The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2083 - Taylor Sheridan

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00:00:12.000 What's happening, brother?

00:00:13.000 How you doing, man?

00:00:14.000 Thanks for doing this, man.

00:00:15.000 Thanks for having me.

00:00:16.000 Dude, listen, man.

00:00:18.000 I've been a fan of your work for a while.

00:00:20.000 First thing I ever saw that you did was Hell or High Water.

00:00:22.000 But going through the...

00:00:23.000 My friend Andrew Schultz turned me on to Yellowstone.

00:00:26.000 I got a text message from him once, like at 1 o'clock in the morning.

00:00:28.000 Like, dude, Yellowstone, have you seen it?

00:00:30.000 Like, no, everybody's watching it.

00:00:32.000 Should I watch it?

00:00:32.000 He's like, dude, watch it.

00:00:34.000 So I got into Yellowstone. 0.99

00:00:36.000 And it goes like, Yellowstone is fucking great. 0.98

00:00:39.000 But 1923 is better. 1.00

00:00:42.000 But 1883, holy shit. 0.99

00:00:45.000 And on your recommendation, I finished it last night. 0.99

00:00:48.000 I was up till 1.30 in the morning.

00:00:50.000 I didn't sleep.

00:00:50.000 I went to bed at like 4. Because I was just laying around my house just thinking about it.

00:00:55.000 Just going, what the fuck, man? 0.99

00:00:58.000 I don't think anybody has ever nailed that time period like you did. 0.99

00:01:03.000 There's nothing close. 0.99

00:01:05.000 There's nothing even in the fucking ballpark. 0.99

00:01:07.000 Nothing. 0.99

00:01:08.000 Well, thanks.

00:01:09.000 You know, the reason I chose to do this for a living...

00:01:13.000 I was off to my third college I was going to go flunk out of.

00:01:19.000 And right before I left, I'd read Lonesome Dove.

00:01:24.000 You know, Murtry's book.

00:01:26.000 And then I saw...

00:01:27.000 The miniseries with Duvall and Tom O'Day.

00:01:31.000 And I said, I want to do that.

00:01:32.000 I don't know what that is, but that's what I want to do.

00:01:36.000 Wow.

00:01:36.000 So I started as an actor first because I thought that's what it was.

00:01:40.000 And then I realized I'm not doing that.

00:01:41.000 I'm not creating a story.

00:01:43.000 And then finally, you know, I got the CONUS to quit.

00:01:46.000 And write my own.

00:01:48.000 But yeah, 1883 was me.

00:01:50.000 Yellowstone's the punk rock me.

00:01:53.000 There's a fair amount of...

00:01:54.000 It has no plot, really.

00:01:57.000 You know, don't take my land.

00:01:58.000 I want your land.

00:02:00.000 And in that, I have a lot of opportunities to poke fun, but also kind of point out different points of views and kind of really study a way of life and a world.

00:02:09.000 But there's a lot of defiance in the way that I do it.

00:02:12.000 It's not surprising that critics hate it because It's designed for them to hate.

00:02:16.000 Critics hate what?

00:02:17.000 They hate Yellowstone?

00:02:18.000 And confounded by its success.

00:02:20.000 Oh, God.

00:02:21.000 They can't get their heads around why it's...

00:02:23.000 There's been... 0.99

00:02:24.000 New York Times has done multiple, multiple articles where they're doing like this essay on how is this shit so popular. 0.99

00:02:32.000 Oh, God. 0.99

00:02:33.000 That's so funny.

00:02:34.000 It's so funny that they don't get it.

00:02:36.000 1883 was me growing up, saying like, hey, let's take a look back at history.

00:02:40.000 Let's look at us and who us is as far as the Europeans who settled this place.

00:02:47.000 And let's not argue about whether they should or shouldn't have.

00:02:50.000 Let's just look at what the hell they went through.

00:02:52.000 To do it.

00:02:53.000 Critics are less relevant today than at any time in human history.

00:02:58.000 They really are.

00:02:59.000 They're off so much more than they're on.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, agreed.

00:03:04.000 And most people don't buy into it at all.

00:03:08.000 A perfect example is one of Dave Chappelle's specials.

00:03:13.000 The critic score was like 3% on Rotten Tomatoes, and then the Public score was 97%.

00:03:19.000 Yeah.

00:03:20.000 That's all you need to know.

00:03:21.000 That's all my shows. 1.00

00:03:22.000 Who the fuck are you? 1.00

00:03:23.000 Who are these people? 1.00

00:03:24.000 Who are these people that are critics?

00:03:25.000 I have a show called Mayor of Kingstown, which is all about literally the decay of an American city.

00:03:30.000 And I think it was 21% on Rotten Tomatoes and 94% audience rating.

00:03:36.000 Of course.

00:03:36.000 Some bananas.

00:03:37.000 And I just don't understand why they're still employed.

00:03:42.000 I mean, what is the purpose that they serve other than speaking to other completely disconnected, supposedly highbrow people that live in congested urban areas?

00:03:55.000 Yeah, and I think also that critics, and I don't know why, But they seem to feel a need to judge any project by how is it looking at the lens through today's new question morality.

00:04:10.000 What should we be making movies about?

00:04:12.000 And you can make a shitty movie about something that they support and they're going to support that movie.

00:04:16.000 But that's not my job.

00:04:18.000 My job as a storyteller is to pick a world and look through the window and not judge it and go, hey, here's what it was.

00:04:24.000 And here's the decision some people made.

00:04:27.000 And, you know, for me...

00:04:29.000 You know, the Holy Grail as a storyteller is entertain, Educate and enlighten.

00:04:34.000 Don't give anybody answers.

00:04:36.000 Just lots of questions to think about.

00:04:39.000 That's my job.

00:04:40.000 Because I can't stand to pay money and have somebody preach to me their ideas.

00:04:44.000 That's the fastest way to get me out of it.

00:04:46.000 That's the reason I hated Forrest Gump.

00:04:47.000 And I don't mean to say that. 1.00

00:04:48.000 I'm going to catch a lot of shit. 1.00

00:04:50.000 But this doddering fucking idiot is the only guy that can figure out the world. 1.00

00:04:53.000 Everybody else around him. 1.00

00:04:54.000 He's just going to go on a fucking run across America and everyone's going to follow him and that's going to heal the country. 1.00

00:04:59.000 I just was like, what is this shit? 1.00

00:05:01.000 Well, I think back then it was novel. 1.00

00:05:05.000 Because the idea was like, it could be so much simpler.

00:05:09.000 That this simple guy could figure it out.

00:05:12.000 And that we're all so disconnected from the solutions.

00:05:15.000 The irony is you couldn't make that movie today.

00:05:18.000 Because someone would be too offended at the portrayal of Forrest's character.

00:05:18.000 Oh, no way.

00:05:22.000 Well, my favorite movie that you can ever make today is Tropic Thunder. 0.99

00:05:27.000 It's a fucking great movie! 0.98

00:05:29.000 I'm so glad they haven't banned it. 0.99

00:05:33.000 They've done so many books.

00:05:35.000 And Tom Hanks, if you go and watch his portrayal of Forrest Gump, it's nothing compared to the way they do that simple Jack character in Tropic Thunder.

00:05:51.000 And when he says he never go full retard, like, you can't even say that word anymore.

00:05:55.000 No, but if you look at that movie, which was designed to offend, but also ridicule us taking ourselves too seriously, that's one of our jobs.

00:06:06.000 You know, it's, hey, we're all taking ourselves way too seriously, and if we can make light of this and make jokes about this, then all of a sudden it won't feel so serious, and we can be reflective.

00:06:15.000 Well, what's happened in your business has happened in my business, too, the business of comedy.

00:06:20.000 Like, comedy movies are dead.

00:06:21.000 They've essentially killed the genre. 0.98

00:06:24.000 All the movies that we grew up loving, like, all the movies like Something About Mary and, you know, fucking... 0.98

00:06:31.000 You can go down the line all the way down to Animal House. 0.95

00:06:34.000 You can never make any of those movies anymore.

00:06:36.000 And to go one step further, comedians, since Lenny Bruce, these guys...

00:06:45.000 Men and women whose job it was to push the envelope as far as it can be pushed to help us look at ourselves.

00:06:51.000 And you think of the greats, like the great comics.

00:06:54.000 Bill Hicks, Eddie Murphy, Sam Kennison, I mean, Robin Williams.

00:06:59.000 And you look at their acts.

00:07:03.000 Hell, look at, what's her name before she did a talk show? 1.00

00:07:06.000 Joan Rivers.

00:07:07.000 Yeah.

00:07:08.000 None of their acts would be socially acceptable today.

00:07:11.000 And I don't know that they were socially acceptable then, but that was their job.

00:07:14.000 Richard Pryor, he couldn't say 90% of what he said.

00:07:17.000 Yeah.

00:07:18.000 But you need people to sit there and push those boundaries.

00:07:21.000 Because art to one person, defensive to another, but you gotta have it all.

00:07:25.000 Yeah, we say, in the comedy world, we say we're the last line of defense.

00:07:29.000 Because this is where the woke meets the wall.

00:07:32.000 The woke meets the wall with stand-up comedy.

00:07:35.000 You can't have woke comedy. 0.99

00:07:37.000 It sucks. 0.98

00:07:38.000 It's impossible. 0.99

00:07:39.000 You can't always punch up and cater to everybody.

00:07:43.000 No.

00:07:44.000 That's not what's funny. 0.98

00:07:45.000 What's funny is the fucking weird things that people do and all of our hypocrisies and all of our contradictions and all the chaos about being a human being. 0.88

00:07:56.000 And if you want to never make fun of marginalized groups or never make fun of protected classes or never make fun of anybody that's downtrodden or disassociated or disaffa- you can't do that. 0.95

00:08:08.000 That's not stand-up comedy.

00:08:09.000 Stand-up comedy has to be everything.

00:08:11.000 It has to be everything that's funny.

00:08:14.000 Regardless of whether or not it's socially acceptable to make fun of those things.

00:08:18.000 And I think that we need to It's healing to laugh, right?

00:08:23.000 It's healing to, and by the way, if we're gonna talk about race relations, who are some of the people that help push that, who help people understand how you felt on, you know, how in the world when I'm 14 years old am I supposed to know how it feels to be African American in LA? How am I gonna know that growing up in a small town in Texas?

00:08:39.000 But then you see a comic who's from South Central LA make jokes about me, make jokes about living there, and you get some understanding of it.

00:08:46.000 You have some empathy.

00:08:48.000 You have some knowledge.

00:08:50.000 Well, we're in a weird time where everybody has a say.

00:08:53.000 And I don't think everybody should be able to talk.

00:08:56.000 I mean, everybody should be able to talk, but through social media, that gets just broadcast en masse to the world. 0.83

00:09:04.000 And you get these groups of people that they huddle up in these fucking echo chambers and they duke it out. 0.98

00:09:10.000 I think... 0.99

00:09:13.000 I think we have what's happening right now, and it's privilege.

00:09:17.000 It's from a coddled, this is the wealthiest nation, society in the history of civilization.

00:09:25.000 And people are so coddled that they have confused feelings with rights.

00:09:31.000 And your feelings being heard is a violation of your rights, and it's not.

00:09:35.000 You do not have a right to never be offended.

00:09:38.000 It's worse than that.

00:09:39.000 They've confused hurting your feelings with violence.

00:09:42.000 They literally say words are violence.

00:09:44.000 Disagreeing with someone is violence.

00:09:45.000 You've never seen real violence then. 0.73

00:09:47.000 You're talking nonsense.

00:09:48.000 Somebody said something once, and I've repeated it many times, but it's a great thing to say.

00:09:51.000 The worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

00:09:55.000 Even if the worst thing that's ever happened to you, you've got a flat tire.

00:09:58.000 Oh my god! 0.95

00:10:00.000 If you had a bunch of shit happen and you get a flat tire, like, I guess I gotta change my tire. 0.99

00:10:04.000 It's no big deal. 0.99

00:10:05.000 But if you're living this fucking sheltered life and the worst thing that's ever happened is you're a dude in a dress and someone misgenders you, you know, like, oh my god, this is violence. 0.97

00:10:17.000 Like, no, this is not violence. 1.00

00:10:18.000 You're a fucking guy in a dress and it's confusing, man. 1.00

00:10:21.000 It's fucking confusing. 1.00

00:10:22.000 If you want me to call you a girl, I'll call you a girl. 1.00

00:10:24.000 But this is confusing. 0.99

00:10:25.000 This is fucking confusing. 0.96

00:10:27.000 This is not violence. 0.99

00:10:28.000 The other thing is they'll say now, if you disagree with someone, you're phobic.

00:10:32.000 Yeah.

00:10:33.000 When a phobia is an irrational fear of something.

00:10:35.000 Right.

00:10:36.000 So disagreeing is not an irrational fear, it's disagreement.

00:10:38.000 Right.

00:10:39.000 And we've reached a point to where people won't, they can't even have a conversation because someone's going to sit there and scream.

00:10:44.000 As soon as you hear violence or you hear, then the conversation's over.

00:10:47.000 You're racist. 0.95

00:10:47.000 Right. 0.95

00:10:48.000 You're transphobic. 0.99

00:10:49.000 You're homophobic. 0.99

00:10:50.000 Whatever you are, conversation's over. 0.97

00:10:53.000 They've minimalized everything.

00:10:54.000 They've marginalized your position.

00:10:57.000 It's interesting.

00:10:58.000 It's terrible for comedy movies, though.

00:11:00.000 It's really fun for comedy, though.

00:11:01.000 For stand-up comedy, it's actually fun.

00:11:03.000 Are they running with it?

00:11:05.000 Oh, my God.

00:11:06.000 We're having a great time.

00:11:07.000 It's like my friend Ari said it best.

00:11:09.000 He said, this is a really great time for comedy because comedy is dangerous again.

00:11:13.000 Because comedy didn't used to be dangerous for a long time.

00:11:15.000 There's a lot of shock comics that were kind of...

00:11:18.000 They were saying things just to be shocking, you know?

00:11:21.000 And I certainly did that early in my career. 0.99

00:11:23.000 And now, like, if you have a position to defend, if you're going to go out on a limb, you're going to make fun of something that's dangerous, you've got to have that shit tight. 0.98

00:11:34.000 It's got to be good. 0.98

00:11:35.000 It's got to be...

00:11:37.000 Rory is a huge laughs it has to be it has to be something where people go oh shit I can't like Dave Chappelle is the best example that when he goes after something whatever it is it's just so goddamn funny that even though it's supposed to be something you're not supposed to talk about it's so good that everybody has to back off except the critics of course but what makes Chappelle so So good and so funny is he's going to say things that,

00:12:04.000 from a point of view, is true. 0.77

00:12:06.000 Like, it's rooted in some logic.

00:12:09.000 And he's smarter than about anyone who's going to oppose him.

00:12:13.000 And he's thought through his position so completely.

00:12:17.000 He can defend it.

00:12:18.000 You can disagree with it.

00:12:19.000 But...

00:12:20.000 You can't say he doesn't have an opinion and it's not grounded in facts or at least well thought out ideas. 1.00

00:12:25.000 Yeah, he's hammering that shit out every night too. 0.99

00:12:28.000 He's a fascinating guy. 1.00

00:12:29.000 The way he's doing it.

00:12:31.000 He literally will fly into a city.

00:12:33.000 He doesn't even book shows.

00:12:35.000 He flies into cities and just shows up at clubs and goes on after the show's over.

00:12:40.000 Yeah, or pops in in the middle of a show.

00:12:40.000 Really?

00:12:43.000 Like, he's done it to me before.

00:12:45.000 I was in Denver once, and he just showed up.

00:12:47.000 I got off stage, and I went into the green room, and I go, what's up?

00:12:50.000 What are you doing, man?

00:12:51.000 He goes, oh, hey, Joe.

00:12:52.000 And I go, what are you doing here, man?

00:12:53.000 He goes, I knew he was in town.

00:12:54.000 I thought I'd stop by.

00:12:55.000 I go, you want to go up?

00:12:56.000 He goes, should I? I go, fuck yeah! 1.00

00:12:58.000 So I literally went out and stopped the audience. 0.99

00:13:00.000 Everyone's leaving.

00:13:01.000 The show was over.

00:13:02.000 They were like paying their tab going home and I go yell at everybody on the stairs tell them to come back Dave Chappelle's here and the whole audience came back in And that's how he works things out.

00:13:13.000 So he just goes around and just fucks around and then slowly Hammers these bits out until he gets them to this like bulletproof form and then he puts them out on a special Wow.

00:13:25.000 Yeah.

00:13:26.000 It's fun.

00:13:27.000 It's a fun time for stand-up comedy, but it's literally the only thing that you can do without a committee.

00:13:33.000 Because if you're gonna do a movie, you're gonna have to have actors, you're gonna have to have writers, you're gonna have to have executives, studio heads, all this shit.

00:13:39.000 There's a lot of people that have their say in what's happening, or at least have a conversation about it.

00:13:45.000 There's no conversation.

00:13:47.000 With stand-up, it's literally just you.

00:13:49.000 It's one person, how do I make fun of this?

00:13:53.000 What's my angle on this?

00:13:55.000 And then you work it out, you put it together, and then you present it in front of people.

00:13:59.000 And if they laugh, it's good.

00:14:00.000 And if they don't laugh, it's not good.

00:14:02.000 And you've got to figure out how to make it work.

00:14:05.000 No, that's about the...

00:14:08.000 That's about the balliest art form.

00:14:10.000 It's just pure.

00:14:11.000 You are all alone.

00:14:12.000 Yeah, it's pure.

00:14:14.000 And my club out here, what I also love is we make everybody put their phones in a bag.

00:14:14.000 I love it.

00:14:19.000 So instead of fucking taking pictures of everything and filming everything, just fucking be there. 0.99

00:14:23.000 Just be there. 1.00

00:14:24.000 Put that goddamn thing away. 1.00

00:14:26.000 The phone's locked up in a yonder bag. 1.00

00:14:28.000 The phone's off.

00:14:29.000 Just experience a human moment.

00:14:32.000 Have a good time.

00:14:33.000 I know a couple of guys that went to your club last night that called me when I'm driving up today.

00:14:37.000 They said, have you been to his club?

00:14:38.000 I said, not yet.

00:14:38.000 And they're from LA. An agent from LA. He said, they say things in there you can't say in LA. Comedy.

00:14:47.000 He goes, it was hilarious.

00:14:47.000 I said, was it funny?

00:14:48.000 Funniest thing I've ever seen.

00:14:49.000 Every one of them.

00:14:50.000 Yeah.

00:14:51.000 Well, that's what it's supposed to be.

00:14:52.000 And Louis C.K. said, we built an Alamo.

00:14:55.000 That's what he said.

00:14:57.000 He says, essentially, because you've built the comedy Alamo.

00:14:59.000 He goes, we're in a war with the cyber world.

00:15:02.000 And he goes, and you built us an Alamo.

00:15:04.000 Wow.

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 But that's, you know, when I came out here, you know, and there wasn't really a comedy club and all these other comedians were moving out here because this is the only place we could do stand-up.

00:15:14.000 It was during the pandemic.

00:15:15.000 It's like all the pieces fell together perfectly.

00:15:15.000 Right.

00:15:18.000 It was like the universe opened up door after door at every step and then all of a sudden we're here.

00:15:25.000 And there was like 15 of us, and we're working in these like little rock and roll clubs and EDM clubs, and we're doing sold out shows, and the rest of the country is completely shut down.

00:15:36.000 You can't even do stand-up indoors.

00:15:37.000 And they all heard about Austin, that we were all out here, and then Ron White's like, you gotta open up a club. 0.99

00:15:43.000 And so I was like, okay, let's open up a fucking club. 0.97

00:15:46.000 And then we bought this building, and we actually had a building that we bought before that was owned by a cult. 0.99

00:15:52.000 Really?

00:15:52.000 Yeah, there's a documentary on the cult called Holy Hell.

00:15:55.000 You should watch it.

00:15:56.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:15:57.000 This guy came from West Hollywood and right after Waco, when the Cult Awareness Network started cracking down all these cults after Waco burned down and the feds killed everybody, they moved out to Austin.

00:16:09.000 The cult leader changed his name, got a new name, moved to Austin, and built a theater so he could dance in front of his followers.

00:16:17.000 And that was the theater I bought.

00:16:20.000 I started clubbing.

00:16:22.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 You know, my cousins were the federal marshals in Waco, and they knew Koresh.

00:16:28.000 And they had told the ATF, they said, we were just there three days ago.

00:16:32.000 Like, they can be whatever they are, but they're permitted up.

00:16:36.000 And they were driving down I-35, and he looked up and saw these three choppers, and he knew exactly what was going on.

00:16:41.000 And by the time he got to the Koresh compound, those guys had already been killed.

00:16:49.000 But he knew David and he went up to the, oh, maybe it was a week or two later.

00:16:53.000 I can't remember how long they held up in there.

00:16:56.000 But he said, let me just go talk to Koresh and see if I can get any of these women and kids out. 0.99

00:17:01.000 And he did.

00:17:01.000 And he walked up and knocked on the front door and took like 30 of them out.

00:17:05.000 Wow.

00:17:06.000 Before they just torched that place.

00:17:08.000 Yeah, they did towards that place.

00:17:10.000 And they denied doing it, too.

00:17:12.000 There's video footage of the tank driving in and shooting flames into the buildings. 0.98

00:17:19.000 They just fucking lit everybody on fire. 1.00

00:17:20.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:17:22.000 I don't even know what started it. 1.00

00:17:24.000 No, it was like one fed showed up and then they got shot at.

00:17:29.000 Or something happened.

00:17:32.000 Well, I know four were killed in the first when they went to hit that place.

00:17:36.000 I think like nine got shot.

00:17:38.000 I know we can pull it all up and look.

00:17:40.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 You know, at that time, there was this big panic about militias.

00:17:47.000 Because at the same time, you've got Ruby Ridge happened right around the same time. 0.52

00:17:50.000 Right.

00:17:50.000 You had all these, and the FBI was just getting kind of, not ATF, kind of getting spanked in spots.

00:17:56.000 And they were trying to clean up their image or prevent whatever.

00:18:00.000 Right.

00:18:00.000 And that was their mission du jour, was, like, get rid of all these militias.

00:18:04.000 Yeah.

00:18:05.000 And, you know, surprising little overreach on the governments.

00:18:09.000 Little overreach.

00:18:10.000 But also, like, every cult starts the same way.

00:18:14.000 Seems like a good idea.

00:18:15.000 We're going to do things right.

00:18:16.000 We're going to...

00:18:16.000 What's wrong with society?

00:18:18.000 Let's fix it.

00:18:18.000 Let's all commune together.

00:18:20.000 Well, they all start like this.

00:18:21.000 First, you need, like, a Jim Morrison-adjacent-looking...

00:18:26.000 Right.

00:18:27.000 Wannabe rock star actor.

00:18:28.000 Yes!

00:18:29.000 Right? 0.99

00:18:29.000 Who's so wildly narcissistic and yet charming that he can convince some shit like, I need your wife, but I need you here to do the garden. 0.99

00:18:38.000 Yes. 1.00

00:18:38.000 And then he becomes his own god, and then he's going to pick a date where all this shit's going to go wrong. 1.00

00:18:44.000 The world's going to end and I'm going to show you salvation. 0.99

00:18:47.000 That day's going to pass.

00:18:48.000 And then we need another problem until they wing that out and get a bunch of machine guns. 0.99

00:18:54.000 The guy out here, his name was Jaime Gomez, and he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist. 0.94

00:19:00.000 That was the guy who started—so how do you think that worked out? 0.97

00:19:05.000 So one guy in like 2000 or the early 2000s sent out—he left the cult and sent out a mass email that was like, hey, this guy's been hypnotizing me and fucking me for the last 10 years.

00:19:17.000 And then everybody was like, I thought it was just me. 0.54

00:19:20.000 That's the guy.

00:19:22.000 But when he was young...

00:19:23.000 See what I say, he looked like a model. 0.96

00:19:25.000 Oh, when he was young, he was beautiful.

00:19:27.000 He had like a chiseled body.

00:19:27.000 He was beautiful.

00:19:29.000 He was a yoga instructor.

00:19:30.000 I think that's how he started.

00:19:31.000 He was an actor.

00:19:32.000 He was in Rosemary's Baby.

00:19:33.000 He was like an extra in Rosemary's Baby.

00:19:35.000 But when he started the cult, it really just kind of started out as a yoga class.

00:19:41.000 And he was very charismatic and convinced these people that there was a different way to live.

00:19:47.000 And just like that, I'm sure you've seen Wild Wild Country.

00:19:50.000 No.

00:19:51.000 You've never seen that? 0.99

00:19:52.000 Oh my god, it's fucking amazing. 0.99

00:19:53.000 It's a Netflix series about this cult that took over a town in Oregon. 0.97

00:19:58.000 Yes, I do know what this is.

00:19:59.000 They poisoned everyone in the town.

00:20:00.000 They shipped in homeless people so that they could vote. 0.89

00:20:03.000 So they took homeless people and they brought them into the cult so that they would be a part of the community and they could vote. 0.99

00:20:09.000 And then they just took over the fucking town. 0.99

00:20:11.000 And then once they did that, they kicked the homeless people out. 0.99

00:20:14.000 And it's a wild documentary series. 0.84

00:20:15.000 If I wrote that screenplay, people would say that it's ridiculous. 0.70

00:20:19.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:20:20.000 Yeah.

00:20:20.000 There's a lot of those.

00:20:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:22.000 Yeah.

00:20:23.000 Hell yeah.

00:20:24.000 There's a lot of those.

00:20:25.000 Well, that's the craziest thing about 1883 is that you don't have to do any dramatic embellishment. 0.87

00:20:32.000 There doesn't have to be any fucking with the truth. 0.80

00:20:36.000 That is literally what went down. 0.94

00:20:39.000 Those people literally came here.

00:20:42.000 You were telling me on the phone that what percentage of the people that made the trek across couldn't even speak English?

00:20:49.000 Something like 40%.

00:20:51.000 You know, they used to come in from, they would come into, and of course what our government was doing was we needed people for a multitude of reasons after the Civil War.

00:21:03.000 So many of the workforce had been killed, you know, one point something million soldiers died that we know of.

00:21:10.000 We don't know how many other civilians.

00:21:13.000 So we needed people.

00:21:15.000 We needed people to settle the West because Manifest Destiny basically said, hey, there's all this land we bought from whoever we bought it from. 0.98

00:21:22.000 France, I guess, the Louisiana Purchase. 0.98

00:21:25.000 And we can't settle it because every time we try, the Lakota or the Comanche kick the shit out of us. 1.00

00:21:30.000 So we should send a bunch of Central Europeans and Eastern Europeans over there and let them get in the middle of it. 1.00

00:21:35.000 And so in all of these...

00:21:36.000 And you can look up, if you were to put it into the computer, you can pull up all of these...

00:21:42.000 Pamphlets they would put out and ads they would put out in newspapers in Romania and Norway, obviously Ireland did it everywhere.

00:21:50.000 Germany.

00:21:51.000 And said, come free land.

00:21:53.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 Come get your free land.

00:21:55.000 And when I started researching it, you know, there were people that would come from areas where it was against the law to swim.

00:22:02.000 They were not allowed to swim.

00:22:04.000 Wow.

00:22:05.000 No one knew how to swim.

00:22:07.000 It was against the law to swim?

00:22:09.000 It was against the law to swim. 1.00

00:22:11.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:22:15.000 That seems so insane. 1.00

00:22:16.000 What seems so insane, what really struck me, I mean, I did a lot of thinking about that show last night.

00:22:22.000 I did my binge, I ended the binge at like 2 o'clock in the morning. 0.68

00:22:28.000 And, you know, at nighttime, I do some of my most fucked up thinking because everyone is asleep in my house. 0.87

00:22:34.000 It's just me. 0.91

00:22:35.000 And I generally do most of my writing when everyone's asleep.

00:22:38.000 And I was just thinking, that's 140 years ago.

00:22:42.000 That's nothing.

00:22:43.000 I'm 56 years old.

00:22:44.000 When I was in high school, it was in 1983. So that was 100 years ago.

00:22:50.000 I was a sophomore in high school.

00:22:52.000 So 100 years is nothing. 0.99

00:22:55.000 A hundred years before that, you make your way across the country on a fucking wagon and you get free land. 0.98

00:23:02.000 A hundred years. 0.99

00:23:03.000 That's so short a period of time. 0.83

00:23:06.000 It's so hard for us to really appreciate how recent that is and how fucking insane the change in this country Over such a short period of time has been. 0.84

00:23:20.000 Meteoric. 0.92

00:23:21.000 Meteoric.

00:23:22.000 Nothing like it.

00:23:23.000 I just read something in the last day or two that, and I'm going to get it wrong, but 1937 is closer to 1984 than 2023 is to 84, or something like that.

00:23:36.000 Yeah.

00:23:36.000 And if you think about the gap between 1984 and 2023, and then what 84 was like, I was alive, you were alive, to now...

00:23:47.000 It doesn't seem like that dramatic a change.

00:23:50.000 Obviously there is internet, but you still had cars, you had phones, you couldn't take them with you, but you had them.

00:23:56.000 But 1937?

00:23:59.000 We haven't even made penicillin yet.

00:24:02.000 Right.

00:24:03.000 That's just 40 years.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, trench warfare.

00:24:05.000 Yeah.

00:24:06.000 Yeah.

00:24:06.000 World War I. No, they came over here.

00:24:09.000 They didn't speak the language.

00:24:10.000 They knew nothing about the land, knew nothing about the water.

00:24:14.000 By the way, you can be rest assured it did not say in that advertisement in the Romanian Times. 0.59

00:24:20.000 There's other people who already live there who will kill you when you show up.

00:24:24.000 And Ned mentioned any of that.

00:24:25.000 They didn't hear about the Indians until they got to Galveston.

00:24:27.000 And, you know, they're buying their supplies.

00:24:29.000 You need a gun?

00:24:30.000 Well, what do you need a gun?

00:24:31.000 Well, the Indians. 0.91

00:24:32.000 The who?

00:24:33.000 What are you talking about?

00:24:34.000 Who are Indians? 0.91

00:24:35.000 Well, you're going to find out.

00:24:37.000 Yeah, that was a part of Empire of the Summer Moon, you know, that these folks had just established these homesteads and had no idea.

00:24:45.000 And the Comanches would show up and just slaughter them. 1.00

00:24:47.000 They had no idea.

00:24:48.000 They had no idea that there was even a concern, and they had to figure it out along the way.

00:24:54.000 Yeah.

00:24:55.000 And you read it in that book.

00:24:57.000 And from a military standpoint, it's such an impressive achievement that Nakona decided he was going to raid all the way to Galveston.

00:25:06.000 And he marched through, burned Austin, went all the way to Galveston.

00:25:10.000 Everybody got in their boats.

00:25:12.000 Went out on their boats and watched them burn Galveston.

00:25:14.000 Then they went in and looted all the stores and found these parasols.

00:25:20.000 You could sit there and block the sun. 0.93

00:25:22.000 And the Comanche thought, that's the freaking smartest thing. 0.84

00:25:26.000 I wish we'd had fabric to do that with. 0.51

00:25:28.000 So all the Braves took these parachutes.

00:25:31.000 And when they rode off, there's thousands of Comanche warriors with parasols of all these different colors, getting the sun off their shoulders. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Running away with umbrellas.

00:25:40.000 Yeah.

00:25:41.000 But what a terrifying visual that would be.

00:25:41.000 That's insane.

00:25:44.000 I mean, I had no idea until I read Empire of the Summer Moon.

00:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:48.000 And then I had the author come in.

00:25:50.000 What is his name again?

00:25:51.000 S.G. Gwen?

00:25:53.000 Is that it? 1.00

00:25:56.000 Great, great fucking guy. 1.00

00:25:57.000 And he found out when he moved to Texas. 1.00

00:25:59.000 Like, he moved here and then was researching Texas history.

00:26:03.000 S.C. Gwen.

00:26:04.000 S.C. Gwen.

00:26:05.000 And when he moved here and he was researching Texas, then he was like, oh my god.

00:26:10.000 Like, how do I not know about all this?

00:26:12.000 How do I not know what this happened?

00:26:13.000 How do I not know about the Texas Rangers and how they were established and why they needed them and what went down?

00:26:20.000 Yeah, it was the Wild West.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, well, it's one of the reasons why Texas is such a crazy place.

00:26:25.000 It's like, this was kind of the last stand.

00:26:28.000 Yeah, and Texas was its own nation for, you know, 14 years, 13 years, and it's still, you know, that independence is still pretty embedded in it.

00:26:37.000 Yeah, they want to put it back on the ballot.

00:26:38.000 Every year.

00:26:42.000 This experiment hasn't worked.

00:26:44.000 Yeah.

00:26:45.000 Well, what's crazy is when you think about the United States only being established in 1776 and how recent that is in human history.

00:26:53.000 But the idea of a new country being established today seems insane.

00:26:57.000 Like, there's no way.

00:26:59.000 Impossible.

00:26:59.000 No, it's not going to.

00:27:00.000 You know, part of Oregon wants to secede and join Idaho.

00:27:06.000 There's a section up there around Humboldt County and up in that area in California, they want the same thing.

00:27:12.000 And it's understandable because you have people who, you know, you take the eastern half of Oregon, virtually all of them are in some form of agriculture.

00:27:20.000 They're ranching or they're farming or they're doing something.

00:27:20.000 Right.

00:27:20.000 Right?

00:27:22.000 Same with that part of Northern California.

00:27:25.000 Right.

00:27:25.000 You're doing timber, you're growing something, whether it's weed or whether it's whatever.

00:27:28.000 You're doing something agricultural.

00:27:31.000 And then you come to these big urban centers where people do not understand where their food comes from.

00:27:37.000 I read an article.

00:27:37.000 Right.

00:27:38.000 This is when I lived in L.A. as an actor.

00:27:42.000 And there was some uproar.

00:27:44.000 Some cheerleader had gone hunting and killed a deer or something. 0.99

00:27:50.000 And the picture made it in the paper or somehow.

00:27:54.000 Made it somewhere.

00:27:54.000 And there was this massive...

00:27:56.000 People went nuts.

00:27:58.000 And I'm flipping through the paper and I'm reading the letters to the editor.

00:28:04.000 It's kind of up there in the front.

00:28:06.000 And they were all about this girl.

00:28:10.000 And there's a picture of her. 0.99

00:28:11.000 And one of them said that all hunters should be killed. 0.99

00:28:17.000 How dare they go out and kill that animal? 0.97

00:28:19.000 Why can't they just go get their food at the grocery store where it's made?

00:28:26.000 No, someone got mad enough to write that letter and wrote it and re-read it and sent it.

00:28:31.000 And then it was printed, not from a sense of irony from the paper, I doubt.

00:28:36.000 And I remember thinking, God, people don't even know where it comes from.

00:28:39.000 They have no idea what it takes to put food on a table.

00:28:43.000 Any kind of food.

00:28:44.000 I don't care if you're vegan or not.

00:28:46.000 It's all been given to you and all you have to do is work and then spend your money.

00:28:52.000 Yeah.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, I've had conversations with people while they're eating meat saying, I can never hunt.

00:28:57.000 Like, I don't know how you do it.

00:28:59.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:29:00.000 You're eating meat.

00:29:01.000 You just hired a supermarket hitman.

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 You just exported the execution.

00:29:05.000 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 We're so detached.

00:29:09.000 And that was why it was fascinating to watch this massive uptick during the pandemic where the food supply got cut off for a while.

00:29:17.000 Yeah.

00:29:18.000 It was very weird.

00:29:20.000 And a lot of people got into hunting.

00:29:22.000 A lot of people got interested in it.

00:29:23.000 There was a big uptick.

00:29:25.000 Or started to want to take some responsibility, some kind of control measure.

00:29:30.000 Whether they get chickens in their backyard, whether they come to a ranch.

00:29:30.000 Grow food.

00:29:34.000 And there's plenty of places where you can buy it direct to consumer.

00:29:38.000 You know, when that hit me...

00:29:41.000 I've got three steers and two deer in the freezer.

00:29:44.000 I've got 60 chickens.

00:29:45.000 I've got a greenhouse.

00:29:47.000 I didn't miss a beat.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, well, that's the way to live, if you could.

00:29:52.000 But most people are like, well, not everybody can live that way.

00:29:55.000 Right.

00:29:57.000 Figure out how you can.

00:29:58.000 Yeah, you can.

00:29:59.000 You can.

00:29:59.000 I did it in L.A. Did you?

00:30:01.000 For five years I went...

00:30:03.000 Everything I ate was wild caught or it was grown from...

00:30:07.000 I bought it from the farm if it was a vegetable or fruit.

00:30:10.000 And in L.A., It really wasn't that hard to do.

00:30:14.000 Farmer's markets and stuff like that?

00:30:15.000 Farmer's markets for, heck, you could even get, you know, you could go get wild-caught fish at the farmer's market.

00:30:21.000 Right.

00:30:22.000 You could go get, what farm grew this?

00:30:24.000 Well, there's your kale or whatever you want.

00:30:25.000 It's all right there.

00:30:26.000 Like, it was actually not that difficult.

00:30:28.000 And I'd come back to Texas and hunt for a weekend.

00:30:31.000 And that was by, you know, go shoot three deer.

00:30:34.000 And that's a year's worth of food.

00:30:36.000 Three animals for a year.

00:30:37.000 Yeah.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, that's best case scenario if you can pull that off.

00:30:42.000 But most people are just so disconnected from it and so connected to the urban world where no one's growing anything.

00:30:48.000 Everything has to be brought in by trucks.

00:30:50.000 I was reading this story.

00:30:53.000 It's a book called Dissolving Illusions and it's all about the introduction of vaccines and it's about the pandemic diseases of the early 20th century.

00:31:03.000 And they were talking about just the horrific conditions that people lived in these urban cities before cars.

00:31:09.000 Because there was no buses.

00:31:11.000 So how are you getting food?

00:31:12.000 How are you getting vegetables?

00:31:13.000 How are you getting all these things into these cities?

00:31:14.000 These people lived with terrible nutrition, basically starved to death, living in places where there's outhouses that were shared by thousands of people.

00:31:25.000 Everyone's stuffed in these tenement buildings.

00:31:27.000 They're all breathing congested air.

00:31:29.000 Everyone's getting diseases. 1.00

00:31:31.000 There's no drugs to treat them, no antibiotics to treat them, and everyone's fucked. 0.99

00:31:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:39.000 And it's been that way, by the way, for 1,200 years.

00:31:47.000 As soon as massive urban areas, as soon as they sprouted up...

00:31:51.000 I mean, look at the plague.

00:31:53.000 Yeah.

00:31:54.000 That's what that is.

00:31:55.000 That's where it comes from.

00:31:56.000 That's a flea-borne illness that you get because you're living in such close proximity to rats.

00:32:02.000 Yeah.

00:32:03.000 And why are there so many rats?

00:32:05.000 Well, because there's that much vermin and filth and waste for them to feast on.

00:32:10.000 Yeah, I mean, it's nature's way of balancing things out. 1.00

00:32:13.000 Nature's like, well, this is a fucking problem. 0.96

00:32:15.000 Whatever you guys are doing here is not the way to do it, so have fun with this. 0.99

00:32:20.000 It's also, with the Native Americans, you look at the Comanche, you look at any of them, it was the disease from the first pilgrims. 1.00

00:32:29.000 All these things that Europeans brought over, I mean, it just decimated. 1.00

00:32:34.000 I think cholera killed 60% of the Comanche.

00:32:36.000 Yeah, they said that 90% of the people killed in North America were killed by diseases.

00:32:41.000 90% of the Native Americans.

00:32:43.000 Yeah, and that story hasn't been told properly, you know, and that's what I really appreciated about 1883. It's like, you talked about, I mean, this was like the end of the Native American Empire, essentially.

00:32:56.000 This was when there was still a little bit of buffalo left, they're still, you know, they're moving Indians to reservations, then the Indians that were out, they were resisting it, you know, and it's just, and then these people were trying to make their way In this fucking wagon train across the country. 0.64

00:33:13.000 What percentage of those people died that were trying to do that? 0.53

00:33:17.000 I mean, I don't know that there's any...

00:33:20.000 Anywhere along the Oregon Trail, you can drive along or, you know, there's markers just everywhere.

00:33:27.000 Everywhere.

00:33:28.000 And especially the further up you get into Wyoming and the further you start getting through, like, the Lander Cutoff and South Pass, then they're just...

00:33:36.000 And that's the ones that, you know, that got a marker.

00:33:39.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 So it's how do you know?

00:33:41.000 Right.

00:33:42.000 You know, the handcart, the Mormon Church brought a lot of people out and they didn't have a lot of money, enough money to give them full wagons, even though that's what they promised.

00:33:51.000 So they made these handcarts that people would pull from wherever they took off from somewhere in Ohio to try and get to Utah.

00:34:01.000 And so these people pulled them by hand.

00:34:04.000 They'd put their wife and their gear, their kids or whatever, and then they'd pull them.

00:34:08.000 These two-wheeled carts, like chariots without a horse.

00:34:11.000 And, you know, one winter, they left too late and got caught in the winter.

00:34:14.000 And the whole trick was, if you didn't make it to this certain spot in Wyoming by July 4th, you were not going to make it.

00:34:20.000 You were going to get caught in the past and you're going to die.

00:34:22.000 And something like 25,000 people died in one year.

00:34:25.000 Right.

00:34:28.000 Just mind-numbing statistics.

00:34:31.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 Insane.

00:34:32.000 Insane.

00:34:33.000 And it's so interesting that the early films on the West, they never covered that.

00:34:41.000 The early films on the West were like these really sort of shallow surface films that were fun movies, you know, Cowboys vs.

00:34:51.000 Indians, the Spaghetti Westerns and that kind of stuff.

00:34:53.000 But no one had any sort of real understanding of what actually went down.

00:35:00.000 No, you didn't.

00:35:01.000 The notion of getting free land that you could go farm with, by the way, nothing.

00:35:07.000 You're going to go somewhere with nothing.

00:35:09.000 There's no stores.

00:35:10.000 You're going to have to make everything.

00:35:12.000 You have to figure it all out on your own.

00:35:15.000 We're good to go.

00:35:37.000 They didn't want to.

00:35:39.000 They had to.

00:35:40.000 They were dying.

00:35:41.000 So they had to come.

00:35:43.000 So that's why everyone came.

00:35:45.000 Desperation.

00:35:46.000 Desperation is what settled the West. 0.53

00:35:49.000 Fueled by a manifest destiny, which was a cruel, very cruel, you know, insidious idea that a bunch of politicians had that says, hey, we can either send the army out there and just go to war. 0.85

00:36:00.000 And we've been doing that and we've been getting the shit handed to us because the Lakota were, until the repeating rifle came around, the Lakota and the Comanche, the Arapaho, even the South. 0.96

00:36:09.000 I mean, we did not have their skill level on a horse. 0.97

00:36:13.000 Their arrows were actually more effective than our single-shot muskets.

00:36:18.000 Like, they were a superior army and stayed that way. 0.99

00:36:21.000 It wasn't until we started sacking villages when the Braves were gone, when their soldiers were gone, when that dirty shit started, then it started turning the tide, and then when we killed the food source, that was the end of it. 1.00

00:36:31.000 Yeah, which is part of the wiping out of the buffalo. 0.98

00:36:34.000 I mean, it was a commodity for sure, but it was also, there was a concerted effort to cut off their food source.

00:36:39.000 It was, but it was also, you know, there was a demand.

00:36:46.000 Buffalo tongue was the number one delicacy in New York City.

00:36:50.000 The tongue.

00:36:50.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:36:51.000 The tongue.

00:36:52.000 Which nobody wants anymore.

00:36:53.000 No.

00:36:55.000 And then they sold all the buffalo skins to France. 0.98

00:37:00.000 And they made giant, massive, silly robes. 0.67

00:37:03.000 Well, at one point in time, the richest man, one of the richest men in the world, he dealt in beaver pelts. 0.95

00:37:10.000 Yeah, I don't doubt it. 0.99

00:37:11.000 There was fucking beaver everywhere. 0.99

00:37:12.000 They wiped out most of the beaver in this country. 1.00

00:37:14.000 Yeah, but they've come back.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, they've come back, but not nearly to where they were.

00:37:19.000 No, but they've come back.

00:37:20.000 It's pretty impressive how much they've come back.

00:37:24.000 And it's a pretty keystone species, so wherever they are, they build enough dams and they create a pond, it creates a wetland. 0.96

00:37:30.000 Have you ever eaten beaver?

00:37:32.000 No.

00:37:32.000 It's good.

00:37:33.000 That's what I hear.

00:37:33.000 Steve Rinella cooked it.

00:37:35.000 The tail was a delicacy.

00:37:36.000 Yeah.

00:37:37.000 The tail's disgusting.

00:37:38.000 We ate the tail.

00:37:39.000 It's just all fat.

00:37:40.000 They just were starving and they needed fat.

00:37:43.000 Maybe we didn't cook it right, but Rinella cooked it as best he could.

00:37:47.000 But he made like a pot roast out of the beaver hams.

00:37:50.000 Yeah.

00:37:51.000 It was very good.

00:37:52.000 It was like really good beef.

00:37:53.000 It was delicious.

00:37:54.000 It was surprisingly good.

00:37:56.000 Not like, oh, I could eat this, but like, I want more. 0.99

00:37:58.000 This is fucking great. 0.98

00:37:59.000 It was really good. 0.99

00:38:00.000 Yeah.

00:38:00.000 Really?

00:38:01.000 No, I think the most exotic thing I ever ate, and it wasn't, it was kind of a similar, I'm eating what they're serving situation on this ranch outside of Stanford, Texas, and we barbecued up a bunch of armadillo.

00:38:14.000 How was that?

00:38:16.000 I was so frickin' hungry, it seemed good to me.

00:38:19.000 You know, this was well before I knew they had leprosy.

00:38:23.000 I checked everything.

00:38:24.000 I'm good.

00:38:24.000 I'm 40 years in and I'm fine.

00:38:26.000 Is there a temperature you have to kill leprosy at?

00:38:28.000 Where you cook the food to?

00:38:29.000 Like trichinosis?

00:38:31.000 Well, look, you smoke it for like 12 hours, so I think anything's dead.

00:38:35.000 Just kills everything?

00:38:36.000 Yeah.

00:38:36.000 What does armadillo taste like?

00:38:39.000 It kind of tastes like pork.

00:38:40.000 Really?

00:38:41.000 Like javelina, then.

00:38:41.000 Yeah.

00:38:42.000 Yeah.

00:38:43.000 Yeah, which tastes a lot.

00:38:44.000 Well, they even look like pork.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, well, they are pork.

00:38:47.000 They're a peccary, right? 0.99

00:38:48.000 It's like a cousin of pig. 0.91

00:38:50.000 Yeah, somewhere.

00:38:51.000 And they've crossbred, I think, with the feral hogs a bunch.

00:38:53.000 Oh, have they really?

00:38:54.000 I think.

00:38:55.000 I shot one last year, and I turned it into chorizo.

00:38:58.000 It's edible.

00:38:59.000 Yeah.

00:39:00.000 Yeah.

00:39:00.000 It's not great.

00:39:01.000 The feral hog, I'm not...

00:39:02.000 You don't want to eat those feral hogs. 0.99

00:39:03.000 I've eaten a lot of feral hogs.

00:39:05.000 Yeah.

00:39:06.000 I shot one at Tejon, turned into sausage.

00:39:08.000 Did you?

00:39:09.000 It's good.

00:39:09.000 Yeah.

00:39:10.000 Those things are a problem.

00:39:11.000 I mean, they are...

00:39:12.000 They're a real problem out here.

00:39:13.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:39:14.000 And the destruction that they reap on the...

00:39:18.000 On the ecosystem.

00:39:19.000 I mean, that's the reason the bobwhite quail population has just plummeted.

00:39:23.000 Rattlesnakes have stopped rattling.

00:39:24.000 Because of the hogs? 1.00

00:39:25.000 Wow.

00:39:26.000 Yeah.

00:39:27.000 Yeah, one of the first things that happened when I moved out here is Ted Nugent invited me to shoot hogs from a helicopter.

00:39:33.000 I was like, I guess I'm in Texas.

00:39:37.000 Welcome. 0.98

00:39:38.000 Come shoot hogs out of a helicopter. 1.00

00:39:41.000 They're just gunning them down. 0.99

00:39:43.000 Have you ever seen Aporkalypse Now?

00:39:46.000 No, but is that with the Tannerite?

00:39:49.000 No.

00:39:50.000 Apocalypse Now is Ted Nugent and this guy that calls himself Pig Man, who has a show on one of the Sportsman's Channel, the Outdoor Channel.

00:39:58.000 They shot like 250 plus pigs in an afternoon, and they all did it out of helicopters.

00:40:07.000 And it's like... 1.00

00:40:08.000 It's fucking... 1.00

00:40:11.000 It's insane. 1.00

00:40:13.000 And you watch, you're like, how is this legal?

00:40:16.000 I guess it's legal because you have to do it that way. 0.99

00:40:19.000 They have so many pigs. 0.99

00:40:21.000 Like, here it is. 0.99

00:40:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:22.000 This is a forklifts now.

00:40:26.000 It's all slow-mos of headshots. 1.00

00:40:28.000 That's pig, man. 0.99

00:40:30.000 I don't want to put a member on it. 0.99

00:40:31.000 I'm having a hell of a time.

00:40:33.000 I got guys scattered everywhere.

00:40:35.000 All on dead pigs, gutting them, loading them in rangers, taking them, beat a whole lot of That's the other thing, the Hunters for the Hungry.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, that's a really good organization.

00:40:43.000 It's an amazing program.

00:40:45.000 Yeah, they shoot an incredible amount of these pigs and then feed them to people. 0.52

00:40:51.000 And it is good, man.

00:40:52.000 There's a guy out here named Jesse Griffiths who owns a great restaurant called Dai Due in Austin and he runs a school where he teaches people how to hunt, He teaches them first how to shoot rifles, then how to hunt, then they hunt hogs,

00:41:08.000 teaches them how to butcher them and cook them.

00:41:10.000 And he's an amazing chef. 1.00

00:41:11.000 And this guy, I mean, if you think that wild hogs taste like shit, talk to this guy. 1.00

00:41:18.000 Because he'll knock it out. 1.00

00:41:19.000 Oh, my God.

00:41:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:41:21.000 Some of the best meals I've ever eaten in my life.

00:41:23.000 He cooked diver duck, which everybody says are disgusting.

00:41:26.000 I've only had it once.

00:41:27.000 Yeah, I've only had it once from him. 0.99

00:41:29.000 Because they say the diver ducks eat all the shit that's at the bottom, all the muck that's at the bottom. 0.99

00:41:34.000 And most people say they taste disgusting. 1.00

00:41:35.000 He cooked it.

00:41:36.000 It was one of the best foods I've ever eaten in my life.

00:41:38.000 Really?

00:41:39.000 Yeah.

00:41:39.000 He just knows how to do it right.

00:41:40.000 He's like, it's not that these things taste bad.

00:41:43.000 It's just people don't have the knowledge of how to prepare them correctly.

00:41:47.000 Well, if you think about it, you know, you can go to any gun store or pawn shop and buy a 30-year-old Remington 700 with a scope on it for $400.

00:42:01.000 A box of bullets is going to cost you $30.

00:42:05.000 A license is going to cost you $35. 0.99

00:42:08.000 You can go shoot a hog.

00:42:10.000 You can go shoot a deer, which someone's got to manage them.

00:42:13.000 The ecosystem's demolished, so there's nothing else doing it, so they're just going to overpopulate and disease.

00:42:18.000 And you can create a year's worth of meat for $600.

00:42:23.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:42:24.000 And then the next year you cut it down to $300.

00:42:26.000 And then the next year you cut it down to $150.

00:42:28.000 Yeah.

00:42:29.000 And it's fun.

00:42:30.000 Yeah.

00:42:31.000 Yeah, it's a fun thing to do.

00:42:32.000 Yeah.

00:42:33.000 And it's very satisfying.

00:42:34.000 And you're taking responsibility for your own food.

00:42:36.000 Yeah, and still, there's people that think there's something wrong with that.

00:42:40.000 But that's how disconnected society is.

00:42:43.000 Look, I think one of the most absurd positions anyone can take is they're a vegan for an ethical reason.

00:42:51.000 It's preposterous.

00:42:53.000 You could do it for a medical reason, even though I don't know what that reason would be, but maybe you can't process meat, you can't process proteins like that.

00:43:00.000 But to do it from an ethical reason is absurd.

00:43:03.000 And the reason I say that is, I have plowed a field.

00:43:07.000 We're good to go.

00:43:28.000 That same thing, Ted Nugent has said this on this podcast.

00:43:32.000 He said, if you want to kill the most things, become a vegan.

00:43:35.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:43:36.000 If you're thinking about individual life, if you don't think that one life equals one life, if you think that small things aren't as valuable as large things, that's a totally different discussion.

00:43:46.000 And that's a weird discussion.

00:43:47.000 But if you think that all life is sacred, well, what about the lives of The ground nesting birds, fawns, what are the lives of rodents, insects, all those things are getting demolished.

00:44:00.000 The average organic avocado farm in Central California is going to kill, on average, around 19,000 ground squirrels a year. 0.99

00:44:11.000 That's not counting the billions of bees, because they're going to bring the bees up from Brazil to pollinate the trees, and then they're going to fucking die. 0.97

00:44:20.000 They're not sending them back anywhere. 0.98

00:44:21.000 They're not keeping them.

00:44:22.000 No, they're gone.

00:44:23.000 They're going to spray with some organic, which is probably just like compressed cayenne pepper.

00:44:28.000 They're going to spray the trees.

00:44:29.000 They're going to kill every bug, every plant, everything.

00:44:32.000 All you got to do is drive I-5 through the San Joaquin Valley.

00:44:37.000 And you won't see...

00:44:38.000 You'll see plenty of almonds.

00:44:39.000 You'll see plenty of all these different groves.

00:44:42.000 You won't see any birds.

00:44:43.000 You won't see anything else. 1.00

00:44:45.000 They fucking killed them all. 1.00

00:44:46.000 Yeah, that's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow that think they're doing something that's ethically correct. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Well, if you look anywhere in the ecosystem, take man out of it.

00:44:56.000 Virtually everything is living at the expense of another organism to the degree that if a certain weed grows up over the grass, it's killing the grass.

00:45:06.000 If the tree grows up, this little sapling grows up over the grass, it's killing the grass.

00:45:10.000 If the grass grows up before the weeds, it kills the weeds.

00:45:13.000 It kills the flowers, it kills this. 0.99

00:45:14.000 Everything is in competition with everything else.

00:45:17.000 There is not a vegan fish.

00:45:18.000 There's not a vegetarian fish.

00:45:19.000 Every single fish, every frog, they're eating another organism to survive.

00:45:26.000 Every one of them.

00:45:27.000 And that's what we did for as long as...

00:45:31.000 Whenever we split from apes...

00:45:34.000 That's what we did.

00:45:34.000 Apes still do it.

00:45:35.000 They talk about, oh, they eat fruit. 0.92

00:45:36.000 They eat fruit until they get ahold of those little frickin' panzer monkeys. 1.00

00:45:39.000 Yeah. 0.64

00:45:39.000 Then they go to town, those chimpanzees. 0.64

00:45:41.000 They didn't even know about that until that David Attenborough documentary.

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:45.000 You ever see that one?

00:45:46.000 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 Where they're eating the monkeys in the trees.

00:45:47.000 Oh, dude, they go to war.

00:45:49.000 If you ever wonder where our violent streak comes from, watch Chimpanzees.

00:45:54.000 Yeah.

00:45:54.000 Have you seen Chimp Nation?

00:45:55.000 No.

00:45:56.000 That's another great Netflix series.

00:45:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:58.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:45:59.000 Incredible. 1.00

00:46:00.000 They kill each other.

00:46:01.000 And I asked the guy, I go, how often do they kill monkeys?

00:46:04.000 He goes, we really didn't show how many times they killed monkeys because they do it so often.

00:46:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:09.000 I mean, it's literally their preferred food.

00:46:11.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 They're going to eat the leaves and the fruits and everything until they need that protein.

00:46:15.000 Yeah, they eat the fruit because it's easy.

00:46:17.000 Yeah.

00:46:18.000 But if they can find monkeys, they go after monkeys.

00:46:20.000 Yeah.

00:46:21.000 And they eat them alive.

00:46:22.000 They just start chewing on them.

00:46:24.000 There's a video of this monkey screaming while this chimp is eating them from the hips down.

00:46:30.000 Just...

00:46:32.000 You see his little face and just looks so much like us. 1.00

00:46:34.000 To watch him just get eaten alive by a chimp who also looks a lot like us is just so fucked. 1.00

00:46:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:46:42.000 That's the real nature.

00:46:43.000 That's not vegan nature. 0.98

00:46:44.000 That's not this bullshit, utopian, artificial paradise that people have created in their mind that they're doing if they're eating vegan. 0.97

00:46:52.000 It's just not true. 0.95

00:46:53.000 Unless you're growing all of your own food in your yard, unless you have a contained environment, Where you're composting and using mulch and you're making sure that everything that you grow, you're picking it yourself, you're just fencing it off to keep squirrels from eating it.

00:47:09.000 If that's not the case, you're involved in murder.

00:47:12.000 But even then, even then...

00:47:15.000 You don't think you're going to have a what happens when the grasshoppers come.

00:47:18.000 Right.

00:47:18.000 And they'll get through that fence.

00:47:19.000 Oh yeah.

00:47:21.000 And they'll devastate your crops. 0.89

00:47:22.000 You're going to have to kill the grasshoppers. 0.98

00:47:23.000 You're going to kill the grasshoppers. 0.77

00:47:24.000 And what are you going to do when the squirrel gets in?

00:47:25.000 You can't fence off your trees.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:28.000 So what are you going to do?

00:47:28.000 Well, you're either going to give away a lot of your crop, which you're not going to want to do, or you're going to come up with a way to, or you're going to run the squirrel off.

00:47:36.000 Okay, well then you just killed it because you ran it out of its habitat.

00:47:39.000 So it just dies a slower death.

00:47:41.000 Yeah.

00:47:42.000 So we don't get to exist without another organism fueling our existence.

00:47:49.000 Period.

00:47:50.000 I know.

00:47:51.000 It's such a hard thing for people to accept.

00:47:53.000 Well, I think it's because they're so dissociated.

00:47:56.000 You know, I talked about it in Wind River at the very end when he's giving this speech to...

00:48:01.000 I don't know if you've seen that one or not.

00:48:03.000 I didn't.

00:48:04.000 Okay.

00:48:06.000 So, this guy, it takes place in the wilds of Wyoming.

00:48:12.000 And there's a young woman who's an FBI investigator.

00:48:15.000 She comes and she's investigating the death of a Native American woman.

00:48:19.000 Culminates in a big gunfight.

00:48:21.000 And she gets wounded, but she doesn't die.

00:48:24.000 He visits her in the hospital, Jeremy Brenner's character, who's from this area.

00:48:29.000 And he says, you know, luck doesn't live in the wilderness.

00:48:33.000 It lives in the city.

00:48:34.000 You know, whether or not your car is the one that gets carjacked, whether, you know, someone's on their cell phone when you're walking through the crosswalk, that's luck.

00:48:46.000 But out here, you survive or you surrender.

00:48:49.000 You know, wolves don't kill unlucky deer, they kill the weak ones.

00:48:52.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 And that's the reality.

00:48:55.000 That's the reality of our life.

00:48:57.000 When you can walk from your condo to Erewhon and buy your $19 almond butter and never ask yourself, I can tell you, I can tell you exactly right now how much water it takes in a state with no water to make one almond.

00:49:14.000 Right.

00:49:15.000 It takes three gallons.

00:49:16.000 Right.

00:49:16.000 Yeah.

00:49:18.000 So if you want to amort it out, one almond takes three gallons.

00:49:21.000 How many almonds does one almond tree have?

00:49:23.000 10,000?

00:49:24.000 Well, do the math.

00:49:25.000 It's nuts.

00:49:27.000 Do the math.

00:49:27.000 Nothing comes without, there is an expense.

00:49:29.000 Nothing makes me crack up more than the stop oil people when they're blocking the highway with clothes made with oil.

00:49:37.000 Like, they have rubber...

00:49:39.000 This is one of my, like, drive me. 0.99

00:49:42.000 It's fucking insane. 0.91

00:49:44.000 I'm making a TV show about this. 0.99

00:49:45.000 Are you?

00:49:45.000 Right now.

00:49:46.000 Yeah, called Landman with Billy Bob Thornton.

00:49:47.000 Oh, wow.

00:49:48.000 About the oil industry and about energy.

00:49:50.000 I love Billy Bob Thornton. 0.60

00:49:51.000 That's a gangster.

00:49:52.000 I love that dude.

00:49:53.000 Gangster.

00:49:53.000 He's great.

00:49:54.000 And doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:49:57.000 Does not give a fuck. 1.00

00:49:59.000 And he was great in 1883, too. 0.99

00:50:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:01.000 He's great.

00:50:02.000 I love that dude.

00:50:03.000 Showed up for one day.

00:50:04.000 He goes, what am I doing?

00:50:05.000 Doing this?

00:50:05.000 Great.

00:50:07.000 Perfect.

00:50:07.000 Wicked.

00:50:08.000 Yeah.

00:50:08.000 Wicked.

00:50:09.000 That's when I decided I said, I got something for you. 0.94

00:50:11.000 Nice.

00:50:12.000 There's something we can do.

00:50:12.000 But people don't understand...

00:50:15.000 You know, they're mandating all these electric vehicles in California.

00:50:18.000 75% of California's electricity comes from fossil fuels.

00:50:23.000 About 15% comes from wind and alternative energy.

00:50:28.000 And then they still get a little from nuclear.

00:50:31.000 I don't know why everyone got off nuclear.

00:50:32.000 That's the best thing for the environment, believe it or not.

00:50:38.000 When I was researching Landman, I... I reached out to some guys on MIT has a climate change board.

00:50:46.000 They've got a bunch of scientists that are, you know, all they're doing is trying to figure out what is our next energy source?

00:50:52.000 Like, what is a reliable energy source that's clean?

00:50:55.000 And cold fusion is pretty much the thing that they've all penned is this is going to be the deal.

00:51:01.000 But they think we're 30 to 40 years from having it to where it can even generate enough power.

00:51:06.000 Right now, for the first time ever, They were able to create electricity through cold fusion that created more electricity than it took to create it.

00:51:19.000 So they just net zeroed it.

00:51:22.000 So how long before they can make enough of it, they can make it efficient enough that someone can charge us for it and it's still affordable to us?

00:51:29.000 How far off?

00:51:30.000 And then the infrastructure.

00:51:32.000 What's the method of cold fusion?

00:51:34.000 I don't even know how it's done.

00:51:37.000 I mean, it's the same...

00:51:38.000 Can you Google that?

00:51:40.000 Google, like, how is cold...

00:51:42.000 Because I know there was a cold fusion thing a few years ago, but they decided that it wasn't...

00:51:46.000 They couldn't repeat it.

00:51:48.000 But I didn't know that they've actually pulled it off now.

00:51:52.000 It's essentially, you're splitting an atom, but you're splitting it in a manner that doesn't seem to create the waste.

00:51:59.000 And I think that's the reason they're backing off nuclear.

00:52:01.000 They know something about the waste that they don't want to tell us.

00:52:05.000 Well, it lasts forever.

00:52:06.000 It lasts forever.

00:52:07.000 And you dig holes in the ground.

00:52:08.000 You've got to cement it in there. 0.99

00:52:10.000 There's spots in Nevada where they have these fucking trenches filled with nuclear waste. 0.99

00:52:15.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:52:16.000 But there's also emerging technologies about converting nuclear waste into batteries.

00:52:22.000 There was something about that, that there was some sort of technique that they were developing that was going to be able to take all that stuff and convert it into batteries. 0.96

00:52:32.000 But we have a reasonable fear of radiation, obviously, because it's, you know, we know, like, Chernobyl's fucked. 0.99

00:52:42.000 It's gonna be fucked forever. 1.00

00:52:43.000 Fukushima's fucked. 1.00

00:52:44.000 It's fucked forever. 1.00

00:52:45.000 It's fucked for, as long as there's ever been people alive, it'll be fucked three, four, five times that. 1.00

00:52:50.000 In the future, it'll be fucked. 0.99

00:52:51.000 And then we also know that, you know, they haven't been real forthcoming with some of the dangers of it, like the depleted uranium rounds they used during the Iraq War. 0.99

00:52:59.000 And all these soldiers came back, and they had Gulf War Syndrome. 0.95

00:53:02.000 And their babies were born all fucked up, and no one wanted to take responsibility for it. 0.99

00:53:08.000 But there's been some documentaries done on it, and I think the consensus is that a lot of those cases were probably due to the depleted uranium rounds they used, because apparently those fucking things are just lethal. 0.99

00:53:21.000 They just go right through tanks. 0.99

00:53:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:23.000 Like depleted uranium rounds of the shit. 1.00

00:53:26.000 But the problem is then these fucking soldiers would go to the battlefield where all this stuff had gone down and they're breathing in and they're absorbing all this fucking radiation and they weren't warned. 1.00

00:53:37.000 Well, look at all in the 50s when people used to go to Vegas and sit on the roof and watch nuclear testing. 0.99

00:53:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:53:46.000 I had a professor in college that was one of those guys and got like umpteen kind of fucking different cancers and died from it. 0.93

00:53:54.000 Wasn't that the story about John Wayne? 0.95

00:53:55.000 Yeah.

00:53:56.000 John Wayne was... 0.90

00:53:57.000 Well, John Ford, all of them died of cancer because they kept shooting in Monument Valley where they were fucking setting all these things up. 0.98

00:54:01.000 Exactly. 0.66

00:54:02.000 But did anybody like definitively connect John Wayne and his cancer to that?

00:54:07.000 Because I think I had read something about many people that worked on those films also got similar cancer.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:14.000 But, I mean, John Wayne looked like he smoked cigarettes and drank a lot, too.

00:54:17.000 I heard the guy smoke five packs a day.

00:54:19.000 Yeah, he looked like the guy was partying a little bit. 0.81

00:54:21.000 He was on, like, his second pig's heart.

00:54:23.000 He'd had, like, eight different organ transplants in the late 60s.

00:54:26.000 He was actually kind of a tank that he survived all this.

00:54:29.000 Yes. 0.93

00:54:29.000 Did he really have a pig heart? 0.93

00:54:30.000 They really did that with him?

00:54:31.000 No.

00:54:32.000 I think he made a joke about it on the Oscars.

00:54:32.000 Yeah.

00:54:35.000 Whoa.

00:54:35.000 They've actually successfully transplanted pig hearts?

00:54:38.000 Yeah.

00:54:39.000 How do I not know this?

00:54:39.000 I mean, have him...

00:54:42.000 I know they've done it with a friend of mine that has another person's heart.

00:54:47.000 Yeah.

00:54:47.000 He had a heart attack and a heart transplant.

00:54:49.000 Pig valve. 0.99

00:54:50.000 Pig valves. 1.00

00:54:51.000 Same shit. 1.00

00:54:51.000 Oh, pig valves. 1.00

00:54:52.000 Oh, I knew they were doing that.

00:54:53.000 Yeah.

00:54:54.000 They do artificial valves.

00:54:55.000 My friend Everlast from House of Pain, he can take a microphone and put it to his chest and you can hear his fake valve going like tick tick.

00:55:02.000 Really?

00:55:03.000 Yeah, it's weird.

00:55:04.000 It's weird.

00:55:05.000 You're like, yo.

00:55:05.000 He does it.

00:55:07.000 You got a fucking machine inside you keeping you alive, son. 1.00

00:55:09.000 Does it run on the energy of his own body? 1.00

00:55:11.000 It's a valve, right?

00:55:12.000 So I guess it runs as the heart pumps.

00:55:15.000 It opens and closes, just like the biological valve that you're born with.

00:55:19.000 But his is artificial.

00:55:20.000 Wow.

00:55:21.000 Yeah, I think it's, I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think it's titanium or something like that, like something very durable.

00:55:28.000 I know they're using titanium for other body parts.

00:55:30.000 They're using it for articulating neck discs.

00:55:33.000 So when people get bulging discs that turn to herniating discs and then they get degradation where it's pinching on the nerves, they have two options oftentimes.

00:55:42.000 They'll either fuse you, which could be fucking horrible, or now they'll give you an alternative, which is an articulating disc.

00:55:51.000 And guys have had those, like Al Jermaine Sterling had one of those done and then went on to defend the Bantamweight title in the UFC. Really?

00:55:59.000 And defended it more than anybody and just fucking dominated people. 0.60

00:56:02.000 Yeah, until he lost to Sean O'Malley, he was like, I think he defended the Bantamweight title more than anybody. 0.76

00:56:08.000 And he won the title.

00:56:08.000 Really?

00:56:09.000 And then after he won the title, he got kneed in the head during the title fight.

00:56:14.000 It was kind of a bad deal.

00:56:15.000 Like, he won the title by disqualification.

00:56:17.000 So a lot of people hated him, and they discredited him. 0.95

00:56:19.000 Then he got this operation, had this disc replaced to his neck, and then they had the rematch, and he fucking dominated the dude. 0.99

00:56:25.000 With a fake disc in his neck. 0.98

00:56:25.000 Really? 0.98

00:56:27.000 So it really was fucking him up. 0.98

00:56:28.000 The children of John Wayne, Susan Hayward, and Dick Powell fear that fallout killed their parents. 0.98

00:56:33.000 This is from 1980. Wow.

00:56:36.000 Wow, 1980. 220 cast members, it says 91 had contracted cancer.

00:56:42.000 Wow!

00:56:43.000 Oh my god, and this is pre-internet, kids.

00:56:46.000 And that's at that point, too, 1980, so...

00:56:48.000 Right, but you gotta think, this is like, it was difficult to track down this kind of information back then, and then to put it out on People magazine.

00:56:56.000 That's pretty wild.

00:56:58.000 It was because of where they were doing St. George.

00:57:01.000 Only 137 miles from Atomic Testing Range at Yucca Flat, Nevada. 0.99

00:57:06.000 Yeah, they just blew shit up out there! 0.58

00:57:09.000 Have you ever seen the map? 0.95

00:57:10.000 There's a video of the map of the United States.

00:57:13.000 It's actually a map of the world, but a lot of them happened in the United States.

00:57:16.000 And it shows all the nuclear tests that are happening all around the world, like when they first did it.

00:57:21.000 It shows the Trinity bomb, boom.

00:57:23.000 And then it's like, boom.

00:57:26.000 Boom, boom.

00:57:27.000 Boom, boom.

00:57:28.000 And then it gets into the 50s.

00:57:30.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:57:30.000 Watch this.

00:57:31.000 Go to the first one.

00:57:32.000 This goes on for 15 minutes.

00:57:33.000 I know, but it's amazing.

00:57:35.000 We don't have to watch the full 15 minutes.

00:57:37.000 Can you, like, triple speed or something?

00:57:39.000 Doesn't it do that?

00:57:40.000 We did it the other day, right?

00:57:41.000 Playback speed, normal.

00:57:43.000 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 Okay.

00:57:45.000 So just watch a little bit of this.

00:57:48.000 So the first one goes off.

00:57:49.000 Boom, boom.

00:57:50.000 They're doing them in the ocean.

00:57:53.000 Because that's great for the fish.

00:57:54.000 And also at the top will tell you who's doing them, so like the first couple are us.

00:57:57.000 So we're five in now.

00:57:59.000 It's the United States.

00:58:00.000 Eight United States.

00:58:01.000 We're like, I'm not sure if it works.

00:58:03.000 Let's keep doing it.

00:58:04.000 These are all in the ocean, by the way.

00:58:05.000 So far the ones we've seen.

00:58:07.000 Now Russia starts popping off. 0.99

00:58:08.000 Oh shit, Russia's got one. 1.00

00:58:10.000 Boom, they did a test. 1.00

00:58:12.000 And we're like, oh bitch, we're gonna have to do some more tests now. 1.00

00:58:15.000 You guys think you got a nuclear bomb, motherfucker? 1.00

00:58:17.000 We got 500,000 of them. 1.00

00:58:19.000 16, 17. Now, by this time, in 1951, the United States has 24, and Russia has 3. This is 1952. I mean, here, now the United States has 39. Now, look at this.

00:58:31.000 We go up to 45, like, quick.

00:58:33.000 And then Russia goes to 8. They're trying to keep up. 0.91

00:58:34.000 Australia snuck some in there.

00:58:36.000 Oh, did they really?

00:58:37.000 Look at that.

00:58:37.000 They got three.

00:58:38.000 Or Great Britain, didn't they?

00:58:39.000 Just decided to set it off in Australia.

00:58:40.000 Yeah, that's probably what they did.

00:58:42.000 The United States has got 66 now.

00:58:42.000 Look at this.

00:58:44.000 We're just popping off.

00:58:45.000 So now these are all happening in Nevada.

00:58:47.000 You're seeing them all pop off in the United States, so far at least, in that same area, which has got to be Nevada.

00:58:54.000 See there?

00:58:55.000 Look at that.

00:58:55.000 They're all popping off in that same area.

00:58:58.000 It's all one.

00:58:59.000 We just nuke in one spot of the country and then we let gambling in.

00:59:02.000 That was 40 in like a year.

00:59:04.000 Oh my god, that's so insane!

00:59:06.000 So it's at 139. October 1956, we're at 87. Oh, that's so insane.

00:59:14.000 And no one could tell them no.

00:59:16.000 Here's the thing.

00:59:17.000 It's like they are literally the people running the world back then.

00:59:21.000 And by March of 58, we're at 121. Whoa!

00:59:25.000 How nuts!

00:59:26.000 So, question.

00:59:26.000 So, we're setting off thermonuclear weapons.

00:59:30.000 And pretty soon here, probably some hydrogen bombs.

00:59:32.000 There you go.

00:59:33.000 67. We're at 510. Jesus Christ!

00:59:36.000 And we talk about things...

00:59:38.000 That's so insane!

00:59:39.000 We talk about things that warm the planet.

00:59:41.000 Yeah, that did a lot of warming for sure.

00:59:43.000 No one's mentioned the half a thousand nuclear bombs we set off.

00:59:49.000 Here's the question.

00:59:50.000 I know that the fallout from meltdowns, when reactors meltdown, that's pretty significant.

00:59:57.000 That's a big deal.

00:59:58.000 But how much of a big deal is the fallout from bombs going off?

01:00:03.000 There's people that live in Fukushima now, right?

01:00:06.000 Or Nagasaki right now, right?

01:00:08.000 They live in Japan in the areas that got hit.

01:00:11.000 They live in Hiroshima.

01:00:12.000 It's okay there now, right?

01:00:14.000 So how long is it...

01:00:16.000 Like, those areas where they did the test, like, what's it like now? 0.99

01:00:20.000 Is it fucked? 0.99

01:00:20.000 Is it... 0.99

01:00:21.000 I did read, at one point, I was reading a lot about all the cancer problems they were having, just like in Chernobyl, that they were having in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and those areas.

01:00:33.000 And I don't know if they're still having those issues three generations later.

01:00:35.000 Was this right after the bombs?

01:00:38.000 Where the people that survived, they got all that horrible radiation and then...

01:00:41.000 I think it came in waves.

01:00:42.000 I think there was a lot of cancers in like the three to five years afterwards.

01:00:46.000 And then again in 10, 15. We could probably look it up.

01:00:50.000 But it was a continuous...

01:00:54.000 The Russia count jumps really fast here in one month.

01:00:57.000 It did like 60 or so in one little area, and it looks like July, no, yeah, September of 61. Oh, boy.

01:01:05.000 Did you see that?

01:01:06.000 60 bombs went off.

01:01:07.000 That's the dude, that's Khrushchev. 0.99

01:01:09.000 That's the dude who banged his fucking shoe on the desk, remember? 1.00

01:01:13.000 He said, we will bury you! 1.00

01:01:16.000 See, find that.

01:01:18.000 You want to think how scary things are now? 0.99

01:01:21.000 You want to think of what it was like in the 1960s when Khrushchev is banging his fucking heel on the... 1.00

01:01:30.000 Let me hear it, because the fucking tone of his voice. 0.99

01:01:33.000 This is beat to the rhythmic shoes. 1.00

01:01:35.000 Oh, they made a song out of it?

01:01:37.000 Of course!

01:01:39.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

01:01:43.000 That was a scary fucking time. 0.98

01:01:45.000 And those are people that had lost millions and millions and millions of soldiers in World War II. Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:01:54.000 Where 20 million Russians died in?

01:01:55.000 Yes.

01:01:56.000 Something like that.

01:02:05.000 We live on earth not by the grace of God.

01:02:08.000 No, sir, by your grace, by the strength and intelligence of the great people of the Soviet Union and all the peoples which are fighting for their independence.

01:02:21.000 You will not be able to smother the voice of the peoples, the voice of truth which rings aloud and will go on ringing.

01:02:28.000 Death and destruction to colonial servitude. 0.74

01:02:31.000 Away with it! 0.74

01:02:33.000 We must bury it, and deeper the better.

01:02:39.000 He didn't bang a shoe.

01:02:40.000 So when does he bang a shoe?

01:02:43.000 It didn't appear in the coverage, but that other video I had definitely showed him banging a shoe.

01:02:47.000 Oh, so they edited it out.

01:02:49.000 Yeah, maybe they're like, that's a little intense.

01:02:51.000 Let's calm that guy down. 0.51

01:02:52.000 Let's get him a vodka.

01:02:55.000 See, there's something.

01:02:56.000 So yeah, here he is banging a shoe.

01:02:59.000 That's like a gavel or something.

01:03:00.000 That could be a shoe. 0.96

01:03:01.000 I think that's a shoe.

01:03:04.000 Looks like a shoe and it bounces.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, I think that's a shoe.

01:03:06.000 But that's all theater.

01:03:07.000 It is all theater, but it's a terrifying theater because they're actually killing people.

01:03:11.000 Well, the way that they're controlling their own people is by threatening.

01:03:14.000 They're basically saying the United States is threatening our existence.

01:03:18.000 Uh-huh.

01:03:19.000 Yeah.

01:03:19.000 And that's the exact same thing that the American government said about the Soviet Union.

01:03:24.000 And that's all that those nuclear testings were. 0.98

01:03:26.000 It's a dick measuring. 0.60

01:03:27.000 It's just like, look what we could do. 0.98

01:03:29.000 Yeah.

01:03:30.000 That's where communism goes, kids.

01:03:33.000 It seems like a great idea.

01:03:34.000 It seems like we should all share money.

01:03:37.000 We shouldn't be so materialistic.

01:03:40.000 And if we just pooled all our money together, everybody would have enough.

01:03:43.000 We wouldn't have to worry about anything.

01:03:44.000 And then the government just tells you what your job is.

01:03:47.000 I just want someone to show me an example of it working.

01:03:49.000 It doesn't work.

01:03:50.000 Just show me one.

01:03:51.000 It works in small groups. 1.00

01:03:53.000 If you can get a small group of bad motherfuckers, you could be communists. 0.99

01:03:57.000 You could make the argument that the Plains Indians tribes were communists. 1.00

01:04:01.000 You could make that argument.

01:04:02.000 Right, right, right.

01:04:03.000 Because they didn't understand possessions.

01:04:07.000 So I'll take the Lakota, for example.

01:04:10.000 Everything was predicated.

01:04:11.000 Your wealth was basically how many horses you had.

01:04:13.000 And those horses you stole from another nation, another tribe.

01:04:18.000 The Lakota would steal from the Pawnee. 0.99

01:04:21.000 They would steal from the Crow. 0.99

01:04:22.000 Everybody stole from the Crow. 0.99

01:04:24.000 They were all raiding each other, which is an important point that is kind of left out of the narrative.

01:04:28.000 And it's also, and they would obviously kidnap, and one of the reasons that they did that was, you know, these are all familial tribes, and it's survival, so we need a new bloodline to get in there.

01:04:37.000 Isn't that wild?

01:04:38.000 They also had low birth rates because of the riding of the horses.

01:04:38.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 And probably the low body fat, too, because it's a purely, for the large, for the most part, it's a pure protein diet.

01:04:49.000 And they're just eating meat.

01:04:51.000 They were carnivorous completely.

01:04:53.000 Yeah.

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 They would have...

01:04:57.000 You know, there were certain things, miner's lettuce and various, you know, annual, you know, seasonal fruits and things that they could find.

01:05:05.000 But come winter, man, that's six months.

01:05:08.000 You're eating beef jerky.

01:05:10.000 You know.

01:05:11.000 And horses.

01:05:12.000 And that's why they're following the buffalo.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:05:15.000 I mean, that is the way to do it.

01:05:18.000 The thing is, the people that live that way.

01:05:20.000 Communism worked on that thing because what did we remove from it?

01:05:23.000 Money.

01:05:24.000 Right.

01:05:25.000 As soon as you take a trinket and you assign a value to that trinket, then people need to go be able to earn that trinket.

01:05:32.000 That's such a good point.

01:05:33.000 And if you look at communism, there's plenty of rich people in communist countries.

01:05:39.000 Real rich.

01:05:40.000 They just all work for the Communist Party.

01:05:41.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 Right? 0.99

01:05:43.000 It's dumb. 0.98

01:05:43.000 I did a lot of research on Cuba for a project. 0.98

01:05:47.000 And, you know, interestingly enough, you know, they're given a ration of food.

01:05:53.000 Every month you get this.

01:05:55.000 You're going to get a certain amount of eggs.

01:05:56.000 You're going to get a certain amount of, you're going to get a sack of beans.

01:05:59.000 You're going to get your flour.

01:06:00.000 You're going to get your sugar.

01:06:01.000 You're going to get this.

01:06:03.000 You're going to get your coffee and you're going to get your rum because we'd prefer you stay nice and liquid and happy.

01:06:09.000 But you're not going to get to choose where you live.

01:06:11.000 You're not going to get to choose your job.

01:06:13.000 He's not going to get to do that.

01:06:15.000 And I was studying up on this thing because I was writing about a fisherman.

01:06:20.000 And if you, and they live on an island, so you think, well, they could just go out and catch fish and lobsters and eat that.

01:06:28.000 No, that belongs to the state.

01:06:30.000 If you are caught with a lobster, you're going to prison.

01:06:32.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:06:35.000 So you sacrifice any freedom.

01:06:38.000 So yeah, you may have free healthcare.

01:06:40.000 How good is it?

01:06:41.000 I don't know.

01:06:43.000 But you don't get to determine your own path.

01:06:46.000 It's a gangster system.

01:06:47.000 And then they have their athletics program, which is just off the charts. 0.99

01:06:52.000 They produce some of the fucking craziest athletes in combat sports, particularly in combat sports. 0.85

01:06:58.000 I know they're doing other things, but Tia Philo Stevenson, who was the guy who was the... 0.98

01:07:04.000 The rival to Muhammad Ali, but he never left amateur boxing.

01:07:09.000 He just won the gold medal. 0.98

01:07:10.000 I don't know how many fucking years he won in a row. 0.98

01:07:13.000 But everybody was like, if we could get this guy out of Cuba, this is a guy that could actually test Muhammad Ali. 0.99

01:07:17.000 He was that good.

01:07:19.000 And he was just in their Cuban program.

01:07:21.000 And everyone was terrified of him, because amateur boxers, they reach a certain level of ability, and they get a good record going.

01:07:28.000 And either they go to the Olympics, and if they can medal, that can ensure they get a big purse in their first few fights.

01:07:33.000 Yeah.

01:07:33.000 Olympic gold medalist, Pernell Whitaker, America, America.

01:07:37.000 But if they don't, they just get enough experience where they can go professional.

01:07:40.000 But in Cuba, they never go professional.

01:07:43.000 So you get guys that are 15, 16 years into a boxing career that's essentially always been professional, always been with the most elite coaches, the most elite sports, drugs, like whatever the fuck they have, whatever therapies they have. 0.87

01:07:56.000 They're not natural. 0.99

01:07:57.000 Like, you're gonna take whatever the fuck we give you. 0.99

01:08:01.000 And that's what they did with Russia as well. 0.99

01:08:03.000 China.

01:08:03.000 Yeah.

01:08:04.000 So, how many times did he win the gold medal?

01:08:07.000 Three golds in a row.

01:08:08.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:09.000 Three golds in a row.

01:08:10.000 That's 12 years of gold medals.

01:08:12.000 Then all these other golds too at other events.

01:08:14.000 Yeah, all these different events. 1.00

01:08:15.000 I mean, he was the fucking man. 1.00

01:08:18.000 He was the fucking man. 1.00

01:08:20.000 So what you're essentially dealing with is like a Mike Tyson type dude who's at like that level of like world championship caliber boxing, but you're having to fight amateurs. 1.00

01:08:29.000 So everybody else is just trying to get together a career so they can go off into the professionals.

01:08:34.000 This guy can never be professional.

01:08:35.000 So he is a professional. 0.99

01:08:37.000 So he's the best in the fucking world, but he's just not getting paid to fight Muhammad Ali on television. 0.97

01:08:43.000 Ali might have beat him, Frazier might have beat him, Foreman might have... 0.98

01:08:47.000 Some of those guys might have beat him, but we never got to see it.

01:08:50.000 But what we did see is that caliber of boxing come out of Cuba.

01:08:55.000 Some of the scariest guys that have ever fought in the UFC have come out of Cuba. 1.00

01:08:59.000 Yoel Romero, the freakiest of freak athletes of all time, came out of Cuba. 0.97

01:09:04.000 Really?

01:09:04.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 He never won the gold in the UFC, but he got to the fucking game when he was like 36. Really?

01:09:11.000 Yeah, man.

01:09:12.000 He's like in his 40s now and just jacked natural.

01:09:16.000 Still fighting.

01:09:17.000 I told the story before, I apologize if you've listened, but the UFC brought him to a doctor because he broke his orbital bone in a fight.

01:09:27.000 And they brought him to his doctor.

01:09:28.000 And the doctor contacts the UFC and says, where did you get this guy?

01:09:33.000 And he goes, he's one of our fighters.

01:09:36.000 They go, I've never seen a guy like him.

01:09:37.000 He goes, yeah, yeah, he's amazing, right?

01:09:39.000 He goes, no, no, no, you understand.

01:09:41.000 I've never seen a human being like this.

01:09:44.000 I've been a doctor for 35 years or whatever it was.

01:09:47.000 He goes, the tendons in his eyes are three times larger than a normal person's.

01:09:52.000 He goes, he's already healing.

01:09:54.000 He goes, the bone that's fractured in his orbital is already healing.

01:09:57.000 It started to heal.

01:09:59.000 It's like, where'd you get this guy? 0.98

01:10:01.000 Where the fuck did you get this guy? 0.94

01:10:03.000 Have you ever seen him? 0.99

01:10:04.000 I just want you to see what he looks like.

01:10:06.000 That's Yoel Romero.

01:10:07.000 Bro, and he's in his 40s here!

01:10:09.000 In his 40s! 0.99

01:10:11.000 And he's a fucking amazing guy. 0.99

01:10:13.000 An amazing guy. 0.99

01:10:14.000 He came in here and did a podcast with me and Joey Diaz translated.

01:10:18.000 So he can only speak limited English, but he was talking about Cuba.

01:10:22.000 He was like, where you at in Cuba?

01:10:25.000 There's so many, so many guys. 0.99

01:10:28.000 They're killers and killers and you become a machine. 0.97

01:10:31.000 You become a machine. 0.83

01:10:33.000 And I was like, oh my God.

01:10:35.000 What that guy went through.

01:10:37.000 So that is also a part of what Cube is.

01:10:40.000 They're forced into this.

01:10:42.000 If you were at the best level, you get to eat three times a day.

01:10:46.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 But if you're at the other level, you get to eat twice a day.

01:10:48.000 And you don't get to sleep in the good places. 1.00

01:10:50.000 You get to sleep in the shit places. 0.99

01:10:51.000 So all these guys are training with each other, all fighting for these spots, literally for food. 1.00

01:10:58.000 Fucking crazy. 0.97

01:10:58.000 Stevenson, then 22 years old, was rewarded with a house for himself in Havana and another for himself and his family in... 0.97

01:11:06.000 I don't know how to say that.

01:11:07.000 Delicias? 0.97

01:11:07.000 Delicias. 0.97

01:11:08.000 Stevenson later recalled, I had no idea a house in Delicias was going to be so big.

01:11:12.000 When I was shown the plane, I said, what is this?

01:11:14.000 A bunker?

01:11:15.000 Oh, the plans rather.

01:11:16.000 He said, what is this, a bunker?

01:11:17.000 So they gave him stuff. 0.99

01:11:19.000 They gave him like houses and shit. 0.95

01:11:21.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:11:21.000 Two houses and two cars. 0.98

01:11:22.000 They would treat them well.

01:11:23.000 They did that also for the Soviet athletes.

01:11:26.000 Right.

01:11:26.000 Like guys like Karelin, the guy who's, that's another experiment.

01:11:31.000 They literally called him the experiment.

01:11:33.000 Really?

01:11:34.000 You don't know who he is?

01:11:35.000 No.

01:11:35.000 I should have showed you the photo in the gym.

01:11:36.000 There's a photo of him that I have out there just constantly. 1.00

01:11:40.000 I need a constant reminder of what a pussy I am. 1.00

01:11:42.000 And it's this photo of Corellin who was like 6'2", 300 pounds and moved like a cat. 0.99

01:11:50.000 Oh, I know.

01:11:50.000 I know exactly who this guy is.

01:11:51.000 Yeah. 0.55

01:11:52.000 Literally, his move was to pick guys up and smash them into the ground.

01:11:57.000 So look at his face. 0.68

01:11:58.000 He was beating you up with the world.

01:12:00.000 So everybody else was trying to wrestle.

01:12:02.000 And what Corellin was doing was wrestling so that he could beat you up with the world.

01:12:07.000 He's hitting you, boom, into the world with all of his weight and all of your weight.

01:12:12.000 And he just kept picking people up.

01:12:14.000 And just slamming them.

01:12:15.000 And he would let them go back to the ground, and he'd pick them up again and slam them, and he did it to everybody.

01:12:20.000 Nobody could stop it. 0.91

01:12:21.000 He was that much of a freak.

01:12:23.000 And his parents were little, like little folks, regular-sized folks.

01:12:27.000 5'5", 5'7", just little tiny folks. 1.00

01:12:30.000 And he's just this fucking human cat. 0.99

01:12:33.000 He just got a double dose of whatever their best genes were. 1.00

01:12:37.000 So that's the other side of communism.

01:12:38.000 Like, they'll force you into this program.

01:12:40.000 And the killers, the guys like, this is him.

01:12:43.000 Look at what you do to people. 1.00

01:12:44.000 This is a fucking, that's a national champion from some country, and Corellin just got a hold of him, and he's just gonna fuck him up. 1.00

01:12:52.000 Boom! 1.00

01:12:53.000 So he's just throwing you into the ground over and over and over and over again.

01:12:58.000 Watch how he does this.

01:12:59.000 Boom! 1.00

01:13:00.000 The fucking amount of power involved in that is absurd. 0.99

01:13:04.000 That's a 260-pound man, and he's just hurling him around. 0.99

01:13:10.000 So that's the plus side of communism.

01:13:12.000 You can get some amazing athletes if you do it right.

01:13:15.000 You're farming athletes.

01:13:16.000 Yeah.

01:13:17.000 I mean, they're essentially like the best of the best doing it that way.

01:13:21.000 We could do it better here, for sure.

01:13:23.000 We definitely could do it.

01:13:24.000 We have the best athletes, for sure.

01:13:26.000 If you'd looked at, like, you watch the NFL, you watch the UFC, you watch...

01:13:29.000 The best athletes are right here.

01:13:32.000 Even if they've moved here to become a part of this, like Francis Ngannou who came to America, the best athletes are here, it seems.

01:13:40.000 There's a lot of really good ones in other countries.

01:13:42.000 They're real close, but when it comes to super freak athletes, capitalism seems to be the way to go.

01:13:49.000 It seems to be, especially capitalism if you don't drug test them well.

01:13:54.000 That's the best way.

01:13:55.000 Yeah, if you can get a little sloppy on the drug testing, it's going to help.

01:13:56.000 Yeah, that'd be nice, guys.

01:13:58.000 If I was running shit, the UFC has USADA, and then they got rid of USADA, and now they have Drugs Free Sport, which is going to do a similar program, but just do it more logically in their perspective.

01:14:11.000 USADA would sometimes wake fighters up at 4 o'clock in the morning or 6 o'clock in the morning the day of the weigh-ins, which is terrible. 0.99

01:14:18.000 Terrible.

01:14:18.000 Because they're cutting weight, and they're just- Right, they're exhausted, they're dehydrated.

01:14:21.000 And now you're going to test them. 1.00

01:14:23.000 On the day of a weigh-in, that's so stupid. 1.00

01:14:25.000 Like, you don't have to do that. 1.00

01:14:26.000 You can catch them.

01:14:27.000 If they're doing something, you're gonna catch them. 0.98

01:14:29.000 And if they're not doing something, let them go through this fucking insane process without disturbing them.

01:14:35.000 The weight cut is an insane process, and people who have never seen it before don't know how nutty it is, but I think they should be able to do some stuff. 0.93

01:14:44.000 I think they should be able to do some stuff.

01:14:45.000 I really do.

01:14:46.000 I think it's science.

01:14:47.000 I think it helps you heal better.

01:14:49.000 I think there should be, like, rational limits of what you can and can't do. 0.97

01:14:52.000 You know, I don't think you should be able to do full-on, like, trend and steroids and wild shit. 0.76

01:14:57.000 No, but can you do peptide therapy? 0.98

01:14:59.000 No!

01:15:00.000 That's my problem.

01:15:01.000 That is 100% my problem with it.

01:15:02.000 And I've done it. 0.99

01:15:03.000 If you look at the NFL's rule of all the shit you can't take... 1.00

01:15:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:08.000 Like, one of those guys could go to GNC and pick something up and end up testing positive.

01:15:12.000 It happens with the UFC all the time.

01:15:13.000 And it happens with guys that 100% are not taking steroids.

01:15:15.000 Yeah, they would have got some creatine. 0.69

01:15:17.000 Yeah.

01:15:17.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:18.000 And there was, who knows what they mixed it on, or the creatine spiked too high or did something.

01:15:22.000 Well, that was one thing that UFC's drug program did a fantastic job of. 0.75

01:15:26.000 If you went to the USADA website, there was a full list of all of the things that if you bought, you would piss hot.

01:15:32.000 So it's like whenever they find like a contaminated, because like one of the things we found out when we started Onnit, when we started this supplement company with my friend Aubrey and myself, when we started making this vitamin called Alpha Brain, we had a certain amount of ingredients that were in there.

01:15:50.000 And so then we would get it third-party tested.

01:15:52.000 And so then we get it third-party tested and third-party tests are like, you guys have this in there too.

01:15:58.000 Like what is that?

01:15:59.000 Why is that in there?

01:16:00.000 Well, it turns out, when you're getting your stuff mixed, they're not really cleaning those barrels out real good.

01:16:05.000 Right. 0.99

01:16:05.000 They're just tossing shit in and... 0.99

01:16:07.000 So if you're buying, like, fucking Super Pump from the vitamin shop, whatever it is, you know, that has, like, something that's supposed to boost your testosterone, and they're making it in the same place where they're making real roids. 0.99

01:16:07.000 Right. 0.99

01:16:18.000 Well, then you're getting...

01:16:18.000 Yeah.

01:16:19.000 You're getting a little...

01:16:20.000 Some of the stuff that works, works because it's roids.

01:16:24.000 You know?

01:16:24.000 Right.

01:16:25.000 I mean, that's the thing. 0.99

01:16:26.000 Like, those gas station dick pills... 0.99

01:16:29.000 It's probably just Viagra. 0.99

01:16:30.000 Uh-uh. 0.98

01:16:31.000 I've never tried them, but not according to my friend Brian, who was a gas station dick pill addict for a while. 0.87

01:16:37.000 He says they're steroids. 0.67

01:16:38.000 He says they have to be steroids. 1.00

01:16:40.000 Because they make you so aggressive, and they give you so much energy, and he goes, your dick is hard as a rock. 1.00

01:16:40.000 Really? 1.00

01:16:46.000 Because I was addicted to him! 1.00

01:16:48.000 You're going to see a big spike in sales of Dragonfire or whatever they call that shit after this. 0.99

01:16:53.000 They did find out that a lot of them had Viagra in it, and it's one of the reasons why they kept getting pulled. 0.98

01:16:57.000 But they would get pulled, and they'd come back with a new name.

01:17:00.000 So they were all done with foreign companies and sneaky companies, so it would be like Black Rhino would be one, and then White Rhino would be the new one. 0.80

01:17:11.000 You guys got rhinos? 1.00

01:17:12.000 We got the white rhinos.

01:17:13.000 Okay, give me one of them.

01:17:14.000 And people were essentially going to gas stations and buying these wild, unknown amphetamines, spliced in with Viagra, spliced in with steroids.

01:17:26.000 What exactly?

01:17:26.000 Rhino pills.

01:17:26.000 That's crazy.

01:17:27.000 Some Rhino products contain Sedenafil or Tadaphafil, according to the FDA. These are respectively the active ingredients of Viagra and Cialis.

01:17:37.000 Yeah.

01:17:38.000 But I think they also had some other stuff in there, man.

01:17:40.000 They had some other stuff in there.

01:17:42.000 Minerals, herbs, vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, it doesn't have to say what they are.

01:17:42.000 On the top.

01:17:46.000 Right.

01:17:47.000 Maybe also steroids.

01:17:49.000 Yeah.

01:17:50.000 Powered windstraw.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, there's some stuff that you can take in oral form that I guarantee that's not expensive. 0.99

01:17:55.000 And if you can get people like my friend Brian, who's completely addicted to these fucking things, he's buying them all the time! 0.99

01:18:02.000 Didn't he do reviews of gas station dick pills? 1.00

01:18:07.000 Brian Redman, you're the man. 0.96

01:18:08.000 He did, right?

01:18:09.000 He did reviews.

01:18:10.000 He's a character, man.

01:18:14.000 This is a dude who, when Pepsi Spice got made, he developed a website called pepsispice.com because they didn't have the domain.

01:18:24.000 So he bought the domain.

01:18:25.000 So he bought Pepsi Spice and then documented him drinking Pepsi Spice all day long and horrible diseases happened to him.

01:18:33.000 His life's falling apart.

01:18:34.000 He's losing weight.

01:18:35.000 He was making it up.

01:18:37.000 He just made up this fake blog about dying while drinking too much Pepsi Spice.

01:18:42.000 Really? 1.00

01:18:43.000 Yeah, this is the dick pill guy. 1.00

01:18:45.000 He's a maniac. 1.00

01:18:46.000 Did Pepsi ever go like, hey... 0.90

01:18:48.000 I think they did.

01:18:49.000 I'd like to introduce you to our attorney.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, I think they fucked up, though, in not getting the domain, and this guy had the domain. 0.72

01:18:55.000 And then they're concerned, is this guy actually drinking 15 gallons of Pepsi Spice a day? 0.99

01:18:59.000 Is he having fucking cholera? 0.99

01:19:01.000 Like, what's happening to this kid? 1.00

01:19:03.000 But...

01:19:04.000 How did we get on this tangent?

01:19:06.000 It was all about DUFC allowing peptides.

01:19:10.000 And we got there from nuclear waste and we got there from coal fusion.

01:19:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:19:14.000 That's a pretty good...

01:19:15.000 It's been a nice little run.

01:19:16.000 Yeah.

01:19:17.000 Yeah.

01:19:19.000 We're in a weird time in this country where people are so divided that they don't even want to look at the actual truth of things.

01:19:24.000 If they have like an ideological position on things, they just want to only hold on to that and never open their mind up to other people's perspectives.

01:19:32.000 And it's also at a time where more people have access to information than ever before.

01:19:36.000 It's so easy to change your perspective today.

01:19:39.000 Because there's so much information.

01:19:41.000 You can always get new information.

01:19:44.000 And there seems to be a, between both political parties, a feverish need for control that I don't ever recall.

01:19:53.000 You know, you can watch the debates between, there's a real funny one, between Reagan and Mondale.

01:20:01.000 And Reagan says at one point, you know, age, he was 74 maybe when he was running for re-election.

01:20:09.000 And his age was an issue.

01:20:12.000 That might be an issue in this upcoming election.

01:20:16.000 That would be a spring chicken in this election.

01:20:18.000 And Reagan said, listen, I'm not going to allow age to be an issue in this debate.

01:20:26.000 I will not hold the other candidates' youth and inexperience against him.

01:20:33.000 I mean, he just turned it into a joke.

01:20:35.000 But it was a joke and Mondale laughed.

01:20:37.000 I think they shook hands.

01:20:38.000 It was a civilized debate about what's the way to run this country.

01:20:44.000 That's pretty quick right there.

01:20:45.000 He did look pretty old back then.

01:20:47.000 I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience.

01:20:56.000 And Mundell laughed.

01:20:57.000 Yeah.

01:20:58.000 What a better time back then.

01:20:59.000 What a better time.

01:21:00.000 These two guys are in a debate.

01:21:02.000 And he's just like, oh, you got me.

01:21:04.000 Good job.

01:21:05.000 He just took it on the chin.

01:21:07.000 Yeah.

01:21:07.000 Like a man.

01:21:08.000 How come they can't do that anymore? 1.00

01:21:09.000 Look, even the fucking guy. 0.98

01:21:11.000 I might add, Mr. Truett, I might add that it was Seneca or it was Cicero, I don't know which, that said, if it was not for the elders correcting the mistakes of the young, there would be no state. 0.99

01:21:24.000 Mr. President, I'd like to head for the fence and try to catch that one before it goes over, but I'll go on to another question.

01:21:30.000 So, it was a time when you really feel like, and forget political leanings, both of those guys, it seemed, you know, they had different ideas about the way to get to the same place.

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.000 And I think we're in a very unique place right now where no one's even talking about where we're trying to go.

01:21:52.000 This is really about thought and beliefs.

01:21:55.000 No one's talking policies.

01:21:56.000 I haven't heard anyone talk about various policies in four years.

01:22:00.000 What we're talking about is...

01:22:02.000 Which, by the way, when you're talking about what you can believe and what's this and we're going to argue about arbitrary things that aren't arguable, really, and we keep our focus on that and everyone's so...

01:22:14.000 Impassioned about their position on some social issue that we have no solution to, then you don't focus on a $34 trillion debt.

01:22:21.000 You don't focus on the fact that we're so reduced in our position on the world stage.

01:22:26.000 There was a time when our military and our political resolve was so... 0.99

01:22:37.000 Aligned that nobody wanted to fuck with us. 0.98

01:22:40.000 And we could sit there and say, hey guys, we're not going to have a war in Ukraine. 0.99

01:22:44.000 We're just not going to do it.

01:22:46.000 And they go, okay.

01:22:48.000 You know, if you think about 9-11...

01:22:50.000 And George W. Bush was not a very popular president at that moment in time.

01:22:55.000 And people have forgotten that Al Gore and the Democratic Party...

01:22:59.000 And I didn't vote for George W. Bush...

01:23:03.000 They questioned.

01:23:04.000 They contested that election then.

01:23:05.000 They said it was rigged.

01:23:07.000 They said it was this.

01:23:08.000 They took it to the Supreme Court.

01:23:09.000 We didn't have a president, really, for almost two months.

01:23:13.000 Was that the dangling chats?

01:23:14.000 Yeah, that was the hanging chats.

01:23:16.000 And then cut to, you know, a year later, and he's woefully unpopular.

01:23:23.000 And then 9-11 happens, and He gave a speech, the best speech of his entire presidency, I thought, that galvanized the nation.

01:23:35.000 And I remember, and I lived in LA at the time when that happened.

01:23:39.000 And everybody was, they'd see a fireman or a policeman and they'd say, hey, thank you for your service.

01:23:46.000 Like, let me buy you a cup of, everybody in LA. And there was a sense of the sacrifice these guys and these men and women took on.

01:23:53.000 And we were really unified moving forward against what we needed to do to protect our sovereignty and protect the people of the country. 0.80

01:24:01.000 Then it got fucked up, and then it became about oil, and it became about a bunch of other things. 0.91

01:24:04.000 But there was a time. 0.98

01:24:05.000 That time was the best of us. 0.99

01:24:07.000 That time, I remember driving to work, and I was driving down the street, and every fucking car had an American flag on it. 0.98

01:24:14.000 My friend Jay London used to sell them. 0.98

01:24:17.000 But I don't know.

01:24:18.000 Yeah, everyone had them.

01:24:20.000 And this is Los Angeles.

01:24:20.000 Everyone had them.

01:24:22.000 This is as liberal a city as there is in America.

01:24:25.000 They woke right the fuck up, and everybody came together, and people were nicer for a while.

01:24:29.000 It was interesting.

01:24:30.000 It was a really unique time.

01:24:33.000 But it didn't last.

01:24:33.000 You're right.

01:24:34.000 It didn't last.

01:24:35.000 But also, it was like, wait, why are we going to Iraq?

01:24:37.000 It got real squirrely, real fast.

01:24:40.000 And the weapons of mass destruction thing and all that other stuff. 0.99

01:24:43.000 It's like, God damn it. 0.97

01:24:44.000 We had the world's faith and love for a little bit. 0.99

01:24:49.000 But we did what we do.

01:24:52.000 We did what we always do.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, we found a way to make a business of it.

01:24:56.000 Well, it's what people do.

01:24:58.000 That's their job, unfortunately.

01:25:00.000 It's human nature and you're not going to find it.

01:25:01.000 You can pick the historical moment and we can find someone who exploited it.

01:25:05.000 That's why it's fascinating to watch something like 1883 because you're seeing human beings exploiting human beings in this very raw way.

01:25:15.000 One thing that really got me was the robbers, the groups of robbers, because I didn't really take that into consideration either.

01:25:21.000 But it wasn't just that you had to worry about the Comanche. 1.00

01:25:23.000 You had to worry about these groups of robbers who would just show up and kill everybody.

01:25:27.000 That actually, if you look at statistics, bandits killed more of these immigrants moving north and people on the Oregon Trail than the Native Americans did.

01:25:38.000 Wow!

01:25:39.000 I never even considered that until the show.

01:25:41.000 I mean, I knew they existed, but I didn't think of them as that big of a factor for whatever reason.

01:25:46.000 Well, it's this.

01:25:46.000 It's an area with absolutely no governance.

01:25:49.000 No rule of law whatsoever.

01:25:51.000 None.

01:25:53.000 And I think that's something that people need to be thinking about now.

01:25:56.000 I always think, what am I leaving my son?

01:26:02.000 What's the world like in 30 years for him?

01:26:05.000 And decisions made now, we sit here and break rules that are clearly established in a constitution which has existed for a couple hundred years and held this place together.

01:26:16.000 When we start manipulating that document to maintain relevance for a very short-term goal for a politician or for one specific cause, whatever that cause is, when we start manipulating that and abandoning the rule of law, when we start doing that 30 years from now,

01:26:33.000 That benchmark is what's going to be used against all the people that pushed it right now.

01:26:37.000 That's what scares me right now about all this talk about primaries, about limiting people from primaries.

01:26:45.000 See if you can find this.

01:26:46.000 They were saying that many states have chosen to only have Joe Biden To vote for in the primaries?

01:26:55.000 But that sounds like such a bad idea.

01:26:59.000 This is my point.

01:27:01.000 And people can think of Donald Trump however they want to think of Donald Trump.

01:27:05.000 It doesn't really matter who the individual is.

01:27:09.000 A court in Colorado is going to essentially make a decision based upon a trial that has not happened yet.

01:27:18.000 In other words, they're basically saying he's guilty of something that he hasn't been tried for, and therefore they're removing him from a ballot.

01:27:24.000 Right.

01:27:26.000 And right now, maybe the Democrats feel as though they're justified in that action because they're so terrified of what Donald Trump may do if he becomes president again.

01:27:38.000 But are they thinking about what's going to happen in 20 years or 30 years?

01:27:41.000 Because this has now been established.

01:27:43.000 And at some point...

01:27:45.000 The Republicans will gain control.

01:27:46.000 They will get a majority in the Senate again.

01:27:48.000 Look through history.

01:27:49.000 It just swings back and forth.

01:27:51.000 For eight years, it's this, and eight years, it's that.

01:27:53.000 So another party will be in control, and that party can use all of these manipulations of rules to maintain control.

01:28:00.000 And that's when you start to have a dictatorship at the end of the day.

01:28:04.000 Regardless of who's left, right, doesn't make a difference.

01:28:07.000 Exactly.

01:28:07.000 And if you let that happen, Biden won't have challengers in North Carolina 2024 primary election.

01:28:14.000 State Democratic Party decides North Carolina Democratic Party declined to allow any Biden challengers on the ballot for the 2024 primary.

01:28:22.000 They made a similar effort in 2020 attempting to put only Donald Trump on the ballot that year.

01:28:28.000 Both of those are terrible ideas.

01:28:31.000 In order to get on the ballot, you need to have donors in the state and actively campaigning in the state.

01:28:38.000 Neither of them have been here this cycle.

01:28:42.000 Who are the other people?

01:28:42.000 Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson.

01:28:44.000 How crazy is it?

01:28:45.000 Who's Dean? 1.00

01:28:45.000 Who the fuck are you, Dean? 1.00

01:28:46.000 I never heard your voice. 1.00

01:28:48.000 I've never seen your face.

01:28:50.000 Come on, let me see Dean.

01:28:52.000 Imagine if Dean pulls it off.

01:28:54.000 Maybe Dean's the man.

01:28:55.000 I don't even know.

01:28:56.000 Isn't Marianne Williamson like a self-help writer? 1.00

01:29:01.000 She's a self-help writer? 0.99

01:29:02.000 Self-help author from California.

01:29:06.000 I want to think highly of everybody without prejudice, but if you tell me you're a self-help author from California, I automatically go, what?

01:29:14.000 She's going to have to do a lot of counseling when she gets to D.C. Yeah. 0.99

01:29:18.000 I mean, is she going to self-help the world?

01:29:20.000 Maybe she's good.

01:29:22.000 I don't know.

01:29:22.000 But either one of them have almost no chance against Biden anyway, right?

01:29:26.000 So why are they limiting people's choice?

01:29:29.000 You should never limit people's ability to choose.

01:29:32.000 I mean, maybe those people can get on a debate stage and rock the world and all of a sudden there's a big movement behind them, but that's supposed to be what it's about, kids.

01:29:40.000 That's supposed to be what the whole thing is about.

01:29:41.000 If someone Who comes along in the more compelling candidate?

01:29:44.000 You're supposed to get them.

01:29:46.000 The party's not supposed to be able to decide who the guy is against the will of the people, because that's a lot like communism, kids!

01:29:52.000 It is! 0.72

01:29:54.000 It's fascist!

01:29:54.000 It is!

01:29:55.000 It's fascist! 0.99

01:29:55.000 It's crazy! 0.99

01:29:56.000 It's crazy that you think you can do it because you think your team is right.

01:29:59.000 We're the good guys.

01:30:01.000 Well, if you think you're so right, then why won't you allow your positions to be challenged so that you can prove how much better they are?

01:30:08.000 Because they have the ability to enact control.

01:30:11.000 And when you give people the ability to enact control, they always take it. 0.99

01:30:14.000 That's why you have to always resist them moving those fucking boundaries. 0.98

01:30:18.000 Because it's just human nature. 0.99

01:30:21.000 You could call it evil, you could say all these different things, you could call it greedy, it's human nature to want more.

01:30:26.000 And when you have a certain amount of control, and you get a lot more things done with more control, you try to get more control.

01:30:31.000 And then you try to figure out strategies.

01:30:33.000 What can we do in order to make it important that we pass a new law?

01:30:38.000 So now we have the NDAA. Now we have the Patriot Act.

01:30:42.000 Now we have this.

01:30:43.000 Okay, now we have a lot more control.

01:30:45.000 Now we have the NSA spying on everybody.

01:30:47.000 Much more control.

01:30:47.000 Whew!

01:30:49.000 And every time this happens, you get more and more.

01:30:52.000 The problem is those politicians, it doesn't matter if you're a congresswoman from Indiana or California or Texas. 0.99

01:30:58.000 Yes, you were elected by a certain district and you're representing that district, but you're also representing every other citizen of the United States.

01:31:07.000 You're a U.S. congressperson, okay?

01:31:09.000 And you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution above and beyond everything else.

01:31:14.000 And they're manipulating the document.

01:31:17.000 For very short-term game.

01:31:19.000 And I'm not blaming.

01:31:19.000 They're all doing it.

01:31:21.000 And people need to wake up to that because they're going to manipulate it in a way that is going to...

01:31:30.000 Look, there's plenty of countries in this world that have elections.

01:31:36.000 Now, we're not a democracy.

01:31:38.000 We're a republic.

01:31:39.000 But they have their free elections, and they got one candidate.

01:31:43.000 Yeah.

01:31:44.000 And guess what?

01:31:45.000 That candidate always seems to win. 0.97

01:31:47.000 Crazy!

01:31:47.000 With an overwhelming majority.

01:31:49.000 Weird!

01:31:49.000 Isn't that shocking?

01:31:50.000 Crazy how that happens. 0.92

01:31:51.000 And anybody who's a rabble rouser gets shot. 1.00

01:31:53.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:31:54.000 Sounds good.

01:31:55.000 Sounds perfect.

01:31:57.000 It's just, we should know this by now.

01:31:59.000 You know?

01:32:00.000 Listen, how about you leave the document alone, we'll let you keep insider trading.

01:32:04.000 Just like, well, look aside.

01:32:07.000 I'm not hating the game.

01:32:09.000 I'm not hating the player.

01:32:10.000 I saw a really interesting thing about these senators on both sides that have been in for 20, 30 years.

01:32:10.000 Did you see that?

01:32:16.000 They make $175,000 a year.

01:32:18.000 And they're worth hundreds of millions.

01:32:19.000 And they're net worth $85 million, $195 million.

01:32:23.000 They're really good investors.

01:32:23.000 Ugh.

01:32:25.000 Oh, really?

01:32:25.000 Yeah, they are.

01:32:26.000 They're really good investors.

01:32:26.000 That's it.

01:32:28.000 Some people are good at it.

01:32:29.000 Okay?

01:32:29.000 Maybe not so good at it.

01:32:30.000 Sorry.

01:32:32.000 They're prescient.

01:32:33.000 They're like, you know, maybe there's a room that you can go to in the White House and you can just, you know, the universe gives you suggestions.

01:32:39.000 I think we've hit a point to where, and this was a pretty popular conversation in the 80s and 90s, and then it just disappeared.

01:32:45.000 I think we've got to start talking about term limits.

01:32:48.000 Yeah, that's a good idea.

01:32:49.000 Term limits are a good idea when you see someone like Nancy Pelosi. 1.00

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.000 Because she's like the best at riding out that wave.

01:32:54.000 With her day trader husband?

01:32:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:56.000 How about Feinstein?

01:32:57.000 She rode it out until she was literally dying.

01:33:00.000 And they're telling her who to vote for.

01:33:00.000 Yeah.

01:33:02.000 They're just pushing her out there. 0.99

01:33:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:04.000 I think maybe it's going to probably take two terms to even figure out what you're doing in the House of Representatives.

01:33:10.000 My favorite is Mitch McConnell.

01:33:12.000 Oh, dude.

01:33:13.000 When he just switches off.

01:33:14.000 No.

01:33:15.000 That dude just switches off.

01:33:16.000 Hey, we've got some octogenarians up in there right now.

01:33:19.000 Yeah, once you switch off once, you can't drive anymore.

01:33:23.000 Okay, you're not allowed to drive.

01:33:25.000 You just switch off. 1.00

01:33:26.000 Okay, Grandpa, Grandpa, give me the fucking keys. 1.00

01:33:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:29.000 Okay, and so you're driving what?

01:33:31.000 What are you doing?

01:33:33.000 You're involved in important decisions for the entire world.

01:33:37.000 Should there be age limits? 1.00

01:33:38.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:33:40.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

01:33:41.000 Or at least an aptitude test. 0.99

01:33:42.000 An aptitude test, but also dependent upon future aptitude tests and future physical fitness evaluations.

01:33:50.000 That's what I think.

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:51.000 I think you can't just say every 75 year old is the same as every other 75 year old.

01:33:56.000 Because look at Robert Kennedy.

01:33:57.000 Bobby Kennedy Jr. is like, how old is he?

01:33:59.000 69? 0.99

01:34:01.000 He looks fucking great. 0.98

01:34:03.000 He's fit. 0.98

01:34:04.000 He's always at Gold's gym.

01:34:05.000 He works out in jeans for some strange reason. 1.00

01:34:07.000 It's some old school shit. 0.99

01:34:07.000 I don't know why he does that. 0.99

01:34:09.000 I guess it's some old school shit. 0.99

01:34:10.000 They skied in them back in the day. 1.00

01:34:11.000 They'd scotch guard their jeans and go skiing.

01:34:13.000 That's when I first met him.

01:34:13.000 Yeah.

01:34:15.000 I met him in Aspen, just randomly.

01:34:16.000 Really?

01:34:17.000 Yeah, I was up there.

01:34:18.000 I don't ski.

01:34:19.000 I used to ski, but my last accident, I was like, that's right.

01:34:21.000 I did the same thing.

01:34:22.000 I'm like, that's right.

01:34:23.000 Horses are dangerous.

01:34:24.000 I have a friend of mine who has a fake knee because of it.

01:34:25.000 He went skiing, he tore his knee apart, and he had to get an artificial knee.

01:34:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:34:29.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:34:29.000 I know it's fun. 1.00

01:34:30.000 I get it. 0.99

01:34:31.000 But anyway, I ran into him there, and he looks fucking jacked. 0.99

01:34:35.000 Look at him. 0.99

01:34:36.000 That's a 69-year-old guy.

01:34:36.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 There's a lot of dudes that I know that are 69 that don't look anything like that.

01:34:38.000 Now...

01:34:42.000 I mean, no disrespect, Ron White, but put Ron White's body next to Robert Kennedy Jr.'s body. 0.99

01:34:48.000 The guy's fucking really fit. 0.98

01:34:50.000 That's fake. 0.99

01:34:52.000 Yeah, that one's fake.

01:34:53.000 But the real ones are very impressive.

01:34:56.000 My point is, it's like, okay, that guy don't have a problem with his age at all.

01:34:59.000 You know, he's obviously very bright.

01:35:01.000 He's constantly writing books.

01:35:02.000 He's a brilliant environmental lawyer.

01:35:06.000 But then there's other guys like they get to like like he you think of that, okay?

01:35:10.000 That's only five years younger than Reagan in that video.

01:35:13.000 Yeah There's a difference.

01:35:15.000 Yeah, there's a difference somewhere at 70. Yeah, you should have to take Some type of aptitude test and a physical fitness test and then maybe every two years after Yes, for sure.

01:35:26.000 And maybe for driving too.

01:35:27.000 I'm pretty sure after a certain age, you have to have an annual driver's test.

01:35:32.000 Is it?

01:35:33.000 Yeah, you should.

01:35:34.000 Something like that.

01:35:34.000 Maybe in some states it varies.

01:35:36.000 I don't know.

01:35:36.000 But you should definitely.

01:35:37.000 Because my grandpa, before he died, he would take me out and I'd be like, oh shit. 0.99

01:35:43.000 And my grandpa had an old Buick, this big-ass... 0.99

01:35:45.000 Was it a Chrysler?

01:35:46.000 Chrysler.

01:35:47.000 Old Chrysler. 1.00

01:35:47.000 This big-ass fucking car. 1.00

01:35:49.000 So it was like one of those boats, like when you turn the wheels, like... 1.00

01:35:52.000 And he couldn't see anymore.

01:35:55.000 And he didn't want to admit it, so he didn't want to not...

01:35:58.000 You know, he didn't want to not drive, but he couldn't see. 0.96

01:36:01.000 It was fucking sketchy. 0.95

01:36:02.000 And he couldn't drive at night at all. 0.99

01:36:04.000 Yeah, no.

01:36:05.000 But he'd just take us out. 1.00

01:36:06.000 We were like seven, like gripping the fucking seats like, Jesus, Grandpa! 0.99

01:36:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:11.000 And those old Chrysler's, you know, there's about this much play in the wheel.

01:36:13.000 Yeah, you got so much play, you can't make any fast maneuvers.

01:36:18.000 They don't handle it all. 0.91

01:36:20.000 Yeah, for running the fucking most important army the world has ever known, yeah, you probably should have aptitude tests if you're going to be the president. 0.93

01:36:29.000 There should be some way we can tell. 0.98

01:36:31.000 If there's like a foolproof way, we can tell you're not falling apart.

01:36:35.000 But do you really think Joe Biden would pass that test?

01:36:38.000 He wouldn't have passed that test before he became president, and he's aging rapidly while he's president.

01:36:45.000 Every president in my lifetime, you've watched them...

01:36:48.000 Think about some of the younger presidents, George W. Bush and Obama.

01:36:52.000 They went in there in their 40s with a full head of dark hair.

01:36:56.000 And that is not how they left.

01:36:57.000 They got scared.

01:36:59.000 The pressure of that job must be insane.

01:37:02.000 And you know what it's like, and this is...

01:37:05.000 There's no comparing the two, but just how ragged you can get run if you're going to go do a comedy show here and then there and then there and you're just living out of a suitcase and then you've got to say this, you've got to be on.

01:37:15.000 I mean, it takes a toll.

01:37:17.000 When I go direct, I mean, if I go on a six-month, which I'm about to, a six-month, seven-month run of directing every single day where I have to make decisions from 6 a.m. 0.99

01:37:26.000 until 9 o'clock at night and then I've got to watch footage until midnight, I get three, four hours of sleep at night for six months, I'm a fucking wreck.

01:37:33.000 Well, you were telling me about season three of Yellowstone that you essentially wrote it on Saturdays?

01:37:38.000 Yeah, I was directing a movie with Angie, with Angelina Jolie in New Mexico, and they had a start date that, by God, they were going to start.

01:37:47.000 It didn't matter.

01:37:48.000 They didn't have scripts.

01:37:49.000 They were going to start.

01:37:50.000 And I had to, you know, we would do a night shoot Friday night.

01:37:54.000 I'd finish about 7 in the morning.

01:37:55.000 And I'd come home and sleep till 2 and wake up and have coffee and write the script Saturday till, you know, 1, 2 in the morning.

01:38:05.000 Wake up Sunday.

01:38:06.000 Do it.

01:38:06.000 Do it again.

01:38:07.000 Finish the script.

01:38:08.000 Send it off.

01:38:09.000 Oh, my God.

01:38:10.000 I did it 10 episodes.

01:38:12.000 I did it 10 weeks in a row. 0.99

01:38:14.000 Fucking killed me. 0.99

01:38:15.000 How do you keep your brain active during that time? 1.00

01:38:18.000 Are you careful about what you eat?

01:38:20.000 Are you drinking a lot of water?

01:38:22.000 Yeah, very, very.

01:38:23.000 I would imagine that your body's on the edge. 1.00

01:38:26.000 You can't fuck around. 0.99

01:38:27.000 I'm very, very conscious of what I eat. 1.00

01:38:30.000 I try to be pretty conscious anyway, but I'm a freak when we're directing.

01:38:35.000 Do you take any nootropics or anything like that?

01:38:37.000 So, I take...

01:38:39.000 I take a big mix of different things.

01:38:41.000 I take mesulfactors.

01:38:42.000 I take NMN. And I'll do like a thiamycin alpha, which is a peptide that's an anti-inflammatory for your body.

01:38:52.000 And I'm just really rigid.

01:38:54.000 I do a B12 shot every other day on set.

01:38:58.000 Just anything that I can do to keep me alert.

01:39:01.000 Because you'll get what they call the movie flu.

01:39:04.000 Where you just get run down.

01:39:08.000 It's 14, 16 hours a day.

01:39:10.000 Yeah.

01:39:11.000 And you have deadlines, and you have a budget, and you have to do it that way.

01:39:16.000 Yeah, we have a budget, but you've seen my shows.

01:39:18.000 They let me run.

01:39:20.000 The CGI in 1883, I was like, this is insane.

01:39:25.000 Because I don't want to give anything away, but there's a scene with a storm where you're like, oh my god. 0.97

01:39:30.000 Like, you can do some wild shit today. 0.95

01:39:32.000 Well, the other thing is, yes. 0.99

01:39:34.000 But the other thing is, I waited until a day with 60 mile an hour winds to shoot that.

01:39:38.000 Oh, perfect.

01:39:40.000 I let God do a lot of the CGI. Nice.

01:39:42.000 They're like, there's a terrible storm coming in.

01:39:44.000 And I said, let's go.

01:39:45.000 Let's sweep the schedule.

01:39:47.000 Yeah, because there's no way you could ever have done that with their hair and all the things flying around.

01:39:52.000 Yeah, it was nuts. 0.98

01:39:53.000 It was fucking great, man. 0.98

01:39:55.000 It's a great show. 0.99

01:39:56.000 How about that ending?

01:39:58.000 It was rough.

01:39:59.000 It was rough.

01:40:01.000 I was just walking around my house like two hours afterwards.

01:40:05.000 And the funny thing is I told the audience what was going to happen in the first scene.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, I know.

01:40:09.000 That was a wild thing you did.

01:40:11.000 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 It's like you're waiting for it throughout all the episodes.

01:40:16.000 You know there's only ten.

01:40:17.000 So you're like, wow, how does this go down?

01:40:19.000 It definitely added a layer of anticipation.

01:40:23.000 It's brilliant, man.

01:40:24.000 It really is.

01:40:25.000 It's one of the best shows I've ever seen.

01:40:29.000 70% of it?

01:40:31.000 80% of it at the four sixes? 0.98

01:40:33.000 How the fuck is Tim McGraw and Faith Hill so good? 0.98

01:40:39.000 That's crazy, isn't it? 0.99

01:40:41.000 How are they so good at acting?

01:40:43.000 Well, let me tell you what.

01:40:45.000 Every singer can act.

01:40:46.000 Just like every comedian can act. 0.99

01:40:49.000 Dude, he's fucking incredible. 0.98

01:40:51.000 Did you ever see him in Friday Night Lights, the movie? 0.99

01:40:54.000 No.

01:40:55.000 That film, and I know Pete Berg came on the show with you here.

01:40:59.000 Pete was a big mentor of mine.

01:41:02.000 And that, to me, is a perfect sports film.

01:41:05.000 If you haven't seen that movie, you've got to see that movie.

01:41:07.000 It's Billy Bob Thornton, and Tim McGraw plays this abusive dad in it, and it is...

01:41:12.000 I mean, he's raw, but the well runs deep with that guy.

01:41:17.000 Mmm.

01:41:18.000 Well, you could tell in that movie, man, or in your show, rather.

01:41:21.000 You just 100% buy that he is a stone-cold killer.

01:41:25.000 Yeah.

01:41:26.000 And Faith, she hadn't acted before.

01:41:28.000 Incredible.

01:41:28.000 We were just hoping.

01:41:29.000 Incredible.

01:41:30.000 And she brought it.

01:41:31.000 Incredible.

01:41:32.000 Yeah.

01:41:33.000 But also, it has to help that they're a real-life married couple.

01:41:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:39.000 There's like layers of chemistry when they're on the set together.

01:41:44.000 And the subtext.

01:41:46.000 And the heavy moments, I don't want to give anything away, but some of the heavy moments between the two of them, you're like, oh my god, imagine dealing with that. 1.00

01:41:54.000 The fucking shit those people had to deal with. 1.00

01:41:57.000 It's insanity. 1.00

01:41:58.000 It's heavy, dude.

01:41:59.000 It's a heavy show, but it's really good.

01:42:01.000 I think it's a really important thing for people to be aware of that that's a pretty, it's obviously fiction, but it's a pretty accurate representation of how it went down.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, I mean, the circumstances are imaginary, but the tools and the things, I mean, that's how they died and that's how they lived.

01:42:15.000 Yeah.

01:42:15.000 You know, when you look back at all the civilizations that have existed, that have risen and fallen, and the idea that that's happening to America now, like, this is, what's happened on this continent over the last 400 years is one of the most insane stories.

01:42:34.000 In all of history.

01:42:36.000 In all of history.

01:42:37.000 I mean, there's some insane stories.

01:42:39.000 Insane, you know, empires that ruled the world for long periods of time.

01:42:45.000 You know, the Portuguese and the British and the Mongols, of course, and the Vikings. 0.99

01:42:50.000 But what the fuck happened here is so crazy that there was a country full of nomadic Native American tribes that were warring with each other all the time and living off the land and living in harmony with the land. 0.92

01:43:03.000 And then all of a sudden, boats start showing up. 0.99

01:43:05.000 And then within 50, 60, 100 years, 200 years, it's just flooded with Europeans. 0.99

01:43:12.000 Like a mass invasion of a place that people have been living on it for 20,000 plus years.

01:43:18.000 Yeah.

01:43:20.000 Maybe longer.

01:43:21.000 They found some, you know, the Clovis Point that they found in New Mexico, which dated back to like 12,000 B.C. And I could go on a sidebar with these archaeologists.

01:43:30.000 When they find something that's the oldest, they will defend it to the death.

01:43:33.000 They do not want anything older to be found.

01:43:35.000 Well, yeah, that's a real problem with Egypt, too.

01:43:38.000 But they found another point of some kind in New Mexico that dates back another 8,000 years.

01:43:45.000 Yeah, they found footprints.

01:43:48.000 Footprints.

01:43:48.000 Yes, that's what it was.

01:43:49.000 I think it's 22,000 years.

01:43:51.000 It shatters.

01:43:52.000 Also, that's just what they found.

01:43:54.000 Like, who's to say there's not one that's 35,000 years old?

01:43:54.000 Yeah.

01:43:57.000 Yeah.

01:43:58.000 We're saying that the oldest thing we found is the oldest thing. 0.96

01:44:01.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

01:44:01.000 Which is just fucking human. 1.00

01:44:03.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

01:44:04.000 Yeah.

01:44:04.000 Well, that's what they're realizing now with human civilizations, that it's very likely that there was a mass disruption of human civilization from asteroid impacts or something like that, and we had to rebuild.

01:44:14.000 And that's what the pyramids are, and that's what a lot of the structures they find, even in North America.

01:44:18.000 And, you know, catastrophes do happen.

01:44:22.000 And I know we don't want to believe it.

01:44:24.000 It's just like the vegans don't want to believe they're causing any deaths when they buy their kale.

01:44:28.000 It's kind of the same thing.

01:44:29.000 We don't want to believe that this could ever fall apart and we could be right back to square one, right back to living like nomadic tribal people. 0.93

01:44:39.000 But that 100% can happen.

01:44:42.000 Well, you know what, you know, Einstein's famous saying when they asked him what would be the weapon of destruction in World War III, and he says, I have no idea, but I know what it is in World War IV. And they said, what is it?

01:44:53.000 He goes, sticks.

01:44:54.000 Yeah.

01:44:56.000 It probably doesn't even have to be the war, though.

01:44:59.000 That's the problem. 1.00

01:45:00.000 The problem is we're in a fucking shooting gallery. 0.99

01:45:02.000 We're spinning around in a shooting gallery of massive chunks of space debris that literally is the stuff that forms planets. 0.99

01:45:10.000 Yeah.

01:45:11.000 And it's everywhere.

01:45:12.000 There's so much of it out there.

01:45:14.000 There's hundreds of thousands of near Earth objects.

01:45:18.000 And there's a whole asteroid belt.

01:45:20.000 And if one of them collides with another one, and one of them's coming in from some other place, and it hits one and just sends it right towards us.

01:45:28.000 And some of them are fucking huge. 0.60

01:45:30.000 And when those things hit, that's a wrap, civilization. 0.97

01:45:34.000 Whatever people are left, good luck.

01:45:36.000 Good luck.

01:45:37.000 You're going to live like barbarians for the next 1,000, 2,000 years before people reinvent civilization again.

01:45:42.000 Yeah.

01:45:43.000 And it'll be interesting to see if it's reinvented the same.

01:45:46.000 I don't think it will be.

01:45:48.000 I think there's a certain amount of genetic memory in people.

01:45:54.000 And I think even if something horrible happened and we had to start right now from scratch and rebuild civilization, I still think we would be better off than people who tried to do that 5,000 years ago or even 10,000 years ago.

01:46:11.000 I think the collective human consciousness is something other than just what you know and what you've read. 0.98

01:46:22.000 I think there's some shit that's in you in genetics.

01:46:24.000 I think people are better at stuff now than they've ever been before. 0.99

01:46:28.000 But clearly, If that's the case, clearly, whoever built the pyramids, they must have been around way longer.

01:46:35.000 They must have been able to have a civilization that thrived way longer than ours.

01:46:41.000 They still can't figure out how they built it.

01:46:44.000 And there's something that I just read about, if you look at its longitude and latitude, it's like a perfect one millionth of its...

01:46:54.000 Yeah, it's almost perfectly true north, south, east, and west.

01:46:57.000 It's amazing.

01:46:59.000 And whoever did that probably was along the same lines that we're on.

01:47:05.000 They just had way more time to do it.

01:47:07.000 They had thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

01:47:10.000 We've only had a few hundred. 0.87

01:47:12.000 A few hundred of craziness, a few hundred of the Industrial Revolution, combustion engines, utilization of fossil fuel, all this shit that we're doing now. 0.92

01:47:19.000 Nuclear fuel, nuclear weapons. 0.94

01:47:21.000 This is real, real, real, real, real recent. 0.99

01:47:24.000 So if they had some more time than we did, that's what explains that shit to me. 0.96

01:47:30.000 And I think that if we go, and then there's a few barbarian people left, a few thousand all over the planet, and they eventually redo civilization, they'll probably do a slightly better job. 1.00

01:47:43.000 I think each group does a slightly better job, but it probably takes forever.

01:47:49.000 It'll probably take another four or five thousand years for civilization to really emerge again.

01:47:53.000 Are you familiar with the...

01:47:55.000 I'm fascinated with anthropology.

01:47:58.000 Me too.

01:47:59.000 Human anthropology. 0.96

01:48:00.000 And the fact that we now know that there were four different human species living on the planet at the same fucking time. 0.96

01:48:07.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:48:08.000 At the same time.

01:48:10.000 Yeah, maybe more.

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:11.000 If Homo Erecus was still around too, you got the Denivarians, you got Neanderthal, you've got your Homo Sapien, and then there was another off some Indonesian island.

01:48:20.000 Yeah, the Homo Floresiensis, I think.

01:48:23.000 That's how you say it?

01:48:23.000 Those little hobbit people.

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:25.000 They think there's still some of those alive somewhere.

01:48:25.000 Yeah.

01:48:28.000 There's a thing in some parts of the country, they call them the Orang Pendek.

01:48:34.000 And in jungles, people have reported seeing these little tiny people, little tiny hairy people, like, you know, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago.

01:48:43.000 And so there's this myth of this Orang Pendek.

01:48:47.000 And they never took it seriously until they found these little people on the island of Flores.

01:48:52.000 And, like, some of these jungles are just so insanely dense, like in Vietnam and places like that.

01:48:57.000 Like, who knows?

01:48:58.000 There might be a small population of these things still alive today.

01:49:01.000 Or were alive 100 years ago.

01:49:03.000 Well, there's still a few uncontacted tribes.

01:49:05.000 There's that one in India that every time somebody tries to go there...

01:49:07.000 North Sentinel Island.

01:49:08.000 They kill them. 0.66

01:49:08.000 Yeah. 0.66

01:49:09.000 Well, they didn't used to.

01:49:09.000 Yeah.

01:49:11.000 You know when they started killing him?

01:49:12.000 There was a guy named Commander Maurice Portman.

01:49:16.000 I wanted to make a movie about that.

01:49:18.000 Maurice Vidal Portman, yeah. 0.97

01:49:19.000 He was a pervert. 1.00

01:49:20.000 He'd run around fondling people and drawing pictures of them, making them dress up like Roman soldiers and talk about the size of their dicks. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Did you know about that? 0.99

01:49:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:30.000 No.

01:49:30.000 It's like, this one had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg.

01:49:33.000 Like he was doing science. 1.00

01:49:34.000 He's a little pervert. 0.97

01:49:36.000 And this guy, he was responsible for getting a bunch of them sick. 0.99

01:49:40.000 And a few people died.

01:49:42.000 And they even kidnapped people and they tried to raise their kids somewhere else.

01:49:45.000 I think they kidnapped some people.

01:49:47.000 But that was a very hostile interaction with white people.

01:49:51.000 So from then on... 1.00

01:49:53.000 They were like, fuck it. 1.00

01:49:53.000 You see them, start killing them. 1.00

01:49:55.000 They're going to give you herpes and... 1.00

01:49:57.000 They're throwing spears at helicopters. 1.00

01:49:59.000 They're gonna make fun of your balls. 1.00

01:50:02.000 So that one guy, he just like did, you know, air quote science, just traveling around to all these islands and fucking with these people. 1.00

01:50:11.000 Yeah, and now they were like, ah, that's all. 1.00

01:50:13.000 Yeah, now they'll fucking kill you. 1.00

01:50:15.000 They'll fucking kill you. 1.00

01:50:16.000 They kill everybody. 1.00

01:50:16.000 You can't even get out of the boat. 1.00

01:50:18.000 They're already shooting arrows in your direction.

01:50:20.000 Now they have metal, too, because they took one of the boats that got stranded there.

01:50:25.000 They had to rescue these people that were stuck on this boat because the North Sentinel people were coming for them in the boat, and they literally had to rescue them in time.

01:50:33.000 But they got onto the boat, and then the next time they saw them, they noticed that they had metal weapons.

01:50:39.000 So yeah, so they think they've salvaged pieces of the boat and turned it into knives and sharpened them and stuff like that.

01:50:45.000 Yeah.

01:50:47.000 It's crazy because there's only 39 of them.

01:50:50.000 And they're the direct descendants of people who left Africa 60,000 years ago.

01:50:55.000 And because there's such a small number of them on this island the size of Manhattan, they just never passed like how humans were 100,000 years ago or whatever it was, 60,000 years ago.

01:51:06.000 They're exactly that.

01:51:07.000 They live exactly the way people lived back then, which is really wild to see.

01:51:13.000 You know, uncontacted tribes, man, that's one of the weirdest windows into the variability.

01:51:19.000 Who we are.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, who we are, but also the variability.

01:51:22.000 That you can have people that are driving around in electric cars, talking on cell phones, and at the same time, some guy is sneaking up on a monkey in the jungle with a bow and arrow, with a poison tip on it.

01:51:32.000 And his family's been doing it that way forever.

01:51:36.000 Forever.

01:51:37.000 Yeah.

01:51:38.000 And they're both happening at the same time, you know?

01:51:40.000 That's kind of the wildest part of the story of the people coming to America, is that the Native American people lived in this... 1.00

01:51:48.000 Like, one of the things that's really...

01:51:50.000 The way was so appealing, that one of the things that's so interesting about the reports from back then was that people that had left modern, air quote, Western civilization and moved in with Indians and started living in Indian cultures, they never wanted to go back.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 But whenever they took people from, like, when it was Cynthia Ann Parker, when they kidnapped her when she was nine, and then they rescued her when she was a woman, she wanted to go back.

01:52:17.000 She escaped twice.

01:52:17.000 Yeah.

01:52:18.000 She's like, I don't want to be... 0.99

01:52:19.000 This life sucks. 0.98

01:52:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:52:21.000 Like, that's the life. 1.00

01:52:22.000 Like, the living in the tent and fucking chasing the buffalo, that's the life. 1.00

01:52:26.000 Everybody said that. 0.99

01:52:28.000 Nobody wanted to go the other way. 0.94

01:52:29.000 There wasn't people that were dying to, like, get educated and fucking be forced into, you know, jobs. 0.55

01:52:35.000 Well, Kwana, who was extremely smart as the last chief of the Comanche Nation, and then when he finally went to the reservation in Oklahoma and they said, okay, here you are, 0.81

01:52:35.000 Yeah. 0.81

01:52:50.000 he was smart enough and astute enough to make a business of it.

01:52:55.000 And, you know, there was a few ranchers, Sam Burr Burnett, who founded the Four Sixes, and W.T. Wagner, and Charles Goodnight, who needed somewhere to graze their cattle because that part of West Texas was having a terrible drought.

01:53:09.000 Oklahoma had a lot of good grass.

01:53:11.000 They went up and talked to Quanah and said, hey, could we graze our cattle here?

01:53:16.000 We'll pay you.

01:53:18.000 He's like, you'll pay us?

01:53:19.000 Yeah, we'll pay you.

01:53:21.000 Alright.

01:53:22.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

01:53:23.000 And so it became a great partnership that they had.

01:53:28.000 And did that for years.

01:53:31.000 Really until Congress got wind of it.

01:53:33.000 And they were like, we don't need those Indian people making money. 1.00

01:53:36.000 We should outlaw that.

01:53:37.000 Which they tried to do.

01:53:38.000 And then Burt Burnett, they reached out to Teddy Roosevelt and had him come out.

01:53:44.000 And he hunted wolves on the Comanche Reservation and then down at the Four Sixes as well.

01:53:51.000 And they convinced him that he got a two-year stay before they finally outlawed it.

01:53:57.000 But in that time, Quanah needed a house because he had so many people coming to dignitaries and governors and Teddy.

01:54:05.000 And no one would obviously give him a loan.

01:54:07.000 So Goodnight and Burnett gave Quanah the money to build the star house where he lived and housed people.

01:54:14.000 And in his bedroom, they call it the Star House because he painted the ceiling with stars.

01:54:19.000 He would sleep on the floor, not in the bed, and stare up at the stars on his ceiling.

01:54:26.000 Wow.

01:54:27.000 Well, I think until people have actually spent a night camping, looking up at the stars where there's no light pollution at all, they don't understand it.

01:54:36.000 They don't know the appeal.

01:54:38.000 It's an amazing experience.

01:54:40.000 It's like one of the coolest things you could ever see in your life and you're denied it.

01:54:45.000 You're denied it because of advanced technology that allows us to light the streets.

01:54:49.000 We lit the streets, but we cut off the majesty of the heavens because it humbles you in a way and it grounds you in a way that's soothing.

01:55:00.000 And I think that's part of the reason why a lot of people, there's a lot of reasons why people have anxiety, but I definitely think that a factor is we're disconnected from the universe.

01:55:09.000 We're disconnected from all the things that our ancestors saw.

01:55:13.000 When they would go to bed at night and they'd look up, they'd be like, wow.

01:55:17.000 Like, before you went to bed, what you saw was, wow.

01:55:21.000 Like, look at that.

01:55:22.000 Look at those stars.

01:55:24.000 You've been to New York.

01:55:25.000 Yeah.

01:55:26.000 I lived there for, I don't know, six months.

01:55:30.000 And in that time, one day it hit me that I hadn't seen a star, and my feet hadn't touched anything but concrete for six months.

01:55:41.000 And I thought, I can't live like this.

01:55:44.000 That's not good for you.

01:55:45.000 But there's people who have lived their entire lives like that.

01:55:47.000 Oh, yeah, there's people.

01:55:48.000 My friend Ari loves it.

01:55:50.000 He loves living like that.

01:55:51.000 I mean, he goes to other places, too, a lot.

01:55:53.000 He travels a lot, so maybe that helps. 0.99

01:55:55.000 You know those people, lifelong New Yorkers, that they have to record the sound of New York so that when they go somewhere quiet to sleep, they can play that shit? 0.99

01:56:03.000 Sirens and helicopters. 0.99

01:56:04.000 Camping with a guy who does that? 1.00

01:56:06.000 You fucking dick. 1.00

01:56:08.000 Yeah, there's something about the stars that, to me, it's also like the ocean and the mountains in the daytime. 1.00

01:56:15.000 In the daytime, the oceans and the mountains offer a similar thing.

01:56:18.000 Like, when you see the mountains, it's one thing to see photos of the mountains, but when you're in their presence, they look beautiful in photos, but you don't feel them.

01:56:27.000 When you're driving through a mountain range and you see, like, snowcat peaks and these beautiful meadows of grass and big trees, it's like, wow!

01:56:36.000 It's like the most amazing art that you could ever experience.

01:56:41.000 But it's nature.

01:56:42.000 And I think nature has a way of getting us attracted to places that are fertile and places that would hold life.

01:56:52.000 And so when you see the mountains and you see these trees and these valleys and a lake and like this is very fertile.

01:56:58.000 These fertile places are beautiful to us.

01:57:01.000 Just like fertile people are beautiful to us.

01:57:03.000 You know, see women with large breasts and narrow hips and big waist or a big butt and you're like, oh, narrow waist and big hips. 1.00

01:57:11.000 You're like, oh, she could give birth. 0.99

01:57:12.000 She's fertile. 0.96

01:57:13.000 Like this is what's attractive.

01:57:15.000 Perfect symmetry.

01:57:16.000 Oh, she has good genes. 0.97

01:57:17.000 Oh, look at him.

01:57:17.000 She's fertile.

01:57:18.000 He's big and tall and handsome.

01:57:20.000 He's fertile.

01:57:21.000 There's something beautiful about that to us.

01:57:23.000 It's just nature's way of attracting it to us.

01:57:25.000 So when you're denied this thing that literally gives you a certain amount of energy, when you go through a beautiful place, there's something about it like, wow.

01:57:37.000 It's like you're not just living life.

01:57:40.000 You're living life in the presence of this greatness, this insane vision that you can see all around you.

01:57:46.000 I think it humbles people in a way, and it grounds people in a way.

01:57:50.000 And I think the city does the exact opposite.

01:57:53.000 I agree.

01:57:54.000 It does the exact opposite.

01:57:55.000 It gives you this weird energy.

01:57:57.000 It's an angry energy.

01:58:03.000 There's herds and there's packs.

01:58:07.000 Herds are the prey animals.

01:58:09.000 Packs are the hunters.

01:58:11.000 And the city feels full of herds and the country feels full of packs.

01:58:16.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:58:18.000 People much more self-sufficient.

01:58:20.000 One of the more impressive things that I found when I went to Alaska once, we were in Anchorage, and we were doing shows out there, and I was like, these people feel different.

01:58:32.000 They feel, like, more sturdy. 0.94

01:58:35.000 Like, I guess if you just live in a place that gets cold as fuck, and it doesn't even... 0.89

01:58:40.000 Like, it wasn't even dark out, and it was, like, 2 o'clock in the morning. 0.96

01:58:43.000 It was still, like, light outside.

01:58:44.000 So this is a weird place to live.

01:58:46.000 And these people are literally at the mercy of nature.

01:58:49.000 And they're surrounded by grizzly bears and wolves and moose.

01:58:53.000 Like, everywhere you go, you can see a moose.

01:58:56.000 Mooses, they show up on college campuses and stomp people.

01:59:00.000 They're everywhere.

01:59:01.000 It's like you're living in a totally different environment than the rest of the world.

01:59:04.000 And because of that, the people, they're sturdier.

01:59:07.000 They're more solid.

01:59:09.000 Even when you talk to them, they've gone through more to get where they are right now.

01:59:14.000 And you know what they have no interaction with?

01:59:17.000 Almost none.

01:59:18.000 Government.

01:59:19.000 You go to a small town in West Texas or a small town in rural Wyoming or anywhere.

01:59:19.000 Right.

01:59:27.000 I split my time.

01:59:29.000 We moved to Wyoming in 2013 before I moved back down to Texas.

01:59:35.000 We still spend the summers up at our ranch there.

01:59:37.000 But it's a town of 175. The driver's license office is open for an hour on Thursday.

01:59:45.000 Right.

01:59:46.000 There are no public services.

01:59:50.000 If you want to go to the Social Security office to get a Social Security card or turn in some paper, you're driving 12 hours to Cheyenne.

01:59:59.000 So the only interaction, and this is what people in the city don't understand, the only interaction that people in true rural areas have with the government is paying taxes and the military, because most of them joined the military at some point.

02:00:13.000 Those are their only two experiences with the federal government.

02:00:16.000 Aside from the rules that the government tells them, they don't get any of the benefits that you may or may not get.

02:00:21.000 There's towns in California, you go out into San Bernardino County, you go up somewhere around Visalia and that area, and all this money that they're going to spend on roads and shit and everything else, none of that is making it there.

02:00:35.000 None of it. 0.70

02:00:37.000 So their perception of government is, what are you going to make me do?

02:00:41.000 How much money are you going to take from me?

02:00:44.000 That's their experience with government.

02:00:45.000 Right, they're not going to get anything out of it.

02:00:46.000 Nothing.

02:00:47.000 That's a wild thing to think.

02:00:49.000 Yeah.

02:00:50.000 They give into it, but what do they extract from it?

02:00:52.000 Right.

02:00:53.000 If they get to 65, they get an $1,800 a month check that they've been paying.

02:00:57.000 It's the worst investment in history of Social Security.

02:00:59.000 The worst investment in your future you could possibly make.

02:01:03.000 I'm going to give you whatever, 8% of my check or 12% of my check from the day I turn 20 until I'm 65 and retired, and then you're going to shit out an $1,800 check to me each month? 0.98

02:01:16.000 What the fuck am I going to do with that? 0.89

02:01:18.000 Yeah, can I opt out of that? 0.98

02:01:20.000 Are you allowed to opt out of Social Security?

02:01:22.000 You can't.

02:01:23.000 Seems like you should be.

02:01:24.000 And if you could, it would collapse because, you know, the top earners are paying for the entire thing.

02:01:31.000 Yeah.

02:01:32.000 And never, you know, they're never getting it.

02:01:34.000 Like, there should be some sort of a social safety net for old folks, for sure.

02:01:38.000 Especially for impoverished people, for sure.

02:01:41.000 But making people pay into it is where it gets squirrely.

02:01:46.000 Especially if you're not gonna get anything out of it like okay like how's this being doled out like well at least If you're gonna collect that money if you did the same thing if you took the same money And you put it into and I'm not a big I'm not a big 401k IRA guy,

02:02:06.000 but if you did And you took that same money and invested in just the major indexes, you know, you would take that money and multiply it 10 to 20-fold.

02:02:16.000 You'd be a millionaire. 1.00

02:02:18.000 I mean, fuck a millionaire. 1.00

02:02:20.000 And I don't know why the government doesn't at least... 1.00

02:02:22.000 Well, they probably do invest it, they just don't give you any investment.

02:02:25.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.99

02:02:26.000 Who knows what the fuck they do. 0.99

02:02:27.000 I don't understand the... 0.99

02:02:28.000 My number one problem has always been when people say, you know, that the rich need to pay more taxes.

02:02:33.000 I'm like, sure.

02:02:35.000 Where's it going?

02:02:36.000 Where's it going?

02:02:37.000 Do you know where it's going?

02:02:38.000 Do you know if the people that are taking that money in are competent?

02:02:41.000 Do you know how it's being distributed?

02:02:43.000 Do you have any idea where that money's going? 1.00

02:02:44.000 You're just going to trust these people that are so dumb that they work for the government? 0.99

02:02:49.000 Well, remember, that's the $1,300 toilet seats. 1.00

02:02:52.000 Yeah.

02:02:53.000 There's no...

02:02:54.000 The government's the most inefficient...

02:02:56.000 They don't manage our money well because it's not their money.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, they don't have to.

02:03:02.000 Whenever you have a situation where you're outside of competition, which the government essentially is, they run the show.

02:03:10.000 If you had some sort of a business and your business was really inefficient and always fucked things up and really had terrible strategies and could never be audited because your books were always fucked up by millions is missing every year.

02:03:29.000 There's no way you would survive. 0.74

02:03:31.000 There's no way you would survive.

02:03:33.000 No, you'd be out of business.

02:03:33.000 Because someone better would come along, they'd do a better job, and that's what competition is all about.

02:03:37.000 But as soon as you say, you're the ones that get to do this, and then everybody has to pay you no matter what, no matter what, no matter if you do a good job or a bad job, you don't have options, like, hey, this one doesn't seem to be working so well, so there's a private firm that's going to take over the service,

02:03:53.000 you can opt into that as well.

02:03:55.000 Well, there you go. 0.71

02:03:56.000 Much more efficient, and these are some people that actually run businesses, and they understand businesses, and they're going to be a publicly traded company, so they're going to be responsible to the shareholders, and they're going to make some fucking money, and they're going to do it right. 0.89

02:04:07.000 Well, you know, Texas, I mean, this state makes money.

02:04:11.000 There's no deficit here, and hasn't been for, like, who knows how long.

02:04:16.000 They're trying to figure out what to do with all their surplus every year.

02:04:19.000 That's interesting.

02:04:20.000 Is it because of oil?

02:04:22.000 A lot of it.

02:04:23.000 Yeah, what is the percentage from oil?

02:04:25.000 I don't know, but a lot of You know, they're charging something.

02:04:31.000 You know, California has as much oil as anybody.

02:04:33.000 They just won't extract it. 1.00

02:04:35.000 Well, California is so silly. 1.00

02:04:38.000 It's such a silly... 1.00

02:04:39.000 They have the highest deficit they've ever had. 0.94

02:04:42.000 California's deficit...

02:04:43.000 What is the California deficit now?

02:04:44.000 It's like 24 billion.

02:04:46.000 I think it's a lot more than that.

02:04:47.000 I think it's more than that.

02:04:48.000 I think it's something kooky.

02:04:52.000 I think it was like they just announced it was the highest ever deficit.

02:04:56.000 Well, they're running people out of the state.

02:04:58.000 I have more friends that have moved here in the past five years.

02:05:02.000 I don't know an actor.

02:05:04.000 None of the actors.

02:05:05.000 Think about this.

02:05:06.000 32. 32 billion dollar deficit.

02:05:09.000 That's so crazy!

02:05:10.000 32 billion dollars for a state.

02:05:13.000 For a state.

02:05:14.000 That's not the country.

02:05:15.000 That's a state.

02:05:16.000 One state.

02:05:17.000 32 billion dollar deficit.

02:05:18.000 That's so kooky, man.

02:05:20.000 Woo! 0.99

02:05:21.000 Comptroller reported that legislators will have a record, is this Texas?

02:05:24.000 Record surplus of 32 billion.

02:05:26.000 Oh, why don't we just give it to California? 0.97

02:05:28.000 Just give it there.

02:05:29.000 Everybody move there.

02:05:30.000 Anyway, just give it to California. 0.89

02:05:33.000 Yeah, they would fuck that up. 0.91

02:05:34.000 Next year would be more.

02:05:35.000 The thing that I think, you know, there's this debate about climate change, which, by the way, climate's always changing.

02:05:42.000 It was changing before we showed up.

02:05:44.000 Yeah.

02:05:45.000 Yeah.

02:05:46.000 We definitely have an impact on it. 0.96

02:05:47.000 No, you can't have 8 billion people on a planet, 7 billion now, 8 billion by the time this fucking podcast is over, and not have an effect. 0.91

02:05:56.000 We're going to have an effect anyway. 0.97

02:05:58.000 Yeah.

02:05:59.000 But they found a way to make it accusatory.

02:06:02.000 No one knew that this was bad.

02:06:04.000 We built an entire, not just America, the world, Built an entire social structure, economy, on petroleum products, starting in the 1880s.

02:06:15.000 And you can't just shut that off.

02:06:17.000 You can.

02:06:18.000 But the collapse, the amount of death that would happen, starvation, economic collapse.

02:06:24.000 So it's perfectly fine to go...

02:06:27.000 Look, we bet on a horse that has some real complications.

02:06:31.000 We need to do one of two things, or two things.

02:06:34.000 We need to figure out how to access cleaner energy, and we need to figure out if there's a way to make this fuel source that we've based everything on. 0.96

02:06:43.000 I mean, look, let's look at all the shit on your table made out of oil. 0.98

02:06:47.000 First and foremost, this thing. 0.99

02:06:49.000 Just the wires that we're talking through.

02:06:50.000 Everything.

02:06:51.000 Headphones we're wearing.

02:06:52.000 The headphones, the soles of my shoes.

02:06:54.000 Yeah, everything.

02:06:54.000 The socks I'm wearing.

02:06:56.000 Yeah.

02:06:56.000 Everything.

02:06:58.000 You can't shut that off.

02:07:00.000 You've got it.

02:07:01.000 You can wean yourself off of it.

02:07:03.000 You can figure out how to make it cleaner.

02:07:04.000 We're more likely to run out of oil before we find its pure replacement, to be perfectly honest.

02:07:10.000 Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

02:07:11.000 Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to come up with a cleaner source.

02:07:14.000 But we're probably more likely to put energies toward how do we refine it cleaner?

02:07:20.000 How can we utilize it cleaner while we're trying to figure out what this other thing is?

02:07:24.000 Yeah, that's a good solution.

02:07:25.000 The bad solution is decide that You can't talk about any of the things that you've just said and that you have to toe the line because climate change is caused by humans and climate change is all bad and we have to go electric and you have this very surface view of what the complex problem in front of everybody is.

02:07:49.000 And then it becomes a thing.

02:07:50.000 And it can become a thing just like 9-11 became a thing.

02:07:54.000 So after that thing, like, we got attacked, now we can do action, and then everybody agrees.

02:07:58.000 That action's important.

02:08:00.000 Even as ridiculous as going to Iraq, like, why are we going over there?

02:08:04.000 That's also something that will happen with climate change.

02:08:07.000 If you have a thing where everybody tells you, you have to comply, this is necessary, we're all going to die, and meanwhile, every one of their predictions has always been wrong.

02:08:16.000 I mean, if you go back to Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth.

02:08:20.000 No snow by 2006 or something like that. 0.99

02:08:22.000 All bullshit. 0.98

02:08:23.000 All wrong. 1.00

02:08:23.000 No one guesses it right. 1.00

02:08:25.000 But that aside, the problem is you're putting in new control.

02:08:29.000 You're putting in a new mandate, a new narrative.

02:08:33.000 This narrative is you have to do this because if we don't, we're all gonna die.

02:08:37.000 Okay, so everybody has to get on board.

02:08:39.000 And our patience is wearing thin and everybody has to get on board.

02:08:42.000 Why are you driving an internal combustion engine?

02:08:44.000 Why are you still...

02:08:45.000 Okay, but also people are making money in this conversion.

02:08:48.000 You have to understand there's businesses that are set up that are being...

02:08:52.000 Positively affected by this conversion.

02:08:54.000 They're going to make a fuckload of money.

02:08:56.000 And those are the ones that are going to influence people to pass legislation that mandates things and make sure that we have only electric cars by 2035. But how are we going to propel those electric cars?

02:09:08.000 Well, how about where are you getting all the fucking conflict minerals? 0.84

02:09:11.000 The craziest thing about electric cars and electric everything is cobalt mining. 0.98

02:09:17.000 And lithium.

02:09:17.000 It's all in China.

02:09:18.000 It's not just in China.

02:09:19.000 It's in the Congo, and they're using slaves to pull it out of the ground. 0.95

02:09:22.000 Well, where you start digging into the Congo, you start getting into some pretty precious resources there in Virunga and that area.

02:09:28.000 I mean, that is a World Heritage Site.

02:09:30.000 It creates, like, an absurd amount of our oxygen.

02:09:33.000 I mean, it's an extremely important region that is, unfortunately, extremely mineral-rich.

02:09:41.000 Yeah, and the story of how they get the minerals out.

02:09:45.000 A guy, Siddharth Kara, came on the podcast and he was a journalist that got embedded in these cobalt mines and got this footage, this fucking insane footage of slave labor, essentially.

02:09:59.000 These people have dirt floors, they have no money, they have no food, they have no options.

02:10:03.000 They're carrying their babies on their back while they're mining cobalt.

02:10:07.000 So they're getting all this cobalt dust everywhere.

02:10:10.000 So they're all getting poisoned. 0.99

02:10:11.000 They're all of a host of fucking diseases that are coming about from this toxic fumes and this shit they're chipping out of the ground. 1.00

02:10:17.000 And that's what powers all of our electric devices. 1.00

02:10:20.000 That's a part of it.

02:10:22.000 But the other big problem that no one wants to talk about, and I think that the debate needs to be approached from the standpoint of we've got one side that says, go be proof that the world's going to end.

02:10:33.000 I don't need to show you proof.

02:10:35.000 I said it. 1.00

02:10:35.000 Do this bullshit. 1.00

02:10:37.000 Okay, let's just say that we took a corner of Utah and we just solar paneled that fucker and we made enough electricity for the entire nation. 1.00

02:10:48.000 Guess what we can't do? 0.98

02:10:50.000 Get it anywhere.

02:10:51.000 Because the grid, we do not have the pipeline of the grid.

02:10:55.000 California's maxed out.

02:10:56.000 They can't bring it anymore.

02:10:57.000 They've got to run pipeline.

02:10:59.000 They've got to run wires.

02:11:02.000 They're maxed out.

02:11:03.000 They can't get enough power to the cities, as it is. 0.98

02:11:06.000 They're doing fucking rolling blackouts. 0.90

02:11:07.000 They're telling people to not charge their electric vehicles in the summer. 0.96

02:11:10.000 They said that like two weeks after they made the mandate for 2035. Yeah.

02:11:15.000 So maybe figure out how you're going to get the electricity to the cities.

02:11:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:11:21.000 And I'm a big supporter of fuck, especially there. 1.00

02:11:23.000 Throw solar panels on top of everything. 1.00

02:11:25.000 Why wouldn't you?

02:11:26.000 Why wouldn't you?

02:11:27.000 It's free power.

02:11:28.000 Yeah, do it.

02:11:29.000 It's free power and it does work.

02:11:31.000 It does work.

02:11:32.000 You can power your house with solar if you have a big enough yard.

02:11:35.000 Especially in LA where it's sunny all the time.

02:11:37.000 Yeah, it's inexcusable to not do it.

02:11:39.000 Every new house should have them.

02:11:40.000 Yeah, but the problem is, it's just, boy, you're dealing with so many people.

02:11:48.000 That's the problem.

02:11:49.000 Like, if you wanted to come into California right now, and you wanted to manage it correctly, and you wanted to fix all the wrongs, and you wanted to clean up the streets and stop all the crime, you couldn't even do it!

02:12:00.000 You couldn't even do it.

02:12:01.000 There's too many people that are against you.

02:12:04.000 There's too many people that no matter how badly they fail doing it in a certain direction, they're going to keep going in that direction.

02:12:10.000 They're going to double down.

02:12:11.000 Yeah.

02:12:12.000 And they're going to try, you know, and now there's so many people leaving California.

02:12:17.000 They're trying to come up with this new tax where if you leave California for the next 10 years, you still have to somehow pay.

02:12:25.000 Isn't that nuts?

02:12:26.000 It's nonsense. 0.98

02:12:28.000 It's nonsense. 0.55

02:12:28.000 You can't do it. 0.55

02:12:29.000 No, you can't do it.

02:12:30.000 It's not legal. 1.00

02:12:30.000 But also, you fucking criminals. 1.00

02:12:32.000 Like, you suck. 1.00

02:12:33.000 And you know you suck. 1.00

02:12:34.000 So when people are leaving, you're like, well, we still want money. 1.00

02:12:38.000 No, we're leaving because you suck. 1.00

02:12:39.000 Like, that's what states are about. 1.00

02:12:41.000 You get to move to a new state, and this state's got different laws.

02:12:44.000 I like this one better.

02:12:45.000 Bye.

02:12:46.000 That's it.

02:12:46.000 We don't have an agreement.

02:12:48.000 We're not paying alimony. 1.00

02:12:50.000 I wasn't married to you, bitch. 1.00

02:12:51.000 Yeah, I gotta go. 1.00

02:12:52.000 Yeah, see you later.

02:12:53.000 Gotta go see you.

02:12:53.000 Bye.

02:12:54.000 Yeah.

02:12:55.000 Figure it out.

02:12:56.000 I get the random California letter like, are you sure you don't owe us any money? 0.99

02:13:00.000 I haven't lived there in 10 fucking years. 0.97

02:13:02.000 I haven't been there in five. 0.98

02:13:04.000 I mean, when you have a $34 or $32 billion deficit...

02:13:08.000 Hey, you cast it out there, see if you can catch it. 0.99

02:13:10.000 You gotta fucking send dudes out. 0.98

02:13:12.000 Like, let's go. 0.99

02:13:13.000 But now they're talking about...

02:13:15.000 You know, here's one of the things that I've always found interesting, because everyone knows this and no one says it.

02:13:21.000 When they talk about the top 1% of the 1%, that they don't pay income tax, you know, the average, the guy that makes $80,000, $100,000 is paying a higher percentage than those guys.

02:13:33.000 Well, yes, Because you know what billionaires don't get?

02:13:37.000 They don't get a paycheck.

02:13:38.000 They don't get a W2. All those leaders, all the head of this bank or that bank, they're getting a dollar.

02:13:44.000 That's their salary.

02:13:45.000 And they're getting stocks.

02:13:47.000 And until they sell the stock, we don't know what the stock's worth.

02:13:51.000 Everyone talks about Elon Musk is worth 140, however many billions.

02:13:54.000 No, he's not.

02:13:56.000 If he's tried to sell all his stock today and get that, he would collapse all his companies.

02:14:00.000 Collapse them.

02:14:01.000 You can't do it.

02:14:01.000 Same with Bezos, same with any of those guys.

02:14:03.000 So it's paper wealth.

02:14:05.000 Are they extremely wealthy?

02:14:06.000 Sure.

02:14:07.000 Where do they get their money from?

02:14:08.000 They sell a million shares here, they sell a million there.

02:14:10.000 Maybe they take a line of credit out off of their shares.

02:14:14.000 I don't know.

02:14:14.000 But they don't get a paycheck.

02:14:16.000 Right.

02:14:16.000 Exactly.

02:14:17.000 And you can't tax an unrealized gain because we don't know what it's worth.

02:14:21.000 Did they find a loophole?

02:14:23.000 Of course they did.

02:14:23.000 They're billionaires.

02:14:25.000 Yeah, they're smart guys.

02:14:26.000 They're not paying their share.

02:14:28.000 But if you look at the show, that's the narrative in New York City, but have you ever seen the New York City tax breakdown?

02:14:34.000 How much of the tax is paid by wealthy people?

02:14:38.000 Oh, I'm sure it's 60%, 65%.

02:14:40.000 It's an enormous percent of a small percentage of the population is paying an enormous percent of the taxes.

02:14:45.000 And it's still chaos.

02:14:46.000 Let's just say Jeff Bezos is worth...

02:14:48.000 Let's just say he's worth $100 billion.

02:14:51.000 And if he gets his effective tax rate down to 10%, he's paying $10 billion.

02:14:59.000 So how many people making $100,000...

02:15:03.000 And on the same thing, now they're paying $10,000 on their $100,000.

02:15:07.000 I'm no mathematician, but how many?

02:15:11.000 $10,000 times what equals $10 billion?

02:15:14.000 $10,000, $100 [...],000.

02:15:30.000 That's a lot of money, kids.

02:15:31.000 So it takes 100 million people to make the same amount of taxes.

02:15:34.000 Yeah.

02:15:35.000 And also, if their stock drops, like, if they pay that much in stock and then the stock drops the next year, like, what are you going to do then?

02:15:42.000 Now they have to pay less.

02:15:44.000 But now they have even less.

02:15:45.000 Yeah, but they can't even sell it all.

02:15:47.000 He couldn't sell...

02:15:48.000 Bezos could not sell 20% of his holdings without dramatically negatively affecting the stock price.

02:15:56.000 Right.

02:15:56.000 So if he sold the...

02:15:57.000 I don't know what it...

02:15:58.000 What it's trading at, but let's say it's trading at those keep it round numbers, $100.

02:16:02.000 Okay, if he sold his first million shares at 100, he's selling his next at 90, he's selling his next at 80, and then it's on fucking MSNBC and now it's worth 30. Yeah.

02:16:13.000 And then SEC calls and goes, stop trading, something's happening. 1.00

02:16:16.000 Yeah, I'm trying to sell my shit. 0.98

02:16:19.000 So it's mythical numbers. 0.98

02:16:21.000 It is weird.

02:16:23.000 It's weird when you think about it that way.

02:16:25.000 Yeah.

02:16:26.000 So that's why they're not paying taxes on all that money, kids.

02:16:30.000 Because it's not money yet.

02:16:31.000 Yeah.

02:16:32.000 Yeah, people don't like to hear that.

02:16:34.000 It's the truth.

02:16:35.000 They like to hear that the problem is with the wealthy people aren't paying enough.

02:16:38.000 They don't want to hear it's incompetent bureaucrats. 0.99

02:16:41.000 You have a fucking gigantic machine that is very inefficient that's running this country that does not want to ever give up that position. 0.99

02:16:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:16:51.000 And they want your money.

02:16:52.000 They want a percentage of your money.

02:16:53.000 If you don't give it to them, they're gonna come after you like gangsters.

02:16:55.000 They're gonna lock you and put you in a cage. 0.96

02:16:57.000 And if you owe them money, it's not good enough to pay that money back.

02:17:02.000 Now you have to be punished because you owed that money. 0.85

02:17:05.000 It's the only kind of debt that you really get fucking for sure locked up in a cage for. 0.95

02:17:10.000 Look, I spent way more of my life being broke than having money. 0.69

02:17:15.000 And I do get a paycheck.

02:17:17.000 And Uncle Sam takes a massive chunk of it.

02:17:20.000 They take a chunk.

02:17:21.000 They take a chunk.

02:17:22.000 It's interesting.

02:17:23.000 It's a lot of money.

02:17:24.000 But I wouldn't mind if I thought they were doing a great job.

02:17:28.000 I wouldn't either.

02:17:29.000 I wouldn't mind.

02:17:30.000 I wouldn't mind if the machine worked well.

02:17:32.000 If one thing they did, just one thing worked.

02:17:35.000 Just one.

02:17:36.000 Let one of them work.

02:17:37.000 Let one of these programs work.

02:17:38.000 Yeah, but this is a narrative that kids get when they're in college and they get introduced to Marxism.

02:17:44.000 The narrative is that it just hasn't been done correctly and that in an equal and just society, you wouldn't have such disparity of income.

02:17:54.000 And I understand that this capitalism thing that we're running is not perfect.

02:17:59.000 It's not perfect, but it's the best system that we've ever seen.

02:18:02.000 And the thing about what everyone's saying when it comes to equality of income You need to take into consideration equality of effort, equality of focus.

02:18:13.000 Sure, there's people that have become wealthy doing shady things and ripping people off and finding legal loopholes to extract money, for sure.

02:18:24.000 No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

02:18:26.000 But also, people have put in insane amounts of work and focus and dedication to whatever the fuck it is and become way better at it than other people and gotten very successful too.

02:18:39.000 And their businesses have blown up and now they sell, you know, X amount of units at Walmart and this and that. 0.98

02:18:47.000 What the fuck did that guy have to do to do that? 0.96

02:18:49.000 And are you willing to do that? 0.99

02:18:50.000 You probably aren't.

02:18:51.000 So there's a competition going on.

02:18:52.000 And that guy's way ahead in the regular competition.

02:18:56.000 Not the stealing competition, not the taking advantage of people.

02:18:59.000 He's way ahead.

02:19:01.000 And that guy has been an insane worker for 30 years. 0.99

02:19:04.000 So if you come along and say, that guy needs to pay his share, and this is the reason why the world's all fucked. 0.99

02:19:10.000 Well, no. 0.98

02:19:11.000 You have a juvenile perspective. 0.98

02:19:14.000 Part of the reason why the world's all fucked is that there are people out there that only deal in numbers. 0.98

02:19:19.000 And they're just throwing numbers around and betting on this and betting on that and they're all doing coke and they're fucking going crazy and flying around in jets and everybody wants the newest watch. 0.98

02:19:27.000 Those people are real too. 0.84

02:19:28.000 For sure.

02:19:29.000 But there's also a lot of people that are doing the same thing you're trying to do.

02:19:34.000 They just did it better.

02:19:35.000 And they did it for longer.

02:19:36.000 And now they're 70. And they're worth a billion dollars or whatever the fuck they're worth. 0.99

02:19:41.000 And he's not the evil of the world. 0.99

02:19:43.000 That's just called success.

02:19:45.000 Yeah.

02:20:02.000 100%.

02:20:03.000 But the guy that goes and...

02:20:07.000 It takes the idea and builds the business.

02:20:09.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:20:09.000 If you have communism, you're not going to get rid of psychopaths. 0.95

02:20:13.000 You're not going to get rid of sociopaths. 0.98

02:20:15.000 Or just opportunists.

02:20:18.000 They're just going to integrate into that system. 1.00

02:20:19.000 I mean, how much does that drive us nuts about politicians if we think that a politician's full of shit? 1.00

02:20:24.000 It's like, oh, you're fucking bullshitting. 1.00

02:20:25.000 You're bullshitting to get to that spot. 1.00

02:20:27.000 And then when you get to that spot, you're going to benefit from it. 0.60

02:20:29.000 So you're just playing the world.

02:20:31.000 You're playing us off.

02:20:32.000 And that drives everybody nuts.

02:20:33.000 And it should.

02:20:34.000 Because that's the problem.

02:20:36.000 The problem is not the system that's in place.

02:20:38.000 The problem is who exploits the system. 0.99

02:20:41.000 Who fucking wants to be president? 0.99

02:20:43.000 Oh, God. 1.00

02:20:44.000 Who wants that job? 1.00

02:20:47.000 I mean, you know, one of the things you said to me that I really liked when we were on the phone, you were like, I'm trying to be less famous.

02:20:52.000 Like, I don't want to do your show to get famous. 0.97

02:20:55.000 This is the last fucking thing I want. 0.99

02:20:57.000 Like, good. 0.99

02:20:58.000 That's a healthy way to look at it.

02:21:00.000 The only reason to want the job, because it is so unpleasant.

02:21:03.000 It's so unpleasant.

02:21:04.000 It is either A, for the most part, you crave power that much.

02:21:10.000 Yeah.

02:21:11.000 Or B, you crave fame that much.

02:21:15.000 Yeah.

02:21:16.000 You'd be the most famous, most powerful person on the planet.

02:21:19.000 Essentially, if you're the President of the United States.

02:21:21.000 Because there's some really, really smart, good, thoughtful people that care a lot about the country.

02:21:28.000 On both sides of the aisle.

02:21:30.000 Yeah.

02:21:30.000 And none of them are running for these offices.

02:21:32.000 They don't want to wade through that shit to get to that spot. 1.00

02:21:37.000 That's the oddest thing about Trump is that he just fucking like water off a duck's back. 1.00

02:21:44.000 He just wades through that shit. 1.00

02:21:45.000 And that's what I think drives people the most crazy. 1.00

02:21:49.000 It's part of what they call Trump derangement syndrome.

02:21:52.000 It's not just outrage about what he has said or what he has done that's infuriated people. 0.99

02:21:59.000 It's his ability to fucking brush it off like it's nothing. 0.98

02:22:03.000 It's not hitting him. 0.99

02:22:05.000 It's not hurting him.

02:22:06.000 They want to hurt him.

02:22:08.000 So then you're seeing these lawsuits now.

02:22:10.000 Now you're seeing these crimes that he's being accused of. 0.99

02:22:15.000 Now you're seeing all this shit that's going down. 0.99

02:22:18.000 Like Rudy Giuliani just gets hit with a $149 million lawsuit with these two ladies. 0.99

02:22:26.000 He has to declare bankruptcy.

02:22:28.000 You're seeing all of this stuff that's happening.

02:22:32.000 And they're just feverishly trying.

02:22:34.000 Like Colorado removed him from the ballot.

02:22:36.000 Now he has to appeal that.

02:22:38.000 Colorado removed him from the ballot because they said he was an insurrectionist.

02:22:43.000 Just wild.

02:22:44.000 Wild that you get to make that decision because if somebody else comes along and that precedent is set, it goes the other way now.

02:22:50.000 Here's the interesting thing about that.

02:22:54.000 He has not been convicted of that.

02:22:56.000 No.

02:22:57.000 So you have a court of law.

02:22:59.000 This is what's dangerous.

02:23:00.000 And everyone has to forget their blind hatred of Trump for a second.

02:23:03.000 Yeah, forget it and just look at the structure of our society.

02:23:07.000 Put the widget in there.

02:23:08.000 Insert X is the person, right?

02:23:10.000 X has not been convicted of a crime.

02:23:15.000 A Supreme Court looks at evidence that was not presented, they got it from wherever they got it from, with no defense, and makes a decision. 1.00

02:23:27.000 That's dangerous shit. 0.99

02:23:29.000 And it may not feel dangerous to people right now who think at any cost keep Trump from being president again. 0.99

02:23:36.000 But what happens when that same methodology is used against someone that you do support?

02:23:42.000 Well, you know, once you open Pandora's box and the rule of law is malleable, that's when I say I'm talking about, how is the action of today going to affect the world that my son's trying to raise a child in?

02:23:56.000 Yes.

02:23:56.000 That's what's terrifying to me, is there's so much irrational emotional behavior around our government, around our government.

02:24:05.000 You can get on The View and say whatever wacky shit you want to say, but when we're talking about courts of law, our government was built.

02:24:14.000 You've got an executive branch, a legislative branch, and a judicial branch, and it was built to operate very slowly. 0.98

02:24:19.000 It was built to be impervious of the emotion.

02:24:24.000 That's the whole reason we're a republic and not a democracy.

02:24:28.000 Because the founding fathers said, you know what?

02:24:30.000 People get real emotional.

02:24:32.000 If they can just vote on anything, and you could look at California as an example because it only takes like 20,000 signatures to get something on a ballot, which is how they've passed some feel-good emotional laws that have actually...

02:24:45.000 Had some real adverse effects on that state.

02:24:48.000 And that's the whole reason we're a representative government.

02:24:53.000 And when we can just start arbitrarily changing the rule of law and the nature of the courts, that will be used against us as a people.

02:25:02.000 It will be used against us.

02:25:03.000 It certainly will be.

02:25:04.000 And that's what's so disturbing about today's short-sightedness.

02:25:07.000 And that's what's scary about a person like Trump.

02:25:10.000 What's scary is not him.

02:25:11.000 It's the reaction to him.

02:25:13.000 It's the fact that he is able to brush these things off.

02:25:16.000 They keep coming after him with all these different things and none of them have really taken him out yet.

02:25:19.000 And so they're just furious about it.

02:25:21.000 They're so angry.

02:25:22.000 And that makes them more likely to use that defense like we got to stop Hitler. 0.70

02:25:29.000 So the first debate in 2016 or 15 or whenever it was, was on CNN. And they put Trump, who at the time is, you know, he's on The Apprentice.

02:25:41.000 He's got his show.

02:25:42.000 And they put him front and center.

02:25:43.000 There's two or three governors up there.

02:25:46.000 There's a senator up there.

02:25:47.000 There's all these other...

02:25:48.000 There's Rubio's up there.

02:25:51.000 Jeb Bush is up there from Florida.

02:25:52.000 I'm not saying that they're...

02:25:53.000 I'm just saying that we have seasoned politicians.

02:25:57.000 And CNN put him front and center and said, all right, wait for these firecrackers to go off.

02:26:05.000 This is going to be great.

02:26:06.000 This is going to be great.

02:26:08.000 And the Republican Party was freaking out.

02:26:10.000 Whoa, what's going on here?

02:26:12.000 And there was even debate if they were going to ratify him as the nominee at that point.

02:26:18.000 And the media was sitting back going, look, the ratings are through the roof.

02:26:22.000 This is great.

02:26:22.000 And I think we're kind of, this is going to work out great for Hillary.

02:26:26.000 And all of a sudden, he gets elected.

02:26:29.000 And the media was complicit in that.

02:26:31.000 And I think one of the things that pisses them off more than anything is that they put him there.

02:26:36.000 Yeah.

02:26:37.000 I think you're right.

02:26:38.000 That's part of it.

02:26:40.000 But it's also he's such an easy opponent to rally people against if you're on that other side.

02:26:48.000 And when people are very ideologically based and you can connect one person to all the things that you hate, whether it's You know, he's xenophobic. 0.96

02:26:59.000 He's racist. 0.94

02:27:00.000 He's this. 1.00

02:27:00.000 He's that. 1.00

02:27:01.000 He's gonna stop. 1.00

02:27:02.000 He's ignorant to climate change. 0.99

02:27:04.000 This is a problem. 0.99

02:27:05.000 It's a threat to our democracy.

02:27:06.000 He said he'd be a dictator for a day.

02:27:08.000 All these different narratives that get spread out and then people act on that emotion.

02:27:12.000 They're just very easy to manipulate when you have a guy. 0.94

02:27:15.000 That is boisterous, has said ridiculous things and does talk the way he talks.

02:27:21.000 It's just easy, if he's the opponent, to get people rallied up and come up with these really irrational things like what we're talking about, like removing him from the ballot.

02:27:31.000 These are crazy things you can't do unless a guy is actually guilty and proven of it.

02:27:37.000 They have to be convicted of this.

02:27:40.000 And what if they go to appeal?

02:27:41.000 What happens then?

02:27:42.000 That takes years.

02:27:45.000 There's a decent chance that the fever to get him will be the thing that gets him reelected.

02:27:50.000 I think so.

02:27:51.000 I think it's sort of along the same lines as what happened with CNN during the first election. 0.95

02:27:55.000 They thought that they were going to highlight how ridiculous he is, and it was going to crush him. 0.88

02:28:01.000 And then Hillary was going to come along as this very competent, seasoned politician, secretary of state. 1.00

02:28:07.000 Shoo-in. 0.96

02:28:08.000 First woman president, everybody's excited, and people didn't buy it. 0.99

02:28:11.000 They didn't buy it, and now they're terrified that it's going to happen again because Biden is way more vulnerable than Hillary.

02:28:18.000 Hillary was at least a seasoned politician, the wife of one of our most famous politicians.

02:28:25.000 Very articulate speaker.

02:28:26.000 Very articulate, lawyer, you know, knew how to handle herself.

02:28:32.000 And Biden is barely there.

02:28:35.000 Like, he can't debate Trump.

02:28:36.000 It's not even possible anymore.

02:28:38.000 It can't happen anymore.

02:28:39.000 We all know it can't happen.

02:28:40.000 It barely happened in 2020. But the idea of that happening again in 2024, no one believes that.

02:28:47.000 No one believes that.

02:28:48.000 We're in a spot.

02:28:50.000 We're in a crazy spot.

02:28:52.000 And then Bobby Kennedy drops out of the Democrats, and now he's an independent.

02:28:56.000 And you're like, okay, that's not ideal.

02:29:00.000 Like, ideal was they primary him and Kennedy wins.

02:29:04.000 But then there's all this...

02:29:05.000 There's different people that don't want that primary to take place.

02:29:11.000 And so he makes this decision to become independent.

02:29:14.000 I think they were going to try to block him from primaries in some way.

02:29:17.000 One of the things, and it's been trending this way since the 80s, the primary system is where the wheels really start to fall off.

02:29:25.000 Because the primaries are controlled by the extremes of the base.

02:29:30.000 Right.

02:29:30.000 The registered voters of the Democratic and Republican Party.

02:29:34.000 And the more...

02:29:40.000 Vitriolic it gets the more it pushes both sides further.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, and and so the further we go to the extreme that is gonna be the choice Man, I really think Bobby Kennedy could have won I think if he beat if he won in the primary and then it's him against Trump I think there's a lot of people that would have voted for Bobby Kennedy.

02:30:00.000 I don't know if be enough To make him elected, but I think that would be a viable candidate.

02:30:06.000 I don't know enough about him.

02:30:08.000 I've seen him speak some.

02:30:10.000 I think I saw him on your podcast, and he was like an articulate guy.

02:30:14.000 I don't know enough about him.

02:30:16.000 Well, he was an environmental lawyer forever.

02:30:18.000 I mean, he's one of the main reasons why the Hudson River got cleaned up, holding corporations accountable for environmental pollution.

02:30:25.000 That was what he did for the longest part, before all this vaccine stuff.

02:30:29.000 That was his big thing.

02:30:30.000 That was his big quest.

02:30:31.000 And just an incredibly knowledgeable guy.

02:30:34.000 Like when you talk to him, I mean, not perfect.

02:30:37.000 He's a human being.

02:30:38.000 But like a viable candidate.

02:30:41.000 Like a guy who would, I think, make a great leader.

02:30:44.000 But they didn't want him.

02:30:47.000 I felt the same way when Tulsi Gabbard was running.

02:30:50.000 I'm like, okay, you got everything you want here.

02:30:52.000 You got a brilliant woman who's a veteran, was deployed overseas twice in medical units, like put together people that got blown up.

02:31:03.000 Congresswoman for eight years, articulate from Hawaii, woman of color.

02:31:07.000 You got everything.

02:31:07.000 You got everything you want there, but you don't want her.

02:31:10.000 Why?

02:31:10.000 Because you can't control her.

02:31:12.000 Because she's independent and she has like these rock-solid moral values and she's not playing ball. 0.94

02:31:19.000 She's not playing ball.

02:31:20.000 You don't like it.

02:31:20.000 And so this best-case scenario that you had that you've always said you've been looking for, now you're ignoring that one.

02:31:27.000 Well, what?

02:31:28.000 Like, what are you doing?

02:31:30.000 What are you doing?

02:31:31.000 You're playing a weird game.

02:31:33.000 You're controlling what the people get to choose on.

02:31:35.000 You're not just controlling once you get into office.

02:31:38.000 You're controlling what the people get to choose who gets into office.

02:31:41.000 And that's what fuels conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and the people that are secretly controlling the stream.

02:31:47.000 You wonder why all those shows are so popular and all those Reddit conspiracy threads are so popular.

02:31:53.000 They're so popular because it's obvious people are conspiring. 1.00

02:31:57.000 We're not fucking stupid. 1.00

02:31:58.000 We're not stupid. 1.00

02:32:00.000 That's the whole point of the Bernie Sanders thing. 0.99

02:32:03.000 Bernie Sanders, the Democratic Party, was trying to keep him from fucking ruining the primaries with Hillary. 0.99

02:32:09.000 And they conspired. 0.94

02:32:11.000 They worked together to keep that guy out because they didn't think he was going to play ball.

02:32:15.000 And he probably wouldn't have.

02:32:17.000 It's a weird thing that people find these justifications and rationalizations for doing something that's completely opposite of the structure that was put in place by the founding fathers to prevent tyranny.

02:32:30.000 They put this stuff in place.

02:32:32.000 They set up in a very specific way that there was all these checks and balances, so it was insanely difficult for someone to become a tyrant.

02:32:40.000 Yeah.

02:32:42.000 But we have the landscape now that's being laid out that's ripe for one.

02:32:48.000 Well, that's what makes it so dangerous about social media today.

02:32:51.000 And that's what makes it so dangerous about having a guy like Trump who is either loved or hated.

02:32:57.000 That's it.

02:32:57.000 It's either one or the other.

02:32:59.000 Yeah, there's not a lot in between.

02:33:00.000 There's not a lot of people that are like, eh, he's all right.

02:33:03.000 You either love that guy or you hate that guy.

02:33:06.000 And as an enemy, as like a force that you could root against.

02:33:13.000 It's a natural inclination. 0.99

02:33:15.000 Look, I went to a fucking high school football game the other day, and it was Houston playing against Austin. 0.99

02:33:21.000 Great game. 0.99

02:33:22.000 Incredible how good these guys are in high school.

02:33:25.000 Incredible game.

02:33:27.000 Incredible game. 1.00

02:33:28.000 In Texas, football is a fucking religion. 1.00

02:33:31.000 It was amazing. 1.00

02:33:32.000 But my point is...

02:33:34.000 When you go to this thing, everybody is angry at the people from Houston.

02:33:41.000 And the people from Houston are angry at the people from Austin. 1.00

02:33:45.000 They're like, bullshit! 1.00

02:33:46.000 That fucking call sucks! 1.00

02:33:48.000 This ref sucks! 1.00

02:33:49.000 These are your fucking state! 1.00

02:33:51.000 These are your fellow people! 1.00

02:33:52.000 They live two hours away!

02:33:54.000 You can drive for two hours!

02:33:55.000 You can go visit them! 1.00

02:33:56.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:33:57.000 We're so tribal that we're tribal even inside our state with fucking kids playing football. 1.00

02:34:05.000 And I think a lot of it's this fucking sorry. 1.00

02:34:09.000 100%. 0.97

02:34:09.000 It gives equal voice to someone who you would never care what their opinion is. 0.97

02:34:14.000 Phones and social media.

02:34:15.000 That's why I don't do it. 1.00

02:34:16.000 That's why I'm not on that shit. 1.00

02:34:17.000 Good for you. 1.00

02:34:18.000 Yeah.

02:34:18.000 I wonder if I would do it if I didn't use it for my business.

02:34:24.000 I find value in it.

02:34:26.000 There's definitely some value in being exposed to interesting things.

02:34:30.000 I'm exposed to a lot of interesting things, but you've got to be real careful with that trickle. 0.77

02:34:34.000 You've got to be real careful about how much you turn that spigot on, because it could really fucking flood your house. 0.98

02:34:41.000 There's a lot of people living in the garage apartment over Mama's house that have nothing to do but sit here and fucking troll. 1.00

02:34:50.000 And troll and even just waste your time scrolling through things. 1.00

02:34:54.000 Forget about the negative aspects of it, people doing negative things, but just wasting your fucking time. 0.99

02:35:00.000 You've got to be careful, because you could look at girls doing squats for like four hours. 1.00

02:35:07.000 And you go, where did the time go?

02:35:08.000 I didn't get anything done.

02:35:10.000 And it's also dividing us.

02:35:12.000 And it's creating these bubbles, these echo chambers, where people get in.

02:35:17.000 And I find them all the time online. 0.90

02:35:19.000 I'll find someone saying something ridiculous. 0.85

02:35:21.000 Like, there was some post where this lady in Canada, she just did a... 1.00

02:35:27.000 A press conference, like, a couple days ago, where she's doing this press conference telling everybody to get vaccinated and wearing a mask at a press conference. 0.99

02:35:36.000 And I'm like, Canada has a fucking time machine. 0.98

02:35:38.000 They just brought us back to 2020. Like, this lady was recommending for kids that they get vaccinated with a mask on. 0.99

02:35:45.000 You know what's fascinating to me?

02:35:50.000 This whole...

02:35:52.000 This whole vaccine thing is one of the most fascinating things I've ever sat back and witnessed.

02:35:57.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 That, again, comes back to that rule of law and right of privacy, right of independent decisions about your body, all these things that are...

02:36:06.000 And yet, we start...

02:36:08.000 If you don't get vaccinated, people are getting kicked out.

02:36:11.000 They were losing their jobs.

02:36:12.000 Yeah.

02:36:13.000 And then it turns out, oh, whoops, it doesn't prevent you from getting it.

02:36:18.000 It doesn't prevent you from transmitting it.

02:36:23.000 And it might have a host of side effects.

02:36:25.000 Whoops.

02:36:26.000 And then it's just kind of like went away.

02:36:28.000 And every now and then you'll see a commercial, get your booster, but all the, all the, you're losing your job, you're, you know, they were vilifying people.

02:36:36.000 They were vilifying people.

02:36:37.000 And in Canada, at least, they're trying to bring it back.

02:36:40.000 I just, I can't, watching that video was like bananas.

02:36:43.000 You see this lady giving a, but she's wearing a mask and there's no one near her. 1.00

02:36:49.000 She's in front of a podium.

02:36:51.000 She's wearing a mask.

02:36:53.000 I was saying it earlier.

02:36:54.000 I see people driving by themselves.

02:36:57.000 Yeah.

02:36:58.000 Wearing a mask.

02:36:59.000 Yeah.

02:36:59.000 It's an anxiety thing.

02:37:01.000 It's a mental illness thing as well.

02:37:03.000 It's also a delusional thing because if you look at it scientifically, it doesn't work.

02:37:08.000 It just doesn't work.

02:37:10.000 Those cloth masks that people wear, those little surgical masks, they just don't do jack shant. 1.00

02:37:14.000 Well, they told us they didn't work for the first six weeks or eight weeks of the deal.

02:37:18.000 Fauci stood up there and said, hey, it doesn't work.

02:37:20.000 In fact, you're more likely...

02:37:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:37:22.000 To get it if you wear a mask, because you don't know how to wear a mask, which kind of sounded like bullshit to me, but that's what he said. 0.99

02:37:30.000 And then he's like, I can't hurt. 0.94

02:37:32.000 And then about a month later, you have to.

02:37:35.000 Where's the scientific data for any of this?

02:37:37.000 I don't know what happened there.

02:37:39.000 Maybe Nancy Pelosi had some mask stock. 0.98

02:37:42.000 Maybe they all did.

02:37:44.000 I mean, I get why you would think it would work.

02:37:47.000 But as soon as you know that it doesn't work, we should move to science then.

02:37:50.000 Because if you're saying trust the science, okay, well, the science seems to indicate that it doesn't work.

02:37:54.000 So maybe we thought it worked.

02:37:56.000 We did some studies.

02:37:57.000 We found out not only does it not work, but there's also problems that come from wearing dirty masks.

02:38:01.000 There's also a thing where you're not supposed to, if you have those really tight ones, like those N95s or whatever, you're not supposed to wear them for long periods of time.

02:38:08.000 They're not designed for that.

02:38:09.000 Well, they're cutting your oxygen.

02:38:10.000 Yeah.

02:38:10.000 They're designed for short periods of time.

02:38:12.000 They're also increasing the amount of carbon dioxide.

02:38:14.000 Yeah.

02:38:14.000 It's not good.

02:38:15.000 And it's also, your bacteria is spraying on the mask.

02:38:18.000 It's growing inside the mask.

02:38:20.000 You're breathing that in. 1.00

02:38:21.000 Who knows what the fuck's going on there? 0.99

02:38:23.000 It was, science was conveniently used. 0.99

02:38:27.000 Again, we politicized a pandemic.

02:38:30.000 Right.

02:38:31.000 And they haven't figured out how to, that genie's not fitting back in the bottle.

02:38:36.000 It was also one of the rare times where people were told not to do your own research.

02:38:42.000 Don't do your own research.

02:38:43.000 Trust the science.

02:38:44.000 Like, that was a narrative.

02:38:45.000 Like, trust who?

02:38:46.000 You? 1.00

02:38:47.000 Brought to you by Pfizer on fucking CNN? This is crazy. 1.00

02:38:49.000 I can't believe this is even real.

02:38:51.000 This is so...

02:38:52.000 It's so Orwellian.

02:38:54.000 It's so propagated. 1.00

02:38:55.000 If it was in a film, a dystopian film about the future, you'd be like, how did they get that stupid? 1.00

02:39:00.000 That seems weird that they would be that dumb. 1.00

02:39:04.000 That it's brought to you by Pfizer. 1.00

02:39:06.000 Don't do your own research.

02:39:09.000 Do your own reason.

02:39:10.000 What are you, a conspiracy theorist?

02:39:11.000 Are you an anti-vaxxer?

02:39:14.000 You're the reason why people are dying. 0.85

02:39:16.000 Like, you'd be like, this movie's nuts.

02:39:18.000 But that's exactly what it was. 0.99

02:39:20.000 The fucking White House put out a press report that said that for the unvaccinated, don't worry, you've done your part. 0.99

02:39:28.000 But for the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death. 1.00

02:39:35.000 This is when it was mild.

02:39:38.000 This is the mild strain that was killing probably less people than the flu.

02:39:42.000 What are you talking about?

02:39:45.000 It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.

02:39:47.000 It's nuts.

02:39:48.000 It's nuts.

02:39:49.000 And now we're finding out that the government was paying social media sites and paying media to go after anti-vaxxers.

02:40:00.000 They were paying them.

02:40:01.000 The thing that I think is the greatest casualty of the past really, I'm going to say six to eight years, but with 2020, with the vaccine...

02:40:15.000 With everything you go back to...

02:40:16.000 And look, again, I'm not a saying I'm a supporter, but I mean, when you sit here and say, this is a hoax, that's a hoax.

02:40:23.000 Oh, turns out it's not a hoax.

02:40:24.000 This is not true.

02:40:25.000 This was that.

02:40:26.000 Nope, turns out that is true.

02:40:28.000 Yeah, this is misinformation.

02:40:29.000 Yeah.

02:40:30.000 Yeah.

02:40:30.000 And then we just try and wash it under the rug and we just...

02:40:34.000 Don't look over here.

02:40:35.000 Look over here. 0.99

02:40:36.000 Don't look at the fucking thousands of homeless in San Francisco that are all suddenly gone the day before the whatever they call the Prime Minister of China or Premier or whatever. 0.99

02:40:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:40:46.000 The Xi Jinping thing? 0.99

02:40:47.000 Yeah.

02:40:48.000 Streets are spotless.

02:40:49.000 I was just looking through my phone to try to find that video, Jamie.

02:40:51.000 See if you can find it of that lady announcing that people should be boosted.

02:40:55.000 I don't know.

02:40:55.000 Goddammit, I should have saved it.

02:40:56.000 But maybe it's end wokeness on Twitter.

02:40:58.000 Maybe he had it.

02:40:59.000 It's one of those accounts that I follow.

02:41:01.000 The great casualty of this is going to be Mainstream media.

02:41:05.000 They're going to lose because as soon as you lose trust in a news source, it becomes not a news source unless it's telling you what you want to hear.

02:41:14.000 So now these major news publications that we all relied on for unbiased news or largely unbiased news are no longer that.

02:41:24.000 And so all you can turn to is the one that Right.

02:41:30.000 They become activists.

02:41:46.000 Yeah, and that would definitely be in the favor of people who want to keep us divided and going after each other so they can continue to tighten their grip on what we can and can't do.

02:42:00.000 Have you ever seen the Green Beret Handbook has basically a pyramid of how to overthrow a country? 0.88

02:42:06.000 Really?

02:42:07.000 Yeah.

02:42:07.000 I got to piss.

02:42:08.000 Can we hold that thought?

02:42:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:10.000 Come back with the Green Beret pyramid?

02:42:11.000 I want to hear that.

02:42:12.000 All right.

02:42:12.000 We'll be right back.

02:42:13.000 We're back.

02:42:14.000 The Green Beret handbook on how to overthrow a country. 1.00

02:42:17.000 So how does that work?

02:42:17.000 Yeah.

02:42:18.000 Well, I'm going to get it wrong.

02:42:19.000 But essentially, it really begins with dividing a people and creating a lack of faith in the government.

02:42:27.000 And the more that you can, if you can start to infiltrate institutions, like institutions of education, if you can start to If you could start to, and chances are very high that, you know, our enemies, and we have them as the United States,

02:42:43.000 we certainly have enemies that have a lot of money and a lot of technical power and time and play the long game and have been injecting these things for 30, 40 years into our society.

02:42:58.000 But if you, we could probably pull it up somewhere, I bet he could find it.

02:43:01.000 Well, that's the Yuri Bezmenov thing.

02:43:03.000 You've seen that video, right, on YouTube?

02:43:05.000 No.

02:43:06.000 Oh, you haven't?

02:43:07.000 It's amazing.

02:43:08.000 It's a guy in 1984. He's a defector from the KGB. He's explaining the ideological subversion that they've imparted in these American institutions, how they've done that, exactly what you're talking about. 0.56

02:43:18.000 How they started injecting Marxism and Leninism.

02:43:20.000 He's talking about how many generations it takes before you destroy the morale of the country and all faith and democracy.

02:43:27.000 And it's essentially what we're seeing now.

02:43:28.000 What he was saying, it has already begun.

02:43:30.000 This ideological subversion.

02:43:33.000 And he lays it all out in 1984 in an interview.

02:43:36.000 You have to see it.

02:43:37.000 Paul Harvey, you know who that is?

02:43:39.000 Sure.

02:43:39.000 So he did a thing back in the 60s or 70s, and he equated it to the devil.

02:43:45.000 And maybe it is.

02:43:46.000 Or you could also say it's just that.

02:43:49.000 But he did a radio piece on how to destroy America, the social fabric of it.

02:43:54.000 And it's as though somebody just took...

02:43:59.000 America, the social fabric of America from the late 60s to today.

02:44:05.000 And the timeline of the things that he said.

02:44:08.000 It's pretty wicked.

02:44:08.000 It's pretty powerful.

02:44:09.000 I'm not shocked.

02:44:12.000 I mean, if you think about all the things that we do to manipulate other countries, I'm not shocked that someone would do that and manipulate us, and that they would do it through education institutions.

02:44:21.000 That's the way to do it.

02:44:22.000 You get kids, and then you train them as they leave, and then they go into the workforce.

02:44:27.000 They have these ideas, like, burned into their heads. 0.98

02:44:30.000 And that's probably what all this gender confusion shit is, this giant uptick of it. 0.99

02:44:34.000 It's literally probably engineered. 0.98

02:44:36.000 And I think that's also what a lot of the climate stuff is.

02:44:39.000 And a lot of the different things that people are fighting over, it's not just these big financial institutions that are invested in climate change and green energy and all these different things, but it's also other countries just fucking with us.

02:44:54.000 I think it's a lot of the trolling that you're seeing online is fueled by other countries.

02:44:59.000 I think a lot of the narratives that get pushed are fueled by other countries, and I think that's what we would do.

02:45:06.000 We're probably doing it too.

02:45:08.000 I'm sure.

02:45:09.000 I'm sure we are.

02:45:09.000 It's a PSYOP, right?

02:45:11.000 Yeah, I'm sure we're doing it too.

02:45:12.000 Yeah.

02:45:13.000 But I'm sure that's also one of the reasons why it would be nice to be able to lock down the internet.

02:45:17.000 We have to be able to stop that.

02:45:18.000 So we're going to only have government-approved internet like China has.

02:45:21.000 That's how China keeps us from interfering with their lives.

02:45:24.000 And the only way that we know that we're going to do the right thing over here.

02:45:27.000 But you know what?

02:45:27.000 China's really playing.

02:45:28.000 They're doing something nasty.

02:45:29.000 So we're not going to let them in on our internet anymore.

02:45:32.000 We're going to shut our internet down and only make it for people in North America.

02:45:35.000 And everybody will be like, okay, got to keep China out. 0.99

02:45:40.000 Yeah.

02:45:40.000 Slowly but surely, if we let them, they'll try to get more and more control.

02:45:44.000 And that gets fucking super sketchy. 0.99

02:45:47.000 Super sketchy. 0.99

02:45:49.000 Yep.

02:45:50.000 So did you find this Green Beret... 0.98

02:45:55.000 I went down a path, and I don't think I'm going to get there, because would the Greenbrae handbook that tells you how to overthrow government be available on the internet?

02:46:03.000 It better not be.

02:46:07.000 Play a little of that Yuri Bezmanov.

02:46:08.000 I know we played it many times, but you need to hear it, because it's so wild to watch him say it.

02:46:13.000 You watch him say it in 1984, and back then...

02:46:16.000 You pull up the Paul Harvey thing from whenever that was, about the devil.

02:46:18.000 Maybe let's play that.

02:46:19.000 Pull that up, because I haven't heard that, and I've heard the Benvenoff thing.

02:46:22.000 We've played it only five times, at least.

02:46:24.000 It'll blow your mind when you hear this.

02:46:25.000 It's not good, but it also gives us a chance to right the ship. 0.98

02:46:30.000 It hasn't fucking hit the rocks yet. 0.60

02:46:31.000 Like, we can still come out of this. 0.99

02:46:36.000 Paul Harvey.

02:46:39.000 If I were the devil, if I were the prince of darkness, I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness, and I'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population,

02:46:54.000 but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree.

02:46:59.000 The.

02:47:00.000 So I'd set about however necessary to take over the United States.

02:47:05.000 I'd subvert the churches first.

02:47:06.000 I'd begin with a campaign of whispers.

02:47:08.000 With the wisdom of the serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve.

02:47:12.000 Do as you please.

02:47:14.000 To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is a myth.

02:47:17.000 I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around.

02:47:21.000 I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square.

02:47:25.000 And the old I would teach to pray after me, our Father, which art in Washington.

02:47:34.000 And then I'd get organized.

02:47:35.000 I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting.

02:47:41.000 I'd threaten TV with dirtier movies, and vice versa.

02:47:45.000 I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could.

02:47:46.000 I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction.

02:47:50.000 I'd tranquilize the rest with pills.

02:47:52.000 If I were the devil, I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves, until each in its turn was consumed.

02:48:03.000 And with promises of higher ratings, I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.

02:48:10.000 If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions.

02:48:16.000 Just let those run wild.

02:48:17.000 Wow!

02:48:17.000 Until before you knew it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

02:48:23.000 Holy shit! 0.99

02:48:26.000 I'd have prisons overflowing. 1.00

02:48:28.000 I'd have judges promoting pornography. 1.00

02:48:31.000 Soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress.

02:48:37.000 And in his own churches, I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science.

02:48:42.000 I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money.

02:48:47.000 If I were the devil, I'd make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas.

02:48:52.000 A bottle.

02:48:53.000 If I were the devil, I'd take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.

02:49:01.000 And what'll you bet?

02:49:03.000 I couldn't get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich.

02:49:10.000 I would caution against extremes in hard work, in patriotism, in moral conduct.

02:49:18.000 I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned. 0.89

02:49:22.000 That swinging is more fun.

02:49:24.000 That what you see on TV is the way to be.

02:49:28.000 And thus I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure. 0.99

02:49:39.000 In other words, if I were the devil, I'd just keep right on doing what he's doing.

02:49:47.000 What year was that? 1.00

02:49:50.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:49:52.000 1965. That's amazing. 1.00

02:49:55.000 65. April 3rd, 1965, Paul Harvey nailed it.

02:50:01.000 Yeah.

02:50:02.000 Wow.

02:50:03.000 So you can use devilism, euphemism for anything that you want.

02:50:07.000 Yeah.

02:50:08.000 But the result's the same, and we're seeing that, you know, I think they said, somebody said, all these things are bad, work ethic, all these things are racist.

02:50:19.000 Yeah.

02:50:21.000 Yeah, toxic masculinity. 0.99

02:50:23.000 Yeah.

02:50:24.000 Oh yeah, I've been accused of that.

02:50:27.000 Congratulations.

02:50:28.000 You're on the right side.

02:50:32.000 That's a fascinating one.

02:50:34.000 Yeah.

02:50:36.000 Defund the police.

02:50:37.000 Toxic masculinity.

02:50:38.000 Yeah, that worked great.

02:50:39.000 Yeah, they're all in the same sort of category of things. 0.79

02:50:42.000 Like, that seems silly. 0.94

02:50:44.000 Seems silly to think that way.

02:50:46.000 You need all of it.

02:50:47.000 You need masculinity and femininity. 1.00

02:50:49.000 It's okay. 0.99

02:50:50.000 Be whatever you are, but you fucking need it. 0.99

02:50:54.000 And if you want to tell those dudes that are playing football that they're toxic masculine, what else are you going to get? 0.99

02:51:01.000 Who's gonna play football other than like super aggressive alpha males?

02:51:04.000 What are you talking about?

02:51:05.000 But why is that- That's not toxic.

02:51:07.000 That's not toxic.

02:51:08.000 No, it's just natural masculine behavior.

02:51:10.000 Yeah.

02:51:11.000 It's not toxic.

02:51:13.000 What about toxic? 1.00

02:51:14.000 It's all stupid. 1.00

02:51:15.000 That term, as applied, it's like... 1.00

02:51:18.000 But these are all terms that have been created.

02:51:20.000 It's fascinating.

02:51:21.000 The language is being reinvented before our eyes.

02:51:24.000 There's all these new words that are just meant to keep one person from disagreeing with another person's position.

02:51:32.000 I love microaggressions.

02:51:34.000 Oh, that's a great one.

02:51:35.000 Just like little bitty... 1.00

02:51:36.000 Oh, that was a microaggression.

02:51:38.000 Yeah, and you can call people out.

02:51:39.000 I called them out on this microaggression.

02:51:41.000 Like, what?

02:51:43.000 I don't think I've ever been guilty. 0.98

02:51:45.000 I don't think anyone's ever been curious about my, you know, if I'm upset at you, you're gonna fucking know it. 0.73

02:51:51.000 Yeah, that's how it should be. 0.55

02:51:53.000 Yeah.

02:51:54.000 Well, that's one of the things I really loved about that Ronald Reagan, Walter Mundale thing.

02:51:58.000 Like, look at Walter Mundale laughing when Ronald Reagan got him with that.

02:52:02.000 They had respect for each other.

02:52:04.000 They completely disagreed, policy-wise.

02:52:08.000 What changed?

02:52:10.000 What changed in us?

02:52:14.000 This guy's a wizard on the computer, so he'll find it for me.

02:52:17.000 There's a guy that wrote a book.

02:52:19.000 I have not read it.

02:52:20.000 I just read this passage.

02:52:21.000 I think the New York Times or Atlantic or somebody wrote about this.

02:52:25.000 And he's either a political writer.

02:52:29.000 And I can't remember his name.

02:52:31.000 Book was written in the 90s.

02:52:32.000 And he talked about the fundamental difference between liberalism and conservatism and the reason that it's destined to continue moving out to these extremes and that there can't ever be any compromise.

02:52:46.000 And essentially, it stated that the liberal point of view was that crime and all these social ills, it's a social construct.

02:52:55.000 And that if you could find a way to level the playing field for everybody, that crime would be eliminated.

02:53:01.000 All these issues would go away.

02:53:03.000 Poverty would go away.

02:53:05.000 All the social ills that we have would disappear if everyone had the same opportunities and the same stuff.

02:53:13.000 The flip side of that is the conservative view, which is there's evil in the world.

02:53:20.000 There's good in the world. 0.99

02:53:21.000 We're going to try and manage the evil as best we can and create an opportunity for people to succeed or they can fuck up and best of luck. 0.98

02:53:32.000 One side seems naive. 0.89

02:53:34.000 One side seems extremely harsh, but those are the beliefs and that side can never compromise with this side.

02:53:42.000 And vice versa, because you're abandoning your own ideology.

02:53:45.000 Yeah.

02:53:46.000 That's essentially it.

02:53:47.000 And you're also seeing now...

02:53:50.000 This is a weird one.

02:53:52.000 I was watching this clip that I saw on YouTube of Tucker Carlson on Tim Pool's show talking about aliens.

02:54:00.000 And he's talking about it from like a...

02:54:03.000 Almost like a religious perspective.

02:54:06.000 I think what they're essentially saying is that he was talking about good and evil.

02:54:11.000 See if you can find the clip.

02:54:12.000 He's talking about good and evil.

02:54:15.000 And he's talking about it in relationship to UFOs, and that they've always been here.

02:54:22.000 So it's like, are you trying to say, like, what does he know?

02:54:26.000 And can you say what you know?

02:54:27.000 Like, why do you think this?

02:54:29.000 And are you saying that, like, a lot of the talk of, like, angels and devils in the Bible, and good and evil, that it actually manifests itself in physical form, And we don't know what it looks like because we haven't seen it.

02:54:45.000 But when we do see it, we think it's a UFO. So we think it's from another planet, but it's really just evil or really just good.

02:54:52.000 So it's angels and devils.

02:54:54.000 Is that what you're saying? 0.65

02:54:56.000 Because if that's what you're saying, boy, that's a fucking freaky argument because that's one of the weirdest arguments about the UFO thing is that we are essentially containers of souls and that what this planet is for, for these beings, is they mine souls here and that they develop souls here.

02:55:16.000 And that all of our motivations for existing and all of our ego and all of our ambition is really just a way to carry that soul as a vessel. 0.52

02:55:27.000 That they then harvest?

02:55:29.000 I don't know.

02:55:31.000 I don't understand what the argument is.

02:55:33.000 That sounds like what should have been the sequel to Matrix instead of what was.

02:55:39.000 That would have been a better version.

02:55:40.000 That's how artificial intelligence is created.

02:55:44.000 That's how life is created.

02:55:45.000 Much how a bee creates a bee colony.

02:55:48.000 They create a bee hive.

02:55:49.000 Inside the hive, the queen lays the larva. 0.94

02:55:52.000 Everyone knows how to do it, and they all do it that way.

02:55:54.000 Maybe the soul being in this biological vehicle and given this intelligence and this desire to achieve and to pursue technological innovations and all these different things that human beings do, allows them to get to the point where we're at right now.

02:56:13.000 Where they create artificial intelligence.

02:56:15.000 And what these UAPs and UFOs that are appearing in greater numbers and being reported by all these fighter jet pilots, maybe what they're doing is they're witnessing the farmers who are coming by to watch their creation give birth to this thing,

02:56:33.000 which is them.

02:56:35.000 Which would be AI. Which is AI. Not artificial.

02:56:39.000 Artificial is the wrong word.

02:56:40.000 A new form of life.

02:56:42.000 A life that is not based in biology and breeding through sperm and cells and eggs, but instead completely technological and able to self-reproduce and able to create its own version of itself that's far superior to the one that initially created it.

02:56:58.000 And that it would constantly do that.

02:57:00.000 And that's what the universe is filled with.

02:57:03.000 That what we are... 1.00

02:57:05.000 We're just this fucking caterpillar that's making a cocoon. 1.00

02:57:09.000 We don't even know what we're doing. 0.99

02:57:10.000 And we're gonna give birth to this butterfly.

02:57:12.000 And that's what the whole human race is about.

02:57:15.000 And that's the sinister aspect.

02:57:16.000 That's what good and evil and all these different things playing off against each other is that we need this constant competition.

02:57:22.000 We're always searching for utopia, searching for that meadow we can retire in.

02:57:26.000 But it's like this strife and this struggle is what makes us continue to push society further and further until this thing is born.

02:57:34.000 Listen to what Tucker says.

02:57:36.000 It's my personal belief, based on a fair amount of evidence, that they're not aliens.

02:57:41.000 They've always been here.

02:57:43.000 And I do think it's spiritual.

02:57:45.000 That's my view.

02:57:46.000 And again, it's not provable, but based on the evidence, I think.

02:57:52.000 If the U.S. government has, in fact, Had contact, direct contact with these beings, whatever they are, I've already told you what I think they are, and has entered into some sort of agreement with them, which is the claim of informed people, I would say, whether they're right or wrong, I can't say conclusively.

02:58:08.000 But if that is true, I mean, it's a very, very, very heavy thing.

02:58:13.000 A lot of people say interdimensional beings.

02:58:15.000 I want to ask, are angels and demons, or how would you describe these beings?

02:58:20.000 Again, I'm getting into the realm of conjecture, so I just want to say that flat out.

02:58:24.000 Entity.

02:58:25.000 But one thing I know for a dead certain fact, having seen it, is that there is good and evil that we're being acted upon at all times.

02:58:32.000 And I think every person can feel that in himself.

02:58:35.000 I mean, there are moments when you...

02:58:37.000 Are moved to do things that are much better than you actually are, and that are also more evil and destructive than you actually are.

02:58:44.000 You are subject to forces from outside yourself.

02:58:47.000 That is absolutely true.

02:58:48.000 Now, we can argue about what they are, but every person in the room, if he's reflective, will tell you, yes, I know what you're talking about.

02:58:54.000 And so there are forces that are not human, that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind, That might be what's going on.

02:59:15.000 Well, those are some patient freaking alien angels because they waited around 10,000 years from discovering a wheel and domesticating the first plant to electricity.

02:59:31.000 Well, if you have artificial intelligence, if you have a life form that's a million years more advanced than us, it's non-biological at that point, you have all the time in the world.

02:59:40.000 And what is time?

02:59:41.000 You start spending time.

02:59:43.000 And one of the primary theories about how life got started on Earth is panspermia.

02:59:48.000 Which is that amino acids and these various building blocks of life come in in asteroids.

02:59:54.000 They slam into the earth.

02:59:55.000 And that somehow or another over the course of millions and millions of years of chemical interactions, billions of years, you have life, single cell, complex life.

03:00:03.000 And then that life advances to the point where it creates a new version of life.

03:00:09.000 And if that is just how it works everywhere, we say, oh my god, that takes so much time.

03:00:14.000 But does it? 0.99

03:00:14.000 Because think about how much time it takes to make a fucking planet. 0.99

03:00:17.000 Think about how much time it takes for all that matter to coalesce and to gel up into this fucking ball. 0.99

03:00:24.000 And then for the temperature to stabilize, because it has a moon around it that's... 1.00

03:00:27.000 You know one quarter the size of the planet itself and everything is kind of stable and it gets to the point where biological life can exist and then it starts fucking making shit and make better and better and better and start arguing with shit about climate change and gender pronouns and all this stupid shit while it's the real thing it's doing is forcing you to get that motherfucker online. 0.99

03:00:47.000 Get that new life form online. 1.00

03:00:49.000 That's what you really do stupid. 1.00

03:00:52.000 The thing that has always... 1.00

03:00:55.000 And even Stephen Hawking talked about it.

03:00:57.000 So you've got the Big Bang Theory, where you have essentially all this antimatter compressed upon itself until it explodes and creates matter.

03:01:06.000 And the hole in that argument is...

03:01:09.000 There's no matter.

03:01:10.000 There's nothing.

03:01:11.000 And there was so much nothing that it compressed until there was something.

03:01:15.000 And so the first thing that we base everything on defies the laws of physics.

03:01:20.000 Like, how can nothing compress itself until it makes something?

03:01:26.000 I... You know, we could be off.0002% on our theories of life and how this universe was formed.

03:01:38.000 And if that's wrong, we don't have any fucking idea where we are, what this is. 0.73

03:01:42.000 No, we don't. 0.91

03:01:43.000 And Terence McKenna once said it best, that science asks of you one miracle.

03:01:49.000 That's the big bang.

03:01:51.000 It is one miracle.

03:01:52.000 It really is kind of like a miracle.

03:01:55.000 In the beginning, there was nothing.

03:01:57.000 And then God created the earth and the skies.

03:01:59.000 And it's essentially what the Bible is trying to say.

03:02:01.000 They're just doing it in a way...

03:02:03.000 And the Bible got it right. 0.98

03:02:05.000 They got the order right.

03:02:07.000 Right.

03:02:09.000 I think it's based on an understanding that people had achieved.

03:02:13.000 Because if you think about the Bible, right?

03:02:15.000 And if all these people are correct about the original history of sophisticated civilization, if the Randall Carlsons and the Graham Hancocks and the Robert Shocks of the world and the John Anthony West, if they're correct in the timeline of, say, the most sophisticated society that we are aware of,

03:02:30.000 which is Africa.

03:02:31.000 If those people that lived in Africa 30,000, 40,000 years ago in Egypt, if they created... 0.97

03:02:38.000 A society that was infinitely more sophisticated than anything that we had ever seen before.

03:02:47.000 How did they do that?

03:02:49.000 Who did that? 0.91

03:02:51.000 And what was that like? 0.99

03:02:56.000 What the fuck was that like? 0.98

03:02:57.000 What was that world like back then? 0.99

03:02:59.000 Have you ever really stopped and tried to think and imagine what was that world like back then? 0.89

03:03:07.000 Well, how about that you have a similar world in Central and South America where they also had built things many thousands of years ago that still, like, how the fuck do you do that? 0.95

03:03:20.000 Yeah. 0.85

03:03:20.000 How'd you do that? 0.85

03:03:22.000 Easter Island.

03:03:23.000 How did y'all make those things?

03:03:25.000 Yeah.

03:03:25.000 How in the world?

03:03:26.000 And then move them.

03:03:28.000 Well, I think if those things go down and then people have to rebuild, I think it takes a long time before people figure out what happened.

03:03:38.000 I think it takes a long time, and I think that's where a lot of the confusion that you see in the Bible comes from.

03:03:45.000 Like, God made the earth and the sky and everything in like six days, right?

03:03:50.000 And on the sixth day, he rested.

03:03:53.000 Okay.

03:03:54.000 What are they actually saying, though?

03:03:56.000 You're getting things that are translated from an oral history of a thousand years, and then they're writing it down in Aramaic, they're writing it down in ancient Hebrew.

03:04:05.000 And you're getting it many, [...

03:04:09.000 Long after...

03:04:10.000 Diluted and...

03:04:11.000 Yeah.

03:04:11.000 All kinds of...

03:04:12.000 Think about what people are willing to do today to the Constitution.

03:04:16.000 Today.

03:04:17.000 With all the information that we have about the dangers of this, think about what they're trying to do today.

03:04:22.000 Now imagine what you would do if you had the real knowledge of the birth of the solar system, of the development of human beings, and the God energy of the universe, and you tried to translate it.

03:04:36.000 Over an oral history because there's chaos because there's no more cities anymore and everyone's dead and you're just like hunting and gathering as cave people and you're trying to relay this origin story of mankind and then it gets written down in parables and it gets written down in Latin and it gets translated over the years and and then people try okay then they sit down and they look at it many years later they go what the What the fuck were they trying to say?

03:05:01.000 Like, what were they trying to say?

03:05:03.000 Because so much of what they're trying to say, if you're really paying attention, like, it seems like it's kind of laid out like the origins of the universe.

03:05:12.000 If in the beginning there was nothing?

03:05:14.000 Yeah.

03:05:14.000 Like, they're talking about the Big Bang.

03:05:16.000 If these scientists all agree, how did they know that back then?

03:05:18.000 Then there was light.

03:05:19.000 That would be the Big Bang.

03:05:20.000 Why wouldn't they assume back then that God was always around?

03:05:23.000 Why would they assume that God had to make everything?

03:05:26.000 Why would they assume that there was a beginning and an end just because they have a beginning and an end?

03:05:30.000 Is that rational?

03:05:31.000 Why would they assume that?

03:05:33.000 And why did everybody assume that? 1.00

03:05:34.000 Maybe because they fucking knew. 0.99

03:05:36.000 Maybe because at one point in time, whether it's 10,000 years ago, 20,000 years ago, they had figured a lot of this shit out. 0.99

03:05:42.000 Well, someone figured something out for the pyramids and the way that they were built to be aligned so perfectly with a true north and... 0.95

03:05:50.000 Just to be able to construct them.

03:05:51.000 If those people were that smart, why wouldn't we imagine they had an understanding of the birth of the universe?

03:05:58.000 Why wouldn't we imagine they would have this bizarre understanding of the way morality and good and evil play out with human beings?

03:06:07.000 Maybe they were right. 0.89

03:06:08.000 Maybe they were right, but it all just got fucked up over the thousands of years after asteroid impacts and thousands of years of the destruction of the advanced civilizations and the world going back into chaos and then slowly rebuilding.

03:06:22.000 And you're rebuilding with these ancient texts that you find in clay pots in Qumran.

03:06:26.000 You ever seen when they translate the Dead Sea Scrolls?

03:06:29.000 They lay them out, and they have to try to figure out which pieces go with which scroll, and they do it based on DNA. All this DNA is from this cow, so let's take this scroll from this cow skin and put it together and try to read what the fuck they said. 0.99

03:06:42.000 It's incredible. 0.99

03:06:43.000 But it makes sense.

03:06:45.000 It makes sense if you buy into the idea that there's been a restart of civilization, and then you go back and say, okay, what is the history of the Bible?

03:06:54.000 Like, how old is it?

03:06:55.000 What's the oldest version?

03:06:56.000 Like, what's the oldest version of the story?

03:06:59.000 Who knows?

03:07:00.000 Who knows?

03:07:01.000 Right.

03:07:01.000 What was the original...

03:07:02.000 Like, you're playing a game of telegram, right, or telephone, with over a thousand years.

03:07:07.000 Yeah.

03:07:07.000 With who knows how many people.

03:07:09.000 But if we've seen what...

03:07:12.000 The Egyptian people were able to build.

03:07:15.000 What was that like?

03:07:17.000 How sophisticated were they?

03:07:19.000 And maybe what we're getting at in the Bible is just the longest game of telephone of a true story.

03:07:26.000 It's just all kind of gumbled up in stories and God's testing you and all this thing about, you know, God telling this guy to kill his kid. 0.87

03:07:35.000 It's just a little screwed up.

03:07:37.000 But it's showing you that there are evil forces at play and there are temptations.

03:07:43.000 It's digestible lessons in a story that you can understand.

03:07:47.000 Exactly.

03:07:47.000 But at the heart of it, there's some truth to it.

03:07:49.000 Because what is a day to God?

03:07:53.000 Yeah, what does that mean?

03:07:54.000 Is that a billion years?

03:07:56.000 A million years?

03:07:57.000 A hundred billion?

03:07:57.000 Who knows?

03:07:58.000 Who fucking knows? 0.99

03:07:58.000 Who knows? 0.99

03:07:59.000 But it's presented in a way that you can digest it.

03:08:01.000 Yes.

03:08:02.000 And then our version of it is this simplified, uneducated, barbaric version that gets translated from people that are involved in sword fights.

03:08:13.000 They're fighting each other with swords and hacking each other to death for thousands of years while they're telling this story.

03:08:20.000 The Crusades!

03:08:21.000 All these different things that people did during that time, horrific things.

03:08:26.000 And during that time, they're doing it, many of them, in defense of their god, in defense of their religion.

03:08:31.000 They're motivating people by these books.

03:08:33.000 It's fascinating stuff.

03:08:35.000 It's fascinating.

03:08:37.000 But when you hear a guy like Tucker Carlson saying, what else do you know, bro?

03:08:42.000 Say what you know.

03:08:43.000 What makes you say that?

03:08:46.000 Because if that really is what it is, that would make sense to me, why the government would keep that information from people.

03:08:52.000 Because if we found out that people were essentially just a vessel of souls, And that we are essentially designed to give birth to artificial intelligence.

03:09:01.000 And then that will be the end of us.

03:09:02.000 So that's why they're not worried about nuclear war.

03:09:04.000 That's why they're not worried about the environment. 0.99

03:09:06.000 That's why they don't give a fuck about anything. 0.98

03:09:08.000 This is all coming to an end. 0.98

03:09:10.000 We're there.

03:09:12.000 We have it.

03:09:13.000 We have it to the degree that people are already relying on it heavily.

03:09:17.000 Yeah.

03:09:18.000 Advertising agencies are relying on it to tell them how to cut a commercial, how present the logo needs to be in the commercial.

03:09:24.000 I guess this is happening right now.

03:09:26.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

03:09:26.000 This shit just appeared three years ago. 1.00

03:09:28.000 Right. 1.00

03:09:28.000 And now, I think somewhere, maybe it's Brazil, and I could be wrong, but somewhere, AI just wrote its first law. 1.00

03:09:37.000 Boom.

03:09:39.000 They used AI to write a law.

03:09:41.000 You can look up...

03:09:42.000 Where is that?

03:09:43.000 That's scary.

03:09:44.000 I don't know why I think it's Brazil or El Salvador somewhere.

03:09:46.000 South or Central America.

03:09:48.000 That's how it begins.

03:09:50.000 I, for one, welcome President AI. I think they'll be wiser, they're gonna do a great job, and they're definitely not going to be anti-human at all.

03:10:00.000 They're gonna see our flaws as our strengths.

03:10:03.000 Brazilian city passed a law without water meters.

03:10:06.000 ChatGPT wrote it.

03:10:08.000 Wow.

03:10:10.000 Wow.

03:10:10.000 Only after it had passed, they revealed that it was created by AI. But that seems like it was prompted.

03:10:18.000 AI has to prompt it. 0.99

03:10:20.000 The really scary thing is when AI doesn't prompt it, and it just creates its own shit. 0.98

03:10:24.000 Or when someone doesn't prompt the AI, rather. 0.98

03:10:26.000 Remember how wild you thought Terminator was the first time you saw it?

03:10:29.000 Yeah.

03:10:31.000 We're just skipping toward it.

03:10:33.000 Have you ever seen those memes?

03:10:34.000 It's Sarah Connor looking at you while you make friends with ChatGPT.

03:10:39.000 No, I've never seen any memes in my life.

03:10:40.000 I'm not obsessed with you.

03:10:41.000 Oh, that's right!

03:10:42.000 You're a meme freak!

03:10:43.000 I'll have to start sending you something, because I've got some funny ones too.

03:10:45.000 You want to text them.

03:10:46.000 I'll text them to you. 0.99

03:10:47.000 Don't worry, I've got some fucking bangers. 0.99

03:10:50.000 I'm in some text chains with some comedians. 0.99

03:10:53.000 I've got the best memes on earth.

03:10:54.000 They all come my way.

03:10:56.000 It's awesome.

03:10:56.000 There's so many funny people out there that are creating memes.

03:10:59.000 It's a specific type of humor that is really accelerated, because it's totally anonymous.

03:11:05.000 Because sometimes people put watermarks on them, but oftentimes the people put in the watermarks on them, not even the people that have created them.

03:11:11.000 I know that for a fact, because people will put watermarks on my videos, and it's not even me.

03:11:16.000 Not my watermarks.

03:11:18.000 Somebody else puts a watermark on my video and puts it online.

03:11:20.000 And so there's a lot of them like that, like a shitload of them.

03:11:23.000 They'll take clips of this show, and then they put their own watermark on it and put it up on YouTube or put it up wherever on TikTok and what have you.

03:11:30.000 Yeah, it happens all the time.

03:11:31.000 So for sure they're doing that.

03:11:33.000 But the memes are, for the most part, anonymous.

03:11:38.000 And, like, they're hilarious. 0.92

03:11:41.000 Like some of the funniest shit that I see on any given day is a meme that a friend of mine sends me. 0.71

03:11:47.000 So it's like just regular people that are figuring out this new comedy art form that's pure because you don't monetize it. 0.95

03:11:56.000 It's pure.

03:11:57.000 It's just getting sent to people in text messages.

03:12:01.000 It's like the amount of people laughing at memes throughout any given day.

03:12:06.000 See, you don't even know this.

03:12:06.000 Alright, I'm gonna have to hit you with some of these.

03:12:08.000 No, send me one. 0.99

03:12:08.000 Because some of these are fucking great. 0.99

03:12:10.000 There's some bangers out there. 0.99

03:12:11.000 Sarah Connor watching you all become friends with Chad GPT. How funny is that, right?

03:12:15.000 That's great.

03:12:16.000 Yeah, there's a shitload of those, man.

03:12:18.000 They're constantly making them.

03:12:22.000 I send them back and forth to my comedian friends all day long.

03:12:25.000 Here's one.

03:12:26.000 Thank God California banned plastic straws. 1.00

03:12:31.000 See?

03:12:32.000 Buddy, right?

03:12:33.000 That's great.

03:12:33.000 Yeah, that's what you get a lot of, man.

03:12:36.000 Like, all day long I'm getting these fucking things. 0.99

03:12:38.000 It's just amazing. 0.99

03:12:39.000 Here's a good one.

03:12:40.000 How vegans be looking at you while you're finally trying a bite of their fake macaroni and cheese.

03:12:47.000 See?

03:12:49.000 Hilarious!

03:12:49.000 Did you see...

03:12:50.000 What's this guy's name?

03:12:51.000 You know that one, Jamie?

03:12:52.000 That one's a bad one.

03:12:53.000 Piers Morgan?

03:12:55.000 Yes.

03:12:56.000 When Piers Morgan ate the hamburger in front of the vegan, did you see that?

03:13:00.000 No, I didn't.

03:13:01.000 Did they freak out?

03:13:03.000 While they're wearing leather shoes?

03:13:05.000 Here's another good one.

03:13:06.000 Feminists when they hear that people are being drafted for World War III? They're so funny! 1.00

03:13:14.000 There's so many good ones. 1.00

03:13:15.000 Like, fuck climate change, I discovered cock. 1.00

03:13:18.000 Come on, man! 1.00

03:13:19.000 All day long I'm getting these.

03:13:21.000 I'm laughing all day.

03:13:23.000 You know, I'm very appreciative.

03:13:25.000 All the people out there, you meme warriors, keep it up.

03:13:28.000 You're making my day more fun.

03:13:29.000 And I have no idea who made any of those.

03:13:31.000 I'd give them all credit, but they're hilarious. 0.94

03:13:33.000 That's fucking hilarious. 0.97

03:13:34.000 I get them all day long, man. 0.99

03:13:35.000 I'm just constantly getting them.

03:13:37.000 That's great.

03:13:37.000 Send them.

03:13:38.000 I'll send them all your way.

03:13:39.000 That's great.

03:13:39.000 Because I got a shitload of them.

03:13:41.000 Yeah, send them.

03:13:42.000 And I don't even know where they come from.

03:13:44.000 Maybe AI's making them.

03:13:45.000 Maybe Russia's making them. 0.92

03:13:47.000 I don't think the Russians are that funny. 1.00

03:13:49.000 They are that funny.

03:13:50.000 That's part of the Internet Research Agency was making really funny memes during the 2016 election.

03:13:56.000 Really?

03:13:57.000 Yeah, there's a lot of dispute about this because some of the people that have created this research have also partly been responsible for similar disinformation, allegedly.

03:14:09.000 But anyway, there's this one woman who came to my podcast to talk about it, and she'd done a lot of research on it.

03:14:13.000 Her name is Renee DiResta.

03:14:15.000 And she said there's...

03:14:16.000 Hundreds of thousands of them that were created by these Russian troll farms, and some of them were really funny. 0.98

03:14:21.000 They were really funny.

03:14:22.000 And they created these specifically to mock, like, Hillary Clinton, or to mock Donald Trump, or to mock this, or to mock Texas, or to mock the blue states, or mock the red states, and they just would crank these out and throw them online, and just keep everybody... 0.98

03:14:36.000 Make people, like, argue about shit. 0.99

03:14:41.000 You ever think about your reading the comments on your deal, what Instagram or whatever the fuck it is, and the chances that that's some Chinese 23-year-old sitting in a fucking warehouse on his computer? 1.00

03:14:53.000 Yeah, with a whole shitload of them. 1.00

03:14:55.000 Yeah, the Ministry of State or whatever they call it, and he's just sitting there firing off his troll shit. 1.00

03:14:59.000 Highly likely. 0.99

03:15:01.000 Highly likely that a percentage of them are that. 0.99

03:15:03.000 There's certainly people that engage in that stupidity all day long, but there's also, I'll go to, like, I'll see someone that has a ridiculous take on something, I'll go, let me check out that guy's page. 0.99

03:15:14.000 And I'll go to his page, I'll go, oh, you're a fake person. 1.00

03:15:16.000 You're a fake person. 1.00

03:15:17.000 This is like you got an American flag in your fucking Twitter bio. 1.00

03:15:20.000 You're not a real person. 1.00

03:15:21.000 You have two followers and you don't have any posts. 1.00

03:15:23.000 But you're just like shitting on people and you're getting involved in these things. 0.99

03:15:27.000 Like, okay, I see. 0.99

03:15:28.000 All you do is reply to things.

03:15:30.000 And when I look at your reply, they're all very specific the way you do it.

03:15:33.000 Just attack.

03:15:33.000 And a lot of times you can take certain things that people say and you can put them in a search engine and you'll find hundreds of Twitter accounts that have the exact same thing they're saying verbatim.

03:15:42.000 Really?

03:15:42.000 Yeah, and they're all fake accounts.

03:15:44.000 And there's a shitload of them, like inflammatory things about whatever it is, whether it's abortion or the border or whatever it is.

03:15:51.000 You'll see that there's a certain percentage of that argument that's being fueled by people that aren't even real people.

03:15:58.000 So then it's China, Russia, some group, some organization.

03:16:01.000 Yeah, they're trying to...

03:16:02.000 I mean, it's part of the long...

03:16:04.000 It's not the whole plan, but it's part of the plan.

03:16:07.000 That's the long game.

03:16:07.000 Yeah, it's part of the whole long game to keep us out of each other's throats.

03:16:10.000 Yeah.

03:16:10.000 Yeah, they've made fake accounts.

03:16:12.000 And I bet we do it, too.

03:16:14.000 I tried to ask Mike Baker about that.

03:16:15.000 Remember when he skirted that one, Jamie?

03:16:17.000 Yeah.

03:16:17.000 I go, do we do that?

03:16:18.000 He's like, no, I thought...

03:16:20.000 Why would we do that?

03:16:23.000 I would hope we do that.

03:16:25.000 That was my argument when people said...

03:16:28.000 When people were saying that the FBI was involved in the January 6th insurrection, that they were instigating people to break into the Capitol, I'm like, possibly.

03:16:38.000 But also, if you've got an extremist group, if you've got a group that you think might break into the Capitol, and you're the FBI, you're supposed to Get embedded in those people. 0.99

03:16:49.000 You've got to find out what the fuck they're doing. 0.99

03:16:50.000 Ideally, if you find out they're just a bunch of knuckleheads, you're supposed to leave them alone. 1.00

03:16:54.000 You're not supposed to convince them they have to kidnap the governor of Minnesota or Michigan or wherever the fuck it was. 0.99

03:17:00.000 Where was that lady? 1.00

03:17:00.000 I think it was Michigan. 1.00

03:17:01.000 Was it Michigan?

03:17:02.000 Yeah.

03:17:03.000 What is that one?

03:17:04.000 It was like 12 of those dudes were FBI informants.

03:17:06.000 There's like two regular guys. 1.00

03:17:08.000 They were fucked. 0.99

03:17:08.000 Well, that's kind of the DeLorean deal, right? 0.99

03:17:10.000 Like, you can't.

03:17:13.000 John DeLorean when they entrapped him and they're like, hey, if you'll sell this.

03:17:16.000 Oh, they like to do that, too.

03:17:18.000 That's a good one.

03:17:18.000 That's a real good one.

03:17:19.000 Yeah, that kind of entrapment thing, that's when it goes unchecked. 0.85

03:17:24.000 But also, if you do have a legit terror cell, wouldn't it be nice if the FBI fucking embedded themselves in that and stopped that from happening? 0.98

03:17:32.000 It would have been great to have a couple of those in that fucking airplane school, huh? 0.99

03:17:35.000 It would have been great. 0.99

03:17:36.000 It would have been nice.

03:17:37.000 You know, they can't be everywhere.

03:17:39.000 But, you know, there's so many stories of them actually doing that. 0.87

03:17:44.000 Like, convincing people to do shit that they would never have done. 0.89

03:17:47.000 And that's what they said about the Whitmer thing. 1.00

03:17:49.000 That these poor guys, they're just dummies. 0.99

03:17:53.000 You know? 0.99

03:17:53.000 Like, there's a certain percentage of the population of this country. 0.99

03:17:56.000 I forget what the number is.

03:17:57.000 But they're below 85 IQ. There's a certain percentage of people who just have low watt brains and if you get a hold of those dummies and all of a sudden you're their friend and you're convincing them, We gotta stand up for something. 0.71

03:18:10.000 You don't stand up for something, you're not nothing. 0.99

03:18:12.000 Like, yeah, we gotta fucking stand up for something. 1.00

03:18:15.000 That fucking governor, man, that's the problem. 1.00

03:18:17.000 You know, if we kidnapped her, we could fucking turn this whole thing around. 1.00

03:18:20.000 We could take over this fucking country. 1.00

03:18:21.000 We'd do it the right way. 1.00

03:18:23.000 Yeah, probably.

03:18:24.000 So, listen, we're gonna meet at the docks at 9 o'clock.

03:18:27.000 We are brothers.

03:18:28.000 We are brotherhood in this fight.

03:18:30.000 Okay, 9 o'clock.

03:18:31.000 And then you go there like, I just wanted a friend!

03:18:35.000 I just wanted a friend! 0.98

03:18:36.000 It's like you're doing fucking 10 years in Sing Sing. 0.99

03:18:39.000 Woo! 0.99

03:18:40.000 That's not good.

03:18:42.000 Hey guys, that's the wrong way to do it.

03:18:44.000 But when you do it the right way and you infiltrate terror organizations, I know that's real too.

03:18:50.000 Like you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but gotta be some oversight on this. 0.72

03:18:54.000 You can't just allow the same sort of unchecked shit that goes on with everything to go on with that. 0.80

03:18:59.000 You gotta wonder how much, How many 9-11s we don't even know about that they averted? 0.97

03:19:09.000 Maybe.

03:19:09.000 It's possible.

03:19:10.000 I'm sure they've done a lot of good.

03:19:12.000 I have no doubt.

03:19:13.000 I mean, that was 20... 1.00

03:19:15.000 Fuck, was that 22 years ago now? 1.00

03:19:17.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

03:19:18.000 Isn't that crazy?

03:19:19.000 It is crazy. 0.96

03:19:20.000 And there's no way that in the two decades since then, because shit ain't got better, relations haven't got better, there's no way that there haven't been any number of things that those guys have had to thwart that they just won't tell us about, can't tell us, because it'll give away the fact that they're inside. 0.93

03:19:36.000 That's the argument for things like the Patriot Act and for the NSA's mass-scale surveillance of the population. 0.98

03:19:45.000 You want to be able to leave everybody alone, but you want to be able to point out when some shit is about to go down. 0.97

03:19:51.000 And this is really the only other way. 1.00

03:19:53.000 If they're communicating through media, we've got to be able to tap into this shit. 0.98

03:19:55.000 We'll just use keywords and find people and get them. 0.98

03:19:59.000 I'm sure that those guys have red-flagged me.

03:20:02.000 85 times.

03:20:03.000 What have you been Googling?

03:20:05.000 What I'm writing, think about it.

03:20:07.000 Read Mayor of Kingstown.

03:20:08.000 Look at Yellowstone.

03:20:10.000 Look at Lioness. 1.00

03:20:11.000 Look at Sicario. 0.99

03:20:12.000 Like the shit I'm looking up. 1.00

03:20:13.000 Drug drug. 1.00

03:20:14.000 Terrorist this. 0.99

03:20:15.000 And they've got to go, oh, we've got a humdinger over here in freaking Texas. 0.94

03:20:19.000 And then they pull up.

03:20:20.000 They're like, no, it's that guy.

03:20:21.000 That's a really good point.

03:20:22.000 It's that guy.

03:20:23.000 This will be a plot in something here in two years you just watch. 0.97

03:20:26.000 Sicario was fucking awesome.

03:20:30.000 How much is involved in research with that? 0.57

03:20:32.000 Like, how do you do research for something like Sicario?

03:20:35.000 I did a lot of research for Sicario.

03:20:37.000 How did you...

03:20:37.000 I was able to talk to some people on the inside of different things.

03:20:40.000 Whoa.

03:20:42.000 Yeah.

03:20:43.000 Whoa.

03:20:44.000 That must be heavy.

03:20:47.000 Yeah.

03:20:48.000 And to be honest, of a lot of the things that I uncovered, I didn't uncover them, but they were shown to me.

03:20:59.000 Sicario is the PG version of what it could have been. 0.98

03:21:01.000 Holy shit. 0.99

03:21:03.000 As barbaric as that is. 1.00

03:21:05.000 And how we were shielded from them.

03:21:07.000 You know, the drug war, and that was really, that was 2010, 2011, the drug war that it's based on.

03:21:14.000 More people died in five years around that than died in Vietnam. 0.99

03:21:18.000 Holy shit. 1.00

03:21:23.000 Holy shit. 1.00

03:21:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:21:26.000 That's the wildest one.

03:21:28.000 The wildest one that we're dealing with, like when you talk about major problems that this country has.

03:21:33.000 Sure, we have immigration problems.

03:21:35.000 Sure, we got a lot of problems.

03:21:36.000 One of the wildest ones is the amount of people that die from fentanyl overdoses every year.

03:21:43.000 So, doing research, I discovered...

03:21:47.000 I was trying to figure out what are the...

03:21:49.000 Just to have a perspective on the scale of...

03:21:55.000 Revenue-generating industries, and it started with oil.

03:21:59.000 How much money do oil companies make? 0.93

03:22:03.000 And if you look at the top 10 revenue-generating industries, it's up there at like 5 or 6 or 7 or 8, somewhere.

03:22:11.000 It's not as high as I thought it would be.

03:22:14.000 Pharmaceuticals sit there at like $3.2 trillion a year in revenue.

03:22:20.000 Illegal drugs are estimated at $3.3 trillion. 1.00

03:22:25.000 And we talk about Big Pharma as this fucking monster. 0.99

03:22:29.000 Think about the fact that illegal drug trade is bigger than Big Pharma. 1.00

03:22:33.000 Holy shit. 1.00

03:22:37.000 Wow. 1.00

03:22:38.000 I had no idea.

03:22:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:22:40.000 Holy shit. 1.00

03:22:45.000 And all funded because it's illegal. 0.99

03:22:47.000 But, obviously, there's a demand for it.

03:22:50.000 And there's no way to know.

03:22:51.000 There's no way.

03:22:51.000 It's because it's illegal.

03:22:52.000 Right.

03:22:53.000 Those are estimates.

03:22:54.000 I don't know how they make the estimates, but those are the estimates.

03:22:57.000 Here's a question. 0.99

03:22:58.000 If you're the president of the world, and if you have this fucking magic wand... 0.99

03:23:03.000 Do you even want drugs to be legal? 0.99

03:23:05.000 What do you want to do?

03:23:06.000 Do you want to go after the people that are making the drugs and just say it's a war on America, on American youth, because 100,000 people die every year and we need to involve the military and go after the cartels? 0.97

03:23:18.000 Or do you say, we need to wake up to the fact that people are going to take these fucking things no matter what?

03:23:24.000 So we need to regulate them, make them legal, and make them pure, and also give people some sort of an understanding of what the correct dose is, tell them not to do it, offer counseling, have rehab centers, have all that funded by the taxes that you're going to make from selling these things legally, 0.86

03:23:40.000 but allow people to sell it legally.

03:23:42.000 Because you're either boosting up the pharmaceutical drug companies, which are pretty gangster, Or you're boosting up the real gangsters.

03:23:49.000 I would argue, and I don't have an answer.

03:23:52.000 Look, I've written movies about this. 0.99

03:23:54.000 I don't have the fucking answer. 0.98

03:23:56.000 But if you look at, and he can pull it up right now, overdose deaths from prescription medication. 0.99

03:24:05.000 OxyContin, all these various things.

03:24:08.000 And that's exactly what you're saying.

03:24:11.000 That is a regulated, heavy narcotic, regulated, heavily regulated, you know, it's a class A or one, whatever they call it, schedule one.

03:24:20.000 You write that prescription as a doctor.

03:24:23.000 Somebody's gonna come knocking and go, eh, what was this for exactly?

03:24:26.000 Like, you write a ton of them. 0.85

03:24:28.000 You better be a frickin' orthopedic surgeon. 0.93

03:24:30.000 Especially today. 0.94

03:24:31.000 Yeah.

03:24:31.000 And the number of deaths from prescription overdoses, it's pretty substantially high.

03:24:37.000 I think it would be a failure.

03:24:39.000 I think...

03:24:40.000 I don't think it would work.

03:24:41.000 I don't know what we do.

03:24:43.000 I think that... 0.97

03:24:45.000 And I talked about it in Sicario, where he says, look, until we can figure out a way to convince 20% of the population not to smoke and snort this shit, a measure of control is the best we can hope for. 0.58

03:24:59.000 Yeah, if you made it legal, for sure there would be people, this is the argument against it, if you made it legal for sure there would be people that try it, that wouldn't ordinarily try it, but they try it because it's legal. 0.57

03:25:09.000 Yeah.

03:25:10.000 Like when Elon was on my show and he smoked weed with me, one of the things he said, oh, it is legal, huh?

03:25:14.000 Yeah, it's legal here, bro.

03:25:16.000 We smoked weed together.

03:25:17.000 But he said it's legal.

03:25:19.000 And so he felt like he could do it.

03:25:20.000 Like, I'll try it.

03:25:21.000 How many kids would do heroin if it became legal?

03:25:25.000 How many kids would do coke?

03:25:26.000 How many impressionable people that wouldn't do something illegal will now do something because it is legal?

03:25:32.000 And how many generations does it take before we figure out how to stop that from happening?

03:25:35.000 I guess the question would be, could they make a heroin light?

03:25:39.000 Like a Miller Lite.

03:25:41.000 Like a cocaine light.

03:25:42.000 Because if you've ever watched one of those shows about how they make cocaine, you're never doing cocaine.

03:25:47.000 Well, we had Mariana Van Zeller, who has that show. 1.00

03:25:52.000 What is that show called?

03:25:54.000 Trafficked.

03:25:54.000 Excuse me?

03:25:55.000 Trafficked.

03:25:56.000 And she was embedded in this drug-producing lab in, was it Costa Rica?

03:26:05.000 Yeah.

03:26:06.000 Where was it?

03:26:07.000 Columbia?

03:26:08.000 I think it was Columbia.

03:26:09.000 Peru or Columbia.

03:26:10.000 She was in there with these people while they're making cocaine and they let her document everything.

03:26:16.000 And she even walked out with them when they were hiking it out as mules on their back.

03:26:21.000 She took the trek with them.

03:26:23.000 She retraces one of the world's most...

03:26:25.000 Yeah, Peruvian jungles to the Colombian coastline.

03:26:28.000 To the streets of Miami.

03:26:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:26:31.000 It's a crazy episode, man, because that lady has fucking courage. 1.00

03:26:34.000 They're bleaching those leaves with diesel and freaking cow piss. 1.00

03:26:37.000 Oh, it's horrible. 0.99

03:26:38.000 They have this vat and they're pouring these chemicals in there and they're taking all the fucking coke out of it. 0.99

03:26:43.000 And then they're packing it up. 0.99

03:26:44.000 This pure cocaine.

03:26:46.000 It's so pure.

03:26:47.000 It's really good for you.

03:26:48.000 And they're taking that pure cocaine. 0.99

03:26:49.000 But don't worry, you can trust that middleman so not put a little fentanyl in there just to cut it a little bit with some fucking flour. 0.98

03:26:55.000 Now that's the argument for it being legal and hard to get. 0.94

03:26:58.000 That if it was legal and you really went after the people that are making it illegally and you test everything, you would stop all the fentanyl overdoses at least.

03:27:06.000 But you're not going to stop all the overdoses.

03:27:09.000 You know, for sure, people just overdose on regular coke.

03:27:12.000 They definitely die on regular heroin.

03:27:14.000 They definitely have.

03:27:15.000 It's just, would they die as often?

03:27:18.000 Would it be as bad?

03:27:19.000 And would you have to deal with propping up this illegal drug regime, which is the scary part.

03:27:26.000 Is that right next door, we could just walk over there.

03:27:28.000 You could literally walk over.

03:27:30.000 They're walking over here.

03:27:31.000 We could walk over there, too.

03:27:32.000 You could walk over to a place that's run by drug cartels.

03:27:35.000 Yeah.

03:27:37.000 You know, you have to look at the desire.

03:27:40.000 What is the...

03:27:41.000 And obviously a lot of it's going to...

03:27:45.000 If you've worked really hard and you've built up this and you've got a family and you've got a kid in college and someone goes, hey, you want to go over to this new bar that got cocaine?

03:27:54.000 You're probably going to go, eh, you know what?

03:27:55.000 I don't.

03:27:56.000 I've got a lot to lose.

03:27:57.000 That sounds sketchy.

03:27:58.000 Yeah, I don't think I want to do that. 1.00

03:28:00.000 But if you've grown up in this fucking shitty family and your father's abusive and mom's an alcoholic and she's a drug abuser and you feel like you have no hope, then you're going to turn to that. 0.99

03:28:09.000 So it preys on the weakest, the most vulnerable of our society. 1.00

03:28:13.000 I wonder if if there's not a way I would want to try I would want to try like how do we and I don't want to sound How do we just lock this place down long enough that we freaking keep the drugs out?

03:28:27.000 I don't think we can at this point.

03:28:29.000 I don't think we can either.

03:28:29.000 I think they're so sophisticated on the ways they get it in.

03:28:32.000 And there's enough people corrupt on the side that let it in.

03:28:34.000 I don't think you could ever do it.

03:28:36.000 And it's a $3.3 trillion a year business.

03:28:39.000 So they've figured out things. 0.98

03:28:42.000 There's probably some fucking highway under New Mexico that comes up in a warehouse and they're trucking this shit out and they've paid off everybody and It's a $3.3 trillion business. 0.99

03:28:51.000 The corruption is undeniable. 0.99

03:28:52.000 There's always going to be corruption.

03:28:54.000 One of the things that Mariana Van Zeller found out, one of the things she investigated is cops that are corrupt in Los Angeles taking confiscated weapons and then driving them into Mexico and selling them to the cartels.

03:29:10.000 Because you can just get in.

03:29:11.000 They don't check you when you're coming in.

03:29:13.000 They check you when you're leaving.

03:29:14.000 So if you want to bring coke...

03:29:16.000 Bring whatever you want.

03:29:16.000 Yeah.

03:29:17.000 But when you want to go in, like, come on in.

03:29:19.000 So they're going in with these confiscated weapons that they've gotten from, you know, gangs and what have you. 1.00

03:29:25.000 And they got a trunk full of this shit. 0.99

03:29:27.000 They drive it into Mexico and sell it. 1.00

03:29:29.000 I've always felt, if you think about it, probably the two public service jobs that are the most important Teacher, police officer.

03:29:41.000 Yep.

03:29:41.000 How are those not $250,000 a year paying jobs?

03:29:44.000 Right.

03:29:45.000 How are they not?

03:29:46.000 Difficult to get.

03:29:46.000 By the way, there's great police officers out there.

03:29:48.000 There's great teachers out there.

03:29:49.000 But there's a large portion that are not because, and you're going to see it in LA now, you defund the police, we do this.

03:29:57.000 Now you don't have enough cops, so now you've got to do what you did with the rampart.

03:30:00.000 Lower your standards to get enough bodies in there, and then all of a sudden...

03:30:03.000 Well, what I was telling you earlier, they're using illegal immigrants. 1.00

03:30:07.000 They're using non-citizens to be police officers in Los Angeles now. 0.55

03:30:12.000 Google that, Jamie.

03:30:14.000 Without guns, though.

03:30:16.000 At least for now.

03:30:17.000 They can't have guns?

03:30:18.000 Or they can't have guns at home?

03:30:20.000 They can't have guns on them?

03:30:21.000 Right.

03:30:22.000 For now.

03:30:23.000 But are they trying to pass it so they can't have guns?

03:30:25.000 But that's my point.

03:30:25.000 Wouldn't you want...

03:30:27.000 You know, look, if you're going to be in the FBI... And there's a lot of politicization of the FBI right now.

03:30:34.000 But what they're not doing is getting in a shit ton of shootings.

03:30:38.000 And if they are, we're not hearing about them.

03:30:41.000 Those guys and those men and women have college degrees.

03:30:44.000 A lot of them have law degrees.

03:30:46.000 They're going to go through a year at the farm before they start out somewhere very small, have all these different training regiments before they're running around busting down doors.

03:30:56.000 Okay, here it is.

03:30:57.000 LAPD moves to accommodate new DACA officers who can't personally own guns.

03:31:02.000 Can't personally own guns.

03:31:04.000 But I don't know if that means that they can't carry guns on the job.

03:31:09.000 Possess their department-issued firearms while off duty.

03:31:14.000 So while on duty, they are armed.

03:31:20.000 So you could be an illegal alien who comes into this country and then no one wants to be a cop, so you could be a cop and they'll give you a gun. 0.78

03:31:28.000 And so you could be a citizen of America getting arrested by someone who is not a citizen of America in America at gunpoint.

03:31:36.000 But the DACA recipients, is that weird?

03:31:39.000 That's an interesting...

03:31:40.000 Well, that just means the people that graduate the academy.

03:31:43.000 That's what it means, right?

03:31:44.000 No, no, no.

03:31:45.000 Is that the dreamers?

03:31:46.000 Yeah.

03:31:47.000 So what that would mean is they were brought in as a child.

03:31:50.000 Is that what it means?

03:31:50.000 Yeah, brought in as a child, and I believe Obama gave him amnesty at one point.

03:31:55.000 I don't know that it was ever rescinded.

03:31:56.000 So it's at a certain age?

03:31:58.000 Deferred action of childhood arrivals.

03:31:59.000 Yeah.

03:32:00.000 Okay, so that's people that came here as a child, their parents illegally immigrated here, but they've been here their whole life. 0.98

03:32:08.000 Why not just make them fucking citizens then? 0.84

03:32:11.000 George W. Bush actually initiated legislation for amnesty that involves back taxes and some things, but would give people, like all the immigrants, a green card. 0.99

03:32:28.000 There was a bunch of pushback saying, well, one side going, now we want a path to citizenship. 0.98

03:32:34.000 And I think the Democrats were like, whoa, you're not going to take all our fucking Latin vote. 0.99

03:32:39.000 Hell no. 0.99

03:32:40.000 You can't do that.

03:32:40.000 So it got squashed.

03:32:41.000 But there was an attempt to legitimize all these people that had moved here illegally, but had created a home and were working and contributing members of society.

03:32:52.000 And they killed it because it didn't go far enough for some.

03:32:57.000 And politically, it just got squashed.

03:32:59.000 That's unfortunate, because if you can get to the point where you can tell those people they can be police officers and they can carry guns on duty, which Colorado did there as well, that's what it said.

03:33:07.000 Make them citizens.

03:33:09.000 It seems like they're good people.

03:33:10.000 They're doing a good job.

03:33:11.000 They're here.

03:33:11.000 They're paying taxes.

03:33:12.000 They're living.

03:33:12.000 They're part of society.

03:33:13.000 They want to be police officers.

03:33:15.000 Why would we assume they're bad?

03:33:17.000 The problem is that they're not citizens.

03:33:19.000 Well, why is it such a difficult path to citizenship for someone who was born somewhere else but came over here as a child and doesn't... 0.95

03:33:27.000 I'm assuming if you're a cop you don't have a criminal record.

03:33:30.000 I'm assuming, right?

03:33:32.000 California?

03:33:32.000 I don't know.

03:33:33.000 Yeah, California might help you.

03:33:35.000 Yeah.

03:33:36.000 I don't know.

03:33:37.000 It's a wild world.

03:33:39.000 It is.

03:33:42.000 Weirder than any other time.

03:33:43.000 I'm sure every generation thinks that they're at the precipice of disaster, but certainly World War II felt that way, and I know it felt that way in the 50s with the Cold War.

03:33:53.000 For sure.

03:33:53.000 It felt that way in the 80s.

03:33:55.000 It sure did.

03:33:56.000 Yeah.

03:33:56.000 When we were kids, it felt like at any moment we could have a nuclear war with Russia.

03:34:01.000 I don't think you've seen the internal divide in this nation since the late teens, early 20s.

03:34:06.000 I agree. 0.98

03:34:07.000 You know, when you had a big communist push then, and then the time before that, we had a fucking civil war. 0.76

03:34:13.000 And I think a lot of that is accentuated by what we were talking about earlier with the social media use and the subversion of our educational institutions.

03:34:20.000 That's a big part of why we have this divide.

03:34:23.000 And I think one thing that can combat that is a rational discourse that's appealing to people.

03:34:31.000 And the people like you and other people that have these opinions, they say them out loud and people listen and they go, you know what?

03:34:38.000 He's right.

03:34:39.000 Like, this is crazy.

03:34:40.000 Like, this divide is crazy.

03:34:42.000 And what is accentuating this divide? 1.00

03:34:44.000 Engaging in these fucking stupid arguments online that might not even be with real people? 1.00

03:34:48.000 It might actually be with AI from China? 1.00

03:34:51.000 Like, what are we doing?

03:34:52.000 We just have to...

03:34:54.000 Someone's got to step up and go, look, the minutia of the argument is irrelevant.

03:35:00.000 In the greater picture.

03:35:02.000 Obviously, it's very important to the people stuck in it. 0.98

03:35:05.000 And I don't give a fuck if it's gender-neutral bathrooms or climate change or whatever. 0.99

03:35:09.000 Whatever it is. 0.97

03:35:10.000 Everyone has to first admit, we all have a right to think different.

03:35:14.000 And it's not violent when I disagree with you.

03:35:17.000 It's not an irrational fear of you when I disagree.

03:35:20.000 Or vice versa.

03:35:22.000 But until we can respectfully disagree and go, hey, you have your thoughts and I have my thoughts.

03:35:28.000 How do we coexist?

03:35:29.000 Right.

03:35:29.000 But right now, coexisting's off the table.

03:35:31.000 Right.

03:35:32.000 And that's the thing that has to get back on the table.

03:35:33.000 Well, and people are very upset about it.

03:35:35.000 That's why songs like that, Rich Man from Richmond, that's why it hits like that.

03:35:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:35:39.000 Because people are like, yeah, what the fuck? 1.00

03:35:42.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00

03:35:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:35:45.000 And they want it to be better. 1.00

03:35:46.000 I mean, most people don't want to be involved in all this stupidity. 1.00

03:35:49.000 They just want to live a good life and have fun before the aliens turn us into fucking vegetables. 1.00

03:35:56.000 I didn't know that was happening until now. 1.00

03:35:58.000 That's what I think.

03:35:59.000 That's what I think.

03:36:00.000 Anyway, I think we just did like four hours.

03:36:02.000 How long have you been on?

03:36:05.000 Three and a half hours, dude. 1.00

03:36:07.000 Fuck. 1.00

03:36:07.000 Went like that. 1.00

03:36:08.000 Yeah.

03:36:09.000 But listen, it's been really fun.

03:36:11.000 I really appreciate you.

03:36:12.000 Love your work. 0.93

03:36:12.000 You're a fucking awesome dude. 0.93

03:36:13.000 Likewise, man. 0.99

03:36:14.000 Everything you've done has just been some of my favorite shit ever on television. 0.56

03:36:18.000 For sure, 1883 is one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life. 0.99

03:36:22.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.98

03:36:23.000 Thank you, bro. 0.97

03:36:24.000 Appreciate you.

03:36:24.000 Everybody, go watch it.

03:36:25.000 It's awesome.

03:36:27.000 And whatever else you got going on, let me know.

03:36:29.000 I'll do it.

03:36:30.000 I'll blast it out there. 0.53

03:36:31.000 Hell yeah.

03:36:32.000 Thank you.

03:36:32.000 Thank you, brother.

03:36:33.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 04, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2083 - Taylor Sheridan

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