In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I sit down with my good friend and fellow podcaster, John Rocha, to talk about a wide range of topics. We talk about how we met, what it's like being a female in the world of sports, and what it means to be a fan of women in the sports world. We also talk about the importance of being nice to each other and how we should all be a little more nice to one another. I hope you enjoy, sit down, and have a nice rest of your day! -Joe Rogan Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with what's going on in our world of podcasting, comedy, and all things pop culture. -J.R. Subscribe and Share on Apple Podcasts, too! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on iTunes and we'll give you 5 stars on your favorite streaming platform so we can keep giving you the best listening experience possible! Thank you! Cheers, Jon and John! -Jon and John and the rest of the crew at The Joe Rogans Experience Podcast. Check us out! Subscribe to the podcast and tell us what you think about what you thought of it! We'll be looking out for you in the comments and what you're looking forward to in the next episode! Timestamps: 5 stars is a review! 6 stars is much appreciated! 7 stars! 8 stars is more than enough! 9 stars? 10 stars is enough? 11 stars is too much? 12? 13? 15 stars is not enough?? 15? 16? 17? 18? 19? 21? 20? 22? 24? 25? 26? 27? 23? Can you give me a review? 30? ? 26?? 27?? 26?! 27?! 26 28? 28 29? 29 32? 31? 32 33? 36? 35 36 35? 33 34 38 39 40 31 30 45 44 41 37 42 43
00:00:43.000And I did theaters last year for the first time ever, just the theater run, so now I'm back in clubs to just tighten it, but I love it, man.
00:02:38.000Yeah, and then when I have fighters on, unless it's female fighters, I've had a bunch of female fighters on too.
00:02:43.000You know, female fighters are probably my best example that I point to when people think that something horrible about fighting, that it's like brutality and it's wrong and it's barbaric.
00:02:55.000I'll point them to some female fighters.
00:02:57.000I'm like, just listen to this woman talk.
00:02:58.000Like, listen to Rose Namajuna's talk about fighting.
00:03:01.000And, like, listen to her post-fight speeches when she's telling everybody that we just have to be nicer to each other.
00:03:07.000It is pretty cool to be almost like Buddhist and a fighter.
00:04:28.000I'm definitely no basketball expert, but when I watch high-performing athletics, in a team sports environment, it's always this dance between what is the best thing to do to score versus what do I want to do?
00:04:43.000What do I want to do since I have the ball?
00:04:59.000Yeah, if you slow down, like, I mean, think about it.
00:05:01.000If you want to simplify it to, like, kids playing in the park, if you're playing your ass off on D and you have one dude just, like, ISO dribbling the whole time on offense, you're like, you're wasting our energy.
00:06:19.000Involved in competitive sports, they're all just going after each other, whether it's with basketball or football, or especially with fighting.
00:06:26.000On the professional level, it can be cool, but when you play with your friends in the park, and you have that one guy with anger problems, and you're like, I had a friend who used to yell at people.
00:06:56.000He would create reasons to be mad at us.
00:06:58.000There's this famous story about MJ where he, like a guy was like, he had a career night against Michael Jordan, a career night, 39 points or something.
00:14:21.000And then you encourage them as far as they want to go with it.
00:14:24.000I think about it in sports a lot, too, where a guy like LeBron, who came from absolutely nothing and became LeBron, he's got a son now who, first of all, being LeBron's son can't be easy, right?
00:15:36.000Watching the Super Bowl, how many people on the 49ers, I was like, this is like fucking war.
00:15:41.000People were just carried off on stretchers.
00:15:43.000It felt like I was watching MASH. It was rough.
00:15:47.000You don't see a lot of rich people's sons going into that line of work.
00:15:52.000Well, Bill Lambeer on the Bad Boy Pistons came from Privilege, but then Isaiah Thomas, he's the general, and he came from the worst fucking part of Chicago.
00:16:05.000I mean, I could see how they could compete in some sports, but in combat sports, like, the people that come from nothing have, like, extra gear.
00:16:28.000If you watch those videos of him out in the back parking areas where they would fight on parking lots and backyards and dodging satellite dishes and shit.
00:18:23.000He wanted to fight in, like, the UFC. He fought for a while in Elite XC, and he fought some good fighters over there, and then came over to the UFC and did the Ultimate Fighter.
00:18:35.000Just like a very ballsy thing to do, you know?
00:18:39.000To try to learn grappling and fight in front of the world.
00:19:47.000But then there's some that for whatever reason, like maybe their style of grappling was more controlled based and less dynamic and not as explosive and like changing from move to move.
00:19:58.000Because some guys just have like a slow pressure wrestling game and those guys just can never get the punches flowing.
00:20:06.000Everything's just all bunched up, you know?
00:20:09.000They're just so used to like grabbing and squeezing things that the idea of being like loose and punching It doesn't make sense to them.
00:23:06.000Stand-up's always number one, and I think, thank God for stand-up, because sometimes I try to make, I'm trying to make a show now, and the amount of fucking emails back and forth, the amount of, like, meetings, this, that.
00:23:17.000And I'm like, man, if this was all I had, I'd fucking put a bullet in my head.
00:25:20.000It's really the only art form that's made that way.
00:25:24.000And you know, it's really interesting that so many people love it, but there's no real formal study of it by anybody that knows how to do it.
00:26:09.000Yeah, I mean, that's the cool thing about comics is guys like Nate Bargatze or something like that, where the jokes, like, he has a rhythm that's so unique.
00:26:16.000You're like, oh, I'm just like, I'm just under his spell.
00:28:04.000By the way, I love when it's on shuffle and you hear like, it goes from like a Tom Waits song to like Nick DiPaolo and you're like, that was fucking, that was a big right turn right there.
00:28:55.000It's part of what the show used to be.
00:28:56.000It's weird that there's a social responsibility people attribute to comedians when it's like, most of us got good at this by cursing at strangers in a bar.
00:29:05.000I mean, we all have our political opinions, which is fine, but it's like what John's capable of is delivering the news in a very funny way.
00:29:15.000He's the best at that role of being, like, the guy that's doing the satire of the news, you know, just breaking down everything that's wrong and fucking stupid in the world.
00:29:26.000He is the peak, and it's interesting because he's like the Animal House.
00:29:30.000He's like National Lampoon's Animal House of...
00:29:33.000He's like the bar, and then everyone tries to copy Animal House, right?
00:30:32.000I guess he had a deal with Apple, and I don't know if they're saying the specifics of why they canceled the show, but it was something akin to...
00:30:46.000They didn't want him to say anything that would get them in trouble.
00:32:44.000Members of the U.S. House of Representatives later questions Apple CEO Tim Cook about whether the tech giant's decision to cancel Stewart's show is because the host may have been planning an upcoming episode about China.
00:32:58.000He says, while companies have the right to determine what content is appropriate for their streaming service, the coercive tactics of a foreign power should not be directly or indirectly influencing those determinations.
00:33:10.000The leaders of the House of Representatives Select Committee on Competition with the Chinese Communist Party wrote in a letter to Cook.
00:33:19.000While Stewart did not mention the rumors about Apple's alleged worry over an episode about China, he did say the tech giant Did want me to say things that might get me in trouble.
00:33:33.000As for his Daily Show return, he said he hopes to provide a catharsis to viewers this election season and a way to comment on things and a way to express them that hopefully people will enjoy.
00:34:58.000Guardians of Peace sounds like a new bill that would push for the House.
00:35:04.000Man, some of the Senate, remember when the Senate did a hearing on, it was like during Katrina, I think they did like one day on Katrina and nine days on steroids and baseball.
00:35:15.000Because you just want to meet Rafael Palmeiro, remember?
00:37:24.000But they usually end up, sometimes they think it's funny.
00:37:27.000But other times, yeah, I did one, we were on a tour bus last year and I pretended my opener, Gary Veeder, overdosed on cocaine on the bus and they were so mad at me.
00:37:37.000And she called me like, you're banned from Good Morning Durham.
00:41:05.000And it makes me think, if you look at that guy, no offense to that guy that you were just talking to, but I couldn't imagine some sort of an audition process that yielded such results.
00:43:32.000You kind of killed a lot of those types of shows with your show because it's like, would you rather see them on, you know, Good Morning whatever for four minutes or on your show for three hours?
00:44:39.000Even people with short attention spans get into things.
00:44:43.000There might be some subject that someone's talking about that lights your interest, lights your curiosity, and then you get locked into it.
00:44:53.000Where you would never spend three hours ordinarily listening to some guy talk about Egypt.
00:44:59.000Some, you know, Graham Hancock type character talking about the people that constructed these things in Turkey and shit.
00:45:12.000You could get locked into a conversation, and if it's a three-hour conversation, you come out of that much more energized with whatever that subject is.
00:45:24.000It's not only is that true, but also I think the fact that people can listen to stuff while they're like cleaning the house and stuff.
00:45:30.000I mean, you can't do that with a movie, right?
00:45:32.000The thing is that the number one attractor is always going to be like the TikTok and the Instagram reels.
00:50:58.000I just like, I say how much I hate watching these food things, but I fucking can't, I just like the, I like how he likes all the same types, I like like that flop, the, uh, the New Haven pizza's my favorite pizza.
00:51:08.000It's the best pizza in the world, apparently.
00:51:10.000According to Portnoy, he knows more than...
00:51:12.000I told him, I said, you should get 10% of all the profits for pizza.
00:51:16.000I bet if you had, like, a pizza chart between when Portnoy started doing those reviews to how many people are going and buying pizza now, I bet it's not a small number.
00:51:27.000I bet he's impacted the pizza world significantly.
00:51:36.000I'm like, oh, it looks like he's having a good time.
00:51:39.000We did, when I was in Chicago with Mateo Lane, he's in Chicago theater one night, did the next night, so I just got in early, we hung out, we made pizza at Lou Malnati's Deep Dish, and they let us in there to just make pizza, and then I was like, all right, now, I don't like Chicago pizza that much.
00:51:53.000It's like, it tastes good, it's just not my style of pizza.
00:55:42.000There's a line in that show where, like, you know, Meadows being a spoiled brat, and they're like, we're gonna ground you, you can't do this, and she just runs away, and Carmella's like, what do we do when we realize that we have no power?
00:59:39.000You know, I mean, that was really like a golden age in TV. Wow.
00:59:43.000The way, like, the 60s, 70s was a golden age in Hollywood, you know, where, like, you get, like, all those fucking old movies of, like, you know, Bonnie and Clyde starting this off, The Graduate, Chinatown, Godfather, Taxi Driver, like, all these insane apocalypse now,
01:01:16.000But the thing about those movies is, and I didn't see this one, you got to remember if you're going that irreverent to have the heart of like a Fairleigh Brothers movie.
01:01:33.000But in the first scene, she's got a mentally challenged brother and he gets his ass kicked protecting her and you're like, he's a good guy.
01:01:40.000So I think, go for the fucking juggler, but make sure that you love the characters.
01:01:44.000Yeah, and also, there's not a lot of really good...
01:01:49.000How many people are really good at making those kind of movies?
01:01:55.000You know, there's a few people that, like, excel.
01:01:58.000Well, Todd Phillips went to serious movies, right?
01:02:00.000You know, so he was, like, one of the last ones making, like, big hits.
01:02:44.000Dude, I remember Whitney is making something about Dangerfield, and I was leaving her podcast with her once, and she was like, do you want to talk to...
01:02:51.000She knows I love him, so she's like, do you want to talk to his wife on the phone?
01:03:34.000So fucking, you even see episodes, it's funny where he's on like Howard Stern and Stern's trying to like get him to open up and he just keeps doing like one-liners.
01:09:36.000That seemed like it was really the West, but it was really just in this domed environment.
01:09:41.000Just even things like the Oculus or the new Apple Vision, you're like, what is happening?
01:09:45.000Bro, we're gonna be so fucked in about five to ten years.
01:09:50.000It's gonna be too late to turn back, and we're gonna be embedded.
01:09:55.000There's something gonna happen where you're gonna get an advantage from being connected to a network that you don't get without it that's almost impossible to live without.
01:11:38.000Tom Segura and I, almost every day, send each other the most horrific accidents, disasters, boulders, crashing fucking cars that are on mountain roads.
01:11:49.000Everything fucked up we send back and forth to each other.
01:11:52.000And if I didn't have the ability to click on the link, I'm missing a little bit of joy in my day.
01:12:40.000You're gonna miss out on things if you're disconnected and if you're too connected, you're gonna be addicted and fucking losing all your life energy and time and attention to nonsense, which is what a lot of people are doing all day long.
01:12:54.000You're just scrolling through nonsense.
01:12:56.000You just get nonsense in front of your face.
01:12:58.000It's just there's nothing nourishing about it.
01:13:03.000It's just dumb thing after dumb thing after dumb thing after dumb thing and The thing that doesn't do that is podcasts, which is interesting.
01:16:06.000That message was found, because Snapchat's supposed to be encrypted, and some people think it's because of the Wi-Fi network at the airport, and the airport says that's not how it was.
01:16:16.000And then the UK authorities said, where was it right here?
01:16:19.000So is this evidence of some new technology?
01:16:21.000I mean, as you guys were saying this stuff, that's why I brought it up.
01:16:39.000The message was made in a strictly private environment between the accused and his friends with whom he flew through a private group to which only they have access.
01:16:48.000So the accused could not even remotely assume that the joke he played on his friends could be intercepted or detected by British services, nor by third parties other than his friends who received the message.
01:17:01.000See, that's crazy because sometimes you'll say wild shit to your friends in a text message.
01:17:21.000But I bet if you'd have used Signal, I bet they're looking through Signal, too.
01:17:25.000I bet there is a scanning that's being done on all cell phone communication looking for key target words that they think would be problematic.
01:17:37.000Well, think about how much of our freedom we're constantly giving away.
01:17:41.000When I fly, I don't want to wait on a long line.
01:17:43.000So I give them my iris, my fingerprint, all that stuff.
01:17:46.000Now those lines are longer than the other lines.
01:18:42.000It'll get to the point where you'll just have an account in your head and you won't have to pay for anything with a credit card ever again.
01:18:49.000It'll all be an account in your head, but only through Central Bank Digital Currency.
01:18:53.000If you subscribe to Central Bank Digital Currency, we can iron out all the inequality and all the problems of society today.
01:20:10.000If you could have something that stimulates various parts of your brain to produce certain neurochemicals, if that's possible, they're going to be able to do something where people that are paralyzed can use cursors.
01:20:24.000They can use their brain to figure out how to navigate computers.
01:22:36.000If you really want to be completely self-sufficient, like, wow.
01:22:40.000The only reason we can do all the things that we do is because so many other people provide you with the stuff that would take up all your time, which is gathering food, eating it.
01:22:52.000That's like most of what you would be doing, trying to find food, eating it.
01:25:59.000He's a fucking awesome writer, but uh Yeah, I mean I you know him I don't know so I was like that's an interesting window into like who he is and like how how what made him that way I'm always curious to like the origin story of like bullied kid and in Africa like interesting interesting life Yeah,
01:26:57.000It's like, buys Twitter, posts on it all the time, dunks on people, posts memes, you know, gets people mad at him.
01:27:08.000Then is also running SpaceX and is also running Tesla and is also running the boring company like what the fuck man?
01:27:16.000He it's having similar characteristics of like a degenerate gambler to be that successful in business like that because you have to be willing to go all in all the time Well, he's one of the very few people that's like the head of a business like that.
01:27:29.000That's also You know he's of extraordinary Human in terms of like the way his mind functions So it's not a normal person.
01:27:41.000No, you don't get to that level There's none of those other guys that run a lot of the companies that are run by CEOs You know you remember when that guy was running Microsoft The bomber guy that would jump around and scream.
01:27:53.000It's one of my all-time favorite videos because it's so insane.
01:27:58.000It's all Microsoft employees and Steve Ballmer gets out there and he goes nuts.
01:30:03.000So if you're gonna have to do those kind of things, where you go out in front of all the fucking employees and dance around, why not go nutty?
01:30:25.000Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of guy you want running your dominating software company that's constantly getting shut down for anti-competitive practices.
01:34:22.000When you hear the stories of what they did to the kids in the schools, you know, when you hear the stories of the battles and these people just getting wiped out, you're like, holy shit!
01:34:35.000Could you imagine living in a place and you've been living off the land in these...
01:34:40.000These houses that you make out of animal skins and you travel with your family and you've always traveled like this.
01:34:46.000And then all of a sudden these motherfuckers start coming from another country and they don't stop coming.
01:35:43.000I love everyone involved, honestly, but it was just like, for me, like, that's a book that they should have...
01:35:48.000I think he got criticized for saying something like, I was telling it from the white man's perspective, and you're like, well, you are a white guy.
01:35:55.000Like, that is your perspective, probably, right?
01:35:58.000There's nothing wrong with that, but...
01:36:00.000Um, I just think he chose the wrong white guy.
01:36:03.000Like, the PI, that guy's real life, I forgot his name, you could probably find it, but, uh, I mean, holy shit, this guy, like, he was like, the CIA, uh, fucking J. Edgar, uh, FBI, rather.
01:36:18.000Yeah, treated him like shit, because he wasn't like, he wanted the, you know, the vibe to be college boys, like, you know, Harvard educated, and he wasn't that, so he always was like, didn't show him any respect.
01:38:10.000Which is crazy, because how many women out there look like Charlize Theron did in Monster who could actually, with the right diet plan, pull it together?
01:39:35.000Talking about AI. But you know what I'm saying?
01:39:36.000If you get skinny for that because she left you in that box with nothing but water and they come back and they're like, you know, remember at the end of the movie when he gets, spoiler alert, when he gets stuck in there and she just walks away?
01:40:03.000You know, especially if I'm some scientist dork on an island somewhere, and there's a hot robot that I'm supposed to interact with, and she knows how to press my buttons.
01:40:11.000I'm working on a bit on stage, which is like, we're gonna fuck robots, but I think it's gonna be like a cell phone.
01:42:34.000You can have a robot, and you can have a robot for a wife.
01:42:38.000But that robot for a wife, if she catches you doing anything, if you do anything that's illegal, you get a red light code and she detains you.
01:42:49.000Because your robot wife is stronger than you.
01:42:51.000And you can fuck this really hot robot wife and she looks like just a really hot woman.
01:44:57.000If you could get that guy to somehow or another pilot a drone, and if it's that responsive that it allows him to instantaneously move the thing and it's shooting real guns, he'll fucking kill everybody!
01:45:23.000If you're actually doing this in the real world, now imagine you're attached to some sort of a machine, you're using all of these remote controls that you would use on an Xbox, you're totally familiar with it,
01:46:29.000I think about it all the time about how this is different.
01:46:33.000It's like lasers and shit, but I think some of the war games, GTA, they're fun as hell, but what do you do when you play GTA? I have friends that are just murdering random people on the sidewalk.
01:46:43.000At a certain point, this is not great for your brain.
01:46:46.000It's not great for your brain, but it's no different than golf.
01:46:52.000It's a thing that people get really good at and super hyper-competitive at.
01:46:56.000It's no different than any of those other things.
01:47:26.000Like, Billy, you need to get your law degree so that you can be a partner and you can fucking work weekends and 17-hour days and make a small fraction of what you would do with a blue wig on and fucking the Terminator sunglasses.
01:48:36.000You should worry about yourself, you know?
01:48:38.000A lot of times it is your own issues with that, right?
01:48:41.000Like, for me, like, you know, I don't think everyone should go to therapy, but I think some people could benefit from talking out loud and looking at themselves, you know?
01:49:46.000This idea that everybody has to pretend that they're on a special team that's opposed to the opposite gender or the opposite sexual orientation.
01:51:10.000That is where women really have it harder, I think.
01:51:13.000Well, that's one aspect of it, but also even just the act of stand-up.
01:51:17.000When you're going on stage and you're a woman and you're starting to talk about politics, you're going to get a certain percentage of the guys in the audience like...
01:51:25.000That guy that was doing this with you, he was doing that because of a woman, right?
01:51:30.000Do you know how bad it would be if an actual woman was on stage and the girl wants to be there?
01:59:03.000The correct thing is to say exactly why what you're doing is lazy and what you think is actually behind that thinking and the way you behave.
01:59:52.000Especially if you're calling each other like, I used to have neighbors who would scream at each other in ways where I'd be like, this is not healthy for either of you.
02:00:08.000I don't ever want to do that in my life.
02:00:10.000And I think it's a dangerous area to get to.
02:00:13.000Because I think if you're screaming at each other and calling each other names and saying mean shit to each other, you're real close to violence.
02:02:08.000You know, how much of it could have been avoided if I was less defensive or if I was more friendly and disarming or if I was just more careful with my words?
02:02:19.000How much could I have manipulated this conversation or massaged this conversation?
02:02:24.000And, you know, that's a thing you always have to think about when it comes to, like, two people that don't know each other interacting with each other.
02:02:30.000Especially if they're drunk, you know, like after a show or something like that.
02:05:02.000So if someone's badly behaved, I'm like, hey, I'm usually, as long as they're not like a huge asshole, I don't want people kicked out of my shows ever.
02:05:10.000But at the same time, I think people, I mean, I remember a guy threw a fucking bottle at David Tell's head and he was just like, he gave, I think he gave the guy's friend bail money for the guy.
02:06:07.000We're a comedy store, like, the comedy store 90s comedians, you know, and I count Diaz in one of those, were constantly involved in these chaotic shows.
02:10:27.000The one I remember all the time is Undercutters Pizza, where he would just follow people.
02:10:32.000He'd follow a pizza delivery guy and bring all the toppings in a suitcase, and he'd be like, we're Undercutters Pizza, we'll charge you less to the guy he was delivering it to.
02:10:40.000And I'm like, and the guy fucking tried to kick his ass.
02:11:56.000It's one of the last movies, I feel like, that got destroyed by critics.
02:11:58.000It's when critics still had their power, and it was like a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes or whatever, and they're like, it's like back, like, think about it, critics can't do that shit anymore.
02:12:07.000I don't think that had Rotten Tomatoes back then.
02:12:38.000I don't know how to interpret scripts.
02:12:40.000Maybe it could have been made amazing.
02:12:42.000But most people thought it was preposterous.
02:12:43.000Well, his reviews, though, I mean, that was his talent, his reviews, because he would write shit, and look, he would articulate things like, fuck, I didn't realize I felt that way, and that's what a good writer can do, you know?
02:12:54.000Yeah, but it's also, he's a different human than you.
02:12:56.000Like an Adam Sandler movie, for me, I'm like, I can review an Adam Sandler movie, and I go, it's fun, silly, it's great, the Zohan, he fucks everyone, cuts hair, kicks everybody's ass, it's really fun.
02:13:08.000At the end of the movie, you're like, I had a good fucking time.
02:17:23.000I just didn't think it was that funny.
02:17:25.000I just thought it was kind of like, I'm going to get trash for this, but I just thought it was, I know everyone loves this fucking movie, but I just thought it was, I didn't laugh.
02:23:53.000It's like, the amount of shit-talking, I mean, everybody gets, people, it's like basically a podcast, but in text, but like people, so Richard Burden will like walk up to a mid-interview and he's like, can't you see I'm talking to someone else?
02:25:05.000But he, the amount of people he shit talks in the book where he's like, fuck, he's like, fuck Woody Allen.
02:25:11.000And he'll just go on like a, but it's like everything he says, like I love Woody Allen, but everything he says, I'm like, it's pretty fucking funny.
02:30:28.000The reality is it's probably about 250 that I would want to hang out with that I would say are legit.
02:30:35.000It's fortunate that we get to be part of this fraternity of comics who are just very cool and luckily most of the people that I've wanted to meet have always ended up being pretty cool.
02:30:56.000Honestly, the exceptions that I encountered, and I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but there's some people that I like now that in, like, 2001 I wanted to smack.
02:31:05.000You know, there were some people that were, like, really rude and shitty because there was the culture of being rude and shitty that was almost encouraged.
02:31:13.000When Phil Hartman came over to news radio from Saturday Night Live, he had this very bizarre kind of anticipation of hostility from other cast members because he was very highly paid.
02:31:27.000Obviously, I wasn't famous at all when I was on news radio.
02:34:22.000But some people, they're just stuck in a pattern.
02:34:25.000Sometimes they don't see quite how bad it is.
02:34:27.000Even when your friends point it out, you don't really see it until you get some distance from that relationship.
02:34:32.000Well, it's also you learn from your parents.
02:34:34.000And if you come from parents that beat the shit out of each other or scream at each other, throw things at each other, you get accustomed to thinking that's how relationships work, how they function.
02:35:36.000But he was a dude who his dad fucked him up because his dad walked out on the family and like I think the mother was like mental but he was supposed to be raised by his father so he took his dad owned a hotel and they would like take him take a train to the hotel your dad is where your dad is So his dad hears that he's fucking coming and he sold the hotel and disappeared.
02:35:58.000So then he just shows up and is like a fat kid, like 13. He's like, what do I do?
02:36:02.000And they're like, we can give you a job here.
02:36:03.000So he started working at the hotel at like 13. And then he joins, he finds out he's good by joining the talent show.
02:36:10.000And they're like, this guy's got an incredible voice.
02:36:14.000And then he was being silly and funny.
02:36:15.000They're like, this guy's like kind of a genius.
02:36:17.000He starts becoming like an incredible touring performer.
02:37:44.000But the food and booze were flowing by then, the music was playing, and Arbuckle was soon no longer focused on his exhausting work schedule, the burns on his backside, or just who all the guests were.
02:37:57.000What happened in the ensuing hours would play out on the front pages of William Randolph Hearst, there you go again, that motherfucker, national chain of newspapers in lurid headlines before Arbuckle had a chance to tell his side of the story.
02:38:09.000Virginia Rapp was 25 years old when she arrived at the St. Francis Hospital in San Francisco for a Labor Day weekend party.
02:40:07.000The doctor who treated Rapp at the hotel testified, she had told him Arbuckle did not try to sexually assault her, but the prosecutor got the point dismissed as hearsay.
02:41:55.000I mean, it's almost kind of always been fucked.
02:41:56.000This is the best time for comedians, dude, because we, like, it's not as, at least with comics, it's like more, as you said, it's more fraternal.
02:42:04.000I mean, we're like, we're kind of all cool, and there's so much room now.
02:42:52.000And all the other things that are out of your control, the more attention that you spend on them, the less attention you will have towards the thing that you can control.
02:45:03.000The point is, it's fucking Sean Award shows.
02:45:07.000Any time someone calls us artists, I think of a comic asking an audience member, are you taking a poop or a pee as they're walking to the bathroom?
02:46:26.000You also have to remember, when you were first starting out, the idea of being on the road headlining a comedy club would be the craziest fucking dream you could ever imagine.
02:46:39.000I don't have to go to my day job anymore.
02:46:40.000Now I get to fly to Cincinnati and go do stand-up comedy to packed crowds.
02:47:11.000You know, when I was first doing The Road, one of the things that I would always ask, I was like, who's the biggest douchebag that you had to take?
02:50:06.000If they're doing that in a Snapchat message group, which is supposed to be encrypted, and they find the word, I'm going to blow up this plane, terrorist, whatever, ISIS, Taliban, whatever it is.
02:50:17.000They see those words, if those words, like, if they get flagged, that means nothing is private.
02:50:22.000Also, you have to recognize, you want, oh, I want everybody to be safe.
02:50:37.000And if you're the guy, I mean, I don't care how many checks and balances there are, there's gotta be somebody at the end of that stream that could just read and see all your dick pics.
02:50:45.000There's somebody at the end of that stream.
02:50:58.000With the bottleneck of technology being interconnectivity, right?
02:51:02.000And the other problem with that is money.
02:51:05.000Because if money is just ones and zeros, and it gets to the point where when you get to quantum computing where any sort of encryption is really preposterous, and then people have commercial-grade quantum computing in their house, and you could kind of like, there's no code that can't be cracked,
02:51:21.000there's no Bitcoin that can't be stolen, and then what happens?
02:51:55.000Machines, people, I mean like with money and your information, you're putting a lot of trust in either.
02:52:00.000Yeah, you're putting a lot of trust in a lot of different things.
02:52:03.000But also, I'm not a communist, and I'm not a socialist, and I'm definitely pro-capitalist, but I envision a future where all of these things,
02:52:18.000where I think these mechanisms that we have used to achieve power and influence and what Will Storrs had talked about yesterday, the status game, Status.
02:52:30.000All of these things will eventually lead us to some point in the future where...
02:53:00.000I think we're not that far away from that.
02:53:02.000And if you look at what we are today versus what Fatty Arbuckle was, imagine you being friends with Fatty Arbuckle back in the day and William Randolph Hearst but also having a YouTube channel.
02:53:12.000You're like, look, William Randolph Hearst is a piece of shit.
02:54:19.000You get into this for acceptance, right?
02:54:21.000You get into stand-up because you want to—I don't know, maybe in your mind you're like, this wasn't able to be said in my household, so now in my mind I'm telling the truth on stage.
02:55:06.000And I think the best thing to do if you're like a public person like yourself is just like never engage in that and also don't read the comments.
02:55:27.000But it also doesn't mean you have to fucking, while they're throwing fastballs, you have to run across the pitcher and get hit in the head.
02:55:32.000You don't have to actually go out on the field.
02:55:44.000It's not good for the fans either, because if you actually...
02:55:47.000What if they're just having a bad day, man, and they're fucking 18, and they lash out at Sam, or they lash out at Norman, or they lash out at Ari.
02:55:56.000They're not really bad people, but they're writing something, and it's permanent.
02:56:02.000And they said some rude shit, and they're trying to get a response.
02:56:05.000And then you come back with the most scathing response, and you show pictures of their mom and them, and their fat belly, and you shit all over them online.
02:57:29.000I brought a friend of mine when he did our podcast, he's an Asian guy I used to live with, and he like worships Bobby, and Bobby just fucked with him the whole day.
02:57:37.000And my friend Dory, it was so satisfying for him.
02:57:40.000Bobby's like, stop talking to me, fuck you.
02:57:42.000And he was like, that was like the best day of my life.
02:57:45.000He's such a good guy too, because he's like so honest about all of his like weirdness, his flaws, and like, you know, how he thinks about himself and so vulnerable.
02:58:34.000They just don't have a lot of stuff out there.
02:58:36.000He's told me he's scared to to eat the shit to build a new hour and let me tell you like I'm thinking when I burn this next one I am dreading the shit out of this like I I hate starting from scratch.
02:59:02.000There's a few of those guys out there that just need a little gentle nudge to get into the water, and then Bobby Lee will have a new hour in no time.
03:00:21.000There's not one decision that ever gets made that's to the detriment of the show or the comics feelings.
03:00:27.000Most comedy clubs that were made by a comic Or often like a comic who quit and has got some bitterness and you're not that guy.
03:00:34.000So you made it the right way is what I've heard.
03:00:37.000Well, you know, the best aspects of the store were beautiful.
03:00:40.000And there was so much to the store that the mothership will never be able to have because the store had this history, this insane history and this legacy to it of Kinison and Pryor and Hicks started there.
03:10:10.000And also, this is an opportunity for material, because this is going to get cancelled, and I'm going to have a giant bit about this fucking stupid show where they stick dogs on people and made them eat dicks, and the show got cancelled.
03:10:36.000I mean, just the waiting around, the waiting for your phone to ring, like...
03:10:40.000Well, it's better than working in a coal mine.
03:10:42.000Of course, but I just mean psychologically.
03:10:45.000Of course, if you can make a living at it, that's incredible.
03:10:48.000Also, you're dealing with people that are psychologically damaged already, most likely, which is why they need exorbitant amounts of attention, which is why they want to be the fucking star in this new Laura Croft movie.
03:11:16.000But I do think that it's possible for someone, because I definitely think that I came into comedy with a neediness.
03:11:21.000I was just trying to show that I was worthy of something.
03:11:25.000And then, eventually, you get confident, and then you realize, well, it's not like...
03:11:32.000It's not like this can't be turned in a different direction, and then my obsession could now be in getting better at this art, and getting better at this thing that I love, this thing that I enjoy, that's like a really good exchange between audience members and comic.
03:14:20.000This is a guy who knows how to be an assassin, but it's a realistic, especially if you read the book, realistic depiction as far as you can take it of a guy who always wins.
03:14:46.000And a lot of it has to deal with stories that are, like, actually connected to covert operations that happen overseas.
03:14:53.000Because there really are people that are assassins for the CIA that they have to send to these countries.
03:14:59.000You ever in the bookstore though and you see some of these authors and they have like 45 books and you're like, how the fuck did you do that?
03:16:35.000If I was living in a simulation, and I was living in a simulation that was created just a hundred years from now, I don't think I'm capable of discerning.
03:18:02.000And the one that I just sent you, it's like, I just don't understand how you can't stop that.
03:18:07.000This looks almost like that one in the picture I just showed.
03:18:10.000But it's a different image on the first image when you click on it.
03:18:14.000I keep seeing, this thing is like, you know how you just keep seeing the same image over and over again, and you know that's it, this Bitcoin thing.
03:18:21.000So give me some volume on this so I can hear it.
03:20:35.000And they're probably extracting who knows how much money from how many morons.
03:20:39.000It's also, I remember hearing this, not how recently this was, but a couple years ago, that as the rest of the world has been coming online and getting access to broadband, internet, and faster and faster, we've had for like the last 15, 20 years, All the scams that we've been having happen to us are now happening en masse to them,
03:20:56.000like the Nigerian print scam, if you will.
03:20:58.000That's like the most famous one, someone reaching out.
03:21:01.000Now they're using deepfakes to do that, but it's happening to the people that just got the internet.
03:22:03.000And then, you know, you got to meet the person, though.
03:22:06.000I think something happens when people connect with people online where you develop this, like, very bizarre attraction to them because you don't really know them yet in person.
03:22:32.000And by the way, there's a Netflix thing on him, and he comes out looking great, and the guy who catfished him, you're like, this is a psychopath.
03:23:13.000Football is probably the most dangerous sport there is.
03:23:15.000I mean, when you look at the blackouts and the CTE, what offensive linemen have to deal with, I think it's probably the most vicious sport we have.
03:25:36.000The energy of your mind is directly connected to the energy of your body.
03:25:40.000And we want to pretend that it's not because there was like a time of intellectual snobbery where taking care of your body was thought as vain and stupid.
03:26:31.000I mean, look, when we were on the road, we did a tour bus last year a few times, and we'd be out 14 days or whatever at a time.
03:26:36.000Every day we would wake up in a new city, we'd hit a rec center, we'd play basketball, we'd do whatever, we'd steam, we'd shower, we'd get breakfast.
03:26:56.000And you can also, like, give your body more of a chance to be robust while you're traveling and avoid sickness and avoid fatigue and all the shit that fucks with bad shows.
03:27:08.000When you have that feeling backstage, you feel like shit and then you gotta go on stage.
03:27:33.000But then if you're freeballing, which often you're likely to do if you're doing three shows, you want to make it interesting, so you mix up the order.
03:27:40.000And you're like, oh my god, I don't know where I'm going with this.
03:28:17.000Like, you know, so when I'm writing, I can't, it's too much and I can't write, but if I pop an Adderall, I can, like, focus on, I'll read an article, I'll be like, what's funny about this?
03:29:09.000I'm like, man, and it's also because you're coming off the high of murdering, because you're at last hours, you're at your peak, so you're like, this is as good as I get.
03:29:16.000And then it's gone, and you're like, I'm shit.