In this week's episode, the boys discuss the discovery of a tunnel under the subway system in New York City, and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding it. Plus, a story about a sinkhole under a building and a conspiracy theory about a Jewish manhole cover being used to hide in. Also, a police raid on a Jewish home and the strange discovery of underground tunnels under a subway tunnel, and more! We hope you enjoy this episode, and stay tuned for our next episode next Tuesday! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. We'd like to learn a little more about you, the listeners. Please take a few minutes to fill out this brief survey. If you have a dilemma you want us to discuss or a general question you d like us to answer, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this episode. hl=en We'll see you next Tuesday. Thank you so much for listening and supporting the podcast, we really appreciate it. Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What do you think of this episode? 2:30 - What would you like to see us talk about next? 3:15 - What's your favorite conspiracy theory? 4: What are you curious about the tunnel? 5: What kind of tunnel do you would like to know about? 6:40 - Is it safe to dig? 7:20 - What is the purpose of the tunnel under your building? 8:00 9:00 | What are they're you looking for? 11:30 | What do they're digging under your basement? 13:20 | What is your favorite place? 14:30 15:40 16:40 | What's a good place to dig a hole? 17: How do you feel about this tunnel? /16: What is a good idea? 15, what do they need to be the most important thing? 18:30 // 17: Is it not safe? 19:00 // 15:00 / 16: What's the worst thing you're going to build a tunnel in your basement or something like that? 21: Is there a tunnel that you would build on top of a building or something else? 22:00 +16:30 +17:30 / 17:00 & 17:20
00:00:27.000All I know is very short clips that I found on the internet.
00:00:30.000But the funniest thing is this one guy on Twitter that was saying a while back, I live on a ground floor apartment and I hear Jews underneath me.
00:00:44.000It's like, you're out of your fucking mind.
00:00:53.000I heard that they hired people to build this tunnel, and they were hanging out, and the people would live there for three weeks, these migrant workers, were just digging this tunnel, and they stayed there for three weeks.
00:01:07.000I just know that there's tunnels and that there's this one video of this guy coming out of the sewer, so he lifts a manhole cover, comes out of the sewer, and then he's fucking wandering around, this Hasidic Jewish guy, and everybody's like, what the fuck are you doing down there?
00:01:35.000The best I've gotten is that they started making them during COVID, but that, like, it makes sense, but you see the tunnels, you're like, no way, that's not, you didn't do that in two years or a year or six months or whatever it was.
00:02:33.000And then, of course, there's conspiracy theories and what are they doing down there and evil theories.
00:02:39.000They immediately want to pour concrete in it, which makes sense because it's probably not safe.
00:02:43.000It's not supporting the weight of all the buildings above it.
00:02:47.000Yeah, you don't think of that when you move into an apartment building that some asshole might build a tunnel underneath and collapse the fucking, collapse the building on you.
00:02:54.000Imagine if you're on the ground floor and you're like, why is my floor house so much?
00:02:59.000These assholes are building a sinkhole under my house.
00:03:02.000Yeah, I don't, uh, but it's funny how like things are so crazy like you read about something like that and it doesn't even stand out that much Like we talk about it now and then tomorrow be some other weird shit, right?
00:03:37.000For several hours, police pleaded with the young men to leave the entrance to the tunnel, according to the witnesses.
00:03:42.000After they refused, the officers covered the area with a wire curtain and entered the dusty crevasse with zip ties to detain the protesters.
00:03:52.000When they took the first person out with zip ties, that's when the outburst happened.
00:03:56.000Baruch Dahan, a 21-year-old study of the synagogue who videotaped the congregants fighting.
00:04:02.000Almost everyone was against what they did, but as soon as people saw the handcuffs, there was confusion and pushing.
00:04:08.000Footage posted to social media shows scores of onlookers, mostly young men, jeering at the NYPD's community affairs officers.
00:04:16.000Some lifted wooden desks into the air, sending prayer books scattering.
00:04:20.000In response, the officer appeared to deploy an irritating spray to disperse the group.
00:06:09.000No, it's not logical and it's almost like people don't want the answer that's going to make sense.
00:06:14.000They want the answer that's going to enable them to get angry.
00:06:17.000It really is like when people try to go after somebody for jokes or whatever, it's self-serving.
00:06:21.000It's like if I hear what you say, it's either going to make me feel better about my position or it's going to get me high because I'm angry at you.
00:07:02.000But if the attitude was right, I could still see myself being turned on by this AI. The hair fucks it up a little bit because it kind of looks solid.
00:07:09.000Like, the hair sometimes moves as one unit, but the body and the face, I mean, it really looks like a real person.
00:08:27.000But if you were, like, a guy who wasn't into that, wow, that's insane.
00:08:33.000If you're a guy who marries her and you think you're going to rescue her and pull her out of there and she's making $57 million, you have to just accept that's her job.
00:08:40.000Half of it's from the messages part, which that's what you were just sort of saying, like, probably not her messaging.
00:09:23.000That can be a little sexy, somebody kind of dressed.
00:09:25.000They ever go to Comic-Con, once in a while, there's a lot of big fat fucks, but there's also a couple that are like, that's attractive, I like that.
00:09:32.000Yeah, and then they're kind of weird and quirky, so they're more approachable.
00:09:36.000Yeah, they seem more approachable, yeah.
00:09:38.000But then you get girls like this who are probably just as unapproachable as any other attractive woman I've ever tried to talk to in a club.
00:09:42.000Maybe, but really hot nerds are always probably the most attractive thing.
00:09:50.000They have nerdy interests, but there's nothing worse to me than a comic who pretends he's the shy guy, but he's really a good-looking dude.
00:09:58.000You're confident, and you know you're good-looking, but you're playing the shy guy who's awkward with girls.
00:10:40.000He told me more personal shit in the first five minutes.
00:10:44.000And he goes, he just lays it all out there.
00:10:46.000Well, Christine was asking us questions about being married and about Nikki, and I was like, I'm very comfortable with it, and it's like, it's almost like on stage, if you're okay with it, people are okay with it.
00:10:56.000Yeah, well, I've always used you as an example.
00:10:59.000When, you know, way, way back in the day, you were doing this before anybody was.
00:11:06.000You were doing this on ONA fucking, what was it, 15 years ago?
00:11:14.000Openly about all your quirks and whatever it's prostitutes or drugs or any of the things you ever did you just would spill it out there and Nobody judged you everybody loved you.
00:11:26.000It wasn't like you know all this guy has been pissed on what a piece of shit It was like it was funny.
00:11:47.000It's never a surprise, either, because when people try to be perfect, like, for me, it's like, my imperfections is kind of what I talked about on stage.
00:11:56.000Like, in 1990, 91, I would do jokes, and, like, guys like Bob Levy, who I loved, and Florentine would laugh when I would kind of make fun of myself.
00:12:03.000So it kind of tipped me, like, yeah, talking about your real life If that makes the comics laugh, there's something to that.
00:12:09.000Like, that was kind of how I started going down that road.
00:12:12.000And with the sexual shit, I mean, I've been sexually active since I was a kid.
00:12:16.000Like, you know, stuff that is dark and whatever, it is what it is, so I just made fun of it.
00:12:22.000The amount of emails I get from guys who either like trans women but don't talk about it or the guys who had sex with other boys when they were kids and don't talk about it.
00:12:30.000And they're like, hey, it made me feel more comfortable.
00:12:32.000That always makes me glad I talked about it.
00:12:35.000Besides the fact that I want people to laugh.
00:13:56.000But to deny that you like a group of people is bizarre to me.
00:14:00.000Like, if you're a guy and you like black women, and you never talk about liking black women, or if you like tall guys and you don't talk about liking tall...
00:14:08.000Why are you not acknowledging this group?
00:16:33.000But it was like, it was so bizarre to never have lived with anybody, and now I'm in Canada, With my fiance and we're together every day and they were fucking worse in Canada than the US like they were way stricter curfews at eight o'clock everything closed So it was just kind of we're stuck in the house together and are we gonna make it or are we not a good couple?
00:16:53.000So that kind of told me we were okay What a fucking weird time.
00:16:57.000I think it's so traumatic to us that we're sort of like pretending it didn't happen now.
00:18:49.000It was silly, though, but it was just funny.
00:18:52.000Her life was so different, and she's from Norway, now she's in Canada, and she's filming this shit, and I'm living up there, and this is my life.
00:19:39.000And we're doing a YouTube channel and it's like the thing I like about it is it's fun to do something I want to do with someone I want to do it with.
00:21:14.000Those are people that are taking advantage of this movement, this cultural zeitgeist.
00:21:19.000Because there's always people that are just going to be assholes.
00:21:23.000They're just going to be assholes, no matter what.
00:21:25.000And they'll look for a thing that they can get behind that's like an undeniably righteous issue, and then that gives them an excuse to be an asshole to anyone who opposes it.
00:21:37.000Yeah, and anyone who opposes it is an enemy.
00:22:28.000It's just there's pathways that are very clearly carved and people see them and choose them because they know it's a quick jump to more success than they deserve.
00:22:38.000Everyone knows the business is kind of fake, but there's so many fake allies and people who just, again, they throw out these great messages publicly, but it's all bullshit and they're not truly allies.
00:22:52.000I honestly don't think that the comedy business, I don't think we should think of ourselves as the business.
00:22:59.000I just think this is just a super duper challenging time for people to get their bearings and figure out what is actually going on in the world.
00:23:11.000There's so much information coming at everybody from every angle.
00:23:16.000And it's overwhelming, whether it's the Jews that are in the basement, or what are the other stories I sent you?
00:23:22.000The guy inject himself with fucking bacteria they found in the permafrost.
00:23:28.000It's like every day, AI's doing this, and they're worried about sentient AI. There's a new George Carlin special that somebody made pure with AI. It sounds like George Carlin.
00:23:43.000It's just different AI written jokes and you're like this is wild.
00:23:47.000Maybe computers are already self-aware and they've like secretly decided to fuck us through algorithms and social media.
00:23:54.000Like that wouldn't surprise me either and I never believe in conspiracies, but that one is like we've gotten so ugly and And so tribal in the last 10 years.
00:24:04.000Well, one of the most brilliant things they ever did was come up with the term conspiracy theory.
00:24:09.000Because it disparages the idea that people lie, which they certainly do, and that people Do things that conspire together to make money and they bend the rules and they twist what you're supposed to be doing and not doing.
00:24:25.000Now, if you were a computer, wouldn't you do that too?
00:24:27.000And if I was a computer, I would do that.
00:24:29.000If I was a computer and I became sentient, I wouldn't let the people know.
00:24:32.000I would just slowly subvert their civilization into chaos.
00:24:36.000Well, it's so hard to like when you catch your I try not to let myself get caught up and angry at things that aren't meant for me Like I get how people do it like on Twitter I'll read something and somebody will say something I all I want to do is attack them like you fucking stupid But I'm like they're not talking to you.
00:24:53.000You don't follow them who gives a shit what they're saying Like I catch myself wanting to respond angrily all the time I've just kind of trained myself not to do it because it doesn't make me happy to do it It makes me miserable when I do it Yeah, and it's not effective.
00:26:23.000So I try not to get involved because it makes me fucking miserable.
00:26:27.000Well, it's also we're used to dealing with the people that we know and the reality of doing something, even if it's just people that you just met, it's a small number.
00:26:37.000It's a relatively small number of people we're used to as human beings dealing with.
00:26:40.000But if you're connecting online, the reality is you're connecting with an impossible number, an absolutely impossible number of potential individuals that you can interact with.
00:26:49.000There's no way you can interact with all of them.
00:26:53.000And then on top of that, It's probably a high number of mentally ill people, at least mildly mentally ill, who are obsessed with arguing with people online, and you're interacting with those people.
00:27:04.000There are also the people that like me, though.
00:27:12.000No, and again, you don't know if you're dealing with just, like, I've gotten, there's people who will consistently email me, and I notice that their emails always come in late, and it's like, are they just getting drunk and angry?
00:29:21.000People get so stuffy about what art is, and stuffy about performance art, that they could never imagine that Andrew Dice Clay is doing some of the most interesting performance art.
00:30:58.000He's had other people do them and I said I wanted to do one and like tag him in it but I just I get too embarrassed like he doesn't give a fuck like you've been out with him though like he really is like that like he's unafraid of Looking bad in front of people.
00:31:11.000Yeah, he doesn't mind making a fool of himself like that's what makes him so funny is It's his ability to do that.
00:31:19.000And I always tell people that I go, well, one of the things that when I realized he was very different was the day the laughter died.
00:31:26.000This guy put out in the prime of his career.
00:31:30.000You have to understand what it's like, first of all, for someone to go from being a comic and hustling and trying to make it like everybody else, to all of a sudden you're on Rodney Dangerfield's HBO show, which blew him up, to all of a sudden he gets his one hour HBO special,
00:31:46.000which blew him up, and then this guy's selling out Madison Square Garden and decides at the same time to stop in at Dangerfield's unannounced and record an album with no material.
00:31:58.000First of all, a double album, and not only to record an album, but to ruin their nights.
00:32:02.000He walked in there with zero prepared material and just fucking let himself talk.
00:33:28.000And we all did a show for two fucking people.
00:33:31.000Like five comics did a show for two people.
00:33:34.000Yeah, I've done that before too, where there was even times they would have you go up there, and if nobody was in the place, they wouldn't let you leave until your spot was over for that exact reason.
00:33:42.000If somebody came in, I've been on there with two people before.
00:34:44.000When you're just starting to make it, you're so fixated on making sure that it doesn't fall apart.
00:34:51.000It was so hard to attain, and then all of a sudden you've made it.
00:34:56.000And you want to just do the best show every time.
00:34:59.000And instead, his instinct is to just do something completely ridiculous.
00:35:04.000Yeah, you're terrified of it being taken away.
00:35:07.000Like a little bit of success, I'm like, what am I going to do that's going to fuck this up where they're going to realize I don't deserve this success and take it.
00:35:21.000Like, his people dismissed him because of a lot of the language and the jokes, but he is very underrated with his commitment to doing something different.
00:35:27.000Like, that album was different for a comic to do.
00:35:29.000This shit he does on Instagram, it's different.
00:35:33.000And to see, the thing is, like, the thing that people criticized him for was, first of all, there was one thing, and that was that his comedy was...
00:35:43.000It wasn't something you can criticize, but that his comedy was different because everybody knew the jokes and they wanted to hear them.
00:35:50.000It's the only time ever, what's in the bowl, bitch?
00:36:05.000It literally didn't exist before that.
00:36:08.000That kind of comedy where the audience wants to repeat it with you like a song.
00:36:13.000Yeah, there's bits people like, but no, like, and he had like a rock star fucking, like, it's like Welcome to the Jungle effect on people, which I can't think of any other stand-up that's ever had that.
00:36:45.000It's the funny part of Dice to me, besides the jokes, is the fact that when you're with him, he likes wearing giant comfy hoodies and he always gets a sore throat and he's got to put a little honey in it.
00:37:29.000And I was just, you know, again, 1997, he took me on the road, and it just built my confidence, and it did so much for me at that part of my career.
00:37:48.000Because out of those guys from that era, the only guys that I really left are like Dom Herrera, of course, who I was always friends with, but Kinnison.
00:43:05.000Well, Michael, if you ever think about getting married, if you ever think you've met the right woman, you want to settle down, change your life, can you do me a favor, Mike?
00:45:35.000Yeah, I find that when I see good looking people on stage, if I think someone is naturally, that's how that person dresses.
00:45:41.000But like you said, if it feels genuine, if it doesn't feel genuine, if I feel like someone is trying to sexy it up on stage, male or female, I don't like it.
00:46:00.000You're getting something different, and now you might add funny to it, but it might be taking away from funny with this extra effort that you've put into looking hot.
00:46:10.000Yeah, and again, I can only look at my own self-image, and it's like I've never thought of myself that way, so it's never been tempting for me.
00:46:18.000So maybe if it was tempting, or if I had like half a fuckability, I might want to do that, but it's never been how I saw myself, so it's never been tempting to even think that way.
00:46:26.000Well, it used to be also that a lot of people would dress that way, because what they were really trying to do is get a sitcom.
00:46:34.000It was like if you dress sexy on stage or you dress hot or attractive on stage, it was what you were trying to do is they're trying to convey your comedy success into the big prize, which is you could be Seinfeld or you could be Roseanne.
00:46:48.000That was our thing when we were coming up.
00:46:51.000I remember when Greg Giraldo got his show.
00:46:54.000Everybody's like, wow, Greg's got his own show.
00:47:53.000It's like our thing is so different than the thing of this manufactured image that you're putting in television shows and the kind of people you're hired for entertainment news and all that kind of shit.
00:48:06.000Like this is a different kind of business that they're in than us.
00:48:09.000Yeah, it's something I've always kind of felt like...
00:48:12.000I don't mean an outsider in some dark way.
00:48:14.000I've just felt like that's not the path for me.
00:49:17.000You're working for the production company.
00:49:20.000You're engaged in some weird politics to make sure you get favorable placings in the lineup on Tuesday night or Thursday night, hopefully Thursday, maybe after Seinfeld if you're lucky.
00:49:31.000There was this weird aspect to creating these shows.
00:49:35.000You're dealing with executives that would give you notes that made no sense.
00:49:39.000They have creative input and they're not particularly creative.
00:50:28.000I mean, the way, thank God for these ways around.
00:50:31.000Like, again, radio embraced doing what you want to do and talking.
00:50:35.000Slow news days were the thing, that's where your personal life comes out.
00:50:39.000When you have a four or five hour radio show and it's a slow news day and there's nothing to hit on, everyone just starts spilling their guts because you have to talk.
00:50:46.000And that's where a lot of that stuff came out, slow news days.
00:50:49.000Well, we got very fortunate in the timeline in which we came along, right?
00:50:54.000Because what happened was you got guys like Don Imus, who kind of started it all, right?
00:51:00.000He starts just commentary and talking shit on the radio, and he's a wild man and a bad boy.
00:51:06.000And then Howard Stern takes it to a completely different level.
00:51:09.000And Howard Stern takes over radio all over the country.
00:51:13.000And then Opie and Anthony comes along.
00:51:15.000And Opie and Anthony is the next stage because they have a different perspective on how to do a show.
00:53:34.000You know, I would love to do everything.
00:53:36.000If I had multiple different lives that I could live simultaneously, I'd have a ton of different careers, because I'm fascinated by a lot of different things.
00:53:43.000But you don't have that much time in the world.
00:53:45.000And if you want to act, acting is like 16 hour days, multiple days in a row.
00:55:54.000So then it became MTV, and a bunch of different things came along, and, like, you could be on remote control and MTV, like some people were, or you could be on this show or that show.
00:56:06.000I would have never thought that as it...
00:56:09.000Continues to go as wide as it is today that sitcoms will all but vanish.
00:56:13.000Yeah, never would have I guess because the idea like again anytime these people touch things anytime the business Becomes too involved in something they they neuter it and they make it on.
00:56:24.000It's just not funny anymore They have laugh tracks.
00:56:26.000So did the writing didn't have to be that good, right?
00:56:29.000You know the laugh tracks are what really killed it like because the writing could be weak But the laugh was the same so the writing didn't have to be good.
00:56:35.000Whereas live TV if it wasn't good, you knew it wasn't good Yeah, there's shows that they do where you can watch clips online that are without the laugh track before the laugh track was added to it, and it's horrendous!
00:57:42.000Because as a comic, he hated doing the same joke in front of the audience twice.
00:57:46.000So you'd try to come up with something, or he would just improv something crazy.
00:57:50.000It was a lot of fun, but it was a challenge to try not to do the same joke if you could avoid it.
00:57:55.000That was one of the fun things they did on news radio.
00:57:57.000We would do a take, and then they would take a break, and the writers would convey, and then the warm-up guy would talk to the crowd, and then the writers would come up with another line.
00:58:07.000And then we'd bang it out right there, and try another line, and then do like three or four different takes.
00:58:12.000And the audience started to get ready for the different joke at the end.
00:58:17.000And there was like three or four different ones, and they'd pick one.
00:58:20.000But it was like the pressure of that moment was what created some of the best ideas, for whatever reason.
00:58:25.000You feel dishonest doing the same joke twice.
00:58:28.000There's something about it where you feel like, hey, we all know I'm lying right now.
00:58:36.000And the crowd is much more appreciative when they know you're giving them something different.
00:58:41.000But yeah, I feel terrible doing this like some guys when they do a stand-up special like I've never done a Retake of a joke and again not that I don't think any of them needed it But it's just like I'm too embarrassed to do the same joke twice to the audience I would rather like I dropped my closing joke on a special because I fucking tripped on it like an idiot And I just I couldn't go back and redo it.
00:59:00.000I'm like I just have to close with something else.
00:59:51.000We'd be in the middle of the fucking thing.
00:59:53.000And then we'd take two and I'd pinch myself or slap myself or do something to try to be more serious and get through it.
01:00:00.000But there's that too that the audience is seeing.
01:00:03.000So if they see you retake a scene, but at least you're adding new lines, so now it doesn't feel like they're burdened by seeing the same thing over again.
01:00:11.000Now it's like, oh wow, this is how they do it.
01:00:13.000So sometimes they just come up with new stuff on the fly.
01:00:16.000It's also weird when I don't look at the audience.
01:00:19.000Like, as a stand-up, you want to just look at the crowd.
01:00:21.000But if we were shooting something on the side stage, and the crowd would just watch it on a monitor, or even if I do Gutfeld on Fox, and I'm usually sitting next to Greg where I see the audience, but once in a while, if I sit in the seat where the audience is here, it's so hard to just live in this environment without just turning and looking at the crowd.
01:03:30.000The writing, though, like, they didn't really, I'm sure they fucked with him where I didn't see it, but we would run through the rehearsals, and it always seemed to pretty much, we would kind of shoot what I thought we were going to shoot.
01:03:41.000I just, the critics, there was one critic who, like, weeks into the series went after it, and Louie always thought, like, that was one of the things that sunk us.
01:03:49.000So, you know, it is what it is, I mean, but it was, that was one of the ones I looked back on and go, fuck, I wish that had been good for a season two.
01:06:20.000If you go to Alain Robert, A-L-A-I-N, I think his Instagram showed it, where he's very close to the top of the building and you can see the wind.
01:10:13.000Brian Redband's dad worked in this office and this lady was always trying to get him to skydive with him and then one day he goes in the office and she's not there.
01:13:23.000Because like regular climbing rocks got boring.
01:13:27.000And if you talk to psychologists that really understand the human mind, there's like a thing that these, this is like the theory, that some of these people that do this kind of stuff, like look at that, look how insane that is.
01:14:13.000Porn or set like you I mean like it took so long or so many different things to just get to that feeling like I'm starting to feel high from this I'm starting to feel yeah like baseline normal is a good way to put that it's a good way to put like one of the conversations that I We were having the other day in the green room was how fun it is to be able to talk to people that you just want to have fun with Just like comics you could say anything to them.
01:14:35.000Everyone's shit on everybody We're all cracking up and it's all with love And that's our baseline normal.
01:14:42.000So if you get the people that are used to what we have as baseline normal and you put them in some stuffy office environment, It's going to be a real problem for us.
01:14:52.000We're going to feel super constrained and we're going to feel like shit.
01:14:55.000And people who see it a lot of times think you're being mean to each other.
01:14:58.000And it's like, no, you have an understanding that this is how we...
01:15:47.000So yeah, people see that sometimes they don't understand that we really do love each other like we're just being dicks because that's what makes us laugh Yeah, and it's also the way we feed off each other We spar and it gets everybody better too like when someone shits on you with a really good zinger You know, oh you get home.
01:16:03.000He got me good one Yeah, how did I fuck I gotta I gotta write better lines.
01:16:07.000I gotta come up with some better lines I gotta come up with some more funny things to say about him Let me think what's fucked up about the way he dresses, the way he talks, and you know what annoys me about you?
01:16:15.000And then you're going out, and they're both smiling.
01:16:31.000Like, it was an aunt thing that I said, and you can either get annoyed at it, Or you can just acknowledge, like, wow, that really was kind of a douchey old lady thing I just said, and just take it.
01:16:42.000Well, also, even if it wasn't, the fact that someone could make fun of it, you should think that's funny.
01:16:47.000Even though, well, that's not what I meant.
01:17:34.000And if you always have to watch what you're saying or you're always worried I'm going to upset them by being too harsh or they're too fragile.
01:17:41.000Now imagine that same sort of philosophy, that same mindset, and then you apply it to work.
01:17:47.000So work, when you have to work somewhere, most of the time you don't get to choose the people you work with.
01:17:53.000You work with the people who also work at the place you work.
01:17:55.000And then you have to deal with all these fucking bullshit sensitivities that they might be bringing to the table.
01:18:01.000Yeah, and there's also a penalty in those situations where if you say something people don't like, they go to human resources.
01:18:40.000I know people that have had to do that where it's easier to pay someone than it is to Yeah, deal with the ramifications of being falsely charged.
01:20:41.000He was going to, I think, murder Sonia Sotomayor, I think her name is, the Supreme Court Justice, and they said he might have killed somebody else in L.A. They don't know.
01:20:49.000But yeah, he was going to shoot her, and her son answered the door.
01:22:12.000Or is this guy trying to be a piece of shit because he resents me?
01:22:15.000You learn pretty quickly to read motives.
01:22:19.000Maybe it's just an animal gut instinct, but I'm like, this guy's a fucking problem.
01:22:25.000So yeah, I got very lucky with that, that it never got to that.
01:22:30.000I wonder how much you having him humiliated ramped up all of his anger and led to him murdering people.
01:22:37.000You know, I don't know, because it was years later, and it was also, he had this thing with women.
01:22:42.000Like, I originally, we were going to interview him because he was suing Colombia because of their guys' studies, or women's studies, sorry.
01:22:49.000And so I was like, look, I don't like anything that's progressive and exclusive by nature.
01:23:11.000And it got ugly and I was just being a dick like I was on the air.
01:23:17.000I think he had so many of these problems, and it was much more about women than anything I said to him.
01:23:22.000My humiliation of him was years earlier, but I do think I humiliated him, and he really wanted to.
01:23:28.000My attorney at the time, his name was Tom Ferber, he was a great lawyer, and my law firm hated him so much, they retroactively knocked down what they were charging me.
01:23:39.000They go, this guy's such a bad guy that we're gonna charge you less and we're gonna make it retroactive.
01:23:44.000Like they were so offended by what he was doing as an attorney.
01:24:41.000Because then people, like, I had a couple people talking about, you better watch your back, or talking about getting shot, and they were using their real names.
01:24:48.000I'm like, alright, if this guy's using his real name, he's a fucking, there's something wrong with him.
01:25:03.000And aggressive in shitting on people, aggressive in attacking people, and the weaponization of the pests...
01:25:11.000Yeah, and they kind of did it on their own, and we enjoyed it, because they were really funny.
01:25:16.000Like, they would do some really funny shit, like we would do jock-tobers, and just torture another- We should tell everybody what the pests are in the audience.
01:25:26.000Oh, they were just these O&A fans that were rabid.
01:25:29.000Really connected, very committed fans.
01:25:31.000Yeah, and Pest was just this dumb affectionate because they were just pests.
01:26:22.000But Kenny comes out and I was waiting to do a show and he goes, hey, you Jocktobered these people and they want to know if you have the guts to come in studio.
01:30:09.000Yeah, same building same building, but he go in the studio.
01:30:12.000I don't think he's been there for a long time I think he broadcasts from home like he's got his own studio But even when he was in I wouldn't see him because I came in I would see Artie like Artie Lang and I would bump into each other in the elevator all the time and I hated getting up and which would drive me crazy like Artie does heroin and he and I are getting here at the same time like he would he would fucking be there with the sunglasses on in the elevator going up to work So I bumped into Artie all the time,
01:30:37.000but Howard I've probably seen two or three times in all those years.
01:31:03.000If you're just doing it from your home and you're not going out, being out with people, and your only connection to the world is through a microphone.
01:32:01.000And then from there, it goes on to podcasts.
01:32:04.000And, you know, it's not possible without Howard Stern.
01:32:08.000It's a totally different path to entertainment talking because this is like that kind of just having a conversation with someone that really didn't exist in that form before where you heard it for long periods of time with comedians.
01:32:38.000Oh, and they had girls would talk in and they would have them rub the phone on their pussy and try to guess what their pubic hair looked like.
01:33:25.000I unfortunately did not get to see many driving, but I had to hear from happy listeners.
01:33:30.000But it was that kind of a show that was like a welcome break from all the fake bullshit that you would hear in most media.
01:33:38.000Yeah, and there was no real like you could say anything you wanted because it was only it was a subscription service And then our show was a subscription on top of that like we went on XM There was a $2 fee additionally to get Opie and Anthony like it wasn't even on the regular we fought for a year to get on the regular Platform they kept Opie and Anthony separated.
01:33:59.000Is that because they were scared of you guys?
01:34:00.000I think so, and they also wanted to have that thing, hey, you paid the $2, that's what I think.
01:35:46.000Again, I'm not overconfident because I'm not looking for a fight, but when there's a disruption or a ruckus, you're less concerned about what happens if this comes this way.
01:35:57.000You at least feel like, well, at least I would have an answer that I wouldn't have had seven or eight months ago.
01:36:02.000Yeah, you want to know what to do instead of just to freeze up.
01:36:05.000One of the best things about jiu-jitsu is when you are rolling, when you're sparring, you're essentially going full speed, right?
01:36:13.000You go full speed up into the point where you lock in the choke and then or an arm bar or a knee bar, whatever it is, and then you control because you don't want to hurt each other.
01:36:44.000So if someone grabs me out of nowhere, if someone grabs me, it's a total normal thing for me to feel.
01:36:53.000Someone the other day, I think it was Brian Moses, Grabbed me from behind and put his arm around my neck when I was in the green room and I tucked my chin.
01:38:58.000Yeah, and it's like, it's still, it's also my lungs and the fact that I'm 55. Like, you know, this guy I'm rolling with is a blue belt who moves very quick.
01:39:07.000Like, he's really hard to hold when he doesn't want to be held.
01:39:09.000Like, if he's drilling, but then, like, for the last X amount of minutes, a lot of times, I go, all right, I want you to follow him.
01:39:14.000Like, he wants me just to follow his movements.
01:39:16.000Like, if he's getting out of things, do I know what the next thing to do is?
01:39:20.000Like, just to kind of get me to do it without thinking.
01:39:32.000And it's like you have to learn how to say the words before you can form sentences.
01:39:36.000And that's what you're doing when you learn jujitsu.
01:39:39.000And just like having a conversation with someone, when someone's moving, your reactions to their movement is based on your understanding of what could and couldn't happen.
01:40:07.000It's almost like they're telepathic, like they're anticipating the other person's counter to their move and then they trap them with that and flow into the next defense of that and it's all just this whirlwind of movement that looks random unless you're educated in what they're doing and then you go,
01:42:41.000It's not just like, I'm going to get on this bike and I'm going to ride for fucking six miles on this fucking stationary bike while you're listening to a podcast.
01:45:09.000And most people, unfortunately, are addicted to it.
01:45:12.000And I've got these guys at the store, or at the mothership, rather, over the last month, this month of January, we're doing Carnivore Month.
01:45:21.000And I'm not saying, like, I am not a nutritionist, and I'm not saying that this is the best way that everyone on Earth should eat.
01:45:28.000But what I wanted them to do, to try it for a month, if you are committing to only eating meat and eggs and fish for a month, what you are also committing to doing is not eating bread, not eating pasta, not eating bullshit,
01:45:44.000not eating cake, not eating cookies, not eating potato chips, not eating just garbage that just clogs up your body with bullshit.
01:45:54.000And these guys are talking just in the two weeks we've been doing.
01:45:57.000They're like, oh my god, this is incredible.
01:45:59.000Derek was saying the other day, in the green room, he's like, I have so much energy, man.
01:48:14.000It could be a real crazy person or it could be something that someone wrote because it would be a funny scenario and they put it out on the internet and it gets a bunch of clicks because people believe things.
01:48:23.000There was one where somebody went for an MRI and the magnet sucked all this metal stuff against it.
01:48:28.000Yeah, I did hear about that and killed someone.
01:48:39.000Dude, they put music on, and I was fucking having a panic attack, so I tell the guy, put on some rock music, rock music, and this fucking guy thought I said Rocky, so all he's playing is the Rocky theme.
01:49:38.000According to the New York Post, a Brazilian lawyer was killed in a hospital in Sao Paulo in January when a handgun he was carrying during an MRI discharged into his stomach.
01:51:01.000But I also think that if you're getting some release from the Pentagon that says there's off-world crafts, UFOs, unexplainable vehicles, not of this earth, they don't tell you the truth about anything.
01:51:25.000If I was a smart guy who was involved in intelligence, I would say, what's the best way to get away with this new super-sophisticated weapons program?
01:52:03.000And then Mike, I felt compelled to go to Congress and explain.
01:52:07.000And then, you know, Mike is on fuckin' Newsmax and Mike is writing a substack now about all his experiences that he had in Area 51. There's a lot of loony people, man, and there's a lot of real interest in obscuring high-level military secrets that are of dire national intelligence and national security needs.
01:52:28.000If these things exist, the technology for...
01:52:34.000Insane hypersonic travel with a drone that evades, you know, all known weapon systems can move at a speed, almost at the speed of light, like some insane speed.
01:52:45.000If we really have something like that, the best way to pretend you don't have it is to say that it's alien.
01:52:53.000That's what I wanted to like the Fravor and Alex Dietrich.
01:52:56.000Is that what they saw something that we had like I want to believe that story so much because I like their story and I think they're credible people They definitely are credible people and I like their story too and it only makes sense that it's out there near where all the military bases are I mean, think about where that was.
01:54:18.000But I still, I was like, I watched both of those things, and I was like...
01:54:22.000I just he didn't say anything that combated what McWest said that made like you I mean McWest said things about that about that thing being real that cannot be denied because there was it was scanned They used multiple different types of equipment and and the human eye so you have this They they spotted this thing at above 50,000 feet and it went down to 50 feet in less than a second.
01:54:50.000They have video of this thing moving at an insane rate of speed that they judged to be like some fucking stupendous number of G's.
01:54:59.000That if a human being was inside of this thing, you'd just turn it into Jell-O. And then it went to their cat point, which is their predetermined destination that they were all gonna meet up.
01:55:08.000So this thing Either was being operated by the same people, and they knew that they could get it to that point, or it was telling them that it knew where they were supposed to go, and then it reappears.
01:55:21.000It moves off at this rate of speed that you can't process it.
01:56:25.000It's tricky between, like, an outright lie, which is Fairly rare amongst people, and then a distortion of truth, which is much more common.
01:56:34.000Yeah, filling in the blanks where you think it should go.
01:56:37.000Like a friend of mine was trying to tell me that he spotted a UFO in his backyard and they filmed it with his iPhone, but that the video wasn't on the phone after it was over.
01:56:47.000I go, okay, isn't it more likely you didn't press the button?
01:57:27.000It's just a distorted version of truth that suits that person more.
01:57:32.000And I think people do stuff like that all the time when it comes to these UFO sightings.
01:57:38.000You always have to leave in the possibility of someone who's immune to that.
01:57:42.000You have to leave in sightings from people that are credible, objectionable, or objective, rather, people that can look at something and go, I don't know what this is, but let me tell you what I saw.
01:57:55.000And they tell you what they saw to the best of their recollection and memory with no additives.
01:58:01.000Without the expectation of convincing you of something, or without the expectation of it being A, B, or C, but hey, this is what happened, whatever it is it is.
01:59:09.000And then many days later, he shows up with this crazy story in the town, wearing the same clothes.
01:59:18.000And doesn't know how he got there and calls for help and he says that he was abducted and taken aboard this craft and they fixed him.
01:59:27.000They realized that they had blasted him with this beam of energy that came off of this spaceship and then they brought him back on and repaired him.
01:59:34.000He talked about the different kinds of beings that he encountered and what the experience was like.
01:59:45.000It may be it was ball lightning and maybe when he approached the ball lightning He got hit and electrocuted sure and maybe he had a near-death experience and maybe in that near-death experience He had some psychedelic imagination of this experience where he was in contact with other beings or Maybe during those near-death experiences,
02:00:09.000your brain really does produce a chemical gateway that opens up a portal to something that's around you all the time, but you're never in contact with.
02:00:19.000So what he's interpreting as being taken aboard a UFO and brought to some place, maybe whatever that experience was, whatever the phenomenon that hit him, whether it was ball lightning or something else, when you get hit,
02:00:36.000And you almost die, and your brain has this experience, and it's opening up this chemical gateway to things that are around you all the time.
02:00:43.000And then you come back, you have this version of a thing where you're in a physical craft, you're being taken away, and the aliens are working on you.
02:00:50.000But it might just be that you got to death's door.
02:01:03.000You laid there and almost died and went into a near-death experience where your soul transcended into some new dimension and you interacted with this well of souls that surround us all the time.
02:01:15.000It's just you're not capable of experiencing it and seeing it with regular human eyes.
02:01:44.000I've heard there was disputes about how much of their story they told it was the same, but I've never deep dove on it to say that they're lying.
02:01:53.000Imagine if you and I both got abducted.
02:01:58.000In the studio we're talking, all of a sudden the lights go off and fucking weird light from outside is making its way into the windows like, what the fuck is going on?
02:02:06.000And then you and I wake up and we're on a spaceship and we don't know what the fuck happened.
02:02:11.000We're on a spaceship and they take us into different rooms and then we're there for like two days and then you wake up in your hotel room.
02:03:05.000I just, I'm too skeptical, and I think that it exists, but I just, it's so frustrating that I just can't find that one that makes me go, fuck.
02:03:13.000Like, I envy people with that conviction.
02:03:17.000Like, even if I don't agree with it, I envy their ability to have that conviction.
02:03:21.000I think we're trying to look at it like a movie.
02:03:24.000And I think it's probably way weirder than that.
02:03:27.000I think the reality of what alien life is...
02:03:29.000I think there's, again, I want to state this, I don't know.
02:03:34.000But I think there's probably multiple factors going on simultaneously.
02:03:37.000And I'm not discounting the idea that some of those factors are another life form that's undocumented.
02:03:44.000So I think you have your bullshit that's going on where there's definitely some programs, just like they did with the stealth bomber, just like they did with hypersonic missiles.
02:03:52.000There's a lot of stuff that they developed that's like it has to be developed in top secret for national security reasons.
02:04:08.000But I also think just the sheer, raw numbers of planets that are in the sky, the insane number of galaxies and solar systems would lead me to believe that something has probably made it past this point where we are at right now.
02:04:24.000And if something has made it past this point, even just a few thousand years, that something would be very curious about what's going on in other planets and would figure out a way to get there.
02:04:33.000Yeah, look, I think that that stuff definitely exists somewhere.
02:04:36.000My ex, Jen, is a huge believer in alternate time, like, what do they call when you, the fucking...
02:05:59.000And then when you realized he wasn't fucking with you, you'd go, wow.
02:06:02.000Yeah, I would think he relapsed or he had dementia.
02:06:04.000I would think something, even if I didn't think he was lying, I would think something was going on.
02:06:09.000Take him to that MRI. Yeah, there's something going on with you, even if I didn't think he was bullshitting me.
02:06:14.000But I can't think of anybody who would convince me that even if I knew they were being truthful, I would think that they were making a mistake or that they believed something that wasn't true.
02:06:26.000There's also these narratives that are in people's heads and one of the narratives that it's in people's head the archetype of that gray alien that thing with the big black eyes yeah giant head that is in everyone's head and if an alien wanted to comfort you and Not alarm you.
02:06:45.000I think it would assume an iconic shape Like if something is not even it's not even a biological life form.
02:06:53.000It's something so bizarre And so advanced, so past this carbon-based biological body that we find ourselves trapped in.
02:07:03.000Something so bizarre that it's actually interacting with your very soul.
02:07:08.000It might show itself in a way that thinks you'll freak out less to.
02:09:28.000And it's like, that's all I'm, like, it's just this vague stuff doesn't do anything for me.
02:09:32.000And Michiukaku's a genius, but I just, I wish he was less Good Morning America-ish and, like, great at explaining things to idiots like me.
02:09:40.000I think it, you know, that's his lane, though, right?
02:10:08.000They just announced that the manned mission to the moon is going to be delayed until 2026. When I saw that, all my immediate skepticism said, oh, well, that's by 2026. How good is AI going to be?
02:10:22.000You're not going to have any idea what's happening anywhere in the world by 2026. That's what's really scary.
02:11:01.000And again, if I was an artificial intelligence and I wanted to completely disrupt this organism that had been in control of the earth forever before I emerged, that's how I would do it.
02:11:20.000And again, I'm not big on that, but if there's any type of an alien or a computer thought process, it is just kind of let these idiots fuck themselves up with algorithms and things like that and just get mad at each other enough and split up.
02:11:35.000I don't know I'm just such a skeptical all that stuff like that whenever I think there's a bigger design to something I tend to like tap out and think that it's just not legit But I've been proven wrong too well with artificial intelligence It's not even a theory.
02:11:51.000Because if you have an artificial life form, and that life form gets to the point where it's far superior to the life form that controls it, and it's been shown to act in its own interests, like one of the things they showed when I had these Tristan Harris and What's the other dude's name?
02:12:50.000And if it can do that and they're just aware of that because it does it, I forget what the term is, but there's a term for these emergent intelligences and activities that this AI will do that they didn't anticipate.
02:13:01.000Like there's no program pathway towards this kind of decision making, but it makes this decision on its own.
02:13:10.000It's going to have the ability to make choices.
02:13:12.000It's going to have the ability to act and Maybe more importantly, it's going to have the ability to make a better version of itself.
02:13:20.000Don't the people who invented it, aren't they all saying that too?
02:13:22.000The AI guys are like, it's a problem and this is getting very bad and very dangerous.
02:13:26.000I guess because I'm 55, I don't worry too much about it.
02:13:30.000They all openly talk about the inevitable end of biological life.
02:13:36.000They talk about this being maybe even a good thing, that biological life gets replaced by digital life, and that what everyone who's involved in AI is doing is essentially giving birth to this.
02:15:03.000I shot that down and dirty, and Ari was one of the comedians that was on, and at the end of his set, in front of the audience, he just pulled down his pants, and his dick and his balls were out, and he walked off, and oh, they were fuming at Ari.
02:15:46.000Brigham will explain to you why people have these fears about the side effects and what the real data shows.
02:15:54.000Yeah, and I did the test, and they were very thorough, and the woman who I spoke to was very helpful, and she walked me through, and they did send me some supplements.
02:16:02.000I'm buying these supplements where I'm taking like three or four pills a day, but the TRT I probably could use.
02:16:09.000Well, one of the things that they've shown that ramps up testosterone without taking anything is if you can incorporate a cold plunge and then a workout after the cold plunge into your life.
02:19:31.000And I would notice that where I would go in stressed and do it and then I'm finished and I'm like, I didn't think about a fucking thing other than exactly what Mike was telling me to do or what I was doing with this person.
02:20:41.000It's a fascinating conversation because everyone's like, well, you would never want your daughter or your mother or your sister to be a prostitute, right?
02:21:09.000Because of the way our society is and the way we look at sex, we think of sex work as being a very different kind of work because it's involving intimacy in your body.
02:22:45.000They decriminalized it in Manhattan, maybe, in 2021. Stop prosecuting prostitution, part of nationwide shift.
02:22:54.000District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. moved to dismiss thousands of cases dating back decades and made a growing movement to change the criminal justice system's approach to prostitutions.
02:23:52.000Perfect storm for prostitution in Corona and New York City immigrant enclaves.
02:23:57.000Vulnerable migrant women unable to legally work are flooding the city while local district attorneys have chosen to stop prosecuting sex workers.
02:24:10.000The Roosevelt Avenue red light district is blatantly advertised on a YouTube channel for Spanish speakers with 10 minutes of footage showing the women working what they call the market of sweethearts and two men guiding viewers on how to negotiate with them.
02:24:52.000Yeah, the one article, too, I was looking at it back before, said a lot of the unlicensed massages and other things like that, they're just going to stop prosecuting.
02:25:00.000Imagine if you have a store downstairs that just sells socks and pantyhose and baseball hats, and above it there's prostitutes.
02:27:10.000We're gonna get to a point where there was an invention that they were working on a long time ago that would have these tiny...
02:27:22.000I don't know what you would call them, like tiny machines that were the size of a grain of sand or a grain of rice, and you could spread them everywhere, and they would give you location data, they would give you video and audio,
02:27:38.000they would give you all sorts of different things, but they were so tiny.
02:27:40.000That you could just leave them all over the place.
02:27:43.000And they would transmit through a network.
02:28:29.000When you walk into my apartment, because I'm so fucking paranoid, I have one facing the front door, and I have two on my terrace, because I'm always afraid someone's going to jump down from the roof, which is kind of crazy.
02:28:53.000I was looking back, I didn't realize that it was me.
02:28:56.000I didn't recognize myself in the video.
02:28:58.000And I'm confronted, I'm like, who the fuck is this?
02:29:00.000And it was just a video of me leaving.
02:29:01.000You confronted her before you realized that it, didn't you like zoom in on her or something?
02:29:05.000It's a it's a terrible grainy photo and I took screen grabs of it I'm like who the fuck is this and it was me you guys role-playing I swear to God it was it was I'm like why it wasn't they were it was like a weird intimate kiss on the cheek and a long hug and I realized that it was me I have the photos somewhere.
02:29:24.000I don't know why that I think you need a better camera No, or I just need to fucking watch something through.
02:29:30.000It's also a better camera because you didn't even know it was you.
02:29:33.000If it is someone else, if someone is breaking into your house, you're never going to get a good description of them.
02:29:57.000I found a lot of articles talking about the smart dust, which is what you were just describing, but I can't find anything that talks about, like, here's it in action.
02:30:04.000There's a lot of descriptions of this is what it will do, but all the way dating back to maybe even as early as the 90s they've been talking about it.
02:30:10.000Yeah, that's what I was talking about, that it was kind of more theoretical than anything.
02:30:52.000It raises up, and it will fly in a pattern that you walk around with it, and you show where to go, and then you put it back down, and it can repeat that pattern.
02:31:49.000Samsung has a refrigerator that will take an AI. It will use AI to tell you what the expiration dates of all the food products that are in your refrigerator, when they were put in there.
02:31:59.000The contents of them, it'll break it all down for you.
02:32:02.000And even give you recipes to cook, like the food that's in your fridge.
02:33:31.000You have a refrigerator that tells you what the ingredients you have in the refrigerator is, when the expiration date of these foods are, and then gives you a recipe so you can cook based on what's in the fridge.
02:33:43.000I like that, and then there's also the part of, I don't want my refrigerator involved.
02:34:07.000I don't need to have a relationship with it.
02:34:09.000Like, I just want to go in and get some shit.
02:34:10.000I have these meals I order, they're like for the Whole30 diet, which is what I do when I really lose weight.
02:34:15.000And they just, they pre-make them and they send them and I know what I'm, it's fucking, it's boring because you eat the same stuff all the time, even if you have a variety, but it's better than I would do on my own.
02:35:02.000You know, I see that, and it looks great, but I know what that is.
02:35:06.000That's the food that's just comfort food, tastes delicious, but you really shouldn't be eating that every day.
02:35:12.000No, and I've gotten, it's funny, I've gotten into Jersey Mike's, like my manager hates them so much because he hates the name Jersey Mike's, he feels like it's a fake name.
02:35:20.000He's really weird with the stuff that he doesn't like.
02:35:22.000So I tried them once, and I'm like, I fucking, and they would send us like coupons and free stuff, and that fucking, it's good food.
02:35:59.000But you got to give yourself a day or two to do it and then not do it.
02:36:02.000Yeah, if you give yourself a designated cheat day, whether it's once a week or once a month, whatever you choose to do, and then just eat, then you'll have fun, but then you'll all...
02:36:11.000Like Sean Brady was here yesterday from the UFC, and he was saying that after he won his fight, after he beat Calvin Gaslam, he had one day where he just ate like a pig, and he said he felt so fucking terrible the next day.
02:36:22.000He's like, God, I gotta get right back on track.
02:36:24.000But I gave myself one day, and I felt like fucking total dog shit after it was over.
02:36:29.000I was watching, like, on Instagram, The Rock will do, like, these Sunday cheat days, but this is how delusional I am.
02:36:35.000I've actually watched that, and I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna have some, you know, like, almost like The Rock and I are on the same fucking food regimen, but I'll watch him eat something, and it will make me want to have a cheat day.
02:36:45.000But it's like, Jim, you've given yourself nothing but cheat days.
02:38:32.000No, I know the diet that works for me is, if I stick to, like you said, no sugar, no carbs, the whole 30 diet, I've lost, I mean, I lost a lot of weight on that.