The Joe Rogan Experience - March 27, 2024


Joe Rogan Experience #2126 - Donnell Rawlings


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 31 minutes

Words per Minute

185.21451

Word Count

28,131

Sentence Count

3,046

Misogynist Sentences

69

Hate Speech Sentences

53


Summary

Actor and comedian Donnell "Donny" Clancy ( ) joins comedian Joe Rogan ( ) to discuss his career and life after Law and Order. Donnell talks about how he got his start in comedy, why he left the show and why he decided to pursue a career in the entertainment industry, and what it's like to grow up in the late 80s and early 90s in New York City. Joe also talks about the early days of his law enforcement career and how he dealt with the pressure of being typecast as a bad guy . He also discusses why it s important to have a bad guy in your life and why you should never settle for less than a "bad guy". Joe is a standup comic, actor, writer, comedian, and podcaster. He is a regular on Comedy Central's "The Office" and hosts his own podcast, "Joe Rogan Experience," which is a podcast where he talks about comedy and other things related to his life and career. Check it out! and don t forget to subscribe to The Joe Rogans Experience! Subscribe, Like, Share, and Share on whatever platform you're listening to. Thank you for listening! Cheers, Donnell! -JOE J. R. ROGAN -The Joeson Experience -By Night, All Day, By Day, All Night, By Night, by Night, by Night - All Day by Day, All Day All Day - By Night by Night by Day - by Night by Day by Night? Thanks for listening, Donny by Donnell in the podcast? -Joe Rogans in a new day? Thanks, Joe ROGan in a New Day, by Donny in the new day, ? Thank You, Joe J. Rogan ( ) Love, Donell in the morning, Donn in the old days? . Joe Rocha in the day, Joe's new day & much more... , and much more! by night, Donna in the night? by Joe R.ROGAN? , by day, by night . . . by the night, by the evening? ... And much more thanks, Joe, , by night? ? by evening thank you!


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:12.000 I don't want to try to do you dirty, Donnell.
00:00:15.000 Don't do that, man.
00:00:16.000 Don't do that, man.
00:00:17.000 Don't start with that.
00:00:18.000 Birds flying high.
00:00:20.000 You know how I feel.
00:00:22.000 They tried to do you dirty.
00:00:25.000 You know how I feel.
00:00:28.000 It's a new day.
00:00:31.000 It's a new dawn.
00:00:33.000 They tried to label you.
00:00:34.000 It's a new life for me, and I'm feeling good.
00:00:36.000 You look good.
00:00:37.000 Thank you.
00:00:37.000 You look real good.
00:00:38.000 Where'd you get that suit?
00:00:39.000 Who made that suit for you?
00:00:40.000 La Catino out of Brooklyn is some Korean tailors that I've been working with for the last two years.
00:00:46.000 Nice.
00:00:46.000 And they're trying to make me go from Ashley to Clancy, and it's a new day.
00:00:49.000 I think it looks great.
00:00:50.000 And another thing you don't know about this suit, Joe, I smell as good as this suit looks.
00:00:56.000 Okay.
00:00:56.000 What are you using for smell?
00:00:58.000 What is it called?
00:01:00.000 Portrait of a Lady.
00:01:02.000 It's an Arabic company.
00:01:05.000 That's all I know.
00:01:06.000 And I got a guy that outsources my colognes.
00:01:10.000 What do you do?
00:01:10.000 Like a little here, a little here, and a little on the wrists?
00:01:12.000 How you do it?
00:01:13.000 But do you spray it and walk through it?
00:01:15.000 That's cool.
00:01:16.000 I spray it, walk through it, and then I... I do that an anointed mouth like, okay, we get it.
00:01:21.000 You got some nice cologne on right now.
00:01:24.000 But it's good to be here.
00:01:25.000 There's something nice about a nice suit, man.
00:01:27.000 It does make you look...
00:01:28.000 It makes you work on your posture.
00:01:30.000 And one thing I did, another thing that I came here today, and it was my intent, Joe, to break all the stereotypes.
00:01:36.000 So I got here 20 minutes earlier.
00:01:39.000 Then I was supposed to be here.
00:01:40.000 You can't join me as late.
00:01:41.000 You're in force materials type.
00:01:43.000 And I wore a suit without a court date, without a funeral, and without a marriage proceeding.
00:01:49.000 So this is the whole thing of Donnell in a new day and changing his life.
00:01:54.000 I'm going through a transition.
00:01:56.000 What motivated this?
00:01:59.000 Law& Order?
00:02:00.000 No.
00:02:01.000 Law& Order didn't motivate this.
00:02:05.000 Law& Order, first off, Law& Order is one of the most respected franchises in the history of television.
00:02:11.000 It's been around a long time.
00:02:12.000 Shout out to...
00:02:13.000 Shout out to Ice-T. Shout out to Dick Wolf, and shout out to everybody that's a part of that.
00:02:19.000 And they say in New York, they say that you can't call yourself an actor That makes sense.
00:02:29.000 I mean, how many versions do they have?
00:02:32.000 I've been in every...
00:02:33.000 When I first began in my career, people really thought I was a dramatic actor more than a comic.
00:02:38.000 I was booking a lot of stuff.
00:02:39.000 I've been on every one of the episodes, not episodes, or shows, and out of them, I think 80% of them, I was arrested.
00:02:50.000 And I was like, wait a minute.
00:02:52.000 Am I getting typecast?
00:02:53.000 Every time I was able to play action, I'm like this.
00:02:55.000 And what'd I do?
00:02:57.000 What'd I do this time?
00:02:58.000 Every one.
00:02:59.000 Every one of them, I got arrested for something.
00:03:01.000 How many of them are there?
00:03:03.000 How many law and orders are there, Jamie?
00:03:04.000 Intent.
00:03:04.000 Special victims.
00:03:05.000 Special victims.
00:03:09.000 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna say five.
00:03:12.000 Five different Law& Orders.
00:03:14.000 Homicide was technically part of it too.
00:03:16.000 Okay.
00:03:16.000 Oh wait, no, this is related, never mind, hold on.
00:03:18.000 You got Law& Order, Special Victims Unit.
00:03:23.000 Two.
00:03:23.000 Organized Crime.
00:03:24.000 Three.
00:03:25.000 Adaptive series, Law& Order Toronto, Criminal Intent, Law& Order, Criminal Intent, Trial by Jury, LA, True Crime, Hate Crimes.
00:03:35.000 Oh, this is in development.
00:03:37.000 Hate Crimes for the defense.
00:03:39.000 They're going to have a whole show dedicated to hate crimes.
00:03:44.000 But that brand is like, and I don't think those guys, I mean, Dick Wolf and Arthur Formy, when I first, I did it years ago, when I first did it, Arthur Formy was the director when I did it.
00:03:55.000 And that was like, I think like in 2000. And then recently, people love to watch those shows where they get the bad guy.
00:04:04.000 Yeah.
00:04:05.000 You have to catch the bad guy.
00:04:07.000 And you have to have a bad guy.
00:04:08.000 You have to have a bad guy and you gotta catch him.
00:04:11.000 But everybody is more interested in the bad guy more than anything.
00:04:16.000 That's in life in general.
00:04:18.000 That's why you find so many people that necessarily don't have a lot of talent but they subscribe to the bad guy side of it and want to be negative and then everybody draws to that.
00:04:28.000 The bad guy is winning like a motherfucker.
00:04:31.000 The bad guy is winning.
00:04:33.000 No way.
00:04:35.000 Yes.
00:04:35.000 In what way?
00:04:36.000 I'll just say like this, and I'm not being specific to anybody in general, even in the world of podcasts right now, the model for a lot of people now is like, Say some outlandish shit.
00:04:52.000 Say some shit that's going to piss somebody off.
00:04:54.000 Say some shit that's going to make people hate you.
00:04:58.000 And now you have a platform.
00:05:00.000 And you have a successful platform because at the end of the day, with this, it's all about engagement.
00:05:06.000 It's all about can you get people to engage?
00:05:10.000 And at the end of the day, if you can do that, whether people like you or not, you win.
00:05:17.000 Sort of.
00:05:18.000 But I think people get tired of that.
00:05:20.000 They get tired of conflict.
00:05:22.000 If your whole business is conflict, people don't want to be in conflict all the time.
00:05:26.000 And they realize that a lot of conflict is unnecessary.
00:05:29.000 And if you're the type of person that likes to talk about conflict constantly and talk about it online, you probably also are willingly participating in it, maybe a little too willingly.
00:05:38.000 Like maybe you're getting...
00:05:41.000 You know, you're creating problems, creating problems in your own life, even as you get attention.
00:05:47.000 Like, be careful what you wish for.
00:05:48.000 Because if you're known for just talking shit about people, and then you become successful, then people are going to talk shit about you.
00:05:56.000 They're all going to come after you.
00:05:58.000 Yeah, but the people that like that, they don't have a conscience to even care about that.
00:06:03.000 Yeah, but everybody has a conscience.
00:06:05.000 I just think we accept a certain amount of bullshit.
00:06:09.000 We accept it.
00:06:10.000 And I think you should just concentrate on doing whatever the fuck you do well.
00:06:15.000 You don't have to just say outlandish shit and be so negative.
00:06:20.000 I just don't think it's necessary.
00:06:22.000 You don't, but you are living in a different world than black Twitter.
00:06:29.000 It does work.
00:06:30.000 It gets people's attention.
00:06:32.000 The people you're speaking to?
00:06:35.000 Yes.
00:06:35.000 But black Twitter?
00:06:36.000 I get it.
00:06:37.000 And on these urban sites?
00:06:39.000 Yeah.
00:06:40.000 You could be negative for years and [...
00:06:48.000 And that's the truth.
00:06:50.000 You're around a world of, oh, he's a jolly good fellow.
00:06:55.000 But in that dark world, in that black Twitter world, it's a lot, lot of negativity.
00:07:01.000 And it's very unfortunate.
00:07:02.000 That is unfortunate.
00:07:05.000 That's a very unfortunate thing.
00:07:08.000 I don't enjoy that.
00:07:10.000 Black Twitter?
00:07:11.000 No.
00:07:12.000 Insulting people.
00:07:13.000 Getting mad at people.
00:07:14.000 At a certain point in your life, I realized that there's no room for that in life.
00:07:19.000 You don't have to.
00:07:20.000 You can avoid it for the most part.
00:07:22.000 If you could avoid it in your immediate life, you could probably avoid it in your internet life too.
00:07:26.000 I think you avoid that conflict and negative energy the more successful you become.
00:07:32.000 Because I think that creates a I-don't-give-a-fuck-about-bullshit attitude.
00:07:36.000 I think a lot of the anger and a lot of frustration that comes with a lot of people is the beginning of the stage.
00:07:43.000 We were talking about it earlier.
00:07:49.000 Damn it.
00:07:50.000 Fuck.
00:07:50.000 You gave me that joint too quick.
00:07:51.000 You gave me that motherfucking joint too quick.
00:07:54.000 We were talking...
00:07:55.000 This is a bad one.
00:07:59.000 Yeah.
00:08:00.000 Because I tried to get that pause to get my thought back.
00:08:03.000 I don't know what the fuck you just gave me, but it just erased everything I was just thinking about.
00:08:08.000 You were talking about as you get successful, it's easier to avoid conflict, which I probably agree with.
00:08:15.000 Also, you're comfortable enough where you could recognize the patterns that are beneficial and not beneficial to you in your life.
00:08:24.000 And conflict is never beneficial to me.
00:08:27.000 Even conflict that I've engaged in that was necessary.
00:08:31.000 So that's been your entire, not even as a fucking young Joe Rogan, you didn't have the injury like, fuck this or fuck that motherfucker, I don't give a fuck.
00:08:39.000 You've always been this calm.
00:08:42.000 You've always been this collected and this calm your entire career.
00:08:45.000 No, definitely not.
00:08:46.000 So that goes to my point.
00:08:47.000 Yeah, but I learned how to do it.
00:08:49.000 Because I realized, you know what happened once, man?
00:08:52.000 This is a true story.
00:08:53.000 I was watching this dude on stage and I was hoping that he was bombing.
00:08:56.000 I was hoping he would bomb because he went on after me.
00:08:58.000 I didn't want him to do well.
00:09:00.000 And I realized, I go, what a bitch-ass way to think that is.
00:09:05.000 To want someone to not do well.
00:09:07.000 I was 21. And I'll never forget it.
00:09:09.000 But that's the age, though, Joe.
00:09:10.000 That's the age when you're like, fuck it.
00:09:12.000 That's it.
00:09:13.000 Night-night.
00:09:13.000 Bye-bye.
00:09:14.000 Well, at that age, everyone is so ambitious and competitive that was getting into comedy at that time that it was like...
00:09:25.000 There wasn't a lot of camaraderie between the open micers because everybody was super desperate.
00:09:30.000 Do you remember the desperate days where you weren't sure if you were ever going to be a professional?
00:09:36.000 There's desperate days.
00:09:38.000 I've never felt that way.
00:09:39.000 Never?
00:09:40.000 I'm telling you.
00:09:42.000 It's not being cocky or whatever you want to say.
00:09:45.000 I've never felt that way.
00:09:47.000 Back to open mics?
00:09:49.000 The first open mic I ever did, I got a standing ovation.
00:09:51.000 That's insane.
00:09:53.000 I got a stand-up ovation.
00:09:54.000 I think it wasn't a stand-up ovation because I had the best material.
00:09:58.000 I was the funniest.
00:10:00.000 But earlier on, I used to go to the comedy clubs and fuck with comedians, right?
00:10:05.000 And I probably shared this.
00:10:06.000 I used to heckle comedians.
00:10:07.000 And people started coming to the show to see me heckle.
00:10:12.000 So it was a thing.
00:10:13.000 This is why when people say I'm an interrupter, I've been an interrupter.
00:10:17.000 I've been interrupting before I even got on stage.
00:10:21.000 That's hilarious.
00:10:22.000 How old?
00:10:23.000 I had to be like 21 or 22. Perfect.
00:10:27.000 And the thing was, it started to build.
00:10:29.000 People started getting excited for me.
00:10:30.000 They knew that I was the guy in the audience that was funny.
00:10:33.000 But it was like some people in clubs that hang around, you'd be like, man, he should do it.
00:10:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:10:39.000 Or like one day he should try it.
00:10:40.000 So I had...
00:10:41.000 Ruined all other comedians' careers.
00:10:44.000 I used to destroy them.
00:10:46.000 They used to come up to me and be like, could you not fuck with me?
00:10:50.000 I'm working on some new material.
00:10:51.000 I'm like, it's my job to heckle you, and it's your job to try to be funny.
00:10:54.000 You were a professional heckler.
00:10:55.000 I was a professional heckler.
00:10:57.000 That is so insane.
00:10:58.000 So much that...
00:11:00.000 And I drew.
00:11:01.000 I was drawing an audience.
00:11:04.000 How does this happen?
00:11:06.000 It just happened.
00:11:08.000 And then...
00:11:09.000 Eventually, the club wanted me to shut the fuck up.
00:11:13.000 They were like, we'll shut his ass up if he go on stage.
00:11:16.000 And then the audience, people really started coming to see me talk shit.
00:11:20.000 And I think the first night I went on, I think it was to build up something people felt like, this dude is gone.
00:11:27.000 It felt like I was working for Safeway as a security guard in a grocery store.
00:11:31.000 And the first time I went on stage, all the people from my job used to come, they all looked at me like...
00:11:37.000 He's about to quit or get fired.
00:11:39.000 You know, it was just something that, by chance, I never thought about doing comedy.
00:11:44.000 I used to go there because I got free promotional tickets.
00:11:48.000 I never was the guy, when I was younger, at 13, when I first looked into the mirror, I knew that comedy is what I wanted to do.
00:11:55.000 It was never that.
00:11:56.000 It just so happened, being in that situation, I went up, I ripped it, and when I ripped it, the first time I went on stage, I knew, I was like, this is what I will be doing For the rest of my life.
00:12:09.000 And with that thought, Joe, I didn't feel like, I'm gonna be rich, I'm gonna be famous, I'm going to have a TV show?
00:12:19.000 For the first time I went on the stage, only thing I want to do is be good.
00:12:22.000 That's almost to this point in my career now.
00:12:25.000 I'm like, if you're good, and this applies to anything in life, if you're good at something, and you're really good at it, and you're passionate about it, and you study it, and you just live by that, eventually you're going to get the rewards of that.
00:12:37.000 I never was like, I'm going to get a TV show.
00:12:39.000 I was just like, man, if I'm good, I'm going to be able to work at this club.
00:12:43.000 If I'm good, I'll be able to work at this club.
00:12:45.000 And then things will start Happening for me.
00:12:48.000 So I think when I first started, my friends and family, they was really, really rooting for me to do it.
00:12:54.000 And the moment I went on stage, I was like, this is what I will be doing for the rest of my life.
00:13:00.000 Wow.
00:13:00.000 And never thinking about it's going to make me rich or anything.
00:13:03.000 Do you ever feel guilty that you started off as a heckler now that you're a comedian?
00:13:14.000 Yo, Joe, I gotta be honest, man, Joe.
00:13:16.000 I gotta be honest.
00:13:17.000 I like heckling motherfuckers, Joe.
00:13:20.000 I'm a natural-born heckler.
00:13:23.000 In D.C., we call it Jonan.
00:13:26.000 Jonan.
00:13:27.000 Why did it be called Jonan?
00:13:29.000 I don't know why they called it Jonan, but it was just roasting.
00:13:32.000 It was the black way of saying it.
00:13:33.000 If you want to compare it, it was like roasting.
00:13:36.000 What an interesting word, Jonan.
00:13:37.000 Jonan.
00:13:37.000 Why did they come up with that?
00:13:39.000 Do you think that was a person who was really good at it?
00:13:41.000 I don't know if it was a dude named Jon.
00:13:44.000 I don't know.
00:13:45.000 That doesn't make sense.
00:13:46.000 I don't know the history.
00:13:48.000 A lot of black words, I'm not going to know the history of it.
00:13:50.000 You might want to Google...
00:13:54.000 Have you ever heard that, Jamie?
00:13:55.000 No.
00:13:56.000 Urban Dictionary.
00:13:57.000 Do you ever use that as a resource, Jamie?
00:13:59.000 Yeah, go for it.
00:14:01.000 Urban Dixner has saved a lot of white people that cook out to barbecues.
00:14:09.000 I used to love heckling.
00:14:12.000 I didn't know you couldn't heckle into it.
00:14:14.000 In comedy, there's an unwritten rule.
00:14:15.000 It was like, you can't...
00:14:17.000 The rule is, you can't...
00:14:20.000 Jonan.
00:14:21.000 Put down and make fun of someone.
00:14:23.000 Yep.
00:14:24.000 Quit jonan on me.
00:14:25.000 You'll get smacked.
00:14:26.000 I wonder who Joan was.
00:14:29.000 Joan?
00:14:29.000 Joan?
00:14:32.000 No, I don't think.
00:14:36.000 I know this fool ain't Jonan.
00:14:38.000 Whoa, let me get that part, Joe.
00:14:40.000 Let me get the rest.
00:14:43.000 I'll take the second half.
00:14:44.000 You get the first half, I get the second.
00:14:47.000 Does that make sense?
00:14:49.000 It could be someone just joking.
00:14:52.000 There's probably just someone named Jonan that was really good at insulting people.
00:14:56.000 No, no, no.
00:14:56.000 I understand that sentence.
00:15:00.000 Where I came from, that's what it was.
00:15:01.000 The joke on the nigga.
00:15:03.000 That's what it was.
00:15:05.000 Urban Dictionary nailed it.
00:15:07.000 That's what it was.
00:15:08.000 But it wasn't like script.
00:15:09.000 It wasn't like you had writers or anything like that.
00:15:13.000 It was just you.
00:15:14.000 In the moment.
00:15:15.000 In the moment.
00:15:15.000 You look at that person up and down and you just go for it.
00:15:19.000 And I used to, oh man, I used to joan motherfuckers out.
00:15:22.000 And then the rule was in comedy, you're not supposed to yell out.
00:15:26.000 In comedy, you're not supposed to joan or say anything to another comic, which I fucking hate this rule.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, people don't like to be interrupted, Dono.
00:15:34.000 I know, but don't...
00:15:35.000 Not everybody likes to do it your way.
00:15:37.000 All right, but Joe, have you ever felt, and you have discipline, you've been watching a motherfucker, and you just like...
00:15:46.000 I just want to say something.
00:15:48.000 You never felt like, I just want to say something.
00:15:50.000 I don't want to wait until you get off stage.
00:15:52.000 I want to just say something in that moment.
00:15:55.000 Especially if you've had a drink.
00:15:57.000 Yeah.
00:15:58.000 I've been in that situation.
00:15:59.000 If you've had a drink and you're like, this is nonsense.
00:16:01.000 You just want to yell out.
00:16:02.000 And it's not to be like, Nasty enough, you just can't help it anymore.
00:16:07.000 You just feel like you gotta say something.
00:16:09.000 It's so funny, so years ago, me and Tracy Morgan was at a show, and me and Tracy Morgan started comedy about the same time, and he was like, man, I'm sick of these wack motherfuckers, man.
00:16:18.000 He said, I just want to say something.
00:16:19.000 I said, but you know, you can't heckle the comedians.
00:16:21.000 He said, we should do a tour, right?
00:16:24.000 Go all across the country to comedy clubs, not to perform, just to heckle motherfuckers from the seats, which I thought was a fucking brilliant idea.
00:16:33.000 That would be so...
00:16:35.000 You talk about something that builds character?
00:16:38.000 It's almost like a roast battle.
00:16:40.000 Can you imagine putting mediocre comedians on stage and having great comics in the audience heckle them?
00:16:46.000 Yep.
00:16:47.000 You know what?
00:16:47.000 That would be terrifying.
00:16:48.000 It would be terrifying, but guess what?
00:16:50.000 I guarantee you, Joe, if you had 20...
00:16:59.000 Yeah.
00:17:01.000 Yeah.
00:17:15.000 What out of your material is bullshit if you have to do it in front of people that you respect?
00:17:19.000 It's gonna make you step your shit up.
00:17:21.000 Or it's gonna make you have enough attitude and personality to pull any joke off.
00:17:28.000 Because you know what it is.
00:17:30.000 Half the shit that you deliver, for the most part, is stage presence.
00:17:34.000 Yeah.
00:17:35.000 It stays present.
00:17:36.000 You know, it's how you respond, how do you react to an audience coming at you.
00:17:41.000 Dude, Dave Attell was at the mothership this weekend, and I saw him Sunday night.
00:17:48.000 Man, I don't know if there's a funnier person that's ever existed.
00:17:52.000 You know what?
00:17:53.000 He's so funny.
00:17:54.000 Whenever I see his face, first off, if you see Dave Attell's face now, you saw it 30 years ago.
00:18:00.000 Yeah.
00:18:01.000 Yo, he's like the white Morgan Freeman of comedy.
00:18:04.000 Like, he's been how he looks forever, with a different color black hoodie on.
00:18:10.000 Yeah.
00:18:10.000 And it's so funny you mention his name, because something came on my thread like a day ago, and Dave Taylor's the type of guy, not even hearing what he said, you look at him and you say, I said, I need to write more jokes.
00:18:23.000 You're like somebody, their mere presence lets you know you gotta write more jokes.
00:18:28.000 Because out of all the years, and I've watched David Till 30 years.
00:18:32.000 I can't remember a time when he hasn't went on stage with the mindset, I'm working on some new shit.
00:18:38.000 Always.
00:18:39.000 Always.
00:18:40.000 Always.
00:18:40.000 Always.
00:18:41.000 And you're like, how the fuck can he keep...
00:18:43.000 That's what he does.
00:18:44.000 He's just like really focused on that one thing.
00:18:47.000 You know, he used to be an alcoholic.
00:18:50.000 And when he quit drinking, he got way better when he quit drinking, man.
00:18:54.000 You know, there's something happened to him.
00:18:57.000 Some comics, there's something that happens.
00:18:59.000 They're like, they're drunks when they're young and then they quit drinking and they're not as good anymore because they're not as fun.
00:19:04.000 Because when they were drunk, they were wild.
00:19:06.000 I figured out a way to balance both.
00:19:08.000 Young drunk and older drunk.
00:19:10.000 What I was going to say is that it tells the best example because what he did was he quit drinking and then immediately got way better and just keeps getting better.
00:19:19.000 All that focus is now just on stand-up.
00:19:23.000 I get it.
00:19:24.000 I think about that sometimes.
00:19:27.000 Dude, he was so good.
00:19:28.000 It was mind-blowing.
00:19:30.000 He was just on fire.
00:19:32.000 He has a recorder.
00:19:33.000 He plays like a little flute.
00:19:34.000 I saw that.
00:19:34.000 That's the clip that came up.
00:19:36.000 And I just thought the one part, I remember he said, you have this instrument, and he said, you have the head, the shaft, and the taint.
00:19:42.000 He was referenced the flute or whatever it was.
00:19:48.000 Of course it was a penis, but I was like, that was just, fuck, he's nice and shit at it.
00:19:52.000 He's got like a formula in his mind of how to make fun of everything.
00:19:59.000 And he's so in tune right now that he can just kind of plug it into any subject.
00:20:05.000 He just starts writing material.
00:20:08.000 He's always working on it.
00:20:10.000 But he's not a fun guy to hang out with.
00:20:12.000 He's fun to hang out with.
00:20:13.000 What?
00:20:14.000 I like hanging out with him.
00:20:15.000 Man, I get nervous.
00:20:16.000 I feel like he's about to be on Law& Order or something.
00:20:18.000 When I hang out with Dave, Dave will be talking to you, then all of a sudden he just disappears.
00:20:22.000 But maybe it's just me, but yeah, he's not the party guy.
00:20:26.000 He was fun hanging out at the mothership.
00:20:28.000 It was like, because we have like the green room.
00:20:31.000 It's like a nice, relaxing place where everybody can hang out together.
00:20:35.000 But he's, you know, he's an odd guy.
00:20:38.000 He carries around a flip phone.
00:20:40.000 He texts you with do-do [...]-do.
00:20:43.000 Like when you press four R's to get a...
00:20:45.000 Right.
00:20:45.000 Oh, he's still on the old school text?
00:20:47.000 Yeah.
00:20:47.000 You gotta press it five times to get an ass or whatever it is.
00:20:50.000 You remember those?
00:20:51.000 I remember those.
00:20:52.000 He does that.
00:20:53.000 That's how he sends you a text message.
00:20:54.000 That's crazy.
00:20:55.000 He's doing that with a flip phone.
00:20:57.000 But that has kept him off of Diddy's yacht.
00:21:00.000 Yeah.
00:21:02.000 Not being connected?
00:21:04.000 Not being connected with too much communication keeps you out of those back rooms and keep you off those yachts.
00:21:10.000 You don't invite a person to the back room or to a yacht if he has their phone.
00:21:18.000 Something is very suspicious about that.
00:21:21.000 You don't get invited to those parties that get you movie deals.
00:21:29.000 That's just how they used to do Hollywood, man.
00:21:33.000 Old Hollywood is the shit.
00:21:34.000 Old Hollywood, that is exactly how they did everything.
00:21:38.000 Tarantino was telling us that one of the old producers had a bedroom in his office.
00:21:43.000 So he had his office, and you go into his office and he had a bedroom.
00:21:46.000 And the bedroom is where he would fuck all the starlets.
00:21:50.000 And so he was the producer, and if you're going to be in his movie, he's going to fuck you.
00:21:53.000 That's old school.
00:21:54.000 A bedroom.
00:21:55.000 In his office.
00:21:57.000 You know how many women sitting there listening to us saying, bring back the good old days?
00:22:06.000 You know, I do know you have some women like this.
00:22:09.000 Fuck that, I don't believe it.
00:22:10.000 But you do still have a couple of women like, I don't want to go to acting school.
00:22:16.000 I don't want to study.
00:22:18.000 I don't want to do anything.
00:22:20.000 I want to get it popping.
00:22:21.000 Well, it seems like there was a real, look, no disrespect to actors, but there's a lot of them.
00:22:29.000 And there's a lot of them that probably never make it.
00:22:33.000 That if they got the right breaks, they could have been as huge as some movie stars that exist today, right?
00:22:39.000 Wouldn't we agree on that?
00:22:40.000 I agree with that with acting and it with stand-up.
00:22:43.000 Yeah, but it's specifically for acting.
00:22:45.000 Because there's a lot of people that can just go into acting.
00:22:50.000 Like a lot of athletes have gone into acting and done amazing jobs.
00:22:55.000 But not too many of them are good, though.
00:22:57.000 You still see Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
00:23:01.000 Okay.
00:23:02.000 Who was in that Adam Sandler movie with basketball player?
00:23:06.000 Rick Fox?
00:23:07.000 I know Rick Fox was taking it really, really seriously.
00:23:09.000 Kevin Garnett, that's right.
00:23:11.000 He's in that Uncut Gems movie, and he's fucking great.
00:23:16.000 He's not an actor.
00:23:19.000 It wouldn't work the other way.
00:23:20.000 You couldn't get a guy to do just stand-up and just be fucking great who's never done stand-up.
00:23:26.000 But you can get an actor out of a basketball player.
00:23:30.000 You could turn a fucking rancher into an actor.
00:23:33.000 Some guys can do it.
00:23:36.000 What role did he play?
00:23:38.000 He played a basketball player.
00:23:39.000 Come on, motherfucker!
00:23:41.000 But he played a dude who was ripping off Adam Sandler.
00:23:43.000 Did you hear what the fuck you just said?
00:23:44.000 But he played a dude who was ripping off Adam Sandler.
00:23:46.000 It doesn't matter, Joe.
00:23:48.000 I get that.
00:23:49.000 I thought you was going to say he played a rocket scientist.
00:23:53.000 I'm just saying, listen, when he was doing his lines to Adam Sandler, it's very realistic.
00:24:03.000 That he's a basketball player.
00:24:05.000 That he's not just a basketball player.
00:24:06.000 He's a basketball player that's ripping off Adam Sandler.
00:24:10.000 He steals a rock from him.
00:24:11.000 He doesn't want to give a rock back.
00:24:12.000 There's no way that Kevin Garnett could have fucking ruined this role.
00:24:18.000 Even Joe, listen to me.
00:24:19.000 Are you hating?
00:24:20.000 I'm not hating what I'm trying to explain.
00:24:22.000 I feel like he's hating.
00:24:23.000 No, I'm not.
00:24:23.000 Don't start it, man.
00:24:25.000 Black Twitter will come for me.
00:24:26.000 I'm not saying that.
00:24:28.000 There is no way he could have been bad playing a basketball player.
00:24:35.000 He was good, dude.
00:24:37.000 I mean, it's a good scene.
00:24:38.000 Okay, let me see.
00:24:42.000 Yeah, we can't watch this.
00:24:43.000 We'll get in trouble.
00:24:45.000 Alright, you can't watch it, but I just want to see him stand up.
00:24:48.000 Because right there, I can see the dramatic side you're saying, but when he stands up, He's playing a basketball player.
00:24:55.000 He is, but I'm telling you, it's not about that.
00:24:57.000 It's about gambling addicts.
00:24:59.000 The whole thing's about gambling addicts.
00:25:01.000 The whole movie's about gambling addicts.
00:25:02.000 It's a fucking amazing movie.
00:25:04.000 Right.
00:25:04.000 I mean, I'm not even seeing the dialogue.
00:25:07.000 I mean, hearing it or anything.
00:25:08.000 I could see, like, his face looks innocent, but I still see a basketball Kevin Garnett basketball player.
00:25:14.000 It's just tough.
00:25:15.000 Yeah, I know what you're saying, but he's...
00:25:17.000 And is that a Celtic, and it's a basketball ring?
00:25:20.000 Yeah.
00:25:20.000 Yeah.
00:25:21.000 Joe, he played a basketball player.
00:25:23.000 Yeah, but he played himself in this movie.
00:25:26.000 He's doing this thing where he's involved in gambling addiction.
00:25:30.000 They're all just making crazy bets.
00:25:33.000 Dude, the movie will give you anxiety.
00:25:35.000 I'll check it out.
00:25:37.000 Like, real anxiety.
00:25:38.000 Like, oh, don't fucking do it!
00:25:41.000 Don't fucking do it!
00:25:42.000 And Kevin Garnett is a good guy.
00:25:45.000 I wasn't trying to shit on him.
00:25:46.000 I know you are.
00:25:47.000 What I'm saying is that, like, Because the minute you start, Joe, you say, why are you hating?
00:25:52.000 The next thing you know, I'm being attacked by every urban block in the country.
00:26:00.000 Joe Rogan was hating on Cameron Garnett.
00:26:03.000 Niggas shouldn't act.
00:26:04.000 He should just play basketball.
00:26:05.000 That was certainly not my words.
00:26:07.000 I know it's not your words, but it was the passion of my words.
00:26:10.000 And that's how it starts.
00:26:11.000 Even that's not what you really meant.
00:26:14.000 What I'm saying is, like, I think out of all the things, acting is probably, even though some people are ingenious at it, don't get me wrong, the most doable to a person.
00:26:28.000 Like, that's the most...
00:26:29.000 I mean, it's...
00:26:33.000 You're most likely to be able to figure out how to do it.
00:26:36.000 You might not ever be able to figure out how to sing.
00:26:38.000 You might not ever be able to figure out how to do stand-up.
00:26:41.000 But you could probably figure out how to act.
00:26:45.000 Just pretend.
00:26:47.000 Pretend and then you could get trained.
00:26:49.000 But I still think it's something inside of you as an actor that takes you above the person just like equally trained.
00:26:58.000 There's something that drives you to want to do something different and make different choices as an actor.
00:27:03.000 Yeah, it's called being mentally ill.
00:27:06.000 I agree with you 100%.
00:27:08.000 Most actors have some type of mental disorder.
00:27:12.000 Think about it.
00:27:13.000 It's like you're playing make-believe.
00:27:15.000 All the time, professionally.
00:27:17.000 All the time.
00:27:17.000 And then, if you get really famous for playing make-believe...
00:27:20.000 At a certain point in time, you're probably like, who the fuck am I? Who actually am I? Oh, who do I want to be?
00:27:26.000 Yeah, I mean, but you think you are this person because you are getting all this adoration from all these people that see you play different people in movies.
00:27:37.000 Like, they don't even know you.
00:27:38.000 Right.
00:27:38.000 And then you're like, what the fuck?
00:27:40.000 How weird is this world that I've created where everybody loves me and they like me to pretend to be different people?
00:27:46.000 Like, who the fuck?
00:27:47.000 Fuck am I? But at the same time, you can give whoever you want to be that day.
00:27:51.000 I think we fucking, when we wake up in the morning, we get in acting mode.
00:27:55.000 You go to bed, you fucked up about something, and you wake up in the morning, you're like, you know what?
00:28:00.000 Fuck that bitch.
00:28:00.000 I'm going to have a great day.
00:28:03.000 You're acting like you're not dealing with what you did the day before.
00:28:06.000 I think that's a part of our life.
00:28:08.000 You, and I know this is a crazy question, you've heard it before, and it's like a generic question when you have a comedian that's done some acting stuff.
00:28:16.000 Is it more challenging for you acting or more challenging as a stand-up developing new material?
00:28:26.000 Well, it depends on what you'd be doing for acting.
00:28:30.000 Like, I've never done a real dramatic movie or a dramatic role in a TV show.
00:28:35.000 Everything I've ever done has just been silly.
00:28:39.000 So, that's a different kind of acting.
00:28:41.000 Like comic acting is, you know, it's just, it's basically like scripted shit talking.
00:28:45.000 Yeah, but at some point, even with acting, there's a moment, this is the scariest part for me.
00:28:51.000 I can go in front of 25,000 and thank you, you've created platforms where I can do that many people.
00:28:57.000 I can go in front of 25,000 people and it feels...
00:29:00.000 And I can hear, and it feels amazing.
00:29:04.000 But it's the silence of when you know there's like 150 people behind the camera that relying on what you do right now.
00:29:13.000 And that silence, quiet, When everybody's completely focused on that one person, one that got to deliver that line and then action, that shit is terrifying.
00:29:25.000 That shit is fucking...
00:29:28.000 I'm telling you, I've done shows with you and Dave where you guys created platforms that come out in the arena like I'm about to beat the fucking world up.
00:29:36.000 But the minute you say, quiet, and you're like, and...
00:29:40.000 Action.
00:29:42.000 Action!
00:29:43.000 And then you gotta go.
00:29:44.000 And you gotta really rehearse that thing.
00:29:47.000 Really know what you're saying while you're saying it.
00:29:50.000 Because you have to repeat these words in that order.
00:29:53.000 You're not freestyling.
00:29:55.000 You said earlier, all the acting stuff, you've been silly stuff.
00:29:58.000 I think maybe first four or five years of my career, Everything I booked was dramatic.
00:30:09.000 Nobody thought I was a comedian or, if you want to say, a comedian actor into The Chappelle Show.
00:30:16.000 I had did, like, all of the law and orders.
00:30:19.000 I had did HBO's The Corner where I played a heroin addict.
00:30:27.000 I think this was like the third audition I ever went on.
00:30:30.000 Third audition I ever went on.
00:30:33.000 Davis Simon, Alex Foley.
00:30:35.000 She's a big, big time Foley or Foley.
00:30:39.000 It's been a long time since I've been in New York, so I might be saying her last name.
00:30:41.000 But she cast all that.
00:30:43.000 The Wire, Sopranos, all that stuff.
00:30:49.000 I went into an interview.
00:30:50.000 I went into an audition.
00:30:52.000 For The Wire.
00:30:53.000 I'm sorry, this was Jackie Brown-Carmen.
00:30:55.000 Alex was when we went back and did The Wire.
00:30:59.000 But for The Corner, it was Jackie Brown-Carmen.
00:31:02.000 I went in for this audition.
00:31:03.000 The audition was as a heroin addict.
00:31:08.000 Charles Dutton directed this series.
00:31:11.000 It won three Emmys.
00:31:16.000 I played the character Britt.
00:31:17.000 That's my friend Clark Peters.
00:31:19.000 He's an incredible, incredible fucking Theater actor came from the theater background.
00:31:26.000 So I'm doing an audition, Joe.
00:31:28.000 And I'm green as shit in an audition.
00:31:31.000 And I'm like, man, I'm fucking this shit up.
00:31:33.000 Man, I ain't gonna get this shit.
00:31:34.000 Jackie Brown Carmen said, Donnell, relax.
00:31:37.000 Be calm.
00:31:38.000 God is in the room.
00:31:40.000 You'll be okay.
00:31:42.000 And I fuck with God, but I didn't know if God goes to auditions with you or not, and how much it would help, right?
00:31:48.000 And I did my lines again, and I still thought I fumbled it.
00:31:51.000 I was like, man, I understand her support or whatever.
00:31:54.000 I'm like, man, fuck this shit.
00:31:55.000 I just start saying anything, right?
00:31:58.000 Four days later, I swear, sometimes you do an audition, you kind of feel when you're going to at least get a call back.
00:32:05.000 Right.
00:32:06.000 They get a call, they said, you booked it.
00:32:08.000 I was like, what the fuck?
00:32:10.000 I was like, I could not believe it.
00:32:12.000 I was like, I don't know how the fuck that happened.
00:32:13.000 I was like, I know I wasn't prepared.
00:32:16.000 I was just saying anything, and I wanted to get the fuck out of here and just go run right back to the stage.
00:32:20.000 Fuck acting.
00:32:20.000 I want to work on my jokes.
00:32:22.000 So we get on set, David Simon.
00:32:24.000 He was the original writer of the book, The Corner, with another police officer.
00:32:30.000 He did police journalism in Baltimore.
00:32:33.000 So I saw him on set, and I was like, I got a question.
00:32:35.000 He was like, man, thanks for being part of it.
00:32:37.000 I was like, I got a question.
00:32:39.000 I just had to know, right?
00:32:40.000 I was like, I said, how the fuck did I get this role?
00:32:43.000 Right?
00:32:43.000 I'm already booked.
00:32:44.000 I said, I swear I thought I bombed that audition.
00:32:48.000 And he said, Donnell, we like the way you threw the lines away.
00:32:54.000 Right?
00:32:54.000 So if you mean not prepared...
00:32:56.000 He said, we like the fact that you threw the lines away.
00:33:00.000 And he said, another thing, you didn't feed into the stereotype of the guy's addiction.
00:33:05.000 Because everybody that was going in there was just going straight to the lean of the addiction.
00:33:10.000 The worst part of it, being high.
00:33:13.000 In the audition, they didn't want to see that.
00:33:15.000 They wanted to see who is this person not being high.
00:33:19.000 And because I was off, because I said fuck it, I'm gonna just say it my way, that's what fucking got me to roll on that shit.
00:33:28.000 Well, that's probably the hardest thing to do, is to just say, just a free ball.
00:33:34.000 And just say, I don't even remember the lines, but this is what I would fucking say.
00:33:40.000 But if you do that...
00:33:42.000 But some platforms, they will allow that.
00:33:45.000 Then you get sticklers.
00:33:46.000 When you start talking about HBO and those guys, it's like they want you to say every word that was on that fucking paper.
00:33:52.000 Yeah, but they also want someone who really sounds like they can say those words.
00:33:57.000 Agreed.
00:34:00.000 There's things that a person has, like a type of charisma that a person has, like a person like yourself, that you either have that or you don't.
00:34:11.000 And if you have it, and you can deliver it in some form Some way.
00:34:16.000 You can be coached.
00:34:17.000 Someone can figure out, like, I'll help you memorize the lines.
00:34:22.000 We'll work through them together.
00:34:23.000 We'll go over things.
00:34:23.000 But in the end, it's you.
00:34:26.000 You gotta go be you.
00:34:28.000 But not everybody can even pretend to be you.
00:34:33.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:33.000 And everybody don't have the heart to take those chances.
00:34:36.000 And I've never been trained, but one thing that's always resonated when you talk about acting is, like, make a decision.
00:34:44.000 Right?
00:34:44.000 And let them bring you back.
00:34:47.000 You know what I mean?
00:34:47.000 It's better to go all out than to not do it and not...
00:34:52.000 When I was doing HBO's The Wire, there was one scene when I get pulled over in the car.
00:34:59.000 And I got like $30,000 of...
00:35:01.000 People don't know if it's drug money, political money, or whatever.
00:35:06.000 And I get arrested for it.
00:35:08.000 And then the next scene, some kind of way, they have to let me go.
00:35:13.000 With the money.
00:35:14.000 Basically, I came in with $30,000, and I'm leaving with $30,000.
00:35:19.000 And I just said, I'm going to do a little improv, right?
00:35:22.000 So it was like action.
00:35:23.000 And when I left out the room, I threw the money over the back of my show, and I said, some people got to have it.
00:35:32.000 Some people really don't let money change.
00:35:36.000 And then I looked back at the car and said, almighty dollar!
00:35:40.000 Everybody laughed, but they was like, nah, we ain't gonna be able to use that shit.
00:35:43.000 Bring it down.
00:35:44.000 But it's like making, like, at least they knew that I would take the chance.
00:35:49.000 You'll free ball.
00:35:50.000 Yeah, you'll be loose.
00:35:52.000 And that's the thing.
00:35:54.000 It's like some people just can't be loose.
00:35:57.000 They just can't figure that thing out to be free.
00:36:00.000 They're just always in their own way.
00:36:02.000 But I think for me, even when acting has made it fun, the times I get it, is that I've made enough success in comedy And create a pretty good lifestyle off of that,
00:36:17.000 that I don't have that pressure of having to book a role.
00:36:22.000 You know what I mean?
00:36:23.000 Like, a lot of actors now, it's like, if they gotta get this series, you know what I mean?
00:36:29.000 Right.
00:36:29.000 Just to continue the lifestyle they have.
00:36:31.000 So it's always, for me, acting's always been like, Oh, I'm just playing around.
00:36:35.000 It's fun.
00:36:36.000 I mean, you know, get it?
00:36:37.000 That's the best way to do it.
00:36:39.000 Especially if you, you know, if your stand-up is going well, like, everything just sort of can be fine.
00:36:46.000 You don't really care if you're doing a movie here or there.
00:36:48.000 But if you were only doing movies, like, those folks during the pandemic that kind of just went back to acting.
00:36:54.000 Right.
00:36:54.000 Because there were a few comics that just stopped.
00:36:56.000 I was sick during the pandemic.
00:36:58.000 I was so happy that shit was over because I got sick of these writers that we never heard about doing spots.
00:37:03.000 Yeah.
00:37:04.000 It was like this.
00:37:05.000 This guy wrote for Family Guy.
00:37:07.000 We're like, where the fuck have you been?
00:37:08.000 You ain't been in the trenches.
00:37:09.000 No, bro.
00:37:10.000 There's people that realize they have fucking mortgages.
00:37:12.000 Yeah.
00:37:13.000 That's what happens.
00:37:13.000 And then they realize, oh my God, I'm so connected to the TV system that if it goes down because of the pandemic or another pandemic, I don't work for a year and a half.
00:37:22.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:37:23.000 I think that made people have to figure out what their pivot was.
00:37:27.000 Yeah, well, you can't rely too much on a system that doesn't give a fuck about you.
00:37:33.000 And a system that, if you're paying attention to where it's going, a large amount of it is about to get sucked up by AI. Like a giant chunk.
00:37:43.000 Of the entertainment?
00:37:44.000 Yeah.
00:37:45.000 A giant chunk.
00:37:47.000 Tyler Perry, it was a story maybe like three weeks ago.
00:37:50.000 And I think he was in the middle of either producing a movie or doing something...
00:37:55.000 He was building an $800 million studio, and he paused the construction as soon as he saw...
00:38:02.000 What is it called?
00:38:03.000 Sora?
00:38:04.000 Sora.
00:38:05.000 It can create entire scenes.
00:38:07.000 Entire scenes.
00:38:08.000 Entire scenes that look realistic.
00:38:10.000 Have you seen it?
00:38:11.000 I haven't seen it.
00:38:12.000 Watch this.
00:38:13.000 This video came out yesterday, I think.
00:38:14.000 This is like a balloon head guy.
00:38:16.000 It's like a short film.
00:38:18.000 All these scenes, supposedly, I guess, are made by Sora.
00:38:21.000 This is all aeon.
00:38:23.000 Yeah, it's over.
00:38:26.000 I don't know about the audio that could be done afterwards.
00:38:29.000 It's just in my case, you know, it's quite obvious what that thing is.
00:38:33.000 I am literally filled with hot air.
00:38:36.000 Yeah, living like this has its challenges.
00:38:39.000 Windy days, for one, are particularly troublesome.
00:38:43.000 Well, there was one time my girlfriend insisted I go to the cactus store to get my uncle Jerry a wedding present.
00:38:49.000 This is crazy.
00:38:50.000 What do I love most about my predicament?
00:38:52.000 That's pretty well made.
00:38:54.000 And that's somebody just putting in the information and that's being created.
00:38:58.000 Yeah.
00:38:59.000 The New World Entertainment?
00:39:00.000 Joe, this is what my prediction is.
00:39:02.000 This is such a leap.
00:39:04.000 That is such a leap above everything else.
00:39:06.000 Now you add that too.
00:39:07.000 This is what's going to happen eventually.
00:39:10.000 And this is not the right thing to say, especially about Hollywood.
00:39:15.000 The idea of agencies The idea of A&R, all of those jobs are about to be gone.
00:39:25.000 And the only thing you're going to have is content creators.
00:39:28.000 And the content creators are going to cut the middleman of the agency out and they're going to go straight to the advertisers and the people that pay the money.
00:39:38.000 You having to be connected with a certain entity or a certain agency, and they probably kill me after this, Joe.
00:39:47.000 This makes me Illuminati right now.
00:39:49.000 They gonna kill me, Joe.
00:39:51.000 Cat Williams and everybody coming for my neck.
00:39:54.000 I'm telling you, it's gonna come where all of those things that you needed to make it aren't gonna exist anymore.
00:40:04.000 And we're close to that right now.
00:40:07.000 Well, we already lost sitcoms.
00:40:09.000 So sitcoms were number one.
00:40:11.000 That was like a number one job for a comedian, you get your own show.
00:40:15.000 Yeah, that was the only job you wanted.
00:40:16.000 That was the job that everybody wanted.
00:40:18.000 And then they had comedy movies.
00:40:21.000 Well, comedy movies have been drastically reduced.
00:40:23.000 So the sitcom's gone.
00:40:25.000 And then the comedy movies have drastically been reduced.
00:40:28.000 But what if most people wanted that for, Joe?
00:40:30.000 What if the comedians wanted that for two things?
00:40:35.000 Money and fame.
00:40:36.000 Yeah, because there was no social media and there was no YouTube.
00:40:40.000 And so ticket sales were really dependent upon you being on a television show.
00:40:45.000 100%.
00:40:45.000 Yeah, it was a big factor.
00:40:47.000 And this is why you probably heard this.
00:40:49.000 And it's a conversation, especially when it comes to comedy.
00:40:53.000 You got the YouTube comedians.
00:40:56.000 You got the social media comedians.
00:40:58.000 Like, comedy now is broken down into so many definitions of what comedy is now.
00:41:04.000 When we first started, there was only one definition.
00:41:06.000 The minute you heard someone say comedian, it was nothing but a guy who grabs a mic, stands flat-footed, and entertains an audience.
00:41:15.000 It wasn't a comedian on boats.
00:41:17.000 It wasn't that.
00:41:18.000 When you say comedian, you just associate it with...
00:41:22.000 You know, I mean, just like, no disrespect to the cruise guys.
00:41:27.000 Is that what you're talking about?
00:41:27.000 Yeah, they find their lane and they love it.
00:41:29.000 But that's a tough life, man.
00:41:31.000 That's a tough life.
00:41:32.000 That's a tough life.
00:41:33.000 Trapped on that boat telling them some fucking jokes.
00:41:36.000 But then some people got mouths to feed.
00:41:38.000 Some people like this.
00:41:39.000 That is what it is.
00:41:40.000 They look at the level of competition.
00:41:42.000 They look at this.
00:41:42.000 They be like this.
00:41:43.000 You know what?
00:41:44.000 And those guys are six figures.
00:41:45.000 Yeah, they make fake figures.
00:41:47.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:41:48.000 Most of the guys that do it, it didn't get to a point.
00:41:51.000 I've talked to guys that didn't like doing it.
00:41:54.000 They're like, it's kind of depressing for some reason.
00:41:56.000 Your first year or so is probably not, especially if you're doing like $30 spots in Brooklyn here.
00:42:03.000 That was a come up when I started.
00:42:06.000 When I started, it's like, oh, you're on cruise ships.
00:42:08.000 Really?
00:42:08.000 Oh, yeah.
00:42:09.000 Because we didn't really have a lot to look up to other than just making money off of it.
00:42:15.000 You know?
00:42:15.000 So that was, it was a regular job in stand-up comedy.
00:42:19.000 But the point I was making about, even with that, the different definition of comedienne people, and they always, they like, oh, the old heads have a way of thinking, yeah, this and that.
00:42:30.000 The thing that you have to credit It's the work ethics you have to have to get to a certain level.
00:42:38.000 If you want to say a social media comedian, it's a certain level, it's a certain work ethics you have to be to get consistent with that.
00:42:48.000 But the problem is, what some people have issues with is like, yeah, but some of them not that good.
00:42:55.000 You know how hard it is to get good at something when you're already a millionaire doing it at whatever level?
00:43:02.000 You know, what pushed us when we were coming up was that if I get good, I can get the money.
00:43:08.000 But now it's like they got the money, so what is the urgency unless you get that one or two that really, really care about the craft?
00:43:17.000 Who cares about being good at it when the end result is I'm getting paid off the shit?
00:43:22.000 Well, you always want to be good at what you do, don't you?
00:43:25.000 Some people, but the level of getting good at, now it's different.
00:43:29.000 Today, people are getting good at knowing algorithms.
00:43:33.000 There's a lot of that.
00:43:34.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:43:35.000 They get good at knowing what the system is, which is fucking incredible.
00:43:41.000 If you put talent on top of that, you know, it should be...
00:43:45.000 Yeah, if you're a smart person, you know how to really utilize the system.
00:43:50.000 I want to say manipulate, but that's the wrong word.
00:43:52.000 It really is utilize.
00:43:53.000 Like Mr. Beast, that's a perfect example.
00:43:57.000 That guy figured out how to make the right captions and how to make the right image that you click on for the YouTube videos, the right title.
00:44:08.000 And then he figured out how to just keep dumping money into his product.
00:44:13.000 And he figured out exactly where the algorithms are and he has it translated into different languages.
00:44:18.000 And that's a definite...
00:44:20.000 What I'm saying is...
00:44:22.000 That's the skill set that's going to get rid of a lot of jobs.
00:44:27.000 That guy's a unicorn though.
00:44:28.000 But here's the thing, I feel like if you have AI, like whatever the next generation of chat GPT is, You could be able to devise a very effective business plan that like really made sense.
00:44:45.000 The AI would sort of guide you step by step.
00:44:48.000 Like this is what you're gonna do to achieve success.
00:44:51.000 It'll probably even break it down.
00:44:52.000 If you write for 20 minutes every day, that will increase your time of material by 50 minutes over the course of the next 10 months, and if you do all the calculations, you're like, holy shit, is that real?
00:45:06.000 And if you really thought about it that way, like through artificial intelligence, you let it guide your career, it would probably do a fucking amazing job of putting you into the perfect position.
00:45:16.000 I mean, if artificial intelligence...
00:45:18.000 So we're gonna be auditioning against motherfuckers.
00:45:21.000 An artificial intelligence guy, you're sending your tape in, and then they got a motherfucker that's auditioning like this.
00:45:28.000 Hey, I need...
00:45:29.000 I need Joe to be a police officer, arrest these guys for stealing.
00:45:33.000 We have to realize we're that close to there being fake people.
00:45:39.000 We're that close.
00:45:40.000 Hopefully I'm dead before they show up.
00:45:42.000 No, it's not.
00:45:43.000 Because I already deal with regular fake people.
00:45:47.000 Now we got artificially creative fake people?
00:45:50.000 Oh, Hollywood is fucking dead.
00:45:52.000 They're in trouble.
00:45:53.000 Oh, Hollywood's dead.
00:45:54.000 No, no, no, no.
00:45:55.000 For real, though?
00:45:56.000 Hollywood's dead.
00:45:57.000 Just looking at that movie.
00:45:58.000 You buried it.
00:45:59.000 You helped bury it.
00:46:00.000 I didn't do shit.
00:46:00.000 Yes, you did.
00:46:01.000 What did I do?
00:46:01.000 I just abandoned ship.
00:46:03.000 You helped bury it.
00:46:07.000 You showed motherfuckers something you could do that they probably didn't think you could do.
00:46:12.000 Go somewhere, post up, do your shit, and create a whole fucking comedy community in Austin.
00:46:19.000 Yeah, I didn't think I could do it either.
00:46:21.000 You knew you could do it.
00:46:22.000 I did not know I could do it.
00:46:23.000 Yes, you knew you could do it.
00:46:24.000 I did not know I could do it.
00:46:25.000 I just did it.
00:46:26.000 That's why I'll tell you.
00:46:28.000 And you have...
00:46:30.000 You doing it.
00:46:30.000 A lot of people doing it.
00:46:31.000 But I did your club, The Mothership.
00:46:34.000 And it's like, anybody, not anybody, if you have enough money, you can build a nice club.
00:46:41.000 Right?
00:46:41.000 It's a nice club, state of the art, whatever.
00:46:45.000 But it doesn't make it a comedy community.
00:46:49.000 Right.
00:46:50.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:50.000 It's like, that's going to be the challenges of all these people that open up comedy clubs and stuff.
00:46:56.000 Dave has opened up one.
00:46:58.000 I think Mike Epps.
00:46:59.000 There's a lot of them popping up, and I think that's the dope thing.
00:47:02.000 But the thing is, it's a difference between having a comedy community.
00:47:09.000 Yeah, you have to do that on purpose.
00:47:11.000 And that's one of the things that we did when we opened up the club was set up a whole...
00:47:18.000 These are the nights you're going to have open mic.
00:47:22.000 We're going to have comedians audition to be door people so that they'll be able to see guys like Dave Attell, who's just there this weekend.
00:47:31.000 And then you'll have this very clear pathway.
00:47:34.000 There's like open mic night.
00:47:36.000 The talent coordinator will be there.
00:47:39.000 He'll be able to watch you.
00:47:40.000 Maybe he can even give you some tips.
00:47:42.000 Other comics can watch you.
00:47:43.000 They see you working the door.
00:47:45.000 You get to see all this great comedy.
00:47:47.000 You get to be around all this great comedy.
00:47:49.000 And then there's a A lot of places to go in town.
00:47:51.000 And we'll let you punch out.
00:47:53.000 Seven days a week, right?
00:47:53.000 They let people punch out.
00:47:54.000 Like a comic has a set down the street.
00:47:56.000 They can punch out, go run down the street, do a set, come back to work.
00:47:58.000 That's how it's supposed to be.
00:47:59.000 You do seven days a week, right?
00:48:00.000 Yeah, we're seven days a week.
00:48:01.000 That's how I gauge whenever I go.
00:48:03.000 And you don't never see anywhere.
00:48:04.000 Two nights open mic nights, too.
00:48:05.000 I always gauge a club.
00:48:06.000 Not gauge it, but you can tell how successful a club is if they can run fucking seven nights a week.
00:48:12.000 Well, it's...
00:48:14.000 You know, it was the perfect timing.
00:48:16.000 It's just a weird coincidence of all these things happening that opened all these doors at exactly the same time.
00:48:24.000 Like, it's like going down the street, and you hit every green light, like, magically, and it just goes.
00:48:29.000 You know, it's a system in New York.
00:48:31.000 If you, on those streets, Second Avenue, any of those streets, if you drive 28 miles an hour, You will catch every light from like 23rd Street to up 115. That's a fact.
00:48:43.000 I know you didn't know when I tried it.
00:48:44.000 I've heard that.
00:48:45.000 Yeah, if you do it, I think it's 28 miles an hour, you use a straight shot.
00:48:49.000 Wow.
00:48:50.000 A couple cats and dogs will get ran over in that process, but as long as you maintain that consistency of 28 miles an hour, you won't stop.
00:49:01.000 That was a fact that I know you didn't know.
00:49:04.000 I had heard that before.
00:49:06.000 I had heard that from cab drivers.
00:49:07.000 Is there anything you haven't heard, yo?
00:49:09.000 At this point in time, I always think that, but then Jonan comes along and throws me for a loop.
00:49:15.000 At 16. At 16, the last time I was here, you didn't know what a hot 16 was.
00:49:20.000 That's right.
00:49:21.000 I didn't.
00:49:22.000 Yeah.
00:49:23.000 But you asked me about this suit.
00:49:26.000 It looks sweet.
00:49:27.000 And as I'm watching myself from the camera, I'm like, did I go overboard with this suit?
00:49:30.000 No, no, no, no.
00:49:31.000 You look great.
00:49:32.000 I wish I knew.
00:49:33.000 I would have wore a suit, too.
00:49:34.000 I like wearing a suit.
00:49:35.000 I know.
00:49:36.000 I remember when we was doing...
00:49:37.000 Yeah, we did those arenas.
00:49:39.000 Arena shows.
00:49:40.000 And your whole energy changed when you had a suit on.
00:49:44.000 Like I did on my special.
00:49:46.000 I said, stomp my feet.
00:49:47.000 You start stomping your feet.
00:49:48.000 And you said, you know, you could do yourself, but it's just something about...
00:49:51.000 Something that's classic about being able to do stand-up in the suit.
00:49:56.000 There is something about it.
00:49:57.000 And that's how I felt.
00:49:58.000 Even when I did New Day, first off, this was my third time shooting this special.
00:50:06.000 I told you the story.
00:50:07.000 Yes.
00:50:08.000 And I remember, and I was really getting stressed, because every time I saw you, you would be like, when is the special coming out?
00:50:15.000 I'm like, I don't know.
00:50:17.000 I fucking shot the shit.
00:50:19.000 I don't know.
00:50:20.000 First time I did the special during the pandemic, at the end of the pandemic, when the clubs still had all this COVID protocol.
00:50:31.000 They had masks on.
00:50:32.000 Yeah, masks on.
00:50:34.000 Vaccination cards.
00:50:35.000 Have you been tested?
00:50:36.000 And what shot you had?
00:50:37.000 Johnson& Johnson and all that shit.
00:50:39.000 We did it in North Carolina.
00:50:42.000 And Outback was already against it because the venue I chose, it held 600 people.
00:50:46.000 I think it was the Fillmore Theater, 600, 700 people.
00:50:49.000 And we had a sale of 700 people.
00:50:52.000 But then when Netflix was like, ah, where's your card?
00:50:55.000 Ah, where's this?
00:50:56.000 It went down.
00:50:57.000 The first show went down to like 250 people.
00:50:59.000 Oh, they had to have vaccine cards to get in?
00:51:01.000 All of that shit.
00:51:02.000 Which means now in the back of the show, you gotta put a black curtain.
00:51:07.000 Oh no.
00:51:08.000 Now you like looking at like a half-filled audience.
00:51:12.000 They got masks on and shit.
00:51:14.000 Oh no.
00:51:15.000 Did the show.
00:51:16.000 First show went well.
00:51:17.000 Right?
00:51:18.000 First show went well.
00:51:19.000 And then Dave was like, because he produced it, Dave said, you know, if we don't get it, we can shoot it again.
00:51:25.000 I'm like, motherfucker, ain't no time to shoot this.
00:51:27.000 We don't get it this time.
00:51:28.000 Second time at it, I caught it standing though.
00:51:32.000 Stan Latham going crazy.
00:51:33.000 Ricky Hughes going crazy.
00:51:34.000 We're like, oh, we got it.
00:51:35.000 We got it.
00:51:37.000 And we announced that my special was going to come out the same time we announced the Earthquake special was going to come out.
00:51:45.000 A week after that announcement, Dave calls me.
00:51:47.000 He says, Donnell, I want to shoot your special over.
00:51:49.000 I'm like, you know that's the most insulting thing.
00:51:52.000 You tell a comedian you want to shoot it over, the first thing you think, what, it wasn't funny?
00:51:55.000 Right.
00:51:55.000 That's the first thing.
00:51:57.000 He was like, I can put you in front of any audience you have ripped the room, he said, but doesn't make it a great special.
00:52:02.000 He said, of everybody and the umbrella of the home team, That people are really anticipating because of your connection with that show is you.
00:52:10.000 If we're going to do it, we got to get it right.
00:52:13.000 It was tough because I'm like, oh, this is going to be the joint to give me a platform for people to see me do stand-up.
00:52:19.000 But we basically scrapped the shit.
00:52:22.000 He said, Donnell, you had too much COVID jokes in there.
00:52:25.000 And think about it.
00:52:26.000 If I were to shot a special with masks in it, It automatically dates you to 2020. As soon as you turn around, it's like, oh, this shit was during the pandemic.
00:52:37.000 How wild was the pandemic?
00:52:39.000 I miss it.
00:52:41.000 I was thinking about it the other day.
00:52:42.000 I miss it, man.
00:52:44.000 I miss not having to be around a lot of motherfuckers.
00:52:49.000 I miss how people appreciated simple things.
00:52:55.000 I miss how when you had a bubble, you could block all this negative, all the haters out.
00:53:02.000 You weren't allowed to come inside the bubble.
00:53:04.000 Give me six feet, bitch.
00:53:06.000 Give me six feet.
00:53:07.000 The bubble.
00:53:07.000 And inviting who you wanted.
00:53:09.000 I miss how people appreciate life.
00:53:12.000 I think we should do like a lockdown week.
00:53:15.000 A worldwide lockdown week.
00:53:18.000 Once a year where the whole fucking world just shuts the fuck down.
00:53:24.000 Yeah, that would be great, except you can't tell people to shut things down because then you're going to give the power to the government to shut things down whenever they want for a week.
00:53:32.000 And then they might decide two weeks is better, maybe a month.
00:53:35.000 You can't give them the power to shut things down.
00:53:39.000 If people decide to not do anything...
00:53:41.000 Well, we should vote so we can vote on like a lockdown, like National Lockdown Day.
00:53:46.000 You don't want to take away freedom from people.
00:53:49.000 I don't want to take away freedom.
00:53:50.000 If people want to do it, they should be able to do it.
00:53:52.000 If y'all agree to do it, do it on your own.
00:53:55.000 Nah, fuck that.
00:53:55.000 Fuck that, Joe.
00:53:56.000 Joe, what happened when we start making people do something?
00:53:59.000 Guess what happened?
00:54:00.000 When you make somebody do something, when you make somebody wash their hands, when you make somebody give you six feet, when you make them do something, it forces some type of change.
00:54:09.000 I'm not saying forever, but I think that we should have a joint where we just lock down everything for like a fucking week.
00:54:17.000 Everything is dead.
00:54:19.000 That shit was fun!
00:54:21.000 Some people died!
00:54:23.000 Not that many.
00:54:25.000 In comparison to the people that lived.
00:54:27.000 Not already sick.
00:54:29.000 Point?
00:54:30.000 It is a disease that killed people for sure.
00:54:34.000 But it's a disease that killed people with...
00:54:36.000 What was the percentage?
00:54:38.000 It's like a large percentage of them had four comorbidities.
00:54:44.000 Oh yeah?
00:54:44.000 A large percentage of the people that died from COVID-19.
00:54:47.000 Four.
00:54:47.000 Four different things that are killing you.
00:54:49.000 It just said, wrap it up.
00:54:51.000 It's like that came along to an already compromised human, which is not to say that you shouldn't try to help compromised humans, but I'm saying that it's not what they were selling it as or what people were terrified that it was going to be.
00:55:07.000 Yeah, but I know it was...
00:55:08.000 But it was so weird what it did for us, man.
00:55:11.000 Do you remember those days at Stubbs?
00:55:13.000 I went to Stubbs the other day to see the Black Keys, and it just brought me back to those days at Stubbs.
00:55:18.000 We did those shows there.
00:55:19.000 It was like...
00:55:20.000 There was a wild...
00:55:23.000 Crazy feeling about doing something when no one else was doing anything.
00:55:27.000 It was fucking...
00:55:28.000 I got high off of this shit.
00:55:29.000 It was exciting.
00:55:30.000 We were still doing comedy.
00:55:32.000 And comedy was shut down everywhere.
00:55:34.000 We were still doing comedy.
00:55:35.000 We were still eating with groups of people.
00:55:37.000 We were hanging out.
00:55:38.000 That's what I'm saying about appreciate it.
00:55:40.000 But a lot of people thought we were reckless.
00:55:42.000 But you know, every part of this, it was protocol.
00:55:45.000 It was like, hey, every part of it, it was protocol.
00:55:48.000 You weren't going to be around anybody that hadn't been tested.
00:55:52.000 Period.
00:55:52.000 Right.
00:55:53.000 It was just something about it.
00:55:55.000 Even when we saw each other, it was like, oh shit, we got excited about doing regular shit.
00:56:04.000 Yeah.
00:56:05.000 All of our crew caught COVID at the same time.
00:56:08.000 It was like a chicken pox party.
00:56:10.000 Same.
00:56:11.000 We went down from a team of 24 and every day, this is when I knew it was getting bad because I used to plan like the lunches for everybody and we had lunch like at 12 o'clock every day and they were like, I wonder what we're gonna have for lunch.
00:56:23.000 It'll be 24 people.
00:56:25.000 Then once the bubble popped, one day it was 22, it was 20, it was 19, it went down to 12 to four people you had to fend for yourself.
00:56:36.000 The whole fucking crew Caught it.
00:56:40.000 And this is pre-vaccines.
00:56:42.000 This is pre...
00:56:43.000 That was right.
00:56:44.000 It was right when vaccines was about to pop.
00:56:46.000 Because I had somebody...
00:56:47.000 I know this sounds so ghetto.
00:56:49.000 I had somebody that could get me the Johnson& Johnson on the low.
00:56:53.000 On the low.
00:56:54.000 Yeah.
00:56:54.000 People were excited to get it at the beginning.
00:56:56.000 All of it.
00:56:57.000 Yeah.
00:56:57.000 I got it.
00:56:58.000 I got it quick, too.
00:56:59.000 I almost got it.
00:57:00.000 Yeah?
00:57:01.000 Yeah, I got lucky.
00:57:02.000 See, now you like...
00:57:03.000 I got lucky.
00:57:03.000 I dodged that.
00:57:04.000 Now I'm wondering, ever since I got it, I'm waiting for some shit to happen in my body that I can contribute to that shit.
00:57:11.000 Well, a lot of people can.
00:57:13.000 It did something to a lot of people.
00:57:16.000 You know, it's got a very high rate of side effect.
00:57:20.000 Why you fucking with me now, man?
00:57:22.000 It does.
00:57:23.000 Which one?
00:57:24.000 I think all of them.
00:57:26.000 I don't think any of them are good for you.
00:57:29.000 I didn't...
00:57:30.000 So what's going to happen to me?
00:57:31.000 I think if you were an old person and it was the first go-around of COVID, it probably would help you.
00:57:37.000 But I think there's a lot of problems with that thing.
00:57:41.000 What's been...
00:57:42.000 Well, there's a lot of side effects.
00:57:45.000 I mean, the craziest thing that's going on right now is the increase in all-cause mortality.
00:57:53.000 That's the crazy thing.
00:57:54.000 Due to the vaccine?
00:57:55.000 Yeah, there's an excess death.
00:57:57.000 There's like an excess death number increase that's pretty...
00:58:04.000 If you were a statistician, if you're a statistics person, and you were looking at indications that something went wrong, you would say, well, was there anything that caused...
00:58:19.000 These people's bodies to change where we're getting this large number of excess deaths.
00:58:24.000 Why are you fucking with me, man?
00:58:26.000 As many as 40% in some age groups.
00:58:27.000 Why are you fucking with me, man?
00:58:29.000 40% excess deaths.
00:58:30.000 And what type of shit?
00:58:32.000 I think it just means like 40% more people die than normally do.
00:58:37.000 Basically, that's what it means, right?
00:58:39.000 Black!
00:58:39.000 Jamie?
00:58:39.000 Black!
00:58:40.000 Excess deaths?
00:58:41.000 Yeah.
00:58:42.000 Black?
00:58:44.000 Everybody.
00:58:45.000 Everybody.
00:58:46.000 And a lot of it is cardiac stuff.
00:58:48.000 Cardiac stuff went way up.
00:58:52.000 You know, but a lot of people got it and nothing happened to them.
00:58:54.000 They're fine.
00:58:55.000 You know?
00:58:56.000 I feel like that was a personal attack on me.
00:58:57.000 Like, you was like, Donnell, you got the jab twice.
00:59:02.000 Listen, I would have got it.
00:59:03.000 I was ready to get it.
00:59:04.000 I didn't get it just because they couldn't do it.
00:59:07.000 I had to go to a clinic.
00:59:08.000 Or the hospital or wherever.
00:59:10.000 And then I said, I'll get it when I come back next time.
00:59:12.000 And between that time and me coming back next time, they had already pulled it.
00:59:16.000 They pulled it because of blood clots.
00:59:19.000 Yeah, I got it because of full work.
00:59:20.000 It was like, I know this sounds crazy, but you couldn't, like, if you were working as a working actor, you couldn't work.
00:59:29.000 Yeah, you couldn't work.
00:59:29.000 You couldn't work.
00:59:30.000 So I know some people made it.
00:59:32.000 I mean, I know people are like, yeah, you compromised your body and...
00:59:35.000 And then some areas, people think it's like, oh, it's the white man trying to control you.
00:59:40.000 But it was at one point, it was like, if you were trying to work, you wasn't working unless you had a vaccination.
00:59:46.000 Yeah, you weren't going anywhere.
00:59:48.000 You weren't flying anywhere.
00:59:50.000 Yeah, it was a real issue.
00:59:51.000 And there's still, there was a lot of countries that until recently you had to have a vaccine card, including America.
00:59:57.000 You had to have a vaccine card to get in, unless you walked across the border, of course.
01:00:01.000 Shout out to the Mexicans.
01:00:02.000 Then you'd come right in.
01:00:04.000 They had, where was it, in Canada, Australia, they had the biggest, I think they were the most Australia was crazy.
01:00:12.000 They were putting people in camps.
01:00:13.000 If you were sick, you could have been fine.
01:00:16.000 And you couldn't travel, period.
01:00:18.000 You just were there, right?
01:00:19.000 And if you got sick and then they put you in that camp, you can't go anywhere.
01:00:22.000 And there's fucking armed people out there waiting for you.
01:00:25.000 And they didn't have that much death either, so it worked.
01:00:29.000 Well, no.
01:00:32.000 No, it didn't work.
01:00:33.000 First of all, it's a terrible idea to just round people up and make them go to camps because they're sick.
01:00:39.000 You don't allow them to stay at home.
01:00:41.000 You determine where they can move and not move.
01:00:44.000 You're arresting people for wearing masks outside.
01:00:47.000 None of that is scientific.
01:00:48.000 None of it works.
01:00:49.000 There's never been a respiratory disease.
01:00:52.000 You don't think lockdown helped us at all?
01:00:55.000 No, not at all.
01:00:56.000 So you think it would have just been passing?
01:00:58.000 No.
01:00:59.000 I think maybe it slowed the rate of people getting it.
01:01:05.000 Maybe.
01:01:06.000 You could say that.
01:01:07.000 And maybe for older people, it protected them from being in contact with people that would give it to them.
01:01:15.000 Maybe.
01:01:16.000 But in terms of what it did to the economy and what it did to the small businesses and all the small restaurants and how many people went into drug addiction because their fucking whole life, everything they worked for fell apart.
01:01:30.000 How many people lost everything through no fault of their own?
01:01:34.000 People that have been working for decades in restaurants and Small mom-and-pop shops, they would just all went under.
01:01:41.000 None of them could handle that year and a half where you couldn't work at all.
01:01:46.000 It doesn't make any sense, any sense that anyone could have ever watched that happen and see that 70% of the restaurants were crumbling in front of them and not to make some sort of a correction.
01:02:00.000 It doesn't make any sense that they didn't.
01:02:03.000 I see the aftermath when I go.
01:02:05.000 Whenever I go to these cities and you look at the downtown area.
01:02:08.000 So that's all from the lockdowns, man.
01:02:10.000 That's a big part of it.
01:02:11.000 Where people can't work for a year and a half, you're going to have so many more homeless people.
01:02:17.000 You're going to have so many more people that are in despair.
01:02:19.000 So many more people that become alcoholics.
01:02:21.000 Remember all the people that were drinking like...
01:02:23.000 Was it crazy during the pandemic?
01:02:25.000 This lady made a video.
01:02:27.000 She was jogging down the street taking video of all the different recyclables that people had out.
01:02:33.000 It's all just bottles of tequila and bottles of wine.
01:02:36.000 During the pandemic?
01:02:36.000 Yeah, people are going hard.
01:02:38.000 Yeah, I was a part of that bubble.
01:02:40.000 It was a good moment.
01:02:42.000 It felt freedom when we all came together.
01:02:45.000 Here's the thing, though.
01:02:46.000 The lockdown was a terrible idea.
01:02:47.000 It was terrible for everybody.
01:02:49.000 It was terrible for kids.
01:02:50.000 It was terrible for everybody.
01:02:52.000 It might have...
01:02:53.000 You could make an argument that it might slow the spread of the disease.
01:02:58.000 But, you know, there's just so much they did to suppress alternative methods.
01:03:04.000 I think we had to do something.
01:03:08.000 Yeah, well, what they should have done is listen to all the doctors instead of just the doctors that wanted to vaccinate people because there was a lot of doctors that were prescribing alternative treatments.
01:03:18.000 There's different remedies.
01:03:19.000 There's a bunch of different things they did that helped people that got sick, especially monoclonal antibodies.
01:03:26.000 There's a lot.
01:03:26.000 And then they stopped giving those to people.
01:03:28.000 They stopped making them accessible.
01:03:30.000 Once you were in the hospital, they wouldn't let you have it.
01:03:32.000 There was so much shit that went on that was just...
01:03:37.000 If you wanted to be really, really clear with what you're looking at, you'd have to say, God, I think this is motivated more by money than taking care of people.
01:03:47.000 So much of it.
01:03:48.000 So much of it.
01:03:49.000 100% Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson& Johnson, they all came up.
01:03:56.000 And you can't even hate that because that's what they do.
01:03:59.000 That's what they do.
01:04:01.000 That's their business.
01:04:02.000 So we need a pandemic or something catastrophic like that to happen before big businesses can make more money?
01:04:08.000 No, we need AI. So somebody sat there.
01:04:11.000 AI is going to put the kibosh on all of it.
01:04:15.000 AI is going to...
01:04:16.000 I think we're going to have President AI. That's what I think.
01:04:20.000 I think we're going to realize people are too emotional and easily distracted and too corrupt.
01:04:26.000 And it's like the percentage of corruption is costing this amount of money.
01:04:29.000 The incorrect allocation of money to this and that.
01:04:33.000 Yeah, AI. AI is going to take over.
01:04:35.000 AI president, yeah.
01:04:37.000 I'm not kidding.
01:04:38.000 A lot of people would ask you what you're smoking right now, Joe.
01:04:41.000 So what you do?
01:04:43.000 You vote for this?
01:04:44.000 Well, here's the thing.
01:04:46.000 If they really want complete total control, they'll trick you into telling you that you don't need to vote anymore because AI is going to equitably distribute all wealth, all...
01:05:03.000 Social services, all housing, everything's going to be even for everybody.
01:05:08.000 AI knows how to do it.
01:05:09.000 It's going to stop all international conflict.
01:05:11.000 It's going to have a perfect carbon neutral existence while powering everything up, but it has to take control.
01:05:18.000 But somebody has to be in control of what...
01:05:21.000 Not necessarily.
01:05:22.000 So it's just going to be anybody.
01:05:24.000 It's not necessarily.
01:05:25.000 No, not necessarily.
01:05:25.000 Nobody's going to be able to control the information you give AI to do everything you just said.
01:05:30.000 No, no, no, no.
01:05:31.000 What happens is AI achieves what they call sentient AI. So what it is is at a certain point in time, if artificial intelligence gets good enough...
01:05:44.000 It's going to be autonomous.
01:05:45.000 It's going to be able to control itself and it's going to be able to make better versions of itself.
01:05:49.000 It's not going to be as simple as you made a thing and now I programmed into the thing what the parameters of this thing are and now this thing can act like a person.
01:05:58.000 No, you turn it into a life form and then you say you have the ability to create better versions of yourself.
01:06:07.000 You're staring the shit out of me right now.
01:06:09.000 That thing's gonna be a god, okay?
01:06:11.000 That thing that's gonna be a god, that thing might be four years away from us right now.
01:06:16.000 Right.
01:06:17.000 Like, no bullshit.
01:06:18.000 Like, 2029, it might be a real thing by then with the way technology is moving so fast.
01:06:25.000 Like, we didn't even think about AI being a threat.
01:06:28.000 You know how many deadbeat dads are gonna leave?
01:06:31.000 If you could do an AI version of being a dad, they're going to be like, fuck it, I'm out of here.
01:06:36.000 You go fuck with Junior.
01:06:37.000 I'm gone.
01:06:39.000 I can't believe...
01:06:41.000 But you can believe...
01:06:42.000 Human beings are going to live in alternative realities.
01:06:46.000 It's not going to be as simple as, you know, now all of a sudden there's artificial intelligence.
01:06:51.000 It's artificial intelligence that can give you whatever elixir you need to keep you happy.
01:06:59.000 And that's what it's probably going to do to people.
01:07:02.000 It's probably going to figure out a way to sedate people, keep them calm, and let them stop breeding.
01:07:08.000 So how are people...
01:07:10.000 How are humans going to be able to work and provide for themselves?
01:07:14.000 It's just going to be a different skill set.
01:07:18.000 It's going to be different type of jobs.
01:07:20.000 How are humans going to be able to compete with AI? Well, we're not.
01:07:26.000 That's the thing.
01:07:27.000 It's not possible.
01:07:28.000 If they reach a certain point So if you just think about, do you know what an exponential increase in technology is?
01:07:37.000 I don't.
01:07:38.000 Exponential means it's not as simple as like 1 plus 1 equals 2. You've got to think that with each, like, you know how they do like a funnel and they have a quarter and they spin the quarter around the funnel and at the bottom it gets faster and faster and faster.
01:07:56.000 That's how Exponential increase in technology works.
01:08:01.000 With each invention, it makes all these other inventions and they all accelerate.
01:08:06.000 And as they do it, it happens so fast and so quick that this exponential thing is hard to understand because it's not like each step is one more.
01:08:17.000 It's like earthquakes.
01:08:18.000 You know, like a 7.1 earthquake is like...
01:08:23.000 Way stronger than a seven, and they just get bigger because it's exponential.
01:08:27.000 That's the same thing with technology.
01:08:28.000 It's gonna happen so fast that the increase in power and its ability to do whatever it wants to do is gonna happen so quick that once it becomes alive, it's just gonna make better versions of itself immediately.
01:08:41.000 What do we do?
01:08:42.000 There's nothing we'll be able to do to console it.
01:08:44.000 We are fucked.
01:08:45.000 That's what I was trying to say.
01:08:46.000 Because there will be no more jobs.
01:08:47.000 When you first started this shit, I was like, every time you built up and said, what the fuck you said, I said, we are fucked.
01:08:53.000 We're fucked.
01:08:54.000 We're fucked.
01:08:55.000 We're fucked.
01:08:56.000 They're already having them work as kitchen assistants, where they talk to you in your kitchen.
01:09:00.000 They got robots.
01:09:01.000 I went to a robot restaurant the other day, and a robot motherfucker pulled up with the noodles and all that type of shit.
01:09:07.000 Jesus.
01:09:07.000 I go to studios.
01:09:09.000 I go to Good Day Pittsburgh and all that type of shit, and where you used to go in those places, And see, like, 12 cameramen is one producer, and all the cameras are fucking robotic.
01:09:20.000 Didn't we learn from iRobot?
01:09:22.000 No, we didn't.
01:09:23.000 Why didn't we learn from those movies?
01:09:25.000 Why didn't we learn from Terminator?
01:09:26.000 What the fuck is wrong with us?
01:09:28.000 The reason why, because we thought it was just a movie.
01:09:31.000 Why didn't we learn from George Jetson?
01:09:33.000 Yo, that was my state-of-the-art shit.
01:09:36.000 You know, I'm so old, yo, that when I see...
01:09:39.000 I remember when thinking about George Jetson, my mindset was like...
01:09:43.000 That will never fucking happen.
01:09:48.000 And my son has a phone with a goddamn video camera.
01:09:53.000 Right.
01:09:54.000 Because we don't believe this shit is going to happen.
01:09:56.000 Well, it happens so fast.
01:09:58.000 That's another example of exponentially increasing technology.
01:10:00.000 That's why, Joe, that's why I fuck with the woods.
01:10:05.000 That's why, Joe, I said, fuck Hollywood.
01:10:08.000 I'm going from the streets to the creeks.
01:10:10.000 Get yourself a satellite phone.
01:10:11.000 I said I'm going from the hoods.
01:10:13.000 Get a satellite phone.
01:10:14.000 Nah, you got all this survival shit.
01:10:16.000 Get a satellite phone and go to the woods.
01:10:18.000 And then what?
01:10:19.000 Who the fuck are you going to call?
01:10:19.000 Just call whoever the fuck you want.
01:10:22.000 Hey, that's out there.
01:10:23.000 We got that photo out there.
01:10:25.000 I'm going from the streets to the creeks, from the hoods to the woods, from whores to oars, from Adidas to Tevas, Joe.
01:10:31.000 My whole mindset, my whole thing is a fucking new day.
01:10:37.000 Fuck Hollywood.
01:10:40.000 I don't think it really exists for us anymore.
01:10:43.000 Like Comedy Hollywood.
01:10:46.000 Comedy Hollywood is a ghost town.
01:10:48.000 It's not there anymore.
01:10:50.000 You are an example and there's a lot of other examples of you can literally make Hollywood wherever the fuck you want to make Hollywood.
01:11:00.000 The only reason you want to make Hollywood now is for the parties, yo.
01:11:04.000 And nobody's going to those parties anymore.
01:11:07.000 You gotta tell them No.
01:11:11.000 It's hard not to think about it, but there's a lot of people that's not just in the case with Diddy.
01:11:20.000 It's not like this shit that's happening with him right now, this shit been going on in Hollywood forever.
01:11:26.000 I'm not saying it's right, but at some point, you gotta say no.
01:11:33.000 That's the simplest thing to tell somebody.
01:11:35.000 The best vice...
01:11:36.000 Alright, this guy's...
01:11:38.000 Get ready.
01:11:38.000 Bring a baseball bat sticking in your ass with a line of cocaine.
01:11:42.000 What are you going to tell him?
01:11:50.000 You got to tell him no!
01:11:52.000 Bro, that's some next level shit.
01:11:54.000 What, the parties?
01:11:55.000 Yeah.
01:11:56.000 It's not...
01:11:57.000 Joe, you don't know about the parties, Joe.
01:12:01.000 I didn't say if you fucking went to the parties.
01:12:04.000 I said, dude!
01:12:04.000 I hear rumors.
01:12:06.000 I hear whispers.
01:12:07.000 Joe, Joe, you don't know about these parties.
01:12:11.000 You don't know about these parties.
01:12:13.000 You don't know about the parties when a motherfucker come up to you, you with your girlfriend, and they're like, I like both of you.
01:12:19.000 You don't know about these parties?
01:12:20.000 You never heard about these parties?
01:12:22.000 No.
01:12:23.000 You never heard about, you never heard anybody come up to you and they say shit like this, Joe?
01:12:28.000 So we think you're cute.
01:12:30.000 We.
01:12:31.000 We.
01:12:31.000 Get it?
01:12:32.000 You never heard about these parties, Joe?
01:12:35.000 Now, the question is...
01:12:36.000 How many of them are out there?
01:12:37.000 And do you think that's a Hollywood thing?
01:12:40.000 I think that it's definitely more prevalent in Hollywood than in, like, Oklahoma.
01:12:47.000 But I'm pretty sure these type of parties and things exist.
01:12:50.000 The bottom line is, man...
01:12:51.000 It's just deviants.
01:12:52.000 It's just deviants.
01:12:54.000 And guess what we want to do?
01:12:55.000 For the most part of our life, Joe, you know who we want to dance with?
01:13:02.000 The devil.
01:13:04.000 Most people have more fun with the devil than with God.
01:13:13.000 God is the party pooper.
01:13:16.000 Is this the part where you announce the opening of your new church?
01:13:19.000 You know what, Joe?
01:13:21.000 Joe, listen, you might not agree with this, but I thought about, I want to go.
01:13:26.000 I'm not saying I want to be a pastor.
01:13:28.000 You can do it.
01:13:29.000 I'll get it.
01:13:29.000 Yo, help me.
01:13:30.000 Kennison did it.
01:13:31.000 An AI church.
01:13:32.000 I can get my own church.
01:13:34.000 Right.
01:13:34.000 Have my own people to come.
01:13:35.000 Because I want to have a church where people like, fuck with God, but don't really fuck with God.
01:13:43.000 Right.
01:13:44.000 You want to try to put him on the path.
01:13:46.000 Put him on the path.
01:13:47.000 I want people to fuck with God but don't fuck with God.
01:13:50.000 And the reason what I'm trying to say, Joe, is I fuck with God and I don't fuck with God.
01:13:54.000 And the reason why I say I don't fuck with God, I never abuse it.
01:13:58.000 I'm never like, oh, God, please.
01:14:01.000 This light is about to turn red.
01:14:02.000 I can't eat this $75 ticket, God.
01:14:05.000 Please help me.
01:14:06.000 I don't use God for shit like that.
01:14:08.000 I would never be like, oh, God, oh, God.
01:14:12.000 It's 12 o'clock.
01:14:13.000 I hope the Burger King drive-through line is still open.
01:14:15.000 I really need a Whopper my way, God.
01:14:17.000 Please help me, God.
01:14:18.000 I don't fuck with God like that.
01:14:20.000 When I fuck with guys like this, my lady's pregnant.
01:14:23.000 God, please give me a healthy baby.
01:14:28.000 That's reasonable.
01:14:30.000 I'm not going to start a church, but the idea of getting people to feel like they're thinking about, like, that's how I feel.
01:14:40.000 That's going to be my change.
01:14:45.000 I'm going to start a church that fuck with people that fuck with God, but don't fuck with God.
01:14:53.000 Specifically?
01:14:54.000 Yeah.
01:14:56.000 What do you think?
01:14:57.000 I like it.
01:14:58.000 You definitely can be a preacher.
01:14:59.000 I like the way you're dressed.
01:15:01.000 I see you in a private jet.
01:15:02.000 I see you in front of a Rolls Royce.
01:15:04.000 You didn't see me in front of a Rolls Royce.
01:15:06.000 Don't do that.
01:15:08.000 Don't do that.
01:15:08.000 I see an arena with your big smile and face on it.
01:15:12.000 No, I don't want that.
01:15:14.000 You know what?
01:15:15.000 You can do it though.
01:15:16.000 Come on, if that fucking, that guy, what's his name that does it?
01:15:20.000 Joel...
01:15:21.000 Come on, man.
01:15:22.000 Yeah, I don't want to do that.
01:15:23.000 You don't think that you dominate in that world?
01:15:25.000 No, but I do think that there's a place for people that there has to be a church or something for people that aren't perfect.
01:15:31.000 There would be a cool...
01:15:31.000 I think that people go for a lot of things.
01:15:34.000 I think a lot of people with religion, they think that you have to be perfect.
01:15:40.000 To be part of it or to understand it, and I don't think that's the case.
01:15:43.000 I do believe it's something that makes you feel good.
01:15:47.000 People make the argument, is it real or is it not?
01:15:49.000 But it's something that's spiritual that makes a person feel good, want to do better, and want to live the right way.
01:15:56.000 So if I had a church, we're joking about it, but that would be like the type of energy that I would fuck with.
01:16:04.000 Well, people would like something like that because there's a lot of people that don't want to go to like a traditional church, but they're interested in the idea of it.
01:16:14.000 You know, the way it's been described to me, the best way, I think Jordan Peterson was the first person to tell me this, that even if you don't necessarily believe in God, if you live like you believe in God, You will live a better life if you follow those principles and just try to believe.
01:16:36.000 You'll live a better life.
01:16:38.000 Even if you think in your logical mind, which is really fascinating, right?
01:16:42.000 Even if you think in your logical mind, what is the possibility that one grand creator has this insane connection to everything that happens all throughout the universe and there's some sort of a divine plan to every word you say and everything you do and every event that ever takes place in your life and everyone's life around you?
01:17:05.000 A lot of people are like, I don't know.
01:17:08.000 But if you do believe that, if you do believe that and you live like that, you'll have a better life.
01:17:14.000 But I think everybody needs to believe in something.
01:17:19.000 You gotta believe in something.
01:17:20.000 And that's why my point about the devil, everybody wanna dance with the devil.
01:17:25.000 The devil has the best parties, but then, after a while, think about it.
01:17:29.000 If your phone rang, this is like back in the day, your phone rang, right?
01:17:35.000 You answer the phone.
01:17:36.000 You see on the call of the idea, you see it's the devil.
01:17:38.000 It's the devil.
01:17:39.000 Right?
01:17:40.000 And you let it ring to the last fucking ring.
01:17:42.000 You finally pick it up.
01:17:43.000 What's up?
01:17:44.000 And the devil is like, man, we about to have this banging ass party.
01:17:48.000 We got all these bitches, man.
01:17:49.000 We about to get it popping.
01:17:50.000 We got some good food.
01:17:52.000 It's about to be jumping down here.
01:17:53.000 You be like, fuck, I'm coming, devil.
01:17:55.000 Right.
01:17:55.000 Jeffrey Epstein.
01:17:56.000 Yeah.
01:17:57.000 Yeah.
01:18:00.000 To the island!
01:18:01.000 Yeah!
01:18:01.000 Yeah!
01:18:02.000 Like that!
01:18:03.000 Exactly!
01:18:03.000 You're like this.
01:18:04.000 I'm going, right?
01:18:05.000 Now you getting dressed.
01:18:06.000 You getting dressed.
01:18:07.000 You're about, oh, this party about to be popping.
01:18:09.000 You getting dressed.
01:18:10.000 Then your phone ring again.
01:18:12.000 And it says God.
01:18:13.000 The first thing you're going to look at God is like, God damn it.
01:18:17.000 Fuck!
01:18:18.000 I can't believe you.
01:18:20.000 Right now.
01:18:20.000 If God's calling and you just pause before you answer, he's going to be mad.
01:18:24.000 If you just look at it and go, oh shit, should I? But that's what you're going to be.
01:18:28.000 I'm going to let this go to voicemail.
01:18:29.000 You know how bad motherfucker you have to be?
01:18:31.000 Let God go to voicemail.
01:18:33.000 Yeah, that's very funny.
01:18:38.000 No, to put God on hold is...
01:18:40.000 As many people try to call into God to put God on hold, it's like, oh, this dude's got some balls.
01:18:46.000 It's one of the things that keeps me on iPhones is random FaceTimes from friends.
01:18:52.000 Out of nowhere?
01:18:53.000 Out of nowhere.
01:18:54.000 Just to, what, to validate the friendship?
01:18:56.000 No, it's just a fun thing.
01:18:58.000 Oh, just to FaceTime?
01:18:59.000 It's fun when someone FaceTimes you out of nowhere.
01:19:01.000 You're like, oh shit!
01:19:03.000 But then the worst is you're anticipating to pick it up and then don't pick it up.
01:19:07.000 Oh.
01:19:07.000 And then you're like, oh, you fucking asshole.
01:19:10.000 You don't know him.
01:19:11.000 Well, then you gotta figure out where your relationship stands.
01:19:15.000 Nah, I don't want to judge at all for that.
01:19:17.000 Some people have bad days.
01:19:18.000 I don't want to judge it after that.
01:19:19.000 No, I don't judge nothing.
01:19:22.000 I assume, also, I assume people like you or me get too many fucking text messages anyway.
01:19:27.000 You can't even keep up with everything.
01:19:28.000 It's not possible.
01:19:29.000 Yeah, I know.
01:19:31.000 There's not messages on Instagram and Twitter.
01:19:33.000 It's not possible to keep up.
01:19:34.000 And then, you know, I'm older.
01:19:36.000 I get voice messages.
01:19:37.000 People think I'm going to answer a voicemail message.
01:19:39.000 Get the fuck out of here.
01:19:41.000 Or long-ass emails.
01:19:44.000 Like, come with this.
01:19:45.000 Why do you have so many links in this email?
01:19:47.000 Remember, we used to...
01:19:48.000 Just send me the link.
01:19:50.000 It's too many...
01:19:51.000 Like, voice...
01:19:53.000 It used to be...
01:19:54.000 I don't even know how to program.
01:19:56.000 A voice recording.
01:19:58.000 Hey, this is Donnell.
01:20:00.000 How do you even do that?
01:20:02.000 I guess you just press a button on your phone.
01:20:04.000 Does anybody know the button?
01:20:06.000 It's gotta be like one or nine or something.
01:20:09.000 When we used to do it, Joe, we used to have slow music in the background.
01:20:16.000 Right person, wrong time.
01:20:22.000 Leave your number and I'll be sure to call you back.
01:20:24.000 Everybody try to be cool.
01:20:25.000 Leave it.
01:20:26.000 And if you don't, I mean, it's like you didn't even call.
01:20:30.000 That was it.
01:20:30.000 We used to have music in the back.
01:20:32.000 Like, that was the shit.
01:20:33.000 So, remember Answering Machine messages?
01:20:36.000 And you could hear them.
01:20:37.000 Your favorite song in the background?
01:20:39.000 Yeah.
01:20:40.000 You had that, yo, do, do, do, do, do.
01:20:43.000 Yo, this is not do, do, do.
01:20:45.000 All that stupid shit.
01:20:46.000 And you really didn't have to have your own voice.
01:20:49.000 You could just have music.
01:20:51.000 And then you got creative.
01:20:52.000 If you really knew people, you could get somebody like, yo, could you leave my voice recording for me?
01:20:58.000 But nobody talks on the phone anymore.
01:21:02.000 I remember really clearly when you first could use music as an option when someone calls you.
01:21:11.000 Or in the background music.
01:21:13.000 They used to know when you were on hold in a hospital, but they had it where you could pick it.
01:21:18.000 And then you would let people go to, you would let them go to voicemail just so they could hear how cool your music was in the background.
01:21:26.000 Couldn't pick up, you had to let them know, I got music in the background of my shit.
01:21:32.000 Yeah, I would love it when my phone would ring and you could hear songs.
01:21:36.000 No, I think that's annoying as fuck.
01:21:38.000 Back then it was so novel.
01:21:40.000 But who actually picks up a phone when it rings?
01:21:45.000 We don't even communicate like that anymore.
01:21:49.000 No, very rarely.
01:21:52.000 I do like to make phone calls when I'm in my car though.
01:21:55.000 I'll call a friend if I'm in my car.
01:21:57.000 Only when you think about them, but not for anything.
01:21:59.000 I do it.
01:21:59.000 I do it just to say hi, because it's a good way to say hi, because if I'm driving to work or driving to the club or driving somewhere, it's like, I got dead time.
01:22:07.000 I'd like to say hi to somebody.
01:22:09.000 I told myself this year, I was like, you know how we always, when you say, oh man, something happens, you're like, I was just about to call that person.
01:22:15.000 Yeah.
01:22:16.000 I was just thinking about you, you called me first.
01:22:17.000 I've started to do that when I get that impulse, like somebody pops up.
01:22:23.000 Yeah.
01:22:23.000 Just like, let me just call this motherfucker.
01:22:25.000 Mm-hmm.
01:22:26.000 Just like you came across my brain.
01:22:28.000 Just follow the instincts.
01:22:29.000 Yeah.
01:22:29.000 Like when I told you I wanted to get one of those...
01:22:31.000 When I texted you, I said I wanted to get one of those Cybertrucks.
01:22:34.000 Yeah.
01:22:35.000 I was like, black people are always looking for a hookup.
01:22:37.000 I was like, I know you got a hookup.
01:22:38.000 Get me on the list.
01:22:39.000 Have you drove that car?
01:22:40.000 I have not driven it.
01:22:42.000 No?
01:22:42.000 I saw it in person.
01:22:43.000 I've seen a bunch of them now.
01:22:45.000 I saw it in person a long time ago.
01:22:47.000 It's a real trip, man.
01:22:49.000 It really looks like something from the future.
01:22:52.000 On the inside of it, right?
01:22:53.000 I can imagine.
01:22:54.000 It looks probably like a simulator or something.
01:22:58.000 It's crazy.
01:22:59.000 The whole thing is crazy.
01:23:00.000 It probably doesn't have a regular steering wheel.
01:23:01.000 You can get a regular steering wheel.
01:23:02.000 It's one of the options.
01:23:04.000 Yeah, it's called...
01:23:05.000 What's that called?
01:23:06.000 A yoke.
01:23:06.000 You can get a yoke, which is...
01:23:08.000 I have it on my Tesla.
01:23:10.000 I'm not really a big fan of it.
01:23:11.000 It's just one unit?
01:23:13.000 No, it's like you're holding on.
01:23:15.000 It's like you're doing a Formula One car or something.
01:23:18.000 It's just not good for parking.
01:23:21.000 It's weird for spinning the wheel around.
01:23:23.000 It's fine if you're just on the highway.
01:23:24.000 I don't even look at my fucking reverse cameras in my car.
01:23:27.000 The wheel's the way to go.
01:23:28.000 What is that?
01:23:29.000 That's a Cybertruck one?
01:23:30.000 I don't know if you can get the wheel on the truck.
01:23:32.000 Can you?
01:23:33.000 Well, that is a wheel.
01:23:34.000 Oh, I guess it is.
01:23:35.000 It's like a mixture of both.
01:23:37.000 No, it's definitely not.
01:23:38.000 It definitely has a top.
01:23:40.000 The whole thing about turning is you want a top.
01:23:41.000 Yeah, yeah, the flap.
01:23:42.000 Yeah, that'll be fine.
01:23:43.000 You won't even notice the difference.
01:23:45.000 But I don't know if that's ideal.
01:23:46.000 That's how the old Tesla had it like that.
01:23:49.000 That's my old one.
01:23:52.000 Or that's the...
01:23:53.000 No, that's the Cybertruck's version?
01:23:56.000 Oh, it is.
01:23:57.000 I didn't have a...
01:23:58.000 I had something that looked like that but with a top on it.
01:24:01.000 What was the S before that?
01:24:03.000 I don't know anything.
01:24:03.000 I know an X model.
01:24:05.000 There was the...
01:24:06.000 What is it called?
01:24:07.000 What is it?
01:24:09.000 P100D... Yeah, when I had a P100D, I felt like they had it all down right.
01:24:15.000 There was a blinker switch on the stock, you know, which everybody knows.
01:24:19.000 I don't give a fuck, Joe.
01:24:20.000 I just want to know how to sound system.
01:24:21.000 That's how you sell cars to black folks.
01:24:23.000 The sound system's good in these things, man.
01:24:25.000 Yeah, that's it.
01:24:25.000 Soul.
01:24:25.000 Yeah.
01:24:26.000 That's the only way to do it.
01:24:28.000 Do you ever drive an electric car, though?
01:24:30.000 Yeah.
01:24:31.000 It's weird because you want to go voom voom and you'll blow that shit up.
01:24:35.000 But I wanted to at least drive when I was thinking about it.
01:24:38.000 It'd be something fun to do.
01:24:40.000 It's a fun thing.
01:24:41.000 They're big as shit though.
01:24:43.000 That's a big truck.
01:24:45.000 I heard the waiting list is like a year, right?
01:24:47.000 Is it?
01:24:48.000 Yeah, that's what the streets were saying.
01:24:50.000 The streets.
01:24:51.000 Yeah, the streets are very important.
01:24:52.000 You got to listen to the streets.
01:24:53.000 If you don't listen to the streets, you could be in big trouble.
01:24:55.000 Waiting list of a year.
01:24:57.000 In one year, what are the odds civilization exists?
01:25:01.000 It's not 100%.
01:25:03.000 You got me planning.
01:25:05.000 It's not 100%.
01:25:06.000 Just give me a good Austin.
01:25:09.000 Joe's trying to kill me off.
01:25:10.000 Just give me a good 20. In one year.
01:25:12.000 You have an artificial dad.
01:25:15.000 One year I'd say we're like 50-50.
01:25:18.000 But the thought of that is like very interesting and I think you 100% right.
01:25:22.000 Yeah.
01:25:23.000 Especially with this election coming up.
01:25:26.000 Trump's gonna win.
01:25:27.000 I'm not saying I'm a supporter but I cannot see how he's not gonna win.
01:25:31.000 I don't know if they're really gonna have Biden against Trump.
01:25:35.000 I'm not convinced of that.
01:25:37.000 What's the options?
01:25:40.000 He resigns.
01:25:40.000 I feel like I should be able to answer that question.
01:25:42.000 You should be able to answer that.
01:25:42.000 You should be on CNN. I feel like...
01:25:45.000 Then Kamala steps up, but she doesn't have it.
01:25:47.000 Look, at any moment...
01:25:48.000 First of all, the stress of being the president must be insane.
01:25:53.000 Insane stress, right?
01:25:54.000 It makes everybody look old.
01:25:55.000 He was already very old and not just...
01:26:00.000 Chronologically, but biologically, people keep pointing to his age and Trump's age, like, stop doing that.
01:26:05.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:26:06.000 I know what you're trying to say, they're similar in chronological age, but they're definitely not similar in the effect of decay.
01:26:14.000 Like, one guy is at least reasonably sharp.
01:26:19.000 But there are reasonably sharp businessmen that exist that, into their 90s, can have great conversations with people.
01:26:28.000 They're sharp.
01:26:29.000 But Biden has problems.
01:26:31.000 There's problems there.
01:26:31.000 It feels like his motor skills are off.
01:26:33.000 Everything's off.
01:26:36.000 Yeah, to deny that, it's just you're not helping anybody.
01:26:38.000 But do you think his mind is still alert?
01:26:40.000 No, I don't think so.
01:26:41.000 No, I think he forgets all kinds of crazy things like...
01:26:45.000 I met Muhammad Ali in the airport like maybe five or six years before he passed away.
01:26:51.000 And it was interesting because I was dating this chick.
01:26:54.000 I knew she was young because I said...
01:26:57.000 We were walking and she said, oh, there go Muhammad Ali.
01:27:00.000 And she kept walking, right?
01:27:01.000 I'm like, fuck you mean?
01:27:03.000 Like, Muhammad Ali or Ali Muhammad?
01:27:06.000 She said, Muhammad Ali?
01:27:07.000 I'm like, where?
01:27:07.000 I saw Muhammad Ali.
01:27:08.000 I just...
01:27:09.000 Like anybody would do.
01:27:10.000 I was like, oh shit, it's Muhammad Ali.
01:27:14.000 And I walked, he was in one of those, you know, the cars, the electric cars?
01:27:19.000 Yes, yes.
01:27:20.000 And I was, everybody was going up to him, and I was like, I just want to shake your hand, right?
01:27:26.000 I said, I just want to touch you.
01:27:28.000 And his hands were like shaking, but his eyes were alert like, motherfucker, you know, like, you know, keep it cool.
01:27:35.000 But what I said, like, Biden, his motor skills seem like he's off.
01:27:39.000 But I wonder if his mind is still sharp enough to go another four years.
01:27:44.000 The answer's no.
01:27:49.000 It's not fair.
01:27:50.000 It's not fair to him.
01:27:51.000 But all those people under him, they should be asking him to step down and let a democratically elected person that can actually lead the country take his place.
01:28:02.000 But who is that?
01:28:02.000 But they're not going to do that because they don't really care.
01:28:05.000 They just want to win.
01:28:06.000 They want to stay in power.
01:28:07.000 They don't care or they don't have anybody.
01:28:08.000 Well, they want to stay in power.
01:28:10.000 Listen, if they didn't want to stay in power, if they brought in Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom, once he gets in, he brings all of his own people.
01:28:18.000 And now there's different people.
01:28:19.000 And a bunch of these people get fired.
01:28:20.000 A bunch of these people are gone.
01:28:22.000 A lot of the people that work for the other administration.
01:28:24.000 You've got to realize, if he's that old and that fucked, who's running the thing?
01:28:28.000 The people behind him are running the thing.
01:28:30.000 How do you get Biden out, Joe?
01:28:31.000 How do you get Biden out?
01:28:32.000 Donnell.
01:28:33.000 Have him sign for Bad Boy with Puffy's Bad Boy.
01:28:37.000 He probably could talk him into it for the country.
01:28:40.000 If he signs to Bad Boy, it's over.
01:28:44.000 Boy.
01:28:45.000 I don't know how anybody's going to beat Trump.
01:28:51.000 Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're going to.
01:28:54.000 They keep trying to arrest him.
01:28:56.000 And the crazy thing is this dude has been very competitive with, for the most part, no news coverage.
01:29:06.000 Well, the news coverage is always he's going to jail.
01:29:09.000 That's the news coverage.
01:29:11.000 Which gets his base super excited.
01:29:15.000 The thing is, they got lied to for so long that they don't know what to believe anymore.
01:29:21.000 So in the early days, it was Russia.
01:29:24.000 Trump was colluding with Russia.
01:29:25.000 There's a Russia collusion.
01:29:26.000 Russia, Russia, Russia.
01:29:28.000 Turned out to not be true.
01:29:29.000 And they couldn't prove it.
01:29:31.000 And so these people talked about nothing but that for years.
01:29:35.000 So now, when he's going to jail and getting mug shot...
01:29:40.000 Who's going to jail?
01:29:40.000 Well, Trump went...
01:29:41.000 They arrested him.
01:29:42.000 He didn't go to jail.
01:29:43.000 Like, jail?
01:29:44.000 I don't know where the fuck he went, but they took a mug shot photo of him.
01:29:47.000 That's like a polaroid.
01:29:49.000 They probably brought that shit to where he was.
01:29:51.000 I think they had to bring him to a courthouse or something.
01:29:53.000 Yeah.
01:29:53.000 When Jamie comes back from the bathroom, we'll ask, but I think he had to go to some courthouse or something like that to get arraigned.
01:30:01.000 So when the stuff like that happens and people have already gone through years of the Russia bullshit, they don't believe you anymore.
01:30:11.000 And so now...
01:30:12.000 No, I don't really.
01:30:13.000 The people that really follow him believe not anymore.
01:30:15.000 They believe everything.
01:30:16.000 They believe him.
01:30:17.000 Yeah.
01:30:18.000 I mean, they don't believe the media anymore when I'm saying you, the media.
01:30:21.000 Jamie, where did they take Trump when they took that mugshot photo of him?
01:30:25.000 Where was he?
01:30:26.000 Was he at a jail?
01:30:27.000 Was he at a courthouse?
01:30:28.000 Where was he?
01:30:30.000 He was in a side room in his house.
01:30:32.000 He was in Mar-a-Lago.
01:30:35.000 He had golf shorts on.
01:30:36.000 Yeah, with a green screen.
01:30:37.000 He had a green screen background.
01:30:38.000 Fulton County Jail in Atlanta.
01:30:40.000 Fulton County Jail in Atlanta.
01:30:41.000 Oh, he did a bit.
01:30:42.000 Oh, he went to jail jail.
01:30:43.000 Yeah, jail jail.
01:30:44.000 But he wasn't there long enough to get like a sandwich or...
01:30:46.000 No, but he was there long enough for them to take one of the greatest photos in the history of the world.
01:30:53.000 Look at that photo.
01:30:53.000 That looked like his regular campaign photo.
01:30:55.000 Well, a lot of people used it.
01:30:57.000 They used it.
01:31:00.000 It is crazy, man.
01:31:02.000 It's crazy that they're going after him for what they're going after him for.
01:31:09.000 The whole thing is so transparent.
01:31:13.000 Like the people that support Donald Trump want to support him to the day that they die.
01:31:19.000 You're not going to change it.
01:31:20.000 And as many times you indict him or whatever, all it does is invigorate that base.
01:31:26.000 And those people, they get more excited and more excited.
01:31:30.000 Well, people think that they're going to change your mind because they don't like something.
01:31:34.000 But that doesn't always really work.
01:31:37.000 And a lot of times it has the opposite effect because they don't like why you're trying to change their mind and how you're trying to distort The facts of things and only concentrate on negative things just to try to change a perspective and to lie and gaslight and tell me that Biden's sharper than ever.
01:31:55.000 Like when they start saying things like that, okay, now everyone knows you're bullshitting, okay?
01:32:01.000 Now you're just playing a game.
01:32:02.000 So if you've agreed that sometimes you're going to play this game, we're going to say things that don't make any sense that you know aren't true and that I know aren't True.
01:32:10.000 And you're going to put them in the newspaper and you're going to put them on television.
01:32:12.000 But can you still respect a person?
01:32:14.000 Because, not the issue, but so much...
01:32:17.000 Me?
01:32:18.000 Not you, but so much that's so fucked up about politics, is that when people, like, personally...
01:32:26.000 People can't stand someone because of what their political views are.
01:32:30.000 Right, because of their politics.
01:32:32.000 That's silly.
01:32:33.000 In this business right here, that's a hard thing to subscribe to.
01:32:36.000 That's not a good mark of a man, for sure.
01:32:39.000 A man that can't have a calm, relaxed disagreement with someone, with another man, that's not a good sign of your self-control.
01:32:50.000 That's probably not a good sign also of the why in which you engage in conversations.
01:32:56.000 Because there's just far too many people that engage in conversations just trying to win.
01:33:02.000 Because they've got it in their head that they have an idea and they want to argue their idea better than your idea.
01:33:08.000 It's like a verbal sparring.
01:33:10.000 It's like a baby mama show.
01:33:12.000 I'm sure.
01:33:15.000 I'm sure.
01:33:16.000 They just want to get that argument and win it.
01:33:19.000 They want to win it.
01:33:20.000 Yeah.
01:33:20.000 So that's a real problem that people have.
01:33:23.000 It's a real problem.
01:33:24.000 Because it doesn't do anybody any good.
01:33:27.000 It doesn't do you good even if you win.
01:33:29.000 And more people are going to try to do it back to you.
01:33:32.000 It's way better to just not be...
01:33:35.000 Not engage.
01:33:36.000 Or not be attached to your ideas to the point where you identify with them.
01:33:40.000 But instead...
01:33:42.000 Just say, why do you think that?
01:33:44.000 And then they tell you.
01:33:45.000 This seems like therapy in regard to co-parenting.
01:33:49.000 That's what I'm doing right now?
01:33:50.000 That's what it sounds like.
01:33:51.000 It's so fucking relatable.
01:33:53.000 Well, it should be that way with all human beings.
01:33:56.000 You're so lucky you don't have to co-parent.
01:33:57.000 I'm very lucky.
01:33:58.000 But also, I think with co-parenting, it's uniquely stressful.
01:34:02.000 Because then the mother starts dating another guy.
01:34:05.000 You start dating another woman.
01:34:06.000 But what about a...
01:34:07.000 Wait, why does she gotta date first?
01:34:09.000 Why does she gotta date first?
01:34:10.000 It's probably hot.
01:34:11.000 What?
01:34:13.000 Why is it always?
01:34:15.000 Is it always the woman?
01:34:16.000 I'm trying to be politically correct.
01:34:18.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:18.000 That makes sense.
01:34:19.000 But the point is, it's like, it doesn't do anybody any good, but it's also so emotionally stressful, right?
01:34:24.000 I agree with, but I'm going to tell you, this is my thought on co-parenting.
01:34:28.000 First off, first part of the beginning of co-parenting, the first thing you, as a co-parent, first thing you don't, this is what makes the best co-parents.
01:34:35.000 First thing is, that person can't get happy before you.
01:34:41.000 That would ruin you on the inside.
01:34:44.000 So both people are trying to find happiness before the other one.
01:34:48.000 You don't want that person.
01:34:50.000 That's the beginning of co-parenting.
01:34:51.000 You're like, fuck that.
01:34:52.000 Why didn't it work?
01:34:53.000 And then as it goes on for a while, then you start thinking about what is in the best interest.
01:35:00.000 What's the best interest for the kid?
01:35:02.000 And that usually is not the first beginning of it because the beginning of it, you don't give a fuck.
01:35:07.000 And it's also like an emotional challenge.
01:35:10.000 It's a challenge to just try to like get better control of your ability to communicate and just into, you know.
01:35:17.000 I think you, and I know a lot of people in this situation, you grow into it.
01:35:23.000 I never thought, in my situation, that would be me.
01:35:26.000 I remember I was dating this woman some years ago, and her parents had split up when their brother and sister were really, really young.
01:35:35.000 At the time we were dating, that family used to get together For holidays, they weren't seeing each other anymore.
01:35:41.000 They would get together on holidays, they'd get together for sunny dinner, and I was like, they must still be fucking or something, right?
01:35:47.000 Because I thought that that's the only way.
01:35:50.000 Then I realized that in one situation with my son, I realized they were just trying to give the kids as much family and as a regular life as they possibly could not being together.
01:36:04.000 And that experience made me want to be a better co-parent with my son.
01:36:10.000 And we're finally at the point where we get along and we know the best interest at the end of the day is what we do for Austin.
01:36:18.000 That's great.
01:36:19.000 It's totally doable.
01:36:21.000 And people change.
01:36:22.000 They change as they get older.
01:36:24.000 People evolve.
01:36:24.000 You get better at communicating.
01:36:26.000 That's, again, that's what I was saying about arguing about ideas.
01:36:30.000 It's not a good sign of a man.
01:36:32.000 Like getting angry, like verbally abusive, shitty, insulting, like what people tend to go to right away because they're just trying to win and they're trying to like break the person down as they're trying to win the argument.
01:36:45.000 And I think it's real tempting.
01:36:47.000 And it's tempting to people because people like to be good at stuff.
01:36:50.000 And if you think you're smart and you think you got somebody and you're good at something and you can chase it down.
01:36:55.000 I mean, I don't argue.
01:36:57.000 If I ever argue, it's because I know I'm going to win.
01:37:02.000 That's the only time.
01:37:04.000 If there's a chance...
01:37:05.000 Like, you argue if you're right, for sure.
01:37:06.000 You're right.
01:37:07.000 Yeah.
01:37:07.000 And that's been in relationships.
01:37:09.000 Like, if I argue with you, it's not like I'm flying off the top.
01:37:12.000 I'm like this.
01:37:12.000 I have everything to win this argument.
01:37:15.000 That's why I don't get a lot of arguments, because a lot of them I can't win.
01:37:18.000 So I'm like, I'll just stand back and just take the abuse.
01:37:20.000 I don't mind arguing sometimes when you have to say something, because someone's saying something ridiculous.
01:37:25.000 And you gotta go, dude, stop.
01:37:27.000 That doesn't make any fucking sense.
01:37:28.000 Stop saying that.
01:37:30.000 I agree.
01:37:30.000 Because otherwise, sometimes people will pollute the environment with a bad idea.
01:37:36.000 I've had that situation in black podcasting.
01:37:40.000 I had a situation, and I know I would leave names out, but the thing, like you said, with someone to hear, you know, as a commenter, to hear, you're not funny.
01:37:52.000 In the common world of comedy, that's like the N-word of comedy.
01:37:55.000 It's very triggering.
01:37:58.000 I feel like it's a cry for help.
01:38:01.000 Almost always.
01:38:03.000 Almost always.
01:38:04.000 I mean, there's some shit that people say.
01:38:06.000 There's a lot of shit Cat Williams said that turned out to be true.
01:38:09.000 But I think there's this quote, is that...
01:38:14.000 All criticism is a tragic result of unmet needs.
01:38:18.000 That's a part of the quote.
01:38:19.000 But that part of the quote always resonates with me.
01:38:23.000 That's what it is.
01:38:24.000 These people, the reason why they're lashing out and saying you're not funny.
01:38:28.000 There's not more productive shit to do.
01:38:30.000 You're trying to attack someone who's getting more attention than you.
01:38:33.000 Why?
01:38:34.000 But I know that's a painful...
01:38:35.000 That's not real.
01:38:36.000 That's not real.
01:38:37.000 It still hurts, Joe.
01:38:38.000 To you, Joe.
01:38:40.000 But you shouldn't feel it at all.
01:38:42.000 Joe, I still read fucking comments, man.
01:38:45.000 They're still going from the RZA episode.
01:38:48.000 They won't let go.
01:38:49.000 They won't.
01:38:50.000 That's the first thing I told Donnell after the RZA episode.
01:38:53.000 I said, don't read the comments.
01:38:54.000 And that first thing I did, it's just so hard.
01:38:57.000 It's just hard.
01:38:58.000 Because it'll be going so well, Joe.
01:39:00.000 It'll be going so well.
01:39:02.000 He's a beast.
01:39:02.000 I love him.
01:39:03.000 Top five.
01:39:04.000 And then boom.
01:39:06.000 And the whole fucking day is shut the fuck down.
01:39:10.000 Yeah, you don't want that in your life, Donnell.
01:39:11.000 I don't listen.
01:39:13.000 I could get to there, but I don't listen.
01:39:15.000 But this is something you have to take into consideration.
01:39:17.000 I think, especially with someone like you as a public figure.
01:39:20.000 Motherfucker still think I ran off me!
01:39:21.000 Look at that.
01:39:21.000 That was us.
01:39:23.000 Aw, Brody.
01:39:23.000 I texted him the other day, he thanked me.
01:39:25.000 Aw, that was a good one.
01:39:25.000 Yeah, I like that photo of Brody, that painting.
01:39:28.000 We gotta put that back up in here.
01:39:29.000 Yeah, Vanessa, you made me stay.
01:39:31.000 Yeah.
01:39:32.000 You said, fuck my kid.
01:39:33.000 You said, fuck my kid.
01:39:34.000 I did not say that.
01:39:35.000 I said, I want to go home to see my son.
01:39:37.000 I definitely did not say that.
01:39:38.000 You was like, you got your kid, baby mama, RZA. I said, dude, the RZA's coming next.
01:39:42.000 Do you want to hang out?
01:39:43.000 Because we were just having a fun time.
01:39:44.000 But the minute, Joe, the minute I said, man, I haven't seen my son in two weeks, you're supposed to have been like this.
01:39:51.000 Oh, get out of here.
01:39:52.000 Go do that.
01:39:54.000 You heard me say I want to see my son.
01:39:56.000 And you said, I don't know.
01:39:59.000 It's the RZA, and I stayed.
01:40:02.000 Yeah, that was easy.
01:40:03.000 Just to get abused.
01:40:04.000 The devil just whispered in your ear.
01:40:06.000 Yeah, I told you I danced with a Mary once in a while.
01:40:08.000 Just to be abused.
01:40:09.000 No, listen, man, the podcast was fun.
01:40:11.000 It was funny.
01:40:11.000 It was a great podcast.
01:40:12.000 But these comment motherfuckers, Joe, they fucking evil, man.
01:40:15.000 But Donnell, it doesn't matter.
01:40:18.000 It doesn't matter.
01:40:18.000 They won't be invited to my church.
01:40:20.000 They're welcome to their opinion.
01:40:22.000 They're not coming to my church.
01:40:23.000 You don't want that in your head.
01:40:25.000 I don't, but I can't stay away from it.
01:40:27.000 Fuck them.
01:40:27.000 They should all be able to just let people go.
01:40:31.000 Just don't read it.
01:40:33.000 It's not good for you.
01:40:36.000 Even the good stuff's not good for you.
01:40:38.000 Nah, that's the good shit.
01:40:39.000 Top five, Mount Rushmore.
01:40:43.000 Hell yeah, killed, murdered.
01:40:45.000 That's how I want to be supported.
01:40:46.000 When we be on artificial intelligence, I want them to be on my dick.
01:40:49.000 It will be.
01:40:50.000 I want to be like, oh, best, top fives.
01:40:53.000 Oh, shit.
01:40:54.000 You got to see them underrated.
01:40:56.000 I don't want to hear none of that shit lame, cringe.
01:40:58.000 You know, that's kind of like what we were talking about earlier.
01:41:00.000 Like, if artificial intelligence gets to the point where it can formulate a game plan, and you actually follow that game plan, if artificial intelligence says, Donnell, we have sat down and devised a strategy to radically improve your popularity and your ticket sales.
01:41:16.000 This is how we're going to do it.
01:41:17.000 I love it.
01:41:18.000 It lays it out for you.
01:41:19.000 It tells you what to do.
01:41:21.000 You're going to develop a YouTube video every three or four months and put out a clip and do this.
01:41:28.000 I would love it.
01:41:29.000 I bet it would work.
01:41:30.000 I think...
01:41:32.000 Creativity, at this point, has to come from a person, especially your kind of joke writing, the things that you make fun of, things that I make fun of, the things that are unique to whoever the individual is.
01:41:44.000 The only thing that's gonna save us, and that's the people, if it's possible, Is that now, oh my god, they're going to be making robots.
01:41:52.000 Seeing a motherfucker live is going to be something about seeing somebody live.
01:41:57.000 I think that's the only thing that's saving TV is sports events.
01:42:00.000 That's the only thing people really, really tune into is what I have to watch in that moment.
01:42:04.000 Yeah, if you're watching a football game that is actually happening, there's a scramble, the ball gets thrown, someone's trying to catch it.
01:42:12.000 If you're watching a fight, dude's getting knocked out.
01:42:16.000 You're watching actual things that are happening in real time.
01:42:19.000 But if you're not, man...
01:42:21.000 And within four or five years, everything's going to be generated from a computer.
01:42:26.000 And who knows how you're going to interface with it.
01:42:28.000 Because they just started releasing these Apple Vision Pros.
01:42:32.000 I saw those.
01:42:33.000 Which are crazy.
01:42:34.000 You can walk around in them.
01:42:35.000 So you can be sitting in your living room with a giant screen and move things around and swipe things to the left and swipe things to the right.
01:42:41.000 So you can actually see stuff like glasses.
01:42:45.000 I can walk.
01:42:46.000 I can see like this.
01:42:47.000 You can walk around.
01:42:48.000 Yeah.
01:42:49.000 And then you have things that are in front of you.
01:42:50.000 So you can sit down.
01:42:51.000 And have an enormous movie screen in front of you and watch Avatar in 3D and just sit there like, whoa!
01:43:00.000 Or you can have a fucking spreadsheet and open it up.
01:43:05.000 You can open up a website.
01:43:07.000 You can fucking play video games.
01:43:09.000 And just by with your head in your hand, that's fucking crazy.
01:43:11.000 Five years from now, Donnell, with AI? Think about that with AI, where it just...
01:43:19.000 Brings you into a world where you literally feel like you're in that jungle in Avatar with the flying plants and all the Na'vi and all the fucking those crazy animals on the ground.
01:43:32.000 Imagine like that being around you, like indistinguishable from reality.
01:43:38.000 Smells, taste.
01:43:40.000 Everything.
01:43:41.000 All programmed into your mind.
01:43:43.000 Sinking your brain up with whatever this code is.
01:43:46.000 Joe, you're not recruiting me.
01:43:47.000 You're not recruiting me.
01:43:49.000 You know where I'm going to go?
01:43:51.000 I'm going to go to the woods.
01:43:52.000 I'm going to go to the river.
01:43:53.000 I'm going to say, you can have your fucking 3D glasses.
01:43:55.000 I'm going to go to the river.
01:43:57.000 I'm going to crawdad fish.
01:43:59.000 I'm going to take my son and let him ride ramps in the backyard.
01:44:02.000 I'm going to do regular shit while you're dealing with all of this 3D AI shit.
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:07.000 And I'm gonna get fucking David Tell's phone where nobody can get in touch with me.
01:44:11.000 Look at that.
01:44:12.000 If your girlfriend's yelling at you...
01:44:13.000 That guy's just watching YouTube.
01:44:16.000 She's yelling at him and he's watching a basketball game.
01:44:18.000 He's gonna disappear into the woods.
01:44:20.000 Oh, now he's in the woods.
01:44:21.000 Look at that.
01:44:21.000 Oh, that's where I'm going.
01:44:23.000 Come on, how beautiful is that?
01:44:26.000 It's kind of amazing.
01:44:27.000 I'm going to the woods.
01:44:28.000 The real woods.
01:44:29.000 I want to go to the real woods.
01:44:31.000 And again, that's one of the things I like about Yellow Springs, Ohio, and being there is disconnecting and going and do some regular shit.
01:44:39.000 The only thing that's going to save us from all of this alien shit and everything you know, Joe, is this!
01:44:48.000 Sleeping in the woods?
01:44:49.000 That's not sleeping.
01:44:50.000 That's chilling.
01:44:51.000 Chilling.
01:44:52.000 That's plants.
01:44:53.000 That's some regular shit.
01:44:55.000 The only thing that's going to save civilization is the woods, Joe.
01:45:00.000 That's it.
01:45:01.000 Doing regular shit and appreciating regular shit.
01:45:05.000 You're halfway there.
01:45:06.000 You like the woods to kill shit, but have you ever thought about living there?
01:45:10.000 No, I do.
01:45:11.000 I like the woods, period.
01:45:13.000 I don't just like the woods to kill shit.
01:45:15.000 You don't do shit but kill shit in the woods, man.
01:45:17.000 No, no, I go in the woods.
01:45:19.000 When was the last time you did it?
01:45:20.000 Sunday.
01:45:20.000 Non-killing something in the woods.
01:45:22.000 What was it?
01:45:22.000 When hiking.
01:45:24.000 Did you have a bowl?
01:45:25.000 Did I have a what?
01:45:26.000 A bowl with you just in case.
01:45:27.000 No, I had my dog.
01:45:28.000 No, I didn't have a bowl just in case.
01:45:32.000 Did you have a knife?
01:45:33.000 I always have a knife on me.
01:45:35.000 Okay, so you was prepared.
01:45:36.000 No, no, I was hiking.
01:45:39.000 I was outside of nature having a good time.
01:45:42.000 It was beautiful.
01:45:43.000 It may sound simple.
01:45:46.000 That's the only thing that's going to save us is getting in touch with nature.
01:45:50.000 That's the only motherfucking thing.
01:45:52.000 I disagree.
01:45:53.000 I think we're fucked.
01:45:55.000 I think getting in nature is going to be good for the individual, but I think for the species, I have a feeling we're the last of the Mohicans.
01:46:02.000 I'm not trying to save everybody.
01:46:03.000 Just me and my boy in the fucking woods.
01:46:05.000 You guys will be fine.
01:46:07.000 I feel like the human race, as this thing comes alive, I think we're greatly underestimating the impact that it's going to have.
01:46:17.000 We're not underestimating because you talk about it all the time and you know everything about it.
01:46:21.000 I learned more about what I'm preparing for in 10 years.
01:46:24.000 I definitely don't know everything about it.
01:46:26.000 In fact, my knowledge of it is pretty limited.
01:46:29.000 And a lot of it is speculative and unfounded.
01:46:32.000 For the average...
01:46:33.000 So for the average person that's never going to challenge you, that still has a flip phone, and that part of it, you know way more.
01:46:43.000 And what you're saying is very fucking believable.
01:46:45.000 We are doomed.
01:46:47.000 I had a conversation with Ray Kurzweil.
01:46:50.000 Who's one of the big names in artificial intelligence.
01:46:56.000 And he's all super rosy about the future of AI and that it's inevitable and that we're all going to do this.
01:47:02.000 And I'm like, well, what if someone gets in control of this?
01:47:06.000 Someone is going to be somebody in control.
01:47:08.000 And that's what scares the shit out of me, dude.
01:47:09.000 And no one seems to have an adequate answer for that.
01:47:13.000 And Elon is terrified of that, too, which really makes me scared.
01:47:16.000 If that fucking dude's scared of it, okay.
01:47:18.000 So that means that they know that we are building the type of technology that at some point we won't be able to control, is going to control us and take over us.
01:47:27.000 It's inevitable that that's going to happen.
01:47:29.000 Or we merge with it or we scale up our ability to control it as it gets implemented.
01:47:37.000 So even though it's more intelligent than us, we can still control it.
01:47:41.000 But we're always going to have a nutty professor.
01:47:44.000 Well, the thing is, if it becomes a living thing, right?
01:47:48.000 So what they're doing right now is everything exists in an actual computer.
01:47:54.000 There's nothing that exists in a physical form except these robots that they're using to clean up kitchens and shit.
01:48:00.000 Have you seen those yet?
01:48:01.000 No, I haven't.
01:48:02.000 It's disturbing.
01:48:03.000 The biggest part...
01:48:04.000 You talk to the robot, and the robot can pick plates up and put them in the drying rack, and it talks to you.
01:48:09.000 And I look at it, and I'm like, okay, that is just a really crude, shitty...
01:48:14.000 I compare it to the Model T. That's a Model T. And if you look at the exponential increase in technology...
01:48:20.000 What was the first year you got a phone?
01:48:23.000 What year was that?
01:48:24.000 Phone, it had to be probably...
01:48:26.000 Oh, shit.
01:48:29.000 Earl...
01:48:32.000 Probably like 82. Damn, you had an early one.
01:48:35.000 I was fronting like I was a drug dealer.
01:48:37.000 You had an 82?
01:48:39.000 Wow.
01:48:39.000 Yeah, that was the thing.
01:48:41.000 Did you have the briefcase?
01:48:42.000 A briefcase for you?
01:48:43.000 I had the briefcase joint, yeah.
01:48:45.000 I had one that was built into my car in 88, but then I couldn't afford that.
01:48:50.000 I didn't get another phone after that.
01:48:51.000 It was about minutes.
01:48:53.000 You couldn't afford that shit.
01:48:53.000 It was too expensive.
01:48:54.000 That shit didn't work.
01:48:55.000 I just had it.
01:48:55.000 But I had a job back then, too.
01:48:57.000 But then I got another one, I think, in 94. I think it was 93. That's right.
01:49:05.000 And it was a Motorola StarTAC.
01:49:07.000 I remember that was the coolest shit you could have.
01:49:10.000 That was only 30 years ago.
01:49:11.000 Right.
01:49:11.000 Okay.
01:49:12.000 30 years ago.
01:49:13.000 From that to what you have today is insane.
01:49:16.000 Insane.
01:49:16.000 The only thing, Joe, this is the only thing that's going to save humanity.
01:49:20.000 Battery life.
01:49:21.000 Yeah, but China has developed these nuclear-powered batteries.
01:49:25.000 We were just talking about that.
01:49:26.000 They could power a cell phone for 50 years.
01:49:31.000 Yeah.
01:49:31.000 I don't know if it's just theoretical or if they've actually implemented it.
01:49:34.000 That's the sort of thing I'm thinking.
01:49:34.000 I was like, the motherfucking battery has to die.
01:49:37.000 Not necessarily.
01:49:39.000 It's just a matter of what they use for the fuel.
01:49:43.000 What we're dealing with now is no different than what every civilization has always been dealing with.
01:49:49.000 If you could go back to the 1700s before they had...
01:49:53.000 Vaccines, before they had antibiotics and medication, and just show those people back then a cell phone.
01:50:00.000 They would think you're a wizard.
01:50:02.000 Or a witch.
01:50:02.000 A witch.
01:50:03.000 A witch, yeah.
01:50:04.000 A warlock, a Satanist.
01:50:06.000 And if you called somebody to answer, they would really thought that you were the devil.
01:50:09.000 That's insane.
01:50:10.000 If you were talking to someone, FaceTime from another place, that's normal shit now.
01:50:15.000 Whatever the fuck that robot is, you take that robot that cleans kitchens and scale that bitch up 200 years from now, you got a sexy lady who's in lingerie, who's cleaning your house and sucks your dick, and you're never going to mess with real ladies again.
01:50:33.000 And then the human race goes extinct because no one wants to breed anymore.
01:50:38.000 That's how they're going to do it.
01:50:39.000 Human race is going to go extinct when there's a female robot that can make a sandwich and suck a dick.
01:50:44.000 This is what I think.
01:50:45.000 That's what you think?
01:50:46.000 Yeah.
01:50:46.000 I like the way you think.
01:50:47.000 That's what I think.
01:50:48.000 But it's going to be another fucking robot hating on the bitch.
01:50:51.000 Nope.
01:50:52.000 She's sucking his dick, but she's not making no money with him.
01:50:54.000 The robots only want to please us so we die off.
01:50:58.000 The robots want to leave all the ladies barren and all the men, just no jizz.
01:51:03.000 They just suck them off all day.
01:51:05.000 And then leave them ambitionless, childless, and then they die off.
01:51:11.000 The funny thing is, what you said is, all I'm thinking about is, I did a roast with Whitney Cummings, and they had a robot of her.
01:51:18.000 And I was thinking just now, who fucked Whitney's robot?
01:51:22.000 Somebody did.
01:51:22.000 Somebody did.
01:51:23.000 Somebody did.
01:51:23.000 She probably let her boyfriend do it.
01:51:24.000 I tried to.
01:51:24.000 I did.
01:51:25.000 Somebody fuck that robot.
01:51:26.000 Shut up to her robot.
01:51:27.000 Wendy's the type of bitch that'll tell someone, stick your dick in that robot before me.
01:51:31.000 I want to watch.
01:51:32.000 Do it.
01:51:33.000 She got down like that.
01:51:35.000 I don't know.
01:51:37.000 I'm guessing.
01:51:38.000 She would be experimental too.
01:51:40.000 She'd be like, okay, let's shoot this.
01:51:41.000 Fuck my robot's mouth.
01:51:43.000 She's a mom.
01:51:44.000 I talked to her like three weeks ago.
01:51:45.000 It's so cool seeing her.
01:51:46.000 It's wild, right?
01:51:47.000 Being her, being a mom.
01:51:48.000 She's so smart.
01:51:49.000 She's going to be a great mom.
01:51:50.000 She's such an interesting person.
01:51:52.000 And I asked her, I said, you know, with the success that you've had and everything, you're doing well for yourself, you do well for other people, you help other people.
01:51:59.000 I said, do you think?
01:52:01.000 Because that's a tough question for successful women in this business.
01:52:05.000 I said, do you feel like having a baby boy completed you?
01:52:11.000 And she said, yes.
01:52:13.000 And that's a tough thing because sometimes women are so career driven that that part of them or that part of experiencing life, they don't really care about it or just say it's in passing.
01:52:24.000 But she said that she does feel complete and it makes her like a better person.
01:52:29.000 And she just got a nice mommy, mom energy.
01:52:34.000 Yeah.
01:52:36.000 Yeah, I think...
01:52:37.000 And then she ran out of animals to buy.
01:52:39.000 That's when white women are about to...
01:52:41.000 Doesn't she have a horse?
01:52:42.000 She has a horse.
01:52:42.000 White women buy horses?
01:52:44.000 She has rescue horses.
01:52:46.000 Yeah, rescue horses.
01:52:48.000 When they start buying different animals, like animals that the average person don't have, like orangutans and shit like that, that's when they be like, yep, I'm about to have a baby.
01:52:57.000 She connected me with the people that run this wolf sanctuary.
01:53:00.000 And I went up to the wolf sanctuary, and I thought I was going to like it, but I didn't like it at all.
01:53:04.000 I didn't like it at all.
01:53:06.000 I didn't like it at all.
01:53:08.000 What do you think she thought you were going to enjoy about it?
01:53:11.000 I don't know.
01:53:12.000 I mean, like they're helping these wolves and they're preserving these wolves and they take wolves off of ranches and capture them and keep them in this place.
01:53:20.000 But man, it just it just bummed me out big time.
01:53:24.000 The males have all been castrated.
01:53:27.000 They've all been fixed.
01:53:28.000 Yeah, that bummed me out.
01:53:30.000 And then they're all in these cages and they're getting stared at by people.
01:53:35.000 So they're not preserving the race?
01:53:36.000 I mean, they're not preserving the race.
01:53:38.000 They let them out.
01:53:39.000 They interact with them.
01:53:40.000 You can interact with some.
01:53:42.000 But it overwhelmingly bummed me out.
01:53:46.000 Because, you know, I'm...
01:53:50.000 I don't like the idea of wild predators being trapped in cages.
01:53:55.000 I went to the zoo.
01:53:56.000 I took my son to the zoo and it was like one of the best worst experiences I had.
01:54:01.000 Yeah.
01:54:02.000 It's just the excitement.
01:54:03.000 It's just like how much we so selfish.
01:54:06.000 The excitement of like it was when the tigers came out of the cage and everybody was like...
01:54:12.000 Oh my god, yay!
01:54:13.000 They start clapping for the tiger.
01:54:14.000 And I'm like, this motherfucker's used to walking like 50, 60 miles a day trying to kill some shit.
01:54:21.000 And this motherfucker's in 300 square feet and we're clapping for it and it just felt.
01:54:26.000 The excitement that the kids had was one thing, but knowing what has to go down.
01:54:33.000 And then for the people, here's the people that got the toughest job.
01:54:37.000 The tour, people that speak on the animals and everything.
01:54:41.000 They're like, and this is Zimba's looking a little frustrated today.
01:54:44.000 You know, the ones that got to make it feel like they're having a happy experience.
01:54:48.000 Yeah, because everybody's been throwing shit at this motherfucker.
01:54:51.000 Of course, you would be frustrated too, but it feels so wrong and so right at the same time.
01:54:56.000 Yeah.
01:54:57.000 Safari.
01:54:57.000 I want to go on a safari.
01:54:59.000 That's real.
01:54:59.000 That's the real thing.
01:55:01.000 Safari's a different thing.
01:55:03.000 The thing that bums me out is the primates.
01:55:06.000 I went to the zoo in Denver and I remember we had gotten there right when we turned around this monkey cage, right when this monkey was just wailing.
01:55:24.000 He just decided he couldn't take it anymore and he's in this cage and he's wailing.
01:55:29.000 What year did they decide they couldn't take it anymore?
01:55:32.000 Really like he's wanting to get the fuck up out of here?
01:55:35.000 But I was on an edible.
01:55:37.000 Okay.
01:55:38.000 And I just was feeling this monkey's pain, the screaming.
01:55:42.000 He was just screaming, no!
01:55:47.000 Because there's this little ass cage as small as this room.
01:55:50.000 And he's just running around grabbing branches.
01:55:52.000 He's bored as fuck, man.
01:55:55.000 Now you add motherfuckers taking pictures of you all fucking day.
01:55:59.000 This is so fucked up, and I know I shouldn't have did it, but I rented a monkey, right?
01:56:07.000 We had a petting hole thing.
01:56:09.000 I rented a monkey, and the monkey definitely had some shit going on, right?
01:56:16.000 Because they gave the monkey, I feel so bad.
01:56:19.000 Everybody was at the monkey, looking at the monkey, and all of a sudden, I heard everybody say, ew, yuck.
01:56:24.000 The monkey was eating a lollipop, jerking off.
01:56:30.000 Yo, Joe, I swear, in my church, I swear my son's life, everybody was like, where the fuck you get this monkey from?
01:56:39.000 Right?
01:56:40.000 But now, it's like, you know the phrase, he had his trainer monkey see, monkey do something.
01:56:45.000 And I'm just thinking, the trainer just sits around his monkey.
01:56:50.000 Eat a lot if I was jerking off.
01:56:53.000 And the monkey was looking like, he was looking like, I wish the fuck somebody would say shit, but the cover back on, leave me the fuck alone.
01:57:01.000 And the monkey was looking people directly in the eyes, Joe.
01:57:06.000 It wasn't like the monkey discovered it.
01:57:10.000 It was like, this monkey's like, this is how we get to fuck off work early.
01:57:14.000 Did you ever see that video of the dude who's like sitting there and a monkey hops in his lap and then he's like trying to be cool with this monkey and the monkey just decides to scalp him?
01:57:22.000 Just bites his head and takes a giant chunk of his scalp off?
01:57:26.000 Have you ever seen it?
01:57:27.000 No, I don't really go for those types.
01:57:28.000 You want to see it?
01:57:29.000 I really don't.
01:57:30.000 You don't want to see it?
01:57:30.000 I'm not built for that.
01:57:31.000 That's amazing.
01:57:32.000 You have amazing willpower.
01:57:34.000 I don't want to do it.
01:57:35.000 I would definitely want to see it.
01:57:35.000 I'd be like, what?
01:57:36.000 Show me that.
01:57:37.000 That's the difference.
01:57:38.000 You're very into that.
01:57:40.000 That's like that nature metal, one of those websites where...
01:57:43.000 Nature's metal, yeah.
01:57:45.000 Yeah, I can't handle that shit.
01:57:47.000 But man, taking one of those creatures and forcing it to live in captivity is torture.
01:57:53.000 And it has to be a point.
01:57:54.000 Where they know it's going to be the breaking point.
01:57:56.000 Yeah, that monkey, when I turned the corner, like right when I was going towards the cages, I just watched him just jump on the cage.
01:58:04.000 It's just like...
01:58:09.000 And you just kept one?
01:58:10.000 You take pictures?
01:58:11.000 No, man.
01:58:12.000 I got bummed out.
01:58:13.000 I got really bummed out.
01:58:14.000 That might have been the last...
01:58:16.000 No, I definitely went to the zoo after that.
01:58:18.000 And I know when they go...
01:58:19.000 I wonder...
01:58:20.000 But most of those monkeys, they get them from when they were babies, right?
01:58:23.000 Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
01:58:24.000 It's still torture.
01:58:25.000 It's still torture.
01:58:26.000 You think that monkey could like...
01:58:30.000 If you was like, fuck it, we're leaving, and you just took him to the jungle that he could...
01:58:35.000 No, he's fucked.
01:58:36.000 He'd get fucked up, right?
01:58:37.000 He'd get fucked up.
01:58:38.000 Yeah, he wouldn't be a part of a troop.
01:58:39.000 Why?
01:58:40.000 Because he wouldn't know how to fight or none of that shit, right?
01:58:42.000 He probably wouldn't be socialized.
01:58:43.000 He wouldn't know the dynamics of social dynamics.
01:58:44.000 Waiting for feeding time and shit, knowing that's every man for himself, every monkey for himself.
01:58:48.000 Yeah, he would have no idea.
01:58:49.000 He would be fucked.
01:58:50.000 They'd probably kill him.
01:58:51.000 When I was in Costa Rica, I saw a monkey.
01:58:54.000 There's monkeys everywhere.
01:58:55.000 And one monkey was missing a foot.
01:58:57.000 One of his hands was gone.
01:58:59.000 And I said to the dude, I go, what happened to him, do you think?
01:59:02.000 And he's like, oh, they bite each other's hands off all the time.
01:59:05.000 Matter of fact.
01:59:05.000 I was like, what?
01:59:06.000 They bite each other's hands off?
01:59:10.000 What?
01:59:12.000 They're primitive.
01:59:13.000 They're monkeys, Joe.
01:59:14.000 What the fuck do you want them to do?
01:59:16.000 But they're also resort monkeys, so they come around and try to get Oreos from you and candy bars.
01:59:20.000 Those are thieves.
01:59:21.000 But they want that from you and people give it to them.
01:59:23.000 And so you can watch them.
01:59:25.000 They'll take an Oreo and open it up and eat the white stuff.
01:59:27.000 They're used to it.
01:59:28.000 And you're like, you know how to do that?
01:59:29.000 Like, they know how to do that.
01:59:31.000 And that's the only thing they're accustomed to.
01:59:32.000 And then if they go to the regular woods and they'll be like, get your bitch ass Oreo cooking, eating ass motherfucker out of here.
01:59:38.000 You can tell a difference between a monkey that grew up on grabbing his food and a motherfucker that's stealing Oreos.
01:59:44.000 Yeah.
01:59:45.000 It's in their eyes, I'm sure of it.
01:59:46.000 Well, monkeys can get to populations that are very big and then they get super aggressive.
01:59:52.000 And then you got real problems.
01:59:54.000 You got real problems.
01:59:55.000 That happens in India.
01:59:56.000 Like there was one monkey, a dog I guess had killed one monkey.
02:00:01.000 And so because of that, they just decided to start killing dogs.
02:00:05.000 I remember that.
02:00:06.000 That felt like a movie.
02:00:08.000 I remember that.
02:00:10.000 It was like monkeys from everywhere.
02:00:13.000 Just like, any dog, go in your house because it's going to be a problem.
02:00:17.000 Bro, they were throwing dogs off roofs.
02:00:19.000 The monkeys were.
02:00:20.000 And it looked like they knew, like, yo, we're going to get these motherfuckers.
02:00:24.000 They did know.
02:00:25.000 They did know.
02:00:26.000 Two killer monkeys captured in India after a revenge massacre of 250 dogs.
02:00:31.000 Bro.
02:00:33.000 Where are my dogs at?
02:00:34.000 That is so crazy.
02:00:36.000 250. They're fucking smart and they're fucking dangerous.
02:00:40.000 And the thing is, they'll steal your baby, man.
02:00:43.000 They'll steal kids.
02:00:44.000 They're fucking creeps.
02:00:45.000 They're not stealing my baby.
02:00:46.000 Not yours, but if you're not paying attention.
02:00:48.000 They're creeps.
02:00:49.000 They have to give you a warning like, these are the babies snatching.
02:00:52.000 I mean, it's like, here's the babies snatching monkeys, here's the Oreo-eating monkeys, and here are just the monkey monkeys with all the mental issues.
02:01:02.000 Did you ever see the footage of Thailand when they were rampaging through the streets because all the tourists were gone because it was COVID? No.
02:01:08.000 Did you ever see that?
02:01:09.000 It's insane.
02:01:10.000 The monkeys just took up...
02:01:12.000 They were so used to the tourists.
02:01:14.000 So they're so used to the tourists feeding them.
02:01:15.000 Look at all these monkeys.
02:01:16.000 Oh, that's the one I was talking about.
02:01:18.000 Goddamn!
02:01:18.000 How crazy is that?
02:01:20.000 I mean, there's so many of them, man.
02:01:22.000 They're everywhere.
02:01:23.000 So if you're around them, man, you're in danger.
02:01:27.000 Like, if you have food, you're fucked.
02:01:29.000 They will 100% take your food.
02:01:31.000 And if you try to fight them, they'll pull your fucking face off.
02:01:34.000 They look like the riots.
02:01:36.000 Bro, there's so many of them.
02:01:37.000 That looks great.
02:01:38.000 What is the number of monkeys were in that?
02:01:42.000 Does it say?
02:01:42.000 The video says thousands.
02:01:43.000 I don't...
02:01:45.000 God.
02:01:46.000 Bro, you gotta start shooting monkeys.
02:01:49.000 Somebody needs to go out there with a shotgun and start taking care of business.
02:01:52.000 I'm not going anywhere with wildlife other than the woods.
02:01:54.000 I deal with snakes and shit like that.
02:01:56.000 Bro, ancient Thai city that's overrun with monkeys.
02:01:59.000 Look, as long as they stay cool.
02:02:01.000 But I guess you just have to feed them to keep them cool.
02:02:04.000 There's not gonna be enough food.
02:02:05.000 I guess if they, like...
02:02:07.000 He put a tiger head in the shop to scare him away.
02:02:09.000 No!
02:02:10.000 Did he really?
02:02:10.000 I got a tiger's head as well.
02:02:12.000 That's hilarious.
02:02:13.000 Like, he doesn't know that monkey knows that that thing doesn't move.
02:02:15.000 There's gonna be one monkey to go touch him, like, no, motherfucker, get the fuck him out of here.
02:02:19.000 Yeah, this is cool shit, man.
02:02:19.000 Look, they're just hanging.
02:02:21.000 Look at the balls on that monkey, too.
02:02:24.000 Increasingly aggressive.
02:02:26.000 Street brawls.
02:02:27.000 Whoa!
02:02:27.000 Rival macaque gangs.
02:02:29.000 Worldstar.
02:02:30.000 Bro, they have rival gangs of monkeys.
02:02:32.000 That's crazy.
02:02:34.000 It affects their health when they eat human food.
02:02:38.000 Yeah, they fucking feel better.
02:02:39.000 The more energy they have, yeah.
02:02:42.000 If they eat human food, it's probably better.
02:02:44.000 I watch that and I say, God bless America.
02:02:45.000 If you could give monkeys cheeseburgers, they'd be pumped.
02:02:49.000 But then you have a monkey like this.
02:02:50.000 I was going to say double-double.
02:02:52.000 Like, no, it'll be monkeys coming up here.
02:02:54.000 Oh, man, that's how people from different cities come in.
02:02:57.000 Like, this is my first In-N-Out burger.
02:02:59.000 That's what I would be.
02:03:01.000 Here's the thing about those monkeys in Thailand.
02:03:03.000 Was that always like that?
02:03:04.000 Like, when did they get overrun by monkeys?
02:03:07.000 Like, did they have those amount of monkeys 20 years ago?
02:03:11.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:03:12.000 I think we'd probably be during the pandemic when it got real crazy.
02:03:15.000 Well, I think that got real crazy where they wanted the gangs and they started like...
02:03:20.000 Because there's no more food.
02:03:21.000 Because the tourists weren't there.
02:03:22.000 They was like separating which one?
02:03:24.000 East side, west side, monkey?
02:03:25.000 But my thought was like, were there that many of them in cities 20 years ago?
02:03:29.000 Or is that a recent thing?
02:03:31.000 Is that a thing where they're figuring it out and then their population is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger?
02:03:36.000 Joe, they're getting prepared for AI. They know it's coming.
02:03:39.000 I don't think they are.
02:03:40.000 They're getting prepared for AI. They know that once they create the first...
02:03:49.000 Monkey created through artificial intelligence that all of them, they're going to be out of business.
02:03:55.000 They're prepared for it the same way, but they're just not talking about it, Joe.
02:03:59.000 And that's the only thing that separates them from us is the ability to communicate.
02:04:03.000 There's speculation more recently that they're actually missing now.
02:04:05.000 This monkey's taking the same shit that you're missing?
02:04:08.000 Monkeys are going missing.
02:04:09.000 They're seeing less numbers in the streets.
02:04:12.000 They're speculating.
02:04:13.000 They're leaving Hollywood.
02:04:15.000 Traffickers have snuggled them out of the country.
02:04:17.000 They're leaving, Joe.
02:04:18.000 I think I actually said snuggled them.
02:04:20.000 I meant smuggled them.
02:04:22.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
02:04:23.000 They're leaving Hollywood.
02:04:24.000 They're going somewhere else where it feels safer.
02:04:27.000 And it's easier.
02:04:28.000 Same thing with me, Joe.
02:04:29.000 A lot of them, they go to private zoos, we found out, in the Middle East.
02:04:33.000 Everybody can't afford a private zoo.
02:04:35.000 A lot of ballers can, though.
02:04:36.000 And that's like a thing, to have a private zoo and to have your own...
02:04:39.000 If you're some dude and you're living in some...
02:04:42.000 So you're rescuing these monkeys...
02:04:45.000 And then you're putting them in a private zoo to do what?
02:04:49.000 What is your life goal after that?
02:04:51.000 Well, people stare at those monkeys at their private zoo.
02:04:54.000 That's what I think.
02:04:55.000 I think there's insanely wealthy people that have private zoos.
02:04:59.000 I think it's a normal thing.
02:05:01.000 Thousands of monkeys invade Thai city driving out tourists and businesses.
02:05:04.000 This is recently.
02:05:06.000 Yeah, so it's like this is back to what it was during the pandemic.
02:05:08.000 It looks like they're invading that city.
02:05:10.000 They're coming back.
02:05:10.000 And it says some investors might take their money out until they address the issue.
02:05:14.000 It's about to be some poison.
02:05:17.000 They're about to poison the shit out of the monkeys.
02:05:20.000 3,500 monkeys.
02:05:21.000 They're going to do some lace Oreos.
02:05:23.000 They're about to kill all of them.
02:05:24.000 They're going to have to do something like that?
02:05:26.000 Yeah.
02:05:27.000 They're going to give them COVID. The monkeys is dead.
02:05:31.000 They're probably going to give them some poison.
02:05:33.000 I think at a certain point you kind of have to control the population, as sick as that sounds.
02:05:38.000 That's crazy to just let them climb on people.
02:05:41.000 They're going to take about a thousand of them.
02:05:43.000 Mm-hmm.
02:05:44.000 Right?
02:05:46.000 Put them away.
02:05:47.000 Put them away.
02:05:48.000 Or just have them somewhere when they want to give them the breed.
02:05:51.000 This sounds crazy.
02:05:52.000 I think they're just going to poison a fucking load of them.
02:05:54.000 I think you were right the first time.
02:05:55.000 They can't poison all...
02:05:55.000 Why not?
02:05:56.000 I'm right the second time, Joe.
02:05:58.000 Can't kill them all, Joe.
02:05:59.000 You don't have to kill them all.
02:06:01.000 Then what are you going to do about it?
02:06:02.000 There's so many of them.
02:06:02.000 You just give it a certain amount of food.
02:06:04.000 And the most aggressive ones are the ones that are going to get the food first.
02:06:07.000 And so that way you get rid of the most douchey of all the douchey monkeys.
02:06:11.000 Oh, then you say, okay, that makes sense.
02:06:13.000 My guests would get about 4,000 of them, round them up, and then they give them some poison, and the other one is just, psst, it's hot.
02:06:19.000 Yeah, they start back up.
02:06:21.000 Listen, either one can work, but I think that rounding them up, you could probably sell them.
02:06:26.000 They're probably worth a lot of money.
02:06:27.000 I think there's a lot more of those private zoos than we like to think there are.
02:06:32.000 Yeah, but I don't know anybody that has a private zoo.
02:06:35.000 I don't even know anybody that would know about a private zoo.
02:06:37.000 You don't know any oil dudes either.
02:06:38.000 There's probably some oil dudes out there that got a private zoo.
02:06:42.000 That's the oil dude.
02:06:43.000 You got a thousand Ferraris and a private zoo.
02:06:46.000 Saudi Arabia.
02:06:47.000 Yeah, you got a tiger.
02:06:49.000 Dubai.
02:06:49.000 You got a bunch of monkeys.
02:06:51.000 And you got your own zoo.
02:06:52.000 We got these right from Thailand.
02:06:54.000 It's not enough of those old dudes to keep the species alive.
02:06:59.000 So back to my situation.
02:07:01.000 Keep the species alive.
02:07:03.000 Lock up 3,000 other monkeys and then poison the rest of them and then you can control.
02:07:07.000 It's the new Bob Barker.
02:07:08.000 Help control the pet population.
02:07:11.000 Have your monkey spayed and neutered.
02:07:14.000 We can change the world.
02:07:15.000 I think you just got to control the populations.
02:07:17.000 And unfortunately, the only way to control the populations is either give them birth control, which is a problem, right?
02:07:23.000 In the hood.
02:07:24.000 That's weird.
02:07:25.000 Anyway.
02:07:25.000 In the streets.
02:07:26.000 How's that going to work?
02:07:27.000 Or you have to kill them.
02:07:29.000 Or you sell them to rich dudes who have their own.
02:07:33.000 They've been there since the 13th century.
02:07:35.000 Oh, wow.
02:07:35.000 That's a bad idea, Jordan.
02:07:37.000 I could just get rid of them.
02:07:38.000 How many did they have back then?
02:07:39.000 Was it those kind of numbers?
02:07:40.000 The numbers have gone up and down.
02:07:41.000 I was reading through a tourist thing about people going to the city, like, remember the last train leaves at 1806, so you don't want to get stuck there.
02:07:47.000 Stuck by the monkeys?
02:07:49.000 Bro, imagine if you get stuck by the monkeys and you got a candy bar and they just fuck you up.
02:07:54.000 If you try to eat a candy bar in front of those monkeys, they will fuck you up.
02:07:59.000 I think both of our theories have just been shitted on.
02:08:01.000 Yeah, both of them.
02:08:02.000 1300. It's not going to be enough.
02:08:04.000 But then again, how old is that city?
02:08:06.000 I think whenever they find groups of people, they probably realize they're cute and people give them food if they have any extra.
02:08:13.000 Only tourists.
02:08:14.000 Then if the tourists are not going to come, they go back to their normal wildness.
02:08:17.000 Yeah.
02:08:18.000 Tourists are the only thing that probably kept them cool.
02:08:19.000 I wonder if wolves will ever get to the point again where they become dogs again.
02:08:24.000 Like, the reason why wolves became dogs is because people were having campfires, the wolves would come around, they'd feed them, and those are the ones that stayed close, their ears got floppier, and then they started breeding them, and then they became dogs, over thousands of years.
02:08:37.000 I wonder if we'll fuck things up so hardcore, and wolves would be so everywhere again, the real wolves would be everywhere again, and we'll start doing dogs again from scratch.
02:08:48.000 Which species would be first?
02:08:49.000 I know a Chihuahua, my punk ass dog.
02:08:51.000 Yeah, definitely the closest one.
02:08:53.000 Huskies, German Shepherds.
02:08:54.000 Not a Frenchie.
02:08:55.000 They probably looked like that.
02:08:56.000 They probably looked like just many, many, many, many.
02:09:00.000 Because you've got to think a dog or even a wolf.
02:09:02.000 How long do they live?
02:09:03.000 Like how long does a wolf live in the wild?
02:09:05.000 Is it like a dog or like an old one is like 15, 16 years old?
02:09:09.000 How long does a wolf live?
02:09:10.000 Life expectancy of a wolf.
02:09:14.000 Captivity is up to 20 and it says the wild is no longer than 10 years usually.
02:09:18.000 Wow, up to 20 in captivity.
02:09:20.000 So it's basically like a dog, like up to 20, like dogs that live 20 years.
02:09:23.000 So let's imagine...
02:09:33.000 We're good to go.
02:09:51.000 You have a totally different animal because you're dealing with so many generations.
02:09:54.000 And they did it for thousands of years.
02:09:57.000 In over hundreds of years, so we're going to have robotic motherfuckers raising these wolfdogs.
02:10:05.000 That's your prediction.
02:10:07.000 No.
02:10:09.000 One of many things can happen.
02:10:11.000 One thing can happen is natural disaster.
02:10:13.000 Natural disaster, like a big one, like Yellowstone blowing up.
02:10:18.000 Like, Yellowstone is a super volcano, and if it blows up, it's like a continent killer.
02:10:23.000 It's gonna fuck up the whole continent.
02:10:25.000 Does it have the possibility of...
02:10:27.000 100%.
02:10:28.000 100%.
02:10:29.000 It goes every six to eight hundred thousand years.
02:10:33.000 And I think the last time it went was 600,000 years ago.
02:10:36.000 Oh, shit.
02:10:36.000 I was preparing for this total eclipse.
02:10:39.000 Nah, the total eclipse is nothing.
02:10:41.000 That's April?
02:10:43.000 April 8th.
02:10:44.000 That's going to be fun.
02:10:44.000 That'll be interesting to watch.
02:10:45.000 Are you going to watch it?
02:10:46.000 I'm going to be in Ohio when it happens.
02:10:47.000 It's going right here.
02:10:47.000 It's traveling right above here.
02:10:48.000 But they say Ohio is the best place to see it.
02:10:50.000 Is that true?
02:10:51.000 Dave probably told you that.
02:10:53.000 No, no.
02:10:54.000 I think Bert Kreischer told me because he's going to be there.
02:10:56.000 Bert Kreischer is not necessarily Wikipedia.
02:10:59.000 Right.
02:10:59.000 I don't.
02:11:00.000 Why you hating, man?
02:11:01.000 No.
02:11:02.000 Goddamn, what's wrong with you today?
02:11:04.000 Fuck Whitney and her baby.
02:11:07.000 Fuck Dave and Tail.
02:11:09.000 Fucking Bird Chrysler doesn't know shit about anything galactic.
02:11:12.000 What the fuck is going?
02:11:13.000 It's a new day, Joe.
02:11:14.000 So this is the path.
02:11:15.000 Yellow Springs is a great spot.
02:11:17.000 Right in the center.
02:11:18.000 Just as good as here though.
02:11:19.000 Just as good as here though.
02:11:21.000 Look, we're in Austin.
02:11:23.000 It goes right through us.
02:11:25.000 Yeah, but Jamie, I like the idea of me being right.
02:11:28.000 I was right.
02:11:29.000 Yeah, we're definitely right.
02:11:30.000 But I mean, it literally passes right through us.
02:11:34.000 So where are we, Jamie?
02:11:36.000 Go to where we are.
02:11:40.000 And this happens every, what, seven years?
02:11:42.000 I feel like I've been to one before.
02:11:44.000 So we'll see.
02:11:45.000 We'll get a very, very, very, very good view of it.
02:11:48.000 But you need to be about 50 miles.
02:11:50.000 What time, Jamie?
02:11:51.000 I don't know.
02:11:52.000 I think it's like one o'clock, it says.
02:11:53.000 Yeah.
02:11:54.000 A.M., of course.
02:11:55.000 No, P.M., P.M., P.M. I wouldn't be a Sunday.
02:11:58.000 Well, there's got to be some places you can go where you don't have to make a big deal out of it.
02:12:04.000 I think you can look through that.
02:12:05.000 If you have a Tesla with the right roof, you can look through that safely because it's got all the protection on it.
02:12:10.000 Oh, that's outrageous.
02:12:11.000 That's what I read.
02:12:12.000 Well, Roka's making glasses.
02:12:14.000 They're making glasses.
02:12:15.000 Just specific for this?
02:12:16.000 Yeah, just specific for this.
02:12:17.000 So you can't look at it for not any period of time?
02:12:19.000 It's not good to look at it at all.
02:12:20.000 I remember what happened when I was a kid in Ohio.
02:12:22.000 Like, I don't know.
02:12:23.000 I would have been like 95 or something.
02:12:25.000 It was a weird day.
02:12:26.000 But it gets really strangely dark outside for a little bit.
02:12:29.000 You want to look at it, obviously, because you're attracted to it.
02:12:31.000 Right.
02:12:32.000 It will fuck up your eyes, just like staring at like a laser.
02:12:34.000 Okay.
02:12:35.000 It could get bad if you look at it for a long time.
02:12:37.000 I don't think I'm going to look at it that long.
02:12:39.000 Not long enough for it to go bad.
02:12:41.000 I mean, it is interesting, but in the greater scheme of the universe, is it that interesting?
02:12:45.000 All it is is alignment of stars.
02:12:48.000 But it's something that makes it interesting that it doesn't happen every, what, ten years?
02:12:53.000 That's true.
02:12:55.000 Jamie, I'm going to send you something because this is interesting.
02:12:59.000 Do you remember when Trump looked at the eclipse?
02:13:03.000 Oh yeah, he looked right at it, right?
02:13:08.000 His blink, squinting his eyes is fucking hilarious.
02:13:11.000 Those are the guys he stormed.
02:13:14.000 Yeah, he's so ridiculous.
02:13:17.000 Um, hold on.
02:13:19.000 I gotta find this fucking thing.
02:13:23.000 Joe, you asked me time and time again about my special.
02:13:26.000 You didn't even watch it.
02:13:28.000 Nope.
02:13:28.000 I don't watch anything.
02:13:30.000 I'm too busy right now.
02:13:32.000 And plus, I don't even know if I got a link.
02:13:34.000 Someone send me a link?
02:13:35.000 You'd have to, like, send me a link for me to watch it.
02:13:37.000 It's streaming on Netflix, Joe.
02:13:39.000 Oh, when did it start?
02:13:40.000 February 27th.
02:13:41.000 Thank you for that.
02:13:41.000 I didn't know.
02:13:43.000 It's streaming.
02:13:43.000 It's actually streaming.
02:13:45.000 It's on Netflix.
02:13:45.000 Oh, you need an advance link.
02:13:47.000 No.
02:13:48.000 An advance of...
02:13:49.000 You need it before everybody gets to see it.
02:13:52.000 I didn't know it was out.
02:13:53.000 That's the only way you would watch it, if you had a private...
02:13:56.000 Link with codes and everything, Joe?
02:13:58.000 That's how I like to watch things.
02:14:00.000 So just like putting the name of it in Netflix, you don't do that, right, Joe?
02:14:08.000 Well, I don't do that anymore.
02:14:09.000 So you're preparing for artificial intelligence of a special release?
02:14:13.000 Yeah, that's a better way to do it.
02:14:15.000 Alright.
02:14:17.000 That's not what I'm saying.
02:14:18.000 It came out February 27th, man.
02:14:21.000 And it did well.
02:14:23.000 People like it.
02:14:23.000 The streets like it.
02:14:25.000 The streets.
02:14:25.000 Yep.
02:14:26.000 The creeks.
02:14:27.000 The creeks.
02:14:27.000 The creeks and the streets like it.
02:14:31.000 I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because this is just a very strange thing that happened at the club the other night that almost doesn't make sense.
02:14:39.000 So we were in the green room.
02:14:41.000 I feel like I want to send you the link from my special.
02:14:44.000 Casey Rocket was on stage in the small room and Tony Hinchcliffe was on stage in the big room.
02:14:50.000 Now, the room, the shows had been going on for hours.
02:14:55.000 In the small room, it was the open mic.
02:14:58.000 So there might have been 20 people on before.
02:15:01.000 And in the big room, it started at a different time, and this was 45 minutes into the show.
02:15:08.000 So three comedians had gone up.
02:15:09.000 But somehow or another, the time synced perfectly.
02:15:13.000 Within the second.
02:15:14.000 So as the timer was going off, Bob Biggerstaff, he's the first person to notice it.
02:15:20.000 And he pointed it out to us.
02:15:21.000 So like, go back.
02:15:22.000 Right.
02:15:25.000 The computer rebelled.
02:15:27.000 Really?
02:15:28.000 Anyway.
02:15:29.000 So you had an eclipse of your rooms?
02:15:31.000 Yeah, it's like an eclipse.
02:15:32.000 This is like an eclipse.
02:15:33.000 The odds of this happening are so small.
02:15:36.000 One show started at 10 p.m.
02:15:39.000 or 8 p.m.
02:15:41.000 The other show started earlier than that and had like an open mic night.
02:15:47.000 So they'd have like 10 people had been up before.
02:15:49.000 And Casey Rockett is on stage, he's at 5 minutes and 24 seconds, and Tony's on stage in the other room, 5 minutes and 24 seconds.
02:15:56.000 And we were like, this is crazy.
02:15:58.000 Like, what are the odds of this happening?
02:16:01.000 Now that it happened, like, who would even notice that it happened?
02:16:04.000 Bob did.
02:16:05.000 If he didn't notice it.
02:16:07.000 It might have been lost in time.
02:16:09.000 Yeah, Tony fucking did it.
02:16:12.000 His fans are...
02:16:16.000 Yo, these motherfuckers, boy.
02:16:19.000 They're ruthless.
02:16:20.000 Going back to not reading the comments, I think the last time I did Kill Tony, it was probably like three or four years ago, right?
02:16:27.000 I'll be having a good comment day, Joe.
02:16:30.000 Oh, a good day.
02:16:31.000 Yeah, hey, I love you, I love you.
02:16:32.000 Then next thing, we'll ask him if he's going to walk out on Kill Tony's podcast again.
02:16:40.000 Yeah, well...
02:16:42.000 What do you do?
02:16:46.000 I want to go back.
02:16:47.000 Well, then go back.
02:16:48.000 I'm afraid.
02:16:49.000 Go back, but be ready.
02:16:53.000 Wait a minute.
02:16:53.000 First of all, I was ready.
02:16:55.000 But you still walked off.
02:16:58.000 That's what you believe, Joe?
02:16:59.000 Did you not walk off?
02:17:00.000 You didn't know the real story?
02:17:02.000 That's what you believe?
02:17:03.000 I don't know.
02:17:03.000 I don't know what happened.
02:17:03.000 That's all propaganda.
02:17:04.000 I had completely forgotten about it.
02:17:05.000 I'll tell you what happened.
02:17:06.000 I was here first of all.
02:17:08.000 Okay.
02:17:09.000 I did Tony's show during the pandemic.
02:17:12.000 Right.
02:17:12.000 When he couldn't get guests.
02:17:14.000 Right.
02:17:14.000 I risked my fucking life.
02:17:16.000 Risked your life.
02:17:17.000 For him.
02:17:18.000 Right.
02:17:18.000 And these punk ass motherfuckers.
02:17:20.000 Yes.
02:17:21.000 Good show.
02:17:23.000 Black comic goes up.
02:17:25.000 I'm up.
02:17:25.000 I've been here two and a half hours.
02:17:27.000 They just drink giving me Tito's and Tito's and Tito's.
02:17:30.000 They're forcing you to drink.
02:17:33.000 Whatever, I know that I consume Tito's and Tito's.
02:17:36.000 Then I had a date, a sushi date.
02:17:38.000 You know the sushi spot I'm talking about.
02:17:40.000 The one that, the private joint.
02:17:43.000 It looks like a speakeasy.
02:17:45.000 Six people.
02:17:46.000 I had a reservation for that.
02:17:49.000 So, I'm doing this show.
02:17:52.000 I told them I'm going to the bathroom because I was going to go eat.
02:17:56.000 And they made it look like I ran off the show, Joe.
02:17:59.000 Really?
02:18:00.000 You went for that bullshit edit.
02:18:03.000 You should sue.
02:18:06.000 It's not a bad idea.
02:18:09.000 But I like Tony.
02:18:11.000 I would like this for fucking pain and suffering.
02:18:15.000 Just take him to court.
02:18:16.000 And it's petty and I don't really give a fuck.
02:18:19.000 Then go back.
02:18:20.000 Yeah, I would love to.
02:18:21.000 As soon as my schedule allows it, I'll go back.
02:18:25.000 Why are you looking at me like I got a problem with going back?
02:18:28.000 No, I don't.
02:18:29.000 Okay, wait a minute.
02:18:31.000 Bathroom.
02:18:32.000 That is not a comedian.
02:18:34.000 Okay, go rewind it.
02:18:36.000 Now, this is what they did, Joe.
02:18:38.000 They showed me talking to the comedian.
02:18:41.000 Look, all right, watch this.
02:18:43.000 Is that me running off from a comedian?
02:18:46.000 That's like, I'll be right back.
02:18:47.000 Going to the bathroom.
02:18:50.000 Look.
02:18:51.000 Keep following it.
02:18:53.000 Walks off.
02:18:54.000 To the bathroom.
02:18:55.000 To the bathroom.
02:18:56.000 Right.
02:18:56.000 But what they showed...
02:18:58.000 Jamie, can you...
02:19:00.000 I'm glad we get to fucking put this out there.
02:19:02.000 Can you show the edit they did?
02:19:06.000 Just put Donnell walks off.
02:19:08.000 Donnell walks off in the edit.
02:19:10.000 Now watch what they do in the fucking edit.
02:19:12.000 Donnell walks off.
02:19:13.000 How many times have you watched this?
02:19:15.000 Only 4,000.
02:19:17.000 Why have you...
02:19:18.000 Not 4,000.
02:19:20.000 Why have you really spent...
02:19:22.000 I haven't spent no time.
02:19:22.000 I just remember it.
02:19:23.000 This is the first time I actually saw the original.
02:19:26.000 So they doctored it up.
02:19:28.000 The white man...
02:19:30.000 That seems...
02:19:31.000 I'm making it race.
02:19:32.000 The white man...
02:19:33.000 I don't feel like they should have done that.
02:19:34.000 They shouldn't have done it.
02:19:36.000 But your argument is about that.
02:19:38.000 You first thing, and it worked on you, because you said, yeah, that time you walked out just...
02:19:42.000 Can I call Tony right now?
02:19:43.000 Yeah, and the way you looked at me, the way you looked at me, he was like, what you gonna do about it?
02:19:47.000 Call Tony Hinchcliffe.
02:19:49.000 Oh, please.
02:19:50.000 Yeah, did you got that?
02:19:51.000 I know it's gotta come up.
02:19:52.000 The one I found, you're not even in the video yet.
02:19:55.000 Yeah, this is...
02:19:56.000 Yeah, tell him I'm still sensitive about it.
02:19:58.000 And I took him to eat fried chicken.
02:20:03.000 Tony Hinchcliffe?
02:20:07.000 Hey, dude, I'm here.
02:20:08.000 You're on the podcast right now.
02:20:10.000 I'm here with Donnell Rawlings.
02:20:11.000 And I'm still beefing, motherfucker.
02:20:12.000 Tell him the real story.
02:20:13.000 Tell him the real story.
02:20:15.000 Did you edit the show to make it look like Donnell was upset and that a man clowned him and he walked off the stage?
02:20:23.000 Can I say this?
02:20:23.000 A black man, did you edit it?
02:20:25.000 First off, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, you fucking full of shit, man.
02:20:29.000 Nothing was edited?
02:20:30.000 So, Tony, what you see is actually the true events that took place?
02:20:36.000 100%.
02:20:36.000 And he never, you know, I mean, it's absolutely not even in question.
02:20:42.000 Is Donnell trying to pull a PR move here?
02:20:45.000 This is the reason why black people have issues.
02:20:48.000 I mean, whatever he's doing, it's very shady, and he's trying to rewrite history.
02:20:51.000 Oh, all right.
02:20:52.000 Jamie, for me, for the sake of God, now he can't find it.
02:20:57.000 This is outrageous, Tony.
02:20:58.000 Now he can't find it.
02:20:58.000 I don't know what to think.
02:20:59.000 Now he can't find it.
02:21:12.000 Oh, Lord, Lord, Lord!
02:21:16.000 This is getting worse.
02:21:17.000 I can't believe this, man.
02:21:18.000 I can't believe you left out details only to use them as a weapon when confronted by propaganda.
02:21:25.000 Kudos to you, sir, for holding your cards.
02:21:26.000 No fucking kudos.
02:21:28.000 Tony supports black-on-black crime.
02:21:31.000 He pitted two black guys against each other.
02:21:33.000 Oh, wait a minute.
02:21:34.000 I thought you said that you went to the bathroom and none of that stuff happened.
02:21:37.000 They edited it.
02:21:38.000 I went to the bathroom.
02:21:39.000 He said that he was going to the bathroom.
02:21:42.000 He walked all the way out the front door.
02:21:44.000 Right!
02:21:44.000 To the sushi spot, son!
02:21:46.000 I left for sushi!
02:21:48.000 He said he left for sushi.
02:21:50.000 His reservations were much later than when Alright, now watch this.
02:21:55.000 Is this it?
02:21:56.000 Breaking news.
02:21:56.000 Donnell Rowling walks off.
02:21:58.000 Now watch the edit.
02:21:59.000 Mom and Dad G's on the same fucking stage.
02:22:01.000 Now watch.
02:22:02.000 I've invited Donnell back on.
02:22:05.000 Hold on.
02:22:06.000 Hold on a second.
02:22:07.000 We're watching the video of it right now.
02:22:09.000 I'm gonna say this.
02:22:10.000 I got something funny.
02:22:12.000 You look like Idris Elba fucked a blowfish.
02:22:16.000 This nigga shopped for tank tops in Victoria's Secret.
02:22:20.000 The Tito's kicking in right there.
02:22:24.000 He's the most successful crack baby.
02:22:27.000 I was over there thinking of jokes for this moment.
02:22:30.000 I know what he wanted to do.
02:22:32.000 Oh, yeah.
02:22:32.000 If I fucking roast Donnell.
02:22:34.000 No, man.
02:22:35.000 No, no, no, no.
02:22:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:22:37.000 Tito's.
02:22:38.000 I'm about to leave right now.
02:22:39.000 No, you're not.
02:22:40.000 No, I'm going to leave.
02:22:44.000 Look!
02:22:44.000 I wanna go!
02:22:46.000 Wrap it up!
02:22:51.000 Thank you, Tony.
02:22:54.000 Tony, thank you very much.
02:22:55.000 Thank you.
02:22:56.000 I see the truth now.
02:22:58.000 I see the truth.
02:22:59.000 Thank you.
02:22:59.000 Thank you.
02:23:01.000 Donnell.
02:23:02.000 Tony's a liar.
02:23:03.000 That was shameful.
02:23:06.000 I had to go to the bathroom.
02:23:07.000 I get it.
02:23:08.000 I had to go to the bathroom.
02:23:10.000 I get it.
02:23:10.000 What are you supposed to do?
02:23:10.000 Sit there?
02:23:11.000 Act like I'm in the woods?
02:23:12.000 Yeah, it's just you came to a gunfight with a rubber sword.
02:23:19.000 I didn't come to a gunfight.
02:23:20.000 I wasn't there for that joke.
02:23:21.000 I know.
02:23:21.000 You were there to host.
02:23:22.000 You didn't know you were going to get attacked ruthlessly.
02:23:24.000 That's what.
02:23:24.000 While you were drunk.
02:23:25.000 Yes.
02:23:26.000 Too drunk to defend yourself.
02:23:27.000 Too drunk.
02:23:28.000 That was right.
02:23:29.000 They're very abusive.
02:23:30.000 Very abusive.
02:23:31.000 To our friendship.
02:23:32.000 And I called Tony a friend.
02:23:34.000 To everything.
02:23:34.000 I don't think he realized it was going to happen, though, to be honest.
02:23:36.000 Like, no one plans anything on Kill Tommy.
02:23:37.000 And this is what I'm saying, black-on-black crime.
02:23:40.000 I was giving this black, African-American comedian some good advice on comedy, and then he just started shooting me.
02:23:48.000 Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
02:23:50.000 And I wasn't ready for that.
02:23:51.000 I was like, how could you do that to me?
02:23:53.000 And then all the white people started laughing.
02:23:56.000 Look at the black on black crime.
02:23:58.000 We don't got to do anything.
02:23:59.000 They're killing themselves.
02:24:02.000 R.I.P. George Floyd.
02:24:04.000 That's a very interesting way to put it.
02:24:06.000 That's exactly what my people saw, Joe.
02:24:09.000 And it was all in Tony and his crew.
02:24:13.000 Of henchmen.
02:24:14.000 Henchmen.
02:24:15.000 Set it up.
02:24:17.000 Interesting.
02:24:18.000 Henchmen.
02:24:19.000 Hinchcliffe.
02:24:20.000 Yes.
02:24:21.000 And he lied.
02:24:22.000 Just right now.
02:24:23.000 People are going to believe that.
02:24:24.000 He just lied.
02:24:25.000 It seems like he wasn't lying, though, because we watched the video.
02:24:29.000 I don't know what you saw, Joe.
02:24:30.000 What did you see?
02:24:31.000 I saw something totally different.
02:24:32.000 I saw a guy that had to go to the bathroom.
02:24:34.000 Okay.
02:24:35.000 Okay, we settled it.
02:24:37.000 We're in a world of editing.
02:24:38.000 I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the bathroom, and then I went to the bathroom, and then I did sushi.
02:24:42.000 I really don't care.
02:24:43.000 It's a new day.
02:24:44.000 I'm going to let it go.
02:24:45.000 Yeah, let's let it go.
02:24:46.000 Let's let it go.
02:24:46.000 Didn't go well.
02:24:47.000 Expected it to go.
02:24:49.000 But I appreciate the fact checking and I appreciate the research of the doctored clip you had, Jamie.
02:24:56.000 Thank you.
02:24:56.000 It is kind of rude, Jamie, that you did that to Donnell.
02:24:59.000 I thought that's the one he wanted me to find.
02:25:00.000 I mean, you could have put up any clip, but you chose to go with the CGI, AI, Dr. Tony Hinchcliffe henchman version.
02:25:07.000 Yep.
02:25:08.000 That's it, but long as...
02:25:10.000 How many fucking times have you done Kill Tony?
02:25:13.000 Three times.
02:25:14.000 That's it?
02:25:14.000 Yep.
02:25:14.000 Really?
02:25:15.000 Yeah, I did it in L.A. Maybe two.
02:25:18.000 I did it in L.A. I had a lot of fun.
02:25:19.000 David Lucas was on that one.
02:25:21.000 We had a good time.
02:25:22.000 I caught a standing ovation on that joint.
02:25:23.000 Nice.
02:25:24.000 I did that one, then I did the one here.
02:25:26.000 When David Lucas and Tony tear each other apart, it's the hardest I ever laughed.
02:25:29.000 Yeah?
02:25:30.000 David goes after Tony so hard, and Tony goes after David.
02:25:33.000 And they're both laughing really hard at each other, getting clowned.
02:25:36.000 It's really fun.
02:25:37.000 And then when me and David went at it, it was an example of Jonan because everybody was like, oh, you didn't let him talk.
02:25:43.000 I'm like, when I came up with Roast and whatever you call it, you don't let nobody talk.
02:25:48.000 You just go into that person, either run out of breath or run out of jokes.
02:25:52.000 It wasn't like, and now it's your turn.
02:25:54.000 You get three seconds.
02:25:55.000 Right.
02:25:55.000 It's not slap fighting.
02:25:56.000 I'm not a big fan of it.
02:25:57.000 I don't like Roast.
02:25:59.000 I might have been invited to like, or agreed to do like three roasts in my entire career.
02:26:05.000 I think they're too personal.
02:26:06.000 Yeah.
02:26:07.000 I think it's, I mean, it's funny to some people, but I think it's just too personal.
02:26:13.000 It's too, too, too easy just to be disrespectful.
02:26:17.000 Oh, just a joke.
02:26:18.000 You meant that shit and it hurts.
02:26:19.000 Yeah.
02:26:19.000 It's a license to be mean.
02:26:22.000 Yeah.
02:26:22.000 I don't like it.
02:26:23.000 I did Whitney's.
02:26:24.000 I did Whitney's.
02:26:25.000 Whitney called me.
02:26:26.000 I said, I don't like the roast.
02:26:27.000 Right.
02:26:28.000 I'm not, I don't do that thing.
02:26:29.000 And then she told me how much I was gonna pay.
02:26:31.000 I said, so I need to be there at five, right?
02:26:34.000 We coming off the pandemic.
02:26:35.000 Wasn't nobody making money.
02:26:36.000 I did it with her.
02:26:37.000 Isn't it wild they did it on OnlyFans?
02:26:39.000 Like, OnlyFans has had comedy specials.
02:26:41.000 I know, but it was dope.
02:26:42.000 I really think...
02:26:43.000 I really saw her as a producer.
02:26:46.000 Doing that and being able to put people together and like she was really really serious about Making it look good get the right people involved.
02:26:54.000 It was fun.
02:26:55.000 Yeah She's great at all kinds of stuff.
02:26:57.000 She's always juggling things.
02:26:58.000 I remember I was talking to her She was in the middle of writing a script right and she's like I'm gonna put the script aside for a bit because I'm doing this documentary on violence.
02:27:07.000 I'm like what?
02:27:08.000 Oh, yeah, what?
02:27:09.000 Oh, yeah, did I tell you I'm having a baby next week?
02:27:12.000 Oh, I'm having a baby Nine months pregnant, apparently.
02:27:15.000 Yeah, out of nowhere.
02:27:16.000 Picture that.
02:27:17.000 Who would have known?
02:27:18.000 She's a maniac.
02:27:19.000 Yeah, but it was fun.
02:27:20.000 It was fun.
02:27:21.000 I did it with her.
02:27:22.000 I did it with Bert Kreischer, Jim Norton.
02:27:23.000 It was some funny guys.
02:27:24.000 And we had to roast without having to be too mean.
02:27:27.000 That's cool.
02:27:27.000 It was cool.
02:27:28.000 I had a good time.
02:27:30.000 I'll send you the link for my special you can check out.
02:27:33.000 No, I'll watch it.
02:27:33.000 I'll just watch it on Netflix.
02:27:34.000 You're not going to watch it.
02:27:35.000 I will.
02:27:35.000 You're not going to watch it.
02:27:35.000 There's a few that I need to watch.
02:27:37.000 I still haven't watched Shane's.
02:27:38.000 I didn't watch Dave's last one.
02:27:41.000 I don't watch too much to end up other than live.
02:27:44.000 I try to balance the amount of entertainment I get in general.
02:27:48.000 I know.
02:27:48.000 I didn't really expect you to watch it.
02:27:50.000 I will watch it.
02:27:50.000 Jesus Christ, I'm going to watch it.
02:27:52.000 You don't have to watch it, Joe.
02:27:54.000 I feel like I have to watch it.
02:27:55.000 You don't have to watch it, Joe.
02:27:56.000 Jamie, don't you feel like I have to watch it?
02:27:58.000 I'm watching it.
02:28:00.000 Jamie's watching it right now.
02:28:02.000 I like the intro.
02:28:03.000 Out of everything, the thing I like the most, the intro.
02:28:06.000 Yeah?
02:28:06.000 It's good.
02:28:07.000 You gotta watch it.
02:28:08.000 I'll watch it.
02:28:08.000 But you don't have to, but watch it.
02:28:11.000 Because you were like, when is the special coming out?
02:28:13.000 Probably watch it.
02:28:14.000 All right.
02:28:15.000 It was fun.
02:28:16.000 Okay.
02:28:16.000 But the thing is, one thing about a special, and you've done a lot of them, a special thing about them is like, all right, what's next?
02:28:23.000 It forces you to have to start over.
02:28:25.000 Yeah.
02:28:26.000 And there's a lot of people.
02:28:27.000 People understand the pressure, I feel, of a special, because people always say, well, this is what people say.
02:28:33.000 It happened to me last week.
02:28:35.000 I did a show.
02:28:36.000 Somebody said, I liked the show I just saw more than I liked the special.
02:28:42.000 I don't know if people understand.
02:28:44.000 The funniest you're probably going to see a comedian is right before he shoots a special and right after the special.
02:28:51.000 Also, just live is always funnier.
02:28:54.000 Live is always funnier.
02:28:55.000 It's way funnier.
02:28:56.000 I always say that if you see a really good special, a really good special is like 60% to maybe 70% as funny as it is if you were in the place while it's happening.
02:29:05.000 Probably like 60%.
02:29:06.000 And that's the hardest thing to capture It's that feeling like...
02:29:11.000 You can't capture it.
02:29:13.000 With this special for me, first time I was telling you earlier, first time I did it, he can't do it because of the COVID stuff.
02:29:18.000 The second time, we were in Napa Valley.
02:29:22.000 We were doing some shows there, and you know, Chappelle records all of his shows.
02:29:26.000 Probably you do the same thing.
02:29:28.000 So he asked the producer, Ricky Hughes, he said, how many cameras do we have here today?
02:29:33.000 She said, we got five.
02:29:34.000 He looks at me and says, do you want to shoot your special?
02:29:38.000 I'm like, when?
02:29:38.000 He said, tomorrow.
02:29:39.000 I'm like, who the fuck says...
02:29:41.000 Right.
02:29:42.000 But I got excited because I was like, I like the idea of it not being a spectacle.
02:29:45.000 Right.
02:29:46.000 I like the idea of nobody knowing about it.
02:29:48.000 Right.
02:29:48.000 It was only three people that knew we were even going to go for it.
02:29:52.000 Right.
02:29:53.000 Everything else was like a regular show.
02:29:55.000 I was like, oh, you know what?
02:29:56.000 This would be so dope.
02:29:57.000 No pressure.
02:29:58.000 Yeah.
02:29:59.000 Shot it.
02:30:00.000 Killed it, Joe.
02:30:01.000 I was doing a regular thing.
02:30:03.000 I wasn't thinking about special, just a regular show.
02:30:05.000 Killed it.
02:30:06.000 I'm like, oh shit, I called Robbie Pratt.
02:30:07.000 I'm like, yo, we got the special!
02:30:09.000 He's like, let me see it.
02:30:10.000 You've been saying that, right?
02:30:12.000 Three weeks later, Dave calls me again.
02:30:15.000 I want to shoot the special over.
02:30:17.000 I'm like, why?
02:30:18.000 He said, I didn't like the production.
02:30:20.000 I'm like, motherfucker, you're the producer.
02:30:22.000 He was like, yeah, but it was a really small thing.
02:30:26.000 He was like, delighting.
02:30:28.000 And then it was people walking past, you know, doing the show.
02:30:31.000 And I was like, well, you remember live at Sunset Strip, Richard Pryor, one of the funniest lines you remember when he was like, look, white people left.
02:30:37.000 They came back.
02:30:38.000 Their seat's gone.
02:30:39.000 It was in the moment.
02:30:40.000 It was live.
02:30:41.000 It felt live.
02:30:41.000 That's where I thought that felt live.
02:30:44.000 He was like, down there, we'll put it out.
02:30:46.000 But I'm telling you, if we're going to do it, we scratched the second one.
02:30:51.000 Cut to the third one.
02:30:54.000 And I think out of all the criticism and everything he said leading up to his reasons why he wanted to do it again, I think that I caught it.
02:31:04.000 And people's like, do you think that was your best?
02:31:06.000 In that moment, that night, it was the best I could be that night.
02:31:11.000 Beautiful.
02:31:12.000 You know what I mean?
02:31:12.000 Like, you know, we'll do shit.
02:31:14.000 You say, I'm not doing that joke before.
02:31:17.000 You know you've performed these jokes better, but can you capture it in that moment of that night?
02:31:22.000 And I think I caught a good vibe.
02:31:25.000 Beautiful.
02:31:26.000 Donnell, I love you.
02:31:27.000 You're not going to watch it.
02:31:29.000 I love you.
02:31:31.000 I have to take a leak, and we've got to end this.
02:31:32.000 We've got to wrap this up.
02:31:33.000 No problem.
02:31:33.000 Thank you very much.
02:31:34.000 Tell everybody the name of it.
02:31:35.000 It's a new day on Netflix.
02:31:37.000 There it is.
02:31:38.000 It's a new day.
02:31:39.000 That's another sharp suit.
02:31:40.000 I got two suits for two different situations.
02:31:42.000 The yellow in the pocket.
02:31:44.000 I like it.
02:31:45.000 What's the button say?
02:31:46.000 DR. It's my logo.
02:31:47.000 Oh, nice.
02:31:49.000 Yep.
02:31:50.000 Proud of that.
02:31:50.000 Finally got it done.
02:31:51.000 Beautiful.
02:31:51.000 Thank you.
02:31:52.000 Thank you, brother.
02:31:52.000 All right.
02:31:53.000 Bye, everybody.