The Joe Rogan Experience - February 07, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2099 - Aaron Rodgers


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 23 minutes

Words per Minute

180.91489

Word Count

25,904

Sentence Count

2,471

Misogynist Sentences

29


Summary

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, we sit down with former NFL player Max Scherzer to talk about his injury and recovery from a head injury sustained in the NFL. Max talks about how he's been dealing with the injury and how it's affected his life, and how he s dealing with it. We also talk about the dangers of micro-concussions and how to deal with them in the professional game. We also discuss the benefits of hyperbaric chambers and how they can be used to prevent concussions in athletes, and what they can do to prevent them in general. We finish up the episode by talking about the importance of sleep and how important it is to take care of your body in order to be able to perform at your best on the field and in your off-field life. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you re listening to podcasts. I'll be picking one person at random who leave a review and entering a contest to win a FREE place on the next Shreddin8 contest! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! Cheers, Joe & Rory! -Jon & Rory Check it out! -Jon and Rory - The Joes Experience Subscribe to Jon and Rory's YouTube Channel: Learn more about your ad choices. Rate/subscribe to the podcast and become a supporter of the podcast by becoming a patron! Subscribe, review and subscribe to the podCast, and help spread the word out there about the podcast! Jon & Rory are looking out there! and the podcast is looking out to find out who's getting the most amazing people in the best of the best places to support the most authentic, the best and the most inspiring the best, the most awesome people in their day to give them the best coffee and the coolest places in the most uplifting place in the world, the coolest things they get the most of their best of their day and most authentic experience in the greatest day in the place that they are getting the best possible day to day most of the greatest of the most affordable and the best everywhere they care about it all that they deserve the most awesomeness that they care most of it! . Thank you, Rory and Rory are the most genuine and most genuine, and they care the most profound of everything they deserve to be heard by the most beautiful thing they deserve it.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
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00:00:12.000 And we're up.
00:00:13.000 Yeah, if you have to pee, that's the key to this.
00:00:15.000 You can't talk when you have to pee.
00:00:17.000 Because if you do, you're not going to...
00:00:19.000 Nothing's going to come out right.
00:00:21.000 Yeah.
00:00:21.000 You're just going to be concentrating on peeing.
00:00:24.000 It's such a good conversation.
00:00:25.000 It's like, I'm going to pee so bad if I stop.
00:00:28.000 Yeah, I've learned.
00:00:29.000 I've learned you just got to let it go.
00:00:31.000 Did Ari really pee in the fucking...
00:00:33.000 Oh, always.
00:00:33.000 Yeah, he pees in everything.
00:00:35.000 He pees in whiskey jugs.
00:00:38.000 He pees in kombucha bottles.
00:00:40.000 He's a psychopath.
00:00:41.000 It's like my buddy A.J. Hawk.
00:00:42.000 He'll be doing the podcast and he's just pissing in a Gatorade bottle.
00:00:46.000 I'm like, how many of those you got up in the fucking attic?
00:00:49.000 He's like...
00:00:50.000 Well, I stopped doing that.
00:00:51.000 I was like, yeah, right.
00:00:52.000 When Matt Serra was fighting in the UFC, he used to drink so much water that he would have to get up in the middle of the night to pee all the time, so he'd put like a bucket by the side of his bed.
00:01:02.000 And just leaned off?
00:01:03.000 Yeah, just leaned off and pissed in something.
00:01:05.000 I think maybe he had a jug, like a one-gallon empty jug.
00:01:09.000 I had a teammate who would piss himself in practice and games and then spray a bunch of water to make it like he didn't piss himself.
00:01:15.000 What?
00:01:15.000 What a psycho.
00:01:17.000 That's a guy committed to winning.
00:01:21.000 I was like, oh, hey, Max is doing it again.
00:01:22.000 Max is doing it.
00:01:23.000 I was like, fuck, what is he doing?
00:01:24.000 Did he let you guys know he was doing it?
00:01:26.000 At one point, somebody's like, what the fuck is that?
00:01:28.000 Did you piss yourself?
00:01:32.000 Yeah.
00:01:33.000 How long have you been doing that?
00:01:34.000 Since college.
00:01:35.000 Jesus Christ.
00:01:36.000 What the fuck is wrong with you?
00:01:37.000 He just throws water on it?
00:01:38.000 He just sprays it, like takes the water and puts it in his mouth and sprays it down.
00:01:43.000 We know, Max.
00:01:44.000 We know.
00:01:47.000 What the fuck is wrong with you?
00:01:48.000 Fucking athletes.
00:01:49.000 You have to be a fucking crazy person.
00:01:51.000 Yeah.
00:01:52.000 I mean, especially, I mean, your line of work.
00:01:55.000 You're playing, like, other than fighting, it's the most dangerous game.
00:02:01.000 Fighting is a little more dangerous.
00:02:02.000 Yeah, fighting is more dangerous.
00:02:04.000 But not necessarily, you know, like overall impacts.
00:02:10.000 It's more concussions though.
00:02:12.000 In fighting?
00:02:13.000 Yeah.
00:02:13.000 Yeah, I would imagine.
00:02:15.000 Just the sparring and training.
00:02:17.000 That's the thing that people don't really take into consideration how many times guys get hit in the head training.
00:02:23.000 Depending on what gym they're from and how the gym operates.
00:02:26.000 Some guys, they go really hard in the gym.
00:02:30.000 That's a lot of micro-concussions over and over.
00:02:33.000 And then if you got one, then you get another hit.
00:02:36.000 Do you ever spend any time in hyperbaric chambers?
00:02:39.000 Yeah.
00:02:39.000 Do you do?
00:02:40.000 I did a bunch.
00:02:40.000 I did a bunch for my rehab.
00:02:42.000 It was awesome.
00:02:43.000 It helps a lot.
00:02:44.000 I think so.
00:02:44.000 I mean, a lot of it's, I think, anecdotal, but I know there's research.
00:02:50.000 It wasn't like I felt like, oh my god, I feel fucking incredible.
00:02:53.000 It's like...
00:02:54.000 I think it's helping.
00:02:54.000 Everything's helping.
00:02:55.000 Yeah.
00:02:56.000 There was some research that was done in Israel about lengthening of telomeres, where they put people on this protocol.
00:03:04.000 I think it was like a 90-day protocol where they did 60 sessions in 90 days, and it showed that their telomere length increased, which was consistent to a change in age, a biological age of 20 years.
00:03:18.000 20?
00:03:19.000 Yeah.
00:03:20.000 I'm going to jump in that thing when I'm home.
00:03:23.000 I don't know whether that...
00:03:25.000 I mean, I've talked to Peter Atti about that.
00:03:26.000 He's like, that doesn't necessarily mean you're 20 years younger.
00:03:30.000 It's probably beneficial, but there's like...
00:03:33.000 But Peter's like very hard-nosed, like, by-the-book science.
00:03:38.000 He doesn't leave any room for fuckery.
00:03:40.000 He was late on the bandwagon for peptides.
00:03:43.000 He's like, I don't know.
00:03:45.000 But now he's in.
00:03:47.000 He's very willing to accept information, but he just wants to make sure that it's absolutely accurate before he talks.
00:03:53.000 I respect that.
00:03:54.000 Oh yeah, he's rock solid.
00:03:56.000 So you are how many months out since your injury?
00:04:02.000 Almost five.
00:04:03.000 Yeah, my wife was just here and we were talking about how we went to see your game.
00:04:06.000 We set it up.
00:04:07.000 We're going to go see Aaron play.
00:04:08.000 He's going to be playing the Cowboys in Dallas.
00:04:11.000 Let's go.
00:04:12.000 We got all pumped up.
00:04:14.000 Four plays later.
00:04:15.000 Yeah.
00:04:16.000 How is it now?
00:04:17.000 It feels good.
00:04:18.000 It feels good.
00:04:18.000 I can do everything except sprint at a top speed.
00:04:23.000 The cool thing is I really attacked the rehab the first few months and kind of wanted to go as hard as I could for two months to see where I was at and also see where the team was at because my goal was to come back.
00:04:35.000 Nobody has come back really quick from that injury.
00:04:40.000 Most of the time when it happens, especially during season, there's no need to push a rehab.
00:04:44.000 Because it happened the first week of the season, I said, you know, let's push this as hard as I can and see if I can come back in December at some point.
00:04:52.000 So I kind of in my mind had circled Christmas Eve, which would have been 14 weeks post-surgery.
00:04:58.000 And yeah, I worked really, really hard.
00:05:00.000 I had a great surgeon who did, you know, a newer process where they kind of attach, anchor the sutures through the tendon back into your heel.
00:05:10.000 So it allows you to get on your feet quicker.
00:05:12.000 I did a lot of, you know, other things to speed up the rehab.
00:05:17.000 I did hyperbaric chamber.
00:05:19.000 Worked with Brigham at Ways to Well, who I know you're very good friends with and saw him on the podcast here and he's amazing.
00:05:27.000 I did some stem cells, did full-time rehab up to eight hours a day with an incredible spot in LA and also at home doing extra stuff.
00:05:40.000 My diet was rock solid.
00:05:42.000 A lot of bone broth to increase the collagen levels, to increase healing.
00:05:48.000 And so I felt really, really good.
00:05:51.000 I made it back on the practice field at 11 weeks.
00:05:55.000 The way the NFL works with the IR, you can have a three-week window before they've got to make a decision.
00:06:00.000 So they designate you to return.
00:06:02.000 You have three weeks before you get activated.
00:06:04.000 So I was hoping we'd win those three games.
00:06:07.000 I could come back.
00:06:08.000 Now, I couldn't sprint and still can at top speed, but I felt like there's been times in my career where I played in a small circle and could have been able to be effective.
00:06:16.000 That didn't happen, and so they activated me to the roster.
00:06:21.000 I just got to practice, but I didn't get to play.
00:06:24.000 But I feel good.
00:06:26.000 I had a lot of things working against me, my age being the biggest one, but I learned a lot more about health, which I'm sure people will love to hear about.
00:06:35.000 Yeah.
00:06:37.000 I mean, if you follow like a ways to well protocol, you can pretty radically speed up recovery for injuries.
00:06:45.000 And what's interesting is that there's stuff that you can do that you didn't do.
00:06:51.000 Because it's not allowed, which is, you know, very admirable on your part, but I would have fucking done it.
00:06:56.000 I would have done everything.
00:06:58.000 Like, let's go.
00:06:59.000 I would have gone the full Conor McGregor route.
00:07:01.000 But when you do...
00:07:04.000 How do they determine whether or not you're fully here?
00:07:07.000 Do they do an MRI and check the tissue and...
00:07:10.000 Yeah, we were doing ultrasounds actually for a while just to see what type of blood flow we were getting to the area.
00:07:16.000 We didn't actually do another MRI. If I had been activated with the intent to play, I think just for safety for everybody, we probably would have done another MRI just to see the structural integrity of the tendon.
00:07:30.000 But really, it was about how I felt.
00:07:32.000 And I was able to do all the quarterback stuff, move in the pocket, throw, step into my foot.
00:07:41.000 I could actually jog slightly faster than a jog to move and throw.
00:07:47.000 All things I kind of showed in practice the last few weeks of the season.
00:07:49.000 What happens over that if you speed it up a little?
00:07:52.000 Do you feel pain?
00:07:53.000 I don't have the explosion.
00:07:55.000 I don't have the ability to kind of...
00:07:57.000 Get up on my toe.
00:07:59.000 The biggest hurdle was just single leg calf strength.
00:08:04.000 Like being able to, from a standing position, shift my weight onto the single leg and do a heel raise.
00:08:11.000 That's how you know you're ready to run, because you run on your...
00:08:14.000 The athletes play on their toes, you know, so I need to be able to do that.
00:08:18.000 Now, I could get around that by subtle movements in the pocket.
00:08:21.000 But there was multiple times throughout my career where I had lower leg injuries in 14 and 18, especially where I was able to play in a small circle.
00:08:27.000 In 14, I ripped my calf up pretty bad and was able to kind of play in the shotgun and the pistol for a stretch of time and be effective.
00:08:36.000 In 18, I banged my knee up on the second drive of the game, tore my MCL, had a fracture on the lateral side.
00:08:48.000 And was able to play for a while, mostly in the shotgun until that healed up.
00:08:53.000 So I knew I could do it.
00:08:54.000 I wanted to show I could play under center, which I did in practice, but we just were out of it, so I didn't come back.
00:09:01.000 Well, it seems like it's the smartest move at your age to make sure it's 100%.
00:09:06.000 I've seen a lot of athletes come back, particularly from ACL injuries with fighters.
00:09:11.000 They come back too soon and it pops again.
00:09:15.000 Yeah, I totally agree with that on many levels.
00:09:19.000 But then there's the competitor part where I see that window closing.
00:09:25.000 And there's not many guys who've played as long as I have.
00:09:30.000 There's a few.
00:09:30.000 Obviously, Tom did it for a long time.
00:09:32.000 But there's kind of an age where father time is winning.
00:09:37.000 And I know that I'm on the last couple holes of my career.
00:09:41.000 So I didn't want to miss an entire season.
00:09:44.000 Are you 36 now?
00:09:45.000 I'm 40. 40. Thank you, though.
00:09:47.000 You look 36. What is, like, the old...
00:09:51.000 Is Tom the oldest that people have played?
00:09:52.000 I think Tom was 45 his last year.
00:09:55.000 Oh, wow.
00:09:56.000 There were some kickers that played about as long.
00:09:59.000 Yeah, 45s.
00:10:00.000 45's crazy.
00:10:00.000 That's crazy.
00:10:01.000 That's crazy.
00:10:02.000 Because if you hear about a fighter that's 45, you're like...
00:10:05.000 You're a bad fighter in their late 30s.
00:10:06.000 It's kind of like...
00:10:07.000 Except in the juicy days.
00:10:10.000 The juicy days of the UFC, there were some guys that competed really well.
00:10:15.000 There's still some guys that are late 30s.
00:10:19.000 Yoel Romero is the best example of that.
00:10:22.000 But he's the freak of all freaks.
00:10:24.000 They need to study that guy in the lab.
00:10:26.000 I think you've said that before.
00:10:28.000 I've told the story so many times, people get annoyed if I bring it up.
00:10:31.000 I don't care if you bring it up.
00:10:32.000 The UFC brought him to a doctor and the doctor's like, where did you get this guy?
00:10:35.000 And they're like, he's awesome, right?
00:10:37.000 And they're like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
00:10:39.000 Like, I've never seen a human being that's built like him.
00:10:42.000 They said that the tendon in his eyes were three times larger than a normal person's.
00:10:46.000 His eye fracture, he had an orbital fracture, was already healing by the time they were bringing him into the doctor.
00:10:52.000 They're like, this guy is just a freak.
00:10:54.000 By the way, his neck is completely fused.
00:10:56.000 So if you see when he runs, his neck is completely stiff.
00:10:59.000 His neck is totally fused.
00:11:01.000 And that's some shit they did in Cuba.
00:11:03.000 Like when he broke his neck.
00:11:06.000 So he's got...
00:11:07.000 This is nice, Jamie.
00:11:09.000 This is new, huh?
00:11:10.000 This whole setup?
00:11:11.000 No, no.
00:11:11.000 It's always been like this.
00:11:14.000 But, I mean, he didn't even get into the UFC. I think he was like 36 or 37 when he fought his first fights in the UFC. And he's still fighting at a world-class level.
00:11:22.000 Didn't he rip his knee up and keep fighting?
00:11:26.000 I don't know.
00:11:27.000 I thought he had like a ligament damage and kept fighting.
00:11:30.000 Maybe that's somebody else.
00:11:31.000 I don't know.
00:11:32.000 He's probably one of those guys that if he did, he wouldn't tell you.
00:11:35.000 You know, that Cuban athletic program that he talked about, it was a fun podcast because I did it with him and Joey Diaz.
00:11:41.000 So he would talk in Spanish and Joey Diaz would translate it.
00:11:45.000 But occasionally he would talk in English.
00:11:47.000 But he was like, they turn you into a machine!
00:11:50.000 He was talking about the Cuban program.
00:11:52.000 Like, if you're competing for Cuba, if you're on the elite team, you eat three times a day.
00:11:57.000 If you're not on the elite team, you eat twice a day.
00:11:59.000 Wow.
00:12:00.000 Yeah.
00:12:00.000 Yeah.
00:12:02.000 You sleep in better places, you have better food, and so he's like, so the competition is just intense.
00:12:09.000 That one?
00:12:10.000 Broken leg and KO win over Luke Rockhold.
00:12:13.000 He broke his leg?
00:12:14.000 Jesus Christ.
00:12:15.000 Wow.
00:12:16.000 He broke his leg when he won?
00:12:18.000 Huh.
00:12:19.000 Broke his shin, is that what it said?
00:12:20.000 I don't know.
00:12:22.000 Yeah, he broke his shin after he checked the kick.
00:12:24.000 Suffering what he believes is a broken leg.
00:12:26.000 Huh.
00:12:27.000 Interesting.
00:12:29.000 There's some good fights coming up, though.
00:12:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:31.000 Yeah, there's some great fights coming up.
00:12:33.000 The Volkanovski-Ilya Topuria fight, that's in next week.
00:12:37.000 That's a big one.
00:12:38.000 That's a big one.
00:12:39.000 That guy, Ilya Topuria, is fucking terrifying.
00:12:42.000 That guy's an animal.
00:12:43.000 Yeah, but so is Volk.
00:12:44.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:45.000 No, he is.
00:12:45.000 But it's like, for Volkanovski, like, I really would have wished he hadn't taken that second fight with Islam on such short notice.
00:12:53.000 To fight a guy like that with no training on 10 days notice just seems crazy.
00:12:56.000 And then to get head kicked like that, it's just like...
00:13:00.000 Ooh, but then it's Robert Whitaker and Paulo Costa, Jeff Neal and Ian Machado-Gary.
00:13:05.000 That's a big fight, too.
00:13:06.000 Those are good fights.
00:13:07.000 Where is it?
00:13:08.000 That's in Anaheim.
00:13:09.000 Marab and Henry Cejudo.
00:13:11.000 Are you doing that fight?
00:13:11.000 Yes, sir.
00:13:12.000 I mean, it's one of the rare times I go back to that communist shithole commonly known in California.
00:13:18.000 That fucking place is so crazy.
00:13:20.000 You know, you can't get these.
00:13:21.000 I had a friend of mine, my friend Moshe was here the other day, and he's like, oh, you have flavored nicotine.
00:13:26.000 You can't get flavored nicotine.
00:13:29.000 Yep.
00:13:30.000 Imagine.
00:13:31.000 You can't get flavored nicotine.
00:13:33.000 I think it's because of the vaping, right?
00:13:35.000 They want to cut down the vaping.
00:13:36.000 What the fuck?
00:13:37.000 What does that mean?
00:13:38.000 I don't know.
00:13:39.000 What does that mean?
00:13:40.000 I'm a grown man.
00:13:41.000 You're telling me that I can go buy whiskey, but I can't get flavored nicotine?
00:13:47.000 Like, what are you doing?
00:13:48.000 Like, they just can't wait to put more controls on people in any way, shape, or form.
00:13:52.000 They're trying to outlaw internal combustion engines by 2035. No new sales.
00:13:57.000 Smart.
00:13:58.000 Guess what, you fucks?
00:13:59.000 Every time the power is, like, in the summertime, they tell people not to charge their cars because the grid's going to go down.
00:14:06.000 Like, what are you going to do?
00:14:06.000 You're going to do a radical upheaval of the grid in 11 years?
00:14:10.000 No, you're not.
00:14:10.000 I'm sure Newsom can get it done.
00:14:12.000 Yeah.
00:14:13.000 They're just talking.
00:14:14.000 It's like literally every goal is to just say the right things, check the right boxes so people think you're green.
00:14:21.000 You're green and you're all DEI'd out.
00:14:23.000 And then they don't care about the infrastructure of the country.
00:14:26.000 It's fucking crazy.
00:14:28.000 No, they don't care at all.
00:14:29.000 They definitely don't care at all.
00:14:31.000 It's control.
00:14:33.000 They just want control.
00:14:34.000 They want total control.
00:14:36.000 When you live in a place like this, you realize how much A, it's control, and B, it doesn't change anything.
00:14:43.000 You're not safer when they do it like that.
00:14:45.000 You're better off here.
00:14:47.000 Well, Texas has its own grid.
00:14:48.000 Yes, that's true, too.
00:14:50.000 And Texas provides oil to much of the country.
00:14:53.000 Like, Texas could be its own country.
00:14:55.000 And there's a lot of real psychos who want it to be.
00:14:59.000 You're one of them?
00:15:00.000 No, no.
00:15:02.000 No, I still believe in the United States.
00:15:05.000 I'm a patriot.
00:15:06.000 I still believe in America.
00:15:07.000 I just don't believe in politicians.
00:15:08.000 And I think they have to figure out a way to extract money from politics.
00:15:12.000 They have to do two things.
00:15:13.000 Two things would fix a lot.
00:15:14.000 They have to stop congresspeople from being able to fucking insider trade.
00:15:19.000 That shit is insane.
00:15:20.000 When you see the fact that these people are making $170,000.
00:15:23.000 Nancy's incredible.
00:15:23.000 She's great at it, man.
00:15:24.000 She's amazing at it.
00:15:25.000 She's a wizard at it.
00:15:26.000 But it's not just her.
00:15:27.000 If you look at the chart, that's the thing about it is they all kind of keep their mouths shut because if you look at the real numbers, it's pretty much divided between Republicans and Democrats.
00:15:35.000 It's both sides.
00:15:35.000 It's definitely both sides.
00:15:35.000 Yeah, it's both.
00:15:36.000 Both sides are doing it.
00:15:38.000 But that's crazy.
00:15:40.000 They put Martha Stewart in jail for way less.
00:15:44.000 Martha Stewart!
00:15:44.000 They put Martha Stewart!
00:15:46.000 America's mom!
00:15:47.000 They put her in jail for insider trading, and yet these congresspeople are completely exempt from it.
00:15:53.000 But it wasn't them, right?
00:15:54.000 It was their significant other.
00:15:55.000 I'm sure they weren't sharing any information.
00:15:57.000 Some of it's them.
00:15:58.000 Some of it is them.
00:15:59.000 Oh yeah, it's them.
00:16:00.000 They know what bills are going to be passed, they buy a shitload of stock, and they pass these bills, and then this whatever industry is goes up, and they make enormous profits.
00:16:11.000 There's people that are making $150,000, $170,000, $200,000 a year, and they're worth $90 million.
00:16:18.000 In any other business, you would be investigated.
00:16:20.000 And if you were a fucking plumber, and you were making $190,000 a year, and you were worth hundreds of millions of dollars, people would go, what the fuck are you doing, Ted?
00:16:29.000 You know, they would crawl up your ass with a microscope.
00:16:32.000 Where the fuck did you get this money?
00:16:33.000 How do you know all these things?
00:16:34.000 Like, where are you getting this data?
00:16:37.000 How are you able to do this?
00:16:38.000 Oh, you pass the laws?
00:16:40.000 You pass the laws that changes the value of these companies, and then you gamble on that?
00:16:47.000 That's what you're doing?
00:16:48.000 You're going to jail.
00:16:50.000 You're going to jail.
00:16:51.000 That should be illegal, because you're going to do things to profit That are above and that are ahead.
00:17:00.000 You're going to put that ahead of the better good of the United States.
00:17:03.000 You're going to.
00:17:04.000 They all do.
00:17:05.000 Yeah.
00:17:06.000 Of course.
00:17:06.000 So that's one.
00:17:07.000 What's the other one?
00:17:08.000 They got to take money out of politics.
00:17:09.000 They got to take the amount of donations that super PACs and these special interest groups are allowed to give to these politicians and then are completely beholden to them once they get into office.
00:17:21.000 They have to figure out a way to stop that.
00:17:22.000 I mean, it should have never been allowed in the first place.
00:17:26.000 Another thing would be get back on the gold standard.
00:17:29.000 That would be a great move too, but that's too late.
00:17:31.000 But JFK was trying to do that.
00:17:32.000 Yeah.
00:17:33.000 Silver standard.
00:17:34.000 Yeah.
00:17:34.000 Guess what they did to him?
00:17:37.000 Yeah.
00:17:38.000 Yeah.
00:17:40.000 You see Bobby Kennedy out there.
00:17:41.000 They won't even give him Secret Service protection, which is just fucking egregious.
00:17:46.000 It's so wild.
00:17:47.000 They won't give him...
00:17:48.000 He's the only presidential candidate ever that's been denied Secret Service protection.
00:17:53.000 Three times, I think, already.
00:17:54.000 Yeah.
00:17:56.000 It's just, they're so fucking corrupt.
00:17:59.000 And they're so in your face with it, and no one does anything about it.
00:18:02.000 You had Bobby on the podcast.
00:18:03.000 Yes, I did.
00:18:04.000 What'd you think of him?
00:18:05.000 I love him.
00:18:07.000 Forget about the vaccine stuff, which I think he's got very good points about all that stuff.
00:18:12.000 There's real data.
00:18:13.000 And if you read his book, if you read the real Anthony Fauci, you would be sick to your stomach if you know the absolute truth.
00:18:19.000 If it wasn't truth, wasn't truth, he'd be sued.
00:18:22.000 He's not getting sued for a fucking reason.
00:18:24.000 But just that alone.
00:18:26.000 But then if you forget about the vaccine stuff, just look at his environmental record, what he did when he was an environmental attorney.
00:18:32.000 When he was suing these companies, they cleaned up the Hudson River because of him.
00:18:37.000 He's an amazing guy.
00:18:39.000 I really love him.
00:18:40.000 And the things that he's been saying about what happened during the pandemic, you know, he had some talk that he did recently, some speech, some conversation he did recently that was public.
00:18:50.000 He was talking about we're being poisoned by food and this is why everybody got so sick from COVID. The disparity between people who got COVID and it was just a cold versus people who got COVID and they were deadly ill is 100% what they're eating and what that does to their body and how it compromises their immune system and how it causes comorbidities like diabetes,
00:19:12.000 type 2 diabetes and obesity and heart disease.
00:19:15.000 This is all a direct relationship to food.
00:19:19.000 But there's no money in healing people.
00:19:22.000 You know, the chronic disease, it's a huge moneymaker.
00:19:25.000 And it's not going to change.
00:19:27.000 I was watching something the other day with Tucker Carlson was interviewing somebody named Callie Means.
00:19:33.000 I don't know if you saw this, but he's talking about Ozempic.
00:19:36.000 Yeah.
00:19:37.000 Yes, I did see that.
00:19:38.000 Yeah, we were talking about it yesterday.
00:19:39.000 But one of the big points that he made that people, I think, forget is that why are these drug companies, Big Pharma, spending so much money on advertisements during the news is not to sell their products.
00:19:51.000 They don't have a problem with that.
00:19:52.000 It's to control the messaging.
00:19:54.000 Yes.
00:19:54.000 I mean, they're fucking controlling the message.
00:19:57.000 For sure.
00:19:57.000 So if somebody went after that and said, hey, you're not going to be allowed to advertise on TV anymore, because I think we're one of the only countries, maybe there's one other country.
00:20:06.000 New Zealand's the only other country.
00:20:07.000 Okay, so there's two countries.
00:20:08.000 It would be, you know, they would be attacked for anti-science or whatever it might be.
00:20:13.000 What RFK wants to do, you know, kind of the dismantling or the re...
00:20:27.000 You know, he would get absolutely slaughtered by the media.
00:20:32.000 Why?
00:20:35.000 But because who's paying them?
00:20:36.000 Yes.
00:20:37.000 It's those companies.
00:20:38.000 So they control the message.
00:20:39.000 So when you come out and talk about, you know, what you use to heal yourself during COVID, or when I come out and talk about, or Dr. Peter McCullough, or Robert Malone, or insert anybody who was just trying to bring Peter Corey, they get absolutely railroaded and censored and silenced and attacked and slandered.
00:20:57.000 I mean, it's not the news.
00:21:00.000 It's corporate controlled.
00:21:01.000 It's completely controlled.
00:21:02.000 And it's not good for us.
00:21:05.000 And the fact that people went along with it because they thought ideologically that that group of people aligned with their side and the other side was Donald Trump and the MAGA and the vaccine deniers and all the craziness that they attributed to that.
00:21:17.000 I mean, it's really kind of brilliant the way they've pushed this propaganda.
00:21:22.000 But at the end of the day, it's not beneficial to the greater good of society.
00:21:26.000 If the media was legitimate, they would be talking about one of the biggest crises that's happening in this country right now, which is a massive increase in all-cause mortality.
00:21:36.000 It's a massive increase, and they're completely sign-on on it.
00:21:40.000 In some age groups, it's a 40-plus percent increase in all-cause mortality—heart attacks, strokes, cancer.
00:21:48.000 Gee, what do you think happened that changed where all of a sudden there's this massive increase and it coincides with something else?
00:21:54.000 Don't you think maybe they would investigate that?
00:21:56.000 Don't you think that, like, you would have some sort of investigative reporter that dives deep into this and gets to the bottom of it?
00:22:02.000 No, they can't.
00:22:04.000 Because of what you said.
00:22:05.000 Because they're captured.
00:22:06.000 They're captured.
00:22:06.000 They're totally captured, 100%.
00:22:07.000 And, yeah, it's just on and on and on through this whole thing.
00:22:11.000 My thing is this, is, you know, all of us who've been attacked for our position To all those people, what do you think the fucking motivation is?
00:22:20.000 Yeah.
00:22:21.000 I mean, just look at my own situation.
00:22:24.000 I lost friends, allies in the media, millions of dollars in sponsorship because I talked about what worked for me and my own beliefs And my own health reasons why I didn't get vaccinated.
00:22:40.000 Oh, by the way, you were right.
00:22:41.000 Yeah.
00:22:41.000 You were right.
00:22:42.000 Look, you didn't need it.
00:22:43.000 Look how quickly you recovered.
00:22:44.000 You were fine.
00:22:45.000 And same with you.
00:22:46.000 Yeah.
00:22:47.000 And what did they do?
00:22:48.000 They changed the color of your face.
00:22:51.000 They vilified all early treatments, including the medicine that has one of the safest profiles out there.
00:22:58.000 We've talked about it.
00:22:59.000 The guy who invented it got a Nobel Prize.
00:23:02.000 They were using it all over the world, in Uttar Pradesh, Africa, and various places.
00:23:06.000 And that's what you do during a pandemic, right?
00:23:08.000 You find ways to repurpose drugs for early treatments.
00:23:11.000 But now they couldn't do that.
00:23:12.000 Because if there's an early treatment, then they can't get the UA. Drugs that have been proven to have antiviral properties.
00:23:17.000 Yeah.
00:23:18.000 But what's the motivation for Peter McCullough, who got vilified?
00:23:20.000 What's the motivation for Robert Malone?
00:23:22.000 Well, if you know Peter McCullough, Peter McCullough is like, that guy has standards and morals and ethics.
00:23:27.000 I mean, he is a rock solid guy.
00:23:29.000 And he actually treated patients, too.
00:23:31.000 Actually treated patients.
00:23:31.000 He's also the most published doctor in history.
00:23:35.000 History in his particular field of study.
00:23:39.000 What is the conspiracy on that about motivation?
00:23:43.000 What do you get out of sharing what you share?
00:23:46.000 Well, I didn't think anything was going to happen.
00:23:49.000 When it happened with me, I knew that people were upset at me because I was hesitant to take the vaccine, but that was because two people I knew got strokes.
00:23:56.000 I wasn't initially hesitant at all.
00:23:58.000 I was set up to take it.
00:23:59.000 I was set up to take it by the UFC. I was ready to do it.
00:24:03.000 I was like, okay, shoot me up.
00:24:04.000 I was going to have them do it to me.
00:24:05.000 I thought of it like a flu shot.
00:24:07.000 Like, if I was about to do the UFC and they said, oh, you have to take a flu shot before you go to the UFC, I'm like, alright, just stick me.
00:24:12.000 I didn't think it was going to be a big deal.
00:24:14.000 And then they said, well, in two weeks when you're back, just come early and you come to the clinic.
00:24:20.000 I said, okay, we'll do that.
00:24:21.000 And then within that two weeks, it got pulled.
00:24:23.000 Luckily, But it's not just those two guys.
00:24:26.000 I know a lot of people now with pretty severe vaccine injuries.
00:24:30.000 So do I. And so many people have reached out to me because of what happened to me.
00:24:34.000 Celebrities that wanted to be quiet about it.
00:24:37.000 People that are really hesitant about talking about it openly and publicly.
00:24:40.000 But they were really scared.
00:24:43.000 People that have real serious problems.
00:24:45.000 I have two friends that have pacemakers now.
00:24:47.000 Yeah, I remember we talked about that.
00:24:49.000 One of them in their 30s, right?
00:24:50.000 Yeah.
00:24:51.000 He's a dentist.
00:24:52.000 That's not fucking normal.
00:24:53.000 No, it's not normal.
00:24:54.000 It's not normal at all.
00:24:55.000 For your heart to stop for nine seconds at a time.
00:24:57.000 He's a thin, healthy, young guy, and all of a sudden his heart starts fucking up.
00:25:01.000 Why does nobody care about...
00:25:02.000 Well, everyone's scared.
00:25:04.000 There's people that are scared because they took it and they're worried that they have a ticking time bomb and they want any information, any information that refutes that and that confirms that they made the right choice.
00:25:15.000 Also, they did make the right choice morally and ethically when they did it.
00:25:19.000 They did it because they thought they were doing the right thing.
00:25:22.000 Everybody has to do it.
00:25:23.000 We're going to protect everyone.
00:25:24.000 If we all do this, this is going to get us out of the pandemic.
00:25:27.000 Because the news media Was being used by these pharmaceutical drug companies to push a very specific narrative.
00:25:34.000 And they didn't do any critical thinking.
00:25:36.000 They didn't step outside the box.
00:25:37.000 They didn't talk to any scientists that differed.
00:25:40.000 They all just stuck with whatever Fauci said, whatever the NIH said.
00:25:45.000 And they also demonized people who were saying things that have been proven to be absolutely correct, like the fucking lab leak theory.
00:25:52.000 If you brought up the lab leak theory, you used to get banned from YouTube.
00:25:55.000 Now it's widely accepted by everyone.
00:25:59.000 So is all the conspiracies that got people censored and kicked off.
00:26:04.000 So many of them have been proven to be true.
00:26:07.000 And I agree with you.
00:26:08.000 So many people thought they were doing the right thing.
00:26:09.000 They thought, I'm doing my part.
00:26:11.000 This is what we're supposed to do.
00:26:12.000 Do we stop the spread?
00:26:14.000 I'm full on board.
00:26:16.000 We're all together.
00:26:17.000 But let's look at what happened.
00:26:18.000 And people are always like, why do you keep fucking bringing up the vaccine?
00:26:21.000 For multiple reasons.
00:26:22.000 But listen, this is a playbook that now we have.
00:26:24.000 For the next time they fucking try and do this shit.
00:26:27.000 Don't forget about this.
00:26:28.000 They're talking about disease X now.
00:26:30.000 When was the last time they were talking about a disease that doesn't exist, that's not affecting anybody, that literally there's no one sick, there's no one dying, and they're talking about how it's coming?
00:26:41.000 Well, just watch what Bill Gates does, because the last time he invested $50 million in a company, he made a pretty good score.
00:26:47.000 And then he pulled all his money out.
00:26:49.000 And then he started disparaging the effectiveness of the vaccine.
00:26:51.000 After he pulled his money out, though.
00:26:53.000 After he pulled his money out.
00:26:53.000 And he also started saying that the virus wasn't as bad as we thought it was.
00:26:57.000 Oh, gee.
00:26:58.000 How convenient.
00:26:59.000 Yeah, what happened to the flu?
00:27:01.000 Yeah.
00:27:02.000 Flew went away.
00:27:03.000 Zero cases.
00:27:06.000 It's crazy.
00:27:07.000 It is pretty crazy.
00:27:08.000 But we cannot forget about what happened.
00:27:11.000 No.
00:27:13.000 This is what they're going to do next time.
00:27:16.000 Well, the big loser in this, besides the people that lost their jobs and their businesses closed and people lost their lives, the big loser has been mainstream media because the trusted mainstream media is at an all-time low.
00:27:29.000 I mean, they are laying off journalists left and right.
00:27:32.000 No one wants to read the newspaper anymore.
00:27:34.000 No one believes them.
00:27:36.000 CNN lost all their big hosts.
00:27:38.000 It's like...
00:27:40.000 They lost.
00:27:41.000 And they lost their streaming service.
00:27:43.000 Yeah.
00:27:43.000 Well, that was hilarious.
00:27:45.000 They dumped money into something to get people to pay for something that no one wants for free.
00:27:49.000 Yeah.
00:27:50.000 And it was like, Anderson Cooper's Book Club.
00:27:52.000 Like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:27:54.000 If I was a shareholder in CNN- How much?
00:27:57.000 Only $10 a month?
00:27:58.000 Okay.
00:27:59.000 I was like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
00:28:01.000 Do you really think anybody's going to pay for CNN? What are you offering?
00:28:05.000 Nobody watches now that Trump's now.
00:28:07.000 The numbers they get are so small.
00:28:09.000 That's why it's platforms like this that are actually bringing the information that people want to watch.
00:28:14.000 Instead of watching the fucking news like people used to trust in you and it's 6 o'clock nightly news and I'm going to get this story.
00:28:20.000 There's no more Walter Cronkite's out there.
00:28:22.000 It's long-form conversations that are actually informing people on what's going on.
00:28:27.000 It's that and it's people steering you to legitimate journalists that are independent.
00:28:31.000 The Michael Schellenbergers, the Glenn Greenwalls, the people that are experts in their field, the Brett Weinsteins, the people that actually know what they're talking about.
00:28:39.000 But it's just a weird landscape that we're in now that didn't exist before where we don't – we're absolutely sure that you can't trust the mainstream media anymore.
00:28:48.000 We're absolutely sure of that.
00:28:49.000 And even boomers know that now.
00:28:51.000 Even the people that have been trusting the mainstream media their whole life are like, well, there are definitely – something's wrong.
00:28:56.000 They don't know what it is, but something's wrong.
00:28:59.000 Those are amazing.
00:29:00.000 Those compilations.
00:29:02.000 Anderson Cooper, brought to you by Pfizer.
00:29:04.000 I was watching the playoff game the other day, and it said, NFL football, brought to you by Pfizer.
00:29:11.000 I was like, yeah, I knew that.
00:29:13.000 Yikes.
00:29:14.000 Yeah.
00:29:15.000 Well, they made a lot of money, and they'd like to do that again.
00:29:19.000 And that's what you have to be really careful about.
00:29:20.000 But what they're doing that again now with is Ozempic.
00:29:23.000 And they're making a shitload of money off of this drug that essentially paralyzes your fucking stomach.
00:29:31.000 It slows your body's ability to digest.
00:29:34.000 It causes a host of gastrointestinal issues for some people.
00:29:37.000 All sorts of weird side effects.
00:29:39.000 People have died taking it.
00:29:40.000 And they're pushing it, and they're pushing it even on kids.
00:29:43.000 It's like a primary weight loss strategy for obesity.
00:29:47.000 Instead of dietary change, instead of realizing, like, you've got to get better the same way you got sick.
00:29:52.000 How'd you get sick?
00:29:53.000 You took a bunch of bad food.
00:29:54.000 Here's how you get better.
00:29:55.000 Eat only good food.
00:29:57.000 See how you got fat?
00:29:58.000 You got too many calories?
00:30:00.000 This is how you got to lose weight.
00:30:02.000 So you have to have less calories in than you're burning.
00:30:05.000 And you got to exercise.
00:30:06.000 How about start drinking water?
00:30:08.000 Stop drinking soda.
00:30:10.000 We had this chart up yesterday of how many people on food stamps buy soda.
00:30:15.000 Like how much of food stamps is spent on soda.
00:30:17.000 It's fucking crazy.
00:30:18.000 It's like poor people just drinking poison.
00:30:21.000 Drinking sugary poison.
00:30:23.000 But see, that's part of the problem, too.
00:30:25.000 You look at not just what they pushed or what they closed down during the lockdowns.
00:30:30.000 You had what was open.
00:30:32.000 You had fast food restaurants open.
00:30:33.000 You had fucking processed food places open.
00:30:35.000 But the food that's actually the best for you oftentimes is the most expensive.
00:30:41.000 Yeah.
00:30:41.000 So you have to find a way to, whether it's doing all-out tariffs on certain, extra taxes on certain types of products, or I don't know how you're going to change the farming system, especially with Bill Gates being one of the biggest farm landowners there,
00:30:57.000 and he's pushing...
00:30:58.000 You know, insects and his, what's it called, appeal thing that he's putting on all the fruit and stuff.
00:31:07.000 But the problem is that in order to eat healthier, you have to spend more money because the shitty food is the least expensive.
00:31:13.000 What scares the shit out of me is what they're doing to farmers in Europe.
00:31:15.000 Like the Dutch farmers.
00:31:17.000 And in Ireland, they're telling farmers that they have to kill cows because they have too many cows and they're contributing to the global warming.
00:31:24.000 See, the guy, I think he was in Congress, he was interviewing somebody and asking these climate change people about how much CO2 is, and they're way off.
00:31:35.000 Yeah, they're way off.
00:31:36.000 And they're making the decisions.
00:31:38.000 And they literally are just, it's completely ideological.
00:31:42.000 The ideological battle, the demon that you're fighting is climate change, and we must do something to stop climate change.
00:31:50.000 India and China aren't doing a fucking thing, and they're contributing to most of it.
00:31:55.000 Literally most of the carbon that's being released, like if you look at the amount of fucking coal plants that China has, they're opening up new ones.
00:32:03.000 They have hundreds of them in construction.
00:32:05.000 Wasn't that the whole point of the – what was it in Paris?
00:32:08.000 They had some sort of – Climate accord.
00:32:10.000 Yeah.
00:32:11.000 But it wasn't taking effect or there was different rules for other countries that we had to adhere to something that nobody else was adhering to.
00:32:18.000 It's control.
00:32:19.000 But that's what we've done with the last – if you look at – I saw something on X about like what they were telling us in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s.
00:32:27.000 The world was always going to end based on something, you know, and they – And now it's this climate change.
00:32:32.000 We've got to change the way we live in order for us to keep going.
00:32:36.000 It's like they've been doing this for the last five decades.
00:32:38.000 They would like to control the food system.
00:32:40.000 And there's a tremendous amount of money in controlling the food system.
00:32:42.000 And if they could get you to only buy their food and they can convince you that their food is somehow or another emits less carbon and come up with some fucking Hollywood math that shows you that this is the only way to do it and this is the way out of this.
00:33:00.000 Well, I just learned something online that if you grow your own food, actually, your carbon footprint is much greater than...
00:33:08.000 I posted that on my Instagram, and it got fact-checked.
00:33:11.000 It got fact-checked.
00:33:13.000 Yeah, I don't see the fact-checked, but if someone goes to my page and sees that, it says something about, like...
00:33:21.000 Partially true or not.
00:33:23.000 Listen, it's a fucking article that was in whatever newspaper it was that I saw and I was like, this is hilarious.
00:33:30.000 How is that even possible?
00:33:32.000 How fucking crazy is that?
00:33:33.000 How is it even possible that it emits more carbon?
00:33:36.000 You're literally growing plants in the ground which take carbon dioxide and convert them to oxygen.
00:33:43.000 Yeah.
00:33:43.000 That's all you're doing.
00:33:44.000 You don't have any heavy machinery.
00:33:46.000 You're growing your own food.
00:33:47.000 So you just got a little garden.
00:33:49.000 So you growing your own food releases more carbon.
00:33:52.000 Don't do it, Joe.
00:33:52.000 Do not do it.
00:33:52.000 I don't even know how they did the math.
00:33:54.000 Like, how the fuck did they even say that?
00:33:57.000 What does it say if you go to my page and it says it's fact-checked?
00:34:00.000 I don't see a fact-check.
00:34:02.000 Oh, it's definitely fact-checked.
00:34:03.000 My wife showed it to me.
00:34:04.000 I'm just saying, I didn't see it.
00:34:06.000 I just checked on my phone, too.
00:34:07.000 I don't see it.
00:34:07.000 Well, maybe they took it down because people freaked out.
00:34:09.000 Yeah, there it is.
00:34:10.000 Five times greater.
00:34:12.000 How's it possible?
00:34:14.000 You're literally growing something that takes oxygen and puts it out into the air.
00:34:21.000 It converts carbon dioxide to oxygen through photosynthesis.
00:34:25.000 That's literally what it does.
00:34:26.000 It's literally what plants do.
00:34:28.000 They make oxygen!
00:34:29.000 Think about that.
00:34:30.000 What if you didn't have...
00:34:31.000 Everybody's got lawns, right?
00:34:33.000 What if you had your own fucking garden?
00:34:35.000 Yeah.
00:34:36.000 Like, how different would things be?
00:34:38.000 Well, you'd be a lot fucking healthier.
00:34:39.000 Yeah.
00:34:40.000 You'd be a lot healthier if you're eating stuff that doesn't have fucking...
00:34:43.000 All kinds of herbicides and pesticides sprayed all over it.
00:34:46.000 You know, when they've done these tests, when they check people's blood, some insane number, what is it, like 90-something percent of people they tested had glyphosate at detectable levels?
00:34:55.000 Yeah.
00:34:56.000 And glyphosate's nuts.
00:34:58.000 Like, they fucking spray that shit on everything, and it's crazy.
00:35:02.000 That's really bad for you.
00:35:04.000 I mean, you know who owns Monsanto, right?
00:35:07.000 It's Bayer, right?
00:35:08.000 Yeah.
00:35:08.000 Yeah.
00:35:09.000 Bayer, the same people that during the Holocaust were, I mean, Brigham talked about that on my podcast, where they took these people that were in the concentration camps, they took 150 women, they tried their drugs on them, killed them, and they said- We need more.
00:35:25.000 We need more.
00:35:25.000 And they sent them more.
00:35:27.000 So they sent them more.
00:35:28.000 So that company, Bayer, did that.
00:35:31.000 Yeah, Bob Manzano, which was taking a bunch of heat because their roundup is killing people.
00:35:37.000 Yeah.
00:35:39.000 How do you change that?
00:35:40.000 Well, you need a guy like Bobby Kennedy in office.
00:35:43.000 But, boy, they would put him in a convertible and take him through a ride through Dallas quick.
00:35:49.000 I don't know.
00:35:49.000 I think at some point, though, wouldn't that start...
00:35:53.000 Well, I think at some point in time...
00:35:54.000 People are waking up to certain things.
00:35:57.000 There's still...
00:35:58.000 The loudest group is not the majority.
00:36:02.000 I really don't believe it.
00:36:04.000 I think there's a silent majority that's like, fuck the media.
00:36:07.000 Legacy media lies nonstop.
00:36:09.000 Big Pharma doesn't have our best interest in mind.
00:36:12.000 Politicians are all corrupted, the majority of them.
00:36:16.000 Like, people are waking up, I think, slowly.
00:36:18.000 It's just, they're not the loudest.
00:36:20.000 Like, I was telling a friend, I said, who do you know in your life that spends their days online trolling accounts, commenting on posts, commenting on X? Nobody.
00:36:30.000 I don't know anybody like that, who, like, spends their life negative, common, but those are the ones that get amplified and talked about.
00:36:36.000 I'm like, that's not the swath of the population that's like the majority.
00:36:42.000 No, it's very unhealthy, small minority people.
00:36:45.000 Plus, a lot of them are paid.
00:36:47.000 There's a lot of them that are, whether it's from our government or other governments, much more foreign countries.
00:36:55.000 We know it's been documented that they have these internet troll farms, that they're specifically designed to get people upset and rile them up and get them fighting with each other and diminish our appreciation and our respect for democracy.
00:37:11.000 What was the quote you've talked about that was, what was it, 1950s, the Russian guy?
00:37:17.000 Oh, Yuri Besmanov?
00:37:19.000 Yeah.
00:37:19.000 Yeah, 1984. Oh, yeah, 1984. Or I think it was 82. But whatever it was.
00:37:23.000 84 sounds better because it's, you know.
00:37:25.000 Yeah, it's perfect Orwellian.
00:37:26.000 Yeah, Yuri Besmanov, he explained the subversion.
00:37:32.000 He explained how it works.
00:37:33.000 That was a multi-decade plan, right?
00:37:34.000 Yeah.
00:37:34.000 To slowly...
00:37:37.000 And back then it looked like nonsense.
00:37:39.000 Like, what are you talking about?
00:37:40.000 But now, absolutely everything he said in the 1980s has come to be true.
00:37:46.000 Yeah.
00:37:47.000 And the Soviet Union has done it.
00:37:48.000 They did it to us.
00:37:50.000 They fucking injected the universities with Marxism.
00:37:54.000 What do you think is going to happen with this, if Tucker really did interview Putin?
00:38:00.000 I think he did.
00:38:01.000 He's over there.
00:38:02.000 I was in a tweet where he said something like, why?
00:38:04.000 It's not out, though, right?
00:38:05.000 But what's crazy is the way CNN is already trying to spin it.
00:38:08.000 Like, you know, Putin's biggest fan, Tucker Carlson, a fan of Russia.
00:38:13.000 You know, they're trying to spin it.
00:38:15.000 Here's the McCarthyism tactics.
00:38:17.000 Yeah.
00:38:18.000 Oh, he's over there.
00:38:21.000 Do you know that he said that the NSA or the CIA, whoever it was, got into his signal account.
00:38:29.000 That's supposed to be encrypted.
00:38:31.000 But nothing's encrypted anymore.
00:38:33.000 I don't think there's a goddamn thing that you could do on your phone.
00:38:37.000 Unless you have some wacky fucking crazy operating system that maybe only fucking Jeff Bezos knows.
00:38:46.000 I think you can VPN, right?
00:38:48.000 I don't think you can.
00:38:49.000 I think with Pegasus, the way it was explained to me by Gavin DeBecker, who's a securities expert.
00:38:56.000 He's awesome.
00:38:58.000 Gavin said that the first Pegasus, which they got, that's how they got all Bezos' dick pics and all that shit, all the letters to his girlfriend, that apparently her brother was doing something to try to blackmail Bezos.
00:39:12.000 It's because he got a hold of it somehow or another.
00:39:15.000 That was through Pegasus.
00:39:17.000 Pegasus 1, he got a WhatsApp link, supposedly from MBS, from Saudi Arabia.
00:39:22.000 And he got this WhatsApp link.
00:39:24.000 He clicks on the link, and that puts Pegasus on his phone, and now they have full access to your phone.
00:39:29.000 He said with Pegasus 2, all he needs is your number.
00:39:32.000 They have your phone number.
00:39:33.000 They can see everything.
00:39:35.000 What?
00:39:35.000 Yeah.
00:39:37.000 Yeah, so I mean, I don't know how it works.
00:39:39.000 So I don't know how they would be able to access your Signal account.
00:39:42.000 I don't understand that.
00:39:44.000 I've had the guy who created Signal here.
00:39:46.000 And, you know, he seemed to think it was pretty rock solid.
00:39:49.000 But that was back then.
00:39:50.000 You know, it's like they're always one step ahead of this.
00:39:54.000 And before we know about it, there has to be some whistleblower that comes out and says, hey, the NSA can do this now.
00:40:00.000 Ed Snowden tried to do that.
00:40:01.000 Yeah.
00:40:02.000 Yeah.
00:40:02.000 My biggest problem with kind of a counter argument to that or a common sentiment is, well, I don't care.
00:40:09.000 I have nothing to hide.
00:40:10.000 It's like you're missing the fucking point.
00:40:12.000 The point is that there should be some freedom of privacy.
00:40:16.000 Yeah.
00:40:17.000 To not have to have fucking people looking at your shit.
00:40:20.000 Yeah.
00:40:20.000 And I don't care you have nothing to fucking hide.
00:40:22.000 This country was founded as a constitutional republic to protect personal freedoms.
00:40:28.000 And I shouldn't have to worry about somebody fucking in my shit all the time.
00:40:33.000 Well, that's one of the things that they did that was very insidious after 9-11.
00:40:36.000 Because after 9-11, they passed the Patriot Act and the NDA. They had that thing dialed up, right?
00:40:40.000 Yeah.
00:40:40.000 Oh, they had it ready.
00:40:41.000 Because they had tried to push that before and nobody wanted it.
00:40:44.000 And then when 9-11 came around, they just rolled all those bills, everything that they wanted to do, they just chucked it into the Patriot Act.
00:40:52.000 And then the Patriot Act II, which is even more draconian.
00:40:55.000 And now all that stuff's in place.
00:40:57.000 In definite detention, like for people that aren't tried for anything, they can just keep you in jail forever.
00:41:03.000 I mean, look what they're doing with Julian Assange.
00:41:05.000 I mean, Julian Assange, he's not really tried with a crime.
00:41:10.000 The crime was surprise sex.
00:41:13.000 That's what they were trying to get him.
00:41:14.000 They said that he was having sex with a woman, and then without her knowing it, he didn't have the condom on.
00:41:20.000 And then she didn't want to press charges.
00:41:23.000 I don't know what the extent of that case is now, or what they're going after him for now, but that was what they were initially trying to get him on.
00:41:32.000 Yeah, but I mean, what's his ultimate crime?
00:41:35.000 His ultimate crime is letting people know that...
00:41:38.000 What the hell's going on?
00:41:38.000 Yeah, there's a lot of...
00:41:40.000 Well, it was also that the collateral murder video.
00:41:44.000 People had a really hard time with that, where they gunned down those reporters, and then you could hear the...
00:41:49.000 Soldiers saying, yeah, shouldn't have kids there when they're shooting up that van.
00:41:54.000 The whole thing is very, very difficult to watch.
00:41:57.000 And it's one of the cold, hard realities of the evil that is war.
00:42:04.000 And, you know, you're seeing that right now, what's going on in Gaza.
00:42:07.000 You're seeing the same fucking thing.
00:42:09.000 You know, it's just, that's what war is.
00:42:12.000 And there's people that will justify that all day long and saying they shouldn't have done this and that's how it goes.
00:42:17.000 But, man, if you live in Gaza, what the fuck do you do?
00:42:21.000 Like, you didn't do anything.
00:42:22.000 You just got the wrong roll of the dice and you're stuck in this place that's controlled by Hamas with abject poverty.
00:42:29.000 No sanitation.
00:42:30.000 And now it's getting bombed into oblivion.
00:42:33.000 I mean, the videos, when you see what Gaza looked like and what it looks like now, it's fucking insane.
00:42:39.000 And they're not stopping.
00:42:41.000 They're not stopping.
00:42:42.000 They're just going to keep bombing it into oblivion.
00:42:45.000 Some of that has to change.
00:42:46.000 I mean, like, there has to be something that turns—I don't know what it is.
00:42:51.000 It might be the only thing.
00:42:53.000 It might be.
00:42:54.000 I mean, that's—it's interesting to see how much has changed, you know, in that over the last, I don't know, 15 years, just how people can talk about it now without being called crazy.
00:43:05.000 There's some disclosure.
00:43:07.000 Mm-hmm.
00:43:09.000 I actually went back to the day I was watching an old...
00:43:11.000 I think it was from 2018 or 2019 when you had Bob Lazar and Jeremy on.
00:43:17.000 And, I mean, he's been talking about this forever.
00:43:20.000 Yeah.
00:43:21.000 But, like, what's going to happen with that?
00:43:24.000 There's got to be something.
00:43:25.000 You know, there's been conspiracies about Project Bluebeam, and there's obviously a lot of these dumbs around the country where there's interesting technology and stuff, but...
00:43:36.000 I got to think that something...
00:43:37.000 I think this is going to be crazy.
00:43:38.000 I think something...
00:43:39.000 Especially if it gets down to it and it looks like the Trump wave is going to, you know...
00:43:46.000 Because they can't roll out Weekend at Bernie's and expect him to be able to debate or actually carry a conversation.
00:43:53.000 That's the plan.
00:43:53.000 I think the plan is you wait until it becomes extremely obvious that Biden can't do it.
00:44:00.000 And then they pull him out.
00:44:01.000 And I think they probably put in Gavin Newsom.
00:44:04.000 That's what I think.
00:44:04.000 He's hated, though.
00:44:06.000 In California.
00:44:07.000 Yeah, but there's enough zombies out there that'll just blue no matter who, and he's our guy.
00:44:13.000 They don't care.
00:44:15.000 They're like, no one could have had California.
00:44:17.000 The population's too high, and it's like, what are you going to do?
00:44:20.000 And they'll come up with some sort of a reason, and he'll move a little bit towards the middle.
00:44:24.000 He'll do some common sense things and get people to go, all right, I like that, and that'll be enough.
00:44:31.000 Anyone but Trump people?
00:44:33.000 Look at the fucking view.
00:44:35.000 Whoopi Goldberg's saying that you might be poor, and you might be saying, well, maybe Donald Trump would be better for the government.
00:44:41.000 He's going to put you in camps.
00:44:42.000 Did you see her saying that?
00:44:43.000 No, but I'm not surprised.
00:44:45.000 Put you in camps!
00:44:46.000 Nobody watches that.
00:44:47.000 Who watches that show?
00:44:48.000 Crazy old ladies.
00:44:49.000 Crazy old ladies are at home right now.
00:44:51.000 But instead of, like, if you look at this two-party system and go, Who's the lesser of the two evils?
00:44:59.000 I would say, how about let's fuck the two-party system and let's have some more options.
00:45:06.000 And one of them, in my opinion, is RFK, who's phenomenal.
00:45:10.000 Well, they kept him off the ballot.
00:45:11.000 They did a phenomenal job of making sure that he wasn't in the primaries the same way they were going to do with Bernie Sanders.
00:45:17.000 That's why he went independent.
00:45:19.000 But get him in a debate.
00:45:20.000 Why do we have to wait until fucking September for a debate?
00:45:23.000 Well, how about the fact that he won't debate, nor will Biden.
00:45:26.000 No one's debating.
00:45:26.000 This is the first time we've ever had a presidential election where neither the incumbent nor the main guy on the opposition is debating.
00:45:35.000 So Trump said he's not going to debate?
00:45:36.000 He's not debating anybody.
00:45:37.000 Why?
00:45:37.000 He'd mop the floor?
00:45:38.000 He doesn't have to.
00:45:39.000 Yeah, I guess that's true.
00:45:41.000 So he's like, fuck you, I'm not debating.
00:45:42.000 And also because they keep trying him.
00:45:44.000 They keep bringing him into court.
00:45:46.000 There's all these cases that they keep bringing up.
00:45:48.000 They just lawsuit into oblivion.
00:45:52.000 The whole thing is wild.
00:45:53.000 But it just emboldens his followers, though.
00:45:55.000 Yeah, it does.
00:45:56.000 It has the exact opposite effect.
00:45:58.000 I mean, it's a similar sort of playbook in a lot of ways to what they did during the pandemic, where the more they attack him, the more people are like, what the fuck is true?
00:46:09.000 Because I don't believe you guys anymore, and when you're going after him, I kind of think that you're just doing this because you don't want him to win, and that's Banana Republic shit.
00:46:18.000 When you're But prosecuting your political opponents, specifically because you don't want your political opponents to be able to make it to the vote, that's Banana Republic shit.
00:46:28.000 But that's what we're living in.
00:46:29.000 Yeah.
00:46:30.000 We have a captured media system.
00:46:33.000 We have a captured medicine system.
00:46:36.000 Yeah.
00:46:37.000 Education system.
00:46:38.000 Captured education system.
00:46:39.000 Yeah.
00:46:40.000 And we're Team America World Police with bases all over the world.
00:46:45.000 It's every country on the southern and eastern border of Russia.
00:46:49.000 What I'm hoping is one of the things that's happened Over the last few years, specifically, is the deterioration of the trust of media because of the access to information that people have now, where it's just undeniable.
00:47:04.000 At a certain point in time, they have to admit certain things, like lab leak theory.
00:47:08.000 They have to admit certain things.
00:47:09.000 They're avoiding, like the plague, this all-cause mortality increase.
00:47:14.000 But enough people are aware of it.
00:47:16.000 Enough people know people that have been vaccine injured.
00:47:19.000 Enough people know people that have died.
00:47:20.000 Enough people know young people that have had heart attacks.
00:47:23.000 Where there's enough suspicion and there's enough pause where people are reconsidering and then there's been this silent shift to the center of people that were like radically left.
00:47:35.000 Friends of mine that I had in California that were fucking so left, far left, and now they're like ready to vote Republican.
00:47:42.000 They're literally ready to vote Republican because they don't want this anymore because they see where this is going.
00:47:48.000 My hope is that with AI and with even more access to information, because the information just streams and it moves on and innovation moves on no matter what we do, that it's going to get to a point where lying is virtually impossible.
00:48:05.000 And I think that's where this kind of emergent technology leads us to, unless some other superpower gets a hold of it before we do.
00:48:13.000 But don't you think one of the...
00:48:15.000 I agree with you 100%.
00:48:16.000 I would just say, with AI, haven't we seen enough examples already of some hardwired coding of information that is like a little bit woke?
00:48:28.000 Yeah.
00:48:29.000 We have.
00:48:30.000 We have.
00:48:30.000 But then there's Grok, which is Elon's AI, which is the opposite of that.
00:48:35.000 I haven't seen that.
00:48:36.000 Yeah, I haven't used it either.
00:48:37.000 But the idea is that it's supposedly the antidote to that.
00:48:40.000 I think there's enough people that don't want that.
00:48:43.000 And it just, as time goes on, look, even the fucking New York Times wrote a major story about detransitioners.
00:48:50.000 So people that were convinced at an early age that they were trans and now they're detransitioning and their lives are ruined.
00:48:57.000 Their body's ruined.
00:48:58.000 They can't have children anymore.
00:48:59.000 They lost their breasts.
00:49:00.000 They lost their penis.
00:49:02.000 It's in fucking sanity.
00:49:04.000 They just had an eight-year-old kid that was taken away from his father because the father doesn't want the boy to be on hormone blockers and the mother does.
00:49:12.000 It was happening in Canada for a while.
00:49:13.000 I've seen some cases in the States, which is...
00:49:16.000 This is what Jordan Peterson was warning people about in 2016 when I first met him.
00:49:21.000 And everybody was like, why do you care about what's happening in colleges?
00:49:25.000 This is just fringe things that are happening in colleges.
00:49:28.000 Those people are going to graduate, and they're going to enter into the workforce, and it's a new mentality that exists.
00:49:34.000 It's not an objective reality mentality.
00:49:37.000 It's an ideologically-based mentality that's going to change the world At large, unless we stop it in his tracks.
00:49:44.000 Like, they're not looking at reality.
00:49:46.000 The fucking detransitioner thing, the fact that it's in the New York Times is big.
00:49:50.000 But do you know why?
00:49:51.000 I mean, there's a whole story that somebody wrote about it.
00:49:53.000 It's because of trial lawyers.
00:49:55.000 Everyone's going to get sued and it's going to be a big fucking problem because you've thousands of people that have unfortunately given into this.
00:50:05.000 Kids are extremely malleable.
00:50:08.000 They're extremely easy to manipulate.
00:50:10.000 They're extremely easy to influence.
00:50:12.000 We've always known this.
00:50:13.000 It's one of the reasons why you don't let children get tattoos.
00:50:16.000 It's one of the reasons why you don't let children join the military.
00:50:19.000 It's one of the reasons why you don't let children have children.
00:50:22.000 It's one of the reasons why we have Ages of consent because we know they're not young enough, they're not smart enough, they're not old enough to make their own decisions.
00:50:30.000 They can be manipulated.
00:50:33.000 So if they can be manipulated that way, why the fuck would we think they can't be manipulated by this emerging market, which is gender care, this gender affirming care?
00:50:42.000 Have you ever seen the map of like gender care from 2007 versus 2022?
00:50:49.000 Have you ever seen that?
00:50:49.000 Yeah, I saw it somewhere.
00:50:50.000 Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie, so you can take a look at it.
00:50:53.000 But it's fucking bananas.
00:50:54.000 It's a business.
00:50:56.000 My friend, who is a doctor, told me that his friend, who is a plastic surgeon, who moved into gender transition care, he told me the difference between what that person gets paid for an arthroscopic surgery versus what they get paid for a gender transition.
00:51:11.000 I forget what the number was for arthroscopic surgery, but for the gender transition, he gets $70,000 every time he does this.
00:51:18.000 And he goes, and this guy is raking it in.
00:51:21.000 He's doing them all week.
00:51:24.000 It's so scary.
00:51:26.000 It's the cure to all that ails for a lot of people.
00:51:30.000 They think, oh, well, this is what's going to fix me.
00:51:32.000 I'm fucked up.
00:51:33.000 Why am I fucked up?
00:51:34.000 What's wrong with me?
00:51:35.000 What's my problem?
00:51:37.000 Oh, I'm really a girl.
00:51:39.000 Or, oh, I'm really a boy.
00:51:41.000 And you know kids don't want to be an outsider.
00:51:43.000 Exactly.
00:51:45.000 It's kind of in vogue to be non-binary or whatever.
00:51:49.000 30% of kids today recognize themselves either as trans, gay, bi, or non-binary.
00:51:58.000 30%.
00:51:59.000 Now look at this.
00:52:00.000 The pediatric gender clinics in 2007, there was two.
00:52:04.000 One was in Virginia and one, it looks like it was in Massachusetts.
00:52:07.000 And now look at them.
00:52:08.000 They're all over the country.
00:52:10.000 And this is in 2022. I mean, that's crazy.
00:52:15.000 The idea that this is just they're recognizing there's a problem that existed all the time but wasn't being treated.
00:52:22.000 That's nuts.
00:52:23.000 That doesn't make sense.
00:52:24.000 Especially when you're talking about children.
00:52:26.000 They're fucking kids.
00:52:27.000 Yeah, they're kids.
00:52:28.000 Kids.
00:52:28.000 And there's a thing called Munchausen's by proxy.
00:52:31.000 Yeah.
00:52:32.000 You know, where women, sick women, will make their children ill.
00:52:37.000 They will do it on purpose so that they get attention for their children.
00:52:41.000 There's been women out there, evil, crazy people, that have poisoned their children.
00:52:45.000 Yeah, I've seen a couple of the documentaries about it.
00:52:47.000 It's nuts.
00:52:48.000 Yeah.
00:52:48.000 It's a psychological disorder, just like gender dysphoria.
00:52:52.000 It's a psychological disorder.
00:52:54.000 It's always been listed as a psychological disorder.
00:52:57.000 And now in 2024, everyone who is a man who thinks he's a woman is brave and amazing.
00:53:04.000 No one's sick.
00:53:06.000 So you're allowing people that are absolutely perverts and sex offenders to go into women's locker rooms with a hard-on, and no one can say anything.
00:53:14.000 And if you say something, they will protest your business and shut you down.
00:53:18.000 There's no room for any nuance.
00:53:21.000 There's no room for someone to say, hey, listen, for some people, there's clearly This thing in them that makes them feel like they're in the wrong body and if we are compassionate and if we are kind, we would want that person to be able to express themselves in any way they want that makes them feel better that helps everybody.
00:53:40.000 But also, there's perverts.
00:53:42.000 But also, there's people that if they find out all they have to do is pretend they're a woman and they can go in the women's locker room and watch women change.
00:53:50.000 They'll do that too.
00:53:51.000 I'm sure you've seen the guy in Canada, the 50-year-old man that identifies as a 15-year-old girl and got to change in the young girl's locker room and got to compete with these young girls.
00:54:01.000 It's utter, complete insanity.
00:54:04.000 Psychosis.
00:54:05.000 Yeah.
00:54:05.000 First of all, you're 50. You're not 15. Period.
00:54:09.000 Period.
00:54:10.000 That's not negotiable.
00:54:13.000 You live a certain amount of time, period.
00:54:16.000 You can't say I identify as a baby and then wear diapers and have everybody take care of you.
00:54:21.000 That's fucking crazy.
00:54:22.000 But the fact that they're letting that, we are one step away from minor attracted persons being something that everybody's cool with.
00:54:32.000 Because that's also on the agenda.
00:54:34.000 And every now and then, they sneak that out there.
00:54:37.000 Every now and then, you'll see it in universities, see people talking about it.
00:54:40.000 This is this one maligned group that has no support, minor attracted persons.
00:54:46.000 Yeah.
00:54:46.000 It's sick.
00:54:47.000 It's sick.
00:54:48.000 It's sick.
00:54:49.000 It's sick.
00:54:49.000 And the rest of the world is fucking laughing at us.
00:54:52.000 Yeah.
00:54:52.000 They're laughing at how crazy, especially Russia.
00:54:54.000 They think it's hilarious.
00:54:55.000 They're laughing at how ridiculous we are.
00:54:57.000 I bet you Putin's probably going to say something about that in this interview.
00:54:59.000 I hope he does.
00:55:00.000 Yeah.
00:55:01.000 And he would be right.
00:55:02.000 I just don't...
00:55:03.000 I don't know why they're just so hell-bent on going after the kids.
00:55:08.000 Obviously, there's...
00:55:09.000 I think it's money.
00:55:09.000 There's huge money in it.
00:55:10.000 I think it's money, and it's also the waving the flag of woke.
00:55:14.000 You know?
00:55:15.000 I mean...
00:55:17.000 It's just, it's crazy.
00:55:19.000 It's really weird.
00:55:20.000 It's really weird.
00:55:20.000 But you've had people on here talk about the development of the brain, right?
00:55:23.000 Yes.
00:55:24.000 And it's all the way to what?
00:55:25.000 25?
00:55:26.000 25 from men.
00:55:26.000 Yeah.
00:55:26.000 Women develop earlier.
00:55:28.000 They get their shit together quicker, but we know that in real life.
00:55:31.000 Yeah.
00:55:32.000 There's something about men, we don't get it.
00:55:35.000 I think back to the time when I was 21. Yeah, I was a fucking idiot.
00:55:39.000 Yeah.
00:55:40.000 Just pumped up full of hormones and just driving too fast and doing stupid shit.
00:55:45.000 Yeah, that's why they get young men to go to war.
00:55:47.000 They don't know any better.
00:55:48.000 Yeah.
00:55:49.000 But leave the kids alone.
00:55:50.000 Leave the fucking kids alone.
00:55:52.000 Especially, you know, what's really hilarious.
00:55:54.000 There's this guy that interviewed all these people and said, do you believe that it's okay to encourage young people to transition?
00:56:04.000 All these blue-haired people are like, yes, I do.
00:56:06.000 To Catholicism?
00:56:09.000 And they're like, no.
00:56:11.000 LAUGHTER I love it.
00:56:15.000 And they were doing the same thing with tattoos.
00:56:17.000 Do you think 12-year-old is too young to get a tattoo?
00:56:20.000 Yeah, they don't know any better.
00:56:21.000 But what about change their gender?
00:56:22.000 Yes, they know.
00:56:23.000 Okay.
00:56:24.000 It's just ideology, man.
00:56:27.000 You might as well be a Scientologist.
00:56:28.000 You might as well be a Mooney.
00:56:30.000 It's the same thing.
00:56:31.000 It's the same sort of religious-like thinking that exists in all sorts of groups of people that we call cults.
00:56:38.000 But we don't want to call these hardcore leftists – we don't want to call it a cult.
00:56:44.000 But Marc Andreessen had a really good analysis of it on the podcast where he said it has everything that every cult has.
00:56:51.000 It has strict adherence to the rules.
00:56:53.000 It has excommunication when you get kicked out, how they – They fucking go after you and it's devastating socially.
00:57:02.000 It's all the same things that Scientology does.
00:57:05.000 All the same things that a lot of other cults do.
00:57:07.000 But we don't want to look at it as a cult.
00:57:09.000 Because you see the rainbow flag.
00:57:12.000 You see the LBG. What is the 2, the I, the A, and the plus?
00:57:16.000 What's the I? I don't know.
00:57:18.000 Some of them are asexual.
00:57:19.000 I think they should stay the fuck out of it.
00:57:21.000 If you're asexual, stay out of it.
00:57:23.000 If you say you're asexual, good.
00:57:25.000 That's fine.
00:57:26.000 I believe it.
00:57:26.000 I believe there's some people that are asexual.
00:57:28.000 Stay out of it.
00:57:29.000 Stay out of it.
00:57:30.000 You're not in a malign group.
00:57:31.000 Nobody's fucking going after asexuals.
00:57:34.000 Nobody discriminates against asexuals.
00:57:37.000 So if they're in there, is that the A? Yeah.
00:57:39.000 Yeah.
00:57:40.000 Fuck off, asexuals.
00:57:42.000 Get the fuck out of here.
00:57:43.000 Okay, what's the two?
00:57:45.000 Two-spirit.
00:57:45.000 Oh, like foxkin.
00:57:47.000 Yeah, that's me, bro.
00:57:49.000 I'm a wolf spirit.
00:57:50.000 I think two-spirit has to do with Native Americans.
00:57:54.000 Oh, okay.
00:57:55.000 I think.
00:57:56.000 Oh, look at the LBGTQ flag.
00:57:58.000 It pulsates.
00:58:00.000 Does any other flag pulsate?
00:58:02.000 I don't think so.
00:58:03.000 Two-spirit.
00:58:04.000 A modern pan-Indian umbrella used by some indigenous North Americans to describe native people in their communities who fulfill a traditional third-general ceremonial and social role in their cultures.
00:58:18.000 Yeah, but that's also what the Lakotas had.
00:58:21.000 So the Lakota recognized transgender people as someone who is a revered member of society because they understood both men and women.
00:58:31.000 They also had something called the Heyoko, which was a sacred clown.
00:58:35.000 They had this one guy who made fun of everything.
00:58:38.000 Because if you couldn't make fun of things, they were bullshit.
00:58:40.000 And so that's the way they would test things.
00:58:42.000 You get mad they're making fun of that?
00:58:44.000 Oh, that's bullshit.
00:58:45.000 You're bullshit.
00:58:46.000 Like if someone made fun of you for being really good at football, you'd be like, okay.
00:58:50.000 You can't make fun of that.
00:58:51.000 Say all you want.
00:58:53.000 You're not going to hurt my feelings.
00:58:54.000 You know, you're Aaron Rodgers.
00:58:56.000 You're really fucking good at football.
00:58:58.000 Like, if someone makes fun of that, but if someone made fun of, you know, your mustache, and you're like, hey man, fuck off.
00:59:04.000 Like, oh, you got a problem with that mustache.
00:59:06.000 You think that mustache is stupid.
00:59:09.000 And so that's how they would test things in their culture that were bullshit.
00:59:13.000 But that's why we need comedy.
00:59:15.000 I mean, that's what I've loved about South Park for so many years.
00:59:19.000 They're the tip of the spear.
00:59:20.000 Yeah.
00:59:21.000 Just how they're able to go, hey, society, what the fuck are we doing?
00:59:25.000 They're the best.
00:59:27.000 They're a national treasure.
00:59:29.000 They really are.
00:59:29.000 No matter what, they can get away with it.
00:59:32.000 They go so hard in the paint.
00:59:33.000 I know.
00:59:35.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:59:36.000 Where would we be without South Park?
00:59:38.000 I mean, where would we be without South Park, for real?
00:59:41.000 Goddamn.
00:59:43.000 And how about the Simpsons?
00:59:45.000 How about the Simpsons keep fucking calling?
00:59:48.000 Predicting everything.
00:59:49.000 They predicted the Apple Vision Pro.
00:59:51.000 There's an old Simpsons episode where people are walking around with those goggles and they're falling into manholes.
00:59:56.000 And now you're seeing people out there in the street swiping things and moving away and wearing these goggles on the street.
01:00:02.000 I can't believe they got Trump on the escalator, though.
01:00:05.000 That, to me, is one of the craziest ones when they got him walking.
01:00:07.000 Riding the escalator down like he did in that one moment where I think he had just declared for the presidency and he kind of rode this elevator down.
01:00:15.000 Yeah, how did the citizens do that?
01:00:17.000 This is what I think.
01:00:18.000 Time traveler?
01:00:19.000 I don't think time traveler, but I think that if you're so into- This one right here.
01:00:24.000 Here it is.
01:00:25.000 Look at this.
01:00:26.000 They literally had Trump waving.
01:00:30.000 It's the same photo.
01:00:32.000 It's so crazy.
01:00:34.000 God, that's so nuts.
01:00:36.000 Oh, wait a minute.
01:00:37.000 People think the Simpsons predicted Trump's win, but it's what?
01:00:40.000 What does that say, Jamie, on the right-hand side?
01:00:43.000 What are they saying?
01:00:44.000 It's not true?
01:00:45.000 It's not true.
01:00:46.000 Viral image claiming this show, scroll back up, called the 2016 electoral map has nothing to do with Trump.
01:00:53.000 The claim the Simpsons not only foresaw Donald Trump's run for president, but also predicted which states he'd carry, making the rounds as wrong.
01:00:59.000 The claim is wrong...
01:01:01.000 They're just saying they claim too much, I would believe, but that picture...
01:01:05.000 But the picture is they had Trump coming down the escalator, and he was going down the escalator, and he did wave his right hand.
01:01:11.000 The thing is, it's the same image.
01:01:14.000 No matter what, the fact that he did that, and they predicted it, I feel like some people...
01:01:22.000 If you're intensely creative and clearly those guys are if you're Constantly you have your thumb on the pulse of satire and culture and where things are headed I Think you can see things.
01:01:36.000 I think you get whispers from the muse.
01:01:40.000 I think the universe sends you messages.
01:01:44.000 There's like There's been talk about that in Diana Posolka's book, American Cosmic.
01:01:53.000 Jamie just gave me the wreck before you got here.
01:01:56.000 She's fascinating.
01:01:57.000 I'm going to read that.
01:01:57.000 But in that book, one of the things that they go into is 2001 and the monolith.
01:02:06.000 Whatever it is that brings this monolith to these primitive primates and they see this thing and this thing sort of represents where they're going to and what the future is.
01:02:17.000 It's kind of...
01:02:19.000 In the book they theorize whether or not that's a television or it's a screen or it's a cell phone.
01:02:26.000 But it's this something that's pulling us towards it.
01:02:30.000 And that Kubrick recognized that.
01:02:32.000 But Kubrick was a fucking genius.
01:02:34.000 Like a real scary genius.
01:02:36.000 Like he would do complex mathematics in his spare time.
01:02:40.000 And all of his movies were encoded with all this weird, like, Easter egg-y stuff.
01:02:45.000 Like, The Shining.
01:02:46.000 Shining with the shirt?
01:02:47.000 It's all about the moon landing.
01:02:49.000 Yeah.
01:02:49.000 Even the amount of miles to the moon is the exact same number as the room that was haunted.
01:02:58.000 The kid wearing the NASA shirt.
01:03:00.000 Like, there's so many things that people connect with the moon landing.
01:03:05.000 And then the ultimate conspiracy theory was that Kubrick faked the moon landing.
01:03:09.000 Oh, that, yeah.
01:03:10.000 That's the best one.
01:03:11.000 I love that one.
01:03:12.000 That's my favorite.
01:03:13.000 Yeah, I like that one, too.
01:03:16.000 Yeah.
01:03:17.000 Eyes Wide Shut's pretty crazy.
01:03:19.000 Oh, my God.
01:03:19.000 That is pretty crazy.
01:03:20.000 Because back when Eyes Wide Shut first came out, everybody's like, well, that's not real.
01:03:23.000 And then you hear about Epstein's Island, and you're like, Maybe it was.
01:03:27.000 Maybe there are parties like that.
01:03:29.000 Well, there's a conspiracy that he was killed because of that movie.
01:03:33.000 Really?
01:03:33.000 You know about this?
01:03:34.000 So, supposedly he showed the movie to the executives and they wanted him to take out 15 minutes of the movie.
01:03:40.000 Everybody got kicked out of the theater.
01:03:43.000 I mean, again, I don't...
01:03:44.000 I'll probably get fact-checked on this, but...
01:03:46.000 And then a few days later...
01:03:47.000 Where did you read this?
01:03:48.000 Is it on Reddit?
01:03:50.000 Let's see it.
01:03:50.000 Come on.
01:03:51.000 Here it is.
01:03:51.000 Kubrick died of a heart attack six days after showing the final cut of Eyes Wide Shut to Warner Brothers.
01:03:56.000 Making it the final film he directed, he reportedly considered his greatest contribution to the art of cinema.
01:04:00.000 Wow.
01:04:00.000 They supposedly got into a yelling match with the executives about some of the stuff that was in it.
01:04:04.000 Was he murdered because of Eyes Wide Shut?
01:04:06.000 But what was so egregious about that film that they would murder him though?
01:04:13.000 I mean, exposing too much.
01:04:16.000 Sex cults?
01:04:17.000 Yeah, I don't trust Quora.
01:04:19.000 I don't trust any fact-checking organizations anymore.
01:04:22.000 There's a weird number of things at the bottom.
01:04:23.000 Oh, yeah.
01:04:24.000 That's, I mean, that's...
01:04:25.000 They're getting nutty with that stuff.
01:04:27.000 I guess a little crazy.
01:04:28.000 Yeah.
01:04:28.000 But that's a crazy movie, the fact that he did, you know...
01:04:31.000 Yeah.
01:04:32.000 He kind of showed some of that stuff.
01:04:33.000 There's weird stuff, like, at the end of the movie, too, when those two guys come and get their daughter and stuff.
01:04:39.000 There's...
01:04:40.000 A lot of weird stuff.
01:04:42.000 Well, that weird stuff, it used to be so easy to dismiss.
01:04:46.000 But now, you know, it's the Alex Jones was right meme.
01:04:49.000 Like, you realize how many times that guy's been right?
01:04:52.000 Like, Jesus Christ.
01:04:53.000 Like, how is he so good at predicting all these things that are happening?
01:04:57.000 Because the guy's balls deep in it all day long.
01:04:59.000 Yeah.
01:04:59.000 You could call him right now.
01:05:00.000 It's like, I'm doing the documents.
01:05:01.000 I'm reading the research right now.
01:05:03.000 This is sick.
01:05:03.000 This is what they're doing.
01:05:04.000 This is bland.
01:05:05.000 I talk to him all the time.
01:05:07.000 We text each other.
01:05:08.000 Every time something's crazy, I text him like, what is this?
01:05:10.000 He'll send me all these fucking documents.
01:05:12.000 He's talking about, I saw something he said the other day about, you know, you gotta have your shit ready in case they...
01:05:21.000 Turn the power off, turn the water off, do something like that?
01:05:24.000 Well, there's a lot of people that think that, including me.
01:05:27.000 Because if I was a foreign government and I wanted to cripple America, I would kill the power grid.
01:05:32.000 We'd go feral in two weeks.
01:05:35.000 It would be chaos in two weeks, as soon as people don't have water and food.
01:05:39.000 And their children are starving.
01:05:40.000 People go crazy.
01:05:41.000 They start eating dogs.
01:05:42.000 They start shooting deer in their neighborhood.
01:05:44.000 And then that runs out.
01:05:45.000 And then they realize they don't know how to keep food good.
01:05:48.000 You know, when it's hot out, they don't know how to get water.
01:05:51.000 They don't know how to treat water.
01:05:53.000 It could get real bad real quick.
01:05:55.000 We are not self-sufficient even remotely.
01:05:57.000 There's small pockets of human beings in this country that are self-sufficient.
01:06:01.000 But if you had to guess how many people could survive off-grid if everything went haywire, it's like 1%.
01:06:07.000 Which is probably what happens when there's a massive catastrophe, some sort of a global catastrophic event like a super volcano or something along those lines.
01:06:17.000 Another younger, driest situation.
01:06:18.000 Yeah, it's probably 1% of the people survive.
01:06:21.000 It's probably what happened back then, too.
01:06:23.000 Yeah.
01:06:23.000 Well, that's what I've always said is the reason why if you go back Look at like ancient Egypt.
01:06:28.000 Look at how insanely sophisticated they were.
01:06:31.000 And if you subscribe to the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's perspective, which I do, which is that at one point in time, there was an incredibly sophisticated society, probably more sophisticated than we are, that lived in Africa,
01:06:47.000 in Egypt, and that those people were probably in a different – Different direction, but far more advanced than we are today.
01:06:55.000 And then they were wiped out.
01:06:57.000 And then go after that, so if you're talking about 11,000 years ago, 11,800 years ago when they got wiped out and it just, you know, we're down to like 1% of the population.
01:07:07.000 Think about what history looks like when you go back 4,000 years, 3,000.
01:07:12.000 It's fucking barbarians.
01:07:14.000 Just the most horrible instances of brutality and murder and chaos and what Genghis Khan did and what the Mongols did and what, I mean, the pirates and the crusades and all the fucking horrible shit that people did back then.
01:07:31.000 Because those were the descendants of the people that were so barbaric that they survived.
01:07:35.000 Those are the descendants of the 1% that made it through that catastrophe.
01:07:39.000 And you had to be fucking horrible to do that.
01:07:42.000 You probably had to be horrible.
01:07:44.000 You're probably killing your neighbors, probably eating people.
01:07:47.000 I mean, what percentage of our population, if you go back 10,000 years ago, were cannibals?
01:07:52.000 It's probably pretty high.
01:07:54.000 50?
01:07:54.000 It's probably pretty high.
01:07:55.000 You had to do what you got to do.
01:07:57.000 We know what happens to the Donner Party.
01:07:58.000 We know what happens to people that get stuck on a boat.
01:08:01.000 They're off at sea and one guy dies.
01:08:03.000 They just start eating them.
01:08:04.000 We know that.
01:08:05.000 The movie Alive.
01:08:06.000 Yeah, but it always happens.
01:08:07.000 It always happens.
01:08:08.000 I want to ask you a question about what you just said, but I need to take a piss.
01:08:13.000 Oh, okay, let's pass.
01:08:14.000 We'll be right back, folks.
01:08:16.000 Okay, and we're back.
01:08:17.000 Marshall, come say hi.
01:08:18.000 Come here, pal.
01:08:19.000 Come on up here.
01:08:20.000 Come on up here.
01:08:21.000 Come here, pal.
01:08:22.000 Come say hi to everybody.
01:08:24.000 You want to be on camera?
01:08:24.000 Come on.
01:08:25.000 Yes, sir.
01:08:26.000 Come here.
01:08:27.000 Hello, buddy.
01:08:29.000 Hello, buddy.
01:08:30.000 What are you doing?
01:08:32.000 You get sad when we're not here.
01:08:35.000 This is the best.
01:08:38.000 Jamie, did we figure that out?
01:08:40.000 You want to get Carl on camera?
01:08:46.000 Marshall looks at Carl as an attention thief.
01:08:49.000 He's like, that guy's going to steal my attention.
01:08:54.000 What was the question we were looking at?
01:08:56.000 Oh, we're going to look up whatever this fucking thing means under the Carl Schwab, Klaus Schwab photograph.
01:09:04.000 You know that wacky photograph that we have out there?
01:09:07.000 It has something in Latin underneath it.
01:09:09.000 I'm going to send it to you.
01:09:12.000 Okay, I sent it.
01:09:14.000 He's standing at that podium dressed like Darth Vader.
01:09:18.000 It's incredible.
01:09:19.000 They're so out in the open with it.
01:09:21.000 Yeah.
01:09:21.000 It almost makes you feel like you're being punked.
01:09:24.000 Scientia, ingenium, virtuous.
01:09:27.000 So it's like...
01:09:28.000 I'll look it up.
01:09:30.000 Does this have something with virtue and science?
01:09:32.000 Trust the science.
01:09:33.000 Yeah.
01:09:33.000 Trust the science.
01:09:36.000 Do you see the thing they said recently?
01:09:38.000 We will no longer have to have elections because we can predict the results.
01:09:44.000 Knowledge is the virtue of talent.
01:09:47.000 Oh.
01:09:48.000 Huh.
01:09:49.000 Direct translation, though.
01:09:50.000 What translation they're using could be a little different.
01:09:53.000 Knowledge is the virtue of talent.
01:09:56.000 Hmm.
01:09:57.000 Hmm.
01:09:59.000 That's a fucking cone.
01:10:01.000 That's like the sound of one hand clapping.
01:10:03.000 Here's what I found out.
01:10:05.000 College motto of Kaunos University of Technology in Lithuania.
01:10:11.000 The act of honoring or something else.
01:10:14.000 Hmm.
01:10:14.000 Okay.
01:10:16.000 That fucking dude, though.
01:10:18.000 Literally, he was talking to one of the Google guys, and he was saying that With the ability to predict things that will no longer need elections.
01:10:29.000 Like, oh, how convenient!
01:10:32.000 Why don't we just let you and the WF or the UN just tell us who's going to be in charge?
01:10:37.000 The fact that that is a place where people go by private jet, so they fly in these jets to tell everybody that they're going to stop pumping out carbon.
01:10:48.000 Yeah.
01:10:49.000 Love it.
01:10:50.000 Keep it up, man.
01:10:52.000 But that's, honestly, but that's the waking up.
01:10:54.000 It's just the hypocrisy is everywhere.
01:10:56.000 Yeah, it's everywhere.
01:10:57.000 You fucking people who are telling us, cut your carbon footprint, don't grow your own food, eat fucking insects, stop eating meat.
01:11:05.000 Yeah.
01:11:05.000 It's like, you're not adhering to any of this shit.
01:11:08.000 No, of course not.
01:11:09.000 They were serving meat at the WEF. Yeah.
01:11:11.000 When people went there.
01:11:12.000 Yeah.
01:11:13.000 What I wanted to ask you before, because I'm fascinated by Egypt, is when you had Randall and Graham on, Randall alluded to technologies that I've actually done some research, even though you shouldn't do your own research.
01:11:26.000 I've done some research on and thought about how they move those fucking stones.
01:11:32.000 And there's a lot of people with theories about using frequency to be able to move the stones.
01:11:39.000 And Randall mentioned on that podcast that he'd been working with a company for like seven years.
01:11:43.000 Yeah.
01:11:44.000 And that there was technology that was about to come out.
01:11:45.000 There was actually somebody who did something similar in Florida, I believe, built a structure.
01:11:49.000 Oh, the Coral Gables.
01:11:51.000 Yeah, the Coral Castle, rather.
01:11:52.000 Has anything come from that?
01:11:53.000 Do you know?
01:11:53.000 No.
01:11:54.000 No.
01:11:56.000 I mean...
01:11:57.000 Because they still can't...
01:11:58.000 I mean, they talk about slave labor or log rolling, but these mega-ton stones that were used to build the pyramids, like...
01:12:10.000 What they say, how it was moved, and the time it would have taken, and the manpower, to me, is complete bullshit.
01:12:16.000 It's also how far they had to take them through the mountains.
01:12:18.000 Yeah, where the quarries were.
01:12:19.000 No machinery.
01:12:19.000 Yeah.
01:12:20.000 Yeah, it's almost like it's so immense and so incredible that it's there as a reminder that something was different.
01:12:33.000 But I don't think there's ancient technology like that that could have been used.
01:12:37.000 I'm sure of it.
01:12:38.000 I'm sure they had something.
01:12:39.000 Because they do find things that are indicative of drills.
01:12:43.000 Diamond.
01:12:44.000 Diamond-tipped drills.
01:12:45.000 Because they've cored in a way that had to be insanely high-speed diamond-tipped drills that cored into granite.
01:12:51.000 Stuff that we can barely do today.
01:12:53.000 Barely do, yeah.
01:12:54.000 Yeah.
01:12:54.000 And then it's just the sheer mass.
01:12:56.000 I mean, the amount of stones.
01:12:58.000 2,300,000 stones in the Great Pyramid.
01:13:01.000 And, you know, they're perfectly aligned, a true north, south, east, and west.
01:13:05.000 It's just the whole thing about the quarries being hundreds of miles away, the whole thing is nuts.
01:13:10.000 It's not primitive people.
01:13:12.000 It's super advanced people that did that.
01:13:14.000 And it's super advanced people that lived in a society that's very different than what we think of as existed 10,000 plus years ago.
01:13:21.000 Speaking of super advanced society, what do you think about, have you looked into the Tartarian stuff at all?
01:13:28.000 I was watching a video today about it.
01:13:30.000 Yeah, it's a lot of kooks.
01:13:31.000 I think that's pretty fascinating, though.
01:13:32.000 Yeah, it is fascinating that there was an advanced society, but there's also a lot of kooks.
01:13:38.000 A lot of kooks involved in that.
01:13:39.000 Yeah, in everything, though.
01:13:41.000 And I think maybe some of that's controlled to keep people from looking at some of that stuff.
01:13:46.000 But if you look at the World's Fair of the early 1900s, there's some really weird shit around that.
01:13:51.000 About the structures that they built over them they were supposed to take down in some of these cities.
01:13:55.000 About some of the technologies that were used in some of the architecture.
01:14:00.000 And how some of that architecture isn't standard with many of the other buildings of the same era.
01:14:06.000 What they were doing on top with free energy possibly on some of these buildings.
01:14:10.000 It's pretty wild stuff.
01:14:12.000 So like free energy, like Tesla?
01:14:14.000 They were able to extract energy from the atmosphere, that electricity for everybody.
01:14:22.000 I think they had, and you can maybe bring something up, Jamie, but they had, I believe they had mercury in these, was it copper kind of balls on top of the buildings, and they figured out a way to extract energy just from the air.
01:14:40.000 Really?
01:14:40.000 Yeah.
01:14:41.000 So where'd you read this?
01:14:42.000 Just online.
01:14:45.000 A lot of interesting comments about it.
01:14:47.000 A lot of nuttiness.
01:14:48.000 Marshall, get out of there, buddy.
01:14:50.000 I think there's a shred of truth.
01:14:52.000 He went over there and stole Carl's toy.
01:14:55.000 You little thief.
01:14:56.000 How dare you, buddy.
01:14:57.000 Jamie, are you going to back me up on some of this Tartarian?
01:14:59.000 Yeah, he's going to try to find it.
01:15:01.000 Is there like a really good, reliable source of Tartarian information?
01:15:05.000 I haven't.
01:15:06.000 I mean, wouldn't Graham be one?
01:15:08.000 Has he...
01:15:09.000 I don't know if he's into that.
01:15:10.000 So what is the theory?
01:15:11.000 The theory is that even more recently, there was an advanced stream.
01:15:18.000 The theory is there was an advanced civilization that had certain technologies and that some of the recent history is bullshit.
01:15:25.000 And that the World's Fair built structures over the top of these.
01:15:30.000 Some of the World's Fair stuff can be explained by like Universal Studios style.
01:15:36.000 It was just facades to look, but they were covering certain buildings because people were coming to see stuff.
01:15:43.000 That's just some of it.
01:15:44.000 The QAnon of architecture.
01:15:46.000 Of course.
01:15:47.000 Anytime you want to describe it, just put fucking QAnon.
01:15:50.000 Or MAGA. QAnon or MAGA. Those are great.
01:15:53.000 1908, architect Ernest Flagg completed the Singer Building in Lower Manhattan, a bow arts showstopper made for the Singer Sewing Machine Company from a wide-based A slender 27-story tower rose topped with a mansard roof and a delicate lantern spire.
01:16:12.000 Every inch dripped with sumptuous detail inside and out, vaulted roofs, marble columns with bronze trim, window mullions with spiral...
01:16:20.000 I don't even know what a mullion is.
01:16:21.000 With spiral fluting, the lobby was said to have a celestial radiance, a book written about its construction.
01:16:28.000 For a year, it was the tallest building in the world, 612 feet, and a celebrated landmark for decades after that, but not too much longer, despite its great height.
01:16:36.000 The pencil-thin tower lacked office space in the 1960s.
01:16:40.000 The company sold its ornate headquarters.
01:16:43.000 Demolition proceeded in 1967. It's the tallest building to ever be peacefully demolished.
01:16:48.000 Peacefully?
01:16:48.000 Interesting.
01:16:49.000 By any account, it's a fantastical tale.
01:16:52.000 Once the tallest building in the world, a New York City icon knocked down in just a handful of decades.
01:16:57.000 It's like the part of the bottom here.
01:16:58.000 Adherence to the theory of belief.
01:17:00.000 Yeah.
01:17:02.000 So you need to find something about the top of these buildings, what they had.
01:17:06.000 Tartaria Rises.
01:17:07.000 Tartarian-themed content is produced for YouTube videos that get picked over on Reddit.
01:17:16.000 Our Tartarian architecture sub, which began in 2018 December, has 3,300 members.
01:17:44.000 Oh, I remember Brian.
01:17:46.000 Remember that guy?
01:17:48.000 Recently devoted an episode of his podcast Skeptoid to the Tartaria story, which appears to have emerged in 2016 and 2017. Tartaria story.
01:17:59.000 This is where, yeah.
01:18:00.000 Then they tie in the...
01:18:01.000 He's explaining a lot of the stuff, but...
01:18:04.000 I want to find the energy stuff that he was asking about.
01:18:07.000 Yeah.
01:18:07.000 I just think the architecture is pretty fascinating in some of these...
01:18:11.000 Scroll back up.
01:18:12.000 You went a little too fast there.
01:18:15.000 Yeah, this guy wrote slightly more.
01:18:18.000 I think it was one worldwide civilization, says Joachim Skar, a 26-year-old Norwegian who runs a Tartarian Meltdown YouTube channel.
01:18:27.000 It was all based on unity, oneness, peace, love, and harmony.
01:18:31.000 Okay.
01:18:32.000 Which we don't see in today's society.
01:18:33.000 Well, that is very utopian.
01:18:36.000 Sure, I'd love to believe that that was the case.
01:18:39.000 It's an interesting idea.
01:18:41.000 Well, there was probably some technology that got squashed because competitors didn't want people to use it.
01:18:48.000 I mean, that's the whole theory about the water car.
01:18:51.000 Remember that one guy that created the water-based car and then he got whacked?
01:18:56.000 He yelled out, they poisoned me, ran out of the restaurant and died.
01:18:59.000 Yeah.
01:19:00.000 Yeah.
01:19:01.000 I mean, if I was an oil company and I was evil and some fuckhead came along and developed a car that runs on tap water, I'd be like, what?
01:19:10.000 Wasn't there a guy in Buffalo as well who was part of that shooting who had developed a technology for clean drinking water?
01:19:22.000 He was a part of what shooting?
01:19:24.000 There was a supposed random shooting that happened in Buffalo, I believe.
01:19:30.000 So what technology?
01:19:31.000 And he created some sort of filtration system to provide clean drinking water.
01:19:37.000 Jamie, I need some backing on this.
01:19:40.000 These are so fun.
01:19:43.000 Wacky conspiracies are so fun.
01:19:46.000 They're so fun.
01:19:47.000 Whenever I talk to Sam Tripoli, I just have a big smile on my face.
01:19:51.000 Sam's the master of these things.
01:19:52.000 He's the first one to introduce me to Tartaria.
01:19:54.000 There's too many that, you know, like the water car.
01:20:00.000 The water car's a wild one.
01:20:02.000 Because where's that technology?
01:20:03.000 Like, what happened with that?
01:20:04.000 How come nobody figured that out?
01:20:06.000 But I believe there was one before that, too, like in the early 1900s as well.
01:20:12.000 Well, they did have steam-powered engines.
01:20:14.000 Steam-powered engines have always existed, and essentially those run on water, right?
01:20:21.000 If I want to say they were powered by coal, if I remember correctly.
01:20:26.000 Like, coal, and then the coal boiled the water and the steam.
01:20:30.000 I don't remember, though.
01:20:33.000 If that happens, like there was a documentary that existed in, oh god, it was like the 90s or the early 2000s called Who Killed the Electric Car?
01:20:41.000 Do you remember that?
01:20:42.000 Yeah, well now, hi buddy.
01:20:44.000 Now the electric car is everywhere.
01:20:46.000 So, like some technologies you can't keep down.
01:20:49.000 But if it wasn't for Elon Musk...
01:20:51.000 How long would it take before we figure out an electric car?
01:20:54.000 You know?
01:20:54.000 I mean, Elon was a part of Tesla early on, and Tesla's been around...
01:20:59.000 I mean, I remember the first time I saw a Tesla...
01:21:02.000 God, I feel like it was like early 2000s.
01:21:06.000 I think Bill Maher was probably the first one that I saw driving one of those.
01:21:10.000 He had one that said, Fuck OPEC, I think was his...
01:21:12.000 I think that was his license plate.
01:21:14.000 I think that was Bill.
01:21:15.000 I know there was definitely a Tesla that was around LA. Bill's hilarious.
01:21:19.000 Yeah.
01:21:21.000 Yeah, he's one of the rare liberals that pushes back and gets attacked for it.
01:21:29.000 Pushes back on some of the crazy nonsense.
01:21:31.000 I think he's able to just call things what they are.
01:21:35.000 Or as he sees them at least.
01:21:38.000 We're so in our bubble of identity politics where if you're on one side, you've got to only puppet specific narratives where he's kind of like, no, I don't know if this doesn't make sense to me.
01:21:48.000 Well, at his heart, he's a comic.
01:21:50.000 And comics generally, especially good ones, generally resist these cultural trends toward ideological thinking.
01:21:57.000 Because they're like, wait a minute.
01:21:59.000 That's why, like, the woke comedians are all terrible.
01:22:03.000 Because, like, to adhere to that ideology, like, without any change at all, without any pushback at all, it's preposterous.
01:22:12.000 And to be a comedian, you're always pushing back.
01:22:15.000 You're pushing back on everything, all the societal norms, all the things that are taboo, all the things that are bizarre that you can't discuss.
01:22:21.000 Comedians are always bringing up the things that people are talking about that they don't.
01:22:25.000 Have a seat, buddy.
01:22:26.000 But we need that.
01:22:27.000 We need that.
01:22:28.000 Otherwise...
01:22:29.000 It's the Heoka.
01:22:29.000 It's the sacred clown of society.
01:22:32.000 They're the only ones that are allowed to do that.
01:22:34.000 Between them and the Simpsons.
01:22:36.000 There's a few people that are allowed to publish literature that's in that direction.
01:22:42.000 But for the most part, most people are scared.
01:22:45.000 Most people don't want to lose their jobs.
01:22:46.000 They don't want to be exiled from their communities.
01:22:48.000 They don't want to be out of their friend group.
01:22:50.000 Like you were saying about just the vaccine.
01:22:51.000 Just a simple medical decision.
01:22:55.000 Would alienate a vast...
01:22:57.000 There's a lot of people that I'd lost friends with, the same as you.
01:23:00.000 I'm just not friends with them anymore.
01:23:02.000 They attacked me during the pandemic.
01:23:04.000 And a lot of them I've seen since then, they've apologized and I forgive them, but I'm never going to trust you again if the shit goes sideways, you know?
01:23:11.000 You fold.
01:23:12.000 You fold too quick.
01:23:13.000 You're not a critical thinker.
01:23:14.000 You're not someone who goes, hey, maybe this isn't all what I'm being told.
01:23:18.000 And if you don't know the history of Fauci, and if you don't know the history of the NIH, please read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci.
01:23:27.000 Please read it.
01:23:28.000 Even if you think Robert Kennedy's a kook.
01:23:30.000 Because, by the way, I did.
01:23:32.000 I used to think he was this anti-vax kook because I was – and I apologized to him when I first met him and I had him on the podcast.
01:23:38.000 I told him, I go, I have to be honest with you.
01:23:40.000 When I first heard of you, all I had heard was the narrative, the narrative that they have so successfully spun that he is this anti-science, anti-whatever conspiracy theorist that is the embarrassment of the Kennedy family.
01:23:57.000 And that was the narrative.
01:23:58.000 Oh, this crazy guy.
01:23:59.000 And then all these people that I trust that are brilliant, like one of my friends has a PhD.
01:24:05.000 He's a genius.
01:24:06.000 He's like, you must read this book.
01:24:08.000 I'm like, really?
01:24:09.000 He goes, just please read the book, just for the facts.
01:24:12.000 Because regardless of what you think about that guy, read the book.
01:24:14.000 So I was like two paragraphs in before I called him.
01:24:19.000 I was like, what the fuck?
01:24:20.000 Is this shit real?
01:24:21.000 How much of this is real?
01:24:23.000 Well, he hasn't got sued.
01:24:24.000 Yeah, he hasn't got sued.
01:24:26.000 And then you got to read Dissolving Illusions.
01:24:28.000 Yes, I read that as well.
01:24:30.000 That's a mind blower, right?
01:24:31.000 Wow.
01:24:32.000 That's a mind blower.
01:24:33.000 Yeah.
01:24:34.000 Yeah.
01:24:35.000 Aaron Salter Jr. was killed by a mass shooter because he was working on creating a water-powered car engine.
01:24:40.000 Oh, that's what he was doing.
01:24:41.000 There's a lot of fact check on it.
01:24:42.000 What's very interesting in this is that- It says false.
01:24:45.000 Well, so it says that.
01:24:47.000 Right.
01:24:48.000 But then I was reading through it.
01:24:49.000 It's saying that there's no truth that he was killed because of that work.
01:24:54.000 Which I don't know how you would know that.
01:24:55.000 But he was working on a water-powered car.
01:24:57.000 It's true that Salter was working to power vehicles with water, but there's no evidence that work made him a target in a mass shooting.
01:25:06.000 Could be just a coincidence.
01:25:07.000 Yeah, he was working as a security guard at that grocery store, but there's a video from a couple months before where he's showing his work on a car.
01:25:15.000 This is a racially motivated hate crime though, right?
01:25:19.000 I mean, didn't the guy admit that it was a racially motivated hate crime?
01:25:22.000 Was he black?
01:25:23.000 Was the guy who got killed black as well?
01:25:24.000 Or did this guy kill everybody that was at the grocery store and it was racially motivated?
01:25:29.000 I don't know the details of the shooting off the top.
01:25:36.000 Yeah, again, it's just interesting.
01:25:38.000 It's all interesting.
01:25:39.000 Well, there's also Manchurian candidates.
01:25:42.000 Like, if you go back to the MKUltra days, and you go back to...
01:25:45.000 Well, you think those have stopped?
01:25:46.000 I do not think they have stopped.
01:25:48.000 No.
01:25:48.000 I think they've become much more sophisticated now.
01:25:50.000 11 were black, two were white, of the 13 people that were shot.
01:25:53.000 And his name is Marcus D. Morrison?
01:25:55.000 No, no, no.
01:25:56.000 I was looking up the people to find out who exactly was the one, and it was this guy, Aaron Salter.
01:26:00.000 Aaron Salter.
01:26:00.000 So, get a photograph of Aaron Salter.
01:26:03.000 I think he's a black man.
01:26:05.000 That's who I was talking about with this.
01:26:07.000 Yeah.
01:26:08.000 Right.
01:26:08.000 But, I mean, is there a photo of him where we can find out if he's black or white?
01:26:11.000 No, he is black, yeah.
01:26:12.000 He is black.
01:26:13.000 Okay.
01:26:14.000 Well, I mean, there are...
01:26:17.000 Look, mind control experiments have been documented.
01:26:22.000 They've existed since the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s.
01:26:28.000 MKUltra, a great example of that.
01:26:29.000 I bring it up all the time, but it's an amazing book.
01:26:32.000 Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos, on the Mansett family murders.
01:26:35.000 The Manson family murders were almost absolutely a CIA operation that went sideways.
01:26:43.000 What they did was they got that guy, they got him when he was in prison, Jolly West visited him in prison, and it seems like they coached him on mind control using LSD. It was well known that he would give them LSD and not take it himself,
01:26:59.000 and he was coercing them, convincing them, hypnotizing them, fucking with their mind, and getting them to commit murders.
01:27:06.000 And they kept letting Manson out every time they caught him.
01:27:09.000 And the sheriffs that would let him out would say, it's above my pay grade.
01:27:12.000 They were told to let him out.
01:27:14.000 So he had violated parole multiple times, he had been connected to murders, and they still kept letting him out.
01:27:20.000 They wanted him out there because that was how they were going to discredit the anti-war movement.
01:27:24.000 There's the same thing that they did with the sweeping psychedelics acts of 1970. The reason why they did it wasn't because psychedelics were a real problem.
01:27:30.000 It was because it was a great way to target civil rights activists.
01:27:33.000 It was a great way to target the Black Panthers.
01:27:35.000 It was a great way to target any anti-war people because those people were all involved with psychedelic drugs.
01:27:40.000 So you would cut their supply off, arrest the people that were involved in it, find them, get them, prosecute them.
01:27:47.000 We're good to go.
01:28:06.000 And that's real.
01:28:07.000 So if we know that they did that, they operated the Haight-Ashbury Clinic in the 1960s, which, by the way, my wife's mom used to go to, that you met today?
01:28:18.000 She was a hippie in the 1960s.
01:28:21.000 I knew I liked her.
01:28:22.000 And she lived in Haight-Ashbury, and she used to go to the Haight-Ashbury Clinic, which was run by the CIA. Wow.
01:28:27.000 They fucking ran a clinic.
01:28:29.000 They ran a free clinic.
01:28:31.000 And Manson was a regular visitor to that place.
01:28:34.000 And these are the same people that also ran Operation Midnight Climax, where they ran brothels, and they would give the Johns, they would come in to mingle with the prostitutes, they'd give them LSD and study them through two-way mirrors.
01:28:47.000 This is our government.
01:28:49.000 Our government was like running all kinds of wild studies on human beings and how to manipulate them and how to use psychedelic drugs, specifically LSD, to influence their mind.
01:29:00.000 Also, Ted Kaczynski.
01:29:02.000 Ted Kaczynski was a part of that program that was out of Harvard.
01:29:05.000 He was one of those people that got dosed up with LSD and they did all sorts of horrific psychological tests on him and studies and all these weird experiments where they would humiliate him and torture him.
01:29:17.000 Thank you.
01:29:18.000 And then the guy went on to decide that technology was going to be the end of mankind, and he needed to kill all the people that were creating technology.
01:29:25.000 Meanwhile, he's probably right.
01:29:27.000 He was probably right.
01:29:28.000 On acid, he probably saw where all this technology is going.
01:29:32.000 Oh my god, if we keep going, this would be the end of the human race.
01:29:35.000 It'll take us over, and it'll be our demise, and I have to stop this.
01:29:39.000 You know, he's obviously fucking insane, but also, obviously, a part of a mind control experiment gone terribly wrong, or terribly right.
01:29:48.000 Yeah, it started out of, you know, what they did in Operation Paperclip.
01:29:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:29:54.000 When they figured out what the hell they were doing over there.
01:29:57.000 Yeah.
01:29:58.000 And gave them, a lot of them, government jobs, high-paying jobs.
01:30:03.000 Cleaned ahead of NASA. Yeah, turning into the CIA. Yeah.
01:30:07.000 Alan Dulles working his backdoor stuff with Prescott Bush into the CIA. Yeah.
01:30:15.000 Getting fired by JFK. Very interesting connections.
01:30:18.000 Yeah.
01:30:18.000 All the way down.
01:30:19.000 Yeah.
01:30:21.000 There's a dark history, a really dark history to these organizations of what they've done and the amount of manipulation that they were successful at.
01:30:29.000 It's pretty wild stuff.
01:30:31.000 And still do.
01:30:32.000 And have to still be doing it.
01:30:34.000 Why would they abandon something that's so successful?
01:30:37.000 After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby's psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics.
01:30:45.000 That's Jolly West.
01:30:47.000 Louis Jolly West.
01:30:49.000 A figure equally infamous for allegedly killing an elephant with LSD and for his work in MKUltra.
01:30:56.000 The Central Intelligence Agency's infamous interrogation hypnosis and mind control program.
01:31:01.000 An analysis of available documents from the CIA's declassified archives and Yeah, he went to visit Jack Ruby in the hospital,
01:31:19.000 and Jack Ruby...
01:31:20.000 Freaked out and was saying that they were killing Jews and Satan was here and he was hiding under the bed like he went nuts.
01:31:28.000 And there was no indication that before that meeting that he was ever in some sort of a fragile psychic state or some sort of a fragile mental condition where he would just go nuts like that.
01:31:40.000 Like this was just all after Jolly West visited him.
01:31:44.000 Of course Jolly West dosed him up.
01:31:46.000 Of course.
01:31:47.000 Why wouldn't...
01:31:48.000 I mean, how did they even convince him to go shoot Lee Harvey Oswald like that?
01:31:52.000 And how did no one check people for guns?
01:31:55.000 How'd they wheel out this guy who's probably the most important defendant in the history of...
01:32:02.000 Well, they changed the formation walking out.
01:32:05.000 And they probably allowed him to enter through the loading dock because he was juiced in with some of the people and the, you know...
01:32:12.000 We have that photo out here, too.
01:32:13.000 Yep.
01:32:14.000 It's in the hallway.
01:32:15.000 After him getting shot?
01:32:16.000 Yeah.
01:32:16.000 You walk in, there's Jack Ruby getting shot.
01:32:18.000 Or Lee Oswald getting shot by Jack Ruby.
01:32:21.000 Well, that, I mean, that whole thing is wild.
01:32:25.000 I mean, it just goes so fucking deep.
01:32:28.000 It goes so deep.
01:32:28.000 And you're seeing it right now with Trump.
01:32:31.000 Why the fuck haven't they released the files?
01:32:33.000 Why haven't they released any of the files?
01:32:35.000 Why is all the COVID information kept for 75 years?
01:32:38.000 Why is that stuff locked up forever?
01:32:41.000 What?
01:32:42.000 Why does nobody give a fuck about that?
01:32:44.000 It's not that they don't give a fuck because there's too much.
01:32:46.000 There's too much to pay attention to.
01:32:48.000 There's climate change.
01:32:49.000 There's UFOs.
01:32:50.000 There's Ukraine.
01:32:51.000 There's Hamas.
01:32:52.000 There's terrorist cells.
01:32:53.000 There's an open border.
01:32:54.000 We just sent some more money, I think.
01:32:55.000 That's what it is.
01:32:56.000 To Ukraine.
01:32:57.000 Yeah.
01:32:58.000 Meanwhile, this border bill that they're trying to pass, 80% of the money does not go to the border.
01:33:04.000 Yeah.
01:33:07.000 What a great idea, guys.
01:33:09.000 It's not like there's a crisis of people coming in.
01:33:11.000 We have no idea who these people are.
01:33:12.000 What is the whole bullshit about wanting to cut the fucking fence?
01:33:18.000 I don't know!
01:33:19.000 And Abbott's sending the...
01:33:21.000 I don't know, but here's some more bullshit.
01:33:24.000 A lot of this, it seems like it's manufactured on both sides.
01:33:28.000 Because there was a gentleman who went down to the border and said, all y'all talking about how there's a fucking fight about the holes in the border, let me show you how many holes in the border there are.
01:33:38.000 Like, what they're talking about is blocking this one thing.
01:33:40.000 You can go a half a mile this way and there's an open door.
01:33:43.000 Half a mile this way, there's another open door.
01:33:45.000 He's like, it's wide open.
01:33:46.000 All they would have to do is go further down that way.
01:33:50.000 So it's just a fucking talking point just to sting the one side.
01:33:53.000 I would imagine that it is a great point of contention that is used as a political volleyball.
01:34:02.000 And they're just knocking it over the fence back and forth towards each other.
01:34:05.000 But the real problem is like...
01:34:07.000 Wasn't there a guy that's on a terrorist watch list that they had that said, you'll know who I am?
01:34:12.000 Yeah.
01:34:12.000 Not just one.
01:34:13.000 That was one guy.
01:34:14.000 But they've caught guys.
01:34:15.000 They've caught guys that have come through.
01:34:18.000 And there's a lot of those of age, military age individuals coming off.
01:34:23.000 You can dismiss some of that because those are the people that they send because those are the young people that can get jobs, that can send money back home to people that are deeply impoverished.
01:34:32.000 Yeah.
01:34:33.000 Look, I get it, man, and I think you probably are the same way.
01:34:36.000 If you were living in Guatemala on a dirt floor and they told you that if you go to America, they give you free food and they put you up at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City.
01:34:43.000 Give you a $1,000 credit card.
01:34:45.000 And if you beat up cops, they let you go.
01:34:49.000 They beat the shit out of two cops!
01:34:51.000 And no bail.
01:34:52.000 Just right out.
01:34:53.000 And you see them walking out?
01:34:54.000 Yeah.
01:34:54.000 Giving the two bucks.
01:34:55.000 Yeah.
01:34:56.000 Giving the double fingers to the camera.
01:34:57.000 Yeah.
01:34:58.000 The whole thing is wild.
01:34:59.000 And it's almost like there's an engineered decision.
01:35:03.000 Like it's a decision to destroy so much of what makes America great.
01:35:09.000 Well, there's one individual who's worked pretty damn hard at that.
01:35:13.000 George Soros.
01:35:14.000 Oh, yeah.
01:35:15.000 He's a fascinating character.
01:35:17.000 Fascinating.
01:35:17.000 He spent millions of dollars.
01:35:19.000 Billions.
01:35:19.000 Billions of dollars.
01:35:20.000 Billions of dollars.
01:35:21.000 On local elections.
01:35:22.000 Yeah.
01:35:23.000 On local DAs, including the DA in Austin.
01:35:26.000 Yeah.
01:35:27.000 I mean, California, that's a big problem.
01:35:29.000 People are, you know, theft, crazy theft, and getting let out the same day.
01:35:33.000 They commend crimes, getting let out.
01:35:35.000 There's no prosecution.
01:35:36.000 There's no nothing.
01:35:38.000 Yeah, and it seems to be a decision, a conscious decision to destroy things.
01:35:42.000 And I don't know what the end game is.
01:35:45.000 I don't know what they're trying to do.
01:35:46.000 Well, destabilization?
01:35:48.000 Yeah, I would imagine.
01:35:50.000 I think that's like a deep conspiracy about the deep state and the cabal and people pulling the strings.
01:35:55.000 Yeah.
01:35:56.000 But I think that's why if there is a way that RFK could get elected, to me that's where the hope starts, that things can change and get better.
01:36:07.000 But is it even possible, is there a real path for an independent to become the president?
01:36:14.000 Because the Trumpers are not going to vote for RFK. The Trumpers are going to vote for Trump.
01:36:19.000 And that's a giant percentage of the population that is not really hip to what RFK is talking about.
01:36:24.000 And they like him over Biden, but they don't like him over Trump.
01:36:27.000 And Trump is their man.
01:36:29.000 Trump is the guy that's been in there before.
01:36:30.000 He understands how it works.
01:36:32.000 When you see what he was doing in terms of the economy was doing much better, we weren't involved in all these world conflicts.
01:36:40.000 You know, whether you like him, like Chamath from Facebook, what was this guy's name?
01:36:45.000 How do you say his name again?
01:36:48.000 Brilliant guy who was doing this thing saying, the right message but the wrong messenger.
01:36:52.000 Like Trump's policies were good, but coming from him, nobody wanted to listen to it.
01:36:57.000 But the things that he was talking about with deregulation, things he was talking about in terms of dealing with international conflicts and he was right.
01:37:06.000 He was right about how to handle ISIS. He was right about a lot of these things.
01:37:10.000 But the people that believe in him, they're not going to vote for anybody else.
01:37:14.000 They're all in on Trump.
01:37:16.000 Yeah, but what if it's Weekend at Bernie's, Nikki Haley, and...
01:37:20.000 RFK Jr. Well, if that happens, RFK's got a chance.
01:37:24.000 If that happens.
01:37:25.000 But there's a lot of dummies out there that they think that Nikki Haley's the solution.
01:37:29.000 No.
01:37:30.000 And she's not...
01:37:30.000 No, there are a lot.
01:37:31.000 And I've seen a lot of, like, left-wing pundits that are talking up Nikki Haley.
01:37:36.000 Well, they don't want Trump.
01:37:37.000 No, they don't want Trump, but also...
01:37:38.000 They went to New Hampshire and voted in the primary to...
01:37:41.000 Yeah.
01:37:42.000 Yeah.
01:37:43.000 It's all fucking wild, man.
01:37:45.000 It's just...
01:37:45.000 Politics is...
01:37:46.000 It's like you said.
01:37:46.000 I mean, unless you take the money out...
01:37:48.000 Yeah.
01:37:49.000 We're fucked.
01:37:49.000 It's a two-party system.
01:37:51.000 Yeah.
01:37:51.000 It's going to be the same bullshit.
01:37:53.000 You can't...
01:37:54.000 I don't know why...
01:37:55.000 Tell me why Election Day isn't a national holiday.
01:37:58.000 Mm-hmm.
01:37:59.000 And why is it racist to say you have to have some form of identification?
01:38:05.000 Yeah.
01:38:06.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:38:07.000 Why can't you have a day?
01:38:08.000 It's a fucking national holiday.
01:38:10.000 Everybody go vote.
01:38:11.000 We're going to tally it up on the same day.
01:38:13.000 We have some faith in the voting machines.
01:38:17.000 Unless you're a veteran overseas, there's no mail-in ballots.
01:38:21.000 Unless you're bedridden to some extent...
01:38:26.000 Jamie, I'm going to send you something that's hilarious.
01:38:29.000 I love memes.
01:38:30.000 They're the best.
01:38:31.000 Memes are my favorite thing of all time.
01:38:33.000 But this one, I saw this one, it made me laugh so hard.
01:38:35.000 Was it from Tom?
01:38:36.000 No, no, no.
01:38:37.000 This one wasn't from Dom.
01:38:38.000 This one's just randomly from the internet, but it's so perfect.
01:38:42.000 Don't let Trump cheat.
01:38:44.000 Demand voter ID and paper ballots.
01:38:51.000 Don't let Trump cheat.
01:38:53.000 It's so funny.
01:38:54.000 The internet is so funny.
01:38:56.000 They're so funny.
01:38:57.000 It's undefeated.
01:38:58.000 Oh my god, they're so good.
01:38:59.000 It is undefeated.
01:38:59.000 They're so good.
01:39:00.000 We need them.
01:39:01.000 God damn it, we need them.
01:39:03.000 Thank god they exist.
01:39:04.000 Thank god that they weren't able to fucking put a stop to that.
01:39:08.000 They weren't able to put a stop to people just talking shit and posting and doing whatever they want.
01:39:13.000 They tried.
01:39:14.000 They tried.
01:39:14.000 Yeah.
01:39:15.000 I don't think they ever saw this coming though.
01:39:18.000 I think when they first rolled out the internet in the late 80s, early 90s, I think they had no fucking idea what this was gonna be.
01:39:24.000 If they did, they would've stopped it right away.
01:39:26.000 Don't you think it's interesting when you look back at the idea of an Atlantis society, Atlantean society, or even this silliness about the Tartarian.
01:39:37.000 There was a point where there wasn't technology.
01:39:41.000 And as it starts to filter in, you have decisions to be made on which direction to go.
01:39:45.000 And we seemed to take all of our technology into the form of business and profits.
01:39:53.000 What about a society that would take it in a different direction?
01:39:56.000 You know, I think a lot about Tesla, right?
01:39:59.000 And the inventions that he had and his idea about a society.
01:40:04.000 And there's been some interesting comments about the type of society we would live in had some of his inventions.
01:40:11.000 And you know the rivalry between him and Edison.
01:40:14.000 But like a society that isn't driven strictly on profits and advancement.
01:40:20.000 Right.
01:40:21.000 The problem is innovation requires dedication and ambition, and oftentimes dedication and ambition is driven by profits.
01:40:31.000 I understand.
01:40:32.000 Competition has always been a part of things, but how many times in the history of this world, because as Graham talks about, there could be hundreds of thousands of years in multi Younger Dryas events.
01:40:46.000 How many times did we get to this point?
01:40:50.000 Was there other societies that weren't strictly motivated by profits and advancement and competition in the form of division that actually figured the shit out?
01:41:02.000 Well, if you had a time machine, if you could exist in like a bulletproof sphere that was invisible to all the people around you and just observe a time, I would want to observe Egypt in its prime.
01:41:16.000 Same.
01:41:17.000 I just would go, what were you guys doing?
01:41:20.000 What were they doing?
01:41:21.000 Like, what was it like?
01:41:22.000 I need one of these jellyfish UAPs to go back.
01:41:27.000 That one is the least interesting to me.
01:41:30.000 How come?
01:41:31.000 I just don't...
01:41:31.000 I'm not interested in it.
01:41:33.000 It just doesn't seem like anything.
01:41:35.000 It's flying around.
01:41:35.000 It just goes in the water, comes out of the water.
01:41:37.000 Like, okay.
01:41:38.000 Like, so what?
01:41:39.000 Which ones do you like?
01:41:41.000 I like the ones that move off at insane rates of speed.
01:41:45.000 And that, like, the Tic Tac one.
01:41:46.000 The Tic Tac one, I was watching this documentary on it the other day, and they were saying that the footage was released because it wasn't supposed to be released.
01:41:56.000 Someone recorded it.
01:41:57.000 Someone recorded the FLIR footage.
01:41:59.000 Off of it, yeah.
01:42:00.000 Yeah, and someone released it.
01:42:02.000 And if it wasn't for that video footage that people have tried to debunk and they've tried to come up...
01:42:07.000 Whatever the fuck that thing is, it's showing no visible means of propulsion.
01:42:10.000 It moves off at an insane rate of speed.
01:42:12.000 It's documented on radar.
01:42:13.000 It's documented by eyewitness accounts from multiple jets.
01:42:17.000 It's documented by the instrumentation that's in the jets.
01:42:22.000 They saw this thing.
01:42:24.000 They know that this thing is operating in some way that we have no idea how to do that using conventional propulsion methods.
01:42:32.000 And they said that it's a much longer video.
01:42:34.000 What they got was only a small piece of it and that there's actually much more of it that the government has.
01:42:40.000 Whatever the fuck that thing is, That, to me, those are the kind of UFOs I'm fascinated by.
01:42:46.000 Something that can go from above 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet in less than a second.
01:42:52.000 Like, what is that?
01:42:53.000 What is that?
01:42:53.000 Is that ours?
01:42:55.000 Is that why it's always near military bases?
01:42:58.000 Is that why it's over in San Diego, off the coast of the Nimitz, where the Nimitz was at?
01:43:03.000 Is that why it's over in the East Coast, where they have restricted airspace?
01:43:07.000 Is that why these things are always in these places?
01:43:10.000 Is it ours?
01:43:11.000 I mean, if I had some sort of a super sophisticated drone technology that is above and beyond what we think of in terms of what's technologically available today, I would say it's UFOs too.
01:43:26.000 I would say, you know, out of this world craft.
01:43:30.000 Yeah.
01:43:31.000 Yeah, but some of that is reverse-engineered stuff.
01:43:35.000 It could be.
01:43:36.000 Right?
01:43:37.000 It could be.
01:43:38.000 Or there could be a branch of physics.
01:43:41.000 This is what Eric Weinstein has theorized.
01:43:43.000 And the way he talks about it, it's quite brilliant.
01:43:45.000 And he talks about this one particular college in New York, one particular university that has an insane physics department.
01:43:51.000 And it's also connected to this hedge fund that does like Bernie Madoff numbers that don't seem to make sense.
01:43:58.000 So that would be a great way to get money for these things and that you have this insane physics department.
01:44:04.000 So you have these people.
01:44:06.000 That's one of the things that Diana Posalka talked about in her book about the people that are documented that are involved in these crash retrieval programs and supposedly involved in these back engineering programs.
01:44:18.000 The amount of secrecy and their adherence to secrecy is spectacular.
01:44:23.000 And this idea that people can't keep secrets, what the fuck they can't?
01:44:26.000 People can keep secrets.
01:44:28.000 What do you think is the ultimate reason for that?
01:44:31.000 Because there's a lot of ideas on why they can't release it.
01:44:34.000 Because like Roswell, and there's been a number of different types of Roswells, whether that was...
01:44:39.000 ETs that we interacted with, whether there's some sort of alliance between other, you know, alien extraterrestrial racism.
01:44:48.000 What do you think is the major fear around not releasing that?
01:44:51.000 Well, I think there's a bunch of fears.
01:44:53.000 First of all, someone has got to be held responsible for misallocation of funds.
01:44:59.000 So let's say that you have defense spending, you have some private company, which is – by the way, which they all think it's private companies that are involved in – defense companies that are involved in this research.
01:45:12.000 Like the Lockheed.
01:45:13.000 Yeah, which are much better at keeping secrets than the government is.
01:45:18.000 And that – If you have a misallocation of funds and you've lied to Congress, like someone goes to jail for that.
01:45:28.000 We're talking about laundering essentially.
01:45:31.000 Could be hundreds of millions if not billions and billions of dollars over decades.
01:45:37.000 So who made these decisions?
01:45:38.000 Did they make the decision?
01:45:39.000 Did Congress not know about it?
01:45:41.000 So if they didn't know about it, they're going to want to know about it.
01:45:44.000 And if they find out that you've been lying to them all this time, well, guess what?
01:45:46.000 You're going to jail.
01:45:48.000 So who's going to jail?
01:45:49.000 Who misallocated funds?
01:45:51.000 Where did the funds go?
01:45:52.000 Was any of that funds filtered?
01:45:54.000 Did anybody get wildly rich during this time?
01:45:57.000 Was there some skimming like we think is going on in Ukraine?
01:46:01.000 When you have a shitload of money- But who went to jail when Rumsfeld said on September 10th of 2001 there's $2 trillion missing?
01:46:08.000 Yeah.
01:46:09.000 Unaccounted for?
01:46:10.000 Nobody.
01:46:10.000 Well, they couldn't account for, right?
01:46:13.000 That's an interesting way of saying it.
01:46:14.000 Yeah.
01:46:15.000 Yeah.
01:46:15.000 Nobody.
01:46:16.000 Yeah.
01:46:16.000 Well, also, the Pentagon fails its audit every year.
01:46:21.000 Yeah.
01:46:23.000 It's amazing.
01:46:23.000 It's crazy.
01:46:24.000 But they just hired all those IRS agents to go after everybody.
01:46:27.000 Anybody who spends more than 300 bucks.
01:46:29.000 Yeah.
01:46:30.000 I mean, there's also conversations around how it can fuck with religion and the ideologies that so many people have and the belief systems.
01:46:45.000 If there's You know, say there is extraterrestrial life.
01:46:49.000 And, you know, how many planets in the galaxy have we found now that could sustain life even in a close proximity to us?
01:46:58.000 Yeah, quite a few.
01:46:59.000 Yeah.
01:46:59.000 But Diana Posolka's work, what they're talking about is not even necessarily something from another planet.
01:47:05.000 Perhaps something from another planet.
01:47:07.000 But maybe something.
01:47:08.000 No, maybe something that's from another dimension.
01:47:11.000 Maybe something that's hyper-advanced that has the ability to access us.
01:47:17.000 And can come and go as it pleases, can go in and out.
01:47:21.000 So it's basically here all the time.
01:47:23.000 We just can't see it because it's multidimensional.
01:47:24.000 It's fifth dimension.
01:47:26.000 It's something.
01:47:27.000 And then also, I mean, again, this is what Bob Lazar talked about when he was on the show.
01:47:32.000 He said, if you had brought a nuclear reactor to, you know, the 1400s and showed it to people, it'd be indistinguishable from magic.
01:47:40.000 They'd be like, what the fuck is that?
01:47:42.000 This is sorcery.
01:47:43.000 This is crazy.
01:47:44.000 But now it's just normal.
01:47:46.000 As time goes on, a million years, two million years from now, if somehow or another there's intelligent beings that have continued this evolution of technology and innovation, they're going to get to a place where it's – they have the ability to do things that are unfathomable.
01:48:02.000 You can't even imagine it.
01:48:03.000 Your mind is not capable of it because you don't have a point of reference.
01:48:06.000 You don't have context.
01:48:07.000 There's not preexisting technology that leads you to make a logical bridge towards this potential.
01:48:14.000 It's not the words.
01:48:16.000 They talk about some of the stories in the ancient texts and the Bible.
01:48:20.000 They don't have the words to explain what a spaceship is.
01:48:23.000 No, it's like a chariot in the sky.
01:48:25.000 Ezekiel.
01:48:27.000 Pull up the description that Ezekiel had of the wheel within a wheel.
01:48:32.000 My God, it sounds like a UFO. I would like to talk to Tucker Carlson about this.
01:48:40.000 Tucker Carlson has this belief too.
01:48:41.000 He just talked to people about this and he thinks...
01:48:45.000 He thinks that it's always been here and that it's a part of existence and that this is a part of these biblical stories of angels and devils and that's what they're really talking about.
01:48:56.000 They're talking about these interdimensional beings and the darkest, the darkest theory is one that Lazar talked about.
01:49:04.000 He said something that they talked to him about when he was working on these back-engineered crafts.
01:49:09.000 Is that what they use us as is vessels, that we are souls.
01:49:15.000 We hold souls.
01:49:18.000 And that this is essentially a farm.
01:49:20.000 And this is how they develop souls through us.
01:49:24.000 And that what our soul is, I mean if you had to imagine, what our soul is, is some force, something that they farm here with us.
01:49:36.000 When we die, it transcends and becomes whatever they are in whatever space they exist in.
01:49:43.000 That's what Bob said?
01:49:44.000 This is, he's talking about it, that this is one of the crazier stories that has to do with religion that's attached to the UFO phenomenon.
01:49:51.000 And...
01:49:52.000 And Tucker's talked about the demonic...
01:49:55.000 Yeah.
01:49:55.000 What did Diana say?
01:49:56.000 Well, this is what some of these people think, is that these things have always been here, and they are a part of our history.
01:50:04.000 And that this idea that they're coming here on these metal crafts from another planet is not necessarily the whole picture.
01:50:10.000 That it might be some of that.
01:50:13.000 Because we do that.
01:50:14.000 Like we send drones to Mars.
01:50:16.000 If we get to the point where we have artificial intelligence or I should say created intelligence, digital intelligence that exists in some sort of a physical form that we can use in a physical craft that doesn't have the biological limitations of tissue, need oxygen and all the things that would prevent us from being able to travel in deep space.
01:50:35.000 You could send this thing out into the cosmos and this thing behaves like a life form.
01:50:41.000 I mean, we're essentially on our way to doing that.
01:50:43.000 We have a rover that's moving around on Mars right now as we speak.
01:50:46.000 So what is Ezekiel's Okay.
01:50:52.000 I looked.
01:50:53.000 I saw an immense dust storm coming from the north, an immense cloud with lightning flashing from it, a huge ball of fire glowing like bronze.
01:51:01.000 Within the fire were what looked like four creatures, vibrant with life.
01:51:06.000 Each had the form of a human being, but each also had four faces and four wings.
01:51:11.000 Their legs were sturdy and straight as columns, but their feet were hooved, Like those of a calf, sparkled with the fire like burnished bronze.
01:51:22.000 On all four sides, under their wings, they had human hands.
01:51:26.000 All four had both faces and wings, with the wings touching one another.
01:51:30.000 They had neither one way nor the other.
01:51:32.000 They went straight forward.
01:51:34.000 They turned neither one way nor the other.
01:51:35.000 They went straight forward.
01:51:36.000 Their faces looked like this, in front a human face.
01:51:40.000 On the right side, the face of a lion.
01:51:42.000 On the left, the face of an ox.
01:51:46.000 We're good to go.
01:51:52.000 We're good to go.
01:52:00.000 The four creatures looked like blazing fire or like fiery torches.
01:52:04.000 Tongues of fire shot back and forth between the creatures.
01:52:08.000 And out of the fire, bolts of lightning.
01:52:10.000 The creatures flashed back and forth like strikes of lightning.
01:52:13.000 As I watched the four creatures, I saw something that looked like a wheel on the ground beside each of the four-faced creatures.
01:52:20.000 This is what the wheels looked like.
01:52:22.000 They were identical wheels, sparkling like diamonds in the sun.
01:52:25.000 They looked like they were wheels within wheels, like a gyroscope.
01:52:30.000 I mean, that sounds like if you're living thousands of years ago, and by the way, you tell this story forever before it ever gets written down.
01:52:39.000 I mean, there's a thousand years of oral tradition of speaking these stories before these things get written down.
01:52:46.000 They went in any one of four directions they faced, but straight, not veering off.
01:52:52.000 The rims were immense, circled with eyes.
01:52:54.000 When the living creatures went, the wheels went.
01:52:57.000 When the living creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off.
01:53:01.000 Wherever the spirit went, they went, the wheels sticking right with them.
01:53:05.000 For the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
01:53:08.000 When the creatures went, the wheels went.
01:53:10.000 When the creatures stopped, the wheels stopped.
01:53:12.000 When the creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off.
01:53:15.000 Because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
01:53:18.000 One of the things that Lazar had said, there's no instrumentation inside these things.
01:53:24.000 They're piloting them with their minds.
01:53:28.000 Well, think about what they're saying.
01:53:30.000 I mean, what are you saying?
01:53:31.000 When the creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off.
01:53:33.000 Because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
01:54:01.000 I mean, goddamn, man.
01:54:03.000 That sounds like...
01:54:05.000 That's a UFO. Yeah, it sounds like a UFO. UAP. That sounds like some fucking insane vision that's beyond comprehension that happens to people that live in a prehistoric civilization.
01:54:15.000 That's probably how you would describe it.
01:54:17.000 And especially if you're telling this story over and over again, it's passed down generation to generation and someone writes it down in ancient Hebrew or in Aramaic and then it has to get translated into Latin and into Greek and then eventually to English.
01:54:30.000 I mean, the whole thing is nuts.
01:54:33.000 And the Vimanas, the ancient Hindu texts that talk about them.
01:54:37.000 And the hieroglyphs too.
01:54:38.000 Yeah.
01:54:39.000 There's a ton of examples of that.
01:54:42.000 Yeah, it's likely that they've always been here.
01:54:45.000 And it might be connected somehow or another to our minds.
01:54:49.000 The mind which produces psychedelic chemicals might also be a gateway to other dimensions.
01:54:55.000 Whatever you experience when you experience dimethyltryptamine, which we know is produced by the brain, which is the key component of ayahuasca, you experience entities.
01:55:04.000 You experience exactly what they're talking about there.
01:55:06.000 Yeah.
01:55:07.000 So what is that?
01:55:08.000 Do we just dismiss that as hallucination?
01:55:11.000 I think we legalize it and promote it and encourage people to do it.
01:55:14.000 And then the aliens come.
01:55:15.000 And then we realize they've been here all along.
01:55:18.000 I think they've probably been here all along.
01:55:19.000 I think they're probably here right now.
01:55:20.000 They're just not here, here.
01:55:21.000 Just not here, here.
01:55:23.000 Yeah.
01:55:23.000 But they're part of this.
01:55:24.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:55:25.000 We just have a very limited ability to see.
01:55:27.000 Do you think they're benevolent?
01:55:29.000 Probably not.
01:55:30.000 No.
01:55:31.000 No, I don't think so.
01:55:32.000 I think progress requires a lot of chaos.
01:55:37.000 I think human beings, in particular, innovative, creative creatures, have to have something to battle against to become their better selves.
01:55:46.000 We find that in human beings.
01:55:48.000 I think it's probably a universal rule as far as how progress Gets perpetrated.
01:55:56.000 It probably gets created through battle.
01:55:59.000 And not just battle like war.
01:56:01.000 I mean battle like conflict, like competition.
01:56:05.000 It seems to be that's the key driver of innovation in our world is this sort of competition with each other, which is a form of conflict in a lot of ways.
01:56:14.000 You're battling the other competitors to see who can push each other the furthest and get the greatest discovery quickest.
01:56:22.000 There's got to be some benevolent races, though, if there's multiple races of...
01:56:26.000 Perhaps benevolence is just like our desire for ultimate peace.
01:56:31.000 We have this ridiculous idea that you can have good with no evil.
01:56:37.000 And there's no real evidence for that.
01:56:39.000 I agree.
01:56:40.000 There's no real evidence as far as human society.
01:56:43.000 There's been utopian groups of people that have figured it out for short periods of time.
01:56:47.000 But, you know, there's circumstances that lead to utopian groups of primates.
01:56:51.000 You know, Robert Sapolsky discovered this group of orangutans that had—excuse me—baboons that had been eating out of garbage that was in a resort.
01:57:03.000 And the alpha males, the most vicious, got to eat the food first.
01:57:07.000 Well, this food was poisoned.
01:57:07.000 Then they wiped them out, right, or something?
01:57:08.000 Yeah, they were poisoned.
01:57:09.000 So the only ones that survived were the beta males.
01:57:12.000 And the beta males created this really kind of peaceful society, and it lasted for a long time.
01:57:16.000 So we gotta wipe out the alpha males.
01:57:18.000 The meek will inherit the earth.
01:57:20.000 I mean, that might be with all this fucking LBGTIQA, but that's not true necessarily because they're not peaceful.
01:57:28.000 Like Antifa and all those people, they're some of the most violent counterculture groups that we've ever seen.
01:57:34.000 Yeah, I don't know about the meek inherent in the earth.
01:57:36.000 I think that might be taken quite slightly out of context.
01:57:39.000 But it's sort of like kind of what's going on with the creators of technology.
01:57:43.000 I mean, think about who's controlling the narrative in this world.
01:57:46.000 The narrative is essentially being controlled other than by X, you know, because Elon has essentially thrown a monkey wrench into the gears of wherever all this stuff was going.
01:57:54.000 It was all adhering to a very specific ideology.
01:57:57.000 There was no real, like, No real prevalent right-wing online technological creation like a Google or a Facebook or a YouTube or a Twitter or all these things,
01:58:13.000 Instagram, all these things are controlled by leftists, every single one of them.
01:58:18.000 And they tend to be the most feminized, the least masculine, the least at least outwardly aggressive.
01:58:25.000 You know, they promote things like toxic masculinity and they demonize what's, you know, characteristics of masculine behavior.
01:58:37.000 That's...
01:58:38.000 They're the meek.
01:58:41.000 Yeah, I mean, they're kind of the meek, right?
01:58:42.000 They're the nerds.
01:58:43.000 And the nerds are the ones who create this kind of technology, and they're the ones that are in control of this technology.
01:58:48.000 It's not sustainable.
01:58:50.000 Well, it's definitely not, because China's not that way.
01:58:53.000 And they're ruthless.
01:58:54.000 And if they get control of the same type of technology, we will see the same sort of results that they have in their society, which is a centralized digital currency.
01:59:03.000 Social credit score.
01:59:04.000 Exactly.
01:59:05.000 And then we're fucked.
01:59:08.000 How do you feel talking about all this stuff, being this prominent public figure who's a revered athlete?
01:59:17.000 Less revered now.
01:59:18.000 Well, not really.
01:59:19.000 Not when you kick ass.
01:59:20.000 They let all that shit go.
01:59:21.000 All that COVID shit they let go as soon as you got back on the field.
01:59:24.000 I was COVID MVP. I was a two-time MVP during COVID. Exactly.
01:59:26.000 They had to shut the fuck up when it comes down to the performance.
01:59:30.000 And then over time, I think a lot of people that demonized you, especially the fans, they realized you were right.
01:59:35.000 Yeah.
01:59:36.000 Well, I don't think all of them will entirely admit that.
01:59:39.000 Right.
01:59:40.000 In the back of their head, they know you weren't nearly as nutty as they thought you were.
01:59:44.000 Yeah.
01:59:45.000 I mean, I think as more research comes out, there's more papers published in very reputable scientific publications that talk about all the things that I was kind of stopping for and talking about.
01:59:58.000 I think in the end, you're on a decision.
02:00:02.000 You stand for something.
02:00:04.000 You stand courageously for what you believe in.
02:00:07.000 Or the opposite side of that is either saying nothing or being a coward.
02:00:13.000 And I wasn't willing to do that.
02:00:16.000 Now, say whatever you want about the way I went about doing it.
02:00:21.000 In the end, I made a decision that was best for me.
02:00:23.000 And I'm going to continue talking about this stuff because it's important to me.
02:00:27.000 And I don't want the memories to be lost.
02:00:32.000 I don't want what I went through to get brushed over.
02:00:37.000 And also, I don't give a fuck.
02:00:39.000 You know, I've been able to make a ton of money playing a sport that I'm really good at, and I'm thankful for that.
02:00:45.000 I have a platform.
02:00:47.000 Some people want you to just shut up and throw a football, and that's fine.
02:00:52.000 But I think there has to be certain voices of reason, and many people say I'm an idiot.
02:00:57.000 I don't have...
02:00:57.000 I'm not smart.
02:00:58.000 I got attacked for my intelligence levels, which is an interesting angle to attack me on.
02:01:02.000 There's a lot of things you can say about me, but that's an interesting angle to go.
02:01:07.000 But in the end, I believe that what I did and what I stand for is a tough position to be in.
02:01:16.000 But I think it's an important responsibility to continue to speak up and use my voice to give other people the permission to stand up as well.
02:01:25.000 Because there's a lot of people that believe that A lot of the things that I believe in that don't have the opportunity to do it, don't have the courage to do it, don't have the platform to do it in.
02:01:34.000 And I feel like I can speak for some of those people and hold a line for some of those people, regardless of what kind of crosshairs that puts me in with certain media members.
02:01:42.000 You know, they want to shut me down on being on McAfee.
02:01:45.000 They want to shut me up from...
02:01:46.000 Well, that was the Kimmel thing, right?
02:01:48.000 Well, no.
02:01:49.000 Did you ever talk to him?
02:01:50.000 I've been on the show years ago, yeah.
02:01:54.000 LAUGHTER Would you ever have a conversation with him in person?
02:02:00.000 Of course.
02:02:00.000 Yeah, of course.
02:02:02.000 I mean, they wanted me to be on his show in the summertime after I got traded.
02:02:08.000 Really?
02:02:09.000 There had obviously been some things that he had said about me that made me go, I don't know if I want to do that.
02:02:13.000 I'd rather maybe have a side conversation first, iron some things out.
02:02:18.000 Well, also, I don't think that conversation is a conversation that should be held in front of an audience in five-minute chunks.
02:02:26.000 Yeah.
02:02:51.000 Really?
02:02:52.000 Is that really how you feel?
02:02:54.000 Like people that are sick from a disease that was created in a fucking lab that was funded by our own tax dollars?
02:03:01.000 That's how you feel like?
02:03:02.000 Those people should just die because they don't trust the government or they don't trust the pharmaceutical industrial complex that's been responsible for lying so many fucking times.
02:03:11.000 They're literally criminal organizations.
02:03:13.000 They have some of the biggest criminal fines in the history of this country.
02:03:20.000 And that, all of a sudden, they're the ones we're supposed to trust?
02:03:23.000 The liberals were always the ones that were anti-big pharma.
02:03:28.000 They were always the ones that had no trust in big government.
02:03:31.000 Anti-big banks.
02:03:31.000 Yeah.
02:03:31.000 Anti-big banks.
02:03:33.000 All that.
02:03:33.000 And then all of a sudden...
02:03:34.000 Anti-war.
02:03:35.000 Yeah, all of a sudden the ideology shifts because so many people are compromised by this very thing that we were talking about before.
02:03:42.000 The very thing that they use to control the media in terms of the news, they use it to control the media in terms of late night talk shows and monologues as well.
02:03:50.000 It's the same influence because they're the same sponsors.
02:03:54.000 The same people are spending the same money on the same networks and it has an impact.
02:03:59.000 If it affects your livelihood and affects your future and your ability to do this thing that you love doing, which is hosting a talk show, and you're doing it on a network that is paid for by that money, guess what?
02:04:12.000 That affects you.
02:04:13.000 If you don't think it affects you, look what they did with the number one guy on TV news, Tucker Carlson.
02:04:19.000 They fired him.
02:04:21.000 He was the number one guy.
02:04:24.000 And they're like, you're getting too crazy.
02:04:27.000 See ya.
02:04:28.000 You're asking too many questions.
02:04:29.000 Too many questions.
02:04:30.000 You're getting a little too nutty.
02:04:32.000 All this talk about the CIA definitely killed Kennedy and all the talk.
02:04:37.000 All the things.
02:04:38.000 And now you look at that guy.
02:04:39.000 Now he's wild.
02:04:41.000 What they've done now is it's like...
02:04:44.000 What a fucking mistake firing that guy.
02:04:46.000 You should have kept him there and contained him.
02:04:49.000 Like, letting that guy go loose and do his own show, because it's not like, unless you kill him, it's not like people are going to stop listening.
02:04:56.000 They're going to be fascinated.
02:04:57.000 And the impressions, you know, the amount of people watching his stuff, it's crazy.
02:05:02.000 It's way bigger now.
02:05:03.000 His show is way bigger than it ever was before.
02:05:04.000 Because nobody fucking...
02:05:06.000 A lot of people, they don't even have cable packets, right?
02:05:08.000 They have a couple streaming services.
02:05:10.000 Now you got a fucking app, you can watch his shit whenever you want.
02:05:13.000 Anytime you want.
02:05:14.000 Imagine that conversation that he had with that guy about Ozempic.
02:05:18.000 Imagine that being on Fox News.
02:05:19.000 Yeah.
02:05:20.000 You can't imagine it.
02:05:21.000 No chance.
02:05:21.000 Impossible.
02:05:22.000 There's no fucking way.
02:05:23.000 But it goes back to what he said in it, is that they pay to control the message.
02:05:27.000 Exactly.
02:05:28.000 They get some other advantages about pushing their medicine, but they don't need any other help.
02:05:34.000 No.
02:05:34.000 They have doctors who can write prescriptions about it forever.
02:05:36.000 It keeps them from mass media or corporate media scrutiny.
02:05:39.000 Be careful, because if you look at the amount of percentage of their budgets that are paid for by pharma, it's pretty wild.
02:05:49.000 It's a lot of money.
02:05:50.000 And then you look at how much Bill Gates has put into all the different media stuff.
02:05:54.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars.
02:05:55.000 That's pretty wild, too.
02:05:56.000 Yeah.
02:05:58.000 So he knows, hey, unless you want the money train to turn off, you better make sure you say the right shit.
02:06:04.000 For a guy like that, you're worth a hundred billion dollars.
02:06:05.000 Who gives a shit?
02:06:06.000 Just to throw a few hundred million around and people don't talk shit about you?
02:06:10.000 Yeah.
02:06:10.000 That's great.
02:06:11.000 Yeah.
02:06:13.000 Yeah.
02:06:13.000 But it's a wild world we live in.
02:06:15.000 The fact that all this is true, this is like inarguably true.
02:06:20.000 All the things we're saying is inarguably true.
02:06:22.000 And that you still get labeled a conspiracy theorist for discussing it.
02:06:27.000 Like, yeah, I am.
02:06:28.000 Yeah.
02:06:29.000 Yeah, I'm a real conspiracy theorist.
02:06:31.000 Some conspiracies are really fucking idiots.
02:06:33.000 And a lot of them have been fucking proven true.
02:06:34.000 Yes.
02:06:35.000 And why the fuck did that term even come into existence?
02:06:40.000 To dissuade questioning the JFK. Yeah.
02:06:44.000 By a warrant commission basically run by Alan Dulles, who was fired by JFK. Yeah, who they named the fucking airport after.
02:06:55.000 I mean, come on, people.
02:06:57.000 It's pretty easy to connect a few of the dots here.
02:06:59.000 It's pretty wild.
02:06:59.000 It's wild stuff.
02:07:01.000 I mean, if you look at the real dark history of this country, going back to MKUltra and that chaos book by Tom O'Neill, if you just get into any of that and then delve into the Kennedy assassination, you lose all faith.
02:07:13.000 You lose all faith in the system.
02:07:15.000 You just could be fucking just petrified, frozen in fear.
02:07:20.000 So that's my question, is what, I mean, obviously this gives me a lot of hope, like what you do and the people you have on the podcast.
02:07:29.000 And it's not just great conversations with the boner from Alaska or what's her name who does the traffic show, which is fucking awesome.
02:07:37.000 But you give a platform to people who are, yeah, she's amazing.
02:07:40.000 Yeah, she's amazing.
02:07:41.000 But this gives me hope because more people listen to this than fucking watch any news stuff.
02:07:46.000 So they're getting real information from interesting people who are experts in their field about stuff.
02:07:51.000 But what hope can we have that shit's going to get better?
02:07:55.000 Like seriously.
02:07:56.000 My hope is literally that technology will make it impossible to lie.
02:08:02.000 I really think that's the battle.
02:08:04.000 The battle is between people that are trying to limit our access to the truth and technology which essentially illuminates all ignorance.
02:08:13.000 As this technology progresses and is essentially right now at a runaway train pace, kind of out of control.
02:08:22.000 And it's been – there's this understanding that we have to continue in this path because if we don't – China gets there first, we're fucked.
02:08:30.000 If Russia gets there first, we're fucked.
02:08:31.000 And so we're guns blazing towards this thing that will dissolve all access to information.
02:08:38.000 It will dissolve all boundaries rather to access to information.
02:08:42.000 They won't exist anymore.
02:08:43.000 You'll have the ability to understand the inner workings of everything.
02:08:48.000 And that transparency will make it increasingly difficult for them to fuck us.
02:08:53.000 And they're going to have to adjust accordingly.
02:08:55.000 And then also, people are going to die.
02:08:58.000 The old people, the old guard, they're going to die off.
02:09:00.000 You know, when you see...
02:09:02.000 What's the fucking dude's name that looks like a turtle?
02:09:05.000 Soros?
02:09:06.000 No, the old dude.
02:09:07.000 Mitch McConnell.
02:09:08.000 When he locked up.
02:09:11.000 Those guys are going to die.
02:09:12.000 It's a human reality.
02:09:14.000 You're a finite life form.
02:09:15.000 You only have so much time.
02:09:16.000 You can only rob the world of so much before eventually your heart stops ticking.
02:09:21.000 And then the new people as they come into place, these are people that are growing up with the internet.
02:09:27.000 It's a different understanding and reality of life itself.
02:09:32.000 But don't you think there has to be some sort of field of value that can orient people into like, hey, let's do things a little bit better because these things actually matter.
02:09:40.000 There is right and wrong.
02:09:41.000 There is morality.
02:09:42.000 Well, unfortunately, the problem with living in a secular society and living in a society that has a lot of people that are atheists, that have no belief system at all, Is you find a belief system and that's a lot of these people that call themselves atheists or they've subscribed to the religion of woke.
02:10:03.000 You know, their god is equity and inclusiveness.
02:10:06.000 Their god is this ideology that they think that you have to subscribe to.
02:10:10.000 And that's why it's spooky.
02:10:12.000 Because human beings seem to have a very strong desire for some sort of order and form and some sort of pattern that they can follow that seems to be the right way to go.
02:10:26.000 And they can be led by cults.
02:10:28.000 They can be led by groups of people.
02:10:30.000 They can be led by intolerant governments and evil armies and corrupt politicians.
02:10:38.000 They can be led.
02:10:39.000 But I think as time rolls on, people are going to understand the need to have some sort of divine structure to things, some sort of belief in the sanctity of love and of truth.
02:10:54.000 And a lot of that comes from religion.
02:10:57.000 A lot of people's moral compass and the guidelines that they've used to follow to live a just and righteous life has come from religion.
02:11:07.000 And unfortunately, a lot of very intelligent people, they dismiss all the positive aspects of religion because they think that the stories are mere superstitious fairy tales that they have no place in this modern world and we're inherently good and your ethics are based on your own moral compass and we all have one.
02:11:30.000 That's not necessarily true.
02:11:32.000 Because you see the way people behave in war, they don't have any moral compass.
02:11:35.000 They're just fucking murderers and killers.
02:11:37.000 And we've asked people in service of our country to go to these places and behave like murderers and killers and then reintegrate into society.
02:11:46.000 Right back into society and be a good person again and they don't know how to do it and they go crazy and there's a lot of them a lot of them who come back and they don't they're Down is up and up is down.
02:11:55.000 They don't know what the and we don't help them out.
02:11:57.000 We don't help them out on the suicide rate Suicide is the I think is it the number one killer of veterans pretty sure yeah Yeah, but yeah, it's a fucked up world.
02:12:09.000 We live in we need to we need Jesus For real.
02:12:13.000 Like, if you came back now, it'd be great.
02:12:15.000 Like, Jesus, if you're thinking about coming back...
02:12:17.000 Right now?
02:12:18.000 Now's a good time.
02:12:19.000 Pretty soon, yeah.
02:12:20.000 Now's a good time.
02:12:20.000 We're kind of fucked.
02:12:21.000 Well, there's a lot of people that think that might be coming.
02:12:24.000 Well, it might be.
02:12:25.000 Mark of the beast.
02:12:26.000 That might be the aliens.
02:12:27.000 I mean, that might be what all this stuff is.
02:12:31.000 It might be we reach a certain point where we're so unmanageable and so chaotic that something comes down and gives us a guideline.
02:12:40.000 I mean, this is what Moses essentially experienced, supposedly, right?
02:12:44.000 When he came back with his Ten Commandments.
02:12:46.000 This is supposedly what, you know, these people that have had these religious visions.
02:12:52.000 None of the religious visions were like, oh, oh my God, we're fucked.
02:12:56.000 All the religious visions were, there's a way to do this.
02:13:00.000 There's a guide.
02:13:01.000 There's a way to follow.
02:13:03.000 And there's a greater power that's above everything that controls this whole thing and keeps it all together.
02:13:11.000 There's laws to adhere that will make for a much better life for all humans, all life on Earth.
02:13:18.000 Yeah, it's hope.
02:13:18.000 Hope is a memory of the future.
02:13:21.000 This shit matters.
02:13:23.000 Yeah, it does matter.
02:13:25.000 Yeah, everything we do matters.
02:13:26.000 I think if atheists, I think, can find their own religion.
02:13:29.000 It might be religion of science or religion of climate change or whatever it might be.
02:13:34.000 But to not believe in a higher power means that really nothing I do matters, ultimately.
02:13:38.000 I live, I die, that's it.
02:13:41.000 So whatever purpose you might have, it's short-lived.
02:13:44.000 It's just for this.
02:13:45.000 There's nothing else going on.
02:13:47.000 I have a hard time with that because I believe there's a seen world and an unseen world.
02:13:51.000 And there's forces of good and forces of evil.
02:13:53.000 And that there's a purpose for all this.
02:13:55.000 And there's a lot of reasons why we're doing this.
02:13:59.000 There's a lot of opportunities to do this.
02:14:01.000 I'd like to get it right this time around.
02:14:04.000 Yeah.
02:14:05.000 That'd be nice.
02:14:06.000 That'd be nice.
02:14:07.000 But if there is the Christianity part and Jesus wants to come back and save everything...
02:14:14.000 It'd be good right around now.
02:14:16.000 Yeah.
02:14:17.000 Like, don't wait until the election.
02:14:19.000 Yeah.
02:14:20.000 Don't wait until China invades Taiwan.
02:14:23.000 Don't wait until Klaus Schwab puts on his suit again.
02:14:26.000 Yeah, don't wait until he gets on the Darth Vader outfit.
02:14:28.000 Why was he wearing that outfit?
02:14:29.000 Is there an explanation for why Klaus Schwab was dressed up?
02:14:35.000 I think he was on Epstein's Island.
02:14:37.000 Was he?
02:14:39.000 No, he probably has his own island.
02:14:41.000 Yeah.
02:14:42.000 Yeah, it's probably under the ocean.
02:14:43.000 Sorry, I'm not accusing Mr. Klaus Schwab of being on Epstein's Island.
02:14:47.000 Why did you bring up Jimmy Kimmel when that whole thing was going on?
02:14:51.000 I had said on The McAfee Show before, they had talked about, you know, forever, they talked about releasing the Epstein list or whatever.
02:14:58.000 And I had said that on the show.
02:15:00.000 And he had gone on his show and called me a tinfoil hat wearing, you know, doofus who is talking about, you know, I thought he had said that I'm an idiot for even thinking there's a list that's out there.
02:15:14.000 What was he saying you're a doofus for thinking?
02:15:19.000 That the list was going to get released, I guess.
02:15:22.000 I don't know.
02:15:23.000 I don't know what it was.
02:15:24.000 That doesn't make any sense.
02:15:24.000 Why would anybody defend the people that apparently were on that list?
02:15:29.000 Because it is a real list and it is a real place.
02:15:35.000 About this list coming out and we were talking about as a distraction to something else.
02:15:40.000 And I was referring to the list being, there being a list and it coming out.
02:15:44.000 He might have said, might have been thinking that I was trying to connect a distraction that was going on with a list being released.
02:15:53.000 So I just said, you know.
02:15:55.000 So when you were saying that he doesn't want that list to come out, you weren't saying that he was on that list?
02:16:00.000 No.
02:16:00.000 No.
02:16:00.000 Okay.
02:16:01.000 See, that was a lot of people, if they saw it out of context.
02:16:04.000 Nobody watched the fucking clip.
02:16:05.000 That's why.
02:16:05.000 Right.
02:16:06.000 They just saw a headline.
02:16:07.000 They saw a very small thing.
02:16:07.000 Oh, it's the anti-vax guy again.
02:16:09.000 Let's fucking hammer him.
02:16:10.000 Right.
02:16:10.000 But if someone saw that out of context, you could see how, and I thought that you were saying.
02:16:15.000 Oh, yeah.
02:16:16.000 Because I saw it out of context.
02:16:17.000 I thought that you were saying that Jimmy Kimmel was on that list.
02:16:20.000 Because a lot of celebrities were on that list.
02:16:22.000 Right.
02:16:22.000 Well, the list hasn't even been released yet.
02:16:24.000 But whatever list there was.
02:16:26.000 There was one text of like one victim's stuff.
02:16:29.000 There's a hundred victims.
02:16:31.000 Nobody's gotten...
02:16:32.000 You're talking about people going to jail.
02:16:33.000 No one's gotten to jail who...
02:16:36.000 I mean, Ghislaine Maxwell was charged and in jail for trafficking to nobody?
02:16:42.000 Right.
02:16:43.000 Which is wild.
02:16:44.000 Yeah.
02:16:44.000 And I said this when I was back on the show.
02:16:47.000 That's a big fucking accusation that I wouldn't make.
02:16:50.000 And I said, Jimmy, I'm glad you're not on the list.
02:16:53.000 And all I'm asking is...
02:16:55.000 Let's have the same energy for you talking about the vax and people, if you're not vaxed, just being left to die about these people on the list because it's fucked up and what goes on at the top of this shit and why people are going to Epstein's Island and all the conspiracies about whether he was a Mossad member and Ghislaine and her father and all the weird connections.
02:17:19.000 I'm for all corruption in all forms being taken down.
02:17:22.000 I don't give a fuck if you're on the right side, on the left side, whatever.
02:17:25.000 Expose it.
02:17:26.000 Especially if you're doing crazy shit like that to kids.
02:17:29.000 It seems like it was an intelligence operation.
02:17:32.000 It seems like if you had to guess, they were compromising powerful and influential people and they could use that to control all sorts of narratives and to make all sorts of decisions.
02:17:45.000 How many people, like those guys that were CEOs that had given him money, hundreds of millions of dollars, the fact that you would walk in the foyer of his house in New York City and Bill Clinton's wearing a fucking dress and a painting, you know, and Bill Clinton was on the flight logs.
02:17:59.000 And the Bush painting?
02:18:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:18:01.000 That's some weird shit.
02:18:02.000 It's weird.
02:18:03.000 It's very weird.
02:18:04.000 It's all very creepy.
02:18:06.000 And the fact that it was a real place.
02:18:08.000 I was telling people that Alex Jones told me about that a long time ago.
02:18:12.000 I thought he was out of his fucking mind.
02:18:14.000 There's a place, they take him, they compromise him, they have sex with kids.
02:18:17.000 I'm like, what?
02:18:17.000 Your fucking impression is so good.
02:18:20.000 I've known that guy forever.
02:18:21.000 I know that guy before he talked like that.
02:18:23.000 His voice wasn't as scraggly.
02:18:24.000 All the years of tequila and vodka.
02:18:27.000 But I thought it was nuts and it turned out to be true.
02:18:31.000 It turned out to absolutely be true and still there's no effort whatsoever to try to get to the bottom of it, find out who the people were and why they were there and there's no like real hardcore congressional investigation of what was being done,
02:18:47.000 how were they being influenced, what was it about.
02:18:50.000 Why do you think that is?
02:18:52.000 Some fucking powerful people on that list, Jack.
02:18:55.000 And also, they don't want to fuck with this mechanism that they have that has been proven to be effective.
02:19:02.000 If there was an Epstein's Island, which there was...
02:19:05.000 There could be other ones.
02:19:07.000 For sure.
02:19:08.000 For sure.
02:19:09.000 Why wouldn't there be?
02:19:11.000 He didn't kill himself either.
02:19:12.000 He definitely didn't.
02:19:14.000 No.
02:19:15.000 I don't think he did.
02:19:17.000 Did you ever see that congressional hearing?
02:19:20.000 What is this?
02:19:21.000 Glenn Maxwell could make millions from Jeffrey Epstein's scandal.
02:19:23.000 How's that?
02:19:24.000 Writing a book?
02:19:25.000 Yeah.
02:19:25.000 How is that lady alive?
02:19:27.000 She says she can take all profits, including any documentaries, podcasts, and films that come from the book.
02:19:33.000 Wow.
02:19:33.000 She only has a 20-year sentence.
02:19:35.000 Does she get out?
02:19:36.000 How many years has she been in there?
02:19:38.000 Good behavior?
02:19:39.000 Yeah.
02:19:39.000 About in two years?
02:19:40.000 Or if someone comes along and fucking pardons her?
02:19:45.000 She's appealed.
02:19:46.000 She's maintained her innocence.
02:19:47.000 Has appealed her conviction.
02:19:49.000 And isn't she in like a real nice cushy jail where you get to do yoga and stuff and it's not that bad?
02:19:55.000 Probably.
02:19:56.000 The whole thing is confusing.
02:19:57.000 Did you ever see the congressional hearing or whatever it was when they had the head of the prison in there talking about what was going on?
02:20:06.000 Like how come nobody was guarding his cell?
02:20:08.000 How come the cameras were off?
02:20:10.000 How come he has a fractured It's indicative of ligature strangulation.
02:20:16.000 Dr. Michael Badden did the autopsy.
02:20:19.000 He said he's been murdered.
02:20:21.000 By the way, your dog's been farting like crazy.
02:20:22.000 Is he?
02:20:23.000 Oh, Marshall, what are you doing, buddy?
02:20:25.000 I'm farting.
02:20:26.000 I was like, I don't want you to think that was me.
02:20:29.000 It smells like...
02:20:30.000 He farts.
02:20:32.000 Some sort of...
02:20:32.000 He's a dog.
02:20:33.000 Yeah, Asian food or something.
02:20:35.000 No, he didn't eat any Asian food.
02:20:36.000 He eats raw food.
02:20:38.000 Boy, that changed.
02:20:39.000 By the way, folks, feed your dog real food.
02:20:42.000 So many people are feeding their dog kibble.
02:20:44.000 That's tough.
02:20:45.000 The reason why I can sit on a shelf for so long is because it's not real food.
02:20:48.000 It's garbage.
02:20:49.000 What do you feed him?
02:20:50.000 Because I'm about to get a dog.
02:20:52.000 I feed him something called Maeve.
02:20:55.000 M-A-E-V. It's frozen raw food.
02:20:58.000 So it's frozen meat and it has...
02:21:02.000 It has vegetables in it and blueberries and stuff like that.
02:21:06.000 And man, he gobbles it up and it's changed his body.
02:21:09.000 He lost a ton of weight.
02:21:10.000 He was getting kind of thick, unfortunately.
02:21:12.000 And I'd exercise him a lot.
02:21:14.000 But you know, you give him what he wants to eat and he eats a lot of it.
02:21:18.000 And then you're like, is this stuff good for you?
02:21:20.000 It's expensive.
02:21:21.000 Is this the best dog food?
02:21:22.000 It says dog food.
02:21:23.000 It says the purest ingredients.
02:21:24.000 But if it could just sit on a shelf You wouldn't eat that?
02:21:27.000 Like, if you had to eat Pop-Tarts forever, your body's gonna fall apart, right?
02:21:31.000 And a lot of dogs are getting cancer these days.
02:21:33.000 So there's a company called Farmer's Dog, and Jamie feeds his dog that.
02:21:39.000 It's all real food, too.
02:21:40.000 There's quite a few companies that do that now, and what it is is just real food, real meat and real vegetables and stuff.
02:21:49.000 Man, it's changed his energy level.
02:21:51.000 He was getting gray hairs on his face.
02:21:52.000 They went away.
02:21:54.000 It's like he went backwards in time.
02:21:56.000 Have you got him on the red light bed yet?
02:21:58.000 No, no, no, no.
02:21:59.000 He gets a lot of exercise, though.
02:22:01.000 He's got a nice big yard.
02:22:02.000 I always throw the ball to him for quite a while before I take him here.
02:22:07.000 Tire him out a little bit.
02:22:08.000 Yeah.
02:22:08.000 Whenever you take him somewhere, you've got to like...
02:22:10.000 Wear him out first.
02:22:12.000 Unfortunately, he's not good on a leash.
02:22:14.000 Marshall's quite a puller.
02:22:15.000 I can see that.
02:22:16.000 He's just fucking...
02:22:17.000 He's got a lot of energy.
02:22:18.000 He's an enthusiastic dog.
02:22:19.000 But he's the best.
02:22:20.000 He's such a sweet dog.
02:22:21.000 I mean, you see him.
02:22:22.000 Everybody he meets is his best friend.
02:22:24.000 And everybody loves him, so he's just used to people just loving him.
02:22:27.000 Yeah, we bonded pretty quick.
02:22:28.000 He's like, rub my belly!
02:22:28.000 Yeah, as soon as he sees people, he drops down.
02:22:30.000 He's like, I know you want to rub me.
02:22:32.000 A big smile on his face.
02:22:35.000 He's rocking the ground with us, too.
02:22:36.000 I'm sorry he's farting on you, though.
02:22:38.000 That's all good.
02:22:39.000 I love dogs.
02:22:40.000 Listen, brother, I appreciate you.
02:22:41.000 I appreciate you out there.
02:22:42.000 I appreciate your courage to talk about these things that are important for you.
02:22:47.000 And obviously, it doesn't hurt that you're fucking awesome at football.
02:22:51.000 I'm going to be back this year.
02:22:52.000 Hopefully back to my old ways.
02:22:53.000 Hope to get you and Jamie out to a game.
02:22:55.000 Yeah, we'll go for sure.
02:22:57.000 As soon as you're back, man.
02:22:58.000 But I appreciate you having me on again.
02:23:00.000 My pleasure, brother.
02:23:00.000 I fucking love the show, love the episodes, love what you're all about, and appreciate having you as an ally in this whole thing.
02:23:08.000 Thank you.
02:23:09.000 Thank you.
02:23:09.000 I appreciate you too.
02:23:10.000 All right.
02:23:11.000 Goodbye, everybody.