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00:02:54.000But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil, which means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run, where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate and they live off the land in a natural way.
00:06:32.000I feel, though, with a suit, and I've noticed this as I've gained some weight in the midsection, wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have a very kind of...
00:10:32.000Especially recently because you know owning the club and being out late and I was doing two shows a night Which is also a lot was too much I was doing six hours of comedy a week Just doing three nights just doing Tuesday Wednesday Thursday two shows a night, but it was just I was too tired I was burnt out and I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home shows over you know like 1230 or something like that I get home and Hanging out with the guys at the club.
00:10:59.000I get home at like 1.30 and then I start writing.
00:11:02.000And so I write from 1.30 to like 4. And then I have to get up at 10 to work out.
00:11:44.000I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage, and if you could just hold on to that, like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode, your brain is already thinking.
00:11:58.000I record the set and I'll listen to it afterwards, but as far as like creating, I mean, I don't know, I feel like after 10 o'clock the whole body shuts down.
00:12:07.000And I got two small kids, so maybe that's why, you know, they're up early.
00:14:20.000I have like a whole cabinet that's filled with supplements, and I pull them out.
00:14:24.000So when you travel, what do you, carry a suitcase of supplements?
00:14:28.000I have a bag, and in my bag, most of the time when I travel, there's a company called Pure Encapsulations, and they make these packs, like Athletic Pure Pack.
00:17:13.000And if you have a good relationship with your dogs, if your dogs love you and you love them, it's like every day I wake up and I say to my dog, good morning, sir!
00:17:22.000He starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour and he goes around in circles and we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly.
00:19:48.000That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out.
00:19:52.000Like, my family used to live in Pennsylvania, and when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses, fertilizer, it's a fucking terrible smell in the whole town.
00:24:58.000You got the tank, the sauna, the thing.
00:25:03.000I feel like at this age, at 50, all this stuff that you got to do to prepare for the day, by the time you're done with it, you got to go back to bed again, right?
00:26:30.000But just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour, just wasted scrolling.
00:26:35.000Yeah, I mean, there's time, there's mind-numbing things that you do to kind of like, whatever, carry yourself throughout the day.
00:26:40.000I'm just saying, 20 years ago, nobody knew about any of this shit, about sweating and what that does.
00:26:48.000Now with the internet, you could throw up.
00:26:51.000You know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, Right?
00:26:56.000We would just go, oh yeah, no, walk is good for you.
00:26:59.000Next thing you know, now we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this, that, and the other thing.
00:27:07.000I'm just saying with the amount of information out there, sometimes I feel a little bit overwhelmed going, how much do I got to do to get through the day?
00:27:19.000Well, it depends on how you want to feel.
00:27:22.000If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things.
00:27:27.000And I firmly believe this is the reason why I'm so productive.
00:27:31.000And I think if I didn't do the cold plunge and the sauna and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being.
00:28:30.000You can't get a 190 degrees steam shower.
00:28:33.000You'd literally go in there and scald your skin.
00:28:35.000But you can get a 190 degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat.
00:28:41.000And that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins.
00:28:43.000Because your body's reacting to it overheating.
00:28:46.000So it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect.
00:28:50.000And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life.
00:28:54.000I mean, there's a study out of Finland They did a 20-year study that found that using the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at a time, and I think it was 175 degrees, lowers your all-cause mortality by 40%.
00:29:08.000That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything, lowers it by 40%.
00:29:15.000And this is a long-term study of many, many people.
00:29:18.000So, the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam.
00:29:24.000A steam at 120, is that doing anything?
00:29:31.000Getting your body to heat up is good, because it gets your body to react, and it's the same thing.
00:29:36.000It develops those heat shock proteins.
00:29:38.000A really hot bath is very good for you.
00:29:40.000If you can get in a nice hot, especially if you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium, get a really hot bath, very, very good for you.
00:36:35.000Rarely does it go underneath the surface.
00:36:37.000You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood.
00:36:42.000Like live, like actual hardwood, not just lump charcoal, like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks, or slowly like cooking the steaks rather, and then searing them at the end over the coals.
00:36:57.000I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood underneath the grill and then sear the shit out of it.
00:37:54.000So, I've tried multiple times, and, you know, I'm the guy, again, I'm a guy that, I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same thing I did before, right?
00:38:06.000Just hoping magically, oh, it's gonna come out!
00:41:01.000You know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows.
00:41:09.000I wish you were in last night and I wanted to take you to the club.
00:41:13.000Yeah, I wish I would have came to the club.
00:44:30.000Yeah, the only thing that saved him, I believe the story was, I believe it's Eddie, I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious.
00:44:38.000They didn't have a problem with what he said at all.
00:44:41.000I think he called someone sir when you're not supposed to call him sir.
00:44:44.000You're supposed to call him your highness or your excellency.
00:44:47.000And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir.
00:44:51.000And then they were trying to arrest him afterwards.
00:46:50.000All that money, all those cars, it's all him doing gigs.
00:46:54.000Well, here, you didn't grow up with money, right?
00:46:57.000So, now you're super successful, you got this money.
00:47:01.000Was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to look at money in a way where you're like, okay, I have a good grasp on this.
00:47:12.000Yeah, I mean, a money manager, what have you, but I'm just talking about your relationship with money.
00:48:11.000It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with.
00:48:19.000Have civil conversations with people where you disagree with things.
00:51:24.000It's not worth the amount of money that it costs if you're renting a house that's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills.
00:51:45.000Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money, to get all these other things, leaves you in this constant state of anxiety.
00:51:56.000I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more.
00:53:09.000And that morning show was doing real well until...
00:53:12.000Do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA? Before podcast, it was like Tom Likas was on there, and it was a bunch of good shows.
00:54:07.000When you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now, do you go, wow, this is amazing that all these people are doing it?
00:57:02.000So, has entertainment, in your eyes, changed where it's changing, where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show?
00:57:14.000Well, it's definitely consuming a lot of your time.
00:57:17.000I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if you look at my screen time on my phone, on an average day, it'll be more than four hours.
00:57:23.000And how much of that is doom-scrolling?
00:58:24.000But do you think this was existing 30 years ago, where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching them just for fun, and we didn't see it?
00:58:32.000There was probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it, and everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face.
00:58:39.000But it just never would have been the discipline that it is now, where this guy's got fucking guys blocking them, and he's juking left and right, and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth.
00:58:59.000That's another thing you could say about podcasting, too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music, right?
00:59:13.000Most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course.
00:59:16.000But now, the podcast thing is, like, you could pause it at any time, you could start it at any time.
00:59:21.000So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two-hour road trip, now you're occupied.
00:59:27.000Now the road trip's easy because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit and Joey Diaz is telling stories and it's great.
00:59:36.000I mean so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available it wasn't being utilized before and So what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen or sit there and watch I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in you listen to a podcast or while you're driving or Or you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored.
01:00:03.000You get to listen to some interesting shit.
01:00:05.000And I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane.
01:02:41.000I just want to get the most out of him that I can get.
01:02:44.000I just want to try to massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are.
01:02:55.000And also, I'm very fascinated by his research.
01:02:59.000It's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person.
01:03:04.000He's done a lot of research in the Big Bang.
01:03:07.000He's got a very interesting thought about the Big Bang, that he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.
01:03:12.000And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now.
01:03:52.000I mean, I was open-minded generally, but not like I am now.
01:03:55.000I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought.
01:03:58.000What my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways instead of considering them from a broader perspective.
01:04:05.000But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that because there's a lot of times when even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this?
01:04:17.000So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration Like, okay, but someone could think of it this way.
01:04:51.000But you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and going, this is all from the same father.
01:05:10.000I mean, my daughter and my son, the differences between them.
01:05:13.000And you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own and you actually see it going, wow, this one's outgoing, this one's shy, this one likes piano, this one likes t-ball.
01:10:28.000It started getting to the point where, oh my god, are these kids going to fight in first class?
01:10:32.000And so then this fucking lady, who is the flight attendant, she came in and told them both she was going to have them removed from the plane, sit down, shut up.
01:10:42.000And then she came to me and she goes, if anything goes down, you're gonna help me, right?
01:10:48.000I was like, what do you want me to do?
01:10:51.000Because if I'm gonna help you, it's gonna get real messy.
01:10:56.000Are you gonna say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy?
01:11:00.000Like, you know, I'm not gonna, like, I'm not gonna play nice.
01:11:04.000If you're on a plane and you've got to take someone out, you have a very short amount of movement, it's gotta be very violent.
01:11:53.000You're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational, possibly schizophrenic, who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy.
01:13:50.000So, so many people lost their businesses.
01:13:52.000So many people lost their livelihoods.
01:13:54.000So many people have a deep distrust for the government and the world now.
01:13:59.000And then there's this thing where people are being coddled for being mentally ill, where you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about.
01:14:11.000So I think people encourage mental illness.
01:14:13.000They encourage breakdowns, and they do it all the time in the real world, and so they think they could do it on fucking planes.
01:14:19.000And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their fucking minds who really shouldn't be out there in the world.
01:14:25.000And, you know, they think the mafia is after them and they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16A. You know, the whole thing's nuts.
01:14:32.000And it's just like, I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before.
01:14:38.000And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media.
01:14:40.000You're being fed every day the worst shit that's happening in the world.
01:14:46.000Gaza, Ukraine, you know, the fucking ocean's boiling.
01:15:01.000You know, it's just like everyone's on edge.
01:15:03.000So you get all those people, you stick them in a fucking tube, and then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really, there's no authority figure on that plane.
01:15:12.000There's these women, these poor women, or men, or whoever they are, there's flight attendants, that have to fucking deal with these people.
01:15:19.000And most of them are just regular people.
01:15:21.000They're not, I mean, they do have those guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally.
01:16:39.000But I don't think that a 50-year-old man today or a 58-year-old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 58-year-old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement.
01:16:50.000So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike Tyson doing everything.
01:17:37.000There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19 year old and he's throwing these combinations like and he's 210 pounds 215 pounds throwing combinations like Sugar Ray Leonard like it's it's insane to watch he was so fast and And that was a big factor in his success.
01:17:57.000He does not have that kind of speed anymore.
01:20:41.000People mocked me when I was saying that before, but now I think people are coming around.
01:20:45.000And the way I look at it, I say, if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube, and you just saw him box, and you saw him knock out former UFC champions,
01:21:32.000And the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson, even if Tyson's 57, just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do.
01:22:42.000And I submit that that Mike Tyson, the Mike Tyson that won the title against Trevor Burbick, the Mike Tyson that beat Larry Holmes, I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time.
01:22:55.000Didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing to Buster Douglas and you know It's I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime Like what what did you what have you ever seen that was better than this and with Mike Tyson?
01:23:10.000I've never seen anybody better I've never seen any fighter even Ali in his prime even Ali when he was Cassius Clay I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime and I think you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy.
01:23:27.000I mean, Marvis looks fucking terrified, and he should be.
01:27:03.000He's still got that in him, and I'm telling you, if you keep giving that guy hormones, and you keep giving that guy supplements, and he's constantly training, here's this.
01:28:12.000The question is, can his body move along with it?
01:28:15.000But that part of his mind, you're clearly seeing.
01:28:18.000He's terrifying when he's in the zone.
01:28:20.000I changed the shape of the table because of him.
01:28:24.000This table, we had the table that was this size at the old studio, and at the new studio, I was like, maybe we'll make the table smaller, it'll be more intimate, it'll be closer to the guest.
01:28:36.000So we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds.
01:28:40.000And he was just eating and having fun and smoking weed.
01:28:51.000So he just decided that he was just going to be chill Mike Tyson.
01:28:54.000And then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr. So he gets in insane shape.
01:28:59.000And the next time I see him, the second podcast we do, Mike now weighs 230 pounds and he's got these muscles in his forearms.
01:29:08.000So he's sitting there and he's a different human.
01:29:11.000He's so intense that I was like, if this table was closer to him, I would be nervous.
01:29:16.000Like I wouldn't be able to do my best job As a podcaster, the reason why this table is this width is the second podcast I did with Mike Tyson.
01:35:15.000You have to stand there and get slapped.
01:35:16.000And the only thing that could save you is if your slap is so good and you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do to decide who slaps who first, you slap that guy unconscious and then it's over.
01:35:54.000Bas Rutten was one of the all-time greats in MMA, and he started his fighting in an organization called Pancrase.
01:36:02.000And Pancrase in Japan, this is the early days, as the UFC was just emerging.
01:36:08.000They started doing fights with no gloves on, but they said instead of punching, you could only slap.
01:36:14.000So with Bas Rutten, he's got very flexible wrists, so he would pull his hands way back like this, and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands.
01:36:25.000So he wasn't throwing them like you would think like a bitch slap.
01:36:27.000He was throwing punches with his palms.
01:36:30.000He was uppercutting guys and knocking them unconscious with his palms.
01:43:28.000What's the odds of a guy who doesn't really do any strenuous, no tennis, no nothing like that, to lose both of his biceps by 50, and now I got it in my head that everything's going to fall apart.
01:47:34.000It's an inversion and core training system.
01:47:38.000But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported, you know, you could do like back extensions and stuff on it, but I really don't use it for that.
01:47:46.000Mostly what I use it for is just decompressing.
01:47:48.000So I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing.
01:47:58.000And you feel it pop, like I'll lie in it and it goes pop, pop, pop, pop.
01:48:07.000And it also, you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline and it's really good for strengthening those muscles.
01:48:14.000And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more.
01:48:17.000I'll do a set of back extensions on it and then I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop and All right, yeah Decompression of the back and spine is very important.
01:48:27.000That's why yoga is so good because you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight and then everything tight as you get older like you just keep shrinking You know, that's what happens to old people.
01:48:37.000They're fucking the space in between their spine goes away And then they get this hunch and then they're immobile.
01:52:01.000They went skiing, well, we went skiing in December, and my wife loves skiing, and of course, I'm at the fucking bottom of the hill waiting for the...
01:53:12.000This is a great town for comedy right now.
01:53:16.000There's a lot of big-time comedy fans here now.
01:53:19.000Yeah, well, I mean, your club, which I'm dying to do, and I'm sorry that I didn't get out here to do it, but I definitely want to do the ship.
01:55:10.000A friend of mine who's actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this.
01:55:14.000He said it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact of this.
01:55:21.000Earth prepares for solar storm impact from three CMEs this weekend.
01:55:25.000Solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M10. I don't know what that means.
01:55:35.000The most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668, as well as the production of numerous M-class solar flares and 2X-class solar flares from what CME is,
01:55:52.000coronal mass ejection, that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend.
01:56:25.000For me, what I got is a deep respect for these people that have not, they're not just watching the sun, but they've made regions of the sun.
01:56:33.000So they can refer to these specific regions where this solar activity is taking.
01:57:07.000It's like, fuck, it's all over the place.
01:57:10.000It's got these giant ejections that happen that could cook our satellites.
01:57:14.000And in the past, before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today, there was a big mass ejection, I think, that they recorded in the 1800s that took out communications for whatever they had back then.
02:03:27.000If they turn around at all, and everybody has this idea of, oh, this is L.A. L.A.'s like that.
02:03:32.000I'm like, no, it's not like that anymore.
02:03:34.000They're burning cop cars in the middle of the street, looting businesses, they're letting people do it, they're smashing grabs, they're just telling you you can't shop after 6 p.m.
02:04:12.000We're all hanging out we were jumping in the water together and swimming and people listening to the fucking leonard skinner and People were singing and drinking and it was like everybody's having fun and there was no masks whereas in la everyone was like Terrified and locked down and so this was in may of 2020 we were only It was only two months into the pandemic and I was already trying to get out And then by august I was already here.
02:04:35.000I was like fuck you guys and And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows.
02:05:31.000It is nuts that this place, I mean, I just looked around the city, I mean, the amount of buildings that are going up is crazy.
02:05:38.000The only thing I do see, do you think the infrastructure of the city can withstand the amount of people here, like the roads and the traffic and They're doing work on that.
02:06:42.000Because, look, if California was perfect, and I had to pay a lot of money, but they kept the streets clean, and there was no crime, and everybody's having a good time, and there's great schools and great social programs, this feels good.
02:06:56.000Yeah, I'm spending a lot of money in taxes, but man, I live in a fucking utopia.
02:07:03.000It feels like you're getting fucked by people who tell you they're gonna fuck you, and they have to fuck you, and if you don't want to get fucked, you're a part of the problem.
02:07:19.000I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville.
02:07:21.000I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida.
02:07:22.000I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds, and people gravitate towards those parts where people realize, like, hey, there's some real need for law and order.
02:08:07.000Because even the most liberal people here, they're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in L.A. Liberal people in L.A. were cult members, and they felt like if you weren't on their team, you were some kind of a Nazi, and you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
02:12:35.000Even walking through this place before I came in to know, like, you know, I saw you at the comedy store hanging out in the parking lot, and now you're floating in a tank in your own warehouse.