The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2116 - Kevin James

00:00:13.000 Let's go shimmy! 0.99

00:00:16.000 Most people don't know about shimmy.

00:00:18.000 They don't know about your alter ego.

00:00:20.000 No.

00:00:21.000 Well, yeah, you were the one who brought it out of me.

00:00:27.000 We were, right?

00:00:28.000 Well, we would do shows.

00:00:30.000 We would do shows in New York, and you would go full shimmy.

00:00:33.000 I'd be on the side of the stage yelling out, shimmy! 1.00

00:00:37.000 Well, when we first started, by the way, we did the Joe Rogan experience 30 years ago.

00:00:44.000 Yeah.

00:00:44.000 Just hanging out.

00:00:46.000 Exactly.

00:00:46.000 Just playing pool.

00:00:47.000 Yeah.

00:00:49.000 I remember Sussman brought you into town.

00:00:52.000 You started at Knicks?

00:00:53.000 Was it Knicks?

00:00:53.000 I started at Stitches in Boston.

00:00:56.000 Stitches.

00:00:57.000 And then I was like two years in when I met you.

00:00:59.000 And then I think we met at Eastside, which was awesome.

00:01:03.000 Great club.

00:01:04.000 What a great club.

00:01:04.000 I was just there.

00:01:05.000 Shout out to Richie Manervini.

00:01:06.000 Yes, my man.

00:01:08.000 It was the greatest.

00:01:09.000 The greatest place to go.

00:01:11.000 I remember it would be a line around the block, two shows like on a Wednesday night.

00:01:16.000 It was insane comedy then.

00:01:18.000 The golden age of comedy at the time.

00:01:21.000 1990?

00:01:22.000 Yes.

00:01:22.000 Oh my God, it was incredible back then.

00:01:24.000 91-ish?

00:01:24.000 I started at 89. I think I met you in, what is it, 91?

00:01:29.000 Ninety-one maybe?

00:01:30.000 Ninety?

00:01:30.000 Ninety-one?

00:01:30.000 Somewhere in there.

00:01:33.000 And I was, you know, I was following everybody.

00:01:36.000 That was my thing.

00:01:37.000 Like, I was being the stand-up comedian with the, you know, the jacket sleeves pushed up and the bolo tie.

00:01:44.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:01:44.000 I was just that straight thing.

00:01:46.000 And you came into town and we were like, who is this dude?

00:01:49.000 Like, you just didn't care about anything.

00:01:51.000 And it was like, you've always remained the same.

00:01:54.000 And it was just incredible to watch.

00:01:56.000 We were like, whoa, he just doesn't care.

00:01:59.000 And that's what you were, you would work with me on that.

00:02:03.000 You would be like, brother, you can't be like you're handing out a platter of food for these people.

00:02:08.000 Like, do what you want to do.

00:02:09.000 And I was like, I just got to get good.

00:02:11.000 Yeah, I got to wrap my head around that.

00:02:12.000 You're right.

00:02:13.000 You know, I would just try to make the audience so happy.

00:02:17.000 You're like, stop it.

00:02:18.000 Stop it.

00:02:19.000 And you gotta let go.

00:02:20.000 And you'd get me going crazy.

00:02:22.000 I'd get all fired up there.

00:02:24.000 I'd be like yelling at people.

00:02:25.000 They'd be like, whoa!

00:02:25.000 It's like, why?

00:02:26.000 Maybe we bring it back a little bit.

00:02:27.000 But it was different, man.

00:02:29.000 It really was.

00:02:31.000 It really taught me to, most of all, to be comfortable in front of an audience and not care about them.

00:02:38.000 I literally battle with it, to this day, that anxiety of, oh gosh, I get nervous and I start overthinking things.

00:02:45.000 So, but it really helped me to say, like, just do what you do.

00:02:48.000 And it's almost like the, because the audience is like a dog, right?

00:02:51.000 They sense fear.

00:02:54.000 100%.

00:02:55.000 Yeah.

00:02:55.000 They're animals.

00:02:56.000 Just like we are.

00:02:57.000 We're all animals.

00:02:58.000 That's right.

00:02:59.000 And it's like, they know when, you know, and if you're comfortable, even if you're faking it, they'll go with you, you do a joke, and you're confident.

00:03:07.000 They'll laugh just because they think it's funny.

00:03:09.000 They look around and everybody's like, oh, it must be funny because he's just got confidence.

00:03:12.000 And you had that confidence always, man.

00:03:14.000 You were always insanely intense and just never looked back.

00:03:17.000 Way to go, man.

00:03:19.000 Way to go for you, too.

00:03:20.000 You just always needed a hype man.

00:03:22.000 You just need someone to let you go.

00:03:25.000 Like, give him the green light.

00:03:26.000 Give him the green light!

00:03:28.000 It's so funny.

00:03:28.000 You're right.

00:03:29.000 You're right.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, you just needed a hype man.

00:03:31.000 You were the one who did it for me in Montreal, too.

00:03:33.000 Yeah.

00:03:34.000 Do you remember that?

00:03:36.000 By the way, do you remember the beer we would drink?

00:03:39.000 There were two kinds of this beer.

00:03:41.000 I can't remember this.

00:03:42.000 Canadian beer.

00:03:43.000 I've been racking my brain to think about it.

00:03:46.000 There was like a gold version of it and like an amber.

00:03:50.000 And it was just the greatest stuff.

00:03:51.000 And we'd get fired up up there and I loved it, man.

00:03:53.000 I loved going to that Montreal Comedy Festival.

00:03:55.000 Oh, it was the best.

00:03:56.000 Back when it was...

00:03:57.000 I think it's gone under.

00:03:59.000 I think they just announced they're going bankrupt.

00:04:02.000 Oh, really?

00:04:04.000 Yeah, unfortunately.

00:04:06.000 See, well, she'd tell people what it was.

00:04:08.000 So what it was during our time, when we were young, was the Montreal Comedy Festival was where young comedians would go up and you could kind of get a deal.

00:04:18.000 And that's where you got the deal to do the King Queens.

00:04:20.000 Well, I got the deal to do NBC. Right.

00:04:23.000 And that turned in.

00:04:24.000 Once that failed, that went into CBS. But once you get in, the thing about, people should know, like in the 90s, there was this thing that was happening where everybody looked at a comedian like, this could be the next Roseanne.

00:04:37.000 This could be the next Tim Allen.

00:04:38.000 This could be the next Seinfeld.

00:04:40.000 So every time they looked at you, they're like, what do you got?

00:04:43.000 What do you got for me?

00:04:44.000 And the agents would try to put it together as a sitcom.

00:04:46.000 Yes.

00:04:46.000 And they had this showcase called the Montreal Comedy Festival, the Just for Laughs Comedy Festival.

00:04:51.000 And it was...

00:04:52.000 The most insane thing.

00:04:54.000 You would go there, and it would change your life.

00:04:56.000 You could have one set, one 15-minute set, and all of a sudden, you got a half a million dollars.

00:05:01.000 A hundred percent.

00:05:02.000 You have one set that pops, and people talking about, there's a buzz, and it's like, you're in.

00:05:06.000 You're set.

00:05:07.000 And they have bidding wars.

00:05:08.000 Yes.

00:05:08.000 So, like, CBS, Fox, they would all be throwing in, and, you know, there's guys that walk, do you remember Chicken?

00:05:15.000 Chicken was the crazy guy?

00:05:16.000 Yes!

00:05:17.000 Yes!

00:05:18.000 Chicken got the deal that killed the deal.

00:05:21.000 Yes, yes.

00:05:21.000 He got like $800,000 or something.

00:05:24.000 It was some crazy money or I don't know what it was.

00:05:26.000 Some nutty amount of money.

00:05:27.000 But he had no act, right?

00:05:28.000 It was after that they thought he was...

00:05:30.000 He just tricked everybody.

00:05:32.000 He did.

00:05:32.000 And I don't know how he did it and I wonder if he had a hype man if you could have kept tricking people.

00:05:37.000 Yeah.

00:05:38.000 Maybe he just went off the rails with anxiety when success starts.

00:05:42.000 Because that's one of the things that does happen.

00:05:44.000 And I've talked about it.

00:05:45.000 I think everybody admits it.

00:05:47.000 When it first starts happening, you think it's going to go away.

00:05:50.000 You get super anxiety ridden.

00:05:52.000 You feel like an imposter.

00:05:55.000 And you'd show up on the set and you're like, are they kicking me out?

00:05:59.000 I'm still here?

00:06:00.000 My bud, I'm telling you, I've...

00:06:03.000 I still deal with that.

00:06:04.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:06:05.000 You obviously don't, and you haven't.

00:06:07.000 I do, though.

00:06:08.000 Do you really?

00:06:09.000 Yeah, I do.

00:06:09.000 I just ignore it.

00:06:10.000 I tell it to shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:06:11.000 Well, that's what you got to do, I guess. 0.99

00:06:12.000 And that's what I don't do enough, because I start thinking, and I start overthinking both sides.

00:06:17.000 I'm like, oh, gosh, what if this happens, or this, that?

00:06:19.000 This means something.

00:06:20.000 To this day.

00:06:21.000 Yeah.

00:06:21.000 Like, if I'm doing a theater, and it's my people, and I know that they're coming to pay to see me, I'm pretty confident.

00:06:30.000 I feel like I'm going to do well.

00:06:31.000 But if I do a club that they don't know me...

00:06:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:35.000 Like, I did a corporate gig, like, a month ago, like, in Miami.

00:06:41.000 And I was like, you know, I was like, oh, boy.

00:06:43.000 Because corporate gigs, you know, they can go either way, and it's...

00:06:45.000 They can be horrible.

00:06:46.000 Well, I get there.

00:06:48.000 It's in Miami.

00:06:49.000 Really good-looking people.

00:06:50.000 It's in a lobby of a hotel.

00:06:52.000 I thought this was in a theater.

00:06:54.000 I'm there.

00:06:55.000 And now I'm getting worried.

00:06:56.000 I'm like, how much?

00:06:57.000 And they're like, you've got to do an hour.

00:06:58.000 And then I find out nobody there wants to see me.

00:07:02.000 The woman who was the CEO of this company, it was her birthday, and she liked me.

00:07:08.000 So she brought me in for all her friends to see.

00:07:13.000 Dude, I'm sitting in the lobby, and I'm finding all this information out as I'm sitting there, and I started...

00:07:18.000 I'm not kidding.

00:07:19.000 I've never had a panic attack.

00:07:20.000 I start going, what do you mean?

00:07:23.000 Nobody else knows I'm here, or this or that, or they go, no, no, no.

00:07:26.000 They don't know.

00:07:26.000 This is a company.

00:07:27.000 And I'm looking in the room.

00:07:29.000 It's in the lobby.

00:07:30.000 I can see through a little glass window, and they're drinking.

00:07:34.000 They're talking at tables.

00:07:35.000 We're set up for comedy, too.

00:07:37.000 Just round tables, booths not even facing you.

00:07:41.000 And I see a postage stamp of a stage that I got to stand on.

00:07:45.000 And I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:07:46.000 So I start hyperventilating.

00:07:48.000 So I start going, I can't do this.

00:07:51.000 I'm talking to Skylar, my assistant buddy.

00:07:54.000 He's helping me out here.

00:07:56.000 And I'm like, hey, just tell them we can't do it.

00:07:58.000 He's like, what are you talking about?

00:07:59.000 I go, just tell them.

00:07:59.000 We're going to give them the money back.

00:08:00.000 We're just not going to do it.

00:08:01.000 We don't need to do this.

00:08:02.000 I don't want to do it.

00:08:02.000 This is not going to go well.

00:08:03.000 I started really panicking.

00:08:05.000 And then they started going up.

00:08:06.000 She's up on stage now introducing me.

00:08:09.000 And I go, oh my gosh, we're going.

00:08:10.000 Oh my gosh.

00:08:11.000 So I start freaking out.

00:08:15.000 I've been doing comedy for 30 years.

00:08:17.000 I've been doing stand-up.

00:08:18.000 I go, I don't need this.

00:08:19.000 I'm ready to call sussy and go, I don't want to do this anymore. 1.00

00:08:22.000 I don't want to do it.

00:08:24.000 I get up there and go, I go, just get him with that first joke.

00:08:26.000 If you do, you settle it.

00:08:27.000 Because if you don't, you know if they don't buy you on that first joke, you're gone. 1.00

00:08:31.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:08:32.000 You're gone for an hour. 1.00

00:08:33.000 For an hour, you're gone.

00:08:34.000 Oh, gosh.

00:08:35.000 And they're not even listening.

00:08:36.000 They're loud when they bring me up.

00:08:38.000 And when I came up, it wasn't even like they all turned and went nuts.

00:08:41.000 But I got them.

00:08:42.000 I don't know what I said.

00:08:43.000 I just said one joke about the lady thanking me, you know, thanking for bringing me up.

00:08:47.000 And I just won them over in one little sweet way.

00:08:51.000 And they turned and they clapped and they laughed at one thing.

00:08:55.000 And then I went into another joke very gingerly, just kind of going this, that.

00:08:58.000 And they laughed at that.

00:08:59.000 And I go, okay.

00:09:00.000 I just settled in.

00:09:00.000 I go, I got them.

00:09:02.000 And they were great.

00:09:03.000 They were great.

00:09:04.000 They were really great.

00:09:05.000 And I was sweating the whole time.

00:09:06.000 I really feeling the sweat.

00:09:07.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:09:08.000 It was rough.

00:09:10.000 But...

00:09:11.000 That's so nerve-wracking.

00:09:12.000 I'm glad it worked out great.

00:09:13.000 I hate it.

00:09:14.000 But I ran into Sandler when I missed you at the airport.

00:09:18.000 I ran into Sandler. 0.98

00:09:19.000 He was just telling me about the fucking worst corporate gig that he just had to do. 0.98

00:09:23.000 Yeah, I called him about it. 0.98

00:09:24.000 He had the same thing.

00:09:26.000 So it's nice to see somebody like that has it too. 1.00

00:09:28.000 Yeah, a guy like him can still eat dick. 0.99

00:09:30.000 I talked to Billy Joel, and he says, literally he was like, I've gone through those. 1.00

00:09:34.000 I'm like, you?

00:09:35.000 But when you're playing music, it's different, man.

00:09:37.000 Yeah, but they'll throw that Saudi money at you. 0.97

00:09:39.000 He threw crazy money at them, and he did a corporate gig, or whatever it was, and he says they weren't even listening.

00:09:44.000 They turned away, and it's like just you and the band, and you just go, let's go, boys.

00:09:48.000 And they play.

00:09:49.000 Dana White had a 40th birthday party, and Stone Temple Pilots played.

00:09:54.000 And it was insane.

00:09:55.000 These dudes played like it was a packed arena.

00:09:59.000 Where? 1.00

00:10:00.000 It was at a fucking conference room in a hotel somewhere. 1.00

00:10:04.000 They didn't care. 1.00

00:10:05.000 They didn't give a fuck. 0.99

00:10:06.000 They had a beautiful stage set up. 0.99

00:10:08.000 The stage was set up nice.

00:10:09.000 But like, you know, all of a sudden they were like, hey, everybody.

00:10:13.000 Stone Temple Pilots! 0.99

00:10:15.000 And then they fucking... 0.99

00:10:16.000 I was so impressed by his ability to perform. 0.99

00:10:25.000 I mean, it took a while for people to even filter to the dance floor in front of them and watch the show.

00:10:30.000 This dude did it like there was 50,000 people out there.

00:10:34.000 It was incredible.

00:10:35.000 I mean, he didn't back off at all.

00:10:38.000 He who cares less has more power.

00:10:40.000 It's literally like, that's it.

00:10:42.000 I'm going around with a tray of, like, you guys think this is funny?

00:10:44.000 He's like, I don't care. 0.99

00:10:46.000 He didn't give a fuck. 0.99

00:10:47.000 And everybody jumps in. 0.99

00:10:48.000 Full commitment.

00:10:49.000 You know, when someone just fully commits to something like that, it's very inspiring.

00:10:53.000 And you'll never forget that.

00:10:55.000 Because if you never see anybody fully commit, that's why.

00:10:58.000 You never see great comics, ever, that exist where there's no other great comics.

00:11:03.000 The best comic in the world never comes out of Tallahassee.

00:11:05.000 Out of nowhere, no scene.

00:11:08.000 We all need to see other people do something special.

00:11:11.000 And if you're lucky, you live in New York, or you live in LA, or now you live in Texas, and you get to see these killers all the time.

00:11:20.000 Right.

00:11:34.000 Bullhorn and everything.

00:11:35.000 Oh my gosh.

00:11:35.000 It was incredible.

00:11:36.000 It was incredible.

00:11:37.000 The show was amazing.

00:11:38.000 Wow.

00:11:39.000 It was so good. 1.00

00:11:40.000 But it was like, that fucking guy worked for his money. 1.00

00:11:43.000 He didn't have like, I'll give him a 7 tonight. 1.00

00:11:48.000 I'm going to give him an 8. Every night to 10. Based on the area we were playing.

00:11:52.000 Guns blazing.

00:11:53.000 That's the way you gotta be, man.

00:11:54.000 I gotta do it.

00:11:56.000 You need a hype man.

00:11:57.000 I need a hype man.

00:11:59.000 You're two different guys.

00:12:01.000 I am.

00:12:01.000 You know me.

00:12:02.000 You know me.

00:12:04.000 If I'm left to my own devices, I go into a little hole.

00:12:08.000 I do.

00:12:08.000 It's my whole life.

00:12:09.000 Everything.

00:12:10.000 Sports.

00:12:10.000 Everything.

00:12:11.000 But this is the thing.

00:12:13.000 I'm playing my first arena coming up, and I'm freaking out.

00:12:17.000 I've never done that before.

00:12:18.000 Are you doing it in the round?

00:12:20.000 No.

00:12:20.000 That's the way to do it.

00:12:22.000 You know why?

00:12:22.000 A little late for that.

00:12:24.000 That's okay.

00:12:25.000 You'll still have a great time.

00:12:26.000 They're still great.

00:12:27.000 The arenas are great.

00:12:28.000 They're fun.

00:12:28.000 It's a wild experience.

00:12:30.000 But the round is the best because it's actually intimate in the strangest way.

00:12:35.000 Because everybody's facing everybody.

00:12:38.000 So all the people see each other and they're all in it together.

00:12:41.000 I love that.

00:12:42.000 I love that idea.

00:12:43.000 But does the stage, does it turn?

00:12:46.000 No, you walk around.

00:12:47.000 I used to do the one, you know, the Westbury Music Fair.

00:12:49.000 Oh, it spins for you.

00:12:50.000 It would spin for you, and you wouldn't even know where the hell you are.

00:12:53.000 And then you have to walk off.

00:12:55.000 It's the awkward walk-off.

00:12:56.000 You don't know where the stairs are.

00:12:57.000 You don't know where they are.

00:12:58.000 It moved, and everybody shifted, and you don't know who you're looking at.

00:13:01.000 You have to find some distinctive person in the audience that sits near the stage.

00:13:05.000 That big guy is my marker right there.

00:13:07.000 The one in Phoenix spins around, too.

00:13:09.000 What's that?

00:13:09.000 The Celebrity Theater?

00:13:10.000 You can turn it on or off.

00:13:12.000 Really?

00:13:12.000 Yeah.

00:13:13.000 That's a good one, too.

00:13:14.000 Because it's a comedy club, but it's in the round.

00:13:16.000 Right.

00:13:17.000 It's like a 2000-seat comedy club in the round.

00:13:19.000 That's what it's like.

00:13:19.000 I would feel guilty, like...

00:13:22.000 Half the crowd is looking, you know, I'd be thinking now, I got another thing to think about. 0.98

00:13:25.000 They've seen my ass for, you know, the last 40 minutes.

00:13:27.000 I gotta spend, you know, and do you set up a joke over here and deliver the punchline there, or how do you break it up? 0.98

00:13:33.000 Well, you have giant screens.

00:13:35.000 So the thing about the arena is they have massive screens.

00:13:38.000 So if for some reason, like, you know, We did these ones in Ohio, and Chappelle came down, and it was very interesting to watch, because they didn't know he was supposed to be there.

00:13:49.000 And it was my show, and Tony didn't know whether he was gonna bring Dave up or me, because Dave hadn't gotten there yet.

00:13:55.000 Oh, wow.

00:13:56.000 And so it's like, Tony's on stage.

00:13:59.000 And he's got, like, five minutes before he should go on stage.

00:14:02.000 And all of a sudden, Dave rolls up. 1.00

00:14:03.000 Posse, fucking limo. 0.99

00:14:05.000 Yeah, this is a guy who doesn't overthink things. 1.00

00:14:06.000 He don't need the hype man.

00:14:07.000 He just strolled in.

00:14:09.000 Yeah.

00:14:09.000 And he just came to say hi.

00:14:13.000 And he's always like, should I go up?

00:14:15.000 I go, what do you mean, should you go up?

00:14:16.000 I go, go up.

00:14:17.000 Let's go.

00:14:18.000 He goes, when?

00:14:18.000 I go, you'll be up in five minutes.

00:14:20.000 He goes, well, let's have a drink.

00:14:21.000 So we had a drink.

00:14:23.000 And then we're sitting in the green room, and I go, dude, he's got about one minute to go.

00:14:26.000 I go, I'll walk out there with you.

00:14:28.000 Because he needs to know that it's not me, that he's bringing up Dave.

00:14:31.000 So he starts bringing me up.

00:14:33.000 This is one of my best friends, one of my favorite people.

00:14:35.000 And then I'm like flashing the light, and he sees Dave.

00:14:38.000 And the crowd slowly starts to realize it's Dave.

00:14:43.000 Oh my gosh.

00:14:43.000 When they see me and Dave walk to the stage.

00:14:46.000 And by the time he says, Ohio's own Dave Chappelle.

00:14:52.000 It is one full minute of a standing ovation.

00:14:58.000 One full minute.

00:14:59.000 So he takes this victory lap around the stage for like one, I mean, a full minute, man.

00:15:07.000 It was, I filmed it.

00:15:08.000 I put it up on my Instagram.

00:15:10.000 It's insane.

00:15:11.000 It's inspiring.

00:15:12.000 I mean, Tony, we're just looking at each other and looking around going, wow.

00:15:17.000 It just felt special.

00:15:19.000 It felt like special that you could be there.

00:15:21.000 Like, wow.

00:15:23.000 And then he goes, OH! And he puts the mic out.

00:15:27.000 It was insane.

00:15:30.000 It was insane. 0.98

00:15:31.000 It was so fucking cool. 0.82

00:15:32.000 Because he's from Ohio. 0.98

00:15:34.000 He lives in Yellow Springs, which is right outside of Dayton.

00:15:38.000 So it's like...

00:15:40.000 For him to go there like that, but to be in the round.

00:15:43.000 See, the round is everybody sees everybody.

00:15:46.000 It's not just you facing this crowd, and then you're in the crowd, and they're there.

00:15:50.000 In the round, it seems like everyone's all in this together.

00:15:53.000 It's intimate in a special way.

00:15:55.000 It's so much better.

00:15:56.000 Yeah, and the screens are giant, so you just walk around.

00:15:59.000 But when Dave was facing that way, I'd see his face on the screen.

00:16:04.000 It's not bad.

00:16:05.000 It's still awesome, because you're there.

00:16:07.000 And everybody just kind of walks around.

00:16:09.000 You just get used to walking around.

00:16:11.000 Nobody really stands still in points in one direction in an arena in the round.

00:16:16.000 That would be rude.

00:16:16.000 Well, the screens help.

00:16:17.000 Oh, it's massive.

00:16:19.000 They're everywhere.

00:16:20.000 They're giant.

00:16:20.000 They're 50 feet wide.

00:16:21.000 They're fucking everywhere. 1.00

00:16:22.000 It makes it easy. 1.00

00:16:24.000 It's an experience.

00:16:25.000 I would love to be in there.

00:16:26.000 I think I'm in Denver in Salt Lake City where I'm worried about this my first arenas.

00:16:32.000 You're going to have fun.

00:16:34.000 It's going to be fun.

00:16:36.000 This is Dave.

00:16:38.000 Here it is.

00:16:38.000 Listen to this.

00:16:52.000 It's like a fight!

00:16:56.000 I mean, you literally can't even hear him bring up Dave Chappelle.

00:17:06.000 Look at this!

00:17:07.000 Look at this!

00:17:19.000 That's insane.

00:17:28.000 No.

00:17:30.000 No.

00:17:31.000 It's like, that's the sickest thing I've ever seen.

00:17:34.000 It was like, I felt like we were seeing the Beatles.

00:17:37.000 I felt like it was like Hendrix got on stage.

00:17:40.000 Well done for you, bringing him up before you, I mean, that's insane.

00:17:43.000 It was awesome.

00:17:44.000 That's incredible.

00:17:46.000 It was so fun.

00:17:49.000 But that's the thing.

00:17:51.000 But I do that all the time.

00:17:52.000 You know, when I'm at the club, I'll have five, six guys that are going on in front of me.

00:17:56.000 They're all headliners.

00:17:57.000 I'm going on stage an hour and a half into the show.

00:17:59.000 I would, again, my theaters, I'd be comfortable.

00:18:02.000 Your club, I would be afraid.

00:18:04.000 I'd be afraid because you've got such heavy hitters and I come up and I'm talking about weird little observational stuff and it's like, whoa.

00:18:10.000 It would get in my head.

00:18:11.000 It would.

00:18:12.000 No, there's got a lot of weird observational comedians killed there.

00:18:15.000 It's a fun place. 0.55

00:18:17.000 Like, Duncan kills there.

00:18:18.000 And, you know, it's all just...

00:18:20.000 It's all great.

00:18:22.000 It's all a bunch of different...

00:18:22.000 But for me, it's like, to have a...

00:18:25.000 I want the audience to see the best possible show they could see.

00:18:28.000 So they're going to see Ron White, they're going to see Shane Gillis, and Tony Hinchcliffe, and Brian Simpson.

00:18:35.000 That's insane.

00:18:35.000 And all these monsters that come into town.

00:18:38.000 Like, in any given week, it's Chris DiStefano, or fucking Dave Smith. 0.99

00:18:44.000 It's like, there's so many killers. 0.82

00:18:45.000 How often during the week are you there, and how often are guys working out their stuff there?

00:18:50.000 Well, it's open seven nights a week.

00:18:52.000 Seven nights a week.

00:18:53.000 Seven nights a week, two shows each night in each room.

00:18:56.000 Except for Mondays and Sundays, which are open mic nights.

00:19:00.000 So open mic night, there's a show in the small room, there's only one show, but then there's at least one show in the main room that's a regular show, like regular comedians.

00:19:09.000 Wow, that's incredible.

00:19:10.000 Yeah, and it's two shows a night in each room, so four shows a night.

00:19:15.000 How big are each room?

00:19:17.000 One's 250 and one's about 110 to 120. Do you feel a difference?

00:19:22.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:23.000 The little one's super intimate.

00:19:24.000 The little one is like, if you remember the belly room at the Comedy Store, it's like the belly room and the original room had a baby, and that's the little one.

00:19:33.000 Wow.

00:19:33.000 It's like medium-sized little.

00:19:35.000 And then the big room is like the original room and the main room at the Comedy Store had a baby.

00:19:42.000 That's what it's like.

00:19:43.000 And when you're trying out stuff, people going up there with notepads and stuff like that?

00:19:46.000 Yeah, yeah, Christina Pazitsky does it all the time. 1.00

00:19:48.000 She goes up with a notepad.

00:19:49.000 A lot of guys go up with notepads. 0.92

00:19:51.000 Yeah, it's like if you've got some new shit you're working on, Segura, he goes up with notepads. 0.99

00:19:55.000 If you have new shit. 0.99

00:19:56.000 Right. 0.99

00:19:56.000 Because you want to be able to remember. 0.99

00:19:58.000 You don't want to fuck up the bit.

00:19:59.000 And the audience kind of appreciates it.

00:20:00.000 It's like, oh, this is so new.

00:20:01.000 They feel that it's...

00:20:02.000 They have to look at it.

00:20:03.000 Yeah, it's not polished.

00:20:04.000 And then Brian Simpson hosts this show called Bottom of the Barrel.

00:20:07.000 And that's a really fun show where you go up there and you have no material.

00:20:10.000 And you just reach into this whiskey barrel.

00:20:12.000 And there's a bunch of different premises that the audience members have written down.

00:20:16.000 And you pull it out, you open it up.

00:20:18.000 And you do a bit on that? 1.00

00:20:19.000 Yeah, you just start talking shit. 1.00

00:20:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:23.000 But the audience knows that's what you're doing.

00:20:25.000 So because they know what you're doing, it's really fun.

00:20:27.000 They're not expecting polished material.

00:20:30.000 Everybody knows what the show is. 0.99

00:20:31.000 The show is fucking around. 0.99

00:20:32.000 And maybe... 0.99

00:20:33.000 If I was to go there and do my act, I would pretend like I pulled that out of the whiskey bottle first, the barrel, and then...

00:20:39.000 Did you ever notice?

00:20:43.000 Oh, man.

00:20:44.000 Yeah.

00:20:44.000 But you can, like, if you have a bit on a subject and you just tell them, I actually have a bit on the subject, and then you can do it.

00:20:50.000 Right.

00:20:50.000 You know, and there's also, like, sometimes there's, like, there's the other night, there's something that I've been writing that I've never done on stage before, and just by sheer coincidence, the same subject was something that I pulled out of the piece of paper.

00:21:03.000 Are you kidding?

00:21:03.000 Yeah.

00:21:04.000 So it was like, oh, it was robot fuck dolls. 1.00

00:21:06.000 Right. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Which is, like...

00:21:09.000 I have a whole chunk on that.

00:21:13.000 Now I'm going to throw it away because you're working on it.

00:21:15.000 I don't want to...

00:21:16.000 But it was one of those moments where I was like, oh, like last night, I spent two hours writing stuff on this.

00:21:22.000 Right.

00:21:22.000 So let's just run with it here, see what happens.

00:21:25.000 Have you ever had a...

00:21:27.000 Because they must go nuts when they see you, right?

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:30.000 And then...

00:21:30.000 Because back on Long Island, I'll work out at a little club like Governor's.

00:21:34.000 I don't know if you remember that.

00:21:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:35.000 Governor's in Levittown.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:36.000 And I'll go out there and I'm hometown boy and I go up there and they go nuts with...

00:21:41.000 For like a minute or something, not like that, but like they go crazy, it's fun to see you, and then within two minutes, if I don't, like they're ordering sausage and rolls and it's like they're talking and it's like putting weight on the bar.

00:21:56.000 I'm like, whoa. 0.99

00:21:58.000 Yeah, well New York audiences too, they don't have much patience for bullshit. 0.98

00:22:03.000 It's a good place to start comedy. 0.96

00:22:05.000 New York and Boston, both. 0.99

00:22:07.000 Good place to start comedy because people don't have any patience for bullshit. 0.98

00:22:10.000 Yeah, we're happy to see you, but come with the jokes. 0.98

00:22:14.000 Exactly.

00:22:14.000 Let's go.

00:22:15.000 Come on.

00:22:15.000 I'm here to laugh.

00:22:17.000 I do a lot of writing...

00:22:19.000 While I have a tour, like if I have a tour in the theaters, you know, where I'll try to, if I have a set theme set, I'll try to add some stuff in there for the next one.

00:22:28.000 Have you ever done that?

00:22:29.000 Do you ever?

00:22:29.000 Yeah.

00:22:30.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 When you're doing a lot of shows, it's great.

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 Because you kind of get a sense of where you can stick stuff in.

00:22:37.000 You always have a safety net of, I can go here if it's going nowhere.

00:22:40.000 Yeah.

00:22:40.000 Because that's my problem.

00:22:41.000 That's what I do, too.

00:22:42.000 I'll write a huge chunk on something.

00:22:44.000 And won't know when to bail on it if it's not going.

00:22:47.000 It's dependent on this thing.

00:22:49.000 I gotta follow through with it now.

00:22:50.000 And if they're not in, they don't buy in right away.

00:22:52.000 I'm like, wow, I got three more minutes of this stuff.

00:22:54.000 Oftentimes, I realize it's because I didn't buy in.

00:22:57.000 Right.

00:22:58.000 That's what it is mostly with me.

00:23:00.000 If I'm in during a bit like, oh, I didn't want to be talking about this.

00:23:03.000 I wish I didn't bring this one up.

00:23:05.000 Like, if I ever get to that place...

00:23:07.000 You just have to fight off that thought.

00:23:09.000 There's this thought that comes into your mind like, oh, why did I bring this up?

00:23:13.000 I don't want to do this bit. 0.99

00:23:14.000 But you can't say, you know what, fuck that bit. 0.98

00:23:16.000 Because then the audience will be like, what? 1.00

00:23:17.000 Yes, yes.

00:23:18.000 So you just have to never let yourself get to the mindset where you're like, I don't want to do this.

00:23:24.000 You've got to remember, there was something, whatever the subject is, there was something about that subject that when you initially started writing a joke about it, it was resonating with you. 0.97

00:23:33.000 And you were like, what the fuck is this? 0.97

00:23:35.000 Right. 0.99

00:23:35.000 But if you hear it too many times, it's like anything else. 0.99

00:23:38.000 You get tired of it.

00:23:39.000 It loses its luster.

00:23:40.000 But that's just a mental weakness.

00:23:43.000 You just have to realize, get your head wrapped around that you can't allow yourself to think that way.

00:23:49.000 And surely this thought originally was valid because that's why you're so excited about it.

00:23:54.000 That's why you wrote a bit about it.

00:23:56.000 The audience doesn't know that you've said it a hundred times over the last year or more.

00:24:02.000 They just want to hear it.

00:24:04.000 Right.

00:24:04.000 So they want to hear it from fresh eyes.

00:24:06.000 So you have to put yourself in fresh eyes.

00:24:09.000 Right.

00:24:09.000 You have to be able to do that.

00:24:10.000 And that's the trick.

00:24:11.000 And it's not like you're faking it either.

00:24:13.000 You have to actually really be thinking about it like you think about it.

00:24:17.000 If you want it to work at the best, you know, like when a bit is really sharp.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:22.000 You have to be thinking about it as you're like...

00:24:27.000 Enthusiastically, as you could be actually engaged with each part of it while it's happening.

00:24:32.000 Well, when I write a new bit, and if I write a big chunk and it's too much, I'll go up with too much stuff, and I didn't rehearse it, because words are so efficient.

00:24:40.000 You'd say one word, or you're repeating a word, it stumbles you up, and then it kind of blows it for this, the next part of the bit.

00:24:48.000 So it's like...

00:24:49.000 I gotta work more at really rehearsing my bits.

00:24:53.000 Just really getting through how I'm gonna speak.

00:24:55.000 I stumble all the time.

00:24:57.000 Well, the problem is then you start thinking about it.

00:25:00.000 And with new bits, they're just not etched into your brain yet.

00:25:04.000 So as you go up with them, they're like little Bambi walking on ice. 1.00

00:25:08.000 It's not steady.

00:25:11.000 But that's what small shows are good for. 0.97

00:25:14.000 That's what Fuckin' Around is good for.

00:25:16.000 And that's what also is like, that's when it's really important that you're inspired by whatever this idea is. 0.94

00:25:22.000 If I'm inspired by the idea, I can always talk about it.

00:25:25.000 Right.

00:25:26.000 Like if there's a thing that I can get behind where I'll go, you explain this to me.

00:25:32.000 And then if I'm in that mindset, I can make it happen.

00:25:35.000 But I just can never let myself not be interested in what I'm talking about.

00:25:40.000 That's a problem that people have and that I've had.

00:25:44.000 But you have to recognize that it's like throwing a toaster in a bathtub.

00:25:48.000 Well, what I'm trying to do now is because I used to write just separate jokes.

00:25:54.000 Joke, joke, joke, joke here.

00:25:56.000 And every time I would bring up a new subject, it was like the audience is starting from scratch again to try to catch up.

00:26:02.000 And it's exhausting to try to understand.

00:26:04.000 So if I try to put it in a story or like a theme to my set, at least they kind of know what's happening before.

00:26:10.000 So they know, oh, you tend to do these type of things.

00:26:13.000 And then you talk about something like that.

00:26:15.000 They go with you.

00:26:16.000 It's like you're not starting a, you know, it's easy to, what is it, push a moving car?

00:26:20.000 Momentum.

00:26:21.000 Momentum, exactly.

00:26:22.000 And that's been working better for me because, you know, everything was like just isolated bits of jokes that I would put, you know, and I'd go, I'd just put them in anywhere, put a lazy connective tissue to it, you know, and it would be like, it would work, you get to laugh,

00:26:37.000 but it's like there's no, you know, building.

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 That's why I always admired guys like Stephen Wright who do those non-sequiturs.

00:26:45.000 I'm like, how do you do that?

00:26:47.000 And how do you write?

00:26:49.000 God, that's going to be so hard to write.

00:26:52.000 Who's the guy who died?

00:26:54.000 Mitch Hedberg?

00:26:54.000 Yes.

00:26:55.000 Same thing.

00:26:55.000 Yeah, same thing.

00:26:56.000 Non-sequiturs.

00:26:57.000 Amazing.

00:26:58.000 And you were with him.

00:26:59.000 And that's what made it even funnier.

00:27:01.000 God, who does that now?

00:27:05.000 Are there any non-sequitur guys that just go joke?

00:27:08.000 I guess Jimmy Carr's kind of non-sequitur.

00:27:11.000 But some guys, they're just one bit to the next.

00:27:15.000 One subject to the next. 0.91

00:27:17.000 And with Mitch Hedberg, it was always super ridiculous. 0.56

00:27:20.000 And Stephen Wright, same thing. 0.96

00:27:22.000 Everything was really ridiculous. 0.59

00:27:23.000 And that became something that actually elevated it, right?

00:27:27.000 Yeah.

00:27:28.000 They weren't storytellers.

00:27:30.000 Right.

00:27:31.000 Yeah, it was part of the fun.

00:27:33.000 So out of it, yeah.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, this guy was like...

00:27:35.000 Out of nowhere.

00:27:36.000 Somebody asked me, do I want a frozen banana?

00:27:38.000 I said, no, but I want a regular banana later, so yes.

00:27:44.000 He's the best. 0.99

00:27:45.000 What a fucking great joke. 0.99

00:27:46.000 He's the best. 0.99

00:27:47.000 Oh, he was amazing, man.

00:27:48.000 That was a guy, like, he just didn't want to kick heroin.

00:27:53.000 They were trying to get him to kick heroin.

00:27:55.000 He's like, uh-uh, I like it.

00:27:57.000 Is that what it was?

00:27:58.000 He liked it.

00:27:59.000 He just wasn't going to kick it.

00:28:01.000 He was hospitalized while we were on The Man Show, and Doug Stanhope and Mitch were very close.

00:28:08.000 And I admired him deeply as a comedian.

00:28:11.000 He was a great comic man.

00:28:13.000 And that was when he was hospitalized with gangrene.

00:28:18.000 Because he was shooting it, allegedly.

00:28:24.000 Heroin is a scary one because it seems to touch this part of people that makes them very creative.

00:28:33.000 It resonates with people.

00:28:35.000 So much music that's great is made on heroin.

00:28:39.000 But God, what a curse. 0.91

00:28:41.000 What a curse.

00:28:43.000 When you watch someone who gets caught in the opiate web, it's so terrifying.

00:28:49.000 It's so sad to see.

00:28:51.000 Yeah.

00:28:51.000 And when you have someone who's just like this...

00:28:53.000 I mean, imagine the kind of bits that Mitch Hedberg could have come up with over all these decades after that.

00:29:00.000 What a talent, man.

00:29:01.000 Yeah, and he was all non sequitur.

00:29:04.000 It was all one bit leads into the next bit, Double Tree Hotel.

00:29:08.000 I love it.

00:29:10.000 I love it.

00:29:11.000 Yeah.

00:29:11.000 I love that humor, man.

00:29:13.000 He was amazing.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, he was.

00:29:16.000 He was.

00:29:17.000 It's just, you know...

00:29:20.000 That guy had a hard time in the beginning because people didn't know what he was doing.

00:29:24.000 So he would go on after these high-energy music acts.

00:29:28.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:29:29.000 Guys would sing songs and shit, and they'd have a dirty rap, and they'd bring up Mitch Edberg. 0.99

00:29:33.000 Just destroy it, yeah. 0.99

00:29:34.000 And it'd be different like that. 0.99

00:29:35.000 It'd be deaf. 0.97

00:29:36.000 And you're in the middle of Ohio or wherever.

00:29:38.000 So they're not used to that, and they want the song.

00:29:41.000 They don't know who you are.

00:29:42.000 You're just the headliner.

00:29:43.000 Oh, he's on Evening at the Improv?

00:29:45.000 Okay.

00:29:45.000 And then they go to see you.

00:29:46.000 They really didn't know.

00:29:48.000 They just said, oh, look, MTV half-hour comedy hour.

00:29:51.000 It must be good.

00:29:51.000 And then they go to the local comedy club because it's a thing to do on a Friday night.

00:29:55.000 But when they don't know you...

00:29:56.000 Like, that's one thing...

00:29:59.000 That is, you know, made it a little bit easier is when people are coming to see you and they know you as opposed to who's this next guy?

00:30:07.000 It's kind of like just make me laugh.

00:30:09.000 Way, way, way easier.

00:30:10.000 But also comes with a trap because the laugh at stuff that's not that good.

00:30:15.000 Right.

00:30:16.000 Like, we've all seen guys who only perform for their crowds only, like, in big places.

00:30:23.000 Like, they only do theaters, only do their crowds only.

00:30:25.000 Like, that act can get soft.

00:30:28.000 It can get soft and still work.

00:30:30.000 Right.

00:30:30.000 Because they're not being tested.

00:30:32.000 They're not performing with other comics all the time.

00:30:34.000 Well, you see a lot of these guys now that are developing an act because they did something on, like, Instagram or whatever.

00:30:41.000 They developed these audiences that, you know, they get popular, and then they put together an act.

00:30:47.000 They go, and the clubs are like, well, let's put this guy up, you know.

00:30:51.000 And they sell out like crazy because, you know, they got a big following.

00:30:58.000 But it's not like working your stand-up, man.

00:31:00.000 It's a different...

00:31:01.000 Well, there's also a lot of guys who do crowd control.

00:31:05.000 They do crowd work stuff. 0.69

00:31:07.000 It's like just fucking around with the crowd and that's most of these clips.

00:31:11.000 You've seen a lot of guys who put up clips of cloud work because you don't have to burn your material. 0.97

00:31:18.000 Just talking to the crowd, just talk to them.

00:31:20.000 It's fine.

00:31:21.000 That can go bad.

00:31:22.000 It can go bad, but if you do it enough and you get some funny moments, like Andrew Schultz has a lot of great moments.

00:31:28.000 He's really good at it. 0.97

00:31:29.000 And you take those clips, and that way you're putting shit up, but you're not burning any of your jokes. 0.98

00:31:34.000 The problem is some of those guys can only do that. 0.98

00:31:37.000 Schultz is a great comic.

00:31:39.000 He can do great bits.

00:31:40.000 He can do great...

00:31:42.000 I mean, he can do anything.

00:31:43.000 But some of these guys are only good at talking to the audience.

00:31:47.000 And then when they have to do, did you ever notice?

00:31:49.000 Everybody's like, whoa.

00:31:50.000 What?

00:31:52.000 The audience can feel the shift when I go back to my own material, like, oh, you wrote this. 1.00

00:31:56.000 Yo, what is this wack-ass bullshit that you've been thinking about all day? 0.99

00:32:00.000 You know, you're better off responding. 1.00

00:32:02.000 Like, there's certain guys that, like, their thing is really just talking to the crowd, and that's a different thing.

00:32:08.000 It's a great thing, it's really great when someone's funny at it, but it's also a different thing than the actual jokes.

00:32:15.000 I fear that.

00:32:16.000 Like, I don't like doing that.

00:32:17.000 Like, so I've built my act with the speed of it that it, like, no one has the chance to get in and ask a question or heckle or whatever.

00:32:26.000 You know, you build this shell around you so, like, there's just not enough time.

00:32:28.000 You can't even get it in.

00:32:30.000 So if someone says something, it's like, you're off them quick, you know?

00:32:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:32.000 Because I don't want to have to depend on doing that, going, what?

00:32:35.000 And stopping and then trying to get back to the bit that you were, you know, doing.

00:32:38.000 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 Yeah, you don't need that.

00:32:40.000 Some people like it.

00:32:41.000 Some people like to interact with the crowd.

00:32:44.000 It's also extra juice.

00:32:47.000 The audience realizes it's happening live.

00:32:49.000 It's real, it is.

00:32:50.000 This is crazy.

00:32:52.000 And then if you get good one-liners in the moment.

00:32:56.000 It's a great tool to have.

00:32:57.000 I wish I could depend on more.

00:32:59.000 Do you talk to the crowd at all?

00:33:00.000 I do.

00:33:01.000 Occasionally you have to.

00:33:02.000 And then at the Comedy Store you had to.

00:33:04.000 The Comedy Store you had to.

00:33:05.000 The Comedy Store for the longest time had zero crowd control.

00:33:08.000 They do a good job now of policing the room, but back then it was comics that were the door people.

00:33:15.000 It was comics that seeded people.

00:33:16.000 It was the comics that took the money at the cash register.

00:33:20.000 It was comics working there, and they were all like...

00:33:22.000 They didn't want to do that job, so they were the worst bouncers, and nobody ever quieted the audience.

00:33:27.000 It was just, you need to learn how to do it in the fire.

00:33:30.000 But you toughen up that way.

00:33:31.000 Like, you build a...

00:33:32.000 You understand how to go with the flow.

00:33:36.000 Right.

00:33:36.000 But some people don't do that.

00:33:38.000 And they did not like the Comedy Store for that reason.

00:33:41.000 They just go up there and they like to have a slow pace and do their bits and build.

00:33:46.000 That's me.

00:33:46.000 That's more me.

00:33:47.000 I was always afraid of the Comedy Store.

00:33:50.000 It's just when you go up.

00:33:53.000 Someone like Adam Egott, who's brilliant at scheduling and really understands talent and where people go, you just want to put them in the right place.

00:34:02.000 You don't want to put them after a music act.

00:34:05.000 That's the death.

00:34:06.000 That is absolute death.

00:34:08.000 The death is the guy who has the funny songs.

00:34:09.000 You're not following that.

00:34:11.000 You just see the guitar in the back and the guy's...

00:34:14.000 No!

00:34:14.000 Tuning it up, and you're like, oh no.

00:34:16.000 When is he on?

00:34:17.000 And he's like, he's on next.

00:34:18.000 Then you're up.

00:34:19.000 Then, you know, it's like, no.

00:34:21.000 No, the guy with the guitar always ruined the show.

00:34:24.000 They always killed.

00:34:25.000 They would kill, and you couldn't follow them. 0.93

00:34:27.000 Yep. 0.55

00:34:28.000 Yeah.

00:34:28.000 Musical acts, raps.

00:34:30.000 Anybody could do a rap.

00:34:30.000 Remember Red Johnny and the Round Guy?

00:34:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:32.000 Those guys would do that rap.

00:34:34.000 You're done. 1.00

00:34:35.000 The show was over, bitch. 1.00

00:34:36.000 You see them go. 1.00

00:34:37.000 I'm getting in my car.

00:34:38.000 I'm leaving.

00:34:39.000 I'll see you later.

00:34:40.000 I go, there's no need for me to be here.

00:34:42.000 It's crazy how a song, or a funny song, it tops everything.

00:34:49.000 Yeah.

00:34:50.000 Who was that guy that used to be on Dr. Demento?

00:34:52.000 There was that guy that used to have dirty songs back in the day, and he was famous.

00:34:57.000 He would tour around with dirty songs.

00:35:00.000 John Valby?

00:35:00.000 Yes.

00:35:01.000 Thank you.

00:35:02.000 Yes.

00:35:02.000 That guy.

00:35:03.000 Remember that guy?

00:35:04.000 Dr. Dirty.

00:35:05.000 Dr. Dirty. 0.66

00:35:06.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:35:06.000 That's right. 0.96

00:35:07.000 He would light up a room.

00:35:08.000 Light up a room.

00:35:09.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 You're not going on after him.

00:35:10.000 No.

00:35:11.000 It's over.

00:35:12.000 And everybody knew who he was.

00:35:13.000 And you would hear his songs on, like, Dr. Demento.

00:35:16.000 Remember, like, Late Night on the Radio?

00:35:17.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 You would hear his songs?

00:35:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:35:19.000 He would tour and do just dirty blowjob songs, and everybody would go... 0.99

00:35:23.000 That guy had a business, man. 0.99

00:35:26.000 And I'm going up there talking about puppies afterwards.

00:35:28.000 Hey, you guys ever...

00:35:31.000 You ever lose your keys?

00:35:33.000 And you're searching. 1.00

00:35:35.000 This guy's talking about getting a blowjob while you're taking a shit. 1.00

00:35:40.000 But he had that following of people that would just come to see just those songs. 1.00

00:35:45.000 So they would hear the same songs over and over again.

00:35:47.000 Loved it.

00:35:48.000 That's another thing.

00:35:50.000 Dice had that.

00:35:51.000 Dice could always do the rhymes.

00:35:52.000 And the audience wanted to hear those rhymes. 1.00

00:35:55.000 What's in the bow, bitch? 1.00

00:35:57.000 Oh! 1.00

00:35:59.000 You don't have to write as much.

00:36:00.000 It's great, right?

00:36:02.000 But you're going to get bored.

00:36:04.000 You ever see that Kinnison song about the Beach Boys?

00:36:08.000 Kinnison had a bit about the Beach Boys, about imagine them 35 years later singing the song. 0.97

00:36:15.000 Same fucking song, not wanting to be there anymore, that it's just not the same experience. 0.97

00:36:20.000 That's tough. 0.99

00:36:21.000 Yeah, you want to be able to do new stuff.

00:36:25.000 The new stuff is scary, but it's fun.

00:36:27.000 It's so exciting.

00:36:28.000 I mean, I've found, like, it's...

00:36:32.000 I never really worked my act.

00:36:34.000 Like, when I started doing the show and getting involved with that, my stand-up, the writing and all that, I would still go to, like, Vegas with Ray to do it on a weekend, but I wasn't working my stuff.

00:36:45.000 I wasn't a comedian.

00:36:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:36:46.000 Like, you've got to really...

00:36:47.000 And I felt that.

00:36:49.000 You're delivering the same act year after year, kind of changing here a little bit here and there, and then you're going out and doing it, and it was bothering me so much.

00:36:57.000 I hated my act.

00:36:58.000 I couldn't stand doing it anymore and didn't have time to write that much.

00:37:02.000 So a few years back, I just stopped and said, I love stand-up so much.

00:37:07.000 I just want to start and really get into it.

00:37:11.000 How much time did you take off of it?

00:37:14.000 I wasn't really off.

00:37:15.000 I would keep it going, but just doing shows.

00:37:18.000 No writing.

00:37:18.000 I really wasn't writing.

00:37:20.000 For years.

00:37:20.000 Just doing bits.

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 I mean, if something funny hit me, I would write it down, but not working it, not writing.

00:37:26.000 It's so hard when you're doing a television show.

00:37:29.000 When I was doing news radio, I fell into a real spot over a period of at least a year where I wasn't writing at all.

00:37:38.000 I didn't do any new jokes. 0.58

00:37:40.000 I had the same tired-ass jokes. 0.91

00:37:42.000 You were... 0.93

00:37:43.000 I remember jumping in your Supra and heading to the comedy store.

00:37:49.000 You would go up a lot.

00:37:50.000 You would still do things there, no?

00:37:52.000 Yeah, but maybe that was a different time.

00:37:54.000 That was when I snapped out of it.

00:37:56.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:56.000 So there was a period when I first moved there in, like, 94, where we were working, like, 16 hours a day.

00:38:05.000 And...

00:38:06.000 I was tired all the time.

00:38:07.000 And I would just show up at the club and do my set and then go.

00:38:11.000 And I was just doing it because I was still a comic.

00:38:14.000 That's what I felt like I was doing.

00:38:16.000 In my head I was always like, they're going to realize I'm not an actor.

00:38:18.000 I'm going to get fired.

00:38:19.000 This is the last TV show I ever worked.

00:38:22.000 I almost got fired from the first show I ever got fired.

00:38:25.000 Where I was the star of the show.

00:38:27.000 Hardball?

00:38:27.000 Yeah, I almost got fired from that.

00:38:28.000 I remember that one.

00:38:29.000 Because I was getting in an argument with the producer.

00:38:31.000 They hired some new producer, and he wrote these terrible lines.

00:38:34.000 I was like, this is insane.

00:38:36.000 This is so bad, it's insane.

00:38:38.000 And they were going to fire me.

00:38:38.000 You didn't stomach it, man.

00:38:40.000 I was like, this is crazy.

00:38:41.000 Well, the thing is, the guys who wrote the original show were brilliant.

00:38:44.000 They wrote for Married with Children.

00:38:45.000 They wrote for The Simpsons.

00:38:47.000 Right.

00:38:48.000 And Jeff Martin and Kevin Curran.

00:38:50.000 And when they had their show, the pilot was their show.

00:38:54.000 Like, Jim Brewer was the mascot.

00:38:56.000 I remember that.

00:38:57.000 It was fun.

00:38:57.000 Yeah.

00:38:58.000 Mike Starr from Goodfellas was in it.

00:39:00.000 I mean, it was Bruce Greenwood, the guy that went on to be in the Star Trek movies.

00:39:05.000 These guys have been in everything.

00:39:06.000 He was in Hardball.

00:39:07.000 I remember.

00:39:08.000 I go to your tapings, man.

00:39:09.000 It was so much fun.

00:39:10.000 They were going to fire me because I was like, this is terrible.

00:39:12.000 So they hired a new producer.

00:39:14.000 The new producer came in and took over and turned it into like the sloppiest, most obvious, terrible sitcom.

00:39:22.000 Like that prototypical sitcom where you watch and you go, ugh.

00:39:25.000 He's got to get out of the room. 0.93

00:39:26.000 The jokes are so goddamn obvious. 0.94

00:39:29.000 And they wound up firing him. 0.89

00:39:30.000 But it was between me and him.

00:39:32.000 And so it literally got down to this thing where they're calling my agent saying, this kid is ruining his career.

00:39:39.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:39:40.000 And I was like, oh no, I'm ruining my career.

00:39:41.000 So I always thought that eventually they were going to figure out that I'm not built for this.

00:39:46.000 This is not my thing.

00:39:48.000 And so when I would show up on the set of news radio, it was like...

00:39:54.000 At any moment in time, they're going to figure out that I'm not supposed to be here.

00:39:58.000 Not only because you didn't want to, though.

00:39:59.000 I thought you were funny as hell in that stuff.

00:40:02.000 You just didn't like it.

00:40:04.000 Insecure, didn't have any experience about actors, didn't know how to hang around with them.

00:40:08.000 I was so used to comics.

00:40:10.000 Right.

00:40:11.000 So for me it was like fighters and then comics.

00:40:15.000 Right. 0.79

00:40:15.000 So just crazy people. 0.79

00:40:16.000 Yeah. 0.79

00:40:16.000 I was just only around crazy people. 0.79

00:40:18.000 So when I was around normal people or people that were like really sensitive, like really, really sensitive, like sensitive on purpose, like where they're trying to be offended by things.

00:40:30.000 That's sitcom people and, you know, when you get into that.

00:40:32.000 Oh, it was exhausting.

00:40:34.000 That's hilarious.

00:40:35.000 It was exhausting.

00:40:36.000 And you'd always hear about tyrants.

00:40:38.000 You'd always hear about, like, the Brett Butlers and the people that would scream and throw coffee in the face of the writers.

00:40:44.000 Newsradio, was that bad?

00:40:45.000 Like, those guys were...

00:40:46.000 Oh, there was none of that there.

00:40:47.000 Right.

00:40:48.000 That was cool.

00:40:48.000 No, there was a party.

00:40:49.000 The writers were great.

00:40:51.000 It was a totally different kind of experience.

00:40:52.000 Right.

00:40:53.000 But what was my point?

00:40:55.000 My point was that...

00:40:56.000 What was my point?

00:40:58.000 You were saying that...

00:41:00.000 Thought I was going to get fired.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, it wasn't for you.

00:41:02.000 You thought they were going to find you out.

00:41:04.000 Oh, so I had to just do stand-up just to prove that I was still a comic.

00:41:08.000 Because I remember at one point in time, the producer of news radio said to me, he was like, why are you still doing stand-up?

00:41:13.000 You're an actor now.

00:41:13.000 I was like, oh no.

00:41:15.000 Don't ever take that away from you.

00:41:16.000 I was like, oh no, I gotta get out of here.

00:41:18.000 I was literally thinking like, oh, this is like a trap.

00:41:21.000 They're changing you.

00:41:22.000 This is a trap.

00:41:23.000 And then...

00:41:25.000 I had one really bad set one night in front of one of the producers and one of the writers. 0.99

00:41:30.000 I fucking ate shit and went up at the store, like, late at night at, like, 1 a.m. 0.99

00:41:35.000 in the main room and just had a terrible set. 1.00

00:41:38.000 Just bombed.

00:41:39.000 And then I really got to work after that.

00:41:42.000 Then I realized, like, oh, I've been slacking off.

00:41:45.000 That's what I felt, man.

00:41:46.000 I've been slacking off because I've been working 16-hour days and I used it as an excuse to not write.

00:41:51.000 And then from then on, like, everything got way better.

00:41:54.000 Like, Way better.

00:41:55.000 My stand-up, I dialed it in much more.

00:41:58.000 How do you write?

00:41:59.000 Are you the guy sitting down?

00:42:01.000 I sit down in front of a computer and I just write.

00:42:03.000 I don't write like this is exactly how I'm going to say it.

00:42:07.000 I just spill my thoughts out.

00:42:10.000 Because I feel like it takes me a lot longer to...

00:42:13.000 Write the words than it does for me to think about things.

00:42:17.000 So the more time that I'm actually just writing the words, it's extra time thinking about the things.

00:42:21.000 Do you speak it into a computer?

00:42:22.000 Do you talk it?

00:42:23.000 No, I just type.

00:42:24.000 Really?

00:42:25.000 Yeah, I type.

00:42:25.000 And I just, whatever the subject is, I'll, like, there's this one subject that I'm doing right now where I've written it Written about the subject four times.

00:42:35.000 So I start a whole new Microsoft Word file four times and just completely revisit it.

00:42:42.000 Just one more time.

00:42:43.000 What program are you using?

00:42:45.000 Just Word.

00:42:46.000 I just use Microsoft Word and I go into focus mode.

00:42:51.000 Have you seen Focus Mode?

00:42:53.000 Yeah, it blocks everything else out.

00:42:55.000 Yeah, I used to use Right Room.

00:42:56.000 I'll still use Right Room.

00:42:57.000 I did Scrivener.

00:42:58.000 I used Scrivener.

00:42:59.000 Yeah.

00:43:00.000 But I'll find one thing about it, and then I'll go, I don't like this, that, it sets my bits up this way, or I can't do this, or I can't transfer that, and then I'll spend the whole day looking up for apps, for the perfect app, and I'm not writing.

00:43:13.000 Yeah, you're distracting yourself.

00:43:15.000 Of course, of course.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, I try to avoid that.

00:43:18.000 But Scrivener, what I do at Scrivener is I make each individual bit.

00:43:22.000 Once I have it kind of boiled down, then I put it in the columns.

00:43:26.000 So the way Scrivener's set up, you know, whatever the subject is.

00:43:29.000 I love Scrivener.

00:43:30.000 The only thing it didn't do, it didn't transfer to my phone or the other, you know, like when I'm at a gig and I want to look it up quick, you have to go to like a Dropbox or like that, you know, and it was like, it was annoying.

00:43:43.000 I go, I can't, I need it right away.

00:43:45.000 Yeah, that's where notes on iPhone is the best.

00:43:47.000 The best?

00:43:48.000 The problem with notes, you ready for this?

00:43:49.000 I got them all.

00:43:50.000 You can't Categorize, it either goes alphabetical, so if you have your bits, I like seeing my bits on the side, where I go, okay, I'm working on this, and be able to move them anywhere you can.

00:43:59.000 Right.

00:44:00.000 Because it'll fall into that, that kind of screws me up.

00:44:02.000 That's true, that you can't keep it in order.

00:44:04.000 That's the only thing about it.

00:44:05.000 Then I'm off that one, then I'm looking for five more hours, I'm looking for other apps.

00:44:08.000 Right, because if you have a folder in your notes, and then you open up that folder and edit any one of those things, any one of those subjects, it'll move to the top.

00:44:19.000 Yes.

00:44:19.000 Because that's the newest one now.

00:44:21.000 Yeah.

00:44:22.000 Yeah, that should be an option.

00:44:24.000 Somebody should make a...

00:44:26.000 Just stand up for one of those things.

00:44:29.000 I would love it.

00:44:30.000 Yeah, but most comics don't use them.

00:44:32.000 Most comics just write things down.

00:44:34.000 Like, you ever see Mark Norman's stack?

00:44:35.000 No.

00:44:36.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:44:37.000 He's got a stack, like a fucking phone book, like that thick of index cards and napkins that he keeps in his pocket. 1.00

00:44:44.000 And he's so crazy. 1.00

00:44:46.000 Like, you try to read it, it's literally like an insane person. 0.97

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:49.000 Because his handwriting's illegible.

00:44:52.000 Yeah.

00:44:53.000 And there's no order to them.

00:44:54.000 There's just stacks.

00:44:56.000 I mean, he might...

00:44:57.000 How many did he have in his pocket?

00:44:58.000 150?

00:45:00.000 Easy.

00:45:01.000 Easy.

00:45:01.000 Way more than that.

00:45:02.000 Easy.

00:45:02.000 200?

00:45:03.000 200 index cards?

00:45:04.000 Where do you...

00:45:05.000 In his pocket?

00:45:06.000 How do you go...

00:45:07.000 Here's what I'm going to do tonight.

00:45:08.000 Card 167 to one...

00:45:10.000 No, it's a...

00:45:11.000 How do you do it?

00:45:12.000 It's a window into the madness that is the brilliance of his comedy.

00:45:15.000 It's just all...

00:45:16.000 I remember Richard Lewis would throw out...

00:45:19.000 I mean, there'd be a piano up there, and he threw out a scroll of...

00:45:22.000 It was just legal pads of paper and crazy stuff all over.

00:45:28.000 Set it all up, and it's like... 0.97

00:45:29.000 He was a little nuts. 0.99

00:45:30.000 He was nuts with that. 0.98

00:45:31.000 Yeah. 0.56

00:45:32.000 That was also part of his thing, right?

00:45:33.000 There's Norman's, look at Norman's stack.

00:45:40.000 Look at that.

00:45:41.000 Look at that!

00:45:42.000 What?!

00:45:43.000 Yeah!

00:45:44.000 I can't believe you carry this around with you.

00:45:46.000 90% of that.

00:45:46.000 Bro, you're gonna get a bad back.

00:45:49.000 I'm worried about his back.

00:45:51.000 You can get a bad back from that.

00:45:53.000 It's like sitting on a fat wallet.

00:45:55.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:45:56.000 Taxi cab drivers, if they have too much shit in their wallet, you'll have a little bit of a lean. 0.99

00:46:00.000 You'll get a bulge in your back. 0.99

00:46:02.000 I could never do it.

00:46:03.000 I don't even know.

00:46:04.000 I need to have it organized.

00:46:08.000 Yeah, you were always an organized guy, even back in the day.

00:46:12.000 I have to be.

00:46:13.000 I admire that.

00:46:14.000 I think that's a very important thing that some comics feel like they don't have to do.

00:46:18.000 And you don't have to do it.

00:46:19.000 Some of the greats don't write anything down.

00:46:21.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:46:22.000 But I feel like when I write, if I just physically write, there's jokes that I will get that I won't get if I don't physically write.

00:46:29.000 And not a few of them, like a lot of them, like some of my best bits ever, came from sitting down and writing.

00:46:35.000 Do you find if you write the bit out, physically write it out, that you will remember it better, too?

00:46:42.000 By hand.

00:46:43.000 Yeah.

00:46:43.000 If you write it by hand, you remember it better.

00:46:45.000 That's proven.

00:46:46.000 So if I do an arena, I got this from you, by the way.

00:46:50.000 What?

00:46:51.000 I got this from you.

00:46:52.000 All right.

00:46:52.000 Because I'm not doing it anymore.

00:46:53.000 No, no, no.

00:46:54.000 I need to do it.

00:46:54.000 No, this is what I got from you.

00:46:56.000 Because I didn't have a rider, because I'm lazy.

00:46:59.000 So when I would go do theaters, they would just use Kevin James Rider.

00:47:03.000 So when I would...

00:47:04.000 Get at it!

00:47:04.000 Because we were the same manager.

00:47:06.000 Yes, we were the same manager.

00:47:07.000 I was like, what's shimmy eating?

00:47:08.000 Right.

00:47:08.000 Oh, did you see that?

00:47:09.000 Yeah, it was like all normal stuff.

00:47:11.000 And like whatever, like maybe I added whiskey to it or whatever it was.

00:47:15.000 But one thing you had was index cards.

00:47:17.000 Yeah.

00:47:18.000 And Sharpies.

00:47:19.000 I was like, oh, that's a great idea.

00:47:21.000 So every time I do an arena now, I set up index cards, and I will get there an hour early and write out all my bits.

00:47:29.000 Write out all the key points of the bits, all the things I want to talk about, and set that there.

00:47:35.000 And then next bit, set that there.

00:47:37.000 And so I have this coffee table, and I've got all these index cards.

00:47:41.000 Do you want to do a prompter or something like that?

00:47:42.000 You don't want to do a prompter?

00:47:43.000 No, no, no.

00:47:44.000 I don't need that.

00:47:44.000 I'm fine.

00:47:45.000 Once I write it all out, I've been doing it every night.

00:47:49.000 I know.

00:47:49.000 Every night.

00:47:50.000 It's like, I just like to do that as an extra little detail.

00:47:55.000 Just an extra little, just really dotting all your I's and crossing all your T's so I feel good when I get up there.

00:48:01.000 I don't know if I'm losing my memory or whatever, but it's like, I need bullet points up there.

00:48:07.000 Let me get you some of this.

00:48:08.000 Do you take any nootropics?

00:48:10.000 I take nothing.

00:48:11.000 Okay, this is what you're going to get.

00:48:13.000 I'm going to give you this.

00:48:14.000 Just take this one and I'll get you some more.

00:48:16.000 I'll send you some more.

00:48:16.000 That's Alpha Brain.

00:48:18.000 I'm really feeling it.

00:48:19.000 That's the black label Alpha Brain.

00:48:21.000 That is the top of the food chain Alpha Brain, the strongest one.

00:48:25.000 Am I going to see unicorns?

00:48:26.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:48:27.000 It helps memory.

00:48:29.000 It's really good for memory, and it's really good for focus.

00:48:33.000 It gives you a little extra juice mentally. 1.00

00:48:38.000 Now, if you're a moron, you're not going to notice it. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Like, I try fucking shit, bullshit, snake oil. 1.00

00:48:44.000 Trust me, as someone who makes a living using his brain, there are certain things that you can take that are not bad for you, that are just nutrients that enhance brain function. 1.00

00:48:54.000 You know what another one is?

00:48:55.000 Creatine.

00:48:57.000 Creatine.

00:48:57.000 Creatine's okay.

00:48:58.000 It's okay to do that?

00:48:59.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:00.000 Creatine's very safe.

00:49:01.000 Creatine's one of the safest supplements.

00:49:05.000 It's also...

00:49:06.000 What does that do, though?

00:49:08.000 It adds water to your body.

00:49:10.000 Your body has more water.

00:49:11.000 And that's one of the functions of it.

00:49:13.000 And it's one of the reasons why it makes your muscles look bigger.

00:49:15.000 It makes you stronger.

00:49:16.000 It really does work.

00:49:17.000 As a fitness supplement, if you're training and lifting weights, creatine is one of the very best things you can take.

00:49:25.000 Creatine, I would say beta-alanine.

00:49:26.000 That's another one.

00:49:27.000 I gotta give you this thing that Weidman gave me, these herbal pills, completely natural.

00:49:34.000 He gave me, we were playing golf in, I forget, Atlanta or whatever it was, with DC. Cormier was there.

00:49:41.000 It was just the three of us went out and I was, you know, I get up in the morning, my back is killing me, my everything, my joints are hurting.

00:49:49.000 I... I get to the course.

00:49:52.000 You're walking around hills up and down all day.

00:49:55.000 I'm like, I'm going to be so gone on this thing.

00:49:57.000 And Weibin says, take a couple of these pills you use.

00:50:00.000 They're completely herbal.

00:50:01.000 What is it?

00:50:03.000 It's ashwagandha.

00:50:04.000 I don't know.

00:50:05.000 Oh, ashwagandha.

00:50:06.000 Okay.

00:50:06.000 The key with this stuff is, I said, because he gave it to me, and he says, just do me a favor.

00:50:12.000 Mark right now where you feel, how you feel, how you're doing.

00:50:15.000 I go, I feel horrible.

00:50:16.000 My knees are killing me.

00:50:16.000 My ankle, everything.

00:50:17.000 I feel everything.

00:50:18.000 My back, you're swinging a golf club.

00:50:19.000 It's brutal.

00:50:21.000 So he goes, and just take three and tell me how you feel in a few hours or whatever it was.

00:50:27.000 And I forgot about it.

00:50:28.000 And around the ninth hole, I swear, around the turn, it's a couple hours later, I'm going, I feel amazing.

00:50:36.000 Like all the joints, you know, like the jujitsu finger thing when you first come back and it's like that pain.

00:50:42.000 I had all that joint pain, and it was gone.

00:50:46.000 I was literally pummeling with DC. I'm like, come on, let's go, man.

00:50:49.000 I feel amazing.

00:50:50.000 I go, it's the pills.

00:50:52.000 I go, this is insane.

00:50:54.000 I go, can you give me...

00:50:55.000 And DC tried them, too.

00:50:56.000 And DC said, I haven't wrestled in a long time.

00:50:59.000 He goes, he tried them.

00:50:59.000 He goes, I love...

00:51:01.000 I know nothing.

00:51:03.000 I go, I'm trying to figure out if this is a placebo effect or what it was.

00:51:06.000 He gave them to me again.

00:51:08.000 Same thing.

00:51:09.000 Felt amazing.

00:51:10.000 Does Weidman have those on his Instagram?

00:51:11.000 Can we find out what that stuff is?

00:51:14.000 Literally, I don't go into business with anyone.

00:51:16.000 I want in on this thing, whatever it is.

00:51:18.000 Dude, I have some.

00:51:20.000 Do me some?

00:51:21.000 Yes, just try it.

00:51:22.000 Just mark how you feel if you have any pain.

00:51:24.000 Because if you go, ah, I felt nothing.

00:51:26.000 It might be the case.

00:51:28.000 But these things, I did it a few times, and they ran out of them.

00:51:32.000 He couldn't get them, and then he got them again.

00:51:34.000 Everybody has given to them.

00:51:35.000 How long before they make that illegal?

00:51:36.000 Whatever it is.

00:51:36.000 I know.

00:51:37.000 They just made BPC-157 on Eagle.

00:51:41.000 I'm telling you, I'm out of shape now.

00:51:44.000 It is literally the only thing that gets me up, and I'm like, whoa, I could work out.

00:51:47.000 I could do it.

00:51:47.000 Really?

00:51:48.000 I took them.

00:51:49.000 Again.

00:51:50.000 I want to know what's in there.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, I'll find out from him.

00:51:54.000 It's all natural stuff, but the thing about it is...

00:51:57.000 Speed's natural, too, you know.

00:51:58.000 I don't know.

00:51:59.000 It's all coming from Earth.

00:52:00.000 I know.

00:52:01.000 Everything's natural.

00:52:02.000 The key, what they said in these things, the guy throws out...

00:52:07.000 Because even if you get ashwagandha, the active ingredient in it will...

00:52:12.000 Once it's gone, people sell it anyway, and it's like dust. 0.99

00:52:14.000 It's like crap in there. 0.96

00:52:16.000 He throws out like 70% of the stuff he said. 0.99

00:52:19.000 And I was like, I don't know.

00:52:21.000 I don't care what it is.

00:52:22.000 I just want to give it to my family because I want to feel better.

00:52:26.000 I'm just an older guy.

00:52:28.000 You've got to help me with that work.

00:52:30.000 I'm telling you.

00:52:31.000 I am literally right now, I feel like I am on the cusp of either being that athletic guy, go back into where I get in shape like crazy, or I'm wearing cardigan sweaters and literally, you know, Grandpa?

00:52:48.000 Well, just get a trainer. 0.99

00:52:51.000 I'm doing a documentary right now.

00:52:53.000 Yeah.

00:52:54.000 And I started it in January.

00:52:56.000 I'm assembling the best guys like Dolce is gonna help me out with this thing.

00:53:01.000 He's awesome.

00:53:02.000 We already did one.

00:53:03.000 We already did a documentary.

00:53:04.000 I did it on, it was called Cheat Day, where I thought you could work out like six days a week and just have one day to eat what you want and just do it that way.

00:53:16.000 And I had Dolce come in and be in it with me and work me out and do it. 0.89

00:53:22.000 And he kept going, you're not going to be able to do this.

00:53:24.000 And I go, why?

00:53:25.000 Because your one day is going to destroy everything.

00:53:28.000 And he said, and I remember this, he goes, you can't outwork a bad diet.

00:53:31.000 And he was right.

00:53:32.000 It was like, I would crush it so hard.

00:53:35.000 Like, people don't know what I can eat.

00:53:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:40.000 When people go, I'm a foodie.

00:53:41.000 It's like, you have no idea.

00:53:43.000 I have no idea how much I can crush food.

00:53:45.000 And that one day would just destroy it for the rest.

00:53:49.000 Yeah, the food thing is, you can't outrun a bad diet.

00:53:52.000 You can't.

00:53:53.000 You can't.

00:53:53.000 It's the best phrase.

00:53:55.000 It's real.

00:53:56.000 That's where it all comes from.

00:53:58.000 It all comes from food and we're all addicted to food.

00:54:01.000 And it's the craziest thing if you're addicted to food because you have to eat it.

00:54:06.000 It's not like heroin.

00:54:07.000 If you're addicted to heroin, like, oh, I've got a heroin problem and I'm going to take a little bit of heroin.

00:54:12.000 No, you're going to go full bore again. 1.00

00:54:13.000 You're going to be fucked. 1.00

00:54:15.000 It's one of the very few things where you're addicted to it and you've got to not be addicted to it anymore, but yet you still need to eat it. 1.00

00:54:23.000 What?

00:54:23.000 That's crazy.

00:54:25.000 That's a crazy conundrum.

00:54:26.000 And most people's minds can't really process that.

00:54:28.000 That's right.

00:54:29.000 And I can't, I just, I can't, because he's given me the diets to ultra, you know, just do this, this, and this, and this.

00:54:37.000 You know, it's formula.

00:54:38.000 It's very simple.

00:54:39.000 I mean, by the way, does every, who would need some, another grown man to tell you what to eat?

00:54:44.000 You know by now.

00:54:44.000 You know, seriously, you know.

00:54:47.000 And same thing with working out.

00:54:48.000 You don't know.

00:54:49.000 Move your body.

00:54:49.000 Whatever it is, you know what to do.

00:54:51.000 You may not know the intricate stuff of like split squats and this and that, work this thing.

00:54:56.000 But general health, you know I got to move my body more, eat better foods, less processed foods.

00:55:02.000 We know it.

00:55:03.000 But yet, man, I can't.

00:55:04.000 That's what this documentary I'm doing about.

00:55:06.000 It's like, why?

00:55:07.000 I have access to the greatest guys.

00:55:09.000 Why can't I still do it?

00:55:11.000 It's like...

00:55:12.000 And part of it is I need the Goggins, you know.

00:55:15.000 Yeah, you need a hype man.

00:55:16.000 You do.

00:55:17.000 You need someone around you who's also doing it.

00:55:19.000 Well, that's it.

00:55:19.000 It's community.

00:55:20.000 I don't have that.

00:55:21.000 It's like when I'm with Dolce, if we're on a movie together, he's got me in shape.

00:55:26.000 He's giving me the meals.

00:55:28.000 When I'm my own captain, I'm homeboy.

00:55:31.000 I'm gone.

00:55:32.000 I'm just gone.

00:55:33.000 You know, one thing that you can try.

00:55:36.000 That I guarantee will help you lose weight is the carnivore diet because if you do it, the one thing that you're gonna not eat is any carbohydrates.

00:55:46.000 You're only going to eat meat. 0.99

00:55:48.000 And if you cut out all bread, all pasta, all sugar, all bullshit. 0.99

00:55:54.000 I'm not saying this is a great diet. 0.98

00:55:55.000 I'm not saying this is the way to live.

00:55:57.000 I'm saying this is the best way for me to eat.

00:55:59.000 I've done every other kind of diet.

00:56:01.000 This one works the best for me.

00:56:03.000 And it's the one that keeps me lean.

00:56:05.000 Because when you're eating just protein, your body hits a satiety level.

00:56:09.000 If you're just eating steak, just steak.

00:56:17.000 Yes.

00:56:31.000 I'm going to keep going.

00:56:32.000 But if I just eat the steak, then my body starts processing ketones.

00:56:37.000 I start, instead of using carbohydrates, I'm only eating protein and fats.

00:56:43.000 Your body goes into like a ketogenic state.

00:56:46.000 You think better.

00:56:47.000 It gives you an extra gear with thinking.

00:56:50.000 The ketogenic thing is, I mean, that for me has worked.

00:56:53.000 It's, because Dolce will hate me for saying, like, he's like, you know, when they say blueberry, you know, carbs, he's like, carbs are fine for you, like the right carbs.

00:57:04.000 There's nothing wrong with carbs.

00:57:05.000 It's a fuel for your body.

00:57:07.000 But what I'm saying is, if you're trying to lose weight, one of the best ways to regulate your appetite is a carnivore diet.

00:57:13.000 Because you don't overeat with it.

00:57:15.000 But I think it's deeper than that for me.

00:57:17.000 I think it's like anything will work.

00:57:20.000 I fasted that way.

00:57:21.000 I've done everything.

00:57:23.000 It all works for a while, but why am I this size now?

00:57:29.000 Every time I'm like, You know, just recently, I started to stop comparing myself to other people and trying to, like, just say, get better than yourself yesterday.

00:57:40.000 Literally, that concept for me works.

00:57:42.000 It's like, when I'm in there, because he'll give me workouts, Dolce, to do, too, and I can't do it.

00:57:47.000 I don't do them.

00:57:48.000 I can't do the reps.

00:57:49.000 Four sets of 16th.

00:57:50.000 I get so bored by myself, like, I start doing my own stuff.

00:57:53.000 I'll do eclectic stuff.

00:57:54.000 Great stuff on a treadmill.

00:57:56.000 All movement stuff.

00:57:57.000 Like, I love it.

00:57:58.000 Just throwing punches, doing things.

00:57:59.000 But I walk around...

00:58:00.000 And then, there's no way to measure it though, because the next day I'm not doing that.

00:58:05.000 So it's like, I'm the guy who walks up to the bag, hits the bag a couple times, then walks, oh, look at this thing.

00:58:10.000 I have every piece of equipment in my gym.

00:58:14.000 I do.

00:58:15.000 If you saw my gym, You go, the rock live here?

00:58:18.000 You know, it's like, literally, it's like, they see me and they're like, what are you doing?

00:58:22.000 It's like, I buy everything because I buy into it.

00:58:24.000 I'm like, because it's a little piece of hope.

00:58:26.000 Yeah.

00:58:27.000 That's what it is.

00:58:28.000 Right, right.

00:58:29.000 A treadmill is a little piece of hope.

00:58:30.000 It's a hope, a new thing.

00:58:31.000 Like, I got the Jacob's Ladder.

00:58:33.000 I go, oh, it's great.

00:58:35.000 It's jujitsu.

00:58:36.000 You're grabbing a ring just as great.

00:58:38.000 Functional.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, it's collecting dust is what it's doing.

00:58:40.000 It really...

00:58:41.000 Because I don't use it.

00:58:42.000 So I need something...

00:58:43.000 That's what this thing is.

00:58:44.000 What can get me...

00:58:45.000 Because I am like most people, I'm telling you.

00:58:47.000 You don't need a lot of stuff.

00:58:49.000 But you need something to engage yourself every day.

00:58:52.000 There's got to be a bridge between what the Goggins way and people who do nothing.

00:58:56.000 You've got to get that...

00:58:58.000 I saw you were doing this with the other comedians, which I love.

00:59:01.000 It's like where you go, I just want them to walk.

00:59:03.000 Or just get them down there.

00:59:04.000 That is so important, man.

00:59:06.000 Because if you can get...

00:59:08.000 Into that groove, you do feel better.

00:59:10.000 Like, that's what blows my mind. 0.93

00:59:11.000 I've gotten in shape a couple times, and I'm like, I don't need to eat any more crap.

00:59:16.000 I love the working, I love the way I feel.

00:59:18.000 And then it slides right back.

00:59:20.000 What happens?

00:59:21.000 It's one of the things about you that makes you really funny, is you're indulgent.

00:59:26.000 You're a wild dude who's like trying to stay buttoned up.

00:59:29.000 It's like part of what's really funny about you.

00:59:31.000 And that indulgence, it goes into other things.

00:59:35.000 And for you, it's food.

00:59:37.000 Luckily, it's not gambling or something really crazy.

00:59:40.000 Right.

00:59:41.000 But I quit things, too.

00:59:44.000 I feel like I have the same almost intensity that you have, but I'm not a finisher.

00:59:51.000 We started jujitsu.

00:59:54.000 Did we start at the same time?

00:59:56.000 Yeah, basically at the same time.

00:59:57.000 Beverly Hills jujitsu.

00:59:58.000 You were the one who brought me down there.

00:59:59.000 Yeah.

01:00:00.000 I'm a blue belt.

01:00:03.000 And barely, 30 years.

01:00:06.000 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:00:06.000 It's like because I start, stop, I don't finish.

01:00:08.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:00:08.000 And that's in my head.

01:00:09.000 I'm like, if I would have done what Joe did, man, look where I could have been.

01:00:14.000 And I'm trying to...

01:00:16.000 And then I start comparing.

01:00:18.000 You can do it now.

01:00:19.000 You do it now.

01:00:19.000 And if I play that game, I'm done.

01:00:22.000 Because I can never catch up to other people.

01:00:24.000 Well, a lot of it's like learned behavior patterns.

01:00:26.000 You just get stuck in.

01:00:29.000 And if you're unlucky, you can get a bad behavior pattern and are constantly quitting things.

01:00:34.000 Right.

01:00:34.000 But if you're lucky...

01:00:35.000 I got very lucky that when I was 15, I got obsessed with martial arts.

01:00:40.000 Right.

01:00:40.000 Because that was the first thing I ever did in my life where I didn't think I was a loser anymore.

01:00:47.000 I was like, I realized that if you work really hard at something and you're completely obsessed with something, It could transform your life.

01:00:55.000 So my life from the time I was 15 to the time I was 18, I was a different human.

01:01:02.000 From 14, 15, I was insecure.

01:01:06.000 I'd get bad social anxiety.

01:01:08.000 We moved around a lot.

01:01:10.000 I'd get picked on a lot.

01:01:12.000 And I went from that to...

01:01:14.000 Being completely confident, being just a different human being.

01:01:19.000 I was fighting all the time.

01:01:20.000 To me, the fear of conflict was pretty much gone, because I was just engaging in conflict all over the country.

01:01:30.000 Flying around my whole high school, all my time. 0.77

01:01:32.000 So I got in my head that the way to feel better and to get life to improve is to just fucking dig in and keep going and don't ever quit. 0.99

01:01:44.000 Don't fucking quit. 0.99

01:01:45.000 That's so great. 0.99

01:01:46.000 But I got lucky that that's something that I fell into when I was 15. I often think about, you know, there was one day, dude, one day when I was coming home from a baseball game where I walked up the stairs We were getting ready to ride the T, which is like the Boston subway system.

01:02:03.000 And we were getting ready to ride the T, but the line after the baseball game was like really long.

01:02:09.000 There were so many people that were on the T. So we, just for a goof, walked up the stairs to see this Taekwondo school.

01:02:14.000 And as we were walking up the stairs, this guy John Lee, who was a national champion at the time, is preparing for the World Cup.

01:02:22.000 And he was like 28 years old.

01:02:23.000 He was in his prime.

01:02:25.000 And he was kicking this bag.

01:02:26.000 And as I was going up the stairs, I was hearing whomp!

01:02:30.000 And then the sound of a chain, like whomp! 0.99

01:02:35.000 And I went up and watched this guy kick the bag, and I was like, what the fuck is that? 0.99

01:02:40.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:02:44.000 And I was like, I want to learn how to do that.

01:02:48.000 And I was there the next day.

01:02:49.000 I signed up.

01:02:50.000 I had enough money to pay for the class.

01:02:52.000 I signed up, and I was there every day.

01:02:54.000 From then on, I was there every day.

01:02:56.000 I mean, every day.

01:02:57.000 I worked out every day of the week.

01:02:59.000 I worked out Sunday.

01:03:00.000 I worked out every day.

01:03:01.000 I never took time off.

01:03:02.000 I was there for hours every day.

01:03:04.000 I'd just eat food, go there, and I'd be starving by the time I left, and then head home and go back again.

01:03:11.000 You're blessed, brother, because you have something.

01:03:15.000 That most people don't have that.

01:03:17.000 They don't have that.

01:03:18.000 Everybody has the intensity in the beginning.

01:03:20.000 When they see something, they're like, I want to do this.

01:03:22.000 I want to say, I do it.

01:03:23.000 I get all pumped up.

01:03:24.000 I'm like, this is it.

01:03:25.000 This is all I want to do.

01:03:27.000 And then it's like, you don't want to suffer.

01:03:30.000 You don't want to put the work in.

01:03:32.000 That's the difference between we both love jujitsu.

01:03:35.000 Well...

01:03:36.000 To love something, you gotta know it.

01:03:38.000 You have to know it, right?

01:03:39.000 You can't love something you don't know.

01:03:41.000 Well, I love it, but you know what I don't love?

01:03:45.000 Obviously, I don't love the mornings, getting the cold gi on.

01:03:49.000 You know, there's things about getting in with a...

01:03:51.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:51.000 Getting on the mats.

01:03:52.000 They're sweaty.

01:03:53.000 They've been there since like...

01:03:54.000 5 o'clock in the morning.

01:03:55.000 I've got to travel to do it.

01:03:57.000 It's going to hurt.

01:03:58.000 These guys are coming after me.

01:03:59.000 It's like you're in there and I'm nervous.

01:04:02.000 So I stop.

01:04:04.000 I get back into it.

01:04:05.000 I'll let it go for a while.

01:04:07.000 You do.

01:04:08.000 You go through that.

01:04:09.000 And you become...

01:04:10.000 You overcome those little things.

01:04:12.000 And it's like that's how you grow.

01:04:14.000 It's like I get right up to the edge of it and then I'm like...

01:04:16.000 I just...

01:04:17.000 So I don't love it as much as you.

01:04:18.000 It's like you have to...

01:04:19.000 You have to...

01:04:20.000 You commit.

01:04:21.000 You have to suffer.

01:04:22.000 You have to suffer.

01:04:23.000 That's the only way you're going to show your love for anything is you got to suffer for it.

01:04:28.000 There's got to be that.

01:04:29.000 You've got to overcome that.

01:04:30.000 Otherwise...

01:04:32.000 You don't.

01:04:32.000 You die.

01:04:34.000 Everybody has two people inside of them.

01:04:37.000 Everybody has the person inside of them that wants to go to sleep, the person inside of them that wants to quit.

01:04:44.000 That guy's winning, by the way.

01:04:45.000 That's the guy who you see before you right now.

01:04:48.000 And the other guy that's like, no, this is what you need to do.

01:04:52.000 But the problem is, with a lot of people, that other guy that's like, no, that's what you need to do, that person's really timid.

01:04:58.000 And that person, they just, well, maybe it'd be better if we just went for a run. 1.00

01:05:02.000 Like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:05:03.000 I'm gonna eat chips. 1.00

01:05:04.000 And that timid version of you is what you need to cultivate into being, like, the boss.

01:05:12.000 That's the boss.

01:05:14.000 So I have a boss.

01:05:15.000 My boss is that voice.

01:05:17.000 I let that voice win every time.

01:05:20.000 I love it. 1.00

01:05:20.000 That voice says, shut the fuck up and get in the cold water, pussy. 1.00

01:05:24.000 That's dying to yourself, man. 1.00

01:05:26.000 That's literally saying, I'm not going to go where I'm comfortable.

01:05:30.000 I'd much rather do this.

01:05:31.000 I'm sure you'd...

01:05:32.000 You know, much rather do something than jump in a cold plunge every, you know, get a cup of coffee and go hang out and talk, you know.

01:05:39.000 You do that, and that's something I need to do more and more.

01:05:43.000 Like, we all do.

01:05:44.000 It's like, it's the only way you're gonna embrace it and get better at things.

01:05:48.000 I'm trying, literally with flying, like I used to, I drive everywhere these gigs, and it was getting so much that I'm like, I'm afraid of flying, but I'm like, I gotta just die to myself.

01:05:57.000 Just do this.

01:05:58.000 Have faith.

01:05:58.000 You're gonna be fine.

01:05:59.000 Just do it.

01:05:59.000 And each time you do it, you're like, all right, we did it.

01:06:01.000 And you have a bad fight, and you're like, I'm not doing that yet.

01:06:04.000 But it's like, you know what I'm saying.

01:06:06.000 You just gotta give the boss some strength.

01:06:09.000 Yes.

01:06:10.000 And the boss has to win a bunch of battles.

01:06:13.000 And when the boss wins a bunch of battles, and he wins them every day, then eventually the boss becomes a louder voice.

01:06:18.000 And then you get it to the point where the boss gets to tell you what to do and you don't deviate.

01:06:24.000 And even though you have all those feelings, every time I lift the lid on the cold plunge, I'm like, let's not do this.

01:06:30.000 Every time. 1.00

01:06:31.000 But the boss is like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:06:33.000 The boss gets mad if those voices pop up. 1.00

01:06:36.000 So I'll make you do an extra minute, bitch. 1.00

01:06:38.000 Get the fuck in there. 1.00

01:06:39.000 I love it. 0.99

01:06:39.000 And there's two pieces of advice I always give comics, or just young men in general. 0.99

01:06:46.000 Aspire to be the person you pretend to be when you're trying to get laid Just be that person.

01:06:53.000 Instead of pretending to be that person, become that person.

01:06:56.000 Become a person that you would admire.

01:06:59.000 It's possible to do.

01:07:00.000 If you can pretend to be that person, you can actually be that person.

01:07:04.000 Aspire to be that person.

01:07:05.000 And then the second one is, live your life like a documentary crew is following you around.

01:07:10.000 Live your life like as if you wanted the whole world to go, wow, that guy's really killing it.

01:07:16.000 Like, I love the way that guy handles things.

01:07:19.000 And then...

01:07:20.000 You're gonna fail. 1.00

01:07:22.000 You're gonna fuck up. 1.00

01:07:23.000 You're a human. 1.00

01:07:25.000 Everyone's gonna fall into a, like, God, what a loser I am. 0.98

01:07:29.000 Just go back with the same ethic. 0.61

01:07:32.000 Get back into it with the same mindset.

01:07:34.000 Live your life like a documentary crew is following you around everywhere.

01:07:38.000 How would you want to be seen?

01:07:40.000 Well, be that person.

01:07:42.000 Actually be that person.

01:07:43.000 Become that person.

01:07:44.000 You can become that person.

01:07:46.000 It's funny.

01:07:46.000 We're doing that now.

01:07:48.000 We started in January, and I think I might have went up four pounds.

01:07:52.000 I don't even know.

01:07:54.000 It's like, you know, because I go down, and then it's like, but you're right.

01:07:57.000 You're right.

01:07:57.000 And I'm going to show it all, you know, because that's what it is.

01:08:00.000 It's the struggle.

01:08:01.000 It's the process.

01:08:02.000 Dude, you just need a hype man.

01:08:03.000 If we were neighbors.

01:08:04.000 Oh, buddy.

01:08:05.000 By the way, I love Austin.

01:08:06.000 I'm coming here.

01:08:07.000 I would be here every day.

01:08:08.000 Come move here. 0.99

01:08:08.000 Fucking move here. 0.99

01:08:09.000 Move here. 1.00

01:08:10.000 The club's always available.

01:08:12.000 You'll have fun.

01:08:13.000 Great place to work out.

01:08:14.000 Come here to my gym.

01:08:15.000 We can work out together.

01:08:16.000 We've got a beautiful gym here.

01:08:18.000 Dude, I think I'm just going to rip my kids out of school.

01:08:20.000 We're going.

01:08:21.000 Let's just do it.

01:08:21.000 It's great here, man.

01:08:22.000 It really is great here.

01:08:24.000 The people are so friendly.

01:08:26.000 The way they treat freedom here is like a religion.

01:08:30.000 Freedom is a different thing in Texas.

01:08:33.000 They are not interested in controlling what you buy and where you go and what you do on your land.

01:08:40.000 You can own a zebra. 0.99

01:08:41.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:08:42.000 There's more wild tigers, or there's more tigers, actual tigers, in captivity, in private collections in Texas, than there are of all of the wild of the world. 0.99

01:08:56.000 That's insane.

01:08:58.000 Well, you just sold me.

01:09:00.000 People who have tigers!

01:09:01.000 I need zebras and tigers.

01:09:02.000 I drove by a place the other day that had giraffes.

01:09:05.000 People who have giraffes. 0.94

01:09:07.000 That's incredible. 0.99

01:09:07.000 You can have whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

01:09:09.000 If it's your land, they just leave you alone. 0.99

01:09:11.000 They're like, this is your land.

01:09:12.000 You do whatever you want.

01:09:13.000 You know?

01:09:14.000 And the comedy here, they love it.

01:09:18.000 It's booming!

01:09:19.000 I got my beard trimmed at a place just yesterday, and they were talking about the mothership.

01:09:24.000 They go, and it's great.

01:09:26.000 It's a whole different vibe here, and everybody's great.

01:09:29.000 And I'm like, really?

01:09:31.000 And he was like, oh, yeah.

01:09:32.000 Well, this is the first time in our lives where a scene emerged.

01:09:36.000 There was kind of a little bit of a scene here in Austin.

01:09:39.000 There was a few clubs, a few comics, some good comics came out of Austin, for sure.

01:09:43.000 But there was no real scene where a bunch of assassins lived in town.

01:09:48.000 And now there's like Shane Gillis lives here.

01:09:51.000 Duncan Trussell lives here.

01:09:53.000 Tom Segura lives here.

01:09:54.000 Christina Pazitsky lives here.

01:09:56.000 Tony Hinchcliffe lives here.

01:09:58.000 David Lucas lives here. 0.99

01:09:59.000 It's like, holy shit, Brian Simpson lives here. 0.99

01:10:02.000 Tim Dillon lives here. 0.99

01:10:03.000 He's got a house.

01:10:03.000 He's got multiple houses.

01:10:04.000 He lives everywhere.

01:10:05.000 But there's so many killers here.

01:10:09.000 It's just every night you go to that club and it's just packed with great comedy.

01:10:13.000 You know what it is?

01:10:14.000 I'm telling you.

01:10:15.000 It's community.

01:10:16.000 I don't have that.

01:10:18.000 I have it in little bursts when I'm with people on a movie set or whatever it is, but it's like I don't have that in my everyday life.

01:10:27.000 I need that.

01:10:29.000 I really think that's a big thing.

01:10:30.000 Because I need the hype man.

01:10:32.000 But I need to be in that group where you just start doing it.

01:10:35.000 I did one training camp with Weidman and those guys earlier on.

01:10:42.000 With Aljo and these guys.

01:10:44.000 And, you know, I just jumped in with them.

01:10:47.000 And it's like, I was with them for, I don't know, a few weeks, three weeks, you know, and then I had to go out.

01:10:53.000 But it was like, you developed this brotherhood.

01:10:55.000 Yes, it was so much fun.

01:10:57.000 It was, you know, going through everything, you're eating together, you're running sprints together.

01:11:00.000 And I was like, whoa, this is really, really cool.

01:11:03.000 Well, that's one of the great things about fight teams, especially like Cerro Longo.

01:11:07.000 It's like, those guys are so tight.

01:11:09.000 They're all friends.

01:11:10.000 They're great, always.

01:11:10.000 Such a tight group.

01:11:11.000 They're all friends, and they've got so many killers there, too.

01:11:13.000 Jesus Christ.

01:11:14.000 Aljo, Merab, Chris Wyman.

01:11:16.000 Merab, this is the funniest thing ever.

01:11:17.000 I came my first day on the camp, whatever, and they were sparring in the octagon, and I had my headgear on, and everybody's pairing off with everybody.

01:11:26.000 You know, Wyman goes, you know, and Longo's setting it up.

01:11:29.000 Just, you guys go with it, you guys, everybody, and switch it around, this and that.

01:11:32.000 And I was, like, worried.

01:11:34.000 I go, Chris, I don't want to go in.

01:11:35.000 You know, just get in there.

01:11:36.000 Get in there.

01:11:36.000 Just mix it up.

01:11:37.000 And I'm going, I'm not even a fighter.

01:11:39.000 I can't do this.

01:11:40.000 You know, whatever.

01:11:41.000 I got in there.

01:11:42.000 Everybody else.

01:11:43.000 Aljo knows me.

01:11:44.000 You know, these guys know me. 0.70

01:11:46.000 Marab thinks I'm a fat, old fighter.

01:11:48.000 Like, he thinks he doesn't know anything.

01:11:49.000 I get the headgear on.

01:11:50.000 He doesn't recognize me as an actor.

01:11:52.000 And he starts dancing around.

01:11:54.000 I'm going, whoa.

01:11:54.000 I know right away.

01:11:55.000 He doesn't know I'm an outside guy.

01:11:58.000 He thinks I'm a guy in a cam.

01:11:59.000 And he just starts going crazy.

01:12:01.000 And I go, oh my god!

01:12:02.000 And I'm throwing punches.

01:12:04.000 And this guy's moving around like crazy on me.

01:12:07.000 And I'm like, I'm looking for Weidman.

01:12:08.000 And it was amazing.

01:12:10.000 He was the sweetest guy ever.

01:12:11.000 But I got lit up by him in two seconds.

01:12:13.000 I take it off.

01:12:13.000 I go, I'm an actor, man.

01:12:14.000 That guy does not get tired.

01:12:16.000 Nothing.

01:12:17.000 He's wild to watch.

01:12:18.000 Do you see him with Henry Cejudo?

01:12:20.000 He's got Henry Cejudo picked up over his shoulders.

01:12:23.000 And he's talking.

01:12:24.000 And he walks him over towards Mark Zuckerberg.

01:12:27.000 That's it.

01:12:27.000 It's Henry Cejudo.

01:12:29.000 That's an Olympic gold medalist. 1.00

01:12:31.000 And you're carrying him around like he's a kid in a schoolyard who fucked up. 0.99

01:12:35.000 It's a different... 1.00

01:12:36.000 Oh man, he's an animal.

01:12:38.000 Merab is an animal.

01:12:40.000 And the sweetest guy.

01:12:41.000 The best.

01:12:42.000 Yeah, he was really cool.

01:12:43.000 The best.

01:12:43.000 I love that dude.

01:12:44.000 And everybody loves him.

01:12:45.000 The response he gets from the audience, people love him. 0.99

01:12:48.000 His last speech was so ridiculous. 0.94

01:12:50.000 When he wins, he just gets so fired up. 0.99

01:12:53.000 He's amazing. 0.98

01:12:54.000 They fucking love Merab, man. 0.98

01:12:56.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:12:57.000 Look at him.

01:12:58.000 That's Henry Cejudo, dude.

01:13:00.000 That is crazy.

01:13:00.000 You have to understand how crazy it is that he's carrying around that guy on his back.

01:13:04.000 With a smile.

01:13:06.000 Two division UFC champion.

01:13:09.000 He won the flyweight medal, the flyweight belt, and he won the bantamweight belt.

01:13:14.000 And Marab is literally toying with him.

01:13:17.000 He's smiling and carrying him.

01:13:20.000 I mean, that is so wild to see.

01:13:25.000 That was one of the most shocking things.

01:13:26.000 I mean, I've seen a lot of shocking things of people getting knocked out.

01:13:29.000 I've seen a lot of things.

01:13:30.000 But to see someone treat Henry Cejudo like that, carry him around like that, laughing with a smile on his face, it was like...

01:13:36.000 Now I can say I sparred with that guy.

01:13:39.000 There you go.

01:13:41.000 But yeah, that camaraderie, we needed as comics.

01:13:43.000 That's why we opened up the club.

01:13:46.000 We opened up the club because we realized that one of the functions that the Comedy Store had for all of us, it was home base.

01:13:52.000 We had a home base, and it was a great old club with this amazing history, and we were proud to be a part of it.

01:13:58.000 And so we'd all get together, and we were proud.

01:14:00.000 We were Comedy Store comics.

01:14:01.000 It was fun.

01:14:02.000 You'd go out on the road, and you'd come back home, and you'd see family.

01:14:05.000 Yeah, and some of the best shows that we would have all year would be like Tuesday night, Wednesday night shows at the store.

01:14:11.000 We'd go there, and it was just so fun.

01:14:13.000 And everybody's just so happy to be around each other, other comedians, just have fun and talk about jokes and talk about stand-up.

01:14:19.000 And then when we came out here, I was like, well, there's no home base.

01:14:22.000 There's no home base.

01:14:23.000 We did the Vulcan, but it's not set up good for a green room.

01:14:26.000 I was like, we need a real home base.

01:14:28.000 And then I started looking.

01:14:30.000 I started looking right away.

01:14:31.000 And the first place I bought was a cult theater.

01:14:35.000 It was owned by a cult.

01:14:37.000 That fell apart.

01:14:38.000 And then we got this opportunity to get that place on 6th Street.

01:14:41.000 And I was like, alright, this is it.

01:14:43.000 And then we just started building.

01:14:45.000 And it's better than I ever could have hoped.

01:14:48.000 It's a real community now. 0.98

01:14:50.000 You go into that green room and there's like fucking 20 dudes in there just talking. 0.97

01:14:54.000 Laughing, having fun. 0.98

01:14:56.000 Soder's there and Lewis is there.

01:14:58.000 It's like people from the road, guys from New York, guys from LA, people are coming in and out of town every week.

01:15:05.000 It's fun, man.

01:15:06.000 I miss that, man, because I have it when Sandler goes on tour and he'll bring me out and I go with him and it's just so much fun.

01:15:14.000 It's so much fun, man.

01:15:16.000 That's what we're missing.

01:15:18.000 If you're the guy who just does the theaters and you're with your family all week and then you have your opening act and you go on the road, it's not the same experience.

01:15:26.000 It's not.

01:15:27.000 I've been that for years.

01:15:28.000 That's the guy I am.

01:15:29.000 I miss it, man.

01:15:31.000 I really do.

01:15:32.000 Come to Texas, Jimmy.

01:15:33.000 I know.

01:15:34.000 Come on, buddy.

01:15:35.000 I got you.

01:15:36.000 You gotta...

01:15:37.000 Once I take this...

01:15:38.000 It's a good place to live.

01:15:40.000 Alpha brain, man.

01:15:41.000 It's gonna change everything.

01:15:42.000 I wanna take those Weidman pills. 0.99

01:15:43.000 Do we find out what the fuck they are? 0.99

01:15:45.000 I'm gonna bring them in to you. 0.99

01:15:46.000 I have some.

01:15:47.000 Just try them.

01:15:47.000 And be...

01:15:48.000 I'm ready.

01:15:49.000 You're gonna be honest.

01:15:49.000 I'm gonna try them right away.

01:15:50.000 I can't wait to try them.

01:15:51.000 In my mind, I've already tried it. 0.96

01:15:56.000 It had me wrestling in D.C. That's ridiculous.

01:15:59.000 Wrestling in D.C. and playing golf.

01:16:01.000 That was the fun one.

01:16:02.000 I go in to pummel him just messing around while he's holding a golf club, and you just feel, you're like, oh my gosh.

01:16:07.000 He's a bear.

01:16:08.000 Oh my gosh.

01:16:13.000 Two-division champion, man.

01:16:15.000 You're almost like you're playing with him, but you get scared.

01:16:18.000 It was like I was with Boss.

01:16:19.000 You introduced me to Boss.

01:16:21.000 You got me to Boss.

01:16:22.000 When I met Boss, I remember I first had...

01:16:25.000 It was just the King and Queen started, and I was like, we could have this guy come and train us.

01:16:30.000 This guy that we used to watch, you know...

01:16:32.000 Yeah.

01:16:32.000 What was it on...

01:16:34.000 Pancrase.

01:16:35.000 And he had the high boots and stuff like that.

01:16:37.000 And then I was like, whoa, man, we can get this guy to our dressing room, and we can work out with him.

01:16:44.000 I had a little space on the set where we would train, and I brought him in that first day, and he couldn't even speak English.

01:16:50.000 It was me and Rock, and I think my brother was there.

01:16:53.000 And I'm talking to him and trying to keep the conversation going, and he's just sitting here.

01:16:58.000 He doesn't even know what's going on, really, just looking at me.

01:17:00.000 And then those guys left the room And I felt like I was in the room with, like, a leopard.

01:17:05.000 You know, like, where you go, where you're feeding, as long as you're feeding a conversation stuff, it's okay, keeps eating it, and then it looks at you again.

01:17:10.000 He was just looking at me, and I ran out of conversation.

01:17:14.000 I ran out of conversation.

01:17:15.000 I'm like, alright, so, uh...

01:17:17.000 And he's just looking at me, and I'm like, this is a different human in front of me, you know?

01:17:21.000 Especially back then.

01:17:22.000 Oh, gosh.

01:17:23.000 Things could go bad.

01:17:24.000 Yeah.

01:17:24.000 Boston was a scary dude.

01:17:26.000 Dude.

01:17:26.000 In his fighting days.

01:17:27.000 He was the first guy that the UFC hired that I got excited about.

01:17:32.000 Right.

01:17:32.000 Because he was a guy that I knew who he was, because I had seen him fight in Pancrase, and He was one of the very first high-level strikers that made it into MMA, that Dutch kickboxing style.

01:17:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:45.000 In Pancrase, you'd have to hit with the palms.

01:17:48.000 And Boss figured out that instead of bitch-slapping people, you just spear them with your palm like a punch. 1.00

01:17:54.000 Spear them? 0.99

01:17:55.000 And he would say he would hit this part of the wrist, as opposed to even the palm.

01:17:59.000 He hit the bone.

01:17:59.000 His bone.

01:18:00.000 And he would just work the bag.

01:18:02.000 Yeah, he worked the bag with his palms.

01:18:04.000 To develop that power.

01:18:06.000 And he had this crazy ability to pull his hand back.

01:18:08.000 Like, his hand, like, my hand doesn't really go much back further than that, but Boss' hand goes way back, like this.

01:18:16.000 Yeah.

01:18:16.000 But he's got these freaky long fingers.

01:18:17.000 Crazy hands. 0.87

01:18:18.000 Weird. 0.73

01:18:18.000 He's a weird... 0.73

01:18:19.000 He's a real freak.

01:18:21.000 Every injury I have...

01:18:23.000 To this day, from turf to intimate, came from him.

01:18:27.000 He's the greatest guy in the world, by the way, once we got to know each other.

01:18:29.000 Oh, he's awesome.

01:18:30.000 He's one of my best friends.

01:18:32.000 We threw mats in my garage in Sino, I remember, and he would come over and train me, and we would start on our knees and stuff like that, and I remember one time, we would just start on our knees, and we were locked up, and I remember I out-muscled him, and I pulled him to the side,

01:18:48.000 and then two seconds later, he reversed me, and I was like, whoa, but I got him right there.

01:18:51.000 That was pretty sick.

01:18:53.000 And the next go we had it.

01:18:54.000 He pushed, he goes, you don't have it.

01:18:56.000 He rolled me back and I heard a pop.

01:18:59.000 And I thought it was my knee, but it was my toe, my big toe.

01:19:03.000 Oh no, turf toe.

01:19:05.000 Fur, still here.

01:19:06.000 Really?

01:19:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:08.000 Never got rid of it.

01:19:09.000 These pills help!

01:19:10.000 These pills help that.

01:19:12.000 These pills should be the back of a wagon.

01:19:15.000 This is for everything.

01:19:18.000 Diarrhea, gonorrhea.

01:19:20.000 I just want to make sure.

01:19:23.000 You're going to be like, dude, they do nothing.

01:19:25.000 I bet they do something.

01:19:28.000 I guarantee if you're having that kind of experience with them, they do something.

01:19:32.000 I just wish I knew what they were.

01:19:34.000 So does the audience.

01:19:35.000 Well, I'll find it out for you.

01:19:37.000 I don't want to do it now when we don't have it.

01:19:38.000 Why don't you go grab them?

01:19:39.000 Go grab them and bring them in here. 0.66

01:19:40.000 I want to know what they are.

01:19:42.000 How are you going to know?

01:19:42.000 Will you look at it and know what they are?

01:19:44.000 Yeah.

01:19:45.000 Well, is it just the pill by themselves?

01:19:46.000 It's a pill by themselves.

01:19:47.000 Oh, there's no bottle?

01:19:48.000 No, no, no.

01:19:49.000 It's sketchy.

01:19:50.000 No, no, no.

01:19:50.000 It's not sketchy.

01:19:51.000 This shit just got sketchy. 0.99

01:19:52.000 I promise you it's not sketchy. 1.00

01:19:54.000 No, no, no.

01:19:55.000 Because it was a company.

01:19:56.000 I'm telling you.

01:19:56.000 We will figure it out.

01:19:57.000 Okay.

01:19:59.000 You're going to love this stuff.

01:20:00.000 Yeah.

01:20:01.000 I don't know about all this.

01:20:02.000 No, I think you will.

01:20:05.000 You and I will sit down with this stuff, and I'm telling you, we're going to save the world with this stuff.

01:20:11.000 If an old man is telling you this, I am, you know, I'm telling you. 0.99

01:20:16.000 It's the one thing that's like, whoa.

01:20:17.000 Dude, we're both old now.

01:20:18.000 Isn't that wild?

01:20:18.000 Remember when we were kids?

01:20:19.000 Never thought you were going to be an old man.

01:20:21.000 Never.

01:20:22.000 How am I going to be an old man?

01:20:23.000 How is that possible?

01:20:24.000 I'm a young guy.

01:20:24.000 I'm always a young guy.

01:20:25.000 Still a young guy.

01:20:26.000 That's exactly it.

01:20:27.000 Also, you never got beaten down by life.

01:20:30.000 Because you have a great job.

01:20:31.000 If you have a job that sucks, you can get beaten down by life.

01:20:35.000 But if you have a job like we have, we enjoy our job.

01:20:39.000 It is what we do for work, but it's also what we enjoy.

01:20:42.000 And it is work, but it's fun.

01:20:44.000 It's great.

01:20:46.000 The stress in work is different.

01:20:49.000 But they say you're only as happy as your least happy kid, right?

01:20:52.000 Oh, that's true.

01:20:53.000 So it's like when you've got that going on, it always bounces it out where you're like, man, the greatest life here ever.

01:20:58.000 And then it's like, oh my gosh, I've got to deal with this.

01:21:00.000 Yeah, and it's not easy for kids.

01:21:03.000 No.

01:21:04.000 Especially today with social media and just the weirdness of the world. 0.99

01:21:10.000 I mean, if you're a fucking kid today, you're a 15-year-old kid and you're in high school and you see what the president is, you're like, what? 0.99

01:21:18.000 That's the guy running the world? 0.99

01:21:21.000 What is happening?

01:21:22.000 How crazy is this?

01:21:24.000 And then you've just gone through COVID, so everyone's confused.

01:21:27.000 What happened?

01:21:27.000 Why was that locked up for two years?

01:21:29.000 What happened?

01:21:30.000 Now here you are, you're about to make it out there in the world, and you're on social media all the time.

01:21:36.000 It's a tough ride for kids today.

01:21:38.000 It is a very, very, very tough ride with new challenges that we never had to experience.

01:21:43.000 Dude, my oldest daughter is on the spectrum, and so we started seeing this anxiety and this disconnection, and it was She developed, you know, these tics, you know, I mean, like really bad, where she started like hitting herself,

01:21:59.000 you know, like couldn't, uncontrollable.

01:22:01.000 She's a big, strong girl, you know.

01:22:03.000 She was about, I think, 16, 15 at the time.

01:22:07.000 And, you know, I remember, I mean, it was so scary for me.

01:22:16.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:20.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:27.000 And, you know, where it was coming from.

01:22:31.000 So they got her to calm down and she was still ticking and stuff.

01:22:36.000 And I talked to the neurologist, is that what it is?

01:22:38.000 I guess, I don't know, the doctor, you know, and I go, what is this?

01:22:42.000 What can we do?

01:22:43.000 And he said, he basically said, she's developed these ticks.

01:22:47.000 It's like, You know, this is something you're just going to have to learn to deal with.

01:22:52.000 You know, you're going to have a child like this and you have to prepare yourself that you and your wife are going to have to, you know, deal with this for the rest of your life this way.

01:22:57.000 And I was like, there's got to be a different way.

01:22:59.000 He's like, there's no way of really...

01:23:01.000 We don't know, you know.

01:23:02.000 And I just...

01:23:03.000 I went...

01:23:04.000 Oh man, it crushed me.

01:23:05.000 So it was like me and my wife were like, what do we do?

01:23:07.000 And my wife read this book.

01:23:09.000 She was just doing all this crazy research and she found this book, Disconnected Kids.

01:23:15.000 And it was by Dr. Robert Melillo.

01:23:17.000 So, you know, I got involved with him.

01:23:20.000 I called him and he literally took my daughter.

01:23:22.000 He goes, I know what this is.

01:23:23.000 He goes, it's okay.

01:23:25.000 He says, I can work with her.

01:23:27.000 And we were just out of, like, we were lost.

01:23:30.000 We didn't know what to do.

01:23:31.000 I mean, violent.

01:23:32.000 You know, it was like, oof.

01:23:35.000 So we took it to this doctor, and within two weeks, no drugs, anything, two weeks, ticks were gone.

01:23:42.000 And he said, they're going to still be there.

01:23:43.000 They're going to come up every once in a while.

01:23:45.000 But he fixed her, man.

01:23:46.000 And I'm like, whoa.

01:23:47.000 It blew my mind, man.

01:23:49.000 It's like, so I was like, I just want to give other parents hope.

01:23:53.000 And I knew another guy who had a daughter who's severely autistic.

01:23:58.000 And, you know, she was nonverbal and, you know, violent too. 0.97

01:24:03.000 And he said, he goes, and he worked with them.

01:24:07.000 And she's getting so much better now in speaking.

01:24:11.000 And it's an amazing thing this guy does.

01:24:14.000 He's great.

01:24:15.000 How is he doing it?

01:24:15.000 What is he doing?

01:24:17.000 I don't know at all.

01:24:18.000 You know, he works with the brainwaves and, again, not a doctor, but there's no, you know, medication in there involved, which was very important, because that's what they were recommending to the hospital, just put her on some medication.

01:24:30.000 And turn her into a zombie. 1.00

01:24:32.000 Exactly.

01:24:32.000 I can't do that.

01:24:33.000 And she's so much better.

01:24:34.000 She still has the tics every once in a while, you know? 0.93

01:24:37.000 But she's great.

01:24:38.000 She's connected.

01:24:38.000 He gets her connected.

01:24:39.000 He does all these, like, brain things, and he works with the, you know, and how it all ties into the motor, you know, whatever that is.

01:24:48.000 It's so fascinating.

01:24:49.000 It is.

01:24:50.000 And he's another guy who's like, I really...

01:24:53.000 Is this it?

01:24:54.000 I've been told via your assistant this is what it is.

01:24:58.000 Okay.

01:24:58.000 There's no name for it, apparently.

01:24:59.000 No name for it?

01:25:00.000 Yeah.

01:25:00.000 What do you mean there's no name?

01:25:03.000 What do you mean there's no name?

01:25:04.000 Okay, so it has ashwagandha, shatavari, kavach seed, fenugreek seed, papali,

01:25:20.000 guaduchi, shijalit, oh, shalajit.

01:25:27.000 Shalajit.

01:25:27.000 I've heard of that stuff before.

01:25:29.000 I've heard of Shalajit.

01:25:33.000 Gokshura and Santhi.

01:25:35.000 Oh boy.

01:25:36.000 Boy, that's a mouthful, isn't it?

01:25:38.000 I think it's not that the ingredients are that unique.

01:25:42.000 I think it's the fact that the way they do it is, I don't know, that he says he doesn't use...

01:25:49.000 Anything that's been...

01:25:50.000 He throws out a majority of it.

01:25:53.000 That's why it's hard to come by.

01:25:54.000 And it's active ingredients for everything.

01:25:56.000 They could sell you all this stuff.

01:25:57.000 But if you don't get it from the right place, it's just not going to do anything.

01:26:01.000 Whatever it is, I give it to you.

01:26:03.000 Really?

01:26:04.000 Okay.

01:26:05.000 I'm interested.

01:26:07.000 I've never tried ashwagandha.

01:26:08.000 Here's something that has the same ingredients.

01:26:11.000 I'm not saying this is it.

01:26:12.000 This just has the same ingredients.

01:26:13.000 Influence 650 herbal supplements.

01:26:16.000 Healthy skeletal muscular response.

01:26:20.000 Maintain healthy skeletal muscular system.

01:26:23.000 Okay.

01:26:25.000 Interesting.

01:26:26.000 Give it a shot.

01:26:27.000 Send me that.

01:26:28.000 Send me that, Jamie.

01:26:29.000 That has the same ingredients?

01:26:30.000 I mean, I literally copied and pasted and Googled.

01:26:33.000 They're showing the same thing, same dosage. 0.98

01:26:35.000 That looked like a bullshit low-res image company. 0.99

01:26:40.000 That's right. 0.99

01:26:41.000 Try it.

01:26:42.000 Okay.

01:26:43.000 I know nothing.

01:26:44.000 I'm going to try it.

01:26:45.000 Thank you.

01:26:45.000 I'm excited.

01:26:46.000 And I'm excited to try this.

01:26:47.000 You give it to everybody?

01:26:48.000 I need this.

01:26:49.000 Anybody who's like... 0.97

01:26:50.000 I just...

01:26:52.000 For me.

01:26:52.000 I want it for me.

01:26:53.000 Yeah.

01:26:54.000 And I know I'm not gonna, you know, if it does, I sense to be it.

01:26:59.000 Like, I'm like, if it's not working, it's not working.

01:27:01.000 Actually, here you go.

01:27:01.000 It's on Dolce's website.

01:27:02.000 If it works for me.

01:27:04.000 Oh, Dolce has it.

01:27:05.000 Yes.

01:27:05.000 Okay.

01:27:06.000 That might be it.

01:27:07.000 It must be it.

01:27:08.000 It must be it, yeah.

01:27:08.000 If it's on his website, that's it.

01:27:11.000 Infla650.

01:27:12.000 Okay.

01:27:14.000 But, uh...

01:27:16.000 Yeah, it works.

01:27:19.000 Herbs work.

01:27:20.000 There's a lot of them that work.

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:22.000 Some of them are really good.

01:27:23.000 That's what's interesting about pharmaceutical drugs is the vast majority of them are sourced originally from plants.

01:27:29.000 A lot of them from the Amazon.

01:27:30.000 They've come up with a bunch of different pharmaceutical drugs just based on compounds they found in the Amazon.

01:27:37.000 I don't even know.

01:27:39.000 Yeah.

01:27:41.000 I know nothing about this stuff.

01:27:43.000 So when you started doing this documentary, what was the purpose?

01:27:46.000 To find out the process, because it's like, I'm going to do a movie right now.

01:27:51.000 Every time I try to get in shape, it's always like, I always have to get in shape.

01:27:54.000 It's almost like a fighter who fights and then gets so out of shape again, it's like, well, that's it.

01:28:01.000 I mean, I shot a movie...

01:28:03.000 Two years ago, where I play an exorcist priest, like, and I wanted it to be, like, it was really crazy horror, like, legit story.

01:28:11.000 So I wanted to be, look a little different, be, you know, write in the part and just have a different character.

01:28:18.000 So I got down to 230. I really worked hard, you know, like, that's low for me.

01:28:24.000 And shot it and thought we were done with it.

01:28:27.000 And I got to pick up a couple scenes.

01:28:30.000 I'm 280. No!

01:28:33.000 Dude, I'm gonna have to look like either right in that this priest got stung by a bee and it just swelled up or I got to get in shape for it.

01:28:41.000 So I got to get in shape for it.

01:28:42.000 I got to get back down to that again.

01:28:43.000 How much time did you have?

01:28:44.000 I have as much as I, you know, we'll shoot it when I'm ready, but it's like, it's waiting there to do a couple scenes where- 50 pounds?

01:28:51.000 How long does it take for you to lose 50 pounds?

01:28:52.000 I could lose it really quick.

01:28:53.000 I could fast and lose it.

01:28:54.000 Seriously, I can lose it and...

01:28:56.000 I could lose it quick.

01:28:59.000 Like how many weeks?

01:29:00.000 For 50?

01:29:02.000 I could do it in a month.

01:29:03.000 What?

01:29:05.000 That sounds so insane.

01:29:06.000 Less than a month.

01:29:07.000 Really?

01:29:08.000 50 pounds?

01:29:11.000 That's amazing.

01:29:12.000 I can do it fast.

01:29:13.000 Fasting, just not, you know, but that's eating nothing. 1.00

01:29:16.000 You must feel like shit, though. 0.99

01:29:17.000 No. 1.00

01:29:17.000 No? 1.00

01:29:18.000 No.

01:29:18.000 When I fasted, I didn't, you know.

01:29:20.000 How many days have you fasted in a row?

01:29:22.000 You don't want to know.

01:29:24.000 How many days?

01:29:25.000 41 and a half.

01:29:27.000 What?

01:29:28.000 41 and a half.

01:29:29.000 You went 41 days with no food?

01:29:32.000 Water.

01:29:34.000 And a little salt in the water, like electrolytes.

01:29:37.000 And I lost.

01:29:38.000 Wow.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 See, when I lock on, I can do something.

01:29:42.000 Oh, I know that.

01:29:43.000 But that's a crazy lock on.

01:29:45.000 41 days.

01:29:46.000 How much did you lose?

01:29:47.000 I was fasting for...

01:29:48.000 It was mental.

01:29:49.000 It was like I felt so bad for my daughter.

01:29:51.000 I said, I'm going to do this for you.

01:29:52.000 It was something that I could do and apply it to.

01:29:55.000 And it was so emotionally tied into me.

01:29:57.000 And I started fasting.

01:29:58.000 And I go, I didn't say I'm going to do 40 days.

01:30:01.000 I just said, I'm going to do whatever I can.

01:30:02.000 I'm going to start fasting right now.

01:30:04.000 And I was praying for her.

01:30:05.000 I was worried.

01:30:06.000 And I did like four or five days, and I was getting through it, but I was wanting to get off it then.

01:30:11.000 I was like, well, I've got to start to eat because I'm really hungry.

01:30:13.000 And I went and I talked to my daughter.

01:30:16.000 I go, how are you feeling?

01:30:17.000 She goes, I've been feeling good.

01:30:18.000 She goes, have you been fasting for me?

01:30:20.000 And I go, yeah.

01:30:22.000 And she goes, thank you so much.

01:30:23.000 And I literally went, okay, I've got to keep going.

01:30:28.000 I couldn't stop then, so I just kept going day at a time.

01:30:31.000 But it's amazing how your body, you don't need it.

01:30:35.000 As long as you have fat on you like that.

01:30:37.000 I lost, I think, like 60 pounds.

01:30:42.000 Wow.

01:30:43.000 Yeah.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, there's that guy that was in the 1960s, right, Jamie?

01:30:49.000 That one dude, he fasted for 360-something days.

01:30:53.000 He was really big, right?

01:30:53.000 Yeah.

01:30:54.000 Yeah, you can do it.

01:30:55.000 All he did was just take IV vitamins.

01:30:57.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 Just water and vitamins.

01:30:59.000 I didn't even take vitamins.

01:31:00.000 Like, you don't need anything, you know.

01:31:02.000 Wow.

01:31:02.000 And I felt...

01:31:02.000 You took no vitamins.

01:31:04.000 Nothing.

01:31:04.000 Wow.

01:31:08.000 It cleansed everything out of me.

01:31:10.000 I'm not saying it's the way to go for everybody.

01:31:13.000 I don't know.

01:31:15.000 There's definitely some health benefits to fasting, especially short-term fasting.

01:31:19.000 But if you're big and you can do it, why not?

01:31:23.000 That's it.

01:31:24.000 It's like, well, how are you going to survive?

01:31:25.000 Your body eats fat.

01:31:26.000 That's it.

01:31:27.000 That's what it was doing.

01:31:28.000 And you probably had good energy.

01:31:29.000 I was pretty good for a while, and then you'd have these dips, and you'd feel like, wow, I feel miserable.

01:31:36.000 I'm off.

01:31:36.000 I'm done.

01:31:37.000 And then you fight through it, and the next day you wake up, you're like, I'm okay.

01:31:41.000 It's like, keep going.

01:31:42.000 Just keep going.

01:31:42.000 Your body just says, all right, this is what we're dealing with.

01:31:45.000 We're eating fat.

01:31:46.000 I literally wrapped up the 41 and a half days at You're Gonna Crack Up.

01:31:51.000 I went to Pizza University, which is a university to learn how to make pizzas.

01:31:55.000 And I didn't even eat.

01:31:55.000 I forgot I had booked it.

01:31:56.000 And I'm like, oh my gosh.

01:31:58.000 And I go, I'm not gonna kill it while I'm there.

01:32:01.000 It was a three-day course where you get like a little diploma.

01:32:03.000 I wanted to know how to make the dough and everything like that.

01:32:05.000 And I went, oh no, this falls within my diet.

01:32:08.000 I just wanted to make it past 40 days.

01:32:10.000 And I went down there, and I did the whole thing, and I never ate a bite.

01:32:15.000 Wow.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, so it was crazy.

01:32:17.000 But then you blow back up to this.

01:32:19.000 So it's like, that's what the documentary's about.

01:32:22.000 The documentary's about the process and finding something where you can help People with their health.

01:32:29.000 It is what you were talking about.

01:32:30.000 It's just get up and do something.

01:32:31.000 Walk.

01:32:32.000 Do it a little bit more each day is the key.

01:32:34.000 You don't even notice it's happening and all of a sudden you're this active.

01:32:38.000 A big part of the key is having other people to deal with.

01:32:41.000 That's one of the great things about, like you were saying, training with Weidman and those guys.

01:32:46.000 It's like you're in a group where everybody else is working hard too, and it's contagious.

01:32:51.000 You get caught up in the momentum, and it's great, and everybody comes out of there feeling better, and you all went through something together.

01:32:58.000 Yes.

01:32:58.000 That's it.

01:32:59.000 That helps.

01:32:59.000 It's very hard to do it by yourself.

01:33:01.000 It's very hard to do it by yourself.

01:33:02.000 It not only helps, it's like we need it.

01:33:03.000 I think we're built for that.

01:33:05.000 We're made for that community.

01:33:06.000 Yep.

01:33:08.000 100%.

01:33:09.000 100%.

01:33:10.000 When you don't have it, it's hard.

01:33:12.000 Yeah, it's not a good life if you don't have it.

01:33:15.000 It's just not.

01:33:15.000 You don't want to be by yourself.

01:33:17.000 Right.

01:33:17.000 You know, like, you always hear about those, like, Howard Hughes-type characters.

01:33:22.000 They're by themselves.

01:33:23.000 They're scared of germs. 1.00

01:33:24.000 They're fucking hiding from everybody. 1.00

01:33:25.000 Oh, your world gets smaller and smaller and smaller. 1.00

01:33:27.000 Yeah, the bigger you get, the world gets smaller.

01:33:29.000 And it's not good.

01:33:30.000 Not good for you.

01:33:31.000 No.

01:33:32.000 Yeah, you could lose your marbles.

01:33:35.000 I'm coming.

01:33:36.000 I think I'm coming.

01:33:37.000 I think you should come.

01:33:38.000 My wife's hearing this, she's gonna hear this for the first time, but I think this is it, yeah.

01:33:41.000 It's a great place to live.

01:33:42.000 I look here in Florida and, you know...

01:33:45.000 Yeah.

01:33:46.000 This is a great place to live.

01:33:48.000 It's fantastic.

01:33:49.000 Again, I've never spent time here in Austin.

01:33:51.000 I was here for a few days writing and...

01:33:54.000 I felt immediately at home.

01:33:56.000 Like, the moment I moved here.

01:33:58.000 I was like, this is where I was supposed to be.

01:34:00.000 Like, it made sense.

01:34:02.000 Made sense.

01:34:03.000 It's like, of course, Texas.

01:34:04.000 I thought you'd never leave LA, too.

01:34:07.000 I'm so glad you did.

01:34:08.000 That was so cool.

01:34:08.000 Well, I had been wanting to leave for a while.

01:34:12.000 You know, I tried Colorado for a little bit.

01:34:14.000 You moved out even from LA, further out in the stick, right?

01:34:17.000 In the hills.

01:34:18.000 Yeah, I was out in the hills.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.000 I was always trying to be...

01:34:21.000 Look, I bought my first house.

01:34:23.000 I bought my first house out in the hills on, like, four acres.

01:34:27.000 Right.

01:34:28.000 Because I was like, I don't want to be around people.

01:34:30.000 Right.

01:34:30.000 I want quiet.

01:34:32.000 Right.

01:34:32.000 I want animals.

01:34:33.000 I want to look out my window and see a hawk fly by.

01:34:35.000 That's what I want to see.

01:34:36.000 That's what I like.

01:34:37.000 You got that here.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, but that's what I like.

01:34:39.000 I don't want to be overwhelmed by people.

01:34:42.000 I don't think that's healthy for you.

01:34:44.000 And with me, LA just got sketchy during COVID. The George Floyd riots, I was like, this is sketchy.

01:34:53.000 I was watching a bunch of looting.

01:34:54.000 I saw these kids break into a clothes store. 0.99

01:34:57.000 I was like, God damn it. 0.99

01:34:59.000 This is sketchy. 0.99

01:35:00.000 These cops can't do anything.

01:35:02.000 They're overwhelmed. 1.00

01:35:03.000 And then there's all this defund the police shit going on. 0.99

01:35:06.000 And everywhere I would go, I would go like, you'd see tents. 0.99

01:35:10.000 And I was like, this is a society that's fallen apart.

01:35:13.000 And if you don't get out now, you're going to get stuck in something unrecognizable.

01:35:18.000 This is not what you signed up for.

01:35:20.000 When I lived in LA in the 90s, LA was great.

01:35:23.000 It was great.

01:35:24.000 Kind of a lot of traffic, but other than that, it was cool.

01:35:27.000 Great place to live.

01:35:28.000 All these comedians and artists and fun.

01:35:31.000 Sunny out all the time.

01:35:32.000 Yay! 0.99

01:35:33.000 We're in the right spot.

01:35:34.000 But after COVID, after the George Floyd riots, I was like, uh-uh. 0.99

01:35:39.000 I'm getting the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:35:41.000 And then it's just the lockdowns and all the ridiculousness and hypocrisy and just realizing you have to pay attention to how fucking stupid the mayor is. 1.00

01:35:50.000 I never paid attention to the mayor. 1.00

01:35:52.000 I didn't give a fuck who the mayor was. 0.99

01:35:54.000 And then when COVID comes along, I'm like, oh, that guy's a real problem. 0.99

01:35:57.000 Like, these people can become real problems.

01:35:59.000 They can tell you you have to close your family business. 1.00

01:36:03.000 We've had a business for 30 years, and this fucking dipshit, who shouldn't be managing a fucking Taco Bell, is managing the entire city's economy. 1.00

01:36:12.000 Like, oh my god. 1.00

01:36:14.000 And then they went after him, too, which is even great.

01:36:16.000 Like, Black Lives Matter was protesting in front of his house, like, 30 days in a row. 1.00

01:36:21.000 That's what you get, bitch! 1.00

01:36:22.000 That's what you get. 1.00

01:36:24.000 It just turns on itself.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:26.000 And then you brought it here and you planted these seeds and look what's growing, man.

01:36:30.000 It's just so amazing.

01:36:32.000 Luckily, a lot of other comics decided to move out here.

01:36:35.000 That was the big one.

01:36:36.000 Ron White was the king.

01:36:37.000 He was always here.

01:36:38.000 Ron White was here before COVID. He knew.

01:36:40.000 Ron White, I remember calling Ron White up.

01:36:43.000 I go, why are you living in Austin? 0.91

01:36:44.000 He goes, He goes, I'll still come to the comic store, but I fucking love it. 0.92

01:36:48.000 He goes, I love Texas. 0.96

01:36:49.000 I love being here.

01:36:50.000 I love living in Austin.

01:36:51.000 It's a good city. 1.00

01:36:52.000 I was like, damn, it sounds like a good fucking city. 0.99

01:36:54.000 And so when the pandemic came around and we were looking for places to live, we had some friends that were coming to look in Austin. 0.99

01:37:00.000 I was like, let's look in Austin.

01:37:02.000 And we came and we saw this house on the lake.

01:37:04.000 I was like, let's go.

01:37:06.000 My buddy, I have my buddy, Scott Voss, he lived in New York like most of his life, in the city, and then he just abruptly moved to New Brunfels, you know, New Brunfels, and he's always like a bow hunter and all this stuff, and he loved that stuff.

01:37:20.000 It's for bosses.

01:37:21.000 Boss is, they're great friends.

01:37:23.000 Yeah, Boss is out here too now.

01:37:25.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

01:37:25.000 I know the whole thing.

01:37:27.000 Yeah, he's, they're amazing.

01:37:29.000 And he loves it.

01:37:31.000 I'm always like, how is it, you know, like, are you, you know, missing New York?

01:37:34.000 And he's like, not a stitch.

01:37:36.000 You know, it's like.

01:37:37.000 You can always visit New York.

01:37:39.000 Yeah.

01:37:39.000 I love New York.

01:37:40.000 I do too.

01:37:40.000 I love to go back and visit.

01:37:41.000 I love to visit and eat.

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 Well, I'm on the island, so it's not in the craziness.

01:37:46.000 Right.

01:37:46.000 The island is a different state.

01:37:49.000 Yes, it really is.

01:37:51.000 It's a different state.

01:37:51.000 100%.

01:37:52.000 It really is.

01:37:53.000 Yep.

01:37:53.000 It's a different state.

01:37:54.000 It's not New York City.

01:37:55.000 No.

01:37:56.000 No.

01:37:57.000 No.

01:38:00.000 It's very right wing.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, it's different.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, it's much more families.

01:38:05.000 Yeah, much more normal.

01:38:07.000 Which is what I need.

01:38:09.000 Well, I used to love working on the island.

01:38:11.000 That was my favorite place to work.

01:38:13.000 Governors.

01:38:14.000 Yes.

01:38:15.000 Chuckles.

01:38:15.000 Do you remember Chuckles?

01:38:16.000 Yes.

01:38:18.000 Is that Mineola?

01:38:19.000 It was in Mineola.

01:38:21.000 That's right.

01:38:23.000 Eastside was great.

01:38:24.000 That was a sad day when Eastside died.

01:38:26.000 Closed.

01:38:26.000 And then they opened another one, Richie, and it just got away from him.

01:38:30.000 It was just not a great...

01:38:32.000 He took on a massive store, a massive warehouse and started rebuilding it and just got in over his head with stuff.

01:38:42.000 The boom was slowing down a little bit and it just got tough.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, Long Island has always been a good place for comedy.

01:38:50.000 There's always real good comics coming out of Long Island.

01:38:53.000 There's always like a Long Island attitude.

01:38:55.000 Like you get guys who come into the city from Long Island.

01:38:58.000 I was always afraid of that.

01:38:59.000 That was another move like, oh my God, making that move to the city.

01:39:02.000 People are like, you're going to go to the city?

01:39:03.000 I'm like, I'm not going to the city yet.

01:39:04.000 I'm not ready.

01:39:05.000 I was so scared the first time I performed in the city.

01:39:08.000 I was so scared.

01:39:09.000 Where'd you go?

01:39:10.000 Boston Comedy Club?

01:39:11.000 No, Catch a Rising Star.

01:39:12.000 Yes, me too.

01:39:13.000 Luis Ferranda.

01:39:13.000 Yes.

01:39:14.000 Yes.

01:39:14.000 I was so terrified.

01:39:15.000 Wow.

01:39:16.000 I thought I was going to bomb.

01:39:17.000 I was so nervous.

01:39:18.000 I've never been more nervous for a show in my life.

01:39:21.000 Because all the greats went through there, you know?

01:39:23.000 I remember I watched a video that was online of Richard Pryor.

01:39:27.000 Wow.

01:39:27.000 Guess back then I must have watched a tape because this is we're talking about like the early 90s It must have been a tape but I watched a VHS tape of Richard Pryor on stage at catch and I was like oh my god I'm gonna perform in the same place and I knew Richard Belzer had performed there I knew it was just a legendary club.

01:39:47.000 I couldn't believe I was there I couldn't believe I was allowed to be on the stage Me too, man.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, but when it went okay, it went good.

01:39:56.000 I was like, okay.

01:39:58.000 And then the next show I did The City, I was like, loose.

01:40:00.000 I was like, this is just a crowd.

01:40:02.000 These are just people.

01:40:03.000 That's it.

01:40:03.000 And then I just got loose.

01:40:04.000 But the allure of The City was always like, you can't trick them.

01:40:10.000 They're going to be the smart people. 0.99

01:40:12.000 You can trick all those losers that come to see you at a bar in the middle of Massachusetts, but if you're going to go to New York fucking city, you better have your act together. 0.99

01:40:21.000 Your act has to be tight. 0.99

01:40:24.000 Stand Up New York, the comic strip.

01:40:25.000 The comic strip, remember?

01:40:26.000 Eddie Murphy was there.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, that was a tough one.

01:40:28.000 I'm like, oh my gosh, Eddie was here.

01:40:29.000 Yeah.

01:40:29.000 And you see that Chris Rock and these guys, and I'm like, whoa.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 Well, the clubs in New York, there were so many of them.

01:40:36.000 Boston Comedy Club.

01:40:37.000 Yeah.

01:40:39.000 Dangerfields.

01:40:40.000 I played in front of probably three people, right?

01:40:45.000 One o'clock in the morning at Dangerfields.

01:40:47.000 Yeah.

01:40:48.000 I was there once at Dangerfields, and my spot was at 9.30, and I got there at 9 o'clock, and everyone was by the bar.

01:40:53.000 I'm like, what's going on?

01:40:54.000 There's no crowd.

01:40:55.000 And while we were there, two people showed up.

01:40:58.000 And remember Bobby?

01:40:59.000 Oh, he put the show on?

01:41:00.000 Yeah, he was crazy, Bobby.

01:41:01.000 Welcome to Danger Foods!

01:41:04.000 You started the show.

01:41:06.000 And then the show started.

01:41:07.000 Yes.

01:41:07.000 And we all did stand-up for two people.

01:41:09.000 I love it.

01:41:10.000 They were held hostage.

01:41:12.000 How could they leave?

01:41:12.000 We're going to get out of here.

01:41:13.000 This sucks. 0.99

01:41:14.000 Like, what? 0.99

01:41:15.000 There's five more guys coming.

01:41:16.000 There was something about back then that I miss so much.

01:41:20.000 I guess it's the community again, but that whole drive to the newness of being in these clubs.

01:41:27.000 The comedy cellar, you know?

01:41:29.000 Also, we didn't know if we were going to make it.

01:41:31.000 That's it. 0.99

01:41:32.000 Back then, you were like, am I going to be a real professional, or is this just bullshit? 0.99

01:41:36.000 Should I think about getting a job job? 0.99

01:41:38.000 Right.

01:41:39.000 I quit my last job way early.

01:41:41.000 Did you?

01:41:42.000 Yeah, I was working at a place called Granger in the warehouse, just pulling orders.

01:41:46.000 It was like an industrial equipment company, and I hated it.

01:41:50.000 It was so hot, and I'm miserable.

01:41:53.000 And I'm doing an improv class, and a couple dates I have here and there, and I was like, I think I'm going to turn into comedy.

01:42:01.000 I think I can make a living of this stuff.

01:42:03.000 And it's like, pulled out way too.

01:42:05.000 Living at home, my folks, and it's like, I might have pulled out a little early.

01:42:08.000 But, you know.

01:42:09.000 But that's the way you do it, though.

01:42:11.000 You'll find jobs and things to do to make money while you're struggling.

01:42:15.000 Right.

01:42:16.000 But if you have a net, you'll fall.

01:42:19.000 Right.

01:42:20.000 You're right.

01:42:21.000 You have to be 100% all in.

01:42:25.000 Because in the beginning, like in the first days when you and I knew each other, we were just like kind of opening acts.

01:42:31.000 Right.

01:42:31.000 Which is like, you're not really making much money.

01:42:33.000 Right.

01:42:34.000 Maybe you could headline some little scrub room in the middle of nowhere.

01:42:37.000 Right.

01:42:37.000 Make a couple hundred bucks that night, drive to Connecticut.

01:42:40.000 You know, so it was precarious.

01:42:42.000 Like, who knows what's going to happen?

01:42:44.000 I could fall apart.

01:42:45.000 We all knew guys who fell apart.

01:42:46.000 It was...

01:42:47.000 Guys who are like headliners who are big comics and they just fell apart.

01:42:51.000 They fell apart.

01:42:52.000 They couldn't handle it for whatever reason.

01:42:55.000 It's weird.

01:42:56.000 Fear of success or just like whatever it is.

01:42:58.000 They just didn't know how to go to the next level or...

01:43:01.000 I think for them it's a lot of that they didn't have community.

01:43:04.000 I think back then even more so than it's a problem now.

01:43:08.000 It was way more of a problem back then.

01:43:10.000 Because everybody was in competition with each other.

01:43:12.000 Nobody looked at other people like other people that are just like me that are out there doing great and so that's awesome for everybody.

01:43:18.000 Back then, like, if you and I were friends and there was a Tonight Show host spot available And they were going to talk to you and they were going to talk to me.

01:43:29.000 We couldn't be friends anymore.

01:43:30.000 Right.

01:43:31.000 The people would turn on each other.

01:43:32.000 They would backstab each other.

01:43:34.000 Like the famous David Letterman and Jay Leno things.

01:43:37.000 Right.

01:43:37.000 Leno's hiding in the closet.

01:43:38.000 Closet?

01:43:39.000 Yeah.

01:43:40.000 They were in competition with each other.

01:43:42.000 It was everything.

01:43:42.000 Did you have a group of guys in Boston around you when you first started?

01:43:45.000 Or no, was it just you?

01:43:46.000 Me and Fitzsimmons were always tight.

01:43:47.000 Right.

01:43:48.000 And we started out literally a week apart from each other in open mics.

01:43:52.000 And then Chris McGuire.

01:43:54.000 I was always tight with Chris.

01:43:55.000 And there was a few guys from that era that I stayed friends with that we did a lot of road gigs together.

01:44:01.000 And we were tight.

01:44:02.000 And that was real fun.

01:44:03.000 Mostly Fitzsimmons.

01:44:05.000 Because Fitzsimmons, he was a good buddy.

01:44:07.000 And we did a lot of gigs together when we were starting out.

01:44:10.000 We'd drive to Rhode Island for free.

01:44:12.000 And just do open mics in Rhode Island.

01:44:13.000 I drove to Allen, Pennsylvania for, I mean, like 20 bucks or something.

01:44:17.000 I remember, like, I go, This has cost me more than tolls.

01:44:20.000 I was like, but I'm lent.

01:44:21.000 Yeah, but that's the only way to do it.

01:44:23.000 You have to put in those hours and that time.

01:44:27.000 And if you're with someone else who's also doing it, it makes it way easier.

01:44:30.000 So yeah, it made it easier for sure to be friends with Fitzsimmons because we were both doing the same thing at the same time.

01:44:35.000 But there wasn't a group like we had in L.A. In LA, that was a different thing.

01:44:42.000 That was a real brother and sisterhood.

01:44:45.000 Everybody was so tight.

01:44:48.000 And everybody was so supportive.

01:44:49.000 Because it coincided with the internet.

01:44:52.000 When the internet came along, then instead of everybody being competition with each other for a sitcom or a TV show, now everybody was on each other's podcasts.

01:45:03.000 So now it was only beneficial.

01:45:06.000 It was like if I could go do Schultz's podcast, that would make my Netflix special get more people to watch it.

01:45:12.000 If I could go do this, it would do that.

01:45:15.000 If I could do all these different things, it would actually promote stuff and it would make it bigger and better.

01:45:19.000 And then it was like everybody's podcast grew because they were on other people's podcasts.

01:45:23.000 And no one suffered.

01:45:25.000 There was no negative.

01:45:26.000 Like of all the people that I ever had on my podcast that went on to do podcasts and tour and do arenas, it only helped me.

01:45:33.000 It only helps.

01:45:33.000 It never hurt.

01:45:34.000 It only helps.

01:45:35.000 It helps them.

01:45:36.000 It helps me.

01:45:36.000 It helps the audience.

01:45:37.000 It helps everybody.

01:45:38.000 Helping them is insane.

01:45:39.000 I mean, look at the careers you've built from this.

01:45:41.000 I just expose people to talented people that already existed, and that benefits me.

01:45:46.000 Absolutely, 100%, but it's like you're given this platform and it does, it grows because then they're able to do it and bring up other people and you know...

01:45:55.000 And then other people are seeing that and they're applying that in their own lives.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, it definitely wasn't okay.

01:46:00.000 Back in the day, I felt like I had my brother Gary and Rock and you know, Adam Ferrara and Richie, we had this tight group that we would look out for each other.

01:46:09.000 Those guys, you know, we would try to do that, but other than that, it was back It was like they were just trying to get in the way and don't tell this guy about this audition.

01:46:17.000 I hated that.

01:46:19.000 I hated that.

01:46:20.000 Well, that's why I loved hanging out with you and Ferrara.

01:46:24.000 You could find good dudes and you all hang together and all enjoy each other's success.

01:46:30.000 And do shows together, too.

01:46:31.000 That was the most fun thing.

01:46:33.000 The best, man.

01:46:34.000 Wasn't that the best?

01:46:35.000 It was the best!

01:46:36.000 Oh, I loved it so much.

01:46:37.000 We had so many fun gigs.

01:46:38.000 It was such a good time.

01:46:39.000 And just to be on the sideline, because you're one of those guys that if I'm laughing hard in the room, you go crazy.

01:46:46.000 Oh, you get me nuts.

01:46:47.000 You build me up. 0.70

01:46:48.000 You are.

01:46:49.000 You are the hype man, because you'd fire me up.

01:46:51.000 Well, I always knew you at your best.

01:46:54.000 Right.

01:46:54.000 I always knew who you were, like if we were just at a bar and you just start going off about something and we're crying, laughing, you had this ability to get fucking furious about something in the most hilarious way and I was like, you gotta bring Shimmy out.

01:47:09.000 I know.

01:47:10.000 You gotta bring Shimmy out on that stage. 1.00

01:47:12.000 You were one of the few guys.

01:47:14.000 I'm telling you, you and Sandler are guys that believe in me more than I believe in me.

01:47:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:19.000 Really.

01:47:19.000 I mean, it's amazing.

01:47:21.000 Well, sometimes your special quality is to be comfortable around your friends, and then that's where you show your full potential.

01:47:28.000 Right.

01:47:28.000 And then it's up to your friends to say, you've got to just carry that with you on the stage, because that's you.

01:47:35.000 Like the bit that you do about pulling up to the curb, and the lock cancels out when the girl grabs the head.

01:47:43.000 That's a full shimmy bit.

01:47:45.000 Yes.

01:47:46.000 You built it with me. 0.99

01:47:47.000 You were like, you gotta go nuts. 0.90

01:47:48.000 And I was like, more and more and adding in. 0.94

01:47:51.000 I literally jumped in the audience because you got me.

01:47:55.000 When we were up at Montreal, you were like, you gotta go shimmy.

01:47:58.000 And I went nuts.

01:47:59.000 I jumped on some guy in the crowd.

01:48:01.000 I've never done that before.

01:48:03.000 Ever.

01:48:04.000 I freaked.

01:48:04.000 This was like, you know, but that got me my deal.

01:48:06.000 That's literally being, you know.

01:48:09.000 Yeah, it was awesome.

01:48:10.000 It was awesome.

01:48:10.000 But that's you at your best.

01:48:13.000 But sometimes, like, that's, you know, sometimes people need a coach.

01:48:16.000 Right.

01:48:16.000 As long as you need a hype man.

01:48:19.000 My friends do that all the time.

01:48:21.000 We do it for each other.

01:48:22.000 They do it to me.

01:48:23.000 They'll say, like, Tony, last night we were going over a bit.

01:48:26.000 He's like, I really think that when you're saying this, maybe say that first. 0.97

01:48:31.000 And I was like, damn, maybe you're right.

01:48:32.000 And every now and then, someone will see things with fresh eyes, and they've got to pull you aside and go, I think you should do it this way. 0.98

01:48:39.000 And you're like, ooh, I like it.

01:48:41.000 Let me try it.

01:48:42.000 And I'll try it the next show.

01:48:43.000 And they're like, oh my god, you're right.

01:48:44.000 That's it!

01:48:45.000 Think of that.

01:48:46.000 It's a comfort level.

01:48:47.000 It's a comfort level when you're comfortable with somebody and you get past that, you open up and you know each other.

01:48:56.000 That's exactly what it was, like I said.

01:48:59.000 We would go out and do these, and that would be it.

01:49:01.000 You would give me these things and get me all hyped up, and it changed who I was.

01:49:06.000 It changed what I, again, that comedian that with the, you know, standing up there in the middle with the mic stand, and like, you were just that guy to me.

01:49:13.000 You were that guy that was just like, you didn't care.

01:49:15.000 And I was like, ah, I want to be that, you know? 0.97

01:49:17.000 I remember one time we were at one of the improvs, the Bray Improv, or one of those improvs, and one of the fucking guys who's working the sound booth goes, what did you do to him? 0.96

01:49:28.000 I go, that's him! 0.98

01:49:29.000 That's him!

01:49:30.000 That's the real shimmy. 1.00

01:49:31.000 That's when it comes out. 0.90

01:49:32.000 Because you were just going nuts. 0.95

01:49:34.000 You were just going nuts. 0.73

01:49:35.000 You're like, dude, he goes so crazy when you're here. 0.77

01:49:37.000 That's him.

01:49:38.000 I need you in my life that way.

01:49:40.000 I need you to do that with everything.

01:49:42.000 I'm telling you, that's what I miss when I'm on my side.

01:49:45.000 Because, again, my own captain, I go off the rails.

01:49:47.000 I'll start overthinking things.

01:49:49.000 You know, that happens with fighters, too.

01:49:52.000 I'm sure.

01:49:53.000 Fighters decide that they're the boss, and then they don't have a guy like, That happened with Tyson.

01:49:59.000 Tyson was with Customato.

01:50:00.000 Customato died, and now he doesn't have a boss anymore.

01:50:03.000 He doesn't have the alpha.

01:50:05.000 He doesn't have this wise person who's overseeing all of it going, no, no, no, not this.

01:50:13.000 This.

01:50:13.000 And this is why.

01:50:15.000 This is why you have to approach it this way.

01:50:17.000 Like, yeah, this is why.

01:50:18.000 Sometimes people need a coach.

01:50:20.000 You need someone around you who knows exactly what's going on.

01:50:24.000 I don't care if it's you.

01:50:26.000 I need it.

01:50:27.000 If I'm writing a movie or doing whatever it is, I need people to say, hey, you've got to see it.

01:50:33.000 Because you're in your own head.

01:50:34.000 Everything has that same flavor.

01:50:36.000 I'm always like, ah, we're writing the same type of movies and this and that.

01:50:38.000 Because I'm controlling everything.

01:50:40.000 And sometimes I've got to relinquish that control and say, let someone else say, believe me, trust them.

01:50:44.000 Just go with it.

01:50:45.000 And I struggle with that.

01:50:46.000 Because I'm like, no, no, no, no.

01:50:47.000 And that's the key to it.

01:50:49.000 And I can see that in the fight game.

01:50:50.000 It must be like...

01:50:51.000 You know, where I take over and I know better and I got to switch camps and do all this stuff.

01:50:56.000 Especially if you're the champ.

01:50:57.000 Right. 0.97

01:50:58.000 If you're beating everybody and you think like, I'm fucking everybody up because I'm the best. 0.96

01:51:01.000 And then your manager is like looking at Clever Lang and Rocky. 0.96

01:51:05.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:05.000 He's like, no, this fucking guy is doing the real thing. 1.00

01:51:08.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:08.000 You better watch out. 1.00

01:51:09.000 You don't see this coming.

01:51:10.000 You don't see this coming.

01:51:11.000 Yeah.

01:51:12.000 And you have to have that guy around you.

01:51:13.000 Otherwise, you'll be delusional and you wind up like with a flashlight in your face.

01:51:16.000 That's right.

01:51:17.000 That's right.

01:51:18.000 And, you know, they're wheeling you around in a stretcher.

01:51:21.000 That's the thing with success.

01:51:24.000 And also the part of success is to get successful, you have to get really uncomfortable.

01:51:29.000 And once you get to a certain level of comfort, you're like, I don't want to be uncomfortable anymore.

01:51:35.000 I did all that, but that's over.

01:51:37.000 I'm done.

01:51:38.000 But the only way you keep getting better is to be uncomfortable.

01:51:42.000 That's it.

01:51:42.000 That's the ice bath every morning.

01:51:43.000 That's literally going, you don't have to do this anymore.

01:51:46.000 It's like, but why?

01:51:47.000 So you've got to build up the boss in your head.

01:51:49.000 Like, I made my own coach, because I realized there's not going to be enough coaches around me.

01:51:53.000 Like, I had coaches when I was doing martial arts.

01:51:55.000 I mean, there was a giant factor for me that I went to that Jehun Kim Taekwondo Institute in Boston, which was like one of the best...

01:52:03.000 Best gyms in the country.

01:52:04.000 Just dumb luck happened to be there at the right time.

01:52:08.000 But once I realized, you're not going to have a coach everywhere, you've got to be able to coach yourself.

01:52:13.000 I write out my training routines all myself.

01:52:16.000 I write them out.

01:52:17.000 So I know what I have to do.

01:52:19.000 And I just do it.

01:52:20.000 I found an old journal when I was literally...

01:52:24.000 I did karate for...

01:52:27.000 For, I don't know how many years it was, when I got to like a brown belt, you know, when I was in high school and stuff like that, or a little, just as, I guess it was ending then, maybe it was just going into college.

01:52:38.000 I was by a brown belt by then.

01:52:39.000 But I never felt that we had a guy named Al Wilson in our school who was a boxer.

01:52:46.000 And I was learning all the karate stuff, and I was really good in, you know, I had these, you know, the moves and stuff like that, and the katas down like crazy, crank them out, like rip them, you know, like really powerful.

01:52:57.000 And this guy was just different.

01:52:59.000 You know, it was boxing, you know, like I didn't have that.

01:53:01.000 So I never had that confidence even then.

01:53:02.000 Like, as a brown belt, I was like, I need to know something.

01:53:05.000 Like, I got to learn something.

01:53:06.000 And it really, you know...

01:53:09.000 Boxing's an eye-opener.

01:53:10.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:53:10.000 And wrestling.

01:53:11.000 You know, it's like all these things.

01:53:12.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:53:13.000 As far as that stuff, it's like...

01:53:14.000 Those are two big eye-openers, especially if you think that you know how to fight because you know how to do karate, and then you box with somebody, and you're like, oh, this is a totally different thing.

01:53:23.000 I've got to learn this now.

01:53:24.000 Learn it like I learned everything else.

01:53:26.000 I remember when you took me to Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu, I remember probably the first class, a guy grabbed me and held me just against his chest, and my face was in his gi, and I couldn't breathe.

01:53:39.000 I didn't know what to do, so I reached up, and I was grabbing his throat, which you're not...

01:53:43.000 But I was panicking.

01:53:44.000 And he was like, whoa, you know, whatever.

01:53:46.000 I was like, whoa, I didn't know.

01:53:47.000 I just played it off.

01:53:48.000 But I was gone.

01:53:49.000 I was gone.

01:53:50.000 I was going to tap from a chest hold.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, people do that in black belt tournaments.

01:53:54.000 I do it all the time.

01:53:55.000 It's a smother choke.

01:53:56.000 Yeah, I can't.

01:53:57.000 I can't do that.

01:53:58.000 People smother tap people. 0.77

01:53:59.000 Like, big guys would get on top of people and tuck them in between their pecs and smother them.

01:54:02.000 Oh, my God.

01:54:03.000 Yeah, I'm out.

01:54:04.000 I feel like I'm drowning.

01:54:05.000 Yeah, you are kind of drowning.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:07.000 It's scary.

01:54:08.000 It is scary.

01:54:09.000 But if you can learn defense of that...

01:54:11.000 Yeah.

01:54:11.000 Then you're always gonna be safe.

01:54:13.000 That's the thing.

01:54:14.000 It's like if you can just figure out how to defend yourself in those positions just to stay alive, and it's the worst feeling in the world, to be trapped under someone for five minutes while they're trying to kill you.

01:54:25.000 But if you can develop enough confidence that you're safe no matter what, that's what Hicks and Gracie always said.

01:54:31.000 He goes, I am always safe.

01:54:33.000 He goes, always defense.

01:54:35.000 My defense is perfect.

01:54:37.000 I am always safe.

01:54:38.000 So he never worried about being tapped, because he was always putting himself in these terrible positions.

01:54:43.000 He would have black belts start on his back with a fully locked in rear naked choke.

01:54:48.000 That's how you have them start.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, then you're not afraid of anything.

01:54:52.000 You've been there before.

01:54:53.000 You've got defense.

01:54:54.000 Yes.

01:54:54.000 Yeah, you've got your defense.

01:54:56.000 If I applied what I think about all day long to actually practicing it, I don't, but I think about it all the time.

01:55:03.000 You gotta build that coach up in your brain.

01:55:04.000 Dude, I would literally look up things and I go, I would watch everything and be like, I saw Eddie Bravo once say, or I heard that he said, I won't even teach anybody until you can do the butterfly, you can get it to your knees to the mat.

01:55:19.000 No, he said you can't get a black belt.

01:55:21.000 Oh, is that what it was?

01:55:22.000 Yeah.

01:55:22.000 You can't get a black belt until you get your knees to the mat.

01:55:24.000 Oh, okay.

01:55:25.000 I thought he was like, oh, I took it that way and I'm like, I started pushing, but then I faded.

01:55:30.000 He gave up on that, by the way.

01:55:32.000 Oh, did he?

01:55:33.000 Yeah, he gave up on that because he realized you could be a black belt without putting your knees to the mat.

01:55:36.000 Yeah, because I can't move.

01:55:37.000 It's just Eddie has a very specific style and it's super effective and it's very dangerous.

01:55:44.000 He's one of the most dangerous guys ever off his back.

01:55:47.000 And so he developed this style based on flexibility and movement.

01:55:52.000 And I could always do that because I was very lucky that I... You've always been flexible.

01:55:57.000 Because I did Taekwondo when I was really young and I always stretched.

01:55:59.000 So I didn't have any problem adopting his techniques, but a lot of people did just because of the dexterity issues.

01:56:06.000 I would think, like, because that was like the rubber guard and stuff like that, right?

01:56:10.000 And it was like, I was always a big guy, so I didn't know whether in my head I would go...

01:56:15.000 I shouldn't train this way because it's not my style of fighting or whatever, or should I be a big guy that can do that?

01:56:22.000 And I would go back and forth, and some trainers would be like, you shouldn't do this.

01:56:28.000 Don't waste your time doing that.

01:56:29.000 You'll never do that.

01:56:30.000 And I'm like, well, nothing scarier than a heavyweight that can move around and be like that.

01:56:35.000 A heavyweight that can fight off his back is one of the most dangerous guys.

01:56:38.000 I can't.

01:56:39.000 I get it.

01:56:39.000 That was always Noguera's big thing.

01:56:41.000 Because Minotauro, back in the day when Minotauro was the Pride Champion, Noguera was a lethal black belt off his back.

01:56:50.000 So these guys are so used to wrestling guys and taking them down.

01:56:53.000 But you get taken down, you're in Noguera's guard.

01:56:55.000 You're in hell.

01:56:56.000 Fabricio Verdum, he tapped all the greats from his back. 0.97

01:57:00.000 Fabricio Verdum, he tapped Fedor from his back.

01:57:04.000 I mean, come on, man.

01:57:06.000 Fedor, from his back.

01:57:08.000 He was the first guy to beat Fedor. 1.00

01:57:10.000 And everybody was like, holy shit. 0.97

01:57:12.000 And the way he did it with just pure jiu-jitsu, he got him an armbar triangle combination. 1.00

01:57:17.000 He's like, this is a checkmate, motherfucker. 0.99

01:57:19.000 Just slap that down. 1.00

01:57:22.000 Boy, Fabricio Verdun had the most wicked of all guards.

01:57:25.000 He tapped all the greats.

01:57:27.000 He tapped Cain Velasquez.

01:57:28.000 He tapped Minotauro.

01:57:30.000 He tapped Fedor.

01:57:31.000 He tapped some of the greatest of all time.

01:57:34.000 That guy tapped.

01:57:36.000 Off his back!

01:57:37.000 That's crazy.

01:57:38.000 That's what I have to...

01:57:39.000 I literally...

01:57:40.000 I have to get back to it.

01:57:41.000 I really got to get back to it because that fear of those positions that you just don't want to ever get in.

01:57:48.000 It's the suffocation.

01:57:49.000 It's this and that.

01:57:50.000 And every time I start up again, I hate the warm-ups.

01:57:54.000 The warm-ups.

01:57:54.000 I'm like dizzy.

01:57:55.000 I'm doing these crab walks and stuff.

01:57:57.000 I'm already out.

01:57:59.000 But it's like, I have a guy that Weidman hooked me up with.

01:58:03.000 You know, I was going to go to Sarah, because Sarah's out there.

01:58:06.000 It's great jiu-jitsu.

01:58:08.000 But for some reason, Weidman goes, go to this guy.

01:58:11.000 He'll be great with you.

01:58:13.000 His name is Derek Mangy.

01:58:14.000 He does monster jiu-jitsu, but it was like an hour away from me.

01:58:17.000 But he's the greatest guy.

01:58:19.000 And he comes to my house, and he trains me and stuff, and he's just a beast.

01:58:21.000 But it's like, I've got to get past, literally out of my head, and get in these positions.

01:58:27.000 But when I train with him, He's so big like I get on his back or whatever it is and he just gets up it's like an apartment building just coming up like I can't even hold you know I don't and it's so Frustrating to me and he's flexible and big and he can move around and it's like I This is where I don't finish I quit I'm like I get frustrated and I don't you know honestly the thing about Training with someone who's really good the problem is you're never gonna get good enough to tap them because they're always gonna be ahead of you You really should train with people that are

01:58:57.000 okay That's the best way to train.

01:59:00.000 The best way to get really good at jujitsu, I've always said, and Eddie Bravo used to always say this, is strangle blue belts.

01:59:05.000 Really?

01:59:05.000 Find people that can resist a little bit, but they're not really on your level, and just drill on them.

01:59:09.000 Right.

01:59:10.000 You drill on them, and that way, then when you get to brown belts and you get to black belts, you're sharp, and you have all these reps of finishing the technique.

01:59:19.000 Reps.

01:59:19.000 All these reps of closing the technique on.

01:59:22.000 That's the other thing.

01:59:22.000 Do you recommend just drilling, drilling, drilling?

01:59:25.000 100%.

01:59:25.000 Drilling is almost more important than anything.

01:59:27.000 Really?

01:59:28.000 Really.

01:59:28.000 Yeah, because it solidifies the move in your head.

01:59:30.000 When I got really good, the best I got at jujitsu when I went from blue belt to purple belt was when I was training with Eddie, and we were drilling all the time.

01:59:39.000 We were drilling multiple times a week.

01:59:41.000 Right.

01:59:41.000 So we'd get together, and for an hour and a half, we would just drill.

01:59:45.000 And it sucks. 0.98

01:59:46.000 You don't want to. 0.99

01:59:47.000 You want to roll.

01:59:47.000 Rolling is fun.

01:59:48.000 Sparring is fun.

01:59:50.000 It's like you're playing a video game.

01:59:51.000 But if you can just force yourself to do the work and do a lot of drilling, your technique will get really sharp.

01:59:58.000 All the best guys drill.

02:00:00.000 They drill all the time.

02:00:01.000 They do either live drills, where you all start from a certain position, or they'll do drills where they'll go over a specific path.

02:00:08.000 Like, Eddie was big on going over paths.

02:00:10.000 Like, I want you to do this.

02:00:13.000 You pass the guard, he goes to block, you set this up, and then you counter with that.

02:00:17.000 And then we would drill that very position.

02:00:20.000 So then when that would come up in training, when you would go to pass and someone would block and then you would take their back, it's like, oh, it's all synced in to your nervous system.

02:00:30.000 And that enables you to, when you're in a position, to think two or three moves ahead.

02:00:35.000 You're not going to get that if you're training with some big black belt. 1.00

02:00:38.000 You're not going to get that.

02:00:39.000 You're never going to get to the point where you could do that to him.

02:00:42.000 It's not going to happen.

02:00:43.000 It's not him.

02:00:44.000 No, it's not him.

02:00:45.000 It's me.

02:00:46.000 But even you, even if he lets you do it, it's not the same.

02:00:50.000 You've got to be able to do it to someone who's not letting you do it and someone who you don't know.

02:00:55.000 Well, that's the key.

02:00:56.000 Once you start learning someone and you're kind of...

02:00:58.000 Yeah, you don't want to know them.

02:00:59.000 You want to be able to solve a human puzzle. 0.99

02:01:02.000 Some person is pulling on your shit and he's kind of freaking out a little bit. 1.00

02:01:05.000 Not only that, it's the fear of that. 1.00

02:01:07.000 I hate that.

02:01:08.000 I don't like that.

02:01:09.000 You love it.

02:01:10.000 I hate going to a class where I don't know everybody.

02:01:12.000 First of all, I hate the gi. 0.98

02:01:13.000 I hate everything. 0.99

02:01:14.000 I suffocate in that thing.

02:01:15.000 That thing is cement hard.

02:01:17.000 Go no gi. 1.00

02:01:18.000 Because then I feel like you're not learning the techniques.

02:01:20.000 You are!

02:01:21.000 You are?

02:01:22.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:01:23.000 I have a black belt in gi and I have a black belt in no gi.

02:01:26.000 I can do both of them.

02:01:27.000 I've done both of them.

02:01:28.000 I trained both of them at the same time.

02:01:29.000 But one of the things that I did from learning from Eddie was, because I was training so much no gi, but I was also training gi, I would go in and do the gi, but I wouldn't use it.

02:01:38.000 I would let them use it on me.

02:01:40.000 But I was just concentrating on over hooks and under hooks and I was concentrating on all the same grips that I would use so that I would never be deficient.

02:01:48.000 Because if you get used to grabbing collars and sleeves and you get used to adjusting people with butterfly sweeps and stuff like that based on grips, the problem with that is all those grips go away when everyone's slippery and it's just bare chest.

02:02:00.000 So I was just all about clinching and I was all about a tight game.

02:02:05.000 It was all about learning what Eddie's moves were.

02:02:08.000 And Eddie's moves were all over hooks and under hooks. 0.93

02:02:10.000 It was all wrestling based.

02:02:11.000 And it was all because of Jean-Jacques Machado.

02:02:14.000 So our instructor Jean-Jacques, his left hand, he only has a thumb.

02:02:18.000 I know.

02:02:19.000 He trained me a couple days in Encino.

02:02:21.000 He came to my house.

02:02:22.000 He was such a great guy.

02:02:23.000 He's the best.

02:02:24.000 He really is.

02:02:24.000 He's the best.

02:02:28.000 Where they take the gi belt or whatever it is and underneath and wrap it around this thing.

02:02:33.000 It's like, I always go, it's not that it can't work or whatever, but I always look for things that are applicable.

02:02:38.000 Like, you know, I want to be able to, you know, and it's like, to me, I can't do that.

02:02:43.000 I can't, you know.

02:02:44.000 But I always heard that for you to get better at no gi, you want to train gi because it's like taking a bat and, you know, swinging with the donut on it. 0.98

02:02:53.000 Nah, that doesn't make any sense.

02:02:55.000 Okay.

02:02:55.000 No.

02:02:56.000 No, you want to train.

02:02:57.000 It's like to get really good at racquetball, you need to play tennis.

02:03:00.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:03:01.000 Well, I got four massive geese if you want to use them for something.

02:03:04.000 You could throw them over your couch or whatever you feel like doing because I'm happy to get rid of them.

02:03:08.000 Listen, there's nothing wrong with the geese.

02:03:10.000 The geese is still great.

02:03:11.000 And what the geese does do is it forces you to be very technical because you can't muscle out of things.

02:03:15.000 You can't just pull out of stuff because you're trapped.

02:03:18.000 So you have to learn how to use the proper defense and also never let you get yourself into a position where someone's completely cinched up on you.

02:03:26.000 Like if someone has, like there's certain chokes, like a clock choke.

02:03:30.000 Like if they reach into your collar and they grab ahold of your collar like this and then they get this arm wrapped around here, you're in a bad spot because then I'm going to spin.

02:03:40.000 Oh, gosh.

02:03:42.000 And it's like a tourniquet, right?

02:03:43.000 And it's terrible.

02:03:45.000 It's a tourniquet.

02:03:45.000 Oh, it's death.

02:03:46.000 It's death.

02:03:48.000 It's such a horrible choke to get stuck in.

02:03:50.000 So you just gotta...

02:03:51.000 In those situations, the gi can be very...

02:03:53.000 Like, if you're in a street fight with a guy who's got a winter jacket on, some guy's got a leather jacket on, and he grabs you, and you grab ahold of that collar, and you pull him to the side, And you fish that arm underneath his shoulder, that's a dead man.

02:04:09.000 Right.

02:04:09.000 Like, he didn't even know he's dead.

02:04:10.000 Yeah.

02:04:11.000 He's a dead man.

02:04:12.000 Yeah.

02:04:12.000 Like, if you get a hold of someone's leather jacket, and then you get your arm under there, and you get this like this, you're like, oh, son, you're going for a gator roll.

02:04:22.000 Right, right, right.

02:04:24.000 I love that. 1.00

02:04:25.000 Yeah, so this, like, a judo player fighting someone with a winter jacket, you're fucked. 1.00

02:04:31.000 That guy's going to hit you with the world. 1.00

02:04:33.000 He's going to spike you on your fucking head on the concrete. 1.00

02:04:36.000 And you're not even going to be able to stop it. 1.00

02:04:38.000 You're not going to be able to do a goddamn thing. 0.98

02:04:39.000 So it's good to learn the gi. 0.99

02:04:41.000 Because most people are wearing clothes.

02:04:43.000 Yeah, I'm just going to go out shirtless from now on.

02:04:45.000 Like, just not even wear anything.

02:04:47.000 You could easily ezekiel choke someone with a hoodie.

02:04:49.000 Right. 0.99

02:04:49.000 Because you get on top of someone with a hoodie, and you get all up in here, and you fucking... 0.99

02:04:54.000 This is a different level. 0.96

02:04:56.000 This is not what I'm, literally, I need to.

02:04:58.000 Yeah.

02:05:00.000 I've got to start.

02:05:01.000 I really do.

02:05:03.000 I've got to do something because it's like, it's...

02:05:05.000 There's nothing wrong with the gi.

02:05:06.000 The gi's great.

02:05:07.000 The gi's great.

02:05:08.000 I still love the gi.

02:05:09.000 My problem is grip strength.

02:05:11.000 It does slow the game down for older guys, too.

02:05:13.000 That's the one thing.

02:05:14.000 That's why they keep saying, you don't want to go no-gi, but it'll be a lot quicker. 0.94

02:05:18.000 But I like that.

02:05:20.000 As long as it's a guy in my level, it does slow the game down.

02:05:22.000 But also, to me, I just feel suffocating.

02:05:24.000 Everybody's always grabbing me, and I'm like, I'm out.

02:05:27.000 I'm tapping like crazy.

02:05:30.000 Plus, my grip strength.

02:05:31.000 I ripped.

02:05:33.000 First of all, tore this bicep.

02:05:35.000 Did you get it repaired?

02:05:37.000 This one happened about five or six years ago.

02:05:43.000 I hired a personal trainer and she came to my house. 1.00

02:05:49.000 I didn't even know.

02:05:49.000 She was almost like the CrossFit person.

02:05:53.000 And she was like, we're going to work on strength.

02:05:54.000 And I had never deadlifted or did anything.

02:05:56.000 And I started doing deadlifts.

02:05:58.000 And she was like, I didn't even literally know how to do it.

02:06:00.000 She was like showing me.

02:06:01.000 And she was getting so excited.

02:06:02.000 She goes, that's pretty good weight.

02:06:03.000 Can we bump it up a little bit?

02:06:04.000 And it was like 135, 225, 275. And then she goes, can we go a little bit more?

02:06:10.000 She put 315 on it.

02:06:12.000 And then I go, and I got it.

02:06:13.000 And she was like, can we go 405, like whatever.

02:06:16.000 She bumped up and I'm going, and I'm starting to feel like a little tired.

02:06:19.000 And I'm like, And I go, I don't know.

02:06:21.000 I don't know if we should do this.

02:06:22.000 I don't know if this is getting me.

02:06:23.000 But she was so happy.

02:06:24.000 She's like, this is really good.

02:06:25.000 It was like a personal bet.

02:06:26.000 And I go, I've never done it.

02:06:28.000 I did 405. And I felt a little something.

02:06:31.000 I got it.

02:06:32.000 I just got it.

02:06:32.000 And she was like, this is amazing.

02:06:34.000 And then she said, can we go like 450?

02:06:37.000 Oh no.

02:06:38.000 Yes.

02:06:39.000 And I went pop, right away.

02:06:42.000 I got it up for a little bit and I just went, I felt, I go, oh my gosh.

02:06:47.000 But it didn't, it was such a bad, it didn't tear away from the bone.

02:06:51.000 It just, there was like, it looked like it was like chopped meat and it ripped a hole in the middle of it.

02:06:56.000 Oh.

02:06:57.000 So it was weird.

02:06:58.000 It was like, the guy looked at it and he goes, we can't even do anything with this.

02:07:01.000 So it's like, you just gotta let it heal.

02:07:03.000 Does it still have a hole?

02:07:04.000 Like when you flex?

02:07:05.000 Well, you can't see this one as much.

02:07:07.000 You can see a little divot.

02:07:08.000 You see a little divot here.

02:07:09.000 But then, just recently, I did a movie with Joey Diaz.

02:07:12.000 I did that movie.

02:07:13.000 I did a movie with him.

02:07:14.000 And there was a lot of fighting in it.

02:07:16.000 And I'm fight training with the guys.

02:07:19.000 And we're rehearsing all the choreography and going through the moves.

02:07:23.000 And we did it like a lot.

02:07:24.000 And It was the end of the time.

02:07:26.000 He's like, do you want to run it one more time?

02:07:28.000 And I was like, alright.

02:07:29.000 He was, just run it slow.

02:07:31.000 Just to get it, because I was getting tired.

02:07:32.000 And I had to go and double leg the guy, or whatever it was.

02:07:36.000 And I went in to double leg him, and it was very slow.

02:07:39.000 And he moved to the side, and he went this way, and it stretched my arm, and it went...

02:07:43.000 I go, and they go, oh, that looked awesome, awesome, guys.

02:07:46.000 And I go, no, no, no, no.

02:07:47.000 I literally have it recorded.

02:07:48.000 I go, something's wrong.

02:07:50.000 I go, something's wrong.

02:07:50.000 And this one, this one's bad.

02:07:53.000 It's nasty.

02:07:55.000 It's the Matt Serra one.

02:07:56.000 It rolled up on me, and I got it checked out, and they go, it's completely torn.

02:08:03.000 And, you know, the guy was doing PT on me.

02:08:08.000 This guy, Amato, he's awesome.

02:08:10.000 Johnny Amato, he's an awesome guy to do PT. And he was telling me, he's like, well, the good thing about it is it's torn completely because it's not, you know, you're going to be able to do everything with it.

02:08:19.000 And I had to go into the movie, so they go, do you want to get it fixed?

02:08:22.000 You should get it fixed.

02:08:23.000 And he said, you know, it was like one of those things where it's like, you don't lose, you don't gain that much strength.

02:08:27.000 Believe it or not, the bicep doesn't do that much.

02:08:29.000 The bicep itself It's kind of like a turning a key, and it's like that's where it'll be affected a lot, which is, you know, that's actually not that bad.

02:08:36.000 So did you get it fixed or no?

02:08:37.000 I didn't.

02:08:38.000 I couldn't because I had to go into the movie and shoot the movie.

02:08:40.000 Oh, wow.

02:08:40.000 Because if you do that, you get it fixed.

02:08:43.000 The rehab is, like, it's long, you know?

02:08:47.000 So I go, I can't do it.

02:08:49.000 So they said, I go, can I get it done after the movie?

02:08:51.000 And they go, you can't because it's a window of the muscle.

02:08:54.000 Like, if you don't attach it right away, it won't take.

02:08:57.000 Yeah.

02:08:57.000 So I did it.

02:08:58.000 I didn't do it.

02:08:59.000 And it's bad.

02:09:01.000 And it still hurts.

02:09:03.000 It cramps every time.

02:09:04.000 I don't feel like I can do anything.

02:09:05.000 I've lost so much strength on this thing now.

02:09:07.000 You wish you had gotten the surgery?

02:09:09.000 I do.

02:09:10.000 I do. 0.99

02:09:11.000 That sucks. 0.94

02:09:11.000 I always wondered about Matt's arm. 0.94

02:09:13.000 He's strong as hell.

02:09:14.000 It doesn't affect him, though.

02:09:16.000 I think he says it's fine.

02:09:18.000 A bunch of guys get that one.

02:09:19.000 That's a real common one.

02:09:20.000 It's common with a lot of times when people throw a punch.

02:09:24.000 Like if the punch gets blocked, the bicep will pop and curl up.

02:09:28.000 I've seen that a couple of times.

02:09:29.000 Yeah.

02:09:30.000 This is ugly and it's bad.

02:09:32.000 Remember Kyle Parisian had that with his hamstring?

02:09:34.000 Yeah.

02:09:34.000 Oh my gosh, did he?

02:09:35.000 Yeah, he had a hole in his hamstring. 0.99

02:09:37.000 His hamstring just ripped apart and it shriveled up and it always fucked with him like the rest of his career. 1.00

02:09:43.000 Oh, it's in your head. 0.99

02:09:44.000 Well, also his one leg just was not as strong.

02:09:46.000 Right.

02:09:46.000 So his one leg was like always compromised.

02:09:48.000 He should have had surgery on it like right from the beginning.

02:09:52.000 Yeah.

02:09:53.000 Yeah, but guys try to rehab stuff.

02:09:55.000 There's like that fine window, that small window between fixing something and not being able to ever fix it.

02:10:02.000 Like TJ Dillashaw went through that with his shoulders.

02:10:04.000 He tried to just rehab his shoulders and his shoulders wind up becoming chronic and now they ruined his career.

02:10:09.000 Right.

02:10:10.000 Yeah, any kind of injury to a joint, I always say get the surgery if you can.

02:10:15.000 If it's that bad, get the surgery.

02:10:17.000 But also, it depends on what it is.

02:10:19.000 Like if it's a bicep, yeah, get the surgery.

02:10:22.000 But there's certain things like, hmm, stem cells might be able to fix that better than surgery.

02:10:26.000 So it's like knowing where to go and who to talk to and what doctors have actually gone through this before.

02:10:32.000 But you can't do that now.

02:10:33.000 With what?

02:10:34.000 With stem cell or anything?

02:10:35.000 No.

02:10:36.000 With the bicep?

02:10:36.000 No.

02:10:37.000 Once it's shriveled up, it's shriveled up.

02:10:39.000 Yeah.

02:10:39.000 You have a very small window.

02:10:40.000 I think a bicep, the window's just a couple weeks.

02:10:43.000 Yeah.

02:10:43.000 You get it repaired like really quickly.

02:10:46.000 I should have done it because I really... 0.93

02:10:48.000 That sucks. 0.95

02:10:49.000 It does. 0.99

02:10:50.000 That's a bummer.

02:10:51.000 It's...

02:10:52.000 You know, slowing me down for sure.

02:10:54.000 I tore my MCL getting on stage once.

02:10:58.000 What?

02:10:58.000 Yes, at Stubbs.

02:11:00.000 It's Stubbs in Texas.

02:11:02.000 I was walking up the stage.

02:11:04.000 Stubbs is this outdoor amphitheater, and as you're turning the corner, it's these concrete stairs.

02:11:10.000 But they're spaced differently.

02:11:12.000 And so I was like, I was turning my recorder on on my phone and walking up the stairs being called up to the stage and I misstepped and twisted my foot and it popped my knee bad.

02:11:25.000 Where when I went on stage my leg was shaking like I was nervous.

02:11:28.000 You didn't stop?

02:11:29.000 I was in agony.

02:11:30.000 I was in agony.

02:11:31.000 Yeah, I just did my set.

02:11:32.000 Oh my god.

02:11:33.000 Yeah, I just power through it.

02:11:34.000 But I was like, my leg is shaking so bad.

02:11:36.000 It looks like I'm so nervous.

02:11:37.000 Everyone can see this.

02:11:39.000 But it was just pain.

02:11:40.000 I should have addressed it.

02:11:41.000 I should have said, I just blew my knee out.

02:11:45.000 I should have said that so people know why my knee is shaking.

02:11:48.000 Yeah.

02:11:49.000 Because otherwise I was like, God, how do I stop my knee from shaking?

02:11:51.000 Like, this guy's nervous. 0.98

02:11:52.000 Yeah, it shook for like the first fuck ten minutes at least. 0.97

02:11:55.000 Did you sit down? 0.98

02:11:56.000 Nope.

02:11:57.000 Nope. 1.00

02:11:58.000 You're nuts. 1.00

02:11:59.000 I did my set. 1.00

02:11:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:00.000 It still went great. 0.68

02:12:01.000 The show was fun, but then my knee was fucked up for a year after that.

02:12:04.000 I had to get a bunch of stem cells.

02:12:06.000 I got stem cells in it like three times before it finally got to the point where it doesn't bother me anymore.

02:12:10.000 How is it now?

02:12:11.000 It's great.

02:12:11.000 Yeah, now it's great.

02:12:12.000 Now I can kick the bag.

02:12:13.000 No problems.

02:12:13.000 Wow.

02:12:14.000 Yeah, I did a lot of knee-over-toe stuff, too.

02:12:17.000 That Ben Patrick program.

02:12:20.000 Yeah, that's great stuff.

02:12:21.000 It's a big game-changer.

02:12:23.000 I've strengthened my legs quite a bit more since I had that injury.

02:12:28.000 The Nordic curls and, you know, the slant board squats, goblet squats. 0.98

02:12:33.000 I got that sled, too, on the wheels, whatever it's called.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, the torque sled.

02:12:36.000 Yes, it's just...

02:12:38.000 I just push it light and then just walk back with it slow, you know, and just keep going, digging.

02:12:42.000 Yeah.

02:12:42.000 I feel it in my legs, and it's great.

02:12:44.000 The walking back is huge.

02:12:46.000 That's such a crazy way to strengthen your legs, to pull a sled backwards.

02:12:51.000 Such a good way to strengthen your knees.

02:12:53.000 Right.

02:12:54.000 Yeah, it just keeps everything strong and firm.

02:12:57.000 And as long as you stay flexible as well, and you're strong, you have stability.

02:13:02.000 You have range of motion, but you also have stability.

02:13:06.000 That's giant.

02:13:07.000 That's key.

02:13:08.000 Yeah.

02:13:10.000 I'm doing this movie now where it's me, and it's an action movie.

02:13:15.000 I'm literally leaving tonight to Vancouver.

02:13:20.000 It's like a crazy action movie, and I wanted to get in shape for it, and it didn't happen.

02:13:25.000 So I'm like, I don't know.

02:13:27.000 I'm next to this beast, too.

02:13:29.000 Alan Richen from The Reacher.

02:13:31.000 Oh, that guy?

02:13:31.000 For The Reacher?

02:13:32.000 That guy's huge.

02:13:33.000 That guy's huge.

02:13:34.000 Oh my gosh.

02:13:35.000 I was like, I gotta train to get, you know, ready for it.

02:13:37.000 And I'm like, nothing happened.

02:13:38.000 And now I'm like, oh boy, we're going into this thing.

02:13:40.000 That guy is the perfect guy for that show.

02:13:43.000 Because, you know, they did that movie with Tom Cruise.

02:13:45.000 And it was like, the character was never that small, right?

02:13:48.000 No, in the book, the character was this monster.

02:13:51.000 The character in the book was Alan Richman.

02:13:53.000 Yeah, Richson.

02:13:54.000 He's a beast. 0.81

02:13:57.000 Richson.

02:13:57.000 Yeah, really good.

02:13:58.000 Look at this dude! 1.00

02:13:59.000 He's ridiculous. 1.00

02:14:00.000 He's amazing. 1.00

02:14:01.000 He's a house.

02:14:02.000 That guy's a house.

02:14:03.000 Great dude, too.

02:14:04.000 Yeah, he seems like a really nice guy.

02:14:05.000 Unbelievable.

02:14:06.000 I've seen him in interviews.

02:14:07.000 He seems like a really nice guy, but he's the perfect guy for that series.

02:14:10.000 Yeah.

02:14:11.000 They just, you know, Tom Cruise is the blockbuster boy, so they're like, let's just do it with Tom Cruise.

02:14:15.000 They're like, but he's 5'9".

02:14:17.000 This guy's got to be a gorilla. 1.00

02:14:19.000 He's got to be a fucking linebacker. 1.00

02:14:22.000 He's a linebacker with a genius brain. 1.00

02:14:24.000 He can kill people. 0.99

02:14:25.000 This guy's a- Yeah. 1.00

02:14:27.000 He's perfect for it.

02:14:28.000 He is.

02:14:29.000 So you have to do an action movie with him.

02:14:31.000 Yeah.

02:14:32.000 Oh, no.

02:14:33.000 And just- Just start fasting.

02:14:35.000 I just don't- How much time do you have before the camera rolls?

02:14:40.000 I just suck it out. 0.60

02:14:41.000 I mean, it's crazy, man. 0.98

02:14:44.000 It's like fighting that age, but it's like, you're right.

02:14:46.000 Look at how you're doing it, man.

02:14:47.000 It's like such a difference how you are with what you do and what you've implemented.

02:14:52.000 We're a different species, you and I. I'm telling you.

02:14:54.000 I just stayed on it.

02:14:55.000 I just never let off the gas.

02:14:57.000 That's the key.

02:14:58.000 But also being careful, like knowing what's What's up and what's not.

02:15:03.000 Knowing not to try to work through injuries but to heal them and making sure they don't happen anymore by increasing range of motion and strengthening things and just making sure your whole system is strong.

02:15:15.000 I do a lot of non-sexy exercises like Turkish get-ups and things like that.

02:15:21.000 Things that strengthen the whole body.

02:15:23.000 Windmills.

02:15:24.000 Those are the things that I like.

02:15:26.000 No one likes to do them.

02:15:27.000 When I walk around the gym and do a couple of things, It's like that's where I have to change my mindset to go go into the places where it where does it hurt when you bend where it is you know the ankle strength foot you know all this stuff to get you know comfortable in that and it's like that's the stuff that's so important Turkish get-ups I hate everybody hates those I don't like to do it I don't you know there's no like bench press is cool you know like you bang out 10 reps like yeah we did it Turkish get-ups you never feel like you're done it's

02:15:58.000 always no exactly oh It's hard, and everything's working.

02:16:03.000 Your legs are working, your core's working.

02:16:05.000 Do you do a specific sets, or are you more like, on your own, do you go, I'm just going to work this area, and I'm going to do as many as, I just want to drill it, or do you have a set?

02:16:15.000 No, I have sets.

02:16:16.000 You do?

02:16:17.000 Yeah, I'll do my warm-up.

02:16:21.000 My warm-up after the cold plunge is always 100 push-ups and 100 bodyweight squats, so that's the warm-up, so that gets you going.

02:16:26.000 That gets you warm after you've done the cold so that now you're heated up again.

02:16:31.000 And then I do my...

02:16:32.000 Wait a second, 100 push-ups?

02:16:33.000 And 100 bodyweight squats.

02:16:37.000 That's more than my week, Chris.

02:16:39.000 This is your warm-up?

02:16:40.000 That's the warm-up every day.

02:16:42.000 Yeah, that's 15 minutes.

02:16:44.000 So 15 minutes it takes to do 100 push-ups and 100 bodyweight squats.

02:16:47.000 I do those.

02:16:48.000 And then I do swings.

02:16:51.000 So depending upon whether or not I'm feeling good or whether I need more warm-up, I either go with 50 or 70 pounds.

02:16:59.000 So if I go to 70 pounds, that means I'm ready to go.

02:17:02.000 So I do three sets of 10 swings with each arm.

02:17:06.000 With 70 pounds, and then I do clean press, three sets of 10 with each arm, clean press, and then I do three sets of windmills with each arm, and then I do three sets of renegade rows.

02:17:20.000 You know renegade rows where you're doing a push-up on the kettlebells?

02:17:23.000 So you've got the kettlebells, two on the ground, same distance part of your shoulders, and you do a push-up, and then in the lock push-up position you do a row with one side, boom!

02:17:33.000 And then a row with the other side, boom. 0.88

02:17:35.000 Back down for a push-up, back up. 1.00

02:17:37.000 Row with one side, boom. 0.99

02:17:39.000 So your core is totally engaged the entire time.

02:17:42.000 You're in a plank the entire time.

02:17:44.000 And the entire time, you're either going down to do a push-up, you lock up, and then you're stabilizing yourself as you pull the one-tittle bell up.

02:17:52.000 That's core, that's everything.

02:17:53.000 Boom, put that down, yeah.

02:17:54.000 Boom. 0.52

02:17:55.000 And you do that with 70 pounds, three sets of 10 on each side, and you get worn the fuck out.

02:18:03.000 So you're doing 20 reps.

02:18:05.000 Every time I'm doing this, I'm doing 10 reps with each hand.

02:18:08.000 So I'm doing that with 70 pounds.

02:18:11.000 And so I do three sets of those.

02:18:12.000 And then once I get done with that, then I usually either do the sled or I'll do something else.

02:18:18.000 I'll do rounds on the bag.

02:18:20.000 I'll do something else.

02:18:21.000 And is that timed and all that stuff too?

02:18:23.000 No.

02:18:24.000 I like to give myself time in between sets because I want to be fully recovered before I get into the set again.

02:18:31.000 I don't believe in...

02:18:33.000 I follow this Russian principle, this strong first principle, which is The most important thing is how much weight are you pushing and for how many reps.

02:18:45.000 And it doesn't matter if those reps come over 5 minutes or they come over 20 minutes.

02:18:49.000 And it's probably better if they come over 20 minutes than over 5 minutes.

02:18:53.000 Because you have a lot of time.

02:18:55.000 I'll take 5, maybe even 10 minutes in between sets.

02:18:58.000 Yeah.

02:18:58.000 So I'm fully ready to go.

02:19:01.000 And then when I'm doing the clean press with 70 pounds and I'm doing 10 reps each side, I'm no problem doing that.

02:19:07.000 I'm not fatigued.

02:19:09.000 Like, I'm fatigued.

02:19:10.000 It's difficult, but it's not where I'm, like, at the point of failure, ever.

02:19:14.000 If my point of failure was 10 reps, I would do 5. Right.

02:19:18.000 And then I would wait a long time, and then I'd do another 5. That makes sense.

02:19:21.000 Yeah, so I'm getting a lot of reps.

02:19:24.000 You're never getting to that point where you're pushing yourself to the point where you can hurt yourself?

02:19:29.000 Never.

02:19:30.000 Never.

02:19:31.000 That's all I do.

02:19:32.000 I don't lift anything heavier than 70 pounds.

02:19:34.000 You don't need to, right?

02:19:36.000 You don't need to.

02:19:37.000 People think you do.

02:19:38.000 I mean, it's one thing if you're a football player.

02:19:40.000 Exactly.

02:19:41.000 If you're a power athlete and you need to do cleans and squats and deadlifts, that's great.

02:19:45.000 But I don't need to do that.

02:19:46.000 I just keep my body strong.

02:19:48.000 And then I do my endurance work.

02:19:50.000 My endurance work is either sled pulling or it's Tabatas on the air bike or it's rounds on the back.

02:19:56.000 And then I get in the sauna.

02:19:58.000 And the saunas, see, go in there right when you're tired.

02:20:02.000 And you just step in that 195 degrees.

02:20:05.000 195?

02:20:06.000 Sitting there for 20 minutes.

02:20:08.000 What's your cold plunge at?

02:20:09.000 34 degrees.

02:20:12.000 I would have a heart attack instantly.

02:20:16.000 I would be gone.

02:20:17.000 I have mine ready.

02:20:19.000 I have one.

02:20:20.000 It was 52 degrees.

02:20:22.000 It was 52. I was shaking, man.

02:20:26.000 I was in there for 15 minutes, though.

02:20:30.000 I would do that.

02:20:30.000 You don't need to go that long.

02:20:32.000 You don't need to, but you can do that if it's 50. Yeah.

02:20:35.000 I mean, it's probably giving you the same result if you do 15 minutes at 50 as you're doing 3 minutes at 34. That's crazy.

02:20:43.000 It's probably giving you the same result or similar result.

02:20:45.000 The whole idea is that you freak your body out and it produces cold shock proteins.

02:20:49.000 And how does that compare to the chamber one where you get the air?

02:20:55.000 Is it just like a...

02:20:56.000 Does that get you cold?

02:20:56.000 You know the one where you just...

02:20:57.000 Yeah.

02:20:57.000 They're both brutal.

02:20:59.000 They're both brutal.

02:21:00.000 I think...

02:21:00.000 I've never done that.

02:21:01.000 The cold water is a different animal, though.

02:21:04.000 It gets in your bones more, right?

02:21:06.000 Yeah, you feel colder.

02:21:07.000 Like, when you'd get out of the cryotherapy machine, when you get out of there, within a couple of minutes, you're like, woo!

02:21:16.000 You're okay. 0.96

02:21:16.000 You get out of that cold water, like, for a fucking half an hour, you're like, Jesus Christ! 0.96

02:21:21.000 But that was the way I would warm up. 0.99

02:21:23.000 I would just go right into the bodyweight squats and the push-ups.

02:21:27.000 So that was my way of heating my body back up after the cold.

02:21:30.000 But don't your joints feel just frozen at that point?

02:21:32.000 No, no, you're alright.

02:21:33.000 You're alright.

02:21:34.000 I mean, it's body weight, so it's not much weight, so you're just kind of pushing.

02:21:38.000 You could easily do 20 push-ups.

02:21:40.000 You just do the 20 push-ups, take a break, do the 20 body weight squats, take a break, heart rate drops back down, next set.

02:21:48.000 20 body weight squats, 20 push-ups, next set.

02:21:50.000 Do it.

02:21:51.000 Do it five times, you've got 100. And then by that time, I'm warm.

02:21:55.000 And so then I'll do whatever the other workout is.

02:21:58.000 Maybe I'll jump rope.

02:22:00.000 It depends on what I'm doing that day.

02:22:01.000 But I always write it out.

02:22:03.000 You do? 0.98

02:22:03.000 Yeah, because if you write it out, you don't give yourself any room for fuckery. 0.98

02:22:06.000 Because you know this is what you have to do. 0.89

02:22:08.000 It's all written out.

02:22:09.000 Like, that's the boss.

02:22:11.000 The boss gets in there and writes it all out before the The ego steps in.

02:22:16.000 And they're like, let's eat.

02:22:18.000 I'm hungry.

02:22:18.000 Once it's there, it's there.

02:22:19.000 You get a better workout if you have some fruit first.

02:22:21.000 Let's go have some fruit.

02:22:22.000 You get a better workout if you eat.

02:22:24.000 You know what?

02:22:25.000 I have a window between 3 and 4.30.

02:22:27.000 I've got a really good workout then.

02:22:28.000 And then right now, I'll just go watch TV. That's me.

02:22:32.000 Yeah, that's everybody.

02:22:33.000 But you just got to have that boss in your brain has to be in control.

02:22:38.000 And once you get it subdued like that much, it's not that hard, right?

02:22:42.000 The whole thing is momentum. 0.96

02:22:46.000 Everybody that has ever had a good day, you have a good day where you really get your shit together, you start feeling good about yourself. 0.99

02:22:51.000 And you go, the key is just carry that forward and keep going and don't let yourself fuck off. 0.98

02:22:56.000 And if you do give yourself a day off, recognize that just like an alcoholic, It starts drinking again. 0.99

02:23:03.000 This could be a slippery slope.

02:23:05.000 So if you give yourself that day off, be real aware of what you're doing.

02:23:10.000 I self-sabotage.

02:23:12.000 I'll start Monday again or I'll start tomorrow.

02:23:14.000 That hope of starting the next day, I have it so much.

02:23:18.000 I remember when I was training and Weidman said this to me.

02:23:21.000 He goes, When you, you know, you're training and you, you know, get a flat, you know, you don't get out and fix the flat.

02:23:30.000 You get out and pop the other three tires.

02:23:32.000 Like, you literally do.

02:23:32.000 And I do.

02:23:33.000 It's like, once I go off, I go, ah, all right, I'm off.

02:23:36.000 I'll start, you know, Monday.

02:23:37.000 Yeah, I do.

02:23:38.000 I crush it.

02:23:39.000 I do.

02:23:41.000 Oh, man, I would love to eat with you.

02:23:43.000 You know that.

02:23:43.000 But I'm saying, like, you're right.

02:23:46.000 And you can eat and do it in the right way.

02:23:48.000 And I'm sure you enjoy food.

02:23:51.000 It's just you've got to...

02:23:52.000 The boss has to be fully in control before you get a day off.

02:23:56.000 Yes.

02:23:56.000 And it is almost like sobriety in that way.

02:23:59.000 You have to get so much momentum that you're fully confident that you could take a day off and just eat ice cream.

02:24:06.000 And there's nothing wrong with that if you do have a hold of it.

02:24:09.000 Even if that's got to be tempered, though.

02:24:12.000 I can't do a day off where I'm just crushing myself.

02:24:16.000 There's no coming back. 1.00

02:24:17.000 The next day, you'll feel like shit. 1.00

02:24:19.000 100%. 1.00

02:24:19.000 But the thing is, you have... 1.00

02:24:22.000 Gone on schedule and gotten in shape before.

02:24:25.000 You have done it.

02:24:26.000 So you know you can do it.

02:24:28.000 So it's maybe even more frustrating than someone who's never done it.

02:24:32.000 That's right.

02:24:32.000 Because you have, like, dropped 60 pounds.

02:24:34.000 You have gotten in shape again.

02:24:36.000 And I remember when you were training mitts with Della Grotte.

02:24:38.000 I was watching you hit the pounds. 0.99

02:24:40.000 Like, when you got in shape for Here Comes the Boom, you got in fucking shape. 0.99

02:24:44.000 And you were training hard. 0.99

02:24:46.000 And I was watching some of those sessions.

02:24:48.000 It's like, so I know you can get to that spot.

02:24:50.000 Right.

02:24:51.000 It's just like maintaining.

02:24:53.000 I know.

02:24:53.000 That's the thing, is maintaining.

02:24:54.000 And now as I go, it's like God takes the little thing away from me, the bicep pull now.

02:24:59.000 Yeah, another new reason.

02:25:00.000 It's a little, yeah, it's like I gotta fight it, man.

02:25:03.000 And like I said, I'm teetering.

02:25:04.000 Teetering between that, you know, I gotta go back, I gotta go back.

02:25:07.000 And you're right, man.

02:25:09.000 Yeah, you just gotta decide.

02:25:10.000 And one of the best ways to decide is to write things down.

02:25:13.000 It's so easy to just keep a thought in your head and you don't really give it the...

02:25:19.000 What it deserves.

02:25:20.000 You've got to write things down occasionally.

02:25:22.000 You have to really do.

02:25:23.000 And I write down my workouts.

02:25:25.000 I have a big whiteboard in my gym, too.

02:25:27.000 Just put it up there.

02:25:28.000 Write it up.

02:25:29.000 Just write it down before you do it.

02:25:30.000 And give yourself a realistic goal.

02:25:32.000 Don't be nutty at one point where the next day you're going to be a dead man.

02:25:35.000 Give yourself a realistic goal.

02:25:37.000 He goes, get up and go for a walk.

02:25:39.000 Just go for a walk for 40 minutes.

02:25:41.000 You know, whatever.

02:25:42.000 And really what happens is when I start walking, I'll start moving around.

02:25:45.000 I feel good.

02:25:46.000 I go, you know, whatever.

02:25:47.000 And I start adding more, you know.

02:25:48.000 And it's like, my goodness.

02:25:50.000 Then I start, you know, wanting to throw, I'll get the egg weights and I'll just start throwing with those and just, I love it.

02:25:55.000 I really, you know, it's...

02:25:57.000 It's something that is really addictive in a good way that, like, you can, you know, once you start doing it, and it's a little bit...

02:26:03.000 It's the pressure of you don't have to do so much.

02:26:05.000 Just do this.

02:26:06.000 Yep.

02:26:06.000 And then...

02:26:07.000 Yeah, if your pressure is, okay, now you have to lift weights for an hour and then go to a 90-minute yoga class and then run a marathon, like, fuck that. 1.00

02:26:15.000 Right. 0.99

02:26:15.000 It needs to be very realistic. 0.99

02:26:17.000 Like, you know, we're going to start off today.

02:26:19.000 You're going to do 20 push-ups, 20 bodyweight squats, 10 cleans, 10 presses...

02:26:26.000 You know, a couple of chin-ups and then you're done.

02:26:28.000 That's a wrap.

02:26:29.000 That's 20 minutes.

02:26:30.000 20 minutes and never be exhausted.

02:26:32.000 And then take, you know, the next day you're going to do something different but equally light.

02:26:36.000 And you do that for a couple of weeks.

02:26:38.000 And if you write it all out, it shouldn't take you more than even 20 minutes to work out.

02:26:42.000 And you can get through 20 minutes.

02:26:43.000 Just write it all out.

02:26:45.000 Make sure you follow it.

02:26:46.000 And one of the best things for me is I have a TV in the gym and I'll put fights on.

02:26:52.000 So I'll be watching fights, getting inspired, watching fights, and then you go through your routine and you're good.

02:26:58.000 And as long as you write it out, and if you write it out and you know, I know I wrote this down on paper, I have to do what this says.

02:27:05.000 You're committing to it.

02:27:05.000 Yeah, you have to do it.

02:27:06.000 It's great.

02:27:07.000 Because if you just hold it in your head, I'm going to go work out.

02:27:09.000 What am I going to do? 1.00

02:27:10.000 Oh, my fucking curls. 1.00

02:27:11.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:27:12.000 Maybe we'll do some bench press.

02:27:14.000 You need a structure so you can give it to yourself.

02:27:16.000 You're right.

02:27:17.000 That's awesome, man.

02:27:19.000 I'll do it in this documentary, and we'll come back, and I'm going to show you that I'm stuck here.

02:27:23.000 Next time you're here, you'll be looking for houses.

02:27:26.000 I promise.

02:27:26.000 We'll work out together.

02:27:27.000 I love it.

02:27:27.000 All right.

02:27:28.000 My man.

02:27:29.000 It's good to see you, brother.

02:27:30.000 You're the best.

02:27:30.000 I love you, man.

02:27:31.000 You're the greatest.

02:27:31.000 Thank you for doing everything you're doing, man.

02:27:33.000 My pleasure.

02:27:34.000 You're awesome.

02:27:35.000 It's a lot of fun.

02:27:36.000 It's great to see you out there killing it. 0.88

02:27:37.000 I love it. 0.99

02:27:38.000 All right.

02:27:38.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 08, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2116 - Kevin James

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