The Joe Rogan Experience - March 14, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2119 - James Lindsay


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 1 minute

Words per Minute

181.15714

Word Count

32,877

Sentence Count

2,811

Misogynist Sentences

44

Hate Speech Sentences

108


Summary

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian and podcaster talks about the growing number of Chinese military-aged men sneaking across the border into the United States, and the implications for the border patrol agents tasked with catching them. He also talks about why it s a good thing that Neil Young is back on Spotify, and why the government should be worried about it, too. Also, the government is trying to make immigrants pay their fair share of taxes, and it s going to take a long time to figure out how to do it, but maybe it s not as bad as you think it is. Joe also discusses the best way to deal with the migrant crisis, and how technology can be a game changer in the way we deal with it. And of course, there s a special guest who is not a guest on the show, and that's not a bad thing at all. Thanks to our sponsor, Caff Monster Energy Drink Co. for sponsoring the show! and thanks also to our patron, for supporting the show. . Joe's new book is out now, and is out on all of the social medias, if you search for it, you won't want to miss it! If you like what you hear about, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, too! or wherever else you're listening to podcasts, and we'll give you a shoutout! Thank you for listening and sharing it out! - we really appreciate it. Thank you, Joe Rogans podcast! xox - Tom and Joe's podcast, Tom's Day Show, by night, all day, by Joe's Day, by Night, by all day. - Joe's Podcast, by Norm and Night's Day by Night - by Night podcast, by Mr. Rogan Podcast, by Night Podcast by Night and Night, All day, All Day, Allday, by Gorms, by Nando's Podcasts by Night - by Norm's Podcast by Norm Rogan , All Day All Day by Joe, all day! , by Night's Podcast Thanks, Joe's American Masculine podcast by Night: by Tom's American masculinity shirt, by Tom and Night and Day, and much more! by Nicks Podcast, and all day by Nellie's American Men's Day Podcast by Noodles


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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Showing my day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
00:00:12.000 How are you, sir?
00:00:14.000 I'm good, Joe.
00:00:14.000 This is your American masculinity shirt.
00:00:16.000 We both, we didn't even coordinate, we're both wearing American flags.
00:00:19.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it's that time, right?
00:00:22.000 It's time to start saying, you know what, I'm an American, and that's cool.
00:00:26.000 Before you say that, I mean...
00:00:30.000 If you don't, we're on the way to saying I'm Chinese.
00:00:34.000 Yeah.
00:00:36.000 Well, how's your Mandarin?
00:00:38.000 Yeah.
00:00:39.000 Might be a good time to learn it as they're all sneaking in across the border.
00:00:42.000 That's one of the more disturbing things.
00:00:43.000 When I talked to Brett Weinstein, he was talking about how many Chinese military-aged men are sneaking across the border.
00:00:50.000 And you want to...
00:00:51.000 Do you want to look at it the best way possible?
00:00:53.000 You say, well, it's probably a bunch of people that are looking for work, and it's probably a bunch of people that are, you know, there's not as many Chinese women, and they're looking for a girlfriend or something, and why do they have military haircuts?
00:01:04.000 Well, they're probably, you know, just like a young man thing.
00:01:08.000 Yeah.
00:01:08.000 I mean, I've heard more specifically, I can't vet it, so I can't prove it.
00:01:12.000 So, like, there's the grain of salt up front, but I have heard that even Chinese special forces, if I was a special forces of a...
00:01:43.000 No, it's not sneaking across.
00:01:47.000 It's, as they are saying, full-scale invasion.
00:01:50.000 Well, it's just weird.
00:01:52.000 It's weird that we've just kind of gone, well, well...
00:01:57.000 We've always...
00:01:58.000 I mean, there was always customs.
00:02:00.000 There's always...
00:02:00.000 You land.
00:02:01.000 They check out your stuff.
00:02:02.000 They look at your paperwork.
00:02:03.000 They go through your passport.
00:02:05.000 They ask you questions.
00:02:06.000 Why are you in this country?
00:02:08.000 You know?
00:02:09.000 And it's always been that way.
00:02:12.000 Like, I was watching this video with...
00:02:14.000 You know who Deadmau5 is?
00:02:15.000 Yeah.
00:02:16.000 Deadmau5 is the musician.
00:02:18.000 The DJ. He was trying to come into the country to visit his friend.
00:02:24.000 And they said, no, you're coming into work.
00:02:27.000 He's like, no, no, I'm coming because he's famous.
00:02:29.000 He works.
00:02:30.000 He's like, no, I get paperwork.
00:02:33.000 And they kicked him out of the country for like seven years.
00:02:35.000 Whoa.
00:02:37.000 He should have just walked through.
00:02:38.000 Yeah, right.
00:02:39.000 He should have been, no, I'm just here to do whatever I want.
00:02:41.000 But what a bizarre thing.
00:02:42.000 If you're undocumented, if you are poor, and if you're going to do cheap labor, walk right in.
00:02:49.000 But if you're a highly skilled, world-famous DJ, and you want to go visit a friend, we're concerned that you might actually be working there.
00:02:59.000 Yeah, or like a super pro tennis player who's going to go play in the US Open, but no, maybe not, right?
00:03:05.000 Well, that was the vax.
00:03:07.000 That was the vax.
00:03:08.000 By the way, Neil Young came back to Spotify.
00:03:12.000 Congratulations, Neil.
00:03:13.000 Yeah, well, that's good news.
00:03:15.000 And his excuse was, he said that because all of the platforms are now allowing my disinformation, so that his just go back on Spotify too.
00:03:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:25.000 Great to know you've got some ethics.
00:03:26.000 Yeah, well, everybody's doing it these days, disinformation.
00:03:31.000 But yeah, I mean, there's a strategy.
00:03:33.000 The reason the border is the way it is, well, there's a strategy.
00:03:36.000 I don't know who's playing the strategy for sure, but The Cloward-Piven strategy, I'm sure you've heard of that.
00:03:41.000 Somebody's got to have talked to you about the Cloward-Piven.
00:03:43.000 Can you explain it?
00:03:44.000 Yeah, it's pretty simple.
00:03:45.000 The idea is that you take advantage of a system in the way that it's set up so that you overwhelm it.
00:03:51.000 In particular, in this case, you're going to overwhelm social services.
00:03:55.000 You're going to overwhelm border enforcement.
00:03:58.000 You're going to overwhelm whatever they're doing in the cities.
00:04:00.000 It's like tens of thousands of dollars per taxpayer or whatever per year going to Dealing what they're calling the migrant crisis.
00:04:07.000 So you try to overwhelm the system in order to basically collapse it so that you can create a crisis and the crisis creates the excuse to bring in new policies.
00:04:15.000 Oh, well, maybe what we need is, what do they call it, e-verify or something?
00:04:19.000 So we need a digital system where we can track who everybody is, but then they get their digital system and you're off to the races.
00:04:25.000 But yeah, this is an old strategy, well-documented strategy.
00:04:29.000 Who do you think is implementing this strategy and what are the conversations, do you think?
00:04:33.000 Well, it's not possible to deny that the Biden administration is implementing it because, look, they tried to fight Texas on securing its own border to protect its own citizens.
00:04:44.000 That blew up, what was it, end of January?
00:04:45.000 Is that when it all blew up?
00:04:47.000 Very recently, yeah.
00:04:48.000 Yeah, it was pretty recent.
00:04:49.000 And so certainly they are.
00:04:52.000 We know historically that the Open Society Foundation or the Soros Foundation Which is Open Society, has been funding that and has been helping out.
00:05:01.000 We know that the UN is involved now.
00:05:03.000 Like, these aren't mysteries.
00:05:05.000 The UN is coming and doing, you know, aid and coaching them.
00:05:08.000 And somebody's organizing not just – it's like it's not just a bunch of people from South America and China or wherever else or Mexicans wandering up to the border and, like, just, hey, I'm here.
00:05:19.000 There's, like, routes.
00:05:21.000 There are – it's caravans.
00:05:23.000 There's help.
00:05:24.000 Right.
00:05:24.000 It's coordinated with a lot of money behind it.
00:05:27.000 And we know that those organizations, the United Nations particularly, is helping this.
00:05:34.000 So big players.
00:05:36.000 So what do you think the strategy is?
00:05:38.000 The strategy is to implement some sort of a worldwide verification system and the way to get these freedom-loving shitheads in America on board is to turn America into a crime-ridden place of Immigrants coming from very hostile places where their life has been very hard and they've been in prison or whatever and they're escaping that and they're coming to America and then They're off to the races.
00:06:05.000 Yeah, well, I mean, that's a plausible motive, right?
00:06:10.000 Let's overwhelm this system because these freedom-loving shitheads here in America, which I think I am for sure.
00:06:15.000 Look at your shirt.
00:06:16.000 Look at me, yeah.
00:06:17.000 But no, I really am.
00:06:19.000 I'm still at the end of the day.
00:06:20.000 I just kind of want to be left alone to live my life.
00:06:23.000 You do your thing.
00:06:24.000 I'll do my thing.
00:06:25.000 If you understand, there are two lines.
00:06:27.000 Let's be real clear.
00:06:29.000 Before I say, do whatever you want, as long as you don't hurt anybody, it's not clear enough.
00:06:33.000 There are two lines.
00:06:33.000 Do you understand the difference between public and private, and do you understand the difference between adult and child?
00:06:38.000 If you understand those two lines, and you're on the right side of those, I don't care what you do in private, as long as it's with adults.
00:06:44.000 I don't care what you do.
00:06:45.000 Leave me alone.
00:06:45.000 I'll leave you alone.
00:06:46.000 You're cool.
00:06:47.000 I'm cool.
00:06:47.000 Like, let's not interfere with one another.
00:06:51.000 That's what real freedom is.
00:06:52.000 But we don't want a system, you know, tying us, like the Chinese social credit system's real, right?
00:06:58.000 This isn't some conspiracy out in the world.
00:07:00.000 Whether or not it's coming to the United States is a question, whether Americans would want it is a question, but it's in China.
00:07:06.000 It's real in China.
00:07:08.000 It's been there for a decade.
00:07:11.000 I've been to China.
00:07:12.000 I've experienced, you know, life there.
00:07:15.000 And the fact of the matter is that This would – the worldwide verification system would set something like that up.
00:07:22.000 You can also overwhelm the US system so that all of a sudden it has to start taking some kind of an emergency measure to deal with whatever problems.
00:07:30.000 We can talk about the crisis here in the United States.
00:07:33.000 But holy crap, look at what's going on in the UK. I was over there right after – right at the end of October.
00:07:40.000 So on October 7th, we all know what happened in Israel.
00:07:43.000 And then all these huge protests broke out like pro-Palestine.
00:07:47.000 So I had some places to go.
00:07:48.000 I don't really give a shit about my surroundings all that much.
00:07:51.000 I'm going to do what I want to do as long as I'm not like...
00:07:53.000 So I'm walking against the grain up this, whatever they said, like 150,000 or something like that people waving the Palestinian flag walking down the street the other way on their march in London because I had to get where I was going.
00:08:05.000 Aaron Ross Powell Yeah.
00:08:28.000 Belgium is a big one.
00:08:29.000 I was riding with this guy.
00:08:31.000 I spoke at the EU Parliament this time last year.
00:08:34.000 So I'm riding with this dude and it turns out he's like the European James Bond.
00:08:37.000 He's like driving me from the airport and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, we've got to deal with this problem.
00:08:42.000 I do all the security stuff or whatever.
00:08:44.000 And he's talking to me about how you can get arrested if one of them starts a fight with you and you do anything about it.
00:08:50.000 It's racism and you'll end up hauled before a tribunal.
00:08:53.000 That's happened to him.
00:08:54.000 And it's like, we've got to start figuring out a way to get them out.
00:08:57.000 But it's like, how do you get them out?
00:08:58.000 And I don't mean everybody.
00:08:59.000 I mean the people who are causing criminal problems, the people who aren't trying to follow Belgian law or UK law or whatever else.
00:09:06.000 And they're going on TV saying this.
00:09:09.000 Like, you know, there's that imam or whatever the other day that famously went on and was like, in London, it was like, you know, we're going to take this country.
00:09:18.000 Like, we're not going to follow your rules.
00:09:19.000 We're not going to follow your law.
00:09:20.000 I don't remember what he said, so that's not exactly right.
00:09:23.000 A lot of information passes between these ears these days, but the fact of the matter is the question becomes when you have a crisis at that scale, what are your options for fixing it?
00:09:33.000 And I think that that's part of the Cloward Piven strategy is how do you end up fixing a problem that's at that scale?
00:09:40.000 I think they're doing the same thing.
00:09:41.000 To be honest with you, it sounds all crazy conspiratorial, but I think this is why I've been pedal to the metal with the transition stuff, the trans stuff.
00:09:48.000 If you end up with a million kids, You've got a million kids like that really are on the medical system.
00:09:53.000 What do you do with them?
00:09:54.000 What do you do with a million kids?
00:09:56.000 And then their parents and their aunts and uncles, everybody, the whole system has to start bending around a reality that was kind of manufactured and you can get some major changes.
00:10:05.000 But it seems like this, if you want to go full tinfoil hat, there has to be a plan So that means there has to be conversations.
00:10:16.000 There has to be a bunch of people that agree to this.
00:10:18.000 Like, who are those people?
00:10:19.000 And how do those conversations take place?
00:10:21.000 Well, I mean, we do.
00:10:23.000 Who are the people?
00:10:24.000 Well, again, I just point back, the Biden administration has to have had conversations.
00:10:28.000 They petitioned the Supreme Court to stop Texas from enforcing its border.
00:10:34.000 I would love to know what those conversations look like.
00:10:37.000 Whoever is funding it at some point had to sit down at a table, probably not exactly like this.
00:10:42.000 It might not have as much cool stuff on it, but they sat down and they signed some contracts and said this is where the money is going to go.
00:10:49.000 Do you think it could be that it's the federal government putting power over state governments to make sure that state governments don't say, we can do what we want?
00:10:59.000 Well, I mean that's the fight between Texas and the federal government.
00:11:03.000 So for sure that's part of it.
00:11:04.000 But I think there's the United Nations that's kicking this too, that's pushing this.
00:11:09.000 I mean so a lot of people don't understand – and I'm skipping around.
00:11:12.000 The United Nations sees itself as a kind of global entity, 193 member states, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:20.000 17 Sustainable Development Goals to Transform Our World, all that.
00:11:23.000 But I'm going to skip over and talk about like Soros for a second because we know that the Open Society Foundation has pushed a lot of this kind of stuff too.
00:11:30.000 And it's a lot of people don't understand Soros or what is the Open Society that he's talking about.
00:11:36.000 Well, that's based off of – a lot of people don't know.
00:11:38.000 Soros' mentor was the famous Karl Popper and Karl Popper wrote a book in 1945 called Open Society and Its Enemies.
00:11:46.000 And so the open society is what we've been taking for granted basically in the post-World War II era and it's what we want.
00:11:52.000 That's where – it's a free society.
00:11:54.000 It's a high-trust society.
00:11:55.000 It's a – people can do what they want.
00:11:57.000 They don't have to worry about whether they're going to get carjacked all the time or whatever else.
00:12:02.000 And Soros is like, well, you could have that in the nation or you could have that where there's kind of one open society in the globe.
00:12:09.000 So a lot of people start thinking that he's working with China, but he doesn't like China because China doesn't have an open society.
00:12:16.000 That's not what he wants.
00:12:16.000 But the idea that there's this line that comes across the south of Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and California, where arbitrarily, so to speak, The United States says this is our land and Mexicans have to stay out.
00:12:30.000 He would be against that.
00:12:31.000 That should be like an open Pan-American kind of mega-continent kind of in his mind with one society.
00:12:38.000 So what do you have to do?
00:12:39.000 Well, you have to dissolve a border.
00:12:41.000 And how can you dissolve a border?
00:12:42.000 Well, make so many people be able to cross that border through changes legally and through flooding the system so that The border doesn't really mean anything anymore because borders are simple, right?
00:12:54.000 What is a border?
00:12:55.000 It's a line we draw on a map and we say laws on this side of this border mean this and laws on the other side of this border are different, right?
00:13:01.000 The US has law.
00:13:02.000 Mexico has law.
00:13:04.000 And this line is where we have US law versus Mexican law on either – one step across and now you're in another set of laws.
00:13:10.000 That's what they mean.
00:13:11.000 That's what borders are as a political entity.
00:13:15.000 But if you can water that down so it's like, well – There's so many people coming across, like, is there really a border?
00:13:24.000 That's the idea, because Soros' idea is a global open society.
00:13:29.000 Everything in the whole globe, maybe, I don't know if it's that extreme, but maybe you don't need passports.
00:13:35.000 It's like the EU, but for the whole world.
00:13:39.000 Wouldn't a better option be America, but for the whole world?
00:13:42.000 I would say so, because you can look at Europe and see that the EU's not doing really well.
00:13:47.000 Well, we're not sneaking into Mexico.
00:13:50.000 No.
00:13:50.000 In fact, you can just drive into Mexico.
00:13:52.000 Mariana Van Zeller, who does that fantastic show, Trafficked.
00:13:56.000 Yeah.
00:13:56.000 You ever watch that show?
00:13:57.000 No.
00:13:58.000 That lady is a gangster.
00:14:00.000 She goes to the craziest places.
00:14:03.000 She goes to Columbia and watches them make cocaine and then goes through the jungle with them when they have it on their backs.
00:14:07.000 So she did one in Los Angeles where it turns out that cops, dirty cops in LA, Are confiscating weapons and then selling them to the cartel.
00:14:18.000 And they just drive into Mexico with them, because nobody checks you when you go into Mexico.
00:14:22.000 So these guys have trunkfuls of AKs, and they're just driving into Mexico, and she goes with them.
00:14:29.000 Holy crap.
00:14:30.000 The whole episode is documenting this.
00:14:32.000 And that's...
00:14:34.000 See, we're not sneaking into there.
00:14:37.000 You could just go right into there.
00:14:38.000 They're sneaking into here.
00:14:41.000 With the best-case scenario, is it even possible to have this everywhere?
00:14:46.000 Well, that's what we wanted, right?
00:14:48.000 And that was the whole idea of spreading democracy.
00:14:49.000 But it doesn't totally seem like it worked.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, no, it doesn't seem like it worked.
00:14:55.000 And there are some big reasons for that.
00:14:58.000 Well, power is the big reason.
00:14:59.000 Power is a big one.
00:15:00.000 And the fact is when you start getting divorced too far away from Mexican issues being ruled over in, say, Ottawa is a little bit difficult, right?
00:15:09.000 Right.
00:15:09.000 So there's that kind of stuff.
00:15:10.000 But there's also a huge geopolitical – I hate misusing that word.
00:15:14.000 I learned what the word geopolitical really means.
00:15:16.000 What does it really mean?
00:15:17.000 It means politics of earth things like waterways, oceans, dams.
00:15:22.000 Oh, interesting.
00:15:23.000 I've always used it wrong too.
00:15:24.000 I go totally autistic every time I say the word now and I'm like, damn it, I know it means something different because we all use it wrong, but I'm going to use it wrong anyway.
00:15:32.000 There's a geopolitical move from China right now called the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:15:36.000 And the Belt and Road Initiative, that's tied to the BRICS. The idea is that the entire global south with China as its head is going to become the new epicenter, the superpower of the world.
00:15:45.000 And it's going to be not just trade.
00:15:47.000 I mean, China doesn't exactly trade on fair terms.
00:15:50.000 They're going to go and basically exploit places.
00:15:52.000 We'll build you a nice airport.
00:15:54.000 We'll build you a nice port.
00:15:55.000 We'll build you some highways.
00:15:56.000 By the way, they all go straight to the mine and we're taking all of your lithium when we come in.
00:16:00.000 That's your deal.
00:16:01.000 And now you're economically dependent on us.
00:16:04.000 Pretty standard...
00:16:12.000 Yeah, I think.
00:16:32.000 And made it so that if you want to get in the Chinese market, so first they become the manufacturing base of the world, but then if you want to play in the Chinese market, what do you have to do?
00:16:40.000 Well, the CCP puts up a firewall, and if you don't play by the Chinese rules, you don't get into China.
00:16:46.000 So now Nike and all these big corporations and all these other, NBA, I named Nike because it just keeps coming to mind, but there's a huge consumer market over there that's We're good to go.
00:17:20.000 I think?
00:17:34.000 And then China, of course, BRICS just throws Russia into that mix, but otherwise that's who you're talking about.
00:17:38.000 And China is setting itself up to be the kind of global superpower or hegemon of that entire project.
00:17:46.000 And we're talking about the flow of trillions of dollars of – Goods and oil and energy and whatever every year.
00:17:55.000 So that's a huge thing to play with.
00:17:57.000 And it turns out I don't think – if we take Vivek's line, we got outfoxed in the deal.
00:18:01.000 So spreading democracy – there are lots of these cultural reasons.
00:18:05.000 Oh, they're not ready for democracy.
00:18:06.000 I don't know.
00:18:07.000 Maybe some places, maybe not some places.
00:18:10.000 But there are other pressures too that we've been asleep to.
00:18:13.000 We have not been paying attention as a country.
00:18:15.000 Maybe some of our like State Department people have been.
00:18:17.000 To China for the way that we should have been.
00:18:21.000 We should have been in the 80s and 90s like, oh no, China.
00:18:24.000 But we were like, oh yeah, China.
00:18:26.000 Okay, cool.
00:18:26.000 Make all of our cheap stuff for us.
00:18:29.000 Well, they've done an amazing thing in combining communism with capitalism.
00:18:34.000 That's right.
00:18:35.000 If you just have North Korea, you never develop a real superpower.
00:18:38.000 Thank you.
00:18:39.000 Thank you, Joe.
00:18:40.000 I beat this drum and I get called crazy all the time because what I'm trying to tell people is that communism is what's happening to this country.
00:18:47.000 OK, but it doesn't look like communism because it's like, how is Nike communist?
00:18:52.000 Right.
00:18:52.000 And I'm picking on Nike.
00:18:53.000 How's Boeing?
00:18:54.000 Let's pick on Boeing instead.
00:18:55.000 How's Boeing communist?
00:18:57.000 You know, all these...
00:18:58.000 How's Disney communist, right?
00:18:59.000 They're huge megacorporations.
00:19:02.000 What did Google just lose over its stupid AI? $90 billion or something?
00:19:08.000 It's something insane.
00:19:09.000 Like, I didn't even know they had that much money to lose.
00:19:11.000 And it's like, holy crap, you know, in stockholder value or whatever, or shareholder value.
00:19:15.000 I think it was only $9 billion.
00:19:16.000 Was it?
00:19:16.000 I thought that was Bud Light.
00:19:18.000 That was $9 billion.
00:19:18.000 No, no.
00:19:19.000 Bud Light was $27 billion.
00:19:20.000 But look, We're haggling over 11, 12-figure...
00:19:26.000 I know, right?
00:19:27.000 Yeah.
00:19:27.000 And so it's like at least 10-figure numbers of money.
00:19:32.000 Elon kind of rolls in that department, but nobody else does.
00:19:36.000 So anyways...
00:19:38.000 What – where was I going with this?
00:19:40.000 Because this is huge.
00:19:40.000 Oh, the communists – how in the world are these huge things communist, right?
00:19:44.000 So communism didn't work, right?
00:19:47.000 Soviet Union sucked.
00:19:48.000 North Korea sucked.
00:19:50.000 Cuba sucks.
00:19:51.000 Like I'm sure it's like geographically beautiful, but we know those places are dysfunctional as hell.
00:19:56.000 We can go to the Eastern Bloc.
00:19:57.000 They're still devastated in a lot of ways.
00:19:59.000 They're still not all the way together.
00:20:01.000 Like communism didn't work.
00:20:02.000 But if we think of like what Marx did – Leading up to, say, 1917 when Lenin kind of took over as communism 1.0, that never really even got off the ground.
00:20:11.000 Then Lenin got it off the ground and you get the Soviet model, which is – Soviet just means committee by the way if you didn't know that.
00:20:17.000 It's like a ruling council or committee.
00:20:20.000 So the Soviet model takes over with what they called Marxism-Leninism and that worked kind of.
00:20:26.000 It worked – they still had it in China until Mao died.
00:20:29.000 They had it in Soviet Union until, what, 89, 90, 91, something like that when it fell.
00:20:35.000 But what happened was when Mao died, like the Soviet Union wasn't doing great.
00:20:39.000 It was starting to fall apart.
00:20:40.000 A new model got picked up and nobody's – we talk about Mao Zedong sometimes and I would love to talk to you all day about Mao.
00:20:45.000 That's my new research project.
00:20:47.000 But we don't talk about his successor.
00:20:49.000 His successor was Deng Xiaoping and this is where I actually disagree with Vivek about what I was just saying.
00:20:55.000 Deng Xiaoping had a saying that was, I don't care if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice.
00:21:01.000 And what he was talking about is I don't care if we use markets or we use a Soviet-style central committee to organize our society as long as China's economy comes back.
00:21:10.000 That's what he really meant.
00:21:11.000 And so Deng didn't come up with this new model to open the markets on his own.
00:21:16.000 We didn't go to China necessarily just to spread democracy.
00:21:19.000 We went to build China.
00:21:21.000 And who's we?
00:21:22.000 Well, let's name the names.
00:21:24.000 Who was in the meeting?
00:21:42.000 And the list of people were Henry Kissinger, Jibinu Brzezinski, allegedly T.H. Chan, David Rockefeller, and the sitting new emperor or whatever, CCP chairman of China, Deng Xiaoping.
00:21:56.000 And they cook up this plan to open Chinese markets.
00:22:00.000 And the plan was to maybe to spread democracy into America, but I suspect it was mostly to get really rich.
00:22:07.000 We open those markets, huge amount of money, giant multinational corporations are not tied to any geographical place, and they can get rich off their balls.
00:22:16.000 Now, some of these guys I think were also ideologically motivated.
00:22:19.000 The Rockefellers have funded communist crap all over the world for a very long time.
00:22:23.000 China was communist.
00:22:25.000 Deng Xiaoping said, I'm not opening the market.
00:22:28.000 I'm opening the market for socialism to make socialism productive.
00:22:32.000 And so they had a – I think there was more of a plan there than we take into account, which means Vivek gives – I need a tinfoil hat.
00:22:43.000 Vivek – Sees that our motivations in building China were necessarily good.
00:22:48.000 I think the motivations for building China were to create the pincher of a trap that's called Thucydides' trap in ancient kind of military strategy that they only escaped from would be to facilitate China's rise and decimate the West in order to avoid a nuclear-tipped World War III. And I think they knew what they were doing and were going to get rich on it.
00:23:08.000 You think by spreading democracy, their idea was to reinvigorate China's economy so that China becomes a threat?
00:23:16.000 Yeah.
00:23:17.000 Really?
00:23:18.000 Yeah, so is China get...
00:23:19.000 That is so 4D chess, the back pages of Reddit conspiracy.
00:23:24.000 Well, listen, we know that Klaus Schwab is...
00:23:27.000 If there are conspiracies, the James Bond villain...
00:23:31.000 Kind of not quite out of central casting.
00:23:33.000 See the photo we have of him in the bathroom?
00:23:35.000 Yeah.
00:23:35.000 With the Darth Vader outfit on?
00:23:37.000 With the spacesuit.
00:23:38.000 I'm the one who told you about his spacesuit.
00:23:39.000 We put it up on the screen.
00:23:40.000 Yes, yes.
00:23:41.000 Do you know who Klaus Schwab's mentor was?
00:23:44.000 I do, but I forgot.
00:23:45.000 Henry Kissinger.
00:23:46.000 That's right.
00:23:46.000 Who was in the same meeting.
00:23:48.000 This was a Harvard plot.
00:23:49.000 Well, his father was a Nazi.
00:23:53.000 I can't vet that for positive, sure, but that's what I have heard.
00:23:57.000 What is the truth of that?
00:24:00.000 Let's find out.
00:24:00.000 Who is Klaus Schwab's father?
00:24:02.000 At least his father did something.
00:24:05.000 Wasn't he the guy that was bringing the nuclear technology for the Nazis to South Africa or something like that?
00:24:11.000 Something crazy like that?
00:24:13.000 I mean, I know the story vaguely.
00:24:15.000 I knew it at one point.
00:24:16.000 Look, you can't help who your father is.
00:24:18.000 That's correct.
00:24:18.000 And, you know, unfortunately you get born and your dad's a Nazi.
00:24:21.000 I'm much less worried about Klaus being a Nazi than I am, like, he has an interview he gave where he's in his office and behind him up on the bookshelf is a bust of Lenin.
00:24:30.000 How the hell did that get there?
00:24:31.000 Like, other than Jordan Peterson, who puts one of those up?
00:24:34.000 Communists.
00:24:35.000 Jordan's studying them, and that's why he puts them up as a reminder.
00:24:38.000 No shade at Jordan, obviously.
00:24:41.000 But, like, Klaus has got some, you know, big ambitions, I think.
00:24:45.000 And his mentor was Kissinger.
00:24:46.000 Well, he's such a strange guy, the way he talks about it, too.
00:24:50.000 It's so right out of a movie.
00:24:52.000 Like, this cannot be real.
00:24:53.000 No one is really.
00:24:54.000 You will owe nothing, and you will be happy.
00:24:57.000 No.
00:24:57.000 With that accent and no one's freaking out?
00:24:59.000 I think that my favorite one is where he's having the conversation.
00:25:02.000 He's like, yes, in some years we will all have the chips on our brains.
00:25:05.000 And so you will be sitting there and I will be sitting here and we will be having a conversation.
00:25:11.000 There was a false...
00:25:14.000 Attribution?
00:25:15.000 So it's fake?
00:25:16.000 Inaccurate?
00:25:17.000 This is from a book I read.
00:25:19.000 Yeah, this is Reuters.
00:25:20.000 Founder, Klaus Schwab, Family Tree shared online.
00:25:24.000 So what is the inaccuracies?
00:25:25.000 He was related to the Rothschild family.
00:25:28.000 Oh, that was the fake one.
00:25:30.000 Oh, yeah, because his mother is, like, super secret.
00:25:32.000 Okay, so that's fake.
00:25:34.000 That's not true.
00:25:34.000 That's not true.
00:25:35.000 But the thing about his father...
00:25:37.000 That's what I was getting.
00:25:37.000 I mean, this is explaining what his father was, too.
00:25:39.000 His mother was Jewish.
00:25:41.000 And his father did what?
00:25:43.000 Don't open that can.
00:25:44.000 Well, I mean, that's the whole thing with Soros, though.
00:25:46.000 You know, Soros was Jewish, and his uncle took him around as a young boy when they confiscated...
00:25:52.000 He had property from the Jews, and he had to pretend that he was a Christian.
00:25:56.000 Yeah.
00:25:57.000 Did you ever see the interview with...
00:25:58.000 So who is his dad?
00:26:00.000 I mean, I'm trying to get to something that says it, but there's not...
00:26:02.000 Okay, we should really clarify that, not miss it.
00:26:06.000 Okay, so who is this gentleman?
00:26:07.000 Wilhelm.
00:26:08.000 What did he do?
00:26:10.000 Wilhelm, what did you do?
00:26:13.000 Okay.
00:26:13.000 Did Schoros's or Klaaschvab's father work for Hitler?
00:26:17.000 False.
00:26:18.000 Claim.
00:26:19.000 George Soros worked for Hitler.
00:26:21.000 Okay.
00:26:21.000 But what did his dad do?
00:26:25.000 Because this book that I read was about elite power structures.
00:26:31.000 And they go into the world economic form.
00:26:34.000 I wish I could remember exactly what they were saying.
00:26:37.000 But it was something to the tune of who his dad worked with.
00:26:40.000 Well, just to be clear, since you have the tinfoil hat right now, Joe, that my source for his mentor being Kissinger is a book called – that was published by the World Economic Forum called The World Economic Forum, The First 40 Years, which was published in 2011 to brag about how cool they've been.
00:26:55.000 He also brags that in 78, he started making connections to Deng Xiaoping and trying to bring the stakeholder, as he called it, capitalism model – It's this dirty fusion of neoliberalism, which is basically how do you get huge corporations to basically suck off of the government?
00:27:14.000 That's the thing the left has been mad about for 50 years.
00:27:17.000 How do you fuse that to communism?
00:27:19.000 And China is the answer.
00:27:21.000 And what I think is all this ESG stuff was constructed around it to make the West have it too.
00:27:29.000 So environmentalism, social – what is it?
00:27:31.000 Environmental social governance?
00:27:33.000 That's right, yeah.
00:27:33.000 That's ESG. Yeah.
00:27:35.000 And that stands for – like what is the goal of ESG? Corporate control.
00:27:40.000 The stated goal.
00:27:40.000 Oh, no.
00:27:41.000 So it is to create a metric, a measurement tool to assess the likely long-term viability – Of a corporation based on its environmental, social, and internal corporate governance policies.
00:27:56.000 Long-term viability for the nation?
00:27:58.000 No, for the corporation.
00:27:59.000 For the corporation.
00:28:00.000 Because here's what's going on is ESG was created at the United Nations in 2003 by a guy named James Gifford.
00:28:07.000 And the point was – he said, well, there's at that point about $6 trillion of money that's sitting out there.
00:28:13.000 It's people's pensions.
00:28:14.000 It's like passive, right?
00:28:15.000 Mutual funds, index funds, all this – mutual funds particularly, 401Ks.
00:28:20.000 There's state pension funds in particular.
00:28:23.000 $6 trillion in the world sitting out there.
00:28:26.000 It's just people's retirement funds gaining interest, playing in the market through this money management.
00:28:32.000 And the question James Gifford asked was how – he was a forest guy.
00:28:35.000 He was like, how do we apply that to saving the forest, save the trees, right?
00:28:39.000 And so he came up with this idea that if we had environmental assessments, anytime you have a metric, you can use that metric in some way or another.
00:28:46.000 In other words, or you can game that metric.
00:28:47.000 If we had metrics to say, well, how environmentally compliant are companies?
00:28:52.000 Like kind of an extension of corporate social responsibility, they used to call it.
00:28:56.000 If we can measure that, then what we can do is we can start directing – we can say, well, companies that have a long-term – that have good environmental policy have a better long-term portfolio.
00:29:06.000 But these are 30-year investments because they're people's pensions.
00:29:09.000 So that's long-term success that we're interested in, not boom and bust cycles in the market.
00:29:14.000 So the stated ambition – Not just to do what I said, but specifically to do that to bring that passively invested money into what they call impact investing.
00:29:23.000 In other words, to do activism with investor money by investing in green energy companies or green other environmental companies or socially just companies.
00:29:43.000 I don't know how they neglected to account for that if we give them all the credit in the world.
00:29:48.000 So like right now, it's super corrupt.
00:29:51.000 I just did a podcast about this where I had this document.
00:29:54.000 It's not like some mysterious document.
00:29:56.000 It's on the Harvard website where they're talking about corporate bonuses, right?
00:30:00.000 So it's Harvard corporate law website document.
00:30:03.000 And they're talking about corporate bonuses and the corporate bonus structure and that your governance score, your ESG score, so the G part will go up if you give corporate bonuses to yourself for implementing ESG. That's just naked corruption, right?
00:30:37.000 I think?
00:30:58.000 We're good to go.
00:31:02.000 We're good to go.
00:31:08.000 We're good to go.
00:31:25.000 To create a set of measurements that they could use to justify taking trillions of dollars of other people's money and doing activist investing with it.
00:31:35.000 And then all turned into the S is now DEI. It's woke.
00:31:39.000 It's woke social justice.
00:31:40.000 It's not social responsibility.
00:31:42.000 It's whatever they want.
00:31:43.000 Elon Musk bought Twitter, and his social score for Tesla went through the floor.
00:31:46.000 Like, what did they have to do?
00:31:47.000 And then all of a sudden, Tesla's a racist company they accused him of.
00:31:50.000 Like, what are you talking about, right?
00:31:52.000 They didn't like that he bought Twitter.
00:31:54.000 Weapons manufacturers like Dick Cheney's Halliburton were, you know, social bad, bad, bad, bad.
00:31:59.000 I think?
00:32:17.000 But it's become an instrument of control and effectively a social credit system for corporations to force corporations.
00:32:23.000 And that's what Larry Fink said about it on TV. He said you could pull up – I'm sure we can find the video and pull it up where he says that we're interested in forcing behaviors and that's what we're doing.
00:32:32.000 I want to get to that, but I still don't want to gloss over Klaus Schwab's dad.
00:32:35.000 No, of course.
00:32:36.000 I want to remember that.
00:32:37.000 And I got a George Soros that I'd love to not gloss over, too.
00:32:40.000 Okay.
00:32:40.000 Because he had a crazy interview in 2004 nobody knows about, and I think he'll get a kick out of it.
00:32:44.000 So hold what you were just saying about Larry Fink.
00:32:46.000 We'll put that...
00:32:47.000 Yeah, we're piling Jamie up here.
00:32:49.000 The best I could find is this Newsweek...
00:32:51.000 It was a story about whether he's linked to Nazi Germany.
00:32:55.000 This is...
00:32:56.000 I'll get down to here.
00:32:57.000 There's a post.
00:32:58.000 Look at this on the screen.
00:32:59.000 Look at him.
00:32:59.000 That's not him.
00:33:00.000 That's not his dad, so that's a fake photo.
00:33:02.000 Right, so that starts there.
00:33:04.000 Okay.
00:33:05.000 And then there is...
00:33:06.000 He worked at this company, Isher Weiss.
00:33:10.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:33:12.000 And then this is where there's no proof, but it also says it's not definitive, but there's no actual...
00:33:18.000 It says, Hitler's father, on the other hand, was the managing director of a subsidiary of Zurich-based engineering firm, Eischer Weiss.
00:33:26.000 The history of Eugen's relationship with Nazism in general is complex, but there's no substantive evidence of ties to high-ranking German leadership, particularly Hitler.
00:33:39.000 No evidence.
00:33:39.000 A fact check published by accredited German journalist DPA used denazification records to uncover that Eugen Schwab was a member of some national socialist organizations, but that alone does not prove any relationship to German high command or a belief in Nazi ideology.
00:34:00.000 But wait a minute, but the German national socialist organizations back then essentially were Nazis.
00:34:08.000 Right?
00:34:08.000 I mean, that is what it means.
00:34:10.000 By definition, Nazi.
00:34:10.000 That's what it means.
00:34:11.000 Like, that's what Nazi means, right?
00:34:13.000 National socialism, yeah.
00:34:14.000 So this is a weird sort of...
00:34:17.000 It feels a little dodgy.
00:34:18.000 Yeah, it's dodging, right?
00:34:20.000 Yeah, and it says he doesn't have evidence of ties to high-ranking leadership.
00:34:24.000 He was a member of organizations tied to the party, just not Hitler.
00:34:28.000 But hold this.
00:34:29.000 While the Escherweiss branch in Ravensburg, Germany, which Eugene managed, used prisoners of war and forced laborers, it's not clear whether the company was forced to do so by the Nazis or because of a lack of workers.
00:34:46.000 Wait a minute.
00:34:47.000 You just admitted 100% that he's a Nazi.
00:34:52.000 Because that's what Nazis did.
00:34:54.000 They used prisoners of war and forced laborers.
00:34:58.000 So they ran prison camps.
00:35:02.000 With probably Jews.
00:35:04.000 So what does that mean?
00:35:06.000 That's what the Nazis did.
00:35:07.000 Are we arguing over semantics?
00:35:09.000 Well, they are.
00:35:10.000 I don't think we are.
00:35:11.000 But that's an incredible argument.
00:35:13.000 To say that he managed a plant.
00:35:18.000 He managed the branch that used prisoners of war and forced laborers, but we're not clear whether he's a Nazi.
00:35:25.000 This is a weird article.
00:35:27.000 It's super weird.
00:35:28.000 Newsweek.
00:35:29.000 Well, maybe Newsweek was like, you gotta be real careful with what you say.
00:35:34.000 I mean, it's a bit of a damning accusation.
00:35:37.000 He was a confidant of Hitler, and I think they're just saying there's not a proof that he was that close to him.
00:35:41.000 Okay, but this is weird, right?
00:35:44.000 They're discrediting it by saying maybe he wasn't that close to Hitler, there's no proof.
00:35:48.000 But what they're not discrediting is that he did exactly what was horrific about what the Nazis did in World War II. Yeah, and I saw the word plutonium up there, so the nuclear stuff that we were talking about is connected to it.
00:36:02.000 What a weird article.
00:36:04.000 That's how much power is at the top.
00:36:07.000 You have to write weird articles like that going, well, there's no real proof that him and Hitler were homies.
00:36:13.000 Yeah, he was just a member of some national socialist organization.
00:36:17.000 Unlike reports, Hitler was not his top nine on MySpace.
00:36:21.000 I mean, That would be like – you'd think that they would write the article like about me because I've said like make America great again before but I've never met Trump.
00:36:28.000 So like would they write the article like James has never met Trump?
00:36:30.000 No, I got an SPLC profile that's sort of the other way around.
00:36:34.000 Did you know I'm an extremist now by the way, Joe?
00:36:35.000 I think I am.
00:36:36.000 Oh.
00:36:37.000 I think I've been labeled that.
00:36:38.000 They put me in a category called general hate.
00:36:40.000 So I sent a letter formally thanking them for the title.
00:36:45.000 I'm general hate.
00:36:46.000 It's like a war general.
00:36:49.000 Yeah.
00:36:50.000 I totally missed it.
00:36:51.000 Anyway, I'm funny.
00:36:52.000 Well, it's just ridiculous.
00:36:55.000 You're a brilliant guy and you're pointing out really important stuff.
00:36:59.000 Do you know what it's...
00:37:00.000 One of the first things they go after me for on there is, it's like the second thing that they go after me, that I made a series of tweets.
00:37:07.000 So you're a comedian, you get it, right?
00:37:09.000 I made a series of tweets mocking George Floyd on January 6th.
00:37:14.000 On January 6th?
00:37:15.000 Yeah, I pretended that George Floyd is like, you know, leftist Santa Claus.
00:37:20.000 So I was like, if you fight for justice for George Floyd, the spirit of George Floyd will bring you presents on January 6th.
00:37:26.000 Oh, boy.
00:37:27.000 Just stupid jokes.
00:37:28.000 I totally had forgotten that I had done it.
00:37:31.000 And then it was on my SPLC profile.
00:37:32.000 I'm like, oh, my God, these people.
00:37:33.000 Jokes.
00:37:34.000 Well, did you see about that Flemish...
00:37:37.000 That guy who was a part of the government who just got sentenced to one year in jail for sharing racist memes in a private chat.
00:37:46.000 I saw that last night.
00:37:47.000 Yeah.
00:37:47.000 Holy crap.
00:37:48.000 A private chat.
00:37:49.000 So if you got like a fucking iMessage chat group, is that a private chat?
00:37:54.000 Are they talking about that?
00:37:55.000 Are they talking about social media platforms?
00:37:57.000 Either way.
00:37:58.000 This guy shared racist memes.
00:38:01.000 Well, that was like when Tucker Carlson went to Russia, which I'm kind of like, I don't know what that's about for sure, but Tucker Carlson went to Russia and he finds out while he's there that the NSA is reading his encrypted signal chat.
00:38:15.000 I have a theory about that.
00:38:16.000 I don't think...
00:38:17.000 If I was the government and there was a bunch of these...
00:38:24.000 Companies that do something like that.
00:38:26.000 I'd make my own company.
00:38:27.000 Yeah, right, of course.
00:38:28.000 Or I'd infiltrate all of them.
00:38:29.000 Yeah.
00:38:30.000 Come on, guys.
00:38:31.000 It's not really encrypted, right?
00:38:33.000 Yeah, totally.
00:38:34.000 How the fuck do you know?
00:38:35.000 I know a lot of people that trust those things.
00:38:37.000 They'll say wild shit on those things.
00:38:38.000 Hey, talk to me on WeChat or whatever.
00:38:40.000 Yeah, totally owned by Facebook.
00:38:42.000 Yeah, it's fucking get the fuck out of here, bitch.
00:38:45.000 Let's make a WhatsApp group.
00:38:46.000 Oh, yeah, that's WhatsApp.
00:38:47.000 WeChat is the one that's on my CCP. WeChat's the Chinese one.
00:38:50.000 Yeah.
00:38:50.000 But, Jamie, so what was the story behind that?
00:38:54.000 The Flemish guy?
00:38:55.000 Yes.
00:38:55.000 I'm reading it right now.
00:38:56.000 He's trying to find out where they found those things.
00:38:59.000 I want to know what the memes were, if they're any good.
00:39:02.000 It says they were accused of using a chat group to exchange racist, anti-Semitic, and other extremist comments, but I'm not finding it.
00:39:08.000 Right, but they're saying memes.
00:39:10.000 The problem with memes is it could just be funny.
00:39:13.000 It could be like the Jews in the tunnel in New York City.
00:39:15.000 Yeah, right.
00:39:15.000 And something crazy like they're encountering Gollum down there, and that's a racist meme.
00:39:19.000 Well, it wasn't like the Pepe Frog alone like a racist meme or something.
00:39:22.000 It's like a frog.
00:39:23.000 Exactly.
00:39:24.000 But the thing is, like, you could take that frog and put a Hitler armband on him, and now, all of a sudden, the frog is tied to Hitler.
00:39:32.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:39:32.000 Which is what they do.
00:39:33.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:39:34.000 But it's also, people do use that frog for crazy shit for funsies.
00:39:39.000 Yeah, for right.
00:39:39.000 Because they're talking, they're shitposting.
00:39:41.000 Yeah, shitposting's totally a thing.
00:39:43.000 Shitposting is a thing, and you have to understand, these people don't even mean what they're saying.
00:39:49.000 They're saying something, some of them might, but a lot of them are just making something that's so outrageously offensive that it's funny.
00:39:58.000 Right.
00:39:58.000 And they're doing it anonymously, and they're sharing with people just for the lulls.
00:40:02.000 Yeah, shocked.
00:40:03.000 Shock comedy.
00:40:04.000 It's totally a thing.
00:40:05.000 And then you got some dude, you know, that passes physical fitness test wearing a polo and some khakis like, oh, we've got an extremist here, guys.
00:40:13.000 Right.
00:40:13.000 You know, it's weird that physical fitness and exercise and health is being tied to right-wing extremity now.
00:40:23.000 Extremists.
00:40:23.000 Yeah, I saw your gym.
00:40:24.000 You're totally a lunatic.
00:40:26.000 I must be a lunatic.
00:40:27.000 But there's many times they've tried to push things like that.
00:40:31.000 You're like, what is the motivation behind this?
00:40:33.000 Is this just for clicks and outrage?
00:40:35.000 It could be.
00:40:36.000 Is there someone who's actually saying that it would be a good idea if we connected health and fitness?
00:40:43.000 To right-wing extremism so that you'd be scared to be fit and healthy?
00:40:48.000 That's the full...
00:40:49.000 You want to go full tinfoil hat.
00:40:51.000 Who do you want to have a war with?
00:40:52.000 Do you want to have a war with Trump supporters?
00:40:55.000 Or do you want to have a war with the people who wear pink hats and are mad?
00:41:00.000 Like our health ministers.
00:41:01.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:41:02.000 Which war do you want to go to?
00:41:05.000 The people that are unhealthy, I'll fight them all day long.
00:41:08.000 They're going to quit.
00:41:10.000 They don't have any training.
00:41:11.000 You just walk up a hill.
00:41:12.000 Yeah, fight them from the top of a large mountain.
00:41:16.000 That's where you make your base.
00:41:17.000 No one's making it up there except fit people.
00:41:20.000 I mean, that's probably what...
00:41:22.000 The reason why they put civilizations up high, you know?
00:41:25.000 Make it really hard to get to them.
00:41:26.000 Yeah.
00:41:27.000 Lots of advantages.
00:41:27.000 This is stupid.
00:41:29.000 It's a stupid thing.
00:41:30.000 Everybody should be healthy, you fucking idiot.
00:41:32.000 Like, what are you saying?
00:41:33.000 Well, I get to take the tinfoil hat back.
00:41:36.000 I think there's a strategy.
00:41:37.000 I call this the politics of compliance.
00:41:39.000 I think we've gone through it with everything.
00:42:20.000 Matthew Feeney Right?
00:42:23.000 So there are the people who want to move forward into the glorious better world, but then there's the enemies of the people who are dragging their feet, the deplorables, the climate deniers.
00:42:32.000 It doesn't matter if the climate change thing is true or not because there's a label now, right?
00:42:35.000 The Christian nationalists, there's a label now, the racists, the transphobes.
00:42:40.000 So we could have unity.
00:42:42.000 But we can't have unity.
00:42:44.000 You were making the sacrifice.
00:42:45.000 You got the shot in your arm.
00:42:46.000 You did what you were supposed to, but we can't open up a society yet because these other people are dragging their feet or resisting.
00:42:53.000 So you have to have ways then, why the fitness thing, right?
00:42:56.000 You have to have ways to identify who the people are that aren't going along with the program.
00:43:00.000 So it's like you.
00:43:01.000 You got blown up for this.
00:43:02.000 You're like, well, I got COVID. I feel like shit.
00:43:05.000 I feel really, really bad.
00:43:07.000 Did you know, by the way, last time I was here, I went home with COVID, even though we did the test.
00:43:11.000 You got COVID? Yeah, I went home.
00:43:12.000 I had COVID. How'd you get it, do you think?
00:43:15.000 I think from when I went out to dinner after this, because I felt fine until I got home.
00:43:19.000 Oh, right from dinner?
00:43:20.000 Like a couple hours later?
00:43:21.000 Well, there was somebody at dinner that had like a cold or something.
00:43:24.000 But the COVID is like, so I barely got sick.
00:43:26.000 So I didn't know that it was like the person I would have gone out to dinner.
00:43:30.000 I wouldn't have thought I was sick.
00:43:31.000 I didn't even say I really got really sick.
00:43:33.000 That's part of the problem, too.
00:43:34.000 But the thing is that you became an emblem of the thing that you're not allowed to talk about, right?
00:43:40.000 The apple pectin, the horse paste, right?
00:43:44.000 And so there's all those articles.
00:43:45.000 That's why you got all that drama.
00:43:47.000 You got kicked off stuff or whatever all happened to you.
00:43:50.000 I don't remember exactly what happened, but you were the pariah, man.
00:43:53.000 Why?
00:43:54.000 Well, one of the things I remember you talking about was health and fitness.
00:43:56.000 Like, I'm healthy.
00:43:57.000 I'm fit.
00:43:58.000 I got this set of drugs.
00:44:00.000 I took it.
00:44:00.000 It seems to work.
00:44:01.000 I felt way better real quick.
00:44:04.000 And they can't have that if they're trying to create this dynamic that all the people who are staying home and wearing a mask and, you know...
00:44:13.000 We're cowering in fear primarily or later getting a shot.
00:44:16.000 And more importantly, complying to the pharmaceutical.
00:44:19.000 That's why I call it the politics of compliance.
00:44:21.000 Yeah.
00:44:22.000 So all of a sudden you became an emblem of, well, you know, maybe you should go outside and exercise sometimes.
00:44:27.000 And that's a huge problem for that group of compliant people.
00:44:30.000 And if you can whip them up or create conditions with misuses of power like many of our state governments and national or federal government did, Canada really did, and say, well, we have to keep everything closed down for your safety and we could open it back up except disinformation right-wing extremists like Joe Rogan are out there pushing the wrong ideas.
00:44:49.000 Well, in that case, you can get people to hate the person who's not going along with the program.
00:44:55.000 That's why I call it the politics of compliance.
00:44:57.000 This is what I could find about this story.
00:44:59.000 The Flemish story.
00:45:00.000 Okay.
00:45:01.000 So, Belgium's far-right prodigy gets prison term for inciting violence.
00:45:06.000 So, this goes back to 2018. So, I'll shorter walk you through the background.
00:45:10.000 Okay.
00:45:10.000 Okay.
00:45:13.000 This is the sentencing that happened.
00:45:16.000 He got a year.
00:45:17.000 Five other people in his group got suspended prison sentences.
00:45:23.000 Their charges included hatred, racism, Holocaust denial, and breaching local gun law.
00:45:28.000 It's the only notice of that I saw.
00:45:30.000 What is local gun law?
00:45:31.000 Is that like depicting guns in a favorable way?
00:45:35.000 Like, what is their law?
00:45:36.000 It could be that...
00:45:37.000 Because if it's a meme.
00:45:39.000 Isn't that wild, like, gun law of memes?
00:45:41.000 I love how good you're getting at picking apart their BS, though.
00:45:45.000 It said here it showed them posting pictures of themselves holding weapons.
00:45:48.000 Saying they were totally ready.
00:45:50.000 Oh, okay.
00:45:51.000 So posting photos, is it illegal to hold the guns?
00:45:55.000 Like, I want to know if they're illegally possessing the guns.
00:45:59.000 Is that what they're saying with gun law, or is it just photographs of the guns?
00:46:03.000 This is the report from the 2018 documentary that got made about them.
00:46:08.000 Some guy got infiltrated and got into their Discord, I think, is where they were sharing some of the stuff.
00:46:12.000 So these are far-right, allegedly far-right people in Belgium.
00:46:16.000 And I'll show you, not showing the audience this, but this shows some of the memes, I guess.
00:46:21.000 Okay.
00:46:23.000 I don't know which ones are illegal or not.
00:46:28.000 That Muhammad is a Lego puppet, a Lego toy.
00:46:33.000 And this is this woody Islamic harassment reward, the heroic man with sex.
00:46:40.000 Obviously Nazi meme.
00:46:41.000 When you go full gas.
00:46:43.000 No, they're obviously Nazi meme.
00:46:44.000 Mm-hmm.
00:46:46.000 See, these are problematic.
00:46:48.000 You can't be racist if there's only one race.
00:46:53.000 Okay, that's like an anti-Hitler meme.
00:46:56.000 Something like that with the guns might have been the problem.
00:46:58.000 Just holding the gun.
00:47:00.000 So here's the thing.
00:47:01.000 Is that gun illegal there?
00:47:02.000 I don't know which one.
00:47:04.000 That didn't explain it.
00:47:05.000 Let's Google.
00:47:06.000 Just pause for a second and open up a new tab and Google Belgian gun laws.
00:47:12.000 I want to know if they have laws similar to...
00:47:16.000 There's some countries that have a high population of people having guns.
00:47:20.000 Firearms are generally not allowed in Belgium, but goods such as switchblades and pepper spray are also considered a prohibited weapon.
00:47:28.000 Okay, so you can't carry a gun.
00:47:30.000 Click on that.
00:47:31.000 Can citizens carry a gun in Belgium?
00:47:32.000 See if there's any?
00:47:33.000 See where it says it right there?
00:47:34.000 Just click on that.
00:47:36.000 Whether an arm is legal or illegal mainly depends on who owns it, sells it, or uses it.
00:47:40.000 While most people are prohibited from owning or using automatic firearms, they are not illegal per se.
00:47:46.000 The armed forces and the police may use them.
00:47:48.000 Traders may procure these arms for them, and arms collectors can own them.
00:47:53.000 So, if these guys were an armed collector, they could own them, but that gun was an automatic weapon, I think.
00:48:00.000 I'm not really a gun expert, and I only got a quick glance at it, but it looked like an automatic weapon.
00:48:05.000 At the very least, a semi-automatic weapon.
00:48:08.000 Could have been that.
00:48:09.000 It had a large magazine.
00:48:11.000 Go to the photo again of the gun.
00:48:12.000 Let me take a look at it.
00:48:15.000 So either way, it seems like unless you're a security person, yeah, that's an automatic weapon.
00:48:21.000 Unless you're a security person, it might not be.
00:48:24.000 It could be an AR. It could be a semi-automatic weapon.
00:48:27.000 I don't know.
00:48:28.000 But at the end of the day, it seems like unless you're military or police, you're not supposed to own that.
00:48:35.000 Right.
00:48:37.000 So that could be the gun law.
00:48:38.000 Like, they had a photo of it.
00:48:40.000 That makes me feel a little bit better than if it's just like a gun meme.
00:48:44.000 Yeah, if it was just a meme, that'd be insane.
00:48:47.000 Well, those memes, those are insane that they're using the Hitler one as an example.
00:48:51.000 Because it's really like showing that Hitler was crazy.
00:48:55.000 Like, you can't be racist.
00:48:56.000 This is my thing.
00:48:57.000 We'll have only one race, so no one can be racist.
00:49:00.000 Like, that's fucking ridiculous.
00:49:01.000 I mean, that's one of the things that the SPLC accuses me of, though, is that I promoted the white genocide theory, which that is not true.
00:49:08.000 But what are you going to do about these things?
00:49:11.000 Well, there's plenty of people that have said crazy things about white people lately that you're allowed to say that just drives me nuts.
00:49:17.000 I just said that if the logic of CRT was played out to its conclusion, that it would end in a genocide of whites, which is a completely different thing.
00:49:25.000 That word if means a lot.
00:49:27.000 If it was taken to its fullest extent.
00:49:29.000 I think there's also a problem with When you tell people that a group of people are responsible for things, or a group of people just completely composed of individuals with completely different lives, and everyone's got different experiences,
00:49:45.000 and we say that that group of people is either bad or that group of people is responsible for everything, as soon as you do that, you allow othering.
00:49:54.000 That's right.
00:49:55.000 Othering is the number one problem we have tribally, culturally, that we can look at other human beings as if they're not us.
00:50:02.000 And this is what's going on in Gaza in Israel right now.
00:50:05.000 That's what's going on with this guy.
00:50:06.000 I'm not going to defend whatever, but this dude, like, the counter-reaction eventually to relentless identity politics is for the other side to start saying, okay, identity politics.
00:50:16.000 Right or wrong, what it does is it creates more of itself.
00:50:19.000 It's like it's contagious.
00:50:21.000 It makes people more racist.
00:50:22.000 Yeah, it does.
00:50:23.000 It does.
00:50:23.000 And when they feel like there's racism allowed against white people, that there's this double standard, then they get racist.
00:50:30.000 There's a lot of people that do that, man.
00:50:32.000 And it fuels it.
00:50:33.000 It's fucking horrible.
00:50:35.000 We should abhor racism with everything.
00:50:40.000 We should just treat everyone as individuals.
00:50:43.000 That's right.
00:50:44.000 Any arbitrary power, especially when it's applied corporately to groups, we should oppose it.
00:50:49.000 In Tennessee, it's in our state constitution.
00:50:51.000 The second article or whatever, Section 1, Article 1, or I got that backwards.
00:50:55.000 No, Article 1, Section 2 is that The non-resistance, I think I can almost do it from memory, the non-resistance against arbitrary power is to be considered slavish, absurd, and against the good and happiness of mankind or something like that.
00:51:09.000 So we should resist racism's arbitrary power.
00:51:11.000 You don't know that guy.
00:51:12.000 His skin color doesn't tell.
00:51:13.000 It's arbitrary to dislike him or to exclude him or whatever.
00:51:16.000 Whether he's white, whether he's black, whether he's Hispanic, it doesn't matter.
00:51:22.000 Same thing with sexism.
00:51:24.000 You don't know what that woman's capable of, for sure.
00:51:27.000 Let her try.
00:51:28.000 It doesn't mean you change the standards, right?
00:51:30.000 And so this is the pattern that has been exploited.
00:51:32.000 And this is where the double standards came from.
00:51:34.000 It's you should give us access.
00:51:35.000 And our sensibilities are like, hell yeah, we should give people access.
00:51:38.000 Let them try.
00:51:39.000 Let them in.
00:51:40.000 You know, don't exclude people.
00:51:42.000 Racism sucks.
00:51:44.000 Homophobia sucks.
00:51:46.000 Sexism sucks.
00:51:47.000 Misogyny is awful.
00:51:49.000 Let them in.
00:51:49.000 But then what happens is they say, well, you're not accommodating us.
00:51:52.000 You're not accommodating.
00:51:53.000 So it's like firefighters, like, well, we got to lower the standard or military.
00:51:57.000 We got to lower the standard so more women can pass the test.
00:52:00.000 Well, now we've got a problem.
00:52:02.000 Right?
00:52:02.000 And so after you make the accommodation, then you've changed the political structure.
00:52:06.000 And if you – it's one thing if that's just about people.
00:52:10.000 But what – it's like almost all this stuff seems to forget that manipulators and sociopaths and psychopaths exist.
00:52:17.000 Exactly.
00:52:17.000 Because what they're going to do is they're going to come in and they're going to say, you have to change it for me.
00:52:21.000 And you change it for them.
00:52:22.000 And then they're going to say, you have to change it for me again.
00:52:24.000 And then you change it for them again.
00:52:25.000 And then, you know, an inch or two at a time, you're a mile down the road.
00:52:28.000 You're like, how did I get here?
00:52:29.000 Right.
00:52:29.000 Right.
00:52:30.000 But that's the thing.
00:52:31.000 It's like I'm all in this restorative justice thing in the schools.
00:52:34.000 Oh, let's sit around and have a talk circle and talk it out.
00:52:36.000 Two kids get in a fight or whatever.
00:52:37.000 Somebody is doing some antisocial something.
00:52:39.000 Let's talk it out to the group and let's heal.
00:52:42.000 All right.
00:52:42.000 So it sounds a little hippie to me, but, you know, fine.
00:52:46.000 Let's look at it.
00:52:48.000 Some percentage, I would guess it's probably three or four, not very big, of the population, just to throw a guess out there because that's roughly where you start.
00:52:56.000 What's the total number of psychopaths, borderline personality, and so on?
00:53:00.000 It's about three or four percent of the population.
00:53:02.000 They're going to be like, oh, I can get away with this.
00:53:04.000 Oh, we have to – I'm not going to get in trouble if I bust some other kid's head at school.
00:53:07.000 I just have to sit in a talk circle and say, oh, I'm sorry.
00:53:09.000 OK, whatever.
00:53:10.000 And then it's all over and we've healed.
00:53:12.000 Like they're going to game – there are people who will game a system.
00:53:16.000 And it's like this kind of like empathy-driven, airy-fairy, if we just gave everybody money, there would be no crime.
00:53:24.000 Nonsense is driving us off of a cliff and it's causing these fights in our schools through terrible policies like restorative justice policies.
00:53:35.000 A lot of it's in criminals.
00:53:36.000 I remember all these articles back a year or two ago.
00:53:38.000 I don't know if they're still publishing.
00:53:39.000 It's like if we just paid people not to commit crime, they wouldn't commit crime.
00:53:43.000 Yeah, I've seen that.
00:53:43.000 Like, what the hell are you talking about?
00:53:45.000 It's like, have you ever done something edgy?
00:53:47.000 It's fun.
00:53:49.000 I'm not a criminal.
00:53:50.000 It's a part of their identity.
00:53:51.000 That, for real, like if you're in a gang, that's how you like validate yourself too.
00:53:56.000 Wasn't there something, they were trying to do this recently, they were trying to give people money to not commit violent crimes?
00:54:02.000 There was like an actual policy that was being proposed.
00:54:05.000 Somewhere.
00:54:06.000 Like Maryland or something.
00:54:07.000 Somewhere nutty.
00:54:08.000 Yeah.
00:54:08.000 Where you're like, what the fuck did you just say?
00:54:12.000 And the root of it, it's like, if you don't have...
00:54:17.000 Everyone wants a meritocracy.
00:54:19.000 We all agree to that.
00:54:20.000 We want a meritocracy.
00:54:21.000 We want the best people to...
00:54:22.000 And we want competition, which allows people to get better, and it allows us to have the best products, and the best thing, and the best music, and the best art.
00:54:30.000 But what is this?
00:54:33.000 Give people money to not commit crimes.
00:54:34.000 This is it.
00:54:36.000 The Dream Keeper Foundation Fellowship will pay participants.
00:54:39.000 I think this is it.
00:54:40.000 A new program out of San Francisco aims to decrease gun violence by paying high-risk individuals at least $300 a month to stay out of trouble.
00:54:51.000 That just means don't get caught.
00:54:53.000 That just means don't get caught.
00:54:54.000 And also, how do you make your money?
00:54:56.000 $300 is not going to cover...
00:54:58.000 In San Francisco, especially, yeah.
00:54:59.000 If you're selling meth, you're making a lot more than $300.
00:55:01.000 That's right.
00:55:02.000 Like, what are they going to do?
00:55:03.000 That's ridiculous.
00:55:04.000 But my point was, where I was getting to, is like, everybody wants a meritocracy.
00:55:07.000 But if you can keep...
00:55:11.000 So, there's no equality of opportunity.
00:55:15.000 If you can keep it that way, you're never going to really get a meritocracy, and that would be a better way to control it.
00:55:20.000 Yeah, sure.
00:55:21.000 I mean, this is full tinfoil hat.
00:55:23.000 The reason why all these social justice people are so excited about pumping billions of dollars into Ukraine and billions of dollars into whatever's happening with Israel and I don't know.
00:55:44.000 I don't know.
00:55:48.000 I don't know.
00:55:53.000 Fix this.
00:55:54.000 There's got to be some sort of a solution.
00:55:56.000 But if you don't, if we never get, not in 10 or 20 years, never get to equality of opportunity, you're always going to have a certain amount of disenfranchised people.
00:56:05.000 You have a portion of your population for sure that's going to be in trouble.
00:56:10.000 They're going to have problems.
00:56:12.000 Then you always got solutions.
00:56:14.000 You've always got opportunities.
00:56:16.000 You've got like this little moving game.
00:56:18.000 If everything is even, and then it's just competition, and then America thrives to be the greatest utopian idea of what we had hoped it would be.
00:56:29.000 Well, then it's really difficult to control people because they recognize that freedom is one of the most important aspects of having this kind of amazing opportunity to do whatever the fuck you want.
00:56:39.000 Brother, this is why I wear a tinfoil hat now all the time, basically.
00:56:43.000 Except I'm not really afraid of the radio waves, so I don't really wear a tinfoil hat at all.
00:56:46.000 I'm more afraid that this is intentional in a lot of places.
00:56:49.000 Well, we know in those cities.
00:56:51.000 We know.
00:56:51.000 But if they played it out this much, if they thought about it and said, you know what?
00:56:54.000 We want more crime.
00:56:56.000 We want more illegal aliens.
00:56:57.000 And if we keep the chaos, then we keep passing laws.
00:57:01.000 We'll get further down the road.
00:57:03.000 Because if you read the Marxist literature, which is unfortunately my damn job, They – you can derive a number of different conclusions.
00:57:10.000 One of these conclusions that you can derive absolutely is – do you know what repels a revolution in a country better than anything?
00:57:17.000 Stability, social stability.
00:57:18.000 So if you can destabilize a population, then you can get them to crave a revolution or you can – like with the Patriot Act, you can get them to assent to sacrificing their liberties for security.
00:57:29.000 So if you can destabilize an area, then you can – We just saw this.
00:57:36.000 This woman was in the Fox News this morning, so I had to double-check.
00:57:40.000 But she's talking about – was she from Maryland?
00:57:42.000 She's in the government.
00:57:43.000 She says that she wants to burn the country to the ground so her ideology can rise out of it, out of the ashes.
00:57:50.000 Right?
00:57:51.000 So she said this publicly.
00:57:54.000 She's the equity coordinator in one of these cities.
00:57:56.000 If you can find it, Jamie, you can pull it up.
00:57:58.000 I don't know.
00:57:59.000 It's on Fox News.
00:58:00.000 Equity coordinator, burn city, rise from the ashes.
00:58:03.000 You'll probably find it.
00:58:04.000 So this...
00:58:06.000 We know who's causing these crime problems.
00:58:08.000 It's those DAs.
00:58:10.000 We know who ran the DAs, who paid the money to run them is the Open Society Foundation.
00:58:14.000 They call them Soros DAs.
00:58:15.000 We finally broke the spell saying that this very, very rich man and now his very, very rich son are using their very large amounts of money to do things that aren't necessarily great politically.
00:58:26.000 Well, they used to be able to say if you criticize George Soros, you're an anti-Semite.
00:58:31.000 And that was what they always went with.
00:58:32.000 We always went with that.
00:58:33.000 Like, you got to see this thing, and I don't want to overload Jamie again, but in 2004, Soros gave an interview to the LA Times, and you can actually look this up.
00:58:41.000 I thought, that can't be real.
00:58:43.000 It's real.
00:58:43.000 He said that he thinks he's a god.
00:58:45.000 He said that he always suspected Is it possible that he was doing exactly what you were doing when you were making jokes about George Floyd on January 6th?
00:59:04.000 Maybe.
00:59:05.000 I'm trying to think of a time where I would have talked to the Los Angeles Times in a deliberate interview and said, you know, I'm Zool.
00:59:11.000 Maybe he was a little drunk and he was just like, why am I doing this bullshit interview?
00:59:15.000 I'm worth $30 billion.
00:59:16.000 Let me just talk some shit.
00:59:18.000 He reads pretty intentionally, but it's possible.
00:59:21.000 Maybe George Soros was doing some shitposting to the LA Times.
00:59:23.000 I was having a good time.
00:59:24.000 I mean, I would shitpost.
00:59:25.000 I would love to shitpost these big journalistic outlets now, but 20 years ago, I don't know.
00:59:30.000 Well, now they're all falling apart.
00:59:32.000 If you want to shitpost, you better do it quick.
00:59:34.000 I mean, you know what I did in the past.
00:59:35.000 I did my shitposting.
00:59:36.000 You did a lot of shitposting.
00:59:37.000 I did some epic shitposting.
00:59:38.000 What was the thing that we were just looking up before that, though?
00:59:41.000 The Fox thing?
00:59:43.000 Yes.
00:59:43.000 Yeah, because you should see this.
00:59:44.000 This is for real.
00:59:45.000 I saw it this morning.
00:59:46.000 Yes, the lady said burn it all down and have her idea of what society should be.
00:59:50.000 It's unfortunate.
00:59:51.000 I took a screenshot and I can pull it on my phone, but nobody can see that.
00:59:53.000 Well, there's a lot of people that don't have anything, that haven't accomplished anything, where that sounds like a good idea.
00:59:57.000 That's right.
00:59:58.000 So if you can make these people...
01:00:00.000 It's just the headline.
01:00:00.000 I'm trying to find the video.
01:00:02.000 So my ideology can rise from the ashes.
01:00:05.000 The equity officer.
01:00:08.000 It's like, okay, lady.
01:00:09.000 Equity.
01:00:10.000 But if you've created a whole industry based on equity.
01:00:14.000 But also says, I don't want to work.
01:00:17.000 I don't want to work.
01:00:17.000 This is exactly what you were just saying.
01:00:18.000 Yeah, she also says, I don't want to work.
01:00:20.000 She doesn't want to work.
01:00:21.000 So we've got to ask the question 100% for real though, right?
01:00:24.000 Equity official wants her ideology to rise from the ashes.
01:00:28.000 What ideology is it that she wants to – it's the equity one.
01:00:31.000 Well, what is that?
01:00:32.000 Do you know the definition of equity?
01:00:34.000 What is it?
01:00:34.000 It is an administered system in which – what's the word I'm looking for?
01:00:39.000 It's an administered system in which shares are adjusted so that citizens or participants are made equal.
01:00:44.000 So it's not equality of opportunity.
01:00:46.000 It's shares are adjusted so people are made equal.
01:00:48.000 So that's when you and I go to the range and I shoot the bow and I suck.
01:00:51.000 And you shoot the bow and you put it through the hole.
01:00:53.000 Then Jamie goes over and pulls my arrow out, moves it over three inches and sticks it in and like, James tied you.
01:00:59.000 I can't beat you.
01:00:59.000 I have to tie you.
01:01:00.000 Right.
01:01:01.000 Or we pull your arrow out of the bullseye and we move it over and like put it like right below mine in like the third or fourth ring out.
01:01:07.000 Actually, I missed the target.
01:01:08.000 Let's not lie.
01:01:09.000 Let's not brag about my show.
01:01:10.000 It's worded slightly differently.
01:01:11.000 I can't wait for society to collapse so my ideology can rise from the ashes.
01:01:17.000 What's different about that?
01:01:20.000 Burn.
01:01:21.000 I mean, the word burn is different.
01:01:22.000 Rise from the ashes?
01:01:24.000 It says the same thing.
01:01:25.000 That's what we read.
01:01:25.000 No, it's in this other quote in 2020. So Fox has stitched some things together here.
01:01:30.000 Okay.
01:01:31.000 So a different quote says, already been planning for how we will eat and live and grow after we burn it all down.
01:01:39.000 Well, I think the idea is that there's enough money.
01:01:42.000 If you take away the money from the billionaires and distribute it evenly, no one has to work.
01:01:46.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:01:47.000 It's like a 12-year-old's idea of what to do with money.
01:01:51.000 It's exactly what it is.
01:01:53.000 And it's also like...
01:01:55.000 Do you like phones?
01:01:56.000 Okay, who do you think makes those phones?
01:01:58.000 Who do you think designs those phones?
01:01:59.000 Who do you think works really fucking hard to make sure that the new Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra is better than the iPhone?
01:02:08.000 Who the fuck do you need competition?
01:02:10.000 Yeah, the person who does that is somebody who's willing to lay it on the line for a huge reward if it works out.
01:02:15.000 They want a yacht!
01:02:16.000 They want a yacht.
01:02:18.000 I want a yacht.
01:02:18.000 That guy wants a yacht.
01:02:19.000 He's like, I can see myself right now in the fucking British Virgin Islands, party with my friends on this yacht.
01:02:26.000 That's what he wants.
01:02:27.000 So that's why he's willing to work so hard.
01:02:29.000 If you fucking get free money, you're not going to work that hard, and you're not going to get the Samsung S24 Ultra.
01:02:36.000 You're not going to get that.
01:02:37.000 As in the thing is not going to exist.
01:02:38.000 It's not going to exist.
01:02:39.000 Nobody has the drive to make it.
01:02:40.000 No one's going to make it.
01:02:41.000 You're going to be forced to have a...
01:02:44.000 Imagine that person who said that.
01:02:47.000 Imagine if that person had to design electric cars, had to put together a manufacturing plant, had to figure out...
01:02:53.000 Imagine!
01:02:54.000 Imagine!
01:02:55.000 Some fucking person who says, I don't want to work.
01:02:58.000 I want to burn it all down.
01:02:59.000 I don't want to work.
01:03:00.000 So my ideology can And you take them seriously?
01:03:03.000 And this is a person that's in charge of – this is a thought person?
01:03:07.000 A person who's in charge of ideas?
01:03:09.000 And a person who's in charge of implementing some sort of a better system for society?
01:03:16.000 For real?
01:03:16.000 Yeah.
01:03:17.000 Ideology is a word people don't understand.
01:03:19.000 I had to read in the- It's a cult!
01:03:21.000 That's the word I was going for.
01:03:23.000 Thank you.
01:03:23.000 It is.
01:03:24.000 It's a cult.
01:03:25.000 It's a cult.
01:03:26.000 Okay?
01:03:26.000 So what it is, ideology is a fancy word for a mythology that the society buys into, that has a direction and that has activity.
01:03:34.000 It's a cult.
01:03:35.000 What we're looking at is the dynamics of a cult.
01:03:37.000 Everything will work out if everybody believes it.
01:03:39.000 We know how it'll work.
01:03:40.000 Nobody else knows how it'll work.
01:03:41.000 Yeah.
01:03:41.000 Put us in charge.
01:03:42.000 Obviously, when it doesn't work, somebody else is at fault.
01:03:45.000 That's actually – do you know that that's actually – you can talk to people who still believe the Soviet Union could have worked out, and they say the reason the communist countries failed – because obviously there are catastrophes, hundreds of millions dead, nothing works, they collapse.
01:03:58.000 They say that it was because there are capitalist countries pressuring them from the outside that prevent them from working.
01:04:03.000 So you can say, I've had this conversation.
01:04:06.000 So it can only work if every country is communist?
01:04:09.000 And they're like, that's right.
01:04:12.000 That's a global cult is what that is.
01:04:14.000 That's not real.
01:04:16.000 That's fantasy land.
01:04:18.000 And that's the – I think because equity means socialism as I just told you.
01:04:22.000 I think that that redistributes shares to make participants equal.
01:04:25.000 I think that that actually kind of shows that this is cult mentality that we're dealing with.
01:04:30.000 It is cult mentality but it's ingenious.
01:04:33.000 This is what's ingenious.
01:04:34.000 The genius aspect of it is that they've managed to cast such a wide net over what it means to be progressive that they've included all these radical Marxist ideas that everybody dismissed forever.
01:04:51.000 And they threw them all in with this gender stuff and LBGTQ stuff.
01:04:57.000 And then they threw that all in with race.
01:05:00.000 And then they threw that all in with immigration.
01:05:03.000 And then somehow attached it to funding international conflicts.
01:05:09.000 That's right.
01:05:10.000 At the expense of the people, the poorest people, who could benefit the most from that money.
01:05:16.000 That's right.
01:05:16.000 And using other people's pension money to fund a lot of it or to get it off the ground.
01:05:21.000 And if you oppose it, you're fascist.
01:05:25.000 It's...
01:05:25.000 Kind of brilliant.
01:05:27.000 It's sort of brilliant.
01:05:28.000 It's kind of brilliant.
01:05:29.000 Yeah.
01:05:30.000 It's either intentional or we're just so vulnerable to ideologies, which seems to also be the case.
01:05:38.000 It's why there's so many different sects of religions, even sects of Christianity.
01:05:42.000 The fucking Protestants hated the Catholics forever.
01:05:46.000 What happened in Iraq.
01:05:48.000 With the Sunnis and the Shias.
01:05:51.000 This is always the case!
01:05:54.000 It's always the case.
01:05:54.000 People have like really rigid ideologies and the punishment for abandoning them or the punishment for stepping outside is death!
01:06:04.000 Death!
01:06:04.000 You're fucking dead, you bitch!
01:06:06.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:06:06.000 You're not one of us.
01:06:07.000 You're not one.
01:06:07.000 And that is what we're seeing in this country.
01:06:10.000 That's right.
01:06:10.000 We're seeing this weird leftist, progressive ideology with a super wide net that covers so many things, including all these industries that are set up to make it look like they want a better world, where really they just want to dominate a sector of the market.
01:06:27.000 Whether it's green energy or agriculture or food or plant-based meat or any of this fucking psycho shit that they're trying to push all the time, they're doing it for profit and they're doing it this super wide net of being a good person, being a progressive.
01:06:43.000 That's why I call it neoliberal communism.
01:06:45.000 And I say that that Deng Xiaoping character we were talking about earlier is like he's the guy that nobody knows about except, I mean, the Chinese do, obviously.
01:06:53.000 But we really need to pay attention to what he cooked up and how what they have – whether it's World Economic Forum or UN or the WHO or their god-awful treaty to the health sovereignty thing.
01:07:04.000 Have you seen – you know what I'm talking about, right?
01:07:05.000 What is that?
01:07:06.000 Well, let me finish the thought and we'll come back to it.
01:07:08.000 So they're copying that same model.
01:07:10.000 It's neoliberalism, which is how do you get huge corporations to be able to basically get tons of money and have monopoly power and make it off of the government?
01:07:18.000 That's why the Rockefeller guy would have been interested in all this.
01:07:21.000 And how do you do it with a communist ideology at the same time?
01:07:24.000 China is the model.
01:07:26.000 We're seeing it build out in the West.
01:07:27.000 This stuff like we now are seeing proof.
01:07:29.000 It just came out the other day that the Chinese are like funding the trans stuff.
01:07:33.000 They're like pushing it, right?
01:07:35.000 I just wrote a book.
01:07:35.000 I didn't even know that to put it in the book.
01:07:37.000 I wrote a book about the trans stuff.
01:07:38.000 It just came out on the 29th called The Queering of the American Child to talk about how schools have been turned into like indoctrination centers.
01:07:46.000 It all goes back to the not just Marxist but Maoist strategy.
01:07:51.000 To make the world conform, that politics of compliance, to make the world conform to this new ideological vision that they have.
01:07:58.000 And it's got to be, like we were saying, it's got to be religious to the people who believe it.
01:08:04.000 It is religious to the people who believe it.
01:08:06.000 It's new values.
01:08:06.000 They even say that.
01:08:07.000 Klaus Schwab said that you can't rationalize – how did he say it?
01:08:10.000 You can't rationalize values through the intellectual process alone.
01:08:13.000 It requires faith.
01:08:14.000 We've all seen children that grow up in religious cults.
01:08:18.000 We've all seen the horror stories of children that come from these radical religious cults and they escape when they get older and they tell the story of the indoctrination and what all they believed.
01:08:32.000 When I see a woman and she's got three trans kids, that is what I think of.
01:08:38.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:08:39.000 I think of someone who is a full adherent and ideologically captured by this cult to the point where they see value in having their child be a part of the LBGTQ movement because it looks good for them socially.
01:08:52.000 It's like they have a flag on their fucking porch.
01:08:55.000 Yep.
01:08:55.000 And they wave their kids around.
01:08:58.000 And it's weird.
01:09:00.000 And it's not everybody.
01:09:01.000 No.
01:09:01.000 It's not everybody.
01:09:02.000 But it's not everybody that has trans kids or a kid who thinks he's trans.
01:09:06.000 It's probably gay.
01:09:08.000 And probably if you leave them alone and don't encourage them to castrate themselves.
01:09:12.000 Or a young woman with trauma or, you know...
01:09:14.000 Autism.
01:09:15.000 Autism going through her period, which is like, what's going on in my body?
01:09:19.000 I don't like it.
01:09:20.000 If you have girls, that's a traumatic experience for them.
01:09:23.000 It's very difficult.
01:09:24.000 It's confusing.
01:09:25.000 It's weird.
01:09:26.000 That's why we wrote this book, man.
01:09:28.000 The whole book is like, queer theory is the doctrine of a religious cult.
01:09:31.000 It's based on sex, it primarily targets kids, and it's got barely anything to do with gay people.
01:09:36.000 Almost nothing.
01:09:37.000 And so...
01:09:38.000 Also this idea that the only way to fix what's bothering you is surgery.
01:09:43.000 Surgery.
01:09:44.000 It's crazy.
01:09:44.000 Or hormones.
01:09:45.000 Oh my god.
01:09:46.000 It's crazy.
01:09:46.000 Insane.
01:09:47.000 Well, in Europe, or in the UK, rather, they've banned these hormone blockers now for children.
01:09:53.000 Yeah, the UK, the NHS just backed off of that completely.
01:09:56.000 It's like, okay, your move, United States, because this is serious.
01:10:00.000 It is serious.
01:10:00.000 And what scares me is that they have a socialized medicine system, and they can back off of things, I think, a little bit easier than we can in America when they've opened up how many gender-affirming care clinics.
01:10:11.000 There's a path, and I mean, I don't know how many legislators pay attention to the show, but they should take it seriously.
01:10:18.000 Missouri has kind of tread the way.
01:10:20.000 A lot of these states, there's 26 states that have tried to ban transgender care so far, and they're getting sued.
01:10:26.000 Of course they're getting sued, right?
01:10:27.000 Of course they're getting sued.
01:10:29.000 Some plaintiff comes in, the ACLU shows up with an army of lawyers, and they're like, no, it's civil rights, it's medically necessary, blah, blah, blah.
01:10:36.000 And then it's a battle in the court, and it depends on who the judge is.
01:10:39.000 There's another way.
01:10:39.000 Missouri actually more or less stopped this stuff with one simple change to the law.
01:10:43.000 They changed the statute of limitations for medical harm.
01:10:46.000 So my thought is if you're under 20 and you undergo some of this medical treatment, you have a 20 year statute of limitations.
01:10:55.000 Anybody who gets the surgery done, you know, surgeries, hormones, whatever, under 20 years old, they have until their 40th birthday if they decide they regret it to file a malpractice suit.
01:11:05.000 Not to win the malpractice suit, but to file one.
01:11:07.000 The statute of limitations in Missouri previously that was either two or three years and they extended it and I don't know exactly how long.
01:11:12.000 And it basically shut it down.
01:11:15.000 We could shut a lot of this down by – because America, like you said, works differently.
01:11:18.000 We could – we don't have socialized – we could shut this down through litigation.
01:11:22.000 And that litigation, all you have to do is open the – what do they call rights to action.
01:11:27.000 So let's say I'm in my 40s, so it's not like that.
01:11:31.000 But if I'm a 19-year-old or 17-year-old or 15-year-old like Chloe Cole was and I go and I get – Right now,
01:11:54.000 usually, you cannot.
01:11:55.000 I mean, some of these detransitioned teenagers are suing.
01:11:58.000 You know, Chloe was and You know Chloe, right?
01:12:01.000 Chloe Cole?
01:12:02.000 I've seen the story.
01:12:03.000 Okay, yeah.
01:12:03.000 So some of these detransitioners...
01:12:04.000 It's horrible how they get treated, too.
01:12:06.000 Oh, yeah.
01:12:07.000 People attack them like they're traitors.
01:12:09.000 They get attacked like traitors because they left a cult.
01:12:12.000 Exactly.
01:12:12.000 And listen to how they talk.
01:12:14.000 They talk like I was in a cult.
01:12:16.000 Like I was completely convinced I had other problems.
01:12:18.000 This would solve all my problems.
01:12:20.000 I was affirmed at every step.
01:12:22.000 That's love bombing.
01:12:24.000 So there's this queer educator, which is a...
01:12:27.000 It's a fucking weird thing to even say, right?
01:12:29.000 His name is Kevin Kumashiro.
01:12:31.000 And Kevin Kumashiro wrote his paper back in 2002 titled Against Repetition.
01:12:36.000 And in this paper, he actually says that the point of social justice and specifically queer education is to lead children into personal crisis and then structure their environment so they resolve the crisis toward social justice.
01:12:52.000 That's trauma bonding.
01:12:54.000 That's cult recruitment.
01:12:55.000 That should be a prison sentence.
01:13:00.000 And they know they're doing it.
01:13:02.000 They're leading them into personal crisis.
01:13:06.000 It's like hard to even say the sentencing and you get mad because these are children.
01:13:10.000 But it's so crazy that we've always protected children from influence.
01:13:14.000 We've always protected children from bad decisions.
01:13:16.000 That's why you can't get a tattoo before you're 18 years old.
01:13:19.000 No, they have to go after the kids.
01:13:20.000 They have to because they're soft targets.
01:13:23.000 You're 100 percent right, but they're after childhood innocence.
01:13:26.000 They say that too.
01:13:26.000 There are papers against childhood innocence saying that it's a social construct meant to protect some kids and not others and meant to preserve normalcy and white heteronormativity and all of this other crap.
01:13:39.000 That's why the term minor attracted persons freaks me the fuck out.
01:13:44.000 When you're trying to normalize pedophilia, you're trying to normalize people who want to fuck kids.
01:13:50.000 That's crazy.
01:13:51.000 And by the way, it's almost always men.
01:13:54.000 You are empowering the creepiest of creeps.
01:13:59.000 The creepy creeps.
01:14:00.000 The monsters of the male species.
01:14:04.000 If you want to talk about men, like men being toxic, the most toxic...
01:14:08.000 Yeah.
01:14:09.000 You're empowering the evil ones, the ones infected by demons that want them to go fuck kids.
01:14:17.000 You're empowering them by telling them that it's an identity?
01:14:22.000 Yeah.
01:14:22.000 And I'll tell you, queer theory doesn't not have limiting principles.
01:14:26.000 It's opposed to limiting principles on principle.
01:14:28.000 Let me give you another definition.
01:14:30.000 This is a book called St. Foucault, naming the Michel Foucault, the postmodern guy we made fun of back in the Grievance Studies papers.
01:14:36.000 And so Michel Foucault is lionized in this book.
01:14:40.000 And this is the book where queer and queer theory gets defined.
01:14:43.000 David Halperin wrote it.
01:14:44.000 Ninety-five is the date.
01:14:46.000 And it's right there in the paragraph that he writes, defining queer.
01:14:49.000 It starts with these three words, unlike gay identity, has virtually nothing to do with gay people.
01:14:54.000 Why?
01:14:55.000 He says because that's rooted in a positive truth.
01:14:58.000 You're gay, right?
01:14:59.000 That's a truth.
01:15:00.000 You're gay.
01:15:01.000 He says queer need not be grounded, he says, in any positive truth or any stable reality, it is whatever is opposed to the normal, the legitimate, and the dominant.
01:15:15.000 What?
01:15:16.000 So normal and legitimate.
01:15:17.000 I mean, they're always after the dominant, so we can just...
01:15:20.000 But isn't that local?
01:15:21.000 Because, like, if you're in West Hollywood, the dominant is gay.
01:15:25.000 Well, they don't want...
01:15:26.000 They don't like that either.
01:15:28.000 It's not about gay.
01:15:29.000 So you'd have to be opposed to the gay.
01:15:30.000 You'd be straight.
01:15:31.000 They literally...
01:15:32.000 I hate using huge words on shows.
01:15:34.000 It's homonormativity is what they call that.
01:15:36.000 If you consider being gay normal as a normal part of society, that's homonormativity.
01:15:40.000 It's as bad as heteronormativity.
01:15:41.000 It's no better.
01:15:42.000 Wow.
01:15:57.000 I don't have to have a tinfoil hat for this.
01:15:59.000 We can just crumple that up and throw it in the trash.
01:16:01.000 This is black and white in their literature.
01:16:03.000 This is what they're like, hey, look what we're going to do.
01:16:05.000 Let's protect the boy lovers.
01:16:07.000 Gail Rubin, 1984. You want the citation?
01:16:10.000 These people are dead serious.
01:16:13.000 And they are opposed to the idea.
01:16:15.000 So this started by me saying they're opposed to limiting principles on principle.
01:16:19.000 What does that mean?
01:16:20.000 It means at some point somebody's going to say, you know what, you want to hump kids?
01:16:25.000 No.
01:16:26.000 That's a limiting principle.
01:16:27.000 We draw the line at kids.
01:16:28.000 That's a limiting principle.
01:16:30.000 They're opposed actually to anything that tells them no.
01:16:34.000 Anything in the world, including the world itself.
01:16:37.000 Telling them no.
01:16:38.000 Oh yeah, you technically can't be a man who becomes a woman, but let's just chop you up until you're close enough.
01:16:45.000 The world's telling you no, but we're going to keep doing surgeries and hormones until it's kind of like yes.
01:16:51.000 Jesus Christ.
01:16:52.000 Dude, I know you're probably not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk, but I was on stage with Charlie Kirk talking about this.
01:16:59.000 He wanted to talk about critical race theory with me, and I'm like, damn it, Charlie.
01:17:02.000 I'm getting frustrated sitting there.
01:17:03.000 Why would you say I'm not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk?
01:17:05.000 I don't know.
01:17:05.000 Maybe you are.
01:17:08.000 I think he's very smart.
01:17:09.000 He's freaking smart.
01:17:10.000 Nobody gives him credit for that.
01:17:11.000 No, because they associate him with the white nationalist sort of right wing.
01:17:16.000 He's a different guy.
01:17:18.000 He is quick.
01:17:18.000 He's not who they label him to be.
01:17:20.000 He's very smart.
01:17:21.000 He's very, very smart.
01:17:22.000 And so Charlie and I were sitting on stage, and I'm getting pissed at him, right?
01:17:26.000 Because it's like, I don't want to talk about critical race theory again.
01:17:28.000 And so I'm like, okay, Charlie, we need to talk about queer theory.
01:17:31.000 He's like, what's queer theory?
01:17:32.000 And I kind of explained the normal thing.
01:17:33.000 And he's like, whoa.
01:17:35.000 He didn't swear because he's a good Christian boy.
01:17:37.000 But I'm like, Charlie, let's put it real simple.
01:17:40.000 Queer theory opens the gates to hell.
01:17:43.000 And I think that that's like the best way to put it.
01:17:45.000 This stuff they're pushing on the kids opens the gates to hell.
01:17:48.000 Of course, this is why I'm in trouble because I started saying OK Groomer.
01:17:51.000 You know, I got kicked off Twitter for OK Groomer for like five months until Elon brought me back.
01:17:55.000 Thanks, Elon.
01:17:57.000 But why was I calling them groomers?
01:17:59.000 I get challenged on this.
01:18:00.000 People drag me in these interviews.
01:18:01.000 Well, you were part of that groomer thing.
01:18:02.000 Well, there's a paper that they wrote.
01:18:05.000 Everything I do is I read their stuff and I said something and people are like, that can't be real.
01:18:09.000 It turns out it is.
01:18:10.000 And so this paper is the Drag Queen Story Hour paper.
01:18:14.000 It's called Drag Pedagogy.
01:18:15.000 It's free access.
01:18:16.000 You can go look it up.
01:18:17.000 The title is Drag Pedagogy.
01:18:18.000 Read it for yourself.
01:18:20.000 It's written by a drag queen named Lil Miss Hot Mess.
01:18:23.000 And a trans educator named Harper Keenan came out in Curriculum Inquiry, which is a serious academic journal in curriculum for schools.
01:18:33.000 And at the end, they say that they're talking about the family-friendly aspect, the branding, that it's family-friendly.
01:18:41.000 And what they say is that it's not so much that family-friendly is to sanitize drag.
01:18:47.000 That's not what it is.
01:18:48.000 It's actually—and this is their exact word.
01:18:50.000 So I ask people when they challenge me on this, what word do I use for this?
01:18:53.000 They say it is a preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship.
01:18:58.000 That's a direct quote.
01:19:00.000 Then they say— A preparative introduction to alternate modes of kinship?
01:19:05.000 Yeah.
01:19:06.000 I don't know if you want to get that pulled up and on screen and show it, but it's for real.
01:19:10.000 The paper's called Drag Pedagogy.
01:19:11.000 It's easy to find.
01:19:12.000 It's the first paragraph in the conclusion if you need to scroll.
01:19:15.000 Then it goes on to say that the family in Family Friendly actually refers to a queer code for the queer family you meet on the street.
01:19:24.000 Their words.
01:19:25.000 I'm not exaggerating.
01:19:26.000 The queer community.
01:19:28.000 You abandon your real family for a queer family.
01:19:31.000 The last sentence in the paper says that they're going to leave a trail of glitter that will never come out of the carpet.
01:19:38.000 You know I'm funny and I could make stuff up.
01:19:40.000 I didn't make this up.
01:19:44.000 So these guys are like, you can't say, okay, groomer.
01:19:46.000 And I'm like, what word do I use for that?
01:19:49.000 And I've yet to have somebody tell me what word is better.
01:19:54.000 Of course that's the word for that.
01:19:55.000 Alternate mode of kinship?
01:19:57.000 And they say it's all about queer world-making.
01:19:59.000 Same paragraph.
01:20:00.000 Queer world-making has always been a project based in desire.
01:20:03.000 So for them, let's try to steel man this.
01:20:07.000 Imagine if you're a gay person and you were picked on in school, you always felt...
01:20:15.000 Yeah.
01:20:44.000 You could look at it that way.
01:20:46.000 They wish that there was a path for someone like them.
01:20:50.000 Yeah, I have three actual responses to that.
01:20:52.000 So first, we're not talking about sitting down and having the hey buddy talk with your kid who just did a jerk thing.
01:20:58.000 We're talking about drag queens in a classroom, which is a little bit more.
01:21:04.000 Which they call, in fact, a generative introduction to queer world-making in the paper, which is pretty insane.
01:21:10.000 But secondly, in the paper, the immediate section before the conclusion, the last section before the conclusion, so right before what I just told you, there's a section titled, From Empathy to Embodied Kinship.
01:21:21.000 That's their title for it.
01:21:22.000 That's the title of the thing.
01:21:23.000 And they explain that this empathy root is a marketing strategy.
01:21:27.000 They use that for marketing to justify its inclusion, but its real purpose is to lead children to discover queer aspects of themselves.
01:21:34.000 So that's not what they're doing it for.
01:21:36.000 That's not the purpose.
01:21:38.000 So there must be another purpose.
01:21:40.000 And what's the other purpose?
01:21:42.000 I think it's a cult initiation ritual.
01:21:44.000 I think the point of the drag queen is to get the kids, exactly what they say in the paper, start asking questions.
01:21:50.000 Why is that man dressed as a woman?
01:21:52.000 Do we always have to follow rules?
01:21:53.000 Can we do whatever we want?
01:21:55.000 Isn't this more fun?
01:21:56.000 And they start asking the questions and having the conversation, and then the kids who show interest end up going off into...
01:22:03.000 You know, the club after school where they get affirmed.
01:22:05.000 And I think that's where the cult initiation is going on.
01:22:08.000 And I'm dead serious.
01:22:09.000 I think the Drag Queen Story Hour was a cult initiation ritual for queer activism for our kids.
01:22:15.000 But then let's do the medical approach.
01:22:18.000 And I'm not talking about – you know, I got a PhD in math.
01:22:20.000 That was my background.
01:22:21.000 And so one of the things that I was shocked when I was learning math back in the – you know, 20 years ago – Yeah.
01:22:48.000 It's the same reason, sort of, that we don't just give everybody, say, Ritalin because some kids have ADHD. But what it is is that if we tested everybody for cancer, that test has a false positive and a true positive and a false negative and a true negative rate.
01:23:02.000 Those are called the specificity and sensitivity of the test.
01:23:06.000 And if we screen everybody, what happens is you actually end up with way more false positives because there are way more healthy people than sick people, and the sum percentage of them turns out to be a far larger number.
01:23:18.000 So that if you do that, what you end up doing is telling thousands of people per year that they have cancer when they don't.
01:23:25.000 Freaking them out, causing them to rearrange their lives, plus it's expensive, and then some of them will have a false positive twice.
01:23:32.000 And then depending on the specificity and sensitivity of the test, it can be almost three times before you hit 50-50 as to whether you got a positive test.
01:23:40.000 So imagine you go and you get tested for cancer, screened for cancer, and it says you have cancer.
01:23:43.000 And then you get tested for cancer again and it says you have cancer.
01:23:46.000 And you go a third time and you have cancer, but you only have a 50-50 shot of actually having cancer because of the way the populations break down.
01:23:53.000 You're going to be shitting your pants.
01:23:54.000 You're going to rearrange your life.
01:23:56.000 You're going to make some bad decisions.
01:23:59.000 So what don't you do in the schools?
01:24:01.000 You don't assume that a large population of the children are gay kids who are getting bullied and treat the entire population of school kids like they're gay kids who are being bullied.
01:24:11.000 You figure out when somebody's being bullied and you deal with the person individually and you figure out when somebody's doing the bullying and you deal with the people individually.
01:24:18.000 And we've known this since time immemorial until...
01:24:22.000 In my opinion, we've reinvented our policies in the schools to do this broad cult initiation.
01:24:30.000 We treat everybody like they're sick, which is exactly the opposite.
01:24:34.000 So there's the paper itself lying about it.
01:24:37.000 There's the logical understanding of it.
01:24:39.000 But then there's also you don't broadcast or universally screen to deal with low propensity sicknesses.
01:24:47.000 It's just a terrible idea.
01:24:50.000 Well, that's very logical.
01:24:52.000 It turns out it was from PhD math program, so the logic is strong there.
01:24:58.000 Jesus Christ.
01:25:00.000 Yeah, because that was when I was getting prepped to teach statistics and it's like these are the things you want to teach people in a statistics class so they don't go make dumbass decisions because they don't understand how numbers work.
01:25:09.000 There's also this issue with the influence that people have on kids just in general.
01:25:16.000 We're so flippant about who teaches kids.
01:25:19.000 And it should be a really difficult job to get, and it should pay really well.
01:25:24.000 And it's almost, if you wanted to go full tinfoil hat again, you would think, by design, you would want the least motivated, weirdest fucking shitheads to be teaching your kids.
01:25:38.000 Because you would ensure that their education would suck.
01:25:41.000 And especially if those kids, if those people, if you push the type of people to teach that were a part of this ideology that you're trying to push...
01:25:52.000 Well, these people aren't doing well anyway, for the most part.
01:25:55.000 They're not super financially successful if they're looking to push these agendas.
01:26:01.000 In general, they're not really excellent capitalists.
01:26:04.000 So you could probably pay them less.
01:26:07.000 And you can get these people.
01:26:09.000 They want that job because they think they're a part of a movement.
01:26:11.000 That's right.
01:26:15.000 Something has been going on for a very long time.
01:26:17.000 There's a couple of explanations.
01:26:18.000 One thing to say is even without the tinfoil hat, right, queer theory in its own – imagine that you have the hiring body, the administration at the school gets infected with queer theory.
01:26:28.000 Oh, well, I don't want to – that guy might like kids, but I don't want to assume, right?
01:26:32.000 I don't want to judge him.
01:26:34.000 It lowers the potential to say, wait a minute, bringing in this weirdo who's throwing off red flags everywhere might be a bad idea.
01:26:42.000 Or in this case, I guess rainbow flags with the triangle cut out of it.
01:26:44.000 That might be a bad idea, right?
01:26:47.000 Queer theory overrides your common sense.
01:26:49.000 So it lowers the screening potential.
01:26:52.000 It just makes the whole – it's like the fence is wider open.
01:26:56.000 So good people will make more mistakes when queer theory has come in.
01:27:01.000 But then there's the fact that this actually was – a lot of people don't understand.
01:27:05.000 We don't need a tinfoil hat to understand that the universities are fucked up.
01:27:09.000 Nobody does.
01:27:10.000 Look at them.
01:27:10.000 Holy shit.
01:27:11.000 Harvard, let's name some more universities.
01:27:13.000 They're all messed up.
01:27:15.000 And the fact is there's – I know I keep throwing out sources, but there's this book I read.
01:27:20.000 It's called The Critical Turn in Education.
01:27:21.000 It was published by a Marxist at Iowa State University named Isaac Gottesman in 2016, 15, one or the other.
01:27:29.000 And right from the beginning, one of the things he's explaining is that people with their ideology of education, which is called critical pedagogy, Actually had captured our schools of education virtually entirely by 1992. That's the date the Marxists themselves say this is when we got the schools of education.
01:27:48.000 So I tried to explain this in this documentary that I've got coming out in May called Beneath Sheep's Clothing, and it's very simple.
01:27:57.000 If you get the colleges of education, then you're going to get the teachers.
01:28:00.000 And if you get the teachers, then you get the kids.
01:28:21.000 Since 1992. That's, you know, if we're keeping track on our fingers, 32 years ago.
01:28:27.000 Well, this is what Yuri Besbinov talked about in the 80s.
01:28:30.000 Exactly.
01:28:31.000 Yeah.
01:28:31.000 Yeah, it's like I say what I just said and then Yuri in the trailer to that film, which is at the top of my Twitter, if anybody wants to see it.
01:28:39.000 Let's see it.
01:28:40.000 We go back and forth.
01:28:41.000 Yeah, it's like right at the top after my cool book.
01:28:43.000 Let's see the trailer.
01:28:43.000 When does this come out?
01:28:44.000 End of May.
01:28:46.000 Most people are blissfully unaware that all this is going on.
01:28:49.000 That's why I'm writing books and making movies where I could be going out and, like, enjoying my life.
01:28:54.000 Yeah.
01:28:55.000 Like, I do like traveling around.
01:28:56.000 I like getting to meet people.
01:28:57.000 I've got, like, one of my, you know, I don't know if you know who Tiffany Justice is with Moms for Liberty.
01:29:01.000 No, well, yeah.
01:29:02.000 But she says all the time, who knew we were going to make so many cool friends in our 40s?
01:29:06.000 Right.
01:29:07.000 Is this the trailer right here?
01:29:08.000 Yeah, with the blonde lady.
01:29:09.000 That's Julie Beeling.
01:29:10.000 She wrote the book it's based on.
01:29:19.000 Even in the future, nothing works.
01:29:22.000 We'll see here.
01:29:23.000 It's spinning.
01:29:23.000 Oh, did I post it twice?
01:29:25.000 I'm an idiot.
01:29:27.000 Here's the thing about communism.
01:29:29.000 When it comes knocking at your door, it doesn't say, hi, I'm here to impoverish, enslave, and murder you.
01:29:35.000 It says, I'm here to liberate you from oppression.
01:29:40.000 I thought of myself as a happy kid.
01:29:42.000 I had no idea that I was being brainwashed.
01:29:54.000 That's right.
01:29:56.000 All of them is infiltrated.
01:29:58.000 This was a rape of the body of Christ.
01:30:06.000 You take over the colleges of education, then you take over all the teachers, then you take over all the students, and thus you get the future.
01:30:13.000 He said the ultimate objective of having government school was to destroy Christianity.
01:30:18.000 Those were his words.
01:30:20.000 People's war means to destroy the opposing country through unconventional methods.
01:30:26.000 And Khrushchev bragged about it.
01:30:28.000 We'll take America without firing a shot.
01:30:31.000 In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of American students without being challenged.
01:30:38.000 The result?
01:30:39.000 The result you can see.
01:30:53.000 That looks good.
01:30:55.000 What is that going to be on?
01:30:58.000 It's got a deal with Rumble, so it's primarily going to be on Rumble, and we'll spread it from there.
01:31:05.000 I was going to ask, it must be exclusively on Rumble.
01:31:08.000 I don't know that it's totally exclusive, because we're talking about...
01:31:11.000 Can YouTube host something like that?
01:31:13.000 Well, I hope so.
01:31:15.000 Would you get demonetized, do you think?
01:31:16.000 Well, you know, let me just tell YouTube what I think about that.
01:31:19.000 I hope we do.
01:31:20.000 I hope we can put it on YouTube, and I hope we get demonetized, and we'll put up a YouTube edit where we literally just, like, put up the YouTube emblem over the scenes they don't want shown and do the Charlie Brown want, want, want, want, want, want voice to the part of the people they don't want to hear.
01:31:33.000 And we'll put up a YouTube edit with a link to send people to the real thing.
01:31:36.000 Like, to hell with them.
01:31:37.000 Like, we can get around this censorship and turn it to our advantage these days.
01:31:40.000 It's very bizarre that they would choose to demonetize something that someone's legitimate opinion about a very worrisome trend.
01:31:47.000 This is something that people should discuss.
01:31:50.000 And to be able to discuss these things, especially in this wonderful world of open communication that we find ourselves in, You should be able to have both perspectives.
01:31:59.000 You should have the perspective of the queer theorists.
01:32:02.000 That's right.
01:32:03.000 And you should have the perspective of the people who say, this is where all this comes from.
01:32:07.000 That's right.
01:32:07.000 And if you don't do that, then you limit information.
01:32:10.000 And some of that information, especially the stuff that you're talking about that seems to be absolutely true and provable, you're letting that stuff go through because it opposes your ideology, and that, by definition, makes you a cult member.
01:32:26.000 Exactly, right?
01:32:27.000 So the cult—I don't know if you know who Robert Lifton is.
01:32:30.000 Robert Lifton, he's kind of weird now.
01:32:32.000 He's still alive, but he was like a—you talk about gangsters doing infiltration.
01:32:35.000 This dude was in Hong Kong in the 1950s, and he started interviewing guys that were going through Mao Zedong's brainwashing prisons.
01:32:43.000 And then when they would get thrown out of China after they'd get out of the prison after three, four years of getting brainwashed, he started interviewing them.
01:32:49.000 Like, what did Mao do?
01:32:50.000 How did he, like— Literally, the title of his book that he wrote off of this is called Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, a Study of Brainwashing in China, which is Xi now in Mandarin.
01:33:00.000 I know a little Mandarin.
01:33:01.000 And so the idea is that they were doing what Mao called ideological transformation or ideological remolding in these prisons.
01:33:08.000 And he wanted to know how it worked.
01:33:10.000 What's the psychological dynamic?
01:33:11.000 And he said there are eight primary characteristics.
01:33:13.000 And God only knows if I could rattle off eight things from memory.
01:33:16.000 But the first one is milieu control.
01:33:18.000 In other words, you have to completely control the environment of the people that are within it.
01:33:21.000 And so you can't let them have outside information.
01:33:24.000 You can't let them get near people who are raising uncomfortable questions.
01:33:27.000 You have to say that those people are a danger to what Mao called democratic centralism or we would say Joe Rogan is a danger to our democracy.
01:33:34.000 I think they said when you took ivermectin or something like that.
01:33:38.000 Right?
01:33:38.000 And so you have to control the environment people are in, and then there's other things like mystical manipulation into a sacred science and all this other – there's eight of them he has, which is finally at the end, which – it's got doctrine over person, but he calls it like the expiration – it's not the right word,
01:33:56.000 but it's the dispensing of the person.
01:34:00.000 So the people who go along with it who are in the cult are treated as people, and the people who don't go along with it Have to be treated as non-people.
01:34:09.000 And that's based – Mao Zedong gave a famous speech in 1957 where he actually said to not have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul.
01:34:18.000 So you're no better than – well, a capitalist running dogs.
01:34:21.000 You're no better than the dogs.
01:34:23.000 Well, I mean we like dogs, but you know what I mean?
01:34:25.000 He would have meant it.
01:34:26.000 So it's like you're no better than an animal if you don't go along with this.
01:34:30.000 And that's what you're saying.
01:34:32.000 That's a cult.
01:34:33.000 Yeah.
01:34:33.000 And all this bears the hallmarks of a cult.
01:34:35.000 And it feels like that is a natural pattern that humans fall into.
01:34:40.000 And I think particularly if you're not religious.
01:34:44.000 I think one of the things about religious people is they've already got their thing.
01:34:48.000 And hopefully it's one that promotes good values and it's a good thing.
01:34:53.000 But there's a part in the brain that wants that thing.
01:34:56.000 And atheists They don't have a religion, and so they find a social religion.
01:35:02.000 A social religion, that's exactly right.
01:35:04.000 That's exactly right.
01:35:05.000 So they find it in their social circumstances, politics, economics, and it always goes demonic when they do that.
01:35:10.000 I've been spending a lot of time, thanks to Charlie, primarily, Charlie Kirk, I've been spending a lot of time paying attention to the tenets of Christianity and studying it, and it's got a lot of good advice in there.
01:35:19.000 But you're 100% right that if you...
01:35:23.000 If you try to lack a religion, and the primary thing with a religion, if you lack a religion, then it'll get filled in with other things for very many people.
01:35:33.000 I think there's a small percentage of people for maybe that doesn't apply, but...
01:35:36.000 There's a spot in your brain for it.
01:35:38.000 But the thing that...
01:35:42.000 Why do they go after Christians and Jews so hard everywhere they go?
01:35:46.000 And the reason is because they are completely committed to...
01:35:50.000 They're not...
01:35:50.000 When you say, you know, they already have their thing...
01:35:53.000 For Christians and Jews, that's not how they think about God.
01:35:55.000 It's not their thing.
01:35:57.000 That's something that's above everything else.
01:35:59.000 Well, the Muslims as well.
01:36:00.000 Well, Muslims too.
01:36:01.000 But Muslims – Islam is a little bit different because it's got a political element worked into it.
01:36:06.000 And I'm not trying to like throw shade.
01:36:07.000 I'm just saying that with all – there is no – It's true.
01:36:35.000 If you're a Christian or Jew and to many – if it's not Islam, a Muslim, you're going to say, no, I have a higher duty and it's not to the state.
01:36:42.000 And if you kill me, I'm going to a better place so I don't care.
01:36:45.000 And that's the enemy of totalitarianism in a way that nothing else is.
01:36:51.000 The Confucian virtues of China don't have that.
01:36:55.000 Buddhism actually kind of doesn't have that.
01:36:58.000 Trevor Burrus Well, you can't tell the CIA this because then they're going to co-opt the churches.
01:37:01.000 Well, that's what the documentary is actually about is how the co-opting of the churches took place in the Soviet Union actually.
01:37:07.000 And so – and then how – OK. So you put it on the table.
01:37:12.000 I think that's what this whole stupid Christian nationalism thing.
01:37:14.000 I think that's part of the purpose of the Christian nationalist dialogue.
01:37:17.000 I'm not exactly a Christian nationalist.
01:37:19.000 I'm probably one of his most vocal opponents.
01:37:21.000 Trevor Burrus You think it's like agent provocateurs?
01:37:23.000 That's right.
01:37:23.000 I think that they want to recreate something that looks like Charlotteville, you know, the very fine people on both sides incident.
01:37:30.000 Or like January 6th, they get somebody to do something stupid or violent, or maybe they just run a narrative.
01:37:35.000 Well, there's always been people that when they see these well-uniformed people walking around with Nazi flags with their face covered, they're like, they're feds.
01:37:43.000 People always think that.
01:37:45.000 They always think that, which is a terrible thing to think, that your own federal government is involved in doing something to stir Right.
01:37:55.000 Right.
01:37:56.000 Right.
01:38:02.000 Right.
01:38:18.000 Hothouse for domestic extremism.
01:38:21.000 And then they start cracking down on that.
01:38:23.000 Maybe it's the FBI agents are going to church every week and they're writing down every single thing you say or every single thing you do.
01:38:29.000 Maybe it's that they start messing with the IRS status.
01:38:32.000 Maybe it's that they create other pressures with zoning or whatever else to make it so that independent churches are very difficult to do.
01:38:38.000 Because what they had in the Soviet Union, and I learned it, I actually didn't know it until the Timothy guy, the The Russian guy in the film was telling us they had what's called a registered church in the Soviet Union.
01:38:48.000 So the Soviets didn't get rid of the churches.
01:38:50.000 The Soviets created a fake church that was like Lenin, Stalin, Jesus.
01:38:57.000 They have a church in China.
01:38:58.000 It's called the Three Selfs Church right now where it's like if you see pictures of it, it's super weird.
01:39:02.000 It's like there's a cross and there's like Mao and it's like President Xi.
01:39:06.000 And it's like, what am I looking?
01:39:07.000 It's so weird.
01:39:08.000 What is it called?
01:39:09.000 The Three What?
01:39:10.000 Three Selfs Church or Three Self Church.
01:39:12.000 I'd have to remember if there's an S in it.
01:39:13.000 Oh, I need to see this.
01:39:14.000 And so they have a fake church and they funnel people into it and then they persecute everybody that's got religion outside of the fake church.
01:39:23.000 And that was really the impetus for making the film.
01:39:26.000 And we said, well, we've got to talk about the schools too.
01:39:29.000 Well, is that – what's fueling the Uyghur Muslim thing where they're – Well, communists don't like competing religions.
01:39:37.000 So they also do like slave labor and they like making examples of people to keep things under control.
01:39:43.000 So if we just take it at face value that the C in the CCP stands for communist, this is perfectly in line with the way communists behave.
01:39:51.000 That's what they would do with the Christian dissidents in the Soviet Union.
01:39:54.000 They send them to gulags where their job would be like to carve a canal out of bedrock Yeah.
01:40:14.000 Yeah.
01:40:24.000 These dissidents and send them off to Gulag.
01:40:26.000 Gulag wasn't a concentration camp like the Nazis had.
01:40:29.000 It was a re-education camp where they were trying to re-educate you through doctrine combined with hard labor.
01:40:35.000 And if you died, you died.
01:40:37.000 Jesus Christ.
01:40:40.000 And that's where communism leads to, kids.
01:40:56.000 And they let a bunch of woke protesters in and they carried on and yelled at me and were like mocking me, doing the loser sign on their faces while I was talking.
01:41:04.000 That's really effective.
01:41:05.000 It's hard to keep your train of thought while that's going on.
01:41:08.000 Yeah.
01:41:09.000 And they started cheering when I started talking about Mao so they know what it is.
01:41:12.000 And I was like, cheer for your dictator.
01:41:13.000 And they started clapping and it was like really creepy.
01:41:16.000 But then – so I did this at Northwestern and I told them something and they laughed at me.
01:41:24.000 But okay – So Mao created in the mid-1960s a thing called the Red Guard.
01:41:30.000 People all know about this.
01:41:31.000 It was young people.
01:41:32.000 It was mostly college and high school students, but it went down to little kids.
01:41:35.000 Xi Van Fleet was in China during the Red Guard, for example, and she's got that book Mao's America out talking about what that was like surviving that.
01:41:43.000 And the Red Guard went around, destroyed property, harassed, turned in people.
01:41:46.000 They ended up rounding up the sitting president of the CCP, Lu Xiaoqi, pulled him out.
01:41:52.000 He humiliated him, kicked him out to the countryside to die, right?
01:41:55.000 He came out.
01:41:56.000 He said – he's the chairman of the CCP. He comes out.
01:41:58.000 He says, am I not a citizen?
01:42:00.000 Can I not speak?
01:42:00.000 And these teenagers by the thousands were out there protesting him and said, no, you're not a citizen.
01:42:06.000 You're not a person.
01:42:07.000 You cannot speak.
01:42:07.000 And they ended up carting him off to die in the countryside.
01:42:10.000 Mao takes his power back.
01:42:11.000 So that's the end of 1967. It took about a year and a half.
01:42:15.000 So as soon as Mao gets back on the throne, we turn around in 1968, what does he do with that Red Guard that was so loyal that God admit?
01:42:22.000 Did he give him trophies?
01:42:23.000 Does he give him a spot in the party?
01:42:24.000 No.
01:42:25.000 He said the Red Guard has become too radical and too left.
01:42:28.000 So he rounded him up and sent him off to the Gulag to die.
01:42:32.000 And some of them were so brainwashed, they said shit like, going to work with the peasants in the fields will make my brain even more red as they got on the trains.
01:42:41.000 So I told these kids at Northwestern, I said, listen, You woke kids.
01:42:46.000 Cheer all you want for Mao.
01:42:47.000 This is your future.
01:42:49.000 Stability is what repels revolutions.
01:42:51.000 So if they need destabilizing forces now, that's you.
01:42:55.000 But once they destabilize things enough to take power, that's, as Mao phrased it, that's a new phase of the revolution.
01:43:01.000 That's called building socialism.
01:43:03.000 They don't need destabilizers anymore.
01:43:04.000 They got to get rid of you.
01:43:06.000 And I'm like, if you win, you get your revolution, you lose.
01:43:11.000 And I feel bad.
01:43:12.000 I honestly, I mean, I talk big, but I feel bad for these kids that got caught up in this.
01:43:17.000 Because if I'm not, if I'm right, that's their future.
01:43:20.000 It's probably a digital gulag, not a physical gulag.
01:43:23.000 Maybe they're going to have to go farm corn or something, but probably they're going to have to Yeah.
01:43:46.000 Because this whole fake carbon economy or sustainable economy that they're trying to build around it.
01:43:50.000 I think that's really...
01:43:51.000 I legit think that that's these kids' future.
01:43:53.000 They go woke, they break themselves, they go in service of revolution, and then the revolution turns around and eats them too.
01:44:00.000 Snake eating its own tail.
01:44:01.000 Jesus Christ.
01:44:02.000 And I'm like, I wish I could wake them up, but man, they're in a cult.
01:44:07.000 I seriously think they're disposable.
01:44:09.000 Enough people are going to hear what you're saying that it's going to cause a stir, and then more people are going to share it and be aware of it.
01:44:15.000 And that'll help some.
01:44:17.000 But the problem is there's not many people like you out there that are saying this in an articulate and very well-informed way where it resonates with people.
01:44:26.000 And they realize like, oh, this is what's going on.
01:44:28.000 I think I'm just trying to be a good person.
01:44:30.000 I think I'm trying to be open-minded.
01:44:32.000 I think I'm trying to be kind and compassionate.
01:44:34.000 And really, I'm in a cult.
01:44:36.000 I mean I've had it happen.
01:44:39.000 I've had it happen.
01:44:40.000 I had this one young lady at one point reach out to me and say something I said made her so mad that she went and she like blocked me on social media and then she went and spent months trying to prove that I was wrong and then ended up concluding that I was right and it de-radicalized her.
01:44:54.000 Well, the problem is people are so married to their ideas that it's almost impossible for them to look at something that is opposed to it without being angry at it or trying to pick holes at it.
01:45:05.000 Instead of just, like, objectively trying to analyze, like, is this possible that this is true?
01:45:09.000 And isn't it something that governments and dictators and kings have done throughout history?
01:45:15.000 Haven't they done things in order to initiate more power?
01:45:20.000 Haven't they had false flags?
01:45:22.000 Haven't they created conflict that wasn't real in order for them to gain more power or start wars?
01:45:28.000 Yeah, they have.
01:45:29.000 What makes us think they don't do that anymore?
01:45:31.000 And if you're doing it in this digital battlefield that we're all currently involved in, that's what you would use.
01:45:37.000 You would use social media platforms and you would control them like the FBI was trying to control Twitter.
01:45:44.000 They were infiltrating Social media organizations to suppress legitimate opinions and thoughts of actual experts.
01:45:53.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:45:54.000 And they were doing that at the behest of the government, which is fucking terrifying.
01:45:58.000 Yeah, and illegal.
01:45:59.000 But they found workarounds and, you know, this is a huge, huge risk.
01:46:05.000 But, I mean, look for these kids or whatever.
01:46:07.000 Like, let's look at three populations and say that maybe this will wake somebody up.
01:46:12.000 How are they going to treat you?
01:46:13.000 So the three populations are the revolutionaries themselves, the communists.
01:46:17.000 We'll just look historically and then, say, American classical liberals, right, and then Christians.
01:46:22.000 So what's going to happen?
01:46:23.000 So you go woke, right, and you're in this and then the revolution succeeds.
01:46:27.000 What have communists always historically done?
01:46:29.000 They always eat their own.
01:46:31.000 Yuri Beznamov says that too, right?
01:46:33.000 He says, don't deal with those political prostitutes.
01:46:35.000 They know too much.
01:46:36.000 We'll line them up against the wall and shoot them.
01:46:37.000 That's what he says.
01:46:40.000 Your chances are bad at best under the revolution.
01:46:43.000 What are good old Americans going to do if you come out of being woke?
01:46:51.000 Actually, we don't have to talk about the revolution.
01:46:53.000 What are other woke people going to do to you if you stop being woke?
01:46:56.000 They're going to treat you like a traitor.
01:46:57.000 We're good to go.
01:47:18.000 If there are Christians who are Christians – I mean I know that there's these Christian fascist dudes who are thinking they can pound their chest and like be big tough guys.
01:47:26.000 But even the other Christians are like that's not biblically sound.
01:47:29.000 Like Jesus didn't do that.
01:47:31.000 So it's like the woke are going to treat you like crap if you leave.
01:47:35.000 So you're locked in.
01:47:37.000 If you come over and be an American, again, just a normal American dude, we're going to be like, cool, welcome back.
01:47:43.000 And the Christians are, if you go and, like, repent of your errors or whatever and you decide to convert, are going to be like, they're going to celebrate you.
01:47:49.000 They're going to be like, praise God.
01:47:51.000 It's night and day different.
01:47:53.000 So revolutionaries destroy their own, and everybody else, like you're saying, like, just normal people who value, like, what productive thing can you do?
01:48:02.000 Love you.
01:48:03.000 Great.
01:48:03.000 Welcome.
01:48:05.000 Are completely the other story.
01:48:07.000 Well, that's an ideology to live your life by.
01:48:10.000 The problem is if that ideology gets manipulated by the people in power as well, it's all dangerous.
01:48:16.000 It's all dangerous because it's just what human beings do when they get into power.
01:48:20.000 And if there was a radical right-wing religious sect that was in control of this country, we'd be just as scared as if there's a radical left-wing Progressive, woke organization like there is currently.
01:48:37.000 Joe, that's the history of the 1930s right there in Europe.
01:48:40.000 You had the communists who were screwing everything up and everybody was scared of the radical left.
01:48:44.000 And what was their answer was fascism.
01:48:46.000 I read all this Mussolini a couple of months ago.
01:48:48.000 I was like, well, I better read the other side.
01:48:50.000 And I'm like, this guy, he's supposed to be the answer, but he's making an idol of the state.
01:48:54.000 Like the state is God in both situations.
01:48:57.000 And who are you?
01:48:58.000 You're a subject is who you are.
01:49:01.000 Yeah.
01:49:01.000 You know, my friend Duncan Trussell, when the George Floyd riots were happening in California, he was like, dude, we're going to get a radical right wing president.
01:49:10.000 That was his thought.
01:49:11.000 It's like, this is what's scary to me.
01:49:13.000 That's scary to me, too.
01:49:18.000 When Christians, the really crazy ones that you're talking about that don't represent the actual teachings of Christ, when those people think that there's like a holy war that they're a part of, and that they have to oppose all the other people, and they're the ones who get to enforce the rules,
01:49:33.000 and they're the ones who get to enforce what people say and can't do, and if you say, God damn it, you go to jail for a year, that kind of shit's real.
01:49:41.000 It is.
01:49:41.000 And that's what you see in some countries that have radical Islam.
01:49:45.000 That's what you see in some countries that Aren't open societies, air quotes.
01:49:50.000 Well, I mean legitimately ones, not George Soros' weird fantasy about it.
01:49:55.000 So it's like that's so important for people to understand because the line – Solzhenitsyn said the line of good and evil cuts through every human heart, but so does the line of tyranny.
01:50:08.000 Well, I think.
01:50:35.000 Well, especially if you can get the radical left to behave in a way that was completely opposed to what the radical left was like 20 years ago.
01:50:44.000 The full trust of the pharmaceutical drug companies, support of the military industrial complex, support of international wars, as long as they're being supported by the Democrats.
01:50:54.000 Huge banks.
01:50:56.000 It's like, I'm sure Larry Fink has best of intentions, you know?
01:50:59.000 It's like, what are you talking...
01:51:01.000 Was Larry Fink...
01:51:02.000 No, Larry Silverstein was the guy who owned the big conspiracy theory about World Trade Center, Tower 7. Oh, yeah, something like that.
01:51:10.000 No, Larry Fink owns BlackRock.
01:51:12.000 Right, that's right.
01:51:13.000 Yeah.
01:51:14.000 I get my Larrys confused.
01:51:15.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot of Larrys.
01:51:18.000 The idea that we could live in this world where if this stuff takes over, that eventually they don't come for you is so silly.
01:51:26.000 They eat their own.
01:51:28.000 It keeps going further and further down what you thought was acceptable.
01:51:32.000 And it changes the norms.
01:51:34.000 And it just keeps going.
01:51:35.000 It's just like with ESG. They can change the rules tomorrow.
01:51:38.000 The real danger of ESG isn't that it's...
01:52:04.000 Oh, yeah.
01:52:08.000 There in May, at the end of May, they are, the WHO is meeting, it's some kind of an assembly, and they are deciding upon whether or not the WHO will have total, they just screwed up one pandemic, and now they say that they need to have total control of pandemic preparedness and public health.
01:52:26.000 But the thing is, it's not even just about diseases, right?
01:52:30.000 Because we know about, like, they screwed up COVID. It was total global tyranny.
01:52:34.000 Imagine if they had the power where there is no Florida.
01:52:36.000 There's no free state.
01:52:37.000 There's no difference between Texas and California.
01:52:39.000 It's all whatever the World Health Organization says.
01:52:42.000 There's no difference between Florida and Canada.
01:52:44.000 Or there's no Sweden, which, you know, did something different.
01:52:47.000 Everything has to be on the same page.
01:52:49.000 But then they go further and they declare other things matters of public health.
01:52:53.000 Like gun violence is a public health threat, racial injustice, inadequate food systems.
01:53:00.000 It's literally a recipe for them to be able to declare total tyranny, but particularly over matters, anything that they can skew as a public health.
01:53:11.000 And so one of the things that they consider to be another kind of pandemic that's a public health risk is misinformation and disinformation.
01:53:19.000 So it explicitly calls for censorship of what would be misinformation and disinformation.
01:53:24.000 So now all of these 193 or whatever it is countries are supposed to sign over to the World Health Organization the ability through a treaty that's I'm not being ratified in the Senate like a treaty.
01:53:37.000 Probably Joe Biden will do it as an executive agreement rather than as passing two-thirds majority in the Senate.
01:53:44.000 So we have this treaty now that hands over the control of the states and of the United States as a federal entity to the World Health Organization, which is led by – I mean Tedros is openly a Marxist, so like what the hell is going on with that?
01:53:59.000 Where they have this total blanket control over anything they can declare public health, including misinformation and disinformation.
01:54:05.000 One of the things they say, and I don't know if it's in the proposal or if it's in the documentation around it, is that we have a pandemic of too much information.
01:54:16.000 We have to limit how much information that people actually are getting.
01:54:19.000 And this is like – that's like living in China.
01:54:24.000 This is proposed.
01:54:26.000 Has any country signed off on this?
01:54:28.000 I think Canada is like already gung-ho on it.
01:54:30.000 But I think the – I don't know exactly how it works.
01:54:32.000 But I think the meeting is at the end of May and there is no full signing off until the meeting at the end of May.
01:54:37.000 So we got like 11 weeks to – for example, if we could get – just make it through whatever congress or whatever apparatuses where it has to be ratified in the United States as a treaty according to the constitution, it's dead in the water for the US because the United States – two-thirds of the senators are not going to go for this unless we're in a lot bigger trouble than I think we are.
01:55:00.000 50-50 would.
01:55:01.000 Who the fuck is going to go for that?
01:55:04.000 Joe Biden.
01:55:06.000 Or whoever tells Joe Biden what to go for.
01:55:08.000 Yeah, whoever gives Joe Biden his shots.
01:55:09.000 What do you think cocktail they got him on when he goes and gives those speeches?
01:55:13.000 I don't know, but it's got to be something good.
01:55:16.000 I want to know.
01:55:18.000 I really want to know.
01:55:20.000 I want to know what he's doing.
01:55:21.000 Dude, I'm barely catching up to you on baby IVs of NAD+. I'm not ready for these cocktails.
01:55:26.000 Well, I mean, whatever they give him...
01:55:29.000 It must be extraordinary because you could tell he's ramped up.
01:55:32.000 Oh, yeah, totally ramped up.
01:55:33.000 Yeah, he's ramped up.
01:55:35.000 And otherwise doesn't know where he is.
01:55:36.000 It's so strange.
01:55:38.000 It's one of my favorite – you know, Trump, whatever else, he's funny.
01:55:41.000 One of the favorite things – no, maybe not.
01:55:43.000 But top five favorite things he ever said was – he was in an interview and they said, well, what do you think Joe Biden thinks?
01:55:48.000 And he said, Joe Biden doesn't know he's alive on TV. It was the funniest thing.
01:55:53.000 Oh, Trump's hilarious.
01:55:54.000 He does speeches and he does stand-up in them.
01:55:57.000 Where he did, like, his impression of Joe Biden not knowing where to go?
01:56:01.000 Have you seen that?
01:56:02.000 No.
01:56:03.000 You gotta see this bit.
01:56:04.000 Because I swear to God, it's like a fucking comic.
01:56:06.000 He's doing this impression of Joe Biden.
01:56:08.000 He always does this thing.
01:56:10.000 He always does this thing.
01:56:11.000 Like, you watch him, you're like, the guy's a comic.
01:56:14.000 He's hilarious.
01:56:15.000 Well, he's been on TV forever.
01:56:17.000 He knows how to shoot back.
01:56:19.000 He knows how to talk shit.
01:56:21.000 He knows zingers.
01:56:22.000 He knows how to work a crowd.
01:56:24.000 So you think about it.
01:56:25.000 If he is a smart man, regardless of what you think about him, you gotta realize the guy's been very successful, right?
01:56:31.000 Yeah.
01:56:32.000 Don't lie.
01:56:33.000 So this guy has also hosted The Apprentice forever.
01:56:36.000 He's been on television forever.
01:56:37.000 And then he goes on tour.
01:56:40.000 So he starts doing stand-up essentially for four years.
01:56:44.000 He's been doing stand-up without the job as the president, or at least three years.
01:56:49.000 And then before that, there was four years during the time he was president, he's kind of doing stand-up.
01:56:54.000 And then before that, it's a year and a half that he's running for president that he's kind of doing stand-up.
01:56:59.000 So you've basically got a guy, he's been doing stand-up for nine years.
01:57:04.000 Put this on.
01:57:05.000 Put it on for the beginning.
01:57:06.000 But if I walk left, there's a stair.
01:57:09.000 And if I walk right, there's a stair.
01:57:12.000 And this guy gets up.
01:57:15.000 Where am I? I mean, he's fucking doing stand-up.
01:57:30.000 So now new records are being set, like gasoline.
01:57:33.000 Gavin has become crooked Joe Biden's top surrogate, I think, because he doesn't think Biden's going to make it.
01:57:40.000 That's why he's doing it.
01:57:41.000 He doesn't think he's going to make it, and it won't be him so easy.
01:57:45.000 He's going to have a big fight.
01:57:47.000 However, because there will be a lot of Democrats competing, it's going to be very interesting.
01:57:52.000 But let's see.
01:57:53.000 Look, some people say Biden's going to make it.
01:57:55.000 Does anybody think he's going to make it to the starting gate?
01:58:00.000 I mean, the guy can't find his way off of a stage.
01:58:03.000 Look, here's the stage.
01:58:05.000 But it goes a little further than that.
01:58:07.000 I've never seen this stupid stage before, right?
01:58:09.000 I've never seen it.
01:58:11.000 But if I walk left, there's a stair.
01:58:15.000 And if I walk right, there's a stair.
01:58:17.000 And this guy gets up.
01:58:20.000 Where am I? Where the hell am I? Where am I? Nah,
01:58:39.000 he's terrible.
01:58:41.000 You know, I'm much tougher on him than I used to be.
01:58:43.000 Out of respect for the office, I was never like.
01:58:45.000 He's the most corrupt president, the most incompetent president we've ever had.
01:58:49.000 But when they indicted me, and then again and again and again, I was never indicted.
01:58:54.000 Now I'm setting records.
01:58:55.000 Al Capone!
01:58:58.000 Was not indicted so much.
01:59:00.000 Alphonse Capote.
01:59:02.000 If you looked at Al Capone in the wrong way, he'd kill you.
01:59:05.000 He was not indicted like me.
01:59:08.000 I was never indicted.
01:59:09.000 I didn't know.
01:59:10.000 When they taught me at the Wharton School of Finance, they didn't talk about indictment.
01:59:15.000 No, it's a disgrace what's happening.
01:59:17.000 They've weaponized elections.
01:59:18.000 They've done everything.
01:59:19.000 I mean, these are very bad people.
01:59:20.000 But I used to talk relatively nicely about them.
01:59:23.000 I wouldn't go out of my way.
01:59:24.000 I wouldn't say the things I say now.
01:59:26.000 Now I'm just all in because these people are bad and they're dangerous.
01:59:31.000 And we have to stop him.
01:59:33.000 OK, that's not it.
01:59:34.000 There's a thing where he does a thing about – he's probably doing it at multiple speeches.
01:59:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:59:38.000 When he talks about – he's like pointing at somewhere.
01:59:41.000 Yeah.
01:59:43.000 But it's like – I don't know.
01:59:44.000 That Wharton thing was pretty good too.
01:59:45.000 It's pretty funny.
01:59:46.000 It is kind of crazy how many times they've indicted him.
01:59:49.000 Yeah.
01:59:49.000 It's pretty wild.
01:59:50.000 I actually hear like I fly a lot.
01:59:52.000 I'm on planes a lot and sometimes people talk and they like – I've heard several times people are like, well, I'm a Democrat.
01:59:58.000 But I don't – like why does this keep happening?
02:00:00.000 Yeah.
02:00:00.000 It's kind of crazy because it seems like what happens in Banana Republics.
02:00:05.000 But just somehow or another it's okay?
02:00:08.000 The exact same thing?
02:00:10.000 Well, because protecting democracy.
02:00:12.000 Well, did you see when that guy from Shark Tank, Kevin O'Leary, when he was discussing this whole thing?
02:00:19.000 It's like you're going to ruin real estate development in New York.
02:00:23.000 People are not going to want to do real estate deals there.
02:00:25.000 Because this is how they do it.
02:00:27.000 When they say, my building is worth $400 million, you're supposed to say, no, it's worth $300 million.
02:00:33.000 Here's a loan on $300 million.
02:00:35.000 To say that that's fraud when he paid the loans back, that is the epitome of what are you doing?
02:00:43.000 What are you chasing?
02:00:44.000 And what have you not chased?
02:00:46.000 What have you not chased down?
02:00:48.000 Can we go over what you have not chased down?
02:00:50.000 And you're chasing this down.
02:00:51.000 Is it possible that you're doing this because this guy's running for president?
02:00:54.000 Right.
02:00:55.000 Because it kind of seems like it to the world.
02:00:56.000 Yeah, it looks real...
02:00:58.000 It looks real like that.
02:00:59.000 It looks real like you're trying to prosecute your political opponents.
02:01:04.000 With these gigantic...
02:01:05.000 Letitia James with these gigantic, you know...
02:01:08.000 I don't even know what it is, a settlement.
02:01:09.000 It's not a settlement.
02:01:11.000 360-something million dollars?
02:01:12.000 That's insane.
02:01:13.000 It's a lot of money.
02:01:14.000 That's a lot of money.
02:01:14.000 For someone that...
02:01:15.000 Where does it go?
02:01:16.000 Because there's no victims.
02:01:18.000 Right, exactly.
02:01:18.000 That's a problem.
02:01:19.000 Like, Elon tweeted that.
02:01:20.000 Yeah.
02:01:20.000 It's like, okay, where does it go?
02:01:22.000 It goes to her brag sheet is where it goes.
02:01:24.000 Well, it's just kind of bonkers.
02:01:25.000 And then you get the fucking Georgia one with that fanny lady.
02:01:28.000 Yeah.
02:01:29.000 The lady's in trouble.
02:01:30.000 She's in trouble.
02:01:32.000 She's in hot water.
02:01:33.000 She's in real trouble.
02:01:34.000 She's in real trouble.
02:01:36.000 I was actually in Fulton County the day where Trump came in and got indicted and did his mugshot or whatever.
02:01:42.000 It was pretty wild.
02:01:43.000 I mean, it's just nothing.
02:01:44.000 There's not a story, but I was there.
02:01:46.000 Not at the courthouse.
02:01:47.000 I was just nearby.
02:01:49.000 And I was like, holy shit, I came here on this day, like, of all days.
02:01:52.000 But, yeah, she's in trouble.
02:01:53.000 She's host.
02:01:54.000 Yeah.
02:01:54.000 The whole story is amazing, though.
02:01:56.000 To see her on the trial getting sassy.
02:02:01.000 To see her on the stand getting sassy and to see that her explanation was cash.
02:02:07.000 She keeps a lot of cash around the house.
02:02:08.000 Like, where did you get this cash?
02:02:09.000 Yeah, really.
02:02:10.000 Why do you have so much cash to pay for all these vacations and all that?
02:02:13.000 You paid them back?
02:02:14.000 Okay.
02:02:15.000 Yeah.
02:02:16.000 What?
02:02:18.000 It's like a little kid's explanation.
02:02:21.000 Oh, I paid them back in cash that I just had laying around.
02:02:25.000 I just happened to have it, you know.
02:02:27.000 With the idea that it's a black thing, too.
02:02:29.000 That's what I was going to say.
02:02:30.000 Keep cash around.
02:02:31.000 They tried to come out and say, well, this is, you know, they're scrutinizing her because she's a black woman.
02:02:37.000 This is encouraging, though, because like two years ago, I think that would have worked.
02:02:41.000 And now it's like people are like, stop.
02:02:43.000 The other thing she tried was, I am not about to emasculate a black man.
02:02:48.000 What does that mean?
02:02:48.000 That is not an answer to a question.
02:02:50.000 That is not an answer.
02:02:51.000 But that's a way to throw up that race card and see if you can get out of this question.
02:02:54.000 That's right.
02:02:55.000 Get out of jail free.
02:02:56.000 Emasculate a black man.
02:02:57.000 He just happens to be black.
02:02:58.000 We're just talking about what you did with the money.
02:03:00.000 Yeah.
02:03:01.000 It doesn't matter who the people are, just who did the money.
02:03:04.000 What the fuck happened here?
02:03:06.000 What's going on?
02:03:07.000 I call it the iron law of woke corruption.
02:03:09.000 It's so wild.
02:03:11.000 Totally.
02:03:11.000 It's so wild to see.
02:03:14.000 It's just very strange.
02:03:15.000 And it's very...
02:03:16.000 Here's what drives me crazy.
02:03:18.000 Like, how is all this...
02:03:22.000 DEI stuff.
02:03:23.000 Getting into airplanes.
02:03:26.000 Yeah.
02:03:27.000 Isn't that scary as hell?
02:03:29.000 Isn't United run by a drag queen?
02:03:31.000 Well, he did do that.
02:03:33.000 Scott Kirby is the guy's name, which sucks because I fly on United a lot.
02:03:38.000 Yeah.
02:03:40.000 But don't you want the absolute best people regardless of their sexual orientation, their gender, their color, their race, the very best people that you can get to fly the fucking planes?
02:03:51.000 I do.
02:03:52.000 And fix the fucking planes.
02:03:53.000 Wouldn't you like, I'd like, it'd be sweet if we had the best people for the job.
02:03:58.000 You want to put the tinfoil hat back on?
02:03:59.000 I got an explanation.
02:04:00.000 Okay.
02:04:00.000 Okay, so earlier I said that the goal is to de-grow The West and facilitate China's rise.
02:04:08.000 OK, so what's happening?
02:04:10.000 Boeing 737, Boeing 737, Boeing, Boeing, Boeing.
02:04:14.000 We see all this DEI stuff at Boeing.
02:04:15.000 We see all these problems.
02:04:17.000 We just see this guy that committed suicide.
02:04:20.000 The whistleblower?
02:04:20.000 The whistleblower against Boeing, who was saying some deep stuff like that they were intentionally fitting bogus parts.
02:04:26.000 I don't know if this is true, but that's what he was alleging.
02:04:30.000 And then all of a sudden he decided it was a good day to kill himself right before his deposition he was supposed to go to.
02:04:35.000 And so, I mean it's weird timing.
02:04:40.000 What's – he's saying that Boeing could be construed, let's suggest, as though it's deliberately committing suicide as an organization.
02:04:50.000 It's cutting corners.
02:04:52.000 It's locked in by this ESG, DEI stuff.
02:04:55.000 That's – the easy question is why is DEI? Because ESG. It's the S in ESG. But little do most Americans realize in addition to scaring the hell out of people and getting people to fly less – China just released a new jet two years ago called the Comac C919 that is a direct competitor to the Boeing 737. So maybe you kill Boeing and you allow American manufacturing of high-quality aircraft to fall and
02:05:25.000 then the Chinese competitor is now the thing on the market that doesn't have this bad rap sheet and this risk factor.
02:05:32.000 Maybe it's big, dirty international business that's actually happening.
02:05:36.000 Nobody knows about the COMAC because how much do we pay attention to Chinese stuff?
02:05:41.000 They literally, it launched last year for commercial production.
02:05:45.000 That seems like such a hat you're wearing.
02:05:48.000 I know.
02:05:48.000 Made of tin foil.
02:05:49.000 I know.
02:05:50.000 But the problem is that's how ESG works.
02:05:53.000 The degrowth strategy of the West and the trap.
02:05:56.000 But someone at Boeing must know this is going on and why would they ever allow that to happen if they're a corporation and they have shareholders?
02:06:06.000 Oh, but we're exiting shareholder capitalism for stakeholder capitalism now.
02:06:10.000 In other words, to answer to the ESG cartel, they are, I mean the Harvard document, this Harvard corporate law document that I was talking about earlier explicitly says that your governance score can go up for giving yourself corporate bonuses for installing ESG. So you're the CEO,
02:06:28.000 you're the C-suite of Boeing, and you're like, well, my business is going to get attacked on the market.
02:06:35.000 It's going to be hard to get lines of capital through these banks unless I'm ESG compliant, and I get a gigantic bonus if I'm ESG compliant.
02:06:44.000 Well, let's just be ESG compliant.
02:06:46.000 ESG compliant starts telling you you have all of these expensive regulations that you have to go through and you have all of these DEI social justice things you have to install, all these administrators you have to hire, commissars you have to hire, DEI officers,
02:07:02.000 ESG officers.
02:07:04.000 Those are like six, seven figure jobs.
02:07:06.000 So you have all this stuff.
02:07:07.000 So what is it to cut corners on the cost a little bit to pull a broken piece out of the scrap and screw it onto the back of an airplane?
02:07:14.000 Or to hire people who are not really, like they don't know what an impact wrench is, but they'll figure it out on the tail portion of a 737 in a moment.
02:07:25.000 So you hear the left saying it's corporate corner cutting.
02:07:28.000 It's corporate corner cutting.
02:07:29.000 It's profits over everything.
02:07:30.000 But what if the market that they're running in is actually controlled in this ESG sense to where they have very few options and they get to reward themselves for installing it and are punished if they don't?
02:07:41.000 And I will wear this.
02:07:42.000 I will put the biggest – let's fold a tricorn Revolutionary War tinfoil hat and go, Joe.
02:07:49.000 Let's go.
02:07:49.000 Yeah, that's what I'm looking at now.
02:07:50.000 I'm looking at one of them sailboat-looking things.
02:07:52.000 Hell yes.
02:07:53.000 Yeah.
02:07:55.000 But that would mean they're intentionally destroying a company by sabotage and by a slow infiltration of these ideas to the point where you can get them to fit inferior parts on an aircraft.
02:08:16.000 That doesn't – it seems like there's got to be inspectors, right?
02:08:20.000 So the inspectors must be watching.
02:08:21.000 That's part of the scandal.
02:08:22.000 That's what this guy that committed suicide – What is he saying?
02:08:25.000 That's what he was saying, is that they were not inspecting correctly.
02:08:28.000 And then part of the video that went viral of him talking was, Yeah.
02:08:39.000 Yeah.
02:08:43.000 Yeah.
02:08:43.000 Yeah.
02:08:47.000 So embarrassed by the fact that he incorrectly said that Boeing was an evil corporation that he decided to take his own life because he knew that Boeing was amazing and that he had genuinely done a terrible thing, so he decided to take his life.
02:09:00.000 Yeah, that's a plausible explanation.
02:09:02.000 That seems most likely.
02:09:04.000 Yeah.
02:09:04.000 Because the other possibility is they killed him because he's telling the truth and there was going to be a problem.
02:09:10.000 That's a dark story right there.
02:09:11.000 The dark story is that they killed him because if he's dead, then they make billions of dollars.
02:09:17.000 And if he's alive, he could fuck them up and cause the stock to crash and all kinds of other problems to happen and a lot of investigations and all kinds of other stuff, if he's right.
02:09:26.000 Have you heard of this thing, degrowth, by the way?
02:09:28.000 No, I haven't.
02:09:30.000 Do we have that video of that?
02:09:31.000 I want to hear it, though.
02:09:32.000 I want to hear about this degrowth thing.
02:09:34.000 Because this is also a 4D chest that scares the shit out of me.
02:09:37.000 It scares the shit out of me to think that there really is a puppet master.
02:09:40.000 Or group.
02:09:41.000 Yeah, a committee, probably.
02:09:43.000 Council.
02:09:44.000 Soviet means council.
02:09:45.000 Yeah.
02:09:46.000 But that it's actually effective.
02:09:48.000 But then if you think about who the actual president is, you know he's not in charge.
02:09:52.000 So, well, who is it then?
02:09:54.000 We've agreed to let a bunch of people that we're not exactly sure who they are run the country.
02:09:58.000 And once you get that sort of a system in place, They'll do whatever the fuck they can to make sure that they keep that.
02:10:05.000 Because they can just keep him in there alive for four more years.
02:10:10.000 He's going to be even crazier three years from now.
02:10:12.000 People should look up the Council for Inclusive Capitalism while they're wearing their tinfoil hats.
02:10:17.000 I almost want him to be president for three more years just for stand-up.
02:10:20.000 Well, there is that.
02:10:21.000 I mean, I don't know how much longer he can go.
02:10:24.000 There he is.
02:10:25.000 Yeah, so let's listen to this guy.
02:10:30.000 One, this is not a 737 problem.
02:10:32.000 It's a Boeing problem.
02:10:33.000 And I know the FAA's gone in and they've done due diligence and inspections to assure that the door plugs of the 737 are installed properly and the fasteners are stored properly.
02:10:46.000 But my concern is, what's the rest of the airplane?
02:10:49.000 What's the rest of the condition of the airplane?
02:10:51.000 And the reason my concern for that is back in 2012, Boeing started removing inspection operations off their jobs.
02:11:00.000 So it left the mechanics to buy off their own work.
02:11:03.000 So what we're seeing with the door plug blowout is what I've seen with the rest of the airplane as far as jobs not being completed properly, inspection steps being removed, We're good to go.
02:11:38.000 Put a strong effort into removing quality from the process.
02:11:42.000 When I first started working at Charleston, I was in charge with pushing back defects to our suppliers.
02:11:47.000 And what that meant was I'd take a group of inspectors and actually go to the supplier and inspect their product before they sent it in.
02:11:56.000 Well, I'd taken a team of four inspectors to Spirit Aerosystems to inspect the 41 section before they sent it to Charleston.
02:12:03.000 And we found 300 defects.
02:12:05.000 Some of them were When I returned to Charleston, my senior manager told me that we had found too many defects and he was going to take the next trip.
02:12:19.000 So the next trip he went on, he took two of my inspectors and when they got back they were given accolades for only finding 50 defects.
02:12:27.000 So I pulled that inspector aside and I said, did Spirit really Clean up their act that quick?
02:12:32.000 That don't sound right.
02:12:34.000 And she was mad.
02:12:35.000 She said no.
02:12:36.000 Said the two inspectors were given two hours to inspect the whole 41 section and they were kicked off the airplane.
02:12:43.000 Wow.
02:12:44.000 Yeah.
02:12:45.000 Yeah, so there are inspectors, sort of.
02:12:48.000 Well, that sounds like a money thing, right?
02:12:50.000 They're saying that quality is overhead.
02:12:53.000 Yeah, well, that's profits.
02:12:55.000 His first whistleblower statement was made in 2017, I think.
02:12:59.000 Yeah, he was doing like a deposition or something the other day when he was found dead in his car in the parking lot of a hotel.
02:13:07.000 But you said the profit thing there.
02:13:09.000 So I mentioned the Comac C919. That's the direct competitor Chinese manufacturer, new Chinese manufacturer to the 737. Well, there's a Comac 929 as well, which is a direct competitor to the 777 and 787. And the 787 is the other one that you just mentioned.
02:13:29.000 I don't know if you've heard of degrowth.
02:13:32.000 And degrowth is actually a model that kind of can avoid being communist.
02:13:40.000 But I read this book called Marx and the Anthropocene by this Japanese Marxist named Kohei Saito.
02:13:45.000 And it's called Toward the Idea of a Degrowth Communism.
02:13:48.000 And it talks about how what we need to do is It matches the Marxists of the 60s, by the way, is that what capitalists need to do, Americans, capitalism needs to shrink.
02:13:58.000 We produce too much stuff that nobody really needs.
02:14:01.000 So what we need to do – well, I'll just tell you what Herbert Marcuse said in the 60s was socialism has the right ideology, but it can't produce.
02:14:09.000 So we have to figure out how to make a productive socialism.
02:14:11.000 And I'm arguing that's what happened in China.
02:14:12.000 They figured out the code.
02:14:14.000 Well, how?
02:14:15.000 By opening up a kind of Potemkin market that the government really controls.
02:14:18.000 Well, then on the other hand, he said, well, capitalism – His own words were, it delivers the goods.
02:14:25.000 However, it's not sustainable.
02:14:28.000 It makes too much stuff, too much junk.
02:14:31.000 And so what we need is a reduction in our standard of living, a reduction in our amount of stuff, a reduction in energy and everything in the West.
02:14:40.000 And if you could somehow figure out how to make a more sustainable capitalism, then you're off to the races.
02:14:47.000 So what I was saying earlier is that when Kissinger and Brzezinski and Deng and Chan and Rockefeller were meeting, They were erecting the idea of this productive socialism for China, for China to take off with a Potemkin-contained market.
02:15:04.000 Meanwhile, eventually, the West would have to degrow so that we could have a system that's not going to outstrip the world's resources.
02:15:11.000 This is at a time when limits to growth from the Club of Rome was really big and really hot.
02:15:15.000 Klaus Schwab put that, platformed it at the World Economic Forum in 73. These guys are still around.
02:15:21.000 Paul Ehrlich and his population bomb was like a big thing.
02:15:24.000 And so these guys were thinking along these terms, and it was how do we degrow the West?
02:15:29.000 And so what I think we're looking at is, well, there's a Chinese manufacturer that can rise while the American manufacturer shrinks.
02:15:35.000 America might not be able to make its own jets, but we can buy them from China.
02:15:38.000 And China becomes more and more secure as the manufacturer from the world.
02:15:42.000 Meanwhile, the Degrowth Initiative, there's this program or this research program That was called UK Fires, F-I-R-E-S, like fire, right?
02:15:52.000 And this was Oxford University, Cambridge, the government, the British government.
02:15:57.000 This is serious.
02:15:58.000 And so this thing that came out, published in 2019, was called Absolute Zero.
02:16:04.000 It's not called Net Zero.
02:16:05.000 It's Absolute Zero.
02:16:07.000 And it says that Net Zero is not enough.
02:16:09.000 We are not going to save the climate change problem if we only go for net zero carbon emissions.
02:16:13.000 We have to go to absolute zero carbon emissions.
02:16:16.000 And so it openly says, what are the initiatives?
02:16:19.000 No new concrete production.
02:16:20.000 No new steel manufacturing.
02:16:22.000 No container shipping.
02:16:24.000 I mean, you can actually look on the document and see.
02:16:26.000 It's like zero by 2050. But it also says no fossil fuels and no air travel by 2050. Zero.
02:16:34.000 Absolutely zero air travel by 2050. What?
02:16:38.000 And so how do you get to zero air travel by 2050?
02:16:41.000 How do you create a massive reduction?
02:16:44.000 Well, what else is going on besides the Chinese market go up?
02:16:47.000 Boeing look bad.
02:16:49.000 Media, of course, is amplifying stories that are pretty routine.
02:16:52.000 Little things go wrong with aircraft all the time.
02:16:54.000 I've taken off a few times, you know, a flap or something gets stuck.
02:16:57.000 We have to turn around and land and they have to fix it.
02:16:59.000 This is national news when it happens.
02:17:01.000 So they're creating this image that is really scary.
02:17:03.000 But what are the airlines doing at the same time?
02:17:05.000 What is the new aircraft?
02:17:07.000 Have you heard of the boom supersonic?
02:17:10.000 Made in Colorado.
02:17:11.000 So it's like the new Concorde.
02:17:12.000 Right.
02:17:13.000 Well, you can't fly those over land.
02:17:15.000 Those are transatlantic only, right?
02:17:16.000 So the UK fire thing actually says no domestic flights whatsoever, but international travel will be reserved.
02:17:21.000 Well, it turns out the Boom Supersonic is a Concorde replacement.
02:17:24.000 It's really, really fuel efficient.
02:17:26.000 It's really well designed.
02:17:27.000 Not going to throw shade at it.
02:17:29.000 So its operating costs are approximately similar to like a 777 or a 747, right, for the same distance.
02:17:36.000 The Concorde was a disaster in terms of how inefficient it was.
02:17:40.000 So now you have, by 2029, 140-something, 150, something like that, orders for the boom supersonic.
02:17:46.000 So they're planning on flying boom supersonics internationally, but the bigger one seats 60 and the smaller one seats 45. Well, a 747 or a 767 might seat 360. So that's either six or eight times as many people flying at roughly the same operation cost.
02:18:03.000 So you do the math and the tickets are going to go up by six to eight times over.
02:18:07.000 That's not a difficult calculation to figure out if they want to make the same profit, which means who's flying?
02:18:13.000 People who can pay eight times as much for a plane ticket or who's flying?
02:18:17.000 Nobody else is flying.
02:18:18.000 So what you end up doing is, for the sake of the climate, you degrow commercial travel that's going to kill off a ton of business, but you don't need that.
02:18:24.000 You can do it by Zoom.
02:18:25.000 Wouldn't this podcast be so much more engaging if we were on Zoom screens?
02:18:28.000 Wouldn't we be having a great time and great relationship?
02:18:31.000 Have you ever watched Zoom?
02:18:33.000 I do a ton of them.
02:18:35.000 So I watch these interviews on Zoom.
02:18:36.000 It's like...
02:18:38.000 Five minutes in and I'm having like suicidal ideation.
02:18:40.000 Like, do I really have to watch this?
02:18:42.000 I don't really have suicidal ideation.
02:18:43.000 My God, I'm going to get a million things.
02:18:44.000 I'm just kidding.
02:18:45.000 It's a joke.
02:18:46.000 It's a joke.
02:18:47.000 I'm going to stare down the camera.
02:18:49.000 You're funny you have to say that now?
02:18:51.000 Dude, if you make a like...
02:18:53.000 I swear to God, if I have to watch one more Zoom, if I have to be on one more Zoom call this week, I'm going to KMS, right?
02:18:59.000 If you say that on any social media, you start getting emails that are like, suicide hotline prevention, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:19:05.000 But it used to be a thing that people just said.
02:19:08.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:19:09.000 If this movie doesn't end soon, I'm going to kill myself.
02:19:10.000 It's fun.
02:19:11.000 Yeah, like nobody's going to kill themselves because a movie went 45 minutes too long.
02:19:15.000 But no, I think this degrowth thing is serious.
02:19:18.000 What's it called?
02:19:19.000 The Monthly Review, Monthly Standard, one of these.
02:19:22.000 It's a socialist magazine.
02:19:23.000 Publish this article about degrowth.
02:19:25.000 And they have their drawing of what it's supposed to look like.
02:19:28.000 And it's supposed to go down to this thing that Klaus Schwab talks about called a circular economy.
02:19:31.000 Bill Gates talks about a circular economy.
02:19:33.000 But literally their drawing is a spiral down to this little circle in the middle.
02:19:37.000 It looks like you're society going down the drain.
02:19:40.000 And it's like...
02:19:41.000 How do you not make fun of this?
02:19:42.000 But I think that they're very serious to try to shrink the economy.
02:19:46.000 And I have my tinfoil hat, but I can tell you why that's the strategy also.
02:19:51.000 And it's to avoid the war.
02:19:53.000 It's to avoid China rising.
02:19:56.000 This is that Thucydides trap.
02:19:57.000 We've kind of started there.
02:19:59.000 Thucydides trap was the idea that when you have a rising power, in that case from Thucydides it was Sparta, going up against an existing power, which would be Athens.
02:20:08.000 In our day though, it's China and the United States.
02:20:10.000 If the thing rises...
02:20:12.000 Eventually it's going to try to get regional or in this case global dominance.
02:20:16.000 China's going to try to become, when it becomes strong enough, the global superpower.
02:20:19.000 Well, if you want access to that market, which they did, you have to open that up and China's going to rise so that you get trapped into the threat of power struggle between two very wealthy superpowers eventually.
02:20:31.000 Well, how do you avoid the war?
02:20:34.000 Simple.
02:20:35.000 You take the existing power and sunset it while the other one rises.
02:20:38.000 So the sun is no longer rising in the west.
02:20:40.000 It's now setting over America and it gets to rise over the east.
02:20:43.000 We have a century of Asia.
02:20:44.000 So we build up Chinese markets.
02:20:46.000 We diminish American markets.
02:20:47.000 And I think that the whole ESG program, which by the way China is exempt from, is designed to do that.
02:20:55.000 How is China exempt from that?
02:20:56.000 Because they're a developing nation in the global south.
02:20:58.000 So the policies don't apply to them because climate change is super global or something.
02:21:03.000 How are they a developing nation?
02:21:05.000 Because they keep developing?
02:21:06.000 Well, imagine what would happen if you told them no.
02:21:09.000 They are the manufacturing base for the world.
02:21:11.000 What if you said you have to like start following decent human rights protocols.
02:21:16.000 You can't not pay people for their labor.
02:21:20.000 Maybe don't kill people.
02:21:21.000 Don't disappear people anymore.
02:21:23.000 And at the same time, you know, instead of building something like 300 new coal plants, which is I think what they're doing, they're building a couple of coal plants a week in China.
02:21:32.000 They're building 57 nuclear power plants.
02:21:35.000 The US is taking some offline, but we're building one in Georgia right now.
02:21:40.000 I think?
02:22:02.000 Everybody complains about it in the business world.
02:22:05.000 So if you don't comply with DEI and ESG, you can't get loans?
02:22:10.000 You have a diminished access to or worse interest rates for your short-term lines of capital.
02:22:18.000 Jamie pulled this up.
02:22:19.000 It says, the benefits of the UN's designation extend beyond the institution itself.
02:22:25.000 For example, the World Trade Organization allows developing nations to have longer periods of time To meet various financial and trade obligations.
02:22:33.000 The World Bank provides China billions in loans, even though China's income level would otherwise make it ineligible for such financing.
02:22:42.000 Uh-huh.
02:22:43.000 And then add in, just again, imagine the World Bank said, no.
02:22:46.000 China, that's it.
02:22:47.000 We're cutting you off.
02:22:48.000 What would China do?
02:22:49.000 China would say, pound sand.
02:22:51.000 China's going to be like, we're huge.
02:22:52.000 Ha ha ha.
02:22:52.000 We're going to do what we want.
02:22:53.000 Probably in Mandarin, because they're going to make everybody answer in Mandarin from then on.
02:22:57.000 God damn, man.
02:22:58.000 And I'm like...
02:23:00.000 I'm not gonna say that...
02:23:02.000 I mean, we talked about the tinfoil hat.
02:23:05.000 I can't think of a cleaner explanation that this is deliberate.
02:23:10.000 I've tried really hard to think of an explanation other than that this is on purpose.
02:23:15.000 And they all start like spinning wheels.
02:23:17.000 It's like really weird.
02:23:18.000 But the tools are there.
02:23:20.000 ESG, social credit in China, the whole thing.
02:23:22.000 But I think the Boeing thing is just another piece of this same puzzle.
02:23:26.000 It's destroy the manufacturing base in the wealth of the West and hand it off to what they call the Global South and China through its Belt and Road Initiative.
02:23:35.000 God, I hope you're wrong about this one.
02:23:38.000 I... I spend my entire life hoping I'm wrong about everything I think.
02:23:42.000 How often do you write?
02:23:44.000 I write a lot.
02:23:45.000 No, are you?
02:23:46.000 What do you mean?
02:23:47.000 How often are you right?
02:23:48.000 Oh, how often am I right?
02:23:49.000 Correct.
02:23:49.000 Sorry, I thought you were like, I'm so in my own life in my own stupid head, I thought you meant W-R-I-T. No.
02:23:54.000 Like, no, I'm writing two books at the same time right now.
02:23:57.000 I really am.
02:23:58.000 One about Maoism, but how woke is Mao.
02:24:01.000 But at any rate, I'm right, let's put it, it's easier to identify when I'm wrong.
02:24:10.000 I do overcook the books occasionally, but it's not very frequently.
02:24:14.000 There's a whole joke online that James Lindsay was right.
02:24:16.000 What have you been wrong about?
02:24:17.000 Well, the far right likes to lord over me.
02:24:20.000 I thought that they were setting up – and I'm going to totally give myself an escape hatch for this, but – I thought that there was for sure going to be a clash of violent clash between probably conservative Christians and the LGBT thing somewhere around Pride last year.
02:24:37.000 I was talking about that leading up to – through the spring of 23. And there was obviously no incident of violence.
02:24:46.000 I was particularly concerned when all those Christians went to LA to Dodger Stadium and they protested the weird – What were they?
02:24:53.000 The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence or whatever they called themselves, the drag queens that looked like nuns.
02:24:58.000 And I thought, well, this is going to be it, right?
02:25:00.000 So I was wrong.
02:25:01.000 I overcooked there.
02:25:02.000 They did not – now here's my escape hatch.
02:25:04.000 I think that when that shooter who was trans in Nashville – was it Covington?
02:25:09.000 Is that the name of the school?
02:25:10.000 Covington School Shooter?
02:25:12.000 I think that that changed the entire calculation.
02:25:32.000 When that happened, I think the entire country had like a take-a-breath moment because you had this very disturbed young person who was in the transgender universe who went on a rampage.
02:25:45.000 And you very infrequently see – she was biologically female, young women going on rampages.
02:25:51.000 So why in the world is it?
02:25:53.000 Was she hopped up on testosterone?
02:25:54.000 Was she – Was the test converting to estradiol through aromatase or whatever and driving her into rage because that's a thing?
02:26:03.000 Why did this happen?
02:26:04.000 Or was she just so frustrated by her ideology and stuff not going her way and she decided she flipped out and was going to get revenge?
02:26:10.000 I think that changed the calculation.
02:26:11.000 I think that they were priming the situation for violence and then the violence didn't come.
02:26:16.000 So I overestimated the potential for that circumstance and – I was wrong about that.
02:26:23.000 See if I can think of some more instances.
02:26:25.000 But that's like a bold prediction.
02:26:27.000 Yeah.
02:26:28.000 To predict violence is a bold prediction.
02:26:30.000 You could be wrong about that.
02:26:31.000 But I mean like specific things that you believe to be true that weren't?
02:26:38.000 Other than the fact that I thought it would be better to live without religion than with it in the past.
02:26:43.000 Isn't that fascinating?
02:26:44.000 Yeah.
02:26:45.000 I've had the same sort of battle in my own mind.
02:26:46.000 You know, that was a luxury belief of like 90s kids.
02:26:49.000 Yeah.
02:26:49.000 Yeah.
02:26:49.000 Well, it was the idea that the atheists were smart and the other people were superstitious.
02:26:53.000 Yeah, that was totally dead wrong about that.
02:26:55.000 I had TDS. I had straight up.
02:26:57.000 I was like on the floor.
02:26:59.000 Trump derangement syndrome.
02:27:00.000 That's right.
02:27:00.000 I thought Trump was the end of the world.
02:27:03.000 This is 2016?
02:27:04.000 16, 17, yeah.
02:27:05.000 When did you guys come on the podcast with those fake papers?
02:27:08.000 That would have been very beginning of 19 or very end of 18. Yeah.
02:27:13.000 Because that came out in October 18 and you were fast.
02:27:16.000 Yeah.
02:27:16.000 I was...
02:27:17.000 I fucking loved it.
02:27:19.000 To this day, we've talked about the dog park one like a hundred times.
02:27:22.000 That dog park paper is on another level.
02:27:24.000 It's goddamn genius.
02:27:25.000 It's goddamn genius.
02:27:26.000 But it's so crazy that so many of the things that you talked about in these fake papers were appreciated and applauded.
02:27:33.000 And it just makes you realize the lunacy of these fucking people that are supposed to be in charge of higher education that they didn't pick up on that this is insane.
02:27:42.000 You're talking about heteronormity in dog parks?
02:27:46.000 What the fuck are you saying?
02:27:48.000 What the fuck did you study?
02:27:49.000 They won an award, dude.
02:27:52.000 They won an award.
02:27:53.000 What was the total title of the paper?
02:27:55.000 It was Human Reactions to Queer Performativity and Rape Culture in Urban Dog Parks in Portland, Oregon.
02:28:03.000 Jesus Christ.
02:28:04.000 Dude, some of those other ones, though, like we had the one is called it's called in through the back door where we said that straight men would become more feminist and more sensitive and less transphobic if they practice putting things up their own asses.
02:28:17.000 Oh, that's right.
02:28:18.000 That was called an important contribution to knowledge.
02:28:20.000 That's still my favorite thing ever.
02:28:22.000 An important contribution to knowledge.
02:28:25.000 I just love the titles.
02:28:26.000 We had a fat bodybuilding paper and we called it Who Are They to Judge?
02:28:30.000 Because like bodybuilders are huge and fat people are huge and who are they to judge that one big body is bad and one big body is good?
02:28:38.000 Well, I don't think that that merits a scientific paper, but if you wanted to do that and people wanted to see it, I would have no problem with it.
02:28:47.000 Like, if you decided that we're going to go back to, like, the days of, you know, when you see these Rubenesque women in these paintings that are obese, eating grapes, that this was considered hot because it was really difficult to get fat back then.
02:29:01.000 You want to go back to that?
02:29:02.000 If that's what your choice is, I have no problem with that.
02:29:06.000 You do what you want to do.
02:29:07.000 Yeah, well, best of luck to your dating pool.
02:29:10.000 Yeah, but the thing is to study that for a scientific paper and then to submit it and then have people give it a fucking award?
02:29:18.000 Like, what?
02:29:19.000 My favorite part of that actually is in the title, but in the way aftermath of that, this real neuroscientist wrote this paper like...
02:29:27.000 No, there's no way that anybody could actually say that's absurd.
02:29:30.000 And so we wrote a paper back and we're like, no, it's really absurd.
02:29:34.000 And then he wrote another paper.
02:29:35.000 Like, there's no basis upon which anybody could say that fat bodybuilding is an absurdity.
02:29:41.000 His name is Jeffrey Cole.
02:29:42.000 Do you remember that weird phobia that came out and it went viral like 10, 15 years ago where he was like, they discovered a new phobia of things where like little holes in it all over the place.
02:29:51.000 Tripsophobia, I don't know, something like that.
02:29:53.000 Like honeycombs or whatever.
02:29:54.000 And it like weirds some people out.
02:29:56.000 Oh, really?
02:29:56.000 Yeah.
02:29:56.000 It's the guy who discovered that.
02:29:58.000 Oh!
02:29:59.000 Went off on us.
02:30:01.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.
02:30:03.000 So there's no way it could be absurd that fat bodybuilding...
02:30:06.000 There's no basis upon which we could conclude that it's absurd.
02:30:10.000 Some people might think it's totally normal.
02:30:11.000 So it couldn't possibly be considered absurd.
02:30:13.000 Well, some people could think it's totally normal.
02:30:15.000 Well, they could.
02:30:16.000 You could imagine that someone could get to a point where they appreciated fat bodies and they wanted to see different fat bodies and like, how did you build your fat?
02:30:24.000 You know, only lard.
02:30:26.000 I ate only lard.
02:30:27.000 That's in the paper.
02:30:27.000 It says it takes a long time to build a fat body.
02:30:30.000 It does.
02:30:31.000 It takes even longer to build a politicized fat body.
02:30:34.000 But it does take long to build a fat body.
02:30:37.000 I don't know, man.
02:30:37.000 If you were interested in doing that, like if you're interested in drinking yourself to death.
02:30:42.000 Like, I don't think you should do it, but you're allowed to.
02:30:45.000 And it's a project.
02:30:46.000 Yeah, it's a project.
02:30:46.000 And if you decide to fat bodybuild yourself into a state of total biological decay...
02:30:52.000 I did it over the weekend.
02:30:52.000 I went off my diet, and I'm like...
02:30:54.000 Because I'm doing that meat thing now, so I'm like, three days of just, you know, okay, I'll eat breakfast.
02:31:00.000 Okay, I'll have the dessert.
02:31:01.000 And I'm like, what the...
02:31:02.000 How did I gain six pounds?
02:31:04.000 Like, what the hell is this?
02:31:06.000 Yeah, you can cheat and get gone pretty quick.
02:31:09.000 I'm on it 90, I'd say like 95% of the time.
02:31:11.000 That's about me too.
02:31:12.000 But last night I cheated.
02:31:13.000 Last night Joe DeRosa brought me a sub.
02:31:15.000 He's got this sub shop in New York City called Joey Roses.
02:31:19.000 Yeah.
02:31:20.000 And he just put in like, I guess he's got a stand out here or something.
02:31:24.000 He's got a pop-up out here.
02:31:26.000 And so he brought over some sandwiches for the club.
02:31:28.000 Dude, it'd be hard to follow that diet in this city.
02:31:31.000 There's a lot of food here.
02:31:32.000 There is a lot of great steakhouses though.
02:31:34.000 That's true too.
02:31:36.000 It's not that hard to follow.
02:31:37.000 The thing is, that's what my body craves for the most part.
02:31:40.000 Me too.
02:31:40.000 I feel like a thousand times better.
02:31:42.000 Yeah.
02:31:43.000 I just think for most people, high protein diets, they just feel better.
02:31:47.000 High protein, high fat.
02:31:48.000 And the most important thing is real food.
02:31:50.000 Real food, that's right.
02:31:51.000 I ate a lot of eggs, a lot of meat.
02:31:53.000 Yeah, it comes out of a chicken.
02:31:54.000 It doesn't come out of a box.
02:31:55.000 Yeah.
02:31:56.000 And I always show way better.
02:31:58.000 I've done a bunch of different diets.
02:31:59.000 I've tried a bunch of different things.
02:32:01.000 Well, they're after that too, right?
02:32:02.000 No beef consumption.
02:32:03.000 Yeah, well, that's another one.
02:32:05.000 That's in the absolute zero paper too.
02:32:07.000 No beef, no lamb.
02:32:08.000 Zero.
02:32:09.000 Absolute zero.
02:32:10.000 Because apparently that's really bad for the environment or whatever.
02:32:13.000 And the question is, how are you going to get people to go along with that?
02:32:16.000 The Salt Lake Tribune just put out an article yesterday, I made fun of it on Twitter, talking about the same thing.
02:32:22.000 It's like, we need to get no meat, no dairy, and then we can have better diets or whatever.
02:32:27.000 How are you going to kill all those cows?
02:32:30.000 It's up to you.
02:32:30.000 You go do it.
02:32:31.000 Jordan Peterson says that it's proof that it's an earth-worshipping or Gaia-worship cult because they're sacrificing cows to the weather.
02:32:38.000 That is wild.
02:32:40.000 Jordan, you got a point, brother.
02:32:41.000 That's a very good point.
02:32:43.000 Sacrificing cows to the weather.
02:32:44.000 Like in Ireland, they passed some law where they had to kill like 200,000 cows.
02:32:48.000 That was what we were talking about.
02:32:49.000 Me and Jordan were talking about that.
02:32:50.000 What the fuck are you guys talking about?
02:32:52.000 You're out of your mind.
02:32:53.000 You're stopping people from making food?
02:32:55.000 Are you fucking crazy?
02:32:58.000 And meanwhile, China's making thousands or how many coal plants they have?
02:33:03.000 300-something.
02:33:04.000 I don't know how many they have.
02:33:05.000 I know how many they're making.
02:33:05.000 And I've gone over and breathed the air there.
02:33:08.000 Yeah, I've been over there and breathed the air, like on a bad day.
02:33:11.000 Like on a nice day, it's a nice day.
02:33:12.000 It's the same as usual, like here.
02:33:14.000 But three days of the week, it's like Blade Runner.
02:33:17.000 It's like, what the hell's going on?
02:33:19.000 It depends on which way the wind is blowing and otherwise, like your life is literally poison.
02:33:23.000 Yeah.
02:33:23.000 Jesus Christ.
02:33:24.000 Like, your eyes are burning for no reason.
02:33:26.000 Here's the worst part.
02:33:27.000 So you get off the plane.
02:33:28.000 Have you ever been to China?
02:33:29.000 I don't want to waste your time.
02:33:30.000 No.
02:33:30.000 Okay, you get off the plane and immediately you can smell it.
02:33:33.000 It smells kind of like glue and dirty cardboard and petro.
02:33:37.000 You can smell the pollution immediately.
02:33:39.000 So, you know, about an hour in, you can't smell it anymore.
02:33:42.000 You're used to it.
02:33:43.000 Right.
02:33:43.000 Until the first time you go take a piss and you smell it again because it's in your blood.
02:33:47.000 Oh.
02:33:48.000 And you're like, oh no.
02:33:49.000 Oh wow, you smell the pollution and you're pissed like asparagus?
02:33:54.000 Yeah, like the first time.
02:33:55.000 Oh my god.
02:33:56.000 Then you become completely used to it and you don't notice it anymore.
02:34:01.000 That's the thing about olfactory senses.
02:34:03.000 You become accustomed to smells.
02:34:04.000 That's why people that live in places that have like...
02:34:07.000 If you go past a slaughterhouse, have you ever done that?
02:34:11.000 Yeah.
02:34:12.000 That fucking smell, you're like, how do these people live with this?
02:34:14.000 I got lost in the smokestack part of Texas one time, and there were some smells on the road even.
02:34:21.000 Yeah, it used to be New Jersey.
02:34:22.000 When you'd go past the factories in Jersey, you'd be like, what the fuck?
02:34:25.000 And they're just billowing smoke out into the sky.
02:34:28.000 Just billowing smoke out into the sky.
02:34:31.000 This fucking smell?
02:34:33.000 Imagine this is your town, dude.
02:34:34.000 You gotta get out of here.
02:34:35.000 I'll tell you what, that's China.
02:34:37.000 So what I said when I went over the first time, so this is kind of relevant, is this whole ESG model.
02:34:42.000 The first time I went over there, as I said, I came home and people were like, well, what's it like?
02:34:45.000 And I was like, well, I looked around and it's obviously communist because you can see weird shit where people are like fake doing fake jobs.
02:34:52.000 Like it's obvious that they just get paid in income to look busy.
02:34:56.000 Stuff like a dude sitting on his hands and knees hitting the ground with a hammer when the boss is around.
02:35:02.000 Like, doing nothing.
02:35:04.000 Like, I went to a bank one time when I was over there to change like $200 so I could have some cash, and they were like, oh yeah, the bank doesn't change money on Tuesdays.
02:35:12.000 And I was like, what?
02:35:14.000 And then I got bumped into by this janitor, and that's like, I guess, taboo or something, because he was way too worried about having bumped into a customer than I thought he should have been.
02:35:23.000 Maybe I just don't know the culture.
02:35:24.000 So he was like, he bumps into me, and I know like 10 things in Chinese.
02:35:28.000 So he was like, which means like, no problem.
02:35:30.000 And all of a sudden, you could see, you know, they all did the little, like, you know, you're not supposed to do racial microaggressions, but they did the little face.
02:35:37.000 They're like, you know, because I did the whole, like, Asian surprise face because I spoke Chinese.
02:35:41.000 Right.
02:35:41.000 So all of a sudden, the lady behind the desk was like, oh, I just remembered.
02:35:46.000 We do change money on Tuesday because now she thought I could go tell on her in Chinese.
02:35:50.000 Whoa.
02:35:51.000 I was at Starbucks and they wrote white man on my cup, Byron on my cup.
02:35:57.000 Interesting.
02:35:58.000 Interesting.
02:35:58.000 Ireland isn't calling cows for climate, but maybe it should be?
02:36:02.000 What the fuck?
02:36:02.000 Oh my god.
02:36:03.000 What the fuck, Elon?
02:36:04.000 It's not happening, but it should be.
02:36:06.000 It's not a true story.
02:36:06.000 It's not a true story?
02:36:07.000 It's fake?
02:36:07.000 I mean, yeah, it said it came from Elon's tweet that came from something else, and then one looked into...
02:36:12.000 Oh, here you go.
02:36:13.000 Like, the rumor started here.
02:36:14.000 Okay, here it goes.
02:36:16.000 The rumors of Ireland's dairy cull landed in a media and online context primed by the Dutch case for outrage.
02:36:24.000 Case in point, Musk's comment was in response to a tweet by a right-wing provocateur about a story in an obscure Wyoming publication called Cowboy State Daily that accused Ireland's government of bovine-sidal intentions.
02:36:38.000 That article, in turn, cited an op-ed from the British newspaper The Telegraph railing against Ireland's alleged mooted cow massacre and warned in apocalyptic terms of an eco-modernist agenda to do away with conventional meat altogether.
02:36:56.000 The Telegraph did not cite its sources, but it likely drew on an article published the previous day in the Irish newspaper, The Independent.
02:37:04.000 That story reported on the internal government document discussed above, including the proposal that 195,000 cows be culled over three years at the government's expense to help achieve its ambitious climate goals.
02:37:18.000 But hold on a second.
02:37:19.000 It goes on to continue about how it would be so hard to even do it.
02:37:22.000 But that story – but hold up.
02:37:23.000 Go back there.
02:37:24.000 That story reported on the internal government document.
02:37:29.000 So what is the internal government document?
02:37:32.000 They would need to call 65,000 cows every year in order to meet the proposed climate goals.
02:37:38.000 So they're just saying that if we – there's no way to meet these goals.
02:37:43.000 The only way to meet these goals in terms of what the impact agriculture would have, we'd have to kill 65,000 cows a year.
02:37:49.000 So they're not saying we should do that, but they are at least saying that's on the table.
02:37:54.000 I talked to these ranchers out in New Mexico not that long ago, and they were telling me that that's the way all the policies are.
02:38:00.000 It's that to meet whatever the new environmental standard is so that you don't get somebody breathing down your neck or maybe you don't get fines or whatever, that they're actually impossible.
02:38:10.000 He said that the only way you could meet some of these is to have no cows and no people on the land whatsoever.
02:38:16.000 And I don't know if they're actually going to move on that, but this is what I'm talking about with – because it's not – Not in the UK FIRE's absolute zero document.
02:38:26.000 It's 100% in there that this says no beef, no lamb at all.
02:38:30.000 So those have got to go.
02:38:32.000 By 2050, there will be zero consumption of beef and lamb under the ambitious net zero or absolute zero, I should say, climate.
02:38:40.000 By 2050, zero.
02:38:42.000 Zero.
02:38:42.000 And so do they plan on making cows extinct?
02:38:45.000 Do they plan on keeping a breeding population that you could fucking just keep the...
02:38:50.000 Species alive with?
02:38:51.000 What the fuck are they going to do?
02:38:52.000 I don't know.
02:38:53.000 But they talk a lot about the emissions of those.
02:38:55.000 But then they also say that when there was the massacre of the bisons, that that was really bad.
02:38:59.000 And bisons make a lot of emissions, but there was no climate emergency from all the bisons.
02:39:04.000 So, I mean, I don't know.
02:39:05.000 Well, the climate science is also a religion.
02:39:09.000 If you have anyone that goes over the actual data and differs with what the narrative is, that person is a crazy person and a climate denier.
02:39:19.000 A denier.
02:39:19.000 That's right.
02:39:20.000 You can't even have discussions about the actual, like, the real numbers.
02:39:25.000 You can't talk about the real history of the climate of Earth.
02:39:29.000 You can't talk about the dangers of global cooling.
02:39:32.000 If you just talk about the dangers of global cooling, you're a climate denier.
02:39:36.000 Yeah, you can't talk about whether we're in a natural warming cycle or if it's got, you know, or whatever.
02:39:41.000 Not saying that we are, I don't know, but you can't talk about it.
02:39:44.000 This is one fact, for sure, we know, 100%, that the temperature of Earth has never been static.
02:39:51.000 That's right.
02:39:51.000 It goes up and down.
02:39:53.000 Ever, ever, ever.
02:39:54.000 When they do those core samples and they go back thousands and thousands and thousands of years, it's never been static.
02:40:00.000 It's always been all over the fucking place.
02:40:02.000 And there's a bunch of variables that cause it to change.
02:40:05.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:40:06.000 They know that.
02:40:07.000 And they know that humans are having some impact.
02:40:10.000 We're having some impact.
02:40:11.000 What is the impact?
02:40:13.000 And how much of it should we throw the fucking society that we all live in into the gutter to try to fix?
02:40:20.000 Right.
02:40:21.000 Or hand over all of the power to a handful of unelected dictators.
02:40:26.000 Yeah.
02:40:27.000 These so-called stakeholders.
02:40:28.000 Why does Bill Gates know more about all of this than everybody?
02:40:31.000 I get it.
02:40:31.000 He built Microsoft.
02:40:32.000 He can do something.
02:40:33.000 He knows something.
02:40:35.000 I'm not going to take that away from him, but...
02:40:37.000 Why is he the god of vaccines and climate and every other thing because he built a fucking computer?
02:40:43.000 It's very weird.
02:40:44.000 It's all very weird because you don't want to think it's that on the nose.
02:40:48.000 You don't want to think it's that on the nose that they're engineering the demise of I actually get hopeful when I think that they are.
02:40:57.000 I'm much more afraid of it being just some random organic shit going off the rails than it is that there's some number of people who could be identified as criminals.
02:41:06.000 I worry about that.
02:41:07.000 I worry about it that a lot of it is a random thing that just happens with human beings that are tribally opposed to each other.
02:41:14.000 Then maybe too wealthy or whatever.
02:41:15.000 And there's a lot of that, a lot of free time and a lot of easy living.
02:41:19.000 And then it all just ramps up like everything does.
02:41:22.000 Like nothing stays like this is a good way to behave.
02:41:26.000 That's where religion comes in because religion does tell you this is a good way to behave and these are the tenets you should live by.
02:41:32.000 And it's not like this thing that you should be escalating and pushing it further and further and further.
02:41:38.000 It's like, not to get all, like, churchy, but I have been.
02:41:40.000 Seriously, when I said earlier that I've been looking at the Bible a lot, looking at the Gospels, not just particularly, but especially, I was reading the Gospel of Matthew the other day, the seventh chapter, and I bet you never thought you were going to have this conversation with me.
02:41:51.000 But I was reading it, and I'm reading about the, you know, the way is narrow, the straight and narrow way, where he has that in Matthew 7. He's like, you know, wide is the path that leads to destruction, but the way that leads to life is straight and narrow.
02:42:02.000 And it's like...
02:42:04.000 What is that talking about?
02:42:32.000 You're going to crash into the sides.
02:42:34.000 And it's a weird kind of pun or whatever in English, but it turns out that that's the word that he used for Greek is what it means is a narrow waterway.
02:42:41.000 And so it's like you got to – it's very important that we live like that.
02:42:46.000 And so what does religion do?
02:42:48.000 Well, religion teaches people to like at least contemplate this crap.
02:42:52.000 Why don't you stop for five minutes of your week and think maybe there are some ways to be a good person.
02:42:58.000 Right.
02:42:58.000 And if you don't have a structure for that, then it's dependent entirely upon the ideology that you subscribe to.
02:43:04.000 If it's an out-of-control ideology, that may very well be controlled by foreign powers that are using it to disrupt this country.
02:43:13.000 It's a crazy thing to think, but that might really be what's going on.
02:43:17.000 I think it is.
02:43:19.000 I'll put the hat back on or whatever.
02:43:21.000 I'm not afraid of the radio waves is the problem.
02:43:24.000 I've got to put like something else on.
02:43:25.000 Tinfoil hat is fine though.
02:43:27.000 It suits its purpose.
02:43:28.000 Yeah, it suits its purpose.
02:43:29.000 It's – seriously, but then even that gets infiltrated.
02:43:33.000 So people have got to take it really seriously.
02:43:35.000 I like to tell people this is my little like bit, right?
02:43:38.000 So I'll waste one of my bits.
02:43:39.000 But I tell people it's like here's how communism is.
02:43:42.000 This is how freaking seductive it is.
02:43:44.000 So in, again, Matthew chapter 10, Jesus is talking and he says that I send you out and you have to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.
02:43:56.000 It's a very famous – Matthew 10, 16, it's a very famous verse.
02:43:59.000 So you have to be wise and wary like a snake, right?
02:44:02.000 Testing, the tongue testing the air, knowing where you're going.
02:44:06.000 If I'm going to send you out into the world, you've got to be wise and judicious and discerning, but you also have to be gentle, right?
02:44:13.000 And so what do the communists do?
02:44:14.000 This is how subtle they are, Joe.
02:44:17.000 They come along and say, did you hear that?
02:44:19.000 Jesus said, be gentle.
02:44:24.000 Yeah.
02:44:47.000 But no, the problem was that you're not being discerning and wise anymore.
02:44:50.000 So what happens is the communists take away half the commandment to suck you in and marries a truth to a lie or whatever, and then the fascists overreact by throwing the principle out entirely.
02:44:59.000 But if people were grounded in their faiths and taking it seriously, they would realize, no, no, no, no, I have to be kind and gentle, but I also have to be wise as a serpent.
02:45:08.000 When a serpent's in danger, it doesn't hesitate to strike.
02:45:11.000 But it's only going to do that when it's in danger.
02:45:13.000 So it's like that's crafty, man.
02:45:17.000 Right.
02:45:17.000 And then look at like that's crafty to an adult.
02:45:20.000 Now imagine when they do that to like a five-year-old.
02:45:23.000 We're good to go.
02:45:53.000 Yeah.
02:45:53.000 I didn't know the guy.
02:45:55.000 Oh, of course.
02:45:56.000 Never met him.
02:45:56.000 Of course.
02:45:57.000 We're just like we're not mad at Klaus Schwab for his dad.
02:46:00.000 No.
02:46:01.000 We're mad at Klaus Schwab for other reasons.
02:46:03.000 Yeah.
02:46:03.000 It wasn't his choice.
02:46:04.000 It wasn't your choice that Robert E. Lee was...
02:46:06.000 How many generations?
02:46:08.000 Seven.
02:46:09.000 Seven.
02:46:09.000 Yeah.
02:46:10.000 Apparently, my line and he had a common grandfather is the way that the seventh cousin's math works out.
02:46:17.000 It is kind of wild to imagine that just a couple hundred years ago, less...
02:46:21.000 The United States was involved with a war with each other.
02:46:24.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:46:26.000 Like, just...
02:46:27.000 That's how nuts we are.
02:46:29.000 We're so fucking nuts, we'll fight each other.
02:46:31.000 Well, freedom's important.
02:46:33.000 Yeah.
02:46:34.000 Right?
02:46:34.000 Yeah.
02:46:35.000 I mean, liberty or death.
02:46:36.000 Yeah.
02:46:37.000 And that was the ultimate one, right?
02:46:39.000 Yeah.
02:46:39.000 I have to think about that all the time now, man.
02:46:42.000 Like, give me liberty or give me death.
02:46:43.000 I used to think when I was a kid, like, that's crazy.
02:46:45.000 That sounds ridiculous because there's no real issues when you're a kid.
02:46:48.000 But now it's like, no, that's legit.
02:46:53.000 I'm in.
02:46:54.000 Yeah, they said it for a reason.
02:46:55.000 Because back then, it was a whole different ballgame they were playing.
02:46:59.000 Imagine someone trying to start a new country today.
02:47:02.000 Yeah, you're going to have a hard time getting off the ground.
02:47:04.000 Good fucking luck.
02:47:07.000 You think it's hard to get a DEI loan?
02:47:09.000 Yeah, no kidding.
02:47:11.000 To start a manufacturing corporation in America?
02:47:14.000 Imagine trying to start a country.
02:47:15.000 Yeah, you better be compliant with everything.
02:47:19.000 You're like some crazy rogue state or whatever.
02:47:21.000 Imagine if Iceland was for sale or some country.
02:47:24.000 Greenland.
02:47:26.000 You could buy Greenland.
02:47:27.000 Imagine you bought Greenland.
02:47:29.000 We're just going to fucking let people be cool.
02:47:32.000 Really cool, actually.
02:47:34.000 Let people have a good time.
02:47:36.000 Well, that's a good spot to buy if the global warming fanaticists are true, if they're right.
02:47:41.000 If they're correct, Greenland's the spot.
02:47:43.000 So are they buying up that property?
02:47:46.000 No.
02:47:47.000 The thing is, a lot of these people that are pushing all this climate change agenda have homes on the beach.
02:47:52.000 And they're not getting rid of those.
02:47:53.000 And by the way, the shoreline hasn't changed.
02:47:55.000 Yeah, Plymouth Rock is just barely above the surface.
02:47:58.000 You can still see where they wrote 1620 on it.
02:48:01.000 Look, the surface has changed throughout human history.
02:48:03.000 We know that, folks.
02:48:05.000 And you know when it changes the most?
02:48:06.000 When there's a fucking ice age.
02:48:27.000 Uh-huh.
02:48:28.000 Hey guys, something's happening here.
02:48:31.000 And same formula every time.
02:48:33.000 It could be that we're all going to have a better future, but there's these deniers that won't come along with us, so hate them.
02:48:39.000 Because it would be great.
02:48:40.000 And you're sacrificing, you're riding a bike to work instead of driving your car.
02:48:44.000 You're a good person.
02:48:44.000 You're a good person and those assholes with their truck, you know, big diesel truck are ruining the planet.
02:48:51.000 I was watching this lady talk about this.
02:48:53.000 She was talking about how she loves having an electric car because she knows that it means I'm being a good person.
02:49:00.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:49:00.000 Contributing to the environment.
02:49:02.000 I just saw this thing that said that the environmental impact of electric cars is actually worse overall than the environmental impact of a traditional combustion engine.
02:49:15.000 Is that true?
02:49:16.000 Because that sounds crazy.
02:49:18.000 I read the same thing as you, so my depth of knowing that it's true is equal to yours.
02:49:24.000 Just in all fairness, I drove here in an electric car.
02:49:27.000 I drive in an electric car all the time.
02:49:28.000 Do you?
02:49:29.000 Yeah, I have a Tesla.
02:49:30.000 It's awesome.
02:49:30.000 Oh, okay.
02:49:31.000 Fucking rules.
02:49:32.000 I've seen a couple of the Cybertrucks.
02:49:33.000 You got a Cybertruck?
02:49:34.000 No, I have the Model S. Oh yeah, those are fun.
02:49:36.000 It's great.
02:49:37.000 It's so comfortable.
02:49:39.000 It's easy.
02:49:39.000 It's fast as shit.
02:49:41.000 It's ridiculous.
02:49:42.000 It makes other cars feel stupid.
02:49:44.000 They feel dumb because they don't move like that thing.
02:49:46.000 That thing moves like it's like teleporting.
02:49:48.000 It's bizarre.
02:49:50.000 It's bizarre what it can do.
02:49:52.000 It's easy to drive.
02:49:54.000 I don't like the fact the horn's not in the middle.
02:49:56.000 This is probably what we saw.
02:49:58.000 Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars.
02:50:04.000 Study.
02:50:04.000 This is in the New York Post.
02:50:06.000 And it says, it's amazing that they didn't ban this story.
02:50:09.000 Yeah, right?
02:50:10.000 From the New York Post.
02:50:11.000 Remember when they did that with Twitter with the Hunter Biden laptop?
02:50:13.000 Yeah.
02:50:13.000 How wild is that?
02:50:14.000 Electric vehicles release more toxic particles into the atmosphere and are worse for the environment than their gas-powered counterparts, according to a resurfaced study.
02:50:22.000 A study published by Emissions Data from Emissions Analytics was released in 2022, but has attracted a wave of attention this week by being cited in a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Sunday.
02:50:34.000 It found brakes and tires on EVs release 1,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes, which have efficient exhaust filters, bringing gas-powered vehicles' emissions to new lows.
02:50:48.000 Today, most vehicle-related pollution comes from tire wear.
02:50:52.000 Whoa.
02:50:53.000 As heavy cars drive on light-duty tires, most often made with synthetic rubber made from crude oil and other fillers and additives, they deteriorate and release harmful chemicals into the air, according to Emission Analytics.
02:51:07.000 I do know they're heavier and they wear down the roads faster.
02:51:09.000 Wow.
02:51:10.000 Because EVs are an average of 30% heavier, brakes and tires in the battery-powered cars wear out faster than on standard cars.
02:51:17.000 Emission analytics found that tire wear emissions on half a metric ton of battery weight in an EV are more than 400 times as great as direct exhaust particulate emissions.
02:51:29.000 For reference, half a metric ton is equivalent to roughly 1,100 pounds.
02:51:34.000 That's something that someone had told me a long time ago about cities.
02:51:37.000 The thing about the pollution is it's not just the emissions.
02:51:41.000 It's brake dust.
02:51:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:51:43.000 That you're breathing in brake dust.
02:51:44.000 Because if you've ever, like, touched your car, like your wheels after you drive it for a while, when you're cleaning your car, you get brake dust.
02:51:51.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:51:54.000 That goes out in the air.
02:51:55.000 Oh yeah, totally.
02:51:58.000 You know what it doesn't?
02:52:00.000 On carbon brakes.
02:52:01.000 When you have those carbon ceramic disc brakes, they don't seem to do that.
02:52:09.000 Are they more environmentally friendly?
02:52:13.000 Are carbon ceramic disc brakes more environmentally friendly than regular?
02:52:17.000 Because your wheels don't get all fucked up like that.
02:52:20.000 You don't get brake dust all over your wheels.
02:52:22.000 Yeah, look at that like nasty black.
02:52:23.000 No.
02:52:24.000 No, it's interesting.
02:52:25.000 It's more expensive and they put them on like high performance cars.
02:52:28.000 Yeah.
02:52:28.000 But is it more environmentally friendly?
02:52:31.000 Because it seems like it would be if you're not getting the brake dust.
02:52:35.000 I'm like, where is it going?
02:52:36.000 Is it just not making dust?
02:52:38.000 Because it's a carbon fiber pad and then the brake?
02:52:41.000 So does it just work without making dust?
02:52:43.000 Does that even make sense?
02:52:44.000 What I read about these EVs, besides getting their materials to make the batteries, is that they don't...
02:52:49.000 They're not, like, reusable.
02:52:50.000 There's, like, no used EV market.
02:52:53.000 Right.
02:52:54.000 Like, nobody wants to buy a used one, and then replacing the batteries if they, you know, wear out is a disaster, apparently.
02:53:00.000 It's very expensive.
02:53:01.000 Yeah, just close to the price of the car itself sometimes is what I've heard.
02:53:04.000 I don't know.
02:53:05.000 Really?
02:53:05.000 Yeah, they can be extremely expensive.
02:53:07.000 So there's no, like...
02:53:08.000 I didn't know it was that much.
02:53:08.000 There's zero aftermarket.
02:53:10.000 So, like, where do they go?
02:53:11.000 Do they have, like, electric car graveyards, like, with the windmill blades, where they just kind of bury them in the dirt?
02:53:16.000 Like, I don't know what happens to them.
02:53:19.000 There's a significant reduction in brake dust compared to metal blend pads.
02:53:24.000 Significant reduction.
02:53:25.000 But they are way more expensive, aren't they?
02:53:27.000 Yes, they're way more expensive.
02:53:28.000 Yeah, it's like everybody's got to ride around in expensive Porsche brakes.
02:53:33.000 Yeah, but I mean, if you think about all the other things that we do for the environment, If carbon ceramic brakes are a possibility, how much more expensive?
02:53:40.000 Does it make a car $500 more?
02:53:42.000 Is there a way that they can produce them in mass?
02:53:45.000 Is there a reason why they haven't done that?
02:53:47.000 I mean, that seems to be alone a solution, at least for electric cars.
02:53:51.000 If you'd say, you're spending the money to get a Tesla, they're fucking expensive already.
02:53:56.000 If someone's going to spend $120,000 on a car, you won't spend $122,000 and get carbon ceramic brakes that won't Pollute the atmosphere nearly as much.
02:54:05.000 Yeah, well, it would seem to make reason.
02:54:08.000 Yeah, that's a wild statistic, but that lady was not aware of that.
02:54:12.000 She's like, I'm doing a really amazing job.
02:54:14.000 It's important to this quick thing I just pulled up.
02:54:15.000 It says it almost takes a month to make each one.
02:54:17.000 Holy shit.
02:54:18.000 Whoa.
02:54:18.000 That's probably why.
02:54:19.000 That's a lot of investment to build.
02:54:21.000 Well, ceramics are complicated if they're high tech.
02:54:25.000 Wow.
02:54:26.000 Holy shit.
02:54:29.000 Average of, I don't know, $10,000 per break?
02:54:32.000 Does that sound right?
02:54:33.000 Whoa!
02:54:33.000 I don't know if that's right, but that's just, yeah, you're looking somewhere in the $10,000 range for a set of rotors.
02:54:38.000 Wow.
02:54:39.000 Wow.
02:54:39.000 Holy shit.
02:54:40.000 Maybe it's a little bit more than that.
02:54:41.000 Yeah.
02:54:42.000 Damn.
02:54:43.000 Damn.
02:54:44.000 Yeah.
02:54:46.000 But isn't there another way?
02:54:47.000 If they have carbon ceramics and they're doing it for that, isn't there some other kind of compound that they could do that's comparable?
02:54:54.000 Doesn't it seem like someone should be able to figure that out if that's literally the source of our major form of pollution?
02:55:00.000 I bet they're trying to figure that out.
02:55:02.000 Yeah, what am I, retarded?
02:55:03.000 Yeah, some guy's definitely trying to figure that out.
02:55:05.000 What the fuck is wrong with me?
02:55:05.000 I'm like, why doesn't anybody figure it out?
02:55:08.000 A lot of R&D. But it still doesn't answer the question.
02:55:11.000 If people want to drive an electric vehicle, like, okay, fine, who cares?
02:55:14.000 Right.
02:55:15.000 But it's like, why do we have to get rid of gas ones if the emissions are negligible compared to their brakes, whatever the brakes happen to be?
02:55:22.000 Right.
02:55:22.000 So if their brakes are most of the pollution and the emissions are like basically nothing, I think that emissions is one of those words, that they just say it and then everybody has to do what they say because they said emissions.
02:55:32.000 Think about the emissions.
02:55:33.000 Think about the emissions.
02:55:34.000 Right.
02:55:34.000 And they're not taking into account brake dust.
02:55:37.000 Like, yeah, there's so much else going on.
02:55:39.000 It seems just...
02:55:41.000 A little bit fake.
02:55:42.000 Well, it's definitely fake if that's true.
02:55:45.000 If that's true, that's something that really...
02:55:46.000 But the scary thing is, and they say, then we must take all cars off the road and everyone stays in a 15-minute city and bicycle everywhere.
02:55:55.000 It's good for you.
02:55:56.000 You saw what Buttigieg said a year or two, two years ago, that their goal was by 2030 to get to net zero, that's the buzzword, automobile deaths.
02:56:06.000 How do you get to zero automobile deaths?
02:56:09.000 Stop people driving cars.
02:56:10.000 That's the best way.
02:56:11.000 Yeah, basically it.
02:56:12.000 Like, turns out that stuff happens.
02:56:15.000 Good lord.
02:56:15.000 Yeah, so it's like...
02:56:16.000 Good lord, James Lindsay.
02:56:18.000 Don't come here with good thoughts and tidings for the future.
02:56:21.000 I am the most optimistic person in this stupid culture war, Joe.
02:56:24.000 You're the most optimistic person that knows what you know.
02:56:27.000 Well, okay, that's fair.
02:56:29.000 Yeah.
02:56:29.000 No, I actually think, like, I see these guys bungling so much.
02:56:34.000 Like, Joe Biden's—he's a bungler.
02:56:36.000 He is a bungle.
02:56:38.000 Yeah.
02:56:38.000 Like, I got asked at this Christian event one time, this kind of person's, like, wailing, and they're like, you know, if God is real, it was almost like, if God is real, why do we have to have Joe Biden?
02:56:48.000 And, like, the only answer I could think of on the spot was because people have to be able to see— Like, dude's pulling the curtain back for an awful, like, what the hell's going on?
02:56:57.000 Having that guy as president is fascinating.
02:57:00.000 And when they expose, like, when Corrine Jean-Pierre, or however you say her name, when she tweeted accidentally from her own account, as Joe Biden, it's like, oh, look.
02:57:09.000 How about that?
02:57:10.000 And when you see that lady, when she's the White House press secretary, answering questions, it's so ridiculous.
02:57:16.000 It is preposterous.
02:57:18.000 Imagine that that's the person that's pulling strings.
02:57:20.000 And then it's like they invite, like, well, what was that guy that was stealing women's luggage?
02:57:26.000 Yeah, Sam Brinton.
02:57:26.000 Like, the whole administration.
02:57:28.000 Yeah, they're at their fucking minds.
02:57:29.000 Like, you know, whatever shade is deserved and no more, but we got the Admiral Levine and we just see the pictures and you're like, what the hell?
02:57:38.000 And she's in charge of health.
02:57:40.000 He...
02:57:41.000 He.
02:57:42.000 He's in charge of health.
02:57:42.000 We'll be in trouble for that, but...
02:57:44.000 Whatever.
02:57:44.000 That person, that crazy person is in charge of health.
02:57:47.000 The Admiral.
02:57:47.000 That unhealthy-looking person is in charge of health.
02:57:50.000 Yeah.
02:57:51.000 I mean...
02:57:52.000 Whoa.
02:57:53.000 Hey.
02:57:54.000 Hey.
02:57:54.000 Maybe there's a problem.
02:57:55.000 Yeah.
02:57:55.000 And China must be laughing.
02:57:59.000 I kind of admire their long game.
02:58:01.000 I think it's very impressive.
02:58:03.000 Well, it is.
02:58:04.000 Listen, I am not Chinese, but if I was in China, I would be proud of what my country's doing to America.
02:58:09.000 A generational strategy.
02:58:11.000 I think they're killing it.
02:58:12.000 My experience on the ground in China is that roughly half, like what's going on, not against America, but with that system, and roughly half would very quietly whisper when I was there, do everything you can, because if we lose America, we lose everything.
02:58:26.000 God.
02:58:27.000 So there's a sizable portion of Chinese that know that they can bug out to America, but if America goes, there's nowhere to bug out to.
02:58:35.000 Isn't that wild that wearing a Make America Great Again hat on can get you punched?
02:58:42.000 Yeah.
02:58:42.000 And it happens to be red, which seems at least slightly symbolic.
02:58:48.000 Yeah.
02:58:49.000 The whole thing is bananas.
02:58:51.000 We are in the pinnacle of bananas time.
02:58:54.000 James Lindsay, I'm very, very glad you're out there.
02:58:57.000 I'm glad that you know as much as you know and you can talk about these things.
02:59:01.000 And that you have a personality that seems to enjoy some of this conflict.
02:59:05.000 Well, I like a little bit.
02:59:07.000 And I like the absurdity.
02:59:08.000 I'm not going to lie.
02:59:09.000 I think at the end of the day, it's easy to remember this is all really funny.
02:59:13.000 It is very funny unless it's tearing your life apart.
02:59:16.000 And then it's not so funny for you.
02:59:18.000 But the human folly of it all at scale, at the scale that we're witnessing, is kind of amazing.
02:59:25.000 It's tremendously amazing.
02:59:27.000 It's also kind of amazing when we know as much as we know about human nature.
02:59:31.000 We know as much as we know about the benefits of hard work and work ethic and discipline.
02:59:35.000 All these things that we've always praised people for in the past is now being dismissed as being racist or sexist or Islamophobic or whatever the fuck it is.
02:59:46.000 White supremacy culture.
02:59:46.000 Whatever the fuck they can label it with.
02:59:48.000 It's like they're trying to diminish strength.
02:59:52.000 Through a very obvious sort of ideological scheme.
02:59:58.000 And it's weird.
02:59:59.000 It's weird to watch.
03:00:00.000 It's weird to watch human folly play out like that.
03:00:03.000 And so many people accept it and adopt it.
03:00:06.000 Yeah, it's a fun project.
03:00:08.000 Is that what the Bible was talking about when they said the meek shall inherit the earth?
03:00:11.000 Yeah, it might be.
03:00:11.000 It was definitely what the Bible's talking about where one prophet after another stands up in the Old Testament and is like, listen, you screwheads.
03:00:18.000 You're way off the track, and if you don't get in line, God's going to punish you.
03:00:21.000 And so what did they do in almost every case?
03:00:23.000 Not quite every case.
03:00:24.000 They go after the prophet, right?
03:00:26.000 Yeah.
03:00:26.000 Like, the prophets didn't have a nice, easy ride.
03:00:28.000 Maybe a couple of exceptions to that.
03:00:30.000 But the prophets got, you know, were like, hey, guys, we got to get back to, you know, living the correct way.
03:00:36.000 And they bullied the prophet instead.
03:00:39.000 So it feels kind of like living in Bible stories sometimes.
03:00:43.000 It does.
03:00:43.000 I feel like if we were on Spotify, I would ask you to queue up Johnny Cash, God's going to cut you down.
03:00:50.000 So can we just play that just for the Spotify people and say goodbye to the YouTube people?
03:00:54.000 We can't do that?
03:00:57.000 Not really?
03:01:00.000 Alright, I'll listen to it when I get out of here.
03:01:02.000 You should too.
03:01:03.000 What was that?
03:01:07.000 Who's everybody else?
03:01:08.000 I'll play it for us.
03:01:09.000 Just for us?
03:01:09.000 Alright, let me hear a little bit of it.
03:01:11.000 I didn't know Chris Rock was in that video.
03:01:13.000 Alright, we'll edit that out.
03:01:15.000 Hey, thank you.
03:01:16.000 Appreciate you.
03:01:17.000 Thanks for being here, man.
03:01:18.000 And thanks for having so much information that you can just give people a roadmap that I really don't think is available in a lot of places.
03:01:26.000 Well, I appreciate that.
03:01:27.000 Thank you very much.
03:01:28.000 Alright, bye everybody.