On this week's episode, the brother and sister duo of the are joined by their good friend and long-time co-worker Matt to talk about a variety of topics, including the time he lost his virginity to a woman from the late 60s and early 70s, and what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who can remember everything you ve ever done or ever will remember something you ve never even THINK of doing. Plus, the boys talk about the new Star Trek: The Rise of the Ape and the new Planet of the Apes, and the future of the human race, and some other things that have yet to be declassified in the new science fiction and fantasy novels and movies that have been published in the past century, like The Twilight Zone and The Dark Side of the Moon, and The X-Files. And of course, a little bit of Star Trek. We hope you enjoy this episode, and don't forget to leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, too! if you like it, share it with a friend, and tell us what you think about it! Timestamps: 0:00 - What's the craziest thing you've ever heard of a time machine? 5:30 - What are the weirdest things you can remember from the past? 6:15 - What do you remember from your childhood? 7:00- What's weirdest thing you can't remember? 8:20 - How did you lose your virginity to someone from the 60s? 9:40 - Who was your first date? 10:30- What would you do with your first girlfriend? 11:15- What is your favorite movie star? 13:00 15:00, what's your favorite TV show? 16:30, what would you like to see in the future? 17:20- What kind of movie would you would you want to see again? 18:40- What are you most excited about in the next episode of the Twilight Zone? 19:40, what do you think of the most important thing you're watching right now? 22:00 | What szn 21:50 - How do you feel about it? 26: What s your favorite part of your life? 27:50, what are you looking forward to next? 28:10, what s your biggest takeaway from this episode?
00:02:35.000Yeah, but like shit that you would remember too.
00:02:38.000Right, like how often do you watch one of those nature shows and you see like elephants wandering around aimlessly and you know they're looking for their car.
00:02:47.000Because they can't remember where they parked.
00:07:47.000You have numbers, and the amount of predators is based on the amount of prey and the amount of babies they have and the amount of babies that survive.
00:07:53.000You know, animals that have less babies don't survive as well.
00:07:58.000Animals that are bigger fight off the wolves better.
00:09:09.000Yeah, so there's all these animals like stags and all these different kinds of deer, all these animals that are not supposed to be in New Zealand.
00:10:30.000Bro, if you didn't know, if you didn't know, if you were in the dark, and you were in camping, and you had an elk bugle, and you didn't know what that was, you'd think, oh my god, there's monsters out here.
00:11:50.000Fleming response takes place when one lion of either sex sniffs or smells the urine of another.
00:11:55.000Chemicals and hormones contained in the urine elicit the Fleming response.
00:11:59.000Usually after smelling the urine patch on the ground or vegetation, the cat is doing the smelling, will lift his or her head and hold their lips back in a strong grimace.
00:13:04.000So we got the guy driving from our camp, and this thing, one of them got up, walked halfway to us, and just did that burning stare with its golden eyes.
00:14:10.000But I didn't know we were going to come up on two male lions that were in the middle of eating a wildebeest and be the only ones there and like 25 feet away, and one of them was going to shorten the distance by half.
00:14:38.000I think it was a different situation, though.
00:14:40.000I don't think they were acclimated to the open-air ones, because in this one, it was cars, and she rolled her window down to reach out to take a picture, and the cat just snatched her.
00:14:54.000I mean, you're basically rolling a piece of yarn.
00:14:56.000If a cat sees a thing that he couldn't get, but now he can get it, their instinct is just to get it.
00:15:03.000Even if they never would do that, if the windows were rolled down from the beginning, the moment they see you peeking out, you're basically dangling.
00:15:45.000So I had time to kill, so I looked on the thing.
00:15:48.000Halfway across, there's a lion safari where you can drive through, right?
00:15:53.000And you drove through in a convertible?
00:15:54.000No, so I pulled up, and they said, Sir, you can't go through with a convertible, but for ten extra dollars, we'll rent you one of our little junkers.
00:16:05.000And the junkers were painted like a zebra because it was a lion park.
00:18:04.000If you're trying to learn American English, like how we use things, like just English, and you spoke another language that was more logical, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:20:55.000I was in the Galapagos Islands recently, and they have a rodent over there called the Bermuda eel rat, and it's not a documented species, it's the local jargon.
00:22:36.000Well, what it does, it reacts to the vibration of sound, and celery's kind of got the best kind of crunch, and it kind of settles the guy down.
00:26:57.000I know quite a few people that have been deathly ill from staph infections and had to go to the hospital and get their legs cut open and get their legs drained.
00:27:17.0002017, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported that almost 20,000 people in the United States died from bloodstream infections caused by staph.
00:33:53.000And he used this line where he's singing, he goes, he's doing a song in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and he does a line where he goes, and the bear came a lollipin' over the mountain.
00:34:04.000And I'm sitting there picking blueberries, and this behemoth comes flying over the hill.
00:43:37.000It's someone's baby boy that I don't know.
00:43:40.000That guy has parents, and they probably love him, and he probably has a wife, and she loves him, and he probably has friends, and they love him.
00:45:00.000Whenever you get into an altercation with someone you feel disliked towards someone, you should always just picture yourself trapped on an island with that person and go, You know what?
00:45:09.000If I were alone with them, I would love them.
00:45:36.000Not only that, labeling them, calling them clowns, and denigrating them, saying, you're less than me because I like this and you like that.
00:45:45.000Do you remember that there was a beautiful experiment done by Jane Elliott in the 1960s?
00:45:53.000Where she took a classroom of children and she said all the children with brown eyes raise your hands and all the children with blue eyes raise your hands and she separated them.
00:46:06.000She told all the blue-eyed children that they were beautiful, they were smarter, they were more superior than the brown-eyed children.
00:46:15.000And she conducted this experiment for a week, and over the course of the days, the blue-eyed children started denigrating and looking down on the brown-eyed children and acting superior.
00:46:30.000And then halfway through the experiment, Jane Elliott goes, oh, I made a mistake.
00:46:35.000It's the brown-eyed children that are more superior, and so the whole thing shifted, and all the children in that class got to feel what it was like To be put down, to have racism towards them.
00:48:02.000Anytime there's any sort of international conflict.
00:48:05.000Palestine and Israel, Ukraine and Russia.
00:48:08.000You have a sect of people that sort of know what's what, and then you have a large sect of people that just get caught up in the furor of it.
00:48:17.000And it's scary to see how quickly people are absorbed by it and caught up in it.
00:48:34.000When there's a bunch of people walking around, even if it's peaceful, and they're cheering, especially if they're cheering about something that happened that was violent, and they're angry, and they're demanding something, and they're all marching.
01:03:02.000Like, if you're planning a trip to Florida now, like, hey, you know, you gotta check that weather.
01:03:07.000Yeah, but it can be stunningly beautiful, though.
01:03:10.000I've been in scenarios where I've been in Florida at night, and you got celery juice on me, and you look out, like, two, three miles out, and there will be active storms going on in the cumulus, right?
01:04:08.000But if you can go out on a stormy night like that, rain coming down with your magnetized nitronic reverse camera and take a picture while lightning's flashing, think of it.
01:04:58.000How can you be in a place that you've never been before, you're standing somewhere foreign, somewhere new, and all of a sudden your brain computes that you've been in this exact moment and it's undeniable.
01:05:32.000Brain is essentially just like a computer in a way.
01:05:35.000There's a lot of calculations that are going on simultaneously.
01:05:38.000A lot of sensors are being considered.
01:05:40.000Different senses are affecting the way you view the world.
01:05:43.000And I think it's very possible that you can have a situation where things just get a little wonky for a second and you think, have I done this before?
01:06:51.000So I documented the experience, the time, the place, and I've gone back to that same place for nine years to the exact same place at the same time.
01:09:59.000Maybe there's just this mathematical cycle of atoms and protons and molecules interacting with each other.
01:10:07.000This is the way it's always going to go.
01:10:10.000It's going to go this way the same way over and over and over again.
01:10:14.000And the only thing different is that you get to learn from your past mistakes at least some way in the essence of your being and do a better job of existing this next go around.
01:10:26.000I don't know that we have to do a better job.
01:10:32.000We're just hanging on to bear's tapeworms at this point, you know?
01:10:37.000Yeah, but if you live the same life over and over and over again, you're going to go through the same nature interaction over and over again.
01:10:43.000It's not going to be like a differently evolved world.
01:10:46.000You're going to live the same thing over and over again.
01:10:49.000Like, if you thought about it, like you and I. How old are you?
01:11:28.000We were born in a time where there was no internet and you got your news from television and everybody had a sort of a limited understanding of the world.
01:11:36.000You could bullshit your way through most things because nobody could Google you.
01:11:52.000Then there's answering machines and cell phones, and then the internet comes along, and now we're living in a fucking insane world where AI's about to take over.
01:12:02.000If you were gonna pick a timeline to go through if it wasn't real, and you wanted the most profound adventure, you've chosen that.
01:12:11.000You've chosen the most profound changes that people will experience in a relatively safe timeline.
01:12:19.000Relatively safe in comparison to the Genghis Khan days or the days of the Roman Empire.
01:12:30.000And we're accelerating so rapidly, Joe, that things are going to be at a whole other level quickly where we're going to be looking in the rearview mirror and going, oh yeah, AI. Remember that?
01:12:45.000There's going to be something that takes us to the next level.
01:13:21.000And then we got the home computer and then the internet, and that was again like a decade in between.
01:13:29.000And cut to smartphones, and it's been about, what, 15 years with them now, and now AI, and it's just like, everything's happening exponentially quicker.
01:13:41.000I remember I was on news radio with Dave Foley in the 90s.
01:13:45.000Dave Foley, he's a big computer internet technology nut.
01:14:18.000So it's like all the news stories of world events.
01:14:21.000And so when I look back now at how we're just inundated, like constantly inundated with like world conflict stories, world events, world problems, world environmental crises, world starvation, world floods, like world volcanoes with lightning.
01:15:11.000Yeah, I'm excited to see where it goes.
01:15:15.000Because I think the next evolution of this could be tractor beams, it could be particle movers, it could be, you know, as ridiculous as it sounds, the transporter beam on Star Trek.
01:19:09.000There's things that I don't like in terms of search results, curation, because that's the thing that Google does, that Robert Epstein has been working on for a long time, like, showing that when you...
01:19:20.000Like, say if you Google a presidential candidate, right?
01:19:24.000If you Google a candidate that's Democrat, you'll get...
01:19:28.000You know, especially someone who they want to win, you'll get like a lot of positive stories that come up first, and you have to go deep if you want to find something about corruption or accusations or anything like that.
01:19:38.000But if you do Google Republican, it'll go right to that.
01:19:42.000Now, I'm not saying this is just an example.
01:19:45.000But his research shows this, and I'm doing a bad job of paraphrasing it because I don't remember exactly what it said.
01:19:51.000But essentially, his claim was that in curating search results, you can have an impact on elections.
01:19:58.000In curating search results and putting positive things for the people that you want to be elected in the prominence of the search result, if it's not an organic search result, if you actually are curating it, you can affect the way people feel about candidate, and that will affect the election results.
01:20:20.000But I also have an issue with the Apple walled garden, and I think there's a lawsuit going on right now about that, where they're trying to get people to, you know, because of iMessage and FaceTime and all that stuff doesn't work on other phones.
01:26:36.000I don't know, but this is people in 2024. Whereas if you gave this to people in 1924, they'd be like, there's no way everybody will have the world solved.
01:26:44.000Once they have these, oh my god, then they have all the information.
01:26:47.000And then people will know exactly what everybody looks like.
01:26:54.000And now, like, there's filters that you could use where I, from just a small snippet of your conversation on this podcast, I think they need about 30 seconds, 30 seconds of your voice, and then I could pretend to be you, like, just talk like this,
01:27:10.000and the audience would see you with what you're wearing, the way your hair is, everything, in your voice.
01:27:16.000So everything that I say, like me saying this right now, It would be you saying this right now.
01:27:21.000Your voice, your face, your body, everything looks like you.
01:34:49.000In a hot day, you get in there like, oh, fuck.
01:34:52.000I jumped in Lake Superior once, and it was one of those things, I probably stayed in about five minutes, and I've never experienced it, but when I got out for about 40 minutes after, I was shaking.
01:36:01.000There is a possibility, it's an extreme one, but I'm trying to answer your question, that a predatory bird, like an osprey or a gull or some kind of fish-eating bird...
01:36:26.000Well, have you ever been to a farm or anything like that, and sometimes they have those water troughs that they leave out for the cows, but they've been abandoned?
01:36:37.000Or you come to a place where there's like a little puddle in a field or something, and somehow there's fish in it, and there's newts, and there's aquatic creatures, and you go, how did they get here?
01:38:40.000So if they evolved, so these lakes and streams from the lower part of the country...
01:38:46.000So if you're talking about New Mexico or something like that, some area that wasn't covered in ice, these things swim all the way up the river, and then they evolve in this lake to become bigger and to become adapted to the cold, deep water.
01:39:28.000The way the fish got into the Great Lakes is a way deeper story than I've uncovered so far, but the way salmon got there, specifically in the 60s.
01:40:48.000Imagine tomorrow, like front page of every newspaper, Harlan Williams and Joe Rogan pose serious question as to how fish got in the Great Lakes.
01:40:58.000And they all start talking to us, coming to us like, how did you guys realize that Fish had to get into the Great Lakes when the Great Lakes used to be covered in a glacier.
01:41:07.000You guys are geniuses, untouched geniuses of nature.
01:41:11.000And then maybe when Trump gets in for a second term, he appoints us to some sort of a nature advisory board and we give...
01:45:38.000I hate to see Dimitri around one of those.
01:45:41.000So in the 1950s, the U.S. and Canada teamed up for population control measures, and they have worked several strategies, including traps to capture adult lampreys, lampricides, poison, target seed lamprey larvae,
01:45:56.000and installing barriers are a few tactics to use.
01:47:21.000So Spanish fishermen, to their ingenuity, they used to eat sea turtles, and when they'd catch a remora, they'd keep it alive in the boat, and when they saw a sea turtle, they'd put it on their line, throw it in the water, the remoras would go to the sea turtles,
01:47:38.000stick on the shell, and they'd reel in sea turtles.
01:48:29.000I've seen a bunch of videos of people cooking and eating sea turtles in other countries.
01:48:34.000Because there's some cooking show or fishing show where some guy went with them, and you're not allowed to do it, but you can be there while people are doing it.
01:48:41.000If you're an American, you're not allowed to kill a sea turtle.
01:57:24.000There's another old video where some Danish guy's going through a lion safari with his wife and kids, and he got out with his camera, and literally the kids and the wife, you see them in the car going berserk, and his legs are kicking in the air,
01:57:40.000and the lion just came and devoured him right in front of the wife and kids.
01:58:00.000At least the kid has the benefit of seeing his dad get, like, my dad was so dumb.
01:58:05.000Like, you know, you can have a dumb dad and get through things and be a different person than your dad was.
01:58:10.000And if you're a dumb kid and your dad is dumb as shit, your dad gets out and gets eaten by a lion in front of you, that has a profound effect.
01:58:21.000You could have a genius kid, be stupid.
01:58:24.000I gotta be honest though, Joe, in this world we live in where humans expire primarily in a hospital bed or at home around their loved ones with a disease, with whatever, cancer.
01:59:19.000There were two male lions, no one else in the middle of Africa.
01:59:24.000Part of me wanted to jump out of the truck and just run at the lion and attack it, knowing that I'd die, but knowing that it would be the most glorious death Of a man with courage or stupidity,
01:59:41.000but at least I would die in a fashion where in the real world, organic, nature, man versus beast, beast versus beast, because I don't like to think of us as superior to other creatures, but that actually popped into my head.
01:59:59.000I thought, I don't want to expire in the leukemia ward.
02:03:10.000I can be at harmony with the fact that she's gone, and I wasn't even super close with my mom, but the hole that got left in my heart, it's like, ooh, if I focus on it, I can feel it immediately.
02:03:23.000And it's just that connection to the mother, the person that brought you into this world, you know, is really, really powerful.
02:03:33.000And so in the dream, what happened with your dad?
02:03:37.000What I remember more than the actual moment is that feeling, that feeling of emptiness, that, oh, they're gone, you know, just gone forever.
02:03:47.000And it was really sort of this sad, crushing feeling on my soul.
02:06:41.000Yeah, and so they were she was in there with the gun talking to the kids and the kids freaked out And then when they broke down the front door the kids ran away from the mom and she just blew her brains out The only good side is they didn't see her do that, I'm guessing.
02:10:58.000Well, not only famous, but what really kind of was hard to get your head around.
02:11:07.000Is you have this guy who's an extreme comedy force, right?
02:11:11.000And you don't think of joyous sort of comedy, people that elicit laughter and violence like that.
02:11:19.000And so the fact here was this funny sort of ha-ha-ha guy that brought so much laughter, and then that kind of ending, it's like it just doesn't fit.
02:11:29.000But not only that, it's like, when does the wife kill the husband with a gun?
02:12:49.000Look, if there was a legitimate happy pill that worked like that with everybody, that gave you sort of like a low dose of MDMA all throughout the day, it's probably a good thing for everybody.
02:13:11.000On a daily basis, if you start tinkering with what the structure was, how it was already the architecture of the structure, I feel like it's not maybe necessarily a good thing.
02:13:25.000Taking cocaine and antidepressants can interfere with your medication's ability to balance the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain, making them ineffective and possibly worsening your symptoms.
02:13:35.000Essentially, antidepressants are meant to correct any chemical imbalances that may contribute to depression such as low serotonin.
02:13:41.000Cocaine, on the other hand, is abused to spike dopamine and serotonin levels producing an energetic and euphoric high.
02:13:50.000Although this rush of dopamine and serotonin makes them feel great for a few minutes, Mixing antidepressants and cocaine can produce serotonin syndrome, which is marked by symptoms like confusion, anxiety, fear, diarrhea, vomiting, seizures, and coma.
02:14:03.000Additionally, taking cocaine with other drugs also increases the individual's risk of addiction.
02:14:08.000Chronic users often require cocaine addiction treatment and treatment for cocaine withdrawal symptoms to recover.
02:14:15.000Is there mixing Zoloft and cocaine psychotic behavior?
02:14:47.000You know, it's hard to believe that someone could do that to someone that they're married to, that they have children with, that they love, supposedly.
02:14:54.000That you would lose your mind that far that you would shoot them in the sleep.
02:16:35.000Yeah, I've heard that story at SNL. Yeah, they'll steal your ideas for your sketches, and Jim Brewer had horrible stories about that, where he had sketch ideas, and he'd put them in this spreadsheet, and they could read the spreadsheet of what you were going to do the sketches on.
02:17:14.000Really weak man, backstabbing shit when they get power.
02:17:20.000That happens when they have too much power unchecked and no one's watching them and they get away with things like stealing younger writers' premises and it's all dog-eat-dog.
02:17:31.000Everybody's just trying to get to the top.
02:17:33.000That's always been a part of stand-up.
02:17:35.000I've always been a part of comedies, like people stealing people's bits and the famous person steals them and the unfamous person's fucked and destroys their lives.
02:18:33.000I always heard, and I'm sure he could do anything he wanted on his own volition, but I had always heard stories that Robin Williams was that guy.
02:18:43.000Did you ever hear anything about that?
02:18:45.000Yeah, I heard a lot of stories that he was that guy.
02:18:47.000Yeah, and I think Robin Williams was so, like, part of that manic sort of style.
02:18:52.000It's like this constant need to have a bit about anything that you're talking about ever.
02:18:58.000Killing I think was more important and filling that hole inside of him was more important than anything.
02:19:03.000And so he would just do other people's stuff if he didn't have anything to say.
02:19:07.000Did he get confronted by other comedians?
02:19:19.000If you ask any of those comics from back then, there's always instances of Robin going on a talk show and doing your bit or going on this and doing your bit.
02:20:28.000That woman who was the president of Harvard got busted plagiarizing.
02:20:31.000She's not a president of Harvard anymore.
02:20:32.000There's consequences always, but in comedy, It's always been self-policed.
02:20:40.000It's a weird thing, that thing that people do, where they try to pawn off other people's bits as their own.
02:20:49.000It's a vampire thing, because you're around all these creative people, and you're just stealing a little bit from this guy and a little bit from that guy, and people are scared of you.
02:20:58.000Did you ever put a guy up against the wall?
02:23:01.000One of the things that we noticed in the early days of the store is that the guys who are thieves, their opening acts would become thieves.
02:23:07.000Because even if the opening acts had potential, and some of them got out of it and actually became like legit comics eventually, but they were seeing the shortcuts that this guy was taking, they were seeing this guy driving a Mercedes, and they're like, I want to take shortcuts too.
02:27:14.000So it was cool as a team thing, too, because sometimes he's ranting about something, we're all laughing, and I'll just, while it's happening, I'll pull in the bucket, try to find another good one.
02:27:45.000When you get that one that you just came up with and it's 100%, maybe even 110%.
02:27:52.000They're rare, but it's like, oh, yeah.
02:27:54.000Did you see the Andrew Schultz thing that he did about Los Angeles where he's like, you know, everybody's saying that you guys are a bunch of drug addicts and perverts and psychopaths, but...
02:28:06.000That's just one part of L.A. called Diddy's House.