The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2132 - Andrew Schulz

00:00:12.000 That CIA guy on with the hair yeah, and So after the pod I guess we're up.

00:00:24.000 Let's go.

00:00:24.000 You want to go?

00:00:25.000 We're rolling.

00:00:25.000 Let's do it.

00:00:26.000 Let's go.

00:00:26.000 Okay.

00:00:26.000 So, he came on, and he was very, like, forthcoming.

00:00:31.000 First of all, he's very charming, but, like, when you're talking to anybody who's worked for the CIA, you're looking at him through the same lens as you look at, like, a therapist.

00:00:38.000 Right.

00:00:38.000 Where it's like, wait, are you analyzing?

00:00:40.000 Like, what's going on?

00:00:40.000 What's going on here?

00:00:42.000 Very charming, very smart, very, like, seems to really know what's going on in the world.

00:00:46.000 But, like, straight up told us.

00:00:48.000 He's like, yeah, you know, I guess one of the advantages I have is, like, I'm pretty close to a sociopath.

00:00:54.000 Like, I'm not there.

00:00:54.000 But, like, I don't feel the same emotions that everybody feels.

00:00:59.000 There's, like, a lack of guilt.

00:01:00.000 But I know when I should feel it in these moments.

00:01:03.000 Whoa.

00:01:03.000 But that's a huge advantage.

00:01:04.000 Imagine if you're trying to, like, find assets and flip assets.

00:01:07.000 Yeah.

00:01:08.000 If you and I, like, build a relationship with somebody and we, like, feel empathy for them.

00:01:12.000 Right.

00:01:13.000 Maybe we wouldn't be able to say, hey, now it's time for you to cough up the information or else.

00:01:17.000 Right.

00:01:18.000 But somebody else in that position might. 0.98

00:01:20.000 So I would imagine if you were the fucking CIA, you're like, okay, we're looking for people who have gone through these things in their life that have curated this kind of like personality type. 0.97

00:01:29.000 Well, isn't it just like part of the gig? 0.98

00:01:33.000 Like here's for instance, like your bit about Puffy.

00:01:38.000 Right. 0.99

00:01:40.000 How you're going to connect these two fucking dots? 0.98

00:01:43.000 That bit is like, look, you don't have any real personal beef with Diddy, but it's got to go down. 0.97

00:01:52.000 The bits are there.

00:01:54.000 I'm a gold miner.

00:01:55.000 I just found some gold.

00:01:56.000 You're right.

00:01:57.000 Maybe I'm a sociopath.

00:01:58.000 It's not that you're a sociopath, it's just that that's part of the gig. 0.87

00:02:02.000 Yes.

00:02:02.000 Like, you're not a sociopath with your friends.

00:02:04.000 No, I think I'm maybe an empath.

00:02:07.000 Yes.

00:02:07.000 But I guess it's one of those things where, like, you justify, you go, okay, I think this person might have done something bad.

00:02:14.000 Yes.

00:02:14.000 And he can get jokes, and we're all gonna tell jokes.

00:02:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:02:18.000 I'm not pressing fucking charges. 0.99

00:02:19.000 Well, not only that, you're not the guy who's out there like calling the New York Times, hey, you know what I heard about Diddy? 0.99

00:02:24.000 By the way, yeah.

00:02:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:26.000 You're just like, it's there.

00:02:28.000 I mean, it's not just there.

00:02:30.000 It's everywhere. 0.99

00:02:31.000 My fucking news feed is dominated by it. 1.00

00:02:33.000 Yes. 1.00

00:02:34.000 Fox News, CNN, everyone.

00:02:37.000 There's raids at Diddy's house.

00:02:39.000 Who was the guy that was running around with a sports bra on? 0.97

00:02:42.000 Did you see that one dude?

00:02:43.000 No, this is in LA. Oh my god, I gotta send you this.

00:02:47.000 Wait, while the raids are happening?

00:02:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:48.000 He got caught up in the raid and he was yelling, I'm a celebrity!

00:02:51.000 I'm a celebrity!

00:02:52.000 It was like one of the most hilarious clips.

00:02:56.000 Hold on, I'm gonna find you this.

00:02:57.000 It's so funny.

00:03:00.000 Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?

00:03:01.000 Nope.

00:03:02.000 But you bring up a good point, which is like, are there ever situations where you feel you won't...

00:03:08.000 Wait till you see this.

00:03:15.000 He's wearing what appears to be a black sports bra.

00:03:20.000 Hold on, we're gonna play it.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, put your headphones on so you can hear it.

00:03:31.000 Saucy Santana.

00:03:33.000 Oh! 0.60

00:03:34.000 Saucy! 0.99

00:03:34.000 Look at this. 0.99

00:03:36.000 Wearing what appears to be a black sports bra, red tights, and the performer's signature trimmed beard and long eyelashes.

00:03:45.000 Yeah, this is...

00:03:46.000 Joe, this is Saucy Santana.

00:03:48.000 Look at him, look at him, look at him.

00:03:50.000 Oh, wow.

00:03:50.000 Saliva on the beard is crazy.

00:03:52.000 Saliva on the beard.

00:03:53.000 He definitely came from a Diddy party.

00:03:54.000 Yeah.

00:03:55.000 Well, he was at Diddy's house.

00:03:56.000 I bet he was.

00:03:57.000 So, I guess Diddy just kept people at his houses.

00:04:00.000 Because he's got multiple houses and he's just had freak out parties.

00:04:03.000 Look at him.

00:04:04.000 Look at Saucy Santana go! 1.00

00:04:06.000 Go Saucy! 1.00

00:04:06.000 No, Saucy's crazy. 1.00

00:04:07.000 Have you seen Saucy twerk?

00:04:08.000 I didn't even know Saucy existed until I saw that video. 0.99

00:04:11.000 Oh, Saucy can throw it down. 1.00

00:04:13.000 This is Booty by Saucy Tanatana.

00:04:16.000 Oh, Jesus, Saucy. 1.00

00:04:18.000 Give me some of this.

00:04:20.000 I don't even know if it's Diddy's artist, but Saucy's like a popular figure in music.

00:04:24.000 They're staying at his house.

00:04:27.000 No, Diddy's in a tricky situation.

00:04:29.000 Boy, that's the understatement of the year.

00:04:31.000 Yeah, I think it's over.

00:04:33.000 You think it's over?

00:04:34.000 I think it's over for him as like a figure in entertainment.

00:04:38.000 Right.

00:04:38.000 But do you think it's over for him as far as he gets a cell right next to R. Kelly?

00:04:43.000 I don't think so.

00:04:43.000 I don't think he gets locked up.

00:04:44.000 I think he skates.

00:04:45.000 I think he skates.

00:04:46.000 Or he goes to Bali.

00:04:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:50.000 That's a move, huh?

00:04:51.000 I mean, Russell's out there.

00:04:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:53.000 Has he been formally charged, or does he just know that the shit is out there? 1.00

00:04:57.000 I think there's just so much shit out there. 1.00

00:04:59.000 I think those rappers did some wild shit. 1.00

00:05:02.000 Especially in the 90s? 1.00

00:05:04.000 The music business.

00:05:05.000 It's not just the music business.

00:05:08.000 It's the extortion business.

00:05:12.000 Yeah, I mean, the rap game was crazy.

00:05:14.000 That's a thing a lot of people don't realize.

00:05:16.000 It's like...

00:05:17.000 Back in the day, especially like early rap game, you weren't just going to play at, you know, what's the random theater that you would play in LA? What's like a big theater?

00:05:25.000 I'm trying to think.

00:05:26.000 The Orpheum or something like that.

00:05:27.000 Wiltern.

00:05:28.000 Wiltern.

00:05:29.000 Some guys were explaining to me, he was like, you would play at the local hood club.

00:05:33.000 There was like a hood club that you could perform at.

00:05:36.000 And then that was owned by the local drug dealer that was washing money there.

00:05:40.000 Right.

00:05:41.000 So this is where the idea of like checking in comes from.

00:05:43.000 Have you heard of this term?

00:05:44.000 Yes.

00:05:45.000 Checking in was basically like, hey, I want to make sure we're good because you're going to pay me. 0.95

00:05:50.000 And if I don't check in, you might rob me because you're putting me up at the hotel and you know everything that's going on and you're a drug dealer.

00:05:58.000 So you don't play by the rules.

00:05:59.000 Right.

00:05:59.000 When you come to Houston...

00:06:01.000 You're checking in with certain people.

00:06:02.000 Mr. Prince!

00:06:03.000 Yes, sir.

00:06:04.000 Mr. Prince!

00:06:05.000 Yeah.

00:06:05.000 You don't gotta check in, Joe.

00:06:06.000 You gotta check in, say hi.

00:06:08.000 Joe don't gotta check in.

00:06:08.000 I'm not in that business.

00:06:10.000 I say hi.

00:06:12.000 You've had him on here, right?

00:06:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:14.000 He's a legend in the game.

00:06:15.000 He's a legend.

00:06:16.000 Out of respect, I say hi.

00:06:17.000 There you go.

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:18.000 There you go.

00:06:19.000 So what is like...

00:06:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:20.000 How does a guy like him...

00:06:22.000 Like, I'm trying to think.

00:06:24.000 Like, how do you...

00:06:24.000 How do you navigate that to the point where people have this, like, respect and fear because of what they assume you've done in the street world.

00:06:33.000 Right.

00:06:34.000 But you're also operating legitimately...

00:06:37.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 And nobody can get you.

00:06:41.000 They try.

00:06:42.000 They try.

00:06:42.000 Boy, they try with him many times.

00:06:44.000 And do you think they just give up?

00:06:46.000 I don't think they have anything.

00:06:49.000 If they had something, they would have brought it.

00:06:51.000 You know, if they have something on a guy like that, they try to get him.

00:06:54.000 But he's clever.

00:06:56.000 He's playing many levels.

00:07:00.000 He's like one of those dudes, you ever see a chess tournament where a guy walks in and there's ten different players and he just walks and goes to each move?

00:07:07.000 And goes to the next board and makes a move, goes to the next board, makes a move, then he beats everybody.

00:07:11.000 Yeah.

00:07:12.000 So where does a guy like that learn that?

00:07:14.000 That's what I'm trying to understand.

00:07:15.000 Streets.

00:07:16.000 Streets.

00:07:16.000 Yeah.

00:07:17.000 He learns that.

00:07:18.000 I mean, it's all about keeping people close.

00:07:20.000 Yeah.

00:07:21.000 Respect.

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:22.000 Giving respect.

00:07:23.000 Getting respect.

00:07:24.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 Making sure that you cover all your statements.

00:07:28.000 Yeah, like if you say something, you have to make sure you do it.

00:07:31.000 You cover it, yeah.

00:07:32.000 100% of the time.

00:07:33.000 And there's probably times in his life where he's went, like if it's poker, he probably went all in a few times.

00:07:38.000 Not in terms of money, but like this decision makes or breaks me.

00:07:41.000 Yeah.

00:07:41.000 I wonder how many make or break moments he's had.

00:07:45.000 Well, it depends on what's actually true and what's not true in terms of accusations.

00:07:51.000 If some of the accusations are true, that kind of covers things.

00:07:56.000 When folks vanish.

00:08:00.000 When someone does abracadabra, folks vanish.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, that's effective.

00:08:06.000 Fear is effective, man.

00:08:08.000 Oh, 100%.

00:08:09.000 And it should be. 0.99

00:08:11.000 Because, listen, all the shit that's going on right now in the world, In America, we get so soft and we think none of that shit's going to happen here. 0.99

00:08:20.000 All that murder, war, drones, assassinations, that's not going to happen here. 1.00

00:08:27.000 Unless you know the Clintons.

00:08:28.000 Yes. 1.00

00:08:29.000 Unless you know some shit. 1.00

00:08:30.000 Yes. 1.00

00:08:31.000 Unless you know some shit about old Bill. 1.00

00:08:33.000 And then you wind up shooting yourself in the chest while hanging from an extension cord. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Wait, did that happen?

00:08:38.000 Oh yeah, you don't know that guy? 0.53

00:08:39.000 Shot himself in the chest.

00:08:41.000 Joe, that seems really hard to do. 0.97

00:08:42.000 With a shotgun.

00:08:43.000 Yeah, how do you do such a thing?

00:08:45.000 While you're hanging.

00:08:46.000 This is a guy that brought Epstein to the White House at least seven times.

00:08:53.000 What's his name?

00:08:55.000 We'll find out.

00:08:56.000 So they found him at a ranch 30 minutes from his house, hanging by an electrical cord from a tree with a shotgun wound to the chest.

00:09:05.000 Shotgun discovered near the body a former Clinton aide, Mark Middleton, and then they called it a suicide.

00:09:13.000 12-gauge shotgun was 30 feet from the body of Mark Middleton was he found dead.

00:09:17.000 Okay, so who orchestrates this?

00:09:21.000 Is this the same thing where does Clinton go, hey, this guy needs to go, or do the powers that be around a powerful person go, we already know what needs to happen?

00:09:34.000 Well, I think they know if a dude is in contact with someone or has been talking or is about to talk.

00:09:42.000 Meaning cooperating with the feds or something.

00:09:44.000 I don't think any of those guys have clean phones.

00:09:47.000 I don't think any of those guys don't have their houses bugged.

00:09:50.000 I don't think any of those guys aren't tracked.

00:09:52.000 Look at how excited that guy is in the back.

00:09:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:54.000 If you're a guy that brought Jeffrey Epstein to the fucking White House to see Bill Clinton seven times and all this... 0.99

00:10:03.000 Epstein shit is going down and Ghislaine's in jail and you have information. 0.99

00:10:07.000 There's people on both sides, right? 0.99

00:10:10.000 There's the people on the right that are trying to nail the people that are on the left with this.

00:10:14.000 There's people that are journalists that are trying to nail the people that are involved in this. 0.93

00:10:18.000 And they've managed to keep that fucking list from coming out, which shows you how powerful certain people are. 0.96

00:10:24.000 That should show you a lot. 0.99

00:10:26.000 That should be terrifying.

00:10:27.000 The fact that Ghislaine Maxwell's in prison. 1.00

00:10:30.000 She's in prison for sex trafficking, yet no one's been accused of buying any of that pussy. 1.00

00:10:36.000 No one's been accused of having sex with these underage girls that she is in jail for supplying. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Yeah, that is crazy. 0.89

00:10:44.000 That's crazy.

00:10:45.000 If you own a store and there's no items left yet, nobody's purchased anything.

00:10:48.000 Something's going on.

00:10:49.000 Something's going on.

00:10:50.000 Yeah.

00:10:51.000 So I guess what I'm trying to figure out is like...

00:10:54.000 People can go away.

00:10:55.000 I mean, that's what people were saying.

00:10:57.000 And maybe, you know, everybody's a conspiracy theorist now, but that's what people are saying about the Diddy situation. 0.98

00:11:01.000 Like, when the feds rolled up, you know, with the fucking Hummers and shit, they're like, it wasn't about Diddy. 0.94

00:11:09.000 It was about if there were tapes of powerful people there. 0.99

00:11:13.000 Yeah.

00:11:13.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:11:14.000 They were the ones that called.

00:11:15.000 They're like, I need to protect myself, so go in there with all the things and rip any tapes or any evidence.

00:11:20.000 Prince Harry was hanging with Diddy.

00:11:23.000 I mean, everybody hung with Diddy.

00:11:24.000 That's the other tricky thing.

00:11:25.000 Like, Diddy hung out with everybody.

00:11:26.000 And I've spoken to a bunch of people who are like, yo, great dude.

00:11:29.000 Like, always there for you.

00:11:30.000 Never ask for a single thing.

00:11:32.000 Till one in the morning.

00:11:33.000 And then the freak off begins.

00:11:35.000 Everybody says, get out of the house.

00:11:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:38.000 It's like the gremlins start eating after midnight.

00:11:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

00:11:45.000 Everybody who tells the story is like, I saw go upstairs and these dudes are fucking, like right on the couch. 0.99

00:11:50.000 And then I go in this room and these guys are fucking. 0.99

00:11:53.000 And pros. 1.00

00:11:54.000 Like, apparently he was getting male gigolos to fuck girls. 1.00

00:11:59.000 To fuck girls? 1.00

00:12:01.000 Yeah, that was one of the rumors. 1.00

00:12:03.000 Male gigolos? 1.00

00:12:03.000 So he would hire the professional dicks to have sex with the girls. 1.00

00:12:07.000 And I think he would watch, allegedly. 1.00

00:12:09.000 That's what was alleged, I think.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on.

00:12:14.000 And that's the other thing, I wonder, is that just a power thing?

00:12:17.000 It's a Caligula thing. 0.97

00:12:19.000 What does that mean?

00:12:20.000 Caligula, like the Emperor.

00:12:21.000 Did you ever see that movie, Caligula?

00:12:23.000 No.

00:12:23.000 It's about just Roman empires being completely out of control.

00:12:27.000 Caligula is almost like porn, and it was a movie made, I want to say in the 70s. 0.57

00:12:33.000 It's a crazy movie.

00:12:34.000 But it's just detailing extreme excess where you can never fill the hole.

00:12:41.000 But what is the hole you need to fill?

00:12:42.000 Like, I'm trying to find, like, what's the catalyst?

00:12:44.000 Just chaos.

00:12:44.000 What year was this?

00:12:45.000 79. 79, yeah.

00:12:50.000 That's Malcolm McDowell, right?

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:12:55.000 Yeah, the dude from Clockwork Orange.

00:12:58.000 It's a crazy movie, man.

00:13:00.000 It's still mild in comparison to what Absolute have.

00:13:04.000 Absolute power corrupts Caligula.

00:13:06.000 Okay, so then there's the question.

00:13:07.000 It's like, can you take a completely normal person, give them power, and then they become that?

00:13:11.000 Or does it take a power-hungry person that has this void that they need to be filled, that needs to be filled, and then when they are given that power, you see the worst version of them?

00:13:20.000 Ask your CIA boy.

00:13:21.000 I bet he's got the answers.

00:13:22.000 I bet he knows the exact formula.

00:13:24.000 To corrupting somebody or to...

00:13:26.000 What happens?

00:13:27.000 Like, what happens to these people? 0.99

00:13:28.000 Have you ever met somebody in our business that, like, before they were popping, they were kind of a dick, and then once they became very successful, they were the biggest dick? 0.99

00:13:38.000 And you're like, you were always going to be this way. 0.99

00:13:40.000 You just didn't have the power to project it on people. 0.99

00:13:43.000 I don't know too many people in our business that are really successful, like your level or my level, that are dicks. 0.99

00:13:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:13:52.000 Yeah.

00:13:52.000 Well, let me think about that.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:56.000 Yeah.

00:13:57.000 Yeah, there are people maybe that feel they should be at a higher level and are not.

00:14:01.000 They feel that they can kind of boss people around or throw their weight around to their assistant or their agents.

00:14:07.000 Maybe they yell when they shouldn't yell or don't have to yell or are demeaning to certain people.

00:14:13.000 That bothers me, though.

00:14:14.000 Oh, I hate it.

00:14:15.000 I don't like it at all.

00:14:16.000 Especially when you're demeaning to the people that can't...

00:14:19.000 Yeah.

00:14:19.000 Can't really do anything.

00:14:20.000 They could quit, of course, but this is their opportunity.

00:14:22.000 Right.

00:14:23.000 And then they feel terrible, and for no reason.

00:14:25.000 The same exact situation could be handled with a hug.

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 You could tell them you appreciate them, you hold their hand, you shake their hand, you give them a hug, and then everybody feels good.

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Yeah, that should be what the goal is.

00:14:37.000 Like, you're the guy who is in this very unique, unusual situation, and you have the ability to make everybody feel better.

00:14:44.000 Yeah.

00:14:45.000 Except until you don't.

00:14:46.000 Until there's some people that you just gotta get rid of.

00:14:48.000 There's some people that just feel entitled, and they don't feel it.

00:14:51.000 There's certain things that do happen around certain successful people.

00:14:55.000 You'll see they have a few people that have resentment that are around them, that realize, like, oh, I'm a support person, and I only have so much room that I can climb.

00:15:04.000 I can never be Andrew Schultz.

00:15:06.000 I'm always going to be this guy who works with Andrew Schultz.

00:15:11.000 I've had a few buddies that have opening acts that wind up getting very entitled, and they have real problems with them.

00:15:18.000 The opening acts get resentful, and there becomes issues.

00:15:22.000 Even good guys, they get rid of them.

00:15:25.000 You have to.

00:15:26.000 Yeah, you gotta get rid of them.

00:15:26.000 Because you can't be around someone who resents your success.

00:15:28.000 I just had a friend who just led me through all the shit that his opening act was doing. 0.94

00:15:33.000 But I have known several guys that have had that. 0.98

00:15:36.000 Once things start popping, those guys feel like, hey, you know, I'm a big deal.

00:15:41.000 You could be replaced with another guy who does 15 minutes.

00:15:45.000 This is crazy.

00:15:46.000 You have an amazing opportunity.

00:15:47.000 You get a chance to perform in front of these thousands of people that you would never be able to perform in front of.

00:15:52.000 And you light it up.

00:15:53.000 You can move up the ladder.

00:15:54.000 And then one day that could be you.

00:15:56.000 And they could be coming to see you.

00:15:57.000 And we've all seen that.

00:15:58.000 And you never want to have to manage somebody like that.

00:16:00.000 You want to have people around you that are excited by the opportunity.

00:16:03.000 And everybody's part of the team. 0.98

00:16:04.000 And we're doing this fucking unbelievable thing. 0.97

00:16:07.000 And yeah, I guess I feel lucky I have those guys. 0.94

00:16:10.000 Yeah, you've cultured a good group of humans, and then they have gratitude, and we all have gratitude.

00:16:16.000 Everybody has gratitude.

00:16:17.000 That's the key. 1.00

00:16:19.000 But some people, they're nuts. 1.00

00:16:21.000 Some people are just crazy, which is why they're in show business in the first place. 1.00

00:16:24.000 And they have a distorted perception of reality, and they're not good at being objective, they're not good at seeing the big picture. 1.00

00:16:31.000 You know, those fucking people are gonna be a real problem if they're in your circle. 1.00

00:16:34.000 And if they're smart. 1.00

00:16:36.000 The problem is, like, when you take one of those people who's intelligent, they can, like, rationalize and justify all the behaviors.

00:16:42.000 That's the trickiest thing.

00:16:43.000 Like, how do you...

00:16:44.000 Have you been in that situation where, like, you're trying to talk them out of a behavior that they have?

00:16:51.000 And you're just like, this might not be the most rational way to operate.

00:16:56.000 It's not really...

00:16:57.000 It's like at a certain point in time, you have to...

00:17:00.000 Yeah, I guess you've got to kind of let them do their thing.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, I don't know what you can do to cure them of it.

00:17:08.000 I don't know if you can tell them, hey, this is what you're doing. 0.99

00:17:11.000 They're like, fuck, what am I doing? 0.99

00:17:13.000 Oh, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:17:14.000 I'm going to get my shit together.

00:17:16.000 Do we have confirmation? 0.95

00:17:18.000 Yes.

00:17:18.000 And we're good to go?

00:17:20.000 Yeah, hold on.

00:17:21.000 Okay.

00:17:22.000 Okay.

00:17:24.000 Light it up, Joe.

00:17:31.000 Yeah.

00:17:31.000 We're going back and forth right now.

00:17:33.000 Is he comfy or not comfy?

00:17:35.000 Yeah.

00:17:35.000 Green light.

00:17:36.000 Oh, really?

00:17:37.000 Okay.

00:17:38.000 All right. 0.54

00:17:39.000 I think there's a lot of psychos in the world.

00:17:44.000 And I think that this is a thing.

00:17:47.000 It's like there's a certain amount of people that really don't care about other people.

00:17:52.000 They exist.

00:17:54.000 I guess the term is sociopath, right?

00:17:56.000 I think sociopath just means that you don't feel like the guilt that a normal person would feel when you make somebody feel uncomfortable.

00:18:05.000 Or they could potentially be in that uncomfortable situation.

00:18:07.000 That reaction is just not elicited in you.

00:18:10.000 And therefore, you can maybe ask them to do things that would put them in a really uncomfortable situation.

00:18:16.000 Like, for example, you have a podcast, right?

00:18:17.000 You asked somebody to come on.

00:18:18.000 There might be a really embarrassing, tough question that you might want to ask them.

00:18:24.000 Maybe that's why you brought them on.

00:18:25.000 Or they're a really close friend of yours and you're just like, I don't know if I want to put them in this situation in front of all these people.

00:18:31.000 Dude, I do that all the time.

00:18:32.000 You don't ask.

00:18:33.000 I don't ask all the time.

00:18:34.000 Exactly, because you have empathy.

00:18:35.000 You care about how they're perceived.

00:18:36.000 Not just that.

00:18:36.000 I don't need to talk to someone about something controversial.

00:18:39.000 If they want to talk about it, like if it's something they want to get off their chest or they want to discuss because there's some misconceptions out there, I'm happy to give you that platform.

00:18:49.000 But like, play got you with you?

00:18:51.000 I am not that guy at all. 1.00

00:18:53.000 I don't want to have anything to do with that shit. 1.00

00:18:55.000 I don't like it. 1.00

00:18:56.000 I don't think it's necessary.

00:18:57.000 It feels gross.

00:18:58.000 Also, if you're talking about a human being in one very specific issue, don't they have a lot of things going on in their life?

00:19:04.000 I'm interested in the full human.

00:19:06.000 I'm not interested in just digging the dirt on one bad situation that you may or may not be involved in. 1.00

00:19:12.000 You said some shit to me. 1.00

00:19:14.000 When I had my kid, you said, you know what's really funny is that when I'm talking to somebody or somebody's being incredibly annoying or they're frustrating, they're being a pain in the ass, they're being a dick, I just imagine them as a six-week-old baby. 1.00

00:19:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:30.000 And it's like every one of them started out that way, this innocent, pure, amazing little thing.

00:19:36.000 And life might have turned them into this. 0.99

00:19:39.000 Life, shitty parents, bad neighborhood. 0.99

00:19:42.000 And then sometimes it's just genes. 1.00

00:19:45.000 Sometimes you get wacky genes, man. 0.99

00:19:47.000 Sometimes people are mentally ill right from the jump.

00:19:50.000 And I don't think people like to admit that, but that's a fact.

00:19:55.000 How much can you do with that?

00:19:58.000 Not much.

00:19:59.000 And then when it comes to medication, what is the medication doing it?

00:20:02.000 Is it dulling the mind so that the impulses don't come out?

00:20:06.000 Is it ramping up your dopamine so you don't want to do those things?

00:20:11.000 Yeah, I was wondering that with Prozac.

00:20:13.000 I didn't realize how many people I knew that were on Prozac.

00:20:16.000 What's he saying?

00:20:19.000 Yay or nay?

00:20:19.000 Yeah, we're good.

00:20:20.000 Let's just do it.

00:20:22.000 Okay.

00:20:30.000 Yeah.

00:20:30.000 Speaking of.

00:20:32.000 Speaking of psychos.

00:20:33.000 Speaking of people that are potentially bad.

00:20:36.000 Yeah.

00:20:37.000 That do not have your good interests at heart and will take advantage of you and maybe are pathological in their desires to crush.

00:20:48.000 So we're talking about Andrew Huberman's situation.

00:20:51.000 His situation, not Huberman.

00:20:52.000 Yeah.

00:20:53.000 So one of the things that was left out of that article...

00:20:57.000 People know, I assume everybody here knows exactly what happened.

00:21:00.000 So there's an article that Andrew Huberman, an ex, got a hold of a reporter and said that he's a philanderer, he's doing all these terrible things, he's a bad guy.

00:21:10.000 And so they write this long article.

00:21:12.000 What they left out was that the person who accused him of all this...

00:21:18.000 First of all, it's being investigated by the DOJ for fraud and is in the middle of that right now.

00:21:23.000 It's a very serious case.

00:21:24.000 I would name the case, but that would...

00:21:25.000 Like, they made the lady anonymous, which is also crazy.

00:21:29.000 Like, you could have an anonymous person who attacks this famous person, which is essentially...

00:21:37.000 Whether it's true, the things she's saying are true or not true, the stuff she left out, the DOJ stuff...

00:21:43.000 Oh, and that's when he breaks it off.

00:21:44.000 Exactly.

00:21:45.000 He breaks it off.

00:21:46.000 The DOJ contacts him because they're investigating this woman.

00:21:49.000 And you think that that would be like maybe the first paragraph?

00:21:53.000 You would think that would at least be a part of the article.

00:21:56.000 Yeah.

00:21:56.000 If it was a real piece of news.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 You would say, oh, this is complicated.

00:22:01.000 Okay, so what do you think it is?

00:22:02.000 Do you think it could come from pharmaceutical companies?

00:22:05.000 I don't think there's zero influence.

00:22:09.000 You know, I mean, I think for sure.

00:22:11.000 Look, with the stuff that happened to me.

00:22:13.000 That's what I was going to ask.

00:22:13.000 What do you think it comes from?

00:22:15.000 That was 100% influenced by pharmaceutical drug companies.

00:22:18.000 Political interests, too?

00:22:19.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 Well, they're all tied in together because they fund them.

00:22:23.000 So you've got pharmaceutical drug interests that, A, fund the network, right?

00:22:28.000 They pay for so much of the advertisement.

00:22:30.000 I mean, you can't just cut that off.

00:22:34.000 If the news said, no more pharmaceutical drugs, let's imagine if the government says this.

00:22:40.000 The government says, no more pharmaceutical drug contributions to super PACs, no more pharmaceutical drugs ads on television shows and newspapers.

00:22:51.000 No more.

00:22:51.000 Then you have to fill a massive void that's missing from those ads.

00:22:57.000 And you're going to have to bring in Toyota trucks and fucking all these different things. 0.97

00:23:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:01.000 You're missing out on a lot of fucking money. 0.99

00:23:04.000 So, if that's a giant portion of your ad revenue, you're going to avoid all conversations about vaccine injuries. 0.99

00:23:11.000 Yes.

00:23:12.000 They're not going to come up.

00:23:13.000 You're going to shut them down and go to commercial.

00:23:15.000 Yes.

00:23:16.000 You're going to say, well, the studies don't show that.

00:23:17.000 The studies don't...

00:23:18.000 You'll talk over RFK. Yeah.

00:23:20.000 What you're saying is just simply not true.

00:23:22.000 Vaccines are the reason why we don't have... 0.98

00:23:24.000 Yes.

00:23:26.000 Vaccines have never been shown to cause autism.

00:23:29.000 Vaccines...

00:23:29.000 We'll be right back.

00:23:30.000 They go to commercial.

00:23:31.000 And then it's just like the person shouted them down.

00:23:33.000 They're probably getting talk in their ear.

00:23:36.000 Don Lemon, get off the subject.

00:23:38.000 There's probably someone in their ear because they do have earpieces.

00:23:43.000 But here's the thing.

00:23:43.000 I don't even know if they have to tell you.

00:23:45.000 When you know that you are being paid by someone...

00:23:48.000 It's very easy to just go along with whatever narrative they support.

00:23:52.000 100%.

00:23:52.000 And that's the tricky thing, because a lot of times we act like there's this group of six people that are disseminating this information.

00:23:58.000 They're directly hitting up Don Lemon, all these other people, like, you must behave this way.

00:24:02.000 I think people fall in line.

00:24:04.000 I think it's almost human instinct to fall in line.

00:24:06.000 When you know who's got your back, you kind of fall in line with it. 0.97

00:24:09.000 And if the pharmaceutical companies are supporting 25% of your ads, or 30%, whatever the fuck it is, you fall in line with it. 0.95

00:24:16.000 Yeah. 0.90

00:24:16.000 You fall in line with the narratives of the networks you're with. 0.90

00:24:18.000 If you write for the Washington Post, you probably fall in line.

00:24:20.000 And when you start to ruffle feathers, your articles don't get posted. 0.92

00:24:23.000 And then you realize, oh shit, if I want my articles to get posted, I got to write like this. 0.97

00:24:28.000 My kid's in private school and I want to build a pool. 0.99

00:24:30.000 And now there's this incentive structure that's built in without anybody fucking telling you what to do. 0.97

00:24:35.000 Exactly.

00:24:35.000 So it's this it's not as like nefarious as people assume it is when you hear about like the deep state and all these people telling you It's an incentive structure built in and human beings want to survive And we start kind of doing the things that will help us survive and it's all implied You know what you're supposed to say and not supposed to say it's the Clinton speaking fee like no one wants to hear Hillary Clinton speak Nobody ever has wanted to hear her speak,

00:24:58.000 but she's getting 400 grand from Goldman Sachs and Yeah, exactly. 0.81

00:25:01.000 After she's, you know, what was he?

00:25:03.000 Secretary of State.

00:25:04.000 So it's like, but Goldman Sachs doesn't need to say, hey, by the way, you're going to get speaking fees.

00:25:09.000 She knows it!

00:25:11.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:25:11.000 They all fucking know it! 0.99

00:25:13.000 Well, that was why during the Trump debates with Clinton, he was like, release the transcripts of those speeches. 0.99

00:25:19.000 Oh, I love it.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, I'll release my taxes, you release the transcripts.

00:25:21.000 Yeah.

00:25:22.000 And what is the transcript?

00:25:23.000 Hey guys, do we really need to be here, or can I go home?

00:25:25.000 You know what I want.

00:25:26.000 I want you guys to make money.

00:25:29.000 Let's keep it rolling.

00:25:30.000 So that's the deep state, if you will.

00:25:34.000 It's not six people.

00:25:35.000 Well, that is like the people that are in your crew that start acting entitled The Hillary Clintons are the people that are maybe disrespectful to the servers and you find out about it.

00:25:54.000 They sent food back.

00:25:56.000 It's not the main guy.

00:25:58.000 It's the support staff.

00:26:00.000 So the main people are not the presidents.

00:26:04.000 The main people are the people that are running Raytheon, the people that are running these gigantic Yeah.

00:26:11.000 Companies that make weapons.

00:26:12.000 Dude, that...

00:26:13.000 I didn't even...

00:26:13.000 That's where the real money is.

00:26:14.000 When we had RFK on, I didn't even fucking know this shit. 1.00

00:26:18.000 But... 0.99

00:26:18.000 I didn't know, like, when we're sending money to Ukraine... 0.99

00:26:23.000 We're not really even sending money there.

00:26:25.000 We're sending money to American military manufacturers to make weapons, and then the weapons go to Ukraine.

00:26:32.000 Duh.

00:26:32.000 But we're paying us!

00:26:34.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 But you can't really save- But also, some money goes over there, too.

00:26:37.000 And that money- But a fraction.

00:26:39.000 Enough.

00:26:39.000 Billions.

00:26:40.000 And that money is like, whoo- Where'd it go?

00:26:42.000 Yeah.

00:26:43.000 Dudes are doing coke and driving around in Rolls Royces and balls.

00:26:46.000 Oh, I saw that.

00:26:46.000 The guy bought the- Yeah, what was it?

00:26:48.000 The assistant, it wasn't the vice president, but it was some government figure who bought some insane car.

00:26:55.000 And it's like, why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a war?

00:26:57.000 How do you have the money?

00:26:58.000 Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy.

00:27:00.000 Okay, so there's the system.

00:27:02.000 I think Vivek called it the managerial class or something like that, which I thought was a good term.

00:27:08.000 But, okay, the money is going to these different industries first.

00:27:13.000 So it's kind of staying in America, which does, I guess, boost our economy in some way.

00:27:17.000 Like, those people need to hire people.

00:27:19.000 The economy starts to do- That's a good way to look at it.

00:27:21.000 No, but I mean, like, no, no, for real.

00:27:22.000 Like, it's like, they have to hire people.

00:27:24.000 They have to pay people.

00:27:26.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 And that's why war is good for the economy.

00:27:28.000 And if the economy is built on this military-industrial complex or whatever it is, we constantly need conflict in order to continue the positive momentum of the economy.

00:27:39.000 Yes.

00:27:39.000 But they can't say that.

00:27:41.000 They can't go, hey, we need war in order for the economy to be good.

00:27:44.000 They're not thinking about the economy.

00:27:46.000 They're thinking about the money that they are specifically going to make from these transactions.

00:27:49.000 Yeah.

00:27:50.000 They're not thinking about, oh, we're going to do this good for the economy.

00:27:53.000 They're thinking this is an opportunity to get a massive contract.

00:27:55.000 They're in the business of constantly making more money.

00:27:58.000 When you're in a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation, you have an obligation to your shareholders to make more money.

00:28:04.000 You have a board.

00:28:05.000 You have people that have dumped $100 million into the company, and they're staring at you, and you're like, what are we doing to maximize profits?

00:28:12.000 And just like if you're, you know, working for CNN, you know, if someone starts saying the vaccines might be killing kids, you got to step in and go, there's no evidence for this.

00:28:26.000 You got to cover.

00:28:27.000 You're covering for this.

00:28:29.000 Everyone's covering.

00:28:30.000 And if you're the head of a corporation, it's your job to get these contracts.

00:28:35.000 It's a sociopathic sort of a situation.

00:28:38.000 No one's looking at it like, what is the big picture?

00:28:40.000 Does this really need to be happening?

00:28:41.000 Isn't there some sort of a diplomatic approach that can be made?

00:28:43.000 What were the factors that led us to get into the situation in the first place?

00:28:47.000 What's going on with NATO? Why are they moving weapons closer and closer to Russia's border?

00:28:51.000 Maybe there's a diplomatic solution that could stop the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

00:28:58.000 But no.

00:28:59.000 No.

00:28:59.000 Make that cheddar.

00:29:01.000 Let's go!

00:29:02.000 Let's go!

00:29:03.000 And then attach it to different bills, right?

00:29:06.000 Like, attach it to the border bill. 1.00

00:29:08.000 Attach it to the fucking... 0.99

00:29:09.000 Attach it to the education bill. 1.00

00:29:12.000 No, we gotta educate those Russians about our fucking bombs. 1.00

00:29:17.000 That's part of the education bill. 1.00

00:29:19.000 They gotta know about a tomahawk missile, bitch. 1.00

00:29:23.000 So how do you stop that? 1.00

00:29:27.000 Money.

00:29:28.000 And the problem is it's already been embedded, right?

00:29:30.000 It's like trying to tell the mob you can't make money anymore.

00:29:33.000 Like, you have to do some radical things to get the mob out of businesses, right?

00:29:37.000 And that's what they had to do with Giuliani in New York with the John Gotti and the families and locking everybody up.

00:29:43.000 Like, you can't just say, hey guys, stop doing that.

00:29:47.000 That's what they do.

00:29:49.000 It's what they do.

00:29:49.000 That's what they did with Iraq.

00:29:51.000 That's what they did with Afghanistan. 0.91

00:29:52.000 That's what they did with Vietnam. 0.99

00:29:53.000 They do it with everything.

00:29:55.000 That's what Eisenhower warned the American people about when he was leaving office, which is one of the craziest videos in human history, where he's saying the military-industrial complex wants to go to war.

00:30:08.000 There's a machine that wants to go to war, and you have to be very careful of it.

00:30:12.000 So what is the history of this?

00:30:13.000 So World War II, the whole country turns into a war machine?

00:30:17.000 Exactly.

00:30:18.000 And which was beneficial for us.

00:30:20.000 Sure.

00:30:20.000 Great for the economy.

00:30:21.000 Great for a lot of things.

00:30:23.000 Great to unite us.

00:30:24.000 Great for freedom. 0.99

00:30:24.000 Great for not speaking fucking German for the rest of our existence. 0.99

00:30:28.000 And it turns into a war machine. 0.99

00:30:31.000 Like, Ford just starts making tanks.

00:30:34.000 Like, everybody shifts their goal, right?

00:30:37.000 Is that essentially what happens when...

00:30:39.000 Well, a lot of people definitely shift their...

00:30:40.000 I mean, Ford obviously kept making cars, but a lot of people do shift their businesses.

00:30:44.000 But I think Ford also started making military vehicles.

00:30:46.000 Did they?

00:30:47.000 Makes sense.

00:30:48.000 That was my understanding, is that every business started to prioritize the war effort.

00:30:51.000 Right.

00:30:52.000 Definitely.

00:30:52.000 Not overnight, but pretty quickly, the whole country had one singular focus, which was, if we need to go to war...

00:30:58.000 We can turn it over.

00:31:00.000 I think that's what Napoleon did, actually.

00:31:02.000 That was how he was so effective.

00:31:03.000 He turned the whole country into a war machine.

00:31:06.000 Whereas before, it was like, wait, I thought we were just lining up in the field and banging back and forth against each other.

00:31:10.000 He was like, no, no, you're fighting the whole country.

00:31:12.000 So then when we get to turn over and flip and Ford starts making vehicles or whatever the fuck it needs for the military effort, we have a huge competitive advantage.

00:31:19.000 The money that comes in through that, in fact, check me on this, please, but the money that starts to be generated by that is very hard to relinquish when the war is done.

00:31:28.000 The war stops and then people go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we were making $100 million a year during war.

00:31:32.000 I don't want to go back to $20 million.

00:31:34.000 So we need more wars.

00:31:36.000 Is that the idea?

00:31:37.000 Yeah, that's definitely a part of the idea.

00:31:39.000 It's also connected to a lot of other things, too, that you wouldn't think about, like subsidizing food.

00:31:44.000 So subsidizing farmers.

00:31:46.000 So, like, when you hear about corn subsidies, like we have corn subsidies, that's why there's corn syrup in everything.

00:31:52.000 We picked a crop that could feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn.

00:31:55.000 Well, what happened was, during World War II, they started to subsidize farmers so that they would have a surplus.

00:32:03.000 So in case another war breaks out, they have food storage.

00:32:07.000 They have the ability to feed the country, even if we're cut off from the rest of the world.

00:32:14.000 And when you're dependent upon foreign countries for different things like grains and medicines, and that's one of the things we found out during COVID, right?

00:32:23.000 A lot of medicine is made in China.

00:32:25.000 A lot of it was very hard to come by during COVID because of the transportation issues.

00:32:31.000 Isn't that one of the issues with Ukraine?

00:32:33.000 I'm sure.

00:32:34.000 Not with medicine, but with actual grain.

00:32:36.000 It's one of the largest grain producers in the world.

00:32:38.000 So I think there even had to be an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue sending out grain during the conflict.

00:32:45.000 Wild.

00:32:46.000 Wild.

00:32:48.000 The rules of war are so wild.

00:32:50.000 Like, when someone says it's a war crime, you know?

00:32:54.000 Who decides?

00:32:55.000 Who decides the levels? 0.98

00:32:56.000 You can only kill people certain ways.

00:32:58.000 Like, one of the wildest ones was also during World War I. It's a guy named Fritz Haber.

00:33:05.000 And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere that's responsible for Some crazy number today, this method is responsible for something about, see if this is true, I think it's something around 50% of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the Haber method.

00:33:26.000 So 50% of the nitrogen from your food has been extracted from the atmosphere by the Haber method in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use, especially When you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer, they have to spray it because the topsoil is all dead for a lot of these modern industrial monocrop agriculture establishments.

00:33:48.000 So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zyklon A. He created this gas that they were using.

00:34:00.000 They turned it to Zyklon B. They took the smell out of it so they could kill the Jews with it. 1.00

00:34:06.000 And he also used the gas when they were gassing Allied troops in World War I. This was the first time that that had been done.

00:34:14.000 So they had these massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all.

00:34:20.000 And so he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize and being a war criminal at the same time. 0.56

00:34:30.000 He was wanted for crimes against humanity at the same time.

00:34:35.000 He created the Haber method.

00:34:36.000 What's the matter, Jamie?

00:34:55.000 Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy, water, and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process.

00:35:02.000 So this is his...

00:35:03.000 I mean, he was a legitimate genius. 0.97

00:35:05.000 And his story is so fucking tragic. 0.92

00:35:07.000 When he was leaving to go to the front lines to war to use his gas, it was so controversial. 0.98

00:35:15.000 There was so much...

00:35:16.000 His wife committed suicide.

00:35:18.000 In front of him, shot herself in the heart, and he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive. 0.58

00:35:24.000 He left her with his 13-year-old son to take care of her.

00:35:27.000 She eventually died.

00:35:29.000 But I mean, his whole life became...

00:35:33.000 Did he feel remorse for this at all?

00:35:34.000 I don't know.

00:35:35.000 I don't know.

00:35:36.000 But eventually, during World War II, He was a Jew and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested and all these different things that happened to him and he wound up fleeing and he died while he was fleeing.

00:35:52.000 I think he died of heart failure.

00:35:54.000 It's probably just racked with stress.

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 I mean, the guy, his whole life, I mean, what did you do?

00:36:01.000 Yeah.

00:36:01.000 What did you do?

00:36:02.000 You created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen to get into the soil and feed millions of people, stop starvation for millions of people.

00:36:11.000 And you also created the gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps, and you also We created war crimes by being the first government, the first army to spray chemicals at the troops that just kills everybody indiscriminately. 0.56

00:36:28.000 Men, women, children, anybody downwind, dead.

00:36:32.000 So then who decides, like when is there the conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what are war crimes and what are not? 0.90

00:36:38.000 Like you can kill someone with a bullet, that's okay.

00:36:42.000 Right? 0.98

00:36:43.000 As long as they are Not an innocent civilian?

00:36:48.000 Yeah, but then what about metadata, right?

00:36:52.000 Do you know how they target some people with bombs?

00:36:57.000 Okay, so let's say you're a terrorist, and let's say you're hanging out in this building, and the government knows where you are because they have your cell phone.

00:37:06.000 So they have the metadata of your cell phone, so they know your cell phone is in this room.

00:37:11.000 Boom! 0.99

00:37:12.000 Game over.

00:37:13.000 Everybody dead.

00:37:14.000 Everybody dead.

00:37:15.000 Not just you.

00:37:16.000 Not just me.

00:37:16.000 Not just Jamie.

00:37:17.000 Security staff.

00:37:18.000 Everybody. 1.00

00:37:18.000 This is the drone strike the wedding shit. 1.00

00:37:20.000 People next door. 1.00

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:21.000 That's what they do.

00:37:22.000 Yeah.

00:37:23.000 So you know what the percentage is of innocent people that die in drone strikes?

00:37:27.000 99?

00:37:27.000 We don't know, really.

00:37:29.000 Because here's the problem.

00:37:30.000 And this has to be, like, you have to be kind of honest about this.

00:37:34.000 They lie, too.

00:37:36.000 Right.

00:37:36.000 Nobody's going to be like, I'm a bad guy.

00:37:38.000 Right.

00:37:39.000 They'll say, oh, you killed 30 children, and they'll take photos.

00:37:43.000 So you're getting some of the information as far as the data.

00:37:45.000 They never know good shot.

00:37:47.000 Right.

00:37:47.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.000 So we don't know the exact numbers.

00:37:50.000 There's estimated numbers, but for sure, it's not more bad guys.

00:37:55.000 For sure, it's more innocents than it is bad guys.

00:37:58.000 And the high estimates are in like the 80 and 90%.

00:38:01.000 Of innocent civilians that die in drone strikes.

00:38:04.000 And what is the justification?

00:38:05.000 Because there's a bad guy over there.

00:38:06.000 We've got to get that bad guy.

00:38:07.000 And it's in another country. 1.00

00:38:09.000 So when it's in another country, you can kind of get away with some shit. 1.00

00:38:12.000 But also I imagine the justification is like that one bad guy could have killed hundreds of thousands of our good guys. 0.99

00:38:17.000 That's their steel man argument for it, I imagine.

00:38:20.000 Because they also have to have a justification.

00:38:21.000 It can't happen without them going, hey, we thought about this.

00:38:24.000 Exactly.

00:38:25.000 And then imagine the person that you need to pull the trigger on that or push the button, right?

00:38:31.000 Like the constitution that they have to have.

00:38:33.000 Yeah.

00:38:34.000 That's a lot of guilt.

00:38:36.000 This goes back to the sociopathy.

00:38:37.000 Oh, they have massive PTSD. Yeah.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, those people that run, they say it's a unique form of PTSD because they weren't really there.

00:38:45.000 Right. 1.00

00:38:46.000 They're behind a fucking video console. 1.00

00:38:48.000 They're working on a fucking Xbox controller. 1.00

00:38:51.000 Have presidents ever said that? 1.00

00:38:54.000 Did Lincoln write anything about the death toll during the Civil War?

00:38:59.000 That's a good question.

00:39:00.000 I wonder if even modern day.

00:39:01.000 Does Obama talk about it?

00:39:03.000 The people that died?

00:39:04.000 The Bushes?

00:39:05.000 I think you can't.

00:39:06.000 George Bush has handled Iraq better than anybody in history. 1.00

00:39:10.000 He's just been painting dogs and shit. 1.00

00:39:13.000 He's giving little fucking lozenges to Michelle. 1.00

00:39:15.000 There's nothing there. 1.00

00:39:17.000 What's going on?

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:18.000 And maybe you need somebody that's kind of not got a lot going on up there to do it.

00:39:23.000 Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they made movies about Dick Cheney afterwards.

00:39:27.000 They made him out to be this monster.

00:39:29.000 I feel like that's taking all accountability away from the guy who was in charge.

00:39:34.000 It's very easy to be like, yeah, it was just him.

00:39:35.000 This guy's got to co-sign it, too, and that's the job.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:38.000 If you're the head coach of the team and the assistant coach is making all the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right?

00:39:43.000 He's also the son of a great man.

00:39:46.000 And, you know, when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was the head of the CIA, and, you know, you are second fiddle.

00:39:54.000 You're good at taking directions.

00:39:56.000 And that's why you'd make a good president.

00:39:58.000 You're a good, handsome man. 0.99

00:40:00.000 We're going to smoke them out of their holes. 1.00

00:40:02.000 You look like a president, and then let's let a good old dick take things behind the scenes. 1.00

00:40:06.000 And just look at the evidence of what they did, right? 0.99

00:40:09.000 One of the things that they gave Halliburton no-bid contracts for, For fucking billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq. 0.98

00:40:15.000 How wild is this? 0.98

00:40:16.000 That the guy who was the vice president, Was on the board of... 1.00

00:40:20.000 He was like the fucking... 0.99

00:40:23.000 He was the head of Halbert. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Was he getting a piece during his vice presidency?

00:40:27.000 Yes!

00:40:27.000 Yeah, that seems like a conflict of interest.

00:40:29.000 He is blowing these places up!

00:40:33.000 He's blowing these places up!

00:40:35.000 It's like their decisions that are causing these places to get blown up.

00:40:39.000 If I make money on building...

00:40:40.000 Dick Cheney resumes role as chairman of Halbert& Company.

00:40:44.000 Oh, he's back.

00:40:44.000 Wow.

00:40:46.000 When is this?

00:40:47.000 I don't know.

00:40:47.000 This is after he left office?

00:40:49.000 I might have...

00:40:49.000 2000, so yeah, this was actually before.

00:40:52.000 Right?

00:40:52.000 Well, no, this was during the Bush administration, right?

00:40:55.000 Effective today, 2000. He became president right around then.

00:40:58.000 Right.

00:40:59.000 Right?

00:41:00.000 He resumed his role while he was vice president?

00:41:03.000 No, that's...

00:41:03.000 I don't...

00:41:04.000 I thought...

00:41:04.000 I misread what was happening here, because it said February...

00:41:06.000 But it says...

00:41:07.000 I clicked that first here.

00:41:09.000 Right.

00:41:10.000 Because it's February 24th.

00:41:11.000 Cheney will succeed Bill Bradford.

00:41:13.000 Click it again?

00:41:14.000 But then the second...

00:41:15.000 Okay, Dick Cheney resumes role.

00:41:17.000 This is a new article, it says.

00:41:19.000 So look at what it says.

00:41:21.000 Dick Cheney has resumed role of Chairman of the Board of Halliburton, effective today, February 1st, 2000. That's weird that it just came out.

00:41:29.000 Weird also continues his current position as Chief Executive Officer of the company, joining Halliburton.

00:41:35.000 So this was right before the election.

00:41:37.000 I think this is the announcement when that guy got confused.

00:41:41.000 But February 1st, 2000 means he's already in office, correct?

00:41:44.000 Or is it 2001?

00:41:46.000 It's January 2001 that Bush goes into office, right?

00:41:50.000 Election was 2000, yeah.

00:41:51.000 So this is 11 months earlier, so is he even named as vice president yet?

00:41:56.000 Is he running with him at that time?

00:41:59.000 He became vice president January 20th.

00:42:00.000 It's almost one year later, exactly.

00:42:02.000 Right, but I'm saying is he named as vice president as a running mate?

00:42:06.000 I'm checking when they...

00:42:07.000 I don't know.

00:42:08.000 Right, because that's generally a little later.

00:42:10.000 Once someone wins the primaries, they announce their VP. Yeah, but if you're not actually president, you can hold another position, or vice president.

00:42:17.000 If you're not actually in government, you can up to that day.

00:42:19.000 I would like to meet GW. You'd like to meet him?

00:42:22.000 What would you ask him?

00:42:23.000 I would just talk to him.

00:42:24.000 About?

00:42:25.000 I wouldn't want to dig.

00:42:26.000 I would just talk to him.

00:42:27.000 I just want to find out what makes him tick.

00:42:29.000 What do you think?

00:42:30.000 Halliburton reportedly reached the agreement on July 20th to allow Cheney to retire.

00:42:34.000 With a package of an estimated 20 million. 1.00

00:42:36.000 Let's go, dick! 1.00

00:42:39.000 I mean, pulled it off, man! 1.00

00:42:41.000 Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff?

00:42:43.000 Yes.

00:42:44.000 The ignorance is bliss.

00:42:46.000 Yes. 1.00

00:42:46.000 I feel a tremendous weight of the amount of people that pay attention to the shit I say. 1.00

00:42:54.000 It's a tremendous weight. 0.99

00:42:55.000 So you feel like there's some things, like, I would rather just be a hayseed.

00:43:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:43:00.000 Just fucking hanging out on my farm in Kansas shooting deer with bows and arrows. 0.99

00:43:05.000 Well, that's what I was going to ask. 0.99

00:43:05.000 Like, when you're out shooting deer... 0.99

00:43:07.000 That's my favorite time that I'm disconnected.

00:43:10.000 I don't have cell phone service. 0.99

00:43:12.000 I don't have shit. 0.99

00:43:13.000 You're not thinking about the deep state. 1.00

00:43:14.000 No, man.

00:43:15.000 I'm thinking about mountain lions and I'm thinking about bugling elk.

00:43:19.000 I'm thinking how my cardio is.

00:43:21.000 Do I get enough electrolytes in me this morning?

00:43:23.000 Make sure my protein take is right. 0.98

00:43:25.000 I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mountains. 1.00

00:43:29.000 You like hard shit. 1.00

00:43:30.000 That's something I've noticed about you. 1.00

00:43:33.000 And I think it's a really important thing to...

00:43:37.000 It's an important quality to have as you achieve more success because with success, life can get easier.

00:43:45.000 So if you're not addicted to difficulty and like hard situations, it's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing.

00:43:54.000 Because there was a guy on the podcast, Russ, who's an awesome artist.

00:44:00.000 But he was like, yeah, once you get money, things become easy.

00:44:03.000 And then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of.

00:44:08.000 So you like hard things. 0.98

00:44:10.000 You admire David Goggins because he's doing hard shit all the time. 0.99

00:44:14.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:44:16.000 I think a lot of times people don't like hard things.

00:44:18.000 And then when they get success, hard things make them anxious and they stop doing hard things.

00:44:22.000 And hard things are what make us successful.

00:44:25.000 When we have nothing, we have to do hard things.

00:44:27.000 We have to go up in front of crowds that might not be good. 0.97

00:44:30.000 We have to go run fucking really hard. 0.93

00:44:32.000 We have to work out really hard, whatever it is. 0.93

00:44:34.000 And I wonder if that's when like kids who grow up with very wealthy parents are not used to hard things and they don't really have to do anything hard.

00:44:41.000 Right.

00:44:42.000 And if they don't have that as a core value to them, that doing hard things is good, of course they're going to be anxious about everything.

00:44:49.000 Of course they're going to use drugs. 0.99

00:44:50.000 Of course they're going to be bored out of their fucking mind. 0.99

00:44:52.000 So it's one of those things that, as I've gotten a potentially more comfortable life, I have to force myself to do things I'm afraid of, or I do think that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart. 0.99

00:45:04.000 Comfort is a warm and enticing poison.

00:45:07.000 Yep.

00:45:08.000 And it's a slow poison.

00:45:10.000 Yep.

00:45:10.000 You can take a little bit of it on the couch, just relaxing.

00:45:13.000 And it is nice.

00:45:14.000 Take a little of it.

00:45:15.000 It's nice.

00:45:15.000 But don't let that get into your veins.

00:45:17.000 Because it'll make the rest of your life harder.

00:45:19.000 Because you're going to encounter hard things.

00:45:21.000 And if the hard thing that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing that you don't force yourself into, isn't harder than the other things in life, you're going to have a hard time managing.

00:45:32.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 And it's voluntary.

00:45:33.000 It has to be voluntary.

00:45:34.000 You have to choose it.

00:45:35.000 You have to have discipline.

00:45:36.000 I think characters like cardio.

00:45:39.000 I think you have to keep it up.

00:45:41.000 I do.

00:45:42.000 I really do.

00:45:43.000 You take a few weeks off of cardio, you're like...

00:45:45.000 I think that's the same with character.

00:45:47.000 And I think it's the same with doing difficult things.

00:45:51.000 And also self-assessing, honestly. 0.99

00:45:54.000 Knowing where you fucked up. 0.98

00:45:56.000 There's moments that you have, I'm sure, in your life where you look back. 0.99

00:45:59.000 It might have been ten years ago. 1.00

00:46:00.000 You're like, fuck. 1.00

00:46:01.000 Why did I say that to that dude? 1.00

00:46:02.000 I didn't need to say that.

00:46:04.000 I shouldn't have said that.

00:46:05.000 God, I was just in the wrong place, wrong time, wrong headspace.

00:46:09.000 Why did I do that?

00:46:09.000 Oh, I was drunk.

00:46:10.000 Why did I say that?

00:46:11.000 Why did I do that?

00:46:12.000 You know, those things, you should know those too.

00:46:15.000 You don't absolve yourself of those things.

00:46:17.000 Know those things are real.

00:46:19.000 And just always constantly strive to do better. 0.99

00:46:23.000 The problem is when people fuck up, they think of themselves as that fuck up. 0.99

00:46:27.000 And that's a difficult thing for someone with a bad past, like dudes have been in jail, it's really difficult for them. 0.99

00:46:33.000 That becomes their identity.

00:46:34.000 It becomes a part of who you recognize that's a part of your behavior characteristics.

00:46:39.000 You don't think of yourself as the best you when you made the right decision, when your friend calls you and you could tell him, I'm busy, bro.

00:46:45.000 I can't help you. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Be like, I can put that shit aside. 0.99

00:46:48.000 Go help my boy. 1.00

00:46:48.000 And go help your friend. 1.00

00:46:50.000 And then you show up for him.

00:46:51.000 He's like, dude, you're here for me.

00:46:52.000 Thank you, brother.

00:46:53.000 Appreciate it so much, man. 0.97

00:46:55.000 And you're helping him fix his tire or move or whatever the fuck it is.

00:46:59.000 Those moments, man, unite human beings. 0.80

00:47:02.000 They're very, very important moments.

00:47:05.000 And that's what everybody should strive for.

00:47:07.000 You should strive for the moments when you worked really hard at something and you accomplished it.

00:47:11.000 When you didn't want to get through a workout, but you did it.

00:47:14.000 When you finished the marathon.

00:47:15.000 When you apologized for being out of line.

00:47:19.000 When you told people how you feel about them, even though it felt vulnerable.

00:47:23.000 I love you so much.

00:47:24.000 Thank you so much.

00:47:24.000 You inspire me.

00:47:26.000 You're an amazing human being and I'm so happy you're in my life.

00:47:29.000 That's what we all should be aspiring towards.

00:47:31.000 Aspiring to be better versions of ourselves.

00:47:34.000 And aspiring to put ourselves in situations that we fear.

00:47:37.000 Like everything you want is on the other side of what you fear.

00:47:39.000 Somebody said that.

00:47:40.000 And I really believe it though.

00:47:42.000 Every situation I put myself in that I'm scared of or anxious about, even if it doesn't work out perfectly, I do feel This confidence boost that I at least tried.

00:47:54.000 You know what I mean? 0.89

00:47:54.000 I at least fucking tried. 0.89

00:47:55.000 I was scared of doing it and I fucking tried. 0.98

00:47:57.000 And then if it works out, it's the best feeling in the world. 0.99

00:48:00.000 But if I pussy out, that's the worst. 0.99

00:48:03.000 That's the worst feeling. 1.00

00:48:04.000 It is the fucking worst. 0.99

00:48:05.000 The worst feeling. 0.98

00:48:05.000 But that's the importance of like... 0.98

00:48:09.000 The nice thing about stand-up, I guess, is that we know that we can't take months off.

00:48:15.000 It atrophies fast.

00:48:17.000 Fast.

00:48:18.000 Weeks off.

00:48:19.000 Yeah.

00:48:20.000 It's like we have to go up.

00:48:21.000 We have to constantly go up.

00:48:23.000 And yeah, there are things in life that are a million times more difficult than people have to do.

00:48:29.000 But it is one of those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love, which is we have to keep doing this.

00:48:34.000 And every time we try something new, it's bad.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, but we're also addicted to that accomplishment.

00:48:53.000 I'm really bad with vacations if I don't have things to do during it.

00:48:56.000 I can't just hang on the beach.

00:48:58.000 I cannot do it.

00:48:59.000 If I'm surfing, I can do it.

00:49:00.000 Or if I'm playing paddle, I can do it. 1.00

00:49:02.000 But I need to do shit. 1.00

00:49:03.000 Give me something to do. 1.00

00:49:05.000 And my wife knows.

00:49:05.000 I don't care if we're looking at the Coliseum.

00:49:07.000 I'm learning. 1.00

00:49:08.000 I'm asking a fucking tour guide questions. 0.99

00:49:10.000 I need to do a thing. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Because if I'm not, my brain goes fucking crazy. 0.98

00:49:17.000 It needs to be occupied. 0.99

00:49:19.000 I'm lucky that I have that.

00:49:20.000 Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing.

00:49:23.000 Why would I do anything?

00:49:24.000 It's a superpower.

00:49:25.000 But it has to be managed.

00:49:27.000 It's like having a Ferrari engine.

00:49:29.000 What do you mean? 1.00

00:49:30.000 If you have a Ferrari engine in a fucking... 1.00

00:49:34.000 Toyota Corolla. 1.00

00:49:35.000 That shit doesn't have the tires for it. 1.00

00:49:37.000 You're in a tree. 1.00

00:49:42.000 You have to learn how to manage that kind of a mind.

00:49:45.000 And you've built up a suspension and wide tires and strong carbon fiber ceramic brakes.

00:49:51.000 It's like you've got to have all those things.

00:49:53.000 So is that what you're constantly doing? 0.99

00:49:54.000 Are you constantly looking for more shit you're afraid of? 1.00

00:49:57.000 In your life? 1.00

00:49:58.000 Well, difficult things.

00:49:59.000 I like difficult things.

00:50:01.000 That's how I like cold plunging.

00:50:03.000 I like it because it's hard.

00:50:04.000 People are like, I hate it. 0.97

00:50:05.000 I fucking like it. 0.99

00:50:07.000 I don't like it. 1.00

00:50:08.000 Every time I'm about to do it, there's this little bitch ass part of my brain. 1.00

00:50:12.000 It's like, don't do that. 1.00

00:50:13.000 You don't need to do this. 1.00

00:50:14.000 And the other part of my brain that I've built up over the years is like, shut up, pussy. 1.00

00:50:18.000 I'm the boss. 1.00

00:50:19.000 So it's building the discipline.

00:50:20.000 It's not even like, okay, yeah, there are great, what is it, not side effects, but there are great main effects.

00:50:25.000 The inflammation goes down, whatever. 0.99

00:50:26.000 But it's more about building the fucking discipline to do the shit you don't want to do. 0.99

00:50:30.000 Yeah, but also because it's good for you. 0.99

00:50:33.000 If it was bad for me, if I didn't want to do it and every time I did it, it was killing me a little bit, I wouldn't do it.

00:50:38.000 But I do it because I know it's good for you and I know you feel great when you get out of it. 0.99

00:50:43.000 But Goggins, I'm sure, running all those fucking miles, like his joints are destroyed, his feet are fucked up. 0.99

00:50:48.000 There's a certain point of diminishing returns. 1.00

00:50:50.000 Yes.

00:50:51.000 But also you have to have the outlier.

00:50:54.000 You have to have the dude that's pure mind.

00:50:56.000 That's all just on the drive.

00:50:59.000 And that's Goggins.

00:51:00.000 You have to have the guy who...

00:51:01.000 So he's the extreme version of discipline.

00:51:03.000 He's uncommon amongst uncommon men.

00:51:05.000 Amongst all the psychos out there. 0.98

00:51:07.000 He's king psycho. 0.93

00:51:08.000 So it's not that he runs long. 0.88

00:51:11.000 It's that he will do the thing despite that little voice inside of him saying, you don't want to do this, just chill and relax.

00:51:18.000 And he'll tell you he has that voice. 0.99

00:51:19.000 He goes, I stare at my sneakers sometimes for 30 minutes before I put those motherfuckers on. 1.00

00:51:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:51:24.000 He'll tell you, but he always wins.

00:51:26.000 It's like, dude, when I'm taking the lid off that cold plunge, as I'm taking it off, he's like, don't do it, don't do it. 1.00

00:51:33.000 I'm like, shut the fuck up. 0.99

00:51:35.000 You got three more episodes of Shogun. 1.00

00:51:37.000 I set my watch, and I climb right in it.

00:51:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:45.000 And because I get through it every day, I start the day off with a win.

00:51:49.000 I won. 1.00

00:51:50.000 I beat the inner bitch. 1.00

00:51:51.000 I conquered the inner bitch. 1.00

00:51:53.000 I got in there. 0.99

00:51:54.000 And then I do the workout.

00:51:55.000 That's win number two. 0.71

00:51:57.000 So by the time the day is over, I've done shit that most people never do.

00:52:02.000 What do you feel when you're on vacation? 0.99

00:52:03.000 Like a crazy person. 1.00

00:52:06.000 Like a wolf on a fucking inflatable pool toy in the ocean. 1.00

00:52:11.000 Just going, what am I doing on this fucking thing? 1.00

00:52:13.000 And is your wife going, hey, you need to chill out? 1.00

00:52:16.000 I know how to do it now.

00:52:17.000 First of all, every day starts out with a workout.

00:52:20.000 Dude, it's so funny.

00:52:21.000 I told Emma, I was like, listen, we can go to these places.

00:52:25.000 The first three hours of the day, I'm doing what I need to do. 0.98

00:52:28.000 Once I calm it all down, Let's fucking drink a whatever on the beat. 0.99

00:52:33.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:52:33.000 But the first three, I need to do what I need to do. 0.99

00:52:37.000 I need breaks.

00:52:38.000 Breaks are good, but I don't really need a vacation because my life is awesome.

00:52:42.000 I love it.

00:52:44.000 I've cultivated a wonderful life.

00:52:46.000 I love my family.

00:52:47.000 I love my friends.

00:52:48.000 I love my jobs.

00:52:49.000 So I'm happy.

00:52:51.000 I'm a happy dude with what I do.

00:52:53.000 So when I go on vacation, it's like, okay, I just want to just have fun with the family and do a bunch of things, but I have to do something about this thing.

00:53:01.000 And your family knows? 0.99

00:53:01.000 This bitch, yes, they know me. 0.99

00:53:03.000 What about your kids? 1.00

00:53:04.000 Are they like, okay, he just needs to work out?

00:53:06.000 They get it.

00:53:07.000 Do they have it too?

00:53:08.000 Yeah, yeah, they both have it.

00:53:10.000 Really? 0.93

00:53:10.000 Yeah, they both have some psycho drive. 0.93

00:53:12.000 One of them for art, the other one is gymnastics.

00:53:15.000 And when you see it manifested, like for example, do you see them looking like the wolf when you guys are all on vacation?

00:53:21.000 Do you see them kind of pacing around?

00:53:22.000 They have to do things.

00:53:23.000 You have to keep them busy.

00:53:24.000 I had a conversation with my middle daughter at one point in time.

00:53:28.000 She was like, when we first moved here, she was real anxious.

00:53:31.000 And I go, you're a racehorse.

00:53:33.000 You got to get back to racing.

00:53:34.000 You got to get back to competing again.

00:53:36.000 And as soon as she went back to that, everything was fine.

00:53:38.000 She just was like, you know, didn't know we're in a new place, making new friends.

00:53:43.000 But there's like physical anxiety that comes with being a human being that I think activity diminishes.

00:53:50.000 And you need something like that.

00:53:51.000 You need the hardest thing of your day to be something that you choose.

00:53:55.000 You know, it might not be.

00:53:57.000 Obviously, circumstances are random and you could have a terrible thing happen to you.

00:54:01.000 But if you've built up your understanding of how to get through difficult things, it'll serve you in everything you do.

00:54:10.000 And if you do it voluntarily, then you've gained control over your mental process.

00:54:15.000 You want to sit?

00:54:17.000 So, with the kids, is this something you instill in them?

00:54:22.000 You can only do it so much, man.

00:54:24.000 You gotta be real loose-handed.

00:54:27.000 You gotta let them be their own thing.

00:54:28.000 They're their own little people.

00:54:30.000 It's very fascinating.

00:54:32.000 Are you rewarding and lighting the fire once you see that they're really drawn to something?

00:54:36.000 Oh, for sure.

00:54:37.000 Got it. 0.99

00:54:37.000 So you wait for them to choose, and then you lean the fuck in. 0.99

00:54:41.000 Yeah, well, you just... 0.99

00:54:42.000 Praise is very important for kids.

00:54:44.000 It means a lot.

00:54:44.000 It could really motivate them to excel to higher and higher levels.

00:54:48.000 Is that easy for you to give them the positive encouragement?

00:54:52.000 Oh, it's so easy, yeah.

00:54:53.000 My youngest is an insane artist, dude.

00:54:55.000 Let me see.

00:54:56.000 I'm going to show you this.

00:54:59.000 She's 13. Wow.

00:55:04.000 Dude, she was doing crazy work when she was six.

00:55:08.000 I showed one of her things to David Cho when she was like six or seven. 0.99

00:55:12.000 He was like, holy fuck, man. 0.99

00:55:14.000 Dude, she's crazy talented. 1.00

00:55:15.000 Jesus.

00:55:16.000 Yeah.

00:55:18.000 How old is she? 0.98

00:55:19.000 She's 13. She'll sit and she'll draw for hours and hours, man, just completely locked in and focused.

00:55:27.000 And you know, when I was young, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator.

00:55:31.000 So I was an artist when I was young, but I wasn't as good as her.

00:55:34.000 I wasn't as good.

00:55:35.000 I don't think I'm as good as her now.

00:55:37.000 She's 13. It's crazy.

00:55:40.000 Do you find yourself competing with them at all?

00:55:42.000 No.

00:55:43.000 No, no, no.

00:55:43.000 Unless we're playing games.

00:55:44.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:55:45.000 Yeah, I'm going to win.

00:55:46.000 Okay.

00:55:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:47.000 I'm trying to win.

00:55:48.000 I'm trying to win.

00:55:48.000 Okay, you won't give them a...

00:55:49.000 No.

00:55:50.000 Nothing?

00:55:51.000 No.

00:55:52.000 Interesting.

00:55:52.000 No.

00:55:53.000 Does it drive them crazy when they lose?

00:55:55.000 No, they win.

00:55:55.000 They win a lot, man.

00:55:58.000 We did virtual reality, and my 13-year-old beat me at this sword fighting game, and she fucking loved it. 0.99

00:56:05.000 She killed me. 0.99

00:56:06.000 It's like one of these...

00:56:07.000 You know what sandbox is?

00:56:08.000 You ever do sandbox?

00:56:09.000 Oh, this is the...

00:56:10.000 It's the dopest.

00:56:11.000 Sandbox, you're in a warehouse.

00:56:12.000 I love it.

00:56:13.000 You have a haptic feedback vest.

00:56:15.000 My favorite one is the zombie one.

00:56:17.000 But we compete in the zombie one, too.

00:56:20.000 This is a console that you're wearing, like a VR goggles or something?

00:56:23.000 You go to a place.

00:56:24.000 It's called Sandbox VR. It's a big warehouse.

00:56:27.000 And inside these warehouses, they have these spaces that are a little larger than this room.

00:56:32.000 And in this space, they give you a virtual reality headset.

00:56:36.000 They give you a haptic feedback vent.

00:56:38.000 You feel like you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by zombies, and then they give you a gun.

00:56:44.000 You have a plastic gun, okay? 0.97

00:56:46.000 And then you see yourself, you see everybody, everybody's like tactical ops outfits on and shit with helmets, and you're like, woo! 0.97

00:56:53.000 You high-five, you dance, you see each other dressed as these characters. 0.89

00:56:57.000 And then, you know, it's basically mapped out to the size of your body, and they put you in these things.

00:57:01.000 And then, like, they drop you off in Deadwood Mansion.

00:57:05.000 And Deadwood Mansion is this haunted house, and this, like, crazy scientist who've developed zombies, and the zombies start invading the house.

00:57:13.000 And you're just gunning them down.

00:57:15.000 And we always compete to see who kills the most zombies.

00:57:18.000 But I have a lot of gun experience. 0.99

00:57:21.000 I fucked those zombies up, man. 0.97

00:57:23.000 I, at one point in time, had number three in the country, or the number three score in the country. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Yeah, bro, I went ham.

00:57:29.000 Oh, this is it, yeah.

00:57:30.000 So this is it.

00:57:31.000 So let me just give you a pro tip.

00:57:33.000 If you want this, if you want this game, get the shotgun.

00:57:37.000 Shotgun face shots. 0.99

00:57:38.000 You want face shots on zombies. 0.99

00:57:40.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:57:40.000 Don't be fucking around with the legs. 1.00

00:57:42.000 See, the machine guns are fun and everything like that, and you reload by just going like this. 1.00

00:57:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:47.000 Just point the gun down and it reloads.

00:57:49.000 Bro, it's so fun.

00:57:51.000 I'm so addicted to this game. 0.98

00:57:53.000 You're in this house, and it's all dark and shadowy and shit, and the light from your pistols that's lighting these zombies. 0.98

00:58:00.000 Bro, it's so much fun. 0.99

00:58:02.000 Oh, this is amazing.

00:58:05.000 But yeah, I always try to win. 0.94

00:58:06.000 I always try to kill the most zombies.

00:58:08.000 So at the end of the day, you get the VIP. What is the VIP? The VIP is the most valuable player.

00:58:13.000 The MVP? Yeah, it's VIP though.

00:58:16.000 Very important player.

00:58:17.000 Okay.

00:58:18.000 I don't know if they say MVP, but either way. 1.00

00:58:20.000 I always win that shit. 1.00

00:58:22.000 I'm not letting anybody win. 1.00

00:58:22.000 So the competitive instinct cannot go away. 1.00

00:58:25.000 As long as it's like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying their best.

00:58:29.000 So when they beat you, like, oh my god. 0.88

00:58:31.000 If they beat me at a game or something like that, like, goddammit.

00:58:34.000 They love it.

00:58:35.000 They love it.

00:58:36.000 I'm like, you got me.

00:58:37.000 But it's fun when they win.

00:58:38.000 It's fun when they beat you.

00:58:39.000 It's your child that's doing something really good.

00:58:41.000 How old are they now?

00:58:43.000 13 and 15, the youngest ones.

00:58:44.000 Okay.

00:58:45.000 And when they were...

00:58:46.000 Are there moments...

00:58:49.000 How old is your kid now?

00:58:50.000 Eight weeks.

00:58:51.000 Wow.

00:58:52.000 So yeah, I'm like, everybody I talk to goes, it goes by really fast.

00:58:56.000 That's the first thing they all say when I say aliens.

00:58:59.000 And what are the moments in this stretch that you wish that you kind of held on to longer or you didn't realize how amazing they were until they were gone?

00:59:08.000 I don't really think like that.

00:59:09.000 Nothing.

00:59:09.000 Okay.

00:59:10.000 I don't think like that.

00:59:11.000 I'm happy.

00:59:12.000 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 You know, and I'm happy they're healthy and I'm happy they're, you know, look, I have friends that have kids that have real problems, real health problems.

00:59:19.000 And it's the most heartbreaking, It's a devastating thing to see someone going through the real struggles of a kid that is your child that's all fucked up. 0.95

00:59:31.000 Number one was healthy. 0.98

00:59:33.000 Everybody was like, don't you want a boy?

00:59:35.000 I'm like, I want healthy kids.

00:59:36.000 I don't care if it's a girl or a boy.

00:59:38.000 I genuinely didn't care.

00:59:39.000 I just wanted them to be happy and healthy.

00:59:41.000 Well, you don't like girls?

00:59:43.000 Like, what are you saying?

00:59:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:44.000 You only want boys? 1.00

00:59:45.000 Plus, if I had boys, it would come with the added responsibility of training a psycho.

00:59:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:52.000 Because I'm assuming they're gonna be like a little me.

00:59:55.000 Yeah.

00:59:55.000 And like, if I didn't find martial arts, I would have been a real problem.

00:59:59.000 Wait, what do you mean?

01:00:00.000 If I didn't find some outlet, some competitive, like, dangerous outlet to test me as a man, I was an angry kid, man.

01:00:10.000 It's not good to grow up a boy and be an angry boy and not have an outlet.

01:00:16.000 You won't have control of it.

01:00:18.000 But why do you think you were angry?

01:00:19.000 I think a lot of it is genetic.

01:00:21.000 Really?

01:00:22.000 Yeah, I think a lot of people, what's inside of them is genetic, it's learned experiences, being around violence when I was young.

01:00:30.000 There's quite a few things that I think are attached to it, but I think there's some part of it that's genetic.

01:00:36.000 There's some part of drive, I think, that's genetic, too, which is interesting when you see your kids have it.

01:00:42.000 Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple kids, and they can see it in some, and others, they just don't really see it.

01:00:47.000 It's out of the box.

01:00:49.000 They're different.

01:00:49.000 Yeah.

01:00:51.000 Like, my 15-year-old is, like, hyper-focused on things, hyper-focused on athletics, hyper-focused, but also very loved.

01:01:00.000 Like, doesn't have this desire to prove herself like I had.

01:01:03.000 I was like, I'm not a loser.

01:01:04.000 I'm going to show everybody that I'm not a loser.

01:01:08.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 That was like my drive as a kid.

01:01:10.000 And martial arts was the first thing that I ever did.

01:01:13.000 Where I was like, hey, I'm not a loser.

01:01:15.000 But it's also the most humbling thing.

01:01:16.000 Oh, the most humbling.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, the most humbling.

01:01:18.000 But I got good at it quick.

01:01:20.000 I was very lucky.

01:01:21.000 But there's always someone better.

01:01:23.000 I don't know.

01:01:23.000 But I got lucky that I was going into it at the right time.

01:01:26.000 I had some athletic experience.

01:01:27.000 I had wrestled.

01:01:30.000 I'd done baseball.

01:01:31.000 I'd played some sports.

01:01:32.000 I wasn't totally inept.

01:01:34.000 When I played baseball, I was so selfish, I would never try to get on first. 1.00

01:01:39.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:01:40.000 Home run or I strike out. 1.00

01:01:44.000 And they would always tell me, just get on base.

01:01:46.000 I'm like, right. 1.00

01:01:47.000 And I'd get up there, I don't give a fuck what you just said. 1.00

01:01:49.000 When that ball's coming, I'm either going to be a loser or a hero. 1.00

01:01:53.000 Let's go.

01:01:54.000 A hundred percent.

01:01:55.000 I never did not try to hit a home run.

01:01:57.000 And they would always be mad at me.

01:01:59.000 Because I could hit home runs, but I could also strike out.

01:02:02.000 I struck out a lot. 0.99

01:02:04.000 But if I connected, I had some fucking crank. 0.99

01:02:07.000 I sent that ball flying and I loved it. 0.99

01:02:10.000 I loved watching that ball fly over the fence.

01:02:13.000 I am never not going to do that.

01:02:14.000 If you tell me, just bunt. 1.00

01:02:16.000 Suck my dick. 1.00

01:02:18.000 I'm not bunting. 1.00

01:02:19.000 I don't give a fuck if we lose. 0.99

01:02:21.000 I don't care. 0.99

01:02:22.000 That's why you can't do the team sports.

01:02:24.000 That's why it has to be the one-on-one.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, I'm not interested.

01:02:27.000 We lost because Billy dropped the ball. 1.00

01:02:28.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:02:29.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:02:30.000 I know what I can do.

01:02:31.000 Interesting.

01:02:32.000 It's my time at bat.

01:02:33.000 I'm hitting home runs.

01:02:35.000 Interesting.

01:02:35.000 So when I found that there was martial arts.

01:02:38.000 Or bow hunting.

01:02:39.000 Yeah, just me only.

01:02:39.000 I'm going for the home run every time.

01:02:40.000 It's just me.

01:02:41.000 And I can get better based entirely on how much effort I put into it.

01:02:45.000 Then I just became obsessed.

01:02:47.000 But you still love the camaraderie.

01:02:49.000 I love the camaraderie.

01:02:50.000 But you learn from the other people that are also doing the thing.

01:02:53.000 I wasn't competitive with them where I had to be better than them.

01:02:57.000 I wanted to be better than the people I was competing against and they helped me to get better.

01:03:02.000 These are who?

01:03:03.000 These are the people I train with.

01:03:04.000 Okay.

01:03:04.000 Yeah, those are family.

01:03:06.000 I'm still very good friends with one of my guys that I trained with back then.

01:03:09.000 I talk to him all the time.

01:03:11.000 I've known him since I was 52 guys, two of those guys.

01:03:14.000 I've known him since I was 15 years old.

01:03:15.000 One of them is just out here to visit.

01:03:17.000 It's funny that you see it even in martial arts.

01:03:19.000 When a guy wins, the first thing he does is often compliment his coaches and his team.

01:03:23.000 100%.

01:03:23.000 You're everything.

01:03:24.000 We need that.

01:03:25.000 We need that shared victory.

01:03:27.000 I've always got that in team sports.

01:03:28.000 I love that.

01:03:29.000 A team win, me and four other guys playing basketball, when we're not as talented as the other team, And you win.

01:03:35.000 But we win?

01:03:35.000 Yes!

01:03:36.000 Just going out for beers afterwards, talking about our... 0.99

01:03:39.000 I mean, we're old fucking guys. 0.98

01:03:40.000 But that's more of a cooperative thing than being at bat. 0.99

01:03:44.000 That's what I like.

01:03:44.000 The thing about being at bat, though, is like, uh-uh.

01:03:47.000 This is just me.

01:03:49.000 You're like, I'm not passing the ball.

01:03:50.000 Look, if I could pass the ball over to you, and you're open, and you can get a clean shot, I would 100% do that if I was playing team sports.

01:03:56.000 I wouldn't be greedy like that.

01:03:58.000 But baseball?

01:03:59.000 Yeah, you're going for it.

01:04:00.000 It's just me!

01:04:02.000 Yeah, you're going for it.

01:04:02.000 That ball's coming!

01:04:06.000 We only need a single, Joe.

01:04:09.000 Because they would always get mad at me.

01:04:10.000 I had this one coach that was very strategic, always trying to win.

01:04:13.000 And he knew that if he put me up there, I was cranking that ball.

01:04:20.000 But it just wasn't designed for baseball.

01:04:23.000 But that's you in life, though.

01:04:24.000 Right.

01:04:24.000 But if I could figure out something where I would be 100% of my own, you know, when I got in there, like fighting, it's 100% just you or comedy.

01:04:33.000 You built this team, you built all these friends, this community, but when you're on stage, it's just you.

01:04:38.000 It's all you.

01:04:39.000 It has to be you.

01:04:40.000 Yeah.

01:04:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:42.000 But those people also help you get better.

01:04:44.000 Like when I'm doing shows and Shane Gillis is on the show and Ron White and Brian Simpson.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, you put strong eyes on them, man.

01:04:52.000 And I would go on stage an hour and a half into that.

01:04:54.000 Dude, how funny is Derek, man?

01:04:55.000 Derek is so good.

01:04:56.000 Derek has grown so much.

01:04:57.000 He's grown so much and being at the club like he's doing so many sets.

01:05:02.000 He's so grateful. 0.95

01:05:03.000 He's going little boy, fat man. 0.80

01:05:04.000 He's going back and forth to the rooms. 0.54

01:05:06.000 He's doing all these sets on the road with you.

01:05:09.000 And he's a true like team guy like he comes from sports in that way like he's like he wants the show to be great.

01:05:15.000 Yes.

01:05:15.000 He's a great human being.

01:05:17.000 He's a fucking great dude. 1.00

01:05:18.000 He's a gem of a human being. 0.99

01:05:19.000 And a happy, sweetheart of a guy.

01:05:22.000 Everybody loves Derek.

01:05:22.000 He's so grateful for you, man.

01:05:24.000 I'm grateful for him.

01:05:24.000 And just the club and the experience.

01:05:26.000 Well, he was one of the first guys to take a chance.

01:05:28.000 I know.

01:05:28.000 To come out here.

01:05:29.000 Yeah.

01:05:30.000 You know, he's like, I'm with you, Joe.

01:05:31.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 I'm like, alright, let's do it.

01:05:32.000 And he is. 1.00

01:05:32.000 Like, if he says that, he means that shit. 1.00

01:05:34.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:05:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:34.000 And watching him grow, dude, like... 1.00

01:05:36.000 But he knew also, when I told him I was going to do it, I'm like, we're going to do this.

01:05:40.000 We're going to do this.

01:05:41.000 It's going to be the greatest club in the world.

01:05:42.000 Which is a crazy thing to say.

01:05:44.000 To pop up a scene in the middle of Texas.

01:05:48.000 But we did it.

01:05:49.000 It's insane.

01:05:50.000 But we did it because of guys like Derek.

01:05:52.000 Guys like Hassan and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe.

01:05:54.000 Those guys who moved here early.

01:05:56.000 Tom Segura moved here early.

01:05:58.000 When he says, I'm in. 0.99

01:05:59.000 When Tom Segura said I was in early on, I was like, oh shit, this is happening. 0.99

01:06:03.000 Because Tom did it Early in the pandemic. 0.99

01:06:06.000 I bought this house.

01:06:08.000 I sent him a video from my backyard.

01:06:09.000 I go, boys, what are you doing? 1.00

01:06:11.000 Get the fuck out of there. 1.00

01:06:12.000 Get the fuck out of L.A. It's on fire. 1.00

01:06:14.000 I go, no one here has a mask on. 1.00

01:06:16.000 I go, I think this is bullshit. 0.99

01:06:17.000 Come down. 0.99

01:06:18.000 Let's have a good time.

01:06:20.000 Let's hang out.

01:06:21.000 And Tom was like, I'm in.

01:06:22.000 He came out here early.

01:06:24.000 That means a lot to you, I felt.

01:06:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:26.000 Yeah, because it was a crazy chance I was asking people to take.

01:06:29.000 It wasn't just, I'm going to open up a club in Pasadena.

01:06:32.000 It wasn't like I bought the Ice House.

01:06:34.000 If I bought the Ice House, and the Ice House was for sale for a while, and Jerry Buss bought it, right?

01:06:40.000 Owner of the Lakers or whatever?

01:06:41.000 And they redid it, and I'm super happy that they did that, because it's an amazing club, and I love that place.

01:06:45.000 But at one point in time, I was thinking about buying the Ice House.

01:06:49.000 I remember you telling me that.

01:06:50.000 I was like, maybe I just buy that place.

01:06:51.000 But if I ask guys to come to the Ice House, that's easy.

01:06:54.000 That's a 20-minute drive.

01:06:56.000 No sacrifice.

01:06:56.000 You stay in your same house.

01:06:58.000 It had to be all those factors happening at the same time.

01:07:01.000 It had to be COVID. It had to be this weird way that they were governing these cities and that they weren't doing it in other parts of the country, particularly Florida and here.

01:07:11.000 And also that you couldn't do stand-up.

01:07:13.000 You couldn't do any stand-up in LA. They were stopping outside stand-up at the comedy store in the parking lot.

01:07:19.000 They wouldn't let them do comedy outside.

01:07:22.000 It didn't make any sense.

01:07:23.000 It was all crazy.

01:07:24.000 And it was going on forever.

01:07:26.000 And we were out here doing shows.

01:07:28.000 And we were putting it up on Instagram and everyone was like, this is crazy! 1.00

01:07:31.000 These motherfuckers are doing shows! 1.00

01:07:34.000 And we first started doing live shows indoors in November of 2020. And it felt so wrong. 1.00

01:07:41.000 It's like, what are we doing?

01:07:43.000 I did one weekend out here in July of 2020. And I decided after it that I couldn't do it anymore.

01:07:50.000 I didn't get sick, but I was like, but what if I did?

01:07:52.000 And what if I gave it to someone?

01:07:53.000 And what if that person died?

01:07:54.000 Like, what if I gave it to a guest?

01:07:56.000 You felt a responsibility.

01:07:57.000 I was terrified.

01:07:58.000 Yeah.

01:07:58.000 Because I feel like I would never forgive myself if I had some wonderful, sweet scientist as a guest and I gave that person COVID and they wound up dying because I was so selfish that I had to go on the road and do stand-up.

01:08:10.000 This is the empathy thing.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, so I was like, I can't do that.

01:08:12.000 You're not a sociopath.

01:08:13.000 Well, it's also just...

01:08:14.000 You're not good for the CIA, Joe.

01:08:15.000 I'm terrible for the CIA. I'll be terrible.

01:08:17.000 I'll be good if you get me in that UFO program, though.

01:08:19.000 I'll keep my mouth shut.

01:08:20.000 Wait, wait, what is this UFO? Get me in the UFO. Show me what you got!

01:08:23.000 Show me what you got, I won't tell anybody.

01:08:25.000 Do you think they got something?

01:08:26.000 I'll be a disinformation agent for you.

01:08:30.000 You just want to know.

01:08:31.000 I will say whatever you need.

01:08:34.000 Now, here's the question.

01:08:36.000 Hold on.

01:08:37.000 What if they say to you, Joe, you can take the UFO for a spin, but don't floor it.

01:08:42.000 You can bunt in the UFO. I would listen because I don't want to turn to jelly.

01:08:48.000 If you're going faster than your body can tolerate it...

01:08:51.000 What if they said there's no way that you can die in this machine?

01:08:53.000 It's built in a way where you cannot die, but we're asking you to bunt. 1.00

01:08:57.000 I would bunt.

01:08:58.000 You'd have to bunt. 0.98

01:08:59.000 You'd have to bunt because you're going to have to come back to the ground.

01:09:03.000 You're going to have to land that thing. 0.98

01:09:04.000 They're going to kill you. 0.99

01:09:05.000 All right, fair enough. 1.00

01:09:05.000 They're going to fucking put you on an airplane with one of fucking Putin's boys. 1.00

01:09:10.000 You're going to get blown up over the Adriatic Sea. 1.00

01:09:13.000 Listen, man, no.

01:09:15.000 If they get you in the UFO, first of all, I wouldn't ask to pilot it.

01:09:19.000 I'd just take it for a spin. 0.99

01:09:21.000 Show me what the fuck this thing does. 1.00

01:09:22.000 Where did it come from? 1.00

01:09:23.000 Where did it come from?

01:09:24.000 And then I say, okay, so what do I tell them?

01:09:28.000 China? 0.73

01:09:29.000 I'll tell them China. 1.00

01:09:30.000 It's fucking Chinese, man. 1.00

01:09:32.000 Chinese are super advanced. 1.00

01:09:33.000 That's the last thing for you?

01:09:34.000 It's UFO? Once you feel that?

01:09:37.000 Well, it would suck to go to your grave and not know.

01:09:40.000 Because it seems like something for...

01:09:43.000 It's not what I thought when I was young. 0.63

01:09:46.000 When I was young, I thought UFOs are probably real, but a lot of these stories are bullshit, and I don't even know if UFOs actually are real, or if people are just liars, or if it's something that we want to believe because of science fiction, Orson Welles, 0.72

01:10:01.000 and all that stuff. 0.82

01:10:03.000 But now I don't think that anymore.

01:10:05.000 Now I think, because of talking to guys...

01:10:07.000 Well, you and I went to dinner with Bob Lazar before he did the podcast, which was...

01:10:11.000 How fascinating was that?

01:10:12.000 I always tell people, I believe he believes it.

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 That doesn't mean that it exists, but I don't think he's a liar.

01:10:22.000 I don't think he's a liar either, but I don't know, because some people are really good at that shit. 0.99

01:10:27.000 Again, I'm just going off of like... 0.99

01:10:29.000 The vibe.

01:10:29.000 Just the vibe that I got.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, but the vibe is hard because you want to believe.

01:10:34.000 He felt like he didn't want to be in there, Joe.

01:10:35.000 I remember at the dinner, he's like, listen, I'm not here to prove it.

01:10:37.000 I don't even need to do it.

01:10:38.000 I don't like doing this.

01:10:39.000 It hurts my life.

01:10:40.000 He said all the maybe the right things, but he didn't come across as so charismatic.

01:10:44.000 Like, usually people who are really good at lying are very charismatic.

01:10:47.000 Also, they lie about other stuff, too.

01:10:50.000 Yeah.

01:10:50.000 I mean, I didn't know enough about him to say, but he didn't have the charisma of someone that could trick and manipulate me.

01:10:56.000 He came across as pretty authentic and almost kind of rattled by the whole experience.

01:11:00.000 It almost felt traumatic when he was talking about it.

01:11:03.000 Yeah.

01:11:03.000 It did.

01:11:04.000 Well, he told us something, too, that made a lot more sense, because one of the things that he's criticized about Is his education background.

01:11:11.000 He said he went to MIT. But he said there's no record of him at MIT. He's like, yeah, because there wasn't a record of me at MIT because I was involved in a program that you can't really say.

01:11:20.000 We can't say what he was involved in.

01:11:23.000 But when you hear what they're involved, what they were actually working on, you go, oh, yeah, well, that's...

01:11:28.000 You're not even supposed to do that, so I would imagine that if you're gonna get educated in that, it's not important that you get a degree that shows that you learned it from these people.

01:11:37.000 What's important is you get the information that you need in order to implement this plan, which was wild.

01:11:43.000 And you hear that, but the thing about it is, The other things they try to disprove him on, he has shown that it was accurate.

01:11:49.000 One of them, that he worked at Los Alamos Labs.

01:11:51.000 So they said that he never worked there.

01:11:53.000 But he did work there.

01:11:54.000 He did work there.

01:11:54.000 He's on the employee roster.

01:11:56.000 So not only that, he had an intimate knowledge of the building.

01:12:00.000 When George Knapp went with him to Los Alamos Labs, he knew where everything was.

01:12:04.000 He knew the security guards.

01:12:06.000 He knew the system.

01:12:07.000 Who's George Knapp?

01:12:08.000 George Knapp is an investigative reporter that broke the story in 1989. And he's been on it ever since.

01:12:15.000 And he also does a podcast with Jeremy Corbell.

01:12:17.000 Yeah, I know Jeremy.

01:12:17.000 It's all about this phenomenon.

01:12:20.000 And George Knapp is one of the best journalists that's ever covered it.

01:12:23.000 Because he's, like, covered it from the beginning.

01:12:25.000 And he will tell you what he knows and what he doesn't know.

01:12:27.000 And he's not a bullshitter in any way, shape, or form.

01:12:29.000 He's a hard-nosed...

01:12:31.000 Facts-based journalist who was the first guy to talk to Lazar.

01:12:35.000 And Lazar talked to him because he thought they were going to kill him.

01:12:39.000 Because he had started bringing people to watch the test flights because he got fired.

01:12:45.000 He got released. 0.75

01:12:46.000 And the reason why he got released is when you're on top secret clearance, when you're working for the government and they fly you to Area 51 and you're doing fucking work on spaceships, you're not allowed to tell anybody, including your wife.

01:12:57.000 So he'd get a phone call like 11 p.m.

01:12:59.000 I gotta go to work.

01:13:00.000 And he would leave. 1.00

01:13:01.000 And the wife was like, this motherfucker's cheating on me. 1.00

01:13:03.000 So she starts having an affair. 1.00

01:13:06.000 So she starts having an affair.

01:13:08.000 Exactly.

01:13:09.000 So she starts having an affair and she starts having an affair and all their phones are tapped, of course.

01:13:13.000 But she doesn't know their phones are tapped because she doesn't know what he's doing.

01:13:17.000 Why would she?

01:13:17.000 Because he can't tell her what he's doing.

01:13:20.000 So she starts fucking this guy and then they're worried that he's going to be in a situation of emotional turmoil because his wife's having an effect. 0.97

01:13:28.000 So they don't share the information with him. 0.99

01:13:30.000 They just release him.

01:13:31.000 He's now fired. 0.99

01:13:33.000 So he's going back to his friends like, I'm working on fucking UFOs. 0.99

01:13:36.000 They have real UFOs. 0.99

01:13:38.000 They test them every Wednesday.

01:13:40.000 So he takes people out to Area 51 to an area that's restricted now.

01:13:45.000 But back then, before the Obama administration came along, in the Obama administration they expand the boundaries of Area 51. It was the first time they admitted Area 51 even existed.

01:13:53.000 So they had expanded because too many people were getting close enough to film things. 0.98

01:13:57.000 So these guys went out there and they filmed these fucking flying saucers flying around. 0.97

01:14:02.000 Is there video of this? 0.99

01:14:03.000 There's videos of the saucers.

01:14:05.000 There's videos of these things moving around in the desert.

01:14:08.000 See if you can find them.

01:14:09.000 This grainy Area 51 footage.

01:14:11.000 So they're doing these things where these vehicles are operating in a way conventional vehicles in 1989 were absolutely incapable of doing, as far as our understanding of it.

01:14:20.000 He gets arrested.

01:14:21.000 They catch him.

01:14:22.000 What are you doing?

01:14:23.000 And he says, he just spills the beans.

01:14:26.000 I got fired.

01:14:27.000 I wanted to let people know that this is real.

01:14:29.000 Now his life's in danger. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Now he's like, they're gonna fucking kill me. 0.99

01:14:32.000 So he contacts George Knapp and he's like, I think that if I just go public with this, I'll be too famous to be killed. 0.99

01:14:39.000 Right.

01:14:39.000 So initially he does it with his face hidden.

01:14:43.000 So the initial interviews he does with his face hidden.

01:14:45.000 He's like silhouetted.

01:14:47.000 And then he decides, I have to go public with all this.

01:14:50.000 So he does these interviews.

01:14:51.000 He's explaining everything.

01:14:52.000 He draws diagrams.

01:14:53.000 He explains this element that was only theoretical at that point.

01:14:57.000 It was element 115. They didn't find it and proof of it until they used a particle collider in like the 2000s.

01:15:06.000 I want to say...

01:15:06.000 Switzerland or whatever.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, I want to say like 2013-ish.

01:15:10.000 Okay.

01:15:10.000 So this is 1989. Wow.

01:15:14.000 This is Bob Lazar in 1989. Wow.

01:15:17.000 And this is him explaining all of the different stuff that he had to do there, where it is.

01:15:24.000 And by the way, at this point in time, this was all just legend.

01:15:28.000 No one knew if Area 51 was real.

01:15:30.000 And they had these hangers.

01:15:31.000 So these are these crafts that he brought people out to film.

01:15:35.000 He's like, these things, they move silently, they move with a gravity propulsion system that's operating off of this element, element 115. And this element 115, when hit with radioactive waves, It becomes this thing that can manipulate gravity with this generator that is in the center of these ships.

01:15:57.000 They don't have any controls.

01:15:58.000 Everything is controlled.

01:16:00.000 The human being, the alien creature, interfaces with this machine biologically or through some sort of- Neuralink.

01:16:09.000 They might not even be human at that point. 0.77

01:16:11.000 They might be Well, we're going to be some sort of a combination of artificial intelligence and biology or Strictly artificial intelligence at this point and these things interact with this craft and that's how it moves There's no like buttons you switch like alien and fucking joysticks like the Millennium Falcon. 0.69

01:16:30.000 There's none of that shit It's all done with the creature So he gets into this thing.

01:16:35.000 First of all, he realizes there's no seams. 0.98

01:16:37.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:16:38.000 Well, now we know what 3D printing is.

01:16:40.000 Now you know we can make a thing with no seams. 0.99

01:16:42.000 But back then, they don't know what the fuck it is. 0.96

01:16:46.000 And he realized right away, this is not ours. 0.99

01:16:49.000 When he first saw it, he thought, oh, now I know what all this UFO bullshit is about. 0.98

01:16:54.000 We have them. 0.98

01:16:55.000 It's ours.

01:16:55.000 We're working on this.

01:16:56.000 That makes sense.

01:16:57.000 And they actually had an American flag sticker on one of them.

01:16:59.000 They put an American flag sticker on one of the UFOs.

01:17:02.000 Which is smart.

01:17:02.000 Which is fun.

01:17:03.000 Yeah.

01:17:04.000 It's fun.

01:17:04.000 You want other people to think that's ours?

01:17:06.000 Yeah.

01:17:06.000 But then he gets in and he realizes it's designed for something that's three feet tall.

01:17:11.000 There's no seams.

01:17:12.000 There's no controls.

01:17:14.000 And it has this reactor in the center of it that defies anything we have any current understanding of.

01:17:22.000 In terms of what we believe is possible for propulsion systems, this is something completely alien.

01:17:28.000 And it involves a stable element that is only theoretical at this point.

01:17:33.000 They don't even know it exists.

01:17:34.000 They have a triangle, like a form of this stuff that's in the center of this.

01:17:41.000 See if you could find the video where he's describing The element...

01:17:46.000 The gravity generator.

01:17:47.000 But the element, that triangle thing you're talking about, is that the engine or is that essentially the gasoline?

01:17:53.000 That's the fuel.

01:17:53.000 Got it, got it, got it.

01:17:54.000 This thing, when bombarded with radiation, produces this...

01:17:58.000 I'm obviously butchering this.

01:18:00.000 But produces this...

01:18:01.000 See how he explains it.

01:18:03.000 Put the headphones on.

01:18:04.000 Powering the gravity amplifiers.

01:18:07.000 Do it from the beginning.

01:18:08.000 Here we go.

01:18:09.000 So it's the reactor here, powering the gravity amplifiers...

01:18:13.000 Gravity amplifiers output goes into the gravity emitters at the bottom and the resulting gravity beam or anti-gravity wave can be pretty much put anywhere you want to.

01:18:25.000 I had access and was permitted to view and look at the operation of this main level with the gravity amplifiers and the level below the gravity emitters.

01:18:38.000 People call these large black rectangular areas on the top portholes.

01:18:42.000 I believe they were some planar sensor array that just took in information from the surrounding area, whether it be patterns of stars or what have you.

01:18:54.000 So we got the shape right.

01:18:57.000 Like, the sci-fi people got the shape right.

01:18:59.000 Yeah, well, they knew about it a long time ago.

01:19:02.000 Kenneth Arnold saw Flying Saucers in the 1950s.

01:19:05.000 Who's that?

01:19:05.000 He was a pilot.

01:19:06.000 He was like one of the first... 0.99

01:19:07.000 See if you can see the Kenneth Arnold sightings.

01:19:10.000 It's one of the first reputable disclosures.

01:19:15.000 Because it was an American fighter pilot.

01:19:17.000 Right.

01:19:17.000 And he's seeing these things, and he's describing them as like Flying Saucers skipping...

01:19:21.000 And all of them, they started all happening...

01:19:24.000 That's what he said he saw.

01:19:25.000 They started seeing these things right after the bombs dropped.

01:19:30.000 That's when everything started really popping off in this country.

01:19:32.000 And why?

01:19:32.000 That's why the rooms in my club are named Fat Man and Little Boy.

01:19:36.000 They're named after the atomic bombs.

01:19:38.000 Because that's what started the whole UFO invasion.

01:19:43.000 Aliens see this huge explosion.

01:19:46.000 They're like, what are they doing?

01:19:46.000 What are they doing down there?

01:19:47.000 We gotta go check them out.

01:19:48.000 I think that kind of checks out.

01:19:50.000 That's what I would do.

01:19:51.000 If I was from another planet and I realized, oh, these territorial primates have just developed nuclear weapons and they're dropping them out of propeller planes on cities, yo! 0.77

01:20:02.000 We've got to check this out.

01:20:03.000 We've got to investigate.

01:20:04.000 These people are going loco.

01:20:05.000 For our safety, because they could come for us if they had this technology.

01:20:07.000 100%.

01:20:07.000 What if they've developed the ability to traverse the cosmos?

01:20:10.000 Bro, that's funny.

01:20:11.000 And then they see that we're just dropping them on each other and then they're like, eh, that'll be fine.

01:20:18.000 Depending on who you listen to.

01:20:20.000 See, one of the craziest things that Lazar talked about was that what human beings are, and what this planet is, is essentially a farm for souls.

01:20:29.000 And that there's some need for the essence of a life form, a soul.

01:20:37.000 Now, if you've created artificial intelligence, imagine if there's one hurdle that cannot be bypassed.

01:20:46.000 And that hurdle is a soul.

01:20:48.000 And that it's actually a real thing.

01:20:50.000 And it's a real, not just an energy, it's a type of matter, it's something.

01:20:58.000 It's something legitimate that creates an individual thing, a life form.

01:21:03.000 And these creatures, maybe they need souls.

01:21:07.000 So AI is not going to be sufficient?

01:21:09.000 I don't know, but this is the weirdest thing that he talked about.

01:21:12.000 He said that we're essentially a farm for souls.

01:21:14.000 But what does that mean?

01:21:16.000 Like, what do they need souls for?

01:21:18.000 But imagine if, like, there is, like, this process of existence, right?

01:21:22.000 So you have single-celled organisms that eventually become more advanced and become predator and prey.

01:21:29.000 And then you have this one intelligent, dominant form that starts figuring out tools, and that's the primates.

01:21:35.000 And over time, the primates evolve, and the primates get to the point where they've started using machines and internal combustion engines.

01:21:42.000 They're using propulsion.

01:21:44.000 They're using all these different things.

01:21:46.000 They're figuring out flight.

01:21:47.000 Then they're figuring out atomic energy and weapons.

01:21:49.000 And there's this transition that will continue.

01:21:52.000 And that transition will go into more and more advanced technology if they don't blow themselves up.

01:21:59.000 So, if what our natural evolution is, is to go from being Australopithecus, to go from being, you know, the cousin of the chimpanzee, to being what we are today, to being what we will be in the future, I think what we will be in the future is probably them.

01:22:16.000 When you see these aliens with these giant heads, these little spindly bodies and no genitals, we seem like we're on that path.

01:22:22.000 Like that seems like a natural path.

01:22:24.000 It doesn't seem like if Bigfoot was flying UFOs, you'd be like, why are we Bigfoot again?

01:22:28.000 I thought we passed that.

01:22:30.000 I thought we evolved past being hairy brutes and we became this thing that's like gentle and telepathic and it doesn't use any muscular force.

01:22:40.000 Everything is done through telekinesis.

01:22:42.000 The communication is telepathic.

01:22:45.000 The communication with the craft is telepathic.

01:22:48.000 Everything is done through this way of integration with technology, because they've become physically integrated.

01:22:55.000 They might not even be biological anymore, but they might still need souls.

01:23:00.000 Soul might be a force.

01:23:02.000 It might be a thing that's necessary for the cultivation of another version of us on another planet.

01:23:09.000 If this is a process, just like a garden, Right?

01:23:12.000 Where you have the soil, you till the soil, you fertilize it, you plant the seeds, you water it, they grow, the crops grow, and then you harvest them. 0.92

01:23:21.000 If this is a process, and that's what human beings are, just like you have a fucking elk farm in New Zealand, and that's how you get tenderloins. 0.94

01:23:30.000 It's a process. 0.97

01:23:32.000 Like, you have to do all these things to get this result.

01:23:35.000 What if we're a farm for souls?

01:23:37.000 But who's farming us?

01:23:39.000 Advanced life forms.

01:23:40.000 So they need our souls for something.

01:23:42.000 It's an energy source for them in some way. 0.98

01:23:44.000 It sounds so ridiculous. 0.90

01:23:45.000 No, no, let's go on. 0.99

01:23:45.000 But it sounds ridiculous even as I'm saying it and as you're repeating it. 0.99

01:23:48.000 Like, they need us for souls. 0.92

01:23:50.000 It sounds like some L. Ron Hubbard science fiction.

01:23:52.000 No, but to me that makes sense why they would be concerned about the nuclear bombs is because if we destroy ourselves, they no longer have these souls.

01:24:00.000 We kill the farm.

01:24:00.000 Exactly.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, we kill the farm.

01:24:01.000 Right now the farm's doing great.

01:24:03.000 There's more people than ever.

01:24:04.000 That's what we like.

01:24:05.000 As long as we don't have a massive depopulation event like a nuclear war.

01:24:09.000 Yeah.

01:24:10.000 And that makes sense that it would, you know, catch their attention.

01:24:12.000 They'd come in, they'd be like, yeah, yeah, we got to kind of shut this thing down or at least...

01:24:15.000 If we are really the product of accelerated evolution, which is much speculized...

01:24:20.000 What does that mean?

01:24:20.000 We're the product of accelerated...

01:24:21.000 Accelerated evolution.

01:24:22.000 Which, like, look...

01:24:24.000 We are very, very, very, very, very different from everything else on this planet by a long stretch.

01:24:30.000 Not by a couple of years, by a long stretch.

01:24:33.000 You know, by every other primate, the best they can do is use a stick to get termites, right?

01:24:38.000 You know, oh, well, one thing is orangutan spearfish.

01:24:42.000 Oh, they're making weapons.

01:24:43.000 They figured out how to spearfish.

01:24:45.000 And they learned it from us, apparently.

01:24:46.000 Yeah.

01:24:47.000 But they can do that.

01:24:48.000 Orangutans use tools.

01:24:49.000 But isn't there a theory that now they're at a different level in the evolutionary chart?

01:24:54.000 Yeah, the current understanding is that they have begun the Stone Age.

01:24:58.000 Yeah.

01:24:59.000 Kind of cool to see it happen.

01:25:00.000 It's crazy to see it happen.

01:25:01.000 Have you ever seen the orangutan spearfishing?

01:25:03.000 No, no.

01:25:03.000 You guys see this picture?

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:04.000 Jamie, pull it.

01:25:05.000 It's bananas.

01:25:06.000 This orangutan is stabbing fish while hanging from a tree like this.

01:25:10.000 He's like stabbing fish with one arm.

01:25:12.000 Yeah.

01:25:13.000 Yeah, they figured out how to use tools.

01:25:15.000 Whoa, this is actually interesting.

01:25:16.000 So if we're watching them in their Stone Age, it's completely plausible that some other life form is watching us in our advanced state of evolution.

01:25:26.000 Look at that dude. 0.99

01:25:28.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:25:29.000 Isn't that wild? 0.99

01:25:29.000 Homeboy spear-fishing, hanging out with his feet and one arm. 0.99

01:25:33.000 Wow.

01:25:35.000 I mean, it's nuts, man. 1.00

01:25:37.000 It's fucking nuts. 1.00

01:25:39.000 Wow. 1.00

01:25:40.000 He observed local fishermen do it, and he figured out how to do it himself. 1.00

01:25:43.000 Pretty fucking crazy, man. 0.99

01:25:45.000 Wow. 1.00

01:25:46.000 Pretty dope. 0.94

01:25:47.000 He's probably the kink pimp of all of the orangutans. 1.00

01:25:50.000 100%.

01:25:50.000 Yeah, he's the dude who figured it out.

01:25:52.000 They're probably all like, whoa, this guy's a wizard.

01:25:55.000 He gets fish.

01:25:58.000 Oh, there's a video of it?

01:26:00.000 I was hoping there was, but I started... 1.00

01:26:02.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:26:02.000 Fucking crazy. 1.00

01:26:04.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:26:05.000 So...

01:26:05.000 I could believe that.

01:26:07.000 I could subscribe to that.

01:26:08.000 Things evolve.

01:26:09.000 If you left them alone like that, spearfishing, for 500,000 years, a million years, who knows?

01:26:15.000 They'd probably look like cavemen. 0.74

01:26:17.000 Yeah.

01:26:18.000 I bet eventually they look like cavemen, depending upon what is causing...

01:26:22.000 This advancement and how quickly.

01:26:24.000 So that's the mushroom question.

01:26:26.000 So that's the stoned ape theory.

01:26:28.000 Terence McKenna believed that it had a lot to do with the consumption of psilocybin mushrooms.

01:26:34.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 Now, is the psilocybin mushrooms what?

01:26:37.000 It allows you to...

01:26:39.000 To solve problems in an outside-of-the-box way.

01:26:42.000 What kind of a competitive advantage?

01:26:43.000 Formation of language through glossolalia.

01:26:46.000 Glossolalia is like you start associating sounds with objects and language.

01:26:51.000 The formulation of language, then psilocybin would aid in that.

01:26:54.000 Aid in creativity, aid in visual acuity.

01:26:57.000 They've done studies where they showed that people under doses of psilocybin detect edges quicker.

01:27:04.000 So if you have two lines that are parallel lines, if you deviate one even slightly, people on psilocybin notice it quicker than people that aren't on psilocybin.

01:27:13.000 So it increases visual acuity.

01:27:15.000 It makes people hornier, so it makes people more likely to breed.

01:27:18.000 It makes you a better hunter because it increases your visual acuity.

01:27:22.000 You're understanding a space, probably you're more tuned in and more sensitive to things.

01:27:25.000 Okay.

01:27:26.000 You know, there's a lot of folks out there microdosing on mushrooms and it helps them do a lot of things.

01:27:31.000 Snowboarders...

01:27:31.000 Could AI... Could AI for us be what mushrooms were for these primates?

01:27:41.000 But times a billion.

01:27:42.000 Exactly.

01:27:43.000 So that's where you see that next leap.

01:27:45.000 So mushrooms come around, the apes start using tools, doing whatever they want, and then now you accelerate evolution. 0.73

01:27:50.000 Well, the mushrooms probably are the seed for artificial intelligence because the mushrooms give you the creativity to start doing wild things in the first place, which always leads to technology, which leads to a life form.

01:28:01.000 And now with AI, you have that with exponential growth.

01:28:04.000 Exactly.

01:28:04.000 So they're solving millions and trillions of problems in a minute that would take us- Not only that, they can make a better version of themselves.

01:28:11.000 Once they become sentient, then they become God, because they make better versions of themselves with no end in sight.

01:28:17.000 So if you have an artificial intelligence that's as intelligent as every human being on Earth combined, which is essentially what they think is going to happen, when you get that, it has all the knowledge of all human beings.

01:28:31.000 Then he's going to find the flaws in all of our methods.

01:28:33.000 And then it's going to be using quantum computing.

01:28:36.000 So it's going to have the type of computing power That's, who knows, a million, a hundred million times what we have today.

01:28:43.000 And then it's going to develop better versions of quantum computing.

01:28:46.000 It's going to develop better methods of extracting energy from all sorts of different resources.

01:28:51.000 It's not going to need lithium, ion.

01:28:52.000 This is where the graph goes vertical.

01:28:54.000 It just goes straight up and it never stops.

01:28:57.000 It's going to harness the very power of the universe itself.

01:29:00.000 It literally can become a god.

01:29:02.000 If you just keep going, if artificial intelligence is allowed to keep exponentially growing and it gets past being far more intelligent, how many more steps is it until it's Dr. Manhattan?

01:29:14.000 Is it a week?

01:29:15.000 Is it a month?

01:29:16.000 Is it a year?

01:29:17.000 Whatever it is, it's going there.

01:29:19.000 It's going to get to a point where it can time travel.

01:29:21.000 It's going to get to a point where it can show up on other planets instantaneously.

01:29:25.000 It's going to get to a point where it can harness all the available power in the universe itself and use it and manipulate it and figure out how to create it.

01:29:36.000 It might be able to create new universes. 0.79

01:29:39.000 If a universe is created, if a Big Bang exists, if there is a singularity, if there is a moment where there's some thing that's infinitely small...

01:29:49.000 Why wouldn't it be able to create the exact same thing?

01:29:52.000 Why wouldn't it be?

01:29:52.000 If it can be done, if it can be created, if it is a thing, if it is a thing that's dependent upon the forces of the universe itself...

01:30:00.000 In a deep understanding of those forces, an understanding of those forces in the quantum level, the subatomic level, at everything – look, at the subatomic level, everything is magic, right?

01:30:13.000 You know, particles in superposition are both moving and stable at the same time.

01:30:18.000 The laws of physics don't apply to the subatomic realm.

01:30:20.000 It's magic.

01:30:20.000 It becomes magic.

01:30:21.000 Got it, got it, got it.

01:30:22.000 Most of atoms are empty space. 0.99

01:30:23.000 We don't even understand what the fuck is going on.

01:30:26.000 We know that particles communicate instantaneously with other particles that are nowhere near them, miles away. 0.94

01:30:32.000 There are two places at the same time.

01:30:34.000 They're intertwined in some strange way that we don't understand.

01:30:38.000 If something becomes so advanced that it has control over those forces and it utilizes all of those forces, And it literally has a complete understanding of everything that's happening at every given time in the entire universe.

01:30:58.000 So this could potentially happen in our lifetime, right?

01:31:01.000 Let's say.

01:31:02.000 If it doesn't, it's going to happen in our kids' lifetimes if our kids make it.

01:31:05.000 But think about it.

01:31:05.000 If it happens in our lifetime, our generation...

01:31:10.000 We'll have lived before the internet, the internet, and singularity?

01:31:16.000 Yeah, the singularity.

01:31:17.000 What a crazy existence.

01:31:19.000 2045 is what Kurzweil believes.

01:31:21.000 Imagine we lived through all of that.

01:31:24.000 Imagine we lived through the time where I couldn't get in touch with you unless you were home and could hear your phone. 0.99

01:31:30.000 And we could also live in a time where I could instantaneously be at your fucking house. 0.99

01:31:35.000 Yeah, in the same life. 0.99

01:31:38.000 Yeah, we're probably the civilization, our time period, that's experienced the most radical change.

01:31:46.000 Other than, like, obviously wars, nuclear bombs, things like that.

01:31:51.000 That's pretty radical change.

01:31:52.000 But globally, the most radical change in terms of how the culture communicates with itself.

01:31:57.000 Whoa.

01:31:58.000 With the access to information, what's true and what's not true.

01:32:02.000 There's never been a time like this.

01:32:05.000 Who's leading the AI research in the world right now?

01:32:07.000 Well, there's quite a few different companies that are competing.

01:32:09.000 There's the Google AI that got shut down.

01:32:11.000 United States supposedly is in the lead, but how would we know?

01:32:15.000 China's probably there, I imagine.

01:32:17.000 They'll be the first to hit that switch.

01:32:19.000 Why?

01:32:19.000 Because they just don't have to say it.

01:32:20.000 They don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:32:21.000 That is the advantage of not giving a fuck. 1.00

01:32:23.000 Not giving a fuck and having a dictatorship. 1.00

01:32:26.000 Yeah, with a singular goal. 0.98

01:32:27.000 And also, a country, like, you have to respect the history of China.

01:32:32.000 China has thrived economically for 4,000 years.

01:32:37.000 Yeah, they kept it all together.

01:32:38.000 China has a temple of their first emperor, where they are afraid to enter it.

01:32:44.000 Because apparently he booby-trapped it with so much mercury that you open the doors, it'll just flood everyone with mercury.

01:32:53.000 He created some crazy booby trap and all the ground around that area tests very high in levels of mercury.

01:33:00.000 So they think some of it is like seeping into the ground.

01:33:03.000 So they think it's true.

01:33:04.000 So this is the guy that had the terracotta statues that are guarding...

01:33:08.000 That are underwater?

01:33:08.000 No, it was all underground.

01:33:09.000 It was all buried.

01:33:11.000 So he had this temple that's underground that is probably filled with who knows how many priceless artifacts and people are afraid to open it.

01:33:23.000 This is the first emperor of China.

01:33:24.000 Google the first emperor of China.

01:33:28.000 Bro, they can't open the temple.

01:33:32.000 They want to go in and see it, but they're afraid it's booby-trapped with mercury. 0.98

01:33:37.000 Like, how much fucking mercury would you have to have? 0.97

01:33:40.000 And how long ago are we talking about? 0.98

01:33:41.000 Like, 94 BC. What year was it, Jamie?

01:33:44.000 Wow, 94 BC. Wow.

01:33:48.000 This is the booby trap legend circa 94 BC. I don't know how to say his name.

01:33:53.000 Sima Kwan wrote a clear and illuminated description of what lies beneath the 51.3 meter high mound in his famous work, the Shijit.

01:34:04.000 In the ninth month, the first emperor was buried at Mount Lee.

01:34:09.000 When the first emperor had just come to the throne, excavations and building work had taken place at Mount Lee.

01:34:14.000 But when he unified all under heaven, convicts to the number of more than 700,000 were sent there from all over the empire.

01:34:21.000 They dug through the three springs and poured down molten bronze to make the outer coffin and replicates of palaces, pavilions, all the various officials and wonderful vessels and other rare objects were brought up to the tomb, which was then filled with them.

01:34:37.000 Craftsmen were ordered to make crossbows and arrows which would operate automatically so that anyone who approached what had been excavated was immediately shot.

01:34:46.000 Quicksilver, mercury, was used to represent the various waterways, the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers, and the Great Sea, being made by some mechanisms to flow into each other, and above were arranged the heavenly constellations, and below was the layout of the land.

01:35:02.000 Candles were made out of whale fat, Alternative literal translations mermaid ointment.

01:35:07.000 Wow.

01:35:08.000 Or man fish oil. 0.99

01:35:10.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.99

01:35:11.000 Human oil probably from burned people's fat. 0.99

01:35:15.000 For it was reckoned that it would be a long time before they were extinguished.

01:35:19.000 The second generation said...

01:35:22.000 It would not be right that any of the previous emperor's concubine should emerge from this place unless she has a son.

01:35:28.000 They were all ordered to accompany him to death.

01:35:30.000 And those who died were extremely numerous.

01:35:33.000 After the burial had taken place, someone mentioned the fact that the workers and craftsmen who had constructed the mechanical devices would know about all the buried treasures.

01:35:42.000 And the importance of the treasures would immediately be disclosed.

01:35:45.000 Consequently, when the great occasion was finished and after the treasures had been hidden away, the main entranceway to the tomb was shut off and the outer gates lowered so that all the workers and craftsmen who had buried the treasure were shut in and there were none who came out again and the vegetation and trees were planted to make it look like a hill.

01:36:04.000 So they killed 700,000 workers?

01:36:08.000 Is that what they're saying? 1.00

01:36:11.000 Holy shit. 0.98

01:36:12.000 Thus we find the source of the legends we know today, but Seema Kwan wrote in his description 123 years after the death of Shi Huang. 0.98

01:36:20.000 Could his fantasy-like account of the mermaid ointment, probably whale oil, flowing rivers of mercury, 700,000 laborers, crossbow booby traps, and buried alive workers be credible?

01:36:29.000 Or is he just writing for effect?

01:36:32.000 Can we trust the descriptions?

01:36:35.000 Jesus.

01:36:36.000 Says that one of the camps historian celebrates the trustworthiness of Sima Quan by emphasizing the extreme care which Sima Quan gathered and weighed available evidence in an attempt to convey an objective portrait of the Chinese past.

01:36:48.000 Other camps are more skeptical, stressing there were intensely personal motivations that prompted Simi Kwan's decision to complete masterwork of history begun by his father.

01:37:02.000 The more suspicious camp accuses Kwan of exaggerating his accounts by being too much of a lyrical romanticist, too religious to convey an accurate depiction of history.

01:37:14.000 But either way, they found mercury all around that area, and they still have not opened it.

01:37:21.000 They're still worried.

01:37:22.000 This is like thousands of years later.

01:37:23.000 Has China ever been fractured?

01:37:26.000 Like in the way that Europe is fractured?

01:37:29.000 Or even the Roman Empire had this large swath of land in control, and then it's been broken up.

01:37:37.000 China seems like this massive land mass with all these people for a very long period of time.

01:37:43.000 How do you maintain that?

01:37:44.000 That's the way they do it.

01:37:46.000 I mean, it's kind of impressive.

01:37:48.000 It's unbelievably impressive.

01:37:49.000 It's very impressive.

01:37:50.000 It's very impressive that they've been around for 4,000 years and that they've done this.

01:37:54.000 And what is maintaining that?

01:37:56.000 Power.

01:37:57.000 But what?

01:37:57.000 Is it just fear?

01:37:58.000 Is it religion?

01:37:59.000 It's fear.

01:38:00.000 I don't think that they're very religious, right?

01:38:02.000 No.

01:38:03.000 At least now they're not.

01:38:04.000 Well, they definitely shun other religions like the Uyghurs. 1.00

01:38:07.000 I think they shun all because it is a threat to the power.

01:38:11.000 Right.

01:38:11.000 It's about the state.

01:38:12.000 But to maintain that identity, to maintain a cultural identity for 4,000 years.

01:38:19.000 Uh-huh.

01:38:21.000 Wow.

01:38:25.000 How do you do that?

01:38:28.000 You do it by playing 4D chess.

01:38:30.000 That's for sure.

01:38:32.000 Yeah.

01:38:32.000 They're definitely doing that.

01:38:34.000 I mean, the involvement in our education institutions, buying up American farmland.

01:38:40.000 What do you think about that?

01:38:40.000 Like, they're clearly playing a different game.

01:38:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:44.000 They're playing an influence game.

01:38:44.000 Much more sophisticated game.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, and they're using, I think, capitalism against us.

01:38:50.000 And I think that's something that we gotta be a little bit more aware of.

01:38:53.000 Like, capitalism is an amazing system, but it's amazing when you're the richest country.

01:38:58.000 When there are other countries with wealth, they can start buying things, and they can start implementing their influence.

01:39:03.000 When they hold the carrot, right?

01:39:04.000 Like, that's the scary thing.

01:39:06.000 You can change culture without even telling people to change.

01:39:10.000 When you know that China buys 10 movies, and they have to be made with these specifications, right?

01:39:15.000 Hollywood will start making movies according to those specifications because they want to make the money.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 Right?

01:39:21.000 But now, China's influencing our culture and the movies that disseminate America on the hope that China will buy them. 0.96

01:39:29.000 They don't all get bought, but the movies are different.

01:39:31.000 Yeah.

01:39:32.000 How else can they influence like that? 0.99

01:39:34.000 If you hold the fucking carrot, you can put anything you want out there. 0.99

01:39:37.000 Yes. 0.99

01:39:38.000 And they don't hold all the carrots, but they can partially hold it.

01:39:44.000 It is a dangerous thing.

01:39:46.000 You have to be concerned with how much foreign investment comes into your country.

01:39:50.000 Also, we just let other countries who are enemies buy land.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, that is peculiar.

01:39:56.000 Not just that.

01:39:57.000 We let them sell us routers.

01:40:00.000 Sell us networking equipment because it's cheaper.

01:40:02.000 I thought we stopped that.

01:40:03.000 Well, they still have a lot.

01:40:05.000 I thought that was the whole Huawei thing.

01:40:07.000 That was only Huawei.

01:40:08.000 That was only Huawei.

01:40:10.000 But if you look at, like, Mike Baker laid this out to me.

01:40:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:14.000 All of the cell towers and all the stuff that's around like military bases, a lot of the equipment has been provided by China.

01:40:21.000 I can't fathom- They're provided cheaper.

01:40:23.000 I can't fathom that our military would be purchasing technological equipment from- The same military that made Rachel Levine the first female admiral?

01:40:31.000 You don't think? 0.82

01:40:33.000 You don't think they could fuck that up too? 1.00

01:40:39.000 The same military that made that fucking bag stealer. 1.00

01:40:44.000 That bald-headed bag stealer who was stealing shit. 1.00

01:40:47.000 That was the person in charge of nuclear waste disposal. 0.99

01:40:50.000 And are they an expert in any way?

01:40:52.000 Oh, no!

01:40:53.000 They're an expert in wearing women's shoes. 1.00

01:40:55.000 That's it.

01:40:55.000 That's all you have to be.

01:40:57.000 It's all you have to be.

01:40:58.000 You just got to check the right box.

01:40:59.000 We're in the DEI program now, bro.

01:41:01.000 And a lot of that is also funded by China.

01:41:04.000 That makes sense.

01:41:05.000 And Russia as well.

01:41:06.000 Look, Yuri Bezmenov talked about this in the 1980s, how they've infiltrated our education institutions.

01:41:11.000 Yeah.

01:41:12.000 And then they're slowly turning us into Marxists, and they're slowly having us erode our faith in democracy and our pride in the country.

01:41:21.000 Yeah, Pride does seem, like it said, an all-time low.

01:41:24.000 It's a really disappointing thing.

01:41:26.000 Yeah, but I feel like it's like waves.

01:41:28.000 Like things go back and forth.

01:41:30.000 Pendulum shift.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, pendulum shift 100%, but it is one of those things where...

01:41:32.000 There's over-corrections, there's re-corrections.

01:41:34.000 Yeah.

01:41:34.000 I think that's the defund the police thing, too.

01:41:36.000 That's the over-correction.

01:41:37.000 Yeah.

01:41:37.000 Right?

01:41:38.000 And then the no-cash bail, that's the over-correction.

01:41:42.000 Yeah.

01:41:42.000 And then people are like, oh my God, look at all this chaos and crime.

01:41:44.000 We gotta re-correct.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, yeah, shift back.

01:41:46.000 And hopefully they do.

01:41:47.000 And hopefully they figure that out.

01:41:48.000 But what about Pride?

01:41:49.000 Pride?

01:41:50.000 How do we instill pride?

01:41:52.000 How do we make people proud to be part of the American experience?

01:41:55.000 It's not to say that all of us are not.

01:41:57.000 There's definitely a lot that are.

01:41:58.000 But how do we re-instill that?

01:42:01.000 I think one of the things, this is a simplistic answer, but one of the things is American manufacturing and American-made things.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, what are we making?

01:42:10.000 And have people support American-made companies and give people real jobs just because something costs less Because it's made in a country where people get paid nothing.

01:42:21.000 Doesn't mean you should buy that.

01:42:22.000 And if you could buy something that maybe costs more, but it gives people a living wage and healthcare and they have families and they could buy a house, that's what you should be buying.

01:42:31.000 Why are you proud to be American? 0.99

01:42:33.000 It's a great fucking place! 1.00

01:42:35.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

01:42:35.000 It's the best. 1.00

01:42:35.000 It's the cultural center point of the whole planet. 1.00

01:42:38.000 It's the only place you can live all 12 months.

01:42:43.000 Really?

01:42:44.000 Where else would you live for 12 months?

01:42:46.000 Name another country.

01:42:47.000 Bali. 1.00

01:42:48.000 Fuck out of here. 1.00

01:42:49.000 You can go rainy season in Bali walking around in fucking rainbow sandals like Bert Kreicher. 1.00

01:42:53.000 How much does it rain? 1.00

01:42:53.000 Out of your mind. 1.00

01:42:54.000 Does it rain a lot?

01:42:55.000 In Bali?

01:42:56.000 Yeah.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, you don't get that green without the rain.

01:42:59.000 Right. 0.99

01:43:00.000 So you get like typhoons and shit? 0.98

01:43:02.000 Yeah, you're not living there. 0.99

01:43:03.000 You don't want a tropical storm, son.

01:43:04.000 You don't want it.

01:43:05.000 You don't want a tropical storm in your life.

01:43:05.000 Especially without infrastructure.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, but you don't want to live in Kansas either when the tornadoes come.

01:43:09.000 But you have the opportunity to not live there.

01:43:10.000 That's true.

01:43:11.000 That's the thing about America.

01:43:12.000 You can live...

01:43:13.000 November to April, the wet season. 1.00

01:43:15.000 Yeah, fuck that. 0.99

01:43:16.000 Often called the rainy season or monsoon season. 1.00

01:43:18.000 Yeah, we're not doing it.

01:43:19.000 Due to its heavy storms and downpours.

01:43:20.000 We're not doing it.

01:43:21.000 Okay.

01:43:21.000 What I'm trying to say is there isn't another country that you can live all 12 months of the year.

01:43:26.000 You go to Abu Dhabi.

01:43:27.000 They make it rain. 1.00

01:43:28.000 In the fucking sun. 1.00

01:43:29.000 They make it rain. 1.00

01:43:30.000 But think about it.

01:43:31.000 In the summer, in July, in Abu Dhabi.

01:43:33.000 Right. 0.99

01:43:34.000 There's no fucking way. 0.99

01:43:35.000 It was so hot there that the Saudis would come to LA for relief. 0.99

01:43:37.000 Of course.

01:43:37.000 They go to London.

01:43:38.000 Who goes to fucking London? 1.00

01:43:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:40.000 For weather.

01:43:40.000 Yeah.

01:43:41.000 Right.

01:43:41.000 So it's like, this is the only one.

01:43:44.000 I genuinely, I cannot think of another one.

01:43:47.000 12 months.

01:43:48.000 The whole country.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 And if you live in Phoenix, you can live the whole country all year round.

01:43:53.000 But you can move around here.

01:43:54.000 Yeah.

01:43:55.000 True.

01:43:56.000 If you have the money, you can live in New York for these months, you can go to Florida, you can go to whatever.

01:43:59.000 There's an option.

01:44:00.000 Right.

01:44:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:01.000 That's a good point.

01:44:02.000 You can't live anywhere else.

01:44:03.000 But that's not the pride thing for me.

01:44:05.000 I think the pride thing is like, I truly believe you can be the best version of yourself here.

01:44:13.000 And I think anybody else in the world can be the best, most successful version of themselves here.

01:44:19.000 And that's why I'm proud to be American.

01:44:21.000 You can reach your full potential in this country.

01:44:24.000 It's a fun place.

01:44:25.000 Hey, there's a lot of fun places.

01:44:27.000 But can you reach your full potential in these other places? 0.97

01:44:30.000 They took fucking Jack Ma and they brought him into a basement when he got too powerful in China. 1.00

01:44:35.000 He talked a little shit. 1.00

01:44:36.000 He thought he was bigger than the system. 1.00

01:44:38.000 So they shut it down. 1.00

01:44:39.000 They saw what was happening to our tech billionaires here and they're like, hey, we're not gonna let that fucking shit happen here. 1.00

01:44:43.000 You're going to the basement. 0.98

01:44:46.000 Here, I'm not saying Joe Rogan isn't gonna be successful no matter where he goes, but you're gonna have fucking issues if you're in China, coming and having this much influence and a podcast and you're gonna have a talk. 0.91

01:44:57.000 You're gonna have some basement talks. 0.95

01:44:59.000 But in this fucking country, you can be the greatest version of yourself, and I don't know if there's another country that offers that opportunity. 0.99

01:45:07.000 And more importantly, anyone that's trying to stop that, Is un-American. 0.99

01:45:14.000 If you're trying to censor people's speech.

01:45:16.000 If you're trying to stifle people's growth.

01:45:19.000 And Americans will fight for you because of it.

01:45:21.000 It happens.

01:45:22.000 This is the hit piece thing.

01:45:23.000 When we see the hit piece, it tears at our American identity.

01:45:26.000 Even if you don't admit you are, there's a part of you that's going, whoa, whoa, this person's trying to be great.

01:45:31.000 And we're all here because we're trying to be great or our family came here to be great.

01:45:35.000 And this one's trying to be great and the world is trying to stop that. 1.00

01:45:38.000 Fuck them. 1.00

01:45:40.000 It's some people are trying to stop that. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Some people are trying to stop that.

01:45:43.000 But we're still...

01:45:43.000 We have animosity for those people that are trying to stop greatness because it is a core tenet here.

01:45:48.000 Yes.

01:45:49.000 You can be great.

01:45:50.000 An individual can be great here.

01:45:52.000 Yeah.

01:45:52.000 And I think that's a really special thing that we kind of lose here.

01:45:55.000 That we lose sight of.

01:45:57.000 But it is what makes me proud.

01:45:59.000 Maybe it's because my mom's not from here and she came here and she felt like she had all this opportunity and it was like, you can't tell my mom that's not the greatest country in the world.

01:46:06.000 So I grew up with that.

01:46:08.000 And of course there's tons of problems, but this idea that you can really achieve.

01:46:12.000 You're always gonna have problems when you have human beings.

01:46:14.000 Yes.

01:46:15.000 And there's no perfect solution.

01:46:17.000 Like universal basic income isn't the perfect solution.

01:46:20.000 Welfare is not the perfect solution.

01:46:22.000 There's no perfect solution to fix all that ails us.

01:46:25.000 But at least here, you can go from the bottom to the top.

01:46:29.000 You can go for it.

01:46:30.000 Yeah.

01:46:30.000 You can really go for it.

01:46:31.000 And you're not like...

01:46:32.000 Start from the bottom now we're here.

01:46:34.000 Facts.

01:46:35.000 In some places, like, you might have the aptitude to go from the bottom to the top, but the culture will be oppressive.

01:46:41.000 Yeah.

01:46:41.000 And I'm not even talking about third world.

01:46:43.000 I'm not talking about China.

01:46:44.000 I'm talking about there are places where there's a system where, like, hey, you're working class?

01:46:47.000 How dare you try to not be working class?

01:46:49.000 Yeah, that's what my friends in England say.

01:46:51.000 My friends in England.

01:46:52.000 My mom's from Scotland, that's what it was.

01:46:53.000 It's like, how dare you try to be great?

01:46:55.000 And here it's like, wait, you're not trying to be great?

01:46:58.000 Why aren't you trying to be great?

01:46:59.000 You have the opportunity to be great.

01:47:00.000 And when we see greatness, we support it. 0.99

01:47:03.000 That's not to say that we don't have jealousy and animosity, but there still is a version of it here where it's like, nah, that motherfucker's great. 0.98

01:47:10.000 And I am excited by that person's greatness. 0.98

01:47:14.000 If you're a winner.

01:47:16.000 But then you're also going to have a bunch of people that are just happy when you fall.

01:47:19.000 That's humans.

01:47:19.000 That is humans.

01:47:20.000 We have it too.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 But there's not a cultural oppression that exists for greatness.

01:47:26.000 Exactly.

01:47:26.000 The place is built to go to the top.

01:47:29.000 Yep.

01:47:29.000 And it makes me proud.

01:47:31.000 For me, I wish more people would grab onto that idea.

01:47:35.000 Yeah.

01:47:35.000 And it's all of us too.

01:47:37.000 That's what's so crazy about the idea that the American flag, the symbol, the American flag is offensive.

01:47:42.000 It's the best flag.

01:47:43.000 But it's so crazy that that's all of us.

01:47:46.000 That's even the good, the stuff that you think is good about America. 0.99

01:47:50.000 Even if you're like the hardcore, the most hard, far-left, hippie, fucking anarchist. 0.97

01:47:56.000 You are a part of America. 0.98

01:47:58.000 Your ideas are America as well.

01:48:00.000 That flag is yours too.

01:48:01.000 And we kind of need them.

01:48:02.000 We need everybody.

01:48:03.000 We need that back and forth.

01:48:04.000 We need that pendulum to sway.

01:48:05.000 We do.

01:48:05.000 We need balance.

01:48:06.000 Yeah.

01:48:07.000 You see what happens when there's just people existing in that echo tree. 0.99

01:48:09.000 You saw what happens in fucking San Francisco or even LA. You see like an idea permeate and then a very lax law or a lack of enforcement of that law create a culture that people are now not happy with.

01:48:24.000 If you ask the average person in LA or San Francisco, they're like, maybe we need some rules now.

01:48:27.000 I think rules would be okay.

01:48:29.000 We could punish some crimes.

01:48:30.000 It's okay.

01:48:30.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 Right.

01:48:42.000 Right.

01:48:47.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:48:48.000 I get stoked off the American experience.

01:48:51.000 But it does make me sad when I feel like everybody's upset about it. 0.99

01:48:53.000 The right thinks it sucks. 0.99

01:48:54.000 The left thinks it sucks. 1.00

01:48:55.000 Everybody just thinks it sucks. 0.99

01:48:56.000 And it's like, I don't know, man.

01:48:59.000 Well, I just think there's a lot of problems that exist today that weren't...

01:49:04.000 Problems decades ago, particularly social issues. 0.97

01:49:07.000 The impact of social media has thrown this country into a fucking turmoil. 0.99

01:49:14.000 What do you mean? 0.98

01:49:14.000 It's a force that we didn't anticipate, the amount of echo chambers that exist, the amount of people that gather up together in these groups, and they have full confirmation bias. 0.98

01:49:26.000 They only believe one side.

01:49:28.000 They disregard all evidence from the other side.

01:49:30.000 They dig their heels in.

01:49:32.000 They want to be on the right side of history.

01:49:34.000 If Donald Trump wins, he's a threat to democracy. 0.99

01:49:37.000 Joe Biden's a criminal. 0.99

01:49:38.000 He's a threat to democracy. 0.99

01:49:39.000 Our whole life is at stake with this election.

01:49:42.000 If you're on the wrong side, you've been co-opted by the bad people.

01:49:47.000 There's just so much tension that exists today where you can't have a difference of opinion with your neighbors. 0.99

01:49:53.000 Where it used to be, if your neighbor was a Republican and you were a Democrat, nobody gave a shit. 0.99

01:49:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:49:57.000 Like, what's up, Bob? 0.99

01:49:58.000 Maybe he would get annoying and he'd want to talk to you about fucking Watergate or something. 0.99

01:50:01.000 Like, I gotta go, bro. 0.99

01:50:02.000 I gotta go.

01:50:05.000 But it wasn't anti-American.

01:50:07.000 It wasn't as divisive, yeah.

01:50:08.000 He wasn't the main problem in the world.

01:50:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:11.000 You know, he wasn't a Nazi.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:14.000 He just wanted to hold on to his money.

01:50:16.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:50:16.000 He just thought you were a little bit of a pussy. 1.00

01:50:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:18.000 And you just thought he was maybe a little racist. 1.00

01:50:21.000 Yeah.

01:50:21.000 But you still barbecued.

01:50:22.000 Yeah.

01:50:23.000 It wasn't that crazy.

01:50:24.000 You said hi.

01:50:24.000 You waved to each other when you were in the driveway.

01:50:26.000 Yeah.

01:50:26.000 And now you think it's so divisive because of the internet.

01:50:28.000 The echo chambers are created.

01:50:29.000 And it's this good versus evil mentality on both sides.

01:50:32.000 So how dare you hang out with someone who's evil?

01:50:34.000 Yeah.

01:50:35.000 What does that make of you?

01:50:36.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:50:37.000 And then also, like, people dig their heels in and put fucking political signs on their front lawn. 0.99

01:50:41.000 My mom used to do that. 1.00

01:50:43.000 When she left in Florida, she had, like, Hillary Clinton signs on her front lawn, and people kept stealing them. 1.00

01:50:48.000 I'm like, Mom, take those down.

01:50:49.000 Wait, what do you mean?

01:50:50.000 What do you mean?

01:50:52.000 Like, what type of signs?

01:50:54.000 Like, Hillary for president! 0.98

01:50:56.000 Oh, hilarious.

01:50:56.000 Your mom.

01:50:57.000 Yeah!

01:50:59.000 The apple falls far from the tree.

01:51:02.000 Yeah.

01:51:03.000 And then she goes, they keep taking my signs.

01:51:06.000 I'm like, mom, don't put those signs up.

01:51:07.000 It's really you.

01:51:07.000 You're living in Florida.

01:51:08.000 It's just you.

01:51:09.000 You're just sending people to take the signs.

01:51:12.000 She was living in Florida.

01:51:14.000 I'm like, what do you expect?

01:51:15.000 It's a red state.

01:51:16.000 So, was she a big liberal?

01:51:17.000 Oh, my mom's a huge liberal. 1.00

01:51:18.000 Really?

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:19.000 Does she acknowledge that liberals...

01:51:21.000 They were hippies when I was a kid.

01:51:22.000 We lived in San Francisco during the height of the anti-war movement.

01:51:25.000 Oh, really?

01:51:26.000 Yeah, I grew up...

01:51:27.000 When I was seven years old, we moved to San Francisco.

01:51:29.000 Do you remember this?

01:51:30.000 Yeah, very clearly.

01:51:31.000 Yeah.

01:51:31.000 And has this kind of informed your politics a bit?

01:51:33.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:34.000 Yeah, we lived in a gay neighborhood. 0.89

01:51:35.000 It was like all these hippies and gay guys would whistle at my stepdad. 1.00

01:51:39.000 No way! 0.99

01:51:40.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:41.000 It was funny.

01:51:41.000 So you're like, I need to learn martial arts.

01:51:43.000 No, it wasn't dangerous.

01:51:45.000 These guys are coming for me.

01:51:45.000 It wasn't dangerous.

01:51:46.000 I mean, there was some crime.

01:51:47.000 I got my basketball stolen once.

01:51:50.000 But it wasn't bad.

01:51:51.000 It was a different time.

01:51:53.000 Peace and love was real back then.

01:51:55.000 The hippie movement was a real thing.

01:52:00.000 Oh, you felt it was pure?

01:52:02.000 Yeah, they were nice people, man.

01:52:04.000 I didn't even know what the N-word meant until I moved to Florida.

01:52:09.000 No way.

01:52:10.000 I had never heard it.

01:52:11.000 I never heard it.

01:52:12.000 I never heard it in San Francisco.

01:52:13.000 Nobody leaves me.

01:52:14.000 I didn't hear it.

01:52:16.000 Nobody said it.

01:52:17.000 It was so integrated.

01:52:21.000 Everybody was Asian and black and white.

01:52:27.000 The hippie movement was real, man, and it permeated the city in a kind way.

01:52:33.000 They were nice people.

01:52:34.000 It was a different time.

01:52:36.000 And it was also when I was living there was when the Vietnam War ended.

01:52:40.000 And I remember very clearly thinking to myself as like, I guess I was 10 or something.

01:52:44.000 Yeah.

01:52:44.000 Like, oh boy.

01:52:45.000 You felt relief as a kid?

01:52:47.000 I'm so happy because now there won't be war anymore.

01:52:48.000 They figured out that war is bad.

01:52:50.000 Because while Vietnam was going on, everybody knew it was a crazy war. 0.92

01:52:54.000 It didn't make any sense.

01:52:55.000 There was all these protests. 1.00

01:52:56.000 And then there was like Kent State where they shot the fucking protesters. 1.00

01:53:01.000 You know, the National Guard came and shot the protesters. 1.00

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:04.000 So there was this craziness, this turmoil in this country that didn't exist, you know, in...

01:53:12.000 It was a way that it's...

01:53:15.000 Wait a minute, this is interesting.

01:53:16.000 More than now, you felt?

01:53:18.000 It's hard to say because I was a kid.

01:53:20.000 But there was definitely a thing where they were drafting people to go and fight in this war.

01:53:25.000 And that was part of it.

01:53:27.000 It was the conscription.

01:53:28.000 They were forcing you to go die in war.

01:53:31.000 And we knew people that had gotten forced to go over there.

01:53:34.000 And knew people that had died over there.

01:53:36.000 It was weird.

01:53:38.000 It was a weird fear that they could force you to go to war.

01:53:42.000 And so when that was over, there was this relief, like, okay, good, we figured that out. 0.70

01:53:46.000 And then, you know, fucking ten years later, I was hanging out with my roommate, we were watching Operation Desert Storm kick off on TV, like, this is crazy. 0.95

01:53:56.000 Here we go again. 0.99

01:53:57.000 Here we go, man.

01:53:58.000 It was me and my buddy Jimmy Dottilio.

01:53:59.000 We're sitting in our house, and we're watching this. 0.98

01:54:02.000 We're living together in Malden, Massachusetts, and we're watching this fucking TV while we're... 0.99

01:54:07.000 Bro, we're at war. 1.00

01:54:08.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:54:09.000 We're watching the Tracer missiles, you know, the Tracer rounds. 0.99

01:54:12.000 I don't know what those are.

01:54:13.000 The way you could see the bullets. 0.99

01:54:15.000 They're lit up as they're flying through the air, and they're shooting them out of helicopters and shit. 1.00

01:54:20.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:54:21.000 And, you know, Operation Desert Storm, the first war, was like a lot... 1.00

01:54:26.000 It was like the first war that was, like, televised.

01:54:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:28.000 Like, you could watch shit get blown up. 0.99

01:54:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:32.000 You know?

01:54:33.000 And I can't believe it. 0.99

01:54:34.000 I was like, God damn it, we're doing it again. 0.98

01:54:36.000 And this was like, you know... 0.98

01:54:38.000 It was, I guess, the 90s, right?

01:54:41.000 When was the Iraq War?

01:54:43.000 When was the first Iraq War? 0.55

01:54:45.000 Bush.

01:54:45.000 When they pulled out.

01:54:46.000 Bush is...

01:54:47.000 What is first Bush?

01:54:49.000 Bush.

01:54:52.000 92?

01:54:53.000 So they pulled out.

01:54:54.000 We only lost like a small number of troops.

01:54:58.000 Gulf War, 90 to 91. Got it. 0.99

01:55:01.000 So it was quick.

01:55:04.000 And Bill Hicks had the great bit about it.

01:55:06.000 What did he say?

01:55:06.000 He goes, it's only a war when two armies are fighting.

01:55:10.000 Yeah.

01:55:12.000 And he goes, they say, Bill, they say the Iraq War is the fifth largest army.

01:55:18.000 He goes, yeah, but after the first two, there's a big drop-off.

01:55:20.000 He goes, Salvation Army is number three.

01:55:22.000 That's funny.

01:55:28.000 It's a great bit.

01:55:29.000 But it's true.

01:55:30.000 Yeah, they gotta find a way to justify it.

01:55:31.000 You know, and guys were just practicing.

01:55:34.000 They were just doing stuff.

01:55:35.000 Remember he had that bit, like, pull up G12. What does G12 do?

01:55:38.000 Let's find out.

01:55:39.000 And they're just, like, going through the weapons catalog.

01:55:42.000 Like, pull that one up. 1.00

01:55:43.000 Shoot it. 1.00

01:55:44.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:55:45.000 What's G13 do? 1.00

01:55:46.000 And that, like, that was a Hicks bit.

01:55:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:55:50.000 Bro. 1.00

01:55:51.000 And that one confused the shit out of everybody because we thought war was easy. 0.99

01:55:55.000 We thought, bro, we'll just go over there and fuck everybody up real quick. 0.99

01:55:59.000 Like we did. 0.99

01:56:00.000 But why did we think war was easy?

01:56:01.000 Because they did it.

01:56:02.000 You're saying afterwards we thought war was easy.

01:56:04.000 The Iraq war was so easy for us. 1.00

01:56:05.000 That we thought that's war.

01:56:06.000 Yeah.

01:56:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:08.000 Whereas Vietnam was this like... 1.00

01:56:09.000 Difficult, long, dredged out.

01:56:12.000 Didn't make any sense either.

01:56:13.000 This one was more like, oh, there's a despot.

01:56:16.000 We got to get him out.

01:56:17.000 Look how quick we could do it.

01:56:18.000 He invaded Kuwait. 0.94

01:56:19.000 Look how quick we take care of business. 0.97

01:56:21.000 This is how. 0.99

01:56:21.000 And we're like, goddamn, America's pretty badass. 0.99

01:56:23.000 So we got super cocky. 0.99

01:56:25.000 It was like Mike Tyson before he fought Buster Douglas.

01:56:28.000 Mike Tyson fights a blowout.

01:56:30.000 I'm not paying 50 bucks for that.

01:56:31.000 It's going to last 30 seconds.

01:56:33.000 And then you don't pay for the Buster Douglas fight.

01:56:35.000 You're like, no!

01:56:37.000 What?

01:56:37.000 He lost?

01:56:38.000 No way!

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 Yeah.

01:56:42.000 And so then the second Iraq work, and then you got real casualties.

01:56:46.000 The invasion of Afghanistan, and it's going on forever and ever and ever.

01:56:50.000 And it doesn't make any sense.

01:56:51.000 You realize, oh, God, this is a never-ending war.

01:56:54.000 This is almost like Vietnam. 0.89

01:56:55.000 This is crazy.

01:56:58.000 Yeah.

01:56:59.000 It is horrible, man.

01:57:01.000 I mean, that's the most horrible thing that people do, and it's the one thing that we don't think people will ever stop doing.

01:57:07.000 Which is war.

01:57:09.000 If you ask people, you think in 10 years there'll be no war.

01:57:12.000 No way.

01:57:13.000 There's never been a time.

01:57:14.000 There's never been a time while we've been alive with our tribal instincts that we haven't decided to control someone's resources or justify an invasion or come up with some reason why someone's wronged us and blow up pipelines.

01:57:27.000 We did blow it up, huh?

01:57:30.000 I don't think they did it.

01:57:32.000 Why would they do it?

01:57:33.000 Why would they cut off their supply of gas to Europe and miss out on all that money?

01:57:38.000 So CIA does it, or...?

01:57:40.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:57:41.000 I mean, I would be just talking completely out of my ass, but Seymour Hersh said the CIA did it. 0.99

01:57:46.000 And he's a very, very well-respected journalist. 0.99

01:57:52.000 I mean, he's about top of the food chain.

01:57:54.000 He's a legit journalist.

01:57:56.000 But what does he know?

01:57:57.000 I mean, if you weren't there, How much of it is disinformation? 0.99

01:58:01.000 How much can get shuffled down even to you as a journalist that's just straight bullshit? 0.99

01:58:06.000 They're sophisticated, man. 0.96

01:58:07.000 I mean, these people that are running, you know, what do you call it, the deep state, the intelligence agencies, you know, there's people that want to disband all of them, like the Vivek Ramaswamy guys.

01:58:18.000 I think you need them.

01:58:19.000 Because I think the world operates in a very clandestine way.

01:58:23.000 Other countries have agencies that are doing the same thing the CIA does.

01:58:27.000 If we don't have a better one, that's not good.

01:58:29.000 If you don't have an army, we don't need an army, we have flowers. 1.00

01:58:32.000 You need a fucking army. 1.00

01:58:33.000 You want to keep peace? 1.00

01:58:34.000 You need an army.

01:58:35.000 You want to keep an eye on all the terrorist organizations in the world that are planning on blowing up America?

01:58:40.000 You need a CIA. You fucking need them. 1.00

01:58:42.000 You need all of them. 1.00

01:58:43.000 You need the NSA. You need all of them.

01:58:45.000 You need those people.

01:58:46.000 But in those people, you're going to get cowboys.

01:58:49.000 You're going to get people that say, you know, I know how we can fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas. 0.60

01:58:54.000 Sell drugs.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 Let's just move some crack through LA. We can make millions of dollars. 0.98

01:58:59.000 No one knows.

01:59:00.000 So you get Freeway Ricky Ross.

01:59:02.000 You bring him in.

01:59:03.000 He's making untold amounts of money and he's doing it for the government. 1.00

01:59:08.000 For the fucking government. 0.99

01:59:08.000 And that's why he's not getting arrested. 0.99

01:59:10.000 And he doesn't even know.

01:59:11.000 And he doesn't even figure it out until he goes to jail.

01:59:13.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:59:14.000 Because he doesn't even know how to read until he goes to jail.

01:59:16.000 But that is interesting.

01:59:17.000 A lot of these actors don't even know that they're involved.

01:59:20.000 No!

01:59:21.000 It's way less involved...

01:59:22.000 Exactly.

01:59:23.000 ...than we believe it is.

01:59:24.000 There's so many layers to it, and it must be so fun to be the dude who's like...

01:59:29.000 To be the people who are orchestrating it.

01:59:30.000 To be like that.

01:59:31.000 I would never want to leave.

01:59:32.000 I was the head of the Pentagon.

01:59:33.000 What a great job. 1.00

01:59:34.000 Show up every day, and you're fucking Mercedes-Benz AMG. You hop out with your cuff links. 1.00

01:59:39.000 Like, let's fucking... 0.99

01:59:40.000 Let's get you rolling in the world. 1.00

01:59:42.000 Destroy Central America. 0.99

01:59:43.000 Woo! 1.00

01:59:44.000 Let's go, baby! 0.99

01:59:45.000 Let's go! 0.99

01:59:46.000 You're on Adderall, and you're fucking hopped up, having a good time, getting work done. 0.98

01:59:50.000 You're a great asset to the company. 0.99

01:59:52.000 You know, I love this company, and this company loves you. 0.99

01:59:55.000 And you're fucking all in, buddy, at the expense of your marriage, your family, your friends. 0.99

01:59:59.000 You're lying to everybody around you because you can't tell them what you're doing. 1.00

02:00:03.000 Nobody can know because they're fucking signal. 1.00

02:00:06.000 Bitch, you think that thing's secure? 1.00

02:00:08.000 No way. 1.00

02:00:09.000 No way.

02:00:09.000 They made it.

02:00:10.000 I bet they did.

02:00:11.000 Yeah, because you get to a certain point with success in this country where you have to be integrated into the government.

02:00:16.000 100%.

02:00:16.000 Google's integrated.

02:00:17.000 Facebook is integrated.

02:00:17.000 They have to be.

02:00:18.000 How do you think the fucking FBI was in Twitter? 0.99

02:00:21.000 Hey, we're getting pressure of our constituents. 0.99

02:00:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

02:00:25.000 We're getting pressure from this organization that gives us immense amounts of money, and we'd like you to put the fucking caboose on this stuff that'd be a problem. 0.97

02:00:36.000 Whether it's a laptop story, or whether it's COVID misinformation, whatever it is. 0.92

02:00:41.000 So how do you maintain your sovereignty?

02:00:45.000 That's a good question.

02:00:46.000 How do you do it?

02:00:47.000 You.

02:00:47.000 Me personally?

02:00:48.000 I gotta pee.

02:00:48.000 When I come back, let's talk about that.

02:00:50.000 Yeah, let's do it.

02:00:51.000 We're back.

02:00:52.000 Okay, how do you maintain your sovereignty?

02:00:56.000 You are the most influential person on the planet.

02:01:02.000 Government agencies would love to have a hold of you, I imagine.

02:01:09.000 How do you make sure that you create distance between you and them so you can put out the content you want to do?

02:01:15.000 Haven't even thought about it, but you know that they must try yeah, but I mean like first of all I'm not a valid source of information But I can get you valid sources of information meaning that I'm not an expert in anything other than like martial arts and I can I can give you some information about some things comedy I can talk to you about I think you're being humble,

02:01:34.000 but no, but being honest I'm not a legitimate expert in anything But I can bring experts on and I can have honest conversations with them and as a human being That is in this world.

02:01:48.000 It is imperative that we have access to all sorts of information, even information that might not be correct.

02:01:55.000 You gotta know why the person thinks the way they think, even if I disagree with them.

02:02:00.000 Why do you think that?

02:02:01.000 How does it work in your head?

02:02:03.000 Have you considered this?

02:02:04.000 I'll steel man their position.

02:02:05.000 I try to find out.

02:02:07.000 And if you're silencing people that are from Stanford and Harvard like they did during COVID, actual experts, you're doing a disservice to human beings, including you and your family.

02:02:22.000 Because if you're lying or allowing people to lie about medication or about the adverse effects of medication, that is not just you.

02:02:30.000 That's everyone that you know that's also going to take that medication upon your Admission or your recommendation?

02:02:37.000 You're doing a disservice to everyone, to the whole.

02:02:42.000 The person who's telling the truth is doing a service to everyone.

02:02:45.000 The whole.

02:02:46.000 So how do we parcel out the truth?

02:02:48.000 You've got to listen to everybody.

02:02:49.000 And then you make that decision.

02:02:51.000 It takes time.

02:02:52.000 Look how long it took from COVID to figure out what was going on.

02:02:55.000 You remember the early videos?

02:02:57.000 You will not get it.

02:02:58.000 The virus stops with you if you take this vaccine.

02:03:01.000 Now it's like you will not die.

02:03:04.000 Which you probably weren't going to die.

02:03:06.000 You probably won't die.

02:03:07.000 You won't get hospitalized.

02:03:09.000 Well, how do you know I was going to get hospitalized in the first place?

02:03:10.000 Most people didn't get hospitalized.

02:03:12.000 Do you know what the percentage of people even in the early days got hospitalized from COVID? What was it?

02:03:16.000 5%.

02:03:17.000 Which is a lot for 300 million people.

02:03:19.000 That is a lot.

02:03:19.000 It's a lot.

02:03:20.000 But still, to not even retract publicly some of the statements made and to vilify the people that were putting out that other information is a very dangerous situation.

02:03:29.000 Well, the CDC had to take down all of their...

02:03:33.000 Was it the FDA or the CDC? The FDA. The FDA had to take down all of their tweets about COVID in reference to ivermectin.

02:03:42.000 Wow.

02:03:42.000 Like, you're not a horse, y'all.

02:03:44.000 Stop it.

02:03:44.000 Yeah.

02:03:45.000 You remember that?

02:03:46.000 Was that the CDC? Find who made that.

02:03:49.000 You're not a horse, y'all.

02:03:51.000 That was one of them.

02:03:53.000 And this is about a medication that had been prescribed billions of times to human beings.

02:04:01.000 The FDA. You're not a horse.

02:04:04.000 You're not a cow.

02:04:05.000 Seriously, y'all.

02:04:06.000 You're not a horse.

02:04:07.000 You're not a cow.

02:04:07.000 Seriously, y'all.

02:04:08.000 Stop it.

02:04:09.000 Why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 from FDA? That is just propaganda.

02:04:20.000 Just full-on propaganda.

02:04:21.000 That's like saying penicillin is veterinary medicine.

02:04:24.000 Because they do use it in veterinary applications. 1.00

02:04:27.000 But it's for humans too, you fucking idiot. 1.00

02:04:29.000 And has it been used for humans? 1.00

02:04:31.000 Has it saved lives?

02:04:32.000 Yes. 0.99

02:04:32.000 Has ivermectin won the fucking Nobel Prize? 0.99

02:04:35.000 Yes. 0.99

02:04:36.000 So is penicillin.

02:04:37.000 Yes.

02:04:37.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 It's a human medication that has one of the safest profiles of any medication known.

02:04:45.000 Yeah.

02:04:45.000 And now they had to take down, pull the article that they had to take all that down.

02:04:49.000 So they had to delete 140 social media posts that were disparaging ivermectin.

02:04:56.000 I didn't even know this.

02:04:57.000 Yeah, they just lost in court.

02:04:58.000 Yeah, Pierre Corey has been, like, ringing the bell for the throat.

02:05:02.000 FDA agrees to delete your not a horse ivermectin tweet.

02:05:05.000 The FBI did not admit to wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement.

02:05:09.000 Oh, that's great.

02:05:10.000 They don't have to admit they were wrong because they were wrong.

02:05:12.000 They don't have to admit it.

02:05:13.000 We know you're wrong.

02:05:14.000 Great.

02:05:14.000 You don't have to admit it.

02:05:15.000 Go ahead.

02:05:18.000 The agency sent a settlement detailed in the Thursday court filing in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas does not mean it changes position that no data shows ivermectin to be an effective COVID treatment.

02:05:29.000 The agency is choosing to resolve this lawsuit rather than continuing to litigate over statements that are between two and nearly four years old.

02:05:36.000 Oh, we said those four years ago, guys.

02:05:39.000 The FDA said in an email statement, the agency has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19.

02:05:45.000 But doctors have always been allowed to use off-label medications, especially when shown to be effective.

02:05:53.000 And there's a ton of randomized controlled trials.

02:05:57.000 That shows ivermectin to be effective for the treatment of COVID-19.

02:06:01.000 Including entire Uttar Pradesh in India.

02:06:05.000 That's how they used it.

02:06:06.000 They had an incredible result.

02:06:08.000 People have used it.

02:06:10.000 They used it. 0.97

02:06:10.000 But when I used it, I had no fucking idea what can of worms I was opening up. 0.97

02:06:16.000 They made you look like this fucking skull. 0.99

02:06:19.000 They changed the color of my face. 1.00

02:06:21.000 CNN was all in, but to their own detriment.

02:06:24.000 And now people lost faith in CNN. The COVID thing to them was one of the worst experiences in terms of public trust.

02:06:33.000 Yeah.

02:06:33.000 Well, I think public trust is an all-time low in general.

02:06:35.000 And that's their bed that they made.

02:06:38.000 So that's the question is, like, how do you start believing again?

02:06:42.000 Because there is an importance in believing and trusting...

02:06:46.000 In trusting the systems that we have.

02:06:48.000 Like, it is important that we trust the medical field, right?

02:06:52.000 I mean, maybe not blindly, and maybe we should have more information, but it is important when we go into the...

02:06:56.000 Like I was just telling you, like, with my daughter, I was like, okay, you know, it's time to get vaccines, and I freaked out.

02:07:02.000 I genuinely, like, freaked out.

02:07:04.000 I told you, I was scared.

02:07:06.000 And I didn't do enough research.

02:07:08.000 I'm in that room and I'm like, I think I need the weekend.

02:07:11.000 And yeah, it's...

02:07:13.000 All of my friends that even are doctors who had no questions about the vaccines before, at all, before COVID. They recommended all of them.

02:07:23.000 Now, a lot of them are changing their tune.

02:07:25.000 So they have more skepticism based on the information that came out about the COVID vaccine or vaccines in general?

02:07:31.000 First of all, just the propaganda campaign behind the COVID vaccine.

02:07:34.000 So once they saw Total denial of any adverse effects, even though they personally knew people who had strokes, heart attacks, died.

02:07:41.000 The died suddenly thing.

02:07:42.000 The fact that athletes were dropping like flies.

02:07:45.000 The athletes thing was nuts.

02:07:46.000 That was scary because these are the people that are in the best shape in the world.

02:07:49.000 Soccer players having heart attacks, just dropping dead.

02:07:50.000 All of them vaccinated.

02:07:52.000 When you're seeing these people just drop dead.

02:07:54.000 Reporters on TV just fainting, passing out.

02:07:57.000 People I know personally that got the shot, that blacked out.

02:08:00.000 Quite a few. 0.99

02:08:01.000 Two guys I know that have fucking pacemakers now. 1.00

02:08:04.000 One of them's in his 30s, one of them's in his 40s, as a fucking pacemaker now. 0.99

02:08:08.000 And you should at least have that information before you make that decision. 0.97

02:08:11.000 Well, you should know that that information exists, and instead they're trying to hide it, and they're trying to gaslight you about it.

02:08:19.000 And then there's the thing about All-cause mortality.

02:08:24.000 The increase in all-cause mortality is...

02:08:26.000 There's a jump in all-cause mortality after the administration of the vaccines.

02:08:30.000 All-cause mortality is people that die from everything.

02:08:33.000 Die from heart attack, stroke, cancer.

02:08:35.000 All-cause mortality went up in some groups as much as 40%.

02:08:39.000 These are the control groups that have taken the vaccine.

02:08:43.000 Right.

02:08:44.000 This is just for COVID or...

02:08:45.000 Well, people, just in general, more people are dying.

02:08:51.000 The percentage of all-cause mortality is, in certain groups, up significantly.

02:08:55.000 I think in England, they did a study that said it was up 20% across the board.

02:08:59.000 In some groups, like, 18 to 49. In some groups, it was up, like, as high as 40%.

02:09:04.000 And that means that 40% more people are dying from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, everything, than were before.

02:09:11.000 Everything.

02:09:12.000 Everything.

02:09:12.000 Including people that probably would have died anyway.

02:09:14.000 Right.

02:09:14.000 But 40% more in some groups are dying.

02:09:17.000 And there are other variables that exist as well.

02:09:19.000 Sure.

02:09:19.000 I mean, this is a weird time.

02:09:20.000 There's lack of medical attention during COVID. People didn't see their doctors.

02:09:23.000 Maybe there was things that...

02:09:24.000 Alcoholism.

02:09:25.000 Of course.

02:09:26.000 People drank more.

02:09:26.000 There's a lot of factors.

02:09:28.000 But one of those factors might be this experimental medication.

02:09:32.000 And the resistance against that being possible is crazy.

02:09:36.000 And it's because people, first of all, they advocated for it, they told you to get it, they probably chastised people and scolded people that didn't get it.

02:09:42.000 So now they have this opinion that they have started with, and they're stuck with, and they want to be correct.

02:09:48.000 They don't want to back off. 0.97

02:09:50.000 It takes a very courageous person to say, I'm fucking wrong. 0.98

02:09:53.000 Not only was I wrong, but I probably fucked people over and a lot of people might have been adversely affected. 0.97

02:09:59.000 That's your career, your life, your identity. 0.98

02:10:01.000 Yes!

02:10:01.000 Especially if you're an intellectual.

02:10:04.000 That builds your entire identity around being right.

02:10:07.000 Yes!

02:10:07.000 And there's massive pressure from all these institutions that have always been unquestionable in the past, like the FDA or the CDC. It's like a botched surgery.

02:10:16.000 If you go for plastic surgery and somebody fucks it up, you're not going back to that doctor.

02:10:20.000 So they're terrified.

02:10:20.000 Exactly.

02:10:21.000 They have to go, no, we were right, 100% right, trust me, I want to continue doing this.

02:10:25.000 Okay, so the skepticism starts there, and then it starts to bleed into all vaccines.

02:10:30.000 Exactly.

02:10:31.000 And that's where it is with some friends of mine that are physicians.

02:10:34.000 And then you read what Robert Kennedy says.

02:10:36.000 And Robert Kennedy is the guy that gets put in the kook category.

02:10:39.000 And I had to admit that to him when I had him on the podcast.

02:10:42.000 I had an opinion of you that was based on propaganda.

02:10:46.000 I thought you were this wacky conspiracy theorist guy. 1.00

02:10:49.000 You're nuts. 1.00

02:10:50.000 You're the guy that's telling you, like, fucking, you know, take silver iodine. 1.00

02:10:55.000 You're going to never get sick again. 1.00

02:10:57.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:58.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 You put him in this category of holistic medicine guys or whatever.

02:11:03.000 It's not even a bad thing.

02:11:04.000 But you put him in this naturopath category, kooky category, conspiracy theorist, tinfoil hat.

02:11:11.000 And then I read his book.

02:11:13.000 I read The Real Anthony Fauci.

02:11:15.000 And you read that book and you're like, okay, if this is not true, why isn't he getting sued?

02:11:20.000 And it seems like this is the exact same playlist that they ran during the AIDS crisis and that's the Dallas Buyers Club.

02:11:26.000 The Dallas Buyers Club is all about that.

02:11:28.000 It's all about Anthony Fauci.

02:11:30.000 It's all about restricting medication to people that have HIV and forcing them to take AZT which was killing everybody.

02:11:37.000 AZT kills people!

02:11:39.000 It was a chemotherapy medication they stopped using because it kills people quicker than cancer.

02:11:43.000 People that were asymptomatic from HIV were put on AZT and they were dead within six months.

02:11:50.000 It's a chemotherapy medication you're supposed to stay on.

02:11:53.000 No chemotherapy medication you stay on indefinitely.

02:11:57.000 You take them for a course because it's damaging, because it's killing the cancer, but it's also killing you.

02:12:02.000 And then it kills the cancer, and you recover, and now the cancer is gone, and that's how chemotherapy works when it works.

02:12:07.000 But they just kept them on the whole time.

02:12:08.000 But they weren't using it for cancer anymore.

02:12:11.000 Read the book.

02:12:12.000 Not only that, they experimented with vaccines for HIV on foster kids in New York, and a bunch of them died.

02:12:21.000 It's all in the book. 1.00

02:12:22.000 And if it's not true, why didn't he— They sue his ass. 0.98

02:12:26.000 Why isn't he getting sued? 0.98

02:12:28.000 Why aren't there articles written pointing out all the things that are absolutely wrong with what he's saying about the HIV crisis?

02:12:34.000 So your position is fair skepticism about the vaccines and let's get some more studies and information out there and then we can make our own decisions based on that.

02:12:43.000 Right.

02:12:43.000 What is the—what's the cause of the uptick in chronic illness, autism, all these different things?

02:12:50.000 What is it?

02:12:51.000 Are there environmental factors?

02:12:53.000 Is it contamination?

02:12:54.000 Is it food?

02:12:56.000 Is it pollution?

02:12:57.000 What is it?

02:12:58.000 What is it?

02:12:59.000 What is it?

02:13:00.000 And could it be that too?

02:13:03.000 Could it be these vaccines?

02:13:05.000 Is it possible that these people that tell these stories about having perfectly healthy children and then them getting vaccinated and then all of a sudden the kid going non-responsive?

02:13:13.000 Yeah.

02:13:15.000 That seems like it's possible that there's a correlation there.

02:13:19.000 If there's a cause, and then there's an effect.

02:13:22.000 If there's an action, and then there's an effect.

02:13:24.000 Let's see if there's a connection here.

02:13:25.000 If there's a thing that you do, and all these parents, you could say a bunch of them, it was just...

02:13:32.000 Coincidental that the kids started showing it after the medication was administered.

02:13:35.000 And maybe that's true.

02:13:37.000 Maybe that's true.

02:13:37.000 But how do we know if that's not even considered?

02:13:39.000 I think there's a timing thing too.

02:13:40.000 If it's a taboo subject.

02:13:41.000 Isn't there like a timing thing where like kids don't show those symptoms until one and that is when you vaccinate them or something.

02:13:47.000 So there are some...

02:13:48.000 There's correlations.

02:13:49.000 Correlational issues here.

02:13:50.000 Doesn't mean causation.

02:13:51.000 Of course not.

02:13:51.000 But let's study it.

02:13:52.000 Let's fucking look at it. 0.97

02:13:53.000 But the fact that you can't ever even consider that injecting kids with chemicals, including mercury and aluminum, that you're doing this. 0.99

02:14:01.000 Yeah.

02:14:01.000 That this might have a negative effect on some kids?

02:14:05.000 Yeah.

02:14:06.000 And that maybe the corresponding uptick in these chronic illnesses and allergies and diseases and autism, maybe?

02:14:13.000 Maybe?

02:14:14.000 What was the allergy connection again?

02:14:16.000 Aluminum.

02:14:17.000 That's right, because every one of the vaccines has a little aluminum in it.

02:14:20.000 Well, the way it is, you have an inert form of the virus, right?

02:14:23.000 And then you have this irritant.

02:14:25.000 You have this thing that fucks with your body, and your body goes, what is this?

02:14:28.000 The aluminum's in there. 0.95

02:14:29.000 Oh, there's a virus in here, a dead virus.

02:14:33.000 I'll create the antibodies.

02:14:34.000 And it works.

02:14:35.000 It does work.

02:14:35.000 But does it also have negative effects?

02:14:37.000 And is it a volume thing?

02:14:39.000 Is it the amount of vaccines you give a kid all together?

02:14:42.000 Yes.

02:14:42.000 They're trying to give your kid, like, HPV vaccine right from birth.

02:14:47.000 Like, when do they start giving them hepatitis B? 12 hours in.

02:14:50.000 That's when birth.

02:14:50.000 Yeah.

02:14:51.000 12 hours in, they came into the room and they're like, hepatitis B. Yo!

02:14:54.000 And I literally, and I was like, what is it?

02:14:56.000 Because I didn't know what it was.

02:14:57.000 And they were like, it's a disease that could kill your kid.

02:14:59.000 And I was like, well, we should probably give it to her.

02:15:01.000 And then I'm like, how do you even get it?

02:15:02.000 And they're like, it's a sexually transmitted disease.

02:15:04.000 And I was like, hold on.

02:15:06.000 Yeah.

02:15:07.000 I think that we could pump the brakes a little bit.

02:15:10.000 12 hours old?

02:15:11.000 Yeah.

02:15:12.000 Yeah.

02:15:13.000 We got time.

02:15:14.000 Yeah.

02:15:14.000 Jesus Christ!

02:15:16.000 Okay, so I understand.

02:15:18.000 So now there's a skepticism.

02:15:19.000 But then, right now, just having this conversation, even talking about it the way we've talked about it so carefully, you'll be labeled an anti-vaxxer.

02:15:27.000 Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan float around anti-vax conspiracy theories.

02:15:31.000 Well, we're not conspirizing right now, right?

02:15:33.000 Nope.

02:15:34.000 We're just literally saying, maybe it's okay to do the research without shame.

02:15:37.000 Well, how is it not possible to talk about it without being labeled a kook?

02:15:41.000 If this is a thing, if you're injecting kids with chemicals, and we know that medications have adverse effects, even simple medications.

02:15:50.000 Some people have horrible effects from all kinds of stuff.

02:15:53.000 There's people that can't take...

02:15:55.000 Like, Aaron Rodgers couldn't take...

02:15:58.000 The mRNA vaccines because there's an ingredient in them that he's deathly allergic to.

02:16:02.000 So an interesting thing is I asked the doctor and she was actually great.

02:16:07.000 The doctor was really great.

02:16:08.000 Her mom was kind of anti-vaccine. 0.99

02:16:09.000 She's like, so I understand it.

02:16:10.000 There's no pressure.

02:16:11.000 I was telling you this.

02:16:12.000 And then she said this was interesting.

02:16:13.000 I was like, what about if we...

02:16:15.000 Scheduled them out.

02:16:16.000 Delayed them, I think is what they say.

02:16:18.000 And so you have less viral load at one time.

02:16:20.000 She said something interesting.

02:16:21.000 She goes, listen, every vaccine has a little bit of preservative in it, right?

02:16:26.000 You need to have a little bit in order to keep that inert disease alive or whatever.

02:16:31.000 She goes, so the question you have to ask now is, okay, maybe...

02:16:35.000 The preservative isn't good to put in your kid, and now you're putting more of it in because you're doing more vaccines over a longer period of time. 0.92

02:16:42.000 So this is a variable I didn't even fucking think of.

02:16:45.000 I'm trying to lower the viral load that my eight-week-old baby has inside her, but now I'm increasing the preservative load that the baby has, and I don't know the effects of that. 0.92

02:16:53.000 And that's why I had to walk out.

02:16:55.000 And the thing is, the medical institutions have been captured by pharmaceutical drug companies.

02:17:01.000 They're captured.

02:17:03.000 They're captured by the agencies.

02:17:05.000 I mean, it's not as simple as a doctor is basing it all on his education and his understanding of this particular situation and the objective science of all of it.

02:17:17.000 No, there's a narrative.

02:17:18.000 There's a narrative that gets distributed.

02:17:20.000 And that was the narrative during COVID. You must get vaccinated.

02:17:23.000 Yes.

02:17:23.000 They were telling people to get vaccinated right after they got over COVID. It doesn't even make sense.

02:17:27.000 It's completely unscientific.

02:17:29.000 And they make it restrictive.

02:17:32.000 For example, my wife, in order for her to go to school, had to get the booster.

02:17:36.000 She was getting her MBA, and she had to.

02:17:39.000 And the same thing with kids.

02:17:40.000 If you want to put your kid in a school, they have to have them all.

02:17:44.000 If you want to put it in a daycare, they have to.

02:17:46.000 If you want to travel, if you want to fly, certain jobs.

02:17:49.000 So you start to feel the pressure, and the outside pressure makes you go, okay, I'm being forced into this decision.

02:17:56.000 I don't really have my freedom.

02:17:57.000 You say I have my freedom, but I want my kid to get educated.

02:18:00.000 I want my kid to be able to go see their grandparents.

02:18:02.000 I want my kid to do these things.

02:18:04.000 And, yeah, you do feel a social pressure. 0.99

02:18:07.000 You don't want to be labeled a fucking anti-vax weirdo. 0.98

02:18:09.000 But at the same time, it was hard as hell for my wife and I to get pregnant, so I'm really protective over this innocent little baby, and I don't want to be responsible for giving him something that could fuck him up. 0.99

02:18:17.000 I don't know how I live with myself.

02:18:19.000 Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy was saying that vaccine caused her son to be autistic, and she was just attacked merciless?

02:18:26.000 I don't remember, but...

02:18:27.000 Essentially, it was like kind of the end of her ever being taken seriously.

02:18:30.000 It was kind of the end of her career.

02:18:32.000 Jenny McCarthy was huge.

02:18:33.000 MTV days, I remember.

02:18:35.000 MTV days, she had her own sitcom.

02:18:37.000 Jenny McCarthy was doing a lot of different things, and you don't hear about her at all anymore.

02:18:41.000 I think Robert De Niro even tried to...

02:18:44.000 She had a TV show recently?

02:18:45.000 She's been on a show.

02:18:46.000 What is it?

02:18:46.000 The Masked Singer or whatever.

02:18:47.000 She's a judge on that.

02:18:48.000 Oh, okay.

02:18:49.000 So she's back.

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:51.000 For a long time, she was like persona non grata.

02:18:55.000 What is The Masked Singer?

02:18:56.000 It's a game show. 0.99

02:18:58.000 I'm so ignorant. 0.97

02:18:59.000 I don't even know that show's still on the air. 0.97

02:19:02.000 Anyway, it's one of these things where you're like...

02:19:04.000 She's one of the judges?

02:19:05.000 Yeah.

02:19:05.000 Okay.

02:19:05.000 So she's okay.

02:19:07.000 But if the conversation comes up with vaccines, people roll their eyes.

02:19:13.000 Like, oh, Jenny McCarthy.

02:19:15.000 She's anti-science. 0.60

02:19:16.000 But what's the way to talk about it and have the conversation?

02:19:19.000 We're not anti-vaccine movement.

02:19:20.000 We're pro-safe vaccine.

02:19:22.000 Beautiful woman, huh? 1.00

02:19:24.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:24.000 2015. Well, damn, bro.

02:19:27.000 She could still be beautiful. 1.00

02:19:29.000 Yeah, Jamie's rude. 1.00

02:19:33.000 She's an old bitch now. 1.00

02:19:36.000 No, it's just, I don't know, it's one of those things where, like... 1.00

02:19:40.000 You're fucking... 0.95

02:19:41.000 You're scared because you want to protect this thing that you really care about and love both ways. 1.00

02:19:46.000 You don't want them to get a disease and get sick that you could have avoided while at the same time you don't want to put something in them that could have a negative effect.

02:19:54.000 So you're just in this stalemate.

02:19:56.000 I know.

02:19:57.000 And you don't know who to trust and what to believe.

02:20:00.000 And that's the problem with information right now.

02:20:01.000 I don't think we know what to believe about anything. 0.95

02:20:03.000 It's like even the fucking... 0.97

02:20:05.000 The Trans Visibility Day thing, like every headline was Biden declares Easter Trans Visibility Day. 0.99

02:20:12.000 Right.

02:20:12.000 And I read it and I was like, there is no way.

02:20:14.000 Like, yeah, maybe there's a bunch of lefties there, the liberal leaning, but there's no way that he would declare Easter this way.

02:20:20.000 And I looked into it.

02:20:21.000 Trans Visibility Day started like 15 years ago.

02:20:24.000 Right.

02:20:24.000 Three years ago, they declared it.

02:20:26.000 And then Easter obviously changes every year the date.

02:20:29.000 It doesn't change the day.

02:20:30.000 Right.

02:20:30.000 And then it ends up on the Sunday.

02:20:31.000 Right.

02:20:32.000 But the headline is...

02:20:34.000 Biden declares Easter Trans Visibility Day.

02:20:38.000 Right.

02:20:39.000 Once I read that and I know it's fake, now every headline is fake to me.

02:20:42.000 And I think now I'm in this like, maybe we're all in this whirlpool.

02:20:47.000 They're all using it because there's money to be made out of it.

02:20:50.000 That click is valuable.

02:20:52.000 And they will knowingly, like we were talking about that woman earlier with the Huberman thing, there is money to be made out of that.

02:20:57.000 Yes.

02:20:58.000 And as long as there's money to be made from it, they'll go for it.

02:21:01.000 And they'll remove information that is incredibly important to the truth of the story.

02:21:05.000 Yeah.

02:21:06.000 I don't know how you solve that.

02:21:08.000 But that thing, the Biden thing is kind of crazy because, you know, on this day of our Lord, like they make this declaration and they know that it's going to happen on Easter Sunday.

02:21:16.000 They know this year or maybe last year, but when they started, they're not like, how are we going to take away Easter from...

02:21:22.000 Right.

02:21:22.000 It's like Thanksgiving.

02:21:22.000 It always happens on a Thursday.

02:21:24.000 Exactly.

02:21:24.000 Yeah.

02:21:25.000 So Easter Sunday is always a Sunday and it could vary from April to March.

02:21:28.000 Exactly.

02:21:29.000 Yeah, like it could be March 31st or it could be April 23rd.

02:21:32.000 Like it's really wide.

02:21:33.000 Yeah.

02:21:34.000 The range that Easter Sunday falls on. 1.00

02:21:36.000 And they saw it coming this year and they're probably like, fuck. 1.00

02:21:39.000 If we move it, we hate the trans. 1.00

02:21:41.000 If we don't move it, we hate the Christians. 1.00

02:21:44.000 I think they saw it as an opportunity to like...

02:21:49.000 In an election cycle, Joe?

02:21:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:21:50.000 It was absurd.

02:21:51.000 The loons, the loons on the left, they're all in with that stuff.

02:21:55.000 Joe doesn't know what a trans is.

02:21:57.000 Well, he knows one of them got fired for stealing bags.

02:22:00.000 He thinks that's a woman. 1.00

02:22:01.000 And the other one pulled their tits out. 1.00

02:22:02.000 He's 80 years old. 1.00

02:22:04.000 If you went to him and you were like, that's actually a man, he would go, there's no fucking way. 0.99

02:22:09.000 Show it to me. 0.94

02:22:10.000 Bro, that administration is all in on that stuff in such a hardcore way that he got interviewed by Dylan Mulvaney.

02:22:16.000 Yeah, and he thought that was a woman. 0.94

02:22:18.000 And I've been a girl for 350 days.

02:22:19.000 He's like, oh, God bless you.

02:22:21.000 God bless you.

02:22:22.000 That's what he said.

02:22:23.000 Did you ever see that interview?

02:22:24.000 No.

02:22:24.000 Oh, it's wild.

02:22:25.000 It's wild.

02:22:26.000 But like, I think none of us really believe he's making the decisions, right?

02:22:29.000 He's just like a puppet for the...

02:22:30.000 Yeah.

02:22:31.000 And he's just there to get lambasted when all these things happen.

02:22:34.000 Yeah.

02:22:34.000 And then he forgets about it immediately afterwards.

02:22:36.000 Yeah, he doesn't know.

02:22:36.000 He's the perfect guy to blame for things.

02:22:38.000 Exactly.

02:22:38.000 And that's why he's there.

02:22:39.000 That's why you get the 80-year-old dude.

02:22:40.000 But the idea that they're going to keep running him is just bananas.

02:22:43.000 You're going to keep him in there?

02:22:45.000 I can't believe that's real, but as time goes on, I'm starting to think they might actually keep running him.

02:22:49.000 Yeah, I don't know why they would switch him out.

02:22:51.000 They're not in a position they can switch him out for anybody.

02:22:53.000 Who steps in?

02:22:54.000 Well, he would have to...

02:22:56.000 Not Kamala.

02:22:56.000 No, not Kamala.

02:22:58.000 But he would have to kick the bucket.

02:22:59.000 And then they just slide Newsome in or somebody?

02:23:01.000 Yeah.

02:23:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:23:02.000 Yeah.

02:23:03.000 That's what I think.

02:23:03.000 You think that's what they're hoping for secretly?

02:23:06.000 May.

02:23:07.000 I think he's got until May.

02:23:08.000 No way!

02:23:09.000 I feel like right around May they're gonna pull him.

02:23:11.000 No way!

02:23:12.000 Yeah.

02:23:13.000 And Newsome comes in.

02:23:14.000 I think he just has health problems, and then the country understands, and Newsom is going to have his support fully, and Kamala is going to be like, I don't even want to be president.

02:23:24.000 I'm cool with being vice president.

02:23:26.000 So Newsom runs with Kamala?

02:23:28.000 Yeah.

02:23:29.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:23:30.000 I don't think they can pull Kamala.

02:23:32.000 I think as long as they keep her quiet, she's not, she's already, whatever liability sure is, she's so quiet.

02:23:38.000 You know who else has been quiet?

02:23:39.000 AOC. They get them to fall in line, huh?

02:23:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:23:42.000 They were loud, dancing, doing TikToks, and then they go, hey, hey, why don't you shut the fuck up over there, pits? 1.00

02:23:48.000 And then they shut up. 0.99

02:23:49.000 Also, don't you want to be president someday, Alexandra?

02:23:52.000 They carry it. 1.00

02:23:53.000 They hang the fucking carrot. 1.00

02:23:55.000 And she probably could. 1.00

02:23:55.000 She could probably pull it off. 1.00

02:23:57.000 So there's a lot of factors.

02:23:59.000 And you're basically auditioning to be the spokesperson for the machine.

02:24:04.000 Yes.

02:24:05.000 And it worked for Biden.

02:24:06.000 He's the perfect example.

02:24:07.000 Think about it.

02:24:08.000 If you're part of the machine, you look at Biden's career, and you're like, oh, it does work out.

02:24:12.000 If I just play by the rules of the machine, they'll put me in position one day, and I'll have the power.

02:24:17.000 You don't even have to be good.

02:24:18.000 You don't.

02:24:19.000 You have to be there.

02:24:20.000 Especially if you have a bad guy.

02:24:21.000 Well, that's one of the reasons why Hillary wanted Trump to run. 1.00

02:24:24.000 She's like, I'll beat that guy. 1.00

02:24:25.000 That guy's an idiot. 1.00

02:24:26.000 I can't beat somebody that's competent. 1.00

02:24:29.000 Yeah, and actually looks like a leader.

02:24:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:31.000 Listen to this fucking maniac from The Apprentice. 1.00

02:24:34.000 And what does she find out? 1.00

02:24:35.000 Yeah, I want to run him.

02:24:35.000 Yeah.

02:24:36.000 Yeah, whoops.

02:24:37.000 Yeah.

02:24:37.000 Whoopsies.

02:24:38.000 Yeah.

02:24:39.000 And now he's more popular than ever.

02:24:40.000 I think it's easy for him, actually, this time around.

02:24:42.000 I don't know if it's real.

02:24:44.000 What do you mean?

02:24:45.000 Let's find out.

02:24:45.000 Let's find out if they can rig it.

02:24:48.000 Let's find out.

02:24:48.000 Oh, yeah, they'll do everything they can.

02:24:50.000 If the 2020 elections weren't rigged, let's say they weren't.

02:24:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:24:54.000 You don't think there's something that can be done to move things one way or the other?

02:24:58.000 There's certainly the manipulation of media.

02:25:00.000 Of course.

02:25:01.000 Now, you want to talk about election interference.

02:25:04.000 So forget about mail-in ballots.

02:25:06.000 Forget about all that stuff.

02:25:07.000 Yeah.

02:25:08.000 Access to information will affect elections.

02:25:12.000 For example?

02:25:12.000 When the government steps in and tells Twitter to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story.

02:25:19.000 That laptop story, let's say they went all in, they distributed it to all the media, and then Fox News starts telling you all the evidence it shows that Biden was getting kickbacks and he's the big guy and 10% and all this money that went from billions of,

02:25:34.000 millions of dollars and Burisma and all these.

02:25:36.000 Where's that money gone?

02:25:37.000 Yeah.

02:25:38.000 What were the contracts?

02:25:39.000 What's happening?

02:25:40.000 How does he have this job teaching for a million dollars a year where he doesn't even show up?

02:25:44.000 What is all of this stuff?

02:25:46.000 That's the game.

02:25:46.000 What is this?

02:25:47.000 That's the game. 0.77

02:25:48.000 And if that got into fence sitters, people are like, I don't know, Trump's kind of gross, but Biden's old, but I'm still going to vote for Biden because Trump's a bad guy.

02:25:57.000 Then you sway.

02:25:58.000 Oh my God, Biden's a bad guy.

02:25:59.000 Trump might be the answer.

02:26:00.000 You know what?

02:26:00.000 We were fine while he was in office.

02:26:01.000 Let's run with him.

02:26:03.000 Yeah.

02:26:05.000 I mean, it's basically election interference, because you're withholding information that would be detrimental to the person that you want to win.

02:26:12.000 It's absolutely election interference.

02:26:15.000 So anybody says there's no election interference.

02:26:17.000 That is election interference.

02:26:19.000 And then you have Google search results, which Robert Epstein, in his research, has shown that Google search results...

02:26:28.000 What a tough name to have.

02:26:28.000 Google search results have shown that you can manipulate and with his research you can manipulate the search results through the algorithm and that will like highlight negative stories about the people that you want to be negative or positive stories about the people you want to be positive and it can have an overall effect on how people vote because most people are surface information gatherers they read headlines like uh-huh got it yeah and then they go with it yeah and the headline might be horseshit you might get into the article I mean,

02:26:58.000 we've done that so many times. 0.92

02:26:59.000 But wait a minute.

02:27:00.000 This specifically says that that's not true.

02:27:03.000 So what are they saying in the article?

02:27:05.000 Complaints of.

02:27:06.000 Oh, it's a complaint of.

02:27:08.000 But then you get into it, you go, oh, but it's not real.

02:27:10.000 Yeah, trans visibility.

02:27:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:27:12.000 There's so many things like that that can just affect public opinion.

02:27:15.000 Yeah.

02:27:16.000 And there's so many people that will just say things publicly and they think that this is a fact.

02:27:21.000 How many people have you seen got caught in that women only make 70 cents to a man's dollar? 1.00

02:27:27.000 How many people have you ever seen get caught in that thing?

02:27:29.000 How come women should be paid the same that men are paid? 1.00

02:27:32.000 No, argue in the streets.

02:27:34.000 But they don't even understand what the argument is.

02:27:36.000 The argument is men pick different jobs, they work longer hours, they don't take maternity leave.

02:27:42.000 Overall, they make more money.

02:27:43.000 This is why.

02:27:44.000 They take jobs that are more dangerous.

02:27:46.000 They take jobs that are higher risk.

02:27:48.000 It also includes the most wealthy people, which are men.

02:27:51.000 So that's going to skew it in a dramatic fashion.

02:27:53.000 Dramatic, yeah. 0.71

02:27:54.000 The top billionaires, they're all men except for chicks that got divorced.

02:27:58.000 That is the best way to get rich. 0.98

02:28:01.000 If you want to be a female billionaire, chop it in half. 1.00

02:28:04.000 But the thing is, female billionaires don't like that label. 1.00

02:28:08.000 They got it, so they become philanthropists.

02:28:10.000 Oh, that's why Bezos' wife is giving it up. 1.00

02:28:12.000 She's a philanthropist.

02:28:13.000 Billionaire philanthropist, Mackenzie Bezos.

02:28:15.000 Where'd she get that money? 0.96

02:28:16.000 Just being awesome.

02:28:18.000 Billionaire?

02:28:18.000 Just being amazing.

02:28:19.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:28:20.000 No, she was married to a psycho.

02:28:22.000 The psycho made all the money, and now she's distributing it to left-wing causes, and all the right-wing guys are complaining.

02:28:29.000 Yeah. 0.72

02:28:30.000 And Elon's mad.

02:28:31.000 Elon was saying something about her distributing these rich divorcees, distributing to the downfall of democracy. 1.00

02:28:39.000 Yeah.

02:28:39.000 He's been going in.

02:28:41.000 He goes in, man.

02:28:42.000 It's really interesting to see how political he's gotten and that immediately upon being, because he was the darling of the left and the right.

02:28:49.000 Oh yeah, big time the left.

02:28:51.000 But the left obviously for the cars, but the right because he's a successful businessman.

02:28:56.000 And the second he takes a position politically, he is chastised, shamed, ridiculed.

02:29:02.000 And even before that, think about it, everybody was invested in Tesla because the stock was going crazy.

02:29:07.000 So not only are you the darling, you're making me money.

02:29:10.000 I want you to be great. 0.98

02:29:12.000 Once you're making people money, they don't want to write bad shit about you. 0.97

02:29:15.000 Especially if they've got a million dollars invested in Tesla. 0.97

02:29:17.000 I'm not going to ridicule this guy and watch half of my money go away.

02:29:20.000 And the second he opened his mouth about politics, And the thing is, he snaps back at people.

02:29:25.000 He goes.

02:29:26.000 Which is crazy.

02:29:26.000 He goes.

02:29:28.000 Bro, he dunks on people.

02:29:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:30.000 Which is hilarious.

02:29:31.000 But I'm also just like, you know, don't you got some science to do?

02:29:34.000 Yeah, how are you doing this?

02:29:35.000 I don't understand how he does any of it.

02:29:37.000 AI, dude.

02:29:38.000 He created another Elon.

02:29:39.000 Maybe he is.

02:29:40.000 Maybe he's AI. But what he's done with Twitter or X... It's really interesting.

02:29:46.000 I call it Twitter.

02:29:47.000 Yeah, it's hard for me to change.

02:29:49.000 Because it is an X that you made, or is it a tweet?

02:29:51.000 Did you tweet something?

02:29:52.000 It's a tweet.

02:29:53.000 I tweeted it.

02:29:54.000 Yeah, it's Twitter.

02:29:55.000 It's kind of funny, though, because it is X. Yeah, but it's Twitter.

02:29:58.000 But it's Twitter.

02:29:59.000 But the idea that he is going to uphold...

02:30:15.000 He may have very well saved...

02:30:22.000 Humanity in some way, because by providing this one platform where people can actually speak their mind, up to a point, you know, I mean, there's still some rules.

02:30:32.000 Sure. 0.99

02:30:32.000 But up to a point, you get away with a lot of shit. 0.99

02:30:36.000 I see so much racist shit on Twitter now that I never saw before, like openly racist. 1.00

02:30:42.000 Really? 1.00

02:30:42.000 Openly racist. 1.00

02:30:43.000 Wow.

02:30:44.000 Yeah, and then you see people chiming in that agree with it, and it's like, wow.

02:30:47.000 And then people chime in that disagree.

02:30:49.000 Yep.

02:30:49.000 And those voices are all heard, and there's a place for all of them.

02:30:52.000 Yeah, and you just have to know that people do think certain ways.

02:30:56.000 You know, even if you don't like it, you have to know that people do think certain ways, and the answer to bad speech is not silencing speech.

02:31:03.000 It's better speech.

02:31:04.000 Better speech.

02:31:04.000 It's more compelling.

02:31:05.000 But you need to have a place where it can exist in order for there to be speech to even be consumed.

02:31:10.000 Right, and there was no place before he took over Twitter.

02:31:13.000 And that's the thing that the pendulum shift that we're talking about, where it's like, You have these pieces that came out that we thought were news.

02:31:20.000 Now we see them as hit pieces.

02:31:21.000 And I think kids that are growing up with all this information and disinformation and misinformation and all this shit, I think that for us it's a little bit more difficult, but for them they will have the ability to discern and understand that they have to do a little bit more research. 0.93

02:31:35.000 Yeah, I think it's we get caught victim of it like like old women when they get a phone call from some Nigerian prince and they need That's us with news now and we're like wait a minute fake things can exist, right? 0.98

02:31:47.000 But I think the kids are gonna grow up going.

02:31:49.000 Oh, yeah, everything's fake You just got to do some more research and figure it out.

02:31:52.000 Yeah, I hope that's my hope well enough kids listen to podcasts Which is what really bothers people that they're getting their information from people like us well, they They have to.

02:32:02.000 People like us don't have to lie.

02:32:03.000 We have zero incentive to lie.

02:32:06.000 And when we're talking about these things, like, this is what I know.

02:32:08.000 These are the facts.

02:32:10.000 This is real. 1.00

02:32:11.000 You're being fucked. 1.00

02:32:11.000 You're being lied to. 1.00

02:32:12.000 And it's not like there's not a motivation. 1.00

02:32:15.000 Look at the amount of money they're making by fucking you. 1.00

02:32:17.000 I mean, it's an insane sum of money that's involved in a lot of these decisions. 0.99

02:32:23.000 And these decisions roll on whether or not we complain or not.

02:32:26.000 But at least it kind of puts things in check.

02:32:28.000 Maybe that's the solution.

02:32:29.000 Just show how much money people are making.

02:32:31.000 Yeah.

02:32:32.000 Show how much money CNN makes from the pharmaceutical industry.

02:32:36.000 Oh, God.

02:32:36.000 And then you will look at every story about pharmaceuticals through that lens.

02:32:39.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

02:32:40.000 That's it.

02:32:40.000 Anderson Cooper.

02:32:41.000 They do it, like, right in your face.

02:32:42.000 In your face.

02:32:43.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

02:32:44.000 The vaccines are perfect.

02:32:45.000 Let's go to a commercial.

02:32:46.000 Yeah.

02:32:46.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

02:32:47.000 You will not get this virus.

02:32:49.000 You will not transmit this virus.

02:32:50.000 The virus stops with you.

02:32:52.000 And no one complains. 1.00

02:32:53.000 Now, do you think that the people that are disseminating the information are aware of the bullshit or they are the useful idiots? 1.00

02:33:01.000 I think at a certain point in time, they must be aware. 1.00

02:33:03.000 And if they're aware, they're evil.

02:33:05.000 They're trapped.

02:33:06.000 They're trapped.

02:33:07.000 Because I think initially, most people did think that the vaccines were going to work.

02:33:11.000 And it doesn't have to be vaccines.

02:33:12.000 It can be anything.

02:33:12.000 But once you're pushing out information that you know to be false, and you're potentially hurting people, it doesn't have to be vaccines.

02:33:18.000 It can be anything.

02:33:19.000 Right.

02:33:19.000 Now you're evil.

02:33:20.000 That's evil. 0.74

02:33:21.000 That's evil. 1.00

02:33:22.000 I don't fault someone who's maybe ignorant or a useful idiot or really passionate about a thing. 1.00

02:33:30.000 Not if you're motivated by the agenda of your sponsors. 0.99

02:33:49.000 If you know that you have to have a certain opinion on the platform, and that opinion is based on the people who are paying to sponsor the show, you are aware.

02:33:57.000 But that's also supported by these experts.

02:34:00.000 But like you know, we can find experts for anything.

02:34:02.000 Since you're not an expert, and you're just a talking head on CNN, your job is to say, but do you understand that the CDC has disagreed?

02:34:10.000 The FDA has said this is not approved.

02:34:12.000 The NIH has shown to various studies this is not correct.

02:34:18.000 And you can say that, and you'd be accurate.

02:34:20.000 You would be accurate as the news person on CNN that's telling a lie.

02:34:24.000 You have your justification so you can go home and sleep at night?

02:34:27.000 A lot of them don't even do any digging.

02:34:30.000 They're there to do their job.

02:34:32.000 They read the teleprompter. 0.99

02:34:33.000 They're fucking gambling on sports betting or something. 1.00

02:34:36.000 Who knows what the fuck they're doing with their spare time. 1.00

02:34:38.000 But we're just assuming these people are truth-tellers. 0.96

02:34:40.000 They're not.

02:34:41.000 We're assuming they're even journalists.

02:34:42.000 They're not.

02:34:43.000 Yeah.

02:34:44.000 Some of them are, but most of them are just talking heads.

02:34:46.000 Just pretty people that are good at reading.

02:34:48.000 That's the transition that we're going through right now, is just because someone is giving us information on a news platform with a ticker does not mean that they know anything that they're talking about.

02:34:57.000 It doesn't mean that it's necessarily true.

02:34:59.000 Not only that, we are sure they are highly motivated by money.

02:35:04.000 Yeah.

02:35:04.000 Highly motivated.

02:35:05.000 Sponsored by money, put in position by money.

02:35:07.000 The commercials, it's all money, [...

02:35:11.000 Yeah.

02:35:13.000 And no one's listening.

02:35:14.000 That's what's crazy.

02:35:15.000 But isn't that a beautiful thing?

02:35:17.000 It is a beautiful thing.

02:35:18.000 That means the people know and the people will seek out the information that they deem truthful.

02:35:22.000 Yes, there's going to be some wackos that seek out the most extreme versions. 0.94

02:35:25.000 Yes, that's us sometimes because it's really fun.

02:35:27.000 I want to indulge in all the conspiracies.

02:35:28.000 It's awesome.

02:35:29.000 It's fun.

02:35:30.000 But at the end of the day, when I have to make a real decision...

02:35:32.000 Right.

02:35:32.000 I'm going to seek out the information.

02:35:34.000 Right.

02:35:34.000 I'm going to read as many things as possible.

02:35:36.000 If it's my life on the line, or my kid's life on the line, or my friend's life on the line, I'm going to actually go out there and figure it out.

02:35:42.000 Hopefully.

02:35:43.000 And the thing is, if it's not for a few brave people that stand up and tell you the truth, how do you...

02:35:49.000 Okay, if there's no Peter McCullough, if there's no Robert Malone, if there's no RFK Jr...

02:35:55.000 If there's no Pierre Corey.

02:35:56.000 If there's none of these people that stand up and lose like a sizable portion of their income, their careers get destroyed, their reputations get dragged through the mud, hit pieces get written about them.

02:36:08.000 If it wasn't for these people that stand up and do that.

02:36:11.000 And I never would have imagined in my wildest dreams that I would get sucked into that.

02:36:16.000 What do you mean?

02:36:17.000 I never thought that I would get sucked into something like that where people would be lying about me.

02:36:23.000 But when you watch it, like on CNN, just flat out lying.

02:36:27.000 But it's wild. 1.00

02:36:29.000 And the dumbest lie. 1.00

02:36:31.000 Like, bitch, do you think I'm taking horse medicine? 1.00

02:36:35.000 You don't think I know really good doctors that are telling me what to take? 1.00

02:36:39.000 How about the fact that I got better quick?

02:36:41.000 That doesn't freak you out at all?

02:36:42.000 I got better real quick. 1.00

02:36:44.000 Oh, you were so happy, I bet, when that shit kicked. 1.00

02:36:46.000 What was it, 48 hours? 1.00

02:36:48.000 Yeah!

02:36:49.000 Like three days later, after I was sick, I made that video.

02:36:52.000 And I was fine.

02:36:53.000 Three days after that, I did 10 rounds on the bag.

02:36:55.000 Six days in, I did 10 rounds on the bag.

02:36:57.000 I'm like, let's see how I feel.

02:36:58.000 I worked out five days in.

02:37:00.000 I felt pretty good.

02:37:01.000 I said, all right, tomorrow, let's get after it. 0.99

02:37:02.000 And I did 10 fucking rounds on the bag. 0.99

02:37:06.000 Full clip. 1.00

02:37:06.000 No problems. 1.00

02:37:07.000 No problems.

02:37:08.000 No lack of energy.

02:37:09.000 I felt 100% six days later.

02:37:13.000 100%. 0.99

02:37:14.000 But I'm on top of my fucking health all day long, all year round. 0.99

02:37:17.000 I'm always in shape. 0.99

02:37:19.000 I always take vitamins.

02:37:20.000 I'm always eating well.

02:37:21.000 I sleep good.

02:37:23.000 I do a lot of things.

02:37:24.000 You can't say that everyone has to adhere to the rules of this thing when you're lying about the results, you're lying about the studies, you're...

02:37:34.000 You're influencing all these talking heads to say these things that turn out to not even be remotely true.

02:37:41.000 Not only that, there's no studies behind it.

02:37:43.000 They had to admit when they were speaking in front of whatever it was in the UK that they never even tested these drugs for transmission.

02:37:50.000 They just tested them to see if they created the antibodies. 0.98

02:37:53.000 And then all that other stuff they said was bullshit. 0.63

02:37:55.000 Yeah, that's the tricky thing about making rules for 300 million people, is that 300 million people are not the same. 1.00

02:38:01.000 The way that you take care of your body is completely different than some asshole that's a consultant, he's sitting at his fucking desk all day, he weighs 300 pounds. 0.98

02:38:08.000 And that rules, it's like an SAT. We have to find a way to judge intellect so that kids can go to school or not. 0.99

02:38:14.000 There's some kid who flunked the SATs who's a fucking genius, and he's going to go out there and make money. 0.98

02:38:19.000 He's just bored with these things and he doesn't pay any attention. 0.99

02:38:22.000 It's what you focus on. 0.99

02:38:24.000 You could be a very smart person who doesn't study and you take classes and you fucking bomb in your classes. 1.00

02:38:31.000 You suck. 1.00

02:38:31.000 Because you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

02:38:33.000 But if you ask that dude how to fucking fix a turbocharger, that dude knows how to re-engineer things. 0.98

02:38:39.000 This is the problem. 0.99

02:38:40.000 It's in the valves.

02:38:40.000 We have to fix the valves.

02:38:41.000 There's people that are genius at things that they're interested in. 1.00

02:38:45.000 But if you keep them in a classroom and they're bored of shit and feed them fucking dull-ass teachers that spoon-feed them shit that they're never gonna use, they're not gonna thrive. 1.00

02:38:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:39:01.000 Yeah, how do you create systems so that these people can thrive?

02:39:04.000 Well, you gotta have freedom.

02:39:06.000 That's a big one.

02:39:07.000 You know, freedom is one of the massive factors in this country's ability to churn out innovators.

02:39:13.000 There's so much freedom to do things, freedom to try things.

02:39:17.000 I love that it's part of the identity, that we feel entitled to it.

02:39:20.000 Yeah.

02:39:21.000 If you restrict it, I'm furious.

02:39:23.000 And other people are furious.

02:39:24.000 But that's not every country where they feel entitled to their freedom.

02:39:27.000 Right.

02:39:27.000 Well, that's a big thing about Texas.

02:39:29.000 Texas, it's built into the fiber of the human beings that established this place.

02:39:35.000 But that's why you need Texas.

02:39:36.000 You need Florida.

02:39:37.000 I don't care if you don't like it.

02:39:38.000 You need somebody pulling us in that direction because it's going to take LA or it's going to take New York.

02:39:44.000 It's going to pull them a little bit that way.

02:39:45.000 When we see people partying, having fun during fucking Corona in Texas and in Florida, we're like, well, maybe we can go out to eat. 0.85

02:39:52.000 What's going on? 0.98

02:39:53.000 Right.

02:39:54.000 But if everybody's locked in.

02:39:55.000 And there's nobody else out there.

02:39:57.000 Everyone's going to die.

02:39:58.000 I remember when Governor Abbott opened up things.

02:40:01.000 And they were like, what are you doing? 0.88

02:40:03.000 You're going to kill everyone.

02:40:04.000 Nope. 0.99

02:40:05.000 Nope, it didn't.

02:40:06.000 Did you talk to him?

02:40:07.000 Yeah.

02:40:07.000 And did you ask him if he was ever scared of that decision?

02:40:12.000 Because if that decision backfires, that's his...

02:40:14.000 He did it based on science.

02:40:16.000 He did it based on what we know about the disease.

02:40:19.000 The same thing that Florida said, protect the vulnerable.

02:40:23.000 Yeah, if you are an old person with a severely compromised immune system, you should get vaccinated, you should be protected, you should probably isolate. 1.00

02:40:31.000 It's just a brave decision.

02:40:33.000 There's a lot weighing on that.

02:40:34.000 Yeah.

02:40:34.000 Well, there's a lot of people here that wanted that decision, though, too, especially because he's a Republican.

02:40:39.000 You know, most of the Republicans wanted the businesses back open.

02:40:42.000 Most of the people are like, hey, you're taking away people's ability to make decisions, and you're giving the government an unprecedented power that it never had before.

02:40:50.000 The government, the mayor's never had the ability to shut down all the restaurants.

02:40:54.000 What?

02:40:55.000 And when they did that in LA, they had no effect whatsoever on their check.

02:40:59.000 Their paycheck remained the same.

02:41:01.000 Same, no matter what, yeah. 0.98

02:41:02.000 I think, you know, you want to make fucking cities great? 0.95

02:41:06.000 Have it so that the mayor's salary is based on how well the city does. 0.98

02:41:10.000 Ooh.

02:41:10.000 Now steel man the opposition argument to that.

02:41:15.000 Well, the government would co-opt it, and then these financial institutions would co-opt it, and they would figure out a way to build businesses up unethically.

02:41:24.000 And the best way to make more money is to pay people less, so you would have lower income wages, lower minimum wages.

02:41:32.000 That's where it gets tricky.

02:41:34.000 It's like, you go through this in New York, especially when you have an apartment or something like that, and you've got to go through all this bureaucracy when you're renovating your apartment.

02:41:41.000 That being said, what I do to my apartment Affects the person downstairs, upstairs, to the left, to the right.

02:41:47.000 So we have way more rules because we need them.

02:41:49.000 Because what I do fucks everybody else's life potentially. 1.00

02:41:53.000 You can drill holes in the wall and get a leaky fucking pipe. 1.00

02:41:55.000 People try to do it. 1.00

02:41:57.000 If they know you've got a drop ceiling, they're trying to drop pipes into your fucking ceiling. 0.99

02:42:00.000 You don't even see it. 0.99

02:42:02.000 Really?

02:42:02.000 This is...

02:42:03.000 Yes. 0.99

02:42:03.000 All the fucking time. 0.99

02:42:05.000 So they're like, oh, can I get access to your place and probe a wall to see something? 1.00

02:42:08.000 And they'll drop a fucking... 0.98

02:42:10.000 All their plumbing so they don't have to raise their floor. 0.99

02:42:12.000 There's things that they'll take advantage of their neighbor. 0.98

02:42:14.000 And because of that, you've got to create all these extra rules and it's a real fuck to go through. 0.95

02:42:19.000 Now, when you have three acres of land in... 0.96

02:42:22.000 You know, Texas, you can build a barn without people really looking at it that much because you're not affecting your neighbor.

02:42:28.000 So I do get why in certain places you need a little bit more of a bureaucracy because people will take advantage of each other.

02:42:35.000 So that does make sense.

02:42:37.000 You can't have all the same rules for all the same places.

02:42:40.000 It's not going to work.

02:42:42.000 Yeah, it's not gonna work.

02:42:43.000 You know what I mean?

02:42:43.000 Yeah.

02:42:43.000 But that's one of the cool things about this country.

02:42:45.000 It's basically like a bunch of countries.

02:42:47.000 Exactly.

02:42:47.000 It's like Europe.

02:42:48.000 That's the idea.

02:42:49.000 France is different than Germany, but they're all just smooshed up next to each other. 1.00

02:42:53.000 But when they were putting it together, they built it with that idea.

02:42:55.000 They're like, hey, listen, if I'm up in Maine, it takes me on horseback four months to get to fucking Washington, D.C. Why should your rules affect my rules? 0.91

02:43:03.000 Right. 0.96

02:43:04.000 Let me do my thing.

02:43:05.000 You do your thing. 0.99

02:43:05.000 We'll agree on ten fucking rules and then let's have some fun. 0.99

02:43:08.000 States rights. 1.00

02:43:09.000 There we go.

02:43:09.000 Yeah.

02:43:10.000 And it makes sense.

02:43:10.000 It does make sense.

02:43:11.000 It makes sense that you gravitate towards the places that fit with your liking, which is why psychopaths moved to Portland.

02:43:24.000 For real!

02:43:25.000 One thing, I imagine being born there, but willingly going.

02:43:29.000 Yeah, that's my people.

02:43:30.000 Yeah, that's a little bit.

02:43:31.000 You have 15 face piercings and you're on your way.

02:43:34.000 Raining every day.

02:43:35.000 Yeah, I want to be depressed.

02:43:36.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:43:37.000 The Oregon Trail, what idiots. 1.00

02:43:38.000 I'm looking forward to camping. 1.00

02:43:41.000 Imagine going across the whole country in fucking one of those little... 1.00

02:43:45.000 Covered wagons. 0.99

02:43:46.000 Covered wagons and then getting to Portland and you're like, for this?

02:43:49.000 Yeah.

02:43:50.000 Rains every day.

02:43:50.000 It's beautiful though.

02:43:52.000 It's gorgeous green.

02:43:54.000 Portland's gorgeous.

02:43:55.000 And parts of Oregon are fantastic.

02:43:57.000 Yep.

02:43:57.000 You know, where Cam lives.

02:43:59.000 Cam lives out in like Springfield, that area.

02:44:01.000 Oh, Cameron Haines.

02:44:02.000 Eugene.

02:44:02.000 Yeah.

02:44:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:44:03.000 It's beautiful.

02:44:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:44:04.000 Beautiful out there.

02:44:05.000 That's the thing about Oregon, too.

02:44:07.000 It's like, you have Portland, but everything else is red.

02:44:09.000 Yeah.

02:44:10.000 It's just like, but Portland just dominates the politics.

02:44:12.000 But that's usually how it is.

02:44:13.000 It's the high population centers.

02:44:14.000 Yeah, it's all ranchers and farmers.

02:44:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:44:17.000 And they're like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:44:17.000 And those cities, like the liberal cities that are in the very conservative states, are a reaction to how conservative the state is. 0.99

02:44:24.000 So they're like the most liberal.

02:44:25.000 Well, they're generally around education institutions.

02:44:28.000 Oh, so they're built around the universities, the ideas from the universities.

02:44:32.000 Eugene's very liberal.

02:44:33.000 Got it.

02:44:33.000 Because it's around the universities there.

02:44:35.000 Universities affect the, like, Boulder.

02:44:38.000 Boulder, Colorado, perfect one.

02:44:40.000 University of Boulder's right there. 0.99

02:44:41.000 It's fucking at every University of Colorado. 0.99

02:44:43.000 Everybody's liberal. 1.00

02:44:44.000 They're all hippies up there.

02:44:45.000 Because it's all, like, the city itself sort of, like, revolves around the education institutions and the vibe.

02:44:51.000 So the culture of the education institution dictates the culture of the city.

02:44:54.000 Sure, sure.

02:44:56.000 Yeah, that's why New York, I think, is so unique, because everybody thinks that we're this super liberal city, and it's a money city.

02:45:03.000 Money wins in New York.

02:45:04.000 In the Manhattan, yeah.

02:45:06.000 A lot of it's the financial business.

02:45:08.000 But if you go to Long Island, that's very red.

02:45:10.000 I think even Manhattan is red. 0.82

02:45:14.000 We're open when it comes to gay stuff, right?

02:45:17.000 We love our gays.

02:45:19.000 They create great cultural institutions within the city.

02:45:21.000 You like going to Broadway.

02:45:22.000 You like seeing musical theater.

02:45:24.000 They offer a lot.

02:45:25.000 You like the art.

02:45:26.000 You're coming to New York for art.

02:45:27.000 They offer so much.

02:45:28.000 So we're like, yeah, those guys are dope. 0.97

02:45:30.000 Kick it. 0.95

02:45:30.000 That's awesome. 0.95

02:45:31.000 A lot of gay chefs.

02:45:32.000 A lot of gay artists. 1.00

02:45:33.000 Gays kill it in New York. 1.00

02:45:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:45:34.000 And they create a lot for us. 1.00

02:45:35.000 Singers. 0.93

02:45:35.000 And we really appreciate it. 0.93

02:45:36.000 And it's amazing.

02:45:38.000 But when it comes to actual, like, the rules, New York is kind of conservative.

02:45:43.000 Like, we've had conservative mayors. 0.98

02:45:45.000 Like, Bloomberg wasn't some fucking, like, bleeding heart liberal. 0.99

02:45:47.000 He's a money dude. 0.99

02:45:48.000 Right.

02:45:49.000 He just came in.

02:45:49.000 He was like, yo, if we can't pay for it, I'll pay for it.

02:45:51.000 You pay me back.

02:45:51.000 And we're like, I like this guy.

02:45:53.000 This is fucking Bruce Wayne. 0.99

02:45:54.000 Right. 1.00

02:45:54.000 You know? 1.00

02:45:55.000 So, yeah, I think the perception of New York is a little weird.

02:45:58.000 How come that guy didn't go any further in politics?

02:46:01.000 No charisma.

02:46:02.000 Is that what it is?

02:46:02.000 Yeah, New Yorkers, we don't care about charisma with the mayors, really.

02:46:05.000 We don't even know who our politicians are.

02:46:07.000 Like, I just found out we have a female governor. 1.00

02:46:09.000 I had no fucking clue who the governor is. 0.98

02:46:11.000 LA's out to lunch. 0.99

02:46:13.000 I have no clue.

02:46:13.000 But New Yorkers, we don't care.

02:46:15.000 The mayor of New York City is the governor of the state.

02:46:18.000 Interesting.

02:46:19.000 Right, right.

02:46:19.000 That's the leader.

02:46:21.000 You're saying what's going on here, and that's all that matters.

02:46:26.000 That's the only thing we really think about is the city.

02:46:29.000 What is it like there now with the immigrants? 1.00

02:46:32.000 So here's the thing.

02:46:34.000 New York is so diverse, you can't tell immigrants are there. 1.00

02:46:38.000 Does that make sense?

02:46:38.000 Right.

02:46:39.000 If there's other cities that are really homogenous, they're all white, and then all of a sudden a bunch of not-white people come, you're like, oh my god, we got immigrants everywhere.

02:46:46.000 But for a New Yorker to be like, I think we got some immigrants here, it's impossible. 1.00

02:46:50.000 Right.

02:46:51.000 Everybody's an immigrant.

02:46:52.000 Everybody's brown. 0.99

02:46:54.000 Everybody's black.

02:46:54.000 Everybody's Asian.

02:46:55.000 Like, there's all these different ones.

02:46:57.000 Right.

02:46:57.000 The tricky thing with, you're talking about the migrant crisis, is that they're taking advantage of a, New York is like the biggest state in the country.

02:47:05.000 It's like, I think maybe the only big city that has a right to shelter.

02:47:09.000 Right.

02:47:10.000 Right.

02:47:10.000 It's the only one of this size that has a right to shelter.

02:47:13.000 And it used to be for homeless people.

02:47:14.000 It's only for homeless people. 0.83

02:47:15.000 Yeah.

02:47:16.000 They're taking advantage of a system that's built for homeless people, which is pretty fucking good if you ask me, when you have the financial hub of the world, you want people sleeping on the streets, you go, no, let's put some money so they can go inside.

02:47:27.000 And homeless people are supposed to basically enter in and out of homelessness.

02:47:31.000 The idea is, give them some shelter, maybe they can get back out on their feet.

02:47:35.000 Right.

02:47:35.000 The migrants hear about this and they're like, what, free housing?

02:47:39.000 Let's get up there.

02:47:40.000 So they're taking advantage of a system that is not for them.

02:47:43.000 And I think when New Yorkers have kind of learned that, they're like, ooh, there's something unethical about this.

02:47:50.000 And I think that's where a lot of the pushback is happening.

02:47:52.000 But in terms of visually being able to see it, it's not something that New Yorkers notice.

02:47:57.000 We just can't.

02:47:58.000 The news makes it seem like it is.

02:48:00.000 We see the article, oh, this guy beats up the police or something like that.

02:48:04.000 But in terms of when you're walking down the street, it is not detectable.

02:48:08.000 So unless you're near one of these places like the Roosevelt Hotel that they've converted...

02:48:13.000 The Roosevelt is like the one that's right across the street from Madison Square Garden.

02:48:18.000 You know the hotel.

02:48:19.000 Yeah.

02:48:20.000 I couldn't believe they converted the whole thing. 0.98

02:48:22.000 It's an iconic hotel. 0.99

02:48:23.000 It was in that fucking Jennifer Lopez movie. 1.00

02:48:26.000 Oh yeah, she worked there. 1.00

02:48:27.000 When she's the maid?

02:48:28.000 When she's the maid, yeah. 0.99

02:48:29.000 But this is like a hotel we all know.

02:48:31.000 We see it after every Knicks game.

02:48:32.000 It's like you can't fathom that the whole hotel?

02:48:35.000 Yeah.

02:48:37.000 And also that system that was set up for the homeless was already operating at capacity.

02:48:41.000 And then you increase the amount of migrants into the city by 50%.

02:48:44.000 I think it went up 50% in the last couple of years.

02:48:47.000 Of course there's going to be this insane overflow and it just can't handle it.

02:48:50.000 Nuts.

02:48:50.000 It just can't handle it.

02:48:51.000 But they're taking advantage of something that's not for them.

02:48:53.000 So I understand the frustration about it.

02:48:55.000 But is there any kind of pushback to try to put a stop to that?

02:48:59.000 100%.

02:49:00.000 What are they doing?

02:49:01.000 Nothing.

02:49:02.000 Joe, everybody's doing what benefits them.

02:49:05.000 And the politicians are shrewd.

02:49:07.000 Adams is shrewd.

02:49:08.000 He told the Governor Hochul, I think her name is, he was like, listen, I think we're going to have to shut down a new recruitment class for the police.

02:49:17.000 We don't have any more money because we got all these migrants. 1.00

02:49:19.000 I mean, you guys got to do something about that.

02:49:20.000 You got to give me some more money.

02:49:22.000 He got some more money?

02:49:23.000 He didn't shut down anything.

02:49:25.000 So he got more money, and now he's funding everything that he needs to fund, and I don't know if anything is changing.

02:49:30.000 So everybody's playing politics as well.

02:49:33.000 Well, wasn't he involved in some sort of a thing where they were giving the debit cards to the immigrants, the illegal migrants, and they were all getting a piece?

02:49:42.000 50 is like, yo, what the hell is going on with this?

02:49:45.000 50 is the best.

02:49:47.000 He's the best.

02:49:48.000 Bro, we gotta hang with 50 sometimes.

02:49:50.000 I only met him once.

02:49:51.000 I met him at the UFC. He was cool as shit. 0.99

02:49:54.000 Back in the day, I interviewed him. 0.99

02:49:56.000 Wait, really?

02:49:56.000 Yeah, yeah, for the UFC. Yeah, it was real quick.

02:49:59.000 He was a celebrity, sitting cage-side.

02:50:03.000 Bro, he's...

02:50:04.000 Dude...

02:50:04.000 He goes all in, bro.

02:50:06.000 He goes all in.

02:50:06.000 We hung out in Boston once, and he was telling me hood stories from Queens, because he was really in that life.

02:50:12.000 And it was blowing my mind.

02:50:14.000 It was like somebody explaining The Godfather to you.

02:50:17.000 If you've never saw the movie.

02:50:18.000 Wow.

02:50:19.000 You're like, this happens?

02:50:20.000 This is real?

02:50:21.000 Yeah, just like... 1.00

02:50:22.000 He's a fucking man. 1.00

02:50:25.000 Anyway... 1.00

02:50:25.000 How come he's never been on your show? 1.00

02:50:26.000 I want to get him on.

02:50:28.000 I mean, we just connected for the first time when I was doing the shows up in Boston.

02:50:30.000 He was there as well.

02:50:32.000 But I want him on, too.

02:50:33.000 It's a perfect podcast, guys.

02:50:35.000 Oh, dude, he...

02:50:35.000 He goes all in.

02:50:36.000 He goes all in. 1.00

02:50:37.000 That shit on The Breakfast Club with him about Diddy? 1.00

02:50:40.000 Bro. 1.00

02:50:40.000 Bro, and he's been that way forever. 1.00

02:50:43.000 You know that, right?

02:50:43.000 He's like, why is this guy trying to take me shopping?

02:50:46.000 He goes, what? 0.99

02:50:48.000 What the fuck did he just say? 1.00

02:50:51.000 What the fuck did he just say? 1.00

02:50:55.000 Did you see when Diddy went on? 0.99

02:50:56.000 He goes, I was just trying to be nice.

02:50:58.000 I thought he wanted some clothes.

02:50:59.000 He goes, I thought he needed some clothes.

02:51:02.000 That's like a subtle jab, too.

02:51:03.000 That was funny.

02:51:04.000 A little bit.

02:51:05.000 But also, like, what?

02:51:07.000 Them going at it is just hilarious.

02:51:09.000 50's one of those dudes where it's like, if 50 don't like you, I gotta hear him out.

02:51:13.000 Yeah.

02:51:14.000 I gotta hear him out.

02:51:15.000 Yeah.

02:51:15.000 He might know something.

02:51:16.000 Right.

02:51:17.000 He might be onto something.

02:51:19.000 Yeah.

02:51:20.000 He's wild.

02:51:21.000 Yeah, we gotta go to dinner at 5th.

02:51:22.000 Yeah.

02:51:22.000 He's wild.

02:51:23.000 I like when they were going after him for some financial support or something like that.

02:51:27.000 He said, I'm bankrupt.

02:51:28.000 Yeah.

02:51:32.000 He's like, I don't got it.

02:51:33.000 What?

02:51:33.000 I don't got it.

02:51:35.000 $400 million deal from fucking vitamin water. 1.00

02:51:37.000 The next fucking Instagram post, he's got a Bentley. 1.00

02:51:43.000 He's smart, dude. 1.00

02:51:44.000 He'll play the system.

02:51:45.000 He knows how to do it.

02:51:47.000 It's hilarious.

02:51:48.000 Let him write all the articles.

02:51:49.000 Oh, 50's broke.

02:51:50.000 Whatever you want.

02:51:52.000 And he's got his dudes from day one with him still.

02:51:55.000 That's something I always think is really cool.

02:51:57.000 That's important.

02:52:00.000 When are you coming back to New York, man?

02:52:01.000 I don't know.

02:52:03.000 I'm gonna be there for the UFC in Jersey.

02:52:05.000 All right.

02:52:05.000 That's in June, I guess.

02:52:07.000 Okay.

02:52:07.000 Yeah, I'll be there for a little while.

02:52:08.000 Okay, good.

02:52:09.000 You don't miss it at all?

02:52:10.000 Mm-mm.

02:52:11.000 Any place you miss?

02:52:12.000 Nope.

02:52:13.000 Not a single place?

02:52:14.000 No, I'm not like a misser kind of a guy.

02:52:15.000 What about foreign?

02:52:16.000 Like a place that you want to go back to?

02:52:17.000 I like going to visit places.

02:52:18.000 Yeah.

02:52:19.000 Yeah, I like visiting places.

02:52:20.000 But it's like, I love Texas.

02:52:22.000 Yeah.

02:52:23.000 I love being right here.

02:52:24.000 Yeah.

02:52:25.000 Like right away.

02:52:26.000 Like right away, I was like, ooh, this is it.

02:52:28.000 This is the spot.

02:52:29.000 Yeah.

02:52:30.000 It's the perfect balance for me.

02:52:31.000 I love it.

02:52:32.000 Yeah.

02:52:32.000 I really do.

02:52:34.000 I miss what L.A. used to be, but I think we've done that and more at the mothership.

02:52:41.000 What L.A. was for me was my friends, the life that I lived, the people that I communicated with all the time, and the comedy store.

02:52:52.000 And you built that out here.

02:52:53.000 And we built that out here.

02:52:54.000 And we made it even better.

02:52:57.000 Anything from L.A. that you still want to bring out?

02:53:01.000 Besides Joey Diaz.

02:53:02.000 Joey's in New Jersey, but Joey's been coming out.

02:53:05.000 But he's from LA for you.

02:53:07.000 But Joey was sick of it before anybody was.

02:53:11.000 Joey was sick of it before anybody was. 1.00

02:53:14.000 When I left the Comedy Store in 2007, Joey was like, good, fuck that place. 1.00

02:53:21.000 Joey's a burn the bridges kind of guy. 1.00

02:53:24.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

02:53:26.000 And he was the first guy to... 0.99

02:53:29.000 I think he moved to Jersey early on, man.

02:53:32.000 Like, right around the time I was moving to Texas, he was moving to Jersey. 0.98

02:53:34.000 He's like, I'm getting the fuck out of here. 0.83

02:53:36.000 I was trying to get him to come out of here, but he wasn't interested. 0.99

02:53:39.000 He loves Jersey.

02:53:40.000 But I think he'll eventually come out of here.

02:53:42.000 There we go.

02:53:43.000 Yeah, he loved it when he was here, man.

02:53:46.000 I had him out here for three days, and I got him out here for 420 weekend out here.

02:53:50.000 Nice.

02:53:50.000 And, you know, when he's out here, it's like he misses the hang.

02:53:54.000 The hang, yeah.

02:53:55.000 He misses being around comics, misses the green room.

02:53:58.000 How was the energy in the green room when he was there?

02:54:00.000 Phenomenal.

02:54:00.000 It was just such a party.

02:54:02.000 On fire?

02:54:02.000 It was such a party.

02:54:03.000 And everybody was like, dude, I feel like Joey just belonged there.

02:54:06.000 He just sat down in the green room, and he's like, he's always been here.

02:54:10.000 Because it kind of always has been here. 0.99

02:54:12.000 That sign, get it together, bitch, that's on the wall, that's Joey. 1.00

02:54:16.000 That's what he always used to say. 1.00

02:54:17.000 When you get ready to go on stage, it's like, get it together, bitch! 1.00

02:54:20.000 It was like that meant the party was about to jump off. 0.99

02:54:24.000 So to have that neon sign in the green room, the spirit of Joey has always been there.

02:54:29.000 That's your last Avenger, bro.

02:54:31.000 You get that together.

02:54:33.000 He's the Hulk.

02:54:34.000 Yeah, that's facts.

02:54:34.000 You call him in.

02:54:36.000 You call him in when you need the Hulk.

02:54:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:54:39.000 Fucking Joey, man. 1.00

02:54:40.000 He's been murdering on stage, too. 1.00

02:54:42.000 Really?

02:54:42.000 He hasn't lost a beat.

02:54:43.000 Really?

02:54:43.000 He hasn't lost a beat.

02:54:44.000 Yeah.

02:54:44.000 Does he go up in Jersey?

02:54:45.000 He goes up.

02:54:46.000 He goes up a couple times a week just to keep the dust off of it.

02:54:48.000 Yeah.

02:54:49.000 But when he came here, he was tuned in, man.

02:54:51.000 Really?

02:54:51.000 He was ready to go.

02:54:52.000 Oh, my God.

02:54:52.000 He was hilarious.

02:54:54.000 I'll tell you some of the shit he was saying. 1.00

02:54:56.000 He's so crazy. 1.00

02:54:57.000 Wait, wait, wait. 1.00

02:54:58.000 He's so wild.

02:54:59.000 I don't want to give up his bits, but oh my god, he's so wild.

02:55:02.000 He's so fun, man.

02:55:03.000 And it's always fun.

02:55:05.000 It's fun with him.

02:55:06.000 Everything's fun.

02:55:06.000 Everything is good times.

02:55:08.000 Everybody gets hugs.

02:55:09.000 He loves you.

02:55:09.000 He tells everybody he loves them.

02:55:11.000 He's the party.

02:55:13.000 Nah, he's fantastic, man.

02:55:14.000 Yeah.

02:55:15.000 His stories.

02:55:15.000 I remember when he came on, on the pod.

02:55:18.000 I mean, his stories, just being in Colorado, those stories.

02:55:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:55:21.000 It's a movie.

02:55:23.000 Like, you're watching a movie in your head. 1.00

02:55:24.000 Just this mook, just fucking walking around Colorado, taking advantage of all these dumb idiots. 1.00

02:55:30.000 They're like, oh, the trees are green. 1.00

02:55:32.000 Like, I'm going to take all of their money.

02:55:35.000 It was just amazing.

02:55:37.000 Yeah.

02:55:38.000 And the fact that he gets into stand-up comedy.

02:55:41.000 He's just such a character, man.

02:55:43.000 There's no Joey Diaz other than him.

02:55:46.000 I don't know anybody like him.

02:55:47.000 Yeah.

02:55:49.000 You get real lucky in this world that we live in, that you get to be close to these exceptional human beings.

02:55:57.000 They're just different.

02:55:58.000 They're just different than anybody else you know.

02:56:00.000 You collect a lot of these guys, I've noticed.

02:56:03.000 A lot of your friends, they're these unique personalities, especially the non-comics.

02:56:11.000 But they're these kind of misfits that I've noticed. 1.00

02:56:15.000 Even your buddy, was it Tommy, who plays Poole? 0.99

02:56:18.000 Every one of your guys that I meet, within 15 minutes, they're telling me a story that just blows my fucking mind. 0.92

02:56:24.000 And it's really interesting. 0.91

02:56:26.000 They're unique in their own right, but they are these characters that should be in movies.

02:56:32.000 Yeah.

02:56:33.000 Yeah, it's a cultivation of extraordinary humans.

02:56:36.000 Yeah.

02:56:37.000 Yeah, life's more fun that way.

02:56:39.000 Yeah!

02:56:40.000 It makes your life richer.

02:56:42.000 You enjoy it.

02:56:43.000 Yeah.

02:56:43.000 And when they win, you win.

02:56:44.000 Everybody wins.

02:56:45.000 Yeah.

02:56:46.000 It's all, everybody's having a good time.

02:56:48.000 Yeah.

02:56:48.000 And that's possible.

02:56:49.000 That could be done.

02:56:50.000 Yes.

02:56:51.000 Yeah, it's just, but you have to cultivate it the same way you cultivate a garden.

02:56:54.000 Yeah.

02:56:55.000 And you gotta root it out, too.

02:56:56.000 Yeah.

02:56:56.000 You gotta have some bad apples in there.

02:56:58.000 Yeah.

02:56:58.000 Gotta get them out.

02:56:59.000 Yeah.

02:56:59.000 Gotta get them out.

02:57:01.000 Yeah, that can be tricky times.

02:57:03.000 Yeah.

02:57:07.000 I miss Joey.

02:57:07.000 I gotta call Joey.

02:57:09.000 He'll be out here soon.

02:57:10.000 Yeah.

02:57:10.000 I gotta drag him into the city.

02:57:12.000 I wish he'd come.

02:57:13.000 I mean, he's kind of far.

02:57:14.000 Like, you know, where is he?

02:57:15.000 Like, Cherry Hill or something like that, right?

02:57:17.000 He's in, like, down there.

02:57:19.000 Yeah, so he's not, like, come in from the night.

02:57:21.000 No, he's an hour from the city.

02:57:22.000 Yeah.

02:57:23.000 Yeah.

02:57:23.000 That's the thing.

02:57:24.000 It's an hour.

02:57:24.000 If he's 20 minutes, then, you know.

02:57:27.000 Yeah.

02:57:27.000 He does a lot of Jersey rooms.

02:57:28.000 He'll do the Stress Factory.

02:57:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:57:30.000 He'll fuck around down there. 1.00

02:57:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:57:32.000 Do a lot of, you know, local gigs.

02:57:34.000 You know, there's gigs now. 0.99

02:57:35.000 There's a lot of places you could work just to fuck around, just keep the dust off. 0.99

02:57:40.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:57:41.000 You know?

02:57:44.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:57:45.000 Yeah, him coming on was just fucking great. 0.95

02:57:47.000 Yeah, we're lucky we know all these people, man. 0.95

02:57:49.000 We're very lucky.

02:57:50.000 There's people out there that don't have any exceptional people in their life.

02:57:54.000 And they live through these conversations that we have with those people vicariously.

02:57:57.000 Yeah.

02:57:58.000 Because those people become a part of their life, too. 0.99

02:58:00.000 Like, oh shit, Schultz is on! 0.99

02:58:02.000 And they get excited. 0.99

02:58:02.000 I will say that's the cool thing about people knowing you from podcasting, is that they probably know more about your life than even some of your friends do. 0.99

02:58:11.000 Oh yeah.

02:58:11.000 Because they're hanging out with you for hours a week.

02:58:13.000 So when they meet you, they're meeting this person they know a lot about, not this character from a TV show that is not reflective of you at all.

02:58:22.000 Right.

02:58:23.000 You're not Ross from Friends.

02:58:25.000 Right, right, right.

02:58:26.000 Because Ross might be completely different than Ross from Friends.

02:58:28.000 And I can understand why you might resent people loving you for a character you play when you know you're not that character.

02:58:35.000 But if people appreciate you for what you do, either in stand-up or even podcasting or whatever, it's like they're appreciating this thing you really care about and a true version of yourself.

02:58:45.000 Yes.

02:58:46.000 So the love feels worth it.

02:58:50.000 It feels justified. 0.82

02:58:51.000 That's also why it's very difficult to cast someone in an unfavorable light that people already know.

02:58:57.000 Like the Huberman thing, where you try to take a distorted version of that person and say, this is who they really are.

02:59:03.000 He talks to them four hours a week.

02:59:05.000 Yeah.

02:59:06.000 You're not going to change the way that they feel about him.

02:59:09.000 He also talks to other people like you or me where we're fucking around, joking around, you get to see the real him.

02:59:14.000 It's not just the distribution of information.

02:59:16.000 It's also like, this is the guy.

02:59:18.000 This is who he is.

02:59:19.000 Yeah.

02:59:20.000 He's gonna be okay.

02:59:21.000 Oh, he's be better than ever.

02:59:22.000 Yeah.

02:59:23.000 Yeah, he's fine.

02:59:24.000 Yeah.

02:59:25.000 And it's good that people see...

02:59:27.000 It's good that people see that he's at a position where...

02:59:31.000 They want to attack him.

02:59:32.000 Yeah.

02:59:33.000 That means he's doing something good.

02:59:34.000 Well, he's a target, and if you're popular and famous, you're a target.

02:59:38.000 And if you're going to be the type of person that goes after those people, that's a dark path.

02:59:45.000 It's not a good path.

02:59:47.000 And you become a target, too.

02:59:48.000 They find you.

02:59:50.000 Well, that's, yeah.

02:59:51.000 What we were saying is, I think it's important that when these people are writing these clearly biased hit pieces, that they're also recognized for what they've done.

03:00:00.000 Yeah.

03:00:01.000 And the world will see that if you put out something like this, there is a cost.

03:00:08.000 Yeah.

03:00:08.000 You're not doing it with impunity.

03:00:10.000 It's also there's a cost in your own mind.

03:00:12.000 You know what you did. 1.00

03:00:12.000 These motherfuckers, I don't think they care. 1.00

03:00:15.000 I think they do and they don't. 1.00

03:00:17.000 I think they think they can do it because they're supposed to do it because that's their job.

03:00:20.000 But I think once the impact comes back their way...

03:00:22.000 They're like, I don't want to pay this price.

03:00:24.000 Yeah, the blowback is awful.

03:00:25.000 And that blowback is...

03:00:26.000 It stays on you.

03:00:27.000 It doesn't...

03:00:27.000 People Google that for years to come.

03:00:30.000 They'll know when you write something else.

03:00:31.000 I never trust anything you put out again.

03:00:33.000 This is...

03:00:34.000 Yeah.

03:00:34.000 And then they'll dig into your past, man.

03:00:37.000 They'll find some things that you did.

03:00:39.000 They'll find some people that are upset at you.

03:00:41.000 Mm-hmm.

03:00:42.000 You know?

03:00:42.000 And it's also...

03:00:43.000 It's just like negative energy.

03:00:45.000 You're putting out negative energy.

03:00:47.000 People that build people up, people that build...

03:00:50.000 People up through their own version of reality that they're writing about and they're inspiring people and they're giving people hope and they're giving people something positive.

03:01:01.000 That's a great blow.

03:01:03.000 The response to that is like this beautiful thing that everybody's helping everybody advance through this bizarre existence.

03:01:12.000 But if you're the person that's just always knocking people down, always attacking, you live in that negative space.

03:01:18.000 Even like, dude, when I had that whole thing with Mencia, even that, which I knew A, had to be done, and B, I was one of the only people that was in a position To do it, yeah.

03:01:30.000 And even though I did experience, I experienced a lot of blowback, even career blowback.

03:01:35.000 I lost my agency.

03:01:36.000 I got banned from the store.

03:01:38.000 And even me, at the time, who was doing well, knew that, like, this is why people don't do this.

03:01:44.000 Because this is the real reaction to someone that steps up and says something about something that has to be said. 0.74

03:01:51.000 But even the negative shit that I would get, this was back in the I Read the Comments days, The negative response from his fans. 0.99

03:01:59.000 It was awful. 1.00

03:02:01.000 It was awful.

03:02:02.000 You don't want that in your life.

03:02:03.000 Even though I knew it was the right thing to do, I remember saying to myself, like, I'm not gonna get involved in one of these again.

03:02:09.000 I'm done with this.

03:02:10.000 This is gross. 0.99

03:02:12.000 It's like you're at the center point of this Nasty, negative thing. 0.97

03:02:19.000 Even though, for the art form, it was positive.

03:02:23.000 The negativity that I experienced, even though it was overwhelmingly positive, just the small amount of negativity is not worth it.

03:02:33.000 It felt bad for a long time.

03:02:35.000 I didn't like it.

03:02:36.000 And I didn't even like all the people that were constantly and consistently attacking him.

03:02:40.000 I don't like it.

03:02:42.000 I don't like any of it.

03:02:43.000 I don't like that every time he makes a comment, like, every time you post something, you steal that.

03:02:49.000 You've opened the door to the lowest version of the vibration that humans give.

03:02:55.000 The attacking, breaking you down. 0.98

03:02:58.000 I can kick you because you're down. 0.98

03:03:00.000 And they're just kicking him. 0.98

03:03:01.000 And, you know, in a lot of ways, he deserves it.

03:03:03.000 Because that's what he did.

03:03:04.000 That was his legacy.

03:03:05.000 That's what he did.

03:03:05.000 He stole material from comedians and created a career off of the back of other people's work.

03:03:12.000 And in every other business, that's theft.

03:03:14.000 In every other business, you get penalized, you go to court.

03:03:18.000 If it's music, you lose all your money.

03:03:20.000 And in this one, for whatever reason, our business, people don't take intellectual copyright nearly as seriously.

03:03:27.000 Jokes are thought of as not an important thing.

03:03:29.000 It's not like literature.

03:03:31.000 It's not like plagiarism.

03:03:32.000 They don't realize we pay the bills with this.

03:03:34.000 This is what we do.

03:03:35.000 It's how we feed our families.

03:03:35.000 And it is creative work.

03:03:37.000 It's difficult to do.

03:03:38.000 It takes hours.

03:03:39.000 It takes months.

03:03:40.000 It takes years.

03:03:41.000 Some bits takes forever to construct, to make them, where you can just rattle them off.

03:03:46.000 There's some bits that, you know, they just, they require years of, like, hammering that steel and sharpening that blade.

03:03:54.000 It takes forever.

03:03:55.000 I think that's the best metaphor for it.

03:03:57.000 It is sharpening a blade.

03:03:58.000 You're banging away at it constantly.

03:03:59.000 Constantly.

03:04:00.000 And you're doing it wrong, and you've got to Correct it.

03:04:02.000 You're doing it right.

03:04:03.000 You got to remember it.

03:04:04.000 Yeah, you got to go over the recordings.

03:04:06.000 You got to sit down with the notes.

03:04:08.000 Step away.

03:04:08.000 Come back a couple months.

03:04:09.000 Oh, okay.

03:04:10.000 This is exciting.

03:04:12.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

03:04:13.000 But yeah, to take somebody's work like that is infuriating.

03:04:16.000 But it's a really interesting perspective to have for you to even look back at that and find empathy for him.

03:04:22.000 Oh, I definitely have empathy for him.

03:04:23.000 I have empathy for everybody and people that make horrible mistakes like he did for so long.

03:04:29.000 I have empathy for him.

03:04:30.000 And it's the trap that he's in because he won't admit it either is the worst.

03:04:34.000 That's the worst.

03:04:35.000 Wait a minute, to this day?

03:04:36.000 Yeah, he won't admit it.

03:04:37.000 So he's trapped.

03:04:38.000 He's trapped in this justification that nobody believes and he tries to spin a tale that nobody believes.

03:04:45.000 Because the truth is the only thing that'll set you free.

03:04:50.000 Yeah.

03:04:50.000 And the problem with those people, and there's a bunch of them, and we know quite a few of them, is there are people that start their careers stealing.

03:04:58.000 Yeah.

03:04:59.000 And they do really well. 0.98

03:05:00.000 And they kill it. 0.99

03:05:01.000 And then they get exposed. 1.00

03:05:02.000 And then they have to write their own shit. 1.00

03:05:04.000 And it doesn't add up. 1.00

03:05:06.000 Oh boy, that drop-off.

03:05:07.000 Oh boy, is that drop-off substantial.

03:05:10.000 Yeah.

03:05:10.000 There are people that had initial specials that were bangers.

03:05:14.000 And then after that initial special, everything after that is hot dog shit. 1.00

03:05:18.000 Clunky. 0.99

03:05:19.000 Because now they gotta do the work.

03:05:20.000 Now they have to do the work, and they don't know how to do it.

03:05:22.000 They don't understand the language they're speaking.

03:05:23.000 It's basically like speaking French, but you don't know what the words mean.

03:05:27.000 But you say, parlez-vous français, and everybody's like, amazing! 1.00

03:05:30.000 But you don't know what the fuck you're saying. 1.00

03:05:32.000 You spoke French in a movie. 1.00

03:05:33.000 Yeah.

03:05:34.000 And they gave you all the lines, and you did the lines, and everybody's like, this person's fluent in French.

03:05:39.000 And now you've got to go to Paris and walk around.

03:05:41.000 And people are speaking to you in French. 0.99

03:05:42.000 And you're like, I don't understand a fucking word anybody's saying. 0.94

03:05:45.000 The language of comedy, too, is something that you... 0.98

03:05:48.000 The type of mindset that would make a person steal someone's bit and do it verbatim on stage is the exact opposite mindset of a creative person.

03:05:59.000 Because you want to do the different thing.

03:06:00.000 You want to do the unique thing.

03:06:01.000 You want to have to take nobody else has.

03:06:03.000 Right.

03:06:03.000 Which is the banger.

03:06:05.000 When you go, well, hold on.

03:06:07.000 What about that?

03:06:08.000 And it was like, ah!

03:06:09.000 Who told them that? 0.98

03:06:10.000 How come that just fucking stopped being an issue? 0.96

03:06:12.000 The beautiful thing about a joke is that it always is existing. 0.95

03:06:16.000 The great ones are always existing right in front of us.

03:06:19.000 And we just haven't grabbed on it. 1.00

03:06:20.000 So when somebody says it, you're like, you motherfucker. 1.00

03:06:23.000 Exactly. 1.00

03:06:23.000 How did I not? 1.00

03:06:25.000 Exactly.

03:06:26.000 That's the best feeling when someone has a bit, you're like, why didn't I think of that?

03:06:29.000 That's the best feeling.

03:06:30.000 When someone comes up to you and goes, oh my god, that bit is so good.

03:06:33.000 And it can be simple.

03:06:34.000 It can be such a simple...

03:06:36.000 But that requires it...

03:06:38.000 You're not thinking about yourself.

03:06:41.000 You're thinking about the work, the thing, the piece that you're working on.

03:06:45.000 When you're a person who thinks about themselves, you're like, I'm gonna kill by saying these things, and I'm gonna get this.

03:06:51.000 You're literally blocking creativity.

03:06:55.000 Yeah.

03:06:55.000 And so then when they have to be creative, it's terrible.

03:06:58.000 They just never learned.

03:06:59.000 They don't know how to do it.

03:07:00.000 They never spend the time in the gym.

03:07:01.000 They don't know how to lift the weights.

03:07:02.000 They just don't know what it is. 0.79

03:07:03.000 And they're pretending they're black belts.

03:07:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:07:05.000 They're out there pretending to be a black belt with all the confidence of a black belt, but they got bullshit moves. 1.00

03:07:10.000 Yeah, and they get knocked out. 1.00

03:07:11.000 Yeah, they get fucked up. 0.99

03:07:12.000 No, that does happen. 0.99

03:07:13.000 Yeah.

03:07:14.000 It's hilarious when you see a really bad special from a known thief. 0.95

03:07:20.000 And some of them, they'll still step on premises that they know other people have done, and it still sucks.

03:07:26.000 Because they can't steal anymore.

03:07:28.000 The language is the best way of putting it.

03:07:30.000 It's like...

03:07:32.000 You don't understand the language of comedy. 1.00

03:07:33.000 Yeah, it is a fucking... 0.99

03:07:34.000 And that's something I wonder, like, the people who start really young... 0.99

03:07:38.000 Like, you know how, like, when you learn a language young, you have a way greater aptitude for it, and there's a fluency and a comfort within it?

03:07:45.000 Whereas if you try to learn a language at, like, 40...

03:07:48.000 Maybe it's just not going to be as strong.

03:07:49.000 Like, you can memorize vocabulary.

03:07:50.000 You can do all these things.

03:07:51.000 It's just a little bit harder for you to be, like, natural.

03:07:53.000 Well, you don't have the resources because you don't have, like, when you're 40, you have bills and family and obligations and things that are bothering you all day long.

03:08:00.000 Yeah.

03:08:00.000 When you're 15 or 12, you don't have any of those problems.

03:08:04.000 You have a few problems with friends.

03:08:06.000 You don't have any bills.

03:08:07.000 Food's available every night.

03:08:10.000 You're not worrying about how that electric stays on. 0.99

03:08:13.000 I don't give a shit about that. 0.99

03:08:14.000 You're free. 0.99

03:08:14.000 You don't get the Internet's on. 0.99

03:08:16.000 I type in.

03:08:16.000 Yeah.

03:08:17.000 Explore.

03:08:17.000 Yeah, you're free.

03:08:18.000 You have so little resources that are being allocated to all these different things, that when you're a person, you have a family, a mortgage, a fucking business, this and that, and a neighborhood, homeowners association, human resources at work, 0.88

03:08:34.000 and taxes, you don't have the time to learn French. 0.92

03:08:38.000 Yeah, you better learn it before all that.

03:08:39.000 Yeah, it's much easier if you learn it before all that.

03:08:43.000 Because otherwise, you're just not going to have the time to obsess about a thing.

03:08:46.000 And the obsession and, like, the purity when you really care about the thing you're talking about.

03:08:53.000 Like, I don't know if you've went through times in your stand-up career where, like, there wasn't something you wanted to share.

03:08:58.000 Did you ever go through stretches like that?

03:09:00.000 Yeah, you have nothing to talk about.

03:09:01.000 Yeah.

03:09:01.000 Especially when you're young.

03:09:02.000 Yeah.

03:09:03.000 And it's like...

03:09:04.000 Or there was times where, like, I felt like I talked about all the things.

03:09:07.000 Mm-hmm.

03:09:08.000 And I had, like, a...

03:09:09.000 Before this last hour, I was like...

03:09:12.000 Man, what do I want to say?

03:09:13.000 Alright, I did the thing about abortion.

03:09:15.000 I've done the thing about trans.

03:09:16.000 I did all the things.

03:09:17.000 And I'm like, I don't want to just be grabbing at a topic.

03:09:19.000 I want to really, like, feel strongly about something.

03:09:23.000 Actually be interested.

03:09:24.000 Exactly.

03:09:24.000 Yeah.

03:09:25.000 And I took, like, a little bit of time off before I actually felt something.

03:09:29.000 And the funny thing is, when you feel strongly about something, it pours out.

03:09:34.000 It's not hard.

03:09:35.000 The jokes might not be good at first, but you can't wait to tell them and figure them out.

03:09:39.000 Try to figure out a joke you don't care about is a job.

03:09:43.000 It's not an art.

03:09:45.000 That's a job. 0.80

03:09:46.000 But when you care and it's fun and exciting and the stakes are fucking high and it could fuck up, that I want to get on stage. 0.82

03:09:53.000 I can't wait. 0.84

03:09:54.000 Give me another spot.

03:09:54.000 How do I work?

03:09:55.000 And you try to figure it out in real time in front of a group of people.

03:09:59.000 And you have to elicit a specific response from them.

03:10:01.000 It has to be humor.

03:10:02.000 You know what's so funny is like, you ever listen to a recording of like a new bit?

03:10:05.000 And when you were on stage doing it, you're like, that crushed.

03:10:08.000 And then when you listen back, you're like, oh, it did okay.

03:10:11.000 But you were just so excited that it worked.

03:10:14.000 Yes.

03:10:14.000 That the excitement changed almost the way that you interpreted the crowd.

03:10:18.000 Yes.

03:10:19.000 And I don't know, for me, I'm like, oh, that means I really like this.

03:10:22.000 But also, that's the problem with old bits.

03:10:24.000 You don't get enthusiastic about it anymore.

03:10:26.000 And the audience doesn't feel the enthusiasm from you.

03:10:29.000 And you're like, why is this not working?

03:10:30.000 Right.

03:10:30.000 It's because you're not working.

03:10:31.000 Because it's not math.

03:10:32.000 Some people are doing like word problem jokes.

03:10:34.000 At its core, it's not word problem.

03:10:36.000 It's like those people got to connect to the way you feel about this thing.

03:10:39.000 Exactly.

03:10:40.000 And they'll pick up quick.

03:10:41.000 Exactly.

03:10:42.000 Exactly.

03:10:42.000 And there's ways to trick the system with like Mr. X and all this kind of stuff.

03:10:45.000 But if they can feel, they can sense that deep down you don't give a fuck, they're not giving it up. 0.98

03:10:51.000 And you got guys like Joey is a perfect example. 0.99

03:10:53.000 It's like when he's fucking rolling, he feels it. 0.96

03:10:57.000 It feels like he is equally passionate about it the first time he said it and then. 0.98

03:11:01.000 And you get caught up.

03:11:03.000 It's becoming a joke.

03:11:05.000 It's hypnosis.

03:11:06.000 It is.

03:11:07.000 You're hypnotizing the entire crowd to think the way Joey thinks.

03:11:10.000 Yes.

03:11:11.000 Yeah.

03:11:11.000 Yes.

03:11:12.000 That's what he's doing.

03:11:13.000 You're on like an emotional wavelength.

03:11:15.000 Yes.

03:11:15.000 And to me, that's the highest form of it.

03:11:19.000 Obviously, you want to have the structure, you want to have the jokes, you want to have the misdirects and all these things, 100%.

03:11:23.000 But to me, I think those are almost like, that's like the icing and sprinkles on the cake. 0.53

03:11:27.000 The cake is built with, how much do I really fucking care about this position? 0.92

03:11:32.000 Yes. 0.99

03:11:32.000 And sometimes the position is just me being naughty or silly or absurd. 0.99

03:11:36.000 It doesn't matter, but I got to fucking care about it. 0.99

03:11:38.000 Right. 0.93

03:11:38.000 Yeah, it has to be important to you. 0.93

03:11:40.000 Yeah.

03:11:41.000 And they feel that.

03:11:42.000 Yeah.

03:11:43.000 And those, I don't know, those are the bits I always remember. 0.97

03:11:45.000 They can be the silliest little fucking things, like little things Patrice would do about, you know, the subway stopping. 0.98

03:11:51.000 You saw that one where like, excuse me, someone's just been hit by the subway. 0.99

03:11:54.000 There's going to be a delay.

03:11:55.000 And he just, he just stands there and all of a sudden he like moves his sleeve to look at his watch to see how late he's going to be to work.

03:12:03.000 And it's just this little tiny thing, which is like, that's how we would feel in that moment.

03:12:08.000 He didn't even need a punchline.

03:12:09.000 It's just like...

03:12:10.000 That guy's dead, turned into jelly on the tracks. 1.00

03:12:13.000 He's like, 915, fuck! 1.00

03:12:18.000 How many of those can I make in my life? 0.99

03:12:20.000 And you always think that when you have a new bit, like, this is the last new bit.

03:12:26.000 I don't have anything else to say.

03:12:28.000 But you'll always have something to say.

03:12:30.000 You just need the time.

03:12:31.000 You need the time.

03:12:33.000 You need to think.

03:12:34.000 And again, it needs to be something you're actually interested in.

03:12:37.000 So you have to find something you're actually interested in.

03:12:39.000 That's the difference between thieves.

03:12:41.000 They don't have interest.

03:12:43.000 They have interest in killing.

03:12:45.000 They're interested in themselves.

03:12:46.000 How can I succeed?

03:12:47.000 How can I win?

03:12:50.000 Mm-hmm.

03:12:51.000 Yeah.

03:12:51.000 And they're usually always tearing down other comedians, too.

03:12:54.000 Yeah.

03:12:54.000 Which is always ironic.

03:12:56.000 Well, because they're projecting how they feel about themselves.

03:12:58.000 Yeah.

03:12:59.000 It's fascinating.

03:13:00.000 It's fascinating.

03:13:01.000 But it's also fascinating that there's still a few thieves out there that have managed to, like, slip through.

03:13:05.000 And they're existing around us.

03:13:07.000 We're all aware of them.

03:13:08.000 Like, there, there's one.

03:13:09.000 There's one.

03:13:09.000 Look at them over there.

03:13:11.000 Piece of shit. 1.00

03:13:11.000 Why do you think that there are more people that don't call them out than? 1.00

03:13:14.000 Because there's definitely career...

03:13:17.000 Implications.

03:13:18.000 Consequences.

03:13:19.000 Yeah.

03:13:19.000 You know, like some of these people wind up being successful and they hire people.

03:13:23.000 That's one of the things they love to do.

03:13:25.000 Thieves will hire a bunch of other thieves when they get a television show.

03:13:28.000 And they have thieves...

03:13:29.000 Like a thief will hire a bunch of comedians, I should say, when they get a television show and they give them work and they support them.

03:13:36.000 And then this is like, then you have a bunch of people that will defend you.

03:13:39.000 That's very common.

03:13:40.000 And because you're paying them...

03:13:42.000 Exactly.

03:13:43.000 Exactly.

03:13:44.000 Like the thieves will go out and get a bunch of people that maybe they swipe some bits from and they'll put them on their television show.

03:13:50.000 Yeah, I know people have done that.

03:13:53.000 So that's their way of almost like paying for silence.

03:13:56.000 Paying them back.

03:13:57.000 Yeah.

03:13:58.000 Hooking them up.

03:13:58.000 Paying them back.

03:14:00.000 I'll give you examples after the show.

03:14:01.000 We don't need to be negative, talk about people, but there's a bunch of that that I know of.

03:14:06.000 But you know, there's also a bunch of people that are killing it that we know are pure.

03:14:11.000 Yeah.

03:14:12.000 And having this amazing, successful run right now because of the internet, because of streaming platforms that are leaning into really good comedy and not comedy that fits a certain narrative.

03:14:23.000 Yeah.

03:14:24.000 And I think those people...

03:14:26.000 If I look at the people who are having the most success right now, I think it's the people that are pure.

03:14:31.000 There's a lot of that, yeah. 0.99

03:14:33.000 We can talk after, but the people that I see crushing it, the people I'm looking at, and I'm just like, holy shit, this guy deserves it. 0.99

03:14:39.000 Shane deserves it. 0.99

03:14:41.000 And he's just hilarious.

03:14:42.000 And I'm looking at these people and I'm just like, that could've went a different way.

03:14:47.000 It could've went a really different way.

03:14:52.000 The structure was set up in a way where he had another opportunity and with his second chance demolished anything that could have stood in his way.

03:15:03.000 And it's like, okay, I look at that and I go, okay, there is some justice in this.

03:15:06.000 It's also like people are in his corner.

03:15:08.000 Yeah.

03:15:08.000 They want him to succeed.

03:15:09.000 Yeah.

03:15:09.000 Well, when you're good, people want to fight for you.

03:15:11.000 Yeah.

03:15:12.000 Yeah.

03:15:13.000 This is a great time for comedy, man.

03:15:15.000 Yeah.

03:15:15.000 I think it might be the best time ever.

03:15:17.000 Of course.

03:15:18.000 I really do.

03:15:18.000 I think this is legitimately the golden age of comedy.

03:15:21.000 We're in it.

03:15:22.000 And this is also when, like Ari said it best, he's like, comedy's dangerous now.

03:15:26.000 Because it's fun.

03:15:27.000 Because comedy's dangerous again.

03:15:28.000 Yeah.

03:15:29.000 Because there's so many people that want to restrict what people can and can't talk about.

03:15:36.000 That's unique.

03:15:37.000 I feel like the restriction is less now.

03:15:39.000 Really?

03:15:39.000 Yeah.

03:15:40.000 Now, right now, currently.

03:15:41.000 Like in today, I feel like we can kind of say anything.

03:15:43.000 As opposed to like two years ago.

03:15:45.000 Two, five, five to two years. 0.99

03:15:47.000 Now you're like, oh shit, this joke is wild to say. 0.98

03:15:49.000 Well, it's also people are wanting you to go out there. 0.99

03:15:53.000 They get excited.

03:15:54.000 Like when you do that Diddy bit.

03:15:55.000 People wanted you to go out there.

03:15:58.000 They're like, oh, he went right in there.

03:16:00.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

03:16:02.000 I remember I got to LA a day early and I was trying to work out some local stuff.

03:16:06.000 Because sometimes it's fun to just, you know, you're in a city. 0.99

03:16:09.000 And I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local shit. 1.00

03:16:13.000 Every local joke I tried to do just fucking bombed. 1.00

03:16:16.000 And I was like, what the fuck am I going to talk about? 0.99

03:16:17.000 The forum. 0.89

03:16:18.000 Like, everything I try.

03:16:19.000 And I thought that they were, like, aware that, like, the city was, you know, in a different state than it used to be.

03:16:24.000 And I'm trying to write all these jokes about, like, what's happened to the city.

03:16:27.000 And people in L.A. don't really feel the city's changed that much.

03:16:30.000 That's, like, an outside perspective.

03:16:32.000 So I'm saying it, and they're kind of laughing, but they're like, or they're aware and they don't want to admit it.

03:16:37.000 Right. 0.94

03:16:37.000 And I remember we just, I was just in the green room, and I'm just like, fuck, maybe the joke is about Diddy. 0.94

03:16:43.000 That's the only thing everybody's talking about. 0.98

03:16:45.000 Oh, it's on our minds.

03:16:46.000 That's what's happening.

03:16:47.000 And then, bro, this is how funny 50 is.

03:16:50.000 I'll share this.

03:16:52.000 Can you?

03:16:54.000 Yeah.

03:16:55.000 I'll tell you the full thing after.

03:16:58.000 I got FaceTime from 50. He's like, yo, next time I come see you, bro, I'm going to come out on stage with a Maltese cat.

03:17:19.000 I'm like, bro, you're the craziest motherfucker. 1.00

03:17:21.000 Imagine him walking out on the show, petting a fucking cat. 1.00

03:17:24.000 So what do you think was going on? 1.00

03:17:28.000 With who?

03:17:29.000 Meek and Diddy?

03:17:30.000 I don't think Meek's gay.

03:17:31.000 I don't think anything's happened with them.

03:17:33.000 I think that was just a funny rumor that happened.

03:17:35.000 I even said that when I first did the Meek joke. 1.00

03:17:36.000 I was like, I don't think he's gay.

03:17:38.000 He just handled the accusations poorly.

03:17:40.000 Yes.

03:17:40.000 He just handled them poorly.

03:17:41.000 He said, I love pussy. 1.00

03:17:43.000 Who does that? 1.00

03:17:44.000 That's the gayest thing. 1.00

03:17:45.000 Yeah, he's gay. 0.97

03:17:45.000 But I don't think he's gay. 0.97

03:17:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:17:48.000 But that's just an unsophisticated approach to PR. Yeah.

03:17:52.000 Like his PR team's probably like, hey, maybe don't say that.

03:17:54.000 You've got to do something!

03:17:55.000 Yeah.

03:17:56.000 Yeah.

03:17:56.000 Who knows?

03:17:57.000 I mean, he's probably not consulting with anybody.

03:17:59.000 Yeah.

03:17:59.000 If I had to guess, nobody consults with you when something happens.

03:18:03.000 You just post whatever you want.

03:18:04.000 Yeah.

03:18:04.000 Yeah, I don't have like a team telling me, don't say that before the podcast.

03:18:10.000 That would be a problem.

03:18:11.000 Yeah, it would be.

03:18:12.000 Yeah, I would have never gotten anywhere.

03:18:14.000 Yes.

03:18:14.000 Yeah, we need you to not have a team, actually.

03:18:17.000 Yeah, it's actually kind of important.

03:18:19.000 You don't have a bunch of people you consult with about what could be dangerous.

03:18:21.000 Because then who controls them?

03:18:23.000 What are their intentions?

03:18:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:18:24.000 And what are they doing this based on?

03:18:26.000 You know, self-preservation?

03:18:28.000 Yeah.

03:18:29.000 Yeah, it's just wild that apparently he had cameras in every room of his house.

03:18:35.000 That's what they're saying.

03:18:36.000 Has that been verified?

03:18:38.000 I don't think it's been verified. 0.99

03:18:39.000 I think like the Epstein shit, it never will be. 0.99

03:18:42.000 Now, I'm not saying that he's like Epstein. 1.00

03:18:44.000 You know, I think he could have some fucking wild parties, etc. 0.98

03:18:48.000 But if he was filming everybody... 0.99

03:18:50.000 If he's filming everybody, I understand why Hummer showed up to the house. 1.00

03:18:53.000 Because people who went to the parties were like, get those fucking things. 0.99

03:18:56.000 Hundreds of hidden cameras discovered in Diddy's homes, lawsuit says. 0.99

03:19:00.000 Oh, well then, it's a wrap.

03:19:02.000 Done.

03:19:02.000 Hundreds.

03:19:03.000 Yeah, we'll never see any of that footage.

03:19:04.000 This dude had hundreds of cameras.

03:19:06.000 That is so crazy. 1.00

03:19:07.000 Because if he's doing wild shit... 0.99

03:19:09.000 At court filing, Jones said he worked with Combs between September 22nd to September of 2022 and September of 2023 to produce the rapper's most recent release... 0.99

03:19:20.000 So he's had hundreds of cameras in his homes in L.A., New York, and Miami.

03:19:24.000 And did he like to throw the parties?

03:19:26.000 Like, he would throw the white party.

03:19:27.000 But who does he have taking care of that footage?

03:19:30.000 I mean, you know, you can get people.

03:19:35.000 Powerful dude.

03:19:37.000 He's a powerful dude.

03:19:38.000 And I think he really enjoyed power.

03:19:40.000 The underage people implicating people in crimes by bringing underage people to them.

03:19:46.000 Wait, what does that mean?

03:19:47.000 That was the whole thing about the Epstein plays, is that if you've got underage girls, and you don't tell these guys these are underage girls, and then you get them drugged up, get them drunk, give them coke, whatever it is, and then film them.

03:20:00.000 Yep.

03:20:01.000 Well, they don't even know.

03:20:02.000 So they don't know that they're committing acts of pedophilia.

03:20:05.000 Could be.

03:20:06.000 Or could be they do know and they think it's safe to do it because this guy's protecting them.

03:20:10.000 But meanwhile, they're just coked up and they're getting filmed.

03:20:13.000 Yeah.

03:20:13.000 You know, which is also the theory.

03:20:16.000 Yeah.

03:20:17.000 But it is...

03:20:18.000 You gotta think... 1.00

03:20:21.000 When someone becomes like a wild billionaire character, you're like, well, where's the pussy? 1.00

03:20:32.000 Where's the shit that I got rich for? 1.00

03:20:33.000 Imagine you went to the island. 1.00

03:20:34.000 Where's all the fun?

03:20:35.000 Yeah.

03:20:36.000 How do I get the fun?

03:20:38.000 And then someone comes along like, you need to get connected with my friend Jeffrey Epstein.

03:20:41.000 He takes care of everything.

03:20:42.000 And he brings the fun.

03:20:44.000 And so you just keep flying to hang out with them.

03:20:46.000 And so that's your partying.

03:20:47.000 You can't go to Vegas and go to Dre's and pick up hoes and get crazy and bring them back to your suite with Coke. 1.00

03:20:53.000 And people talk too much.

03:20:55.000 So here's the thing.

03:20:56.000 It's like these tech guys have made all this money.

03:20:58.000 Right.

03:20:59.000 They made all this money.

03:21:00.000 They're hanging out in Miami or wherever they're hanging.

03:21:03.000 Uh-huh.

03:21:04.000 And they're like, I'm a billionaire now. 1.00

03:21:07.000 Why am I not getting pussy? 0.99

03:21:09.000 I gotta connect with some people that can make me the man. 1.00

03:21:13.000 I thought I'd be the man now that I'm a billionaire. 0.99

03:21:15.000 I bet in the CEO world, and in that world of country clubs and fucking skull and bones, there's dudes who know how to get the hookers. 1.00

03:21:24.000 Oh, here's the thing. 0.99

03:21:25.000 It's not even the skull and bones guys. 0.99

03:21:26.000 Because that's like old wasp shit. 0.99

03:21:28.000 I'm talking about the nerd from Silicon Valley. 1.00

03:21:31.000 The nerds know prostitutes. 1.00

03:21:32.000 The nerds have coke. 0.99

03:21:34.000 It's not even the nerds.

03:21:35.000 They have a guy who it's their job to throw the parties.

03:21:39.000 It's the fixer.

03:21:39.000 Now, you know these jet setter crews?

03:21:42.000 My boy was explaining how this thing worked to me.

03:21:44.000 They have these events around the globe that wealthy people go.

03:21:47.000 Like Davos.

03:21:48.000 Not even Davos, more just like New York Fashion Week and the US Open all happens around Labor Day in New York, right?

03:21:55.000 So everybody who comes from money and all these rich socialite people from around the world, they all come to New York for that week, right?

03:22:02.000 And they go to the nice parties and they do all the things.

03:22:06.000 Tech bros or the crypto bros want to be included in that cool thing.

03:22:11.000 Right.

03:22:12.000 How do they be included?

03:22:14.000 They got to throw the best party.

03:22:16.000 How do you make the best party?

03:22:18.000 You have to have all the models.

03:22:20.000 You have to have the cool people.

03:22:22.000 They don't know any of those.

03:22:23.000 So you get the fixer.

03:22:24.000 The fixers get paid crazy money from the tech bros or crypto bros because they want in on this thing.

03:22:29.000 And you develop a reputation of being the guy who puts on the crazy bashes.

03:22:33.000 Now.

03:22:34.000 Right.

03:22:34.000 Once you have that reputation, they think they're in.

03:22:36.000 All these other people who are like the socialite people who come from tons of money and their parents are lords and shit, they look at them like, oh, you're paying a play. 0.94

03:22:42.000 It's a bringer show for comedy. 0.98

03:22:44.000 Yeah.

03:22:44.000 You're not really selling out Caroline's.

03:22:46.000 You did the bringer show.

03:22:47.000 But they don't know that.

03:22:48.000 So they're like, yeah, we're all partying.

03:22:50.000 We're doing the thing.

03:22:51.000 So there's this whole economy that kind of like feasts off these people who just have money.

03:22:56.000 But here's the thing.

03:22:57.000 Those people are doing the fixers.

03:22:58.000 They got the models to show up. 1.00

03:23:00.000 These models are curating their Instagram by going to these parties around the world.

03:23:06.000 Sometimes they're getting paid to go to the parties.

03:23:07.000 I imagine the models that are more fun, in other words, Right.

03:23:30.000 And you start doing a little blow, start doing a little molly, that's what you like to do in the first place, and then you get to party on yachts, and you're hanging out with all these guys, and maybe they even pay you.

03:23:40.000 Well, they are paying them.

03:23:40.000 Yeah.

03:23:41.000 And everybody's fucking the same girls. 0.99

03:23:42.000 Maybe it's a lot of money. 1.00

03:23:42.000 It's a lot of money. 1.00

03:23:43.000 Like, you know the Sultan of Brunei's deal?

03:23:45.000 What is it?

03:23:45.000 Oh my god.

03:23:46.000 Sultan of Brunei, he had his own nightclub.

03:23:51.000 Maybe he still does.

03:23:52.000 So he had his own nightclub.

03:23:53.000 He has like 500 Ferraris.

03:23:55.000 These guys have insane amounts of money because it's not public.

03:24:00.000 So they don't have to be like the world's richest men.

03:24:03.000 But they're richer than everybody.

03:24:05.000 They have trillions.

03:24:06.000 And so he had his own nightclub.

03:24:08.000 And so what he would do is he would pay actresses, he would find these girls, get me her, and he would get these gals and give them exorbitant amounts of money to come.

03:24:19.000 And then he would have a nightclub where it was only him.

03:24:23.000 And he would go down there and it's filled with gorgeous women. 1.00

03:24:26.000 And he would go down there and just go, you, come with me. 1.00

03:24:29.000 And then they'd go fucking party. 0.98

03:24:30.000 And they were making a lot of money, and one of them was writing a book. 0.97

03:24:33.000 And so she had a laptop, and she was like documenting, and they confiscated her laptop, and then she went back to America, then she spilled the beans, and she ratted out all the other girls that were doing it, and it kind of fucked up the whole thing. 0.96

03:24:44.000 Because like, A-list people were getting shit-tons of money to go over there and party.

03:24:50.000 People we know.

03:24:50.000 Yeah, I won't say A-list, but people that you know.

03:24:55.000 People you know of.

03:24:56.000 And if you go there, you get millions of dollars.

03:24:59.000 Like this lady had gotten millions of dollars in jewelry from him. 0.96

03:25:02.000 There's a service that apparently...

03:25:07.000 I love that word.

03:25:09.000 Yeah, apparently, right?

03:25:11.000 Allegedly. 1.00

03:25:12.000 Billionaires can fuck like Sports Illustrated models and shit. 1.00

03:25:15.000 Like Victoria's Secret chicks. 1.00

03:25:16.000 Chicks that we've seen.

03:25:18.000 And it costs a lot of money, and they do it because it's like, hey, it's easier than going to do these shoots.

03:25:23.000 It's the easiest money.

03:25:24.000 And they don't want to tell anybody that they did it. 1.00

03:25:26.000 And also, they're getting to fuck billionaires. 1.00

03:25:27.000 They're not fucking some random crackhead. 1.00

03:25:28.000 Right. 1.00

03:25:29.000 They're going to already fuck the billionaires, so I might as well make some fucking money doing it. 1.00

03:25:32.000 And it exists now. 0.99

03:25:33.000 And you know about this, allegedly?

03:25:35.000 Allegedly, I may know people who have partaken.

03:25:38.000 So it's like...

03:25:39.000 This exists!

03:25:41.000 Bang, like, cover of Maxim.

03:25:42.000 I don't know the cover.

03:25:43.000 I don't know what's going on.

03:25:44.000 Just some hot ladies that you're aware of. 1.00

03:25:47.000 But they're not just hot chicks that come from Russia, right? 0.65

03:25:50.000 We're talking about...

03:25:51.000 Famous people.

03:25:52.000 That you would never think would even need to do that.

03:25:55.000 Right.

03:25:57.000 These are like the ecosystems that exist out there.

03:25:59.000 Well, it makes sense. 1.00

03:26:00.000 If you're worth $200 billion, and you give someone a million dollars to fuck you, that is nothing. 1.00

03:26:07.000 You make that in five minutes. 0.97

03:26:09.000 Okay, in 2001, Jeffrey was forced to auction off his personal possessions after using the country as a piggy bank, spending an average of $747,000 a day for 10 years, on top of the $17 billion in gifts When you don't work for your money,

03:26:38.000 how can you value it?

03:26:39.000 Like, if it just comes right out the ground...

03:26:42.000 Like, how do you really think $10,000 is worth something?

03:26:45.000 How much was he spending a day?

03:26:47.000 That's so crazy.

03:26:48.000 He lives in a palace with 1,788 rooms, 257 bathrooms, 5 swimming pools, a mosque, a banquet hall that holds 5,000 people, and a 110 car garage.

03:27:04.000 When he turned 50, the Sultan built a stadium, invited Michael Jackson to perform in it, and paid him $17 million for three concerts.

03:27:13.000 Jeffrey, 59, maintains a separate pleasure palace and once owned a 150-foot yacht called the Tits.

03:27:21.000 He named his fenders nipple one and nipple two and he could never understand why others found that juvenile and crass. 0.94

03:27:29.000 Here and abroad, the brothers are infamous for their sex parties and their harems composed mainly of underage girls. 0.92

03:27:35.000 Yeah, that's crazy. 0.98

03:27:36.000 Wow.

03:27:37.000 Wild.

03:27:38.000 Bro, that amount of money that he's spending?

03:27:41.000 Yeah.

03:27:41.000 That is so crazy.

03:27:43.000 Three billion dollars plus.

03:27:45.000 But that said it didn't include the $17 billion that he was giving out to people.

03:27:49.000 Wow!

03:27:49.000 Did you mention the Michael Jackson thing for his birthday?

03:27:53.000 Yeah.

03:27:53.000 Okay, okay.

03:27:54.000 That dude's ballin', son. 0.99

03:27:56.000 But yeah, these fucking things exist all over the place. 1.00

03:27:59.000 Crazy. 1.00

03:27:59.000 And it's the easiest money that these girls will ever make. 1.00

03:28:02.000 Crazy.

03:28:02.000 Yeah.

03:28:03.000 Yeah.

03:28:04.000 Well, and it's so...

03:28:05.000 If you've got that much money...

03:28:07.000 It doesn't mean anything.

03:28:09.000 It doesn't mean anything.

03:28:09.000 They light it on fire.

03:28:10.000 And the money's coming every day.

03:28:12.000 It's just stacking up. 1.00

03:28:13.000 Giving someone a million dollars to fuck. 1.00

03:28:15.000 And the girl's probably like, wait, a million dollars? 1.00

03:28:17.000 Just regular sex? 1.00

03:28:19.000 You're not gonna shit on me? 1.00

03:28:25.000 He's not gonna give me the Cincinnati top hat? 1.00

03:28:28.000 Whatever the fuck... 0.99

03:28:34.000 I was asking, because when I was out there in Abu Dhabi, I was trying to understand some of the cultural nuances, but I had a joke about it, but I was asking about the Dubai shit. 1.00

03:28:43.000 Did you send me that? 0.98

03:28:45.000 I did a joke out there.

03:28:48.000 But they told me that the Burj Khalifa has a separate sewage system because it wasn't connected to the sewage system of Dubai.

03:28:54.000 So they have these poop trucks that take the poop out, right? 0.96

03:28:58.000 And the joke I said is like, well, that's why they have to shit on the hooker's chest, because it's not connected to the plumbing, right? 0.99

03:29:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:29:02.000 But they were telling me these interesting cultural things that happen out there, like with the license plates. 0.99

03:29:09.000 Have you heard about this?

03:29:10.000 Yes.

03:29:10.000 Where the lower the number, the more expensive it is.

03:29:13.000 Yeah, crazy expensive.

03:29:15.000 Yeah, millions of dollars for a number three license plate.

03:29:17.000 And I'm like, why is that?

03:29:18.000 And one of the kids who's from the royal family goes, you have to understand, when everybody has a G-Wagon or Range Rover, it is not a big deal to have a G-Wagon or Range Rover.

03:29:28.000 Right.

03:29:29.000 And people have this need...

03:29:31.000 To show off. 1.00

03:29:32.000 But if everybody got the expensive shit, how else can you flex? 1.00

03:29:36.000 Right. 1.00

03:29:37.000 License plate.

03:29:38.000 Yeah.

03:29:39.000 Wild.

03:29:39.000 Also crime over there almost non-existent.

03:29:42.000 Yeah.

03:29:43.000 Go to Dubai and commit a crime. 0.94

03:29:44.000 See how that goes.

03:29:45.000 Yeah. 0.94

03:29:45.000 Go to Abu Dhabi and commit a crime. 0.94

03:29:47.000 They've compartmentalized society.

03:29:49.000 But yeah, they're strict, but it's also like that anybody there who's working has been there's a working class of people who do not really operate outside of working within the society.

03:29:59.000 Right.

03:30:00.000 And then everybody else there who's not part of the working class has money.

03:30:03.000 So why would you commit crime?

03:30:04.000 There's also, did you ever see the Vice documentary on some of the people that built Dubai?

03:30:08.000 No.

03:30:08.000 So some of the contractors, what they would do is they would go to third world countries and they'd promise people exorbitant amounts of money to go over there and work construction.

03:30:16.000 Then they'd bring them over to Dubai and then take their passports and then force them to live in squalor, give them a fraction of what they paid, and they're basically indentured servants.

03:30:24.000 Yeah, so the working system is, I don't know how different it is from that even today, but basically like you work there for 11 months, you get one month off, you get paid very little money.

03:30:35.000 It's not enough money for upward mobility.

03:30:36.000 While you're there, you are working just to work and then send money back home to your family, wherever it is.

03:30:41.000 You never will become part of society.

03:30:43.000 So they've really curated a system where those people have no upward mobility.

03:30:48.000 Now, I imagine the advantage of that is there's no crime.

03:30:52.000 Because everybody who's poor there is working.

03:30:56.000 And they know their place.

03:30:57.000 They're in danger.

03:30:58.000 It's not simple.

03:31:00.000 It's not like you can just get away with things.

03:31:01.000 And we're taking you from destitute poverty where your family would die.

03:31:04.000 So they're like, yeah, we're giving you an opportunity. 0.99

03:31:06.000 These people are like, well, if I fuck up here, my whole family dies back home or my whole family starves or my whole family is going to go through some horrible situation. 0.98

03:31:14.000 So I'm the lifeline for my family. 0.99

03:31:16.000 So they are taking advantage of that desperation.

03:31:18.000 Yeah.

03:31:18.000 100%.

03:31:20.000 But yeah, I guess what they would dictate, they would say the benefit of that is no crime.

03:31:25.000 But there is a social cost of that.

03:31:27.000 There is a subclass of people that are there.

03:31:29.000 There's always going to be a social cost when you have monarchies.

03:31:33.000 Yeah.

03:31:34.000 Yeah.

03:31:35.000 Yeah, and then you have people with exorbitant wealth and all the power. 1.00

03:31:39.000 And then, you know, some of them turned bad, like Saddam Hussein and his sons, which were famously some of the most evil motherfuckers that ever existed. 1.00

03:31:48.000 I mean, they would feed women to dogs. 1.00

03:31:50.000 They would find women that were getting married, steal the woman from the marriage, rape her, and then feed her to dogs. 0.99

03:31:57.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

03:31:58.000 Yeah, man.

03:31:59.000 Uday and Kuse.

03:32:01.000 There's been many tales written about how evil they were.

03:32:05.000 They were like legitimate serial killers.

03:32:08.000 That's the risk of the monarchy, right?

03:32:09.000 You don't know if that egg that comes out is good.

03:32:12.000 Well, it's also like having a child that grows up with total, complete power.

03:32:16.000 You're going to have a Joffrey.

03:32:18.000 You know?

03:32:18.000 I mean, that's the archetype.

03:32:20.000 But maybe you get a, what is the guy that everybody thinks said everything great?

03:32:24.000 Marcus Aurelius.

03:32:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:32:26.000 I don't know.

03:32:26.000 He did a lot of psychedelics.

03:32:28.000 Really?

03:32:28.000 Yeah.

03:32:29.000 Yeah, he was a part of the Eleusinian Mysteries.

03:32:31.000 Yeah.

03:32:32.000 I didn't know that.

03:32:33.000 Yeah, he was a part of that whole Greek Eleusinian Mysteries thing.

03:32:37.000 Yeah.

03:32:38.000 Yeah, he was involved in those ceremonies.

03:32:40.000 Yeah, there's a lot of speculation that ancient Greek society, specifically from Brian Mororescu's work.

03:32:47.000 Did you ever talk to him?

03:32:48.000 No, but I read some stuff about there are certain plants that grow that elicited the same chemical compounds as DMT or something.

03:32:57.000 As LSD. Or LSD, yeah.

03:32:59.000 Well, there's a bunch of different ones that do all kinds of different psychoactive ones, but they've absolutely found definitive proof of the use of ergot.

03:33:07.000 And ergot is a fungus that gives people the same sort of psychedelic experience as LSD. Ergot?

03:33:15.000 Ergot, yeah.

03:33:16.000 It's a fungus.

03:33:17.000 It's also a fungus that they connect with the Salem Witch Trials.

03:33:20.000 Like a mushroom?

03:33:21.000 Yeah.

03:33:21.000 It's a fungus that grows on wheat.

03:33:25.000 And that fungus, it can be toxic for some people, it can kill them at certain doses, but it also imparts an LSD effect.

03:33:32.000 And they found ergot in some of the wine vessels.

03:33:35.000 So they were taking it without even knowing?

03:33:37.000 No, they were taking it on purpose.

03:33:38.000 Oh.

03:33:39.000 What is this?

03:33:40.000 A heroic Greek potion.

03:33:42.000 Ergot was in this drink.

03:33:43.000 The kykion. 1.00

03:33:44.000 Yeah, that's what they called it, this drink.

03:33:46.000 And so they believed this drink contained a mixture of a bunch of different psychedelic compounds.

03:33:52.000 One of it's for sure they know as ergot, but there's a few other ones that I can't remember that they know are in there as well.

03:33:58.000 And they found this from studying these ancient pottery vessels.

03:34:02.000 Yeah, your saucer looks like a mushroom.

03:34:06.000 Is that on purpose?

03:34:08.000 I don't think so.

03:34:09.000 But it could.

03:34:10.000 But if your whole idea is...

03:34:12.000 Saucers and mushrooms do have a lot of similarities.

03:34:14.000 But the stoned ape theory is if the mushrooms that took us to the next level and now we have the aliens taking us to the next level.

03:34:19.000 It might be the aliens brought us the mushrooms.

03:34:21.000 There we go.

03:34:22.000 Who knows?

03:34:23.000 Anyway.

03:34:23.000 But yeah, this is crazy.

03:34:24.000 So then he was taking all that and that's why all this wisdom...

03:34:27.000 Well, that's why he was so beyond wise.

03:34:29.000 And he also believed in forgiveness, even forgiveness of his enemies.

03:34:33.000 He was a Roman emperor.

03:34:34.000 No, he was very compassionate.

03:34:36.000 He has all these great quotes.

03:34:37.000 I guess what I assume is like in the same way that somebody is writing Obama speeches, people were writing his stuff.

03:34:43.000 So I imagine that his stoicisms or whatever are the collection of the greatest ideas of the time.

03:34:48.000 And the way to disseminate that information is to be like, yo, it's from the emperor.

03:34:52.000 It's from the top boss.

03:34:53.000 Part of it, but meditations, I don't believe was ever written with the intent of it being distributed.

03:34:58.000 Oh, so they just found this diary.

03:35:01.000 Find that out.

03:35:02.000 I think that's the case.

03:35:03.000 I'm not trying to discredit him.

03:35:04.000 I'm just trying to say that.

03:35:05.000 No, no, I know what you're saying.

03:35:05.000 Well, for sure, definitely.

03:35:06.000 I mean, everybody at any point in time has the information of the greatest minds they've encountered.

03:35:12.000 Of course.

03:35:12.000 Einstein was talking to other great people, and then he might have the greatest mind, but he's still able to...

03:35:16.000 Yeah, it's a collaborative effort, including with philosophy, and certainly back then.

03:35:21.000 But, you know, this guy, this one guy, his experiences, to this day, they resonate.

03:35:26.000 You read meditations today, like, oh, this is a guidebook to how to live your life in a better way.

03:35:31.000 Yeah.

03:35:31.000 And it's rare that you would have someone in his circumstance where he was raised to be king.

03:35:36.000 Exactly.

03:35:36.000 Then he would be successful.

03:35:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:35:38.000 And, you know, and then his son turns out to be a cunt. 1.00

03:35:40.000 But didn't they say that was because of the lead pipes or something like that? 1.00

03:35:42.000 I'm sure that had something to do with it. 0.92

03:35:44.000 There was something about, like, I was reading, or was it Nero, who was the, uh, there was one emperor that just went crazy, and they said is he wasn't raised in the castle, he wasn't raised in the forum, or whatever the fuck it was, and then when he moved there and he started consuming the water from the lead pipes, 0.66

03:36:00.000 that they started to warp his brain, and then he went more and more crazy throughout. 0.81

03:36:04.000 I mean, this is what some tour guide told me.

03:36:06.000 Totally makes sense.

03:36:06.000 Yeah, of course.

03:36:07.000 They didn't know what lead did to you.

03:36:08.000 They were stoked to have pipes.

03:36:10.000 George Washington's teeth were made with lead.

03:36:12.000 Yeah.

03:36:13.000 You know, that's that Shane Gillis bit.

03:36:14.000 Oh, it's a great bit. 0.99

03:36:15.000 It's a fucking banger of a bit. 0.99

03:36:17.000 I love that bit. 0.99

03:36:17.000 But that's true. 0.99

03:36:18.000 The literal mold that his teeth were fitted into was lead.

03:36:22.000 He carried lead in his mouth all day.

03:36:24.000 Yeah. 0.92

03:36:24.000 Just nuts. 0.92

03:36:25.000 Wild boy. 0.89

03:36:26.000 Wild boy.

03:36:27.000 Wild boy.

03:36:27.000 Yeah.

03:36:28.000 But the country was founded by wild, crazy fucking people. 1.00

03:36:30.000 You kind of need a crazy motherfucker to found a country. 1.00

03:36:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:36:34.000 It's not like the most sane thing to be like, yeah, let's just thwart the whole system, do something completely different, we'll do it on our own.

03:36:40.000 Not only that, but have this fail-safe method that exists today to keep someone from becoming a tyrant.

03:36:45.000 Oh, to relinquish the power.

03:36:47.000 Yeah.

03:36:47.000 That was the greatest thing.

03:36:49.000 Yeah, I think that might have been the greatest thing a leader has ever done.

03:36:52.000 Yeah.

03:36:52.000 To set in motion this idea that you are not going to maintain this power after you have it.

03:36:59.000 Yeah, no one can. 1.00

03:37:00.000 What a fucking... 0.99

03:37:02.000 Pretty amazing that they had the foresight. 1.00

03:37:04.000 Did he write about it at all?

03:37:05.000 Like, is there a moment where he regretted it two months later? 1.00

03:37:08.000 He's like, man, I should have kept that shit. 0.99

03:37:10.000 Like, he's gonna deal with a parking ticket or something. 1.00

03:37:12.000 He's like, fuck! 1.00

03:37:13.000 After he gets out of office, it's bullshit. 1.00

03:37:15.000 I could put my horse here. 1.00

03:37:19.000 I mean, imagine if someone tried to form a country today, how quick they'd put the kibosh on that.

03:37:24.000 I mean, it happens all the time.

03:37:25.000 Yeah, but if somebody went to some new Greenland or something and just said, we're going to set up shop here.

03:37:31.000 Yeah, the powers that be go, no.

03:37:33.000 No, a chance.

03:37:34.000 We don't do new countries.

03:37:35.000 Are you going to have weapons?

03:37:35.000 Yeah.

03:37:36.000 What? 1.00

03:37:36.000 Fuck that. 1.00

03:37:37.000 You're going to make an army? 1.00

03:37:38.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

03:37:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:37:40.000 We're going to find a reason why you guys are whatever you are. 1.00

03:37:42.000 Pedophiles, racists. 1.00

03:37:43.000 I think you're racist. 1.00

03:37:44.000 Yeah, whatever the fuck you are. 1.00

03:37:44.000 You hate women. 1.00

03:37:45.000 Yeah, we're going over there. 0.99

03:37:46.000 Yeah, we've got to stop this.

03:37:48.000 We've got to figure out a way to invade.

03:37:50.000 When are we going to take Greenland already?

03:37:52.000 Or buy it?

03:37:52.000 Wasn't Trump talking about buying it?

03:37:54.000 He made a tweet, I promise I won't do this.

03:37:57.000 And he had like a giant Trump Tower there that said Trump on the ceiling.

03:38:00.000 But it sounded like a cool acquisition.

03:38:02.000 Yeah.

03:38:02.000 Like, don't they have all these minerals and stuff?

03:38:04.000 And there's all these great...

03:38:05.000 Also, if the world does warm up, that's a good spot to go to.

03:38:09.000 Ah.

03:38:11.000 You know, throughout history, when the world's gotten colder and warmer, people have moved away from the places where you can't live in and moved to the places where you can live.

03:38:19.000 So we got a nice little failsafe.

03:38:20.000 Yeah.

03:38:21.000 A little something.

03:38:22.000 Imagine.

03:38:22.000 A little something.

03:38:23.000 We're just all in Greenland.

03:38:24.000 Well, there was discussions about Trump buying Greenland.

03:38:28.000 Yeah.

03:38:28.000 Because it's got a lot of...

03:38:30.000 I don't know.

03:38:30.000 Why didn't that happen?

03:38:33.000 I think Greenland shut it down.

03:38:36.000 Isn't Greenland owned by Denmark or something like that?

03:38:41.000 Yeah.

03:38:41.000 Come on.

03:38:42.000 Are you sure?

03:38:43.000 I just didn't get the right offer.

03:38:45.000 That might be the offer.

03:38:46.000 Yeah.

03:38:46.000 But we've made some good deals.

03:38:48.000 Like, that fucking Louisiana purchase was a good deal. 1.00

03:38:50.000 What a crazy deal. 1.00

03:38:51.000 I mean...

03:38:52.000 How about Alaska?

03:38:53.000 That's a crazy deal. 0.58

03:38:54.000 Yeah, Alaska was nuts.

03:38:55.000 Since 1867, the United States has considered or made several proposals to purchase the island of Greenland.

03:39:01.000 From Denmark, yeah.

03:39:02.000 From Denmark. 1.00

03:39:15.000 There's got to be all kinds of shit up there that they could use. 1.00

03:39:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:39:21.000 What do you think about Antarctica?

03:39:24.000 Well, did you ever see that one guy that was on the Sean Ryan show that claims that there's like a direct energy weapon out of Antarctica?

03:39:30.000 Boy, that guy seems overconfident.

03:39:33.000 Yeah.

03:39:33.000 That he knows what he's talking about.

03:39:34.000 He's a fireman.

03:39:36.000 He's not a scientist.

03:39:37.000 I had access to everything.

03:39:38.000 Yeah, there's something about that that doesn't sit right with me, but I don't know.

03:39:42.000 Yeah.

03:39:45.000 It's so hard, unless you have evidence, unless you could show that they could turn this thing on.

03:39:52.000 Right.

03:39:52.000 And what is it?

03:39:53.000 It's a neutrino detector that also can be used as a directed energy weapon.

03:39:58.000 That's it.

03:39:59.000 Directed energy weapons is what they're saying.

03:40:00.000 Yeah.

03:40:01.000 I mean, listen, that's a concept that existed for a long time.

03:40:05.000 I'm sure they probably have something like that.

03:40:08.000 Yeah.

03:40:08.000 They definitely have things that were just theoretical.

03:40:12.000 They have a railgun now, and this railgun can go through multiple layers of steel.

03:40:18.000 Have you ever seen the railgun in operation?

03:40:20.000 No.

03:40:21.000 It's crazy.

03:40:22.000 A railgun, just like from Quake, this thing sends this bolt through, like, I think they did like 10 giant steel plates in a row, and it just went through all of them like it was hot butter.

03:40:33.000 But is it a laser?

03:40:34.000 What is the material that's actually going through it?

03:40:36.000 I don't know exactly how it works.

03:40:39.000 So this is the thing.

03:40:41.000 So this is the rail, this bolt going through all this steel.

03:40:45.000 Jesus.

03:40:46.000 Look at this.

03:40:46.000 It just goes through everything.

03:40:48.000 Goes through all that shit. 1.00

03:40:50.000 Look at it going through it. 1.00

03:40:52.000 Just going through everything, man.

03:40:54.000 Look at that. 0.99

03:40:58.000 I mean, it's like total science fiction Star Wars type shit. 0.99

03:41:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:41:02.000 So they've got some wild shit, and I guarantee they're working on direct energy weapons as well. 0.99

03:41:08.000 Now, what they've been able to accomplish versus what is theoretical, that's the real question. 0.98

03:41:13.000 And if it did exist, if there was a direct energy weapon, would they tell us?

03:41:17.000 I don't think they would.

03:41:18.000 No.

03:41:18.000 Why would they tell us?

03:41:19.000 No.

03:41:20.000 I mean, the conspiracies out there get wild.

03:41:22.000 Like, there's pyramids there.

03:41:24.000 You've seen that one, I'm sure.

03:41:25.000 Yeah.

03:41:26.000 But if you also start digging, they say nobody can, like, dig under the ice.

03:41:29.000 Like, don't mess with the ice out there.

03:41:30.000 I think there's, like, a treaty across all, like, countries that have somehow, like, taken apart or claimed a part of Antarctica.

03:41:36.000 But I think the tricky thing is, like, if you start digging and you find animal remains, like, humans tend to follow animals wherever they go.

03:41:44.000 Yeah.

03:41:45.000 So are we going to find some humans over there?

03:41:47.000 And then how does that distort the historical timeline?

03:41:49.000 Will they find a spaceship down there?

03:41:51.000 Ooh, Joe, now we're getting into it.

03:41:52.000 Well, that was one of the things that Lazar said.

03:41:55.000 Is that one of the vehicles was a part of an archaeological dig.

03:41:59.000 They found it in an archaeological dig.

03:42:01.000 But not in Antarctica.

03:42:02.000 No.

03:42:03.000 It was in North America, right?

03:42:04.000 He didn't say where.

03:42:05.000 He didn't say where.

03:42:06.000 But he said one of the ships, they recovered from an archaeological dig.

03:42:10.000 And they think these things have been around for a long, long, long time.

03:42:13.000 The people that work with them, like Diana Posolka, who wrote, what was it, Encounters?

03:42:19.000 Mm-hmm.

03:42:20.000 She said that they refer to them as donations.

03:42:23.000 These crashed UFOs, they don't even necessarily think of them as crashed.

03:42:27.000 They think they kind of like let it crash.

03:42:29.000 They're donations for us to back engineer.

03:42:31.000 That we're supposed to take them and go figure this out.

03:42:35.000 And that this is something that helps our technological evolution.

03:42:38.000 And there's a lot of people that point to the creation of fiber optics, that it all kind of happened right after Roswell.

03:42:44.000 There's these descriptions of fiber optics that existed in the crafts they found at Roswell.

03:42:50.000 So they're looking at us like we're looking at the orangutan.

03:42:52.000 Yeah, here's a stick.

03:42:54.000 Go fish with that stick.

03:42:58.000 I mean, that would be a good way to accelerate technologies, to just introduce something to them and go back-engineer that.

03:43:04.000 Yeah.

03:43:04.000 Figure that out.

03:43:05.000 I mean, is that how we do it now?

03:43:06.000 Yeah.

03:43:07.000 Well, that's what Lazar had said they were doing with him in Area 51, in S4. He was saying, but they didn't know exactly how these things worked.

03:43:16.000 They didn't know how to recreate it, and they wouldn't let the scientists talk to other scientists.

03:43:21.000 Yeah.

03:43:21.000 He's like, science doesn't exist in a vacuum like that.

03:43:24.000 You need a collaborative effort of a bunch of different people.

03:43:27.000 And also different scientists that were working on the thing weren't allowed to talk to each other.

03:43:31.000 That's a military thing, right?

03:43:32.000 For privacy?

03:43:32.000 Yes, a compartmentalization thing.

03:43:34.000 Yeah, for top secret clearance.

03:43:36.000 But he was the guy that was saying that they were also telling him that we are a farm of souls.

03:43:43.000 Yeah.

03:43:45.000 And this is the thing that the people that know about it say you can't tell people because they would freak out.

03:43:51.000 There'd be riots in the streets.

03:43:53.000 Someone just recently said something like that.

03:43:55.000 It was one of the recent conversations between some top official.

03:43:58.000 They were saying if real disclosure happened and people knew exactly what was going on, there'd be riots.

03:44:03.000 People would be freaking out.

03:44:04.000 I think we'd be okay now.

03:44:06.000 Well, who knows?

03:44:07.000 If we found out that we really are just vessels for souls, and that we're being farmed by some super-intelligent species that we will eventually become...

03:44:15.000 The farm thing is tricky, but that we're being groomed to become this super-intelligent species, and it takes time, and we have to get there slowly.

03:44:28.000 Yeah.

03:44:31.000 That makes sense.

03:44:32.000 I like the theory.

03:44:33.000 Yeah.

03:44:34.000 That tracks that you would just kind of let us figure it out and let us go.

03:44:37.000 And go just in the right direction.

03:44:38.000 There you go.

03:44:39.000 And that the aliens would show up once we started detonating nukes.

03:44:42.000 Because it's like, whoa, whoa, that's a different direction.

03:44:43.000 Yeah.

03:44:43.000 Okay, guys, stop that.

03:44:45.000 Don't do that anymore.

03:44:46.000 Yeah.

03:44:46.000 You can do all your nonsense and do all your regular conventional warfare, but as soon as you start going atomic, we're going to start talking.

03:44:53.000 Yeah.

03:44:54.000 We're going to let you know.

03:44:55.000 You're not the boss.

03:44:56.000 Quite benevolent, these aliens, huh?

03:44:58.000 Yeah.

03:44:58.000 Well, also maybe recognize that this process has to take place and you can't hold their hand, you know?

03:45:04.000 Teach a man to fish.

03:45:06.000 He'll fish for the rest of his life.

03:45:07.000 Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.

03:45:09.000 Yeah.

03:45:10.000 Yeah.

03:45:11.000 Teach him.

03:45:12.000 You might meet him one day, Joe.

03:45:14.000 Yeah.

03:45:15.000 You might meet him one day.

03:45:16.000 I might already have to meet him.

03:45:17.000 Will we believe you?

03:45:19.000 Uh, don't believe me.

03:45:20.000 I'll lie.

03:45:21.000 It's the one thing I'll lie about.

03:45:23.000 I don't lie about anything.

03:45:23.000 I will lie to everybody about that.

03:45:26.000 Joe's already met him.

03:45:27.000 That means he's already met him. 0.99

03:45:28.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

03:45:30.000 I think it's all fake. 1.00

03:45:31.000 It's all Russian propaganda. 0.54

03:45:33.000 We need to support Ukraine. 0.99

03:45:39.000 Meanwhile, there's fucking things in this room with us right now, observing from other dimensions. 1.00

03:45:45.000 Fuck. 0.99

03:45:45.000 Yeah, just making sure we're on the general path towards technological progression, which is what eventually gives birth to it. 0.99

03:45:54.000 So they're...

03:45:55.000 They're us.

03:45:56.000 Yeah, but they're...

03:45:57.000 They're what every intelligent species eventually becomes.

03:45:59.000 Eventually becomes, but they're basically on a further timeline.

03:46:02.000 Yeah.

03:46:03.000 So they're influencing their own timeline.

03:46:05.000 They're influencing a similar species to evolve to hit their level of technological sophistication.

03:46:11.000 And they feel like that is their...

03:46:13.000 Their duty?

03:46:14.000 I think that's just what happens.

03:46:16.000 Yeah.

03:46:16.000 That's probably what happens in the universe, you know?

03:46:19.000 Yeah.

03:46:19.000 I mean, look, when we go to visit primitive societies, we bring the wells.

03:46:25.000 Oh, that's true.

03:46:25.000 We start creating electricity for them.

03:46:28.000 We teach them how to farm.

03:46:30.000 Yeah.

03:46:31.000 That's what we do.

03:46:32.000 It just makes sense that they would do that.

03:46:34.000 Especially if they're beyond advanced.

03:46:37.000 Like, incomprehensibly more advanced than we are.

03:46:40.000 They would slowly help us do it right.

03:46:43.000 Yeah.

03:46:44.000 And stop us from making catastrophic errors.

03:46:46.000 And we're fun.

03:46:47.000 We're like dogs in a way.

03:46:48.000 Like, dogs are fun. 1.00

03:46:49.000 You want to teach them how to sit and shit outside. 1.00

03:46:51.000 Also, like, look at them go. 1.00

03:46:53.000 Yeah.

03:46:53.000 Look at these people.

03:46:54.000 We create some good stuff. 0.99

03:46:55.000 Yeah, look at them making drones and shit. 1.00

03:46:56.000 This is wild. 0.99

03:46:57.000 Yeah.

03:46:58.000 Look what they're doing. 0.99

03:46:59.000 Railguns and shit. 1.00

03:47:00.000 Look at these psychos. 1.00

03:47:02.000 Hypersonic jets.

03:47:04.000 Look at them go!

03:47:05.000 And still cage fighting.

03:47:07.000 Yeah, we've got it all.

03:47:08.000 Still slap fighting.

03:47:08.000 We've got the whole...

03:47:09.000 Slap fighting. 1.00

03:47:11.000 Slap fighting is like, that's the bottom. 0.99

03:47:13.000 When that comes onto the alien's desk.

03:47:15.000 Wait, they're doing what?

03:47:17.000 Slap. 0.80

03:47:18.000 They can't defend each other.

03:47:19.000 They have to stand there.

03:47:20.000 Yeah.

03:47:21.000 Do they know about brain damage?

03:47:22.000 Oh, yeah.

03:47:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:47:23.000 The people that host it also host MMA. Yeah.

03:47:29.000 They know everything about brain damage.

03:47:31.000 And they just say, look, sign up at the dotted line.

03:47:34.000 You can ride a bull. 1.00

03:47:35.000 You can fuck a dirt bike ride. 1.00

03:47:36.000 You can get slapped. 1.00

03:47:37.000 You can do whatever you want in this country. 0.95

03:47:39.000 Yes.

03:47:40.000 Yeah.

03:47:42.000 Yeah.

03:47:43.000 That's probably what the aliens are like, Jesus Christ.

03:47:45.000 They probably look at slap fighting and go, oh my God. 0.95

03:47:48.000 Someone's trying to tell them not to do that.

03:47:50.000 Yeah.

03:47:52.000 America's like, the way that we look at Trump, they look at America.

03:47:55.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

03:47:56.000 We're like, the guy's fucking crazy, but he's funny as hell. 0.99

03:47:59.000 That's them. 1.00

03:48:00.000 They're just looking at us like, they invented what? 0.99

03:48:02.000 What a bunch of psychos. 0.85

03:48:04.000 And maybe all advancing civilizations are psychos. 0.90

03:48:08.000 Maybe they all eventually have to become integrated with technology to escape the boundaries and the walls that are set up by their biology.

03:48:20.000 Because your biology has allowed you through in a natural environment to achieve a place where you could be detached from the natural environment with cities and buildings and structures and electricity and power and technology and weapons.

03:48:32.000 And weapons that allow soft, fleshy water balloons filled with blood to go out there and kill grizzly bears from 100 yards.

03:48:40.000 Boom! 0.99

03:48:41.000 And you stand next to them, look at me, look what I did.

03:48:45.000 It's wild, but it seems like that is the only way you get to be sophisticated enough to create technology.

03:48:53.000 You have to have controlled your environment enough where you've stopped all the enemies, stopped all the predators.

03:48:58.000 Egypt.

03:48:58.000 Yeah.

03:48:59.000 Like, in order to build those pyramids, you need a long time of safety.

03:49:04.000 Yeah.

03:49:05.000 You can't build them at the same time that you're at war.

03:49:07.000 Right.

03:49:08.000 You're being attacked, there's famine, there's no water.

03:49:10.000 Right.

03:49:10.000 You need long...

03:49:12.000 Thousands of years.

03:49:13.000 ...safe and food and abundance, and then you need a thing for people to do so they don't kill each other.

03:49:19.000 Keep them busy.

03:49:20.000 Yep.

03:49:20.000 Keep them busy.

03:49:21.000 Build.

03:49:21.000 Keep them from fighting over power.

03:49:23.000 Yeah.

03:49:24.000 Yeah.

03:49:24.000 What if it was that simple?

03:49:26.000 Who knows what it was with those folks?

03:49:28.000 Because I think they were probably more sophisticated than we are today.

03:49:32.000 It's just the only thing that makes sense to me, that they were able to get these multiple-ton stones down from the mountains with no road system.

03:49:40.000 The tricky, what is it, the Aswan Valley that they got the stones from for the pyramids in Giza.

03:49:47.000 That is a really tricky thing to consider.

03:49:49.000 It's all tricky.

03:49:50.000 Some of them were from 500 miles away.

03:49:53.000 Yeah.

03:49:53.000 They were 80 tons.

03:49:54.000 They got them out of the mountains.

03:49:57.000 They moved them down.

03:49:58.000 They cut them perfectly.

03:49:59.000 What did they do?

03:50:00.000 How'd they do it?

03:50:00.000 What are the machines?

03:50:02.000 What was the technology?

03:50:03.000 Was it no technology?

03:50:05.000 Really?

03:50:05.000 Are you sure?

03:50:06.000 Is it just based on what?

03:50:08.000 Our understanding currently of what happened 12,000 years ago, which is not that good?

03:50:14.000 No, we have like a piecemeal understanding, like a very like just minute understanding of what was possible back then based on the evidence of the result of what was possible, which is the pyramids, which is bananas.

03:50:29.000 And we're also trying to explain it with theories that we've kind of accepted to be fact that are really not that much.

03:50:36.000 Like this idea that it was all done with like the chisels and stones.

03:50:39.000 I don't necessarily subscribe to that.

03:50:41.000 Yeah, it says who?

03:50:42.000 Yeah.

03:50:42.000 All they would have to do is find one piece of machinery that didn't exist before they could understand.

03:50:47.000 And they found things before that they didn't know existed, and they couldn't understand.

03:50:51.000 Like, what is that mechanism?

03:50:53.000 The antitheric...

03:50:56.000 What is it called?

03:50:57.000 There was a computer that they found.

03:50:58.000 This computer and gears.

03:51:00.000 It was in a Roman ship that sank to the bottom of the ocean.

03:51:04.000 The Antikythera.

03:51:07.000 Antikythera mechanism.

03:51:10.000 So this thing...

03:51:13.000 It's an ancient Greek...

03:51:15.000 Go back to that, please, so I can read that.

03:51:17.000 It's an ancient Greek hand-powered orrery, a model of the solar system described as the oldest known example of Of an analog computer.

03:51:29.000 It's used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses decades in advance.

03:51:34.000 It also could be used to track the four-year cycle of antithetic games.

03:51:40.000 Athletic games.

03:51:41.000 Make it a little larger.

03:51:43.000 Athletic games simpler to the Olympiad.

03:51:45.000 Wow.

03:51:45.000 The cycle of the ancient Olympic Games.

03:51:48.000 The artifact was among the wreckage retrieved from a shipwreck off the coast of the Greek island of Antikythera in 1901. In 1902, it was identified by archaeologist Valerios Staius as containing a gear.

03:52:08.000 The device housed in the remains of a wooden frame case of uncertain overall size.

03:52:28.000 I'm going to go.

03:52:36.000 All these fragments of the mechanisms are kept at the National Archaeological Museum in Athens, along with the reconstructions and replicas to demonstrate how it may have looked and worked.

03:52:45.000 See if you can find what the replica of what it looked like. 0.51

03:52:53.000 So they had to sort of figure out how the fuck did they do this? 0.80

03:52:59.000 How did they know this? 0.97

03:53:00.000 What's involved in this?

03:53:02.000 Was this ancient technology that existed a long time ago that they had preserved and held onto?

03:53:10.000 When was the creation of that thing?

03:53:13.000 So there's things that we know that we didn't think that they could do that sort of really throw a monkey wrench to our understanding.

03:53:24.000 Yeah.

03:53:24.000 That's just one.

03:53:25.000 That's just one that they found.

03:53:27.000 I mean, there could have been stuff from thousands of years before that that just doesn't exist anymore.

03:53:32.000 Yeah.

03:53:32.000 You know, you deal with erosion, you deal with time, and especially over thousands of years, 12,000 years.

03:53:39.000 Boy, you have nothing left.

03:53:40.000 There's no evidence of whatever these machines were.

03:53:43.000 It would be interesting to study, like...

03:53:46.000 What happened to technology during the medieval age?

03:53:51.000 What is it called?

03:53:52.000 During the Black Plague?

03:53:54.000 What was it called?

03:53:55.000 Medieval Ages?

03:53:56.000 Was that the term?

03:53:57.000 Yeah, but during the plague.

03:53:58.000 During the plague, right?

03:53:59.000 Where...

03:54:01.000 Was there an erosion of intellectual property?

03:54:05.000 Right.

03:54:05.000 Because people are dying off.

03:54:06.000 Exactly.

03:54:07.000 People are dying off.

03:54:07.000 And do the physicists die?

03:54:08.000 Because we always talk about this.

03:54:09.000 What happened when all the physicists died?

03:54:11.000 What happened when all the scientists died?

03:54:12.000 So was there an erosion?

03:54:14.000 Was there a step back in our ability to create things during that period?

03:54:18.000 That's a good question.

03:54:18.000 And if there was something that was even worse than that that happened throughout history, i.e.

03:54:22.000 like an asteroid or something in the earth, well, that erosion would just be 10 times worse.

03:54:26.000 100 times worse.

03:54:27.000 But I'd like to look into that.

03:54:28.000 Yeah.

03:54:29.000 Because you still see great works of art that happened during the mid-A... Is it medieval?

03:54:34.000 Medieval ages?

03:54:35.000 Yeah.

03:54:35.000 You see these great cathedrals go up.

03:54:37.000 So there still were, I would imagine, they were maintaining their ability to create these great structures.

03:54:44.000 Right, but there had to be a dip in productivity.

03:54:46.000 So let's see what that dip is, and then multiply it by the catastrophe.

03:54:50.000 Right.

03:54:51.000 Well, I think people were just, like, knocked back into the Stone Age.

03:54:54.000 I think that's probably what happened.

03:54:56.000 That makes sense.

03:54:57.000 And that's why you see the emergence of written language and all these different things from Mesopotamia.

03:55:05.000 Like, that's 6,000 years later, after the impacts, probably.

03:55:10.000 So it took that amount of time to recover.

03:55:13.000 Yeah.

03:55:14.000 And build back the knowledge set.

03:55:16.000 And keep in mind, like, the knowledge set isn't maintained with the efficiency that we have it now, right?

03:55:21.000 Like, you get a couple books that get destroyed, and there is physics gone, chemistry gone.

03:55:25.000 That's the library of Alexandria.

03:55:26.000 They burned the library of Alexandria, and everybody's like, what happened?

03:55:29.000 Yeah, that was the knowledge.

03:55:31.000 Take a guess.

03:55:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:55:32.000 Yeah, how'd they build this shit? 1.00

03:55:33.000 Oh, we've burned it. 1.00

03:55:34.000 Sorry.

03:55:35.000 Yeah.

03:55:36.000 It is vulnerable.

03:55:37.000 We take it for granted.

03:55:38.000 It is incredibly vulnerable.

03:55:39.000 Oh man, we're even more vulnerable now because everything's on hard drives. 0.99

03:55:43.000 You know, so all it takes is the power going off and we're fucked. 0.99

03:55:46.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:55:47.000 And how long would it take before the power gets back on?

03:55:49.000 Boy, asteroid impacts, kills the whole grid, everyone's knocked into the Stone Age for a couple hundred years.

03:55:54.000 Yeah.

03:55:55.000 Bro, you ain't getting into them hard drives.

03:55:57.000 Yeah.

03:55:57.000 You're never going to figure it out.

03:55:59.000 And all the hard drives will rot.

03:56:01.000 The moisture in the air, the erosion, they'll slowly evaporate.

03:56:06.000 Yeah.

03:56:06.000 And if somebody handed you a hard drive 2,000 years later, you would just think it was a piece of plastic.

03:56:14.000 Yeah.

03:56:14.000 You have no clue that all the information- It'd be a lump.

03:56:16.000 How about that thing? 0.97

03:56:17.000 That thing was just a lump of- We don't know what the fuck that does. 0.99

03:56:19.000 It was all corroded and fucked up. 0.99

03:56:21.000 They don't know what it is. 0.98

03:56:22.000 It's the only one they've ever found, I think, I'm reading.

03:56:24.000 Yeah.

03:56:25.000 I mean, how many of them were there?

03:56:27.000 It wasn't the only one.

03:56:28.000 Yeah.

03:56:28.000 They probably had a bunch of them.

03:56:29.000 They probably had even better ones.

03:56:30.000 That's the question they're saying.

03:56:32.000 Like, what if it was the only one? 0.99

03:56:33.000 It's a fucking mystery, baby. 0.99

03:56:37.000 We love it. 0.99

03:56:37.000 But it's a fun time. 0.99

03:56:38.000 It's the best.

03:56:39.000 It's a fun time to be alive.

03:56:40.000 As chaotic as it is, this is a really fun time to be alive.

03:56:43.000 Amen.

03:56:43.000 Alright, my brother.

03:56:44.000 I love you to death.

03:56:45.000 You're the man.

03:56:46.000 Thank you, brother.

03:56:46.000 Thanks for being here.

03:56:47.000 I'm so happy to see you killing it.

03:56:49.000 It's beautiful to watch.

03:56:49.000 Thank you for everything, bro.

03:56:50.000 You're out there crushing it.

03:56:51.000 Come on, man.

03:56:51.000 Appreciate you.

03:56:52.000 You're on top of it.

03:56:53.000 I love it.

03:56:53.000 Thank you, man.

03:56:54.000 Alright.

03:56:54.000 Anything to tell anybody?

03:56:56.000 Go check out.

03:56:57.000 If you want to come check out the tour, that'd be great.

03:56:59.000 Life tour.

03:56:59.000 We're coming to Austin, actually.

03:57:00.000 When are you coming?

03:57:02.000 April 16th, I think, or something like that.

03:57:05.000 Doing the Moody.

03:57:06.000 Nice.

03:57:06.000 Yeah.

03:57:07.000 Beautiful.

03:57:08.000 That'd be awesome.

03:57:09.000 Come out to that.

03:57:10.000 Thank you so much.

03:57:10.000 My brother.

03:57:11.000 Thank you.

03:57:11.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 06, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2132 - Andrew Schulz

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