000I mean, if you just had, should all the billionaires spend their money on free Twinkies and Mountain Dew, and you just left it to people who weren't billionaires to vote for, then yeah, fuck those people.
02:31:09.000There's a lot of people that'll tell you that.
02:31:11.000They don't want, like if you're starting off, you're playing a game, like the game's capitalism.
02:31:17.000If you're starting off and you're 20 years old, 21 years old, and you don't make any money, and you're out there trying to find your purpose in life, and then you're seeing someone who's been playing this game for 50 years, and he's flying around in a fucking private jet and getting driven around at a Rolls Royce, you're like, fuck that guy.
02:32:57.000And believe me, if you guys fuck with him more, someone else is going to come along that's going to resonate with these people that realize they're getting fucked.
02:33:05.000And it's going to be just like what's happening in Argentina.
02:33:09.000Where this guy gets elected and he's like, fuck everything.
02:33:14.000And it's wild because people are very excited about that.
02:33:17.000There's a groundswell of people that are really fucking fed up with this bullshit being implemented in all sorts of countries all over the world.
02:33:27.000They're passing these wild hate speech laws in the UK, we were talking about yesterday, where you can get arrested if you have something on your phone that could be used to incite violence.
02:33:39.000So if someone sends you a meme, it's a hilarious meme, that someone decides that meme could incite violence because it's offensive, they could arrest you.
02:35:44.000And they're out there with these very strong opinions that are not very well researched at all, a lack of understanding of human nature, and also a lack of understanding of all the forces that have led them to this particular ideology in the first place.
02:35:59.000We are, as a culture, being manipulated.
02:38:23.000We spent more time trying to connect this fiction around Russian collusion for two years than we did investigating why there was a massive information operation internally to the United States that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
02:38:40.000Not one person stepped in front of Congress and had depositions around why did you say that there was weapons of mass destruction when there wasn't.
02:38:57.000Well, I mean, these are hundreds of thousands of people.
02:38:59.000I mean, my peer group alone is just thousands of people that are physically and mentally altered forever that spent, you could say, the best years of our life in a war under false pretenses.
02:39:13.000And now, the long-term effects are coming back, and also the government doesn't want to pay for that bill as well.
02:39:20.000Yeah, they were trying to deny Gulf War Syndrome, remember that?
02:39:25.000When they were using depleted uranium rounds?
02:39:27.000So these people were all getting radiation poisoning, and their children were born deformed, and they were having these massive problems, and they were trying to deny it, because they didn't want to pay for it.
02:40:18.000Four and a half years on the ground and then another three years in Afghanistan.
02:40:23.000Just seeing the expense from blood and treasure alone over the course of 10 years of deployments and understanding what the difference is between precision, tracking, and then killing terrorists and what we needed to do in order to stabilize a region and then long-term,
02:42:50.000I think being exposed to it for that long and then coming home, the things that I've been able to pull away from that are, this place is amazing.
02:43:02.000It's something that we should foster and encourage and continue to pass down through generations because we're so fucking fortunate to have hit the birth lottery being born here.
02:43:21.000I'm so happy to have all my fingers and toes.
02:43:24.000And I'm so happy for the experiences of war because it's shown me what it's like to...
02:43:36.000Understand my mortality, sometimes second to second, but for sure day to day for years on end and understand that we're only here for a short amount of time and we got to make it fucking count.
02:43:48.000And we also have to be very grateful and gracious to what we have here for our freedoms and our country and our countrymen.
02:43:56.000And the experience of war itself, that chaotic environment that's shown me Traffic rules don't apply over there, right?
02:44:07.000It's like traffic lights and police officers and, you know, the things that we take for granted every day, going to work, you know, making our coffee, doing all the things that we do.
02:44:17.000You strip all that away into just the law of nature.