The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

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00:00:12.000 Hello Sebastian.

00:00:13.000 What's up?

00:00:18.000 It's my first time here at the Austin property.

00:00:22.000 Yes.

00:00:24.000 And first of all, most comfortable chair I've ever sat.

00:00:28.000 They're great, right?

00:00:29.000 I feel like when I come here or when I come do this podcast, it's my third time on it, I feel like I'm in the future.

00:00:37.000 I feel like you got things that aren't even out yet, right?

00:00:42.000 I just feel like this chair, the general public can't even have access to it yet.

00:00:47.000 No, but they do.

00:00:47.000 We've had these for years.

00:00:48.000 Whatever they are.

00:00:49.000 These are great.

00:00:51.000 Then, I feel like I've never drank water out of...

00:00:57.000 Metal cup?

00:00:58.000 Yeah.

00:00:58.000 We're sustainable here.

00:01:02.000 I feel like there's a reason for everything that you do.

00:01:06.000 There's definitely a reason for metal cups. 0.90

00:01:08.000 You really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic.

00:01:09.000 Okay.

00:01:10.000 Again.

00:01:11.000 I mean, I do.

00:01:12.000 I drink a plastic water bottle.

00:01:14.000 Someone gives me one.

00:01:15.000 But I avoid them whenever I can.

00:01:17.000 Yeah, of course.

00:01:18.000 We all know, oh, the plastics.

00:01:21.000 I'm drinking out of plastic bottles myself, and I don't know.

00:01:24.000 I don't see that much of a... 0.71

00:01:27.000 It's going to turn you into a chick. 1.00

00:01:28.000 Maybe.

00:01:29.000 Maybe.

00:01:32.000 Is this even real water?

00:01:33.000 What kind of water is this?

00:01:35.000 Yeah, it's water.

00:01:35.000 It's filtered.

00:01:35.000 All right.

00:01:36.000 Filtered water.

00:01:36.000 Yeah.

00:01:37.000 What is it like?

00:01:38.000 It's a super filter.

00:01:39.000 Some crazy filter. 1.00

00:01:40.000 Definitely a special machine that you can't even unplug.

00:01:42.000 Yeah.

00:01:43.000 Right?

00:01:43.000 You can't get this water outside this room.

00:01:45.000 You can't get the water outside the room.

00:01:46.000 It's good water, right?

00:01:49.000 It's very delicious.

00:01:51.000 And then you got a whole...

00:01:53.000 I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area on your side of the table. 0.99

00:02:00.000 There's just so much shit going on over there. 0.99

00:02:03.000 There's tins. 1.00

00:02:05.000 Mammoth teeth.

00:02:06.000 I got an arrowhead, a legit arrowhead.

00:02:09.000 It's probably 500,000 years old.

00:02:12.000 You got soil!

00:02:15.000 On your bookshelf out there?

00:02:17.000 Yes.

00:02:18.000 Your soil.

00:02:19.000 I've never seen anybody jar soil before.

00:02:21.000 Well, that was from a gentleman who runs White Oaks Pastures.

00:02:26.000 His name is Will Harris.

00:02:27.000 And he has this amazing farm.

00:02:31.000 It's a regenerative farm.

00:02:32.000 And he gave us two pieces of soil.

00:02:36.000 Was that Carl Barkin?

00:02:38.000 He wants a fight.

00:02:39.000 He didn't get enough biting me this morning.

00:02:42.000 One more.

00:02:43.000 One more outfit. 0.68

00:02:45.000 Carl's getting hard, dude.

00:02:46.000 He bit my finger.

00:02:47.000 That was a real yipe that I... When he bit me this morning, I was like, yo!

00:02:51.000 Carl goes after you.

00:02:52.000 Yeah, he went after me.

00:02:54.000 But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil, which means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run, where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate and they live off the land in a natural way.

00:03:09.000 And it's a deep, rich, dark soil.

00:03:12.000 And the other soil, which is pale, that's industrial soil.

00:03:16.000 That's soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers and the top soil's dead and it's just garbage, which is most of what we eat.

00:03:24.000 See, the difference between you and I is...

00:03:28.000 You actually remember what the soil does.

00:03:33.000 Somebody gave me soil?

00:03:34.000 Somebody gave me soil?

00:03:35.000 And you said, you got soil?

00:03:36.000 Yeah, somebody gave me dirt.

00:03:38.000 And I wouldn't know the difference between the two.

00:03:41.000 You see, the dark dirt is the good dirt.

00:03:43.000 That's the real dirt.

00:03:45.000 That's how dirt's supposed to look out in the wild.

00:03:47.000 That's what we're supposed to be eating food from.

00:03:50.000 Mineral-rich soil, so you get healthy vegetables, healthy animals.

00:03:54.000 That's beautiful that you have that on display.

00:03:57.000 And again, coming and taking a tour of this place...

00:04:03.000 Is inspiring.

00:04:05.000 You make me want to spend money.

00:04:10.000 Yeah.

00:04:10.000 You should spend money.

00:04:12.000 You definitely should spend money.

00:04:13.000 Because if you don't spend money, what's the point in having it?

00:04:15.000 I know.

00:04:16.000 I wish I could get there.

00:04:17.000 Come on, bro.

00:04:18.000 Look at that watch.

00:04:19.000 You're balling.

00:04:19.000 Look at that thing.

00:04:20.000 What is that?

00:04:21.000 My wife gave me this.

00:04:23.000 That's a beautiful watch.

00:04:23.000 What is that?

00:04:24.000 It's a Cartier watch for our wedding.

00:04:26.000 That's gorgeous.

00:04:27.000 Thank you.

00:04:27.000 Let me see that.

00:04:27.000 Let me look at that quickly.

00:04:28.000 Ooh, that's a pretty watch.

00:04:30.000 That is a lovely watch.

00:04:32.000 Well, thank you, Joe.

00:04:32.000 I appreciate it.

00:04:33.000 Yeah.

00:04:34.000 Yeah, she gave me this for her wedding gift.

00:04:36.000 Very nice.

00:04:37.000 But yeah.

00:04:37.000 My wife's got taste.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, she does.

00:04:39.000 Obviously.

00:04:40.000 She got... 1.00

00:04:42.000 You handsome bastard. 1.00

00:04:43.000 She got a lot more taste than I do. 1.00

00:04:45.000 I'll tell you that right now.

00:04:45.000 I know.

00:04:46.000 Yeah, I let my wife pick out almost everything. 1.00

00:04:48.000 When I have nice sneakers on, it's generally my wife bought them.

00:04:51.000 Does your wife comment on your clothing?

00:04:56.000 She does, but she leaves me alone for the most part.

00:04:59.000 But she'll dress me occasionally if I have to go out. 0.99

00:05:02.000 But basically, I'm a fucking teenager. 0.98

00:05:04.000 Yeah, like a t-shirt, like a jujitsu t-shirt guy. 0.99

00:05:08.000 I wear t-shirts.

00:05:09.000 They're comfortable.

00:05:10.000 I wear jeans.

00:05:11.000 They're comfortable. 0.99

00:05:12.000 You know, I don't really give a fuck. 0.99

00:05:13.000 I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit. 0.99

00:05:16.000 I wear suits.

00:05:17.000 Yeah, I have some nice suits.

00:05:18.000 I have David August, maybe a whole...

00:05:20.000 I have like a whole row in my office.

00:05:23.000 I'm in my house, my closet, filled with suits.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, I got a bunch of custom-made suits.

00:05:28.000 Because I can't wear regular suits.

00:05:30.000 I don't fit in them, you know?

00:05:31.000 There's not a lot of 200-pound 5'8 dudes.

00:05:33.000 Just very odd-shaped.

00:05:36.000 They don't make clothing.

00:05:37.000 Chimp sizes. 0.95

00:05:39.000 Short dudes who are really wide.

00:05:41.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 But it's a nice fitted suit. 0.99

00:05:44.000 It's a fucking wonderful thing to have because it just fits you perfect. 0.99

00:05:47.000 All the cuffs and everything. 0.99

00:05:49.000 You feel different.

00:05:50.000 You put it on.

00:05:51.000 You know?

00:05:52.000 All the boys, we did a show in Vegas.

00:05:55.000 We did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena, and we did me and Brian Simpson, Tony Hinchcliffe, and Hans Kim.

00:06:00.000 And I got them all suits.

00:06:02.000 I said, let's all get, like, we're doing Vegas.

00:06:04.000 Come on, let's do it Rat Pack style.

00:06:05.000 So we got some of these beautiful David August suits, and Jamie got one too.

00:06:10.000 It was incredible.

00:06:10.000 Nice.

00:06:11.000 It was so much fun.

00:06:12.000 Yeah.

00:06:12.000 It's nice.

00:06:13.000 You feel different when you show up with a suit on.

00:06:15.000 You do feel different.

00:06:16.000 However, I... Look at that.

00:06:17.000 That's us.

00:06:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:19.000 Come on, son.

00:06:19.000 That's a nice shot.

00:06:22.000 Sharp.

00:06:22.000 Everybody's looking sharp.

00:06:24.000 Look at Jamie with the shades.

00:06:25.000 Come on.

00:06:26.000 Got the full Pulp Fiction ponytail going on.

00:06:29.000 Look at you.

00:06:31.000 Nice, right?

00:06:32.000 I feel, though, with a suit, and I've noticed this as I've gained some weight in the midsection, wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have a very kind of...

00:06:49.000 Tight body.

00:06:51.000 Right, if you get stuck around here, it binds you.

00:06:54.000 Tuck in the shirt, there's the buttons hanging out.

00:06:57.000 So I'm fluctuating in my weight, where the suits I got right now, I gotta work into them.

00:07:05.000 Yeah, well you and me are both Italian, and Italians just love our pasta.

00:07:09.000 It's a real problem.

00:07:10.000 It's a problem, especially after you hit 50, it just seems to not go away.

00:07:15.000 It doesn't go away.

00:07:16.000 The only way to go away is to not eat pasta.

00:07:19.000 That's the only way.

00:07:20.000 It's the only way for me.

00:07:21.000 Not eat pasta and booze.

00:07:23.000 If I cut way back on the booze and no pasta, my body just goes and shrivels back to normal.

00:07:29.000 Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to get back in shape.

00:07:33.000 It's so hard to avoid that food.

00:07:35.000 The food is just like, if it's in front of me, I just have a real problem.

00:07:39.000 Well, you like to eat meat.

00:07:41.000 Do you find that the meat is helping your physique?

00:07:47.000 Yeah, if I just eat meat.

00:07:49.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, because meat is very satisfying.

00:07:52.000 Meat has what's called a high satiety rate, which means when you eat it, you get satisfied when your body's had enough.

00:07:59.000 But I always say this, like, if you gave me a steak, just a steak, 16-ounce steak, I eat it, I'm good.

00:08:05.000 I don't need anything else.

00:08:06.000 But if there's a bowl of pasta next to that steak, I'm eating the pasta, too.

00:08:10.000 If there's some bread and butter, I'm going to eat the bread and butter.

00:08:13.000 Somebody rolls out dessert, of course I'll have dessert.

00:08:15.000 Next thing you know, I've consumed, you know, 1,500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need.

00:08:22.000 You just get addicted to just stuffing your face.

00:08:29.000 If I don't leave like this, my stomach literally will distend out. 0.97

00:08:35.000 When I look at myself in the mirror, I'm disgusted.

00:08:38.000 Like, what have you eaten?

00:08:40.000 Look at all the mass you've put in your body.

00:08:43.000 Because if you looked at, like...

00:08:45.000 We keep your stomach like right here.

00:08:46.000 This is my normal stomach.

00:08:48.000 But if you add that much food, which is I'll consume that much food easy, it just goes right here.

00:08:55.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:08:56.000 And you just look at you like, you fat piece of shit. 1.00

00:08:59.000 You lazy, slovenly, greedy fuck. 1.00

00:09:04.000 Like look what you've eaten. 1.00

00:09:07.000 You sweat at night when you sleep after you have meat?

00:09:10.000 I'm drenched.

00:09:12.000 I have a thing called an eight sleep mattress cover.

00:09:16.000 I have one. 0.99

00:09:17.000 They're fucking amazing. 0.99

00:09:18.000 Okay. 0.99

00:09:18.000 It's a game changer. 0.99

00:09:19.000 Okay, so do you crank that thing up to ten after you eat a meal like that to cool off the body?

00:09:25.000 No.

00:09:27.000 Generally, if I'm sweating, it's because I'm having nightmares.

00:09:30.000 You know, I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched.

00:09:33.000 Not in that thing, though.

00:09:34.000 That thing, generally, I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it.

00:09:38.000 Really?

00:09:39.000 I always used to wake up sweaty.

00:09:40.000 I would wake up on wet sheets.

00:09:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:43.000 No, I eat a ribeye.

00:09:47.000 Two o'clock in the morning, I get up and I'm like sweating.

00:09:51.000 And that never used to happen when I used to eat.

00:09:54.000 I don't remember what I have the eight sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot.

00:10:00.000 I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, but now I got it right there.

00:10:04.000 I sleep like a baby.

00:10:06.000 Do you have it heat up in the morning?

00:10:09.000 I think it does.

00:10:11.000 I think it's on some sort of a cycle.

00:10:13.000 I'm not exactly sure.

00:10:15.000 I don't remember how I set it up, but there's a bunch of different options that you can do.

00:10:20.000 And you can even have a different option for you or your wife if she likes it warmer or cooler.

00:10:24.000 It's nice.

00:10:25.000 No, it's been a game changer for my life.

00:10:26.000 It does make a big difference.

00:10:27.000 Yeah.

00:10:28.000 Taking care of your sleep is...

00:10:30.000 I've really prioritized that.

00:10:32.000 Especially recently because you know owning the club and being out late and I was doing two shows a night Which is also a lot was too much I was doing six hours of comedy a week Just doing three nights just doing Tuesday Wednesday Thursday two shows a night, but it was just I was too tired I was burnt out and I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home shows over you know like 1230 or something like that I get home and Hanging out with the guys at the club.

00:10:59.000 I get home at like 1.30 and then I start writing.

00:11:02.000 And so I write from 1.30 to like 4. And then I have to get up at 10 to work out.

00:11:08.000 I'm like, this is too much.

00:11:09.000 I'm too tired.

00:11:10.000 You're writing material in the dead of night?

00:11:12.000 Yeah, that's what I write.

00:11:14.000 Wow.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep.

00:11:21.000 So I don't have to like, Dad, I don't have to think about anything.

00:11:24.000 Did you do this?

00:11:25.000 Did you put that away?

00:11:26.000 Where's the thing?

00:11:28.000 I don't have to deal with anything.

00:11:30.000 The dog's asleep.

00:11:31.000 Everybody's cool. 1.00

00:11:32.000 I can just sit in front of that fucking computer and think. 0.99

00:11:36.000 And that's the only time that I have free reign in my house where there's no one awake. 0.99

00:11:41.000 So I get my best.

00:11:43.000 And also...

00:11:44.000 I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage, and if you could just hold on to that, like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode, your brain is already thinking.

00:11:54.000 Yeah, for me, I do a voice message.

00:11:58.000 I record the set and I'll listen to it afterwards, but as far as like creating, I mean, I don't know, I feel like after 10 o'clock the whole body shuts down.

00:12:07.000 And I got two small kids, so maybe that's why, you know, they're up early.

00:12:10.000 Sure, they're up early, yeah.

00:12:12.000 But yeah, I mean, 9.30, 10. And talk about the two shows.

00:12:18.000 I mean, I used to do two shows with my eyes closed.

00:12:21.000 And now it's like the second show.

00:12:23.000 It's like, hey.

00:12:24.000 Are you taking vitamins?

00:12:27.000 I take supplements like multivitamin.

00:12:31.000 I'm sure I don't have it dialed in.

00:12:33.000 You should get it dialed in.

00:12:34.000 It'll make a big difference.

00:12:35.000 As much as it should be.

00:12:37.000 But I just feel exhausted, Joe.

00:12:40.000 I am tired.

00:12:41.000 Yeah.

00:12:42.000 And I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive.

00:12:48.000 That's where I'm at.

00:12:50.000 You look like you wake up.

00:12:53.000 Ready to go.

00:12:56.000 I got this whole vision of what your day must look like.

00:13:00.000 You must spring out of bed and go, give me it!

00:13:06.000 Talk about not having a suit on.

00:13:09.000 I don't think, since I've known you, I've seen you yawn.

00:13:16.000 I'm a kid, bro.

00:13:17.000 You constantly look awake.

00:13:20.000 What is it?

00:13:21.000 It's health.

00:13:23.000 The water?

00:13:24.000 It's all the above.

00:13:26.000 Supplements, definitely, that's a big factor.

00:13:28.000 I take a lot of vitamins.

00:13:30.000 I take athletic greens, that's one thing I take, but I take a whole suite of different vitamins.

00:13:36.000 I take a bunch of different things like vitamin D, vitamin K2. I take things for eyesight.

00:13:44.000 I take just fish oil.

00:13:49.000 I take creatine.

00:13:50.000 I take a lot of stuff.

00:13:52.000 Okay.

00:13:52.000 Yeah.

00:13:53.000 I took three or four vitamins once.

00:13:56.000 I swallowed it with some water.

00:13:59.000 I coughed and a puff of white smoke came out of my mouth.

00:14:04.000 Vitamin powder.

00:14:05.000 I think the body's rejecting the vitamins.

00:14:10.000 It's got to be a slow process.

00:14:11.000 You don't want to dive right into the amount of vitamins.

00:14:14.000 The amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup.

00:14:17.000 Jeez.

00:14:17.000 Every day.

00:14:18.000 All right.

00:14:19.000 I'm taking a couple, I guess.

00:14:20.000 I have like a whole cabinet that's filled with supplements, and I pull them out.

00:14:24.000 So when you travel, what do you, carry a suitcase of supplements?

00:14:28.000 I have a bag, and in my bag, most of the time when I travel, there's a company called Pure Encapsulations, and they make these packs, like Athletic Pure Pack.

00:14:38.000 They're great for travel.

00:14:39.000 Very easy.

00:14:40.000 You don't have to think about it.

00:14:41.000 Just rip open the pack, take those vitamins, and you're good.

00:14:44.000 So when I'm on the road, generally.

00:14:46.000 You getting rid of Carl?

00:14:47.000 Is he too rowdy?

00:14:48.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:14:49.000 He's rowdy.

00:14:50.000 He wants to bite me.

00:14:51.000 He's teething.

00:14:53.000 How cute is that dog?

00:14:54.000 He's cute.

00:14:54.000 I just bought a dog.

00:14:55.000 I just got a dog.

00:14:56.000 What'd you get?

00:14:56.000 Never a dog owner in my life.

00:14:59.000 This is the first time I've ever had a dog.

00:15:01.000 It's a Labradoodle.

00:15:02.000 Oh, those are great dogs.

00:15:03.000 It's extremely intelligent.

00:15:05.000 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 But I don't think it likes me.

00:15:07.000 What?

00:15:08.000 I don't know.

00:15:08.000 They're looking at me like...

00:15:09.000 Loves my wife, loves my kids.

00:15:12.000 Doesn't like you.

00:15:12.000 I don't know.

00:15:13.000 It's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids.

00:15:19.000 Really?

00:15:19.000 I'm just very perceptive on the...

00:15:22.000 Maybe he wants to be the man.

00:15:23.000 Is he the man of the house?

00:15:25.000 Well, he's becoming the man. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Does he have balls? 1.00

00:15:28.000 Uh, yeah. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Well, keep his balls. 1.00

00:15:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:30.000 Don't, don't.

00:15:30.000 No.

00:15:31.000 That's what, that's what the one of, I think the dog trainer said.

00:15:34.000 Just keep them.

00:15:35.000 Yeah.

00:15:36.000 Keep his nuts and tight.

00:15:36.000 The whole idea is you don't want unnecessary puppies.

00:15:40.000 Right.

00:15:40.000 I agree.

00:15:41.000 Don't let your dog breed. 1.00

00:15:42.000 But be with your fucking dog. 1.00

00:15:44.000 Like, but if you take your dog's balls off, now your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore. 1.00

00:15:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:49.000 They develop.

00:15:49.000 Yeah.

00:15:49.000 Hip problems and joint problems.

00:15:51.000 They're tired all the time.

00:15:53.000 Just like a man. 1.00

00:15:54.000 If you take his balls away, they become a eunuch. 1.00

00:15:56.000 That's what you're doing to your dog. 0.99

00:15:58.000 I've seen people do it and they're like, I wish I didn't do it.

00:16:02.000 Andrew Huberman said that.

00:16:03.000 He started giving his dog testosterone because he got his dog fixed and then his dog was listless all the time.

00:16:11.000 And so he's like, he felt terrible.

00:16:13.000 And they started doing the research on it and looking into it and like, oh, you need hormones. 0.60

00:16:17.000 Dogs do it just like people do. 0.75

00:16:20.000 It's terrible for them.

00:16:21.000 Yeah, we'll keep his nuts intact.

00:16:25.000 I had a vet that told me that.

00:16:27.000 One vet, a great guy, and he was like, don't do it.

00:16:31.000 Don't do it.

00:16:32.000 Everybody says to do it.

00:16:33.000 You're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed with a bunch of different dogs and have puppies irresponsibly.

00:16:41.000 So your dog has a nice yard.

00:16:43.000 You're a good dog owner.

00:16:45.000 You're with him all the time.

00:16:46.000 Like, don't worry about it.

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:48.000 Don't do it.

00:16:48.000 As long as you're paying attention to him.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, just the whole idea is just to not...

00:16:51.000 I mean, people are irresponsible.

00:16:53.000 That's why I can't go to the dog pound.

00:16:55.000 If I go to the dog pound, I will have 20 dogs.

00:16:58.000 Yeah.

00:16:58.000 My dog, you know, my dog's perfect.

00:17:00.000 He's awesome.

00:17:01.000 But I just...

00:17:03.000 I love dogs.

00:17:05.000 I would have as many...

00:17:07.000 Yeah, I always had dogs.

00:17:08.000 I would have as many dogs as I can.

00:17:10.000 I love them.

00:17:12.000 They're just pure love.

00:17:13.000 And if you have a good relationship with your dogs, if your dogs love you and you love them, it's like every day I wake up and I say to my dog, good morning, sir!

00:17:21.000 And he goes, woo!

00:17:22.000 He starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour and he goes around in circles and we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly.

00:17:31.000 It's like we have a morning ritual.

00:17:33.000 I love dogs, man.

00:17:34.000 Oh, it's nice.

00:17:35.000 It changes your life.

00:17:36.000 They make your life filled with love.

00:17:38.000 You know, cats are cool, but...

00:17:40.000 They're kind of aloof.

00:17:41.000 They want to be pet, and then they go away, and they're cool. 0.92

00:17:44.000 They just want to go outside and kill something.

00:17:46.000 Your dog is like your friend.

00:17:48.000 He wants to hang out with you.

00:17:49.000 I take him to work.

00:17:50.000 He's like, are we going to work?

00:17:51.000 This is crazy.

00:17:52.000 We're going to work.

00:17:53.000 Every day when I bring out the ball, I think he's going to be bored with the ball.

00:17:57.000 I bring out the ball.

00:17:58.000 Today, he's like, enough with the ball.

00:17:59.000 But nope. 1.00

00:18:00.000 Every day, he's like, the fucking ball! 1.00

00:18:02.000 He's got the ball! 1.00

00:18:03.000 He's running around in circles, jumping up in the air, trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it.

00:18:08.000 It's amazing.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, that's what I hear a lot of dog owners over the years.

00:18:13.000 You're not having that experience?

00:18:14.000 Well, not yet.

00:18:15.000 How old is his puppy?

00:18:16.000 He's like three months old.

00:18:18.000 Just spend time with him.

00:18:19.000 Hang out with him.

00:18:20.000 Play with him a lot.

00:18:21.000 I'm playing.

00:18:22.000 I'm just saying.

00:18:23.000 I don't know if it's the cologne I got on, but...

00:18:35.000 Do you wear cologne?

00:18:38.000 I feel like you don't wear cologne.

00:18:39.000 Do you wear cologne?

00:18:41.000 Wear cologne?

00:18:42.000 I thought you said work alone.

00:18:44.000 No, I don't wear cologne.

00:18:46.000 No, I barely wear...

00:18:47.000 I only wear deodorant because I don't want to be offensive.

00:18:50.000 Because I will get offensive.

00:18:51.000 I'll smell terrible.

00:18:52.000 But I wear natural deodorant with no aluminum in it and all that jazz.

00:18:56.000 Of course you do.

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:58.000 I don't smell.

00:19:01.000 You don't smell at all?

00:19:02.000 No.

00:19:03.000 Are you sure?

00:19:04.000 Can I smell you?

00:19:05.000 Go right ahead.

00:19:09.000 How could you not smell?

00:19:10.000 I don't have whatever it is that gives off any type of body odor.

00:19:14.000 Really?

00:19:15.000 I don't have it.

00:19:15.000 Have you been told this by someone or you just like deduce this on your own?

00:19:20.000 I've gotten sweaty many a times and I've asked my wife, do I smell?

00:19:27.000 She says no.

00:19:27.000 So I don't emanate any odor while I'm sweating.

00:19:32.000 Interesting.

00:19:33.000 Maybe your wife can't smell good. 1.00

00:19:35.000 No, I'm telling you, Joe.

00:19:36.000 Believe me, I'm very keen on odors.

00:19:39.000 So if I smell anything, I make sure that that's taken care of.

00:19:42.000 Odors are interesting because, you know, your olfactory senses, they detect changes in smell.

00:19:47.000 They don't detect static smells.

00:19:48.000 That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out. 0.97

00:19:52.000 Like, my family used to live in Pennsylvania, and when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses, fertilizer, it's a fucking terrible smell in the whole town.

00:20:05.000 Like, how can these people live here? 0.96

00:20:07.000 They don't smell it.

00:20:10.000 Oh, the no body odor gene.

00:20:12.000 That's what you have.

00:20:13.000 People have the ABCC11 non-functioning gene variant, have dry earwax, and little to no body odor.

00:20:23.000 Now, I've known this for some time, that I have no body odor, but it's nice to come on the show because there's always a reference put up.

00:20:33.000 I could have looked that up.

00:20:36.000 I never looked it up and here you come and you walk away knowing that you don't have the gene that emits odor.

00:20:43.000 Yeah, some sort of a gene expression.

00:20:45.000 Interesting.

00:20:46.000 I wonder what the benefits...

00:20:48.000 We were talking about this yesterday, like people that didn't shower.

00:20:52.000 There was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin.

00:20:56.000 It was sinful.

00:20:57.000 You want to discourage people.

00:20:59.000 What was that about that we're reading?

00:21:04.000 It was something religious, right?

00:21:06.000 It was about like royalty and old-timey people.

00:21:12.000 But St. Agnes, is that who it was that went his whole life without bathing at all?

00:21:16.000 His whole life, no bathing.

00:21:19.000 Imagine.

00:21:19.000 I couldn't imagine that.

00:21:20.000 Imagine what that guy smelled like. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Imagine what his asshole smelled like. 1.00

00:21:24.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

00:21:26.000 Have you gone recently in the last 10 years without taking a shower? 1.00

00:21:31.000 Or cleaning yourself, at least?

00:21:33.000 Did you miss a day?

00:21:35.000 I've missed a day before.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 But generally, no, because I work out.

00:21:40.000 So if I work out, I always shower.

00:21:44.000 And I'll cold plunge and sauna.

00:21:46.000 So that's, you know, you just drench with sweat. 0.99

00:21:48.000 You feel like shit if you don't wash off a little. 0.99

00:21:51.000 No, I agree. 1.00

00:21:52.000 I'm just, I think I might be showering too much.

00:21:55.000 How much do you shower?

00:21:56.000 Well, I normally get two showers in a day.

00:22:00.000 Really?

00:22:00.000 Sometimes three.

00:22:01.000 I feel like if I'm going to go to dinner, say with my wife, I feel like I can't take the day shower and bleed it into the night.

00:22:09.000 I feel like it's a reset.

00:22:11.000 Right.

00:22:11.000 I get re-ready for the dinner.

00:22:13.000 You want to look nice?

00:22:14.000 You want to feel nice?

00:22:15.000 Put that watch on?

00:22:17.000 Put the watch on and go out and have a nice bowl of pasta.

00:22:20.000 Sweat to death at 2 o'clock in the morning.

00:22:25.000 Do you use the Eight Sleep thing?

00:22:27.000 Does it help you?

00:22:28.000 Well, it's...

00:22:30.000 Again, I got this Eight Sleep.

00:22:32.000 It's supposed to monitor your sleep.

00:22:34.000 I got the Oura Ring.

00:22:36.000 It's supposed to monitor.

00:22:37.000 You know what I need?

00:22:38.000 I need accountability.

00:22:40.000 I need to send the data...

00:22:43.000 And have someone change your lifestyle.

00:22:46.000 And have them analyze it and go, oh, you know what the problem is?

00:22:49.000 You're waking up at 1 o'clock in the morning and that's disrupting your sleep.

00:22:54.000 I got all this data.

00:22:55.000 I got an Apple Watch.

00:22:57.000 Oh, I burned 390 calories.

00:23:00.000 Okay.

00:23:01.000 What does that mean?

00:23:03.000 I have a lot of data.

00:23:05.000 I don't have a lot of analysis.

00:23:08.000 Do you have a trainer?

00:23:09.000 I have a trainer, yeah.

00:23:11.000 Maybe we should get a nutritionist. 0.95

00:23:12.000 You got some bread.

00:23:13.000 Get a nutritionist.

00:23:14.000 Get someone you can show the data to and they'll tell you what you're doing wrong.

00:23:18.000 I need someone to hand over the data.

00:23:21.000 They have companies that do stuff like that.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, you can get that done.

00:23:26.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.000 You should do that.

00:23:27.000 I bet the late night eating thing is a real problem.

00:23:30.000 That one makes you feel terrible when you're sleeping.

00:23:33.000 What's late night eating?

00:23:34.000 Okay, like some say, all right, you should have dinner at 5.30, 6 o'clock, and after that you don't eat if you go to bed around 9, 9.30.

00:23:41.000 I mean, what's a late night meal for you?

00:23:44.000 At 1 o'clock in the morning last night I was cooking elk steaks.

00:23:49.000 1 o'clock in the morning.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:51.000 Well, then you're up till 4.30.

00:23:53.000 I was up till 3.00, yeah.

00:23:55.000 I mean, as long as you're not going to sleep, I figure two, three hours.

00:24:00.000 I think two, three hours is a good time to go to bed after a meal.

00:24:03.000 Yeah, a couple hours.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, but I've done it like where I eat and then go right to bed.

00:24:07.000 That's terrible.

00:24:09.000 That's terrible.

00:24:09.000 We have eight o'clock at night.

00:24:12.000 We're eating.

00:24:12.000 Next thing you know, 841, we're in bed.

00:24:15.000 And I'm like, is this healthy?

00:24:16.000 You should go up for a walk.

00:24:18.000 Go for a walk around your neighborhood.

00:24:19.000 I just saw something online that's walking...

00:24:22.000 I was going to share that.

00:24:23.000 It was at the Huberman Lab.

00:24:24.000 Oh, yeah, there it is.

00:24:25.000 That's from Andrew Huberman again.

00:24:27.000 Brief post-meal walks and blood sugar regulation.

00:24:31.000 So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post-meal walk.

00:24:36.000 As simple as it may sound, the date is impressive.

00:24:38.000 And it is impressive stuff.

00:24:40.000 I forget exactly what the numbers were, but 30-35% change in your blood sugar level.

00:24:46.000 Just by taking a walk around the block after a meal.

00:24:51.000 Pretty amazing.

00:24:52.000 With all this stuff that's out, right?

00:24:54.000 All this information of how to live your life.

00:24:57.000 And you took me to a tour.

00:24:58.000 You got the tank, the sauna, the thing.

00:25:03.000 I feel like at this age, at 50, all this stuff that you got to do to prepare for the day, by the time you're done with it, you got to go back to bed again, right?

00:25:13.000 So...

00:25:13.000 By the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sauna, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed.

00:25:19.000 It's time to go to bed with all the shit you gotta do, right? 0.93

00:25:23.000 It used to be you just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went on with your day. 0.99

00:25:28.000 Now I gotta go submerge myself in water, I gotta go sweat, then I gotta go float in a tank.

00:25:35.000 The tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take...

00:25:38.000 The float tank takes a lot of time, but the other things, like...

00:25:40.000 Cold plunge adds three minutes to my day.

00:25:43.000 Sauna adds 20 minutes to my day.

00:25:45.000 It's 25 extra minutes of my workout.

00:25:47.000 That's it.

00:25:47.000 I wasn't looking for the time breakdown, Joe.

00:25:52.000 I was just saying.

00:25:52.000 But it doesn't take the whole day.

00:25:54.000 But I'm just saying the amount of shit. 0.99

00:25:56.000 Then you gotta eat the vitamins. 1.00

00:25:58.000 The half a cup.

00:26:00.000 But this is all said and done.

00:26:03.000 It's time for dinner.

00:26:05.000 No.

00:26:06.000 No.

00:26:07.000 You get things done, man.

00:26:08.000 You're exaggerating.

00:26:09.000 I get you doing that.

00:26:11.000 It's the way you do humor.

00:26:12.000 I get it.

00:26:13.000 I don't have to exaggerate.

00:26:15.000 It's plenty of time.

00:26:16.000 It's plenty of time.

00:26:17.000 You just don't waste your time.

00:26:19.000 Like today, I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram.

00:26:23.000 It was one of the rare days.

00:26:24.000 I just felt like indulging myself. 0.98

00:26:26.000 I'm like, let's fucking see what's going on in the world. 1.00

00:26:28.000 Bunch of nonsense. 0.99

00:26:29.000 Some interesting things. 0.91

00:26:30.000 But just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour, just wasted scrolling.

00:26:35.000 Yeah, I mean, there's time, there's mind-numbing things that you do to kind of like, whatever, carry yourself throughout the day. 0.99

00:26:40.000 I'm just saying, 20 years ago, nobody knew about any of this shit, about sweating and what that does. 0.99

00:26:48.000 Now with the internet, you could throw up. 0.98

00:26:51.000 You know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, Right?

00:26:56.000 We would just go, oh yeah, no, walk is good for you.

00:26:59.000 Next thing you know, now we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this, that, and the other thing.

00:27:07.000 I'm just saying with the amount of information out there, sometimes I feel a little bit overwhelmed going, how much do I got to do to get through the day?

00:27:19.000 Well, it depends on how you want to feel.

00:27:22.000 If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things.

00:27:27.000 And I firmly believe this is the reason why I'm so productive.

00:27:31.000 And I think if I didn't do the cold plunge and the sauna and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being.

00:27:40.000 I know.

00:27:40.000 I wouldn't have the energy.

00:27:42.000 No, I get it.

00:27:44.000 It's just that there's a lot you gotta do.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, there's a lot you gotta do.

00:27:49.000 Like, I see people on the internet sweating.

00:27:51.000 So I'm like, okay, do I gotta start sweating?

00:27:54.000 Is the steam room that I got at home, is that not enough?

00:27:57.000 Do a couple eucalyptus sprays, breathe in.

00:28:00.000 Sweat a little bit and then I come out, right?

00:28:02.000 That's not bad.

00:28:03.000 Okay, but now do I need an infrared sauna because now I got to get the sweat that's inside that's not coming out of the steam?

00:28:10.000 What's happening, Joe?

00:28:12.000 The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it like there is with the traditional dry sauna.

00:28:18.000 A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data.

00:28:22.000 And the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough.

00:28:27.000 Because you'll cook.

00:28:28.000 Because it's just too crazy.

00:28:30.000 You can't get a 190 degrees steam shower.

00:28:33.000 You'd literally go in there and scald your skin. 0.99

00:28:35.000 But you can get a 190 degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat. 0.61

00:28:41.000 And that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins. 0.81

00:28:43.000 Because your body's reacting to it overheating.

00:28:46.000 So it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect.

00:28:50.000 And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life.

00:28:54.000 I mean, there's a study out of Finland They did a 20-year study that found that using the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at a time, and I think it was 175 degrees, lowers your all-cause mortality by 40%.

00:29:08.000 That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything, lowers it by 40%.

00:29:15.000 And this is a long-term study of many, many people.

00:29:18.000 So, the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam.

00:29:24.000 A steam at 120, is that doing anything?

00:29:27.000 It's doing something.

00:29:28.000 Yeah, it's all good.

00:29:29.000 A hot bath is good.

00:29:30.000 Everything is good.

00:29:31.000 Getting your body to heat up is good, because it gets your body to react, and it's the same thing.

00:29:36.000 It develops those heat shock proteins.

00:29:38.000 A really hot bath is very good for you.

00:29:40.000 If you can get in a nice hot, especially if you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium, get a really hot bath, very, very good for you.

00:29:47.000 You know what I started doing?

00:29:49.000 Talking about magnesium.

00:29:51.000 And I don't know if you've ever done this, but I'm doing...

00:29:54.000 I got a little spray bottle of magnesium.

00:29:58.000 I spray it on my feet at night, and I put socks on.

00:30:03.000 You ever heard of that move?

00:30:04.000 No.

00:30:06.000 Why do you do that?

00:30:08.000 Saw it online.

00:30:09.000 Let me try this.

00:30:10.000 I'm a guy.

00:30:11.000 I'll tell you right now.

00:30:12.000 This is what I do.

00:30:13.000 I don't do research.

00:30:15.000 None?

00:30:16.000 None.

00:30:16.000 I see that.

00:30:18.000 I go, oh, this guy's spraying the magnesium on his feet putting socks on.

00:30:22.000 I'm gonna try that tonight.

00:30:24.000 That's it?

00:30:25.000 No Google search?

00:30:26.000 No Google search, no nothing.

00:30:28.000 Okay.

00:30:28.000 It could be killing me for all I know.

00:30:29.000 I don't think it is.

00:30:30.000 But I'm doing magnesium feet sock sleeps.

00:30:34.000 Does it seem to have a change in the way you feel?

00:30:36.000 Again, haven't done it consistently enough.

00:30:40.000 To even find out if this is helping me.

00:30:43.000 Right.

00:30:43.000 So I'm a guy that does, like, things kind of on the whim, and there's really no consistency with it, right?

00:30:50.000 Let's look into it for you, because the magnesium foot spray, now I'm interested.

00:30:55.000 Like, what is the deal behind that?

00:30:57.000 There's definitely multiple products being sold as magnesium oil for your feet.

00:31:02.000 I didn't see anything necessarily saying you need to keep socks on, too.

00:31:06.000 I throw the socks on just because I don't want magnesium all over the bed.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, that's a good move.

00:31:14.000 No, that's what I'm doing.

00:31:16.000 My wife is even looking at me going, Jesus Christ, this is where we're at now. 1.00

00:31:20.000 I'm at the edge of the bed spraying my feet.

00:31:23.000 I'm like, what?

00:31:23.000 She's like, really?

00:31:26.000 Magnesium on your feet?

00:31:27.000 Is this where the relationship is? 1.00

00:31:29.000 What the fuck? 0.96

00:31:35.000 The internet probably don't even have this information. 0.99

00:31:38.000 I saw it like on a random, I think it was an Instagram video.

00:31:42.000 Well, I would imagine it get absorbed through your skin just like the float tank does.

00:31:47.000 The float tank is a great source of magnesium because there's a thousand pounds Of Epsom salts in the water, and your skin absorbs it.

00:31:54.000 So I would imagine your skin's absorbing that stuff you're spraying on your feet.

00:31:56.000 Yeah, it just doesn't absorb it as well as an oral supplement.

00:32:00.000 Okay.

00:32:00.000 That's about all it says, really.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, so not good absorption.

00:32:03.000 But it works a little bit.

00:32:05.000 Okay.

00:32:06.000 A little something.

00:32:06.000 It can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions.

00:32:09.000 Magnesium helps people sleep, though, right?

00:32:11.000 It's a good one for sleep.

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:14.000 I notice sometimes when I get those IV and there's magnesium in there, I feel exhausted.

00:32:19.000 Yeah.

00:32:22.000 Relaxed.

00:32:23.000 The IV, again, this is another thing people do.

00:32:26.000 Right.

00:32:26.000 Oh, you gotta get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing.

00:32:30.000 Right.

00:32:30.000 I don't even ask.

00:32:31.000 Just give me the bag.

00:32:33.000 And I get it, right?

00:32:37.000 Don't feel any different.

00:32:38.000 No?

00:32:39.000 You will if you're sick.

00:32:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:32:42.000 I tell everybody, if you are down, if you're feeling shit and you're run down, get an IV vitamin drip.

00:32:49.000 It's a game changer, especially with a high dose of zinc and vitamin C. You get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better. 0.98

00:32:58.000 Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last.

00:33:00.000 I was like, how long have you been sick for?

00:33:01.000 He's like, two weeks.

00:33:02.000 I can't shake this call.

00:33:03.000 I go, please listen to me.

00:33:04.000 I just do this.

00:33:05.000 Get a vitamin IV. And he texted me the other day.

00:33:09.000 He's like, Dr. Rogan.

00:33:10.000 He goes, it fixed me.

00:33:11.000 It was like, I'm gonna do that from now on.

00:33:14.000 I'm like, from now on. 0.99

00:33:15.000 Anytime you're sick, you feel like shit, get a high dose vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal, in a bag. 0.99

00:33:24.000 You'll feel much, much better. 0.99

00:33:27.000 Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off whatever the fuck is trying to get you. 0.98

00:33:33.000 Yeah, Joe, listen. 0.99

00:33:35.000 I've done the bag.

00:33:36.000 Right?

00:33:37.000 While ill.

00:33:39.000 And it hasn't helped?

00:33:40.000 Well, it's helped but not like where I came out of it.

00:33:44.000 Like, this is what I'm thinking.

00:33:46.000 If I take the bag and I got a cough, after I take the bag...

00:33:50.000 The cough should go away.

00:33:51.000 I don't want the cough anymore.

00:33:52.000 Right.

00:33:52.000 And if the cough is still there, I feel like, eh, all right.

00:33:55.000 Have you ever done NAD? No.

00:33:57.000 NAD is rough.

00:33:58.000 How do you say it again?

00:34:01.000 Nucleotide adenonide...

00:34:03.000 What is it?

00:34:06.000 Nicotinonide adenonide dinucleotides?

00:34:12.000 Yeah.

00:34:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:13.000 What is it?

00:34:14.000 So NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy bodies in young people.

00:34:26.000 Found in all living cells, NAD is called dinucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups.

00:34:36.000 So you take that in an IV bag, and generally most people do it over a long period of time.

00:34:41.000 You do it over like two hours.

00:34:42.000 So you just watch a movie.

00:34:43.000 Because it's very uncomfortable.

00:34:46.000 What, to get it?

00:34:47.000 Yeah, the NAD is very uncomfortable.

00:34:49.000 It's very uncomfortable for your stomach.

00:34:50.000 It makes you like cramp up.

00:34:53.000 If you do it quick, it's an intense feeling that most people don't enjoy.

00:34:58.000 What's the benefit?

00:35:00.000 What does it do?

00:35:00.000 There's a lot of benefits.

00:35:01.000 There's a benefit for your immune system.

00:35:03.000 There's a benefit cognitively.

00:35:04.000 You feel much better.

00:35:06.000 You come out of it when your body's replenished with that stuff.

00:35:09.000 You just feel fantastic.

00:35:10.000 Okay.

00:35:11.000 I feel really good.

00:35:12.000 That's something else I gotta do.

00:35:14.000 But that's one that needs some time, unless you can go hardcore and just deal with the uncomfortable feeling.

00:35:20.000 No, I don't do anything hardcore.

00:35:22.000 Nothing?

00:35:22.000 Nothing in my life is hardcore.

00:35:26.000 Interesting.

00:35:28.000 Interesting.

00:35:29.000 Do you have an aversion to hardcore things, or is this just how it all panned out?

00:35:32.000 It's just how it all panned out.

00:35:33.000 Hardcore for me is...

00:35:37.000 Hardcore is comedy.

00:35:38.000 That's what I do.

00:35:39.000 Okay.

00:35:39.000 Yeah, one thing.

00:35:40.000 One thing.

00:35:40.000 One thing we're all in on.

00:35:42.000 All in on comedy.

00:35:43.000 Other than that, outside, I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have.

00:35:52.000 Everything with me is a little bit on the surface.

00:35:54.000 Do you really wish that?

00:35:55.000 Because I feel like if you did wish that, you would just do it.

00:35:59.000 Right?

00:35:59.000 Yeah.

00:36:00.000 I just wish I had the...

00:36:01.000 I don't know what it is inside me that would, you know, make me want to learn more about...

00:36:07.000 Like, I like cooking, right?

00:36:09.000 But I don't dive so into it where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing.

00:36:15.000 Right, right, right.

00:36:16.000 Let's look at a YouTube video, make the fish, and then here's the fish.

00:36:22.000 But...

00:36:22.000 I don't take it to another level.

00:36:24.000 I don't go get the beautiful knife or the pots and pans and all the stuff that goes along with cooking.

00:36:31.000 My interest level is surface.

00:36:35.000 Rarely does it go underneath the surface.

00:36:37.000 You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood.

00:36:42.000 Like live, like actual hardwood, not just lump charcoal, like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks, or slowly like cooking the steaks rather, and then searing them at the end over the coals.

00:36:57.000 I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood underneath the grill and then sear the shit out of it. 0.80

00:37:02.000 Okay, I hear it. 0.98

00:37:03.000 I hear it.

00:37:04.000 I hear that.

00:37:05.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 And my brain is gonna explode.

00:37:08.000 Too much?

00:37:09.000 That's true.

00:37:10.000 Too much.

00:37:10.000 That's true.

00:37:11.000 But we're all different, Sebastian.

00:37:12.000 No, I know we're all different.

00:37:13.000 But, like, do you know the kind of wood that it's...

00:37:18.000 Yes.

00:37:18.000 Live oak.

00:37:19.000 You want oak, generally.

00:37:21.000 Live oak.

00:37:22.000 Or you want, if you want to grill hotter.

00:37:25.000 A lot of guys like mesquite.

00:37:27.000 I like mesquite and oak.

00:37:29.000 Those are my two favorite.

00:37:30.000 But I'll try cherry.

00:37:31.000 I'll try some different woods.

00:37:32.000 Some places you can go to get hardwood just for some...

00:37:35.000 Because there's so much barbecue out here.

00:37:36.000 Yeah.

00:37:37.000 There's companies that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house.

00:37:40.000 Okay, speaking of wood, right?

00:37:42.000 I got a pizza oven.

00:37:44.000 My goal is to make pizza.

00:37:47.000 It's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch.

00:37:51.000 The dough and the whole thing.

00:37:52.000 It's very hard.

00:37:54.000 So, I've tried multiple times, and, you know, I'm the guy, again, I'm a guy that, I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same thing I did before, right?

00:38:06.000 Just hoping magically, oh, it's gonna come out!

00:38:10.000 My pizza don't even look like pizza.

00:38:12.000 It looks like the shapes are unrecognizable. 0.99

00:38:16.000 I can't even get a circle on the damn thing. 0.99

00:38:19.000 I work it out. 0.98

00:38:21.000 It's not pliable enough.

00:38:23.000 So when I put it in there, half of the cheese flies off into the stove.

00:38:29.000 I bring it out.

00:38:30.000 It's a mess.

00:38:31.000 Why don't you get pre-made dough?

00:38:32.000 I tried the pre-made dough, Joe.

00:38:34.000 And for whatever the reason, I cannot get a circle.

00:38:39.000 With the thing.

00:38:40.000 I try this.

00:38:41.000 I bet if you went to like a real Italian pizzeria, they would show you how to do it.

00:38:46.000 Again.

00:38:47.000 If you went there?

00:38:47.000 Joe, listen.

00:38:48.000 You teach me something, I come home, I forget half of the shit I learned. 0.98

00:38:52.000 I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything. 0.93

00:38:56.000 Has this always been the case?

00:38:56.000 It's always been the case.

00:38:57.000 But not with comedy.

00:38:58.000 Not with comedy.

00:38:59.000 This is interesting.

00:39:00.000 The one thing that you're successful at, like super successful at, you've like focused entirely on that.

00:39:06.000 I got no more focus.

00:39:07.000 Oh.

00:39:08.000 The focus I have is for comedy.

00:39:10.000 After that, the focus wanes because I feel like I just don't have, you know.

00:39:14.000 That's probably a good way to live.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, just be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing.

00:39:21.000 That sounds like a good balance.

00:39:23.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

00:39:24.000 Well, I would like to learn more things.

00:39:27.000 Even when you got kids now, you could teach your kids how to do the archery.

00:39:34.000 You got the whole archery thing.

00:39:36.000 Hunting.

00:39:36.000 You know how to hunt, right?

00:39:38.000 I'm trying to figure out what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets is concerned.

00:39:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:46.000 Probably talking shit. 1.00

00:39:47.000 Huh? 1.00

00:39:48.000 Talking shit? 1.00

00:39:49.000 They're probably good at talking shit. 1.00

00:39:50.000 My kids are real good at talking shit. 1.00

00:39:53.000 They say some funny things, man. 1.00

00:39:55.000 It's fun.

00:39:56.000 We have a fun house. 0.99

00:39:57.000 It's like a lot of fun shit talking. 0.99

00:39:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:39:59.000 That's always good. 0.99

00:40:01.000 And they make fun of me too, which is fun.

00:40:03.000 Like, there's no, you know, I could never make fun of my parents.

00:40:06.000 There was none of that growing up. 0.99

00:40:08.000 They would fucking yell at you. 0.99

00:40:10.000 Oh, we had that relationship with my parents. 1.00

00:40:13.000 Yeah, you can't be.

00:40:14.000 Italian parents.

00:40:15.000 No, no, we did.

00:40:16.000 Oh, you had a relationship with joking around?

00:40:17.000 Yeah, just goofing around.

00:40:18.000 Oh, okay.

00:40:19.000 My parents were not like that.

00:40:20.000 No, they didn't.

00:40:21.000 There was not a lot of joking around.

00:40:22.000 No.

00:40:22.000 So I love joking around.

00:40:24.000 And so they're making fun of me all the time.

00:40:27.000 Like, it's hilarious.

00:40:29.000 Your daughters?

00:40:30.000 Yeah, they're funny. 1.00

00:40:31.000 They talk shit. 1.00

00:40:32.000 And they know that I like it. 1.00

00:40:33.000 They know that I laugh.

00:40:34.000 So everyone's like, we have a good time. 1.00

00:40:36.000 They talk shit to each other. 1.00

00:40:37.000 They talk shit to their friends. 1.00

00:40:39.000 Talking shit is fun. 1.00

00:40:42.000 It's a fun activity. 1.00

00:40:44.000 It's one of my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club is that everybody's talking shit. 0.99

00:40:49.000 You go back there, everybody's busting balls, cracking on people, guys and girls. 0.99

00:40:53.000 Everyone's laughing. 0.99

00:40:54.000 We're all just shitting on each other. 0.99

00:40:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:40:57.000 And it's hilarious.

00:40:58.000 It's such a beautiful environment.

00:41:01.000 You know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows.

00:41:09.000 I wish you were in last night and I wanted to take you to the club.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, I wish I would have came to the club.

00:41:15.000 It's so much fun, man.

00:41:16.000 It's such a great spot.

00:41:18.000 But here's my thing with that.

00:41:20.000 Here's my take on the green room.

00:41:27.000 I generally tend to retreat and just listen to everything that's going on when comedians...

00:41:36.000 Get together.

00:41:37.000 I'm never the guy like center of attention or contributing to the fun.

00:41:46.000 I've always been the guy that just kind of comes in quiet and listen.

00:41:50.000 Because I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that like...

00:41:56.000 Comfortable.

00:41:57.000 So if I walk into a room, like here, I just did this show with Seinfeld, Nate Bregazzi, and Jim Gaffigan, and we're all backstage.

00:42:05.000 I tend to be the one who's...

00:42:08.000 I listen, and I chime in every now and again.

00:42:11.000 I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like...

00:42:16.000 Pisses on the room.

00:42:18.000 That's actually good.

00:42:19.000 That's a good trait.

00:42:20.000 And also, when you're around those guys, like, hey, what a great time to sit back and listen.

00:42:25.000 You got Seinfeld, Nate Bargatze, and Jim Gaffigan in a room together.

00:42:29.000 Look at that.

00:42:31.000 Yeah, so we had a great time, but I'm just...

00:42:33.000 When did, uh...

00:42:35.000 That's...

00:42:35.000 That's crazy.

00:42:37.000 When did what?

00:42:38.000 I was gonna say, like, look at you.

00:42:40.000 You look like an Arab. 1.00

00:42:41.000 Doesn't even look like you.

00:42:43.000 When did you turn into a guy from Palestine?

00:42:45.000 I don't know.

00:42:46.000 What is that photo?

00:42:47.000 What did someone do?

00:42:48.000 Someone put a filter on you.

00:42:49.000 That does not look like you.

00:42:50.000 Am I right, Jamie?

00:42:51.000 I just darted.

00:42:52.000 No, no, no, no.

00:42:53.000 Dark. 0.73

00:42:54.000 The guy, he came off a yacht.

00:42:55.000 There's no other way. 0.68

00:42:56.000 Like, screw... 0.65

00:42:57.000 He looks like a guy in the Mediterranean that shows you how to get octopus. 0.76

00:43:00.000 What's that?

00:43:00.000 I got Mediterranean blood!

00:43:03.000 I know, but you don't even look like you.

00:43:05.000 Like, in that photo, you look handsome, don't get me wrong, you look great.

00:43:08.000 But you don't look like you.

00:43:09.000 No, you know what it is. 0.96

00:43:10.000 Everybody else is white. 0.93

00:43:11.000 They got... 0.87

00:43:12.000 Ah, super white.

00:43:13.000 That's what it is.

00:43:14.000 When you're next to Jim Gaffigan, right?

00:43:16.000 Right, right, right.

00:43:16.000 Of course you're gonna look like you're delivering fish.

00:43:18.000 That's the filter, because he looks...

00:43:20.000 There's a balance there, I guess.

00:43:21.000 He looks like a normal color in that, which is wrong.

00:43:26.000 Yeah, look how dark you are. 1.00

00:43:27.000 Well, that at least looks like you.

00:43:28.000 That other photo did not look like you.

00:43:30.000 Alright, maybe it was the lighting, Joe.

00:43:32.000 But that's me.

00:43:32.000 I was there.

00:43:34.000 I believe you.

00:43:35.000 I 100% believe you.

00:43:37.000 I'm just saying.

00:43:37.000 Go to that last photo, Jamie.

00:43:39.000 I'm not lying.

00:43:40.000 Go to that last photo. 0.99

00:43:42.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:43:43.000 That ain't you. 1.00

00:43:44.000 That's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government.

00:43:48.000 He came over here to make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to come over to the Middle East. 0.99

00:43:54.000 I know a lot of guys who do comedy in the Middle East and they give you a list of shit you can't talk about. 0.85

00:43:58.000 I did it in 08. I went with a bunch of comedians. 0.96

00:44:02.000 That scares me. 1.00

00:44:03.000 A list of shit you can't talk about? 1.00

00:44:05.000 Like, what if I slip up? 1.00

00:44:06.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 What if there's a moment in the crowd where someone yells something out?

00:44:11.000 And I think it would be funny to say something.

00:44:13.000 And whoopsies.

00:44:15.000 Yeah, there's a lot of editing.

00:44:16.000 Now you're in jail.

00:44:17.000 Yeah.

00:44:18.000 Yeah.

00:44:19.000 Who had a problem with that?

00:44:21.000 Who was it?

00:44:22.000 Someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig and almost got arrested.

00:44:28.000 It was Eddie Ift.

00:44:30.000 Yeah, the only thing that saved him, I believe the story was, I believe it's Eddie, I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious.

00:44:38.000 They didn't have a problem with what he said at all.

00:44:41.000 I think he called someone sir when you're not supposed to call him sir.

00:44:44.000 You're supposed to call him your highness or your excellency.

00:44:47.000 And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir.

00:44:51.000 And then they were trying to arrest him afterwards.

00:44:53.000 Jeez.

00:44:55.000 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 Yo.

00:44:57.000 Like, sir's not good enough?

00:44:59.000 That's not even, like, I thought it was something.

00:45:01.000 No, it wasn't even anything.

00:45:02.000 That's why I'm nervous.

00:45:04.000 Like, that's not even, I mean, that's not even anything crazy.

00:45:07.000 That's nothing.

00:45:08.000 But your brand of humor, did you take that and did you ever do corporates and that wasn't your style?

00:45:16.000 No, no, no, no.

00:45:19.000 Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate, after they do them, they go, why did I do that?

00:45:23.000 Ron White just did one. 0.99

00:45:25.000 He goes, this is the worst fucking experience of my life. 0.99

00:45:27.000 But they offered me a shitload of money, and I said yes. 0.98

00:45:30.000 I kept saying no, but they kept coming up with higher numbers. 0.99

00:45:33.000 And eventually I said yes, and it was fucking terrible. 0.97

00:45:36.000 Tony Hanscliffe just did one. 0.99

00:45:37.000 He said it was fucking terrible. 1.00

00:45:38.000 They're always terrible. 1.00

00:45:39.000 You like them?

00:45:40.000 Joe, I gotta be honest.

00:45:42.000 You like them?

00:45:43.000 I don't mind the corporate.

00:45:44.000 Really?

00:45:44.000 I really don't mind a corporate...

00:45:45.000 Yeah, you've had those awful corporate gigs where, you know...

00:45:48.000 What percentage of...

00:45:50.000 I just ran into Sandler. 1.00

00:45:51.000 He told me he ate dick at a corporate gig. 1.00

00:45:53.000 Yeah, I mean... 1.00

00:45:54.000 Adam Sandler.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, they're not...

00:45:55.000 They paid to see Adam Sandler.

00:45:57.000 They knew Adam Sandler was going to be there, and it still sucked. 0.59

00:46:00.000 It's the environment sometimes.

00:46:01.000 It's like you're walking into whatever.

00:46:04.000 They just had their...

00:46:06.000 Breakout meeting, and then they're coming, and then, oh, it's comedy.

00:46:09.000 But it's just a different vibe.

00:46:11.000 They're all scamming about their careers. 0.99

00:46:13.000 They're all networking and fucking making their little backstabbing moves. 0.99

00:46:18.000 But you call them out on that. 0.98

00:46:20.000 You kind of do material about what they're going through during the three-day sales meeting at the Venetian.

00:46:27.000 Right.

00:46:27.000 You know, so you kind of relate to, I actually, I don't mind them as much as other, you know, comedians are like corporate.

00:46:35.000 I actually don't mind them.

00:46:37.000 Jay Leno loves them.

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:39.000 I mean, that's where he's made the majority of his money.

00:46:42.000 You know Jay Leno, all those fucking cars he has, never spent a dime of his Tonight Show money. 0.99

00:46:47.000 I know. 1.00

00:46:47.000 Never spent a dime. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Puts it all in the bank.

00:46:49.000 It's amazing.

00:46:50.000 All that money, all those cars, it's all him doing gigs.

00:46:54.000 Well, here, you didn't grow up with money, right?

00:46:57.000 So, now you're super successful, you got this money.

00:47:01.000 Was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to look at money in a way where you're like, okay, I have a good grasp on this.

00:47:12.000 Yeah, I mean, a money manager, what have you, but I'm just talking about your relationship with money.

00:47:16.000 Is it like...

00:47:18.000 Yeah, we're here.

00:47:19.000 Live it up.

00:47:20.000 Spend it.

00:47:21.000 Or is it more like, do you ever think this is not going to be the most popular podcast ever?

00:47:28.000 Or do you even think that way?

00:47:30.000 I don't think that way.

00:47:31.000 I never thought it would be popular in the first place. 0.97

00:47:34.000 When I first started doing it, there was just me and Brian Redband in my fucking living room. 0.96

00:47:38.000 Like, and then comedians. 0.97

00:47:40.000 Joey Diaz come over.

00:47:41.000 Eddie Bravo comes over.

00:47:42.000 Ari comes over. 1.00

00:47:43.000 We're just having fun. 1.00

00:47:44.000 Just talking shit. 1.00

00:47:46.000 I never imagined. 1.00

00:47:47.000 I didn't plan for it.

00:47:49.000 Like, when everybody has those vision boards, like, this is how you become successful.

00:47:52.000 You have to manifest it.

00:47:54.000 I didn't manifest this at all.

00:47:56.000 Zero.

00:47:57.000 The most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot.

00:47:59.000 And I've put zero management into it.

00:48:05.000 All I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing, and it turns out other people enjoy it too.

00:48:10.000 That's it.

00:48:11.000 It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with.

00:48:19.000 Have civil conversations with people where you disagree with things.

00:48:22.000 It's good for you too.

00:48:24.000 All I do is just do what I enjoy doing.

00:48:27.000 If I could do this for free, I would still do it.

00:48:29.000 I enjoy it.

00:48:30.000 So you do this podcast.

00:48:32.000 Yeah.

00:48:32.000 You have no aspirations of this being the hugest thing ever, right?

00:48:36.000 I don't even have any aspirations for growth.

00:48:38.000 I don't say, you know, by this time next year I'd like to have...

00:48:41.000 Nope.

00:48:42.000 You just focus on...

00:48:44.000 What I'm doing.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:45.000 Output.

00:48:46.000 I feel like everything else is a distraction.

00:48:48.000 Like, as long as you're making enough money...

00:48:50.000 You know, Brian Count said something he wants, and I never forgot it.

00:48:54.000 He said...

00:48:55.000 And we were kids.

00:48:56.000 We were in our 20s.

00:48:58.000 He said the only amount of money you need is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost. 0.99

00:49:03.000 Everything else is bullshit. 0.98

00:49:05.000 If you've got enough money, you can go to a restaurant and you don't worry. 0.99

00:49:07.000 Just order a bottle of wine, order meat, order whatever you want to eat.

00:49:11.000 You don't have to think about the price.

00:49:12.000 He goes, that's real freedom. 0.99

00:49:14.000 Because everything else, like all that other shit, that's all just becomes complicated. 0.98

00:49:19.000 You don't need that. 0.98

00:49:21.000 Real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills.

00:49:26.000 I experienced that leap, that jump, when I got a development deal.

00:49:31.000 So I was like, I guess I was 25, 26 maybe?

00:49:34.000 25?

00:49:35.000 I got this development deal from Disney and it was like $150,000 and I couldn't believe it.

00:49:43.000 I had $150,000.

00:49:44.000 This is nuts.

00:49:46.000 And I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders.

00:49:51.000 Because back then I was a...

00:49:52.000 Road comic, you know, you do a gig on Thursday, it's 200 bucks.

00:49:57.000 You do a gig here, it's 150. You know, you're scraping together enough money so that you could pay your bills and eat.

00:50:03.000 And you were always worried about gigs.

00:50:06.000 Always trying to film my book.

00:50:08.000 Always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey.

00:50:12.000 Where do I gotta go to make some money?

00:50:14.000 And it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it, right?

00:50:17.000 Trying to become like I didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian.

00:50:21.000 It could all go away.

00:50:22.000 And so I got that development deal and it was the nuttiest feeling in the world.

00:50:27.000 It was like I felt lighter.

00:50:30.000 Like, it felt lighter.

00:50:31.000 And then I was like, oh, that's the key.

00:50:33.000 Like, get the monkey off your back. 0.95

00:50:35.000 Get the bill monkey off your back. 0.95

00:50:37.000 And that's the real freedom.

00:50:39.000 The real freedom is not being rich.

00:50:40.000 You don't feel any different being really rich other than the stuff that you can do.

00:50:45.000 But the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid.

00:50:49.000 That's what you want. 0.99

00:50:51.000 All that other shit is like... 0.99

00:50:53.000 The other thing I noticed... 0.99

00:50:54.000 When I moved to California, it was the first time I had a nice apartment, and I'll never forget this either.

00:50:59.000 I was sitting in my apartment, and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood.

00:51:03.000 I had a loft, I had a pool table in my apartment.

00:51:05.000 I was like, this is amazing.

00:51:06.000 How is this real?

00:51:07.000 How is this mine?

00:51:08.000 After a while, it just became my house. 0.97

00:51:12.000 And then I realized, like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. 0.94

00:51:19.000 It's the same feeling. 0.86

00:51:20.000 It's like, oh, this is home.

00:51:22.000 It's the same feeling.

00:51:23.000 It's not better.

00:51:24.000 It's not worth the amount of money that it costs if you're renting a house that's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills.

00:51:33.000 It's not worth that.

00:51:36.000 What's worth it is if it's comfortable.

00:51:38.000 If you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals, you're good.

00:51:43.000 That's what you need.

00:51:44.000 That's all you need.

00:51:45.000 Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money, to get all these other things, leaves you in this constant state of anxiety.

00:51:56.000 I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more.

00:52:03.000 I just concentrate on what I do.

00:52:06.000 That's all I concentrate on.

00:52:08.000 I concentrate on work.

00:52:09.000 I concentrate on comedy.

00:52:11.000 I concentrate on UFC fights.

00:52:12.000 I concentrate on podcasts.

00:52:14.000 And I don't think about those other things.

00:52:16.000 I don't think about the direction of my career at all.

00:52:19.000 Well, that's a great way to look at things.

00:52:22.000 Because the only thing you really have control of is...

00:52:25.000 What you do.

00:52:26.000 What you put out.

00:52:27.000 Yeah.

00:52:28.000 So you being a pioneer in the podcast world, right?

00:52:32.000 You and Mark Maron, I feel like, were kind of...

00:52:35.000 Adam Curry was the first.

00:52:36.000 Adam Curry was the original.

00:52:37.000 The MTV VJ. He's still got a podcast now.

00:52:40.000 He's excellent.

00:52:41.000 He's a good friend of mine.

00:52:42.000 And he's the number one guy.

00:52:44.000 He's the podfather.

00:52:46.000 Okay, he's the podfather.

00:52:47.000 He named it.

00:52:48.000 They started it off together.

00:52:49.000 Yeah, they started doing it years before I ever did it.

00:52:52.000 And yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine.

00:52:56.000 Adam Carolla was the first, because Adam did it off of radio.

00:53:00.000 So Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern's slots when Howard Stern went over to Sirius.

00:53:06.000 Remember that?

00:53:06.000 So he had this morning show.

00:53:09.000 And that morning show was doing real well until...

00:53:12.000 Do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA? Before podcast, it was like Tom Likas was on there, and it was a bunch of good shows.

00:53:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:20.000 And that also made me think about doing podcasts, too.

00:53:24.000 I mean, I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing, but I was like, this is a talk radio station now.

00:53:30.000 Talk radio got so big, mostly because of Howard, I think, but there was a whole station that Where you could listen to the station.

00:53:39.000 It was all talk radio all day long.

00:53:41.000 There was a science guy on there late night.

00:53:44.000 I forgot what the hell his name was.

00:53:46.000 But yeah, you're right.

00:53:47.000 There was like a station that had all these kind of cool talk formats.

00:53:53.000 And what I'm saying is, for me, I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting.

00:53:58.000 But for me, I just remember you as being one of the first guys to do this.

00:54:03.000 Yeah, we were one of the first.

00:54:04.000 Okay, so now you're here.

00:54:07.000 When you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now, do you go, wow, this is amazing that all these people are doing it?

00:54:17.000 Could anybody do this?

00:54:19.000 It feels like everybody has a podcast.

00:54:21.000 I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting.

00:54:26.000 Do you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go, wow, look at the growth?

00:54:32.000 It's definitely a lot better.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, it's his skill.

00:54:37.000 You learn it.

00:54:38.000 It makes you a better conversationalist in the real world, for sure.

00:54:41.000 It makes you more considerate.

00:54:43.000 It's like comedy, right?

00:54:44.000 It's like you weren't the podcaster you were.

00:54:47.000 How long have you been doing this?

00:54:49.000 Podcasting 15 years?

00:54:50.000 15 years.

00:54:51.000 Somewhere around there?

00:54:52.000 Closing it on 15 years?

00:54:53.000 Yeah, so it took 15 years to get it to...

00:54:55.000 I mean, obviously you've been successful for longer than...

00:54:59.000 But yeah, it took a long-ass time.

00:55:01.000 It took a long-ass time.

00:55:02.000 And I think nowadays it's just there's an amount of time you've got to put into something in order for it to be a gem.

00:55:12.000 Yes.

00:55:13.000 But, you know, even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it, has entertainment changed?

00:55:22.000 Where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house.

00:55:27.000 There's a guy I've been watching this insane...

00:55:29.000 His name is... 0.85

00:55:30.000 He's catching eggs in his mouth, right?

00:55:33.000 Do you see this guy?

00:55:34.000 Insane...

00:55:37.000 I forget the name of his...

00:55:38.000 Insane Shane.

00:55:41.000 Catches eggs from how far away?

00:55:43.000 50 yards!

00:55:44.000 They're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth.

00:55:46.000 He's got the best mouth on the internet, right?

00:55:48.000 Does he break the eggs or does he catch them and not have them break?

00:55:50.000 No, they're like hardboiled.

00:55:53.000 Or a meatball.

00:55:54.000 Oh.

00:55:54.000 This guy's chucking meatballs.

00:55:56.000 And he's catching them in his mouth?

00:55:58.000 50 yards!

00:55:59.000 That's a skill.

00:56:00.000 So I'm watching it and I can't...

00:56:02.000 Yeah, this is...

00:56:03.000 Okay, the marshmallow combine.

00:56:12.000 He's not catching all of them.

00:56:14.000 No, he's catching them.

00:56:15.000 Oh, he's catching them and then spitting them out.

00:56:17.000 Oh my god, that's insane.

00:56:19.000 One of these guys threw at 50. Who throws a marshmallow at 50 yards?

00:56:22.000 Yeah, I think they're like ex-football players or the guys that are throwing.

00:56:27.000 This guy's doing routes, catching marshmallows in his mouth.

00:56:32.000 This is crazy.

00:56:33.000 People are trying to block him.

00:56:35.000 That's crazy.

00:56:35.000 He's catching the marshmallows.

00:56:37.000 That's amazing.

00:56:39.000 That's a skill.

00:56:40.000 So, I'm watching this now.

00:56:43.000 This is entertainment now.

00:56:45.000 Okay, he's got a million followers.

00:56:47.000 InsaneShane1.

00:56:48.000 S-H-A-Y. He's diving off speedboats, catching them in his mouth.

00:56:53.000 I mean, look at this guy.

00:56:55.000 Who would have ever thought that that would be a thing?

00:56:57.000 Oh, he dives into a ball.

00:56:59.000 This is a real football.

00:57:02.000 So, has entertainment, in your eyes, changed where it's changing, where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show?

00:57:14.000 Well, it's definitely consuming a lot of your time.

00:57:17.000 I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if you look at my screen time on my phone, on an average day, it'll be more than four hours.

00:57:23.000 And how much of that is doom-scrolling?

00:57:26.000 A lot.

00:57:27.000 A lot.

00:57:27.000 So that's entertainment.

00:57:29.000 So would I have been watching television during that time?

00:57:31.000 No, probably not, because you could take your entertainment with you now, which is even more distracting.

00:57:36.000 Yeah, but you're not watching...

00:57:37.000 You said you did an hour of Instagram.

00:57:39.000 Yeah.

00:57:39.000 You're not watching, like, a movie or a documentary.

00:57:43.000 Sometimes I am.

00:57:44.000 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 I spend a lot of time doing that, too.

00:57:47.000 But I do that in certain places.

00:57:49.000 Like, I'll watch a documentary on an airplane, or I'll watch something at home.

00:57:55.000 Right.

00:57:55.000 But I generally don't take my phone, and I'm walking around the house watching documentaries, right?

00:58:03.000 Right, you'd sit down.

00:58:04.000 You'd sit down and enjoy that.

00:58:06.000 Yeah.

00:58:06.000 But this is something that I would probably, if I was on my phone from the kitchen to the bedroom, I'm watching a guy catch marshmallows.

00:58:15.000 My question to you is, if the internet or social media wasn't around, do you think that guy would be around?

00:58:22.000 No, you wouldn't be doing that.

00:58:24.000 But do you think this was existing 30 years ago, where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching them just for fun, and we didn't see it?

00:58:32.000 There was probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it, and everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, I'm sure. 0.95

00:58:39.000 But it just never would have been the discipline that it is now, where this guy's got fucking guys blocking them, and he's juking left and right, and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. 0.97

00:58:50.000 I mean, it's pretty impressive stuff. 0.88

00:58:51.000 So do you think that social media and internet spawns this type of stuff?

00:58:56.000 100%.

00:58:57.000 100%.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:58:58.000 And it is a new form.

00:58:59.000 That's another thing you could say about podcasting, too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music, right?

00:59:13.000 Most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course.

00:59:16.000 But now, the podcast thing is, like, you could pause it at any time, you could start it at any time.

00:59:21.000 So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two-hour road trip, now you're occupied. 0.98

00:59:27.000 Now the road trip's easy because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit and Joey Diaz is telling stories and it's great. 0.96

00:59:36.000 I mean so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available it wasn't being utilized before and So what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen or sit there and watch I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in you listen to a podcast or while you're driving or Or you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored. 0.98

01:00:03.000 You get to listen to some interesting shit. 0.99

01:00:05.000 And I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane. 0.99

01:00:10.000 It was hilarious.

01:00:11.000 You guys were killing me.

01:00:12.000 Like, that kind of stuff is...

01:00:13.000 Or, hey, there's this guy with that power plant.

01:00:16.000 Egyptian pyramid guy.

01:00:17.000 You believe that?

01:00:18.000 What do you think about that?

01:00:19.000 I was in the gym.

01:00:19.000 It was kind of freaking me out.

01:00:21.000 So it gives you this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before that's not completely useless, right?

01:00:29.000 Like scrolling for stuff and the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth, I'm not getting anything out of that.

01:00:34.000 It's fun.

01:00:35.000 It's interesting.

01:00:35.000 It's kind of useless.

01:00:37.000 But podcasts are not.

01:00:39.000 You do get to sit in on interesting conversations.

01:00:42.000 You get to consider ideas that maybe you never Do you listen to podcasts?

01:00:54.000 Are you going to them for comedy or more informational podcasts?

01:01:00.000 What's your forte?

01:01:02.000 I listen to a lot of different podcasts.

01:01:04.000 I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts.

01:01:07.000 I listen to history podcasts.

01:01:09.000 I listen to podcasts about science.

01:01:11.000 I listen to podcasts about pretty much everything.

01:01:14.000 Hunting podcasts, which are very valuable.

01:01:18.000 Hunting, it seems easy.

01:01:21.000 The idea seems easy to people.

01:01:23.000 It's not.

01:01:23.000 It's really hard.

01:01:24.000 And there's a lot of things that people learn along the way in their journey of hunting, and they'll explain it to you.

01:01:31.000 And so if you encounter that, I'll say, oh, Remy Warren said, when you do this, be careful of that.

01:01:37.000 Now that's in my head.

01:01:39.000 So it's a way that you can accumulate information.

01:01:43.000 Yeah.

01:01:44.000 No, I listen to this Huberman.

01:01:47.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:01:49.000 And half of the stuff goes over my head.

01:01:51.000 He's hard.

01:01:52.000 Even when I do podcasts with him, I have to make notes.

01:01:55.000 I make notes, then I ask him afterwards.

01:01:58.000 But he's very fact-based, and he's a great guy, too.

01:02:02.000 I have to ask you this, talking about Huberman, and you've interviewed him.

01:02:06.000 Do you ever have somebody come on the show where you're nervous to have them?

01:02:10.000 Like, oh, man, this is...

01:02:12.000 Oh, yeah, definitely.

01:02:13.000 Like, who are you nervous to interview?

01:02:16.000 Roger Penrose, the Nobel Prize winner.

01:02:18.000 He's just a brilliant mind, and older, you know?

01:02:23.000 So I'm like, how is this conversation going to go?

01:02:25.000 How do I engage him?

01:02:27.000 I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here, so I want to be prepared and have good questions.

01:02:33.000 I don't know how much of an experience those guys have on podcasts or how much of an experience they have at all with comedians. 0.98

01:02:39.000 I don't want to fuck around too much. 0.97

01:02:41.000 I just want to get the most out of him that I can get. 0.99

01:02:44.000 I just want to try to massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are.

01:02:55.000 And also, I'm very fascinated by his research.

01:02:59.000 It's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person.

01:03:04.000 He's done a lot of research in the Big Bang.

01:03:07.000 He's got a very interesting thought about the Big Bang, that he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.

01:03:12.000 And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now.

01:03:16.000 It's very fascinating stuff.

01:03:18.000 The idea that the universe is eternal, or much older than we think it is.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:03:23.000 I mean, you've got to be a chameleon.

01:03:25.000 You've got so many different people coming in here, right?

01:03:27.000 From comedy to doctors to what have you.

01:03:31.000 And you've got to adjust.

01:03:33.000 You do have to adjust, yeah.

01:03:34.000 To every different personality.

01:03:35.000 It's just an art form.

01:03:37.000 But it makes you more flexible as a person, too.

01:03:38.000 You can have conversations with all kinds of people.

01:03:41.000 Absolutely.

01:03:42.000 It's better.

01:03:43.000 I like it.

01:03:44.000 It's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast.

01:03:48.000 In 2009, I was very closed-minded.

01:03:50.000 I just was doing it just for fun.

01:03:52.000 I mean, I was open-minded generally, but not like I am now.

01:03:55.000 I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought.

01:03:58.000 What my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways instead of considering them from a broader perspective.

01:04:05.000 But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times when even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this?

01:04:17.000 So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration Like, okay, but someone could think of it this way.

01:04:28.000 Do you think of it this way ever?

01:04:29.000 Have you ever tried to think of it this way?

01:04:30.000 And just, like, see, you know, how their brain works.

01:04:35.000 Everybody's brain is, you know, they're different.

01:04:37.000 You know, you have children.

01:04:39.000 And one of the things you find out when you have children is, bro, right out of the box, they're different people.

01:04:43.000 They are different people.

01:04:45.000 It's fascinating.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 Because, you know, you meet a kid and he's four.

01:04:48.000 You're like, look at that smart kid.

01:04:50.000 What an interesting kid.

01:04:51.000 But you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and going, this is all from the same father.

01:04:59.000 This is nuts.

01:05:00.000 They're totally different things.

01:05:02.000 They have different personalities, different likes, different strengths.

01:05:07.000 It's really interesting.

01:05:09.000 Yeah, it's crazy to see.

01:05:10.000 I mean, my daughter and my son, the differences between them.

01:05:13.000 And you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own and you actually see it going, wow, this one's outgoing, this one's shy, this one likes piano, this one likes t-ball.

01:05:26.000 So it's like...

01:05:28.000 Even me and my sister.

01:05:29.000 You have brothers and sisters?

01:05:31.000 Yeah, sister. 0.76

01:05:31.000 I mean, my sister and I, although very similar, also very different. 0.76

01:05:36.000 And it's really crazy as a parent to...

01:05:41.000 And also, you want to...

01:05:43.000 You want to give them structure.

01:05:46.000 You want to give them kind of the best things you grew up with from your parents and then put those – give them to your kids as well.

01:05:55.000 But you also want to see them flourish in their own personality.

01:05:57.000 So the parenting thing is – I take it extremely serious.

01:06:02.000 I want to be there for my kids.

01:06:06.000 I don't want to work so much where even coming to Austin, Texas for podcasts or going to Dallas for a show, it's like...

01:06:19.000 Yeah, you have to think about that.

01:06:21.000 I would be like, book it.

01:06:24.000 Just get it.

01:06:24.000 Just book it.

01:06:25.000 And now it's more like, hey, are we coming to this run?

01:06:31.000 Are you guys going to come to New York?

01:06:33.000 That helps a lot.

01:06:34.000 That helps me a lot.

01:06:35.000 If I could take my family with me.

01:06:37.000 You know, I take them with me a lot of times on Vegas UFC trips, too.

01:06:41.000 It's nice.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, it's nice, especially now that the kids are getting older that they could travel more.

01:06:45.000 Also, Vegas is a fun place to do stuff.

01:06:47.000 You know, there's other stuff we could do before the fights.

01:06:50.000 I don't know if you've ever done escape rooms.

01:06:53.000 You ever do escape rooms?

01:06:56.000 No?

01:06:57.000 Escape rooms are fun, man.

01:06:59.000 They're fun.

01:07:02.000 I'm claustrophobic.

01:07:04.000 And this just happened to me recently.

01:07:07.000 Don't get in that tank, then.

01:07:08.000 Don't get in that sensory deprivation tank.

01:07:11.000 I don't know if I could do that.

01:07:11.000 It happened to me on an airplane.

01:07:13.000 Oh, no.

01:07:14.000 Sitting at the window seat.

01:07:16.000 It just overcame me.

01:07:18.000 I said, I gotta get out of here.

01:07:20.000 Oh, no.

01:07:20.000 And ever since then, I have to have an aisle seat if I go to a theater and watch a show.

01:07:26.000 I can't be confined...

01:07:28.000 This came out of nowhere?

01:07:30.000 Out of nowhere.

01:07:31.000 On an airplane.

01:07:32.000 Wow.

01:07:34.000 And I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight attendants and stand the rest of the time.

01:07:40.000 Wow.

01:07:41.000 Did you tell them what was going on?

01:07:42.000 Yeah, I said, listen.

01:07:43.000 I'm freaking out.

01:07:44.000 Just so you know.

01:07:47.000 I'm crawling out of my skin.

01:07:49.000 I'm sitting next to two people.

01:07:50.000 I feel like I'm trapped.

01:07:51.000 I can't get out.

01:07:52.000 So I'm very anxious now.

01:07:54.000 If I get on an airplane, and here's one.

01:07:59.000 Get on an airplane.

01:08:01.000 I hate to do this, but there's a family, and the father's like, do you mind changing seats so my daughter could sit next to me?

01:08:11.000 I said, well, where's the seat?

01:08:13.000 And he's like, it's the window seat.

01:08:15.000 And I go, hey.

01:08:17.000 I can't go over there because I'm claustrophobic.

01:08:20.000 And, of course, he was looking at me like I was making it up because I would've.

01:08:23.000 Right. 1.00

01:08:24.000 I mean, if somebody told me that, this fucking asshole won't let me sit with my daughter. 1.00

01:08:28.000 Right. 1.00

01:08:29.000 But it's so bad where I just can't sit at the window.

01:08:32.000 Well, he could always ask somebody else.

01:08:34.000 He could just ask someone else.

01:08:36.000 Yeah, but...

01:08:37.000 But you were by yourself.

01:08:38.000 I feel like I let him down.

01:08:41.000 Yeah, I'm sure you did.

01:08:42.000 I'm never that guy.

01:08:43.000 I'm always very cooperative, whatever we need.

01:08:46.000 Yeah, me too.

01:08:46.000 I always move seats.

01:08:47.000 I'm always worried about other people freaking out.

01:08:49.000 There was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was going to take the plane down.

01:08:53.000 This guy stood up in the middle.

01:08:55.000 You see that guy, Jamie?

01:08:56.000 I've seen a few of them.

01:08:56.000 There's a few lately.

01:08:58.000 That's what I always worry about.

01:08:59.000 I worry about someone freaking out.

01:09:01.000 I worry about another person that you're going to have to deal with.

01:09:05.000 I feel though if somebody's freaking out.

01:09:07.000 I think he stabbed people.

01:09:08.000 Didn't he stab someone?

01:09:09.000 He had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple of people.

01:09:14.000 Yeah, he was saying that he was going to take everybody out.

01:09:17.000 Oh, God.

01:09:19.000 I feel if you're on an airplane and that's happening, you would be one of these guys that would handle it, right?

01:09:28.000 Yeah.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, the problem with handling it is you're probably going to get sued and you might even get arrested.

01:09:35.000 It depends on how much damage you do.

01:09:38.000 You could permanently damage someone.

01:09:42.000 People are very flippant about beating people up, but you could easily permanently damage someone.

01:09:48.000 Believe me, I believe you can.

01:09:49.000 I'm just saying you have that instinct.

01:09:53.000 What's the problem where I have more of an instinct of, is there a Joe Rogan on the plane?

01:09:58.000 No.

01:10:00.000 I was on a plane once and a lady asked me if I would help her because these two guys were fighting.

01:10:05.000 One guy got in first and he put his briefcase above this other guy's seat and then he sat down.

01:10:12.000 And the guy who was right behind him goes, no, no, no, that's my spot.

01:10:16.000 That's my seat.

01:10:17.000 That spot over here.

01:10:18.000 He goes, no, it's not.

01:10:19.000 It's first come, first serve.

01:10:20.000 Put it somewhere else.

01:10:21.000 It was open.

01:10:21.000 I put it in there.

01:10:22.000 And he goes, no, that belongs to my seat.

01:10:25.000 And then they started getting like...

01:10:27.000 Belligerent with each other.

01:10:28.000 It started getting to the point where, oh my god, are these kids going to fight in first class? 1.00

01:10:32.000 And so then this fucking lady, who is the flight attendant, she came in and told them both she was going to have them removed from the plane, sit down, shut up. 1.00

01:10:42.000 And then she came to me and she goes, if anything goes down, you're gonna help me, right? 0.99

01:10:48.000 I was like, what do you want me to do?

01:10:51.000 Because if I'm gonna help you, it's gonna get real messy.

01:10:56.000 Are you gonna say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy?

01:11:00.000 Like, you know, I'm not gonna, like, I'm not gonna play nice.

01:11:04.000 If you're on a plane and you've got to take someone out, you have a very short amount of movement, it's gotta be very violent.

01:11:09.000 You gotta debilitate them.

01:11:11.000 You gotta, like, take them apart right there.

01:11:15.000 You can't, like, hope that you can hold on to them and then they relax.

01:11:20.000 Then what, you go back to your seat?

01:11:21.000 They're not gonna...

01:11:22.000 You gotta put them out.

01:11:24.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 You gotta...

01:11:26.000 You gotta risk.

01:11:28.000 You gotta risk.

01:11:30.000 As you're talking to me, I feel like you're going through a bunch of different moves of what you could possibly do.

01:11:35.000 It's gotta be violent.

01:11:37.000 If you got a guy like that with a knife, you're not grabbing that guy.

01:11:41.000 You're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and holding him down. 1.00

01:11:45.000 You're gonna beat his fucking brains in. 1.00

01:11:48.000 You're gonna stop his body from moving. 1.00

01:11:51.000 Because otherwise it's dangerous. 0.99

01:11:53.000 You're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational, possibly schizophrenic, who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy. 1.00

01:12:03.000 He could kill everybody. 1.00

01:12:05.000 Pastor stabs fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight. 0.94

01:12:11.000 Okay, so what's going on?

01:12:13.000 He fashioned a handmade weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the aisle.

01:12:21.000 Yeah.

01:12:22.000 Flying.

01:12:23.000 Flying used to be...

01:12:25.000 Look at his pen.

01:12:26.000 So he developed, made a weapon out of his pens?

01:12:28.000 He tied all his pens together and held onto them?

01:12:32.000 Wow. 0.99

01:12:33.000 He said, I planned on attacking and killing him, the defendant stated. 1.00

01:12:37.000 Jesus Christ. 0.97

01:12:40.000 Defendant felt the mafia had been chasing him the last few months.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, so you go. 0.99

01:12:44.000 So he's schizophrenic, and you know, they don't have fucking scans for that when they bring him in. 0.98

01:12:50.000 During the interview, the defendant admitted to the FBI agents that he was trying to stab CR in the eye to reach CR's brain to kill him. 0.99

01:12:58.000 Okay.

01:12:59.000 And said he was protecting his seven-year-old son, so that's awesome.

01:13:01.000 The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack because she was shielding the couple's seven-year-old son.

01:13:05.000 Jesus Christ.

01:13:06.000 Christ, man. 0.94

01:13:07.000 So this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him.

01:13:13.000 What's going on on airplanes?

01:13:15.000 Why is there all this violence now on airplanes?

01:13:19.000 First of all, there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing.

01:13:25.000 So people are more belligerent towards authority.

01:13:28.000 So you have that.

01:13:29.000 And then you have the general heightened level of anxiety of the population post-COVID went up substantially.

01:13:39.000 COVID fucked a lot of people's lives up.

01:13:42.000 We got lucky. 0.86

01:13:43.000 We were very fortunate.

01:13:44.000 We make money.

01:13:45.000 We were able to make money during the pandemic.

01:13:47.000 We had enough money to be okay.

01:13:48.000 A lot of people, that's not the case.

01:13:50.000 So, so many people lost their businesses.

01:13:52.000 So many people lost their livelihoods.

01:13:54.000 So many people have a deep distrust for the government and the world now.

01:13:59.000 And then there's this thing where people are being coddled for being mentally ill, where you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about.

01:14:10.000 It makes you interesting.

01:14:11.000 So I think people encourage mental illness. 1.00

01:14:13.000 They encourage breakdowns, and they do it all the time in the real world, and so they think they could do it on fucking planes. 1.00

01:14:19.000 And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their fucking minds who really shouldn't be out there in the world. 0.99

01:14:25.000 And, you know, they think the mafia is after them and they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16A. You know, the whole thing's nuts. 1.00

01:14:32.000 And it's just like, I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before.

01:14:38.000 And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media. 0.99

01:14:40.000 You're being fed every day the worst shit that's happening in the world. 1.00

01:14:46.000 Gaza, Ukraine, you know, the fucking ocean's boiling. 1.00

01:14:50.000 Oh my god, what is happening? 0.99

01:14:52.000 Putin's doing this and Xi Jinping is in control of that and the fucking borders open. 1.00

01:14:58.000 Ah, fentanyl! 1.00

01:15:00.000 Ah!

01:15:01.000 You know, it's just like everyone's on edge. 0.99

01:15:03.000 So you get all those people, you stick them in a fucking tube, and then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really, there's no authority figure on that plane. 0.99

01:15:12.000 There's these women, these poor women, or men, or whoever they are, there's flight attendants, that have to fucking deal with these people. 1.00

01:15:19.000 And most of them are just regular people. 0.97

01:15:21.000 They're not, I mean, they do have those guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally.

01:15:28.000 What do they call those guys?

01:15:30.000 Yeah, what do they call them?

01:15:32.000 Air Marshals.

01:15:33.000 I think they stopped doing that.

01:15:34.000 They stopped doing that?

01:15:34.000 Oh, great.

01:15:35.000 Of course they did.

01:15:36.000 All the security, right?

01:15:38.000 To go to the airport.

01:15:39.000 All the security to get on the plane.

01:15:41.000 Once you're on the plane, no security.

01:15:43.000 They got security guys walking around Whole Foods making sure you don't steal an apple.

01:15:47.000 Yet you're 35,000 feet up and what?

01:15:51.000 The flight attendant's going to subdue a guy with pens? 1.00

01:15:56.000 Exactly.

01:15:56.000 And who's going to get hurt along the way?

01:15:58.000 What if he did stab that guy in the eye?

01:16:00.000 You know, like Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:16:02.000 You know, even Mike Tyson got in a fucking fight on a plane. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Some guy kept fucking with him. 1.00

01:16:06.000 He turned around and beat the shit out of the guy. 0.99

01:16:08.000 And now Mike's getting sued. 0.96

01:16:09.000 I saw that.

01:16:11.000 Yeah.

01:16:12.000 That guy should go to...

01:16:13.000 They should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible.

01:16:16.000 You gotta live here now.

01:16:17.000 What's your take on this Tyson thing?

01:16:22.000 I go back and forth.

01:16:24.000 I don't generally like the idea of 58-year-old men fighting.

01:16:29.000 It seems crazy risky at this point in your life.

01:16:33.000 You're definitely going to be slower.

01:16:34.000 You're definitely going to be...

01:16:35.000 Your reflex is going to be slower.

01:16:38.000 You can't take shots as much.

01:16:39.000 But I don't think that a 50-year-old man today or a 58-year-old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 58-year-old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement.

01:16:50.000 So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike Tyson doing everything.

01:16:55.000 He's doing all kinds of things.

01:16:57.000 He's not a regular 57-year-old guy.

01:17:00.000 And then you see him hit the paths, and you go, Jesus Christ, man.

01:17:04.000 I mean, this is a terrifying human being. 0.99

01:17:10.000 I mean, he's still fucking terrifying. 1.00

01:17:14.000 Hitting the bag, hitting the pads. 0.99

01:17:16.000 He still has the ability to deliver those punches. 1.00

01:17:18.000 And if any one of those hits anybody, they're fucked. 1.00

01:17:22.000 You're fucked. 1.00

01:17:23.000 It's not like his punches are 30% of what they used to be. 1.00

01:17:28.000 They're like 80% to 90% of what they used to be.

01:17:31.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 Somewhere in that range.

01:17:33.000 It's probably a little slower than he used to be.

01:17:35.000 He used to be insanely fast.

01:17:37.000 There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19 year old and he's throwing these combinations like and he's 210 pounds 215 pounds throwing combinations like Sugar Ray Leonard like it's it's insane to watch he was so fast and And that was a big factor in his success.

01:17:57.000 He does not have that kind of speed anymore.

01:18:00.000 But he's still fast.

01:18:02.000 He's not slow.

01:18:03.000 But, Joe, I mean, we're watching a 58-year-old man. 0.97

01:18:06.000 Crazy!

01:18:06.000 Now, 30, 40 years ago, I was watching the We Are the World documentary, and I'm looking at the people.

01:18:14.000 Kenny Rogers is in that.

01:18:15.000 And I'm going, I'm probably...

01:18:17.000 60 years old here, right?

01:18:19.000 And I look, he's 47. 47 years old in the We Are The World.

01:18:23.000 So the aging process has, I mean, there's no way 58 years.

01:18:30.000 Yeah.

01:18:31.000 This guy's 47. That's crazy.

01:18:33.000 Younger than I am.

01:18:34.000 That's crazy.

01:18:35.000 He looks...

01:18:36.000 He looks like my...

01:18:38.000 He's 10 years younger than me in that video.

01:18:41.000 Yeah.

01:18:42.000 Yeah.

01:18:43.000 So...

01:18:45.000 Yeah, the 58-year-old man now.

01:18:47.000 Look at that young-ass Billy Joel.

01:18:49.000 Tina Turner.

01:18:52.000 Willie Nelson looked young. 0.99

01:18:53.000 Damn. 0.99

01:18:54.000 How old's Willie Nelson there? 0.99

01:18:55.000 He's 100 in this video.

01:18:56.000 No.

01:18:59.000 How old is he?

01:19:00.000 He's 90 now.

01:19:01.000 I know how old he is.

01:19:01.000 He's in his 90s.

01:19:02.000 52 years old in that video.

01:19:04.000 Is he really?

01:19:04.000 Yeah.

01:19:05.000 It's amazing.

01:19:05.000 Wow.

01:19:06.000 So you're right.

01:19:07.000 58 years old is...

01:19:09.000 It's very different.

01:19:10.000 Different.

01:19:10.000 What was Foreman when he came back?

01:19:12.000 45, when he won the title.

01:19:14.000 45?

01:19:14.000 I think he was 33 or 36 when he was coming back and everybody was mocking him, and then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years old.

01:19:21.000 He's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title.

01:19:23.000 And that was before hormone replacement.

01:19:25.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:19:25.000 I think Tyson is a 45-year-old Foreman, no?

01:19:28.000 Yeah, it's similar.

01:19:29.000 I mean, Foreman wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now.

01:19:33.000 Tyson's still faster.

01:19:34.000 But he's smaller, too.

01:19:36.000 George is a very big man.

01:19:38.000 George has enormous—he has hands that are like the size—his fists are like the size of a cigar box. 0.98

01:19:43.000 They're fucking giant fists, which is a big factor in punching power, you know? 0.98

01:19:49.000 This was George at 45 years old. 0.99

01:19:53.000 Michael Moore, who was a sensational light heavyweight, was kind of undersized as a heavyweight. 1.00

01:20:00.000 As a light heavyweight, he was a fucking assassin. 0.96

01:20:03.000 But George caught him with a one-two and put him out at 45 years in a fight he was losing. 0.99

01:20:09.000 Michael Moore was out boxing him.

01:20:11.000 But here, even at 45, you don't look at him.

01:20:14.000 Boom! 0.99

01:20:16.000 He don't look like no Tyson at 58 though, right?

01:20:18.000 No, no.

01:20:19.000 He was much slower.

01:20:20.000 But George was always kind of slow.

01:20:22.000 He just has thunderous power.

01:20:24.000 He was never like a real fast guy like Ali or any of those other guys. 0.92

01:20:27.000 He was just thunderous, ridiculous power. 0.85

01:20:31.000 George was just terrifying.

01:20:33.000 And I don't know the ins and outs of boxing, but is this Logan Paul, is he a legitimate boxer?

01:20:39.000 A legitimate boxer, yes.

01:20:41.000 People mocked me when I was saying that before, but now I think people are coming around.

01:20:45.000 And the way I look at it, I say, if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube, and you just saw him box, and you saw him knock out former UFC champions,

01:21:00.000 you saw him beat legitimate boxers...

01:21:03.000 Or beat athletes and beat a bunch of MMA fighters. 0.99

01:21:06.000 You'd go, this kid can fucking fight. 0.99

01:21:08.000 He knows how to fight. 0.99

01:21:10.000 Like, it's not...

01:21:11.000 Nothing he's doing looks wrong.

01:21:13.000 He's not, like, sticking his head straight up in the air and winging punches with his eyes closed.

01:21:17.000 He's fighting well.

01:21:18.000 He looks good.

01:21:19.000 And if he was just an up-and-coming boxer...

01:21:22.000 There was this exciting, highly promotable, really good at selling fights.

01:21:29.000 He'd be like, this kid's the future.

01:21:30.000 He's really something special.

01:21:32.000 And the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson, even if Tyson's 57, just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do.

01:21:45.000 Because that's what he's doing. 0.98

01:21:47.000 The gamble is, there's not a fucking chance in hell. 0.98

01:21:51.000 That Jake Paul would survive against the Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier. 0.97

01:21:56.000 You ever watch that fight?

01:21:57.000 Yeah.

01:21:57.000 That's my favorite Mike Tyson fight.

01:21:59.000 Because that was Mike Tyson before he won the title.

01:22:01.000 It was ABC Wide World of Sports. 0.93

01:22:03.000 And Joe Frazier had been talking shit about Tyson, that if he was in his prime, he'd beat Tyson. 0.96

01:22:08.000 And so he had his son fight Tyson. 0.98

01:22:10.000 And it was an execution.

01:22:13.000 It was an execution.

01:22:15.000 Is that the one in Atlantic City where it lasted one round?

01:22:18.000 One round. 0.96

01:22:18.000 Let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch Tyson because it's Tyson in his prime where he was fucking terrifying. 0.96

01:22:27.000 He was so fast and he would do angles and he was bobbing and weaving. 0.71

01:22:31.000 You couldn't hit him and he was just coming at you.

01:22:35.000 And he was young.

01:22:36.000 He was 20 years old at the time.

01:22:38.000 He couldn't be stopped.

01:22:40.000 No one had the solution.

01:22:42.000 And I submit that that Mike Tyson, the Mike Tyson that won the title against Trevor Burbick, the Mike Tyson that beat Larry Holmes, I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time. 0.79

01:22:52.000 I don't think anybody fucks with him.

01:22:55.000 Didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing to Buster Douglas and you know It's I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime Like what what did you what have you ever seen that was better than this and with Mike Tyson?

01:23:10.000 I've never seen anybody better I've never seen any fighter even Ali in his prime even Ali when he was Cassius Clay I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime and I think you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy. 0.66

01:23:27.000 I mean, Marvis looks fucking terrified, and he should be.

01:23:31.000 Because he kind of knows. 0.92

01:23:33.000 I mean, Marvis was a good fighter.

01:23:35.000 Marvis was a good fighter, but this is just a terrifying mismatch.

01:23:40.000 If I was a Vegas odds maker, I would put this at a million to one.

01:23:45.000 I'm like, he has to break his leg.

01:23:48.000 He has to fall down and twist an ankle.

01:23:50.000 Otherwise, Tyson was 20 and Frazier was 25. So do you think this is the last we see of a guy like a Tyson?

01:23:59.000 Is there another Tyson out there?

01:24:01.000 They can always emerge.

01:24:03.000 Combat sports always.

01:24:05.000 So this is the beginning of the fight.

01:24:06.000 Look, he's just moving forward.

01:24:09.000 And Frazier's just trying to bob and weave and find his openings.

01:24:12.000 But Mike never gives you any time, man.

01:24:16.000 He never gives you any time.

01:24:16.000 He's always right in front of you.

01:24:18.000 And he's just measuring you.

01:24:19.000 And it's just a matter of time before he catches you.

01:24:21.000 And here it is.

01:24:22.000 BING! Look at this.

01:24:24.000 Oh wow.

01:24:25.000 Oh wow.

01:24:26.000 Bro, he just puts him away.

01:24:30.000 Just puts him away.

01:24:31.000 It's an execution.

01:24:32.000 It was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance.

01:24:35.000 This Mike Tyson, as fast as he was, as hard as he hits, I maintain he's the greatest.

01:24:41.000 The greatest heavyweight ever.

01:24:43.000 Like that, Mike Tyson, those fights were, you wanted to see executions.

01:24:48.000 You didn't think anybody was going to beat him.

01:24:49.000 Everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring.

01:24:54.000 I don't think we see this again, Joe.

01:24:56.000 You never know.

01:24:57.000 It can happen.

01:24:58.000 Jake Paul's favorite.

01:24:59.000 He's a favorite, yeah.

01:25:00.000 Well, he's 27 years old, and he's a really good boxer.

01:25:04.000 He's a very good boxer.

01:25:05.000 Like, he's a legitimate professional boxer.

01:25:07.000 He fought Tommy Fury, who's also a legitimate professional boxer.

01:25:11.000 A real good one.

01:25:12.000 He's Tyson Fury's younger brother.

01:25:15.000 And he lost a close decision.

01:25:18.000 But it was a good fight.

01:25:19.000 A real good fight against a good fighter.

01:25:21.000 He can fight.

01:25:22.000 Yeah.

01:25:23.000 But if that Mike Tyson from Marvis Frazier fought Jake Paul, Jake Paul's dead.

01:25:27.000 He's dead.

01:25:28.000 He's not going to make it.

01:25:29.000 So you have to say, how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20-year-old guy in the 37 years since then?

01:25:38.000 It'll be 38 by the time they fight.

01:25:41.000 He'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight.

01:25:43.000 Yeah, but that's the best it gets, right?

01:25:45.000 The best it gets.

01:25:46.000 The best it gets.

01:25:47.000 For 37 years, you've got to feel like it's, you know, yeah, he's lost some.

01:25:52.000 He hasn't lost everything.

01:25:53.000 He hasn't lost everything.

01:25:54.000 If you see him hit those pads, he has not lost everything.

01:25:57.000 But he's lost some, but coming from the best, he's now like maybe just...

01:26:03.000 Normal, right?

01:26:04.000 He's still not normal, but he's still like a professional heavyweight boxer.

01:26:08.000 He's still terrifying.

01:26:10.000 No, I'm not saying he's not, but I'm just saying even coming off the best, I still think he wins.

01:26:18.000 Coming off...

01:26:19.000 It's hard to say because you never bet against a 27-year-old fighting a 58-year-old.

01:26:25.000 No, I get it.

01:26:26.000 What I have in my brain and I can't get out is that.

01:26:30.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:26:30.000 It's also his mind.

01:26:33.000 Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war.

01:26:36.000 He was doing this interview, and someone said to him, he goes, you look like you're in your 20s.

01:26:42.000 What are you doing?

01:26:43.000 He goes, I just eat raw meat.

01:26:45.000 I ain't eating raw meat.

01:26:47.000 He goes, you're eating raw meat?

01:26:48.000 He goes, yeah, I'm eating raw meat.

01:26:49.000 He goes, because that's what I'm gonna eat when I fight.

01:26:53.000 I'm gonna eat him.

01:26:54.000 It's raw meat.

01:26:56.000 I was like, Jesus Christ! 1.00

01:26:58.000 He's in this fucking mode! 1.00

01:27:00.000 He's in that God of War mode. 1.00

01:27:03.000 He's still got that in him, and I'm telling you, if you keep giving that guy hormones, and you keep giving that guy supplements, and he's constantly training, here's this.

01:27:10.000 Look at this.

01:27:11.000 What are you eating?

01:27:12.000 Raw meat.

01:27:13.000 Seriously, Mike.

01:27:14.000 You're eating raw meat?

01:27:15.000 Are you swallowing it?

01:27:16.000 Remember?

01:27:17.000 You used to spit that stuff out.

01:27:18.000 I'm going to have to eat it now because my opponent's going to be raw meat.

01:27:21.000 That's right.

01:27:25.000 Now, I saw the beginning of this interview where he had a shirt on, right?

01:27:29.000 Yeah.

01:27:30.000 And he was sweating so much he had to take the shirt off.

01:27:32.000 He took his shirt off and they just put the microphone on his shoulder.

01:27:36.000 Yeah.

01:27:37.000 Bro, he's in savage mode right now.

01:27:39.000 He's in savage mode. 0.99

01:27:40.000 If I was Jake Paul right now, I would be shitting my pants. 0.98

01:27:43.000 Oh, bro. 1.00

01:27:44.000 If I'm fighting this guy and he's eating raw meat, I call the fucking thing off. 0.99

01:27:48.000 It's all the experiences that he has had as a conqueror. 0.99

01:27:53.000 You have to take those into consideration.

01:27:56.000 When a man has smashed men before, just smashed men, like when no one can stand in front of him, that is in his mind still.

01:28:05.000 That's in there.

01:28:06.000 There's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up.

01:28:10.000 And I think he's got it open.

01:28:12.000 The question is, can his body move along with it?

01:28:15.000 But that part of his mind, you're clearly seeing.

01:28:18.000 He's terrifying when he's in the zone.

01:28:20.000 I changed the shape of the table because of him.

01:28:24.000 This table, we had the table that was this size at the old studio, and at the new studio, I was like, maybe we'll make the table smaller, it'll be more intimate, it'll be closer to the guest.

01:28:36.000 So we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds.

01:28:40.000 And he was just eating and having fun and smoking weed.

01:28:44.000 He goes, I don't even work out.

01:28:46.000 He goes, if I work out, it'll excite myself.

01:28:48.000 It'll excite my ego.

01:28:49.000 And then I don't like that person.

01:28:51.000 So he just decided that he was just going to be chill Mike Tyson.

01:28:54.000 And then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr. So he gets in insane shape.

01:28:59.000 And the next time I see him, the second podcast we do, Mike now weighs 230 pounds and he's got these muscles in his forearms.

01:29:08.000 So he's sitting there and he's a different human.

01:29:11.000 He's so intense that I was like, if this table was closer to him, I would be nervous.

01:29:16.000 Like I wouldn't be able to do my best job As a podcaster, the reason why this table is this width is the second podcast I did with Mike Tyson.

01:29:27.000 Even Jamie.

01:29:28.000 When Mike left, Jamie's like, that's a different person.

01:29:32.000 That's a totally different person, right?

01:29:33.000 I was nervous the whole time.

01:29:35.000 I was so glad I was close to the door.

01:29:38.000 Hoping he went for you first.

01:29:40.000 He was so intense.

01:29:41.000 He was so intense.

01:29:42.000 And that was a fight with Roy Jones Jr. Where he just decided, you know, to have one more Legends fight.

01:29:50.000 And he got, like, look at him.

01:29:52.000 Dude, he's just... 0.70

01:29:52.000 What the hell? 0.70

01:29:54.000 What do you mean? 0.98

01:29:54.000 You're getting excited. 0.98

01:29:56.000 Seriously, Mike.

01:29:57.000 Oh, you got both things playing at the same time.

01:29:59.000 Hold on a second.

01:30:02.000 You had animosity towards...

01:30:04.000 So when you could finally get your hands on him.

01:30:07.000 Hey, um...

01:30:10.000 What does it mean when fighting gets you erect?

01:30:14.000 What does that mean?

01:30:15.000 It's a good question.

01:30:16.000 Gee! 0.97

01:30:17.000 Means you're getting excited.

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.000 So that's going through your mind right now?

01:30:23.000 Well, that's how I get when I was a kid.

01:30:26.000 Sometimes I get the twinkle.

01:30:28.000 The twinkle?

01:30:29.000 Yeah.

01:30:30.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:30:31.000 It's like you reached a state as a human being, as a champion, as a ferocious fighter.

01:30:36.000 You reached a state of ability and of accomplishment that very few humans will...

01:30:42.000 I don't know if you can hear him breathing.

01:30:43.000 He's breathing.

01:30:44.000 It's like a lion.

01:30:46.000 When you're running, when you're hitting a bag, when that heart's beating again.

01:30:49.000 Because I'm firing him up right now. 0.99

01:30:51.000 You're Mike motherfucking Tyson. 0.99

01:30:53.000 So when you're doing all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson. 1.00

01:30:55.000 Those thoughts have got to be burning inside you again. 0.99

01:30:58.000 It's got to be pretty wild.

01:31:01.000 I don't know.

01:31:02.000 It's, um...

01:31:04.000 It's wild, but I believe it's rightfully so to be that way.

01:31:09.000 And I just know how to, I don't think I'm massive, but I just know how to deal with it.

01:31:14.000 I don't let it overwhelm me.

01:31:17.000 No.

01:31:18.000 Well, of course not.

01:31:19.000 It was a strange conversation to have because he was so focused and so intense.

01:31:24.000 It was almost hard pulling conversation out of him.

01:31:28.000 At any time, did you feel afraid?

01:31:31.000 I'm always afraid when I'm around that guy.

01:31:33.000 Kevin Hart said it best.

01:31:34.000 He goes, it's like being in a room with a lion.

01:31:38.000 Jamie Foxx's old joke is someone that a pit bull let loose in the room and they don't know whose it is.

01:31:46.000 And then Jamie's got to play him in a movie, which has got to be terrifying.

01:31:51.000 Like, don't piss that guy off.

01:31:52.000 I never talk like that.

01:31:54.000 Oh, sorry.

01:31:55.000 Sorry, sir.

01:31:56.000 I'm curious.

01:31:58.000 I'm going to watch the fight.

01:31:59.000 We're all going to watch the fight.

01:32:00.000 I'm going to watch it.

01:32:01.000 I mean, it's a brilliant move by Jake.

01:32:03.000 Because, like, if he was going to fight anybody else, people would watch.

01:32:07.000 But would the same amount of people watch?

01:32:09.000 No.

01:32:09.000 This is the one.

01:32:10.000 And this is the one where the old heads are all sitting around like going, ah, wait till he gets a hold of Mike Tyson.

01:32:16.000 Boy, he's going to regret that.

01:32:18.000 And all the old guys are like pulling for him like, come on, Mike, come on. 0.93

01:32:22.000 One more.

01:32:23.000 You got one more in you.

01:32:25.000 Well, I think we see a different Mike Tyson than we did when he fought Roy Jones, right?

01:32:30.000 I think the Roy Jones fight, they made an agreement not to punch in the head.

01:32:33.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:32:34.000 Because I watched that fight carefully, many times.

01:32:37.000 And it never looked like he was targeting Roy's head.

01:32:41.000 Which makes sense why Roy agreed to do the fight.

01:32:44.000 You know, I think they probably made an agreement.

01:32:46.000 It would be like a real boxing match, but just don't knock me out.

01:32:50.000 Because Roy's a smaller person, much smaller.

01:32:53.000 Roy was at his very best when he was 168 pounds.

01:32:57.000 And then when he was weighing 175 pounds, he didn't even have to cut weight.

01:33:02.000 Roy famously played a basketball game, a full basketball game, the day of his fight.

01:33:11.000 Played a basketball game!

01:33:12.000 And then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds.

01:33:16.000 You know, that's how good Roy was in his prime.

01:33:19.000 But Roy was 168 pounds in his prime.

01:33:22.000 He wasn't Mike Tyson size. 0.99

01:33:25.000 Mike Tyson's fucking enormous. 0.99

01:33:26.000 He's just a different mass. 1.00

01:33:28.000 He's the width, the density.

01:33:30.000 It's terrifying.

01:33:31.000 And if...

01:33:32.000 They're older guys.

01:33:33.000 I could imagine them making an agreement.

01:33:35.000 Because if you watch the highlights, Mike never punches them in the face.

01:33:38.000 And even if they do punch each other in the face, it seems like it's just jabs and small punches.

01:33:43.000 Almost like sparring shots.

01:33:45.000 It's not like anybody's really winding up.

01:33:49.000 Really throwing everything at it.

01:33:52.000 This fight doesn't have that stipulation?

01:33:55.000 No, I do not believe that's the case.

01:33:57.000 I think this fight is gonna be a real full-bore, 100% fight.

01:34:01.000 It's not even an exhibition.

01:34:02.000 It counts on their professional record, so it's a professional fight.

01:34:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:34:06.000 Yeah.

01:34:06.000 Is it eight rounds?

01:34:08.000 I think it's eight two-minute rounds.

01:34:09.000 Yeah.

01:34:10.000 They made it two-minute rounds because Tyson's old.

01:34:12.000 And they were going to do 16-ounce gloves with it down to 14, I believe.

01:34:17.000 Is that the case?

01:34:18.000 I think they're 14-ounce gloves, which is not much bigger than a regular glove.

01:34:23.000 You know, a regular glove is 10 ounces in the heavyweight division, 6 ounces in lighter divisions.

01:34:29.000 I think they use 8 in some divisions, too.

01:34:32.000 But most, like, big guys use 10-ounce gloves.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, it's just, it's, again, talk about the change of entertainment, even in the boxing world.

01:34:43.000 We interviewed Dana White on our podcast, and he's got, I'm sure you're aware of the slapping thing, right?

01:34:49.000 Yeah.

01:34:50.000 Now, is that just, if I slapped you right now, is that different than taking a punch?

01:35:03.000 Not at all. 0.67

01:35:04.000 No, it's terrible for you.

01:35:07.000 Yeah, they're basically agreeing to brain damage. 0.96

01:35:10.000 They're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head. 0.99

01:35:13.000 Because you have to get slapped. 0.99

01:35:15.000 You have to stand there and get slapped. 0.99

01:35:16.000 And the only thing that could save you is if your slap is so good and you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do to decide who slaps who first, you slap that guy unconscious and then it's over. 0.99

01:35:26.000 And it happens. 0.95

01:35:27.000 Guys get slapped unconsciously.

01:35:29.000 I mean, you're literally taking a full-on blow to the face.

01:35:33.000 Your hand can hit pretty hard.

01:35:35.000 If you just think of that.

01:35:38.000 Try doing that with your knuckles.

01:35:39.000 It's hard to do.

01:35:40.000 It hurts.

01:35:41.000 It doesn't hurt at all when you do that.

01:35:43.000 You can slam. 0.99

01:35:44.000 So you could really fucking slap someone. 0.99

01:35:48.000 You know, guys have knocked guys out slapping them many times. 0.99

01:35:51.000 It's not hard to knock. 0.58

01:35:52.000 You could KO someone.

01:35:54.000 Bas Rutten was one of the all-time greats in MMA, and he started his fighting in an organization called Pancrase.

01:36:02.000 And Pancrase in Japan, this is the early days, as the UFC was just emerging.

01:36:08.000 They started doing fights with no gloves on, but they said instead of punching, you could only slap.

01:36:14.000 So with Bas Rutten, he's got very flexible wrists, so he would pull his hands way back like this, and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands. 0.96

01:36:25.000 So he wasn't throwing them like you would think like a bitch slap. 0.90

01:36:27.000 He was throwing punches with his palms. 0.99

01:36:30.000 He was uppercutting guys and knocking them unconscious with his palms.

01:36:34.000 Jesus.

01:36:35.000 So that is what you're agreeing to when you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting a guy whop you in the head.

01:36:40.000 You're agreeing to getting...

01:36:42.000 You could easily get KO'd. 1.00

01:36:44.000 Easily get your jaw broken. 0.98

01:36:46.000 Easily get your eye socket shattered.

01:36:49.000 Are these ex...

01:36:50.000 This is boss.

01:36:53.000 See how he dropped that guy with that palm strike?

01:36:56.000 But the way he throws it, it's like a punch. 1.00

01:36:59.000 Boss was a fucking animal. 1.00

01:37:01.000 He was an animal. 1.00

01:37:02.000 Like, terrifying human being. 0.91

01:37:04.000 Great guy.

01:37:05.000 But man, in his prime, he was just destroying people.

01:37:08.000 He was one of the first high-level strikers that made his way into mixed martial arts.

01:37:14.000 And he eventually became the UFC heavyweight champion.

01:37:18.000 What was he?

01:37:19.000 A jiu-jitsu guy?

01:37:20.000 Kickboxer.

01:37:21.000 From Holland.

01:37:22.000 The motherland.

01:37:23.000 Of kickboxing?

01:37:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:25.000 Some of the all-time greats came out of Holland.

01:37:27.000 Yeah.

01:37:28.000 For whatever strange reason.

01:37:30.000 It was a background of Kyokushin and a lot of them got into kickboxing and Muay Thai.

01:37:37.000 And there was a guy named Ramon Deckers.

01:37:38.000 He's like, to this day, one of the most legendary Muay Thai fighters of all time. 0.70

01:37:42.000 This dude who came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just fucked everybody up. 0.99

01:37:47.000 You ever heard of Ramon Deckers?

01:37:49.000 Show Ramon Deckers highlight reel.

01:37:51.000 He was like a mini kickboxing Mike Tyson.

01:37:54.000 Yeah.

01:37:55.000 He was a monster.

01:37:56.000 Because a lot of the guys that went over the tie line, they were bigger than the ties. 0.98

01:38:00.000 But Ramon Deckers was the same size as the ties, but he was just fucking ferocious. 1.00

01:38:07.000 Look at this motherfucker. 0.99

01:38:10.000 Bro, he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused. 1.00

01:38:17.000 And his doctor was like, you have to stop fighting or, you know, you're going to lose your foot.

01:38:23.000 And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. 0.96

01:38:25.000 Just fucking bolt this thing down so I can get back at it again. 0.98

01:38:29.000 I mean, his highlight reel is just fucking terrifying. 0.99

01:38:33.000 It's just him mauling people. 0.99

01:38:35.000 But these kicks, right?

01:38:37.000 I mean, doesn't it hurt the kicker as much as it does?

01:38:42.000 No, not as much, but it definitely hurts.

01:38:44.000 I mean, especially if you hit the instep on like an elbow or something like that.

01:38:48.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 But shins, shins are pretty good at tolerating pain. 1.00

01:38:53.000 Joe, come on.

01:38:54.000 I mean, I hit my shin on my bed frame.

01:38:59.000 I'm down.

01:39:00.000 Yeah?

01:39:01.000 Yeah.

01:39:01.000 That's just...

01:39:02.000 Well, you get conditioned. 1.00

01:39:03.000 You know, you get conditioned to the point where you can bang your shit against things. 0.99

01:39:08.000 It doesn't even hurt. 0.99

01:39:08.000 Don't these guys train on trees? 0.99

01:39:10.000 Yeah, they train on banana trees.

01:39:12.000 Come on, man.

01:39:13.000 In Thailand, they'll do the kick banana trees.

01:39:16.000 But banana trees are pretty soft.

01:39:17.000 You can kick a banana tree.

01:39:18.000 And they give out.

01:39:19.000 They give a little bit when you hit them.

01:39:22.000 It's not like a regular tree.

01:39:24.000 I've never seen a banana tree.

01:39:26.000 Have you been around?

01:39:26.000 I've been around a banana tree in Thailand.

01:39:29.000 I kicked one just to see what it was like.

01:39:30.000 Because I've seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, it's not the worst thing to kick.

01:39:36.000 It gives a little bit.

01:39:37.000 So there it is.

01:39:38.000 See?

01:39:38.000 Because it gives.

01:39:39.000 See how it gives when he's kicking it?

01:39:41.000 It's flexible.

01:39:42.000 Like you could actually train on a banana tree.

01:39:44.000 It's not a bad thing to train on.

01:39:46.000 Let's go right in half. 0.98

01:39:48.000 Yeah, see?

01:39:49.000 It moves.

01:39:50.000 It's really not that much different than a heavy bag.

01:39:52.000 It just looks crazy because you're like, oh my god, he's kicking a tree.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:39:55.000 But there's heavy bags.

01:39:57.000 Like, we have a heavy bag out there in the gym that's...

01:39:58.000 My friend Kevin Ross gave it to me, and it's filled with sand.

01:40:02.000 And that's just to condition your shins. 0.83

01:40:04.000 That one's horrible. 0.98

01:40:05.000 That one you kick, it's like...

01:40:07.000 What are they normally?

01:40:08.000 Usually it's cushioning, like there's foam, and then it depends on what the stuffing is.

01:40:13.000 Sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that.

01:40:16.000 And the whole idea is it's really packed down tight and it's heavy, so it's like 130, 150 pounds.

01:40:22.000 And it's long and you can do leg kicks on it.

01:40:25.000 But the sand one is just hard as a rock.

01:40:28.000 It's just thud, thud.

01:40:30.000 And you do that just to condition your shins. 0.64

01:40:32.000 That's the one you practice on, just to condition yourself.

01:40:36.000 Yeah, I wish I could do some of this stuff with the...

01:40:39.000 I've always wanted to get into a fighting, just for self-defense, right?

01:40:43.000 But I have detached my biceps, so I have holes.

01:40:51.000 Oh, no.

01:40:51.000 In my arm.

01:40:53.000 I have no bicep.

01:40:55.000 Well, I have a bicep, but just the short one is gone.

01:40:59.000 How did it detach?

01:41:01.000 Woke up.

01:41:02.000 What?

01:41:04.000 Really?

01:41:05.000 Yeah.

01:41:05.000 Nothing happened?

01:41:06.000 There's no trauma that I could pinpoint that this happened.

01:41:12.000 Now, I have kids.

01:41:13.000 I was putting them in the car.

01:41:15.000 And you felt something?

01:41:16.000 No, I didn't feel nothing.

01:41:17.000 Really?

01:41:18.000 I was looking in the mirror one day, and I brought my wife over and I go, is there a hole in my arm?

01:41:26.000 It's nuts!

01:41:28.000 Now, I'll show you.

01:41:28.000 Let me see.

01:41:32.000 Oh, wow!

01:41:34.000 I've seen guys have that before.

01:41:37.000 My friend Matt Serra has that.

01:41:38.000 He has like, his bicep, when he makes a bicep, like half of it is missing.

01:41:42.000 Okay.

01:41:43.000 It's like it curled up on one side.

01:41:45.000 Matt Serra's a fighter?

01:41:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:47.000 I'm a comedian.

01:41:48.000 And I got a hole in my arm.

01:41:50.000 That is odd.

01:41:51.000 But you have most of your bicep.

01:41:52.000 Yeah, but that's, and on this side too.

01:41:55.000 Same side?

01:41:56.000 That one, did you go to a doctor?

01:41:58.000 Yeah, he says there's nothing you can do about it.

01:42:02.000 But he said it's detached?

01:42:04.000 It's gone.

01:42:04.000 And you don't know why?

01:42:06.000 Don't know why.

01:42:06.000 Weird.

01:42:07.000 So then I'm thinking, do I got some weird Mediterranean-type disease where, like... 1.00

01:42:12.000 Shit starts detaching? 0.99

01:42:13.000 People from... 0.99

01:42:14.000 My dad's got it.

01:42:15.000 Really?

01:42:16.000 But he put a luggage in an overhead compartment, and that's what his...

01:42:21.000 His bigger bicep is living in his elbow now.

01:42:23.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:42:25.000 And...

01:42:25.000 You can get that fixed if you do it right away.

01:42:28.000 Right away.

01:42:28.000 I didn't catch it right away.

01:42:30.000 Well, it seems like with you, there was no trauma, which doesn't even make any sense.

01:42:33.000 No sense.

01:42:34.000 Everybody that I know that's done that, like, it's usually boxing or jujitsu or lifting weights or something like that. 0.98

01:42:39.000 It's painful as fuck instantly. 0.94

01:42:42.000 There's a video of a guy doing curls, and as he's doing curls, his bicep snaps and curls up, and you see, like, ah! 0.98

01:42:50.000 It's horrible.

01:42:51.000 And I've heard the same thing.

01:42:53.000 It's painful.

01:42:54.000 But I have no pain, no nothing.

01:42:57.000 Well, it doesn't seem like it affects your range of motion either.

01:42:59.000 So you can do everything.

01:43:01.000 There's no problem.

01:43:02.000 But now I'm thinking, can I even work out the bicep?

01:43:06.000 Because I'm afraid that one's going to snap.

01:43:08.000 No, you should.

01:43:09.000 Because if you don't, the bicep is not going to be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:43:16.000 You're fine.

01:43:17.000 You're fine.

01:43:18.000 Yeah, you could do everything.

01:43:20.000 You just got to get strong.

01:43:22.000 Let's just strengthen all the surrounding tissue.

01:43:24.000 You're fine.

01:43:28.000 What's the odds of a guy who doesn't really do any strenuous, no tennis, no nothing like that, to lose both of his biceps by 50, and now I got it in my head that everything's going to fall apart.

01:43:44.000 Everything's going to snap.

01:43:44.000 Yeah, but you haven't lost your biceps.

01:43:47.000 Your biceps are there.

01:43:48.000 It's like whatever that other thing is that attaches, that's not there anymore.

01:43:51.000 But I don't think you need that.

01:43:54.000 I think you're fine.

01:43:54.000 I wouldn't worry about it.

01:43:56.000 Legitimately, I wouldn't worry about it.

01:43:57.000 I would just start working out.

01:43:58.000 I would just get really into strengthening everything around it.

01:44:04.000 That's right.

01:44:04.000 Especially since you can't fix it.

01:44:06.000 Can't fix it.

01:44:07.000 But Matt does everything.

01:44:08.000 I mean, Matt has a black belt in jujitsu and his biceps way worse than yours.

01:44:12.000 His is pulled all the way up to the top.

01:44:15.000 So like at the bottom, like when you make a muscle like this part, he doesn't have this part.

01:44:19.000 Yeah.

01:44:20.000 It's just flat.

01:44:21.000 Yeah, it's my dad.

01:44:21.000 And there's like a little bit up here.

01:44:22.000 I've seen a bunch of people who have that.

01:44:24.000 Okay.

01:44:25.000 That's a common thing.

01:44:26.000 Yeah.

01:44:27.000 I'm just shocked that it happened so early in life.

01:44:31.000 It doesn't make sense that it didn't hurt at all.

01:44:33.000 That seems weird.

01:44:35.000 Strange.

01:44:35.000 But you seem like you have full range of motion.

01:44:37.000 Yeah, no, I'm golfing.

01:44:39.000 I'm active.

01:44:41.000 But I used to love biceps.

01:44:44.000 I'm Italian.

01:44:44.000 They're still there.

01:44:46.000 Listen.

01:44:49.000 Alone in a mirror with the shirt off.

01:44:52.000 You don't like it?

01:44:53.000 No.

01:44:54.000 Looks weird?

01:44:54.000 You used to love doing biceps like that.

01:44:56.000 Oh, you used to love to stare at yourself?

01:44:57.000 Yeah, doing biceps?

01:45:00.000 That was my favorite exercise.

01:45:03.000 That's funny.

01:45:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:45:05.000 I literally never do that.

01:45:08.000 I never do biceps.

01:45:09.000 Ever.

01:45:10.000 Well, growing up, that's what we always used to do.

01:45:12.000 Right.

01:45:12.000 20s, 30s, 40s.

01:45:14.000 What are you doing today?

01:45:15.000 Bice! 1.00

01:45:16.000 Right.

01:45:17.000 Curls for the girls.

01:45:18.000 Curls for the girls, man.

01:45:19.000 Right.

01:45:19.000 And now I got holes in my arm.

01:45:21.000 I don't think it'll affect you.

01:45:22.000 I bet you can still do bicep curls no problem at all. 0.99

01:45:25.000 I bet your biceps will grow.

01:45:26.000 I don't think it's a problem.

01:45:28.000 I don't think it's a problem.

01:45:29.000 Okay.

01:45:30.000 I don't know what happened.

01:45:31.000 I don't understand it.

01:45:32.000 It seems weird.

01:45:33.000 And maybe I feel like it happened when you were way younger.

01:45:35.000 You just didn't notice it.

01:45:36.000 Maybe as you got older, your body changed.

01:45:38.000 No.

01:45:39.000 Nothing?

01:45:39.000 No, it's such a dramatic...

01:45:41.000 I mean, aesthetically, you would have...

01:45:43.000 So you just noticed it one day?

01:45:45.000 One day, doing my hair.

01:45:47.000 Weird.

01:45:48.000 Dropped my arms, looked in the mirror...

01:45:52.000 I thought it was a shadow from the thing.

01:45:55.000 I go, oh, there must be a shadow.

01:45:56.000 But no, it's a...

01:45:57.000 There's a hole.

01:45:58.000 It's a hole.

01:45:58.000 And I didn't catch it in time, and now I'm walking around with no biceps.

01:46:01.000 That's so strange.

01:46:02.000 But you do have biceps.

01:46:03.000 Well, yeah.

01:46:04.000 Missing one of those things.

01:46:05.000 Missing one of the biceps.

01:46:06.000 I don't think it's a big deal.

01:46:07.000 You didn't need it, obviously.

01:46:08.000 Obviously.

01:46:08.000 You weren't using it.

01:46:09.000 Fell apart.

01:46:10.000 Gave up.

01:46:10.000 It's like an appendicitis.

01:46:11.000 Yeah, it's like this guy isn't even fucking interested in this muscle. 0.98

01:46:15.000 It just quit on you. 0.77

01:46:18.000 Do you have a trainer?

01:46:19.000 Yeah.

01:46:20.000 So how often do you work out?

01:46:22.000 I do about three or four days with the trainer, and then I do two days Pilates.

01:46:26.000 Oh, nice.

01:46:27.000 Which has helped my sciatica.

01:46:29.000 So I started three months ago.

01:46:31.000 I have had sciatica two and a half years, affecting everything, including my comedy.

01:46:36.000 Because I'm physical, I like to move.

01:46:39.000 But the pain was relentless.

01:46:42.000 And I'm like, I didn't want to get the surgery.

01:46:45.000 Was it a dysectomy that they're trying to get you to do? 0.98

01:46:48.000 It was spinal.

01:46:49.000 I don't know what exactly because I don't listen and I don't know anything as far as like the research.

01:46:55.000 Right.

01:46:55.000 The guy told me what it was.

01:46:57.000 I'm like, okay, one ear out the other.

01:46:59.000 Right.

01:47:00.000 But stenosis of the spine, that's what was happening and whatnot.

01:47:03.000 So, and some L3, L4, L4. You know what you need to get that'll help you a lot?

01:47:09.000 A lot.

01:47:10.000 There's a thing called the Dex.

01:47:13.000 It's one of those teeter products where you hook your legs to this thing and you lean your body forward.

01:47:21.000 You know those ones you hang by your ankles?

01:47:22.000 Those are good.

01:47:23.000 Those are really good.

01:47:24.000 They're great for a lot of reasons, but this one is my favorite for low back decompression.

01:47:29.000 This thing right here.

01:47:30.000 We have one out there.

01:47:31.000 I'll show it to you.

01:47:32.000 It's called the Dex, D-E-X-2.

01:47:34.000 It's an inversion and core training system.

01:47:38.000 But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported, you know, you could do like back extensions and stuff on it, but I really don't use it for that.

01:47:46.000 Mostly what I use it for is just decompressing.

01:47:48.000 So I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing.

01:47:58.000 And you feel it pop, like I'll lie in it and it goes pop, pop, pop, pop.

01:48:03.000 Oh yeah?

01:48:03.000 Like I'll feel it decompress.

01:48:05.000 It's amazing.

01:48:06.000 I love it.

01:48:07.000 And it also, you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline and it's really good for strengthening those muscles.

01:48:14.000 And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more.

01:48:17.000 I'll do a set of back extensions on it and then I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop and All right, yeah Decompression of the back and spine is very important.

01:48:27.000 That's why yoga is so good because you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight and then everything tight as you get older like you just keep shrinking You know, that's what happens to old people. 1.00

01:48:37.000 They're fucking the space in between their spine goes away And then they get this hunch and then they're immobile.

01:48:42.000 Yeah, you don't want to be immobile. 0.94

01:48:44.000 No, no, and I felt like that this lagree Pilates have definitely changed my life Pilates is amazing.

01:48:50.000 They're very, very good for that.

01:48:51.000 Yoga, very, very, very good for that.

01:48:53.000 Anything where you're using your whole body like that.

01:48:57.000 And for a lot of people, there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to sciatica.

01:49:02.000 There's tightness of the hamstrings.

01:49:04.000 There's tightness of the upper quads that also affects your lower back and compresses everything.

01:49:10.000 When I have back pain, one of the things that I do is I sit on my heels and I lean all the way back.

01:49:16.000 So with my legs bent and it really stretches out my upper legs, my thighs, my quads.

01:49:22.000 And when I do that, I feel it in my lower back.

01:49:25.000 Like I feel my lower back relaxing.

01:49:27.000 Like I feel it stretching out.

01:49:29.000 And then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that.

01:49:32.000 But that's what keeps me from having back pain.

01:49:35.000 Yeah, the importance of stretching, I've found, is...

01:49:37.000 It's huge.

01:49:38.000 It's huge.

01:49:39.000 And everybody's lazy.

01:49:41.000 Nobody wants to stretch.

01:49:43.000 Even me.

01:49:44.000 Even when I get done with a workout, I'm like, I could stretch.

01:49:46.000 I should stretch.

01:49:47.000 But I want to go eat.

01:49:48.000 And sometimes I'll just go eat.

01:49:50.000 But most of the time I stretch.

01:49:51.000 And when I do, I always feel way better.

01:49:53.000 Like, before a big show, I always stretch.

01:49:56.000 Always.

01:49:57.000 In the back?

01:49:57.000 Yeah.

01:49:58.000 I just lay down on the floor and start stretching.

01:50:00.000 And when I do that, everything just feels better.

01:50:03.000 Because the physical tension that you carry in your body, if you can mitigate some of that, you just feel looser.

01:50:09.000 You get out there, you feel loose.

01:50:10.000 It's just age really crept up on me. 1.00

01:50:13.000 It's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:50:14.000 Really crept up on me. 1.00

01:50:15.000 It's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:50:16.000 So I'm doing all I can to kind of combat that. 1.00

01:50:19.000 How old are you now?

01:50:20.000 50. When you see guys that are 50 that don't take care of themselves though, you see the difference?

01:50:26.000 That's scary.

01:50:27.000 That's scary when a guy's never taking care of himself and then he's 50 and you realize you're in a state of total...

01:50:33.000 I could pull your arm apart.

01:50:35.000 I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket. 0.94

01:50:39.000 There's nothing keeping that thing in there.

01:50:41.000 You're made out of Jell-O. Your body doesn't have any need to be strong because it never gets used.

01:50:48.000 So your body just deteriorates into this sunken lump.

01:50:51.000 And now you're in pain all the time.

01:50:53.000 And now you've got problems all the time. 0.98

01:50:55.000 Now you don't even have fucking energy to do things that you want to do. 0.98

01:50:59.000 For me, the whole thing is mitigating mental illness, like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger. 0.99

01:51:06.000 Get that out, clean your mind out, and then make sure you have energy. 0.97

01:51:10.000 The only way you can get things done is if you have fucking energy, especially like writing. 0.97

01:51:15.000 People don't consider writing a physical health thing. 0.99

01:51:17.000 But if you're tired, you're not going to write as good.

01:51:20.000 You're not going to have the enthusiasm.

01:51:22.000 You're not going to have the energy.

01:51:23.000 It's like for everything, you need energy.

01:51:25.000 And there's only one way to get that.

01:51:27.000 You have to have a healthy body.

01:51:28.000 You have to.

01:51:29.000 It's like a part of the job.

01:51:30.000 It should be a part of the job. 0.98

01:51:32.000 I try to tell it to fat comedians. 0.52

01:51:33.000 I'm like, I know you're great.

01:51:34.000 But look, we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s.

01:51:38.000 If Patrice was alive today, he'd have the number one podcast in the world.

01:51:42.000 If Patrice was alive today, he'd be selling out arenas.

01:51:45.000 We lost him because he just didn't take care of himself.

01:51:48.000 That's it.

01:51:49.000 That's the only reason why.

01:51:50.000 No, it's super important, not only for the comedy, but even looking at my kids now.

01:51:55.000 I'm an older father, so I want to do those things with my kids, whether it be skiing.

01:52:00.000 Right, have fun. 0.96

01:52:01.000 They went skiing, well, we went skiing in December, and my wife loves skiing, and of course, I'm at the fucking bottom of the hill waiting for the... 0.97

01:52:11.000 I'm pitching... 0.93

01:52:12.000 You know what I've become?

01:52:14.000 Or was becoming?

01:52:16.000 Say hi to daddy!

01:52:18.000 You know, like, we go to Disneyland.

01:52:20.000 They're on the rides.

01:52:22.000 You don't do the rides? 1.00

01:52:23.000 Oh, fuck no. 1.00

01:52:23.000 I never do the rides. 1.00

01:52:25.000 I throw up in my lap when I do these rides.

01:52:26.000 Really?

01:52:27.000 Yeah.

01:52:27.000 All of them?

01:52:28.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 No Space Mountain?

01:52:30.000 It sounds amazing.

01:52:32.000 It's so fun.

01:52:33.000 I got a weak stomach, Joe.

01:52:35.000 Barely take the takeoff on a flight, let alone drop in...

01:52:40.000 Claustrophobia.

01:52:41.000 Yeah, I'm a mess, bro.

01:52:44.000 Claustrophobia, no biceps, and fear of rollercoasters.

01:52:49.000 Things can be a lot worse.

01:52:50.000 No, I'm fine.

01:52:52.000 I'm fine.

01:52:53.000 I complain for the sake of comedy.

01:52:55.000 I know.

01:52:55.000 I understand.

01:52:56.000 But I'm blessed.

01:52:58.000 Yeah.

01:52:59.000 You're back out here in August.

01:53:00.000 What are you doing in August?

01:53:01.000 I'm doing the Moody Center.

01:53:03.000 Nice.

01:53:04.000 Moody Center.

01:53:05.000 That's a great venue.

01:53:06.000 I've never been there.

01:53:07.000 I heard it's brand new.

01:53:08.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:53:10.000 It's an amazing venue.

01:53:12.000 This is a great town for comedy right now.

01:53:16.000 There's a lot of big-time comedy fans here now.

01:53:19.000 Yeah, well, I mean, your club, which I'm dying to do, and I'm sorry that I didn't get out here to do it, but I definitely want to do the ship.

01:53:27.000 I hear great things about it.

01:53:29.000 Yeah, next time you're in town, come by and hang out with us for a couple of days.

01:53:32.000 We do shows Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays are my shows, and there's shows seven nights a week.

01:53:38.000 Great.

01:53:38.000 Yeah, I want to make it more of a meal next time I come out.

01:53:41.000 Yeah.

01:53:41.000 This is kind of an in and out thing.

01:53:42.000 I want to utilize the...

01:53:44.000 I want to see if I can get in the tank.

01:53:47.000 Yeah?

01:53:47.000 Yeah.

01:53:48.000 You could do it.

01:53:50.000 Maybe...

01:53:50.000 You want to take an edible first?

01:53:51.000 You want to really do it?

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:58.000 No.

01:53:58.000 You know what?

01:53:59.000 Baby steps.

01:54:00.000 I want to do an edible, but I want to, like, I know some people come in here and go, hey, you got an edible?

01:54:05.000 Don't do that.

01:54:06.000 I can't do anything unless I do a test run.

01:54:09.000 Right.

01:54:10.000 At home.

01:54:11.000 Right, right, right.

01:54:12.000 So, whatever you got here, what is this, Rogi?

01:54:14.000 What is this?

01:54:15.000 Oh, these are just nicotine.

01:54:16.000 Oh, that's nicotine.

01:54:17.000 This is nicotine.

01:54:18.000 What's the good, I'm looking to get into maybe an edible every now and then.

01:54:22.000 Well, California's the perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram edibles.

01:54:27.000 Ten milligram.

01:54:28.000 You eat the whole thing.

01:54:29.000 Easy.

01:54:30.000 Try five.

01:54:31.000 Just try five.

01:54:31.000 Eat half of it.

01:54:32.000 And what is it?

01:54:33.000 Is this the type of thing where you're like, oh, hey, this is great, or is this the word?

01:54:39.000 Maybe.

01:54:39.000 Or deep paranoia.

01:54:41.000 Depends on how much you take.

01:54:42.000 I don't need to be paranoid anymore.

01:54:42.000 You might go down the dark, dark, dark, dark, dark.

01:54:45.000 I don't do dark.

01:54:45.000 You might think about these solar flares that are headed our way.

01:54:48.000 Do you hear about these solar flares?

01:54:50.000 There's solar flares that are supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th.

01:54:54.000 To some mass coronal ejections that could play havoc with our communication systems, our satellites.

01:55:01.000 Could you shut down the power grid if one's big enough?

01:55:05.000 You haven't heard about this?

01:55:08.000 I barely heard about this.

01:55:10.000 A friend of mine who's actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this.

01:55:14.000 He said it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact of this.

01:55:21.000 Earth prepares for solar storm impact from three CMEs this weekend. 0.99

01:55:25.000 Solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M10. I don't know what that means.

01:55:35.000 The most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668, as well as the production of numerous M-class solar flares and 2X-class solar flares from what CME is,

01:55:52.000 coronal mass ejection, that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend.

01:55:57.000 Joe, keep this up there.

01:56:00.000 If this was me, and you sent me this article, I said, read this about solar flares, you know, would it turn me off?

01:56:07.000 Right from, just visually.

01:56:08.000 Okay.

01:56:10.000 3664, I see that in a paragraph, I ain't reading it.

01:56:14.000 Just the numbers alone.

01:56:16.000 The regions?

01:56:17.000 Yeah.

01:56:18.000 See, I'm the opposite.

01:56:19.000 Whatever you read just now, didn't even register in my head, couldn't even comprehend it.

01:56:24.000 Did you get any of that?

01:56:25.000 For me, what I got is a deep respect for these people that have not, they're not just watching the sun, but they've made regions of the sun.

01:56:33.000 So they can refer to these specific regions where this solar activity is taking.

01:56:38.000 Tomorrow.

01:56:38.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 That's what I was saying.

01:56:39.000 The 10th and the 11th, that's what my friend was telling me.

01:56:42.000 X2.23B flare?

01:56:44.000 I'm out.

01:56:45.000 He was actually concerned that his wife was going to be out of town while this was happening.

01:56:48.000 He's like, you should have food and you should be prepared.

01:56:51.000 Yeah.

01:56:52.000 Despite this...

01:56:53.000 Go back up.

01:56:54.000 The region continued to produce optical flares, radio bursts, and an isolated M-class.

01:57:00.000 That's one of the craziest things about the sun.

01:57:02.000 The sun is not static.

01:57:04.000 It's like... 0.99

01:57:07.000 It's like, fuck, it's all over the place. 0.99

01:57:10.000 It's got these giant ejections that happen that could cook our satellites. 0.99

01:57:14.000 And in the past, before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today, there was a big mass ejection, I think, that they recorded in the 1800s that took out communications for whatever they had back then.

01:57:30.000 You know, I like the sun, Joe.

01:57:32.000 You like your tan?

01:57:36.000 Are you a beach guy?

01:57:37.000 Do you like going on the beach on vacations?

01:57:38.000 Love the beach.

01:57:39.000 A little margarita?

01:57:40.000 Sit there?

01:57:41.000 A little margarita, a little Mexico beach vibe.

01:57:44.000 Sit down and get my kids build a little sand castle, go in the water.

01:57:48.000 Mexico makes me nervous. 0.75

01:57:49.000 Did you hear about those surfers that just got killed in Mexico?

01:57:51.000 Why do you gotta ruin a job?

01:57:54.000 They found them in a well.

01:57:55.000 Shot in the head in a well.

01:57:56.000 They stole their car and shot them in the head and threw them down a well.

01:58:01.000 I'm at the beach with a margarita, and you're in a well with three gun wounds that I had.

01:58:10.000 Why do you got to ruin the visual for me, Joe?

01:58:12.000 Come on. 0.99

01:58:12.000 I mean, I don't know what happened to these guys, but shit can go sideways. 0.99

01:58:16.000 Yeah, it can go sideways. 0.99

01:58:18.000 It can go sideways.

01:58:19.000 When you're in Mexico. 0.95

01:58:20.000 Mexico served for death. 0.97

01:58:21.000 Man charged.

01:58:22.000 Confessed to girlfriend.

01:58:23.000 Oh, wow. 1.00

01:58:26.000 Kill these two dudes over a car. 1.00

01:58:28.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:58:29.000 Their bodies are found dumped in a cliffside well six days after they disappeared, each with a gunshot to the head.

01:58:35.000 That's terrible. 1.00

01:58:36.000 There's shit that could... 0.99

01:58:37.000 Yeah, there was a fourth body that had been there longer, was unconnected to the case. 1.00

01:58:41.000 All right, there goes the family trip to Mexico.

01:58:44.000 That's their spot.

01:58:46.000 Most of the time people go to Mexico, it's no worries at all.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, no.

01:58:49.000 I went down there once and I was worried, and then I saw Halle Berry there.

01:58:52.000 I'm like, oh, she's here.

01:58:53.000 Now I'm not worried.

01:58:54.000 Yeah.

01:58:55.000 I feel if you see Halle Berry anywhere, it's like, it's okay.

01:58:58.000 She's gonna be fine.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 Joe, I don't know.

01:59:05.000 I don't know.

01:59:06.000 Mexico worries me though.

01:59:08.000 It's just like it's controlled by the cartels.

01:59:10.000 I mean the country is essentially controlled by the illegal drug market.

01:59:15.000 So you would not go to Mexico?

01:59:17.000 I've gone to Mexico.

01:59:18.000 I love Mexico.

01:59:19.000 But it is what it is.

01:59:21.000 Yeah.

01:59:21.000 You know?

01:59:23.000 It's a different kind of sketchy.

01:59:25.000 And they're generally protective of tourists.

01:59:28.000 Generally, yes.

01:59:29.000 They don't want to fuck up that tour. 0.97

01:59:31.000 And then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists. 0.96

01:59:35.000 It could happen on Wilshire Boulevard.

01:59:37.000 It will happen on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles.

01:59:39.000 That's why I don't live in Los Angeles.

01:59:40.000 I know.

01:59:41.000 I mean, it could happen anywhere, really.

01:59:43.000 Anywhere, no. 1.00

01:59:44.000 But Los Angeles is a higher likelihood of shit going sideways. 1.00

01:59:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:47.000 No, I agree. 1.00

01:59:48.000 What's it like?

01:59:49.000 What's it like?

01:59:50.000 You enjoying it?

01:59:51.000 There's been many conversations over dinner.

01:59:54.000 What are we doing here?

01:59:56.000 I'm sure you went through that prior to morning.

01:59:58.000 Well, I know you looked out here for a little bit.

01:59:59.000 I looked out here for a little bit.

02:00:00.000 Now's a good time to look.

02:00:01.000 Now there's a lot of great houses that are available.

02:00:03.000 A lot of money came here.

02:00:05.000 A lot of people came here.

02:00:06.000 A lot of building got done here.

02:00:07.000 I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested.

02:00:11.000 The growth is exponential.

02:00:12.000 Yeah.

02:00:13.000 The quality of life is fantastic.

02:00:15.000 It's much better.

02:00:16.000 Okay.

02:00:17.000 But I got off the airplane.

02:00:19.000 The heat?

02:00:20.000 And I was sweating right out of the gate.

02:00:22.000 Can't take that?

02:00:24.000 I don't know.

02:00:29.000 I don't like heat.

02:00:30.000 I don't like heat.

02:00:32.000 You don't like heat?

02:00:33.000 I don't like humidity.

02:00:35.000 So that is a big, big factor.

02:00:38.000 Of moving anywhere, whether it be Florida, Texas. 0.88

02:00:41.000 Los Angeles gets pretty fucking hot, dude. 0.80

02:00:43.000 It does get hot. 0.98

02:00:43.000 I'm not saying it doesn't. 0.98

02:00:45.000 I'm just saying this is like a different kind of heat for me.

02:00:48.000 It's a wet heat.

02:00:48.000 It's uncomfortable.

02:00:49.000 Yeah, it's better for your skin, though.

02:00:51.000 Maybe.

02:00:52.000 Yeah.

02:00:55.000 And we've often tossed around.

02:00:57.000 Is Los Angeles the place for us?

02:01:00.000 With me, I got a family there.

02:01:02.000 I got my mother there.

02:01:03.000 My sister's there.

02:01:04.000 What about San Diego?

02:01:05.000 Nah.

02:01:06.000 No?

02:01:06.000 Not a big San Diego guy.

02:01:07.000 Really?

02:01:08.000 No.

02:01:08.000 I love it down there.

02:01:09.000 I love Florida.

02:01:10.000 Florida's great, too.

02:01:11.000 Thought about there?

02:01:12.000 I have family in Naples, Florida. 1.00

02:01:14.000 Hot as fuck. 1.00

02:01:15.000 Hot as fuck, though. 1.00

02:01:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:16.000 Hotter than here. 1.00

02:01:18.000 Yeah, I feel like if you go to one of these places that have a hot summer... 1.00

02:01:20.000 People are dumber, too. 0.99

02:01:21.000 They're dumber in Florida? 1.00

02:01:22.000 Yeah, they're dumber. 1.00

02:01:23.000 Generally. 1.00

02:01:23.000 I'll fit right in. 1.00

02:01:24.000 There's some brilliant people in Florida, don't get me wrong.

02:01:26.000 But if you had to do a statewide IQ test, it might be disturbing.

02:01:32.000 Yeah?

02:01:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:35.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:36.000 A lot of people escaped to go to Florida.

02:01:39.000 Florida's a place where people ran from their past.

02:01:43.000 I just feel like if I go to Florida, I'm running from paying an exorbitant amount of money in taxes.

02:01:50.000 That's true, too.

02:01:51.000 And quality of life might be better.

02:01:53.000 It would be better.

02:01:54.000 And that's Texas, too.

02:01:55.000 Texas doesn't have state taxes, either.

02:01:57.000 California has 14%, which is insane.

02:02:00.000 It's insane.

02:02:02.000 It's so high.

02:02:03.000 This morning, I took a beautiful walk along your, what is this, a river you guys got running through the city?

02:02:09.000 Lady Bird Lake.

02:02:10.000 Lady Bird Lake, right?

02:02:11.000 Right about the bats.

02:02:13.000 Yeah.

02:02:13.000 And just people, hello.

02:02:16.000 It's nice.

02:02:17.000 It's a nice vibe out there.

02:02:19.000 I'm not gonna lie.

02:02:21.000 But...

02:02:23.000 I'm rooted over there.

02:02:25.000 Yeah, I was rooted too.

02:02:26.000 Yeah, I know.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, but it's not worth it. 1.00

02:02:28.000 It's not worth it to be rooted in a place that sucks. 0.99

02:02:30.000 I understand. 0.97

02:02:31.000 The conflict, the feeling, like, why am I still here?

02:02:33.000 I don't have any of that here.

02:02:35.000 I had that feeling for a while in L.A., even before the pandemic.

02:02:38.000 I'm like, do I really need to be here?

02:02:40.000 But I just didn't know another way to do it.

02:02:42.000 It was like there was no other way to do everything that I want to do.

02:02:45.000 Podcast, comedy.

02:02:47.000 I'm in L.A. This is like, I guess this is where I live.

02:02:49.000 From the time you started to think about moving to the time you moved, what was that, years-wise?

02:02:57.000 I've been thinking about it for a long time.

02:02:59.000 I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009. But I had been thinking about it for a while, but it didn't seem possible.

02:03:07.000 But then when the pandemic hit, it was like, okay, the whole world is different now.

02:03:11.000 Now you got to move. 0.97

02:03:12.000 Like, you got to get the fuck out of here, because L.A. was going sideways. 0.98

02:03:16.000 And I'm of the opinion that once things start going bad, it takes a long time, especially in a Democrat-controlled state. 0.98

02:03:24.000 It takes a long time for things to turn around.

02:03:26.000 Mm-hmm.

02:03:27.000 If they turn around at all, and everybody has this idea of, oh, this is L.A. L.A.'s like that.

02:03:32.000 I'm like, no, it's not like that anymore.

02:03:34.000 They're burning cop cars in the middle of the street, looting businesses, they're letting people do it, they're smashing grabs, they're just telling you you can't shop after 6 p.m.

02:03:41.000 This is madness. 0.99

02:03:42.000 We gotta get the fuck out of here. 0.98

02:03:44.000 That was my take. 0.97

02:03:45.000 My take was like, this is not the same L.A. anymore.

02:03:48.000 You don't stay in your house while it's on fire, just because like, but it's my house.

02:03:53.000 No, it's on fire.

02:03:54.000 You gotta get out.

02:03:55.000 So that was my take.

02:03:57.000 And the family was on board?

02:03:58.000 Yeah, they loved it.

02:03:59.000 Well, the kids were young enough.

02:04:01.000 My youngest were 10 and 12 when we came here.

02:04:04.000 And we got them to...

02:04:05.000 My real estate agent, she's brilliant.

02:04:08.000 She took us to the lake.

02:04:09.000 And the girls were on a boat.

02:04:12.000 We're all hanging out we were jumping in the water together and swimming and people listening to the fucking leonard skinner and People were singing and drinking and it was like everybody's having fun and there was no masks whereas in la everyone was like Terrified and locked down and so this was in may of 2020 we were only It was only two months into the pandemic and I was already trying to get out And then by august I was already here. 0.98

02:04:35.000 I was like fuck you guys and And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows. 0.98

02:04:42.000 We started doing shows at Stubbs. 1.00

02:04:44.000 And then November, we started doing indoor shows here.

02:04:47.000 Like, Jesus Christ.

02:04:48.000 And then it was crazy.

02:04:50.000 And then the influx.

02:04:51.000 Everybody started moving here.

02:04:52.000 Segura moved here.

02:04:53.000 Tony Hinchcliffe moved here.

02:04:55.000 Bryan Simpson moved here.

02:04:57.000 Derek Poston, Asan Ahmad, they moved here.

02:05:01.000 William Montgomery moved here.

02:05:02.000 Ron White was already here.

02:05:04.000 Duncan Trussell moved here.

02:05:06.000 Tim Dillon moved here.

02:05:07.000 It just started getting crazy.

02:05:09.000 Joe DeRosa just got a spot here.

02:05:11.000 Joey's coming next week.

02:05:13.000 It's been amazing.

02:05:15.000 But all those things had to take place in the exact right order.

02:05:19.000 It's almost like you had to hit every green light on the road.

02:05:23.000 All the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen.

02:05:26.000 To make what actually took place.

02:05:30.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:05:31.000 It is nuts that this place, I mean, I just looked around the city, I mean, the amount of buildings that are going up is crazy.

02:05:38.000 The only thing I do see, do you think the infrastructure of the city can withstand the amount of people here, like the roads and the traffic and They're doing work on that.

02:05:47.000 They're expanding things.

02:05:48.000 There's going to be growing pains for sure.

02:05:50.000 There's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago.

02:05:53.000 But it had always been growing.

02:05:55.000 Yeah.

02:05:55.000 Because I remember, you know, my business, Onnit, was out here.

02:05:59.000 And so we were coming out here for Onnit.

02:06:01.000 And every time I'd come out, like, over the years, I'd notice, like, traffic was picking up more and more before the pandemic.

02:06:07.000 Mm.

02:06:08.000 But then during the pandemic, obviously there was a mass influx of people like, we're getting the fuck out of California. 0.94

02:06:13.000 And that was the biggest factor. 0.97

02:06:17.000 I'm not arguing with you, Joe.

02:06:19.000 It's a great move.

02:06:20.000 I know.

02:06:20.000 You have to decide.

02:06:22.000 Because no place is going to be like, oh my god, this is perfect.

02:06:25.000 Every place is going to come with a thing.

02:06:28.000 But this thing is also way cheaper.

02:06:32.000 It's way cheaper to live here.

02:06:33.000 Yeah.

02:06:34.000 You get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house, and your state taxes are non-existent, which is just way better.

02:06:42.000 That's beautiful.

02:06:42.000 Because, look, if California was perfect, and I had to pay a lot of money, but they kept the streets clean, and there was no crime, and everybody's having a good time, and there's great schools and great social programs, this feels good.

02:06:56.000 Yeah, I'm spending a lot of money in taxes, but man, I live in a fucking utopia. 0.98

02:07:00.000 I love it. 0.96

02:07:01.000 This doesn't feel like that at all.

02:07:02.000 No. 1.00

02:07:03.000 It feels like you're getting fucked by people who tell you they're gonna fuck you, and they have to fuck you, and if you don't want to get fucked, you're a part of the problem. 1.00

02:07:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:09.000 Like, oh. 1.00

02:07:11.000 Okay, I gotta get out of here.

02:07:16.000 I don't feel like that here, though.

02:07:18.000 I don't feel like that here.

02:07:19.000 I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville.

02:07:21.000 I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida. 0.94

02:07:22.000 I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds, and people gravitate towards those parts where people realize, like, hey, there's some real need for law and order. 0.95

02:07:31.000 There's some real need for rules. 0.99

02:07:33.000 There's some real need for, you know, you got to have your fucking ducks in a row. 0.99

02:07:38.000 You can't let psychos take over the school systems and teach nonsense. 0.99

02:07:42.000 There's a good mixture.

02:07:45.000 And I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal city.

02:07:49.000 It's a very, very progressive city that's surrounded by ranchers. 0.99

02:07:54.000 It's surrounded by fucking people in the small towns that are all, you know... 1.00

02:08:00.000 Driving pickup trucks and shooting signs. 1.00

02:08:04.000 It keeps everything balanced.

02:08:06.000 Yeah, it's a nice balance here.

02:08:07.000 Because even the most liberal people here, they're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in L.A. Liberal people in L.A. were cult members, and they felt like if you weren't on their team, you were some kind of a Nazi, and you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

02:08:23.000 You definitely should lose your job.

02:08:27.000 It's a tough place to live, Joe.

02:08:28.000 I'm not going to argue with you.

02:08:32.000 When you come back in August, I'll take you around. 0.99

02:08:34.000 And it'll be a good time to know if you hate it, because it'll be hot as fuck. 0.99

02:08:37.000 I'm going to burn my skin off. 0.99

02:08:39.000 August is going to be sweaty and hot, but it's beautiful.

02:08:43.000 And the food.

02:08:44.000 Ooh, there's so much good food here, Sebastian.

02:08:47.000 There's so much good food.

02:08:49.000 So much good food.

02:08:50.000 No, I'll come back.

02:08:51.000 We'll do a proper Austin run.

02:08:54.000 All right.

02:08:54.000 Do it for a few days.

02:08:55.000 You got anything to tell people about?

02:08:57.000 Got a major tour, July 11th, called the It Ain't Right Tour.

02:09:01.000 A lot of stuff in Los Angeles.

02:09:05.000 It Ain't Right.

02:09:07.000 So that starts July 11th in Norfolk, Virginia.

02:09:10.000 And I'm currently shooting Bookie.

02:09:14.000 Oh yeah, you're on a show, a Chuck Lorre show.

02:09:17.000 Chuck Lorre show on Max, which we're in our second season.

02:09:21.000 We're shooting that.

02:09:22.000 Who's in that with you?

02:09:23.000 Omar Dorsey's in it, Andrea Anders, Vanessa Ferlito.

02:09:29.000 I've heard good things about it.

02:09:30.000 I've heard it's a great show.

02:09:32.000 Really fun show.

02:09:33.000 I want to watch it.

02:09:34.000 So it's on Max?

02:09:35.000 It's on Max.

02:09:35.000 We've got eight episodes on there right now.

02:09:38.000 Nice.

02:09:38.000 And then we're filming...

02:09:39.000 Boy, that guy, Chuck Lorre, that fucking guy's done it all. 1.00

02:09:43.000 Hits, bro. 1.00

02:09:44.000 Hits.

02:09:44.000 Nothing but hits.

02:09:45.000 My family's addicted to the Big Bang Theory right now.

02:09:48.000 So my youngest, my wife and I watched The Big Bang Theory.

02:09:51.000 I've watched like a hundred episodes over the last four months.

02:09:54.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.95

02:09:55.000 Fucking great. 0.97

02:09:55.000 I underestimated that show tremendously because I had seen clips online. 0.97

02:10:00.000 I'm like, this show sucks. 0.94

02:10:01.000 And then you watch it and go, this is a funny show. 0.99

02:10:04.000 It's a really well-made show.

02:10:06.000 Really great writer.

02:10:09.000 This is my first TV series, so to have this guy.

02:10:13.000 Really?

02:10:13.000 Yeah.

02:10:14.000 I did a pilot years ago with Tony Danza playing my dad.

02:10:17.000 Never got off the ground.

02:10:19.000 How is it like meeting Tony Danza?

02:10:21.000 Oh, great.

02:10:21.000 I grew up with Tony.

02:10:23.000 Dad's a taxi, and I was the boss, and he played my dad, and he was really, really good.

02:10:28.000 But that was a network show, and never picked it up.

02:10:31.000 Are they making four-camera, like, multi-camera sitcoms anymore?

02:10:34.000 Yeah.

02:10:34.000 On networks?

02:10:35.000 I don't know about networks, but...

02:10:39.000 Miss Pat.

02:10:39.000 Miss Pat's got one?

02:10:41.000 Yeah, she's got a multi-camera show. 1.00

02:10:42.000 But, I mean, do any network television...

02:10:45.000 Like, what is on, like, network TV on, like, Thursday night now?

02:10:49.000 Oh.

02:10:49.000 Is it all like The Bachelor show?

02:10:52.000 Yeah, I think we're seeing a lot of reality, maybe dating shows.

02:10:56.000 Game shows, reality shows.

02:10:58.000 Big Brother or what have you.

02:11:01.000 It used to be all sitcoms.

02:11:03.000 It used to be all sitcoms.

02:11:04.000 I mean, you know, you were part of that world.

02:11:05.000 Well, that's why I like watching The Big Bang Theory make me say, like, I enjoy sitcoms.

02:11:10.000 It's a great way to consume entertainment.

02:11:13.000 You don't see them anymore.

02:11:14.000 Look at this.

02:11:16.000 Come on.

02:11:20.000 So it was like talk to camera.

02:11:23.000 So I would do a little talk to camera, and then I would pop back into the scene.

02:11:27.000 So the talk to camera for me was like, oh, I could show my comedy a little bit here, and then I'd go back into the scene.

02:11:33.000 But yeah, man.

02:11:36.000 I wonder if sitcoms are going to come back.

02:11:37.000 Maybe.

02:11:37.000 I hope they do.

02:11:38.000 If networks are smart, they'll put together some multicam sitcoms.

02:11:42.000 Because it's still a fun art form.

02:11:44.000 It's still a fun way to consume humor.

02:11:46.000 Yeah, it is.

02:11:47.000 And it'll come back.

02:11:49.000 We'll come back.

02:11:50.000 Maybe.

02:11:51.000 I don't know.

02:11:52.000 I don't know either.

02:11:53.000 We'll see.

02:11:55.000 Maybe.

02:11:55.000 Also, I have a podcast, Pete and Sebastian Show, which we are now...

02:11:59.000 Say hi to Pete for me.

02:12:00.000 I haven't talked to Pete forever.

02:12:01.000 Pete's a good dude.

02:12:03.000 I can't believe that you said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years.

02:12:07.000 Five.

02:12:08.000 Is it really five?

02:12:09.000 2019, I believe, was the last time I was on your show.

02:12:12.000 But I've seen you since then.

02:12:15.000 Seen you, seen you at the store in 2019, I think.

02:12:19.000 Before the pandemic, I think I saw you.

02:12:22.000 Yeah, that was 2019. It was five years ago.

02:12:25.000 Yeah, almost.

02:12:27.000 March will be.

02:12:28.000 I definitely haven't seen you out here.

02:12:29.000 This is my first time out here.

02:12:31.000 But I want to tell you congratulations on all your success, bro.

02:12:34.000 Thank you.

02:12:35.000 Even walking through this place before I came in to know, like, you know, I saw you at the comedy store hanging out in the parking lot, and now you're floating in a tank in your own warehouse.

02:12:46.000 It's unbelievable.

02:12:47.000 Like, congratulations to you, too, because I remember when you first started.

02:12:51.000 I really do.

02:12:51.000 I remember your first struggles at the store.

02:12:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:54.000 And I remember I saw you.

02:12:55.000 I was in Vegas.

02:12:57.000 I was working in Vegas, and I was in my hotel room by myself, flipping through the channels, and I saw your special.

02:13:03.000 And I think it was a Showtime special.

02:13:05.000 And I remember tweeting it. 0.99

02:13:06.000 Like, it was fucking great. 0.98

02:13:07.000 It was great. 0.98

02:13:08.000 No, I think you actually reached out to me and said, hey, man, this is really good stuff.

02:13:11.000 It's funny, Eleanor Kerrigan, I was on a podcast and somebody sent it to me and she's like, oh my god, Sebastian was awful.

02:13:20.000 Awful when he first started.

02:13:22.000 Everybody at the Comedy Store knew it.

02:13:23.000 They're like, how did this guy get passed? 0.99

02:13:25.000 And I'm sitting there listening to this going, fuck, I didn't even, like, I didn't think I was bad. 0.99

02:13:30.000 You know, like... 0.99

02:13:31.000 It's funny, like, what you think you are and what people are saying, I didn't know any of that.

02:13:39.000 Well, the problem was you started out as an open-miker at the comedy store in Los Angeles, which is crazy. 0.84

02:13:48.000 That's like learning how to play football with the Giants.

02:13:52.000 Like, it's nuts.

02:13:54.000 Like, just the idea behind it is nuts.

02:13:56.000 Like, it's a very, very difficult way to break into comedy.

02:13:59.000 And so, everybody's terrible in the beginning. 1.00

02:14:01.000 If they'd seen me six months in, they'd go, oh my god, he fucking sucks. 0.99

02:14:05.000 Like, how did he get passed? 1.00

02:14:06.000 I know, but to hear it, to hear it was like, oh wow, I had no idea. 1.00

02:14:11.000 And not to even know you suck is awful. 0.98

02:14:16.000 Like, I knew I was, like, learning, but I was like, I didn't know people were like, this guy should be pumping gas. 0.99

02:14:24.000 You know what?

02:14:25.000 I don't know if you've ever had this on your podcast.

02:14:28.000 What are you guys, north of what, 2,500 episodes here?

02:14:31.000 Something like that.

02:14:33.000 I drank way too much water, right?

02:14:37.000 Before the podcast?

02:14:38.000 During.

02:14:39.000 Oh, so you gotta pee right now real bad.

02:14:42.000 It's unbelievable.

02:14:43.000 Yeah, I see your face.

02:14:44.000 We can wrap this up.

02:14:45.000 The tour, all that.

02:14:47.000 Where can the people find the information?

02:14:50.000 SebastianLive.com.

02:14:51.000 Get your tickets to the tour.

02:14:53.000 Get your tickets.

02:14:54.000 It's going to be...

02:14:55.000 I can't give anything away, but I'm into a lot.

02:15:01.000 I like production at my shows.

02:15:03.000 Not only the comedy, but the experience.

02:15:07.000 Beautiful.

02:15:07.000 We got some surprises on the tour.

02:15:09.000 Nice.

02:15:09.000 Coming to Austin, Texas.

02:15:12.000 When is that?

02:15:13.000 August 9th.

02:15:14.000 August 9th.

02:15:15.000 If I'm here, I'm there.

02:15:16.000 All right.

02:15:16.000 I would love to see it.

02:15:17.000 Great to see you again.

02:15:18.000 And congratulations to all your success, too.

02:15:20.000 It's been beautiful to watch.

02:15:21.000 Thank you.

02:15:21.000 I'm very, very, very, very, very happy for you.

02:15:24.000 I appreciate you having me on your show.

02:15:26.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:15:26.000 Anytime.

02:15:27.000 Next time, let's not wait four years.

02:15:28.000 No.

02:15:29.000 Come back in August.

02:15:31.000 We'll do it again.

02:15:31.000 All right.

02:15:32.000 Appreciate you, brother.

02:15:33.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 10, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

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