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00:02:13.000That's one of those nighttime masturbation sessions.
00:02:15.000Here's my worst times when I'm on the road.
00:02:17.000When a flashlight would come in handy.
00:02:19.000And I know I'm going to only sit for two hours and have to go to radio, and I'd like to beat off into a sock, but I want to reuse that sock just for morning radio.
00:02:27.000I don't want to use a fresh sock for it.
00:02:30.000I feel like we're stepping on fortune cookie.
00:02:34.000You can't bring the flashlight with you, though.
00:03:06.000And they thought she was a spy, and so they went through her luggage for like four days.
00:03:11.000And she didn't have luggage for four days, and they were like asking her, because I guess they thought she was like a terrorist of some sort.
00:03:18.000Because there's no other girls her age that are not Jewish visiting Israel right now, I guess.
00:03:25.000And so she had to buy all new clothes.
00:03:29.000And then she said it was pretty fucking dirty and scary.
00:03:32.000There's people with machine guns everywhere.
00:03:34.000There are people with machine guns everywhere.
00:05:33.000Maybe your brain works better than mine all the time anyway.
00:05:35.000Maybe some people need nootropics and some people are like those kids that can look out a window of an airplane and then draw everything they saw in exact proportion.
00:06:58.000You need to rest your brain for a little while.
00:07:00.000Yeah, video games are really intensely exciting for the brain in a lot of weird areas.
00:07:08.000You know, I mean, they get you, like, you're really at war.
00:07:11.000This digital war is going on, you know?
00:07:13.000Especially the live, one-on-one internet battles.
00:07:16.000When I first found out that you could actually play a game with someone live, one-on-one, on the internet, I thought that was the coolest fucking thing I'd ever heard of.
00:07:26.000I didn't know anything about pings, so the first time I did it, I'd, like, log on to servers in, like, Sweden.
00:07:31.000I was like, yeah, I'm going to play some guy from fucking Sweden.
00:07:51.000And in between levels, whoever won that race, we'd all just pour out into the halls and start mocking each other while they were loading up the next level.
00:08:23.000You get away from the game and your hands are shaking.
00:08:26.000Your whole body's pulsating with adrenaline.
00:08:29.000Yeah, dude, we used to have these Quake land matches where we would all get together and we would have death matches where we would either have team matches where it would be our team and we'd go against other teams.
00:08:43.000We would just have melees where anybody was against everybody and we'd just run into a room and everybody would fucking kill everybody until there was one last man standing.
00:08:50.000We should talk about this on the podcast.
00:10:55.000Is that the one thing you catch by yourself?
00:10:57.000God damn, I've been watching that lately.
00:10:58.000You know, when I watched MC Chris was on your podcast, very nice guy, MC Chris, and this is not a criticism of him, but it made me realize it about myself, that he says, you know, a lot.
00:11:08.000And I'm like, God damn, bitch, you do too.
00:12:08.000In the future, somehow, we're not gonna talk.
00:12:11.000We're gonna have our phone talk for us.
00:12:13.000You said something really interesting the other day that I've been really thinking of, and it was a very valid point.
00:12:17.000You were saying that that's what autism is.
00:12:20.000That's what people that are emotionless, and that's what eventually, if we're all going to be connected digitally, there really won't be a need for emotions anymore.
00:12:29.000It's like that might be the next stage.
00:12:31.000A lot of people have speculated that what some of the autism spectrum disorders are is the human body possibly making a change.
00:12:41.000Getting ready for some new development?
00:13:00.000But something's happening, and there's a lot of kids that are experiencing this sort of a disassociated behavior.
00:13:06.000You know, and it's super unfortunate, but it might be representing, according to people way smarter than me, so I don't even know exactly what they're meaning by this, but they're saying that it might be representing a next stage in the development of human beings.
00:13:24.000And that as a result of all of our technological connection with each other and being able to text and send pictures and do everything sort of virtually to each other that slowly the human body is having less and less of a need of the extreme sort of emotional interaction that has sort of gotten us to where we are today.
00:13:52.000I get addicted to the computer and the phone.
00:14:52.000The world that we're living in, it's not filled with all these needs for violent explosions and running away from danger and all the shit that the body's programmed for.
00:15:04.000Entering to some sort of a symbiotic relationship with machines, and as it enters into this relationship with machines, it becomes less and less emotional.
00:15:13.000It's less and less interactive with humans, less and less dependent on that, and perhaps one day, ultimately, not dependent at all.
00:15:20.000Because one day, ultimately, if you expand on how far, how much of a connection we have with computers now, and how this didn't even exist at all just a hundred years ago, no electronics, no nothing a hundred years ago, Think of it.
00:15:33.000It's not outside the realm of possibility to envision some sort of a permanent interaction that humans are going to have with some sort of electronic environment.
00:15:43.000Like claws that would come out to hold your phone when you're typing on it.
00:15:46.000Something where, you know, you're much more interactive virtually than you ever are physically.
00:15:52.000And that you will eventually become a part of a fucking system.
00:15:57.000Like, you'll become an emotional part.
00:16:05.000That sounds like a way more evolved state.
00:16:07.000Well, you've got to think, I mean, we're hanging on to these goddamn emotions, these things that make us fly planes into buildings, and these things that make us want to, you know, jack other people, and I was reading CNN today, and that guy in, I believe it's Liberia?
00:17:15.000The whole story of Liberia is so crazy, and we've mentioned this before, but if you haven't heard the episode, please go and check out Vice Guide to Liberia.
00:17:24.000You want to see what's up with Liberia.
00:19:16.000Well, you're committing so far to terror and horror that you would probably be, I mean, the berserker mentality that they must have had to be able to do that to innocent children.
00:19:27.000I mean, just to be completely inhuman like that.
00:19:30.000And then the fact that this guy, all he has to do is just learn about some old stuff and learn about Jesus and find the Word of God.
00:19:38.000And everyone's like, all right, we're going to let you go, dude.
00:23:34.000In the end, Rick Santorum may not have won the nomination, but he succeeded in getting his message out, not just to Americans, but to people all aflat the world.
00:23:49.000to me ron paul looks like the guy who gets unhooded at the end of every scooby-doo episode it's great to see the gingriches here tonight because i guess that means the check cleared Oh, shit.
00:25:33.000Mr. President, I hope you don't think I'm out of line here, but marijuana is something that real people care about, and the fact that you believe Speaker Boehner, when he tells you he still has control of his party, leads me to believe that you must be smoking some crazy great weed yourself.
00:26:54.000Jon Stewart is so committed to politics and that political show that I don't watch it as much maybe as I would if it was just like if Jon Stewart had his own show instead of just The Daily Show.
00:27:04.000But I think he's also one of the best.
00:27:29.000I know, but I don't understand how he keeps it going, to take the opposite approach, the opposite side, in order to mock that opposite side.
00:28:56.000And, like, so they took her luggage for, like, three or four days, and she had to buy all new clothes, and they thought she was, you know, got questioned up and down, you know, and I guess they really thought that she was some kind of, like, you know, terrorist thing.
00:29:11.000There was a girl who was a Jewish photographer, and she was over in Israel, and she was taking pictures.
00:29:51.000Well, I think he's trying to let her know, like...
00:29:53.000You know, I don't think he knew that she was a journalist.
00:29:57.000I think he probably thought she was someone that was seeing this and she was taking pictures of it like she thought it was funny or cool or whatever.
00:30:06.000For whatever disrespectful reason, this chick had it on her laptop in his eyes.
00:32:34.000So in the meantime, you have to figure out a way to appease enough of them to give them the right amount of land and let the other ones not keep going to war with them.
00:32:41.000So when you say that it's in their book, is it in one of their religious books?
00:32:45.000No, the PLO when they started, that was one of their...
00:41:48.000You know, there's been a lot of discrepancies about how long it takes.
00:41:51.000There's a lot of arguments and disagreements about how long it takes for an entity to evolve.
00:41:56.000But one of the things they know is the Congo.
00:41:59.000The Congo is kind of a crazy place where it used to be grasslands.
00:42:03.000And then a rainforest essentially grew there really rapidly and over a period of 2,000 years became a dense, massive rainforest where it used to be grasslands.
00:42:14.000So all these grasslands animals got trapped in the jungle and had to evolve.
00:45:35.000And I got him because a friend of mine, she was living in this apartment building, and her and her boyfriend found them underneath the house.
00:50:41.000Why wouldn't you just say, okay, good, you're up for it?
00:50:43.000You would know more than anybody about how much of what you read when you were reading the Talmud, how much of what you read had been translated several times?
00:50:56.000How many times had it been translated before it got to when you're reading in modern-day Hebrew?
00:51:01.000How many times has it been transferred to get to that?
00:51:10.000Yeah, even with the same shapes of the letters.
00:51:12.000Is it the Old Testament that's different?
00:51:15.000Yeah, and then the Talmud, that was handed down like orally for a while.
00:51:19.000And they were afraid it was going to get lost because of some dispersion, so they wrote it down.
00:51:23.000The oldest versions of the Bible are the ancient Hebrew versions, except for the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is not technically considered the Bible, even though some of the stories are similar.
00:51:32.000So they said that the oldest versions were in ancient Hebrew, that the real problem was when they translated it to Greek and Latin, they said that they only knew like three quarters of the words in ancient Hebrew.
00:51:45.000Yeah, the specific meanings to words, they don't know all those because some of those words didn't make it to modern Hebrew and they don't really have a good lineage to say like where was this exact word.
00:51:55.000Like if I said, let's just say gently or lovingly, They could mean the same thing in certain times.
00:54:32.000What you guys represent, if you lived your lives birth to death, it's just a little room, a little tiny group of people, of a hundred people, but what you represent in terms of potential life...
00:54:41.000One person lived his whole life, the next person was born.
00:54:43.000If they lived their lives birth to death to the max, which is like a hundred years, which is the most anybody ever lives, they represent 10,000 years.
00:55:14.000And it's just a little tiny room full of people living their lives birth to death represents the distance between us of today and nothing written.
00:56:00.000But it's making me think, I mean, although obviously this is a work of, you know, fantasy fiction, it makes me think of what it must have been like, you know, if you had to live like these people lived.
00:56:18.000They did have castles, and they did have armies, and they did have moats.
00:56:22.000I mean, these are all realistic, you know, realistic It's hard to wrap your head around how short of a distance it is between that time when people lived like in the Robin Hood days and today.
00:57:39.000I mean, you have to be the ultimate craftsman.
00:57:42.000I mean, if you and I were left alone to figure it out on our own for a million years, we'd never figure out how to make a fucking samurai sword.
00:57:52.000They hammer it down, then they fold it over, and then they hammer it down.
00:57:55.000They keep flattening it and hammering it and flattening it and hammering it until it becomes this intense steel that you can just fucking slice through bamboo.
00:58:05.000It's really amazing watching the artisan work, the craftsmanship, and the knowledge passed down through generations and generations of how to make a sword.
00:58:16.000You know, when you stop and think about it, it's like, how many people are out there in the world today that know how to make anything even remotely like that?
00:58:24.000Everything we're buying that's manufactured is manufactured in some sort of a factory.
00:58:28.000And if you're going to buy a sword, this is a big machine that's going to cut it and make it with a computer and a laser and shit.
00:58:34.000There's not going to be some Japanese dude in flip-flops with wooden bottom shoes.
01:00:05.000Who would have ever found some metal in the ground and thought for a second that someone is going to take this shit and have so much of it that they're going to have a fucking 5,000 foot long cable made of steel and they're going to use that to suspend giant beams that weigh several hundred tons over an ocean.
01:04:17.000You should be a fucking taxpaying grown adult who walks in there and acts like a gentleman and picks up whatever the fuck you need.
01:04:24.000Whether you'd like to buy a bottle of wine to go with dinner or whether you'd like to get an eighth of weed because you and your chick are going to watch movies and fuck.
01:08:30.000These crowds are completely different crowds.
01:08:32.000The crowds that we're getting now are 100% podcast fans.
01:08:36.000And it's like hanging out and doing a show in front of our friends.
01:08:40.000It's like a bunch of friends that we don't know that And the other people who come just to come for shows, they're like, oh, this is a really fun thing.
01:09:47.000This is what Louis said too, after you do the first year, when you start the same process again the next year and it seems as daunting as it does right now, you'll be like, oh no, I know this leads to a new hour of material.
01:11:22.000I'd at least feel like I'm capable of something.
01:11:25.000If I could go on stage, if I'm feeling like a loser, I'm feeling depressed, and I'd go on stage and get a bunch of people to laugh, I'll just be like, okay, I'm not bad at this.
01:16:29.000If I had to have a conversation with Adolf Hitler, if I had to go back in time and have a conversation with Adolf Hitler, I wouldn't start calling him a cunt and say crazy stupid shit to him, even though I know he's a piece of shit.
01:19:09.000No, this guy's right now, this motherfucker, I swear, if I find your red band, red band, I'm going to spit right in your fucking stupid t-shirt.
01:21:36.000At the end of the day, though, my friend who's on it all the time said that sometimes if he has to do something late at night, like a late night show, it's badly timed.
01:21:45.000Because he takes his stuff at a certain time every day.
01:21:47.000So if there's a late night show, it fucks him up.
01:21:51.000If I take one of those five-hour energies...
01:26:04.000I heard him on Nick Opie and Anthony yesterday.
01:26:06.000A friend of mine lived in the Hollywood Hills, or rather his friend lived in the Hollywood Hills, and he had a dope house with a theater, but when they were watching the movies, he goes, when the movie comes on, he goes, put your feet up, because sometimes rats run across the floor.
01:29:08.000Yeah, it's so delicious that, I mean, this has been talked to death by comedians, but the idea of, it's become sort of almost like a hacky joke.
01:33:03.000Sell at 17. And it's kind of a crazy place because the girls are all really pretty and they're like scantily clad and they serve excellent food and there's all these rich guys out there.
01:33:12.000You always see them like movie stars and shit.
01:33:14.000But it's a club, you know, and you're allowed to smoke cigars at this club.
01:33:18.000They should make a place where, you know, it's a comedy club.
01:33:20.000Why don't they have pot rooms like this?
01:34:32.000If you could be there doing a show while that goes down, You might go to jail, too.
01:34:36.000Every time I want to wait when your car doesn't ever get renewed, let's say it ends May 1st, you're like, I'll just buy a bunch of weed April 29th, and that'll last me until June 30th.
01:34:44.000But then you're like, what am I doing?
01:34:46.000Well, I'm just trying to buy two months for the fucking $45 it costs.
01:34:48.000It is beautiful that you could just go to a store and buy it.
01:35:41.000I wrote this whole thing about this Trayvon Martin thing when that kid got shot and there was all these people that were rallying one way or another.
01:35:49.000My problem is nobody really knows what happened.
01:37:06.000It's silly when you stop and think about, say, the history of China or the history of Japan, one country that's been in one place for thousands of years.
01:37:14.000I mean, there's a true history to Japan, and there's a history of obedience, and there's a history of order and discipline, and the tradition of it is far stronger than it is in this country.
01:37:28.000If I had to choose between living in Japan or living with Jamiroquai, I would say I'm going to live in Japan because I would kill that dude.
01:37:41.000You wouldn't want to have him as a roommate.
01:38:13.000Yeah, there's a noticeable, and I'm not saying it's a perfect society or utopia or anything like that, but there's a noticeable leap up in impatience and a noticeable leap up in kindness and the way people interacted with people.
01:38:51.000Yeah, well, I found it quite fascinating.
01:38:54.000I mean, I've been to several different countries now, and it really does illuminate you.
01:38:59.000You know, Ari and I went to Brazil recently, and we were sitting, it was like 7 o'clock in the morning, we may or may not have just smoked some weed, and we're sitting on this balcony overlooking this beach, and it's beautiful.
01:39:29.000I don't think Brazil is better than America or America is better than Brazil, but I know that that way of living is better than the way that most people here live.
01:42:59.000There's hundreds of them all over the world.
01:43:01.000And if these reactors keep fucking up in different spots of the world, we're going to have giant areas of our world that's contaminated and dead for hundreds of thousands of years.
01:43:12.000And that's the reality that we're operating under and living under right now.
01:43:16.000While you and I are sitting here talking on this laptop, and our information is being passed through the internet, there's lights that are on, and you're going to get in your car and you're going to go, and electricity is going to fucking power that gas meter when you pump gas at the gas station, and there's going to be an electron.
01:44:40.000Wait, Brian, how does your brain work where we were on a conversation about nuclear power and stuff, and you asked about the safety of nuclear power?
01:44:59.000You know those little toys you used to buy when you were a kid, like those little pewter toys, like whatever that is, if you poured like a billion gallons of that.
01:45:06.000Well, I think the real issue is they can't cool it down.
01:47:33.000Because then he could get it because he could get it from what are called prions.
01:47:36.000And that's the concern with people eating beef that came from England during a certain period of time when mad cow disease was running rampant.
01:47:43.000The idea is that You could have possibly gotten this Jacobs-Cruzard disease.
01:47:47.000Had people started showing symptoms of that ever?
01:48:07.000It's, you know, it's amazing that they're so greedy and stinky and disgusting that they've actually decided that there's a good way to save money.
01:48:19.000With any company that makes that decision, the government should come in like stormtroopers and close their fucking shop down and make it a socialist place.
01:48:27.000They should take over and feed the cows only grass.
01:49:14.000I think it's 12. I have an idea because I need to get rid of one of my cats because it just doesn't work well with my dog and the other cat hates it too.
01:52:36.000But then I started dating younger girls, and then I had to re-go through all their drug experiences, and now I'm back into how I was when I was 21 again.
01:52:44.000Well, I think it's all about the intent.
01:52:47.000What are you trying to accomplish out of using it?
01:52:50.000Are you trying to find something out about yourself?
01:52:52.000Are you trying to have a spiritual journey that you go on?
01:53:03.000Because I think a lot of times when you do that and you don't go into a trip, you can take a mushroom trip for granted, and a mushroom trip can kick your fucking ass.
01:53:12.000Yeah, that can be just fun, too, though.
01:55:51.000No, I mean, I fell to the ground and I could not stand up.
01:55:55.000That's not a good example for the youth of America.
01:55:57.000No, and I don't think that's anything that people should try unless they do a shitload of research and make sure they're safe and good age.
01:57:34.000I mean I recorded myself and I talked like I was fine and I felt like I knew what was going on but it was more of like I felt like a poisoned...
01:57:44.000What's like the best thing you ever learned from a trip?
01:57:47.000Have you ever come out of a trip and had like, this is like a real solid revelation?
01:57:54.000I always have revelations every single time.
01:57:58.000Like, the last one I did, which was...
01:58:01.000I did in a shitty hotel room, and I did a whole podcast with the other girl I did it with, and it's on Death Squad, but...
01:58:28.000I did it with my friend Pamela Walt and Amy Hawthorne, and we just went to this really, really, really, really shitty hotel in a really scary place.
02:00:13.000And then immediately started realizing like wait a second.
02:00:16.000We don't want to be here for six hours trapped in this room I need to be a babysitter because this might be really bad That's some like fear and loathing in the middle of the desert type shit.
02:00:35.000About getting fucked up on mushrooms in the wrong hotel.
02:00:38.000It was bad because every time I wanted to go have a cigarette I had to go outside and one time there was this black dude that was running really fast then he hid behind a wall and he looked out and he looked right at me and I'm like, oh shit, I saw him.
02:00:48.000And then he started running as fast as he can.
02:00:50.000He was I'm absolutely hiding from somebody.
02:00:58.000But I would go out and have a cigarette and I started like, I had this cell phone case that had all these little diamonds on it, kind of like these little gem cells.
02:03:58.000Yeah, those are the same people that like a long time ago when people used to do acid and they'd be like, dude, I just did 12 hits of acid.
02:04:56.000When Terry Edom got wheel kicked in the head by Edson Barbosa.
02:05:00.000Edson Barbosa cracked him with this wheel kick, and as he's going down, you and Joe Silva are right there, and you put your hands on your head like, holy shit!
02:07:05.000Because you'd have to bring in 80,000 people from other parts of Brazil and the world who would want to come in and fly in to see that fight.
02:07:23.000I think as far as what I've read is that they're still going to do a fight in Brazil that week, but they're locking down where that's going to be and who's going to be on that card.
02:08:52.000You look at it, it makes you chill out.
02:08:55.000A lot of AA people, when you have to have a higher power, they make you have a higher power, but some people don't want to say God, so they can say it's like the ocean, just only more powerful than you are.
02:12:54.000Because one of the things that I thought about while I was working out, while I took the time off, was when I was working, I was training to go back and roll.
02:13:53.000I mean, like when someone tells you you can't get a good workout on an elliptical machine, like, bitch, you're crazy.
02:13:57.000When I'm in hotel rooms, if I'm staying in a hotel and they say, oh, all they have is an elliptical machine, I can get a fucking ferocious cardio workout in on an elliptical machine.
02:17:16.000And it also, because the fact that your legs have done so much more work and they're stronger, you're less likely to have them buckle on you.
02:20:46.000But he's a real master when it comes to training and different things that you can do to keep your body healthy as you get young.
02:20:56.000He has a whole series, a DVD series, all on joint mobility and how important it is to stretch as you get older.
02:21:02.000Your range of motion, especially if you're just sitting in an office, your range of motion is going to get more and more limited because you're not doing shit.
02:21:30.000If you keep doing it, you can keep it up.
02:21:32.000But if you take off just like a few months, if you take off just a few months of training and don't work out and don't do shit for a few months, your body will turn to a sack of shit.
02:22:11.000But I couldn't do shit in hopes that...
02:22:13.000I didn't want this operation to be fucked up because I was without a nose to breathe out of for most of my life and I knew how terrible it was.
02:22:20.000But then once I did it, I was in a race to get back in shape.
02:24:34.000We don't have 30 people that are good enough to represent us.
02:24:36.000Oh hell yeah, if you start grabbing and telling these Steve Renazzis and all these Freddie Lockhart's and be like, hey, do you want to come?
02:24:52.000And then you might even find that if it's a big enough thing that there's just people that want to hang out for a weekend, like a party style.
02:24:59.000So you might get, like, maybe Greg Fitzsimmons would be like, hey, I want to come to this, you know, and shit like that.
02:25:48.000How about we do an ice house, continual ice house shows and we'll have like bands go up and perform at the ice house.
02:25:55.000We'll have two shows going on at the same time at the ice house and just take over the club for like a whole week and have all of our friends come in.
02:26:04.000Have all of our friends come in that we, you know, all of our friends like from out of town that we know that are great comics that maybe live in Texas.
02:26:12.000I'll bring in Stan Hope and pay for him and put him up in a hotel and give him the door, 100% of the door, and pump the show up and set it up so it's both profitable for guys and it looks like it's fun.
02:26:37.000Step two is we're going to broadcast the podcast to all the people waiting in line.
02:26:41.000So while the people are waiting in line, as they're going in, we'll be doing the podcast with speakers outside in that little courtyard area.
02:33:16.000We did a little bit of it at the end of the show in Atlanta, but it was more like mocking people for their stupid questions and more moon landing hoax conspiracy talk.
02:34:48.000How many people that are in your little network get upset that you have the network as the name of their show and then their show next instead of the way everybody else has it?
02:34:57.000I think out of, let's say, if there was 100,000 people, I think I hear it maybe two times on Twitter.
02:36:33.000So it's almost like he wasted time doing a good podcast under your name and never got his name out there.
02:36:38.000So when his name got out there on its own, it flopped because no one knew about it.
02:36:42.000So he had been doing all this podcasting and spending all this time developing this sort of bunch of fans to follow him, and he couldn't take it with him.
02:36:51.000Whereas if he just did it on his own, whatever he built up would have been his own.
02:37:00.000Do you know how many podcasts that there's comics out there that you've never heard of in your life?
02:37:04.000Did you know Mark Ellis had two podcasts?
02:37:06.000Yeah, but Mark Ellis is not a famous comedian.
02:37:08.000You know, Freddie Lockhart, first of all, was on a television show, and he's been on our podcast many, many times, and, you know, Mark Ellis...
02:37:14.000No, but it still would be nice if people could search for his name.
02:37:19.000The real thing is, like, the question is, do you do it the way Adam Carolla does it, where he has, you know, like, someone's, whatever the, like, Penn Sunday School, and then underneath that, it says Ace Broadcasting.
02:37:30.000he has it in a secondary position and he allows the the person's name of their podcast that's first yeah and he's just the production arm of it so you can build up that name yeah whereas brian the way brian does it is he has a channel and you know it's the death squad channel and then everybody else's podcast is sort of secondary to that it's the exact opposite it's collecting it it builds up the network it builds up the network as a whole instead of building up each individual as an entity on their own an individual Everyone helps each other.
02:37:59.000If you're a big Sam Tripoli fan, you start listening to Sam Tripoli, you're going to start listening to Brennan Walsh and vice versa.
02:38:03.000There's so many people that never knew who Brennan Walsh was until they just were like, well, I like Freddie Lockhart.
02:38:09.000I'm going to start listening to Brennan Walsh now because they're on the same network.
02:38:13.000Well, that's also the case of what people didn't know about until they came onto this podcast.
02:38:18.000There would be people who were like, oh, I don't like, let's just say, Brendan Walsh's podcast, so they get annoyed and don't listen to the same Tripoli podcast.
02:38:26.000They get turned off by the stuff they're not into, and they're like, how much of this do I have to sit through before I do the stuff I do like?
02:38:38.000If there's six things that are there and you're only into one of them, it's just like you're less likely to check in to see when there's updates.
02:38:43.000Well, my only thought is that someone, if they're developing their own shit on their own, if they're doing their own show on their own, and they start, like Doug Loves Movies.
02:38:54.000Started out on his own, kept it on his own, and at this point in time...
02:38:56.000He does live shows that Doug Loves Movies and people come.
02:38:58.000Yeah, he has equity that he's built up in that name and doing it on his own.
02:39:02.000And for a lot of these other guys, they're building equity into the Death Squad name.
02:39:38.000It'd be nice if there's a way to stay on death squad, but also have their own picture for their podcast or something, so you can see it's their picture.
02:40:37.000That in 20 years, podcasts are going to be fucking kicking ass or anything.
02:40:42.000But one thing I do know that's coming up is the basic future of cable television and networks and stuff are going to more of a streaming-based, a download-based system like Netflix or iTunes.
02:41:10.000This is more than just you're listening to a podcast at your house.
02:41:13.000This is like a TV show network where each one of these shows are like...
02:41:17.000It's like being on DeathSquad.TV, but it's like being on MTV. And each one of these things underneath it is a show.
02:41:26.000And so one of the biggest things with all the people saying, you know, like, I want it to be separated into all the different things on iTunes and all that stuff...
02:41:33.000If you don't want to just go to desklaw.tv and download what you want to listen to, we're making these show pages right now where, as an example, if you like the naughty show, it's going to have all the naughty shows and it's going to have an RSS feed, which you can do right now in any browser.
02:41:50.000If you open up your browser and pick a search string of any kind, you can make an RSS feed.
02:42:08.000So anyways, but each one of these pages, like the Naughty Show page and stuff like that, will have all the individual shows for each person, and it's going to have, each host is going to have a PayPal A show donation.
02:42:23.000How many of your network shows are you actually in?
02:42:39.000No, because it's quality control for everything.
02:42:41.000I mean, there's shows like I love Esther to death, but if I wasn't there and just put it up, I would be mad at myself for fucking letting you listen to it, and vice versa.
02:42:55.000Sometimes there's a quality that all these people get where when Ari was on Death Squad, he sent me one file once, and it was like one person was really loud, one person was super, super quiet, and you couldn't hear it.
02:43:10.000And I know Ari was angry at me for not wanting to put that up.
02:43:13.000No, I was angry at you for saying, we're not putting it up before you let me listen to it.
02:43:29.000I mean, because a lot of people don't know that, yeah, I'm on these podcasts because I'm fucking producing them.
02:43:33.000I told Callan, because after he told me his stuff was the same way, it wasn't coming through, I was like, you know you have to get microphones and cords for that, right?
02:45:47.000It's more of the same thing if you listen to Howard Stern, if you listen to any of the shows that have producers like E-Rock or anything like that.
02:46:00.000I'm just saying that to call it the Death Squad is kind of weird because the Death Squad is supposed to be all of us and most of the people that are in the Death Squad aren't on the Death Squad.tv site.
02:46:10.000Okay, so if one of you other guys did something with the Death Squad name, then go for it.
02:48:39.000But does that mean I'm not allowed to say, hey, I'm going to use that as a name for a podcast network about all you guys?
02:48:44.000I can't even believe that you don't see another side of this.
02:48:47.000I can't believe that you don't see a little bit of a side of this.
02:48:49.000I see what you're saying, but it's kind of funny that I've been doing it since 2007 and now you're just making it All I've said ever is that it should be, all of us included, the guys that aren't in a podcast network with you that you don't profit from.
02:49:58.000Because there's somebody that you might want on there that I might not want on there and there might be somebody that already wants on there.
02:50:03.000You don't think Duncan deserves to be in because you and him are having an argument?
02:50:06.000You don't think that Duncan deserves to be a part of the Death Squad?
02:50:09.000You were trying to tell me before, but I don't like any arguments when you were...
02:50:13.000The argument comes from Duncan getting upset at Brian when we were in Atlanta, saying that Brian doesn't pay the comedians when he charges money for the shows at the Ice House, and that he should.
02:51:07.000He does this video where it says that Southwest by Southwest makes a shitload of money, whatever it's called, and they don't pay people to come out there because he was offered to come out there and he didn't get paid.
02:51:17.000And so what I had brought up is that I had been hearing that it really, it's all about the venues.
02:51:24.000Like Southwest by Southwest is like a blanket name, kind of like a death squad.
02:51:27.000And it's into each of the venues that if they want you to come out and play their bar, that they might pay you.
02:51:35.000But Southwest doesn't do anything except promote it as a big party.
02:51:40.000They do advertising and promotions and stuff like that.
02:52:18.000And then I pay, usually if there's any people like Little Esther or anyone that I know that is like fucking, you know, like they don't even have gas money to get there, I'll throw them 20 to 40 bucks sometime.
02:52:29.000And like as an example, this last one, I gave, you know, Little Esther money, I gave Mark Ellis some cash and, you know, I spread it out.
02:52:49.000One, because I don't get paid until the following week.
02:52:52.000Anything I pay for that night is I have to go to an ATM, I have to take out money, and I have to fucking go, alright, how much money did I make?
02:53:25.000So what my average usually is, is about $200 to $300 I make on a show.
02:53:31.000I usually spend about $100 giving it to Miss Elaine's comics to $150.
02:53:37.000And the other $150 to me is like, okay, now I could either not do the show or make $150 for booking a show, advertising a show, and producing all that show.
02:55:31.000What I'm saying is the only reason why they even can attack you is because there is a point of view that they're expressing that may be valid.
02:55:38.000It's the same as South by Southwest where their version is this, like, well, you should want to be here.
02:55:43.000And you're like, yeah, I do want to be there.
02:55:44.000But it would also be nice if the money you're collecting for these shows in Austin would come to some of us who are doing the shows for you.
02:55:50.000There's good in having those shows there.
02:55:52.000I think it's good for the comedy club.
02:56:54.000You have this tendency during an argument to bring up something else you've done nice for a person to then And somehow mean, so how dare you bring up this A argument when I've done B and C for you?