The Joe Rogan Experience - January 19, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2088 - Yannis Pappas


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 31 minutes

Words per Minute

190.64676

Word Count

28,937

Sentence Count

3,229

Misogynist Sentences

60

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe talks about the latest events in the world, including the recent vote in favor of a ceasefire in the conflict between Israel and Palestine, and the protests in the streets of New York and San Francisco. He also talks about his trip to the Mexican border, and why he doesn t care about the fact that people are wearing masks in public. Joe also discusses the recent events in Ukraine, and how we should all be paying attention to what's going on in the Middle East, especially in regards to the ongoing conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians. And, of course, there's a little bit of politics at the end of the episode, as he talks about what he thinks about the current state of the world and what we should be focusing on in order to make sense of it all. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review! It helps spread the word to other podcasters and podcasters looking for more awesome podcubers! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Please rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast! Thank you so much for all the support, it really means a lot to me. I really appreciate it. Peace, Love, Blessings, Cheers, Judea. -J.J. & The Crew -Jon -PSO and the crew at The Jerrold and the Crew xoxo, Caitie - Emily, Sarah, J.R. & the Crews - Sarah, Sarah & the crew - Sarah, - J.J., - EJ & Sarah, R.A. & Sarah - Mimi, Margo, and Sarah, M.A., J.B. & K. ( ) - R. & Alyssa, B. (and Sarah, C. (Alyssa) , and Sarah ( ) - M. (Sue, S.J.) - S. , & Sarah (A. ) . ( ) & Sarah & Sarah M. & J. (M. (J.A.) (Josie) - B. & Rory ( ) . , JOSIE) .


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:19.000 I'm enjoying it.
00:00:32.000 I went to Suerte.
00:00:34.000 Oh, that's a good spot.
00:00:35.000 It was incredible.
00:00:36.000 Yeah, that's a good spot.
00:00:37.000 I think it's the best Mexican I ever had.
00:00:39.000 It's very good.
00:00:39.000 There's a lot of good Mexican out here.
00:00:41.000 Yeah.
00:00:42.000 That's a good spot, though.
00:00:43.000 That was good.
00:00:44.000 Yeah.
00:00:44.000 And of course, hit the Terry B's on Martin Luther King Day, so it was empty.
00:00:48.000 It was nice.
00:00:49.000 Suerte, you have the added benefit of being around people with masks.
00:00:52.000 That's like East Austin.
00:00:55.000 I haven't seen any masks.
00:00:56.000 You haven't seen any?
00:00:56.000 No.
00:00:57.000 I think...
00:00:59.000 Well, I did in Vancouver.
00:01:00.000 I was in Vancouver before this.
00:01:02.000 There we are.
00:01:02.000 They never stopped.
00:01:03.000 No, they're still going, yeah.
00:01:05.000 It's wild.
00:01:06.000 There's a San Francisco town hall meeting, and they passed a vote to stop for a ceasefire in Palestine.
00:01:15.000 I saw it, yeah.
00:01:16.000 And so they're all masked up, and they're dancing around, and they got blue hair.
00:01:21.000 And somebody made a caption that this is literally South Park.
00:01:25.000 This is literally an episode of South Park.
00:01:28.000 They look like fucking complete maniacs, left in this worn, torn, shattered hull of a city.
00:01:36.000 Whatever's left is filled with human shit and tents everywhere.
00:01:40.000 They're dancing around.
00:01:41.000 They've stopped a ceasefire in Palestine.
00:01:43.000 Yeah, we voted for it.
00:01:45.000 Stop it.
00:01:47.000 They solved it in Oakland.
00:01:49.000 Like, as if Benjamin Netanyahu's paying attention.
00:01:52.000 Right.
00:01:52.000 Like, that's gonna work.
00:01:54.000 I guess I'll stop now.
00:01:55.000 Yeah.
00:01:55.000 He stopped traffic on the way to the airport in New York, and that'll do it.
00:01:58.000 Yeah, that does it.
00:01:59.000 That generally does it.
00:02:01.000 That's what Netanyahu's waiting for.
00:02:03.000 He's like, alright, now I've...
00:02:06.000 I've seen the error in my ways now.
00:02:07.000 Now I gotta pull back.
00:02:08.000 Now I gotta pull back.
00:02:09.000 I did go a little too far.
00:02:10.000 Let me back up.
00:02:11.000 Yeah, let me back it up right now.
00:02:12.000 Dude, they're stopping traffic.
00:02:13.000 This is serious.
00:02:14.000 I saw in Austin, I saw three people on the overpass just holding up a Free Palestine thing, and I'm going like, alright, that did it.
00:02:21.000 I bet those people have amazing, productive lives, and they're not crazy at all.
00:02:26.000 Yeah, not at all, no.
00:02:27.000 They got a full schedule of things to do, and they took a lot of time out of their schedule to stand on top of the highway.
00:02:33.000 They're super healthy.
00:02:34.000 They're really into mindfulness.
00:02:36.000 They're on the ball every day.
00:02:38.000 They get everything done.
00:02:40.000 Every one of them.
00:02:41.000 Every one of them has an alert for what they have to do next on their very busy schedule.
00:02:47.000 Free Palestine.
00:02:48.000 I wasn't gonna.
00:02:49.000 Those people just...
00:02:50.000 But I saw your banner.
00:02:51.000 Yeah, until the banner came up.
00:02:53.000 Yeah, those people are just perpetuating the situation over there.
00:02:55.000 It's like...
00:02:57.000 The whole is it right or wrong thing, it's like it's obviously wrong.
00:03:01.000 Humans have always been wrong.
00:03:03.000 When it comes to that.
00:03:04.000 It's always been about power, who's got more power, and who has less.
00:03:08.000 It's very multi-layered.
00:03:10.000 That's the thing about any international conflict.
00:03:13.000 You can look at the mainstream media narrative.
00:03:16.000 You know, they did this, then they did that.
00:03:19.000 But then, it's like Ukraine and Russia.
00:03:21.000 Like you say, oh my god, Russia invaded Ukraine?
00:03:23.000 This is horrible.
00:03:24.000 And that's most people's natural reaction to it.
00:03:28.000 And then when you go, wait a minute, was there a rule?
00:03:30.000 Did they make an agreement to not push arms closer to Russia?
00:03:35.000 Did they consistently violate that agreement?
00:03:37.000 Were they trying to move Ukraine?
00:03:39.000 I was reading about them trying to move Ukraine into NATO, like what?
00:03:42.000 What are you, a Putin supporter?
00:03:44.000 Are you a Putin supporter?
00:03:46.000 No, wait a minute, isn't this a very multifaceted, super complex, international conflict that really is about A lot of things.
00:03:58.000 It's not just about Russia and Ukraine.
00:04:00.000 It's about NATO. It's about nuclear arms being pushed closer to a superpower.
00:04:06.000 It's like...
00:04:07.000 Yeah.
00:04:08.000 There's more to it.
00:04:08.000 There's more to it.
00:04:09.000 There's more to all of it.
00:04:10.000 And usually that's why war breaks out is because it's so multi-layered and then it gets to that breaking point.
00:04:16.000 It's just wild that they could still pull off war today.
00:04:20.000 War, which is essentially like hijacking resources or controlling parcels of land.
00:04:25.000 It's weird that they could still talk people into that today.
00:04:28.000 Because it's kind of an old hustle.
00:04:30.000 It's almost like old radio.
00:04:31.000 Yeah.
00:04:34.000 It's such an old hustle that you can get people to believe these people hate you for your freedom or whatever it is.
00:04:40.000 And then you go over there, oh, let's fucking shuttle up and go kick their ass.
00:04:44.000 It's kind of amazing.
00:04:46.000 Given what we know about the true nature of conflicts and how so many things are manipulated behind the scenes to force people into actual physical conflict.
00:04:58.000 And then there's generals that sit in air conditioned offices and they move their pieces around the board like chess pieces.
00:05:06.000 Yeah.
00:05:06.000 Human lives.
00:05:07.000 Yeah.
00:05:08.000 Yeah, and they don't fight.
00:05:09.000 They're never in the front.
00:05:10.000 Never!
00:05:11.000 I don't even think Alexander the Great was in the front.
00:05:14.000 I don't buy it.
00:05:15.000 Oh, he didn't live long.
00:05:16.000 He didn't live like...
00:05:17.000 Alexander the Great, he died like...
00:05:18.000 He's like 40. Yeah, didn't they die young back then?
00:05:20.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:21.000 And he died of like some sickness.
00:05:22.000 He didn't die from like a battle wound.
00:05:24.000 I think probably I'll die of sickness.
00:05:26.000 But can you survive if you're in the front back then?
00:05:29.000 It was like a human meat factory.
00:05:31.000 No, you're not going to survive.
00:05:32.000 He was in the back.
00:05:33.000 Most likely you're not going to survive.
00:05:34.000 I feel like back then, sickness probably really kicked in when we started gathering together and throwing our shit out the window.
00:05:43.000 Actual shit.
00:05:45.000 Like human shit.
00:05:46.000 Like if you think about the cities of ancient times before there was plumbing.
00:05:51.000 Do you know how horrific that must have been?
00:05:54.000 History smelled, yeah.
00:05:55.000 We don't remember.
00:05:57.000 We were there.
00:05:57.000 We assume every place is like Target.
00:06:00.000 We assume every place is like a fucking rest stop on the highway.
00:06:05.000 You can go in and take a shit.
00:06:07.000 No!
00:06:08.000 No, people were shitting out windows.
00:06:10.000 They were throwing their shit in buckets.
00:06:12.000 According to Wikipedia, he was a very productive 20-year-old, 20-something.
00:06:18.000 He was 20?
00:06:19.000 When he took over as king.
00:06:21.000 Whoa.
00:06:22.000 Yeah, he conquered the world.
00:06:23.000 He was in his early 20s.
00:06:24.000 What a gangster.
00:06:25.000 Look at this.
00:06:25.000 By the age of 20...
00:06:27.000 Okay, he succeeded his father, Philip II, to the throne in 336 BC at the age of 20 and spent most of his ruling years conducting a lengthy military campaign through Western Asia and Egypt.
00:06:39.000 By the age of 30, he had created one of the largest empires in history.
00:06:44.000 Holy shit!
00:06:46.000 Stretching from Greece to northwestern India.
00:06:49.000 He was undefeated in battle and widely considered to be one of history's greatest and most successful military commanders.
00:06:55.000 And wasn't he also gay?
00:06:57.000 He was bi.
00:06:58.000 Was he bi?
00:06:59.000 That was the way back then, yeah.
00:07:00.000 Is that what he was?
00:07:02.000 Yeah.
00:07:03.000 A student of Aristotle.
00:07:04.000 And there was...
00:07:05.000 We've read that question about how those relationships...
00:07:08.000 Tutored by...
00:07:09.000 Yeah, those relationships were uncomfortable.
00:07:14.000 Those guys all fucked those kids.
00:07:15.000 They had eunuchs.
00:07:17.000 There's those?
00:07:18.000 Yeah, they had eunuchs and then they just had young boys.
00:07:21.000 What did it say about the Aristotle thing though?
00:07:23.000 Can you go back to that quote where it was?
00:07:25.000 What a huge page.
00:07:28.000 That guy did a lot of shit.
00:07:30.000 It says, until the age of 16, Alexander, by 16, he was too old.
00:07:35.000 Aristotle's like, get out of here, you old fuck.
00:07:37.000 Bring me a young boy.
00:07:39.000 In 335 BC, shortly after his assumption of kingship over Macedon, he campaigned in the Balkans.
00:07:47.000 And reasserted the control over the...
00:07:48.000 how do you say that?
00:07:49.000 Thrace?
00:07:49.000 Thrace.
00:07:50.000 Thrace?
00:07:50.000 And parts of Illyria?
00:07:52.000 Illyria.
00:07:53.000 Illyria.
00:07:54.000 Illyria.
00:07:54.000 You should be saying this.
00:07:56.000 This is your native tongue.
00:07:57.000 This is basically...
00:07:58.000 I went to Greece this summer.
00:07:59.000 How'd you like it?
00:08:00.000 Amazing.
00:08:01.000 Yeah.
00:08:01.000 Your people did some wild shit, dude.
00:08:03.000 Yeah, we did.
00:08:04.000 Your people did some wild shit.
00:08:06.000 We did.
00:08:06.000 When you're in a place where...
00:08:07.000 But like Doug Stanhope said, I didn't do anything.
00:08:09.000 Right.
00:08:10.000 I was on the couch.
00:08:11.000 Your people.
00:08:11.000 I'm saying your people.
00:08:12.000 Your team.
00:08:12.000 Yeah.
00:08:12.000 You know, if the Lakers win, you didn't throw a ball.
00:08:14.000 My tribe.
00:08:15.000 We won, you know?
00:08:16.000 Yeah.
00:08:16.000 The only thing we didn't do is create an empire because we were too busy infighting, which is typically Greek.
00:08:22.000 Well, you know, you can't do everything.
00:08:25.000 Can't do everything.
00:08:26.000 Did a lot more than a lot of other cultures 2,500 years ago.
00:08:29.000 Did a lot with mathematics, philosophy.
00:08:32.000 Democracy.
00:08:32.000 Democracy.
00:08:33.000 Yeah.
00:08:34.000 We did a lot.
00:08:35.000 Yeah, a lot with drugs, too.
00:08:36.000 A lot with drugs, a lot with pedophilia.
00:08:38.000 Have you ever read that book, The Immortality Key?
00:08:42.000 No.
00:08:43.000 It's about the Eleusinian Mysteries.
00:08:45.000 It's this guy Brian Murorescu.
00:08:48.000 And Brian's been a guest on the podcast before, and he's a scholar who is like a straight-laced guy, doesn't do drugs, nothing.
00:08:57.000 And he, through all of his course of study, they were trying to figure out what they were doing in these Illusinian mysteries.
00:09:04.000 Like, why were people going from all over the world to have these experiences?
00:09:07.000 And what were these experiences?
00:09:08.000 So they recently discovered that inside these pottery vessels that they used to contain wine and beer in, they found ergot.
00:09:17.000 And ergot is a very potent psychedelic.
00:09:20.000 It's like a fungus.
00:09:22.000 I think it's akin to LSD. And so they're very, at the very least, we're taking that in this one spot.
00:09:29.000 And what they believe is that all of these transcendent experiences they had, the Illusinian mysteries, they get together and figure out how to solve the world and let people vote and all that wacky, that's all, I'm tripping balls.
00:09:44.000 This is my idea shit.
00:09:46.000 And it's literally the birthplace of democracy.
00:09:48.000 It's literally how the world changed for the better.
00:09:51.000 And your people were doing it 2,500 years ago.
00:09:56.000 And you can walk in the same spots where they walked.
00:09:58.000 You can see the buildings that they built.
00:10:00.000 It's weird.
00:10:01.000 It's weird when shit is that old.
00:10:03.000 Yeah.
00:10:04.000 And you can just walk on it.
00:10:05.000 Yeah.
00:10:05.000 Like the Parthenon.
00:10:06.000 You just walk around.
00:10:07.000 Yeah.
00:10:07.000 And you can marvel at how durable what they built is.
00:10:13.000 2,000 years is so long.
00:10:15.000 There'll be no...
00:10:16.000 Yeah, in 2,000 years from now, you're not going to see any strip malls still standing.
00:10:20.000 They'll literally be dust.
00:10:22.000 They'll be dust.
00:10:23.000 They built things really well back then.
00:10:26.000 I think a hundred...
00:10:27.000 Great effort, too.
00:10:28.000 Yeah.
00:10:28.000 To do that, like the kind of precision that's involved in the Parthenon, when you're walking around it and you see how all the stone is cut and how it lines up and how massive the columns are and how beautifully symmetric it is...
00:10:44.000 It's so smooth and clean.
00:10:46.000 These people, they didn't have engines.
00:10:49.000 No.
00:10:49.000 It's crazy.
00:10:50.000 There was no engine.
00:10:52.000 This was all done by hand.
00:10:54.000 Yeah.
00:10:54.000 It was all dink, dink, dink.
00:10:57.000 Slavery.
00:10:57.000 Dink, dink, dink.
00:10:58.000 Oh, craftsmanship.
00:11:00.000 Yeah.
00:11:00.000 I mean, you weren't just getting the crudest of people.
00:11:02.000 You were getting artisans.
00:11:04.000 Yeah.
00:11:04.000 You probably worked against your will.
00:11:05.000 Yeah.
00:11:06.000 To move those big rocks and stuff, yeah.
00:11:08.000 100%.
00:11:09.000 Who the fuck knows how they did that?
00:11:12.000 What the hell were they doing back then?
00:11:14.000 They did some wild shit back then.
00:11:16.000 When we think about human ingenuity, you go, God, we're missing so much of...
00:11:21.000 They didn't leave...
00:11:23.000 Here's a book on how we did it.
00:11:24.000 This is where we got the rocks.
00:11:25.000 This is how we cut them.
00:11:26.000 This is the best way to move them.
00:11:28.000 If you move them this way, they'll fall on you and you'll kill a few guys.
00:11:31.000 This is what we figured out over time.
00:11:34.000 Yeah.
00:11:35.000 Yeah, it's crazy to think about.
00:11:36.000 And I agree with you.
00:11:37.000 I think it was drugs that opened people's minds up to, like, think about things.
00:11:42.000 Yeah, it gave them a completely different perspective.
00:11:46.000 Like, Carl Sagan once said that about marijuana.
00:11:49.000 I'm paraphrasing him, but essentially he was saying that it offers you a perspective that's not available without the drug.
00:11:56.000 Yeah.
00:11:57.000 That's why I think mushrooms are getting popular for depression, right?
00:12:00.000 It sort of takes you off those grooves that are created by the neuro connections.
00:12:04.000 Yeah.
00:12:04.000 Just gives you a new perspective.
00:12:06.000 I wonder how much, I mean, there's certainly different kinds of depression.
00:12:11.000 There's depression that's clearly something wrong chemically with some people.
00:12:16.000 But how much of it is just from not being healthy?
00:12:20.000 How much of not being healthy with your body and not being healthy with where your life is going?
00:12:25.000 Like what kind of job you have, what you want to do with your life?
00:12:29.000 That's got to be some of it.
00:12:30.000 The friendships you have.
00:12:32.000 All your friends suck.
00:12:33.000 Yeah, that's got to be a big part of it.
00:12:35.000 And I think trauma.
00:12:36.000 I think childhood trauma.
00:12:37.000 I think childhood trauma kind of can make you depressed.
00:12:42.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:12:42.000 Yeah.
00:12:43.000 For sure.
00:12:44.000 I think that...
00:12:44.000 Especially abuse.
00:12:45.000 Yeah.
00:12:46.000 Abuse seems like the one that people have the hardest time shaking because it's not...
00:12:49.000 It wasn't even that they were ignored.
00:12:53.000 It's that someone preyed on them.
00:12:55.000 Yeah.
00:12:56.000 And they have no self-worth.
00:12:58.000 They're beaten.
00:12:59.000 They have no self-worth.
00:13:00.000 And they know that the younger the abuse or the neglect happened, the more of an imprint it leaves because your brain is forming.
00:13:09.000 It's fascinating stuff, man.
00:13:12.000 But we have neuroplasticity and you can go to therapy and EDMR is something I'm doing and it's incredible.
00:13:19.000 It's the only thing I've ever done that sort of works.
00:13:22.000 What is that?
00:13:23.000 EDMR was invented by Francine Shapiro like in the 80s accidentally.
00:13:28.000 She's a psychologist.
00:13:29.000 And now it's become sort of the gold standard for trauma treatment and PTSD and like vet hospitals and stuff.
00:13:36.000 And what it is is it's...
00:13:42.000 Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing.
00:13:48.000 So it involves moving your eyes in a very specific way while you process traumatic memories.
00:13:54.000 Yeah.
00:13:54.000 I'm doing it now.
00:13:56.000 It's crazy.
00:13:57.000 Oh my god, you're hacking your brain.
00:13:59.000 You hack your brain and you get into your subconscious, like your REM sleep state.
00:14:03.000 And then you reprocess the memories.
00:14:05.000 And when you're there, you start having vivid memories.
00:14:08.000 And then when you're done, memories start flying in out of nowhere.
00:14:12.000 Whoa, how did you find out about this?
00:14:14.000 This is wild.
00:14:15.000 It was interesting.
00:14:16.000 I was in LA, right?
00:14:18.000 So I have early childhood trauma, and then I've had some traumatic things happen to me later in life, and then the panic attacks started after I got shot when I was in my early 20s.
00:14:27.000 I didn't know what they were back then.
00:14:30.000 I just didn't know what they were, so I'd just be having these panic attacks on the train, just going like, what is happening to me?
00:14:36.000 So I've been dealing with it for like 20 years, and it would go away for periods.
00:14:39.000 I'd have great periods, and then it would come back, and And after I had kids, I think I called you.
00:14:46.000 I spoke to you once and you were very helpful.
00:14:48.000 But after I had kids, it sort of triggered a lot of these feelings that would come up out of nowhere and sadness.
00:14:57.000 I'd be looking at my kids and I'd get sad.
00:14:59.000 I'd be playing with them.
00:14:59.000 I'd get sad and I didn't understand it.
00:15:02.000 And then I'd be in a hotel room on the road and I'd just start like panicking and I'd be like, what is this?
00:15:09.000 And so I was talking to my friend, Tracy Carnazzo.
00:15:13.000 She's a comic in New York.
00:15:15.000 She's funny.
00:15:16.000 And she's one of these Italian girls who's just got a guy for everything.
00:15:20.000 She's just, you ask her anything.
00:15:21.000 She's like, I know somebody.
00:15:22.000 So she asked, she was like, how are you?
00:15:24.000 And I just answered honestly.
00:15:25.000 I was like, ah, I'm just, and I gave her like a paragraph.
00:15:30.000 And she was like, it sounds like you didn't feel safe as a kid.
00:15:33.000 She was like, let me get you in touch with this person who I'm friends with who does EDMR. And then I got in touch with this therapist, and she's incredible.
00:15:41.000 And I started the EDMR journey, and it's been...
00:15:45.000 It's the only thing I've done.
00:15:46.000 And EDMR has a beginning, middle, and end.
00:15:49.000 It's not like ad infinites.
00:15:51.000 It just goes on forever.
00:15:52.000 It's like you're there to reprocess this trauma.
00:15:55.000 And so do you do it at a specific place?
00:15:57.000 I do it at Zoom.
00:15:58.000 I love to Zoom.
00:15:59.000 You Zoom?
00:16:00.000 Yeah.
00:16:00.000 So you Zoom with someone who guides you through it?
00:16:02.000 Is that how it works?
00:16:03.000 Yeah.
00:16:04.000 And you do it how often?
00:16:05.000 I'm doing it now twice a week.
00:16:07.000 But you can do it once a week.
00:16:08.000 And how long is each session?
00:16:09.000 Hour.
00:16:10.000 She'll go longer sometimes though.
00:16:12.000 Wild.
00:16:13.000 So, do you feel like the chemicals moving around in your brain while you're doing this?
00:16:20.000 Yeah, you do.
00:16:21.000 And that's a big part of it is identifying the trauma in the body and how it affects the body.
00:16:28.000 There's a book called The Body Keeps the Score.
00:16:32.000 I think his name is Bessel.
00:16:33.000 He's a psychiatrist.
00:16:34.000 And he's responsible for all these trauma centers all over the country.
00:16:38.000 So this guy is doing it to this lady right now.
00:16:41.000 He's going back and forth with his fingers.
00:16:43.000 And she's following his fingers.
00:16:44.000 And so she's supposed to be thinking about traumatic memories?
00:16:47.000 So then he'll bring up...
00:16:48.000 He'll take her back through the...
00:16:50.000 The first phase is identifying the trauma.
00:16:52.000 So it's a lot of talk therapy.
00:16:54.000 So you kind of, you know, talk a lot, talk a lot, talk a lot, and then the therapist gets the idea of what you need to go back and reprocess.
00:17:02.000 And new things will come up when you go back, and then you'll reprocess it.
00:17:07.000 It's not just hands.
00:17:07.000 You can follow a ball.
00:17:10.000 You can hold the buzzers in each hand.
00:17:12.000 It's about stimulating both sides of your brain.
00:17:15.000 What's happening in mental health now is so fascinating because...
00:17:19.000 When you parallel it with like what happened in medicine, right?
00:17:22.000 Like we used to treat the symptom, right?
00:17:24.000 So if someone had a fever, they treated the fever, but they didn't know what the cause was.
00:17:27.000 So they put you in cold water or boiling water, whatever they did.
00:17:31.000 And then they found out about viruses and bacteria.
00:17:34.000 So they started treating the cause.
00:17:36.000 Now, in mental health, you're starting to see that revolution because of, you know, the advances in neuroscience where they can look at the brain and they can actually see, you know, what parts are responsible for what, where trauma shows up in the brain.
00:17:51.000 They just did a recent study.
00:17:53.000 It was a big study about how traumatic memories don't come back as memories.
00:17:59.000 Come back.
00:18:00.000 They light up in the part of your brain as if it's happening now, which makes sense.
00:18:04.000 We knew that because, you know, when Vietnam vets start bugging out and they're in the supermarket or whatever, but they can actually see it now in the brain that the brain is processing it as it's happening now.
00:18:15.000 So, you know, converging neuroscience and psychology and all the things that they've known from all these different advances and It seems to be in a place now where trauma is becoming one of the things that they focus on the most,
00:18:32.000 like early childhood trauma or traumatic events.
00:18:35.000 In war, obviously, we know that that's the specific cause of what Is bothering those people, you know, is what they've experienced.
00:18:45.000 And so now they're targeting the trauma, but they have ways to treat the trauma with EDMR, with brain spotting, it's called.
00:18:53.000 You know, a whole bunch of these tactics.
00:18:57.000 That's really fascinating.
00:18:58.000 It's really fascinating when you think, like I had this guy on the podcast yesterday, Joe Pfeiffer.
00:19:03.000 He's an MMA fighter for the UFC. And he had a terrible childhood.
00:19:08.000 Terrible, fucking horrible beatings.
00:19:10.000 Just constant beatings.
00:19:11.000 It's just heartbreaking to hear the story.
00:19:16.000 It's just fascinating as a human being.
00:19:19.000 Whoever you are, were you listening to this right now?
00:19:21.000 You are the accumulation of your processing of every experience you've ever had.
00:19:27.000 As much as we like to claim autonomy, we think on our own, and we kind of do.
00:19:32.000 Again, there's definitely chemical problems.
00:19:34.000 There's definitely people that just have a genetic defect.
00:19:37.000 Just like some people have diseases of all sorts of other parts of their body, they get diseases in the brain.
00:19:42.000 That's fucking for real, 100%.
00:19:44.000 But you're basically just an end product of experiences.
00:19:50.000 And your interpretation of those experiences, and the lessons, and the way you've contextualized all those experiences, and they're all in your head, and that's your map of the world.
00:20:01.000 That's your map of the world.
00:20:02.000 So if you're in San Francisco, yay, we freed pal.
00:20:05.000 Their map of the world is fucked.
00:20:08.000 Their experiences.
00:20:10.000 What's got them to 2024, January 18th, whatever it is, is...
00:20:17.000 This result sucks.
00:20:18.000 This result sucks.
00:20:20.000 Like, this is terrible.
00:20:21.000 Like, you guys are out of your fucking mind.
00:20:23.000 You're wasting your time.
00:20:25.000 There's needles on your street.
00:20:27.000 You guys are out of your fucking mind.
00:20:28.000 What are you doing?
00:20:29.000 This result sucks.
00:20:31.000 But those people are...
00:20:32.000 They could have been in fucking Wyoming.
00:20:35.000 Like, hard-working ranchers.
00:20:36.000 The same human.
00:20:37.000 Could have been, like, a salt-of-the-earth fucking Kevin Costner, Yellowstone-looking motherfucker.
00:20:43.000 Could have been the same...
00:20:44.000 It's just your experiences.
00:20:46.000 Yeah.
00:20:46.000 It's just what shapes you?
00:20:48.000 What directions do you go in?
00:20:50.000 When do you get pushed down?
00:20:51.000 When do you get lifted up?
00:20:52.000 Who gives you a hug?
00:20:53.000 Who pushes you away?
00:20:55.000 Yeah.
00:20:55.000 And how does this play out?
00:20:57.000 Yeah, I don't think a lot of people know themselves because you got to do all this work to know yourself because your brain protects you in so many ways that...
00:21:05.000 You're unaware of.
00:21:06.000 They know in neuroscience, your brain usually, when it's healthy, works in concert and sends information to different parts of your brain to process it.
00:21:14.000 But when you have trauma or a chemical problem or whatever it is, it doesn't work well.
00:21:21.000 And in traumatic experiences, your neocortex shuts off and your limbic turns on.
00:21:29.000 And there's a survival reason for that, right?
00:21:32.000 So if you're in a moment of...
00:21:34.000 Fight or flight, you don't want to start reasoning.
00:21:37.000 You don't want to go like, you start philosophizing.
00:21:39.000 You're just emotional.
00:21:40.000 You're dealing with your survival reptile brain.
00:21:43.000 And so it actually shuts off.
00:21:45.000 So people who have like panic and anxiety, it's hard to reason your way out of it because that part of your brain is shut down.
00:21:52.000 Now imagine you have panic and anxiety already and you're already experiencing depression and then they prescribe to you medication and one of the side effects of that medication is suicide suicidal ideation yeah yeah that's imagine being that person and forced with that choice like this may help you or you might just Yeah.
00:22:19.000 Yeah.
00:22:20.000 Well, medication, yeah, it just...
00:22:22.000 That's a wild one, man.
00:22:23.000 Yeah.
00:22:24.000 Medication is...
00:22:24.000 It can help you.
00:22:25.000 It can help you.
00:22:26.000 But you could also...
00:22:27.000 It can hurt you.
00:22:28.000 You could go sliding down a hill and there's no trees to grab.
00:22:31.000 But every study they do, still till now, medication is not the end-all cure.
00:22:37.000 Like, it just doesn't...
00:22:39.000 It can numb it.
00:22:39.000 It can help you.
00:22:41.000 It's definitely good if you're in, like, a jam, like, if you're really in a bad spot.
00:22:46.000 But when you do the medication, that's when you've got to start doing the work.
00:22:50.000 You can't just do the medication as an end to fix it.
00:22:53.000 But the medication is interfering with the natural system.
00:22:57.000 You know what?
00:22:57.000 I think it's going to be in the future, medication is going to be, like, for mental illness, going to be like leeches.
00:23:03.000 Like, oh, they used to use leeches.
00:23:04.000 They didn't know any better.
00:23:05.000 Oh, they used to just put medicine into people.
00:23:07.000 They used to give them chemicals.
00:23:08.000 Oh, they didn't fix the brain?
00:23:10.000 No, they just did chemicals.
00:23:11.000 Right.
00:23:12.000 Why didn't they do the rewiring?
00:23:13.000 Oh, they hadn't figured it out yet.
00:23:14.000 Yeah.
00:23:15.000 But the fucked up thing is that trauma that you experience as a child or those bad...
00:23:22.000 Well, the trauma is a very overused word.
00:23:24.000 Some people experience real trauma.
00:23:26.000 So let me say this.
00:23:27.000 The negative experiences that you've had, both as an adult and as a child...
00:23:35.000 Those also made you who you are if you're happy with the result.
00:23:38.000 Like, if you're happy with how you're living, you're happy with what you're doing, those things were important to go through, unfortunately.
00:23:45.000 Well, it's nothing you could do about them.
00:23:47.000 It happened.
00:23:47.000 You've got to make the best out of them, and a lot of people do make the best out of them and turn them into something.
00:23:53.000 A lot of people do.
00:23:54.000 It is possible.
00:23:55.000 And trauma's not necessarily the thing that happened to you, it's how you react to the thing that happened to you, I think.
00:24:00.000 And everyone's different.
00:24:01.000 Everyone has a different level of sensitivity and circumstance and genetic code.
00:24:06.000 So I can't really judge anyone's trauma.
00:24:09.000 You could never know how another person feels.
00:24:12.000 You just can't know.
00:24:13.000 You just can't know.
00:24:14.000 Unless you're on TikTok.
00:24:17.000 Then you can know.
00:24:18.000 But yeah, I mean, if the human race has a chance, I think people need to start looking inward.
00:24:22.000 Why am I really doing what I'm doing?
00:24:24.000 Who am I really?
00:24:26.000 What is this really about?
00:24:28.000 Also, this is so temporary.
00:24:29.000 We're treating it like it's permanent.
00:24:31.000 It's so temporary.
00:24:32.000 You're treating your own life like it's permanent, and it's so temporary.
00:24:37.000 I've noticed a lot of successful friends I have and a lot of successful people are so scared to just be happy because I think there's like this deep fear of losing it.
00:24:45.000 Yeah, that's real.
00:24:47.000 So it's like if I stay miserable I don't gotta focus on the fear of losing it.
00:24:51.000 Yeah, that's real.
00:24:51.000 Because we all lose it at the end.
00:24:53.000 It's that and it's also you have a We're good to go.
00:25:12.000 Nobody likes my music.
00:25:14.000 My movies suck.
00:25:15.000 Yeah, that fear, it's crippling.
00:25:18.000 It's crippling fear.
00:25:19.000 It's such a crazy fear.
00:25:21.000 Yeah, it's funny the way things are set up here.
00:25:24.000 It's just funny.
00:25:26.000 It's like, hey, enjoy yourself, accumulate all this stuff, but you have this knowledge because we have these big brains.
00:25:32.000 You lose it all.
00:25:33.000 It's all going away.
00:25:33.000 It's all gone.
00:25:35.000 Sinatra said that about everything he has.
00:25:37.000 They were giving him a hard time for giving away so much money and giving people things.
00:25:41.000 And he's like, this is not mine.
00:25:44.000 I'm renting this.
00:25:45.000 It's going to be gone.
00:25:46.000 Comedy makes everything okay.
00:25:50.000 That's why I think...
00:25:51.000 It makes it more fun.
00:25:53.000 It makes everything okay.
00:25:54.000 It conquers everything.
00:25:56.000 It means when you have a good sense of humor and when you're laughing in the right way, not just cackling by yourself in a room, but it just means you're mentally healthy.
00:26:04.000 It's a sign of mental health and strength when you can laugh...
00:26:07.000 At horrible things.
00:26:08.000 That's the way you conquer them.
00:26:09.000 Yeah.
00:26:10.000 It's also a sign that you're recognizing nuance and you're playing with it.
00:26:14.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 Like, it doesn't mean that you really think that this tragedy is great.
00:26:17.000 Right.
00:26:18.000 You just find something horrible to say that's hilarious about the tragedy.
00:26:23.000 And sometimes you can only do that with your friends.
00:26:25.000 You can only do that at a deli.
00:26:26.000 Yeah.
00:26:28.000 You can only do that having dinner at one o'clock in the morning, just talking shit.
00:26:32.000 Yeah.
00:26:32.000 Making each other laugh.
00:26:33.000 Yeah.
00:26:34.000 But that's also a thing that I think we're really lucky about.
00:26:38.000 That's our big gift.
00:26:39.000 Our big gift is each other.
00:26:41.000 Like, as comedians, you know, I spend time with a lot of different people and a lot of, you know, different occupations, and I always can't wait to get back to comedians.
00:26:52.000 I always can't wait to get back to the green room with the mothership.
00:26:55.000 Can't wait to do sets on the road.
00:26:57.000 It's just the conversations are so much more fun.
00:27:01.000 They're so fun.
00:27:02.000 Yeah, you can say anything.
00:27:03.000 And it's just fun.
00:27:05.000 Everyone's just being funny and smiling and realizing, wow, we're so lucky.
00:27:09.000 We used to be open mic night comedians, and now here we are about to go do a sold-out show.
00:27:14.000 We're having dinner together at a restaurant and laughing.
00:27:17.000 And then you go have fun.
00:27:18.000 Yay!
00:27:18.000 And then the people have fun.
00:27:19.000 Yay!
00:27:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:27:21.000 It's beautiful.
00:27:22.000 It's the ultimate connection.
00:27:23.000 And the amount of love that you get back and forth, like the amount of love a comic gets, the amount of love they give, the positive energy both for and back, that's like very few people get to experience that in life.
00:27:37.000 Yeah.
00:27:38.000 It's the only place that comedians can get it.
00:27:41.000 It's from other comedians.
00:27:42.000 Because we're jaded.
00:27:44.000 It's harder for...
00:27:46.000 Also, we can speak so freely.
00:27:48.000 You can go, there's this fucking bit that's just dead.
00:27:51.000 It's got a thing, and it goes somewhere, and then it drops off.
00:27:55.000 And I don't know what the fuck to do with it.
00:27:56.000 I've been trying to...
00:27:57.000 Monkey around with different ways to say it and switch and they're like hmmm and then everybody will sit around and analyze it and we'll like analyze each other's bits and like you know you don't have to say that part everybody already knows that if you cut that out it's shorter you're right why did I say that part and then you know everybody just starts tinkering with stuff and you can just like openly tinker yeah with like phrases and ideas and setups yeah it's like a it's so much fun it's like architects sitting with their Contractors
00:28:28.000 figuring it out.
00:28:29.000 Yeah.
00:28:30.000 If you got a good relationship with a contractor.
00:28:31.000 Yeah.
00:28:32.000 I would imagine the architects and the contractors squabble a lot.
00:28:34.000 They do.
00:28:35.000 I'm going through that right now.
00:28:36.000 Are you?
00:28:36.000 We're putting an addition on our house.
00:28:37.000 And yeah, they squabble.
00:28:38.000 And I'm like, who do I trust?
00:28:39.000 The architect or the contractor?
00:28:40.000 Oh no.
00:28:42.000 It's a power struggle for Giannis Papas love.
00:28:45.000 You get in the middle.
00:28:46.000 And it's funny because I don't know anything.
00:28:48.000 So you just got...
00:28:49.000 You're at the mercy of...
00:28:51.000 You're just so vulnerable.
00:28:52.000 Yeah.
00:28:52.000 I don't know anything about what they're talking about.
00:28:55.000 And I'm like, just trying to look in their eyes and figure out which one's more honest.
00:28:59.000 And I have no clue.
00:28:59.000 It's just a guess.
00:29:00.000 Yeah.
00:29:02.000 That was someone who was telling me that about the World Trade Center.
00:29:04.000 They were saying, you know, the World Trade Center was designed to be hit by a jet plane.
00:29:08.000 And I don't know if they're right.
00:29:10.000 But what they were saying is, do you know how much corruption there is in construction?
00:29:16.000 Yeah.
00:29:16.000 And I was like, no, how much?
00:29:17.000 They go, oh...
00:29:19.000 Say if it's supposed to get five bolts, if you only use four, do you know how much money you save over a whole building?
00:29:25.000 If you make the steel that thick instead of that thick, do you know which money you save?
00:29:31.000 If it calls for like half-inch this but you use quarter-inch that, do you know how much money you save?
00:29:36.000 You gotta pay off the inspectors and all that, I guess.
00:29:38.000 I guess?
00:29:39.000 Are they really inspecting everything?
00:29:42.000 Uh, yeah.
00:29:42.000 How does that work?
00:29:43.000 Yeah, you cross your fingers.
00:29:45.000 I don't know if that's the case.
00:29:48.000 But my point was always like, how the fuck do you know what's going to happen to a building until a plane slams into it and you get to watch?
00:29:56.000 Right.
00:29:57.000 Because there's never been a skyscraper that got hit by a plane before.
00:30:00.000 Which makes it interesting.
00:30:01.000 You can't say, this is not how it should have happened.
00:30:04.000 We have zero idea what it looks like other than 9-11 when jets slam into skyscrapers.
00:30:11.000 A plane hit the Empire State Building.
00:30:13.000 Big one.
00:30:15.000 When was that?
00:30:16.000 The 40...
00:30:17.000 Was it a propeller plane?
00:30:19.000 No, it was a big plane.
00:30:20.000 Like a jet?
00:30:20.000 Yeah.
00:30:21.000 Really?
00:30:22.000 Yeah.
00:30:22.000 How bad did it fuck it up?
00:30:24.000 It slammed right into it.
00:30:25.000 Didn't do shit to it?
00:30:26.000 B-25 in 1945. Wow, that's crazy.
00:30:30.000 Yeah.
00:30:31.000 So listen to pictures, I guess.
00:30:34.000 And the buildings fell not because the plane hit it.
00:30:37.000 Oh, shit.
00:30:38.000 Yeah.
00:30:38.000 So that's a big-ass old-school plane.
00:30:41.000 Yeah.
00:30:42.000 Yeah, so it's a propeller plane.
00:30:46.000 Wow.
00:30:47.000 Where did it hit?
00:30:49.000 Bang, right there.
00:30:50.000 Wow.
00:30:51.000 79th floor.
00:30:53.000 And it didn't take it out?
00:30:54.000 No.
00:30:55.000 They're built not to.
00:30:56.000 Is that commensurate, though?
00:30:58.000 Like, how did it hit?
00:30:59.000 Did it hit just the wing?
00:31:01.000 Was the guy trying to pull out?
00:31:02.000 No.
00:31:02.000 But look at that.
00:31:03.000 Definitely no jet fuel in there.
00:31:05.000 What's that?
00:31:05.000 Yeah, no jet fuel.
00:31:06.000 Yeah.
00:31:07.000 No jet fuel.
00:31:08.000 Because the heat from the jet fuel is what took down the Trade Center.
00:31:11.000 Not the plane impact, so they say.
00:31:13.000 So they say.
00:31:14.000 So they say.
00:31:15.000 Yeah.
00:31:16.000 But you know what they are, right?
00:31:18.000 I mean, well, you know, they did.
00:31:19.000 I don't know who they are.
00:31:20.000 I was hoping I could just sneak that in.
00:31:22.000 I wanted to get into that real soon with something like...
00:31:24.000 Alex will tell you.
00:31:25.000 Who is that?
00:31:25.000 Depending on what you're talking about.
00:31:26.000 Let's go to dinner with Alex.
00:31:27.000 Let's go to dinner with Alex.
00:31:28.000 He's been freaking me out lately.
00:31:30.000 The 9-11 is...
00:31:31.000 It's interesting to me.
00:31:33.000 People ruin it by coming up with what they think happened instead of just stopping at, hey, it's fishy.
00:31:39.000 It's fishy.
00:31:39.000 It's a little weird just stopping there because you can't know what the actual conspiracy was, but there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense on 9-11.
00:31:51.000 Well, whenever you run into a situation where there's a gigantic worldwide disastrous event, like that's an event that the whole world knew about, but you lie about some aspects of it.
00:32:05.000 Like, one of the things was, what did the United States get caught lying about Saudi Arabia, about their involvement early on with funding?
00:32:15.000 Yeah, they ignored it.
00:32:16.000 I mean, the Bin Laden family was flown out before.
00:32:19.000 Weird stuff.
00:32:20.000 Weird stuff.
00:32:20.000 Weird stuff.
00:32:21.000 Weird stuff.
00:32:21.000 It's like, what if I wanted to do that?
00:32:23.000 Would you be mad?
00:32:24.000 Yeah.
00:32:25.000 What if I had some fucking dudes from Afghanistan staying in my house, and right after some shit went down, I illegally flew them out of the country?
00:32:32.000 Listen, it's cool.
00:32:34.000 It's cool.
00:32:34.000 That sounds like what a criminal would do.
00:32:36.000 That's right.
00:32:37.000 That sounds like what a criminal would do.
00:32:39.000 Look, if I was running cocaine with the Colombians, and right before the FBI came, I fucking shot some planes illegally filled with coke back to Colombia, I'm like, listen, none of the time.
00:32:52.000 Don't worry about it.
00:32:53.000 It's okay.
00:32:53.000 This guy's good.
00:32:54.000 But you're not allowed to fly right now.
00:32:56.000 It's okay.
00:32:57.000 It's okay.
00:32:58.000 It's just criminal.
00:33:00.000 It's just criminal enterprise.
00:33:02.000 It's okay.
00:33:02.000 It's okay.
00:33:03.000 We're just going to fly.
00:33:04.000 We're not going to tell you.
00:33:05.000 We're going to take the family of the dude who set this up, and we're going to just fly.
00:33:09.000 We're going to get them all out.
00:33:10.000 Shut the fuck up.
00:33:11.000 Shut the fuck up.
00:33:12.000 Hey, shouldn't we keep them here and investigate?
00:33:14.000 It seems like there was some sort of a connection with Saudi Arabia.
00:33:17.000 Shut the fuck up.
00:33:19.000 What about Iraq?
00:33:20.000 They have weapons of war.
00:33:21.000 They're gonna kill us all.
00:33:22.000 We're gonna all be dead unless we get in there right now.
00:33:24.000 Let's go.
00:33:25.000 Yeah.
00:33:26.000 It's sort of like with the Epstein thing.
00:33:27.000 It's like, isn't...
00:33:28.000 I just call her Gasoline because I hate pronouncing her first name.
00:33:31.000 Ghislaine.
00:33:32.000 Ghislaine.
00:33:32.000 Yeah, why not...
00:33:33.000 How come there's no...
00:33:34.000 They're not interrogating her?
00:33:35.000 How come they're not...
00:33:36.000 She's just sitting there and they're like leaking these slow leaks about...
00:33:40.000 Well, it's even crazier than that.
00:33:41.000 It's like, talk to her!
00:33:42.000 They have her!
00:33:44.000 Is nobody asking her any questions?
00:33:46.000 Like...
00:33:47.000 She knows everything!
00:33:48.000 Torture her!
00:33:49.000 We can't ask her any questions.
00:33:52.000 It's not proper.
00:33:54.000 And how is she just sitting in her mansion, like, while this was all going down, she's just sitting there.
00:33:58.000 They can't find her.
00:33:59.000 She hasn't been arrested.
00:34:00.000 She was in a cabin in New Hampshire.
00:34:02.000 Yeah, you can find Bin Laden, but you can't find Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:34:05.000 Well, they found her.
00:34:06.000 Yeah, they found her after a while.
00:34:08.000 Well, she's so low.
00:34:09.000 You know, Bin Laden had a whole network of people protecting him.
00:34:13.000 Yeah.
00:34:13.000 I guess.
00:34:14.000 Yeah.
00:34:15.000 Well, the craziest theory is that they didn't shoot Bin Laden.
00:34:18.000 They shot Bin Laden's double.
00:34:20.000 That's why they got rid of it.
00:34:21.000 Like, there's so many wacko fucking flat earth conspiracy theories out there about everything.
00:34:27.000 Yeah, but some of them are not.
00:34:28.000 Yeah, some of them are just because people have access to information now and they go, wait a second.
00:34:33.000 You know what I also think cynically?
00:34:35.000 Yeah.
00:34:35.000 I think there's a lot of really dumb ones, and there's a lot of ones that are like a little smarter than dumb, and then there's a lot of ones that are really smart, and there's a lot of ones that are like, oh my god, if this is true, this changes everything, and they all lump them in together.
00:34:50.000 It's genius.
00:34:51.000 It's genius.
00:34:52.000 Because if you only look at the ones that are like, the Federal Reserve isn't federal?
00:34:56.000 Wait a minute.
00:34:57.000 Where is it?
00:34:58.000 What the fuck's going on?
00:35:00.000 When you just look at one or two of those, it's so confounding that that's actually taking place right now.
00:35:08.000 That you need a little flat earth throat in there, a little fucking Pizzagate, a little Hillary Clinton's laptop, they're eating babies, you know?
00:35:17.000 So you can sneak in Epstein's Island.
00:35:19.000 That was a real place, man.
00:35:21.000 That was a real place.
00:35:23.000 And the way a place like that can kind of fly under the radar is if there's a bunch of fake stuff.
00:35:30.000 Don't go to Antarctica.
00:35:31.000 There's an alien base.
00:35:33.000 The more nutty shit they can get you to think about, the more real things you should be really concerned about sneak through.
00:35:41.000 Yeah.
00:35:41.000 Do you think that's intentional or do you think people just spiral with other stuff?
00:35:46.000 Both.
00:35:46.000 Both things.
00:35:47.000 I think it's both probably.
00:35:47.000 It's both.
00:35:48.000 Yeah.
00:35:48.000 But they're playing on the – even if the government wasn't encouraging people to go insane, they would still go insane.
00:35:54.000 They would still have conspiracy theories.
00:35:55.000 But without a doubt, foreign governments are on TikTok and on Instagram and on Facebook, and they are influencing people to go in a very specific direction.
00:36:07.000 And how much of a percentage is it?
00:36:09.000 If their algorithm encourages, like, transpositive content, how much does that move the public narrative?
00:36:18.000 It's not zero.
00:36:19.000 It's not zero.
00:36:20.000 So if you've got two ships, and they're both going in the same direction, parallel lines, And I can turn this one ship just like that, just a little bit.
00:36:29.000 I just need like a couple of degrees of turn.
00:36:30.000 Over time, that motherfucker's gonna be way off course.
00:36:34.000 Way off course!
00:36:36.000 I think that's happening.
00:36:38.000 For fucking sure.
00:36:40.000 That's the way war is waged now.
00:36:42.000 And it's also happening with people that think they're doing the right thing.
00:36:46.000 Like we were talking about Google the other day and like how YouTube censors things.
00:36:51.000 They think they're doing the right thing.
00:36:54.000 Is this true that Gas Digitals, all their stuff, got taken off the air?
00:37:01.000 I think they got taken down again on YouTube, I think, yeah.
00:37:04.000 You mean their website and everything?
00:37:06.000 No, their YouTube page.
00:37:08.000 Yeah, they got taken down again, yeah.
00:37:10.000 There's one video where this comic that works with Lewis was saying that all they were doing in this podcast is talking about how big a guy's dick was.
00:37:19.000 This guy had a giant hog.
00:37:21.000 They were talking about this guy.
00:37:22.000 And they got their shit removed for that.
00:37:25.000 It's up now.
00:37:26.000 It's back.
00:37:27.000 It's a different page.
00:37:28.000 So it's back.
00:37:29.000 The specials and stuff.
00:37:31.000 So what were they saying?
00:37:33.000 Maybe I'm looking at something, maybe it was a clip of something that happened in the past?
00:37:37.000 Yeah, I don't know the specifics of it at all.
00:37:39.000 It was one of those...
00:37:41.000 It was either an Instagram reel or one of them YouTube shorts, you know, one of those things like that?
00:37:46.000 Yeah.
00:37:46.000 He was talking about how they took it down because he was talking about how big a dude's hog was.
00:37:50.000 Yeah, that doesn't seem...
00:37:51.000 Oh, it's bullying.
00:37:52.000 Yeah.
00:37:53.000 Even his big dick.
00:37:54.000 When you're talking about Jeffrey Epstein's island, a lot of people don't talk about his ranch in New Mexico.
00:37:59.000 Yeah, and his mansion.
00:38:00.000 I mean, it was popping off at all his spots.
00:38:03.000 He built a 26,700 square foot mansion with a sprawling courtyard and a living room roughly the size of the American home.
00:38:11.000 Nearby was a private airstrip with a hanger and helipad.
00:38:15.000 The property also included a ranch office, a firehouse, and a seven-bay heated garage.
00:38:20.000 Yeah, that sounds like an intelligence agent, right out of a fucking movie, luring all the politicians into the honeypot.
00:38:28.000 And how many people died because of that?
00:38:31.000 We're never gonna know.
00:38:33.000 They're never gonna let us, we'll never know.
00:38:34.000 What a fucking genius con.
00:38:38.000 Yeah.
00:38:38.000 What a genius con.
00:38:39.000 You get some guy, you say he's a billionaire, you just give him like a fucking blank checkbook, which when you're spending a hundred and seventy billion on Ukraine and a hundred and thirty six billion here and forty six billion there, we gotta upgrade that and just let these people in and that cost thirty trillion,
00:38:55.000 like fucking What's a billion?
00:38:58.000 That's right, yeah.
00:38:58.000 What's a billion to control literally the greatest scientists and entertainers and politicians?
00:39:05.000 And just get them all convinced.
00:39:07.000 Yeah.
00:39:07.000 Look, Bill's here.
00:39:08.000 Look, look who's here.
00:39:10.000 Stephen Hawking's here.
00:39:11.000 Look, this guy's here.
00:39:13.000 Look, the Nobel laureate's here.
00:39:14.000 Look at all these brilliant, esteemed scientists.
00:39:16.000 Look at these amazing conversations.
00:39:18.000 Look how beautiful these women are.
00:39:21.000 So everybody says that if you went there, you'd be a real piece of shit.
00:39:25.000 If you're going to a place where, I mean, what is the actual list?
00:39:31.000 Who's on the actual list?
00:39:33.000 You know, there's some pretty fascinating people.
00:39:36.000 If you got invited to that party, you didn't know what the fuck was going on.
00:39:40.000 Magician David Copperfield reappears.
00:39:42.000 Jeffrey Epstein, poof, reappears.
00:39:46.000 With lawyers suggesting he traded tickets for girls.
00:39:50.000 Tickets for his shows?
00:39:51.000 Is this show that hot?
00:39:53.000 Jesus Christ, how cheap are these girls?
00:39:56.000 Because how much does these tickets to a show cost?
00:39:59.000 I don't know.
00:39:59.000 I don't know the magic hierarchy.
00:40:02.000 Talk about overvaluing what you're worth.
00:40:04.000 Yeah.
00:40:05.000 If you give me a sex slave, I'll give you tickets to my show.
00:40:07.000 I'll give you tickets to my magic show.
00:40:09.000 Not even a Criss Angel show, either.
00:40:11.000 But what a brilliant move if you can...
00:40:16.000 I mean, here's...
00:40:17.000 Okay, question number one.
00:40:18.000 Were they all underage?
00:40:20.000 Were some of them of age?
00:40:23.000 Like, do we know how that worked?
00:40:25.000 Because even if they weren't under...
00:40:26.000 Underage is the best.
00:40:27.000 If you want to get some blackmail, that's the best.
00:40:29.000 But you still bust quite a few guys with of age.
00:40:32.000 Oh, yeah.
00:40:33.000 Especially if you're giving them a little yayo.
00:40:36.000 Yeah.
00:40:36.000 We're on an island.
00:40:37.000 You ain't gonna do no yayo.
00:40:38.000 There's no rules.
00:40:39.000 Yeah.
00:40:39.000 Woo!
00:40:40.000 We're the elite.
00:40:42.000 We're the fucking Illuminati, boo.
00:40:44.000 I am!
00:40:46.000 Yeah, just cheating on your wife is enough.
00:40:48.000 Enough.
00:40:49.000 That's enough.
00:40:49.000 We're publicly having it so that they can trot it out there.
00:40:54.000 Anytime there's an election, anytime there's this, or there's a vote they want you to vote in one way or another way, they always have that.
00:41:01.000 Always have that.
00:41:02.000 Just a little reminder out there.
00:41:03.000 You just keep that fucking thing in the back of your head like, I gotta shut the fuck up and toe the line.
00:41:07.000 I gotta shut the fuck up and toe the line.
00:41:09.000 There's no better way to control someone.
00:41:11.000 No better way.
00:41:11.000 And it's...
00:41:13.000 It's so brilliant and ancient.
00:41:16.000 It's like an ancient strategy, you know?
00:41:19.000 And it was...
00:41:21.000 First of all, is there another one going on right now that we don't know about?
00:41:24.000 Of course!
00:41:24.000 Like, at that level?
00:41:26.000 Of course!
00:41:26.000 It seems like that guy was like...
00:41:27.000 So effective, why would you stop?
00:41:28.000 Like, yeah.
00:41:29.000 I think you need a combination of things to do it at that guy's level.
00:41:33.000 By all accounts, he was a brilliant guy.
00:41:37.000 Which is wild, right?
00:41:38.000 And you have to be also a sick fuck Which he obviously was.
00:41:43.000 And also an intelligence agent.
00:41:47.000 So do you just become that sick fuck over the course of, like, you know, you hear about DEA agents, they start dealing drugs.
00:41:55.000 Once they get in there, they're like undercover, and then they fucking live the life, and they start actually dealing drugs.
00:42:02.000 It happens.
00:42:03.000 Yeah.
00:42:03.000 Do you think, like, maybe the guy just became a fucking sociopath, psychopath?
00:42:08.000 So fascinating.
00:42:08.000 From just dealing with the life that he was...
00:42:11.000 That's his job.
00:42:12.000 His job is to trick politicians into fucking underage girls and get them coked up and bring them into this place that's cameras everywhere.
00:42:20.000 These fucking idiots don't know that there's going to be cameras everywhere.
00:42:23.000 And you set this up?
00:42:25.000 And this is what you do for a living for 30 years or however long he did it?
00:42:29.000 It's fascinating to think about.
00:42:30.000 I think two things.
00:42:31.000 I think...
00:42:33.000 Everyone wants to be someone, right?
00:42:35.000 Everyone wants to be someone, have an exciting life.
00:42:39.000 And then I think people have a myriad of, they have a, you know, just your moral compass from your family, whatever's on a scale.
00:42:49.000 So that's a factor.
00:42:50.000 And then, but the more important factor is everyone has those moments in their life where things are offered to them, you know?
00:42:56.000 And you know, you go this way, You're going to get some exciting stuff, but you're going to have to compromise your moral compass, and people make that decision.
00:43:06.000 Fame and power, it's like the ultimate elixir.
00:43:11.000 It's also the people that you're around.
00:43:13.000 Because we were talking about, we love being around comics.
00:43:16.000 It's fun.
00:43:17.000 It's our lifestyle.
00:43:19.000 It's how we like to talk.
00:43:20.000 They like being around other sociopaths.
00:43:24.000 They like being around other people that are taking over businesses.
00:43:27.000 Hostile takeovers.
00:43:29.000 They like to be around the guys who influence foreign governments.
00:43:33.000 The guys who fly over in private jets and sit with their legs crossed with Italian shoes on.
00:43:40.000 And they have conversations about clean energy.
00:43:44.000 What they really want to do is control all the fucking food.
00:43:47.000 Control the farmlands.
00:43:49.000 You know, we have to reduce the methane from these cows and the best way to do it is just to take the cows away from the farmers.
00:43:56.000 If we just control the cows.
00:43:58.000 If we have a climate change mandate and we control the farms, I mean, it's basically game over.
00:44:04.000 They're literally doing that.
00:44:05.000 All bad guys have a British accent.
00:44:07.000 There's no reason why you would say we shouldn't have cows unless you're a fucking complete sociopath.
00:44:15.000 You're not going after the coal plants first.
00:44:17.000 No, you want people to get rid of cows?
00:44:20.000 Are you sure this is a good strategy?
00:44:23.000 Do you understand starvation?
00:44:25.000 Do you understand how that works?
00:44:26.000 You're not gonna grow cows, are you?
00:44:28.000 No, you need someone to grow cows.
00:44:30.000 And you're gonna take their cows away?
00:44:33.000 The fuck out of here.
00:44:35.000 Yeah, why would they want to get rid of cows?
00:44:36.000 Because they want you to be completely dependent on them.
00:44:41.000 The more you're dependent on them, and the more they can tell you what's good and what's bad, and what you shouldn't be doing.
00:44:47.000 And, Giannis, we looked at your carbon footprint.
00:44:50.000 Your carbon footprint is very problematic.
00:44:52.000 It seems like in your job of stand-up comedy, you travel more than the average person, and you contribute more CO2. And they show you a video of all, and we're going to have to get you to stop.
00:45:05.000 It's like for the greater good.
00:45:06.000 For the greater good.
00:45:09.000 It has some benefits.
00:45:10.000 Social credit scores have a benefit.
00:45:12.000 Things are cleaner.
00:45:13.000 They run a little more orderly.
00:45:14.000 Sure.
00:45:15.000 You have to listen or you can't eat.
00:45:17.000 It's horrible.
00:45:18.000 It's a nightmare.
00:45:19.000 But, you know, there is some...
00:45:20.000 Things do run better.
00:45:23.000 Well, it runs better for the government.
00:45:25.000 You have less dissent because you kill people.
00:45:27.000 I mean, China's doing a great job of showing how you can run it.
00:45:30.000 You can run it.
00:45:31.000 Yeah, they're just doing it.
00:45:32.000 It's a nice, tight ship over there.
00:45:33.000 Nobody's jaywalking.
00:45:35.000 That's how you make an iPhone.
00:45:36.000 That's how you make an iPhone over there.
00:45:38.000 You get people to follow rules.
00:45:41.000 If that comes over here, that's the end of creativity.
00:45:45.000 That's the end of everything.
00:45:47.000 Because you're just going to have to shut the fuck up.
00:45:48.000 You're going to have to toe the line.
00:45:50.000 And we all already know that the line is nonsense.
00:45:53.000 We know that the line is not really intelligent people that are assessing objectively what's going on in the world and giving you a reasonable version of the events.
00:46:04.000 We know that's not really what we're seeing in the media.
00:46:08.000 We're seeing people that are deeply influenced by advertising budgets, by what kind of companies advertise on their shows, by the investors who own stock in the company.
00:46:22.000 It's there's narratives and they're not necessarily even remotely honest, right?
00:46:28.000 Like sometimes they're off the charts fake Right.
00:46:33.000 Right.
00:46:34.000 And they get printed in major newspapers.
00:46:38.000 Some of the propaganda in the beginning of the Hamas war was that these Israelis bombed a hospital and 500 people were killed.
00:46:47.000 It was printed in the New York Times.
00:46:48.000 I remember that.
00:46:48.000 They didn't hit the hospital.
00:46:49.000 They hit the parking lot next to the hospital.
00:46:51.000 I think a lot of that is the rush, too, to get to the story first, because there's so much competition.
00:46:55.000 Everyone's just putting things out.
00:46:57.000 Nobody cares about the retraction anyway.
00:46:59.000 Well, also, that's a juicy story.
00:47:03.000 If Israel really did bomb a hospital, oh my God, this is genocide.
00:47:07.000 It really helps that narrative.
00:47:09.000 I was watching this documentary last night, and the media did that to this couple, because the movie Gone Girl was out at the time, so they just started calling her Gone Girl, and she made up this Whole story of being kidnapped.
00:47:20.000 She did get kidnapped.
00:47:21.000 She did get raped.
00:47:22.000 But the media was just making fun of her, calling her Gone Girl because it's a juicier story.
00:47:27.000 They just ran with it.
00:47:29.000 The police department, too, was all convinced that she was a Gone Girl.
00:47:33.000 People just...
00:47:34.000 Marketing and advertising and subterfuge, it works.
00:47:39.000 It just works.
00:47:39.000 That's why advertisers spend billions of dollars on it.
00:47:42.000 You ever seen Nancy Pelosi talking about it?
00:47:44.000 Openly.
00:47:44.000 Talk about the wrap-up smear.
00:47:46.000 No.
00:47:47.000 You know, Nancy's been in politics for a long time.
00:47:51.000 She's been a long time.
00:47:51.000 And she's a genius with her money.
00:47:53.000 She's very good.
00:47:54.000 She beats the market a lot.
00:47:55.000 It's amazing that someone who's never made more than $170,000 a year is worth $150 million.
00:48:01.000 Yeah.
00:48:01.000 And she does better investing in the stock market than Warren Buffett or George Soros.
00:48:05.000 Yeah, she's always beaten the market.
00:48:07.000 So I don't know what happened.
00:48:08.000 Maybe she had a senior moment and she just started explaining how you lie.
00:48:13.000 I mean, this can't be AI, is it?
00:48:15.000 I think it's real, because it's from a couple of years ago.
00:48:17.000 It's called the wrap-up smear.
00:48:19.000 Yeah, there's an AP assessment that says it's been taken out of context.
00:48:24.000 I was trying to get to what the context is.
00:48:26.000 What context could it be?
00:48:27.000 She's describing a wrap-up smear.
00:48:30.000 The assessment says she was describing a tactic she accused Republicans of against Democrats.
00:48:37.000 In other portions of her response, not showing the clip, Pelosi makes it clear she is not talking about her own party.
00:48:43.000 Oh, I don't think, I don't necessarily think she's talking about anyone in particular.
00:48:46.000 What I'm saying is that what she revealed is that there's a, it's a play.
00:48:51.000 You know, like if you're a football player and they call a play, you know that play.
00:48:56.000 You know, like our callback in stand-up comedy.
00:48:59.000 This is what she's doing.
00:48:59.000 She's talking business.
00:49:00.000 She's talking business.
00:49:02.000 I'm not saying she's even accusing anybody of this.
00:49:04.000 The claim was that it was.
00:49:05.000 The claim was saying that it's how the Democrats get the media to legitimize lies.
00:49:09.000 Oh, okay.
00:49:10.000 But what was fascinating to me about it was just this open admittance that it's all bullshit.
00:49:17.000 Just saying, like, not decrying this thing and saying it's a genuine problem with communication, that we have deception, and it's tolerated, and that it's not punished, and, like, willful deception like this.
00:49:30.000 And there's a thing called a wrap-up smear, and this is a horrible thing that they do.
00:49:33.000 It wasn't that!
00:49:34.000 It was like, this is how it's done!
00:49:36.000 Right.
00:49:37.000 Watch it.
00:49:37.000 Here, play it from the beginning.
00:49:39.000 ...video, I think.
00:49:42.000 Stop.
00:49:44.000 Audio.
00:49:44.000 Flip.
00:49:45.000 You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest, and then you merchandise it.
00:49:52.000 And then you write it, and they'll say, see, it's reported in the press that this, this, this, and this, so they have that validation.
00:50:02.000 What's going on?
00:50:03.000 The news person's about to start talking.
00:50:04.000 That's why I was trying to cut it off unless you want to hear her.
00:50:06.000 The assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh.
00:50:08.000 This is where I was trying to not get too confused on what Okay, so they were connecting it to the assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh that tried to keep him out of the Supreme Court, right?
00:50:16.000 Is that what the Fox News story was trying to do?
00:50:19.000 Five years ago when this was posted.
00:50:20.000 Yeah.
00:50:21.000 But what I was getting at was just that she's describing a tactic.
00:50:25.000 This is what we do.
00:50:27.000 We fake, and then Johnny comes into the right.
00:50:31.000 I pass off the football to him.
00:50:32.000 He sneaks around behind me.
00:50:34.000 We run through the fucking line.
00:50:36.000 Let's go!
00:50:37.000 She's talking business.
00:50:39.000 Yeah.
00:50:39.000 Even if she's not saying that the Democrats do it, this is how we do it, she's talking business.
00:50:44.000 Yes, yes.
00:50:45.000 And that's how it works.
00:50:46.000 And she's not horrified.
00:50:48.000 Imagine if you were in that same position and you had been given information.
00:50:51.000 For whatever reason, the current administration thinks Giannis Papas, let's have a very smart, funny guy, and he's going to be the guy that kind of explains what's going on.
00:51:00.000 And you have to explain what a wrap-up smear is.
00:51:03.000 Yes.
00:51:04.000 Would you not feel like morally obligated to say something about how atrocious activity like this is when it comes to critical decisions that people are making?
00:51:16.000 People that are probably not that informed, people that are going through their day busy, they have jobs, they have bills, they have stress, they have all kinds of stuff going on.
00:51:25.000 They don't have enough time to pay attention.
00:51:29.000 To what's going on with that Supreme Court guy.
00:51:30.000 So if you're like openly discussing strategies where you would deceive people in order to get a narrative passed that's clearly untrue because you don't want that guy in office politically.
00:51:44.000 And that's not horrific to people.
00:51:47.000 That is anti-American.
00:51:49.000 It really is.
00:51:50.000 And you can think you're doing it because you're a good American, but that's how communism gets started.
00:51:56.000 That's how dictators take over.
00:51:59.000 They come up with justification for why they can bend the rules.
00:52:02.000 The rules are the fucking rules.
00:52:05.000 Yeah, once you compromise the rules, that's...
00:52:08.000 You gotta let people vote.
00:52:10.000 Yeah.
00:52:10.000 You gotta let people...
00:52:11.000 There should be, and I think...
00:52:13.000 There's gotta be a good news...
00:52:15.000 What is that?
00:52:16.000 1440 News?
00:52:17.000 Is that what it's called?
00:52:18.000 I don't even know what that is.
00:52:19.000 There's some news site that is...
00:52:22.000 There's a company...
00:52:23.000 I think that's the name of it.
00:52:24.000 I signed up for it.
00:52:25.000 I don't even remember what it is.
00:52:26.000 They're trying to just give you facts with no narrative.
00:52:31.000 Like, here's the events of the day.
00:52:33.000 Ground news?
00:52:35.000 I love Ground News.
00:52:36.000 I don't know what the sources are, like if they're on the ground.
00:52:38.000 What they're doing is they're trying to do it without a left-wing or a right-wing spin.
00:52:43.000 Well, Ground News tells you it rates— That's it, 1440?
00:52:46.000 I don't know, is it?
00:52:47.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:52:48.000 Do you have to sign up for it?
00:52:49.000 I don't even know.
00:52:50.000 I can't tell if this is just a substack.
00:52:53.000 100-plus sources so you don't have to.
00:52:54.000 Culture, science, sports, politics, business, and more, all in a five-minute read.
00:53:00.000 People are...
00:53:01.000 If you're a Fox News fucking zombie, you're a Fox News zombie.
00:53:05.000 You're not checking what MSNBC has to say.
00:53:10.000 What's that Rachel Maddow lady?
00:53:12.000 What's her take on this?
00:53:13.000 Is there some fucking...
00:53:15.000 Is there room in the middle here?
00:53:17.000 You don't want to live in that...
00:53:18.000 You live in the Fox reality.
00:53:20.000 You don't have any time!
00:53:21.000 No one has any fucking time, Giannis.
00:53:24.000 They don't have time to be sorting this out, so if you were...
00:53:27.000 Fucking lying.
00:53:29.000 And you're doing it because you think it's a good strategy to get your politician in place.
00:53:37.000 That's dirty.
00:53:38.000 That's anti-American.
00:53:40.000 Yeah.
00:53:41.000 It is, but I'm sure it's the way it's worked from the beginning.
00:53:45.000 Think about what they took Nixon out for.
00:53:48.000 Just spying.
00:53:49.000 Just a little spying.
00:53:52.000 Just a little spying.
00:53:54.000 Not that big a deal.
00:53:56.000 Yeah.
00:53:57.000 And they don't want to do anything about the Epstein client list, and they don't want to do anything about whatever the fuck Hunter Biden was doing with Russia and Ukraine and China.
00:54:12.000 What were you doing, bro?
00:54:14.000 They're selective about what they could take.
00:54:17.000 Hey Joe, why does everybody have millions of dollars?
00:54:20.000 Where did all that come from?
00:54:22.000 Why are you on the board of a major energy company and you're a crackhead?
00:54:27.000 Is it to curry favor with the vice president?
00:54:30.000 Why did Joe Biden get a million dollar a year job teaching?
00:54:36.000 At UPenn.
00:54:38.000 Yeah.
00:54:38.000 That was funded by a Chinese grant.
00:54:41.000 Yeah.
00:54:42.000 He also...
00:54:43.000 I shouldn't say it's funded by a Chinese grant.
00:54:45.000 It happened right after China gave him a bunch of money.
00:54:49.000 This fucking dude doesn't even have to show there.
00:54:51.000 He's telling everybody he's teaching there.
00:54:52.000 Yeah.
00:54:53.000 And he also plagiarized, got caught, and there's no consequences.
00:54:58.000 Dude, we had Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club in Boston.
00:55:02.000 In 1988, when he was running for president, he got busted.
00:55:06.000 I think it was Robert Kennedy's speech and someone else's speech.
00:55:10.000 He used, like, big chunks of people's stuff and he got busted pre-internet.
00:55:14.000 And it was so egregious and so bad that we did Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club.
00:55:20.000 Like, you would go up and do my act and I would go up and do your act.
00:55:25.000 We would just go up and do acts of our friends.
00:55:30.000 Fitzsimmons and I used to go and watch it.
00:55:34.000 It was hilarious.
00:55:35.000 Yeah.
00:55:35.000 There's no consequences.
00:55:36.000 There's no consequences.
00:55:38.000 No consequences.
00:55:38.000 It's not just no consequences, but there's so many videos of him.
00:55:42.000 People keep wanting to talk about Trump lying and Trump being a bully.
00:55:46.000 I'm not saying he's not.
00:55:48.000 I'm not saying he's not a crazy individual, a bombastic individual, but why are you ignoring the other guy's lies?
00:55:55.000 Right.
00:55:56.000 Because if you care about truth, we should be going, shit, look at this mess.
00:56:00.000 That's what we should be doing.
00:56:01.000 It's the same reason why those people won't say that Trump did anything good.
00:56:05.000 He did do some good things when he was in office.
00:56:07.000 He was right about some things, and he did do some things that were effective.
00:56:10.000 But they'll never admit it, because it's all team ball.
00:56:13.000 The guy who's the head of Google, how do you say his name?
00:56:15.000 Chamath?
00:56:18.000 I don't want to fuck his name up.
00:56:19.000 Brilliant guy.
00:56:20.000 But his take on it was...
00:56:23.000 Trump is the wrong guy with the right strategies, wrong guy with the right message, wrong guy socially, politically, lightning rod for the wrong kind of people, the right guy in terms of it seems like those policies were more effective.
00:56:39.000 There's just so many things that are fucking weird right now.
00:56:42.000 That's a good point.
00:56:43.000 That is a good point, yeah.
00:56:45.000 Well, he's brilliant.
00:56:45.000 He's a brilliant guy.
00:56:46.000 And you have to be brilliant to be someone who was at Google, which is an incredibly left-wing organization.
00:56:54.000 Like, most super genius tech people are very left-wing.
00:56:58.000 And then to look at that in a nuanced way and to be able to step outside of the ideology and say that.
00:57:05.000 Because that's the truth.
00:57:06.000 That is the truth.
00:57:07.000 Yeah.
00:57:08.000 He was an early exec at Facebook, not Google.
00:57:10.000 I'm sorry, Facebook.
00:57:12.000 And again, same kind of thing.
00:57:14.000 Yeah, same kind of thing.
00:57:14.000 Yeah, super genius tech guy.
00:57:17.000 But the way he describes, see if you can find him saying it.
00:57:20.000 Because the way he describes it, you're like, thank God he's saying that and not a moron.
00:57:25.000 You know, because what he's describing is the actual points and he's making very good points about it.
00:57:30.000 Yeah.
00:57:31.000 Well, I mean, we're less dependent on foreign oil.
00:57:34.000 I mean, he was right about the border.
00:57:35.000 Look at the border now.
00:57:37.000 The border now seems to be on purpose.
00:57:39.000 It seems to be on purpose.
00:57:41.000 It seems to be that there's some sort of a strategy to either flood the country.
00:57:46.000 Tim Dillon thinks it's cheap labor for construction.
00:57:51.000 That's got to be true.
00:57:52.000 It's got to be a factor.
00:57:54.000 It's got to be a factor.
00:57:55.000 Cheap labor is probably a factor.
00:57:57.000 And then another factor is this push to have them be able to vote.
00:58:04.000 It's a weird one.
00:58:05.000 They're doing that in New York City.
00:58:07.000 They're pushing to give illegals the right to vote.
00:58:09.000 But then the wildest thing that Texas is doing is just shipping all the people that show up because these states want sanctuary cities.
00:58:17.000 Yeah, because you're not on the border.
00:58:18.000 Okay, we'll just ship them to you.
00:58:20.000 So Texas is just shipping busloads of illegal immigrants to New York.
00:58:25.000 This is your mess.
00:58:26.000 It's the perfect example of the difference between theory and reality.
00:58:30.000 It's like everyone up there is in theory.
00:58:32.000 Oh, love everybody.
00:58:33.000 Everyone's great.
00:58:34.000 There's no such thing as an illegal.
00:58:35.000 And then when it becomes your problem, and that's why Texas is doing it, they're going, okay, now you're going to deal with what we're dealing with, so you're going to feel what it's like, and now you guys got to pay for it, and you have to figure out what to do.
00:58:45.000 Change your policies.
00:58:46.000 Yeah, so there's a lot of people in the left, in the center, that are going just like, make it go away.
00:58:54.000 They're just going, I don't know, just throw them in the water.
00:58:56.000 Just make it go away, but don't tell anyone what I told you.
00:58:58.000 Is this it?
00:58:59.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:59:00.000 Talking about Trump derangement syndrome?
00:59:02.000 Yeah.
00:59:02.000 Okay, one second, two minutes, maybe restart.
00:59:07.000 Pause.
00:59:10.000 Hillary Clinton, I voted for Joe Biden, but this is the honest assessment.
00:59:14.000 The guy did, for the things that he was supposed to do, a good job.
00:59:17.000 And for where every other president found a way to, frankly, make our situation a little bit worse, specifically around wars, he did not do that.
00:59:27.000 And that is a huge accomplishment that I think needs to be acknowledged.
00:59:33.000 Democrat who has been left homeless, who is now definitely in the center, but probably leaning increasingly right.
00:59:40.000 I'm left yet again with an appreciation, despite the messenger of the message of the Trump administration, because what those guys did was pretty incredible in hindsight.
00:59:52.000 These Abraham Accords, the Accords with Israel and the GCC, the almost accord between Israel and Saudi, To really be able to find a long-lasting peace is just a real example for the world,
01:00:10.000 and those guys did a lot of really good work.
01:00:13.000 It's a miracle, actually, when you look at it.
01:00:16.000 What they did, despite the fact, listen, I'm no fan of Trump, and I am too homeless.
01:00:21.000 But this is where...
01:00:22.000 Can I say this?
01:00:22.000 But if you want to objectively look at what they did, it was good work.
01:00:26.000 You have to.
01:00:26.000 It was great work.
01:00:27.000 You have to.
01:00:27.000 You have to.
01:00:28.000 And in fact, this is a moment where you have to start to re-underwrite, like, is one's Trump derangement syndrome causing more damage than anything that Trump could have actually done?
01:00:38.000 And I think the answer is yes, because it's now causing us to not see That could work and then embrace and extend it.
01:00:47.000 So much of the work that happened in that administration turns out to have been right.
01:00:54.000 And that's what's so frustrating for me.
01:00:56.000 The work on the border wall.
01:00:58.000 We didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
01:01:01.000 Turned out it was right.
01:01:03.000 Issuing long-term debt to refinance when rates were at zero, we didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
01:01:10.000 A structural piece in the Middle East, we didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
01:01:15.000 When are we going to stop shooting ourselves in the foot?
01:01:18.000 And when are we going to actually see and take the time to look past who is saying things and actually listen to them word for word?
01:01:26.000 Boom.
01:01:28.000 So good.
01:01:29.000 Well, that's why he's going to win this election if they let him run.
01:01:31.000 He's going to win.
01:01:32.000 Well, I think the abortion thing really shot the Republicans in the foot.
01:01:35.000 I think a lot of women are not happy about that, whether they publicly say it or not.
01:01:40.000 I think it's a gamble.
01:01:41.000 It's like what percentage of people are pro and what percentage of people are against and how many of the people that are actually going to vote, the real hardcore, you know, red till I'm dead, how many of those people are pro-life?
01:01:57.000 Probably a good number.
01:01:59.000 And the other ones are not going to vote Democrat just for that issue.
01:02:06.000 I believe with Trump with everything, except killing babies, I'm not going to vote for him in that.
01:02:10.000 I just think you should be able to do that.
01:02:13.000 Very few people are going to do that.
01:02:14.000 Unless you currently need one right now.
01:02:17.000 That might sway your judgment.
01:02:19.000 But very few people, if most of the chips are stacked in this one direction, but there's just one.
01:02:25.000 The thing about it is the control thing.
01:02:29.000 The thing about it that is kind of crazy is being able to tell someone what they can and can't do.
01:02:34.000 And to say there's no debate.
01:02:36.000 Right.
01:02:36.000 Well, it's clearly a debate because people have been having abortions all over the place and we're not putting them in jail, right?
01:02:41.000 So there's clearly a debate as to what that is.
01:02:44.000 Yeah, and it's also that it's one of those things where it's like you're morally against it.
01:02:48.000 So then if you're morally against it, then you don't do it and be morally against it.
01:02:52.000 But it's one of those things that's going to happen.
01:02:54.000 It's like being morally against something doesn't change anything in the real world.
01:02:59.000 With Israel and Palestine, I'm morally against it.
01:03:02.000 It's like, okay, what's that going to do?
01:03:03.000 It's not going to stop people from dying.
01:03:05.000 To an extent.
01:03:06.000 To an extent.
01:03:07.000 Because once the baby's born, then we all agree you can't kill it.
01:03:10.000 Right.
01:03:10.000 So there's a number.
01:03:12.000 But most of the world does like what?
01:03:14.000 First term, after first term is not good.
01:03:16.000 Yeah, I think...
01:03:17.000 There's got to be a compromise.
01:03:18.000 It's interesting because people are talking about...
01:03:19.000 Because abortions aren't good.
01:03:21.000 Even if you're on the left, abortions...
01:03:22.000 You can't say abortions are good.
01:03:24.000 When the people that want them are...
01:03:26.000 You see the video of that trans guy?
01:03:30.000 A trans woman, rather, who said he wants to be the first person to get a transplanted uterus, get pregnant, and have an abortion?
01:03:36.000 It's gotta be a joke.
01:03:38.000 You can't add comedy to comedy.
01:03:39.000 It's probably a dude.
01:03:41.000 It's probably just a regular dude, just thought it would be funny, start a TikTok page, say the wildest shit, we're coming for your kids.
01:03:46.000 I always think that about the guy with the stubble and the lipstick.
01:03:49.000 I'm like, that's probably not even real, this one.
01:03:51.000 But because they want to get an abortion.
01:03:54.000 Trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant, ovaries and eggs included.
01:04:01.000 And I want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion.
01:04:08.000 If it's true, it's comedy.
01:04:10.000 If it's not, it's also comedy.
01:04:12.000 It's China's victory cry.
01:04:14.000 Yeah, we got him!
01:04:16.000 That's what I think.
01:04:17.000 I think China TikTok'd us into a fucking coma.
01:04:20.000 They certainly have.
01:04:22.000 Yeah.
01:04:22.000 I think we did it to ourselves partially, but I also think for sure, just like I said, it has an effect on narratives about which way people believe, what they agree with and don't agree with.
01:04:35.000 Whatever they can show you on that algorithm that shapes things in a certain direction.
01:04:40.000 Well, I think they saw what our culture's about, what our weakness was, and they used it against us.
01:04:46.000 You know, fame, what we worship, Tom Cruise, fame.
01:04:49.000 And then once they democratized fame, they were like, oh, let's use this.
01:04:53.000 Let's promote, let's make stupid people famous.
01:04:56.000 Let's make simple things famous.
01:04:59.000 Let's push these in the algorithm so people see it because then Americans will go, oh, I can get famous too.
01:05:05.000 And then everyone started becoming their own Madison Avenue agency marketing...
01:05:11.000 Wacky, zany versions of themselves.
01:05:13.000 If you know actors, and you know actors, and I know actors, Not all of them, but there's a percentage of them that aren't even people.
01:05:21.000 No, they're like vessels.
01:05:23.000 They're vessels of their fucking mind.
01:05:25.000 And if you can convince that guy that wearing a dress to the Golden Globes is going to get him more attention, he's going to do it.
01:05:33.000 Oh, yeah.
01:05:33.000 He's going to do it.
01:05:34.000 He's going to wear high heels, and you're going to tell him he looks fabulous, and this guy is straight as an arrow.
01:05:39.000 And it doesn't matter.
01:05:40.000 He's just gaming the system.
01:05:42.000 Yeah.
01:05:43.000 The people who are really into fame, you can really convince them to do anything.
01:05:47.000 Yeah.
01:05:47.000 Because they want the fame.
01:05:49.000 They want the attention.
01:05:49.000 They want it bad.
01:05:50.000 They want it so bad.
01:05:51.000 That's the question.
01:05:52.000 They want it so bad.
01:05:54.000 That's the question.
01:05:54.000 They're obsessed with being huge.
01:05:56.000 Yeah.
01:05:56.000 And I've met people like that.
01:05:59.000 They're obsessed with it.
01:06:00.000 That's what they want.
01:06:01.000 It's just what they want.
01:06:03.000 It's how they're built.
01:06:04.000 It's what they're into.
01:06:05.000 And then the producer puts his hand on your leg and grabs your hog.
01:06:07.000 Yeah.
01:06:08.000 And you're like, oh, but I want the movie.
01:06:11.000 The movie's so important.
01:06:12.000 And you do it.
01:06:12.000 And you do it.
01:06:13.000 And you do it.
01:06:14.000 The movie's so important.
01:06:15.000 He grabs you by your hand, takes you into the room.
01:06:20.000 How bad do you want to be Iron Man?
01:06:22.000 Yeah.
01:06:22.000 How bad?
01:06:24.000 How bad do you want to be Peter Parker?
01:06:27.000 Yeah.
01:06:29.000 It's so crazy.
01:06:31.000 That's probably what tips the scales, whoever's willing to do that the most.
01:06:34.000 Well, Quentin Tarantino was telling us about this old director that literally had a bedroom built into his office where he had bed the starlets.
01:06:41.000 So he had his office, they'd go into his office, and there was a bed in a room.
01:06:46.000 And he would take them in there and bang them, all of them.
01:06:48.000 You want to be in the movie?
01:06:49.000 You got to fuck the producer.
01:06:50.000 Fuck the producer, yeah.
01:06:51.000 What the fuck are you talking about?
01:06:52.000 Yeah.
01:06:53.000 Especially once you get that system up and running, and you've created a few stars, and you know how to do it, and they all, it's Frank.
01:07:00.000 He's the guy who runs the office.
01:07:02.000 He can make you famous.
01:07:03.000 And he can.
01:07:04.000 And he can.
01:07:05.000 And he can, and he will.
01:07:06.000 And he can.
01:07:06.000 Yeah.
01:07:06.000 Yeah.
01:07:08.000 It's interesting now, because the world knows that that's the way it works, because it does.
01:07:12.000 It does work that way.
01:07:13.000 The Harvey Weinstein thing, just opening up that can of worms.
01:07:15.000 Yeah, it just opened it up.
01:07:16.000 Like, that is how it works.
01:07:17.000 Yeah.
01:07:18.000 That is how it works.
01:07:19.000 A lot of times people who rise up in the system are bad people.
01:07:24.000 Especially those kind of systems.
01:07:25.000 Systems of power and influence.
01:07:27.000 But I would say that that's like...
01:07:28.000 I was always talking about Hollywood in that way.
01:07:31.000 That that is like...
01:07:33.000 It's a perfect proving ground for like the absolute worst way to develop a human being.
01:07:39.000 You take people that are already fucked up and they need extra attention and then they move to a place where they're surrounded by people who are fucked up and need extra attention and then you make them compete to see who's worthy.
01:07:53.000 And you go in there and pretend to be someone else and they decide whether or not they like your someone else or his someone else.
01:07:59.000 And you have to figure out what they like and try to be their friend.
01:08:02.000 Maybe bring them chocolates and maybe talk to them about the latest Roe v.
01:08:06.000 Wade issue.
01:08:07.000 I, for one, have always been with a woman's right to choose.
01:08:09.000 And then, like, formulate their ideology based on whatever this group of people achieves ultimate power.
01:08:18.000 And, you know, like, if you step out of line politically with any of those people, you're on that shit list and you're not going to be in that movie.
01:08:26.000 A hundred percent.
01:08:27.000 You either keep your fucking mouth shut or you go and you wear your fucking pink ribbon and you do all the things you're supposed to do.
01:08:34.000 The black square on Tuesday.
01:08:35.000 You do everything you're supposed to do or you're not getting in.
01:08:39.000 And so everybody is just like this weird shell of a person trying to figure out what's the thing they're supposed to say and what's the thing they're supposed to support.
01:08:51.000 Yeah, it's a miserable way to live.
01:08:53.000 But it's a whole industry and that's how you make fake stuff.
01:08:57.000 That's the only way to make fake stuff.
01:08:59.000 You gotta get those fucking crazy people to pretend they're a miner.
01:09:03.000 There's plenty of those people willing to step up and act that way.
01:09:06.000 It's just a terrible place to be a human.
01:09:11.000 And in that environment, it's so hard.
01:09:13.000 Like, I so admire actors who are cool.
01:09:16.000 I so admire them.
01:09:17.000 It's like, oh, you're just a guy.
01:09:19.000 I can just hang out.
01:09:20.000 Like, Chris Pratt, bro, if he was right here, he's like my friend from high school or something.
01:09:25.000 Yeah.
01:09:25.000 He's like a regular guy.
01:09:26.000 Just happens to be a giant movie star.
01:09:28.000 Yeah.
01:09:29.000 Like, how did you do it?
01:09:30.000 You got through.
01:09:31.000 You're all right.
01:09:31.000 Well, his looks didn't hurt.
01:09:33.000 It helps.
01:09:33.000 Yeah, it helps a lot.
01:09:34.000 But you can also be a douche with looks like that.
01:09:36.000 You can be, yeah.
01:09:37.000 You know?
01:09:37.000 Yeah.
01:09:38.000 If you are, it's like, why?
01:09:39.000 Right.
01:09:40.000 You already won the lottery.
01:09:41.000 You're a douche and you look like that.
01:09:42.000 You're like, well, dude, take it easy.
01:09:44.000 He's a fucking sweetheart of a guy.
01:09:45.000 Yeah.
01:09:46.000 Yeah, there's a lot of guys like that.
01:09:47.000 Like, I've always loved Ethan Hawke.
01:09:49.000 He says a lot of profound things.
01:09:50.000 He seems like a real normal guy.
01:09:51.000 He lives in Brooklyn.
01:09:52.000 Yeah, he seems brilliant.
01:09:53.000 Did you see that new movie?
01:09:55.000 I haven't seen it yet.
01:09:56.000 What is it called?
01:09:57.000 The new Netflix movie.
01:09:59.000 It's an apocalyptic movie.
01:10:00.000 Oh, it sucked.
01:10:01.000 Oh, I didn't like it.
01:10:02.000 Yeah, I did see it.
01:10:03.000 No, I did not like it.
01:10:04.000 How dare you?
01:10:04.000 What's it called?
01:10:05.000 Leave the World Behind?
01:10:06.000 Leave the World Behind?
01:10:06.000 You thought it sucked?
01:10:07.000 I didn't like it.
01:10:07.000 What did you not like about it?
01:10:08.000 I just thought it...
01:10:09.000 I don't know.
01:10:10.000 It just didn't...
01:10:10.000 I loved it.
01:10:11.000 You loved it?
01:10:11.000 Loved it.
01:10:12.000 Yeah, I didn't like it.
01:10:13.000 Yeah, the only thing I didn't love is the animals showing up in their backyard.
01:10:15.000 I'm like, this isn't...
01:10:16.000 That seemed a little over the top.
01:10:18.000 It seems a little over the top.
01:10:19.000 If I think what I didn't like about it, it seemed a little over the top.
01:10:22.000 I liked the theme of it.
01:10:23.000 I liked how they kind of turned on each other a little bit.
01:10:26.000 Yeah, but not too much.
01:10:27.000 Not too much.
01:10:28.000 But it's coming.
01:10:28.000 Yeah.
01:10:29.000 Yeah.
01:10:30.000 You think they're preparing us?
01:10:31.000 Yeah, well, for sure they set up an affair.
01:10:34.000 Get a bunker!
01:10:34.000 For sure, Ethan's weak and the other dude is strong.
01:10:37.000 You know, that's gonna work out well.
01:10:39.000 You know?
01:10:40.000 I mean, there's not enough people.
01:10:41.000 Yeah.
01:10:42.000 Julia Roberts still looks great.
01:10:43.000 Yeah.
01:10:44.000 Yeah.
01:10:44.000 You know, the thing that threw me off in that movie was the fake animals.
01:10:48.000 The CGI animals.
01:10:49.000 Like, that does...
01:10:51.000 Like, you just took me away.
01:10:52.000 You've developed this intense psychological thriller.
01:10:55.000 You don't need to have this weird animal mystery thing in the middle of it.
01:10:58.000 And it didn't even go anywhere.
01:10:59.000 Exactly.
01:11:00.000 Yeah.
01:11:00.000 Well, there's no logic behind it.
01:11:01.000 Yeah.
01:11:02.000 There's no reason why the animals would all just show up in your backyard like that.
01:11:05.000 And they never explained it or nothing ever happened.
01:11:07.000 Unless you live in Texas.
01:11:08.000 They're everywhere.
01:11:09.000 But they're everywhere every day.
01:11:10.000 This movie was great and not so great in the same time.
01:11:15.000 Like, that part was not so great.
01:11:16.000 It didn't make any sense.
01:11:17.000 But the rest of it did make sense that people do go sideways, you know?
01:11:21.000 Yeah.
01:11:23.000 I thought that...
01:11:24.000 Who played the guy that...
01:11:28.000 Oh, Kevin Bacon.
01:11:29.000 The crazy guy.
01:11:30.000 Underrated actor.
01:11:31.000 He's so good.
01:11:32.000 He's such a good actor.
01:11:33.000 Very good.
01:11:34.000 I would have liked to have seen him more.
01:11:36.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:11:37.000 Why do you have one scene with this fascinating guy who's already prepared?
01:11:42.000 I agree with you.
01:11:42.000 It seemed like that whole in the house stuff was like a little, we got it.
01:11:46.000 Yeah, we got it.
01:11:47.000 We kind of got that part.
01:11:48.000 Yeah, and also the tension didn't go anywhere.
01:11:50.000 They wound up being friends.
01:11:52.000 Yeah.
01:11:52.000 You know, like the girl and Julia Roberts, they hate each other.
01:11:56.000 They're bitching each other.
01:11:57.000 Then they're hugging each other at one point in time.
01:11:59.000 What are we doing?
01:11:59.000 Yeah.
01:12:00.000 Why'd you make them fucking cunty to each other?
01:12:02.000 Yeah.
01:12:02.000 You know?
01:12:03.000 That was just, yeah.
01:12:04.000 I didn't love, I just didn't think it was, it could have been better.
01:12:07.000 Why did he not have his wallet on?
01:12:09.000 I'm like, what is all about this?
01:12:10.000 Drives there with, oh, I must have left it in my jacket.
01:12:12.000 It looks fake.
01:12:13.000 You're setting me up.
01:12:14.000 There's real drama.
01:12:16.000 The world is over.
01:12:17.000 There's real drama.
01:12:19.000 Why do you get this weird interpersonal drama?
01:12:22.000 There he is.
01:12:23.000 He was good in it.
01:12:24.000 You know what's really fascinating?
01:12:25.000 There was this one weird moment where the daughter and...
01:12:30.000 What is the gentleman's name?
01:12:32.000 The same guy that's playing Blade, right?
01:12:36.000 How do you say his name?
01:12:39.000 He's awesome.
01:12:39.000 He was great in it.
01:12:40.000 He's awesome.
01:12:41.000 He was great.
01:12:42.000 Just like when the daughter said to him, you can't trust white people.
01:12:46.000 Everybody got so mad.
01:12:48.000 Everybody got so mad.
01:12:49.000 Isn't this a movie where two black people are in a house with white people at the end of the world?
01:12:53.000 You don't think that's a reasonable thing to say?
01:12:55.000 No.
01:12:56.000 It's also part of the black psyche.
01:12:58.000 They're always thinking that.
01:12:59.000 They're always thinking like, can I trust this guy?
01:13:02.000 Why wouldn't you say that you're a young girl?
01:13:04.000 That's on brand.
01:13:05.000 You're a young girl with tattoos and nose rings and you say, don't trust white people?
01:13:09.000 Duh.
01:13:10.000 Duh.
01:13:10.000 Why would people be upset at that?
01:13:13.000 Obama made this movie.
01:13:15.000 This is the agenda.
01:13:16.000 No, that's not.
01:13:17.000 Watch the movie.
01:13:18.000 That's not what it's about.
01:13:19.000 Or hang out with black people.
01:13:20.000 There's always a little something where they always have it in their head a little bit.
01:13:23.000 Or they always have a story.
01:13:25.000 Yeah.
01:13:25.000 What did he say to you?
01:13:26.000 They went through some trauma.
01:13:27.000 Yeah, that's what he said to me.
01:13:28.000 And you're like, whoa.
01:13:30.000 That one-on-one racism when no one's around has got to be the scariest shit.
01:13:34.000 Yeah.
01:13:35.000 That's got to be the scariest shit.
01:13:36.000 Yeah, you can't just wash away that trauma.
01:13:38.000 It happened.
01:13:39.000 Yeah, but also, it's a movie.
01:13:41.000 It's a movie about people that are experiencing heavy levels of anxiety.
01:13:46.000 Yeah.
01:13:46.000 Where the world is over.
01:13:48.000 There's war going on.
01:13:50.000 No one knows what happened.
01:13:51.000 Planes are falling from the sky.
01:13:52.000 This girl's mom's dead, probably.
01:13:54.000 Spoiler alert.
01:13:55.000 Well, everyone's overreacting now to how that's been politicized, right?
01:14:01.000 Like the race stuff and the DEI. So if they see any glimpse of that, they just attach.
01:14:05.000 They get mad.
01:14:05.000 Even if it's just a reasonable part of a story.
01:14:08.000 Right.
01:14:08.000 I mean, you've got to give people room in fiction.
01:14:11.000 To make realistic human beings.
01:14:13.000 Yeah.
01:14:13.000 If you don't think a realistic 20-something-year-old girl who's with her dad, where they're in a guest bedroom of their own fucking house because these other people Airbnb-ed, but the end of the world is here, you don't think you'd have some fucking shitty things to say, especially if no one's around?
01:14:27.000 Especially if the woman, who's Julia Roberts, is acting like shitty.
01:14:31.000 Yes.
01:14:32.000 Yeah, doesn't trust you.
01:14:33.000 Yeah.
01:14:34.000 Everyone's so charged now on the...
01:14:37.000 Culture war.
01:14:37.000 You can't avoid it.
01:14:38.000 I just posted this clip on my Instagram where I made fun of, you know, because Trump came up in the releases and Clinton came up in the releases.
01:14:46.000 Of course, they say it's all been...
01:14:47.000 They go, oh, that's all been debunked.
01:14:49.000 That's what the media says.
01:14:50.000 It's all been debunked.
01:14:50.000 It's all been debunked.
01:14:51.000 Even though both of them were hanging out with Epstein.
01:14:53.000 It's like, what were you hanging out with?
01:14:54.000 Were you guys golfing?
01:14:55.000 But there's photos of them all.
01:14:57.000 Yeah, they were at...
01:14:57.000 And then Trump was at Clinton's wedding.
01:15:00.000 The Clintons were at Trump's wedding.
01:15:02.000 They're all like hanging out.
01:15:03.000 Ghislaine was at Clinton's daughter's wedding.
01:15:06.000 Exactly.
01:15:06.000 But I posted this clip and the comments are just people yelling at the other.
01:15:12.000 He wasn't on.
01:15:13.000 They just can't see past.
01:15:17.000 Also, those people, a percentage of them are bots.
01:15:21.000 You think so?
01:15:22.000 A hundred percent.
01:15:24.000 Probably.
01:15:24.000 A hundred percent.
01:15:25.000 One hundred percent.
01:15:27.000 100%, a certain percentage of those, 100%, a certain percent, there's a certain number that are not real people.
01:15:33.000 That's true.
01:15:34.000 That is all what we were talking about earlier.
01:15:35.000 Foreign governments, they've found so many of these sites.
01:15:40.000 They've found so many of these troll farms.
01:15:42.000 There's videos of them.
01:15:44.000 The Internet Research Agency in Russia is completely dedicated to trolling America online and dissolving our faith in democracy.
01:15:51.000 That must be a fun job to wake up to do.
01:15:53.000 Amazing.
01:15:53.000 You wake up, you just post.
01:15:55.000 Those dudes are funny.
01:15:56.000 Yeah.
01:15:57.000 I had Renee DiResta on.
01:15:58.000 She's one of the people that investigated it.
01:16:00.000 And she said there was hundreds of thousands of memes.
01:16:02.000 She goes, and some of them are really funny.
01:16:04.000 Yeah.
01:16:04.000 Like, I'm really laughing while I'm, like, fucking documenting these things.
01:16:07.000 It makes sense.
01:16:08.000 Because I always thought, like, who's sitting around making these memes?
01:16:12.000 It's got to be somebody's job to do it.
01:16:14.000 There's definitely some of them are just funny people.
01:16:16.000 Yeah.
01:16:16.000 Because my friends have made memes and sent me memes.
01:16:18.000 Because it's about something that we did.
01:16:20.000 It's very funny.
01:16:21.000 I love memes.
01:16:22.000 Memes are funny.
01:16:23.000 It's my favorite kind of comedy.
01:16:24.000 I know you send me sometimes.
01:16:25.000 Yeah, they're great.
01:16:26.000 I don't send you enough.
01:16:27.000 I get a lot of good ones here.
01:16:28.000 I'm going to get one that we could never use on the air.
01:16:32.000 But I'm going to just show it to you real quick because it made me laugh so hard.
01:16:41.000 It's horrible.
01:16:43.000 It's horrible.
01:16:44.000 It's horrible.
01:16:44.000 It's horrible.
01:16:45.000 It's horrible, but it gets the point across.
01:16:47.000 It's horrible!
01:16:48.000 Oh my god, there's so many of them.
01:16:50.000 You just laugh so hard.
01:16:52.000 There's no victim.
01:16:53.000 There's no victim.
01:16:53.000 No.
01:16:54.000 It's just...
01:16:57.000 And it's a one-on-one thing.
01:16:58.000 I've sent that to my friends, and they sent it to their friends, and we're all sending it to each other.
01:17:02.000 And I don't know where it came from.
01:17:03.000 It might have come from a troll farm in Macedonia.
01:17:05.000 No, that one seems, because it has no political implications, that seems like it was probably made by somebody with a really funny sense of humor.
01:17:12.000 One of the things that they detailed is that they developed pages, right?
01:17:17.000 So they would develop an Instagram page or a Facebook page based on something that was popular.
01:17:21.000 So maybe they would use Giannis Pappas clips, right?
01:17:24.000 Use a bunch of clips of you and your characters and all your bits.
01:17:27.000 And then they do it without your consent.
01:17:30.000 And then they develop a channel.
01:17:31.000 They did one with a Barbie channel, like fans of Barbie dolls.
01:17:34.000 They did one with, like, Legos.
01:17:37.000 And then, once they accumulate a following, then they'll switch it over and have it become a meme page.
01:17:43.000 And I've seen this before.
01:17:44.000 I went to one that I found the other day, because sometimes if a meme just stumbles across my Instagram, I'm very curious about this whole process.
01:17:52.000 Like, who's making these?
01:17:53.000 Where are they coming from?
01:17:54.000 So I clicked on the link, and I went to their Instagram page, and I saw a bunch of memes, but also a bunch of weird stuff, and some weird political stuff.
01:18:01.000 And I'm like, hmm, what is this?
01:18:03.000 So I scroll way, [...
01:18:07.000 And in the very beginning, it was just like a regular page.
01:18:11.000 It was like they were promoting something, like some gaming thing or something like that, and it was just a regular page.
01:18:17.000 And I think they'll do things like that just to try to get some traction of following going, and then they'll start launching things.
01:18:25.000 Well, then you could hack the algorithm just because the algorithm picks up on the engagement.
01:18:28.000 It's all computers.
01:18:30.000 A story in the Wall Street Journal from a few years ago talks about a Los Angeles marketing company that got a bunch of smaller Instagram accounts to give them control.
01:18:40.000 They do that.
01:18:42.000 And then they started posting a bunch of Russian troll propaganda.
01:18:45.000 Yeah, they'll do that.
01:18:46.000 They'll trick you into giving up your passwords and we'll handle this for you.
01:18:50.000 We'll manage things.
01:18:52.000 Yeah.
01:18:53.000 I have a friend who was, she was going to do like a podcast with this, she's a musician, Suzanne Santo.
01:19:01.000 And she was doing this interview and they were going to do it live on like Facebook Live.
01:19:07.000 So you get like a video stream.
01:19:09.000 And so she's like, I'm not sure how to set it up.
01:19:11.000 They're like, oh, just give us control and we'll do it and we'll do it on your screen.
01:19:15.000 So she, you know, files all the stuff and enters in her code and her password and sends it to them.
01:19:22.000 And then they just shut off.
01:19:23.000 And then they just took over her account.
01:19:25.000 And they've been doing it to a bunch of different artists.
01:19:27.000 So if you have 100,000 followers or 150,000 followers, now they just take over your account and then they sell Viagra or fucking Bitcoin or whatever it is.
01:19:37.000 You can't get it back?
01:19:39.000 Well, she got it back.
01:19:39.000 She got it back, luckily.
01:19:41.000 She protests and she knew people and she got it back.
01:19:44.000 But you could lose it forever, easily.
01:19:49.000 Russian trolls made fake Kid Rock fan accounts and fooled Donald Trump Jr. That's what I'm saying, man.
01:19:55.000 It's not a small number of people.
01:19:57.000 No.
01:19:58.000 I think it's a lot.
01:19:59.000 Yeah.
01:19:59.000 I think Rene DiResta was speaking about this from the 2016 elections.
01:20:04.000 Well, remember that whole, the kid, the Covington kids, it was some account in Brazil that edited the video to start it so it looked like the...
01:20:13.000 Like he came up to them.
01:20:14.000 That the kid came up to the...
01:20:17.000 Is that what it was?
01:20:17.000 Yeah.
01:20:18.000 It was some account in Brazil, some fake account in Brazil.
01:20:20.000 Interesting.
01:20:21.000 And, yeah, they look for moments to try to sow discord.
01:20:25.000 100%.
01:20:26.000 Yeah.
01:20:26.000 The more they can get us at each other's throats, it's...
01:20:31.000 It almost seems engineered.
01:20:33.000 It is engineered.
01:20:34.000 But I mean it almost seems engineered that we fall for it.
01:20:37.000 That our government doesn't step in and say, hey, look at what's going on here.
01:20:41.000 We need to figure out a way to mitigate this.
01:20:42.000 I think they have been.
01:20:43.000 I think they've been bringing it up.
01:20:44.000 They've been trying to.
01:20:45.000 What they've really been doing is trying to get at people that criticize the government.
01:20:49.000 That's what they really try to do.
01:20:50.000 They try to ban accounts that do things that they don't like.
01:20:53.000 That's been shown in the Twitter files.
01:20:55.000 For sure.
01:20:56.000 There's not the same kind of emphasis in going after Russian trolls that are trying to sow discord and try to encourage reasonable conversations.
01:21:05.000 There's not emphasis on that.
01:21:07.000 Well, I think that's more the social media company's responsibility.
01:21:10.000 I don't think they wanted to do it because it inflated engagement and they could go to their shareholders and say, look how popular our pages are.
01:21:17.000 We got a trillion members and like half of them are fake and look at all this engagement.
01:21:22.000 Half of it's fake.
01:21:23.000 They don't want to say half of it's fake because it looked good for the stock.
01:21:25.000 We've talked about this before, but there's this guy who is a former...
01:21:28.000 Was he an FBI security analyst?
01:21:30.000 Is that what he was, Jamie?
01:21:31.000 That said that 80% of the accounts on Twitter may be fake?
01:21:34.000 That makes sense.
01:21:35.000 80. That's a lot.
01:21:37.000 Because you always meet regular people and they're like, what?
01:21:39.000 I'm like, did you see what happened on Twitter?
01:21:40.000 They're like...
01:21:40.000 What are you talking about, man?
01:21:42.000 But I don't know what that means.
01:21:43.000 Does that mean 80% of the accounts are accounts where people have burner accounts?
01:21:48.000 Or what percentage of them are just burner accounts?
01:21:50.000 Because there's a bunch of...
01:21:51.000 I know some comics that have burner accounts that say wild shit.
01:21:55.000 Just...
01:21:57.000 Just log in through a fucking VPN and say some wild shit.
01:22:01.000 Yeah.
01:22:01.000 I don't have any burners.
01:22:02.000 I don't have any time for my own accounts.
01:22:04.000 Yeah.
01:22:05.000 I don't want to do a burner account.
01:22:06.000 But if I did...
01:22:07.000 You'd have some fun.
01:22:08.000 I'd have some fun.
01:22:09.000 There's a few I follow online.
01:22:11.000 They get people on ESPN to repost a fake tweet all the time.
01:22:17.000 Yeah.
01:22:17.000 Like, daily.
01:22:18.000 They just word it or make the meme or the picture look so good or so right, and it just sounds outrageous enough, like so-and-so is fighting about something crazy, and they just repost it without checking into it.
01:22:28.000 Oh, yeah.
01:22:28.000 That sounds like me.
01:22:30.000 How many times have we had something that I heard, and I'm like, what is this I heard?
01:22:34.000 And then Jamie has to look at it, but oh, this is what it's actually about.
01:22:37.000 I'm like, oh.
01:22:40.000 That happens.
01:22:40.000 Yeah, that's the world we live in.
01:22:41.000 Listen, that's what happens when you, if you want to do the show for real, like this, like if you want the show to be what it is, which is just talking shit in real time, you're gonna make some mistakes.
01:22:51.000 I'm gonna say some things that I heard about.
01:22:53.000 They might not be true.
01:22:55.000 Yeah.
01:22:55.000 But is that really my fault?
01:22:57.000 Like, should we really be paying attention to that?
01:22:59.000 Or should we be paying attention to that?
01:23:00.000 How are we so fucking confused?
01:23:02.000 How are there so many trolls?
01:23:05.000 How much money is being spent to make us mad at each other all day long?
01:23:09.000 A lot of money.
01:23:11.000 Yeah, and how do you develop immunity to that?
01:23:14.000 How do you develop antibodies to that?
01:23:17.000 How do you develop an ability to just not be affected by that?
01:23:20.000 And to have some sort of a moral, ethical, personality compass, where you know where North is.
01:23:28.000 Well, this is all new.
01:23:29.000 Never before has so much information been available to people and so many different versions of reality presented.
01:23:36.000 So it's new.
01:23:37.000 Whatever is going to emerge, it will be like some sort of superhuman who can be able to have unbelievable...
01:23:45.000 Intuition and just know maybe like this will force humans to evolve to a point where we can like mind read or any little face tick We'll be able to tell if you're lying or something like right everyone else will get fooled But the ones who be were able to tell the truth will be able to just like really like ah his eye move I know he's lying bullshit.
01:24:01.000 Yeah, like think about like voice memos You know how you say voice memos like you could say into your phone call Giannis Papas today at four o'clock And it writes it down in text.
01:24:12.000 That's kind of how a computer is at picking up whether you're full of shit.
01:24:18.000 But you're a lot better than that.
01:24:19.000 If you're talking to someone, you're like, why didn't you meet us there?
01:24:22.000 He's like, oh, there's this thing I had to do.
01:24:24.000 It was like, I forgot to tell Mike.
01:24:28.000 I left my keys in my house.
01:24:30.000 There's something about the way they're talking.
01:24:32.000 You're like, oh, he seems full of shit.
01:24:34.000 You just pick up at it.
01:24:36.000 Or like, are you mad?
01:24:37.000 No, I'm not mad.
01:24:38.000 Okay.
01:24:39.000 Okay.
01:24:40.000 And there's something.
01:24:41.000 You're like, no, dude, you're mad.
01:24:43.000 Tell me what's going on.
01:24:44.000 Why are you mad?
01:24:45.000 What's going on?
01:24:46.000 Just, let's talk.
01:24:47.000 Why are you mad?
01:24:48.000 Yeah, computers aren't as good as that.
01:24:49.000 Computers are going to say, I'm not mad.
01:24:51.000 Okay, good.
01:24:51.000 It's not mad.
01:24:53.000 But you're like, dude, you're upset.
01:24:54.000 Let me ask you this.
01:24:55.000 Do you think it matters?
01:24:56.000 Do you think the truth matters?
01:24:58.000 Does it matter?
01:24:59.000 In what way?
01:25:00.000 What do you mean?
01:25:01.000 Is there massive consequences to living in a fantasy world or believing lies or making up stories?
01:25:10.000 Like stealing stuff or like plagiarizing like, you know, Biden was caught doing like, you know, Claudine Gay was a big story.
01:25:19.000 Now they're going after Eichmann's wife.
01:25:21.000 Like, does it matter?
01:25:22.000 Does originality matter?
01:25:24.000 Does being genuine matter?
01:25:26.000 And why?
01:25:27.000 And why not?
01:25:27.000 Like, it's an interesting thing because I think this is definitely not the era for...
01:25:31.000 Being genuine.
01:25:32.000 This is the era of like, I want to make you believe what I want you to believe for my benefit.
01:25:38.000 I tend to be a glasses half-full guy.
01:25:41.000 So I say, no, this is the age of being genuine because that other stuff is everywhere.
01:25:48.000 And if you want to really just have actual connections with humans, just actually be a real human.
01:25:54.000 Like, be there.
01:25:55.000 And the only way you could do that Is if you're being truthful.
01:25:59.000 Now, if you're plagiarizing, and you're also trying to connect with people, and you're trying to pretend that you're the person that figured these things out, I don't know you.
01:26:09.000 I don't know your capabilities now, because they've been greatly inflated by you repeating someone else's work and trying to pawn it off as your own.
01:26:17.000 But that's rewarded.
01:26:17.000 It seems to be rewarded.
01:26:18.000 Yeah, it's also busted.
01:26:20.000 For a while, yeah.
01:26:20.000 But it's being busted now.
01:26:21.000 People are being busted.
01:26:22.000 And when you step out of line, like Claudine Gay did at that When they're speaking, was it a congresswoman they're speaking to?
01:26:29.000 They were asking her about, like, is saying death to the Jews, is that harassment?
01:26:33.000 And they're like, is it, if it's actionable?
01:26:36.000 They're like, well, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.
01:26:39.000 What were they wearing when they said it?
01:26:40.000 How did they say it?
01:26:41.000 It just shows how far this mind virus is taking people in academia.
01:26:47.000 They're literally out of their fucking minds and they're shaping young minds and they're influenced heavily by foreign governments.
01:26:57.000 That has always been the case.
01:26:59.000 That is what Yuri Bezmenov talked about In the 1980s.
01:27:03.000 That's right.
01:27:03.000 I've seen that video.
01:27:04.000 That video is wild.
01:27:06.000 And he talks about introducing Marxism and Leninism into universities and education and changing the narrative for young people, destroying their faith in democracy.
01:27:18.000 And that's exactly what's happening.
01:27:20.000 And these people are a part of that system.
01:27:22.000 And they don't realize how fucking crazy it is.
01:27:26.000 How fucking crazy it is that you're doing this.
01:27:29.000 Yeah, they don't realize you're being manipulated.
01:27:32.000 They don't know what the source is.
01:27:33.000 They don't know what the intention is.
01:27:35.000 There are those people in San Francisco with the masks on, dancing around.
01:27:38.000 Because that's their world.
01:27:40.000 That's their environment.
01:27:41.000 Their environment is fucking crazy.
01:27:44.000 Everyone's kind of in a bubble.
01:27:45.000 It's interesting.
01:27:46.000 And as comics, we meet, we see the different bubbles by going from this city to that city.
01:27:51.000 You're like, whoa.
01:27:52.000 A lot of people, most people don't get the opportunity to do that, so they just think their bubble is the way it is.
01:27:58.000 Yeah.
01:27:58.000 And they don't see the other perspective.
01:28:00.000 Yeah.
01:28:00.000 Yeah, if you don't travel a little, you don't meet different kinds of people, you don't know that different kinds of people exist.
01:28:05.000 Like, when I lived in Boston, like, you get used to, like, that kind of people.
01:28:10.000 You know, like, fucking, fucking hot-ass, fucking just hard-working, no bullshit, I gotta shovel snow people.
01:28:18.000 Is there a version of you that stays in Boston, meets some wrong Italian kids, you get a nickname like Joey Mulekicks?
01:28:26.000 He's like, fuck you, kid!
01:28:28.000 Hey, if I didn't do stand-up, I would have probably still be there.
01:28:30.000 Yeah.
01:28:31.000 Yeah, I don't know how I would have figured out a way to travel the country without stand-up.
01:28:35.000 Yeah.
01:28:35.000 I don't know if I would have gone anywhere.
01:28:37.000 I probably would have just stayed in Boston, complained about the winter every year.
01:28:41.000 Yeah.
01:28:42.000 Maybe a bunch of my friends, as we got older, we decided to escape to Florida.
01:28:45.000 Yeah, you go all-inclusive, maybe a little Cancun action.
01:28:49.000 Nah, you're not going to live in Cancun.
01:28:51.000 No, do a little vacation.
01:28:53.000 Yeah, but I'm talking about moving.
01:28:54.000 Oh, moving.
01:28:55.000 Oh, that's the dream.
01:28:56.000 I'm going to stay.
01:28:56.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:57.000 But most likely, I'm going to stay in Boston.
01:28:59.000 You're not going to move to Florida if you live in Boston.
01:29:01.000 And I'm not going to be going on the road.
01:29:03.000 No.
01:29:03.000 Like, as a comic, you do ridiculous.
01:29:06.000 You're in Ohio, then you're in Mississippi, then you're in Florida, then you're in Michigan, then you're in Nevada, then you're in Utah.
01:29:12.000 Yeah.
01:29:13.000 You're going all over the fucking place as a comedian.
01:29:15.000 Yeah.
01:29:15.000 That's an education in humans.
01:29:18.000 Such an education.
01:29:20.000 Yeah.
01:29:20.000 Such an education.
01:29:21.000 I speak to my brother all the time about that.
01:29:25.000 Like, he doesn't see the world.
01:29:26.000 He lives in D.C. And sometimes I'll send him stuff like, you know, making fun of Nancy Pelosi or whatever.
01:29:34.000 And he, like, just can't.
01:29:35.000 He can't process it.
01:29:36.000 And I'm like, you live in a bubble.
01:29:38.000 You're just in a...
01:29:40.000 And at one point he was like, I do and I want to stay in it.
01:29:43.000 I want to stay in that bubble.
01:29:44.000 Well, if you're busy, I get it.
01:29:46.000 Yeah.
01:29:47.000 For them, the answer is truth important?
01:29:49.000 No.
01:29:49.000 No.
01:29:50.000 No.
01:29:51.000 Can they get Uber Eats?
01:29:52.000 That's right.
01:29:53.000 Is Netflix on?
01:29:54.000 Is Netflix on?
01:29:55.000 Are they getting a raise at work?
01:29:56.000 And we're not really a truth-seeking animal.
01:29:58.000 The truth is uncomfortable.
01:29:59.000 The truth is uncomfortable.
01:30:01.000 It's tedious.
01:30:02.000 It can be vicious.
01:30:04.000 It can be mean.
01:30:05.000 That's why I think we're so susceptible to marketing and advertising.
01:30:08.000 Nobody wants to know the real truth.
01:30:09.000 Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made.
01:30:11.000 Everyone wants to just believe the image that they see on the screen.
01:30:14.000 Nobody wants to know the truth.
01:30:16.000 That's why I think there's often not a lot of consequences when people are caught being inauthentic because people want to believe it.
01:30:23.000 Like, who do you blame, really?
01:30:24.000 I mean, the conner or the conned?
01:30:27.000 I mean, the conned are complicit.
01:30:29.000 You want to believe.
01:30:31.000 I think we're about five years away from mind reading.
01:30:33.000 I think it all goes out the window.
01:30:35.000 Once we can mind read?
01:30:36.000 Mm-hmm.
01:30:37.000 Got it.
01:30:38.000 Yeah.
01:30:39.000 I think within five years, it's all out the window.
01:30:41.000 That's going to be interesting.
01:30:42.000 Have you seen the new Galaxy AI phones?
01:30:44.000 I'm not scared of it.
01:30:45.000 Put it in me.
01:30:46.000 Have you seen these new Galaxy AI phones that translate in real time?
01:30:48.000 No.
01:30:49.000 They translate in real time, in language, audio rather, and in text.
01:30:55.000 So you have a phone, you set the phone down, like we would have a phone, we'd set it down here, and one half would be facing you, the other half would be facing me, like the text is upside down, so you could read the text.
01:31:05.000 And I would say into it, you know, in whatever language, you know, hey Giannis, you want to go to lunch?
01:31:11.000 And it would translate into whatever language you have, and then say it out in real time.
01:31:16.000 So the way it's, when it sets up, Let's see if we can do it like where you see.
01:31:21.000 So you can do it a couple different ways.
01:31:23.000 One, you can do it when you're calling people.
01:31:25.000 It's on a call, the one on the screen.
01:31:26.000 Yeah.
01:31:27.000 So you're calling people, and as they're talking back, it will translate it in real time.
01:31:33.000 And it would also translate if you're wearing, I think, the Galaxy earbuds.
01:31:37.000 It'll translate it in audio.
01:31:39.000 So it'll give you whatever that person's saying in English.
01:31:44.000 Wow.
01:31:44.000 And then you say it back to them, and it will translate it in Thai or whatever they're speaking.
01:31:49.000 Wow.
01:31:50.000 Yeah.
01:31:51.000 We're headed to an interesting place.
01:31:53.000 Right.
01:31:53.000 So once you get to that, once you get to this where language is no longer a barrier.
01:31:57.000 So this is the beginning, right?
01:31:59.000 This Galaxy Eye, this is like the best smartphone that you could buy right now.
01:32:03.000 This is the beginning.
01:32:05.000 And then what this is really is like Atari.
01:32:08.000 Right.
01:32:08.000 You know, this is like some shitty pixelated version of a video game that you play.
01:32:13.000 Within 10, 15 years, it's going to be the Unreal 5 engine.
01:32:17.000 It's going to be some insanely sophisticated way where the moment you and I talk, we're going to have earbuds in and we're going to be able to speak all languages.
01:32:27.000 I'll know exactly what you're saying, you'll know exactly what I'm saying, and it'll be razor-focused.
01:32:32.000 It'll have it down to...
01:32:33.000 There'll be a few confusions in words and stuff like that, but they'll iron that shit out over time.
01:32:37.000 And then there'll be universal discussions.
01:32:41.000 Universal talk.
01:32:43.000 And then we'll all be connected into some sort of a hive mind.
01:32:47.000 Some sort of a matrix of frequencies that the brain is interacting with with all the other people around it.
01:32:53.000 So you're gonna be able to do all this without using words.
01:32:56.000 And we're all gonna be reading each other's minds.
01:32:58.000 And you're gonna know intentions.
01:33:00.000 You're gonna know truth.
01:33:01.000 You're gonna know deception.
01:33:02.000 You're gonna know hate, anger, lust.
01:33:04.000 You're gonna know when someone wants to fuck you.
01:33:06.000 You're gonna know when someone wants to run away from you.
01:33:09.000 You're gonna know everything.
01:33:10.000 Wow, that's going to be a different kind of person.
01:33:13.000 It's going to be a different kind of world.
01:33:14.000 People would say, oh my god, what would we even be then?
01:33:18.000 How could I live like that?
01:33:20.000 How could you live the way you live now in a metal box with rubber tires going 70 miles an hour down a hardened surface they threw over the grass so you can get to your air-conditioned house where you've got a refrigerator with food in it and sit in front of a television that just pumps in other people's artwork into your fucking brain so you Pass out.
01:33:40.000 And then you wake up in the morning and do it all again.
01:33:43.000 You don't think that's crazy?
01:33:45.000 It's a great description of it.
01:33:47.000 That's fucking insane!
01:33:50.000 That's insane and that's everyday life.
01:33:52.000 That's normal.
01:33:53.000 It's normal to be completely connected to your phone.
01:33:57.000 Incapable of leaving it in the house and going for a walk.
01:34:00.000 Yeah.
01:34:01.000 Yeah.
01:34:02.000 And we live like that now, and we've figured it out, so we'll figure it out.
01:34:05.000 The mind-reading thing's coming, son.
01:34:07.000 It's coming.
01:34:08.000 It's going to be a totally different way of thinking, just like right now with the internet and with the access to information that we have now.
01:34:14.000 It's a completely different way of finding out what's true or what's not true.
01:34:17.000 Yeah, even if you think about the way the world's changed just by how criminals can't get away with doing crime.
01:34:23.000 There's cameras everywhere.
01:34:24.000 There's DNA. Everywhere.
01:34:25.000 I think that's probably why serial killers have gone away.
01:34:29.000 They haven't.
01:34:29.000 Well, I mean, they've lessened a lot, right?
01:34:32.000 Yeah, but there's a lot of random, you could do random stuff.
01:34:35.000 Robot reimagines the digital experience with AI-powered R1 device?
01:34:41.000 What is that?
01:34:41.000 It's called a rabbit.
01:34:42.000 What is it?
01:34:42.000 I just got shown at CES. Just the video that Lewis made from Unbox Therapy describes it pretty quickly.
01:34:47.000 I was trying to find a better video, but this, I think, does it a really good job.
01:34:50.000 This kind of replaces the phone and we'll see if people realize it.
01:34:57.000 It's got a grill on it.
01:34:58.000 It could be for the speaker.
01:35:00.000 It could be for the mic.
01:35:01.000 Oh, it's definitely a hardware device.
01:35:24.000 Massage my prostate.
01:35:26.000 Well, I mean...
01:35:27.000 Feed me cake.
01:35:29.000 Massage my prostate.
01:35:30.000 Figure out what my wife wants to eat.
01:35:31.000 And it goes, can't compute.
01:35:32.000 It costs $200, and it's coming out very soon.
01:35:35.000 But it can do stuff for you.
01:35:38.000 Right, but the thing about phones is social media.
01:35:42.000 It's TikTok.
01:35:43.000 It's YouTube.
01:35:44.000 It's Instagram.
01:35:45.000 It's being able to see things over and over and over and over again.
01:35:48.000 If that doesn't have a screen, or that little bitch-ass screen, and it's mostly just talking into it...
01:35:54.000 There's other devices that are coming out now to replacing that.
01:35:56.000 There's these very simple, they're cheap too, 27-inch screens that will follow you around your house.
01:36:01.000 What?
01:36:02.000 They're with you all the time.
01:36:02.000 27 inches?
01:36:03.000 Yeah, touch screen.
01:36:04.000 It follows you?
01:36:04.000 It's full of apps.
01:36:05.000 I'm sure it's an Android device.
01:36:06.000 So wait a minute, does it float?
01:36:08.000 It sucks.
01:36:09.000 Like a robot?
01:36:10.000 Right now it's like a little Roomba robot that can charge for seven hours.
01:36:13.000 Can you imagine everywhere you walk you have a giant screen with you, you get nothing done.
01:36:16.000 Yeah.
01:36:17.000 How about the Apple goggles are coming out?
01:36:20.000 That's the other part of it too.
01:36:21.000 You're going to decide if you want to wear these goggles or here's the LG one.
01:36:24.000 So what I was saying though about that Galaxy phone is AI that allows you to translate like that now allows you to do a bunch of other different things.
01:36:32.000 One of the things it allows you to do, like if there's a photo, like if someone sends you something, you just circle it and you'll do an immediate Google search of what that thing is.
01:36:40.000 It'll tell you what that thing is.
01:36:42.000 You can buy it.
01:36:44.000 It'll give you links where it's for sale.
01:36:46.000 It'll give you a history on it.
01:36:47.000 It'll take you to a Wikipedia page and whatever that thing is.
01:36:50.000 Yeah, it's like ChatGBT does that pretty well now.
01:36:52.000 But it's in your phone.
01:36:53.000 It's in your phone, yeah.
01:36:54.000 You just circle things.
01:36:55.000 Yeah.
01:36:55.000 It just goes right to them.
01:36:57.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:36:58.000 And it's also able to summarize things now.
01:37:01.000 Like, say if you sit down with your phone and you make a bunch of voice notes.
01:37:06.000 Like, you go on a rant about something.
01:37:08.000 You're like, I know there's something funny in this.
01:37:09.000 I don't want to work it out totally on stage.
01:37:11.000 Let me work it out in my office.
01:37:13.000 And you just go on a rant about this thing.
01:37:15.000 It will then transcribe it, and then you can say, summarize this for me.
01:37:20.000 And we'll summarize it into bullet points and paragraphs.
01:37:23.000 Yeah, well I know now.
01:37:25.000 On your phone!
01:37:25.000 Yeah.
01:37:26.000 With ChatGBT, you could go on there now and go, give me a joke in the style of Joe Rogan, and it'll give you a joke, and then people could probably just change a few things.
01:37:36.000 I don't know what being genuine is going to mean in the future.
01:37:40.000 Well, I think it's going to lead us to be more inclined to give in to this mind-reading thing because the opposite is going to be too much chaos.
01:37:51.000 It's one or the other.
01:37:53.000 It's either complete chaos, you never know what's true, or you know everything that's true.
01:37:57.000 And we all have to agree that this is the best way.
01:37:59.000 The thing about that is if everybody has to wear it, dictators, everyone, that ruins the entire hustle.
01:38:06.000 It ruins everything.
01:38:09.000 Instantaneously, you can't pull off anything anymore.
01:38:12.000 All the people in Congress that are committing insider trading, all the people that are in the military-industrial complex that are inflating dangers to try to get us involved in a military conflict that's going to get them a giant fat contract, They're gonna make large dollars.
01:38:28.000 And then if you try to persecute somebody for a thought that they had, then they'll find out that if you had the same thought, they're like, you're full of shit, man!
01:38:38.000 Or they'll also give...
01:38:39.000 Why are they mad at you for that?
01:38:41.000 Are they really upset?
01:38:42.000 Are they being...
01:38:44.000 Charitable with their assessment of the way you think and behave?
01:38:47.000 Or are they just trying to play some stupid social game and win some little conflict with you and just get...
01:38:54.000 You think it'll get that sophisticated?
01:38:55.000 Will it understand the context of your feelings?
01:38:58.000 100%.
01:38:58.000 Yeah, I think it'll be a new language.
01:39:01.000 I think it'll eventually evolve into a universal language.
01:39:05.000 So if we're going to be interconnected with AI, which with this new Galaxy phone, the S24 Ultra, you clearly are interconnected with AI in your phone.
01:39:17.000 It's actually built in your phone.
01:39:18.000 They've engineered the chip to work specifically with AI in that phone.
01:39:25.000 This stuff is only gonna get better, man.
01:39:28.000 It's only gonna get better.
01:39:29.000 And I see it getting better to a point where we're probably going to be integrated.
01:39:38.000 Physically with these things whether it's something that you wear like a little headset that you wear or something that they put in your body and It's going to be way better with it than it is without it in the beginning most people aren't going to do it But once they get it dialed in and they've developed some sort of whether it's Neuralink and there's a bunch of different competitors are doing similar sorts of technology Once they figure out a way to really enhance your brain And really enhance your ability to gather information and process information and
01:40:09.000 supercharge it.
01:40:10.000 Everybody that has that will have such a significant advantage over everybody that doesn't that we have a real risk of people not doing it.
01:40:20.000 Right.
01:40:20.000 People are going to have to do it.
01:40:23.000 It just takes over the world.
01:40:24.000 What if the people that do it just are the worst people alive, and they just use that as to, we're going to lock everything down, starve the world out, central bank digital currency, fucking drones everywhere, no one gets away with anything, no one gets a chip but me.
01:40:40.000 Right, right.
01:40:41.000 If you become a god, you become a super genius.
01:40:44.000 And there's no way to stop the progression of technology.
01:40:47.000 Impossible.
01:40:48.000 The only way is an asteroid.
01:40:49.000 Something big.
01:40:51.000 We'd have to have a natural disaster that sends us back into the Stone Age.
01:40:55.000 That might be the only way to stop AI. Right.
01:40:58.000 Or nuclear war.
01:40:59.000 We can divert that with nuclear weapons or something.
01:41:02.000 Maybe that will come in handy.
01:41:04.000 I don't think they can do that yet.
01:41:05.000 Yeah, they probably can.
01:41:06.000 I don't think they can do that yet.
01:41:07.000 But hopefully they will be able to.
01:41:08.000 Maybe.
01:41:09.000 Someday.
01:41:09.000 Yeah.
01:41:10.000 But right now, I don't think they can do that.
01:41:11.000 I think we're pretty far out.
01:41:13.000 Yeah.
01:41:14.000 Something's going to hit us eventually.
01:41:15.000 A hundred percent.
01:41:17.000 Yeah.
01:41:17.000 Something was going to get us.
01:41:18.000 You look at the moon, it's just been fucking hit so many times.
01:41:22.000 Yeah.
01:41:22.000 He's like a teenage kid with terrible acne.
01:41:25.000 Looks like it's bad.
01:41:27.000 Accutane commercial.
01:41:28.000 Yeah.
01:41:29.000 Yeah, we've been hit, man.
01:41:32.000 100%.
01:41:32.000 And we're going to get hit again.
01:41:33.000 We're in a shooting gallery.
01:41:34.000 Yeah.
01:41:35.000 Flying around through the universe in a shooting gallery.
01:41:37.000 There's things just flying out there.
01:41:40.000 Yeah, it's a mad race.
01:41:41.000 It's a mad race to get to the point where you can defend it.
01:41:44.000 Have the technology and the ability to manipulate...
01:41:47.000 Whether it's asteroids, comets, natural disasters, super volcanoes, being able to manipulate things in real time.
01:41:54.000 And once you have kids, you root for them.
01:41:55.000 You're like, let's do it.
01:41:56.000 Let's keep going.
01:41:58.000 Yeah.
01:41:58.000 I can understand people who don't have kids.
01:42:00.000 They're like, who cares?
01:42:01.000 Let it blow up.
01:42:01.000 But once you have kids, you're like, no, survive.
01:42:04.000 Let's all survive.
01:42:05.000 Keep it going.
01:42:05.000 I get the, I don't want to have kids.
01:42:07.000 I don't want the responsibility.
01:42:08.000 I get it.
01:42:08.000 But what I don't get is that, you know, the world does need more people.
01:42:15.000 Do you like people?
01:42:16.000 Because I like people.
01:42:17.000 Love people.
01:42:18.000 My favorite friends are people.
01:42:20.000 Yeah, that's what we're doing here is making people.
01:42:23.000 Yeah.
01:42:23.000 That's what we're supposed to do.
01:42:24.000 I love people.
01:42:24.000 I love people.
01:42:25.000 The idea that we shouldn't make more people seems fucking insane.
01:42:28.000 It's crazy, especially when you do it and then you feel the love that you have for your kids and you're like, this is the greatest thing.
01:42:35.000 And then you just become a better person.
01:42:36.000 Yeah.
01:42:37.000 You just become...
01:42:38.000 Everything about it is positive.
01:42:39.000 Everything about having kids is positive.
01:42:41.000 For most people.
01:42:43.000 I can't see how it's negative unless you're a fucked up person.
01:42:48.000 But if you're a little bit of a fucked up person, having kids makes you a better person.
01:42:52.000 I've definitely seen that happen before, where people experience the love of their child and they just straighten their life out.
01:42:57.000 But I've also seen people fall apart.
01:43:00.000 Yeah.
01:43:01.000 Well, you know, some people just, they fall apart, man.
01:43:05.000 Some people fall apart.
01:43:06.000 But they were going to fall apart over something else anyway.
01:43:08.000 Yeah.
01:43:09.000 Anything.
01:43:10.000 Yeah.
01:43:10.000 Some people just, they want, they get addicted also to being picked up.
01:43:14.000 They want to fall apart.
01:43:15.000 They want all the attention that comes with falling apart.
01:43:18.000 Yeah, you've got your borderline personalities and people like that.
01:43:23.000 Humans are fascinating.
01:43:25.000 So fascinating.
01:43:25.000 They're more fascinating than the universe.
01:43:27.000 They're so complex.
01:43:30.000 That's why one-dimensional, politically-minded, ideology-driven people online are so insane to me.
01:43:39.000 So insane to have that view of humans.
01:43:44.000 You have this completely binary view of humans.
01:43:49.000 The good people and the bad people, the right and the left, and like, you know, the morons and the smart people in the room.
01:43:55.000 Like, okay.
01:43:56.000 Well, we have these loopholes in our, like, the confirmation bias.
01:44:00.000 We have just these loopholes where we can be manipulated.
01:44:03.000 It's just...
01:44:05.000 That's how cults get started.
01:44:06.000 Yeah, it's there.
01:44:07.000 It's a weakness.
01:44:08.000 It's a vulnerability that people have that they're almost defenseless to.
01:44:14.000 Like, they're subconscious.
01:44:17.000 Manipulative people know how to hack that shit.
01:44:19.000 They know how to manipulate.
01:44:20.000 They do it.
01:44:21.000 They do it very effectively.
01:44:22.000 Marketers do it all the time.
01:44:24.000 Advertisers do it all the time.
01:44:25.000 And it works.
01:44:26.000 There's this guy, Darren Brown.
01:44:27.000 Nobody explained it better than Darren Brown, who's this medium.
01:44:30.000 You know who he is?
01:44:31.000 I've had him on.
01:44:32.000 Oh man, he's the...
01:44:33.000 If everyone just watched him manipulate people and then explain how he did it, you'd be like, yeah.
01:44:42.000 We're all prey to this.
01:44:44.000 Nobody can see it coming.
01:44:45.000 That one episode where he convinces that...
01:44:48.000 I think he's a famous comedian in England.
01:44:49.000 It was the craziest thing.
01:44:51.000 He brings him in.
01:44:52.000 He makes him write a week ago what his ideal gift would be.
01:44:56.000 And then he makes it put it in an envelope and his ideal present and seal it up.
01:45:03.000 And then he brings it in.
01:45:03.000 Then he brings it in a room.
01:45:04.000 He puts him through this whole thing and he goes, okay, now what's your ideal present?
01:45:09.000 And he changes it to the thing that he wanted it to be.
01:45:12.000 He's like, it's a red bike.
01:45:12.000 I want a red bike.
01:45:14.000 And then he opens the box.
01:45:15.000 It's a red bike.
01:45:16.000 And then they opened the letter to see what he said.
01:45:18.000 And it was a leather jacket.
01:45:19.000 And even he forgot what he wanted.
01:45:23.000 And he said, I walked into the room going, leather jacket, leather jacket.
01:45:26.000 But he manipulated him with suggestion and images and words that he said.
01:45:31.000 And he changed what his actual ideal gift would be.
01:45:37.000 And then he explains to you how he did it.
01:45:39.000 He shows you how he did it.
01:45:41.000 You're like, none of us have the defenses to stop that.
01:45:44.000 That's crazy.
01:45:45.000 Well, it's just like that thing that you were saying that you do for your mind.
01:45:49.000 EDMR. Like, there's a...
01:45:51.000 You can kind of, like, hack it.
01:45:52.000 Yeah, hack it.
01:45:52.000 You hack it.
01:45:53.000 You hack the brain.
01:45:54.000 And then reprocess the memories, which essentially, after you reprocess the memories, you end up remembering them that way, and the emotional charge gets removed, and that's how it goes.
01:46:03.000 Now, imagine...
01:46:06.000 AI hacking it.
01:46:08.000 Yeah.
01:46:08.000 And that's what these chips are gonna be.
01:46:10.000 That's what these things, whatever these things are that are gonna be in your brain, they're gonna map it out.
01:46:15.000 They're gonna find out why things do this and why things do that and just reprogram the whole thing.
01:46:20.000 It's gonna be crazy.
01:46:22.000 It's gonna happen in our lifetime.
01:46:24.000 It's crazy.
01:46:24.000 We're the last of the meat humans.
01:46:31.000 We're gonna have metal in us.
01:46:33.000 Yeah.
01:46:34.000 Not just metal.
01:46:35.000 Silicone.
01:46:36.000 Technology.
01:46:37.000 Batteries.
01:46:38.000 We're the last of the meat humans.
01:46:40.000 Do you think our body's gonna reject it at first?
01:46:42.000 People will get, like, infections, cancers.
01:46:44.000 Like, you can't just put something in the brain.
01:46:46.000 The body rejects foreign objects.
01:46:48.000 Yeah, it does, but it doesn't.
01:46:50.000 Pacemakers work.
01:46:51.000 There's a lot of things that work.
01:46:52.000 True, true.
01:46:52.000 You just have to find something that's hypoallergenic and find something that's maybe organic.
01:46:57.000 Something that the body will integrate, just like it integrates with titanium neck discs.
01:47:02.000 True, you're right.
01:47:03.000 Well, you've got to take some antibiotics and shit.
01:47:06.000 No, you don't have to if you get plates in your arms and shit.
01:47:09.000 No.
01:47:09.000 If you get a broken arm and they put screws in there and plates, you don't have to...
01:47:13.000 Nothing.
01:47:13.000 Take antibiotics forever?
01:47:15.000 You do initially.
01:47:16.000 Yeah, initially.
01:47:16.000 That's just because you've been cut.
01:47:17.000 It really has nothing to do with the metal.
01:47:19.000 Oh, okay.
01:47:19.000 You've just been cut open and you're exposed and, you know, you get MRSA, you know, medication-resistant staph infections.
01:47:28.000 No good.
01:47:29.000 Those put people in the hospital for months.
01:47:30.000 They kill people.
01:47:31.000 They kill people.
01:47:32.000 That's some sketchy shit.
01:47:34.000 So if you can put a titanium rod in your shin, they could put a little fucking thing in your spinal cord.
01:47:41.000 Just a little fucking thing that you screw in place every day.
01:47:46.000 You know, you leave it charging by the bed when you go to sleep and screw it back in place and...
01:47:50.000 It's gonna be insane.
01:47:53.000 Locked into the real matrix.
01:47:54.000 What would a conversation be like if we knew what was going...
01:47:57.000 You'd be like, Giannis, calm down.
01:47:58.000 I know you're nervous.
01:47:59.000 Just relax.
01:48:00.000 No, no, no.
01:48:01.000 That's...
01:48:01.000 You'd be like, no, no, no.
01:48:02.000 Well, the argument is we're going to create an artificial life.
01:48:05.000 And I'd be like, Joe, pay attention.
01:48:06.000 I know you're thinking about Marshall.
01:48:07.000 Stop it.
01:48:08.000 I'm here.
01:48:09.000 We'd be like, it may be weird at first.
01:48:11.000 It may be weird, yeah.
01:48:11.000 At first?
01:48:12.000 It'd probably be annoying.
01:48:13.000 Yeah.
01:48:13.000 It'd be the end of art.
01:48:14.000 Yeah.
01:48:15.000 I'd say thank you and Jamie would be like, for what?
01:48:17.000 I'd be like, well, Joe just thought that my hair looks good.
01:48:22.000 He would just say thank you with your mind.
01:48:23.000 Yeah.
01:48:24.000 He would go like that.
01:48:24.000 So we'd just sit in silence?
01:48:26.000 Yeah.
01:48:26.000 We'd just sit and make facial expressions at each other?
01:48:27.000 That was one of the first things Elon said about it.
01:48:29.000 He said, he's going to be able to talk without words.
01:48:31.000 Yeah.
01:48:32.000 Do you think he'll be more socially good?
01:48:39.000 Him?
01:48:40.000 Yeah.
01:48:40.000 Yeah.
01:48:41.000 You think his mind version will be really on it, as far as timing and socially?
01:48:46.000 Because sometimes he'll pause.
01:48:49.000 But he pauses because he actually thinks.
01:48:50.000 He's thinking.
01:48:51.000 He's not bullshitting you.
01:48:53.000 Yeah.
01:48:53.000 If you ask him a question, and it's a complex question, he'll sit there.
01:48:57.000 Yeah.
01:48:57.000 And he'll run it through his head and really think.
01:48:59.000 That's the sign of a genuine, intelligent person.
01:49:02.000 That's genius shit, yeah.
01:49:02.000 That's not a person who's just bullshitting for the masses.
01:49:05.000 Yeah.
01:49:06.000 It's understandable that he's socially a little weird because his brain is doing a lot of fucking shit.
01:49:10.000 Yeah.
01:49:11.000 His brain's going through a lot of things.
01:49:14.000 Yeah, I asked him about it.
01:49:15.000 I'm like, what's it like being you?
01:49:16.000 He goes, you wouldn't want to be me.
01:49:18.000 His brain's just going.
01:49:19.000 Because I thought everybody was like that when I was young, that everyone just had these ideas just running through their head all day long.
01:49:25.000 Yeah.
01:49:25.000 It took them a while to realize.
01:49:27.000 Yeah.
01:49:28.000 Some people don't.
01:49:30.000 Some people don't.
01:49:30.000 Most people don't.
01:49:33.000 But I mean, that's the kind of guy you need if you want someone who makes electric cars and rockets and fucking satellite internet and buys Twitter.
01:49:40.000 And that's why you need a system like we have that allows those people to rise.
01:49:45.000 Yeah.
01:49:45.000 Yeah.
01:49:46.000 Well, also, you need a guy with balls.
01:49:49.000 Like Elon had the balls to step in and buy Twitter.
01:49:53.000 Yeah.
01:49:54.000 And reinstate some fucking shaky ass people.
01:49:57.000 Yeah.
01:49:58.000 I mean, that's a loss there because the advertisers are probably like, hey, who are you putting back on?
01:50:02.000 Yeah.
01:50:02.000 And then he said when they were like, you're going to blackmail me with money?
01:50:05.000 Fuck you.
01:50:06.000 Yeah.
01:50:06.000 Go fuck yourself.
01:50:07.000 Go fuck yourself.
01:50:09.000 Yeah.
01:50:09.000 Yeah.
01:50:10.000 I mean, that's really how he feels.
01:50:12.000 Yeah.
01:50:12.000 When you've got that kind of scratch and he just keeps making more money, you know, how much is SpaceX going to be worth?
01:50:19.000 You know, how much is the boring company going to work once they start actually fixing traffic with tunnels, shooting cars on the ground?
01:50:26.000 I mean, this is an insane guy.
01:50:28.000 Yeah.
01:50:28.000 Well, he's essentially done what, like, Walmart does to small businesses, but he did it for a good reason to try to promote free speech.
01:50:35.000 Because Walmart just goes in, loses money for a bit until they charge you cheaper, lose money for a bit until they put you out of business, and then they recoup their losses.
01:50:42.000 Well, I wouldn't connect it to that.
01:50:44.000 I wouldn't compare it to that.
01:50:45.000 What I would say is this is probably, from what I've read, I haven't actually discussed this with him, But what I've read is that this is one step in a multi-step process of turning Twitter, now X, into an app you use for everything.
01:50:59.000 You use for banking.
01:51:00.000 They already have an AI that's attached to it.
01:51:03.000 Was it called Grok?
01:51:04.000 Yeah.
01:51:05.000 Why is it called Grok?
01:51:06.000 What does Grok stand for?
01:51:07.000 Grok means like, do you understand?
01:51:10.000 Because the word Grok means like, do you understand?
01:51:12.000 Do you fathom it?
01:51:13.000 Do you...
01:51:14.000 Oh, really?
01:51:14.000 Yeah.
01:51:15.000 In what language?
01:51:15.000 In English.
01:51:16.000 Oh, really?
01:51:17.000 Yeah, Grok.
01:51:17.000 G-R-O-K. No shit.
01:51:18.000 Yeah.
01:51:19.000 Whoa.
01:51:21.000 Oh, that's a perfect name for AI then.
01:51:22.000 Yeah.
01:51:22.000 That's the...
01:51:25.000 That's so cool.
01:51:25.000 I've literally never heard that word.
01:51:27.000 It's not a word used a lot.
01:51:29.000 That's actually the reason it says that's why they named it that.
01:51:31.000 Ah, that makes sense.
01:51:33.000 So they have the AI, right?
01:51:34.000 So they have Grok.
01:51:35.000 Now just think about how much open AI is worth.
01:51:39.000 The AI model called Grok.
01:51:40.000 Oh, you son of a bitch.
01:51:42.000 She's a motherfucker.
01:51:42.000 Yeah, they always make you try to subscribe.
01:51:45.000 Motherfuckers in your goddamn...
01:51:47.000 The AI model called Grok, a name that means to understand in tech circles, is designed to answer questions with a bit of wit and has a rebellious streak.
01:51:54.000 So please don't use it if you hate humor.
01:51:56.000 Reads an announcement on the company's website.
01:51:58.000 Okay.
01:52:00.000 But how much is OpenAI worth?
01:52:04.000 How much is that company worth?
01:52:05.000 How much is ChatGPT worth?
01:52:07.000 Just Google that.
01:52:08.000 What's ChatGPT worth?
01:52:11.000 So ChatGPT is the one that people have been using and talking about more than any of the other ones.
01:52:17.000 I do know that Microsoft has one.
01:52:20.000 So it's worth what?
01:52:22.000 How much?
01:52:24.000 What is the value of chat GPD? How much is chat?
01:52:30.000 Yeah.
01:52:32.000 $29 billion.
01:52:33.000 Okay.
01:52:34.000 According to ZachJohnson.com.
01:52:36.000 OpenAI is an American research organization with a current net worth of approximately $29 billion.
01:52:42.000 This one says $100 billion.
01:52:43.000 This is December 23rd.
01:52:45.000 So this is really recently.
01:52:46.000 OpenAI valuation of $100 billion in sight with funding.
01:52:51.000 Round, and that's from Fortune.
01:52:52.000 Okay, so it's in sight.
01:52:54.000 So let's just call it 80 billion.
01:52:56.000 Well, he bought for Twitter for 44. So even if Twitter's only worth 19 now, if this grok takes off, there is a potential to be a competitor to something like this and to be just as big.
01:53:08.000 Yeah.
01:53:08.000 If people really start using AI for everything, and it seems like they're going to start using it, and they can incorporate it into devices and a bunch of different things and different ways to use it, So you have that.
01:53:17.000 Then you have multimedia streaming.
01:53:19.000 He's doing the Tucker Carlson show, which is there.
01:53:21.000 And I think you made a deal.
01:53:23.000 Don Lemon.
01:53:23.000 Yeah.
01:53:24.000 Who's going to watch that?
01:53:26.000 Maybe it'll be a wild version of Don Lemon.
01:53:28.000 I mean, it's a wild version of Tucker Carlson now.
01:53:30.000 Liquored up.
01:53:30.000 Yeah.
01:53:31.000 Liquored up Don Lemon talking shit.
01:53:33.000 Yeah.
01:53:33.000 I mean, Tucker's not the same Tucker.
01:53:35.000 I mean, he's interviewing the guy, that con man who said he fucking blew Obama or whatever.
01:53:41.000 Yeah.
01:53:42.000 So he's having fun.
01:53:43.000 That one's wild.
01:53:43.000 Yeah.
01:53:44.000 That one's wild.
01:53:44.000 What are you doing?
01:53:49.000 What are you doing, bro?
01:53:50.000 It's a little different.
01:53:52.000 Why are you interviewing the guy who blew Obama?
01:53:54.000 That's crazy.
01:53:55.000 Who had a huge record of conning and being a liar.
01:54:00.000 Did he have a huge record of being conning?
01:54:02.000 Oh, huge.
01:54:03.000 Huge.
01:54:03.000 Why do I want to believe him, though?
01:54:05.000 Because it's fun.
01:54:07.000 It's fun as fuck!
01:54:09.000 But when you look at the guy, he's got, like, charges all, like, his whole background is conning.
01:54:13.000 Well, he's a hustler.
01:54:14.000 Yeah.
01:54:15.000 He's a, you know, a gay hustler.
01:54:16.000 I mean, that's basically what he's saying openly that he did with Obama.
01:54:20.000 Yeah.
01:54:20.000 With money, he got coke and gave him sex.
01:54:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:54:23.000 Yeah.
01:54:23.000 Yeah.
01:54:24.000 And Tucker's like, I believe it.
01:54:26.000 Tucker's like, I believe this guy.
01:54:27.000 It's so crazy to have that guy on your show.
01:54:29.000 Especially when just Googling his background.
01:54:31.000 And he's not a new guy.
01:54:33.000 He's been around for a while.
01:54:33.000 He's come up in other political campaigns and stuff.
01:54:37.000 I think what Tucker's doing is brilliant.
01:54:39.000 First of all, I think going over to Twitter was brilliant.
01:54:42.000 Because so many people were paying attention to it then.
01:54:45.000 And the numbers were giant.
01:54:46.000 Like crazy numbers for some of the episodes.
01:54:48.000 Then you go to a subscription model.
01:54:50.000 Like nine bucks a month or something like that.
01:54:52.000 Whatever it is.
01:54:53.000 You know how many people are going to sign up for that?
01:54:54.000 Yeah, the subscription model is the best way to stay free.
01:54:58.000 You got to stay free.
01:54:59.000 Yeah.
01:55:00.000 If you're not free, you're fucked.
01:55:01.000 Yeah.
01:55:01.000 The only way in the future is going to be subscription models.
01:55:06.000 Most of these companies, like if you're on YouTube right now, you have to watch what you're saying.
01:55:09.000 I don't really want Spotify.
01:55:11.000 Spotify is pretty fucking good.
01:55:12.000 But for the most part, with a lot of these social media companies and these companies that are producing these things, they have a very clear mindset as to what is acceptable and not acceptable.
01:55:24.000 Yeah, Spotify kind of stuck by you during all these controversies.
01:55:28.000 I want you to imagine if Tucker Carlson had a YouTube show and he brought on the guy that blew Obama.
01:55:33.000 It was just a YouTube show.
01:55:34.000 I'm tuning in, even though I know it's a joke.
01:55:37.000 You're tuning in, but don't you think they'd pull it?
01:55:39.000 Don't you think they'd matter?
01:55:40.000 Okay, let's imagine it's Theo Vaughn has the guy on the blue Obama.
01:55:44.000 Now it's over.
01:55:45.000 They're going to yank him.
01:55:46.000 100%.
01:55:48.000 Probably yank Tucker more because Tucker was...
01:55:51.000 Theo would probably have a lot more fun with that.
01:55:54.000 Yeah, but you can get rid of Theo and getting rid of Tucker is more of a stink.
01:55:58.000 Right.
01:55:58.000 You know, like Theo Peloton contacted him when he had Robert Kennedy Jr. on.
01:56:04.000 Peloton was like, get rid of that episode.
01:56:07.000 Right.
01:56:07.000 And then Dana White found out about it and threw out all the Pelotons.
01:56:10.000 I heard about that.
01:56:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:56:13.000 Just, like, companies have a very clear idea of what you should be able to say and not be able to say.
01:56:18.000 Yeah.
01:56:18.000 And for comics, in particular, that's a real problem.
01:56:22.000 Yeah, well, you can't blame the companies.
01:56:24.000 They're just thinking about their bottom line.
01:56:26.000 Yeah.
01:56:26.000 I mean, we would do the same if we worked for those companies.
01:56:29.000 Sure.
01:56:29.000 If you're just a numbers guy.
01:56:31.000 Yeah, you're just a numbers guy.
01:56:32.000 Hey, we don't want to be attached to that.
01:56:34.000 Yeah, we need advertiser revenue.
01:56:35.000 Yeah.
01:56:35.000 It's not even about going, like, hey, pro-con.
01:56:37.000 They're like, we know it's a hot-button topic for people or whatever, and we don't want to get into it.
01:56:42.000 We want to sell bikes.
01:56:43.000 That's why what Elon did is so wild.
01:56:46.000 You know?
01:56:47.000 That's really why it's so wild.
01:56:48.000 I mean, everybody's back on X. Everybody.
01:56:52.000 Hollywood Hogan.
01:56:53.000 People should be back on it.
01:56:53.000 He's like Hollywood Hogan.
01:56:55.000 He switched from Hulk Hogan to Hollywood Hogan.
01:56:57.000 Dun-dun-dun.
01:56:58.000 NWO. X. Everybody's back.
01:57:02.000 Everybody.
01:57:02.000 You see everything up there.
01:57:03.000 Mm-hmm.
01:57:04.000 Yeah.
01:57:04.000 It's pretty interesting, isn't it?
01:57:06.000 Well, yeah, there's a lot of good, but yeah.
01:57:09.000 There's a lot of not so good.
01:57:10.000 I follow some people who are straight Nazis.
01:57:13.000 Oh, there's definitely straight Nazis on there.
01:57:14.000 Straight Nazis.
01:57:15.000 The Taliban's on there.
01:57:16.000 Yeah, I mean, everybody.
01:57:17.000 Taliban's on there.
01:57:18.000 The Nazis are on there.
01:57:19.000 Maybe that's good, though, because then you can see them and you know what they're doing as opposed to having them hide and then you don't know what they're up to.
01:57:27.000 Well, that was my argument about the feds infiltrating these terrorist organizations.
01:57:32.000 Like especially even things like, well, they couldn't even say if the feds were involved in January 6th.
01:57:39.000 Of course they can't say.
01:57:41.000 Because sometimes they have to be involved.
01:57:44.000 Whether or not they did instigate getting people to go into the Capitol, I don't think they wouldn't do that.
01:57:50.000 But what's more important is if you've got something that might be an insurrection, you kind of have to be there.
01:57:57.000 You're a part of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
01:58:01.000 You have to look into that.
01:58:03.000 But when it gets to the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer and you find out that there's 14 people involved and 12 of them are FBI informants, 12?
01:58:15.000 12 out of 14?
01:58:16.000 And these two fucking dopes get railroaded for the rest of their fucking life for some cosplay scheme in their head, their stupid 84 IQ head of going and kidnapping the governor and you find out it's all set up by federal informants?
01:58:32.000 I think you're doing it wrong.
01:58:34.000 Is that what happened?
01:58:35.000 Yep.
01:58:35.000 I'm not aware of that at all.
01:58:37.000 It's the greatest story.
01:58:39.000 That's verified.
01:58:41.000 Oh, yeah.
01:58:41.000 Pull it up, Jamie.
01:58:43.000 That's crazy.
01:58:44.000 Twelve of them were informants.
01:58:46.000 Well, the head of the Proud Boys was an FBI informant.
01:58:49.000 The head of the Brown Boys.
01:58:51.000 That's crazy.
01:58:52.000 He was an FBI informant?
01:58:53.000 Yes!
01:58:53.000 Wow.
01:58:54.000 And they still put him in jail.
01:58:55.000 That's dirty.
01:58:57.000 Dude, they...
01:58:58.000 That's dirty.
01:58:59.000 There was a story, a hilarious story back in the day.
01:59:00.000 That's like Whitey Bulger dirty.
01:59:02.000 Yeah, they did that.
01:59:03.000 Yeah.
01:59:03.000 That's another one.
01:59:04.000 Whitey Bulger was a fucking murderer, and he was working for the vets.
01:59:07.000 And he continued to murder as an FBI informant.
01:59:10.000 I think 12 of them were actually informants.
01:59:12.000 But they may have actually worked with the FBI in some form.
01:59:16.000 I don't know if it makes them an informant, though.
01:59:18.000 This says only four.
01:59:19.000 Jamie, are you an informant apologist?
01:59:21.000 That's what I'm getting out of here.
01:59:22.000 It says only four?
01:59:23.000 No, there's more than four.
01:59:24.000 I know there's more than four.
01:59:25.000 I was reading this very detailed breakdown of how many of the men had no connection to the FBI. Here, go to the AP News.
01:59:33.000 FBI lured men.
01:59:34.000 Yeah.
01:59:35.000 It says four, though.
01:59:36.000 I know.
01:59:37.000 That's the thing.
01:59:38.000 Wait a minute.
01:59:38.000 The four men charged with planning to kidnap...
01:59:41.000 How many other people were there that weren't those men that weren't charged?
01:59:45.000 Because the FBI informants weren't charged.
01:59:47.000 They said they were swayed by informants.
01:59:50.000 Exactly.
01:59:50.000 How many informants were there though?
01:59:55.000 Why don't you write how many FBI informants Whitmer kidnapping?
02:00:02.000 How many FBI informants?
02:00:08.000 What does it say here?
02:00:10.000 It says a total of 12 informants were ultimately involved in investigation.
02:00:13.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
02:00:14.000 So that's it.
02:00:15.000 That's the number that I'd heard.
02:00:16.000 A total of 12 informants.
02:00:18.000 According to BuzzFeed.
02:00:19.000 Well, I mean, this is right here.
02:00:22.000 This is the New York Times.
02:00:22.000 Yeah, let's see what they say.
02:00:23.000 Sometimes we don't believe in the New York Times.
02:00:25.000 Yeah, they were wrong about that fucking bombing of the hospital.
02:00:28.000 Yeah, they were.
02:00:30.000 I'm pretty sure that's the story.
02:00:33.000 I'm pretty sure there's 12 informants.
02:00:34.000 I'm not an informant defender.
02:00:37.000 Here you go.
02:00:38.000 The FBI deployed at least 12 informants as well as several undercover agents according to defense filings on the nighttime surveillance operation of the government's cottage.
02:00:49.000 For example, the defense described Big Dan as the main organizer.
02:00:53.000 Steven Robeson with a long history of both past crimes and work as an informant was there too.
02:00:57.000 The explosives expert who could topple a bridge was actually an undercover FBI agent as was the man in another vehicle.
02:01:05.000 The defense lawyers using the same trove of evidence material have built an entirely different scenario of what happened.
02:01:11.000 They depict an accused as a reluctant puppets Entrapped by the FBI agents and informants whom they say came up with a kidnapping plot.
02:01:20.000 Oh, so it's a he said, she said about whether the informants were just going along, getting the information, or actually pushing them to do it.
02:01:29.000 Well, they also had actual FBI agents that were pretending they were bomb experts who were going to blow up a fucking bridge.
02:01:37.000 Look, it's a scam.
02:01:38.000 Yeah.
02:01:39.000 It's a scam.
02:01:39.000 You gotta, you know, you gotta put out fire, so you start a fire.
02:01:43.000 You know, there's firefighters that have done that.
02:01:45.000 It's suspicious that the FBI was heavily involved the whole way through this.
02:01:49.000 It's very, it seems weird as, yeah, that's an understatement, yeah.
02:01:52.000 Why didn't you just arrest them if you thought they were planning on doing that?
02:01:55.000 And so if you see them there doing that, then you could easily say on January 6th they were there also rallying up morons.
02:02:03.000 Right.
02:02:03.000 The same type of people that would do that would do that.
02:02:06.000 Yeah, and they probably were because there are videos of people opening doors and shit.
02:02:09.000 So those videos are not...
02:02:11.000 Also telling people, let's go in there.
02:02:14.000 People calling them feds.
02:02:15.000 People still went in there.
02:02:16.000 They still did that.
02:02:17.000 They don't do that.
02:02:18.000 Yeah, you still have agency.
02:02:19.000 You're an adult.
02:02:20.000 They did it.
02:02:21.000 But, yeah, it doesn't seem as clean as people think.
02:02:24.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:02:27.000 Because they definitely wanted to make Trump look bad.
02:02:30.000 Oh, yeah.
02:02:30.000 They were constantly trying to make Trump look bad.
02:02:32.000 They tried to do it with Russia.
02:02:34.000 They've tried a lot of things to try to get that guy.
02:02:37.000 Yeah, and the videos that they show are like it's getting stormed by barbarians.
02:02:42.000 But then you see that dude getting a tour, the shaman dude with a buffalo hat on.
02:02:46.000 That's right.
02:02:47.000 Getting a tour.
02:02:47.000 The guards are taking him around, showing him around.
02:02:49.000 I thought he was violent.
02:02:50.000 A lot of different things happened in different places.
02:02:52.000 I thought it was an insurrection.
02:02:53.000 Yeah.
02:02:54.000 It seemed like a bunch of dopes just wandered into a building.
02:02:56.000 You know what?
02:02:57.000 They didn't know what to do.
02:02:58.000 One guy, though.
02:02:59.000 One guy had zip ties on.
02:03:00.000 Yeah, I think it was different people had different motivations.
02:03:04.000 100%.
02:03:04.000 And I think there might have been...
02:03:06.000 I mean, there's your evidence right there.
02:03:07.000 They were doing that there.
02:03:09.000 There's a good chance they were doing that on January 6th as well.
02:03:12.000 Kevin Bacon from the Netflix movie.
02:03:13.000 He would have zip ties.
02:03:14.000 Yeah.
02:03:15.000 Right?
02:03:16.000 Yeah.
02:03:16.000 You're gonna have different fucking people.
02:03:18.000 You got different people, yeah.
02:03:18.000 They're all going to that thing because they think that the election's been stolen.
02:03:22.000 Some guys are gonna show up with zip ties and that's when it gets scary.
02:03:25.000 Yeah.
02:03:25.000 That's when it gets scary.
02:03:26.000 That's when it's been interesting.
02:03:28.000 And knowing what's true and what's not true, it's not as easy as it used to be.
02:03:33.000 Nope.
02:03:34.000 And it's only going to get worse with AI. AI is going to make things super confusing.
02:03:39.000 Well, the scary thing about AI... I'm still more scared of people than AI. AI has been nothing but helpful to me.
02:03:45.000 For now.
02:03:45.000 For now, yeah.
02:03:46.000 I'm scared of people.
02:03:47.000 People do bad things.
02:03:49.000 But where it can get very dangerous is if you do an AI... Video of Putin saying, we're launching nukes, and then you think it's real, and then we launch the nukes, and...
02:03:58.000 Yeah.
02:04:00.000 Yeah, or fake, like, actual fake footage of an attack.
02:04:04.000 Yeah, we gotta stop war somehow.
02:04:06.000 Somehow.
02:04:07.000 Somehow we gotta fucking...
02:04:08.000 How do we do that, Giannis Papas?
02:04:10.000 You're a smart guy.
02:04:11.000 God!
02:04:12.000 I don't know.
02:04:13.000 Maybe we get people to do this thing with eyeballs.
02:04:15.000 Maybe the EDMR. Maybe sitting Putin down and being like, what's this really?
02:04:18.000 Your mother did what?
02:04:19.000 Let's talk about your mom.
02:04:21.000 What's it about?
02:04:21.000 And then sit down.
02:04:23.000 I don't know.
02:04:24.000 Because like you said, yeah, obviously NATO, you know, China was interested in Ukraine.
02:04:32.000 NATO was interested in the former Eastern Bloc as well.
02:04:35.000 But the Eastern Bloc is very interested in joining NATO. Finland's interested in joining NATO, not because NATO's manipulating them.
02:04:43.000 A lot of these theories just forget that these countries have agency.
02:04:47.000 Oh, for sure.
02:04:48.000 But that's not the theory about the red line that Putin had with Ukraine.
02:04:52.000 That's very specific.
02:04:53.000 Ukraine wants to be part of NATO. They want to be a democracy.
02:04:56.000 The majority of them do.
02:04:57.000 That's why they're fighting.
02:04:58.000 I mean, they're fighting.
02:04:59.000 We're not forcing them to fight.
02:05:00.000 They are fighting and dying.
02:05:02.000 They don't want to be part of Putin's world.
02:05:06.000 They don't want to be part of Russia's influence, and Putin doesn't like that.
02:05:11.000 And, you know, all those other former Soviet republics, too, that are now...
02:05:19.000 You know, part of NATO or aligned with NATO. They're aligned with NATO as a precautionary measure to against Soviet expansion or former Soviet expansion or the threat of it.
02:05:29.000 Doesn't it suck that you even have to think about this?
02:05:32.000 It does suck.
02:05:33.000 But we see it from here.
02:05:35.000 But when you go and you talk to people in Finland and places that the Soviet Union did invade and didn't conquer and did force into their republic, you know, the USSR... They have a different view of it.
02:05:47.000 I mean, you know, it's like it depends on who you talk to, right?
02:05:50.000 So it's like, to your point, it's very complicated over there.
02:05:53.000 It's like Israel and Palestine, it is complicated.
02:05:55.000 You have to go all the way back to the beginning because the Jews made that land important to them for religious reasons because they used to be there.
02:06:02.000 So it's like you have to go all the way back to that in order to understand the conflict now.
02:06:07.000 Isn't it wild, though, that from October 7th to January 18th, just a few months, it goes from Horror and outrage at this terrorist attack on a rave, on a music festival,
02:06:22.000 entering these people's homes and shooting them and killing them and torture them, sending them cell phone videos of you killing and torturing people to their families.
02:06:30.000 It goes from that to death to the Jews.
02:06:34.000 Just a couple of months.
02:06:35.000 The Jews got sympathy for about a minute and 30 seconds.
02:06:38.000 For just a couple of months.
02:06:39.000 Yeah.
02:06:41.000 But then you see what they did to Gaza, and you go, yeah, that seems kind of crazy.
02:06:46.000 That's a little heavy.
02:06:47.000 That's bad.
02:06:48.000 That's very bad.
02:06:49.000 And I'm against all bad things.
02:06:51.000 It seems like they erased the city.
02:06:52.000 Yeah.
02:06:53.000 When you look at it now, like from an overhead, what it used to be versus what it is now, have you seen that lately?
02:06:59.000 It's horrific.
02:07:00.000 It's crazy.
02:07:01.000 It's horrific, and it's bad, and those people could never, I don't think, live together.
02:07:09.000 That's a blow that you don't shake off.
02:07:13.000 You don't turn the other cheek.
02:07:14.000 And that's what they're doing, and that's why they're doing it.
02:07:16.000 They're doing that, going like...
02:07:18.000 But it also, I think, makes Israel look really bad.
02:07:22.000 Look at this, dude.
02:07:23.000 They leveled the whole place.
02:07:24.000 I mean, this is like...
02:07:25.000 Wait, are you sure it's not Aleppo, though?
02:07:27.000 Because I know a lot of times videos say it's Gaza, and then sometimes it'll be Syria.
02:07:32.000 Either way, they're bad.
02:07:33.000 This is The Guardian.
02:07:36.000 Sometimes you just gotta make sure.
02:07:37.000 I think The Guardian's on it.
02:07:39.000 This is insane, dude.
02:07:40.000 It's insane.
02:07:41.000 No, they leveled the whole place.
02:07:43.000 It's so much.
02:07:44.000 So much damage.
02:07:46.000 And it looks like apartment buildings.
02:07:48.000 Bro, that is crazy.
02:07:51.000 That's crazy.
02:07:52.000 And if you watch the footage, have you seen some of the bombs go off?
02:07:55.000 Yeah, it's brutal.
02:07:56.000 It's so crazy what they can do now with these bombs.
02:07:59.000 They're so powerful.
02:08:00.000 Well, from the river to the sea, you're trying to say that Palestinians are going to be repatriated.
02:08:06.000 It's just, unfortunately, it's not going to happen.
02:08:10.000 And you can't pick and choose, right?
02:08:12.000 You can't go, hey, you know, we want the Palestinians to get their homes back and get rid of the occupier, but then what about the Kurds?
02:08:19.000 What about the Armenians?
02:08:20.000 What about the Greeks in Antolia?
02:08:21.000 I mean, the list goes on and on and on of people who've been pushed out of their homes and population exchanges.
02:08:28.000 And what about the Jews in Medina during the Muslim expansions?
02:08:31.000 What about the Jews in all the Muslim countries that were forced to flee when Israel founded?
02:08:37.000 You just go on and on and on.
02:08:38.000 It sucks.
02:08:39.000 What about Northern...
02:08:40.000 What about Cyprus?
02:08:41.000 Northern Cyprus?
02:08:41.000 That was illegally...
02:08:42.000 It's still...
02:08:43.000 It was illegally invaded by Turkey after Turkey was formed.
02:08:47.000 And then population exchanges happened there.
02:08:49.000 Like, people hate each other.
02:08:51.000 And there's a UN line of...
02:08:54.000 A peacekeeping zone between North and South Cyprus.
02:08:57.000 They hate each other.
02:08:58.000 The Greeks want them out.
02:08:59.000 But innocent people aren't dying anymore.
02:09:01.000 So it's like, you gotta find a real-world solution.
02:09:03.000 You can't just keep yelling about who's right and wrong.
02:09:07.000 And indicting Israel for things that other countries have done.
02:09:10.000 Are we going to give back taxes now?
02:09:11.000 I mean, the list can go on and on and on.
02:09:13.000 It's wrong, but it was wrong when the Romans kicked them out.
02:09:16.000 You're going, oh, you're going 2,000 years back.
02:09:18.000 Well, you're only going 400 years.
02:09:19.000 I mean, so what's the difference?
02:09:21.000 We're all going back.
02:09:22.000 I mean, the Jews were there.
02:09:23.000 Right.
02:09:24.000 I mean, yeah, the crazy religious zealots are fucking wanted because of Jerusalem.
02:09:29.000 And all these religions want...
02:09:31.000 Christians, Jerusalem's important, Islam is important.
02:09:34.000 You ever seen those radical Christians that go on that journey to Jerusalem?
02:09:39.000 Yeah, and I've seen the radical Jews who spit on them, too.
02:09:42.000 Wild stuff, right?
02:09:43.000 Wild shit!
02:09:43.000 Yeah.
02:09:44.000 But you've got to find a real-world solution.
02:09:46.000 Yeah, the Jews spit on them as they walk by.
02:09:47.000 Yeah, they just spit on the ground.
02:09:49.000 People are fucking nuts.
02:09:53.000 They're fucking out of their minds.
02:09:54.000 Do you think that my thought about mind reading software, universal language, fixes a lot of that stuff?
02:10:03.000 Yes, it does.
02:10:04.000 Fixes a lot of it.
02:10:04.000 It does.
02:10:05.000 Because I think what's happening to the Palestinians, unfortunately, is they're being used by Have you seen the border?
02:10:25.000 Terrific.
02:10:25.000 The border?
02:10:27.000 To Egypt?
02:10:28.000 Yeah, it's more sealed than the one in Israel.
02:10:30.000 Show the border to Egypt.
02:10:32.000 Yeah, they don't let them in there either.
02:10:33.000 But it's so over the top.
02:10:35.000 It's crazy.
02:10:36.000 We need that in Mexico.
02:10:37.000 That is a dope ass...
02:10:38.000 Get that going.
02:10:39.000 Get Trump to look at that.
02:10:40.000 Yeah.
02:10:40.000 Because that's a real wall.
02:10:41.000 Yeah.
02:10:42.000 Good luck getting through that fucking wall.
02:10:44.000 Yeah.
02:10:44.000 Can you see if you can find that, Jamie?
02:10:46.000 I just saw an article about it where they were talking about how strict...
02:10:52.000 I don't know.
02:10:55.000 The one I saw had barbed wire all over it.
02:11:02.000 Yeah.
02:11:03.000 They got that motherfucker locked up.
02:11:05.000 But how long is...
02:11:06.000 It's a good question.
02:11:08.000 It's a significant border.
02:11:10.000 I mean, it's not...
02:11:11.000 How big is ours?
02:11:12.000 We got a bullshit wall.
02:11:13.000 Ours is...
02:11:14.000 I mean, our wall or our border?
02:11:16.000 Our wall.
02:11:16.000 I don't know.
02:11:17.000 The wall is bullshit.
02:11:19.000 But...
02:11:20.000 If that many people can walk through your wall, I mean, imagine if those were the White Walkers.
02:11:24.000 Yeah, they would fucking...
02:11:26.000 They'd kill everybody in Game of Thrones.
02:11:27.000 The boundary between Egypt and Israel stretches 206 kilometers, 128 miles along the eastern edge of the Sinai Peninsula from the de facto trip point...
02:11:38.000 With Palestine, Gaza to the Gulf of, how do you say that?
02:11:42.000 Akaba?
02:11:42.000 Akaba?
02:11:44.000 A-Q-A-B-A in the Red Sea.
02:11:46.000 Egypt and Israel made peace like a long time ago, right?
02:11:49.000 Like the 70s.
02:11:51.000 Yeah.
02:11:51.000 I think Egypt was the first country to go like, all right, we're done fighting.
02:11:54.000 Well, they were very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia.
02:11:57.000 Yes.
02:11:57.000 It was very close.
02:11:58.000 That was happening, yeah.
02:11:59.000 I think they have peace with Jordan too, right?
02:12:02.000 So it's possible.
02:12:03.000 The United States borders 1,954 miles.
02:12:06.000 That's the one.
02:12:06.000 But how much wall do we have up?
02:12:08.000 20 miles.
02:12:11.000 We have such a bullshit wall.
02:12:12.000 The wall is such bullshit.
02:12:14.000 Dude, the left was so against the wall, and now I think a lot of the left is going like, yeah, just build that wall, just don't tell anybody I told you.
02:12:22.000 Well, especially the people that are living in New York, where Governor Abbott is bussing Ecuadorians in by the fucking truckload.
02:12:28.000 Oh, dude, you see them.
02:12:29.000 You see them now.
02:12:30.000 I've seen them.
02:12:31.000 I've seen migrants.
02:12:33.000 Yeah, I've seen them.
02:12:34.000 Nobody's into it.
02:12:35.000 Yeah, nobody's into it.
02:12:36.000 The most left people, nobody's into it.
02:12:39.000 Well, that's reality.
02:12:40.000 They're in four-star hotels.
02:12:42.000 They don't know what to do with it.
02:12:42.000 I know a guy who works on it.
02:12:44.000 I know he's a top-level guy who is in the military and also NYPD, and he's working on that.
02:12:53.000 And he goes, the scariest part is there's no plan.
02:12:57.000 There's no plan.
02:12:58.000 So they put them in hotels.
02:12:59.000 Some of them are in the lobbies.
02:13:00.000 They give them these food stipends.
02:13:01.000 They go across the street to Arby's.
02:13:02.000 They eat.
02:13:03.000 But there's no plan.
02:13:04.000 There's no...
02:13:05.000 They're just holding them.
02:13:06.000 There's no...
02:13:07.000 And they keep coming in.
02:13:07.000 They just keep coming in.
02:13:08.000 Some of them are going back now because they're going like, we're not fucking getting...
02:13:11.000 Also, it's cold as fuck.
02:13:12.000 It's cold as fuck.
02:13:13.000 You go to Chicago?
02:13:14.000 Yeah.
02:13:14.000 The winter.
02:13:15.000 Whoops.
02:13:17.000 And he goes, the taxpayers are paying for them.
02:13:20.000 And he goes, oh, and the taxpayers are also paying for me doing overtime.
02:13:25.000 Like, I was assigned to this in addition to my usual assignments.
02:13:29.000 I was assigned to this.
02:13:30.000 A lot of people who are doing this on an ad hoc basis.
02:13:34.000 It's an emergency situation.
02:13:35.000 And so the taxpayers are paying us all this overtime money.
02:13:38.000 So the taxpayers are getting looted.
02:13:41.000 And it's happened so fast.
02:13:43.000 Yeah.
02:13:43.000 And he's not a quacky guy.
02:13:44.000 Oh, that's not a quacky thing to say.
02:13:46.000 He's not a quack.
02:13:47.000 He's a very reasonable, smart guy.
02:13:51.000 What is the solution?
02:13:52.000 And this is how fast it's happened.
02:13:54.000 We did movie night the other night.
02:13:56.000 We watched Maid in Manhattan.
02:13:58.000 You ever watch that?
02:13:59.000 No.
02:13:59.000 Jennifer Lopez is a hot maid.
02:14:01.000 And Ralph Fiennes is a handsome...
02:14:05.000 A politician.
02:14:06.000 And she pretends that she's some socialite accidentally.
02:14:10.000 It's like some thing.
02:14:11.000 Anyway, it happens in the Roosevelt Hotel.
02:14:14.000 The Roosevelt Hotel is where they have these immigrants.
02:14:17.000 That's right.
02:14:17.000 So that hotel is not a hotel anymore.
02:14:19.000 It's a ritzy hotel in this film where it's a nice hotel.
02:14:23.000 It's a four-star hotel.
02:14:25.000 Beautiful hotel.
02:14:25.000 Well, now this hotel is flooded with immigrants.
02:14:29.000 Yeah.
02:14:30.000 Imagine you own that hotel.
02:14:31.000 It's crazy.
02:14:32.000 I mean, how does that work?
02:14:33.000 Does the government just give you a contract?
02:14:35.000 You say, I'll take it?
02:14:36.000 No, this mayor's just...
02:14:36.000 Do they give you money?
02:14:37.000 Not great, either.
02:14:39.000 Oh, he's terrible.
02:14:39.000 He's terrible.
02:14:40.000 But he's better than the last guy, which is even wilder.
02:14:42.000 Yeah, I mean, who knows?
02:14:43.000 Dr. Blasio was out of his fucking mind.
02:14:45.000 He was out of his mind, but this guy's turning...
02:14:46.000 I mean, talk about...
02:14:49.000 Plagiarism.
02:14:49.000 His book.
02:14:50.000 He had to remove his book.
02:14:52.000 So he wrote a book.
02:14:54.000 And, you know, I guess people are looking for this now.
02:14:57.000 So it's like half the book is plagiarized or made up.
02:15:01.000 None of it's true.
02:15:02.000 So he actually had to, like, pull his book.
02:15:04.000 Oh, my God.
02:15:05.000 Because it's, like, all lies.
02:15:08.000 It's just happened.
02:15:09.000 He was all in favor for the sanctuary in the beginning.
02:15:12.000 The rich history of the Pakistan-owned Roosevelt Hotel in New York.
02:15:17.000 Pakistan International Airlines has leased one of its most valuable assets, Roosevelt Hotel, in New York, the city's administration, for a period of three years in order to raise money for its struggling economy.
02:15:30.000 So they're for Pakistan's struggling economy?
02:15:33.000 So they're leasing out the Roosevelt to the city so that they can have money?
02:15:39.000 Yeah, because the city pays them.
02:15:40.000 Yeah, the city pays them.
02:15:41.000 But what about just running it as a hotel?
02:15:43.000 Is that less profitable?
02:15:45.000 Their problem started with COVID. Oh.
02:15:49.000 It was going to be going to them, so they had to find a way to make some money off of it.
02:15:52.000 Also, Airbnb has really hurt hotels.
02:15:55.000 Yeah.
02:15:55.000 In general.
02:15:56.000 I bet.
02:15:56.000 But not in Manhattan.
02:15:59.000 Manhattan.
02:16:00.000 If you're in Manhattan, you get to stay in Manhattan.
02:16:01.000 Yeah.
02:16:02.000 COVID problem.
02:16:03.000 If you're going to see Guns N' Roses at the Garden, you're not going to fucking stay in an Airbnb on Long Island.
02:16:07.000 Or kill Tony.
02:16:08.000 Or go see kill Tony.
02:16:09.000 A lot of my friends do not.
02:16:10.000 They prefer Airbnbs over hotels, and I find it crazy.
02:16:14.000 Like, almost up the majority.
02:16:16.000 I'd say 95%.
02:16:16.000 Tim Dillon until they banned them.
02:16:17.000 Yeah.
02:16:18.000 I mean, I'm in one right now, an Airbnb.
02:16:20.000 It's nice.
02:16:21.000 I'm in a nice one.
02:16:22.000 Some of them are great.
02:16:22.000 Yeah, they're great.
02:16:23.000 They really have hurt the hotel business big time.
02:16:26.000 Just like Uber hurt the taxi business.
02:16:27.000 Huge.
02:16:28.000 Yeah.
02:16:28.000 Huge.
02:16:29.000 I mean, it's also a very interesting way to make money off a property.
02:16:32.000 Yeah.
02:16:32.000 And it's significantly more.
02:16:34.000 And you could just rent it out to different people on weekends.
02:16:37.000 And if you have a really nice place, you can make a ton of loot.
02:16:40.000 You can cover your nut.
02:16:41.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:16:42.000 You know, there's people that make money off Airbnb houses.
02:16:45.000 It's a side business.
02:16:46.000 That's right.
02:16:46.000 It's the only thing preventing a BlackRock takeover of real estate.
02:16:49.000 And then there's fucking weirdos to set up cameras to watch your shit.
02:16:53.000 I'm actually was thinking that.
02:16:55.000 When I was in the Airbnb, I was looking for cameras.
02:16:57.000 I was like, what are these fucking cameras?
02:16:59.000 I know a guy who could sweep it for you.
02:17:01.000 Well, I'm only there one more night.
02:17:03.000 One more night is enough.
02:17:05.000 You'd be whacking off with your socks off.
02:17:06.000 I haven't jerked off in five days just because I'm worried about it.
02:17:08.000 Crazy.
02:17:11.000 I did think about that, though.
02:17:12.000 Yeah, you got to do it in the shower.
02:17:14.000 Yeah.
02:17:14.000 If you got a camera in the shower, they're a real piece of shit.
02:17:16.000 Yeah.
02:17:17.000 But that's where you'd want to put it.
02:17:19.000 Yeah, you'd want to put it in the bathroom or in the bedroom, like overlooking the bed.
02:17:23.000 That's right.
02:17:23.000 Yeah.
02:17:24.000 Yeah, there's an odd sprinkler above me that I'm like, what is that?
02:17:27.000 It was one of the sons of one of the owners of Bucky's, which is the craziest gas station ever.
02:17:33.000 I know Bucky's, yeah.
02:17:34.000 One of the sons got busted with a camera in the women's room.
02:17:37.000 Oh, no.
02:17:38.000 Was it the women's changing room?
02:17:39.000 What was it?
02:17:41.000 Do you have a changing room at Bucky's?
02:17:43.000 With your employees, maybe?
02:17:44.000 Dude, what don't they have at Bucky's?
02:17:46.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:17:47.000 You can buy lawn furniture, a brisket sandwich.
02:17:49.000 You can buy everything.
02:17:50.000 Anything.
02:17:51.000 What happened?
02:17:52.000 28 counts of recording.
02:17:58.000 Crazy.
02:17:59.000 Basically recording following disturbance at multiple residences associated with them.
02:18:05.000 What is he following?
02:18:06.000 What is he filming?
02:18:07.000 Camera alleged containing memory card loaded with dozens of videos capturing individuals in various states of undress in bedrooms and bathrooms.
02:18:15.000 It wasn't at Buc-ee's.
02:18:16.000 That's just his link.
02:18:17.000 Oh, so he did it somewhere else?
02:18:19.000 At his properties he has all over the city.
02:18:22.000 Oh!
02:18:23.000 Dallas Apartment, Telluride Colorado, Condo in Austin.
02:18:26.000 So, Airbnbs then?
02:18:27.000 Yeah.
02:18:28.000 So he was doing that.
02:18:29.000 That's it.
02:18:30.000 There's other companies other than Airbnb that have that same service?
02:18:33.000 So brutal.
02:18:34.000 Hilarious.
02:18:35.000 Creep.
02:18:36.000 It's creepy.
02:18:37.000 And the cameras are so small, man.
02:18:38.000 Son of a rich man.
02:18:40.000 Yeah, how do you make someone grow up normal when they grow up rich and privileged?
02:18:44.000 It's tough.
02:18:44.000 Good luck.
02:18:46.000 The fate is usually DJ or drug addict for rich, famous kids.
02:18:50.000 Uh-huh.
02:18:51.000 It's scary.
02:18:52.000 Yeah.
02:18:53.000 Well, just being a regular person is hard.
02:18:55.000 Yeah.
02:18:56.000 Being a person when, you know, you grow up and your dad has a private jet and a yacht and owns an island.
02:19:01.000 It's tough.
02:19:02.000 And hangs out with Clinton.
02:19:03.000 Yeah.
02:19:04.000 You don't want to work for anything.
02:19:05.000 You don't know what the value of anything is.
02:19:07.000 Everybody's been given to you for free.
02:19:08.000 Yeah.
02:19:08.000 You don't know how to work hard.
02:19:09.000 Yeah.
02:19:10.000 I think athletics is a good way to teach kids how to do things.
02:19:13.000 Do difficult things and you learn from them.
02:19:16.000 Art.
02:19:17.000 Anything where you have to actually work at something.
02:19:19.000 You develop character from working at something.
02:19:21.000 Yeah.
02:19:22.000 You teach your kids that, right?
02:19:23.000 Yeah.
02:19:24.000 You're so good with time and balance.
02:19:28.000 Because you're an involved dad.
02:19:30.000 Yeah.
02:19:31.000 How do you do it?
02:19:33.000 Do you plan it that way?
02:19:35.000 You have to work.
02:19:36.000 You have to plan it.
02:19:37.000 But I also only do stand-up, for the most part, three nights a week.
02:19:41.000 So four nights a week, I'm always home.
02:19:44.000 Unless I have to do road stuff.
02:19:46.000 And sometimes I take them with me.
02:19:48.000 And we go on vacations together.
02:19:49.000 We spend time together specifically.
02:19:51.000 We have family days, specifically.
02:19:54.000 It's hard.
02:19:55.000 And it's also, they want space too.
02:19:57.000 They're in school all day.
02:19:58.000 When they come home, they want to decompress.
02:20:00.000 And you've got to know how to not be imposing, but also talk to them about stuff.
02:20:06.000 Organize stuff to do.
02:20:07.000 Make it fun.
02:20:08.000 We have a lot of fun together.
02:20:09.000 Being a dad is the...
02:20:11.000 It's just overwhelming.
02:20:14.000 It's overwhelming how great it is.
02:20:16.000 It is great.
02:20:17.000 It made me be like, do I want to still do comedy?
02:20:19.000 I just want to be home with my kids.
02:20:21.000 And so the road got a little like...
02:20:23.000 I had this real crisis where I was like, I want to be home.
02:20:27.000 I don't want to miss time with my kids because that's what my parents did to me.
02:20:29.000 And I'm like...
02:20:30.000 It's hard.
02:20:31.000 The balance is hard.
02:20:32.000 It's hard.
02:20:32.000 It's hard.
02:20:33.000 And I remember I even asked you privately and you were like, no, that is hard.
02:20:35.000 And you didn't give me a solution.
02:20:36.000 I was like, fuck, I was hoping for an easy answer.
02:20:38.000 And you were just like, no, it is hard.
02:20:40.000 I was like, fuck!
02:20:41.000 A friend of mine the other day was telling me that his son had some athletic event and he got an offer to do a gig in Calgary.
02:20:48.000 I'm like, is it important to him?
02:20:50.000 He goes, yeah, you could work anywhere.
02:20:52.000 You don't have to do that weekend.
02:20:53.000 I'd give it up in a second.
02:20:54.000 I'll give the money.
02:20:55.000 I don't give a fuck about the money.
02:20:56.000 The thing is, is if you're barely getting by, if you're kind of like scratching and scraping and you've got to like pick and choose, like, is this advancing my career?
02:21:04.000 Is this fucking me up?
02:21:05.000 Is me not chasing my career going to be a detriment to my family because now we're going to have a financial crisis?
02:21:11.000 Yeah.
02:21:11.000 So there's that.
02:21:12.000 Just like you were talking about when people start making money and becoming famous, they're terrified it's all going to go away.
02:21:18.000 There's also when you're barely getting by you realize or you're getting by but just like you're above water but you know you realize one catastrophic thing And you're under.
02:21:31.000 And you're fucked.
02:21:32.000 And then the house gets repossessed.
02:21:33.000 And then you're staying with your mom.
02:21:35.000 Your kids are together in one room.
02:21:38.000 It's a real fear.
02:21:39.000 If you got a mom.
02:21:40.000 If you got a mom.
02:21:41.000 Right.
02:21:42.000 You know, what if you're in a shelter?
02:21:43.000 What if, you know, what the fuck, man?
02:21:45.000 So it's like you have this intense desire to be a provider, and you know that you have to put in the work.
02:21:51.000 You have to be successful.
02:21:53.000 Like, it may be way more successful.
02:21:56.000 Like being responsible for little people and a wife and just the family thing, like being responsible for stuff.
02:22:03.000 Yeah.
02:22:03.000 And then now I'm responsible for like employees.
02:22:06.000 You know, I can't just quit.
02:22:07.000 Yeah.
02:22:08.000 I just quit.
02:22:09.000 Right.
02:22:09.000 You know, I have this whole club now, the podcast.
02:22:13.000 What the fuck would Jamie do if I wasn't here?
02:22:16.000 He'd be so bored.
02:22:17.000 He'd be so bored.
02:22:18.000 He'd get bored.
02:22:19.000 He'd miss it.
02:22:20.000 Of course you would.
02:22:21.000 You'd be Googling in the air out of nowhere with one hand.
02:22:24.000 It's a real thing.
02:22:25.000 It's a real transition when you have kids and it's a real pressure.
02:22:30.000 Life is finite.
02:22:33.000 You have a finite time.
02:22:35.000 You have a finite amount of time that's available to you living as an organism on Earth.
02:22:40.000 That's a fact.
02:22:41.000 And I am already more than halfway through that.
02:22:44.000 I'm halfway towards the end.
02:22:46.000 And you have to maximize your time To the benefit of both yourself and everybody else around you.
02:22:53.000 That's what you gotta do.
02:22:54.000 You gotta be as good a friend as you could be.
02:22:56.000 You gotta be as good a husband, and as good of a father, and as good of an employer, as good of an employee, as good of a neighbor.
02:23:07.000 You gotta be the best you can be at all these different things.
02:23:09.000 Just do your best to have the most positive impact on the people around you.
02:23:13.000 You're gonna fuck up.
02:23:14.000 Everybody fucks up.
02:23:15.000 We're humans.
02:23:16.000 Correct that as much as you can.
02:23:17.000 Express yourself as best as you can.
02:23:19.000 Be as nice as you can.
02:23:21.000 Try to facilitate and try to encourage fun and happiness and love.
02:23:27.000 And that's possible.
02:23:28.000 It's possible in the community of people that you find yourself in.
02:23:31.000 And if you can't, you need to find a better community.
02:23:34.000 Or you've got to be a better person.
02:23:35.000 You've got to be a better person.
02:23:36.000 And that's all, you have to be a better person to attract a better community.
02:23:40.000 Whenever I see someone single and they're like, I can't find a person.
02:23:43.000 What do you have to offer?
02:23:45.000 Who are you?
02:23:46.000 Are you a person that someone would gravitate towards?
02:23:49.000 Are you particularly kind?
02:23:51.000 Are you particularly friendly and generous?
02:23:53.000 What is it about you that you think you should have someone that makes your life better?
02:23:58.000 Because you probably ruined their life.
02:24:00.000 You're fucking dour.
02:24:01.000 You complain all the time.
02:24:03.000 You're so lazy.
02:24:05.000 It's hard to say that to somebody.
02:24:06.000 Get up, bitch!
02:24:08.000 Let's go!
02:24:09.000 Look at you, dude.
02:24:10.000 The reason why you're struggling is because of you!
02:24:12.000 And also, you're stuck because you're struggling.
02:24:15.000 You're probably tired all the time because you're depressed.
02:24:17.000 So it's very difficult to gather up the energy to make change.
02:24:20.000 To make a radical change in your life.
02:24:22.000 To say, today I'm going to get up at 6 a.m.
02:24:23.000 and I'm going to go to that fucking yoga class.
02:24:25.000 And I'm always saying, I'm going to get to that 6.30 yoga and then the alarm goes off.
02:24:28.000 You're like, fuck that.
02:24:29.000 I don't really have to get up until 8.00.
02:24:31.000 I'm just going back to sleep.
02:24:32.000 Or just go to that yoga class.
02:24:33.000 And then 8 o'clock rolls around and you're leaving.
02:24:35.000 You're leaving the yoga studio.
02:24:37.000 You got your rolled up mat.
02:24:38.000 You're with those other people that all fucking did it.
02:24:40.000 Everybody did it.
02:24:41.000 We fucking did it.
02:24:42.000 We got up early.
02:24:43.000 We did the 90 minute class.
02:24:44.000 And now I'm going to go to work.
02:24:46.000 And now I got some momentum.
02:24:47.000 But it's hard to just make that first step.
02:24:50.000 And that's one tiny little step in this gigantic journey of self-improvement.
02:24:56.000 And if you don't take those steps at all, if you're that fucking dude that just gets at home and just medicated, watching Netflix, Uber Eats, wake up, do it all over again, you're gonna feel like shit.
02:25:07.000 Well, I think it's hard for people to take the first step, I think, because a big part of depression is feeling like it's going to last forever.
02:25:14.000 It's kind of the delusion that that feeling pitches you.
02:25:17.000 It's a weird mindset where everything is poisoned.
02:25:23.000 Every thought you have is poisoned with this negativity, and you start to actually think back at your life and think that it was all that way when it wasn't.
02:25:31.000 It's hard to remember the good times.
02:25:33.000 Yeah, when you're in a dark place, I think the thing to remember is that Suicide comes in your brain as like an escape hatch.
02:25:43.000 It's like your fight or flight thing going like this is an escape.
02:25:46.000 It's trying to help.
02:25:47.000 It's like when your immune system is overactive.
02:25:51.000 It's like your fight or flight is overactive.
02:25:53.000 So you have to remember that and just getting help.
02:25:57.000 People sometimes just don't get help because of shame or Whatever, but it always ends.
02:26:03.000 The bad always ends if you put the work in and remember that it doesn't last forever and that your thoughts are not, it's a delusion you're in right now.
02:26:13.000 It's not real.
02:26:14.000 Like it's, your brain is playing a trick on you.
02:26:18.000 It's not a reflection of reality.
02:26:21.000 It's a reflection of the way you feel, and the way you feel is fucked up right now, and that's changeable.
02:26:27.000 But it's hard to realize that when you're in it, and that's why people struggle with it, and they make unfortunate decisions, and some people take their lives and stuff like that.
02:26:36.000 Because they mistake it for something that's unchangeable, that's ever-present, because that's the way it feels.
02:26:43.000 But feelings are not facts, ask Ben Shapiro.
02:26:46.000 Yeah.
02:26:47.000 He seems to be getting his feelings a lot.
02:26:49.000 Yeah.
02:26:50.000 Well, it depends on if Israel comes up his feelings.
02:26:53.000 He's getting a lot of feelings.
02:26:54.000 Oh boy, he's all in.
02:26:57.000 He's all in on feelings.
02:27:00.000 When it comes to that.
02:27:02.000 What a crazy world we're living in, Giannis Papas.
02:27:04.000 It's gotten crazy, man.
02:27:06.000 It's gotten crazy.
02:27:07.000 You got a couple conflicts that you hope don't escalate and don't spill over.
02:27:11.000 At least we still got shit talking.
02:27:13.000 At least we still got a little stand-up comedy and some cigars.
02:27:19.000 Comedy helps people.
02:27:21.000 Helps me.
02:27:22.000 Yeah.
02:27:23.000 Just hanging out with Tim Dillon for three hours.
02:27:26.000 Even though he has a doom scenario that he's painting, it's hilarious.
02:27:30.000 Oh, he's so funny with it.
02:27:31.000 He's so good at ranting.
02:27:32.000 I love to just listen to him and let him go.
02:27:34.000 Oh, yeah.
02:27:35.000 He just goes.
02:27:35.000 We have great times.
02:27:37.000 He's the absolute best.
02:27:39.000 Ranter about like current issues like with With no audience sunglasses on out of his fucking mind making great points and also being hilarious He is the best and he's original.
02:27:53.000 He's absolutely original.
02:27:54.000 He's been that way since the moment I met him I met him when he First started doing comedy.
02:27:58.000 One of the first shows he did was My Room.
02:28:00.000 And he's been that way.
02:28:02.000 That's who he is offstage.
02:28:03.000 That's who he is on.
02:28:04.000 All his material comes from inside.
02:28:06.000 A lot of people get their material.
02:28:10.000 He looks like Cool Moe D. Skull and Bones sucks now.
02:28:13.000 Give me some of this.
02:28:14.000 They're doing like diversity, equity, and inclusion in the Illuminati.
02:28:20.000 It's Skull and Bones.
02:28:22.000 Which used to be just let's get a bunch of people that show that they can carry on the tradition of being a sociopath.
02:28:33.000 That's what Skull and Bones is about.
02:28:35.000 It's like finding rich people that have a skill set that makes them look like maybe they can be sociopaths.
02:28:45.000 And it's at Yale University.
02:28:47.000 The CIA started.
02:28:49.000 It was taken right out of skull and bones.
02:28:51.000 Okay?
02:28:53.000 So many bonesmen have risen to positions of prominence and power.
02:28:59.000 You know, presidents, CEOs.
02:29:01.000 We get it.
02:29:03.000 A lot of white guys.
02:29:04.000 A lot of white guys.
02:29:05.000 They would jerk off in the coffins.
02:29:08.000 It was very loud.
02:29:10.000 Nazi, I think George W. Bush stole Geronimo's skull, and it was in the tomb, and there's all this secret s*** in the tomb, and...
02:29:19.000 He bleeped it?
02:29:20.000 No.
02:29:21.000 Yeah, he did because it's a short, so...
02:29:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
02:29:24.000 So if you bleep it, it cuts through the algorithm?
02:29:27.000 Yes.
02:29:27.000 Is that what it is?
02:29:27.000 Oh, my God.
02:29:29.000 Cursing in the first, like, 10 or 15 minutes or something.
02:29:31.000 Oh.
02:29:32.000 They're fucking you.
02:29:33.000 They're getting you to self-censor.
02:29:34.000 Even Tim Dillon has to beep things.
02:29:37.000 He's a guy, he sits, he thinks, the material comes from his perspective.
02:29:40.000 It's inside.
02:29:41.000 A lot of guys search around, they look outside, and they go, I like that idea.
02:29:45.000 And then they go, let me change it a little bit this way.
02:29:47.000 He's actually got opinions.
02:29:48.000 He's got opinions, he's got perspective.
02:29:50.000 And he can come up with material on his own.
02:29:52.000 A lot of guys who end up taking stuff, they struggle.
02:29:55.000 They're very good performers, but they struggle with coming up with material on their own.
02:29:59.000 Well, it's because the very mindset that allows you to be creative is the opposite of the mindset that would make you plagiarize.
02:30:05.000 That's right.
02:30:06.000 Yeah.
02:30:06.000 And some guys are really good at marketing, and that's a big thing now.
02:30:09.000 Yeah.
02:30:10.000 And, you know, I've known a lot of people in advertising, mostly advertisers, they look at creative people, get the ideas, and then make a commercial about it.
02:30:18.000 And a lot of it's borrowed from, you know...
02:30:20.000 Yeah.
02:30:20.000 Actual artists.
02:30:21.000 So it's the same kind of mindset.
02:30:23.000 Yeah.
02:30:23.000 And it works.
02:30:24.000 And then when you take an idea, it's easier because you can see it works.
02:30:28.000 Right.
02:30:28.000 You already have confidence in it.
02:30:29.000 You already have confidence in it when it's going in.
02:30:31.000 Well, that's why the comics that get busted, their specials after that are always terrible.
02:30:35.000 Right.
02:30:35.000 Because the material falls off a cliff.
02:30:37.000 They've got to come up with their own stuff.
02:30:38.000 And they're fucked.
02:30:39.000 Yeah.
02:30:39.000 They're fucked.
02:30:40.000 So I always think, like, if you make it and you're a fraud, you don't really make it because it's not you.
02:30:45.000 Right.
02:30:45.000 And that must not feel great.
02:30:46.000 It sucks.
02:30:47.000 They live in hell.
02:30:49.000 Giannis Pappas, you're the fucking man.
02:30:50.000 I love you to death.
02:30:51.000 Thank you.
02:30:51.000 Thanks for having me.
02:30:52.000 Tell everybody where they can find you, social media, all that jazz.
02:30:56.000 Yeah, please follow me, Giannis Pappas, wherever you do.
02:30:59.000 Also, come see me on the road, please.
02:31:02.000 Do you mind if I plug a date or two?
02:31:03.000 Plug some motherfucking dates.
02:31:05.000 Yes, please.
02:31:06.000 JanusPappas.com?
02:31:07.000 Oh, I put it on airplane mode out of respect for you.
02:31:09.000 Oh, here we go.
02:31:09.000 Miami Improv, January 19th, 2021. Cobb's Comedy in San Francisco.
02:31:14.000 Good luck, fucker.
02:31:16.000 February 9th and 10th.
02:31:17.000 Have you been there lately?
02:31:18.000 I haven't, but I'm having the plane land in the club and then sleeping in the club.
02:31:23.000 There's a shitload of stuff.
02:31:24.000 Atlanta, San Diego, Stanford, Connecticut, Vic Theater in Chicago, Denver Improv.
02:31:30.000 Toronto.
02:31:31.000 I'm going to shoot my special.
02:31:32.000 I'm shooting my special at the Royal Theater in Toronto, March 23rd, 24th.
02:31:35.000 Oh, shit.
02:31:36.000 Yeah, Cleveland and then the rest.
02:31:37.000 That's good.
02:31:38.000 But San Francisco, come see me.
02:31:40.000 Yeah, please.
02:31:41.000 Rational people.
02:31:42.000 And my podcast, The Honest Pappas Hour.
02:31:44.000 Yes, sir.
02:31:44.000 Thank you, brother.
02:31:45.000 Thank you.
02:31:46.000 Bye, everybody.