The Joe Rogan Experience - February 24, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2108 - Tom Green

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3 hours and 7 minutes

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On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe and Tom talk about the time Tom almost died in a car crash, flying in a fighter jet, and what it's like to sleep in a van in the middle of the desert. Also, Tom talks about how he thinks aliens might have seen him the night before and what he's up to now. Joe also talks about his time in the Blue Angels and the time he thought he was in a fight with an alien. This episode was recorded on location in Los Angeles, California. It was edited by Annie-Rose Strasser and edited by Alex Blumberg. Our theme song was written and performed by Micah Vellian and our ad music was written by Mark Phillips. Additional music was done by Ian Dorsch. The show was mixed by Matthew Boll and Matthew Boll. Thanks to our sponsor, VaynerSpeakers. Joe Rogans is a comedian, writer, podcaster, comedian, and podcaster. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, NPR, and many other media outlets. His music is available on SoundCloud, and his music video is also available on YouTube. If you like what you hear, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and we'll get a shoutout on the show on the next episode of the show. Thank you for listening and reviewing! if you're looking for a good time, we'll be looking out for you in next week's episode. We'll see you next week! Please remember to leave us in the next week with a review and a review on iTunes! XOXOdeo, and remember to tell us what you think of the episode you've listened to us on your favorite podcast and what you're listening to this episode! if it's the best thing you've heard this week's podcast is a good one. Thank you! we'll hear about it on the podCast! and we'd really appreciate it on Insta: and other things that you've been listening to it on your feed! or your thoughts about it's a good thing. or what you like it's good enough, or your favorite thing is going through your brain says about it or your brain's best day, or how they're listening about it, or you're having a good day, and they're sending it out to us, too.

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
00:00:11.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:00:13.000 See ya, bro.
00:00:13.000 Yes, you too, you too.
00:00:16.000 And we're up. 0.99
00:00:18.000 What the fuck is happening, Tom? 0.99
00:00:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:00:20.000 Great to be here, man. 0.99
00:00:21.000 My man.
00:00:22.000 Made it back.
00:00:23.000 Made it back.
00:00:24.000 Last time I saw you, I don't know.
00:00:27.000 My eyes might have been a little crossed.
00:00:29.000 Well, last time I saw you was last night.
00:00:31.000 Right.
00:00:32.000 And the night before last night.
00:00:33.000 That's true.
00:00:34.000 That's true.
00:00:34.000 We'd start with that, then.
00:00:36.000 But the last time we saw each other on a podcast, things went a little westward.
00:00:42.000 We got a little intoxicated.
00:00:44.000 So, absolutely.
00:00:47.000 So, you know, the whiskey kept pouring.
00:00:50.000 The whiskey kept pouring.
00:00:51.000 And that was when I had that van.
00:00:53.000 So I still have the van.
00:00:54.000 But at the time, I was kind of living in the van, traveling in the van.
00:00:58.000 So I drove here.
00:00:59.000 This is heavy COVID. This is like the beginning of COVID where it was like weird to be around each other.
00:01:02.000 Like, are we okay?
00:01:03.000 We got tested.
00:01:05.000 Yeah.
00:01:05.000 Right.
00:01:06.000 We did.
00:01:06.000 We're good.
00:01:07.000 Got the COVID test.
00:01:08.000 Yeah.
00:01:08.000 And then I had the van out in the parking lot.
00:01:10.000 And we started drinking the whiskey about midway through the show.
00:01:14.000 And then...
00:01:18.000 The next thing I know, I'm opening my eyes in my van, and it's the next day. 0.99
00:01:26.000 And I'm just like, oh, shit. 0.99
00:01:30.000 What happened on the show? 0.99
00:01:31.000 So, you know, I think maybe the last half hour of the show was such a blur.
00:01:35.000 I don't really quite remember getting in the van, but I had a nice sleep in the parking lot.
00:01:38.000 It was amazing.
00:01:39.000 And then I kind of was a little nervous about it.
00:01:44.000 That's a weird feeling when you...
00:01:46.000 Don't know what you said.
00:01:47.000 Don't know what you said.
00:01:48.000 Yeah.
00:01:48.000 And I called my mom.
00:01:54.000 And everybody seemed, you know, like it was, people thought it was funny, but I mean, I think she was a little concerned about the drinking, the amount of drinking.
00:02:02.000 But no, that was a great time.
00:02:03.000 But I'm not...
00:02:04.000 It was fun!
00:02:05.000 Yeah, it was a great time.
00:02:06.000 It was fun, so we got a little off the rails.
00:02:09.000 You didn't have to go anywhere.
00:02:10.000 Your van was parked.
00:02:12.000 It was awesome.
00:02:13.000 It was awesome.
00:02:13.000 What is it like sleeping in parking lots?
00:02:16.000 That's got to be an odd thing.
00:02:18.000 Well, I rarely did that in the van.
00:02:21.000 It was mostly out in these remote desert parks, like out in Bureau of Land Management land, BLM land in the desert.
00:02:28.000 And I was going around filming and...
00:02:31.000 And so I wasn't, but there was a couple of times I'd sleep in a truck stop because I was wanting to make a lot of distance.
00:02:38.000 So I'd drive until I kind of couldn't keep my eyes open.
00:02:40.000 Then I'd pull over at a truck stop and sleep between.
00:02:42.000 Sketchy proposition, right?
00:02:44.000 You don't know who's around.
00:02:45.000 Yeah.
00:02:46.000 Well, in the desert, it's a little more nerve-wracking because you're all alone out there.
00:02:50.000 And people can see the van in the distance, and it's a pretty nice van.
00:02:54.000 That's when the aliens come, too.
00:02:56.000 You're all alone.
00:02:57.000 I was hoping for that.
00:02:58.000 Nothing?
00:03:00.000 No aliens.
00:03:01.000 I had a nice flyover from...
00:03:03.000 You know, a U.S. fighter jet in the Trona Pinnacles, this amazing part of desert in California.
00:03:10.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:11.000 And I was the only person there, and I could tell this fighter jet saw me, and he just kind of came in right over the van.
00:03:17.000 Oh, wow.
00:03:17.000 Just to say hi?
00:03:18.000 Yeah, and I didn't get my camera out in time.
00:03:21.000 I flew in one of those once.
00:03:23.000 Yeah.
00:03:23.000 With the Blue Angels.
00:03:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:25.000 God, it's insane.
00:03:27.000 When you realize what those jets can do.
00:03:30.000 And I think what they were flying was like an F-A-18.
00:03:34.000 See if that's true.
00:03:35.000 Nice, yeah.
00:03:35.000 I think that's it.
00:03:36.000 That's what we did.
00:03:38.000 I believe they are, actually.
00:03:39.000 I think they have even more capable jets now.
00:03:41.000 Because this is when...
00:03:42.000 I want to say this was like 2003, 2002, something like that.
00:03:48.000 Way back in the day.
00:03:49.000 I have a plaque, you know, that says you flew with the Blue Angels.
00:03:52.000 Pull major G-forces.
00:03:53.000 I've never been in a fighter jet.
00:03:55.000 Yeah, I think I did six and a half Gs, something like that.
00:04:00.000 And I stayed conscious, but then I blacked out when I forgot to do the hooking on a lesser run.
00:04:07.000 Like it was lesser.
00:04:09.000 It was like four G's or something like that.
00:04:11.000 Forgot to do the...
00:04:12.000 What's the...
00:04:12.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:04:13.000 When you're going through high G's, you do a thing called hooking.
00:04:18.000 I think that's how they say it.
00:04:19.000 When you hold on to the joystick, or you can hold on to your straps on your legs if you're the passenger like I was.
00:04:26.000 And you go like this.
00:04:27.000 Hooch! 0.62
00:04:27.000 Hooch! 0.62
00:04:28.000 Hooch! 0.62
00:04:28.000 Hooch! 0.62
00:04:29.000 And you're literally forcing blood into your head to stay conscious.
00:04:33.000 So while we're doing this, that's what you're doing.
00:04:37.000 See how she's doing that?
00:04:38.000 Nice.
00:04:38.000 See how she's doing it?
00:04:39.000 Yeah.
00:04:43.000 That's how you stay conscious.
00:04:45.000 That's how you stay conscious. 1.00
00:04:46.000 You have to force the blood into your fucking brain. 1.00
00:04:49.000 It seems like it's kind of slightly on the edge of not being a perfect system, right? 1.00
00:04:53.000 Well, it's like, you gotta be a bad motherfucker to fly those things. 0.98
00:04:58.000 Those guys were all lifting. 0.99
00:05:00.000 Like, all those Blue Angels piles, they were all jacked.
00:05:03.000 They're all, like, super diesel.
00:05:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:05:05.000 Because these guys are just fucking... 1.00
00:05:07.000 They're wrestling with that thing. 1.00
00:05:09.000 Yeah.
00:05:10.000 Like, it's not as simple as, like, you're...
00:05:12.000 Like, the physical force of going to 6Gs is so extraordinary.
00:05:19.000 You haven't felt anything like it in your life.
00:05:21.000 And these guys can go to, like, 13Gs, some of them.
00:05:24.000 Yeah, I don't think I... It's fucking insane! 0.98
00:05:27.000 I don't think I would want to do that, actually. 0.98
00:05:28.000 I would probably just...
00:05:29.000 I sometimes don't want to do those kinds of things.
00:05:33.000 You don't have to do it.
00:05:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:34.000 It looks amazing, but I just feel like...
00:05:35.000 I'm glad I did it.
00:05:36.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:05:37.000 Yeah, after.
00:05:38.000 Just as a wake-up call, like, you think you understand.
00:05:41.000 You see a jet, and I think of it almost like, well, obviously, like, driving a race car is very difficult, right?
00:05:47.000 But driving a car fast is not that difficult.
00:05:50.000 You know, like if you have a good car, if you buy a new car today that handles really well, if there's no one around, you can go pretty fucking fast and it's really in control.
00:05:58.000 But those things are different, man.
00:06:00.000 It's like there's a physical experience.
00:06:04.000 It's so fast.
00:06:06.000 There's so much power and force behind those things.
00:06:08.000 You got a plane yet?
00:06:09.000 You're getting a plane drift?
00:06:10.000 No.
00:06:13.000 No.
00:06:14.000 Bill Burr pilots. 1.00
00:06:15.000 Bill Burr flies around in a goddamn helicopter. 0.99
00:06:17.000 You took me up around downtown LA. You can fly wherever you want in a helicopter. 1.00
00:06:21.000 Yeah, helicopters are even more of a no-no for me.
00:06:24.000 Because they seem to go down a little too much.
00:06:26.000 I've been in a few.
00:06:27.000 I flew in a Blackhawk through Baghdad and did one of those USO tours.
00:06:32.000 Went to stand up over there back in 2003. How was that?
00:06:36.000 That was a pretty wild experience.
00:06:40.000 It was right before... 0.99
00:06:43.000 It was probably, fortunately for my nervous system, right after the Mission Accomplished banner and right before shit hit the fan with the IEDs. 0.98
00:06:54.000 So I was kind of thinking, oh, it's okay, no big deal.
00:06:57.000 And we were over there in the green zone and we were flying around in the Black Hawk helicopter.
00:07:00.000 One night they said, you want to go out on a night patrol in like a tank?
00:07:04.000 And I was all set to go and then they had to cancel it because of some sort of attack.
00:07:09.000 And then we started hearing there's some...
00:07:28.000 Oh, wow.
00:07:32.000 My dad was military, so that's why I'm rocking the Canadian Army jacket.
00:07:35.000 Canadian Army.
00:07:36.000 We've got an army.
00:07:37.000 I heard.
00:07:38.000 Recently.
00:07:39.000 Recently heard about it.
00:07:41.000 They didn't fight too hard against tyranny.
00:07:44.000 Here we go.
00:07:47.000 No, it's, well, we did, you know, actually, we fought pretty hard against the Germans.
00:07:52.000 I mean the internal.
00:07:53.000 Yeah, oh yeah, I know, I know, I know.
00:07:55.000 Internal government tyranny.
00:07:56.000 Yeah, it's fun.
00:07:57.000 You know, I watch your show all the time, Joe, so it's like I know I'm, and I'm a very proud Canadian.
00:08:02.000 Tom, you're the granddaddy of the show.
00:08:05.000 The granddaddy, well, yeah, I don't know about that, but I mean, first of all, you've always been very nice to, you know, give me a shout-out about those early days of broadcasting in the living room, huh?
00:08:17.000 Well, dude, you're an awesome guy.
00:08:18.000 I've always loved you.
00:08:19.000 You're always cool to be around.
00:08:21.000 And you also, your show in 2007, when I went on your show, that was 100% a major inspiration for me to do this.
00:08:32.000 Because I remember thinking, oh my god, he figured it out.
00:08:34.000 I remember very clearly sitting next to you on that chair going, dude, this is it.
00:08:40.000 This is it.
00:08:41.000 All you have to do is figure out how to make money with this.
00:08:43.000 Yeah, you said that on the show.
00:08:44.000 Yeah.
00:08:44.000 Which was hilarious.
00:08:45.000 And then you figured that out.
00:08:46.000 Yeah.
00:08:49.000 You really figured that out.
00:08:50.000 That's cool. 0.99
00:08:51.000 That was the missing link, damn it. 0.98
00:08:52.000 But no, no, that's amazing. 0.99
00:08:55.000 You know, I remember when we were doing it, I had, you know, I always wanted to do a talk show when I was growing up.
00:09:02.000 I loved Letterman, right?
00:09:03.000 And I'd done my show on...
00:09:05.000 You were great at it.
00:09:06.000 Yeah, I really did enjoy...
00:09:08.000 The first show was more me out in the street doing crazy stuff, and then we did a talk show, which was a little bit more of a nightly show, a little bit more time to talk.
00:09:19.000 I did love doing that.
00:09:21.000 When the show stopped, it was right at the time of technology changing on the web.
00:09:30.000 That was always kind of how I... I was kind of looking at technology, usually, because when I was a kid, I was in a rap group, and it was from technology, right?
00:09:39.000 I remember drum machines came out, and we were listening to Public Enemy, and I'm going, what are these sounds?
00:09:43.000 How do you do that?
00:09:44.000 And then I would go work a summer job.
00:09:46.000 I'd buy a sampler and a Kai S900 sampler and an Atari computer, and I'm making beats in my parents' basement in Ottawa, Canada.
00:09:55.000 No one's making beats in Ottawa, Canada.
00:09:58.000 We started this group called Organized Rhyme, What year is this?
00:10:01.000 This was, well, we started in mid-80s.
00:10:04.000 So this was all pre-internet.
00:10:05.000 Yeah, pre-internet.
00:10:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:07.000 This was high school.
00:10:07.000 So how are you finding out about all this stuff back then?
00:10:10.000 Well, that was, you know, friends at school were listening to rap music.
00:10:15.000 So friends at school were like, hey, you got to check out Public Enemy.
00:10:18.000 You got to check out Boogie Down Productions.
00:10:20.000 I'm like, Boogie Down Productions?
00:10:21.000 Then someone would give you a cassette of like the criminal-minded...
00:10:25.000 Boogie Down Productions, Bridges Over album and you're listening to it and they're rapping about Scott LaRock, their DJ who'd been, you know, unfortunately, you know, passed away in bad circumstances.
00:10:38.000 He was shot and killed.
00:10:39.000 And then you're listening to this sort of, that was the internet to me, you know, was rap music and skateboarding.
00:10:44.000 Thrasher magazine was skateboarding.
00:10:46.000 You'd read stories about skateboarders in California in a magazine. 0.98
00:10:50.000 You'd listen to rap music and hear stories about You know, people who are not in Ottawa, you know, doing cool shit. 0.94
00:10:57.000 And I was kind of wanting to get up on stage and perform. 0.77
00:11:01.000 I was kind of dabbling with stand-up at Yuck Yucks in the comedy club in Ottawa.
00:11:08.000 And so...
00:11:09.000 When you say dabbling?
00:11:11.000 Well, I was doing stand-up.
00:11:12.000 I was doing stand-up, but I never really got to...
00:11:16.000 Yeah.
00:11:33.000 Yeah, the club in Ottawa, Yuck Yucks in Ottawa, still there.
00:11:36.000 It's moved, but it's owned by Howard Wagman.
00:11:41.000 Yuck Yucks is kind of like the improv of Canada.
00:11:43.000 It's a chain all across the country.
00:11:46.000 Mark Breslin, I'm sure you know Mark.
00:11:48.000 He started it.
00:11:52.000 It was wild because, I don't know, it was something about The 80s, the 90s, before the internet, right?
00:12:04.000 You'd go down to a comedy club and you'd find out about stuff just through word of mouth, like the rap music and like comedy.
00:12:12.000 So I would go down to the comedy club and I remember Norm MacDonald would come through and he was probably 25 years old, right?
00:12:18.000 And I'm 16 in the audience.
00:12:20.000 And then I got to become this huge fan of Norm and he was...
00:12:26.000 Norm.
00:12:26.000 But back then, there wasn't a lot of people doing stand-up like Norm.
00:12:31.000 Like, there wasn't this sort of angle of sort of this absurdity to it, this sort of...
00:12:35.000 It was more of a structured, down-the-middle way of doing stand-up back then.
00:12:41.000 And so Norm was this sort of, you know...
00:12:43.000 It was a curveball.
00:12:45.000 Yeah, this sort of curveball, and we just couldn't get enough of it.
00:12:47.000 So every time we was in town, we'd be down there.
00:12:49.000 But Howard Wagman told me this story about Norm, and the first time he came down to do stand-up at Yuck Yucks in Ottawa, and he got off stage and he was...
00:13:02.000 Disappointed in how it went.
00:13:03.000 Norm was.
00:13:04.000 He said, I'm never doing this again.
00:13:05.000 He walked down the street.
00:13:06.000 Howard Wagman chased him down Spark Street in Ottawa and said, no, that was great.
00:13:10.000 You're coming back.
00:13:10.000 And he made him come back.
00:13:11.000 And the rest is history.
00:13:13.000 Norm was a legitimate genius.
00:13:15.000 Yeah.
00:13:15.000 Like a genius of life.
00:13:17.000 Like a rare specimen.
00:13:22.000 Like genius in not just that his comedy was brilliant, but just like, look at this.
00:13:28.000 I've never seen this before.
00:13:30.000 Mm-hmm.
00:13:30.000 Like a totally different kind of human.
00:13:32.000 Yeah.
00:13:33.000 You know?
00:13:34.000 And genuinely always funny.
00:13:38.000 Like every conversation was funny.
00:13:40.000 He was just funny.
00:13:41.000 I was on a plane with him accidentally twice.
00:13:44.000 Nice.
00:13:44.000 Twice.
00:13:44.000 That must have been amazing.
00:13:45.000 Twice, on two separate occasions.
00:13:47.000 Just totally random.
00:13:49.000 We sat next to each other and we're like, whoa, this is crazy!
00:13:52.000 And the last one, it was so funny, because he was telling me about how he quit smoking.
00:13:58.000 Yeah, I quit smoking.
00:14:00.000 It turns out it's real bad for you.
00:14:03.000 This whole thing about quitting smoking, and we're talking about it, like how hard was it to quit, this whole thing.
00:14:08.000 The moment we land, he walks into the gift shop, buys a pack of cigarettes, and he's lighting them before he gets out the door.
00:14:17.000 I go, I thought you quit.
00:14:18.000 He goes, I did, but all that talking about it made me want to smoke.
00:14:21.000 Yeah, it's probably all an elaborate setup, right?
00:14:24.000 He probably was planning it the whole way.
00:14:27.000 Who knows?
00:14:27.000 He probably doesn't even smoke.
00:14:28.000 He was just doing his gag.
00:14:29.000 No, he was...
00:14:30.000 Well, he was into gambling, too, right?
00:14:33.000 So, like, people that have those kind of, like, impulse control issues, like, gambling is a big impulsive thing. 0.98
00:14:38.000 Like, I'm gonna fucking bet. 0.84
00:14:39.000 I'm gonna bet on it. 0.99
00:14:39.000 Let's put the bet. 0.99
00:14:40.000 Put it back.
00:14:41.000 All of it.
00:14:42.000 All of it.
00:14:42.000 That's rough.
00:14:43.000 You know, that kind of wild, crazy sports gambling, too?
00:14:45.000 That's not a good addiction to have, especially when you have money, right?
00:14:48.000 That's a scary addiction, man.
00:14:50.000 I watched Dana White gamble.
00:14:51.000 I watched Dana White play blackjack, and he was down $600,000. 1.00
00:14:55.000 And my fucking hands were sweating. 0.98
00:14:57.000 I was going, what are you guys doing? 0.99
00:15:01.000 That's real money.
00:15:02.000 This is so crazy.
00:15:04.000 She does it every night. 1.00
00:15:05.000 Yeah.
00:15:05.000 He does it constantly.
00:15:07.000 There's people that love it.
00:15:08.000 They love it.
00:15:09.000 They love the action.
00:15:10.000 It's thrilling.
00:15:11.000 For me, fortunately, I've never liked numbers.
00:15:15.000 Math was never something I enjoyed.
00:15:17.000 So when it comes to blackjack, you're going, I'm doing math in my head, and I get very uncomfortable.
00:15:21.000 So I go, I'm not going to be good at this.
00:15:24.000 That's a great reason to not gamble.
00:15:26.000 You hate math class.
00:15:27.000 Yeah, I just figured I'm not going to be good at this because I can't even really...
00:15:29.000 Add up what I'm supposed to be doing here quickly, so I'm just going to just sit on the side.
00:15:33.000 Plus, I'm cheap.
00:15:34.000 I don't want to lose money.
00:15:35.000 I'm not a math person either.
00:15:37.000 It's a concentration thing.
00:15:39.000 It's like if you concentrated on math, really got good at the basics of it, and then really started getting into more complex mathematics, it'd probably be very fun, probably be very exciting.
00:15:52.000 But the problem is I never concentrated.
00:15:55.000 In high school at all.
00:15:57.000 I didn't pay attention to it.
00:15:58.000 So I'm so removed. 1.00
00:16:00.000 Like if people start talking about math, like complex shit. 0.99
00:16:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:16:05.000 I checked out at Long Division.
00:16:06.000 Long Division I checked out.
00:16:08.000 Like are calculators available?
00:16:10.000 They're pretty much everywhere, right?
00:16:11.000 Right.
00:16:12.000 And aren't there like an unlimited supply of batteries?
00:16:14.000 I'm like, I'm out.
00:16:15.000 This is what I'm wondering, you know, now with our phones and our Google and everything, we don't have to learn any of that anymore.
00:16:22.000 I don't know anyone's phone number.
00:16:23.000 We don't really have to learn anything anymore.
00:16:24.000 I know, like, Eddie Bravo's phone number.
00:16:27.000 I know my wife's phone number. 0.99
00:16:29.000 I might know two other numbers.
00:16:31.000 Yeah.
00:16:32.000 When I was a kid, I had a hundred numbers in my head.
00:16:34.000 Yeah.
00:16:35.000 You can call your grandmother.
00:16:36.000 I still remember my phone number from when I was a kid.
00:16:39.000 Yeah, you could call your friends.
00:16:40.000 I could say it now, but that person probably wouldn't like that very much.
00:16:43.000 I got my phone number memorized from when I was in high school.
00:16:46.000 It was our first phone number.
00:16:48.000 I couldn't believe we had a phone number.
00:16:49.000 I'm like, wow.
00:16:52.000 Maybe we had phone numbers before, but that was the first one that I remembered.
00:16:56.000 And then that was the first Answer Machines, too.
00:16:58.000 Right.
00:16:59.000 That was wild.
00:17:00.000 Remember, if you're out and you're trying to meet somebody and they're going to meet you and then they don't show up and you want to figure out where they are, you'd go to a payphone, put a quarter in it, call your phone and then put your code in and check your answering machine or your voicemail from the mall.
00:17:14.000 And you thought you were living in the future.
00:17:16.000 And then they'd leave a message on your answering machine to tell you, hey, sorry, I'm going to be a little late.
00:17:20.000 And then you hang up and then it cost you a quarter.
00:17:22.000 Yeah.
00:17:23.000 Yeah, that's how crazy everything's changed in such a small amount of time.
00:17:28.000 When you left the house, you were gone. 0.99
00:17:30.000 No one knew where the fuck you were. 1.00
00:17:32.000 Absolutely. 0.99
00:17:33.000 There was no snap map.
00:17:36.000 Kids today, they look at each other on Snapchat maps where they all know where they are at any moment in time.
00:17:43.000 There's no shenanigans.
00:17:45.000 No, I was thinking about like how when I was a kid, you know, we would be able to very easily manipulate, you know, the situation with my parents and say, okay, I'm going over.
00:17:55.000 Right.
00:17:55.000 I'm going to Bobby's house.
00:17:57.000 Go drinking and skateboarding all night.
00:17:58.000 Yeah.
00:17:59.000 No, you know, that was better like that, you know.
00:18:01.000 These kids today, they're tracked.
00:18:04.000 Everyone's tracked.
00:18:05.000 It's not your parents, it's the government.
00:18:07.000 And we're not going to be able to really get rid of it now, too.
00:18:09.000 That's the thing.
00:18:10.000 There's no way this is going to turn back.
00:18:12.000 No one's ever going to decide this has gone too far.
00:18:14.000 It's just going to keep escalating and getting worse.
00:18:17.000 And my eyes are getting bad because I find myself addicted to the phone as much as I know that it's happening.
00:18:25.000 I'll get on that TikTok and I just start scrolling through stuff and then Oh, shit, like two hours just went by, you know, and my eyes are getting blurry, and it's really kind of starting to piss me off, to be honest with you.
00:18:39.000 Yeah, for me, it's Instagram.
00:18:41.000 I don't have TikTok, but I use the Instagram reels. 0.99
00:18:43.000 God damn it. 0.98
00:18:44.000 It's so nuts, like one after the other. 0.99
00:18:46.000 It's so interesting watching this mad scramble of people trying to figure out a new way to get your attention, whether it's through, like, shooting a bow and arrow with your feet over your head at balloons.
00:18:59.000 You ever seen those gals that do that? 1.00
00:19:01.000 Sounds good. 0.56
00:19:02.000 They stand on their hands, and they have a bow in their feet, and they have their legs all the way over the top of their head, and they draw the bow back with their feet and shoot it.
00:19:10.000 I saw another thing that's kind of like that, but there was no bow and arrow involved, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:15.000 This is a thing.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, that sounds good.
00:19:17.000 That sounds good.
00:19:17.000 Are they wearing clothing as well?
00:19:20.000 No!
00:19:20.000 Why would they be wearing clothing?
00:19:21.000 Oh, okay, cool.
00:19:22.000 They wear like bikinis. 1.00
00:19:23.000 They're hot.
00:19:25.000 Most gals with that kind of mobility with your body, you're probably pretty hot. 1.00
00:19:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:32.000 How could you not have a hot body if you could do that? 0.99
00:19:34.000 If you could get your butt over the top of your head and have your legs pull a bow back and then aim it and shoot it? 0.99
00:19:40.000 What? 1.00
00:19:40.000 I certainly can't do that. 1.00
00:19:42.000 Who the fuck can do that? 0.99
00:19:44.000 What percentage of the population can do that? 0.99
00:19:48.000 See, and this is kind of, I think, Where we started with us was, you know, how did I find out about rap music?
00:19:56.000 How did I find out about Norm?
00:19:58.000 You know, we had to use a certain sense of creativity and we had to go out of our way to find out about stuff.
00:20:05.000 Right.
00:20:05.000 You know, and so it, you know, sounding like some couple of old guys here.
00:20:12.000 We are a couple of old guys.
00:20:13.000 Complaining about how the world was better before.
00:20:16.000 I don't think the world was better before.
00:20:18.000 I don't think that's true.
00:20:19.000 There's some aspects of it that I think forced us to be just a little bit more creative and think out of the box, or at least in a different way, because you'd go find some drum machine, or you'd go down to the Little Comedy Club in Ottawa, and stand-up comedy wasn't a mainstream thing then.
00:20:37.000 It was pretty big, but not in Ottawa.
00:20:39.000 It was sort of almost like you felt like you were going somewhere that you weren't supposed to go.
00:20:42.000 You'd go down in the basement.
00:20:43.000 Yeah.
00:20:44.000 He's 16 years old.
00:20:45.000 I'm in a bar, you know, and there's some guy on stage and they're not talking about Norm Macdonald on television yet.
00:20:51.000 He hadn't gone to SNL yet.
00:20:53.000 I remember I'd see him and my friends would see him and then we'd go to school and we'd tell our friends, you gotta go see this guy, Norm Macdonald.
00:21:01.000 He'd come three times a year and every time he'd come we'd be there and it was just like this sort of myth.
00:21:05.000 It was a mythology to it, you know?
00:21:07.000 And then all of a sudden we heard he moved to Los Angeles because he was writing for Roseanne, you know, and we all heard about this and it was this sort of All the amateur comics, the kids up there doing it.
00:21:21.000 Well, I guess I was the kid doing that.
00:21:23.000 Everyone else was kind of in their 20s and 30s, but everybody was just kind of like...
00:21:27.000 There's hope.
00:21:28.000 We can get out of Ottawa, man!
00:21:30.000 Yeah, something out there.
00:21:33.000 And then SNL and everything.
00:21:34.000 It was just amazing to watch him do that.
00:21:37.000 I was having a good chat with Adam at the club about Norm because he was, of course, famously his sidekick on his show.
00:21:45.000 So it was such a shame to see Norm disappear like that.
00:21:50.000 He was talking about coming out here, too.
00:21:52.000 Mm-hmm.
00:21:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:53.000 So, but it's, you know, so much has happened since I was here last.
00:21:57.000 I got a lot of stuff I wanted to...
00:21:58.000 First of all, before I start talking about me, though, I just wanted to say thanks for having me at the club this weekend.
00:22:05.000 My pleasure.
00:22:05.000 I'm so stoked.
00:22:06.000 The club is amazing.
00:22:09.000 And I've been hanging out there for the last two nights, and I came in a little early and wanted to hang out and just...
00:22:16.000 Settle in and man, it's just such a vibe there.
00:22:20.000 It's just such a perfect, perfect comedy club.
00:22:23.000 You did such an amazing job.
00:22:24.000 You're the only guy that brings his dog everywhere that's not annoying.
00:22:27.000 Maybe ever.
00:22:29.000 Maybe ever.
00:22:30.000 And everybody loves Charlie.
00:22:32.000 Yeah, everybody loves Charlie.
00:22:34.000 Charlie's in here with us now.
00:22:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:36.000 Charlie's a sweetie.
00:22:38.000 I got Charlie right before I came here the last time.
00:22:43.000 She's named after the John Steinbeck novel, Travels with Charlie, because I was out in the van, and that book's about Steinbeck in the 60s, made a camper van out of a pickup truck, and he drove across America, and he wrote a book about America and its differences.
00:22:59.000 It's called Travels with Charlie in Search of America.
00:23:03.000 And I got Charlie at a rescue called Thrive, is the name of the rescue, which is actually run by Jimmy Durante's daughter in San Diego, the entertainer Jimmy Durante, who...
00:23:14.000 It's like a ranch in San Diego.
00:23:18.000 And they bring these dogs in from the Bahamas and Mexico, called potcake dogs. 0.99
00:23:24.000 Charlie, anyways, we went out in the desert and...
00:23:31.000 Everybody loves Charlie, like you said.
00:23:33.000 There's Charlie.
00:23:34.000 Charlie looks like she was just taking a nap. 1.00
00:23:36.000 She's like, what the fuck are you waking me up for, Dad? 1.00
00:23:38.000 I was just taking a nap. 0.99
00:23:40.000 The funniest thing is...
00:23:41.000 Charlie actually goes on stage with you, we should tell people.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, she just chills out up there. 0.95
00:23:45.000 I just kind of take her...
00:23:48.000 All that noise.
00:23:50.000 She's kind of used to it.
00:23:52.000 But isn't that strange?
00:23:53.000 What a strange experience for a dog.
00:23:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:56.000 To be in the Bahamas, and then all of a sudden she's on stage with Tom Green.
00:24:01.000 That's right.
00:24:02.000 She left the Bahamas. 0.99
00:24:04.000 She's just cheering, and she's just sitting there like, what the fuck is this like? 0.99
00:24:07.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:24:07.000 I'd look at her sometimes and wonder. 0.99
00:24:09.000 She left at five weeks old, the Bahamas.
00:24:11.000 So that was a good thing.
00:24:12.000 She got out of there at five weeks old.
00:24:13.000 And then was in San Diego.
00:24:15.000 She got adopted by somebody else for like three months, basically.
00:24:20.000 And then they couldn't keep her.
00:24:21.000 I got her at three months.
00:24:23.000 And it's funny.
00:24:26.000 She grows up in the Bahamas.
00:24:27.000 Then she goes to California.
00:24:29.000 And then I moved back to Canada since I was last here.
00:24:33.000 And I left Los Angeles.
00:24:35.000 Following in your footsteps, the exodus continues.
00:24:38.000 It wasn't just me, man.
00:24:40.000 I keep getting labeled as a Pied Piper, but come on, everybody was leaving.
00:24:45.000 Yeah.
00:24:46.000 I've got to say, though, There was a lot of factors to change my entire life.
00:24:55.000 I sold my house around the time right after I was here.
00:24:59.000 And that was the house that you did the Tom Green show for?
00:25:02.000 That I owned for 18 years, that I did the WeboVision show in.
00:25:05.000 WeboVision we called it.
00:25:06.000 Why don't you do a show now?
00:25:08.000 So I'm actually building a podcast studio in my barn.
00:25:12.000 It's in an unheated century barn.
00:25:17.000 Are you going to heat it?
00:25:18.000 Nope, not going to heat it.
00:25:19.000 No.
00:25:20.000 Are you going to have conversations where you're freezing it?
00:25:22.000 Yeah, we're going to wear really warm jackets.
00:25:24.000 Really?
00:25:24.000 That's one thing that's cool about Canada.
00:25:26.000 People talk about the cold and how... 0.99
00:25:29.000 You know, fucking cold it is up there. 0.92
00:25:31.000 But, like, the cool thing about the cold when you kind of get acclimated to it is you can kind of regulate your temperature like you wear a really warm Arctic jacket in the barn while you're doing the podcast. 0.98
00:25:43.000 We'll probably move it in at some point.
00:25:45.000 Also, you can die outside. 0.97
00:25:47.000 You can die, yeah.
00:25:48.000 It's a different thing.
00:25:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:50.000 It's a different thing.
00:25:51.000 And it makes more resilient people.
00:25:53.000 I think it makes better people.
00:25:55.000 I really do.
00:25:56.000 I was thinking about how you do...
00:25:58.000 There's the barn, yeah. 1.00
00:25:59.000 You're freezing your dick off, son. 1.00
00:26:01.000 First of all... 1.00
00:26:02.000 That's my dad.
00:26:02.000 That's my dad there, yeah.
00:26:04.000 You know what?
00:26:05.000 You should get sponsored by one of those...
00:26:09.000 Like heater bodysuit companies?
00:26:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:26:11.000 For deer hunters when they sit in those blinds?
00:26:14.000 Yeah, that's cool.
00:26:15.000 Deer hunters when they sit in tree stands? 0.98
00:26:17.000 You know how fucking cold you get? 0.98
00:26:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:26:19.000 See, if it's cold out, that's one thing.
00:26:21.000 But if it's cold out and you're not moving, that's another thing.
00:26:24.000 That's another thing.
00:26:25.000 You could be... 0.99
00:26:25.000 It could be fucking zero degrees, but if you're hiking, you're fine. 0.99
00:26:29.000 Well, I wear these... 0.98
00:26:29.000 We're actually talking to a sponsor right now. 0.98
00:26:32.000 They might sponsor it.
00:26:34.000 They're this clothing company, Baffin, and they make the warmest jackets, right?
00:26:38.000 So it's like...
00:26:39.000 You can really regulate your temperature, right?
00:26:43.000 And that's the thing, like, if you know how to do that, because it's been a lifestyle change.
00:26:50.000 I got this farm.
00:26:51.000 I'm on a farm now that I live on, and Basically, I'm going to live there now for the rest of my life.
00:26:58.000 I know it.
00:26:58.000 I'm never going to leave this place.
00:26:59.000 I love it so much.
00:27:00.000 That's awesome.
00:27:01.000 It's a wilderness area.
00:27:03.000 I enjoy your videos from there.
00:27:04.000 It looks like you're really enjoying it.
00:27:06.000 I am really loving it.
00:27:08.000 It's just such a peace of mind to get up in the morning.
00:27:14.000 And I've got this mule.
00:27:17.000 And I got my strap there on the side.
00:27:20.000 Yeah, I got my mule.
00:27:22.000 And this is a whole new thing, Joe.
00:27:24.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:27:25.000 First of all, I didn't know anything about horses and mules, but I got a mule and a donkey and some chickens.
00:27:33.000 So a mule is a cross between a donkey and a horse, correct?
00:27:37.000 Yes.
00:27:37.000 And I did not know that a year and a half ago.
00:27:40.000 They're supposedly like the most resilient...
00:27:43.000 Animals for like riding trails and stuff?
00:27:46.000 So mules are...
00:27:47.000 So yeah, it's sort of all...
00:27:50.000 It all started with I found this property and this farm and I wanted to be outside and then there was these two old barns there and I would look at these barns and I'd say they were kind of calling for something to be put in them.
00:28:01.000 They were 100 years old.
00:28:02.000 There was stuff stored in them and so some friends of mine and I, we kind of cleaned up the barns and we...
00:28:10.000 I got this mule and this donkey and so...
00:28:13.000 Initially, the idea was I thought a mule would be kind of funny because they got bigger ears and they're kind of – I was thinking three amigos.
00:28:21.000 I was thinking a donkey.
00:28:23.000 I was thinking a mule was a donkey.
00:28:24.000 I didn't even really know that much about it.
00:28:29.000 And I started looking for a mule that you could ride.
00:28:33.000 And there's not that many mules in Canada.
00:28:35.000 They're much more of a southwestern, you know, American thing.
00:28:38.000 You know, George Washington brought mules to America.
00:28:42.000 It was a big part of, you know, them settling America. 0.92
00:28:46.000 They would use them for farming.
00:28:47.000 He brought them in?
00:28:48.000 Yeah, he was instrumental in being a big part of getting mules here.
00:28:51.000 They would use them for harvesting crops and doing all the work around the farms and stuff.
00:28:58.000 They've also been used in war a lot.
00:29:00.000 They've been used in military.
00:29:02.000 A lot of the pioneers preferred them to horses.
00:29:05.000 Yeah, they're extremely strong and they're very, very smart.
00:29:09.000 They can go longer without water.
00:29:11.000 Yeah, they use less water, less food.
00:29:14.000 My friend Clay Newcomb is actually a mule expert.
00:29:16.000 Okay.
00:29:17.000 He's been on the podcast before.
00:29:18.000 Oh, cool.
00:29:19.000 He talked about fancy mules and like how you pick a mule and training a mule.
00:29:24.000 Oh, I follow him actually.
00:29:25.000 I follow Clay.
00:29:27.000 Clay's interesting.
00:29:28.000 He's got a podcast called the Bear Grease Podcast.
00:29:32.000 A lot of it is about bear hunting in Arkansas.
00:29:35.000 Oh, nice.
00:29:36.000 Just interesting like outdoor stories.
00:29:40.000 Like he's a very, very interesting guy, but he just knows a ton about mules.
00:29:44.000 Well, the thing that's so crazy about them is they're extremely smart to a point that it's, you know, people say stubborn as a mule.
00:29:53.000 It's not really stubbornness.
00:29:54.000 What is it?
00:29:55.000 It's self-preservation.
00:29:57.000 So they figure out, basically, I'm riding this animal now.
00:30:02.000 She's a very big mule, as you can see. 0.99
00:30:04.000 She's a very big mule. 1.00
00:30:05.000 She's called 16'3 hands is the way you measure horses and mules, and she's as tall as they get. 1.00
00:30:10.000 Her mother was... 1.00
00:30:13.000 A horse.
00:30:14.000 So a Percheron paint mix.
00:30:18.000 So Percheron's a workhorse, almost like a Clydesdale.
00:30:21.000 So she gets her size from that, and her father's a mammoth donkey.
00:30:24.000 And she's 10 years old. 0.84
00:30:26.000 A mammoth donkey?
00:30:27.000 Yeah, a mammoth.
00:30:28.000 What a great name.
00:30:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:30:30.000 It's definitely created a very large, strong...
00:30:38.000 Serious animal.
00:30:38.000 I want to see a picture of a mammoth donkey.
00:30:41.000 Yeah.
00:30:41.000 How big are they?
00:30:42.000 There we go, yeah.
00:30:43.000 Yeah, so you can sort of see... 1.00
00:30:44.000 Whoa, look at the size of that fucking thing. 1.00
00:30:46.000 That's a donkey? 1.00
00:30:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:30:47.000 Holy shit, dude. 0.99
00:30:49.000 And you can ride those too, so... 1.00
00:30:52.000 But are donkeys harder, between 900 and 1,200 pounds, are donkeys harder to train than mules?
00:31:01.000 I'm not sure of the answer to that.
00:31:02.000 I'm not sure.
00:31:03.000 But I know that mules are easier to train than horses, so I would assume, because they learn...
00:31:07.000 And mules are sterile.
00:31:09.000 They're sterile, yeah.
00:31:10.000 So a...
00:31:12.000 It's a hybrid animal and it can't breed.
00:31:15.000 Isn't that fascinating that a male of one species can breed with the male of another species?
00:31:21.000 They make an offspring.
00:31:22.000 It's alive. 1.00
00:31:23.000 It has testicles. 1.00
00:31:25.000 It has sex drive. 1.00
00:31:26.000 It has everything. 0.99
00:31:26.000 Can't breed. 0.99
00:31:27.000 Isn't that weird?
00:31:29.000 So the horse has...
00:31:30.000 Let me get this right.
00:31:32.000 I've been trying to learn as much about it as possible because I'm riding this thing and I don't want to die because you can fall off it and it's not fun falling off.
00:31:40.000 I've fallen off a couple of times.
00:31:41.000 Have you really?
00:31:42.000 Yeah, it wasn't too bad.
00:31:43.000 By yourself?
00:31:44.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 Out there in the middle of nowhere?
00:31:45.000 Yeah, it was my own fault.
00:31:47.000 I was streaming on Instagram and not paying attention.
00:31:50.000 That's good for beginners.
00:31:52.000 Don't let go of the reins and play with your phone while you're riding on a 1,400-pound mule.
00:31:56.000 Fanny's 1,400 pounds. 1.00
00:31:58.000 That's fucking huge, man. 1.00
00:32:00.000 I guess a horse has 64 chromosomes and a donkey has 62. And so when they breed, they take one of – it ends up that the donkey – the mule has 63 chromosomes, 0.99
00:32:16.000 which is not an even number and therefore makes it sterile.
00:32:19.000 So this is what I'm trying to – something kind of complicated like that. 0.93
00:32:23.000 Isn't it fascinating though that nature figured out a way to stop everything from fucking everything and just getting it pregnant? 0.97
00:32:31.000 Isn't it like nature's like we've got to have a system in here because that's untenable. 0.94
00:32:37.000 That's going to lead to chaos.
00:32:39.000 Like if humans, imagine.
00:32:42.000 Can you imagine?
00:32:42.000 If humans could get other things pregnant, everything would be a hybrid of a human.
00:32:47.000 Like everything.
00:32:48.000 Yeah, like a lobster-human hybrid.
00:32:51.000 Somebody would do that.
00:32:52.000 Island filled with turtle people.
00:32:54.000 People walking around with exoskeletons going, hey, this ain't so bad. 0.99
00:32:57.000 You could be on the island going, I can't believe someone fucked a turtle. 0.99
00:33:00.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:33:01.000 And there's gonna be this guy, like, with a turtle shell on. 1.00
00:33:03.000 Fuck you! 1.00
00:33:04.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:33:04.000 You know, he's gonna be mad at you. 1.00
00:33:05.000 Like, I'm just saying. 1.00
00:33:06.000 Because people are insane. 0.99
00:33:08.000 Insane. 1.00
00:33:08.000 I mean, somebody has probably fucked a turtle. 1.00
00:33:11.000 100% someone's fucked a turtle. 0.99
00:33:13.000 Right? 0.99
00:33:13.000 If you had to bet everything you own... 0.99
00:33:15.000 Sure.
00:33:16.000 100%. 1.00
00:33:16.000 A guy somewhere has been hopped up on some fucking Vietnamese street meth. 1.00
00:33:22.000 Right, right. 1.00
00:33:23.000 Fucked a turtle. 0.99
00:33:24.000 Of course, yeah. 1.00
00:33:24.000 Probably American. 1.00
00:33:26.000 Yeah.
00:33:26.000 Probably an American guy from the Southwest.
00:33:29.000 Over there hiding from the law or something, and he's messed up and he fucked a turtle. 1.00
00:33:33.000 Yeah, people fucked everything. 0.99
00:33:34.000 But no result because of the nature has made these protections, thankfully. 0.99
00:33:39.000 The wildest hybrid, of course, is the liger.
00:33:41.000 Yeah.
00:33:42.000 Because they miss the gene that regulates size.
00:33:45.000 Yeah.
00:33:46.000 They don't have the same gene that, like, a tiger and a lion does.
00:33:50.000 I've seen those.
00:33:51.000 I forget which one.
00:33:52.000 How does it work?
00:33:53.000 Is it a male lion and a female tiger, or a male tiger and a female lion?
00:33:57.000 I forget which one it is, but in that combination, when they make a liger, they just keep growing.
00:34:02.000 They're so big.
00:34:04.000 Yeah, I've looked at these on the internet.
00:34:06.000 You know, the thing is, I guess a tiger and a lion and a donkey and a horse are close enough together in evolution to be able to...
00:34:15.000 To do this.
00:34:17.000 And there's, I guess, no animal that is close enough to us to be able to come close enough.
00:34:22.000 Because, you know, they've done experiments with other primates.
00:34:24.000 Or maybe we just haven't. 0.54
00:34:25.000 Maybe just nobody's fucked the right thing yet to figure it out. 0.97
00:34:28.000 I bet someone just pulled it off in China or Russia or something like that. 0.98
00:34:31.000 They probably got some chimp-human hybrid somewhere. 0.99
00:34:34.000 I've heard sort of internet conspiracy theories that there was a Russian experiment that went awry or something like this, but...
00:34:42.000 There was this one very strange case of a chimpanzee that they call humanzy, and this chimpanzee had very human-like features, and it lived with a family.
00:34:52.000 I forget if it was a family of researchers, I forget the story, but they always end tragically, because those things, ultimately, as they get older, they want to be the boss. 0.99
00:35:01.000 It's a big male, and they're gonna just fuck you up. 0.99
00:35:04.000 They're gonna bite your fingers off, or bite your friend's fingers. 1.00
00:35:07.000 It's always something like that.
00:35:08.000 They always do something horribly, horribly violent, eventually.
00:35:11.000 But this one that they had, they had him for a long time, and he looked like a human.
00:35:16.000 Yeah.
00:35:16.000 Look, it looked weird.
00:35:19.000 And he stood upright a lot, and he wore clothes. 1.00
00:35:22.000 He's got a big old donkey dick. 1.00
00:35:23.000 Look at that donkey dick. 1.00
00:35:24.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00
00:35:27.000 The Humanzy of Orange Park.
00:35:29.000 First of all, Humanzy is such a great name.
00:35:31.000 I mean, I almost wish it had worked just for that reason alone.
00:35:34.000 Humanzy.
00:35:35.000 I mean, there'd be Humanzy's going around. 1.00
00:35:36.000 But, yeah, I often kind of have little...
00:35:41.000 There's some weird, shocking pictures of it.
00:35:45.000 Like that one in the upper right-hand corner.
00:35:47.000 And they're so strong.
00:35:48.000 Click on that one.
00:35:49.000 Look at its face.
00:35:51.000 It's got an odd face.
00:35:53.000 And there's some pictures I think that are probably doctored that made it a little more human-looking to confuse people.
00:36:00.000 But the thing, like, as it got older, see if you can find the older pictures of it.
00:36:05.000 It looked real weird, man.
00:36:09.000 But it was just a chimp. 0.98
00:36:10.000 It was just a chimp that had been taught to behave that way. 1.00
00:36:16.000 Look at how he's walking. 0.98
00:36:17.000 He's walking like a chimp. 1.00
00:36:18.000 He's not walking like a human.
00:36:19.000 Look at the shoulders and the arms. 0.89
00:36:20.000 That's a chimp. 1.00
00:36:22.000 I sometimes think about the close calls I've had with A couple of times with animals where I wasn't really giving them the – not like just understanding the power they had.
00:36:32.000 Like I had a chimpanzee on a show I did once on my TV show back in the day.
00:36:37.000 And, you know, it was trained.
00:36:41.000 Chimpanzee, but massive.
00:36:43.000 And, you know, I remember after the show, I just said, hey, can I hang out with the chimpanzees?
00:36:48.000 So it came out and I was just sitting out within the parking lot for about half an hour, just me and this chimpanzee right in front of me, looking right in my eyes.
00:36:54.000 It was playing with the buttons on my shirt.
00:36:55.000 And, you know, the trainer was 20 feet away.
00:36:58.000 And I just thought it was so the cutest thing.
00:37:01.000 And then, you know, a few years later, I read about the chimpanzee ripping that, you know, Killing people and how violent they are.
00:37:07.000 And you go, man, that is, you know, I had a macaw at one point, which I actually had to get rid of, you know, big red parrot, you know, macaw.
00:37:18.000 And I got it in when it was...
00:37:22.000 I'm 13 months old.
00:37:24.000 And this was my biggest disappointment, I'd say, with a pet because I had gotten this macaw.
00:37:31.000 It's named Rex.
00:37:32.000 He was on the web show for a period of time.
00:37:34.000 It was after you were on that time.
00:37:37.000 And I really love this thing.
00:37:38.000 And I love animals.
00:37:39.000 And I was so fascinated by it because I was realizing, oh, this is a pet that I'm going to have for the rest of my life.
00:37:46.000 And I was all dedicated to this.
00:37:49.000 And I was really kind of somewhat moved by the fact that I was going to be having this beautiful macaw for the rest of my life.
00:37:55.000 And it would pick my teeth and it would stick its beak in my mouth and literally like just kind of chew on my ear and all of this kind of stuff. 0.99
00:38:06.000 And then all of a sudden, when it got to be about 13 years old, it just became a real asshole. 0.99
00:38:13.000 Like, it really, really changed. 0.99
00:38:15.000 It had been going from this little baby to...
00:38:17.000 I couldn't put my hand in the cage without it really biting hard.
00:38:22.000 And I almost took my finger off.
00:38:24.000 I had to go in the cage to clean the cage, and I couldn't pick it up anymore.
00:38:28.000 And I actually had to find it a new home.
00:38:31.000 Do you think you just didn't like being in a cage?
00:38:34.000 I'm sure it didn't.
00:38:35.000 I wouldn't like it myself, you know?
00:38:37.000 And that feels bad, too.
00:38:40.000 That's a thing I don't really like about having...
00:38:41.000 Yeah, you're a prison warden.
00:38:42.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:38:44.000 I started to feel really bad.
00:38:45.000 So I took it back to the bird place where I'd gotten it, and they said to me, oh, yeah, we don't...
00:38:50.000 It's been 13 years later, you know?
00:38:52.000 I've been spending 75 bucks a month on walnuts for 13 years.
00:38:57.000 These eat a lot of walnuts.
00:38:59.000 And then they say, oh yeah, we don't sell macaws anymore because when they get to be 13, they change and they become really, really mean.
00:39:07.000 I'm like, well, you could have told me that 13 years ago.
00:39:10.000 So it's like there's an internal clock?
00:39:12.000 Yeah.
00:39:12.000 So it's like a puberty thing?
00:39:13.000 Like a puberty thing, yeah.
00:39:15.000 And so I feel bad about it.
00:39:16.000 I got her a better home.
00:39:17.000 That's why it's scary to be in front of a chimp. 1.00
00:39:20.000 Because the chimp, they can just decide. 1.00
00:39:23.000 I just want to fuck this guy up. 1.00
00:39:25.000 I have these moments where I think about the time when that macaw would have its beak in my mouth months before it could have ripped my face apart, sitting with that. 1.00
00:39:32.000 But the fanny, this mule, and I have the donkey as well, who was her companion for her, named Kia.
00:39:39.000 She was a two-year-old donkey. 0.99
00:39:43.000 And the donkey will live to be 50, potentially.
00:39:46.000 And the fanny is a big animal, so she could live to be 30, 35 years old. 0.97
00:39:51.000 And so she's 10 now.
00:39:53.000 So it's a big responsibility.
00:39:55.000 And I really kind of consider them now, after having them just for a short time, kind of family.
00:40:01.000 It's an amazing thing.
00:40:03.000 But I think the thing that's...
00:40:06.000 Most interesting about a mule, we won't talk about mules for the whole show, but they are so smart that they figure you out.
00:40:17.000 So I'm new to this.
00:40:19.000 So when I first got her, I was given one day of training on how to ride a horse.
00:40:25.000 So I learned how to saddle her up. 0.71
00:40:27.000 I learned how to get up on this thing.
00:40:29.000 You pull the rein, you look where you want to go, you push with your foot opposite of the side you want to turn.
00:40:35.000 There's a sort of little rhythm to that.
00:40:36.000 And it went great for about a month, but then she started sort of figuring out that I was sort of uncertain in what I was doing.
00:40:44.000 She started to understand that I didn't know what I was doing.
00:40:49.000 And so she starts testing me, right?
00:40:52.000 And I don't necessarily realize that's what's going on.
00:40:55.000 Like how so?
00:41:00.000 So I'd go to take the saddle.
00:41:02.000 It's a big saddle.
00:41:03.000 You got to put it up on her back.
00:41:04.000 You put a saddle pad on and you got to put the saddle on and then she would move into me and kind of push me. 1.00
00:41:09.000 And I didn't really know how to prevent that because she's 1400 pounds. 1.00
00:41:11.000 So I'd have to kind of lead her around, try to get her back in position.
00:41:14.000 It became this weird sort of dance of me running around trying to get the saddle on.
00:41:19.000 I'd eventually get it on.
00:41:23.000 She ends up losing all respect for me because I'm letting her sort of be the leader, right?
00:41:33.000 And so Mule really wants to...
00:41:39.000 Me to be the leader.
00:41:40.000 And it's hard for me to be the leader at first because I'm uncertain.
00:41:44.000 So they sense uncertainty.
00:41:48.000 So when I'm riding her, there's wolves at my place in the woods.
00:41:54.000 Oh, fun.
00:41:55.000 Yeah.
00:41:56.000 I got a story about that too.
00:41:58.000 And there's wolves there.
00:41:59.000 I was showing Jamie before the show.
00:42:01.000 There's video of them on my trail cams.
00:42:03.000 But she sees them.
00:42:11.000 It's not because obviously they're not going to attack her and me.
00:42:14.000 She's a giant mule. 1.00
00:42:15.000 But she thinks that.
00:42:17.000 So over time, she started to not want to go in that direction.
00:42:21.000 She stopped wanting to turn left.
00:42:22.000 And so what would happen is I would...
00:42:26.000 I started to realize she didn't want to go there.
00:42:27.000 So every time I wanted to go there, I would get nervous.
00:42:30.000 I would feel uncertain.
00:42:31.000 Oh, she's not going to want to go there.
00:42:32.000 She would sense that I was nervous and it would double down and then she wouldn't go in there.
00:42:36.000 So I had to kind of get into this real sort of a psychological retraining, kind of a mule intervention from the people that raised her.
00:42:47.000 I have so many questions.
00:42:48.000 Hold on.
00:42:49.000 Yeah, it's really wild.
00:42:51.000 It's really interesting, the intricacy of how you figure this out.
00:42:56.000 Now, did you have any training before you got a mule?
00:43:02.000 So, she was owned by a single owner in northern Canada in a place called Thunder Bay, which is about 18 hours' drive north of me.
00:43:13.000 Way colder up there.
00:43:15.000 She's like in Club Med now in southern Canada. 0.98
00:43:18.000 She's probably loving it.
00:43:20.000 And her owners were Kaya and Lisa, who breed mules.
00:43:25.000 They're called Twister Mules. 0.99
00:43:26.000 Did you get any training?
00:43:27.000 They drove her down, and we spent about three days Okay.
00:43:31.000 And they showed me how to saddle it up and they talked to me about it.
00:43:34.000 And, you know, I learned as much as one can learn in three days.
00:43:39.000 You know, there's the basics, right?
00:43:40.000 Right.
00:43:40.000 There's the basics.
00:43:41.000 Did you do a lot of it when they were there by yourself?
00:43:44.000 Like they just told you how to do it and you walked over and did it?
00:43:47.000 They spent time with me for about three days.
00:43:49.000 But this is kind of...
00:43:51.000 They're telling me I'm doing quite well because I actually am able to handle this animal now, but it's been an interesting journey since June.
00:43:58.000 I got her in June because at first it's – the very first sort of on-the-surface way that you ride a mule is you look where you want to go.
00:44:17.000 Lightly pull the rein.
00:44:20.000 If you want to go left, you pull the left rein lightly.
00:44:24.000 If that doesn't work, but you might not even have to pull the rein.
00:44:27.000 You could just look where you want to go.
00:44:28.000 And they feel your body shifting.
00:44:30.000 They sense your intent.
00:44:33.000 And you have to look in that direction.
00:44:35.000 Like Avatar when you link up with the dragon.
00:44:37.000 It's like telepathy for sure.
00:44:40.000 It really is.
00:44:40.000 And you feel it and it's such a really cool feeling when you really get into the pocket with it.
00:44:44.000 So then you pull lightly.
00:44:46.000 Then you do a little push with your foot.
00:44:47.000 And so that's all sort of very physical stuff.
00:44:54.000 And it worked fine for a while.
00:44:57.000 But then I didn't quite understand the overall psychological sort of hierarchy that gets created and a trust level that's created between the mule and myself – The more I screwed up, geez,
00:45:12.000 just even in the barnyard, the more I let her get in my space. 1.00
00:45:15.000 You don't ever want to let a mule get in your space, like gets in your space, a very sort of a...
00:45:24.000 Easy way to control that is you can just put your hands up to her eyes like that. 1.00
00:45:29.000 You don't even have to touch her.
00:45:31.000 And then they back off.
00:45:32.000 I didn't know that, right?
00:45:33.000 So I was kind of like, I'm pushing it.
00:45:35.000 Oh, boy.
00:45:37.000 Trying to stop.
00:45:38.000 And it realizes how small you are in comparison.
00:45:40.000 And it realizes how small I am.
00:45:41.000 And it realizes I don't know what I'm doing.
00:45:42.000 And it loses all respect.
00:45:44.000 And so you start to kind of...
00:45:48.000 So once you start to learn a little bit deeper about how to handle those...
00:45:52.000 Just on the ground with her, then once you get up on her, she has a little bit more respect and is more apt to listen to you.
00:45:59.000 But it was really interesting because they came back.
00:46:04.000 They're really great.
00:46:06.000 They're trying to bring more mules into Canada because they love mules.
00:46:09.000 And they...
00:46:13.000 You know, there is something very different and special about mules because of their intelligence, and so it's really interesting.
00:46:18.000 They came back and spent some more time with me, and we went out on the trail, and Fannie doesn't like ATVs, okay?
00:46:30.000 So I've got this Polaris side-by-side that I drive around the property on.
00:46:33.000 It's a noisy ATV, four-wheel vehicle thing.
00:46:39.000 And they were driving ahead of me to kind of instruct me, and I'm following along.
00:46:43.000 And we're coming up the trail, and they stopped.
00:46:46.000 And as we approach the ATV, it's parked on the trail.
00:46:49.000 There's a space on the side.
00:46:50.000 I'm going to ride around the trail.
00:46:51.000 But in my head, I'm thinking, oh, Fanny's not going to want to go around this ATV. And we get up there and I try to turn around the ATV by looking, pulling the rein, pushing my leg.
00:47:00.000 She just stops.
00:47:01.000 And when she stops and when she decides she doesn't want to go, this isn't like a little trail riding, you know, carnival horse.
00:47:09.000 She gets going and...
00:47:12.000 We'll turn and really kind of get quite aggressive in a way, which is kind of exciting, though, I've got to tell you.
00:47:19.000 And I was a skateboarder.
00:47:20.000 I got pretty good balance, so it was kind of interesting.
00:47:24.000 But the thing that was wild about it, so then I go, well, she's not going to want to go around the ATV, I say to Kaya and Lisa.
00:47:33.000 And they say, no, no, well, it's not that she doesn't want to go around the ATV. It's she knows that you think she doesn't want to go around the ATV. You have to think in your head that she wants to go around the ATV. What?
00:47:46.000 Really?
00:47:47.000 Yeah, because when you're subconsciously Whether we know it or not, as human beings, you know, we didn't always have language, right?
00:47:56.000 Right.
00:47:57.000 Someone invented language at some point.
00:47:59.000 Before that, we were just kind of, there's all this nonverbal communication and energy, right?
00:48:03.000 So, you get up to the ATV, and if I'm thinking, oh, she's not going around the ATV. Oh, look, my whole body just went like that.
00:48:11.000 You know, I sighed.
00:48:12.000 I felt like a sense of defeat, right?
00:48:14.000 She feels that just through her saddle.
00:48:16.000 It's not total, like, voodoo.
00:48:19.000 She feels like...
00:48:20.000 Yeah, but there might be a little bit of voodoo. 0.95
00:48:22.000 Possibly as well.
00:48:23.000 I mean, there's a magic to it.
00:48:25.000 It seems like you can't attribute all that to body movement.
00:48:26.000 She feels it, and she's so smart.
00:48:29.000 So a horse doesn't necessarily sense that as easily as a mule, quite a bit less easily.
00:48:35.000 So that's why people say mules are stubborn, because they're sensing all of these little...
00:48:39.000 I think we're good to go.
00:48:58.000 If a horse is walking along the edge of a cliff and a snake jumps out, the horse might be apt to just jump the other way off the cliff, killing itself.
00:49:10.000 Whereas a mule will instantly...
00:49:13.000 Identify.
00:49:14.000 Cliff that way.
00:49:15.000 Snake that way. 0.93
00:49:15.000 Danger both ways. 0.93
00:49:16.000 Mule will kill the snake.
00:49:19.000 It'll stomp out the snake. 1.00
00:49:20.000 Or at least won't jump off the cliff.
00:49:23.000 That's way better.
00:49:24.000 Yeah, better.
00:49:25.000 I think we should just all have mules.
00:49:27.000 All have mules.
00:49:27.000 You should get a mule.
00:49:29.000 You should get a mule.
00:49:29.000 I definitely would not have the time to be training a mule.
00:49:34.000 It seems like that's...
00:49:35.000 Here's my question, though.
00:49:36.000 This is the other question I've got to remember.
00:49:38.000 Why would you think that the wolves would not attack the mule?
00:49:42.000 Well, it's not...
00:49:44.000 First of all...
00:49:45.000 Because, like, if she's scared of the wolves, I think she should be scared of the wolves.
00:49:51.000 You know, donkeys and mules, especially donkeys, and mules have donkeys, so they're actually used a lot as livestock protection animals because they'll stomp out a coyote or a wolf.
00:50:03.000 So a lot of farmers get them, put them in with their sheep...
00:50:05.000 And they'll actually protect the herd.
00:50:08.000 That's awesome.
00:50:27.000 So they mostly kill like deer and...
00:50:29.000 Deer and smaller stuff.
00:50:31.000 They don't try for elk or anything like that.
00:50:33.000 Because the big gray wolves will take out elk.
00:50:36.000 Yeah, I'm sure they...
00:50:37.000 They take out moose.
00:50:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:50:39.000 Moose are so big, man.
00:50:41.000 For a wolf to take out a moose, that's crazy.
00:50:43.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:44.000 These are my trail cams at my place.
00:50:46.000 Oh, wow.
00:50:46.000 Dropping a deuce right there on your trail cam staring you in the eye.
00:50:50.000 That's an alpha move right there, son.
00:50:52.000 I guarantee that's the alpha.
00:50:53.000 Yeah.
00:50:53.000 He knows.
00:50:54.000 He knows you got that trail camera. 1.00
00:50:56.000 He's like, Tom Green, check this out, bitch. 1.00
00:50:58.000 Shit, right in front of your camera. 1.00
00:51:00.000 So it's, you know, it's the only way to know 100% for certain that they're wolves and not a hybrid. 0.99
00:51:05.000 I know you know all about this, Joe, but like the coy wolves is to do a DNA test.
00:51:11.000 Yeah.
00:51:12.000 Coy wolf is kind of a misnomer, you know, because a coyote is a wolf.
00:51:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:51:17.000 Yeah.
00:51:18.000 The reason why the coyote spread so far across the country...
00:51:22.000 It's because they have like a built-in mechanism to protect them from gray wolves because gray wolves would kill the coyotes.
00:51:30.000 Yeah.
00:51:30.000 Whereas the red wolves in the East Coast would breed with the coyotes and that's where you get the coy wolf.
00:51:37.000 I think they're viable.
00:51:39.000 I think when they breed they can breed.
00:51:41.000 Oh yeah.
00:51:41.000 I don't think they're like a donkey or like a mule rather.
00:51:45.000 You mean a coyote and a wolf?
00:51:47.000 I think when the, like, the coy wolves, whatever they call them, coy wolves, I think they're viable.
00:51:52.000 I think they have babies.
00:51:53.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:51:54.000 No, they are, for sure, yeah.
00:51:55.000 Yeah, because it's not really, it's not different.
00:51:59.000 Kind of like two different kind of dogs or something.
00:52:00.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:52:02.000 Yeah, because I've been...
00:52:06.000 I'm getting some information about this from a wolf researcher up who lives near me and he has sort of put out some trail cams and we've actually laid out some fur traps that can get a little bit of their fur and we're going to send it for a DNA sample to find out exactly the percentage of DNA that wolf to coyote that we have here.
00:52:30.000 Yeah, it's kind of, I don't know, you live out in the wilderness, you know, you find these kinds of things are, I find it quite interesting to just kind of really kind of dive into it deep and try to figure it out.
00:52:41.000 Oh, it's fascinating.
00:52:41.000 You're out of there in the real wild.
00:52:44.000 You're in the wild where there's packs of predators in your neighborhood.
00:52:48.000 And I wish I had bear footage right now, but it's not online, but this year I put out my trail cams and I got like I'd say a little more than a half dozen distinct different bears on that exact trail, which is on my property right by my house.
00:53:07.000 Brown bear or black bear?
00:53:08.000 Black bear, yeah.
00:53:09.000 We don't have grizzlies out east, so it's just in Canada even.
00:53:12.000 Not yet.
00:53:13.000 Not yet.
00:53:14.000 The liberals will try to reintroduce them.
00:53:16.000 You need more things to be scared of.
00:53:19.000 We're talking about bringing grizzlies back to California.
00:53:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:23.000 I want you to come to Canada, Joe.
00:53:25.000 I know you haven't come to Canada lately, but you've got to come to Canada.
00:53:30.000 Because here's the thing.
00:53:31.000 I watch the show all the time, so I know your feelings about Canada, but here's the thing.
00:53:38.000 Everybody loves you in Canada.
00:53:40.000 I'm coming down here.
00:53:42.000 Everybody's so stoked that I'm here.
00:53:44.000 I love Canadians.
00:53:46.000 I just hate their government.
00:53:47.000 Is that Pierre?
00:53:48.000 How do you say his last name?
00:53:49.000 Polivier? 0.68
00:53:50.000 Yeah, well, it's French.
00:53:52.000 Well, I don't think he's French, but the name's French.
00:53:54.000 Pierre Poliev.
00:53:55.000 Poliev.
00:53:55.000 Sort of a weird R, silent R. Yeah, it's a strange, as you see it written down, it's very difficult to remember.
00:54:03.000 That guy makes so much more sense.
00:54:07.000 He's so common sense and just calling out all the nonsense that's been done under this administration.
00:54:14.000 It's just so sad to watch.
00:54:16.000 So this is the thing that I kind of, I guess, just wanted to throw out there, which is It's not unlike here in the U.S., right?
00:54:25.000 You've got Biden as president now, right?
00:54:27.000 And then you've got essentially a Democrat.
00:54:30.000 We actually call our Democrats the liberals, right?
00:54:32.000 That's how unabashed we are liberal up there.
00:54:35.000 We actually call the party the liberal party.
00:54:37.000 It's not a bad word up there, right?
00:54:38.000 They actually call them the liberals.
00:54:39.000 And the other ones are conservatives.
00:54:40.000 And conservatives, liberals and conservatives.
00:54:42.000 But it's the same thing, you know, like half the country...
00:54:47.000 Yeah.
00:54:49.000 Yeah.
00:54:51.000 Yeah.
00:55:03.000 It's like here. 1.00
00:55:04.000 It's the same bullshit that's here. 0.99
00:55:06.000 Everybody's arguing about issues, important issues. 1.00
00:55:12.000 It's being reinforced, you know, through these algorithms.
00:55:17.000 People get mad about it and then they start arguing.
00:55:20.000 You know, like I sometimes kind of go, wouldn't it be interesting if Pierre Polyev won the next election, right?
00:55:26.000 Because then all of a sudden we'd have a conservative government up there and let's say Biden won down here.
00:55:31.000 You got conservative government up there and then Tucker Carlson might be going up to Canada talking about how great we are all of a sudden, you know?
00:55:37.000 Because it just can switch on a dime, you know?
00:55:39.000 It could.
00:55:40.000 It could go back.
00:55:41.000 And it has before.
00:55:41.000 I've had...
00:55:42.000 You know, there's been my lifetime.
00:55:46.000 Joe Clark was the first conservative prime minister.
00:55:48.000 Then there was Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper was pretty recent.
00:55:53.000 But anyways, I don't like talking politics, but I did bring something about Canada that I love.
00:55:58.000 It's a good thing.
00:56:02.000 I'm trying not to talk politics too much because it's like... 0.80
00:56:05.000 It's gross.
00:56:06.000 Everybody gets all mad, you know?
00:56:08.000 I kind of think, like, wouldn't it be cool if the new thing became people start to realize that the division is almost worse than what we're arguing about?
00:56:21.000 Well, the division is absolutely worse than what we're arguing about.
00:56:25.000 Most people want good things.
00:56:26.000 Oh, maple syrup.
00:56:27.000 This is for you and your family.
00:56:29.000 And I brought one for us, too, just to try.
00:56:31.000 This is the freshest, best Canadian maple syrup made by my friends, the Con Boys. 0.99
00:56:37.000 Ryan and Jason, shout out to Ryan and Jason, George and Darlene.
00:56:40.000 And they make this on their property.
00:56:42.000 They have thousands of maple trees tapped.
00:56:46.000 And this is a family-run business.
00:56:49.000 They've been doing this for hundreds of years.
00:56:51.000 That is a lot of work.
00:56:53.000 Yeah, it's a whole...
00:56:54.000 Maple syrup, like making...
00:56:56.000 I've watched people make maple syrup on YouTube.
00:56:58.000 It's a lot of work.
00:57:00.000 Yeah.
00:57:00.000 It's crazy how much work is involved.
00:57:02.000 And it's really kind of incredible to go see how they do it because they've built these, like, I can't describe it properly, but reverse osmosis machines where they have tubes coming, you know, with the sap from all the...
00:57:18.000 Starts flowing.
00:57:19.000 Comes through these tubes from all through the woods on their property.
00:57:22.000 It runs out to their barn where they have these machines that do something called reverse osmosis.
00:57:28.000 I don't know what it is doing exactly, but they have to do it.
00:57:30.000 And then it goes into this giant vat with fires, with wood-burned fires, and they boil the sap down until, you know, it becomes thicker and there's more sugar content.
00:57:39.000 And then you have this delicious syrup that I... Brought a couple of...
00:57:42.000 It's literally the blood of trees that you pour on pancakes.
00:57:46.000 It is.
00:57:47.000 And you know what?
00:57:47.000 Are we going to drink it?
00:57:48.000 Like in shot glasses?
00:57:49.000 I just thought, as opposed to drinking whiskey until we're on the floor this time.
00:57:54.000 I never made it to the floor, sir.
00:57:56.000 You made it.
00:57:57.000 I maintain the level of motion and the ability to conversate.
00:58:04.000 Oh my gosh, okay.
00:58:06.000 Dude, that's diabetes in a shot glass.
00:58:08.000 Yeah, we'll just do a shot, but I want you to see.
00:58:10.000 This is real maple syrup, Canadian maple syrup.
00:58:12.000 It's Convoy maple syrup.
00:58:14.000 They're my friends.
00:58:16.000 They're the best, best friends that you'd ever want. 0.99
00:58:19.000 And it's not your manufactured processed shit, you know? 0.99
00:58:24.000 Cheers. 1.00
00:58:24.000 Cheers. 1.00
00:58:25.000 Do you have to do it like a shot?
00:58:26.000 No.
00:58:26.000 Yeah, you can.
00:58:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:58:29.000 Oh, my God.
00:58:30.000 I can't drink this whole thing.
00:58:31.000 Yeah.
00:58:32.000 It's really good, though.
00:58:33.000 Pour it on some pancakes.
00:58:34.000 It's delicious.
00:58:34.000 Yeah.
00:58:35.000 It just makes you think, like, how much sugar are you getting from pancakes with a pile of maple syrup?
00:58:40.000 You're getting a fuckton of sugar. 0.55
00:58:42.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99
00:58:42.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:58:43.000 Like, how much sugar is in...
00:58:45.000 What is a shot glass?
00:58:46.000 How many ounces is that?
00:58:48.000 I should know this.
00:58:49.000 One ounce.
00:58:49.000 Let's just see how much sugar is in one ounce of maple syrup.
00:58:55.000 Yeah.
00:58:55.000 Yeah.
00:58:57.000 God, how could you drink that?
00:58:58.000 Yeah, no, you don't really drink maple syrup, right?
00:59:00.000 We're just doing it for a gag, but pour it on your pancakes. 1.00
00:59:03.000 It's amazing how good it tastes on your pancakes.
00:59:05.000 No, it's good in coffee.
00:59:06.000 Put it in your coffee in the morning.
00:59:07.000 So I keep a big jug of it.
00:59:11.000 17 grams in a shot glass.
00:59:13.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:59:13.000 And I guarantee you, if I'm having pancakes, I am drowning those bitches. 1.00
00:59:18.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99
00:59:18.000 So I'll get you more whenever you need some. 0.99
00:59:21.000 It's the best.
00:59:22.000 It's different than...
00:59:22.000 Waffles with that on it?
00:59:23.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:24.000 Lots of butter?
00:59:26.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:26.000 Up to 20. Up to 20. Okay, 20. So if I'm having pancakes, I'm having 120 at least.
00:59:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:59:35.000 I'm pouring a bunch of maple syrup on that shit. 1.00
00:59:38.000 Six ounces? 1.00
00:59:39.000 Yeah, easy.
00:59:40.000 Easy six ounces.
00:59:41.000 Like a glass of it.
00:59:43.000 Yeah.
00:59:43.000 I'm getting in between the stack.
00:59:45.000 Mm-hmm.
00:59:45.000 Pouring a little in there.
00:59:46.000 It's just a nice little boost, a little energy boost, you know?
00:59:49.000 It's for like five minutes.
00:59:51.000 Yeah.
00:59:51.000 Then you're in a coma for the rest of the day.
00:59:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:55.000 Absolutely.
00:59:56.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:59:56.000 But I guess if you're out there on your farm fucking throwing hay around all day, exhausted, right? 0.98
01:00:04.000 I did this summer in August. 0.98
01:00:07.000 I have some fields with hay.
01:00:10.000 We cut the fields.
01:00:13.000 And I have some local farmers that help me cut the fields to square bales.
01:00:19.000 So you're really farming.
01:00:20.000 Yeah.
01:00:21.000 Farming for real, for real.
01:00:22.000 Farming hay for my animals.
01:00:26.000 Yeah.
01:00:26.000 I had 580 bales of hay off the property this year.
01:00:29.000 Wow.
01:00:30.000 And we had to lift it all, carry it all onto a hay wagon.
01:00:34.000 See, because...
01:00:36.000 I'm going to figure out a way to do it a little differently next year, but normally the farmers that have done my property for years, they've been doing it with these big circle round bales, but I wanted to get square bales this year because it's easier to handle for the horses, the mules and the donkey every day.
01:00:51.000 So every day I go to the barn, I pick up a bale, feed about a bale and a half of hay a day.
01:00:59.000 It's cool because from May, June till about the end of September, you don't even have to feed them.
01:01:08.000 They're just out in the pasture eating grass, which I often think about when you think about vegetarians and you go, how do you put on mussel with just vegetables?
01:01:18.000 And you can look at this giant animal, all it's doing is eating grass all day and they're massive.
01:01:24.000 But yeah, so I've got to figure out a better way to get it in the barn this year because some of my friends...
01:01:28.000 They have to eat it all day long.
01:01:31.000 That's the difference between eating meat and eating grass.
01:01:33.000 If you watch predators, predators eat and then they sleep all day.
01:01:38.000 You watch a donkey. 1.00
01:01:40.000 Those motherfuckers are just eating all day long. 1.00
01:01:43.000 They have to eat all day long. 1.00
01:01:44.000 They're always eating.
01:01:47.000 Because there's not a lot of protein in that food.
01:01:49.000 It's got to break down in their weird digestive tract.
01:01:53.000 It's undulate digestive tract. 0.98
01:01:56.000 So Fanny and Kia come from a pasture that had, you know, 20 other animals in it to my place where they're just there by themselves with the whole field to themselves.
01:02:06.000 So Fanny was putting on some weight last summer.
01:02:08.000 I have to now kind of monitor how much she's out in the pasture. 0.97
01:02:11.000 I should correct myself. 1.00
01:02:12.000 Undulates are cows and shit. 1.00
01:02:14.000 I'm thinking of like... 1.00
01:02:15.000 I'm thinking of cows.
01:02:16.000 Right.
01:02:16.000 The weird stomachs and stuff.
01:02:18.000 I'm not exactly sure how the stomachs work on these.
01:02:20.000 I don't know how those equines. 0.94
01:02:22.000 But I know that to think that you could get that jacked eating vegetables is ridiculous. 0.97
01:02:29.000 Right. 0.85
01:02:29.000 That's what I was kind of thinking. 0.85
01:02:31.000 But vegans always like to make that comparison.
01:02:34.000 Yeah.
01:02:34.000 Like the gorillas.
01:02:35.000 They eat nothing but vegetables.
01:02:37.000 Totally different body.
01:02:39.000 They're also not humans.
01:02:40.000 Yeah, they're not human beings. 1.00
01:02:42.000 It doesn't mean if you ate what a fucking horse eats. 1.00
01:02:46.000 You'd look like a horse, you dumbass. 1.00
01:02:48.000 You're not a horse. 1.00
01:02:49.000 And also, do you know how annoying that would be to have to eat grass all day?
01:02:54.000 It doesn't sound like a blast.
01:02:57.000 Not a lot of variety there.
01:02:59.000 I think about that.
01:03:00.000 I have cookies for them.
01:03:02.000 I have a vitamin mix that I give them every day.
01:03:08.000 Is variation to their diet good, though?
01:03:11.000 For some animals, when you...
01:03:13.000 For instance, apples.
01:03:15.000 I have apple trees at the property.
01:03:18.000 That's one of the places she loves to walk towards the apple tree.
01:03:20.000 There's apples on the ground.
01:03:22.000 You can feel her pulling towards the apple tree.
01:03:25.000 So, but, you know, you don't want her to eat, you know, a bunch of apples because that can create acid in their stomach and they can get sick from that. 1.00
01:03:33.000 Yeah, I was wondering that.
01:03:34.000 Like, what happens to them in the wild, though, if they find a bunch of apples?
01:03:37.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
01:03:38.000 Yeah, I'm not sure. 0.99
01:03:39.000 Do they get fucked up? 0.98
01:03:40.000 I'm not sure if they, I don't know the answer to that, you know, but maybe they kind of somehow self-regulate when they're left to their own. 0.99
01:03:48.000 But, you know, you can feed them carrots.
01:03:50.000 And one thing, I haven't done this yet, but I understand that they really like, I was just told, because I'm actually thinking, what kind of variety can I give the ladies, you know? 0.96
01:03:58.000 So they really like a frozen watermelon to be tossed into there.
01:04:00.000 Oh, no kidding.
01:04:02.000 Bears like that, too.
01:04:03.000 Oh, yeah?
01:04:03.000 Yeah.
01:04:04.000 We went to a grizzly bear...
01:04:07.000 I guess it's just like a conservation center where they have these enormous – it's in Montana.
01:04:14.000 They have – they're like captive but it's really an enormous construction thing. 0.97
01:04:22.000 And the bears have like swimming pools and shit. 0.93
01:04:24.000 And they would roll them out, these frozen watermelons. 0.99
01:04:29.000 And watch them bite through a frozen watermelon will scare the living fuck out of you. 0.95
01:04:33.000 Right. 0.99
01:04:34.000 Because they go through it like it's nothing.
01:04:35.000 A grizzly does that.
01:04:36.000 I've seen hippopotamus do it on YouTube, but a grizzly does that too.
01:04:39.000 I think most of the time the hippos are doing it, it's not with a frozen one.
01:04:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:43.000 But they were saying that this bear's favorite treat is frozen watermelon.
01:04:47.000 So you give them a frozen watermelon.
01:04:48.000 You just go through it like it's a grape.
01:04:50.000 See, grizzlies are terrifying.
01:04:53.000 I admit that I am also actually, probably, it's probably not really a warranted or fear, but I am nervous about these black bears, you know, on the property.
01:05:06.000 You should be nervous.
01:05:07.000 What are you talking about?
01:05:08.000 They do attack people occasionally.
01:05:09.000 They will attack you.
01:05:10.000 And if black bears attack you, they're attacking you to eat you.
01:05:14.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:15.000 It's a little bit different.
01:05:16.000 Statistically, the odds are in my favor.
01:05:17.000 I think it's not as, like, grizzlies, they've attacked a lot of people.
01:05:21.000 I think black bears maybe only attack, like, you know, one person a year or something like that.
01:05:25.000 They attack people.
01:05:26.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:26.000 I mean, there's a guy who got killed over by Rutgers in New Jersey.
01:05:30.000 He was killed by a black bear.
01:05:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:32.000 And there was a friend of a buddy of mine's went hunting for his very first trip.
01:05:37.000 He was in his tent at night and a 500 pound predatory black bear tried to remove him from the tent.
01:05:45.000 And his friend shot the bear and accidentally shot his friend in the wrist.
01:05:51.000 So he got shot in the wrist with a rifle.
01:05:53.000 The bear gets shot.
01:05:55.000 The bear runs off after it gets shot and then they don't I think they recovered it.
01:06:00.000 I think it's dead.
01:06:01.000 But imagine your first night ever camping in a tent and a black bear tries to pull you out and eat you.
01:06:07.000 Yeah.
01:06:08.000 So I think sometimes people bring food in their tent.
01:06:11.000 That's one common mistake. 1.00
01:06:13.000 Yeah, you're food, bitch. 1.00
01:06:15.000 You're food. 1.00
01:06:16.000 You're food.
01:06:16.000 You're food in the tent.
01:06:17.000 You're pigs in a blanket. 0.99
01:06:18.000 But if you bring in like, you know, you should really... 0.99
01:06:20.000 That is one thing that is why they go in the tent a lot.
01:06:22.000 They smell, you know, someone brought their sandwich in the tent or whatever.
01:06:25.000 That's true.
01:06:25.000 But, yeah, no, I mean, look, I'm right there with you.
01:06:31.000 There's something about it, though, that, well, you know when you're out there in nature and you kind of, you're sort of natural...
01:06:43.000 Instincts kick in.
01:06:44.000 You feel it.
01:06:46.000 And the fact that there is something unpredictable and that you don't understand out there is kind of exciting.
01:06:55.000 You know, like the fact that there is...
01:06:59.000 I'm not really truly expecting to get attacked by a bear, but your senses are on alert.
01:07:03.000 You're listening into the woods.
01:07:04.000 You know they're there.
01:07:05.000 You know they know you're there and they've probably left.
01:07:09.000 But maybe this is the one time where they're walking along with their cub and you get in the wrong position at the wrong time.
01:07:15.000 And so often when I go for a walk, I have bear spray on me.
01:07:19.000 I sometimes have a rifle on me.
01:07:22.000 I don't carry it with me every time I leave the house, but I've got a few rifles.
01:07:28.000 I've not really been a hunter in my life, but so many people around me are in the country.
01:07:37.000 Everybody hunts.
01:07:38.000 How much land do you have?
01:07:43.000 150 acres, so it's kind of...
01:07:45.000 You can certainly hunt on that.
01:07:46.000 Yeah, and there's deer, and it's quite something that I never really expected to kind of live like that, but it's really kind of interesting.
01:07:56.000 And then it backs on to lots of, you know, thousands and thousands of acres of protected wilderness, so they, you know, it's...
01:08:04.000 Are you allowed to hunt back there?
01:08:06.000 Yeah, and on my property too.
01:08:08.000 What is the tag allocation like?
01:08:11.000 Do you get landowner tags?
01:08:13.000 Do you get tags because you're a resident of the area?
01:08:15.000 You still have to get a hunting license.
01:08:18.000 In Canada, if you want to get a rifle, first of all, it's completely different than in Texas.
01:08:25.000 You can't just go buy one.
01:08:27.000 It's like getting your driver's license essentially.
01:08:29.000 You have to go take You have to write a test, and you have to pass it, and you have to do a course, a safety course, and then you have to send that into the RCMP, the Canadian Mounties, right?
01:08:43.000 They review it, and then a couple months later, you get your...
01:08:48.000 Non-restricted firearms license, which allows you to go buy a rifle.
01:08:52.000 I've been collecting lever-action rifles, you know, so I've got just, you know...
01:08:56.000 That's cool.
01:08:56.000 Relatively new to this, but, you know, when I was out in the desert, I had a shotgun with me.
01:09:01.000 I had a hunting license when I was in New Mexico.
01:09:03.000 I was trying to hunt some quail.
01:09:04.000 Never saw a bird, though, so it was, you know, I was hunting, but I never saw anything, so I didn't really do...
01:09:08.000 I was still hunting, but I never saw anything, so...
01:09:11.000 But, yeah, so it's...
01:09:14.000 That's why...
01:09:17.000 I'm trying to think of what I want to tell you here, Joe.
01:09:19.000 That's why I think I really would love you to come up to Canada sometime and visit, maybe, and come up and do some shows up there.
01:09:24.000 People would love to see you.
01:09:27.000 And there's just such a huge outdoors, hunting, fishing culture.
01:09:33.000 That's what being Canadian is.
01:09:35.000 Once you get out of the city, right?
01:09:36.000 People love to hunt.
01:09:40.000 People love to fish.
01:09:41.000 I go ice fishing with my friends.
01:09:44.000 We go set up a Didn't they put new restrictions on firearms up there?
01:09:47.000 They just banned handguns.
01:09:50.000 Absolutely.
01:09:51.000 Yeah.
01:09:51.000 But not rifles.
01:09:52.000 Yeah.
01:09:53.000 Which is pretty extreme from an American standpoint, certainly.
01:09:57.000 I mean, to think that- So if you own handguns, do you have to get rid of them?
01:10:01.000 No, you're not allowed to sell them to anybody, and you're stuck with them.
01:10:06.000 And that's probably the biggest change that's happened.
01:10:13.000 There is also no automatic weapons up there, so you can't get an AR-15, for example.
01:10:20.000 AR-15s aren't automatic.
01:10:21.000 Or, yeah, that caliber or whatever.
01:10:25.000 Yeah, you can't get those weapons up there.
01:10:27.000 But you can get a rifle, a shotgun.
01:10:31.000 I have a.308.
01:10:33.000 I have a.243.
01:10:35.000 I have a.22.
01:10:35.000 I have a shotgun.
01:10:36.000 I have a 20 gauge, 12 gauge.
01:10:38.000 All the normal hunting rifles are fine.
01:10:41.000 What was the thought process behind banning firearms or banning pistols?
01:10:48.000 Well, I don't...
01:10:49.000 I wasn't really kind of...
01:10:51.000 I think it was just an attempt to curb...
01:10:57.000 Well, they voted for the government, and the government did it.
01:11:01.000 So, you know, obviously, some people aren't too happy about it.
01:11:08.000 One thing about Canada is, like, the gun culture is different up there.
01:11:12.000 More people are, I think, I'm going to get in trouble with the people that are handgun enthusiasts in Canada, but it's just not as common up there.
01:11:20.000 It's more about hunting and hunting rifles and guns.
01:11:23.000 But there are probably a lot of people that are pretty upset about it, for sure.
01:11:32.000 They're not actually taking away people's rifles or anything like that.
01:11:40.000 One of the exemptions is individuals train, compete, or coach in a handgun shooting discipline that is on the program of International Olympic Committee or the International Paralympic Committee.
01:11:51.000 Looks like someone's going to have to become a shooter.
01:11:56.000 Yeah, I compete.
01:11:57.000 I'm personally not...
01:11:58.000 Compete in shooting.
01:11:59.000 That's why I have to have this gun.
01:12:00.000 I'm not really, like...
01:12:01.000 I don't really...
01:12:05.000 You know, I like my lever-action rifle.
01:12:08.000 I like my shotgun.
01:12:09.000 I think I might hunt turkeys this year.
01:12:12.000 I'd like to do that.
01:12:13.000 We have a lot of turkeys on the property.
01:12:15.000 I'm not really...
01:12:16.000 I don't necessarily feel like I need a handgun.
01:12:19.000 It's a different kind of...
01:12:21.000 I don't necessarily feel that anybody should tell me that I can't have a handgun.
01:12:25.000 Especially not the government. 0.99
01:12:27.000 Especially not the government that's already done some really shady shit. 0.99
01:12:30.000 Like what they did with the truck drivers. 0.99
01:12:32.000 Right.
01:12:33.000 Well, I'm from Ottawa, too, so the trucker rally was interesting. 0.99
01:12:37.000 Dude, they fucking took away their bank accounts. 0.97
01:12:40.000 They seized people's, they closed people's and froze people's bank accounts that just donated money. 0.99
01:12:46.000 Yeah.
01:12:47.000 Is that coffee?
01:12:47.000 Yes.
01:12:48.000 You know what?
01:12:50.000 First of all, the trucker rally was interesting because I'm from Ottawa, so I grew up.
01:12:55.000 You know, the Parliament Hill, I'm sure you saw it on the news, like the Parliament Buildings is basically our Congress and our Senate combined, essentially, the House of Commons and the Senate.
01:13:07.000 You know, downtown Ottawa is like Washington, D.C., right?
01:13:11.000 That's our Washington, D.C. I grew up there.
01:13:13.000 I grew up skateboarding on the Parliament Buildings front steps, you know?
01:13:18.000 I did a radio show.
01:13:19.000 This is something about the freedoms of Canada that I think is interesting, okay?
01:13:22.000 When I was a kid, I did a college radio show.
01:13:26.000 And it was midnight till 2 in the morning.
01:13:28.000 And I would say during the show, okay, after the show, everybody show up on Parliament Hill, bring a soccer ball.
01:13:35.000 Let's go play soccer.
01:13:36.000 And then we'd show up there with pizzas and we'd play soccer on the front lawn of the Canadian government till 4 in the morning.
01:13:43.000 Every half hour, the bell would go, bing, bing.
01:13:45.000 The RCMP cops would come.
01:13:47.000 They'd shine their lights out on the field.
01:13:49.000 It was super positive, right?
01:13:53.000 I love Ottawa.
01:13:54.000 It's an amazing city.
01:13:57.000 And I understand that everybody has the right to express their dissent, right?
01:14:09.000 And I think Trudeau probably did overstep with some of his reaction to that, with some of the things he said specifically.
01:14:17.000 But there was also this element of Not only was the city shut down, there's people that live downtown, so those horns were these air horns.
01:14:27.000 There was really kind of babies sleeping.
01:14:29.000 It's really like a neighborhood, right?
01:14:31.000 So, it's kind of funny, in a way, the difference between Canadians and Americans sometimes.
01:14:39.000 I'm both, right?
01:14:40.000 I'm a dual citizen.
01:14:41.000 I love...
01:14:42.000 Fence rider.
01:14:43.000 No, I just love both countries.
01:14:45.000 I've lived here for 20 years.
01:14:47.000 I... But what You know, what is sort of a comparable thing, I think, was, you know, in the United States,
01:15:03.000 they, on January, was it January 6th?
01:15:06.000 You know, they did more than freeze those people's bank accounts, right?
01:15:08.000 They threw them all in jail, right?
01:15:09.000 They threw a lot of them in jail.
01:15:10.000 Yeah, so it's sort of, I'd say it's like a comparison, comparable thing.
01:15:13.000 It's like, I guess that's the thing I just kind of feel is it's like, there's sort of comparisons.
01:15:19.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:15:19.000 First of all, it's different because they entered into the Capitol building.
01:15:22.000 Right, right.
01:15:23.000 You're not supposed to do that.
01:15:24.000 Yeah.
01:15:25.000 A lot of people broke glass.
01:15:27.000 They smashed windows. 1.00
01:15:29.000 They did a lot of shit. 0.99
01:15:30.000 Also, it's not comparable because it seems like they were instigated in some way, at least partially, by people in the audience that wanted them to go in there. 1.00
01:15:42.000 Now, whether those people were federal agents or whether those people are Antifa Whether those people are Democratic operatives that want to turn this into chaos because it's a great way to attack Donald Trump.
01:15:52.000 Whatever it was, there definitely was people that were instigating people to get into the building.
01:15:57.000 There's video recordings of it.
01:15:58.000 There's also weird instances of cops opening gates, letting people in.
01:16:03.000 The fact that it was...
01:16:05.000 Severely under-policed.
01:16:06.000 When they had the George Floyd protest, the Black Lives Matter protest, they had way more cops there for that than they did for this crazy thing where the dude is denying the election and his rabid fans are going to show up and you're not prepared for this?
01:16:20.000 The whole thing seems like... 0.99
01:16:24.000 If I was going to make a playbook, if I was going to instigate a bunch of dumbasses to go do something really stupid because it will make their leader look like a fascist and Hitler, that's how I would do it. 0.99
01:16:37.000 So you have that, too. 0.99
01:16:39.000 It's not as simple as the trucker protest was a legitimate protest where a bunch of people were like, why are you telling me that I have to take this experimental medication or I can't work? 0.97
01:16:50.000 Like, where is the fucking information?
01:16:53.000 And now, Over time, we've seen now that the studies that they did do, they don't have to release them for like 75 years. 0.98
01:17:03.000 You know about all that?
01:17:04.000 All of the paperwork involving the vaccines?
01:17:07.000 What is the exact ruling of what information they're withholding for 75 years?
01:17:12.000 Let's be real clear on that.
01:17:14.000 But then it's also...
01:17:15.000 How many people we know that got injured by it?
01:17:18.000 You're smart to be reluctant to do something that's new, given the history and track record of pharmaceutical drugs in this country.
01:17:26.000 Especially when you have a novel, new thing.
01:17:29.000 The idea that this is going to be the one that's absolutely innocuous.
01:17:32.000 It's not going to harm anyone.
01:17:33.000 At the very least, you should be able to consider not doing it, talk about not doing it.
01:17:37.000 Listen, man, there's no drugs like that.
01:17:39.000 There's no drugs that have a gigantic effect on anything that don't have some people that have horrible adverse reactions to them. 0.99
01:17:47.000 Even normal shit. 0.99
01:17:49.000 Some people die from Tylenol all the time, man. 1.00
01:17:54.000 They overdose on it.
01:17:55.000 People die from all kinds of medication it turns out they have an allergy to. 0.98
01:17:59.000 It's like weird shit happens with people. 0.89
01:18:02.000 And people are right to be reluctant. 0.98
01:18:05.000 But you might be right and you might be wrong, but you're right to express that you don't think the government should be able to tell you what you can and can't do, specifically about putting something into your body or you can't work.
01:18:19.000 That's crazy.
01:18:20.000 So that's that protest.
01:18:21.000 It's a different protest.
01:18:22.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:18:23.000 The whole vibe behind it's different.
01:18:24.000 Absolutely.
01:18:25.000 It is a different subject for sure.
01:18:27.000 It's in response to tyranny.
01:18:31.000 The FDA had previously said that it takes approximately eight minutes per page to process records for the FOIA request, and that it could only review and release 500 pages a month, which is 6,000 pages a year.
01:18:45.000 At that rate, it would take 75 years to release all the data.
01:18:51.000 That's crazy!
01:18:52.000 Yeah.
01:18:53.000 That's so crazy.
01:18:54.000 I guess the point I'm trying to make, which is outside of the weeds of it, is when I'm hanging out in Canada, half the people I talk to are so excited for me to come down here, and they're all like...
01:19:07.000 They were supportive of the truckers, right?
01:19:11.000 This was not some fringe thing in Canada.
01:19:15.000 Maybe the people that actually got in their truck and drove there and camped out there, maybe that was...
01:19:20.000 A little bit more of a, you know, dedicated protester than the average citizen.
01:19:27.000 But there's, you know, it's just like here. 1.00
01:19:29.000 You know, you got people, fuck Joe Biden. 1.00
01:19:33.000 Fuck Trudeau. 1.00
01:19:33.000 They kept chanting it at the UFC. You know what you would probably be amazed to see? 1.00
01:19:38.000 I don't know if this is so common in Canada that we just don't even really, I don't even think to mention it. 0.98
01:19:43.000 Driving around everywhere in the country, in the city, everywhere, people pick up trucks, fuck Trudeau flags. 1.00
01:19:53.000 It says, fuck Trudeau. 1.00
01:19:55.000 Black flag, white letters, Canada flag on it. 1.00
01:19:59.000 People are mad.
01:20:02.000 And so it's not just like everybody in Canada is just down with it.
01:20:09.000 Enough people are down with it that he got elected, but he might not get elected the next time, and then that'll be just like it is down here.
01:20:16.000 I hope he doesn't.
01:20:17.000 It might just be like it is down here. 0.99
01:20:18.000 If he gets elected again, you guys are gluttons for punishment. 0.98
01:20:20.000 Yeah, it could be. 0.96
01:20:21.000 It could be the same as here.
01:20:22.000 Biden could get elected again.
01:20:24.000 Trump could get elected.
01:20:25.000 I was thinking the other day. 0.97
01:20:28.000 I'm almost kind of wondering – this is obviously a stupid idea – but I'm wondering like maybe – wouldn't it almost be better if we just got rid of the elections and just let the conservatives run it for four years and then just automatically the liberals run it for four years? 0.95
01:20:40.000 I can pick a million holes in why that wouldn't work. 0.94
01:20:43.000 But – and just let it go back and forth and then people can just be like, OK, let's just all get along.
01:20:49.000 Let them have four years at running the country.
01:20:52.000 Do what they do.
01:20:53.000 Let the other side run for four years.
01:20:54.000 It's kind of a pendulum that goes back and forth anyways.
01:20:57.000 And then we can kind of get back to just all getting along and— Well, even if that did happen, the same problem would take place.
01:21:04.000 And it's that the people that are embedded, that are running the government, the real people behind the curtain— They're always there.
01:21:11.000 They don't get elected.
01:21:12.000 They're always there.
01:21:13.000 And those are the people that are actually running the government. 0.96
01:21:15.000 So it would be the same horseshit that we're dealing with now. 1.00
01:21:18.000 Every four years, some new spokesperson comes in play, and they do a bunch of shit that pisses off half the country. 0.99
01:21:25.000 And the same thing behind the scenes, the same people are running things. 0.99
01:21:30.000 Yeah, it's so frustrating.
01:21:31.000 And I got to the point where I started to kind of just try to disconnect from the conversation, which sometimes I feel bad about it because, you know, you want to have a social, you know,
01:21:47.000 contribution.
01:21:48.000 Awareness.
01:21:48.000 Yeah, but then you go, man, I just don't feel like talking about the same thing over and over again.
01:21:53.000 Over and over and over and over and over again.
01:21:55.000 What I was going to say, though, is that, you know, like, The whole system is set up so that one person can't be in control for too long.
01:22:09.000 That's the whole idea about term limits. 0.98
01:22:10.000 You got four years and then you get elected again, you get another four years, and then you're fucking done. 0.99
01:22:17.000 I don't... 0.99
01:22:19.000 I'm just saying this.
01:22:20.000 This is not something that I fully support, but...
01:22:24.000 There's something to be said for someone staying in there for a long time and getting it right if they're good at it.
01:22:29.000 Yeah.
01:22:29.000 Right?
01:22:30.000 I mean, if I was in any other job, it would backfire with power and control.
01:22:36.000 The problem is we are terrified of having someone like Putin who's in control of Russia for decades, right?
01:22:42.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:22:43.000 But if you had someone who was good at the job, you would want them to stay on the job.
01:22:48.000 Like, if you had the best CEO of your company, you're making record money and everything's doing great and the products are incredible, you'd want to keep that guy as a CEO. He's obviously killing it.
01:22:56.000 And when Steve Jobs was running Apple, he's killing it.
01:22:58.000 You don't want to remove him as a CEO. Because you know how long it takes to build anything, right?
01:23:03.000 Right.
01:23:04.000 And how long it takes to get good at your job.
01:23:05.000 It takes decades to build anything.
01:23:06.000 Right. 0.99
01:23:06.000 And to figure out who are the right people, who's backstabby, who's fucking... 0.99
01:23:10.000 What are the issues? 0.98
01:23:12.000 Who's...
01:23:13.000 Trying to climb the political ladder and they're just thinking about themselves only. 0.99
01:23:17.000 They're sociopaths. 0.98
01:23:18.000 Figure it out. 1.00
01:23:19.000 It takes a long time to fucking work your cabinet now. 0.97
01:23:22.000 If you had a president that was a young president that gets in at like 38, 40 years old and 20 years of running the country correctly, that's what most of these dictatorships have as a benefit. 0.98
01:23:37.000 It's horrible for the people.
01:23:39.000 But the benefit of having one guy run things and just keep it locked up and this is the right way to do it.
01:23:46.000 We've been doing it this way forever.
01:23:47.000 This is correct.
01:23:49.000 Yeah.
01:23:50.000 It's interesting that, yeah, you got a couple- The most important job ever, and a new guy gets it, or a new woman, never yet, but someday, every four years.
01:23:58.000 Yeah.
01:23:59.000 That's crazy.
01:23:59.000 And often trying to undo everything that was done the four years before.
01:24:03.000 So that's what term limits brought in. 0.67
01:24:05.000 But then on the flip side, you know, we don't have term limits in Canada, and Trudeau's going to be there for a year.
01:24:09.000 You know, if you're not a fan of Trudeau, you go, oh, I wish we had term limits, you know, because he's been there over eight years now, right?
01:24:16.000 Right, but he might be getting elected.
01:24:19.000 He might be getting voted out.
01:24:20.000 It seems like the Canadians are leaning towards getting rid of him.
01:24:24.000 Is that correct?
01:24:25.000 You know, it's one of those things where it kind of feels like it's almost like 50-50 ultimately, but who knows?
01:24:33.000 I think it definitely feels like it could happen.
01:24:36.000 Who doesn't want to get rid of him?
01:24:38.000 Who are those people?
01:24:39.000 A lot of it's regional.
01:24:42.000 I knew if we were going to talk about this, I wanted to kind of sort of make this point because, again, I want Americans to understand what Canada is.
01:24:52.000 It's exactly like here.
01:24:53.000 It's the same type of people that like Biden are the people that like Trudeau.
01:24:58.000 Like the people in Canada that vote for Trudeau are the exact same people.
01:25:02.000 They like Biden, too.
01:25:03.000 There's nobody in Canada that likes Trudeau that also likes Trump.
01:25:07.000 There's also nobody in Canada that likes Pierre Polyev that likes Biden.
01:25:11.000 It's exactly the same.
01:25:13.000 It's the same division.
01:25:14.000 Even on social media, it's the same.
01:25:16.000 You go on social media, you go on TikTok. 0.98
01:25:19.000 You got angry conservatives in Canada saying, fuck Trudeau, and we're turning into a communist country, and all of this stuff, like completely, completely the exact same thing as here. 0.99
01:25:31.000 So it's just... 0.99
01:25:35.000 It's just if I was – I'm not here like trying to be a spokesperson for Canada or anything.
01:25:39.000 But that would – they would not want that.
01:25:41.000 Well, I think that's what scares us the most about Canada is that Canada is so similar to the United States but we're seeing your rights erode.
01:25:49.000 There's also weird bills that keep getting passed, the C-16 bill, the mandatory pronouns, mandatory use of someone's pronouns.
01:25:59.000 And then there was the fact that you guys don't really have freedom of speech.
01:26:03.000 You have hate laws.
01:26:04.000 You have hate speech laws. 0.98
01:26:06.000 And then you also have some weird shit going on with Canada trying to regulate the internet.
01:26:13.000 And with the government trying to regulate podcasts and make podcasts subject to their... 0.92
01:26:19.000 They did try.
01:26:21.000 I did a little research on this in case it came up.
01:26:26.000 They tried and they haven't put into effect that regulation of the internet as far as regulating disinformation.
01:26:38.000 That has not been put into effect.
01:26:39.000 And Trudeau actually said he would not put that into effect.
01:26:44.000 Sort of a subset of, you know, it's sort of like, you know, you've got your extreme left wing here, and then you have cooler heads, and they did not actually put that into effect.
01:26:54.000 Is it still on the table?
01:26:57.000 Trudeau has said that he would never put that into effect. 0.99
01:26:59.000 Well, I think he's saying that now because he knows he's fucked. 0.95
01:27:02.000 And so the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, okay, that's kind of like our constitution, I guess. 0.97
01:27:07.000 They say we have freedom expression, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly.
01:27:12.000 So...
01:27:12.000 But just the fact that you have elements of your government that would even consider that.
01:27:16.000 Yeah.
01:27:17.000 But it's like here.
01:27:18.000 It's like here.
01:27:19.000 It is.
01:27:20.000 It's the same exact kind of people.
01:27:21.000 It's the same thing. 1.00
01:27:22.000 Like, if you don't agree with it, then it's the same thing as, you know, fuck Joe Biden. 1.00
01:27:26.000 You know, it's the same thing. 1.00
01:27:27.000 Fuck Trudeau. 1.00
01:27:28.000 Fuck Trudeau. 1.00
01:27:28.000 Same thing. 1.00
01:27:29.000 And so, you know, because it's interesting, like, I just really want, you know, Americans who are, you know, just not, have never been to Canada, right, to understand that.
01:27:39.000 Are you working for the Canadian Ministry of Tourism and Travel?
01:27:45.000 You know what I was thinking about?
01:27:49.000 In Canada, you don't have to be born in Canada to run for prime minister.
01:27:54.000 You could run for prime minister of Canada and come up and solve all this stuff.
01:28:00.000 I mean, you have to live up there, but it's a nice place.
01:28:02.000 Come on up to Canada.
01:28:05.000 You would win, too.
01:28:06.000 That's the thing that would be amazing.
01:28:08.000 You would win.
01:28:09.000 And you could just...
01:28:10.000 Imagine if I became Prime Minister of Canada.
01:28:12.000 Can you imagine?
01:28:13.000 I was just thinking...
01:28:14.000 Do you think it's crazy Donald Trump being President of the United States?
01:28:17.000 That would be next craziest thing.
01:28:19.000 That would be the next craziest thing.
01:28:21.000 More crazy.
01:28:22.000 Almost more crazy because at least he was like hinting about running for president forever.
01:28:26.000 Yeah.
01:28:26.000 If I just on a whim...
01:28:28.000 Just decided to go run for the Prime Minister of Canada and win because you would win because you have so many fans up there.
01:28:35.000 You really do and that's why I won.
01:28:36.000 That's so scary.
01:28:38.000 I'm so unqualified to run a country.
01:28:40.000 Well, I mean you've got a lot of valid concerns and you feel strongly about things.
01:28:47.000 I think you should run.
01:28:49.000 I would support you.
01:28:50.000 I think that would be amazing.
01:28:54.000 I want to roll up to the World Economic Forum high on mushrooms.
01:28:59.000 See, in Canada, by the way, mushrooms are basically legal in Canada now.
01:29:03.000 Here's something.
01:29:04.000 Trudeau, again, he did legalize weed.
01:29:06.000 That is one thing that he did do.
01:29:08.000 Congratulations.
01:29:09.000 He did one good thing. 0.93
01:29:11.000 It's just he's a weasel. 0.60
01:29:12.000 That's the problem. 0.94
01:29:13.000 He's what I don't like in leaders. 1.00
01:29:15.000 This fake bullshit fucking... 1.00
01:29:21.000 Nonsensical gaslighting. 1.00
01:29:22.000 That shit drives me nuts. 1.00
01:29:24.000 It's so creepy. 1.00
01:29:25.000 And then using all the inclusive terms to make it seem like everybody else is a piece of shit, and you're an amazing human being, and you're on the right side of progressive movement. 1.00
01:29:34.000 It's all just a bullshit act to stay in power. 1.00
01:29:38.000 And when you see politicians do it, you know they just fucking... 1.00
01:29:41.000 Wet their finger and try to figure out which way the wind's blowing and say those things and then act in the interest of whatever money got them into that position in the first place. 0.99
01:29:50.000 Whatever machine is behind them.
01:29:52.000 Whatever support they get.
01:29:55.000 That's all they're doing.
01:29:56.000 And those types of politicians, that's not the only kind you can have.
01:30:02.000 It's kind of like...
01:30:04.000 Yeah, it's...
01:30:05.000 You can have real leaders.
01:30:07.000 They do exist.
01:30:08.000 It's such a huge sort of thing to wrap your head around.
01:30:11.000 You know, it's capitalism, it's money, it controls everything.
01:30:14.000 I mean, I kind of feel just leaving Los Angeles, leaving Hollywood, right, kind of has sort of reset a little bit of my, you know, like, you know, you know this more than anybody else, of course, but, you know, because we even talked about this, whatever it was,
01:30:30.000 20 years ago on my podcast about how, you know, you can democratize It's also the
01:31:01.000 hive mind of Hollywood you're leaving.
01:31:03.000 There's a thing that happens in that town, in that area, where the people that think outside of the norm say it in like whispered, hushed tones.
01:31:16.000 There's a certain ideology that's attached to that city, and it's not logical.
01:31:22.000 It's a kooky, wacky, completely insulated left-wing view of the world.
01:31:29.000 And they enforce it with an iron fist.
01:31:31.000 And if you're not on that team, you don't get booked for things.
01:31:34.000 You don't get picked for things.
01:31:36.000 If you're someone who has conservative leanings, there's projects you're never going to get.
01:31:43.000 You're never gonna be involved with the people will they'll malign you and Without knowing you at all be openly prejudiced about you and So no one does it so everyone who goes over there who's just like desperately trying to make it they're desperately trying to get in movies They're desperately trying to get a recording deal whatever it is.
01:32:04.000 They're desperately trying to do the last thing they want to do is Do something and talk about something that's going to politically get them at odds with the people that run the studios.
01:32:16.000 So no one does.
01:32:17.000 Everybody just follows the same sort of wacky ideology that these people take from the universities They go straight into working as a PA, and straight into working for executives and producers, and all of those people are indoctrinated.
01:32:32.000 They're all in this wild-ass cult of weirdness.
01:32:35.000 And then you have people that move there to try to make it, and these people are just always going on auditions.
01:32:41.000 They're always like, please choose me, please choose me.
01:32:44.000 And no, they didn't choose me.
01:32:45.000 So you're trying to be friends with the people who choose people.
01:32:48.000 You're trying to get them into parties.
01:32:50.000 You're trying to introduce them to other people.
01:32:51.000 You're trying to be around other famous people.
01:32:53.000 Getting anxiety just thinking about it.
01:32:54.000 This person's been chosen.
01:32:55.000 I've got to be around the chosen person.
01:32:56.000 We're going to go to the chosen person's party.
01:32:58.000 Maybe we can get chosen. 0.99
01:33:00.000 So you get this overwhelming anxiety that fills the fucking city. 0.99
01:33:04.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:33:05.000 And then now you have TikTokers and influencers and all these people that are just trying to do anything to get famous.
01:33:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:33:11.000 And that the reality stars and all that started it all off and the fucking Real Housewives and all that wacky shit. 0.99
01:33:17.000 You get away from that. 0.99
01:33:18.000 You're like, oh, there's real people out there.
01:33:20.000 There's real people.
01:33:21.000 That's a storm of anxiety. 1.00
01:33:23.000 It's just a hurricane of confusion and Zoloft and fucking... 1.00
01:33:27.000 And everyone's losing their mind and everyone's in therapy and everyone's fucking nuts and everyone's trans. 1.00
01:33:33.000 It's out of touch. 1.00
01:33:36.000 It's just a crazed cult.
01:33:38.000 Yeah, it's like you start out as a stand-up comedian and you are trying to poke holes in the absurdity of the world and you're saying things that are not being said on stage and then as you all of a sudden get brought into – I'm sort of saying the – Every stand-up comedian,
01:34:02.000 every outlier, every person that's doing something different, a punk rocker, a skateboarder, my goofy show was so out there when I was making it.
01:34:14.000 And I was making it, I was rebelling against, in Canada, in my little public access show, I was kind of trying to rebel against...
01:34:22.000 What obviously seems like a formulaic mainstream way of thinking to create art, right?
01:34:28.000 And then you move to Los Angeles because, well, a show we've got on MTV. I end up moving to Los Angeles.
01:34:34.000 Now you're – I'm talking about myself now.
01:34:37.000 You're in the trance.
01:34:38.000 All of a sudden being asked to go on – The show, The Tonight Show, Saturday Night Live, and you're on these shows. 1.00
01:34:46.000 And, you know, I was sort of a bit of a naive, you know, moron, basically. 0.99
01:34:53.000 You know, like, purposefully so. 0.99
01:34:55.000 I would go on these shows and try to go nuts, right?
01:34:57.000 And try to do something crazy and just try to sort of almost disrupt the whole format of it, right?
01:35:03.000 In those first couple of years as a naive person who didn't understand how Hollywood worked.
01:35:08.000 And I was just, you know, I went on...
01:35:10.000 I had a similar thing to our last appearance here on Jay Leno.
01:35:13.000 I went on Jay Leno when I had a film coming out.
01:35:16.000 I went on Jay Leno and I came up with this bit.
01:35:19.000 Let me roll the bar.
01:35:21.000 Remember they had the bar cart, the J-bar?
01:35:23.000 I'll roll it out on stage during the show and then I'll do a shot of Jager with Jay.
01:35:28.000 This is a crazy story.
01:35:31.000 I've probably told you this before, but I do a shot of Jager with Jay and Jay doesn't drink.
01:35:35.000 So he said, okay, well, I'll throw it over my shoulder, right?
01:35:38.000 So we go there and I'm with my buddy who's – you know, I have a buddy who like pushes you further into the darkness, right?
01:35:47.000 Like, you know, you've got a bad idea and he pushes you further and makes it even worse.
01:35:52.000 Use the force.
01:35:54.000 Yeah.
01:35:54.000 So we're in the green room getting ready – I'm in the green room with my buddy getting ready to go on the show and he goes, do a shot now before you go on.
01:35:59.000 And I go, okay, so I do a shot now before I go on, right?
01:36:03.000 Get ready to go on.
01:36:04.000 The bit's all approved with The Tonight Show.
01:36:06.000 It's a gag.
01:36:07.000 They know I'm doing real Jager, right?
01:36:09.000 But it wasn't planned that I would do a shot before I go on.
01:36:11.000 He goes, do another shot before you go on.
01:36:13.000 Two shots.
01:36:13.000 Two shots.
01:36:14.000 Do another one.
01:36:15.000 So now I walk out.
01:36:15.000 I'm three shots in before the show even starts.
01:36:18.000 Oh, boy.
01:36:18.000 You're hammered.
01:36:20.000 Pretty quickly.
01:36:21.000 Yeah.
01:36:22.000 And then I got out there and I did a shot and the audience goes crazy and cheers, right?
01:36:26.000 And so then I do another shot and so I end up doing way too many shots and it kind of ended up very similarly to our last conversation here.
01:36:33.000 And it was actually...
01:36:37.000 Pretty hilarious.
01:36:39.000 It was one of those things where, you know, it did get out of control.
01:36:43.000 You know, the next day, the New York Post had my picture and it said, dead drunk.
01:36:50.000 It was just like one of those things.
01:36:52.000 And, you know, Jay called me at home the next day.
01:36:55.000 Are you okay, man?
01:36:56.000 You really kind of went up.
01:36:57.000 But then, you know, that was sort of the beginning of me realizing, oh, you know, you can't.
01:37:01.000 Why Tom Green went on Leno and deliberately got drunk.
01:37:05.000 Yeah.
01:37:06.000 And in hindsight, I go, well, that was kind of the outrageous kind of young version of me that I was doing on the show that made perfect sense to do that for a gag.
01:37:20.000 But then...
01:37:22.000 You know, the naive kid in me didn't understand.
01:37:25.000 Well, you know, a lot of people in Hollywood did not understand that and then got mad in the movie studio.
01:37:31.000 People got mad at you?
01:37:31.000 Well, like the movie studio, I was on promoting a movie and they were like, oh, we don't want you to go on any more talk shows for the movie.
01:37:37.000 I'm like, what?
01:37:38.000 It was a joke.
01:37:39.000 Obviously, it was a joke.
01:37:40.000 And they're not interpreting it as a joke.
01:37:42.000 They're interpreting it as me being kind of out of control.
01:37:46.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:37:47.000 But it was a...
01:37:49.000 I'm manufactured out of control.
01:37:51.000 I was out of control, but it was planned confusion, right?
01:37:55.000 But that kind of subtlety didn't really kind of pass the smell test.
01:38:01.000 So then you start to go, oh, geez, I better tone it down a little bit.
01:38:05.000 You better tone it down a little bit because this – and you sort of end up falling into that feeling where all of a sudden you're – Like you said, going to an audition or driving out to a meeting.
01:38:15.000 Or just being a person that you're not.
01:38:18.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:38:19.000 Like if you're hosting a late night talk show and all of a sudden you're this sort of wearing a tie, this odd button down.
01:38:26.000 Trying to make something that they like and fit into their mold and You know, try to get your own little creative shots off within that mold, but no longer are you actually being purely yourself,
01:38:42.000 right?
01:38:43.000 And you can't.
01:38:44.000 It's not even possible.
01:38:45.000 And so then, you know, you end up living there for 20 years, end up living there for 20 years, and it becomes normal pretty quickly, right?
01:38:50.000 And then you sort of slowly forget, oh, you know, this is just the way it works, I guess, now.
01:38:57.000 And then eventually, you know, One day you go, I'm getting out of here.
01:39:03.000 And I got to say, you know, when you moved here, it was a bit of a light bulb, I think, for me, too.
01:39:13.000 It was inspiring for me because I sort of realized, oh, look at that.
01:39:18.000 Joe's leaving.
01:39:18.000 You know, because you were always at the comedy store, all the clubs.
01:39:21.000 It was a scene in L.A. and you're thinking, wow, like Joe's just going to go do it on his own and just...
01:39:29.000 Turn his back on this whole infrastructure here.
01:39:31.000 And I was like, yeah, you can do that.
01:39:33.000 You don't have to be here.
01:39:35.000 And it was really inspiring.
01:39:37.000 And, you know, it inspired a lot of people.
01:39:40.000 And I can tell you, again, it's now living in the...
01:39:50.000 The woods, not far from where I grew up.
01:39:53.000 We had a cottage when I was a kid, pretty close to where I grew up.
01:39:57.000 They've got these birds there called whippoorwills, right?
01:40:00.000 Whippoorwill, whippoorwill.
01:40:01.000 They make this sound, this really unique sounding bird, right?
01:40:04.000 Hank Williams sings about them.
01:40:06.000 And I grew up as a kid hearing those in the woods at night, you know?
01:40:12.000 Just at dusk, you hear them.
01:40:13.000 And now, like, when I'm going to bed, I hear those, and I'm going like, oh, I feel like the sounds of my childhood.
01:40:20.000 Like you're enriched.
01:40:20.000 And the smells of my childhood, and even the things, you know, the mosquitoes, the horseflies, and you're like, even the largemouth bass in the lake, and the You know, the red-winged blackbirds and all those sounds and smells and everything.
01:40:35.000 And you feel like yourself again.
01:40:38.000 And it's like – and there was – you know, for 20 years, I'd be driving up Laurel Canyon, looking at palm trees.
01:40:50.000 And for 20 years, even after 20 years living in the same house, I never felt like I was actually at home.
01:40:57.000 I felt like I was off on some business trip trying to...
01:41:00.000 And I remember saying, even after living there 15, 20 years...
01:41:05.000 What the hell am I doing in Los Angeles?
01:41:07.000 This is crazy.
01:41:08.000 This is a weird place.
01:41:09.000 It's like a weird place.
01:41:11.000 And you feel almost like you have to be there.
01:41:14.000 Now everything's changed, the internet.
01:41:16.000 And I think COVID did that for a lot of people too because all of a sudden everybody's locked in their house and you're dealing with people and these Zoom calls and the internet's changed.
01:41:26.000 You don't have to be anywhere anymore.
01:41:27.000 We realize we can be wherever we want.
01:41:30.000 Yeah.
01:41:31.000 You know, you took your entire organization away and it's bigger than ever and light bulbs start going off and you're like, wow, you know what?
01:41:39.000 That's really cool.
01:41:41.000 I'm going to go home.
01:41:43.000 Well, when we were living in L.A., you're always thinking of yourself as someone who wants to work with the system.
01:41:55.000 You're always thinking of that.
01:41:57.000 Always.
01:41:58.000 I mean, I was on television shows.
01:42:00.000 I did all that stuff.
01:42:01.000 Did a couple of movies.
01:42:03.000 You're always working with the system.
01:42:05.000 So no matter what you do, you're working.
01:42:07.000 Even when you put out specials, you're putting out specials, you're meeting with these people, you're working with the system.
01:42:12.000 And you start to think that that's what you do.
01:42:15.000 That's the business that you're...
01:42:16.000 But it's not.
01:42:16.000 What you do is what you do.
01:42:18.000 That's what you do.
01:42:18.000 What you do is what you do.
01:42:19.000 And you could do what you do wherever you want to do it.
01:42:22.000 Especially once you get good enough at it that you have an audience.
01:42:24.000 And, like, you're supposed to take a chance.
01:42:26.000 You're not supposed to, like, keep living your life by these, like, bizarre tyrants and their rules and regulations. 0.99
01:42:33.000 And the way they behave and the way they fucking... 1.00
01:42:36.000 It's so ridiculous. 1.00
01:42:38.000 It's such a bizarre place to be. 0.89
01:42:41.000 And When you realize that you don't need that anymore, and comedians today realize they don't need that anymore.
01:42:48.000 All they need is a TikTok account or a YouTube account, an Instagram account, a Twitter account, and some good content.
01:42:55.000 And if you get on podcasts, people will check you out.
01:42:58.000 They'll try you out.
01:42:59.000 And there's a gigantic organic network of comedians.
01:43:03.000 We're all friends with each other, and we all get on each other's podcasts, and we all trust each other.
01:43:08.000 Like, if I tell you this guy's really funny, go see him.
01:43:11.000 Like, I'm telling you the truth.
01:43:12.000 I would not ever lie.
01:43:13.000 And I wouldn't have them on if I didn't think they were funny, if I didn't like them, if they weren't nice people.
01:43:18.000 I'm not interested.
01:43:19.000 So there's this beautiful, organic thing.
01:43:23.000 And that's the real network now.
01:43:25.000 That's the real network.
01:43:26.000 It's an organic network.
01:43:27.000 There's no contracts.
01:43:29.000 Every comic that I know that has contracts with other comics, they start doing things together, it always goes south.
01:43:35.000 I mean, maybe it can not go south once or twice.
01:43:38.000 I mean, maybe there's some great people that have figured out...
01:43:40.000 I mean, Tom Segura seems like he's figured out how to do it with your mom's house, but that's, like, almost it. 0.91
01:43:45.000 Everybody else that I know that gets involved with deals and stuff, like, just fucking help each other. 0.53
01:43:51.000 Just help each other organically.
01:43:53.000 That was what I really loved about hanging at the mothership the last two nights is the energy there is different.
01:44:03.000 Like for the comedy club just in the green room.
01:44:06.000 You felt it.
01:44:08.000 You can tell that you've created an energy there that is...
01:44:11.000 It's supportive, right?
01:44:13.000 All the comics are just hanging out in the green room smoking cigarettes and everyone is talking and just – it's super chill and I did sometimes find that it wasn't always like that when you're at a comedy club and other comedians sometimes a little more – feel a little more competitive with each other and there's a little bit more of that. 0.99
01:44:31.000 Trevor Burrus So stupid. 1.00
01:44:32.000 It's so stupid. 1.00
01:44:33.000 Any competition that you have with other comedians is inspiration. 1.00
01:44:37.000 That's all you should look at it.
01:44:39.000 If someone's doing really well and you're like, wow, I wish I was doing that well.
01:44:43.000 Great.
01:44:43.000 That's inspiration to work harder.
01:44:45.000 That's inspiration to go write more.
01:44:46.000 Do more sets.
01:44:47.000 Re-evaluate your material.
01:44:49.000 Go over it better.
01:44:50.000 Do something.
01:44:51.000 Write more.
01:44:52.000 Have some life experiences that you could translate into your act.
01:44:56.000 Work harder.
01:44:58.000 You should just be inspired.
01:45:00.000 And if that person's a good person, you should be happy for them.
01:45:03.000 And that's what we can all do. 1.00
01:45:04.000 This idea that we're all in competition with each other is just stupid. 1.00
01:45:08.000 It's not good for anybody. 0.98
01:45:10.000 I was stoked to get to see your work in progress, your new hour that you're working on.
01:45:17.000 That was incredible.
01:45:18.000 Thank you.
01:45:18.000 Yeah, that was really fun.
01:45:20.000 You got such a great place to watch the show there.
01:45:23.000 I mean, first of all, Fat Man...
01:45:26.000 Room.
01:45:26.000 Fat man, little boy.
01:45:27.000 Awesome.
01:45:29.000 I mean, I just love the way you've set up for the comics where you can go and sit on that balcony up there and just watch the show.
01:45:34.000 The balcony is very nice. 0.99
01:45:34.000 It was just really amazing to watch you working out your new shit. 0.99
01:45:41.000 Thank you. 1.00
01:45:41.000 It's fucking awesome. 1.00
01:45:42.000 And I enjoyed our conversation because I've watched a lot of your interviews with comedians here. 0.97
01:45:49.000 I saw your interview with Louis and you were talking about writing.
01:45:51.000 I saw your interview with Bill Burr.
01:45:53.000 You're talking about writing.
01:45:57.000 Comics don't write and we were talking about this a little bit the other day but I love the process of hearing how the process works for you because I kind of do a mixture of things too.
01:46:07.000 I like to go sit at a computer and type stuff up and then But it's always – I've always found it hard to like – this is a question I kind of have for you because when you go right, you work it out on stage and you got your idea,
01:46:22.000 you got your premise, you got your punchlines, you got your bit and you're working it on stage.
01:46:27.000 And then I found it really inspiring actually because – First of all, I love the way it works with stand-up.
01:46:36.000 Like when you showed up at the green room, you're about to go on stage and you're like focused, you know?
01:46:42.000 You're like focused and you're going through your notes and you're focused.
01:46:44.000 And I'm like, you know, I can tell you're focused, right? 0.98
01:46:47.000 Then you go out, you kill it.
01:46:50.000 You come back in and you see the, you know, that adrenaline rush.
01:46:55.000 And then we're just, you know, and then everyone's just, you're just relaxed and it's just that release, right?
01:47:00.000 Yeah.
01:47:00.000 And then we were just talking about writing and you said you're going to go home and actually...
01:47:04.000 Yeah.
01:47:06.000 I don't know if you want people to know this is too far behind the curtain or whatever.
01:47:08.000 No, it's okay.
01:47:09.000 You're going to go home and write after.
01:47:10.000 I just think, that's so cool.
01:47:11.000 You know, while it's fresh, you go home and actually type up some stuff.
01:47:14.000 That's when I've been doing some of my best writing.
01:47:16.000 There's like a two-hour window that I have where I'm still jazzed from being on stage.
01:47:20.000 Right, right, right.
01:47:21.000 And you're still kind of thinking in that mindset.
01:47:24.000 Yeah.
01:47:24.000 And don't let yourself relax too much.
01:47:27.000 Kind of stay in that...
01:47:29.000 Right.
01:47:29.000 And then, you know, as long as I'm not up too late where I get tired, then I'm forcing it, you know?
01:47:35.000 But if I can get home at a reasonable time and I've got a lot of energy, I get my best writing in.
01:47:40.000 I get some of my best ideas.
01:47:42.000 Because I'm already thinking like comedy.
01:47:44.000 Yeah.
01:47:45.000 You know?
01:47:45.000 You just had it.
01:47:46.000 Yeah.
01:47:46.000 You have the exact words and rhythm in your head.
01:47:49.000 Mm-hmm.
01:47:49.000 And that, I thought, was a bit of a...
01:47:52.000 A light bulb for me.
01:47:53.000 That's inspiring because, you know, I often find it's like, you know, when you write something down or when you do the set and you maybe write it down after and then you don't go get to writing it and then you never remember what the rhythm was later.
01:48:08.000 What the hell was it I said again?
01:48:09.000 I know it was way funnier than what I'm writing right now.
01:48:13.000 So that's...
01:48:14.000 That's why recordings are so important.
01:48:16.000 Just put your phone on the little voice recording thing just to get a reference.
01:48:21.000 Yeah.
01:48:21.000 I was talking to, you know, Louis C.K. I had a conversation with him about this and it was pretty interesting because I've kind of, you know, I like to drink but I kind of quit.
01:48:39.000 I really have cut back drinking in the last...
01:48:41.000 You know, I quit drinking like three days ago.
01:48:46.000 No, but stand up, you know.
01:48:51.000 I wasn't doing stand-up when I was doing my TV show.
01:48:54.000 I'd done it when I was a kid.
01:48:55.000 I stopped.
01:48:55.000 I did my TV show.
01:48:56.000 Started again like 13, 14 years ago.
01:48:59.000 I was drinking a lot.
01:49:00.000 I like to drink like everybody likes to drink.
01:49:03.000 And I'd go on the road and I started realizing, man, even if I go out drinking Friday night after the show...
01:49:09.000 My Saturday night shows aren't as good as they could have been because I'm kind of like carrying a little bit of this alcohol around in me from the night before.
01:49:16.000 I quickly realized, you know, the beginning was like, I'll have a beer on stage, right?
01:49:20.000 Then I go, oh, I better not have a beer on stage.
01:49:22.000 I'll wait till after the show to have a drink.
01:49:24.000 So then after the show Friday night, you know, on the road, it's fun, you know, you're in Cleveland, let's go, let's party, we're in Cleveland.
01:49:31.000 So, you know, you have a few too many drinks after the show Friday night.
01:49:35.000 And of course I was, you know, younger too, right?
01:49:38.000 I was, you know, in my 30s.
01:49:39.000 So you can handle it a little more too than when you're 52. But then every year that went by, I was like, oh, those Saturday night shows are getting a little harder to get through, you know?
01:49:49.000 And it's just one too many Saturdays just lying in my hotel room just waiting for the show to start hungover going, oh my god, and then dreading and being on stage.
01:49:57.000 So then I decided I was going to quit drinking...
01:50:02.000 When I'm doing stand-up.
01:50:03.000 So I'm not drinking this weekend until maybe Sunday night.
01:50:08.000 Maybe we'll have a drink Sunday night.
01:50:10.000 Maybe even Saturday night.
01:50:11.000 I could do a hungover show Sunday.
01:50:12.000 But you've got to have a little fun.
01:50:15.000 Listen, I've got a solution for you.
01:50:16.000 IV drips.
01:50:18.000 Yeah?
01:50:19.000 Oh, it's a game changer.
01:50:20.000 So I can keep drinking?
01:50:21.000 You bring that right on stage with you, the IV? No!
01:50:23.000 I'm just kidding, you don't bring the IV on stage. 0.99
01:50:24.000 The next day, silly goose. 0.98
01:50:26.000 The next day, you get a high dose vitamin IV. Well, the thing that I've been enjoying about kind of scheduling it where it's like I don't drink for a couple of days before, you know, a weekend like this when doing five shows, is like I find, 0.94
01:50:42.000 and this is what I was talking about with Louie about where I had a We're not close friends but I had an opportunity to have a conversation with him about this once and it was pretty cool because the way his mind thinks is so analytical about this type of specific.
01:50:58.000 Everything comedy, right?
01:51:00.000 And I was telling him, I was saying, you know, I stopped drinking before I go on stage because, you know, I feel like there was this period where I didn't have a drink for a couple weeks and when I was doing crowd work, I was just coming up with stuff that I would never, you know, you know when you have a great set of crowd work and you get up, I came up with this intricate story that I told and it was clear my mind was operating in a different level than it would have been had I just had a few beers the night before even,
01:51:23.000 right?
01:51:24.000 Yeah.
01:51:25.000 And then he said something that never really even occurred to me before, which is, you know, when you're working on a set, you know, if you have like a little bit of booze in your system even from the night before and you're up there working on a set, you don't remember the stuff that happened on stage as well either.
01:51:38.000 So then when you go home, you don't really even recall, you know, and that's the biggest, you know, the big part of repetition, getting up and doing these sets over and over again and you remember everything and build on it and build on it.
01:51:49.000 And if you're not retaining that information, Right?
01:51:52.000 So I'm really laying off the sauce.
01:51:55.000 And I was actually kind of – I was excited to hear that we were going to do this show on the day of my – I'm doing two shows tonight at the Mothership with Fat Man.
01:52:07.000 And I was kind of excited because I knew I wasn't going to drink on this show.
01:52:10.000 So you knew you weren't going to repeat.
01:52:12.000 Yeah, I knew I was going, I'm not going to do what I did last time.
01:52:15.000 And so I kind of came in.
01:52:16.000 I'm not trying to encourage you to drink.
01:52:17.000 But I am trying to encourage you that if you do wind up drinking too much and you feel hungover, you don't have to just tolerate that.
01:52:23.000 No, I like that too.
01:52:24.000 Yeah, get an IV drip.
01:52:25.000 An IV drip, huh?
01:52:26.000 Yeah, if you're in town, I'll connect you to the lady that does that. 1.00
01:52:29.000 That just seems like such an extreme...
01:52:32.000 I learned from Chappelle.
01:52:34.000 You know you're drinking too much when you're in a hospital bed with an IV drip.
01:52:38.000 You know you're being smart about your partying.
01:52:40.000 Or you're not in a hospital bed.
01:52:42.000 You're just sitting down.
01:52:43.000 It takes 20 minutes.
01:52:45.000 The reason I told you about the reason why I wanted to come down here sooner and just kind of come check out and hang at the club.
01:52:53.000 I was super stoked that I'm actually getting to Headline the club this weekend.
01:52:57.000 That was even more than I was expecting.
01:52:59.000 I just wanted to come down and see you and congratulate you on the club. 0.84
01:53:02.000 And the reason it's taken me so long is I had a fucked up thing that happened after I moved to the farm. 0.73
01:53:10.000 Basically... 0.68
01:53:12.000 Immediately after I moved to the farm and everything was going great, I had a major injury that I told you about.
01:53:19.000 I didn't get into too much detail about it, but I had a major injury in Costa Rica.
01:53:25.000 I went down there for a vacation and there was a big bonfire on the beach.
01:53:32.000 And everyone was having fun.
01:53:35.000 I went to bed in the hotel.
01:53:40.000 I wake up.
01:53:41.000 I decide to go back to the bonfire a few hours later.
01:53:43.000 It's like 2 in the morning at this point.
01:53:45.000 The fire has gotten a lot smaller.
01:53:47.000 I pick up a piece of driftwood off this beach in this remote beach, right?
01:53:51.000 I go up to throw the driftwood on the fire.
01:53:53.000 And the reason the fire had gotten smaller is the people that had been at the fire put out the fire by burying it in sand.
01:53:58.000 And they buried this huge bonfire that was about the size of this room in sand.
01:54:03.000 And so now there was just a little fire with sand covering hot coals about four feet leading up to it.
01:54:08.000 And I'm walking up to the thing, you know, barefoot in a bathing suit and a t-shirt.
01:54:17.000 With a piece of driftwood and my foot goes into the sand, into these hot coals.
01:54:22.000 Immediate realization.
01:54:26.000 I fall back.
01:54:29.000 If I'd fallen forward, I mean my face would be burnt.
01:54:31.000 I ended up immediately realizing what had happened.
01:54:36.000 And third degree burns on both feet, the top and bottom of my right foot and strangely the top of my left foot, not the bottom, thankfully.
01:54:48.000 And the nerves were completely burned off my feet.
01:54:51.000 So after the initial shock of it, I wasn't in pain, which was the weirdest thing.
01:54:57.000 And I looked down and there's a couple people came to my sort of assistance and were putting water on it, not feeling anything.
01:55:05.000 I'll get graphic because it's crazy, but the skin is just falling off my feet.
01:55:10.000 I get help back to my room.
01:55:16.000 Not wanting this to be...
01:55:18.000 It was the first day I got there.
01:55:19.000 This really ruined my vacation.
01:55:21.000 I'm not feeling pain because the nerves are gone, so I'm literally trying to clean it up with some nail clippers, chopping the little bits of burnt flesh off.
01:55:29.000 Do you have photos?
01:55:29.000 I do, yeah.
01:55:30.000 Of this?
01:55:31.000 Yeah.
01:55:31.000 Like when it looked like that?
01:55:32.000 Not online.
01:55:33.000 No, on your phone.
01:55:34.000 I have not even...
01:55:37.000 I need to see.
01:55:38.000 I need to see.
01:55:39.000 That sounds insane.
01:55:41.000 I haven't even talked about it online.
01:55:45.000 This is the first time I've talked about it online.
01:55:46.000 Yeah, I never knew that you were injured.
01:55:48.000 I didn't want to talk about it.
01:55:50.000 I just didn't...
01:55:56.000 It was crazy.
01:55:57.000 I ended up spending two weeks in the hospital in Costa Rica and then was medevaced on an air ambulance with Charlie.
01:56:06.000 Whoa.
01:56:06.000 Charlie, you were there for the whole ride?
01:56:08.000 Yeah, with Charlie, yeah.
01:56:09.000 Did the nurses take Charlie to go potty?
01:56:12.000 So I had some friends who came down, who were coming down anyways, and they took Charlie.
01:56:17.000 Oh, Charlie.
01:56:18.000 They looked after Charlie for two weeks.
01:56:22.000 So I got driven to the San Jose Hospital.
01:56:28.000 And she was worried.
01:56:30.000 She's adorable, man.
01:56:32.000 She's such a sweet dog. 0.65
01:56:33.000 Yeah.
01:56:34.000 I know the people that are seeing her out now are like, oh, she's kind of freaked out.
01:56:37.000 But normally she's not freaked out at all.
01:56:39.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:56:39.000 She's super sweet.
01:56:40.000 She runs up to everybody wagging her tail. 0.99
01:56:43.000 Yeah.
01:56:44.000 Super friendly.
01:56:46.000 Yeah, so as I got to this hospital, there's a surgeon from Columbia who worked there.
01:56:52.000 It's a great hospital, thankfully.
01:56:54.000 Came out, he said, looked at my foot, said, we're taking you immediately into surgery.
01:56:58.000 And they did skin grafts off my leg.
01:57:01.000 And they took skin grafts like the size of a football off my right leg and stapled 60 staples to staple the skin into my foot.
01:57:13.000 And then I come up out of surgery and the doctor says to me, which I think he was trying to make me feel better, but he said, well, the good news is you'll probably be able to live a normal life.
01:57:25.000 It's the first thing he says to me.
01:57:27.000 I can't move.
01:57:29.000 I had morphine going into my back.
01:57:31.000 I couldn't feel anything below my waist.
01:57:33.000 I thought I was paralyzed.
01:57:34.000 They told me I wouldn't be able to feel anything below my waist while I came out of it.
01:57:38.000 And then I'd spent two weeks in a hospital bed and I was not able to get out of the hospital bed for two weeks.
01:57:49.000 This is debatably too much information, but it's interesting.
01:57:51.000 You get very constipated from all the medicine that's going into you, and you end up not being able to go to the bathroom for about a week, but then you ultimately have to go.
01:58:04.000 And you can't get out of bed because your foot has to remain elevated.
01:58:08.000 Oh, boy.
01:58:08.000 So you've got to drop a log in a bucket.
01:58:10.000 You've got to drop a log in a diaper. 0.86
01:58:12.000 Oh, Jesus. 0.99
01:58:14.000 And someone's got to clean your butts? 1.00
01:58:15.000 And then these Costa Rican nurses come in and clean your butt. 1.00
01:58:19.000 And it was just a really interesting moment of clarity for me where you realize you're humbled as a human being and you realize, oh, this is – I've lost all ability to look after myself and you just kind of end up having to just kind of go with it. 0.98
01:58:36.000 And it was – you know, to my honest with you, I still think about that sometimes.
01:58:41.000 It wasn't the worst thing in the world.
01:58:42.000 No, I'm just kidding.
01:58:43.000 But, you know, they were very nice.
01:58:47.000 The nurses were very nice.
01:58:48.000 Well, that's very sweet of them to take care of you like that.
01:58:50.000 So you can't put any weight on your foot because the bottom of your foot is that skin graft as well, or just the top?
01:58:56.000 So then for the next...
01:58:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:58:58.000 And it was very delicate, the skin graft for the first...
01:59:00.000 No, was the bottom skin grafted as well?
01:59:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:59:03.000 Really?
01:59:03.000 It's all around very, very...
01:59:04.000 The bottom of your foot, like the sole of your foot was skin grafted.
01:59:07.000 That's crazy, because I would think, like, how do they skin graft that, right?
01:59:12.000 Does your footprint come back in the same way, the ridges, the dermal ridges?
01:59:15.000 Yeah, but it's not perfect, though.
01:59:17.000 It's interesting.
01:59:20.000 It was a World War II doctor who invented the way of taking these skin grafts.
01:59:24.000 Actually, they did it for burn victims in the war, and they invented some really, I don't know the word for it, but some tool that actually takes a micro-thin layer of skin out.
01:59:36.000 I don't really have a scar on my leg anymore.
01:59:38.000 Oh, wow.
02:00:05.000 By myself, by the way.
02:00:09.000 My mom wanted to fly down. 0.97
02:00:11.000 My dad wanted to fly down.
02:00:12.000 I was like, you know what?
02:00:13.000 I'm just sitting here like, you know, half out of it, you know?
02:00:17.000 So I just spent two weeks in there.
02:00:20.000 And there was a second surgery where they go in and they checked it.
02:00:26.000 They had to go in and check it.
02:00:27.000 And so I had to go under general just to like take the bandages off because it's painful.
02:00:32.000 And then the third general one was to go in and take the staples out.
02:00:35.000 And then medevac back to Toronto to Sunnybrook Burn Centre, Sunnybrook Hospital Burn Centre, where I spent another 10 days.
02:00:44.000 And then for the next essentially six months, Joe, I would have to go to a doctor three times a week to have my bandages changed because it's like...
02:00:57.000 You know, oozing.
02:00:58.000 For six months?
02:00:59.000 Yeah.
02:01:00.000 It was about three times a week for the first two months, and then it was like twice a week, and then it was once a week.
02:01:05.000 And they're also monitoring it for infection, right?
02:01:08.000 Because if you get an infection, then they have to amputate your foot.
02:01:12.000 So it was basically six months of me just worried about losing my foot.
02:01:15.000 You know, you're saying, am I going to have like one testicle and one foot?
02:01:17.000 Is this what's going on with me?
02:01:18.000 So they didn't have to amputate my foot, fortunately.
02:01:22.000 But it was... 1.00
02:01:23.000 Pretty scary shit. 1.00
02:01:25.000 Holy shit, dude. 1.00
02:01:27.000 Anyways, and then it was kind of like limping for the next year, and then now I'm kind of still a little wobbly, but it's pretty good. 0.93
02:01:36.000 I actually found some photos of this and pulled them up because I thought you might ask when I told you about this.
02:01:43.000 Of course.
02:01:44.000 Now, the thing about this is what's crazy is this is like...
02:01:48.000 This is actually...
02:01:53.000 This is like actually when it had healed.
02:01:55.000 So, I mean, that's after it healed.
02:01:58.000 This is months, months.
02:02:01.000 This is maybe two months after I was back in Canada at this point.
02:02:05.000 Wow.
02:02:06.000 I have some better ones, sir.
02:02:08.000 You know, here's...
02:02:09.000 That's horrible.
02:02:11.000 Here's...
02:02:11.000 Let's see.
02:02:13.000 Here's...
02:02:15.000 This is sort of healing up.
02:02:16.000 That's my mom. 0.99
02:02:17.000 My mom at the hospital.
02:02:20.000 But yeah, it's... 1.00
02:02:22.000 Damn, son. 1.00
02:02:23.000 You got fucked up. 1.00
02:02:24.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:02:24.000 But it's... 1.00
02:02:27.000 You know, it could have been worse.
02:02:28.000 It could have been worse.
02:02:29.000 Yeah.
02:02:30.000 You're alive.
02:02:31.000 You're here.
02:02:31.000 It could have been worse.
02:02:32.000 And you get this sense of almost...
02:02:38.000 It's almost like a sense of gratitude you get afterwards because you're like, I'm alive, I'm here, I still got my foot.
02:02:43.000 And it's so strange how that happens because it's happened to me twice now in my life because I had testicular cancer when I was on MTV and that's why I stopped the show and I'd go to the hospital, they took my right testicle, I still got the left one, everything's fine.
02:02:56.000 And you go from, there's this moment where you're like, in both occasions, there's this moment where you're sort of I'm traumatized by what's happening and angry about it and then it sort of almost instantly flips.
02:03:15.000 It must be some sort of human self-preservation kind of thing that's built into a way our minds work where you're now grateful that it's not worse.
02:03:28.000 Oh, it's healing.
02:03:30.000 I still have my foot.
02:03:33.000 This is a learning experience.
02:03:36.000 I'm not going to do that again.
02:03:38.000 Trevor Burrus Do you think that's wired into people?
02:03:39.000 I think the opposite.
02:03:40.000 I think that's a learned skill.
02:03:42.000 I think that's something that you recognize as an intelligent person.
02:03:47.000 Like, you know what?
02:03:48.000 I should be thankful for what I have all the time.
02:03:51.000 And we all should.
02:03:52.000 It's really hard to be.
02:03:53.000 You get so accustomed to the way your life is that you can't imagine if you were severely impaired, if something horrible happened.
02:04:01.000 It's like, after I had cancer, Sometimes it comes into my mind like a little bit of a light bulb or a wave.
02:04:10.000 Like I'll think to myself, you know, if I'm having a slightly bad day, you know what I mean?
02:04:14.000 And I'll be like, I don't know, for whatever reason it happens, just sometimes when I'm out doing normal errands and I'm having a slightly bad day, going to the gas station, pumping gas or something.
02:04:23.000 And then I think to myself...
02:04:25.000 Oh, man, at least I'm not in the hospital right now dealing with some crazy, you know, existential life and death thing, you know?
02:04:34.000 And so, yeah, maybe it is a learned thing because of what I've been through with that because the same thing happened after I burned my foot.
02:04:40.000 You know, as soon as it's sort of – as soon as I'm – you quickly start of – you go from I can't believe this has happened.
02:04:46.000 I'm angry.
02:04:47.000 I just ruined my vacation.
02:04:48.000 I might lose my foot.
02:04:49.000 This is horrible too.
02:04:51.000 Okay.
02:05:00.000 I'm not thinking about all the things that I'm normally stressed about, whether it's work or relationships or whatever.
02:05:08.000 Things that are just normal, standard things that you're pissed off about.
02:05:11.000 And all of a sudden, you're just, oh, not even thinking about that anymore.
02:05:13.000 I'm just thinking about making sure I don't get an infection on my foot.
02:05:16.000 And you're sort of treating it like a military operation, trying to save your foot or trying to make sure that you make the right choices in your cancer treatment.
02:05:26.000 And then when you come out of it, this is true, it's possibly a learned thing. 0.96
02:05:31.000 You come out of it and you realize, oh, all that shit that I'm normally worried about doesn't matter compared to... 0.98
02:05:38.000 What I just went through. 0.99
02:05:40.000 And then you can kind of maybe learn from that.
02:05:45.000 And, you know, then as time passes, you slip back into the same routine.
02:05:48.000 You start stressing out about the same things again.
02:05:50.000 But then every once in a while it pops into your head and go, well, at least I'm not dealing with the foot's healed and I'm outside right now and everything's good.
02:05:57.000 I'm walking, I'm talking, I'm alive.
02:05:58.000 So gratitude.
02:06:00.000 Gratitude.
02:06:01.000 It's also people need to experience a certain amount of discomfort.
02:06:07.000 In order to appreciate not having that.
02:06:09.000 It's just the way we're wired for whatever reason.
02:06:12.000 I choose voluntary discomfort. 0.96
02:06:14.000 I do shit like cold plunges and saunas and hard workouts and I think it's a viable strategy. 0.98
02:06:19.000 I think it really works. 0.99
02:06:20.000 I think if you can force yourself to do difficult things like a difficult workout, a difficult yoga class, cold plunges, saunas, that kind of shit, your regular life will be less stressful. 0.97
02:06:31.000 Yeah. 0.87
02:06:31.000 You'll be able to deal with these seemingly high-stress situations. 0.87
02:06:37.000 They will seem less stressful because you're doing voluntary stress all the time, and you prepare yourself for difficult things.
02:06:46.000 When you don't prepare yourself for difficult things, you can get caught up in just traffic being something that blows your mind.
02:06:51.000 You can't handle it anymore.
02:06:52.000 Exactly.
02:06:53.000 Yeah.
02:06:53.000 Yeah.
02:06:54.000 I see you doing those cold plunges, and I haven't done that yet, but people do that in lakes and stuff up near me.
02:07:00.000 Yeah, that's awesome.
02:07:01.000 I want to do that.
02:07:02.000 Get a sauna.
02:07:02.000 Put it right by your lake.
02:07:03.000 Yeah, I want to do that.
02:07:04.000 I want to get a sauna. 0.98
02:07:05.000 But that lake's cold as fuck in the winter, huh? 0.98
02:07:06.000 Yeah, I was playing hockey on it a few weeks ago. 0.99
02:07:08.000 Woo! 0.99
02:07:09.000 Yeah, just out there shooting some pucks in the net, and, you know, so I can play.
02:07:12.000 I can skate again.
02:07:13.000 The first year, I didn't skate.
02:07:14.000 Get yourself one of them little wood-powered saunas.
02:07:17.000 Yeah.
02:07:17.000 You can use it with firewood so you don't have to have anything electricity rigged up out there.
02:07:22.000 They make a bunch of those.
02:07:23.000 Throw some wood in there. 1.00
02:07:25.000 Get that bitch hot as fuck. 1.00
02:07:26.000 Get a chainsaw. 1.00
02:07:28.000 Cut a hole in the ice.
02:07:30.000 Make sure you don't drown.
02:07:31.000 I am going to do that because it's...
02:07:33.000 I'm not sure how...
02:07:36.000 I mean, I haven't done a cold plunge.
02:07:37.000 I can tell you that I do like the cold.
02:07:39.000 Like we sort of touched on that earlier.
02:07:41.000 Like when you just go outside into...
02:07:44.000 Like sometimes it's – Canadians complain about the cold who live in the city.
02:07:48.000 But when you live in the country, it's different.
02:07:49.000 The city, winter sucks because like they put salt on the roads and you're basically running from your house to your car.
02:07:54.000 But in the country when there's – you go outside and it's nature and you walk into the woods.
02:07:59.000 There's no bugs.
02:08:01.000 There's no mud.
02:08:02.000 Everything is frozen.
02:08:03.000 You can go places you can't go in the summer, in the winter.
02:08:06.000 You can walk across lakes.
02:08:07.000 You can walk like across huge lakes to islands that are over there.
02:08:11.000 With warm, you know, Baffin Canada Goose jacket on.
02:08:15.000 There's just something about walking across lakes that I don't like.
02:08:18.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:19.000 I don't like it.
02:08:21.000 It's sort of like – I kind of was thinking to myself, I was going to say, you know, it's sort of like a cold plunge except it's just you just go outside as a cold plunge sometimes.
02:08:30.000 You know, it's like you do get a dopamine rush, right?
02:08:31.000 Just from being outside.
02:08:33.000 100%.
02:08:36.000 I've actually noticed that in warmer climates, sometimes I'm a bit more lethargic, you know?
02:08:40.000 But when the winter comes, it's like, okay, you go outside, it's like, you know, you feel it, you feel that, you know, it's just...
02:08:47.000 Well, Letterman used to always have his studio really cold.
02:08:49.000 Yeah.
02:08:49.000 He didn't want people to be warm and sleepy.
02:08:51.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:08:52.000 A little cold, a little...
02:08:53.000 Keeps the comedy fresh.
02:08:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:08:56.000 But there's something about walking across a lake that is just like, at any moment now, let's get this break.
02:09:03.000 Oh, no.
02:09:04.000 Well, because you know...
02:09:05.000 I know you can't.
02:09:06.000 Look, I went ice fishing last year.
02:09:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:09:08.000 I get it.
02:09:09.000 Now, people make mistakes all the time.
02:09:11.000 They wait too long, and it's the spring, and they drive their truck out on it, and it goes through the ice.
02:09:16.000 But if you're...
02:09:20.000 I'm properly advised by people that know what they're doing.
02:09:23.000 Don't, you know, like the people, you know, that some of my friends out there do a lot of ice fishing, you know, they tell you, okay.
02:09:29.000 The other thing you can do is, like when I was playing hockey on the lake this year, you just stay close to the shore.
02:09:34.000 So you go, okay, well, if I fall through, it's only two feet deep or three feet deep here.
02:09:37.000 So, you know, you won't actually be sucked away under the ice.
02:09:42.000 But walking across in the middle, yeah, you have a little bit more dangerous out in the middle there.
02:09:46.000 I'm sure you've seen the video of the Russian woman who jumps into the river.
02:09:50.000 Oh, yeah.
02:09:50.000 So horrible.
02:09:51.000 Oh my gosh, yeah.
02:09:52.000 They cut a hole in the ice and she doesn't realize it's a raging river underneath it and it just gets sucked under.
02:09:57.000 And I heard that just happened recently in the States too.
02:10:00.000 A woman's dog or something went in and she dove in after. 1.00
02:10:03.000 Oh, God. 1.00
02:10:05.000 God damn it. 1.00
02:10:08.000 That's fucking terrifying. 1.00
02:10:09.000 The idea of being trapped under the ice. 0.99
02:10:11.000 There's another one of a guy who's trying to – they cut two holes and they try to swim from one to the other and the ice is clear and you see him under there.
02:10:18.000 You couldn't figure out where the hole was.
02:10:19.000 You see him get disoriented and then you see him trying to find his way back to the other hole.
02:10:22.000 And then he does eventually find his way but there's this sort of moment of panic where his friends are up on top and they're banging on the ice and they're trying to say, no, no, this way, this way.
02:10:31.000 You can see him – You can see his body panicking.
02:10:35.000 You can see him sort of feeling.
02:10:37.000 When you panic, you lose oxygen.
02:10:39.000 Your heart rate goes up.
02:10:42.000 It's like, not good.
02:10:43.000 Not easy to keep...
02:10:44.000 There it is right there.
02:10:45.000 I don't want to see this, man.
02:10:46.000 I don't want to see this.
02:10:47.000 Stop it, Jamie.
02:10:49.000 I remember the first time I saw the concept of falling through the ice in the winter.
02:10:55.000 Remember that movie, Never Cry Wolf?
02:10:57.000 You ever seen that movie?
02:10:58.000 That was a good movie.
02:11:00.000 Look at this.
02:11:02.000 Yeah, and this is real.
02:11:07.000 They're trying to say, this way, this way.
02:11:09.000 And then he goes back, all the way back.
02:11:12.000 He goes all the way back.
02:11:14.000 Yeah.
02:11:16.000 Oh, the music even makes it...
02:11:18.000 What is he doing?
02:11:20.000 Yeah, he had a rope.
02:11:22.000 He found the rope.
02:11:24.000 Is he going to make it?
02:11:25.000 Yeah, he ends up making it, but yeah, there you go.
02:11:28.000 So I think you want a cold plunge in the lake closer to shore. 1.00
02:11:32.000 Bro, fuck what that is. 1.00
02:11:34.000 Whatever that is, fuck what that is. 1.00
02:11:37.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
02:11:40.000 Yeah, he was like a foot away from the hole, and he couldn't tell.
02:11:43.000 That's nuts, man.
02:11:45.000 You ever see that movie Never Cry Wolf from the 80s?
02:11:47.000 It's about a guy that goes up in the Arctic to study wolves and then he ends up, you know, befriending them and Brian Dennehy plays the evil trapper and it was a...
02:11:55.000 Oh, one of that movies.
02:11:56.000 Yeah, it was a great movie.
02:11:58.000 It was based on this Canadian novel, Farley Mowat novel called Never Cry Wolf.
02:12:02.000 Yeah, did the wolves really make friends with him in real life?
02:12:05.000 So he goes up to...
02:12:07.000 In the novel, it's a novel...
02:12:09.000 It's a true story about a scientist who goes up to study these wolves and, you know, it's just sort of man versus nature kind of story.
02:12:17.000 It ended up becoming a Disney movie, but, you know, he ends up, you know, Running out of food, his food gets dropped off in the wrong place or something like that, so he ends up sort of seeing the wolves eating mice, so then he ends up, you know, the big scene, probably inspired some of my work later in life.
02:12:34.000 He starts eating mice off crackers and stuff like that, and it was a big, oh, gross, so he needs the mice off the crackers.
02:12:40.000 But then he ends up falling through the ice at one point, walking across a lake, and there's a scene like that, and it's one of those...
02:12:46.000 You know, back in the 80s, pre-CGI movies where you just sort of remember you had to come up with actual scenes where something relatable and shocking happens that actually really, like, grips you, you know?
02:12:59.000 Yeah.
02:13:00.000 And then Brian Dennehy shows up and, well, you know, he...
02:13:03.000 Kills the wolves?
02:13:04.000 Kills the wolves, and it's very sad, and that's the end of the movie.
02:13:06.000 So you don't have to watch it anymore.
02:13:07.000 Well, at one point in time, people did have to have become friends with wolves because that's where dogs came from.
02:13:13.000 So when wolves came around the campfires, there must have been some curious wolves and there must have been some generous hunters who threw them a bone or threw them some meat.
02:13:23.000 And that's how dogs got made. 0.99
02:13:25.000 The bitch-ass wolves were like, oh, I'm happy to be your friend. 1.00
02:13:29.000 I don't really want to hunt deer anymore. 1.00
02:13:31.000 Yeah, why not?
02:13:31.000 They were cooking some nice, you know, woolly mammoth steaks here.
02:13:35.000 I think that smells better than the leaves we're eating.
02:13:38.000 Smells incredible.
02:13:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:13:40.000 Especially with a wolf nose.
02:13:42.000 Oh, my God.
02:13:44.000 So we made friends with them.
02:13:45.000 And that's where Charlie comes from.
02:13:48.000 Charlie comes from a wolf.
02:13:49.000 Yeah.
02:13:49.000 I've watched some of your episodes where you talk about wolves because I'm really finding myself interested in it.
02:13:55.000 Because this is...
02:13:57.000 I hear them at night.
02:13:59.000 Like, at night.
02:14:00.000 Like, not every night, but...
02:14:01.000 What's up, Charlie?
02:14:03.000 I... You hear them howling, and she goes crazy. 0.83
02:14:06.000 So in the house at night, you hear them...
02:14:07.000 Because they'll eat her. 0.99
02:14:09.000 And so she'll hear them from in the house at night.
02:14:14.000 I don't hear them, but all of a sudden, this happens three times a week.
02:14:18.000 She starts running around the house, barking, barking, barking.
02:14:21.000 And then we go out on the porch, and you hear them howling in the distance.
02:14:24.000 And so they just...
02:14:25.000 So this summer...
02:14:28.000 And I know this happened to you.
02:14:31.000 I had chickens.
02:14:32.000 I got chickens.
02:14:33.000 I got chickens in June as well.
02:14:36.000 I had six chickens.
02:14:37.000 And eggs.
02:14:38.000 You know, I'm getting eggs from my chickens.
02:14:40.000 I've eaten a lot of eggs now.
02:14:41.000 I've eaten a lot of eggs.
02:14:42.000 And they free-range, right?
02:14:45.000 So I'm not fenced in, right?
02:14:47.000 But the woods are sort of...
02:14:50.000 There's a pond and the woods are on the other side of the pond and it's kind of a pasture on one side.
02:14:55.000 So...
02:14:56.000 You know, debatably the wolves and the coyotes don't come right up to near the barns where the chickens are, right?
02:15:03.000 So I let them free range.
02:15:05.000 So in the morning I get up and I let the chickens out and then they spend the day walking around on the lawn and the grass and then sort of more closer to the house area.
02:15:16.000 And this was great.
02:15:17.000 All summer, it was great.
02:15:18.000 I named them.
02:15:19.000 It was Loretta, Patsy, Shania, Dolly, June, and Anne.
02:15:23.000 They're my girls, you know?
02:15:24.000 I gave them all female country singer names.
02:15:26.000 And then I bonded with them in a way.
02:15:28.000 Like, they're kind of...
02:15:31.000 Kind of sweet.
02:15:32.000 I actually would take – sometimes I'd bring one in the house and hang out with it and play piano with it and it was like – I mean this is getting weird but you could tell it was interested in the music.
02:15:44.000 Like there's an intelligence there that's – no, I know chickens aren't known for being the most intelligent thing in the world but you would see their wheels turning, listening to the music.
02:15:52.000 I kind of become attached to these chickens.
02:15:55.000 And then yeah, so I get a bit more comfortable with having them free-range.
02:16:01.000 They free-ranged all summer and they're great because they're eating all the bugs and they're getting all the insects and stuff on the property and around the house.
02:16:10.000 And so I drive into town one day, okay?
02:16:14.000 So I'm gone for two hours.
02:16:17.000 Okay.
02:16:18.000 And I come back and I'm coming up the driveway and it's just feathers, feathers, feathers, feathers, feathers.
02:16:26.000 And there was one survivor, Loretta, survived.
02:16:30.000 She was sort of – funnily enough, there was one chicken that didn't hang out with other chickens all the time and this one, Loretta. 0.99
02:16:36.000 I named her Loretta and she was probably just somewhere else but this vibe just got – Got killed by the coyotes and I saw them on my security cameras.
02:16:45.000 Came right up to the house.
02:16:46.000 And so the thing is, you realize, and I realize this even more after talking to the wolf expert, They were watching the house from the woods, and they saw me leave, and they knew that there was nobody there,
02:17:02.000 and they chose their moment, the wolves, or I think it might have been coyotes that did the chickens.
02:17:08.000 They waited.
02:17:09.000 They waited for me.
02:17:10.000 They knew my truck.
02:17:12.000 They knew there was nobody there.
02:17:14.000 And they said, you know, one good thing to do if you leave, you know, is to play talk radio.
02:17:18.000 You know, maybe they'll hear that.
02:17:21.000 But so they were watching and they came and they got five of them all at once.
02:17:27.000 And chickens were gone.
02:17:28.000 There was just feathers everywhere.
02:17:31.000 It almost looked like a bomb had hit the chicken.
02:17:33.000 It was like just a big circle of feathers and there's five circles of feathers.
02:17:37.000 It's weird to come upon, right?
02:17:39.000 And so then I have this one chicken left, and this is actually kind of sad too.
02:17:45.000 It's funny, like I literally cried.
02:17:48.000 Because I was like so upset.
02:17:50.000 And then my neighbors, you know, or farmers, you know, or buddies of mine, you know, came over and they were like, oh, look at the chicken feathers everywhere.
02:17:58.000 And so, you know, it's like...
02:18:00.000 Is this normal for me to be crying about this?
02:18:03.000 I said, do farmers cry?
02:18:05.000 They go, not over their dead chickens!
02:18:08.000 I'm like a city guy here crying over my dead chickens.
02:18:13.000 So then I got two more chickens to keep Loretta company, and this is kind of breaking news as of yesterday.
02:18:20.000 These two new chickens came, and they hung up with Loretta for the next, since, I don't know, August.
02:18:26.000 And then, well, this is a downer, but yesterday I got a call and the two chickens killed Loretta, the one that was from the different flock.
02:18:38.000 Really?
02:18:39.000 They pecked her to death last night, or two nights ago in the middle of the night.
02:18:42.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
02:18:43.000 Yeah, that's a downer. 0.98
02:18:44.000 But anyway, so now you're like, okay, so that sucks. 1.00
02:18:45.000 So now you've got these two cunt murderous chickens. 1.00
02:18:48.000 So now I've got these two fucking murderer chickens, and I'm planning to get more chickens in the spring, so I'm going to get rid of the two chickens. 1.00
02:18:53.000 Yeah, you have to start from scratch. 0.99
02:18:54.000 Start from scratch because I can't keep these new chickens around. 1.00
02:18:57.000 They're fucking murderers. 1.00
02:18:58.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:18:58.000 That's crazy. 1.00
02:18:59.000 And they're like, hi, I'm your friend.
02:19:01.000 No, you're not.
02:19:02.000 You killed my other friend.
02:19:03.000 Exactly.
02:19:04.000 And they were friends for the...
02:19:05.000 Well, they were all together for the last...
02:19:07.000 You know what you're supposed to do.
02:19:08.000 Uh-huh.
02:19:09.000 Mm-hmm.
02:19:09.000 I know.
02:19:10.000 Yeah.
02:19:10.000 Put them in the oven.
02:19:11.000 Yeah.
02:19:12.000 It's not like I'm going to rehome them.
02:19:14.000 Hey, would you like these two murderers?
02:19:16.000 You don't want to rehabilitate them either.
02:19:17.000 Yeah.
02:19:18.000 Uh-huh.
02:19:19.000 Yeah.
02:19:21.000 Put them on the grill.
02:19:22.000 Yeah.
02:19:22.000 I was told you hang them upside down.
02:19:24.000 Just hold them upside down for a while and they kind of black out and then you can...
02:19:28.000 Don't you want to get revenge for Loretta?
02:19:30.000 It's a strange – well, you know what?
02:19:32.000 Here's an interesting thing about revenge because I've been thinking about revenge.
02:19:36.000 Revenge!
02:19:36.000 Well, I was thinking about revenge with the coyotes.
02:19:41.000 Yeah.
02:19:41.000 And so here's the thing that's a very sort of odd thing.
02:19:47.000 I love the coyotes.
02:19:49.000 I love the wolves.
02:19:50.000 I love them.
02:19:51.000 I love hearing them at night.
02:19:52.000 And I love seeing them.
02:19:53.000 And I photograph them.
02:19:54.000 I've had many moments where I've been engaged in a standoff with them.
02:20:01.000 I filmed it.
02:20:03.000 And so I kind of was really mad for a minute.
02:20:07.000 And then I thought, well, you know what?
02:20:08.000 I think I like the coyotes more than the chickens, to be honest with you.
02:20:11.000 So I'm just going to kind of figure out a way to kind of You know, control the situation.
02:20:16.000 But also, you know, watching your show with – I forget who it was but it was an expert in this area and talking to people.
02:20:23.000 Apparently, like, if you try to – again, this is all theory but apparently if you try to completely control the population of coyotes by – It just makes more coyotes.
02:20:34.000 It just makes more coyotes. 0.99
02:20:35.000 Yeah, it's Dan Flores.
02:20:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:20:36.000 He wrote a book called Coyote America.
02:20:38.000 That's right.
02:20:38.000 He was the one talking about that where the coyote actually – The female coyote has more pups.
02:20:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:20:45.000 But that was what I was talking about earlier, where they were persecuted by the gray wolves.
02:20:49.000 Because gray wolves and coyotes don't mix.
02:20:52.000 So when the gray wolves would kill the coyotes, the coyotes would expand their range.
02:20:57.000 And then they would repopulate new areas where the gray wolves weren't.
02:21:00.000 And the way they would find out how many coyotes are around, they call out to each other.
02:21:05.000 That's right.
02:21:06.000 It was on the show that I heard that.
02:21:07.000 When someone is not responding, the female starts to panic and have more pups. 0.95
02:21:12.000 Yeah.
02:21:12.000 Isn't that amazing?
02:21:12.000 It's pretty wild.
02:21:13.000 And that's why they spread all across.
02:21:14.000 They're in the whole country.
02:21:15.000 They're in every city in the United States of America.
02:21:17.000 They're in the cities now, yeah.
02:21:18.000 Yeah, they're everywhere.
02:21:19.000 Every single state has coyotes.
02:21:21.000 Yeah.
02:21:21.000 It's pretty nuts.
02:21:22.000 But I love them, too.
02:21:23.000 I think they're awesome. 0.92
02:21:24.000 I definitely wanted to kill them after they killed my chickens. 0.97
02:21:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:21:27.000 But that's also, it's like, I'm not in the country either, bitch. 1.00
02:21:30.000 I'm in a fucking suburb. 1.00
02:21:31.000 Like, this is ridiculous. 1.00
02:21:32.000 Right, yeah, you don't want- Between the little small wolves in the suburbs. 0.98
02:21:35.000 Yeah.
02:21:35.000 You know?
02:21:35.000 But they're everywhere in LA. Coyotes are downtown.
02:21:40.000 They're everywhere.
02:21:41.000 They're all over the place in Los Angeles. 0.92
02:21:43.000 They're just little wolves.
02:21:45.000 Yeah, I- I remember they used to come up to my place, that place in L.A. that we did the web show.
02:21:54.000 The coyotes, there were a lot of coyotes around.
02:21:55.000 I saw a bobcat on that street once.
02:21:57.000 Those are cool.
02:21:58.000 Those are cool to see, right?
02:21:59.000 Yeah. 0.83
02:22:00.000 I was pretty stupid, actually, when I was there because I first saw the coyotes and I had this idea, oh, I like the coyotes. 0.96
02:22:06.000 And when I go grocery shopping, I'd buy some chicken gizzards and I'd throw them on the hillside. 0.99
02:22:09.000 Oh, no.
02:22:10.000 And then they really started coming around, so I stopped doing that.
02:22:14.000 Duh.
02:22:14.000 You can't feed coyotes.
02:22:16.000 I'm sure a lot of people in Hollywood do, though.
02:22:19.000 I'm sure they feed deer.
02:22:20.000 I'm sure they feed coyotes.
02:22:22.000 I know people in my neighborhood feed deer.
02:22:25.000 People love having deer around.
02:22:27.000 I know a guy who's got, not in my neighborhood, but he's got 20 acres of land, and he's got at least two feeders.
02:22:37.000 So, like, every day at 5 p.m., you can look out his window and see deer because they're there to get fed.
02:22:42.000 Yeah, it's beautiful.
02:22:44.000 You been hunting lately?
02:22:46.000 Not lately, no.
02:22:47.000 Planning going out again?
02:22:49.000 Come to Canada.
02:22:49.000 Come hunt in Canada.
02:22:50.000 I've been there before.
02:22:52.000 I've wanted to...
02:22:55.000 Your government, like, seriously worries me.
02:22:58.000 Yeah, you know, come up and run for prime minister.
02:23:01.000 Let's change it.
02:23:02.000 Run for prime minister.
02:23:04.000 You can do it.
02:23:05.000 You can do it.
02:23:05.000 It'd be amazing.
02:23:06.000 It'd be amazing.
02:23:06.000 How do you say his name again?
02:23:07.000 Poliev.
02:23:08.000 Poliev.
02:23:09.000 Poliev.
02:23:09.000 Poliev.
02:23:10.000 Sorry, Poliev. 0.96
02:23:10.000 But, no, the people would love to have you up there. 0.96
02:23:14.000 Not everybody, but a lot of people would love to have you up there.
02:23:17.000 There's some people with blue hair up there that don't want nothing to do with me.
02:23:19.000 Yeah.
02:23:20.000 No, but I mean I think – I want you to know that you are loved by so many up there and it's people that – I love Canadians.
02:23:27.000 They're awesome.
02:23:27.000 I've always said Canada has 20 percent less douchebags than America.
02:23:32.000 It's just very similar to what it's like here with the division. 1.00
02:23:35.000 It's the same division, same issues, same bullshit. 0.99
02:23:37.000 Well, that's why you have to stop it. 1.00
02:23:38.000 It's not just the same divisions and the same bullshit. 0.99
02:23:41.000 That's true too. 0.97
02:23:41.000 But it's also a ploy that's being used to separate ourselves while they enact more control and that's what's scary. 0.97
02:23:47.000 That's what's scary.
02:23:48.000 It's like the underlying mechanism.
02:23:50.000 What's actually happening behind the scenes?
02:23:52.000 Well, they're trying to clamp down and control the population.
02:23:55.000 That's scary.
02:23:56.000 They're trying to clamp down and control the information the population gets. 1.00
02:24:00.000 That's fucking scary. 0.99
02:24:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:24:02.000 Yeah.
02:24:03.000 Because that doesn't ever come back.
02:24:05.000 Yeah.
02:24:05.000 Once they get that power, they don't give it back to the people.
02:24:08.000 It never happens.
02:24:10.000 So you have to fight to stop that from happening.
02:24:12.000 You can't let them decide what you can and can't do because they're just people.
02:24:17.000 I mean, there would be outrage in Canada if your show got banned, if it got blocked because people – everybody watches your show.
02:24:24.000 I mean, it's like here.
02:24:25.000 Everybody watches your show.
02:24:26.000 Everybody loves your show.
02:24:27.000 It would be outrage.
02:24:28.000 It would be political – it would be political suicide.
02:24:31.000 It could happen though.
02:24:32.000 It could happen, especially if there's some new COVID type thing happens.
02:24:36.000 And I have contrary experts on.
02:24:39.000 I have people on that are like Robert Malone, the guy that they maligned and said it was a conspiracy theorist and that he wasn't a qualified expert to talk about the subject, even though he's vaccine injured himself, even though he owns nine patents on the creation of mRNA vaccine technology.
02:24:59.000 I mean, he's a legitimate scientist that worked on that technology.
02:25:03.000 I think the Canadian public values freedom of expression and speech.
02:25:09.000 Right, but the Canadian government doesn't.
02:25:10.000 That's the problem.
02:25:13.000 Again, they haven't passed that law.
02:25:16.000 But the thing is, if they do, if they try to...
02:25:19.000 And there's calls to do it right now in America.
02:25:22.000 There's also calls to do it from the World Health Organization to try to put a kibosh on any...
02:25:28.000 Information that doesn't jive with what they're saying in the case of another situation, another pandemic.
02:25:35.000 I mean Google released that thing where they were saying that they had some new regulations that would be put in place in cases of a special event or anything of extreme social or political, some thing where they're going to be able to stop,
02:25:51.000 air quotes, misinformation.
02:25:53.000 That's fucking terrifying because oftentimes That information turns out to be correct. 0.81
02:25:57.000 I love your approach to it and your stand-up, your new stand-up. 0.97
02:26:01.000 It's hilarious.
02:26:02.000 I won't say it, obviously, but it's just hilarious.
02:26:05.000 Thank you.
02:26:06.000 Because, you know, it's very self-reflective, too, and I just thought it was just amazing because, you know, you're kind of—I won't say it.
02:26:13.000 I don't want to say it because, obviously, you've got your show coming up.
02:26:15.000 Thank you.
02:26:15.000 Appreciate it.
02:26:16.000 But I thought it was— Even people that may think they disagree with you on some subjects probably are going to really find it quite pointed, the way you address the issue in your stand-up set.
02:26:28.000 I thought it was awesome.
02:26:29.000 It was hilarious, yeah.
02:26:30.000 Thank you.
02:26:31.000 Thanks.
02:26:31.000 Amazing.
02:26:32.000 Well, it's obviously something on everybody's mind. 0.95
02:26:35.000 It's just we're in a weird pivotal moment where technology and our awareness of corruption is all meeting in this battleground in the middle of the fucking field like Braveheart. 0.95
02:26:48.000 That's what's scary. 0.80
02:26:49.000 What's scary is these two things are colliding and I don't know which one's gonna win.
02:26:53.000 Because we could turn into a dictatorship.
02:26:56.000 We could.
02:26:57.000 We could turn into something that's closer to a dictatorship and then something that's closer still and continue to go down that line, especially if there's some need to clamp down on society because something happened, whether it's a solar flare or whether it's a terrorist attack or whether it's just flat-out war.
02:27:17.000 It's all that we need.
02:27:18.000 All that we need is some reason When they need to completely clamp down on your ability to express yourself, platforms' ability to distribute information that's contrary to what they're saying, any of those things, anything that they can do to stop that,
02:27:33.000 to put a clamp down on people, like, disrupting the narrative that they're trying to distribute.
02:27:44.000 COVID was essentially one of the catalysts that got me to leave the city.
02:27:49.000 And, you know, it started with the van.
02:27:51.000 I got the van, and I'm out in the remote desert, and I'm loving it out there.
02:27:55.000 And I was, you know, I was my bug-out van.
02:27:58.000 I mean, I probably could have survived in that van with a solar power battery system and my food.
02:28:06.000 I had freeze-dried, you know, meals ready to eat, you know, camping food, boil water and pour it in the bag.
02:28:12.000 It was lasagna.
02:28:13.000 This was amazing.
02:28:13.000 You know, I could have probably spent, you know, months out there without even having to go anywhere, you know?
02:28:19.000 And you start to go, hey, this is kind of cool, you know?
02:28:21.000 Like, I'm self-sufficient out here.
02:28:23.000 I'm not, you know, I've got 26-gallon water.
02:28:26.000 You didn't get lonely?
02:28:27.000 Well, I would drive out to a cool place for three or four days, and then I'd go to another location, and then- So you'd go and hang with people?
02:28:37.000 No, I wasn't.
02:28:38.000 I was just doing this sort of...
02:28:40.000 Isolation.
02:28:41.000 COVID. I was really actually kind of getting into videography again.
02:28:49.000 I shot this video on Sony A7S III, but I started getting back into cameras.
02:28:53.000 Right, but you weren't around any people?
02:28:55.000 Well, I was...
02:28:56.000 When you went to cool places, did you go hang around people?
02:28:59.000 No, no.
02:28:59.000 I was just alone, yeah.
02:29:00.000 And it was just Charlie and I. We made this sort of film.
02:29:04.000 How long did you go without being around any people?
02:29:07.000 Well, because then I would go...
02:29:09.000 Because when you came here, the last time I did the podcast, I had the distinct impression of a man who just got rescued from an island.
02:29:15.000 Yeah.
02:29:16.000 It was Tom Hanks. 1.00
02:29:17.000 You had the fucking volleyball. 1.00
02:29:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:29:20.000 It was like that, yeah.
02:29:21.000 You seemed a little manic.
02:29:22.000 It was somewhat of a creative experiment mixed with real paranoia as well.
02:29:30.000 Because I do sort of, I think sometimes, like I said, you know, I got testicular cancer. 0.99
02:29:36.000 How the fuck did that happen to me? 0.94
02:29:37.000 So I'm just like, okay, this is everything bad. 0.97
02:29:39.000 If this is happening, it's going to be bad.
02:29:40.000 So it's going to be bad to me.
02:29:41.000 So I'm just going to.
02:29:42.000 So how long did you go without being in contact with any other people?
02:29:47.000 Well, so I still had my house in L.A., so I hadn't sold my house yet.
02:29:52.000 So I had this van.
02:29:53.000 So I would drive out into the desert for a couple of weeks and basically go on a camping trip, and then I'd go back home.
02:29:58.000 Were you around people when you were back home?
02:30:00.000 So it was still that people would come over.
02:30:04.000 We'd hang out outside.
02:30:05.000 It was that kind of whole thing for the first few weeks or whatever, months.
02:30:09.000 Remember it was a couple of months?
02:30:10.000 Would you cover your mouth and then run outside, hold your breath?
02:30:14.000 Yeah, kind of.
02:30:15.000 We'll just hang outside for a couple months, go to the dog park and see people there and stuff like that.
02:30:19.000 It was at, you know, that initial stage where...
02:30:23.000 You weren't in L.A. then?
02:30:24.000 No.
02:30:25.000 So it was wild.
02:30:26.000 I was in L.A. Were you in L.A. at the beginning of COVID? Yeah.
02:30:29.000 I moved during COVID. Oh, that's right.
02:30:31.000 I came on your show in L.A. at the beginning of COVID. Yeah, that's right.
02:30:34.000 And the second time I came on your show was here.
02:30:38.000 Yeah.
02:30:38.000 Okay, yeah.
02:30:40.000 You're avoiding the question.
02:30:42.000 Remember how there were military helicopters going over?
02:30:44.000 You're avoiding my question.
02:30:45.000 How long did you go without being around people?
02:30:49.000 Maybe a couple of months or something like that.
02:30:51.000 How many months?
02:30:53.000 Well, a couple's two.
02:30:54.000 A few is three or more.
02:30:57.000 Maybe it was three.
02:30:58.000 You sure it wasn't more?
02:31:00.000 Well, then I started doing the van thing, so there was nobody where I was going anyway, so I had an excuse.
02:31:05.000 I was on a camping trip.
02:31:06.000 But still being with no people.
02:31:08.000 How long were you with no people then?
02:31:11.000 Yeah, I mean it was a few months for sure.
02:31:13.000 But all told, how many months do you think you spent of that year without being around people?
02:31:18.000 Well, first of all, one thing that's interesting about it is I happened to be single at the time.
02:31:22.000 Are you a lawyer? 1.00
02:31:23.000 The way you're answering these questions is like a goddamn lawyer. 1.00
02:31:25.000 Well, it is a bit embarrassing, I guess, to think that I was isolated. 0.99
02:31:30.000 But I also found it kind of fun.
02:31:33.000 Right, but how long?
02:31:35.000 Like it was about three or four months or something like that.
02:31:38.000 But then the van.
02:31:40.000 You weren't around people then too.
02:31:42.000 No.
02:31:43.000 That's isolation too.
02:31:44.000 Yeah, but that was more like I was enjoying going out into nature by myself.
02:31:48.000 But you were still by yourself with no people for how long?
02:31:50.000 But I'd go for a couple weeks and I'd go back to LA and I'd be in LA. And you'd be around people.
02:31:55.000 I'd recharge a bit.
02:31:56.000 I'd be around people a little bit and then I'd go back out again.
02:31:59.000 And then as things died down, as they did, you know, I started being around people like everybody else.
02:32:05.000 I couldn't imagine going months without being around people.
02:32:08.000 Well, the thing that was weird about it was, you know...
02:32:13.000 I'm not married.
02:32:13.000 I was single.
02:32:14.000 I didn't have a girlfriend at the time.
02:32:15.000 So like I actually...
02:32:17.000 No responsibility.
02:32:18.000 True freedom.
02:32:18.000 That's what made it weird was I didn't...
02:32:20.000 I could imagine if I had a girlfriend at the time, we'd just say, okay, we're going to isolate together.
02:32:24.000 Now you're just with your significant other.
02:32:27.000 Here I was, okay, I'm going to isolate and I don't have a significant other at the time.
02:32:31.000 So it was like actually the first time where I've ever had this sort of self-imposed or whatever maybe was imposed on us, you know, or I took the...
02:32:41.000 I took it as an opportunity to be by myself and go out and make videos in the desert and go to these really crazy remote places.
02:32:47.000 And I would seek out places where there wasn't going to be other vans and other people.
02:32:51.000 But when you were out in the desert, a lot of times you'd go to somewhere and there'd be other people out in their vans and you'd hang out and have beers with people out in the desert and hang out and then you'd go think of a more remote place.
02:32:59.000 And I started discovering some amazing places like that, you know, the rabbit hole you go down when you, you know, COVID aside, isolation aside, just going out into the American Southwest in a camper van that's self-sufficient is pretty wild,
02:33:18.000 the stuff that's out there.
02:33:19.000 I mean, I think I probably talked about Chaco Canyon the last time I was here because I think I'd just gone there in New Mexico, which is Pueblo Native American ruins.
02:33:29.000 It's essentially like a stone ruins of a city that was built in the year 875, 875, and it's like Machu Picchu-level type city that they didn't even discover until the 1950s because it was buried,
02:33:44.000 and it's in this beautiful—it's on the Navajo Nation Reserve, on the Navajo land, and you feel this sort of I felt sort of somewhat shocked,
02:34:05.000 I guess, that there's all this stuff out there that you don't really hear talked about constantly.
02:34:08.000 Like I hear about Machu Picchu.
02:34:10.000 Somebody brings that up once a week.
02:34:13.000 Nobody's ever brought up...
02:34:14.000 Who are you talking to?
02:34:14.000 Brings up Machu Picchu once a week?
02:34:16.000 I don't know.
02:34:16.000 It just comes up a lot.
02:34:17.000 People talk...
02:34:18.000 It was probably you, I think.
02:34:19.000 You talk about pyramids.
02:34:21.000 I rarely talk about Machu Picchu.
02:34:22.000 You talk about the pyramids a lot, right?
02:34:23.000 Yeah, I talk about that a lot.
02:34:25.000 Machu Picchu is pretty crazy.
02:34:26.000 Talking about ancient cultures that have built these incredible structures, right?
02:34:32.000 And right here in New Mexico, just up the road from here, like an 11-hour drive from here, right?
02:34:36.000 Just outside of Albuquerque, Navajo Nation, it's a huge canyon, completely empty, no one there.
02:34:44.000 And so it's this realization that there was a civilization there that was...
02:34:50.000 And they've studied this place quite extensively.
02:34:55.000 In fact, Mike Judge from Beavis and Butthead, his father, Mike Judge grew up in New Mexico.
02:35:01.000 I found this out after the fact.
02:35:02.000 So I started looking up information about Chaco Canyon to try to learn a bit more about it.
02:35:07.000 And his father, James Judge is his name, was one of the predominant researchers of this particular archaeological site, right?
02:35:14.000 Oh, wow.
02:35:15.000 And so he wrote this book about it and they dived, you know, he spent his life diving into details. 0.95
02:35:21.000 That's so fucking cool.
02:35:22.000 Yeah. 0.94
02:35:22.000 So I spent like, you know, a day there. 0.94
02:35:25.000 And there was no one there with you?
02:35:26.000 I was there with Charlie, yeah.
02:35:28.000 Just you and Charlie?
02:35:29.000 Just me and Charlie, and I shot video.
02:35:31.000 There's video on my YouTube channel, too.
02:35:33.000 I was doing all this for my YouTube channel.
02:35:35.000 I was really getting to the filmmaking side of it.
02:35:37.000 I had my drone.
02:35:38.000 I was going out and filming stuff.
02:35:40.000 Isn't it crazy you're just allowed to walk around there?
02:35:43.000 Yeah, it's wild.
02:35:44.000 And see the bottom left?
02:35:46.000 See that sort of structure there?
02:35:47.000 So that was a five-story building at one point.
02:35:50.000 And you can go walking through there, and there's wood that they've used as beams that's still like within the – it's petrified wood or whatever.
02:36:00.000 It's within the stone.
02:36:01.000 And, you know, it's wood from the year – 875 to 1100. The people left there in 1100 because of a drought.
02:36:13.000 They were gone before Columbus, right?
02:36:15.000 See the wood there?
02:36:16.000 That's between 875 and 1175, whenever that was particularly built.
02:36:21.000 Wow!
02:36:21.000 So, and this area, they've done all these studies of this area, so they know, like, they found macaw feathers, speaking of my old pal Rex, they found macaw feathers there.
02:36:30.000 Now, macaws are from, the furthest north is Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico, so they knew that people were coming from Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico, up here to trade with them, and they found, you know, evidence of all these different things that sort of indicated that People were coming from as far north as Canada,
02:36:54.000 as far south as South America to come to this area.
02:36:58.000 And that whole Chaco Canyon area, once you get in there, is like this...
02:37:07.000 I don't know.
02:37:08.000 Not to get all voodoo about it, but when people talk about Sedona and there's the energy there, you feel this sort of...
02:37:15.000 And it may be just because it's so beautiful and it's so quiet and it's this natural kind of amphitheater where it's silent and the wind is deadened and you're just all alone and you're walking through this structure...
02:37:29.000 I share the fascination that you have for the pyramids.
02:37:32.000 I want to go there someday.
02:37:34.000 If I could snap my fingers right now and just be somewhere, it would be the pyramids.
02:37:38.000 I'd like to go to the pyramids someday.
02:37:39.000 I've never been there.
02:37:39.000 So here's me walking through it with my camera.
02:37:41.000 And so you're walking through this by yourself.
02:37:46.000 And you're just going like, wow, there was all this stuff going on here.
02:37:50.000 And apparently they've determined this was like a meeting place for people from all over North America that would kind of come here and share information.
02:38:02.000 They actually believed that there was sort of almost like a festival type atmosphere that would happen there where people would come and trade and share information and all this stuff.
02:38:13.000 Are there similar Native American construction sites like this?
02:38:17.000 Yeah.
02:38:17.000 So then you go down this rabbit hole and you realize that they're all over the place.
02:38:21.000 So then there's many of them.
02:38:25.000 There's up in – there's these ones called the Cliff Dwellings, which are – that one there is actually – this one here is actually later.
02:38:35.000 That's post-Columbian, this one.
02:38:37.000 This was a Spanish – I think this one's built around 1500. Similar construction style.
02:38:44.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:38:44.000 It's amazing, right?
02:38:45.000 When you look at it, they were building stuff in 800 before Europeans had come here using the same kind of building techniques as that. 0.93
02:38:54.000 And it's weird when you're there and you're touching it and it's like solid and you're going, wow, that's actually...
02:38:58.000 So they've got these cliff dwellings.
02:39:00.000 There's lots of them where they've built into the cliffs of Colorado.
02:39:07.000 Yeah, those are cliff dwellings.
02:39:09.000 I went to one of those ones.
02:39:10.000 There's one that's called the Gila National Forest.
02:39:16.000 New Mexico.
02:39:17.000 Yeah, it's up in the border.
02:39:19.000 It's up in New Mexico, I think, yeah.
02:39:21.000 And that's a wild story there because it's a national park, you know, and...
02:39:29.000 So you go walk around there, and that one, there were a couple people walking around.
02:39:32.000 They drive down.
02:39:33.000 There's people walking around.
02:39:34.000 Did they dig these caves, or these caves always exist?
02:39:37.000 They're natural caves that they've kind of sort of utilized as they built the walls up around the bottom of it.
02:39:45.000 Yeah, they've done something to it, right?
02:39:47.000 And so this place is wild.
02:39:49.000 And the stories you pick up when you go to these places, because then you go down the rabbit hole, you start reading about it, and you go, wow, I never knew about this.
02:39:56.000 No American had ever been there until the mid-1800s.
02:40:04.000 Because it was Apache territory, and if you went there, the Apache would kill you before 18-whatever it was. 0.97
02:40:12.000 I forget the date, but it was like in the 1700s, early 1800s.
02:40:15.000 Look at the writings.
02:40:16.000 And this place, I haven't been to this place yet, but I want to go here. 0.99
02:40:19.000 Oh, shit, man. 0.99
02:40:20.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:40:21.000 And yeah, I talk about like when you start thinking about UFOs and stuff, you look at some of these petroglyphs and you go, what's that?
02:40:28.000 There's a lot of petroglyphs out there too.
02:40:30.000 That looks kind of like a spaceship or something, you know?
02:40:37.000 Honestly, the real reason I was out there in the van by myself so long was because I got addicted to it.
02:40:42.000 And that's actually kind of why I ended up moving.
02:40:44.000 I was like, I love being out here alone by myself with my van and my camera so much.
02:40:48.000 I want to live in the country again.
02:40:50.000 How'd you find the spot?
02:40:52.000 In Canada?
02:40:53.000 Well, I got kind of lucky.
02:40:55.000 I just kind of – I just honestly just started looking on the internet, you know, just like looking at real estate listings and I started looking for a farm near my hometown and I just kept looking and searching every day and I was – Lucky that it just kind of fell on my lap right at the right place,
02:41:13.000 right time.
02:41:14.000 My house sold in L.A. immediately and I drove back and that place I put in an offer and I got it.
02:41:21.000 Nice.
02:41:22.000 It just all worked out and it all worked out.
02:41:24.000 And how long have you been out there now?
02:41:26.000 I'll be coming up on three years in July.
02:41:28.000 It looks like you're having fun.
02:41:30.000 I'm loving it.
02:41:30.000 The videos of you online are very interesting.
02:41:33.000 I'm like, look at Tom Green.
02:41:34.000 I'm enjoying it.
02:41:35.000 He's kind of living in the woods by himself.
02:41:37.000 It's like, there's a lot to do that is...
02:41:42.000 Stuff that falls outside of anything that would fall under the category of what I would consider to be work, right?
02:41:51.000 But it is work, but it's different work.
02:41:52.000 It's like, I've got to feed the chickens or we built a fence this year for the mule and the donkey.
02:42:01.000 So it's this patent rail fence that is made out of cedar that is literally these 100-year-old cedar rail fences that are on the property that have fallen down in the woods and, you know, have gone by the not used anymore.
02:42:15.000 And we went back with a fence builder, you know, and everybody out there is, you know, in the country is a guy whose family is traditional fence builders whose grandfather built these fences.
02:42:27.000 We went and salvaged all this wood and then built new fences out of them.
02:42:32.000 Oh, that's cool.
02:42:32.000 And so you kind of...
02:42:35.000 It's nice to find something to do that is, A, you're outside, you're getting exercise.
02:42:44.000 You feel like you're actually doing something.
02:42:45.000 You feel like you're doing something.
02:42:47.000 And it's the first time, I said this earlier, I'm never going to leave this place.
02:42:51.000 It's the first time I've ever lived somewhere where I know I'm never going to sell it and leave.
02:42:56.000 So every step of my life, like everyone, as you're growing up, you've got your first apartment.
02:43:01.000 How long am I going to be here?
02:43:03.000 How long am I going to be here?
02:43:05.000 So now I'm just kind of like...
02:43:06.000 Now just in my head I have like, oh, I'd like to maybe build a log cabin someday on the backwoods.
02:43:13.000 So that's sort of one thing I'm kind of thinking about, how I want to build a log cabin.
02:43:17.000 Like the way the...
02:43:19.000 The house itself that I'm in was built in 1857, and it's a log house.
02:43:25.000 That's amazing.
02:43:27.000 Do you have photos of the house?
02:43:29.000 Yeah, on my YouTube channel- Do you have a video tour of the house?
02:43:34.000 I haven't really – there's not a full tour, but I think if you can see some of the logs on the YouTube channel, I did a couple little sort of sample podcasts where you can see the wood in the background. 0.95
02:43:45.000 That's fucking dope. 0.93
02:43:46.000 This was last week. 1.00
02:43:47.000 You live in a log house from the 1800s with a wood-burning stove behind you.
02:43:51.000 That's amazing.
02:43:52.000 And yeah, so it's like, and it's interesting, so, you know, you start to realize, you know, I'm doomsday prepping in the van, you know, like, oh, I could be self-sufficient in this van.
02:44:01.000 Well, I also, you know, and again, it's fun, but it's also kind of very functional.
02:44:08.000 Like, I have unlimited fuel, okay, because there's wood falling in the forest forever, and every summer you can go out and I've got a wood splitter, right?
02:44:19.000 It's a gas-powered wood splitter and you chainsaw up the logs, you drop them in, the wood splitter splits them and it's sort of an efficient way of getting firewood basically.
02:44:30.000 So they'll never run out of wood out there.
02:44:32.000 The house has actually got propane sort of a furnace as well.
02:44:36.000 So it runs on propane and the propane truck comes every – there's no natural gas or anything running into the house to heat it.
02:44:42.000 So you have a propane truck comes every – A couple of months and fills up this propane tank in the winter.
02:44:47.000 But if shit hits the fan and the propane truck doesn't show up, I can still heat the house fully with wood. 0.94
02:44:57.000 There's two wood stoves. 0.98
02:44:59.000 Do you have solar?
02:45:01.000 I have solar.
02:45:02.000 There's a solar system that was there actually, but it's not actually connected to the house, but it's connected to the grid, and it's actually selling energy back to the power company.
02:45:13.000 But not to you?
02:45:14.000 Not to me, no.
02:45:15.000 What kind of scam is that?
02:45:17.000 Well, it's paying me.
02:45:18.000 It pays me.
02:45:19.000 Yeah, I get paid.
02:45:20.000 It pays you to not be self-sufficient, to not be connected? 0.99
02:45:22.000 Well, if shit hits the fan, I can unhook it and plug it into the lights. 0.99
02:45:25.000 Can you? 0.99
02:45:25.000 Yeah, yeah, I could, yeah. 0.99
02:45:26.000 And actually, no, I have lots of solar, though, outside of that system.
02:45:29.000 I have a—actually, you know, the van has solar panels on the roof, and there's— That's for electronics?
02:45:37.000 It's for electronics, yeah.
02:45:39.000 You can't really use solar for heat.
02:45:41.000 I've learned all this from the van.
02:45:42.000 So I work with these guys who've been really cool.
02:45:45.000 Battle Born Batteries, they're called.
02:45:47.000 And they make these batteries, lithium batteries, right?
02:45:51.000 They make them for boats.
02:45:52.000 They make them for...
02:45:54.000 Now off-grid houses.
02:45:55.000 And so I have like a couple of bunkies, you know, like the one I built and one that we kind of set up.
02:46:04.000 It's like a prefabricated building that we put back in the woods with a wood stove in it.
02:46:09.000 And, you know, this...
02:46:13.000 I have a trailer that I have solar panels on that butterfly out that I can take anywhere on the property which has these Battle Born batteries in it.
02:46:20.000 It's constantly charging.
02:46:21.000 So I do have some solar and the barn as well.
02:46:23.000 So the barn I have and these guys helped me set this up.
02:46:28.000 It's really cool.
02:46:30.000 I mean, I jokingly say the podcast that I'm going to do in the barn is going to be...
02:46:35.000 I'm sure it isn't, but I'm saying it's the first solar-powered barncast.
02:46:38.000 Okay.
02:46:39.000 It might be.
02:46:40.000 Maybe.
02:46:40.000 I don't know if there's one.
02:46:41.000 But it's like...
02:46:42.000 Because the barn has no power running to it.
02:46:44.000 It's off-grid.
02:46:45.000 But we have...
02:46:46.000 It's 200 yards from the house.
02:46:49.000 But we've, up in the loft, got this...
02:46:52.000 Battery, lithium battery array, solar panels that charge the batteries.
02:46:57.000 And then up in there I can run all my cameras, lights, everything.
02:47:02.000 Don't the batteries degrade on those things?
02:47:05.000 Like solar panels?
02:47:06.000 So lithium batteries have a really good life to them.
02:47:11.000 But they eventually degrade.
02:47:13.000 It might be 10 years or something like that.
02:47:15.000 I'm not sure.
02:47:15.000 But that's the lithium batteries.
02:47:18.000 It's kind of newer tech.
02:47:19.000 It's like...
02:47:21.000 That was the thing that You know, when COVID happened, I was like, I want to get a van and go in the desert.
02:47:31.000 So then I figured out who was making these vans.
02:47:36.000 And then I found out about the battery systems.
02:47:40.000 And then I was like, oh, you just have a regular plug in the van.
02:47:46.000 You can plug in your camera and charge your camera batteries.
02:47:48.000 You can run your laptop.
02:47:49.000 You can charge your phone indefinitely.
02:47:54.000 And, you know, spending, you know, so many years of my life running around making goofy videos, you know, when we were doing the Tom Green show and stuff, you know, you'd go on the road and then you have to go back to the hotel at night to charge your camera batteries, right?
02:48:05.000 The idea that you can go into the middle of the desert and just film indefinitely and charge your camera batteries because the sun is recharging these batteries constantly.
02:48:12.000 It's pretty dope.
02:48:12.000 It was dope.
02:48:13.000 I built a recording studio in the van.
02:48:15.000 Nice.
02:48:15.000 I was making, you know, music and beats out there and just kind of...
02:48:20.000 How long did it take before you felt comfortable around people again?
02:48:34.000 After I came on the show last time, and we talked about this, like, there's a general perception in the world all of a sudden that I was living in my van, okay, which I wasn't actually living in my van.
02:48:50.000 I might have been responsible for that perception.
02:48:52.000 No, it was hilarious.
02:48:53.000 Like, oh, I heard you're living in a van now.
02:48:55.000 People would say to me, I'm like, no, I'm living in a van.
02:48:57.000 I'm going camping and making videos in the desert.
02:48:59.000 No, but you were living in a van.
02:49:00.000 Yeah, I was.
02:49:01.000 You just had the ability to live in a very nice house if you wanted to.
02:49:04.000 Exactly. 0.72
02:49:04.000 It's not like you're a loser. 0.72
02:49:05.000 No, it was funny, though. 0.98
02:49:08.000 I mean, sometimes you think you are, and you go, oh, am I a loser?
02:49:13.000 But people would sort of say it to me.
02:49:17.000 Like they were sad.
02:49:17.000 Like they were sad.
02:49:18.000 Oh, I heard you're living in a van now.
02:49:20.000 Yeah, because you could be – like most people don't live in a van on purpose.
02:49:23.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
02:49:23.000 So it was kind of like the Chris Farley sketch.
02:49:26.000 I'm living in the van down by the river.
02:49:28.000 And it was funny how – I mean, again, the power of social media and the size of your audience, you know, it permeated out there pretty big that like pretty much – Everybody I meet thinks I'm living in a van down by the river now.
02:49:45.000 Well, that's like how we describe Hans Kim.
02:49:47.000 Hans Kim used to be living in a van.
02:49:49.000 Like, look at him now.
02:49:51.000 No one goes from Tom Green to living in a van unless things have gone horribly wrong, except you.
02:49:59.000 You did it on purpose.
02:50:00.000 And it was really driven by the fact that...
02:50:04.000 This power system allows me to go make videos in weird places and stay there.
02:50:08.000 You know, like these places, Chaco Canyon, it's not easy to get there.
02:50:11.000 I mean, it's easy enough.
02:50:13.000 I mean, two and a half hours out of – no, maybe it was more than that out of Albuquerque.
02:50:17.000 I forget the distance, but it was quite the drive.
02:50:19.000 And you're driving through – it's not on a direct route to anything.
02:50:22.000 And then once you get to the perimeter of it, really bad dirt road that you got to go down.
02:50:27.000 It's not maintained properly.
02:50:29.000 I suspect that in some ways it almost feels suspicious that like do they want to keep people out of here for some reason?
02:50:34.000 Why is this not talked about more?
02:50:35.000 I mean I sort of discussed this a little bit on the video.
02:50:38.000 It seems strange that it's not more celebrated by our society that there's stuff out there like that.
02:50:44.000 It's incredible and amazing and beautiful.
02:50:46.000 Trevor Burrus It doesn't have a good publicist.
02:50:48.000 That's all it is.
02:50:49.000 Because there are certain things that have – like Machu Picchu is a great publicist.
02:50:53.000 I think it forces people to confront the idea that what happened to the Native Americans in this country too and in North America and Canada.
02:51:00.000 We weren't that nice to them, were we?
02:51:02.000 So it makes us have to think about what happened.
02:51:05.000 But you were just saying that that place was abandoned in the 1100s.
02:51:07.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
02:51:08.000 So that has nothing to do with Europeans.
02:51:10.000 Sure, but just in general, just talking about pre-European – Not now, right? 0.57
02:51:16.000 But, you know, I think there was probably a period of time when, you know, they were settling Europeans, not just America, Canada too, right?
02:51:26.000 Settling North America where they didn't really want to acknowledge that there was civilization here before.
02:51:33.000 You know, it was more like they were, you know...
02:51:37.000 Eminent domain.
02:51:38.000 Yeah.
02:51:39.000 Yeah, they were trying to claim it.
02:51:40.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:51:41.000 I think there's definitely that.
02:51:43.000 There's a guilt attached to the way people feel about Native Americans and also just the understanding of what a reservation is.
02:51:51.000 You pushed them into this area that sucks and forced them to live there and all of their traditional land is gone.
02:51:59.000 It's all been absorbed by these people that just got here a couple hundred years ago, which is nuts.
02:52:03.000 It's so hard to imagine how different Oh, man.
02:52:15.000 Oh, wow.
02:52:17.000 That's a real Comanche arrowhead.
02:52:19.000 That's a big one, too.
02:52:21.000 That's probably something they used to shoot a large animal with.
02:52:26.000 Wow.
02:52:26.000 That's probably elk.
02:52:28.000 They had elk out here.
02:52:31.000 Elk were in most states.
02:52:32.000 They had always a lot of deer out here.
02:52:36.000 A lot of different animals.
02:52:37.000 But that's a big-ass arrowhead.
02:52:39.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:52:40.000 See, and it's like- Because there's some small ones too that they find, just find little tiny ones they might have used for like small game birds and things like that, but that's a big fucker.
02:52:49.000 See, I personally, the second I touched this, I felt sort of a sense of kind of, you know, shivers. 0.67
02:52:56.000 Wild, right?
02:52:56.000 Yeah.
02:52:56.000 I feel like, and maybe it's my mind just thinking about the history of it, but there's, you know, people talk about energy and I was like, is it- I used to hear people say when they go to Sedona, the energy there is amazing.
02:53:08.000 And I'm like, what are you talking about the energy, right?
02:53:10.000 But then when you go to these places, is it because you're just alone and you're relaxed and you're thinking about it so much?
02:53:16.000 But it's like you touch this and you go, well, you think somebody actually like carved this, right?
02:53:20.000 Somebody made this and then they...
02:53:22.000 Survived with this, right?
02:53:24.000 Like, however many thousand years ago or whatever.
02:53:26.000 And you go, whoa, that's incredible. 0.99
02:53:28.000 They mapped that thing and made it sharp and they did all these crazy techniques that they had learned how to make these fucking things. 0.98
02:53:36.000 And then they hunted with it. 0.98
02:53:37.000 And these people lived here forever until these Europeans just came in like a wave of locusts. 1.00
02:53:43.000 Yeah.
02:53:44.000 Yeah.
02:53:45.000 And so that's...
02:53:49.000 The battery system allows the van and the self-sufficiency of it.
02:53:53.000 Because normally if you drove there, let's say you drive six hours to get somewhere, right?
02:53:57.000 Right.
02:53:58.000 And then the sun's going down and there's no hotels nearby and there's nothing – so you're going to camp in a tent or something.
02:54:04.000 So then it's like not comfortable and you don't have – Right.
02:54:06.000 You're on your van.
02:54:07.000 Yeah.
02:54:08.000 So now you can drive there and stay for a while.
02:54:11.000 And then it's like...
02:54:13.000 You just have to make sure you have gas and water.
02:54:14.000 Yeah.
02:54:14.000 It's a different experience because now you're waking up to the sunrise over that and making coffee by yourself.
02:54:23.000 Thank God you didn't run into like the Manson family or something out there.
02:54:26.000 I had a few moments of...
02:54:28.000 Did you?
02:54:29.000 Wacky people?
02:54:30.000 I had a few moments of...
02:54:32.000 I don't know if they were wacky people, but your mind starts telling you that you got to be careful.
02:54:36.000 You know, like there was a moment, you know, there was a moment out in the desert where I, you know, was all alone out there in a truck on the Mexican border, actually.
02:54:47.000 And trucks coming from Mexico towards me.
02:54:51.000 And there's...
02:54:52.000 You know, there's signs out in the desert when you get to this.
02:54:54.000 This was actually in the Arizona-Mexico border.
02:54:57.000 It's this place called the Cabeza Prieta Wilderness Area, which is a decommissioned section of the former Barry F. Goldwater Air Force Base test range where they would test bombs in World War II, right?
02:55:09.000 And it's like really beautiful, like the cactuses and the… You want a cigar?
02:55:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:55:19.000 Absolutely.
02:55:20.000 I bet you that's a good one, too.
02:55:21.000 I'm sure you wouldn't be smoking some Swisher Sweets or something like that.
02:55:24.000 It's not a Century Sam or Philly's Blunt.
02:55:29.000 What are they?
02:55:30.000 It's a company called Foundation Cigars.
02:55:32.000 They actually made us our own cigar.
02:55:34.000 It's got a JRE logo on it.
02:55:36.000 Nice.
02:55:36.000 They're really good, though.
02:55:37.000 I was skeptical.
02:55:38.000 It's like this company.
02:55:39.000 But it's actually my man Nick from Foundation really knows cigars.
02:55:45.000 And...
02:55:47.000 The whole deal goes down to Nicaragua.
02:55:50.000 Is it lighter as well?
02:55:51.000 Yes, sir.
02:55:52.000 You know how it works? 0.98
02:55:53.000 Push down on that black thing. 1.00
02:55:54.000 Yeah, there you go. 1.00
02:55:55.000 Damn, okay. 0.98
02:56:01.000 So what was the most sketchy of encounters while you were out there doing that van life? 0.99
02:56:09.000 Well...
02:56:10.000 You got it.
02:56:12.000 You lit.
02:56:14.000 What was the sketchiest?
02:56:17.000 There was never anything where I actually was in danger, but there was the feeling of being in danger.
02:56:22.000 Well, actually, you might have been in danger.
02:56:24.000 It was definitely a feeling of being in danger.
02:56:28.000 So the van's coming up to you?
02:56:30.000 Yeah, it was like a truck.
02:56:31.000 You're in the van.
02:56:33.000 I could write it off in my head if I'm trying to be...
02:56:37.000 Positive, they were hunters, but they didn't necessarily look like hunters to me.
02:56:42.000 They were not in hunting gear, but they all had guns.
02:56:45.000 But they were rifles.
02:56:46.000 They weren't like assault rifles.
02:56:49.000 They were hunting rifles, and so they could have been hunting.
02:56:52.000 There was four guys, and they were— Openly brandishing their rifles?
02:56:56.000 No, they were sitting— All four of them.
02:56:59.000 This is what was weird.
02:57:00.000 Four of them.
02:57:01.000 They were probably hunters.
02:57:02.000 They were probably going hunting.
02:57:03.000 But they were sitting like this and they were sitting like this and their rifles were standing.
02:57:07.000 They were holding their rifles like that.
02:57:09.000 So I kind of assumed that they were going around looking for a deer or something like that.
02:57:14.000 But it was, you know, when you're all alone out there...
02:57:19.000 And you see a truck coming towards you and there's no one around.
02:57:22.000 No one's going to hear anything.
02:57:24.000 You know, you get a little nervous.
02:57:25.000 So I did get in the van and I locked the door and I'm in the van and I'm looking out of the van and they pulled up by the van and they're looking at my van and I see the guns in the van and I'm like, okay.
02:57:33.000 Are they speaking Spanish?
02:57:34.000 Well, they were, you know, they were, you know, whatever, 50 feet, 100 feet away.
02:57:38.000 Did you hear any words at all?
02:57:40.000 No, no.
02:57:41.000 I was locked in the van, you know, hiding.
02:57:45.000 I was hiding in the van.
02:57:46.000 I just turned 50 years older.
02:57:47.000 So they never got close to you?
02:57:49.000 No, no.
02:57:49.000 Then they drove away.
02:57:50.000 But there's this sort of five minutes of watching the truck get closer.
02:57:56.000 And so you go to the Cabeza Prieta Wilderness Area and it's along the Arizona-Mexico border and you know what the border is like.
02:58:02.000 So there's a lot of human trafficking and drug smuggling going on there as well as immigration going on there and people coming across the border illegally and all this stuff.
02:58:13.000 And so there was actually a sign when you drive in there.
02:58:17.000 That says, danger, human smuggling, drug smuggling, do not travel alone, okay?
02:58:22.000 So I still go because I'm with Charlie, right?
02:58:23.000 So I'm cool.
02:58:24.000 But this sign, I got a picture of this sign.
02:58:27.000 It's kind of interesting.
02:58:29.000 But it's also— Is that sign on your Instagram?
02:58:32.000 Probably is.
02:58:33.000 Yeah, for sure it is.
02:58:34.000 Yeah, if you scroll back to whatever that was three years ago, yeah.
02:58:39.000 I won't say that.
02:58:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:58:41.000 And so, yeah, danger.
02:58:44.000 Human smuggling.
02:58:45.000 Drug smuggling.
02:58:45.000 Do not travel alone, right?
02:58:47.000 So I, of course, stupidly go out there and I'm camping out there for a week.
02:58:50.000 But then you haven't seen anybody for five days, you know, and you're out there making videos and making, you know, ambient music, you know, drinking beer. 0.74
02:58:58.000 I have a fridge in there.
02:58:59.000 I have a nice fridge in the van too.
02:59:00.000 So I've got beer.
02:59:01.000 I've got, you know, some whiskey.
02:59:02.000 I'm just having a good time out there, you know, making music by myself.
02:59:05.000 And streaming, not always, but sometimes you'd have internet, you know?
02:59:09.000 So you'd stream, you know?
02:59:12.000 That was sort of a connection with the world, you know? 0.99
02:59:15.000 Streaming live from the middle of fucking nowhere. 0.99
02:59:17.000 The world's so crazy now. 0.99
02:59:18.000 And making beats in the middle of nowhere.
02:59:20.000 But, yeah, so that was...
02:59:24.000 You know, this moment where you're going like, well, maybe I shouldn't be here by myself.
02:59:29.000 And that moment was actually what kind of...
02:59:38.000 I actually tell the story when I do stand-ups.
02:59:40.000 I'm trying not to make it a bit here because sometimes – I don't want to do my bit.
02:59:44.000 But like I say, I do kind of incorporate it into my stand-up sometimes because I tell stories about this stuff.
02:59:50.000 But I ended up – it was what sort of spawned – I mean I went back to L.A. and I bought a gun the next day.
02:59:58.000 I'd never owned a – I hadn't owned a gun since I was 21 years old.
03:00:00.000 I had a 22 when I was like 20 – no, 24 years old.
03:00:03.000 I had 22. Hadn't owned a gun the whole time I was in L.A. I was going out in the desert by myself, feeling vulnerable by myself out there.
03:00:12.000 Yeah.
03:00:13.000 So I went back to L.A. and I went to- Especially to see four dudes with rifles staring at you.
03:00:17.000 Yeah.
03:00:17.000 And so then I went back.
03:00:18.000 Yeah, there it is.
03:00:19.000 Caution.
03:00:19.000 Illegal entry and drug smuggling activities are common.
03:00:23.000 Mm-hmm.
03:00:23.000 Within the refuge.
03:00:24.000 Be aware of your surroundings.
03:00:26.000 Do not travel alone or approach suspicious people or activities. 0.99
03:00:29.000 Holy shit. 0.99
03:00:30.000 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. 0.99
03:00:31.000 This is probably Department of the Interior.
03:00:34.000 It's probably Bureau of Land Management.
03:00:35.000 Land is a lot of the land out there too.
03:00:37.000 That's so scary.
03:00:38.000 And you realize how big it is.
03:00:40.000 Like, you know, it's one thing, you know, you hear about, you know, in this close to the cities where this happened going.
03:00:45.000 But when you go to these remote areas, right, and you're just, yeah, that's it.
03:00:48.000 That was it.
03:00:49.000 That was the week I was there.
03:00:51.000 That was right when that happened.
03:00:52.000 There's just nothing out there, huh?
03:00:53.000 Yeah.
03:00:53.000 So I went back to Burbank, went down to Guns Plus and picked up a.357 Magnum and a Benelli Montefeltro silver shotgun and got my hunting license and went quail hunting.
03:01:03.000 Why would you get a.357 Magnum?
03:01:07.000 Six shots.
03:01:08.000 I got the seven shot.
03:01:09.000 Oh, nice.
03:01:11.000 Yeah, because I thought that would be better to have one more.
03:01:14.000 No, honestly, I just, I honestly didn't really actually...
03:01:19.000 Think about it?
03:01:20.000 No, I didn't.
03:01:21.000 No, I did think about it.
03:01:22.000 I just, I didn't honestly think that I would ever have to use it, to be honest with you.
03:01:24.000 I just like that gun.
03:01:25.000 Oh.
03:01:26.000 I just think it's a beautiful looking gun.
03:01:27.000 Well, it's better to have that gun than no gun.
03:01:30.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:01:30.000 And I also thought, honestly, though, I actually have another answer to you because I was going to lots of places with bears.
03:01:36.000 And so I figured it would be good protection for bears, too, because I was going up into, like, the, you know, places in New Mexico where there's bears.
03:01:43.000 And I would go hiking by myself and, you know, you don't want to lug a shotgun around with you all the time.
03:01:47.000 So, you know, I'd sometimes bring that, you know, in Arizona and stuff.
03:01:52.000 That's smart.
03:01:52.000 But also, I mean, you know, it's honestly just kind of...
03:01:58.000 I don't know.
03:01:59.000 It's just a beautiful gun.
03:02:00.000 It is.
03:02:01.000 It's a classic.
03:02:02.000 Yeah.
03:02:03.000 I like that.
03:02:04.000 I love that gun.
03:02:04.000 Something about a revolver, too.
03:02:06.000 Yeah.
03:02:07.000 Watch that wheel spin, old-timey style.
03:02:09.000 Yeah.
03:02:09.000 Yeah, absolutely.
03:02:11.000 And there was sort of a sense of being out there on the range.
03:02:16.000 I like classic-looking guns.
03:02:20.000 Like now I have lever action.
03:02:22.000 I've been collecting.
03:02:23.000 Henry Rifle?
03:02:23.000 I have a new Henry.22, but I've got a couple vintage.
03:02:29.000 I like getting sort of vintage.
03:02:31.000 I just have five or six rifles, and I've just sort of found myself quite interested in it.
03:02:36.000 I've got an old Savage 99, 1970s.308.
03:02:41.000 It's like the wood.
03:02:42.000 The old guns have the wood on it, and it just feels like real.
03:02:46.000 All the newer stuff is more plastic and stuff.
03:02:50.000 A lot of carbon fiber.
03:02:51.000 Yeah, so I like them as wood.
03:02:54.000 We've got to get you hunting up there.
03:02:56.000 Eat your own food.
03:02:57.000 I would love to go at some point with somebody that knows what they're doing.
03:03:00.000 I have some friends that really want to take me out next year.
03:03:03.000 Oh, go with them.
03:03:04.000 Local guys?
03:03:05.000 Yeah, local guys, yeah.
03:03:07.000 I bet you have a shit ton of deer up there, dude.
03:03:09.000 There's a lot of deer at my place, yeah. 0.59
03:03:10.000 You can see them on my trail cam video with the wolves.
03:03:14.000 One deer, you eat it for three months.
03:03:16.000 Yeah, fill the freezer with it.
03:03:18.000 One deer.
03:03:19.000 You're eating it for months.
03:03:21.000 You shoot elk?
03:03:22.000 Six months.
03:03:23.000 I see your elk on Instagram and I go, man, that looks good.
03:03:26.000 So much meat.
03:03:27.000 So good, too.
03:03:28.000 So good for you.
03:03:29.000 I give it away.
03:03:29.000 I give it away to a lot of my friends.
03:03:31.000 Yeah, it looks good.
03:03:31.000 It's such a good thing to have.
03:03:33.000 There's not a lot of elk near me.
03:03:34.000 There are elk, but they're rare.
03:03:38.000 You don't see them in Ontario that much.
03:03:39.000 Do you hear them?
03:03:40.000 Do you hear them ever in the September time?
03:03:42.000 Moose.
03:03:42.000 Moose.
03:03:43.000 Yeah.
03:03:44.000 I've seen a moose once near my place, but deer all the time.
03:03:49.000 They're everywhere.
03:03:49.000 But listen, Tom Green, I'm super excited that you're at the Comedy Club, the Comedy Mothership this weekend.
03:03:54.000 It's an honor to be there, man.
03:03:55.000 It's always good to hang out with you and talk to you.
03:03:58.000 And I can't thank you enough because being on your show in 2007 really was a big part of the inspiration to do this.
03:04:06.000 And I would say you were a pioneer, man.
03:04:08.000 You had figured it out before anybody.
03:04:10.000 You had a full internet talk show running from your house.
03:04:14.000 And when you had me as a guest on, it changed the course of my life.
03:04:18.000 Because it really did.
03:04:19.000 Because it really was like...
03:04:20.000 I remember light bulbs just going off my head.
03:04:23.000 Like, why don't I do this?
03:04:24.000 I didn't have the money to do this.
03:04:27.000 So I started off with a laptop.
03:04:30.000 It was like the idea came out of you, man.
03:04:33.000 I just think it's the coolest thing that you shout that out and say that to me.
03:04:41.000 Because I appreciate it.
03:04:43.000 Because it's like...
03:04:43.000 When you came to do the show...
03:04:46.000 I was stoked that you were coming to do the show.
03:04:48.000 I'm doing my little web show and you came up and did the show.
03:04:51.000 We had done a couple things already, right?
03:04:53.000 Like we did that celebrity pool show.
03:04:55.000 Remember that?
03:04:56.000 Yeah.
03:04:57.000 That was just kind of one of those...
03:04:59.000 That was fun.
03:05:00.000 Yeah, it was fun, yeah.
03:05:01.000 And we did a bunch of stuff.
03:05:03.000 I'd always seen you around.
03:05:05.000 There it is.
03:05:06.000 Yeah.
03:05:06.000 Bro, it was like 2007. Yeah.
03:05:08.000 We were drinking beer.
03:05:09.000 I was like, this guy's got it nailed.
03:05:11.000 We're on the internet.
03:05:12.000 This is incredible.
03:05:13.000 I was so happy.
03:05:14.000 I was like, this is how to do it.
03:05:16.000 Look how bad the video was back then.
03:05:18.000 The kid was drinking with us online.
03:05:20.000 You know what's fun about that?
03:05:22.000 That's Skype.
03:05:23.000 We're taking calls on Skype.
03:05:26.000 I had some real good guys working for me.
03:05:30.000 I had my Jamie there. 1.00
03:05:32.000 You never had a Jamie, bitch. 1.00
03:05:36.000 Yeah. 1.00
03:05:36.000 We were trying to build stuff. 1.00
03:05:39.000 You guys had a whole server room.
03:05:41.000 I remember walking to your server room going, this is crazy.
03:05:43.000 I feel like I'm at some big corporation with all these lights are going off.
03:05:48.000 And I'm like, Thomas is wild.
03:05:50.000 So there's a microwave antenna on the roof of the house.
03:05:52.000 So that was the way we were able to stream.
03:05:54.000 Because back then you had to get bonded T1 lines or something like that, which were expensive, right?
03:05:59.000 I had a little bit of monetization, not much.
03:06:02.000 But you were working with a company out of Denver, right?
03:06:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:06:04.000 They were kind of the first people that I saw streaming.
03:06:07.000 So I was like, how does that work?
03:06:08.000 So I called them and then...
03:06:09.000 So we had a little, like a very small budget, but enough to get them...
03:06:12.000 Whatever happened to those guys?
03:06:13.000 They just kind of...
03:06:14.000 I'm not sure, actually.
03:06:15.000 I don't know.
03:06:16.000 I'm not sure.
03:06:16.000 But they were interesting guys.
03:06:18.000 And so I basically started with them and then I went off on my own and... 0.97
03:06:22.000 Well, listen, I'm glad you're going to do another one, because you're a very compelling and interesting person, and you always have a really good perspective, and you've led a fucking wild-ass life. 0.88
03:06:31.000 And I appreciate you. 0.93
03:06:33.000 Thank you.
03:06:33.000 Thanks for being here, brother.
03:06:34.000 Thanks, John, man.
03:06:35.000 Thank you.
03:06:35.000 And I think the shows are all sold out this weekend.
03:06:38.000 Yeah, unbelievable. 1.00
03:06:38.000 Tough shit, motherfuckers. 1.00
03:06:40.000 But sometimes, even if the club does sell out, we have a sign, like a neon sign. 1.00
03:06:45.000 There's tickets available now.
03:06:46.000 What happens is sometimes people can't make it.
03:06:49.000 Babysitter cancels.
03:06:49.000 Who knows?
03:06:51.000 But every now and then, even on sold-out shows, there's tickets available.
03:06:54.000 So if you go to the box office, maybe get lucky.
03:06:56.000 Okay.
03:06:56.000 Thank you, everybody.
03:06:57.000 Thank you, Tom Green. 1.00
03:06:58.000 You're the fucking man. 1.00
03:06:59.000 Oh, Instagram. 1.00
03:07:00.000 What is it?
03:07:01.000 Is it just Tom Green?
03:07:02.000 Yeah.
03:07:03.000 Tom Green Live?
03:07:03.000 Yeah, go check out my YouTube channel, YouTube slash Tom Green.
03:07:06.000 I'm putting a lot of stuff up on there now, which is kind of a little...
03:07:08.000 And then Tom Green on Instagram, Tom Green Live on Twitter, or X, and yeah, that's all the spots, TikTok.
03:07:15.000 And I'm shooting a special, actually.
03:07:16.000 I'm shooting a special for Amazon Prime, stand-up special.
03:07:18.000 Nice.
03:07:18.000 Nice.
03:07:19.000 Where are you doing that at?
03:07:20.000 Where are you filming?
03:07:20.000 Well, I'm going to shoot it in Ottawa, but I'm also doing a tour in April.
03:07:25.000 So I'm going to be in Cleveland, I'm going to be in Lexington, Kentucky, Louisville, Detroit, all over Michigan, Helium in Philly, and a lot of the spots.
03:07:36.000 So you can go check out my tour, and I'm going to film the whole tour too, and I'm going to kind of cut it together into a bunch of stand-up little montage.
03:07:43.000 So, yeah.
03:07:44.000 Thanks, Joe.
03:07:44.000 Well, I'm excited.
03:07:45.000 I'm excited to see you this weekend.
03:07:46.000 Okay.
03:07:47.000 That's it.
03:07:48.000 Goodbye.
03:07:48.000 Thank you.