The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2077 - Tim Dillon

00:00:11.000 And we're up.

00:00:12.000 Let's go, Tim Dillon.

00:00:14.000 How are you, sir?

00:00:14.000 I'm good now, looking at that coach.

00:00:16.000 Thank you for having me.

00:00:17.000 It's Raccoon.

00:00:19.000 I went to a furrier in New York and two little old Jewish guys, and they go, we don't have anything in your size, like sable or chinchilla or any of the high end.

00:00:31.000 But then one of the little guys goes, we may have a raccoon in the back.

00:00:40.000 And he came out with this, and this is a raccoon, but he was explaining it's from Finland.

00:00:46.000 Like, these raccoons are Finnish. 0.98

00:00:49.000 Is that the actual color of their fur, or did they dye that?

00:00:53.000 It's almost like a grizzly hair.

00:00:56.000 I think the raccoons in Finland have different colors, perhaps.

00:01:01.000 Let's Google that.

00:01:02.000 What does a raccoon look like in Finland?

00:01:04.000 Is that a different animal?

00:01:07.000 What do they call them?

00:01:08.000 They call them dumpster dogs or something like that? 0.99

00:01:10.000 Trash pandas. 0.98

00:01:11.000 Trash pandas, that's it. 0.99

00:01:12.000 You know? 0.96

00:01:13.000 And listen, I like a raccoon too, but I also like fur.

00:01:17.000 I think people should be allowed to wear fur.

00:01:19.000 Well, it is weird that you're allowed to kill animals and eat them.

00:01:22.000 Why do they call it a raccoon dog?

00:01:24.000 Oh, so it is kind of similar to the code I have.

00:01:29.000 I typed in fill in raccoon and it just keeps saying raccoon dog.

00:01:33.000 Raccoon dog.

00:01:34.000 See, in Finland they seem to be more tan.

00:01:37.000 Yeah, that looks like your coat.

00:01:39.000 Yeah.

00:01:39.000 That doesn't look like a raccoon.

00:01:41.000 Like, if I saw that, I wouldn't say that's a raccoon.

00:01:43.000 I'd be like, what is that?

00:01:44.000 Yeah, I don't know what it is.

00:01:45.000 It's kind of got a raccoon-y face.

00:01:48.000 Like, scroll back up to those images.

00:01:50.000 Like, that picture up there, that's a raccoon-y face.

00:01:52.000 This cute creature.

00:01:54.000 That's a raccoon-y face.

00:01:55.000 But the color of it, I'd be like, what is that?

00:01:58.000 That one looks a little weird.

00:01:59.000 That's weird.

00:02:00.000 Yeah.

00:02:01.000 So they call him a raccoon dog?

00:02:03.000 I just typed in.

00:02:05.000 Bro, you got a dog coat on.

00:02:07.000 That's rough.

00:02:08.000 I knew it.

00:02:09.000 I think I got taken advantage of.

00:02:15.000 This was it.

00:02:16.000 They kind of looked at each other a few times.

00:02:19.000 And this one didn't even have the liner in.

00:02:21.000 They put the liner in.

00:02:23.000 It's a very cheap liner.

00:02:25.000 They put the liner in.

00:02:26.000 I just went in because I was curious about...

00:02:29.000 I don't understand it.

00:02:31.000 I get curious about different things.

00:02:32.000 So these furriers in New York City, a lot of them will kick you out. 0.99

00:02:36.000 If you don't have an appointment.

00:02:37.000 So one of them just said, we can't deal with you.

00:02:40.000 If you don't have an appointment, go.

00:02:42.000 But then these two guys were nice enough to talk to me a little bit and I was just asking questions.

00:02:46.000 I'm like, what's the deal?

00:02:48.000 They're like, well, Sable is like the top thing.

00:02:51.000 And then they're like, obviously Mink and Chinchilla and Fox.

00:02:55.000 Could they make you a custom one?

00:02:57.000 Of course.

00:02:58.000 So you'd have to order it.

00:02:59.000 They could absolutely make a custom one, but I wanted something fun to come on here with.

00:03:04.000 So I said, I don't really even want one of these.

00:03:07.000 So I just want to do like an impulse buy.

00:03:09.000 Just give me something to buy.

00:03:10.000 I don't want to think about this.

00:03:12.000 And you got the raccoon.

00:03:12.000 And then the guy goes, we have a raccoon.

00:03:14.000 I don't know what it is.

00:03:15.000 It could be a costume.

00:03:18.000 That might have been what the Patterson guy wore in the Bigfoot footage.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, I have no idea what it is, but it is a fun, and it's got that hood.

00:03:26.000 It's got a hood like if you were a rapper.

00:03:30.000 Or something like this.

00:03:31.000 Do you know Bill Blumenwright from Boston?

00:03:34.000 Of course.

00:03:35.000 Yeah.

00:03:36.000 Bill had a mink coat once.

00:03:38.000 Yeah.

00:03:39.000 And he let me try it on.

00:03:40.000 I'm like, let me try that on.

00:03:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:41.000 And I was like, oh my god, it's so warm.

00:03:43.000 It's amazing.

00:03:44.000 There's a reason why people like them.

00:03:45.000 But people get real mad.

00:03:47.000 Oh yeah, they don't like it.

00:03:48.000 But it's also weird, like...

00:03:51.000 You're allowed to wear leather.

00:03:52.000 Right.

00:03:53.000 Like, what is leather?

00:03:54.000 Leather is everywhere.

00:03:56.000 Everybody wears leather.

00:03:57.000 It's in cars.

00:03:58.000 Leather is just the fur removed.

00:04:00.000 That's all it is.

00:04:01.000 Right.

00:04:02.000 Crocodile scales.

00:04:03.000 There's a company called Origin, and one of the elk that I shot, we took the hide and had the hide shipped to them, and they're gonna turn it into boots.

00:04:13.000 It's good use of leather.

00:04:14.000 Of course.

00:04:15.000 But that's normal.

00:04:16.000 Nobody gets freaked out if they see you with leather boots on.

00:04:18.000 Well, wasn't this the entire...

00:04:20.000 I mean, you know more than me, but the Native Americans who respected the animals and the environment, it was all about utilizing every part of the animal.

00:04:33.000 Yeah, they used everything they could.

00:04:35.000 And they lived in harmony with them.

00:04:38.000 Especially...

00:04:40.000 Some of these Native American tribes had these relationships where they were migratory with the animals.

00:04:45.000 Right.

00:04:46.000 Like Buffalo and the Comanche. 1.00

00:04:48.000 They followed them around, man.

00:04:50.000 And they used all their blankets, all sorts of things.

00:04:55.000 Yeah.

00:04:55.000 Their teepees, everything.

00:04:56.000 So to me, I don't understand where it became so controversial.

00:05:04.000 Because it's...

00:05:05.000 Really rich people flaunting that they can go have someone murder a mink for them. 0.99

00:05:11.000 Right.

00:05:11.000 You're wearing this thing and you've got all these diamonds and you're walking and fabulous.

00:05:17.000 It's imbalanced. 0.97

00:05:19.000 Right.

00:05:19.000 It's grossly imbalanced.

00:05:21.000 To a degree.

00:05:22.000 You're a rapper with like hundreds in your hands.

00:05:24.000 You're throwing them out to the ground.

00:05:25.000 Sure, but somehow I look balanced with nature in this in an odd way.

00:05:29.000 I don't, you know.

00:05:30.000 I don't even feel like I look rich in this.

00:05:32.000 I look a little crazy.

00:05:33.000 I look like a guy on the brink of something and not a good thing.

00:05:38.000 It depends on what you like.

00:05:41.000 That's a fun guy.

00:05:44.000 My initial reaction when I saw you, I was like, this is awesome.

00:05:47.000 It's interesting because it does seem to me, I understand that people are morally against it, but when you start like I don't know, throwing paint on people, right?

00:05:59.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:05:59.000 Red paint.

00:06:00.000 I was in Beverly Hills once.

00:06:02.000 They had like outside of a store, they were like chanting and they were trying to intimidate people walking in the store. 0.67

00:06:08.000 It just feels silly.

00:06:09.000 I had a girl tell me once, she was upset at the comedy store, that I had fur, I had a hoodie with fur around the edges of it.

00:06:17.000 And she just like out of nowhere.

00:06:19.000 I wasn't even talking to her.

00:06:21.000 She's like, something shitty about the fur.

00:06:23.000 I go, it's fake.

00:06:25.000 I go, it's fake fur. 1.00

00:06:27.000 It's a fucking hoodie. 0.99

00:06:28.000 And she goes, I don't like what it represents. 1.00

00:06:31.000 What is wrong with these people?

00:06:36.000 This was a long time ago, by the way.

00:06:38.000 This is not like famous me.

00:06:39.000 But I was like, this is such a crazy conversation.

00:06:42.000 Like, it's fake fur.

00:06:43.000 I don't understand.

00:06:45.000 I understand people that are ethical vegans who say, I don't want...

00:06:50.000 Any type of animal product ever?

00:06:55.000 Okay.

00:06:57.000 I disagree with that, and I think a lot of people on Earth would disagree with that.

00:07:01.000 I think the human race would starve pretty quickly if we couldn't eat any animal product.

00:07:08.000 Yeah, that wouldn't work out well.

00:07:10.000 It is also very complicated because the relationship that we used to have with animals, like the animal relationship that you're talking about with the Native Americans, where they had this tribal relationship where they followed these herds around and hunted them expertly.

00:07:26.000 That is so different than going to Jack in the Box.

00:07:29.000 That's true.

00:07:30.000 And that's what most of what our meat is coming from, this weird subversion of like the natural way of getting food.

00:07:38.000 The factory farming. 0.99

00:07:39.000 There's never been a time ever where in human history where people have stuffed so many fucking animals into warehouses and just beheaded them. 0.98

00:07:48.000 But because our population has never been greater. 0.99

00:07:51.000 Right.

00:07:52.000 It's never been bigger.

00:07:53.000 We've never had more of a burden to feed people.

00:07:56.000 Right.

00:07:56.000 And it's unfortunate the way that it happens.

00:07:59.000 I mean, we've all seen the footage of the chickens that don't get to walk around.

00:08:06.000 That's not good.

00:08:07.000 Not good.

00:08:08.000 Also, I think that up until fairly recently, like fairly recently, like within the last couple hundred years, it was unheard of to not grow your own food.

00:08:21.000 Right.

00:08:21.000 I think everybody sort of knew that you had to grow some of your own food or hunt some of your own food.

00:08:27.000 Well, that's so hard now because how do you do that in Arizona?

00:08:31.000 You don't.

00:08:31.000 Right?

00:08:32.000 Like if you live in the desert.

00:08:34.000 What kind of water rights do you have?

00:08:35.000 Right?

00:08:35.000 Or if you're in Minnesota and it's freezing.

00:08:38.000 Right.

00:08:39.000 So it's just, it becomes difficult to live that, I'm sure that's the ideal way to live.

00:08:44.000 But the modern world, it's very hard.

00:08:48.000 People don't have any time.

00:08:49.000 No.

00:08:50.000 You know?

00:08:50.000 No, it's hard.

00:08:51.000 And, you know, imagine what it was like before they had trucks.

00:08:55.000 Imagine, like, living in Manhattan in January in 1700, and you can't get an apple.

00:09:01.000 It's insane.

00:09:02.000 Like, there's no fruit.

00:09:03.000 You're not getting any fruit.

00:09:04.000 You're not getting any vegetables.

00:09:05.000 Well, what's funny is, like, there's a show on HBO called The Gilded Age, and it's about all these really, you know, like, the robber barons, like the industrialists.

00:09:12.000 And, like, they all had these massive staffs.

00:09:15.000 Of people that would just make them dinners every night.

00:09:18.000 It was crazy.

00:09:20.000 They had entire staffs of usually Irish chefs and cooks and waiters and everything just to facilitate the meal, the daily meal.

00:09:32.000 It was very royal and regal and they would have people just there cooking for them and Making their food.

00:09:40.000 It's interesting to watch.

00:09:42.000 The haves and the have-nots back then.

00:09:44.000 Back then it was wild.

00:09:46.000 People say it's wild now, and it is wild now, because a lot of the haves now can take a spaceship and take a blunt drive around the globe.

00:09:55.000 That's wild.

00:09:56.000 How much carbon does that burn off into the atmosphere?

00:09:59.000 I don't know.

00:10:00.000 I mean, if you want to talk about some of the most ridiculous excesses of carbon use...

00:10:06.000 Yeah, it's shooting rich people into orbit. 0.59

00:10:09.000 That's so nuts.

00:10:10.000 That must be so much gas.

00:10:11.000 It's so nuts.

00:10:13.000 But like anything else, right, they'll say, well, it's good for, I guess, the...

00:10:20.000 It incentivizes people to care about space exploration.

00:10:23.000 Right.

00:10:24.000 Because they're going to pay a lot of money to go up there, and that money's going to get utilized to discover more things.

00:10:30.000 You know, who knows if that's...

00:10:33.000 It's a weird argument.

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 Because, like, I feel like... 0.98

00:10:37.000 I mean, look, I'm happy that they're exploring space, but I feel like maybe someone should sit down and go, until you guys figure out a better way to get off the fucking ground. 0.98

00:10:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:10:45.000 Let's just chill. 0.98

00:10:47.000 How are we saying no one should burn carbon fuel?

00:10:50.000 How are we saying that you can't have gas-powered cars in California after 2035?

00:10:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:56.000 How are we saying that while we're shooting off these giant fucking metal tubes of... 0.99

00:11:01.000 Jet fuel. 0.99

00:11:04.000 It's literally burning in the sky.

00:11:06.000 I think that's the reward when you have a billion dollars.

00:11:10.000 You want to think you can leave.

00:11:15.000 That seems to be the reward.

00:11:17.000 It's these guys going like, we don't have it quite figured out yet, but they're like, God, it might be nice if I could leave.

00:11:23.000 Oh my god, it would be hell.

00:11:25.000 You know?

00:11:25.000 It would be tough.

00:11:26.000 It would be so stupid. 1.00

00:11:27.000 The first person that leaves... 1.00

00:11:29.000 They're gonna fall into...

00:11:30.000 There's a trap.

00:11:31.000 And here's the trap.

00:11:32.000 Just because something's hard to do, doesn't mean it's good to do.

00:11:35.000 Right.

00:11:36.000 And you could say, it's gonna be so difficult for us to get to Mars.

00:11:40.000 Right.

00:11:41.000 Also, so difficult for someone to fucking save you. 0.98

00:11:44.000 For a reason. 0.98

00:11:45.000 Yeah.

00:11:45.000 That's not a good place to go.

00:11:47.000 No. 0.99

00:11:47.000 We have spots in Earth that suck. 0.99

00:11:51.000 Go visit those so they can get you out by helicopter if you're lucky.

00:11:55.000 These people want, I think there's that fantasy of like seeding other planets with biological DNA, carrying on the human race, the idea that the earth might be past a tipping point, maybe. 0.98

00:12:10.000 I think we have to realize that time does not give a fuck. 0.97

00:12:16.000 About the human race. 0.99

00:12:18.000 Time doesn't care.

00:12:20.000 If we got hit by an asteroid and this whole planet got knocked back down into the Jurassic period again, that totally could happen.

00:12:29.000 It's happened before.

00:12:30.000 It's the reason why we're here in the first place, supposedly, right?

00:12:34.000 The Yucatan impact.

00:12:36.000 If that happens again, time doesn't care.

00:12:40.000 Time doesn't care.

00:12:41.000 We care.

00:12:41.000 Can we do anything to the asteroid now that we're more advanced?

00:12:45.000 They are slowly but surely being able to recognize where they...

00:12:49.000 The real problem, supposedly, I believe, is ones that come from too near the sun.

00:12:55.000 The problem is the gravity of the Sun.

00:12:58.000 I'm sure I'm fucking this up.

00:12:59.000 I'm sorry.

00:13:00.000 I think the gravity of the Sun, the mass of the Sun is so immense that it's difficult to see objects that are behind it coming towards us.

00:13:09.000 So if something's passing the Sun and going towards us, we might not see it until it's too late to do anything about it.

00:13:16.000 And then even if we do see it, there's only a few different methods that they've devised that seem to like...

00:13:22.000 One of them is you like hit it with a surface.

00:13:25.000 Like, something lands on it.

00:13:27.000 And this changing of the aerodynamics of it, like, changes its trajectory in some way.

00:13:35.000 And another one is breaking it up.

00:13:37.000 The breaking it up one scares people, though, because they're like, well, what if you break it up into many pieces that just go to a bunch of different spots on Earth, and it has the same impact, just not in one spot.

00:13:48.000 Right.

00:13:49.000 Like, you might actually, maybe it would have landed in the ocean, and most people would survive.

00:13:54.000 It's amazing that nothing we haven't had a...

00:13:59.000 You might know more than I do, but we haven't had a really destructive asteroid impact in a long time.

00:14:07.000 It's a timeline thing, dude.

00:14:09.000 Right.

00:14:09.000 Our timeline is our lifetime, and it's so long for a person, and it's so nothing for space.

00:14:16.000 Right.

00:14:17.000 It's so nothing.

00:14:18.000 It literally is nothing.

00:14:20.000 Right.

00:14:20.000 Our timeline is 100 years for a human timeline.

00:14:23.000 The Earth is 4 point whatever billion years old.

00:14:27.000 The universe...

00:14:28.000 There's all these arguments now.

00:14:29.000 The universe is even older than 13.7 billion years ago.

00:14:32.000 I'm not really smart enough to understand it.

00:14:34.000 It's something about the forming of the galaxies.

00:14:36.000 Like, they seem to form quicker.

00:14:37.000 That wouldn't be possible if the universe was only 13.7 billion years.

00:14:42.000 But Brian Keating doesn't agree with it, so maybe he's right. 0.89

00:14:45.000 I don't know who's right.

00:14:46.000 But it's either way.

00:14:49.000 We're a hundred years of nothing.

00:14:51.000 It's so quick.

00:14:52.000 And if we get hit with an asteroid and then everything starts and it's another 65 million years from now until a new form of intelligent life arises, the universe doesn't care about that.

00:15:04.000 No, right.

00:15:05.000 Me saying we haven't had a significant impact is like when your 13-year-old starts talking about Israel and Palestine.

00:15:14.000 I sound ridiculous because it's literally, I've been on the planet 38 years and I'm like, we haven't had anything.

00:15:22.000 As you get older, you get old enough to realize this hustle. 0.82

00:15:27.000 Oh, this is a hustle.

00:15:29.000 You're pretending like you can do something.

00:15:31.000 You're pretending like you're gonna make a life and leave a mark.

00:15:35.000 You're just moving.

00:15:37.000 And you're gonna be gone, and new people are gonna move into that, and everyone's affecting everybody, and we're all working towards some weird goal.

00:15:46.000 And some of it involves rockets and computers, and we're just building wilder and wilder technology.

00:15:54.000 I don't know if we can escape before something hits.

00:15:57.000 And I have a feeling that's what's happened many times in the past.

00:16:00.000 I think that's the biggest key to the mystery of people.

00:16:04.000 And you think that we may have gotten to this point.

00:16:06.000 I think we definitely did. 0.75

00:16:07.000 Where people were podcasting in ridiculous coats.

00:16:10.000 Yes.

00:16:10.000 And then something comes and ruins it.

00:16:12.000 Yeah.

00:16:13.000 And then it takes billions of years to get back to that.

00:16:16.000 Millions.

00:16:17.000 Millions to get back to that.

00:16:19.000 Not really millions.

00:16:19.000 I think probably whatever the Egyptians were doing I think they were the most advanced civilization that ever existed.

00:16:27.000 That's what I think.

00:16:29.000 I mean, I'm out of line here for sure.

00:16:32.000 Listen, if you're an archaeologist and you're pulling your hair out, I get it.

00:16:36.000 But I don't think we could do what they did.

00:16:38.000 I think if we just look at it for just the sheer dynamics, the volume of stone that they moved, the precision in which they built it, I really don't think we can do that.

00:16:50.000 Just the symmetry of the faces of the statues is unparalleled and they're immense.

00:16:58.000 These are monstrously huge, perfectly symmetrical faces.

00:17:04.000 Their temples are insanely intricate with 20-ton gigantic stone blocks that were taken from a mountain 500 miles away. 0.98

00:17:17.000 No one has any idea how the fuck they got them. 0.89

00:17:19.000 Nobody has any clue. 0.89

00:17:20.000 No guesses.

00:17:21.000 Right.

00:17:21.000 There's some guesses about, oh, maybe the river system was different back then.

00:17:24.000 Whatever.

00:17:25.000 Right. 0.99

00:17:27.000 50-ton chunk of granite out of a fucking mountain and moving it down even with modern equipment. 0.99

00:17:33.000 How are you getting it over the mountain? 0.99

00:17:34.000 So it seems like they were incredibly advanced.

00:17:39.000 Incredibly advanced.

00:17:40.000 With math, with science, with technology.

00:17:43.000 Certainly with geometry.

00:17:45.000 They also had an understanding of the cosmos.

00:17:48.000 They definitely had an understanding of the constellations.

00:17:52.000 And that's one of the reasons why the fringe theory is that the Sphinx is way older than what they have it currently dated at was like 2500 BC, which is still crazy old, right?

00:18:05.000 Right.

00:18:05.000 But what they think is it's probably older than that, maybe even 10,000 or 30,000 years old.

00:18:11.000 And that at these times in Whenever the calendar is aligned properly, whatever the year is, it's like exactly where a lion would be staring the constellation Leo.

00:18:25.000 That's mind-blowing.

00:18:26.000 Mind-blowing.

00:18:27.000 To think about that stuff.

00:18:28.000 I don't know if that's true, though.

00:18:29.000 That's a weird one.

00:18:30.000 It's like, how do we know if...

00:18:32.000 From the burning of the Library of Alexandria, we lost so much of an understanding of what the Egyptians knew and what they recorded.

00:18:39.000 So there's a lot of weird speculation amongst Egyptologists.

00:18:43.000 They look at the old...

00:18:45.000 They have hieroglyphs that show kings that go back 40,000 years.

00:18:49.000 Right.

00:18:50.000 And they look at that as myth.

00:18:53.000 So it gets to a certain time when they decide, okay, now this is really, this is Tutankhamen, this is Ramses, this is the kings.

00:19:00.000 Are we talking about biblical times or even we're predating that?

00:19:05.000 So we're really predating the biblical times.

00:19:08.000 If they're correct, if these hieroglyphs are real, instead of like saying that they're myth because they're talking about kings that ruled the earth 40,000 years ago when we decided that those people back then were primitive.

00:19:21.000 But if they're right, and if it only existed in a few places on Earth, would that make sense?

00:19:25.000 Right.

00:19:26.000 That's how it is now.

00:19:27.000 Right now, you can go to the Amazon, you see people living like they lived thousands of years ago.

00:19:31.000 Right.

00:19:31.000 And then you can see someone here get hit by a car because they're looking at their phone.

00:19:34.000 That's right.

00:19:34.000 You know, it's like they're both existing at the same time.

00:19:37.000 I think that's probably always been the case with people.

00:19:39.000 There's always been people that live in Siberia, these nomadic tribal people that are very content just living the same way they've always lived. 0.99

00:19:46.000 And then there's people that live in San Francisco that have people shitting on their street and fucking shooting up in front of them and getting paid. 0.99

00:19:52.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:53.000 So it's interesting.

00:19:54.000 You've always kind of had that dichotomy of really advanced people and then really – I don't want to use the word primitive, but certainly – You know, these uncontacted tribes and things like that.

00:20:05.000 Human beings always have inequality.

00:20:07.000 Yeah, there's always that strata.

00:20:09.000 There's always something.

00:20:10.000 And it's whether it's cultural, whether it's geographical, whether you're trapped on an island, like whatever.

00:20:14.000 You're always going to find somewhere, somewhere on Earth, someone who's just way beyond...

00:20:21.000 Like what we think of as like modern society, like what's acceptable, running water.

00:20:27.000 These people have none of that.

00:20:28.000 These people, they're making their own spears.

00:20:31.000 They're hunting. 0.99

00:20:32.000 They have leaves on their dicks. 1.00

00:20:33.000 They're killing animals out of necessity. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Out of necessity.

00:20:37.000 Because those animals might kill them.

00:20:39.000 Yeah.

00:20:39.000 They know what leaves to take.

00:20:41.000 Have you ever seen those people?

00:20:42.000 I think the Waranami, is that what they're called?

00:20:45.000 In Guyana.

00:20:46.000 They throw poison in the water.

00:20:49.000 Have you gone to Machu Picchu or Brazil or the Amazon or anything?

00:20:55.000 The only places that I've been to that are really...

00:20:57.000 I just got back from Greece.

00:20:58.000 We did Greece.

00:20:59.000 That was amazing.

00:21:01.000 That's amazing, but you're talking like 2,500 years old.

00:21:06.000 It's like a child compared to the pyramids.

00:21:09.000 Yeah, it's really amazing antiquity and how old things are.

00:21:14.000 And then where...

00:21:16.000 Where the line is between what is myth and what is history and trying to figure that out, which is very hard.

00:21:24.000 I think that even the stuff that we think of as like the cradle of wisdom, like what happened in Greece when they were building the Acropolis and the Parthenon and where democracy came from, I think that It's like a rebuilding of civilization.

00:21:42.000 That's what I think. 0.93

00:21:43.000 And I think if you can go back in a time machine, I bet if you could get to Egypt 25,000 years ago, I bet you'd be fucking blown away. 0.92

00:21:53.000 I bet they had some very bizarre, technologically advanced society that had a different path they went down.

00:22:01.000 So we went down the path of engines and computers.

00:22:05.000 But that doesn't mean that's the only way to invent technology.

00:22:08.000 That's just the path that we've been on.

00:22:10.000 If they had figured out some other stuff, if they had hundreds of thousands of years of time to really evolve and become modern humans, which is what we think now.

00:22:23.000 They used to think that people were only around for like 50,000 years, like anatomically modern humans.

00:22:27.000 But now they pushed it back to like 200,000 years ago, 300. It keeps going back further and further and further.

00:22:32.000 So people really did live that long.

00:22:36.000 Think about how quick we went from like 1800 To 2023. Yeah.

00:22:44.000 Insane.

00:22:45.000 It's quick. 1.00

00:22:45.000 But the difference in riding around on a fucking wagon being dragged by an animal or some stupid boat you had to take across the Atlantic. 1.00

00:22:54.000 Right. 1.00

00:22:55.000 No one had any idea where the icebergs were.

00:22:57.000 Yeah.

00:22:57.000 To now existing, you know, primarily in like...

00:23:02.000 Half in and half out of a completely digital universe.

00:23:05.000 Yes.

00:23:06.000 Half in, half out, connected constantly to your phone.

00:23:09.000 And every book, like I'm reading a book now called The Dimensions of a Cave, and it's basically about what will things look like when we are more fully on that digital platform?

00:23:19.000 Like what constitutes a crime in the digital world?

00:23:23.000 What does war look like?

00:23:25.000 When everything's digital.

00:23:27.000 What happens if something like Grand Theft Auto, if people get prosecuted for beating people up with pipes?

00:23:32.000 There's weird ethical questions about when we're living a lot of our lives on these digital platforms.

00:23:41.000 What is a crime?

00:23:43.000 What is surveillance when everything's surveillance?

00:23:46.000 What are, you know, what are the laws?

00:23:49.000 What are the rules?

00:23:50.000 What are the consequences for breaking them?

00:23:52.000 Can you be cast out of that?

00:23:54.000 You know, just like the way we debate social media.

00:23:56.000 Now imagine it's even more immersive than social media.

00:24:00.000 It's augmented reality, virtual reality, some form of metaverse, whatever it is.

00:24:06.000 Can we, do we cast you out where you can't participate in this thing that everybody else is participating in?

00:24:14.000 And these are interesting questions because people are saying that we'll probably get there quicker than we think.

00:24:20.000 In the space of maybe 10 years or something, they're looking at these programs and platforms and going, oh, there's going to be a lot.

00:24:31.000 That's why the AI battle that they had with Hollywood, it seems ultimately a losing battle.

00:24:37.000 Right.

00:24:38.000 Which is, you know, not something that I love, but ultimately it seems like, look at the trailer for the new GTA. It's pretty amazing.

00:24:46.000 Amazing.

00:24:46.000 Imagine that even better, you know, it seems like there is going to be a time when we're watching a show of all AI people and enjoying it.

00:25:00.000 And that's just what it is.

00:25:01.000 And maybe we're even feeling like we're involved or immersed in it.

00:25:06.000 Yeah.

00:25:06.000 Maybe we're sitting there watching a guy get shot or ran over or watching a hooker get killed.

00:25:12.000 I don't know.

00:25:12.000 But, you know, it's very possible we could be in the thing.

00:25:18.000 Yeah.

00:25:18.000 I mean, there's people now talking about like...

00:25:21.000 What's this, Jamie?

00:25:22.000 This showed up on Twitter recently.

00:25:24.000 It's all fake news, a 25-minute news broadcast.

00:25:28.000 It's fake?

00:25:29.000 She's even saying it.

00:25:30.000 It's all generated by AI. Yeah, so no one's gonna know what's real anymore.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, hold on, let me listen to what they're saying here.

00:25:56.000 Wait, is that a real dude?

00:26:00.000 No.

00:26:01.000 No way!

00:26:02.000 It may be at one point it was, but this is AI-generated movement, talking, blinking, all that.

00:26:08.000 Oh my god.

00:26:12.000 I say maybe...

00:26:13.000 Personalized news?

00:26:14.000 This is so dystopian.

00:26:15.000 Maybe do AI news, though, because the reality is most people can't do much about the news anyway.

00:26:23.000 Right.

00:26:23.000 So AI news, where you just kind of make up stories, might be the future.

00:26:30.000 Or you might heavily censor what you want, and people could choose their own news.

00:26:38.000 People are kind of doing that already.

00:26:40.000 They're kind of doing that already.

00:26:40.000 They choose their own news.

00:26:41.000 My aunt chooses her news.

00:26:43.000 In her news, Donald Trump has been running the government.

00:26:47.000 For the last four years.

00:26:49.000 He speaks to the generals directly.

00:26:52.000 Biden has been dead for a while, which, by the way, that's harder and harder to argue with her about.

00:26:58.000 And in her news, Donald Trump will then come back to the throne.

00:27:04.000 But he's still running anything that she goes, anything she tells us Thanksgiving, because anything that can happen with China, Russia, Trump's doing the negotiation, not Biden.

00:27:13.000 Have you seen the Biden ear conspiracy?

00:27:17.000 No.

00:27:18.000 The earlobe conspiracy? 0.64

00:27:19.000 But I love it.

00:27:19.000 Already I love it.

00:27:21.000 If you look at old photos of Biden, his earlobe hangs down.

00:27:26.000 As he gets older, his earlobe is connected, which is impossible.

00:27:31.000 That's odd.

00:27:32.000 It's impossible.

00:27:33.000 Your ear doesn't change its position unless you get surgery.

00:27:36.000 So what do we think?

00:27:38.000 I think he had a facelift.

00:27:39.000 Oh, definitely.

00:27:41.000 100%, right?

00:27:42.000 Definitely.

00:27:42.000 Which is, by the way, that doesn't work on guys.

00:27:45.000 Right.

00:27:46.000 No, it doesn't.

00:27:47.000 It doesn't make you look better.

00:27:48.000 It just makes you look weird.

00:27:49.000 Your face is shiny.

00:27:50.000 Putin in Russia has different doubles.

00:27:53.000 He has body doubles.

00:27:54.000 He has body doubles.

00:27:54.000 But they 100% can do that.

00:27:57.000 They can do that with makeup. 1.00

00:27:58.000 Like, I've seen videos where a person is talking...

00:28:01.000 And it just looks like some weird old man.

00:28:03.000 And they just grab their face and peel it off.

00:28:05.000 The makeup they can do is like Hollywood stuff.

00:28:08.000 Stuff like Rick Baker could do.

00:28:10.000 Sure.

00:28:11.000 They have real experts.

00:28:12.000 No, it's insane. 0.99

00:28:12.000 I did some dumb cameo in a horror movie and they made my whole head. 0.99

00:28:17.000 They just made my head. 0.99

00:28:20.000 They molded it.

00:28:21.000 It looks exactly like my head.

00:28:24.000 And they cut it off.

00:28:25.000 Yeah.

00:28:26.000 The special effects and the ability to do things like that is...

00:28:31.000 Insane.

00:28:31.000 It's insane.

00:28:32.000 And they can 3D print things now. 0.94

00:28:34.000 The technology is so good, and the materials are so good, and these artists are fucking incredible.

00:28:41.000 They can 100% make you look like a totally different person. 0.84

00:28:43.000 Oh, for sure.

00:28:44.000 And I guarantee you they employ some of those people.

00:28:47.000 Right. 0.97

00:28:47.000 Like, if you were gonna have someone, and they were like a CIA undercover person going into a terrorist organization, Wouldn't you fucking have them dressed differently? 0.97

00:28:57.000 Absolutely. 0.81

00:28:58.000 Wouldn't you give them a different face?

00:28:59.000 Absolutely.

00:29:00.000 Why wouldn't you do that?

00:29:01.000 Well, the things that they're doing at DARPA and all of these things are so far from what we...

00:29:08.000 You know, they had the internet in the 70s, right?

00:29:10.000 They had a version of it.

00:29:11.000 Did you see this new stealth bomber?

00:29:13.000 No.

00:29:14.000 Oh, my God.

00:29:14.000 I'll send this to you, Jamie.

00:29:15.000 Hold on a second.

00:29:16.000 I mean, they're doing stuff that's far beyond our conception.

00:29:19.000 Yes. 0.98

00:29:20.000 They're doing some wild shit that they're telling us about. 0.99

00:29:23.000 Right. 0.99

00:29:24.000 This is from the Drinking Bros podcast.

00:29:27.000 I'm going to send this to you, Jamie.

00:29:28.000 And this is our new stealth bomber.

00:29:31.000 Yeah, this thing's insane.

00:29:32.000 And if you're rich enough, can you rent it out?

00:29:35.000 No.

00:29:35.000 You take it up?

00:29:38.000 No.

00:29:38.000 I don't think it has humans in it.

00:29:40.000 Damn it. 0.99

00:29:41.000 I think this is one of them jammies where it's only... 1.00

00:29:44.000 But it can carry nukes.

00:29:45.000 Did I get it to you, Jamie?

00:29:47.000 You sent me a different link.

00:29:48.000 I did send you a different link.

00:29:49.000 I realized it was some Caitlyn Jenner thing.

00:29:51.000 That's what I was saying.

00:29:52.000 Caitlyn Jenner's in a stealth bomber.

00:29:53.000 Instagram is odd.

00:29:54.000 Sometimes it just changes...

00:29:56.000 She can fly.

00:29:56.000 She does fly.

00:29:58.000 Really?

00:29:58.000 Caitlyn Jenner flies.

00:29:59.000 She came to my Christmas party in LA and showed everyone her plane.

00:30:02.000 Wow.

00:30:03.000 She flies.

00:30:03.000 Every few days, she flies around.

00:30:07.000 Interesting.

00:30:08.000 That's a wild hobby.

00:30:09.000 It's an interesting life.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:30:12.000 It's an interesting one. 0.99

00:30:14.000 Don't go on your phone when you're up in the fucking sky. 0.99

00:30:16.000 I bet she is. 0.99

00:30:17.000 I bet she's on the phone.

00:30:18.000 I bet Caitlyn Jenner's in that plane on her phone, tweeting about how much she loves Donald Trump.

00:30:25.000 Because that's what she was telling everybody.

00:30:27.000 Isn't that wild?

00:30:27.000 At my party she was going, you know, she goes, nobody's patriotic anymore.

00:30:31.000 I love Trump.

00:30:32.000 And everyone's just like, great, it's fun.

00:30:35.000 She's a fun archetype of person. 0.54

00:30:37.000 Yeah.

00:30:37.000 We're at the end of...

00:30:40.000 Time.

00:30:41.000 Time. 1.00

00:30:42.000 Yeah, check this fucking thing out. 1.00

00:30:43.000 This is crazy. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Check this thing out.

00:30:46.000 This thing, it carries, I think, four nukes or six nukes?

00:30:51.000 There's an animation here.

00:30:52.000 Hold on, let me find that.

00:30:52.000 This is amazing.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:55.000 But the thing is, in that link that I sent you, put the link, because I want to play that, because he describes all the things it does in terms of jamming radar.

00:31:04.000 It's crazy what this thing does.

00:31:06.000 Was the first stealth in, like, the 80s or the 90s?

00:31:10.000 I want to say the 90s.

00:31:12.000 Does that make sense, Jamie?

00:31:13.000 It's essentially 100% radar proof.

00:31:16.000 It cannot be detected except for with your eyeballs.

00:31:18.000 This one right here? 1.00

00:31:19.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:31:20.000 It looks sexy as fuck. 1.00

00:31:21.000 But that's just the tip of the iceberg. 0.99

00:31:25.000 So it has...

00:31:25.000 It is able to analyze algorithmically the enemy's radar package.

00:31:31.000 Like how they're able to determine radar. 0.96

00:31:33.000 And then it can fucking instantaneously send that information. 0.92

00:31:38.000 Not just radar, but so it can... 0.97

00:31:43.000 Instantaneously detect the enemy's radar patterns.

00:31:47.000 It can detect all of their troop placements, their aircraft carrier placements, their submarine placements with ground-penetrating radar, and their armor placements, and immediately send a graphic of that back to every fucking other friendly force in the battle space.

00:32:09.000 Instantaneously. 0.56

00:32:10.000 One of these.

00:32:11.000 Just fly over an area, undetected, and be like, alright, beep, [... 1.00

00:32:19.000 It also can carry six fucking nukes. 0.99

00:32:22.000 This aircraft is essentially 100% radar proof. 1.00

00:32:26.000 Jesus!

00:32:27.000 Well, we need it.

00:32:28.000 How wild is that?

00:32:29.000 Well, we need it.

00:32:31.000 We're heading into perilous times, and we need something that can carry six nukes.

00:32:37.000 An invisible six-nuke drone that can detect everything instantaneously.

00:32:44.000 Yeah, but China's got it, and Russia's got it. 0.74

00:32:47.000 They have good stuff over there.

00:32:49.000 That's why we gotta have that, right?

00:32:51.000 That might be the top of the food chain.

00:32:54.000 We'll see.

00:32:55.000 Don't count out the Chinese. 0.99

00:32:57.000 I wouldn't count them out.

00:32:58.000 I wouldn't count them out.

00:33:01.000 They do a really good job of siphoning information. 1.00

00:33:04.000 Oh, they might have stolen that fucker years ago. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Corporate espionage. 1.00

00:33:10.000 They're so good at it.

00:33:12.000 Well, also, we let them in.

00:33:13.000 And we let them buy companies.

00:33:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:15.000 Which is wild.

00:33:16.000 So DeSantis, by the way, which I think this is good.

00:33:19.000 He's basically, and the real estate lobby's fighting him.

00:33:22.000 He went out in Florida.

00:33:23.000 He's like, we got to make it harder for Chinese nationals to just buy companies. 0.97

00:33:28.000 Property here, and then the real estate lobby's like, hey man, you're fucking up a good thing. 0.96

00:33:34.000 We like making money. 0.93

00:33:36.000 We like earning commission.

00:33:39.000 And China's a huge buyer of US real estate.

00:33:43.000 So all these real estate people, the Black Rocks, are coming at DeSantis and going, hey, we can't have this. 1.00

00:33:53.000 You have to let the Chinese play. 1.00

00:33:58.000 It's real weird.

00:33:59.000 You know, like, they can buy property, like, a certain amount of property here in areas that were like, hey, isn't that kind of close to a military base?

00:34:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:10.000 Isn't that close to, like, infrastructure?

00:34:13.000 Well, they bought the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, which is where the president used to stay every time he went to New York.

00:34:20.000 They bought it.

00:34:21.000 Now he stays at the New York Palace.

00:34:23.000 But it was just a fun thing to do.

00:34:24.000 They were like, oh, where does the president stay?

00:34:26.000 Let's buy that.

00:34:27.000 We're going to own that.

00:34:28.000 And they own it.

00:34:29.000 And they just flipped it to condos.

00:34:31.000 They don't care.

00:34:31.000 So the thing is, so much of these cities, Miami, New York, LA, even Austin now, a lot of this real estate investment is foreign.

00:34:40.000 People that are laundering money, washing money, hiding money.

00:34:44.000 And that's why the prices of real estate keep going up no matter what happens.

00:34:49.000 Rates go up to 8%.

00:34:50.000 It's still more money.

00:34:52.000 A friend of mine was telling me about this apartment building he lives in in Manhattan.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:56.000 It's just filled with empty apartments.

00:34:59.000 Oh! 0.60

00:34:59.000 Like super expensive, empty apartments, and it's just like Russian billionaires buy them up. 0.60

00:35:05.000 It's just Russian fertilizer magnets and Chinese amusement park tycoons. 0.84

00:35:10.000 Just weird configurations of humanity.

00:35:13.000 I wonder what percentage of those giant luxury apartments that are purchased are unoccupied.

00:35:19.000 Tons of them.

00:35:20.000 That's wild, right?

00:35:21.000 Tons of them are.

00:35:22.000 And people just stash money there in case the government in their country decides to get cute.

00:35:29.000 Right.

00:35:30.000 And I love some of that, by the way.

00:35:32.000 And that's what happens.

00:35:34.000 So when you walk around New York City, you look at all these buildings, right?

00:35:38.000 And here's what you see.

00:35:39.000 Cheers.

00:35:40.000 You'll see three lights on.

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 You'll see three lights on in this massive billion dollar building.

00:35:48.000 Cost of construction was a billion dollar.

00:35:51.000 And there's five people home.

00:35:53.000 Where's everybody else?

00:35:56.000 Where are they?

00:35:57.000 Are they at dinner?

00:35:58.000 No, it was a scam.

00:36:00.000 It's a vertical money laundering scheme.

00:36:02.000 When I understood, because I was a tour guide in New York and I used to ask all these questions all the time, I go, so what happens?

00:36:09.000 Did the Chinese people come here and they go, well, we love Central Park. 0.99

00:36:13.000 And they want to live there, and they go, yeah, but they spend maybe a few weeks a year.

00:36:19.000 That's it.

00:36:20.000 Some of them spend nothing.

00:36:22.000 And a lot of foreign buyers will not just buy one apartment.

00:36:26.000 They'll buy 10. Jeez.

00:36:29.000 And they'll just stash their money.

00:36:30.000 They'll have a floor of a building.

00:36:32.000 Maybe they'll throw a kid in at NYU and go, you go become non-binary and disgrace us. 1.00

00:36:39.000 I'm going to stay home and run a business.

00:36:41.000 You go to New York, become non-binary, have your moment, have your time, and we're going to sit back in China and chill. 1.00

00:36:48.000 But a lot of times these things are completely empty.

00:36:52.000 It's criminal criminality.

00:36:54.000 It's wild that it's a good method to move money around, though.

00:36:59.000 It's really smart.

00:37:00.000 Oh, it's really smart.

00:37:01.000 And it's great because real estate is perfect to launder money.

00:37:05.000 You can buy it with a shell corp.

00:37:07.000 You don't have to buy it under your name.

00:37:09.000 You can buy it under that.

00:37:10.000 And by the way, you can disguise that Shell Corp with a hundred other Shell Corps so that nobody's going to go through. 0.72

00:37:17.000 It's like a pad where they'd have to keep flipping pages to find the actual owner of the actual company.

00:37:24.000 Well, wasn't this part of the problem with the Ukraine stuff?

00:37:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:30.000 That was part of the problem.

00:37:31.000 I don't know what you mean, but I am agreeing.

00:37:33.000 No, but Hunter Biden, yeah.

00:37:34.000 And the family.

00:37:35.000 There was a bunch of shell corps that were involved in that.

00:37:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:39.000 Well, Hunter Biden's an attorney, number one, and he did some financial investments, but he certainly had a very healthy budget for fun.

00:37:49.000 And now he had a budget for extracurricular activities.

00:37:55.000 And where does that come from?

00:37:56.000 It's a slush fund that comes from a lot of shady dealings.

00:38:01.000 This guy had no expertise in energy.

00:38:03.000 He was working at, he's a consultant for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company.

00:38:08.000 And now we've given the Ukraine, I don't know what it is.

00:38:12.000 It's an insane amount of money.

00:38:14.000 I think the last count was, is it $170 billion?

00:38:20.000 How much money have we given to Ukraine?

00:38:22.000 And it's just interesting that that's the country that our president's son was having his little internship.

00:38:28.000 It's just a coincidence, dude.

00:38:29.000 I know.

00:38:30.000 Sometimes coincidences happen.

00:38:32.000 But it's...

00:38:33.000 No, we can't...

00:38:33.000 You know what it is?

00:38:34.000 It's like...

00:38:35.000 I watched the most...

00:38:37.000 The worst people in the world.

00:38:39.000 The people at Beverly Hills who like scream at valets and yell at their nannies.

00:38:43.000 And they're not...

00:38:45.000 Humanitarians.

00:38:46.000 Overnight they allowed Ukrainian flags.

00:38:49.000 It was interesting.

00:38:50.000 They don't care about Darfur, the Sudan, anything going on in Africa.

00:38:54.000 They don't care about any of the problems happening in countries like Yemen, but they all immediately decided, almost overnight, That the only humanitarian crisis worth caring about was the Ukraine.

00:39:07.000 Well, when baseball season's over, you start paying attention to football.

00:39:12.000 That's what it is.

00:39:13.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:39:15.000 That's what it is. 0.97

00:39:15.000 It's sports for dorks. 0.97

00:39:17.000 Just how much aid has the U.S. sent to Ukraine?

00:39:20.000 Total $75.4 billion.

00:39:23.000 I think there's more.

00:39:24.000 I think that's more.

00:39:25.000 I would say more too, but this is...

00:39:27.000 And you know how much of this aid disappears?

00:39:29.000 First of all, isn't it funny that we're saying 75 billion?

00:39:32.000 I think it's more.

00:39:33.000 Like, that's a low number.

00:39:34.000 But how much of this aid disappears off the backs of trucks?

00:39:38.000 Oh, it's 113 billion?

00:39:40.000 I don't know.

00:39:40.000 That's his past, present.

00:39:41.000 And by the way, you could start looking into how much of it has just evaporated.

00:39:44.000 How much of that money's disappeared?

00:39:46.000 Where it went?

00:39:47.000 Well, there was this one story about this one guy who had pilfered off a billion dollars, and they didn't even arrest him.

00:39:53.000 They just made him resign.

00:39:55.000 Yeah.

00:39:55.000 And I was like, what is that story about?

00:39:57.000 I read the headline, I was like, I'm gonna get to that eventually.

00:40:00.000 Right.

00:40:00.000 Did you see that story, Jamie?

00:40:03.000 Whenever you're dispersing money in a war, it's always strange because you have to pay people off.

00:40:08.000 It's a perfect place for things to disappear, money-wise.

00:40:12.000 One of my favorite moments during all this was the New York Times going after Candace Owens.

00:40:18.000 Oh, sure.

00:40:19.000 Did you see that?

00:40:19.000 For what they had reported.

00:40:21.000 They said to her, what evidence do you have that Ukraine is corrupt? 1.00

00:40:27.000 And she said, your fucking newspaper. 1.00

00:40:29.000 From just a couple of years ago. 1.00

00:40:33.000 It was like 2017 or 18 or something like that?

00:40:35.000 There was a million Vice documentaries about how Ukraine was the home of white nationalism.

00:40:40.000 The thing we were all, you know, supposedly, this was the greatest threat to human civilization, and we were told that every single day.

00:40:49.000 This country, the Ukraine, was a white nationalist country that had lots of these groups that fomented Right.

00:41:02.000 Right.

00:41:03.000 Right.

00:41:07.000 Became, went out the window.

00:41:09.000 Do you remember when?

00:41:10.000 Right out the window.

00:41:11.000 Who was it?

00:41:11.000 Was it Jon Stewart that gave that dude the award?

00:41:13.000 He gave him a medal.

00:41:15.000 Yeah.

00:41:15.000 And I'm sure Stewart doesn't even know.

00:41:17.000 It's like, this guy's a hero.

00:41:19.000 You pin something on him.

00:41:21.000 But they are, listen, they're avowed neo-Nazis in that country.

00:41:26.000 They have SS tattoos.

00:41:28.000 This is not a conspiracy theory.

00:41:30.000 It's not everybody.

00:41:32.000 But that Azov Battalion is... 0.59

00:41:34.000 A huge force, you know?

00:41:38.000 That's so wild.

00:41:39.000 It's wild.

00:41:40.000 And it's one of the reasons people think Zelensky, who's going to sign those Minsk Accords and end this little Civil War issue they had going on in the northern province in Dunbar, he didn't sign any of that.

00:41:52.000 People think... 0.76

00:41:54.000 And people have, you know, pontificated that either those hardliners in the Ukrainian government or military go, you sign this, we'll kill you.

00:42:02.000 Or the U.S. State Department was like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:42:08.000 You don't sign this.

00:42:10.000 You keep doing what you're doing.

00:42:11.000 And if there is a war, we have your back.

00:42:15.000 And this is this has been this is a well-known fact that everybody wanted some type of agreement early before there was a war with these northern Russian speaking regions and the government of Ukraine so that there was autonomy to a certain degree that they could speak the language that they could have political parties and again I'm not saying that Russia is like even though I do I am spiritually Russian someone told me that and I have a Russian aesthetic But that's

00:42:45.000 not why I'm saying this.

00:42:46.000 I'm just saying the facts are all there.

00:42:49.000 And we've had this long, bloody war in which every time this guy wants to negotiate or thinks about, we go, don't.

00:42:56.000 Don't.

00:42:57.000 Keep going.

00:42:58.000 Keep fighting.

00:42:59.000 We got you.

00:43:00.000 And then, you know, Nikki Haley, all these people go, no, it's civilizational.

00:43:05.000 By the way, nothing's regional.

00:43:07.000 Everything's civilizational.

00:43:08.000 Israel, Palestine, civilizational.

00:43:11.000 It's odd.

00:43:12.000 It's like, but wait a minute.

00:43:13.000 That's been a regional conflict forever, since 1946. They go, no, no, no, it's about values.

00:43:20.000 It's about our values.

00:43:21.000 So we've got to send them billions of dollars and we might have to get involved because it's about our value.

00:43:27.000 And you start going, wait a minute, it's about our values in northern Ukraine?

00:43:31.000 So all of these little, and I'm not saying they're little, but all of these conflicts, we can't not get involved.

00:43:39.000 We can't in some way.

00:43:40.000 We have to be involved.

00:43:41.000 We have to fund them.

00:43:43.000 We have to give weapons because we convince everybody that all of these conflicts are...

00:43:48.000 A big battle for the future of civilization.

00:43:52.000 And the next step is Putin's gonna steamroll Vermont.

00:43:56.000 He's coming to Vermont.

00:43:57.000 You let him do what he's doing in the Ukraine, he's gonna steamroll. 1.00

00:44:01.000 He's coming to Aspen.

00:44:03.000 You want to see what happens when Russia owns Aspen? 0.92

00:44:07.000 And nobody thinks logically, like, maybe we like war.

00:44:11.000 Maybe we just like having a constant business.

00:44:16.000 Maybe Eisenhower was right. 1.00

00:44:18.000 Yeah.

00:44:18.000 And Eisenhower warned people when he was leaving office.

00:44:21.000 I mean, that should be required listening to anybody that's confused as to why we're doing certain things.

00:44:28.000 Right.

00:44:29.000 They're making a lot of money right now.

00:44:32.000 And if they can keep this rolling...

00:44:34.000 Yeah.

00:44:34.000 They're making great money.

00:44:36.000 And I'm not making any of it from that.

00:44:39.000 And if you could have some sort of a motivation...

00:44:40.000 Cut me in.

00:44:41.000 You get some sort of motivation, like you're trying to save civilization...

00:44:44.000 Oh, always.

00:44:44.000 You can justify so much.

00:44:46.000 Now, notice that when Saudi Arabia is killing Yemenis, it's not civilizational.

00:44:51.000 That's not civilizational.

00:44:53.000 But Ukraine, Russia is. 0.94

00:44:56.000 And anything that goes on in Israel and Palestine is.

00:45:00.000 But when the country of Yemen is being starved out, bombed and killed with money and weapons from the U.S. through Saudi Arabia, that's not civilizational.

00:45:10.000 That's not civilizational.

00:45:14.000 But Nikki Haley's up there like, let's fight it.

00:45:16.000 Let's go, China. 0.99

00:45:17.000 Let's go.

00:45:18.000 Why do you think she's doing that? 1.00

00:45:19.000 Because she wants... 1.00

00:45:20.000 Has she always been that way?

00:45:20.000 She wants the big money.

00:45:22.000 And the big money people like when you get...

00:45:25.000 Well, she's a woman, so she's got to be Tom Tuff. 0.93

00:45:27.000 Ban TikTok. 1.00

00:45:28.000 I'll kill you. 1.00

00:45:29.000 She wants to ban TikTok. 1.00

00:45:30.000 Oh, ban it.

00:45:31.000 Ban it. 1.00

00:45:32.000 And then we're going to go there and kick China's ass for making it. 1.00

00:45:34.000 I'm Nikki Haley. 1.00

00:45:36.000 I'm tough.

00:45:37.000 I want Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:45:38.000 Hillary Clinton came out like the running of the bulls, going, fuck Putin. 1.00

00:45:44.000 We should kill... 1.00

00:45:46.000 Hillary's on record saying some of the most bellicose things ever about what we should be doing with our CIA and with our military. 0.98

00:45:54.000 And Nikki Haley's basically going out there going, the big money likes when you're open to a little conflict. 0.93

00:46:00.000 They like that.

00:46:01.000 The Koch brothers types like when you leave the door open.

00:46:05.000 You don't have to say we're going to do it, but leave the door open.

00:46:08.000 All options on the table.

00:46:10.000 That's their favorite word.

00:46:11.000 Their favorite sentence is like, we're leaving all options on the table.

00:46:15.000 It's about our values, says Nikki Haley.

00:46:17.000 It's about our values.

00:46:19.000 In northern Ukraine, they like she wants the money.

00:46:24.000 I don't know what Chris Christie's up there talking about.

00:46:28.000 You know, a Zempick or whatever, but he's not getting a dollar. 0.98

00:46:30.000 No one's giving him anything.

00:46:32.000 He's a weird one.

00:46:33.000 He's just there to ruin things.

00:46:35.000 Here's what I appreciate about Chris Christie.

00:46:37.000 He exists only to destroy.

00:46:40.000 Because he can't win.

00:46:59.000 When they take you up to Monterio, California in the Bohemian Grove and they sit you down by the redwood trees and you go, I like your style.

00:47:08.000 I just like...

00:47:09.000 Now, by the way, who the hell is Nikki? 1.00

00:47:11.000 No one knows.

00:47:12.000 No one cares.

00:47:12.000 She was the governor of what?

00:47:14.000 What was she the governor of?

00:47:15.000 South Carolina.

00:47:16.000 Great, great, great. 0.99

00:47:18.000 But again, none of these people gave a shit back then, right? 0.98

00:47:21.000 I think her big thing was when someone climbed to the top of the state house and took away the Confederate flag, she was like, well, that's good. 0.99

00:47:29.000 I think she didn't do anything.

00:47:30.000 Whatever.

00:47:31.000 She had that moment of like, look at me.

00:47:33.000 I'm the governor and I'm progressive.

00:47:35.000 I'll let people vandalize the Capitol, maybe for its good reason, whatever. 0.99

00:47:39.000 But nobody knew who this bitch was until she got on stage and started saying, hey, I would love to go to war. 1.00

00:47:49.000 I would love to go to war. 0.99

00:47:50.000 And then all of a sudden, all the money started going, you know, Nikki Haley, who she's not a particularly engaging or electric, you know, she's fine, but she's not like somebody who's like, whoa.

00:48:03.000 So what do they do?

00:48:04.000 Do they step in and say we need better speechwriters?

00:48:08.000 What do they do?

00:48:09.000 Do they say we need some sort of a clear dynamic message that comes from you that's uniquely from a woman's perspective that might excite Republicans? 0.99

00:48:17.000 Yeah, the Karl Rove type sit down and go, we've really lost our way here.

00:48:21.000 We've lost our way because right after 9-11, we were able to sell people on this idea that America had to dominate every corner of the globe And we were going to throw a lot of lives at that, and we were going to spend a lot of money to do that.

00:48:39.000 And that's what's ultimately going to make us safer and secure us.

00:48:42.000 And Americans after the Iraq War did not believe that.

00:48:45.000 The Americans said, no, we don't believe that.

00:48:48.000 So then all these neocons became Democrats.

00:48:50.000 All the people that had pushed that war had become Democrats, and they started coming at it from the left and going like, well, Russia, they don't like trans people.

00:48:59.000 Did you hear that? 0.88

00:49:00.000 They don't like trans people. 1.00

00:49:02.000 They don't have a Real Housewives franchise in Russia. 0.96

00:49:05.000 Like, they went at it from another way, going like, we have to confront these countries, these evil people like Vladimir Putin, who are irrational.

00:49:15.000 They're not acting in their own self-interest. 0.94

00:49:17.000 They're irrational psychopaths that want to dominate the world, even though Putin's never showed any inclination of doing that one time, ever once. 0.93

00:49:26.000 But he's gonna. 0.88

00:49:27.000 He's 75, and he may or may not have Parkinson's, but now he's gonna go and dominate the world, even though he can barely dominate the Ukraine after a year and a half of fighting.

00:49:39.000 Two years.

00:49:40.000 But they go, no, no, no, he's going to dominate the whole world.

00:49:43.000 And so the whole idea is basically just like they have to get back on that thing because Americans have lost the belief in that.

00:49:51.000 You can't sell that to people anymore.

00:49:54.000 Nobody wants to hear that.

00:49:55.000 What do you think changed?

00:49:56.000 The Iraq War.

00:49:57.000 I watched it.

00:49:58.000 I saw it.

00:49:59.000 I was a kid.

00:50:00.000 I was in high school.

00:50:01.000 Friends of mine signed up for the military.

00:50:04.000 RIP to some of them.

00:50:06.000 A lot of them survived.

00:50:08.000 People watched soldiers dying every day.

00:50:11.000 They watched...

00:50:13.000 A lot of people get rich.

00:50:15.000 They watch the 10 counties outside of Washington, D.C. become the most valuable places, you know, the biggest, you know, in terms of like net worth.

00:50:27.000 They looked at all these counties around D.C. and they're like, wait, what?

00:50:31.000 We're not talking about the Hamptons or Manhattan or Malibu or the hill country of Texas.

00:50:36.000 We're talking about Virginia.

00:50:39.000 And people watched a lot of people get rich.

00:50:42.000 They watched a lot of corruption.

00:50:43.000 They watched a lot of people die.

00:50:44.000 And then what did we get for it in Iraq?

00:50:47.000 What did we really get?

00:50:49.000 What did we get in Afghanistan?

00:50:50.000 The Taliban's built back! 0.96

00:50:52.000 They're back.

00:50:54.000 We left 20 years later with nothing.

00:50:56.000 So then people start going, okay.

00:50:59.000 We didn't just leave.

00:51:00.000 We armed them.

00:51:00.000 We armed them and then cowered out.

00:51:03.000 And then like, so watching that, watching that whole process has, I think, disillusioned a lot of people in my generation. 0.94

00:51:12.000 I'm 38 and we're looking at all this shit and we're going like, dude, nothing you promised us happened. 0.93

00:51:19.000 We don't feel safer. 0.99

00:51:21.000 It doesn't feel like we're safer because we invaded Iraq. 0.97

00:51:24.000 Have you ever entertained the idea that they left behind all that equipment so that the Taliban could become a threat and they would justify going back in again? 0.78

00:51:32.000 Of course.

00:51:33.000 It's a circular thing.

00:51:34.000 Keep the door open.

00:51:35.000 It's a circular thing.

00:51:36.000 Leave all options on the table.

00:51:37.000 Let's put them on the table.

00:51:38.000 Nikki Haley will be back in there in three months. 1.00

00:51:41.000 She'll go in there. 0.51

00:51:42.000 She'll go, well, the women are being trained. 1.00

00:51:45.000 Because it's always a tug at your heartstrings. 0.97

00:51:47.000 Because we all agree that we shouldn't throw, most of us, we shouldn't throw gay people off the roof. 0.83

00:51:53.000 And we shouldn't stone women. 0.99

00:51:55.000 We all agree with that.

00:51:56.000 And that's the things they trot out.

00:51:59.000 They go, you know...

00:52:01.000 The women are being stoned. 0.99

00:52:03.000 Meanwhile, they're letting people into America who some of them want to stone women and some of them would throw gay people off the roof. 1.00

00:52:10.000 And if you question that, you're a Nazi. 0.96

00:52:14.000 Do you ever see some of the photos of Kabul from like the 1970s? 0.99

00:52:18.000 Yeah, it was fucking the spot. 0.95

00:52:20.000 It was amazing. 0.99

00:52:21.000 It was the spot.

00:52:22.000 People would go there all the time.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, it was great.

00:52:24.000 They would take vacations there.

00:52:26.000 Well, also Iran, before the coup, was this progressive place.

00:52:30.000 And we realized, you know, the British and the United States, it doesn't, that's not going to work for us.

00:52:39.000 We'd actually rather them to be these scary, because the dictators will, you know, work with our companies.

00:52:46.000 That's why that Osama Bin Laden letter to America went viral on TikTok.

00:52:51.000 People are like, wait a minute, what did we do?

00:52:53.000 My 12-year-old cousin's in Al-Qaeda now. 0.99

00:52:57.000 He's walking around going, this motherfucker makes a lot of sense about a lot of things. 0.99

00:53:01.000 But that's the problem. 1.00

00:53:02.000 The problem is when Bin Laden did that, we were told the dumbest thing ever, he hated us because of our freedom. 0.91

00:53:09.000 He hated us because of our freedom.

00:53:11.000 It's our freedom and that what we needed to do is give people our freedom.

00:53:16.000 So that they didn't hate us.

00:53:17.000 It was this Manichaean good and evil thing.

00:53:20.000 And we bought into it.

00:53:21.000 I bought into it.

00:53:22.000 I cannot count the amount of parties I was at, coked to my gills, screaming about the need for the Iraq war. 0.58

00:53:29.000 I was like, we're over there smoking a cigarette.

00:53:32.000 You don't understand.

00:53:33.000 We're over there. 1.00

00:53:34.000 I was like a fucking a parachick. 1.00

00:53:36.000 I was running around Long Island, drunk in my car, coked out of my face, screaming and yelling that we needed the surge. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Please.

00:53:44.000 We need to surge!

00:53:46.000 And they got me.

00:53:52.000 They got me because I felt good about it.

00:53:53.000 I went, this makes sense.

00:53:55.000 We're America.

00:53:56.000 We have freedom.

00:53:57.000 I have freedom to sell subprime mortgages and do cocaine.

00:54:00.000 They should have that. 0.99

00:54:01.000 And we need the surge, and we need money, and we can't give up, and we can't stop, and John Kerry's a pussy, and he went to Vietnam to just, I don't know, take photos or whatever he did. 0.99

00:54:11.000 And I totally bought in all of it. 0.99

00:54:14.000 I was bought in, and now I was on a lot of drugs.

00:54:16.000 You're also young.

00:54:17.000 When you're young, being patriotic like that, like blindly, when you're young, is super common.

00:54:23.000 I remember this girl goes, She said something to me.

00:54:28.000 It was one of these girls who was like a little bit more like, you know, not buying into it.

00:54:34.000 And then she was like, she goes, do you ever think what it would feel like to be in a house and just have your city bombed?

00:54:46.000 I know that you're saying this is all for a good reason and this is to liberate them, but do you ever think about what it would feel like to just be in a place and then just hear bombs and then things are shaking and everything?

00:55:01.000 And I was like, no.

00:55:04.000 No.

00:55:04.000 But things like that will stop you, right?

00:55:08.000 Things like that stop you in your tracks a little bit. 0.97

00:55:10.000 You go, oh, that would suck.

00:55:11.000 When Callan was a kid, he was in Beirut during the bombings.

00:55:19.000 Interesting.

00:55:20.000 Yeah, he experienced that. 0.99

00:55:23.000 That probably fucking sticks with you. 0.99

00:55:26.000 It sticks with you, for sure. 1.00

00:55:27.000 You're watching buildings blow up three blocks away.

00:55:30.000 This is the thing with Israel and Gaza right now. 0.98

00:55:32.000 Everyone thinks Israel should and does have the right to respond. 0.93

00:55:35.000 Obviously, they have to secure their country, right?

00:55:39.000 They were invaded.

00:55:40.000 We get it.

00:55:41.000 The problem becomes when people are just watching massive civilian casualties all day on TikTok.

00:55:48.000 You know, there's a certain level where people, they lose their tolerance.

00:55:54.000 They go, this is a lot.

00:55:56.000 And I think in the modern world, people don't have the stomach, and nor should they, to see this level of death and carnage.

00:56:07.000 Especially from innocent women and children. 0.97

00:56:09.000 Yes.

00:56:10.000 When you see people being pulled out of the rubble like babies.

00:56:13.000 It's tough. 1.00

00:56:14.000 And two years ago, it was idiots dancing on it in pajamas. 1.00

00:56:17.000 And these kids are going, what happened? 1.00

00:56:19.000 It used to be Charli D'Amelio doing the hula hoop. 1.00

00:56:22.000 Now it's people being pulled out of the rubble and kids are like, what?

00:56:27.000 So it doesn't work anymore.

00:56:29.000 Like this type of all-out conflict is...

00:56:33.000 It doesn't work.

00:56:34.000 And I appreciate Israel's position because it's a tough position to be in.

00:56:39.000 That being said, it's not going to work.

00:56:42.000 If we had TikTok when we were in Fallujah, It would have been crazy.

00:56:46.000 Oh my God.

00:56:47.000 None of it.

00:56:48.000 Just look at the stuff that got out about the...

00:56:51.000 What is it called?

00:56:54.000 Which prison?

00:56:54.000 Zagreb?

00:56:55.000 Abu Ghraib.

00:56:56.000 Abu Ghraib. 1.00

00:56:57.000 With the fucking dogs? 1.00

00:56:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:59.000 The shit they were doing to people? 1.00

00:57:00.000 That cigarette smoking girl, Lindy England, who now, by the way, works at a strawberry festival. 1.00

00:57:03.000 I found that out on my podcast.

00:57:05.000 I swear to God.

00:57:07.000 Lindy England, the cigarette chain smoking cigarette girl, Who tortured those guys at Abu Ghraib literally was one of the, like, sponsors of a strawberry festival. 1.00

00:57:16.000 I forget where, but it's absolutely true, and you can check it, and it's amazing.

00:57:22.000 And I thought, you know, everybody has a second act in this country, by the way.

00:57:27.000 Everybody.

00:57:28.000 Doesn't really matter what you've done.

00:57:30.000 Everyone has a second act.

00:57:32.000 O.J.'s on his third act.

00:57:35.000 Trump's on his third or fifth, sixth act, seventh act.

00:57:38.000 Everyone has a second act.

00:57:40.000 If you're still on the planet in this country, that's the thing about Russia. 0.95

00:57:44.000 They had to kill that guy, Progosian. 1.00

00:57:45.000 You don't get a second act there.

00:57:47.000 That's not the way it is.

00:57:48.000 They don't have the mechanism.

00:57:50.000 They can't give him a reality show.

00:57:52.000 Progosian doesn't get a game show. 1.00

00:57:53.000 They got to blow him out of the sky.

00:57:55.000 In America, like Hollywood would love Trump.

00:57:58.000 Now, if Trump goes, I'm not going to run for president.

00:58:00.000 I just want to do a big show.

00:58:01.000 They would build him a fake White House in Burbank.

00:58:05.000 Tonight.

00:58:06.000 And they'd give him Emmys.

00:58:09.000 They'd pretend it was all good.

00:58:10.000 They'd hug him.

00:58:11.000 It wouldn't matter as long as he doesn't do the thing they don't want him to do.

00:58:17.000 I don't think that's true.

00:58:17.000 I don't think he ever comes back.

00:58:19.000 I don't think they ever let you back in.

00:58:21.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:58:21.000 Once they decide you're Hitler.

00:58:22.000 If he just said, I'm not going...

00:58:25.000 George W. Bush, Ellen's hugging him going, we love him.

00:58:29.000 And then people are going, he wasn't that bad.

00:58:31.000 He was much worse president than Trump.

00:58:33.000 Yeah.

00:58:33.000 Did much worse to America.

00:58:34.000 But I think if Trump just said, I'm abandoning politics, Hollywood would be there in two seconds because they don't have any morals.

00:58:41.000 They're amoral.

00:58:42.000 That's the thing about Hollywood.

00:58:43.000 They don't care.

00:58:44.000 They're only thinking about what can make the money and what will get them in trouble the least.

00:58:49.000 But don't you think that in this day and age, being moral, or at least like Signaling that your moral is an important part of Hollywood.

00:58:58.000 It didn't exist before. 0.99

00:59:00.000 It can be and it is to a certain degree, but they all know Trump is a fucking massive train of money. 0.99

00:59:08.000 They all know he's a train of money. 0.97

00:59:10.000 And if he just said, listen, I don't want to be the president anymore.

00:59:14.000 I want to host a game show. 0.96

00:59:17.000 There are people that Ted Sarandos is calling him and anyone that says shit about Ted, like he would go, hey, what do you want him to be president? 0.97

00:59:25.000 I gave him a show. 1.00

00:59:27.000 What are you nuts? 0.73

00:59:28.000 He'd be in his Malibu house screaming like I gave Trump a show. 0.96

00:59:31.000 So I do think that there's a way back in.

00:59:34.000 They just they don't want him to be the president.

00:59:36.000 Yeah.

00:59:37.000 But they don't...

00:59:38.000 But he wants to be the president.

00:59:39.000 And he's going to probably be the president.

00:59:41.000 He's going to be the president.

00:59:43.000 It's going to feel interesting when he's inaugurated, because it'll feel like we're living in a loop.

00:59:47.000 How far do you think they would go to stop it?

00:59:51.000 Because it's really wild watching him being prosecuted, right?

00:59:54.000 Yes.

00:59:54.000 It's really wild.

00:59:55.000 I know, for inflating the price of a condo. 1.00

00:59:57.000 It's the dumbest thing ever. 0.99

00:59:58.000 It's weird. 0.99

00:59:59.000 They were like, he's an asset of Russia.

01:00:01.000 And now they're like, now it's totally switched to where they're like, he said it had six bedrooms.

01:00:06.000 It has five.

01:00:07.000 It's like, guys, this wasn't what we were told.

01:00:10.000 We were told he was an asset of Russia.

01:00:11.000 And then they switched it up immediately to go, oh, he inflated the price of his real estate.

01:00:15.000 By the way, everyone does that.

01:00:17.000 Everyone does that.

01:00:18.000 If somebody's appraising your house, you walk up at the end and go, you saw the basement, right?

01:00:23.000 That's woodwork that I did.

01:00:25.000 Everyone does that.

01:00:26.000 He does it on a grand scale because he has more money and more properties.

01:00:31.000 But the idea that that's what we're getting him for, it's hilarious.

01:00:35.000 It's weird.

01:00:36.000 It's crazy.

01:00:37.000 Because if this keeps going, how far will they take it?

01:00:40.000 If he keeps getting bigger, because it seems like, at least in public perception, The more they come after him, the bigger he gets.

01:00:48.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 Because the more people realize the game.

01:00:50.000 Right. 1.00

01:00:51.000 They're like, oh my god, this is like banana republic shit. 1.00

01:00:53.000 You're prosecuting your political opponent. 1.00

01:00:55.000 Yes.

01:00:55.000 And you're doing it specifically to time the trials around Republican conventions, primaries, all these different things.

01:01:01.000 You're doing it on purpose.

01:01:02.000 Right.

01:01:02.000 It's pretty clear.

01:01:03.000 Right.

01:01:03.000 So everyone's more and more supportive of him than ever.

01:01:07.000 So how far will they go and how far can they go?

01:01:09.000 I don't know.

01:01:10.000 I think he'll run the joint from the can.

01:01:12.000 I think he'll run the country from prison.

01:01:15.000 I mean, I think he'll run it from a federal prison.

01:01:18.000 I mean, it might get to the point where we have the first mafia president where he's in federal prison in Palm Beach and he's running the country.

01:01:26.000 Is that possible?

01:01:27.000 I don't think they'll kill him.

01:01:28.000 I don't think they kill anyone anymore.

01:01:30.000 I don't think they kill anyone anymore.

01:01:33.000 They don't seem to.

01:01:35.000 They're torturing Assange. 0.85

01:01:37.000 They'll bleed you out slowly. 0.73

01:01:38.000 Assange thing is wild.

01:01:40.000 But they don't seem to be killing anyone anymore.

01:01:42.000 They used to kill everyone.

01:01:44.000 MLK, JFK, RFK. Everyone died.

01:01:48.000 But now they're not killing people nearly as much.

01:01:52.000 There's a few people...

01:01:53.000 People disappear a little bit.

01:01:54.000 ...connected to the Epstein case.

01:01:56.000 They go.

01:01:57.000 They had to go.

01:01:58.000 They absolutely go.

01:01:59.000 A few of those guys went.

01:02:00.000 Take this off.

01:02:00.000 I think I'm allergic to it.

01:02:01.000 That one guy...

01:02:03.000 I mean, it's crazy.

01:02:03.000 The one guy that, 30 miles from his house, he hung himself with an electric cord and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.

01:02:10.000 That's right.

01:02:11.000 There was a guy in Palm Beach.

01:02:12.000 They found him in his pool.

01:02:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:16.000 I've seen Franny was in the pool.

01:02:17.000 There's a few of those.

01:02:18.000 Well, they've got to tie up the loose ends.

01:02:20.000 There's a few of those loose ends that had to get tied up.

01:02:22.000 Oh, they've got to tie up those loose ends. 0.93

01:02:24.000 Yeah, there's a few of those.

01:02:25.000 Without a doubt.

01:02:25.000 Without a doubt, they tied them up.

01:02:27.000 But they don't go after the big guys anyway.

01:02:30.000 They used to go after the big guys all the time.

01:02:32.000 Right.

01:02:33.000 They don't seem to do that.

01:02:35.000 They have this prosecutor, Jack Smith, Jack something.

01:02:40.000 They always have a guy they love.

01:02:42.000 Mm.

01:02:43.000 It was...

01:02:44.000 Who was it?

01:02:45.000 It was Mueller.

01:02:46.000 Mueller.

01:02:47.000 And then there was another guy.

01:02:49.000 Everybody's...

01:02:50.000 It's like he's the white knight.

01:02:53.000 Yeah, this guy now.

01:02:54.000 Jack Smith is the guy.

01:02:55.000 So everybody's put...

01:02:56.000 They all put their hope in Jack Smith.

01:02:57.000 They had put their hope in...

01:02:58.000 This is Trump's attorney?

01:02:59.000 Yeah.

01:03:02.000 Hmm.

01:03:04.000 No, this is not Trump's attorney.

01:03:05.000 This is the guy who's going at Trump.

01:03:07.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:03:08.000 He's the special counsel.

01:03:10.000 Oh, so this is the guy that's trying to prosecute Trump.

01:03:13.000 And they're basically saying, like, you know, this is the one.

01:03:17.000 He's got it. 0.99

01:03:18.000 We've heard this for fucking forever. 0.99

01:03:22.000 Yeah, it's like it's hard when you see the amount of crime that people are getting away with. 0.99

01:03:28.000 Yeah.

01:03:29.000 On the streets.

01:03:31.000 And then you see this disproportion thing.

01:03:33.000 You're like, you're trying to put someone in a cage for what?

01:03:35.000 And you're releasing people when they just storm into Nordstrom's and just run out with racks of clothes and smash people justifying that.

01:03:45.000 You're making laws so you can't prosecute someone for stealing less than a certain amount.

01:03:49.000 What are you talking about?

01:03:51.000 And you're gonna go after that guy?

01:03:53.000 For what?

01:03:54.000 What is our goal?

01:03:56.000 Is our goal a safer world?

01:03:58.000 Is our goal a place where businesses can thrive?

01:04:00.000 Well, you want to be protected from Donald Trump's inflated condo price.

01:04:05.000 I mean, it's so crazy that the two things exist in the same country simultaneously.

01:04:10.000 Erosion.

01:04:11.000 Erosion of law and order.

01:04:12.000 If you talk to anyone in California, everybody knows somebody whose house has been robbed.

01:04:16.000 Yeah.

01:04:17.000 Home invasion.

01:04:18.000 Yeah.

01:04:18.000 Everybody knows somebody.

01:04:19.000 Scary shit. 1.00

01:04:20.000 Scary shit. 1.00

01:04:21.000 It's scary shit, and yet they're not concentrating on that at all. 1.00

01:04:25.000 You know, like, New York City's on a giant wave of crime, and they're prosecuting Trump for this. 1.00

01:04:30.000 Meanwhile, they also have this insane thing where they're a sanctuary city.

01:04:35.000 So they have to take in all these immigrants. 1.00

01:04:37.000 But the president's son, and everyone keeps talking about this, they go, well, he's being, it's a political witch hunt. 1.00

01:04:43.000 I'm like, he has videos of himself smoking crack with Ukrainian hookers with gun to their heads. 1.00

01:04:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:04:52.000 The guy lives in Malibu and he has art shows in Soho.

01:04:55.000 He's doing okay.

01:04:57.000 Like, anyone's life's ruined with one of the videos on his laptop.

01:05:01.000 Anyone.

01:05:02.000 They've done a remarkable job of minimizing the impact of that laptop.

01:05:06.000 He had his problems.

01:05:09.000 It's amazing.

01:05:10.000 He had his problems.

01:05:12.000 You have no compassion for addicts? 0.98

01:05:14.000 I'm like, he's in the Ukraine with a gun to a hooker's head, smoking crack, With a job his father got him. 0.92

01:05:23.000 You don't have compassion for addicts. 0.97

01:05:26.000 It's a little different.

01:05:28.000 It's slightly different.

01:05:30.000 Can we admit that?

01:05:31.000 Well, it's also much different if we can find out that Joe Biden was involved.

01:05:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:40.000 Sure.

01:05:41.000 And the idea that he wasn't involved seems more unlikely.

01:05:44.000 Seems odd.

01:05:45.000 Seems weird.

01:05:46.000 Odd that they would just bring in Hunter.

01:05:49.000 It seemed like they had conversations, too.

01:05:50.000 Yeah.

01:05:51.000 And it seems like he said that they didn't.

01:05:53.000 It's a tough family, the Bidens.

01:05:55.000 But just imagine if that was Trump.

01:05:58.000 Just imagine the overall media coverage of it.

01:06:02.000 It would be insane. 0.99

01:06:03.000 Imagine how insane it would be if Donald Trump Jr. Well, if Donald Trump was like, we should support the Ukraine, the media in this country would go, fuck the Ukraine. 0.99

01:06:12.000 Like, anything he said, they just, they run the other way. 0.93

01:06:17.000 But how crazy must it be for people like the CNN people that realized their greatest profits when they were having Donald Trump on every day?

01:06:23.000 Well, that's why they want him back.

01:06:24.000 But they probably helped him get elected.

01:06:26.000 That's why I think they ultimately want him back.

01:06:29.000 They ultimately kind of want him back.

01:06:31.000 For business.

01:06:31.000 They've kind of engineered his comeback to a degree.

01:06:34.000 Bill Burr made a point.

01:06:36.000 He was like, he was on the casino circuit, and then everybody started indicting him and talking about him, and now he's back.

01:06:40.000 They like him.

01:06:42.000 They love him.

01:06:42.000 He was a creature of Hollywood in the media before he was a politician.

01:06:46.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 They did create him, and I think he's certainly not bad for business.

01:06:52.000 It's just wild how they turned.

01:06:54.000 Well, it's just wild to live in a time when we feel like we're almost in an actual loop where you go, it's going to be the same people.

01:07:03.000 Over and over again.

01:07:04.000 Over and over again.

01:07:05.000 The Bushes, the Clintons, Chelsea Clinton run for president in 2029. You know, and it's just going to be the same things.

01:07:10.000 And that's why you check out.

01:07:11.000 That's why my dad is so checked out now.

01:07:14.000 And I used to think like, oh, he should learn more about, or he shouldn't.

01:07:17.000 And now I've realized he's like, maybe the wisest person I know.

01:07:22.000 Because his whole response, like at Thanksgiving, someone goes, what do you think about this Israel thing in Gaza?

01:07:27.000 And he goes, not cool.

01:07:29.000 And just kept eating.

01:07:31.000 And I went, that's his level.

01:07:33.000 He's got two or three words.

01:07:34.000 For any global event, my father has at maximum four words to describe it.

01:07:41.000 It's usually like, that's not good.

01:07:43.000 And then he keeps eating.

01:07:44.000 And I'm like, maybe that's the move.

01:07:47.000 I used to say that.

01:07:49.000 I used to ridicule that.

01:07:50.000 I used to go, he's really out of touch. 1.00

01:07:52.000 But now I'm like, oh, he's lived through Vietnam and the first Iraq war, the second Iraq war, Afghanistan, Iran-Contra, the president getting his dick sucked, Obama, Trump. 1.00

01:08:06.000 I think eventually you kind of just toss it. 1.00

01:08:10.000 You toss it in.

01:08:12.000 You decide that you're not going to get involved.

01:08:15.000 And you're just going to try to enjoy your life.

01:08:17.000 These young kids on TikTok now that scream about politics, they just yell about politics.

01:08:21.000 There's a whole group of young kids who yell into their phone about politics.

01:08:27.000 You see them.

01:08:28.000 There's two kids who love Biden.

01:08:30.000 And I had them on my show, and they go, we love Joe.

01:08:34.000 I love Joe Biden.

01:08:35.000 You had them on your show?

01:08:36.000 I had them on my show.

01:08:37.000 What was that like?

01:08:38.000 What do they know about anything?

01:08:41.000 Did you get through to them at all?

01:08:42.000 No.

01:08:43.000 Was there fun?

01:08:44.000 I don't get through to people.

01:08:46.000 You get through to me.

01:08:47.000 I get through to you.

01:08:48.000 There's a few people I get through to.

01:08:50.000 Was it fun?

01:08:50.000 They were cool kids, but they're insane.

01:08:53.000 Right. 0.99

01:08:54.000 They're insane.

01:08:55.000 But did you have any good points that they had to address? 0.75

01:08:58.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:09:00.000 But that level, when you're a kid, or whatever you are, they're not kids either.

01:09:07.000 They're like young adults.

01:09:08.000 But that level of certainty that you have about the world, you never see the world more clear than when you're like 20. You know at 20 why everyone's a loser, why everyone's a winner.

01:09:22.000 What's wrong and what's right.

01:09:24.000 And so now we have an app where you can go on it and scream in the app and tell everybody all the things you've figured out in 10 years of summer camp or whatever.

01:09:36.000 But what it really is is you haven't lived long enough To have any of your ideas challenged in any real way.

01:09:46.000 Right.

01:09:46.000 You're also, your brain's not fully formed yet.

01:09:48.000 Your brain's not formed.

01:09:49.000 And you want attention?

01:09:50.000 And you're in the middle of this weird culture shift where people are, like, getting rewarded for yelling about politics.

01:09:57.000 That's right.

01:09:58.000 On TikTok publicly, where you would normally just kind of do it with your friends like you did over the Iraq war, coked up with a cigarette.

01:10:04.000 If I had had TikTok...

01:10:07.000 Back then, oh my god.

01:10:09.000 If I did TikTok back then, I was a guy where I was...

01:10:15.000 I would go over to my friends' houses. 0.99

01:10:17.000 I would hang out with their parents until, like, they would be working, like, shit little jobs. 0.96

01:10:21.000 It'd be, like, the end of high school, beginning of college. 0.98

01:10:24.000 And I would sit there with their parents.

01:10:25.000 They would make martinis, and we would drink gin, and we would watch The O'Reilly Factor.

01:10:30.000 And we would smoke cigarettes in the backyard.

01:10:33.000 And this was like, you know, if I had TikTok at that point, it would have just been this sweaty, disheveled cokehead screaming about how Donald Rumsfeld needs our support. 1.00

01:10:44.000 Because that was, you know, I was like, you're not American.

01:10:49.000 And that's...

01:10:50.000 I just think about myself. 0.99

01:10:52.000 I was like, fuck, I couldn't have been more wrong. 0.99

01:10:53.000 So I look at these kids who now have, like, the technology to broadcast every thought they've ever... 0.99

01:10:59.000 that they think they're having.

01:11:01.000 And I'm like, you're going to look back on that and go, that was so cringe.

01:11:05.000 Right.

01:11:06.000 When I was, like, doing Biden Youth and screaming about the importance of Biden and how great he was, even if you believe in Biden or think he's good or whatever...

01:11:20.000 The way that they do it, they're going to look back on it and they're going to go, oh, I was caught up in something.

01:11:26.000 Because that's what I feel.

01:11:27.000 I go, I was caught up.

01:11:28.000 I didn't really.

01:11:30.000 I read a few books that I didn't understand.

01:11:34.000 And I went all around Long Island screaming about the need to democratize the Middle East.

01:11:42.000 There's something about doing that on Long Island.

01:11:44.000 Oh, it's amazing.

01:11:45.000 It's so classic.

01:11:45.000 It was great.

01:11:46.000 And it was like, I remember being in the car with people.

01:11:50.000 You want to fight him here?

01:11:52.000 You want to fight him here?

01:11:54.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:11:55.000 Every talking point that was given to me, I completely now realize sounds ridiculous.

01:12:02.000 And I look at these young people and I'm like, I'm not saying don't be passionate about things.

01:12:07.000 I'm just saying like, live a little.

01:12:10.000 Wait a little bit.

01:12:11.000 It's hard to realize why you're captured in a way of thinking while you're in the middle of it and all your friends are in the middle of it and everybody's in the middle of it.

01:12:20.000 See, at least back then you didn't have social media, so it's like I wasn't doing it to be famous. 0.99

01:12:24.000 I was doing it because I was genuinely fucked a lunatic. 1.00

01:12:28.000 I was a genuine fucking lunatic. 1.00

01:12:30.000 Now these kids go, oh, there's clout. 1.00

01:12:32.000 I can make money.

01:12:34.000 I have followers.

01:12:35.000 Ooh, yeah.

01:12:35.000 Back then, I was like, no, no, no.

01:12:37.000 I got a backyard.

01:12:37.000 I got a bottle of vodka.

01:12:39.000 I got a pack of cigarettes.

01:12:40.000 Let's go.

01:12:41.000 But you know what's ironic?

01:12:42.000 Yeah.

01:12:44.000 If you were on TikTok and there was all these other people doing it at the same time, if TikTok existed back when you were a kid, you would still rise to the top.

01:12:56.000 Yeah, well, I'd like to think so.

01:12:58.000 Yeah, you would 100%.

01:12:59.000 You would 100%.

01:13:00.000 Because a lot of this people getting attention that are mediocre, it's just a lack of other content that's available.

01:13:07.000 No, I would like to think so.

01:13:08.000 I would like to think that there'd be people being like, do you watch that guy?

01:13:11.000 They'd be like, he's the guy. 1.00

01:13:12.000 That fat, closeted, gay cocaine addict. 1.00

01:13:17.000 Who talks about why we need to do the Iraq War? 1.00

01:13:19.000 He's good.

01:13:20.000 Who knows?

01:13:21.000 You would be a Fox News consultant. 0.80

01:13:23.000 I could go to Lachlan Murdoch right now and say, give me 20 million, dummy. 0.99

01:13:27.000 Imagine if Fox decided to go Wild West and they had an online, wild, right-wing, swear all the time, talk about whatever the fuck you want to. 0.97

01:13:41.000 That would get a lot of the young guys in. 0.97

01:13:43.000 Listen, I'd be the oldest person on TikTok if Fox News did a TikTok show with me, and it was just me screaming at these kids.

01:13:52.000 And they're all young guys who...

01:13:57.000 They all have a boy band aesthetic and they're kind of like, they're also trying to get girls as they talk about politics.

01:14:03.000 Right.

01:14:04.000 So it's the weirdest thing.

01:14:04.000 They're like, you know, they're like looking in the camera, they're like, you know, like healthcare, like you have that abortion.

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:12.000 You know, which is lovely.

01:14:13.000 I mean, I'm not anti-abortion, but...

01:14:15.000 It's so funny to see this.

01:14:17.000 Everything's conflated with everything else. 0.99

01:14:19.000 So it's like they're out there trying to get pussy, trying to make money, trying to be famous, and also trying to be right. 0.97

01:14:26.000 And by the way, a few of those things have to get sacrificed. 0.99

01:14:29.000 The people that I've known where I'm like, God, you're right.

01:14:32.000 A lot of them are not rolling in dough.

01:14:35.000 A lot of those journalists who are like right about stuff or they even care about the idea that there is a right.

01:14:41.000 They're not rolling in doubt.

01:14:43.000 They get sub-stacks.

01:14:44.000 They get sub-stacks.

01:14:45.000 You'll read them.

01:14:46.000 They're doing better now.

01:14:47.000 Sub-stacks are pretty profitable.

01:14:48.000 They're doing better now.

01:14:49.000 The Greenwaltz, people like that, Taibbi, absolutely.

01:14:51.000 They're doing a lot better now. 0.99

01:14:53.000 And you can fucking trust them. 1.00

01:14:55.000 God damn, it's hard to trust. 1.00

01:14:57.000 It's hard to know what the fuck you're reading, what the motivation is behind it. 1.00

01:15:02.000 Like, more than ever before. 0.99

01:15:04.000 You want some more of this?

01:15:05.000 No, I'm good.

01:15:05.000 Thank you, buddy.

01:15:07.000 More than ever before.

01:15:08.000 I mean, so many times I'm reading things. 0.99

01:15:10.000 I'm like, what's the fucking motivation? 0.99

01:15:12.000 What's the true story? 0.98

01:15:13.000 When I came up in the world and understanding, trying to understand this stuff, there was cable news dominated the discourse.

01:15:22.000 So it was just the three networks, the big three, the papers, the Times, the Journal, the Washington Post, whatever.

01:15:29.000 But then it was cable news.

01:15:32.000 So it was MSNBC, Fox News, CNBC to a much lesser degree.

01:15:39.000 CNN even to a much lesser degree.

01:15:41.000 But it was Fox and MSNBC were the ones that were really propaganda factories.

01:15:45.000 Fox was the right, MSNBC was the left.

01:15:48.000 And that's what you had.

01:15:49.000 And that's kind of still what you have if you're a boomer.

01:15:52.000 But now the internet has just opened the gates of hell so that it's every idea and every permutation of every idea.

01:16:01.000 So you get some really good ideas and some really bad ones.

01:16:04.000 And sometimes they're all in the same package.

01:16:07.000 But don't you think you get a lot more of an understanding of what is actually going on?

01:16:12.000 Absolutely.

01:16:12.000 If you're listening to Jimmy Dore.

01:16:14.000 If you're all over the place.

01:16:15.000 Yeah.

01:16:15.000 If you're listening to Breaking Points.

01:16:17.000 Of course.

01:16:17.000 There's so many different versions.

01:16:19.000 There's so much information it verges on too much.

01:16:22.000 Well, it can be.

01:16:23.000 It can be.

01:16:23.000 It's almost impossible to keep up if you have a full-time job.

01:16:26.000 But I mean, it is much better than what it was when I was growing up and you were fed.

01:16:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:33.000 So Bill O'Reilly would come on and feed you.

01:16:36.000 A narrative. 1.00

01:16:37.000 Well, the fucking weapons of mass destruction narrative. 1.00

01:16:40.000 That's responsible for the death of how many fucking people? 1.00

01:16:43.000 Right. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Crazy. 0.76

01:16:45.000 Crazy. 0.62

01:16:45.000 And then it was like, Iraq didn't even make sense. 0.62

01:16:51.000 Well, it made sense for people that had a lot of money in it.

01:16:54.000 They wanted to knock over all these countries.

01:16:56.000 They really wanted to go into Iran.

01:16:57.000 They couldn't do it.

01:16:58.000 Well, you saw the Wesley Clark thing.

01:16:59.000 Of course.

01:16:59.000 That thing's wild.

01:17:01.000 They wanted to go into Iran.

01:17:02.000 They wanted to remake the entire thing.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:17:06.000 When he talked about that, I remember watching that going, wait, what is he saying?

01:17:11.000 Like, they really have conversations like this?

01:17:13.000 Yeah.

01:17:14.000 Well, I think it really does come down to the fact that Listen, our system of government has a lot of benefits, a lot of...

01:17:25.000 There's a lot of...

01:17:26.000 I wouldn't want to live in any other country.

01:17:27.000 There's a lot of great things about our system of government.

01:17:31.000 So the idea of going like, shouldn't everyone have this stuff?

01:17:35.000 Some of it, sure, freedom of speech, all these things, you know?

01:17:39.000 Freedom of association, freedom of religion, all of the things that we, like, value...

01:17:46.000 When they talk about, we should go and give that country that.

01:17:50.000 Absent in that discussion, though, is number one, whether the country wants it, how we're giving it to them, if we're doing it at the barrel of a gun.

01:17:59.000 RFK talks a lot about how China has been really invested in soft power, building schools.

01:18:04.000 What are we doing?

01:18:05.000 Building bases.

01:18:06.000 What do people hate?

01:18:07.000 Military bases.

01:18:09.000 China's Belt and Road Initiative is like building schools.

01:18:13.000 Economically reaching out to people and trying to build bridges and expand China's influence in those parts of the world, namely Africa.

01:18:24.000 We've been doing it at the end of a gun for a very long time.

01:18:30.000 What China's done has been pretty fascinating because they have such an interesting way of running things.

01:18:36.000 I mean, it's horrible if you're stuck under the thumb.

01:18:39.000 But if you look at the way their government and their businesses all work together, no one can do anything that's bad for the government.

01:18:48.000 It's a hard country to not respect.

01:18:51.000 Even though you go, I don't want to live there, you have to respect them.

01:18:55.000 You're a fighter.

01:18:56.000 You respect an adversary who has strengths that you don't have.

01:19:01.000 China has strengths we don't have because- Adherence.

01:19:04.000 Yeah.

01:19:05.000 Compliance.

01:19:05.000 They have a system of government.

01:19:07.000 Censorship.

01:19:08.000 Controlling people completely is probably a strength.

01:19:14.000 It's not a good thing, but it probably does strengthen the nation state to a degree by preventing... 0.96

01:19:26.000 The type of information from getting to them that would make them go, hey, we're getting fucked over. 0.96

01:19:31.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:19:32.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 But people probably know.

01:19:34.000 That's the thing that happened during Russia, during the time of the Soviet Union.

01:19:37.000 I would talk to this dude who was Russian.

01:19:39.000 He said nobody believed anything that was on the news.

01:19:41.000 Everybody assumed that it was all propaganda, no matter what the state news was telling.

01:19:46.000 Right.

01:19:46.000 They kind of had this cynical perspective that they were trapped, and this is just how it is.

01:19:51.000 I've said it before, but we're a country of believers.

01:19:54.000 We're not that cynical.

01:19:56.000 We actually do believe in...

01:19:57.000 The thing about these places where they control people, it makes it very difficult to get creativity.

01:20:02.000 That's true.

01:20:03.000 You don't get any funny because it's too dangerous.

01:20:06.000 No irony, no funny. 1.00

01:20:07.000 Yeah, you talk shit about the wrong people, they're going to fucking kill you. 1.00

01:20:10.000 They'll get you. 1.00

01:20:10.000 Yeah, and you don't get any political disgust. 1.00

01:20:14.000 Did you hear about the show in Russia where it's like, let's find out who's gay and they literally put these guys in a house and one of them's gay? 0.87

01:20:20.000 Oh my God. 0.88

01:20:21.000 And they have to keep kicking them out until they find the gay one. 1.00

01:20:23.000 I mean, it's like hilarious. 0.91

01:20:24.000 Oh, that's funny.

01:20:27.000 The type of entertainment you get like an authoritarian country.

01:20:30.000 They have gang fights.

01:20:32.000 It's crazy.

01:20:32.000 They have gang fights in Russia.

01:20:34.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 MMA fights.

01:20:35.000 Where they have teams of 30 guys on one side and 30 guys on another side.

01:20:38.000 And they run at each other like Braveheart.

01:20:40.000 Right. 0.87

01:20:40.000 And beat the fuck out of each other. 0.87

01:20:42.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 And then we're in different color outfits.

01:20:44.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 So they know who's who.

01:20:45.000 It is wild.

01:20:46.000 It's a wild place, man.

01:20:48.000 You gotta stop.

01:20:49.000 You gotta have a happy medium between that and let's have...

01:20:54.000 Seven-year-old drag queens.

01:20:56.000 And this is the problem.

01:20:58.000 Because we're not designed for balance.

01:21:01.000 The country is not designed for that.

01:21:04.000 And certainly the internet is really not designed for that.

01:21:07.000 The minute you acknowledge certain things and go like, yes, people should be able to pursue happiness as long as it's not at the expense of other people.

01:21:17.000 What tends to happen there is, you know, in freedom, you have a tremendous disparity between people that are going to abuse it, right?

01:21:28.000 Yeah.

01:21:28.000 And so then the answer for those countries is to give people very little freedom.

01:21:33.000 Right.

01:21:34.000 And to wrap it up either in religion or nationalism or whatever it is.

01:21:40.000 And then our country, we maybe go the other way, where we tell people, Your self-esteem and your sense of, you know, is at the expense, sometimes, of a cohesive society.

01:21:56.000 And that also becomes a problem.

01:21:59.000 So a lot of people now are looking at, like, what are the limits of a liberal democracy?

01:22:04.000 What are the limits of self will completely run rampant, you know?

01:22:08.000 If everyone in society is thinking only of themselves, their own happiness, pleasure at every moment, how do we have a cohesive functioning unit?

01:22:19.000 So that is the struggle.

01:22:21.000 That's the struggle is like finding a way for people to be able to have freedom without Infringing on other people.

01:22:32.000 And that doesn't seem to work.

01:22:34.000 Because as soon as you give people freedom, they go, you have to agree with me.

01:22:38.000 Or you're fired.

01:22:40.000 Or we'll take your kids away. 1.00

01:22:42.000 Or we'll whatever. 1.00

01:22:43.000 And that is what makes people throw the whole, go like, fuck it. 1.00

01:22:49.000 No freedom. 1.00

01:22:50.000 You know, it's like the abortion thing.

01:22:52.000 It's like...

01:22:54.000 Both sides of that debate have been in the trans thing.

01:22:57.000 They've both been hijacked by extremists.

01:22:59.000 There are people that believe that you should be able to get an abortion at any point during a pregnancy for any reason.

01:23:05.000 Then there are people that believe you should never be able to get an abortion.

01:23:09.000 Those are the only people we hear from.

01:23:11.000 The rational middle ground just goes to work.

01:23:15.000 That's the problem with all these debates.

01:23:17.000 We don't hear from sane people.

01:23:20.000 And if you chime in, if you have any sort of a balanced perspective or, you know, you're in the middle on these things, you're in the center.

01:23:30.000 If you chime in on these things, you just get attacked.

01:23:33.000 You get attacked by the strongest forces from both sides.

01:23:36.000 Yeah.

01:23:38.000 It's just very aggressive and most people want to avoid that in their life.

01:23:42.000 So if they do wait in occasionally and they get called out for it, you could get fired.

01:23:46.000 You can get in trouble.

01:23:47.000 They can contact your boss.

01:23:49.000 Do you know that your employee is a this or a that?

01:23:51.000 Right.

01:23:51.000 And they support this and they support fascism and they support, you know, and they're like, oh, I don't want to hear this.

01:23:56.000 We're going to start an email campaign to boycott your company and like, oh, fuck. 0.99

01:24:01.000 That's why everyone should choose, like, really one terrible thing to be on the internet and they get to be it. 1.00

01:24:06.000 Whether it's a furry or a Nazi, you get to be like one thing.

01:24:10.000 You have to be one.

01:24:11.000 You have to be one.

01:24:12.000 You can't be everything.

01:24:13.000 What would you be?

01:24:13.000 It's confusing.

01:24:14.000 What would you be?

01:24:15.000 I don't know.

01:24:16.000 I guess furry, we're halfway there with the code.

01:24:18.000 But I just think you have to, you know, it's like, what's interesting about Caitlyn Jenner is trans person, also heavy MAGA, also rich athlete.

01:24:31.000 It's a lot for people.

01:24:33.000 It's a lot.

01:24:34.000 They go...

01:24:35.000 There are people that are hating her for different reasons.

01:24:38.000 There are people that love her and then hate her.

01:24:40.000 It's very interesting when you have those cross-sections of person.

01:24:43.000 Where it's like the trans people are like, we like her.

01:24:46.000 And then she goes, I'm against gay marriage.

01:24:47.000 You go, what's happening?

01:24:48.000 Yeah, like when Kanye put on the MAGA hat.

01:24:50.000 I was like, hey, yes, what's happening?

01:24:52.000 He's had an interesting run.

01:24:57.000 I bet he bounces back with this new album.

01:24:59.000 I bet he bounces back.

01:25:00.000 Especially right now.

01:25:01.000 We're going to see a lot more high-profile breakdowns.

01:25:04.000 Well, right now, you'll see more anti-Semitism than you've ever seen before.

01:25:09.000 It's a lot of it.

01:25:10.000 The stuff that Kanye said seems super mild.

01:25:12.000 It's super mild compared to what a lot of people say.

01:25:15.000 All he said was, I like Hitler. 0.81

01:25:16.000 That's fine.

01:25:17.000 By the way, I love Hitler. 0.97

01:25:18.000 That's not even the worst of it now.

01:25:20.000 I love everybody.

01:25:21.000 That's not even the worst of it now.

01:25:22.000 If your kids are only saying, I love Hitler, you're lucky. 0.99

01:25:28.000 Count yourself lucky if your kids are only going, I love Hitler. 0.98

01:25:31.000 Oh my god.

01:25:32.000 It's a lot of anti-Semitism now and it's a lot of people that are like, I don't know.

01:25:38.000 And I feel...

01:25:40.000 It's open.

01:25:41.000 It's open.

01:25:42.000 People are going wild about it.

01:25:44.000 It's wild.

01:25:45.000 We've talked about it too many times already, but those hearings with that congresswoman was addressing the president of Harvard.

01:25:51.000 Why doesn't anyone lie?

01:25:52.000 Why doesn't anyone lie anymore?

01:25:54.000 Why didn't she go, what?

01:25:56.000 Nobody lies.

01:25:58.000 The fact that the president of Harvard can't lie scares me more than the discrimination.

01:26:05.000 I don't think it's a matter of that she can't lie.

01:26:08.000 I think it's a matter of she believes that those things are okay.

01:26:12.000 Ask me the question they asked her and I'm going to tell you what the right response was. 0.75

01:26:16.000 Okay.

01:26:17.000 Does yelling, death to the Jews, constitute harassment? 0.98

01:26:24.000 I was in my office. 0.99

01:26:26.000 I thought they were saying death to the blues.

01:26:28.000 I had no idea they were talking about Jews.

01:26:31.000 None of that's going on.

01:26:33.000 I don't even know what's happening.

01:26:35.000 I go to work every day just trying to make this the greatest country in the world.

01:26:39.000 And apparently people are yelling about the Jews.

01:26:42.000 I don't even, of course not.

01:26:43.000 The Jews are happy.

01:26:45.000 Everyone's happy where we are.

01:26:46.000 Jews are happy.

01:26:47.000 Muslims are happy. 0.87

01:26:49.000 The things you don't see are the Jews feeding the Muslims the latkes and the Muslims making the hummus for the Jews. 0.98

01:26:54.000 You guys are seeing the bad stuff.

01:26:56.000 But we have, I mean, ooh, we have Jew and Muslim dance night every Thursday. 1.00

01:27:03.000 Like, just make shit up. 1.00

01:27:06.000 You know? 0.99

01:27:08.000 We desperately live in a time of intellectuals and we need to live in a time of business people who cut deals.

01:27:13.000 This is, again, an argument maybe for Donald Trump.

01:27:17.000 Intellectuals are rotting everything with their doublespeak and their...

01:27:24.000 What we need is people that realize the limitations of their own intellect.

01:27:28.000 Those are business people.

01:27:30.000 People that come in and go, you want something?

01:27:33.000 You want something.

01:27:35.000 Guess what?

01:27:36.000 Neither one of you is getting it.

01:27:38.000 But here's what you can get.

01:27:39.000 There's a smugness to those people, too, that's bizarre.

01:27:44.000 When the one lady was... 1.00

01:27:45.000 What university was it when the lady was smiling every time she went to answer the question and not answer them? 0.84

01:27:51.000 Thomas...

01:27:52.000 If it's actionable.

01:27:53.000 Right.

01:27:53.000 If it's actionable.

01:27:54.000 Right, if it's actionable.

01:27:55.000 If you are...

01:27:56.000 If you actually commit genocide?

01:27:57.000 Like, what are you saying?

01:27:58.000 Thomas Sowell, who's one of our great thinkers, said the thing about intellectuals, he wrote a whole book about it, they never have to be right.

01:28:04.000 Right.

01:28:05.000 If you bake pies for a living, if you are a contractor, you cannot put up a house that falls down.

01:28:10.000 You cannot poison people with a pie.

01:28:13.000 Intellectuals can be wrong all the time without consequence.

01:28:15.000 The only thing is that whatever they say has to sound good.

01:28:19.000 That's why these people at Harvard are sitting there making no sense, because they know they don't have to be right.

01:28:25.000 All of the intellectuals in the early 1900s were all on board with eugenics.

01:28:29.000 They thought it was a great idea.

01:28:31.000 Only in hindsight was it like, ugh.

01:28:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:37.000 All these intellectuals were on board with the Iraq War. 0.98

01:28:40.000 It's stunning.

01:28:41.000 Go find.

01:28:42.000 Go look at everybody writing.

01:28:45.000 People were fired from, Chris Hedges, a journalist, fired for giving an anti-war commencement speech.

01:28:51.000 Most intellectuals were on board with that.

01:28:53.000 Now they all go, ooh, we're aghast at that.

01:28:55.000 So these people at Harvard are just trying to say things that sound good.

01:29:01.000 And they're not, because they know they don't have to be right.

01:29:05.000 There's no consequence in the real world for what they say, as long as it sounds good.

01:29:16.000 So they can say, hey, it's about free speech.

01:29:20.000 They don't believe in free speech at all.

01:29:22.000 But as long as someone goes, huh, that was a well-thought-out, well-articulated point.

01:29:28.000 It doesn't matter what they're saying.

01:29:32.000 I don't know.

01:29:33.000 Well, that's clear in those conversations.

01:29:36.000 Right.

01:29:36.000 Because they're saying nutty things, like if it's actionable.

01:29:39.000 Right.

01:29:39.000 Like she's just dancing around answering.

01:29:43.000 Just say no.

01:29:44.000 That's what I would have said.

01:29:45.000 Can we say we genocided the Jews?

01:29:47.000 No. 0.75

01:29:48.000 No, that's really bad.

01:29:50.000 I go, that's bad.

01:29:51.000 That's not good.

01:29:51.000 Who's doing that?

01:29:53.000 That's what I'd say.

01:29:54.000 But here's the thing.

01:29:55.000 I go, who's doing that even?

01:29:55.000 What is the fear?

01:29:57.000 Is the fear that the students will...

01:30:01.000 Attack?

01:30:01.000 What is the fear?

01:30:03.000 The fear is...

01:30:04.000 Because on campuses, I would imagine a lot of these progressive campuses, the pro-Palestine sentiment is the strongest by far.

01:30:13.000 For sure.

01:30:14.000 By far.

01:30:14.000 For sure.

01:30:15.000 And it's probably a problem when someone has a pro-Israel stance.

01:30:20.000 They probably get swarmed.

01:30:22.000 These institutions now are fully...

01:30:26.000 They've been captured.

01:30:27.000 It's institutional capture, meaning that they don't want to say anything or do anything that gives the idea that they are backing an oppressive entity.

01:30:39.000 The colonizers.

01:30:40.000 The colonizers.

01:30:41.000 The bad guys.

01:30:43.000 The colonizers are the big ones.

01:30:44.000 So they're like, we gotta let people say whatever they want to say, and we're not gonna get...

01:30:51.000 Now, we don't want anyone getting hurt.

01:30:53.000 Maybe we'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but they're also saying we're gonna allow people to say...

01:31:00.000 You couldn't say that about trans people. 0.91

01:31:02.000 Couldn't call for the genocide of trans people.

01:31:04.000 Well, how about no one called for the genocide of Russians?

01:31:07.000 Right.

01:31:08.000 There was never death to the Russians.

01:31:10.000 Like, that's kind of wild.

01:31:12.000 No genocide calling for at school.

01:31:16.000 But that is really wild, if you think about that one.

01:31:19.000 There wasn't a similar backlash against Russians.

01:31:22.000 Because Ronald Reagan said, oh, what do you mean recently or when we had the Cold War?

01:31:26.000 Even while this is happening recently with the Ukraine-Russia thing, Russians are fine over here.

01:31:32.000 They don't have any problem.

01:31:34.000 Because we don't view the Russians as a controlling party in our society.

01:31:39.000 There's a lot of people that view the Jews as the de facto rulers of America and the controllers of America.

01:31:47.000 Interesting.

01:31:48.000 You know?

01:31:48.000 And that's, I think, the reason for it.

01:31:50.000 I don't think we look at Russians as having that type of power.

01:31:53.000 Also, the scale of Israel's response in Gaza, it dwarfs everything that's happening.

01:32:02.000 It's wild.

01:32:03.000 I think it's not.

01:32:05.000 It's foolhardy.

01:32:07.000 I think strategically...

01:32:11.000 It's going to be an issue because what are they going to do now?

01:32:13.000 They're going to have a security role in Gaza permanently?

01:32:16.000 And it seemed like there was some Kamala Harris talk where she was talking about a country that was going to rebuild it.

01:32:24.000 Right. 0.99

01:32:24.000 And they're in negotiations talking about rebuilding Gaza, which is like, hey, that's the fucking Ferris wheel. 0.99

01:32:33.000 That's the Ferris wheel. 0.98

01:32:35.000 It just keeps spinning around.

01:32:36.000 Here comes the money again.

01:32:37.000 Whee! 1.00

01:32:37.000 I feel bad. 1.00

01:32:38.000 The money's going this way now.

01:32:40.000 Halliburton.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, I feel bad for people that are victims of anti-semitism.

01:32:49.000 For sure.

01:32:50.000 And that's legit.

01:32:51.000 And especially people in colleges are probably getting the brunt of craziness.

01:32:59.000 But then there is also, you also have a thing where Every criticism of Israel can't be anti-Semitism.

01:33:07.000 That also...

01:33:09.000 Well, how about the citizens' criticism of Israel?

01:33:11.000 They were in the streets, hundreds of thousands of them for months protesting against Yahoo.

01:33:16.000 So there is room, and there has to be room to say the course of action we disagree with.

01:33:23.000 I think it's unwise for the United States to allow and fund an open-ended Engagement in Gaza.

01:33:36.000 Open-ended.

01:33:38.000 We need like two years, two months.

01:33:40.000 They're already saying that it might be beyond the tipping point of rebuilding.

01:33:45.000 They've destroyed so much.

01:33:46.000 Have you seen the footage, the recent footage?

01:33:48.000 It's crazy.

01:33:49.000 Mosques. 0.95

01:33:50.000 It's not good. 0.89

01:33:51.000 Just bombing mosques. 1.00

01:33:52.000 Bombing buildings. 0.98

01:33:54.000 It's their moment.

01:33:56.000 What we did after 9-11 did not make us safer.

01:34:00.000 And I think they're having that moment right now where there's an understandable rage.

01:34:06.000 They are upset.

01:34:07.000 Hamas has their babies and women and children. 0.99

01:34:12.000 What Hamas did was strike at the heart. 0.77

01:34:17.000 That's what terrorism does, right?

01:34:18.000 You get to the core of a human being by saying, we're going to rip away the things from you that you care about the most.

01:34:25.000 This is the emotional...

01:34:28.000 Response to that I don't know how strategic long-term it is It's terrifying and I think it's it's unfortunately When you see women and children being killed that are innocent We got to minimize that this is you know,

01:34:45.000 if not, you know, we got a we get you know, this is why When we have a modern civilization, the whole point of being a civilized country is to minimize deaths of innocent people in these types of things.

01:35:02.000 Especially like that.

01:35:03.000 Yeah.

01:35:03.000 I mean, that October 7th thing is so wild.

01:35:06.000 The music festival is fucking terrifying. 0.98

01:35:09.000 It's crazy. 0.99

01:35:10.000 No, and I understand why...

01:35:13.000 You have a situation now where Israel is in a position where they're going, well, we can't live with Hamas. 0.98

01:35:22.000 That's not going to work.

01:35:23.000 We can't live with them.

01:35:28.000 But there needs to be some two-state solution.

01:35:30.000 When I grew up, all we heard was that.

01:35:32.000 It never materialized.

01:35:34.000 It never came to fruition.

01:35:36.000 But then over the last few years, no one's talked about it.

01:35:38.000 No one's cared.

01:35:39.000 And I think it's become a situation where you have these elements, these radical elements in that society that are reacting to the very real and unending You know,

01:35:58.000 like unlivability of that situation, you know?

01:36:04.000 Gaza's unlivable.

01:36:05.000 It's not a livable situation, the situation.

01:36:09.000 So then there's going to be people that are ultimately hopeless.

01:36:14.000 And that's where terrorism comes from.

01:36:16.000 It comes from people that feel like they have zero hope.

01:36:19.000 Nobody blows himself up or engages in this type of activity because they feel like there's a myriad of options for them in life.

01:36:27.000 You know, they might be polluted with fundamentalist religion, but where does that come from? 0.86

01:36:31.000 It comes from the idea that if somebody came to me and goes, blow yourself up.

01:36:35.000 I go, I don't want to.

01:36:36.000 I have a show tonight, you know, for law enforcement.

01:36:39.000 I have whatever.

01:36:40.000 I got stuff to do.

01:36:41.000 I don't have the greatest life in the world.

01:36:43.000 I don't even have to say that.

01:36:44.000 I have a raccoon coat on.

01:36:47.000 But the point is, I'm not gonna blow myself up.

01:36:50.000 No young 19 year old person should be at a point in their life when for a religion or a political faction or a government should be thinking of doing a kamikaze mission.

01:37:04.000 So you do have to address the political conditions that Create that level of hopelessness.

01:37:13.000 You do. 0.93

01:37:14.000 That doesn't mean that anti-Semitism is okay, and that doesn't mean that at every turn you're going to be able to convert people, that if they just want to kill Jews, maybe they're just going to kill Jews. 0.97

01:37:24.000 You have to eradicate that threat.

01:37:27.000 But you have to address those political conditions that create that type of desperation in people that turns them to that type of violence.

01:37:37.000 Have you ever heard Dave Smith talk about it?

01:37:39.000 Yeah, I heard a little bit on your show.

01:37:41.000 He goes deep.

01:37:43.000 He's deep in it.

01:37:44.000 And when you look at...

01:37:47.000 When it's all laid out, you're like, oh my God, how do you fix that?

01:37:50.000 It's very hard.

01:37:52.000 Well, I believe in a crusade. 0.97

01:37:53.000 I believe my fat aunt and uncle, the Christians, take it. 1.00

01:37:58.000 They come in on a Carnival cruise ship. 0.99

01:38:00.000 They come out.

01:38:02.000 The Jews and the Arabs go, what happened? 0.99

01:38:03.000 And then Big Daddy, the originals, the Christians, the ones who used to run it, come back. 1.00

01:38:11.000 They set up Dave and Buster's.

01:38:14.000 They're in there.

01:38:15.000 They're at buffets.

01:38:16.000 My aunt's pointing at the tomb where Jesus supposedly called out of.

01:38:20.000 She's taking a photo with it and her sandals.

01:38:23.000 You know, it's very hard to imagine fixing any of this stuff.

01:38:27.000 We're going to have to learn to live with some compromises.

01:38:34.000 And I don't only mean like political compromises where we go, you get this, we get that.

01:38:38.000 There's just some compromises in life where...

01:38:41.000 We're gonna have to just understand that certain areas might be dangerous.

01:38:47.000 Yeah.

01:38:48.000 You know?

01:38:49.000 Certain areas might be dangerous.

01:38:51.000 That's what it is.

01:38:53.000 Did we fix the South Side of Chicago?

01:38:55.000 Did we fix inner city, you know, East St. Louis?

01:39:00.000 Did we fix any of those?

01:39:01.000 No, people left.

01:39:03.000 So that's unfortunately what tends to happen a lot, is people go.

01:39:10.000 So I don't know that...

01:39:12.000 But how do they get out of Gaza? 0.97

01:39:14.000 That's the problem.

01:39:15.000 That's a problem.

01:39:15.000 That's part of the problem is it's kind of an open-air prison.

01:39:19.000 That's a problem.

01:39:19.000 They're going to have to go to some of the other Arab countries.

01:39:21.000 Are the other Arab countries taking Gaza refugees?

01:39:24.000 No.

01:39:25.000 Not a lot of them.

01:39:27.000 That seems like...

01:39:28.000 They should take some.

01:39:29.000 But again, I don't want refugees. 1.00

01:39:30.000 I almost agree with them there.

01:39:32.000 It's like, I don't want refugees. 1.00

01:39:35.000 If my family started calling me going, hey, our pipes froze, I'd go, oh, I'm sad.

01:39:43.000 That's horrible.

01:39:45.000 Wow.

01:39:46.000 Beat the hotel again, huh?

01:39:48.000 Well, we figured you got a house in there.

01:39:50.000 What?

01:39:53.000 It's a limit to the refugee game.

01:39:54.000 That was one of the funniest things about the New York crisis.

01:39:58.000 They were asking people to take them into their homes.

01:40:00.000 No.

01:40:00.000 What are you talking about?

01:40:02.000 Some guy who walked over here from Guatemala and he's going to sleep with your kids? 0.98

01:40:05.000 It's crazy.

01:40:06.000 What are you saying?

01:40:07.000 Do you know that guy?

01:40:08.000 Is he cool?

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 Here's the thing, and I know this is going to sound horrible because I think even if Jesus were to come back, he would even say, enough with the refugees.

01:40:19.000 I think, you know, we got to not fuck up the whole world and then take them all in.

01:40:25.000 Like this writer Steve Saylor said, he had a great quote, invade the world, invite the world. 0.80

01:40:30.000 Can't do it. 0.60

01:40:31.000 We can't go around fucking everything up and then all these people show up and we go, well, we owe them. 0.81

01:40:36.000 I don't know.

01:40:37.000 I didn't do it.

01:40:39.000 I didn't bomb them.

01:40:41.000 Well, you're tax dollars.

01:40:42.000 It's like, we have to stop letting people destabilize all these countries and then let them in. 1.00

01:40:47.000 We have floods of refugees in Europe.

01:40:49.000 Why do you think the refugees are coming in from the southern border like they are?

01:40:53.000 Why do you think they're allowing that to happen?

01:40:54.000 It's economic migration, and the reason is that a lot of these business owners and rich people benefit from cheap labor.

01:41:01.000 They want gardeners. 1.00

01:41:02.000 They want nannies. 1.00

01:41:03.000 They want chefs. 0.97

01:41:04.000 They want people doing their nails. 0.92

01:41:05.000 They want...

01:41:06.000 Do you think they've thought of that?

01:41:08.000 Of course.

01:41:09.000 Let's let them in so they can do our nails? 1.00

01:41:10.000 Of course!

01:41:11.000 They don't want to pay American wages.

01:41:14.000 If you can hire someone at $3 an hour or whatever it is, off the books, illegal labor.

01:41:18.000 You know how many construction projects go up with illegal labor?

01:41:22.000 You know how many of these construction projects in Miami?

01:41:24.000 They're building like 20 new towers in Miami with floating bathtubs for Bitcoin criminals.

01:41:30.000 And God only knows, the Paul brothers, and God bless everybody.

01:41:34.000 I like them.

01:41:34.000 But they're building all these big, big towers in Miami.

01:41:38.000 How's that?

01:41:38.000 I'm not doing it.

01:41:40.000 It's illegal labor.

01:41:41.000 Is it really?

01:41:42.000 Oh, yeah!

01:41:43.000 Now, DeSantis shut that down, and all the construction projects are grinding to a halt.

01:41:49.000 Because there's a lot of illegal labor being used in putting up certain buildings.

01:41:54.000 Really?

01:41:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:58.000 Wow.

01:41:59.000 This is a huge part.

01:42:01.000 This is what...

01:42:02.000 Or we're to believe that the people living in Greenwich, Connecticut love El Salvadorians.

01:42:07.000 It's one of the two.

01:42:09.000 It's one of the two.

01:42:10.000 It's either that they're benefiting financially from it or there's a housewife in Greenwich going, you know, I'd love an Arepa.

01:42:17.000 New Florida immigration rules start to strain some businesses.

01:42:21.000 Some employers say they were losing workers because of the new law, which is championed by Governor Ron DeSantis.

01:42:27.000 And look at this photo.

01:42:28.000 A dude roofing a house.

01:42:30.000 Building a house.

01:42:32.000 We have this massive housing boom that was enabled not only by the low interest rates, but by you have to have people to build these houses.

01:42:41.000 What do you think D.H. Horton, all these companies, like, they don't admit to it.

01:42:45.000 So how do you mitigate that?

01:42:47.000 So you think that's literally why they're letting everyone in?

01:42:50.000 You don't think it has anything to do with voting?

01:42:52.000 Yes, it has a lot to do with voting.

01:42:53.000 It has to do with...

01:42:56.000 Certain demographics are better for the Democrat Party, and we know that.

01:42:59.000 However, Republicans up until recently...

01:43:03.000 Didn't care that much because they thought they could turn Latinos Republican, and some of them will. 0.99

01:43:09.000 Some of the Latinos are Catholics, and they go, we don't want to do gender monopoly and gender musical chairs or whatever games they're playing over there. 1.00

01:43:17.000 We're going to stick with, and a lot of Latinos don't vote. 0.99

01:43:20.000 So you have a large percentage of people that don't subscribe to the political system's bullshit. 0.99

01:43:25.000 Who cares? 0.99

01:43:25.000 Well, also, you have the Biden administration sending people back from Venezuela. 0.99

01:43:30.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 Venezuela people who escaped the communist government.

01:43:33.000 Yeah.

01:43:33.000 They were Republican.

01:43:34.000 Get out of here.

01:43:35.000 You gotta go.

01:43:36.000 So they don't want to let more Cubans in from Miami. 1.00

01:43:39.000 No.

01:43:41.000 But I think the economic interests of these people are we can bring in people that will do the work for nothing.

01:43:48.000 The Tyson chicken raid.

01:43:50.000 This was the big thing.

01:43:51.000 The immigration, the raid that whatever ICE or whoever did on the Tyson chicken factory.

01:43:56.000 This is a big story during Trump's term.

01:44:00.000 They raided that.

01:44:01.000 African American unemployment dried up in the months after that because the Tyson Chicken Factory had to hire Americans.

01:44:09.000 So when these companies are forced to hire Americans and pay American wages, they do. 0.92

01:44:15.000 But until they're forced to do that, they're going to rely on largely...

01:44:24.000 Illegal, unregulated labor.

01:44:27.000 And that's in their personal lives and private lives.

01:44:31.000 So if you can hire a landscaping company to come to your Hamptons house, or your house in Bel Air, or Greenwich, or here, wherever.

01:44:39.000 It's beautiful places here, though.

01:44:40.000 But it seems like such an insane strategy to just keep the border open. 0.99

01:44:45.000 It seems like such a fucking dangerous move. 0.99

01:44:48.000 Chicken plants lured them. 0.99

01:44:49.000 Feds jailed them.

01:44:50.000 How Mississippi's immigration crisis unfolded.

01:44:53.000 Ah, the chicken factories.

01:44:55.000 Undocumented workers were once considered an acceptable part of our economy.

01:44:59.000 Now they are demonized.

01:45:02.000 Interesting.

01:45:03.000 Hmm.

01:45:04.000 And again, I'm not saying like this is a great thing to do these raids and obviously there's human costs, but what tends to happen when you lose illegal labor, you have to hire Americans and they don't want to do that. 0.53

01:45:18.000 Why is the Chamber of Commerce pro-immigration?

01:45:20.000 Why are the Koch brothers open borders advocates?

01:45:24.000 Is it because David Koch loves people from Central America, or is it because he wants to drive down the cost of wages?

01:45:32.000 He believes in a market rate, and a market rate is, hey, anyone will do it.

01:45:37.000 This is the problem with kind of that libertarian type of philosophy.

01:45:40.000 It just doesn't work if you import the third world to America. 1.00

01:45:45.000 Right.

01:45:45.000 That doesn't really work, because then you're setting wages.

01:45:48.000 People on Park Avenue in Manhattan go, yeah, yeah, yeah, what does that guy want?

01:45:51.000 $4?

01:45:52.000 Let's find someone to do it for $2.50. 0.98

01:45:54.000 So is this idea to try to compete with other countries that do this?

01:45:59.000 Like China?

01:46:00.000 That is one of the ideas.

01:46:01.000 The other idea is to get a ninth sailboat.

01:46:04.000 Yeah.

01:46:04.000 It's people that go...

01:46:07.000 Where are profits?

01:46:08.000 How can we...

01:46:09.000 Maximize.

01:46:10.000 Maximize these profits?

01:46:11.000 What's the bottleneck?

01:46:12.000 How can we maximize?

01:46:13.000 How can we put up...

01:46:14.000 We have a cheap labor bottleneck.

01:46:15.000 How can we put up a hundred houses for just the material cost and a minute labor cost? 0.72

01:46:24.000 And what do you think about...

01:46:26.000 There's a real...

01:46:27.000 I think there's a bill that just got brought up where they're trying to stop these companies from buying up Houses.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, BlackRock and all those things.

01:46:37.000 Yeah, and they're trying to stop them from doing that because they think that they're controlling the housing market. 0.66

01:46:41.000 Yeah, it's pricing single-family homes.

01:46:46.000 These are the big problem.

01:46:47.000 The big problem is single-family homes.

01:46:50.000 Hedge funds have invaded the housing market.

01:46:53.000 A new bill would ban them.

01:46:55.000 A sweeping new bill introduced in Congress would essentially ban hedge funds and private equity firms from buying single-family homes.

01:47:02.000 There you go.

01:47:03.000 This is interesting.

01:47:04.000 Yeah, this price is out a lot of people.

01:47:07.000 You think they're going to vote on this?

01:47:08.000 This seems like one that's going to be very interesting to see how they vote.

01:47:13.000 Well, it's going to be interesting.

01:47:14.000 Bill, which was introduced to both the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday, would, over a 10-year period, require hedge funds and large institutional investors to completely divest from single-family home ownership.

01:47:26.000 Called the End Hedge Fund Control of American Homes Act, the bill would require large funds to sell off 10% of their homes each year over a decade.

01:47:37.000 Well, basically what they want to do is create a nation of renters.

01:47:41.000 How do you feel about this, though?

01:47:42.000 How do you feel about a ban?

01:47:44.000 Well, there's a lot of people that own those houses that are not going to be happy with a ban because they want BlackRock coming in and giving them more money than the house is worth.

01:47:52.000 How much more do they give them?

01:47:54.000 They can give them 30% above.

01:47:57.000 Really?

01:47:58.000 Which is money.

01:47:59.000 And then they just lease those homes out.

01:48:01.000 And they lease them out.

01:48:02.000 It's part of this idea that...

01:48:04.000 Home ownership and automobile ownership and all of these things, you know, eventually are going to be replaced by more effect.

01:48:14.000 You know, Whitney Webb is somebody I've had on my show, and she's wild.

01:48:17.000 She's wild.

01:48:18.000 But she knows her stuff.

01:48:20.000 You know, Patrick David had her on, and when she came on my show, she made a lot of great points about these legacy systems that people want to get rid of.

01:48:27.000 And they go, rent a house.

01:48:30.000 Use Uber, Lyft, whatever.

01:48:33.000 You don't need to own...

01:48:35.000 What does owning do for you?

01:48:36.000 That's that famous article, you'll own nothing and be happy.

01:48:40.000 So I think the band would sort of put the brakes on that, I guess.

01:48:48.000 The problem is...

01:48:50.000 A lot of these companies find ways around these bands.

01:48:53.000 You've got to remember, these are the smartest people in America that become, and I don't mean smart like contemplative intellectuals.

01:49:00.000 I mean shrewd, effective sociopaths.

01:49:04.000 They're really adept.

01:49:05.000 When I say smart, I don't want people going, you think that.

01:49:07.000 I don't mean that.

01:49:08.000 I mean they're very effective at gaming the system.

01:49:12.000 They're 10 steps ahead of all these laws that are being passed.

01:49:14.000 I'm not saying it's a bad thing to pass the laws, but a lot of these people are already anticipating that and then how to get around it.

01:49:21.000 I'm fascinated to see how that bill does.

01:49:24.000 Yeah.

01:49:24.000 Because it seems like they would put extraordinary pressure to make sure that that bill does not get passed.

01:49:28.000 They're not going to allow that bill to get passed.

01:49:31.000 It seems like you're going to find out who's on board and who's not on board.

01:49:33.000 Well, again, when RFK came on my show and called out BlackRock Vanguard, I know we did it on your show too, BlackRock Vanguard and State Street as these companies that own everything.

01:49:42.000 You know, I got a lot of messages from a lot of financial people going, well, everybody's portfolio is tied up in that.

01:49:49.000 This is part of the whole issue with everything.

01:49:52.000 It's the Thomas Sowell thing.

01:49:54.000 There's no solutions, there's only trade-offs.

01:49:57.000 It's hard to get honest at this deep in the scam.

01:50:04.000 That is our financial system.

01:50:06.000 It's like hard...

01:50:07.000 Any deleveraging, any winding down of the military-industrial complex, all of this will have ramifications in our society, financially for people, across the board.

01:50:20.000 Anything you want to...

01:50:22.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't attempt to do it, but anything like this.

01:50:26.000 You go, I don't like illegal immigration. 0.84

01:50:28.000 It's like, okay, your house has more money now.

01:50:30.000 You go, oh...

01:50:32.000 They go, okay, I don't want Chinese people buying real estate. 1.00

01:50:36.000 Okay, well maybe, and you know, maybe the, you know, Real estate industry is going to take a hit.

01:50:44.000 Not only realtors, but people that work in that business, right?

01:50:48.000 Property managers, interior designers, architects, people that stage homes, appraiser, whatever it is, people might take a hit.

01:50:58.000 This is part of the issue of where we're at now.

01:51:01.000 You ban BlackRock and all those things from getting in there.

01:51:04.000 That's fine.

01:51:05.000 And then, you know, people will take a hit.

01:51:09.000 financially with their portfolios.

01:51:12.000 But do you think that they...

01:51:13.000 How many people have to vote yes on this?

01:51:16.000 Like how many people are involved in this decision?

01:51:19.000 Well, it would have to pass two houses of Congress and then get signed into law by the president.

01:51:23.000 Now that seems very unlikely.

01:51:25.000 It's wild.

01:51:26.000 Seems very unlikely because BlackRock will have a great argument as to why they're helping people. 0.97

01:51:31.000 They'll get out there and they'll be like, hey man, We're here, and we're buying these fucking houses, and the people that we're buying them from love us. 0.97

01:51:43.000 The boomers love BlackRock. 0.99

01:51:46.000 The boomers will get on a BlackRock cruise with BlackRock shirts. 0.99

01:51:51.000 One of the problems in the American real estate market is boomers will not sell their houses for anything under a $1.6 million profit. 0.91

01:52:00.000 They just won't.

01:52:01.000 They won't, because they like to lord them.

01:52:03.000 They like to lord around them.

01:52:05.000 They like to make their kids feel guilty.

01:52:07.000 They like to go, you could never afford it.

01:52:09.000 They like to tell you how cheap the house was when they bought it.

01:52:13.000 And then, every Thanksgiving or Christmas, somebody will go, pick this up for 200 grand.

01:52:18.000 Now it's worth one eight.

01:52:20.000 And then it's their millennial kids are sitting there, saddled with student loan debt.

01:52:23.000 And the boomers are big. 1.00

01:52:24.000 It's their last fuck you before they leave the planet. 1.00

01:52:27.000 They're a spiteful generation of monsters. 1.00

01:52:29.000 I respect it. 1.00

01:52:31.000 But their last fuck you before they leave the planet is instead of selling their houses for, I don't know, a $900,000 profit, they just won't put them on the market. 0.98

01:52:40.000 Some boomers, which is hilarious, we read the articles on my show, they're actually retiring to bigger houses. 0.99

01:52:46.000 They're sizing up.

01:52:47.000 It's sick.

01:52:49.000 It's like insane.

01:52:51.000 And so that becomes an issue, too, of like, you know, it used to be like you would have a house, the kids would move, you'd stay in it probably for another 10 or 20 years, and then you'd get a condo.

01:53:01.000 And you'd go, I'm out. 0.94

01:53:03.000 What the fuck do I want to mow lawn for? 0.99

01:53:06.000 Now the boomers are going, this is the only thing we have? 1.00

01:53:12.000 That makes us truly valuable in society is that we own this like a McMansion.

01:53:19.000 And we're not giving this up.

01:53:21.000 We are taxpaying citizens and we are not giving this up.

01:53:25.000 And our kids are going to come here every year and they're going to suffer through the size of our house with nine empty bedrooms while they live in a two-bedroom apartment and we're going to chastise them for their decisions.

01:53:38.000 And their choices.

01:53:39.000 And the McMansion defines you.

01:53:41.000 And your car that you drive up to the McMansion Inn, all that defines you.

01:53:45.000 Where are you vacationing?

01:53:47.000 That's right.

01:53:47.000 Where are you going?

01:53:48.000 That's right.

01:53:49.000 And they're going to go, they're going to go, they're going to go.

01:53:52.000 Because they all bought those houses for very little money, and they are going to hold them over everybody's houses until they are found dead in them.

01:54:03.000 They will not leave those houses until they're taken out in an ambulance.

01:54:09.000 The boomer, the most important thing for the boomer is to be right.

01:54:14.000 And that's their main thing.

01:54:16.000 They're not a soulful group.

01:54:18.000 They've been around forever, but they've attained very little wisdom.

01:54:21.000 It's actually kind of impressive.

01:54:23.000 They're the most American generation of people that have ever lived. 0.98

01:54:25.000 They're deeply selfish, self-aggrandizing, paranoid, delusional.

01:54:29.000 But one of the things that makes them right is what they have.

01:54:33.000 They go, well, how can I be wrong? 1.00

01:54:35.000 Look at this fucking house. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Look where we're sitting. 1.00

01:54:39.000 I've got 13-foot ceilings.

01:54:40.000 Don't tell me you know about Gaza.

01:54:43.000 You don't!

01:54:44.000 I have to pee so bad I can't hold it anymore.

01:54:46.000 I didn't want to stop your rant.

01:54:47.000 Let's pee.

01:54:48.000 Let's come back.

01:54:48.000 Okay.

01:54:49.000 I don't know.

01:54:50.000 It might be microdressing.

01:54:51.000 Here's some brownies that'll send you to a new place. 0.99

01:54:54.000 I think I'm allowed to do psychedelics.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, why not?

01:54:57.000 I think I'm allowed.

01:54:58.000 What are you afraid of?

01:54:59.000 I don't know.

01:55:00.000 I don't think it's the Coke.

01:55:01.000 No.

01:55:02.000 No.

01:55:02.000 It's like the opposite.

01:55:03.000 Nobody does shrooms and yells about the importance of Donald Rumsfeld.

01:55:08.000 Did you do that?

01:55:09.000 I mean...

01:55:11.000 I never got the point of any...

01:55:12.000 Like, I would do acid and then go around to Garden City Hotel and be like, you know, these people have made it.

01:55:18.000 Like, I totally didn't.

01:55:20.000 Whatever was out there, whatever deeper lessons about the universe I should have learned, I did not.

01:55:24.000 You were young.

01:55:26.000 You were also...

01:55:27.000 New York City comic just passed away very sad.

01:55:30.000 A guy, Kenny DeForest, who was like a really funny guy who was a really good guy, too, and he was driving his bike in New York City. 0.99

01:55:37.000 And it's a fucking... 0.99

01:55:40.000 Life is just, it's like crazy. 1.00

01:55:43.000 He got hit by a car.

01:55:44.000 He got hit by a car.

01:55:45.000 I heard about that.

01:55:46.000 I heard that he was hospitalized.

01:55:47.000 And we're all like putting, you know, raising money and stuff.

01:55:50.000 And it's like, you know, it's tough.

01:55:54.000 It's tough because he was a great prey.

01:55:56.000 It's tough. 1.00

01:55:56.000 Life's a fucking nightmare. 1.00

01:55:59.000 Sometimes. 1.00

01:56:00.000 Yeah, sometimes.

01:56:01.000 That's when you hope that there is a mechanism by which...

01:56:08.000 You know, there is whatever you want to call it.

01:56:11.000 An afterlife thing.

01:56:13.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 Where there's something makes sense because it's hard when you look at things like that.

01:56:19.000 You get very frustrated with life.

01:56:22.000 Yeah.

01:56:22.000 You know?

01:56:23.000 And then there's the inevitability of our own demise.

01:56:26.000 Right.

01:56:27.000 Well, not yours, but mine, for sure.

01:56:30.000 They'll put you in some suit and fly you out of there.

01:56:33.000 Your demise is not as inevitable as your friend's.

01:56:37.000 You'll wave to us.

01:56:39.000 And then you'll call us from the spaceship and go, I'm trying to work out some type of deal here for some of you.

01:56:45.000 I'm the last dude who's going to get on that ship.

01:56:48.000 I'm going to stay right here.

01:56:49.000 No, I feel like you won't.

01:56:50.000 I feel like you'll just be like, hey, ma'am.

01:56:53.000 No thanks.

01:56:53.000 I'm not interested.

01:56:55.000 It doesn't seem fun up there.

01:56:56.000 I think it's a mistake.

01:56:58.000 I think it's one of those things, like I said, just because something's hard to do doesn't mean it's good to do.

01:57:02.000 You know?

01:57:03.000 I think it's the people trying to make their way across.

01:57:06.000 You ever see that show 1883?

01:57:08.000 It's one of the prequels to Yellowstone.

01:57:09.000 Yeah.

01:57:10.000 Barbaric.

01:57:11.000 It's a really wild, wild show.

01:57:13.000 But it's that times a million.

01:57:15.000 Like, you're gonna land on some planet.

01:57:16.000 It's gonna be no air. 1.00

01:57:17.000 You're fucked. 1.00

01:57:18.000 Would you go up in a... 1.00

01:57:20.000 Maybe.

01:57:20.000 ...to just take a look?

01:57:22.000 Maybe.

01:57:22.000 That would be cool.

01:57:23.000 I saw Shachner did it, you know, Jeff Bezos and that, you know, went up in the...

01:57:27.000 Was it called Deep Blue?

01:57:29.000 Was that his spaceship?

01:57:29.000 Something like that.

01:57:30.000 Yeah, I mean, maybe.

01:57:32.000 Maybe, but I don't think so.

01:57:33.000 Seems safer than going to the bottom of the ocean.

01:57:35.000 Much safer.

01:57:36.000 That was a tough one.

01:57:37.000 That's submersible.

01:57:39.000 Go see the Titanic.

01:57:41.000 They sent the distress signal and then it just...

01:57:44.000 That's tough.

01:57:46.000 Did you ever see the CGI recreation of what would happen with that amount of pressure when the hole gives in?

01:57:53.000 It goes...

01:57:54.000 It's just like...

01:57:54.000 You explode.

01:57:55.000 It's an explosion.

01:57:57.000 You almost don't feel it, right?

01:57:58.000 Oh, you don't feel it.

01:57:59.000 You're gone.

01:57:59.000 You're gone instantaneously.

01:58:01.000 You're mist.

01:58:03.000 You turn into pink mist.

01:58:04.000 Boom.

01:58:06.000 I mean, it's just the force of an insane amount of weight.

01:58:10.000 Yeah.

01:58:11.000 You're covered by an insane amount of mass.

01:58:17.000 The water is so deep. 1.00

01:58:19.000 That's so much fucking weight, man. 0.99

01:58:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:58:24.000 It's so crazy.

01:58:24.000 It's such a crazy thing to do with your dad.

01:58:28.000 Well, it's a crazy thing to do with your son.

01:58:30.000 Right, that's a good point.

01:58:31.000 It's probably the billionaire dad's idea.

01:58:34.000 That's right. 1.00

01:58:34.000 That wild, crazy old fuck. 1.00

01:58:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:58:36.000 He wanted to take his kid down and just, like, let's experience something wild. 1.00

01:58:40.000 Let's go on an adventure.

01:58:42.000 That's the thing about the boomers. 0.99

01:58:43.000 That's why they're here forever, is because they're just like, let's have lunch.

01:58:48.000 So this is the recreation of what it must have looked like.

01:58:53.000 So look how far that went down.

01:58:55.000 Look how scary that is.

01:58:56.000 That's brutal.

01:58:56.000 Look how scary that is.

01:58:58.000 3,800 meters.

01:59:01.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy.

01:59:06.000 That's what it says, right?

01:59:07.000 3,800 meters.

01:59:09.000 Oh my god.

01:59:09.000 And they're sitting just like that.

01:59:11.000 Yeah, they're just sitting in this fucking stupid tube. 1.00

01:59:13.000 Possible breakpoint. 1.00

01:59:15.000 And this is what would happen.

01:59:16.000 And how fast it would be.

01:59:17.000 And look at this.

01:59:19.000 It's just...

01:59:20.000 Boom.

01:59:24.000 20 milliseconds.

01:59:26.000 Brain pain response is 150 milliseconds.

01:59:29.000 You don't even have a chance.

01:59:30.000 Real time.

01:59:31.000 Boom.

01:59:32.000 That's it.

01:59:33.000 Gone.

01:59:34.000 Slow-mo.

01:59:38.000 And they found it, right?

01:59:39.000 That is what happened.

01:59:40.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:59:41.000 They found pieces of shit that are left from behind it after it implodes. 1.00

01:59:46.000 Fucking insane, man. 1.00

01:59:48.000 Look at the bodies. 1.00

01:59:49.000 Watch what happens here.

01:59:51.000 Imagine that experience.

01:59:55.000 Just...

01:59:56.000 missed.

01:59:56.000 Let me ask you, do you think that fully shut down the industry of people going to see the Titanic?

02:00:02.000 No.

02:00:02.000 Or is it just giving people the opportunity to say, hey, we're doing it better?

02:00:07.000 We can do better.

02:00:08.000 That's the great thing about American capitalism.

02:00:10.000 There's definitely somebody going, hey...

02:00:13.000 That was a blessing in disguise because we are able, we have a luxury vessel now, and we have solved all of the problems.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, there's no problems now.

02:00:22.000 In fact, the president is going today.

02:00:25.000 He's going to see the Titanic.

02:00:27.000 It is perfectly safe.

02:00:29.000 Sadly, when those things happen, it gives us the ability.

02:00:32.000 I could even sell these things.

02:00:33.000 I'm like, yeah, it gives us the ability to just get better at what we do.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, I mean, this is the Jurassic Park argument.

02:00:40.000 Yeah.

02:00:41.000 Don't you want to see the Titanic?

02:00:43.000 A few people died, but we, those dinosaurs were, you know, it was an early prototype.

02:00:48.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 It is an unfortunate situation where you have probably, I hope they got to see it.

02:01:00.000 The Titanic?

02:01:01.000 They didn't.

02:01:02.000 Oh.

02:01:03.000 Do we know that?

02:01:03.000 They got far enough down.

02:01:05.000 I think they died on the way down. 0.99

02:01:07.000 That sucks. 0.99

02:01:08.000 Didn't they, Jamie? 0.99

02:01:10.000 I don't think they made it.

02:01:11.000 And even if you get down there, by the way, you're looking at the Titanic through screens.

02:01:15.000 Who cares?

02:01:16.000 It's a shipwreck.

02:01:17.000 You could look at it in the same way above there.

02:01:20.000 It's just you're close to it physically.

02:01:21.000 So you're like, oh my god, I can't believe we're all the way down here.

02:01:23.000 Yeah, it to me is like, who cares?

02:01:25.000 I'm not impressed.

02:01:27.000 If somebody told me that, if I was at a party or dinner and somebody went, I went down and I saw the Titanic, I'd go, oh, I would not even ask a follow-up.

02:01:35.000 Right.

02:01:36.000 Who cares?

02:01:37.000 Yeah.

02:01:37.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:37.000 Good for you.

02:01:38.000 Did you really?

02:01:39.000 Ooh, death tourism.

02:01:40.000 Oh, great.

02:01:40.000 Death tourism?

02:01:41.000 Yeah, who cares?

02:01:42.000 It's a psychopath thing to say, by the way.

02:01:45.000 Yeah.

02:01:45.000 It's a crazy thing to say.

02:01:47.000 Go like, me and my dad went to see the Titanic.

02:01:49.000 It's like, that's not getting you laid.

02:01:52.000 That's crazy stuff.

02:01:53.000 Well, the first people that go to the moon and go to a moon base...

02:01:57.000 Right.

02:01:58.000 That's gonna be a wild one.

02:01:59.000 That'll be fun.

02:01:59.000 There's gonna be a lot of that, like really wealthy people that decide to go to the moon.

02:02:03.000 It's probably gonna be like 50 million bucks.

02:02:05.000 I think a little space tourism could be fun, but there's gonna be accidents.

02:02:08.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:09.000 Oh yeah, we're gonna lose some billionaires.

02:02:11.000 There's gonna be people that go.

02:02:13.000 Yeah, if we decide to go to the moon and we set up a hotel on the moon, we're going to lose a few people.

02:02:18.000 How close is the planet that's closest to us that can sustain life?

02:02:23.000 We don't know.

02:02:24.000 That's a good question.

02:02:25.000 I think they're all really far, like years at light speed.

02:02:29.000 So we're not getting anywhere?

02:02:32.000 It depends on what kind of propulsion system we have currently available.

02:02:36.000 See, what we're using now is all, we light things on fire and it pushes us forward.

02:02:43.000 Like I was saying about the rocket ships, every time they go up, how much carbon are they burning? 0.96

02:02:47.000 What the fuck are they doing?

02:02:48.000 How much of that is affecting? 0.99

02:02:50.000 If we're trying to stop global warming, what are we doing shooting rockets?

02:02:54.000 What's the big deal here? 0.98

02:02:57.000 If they can develop some new propulsion system, and I think, this is my theory, I think that's what all this UAP shit is all about. 0.98

02:03:07.000 What's UAP? Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 0.97

02:03:11.000 It's a new way of saying UFO. When you're hearing all these disclosure talks and all this stuff, I think two things are happening simultaneously.

02:03:20.000 I think it's highly likely that there is intelligent life that's aware of us from somewhere else, and I bet they visited, and I would if I was them.

02:03:27.000 I also think that the government probably has in its possession some new form of propulsion that it uses for drones that is insanely sophisticated and above and beyond what we think is currently available.

02:03:42.000 Some Gravity-based propulsion system, and that's what a lot of these pilots are seeing.

02:03:48.000 That's why these things move in ways that no one has ever seen before.

02:03:51.000 That's why they can go into the ocean.

02:03:53.000 That's why they can shoot through the sky.

02:03:54.000 I think they're some kind of wacky drone that we've developed.

02:03:58.000 It's probably true.

02:04:00.000 When they're telling you it's aliens, that's the moment I stopped thinking it's aliens.

02:04:07.000 It's aliens all the way up until the government starts talking about aliens.

02:04:11.000 Yeah, that's a great point. 1.00

02:04:11.000 You're all in on aliens, and then when they're like, hey, it's aliens, we're like, fuck you, it's not aliens. 1.00

02:04:16.000 I'm like, nah. 1.00

02:04:17.000 There's no way you're being honest with us.

02:04:18.000 Oh, we've just decided to be honest with you.

02:04:20.000 For the first time?

02:04:21.000 Right.

02:04:21.000 Yeah.

02:04:22.000 If it was aliens and they did have aliens, they would say it was their shit. 0.99

02:04:25.000 They're just trying to, I guess you're right, just kind of see what this technology can do. 0.99

02:04:31.000 Also, it's a great way to get people off your trail.

02:04:35.000 If you just say, look, there's aliens.

02:04:38.000 We have no idea where these crafts are coming from.

02:04:41.000 They're from other worlds.

02:04:42.000 These planets that can sustain life, that are...

02:04:47.000 Light years away that we're unable to reach.

02:04:50.000 Let's find out where the closest one is.

02:04:51.000 Yeah, where is this planet?

02:04:52.000 Where is the closest planet that's in the Goldilocks zone?

02:04:55.000 They found, like they had this one planet, I think they were trying to call it Earth 2 or something like that.

02:05:01.000 But it's theorized because we don't really have the actual ability to get to that planet and like have high speed drones that get, you know, a high definition video.

02:05:13.000 See the atmosphere.

02:05:14.000 See the atmosphere.

02:05:15.000 Did you ever see that?

02:05:16.000 Which one of the alien movies was it where they landed on this planet?

02:05:20.000 One of the more recent ones.

02:05:22.000 The nearest potentially habitable planet to Earth.

02:05:26.000 14 light years away.

02:05:28.000 So if we can go at the speed of light, it's 14 years to get there.

02:05:33.000 Wow.

02:05:34.000 The planet more than four times the mass of Earth is one of three that the team detected around a red dwarf star.

02:05:40.000 But here's the problem.

02:05:42.000 That means if it's four times the mass of Earth, that means it's four times the gravity of Earth, right?

02:05:47.000 Doesn't that mean that?

02:05:48.000 Is that direct?

02:05:49.000 Is it one-to-one like that?

02:05:50.000 I don't know if that's one-to-one.

02:05:52.000 Because the moon is one-quarter the size of Earth, but it has one-sixth Earth's gravity.

02:05:58.000 And there's probably life on that planet.

02:06:02.000 There could be.

02:06:03.000 I would imagine there had to be something.

02:06:05.000 Well, it depends.

02:06:06.000 I don't even know if we know what it's composed of.

02:06:11.000 It says a particularly exciting find because all three planets are of low enough mass to be potentially rocky and have a solid surface.

02:06:20.000 Potentially.

02:06:21.000 But it also could be a gas giant.

02:06:23.000 And the middle planet, Wolf 1061c, sits within the Goldilocks zone where it might be possible for liquid water.

02:06:30.000 Might be possible.

02:06:31.000 And maybe even life to exist.

02:06:34.000 Yeah.

02:06:35.000 So we'd be talking about a 14-year journey- At light speed.

02:06:38.000 Right.

02:06:39.000 If we could go the speed of light.

02:06:40.000 And we can't go the speed of light.

02:06:41.000 We can't even come close.

02:06:42.000 Unless these gravity propulsion systems are legitimate, in which case you could kind of go anywhere instantaneously.

02:06:49.000 The idea of this, the way it's been described by people like Bob Lazar, who supposedly worked on back engineering these spaceships- Right.

02:06:57.000 Is that it's like if you had a very soft mattress and you put an immense heavy bowling ball in the center of a mattress, it would push the mattress down.

02:07:05.000 So it like uses the gravity to push space-time to that spot where it wants to be.

02:07:13.000 Yeah.

02:07:14.000 And then it unfolds again.

02:07:15.000 It sounds insane.

02:07:17.000 It's insane and it's beyond our comprehension, my comprehension. 0.93

02:07:21.000 It sounds totally like science fiction nonsense.

02:07:25.000 But what is happening, I think, is that, I mean, you know, you could imagine if DARPA was talking about the stealth bomber and things like that, you know, in the 70s or whatever.

02:07:37.000 Imagine what they're talking about now.

02:07:39.000 Eric Weinstein has some very interesting ideas about it.

02:07:41.000 And he thinks there's a separate branch of physics that has been secretly working on things.

02:07:48.000 He points this one obscure university in New York State.

02:07:52.000 Hogwarts?

02:07:53.000 No, it's different.

02:07:55.000 It has an insane physics department, like completely unqualified physics department.

02:07:59.000 And it's also connected to this hedge fund that does like Bernie Madoff type numbers.

02:08:05.000 Yeah, there's gotta be.

02:08:05.000 Where everybody's like, what is going on here?

02:08:07.000 Yeah.

02:08:07.000 There's got to be something going on.

02:08:08.000 Listen, the things that we're unaware of are vast.

02:08:15.000 And also, there's probably a lot of these billionaires privately funding stuff.

02:08:18.000 The government's getting in.

02:08:19.000 Everybody's kind of getting in.

02:08:20.000 That's kind of the book I'm reading where they're trying to create fake people, AI people.

02:08:26.000 This is a news network.

02:08:27.000 This is what they're doing.

02:08:31.000 It's all very creepy.

02:08:34.000 And none of it seems like it's all going to be good.

02:08:38.000 It's not stable.

02:08:40.000 When they were creating penicillin, we're like, oh, we get it.

02:08:42.000 You get sick, here's the medicine.

02:08:44.000 This is odd.

02:08:46.000 This does not have a practical application that...

02:08:50.000 It tends towards, oh, that's going to be great.

02:08:52.000 Not good for truth.

02:08:53.000 No.

02:08:54.000 Yeah.

02:08:54.000 The Sam Altman thing was really interesting to me because I had him on the podcast.

02:08:59.000 Open AI. Yeah.

02:08:59.000 Very interesting guy.

02:09:00.000 And then he gets kicked out of the company and then they bring him back.

02:09:04.000 And then there was this talk that he wasn't straightforward.

02:09:07.000 And, you know, many people speculated that they think that Chad GPT has reached the standard to be considered AG. Yeah.

02:09:14.000 Like artificial general intelligence.

02:09:17.000 AGI. Right.

02:09:18.000 Which means it's alive. 1.00

02:09:20.000 It means you have this fucking thinking, calculating life form. 0.99

02:09:24.000 And Sam Altman left the company. 0.99

02:09:26.000 They brought him back.

02:09:27.000 They kicked him out.

02:09:28.000 I'm going to tell everybody about this.

02:09:29.000 No, no, no.

02:09:30.000 They kicked him out.

02:09:31.000 Interesting.

02:09:31.000 The board removed him and then brought him back on.

02:09:34.000 I don't know what happened.

02:09:35.000 I bet something happened.

02:09:36.000 Well, the thing is that they were saying that he wasn't being forthcoming or something to those, you know, something that sounds like that.

02:09:43.000 They know what's going on.

02:09:46.000 It's going to happen.

02:09:48.000 It's going to happen.

02:09:49.000 All the AI companies are moving to San Fran.

02:09:52.000 A lot of the big AI companies are moving to San Fran.

02:09:55.000 Giannis Papas used ChatGPT to show that SNL stole from him.

02:10:01.000 Interesting.

02:10:01.000 He asked ChatGPT, like, that's it.

02:10:05.000 Like, who popularized that term, that's it, and said Giannis Papas, used it for his character.

02:10:10.000 Interesting.

02:10:11.000 That's what ChatGPT is doing?

02:10:13.000 ChatGPT said that.

02:10:17.000 That's interesting.

02:10:18.000 Yeah.

02:10:19.000 Well, it's certainly a terrible time to be, you know, like one of these people who, you know, is paranoid.

02:10:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:36.000 Passed away, but she was paranoid.

02:10:38.000 She was a schizophrenic.

02:10:39.000 Now, it's like, are they schizophrenics?

02:10:42.000 Or are they? 0.72

02:10:43.000 Because if you are unduly paranoid now, oh my god. 1.00

02:10:47.000 It is just a daily dose of fucking stories. 1.00

02:10:52.000 That are like, Jesus Christ. 1.00

02:10:55.000 And we've gotten to the point where Alex Jones, despite all his troubles, makes sense.

02:11:00.000 Not just makes sense, but a lot of people are like, hey, what did he say?

02:11:03.000 Right.

02:11:04.000 Now he's back on Twitter or X, which is wild.

02:11:07.000 He's going to do a daily show.

02:11:09.000 Pointed out a lot of things over the years.

02:11:11.000 Some of them have been correct.

02:11:13.000 A lot of them.

02:11:14.000 A lot of them have been correct.

02:11:15.000 A lot of them.

02:11:16.000 So you can't discount...

02:11:18.000 Now some of them aren't.

02:11:21.000 But you can't discount what he says anymore as easily as you could have.

02:11:27.000 No, not as easily.

02:11:28.000 Prior to...

02:11:29.000 So much insanity has gone on over the last three years. 0.99

02:11:34.000 So many people are like, what the fuck? 0.98

02:11:36.000 Well, the erosion of trust in everything, from the government, media, church, every institution we have is completely kind of collapsed in terms of how we view them, and we now see how politically motivated they are, how corrupt they are, how criminal they are, and now that we're just left in a world of individuals, 0.99

02:11:52.000 some of whom are truth-seeking, some of whom are sociopaths, some of whom are funny, some of whom are whatever, but now we're just kind of left with a world of people trying to figure it out on their own.

02:12:04.000 And it's pretty scary.

02:12:08.000 Because some of those people are going to build cults and communes and everybody's going to drink their poison and they're trying to go find a Hale-Bopp comet.

02:12:17.000 Some of them are going to build media companies.

02:12:19.000 Some of them are going to build AI bots.

02:12:24.000 Some of them are going to build...

02:12:25.000 And some of them are going to, you know, come up with new religions.

02:12:31.000 I mean...

02:12:34.000 But it seems to be now that everybody's operating outside of the institutions.

02:12:39.000 Yes.

02:12:40.000 And that the people that are still operating within the institutions are almost taking cues, a la the honest proposition, from people on the outside.

02:12:49.000 So it does seem like the institutions are rotting a bit.

02:12:54.000 They're trapped, too.

02:12:56.000 Especially the media.

02:12:57.000 They're so trapped in the television format. 0.99

02:12:59.000 That format sucks. 0.93

02:13:01.000 Well, it's just people not wanting to lose their job. 0.99

02:13:03.000 That's all it is.

02:13:05.000 It's people protecting their own revenue source.

02:13:08.000 That's all it is.

02:13:10.000 It'll go on as long as they can.

02:13:12.000 It's the most basic human desire to protect your family and your money.

02:13:18.000 And that's a thing that no one ever thought was going to go away.

02:13:21.000 And no one thought it was going to go away. 0.79

02:13:23.000 And now it's going away and the pace of it and the pace of change is disorienting and people are like, what the fuck's going on? 0.71

02:13:30.000 And, you know, now we're in the Wild West and the Wild West has its problems.

02:13:36.000 It has a ton of benefits.

02:13:37.000 We all know them.

02:13:38.000 Yeah.

02:13:39.000 A lot of information.

02:13:41.000 But then the Wild West has a lot of problems.

02:13:43.000 And it's deepfakes.

02:13:47.000 It's the AI stuff.

02:13:49.000 It's what is and isn't real.

02:13:52.000 What did and did not happen.

02:13:55.000 A lot of charismatic, cunning people are going to be able to manipulate this technology and, you know...

02:14:03.000 Rile people up about all manner of events that may or may not have happened.

02:14:08.000 Wait till they come with fake police shootings.

02:14:12.000 That didn't happen.

02:14:14.000 Wait till they just start manufacturing footage from something that did not happen.

02:14:19.000 And there's people in the street rioting about a thing that did not happen.

02:14:25.000 How far are we from that?

02:14:27.000 A week?

02:14:28.000 Because foreign actors could easily do something like that if they wanted to start some sort of chaos. 1.00

02:14:32.000 Oh, for sure.

02:14:33.000 Dude, for sure.

02:14:36.000 That's the type of stuff that you want to sow chaos.

02:14:40.000 And you could do stuff like that combined with a terror cell.

02:14:45.000 Yeah, and dude, people wouldn't believe that it didn't happen.

02:14:49.000 They'd go, the government's covering it up.

02:14:50.000 Right.

02:14:51.000 There'd be a lot of that.

02:14:52.000 Well, there's so much confusion.

02:14:54.000 That's the big problem with not having a main source of information that's reliable.

02:14:58.000 That's right.

02:14:58.000 And that people have to search around a lot.

02:15:00.000 A lot of people don't do it.

02:15:01.000 They don't search around.

02:15:01.000 Just make it Infowars!

02:15:04.000 Just make it InfoWars.

02:15:05.000 What's the worst that could happen?

02:15:07.000 If we gotta do one, he's been right enough of the time.

02:15:12.000 He's been right more than CNN. Just have it be InfoWars is our national news.

02:15:16.000 That's our BBC. I mean, if you think about what they did, if you think about what these governments in conjunction...

02:15:25.000 What is this?

02:15:25.000 He's back on Twitter.

02:15:27.000 Yeah, I was just saying that.

02:15:28.000 He's been tweeting all day.

02:15:29.000 Oh, yeah, he's back on Twitter, but he also has a new show that he's doing.

02:15:32.000 At the end of the day, he's going to do...

02:15:34.000 After he does his main show, he's going to break down all the different things that they talked about.

02:15:40.000 What I'm going to do is when I'm on that next week, I'll FaceTime CAA, all my agents, and go, hey, because the thing is, they can't even get rid of you anymore because they just need you to sell tickets.

02:15:52.000 When you and him were on the podcast, it was one of my favorite times ever.

02:15:56.000 It's one of the greatest things I've ever been a part of and done, and I think it's this iconic moment of encapsulating The world at one of the wildest times ever, before an election, before a contentious election,

02:16:13.000 and it was...

02:16:14.000 Yeah.

02:16:15.000 I mean, it was an amazing time.

02:16:18.000 In the red pill.

02:16:20.000 The old one.

02:16:21.000 The old studio.

02:16:21.000 Yeah.

02:16:22.000 It was amazing.

02:16:24.000 It was fun.

02:16:25.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 It was a fun time.

02:16:26.000 It was a good time and he was great.

02:16:29.000 He was really sharp and really... 0.92

02:16:31.000 The fucked up thing is how many things he was right about. 0.95

02:16:33.000 Like when he's talking about polio being something that kids are getting from this vaccine in Africa. 0.98

02:16:40.000 They had to stop giving.

02:16:41.000 They're like, what are you talking about? 0.99

02:16:42.000 And he pulls up this AP story like, holy shit. 0.98

02:16:44.000 Well, all the people that he calls out, listen, we always talk about this stuff, right? 0.98

02:16:48.000 He infiltrated Bohemian Grove and stuff like that.

02:16:50.000 It's like...

02:16:53.000 It's blatantly obvious to everybody that all of this secretive, you know, whatever you want to call it, whether it's you want to say deep state or whatever it is, they don't want anything they're talking about out there.

02:17:14.000 We're good to go.

02:17:33.000 And that's why all these things exist.

02:17:36.000 And then this guy comes around and breaks into one of them with cameras and shows all of those people in cloaks, mock-sacrificing an owl or whatever, or mock-sacrificing a child.

02:17:48.000 I think the effigy of a child with a big owl You know, it's creepy.

02:17:53.000 It would be creepy if those people were all broke.

02:17:57.000 Not only are they not broke, they're the most powerful people in the world.

02:18:00.000 It's doubly creepy, right? 0.76

02:18:03.000 Even if it is just a big orgy, whatever the hell they do, there's a lot that they don't want you to know. 0.84

02:18:09.000 And the fact that guys like him are out there... 0.90

02:18:13.000 They don't...

02:18:14.000 That is unsustainable.

02:18:15.000 They don't want that.

02:18:17.000 No.

02:18:17.000 That's not good.

02:18:18.000 I remember something I was going to talk about before when you were on a rant.

02:18:21.000 When we're talking about people existing in these AI realms, that this is probably going to...

02:18:29.000 Are people going to get...

02:18:41.000 Right.

02:18:43.000 Right.

02:18:53.000 They'll take you off if you have anything that doesn't go with the gender narrative. 0.71

02:18:56.000 They'll demonetize you. 1.00

02:18:58.000 They'll limit your reach.

02:18:59.000 They'll shadow ban you. 0.99

02:19:00.000 They'll do whatever the fuck they want. 0.99

02:19:01.000 Now imagine if that is life. 0.96

02:19:03.000 Imagine if most life now takes place in some sort of a digital realm that's owned by a corporation, and then that corporation decides to impose its ideology on all the people that exist in that realm.

02:19:17.000 Well, it's also like one of the things that was interesting in this book was when does a crime start?

02:19:24.000 This is very interesting.

02:19:26.000 Does it start with a thought?

02:19:27.000 That's right.

02:19:28.000 At what point does a crime start?

02:19:30.000 When can we stop it?

02:19:31.000 Because we have all this metadata showing kind of what you want.

02:19:35.000 We can create a composite of you and what you're thinking about.

02:19:37.000 Yeah.

02:19:38.000 When can we stop it?

02:19:40.000 These are all very interesting things that are going to come up, that are coming up right now, and these are debates that are going to have to be had as more and more of our life exists on these virtual platforms.

02:19:53.000 This is only the beginning, right?

02:19:55.000 We're still in the infancy of what this is all going to look like.

02:19:59.000 I don't think we can even guess.

02:20:02.000 I think it's going to be so fucking bizarre so quick.

02:20:06.000 And the thing is, if we get hit by something, like whatever took out the ancient Egyptians and civilization, if we get hit by something, there will be no evidence.

02:20:15.000 Everything's going to be on hard drives.

02:20:17.000 That's right.

02:20:18.000 You're never going to get it.

02:20:19.000 That's right. 0.99

02:20:19.000 No one's going to know what the fuck Aristotle said. 0.99

02:20:22.000 No one's going to know. 0.99

02:20:23.000 Someone's going to go, someone wore this coat.

02:20:25.000 Yeah.

02:20:25.000 They're gonna find this, they're gonna go, they were wearing this.

02:20:29.000 He had a spear and he wore that and he hunted the seals.

02:20:32.000 Right.

02:20:32.000 Little do they know.

02:20:33.000 They're never gonna read the work of Feynman.

02:20:35.000 It's all gonna be gone.

02:20:36.000 The books are gonna be incinerated.

02:20:38.000 It'll all be gone.

02:20:38.000 The hard drives will be rotted out.

02:20:40.000 It'll all be gone.

02:20:40.000 And we're gonna have to do it all over again.

02:20:42.000 And I think that's what they did.

02:20:43.000 I think that's what people, when you look at ancient Greece, I think those are the people doing it all over again.

02:20:48.000 And I think the real people that did it at the first were the Egyptians. 0.98

02:20:51.000 Whoever was around at that time that didn't have those insane monuments, but what we know that they did That's like the best evidence you could ever have in front of your face.

02:21:02.000 There's a there's a piece of this puzzle that's missing Definitely a big piece of the puzzle is missing and it is it is interesting to think about Because you know it's 20 it's about 2024 if you look back at 2014 And look at the changes to our society in 10 years,

02:21:24.000 expedited by the pandemic and things like that, right?

02:21:29.000 Yeah.

02:21:31.000 You imagine 2034. It's going to get wild.

02:21:35.000 Oh my God.

02:21:36.000 It's going to get wild.

02:21:37.000 What is that going to be like?

02:21:38.000 Jesus Christ.

02:21:39.000 Is it going to be where me and you are able to meet for coffee in a virtual world of our choosing?

02:21:46.000 Most certainly.

02:21:47.000 That's already happening.

02:21:48.000 Things like that.

02:21:49.000 That's already happening.

02:21:50.000 The Lex Friedman, Mark Zuckerberg podcast they did.

02:21:54.000 Yeah.

02:21:54.000 What's that saying?

02:21:55.000 Yeah.

02:21:55.000 It's insane.

02:21:56.000 They look exactly like them and it's just avatars talking.

02:22:00.000 Like eye movement, lip movement, everything.

02:22:02.000 They're wearing these goggles.

02:22:04.000 So that seems to be coming.

02:22:06.000 That's 100% coming and it's going to streamline.

02:22:08.000 It's going to be small and then it's eventually going to be in your body.

02:22:12.000 And then when it's in your body, you're going to have the ability to be anywhere at any time you want and not really where you are.

02:22:18.000 Right.

02:22:18.000 Yeah, I mean, it's inevitable.

02:22:21.000 And then also, communication with people of all these different languages instantaneously.

02:22:28.000 Either we'll have a universal language, or we'll have instantaneous translation to the language of your choice, and there'll be no confusion anymore.

02:22:36.000 It's going to feel silly that we were debating whether the background actor who was a hot dog guy could be reproduced without his consent.

02:22:45.000 And I understand why we've got to have all those discussions, but things are going to get so crazy that we're going to look back at that and go, oh, that was cool.

02:22:52.000 They're doing this.

02:22:53.000 There's a dam, and it's leaking, and they're doing this with their fingers, and it's not enough.

02:22:57.000 That thing's gonna come down, and I don't think there's anything we could do about it.

02:23:00.000 I think AI actors are inevitable.

02:23:04.000 AI films that are amazing, that are entirely designed, written, performed by AI. I think it's inevitable.

02:23:13.000 And I think when the first one comes out that's a fucking banger, we're gonna be all on board. 0.98

02:23:17.000 Because you can fail with- What is this, Jamie? 0.99

02:23:19.000 Have you seen this commercial going around recently?

02:23:21.000 No.

02:23:21.000 I'll play it for you.

02:23:22.000 It's pretty interesting.

02:23:23.000 AI pin.

02:23:24.000 You've seen it on TV a lot over the last few days.

02:23:26.000 So it's a pin you carry with you instead of having a cell phone.

02:23:29.000 Right, you wear this.

02:23:29.000 Isn't life about what we experience?

02:23:31.000 And there's multiple companies with these out right now.

02:23:34.000 Can I eat this?

02:23:35.000 Yes, dragon fruits are low in sugar.

02:23:37.000 What we hear- Hey, what should I get here?

02:23:43.000 What we see...

02:23:45.000 Yeah.

02:23:46.000 So this is sort of like in between.

02:23:49.000 Would it be nicer if that was embedded in your wrist?

02:23:51.000 Just give me the chip.

02:23:53.000 And by the way, human to human experiences when it comes to customer service and things like that, they've been declining because everyone's so used to the internet.

02:24:01.000 People are like person to person.

02:24:04.000 You walk into a store now, people are running away from you.

02:24:07.000 They don't want to help you.

02:24:08.000 It's better.

02:24:09.000 Let's just do this.

02:24:10.000 Are you playing songs from the last time we were here?

02:24:14.000 So she said play a song from last time we were here.

02:24:17.000 It's recording stuff all day.

02:24:20.000 Oh boy.

02:24:21.000 Translating it and putting in some sort of files so they can go and reference it.

02:24:24.000 Oh, the NSA's gonna get ya.

02:24:26.000 You could ask it to recall stuff.

02:24:27.000 What was Tim saying yesterday at 2 o'clock?

02:24:30.000 Well, don't do that!

02:24:31.000 Don't do that!

02:24:32.000 Fun times.

02:24:33.000 2 o'clock was a rough hour for me.

02:24:35.000 There will be no more secrets.

02:24:36.000 In the future, mind reading will be everywhere.

02:24:39.000 You will never get away from your thoughts, other people reading your thoughts.

02:24:44.000 Everyone's going to know. 0.93

02:24:45.000 How much money you make, where you live, everything about you, it's gonna get fuckin' squirrely.

02:24:52.000 It's your life, but for everyone.

02:24:53.000 It's like the life of a celebrity, where people know those things because people write about them.

02:24:57.000 But way more.

02:24:57.000 They will know your thoughts.

02:24:59.000 Yeah, it'll be intrusive.

02:25:00.000 At every moment.

02:25:01.000 It'll be intrusive.

02:25:02.000 Intrusive.

02:25:02.000 I mean, there's gonna be people that decide to opt out, shut it off, but then...

02:25:07.000 I guarantee that you're not going to be able to go to the Christmas village.

02:25:10.000 Like, it's going to be the holiday village.

02:25:12.000 You probably can't fly.

02:25:13.000 Yeah.

02:25:13.000 Unless you have a ship.

02:25:14.000 They're not going to let you do it.

02:25:15.000 I want to know if you're a terrorist.

02:25:17.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:25:18.000 You can't fly in this plane.

02:25:19.000 What if I think you're going to take over the cockpit?

02:25:21.000 We're going to live in a time of certainty.

02:25:24.000 And that's going to be scary because it does kind of take some of the romance, interest, like, some of the excitement out of life is knowing everything. 0.98

02:25:31.000 And in the middle of all that, that's when AI is going to just start running shit. 0.97

02:25:35.000 And start going, get out, get ready. 0.99

02:25:37.000 Isn't the fun of sitting across the table from somebody going, what's that guy or woman?

02:25:42.000 Like, what are they about?

02:25:43.000 Right.

02:25:44.000 Oh, I like it.

02:25:45.000 Obviously.

02:25:45.000 There's something interesting about it.

02:25:46.000 You've done it more than anyone.

02:25:48.000 Like, to me, it's like, if...

02:25:51.000 If we just live in a world where everybody's thoughts are kind of available, it seems like...

02:25:58.000 I think it's coming, man.

02:26:00.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

02:26:01.000 I don't doubt it.

02:26:01.000 I don't think we can stop it, and I think it's going to be the thing that transcends us.

02:26:05.000 The thing that moves us from what we are now into what we're going to become.

02:26:10.000 I think it's going to happen technologically.

02:26:12.000 I don't think it's going to happen biologically.

02:26:14.000 What do you think?

02:26:14.000 Put a year on it.

02:26:15.000 2030?

02:26:16.000 No, no, no.

02:26:16.000 I don't even think we have that much time.

02:26:17.000 No!

02:26:18.000 I think we have a couple years.

02:26:19.000 I think we have a couple years before things get real strange.

02:26:22.000 Because I think artificial general intelligence is going to emerge.

02:26:25.000 And when they start implementing it, and if they decide to implement it in government, that's when things are going to get really crazy.

02:26:31.000 Right.

02:26:31.000 If they can figure out a way to stop corruption through artificial intelligence, who's not going to be on board?

02:26:36.000 If artificial intelligence can make all transactions completely equitable and fair and morally just and righteous and make an even distribution of government finance to take care of all the complex problems that we have in society.

02:26:48.000 Well, that's when they'll shut it down.

02:26:50.000 That's when they'll go fast!

02:26:51.000 But if they can sneak their way in, if they can sneak their way in and run things.

02:26:56.000 And then, you know, what if artificial general intelligence decides that eugenics is a really good idea? 0.99

02:27:00.000 Sure.

02:27:01.000 Because it's what we do with certain animals.

02:27:02.000 We don't let bad dogs that like to bite people, we don't let them breed.

02:27:06.000 For sure.

02:27:06.000 Yeah.

02:27:06.000 What if that happens?

02:27:08.000 What'll happen?

02:27:09.000 It could get real weird.

02:27:11.000 And I don't think anybody has any idea how weird, because I think we all just have to see.

02:27:15.000 We have to see where all this stuff goes.

02:27:16.000 We have to see what happens.

02:27:17.000 And if artificial general intelligence, once they start using it to make better technology, wow, that's going to be crazy.

02:27:24.000 Doesn't it feel like comedy will be one of the last things, though, to get affected?

02:27:27.000 For the biological humans that remain, the last days of their lives, they'll be chuckling and drinking and smoking cigarettes and trying to avoid cancer.

02:27:36.000 And then the new humans will take over.

02:27:39.000 And they won't want comedy.

02:27:40.000 They don't want comedy.

02:27:41.000 They're not going to need it.

02:27:42.000 They don't care.

02:27:42.000 They're not going to care.

02:27:43.000 They can just be happy anytime they want.

02:27:44.000 They're going to be able to manipulate their own...

02:27:46.000 Do you think you'll ever interview an AI bot?

02:27:49.000 100%.

02:27:49.000 Interesting.

02:27:50.000 Yeah, I think there'll be someone sitting there, like that lady from fucking... 1.00

02:27:53.000 Ex Machina. 0.99

02:27:54.000 That's crazy.

02:27:55.000 And you'll be like, thanks for doing this.

02:27:59.000 Yeah.

02:27:59.000 That's crazy.

02:28:00.000 Yeah.

02:28:01.000 Guarantee you.

02:28:01.000 That's a crazy thought.

02:28:02.000 That Ex Machina movie is so fucking, it's so perfect for right now. 0.98

02:28:08.000 Go, please. 0.96

02:28:09.000 It's one of my all-time favorite movies.

02:28:11.000 I've watched that movie at least five times. 0.99

02:28:13.000 Someone listening to this, go watch that fucking movie because that's common. 1.00

02:28:17.000 That's coming. 1.00

02:28:18.000 I love the end of it.

02:28:19.000 I won't give a lie.

02:28:19.000 The end of it's creepy.

02:28:21.000 It's amazing.

02:28:23.000 The whole movie's amazing.

02:28:23.000 It's amazing.

02:28:24.000 The guy who plays the dude from Star Wars that plays the genius guy that invents it.

02:28:29.000 What's that guy's name?

02:28:29.000 But maybe we need this.

02:28:31.000 If we're just going to fight about Trump forever, maybe we just...

02:28:34.000 Oscarizers. 0.82

02:28:35.000 Maybe a couple of bots.

02:28:37.000 Throw a bot or two in.

02:28:38.000 This is the last gasp or biological existence, the Trump election.

02:28:43.000 It's so funny that you're probably right, and that's what we're doing.

02:28:47.000 It's like the last thing human beings can do is yell about Donald Trump.

02:28:51.000 Yep.

02:28:52.000 This is it.

02:28:52.000 On these apps.

02:28:54.000 Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, and then boom.

02:28:56.000 This is the last human leaders we have.

02:28:59.000 Yeah.

02:29:00.000 All right, Tim Dillon.

02:29:01.000 I love you.

02:29:01.000 Joe Rogan.

02:29:02.000 You're the fucking man. 1.00

02:29:02.000 Thank you so much. 1.00

02:29:03.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:29:04.000 We're going to have fun tonight.

02:29:05.000 Yes.

02:29:06.000 I'm excited.

02:29:06.000 Thanks, buddy.

02:29:07.000 Everybody, watch Tim Dillon's show. 0.97

02:29:09.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.95

02:29:10.000 Thank you. 0.97

02:29:10.000 Podcast is incredible. 0.97

02:29:11.000 Netflix special.

02:29:12.000 Everything.

02:29:13.000 TimDillonComedy.com for live tickets.

02:29:15.000 It's me and AI. Let's go.

02:29:17.000 Thank you.

02:29:18.000 All right.

02:29:18.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 20, 2023

Joe Rogan Experience #2077 - Tim Dillon

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