Dirty Water Dan has found bones in the East River, but the Museum of American History won t talk to him about it. So what's the deal with the bones that belong to Drew and Laura's property in New York City's East River? And why are they still out there for people to find them? Well, it's been a dirty little secret for decades, and it's finally been proven true! But the museum won't talk to me about it, and neither will Drew or Laura. So I go to the river and find out what's going on, and I find out that it's not what I thought it was. And I find that it has a lot to do with Mark Twain. I also discover that I'm not the only one who thinks Mark Twain was a good dude. We talk about that and much more on this episode of Thick & Thin. Also, we talk about the new Netflix documentary, The Boneyard, which is out now, and why I think it's a good movie. Don't miss it! It's coming out on Netflix on October 31st, 2020, so make sure to check it out! If you haven't already checked out the Netflix streaming service, you won't want to miss it. It's a must-listen to the whole thing! Thanks for listening to Thick and Thin! and we'll see you next Monday! Enjoy! Cheers, Mr. Cheers! - Cheers. - The Cheers - John R. John Rocha. Jon & Drew - Jon & Laura "The Cheers" (Music: John R) Jon Music: John Steve Joe Don Sean Bill Dan Thanks, Jon (Reeves ( ) Sarah John (Sawyer Jake ) (John) (Joe and Dan (Jon ) (John & Sarah (Bobby Chris (Mike Jim ( ) (R) & John & Will (Josie (Alyssa , etc.) (Drew Michael . & Andrew ). Thank you for listening? & Joe (Ladies and Gorms)
00:00:33.000First of all, congratulations on being proved correct, and that there are literally mammoth bones, bison bones, all kinds of bones in the East River.
00:03:25.000Well, when Drew and Laura and I and my wife went to New York a few years ago, they were supposed to meet with us, and they decided to have us stand out in the rain for four hours.
00:04:26.000Yeah, because stand-up comedy is a truly American art form, and it seems like Twain Was the first guy to do it because essentially what he would do is read his humorous works in front of people.
00:07:02.000It's like when they first heard themselves recording.
00:07:04.000I would like to sound a little more fancy.
00:07:08.000Anyways, that's their collecting techniques, and they sent everything.
00:07:15.000They weren't supposed to take all that stuff.
00:07:17.000They were only supposed to take bones of scientific value, and they were supposed to research every one they took, and they were supposed to, under the agreement I had with them, or my company, Do a report annually on everything they took.
00:07:33.000And it was a tripartite agreement with the University of Alaska, AMNH, and my company, Fairmix Exploration.
00:08:59.000Well, let's talk about that because one of the things that you have found is a layer of carbon, a layer of dark carbon that seems to indicate a mass fire.
00:09:35.000The other places were—I forget where the other places were.
00:09:39.000Was it Siberia, where they found massive amounts of mammoths that were all in one area that seemed to have died instantaneously?
00:09:46.000Some of them with, like, broken leg bones seemed to have died because of an impact or the force of the impact?
00:09:54.000Well, like I told you last time, I think it's all secondary deposition from water because there's such a wide spectrum of very few mummified remains, although we found some this summer.
00:10:09.000And I think I told you last year that the oldest sample we took was 22,000 years old.
00:10:15.000And some people, you know, I have that Ice Age Fossil Works, buy little shards of ivory.
00:10:22.000And I told the one guy, I said, why don't you carbon date it if you want to know the story.
00:10:26.000So he sent it off to a lab and had it carbon dated, 40,000 years old.
00:10:40.000Well, what Randall and Graham Hancock, what they believe, and the Younger Dryas Impact Theory proponents believe, is that distinctly something around 11,800 years ago and then maybe something also around 10,000 years ago.
00:10:54.000But that doesn't preclude or that doesn't dismiss the idea that there could have been one.
00:13:00.000Yeah, the crazy sod bones are very interesting.
00:13:02.000So let's talk about that, because we've showed photos on the podcast before, and that these sod bones, now you have carbon dated them, and they're to win?
00:18:46.000Well, at least we know you didn't come up with evidence that the saw is older than 5,000 years old, which is one of the things that we're thinking.
00:18:53.000Which is, I was hoping that was going to be the case.
00:20:54.000And it went all the way into the lower 48. So there's a lot of stuff that we find, as I said last time, that they say didn't live there, but it sure died there.
00:21:54.000In fact, in that film, that documentary film, Pat Druckenmiller, who's the curator now and the director of the museum, says to their knowledge, none of them ever been found there.
00:22:32.000I think it is important because these museums are run by these academics, and academics, unfortunately, some of them tend to be very arrogant.
00:22:40.000And they want to be able to control whatever narrative they have or whatever information they have, and they don't want to be open about it.
00:24:50.000Is it because they don't have the resources or it just wasn't a priority for them and this was all done from the 1940s and there's no reason for them to go back and take that stuff and reenact the research or begin the research?
00:25:03.000It's impossible for them to come up with any scientific research because they don't have the stratigraphic information.
00:25:10.000They don't even know where it was found.
00:25:47.000This place seems like, what an amazing, fortunate find that you guys have this one spot, 2.1 acres, and probably a whole lot more around that area that you just haven't uncovered yet, that has this incredible wealth of bones.
00:27:40.000And that's why I don't understand why these universities or someone hasn't reached out to you and said, hey, we need to really have a full-scale investigation and find out what happened here.
00:27:59.000Unlock a lot of pieces to this puzzle as to what happened to humanity.
00:28:04.000There's clearly some indication that we have a very limited understanding of the history of human beings in terms of What took place where we're starting to uncover these immense structures that seem to indicate that people had very complex construction methods many thousands of years before we thought they were capable of doing that.
00:29:12.000And it's partially my fault because I tell everybody, look, until we get our bones back from the bowels of the AMNH, nothing's going to get studied.
00:29:24.000If they want to do this and continue doing this, they can deal with Drew out there because we're not going to just say, okay, we'll study 20 pieces of this 1,000-piece puzzle.
00:29:37.000My company had 200 giants running at the same time for over 40 years.
00:29:43.000Recovered tens of thousands and thousands of bones, all of which were taken to New York, 50 tons of which were dumped at least one time in the East River and maybe more than that.
00:29:53.000Now, why did they dump those in the East River?
00:30:41.000We could have built a gas line from the North Slope to the lower 48 and a water line from Southeast Alaska to Northern California and took care of the people in Maui.
00:31:31.000Well, that's, you know, they have too much on their plate.
00:31:35.000Why are they going to talk about some fucking dude in Alaska who's out of his mind, blowing water into the side of permafrost, pulling out all kinds of crazy skulls?
00:32:20.000Imagine that being the best case scenario in 2023, with all the information that we have today, with AI, with chat GPT 4.0, soon to be 5, with all the technology we have available, all the understanding that we have available.
00:32:37.000And we're still just want everybody to just leave us alone.
00:37:14.000This is the only time in my life that I've ever wondered, like really, really wondered and seriously considered the fact that there's some puppet masters that are slowly orchestrating the collapse of civilization.
00:37:29.000You know, you talked about AI. Well, someday, and probably not too far in the future, you'll be able to do your podcast without even being here.
00:37:38.000AI will have you sitting there, have me sitting here, and it will be guessing what we're going to talk about.
00:38:37.000I mean, I think what we're seeing right now is just really the tip of the iceberg are their capabilities.
00:38:43.000And I wonder, you know, I had Sam Altman on who is the, he was the head dog at OpenAI and they kicked him out and they brought him back in.
00:38:54.000And there's some sort of weird explanation of why they kicked him out.
00:38:58.000And they were saying that he wasn't forthcoming about something.
00:39:01.000The concern is that this artificial intelligence has reached sentience.
00:41:36.000When people start talking about UAPs and Alien life and there's two thoughts one thought well, there's more than two thoughts one thought is that they are us from the future Another thought is they are us from their people their things their intelligent life forms maybe even artificial intelligence something that has been created from other galaxies that is Physically transported here and then the other thought is there's into interdimensional travel
00:42:06.000that there are beings from somewhere that are capable of visiting This dimension that we exist in but they exist in something so they are here all the time They're just here in a way that we have no ability to access them,
00:42:23.000but they can access us And time, and I've heard you say this, something we made up.
00:44:31.000It's entirely possible that it's just constantly, if you constantly expand further and further out, that this entire universe is an atom.
00:44:44.000It's a part of a much larger organism that exists in another universe that is infinitely large, that is impossible for us to grasp our head around.
00:44:56.000So that's a brain cell and that's galaxies.
00:45:01.000And when you look at that, I mean, goddamn those things look the same.
00:45:10.000Neural network and the cosmic web, they look the same.
00:45:14.000And if they are the same, if that is what a brain cell is, and that the entire universe is a part of the brain of an infinitely large individual that's a part of Of a civilization that also exists in another universe that's a part of an infinitely large being.
00:46:02.000Maybe those people, aliens, whatever you want to call it, visited Earth about 65, 75 million years ago and they said, hey, no life like us can live here with these dinosaurs running around.
00:49:20.000But again, maybe that's part of the design of how the human race evolves, that it has to go through these things in order to have an incentive to restructure things and get better.
00:49:37.000The problem is also our personal timeline of being a human being is so limited and so short that by the time you realize how fucked everything is, it's sort of the end of your ride.
00:49:58.000It's a great piece that was written by a guy who was a general.
00:50:04.000It was in the 1930s, and at the end of his career, he wrote this piece called War is a Racket, and what he thought he was doing versus what the motivation for these military actions actually were.
00:50:34.000The only one international in scope is the only one in which profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
00:50:39.000And he wrote this very long piece explaining all the military campaigns that he was involved in and what they were really about.
00:50:46.000It was about making things, you know, protecting bankers, protecting the investments of oil companies and all the different things that...
00:50:54.000What he thought they were and what they really were I spent 33 years in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for big business for Wall Street for bankers in short I was a racketeer a gangster for capitalism and he wrote that in 1935 Wow Yeah.
00:51:13.000And he had figured it out by the end of his tenure, you know, when he was looking back at his career, he's like, Jesus Christ, I thought I was doing the right thing.
00:52:44.000You're not going to stick that through five inches of fur, three inches of skin, leather, to hit a vital organ and a woolly mammoth thrown by a guy from me to Jamie.
00:52:55.000First of all, you're not going to get that close.
00:54:10.000And until the Younger Dryas impact theory, the main theory as to the extinction event was the berserker theory, that human beings had become such effective hunters.
00:54:19.000And by the way, this preceded the invention of the bow and arrow.
00:54:23.000This was the atlatl, which is essentially like a better method of throwing a spear.
00:54:30.000Like, I have this thing that I throw a ball for with my dog.
00:55:14.000But if your choice is to go, let's go knock over that caribou over there, or let's go over there to that woolly mammoth and half of us get killed.
00:56:57.000They have, I think, an Indian elephant, which has a large percentage of the DNA that a woolly mammoth has, and then they're going to splice that with whatever DNA they have of woolly mammoths, and they're going to recreate woolly mammoths.
00:57:15.000How far away are we from Jurassic Park?
00:57:18.000How far away are we from some asshole putting a fucking dinosaur in Costa Rica?
00:57:27.000Those guys were all up in Fairbanks, the ones you're talking about.
00:57:31.000Brought them out to the boneyard and showed them some of the stuff we got.
00:58:53.000I think, though, the Shroud of Turin has been proven to be fraudulent in that I believe it's only 500 years old, so it's not really Jesus' image that was in the cloth.
00:59:43.000Is a length of linen cloth that bears a faint image of the front and the back of a man has been venerated for centuries, especially by members of the Catholic Church, as the actual burial shroud used to wrap the body of Jesus of Nazareth after his crucifixion and upon which Jesus' bodily image is miraculously imprinted.
01:00:03.000The human image on The Shroud can be discerned more clearly in a black and white photographic negative than in its natural sepia color, an effect discovered in 1898 by Secondo Pia,
01:00:19.000who produced the first photographs of the Shroud.
01:00:21.000This negative image is associated with the popular Catholic devotion to the holy face of Jesus.
01:00:27.000The Shroud's authenticity as a holy relic has been disputed even within the Catholic Church.
01:00:34.000And radiocarbon dating has shown it to be medieval artifact, with the main image created via prolonged differential exposure of a prepared fabric to bright sunlight.
01:00:46.000So the documented history of the Shroud dates back to 1354 when it's exhibited in the new collegiate church of Leary, a village north of France.
01:00:56.000The Shroud was denounced as a forgery by the Bishop of Troyes in 1389. It was acquired by the House of Savoy in 1453 and later deposited in a chapel in Chambury, where it was damaged by fire in 1532 and 1578. The Savoys moved the shroud to their new capital in Turin,
01:01:28.000In 1988, radiocarbon dating by three different laboratories established the Shroud's linen material was produced between the years 1260 and 1390 to a 95% confidence level.
01:01:41.000Defenders of the authenticity of the Shroud have questioned those results, usually on the basis that the samples tested might have been contaminated or taken from a repair of the original fabric.
01:01:56.000But imagine if that's how Jesus comes back.
01:02:00.000I mean, you know, the whole idea is that Jesus is eventually going to come back when the shits hit the fan.
01:02:05.000Like, okay, guys, I'll let you try it on your own forever, but now I'm back.
01:02:11.000I mean, what better time for Jesus to come back when they've figured out a way to fucking make humans out of DNA? That would be a good time for Jesus to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:04:39.000And I think that's part of also the reason why it's successful, is that people know Even though this is on Spotify and there's a massive corporation behind it that distributes it and all that, Spotify leaves me alone.
01:04:53.000At the end of the line, it's just me and Jamie.
01:04:57.000I mean, the people that are making this podcast, the people that decide things, Jamie and I, we just have conversations.
01:08:20.000It's just so fascinating to think back to 200 years ago, the actual human, sawn through that, and then as it goes through time, frozen into the ground,
01:08:36.000pushed out with water, found by you, cut and sent to get DNA tested and carbon dated, and then it comes back to here.
01:11:06.000It's so silly to say that because it just makes you look stupid.
01:11:09.000Because that might be natural under the craziest of circumstances.
01:11:13.000It might be natural that a symmetrical face with eyelids and eyebrows and cheeks and a nose and a mouth and I mean, everything about it is carved.
01:11:26.000It almost looks like that shrouded Jesus.
01:12:23.000Under the craziest of circumstances, it might be natural.
01:12:27.000But if you had a bet, if you had to bet everything you had, put it on red or put it on black, you know, I'm putting it on someone had a fucking stone or a knife or whatever it was, and they carved that face.
01:13:01.000I have my friends at AM&H. They said, with witnesses, unfortunately for them, two of the uppity-ups there said, the reason they don't want to give the bones back to me is they think I'm going to sell them.
01:19:00.000I told you that, hey, man, I don't have a whole lot new to report on all the new bones we found because we're finding so many different kind of things we've never found before.
01:19:11.000But when we moved the whole operation down to where we started, bought a new pump, started up that left limit, we're starting to find all kinds of shit.
01:20:04.000And Pat Druckenmiller says the secrets are in the bones.
01:20:07.000They have diagnostic tools now that can tell what the animal was eating, how many times it had sex, how far it traveled, how long it lived, things that we don't even know what the questions are yet.
01:20:19.000We just need the puzzle pieces back so it can be studied.
01:20:23.000What really fascinates me is the skull on your t-shirt.
01:23:03.000Yeah, they found, I don't know how much they found, but they found bones that are from, I believe this was like, I want to say 2007-ish, 2017, somewhere around there.
01:23:19.000Real recently, they found this new branch of the human tree that's called the Denisovan.
01:23:30.000James is going to look it up, but they were in Russia.
01:23:34.000There's many versions of human beings that coexisted, apparently, and Homo sapiens were the Article from 2019 says they recreated what it looks like from a pinky bone they found.
01:24:05.000More than 100,000 years ago, modern humans in Eurasia lived alongside Neanderthals and Denisovans, two other hominins that have since gone extinct.
01:24:14.000While much is known about Neanderthals and how they lived, Denisovans have remained enigmatic because only a handful of bone fragments from the ancient group have ever been found.
01:24:24.000But now they have a good idea of how Denisovans look.
01:24:27.000In a study published Thursday in the journal Cell, scientists took DNA from a Denisovan pinky bone found in a Siberian cave in 2008, there it is, and used it to predict Denisovan anatomical features.
01:24:57.000How much Denisovan bones have they found?
01:25:02.000Degraded DNA molecules from a group of human relatives who went extinct tens of thousands of years ago have been reassembled using a new technique yielding a genetic code for the mysterious Denisovans that meets the standard for modern humans.
01:25:15.000The findings are based on samples drawn from 40 milligrams of ground-up bone from a Siberian girl's finger.
01:25:29.000Why are they misgendering this poor Denisovan?
01:25:32.000Scientists saw a much less detailed genetic sequence they produced a couple years ago and addressed some of the deep questions surrounding the Denisovans, but they also raised a few new questions, including a basic one.
01:25:43.000Just how old was the sample that they analyzed?
01:26:47.000A number of now extinct human lineages not only lived alongside modern humans, but even interbred with them, leaving traces of their DNA in the modern human genome.
01:26:57.000These lineages included the stocky Neanderthals as well as the enigmatic Denisovans Known from only a few teeth and bones unearthed in the Denisova cave in the Altai Mountains.
01:27:08.000Click on that now, Extinct Human Lineages.
01:28:06.000Because we've only sampled a few of them.
01:28:08.000Well, that's what's really crazy, is that the sheer amount of material that you guys have excavated is just a drop in the bucket of what's still there.
01:28:32.000We know that in front of it, downstream of it, is decomposed bedrock.
01:28:36.000And decomposed bedrock in that area has gold in it, but it's very hard to recover the gold from because it's a clay and you can't wash it very good.
01:28:46.000But underneath that's another layer of bedrock.
01:30:25.000It's a constant changing environment on this planet.
01:30:30.000It exists within a range where biological life can survive, but Have you ever seen those structures that they found under the ocean outside of Japan?
01:32:19.000And who knows what it really looked like how many thousands of years ago before the water erosion, before whatever the impact did to it, you know.
01:32:31.000You know, nowadays people want to get something done, they always put in the effects on the climate will benefit us from this study.
01:32:41.000You know, if we do this study, it's good for climate change.
01:32:46.000I know the guys that are cloning the woolly mammoths are saying, you know, they want to bring them back and put them in Siberia to keep the permafrost from melting and the methane gas from escaping.
01:32:59.000But for some reason, I have an idea that as soon as they get one out there on the steps, somebody's going to come along and go, hmm, I'm going to shoot me a woolly mammoth.
01:36:37.000He goes, I love that Joe Rogan podcast.
01:36:41.000I want to make him some pistol grips for a 1911. I said, I don't know if he's got a 1911. He says, well, give me his address and I'll mail it to him.
01:42:17.000But it's crazy that this particular subject of the mass extinction event, which is related to Atlantis, which is related to the melting of the polar ice caps that It led to some sort of a mass extinction event in North America that all this stuff is connected and one of the big pieces of the puzzle is your property.
01:42:42.000And maybe one of the biggest pieces that's ever been discovered.
01:48:40.000You get over next to that muck bench and you look up 60 feet and up there's trees and there's boulders, not boulders, but big chunks of ice that can fall.
01:48:52.000And so we're real careful with our guys.
01:49:01.000We had a piece of ice we knew was going to collapse, and we kept working on it to make it happen quicker by undercutting it with the Giant.
01:49:11.000When you say the Giant, you're talking about the water sprayer.
01:50:50.000I mean, it seems to me insane that no one's contacted you that doesn't want to do some sort of collaboration with you and do some massively funded...
01:51:03.000It's gonna take massive amounts of money, and I'm not opposed to having them do that.
01:51:08.000But generally speaking, what I get is some guy goes, hey, I'd like a man of tusks.
01:52:26.000But don't you think that they hunted those things?
01:52:29.000Especially if they were above them, like if you were above them on a cliff or something like that, you could sneak up and throw spears down.
01:53:25.000So I'm thinking they kind of might have moved through a little bit and got a little bit farther south.
01:53:29.000Maybe they went somewhere else that was on the limits that was emerging into uplands.
01:53:34.000So maybe some nomadic people traveled with spears they had gotten from somewhere else and they made it to your place because that's where the mammoths were?
01:53:46.000The carnivores had a field day up there, because the short-faced bears, the cave lions, they had all kinds of stuff to eat.
01:58:21.000My time is better spent collecting it than it is trying to put it together.
01:58:25.000It's just amazing that there's this one spot in Alaska and it really makes you think how many spots are like that somewhere else that just have not been explored.
01:58:36.000Well, I told you last time that that guy, Chuck, says there's 10,000 of those dead animals on my property.
02:00:02.000I mean, if you go 20,000 years ago from us, I mean, look, we think about the pyramids and we think about Egypt and we really don't know when they made those.
02:00:13.000But Robert Shock, who's the guy who was a geologist from Boston University, who did the work on the Sphinx and the Temple of the Sphinx and found water erosion that indicates thousands of years of rainfall after they carved that thing.
02:00:31.000After they carved that area out, he's like, this is thousands of years of rainfall.
02:00:36.000And the last time there was rainfall in the Nile Valley was more than 9,000 years ago.
02:00:41.000So you have 9,000 years ago, and then you have thousands of years before that.
02:02:08.000I mean, I really firmly believe that we are sort of a reimagining of human civilization, and that human civilization, as it were, when they did construct the pyramids, was probably more advanced than we are today,
02:02:50.000There's also these drill marks, these cores that have been cored out that seem to indicate diamond drills, diamond bit drills, moving at insane rates of speed that have cored out sections of stone.
02:03:16.000It's probably not 2,500 years ago because that's just based on organic matter.
02:03:20.000It's also based on they find little pieces of organic matter that they can carbon date.
02:03:25.000There's no real proof that that wasn't done, that they didn't resurface things or refix things or try to update things.
02:03:37.000There's also the hieroglyphs, which is really fascinating because the hieroglyphs...
02:03:42.000They accept the hieroglyphs up to a certain point and then when the hieroglyphs go back and they indicate kings that existed 30,000, 40,000 years ago, they're like, oh, that's just myth.
02:04:21.000I bet whatever was going on back then, 30, 40,000 years ago, those people were probably insanely advanced in a completely different direction than we have gone today.
02:04:35.000And I think that if you wiped us out and left a few nomadic tribes of people and they repopulated the earth over the next 20,000 years, we'd probably figure out some completely new direction of technology.
02:04:48.000You know, I think people get on a path, they innovate on that path, and then everybody sort of chips in on all the different inventions that have been previously established, and they make them better, and they refine them and make new versions of them and make better stuff.
02:05:04.000And then it keeps going and going and going in whatever direction some other genius heads in.
02:05:10.000And there was probably some fucking insane geniuses 30, 40,000 years ago that figured out some stuff that we haven't figured out yet.
02:05:17.000And they probably were more advanced in that direction than we are today.
02:05:21.000We can't even tell what happened in the case of that Spitzer there, what happened 200 years ago.
02:05:34.000Do they think people were living there 200 years ago?
02:05:37.000Nobody thinks nothing about nothing because Fairbanks wasn't there.
02:05:41.000Fairbanks wasn't discovered until 1902. So they have no idea.
02:05:49.000Eight or twelve percent of the carbon dating, you know, they say that They spread out a long timeline.
02:05:58.00012% I think came in around 1600, late 1600s for that.
02:06:03.000Then it's under the 1700s there's more than the early 1800s and then pretty soon they have a okay 95% certainty that's 190 years old or something like that.
02:09:50.000So he ended up, when it was all said and done, with an honorary doctorate from the University of Alaska, who was in on it, by the way, on this tripartite agreement, and probably influenced by, you know, Childs Frick, the son of the industrialists that used to shoot his laborers because they wanted more money in the steel industry.
02:10:50.000A lifelong opponent of organized labor and his refusal to allow union workers at his mines led to the infamous homestead strike of July in 1892 in which 10 men were killed and 60 wounded.
02:11:02.000The same month Frick himself was attacked in a failed assassination attempt by a 25 year old Russian anarchist.
02:11:12.000In June of 1892, he slashed wages, evicted workers from their company houses, stopped negotiating with union leaders, and threatened to bring the Pinkertons, a detective agency for hire that amounted to a private army of thugs.
02:11:30.000And the guy, so the guy that his kid, Childs, is the one that was head of AM&H and he hired this guy Geist to go out and collect fossils in Alaska and he just didn't He just didn't limit himself to here.
02:17:29.000Let's just do the right thing here, boys.
02:17:31.000Is the hope maybe some of the younger scientists that are listening to this realize the potential of these discoveries and start working with you?
02:17:42.000The problem is in organizations like that, the younger scientists don't want to ruffle feathers because that's a career ender for those guys.
02:17:51.000Oh, he raised hell with the uppity-ups at Smithsonian or whatever museum.
02:18:18.000But some of the plunderings that have gone on, Mongolia, that area, that's been plundered for their cultural artifacts.
02:18:30.000And the people that know about it are at the Museum of Natural History, and they can't say anything about it because they don't want to lose their job.
02:18:38.000So these artifacts, do you think that there's just like these wealthy people that keep them in their homes?
02:18:48.000Because that was always the case with Egyptian relics, right?
02:18:51.000Because we don't even know how many tombs were raided over the, you know, several thousand years and where all those artifacts went and what happened.
02:19:02.000Because we know that, like, when they found King Tut's, when they found his...
02:19:08.000All of his remains in the sarcophagus and all the gold-lined this and gold-lined that.
02:19:15.000Imagine people found that 500, 600 years ago, 1,000 years ago.
02:21:13.000It says, it was unlike anything we'd ever seen, collection of stolen artifacts to be returned.
02:21:17.000It's somewhere in the range of 5,000 different things just in his house in a small town in Indiana.
02:21:22.000A delegation from China went to Indiana on Thursday to claim hundreds of artifacts that were seized from one man's private museum.
02:21:29.000He had items from all over the world, everything from ancient jewelry to human bones.
02:21:34.000Those Chinese artifacts are part of the 5,000 seized from a home inn from 90-year-old Don Miller, a man well known locally for his passion for collecting and global travels.
02:21:45.000He died in 2015. I remember seeing that story.
02:22:35.000How many of those dudes are connected somehow to the AMNH? Well, there's just a story out recently where they have like 12,000 human bones they've got to return to someplace.
02:22:47.000Yeah, on this letter that they wrote, this is a letter from this year in October.
02:22:53.000They're going to talk about what they're going to do with their human remains in storage.
02:23:44.000So for sure they've got some fucking human bones.
02:23:47.000I just want to know if they have some human bones that they got from your spot.
02:23:52.000Because if they did, I just think there's got to be some in there.
02:23:57.000If you've got spear points and you've got arrowheads, goddammit, you've got to have some fucking humans in there.
02:24:06.000I also, when looking up the American Lion, in the Wikipedia it says that the AMNH got something from Alaska in the early 1900s.
02:24:15.000A few additional discoveries came until 1907. The American Museum of National History and College Alaska collected several panthera atrox skulls in a locality originally found in 1803 gold miners.
02:25:10.000A felid skull was excavated and later described in 1909 by John C. Merriam, who referred it to a new subspecies of Felice atrox, Felice atrox bebe.
02:25:23.000The subspecies is synonymous with Panthera atrox.
02:26:09.000I mean, it just seems like if you guys want to know some stuff, how about there's this one extraordinary area in Alaska that's produced an insane amount of artifacts?
02:27:35.000This is a problem with archaeologists.
02:27:38.000This is a problem that they've found with trying to establish an earlier date for some of these Egyptian artifacts and the Temple of the Sphinx and some of these other things.
02:27:49.000People do not want to give up any of the power they have in controlling narrative.
02:28:24.000And what you said here is on your thing, it says, this is the document AMNH said they have no record of.
02:28:32.000I read it on Joe Rogan podcast a year ago and identified the spot in the East River where the AMNH dumped approximately 50 tons of my company fossils back in 1949. It started a bone rush.
02:28:44.000Though it only took two days for AMNH to issue a press release denying it existed, note that one of the authors, an employee of AMNH, co-wrote it.
02:28:53.000My goal is to get the remainder of the collection still stored in their basement sent back to Alaska so the scientific research can be conducted on them.
02:29:01.000I'd like to see these elitist snobs hauled in front of Congress and testify under oath about their misdeeds.
02:29:09.000Alaska is not the only state nation that AMNH plundered archaeological, paleontological, anthropological, and cultural resources and artifacts from.
02:29:20.000They're doing a disservice for the people that want to understand things.
02:29:25.000I mean, they are a blockade to understanding how there is this area that you own that has this insane amount of bones.
02:29:39.000And it's one thing that is so compelling to human beings that want to know what is going on.
02:29:48.000With the history of animals and the human race and also with this theory, this Younger Dryas impact theory, if they can just do a core sample on that area that you have uncovered that's 80 feet down that shows all this carbon that seems to indicate massive amounts of fire and something big,
02:30:09.000as you said, something that came in hot.
02:30:12.000And that there's evidence of this all over the world now.
02:30:15.000Because of the research that's been done on this Younger Dryas Impact Theory, they know that there's a layer of iridium that exists that indicates that something from space, iridium, which is very common in space and very rare on Earth, there's a layer of this shit that indicates we got hit.
02:30:34.000And if you add that to what you have, this layer that shows some fucking insane event took place in your area that led to all that burning and all these fucking bones, man.
02:30:50.000How is this not something that they are actively collaborating with you, working together with the scientific community to get an understanding of how this took place?
02:31:02.000Because I think it gets back to the whack-a-mole game.
02:31:07.000You know, some guy steps up and goes, I'll do it.
02:31:11.000And they go, well, you're not going to have work in the industry anymore.
02:33:30.000And I told you last time it took me three years of saying I only talked to Joe Rogan about it.
02:33:36.000Knowing that's not ever going to happen because I didn't want to talk to nobody about it.
02:33:41.000But when we talked about it, I got to tell you that my Instagram blew up and went from like 40-something thousand people following my page.
02:34:09.000The hope is that if we can continue to highlight this and could just continue to show people this is really important stuff.
02:34:18.000There's a reason why people are so fascinated by it.
02:34:22.000We have all been fascinated by the history of the human race and the history of animals and the history of whatever caused these extinction events.
02:35:59.000You got some hard-nosed motherfucker who doesn't give a shit who is willing to stick his neck out and tell the truth and also to show the world.
02:36:09.000Just the evidence that you have on your page.
02:36:12.000Just that bone with the human face carved in.
02:36:23.000Just the fact that you've got an insane amount of woolly mammoth tusks and bones and all these animals that they said aren't even supposed to have been in Alaska, and they clearly were.
02:42:28.000I won't get them all because I know a bunch of them were stolen.
02:42:31.000Well, let's hope that by this time next year, things have progressed.
02:42:35.000And when we talk about it in December of 2024, for the last podcast of 2024, let's hope we've got some good news for people.
02:42:43.000Yeah, and when I got ahold of you and I said, I don't know if I have anything, you know, I was trying to give you an out, like, just in case he's got nothing for me.
02:42:55.000I was trying to manage expectations is what I was trying to do.
02:43:04.000And I just don't want to disappoint you or disappoint the people that follow you or listen to these stories because, frankly, some of them might not be interested in it.
02:43:45.000If I have a guy come up and go, hey, I want to go prospect this creek, and I say, okay, go ahead and prospect it, and they go prospect it, and it comes in really hot.