Comedian Joe Rogan is back from a night out in Austin, Texas. He talks about his night at the Austin Sketch Comedy Club, what it's like to work at a comedy club, and why he doesn't want to go to Seattle. He also talks about why he thinks Joe DeRosa is the best comedian in the country, and what it means to be a true gastronomist. And, of course, he talks about the chicken place he went to last night, Gus's Fried Chicken, and how he thinks it's the best chicken place in the whole world. Joe also talks a little bit about how he's going to get to Seattle, but he's not sure if he'll be able to make it because he's flying out to Seattle or not. And he talks a lot about what he's eating for dinner, which might not be the best thing he's eaten in a while he's in Texas, but it's not a bad thing at all, and it's a good thing that he's doing it in the best way he knows how to do it, which is to have a good sub shop called Joe's Sub Shop in San Antonio, Texas, where he also happens to be the co-owner of a great sandwich shop. . Joe's a great dude, and I think you're going to like it. Check it out! The Joe Rogans Experience is a podcast by day, by night, all day, and by night all day. All day long. -Joe Rogan -Jon Sorrents Jon Sorrenta JOE ROGAN PODCAST by day and night out by night out at the comedy club in Austin - Jon Rogan Podcast by night. Jon Rogans Sub Shop by day is a sandwich shop in San Francisco, Texas and all day by night by night in Seattle, WA. Joes Sub shop by night Thanks to Jon for the sub shop, Jon's Subshop by night? Tom's Sub shop in St. Pete's Chicken place in San Frisco, CA Thank you for the Sub shop, Tom's Chicken Place by the way, Tom Rogans is a great sub shop by the JOB'S Fried Chicken place, and the JOE'S Sub Shop is a good place GOS CHICKET by Joes' Sub Shop, by the Way?
00:04:03.000What about, uh, yeah, the, um, yeah, before I came down here, I was, because in New York, it's so funny, we were in the green room last night, all I want to do is bust balls with everybody.
00:04:17.000And, uh, when you see Shane Gillis in there, Shane Gillis is just that guy, he's so big, I just want you to, I want you to make, I want you to lock him in a, in a basement, and just feed him like red meat, and make him train MMA for like two years, and just eat mescaline and red meat.
00:07:04.000I sought out a psychiatrist's convention and went there and said, hey, would you guys let me go on and just shoot my special in front of you?
00:08:22.000And I think social media has just broken people's brains.
00:08:26.000Social media started as a fun aunt's kitchen where everybody was being positive and saying like, hey, you know, dance between the raindrops.
00:08:35.000And then suddenly somebody was like, shut up, bitch, you fat bitch.
00:09:02.000Not just that, but also you don't feel bad.
00:09:05.000Like if you say something shitty to someone, you see the look on their face, even if you feel like you should have done it, when you're alone at night, you might be like, I didn't have to do that.
00:09:57.000When people don't understand how it works, and they'll post something and just get smashed in the comments, and then they'll start going back and forth with people in the comments like, what are you doing?
00:16:32.000Well, even when he was on the Green Hornet, I'm old enough, I was there for the Green Hornet days, and you're like, yeah, that's kind of cool, but you didn't think about it.
00:16:38.000But the minute those movies came out, we all saw them when they first came out.
00:16:42.000I saw Chinese Connection, it was called Fists of Fury.
00:16:45.000They changed the titles now, but it was Chinese Connection, was the first one, then Fists of Fury, and then Enter the Dragon.
00:18:44.000Our kids that were raised to hate the West, everything in the West is bad, they're brainwashed, which is really the whole curriculum is 20% of that, then I'd say...
00:18:58.00020% are the kids that feel like they want to be like when I was in college.
00:19:11.000Remember, this is happening during finals week, so 20% are finals protesters.
00:19:16.000If somebody came up to me when I was in college and said, Next week is finals.
00:21:25.000You ever see Yuri Bezmenov talk about it?
00:21:27.000He's a defector from the KGB. He talked about it in a famous interview from 1984. We talk about it way too much, so I'm sorry if you're hearing this again, folks.
00:21:35.000But he basically laid out exactly what was going to happen to America in 1964. And he was saying...
00:22:19.000So then they slowly started bringing it in and people...
00:22:23.000The general narrative is, if you say, if I say to you right now, if you say anywhere, I think America's a great country, people go, oh my god, do you hear this psychopath?
00:22:35.000So I'm saying, if you start from the premise that America is evil, which is basically the premise today, and everything we do is based on oppression and violence, then anybody that goes against that,
00:23:20.000Look, there's clearly over history, regardless of what you think about right-wing people, clearly over history there have been brilliant conservative people.
00:23:29.000And to not address that and to not have those people talk and to only allow liberal people to talk or progressive people to talk, you're going to get a distorted worldview.
00:23:38.000And that's what these kids are getting.
00:23:40.000Well, I mean, even just the fact that Russia and China didn't force them to stop people from speaking at these places.
00:23:55.000But you've been pushed into a category...
00:23:58.000That people are saying you're this kind of guy because they're so far to the left and so stringent ideologically that if you fluctuate, you're out of the loop.
00:24:26.000And if those people are rabid about it and excited about it, a lot of people find that attractive.
00:24:31.000Just like a lot of people find Islam attractive.
00:24:33.000And they don't just find it attractive because of the discipline and the tenets and all the different things that seem to resonate with some people.
00:24:39.000They find it attractive because those people are all in.
00:24:42.000And you want to be in a group that's all in.
00:24:57.000Moderates are considered, all you can see is a bland guy in Dockers with his goddamn, you know, with his dad bod, and nobody's interested in moderates.
00:30:30.000So while you were studying martial arts, seriously, just remember there was a whole bunch of lazy pricks that bought magazines and trophies just so we were like stolen valor of martial arts.
00:31:28.000You're fucking, you're doing some shit you think looks like kung fu.
00:31:31.000And you're telling people that you're a master, and you're practicing in the park, and you've got a bunch of other dumb people that are following you.
00:36:00.000But they can't decipher it yet, but they're hoping they can do that through AI. First of all, if you don't have a routine about dolphins' accents, you're crazy.
00:36:14.000I got on very high edibles with my daughter when we went fishing, and these dolphins came by the boats, and they were jumping up in the air, and then I had this crazy thought that what if the concept of me, like we think,
00:36:29.000when you think of yourself as, you know, when you refer to yourself me, you're thinking of yourself living in this world With these genes and this city and this street, but the thought of me, like, what if me to me is the same as me to a dolphin?
00:36:44.000And then I thought, like, what if that's the same with all human beings?
00:36:47.000Everybody's just experiencing life through different biological circumstances, different life experiences, but what if me is the same in every single human being, just dealing with different problems?
00:37:01.000I don't even understand what you're saying.
00:37:02.000What I'm saying is that when you think of yourself, when you think Colin Quinn, like when you think like, oh, I'm looking at the world, this is me.
00:37:20.000But I was thinking, when the dolphins would jump up, they would look at you.
00:37:24.000They'd look you in the eye, and you'd see that they're intelligent.
00:37:27.000And I was thinking, what if I lived his life, I would be him.
00:37:32.000And what if he lived my life, he would be me.
00:37:34.000And what I think of as me is just me stumbling into a bunch of experiences with very particular genetics, Particular life lessons that I'm carrying around, and I think that's me.
00:37:46.000But if the energy of me, the very core of it, is exactly the same in everybody.
00:37:51.000We're just experiencing life through different circumstances, but it's the same thing.
00:37:57.000What about when I was thinking about the whole martial arts thing, too, was when you think about dolphins fighting sharks or saving people from sharks, that's almost a martial art, too.
00:40:40.000But I do, you know, I've been doing this series called Block by Block on YouTube, which is with this guy, a homeless pimp, you know him, Mike Lavin.
00:40:51.000I have a bunch of episodes where I interview you.
00:40:53.000It's my little, you know, like the thing I care the most about doing it, which is...
00:40:59.000I interview people from different neighborhoods in New York that I know over the years and then just get them to tell stories about their neighborhoods.
00:41:07.000So I was talking to my friend from Hell's Kitchen, Mike Spillane.
00:43:29.000It was a combination of everything, all the music studios, Lincoln Center on one side, and in the middle is all these crazy Irish guys and Puerto Ricans.
00:48:01.000You just take the train, you're right there.
00:48:02.000And, but it was so psychotic that, and I actually knew, I knew a girl that ended up going into, like, working in those Times Square booths.
00:48:12.000And I'm sure a lot of people did, but it was really crazy to me that she was doing that, you know?
00:49:10.000It was totally legitimate for a couple of years.
00:49:13.000I don't know when it turned, but I remember when I went to college, they showed Deep Throat or one of these, Debbie Dubs Dallas, one of these porn movies in, like, the Student Union.
00:55:24.000Wait, Jackie Gleason in that movie, and I'll tell you who else, because I remember when I saw Caddyshack for the first time, and I was like a young kid, and I'm like, oh, Caddyshack, my heroes are in it.
00:55:35.000Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, all these cool guys, even Rodney.
00:55:37.000And I go, and then they got this guy from a sitcom, Ted Knight, and then he steals the movie.
00:55:42.000And the same thing happened with Jackie Gleason and Smokey the Bandit.
00:55:57.000Did you ever hear they said some reviewers, some famous, back when reviewers were famous, goes, I just, it was Laurence Olivier and him did a movie together.
00:56:04.000He goes, I just watched a movie with the greatest living actor and Laurence Olivier.
00:58:43.000And so you're basically just trying to kick this other dude in the face or in the chest as hard as possible and stop his body from working right.
01:00:13.000You get smashed in the nose enough, what happens is the inside of your nose, all that tissue swells up and bleeds, and then it gets broken, and your septum gets twisted and blocks off, and then you get like calcium deposits inside your nose.
01:01:13.000And when I was there, Blinky Rodriguez, who was Benny's brother-in-law, amazing fighter too, a great, great kickboxer, he had lost, I believe, a family member to gang violence.
01:01:27.000I don't want to say exactly who it was because I'm not sure if I remember, but I want to say a son to gang violence.
01:01:32.000And then, if it's not that, I apologize.
01:01:35.000So he offered free classes to gang members.
01:01:40.000So he wanted to teach these gang members discipline, give them a sense of community, and give them structure.
01:02:52.000You cannot humiliate one of these guys.
01:02:54.000So you just move around, be defensive with eight swing punches, just work on blocks, work on moving, footwork, touch him a little bit, but there's no going after him.
01:03:13.000But a lot of great kickboxers were there, too.
01:03:16.000It was also like Pete Sugarfoot Cunningham was there, and Blinky was there teaching classes, which to me was like as a kid who grew up watching him on TV, to be in their gym.
01:03:29.000But then, unfortunately, the earthquake fucked up the roof, and when it rained, when the rainy season came, the whole building got destroyed.
01:03:38.000The roof was all fucked up from the earthquake.
01:03:39.000Oh, you were there after the earthquake?
01:03:40.000I was there right after the earthquake, and then the rain came after that, and their building was fucked.
01:03:46.000So we eventually opened up a place in North Hollywood, and I went there for a while, but it was just Benny, and it was a smaller place.
01:03:52.000I was in LA during the earthquake, during that 94 earthquake.
01:03:56.000And I was staying in this like temporary housing place.
01:04:01.000It was across from Northridge, but it was like in Westwood district.
01:04:07.000And I wake up and I go, oh my god, I'm dreaming that my bed is flying across this entire room.
01:08:02.000And I didn't know that old stages used to be slanted, and upstage meant you moved backwards, which is kind of crazy.
01:08:09.000Instead of saying, would you step back, move upstage.
01:08:12.000Like, everybody's using these old-timey terms for a slanted stage so that the whole audience who's seated there could see everything, because they did it in front of a live crowd.
01:08:21.000But that must have been fun doing it in front of a live crowd.
01:08:34.000So that got canceled, and then I got lucky that I had a development deal with NBC right after that, and I was going to do my own show, but they said, hey, we got a part on this show that we're already going to do, and we're going to recast it.
01:13:29.000And in LA, the problem, though, if you're fucking around with, like, a Tesla with 30% power, you got 30% battery left, and it's 3pm, like, oh, buddy, you might be fucked.
01:15:42.000They would start a bonfire and right before they threw the guy on the bonfire, they would hold him out by his arms and legs, hack off his arms and his legs while he's still alive and throw him on the fire to watch him squirm like a worm.
01:16:26.000And that was the entire country, except for the agriculture.
01:16:29.000There's a lot of people that accepted agriculture in the southeast, and they were calmer and not war-bearing, and they weren't even riding horses a lot.
01:16:39.000The Comanches were the horse-bearing ones.
01:16:42.000And they were the most fierce, and they only ate meat, so they could go for days without food, unlike some of the settlers, some of the people that were trying to make it across, and some of the people that they fought.
01:16:53.000What about, I've been reading this book, speaking of cruelty, Jerusalem.
01:17:10.000I just worked with him last week, and he was just, you know, he was telling me the stone stories.
01:17:17.000He was bodyguard for 20 years for the Stones.
01:17:19.000He tells the greatest, because he's a very intelligent guy, but he was a boxer, then became a bodyguard for the Stones, and then moved on and started doing stand-up.
01:17:29.000He's also got doctorates in veterinary medicine.
01:17:33.000But he started telling me, do you ever hear this one about Mick Jagger, about the people in wheelchairs?
01:17:39.000Because, you know, you just feel like, oh, Keith was a cool guy, Mick was a...
01:17:42.000Mick Jagger, every day, every show for 20 years, would take this guy, Kevin, put on a hoodie so nobody could recognize him, go up...
01:17:52.000Because in those days, they put the wheelchairs in a...
01:17:54.000If you were in a wheelchair, they wouldn't let you be with your friends.
01:17:56.000They'd put you in a separate wheelchair section in the balcony.
01:18:01.000Mick Jagger would go up with 8-tracks t-shirts, hand them out, never told the press, never made sure nobody knew about it except this bodyguard, and talk to all the people in wheelchairs and give them t-shirts and give them 8-tracks for 20 years.
01:23:06.000Of all the people who'd be compared to him, I don't think Simon and Garfunkel are what they'd want to be compared to, if you know what I mean.
01:24:46.000And it's also a bunch of people that have been bullied, and they've been marginalized, and now they're a part of a team, and then they bully other people.
01:26:19.000And she gave the speech, she goes, she was the producer, I guess, of the movie, and she goes, and my husband, who doesn't have a phone, never had a phone, never had a computer, this guy does all these high-tech things, he doesn't own a computer or a phone!
01:28:10.000And I guess if you just choose to not engage in it at all, then you're only concentrating on work because you're not checking your favorite sites.
01:31:49.000Because if you just want to look at it objectively, if you didn't think of it as a man and a woman, if you just took it like an equation, if you just looked at the numbers that are on one side of this equation, if you're trying to pretend that these two numbers are equivalent, and you look at one of them and it has a much greater lung capacity,
01:32:09.000much stronger heart, Denser bones, different hip structure, less susceptibility to ACL tears, different reaction times.
01:32:16.000If you just looked at just the system, just a system of what it means to be a male human being and compared it to like the elite of elite female human beings, you'd go, oh, this is not an equal.
01:33:02.000And they're not going to be able to come anymore.
01:33:03.000Like, if you're encouraging them to get the operation, which is crazy because they're doing thousands of them, you'll never have an orgasm again.
01:33:34.000They know that they're not allowed because...
01:33:36.000They don't want to throw the baby out of the bathwater.
01:33:38.000And it's like, there's a lot of things going on where they're like, why would I sacrifice against my community when I'm just going to get screwed by both sides on it?
01:33:46.000That's the other thing that goes on with the internet hysteria, is that suddenly, if you deviate at all, you're out in bad standing with everybody.
01:34:03.000Yeah, and then gay people who say that they wanted to be trans when they're younger, but then they realize they're just gay when they're older, and thank God I didn't do anything.
01:34:14.000There was a study about that, about how a lot of the people that thought that they were trans when they were younger, in time, they're just gay.
01:34:43.000Of course you're gonna feel different and now you're saying oh this is how I always was if it is how you always always were you wouldn't have to take this Exogenous hormone that's not that wouldn't be necessary if you think you're a boy just be a boy You know you might just be a gay girl right if you think you're a boy And you're you're a girl just live your life the way you want to live your life absolutely But if you start injecting things into your body when you're 14 or 15 years old,
01:36:30.000I remember when I was 11, I had to go down to, I wanted to buy a 45 record.
01:36:34.000I'm from the days, there were 45 records.
01:36:36.000And I asked my aunt, could I have a cigarette?
01:36:38.000Because you had to walk two avenues, and each block, three blocks and two avenues, and every block, there was a group of kids, also 11 years old, that were up at that hour, hey you, that's what you didn't want to hear.
01:38:11.000No, it's a crazy story, but the guy was just a compulsive liar, pathological liar.
01:38:17.000And he claimed he was a black belt in some martial art, and a lot of people started getting real suspicious of him.
01:38:23.000What he did was he made his friend drop him off in the woods and he brought a duffel bag with him and he said he was entering into a kumite, like a no rules kumite karate fight in the woods and come back and pick me up here tomorrow.
01:38:39.000So the guy shows up the next day, and now he doesn't have the duffel bag, but now he has a trophy that's the same size as the duffel bag, and he said he won the tournament.
01:38:49.000And so he gets in the guy's car, and the guy drives him back.
01:38:55.000So he's telling, he just made up a karate tournament in the woods and had his friend drop him off and then had a bag that he brought with him.
01:39:25.000He was apparently allegedly banging this guy's wife and Found the guy got the guy like in his karate studio and strangled the guy to death and then was seen driving around in the guy's car And eventually got arrested for it.
01:41:43.000Eddie had separated from him and then, after that, we hear this story that he killed this guy and was driving the guy's fucking Jaguar around town.
01:41:56.000Don't you think that compulsive liars, like, I feel like there's not enough research on What it is, because sometimes you'll be like, that's not true, and they look at you, and you're not embarrassing them.
01:47:18.000Cruz's wallet and purse were discovered by Fiello's housemate inside a black gym bag placed under a rafter in the unfinished ceiling of the garage in August 2003, just one month after Fiello was kicked out.
01:47:31.000He later admitted in June 2003, nearly three months after Cruz was killed, that he had buried Cruz's body underneath the garage before pouring cement right before a sale of the house was closed.
01:48:40.000Now, Fiello wasn't there, and while looking in the garage, recalled Fiello using concrete just before moving out.
01:48:47.000Batch remembered how uncharacteristically secretive he was about the project and his overreaction when Bach walked in on him pouring concrete.
01:48:57.000According to New York State Detective Lieutenant T.J. Mulroney, Bach's information gave us the break in the investigation we were hoping for.
01:49:53.000Meanwhile, my friends that grew up around there, when they were little kids, they were telling me they used to throw snowballs at the old man's bar, that bar.
01:50:00.000They're like, ah, ha, ha, they throw snowballs at the old man's drink in there.
01:50:04.000Meanwhile, they were just slaughtering people in that place.
01:50:06.000Yeah, they're throwing little 12-year-old kids like, ah, the old bastards, you know?
01:56:09.000And that's also, we have that with memes now.
01:56:12.000And some memes, you know who did it, because they put like a watermark on it, and they post it on their site.
01:56:18.000Some memes, you get in a text message chain.
01:56:21.000Someone just sends you something, you're like, and then you send it to your friends, and they're like, and nobody knows where it came from.
01:56:29.000And some of them are some of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen online.
01:57:10.000And when you're sourcing from millions and millions and millions of people, like we're doing currently, probably more, probably billions of English-speaking people that are contributing to the meme pool of the world.
01:57:21.000Because you have all these other countries with millions of people.
01:57:23.000It's probably a billion-plus people that are doing that.
01:59:16.000And I remember telling my girlfriend at the time, I came back, and we went out to dinner that night, and we were eating, and I was like, I'm not anywhere near as funny as this guy.
01:59:25.000And he doesn't even want to be a comedian.
01:59:33.000I mean, just the fucking guy had a funny take on everything.
01:59:36.000And he was a drunk, but he quit drinking like that.
01:59:40.000Never went back to it, never fell off the wagon, was getting hammered every night, and then went to nothing, and still had the sensibility of a hilarious guy at the bar.
01:59:50.000He still act like a drunk, but he was stone cold sober.
02:00:25.000I was looking up the origin of knock-dock jokes, and this popped up in this article that said, in Europe, incessant wordplay became treated as a psychological condition.
02:00:34.000Oh my god, Jamie's gotta go to a hospital.
02:01:13.000According to Psychology Today, German neurologist Alfred Forster identified manic punning in what eventually became known as Forster Syndrome.
02:03:46.000Have you thought about doing something like that, where you host something with comics?
02:03:50.000Well, when I did this cop show on YouTube, it was basically like a law and order show, and I started having comedians on, and I was planning on making it like I would have Jim on, but it would...
02:04:02.000The plot would involve insulting him and like attacking him.
02:04:05.000And then Bobby Kelly came on and he's dressed as sister, like a villain.
02:04:10.000And he's like complaining about me putting him in this, you know, women's outfit and Keith Robinson.
02:04:15.000So it became sort of like, that's what I would do.
02:04:56.000Yeah, it was definitely an interesting thing, but I thought I would do it in that form, the cop shit thing, because that was more, you could still do it, and you could make fun of the culture at the same time.
02:05:07.000It was another way of doing it, but anyway, I did that for a while, but, you know.
02:06:35.000I went to a movie recently and I'm leaving the movie theater and I went into the bathroom and as I'm leaving the bathroom, this guy walks in and he recognizes me.
02:07:04.000I didn't expect to see him, and so I open the door, and this guy's there, and he says what's up to me, and I think he recognized me because it's like, you know, Greg's dead.
02:09:22.000Like, if you were a fucking creep, you'd want to work with kids.
02:09:26.000There's been many times in my life where I've been propositioned to get a huge role, Lawrence says in the podcast.
02:09:30.000I lost my agency because I went to the hotel room where the actor alleges a prominent director showed up in his robe, asked me to take my clothes off, said he needed to take Polaroids of me, And said, if I did X, Y, and Z, I would be the next Marvel character.
02:13:57.000And I remember the leader, I don't remember his name, but he looked just like, remember that movie Angel Heart, when De Niro plays Louis Cipher, Lucifer?
02:14:41.000So it's like, they look around, they go, and they probably think to themselves like, hey, if they want, like any thief thinks, if it was that important to them, they wouldn't leave it out there.
02:16:15.000That's one where you just go, maybe if you saw him the night before, gave him Give him a hug and tell him how funny he was and how much you love him.
02:17:08.000Swinging his shirt around, and he goes on stage, and he starts playing drums on the stool, and everybody's going crazy, and then he goes into his material, 818 till I die, and everybody's dying.
02:17:21.000I mean, he just took over the room, and I remember saying, like, he does so many of these late night sets that he just comes on with his big energy, and he just recharges the whole room.
02:17:34.000That's the kind of, yeah, that's like, well, that's that same Chris Farley thing where they would just come in and change the energy, right?
02:18:41.000And as much as we love it, and I love watching comedians and being a comedian, and I love watching comedians doing their bits and working it out, it's still...
02:21:39.000The only way you were going to make it is if you had options.
02:21:42.000My friends that all kept a full-time job and didn't give up on that job never made it as a comic.
02:21:48.000I don't know one who kept the full-time job and then got to a certain point in time where they could retire from the job and then maintain the same level of comedy as their peers.
02:22:28.000And what's crazy what you're doing that I think is really interesting is like you're still doing stand-up, but you've also decided to do these one-man shows.
02:24:08.000Do you sit down and just write it all out on a computer?
02:24:11.000No, I go out, like, the Constitution show is a perfect example.
02:24:15.000I went every night to the Creaking Cave in Long Island City, and Rebecca directed it.
02:24:22.000So every night I go, because I was like, I want to do a show about the Constitution, because I was, everybody loves the Constitution on every side of every issue.
02:24:29.000Everybody's like, Constitution's a great document.
02:24:31.000So I just wanted to do a whole show on the Constitution, because I was like, yeah, why is it great?
02:24:35.000And so I just would work it out of Creek and Cave all the time.
02:24:38.000Just in front of four people, seven people.