The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2162 - Tim Dillon

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00:00:11.000 Dude, I get it, man.

00:00:13.000 You get it?

00:00:13.000 I get it.

00:00:15.000 I get the whole thing.

00:00:16.000 You see how powerful you feel? 0.99

00:00:18.000 Yeah, you feel like you can talk shit, like you're in another dimension. 0.98

00:00:21.000 All the things that you do, like working out and succeeding, you don't need to really do a lot of that. 0.99

00:00:27.000 If you put these on, you get a lot of the effects of being a trained fighter and all that crap.

00:00:35.000 If you just put these on, you kind of get the idea of that. 1.00

00:00:39.000 Until someone calls you out and kills you.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, you gotta avoid actual conflicts.

00:00:43.000 You gotta run away.

00:00:44.000 But you do feel superior to people.

00:00:46.000 Oh, for sure.

00:00:47.000 Like you have a suit on or something.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, it keeps you away.

00:00:51.000 There's a distance between you and other people now.

00:00:54.000 That must be why celebrities wear them when they go out.

00:00:57.000 Probably.

00:00:58.000 We'll see at concerts or UFC fights, you'll see celebrities with full-on sunglasses.

00:01:04.000 Interesting.

00:01:05.000 Yeah.

00:01:06.000 They're like a cat hiding underneath a chair and the tail's hanging out. 1.00

00:01:10.000 It's like, you can't see me, but I can see you, stupid. 1.00

00:01:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:13.000 No, people, they do give you some... 1.00

00:01:17.000 And a lot of people, I guess, are on drugs.

00:01:19.000 Yeah, that's probably why.

00:01:20.000 And then their eyes are bugged out of their head.

00:01:22.000 I just think they're trying to avoid eye contact with people, because then people are trying to give them a script.

00:01:27.000 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:01:28.000 They just want to be left alone.

00:01:30.000 Yeah, I mean, if you want to be left alone in public, maybe that's the only way to do it.

00:01:35.000 And they're getting bigger and bigger.

00:01:36.000 These are so huge.

00:01:38.000 They're crazy.

00:01:38.000 This is like a rich lady who gets out of a car with a small dog.

00:01:42.000 They're crazy, and you wear them, and when I got them, I got them as a joke, but then you just keep doing it.

00:01:48.000 Because they're good.

00:01:49.000 Because they're good.

00:01:50.000 They're actually fun.

00:01:51.000 And people come up to you and say nice things about the sunglasses.

00:01:55.000 Which is weird.

00:01:56.000 Which is weird.

00:01:56.000 They'll go, these sunglasses are really cool.

00:01:58.000 And like cool people.

00:02:00.000 Like black people. 1.00

00:02:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:02:03.000 Like a black guy will go, those shades are cool. 1.00

00:02:06.000 And I'll go, that's great.

00:02:06.000 Like if a guy like me says it, it means nothing.

00:02:09.000 I would throw them out.

00:02:11.000 This is like a bad sunglasses from the 80s.

00:02:16.000 Yeah.

00:02:17.000 Like what Brian Bosworth used to wear.

00:02:19.000 Do you remember the Boz? 0.91

00:02:20.000 I don't.

00:02:21.000 He was the guy who was famous for his sunglasses.

00:02:23.000 He was a big-time football player.

00:02:25.000 Interesting.

00:02:26.000 He was one of those, you know, every now and then, one of those fellas, like, what's his name, the one that's dating Taylor Swift?

00:02:31.000 Travis Kelsey.

00:02:32.000 That guy.

00:02:33.000 Like, when one of those guys breaks through and becomes famous, that was the Boz. 1.00

00:02:37.000 Oh, wow!

00:02:37.000 See?

00:02:39.000 I mean, those are corny as shit in 2000. But here we are in 2024. They're back. 0.99

00:02:45.000 Invest in bell bottoms, kids.

00:02:46.000 They're absolutely back.

00:02:47.000 They're absolutely back.

00:02:49.000 Yeah.

00:02:50.000 Yeah, he had a mullet too.

00:02:51.000 Everything comes back.

00:02:53.000 Mullets are back.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, mullets are back.

00:02:56.000 Theo probably helped with that.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, big time.

00:02:58.000 And lesbians.

00:02:59.000 Lesbians, Theo. 1.00

00:03:00.000 There's not enough new ideas.

00:03:02.000 You've got to recycle certain ideas.

00:03:04.000 After a while you go, the Mohawk's not that bad.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, of course.

00:03:08.000 What's the problem?

00:03:09.000 Everything was baggy, and then everything was tight, and now everything's getting baggy again.

00:03:14.000 Yeah.

00:03:14.000 The ladies are wearing baggy pants.

00:03:16.000 A lot of people are wearing baggy stuff, but then that'll probably swing.

00:03:20.000 Yeah, I thought the whole ideal of the tight pants is to show your body. 0.99

00:03:23.000 That's what it's for, right?

00:03:25.000 For sure.

00:03:26.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 What happened, ladies?

00:03:27.000 I don't know.

00:03:28.000 Why'd you go baggy?

00:03:29.000 Something happened.

00:03:30.000 I don't get it.

00:03:31.000 Go back to the tight stuff.

00:03:32.000 Yeah.

00:03:33.000 That looks better.

00:03:34.000 Well, they feel no one can objectify them if they wear a bag.

00:03:39.000 Yeah.

00:03:39.000 Yet they'll go to the gym in yoga pants.

00:03:41.000 That's right.

00:03:42.000 That are so thin, you could literally read braille through them.

00:03:47.000 Right. 1.00

00:03:48.000 And you see your full vagina just hanging out. 1.00

00:03:54.000 And a lot of these gals are not wearing panties because they don't want the line. 1.00

00:03:57.000 I don't want them to be in line. 1.00

00:03:59.000 So they have just raw pussy covered by yoga pants out there in the wild. 1.00

00:04:04.000 We're kind of lucky as comedians to wear... 1.00

00:04:07.000 Pretty much.

00:04:08.000 Like, you dress up in a suit for UFC and for other stuff.

00:04:12.000 Yeah.

00:04:12.000 But most of us don't.

00:04:14.000 Yeah, I don't mind a suit.

00:04:16.000 I like it.

00:04:17.000 I wear it if I have to go somewhere special.

00:04:19.000 Yeah.

00:04:20.000 Throw a suit on.

00:04:21.000 Right.

00:04:21.000 You know, I don't mind it.

00:04:23.000 Sebastian's into it.

00:04:24.000 Boy, that guy.

00:04:25.000 They wear it.

00:04:25.000 I saw Seinfeld at Gotham.

00:04:27.000 He's in it.

00:04:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:28.000 People wear them.

00:04:29.000 Mulaney wears one.

00:04:30.000 Yeah, they like to wear them.

00:04:31.000 It gives you a certain...

00:04:32.000 You feel like you're some sort of an expert.

00:04:36.000 For sure.

00:04:36.000 You're definitely better than the guy in the hoodie.

00:04:40.000 Yes, I agree.

00:04:42.000 But I'm the guy in the hoodie and I agree with that.

00:04:44.000 Yeah, I agree too.

00:04:44.000 Like when I see Seinfeld, I go, I agree that you are.

00:04:47.000 And it's not even fashion.

00:04:49.000 He's better in every way.

00:04:50.000 I wear hoodies three days a week.

00:04:52.000 It's fun to wear a hoodie and jeans.

00:04:54.000 Yeah, it's casual.

00:04:55.000 It's a great...

00:04:55.000 Loose.

00:04:57.000 I feel comfortable.

00:04:58.000 It's a great thing to just...

00:04:59.000 Soft.

00:05:00.000 And to be able to make money in a hoodie is great.

00:05:02.000 Yes.

00:05:03.000 That's the cool thing about it.

00:05:04.000 Yes.

00:05:05.000 To have jeans on and go, I'm going to make money...

00:05:08.000 In a hoodie and jeans.

00:05:10.000 I think that's what John Fetterman was getting into when he went into the Congress.

00:05:13.000 That's what he was doing.

00:05:14.000 If I'm going to be rich now, I'm going to dress like what I would dress like, like Rick Rubin.

00:05:19.000 He's kind of an interesting guy now, because now he's starting to make sense, which is strange. 0.99

00:05:23.000 Yeah, what the fuck is going on? 0.96

00:05:23.000 Did the stroke knock some sense into him? 0.96

00:05:25.000 I don't know what happened, but he's actually coming out of the gate with some very rational things.

00:05:31.000 Yeah, good takes on everything.

00:05:33.000 Yeah.

00:05:34.000 Yeah, on everything.

00:05:35.000 And I'm like, if that's what Sweatpants does, let's do it.

00:05:38.000 I wonder if when he was running, he was recovering from the stroke.

00:05:43.000 And so that was why he would have those moments where his brain would sink off. 1.00

00:05:47.000 And we'd be like, this guy's fucked. 1.00

00:05:48.000 He can't be a senator. 1.00

00:05:49.000 Right.

00:05:49.000 But maybe what it really is, is it just takes a while for everything to come back.

00:05:53.000 And now it's all back.

00:05:54.000 Right.

00:05:55.000 And now he's making sense.

00:05:55.000 Because I haven't seen any of those videos since of him.

00:05:59.000 You know, there was a few videos where it was like, Me if I eat like a 500 milligram edible.

00:06:04.000 He was out of it for a period of time.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, he was gone.

00:06:07.000 He was in this place where it just didn't make sense what he was saying.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, but now he's back and it feels like, from my perspective, that the things he's saying are pretty logical.

00:06:18.000 What a crazy political move.

00:06:20.000 Yeah.

00:06:21.000 Recover from a stroke publicly.

00:06:23.000 Right.

00:06:24.000 While in the middle of a campaign.

00:06:26.000 In a sweatsuit.

00:06:27.000 Against a guy who's famous.

00:06:29.000 Right.

00:06:29.000 And still win.

00:06:30.000 And still win.

00:06:31.000 And then get progressively better and make more sense, because our guy that's the president is getting worse, and Fetterman's getting better.

00:06:42.000 I'm of the opinion, and I think you are too, that Biden doesn't exist.

00:06:47.000 It could be the first AI thing.

00:06:50.000 I think he's a living human being, don't get me wrong, but there's nothing there.

00:06:55.000 It doesn't exist.

00:06:56.000 It's not there.

00:06:57.000 I don't think there's a question about this.

00:06:59.000 Right.

00:06:59.000 So everything around him is what's supporting the country, which is kind of crazy.

00:07:03.000 Right.

00:07:04.000 It kind of shows you that the system kind of works.

00:07:06.000 Sure.

00:07:07.000 You know, when you've got a guy like that, it's a great kind of stress test to see what happens when you get a guy that's just going...

00:07:14.000 And also, how much you can gaslight people into voting for them again.

00:07:18.000 Yes.

00:07:19.000 How much you can gaslight people into voting for the people around him again is what it really is.

00:07:24.000 The people you don't even know.

00:07:25.000 Like this mysterious cabal of humans that's actually running the country.

00:07:29.000 Well, it's such a weird thing because he came out of the State of the Union.

00:07:32.000 He was pretty good, but he was heavily drugged.

00:07:38.000 You might know more than I know about certain types of things that you can do.

00:07:46.000 You've had all these doctors on and stuff.

00:07:48.000 Is there a way to make that guy...

00:07:52.000 Like that for the debates?

00:07:54.000 Is he going to be able to?

00:07:55.000 Because no, he wasn't great.

00:07:56.000 What I would recommend is I would time it correctly, right?

00:08:01.000 So I'd recommend that he got lots of sleep. 0.98

00:08:04.000 I would cut all the ice cream out of his diet for several days, all the bullshit out of his diet.

00:08:08.000 Then I would give him NAD infusions and IV vitamin infusions multiple days in a row, like three or four days in a row.

00:08:17.000 Then the day of, I would make sure that he eats really well, gets a lot of sleep, and then I would fill him up.

00:08:23.000 I'd fill him up with Adderall.

00:08:26.000 I'd give him testosterone.

00:08:28.000 I would give him human growth hormone.

00:08:30.000 I'd give him nootropics.

00:08:31.000 I'd give him Everything that we know that creatine, creatine helps with, it actually does.

00:08:38.000 No, I'm sure.

00:08:39.000 Creatine is a cognitive enhancer.

00:08:41.000 I'm thinking of him getting all these injections in that skin.

00:08:44.000 Just that purple skin from all the marks. 1.00

00:08:47.000 Oh God.

00:08:48.000 That skin that's just wound so thin.

00:08:51.000 It's spun so thin on his body.

00:08:53.000 All of the bruising from all of these needles of stuff that they need to shoot him up with to just be coherent for an hour.

00:09:00.000 Isn't it crazy, like, when Obama was president, the worst they could get on him was, remember when he wore that tan suit?

00:09:06.000 Right, right.

00:09:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:09:08.000 He never had a single moment publicly where he stumbled, where he said something really stupid. 1.00

00:09:14.000 No, this is like... 1.00

00:09:14.000 This is insane. 1.00

00:09:15.000 It's insane.

00:09:16.000 It's much worse than even, you know, remember George W. Bush?

00:09:19.000 Mm-hmm. 0.96

00:09:19.000 And he would, like, you know, say silly things. 0.96

00:09:23.000 Yeah. 0.66

00:09:24.000 This is, like, so...

00:09:27.000 Far down the road from that?

00:09:30.000 It's so far down the road.

00:09:31.000 It's so far down the road that it's like, I think it's elder abuse.

00:09:34.000 I really do.

00:09:35.000 I mean, if it was any other job, it would be elder abuse. 0.99

00:09:39.000 If there was a guy who was running the corner grocery store and his family was making him run it and he was that old and they had money, you'd be like, what the fuck are you doing to your dad? 0.98

00:09:48.000 Why are you making your dad work? 0.98

00:09:49.000 Your dad's out of it.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, why would you do...

00:09:52.000 Yeah, there was a guy in New York, this legendary guy, Dom, who ran this pizzeria called DeFares, which is widely thought of as the best pizza in New York, and he was so old, and at the very end, he was just over the pie with the oil and cutting basil,

00:10:07.000 and it was like, you felt bad, because the pie was amazing, but you're watching a guy at the end of his life, Making pizza.

00:10:17.000 Making pizza.

00:10:18.000 Very old.

00:10:18.000 And he would struggle.

00:10:20.000 He'd put it in the thing.

00:10:21.000 It was hard.

00:10:21.000 It was like you kind of gasped.

00:10:24.000 And that's what we have now, except it's with Russia. 0.99

00:10:27.000 However, if I went to a pizza place and there's a guy who loves making pizza so much that here he's fucking dying. 0.98

00:10:33.000 Right. 0.98

00:10:33.000 It's his last days. 0.98

00:10:34.000 He's still, I'm going to make you a nice pie.

00:10:36.000 Yes.

00:10:36.000 I'm going to make you a nice pie.

00:10:38.000 And he fought.

00:10:39.000 He must love the fact that his pizza is awesome.

00:10:41.000 Yes.

00:10:42.000 He loved it.

00:10:42.000 If you make good food, it's probably a lot like killing.

00:10:46.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:10:48.000 Like you kill on stage, everybody loved it.

00:10:50.000 Great, we had a great time.

00:10:51.000 Thank you.

00:10:52.000 I'm so happy you guys had fun.

00:10:53.000 You gotta wonder what the reward is for Biden.

00:10:54.000 Like, is it even fun?

00:10:56.000 It can't be fun.

00:10:57.000 It can't be fun.

00:10:57.000 Why does he even want to do this?

00:10:59.000 That guy making that pizza, when someone folds a slice of that pie and goes, oh my god.

00:11:05.000 They're into it.

00:11:06.000 It's like they're killing.

00:11:06.000 And that guy goes, I've made all of these people happy.

00:11:09.000 Yes.

00:11:10.000 But this guy, I mean, this just came out in the Wall Street Journal where they're saying that he's like showing signs like behind closed doors.

00:11:16.000 Wait!

00:11:16.000 What are you saying?

00:11:17.000 I know.

00:11:18.000 It's shocking.

00:11:18.000 This is crazy.

00:11:19.000 It's shocking.

00:11:20.000 It's what?

00:11:21.000 When President Biden met with congressional leaders in the West Wing in January to negotiate Ukraine funding deal, he spoke so softly at times that some participants struggled to hear him.

00:11:30.000 According to five people familiar with the meeting, he read from notes to make obvious points, paused for extended periods, and sometimes closed his eyes for so long that some in the room wondered whether he had tuned out.

00:11:42.000 Or died!

00:11:43.000 But they can't change him out now, right?

00:11:48.000 You and I both thought it was going to happen in May.

00:11:51.000 We were convinced.

00:11:52.000 I remember texting you.

00:11:53.000 I was convinced.

00:11:54.000 I actually heard from people that were kind of around the Trump campaign that thought they were also preparing to run against somebody who wasn't Biden.

00:12:06.000 Right.

00:12:06.000 And they had believed that.

00:12:09.000 They were like, it's going to be Newsome or somebody.

00:12:12.000 And it hasn't been.

00:12:13.000 So why, not to sound like a nut, but why are they so committed to this guy?

00:12:24.000 There's something weird about it.

00:12:25.000 There's something strange about it.

00:12:27.000 Do you think that's it?

00:12:28.000 I think he's the sitting president and they gaslit everybody into thinking he was fine, so now they would have to change course radically to justify getting him out of office.

00:12:38.000 They just published an article, I think it was in the Times, that was talking about Biden saying that his age is his superpower.

00:12:46.000 Did you see that?

00:12:47.000 Yes. 0.99

00:12:48.000 And then Seth, what's his name, the guy from the fucking Family Guy? 0.99

00:12:51.000 Seth MacFarlane. 0.96

00:12:52.000 That guy retweeted it and was like, this is an amazing, I couldn't have written this better thing.

00:12:59.000 What?

00:13:00.000 Right.

00:13:00.000 Yeah.

00:13:01.000 What?

00:13:01.000 His age is his superpower.

00:13:02.000 So you'd have to turn that back.

00:13:05.000 So you'd have to get all these people.

00:13:07.000 Do you remember when there was a whole list of...

00:13:12.000 A bunch of celebrities, they used to make videos where they would tell you what to do.

00:13:17.000 You know, what we need to do, what we need to do.

00:13:19.000 The end of democracy.

00:13:20.000 Remember the bunch of them did that before the 2016 election?

00:13:24.000 Right, yeah.

00:13:26.000 Those people, of all, you'd have to do something like that with Biden.

00:13:33.000 Well, what's interesting about Biden is they put him in, kind of, because they kind of stacked the Democratic primary.

00:13:39.000 They killed the momentum of Sanders.

00:13:42.000 And there was a lot of people.

00:13:44.000 Biden was like very behind and then sprung out at the end.

00:13:49.000 They manipulated it.

00:13:50.000 Just like they did with Hillary.

00:13:52.000 Just like Donna Brazile wrote about in her book.

00:13:55.000 They manipulated it to get him in.

00:13:58.000 And it's just weird to me that when everyone sees it so clearly and Trump is up at every poll, why they wouldn't just have him go out, give a very patriotic speech about, you know what?

00:14:10.000 I thought I could do it.

00:14:12.000 But now I can't.

00:14:14.000 I thought I was okay.

00:14:15.000 Because there's no one other than her.

00:14:18.000 So if you try to promote...

00:14:19.000 Put her in again! 1.00

00:14:20.000 If you try to promote her as president against Trump...

00:14:25.000 Democrats are going to vote for Trump.

00:14:27.000 She should lose one more time.

00:14:29.000 But she's going to lose in a way that's going to be crazy.

00:14:33.000 No, they have nobody else.

00:14:34.000 That's the other thing.

00:14:34.000 But the thing is, he should lose in a way that's crazy if you're looking at, like, competence, because he's so old.

00:14:41.000 But people will vote for him just because the machine behind him has kept the country...

00:14:46.000 It's still relatively okay.

00:14:48.000 You're still going out to dinner.

00:14:50.000 You're still taking plane flights.

00:14:52.000 For the time being.

00:14:53.000 For sure.

00:14:53.000 No aliens have landed.

00:14:54.000 Not yet.

00:14:55.000 You know, Ukraine hasn't spilled over New America.

00:14:57.000 It's all okay.

00:14:59.000 Not yet.

00:14:59.000 Kind of.

00:15:00.000 Kind of.

00:15:00.000 Right?

00:15:01.000 So you would probably, especially if you're one of those celebrities that made that video about Trump, you can't turn course now.

00:15:06.000 No.

00:15:07.000 Those people, that's out there forever.

00:15:09.000 You know?

00:15:10.000 Remember those?

00:15:12.000 There's no heaven?

00:15:13.000 Yeah.

00:15:14.000 Remember that one?

00:15:15.000 I think older people, some of them like it because they go, yeah, well, good for him.

00:15:22.000 There's a lot of older people that don't want to step down.

00:15:24.000 Like when white guys want a white heavyweight boxing champion. 0.97

00:15:27.000 That's exactly right.

00:15:28.000 And there's a lot of old people that go, I'm not going to retire.

00:15:30.000 Right.

00:15:31.000 I'm not going to step down.

00:15:32.000 I don't want to go into assisted living.

00:15:34.000 Right.

00:15:35.000 Remember Frankie?

00:15:35.000 He made that pie till the day he died.

00:15:37.000 Yeah.

00:15:38.000 Till the day he died.

00:15:38.000 He was 102 years old.

00:15:40.000 He put the basil on, dropped dead.

00:15:42.000 Yeah.

00:15:43.000 I think they want, they look at this guy and they say, good for him.

00:15:48.000 He's one of us.

00:15:49.000 There's a little bit of that going on.

00:15:50.000 He's one of us.

00:15:51.000 I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on.

00:15:53.000 I don't think that's true.

00:15:54.000 Trump will beat him, I think, from jail.

00:15:56.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:15:57.000 Trump will win.

00:15:58.000 Yeah, but I don't know if it's real.

00:16:00.000 Yeah.

00:16:00.000 I don't know.

00:16:00.000 I mean, look, I don't want to cry election fraud, but why would I imagine that they would manipulate everything openly except the election?

00:16:14.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:15.000 But this is what I'm saying to you. 0.96

00:16:17.000 Is it not possible that they haven't gone off Joe Biden because there was some fuckery? 0.97

00:16:23.000 In the last election. 0.79

00:16:25.000 Is it not possible to some degree that they have this rabid insistence on this clearly dementia-ridden guy because their promises have been made and there are people in positions of power that could speak?

00:16:42.000 I don't know anything.

00:16:43.000 I'm just...

00:16:43.000 That's a possibility.

00:16:45.000 I mean, it's just a guess, right?

00:16:46.000 Who knows?

00:16:47.000 I'm just asking the kinds of questions that people on Twitter will...

00:16:51.000 Call me a name for asking.

00:16:53.000 But you gotta stop reading that.

00:16:54.000 Yeah, true.

00:16:55.000 I don't read it.

00:16:56.000 Boy, that's a nice...

00:16:57.000 Once you break yourself free...

00:17:00.000 No, I know.

00:17:00.000 I'm not on it as much.

00:17:01.000 You feel so much better.

00:17:02.000 Lex goes into a dark hole every few days.

00:17:04.000 Well, it's, you know...

00:17:06.000 I hope he doesn't read the stuff about the Kevin Spacey interview.

00:17:08.000 Life is dark.

00:17:09.000 Oh, he's interviewing Spacey?

00:17:11.000 He already did, yeah. 0.79

00:17:12.000 Goddammit, we wanted Spacey. 0.81

00:17:14.000 You can get Spacey.

00:17:15.000 I wanted Spacey.

00:17:15.000 You can get Spacey.

00:17:17.000 I know, but then I'm the fifth person to have Spacey.

00:17:20.000 Listen, you'll be the most fun.

00:17:21.000 I know Weinstein's coming here first.

00:17:23.000 I know you're going to have him as soon as he gets out of jail.

00:17:25.000 He's never getting out of jail.

00:17:27.000 I hope he does.

00:17:28.000 I don't think he's ever getting out of jail.

00:17:30.000 By the way, he should.

00:17:31.000 Isn't he in jail for the rest of his life?

00:17:33.000 No, it's turning around, Joe.

00:17:35.000 What do you mean?

00:17:36.000 It's turning around.

00:17:37.000 What are you talking about?

00:17:38.000 Oh, you don't know.

00:17:38.000 Oh, you don't know?

00:17:39.000 What?

00:17:40.000 What's going on?

00:17:40.000 They just overturned all of his convictions.

00:17:43.000 What?

00:17:44.000 Well, get some of what I'm- What? 0.98

00:17:47.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.93

00:17:50.000 The prosecutors in the Harvey Weinstein case were encouraging the, whatever you want to call them, right? 0.98

00:17:56.000 Victims.

00:17:57.000 The victims.

00:17:57.000 And yes, they are victims.

00:17:59.000 But she was encouraging them to just, when I was a juror on a murder trial, and you're instructed as a juror, this was years ago, but you're instructed to only consider the facts of the case.

00:18:11.000 You can only discuss the facts of the case.

00:18:14.000 These victims were out there and they were permitted and encouraged by a very overzealous prosecutor to share things that weren't related to the case.

00:18:22.000 And the fact that the jury could have based their, here, here it is.

00:18:27.000 Wednesday's hearing ahead of Weinstein's retrial comes just over a month after New York Court of Appeals, by a 4-3 vote, ruled the testimony of prior bad acts.

00:18:37.000 Witnesses should not have been allowed because it was Unnecessary to establish defendants intent and served only to establish defendants propensity to commit the crimes charged He was convicted in the 2020 of first-degree criminal sexual assault and third-degree rape And then he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.

00:18:55.000 He has maintained his innocence.

00:18:57.000 So what are they saying now?

00:18:59.000 They're gonna do a retrial How old is he now? 0.96

00:19:04.000 Because he looked fucking terrible before he was going into jail. 0.97

00:19:07.000 He was walking around with a cane and a walker. 0.98

00:19:10.000 He's in his early 70s, but this is when directors do their best work.

00:19:15.000 No, truly.

00:19:16.000 But he's not a director.

00:19:17.000 Right.

00:19:18.000 Producers, whatever.

00:19:19.000 I have confidence in him is what I'm saying. 1.00

00:19:20.000 Do you think he's going to get out and kick some ass? 0.99

00:19:23.000 Well, I think he gets out. 1.00

00:19:24.000 He's got a lot to prove.

00:19:25.000 Do you think they'll let him work?

00:19:27.000 They're not even letting Stacey work.

00:19:29.000 Hollywood believes in nothing.

00:19:30.000 They will absolutely let him work.

00:19:31.000 They will let him work.

00:19:32.000 And he should work if they...

00:19:33.000 Listen, if the retrial happens and they let him and it doesn't work, it is what it is, you know?

00:19:41.000 Wow.

00:19:42.000 Imagine if he gets out. 1.00

00:19:44.000 Imagine if it was all bullshit. 1.00

00:19:46.000 Well, I don't know how... 1.00

00:19:47.000 It's like...

00:19:48.000 It couldn't be.

00:19:49.000 That time that we lived through was so...

00:19:53.000 It was this moral panic.

00:19:55.000 Oh, right.

00:19:56.000 You mean the time with me, too?

00:19:58.000 Exactly.

00:19:59.000 Everything that happened there...

00:20:02.000 What originally happened, it says here, he had a separate 16-year sentence that is not affected by this decision in California.

00:20:09.000 Oh, so there's another case which he was also sentenced to.

00:20:12.000 So the New York trial has been...

00:20:15.000 So he'll be transferred to a California prison? 1.00

00:20:18.000 Oh, he's fucked. 1.00

00:20:18.000 No matter why he's fucked. 1.00

00:20:20.000 Unless they do that one too. 0.99

00:20:21.000 So those guys, that was what they did.

00:20:23.000 But the crazy thing about him is he looked like that guy that would do that.

00:20:27.000 He looked exactly like the guy that behaved the way that he behaved.

00:20:30.000 Yes.

00:20:31.000 Yes.

00:20:31.000 Like Dave Chappelle had a bit about it.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:20:35.000 Oh, he raped. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Right. 0.99

00:20:36.000 No, for sure. 0.99

00:20:37.000 Like you look at a guy.

00:20:39.000 The other thing about him...

00:20:41.000 It's so crazy, is how many photographs of famous people were with him, and how many people thanked him when they won the award.

00:20:50.000 Of course!

00:20:51.000 And how it was this open secret, but it's just like they accepted this deal with the devil. 1.00

00:20:56.000 Like, the devil's gonna make you a star if you suck his dick, and apparently that's what he would do. 1.00

00:21:00.000 Whitney told me that there was girls that he knew, girls that she knew, rather, that did the deal. 1.00

00:21:06.000 And it was a deal. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Like, you suck his dick, he's gonna get you in this movie. 1.00

00:21:09.000 And they sucked his dick and they got in the movie. 1.00

00:21:11.000 Like, he would hold up his end of the bargain, which is one of the reasons why he was so powerful. 1.00

00:21:15.000 Because you really could.

00:21:16.000 He wasn't just banging everybody.

00:21:18.000 He really was.

00:21:18.000 Well, let's say this, though.

00:21:20.000 Making people famous.

00:21:21.000 We think that's negative.

00:21:23.000 But let's say him upholding his end of the deal is something.

00:21:27.000 It's a little something.

00:21:27.000 Like, if he puts you in the movie...

00:21:30.000 I think a lot of these...

00:21:31.000 By the way, all of the famous people he did it to didn't really come out against him.

00:21:36.000 No, because they can't.

00:21:37.000 Because then if they tell the truth...

00:21:39.000 Yeah.

00:21:40.000 They were kind of...

00:21:40.000 Because that was kind of a deal that was made.

00:21:42.000 Not good, but that was a deal.

00:21:44.000 And he made good on some of those promises.

00:21:48.000 He made good on a lot of them, apparently.

00:21:50.000 This is just from what I heard.

00:21:51.000 But Tarantino was telling us about this old-school Hollywood producer who had a bedroom in his office.

00:21:58.000 Sure.

00:21:59.000 So you would go into his office, and this is in the 60s or whatever.

00:22:03.000 So he had his office, and then he had a whole bedroom in his studio where he would bang all the starlets.

00:22:10.000 If you wanted to be a star, you had to bang that guy.

00:22:13.000 Which is just the deal with the devil that has always been that business.

00:22:16.000 That's always been there.

00:22:17.000 That's always been there.

00:22:18.000 It's like why people start cults.

00:22:21.000 Yeah.

00:22:21.000 They always end up being sex cults, right?

00:22:24.000 100% of the time. 0.71

00:22:25.000 All of these guys on Netflix, it ends up being creepy and sexual.

00:22:29.000 Yep.

00:22:29.000 All of them.

00:22:30.000 That's part of it.

00:22:30.000 And I think if you have that kind of power and people, and you've got a steady stream of people walking in your door.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, and you're also doing this very specific thing where you're choosing the most beautiful people to be in these incredible, incredible films.

00:22:48.000 Right. 0.99

00:22:48.000 I mean, think about the movies that fucking guy made. 0.99

00:22:51.000 Kill Bill. 1.00

00:22:52.000 Some of the best in the world.

00:22:53.000 Pulp Fiction.

00:22:54.000 You just go down the line.

00:22:55.000 Let him out.

00:22:56.000 So many times I've seen a movie.

00:22:58.000 Oh, Miramax, of course.

00:22:59.000 Yeah.

00:22:59.000 They made insane movies.

00:23:01.000 They were like, the Weinstein Company, they were the best.

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.000 Some of the best.

00:23:05.000 And they just did it with the devil.

00:23:08.000 They did it with the devil.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, they did it with the devil.

00:23:11.000 You know, you watch an old Woody Allen movie, you go, I don't know if he's guilty.

00:23:14.000 I don't know what happened.

00:23:16.000 I go, I don't want to believe he's guilty, but can I still enjoy the movie or not?

00:23:20.000 And then some of them...

00:23:21.000 It is a little different.

00:23:22.000 You watch it and you go, it is.

00:23:24.000 I hope he's not guilty, but there's a good chance he's guilty.

00:23:29.000 And there's a documentary that's...

00:23:32.000 All of it's not good.

00:23:33.000 All of it's not good.

00:23:34.000 I mean, even if it's like your neighbor's daughter and you've known her since she was two.

00:23:41.000 And then you wind up marrying her.

00:23:42.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:23:44.000 It's not great.

00:23:44.000 If you were an adult with children and your neighbor had a...

00:23:48.000 But then again, part of your brain goes, okay, but what if you really were in love?

00:23:54.000 What if she really was the next door neighbor and really you were 60 and she was 30 and she loved you?

00:24:00.000 Right.

00:24:01.000 Or if your wife had adopted her from Cambodia.

00:24:04.000 That makes it more complicated.

00:24:05.000 And you raised her, but loved her still.

00:24:08.000 That's the next level.

00:24:09.000 That is not ideal.

00:24:11.000 That, you can't.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, we'll say that.

00:24:13.000 It's not ideal.

00:24:15.000 You can look at the neighbor and say, well, maybe you weren't close with the neighbor's daughter.

00:24:19.000 Now she's a grown woman.

00:24:21.000 She has agency.

00:24:22.000 She's a woman. 0.82

00:24:22.000 She loves you. 0.82

00:24:23.000 But you know what's But you can't say that about a kid that you fucking raised. 1.00

00:24:27.000 You can't marry a kid you raised. 1.00

00:24:29.000 No!

00:24:30.000 You can't marry a kid you raised.

00:24:31.000 But did he raise her?

00:24:33.000 Did he see her like every couple days?

00:24:35.000 I don't know.

00:24:36.000 However we can still watch Annie Hall.

00:24:39.000 I can't!

00:24:39.000 Is there any way to still watch Annie Hall?

00:24:43.000 No.

00:24:43.000 I don't know.

00:24:44.000 Probably not.

00:24:45.000 It's hard.

00:24:45.000 You can, but you're gonna know the whole time.

00:24:48.000 It's like watching House of Cards.

00:24:50.000 Yeah, but I can watch House of Cards because he's playing the guy he was.

00:24:55.000 Right.

00:24:55.000 That's perfect.

00:24:56.000 I like that.

00:24:57.000 Kevin Spacey doesn't even exist.

00:24:59.000 He's barely a person.

00:25:00.000 He's such a good actor.

00:25:01.000 He's become the thing.

00:25:03.000 He always plays people kind of like that.

00:25:06.000 Kaiser Soze.

00:25:08.000 You know Frank Underwood, he's become the thing and he's so good at it that it doesn't ruin it for me.

00:25:14.000 I can watch House of Cards.

00:25:16.000 There is an arrogance that some stars had like particularly in the 90s when I first came to Hollywood and this is like really evident for me because I was not a star but I was on a television show so I got to be around a lot of stars and there was a way that some of them would treat you They would let you know that you are subhuman.

00:25:39.000 You are below them.

00:25:41.000 They would communicate with you in the most disrespectful and dismissive ways.

00:25:46.000 Like weird. 0.99

00:25:47.000 Fucking weird. 1.00

00:25:48.000 Like mousy guys that I could kill. 1.00

00:25:52.000 Like instantly. 0.99

00:25:54.000 And they would just be rude to you in a really weird way because they had power.

00:25:59.000 And then when an executive would come over, they would turn on the charm. 0.99

00:26:03.000 They'd be smiling and laughing and then you would talk to them at the craft service and they would fucking dismiss you in the shittiest ways. 0.99

00:26:10.000 I encountered a bunch of that. 0.99

00:26:13.000 It was commonplace.

00:26:15.000 And it was, I think, a thing that they aspired to.

00:26:19.000 Especially a lot of the guys that came from Saturday Night Live.

00:26:22.000 Like, when Phil came over from Saturday Night Live, Phil Hartman, when he was on news radio, that was the first thing he did after Saturday Night Live, and he had, like, his defenses up. 0.60

00:26:32.000 Like, I remember, he was, like, a little, like, standoffish in the beginning, kind of shitty to us.

00:26:37.000 Like, he was the big star, and he was.

00:26:39.000 And, you know, Dave Foley was a pretty big star, too.

00:26:41.000 And the rest of us were kind of—no one really knew who we were.

00:26:45.000 And after a while, he'd relax, and he would tell me about it.

00:26:48.000 And he was like, you know, it's great here.

00:26:50.000 We all have fun.

00:26:51.000 But God, on Saturday Night Live, everybody was stabbing everybody in the back. 0.99

00:26:54.000 And it was all, oh, everybody was, people were getting people fired that were like his assistants just because they wanted to fuck him over. 0.99

00:27:02.000 They would steal people's things. 0.99

00:27:04.000 And it was just like really shitty.

00:27:06.000 And it took a while for him to chill out.

00:27:08.000 And then I got to meet some of those people that he was talking about and interact with them.

00:27:12.000 And they did the same thing to me. 0.99

00:27:13.000 There was some shitty fucking people out of that. 1.00

00:27:16.000 This star culture. 1.00

00:27:20.000 And they would be the ones that were the royalty and everyone else was a peasant. 0.99

00:27:24.000 It was really fucking creepy. 0.96

00:27:26.000 Interesting. 0.99

00:27:27.000 So I think if you're like an old school dick grabber and you're also a Hollywood icon, you probably are doing that. 0.95

00:27:37.000 You're probably doing that Hollywood thing where everybody else is just there for you. 0.96

00:27:43.000 Everybody else is just...

00:27:44.000 Should we maybe wall off...

00:27:47.000 Hollywood and just go, listen.

00:27:49.000 Let them go wild. 1.00

00:27:50.000 They're just all sexual predators. 1.00

00:27:52.000 Jurassic Park. 0.99

00:27:53.000 It's Jurassic Park.

00:27:54.000 Can't we do that?

00:27:55.000 Can't we say, enter at your own risk.

00:27:58.000 They make great movies, but occasionally they're going to goose you.

00:28:02.000 They may throw you against a wall.

00:28:04.000 Yeah.

00:28:05.000 I mean, if you train for the Navy SEALs, some people drown.

00:28:08.000 Yeah.

00:28:11.000 Can't we just do that because the other way is it working where everyone's nice and good.

00:28:16.000 Everyone can't be nice and good and have really good art.

00:28:21.000 I don't think.

00:28:23.000 I'm not saying everyone has to be killing everyone.

00:28:25.000 No.

00:28:25.000 I mean, Ron Howard seems to be really nice and good.

00:28:28.000 But I watched the Spacey documentary, by the way, and some of it is like, okay, he clearly did the wrong thing. 0.96

00:28:33.000 And then some of it, these guys are like, because they wanted things from him, they're like, we went to the movies, and he started jerking off next to me. 0.87

00:28:40.000 It's like, okay, dude, well, then you know this is not a guy to hang with.

00:28:44.000 And then the next thing they say is, and then he invited me to a party at his hotel, and he said Bruce Willis would be there.

00:28:50.000 So I went.

00:28:53.000 We can't feel bad for you because you're trying to climb on the basis of knowing this guy.

00:29:00.000 You are playing the game.

00:29:02.000 That's right.

00:29:03.000 You're playing the game.

00:29:04.000 You're playing the game.

00:29:05.000 You're dancing with the devil.

00:29:06.000 You're dancing with the devil.

00:29:07.000 You're going to lunch with Harvey.

00:29:08.000 You're going to lunch with Harvey.

00:29:08.000 You want it.

00:29:10.000 You know, so to me, it's like they're not sympathetic in the way that, like, you know, other people are, whether it's sexual assault in the military or in the workplace or whatever, where people are not actively trying to better their chances of being famous by knowing this culture.

00:29:29.000 Guy.

00:29:29.000 Right.

00:29:30.000 It's a complicated thing with Spacey, right?

00:29:32.000 Because apparently some of the alleged people are like people that he worked like, you know, like a grip on a set or a guy who has to drive him.

00:29:40.000 Yeah.

00:29:41.000 He was just wild.

00:29:42.000 Apparently.

00:29:43.000 Yes.

00:29:43.000 This is allegedly.

00:29:45.000 Right.

00:29:45.000 And then some of those people died before they could testify.

00:29:49.000 Do you think you can play a guy like Frank Underwood if there's not a little bit of that inside of you somewhere?

00:29:56.000 No.

00:29:56.000 Probably not.

00:29:59.000 Probably not.

00:30:01.000 You know he had a really rough life.

00:30:03.000 Did he? 0.99

00:30:03.000 And you know his father was a Nazi pedophile. 0.99

00:30:06.000 Oh my god. 0.99

00:30:07.000 This is true.

00:30:08.000 Oh my god.

00:30:09.000 And his father was all of Twitter. 0.99

00:30:11.000 But no, he was a Nazi pedophile. 1.00

00:30:14.000 He would rape them and make them watch the Nazi stuff. 0.99

00:30:18.000 I know I sound like I'm lying a lot, and I am a lot, but this is true. 0.98

00:30:21.000 You can look this up.

00:30:22.000 Oh, God.

00:30:22.000 His brother is a Rod Stewart impersonator.

00:30:25.000 Oh, God.

00:30:26.000 It wasn't great the way that it went for anybody over there.

00:30:30.000 Jesus Christ.

00:30:31.000 According to Kevin Spacey, he was raised by a relentlessly abusive neo-Nazi father.

00:30:35.000 Wow.

00:30:37.000 Spends dinners making anti-semitic comments, which terrified his children.

00:30:40.000 Wow. 0.99

00:30:41.000 Yes, and worse than beating and raping them, he was anti-semitic. 1.00

00:30:44.000 Wow. 1.00

00:30:44.000 So he was really bad. 1.00

00:30:46.000 Does that say that in here? 0.74

00:30:47.000 The raping part? 0.70

00:30:49.000 I believe, from what I know... 0.96

00:30:52.000 That's his brother?

00:30:53.000 The Rod Stewart impression?

00:30:54.000 That he was a very abusive... 1.00

00:30:55.000 Damn, the brother was fucking... 1.00

00:30:56.000 Got it nailed. 1.00

00:30:57.000 The brother is really dialed.

00:30:59.000 Boy, if I saw that dude...

00:31:00.000 Yeah, no.

00:31:01.000 He's dialed. 0.98

00:31:02.000 Yeah, if I was like somewhere, I'd be like, holy shit, Rod Stewart? 0.99

00:31:05.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:31:06.000 He alleges his father frequently raped and beat him. 0.97

00:31:08.000 I mean, I'm not making it up. 0.97

00:31:09.000 It's terrible. 0.99

00:31:09.000 Frequently raped and beat him. 0.99

00:31:11.000 Oh, why didn't they put that in the title? 0.98

00:31:13.000 Like, just the anti-Semitic comments, that seems like the least of the problems.

00:31:18.000 For the way they grew up, let's be charitable, they turned out good.

00:31:23.000 Right.

00:31:24.000 They turned out well.

00:31:25.000 The guy won multiple Academy Awards.

00:31:27.000 He's a very talented man, and his brother, I'm sure, does a great Maggie Mae.

00:31:33.000 Yeah.

00:31:33.000 For the way they were raised.

00:31:34.000 Everybody has to be judged a little bit with a backstory.

00:31:38.000 I love that Lex Friedman has the courage to interview anybody.

00:31:43.000 Well, Lex is one of those guys who genuinely is like, you know, he knows what his intentions are.

00:31:49.000 Yes.

00:31:50.000 And he's very comfortable with himself.

00:31:51.000 And that's why he can talk to all these people.

00:31:54.000 Yeah.

00:31:54.000 Because he's always coming from a good place.

00:31:56.000 Even Kanye, in the heat of everything, Lex had him on.

00:31:59.000 Yeah.

00:32:01.000 Bill Maher did a whole episode and said I'm not releasing it.

00:32:04.000 That's crazy.

00:32:05.000 That's crazy.

00:32:08.000 I can't wait.

00:32:09.000 Kanye, Spacey.

00:32:10.000 Can we do an election?

00:32:12.000 Because there's going to be an election.

00:32:14.000 I'm angling to get back in here with Kanye and Spacey and Weinstein from jail.

00:32:19.000 I would get you in here with Kanye, but it would probably turn bad because you talk too much.

00:32:23.000 I know.

00:32:24.000 With Kanye, you've got to let him talk.

00:32:26.000 I know.

00:32:26.000 Because there was moments where I was talking.

00:32:28.000 I let him talk.

00:32:28.000 There was moments where I was talking and Kanye was like...

00:32:33.000 He has so much to say. 1.00

00:32:35.000 I mean, listen, that madness inside of him is why his fucking songs are bangers. 0.99

00:32:40.000 They're just banger after banger. 1.00

00:32:42.000 His fucking new album's amazing. 1.00

00:32:44.000 It's amazing, dude. 1.00

00:32:45.000 We play in the green room all the time.

00:32:47.000 In all my Spotify playlists, I think there's more Kanye songs than anything.

00:32:53.000 He's a genius.

00:32:54.000 And what you have to realize with people that are incredibly gifted is a lot of that comes with some real downsides.

00:33:03.000 Yeah!

00:33:04.000 And they can't be judged maybe the same way you judge every other person.

00:33:07.000 Well, I mean, they gotta follow the laws.

00:33:10.000 You can't be out there murdering people.

00:33:12.000 They can't do that.

00:33:13.000 They gotta follow the laws.

00:33:14.000 But if he goes and says something crazy, it's also like you gotta look at what you've gotten from him and all of this great music.

00:33:22.000 Let him have a tirade every now and then.

00:33:24.000 Let's let him have a little...

00:33:25.000 Well, it's like he's his own enemy.

00:33:28.000 Yeah.

00:33:28.000 It's just like he can't...

00:33:29.000 The rants just go.

00:33:31.000 I know.

00:33:31.000 They just come flying out and who knows how much of it he's really been committed to until he says it.

00:33:36.000 And then once he's saying it, then he's really committed.

00:33:39.000 You know, and then, you know, he puts...

00:33:41.000 He shows up statistics.

00:33:43.000 Like, he held up this thing about...

00:33:45.000 He was showing on his phone all of the different people that are running all the different music companies and how many of them are Jewish.

00:33:53.000 Right.

00:33:54.000 You know, he's like, they run the media, they run this, they run that.

00:33:57.000 Like, okay.

00:33:58.000 Right.

00:33:59.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 I mean, what are you going to say about that?

00:34:02.000 If they are facts, if these people are all Jewish. 0.71

00:34:06.000 But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing something evil.

00:34:08.000 Just, you know, if you buy pizza, a lot of the people selling it are Italian.

00:34:13.000 I will say that the Jews seem to have made better choices than the Irish, my people. 0.64

00:34:18.000 Well, they're really good at running show business.

00:34:21.000 Yeah, I can't point to any list of people and go, and they're all, there's not one group, and go, and look, and McDonough, and O'Brien.

00:34:30.000 Right, right, like Italians, like my people, other than food.

00:34:34.000 Someone said, a teacher I had in community college, you take it with a grain of salt, but said that Italians were We're very focused on the family, and they were skeptical of institutions, so they started small businesses, whereas Jewish people were more open to institutions,

00:34:51.000 and that's why a lot of them are overrepresented in academia, politics, and media.

00:34:56.000 Well, Italians are fleeing communism, too.

00:34:59.000 Right.

00:34:59.000 So Italians are skeptical of the government.

00:35:01.000 They were skeptical.

00:35:02.000 And they wanted to have their little pork stores and stuff.

00:35:05.000 And that's good.

00:35:06.000 And it's also Catholic, very family-oriented.

00:35:09.000 Catholic, all that.

00:35:09.000 You know, if you date an Italian girl, you've got to meet everybody.

00:35:12.000 That's right.

00:35:12.000 You can't be just showing up at her house like some regular white guy.

00:35:16.000 And the Irish were drunks and sexually abused. 1.00

00:35:20.000 A little bit. 0.99

00:35:21.000 And they did the best they could.

00:35:24.000 Everyone's doing the best they can.

00:35:26.000 Well, we're all coming out of chaos. 0.99

00:35:28.000 The reality of human beings in this country is this fucking country is three peoples old. 0.99

00:35:33.000 That's it. 0.99

00:35:34.000 Three people.

00:35:35.000 That's crazy to think about.

00:35:36.000 Three people.

00:35:38.000 That's the reality of this country.

00:35:40.000 China is 400 people old.

00:35:42.000 Right.

00:35:44.000 That's real.

00:35:46.000 That's the difference. 0.99

00:35:48.000 We don't have our shit together yet. 0.98

00:35:50.000 And we started off with a really good idea that didn't anticipate technology. 0.98

00:35:55.000 And then technology got involved in terms of stock trading, And then influences of campaigns.

00:36:02.000 Nobody anticipated the lobbyists, special interest groups.

00:36:06.000 Nobody anticipated the military-industrial complex until Eisenhower talked about it on TV. Just all these things got in the way of the original idea.

00:36:14.000 They had a great fucking idea of how to make sure that no one ever becomes a dictator and that the will of the people gets served. 0.94

00:36:20.000 They had a great idea. 0.99

00:36:21.000 And now they have an idea where everyone can kind of be a dictator.

00:36:25.000 So that's not the worst idea.

00:36:26.000 You can be a little dictator.

00:36:28.000 Well, what they really didn't anticipate is the power that technology companies have.

00:36:32.000 Yeah.

00:36:33.000 They own your thoughts, dreams, hopes, fears.

00:36:37.000 They have burrowed into your life more than any of the robber barons could, more than any of those guys.

00:36:44.000 Morgan or Rockefeller, Carnegie.

00:36:46.000 They've gotten insanely wealthy just from your data.

00:36:48.000 Absolutely.

00:36:49.000 And then convincing you you have to buy a new phone every year.

00:36:52.000 Yeah.

00:36:52.000 And they're helping you.

00:36:54.000 And that's the scary part, right?

00:36:56.000 They're utopians, and they believe they're creating a truly better world.

00:36:59.000 And they're helping you.

00:37:00.000 It makes your life better.

00:37:01.000 And they're making your life better, and you do, and these are things that make your life more convenient and easier.

00:37:05.000 How great is Google Maps or Waze?

00:37:07.000 So when they tell you it's more convenient to just not have this discussion or not be able to say a certain term or not be able to, then you just comply.

00:37:18.000 You comply and you go, okay.

00:37:19.000 I don't want to start any trouble.

00:37:20.000 I don't want to start an issue.

00:37:21.000 I like Postmates or whatever it is.

00:37:25.000 I like Airbnb.

00:37:28.000 Well, sure.

00:37:31.000 Well, it's failing now.

00:37:32.000 It's over now.

00:37:33.000 It's all over now.

00:37:35.000 I met one of the guys.

00:37:37.000 Well, someone, I don't know if it was you, but someone said, and this is really nice, someone tried to get me back, and they were like, no.

00:37:43.000 Someone met a big guy, and it might have been you.

00:37:45.000 I think it was me.

00:37:46.000 Yeah, somebody was like, what about getting a guy like Tim Dillon back on, and they were like, no. 0.99

00:37:50.000 They're fucking up. 0.98

00:37:51.000 They're making a big mistake. 1.00

00:37:52.000 Well, that issue that I had was all about the redundancy of cleaning fees.

00:37:56.000 Why would I pay a fee and then clean?

00:37:58.000 This has now become a rallying call for millions of brave Americans to hold Airbnb accountable for what they've been doing.

00:38:10.000 Forget the trafficking, people showing up to the house in the middle of the night trying to rip you out of it.

00:38:16.000 This is true.

00:38:17.000 Single women go on bachelorette parties all the time. 1.00

00:38:19.000 Guys knock on the door at 3am.

00:38:20.000 It's not safe.

00:38:21.000 A lot of the people who host, like have Airbnbs, have weird cameras set up.

00:38:26.000 It's a little voyeuristic.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, there's been a bunch of that.

00:38:28.000 It is strange.

00:38:30.000 Also, someone had an interesting scam where they were renting a house and they were using that house as an Airbnb house.

00:38:36.000 Of course.

00:38:37.000 And they got in trouble.

00:38:38.000 They're probably making money off of the rental.

00:38:40.000 That's right.

00:38:40.000 You think about how much a house costs to rent, if it's like $2,000 a month, and you could Airbnb it for $500 a night.

00:38:47.000 Yes.

00:38:47.000 What's Airbnb cost?

00:38:49.000 For a house.

00:38:51.000 Back in the day.

00:38:52.000 It's about $400, something like that.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, so you'd probably make a lot of money.

00:38:57.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.

00:38:58.000 You'd pay your mortgage easy, and then you could do that with multiple houses, and you've got income constantly coming in.

00:39:02.000 And I think they interviewed the CEO recently.

00:39:04.000 They interviewed him, and he was basically like, listen, we're trying to design your trips.

00:39:08.000 Like, they're trying to figure out ways.

00:39:10.000 To get competitive again.

00:39:11.000 Because they're like, we know people are going back to hotels.

00:39:14.000 We know it's gotten too expensive.

00:39:16.000 Is that what it is?

00:39:17.000 Yeah, it's gotten too expensive.

00:39:18.000 People are like, we don't understand why we'd pay all of this money To have all of these rules, when we could just go to a hotel, it's easy.

00:39:29.000 Right.

00:39:29.000 And we don't have to worry about anger.

00:39:32.000 You get a report card.

00:39:33.000 Airbnb's a report card.

00:39:34.000 Nobody wants that on a trip.

00:39:36.000 You get a report card for how good you did or bad you did?

00:39:38.000 Yeah, people writing reviews about you.

00:39:41.000 Is that fun? 0.98

00:39:41.000 You go on a vacation, somebody's going to write a review, some psychopath. 0.98

00:39:44.000 Oh, so you could take a giant shit and forget to flush it, and then... 1.00

00:39:49.000 It's over. 1.00

00:39:50.000 Then they trash you.

00:39:51.000 Just a simple mistake.

00:39:52.000 A simple mistake.

00:39:53.000 And stay out of people's homes. 0.99

00:39:56.000 This is the real reality.

00:39:58.000 Stay out of people.

00:39:59.000 If you're over 30, you can no longer stay with people.

00:40:03.000 Put it this way.

00:40:04.000 Let's give them till 35 or 40. You have to get a hotel.

00:40:07.000 You can't get a hotel.

00:40:09.000 You cannot stay with a friend.

00:40:11.000 And you don't need to get an Airbnb with seven people.

00:40:14.000 Yeah, I always get weirded out when people like to just stay with different friends in every town.

00:40:18.000 I'm like, do you like being annoying?

00:40:19.000 Yeah, that's done now.

00:40:21.000 You can't stay with anyone anymore.

00:40:23.000 You go to a hotel.

00:40:25.000 That's nice.

00:40:25.000 Like an adult.

00:40:26.000 It's like an adult.

00:40:27.000 You go, this was nice.

00:40:28.000 Goodbye.

00:40:28.000 You need to say the word goodbye.

00:40:31.000 And then you got to go to a hotel.

00:40:33.000 Otherwise, people are like, they feel uncomfortable in their own home.

00:40:36.000 They do not want you there.

00:40:38.000 It's kind of crazy that Airbnb, that's another thing that popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming.

00:40:42.000 That was a disruptor.

00:40:43.000 That and Uber, right?

00:40:44.000 Yeah.

00:40:45.000 Uber was a big one.

00:40:46.000 No one would have thought that everybody would become a cab driver for extra money.

00:40:50.000 Well, it coincided with this rise of the gig economy where people are like, I can work.

00:40:56.000 I own a car.

00:40:57.000 I can work.

00:40:58.000 And I can make money through this app.

00:41:01.000 But you cannot have a boss.

00:41:03.000 A boss.

00:41:03.000 Exactly.

00:41:04.000 One of the things I loved about delivering newspapers when I was a kid...

00:41:08.000 I did it when I was in my teens and 20s.

00:41:13.000 You could just go to the place, pick up the paper.

00:41:16.000 You did your work, but you could listen to the radio.

00:41:18.000 No one's in your ear.

00:41:19.000 No one's talking to you.

00:41:20.000 You're by yourself.

00:41:21.000 As long as you get your job done, you're good.

00:41:23.000 And if you're an Uber guy... 0.99

00:41:27.000 I don't have to go to a fucking office somewhere. 0.99

00:41:29.000 I just pick this dude up and take him to the airport. 0.99

00:41:31.000 Oh yeah, it's perfect.

00:41:32.000 Thank you.

00:41:32.000 Thanks for the tip.

00:41:33.000 Bye.

00:41:33.000 Easy.

00:41:33.000 Drive away.

00:41:34.000 Be a nice guy.

00:41:36.000 Try to keep your car clean.

00:41:37.000 That's right.

00:41:37.000 You can make money.

00:41:38.000 And you don't have to listen to anybody.

00:41:40.000 And they're having fun.

00:41:41.000 Some of those guys are having fun all day.

00:41:42.000 Listening to hateful podcasts.

00:41:44.000 Me!

00:41:44.000 Listen to this.

00:41:45.000 Listening to smoking cigs in their car.

00:41:47.000 People listening to this right now.

00:41:48.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 People listening to it right now going, I'm enjoying my life.

00:41:51.000 I'm having fun. 1.00

00:41:52.000 Somewhere there's someone in the backseat going, fucking Tim Dillon, shut up. 1.00

00:41:55.000 Yeah, shut up. 1.00

00:41:56.000 I hate his stupid voice. 1.00

00:41:56.000 What he did to Meghan McCain was so rude. 1.00

00:41:58.000 What he did to all of these people, all of these innocent people.

00:42:01.000 So rude. 0.99

00:42:02.000 So fucking rude. 1.00

00:42:04.000 Innocent, good, billionaire. 0.99

00:42:05.000 Speaking of innocent, did you see Fauci?

00:42:06.000 Did you see the...

00:42:07.000 When he came out?

00:42:08.000 Did you see the...

00:42:09.000 The leaked tapes?

00:42:11.000 Oh, not just the leaked tapes, but him getting grilled?

00:42:14.000 Oh, I didn't see it.

00:42:15.000 Oh my God.

00:42:17.000 Was it bad?

00:42:17.000 Was it brutal?

00:42:18.000 It's horrible.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, I think Jim Jordan got him lying under oath.

00:42:23.000 No matter what they catch him with, he tries to find a way to weasel out of saying that he said that, including mandating masks, shutting down schools, locking everything down, closing businesses, forcing people to get the vaccine.

00:42:37.000 All of it is on tape.

00:42:38.000 He said all of it.

00:42:39.000 It seems to be, again, it's the gaslighting thing where people go, We can just now come out and say that we never actually said any of that.

00:42:47.000 It's crazy him saying that, though.

00:42:49.000 Not just saying that, but even when they catch him saying that, that's not what I was referring to.

00:42:54.000 That's exactly what you were referring to.

00:42:56.000 There's no ambiguity at all about any of the things you're saying.

00:43:00.000 And then also the gain-of-function research.

00:43:02.000 They deleted a bunch of emails.

00:43:03.000 There's all these emails from his assistant talking about...

00:43:07.000 How to go in separate channels to talk about this stuff and how to skirt around the Freedom of Information Act.

00:43:12.000 Right. 0.97

00:43:13.000 And then fucking Peter Hotez talking about deleting emails. 0.99

00:43:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:17.000 They all knew what the fuck they were doing, man. 0.99

00:43:19.000 No. 0.99

00:43:20.000 They were all very aware that they were going to be investigated eventually.

00:43:23.000 There should be a commission on this whole thing, but just like the 9-11 Commission would probably be set up to fail, and that's what the commissioner said.

00:43:31.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:43:32.000 Even if Trump gets into office, how could it be?

00:43:34.000 Because he was the guy.

00:43:36.000 He put warp speed in place.

00:43:39.000 That's right.

00:43:39.000 Fauci was behind him at press conferences.

00:43:41.000 I think that's his biggest vulnerability, ironically, Trump, is that A lot of people don't trust him because of that period.

00:43:52.000 Well, he has a vaccine.

00:43:54.000 He hasn't corrected course.

00:43:56.000 Right.

00:43:57.000 Because it's very difficult for him to ever say that he's wrong, right?

00:44:00.000 He doesn't like saying he's wrong.

00:44:01.000 So for him to correct course, for him to look at the studies that are coming out of the UK and Europe about excess deaths and where they're a little bit more honest about what the fuck is going on because they have socialized medicine.

00:44:11.000 Right. 0.71

00:44:11.000 Like there's a lot more going on over there than is going on over here. 0.71

00:44:14.000 There's so much about protecting pharma here.

00:44:17.000 Yeah, so much money.

00:44:19.000 I mean, so much money invested in advertising. 0.96

00:44:23.000 I mean, everything gets advertised by it, whether it's internet shows, there's fucking so many television shows. 0.99

00:44:32.000 I mean, that montage, I'm sure you've seen it, brought to you by Pfizer, the CNN one, that's fucking nuts, man. 0.99

00:44:39.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:44:39.000 It's nuts. 1.00

00:44:41.000 There's so much money involved in this. 1.00

00:44:44.000 These people just keep their fucking mouth shut because these people aren't real journalists on television. 0.99

00:44:49.000 You see that when Chris Cuomo has to debate Dave Smith. 1.00

00:44:52.000 What they are is mouthpieces for whatever the fuck is the network. 0.99

00:44:56.000 They're actors. 0.99

00:44:57.000 And they think they're journalists, which is hilarious.

00:45:03.000 Elon Musk sat down with Don Lemon.

00:45:05.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 Elon said it best, rather.

00:45:09.000 He said, Don is doing CNN outside of CNN. Right.

00:45:12.000 That's what he thinks talking to people is.

00:45:15.000 Yeah.

00:45:15.000 No, they're actors, they're showpieces, and they're mouthpieces for usually corporate America and quite often whatever party makes corporate America feel cozy at the moment.

00:45:28.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 Yeah, it's a bizarre, bizarre merging of commerce and the news.

00:45:34.000 That's another thing no one saw common, right?

00:45:37.000 The Founding Fathers, they never saw that level of propaganda being possible, that you would have funded propaganda that was working step by step with the government.

00:45:48.000 It's gotten to be...

00:45:50.000 But you know what?

00:45:51.000 Watching it fall apart over the last few years has been really interesting.

00:45:56.000 Because it is falling apart.

00:45:58.000 Oh, well, it has to.

00:45:59.000 You are watching these guys and you go, they are convincing nobody.

00:46:03.000 I mean, I'm sure they're still convincing some people, but most free-thinking people, most people that don't have an investment in it are looking at it.

00:46:12.000 It feels fake.

00:46:14.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 It all feels fake.

00:46:16.000 I think people are starting to question it more than they ever have.

00:46:20.000 I don't think the government will ever fully recover from the pandemic in terms of trust levels with all those kids who had to do proms in a car or wear masks jogging on a track.

00:46:34.000 I don't think those kids ever look at the government the same way and that's probably good.

00:46:39.000 It's good.

00:46:39.000 I think that's good.

00:46:40.000 It's good.

00:46:41.000 And the thing is, like, young kids are paying attention to what is going on now in a way that they know that it's going to affect their life. 1.00

00:46:49.000 They pay attention to the government like, these fucking idiots, they're going to affect my life. 1.00

00:46:53.000 Because they affected their life. 1.00

00:46:55.000 That's right.

00:46:55.000 And they did it to their parents.

00:46:56.000 Like, how many of these young kids saw parents lose jobs, saw divorces happen, suicides in the family, breakups, drug addiction? 0.98

00:47:04.000 So many fucking things happened that didn't have to happen that were brought on because of the lockdowns and because of the pandemic and the government's mandating things. 0.96

00:47:13.000 And how many people did they know that got health problems because of the vaccine? 0.99

00:47:16.000 How many people did they know died young?

00:47:19.000 Everybody knows something.

00:47:21.000 No, and I think they're more likely now to have a skeptical view of the government.

00:47:25.000 Which is good.

00:47:25.000 And I think they understand more probably the value of...

00:47:29.000 Now, I don't know if they're going to understand this in every area, but what propaganda is, how it kind of functions, and how to...

00:47:37.000 Be aware and cognizant of the fact that there are people that are shaping and sculpting the narrative and shoving it down your throat.

00:47:46.000 I think there's more people now questioning things, especially young kids, Are questioning stuff about the war machine and the war economy more than they ever have before and going like, what is, why are we involved here?

00:48:02.000 And why are we funding this?

00:48:03.000 And why are we doing that?

00:48:05.000 And I think people are, and that doesn't mean they're sloppy, obviously.

00:48:09.000 They're not getting everything right, but they're out there.

00:48:13.000 And they're also being heavily manipulated.

00:48:15.000 Yeah.

00:48:16.000 Which is, you know, something that's been discussed with a bunch of people on the show.

00:48:20.000 We talked about, like, You know, with Gadsad in particular.

00:48:24.000 Like, who is behind all these protests at the universities?

00:48:28.000 Like, they're organized.

00:48:29.000 Sure.

00:48:29.000 And they're organized by Soros-funded groups and a bunch of different groups that they organize these things to get a narrative very popular.

00:48:39.000 Yes.

00:48:40.000 You know?

00:48:40.000 And that it's all—the whole thing is just disruptive.

00:48:45.000 That's the key.

00:48:46.000 The key is to get people upset.

00:48:48.000 Right.

00:48:48.000 To keep people disrupted.

00:48:50.000 Right.

00:48:50.000 And to further erode our idea that we have any kind of control whatsoever about what goes on.

00:48:56.000 I went to one of those protests at UCLA. How was it?

00:48:59.000 It was fun, you know?

00:49:02.000 It's young people.

00:49:04.000 They're trying to enjoy themselves.

00:49:06.000 Is that what it was?

00:49:07.000 It kind of felt like that.

00:49:09.000 Like a little festive?

00:49:10.000 It didn't feel like Hamas had taken over the college.

00:49:14.000 Like, I know that...

00:49:16.000 It felt like there were people there that were clearly probably pro-Hamas, right? 0.88

00:49:23.000 As a, whatever you want to call them, as a group.

00:49:26.000 Right.

00:49:26.000 But then it felt like there was a lot of kids there that just saw what was going on in Gaza and they were like, we are against America funding that.

00:49:37.000 And they went out to do that and they wanted to, in the best way that they knew how express, how upset they were.

00:49:45.000 Now, you know, you can't destroy property.

00:49:48.000 You can't commandeer areas.

00:49:51.000 These are all areas where, in a civil society, you can't do those things.

00:49:55.000 But I think a lot of the people, their reaction to a lot of what was going on was probably heavily manipulated, but some of it was organic.

00:50:04.000 It's also they're just trying to be good people.

00:50:06.000 Seeing it on TikTok, going like, we're seeing kids being killed, and we're paying for it, and we should do something And the more people I spoke to, I was like, yeah, I didn't think that they were...

00:50:22.000 I thought probably a lot of them were a little naive about certain things, but they're in college.

00:50:30.000 Right.

00:50:30.000 So that's okay.

00:50:31.000 Everybody's naive in college.

00:50:32.000 That's right.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, and it's a thing to be a good person.

00:50:35.000 You want to go out and support the good thing.

00:50:37.000 What's the good thing?

00:50:37.000 Free Palestine.

00:50:38.000 Yes.

00:50:38.000 That's right.

00:50:39.000 They should be free.

00:50:40.000 Yeah.

00:50:40.000 From the river to the sea.

00:50:41.000 Which river, which sea?

00:50:42.000 No one knows.

00:50:43.000 No one knows.

00:50:43.000 That's not what's important.

00:50:45.000 What's important is I'm out here because, you know, Debbie's really progressive and she's hot.

00:50:48.000 Want some coffee?

00:50:49.000 Yeah, please.

00:50:50.000 Debbie's really progressive and she's hot and I'm trying to impress her. 0.58

00:50:52.000 Well, that's, and listen, there's a, I enjoyed it.

00:50:55.000 They had, you know, it seemed fun.

00:50:57.000 I took a few selfies with them.

00:50:59.000 They were good people.

00:51:01.000 And then they were like the cops.

00:51:02.000 Yeah, recognized.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, a few times.

00:51:03.000 Yeah.

00:51:04.000 And then the kids were like, they were like, you had Abby Martin on.

00:51:07.000 And I was like, thank you, you know, whatever, thank you.

00:51:10.000 And they were very nice.

00:51:12.000 And then they were like, well, the cops are coming in, they think.

00:51:15.000 They go, we think they're coming in with rubber bullets and, you know, hoses and everything.

00:51:20.000 And I said, I got to, at the Beverly Hills Hotel, you have to put your breakfast order on the door by 1 a.m.

00:51:26.000 And I explained that to the kids.

00:51:28.000 And they'll know.

00:51:29.000 They'll bring the egg and everything.

00:51:30.000 I said, I can't be here during the onslaught of the police activity.

00:51:35.000 But you guys should.

00:51:37.000 I even said that.

00:51:38.000 I go, you guys shouldn't.

00:51:39.000 Lock arms.

00:51:41.000 Do that stuff.

00:51:42.000 Because you only live once and you're only a kid once.

00:51:45.000 And make these cops work.

00:51:47.000 Who cares?

00:51:48.000 Lock arms, but I had to go.

00:51:49.000 I can't be.

00:51:50.000 Did you see what happened in Philly when the gay pride parade met Free Palestine?

00:51:54.000 Oh, there was a fight.

00:51:56.000 Yeah, it was a clash.

00:51:57.000 They clashed.

00:51:58.000 Kurt Metzger would call that, the great Kurt Metzger would call that, I believe, an intersectional car crash.

00:52:05.000 It was funny.

00:52:06.000 They were saying you can't march because Palestine's not free.

00:52:08.000 You gotta stop right here.

00:52:09.000 We're more important.

00:52:11.000 This is more important than you being happy.

00:52:12.000 It was weird watching it because they were like, there's no joy, no one should be happy.

00:52:16.000 I think Pride is very silly that it's a whole month. 0.95

00:52:18.000 That's very silly. 0.99

00:52:19.000 If you look at what was done to black people, and you look at what was done to gay people, it's insane that Pride is a full month. 0.99

00:52:30.000 A couple of weekends, maybe one or two, the idea that it's a full month is nuts. 0.95

00:52:35.000 How about there's only Veterans Day?

00:52:38.000 Right, there's one day for veterans and there's an entire month.

00:52:41.000 Memorial Day.

00:52:41.000 There's Veterans Day and Memorial Day.

00:52:43.000 And what the Month of Pride allows people to do is it allows corporations to just talk about, you know, how down they are with fisting.

00:52:57.000 That's really all it is.

00:52:58.000 Why don't we have a Veterans Month?

00:52:59.000 It's just Capital One going, it's like, we will, you can...

00:53:03.000 And I say that as an out gay guy who has no problem with people going to pride parades and having fun.

00:53:09.000 I don't think a nine-year-old should be there. 0.50

00:53:11.000 How old do you think is the cutoff?

00:53:14.000 I mean, when your kids are in their teens, perhaps, if they're in their older teens, I just think kids should be...

00:53:21.000 Legal teens, you mean?

00:53:22.000 No, I mean, I don't think a 13-year-old needs to be there either.

00:53:24.000 17?

00:53:26.000 17 is hard. 0.93

00:53:26.000 17 and know he's gay. 0.93

00:53:28.000 17, or they could just 17 and they're mature enough to handle what's going on.

00:53:36.000 Are they, though?

00:53:38.000 I don't know, but it depends.

00:53:40.000 I'm not mature enough to handle what's going on in the Pride Parades.

00:53:42.000 The Pride Parades have gone off the chain.

00:53:46.000 They've gone off the chain.

00:53:47.000 But, you know, people dressing up like dogs and stuff is crazy.

00:53:51.000 Congressman.

00:53:51.000 But, like, to me, I've always felt that, like, if you're going to go out and have a party where people are getting drunk and hooking up and dancing, anybody who's legally underage shouldn't be there.

00:54:01.000 So 17 is right on the cusp, and then 18 and everything is fine.

00:54:04.000 But to me, it's like, I don't think it belongs for kids.

00:54:07.000 That's clearly it doesn't belong for kids.

00:54:09.000 Well, people want to do it to show their kids tolerance and acceptance.

00:54:12.000 But you don't have.

00:54:14.000 That's not.

00:54:15.000 I think people want to do it.

00:54:16.000 It's very sexualized.

00:54:17.000 It's very sexualized.

00:54:19.000 The thing about pride is like, yeah, sure, you should celebrate the fact that gays are free to get married and they have all the same rights as everybody else, as they should.

00:54:26.000 But it's sexual.

00:54:29.000 Yes.

00:54:29.000 It's like a lot of guys with thongs on.

00:54:32.000 Well, it's like spring break, right?

00:54:33.000 Yeah, it's wild.

00:54:34.000 It's like, would you take your 10-year-old to spring break to teach them tolerance?

00:54:41.000 No.

00:54:41.000 Right.

00:54:42.000 You wouldn't do that.

00:54:43.000 That's kind of straight pride. 0.99

00:54:45.000 Spring break is a bunch of people going to get fucked up in Florida. 0.99

00:54:48.000 Right. 1.00

00:54:49.000 And they're gonna fight each other and have sex. 1.00

00:54:51.000 And you wouldn't take your young children to see that. 0.65

00:54:55.000 I don't see the reason to take your kids to a highly sexualized parade. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Yeah.

00:55:04.000 No, I agree.

00:55:04.000 You want to take them to an event that's not as sexualized?

00:55:07.000 Like, maybe...

00:55:10.000 A mother would tell her kids, like, your father's getting an award. 1.00

00:55:13.000 He's gay. 0.99

00:55:14.000 He's getting an award.

00:55:15.000 That's why it didn't work out with us. 0.99

00:55:17.000 Your father's gay. 1.00

00:55:19.000 He's a faggot, and we're watching him get an award tonight because he wrote a book. 1.00

00:55:24.000 Poor bastards are out there in marriages right now that are gay. 1.00

00:55:26.000 Probably a lot. 1.00

00:55:27.000 There's probably a lot of them.

00:55:29.000 Just trapped.

00:55:29.000 Just can't be themselves.

00:55:30.000 But you know what it is?

00:55:31.000 Nothing's great.

00:55:32.000 You probably have a fine wife. 0.99

00:55:34.000 Yeah.

00:55:36.000 Nothing's great.

00:55:37.000 Listen, continue to do things on the DL, just don't give her AIDS. I, and this is not a popular thing to say it, during Pride, there's so many political attachments to being gay now. 0.90

00:55:52.000 If you're a closeted guy, just fuck your wife once a month, cheat on her, don't give her AIDS, and just keep the family tight. 1.00

00:56:00.000 And I know that that's probably not popular. 1.00

00:56:03.000 But, I mean, now is not the...

00:56:05.000 I mean, it's just, if you're 60, are you gonna come out?

00:56:08.000 I mean, do we really need people coming out in their 70s?

00:56:11.000 Do we need this?

00:56:13.000 To be very honest.

00:56:14.000 There's a window of which you can get honest.

00:56:18.000 If you don't, double down on the lie.

00:56:23.000 I think that's a great strategy for all of life.

00:56:25.000 I think there's a window to be honest.

00:56:27.000 It's not forever.

00:56:29.000 Right.

00:56:30.000 Nobody wants somebody coming out in their 50s, 60s. 0.68

00:56:33.000 It's on their deathbed.

00:56:34.000 Yeah, it's on their deathbed.

00:56:35.000 Oh, so now you've lied the whole time?

00:56:38.000 Right.

00:56:38.000 Just keep it a secret.

00:56:41.000 Just keep it a secret.

00:56:43.000 Not a bad piece of advice.

00:56:44.000 It's not a bad piece of advice.

00:56:45.000 Happy Pride.

00:56:46.000 But it is...

00:56:47.000 I do feel that way.

00:56:48.000 I think that like...

00:56:48.000 For some people.

00:56:49.000 Yeah.

00:56:50.000 Some people probably can't handle a change.

00:56:53.000 The big shift?

00:56:54.000 Yeah, sure.

00:56:55.000 It's a big shift.

00:56:57.000 It's also weird now because people, it's like, what are you coming out as? 0.90

00:57:01.000 If you just, you want to have sex with dudes, you want to have sex with women, and then you're like, okay, so then, okay, I'm gay or lesbian, but then you're like, what is the LGBTQIA2 thing? 0.97

00:57:11.000 Two-spirit. 0.99

00:57:12.000 What is that flag?

00:57:13.000 You'd be a two-spirit.

00:57:15.000 That's what two is.

00:57:16.000 The fact that we allow that is hilarious.

00:57:18.000 No, no, it's amazing.

00:57:19.000 It's amazing.

00:57:20.000 And A. I like how A's in there.

00:57:22.000 You're asexual. 1.00

00:57:23.000 You don't have a fucking dog in this race. 1.00

00:57:25.000 So you go, okay, so I have this, and then I have a flag. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Nobody understands the flag.

00:57:30.000 Keeps getting bigger.

00:57:31.000 Indigenous?

00:57:32.000 Keeps changing.

00:57:33.000 What do white gay people, and I'm not saying indigenous people don't have issues, But what do white gay people have anything to do with the indigenous community? 0.97

00:57:40.000 They're just trying to develop a gang. 0.96

00:57:42.000 Yeah, it's right.

00:57:43.000 It's like, why would they pretend to understand what indigenous people go through? 1.00

00:57:46.000 Right.

00:57:46.000 How did the I get in there?

00:57:47.000 It used to be we were making fun of putting the trans people and the lesbians in with the gays. 0.83

00:57:53.000 Yes.

00:57:54.000 Which are very different things. 0.97

00:57:55.000 Well, lesbians are going away. 1.00

00:57:56.000 Barry Weiss is the final lesbian. 0.90

00:58:00.000 Did you know that?

00:58:01.000 No.

00:58:01.000 She's the final one.

00:58:02.000 That's it.

00:58:03.000 The final countdown.

00:58:07.000 And do you know in Israel they canceled the pride parade this year?

00:58:10.000 Why?

00:58:12.000 Because their gay pride flag, they made the yellow, I think, bigger because of the hostages. 0.99

00:58:17.000 Oh, wow. 0.90

00:58:18.000 So they would not have a gay pride parade.

00:58:21.000 And they're also using all the material that they would have used in the pride parade to carpet bomb civilian areas of Rafa. 0.54

00:58:28.000 But here's the point. 0.97

00:58:32.000 All of the fireworks and stuff are directly being shot at babies' faces, who are homophobic and should go. 0.92

00:58:38.000 Because, by the way, you know that's the whole thing they're doing over there, where they go, they just bombed a school, and Israel's got to stop doing this all the time. 0.52

00:58:47.000 Every now and then, when I grew up, Israel would bomb a school every now and then, and people would go, oh.

00:58:52.000 It was not all the time.

00:58:53.000 Now they're doing it too much.

00:58:55.000 And it's making people upset.

00:58:56.000 When I grew up, it was a nice thing.

00:58:58.000 Every now and then, never a nice thing, but every now and then it would be like, you wouldn't know what Israel was doing. 0.73

00:59:02.000 Israel just bombed the school.

00:59:04.000 And you'd go, huh.

00:59:05.000 It was rare.

00:59:06.000 Now they're doing it so much.

00:59:08.000 And if you go, this might be a lot.

00:59:09.000 And I support them and their right to exist.

00:59:11.000 But this seems to be every human rights organization in the world, every country, everybody's going, this is guys, please.

00:59:19.000 Even America, even Biden, even Biden is going, guys, please.

00:59:23.000 And the response to maybe let's not bomb these refugee camps is, do you know what Hamas does to gay people and women?

00:59:33.000 Yeah. 0.71

00:59:34.000 And it's like, guys, come on.

00:59:36.000 Yeah, that's not...

00:59:38.000 Yeah, but you're killing people. 0.98

00:59:39.000 You're killing children. 0.99

00:59:41.000 Yeah, and women. 1.00

00:59:42.000 And women. 0.98

00:59:42.000 Yeah, a lot of them. 0.98

00:59:44.000 A lot.

00:59:44.000 We got to figure out a way...

00:59:45.000 More than you're killing terrorists.

00:59:46.000 Yeah, we got to figure out a way to make this a better situation.

00:59:53.000 That's another one that's so wild, too, because the left has always been kind of clear on where it would look at conflicts.

01:00:04.000 With Ukraine, the left is all in for Ukraine, right? 0.97

01:00:08.000 Yeah.

01:00:09.000 There's people on the right that are in for Ukraine, but the left is pretty much all in.

01:00:13.000 They're all in.

01:00:13.000 Putin's bad.

01:00:14.000 The far left isn't, but the mainstream left that we all know about is.

01:00:18.000 But with Israel, you have people on the left that are pro-Israel a lot.

01:00:22.000 Hardcore.

01:00:23.000 Hardcore.

01:00:24.000 Who just will find a way to rationalize the human shield argument, no matter what it is.

01:00:30.000 And no one is like being straight up about it.

01:00:34.000 Everyone's being ideological about it.

01:00:36.000 No one is saying the whole thing is chaos.

01:00:38.000 No one is saying, you know, no one's talking about the history of the region, like the real history of the region, which is really complex.

01:00:45.000 It's very complex.

01:00:46.000 It goes back forever. 0.98

01:00:47.000 And then no one is looking at this like there's any kind of fucking solution that makes any sense. 0.97

01:00:54.000 No. 0.96

01:00:54.000 So there's no clear path, like, this guy's dead on, and this is the way we have to treat this, and this has to be handled. 0.96

01:01:03.000 No, it's either Hamas is using human shields, and Israel has a right to exist, and they want to wipe Israel out, and if Israel laid down their arms, they would slaughter them.

01:01:13.000 If Hamas laid down their arms, they would be fine. 0.99

01:01:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:16.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:01:17.000 It's hard. 1.00

01:01:18.000 And it's like there's definitely, I think, naivete on both sides. 0.81

01:01:25.000 The people at the Kamas as like a high school theater group are insane. 0.67

01:01:29.000 Yeah.

01:01:30.000 But the people also that think that you can bomb your way to the piece over there, I don't know.

01:01:38.000 Yeah, you're not going to do that.

01:01:39.000 You're not going to do it.

01:01:39.000 What are they going to do with all those people that survive?

01:01:42.000 I mean, imagine how many future Hamas people they've created. 1.00

01:01:47.000 They're going to build hotels in Gaza.

01:01:50.000 They're going to turn it into a...

01:01:52.000 Because I think that's maybe the endgame, is to eventually put a bunch of money into it.

01:01:57.000 That's perhaps the endgame.

01:01:58.000 Well, it is expensive real estate.

01:02:00.000 It's on the sea.

01:02:01.000 It's real estate by the sea.

01:02:02.000 They're going to put hotels in it, and then white people, you know, white chicks from America are going to go to trips. 1.00

01:02:07.000 Well, whenever there's, like, land that something happens to that's close to water, people are like, hang on, hang on before we make any decisions.

01:02:17.000 You know, this area of Maui is really valuable.

01:02:22.000 We can do wild things here.

01:02:23.000 If we can figure out a way to appropriate, if we just hang on long enough for all these people to lose their mortgages, if we can just figure out a way to slow down construction, slow down rebuilding...

01:02:33.000 They're going to hire...

01:02:35.000 I mean, look, it's a terrible tragedy that this happened, but look, we can't go back in time.

01:02:38.000 What are we going to do?

01:02:39.000 I mean, what are you going to do?

01:02:40.000 Let these people rebuild the shack?

01:02:41.000 They're going to hire the people that are left to work at the hotels.

01:02:46.000 That the people who bombed them are going to visit.

01:02:49.000 That is exactly what is going to happen.

01:02:51.000 And there's going to be a woman, there's going to be a kid who goes, here's your ex-Benedict, and she's going to go, hi, are you from here?

01:02:57.000 And he's going to go, yes.

01:02:59.000 And she's going to go, does your family still live here?

01:03:00.000 And he's going to go, no.

01:03:02.000 And she's going to go, why did they move?

01:03:04.000 And he's going to go, they were killed in the war.

01:03:06.000 And she's going to go, oh, anyway, can we have some ice lattes too?

01:03:10.000 Like, that's what's going to happen.

01:03:12.000 That's my guess.

01:03:13.000 My guess.

01:03:14.000 Do you think that there's any...

01:03:16.000 Is there a way that they could sell Israel taking over Gaza? 0.60

01:03:23.000 Is there a way they could actually sell that?

01:03:25.000 Yes.

01:03:25.000 The way you sell everything is by saying humanitarian reasons and you're going to pump in a lot of money and you're going to make things a lot better.

01:03:35.000 I don't know.

01:03:37.000 The last administration that truly tried to get a Palestinian state, people talk about Clinton, but it was really H.W. Bush.

01:03:46.000 George H.W. Bush tried to curb a lot of the settlement building and tried to say, listen, guys, we need to come to the table and have a Palestinian state.

01:03:55.000 There was another attempt during Clinton.

01:03:56.000 It didn't work for various reasons.

01:03:59.000 People can argue about why.

01:04:02.000 It does feel like no one's talked about it recently, and it's just kind of been a thing that everybody ignored.

01:04:08.000 So the idea that it won't exist is more likely now, I think, than it was.

01:04:14.000 I mean, and it should exist.

01:04:16.000 People should have the right to have a home.

01:04:19.000 But I feel like they would sell it in the sense that in order to provide economic and security guarantees, It has to be an occupied region forever.

01:04:29.000 I think that and then the idea is like, I mean, listen, they're preparing.

01:04:33.000 I mean, look at Military Times just wrote an editorial.

01:04:35.000 They want to bring back the draft.

01:04:37.000 They want to bring it back in Germany.

01:04:40.000 They're all preparing for something.

01:04:42.000 There is a very big push right now to militarize certain areas of the world, to bring back the draft, to see this as a Cold War that could turn hot.

01:04:57.000 Biden basically said to the Ukraine, use American weapons in Russia.

01:05:02.000 You can use American weapons, but not in a defensive capacity, for cross-border attacks into Russia.

01:05:10.000 Russia is now doing war games in the Caribbean. 0.85

01:05:13.000 You know, we are ratcheting all of this stuff up at a time when we should be completely going the other way.

01:05:21.000 We should be trying to figure out how to live on the planet with China, and we should not be encouraging countries to join NATO to antagonize Russia and getting involved in proxy wars. 0.95

01:05:37.000 That's crazy.

01:05:37.000 Didn't Trump say that he was going to pull out of NATO? He said that.

01:05:41.000 He also said he would have bombed...

01:05:42.000 You know, at a fundraiser the other day, he said he would have bombed Russia and China?

01:05:46.000 What?

01:05:47.000 He's very bellicose.

01:05:48.000 Yes, he did.

01:05:48.000 He said that?

01:05:48.000 You can look at it.

01:05:49.000 Oh my God.

01:05:50.000 Google that.

01:05:50.000 So he's saying all kinds of wild stuff.

01:05:52.000 Now, I don't think he would have, but I think it might also help to be that bellicose and say all those wild things.

01:05:57.000 Saying that you would bomb China and Russia?

01:05:59.000 He sat at a fundraiser recently, and the people in the fundraiser were kind of shocked. 0.65

01:06:04.000 He was basically like, yeah, we would have hit him.

01:06:06.000 You know, we would have done it.

01:06:07.000 Yeah, he's been, you know...

01:06:10.000 I gotta see this.

01:06:11.000 No, he's right here.

01:06:12.000 Trump at Fundraiser says, we would have bombed Russia and China.

01:06:15.000 What?

01:06:17.000 What?

01:06:18.000 What did he say?

01:06:19.000 Where did it say it? 0.99

01:06:21.000 What the fuck did he say? 0.98

01:06:26.000 I believe that President Trump would be supportive of Taiwan when he becomes president. 0.99

01:06:30.000 He was there the first term.

01:06:32.000 So where does it say that he would bomb?

01:06:40.000 What does this say here?

01:06:41.000 During a rally in Bronx, referenced several authoritarian leaders, including Vladimir Putin, saying they were at the top of their game, whether you like it or not.

01:06:48.000 The world is going to respect us again if he's re-elected, he claims.

01:06:51.000 The bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising tour, during which he tested the boundaries of federal campaign finance laws, according to experts.

01:07:01.000 At a fundraiser in New York earlier this month, Mr. Trump told the attendees he wanted to hear what they had on their minds, hearing options from former U.N. Ambassador and his final Republican primary opponent, Nikki Haley, and several issues connected to Israel.

01:07:15.000 Mr. Trump is routinely...

01:07:17.000 What is it?

01:07:17.000 Where does it say about the bomb thing?

01:07:20.000 Where does it say that?

01:07:20.000 I don't see any of this.

01:07:21.000 That should be like front and center if it's in the headline.

01:07:25.000 No, for sure.

01:07:25.000 Like, why are you making me go all day...

01:07:27.000 Where does it say you bomb him?

01:07:28.000 They had it in quotes right here.

01:07:29.000 It says, the bomb revelation was made, but...

01:07:32.000 Right, but what does that mean?

01:07:33.000 Amongst the people talking.

01:07:36.000 Yeah, but what does that mean?

01:07:37.000 Like, they're not saying his quote.

01:07:39.000 That's a real sneaky thing to do.

01:07:41.000 Yeah.

01:07:41.000 The bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising tour, but what was it?

01:07:47.000 Let me find a different article on it.

01:07:48.000 Yeah.

01:07:49.000 See if they have a quote.

01:07:50.000 Yeah, that seems Trump would bomb Moscow.

01:07:53.000 Allegedly said he would...

01:07:54.000 Allegedly.

01:07:56.000 Right.

01:07:57.000 Allegedly.

01:07:58.000 Well, he says a lot of stuff, and he might not have said this.

01:08:00.000 But that's a crazy yahoo title.

01:08:03.000 Trump suggested at fundraiser he would have bombed. 0.99

01:08:06.000 That seems to me like, unless you have the fucking quote, you shouldn't be saying that. 0.98

01:08:11.000 It is kind of funny. 0.99

01:08:13.000 Out crazy Putin. 0.89

01:08:18.000 That's a great headline. 0.89

01:08:20.000 Oh my god, The Hill said that.

01:08:21.000 But this doesn't say he was going to bomb anybody.

01:08:23.000 It says, according to the Kiev Independent, which is what Yahoo reposted.

01:08:27.000 The formerly and possibly future president.

01:08:30.000 Let me say this.

01:08:31.000 In what Trump said a few days before, according to the Kiev Independent, Independence retelling of a May 28 story in the Washington Post.

01:08:40.000 The former and possibly future president suggested at a fundraising event that he would have bombed Moscow in response to Russia full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

01:08:49.000 But this is not saying his actual quote.

01:08:53.000 He also said, in quotes, he would attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch.

01:08:59.000 But is that, it's got an asterisk?

01:09:01.000 No, it's a quote.

01:09:02.000 So is that his quote?

01:09:04.000 Did he say that, though?

01:09:05.000 Because it's weird.

01:09:07.000 It's saying, the quote is that he said he would attack Beijing.

01:09:10.000 And so, in quotes that way...

01:09:13.000 Is that his quote, though?

01:09:14.000 Attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch.

01:09:17.000 Did he actually say that?

01:09:18.000 Or is this a retelling of what this person is saying and they're putting that in quotes?

01:09:23.000 The whole thing is a little slippery.

01:09:25.000 It is slippery.

01:09:26.000 Because if you're not, it's suggested at a fundraising event he would have bombed Moscow.

01:09:31.000 Like, that seems like you should have that quote.

01:09:33.000 Yeah, you would think.

01:09:35.000 Trump makes sweeping promises to donors on an audacious fundraising tour.

01:09:39.000 It doesn't say anything in there about bombing, does it?

01:09:41.000 In the Washington Post.

01:09:43.000 Google will just do a find on this big-ass article and look for bomb. 0.63

01:09:51.000 Here it goes.

01:09:52.000 Okay, for example, at one event he suggested he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing if Russia invaded Ukraine and China or China invaded Taiwan, surprising some of the donors.

01:10:03.000 But you don't have the quote.

01:10:04.000 No, he said it before with John Daly with the golfer.

01:10:07.000 He did say, I told Vladimir I'd hit Moscow.

01:10:09.000 He did say that.

01:10:10.000 Jesus Christ.

01:10:11.000 And he did say that.

01:10:12.000 He said, and you can get this, he did say to John Daly, he basically said, like, listen, I told him, I said, if you go in, we'll hit Moscow.

01:10:19.000 And Trump said, I don't know if he believed me or not, but you just got to say these things, you know.

01:10:23.000 He was kind of telegraphing it.

01:10:25.000 But listen, I... I think that, you know, there's probably a value to some of that talk.

01:10:32.000 You know, he was a friend of mine.

01:10:36.000 I got along great with him.

01:10:37.000 I say, Vladimir, if you do it, we're hitting Moscow.

01:10:40.000 I said, we're going to hit Moscow.

01:10:41.000 He sort of believed me, like 5%, 10%.

01:10:44.000 That's all you need.

01:10:45.000 He never did it during my time, John, you know?

01:10:47.000 No.

01:10:49.000 No, it's funny.

01:10:49.000 Why did he do this during the last four years?

01:10:51.000 Because he knew he couldn't.

01:10:52.000 It's funny how Xi didn't bother you either.

01:10:59.000 John Daly getting hammered, chatting it up with the president.

01:11:03.000 Guy's got an amazing life.

01:11:04.000 I gotta get that guy in here.

01:11:05.000 Yeah.

01:11:06.000 John Daly, if you're out there.

01:11:07.000 It'd be epic.

01:11:07.000 Let's get hammered.

01:11:08.000 Yeah, but so, I mean, who knows if he said at the fundraiser or not.

01:11:11.000 They are slippery and they do attribute things to him.

01:11:14.000 And there's maybe more context to it.

01:11:15.000 Yeah, it's real hard to know.

01:11:17.000 But just saying that's crazy.

01:11:18.000 Yeah.

01:11:19.000 I don't know if you believe me, maybe 5%.

01:11:21.000 Yeah, but I think maybe that's good.

01:11:23.000 There's something good about...

01:11:24.000 A maniac?

01:11:25.000 When you have a maniac in there who is, you know, a guy that's unpredictable.

01:11:30.000 I think maybe Kim Jong-un, you know, when he would do that, and then Trump was on the other end of that, maybe that was perhaps helpful.

01:11:38.000 Maybe.

01:11:39.000 In that spot. 1.00

01:11:39.000 I don't know, but do you really want to be playing chicken with fucking Russia? 1.00

01:11:42.000 No, I think we got to chill. 0.99

01:11:44.000 I think we got to chill across the board.

01:11:47.000 It doesn't feel like we're chilling.

01:11:48.000 It feels like we're on this inevitable course towards World War III. It's every article and headline.

01:11:54.000 It's like, guys, let's pull it back.

01:11:56.000 Let's have a summer here.

01:11:57.000 Yeah, let's relax a little bit.

01:11:59.000 But it's not going to relax because it's getting close to November.

01:12:01.000 And everybody's got to be terrified.

01:12:03.000 Oh, my God.

01:12:04.000 Aren't you?

01:12:05.000 Well, depending on which article I read or media I consume, I don't know.

01:12:12.000 It feels like...

01:12:16.000 They're doing a lot to keep him from running.

01:12:20.000 I mean, you have the Stormy Daniels thing, which was a misdemeanor.

01:12:24.000 It was elevated to this felony.

01:12:26.000 It was like it would have never been prosecuted had he not been running for president. 0.98

01:12:32.000 And that scares the shit out of me. 0.99

01:12:34.000 That's terrible. 0.73

01:12:34.000 That stuff's crazy. 0.73

01:12:36.000 Absolutely.

01:12:37.000 And the Republicans are going to do it back.

01:12:39.000 So now you're going to have...

01:12:40.000 Because they weaponized the government against, you know, when you had like the Steele dossier and Hillary Clinton, you had all of this.

01:12:47.000 What ended up being, you know, faulty intelligence about him being controlled by Russia.

01:12:52.000 And then they had all of these investigations and spent all of this time and energy trying to Get him and couldn't.

01:13:00.000 And then they tried to get him on, like, inflating the prices of the buildings he owns.

01:13:06.000 And now they finally got him on paying hush money to someone, a porn star.

01:13:11.000 Well, what they got him on was the inappropriate way they put it in the ledger.

01:13:15.000 Right.

01:13:16.000 The way they put it in the ledger.

01:13:17.000 The way they entered.

01:13:18.000 Right.

01:13:18.000 Exactly.

01:13:19.000 34 times.

01:13:20.000 34 different felons.

01:13:21.000 And I know people that hate Trump that go, They shouldn't have done that.

01:13:25.000 Well, that's scary.

01:13:26.000 If he gets into office, you don't think that judges and prosecutors that are sympathetic to him would do the same thing?

01:13:33.000 Absolutely.

01:13:34.000 That's probably what's scaring the Biden people more than anything, is the retribution.

01:13:39.000 I mean, this guy is a vindictive guy.

01:13:42.000 He's always been a guy that goes after people who go after him.

01:13:44.000 He hits back harder than they hit him.

01:13:46.000 And if they're doing this to him, and he knows all the people that did it, Well, you have all the guys now, his guys, right?

01:13:52.000 Batting, Stephen Miller, all these guys.

01:13:54.000 They are all saying, hey, where are you?

01:13:57.000 DAs all over the country start bringing cases against prominent Democrats.

01:14:01.000 Yeah, they're worried.

01:14:02.000 They're worried.

01:14:03.000 You know, they're worried because if Trump doesn't get in, then...

01:14:07.000 Do you remember what happened when Trump lost and then all these people were saying everybody who supported him, they should be on a list?

01:14:13.000 Right.

01:14:13.000 Whoa.

01:14:14.000 That was insane.

01:14:15.000 Whoa.

01:14:16.000 Are they willing to start a world war before this election?

01:14:21.000 That's interesting.

01:14:22.000 Are they willing to start a world war before this election?

01:14:26.000 What are they willing to do?

01:14:27.000 What are they not willing to do?

01:14:29.000 Well, maybe a world war gets started because they don't want Trump in office.

01:14:33.000 Maybe someone else starts it.

01:14:35.000 I'm wondering how far they're willing to go.

01:14:39.000 I'm also wondering how other countries, like you just said, might take advantage of this.

01:14:44.000 Yeah, maybe they would take advantage of it because they know that's the best way to keep Trump from being the president. 0.60

01:14:48.000 If Trump is promising all these embargoes and all this different shit that he's going to do to China and everything he's going to do around the world, if I was in another country, I'd be like, we don't want that. 0.86

01:15:00.000 No. 0.95

01:15:01.000 Like, escalate things, you know.

01:15:05.000 Right around October, invade Taiwan, take that over. 0.98

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:08.000 See what happens.

01:15:09.000 I mean, that's the thing.

01:15:10.000 A lot of people are thinking that there is a possibility that you see somebody makes a move.

01:15:16.000 Yeah.

01:15:17.000 You know?

01:15:17.000 I mean, what better time to make a move than the chaos of us right now?

01:15:22.000 Right.

01:15:22.000 You got a choice between what the Democrats keep calling a convicted felon.

01:15:27.000 Convicted felon.

01:15:28.000 He's a convicted felon.

01:15:29.000 And there's been all this talk about repeating that over and over again.

01:15:32.000 Make sure we get that message out there.

01:15:34.000 No one cares.

01:15:36.000 Convicted felon. 1.00

01:15:37.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just such a stupid thing. 0.99

01:15:39.000 Well, he's got a lot of people voting for him now that wouldn't have voted for him before. 0.99

01:15:42.000 There's a lot of people, I think, that are also seeing the...

01:15:45.000 It would be one thing...

01:15:47.000 I mean, listen, I have nothing good to say about Gavin Newsom.

01:15:50.000 But if you had a guy that had his...

01:15:55.000 Faculties.

01:15:56.000 Could speak.

01:15:57.000 Yeah.

01:15:58.000 Was of a reasonable age or whatever.

01:16:00.000 Could gaslight better.

01:16:01.000 Could gaslight better.

01:16:02.000 But the fact that you have this guy who's so old that, to me, does suggest, for whatever reason, they're terrified of replacing him with someone else.

01:16:12.000 I do not know why.

01:16:13.000 I don't know why.

01:16:14.000 But it feels like who's ever running things right now does not want anybody coming in and looking under the hood.

01:16:23.000 That does feel like that.

01:16:25.000 I could be wrong.

01:16:25.000 Like if you're in business with someone, they won't let you look at the books.

01:16:28.000 Why are they killing Assange every day?

01:16:30.000 Why are they torturing and killing Julian Assange?

01:16:34.000 What did Julian Assange unleash that has made them...

01:16:40.000 Do this to him where they're slowly and methodically killing him in front of everybody.

01:16:45.000 Well, they can't stop now, right?

01:16:48.000 They've been doing it for so long.

01:16:49.000 They can't stop now because then he becomes a martyr with no consequences.

01:16:53.000 And the same people go and talk about Alexei Navalny and try to get you to be upset that Vladimir Putin, which made no sense.

01:17:00.000 Why would Putin kill a guy who was...

01:17:02.000 Now, I'm not saying Putin's an angel, but Navalny was never a threat to Putin in any way.

01:17:06.000 He was in a Siberian prison.

01:17:08.000 And the week that we were having that vote, about $60 billion for the Ukraine, Putin kills his biggest critic publicly?

01:17:18.000 That's insane.

01:17:20.000 That makes no sense to anybody.

01:17:22.000 What do you think happened?

01:17:24.000 Well, if I had to guess, there's two ways.

01:17:29.000 And Alexei Navalny might have just died.

01:17:32.000 People can't just die.

01:17:34.000 But it seems like if there was any group of people that had a benefit from Alexei Navalny dying when he did, it's not Russia.

01:17:45.000 It would be us.

01:17:47.000 If we're trying to pass to a country that's a little war-weary and a little tired and going, we don't really need...

01:17:54.000 Why are we in this?

01:17:55.000 What is the endgame in Ukraine?

01:17:56.000 What does it look like?

01:17:56.000 How much money should we be kicking over there?

01:18:01.000 We're trying to pass that bill, get that through Congress.

01:18:05.000 We have to portray Vladimir Putin as a monster who's unwilling to negotiate.

01:18:09.000 We have to do that.

01:18:11.000 In order to fund that war, we have to present him as a guy who's hell-bent on taking over Europe, and that war is in our vital national security interest. 0.86

01:18:23.000 And the more we can paint him as that person, The better it is and the more likely we are to be able to pass that bill.

01:18:34.000 And it's just very weird if he wanted to get rid of Alexei Navalny that he would have done it then.

01:18:38.000 But wasn't that guy in a terrible prison?

01:18:40.000 He was in a bad prison.

01:18:45.000 Obviously, Putin hated him.

01:18:46.000 Putin hated him, but Putin, they had tried to poison him already.

01:18:50.000 The FSB had already tried to poison Navalny.

01:18:52.000 So why wouldn't you think they just did it again?

01:18:54.000 Why?

01:18:55.000 What would be the point?

01:18:57.000 He's in that prison. 0.99

01:18:57.000 Because they want him dead. 0.99

01:18:59.000 Because Putin just wants him dead. 0.99

01:19:00.000 The week that America...

01:19:04.000 Alexei Navalny never had widespread support in Russia, by the way.

01:19:08.000 This is not true.

01:19:08.000 He had certain people that liked what he was doing.

01:19:11.000 He never had widespread support in Russia.

01:19:14.000 This is a Western narrative that's cooked up that's completely untrue.

01:19:17.000 Alexei Navalny started his life as a guy who was...

01:19:20.000 We'd criticize Jews. 1.00

01:19:21.000 He had a lot of fascist tendencies.

01:19:23.000 And then after a little trip to Europe and maybe a meeting with, I don't know, who knows?

01:19:28.000 Who knows who people meet with?

01:19:29.000 He decided to go back to Russia with a very pro-Western attitude and he changed course.

01:19:34.000 I'm not saying why people do that.

01:19:36.000 People see the light in all different ways.

01:19:37.000 The point is, the guy's in a Siberian prison.

01:19:41.000 America's about to pass a huge bill. 0.93

01:19:45.000 If you're the president of Russia, are you killing him that week?

01:19:51.000 That just to me is a question. 0.82

01:19:55.000 How did he die?

01:19:57.000 What are they saying?

01:19:58.000 But now they said something recently.

01:20:00.000 They said they found that he wasn't killed.

01:20:02.000 They came out with something.

01:20:04.000 They conducted...

01:20:04.000 Now, I don't know who's conducting this, whether it's a Human Rights Watch or an international...

01:20:09.000 You're dying slow in jail no matter what.

01:20:12.000 Yes, and that's a bad jail. 0.94

01:20:14.000 Yeah, you're in a Russian jail.

01:20:15.000 What are you eating? 0.98

01:20:15.000 And I'm not saying Navalny wasn't a patriot or whatever, but I'm just saying that the idea that killing him... 0.98

01:20:21.000 Right.

01:20:22.000 Maybe the guy did love Russia.

01:20:24.000 I don't know.

01:20:24.000 Maybe the guy was a...

01:20:26.000 An egomaniacal guy who just wanted to lead.

01:20:29.000 He wanted to be the leader.

01:20:30.000 Maybe he was working with us.

01:20:31.000 I don't know.

01:20:32.000 But if you just look at it from a logical standpoint, it's weird that they killed him that week.

01:20:38.000 That's strange to me.

01:20:40.000 Doesn't make any sense.

01:20:42.000 Interesting.

01:20:43.000 I don't know enough about it to comment. 0.98

01:20:44.000 I would imagine if you wanted the guy dead.

01:20:46.000 That should never limit any of us.

01:20:48.000 How did he die?

01:20:49.000 Sudden death syndrome.

01:20:50.000 Oh.

01:20:52.000 Given notice of a dead Navalny's spokesperson, Kira Yarmish, said the time of his death, notice at 2.17pm local time, when Alexei's lawyer and mother arrived at the colony this morning, they were told that the cause of Navalny's death was sudden death syndrome.

01:21:10.000 That's a vague term for different cardiac syndromes that cause sudden cardiac arrest and death.

01:21:18.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 Maybe they just killed him. 0.96

01:21:22.000 Of course they might have killed him. 0.84

01:21:24.000 More likely, right?

01:21:24.000 I don't know.

01:21:25.000 Felt unwell for a walk, almost immediately losing consciousness.

01:21:28.000 He also just might have died in a jail.

01:21:30.000 How old was he?

01:21:35.000 Oh, that's pretty young.

01:21:35.000 Just dropped out of a heart attack.

01:21:37.000 It's certainly possible that they killed him.

01:21:39.000 It's just all of these events that we're told very little about, you have to then just rest on your own.

01:21:47.000 You go, well, I don't know.

01:21:49.000 It's very possible they killed him.

01:21:50.000 I don't know.

01:21:50.000 I don't live there.

01:21:51.000 What do I know?

01:21:52.000 It's very possible they killed him.

01:21:53.000 I like how you're thinking, though.

01:21:54.000 You're thinking like 4D chess.

01:21:56.000 Well, no, I'm thinking like, you know, the way when he dies, people go, he was a big threat and Putin had to vanquish him.

01:22:03.000 Was he?

01:22:03.000 I don't know.

01:22:04.000 I don't know.

01:22:05.000 Does anyone consume Russian media or listen to Russian podcasts?

01:22:09.000 I've listened to Russian podcasts.

01:22:10.000 I hear the way Russians talk.

01:22:11.000 I know people that live there.

01:22:16.000 We hear a lot of stuff, and then there's what we hear and then what's happening.

01:22:20.000 It doesn't mean that it's great.

01:22:22.000 I'd rather live here.

01:22:23.000 But it does mean that, like, this idea that there was a movement, like, remember when the hot dog warlord guy, Purgosian, was going through and everybody was salivating on social media being like, no, no, no, he's about to overthrow the Kremlin.

01:22:38.000 It's going to happen.

01:22:38.000 And it didn't happen.

01:22:39.000 No, if he did, he's a fucking warlord. 1.00

01:22:42.000 He's a war lawyer. 1.00

01:22:43.000 If he did, he's going to be worse. 0.98

01:22:44.000 But it didn't happen, because nobody has a fucking clue what's going on over there. 0.98

01:22:50.000 And then Assange, they're killing this guy in slow motion, and then telling us how outraged we should be about Navalny. 0.94

01:22:57.000 When Assange comes out, leaks a bunch of emails, we find out we're committing war crimes, we find out the CIA can remotely hijack your car, We find out that they can use all kinds of smartphone features to record you, you know,

01:23:12.000 all that stuff.

01:23:14.000 He releases, I forget what it's called, Vault 7 or Vault 5. I think it's 7, but I don't know.

01:23:19.000 I forgot the name of the vault, but he releases all of these things.

01:23:24.000 Troves of Clinton emails, you know, and I'm not saying...

01:23:27.000 Seth Rich gets murdered.

01:23:29.000 Seth Rich gets murdered.

01:23:29.000 I'm not saying Pizzagate was real, but I've never in my life been like, have 50 hot dogs ready for the guy when he comes.

01:23:36.000 Like, no one talks.

01:23:37.000 Like, I don't know what they were talking about.

01:23:39.000 Hot dogs and pizza.

01:23:40.000 No one has ever communicated like that.

01:23:43.000 No.

01:23:44.000 Ever once.

01:23:45.000 Those emails.

01:23:46.000 The most bizarre...

01:23:48.000 Read those emails.

01:23:49.000 Nobody has ever communicated like that ever ago.

01:23:51.000 Well, I hope there's 50 hot dogs or something.

01:23:54.000 The president's going to love some of these good hot dogs.

01:23:57.000 Maybe we shouldn't have our hot dog parties at the White House.

01:24:01.000 Things that are so crazy when you read them, you don't know.

01:24:05.000 You go, this doesn't seem to be...

01:24:07.000 It doesn't seem to make any sense.

01:24:09.000 And they're talking about kids.

01:24:11.000 And talking about kids? 1.00

01:24:13.000 And they're talking about weird shit. 0.99

01:24:14.000 It seems coded. 0.99

01:24:16.000 It seems weirdly coded.

01:24:18.000 It seems so coded that I would assume that it's misinformation.

01:24:21.000 That it's fake.

01:24:22.000 That someone released it.

01:24:24.000 It's like some sort of a fake.

01:24:26.000 But I don't think it is.

01:24:27.000 I don't think it's ever been claimed.

01:24:29.000 I don't think it's ever been claimed to not have been their actual emails.

01:24:32.000 It's very strange.

01:24:33.000 And they have these emails.

01:24:35.000 That are all very weird and strange.

01:24:38.000 Seth Rich gets killed.

01:24:41.000 And anybody who thinks that Seth Rich might have got murdered because of leaking to WikiLeaks, even though Assange alluded to it.

01:24:48.000 Right.

01:24:49.000 You're a conspiracy theorist. 1.00

01:24:50.000 You're a nut. 1.00

01:24:51.000 Well, wait a minute. 1.00

01:24:52.000 Do you or do you not think that sometimes people kill people?

01:24:57.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:24:58.000 I mean, like, these people are crazy. 0.98

01:25:00.000 And you see a clear motive here. 0.99

01:25:02.000 Huge.

01:25:02.000 You see a thing here.

01:25:03.000 Absolutely.

01:25:03.000 That's a real big thing.

01:25:04.000 And if you pursue that at all, if you even question that at all, if you look into it at all, they left his wallet, they left his phone, they didn't steal anything from him.

01:25:12.000 It was not a mugging.

01:25:13.000 Just murdered him.

01:25:14.000 It was not a mugging.

01:25:15.000 It was a murder.

01:25:16.000 You don't think that was weird?

01:25:17.000 It's very strange.

01:25:18.000 People go, oh, it was a bad area.

01:25:19.000 It was whatever.

01:25:19.000 Yes, but there was no economic crime happening.

01:25:22.000 Not only that, they left his stuff.

01:25:25.000 That's right.

01:25:26.000 They shot him and just left whatever he had.

01:25:27.000 They left all that.

01:25:28.000 Even if it wasn't a robbery.

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 If you're the type of person who's going to shoot someone, you're going to leave their money with them?

01:25:32.000 You had all of that happening at the same time that high-up members of the national security apparatus in this country were coming out going, we have information that the President of the United States is either working for Russia, conspiring, has conspired with Russia.

01:25:49.000 Had girls pee on him. 0.82

01:25:50.000 Had girls pee on him.

01:25:50.000 They were accusing him of treason.

01:25:53.000 And remember this.

01:25:54.000 They were accusing the guy of treason. 0.99

01:25:56.000 This was not like he got a blowjob in the Oval Office. 0.99

01:25:59.000 This is treason. 0.99

01:26:01.000 And his supporters enabled a coup in our country backed by Russia. 0.52

01:26:06.000 None of that.

01:26:07.000 Two years, three years on TV. And everybody repeated it.

01:26:11.000 Everyone repeated it.

01:26:13.000 No one has since apologized.

01:26:15.000 Nobody has said we were wrong.

01:26:17.000 Nobody has shown any interest in getting to the bottom of how that happened.

01:26:21.000 They cook up this fake steel dossier, claiming all these things, the pee tape, all that stuff.

01:26:27.000 All of this intelligence ends up being, for lack of a better word, pretty unsourced.

01:26:33.000 And the Clinton campaign paid for that dossier.

01:26:36.000 And so all of that stuff, unreal how corrupt.

01:26:40.000 Now when you zoom out, and you look, and then you go, there's this old guy with dementia that they don't want to give up on, and then you zoom out.

01:26:50.000 And you go, oh, maybe there is something else happening.

01:26:52.000 I don't know.

01:26:54.000 Jesus. 1.00

01:26:55.000 Who the fuck knows? 1.00

01:26:57.000 You can only say this if you have these glasses on. 1.00

01:26:59.000 Yeah, you feel better.

01:26:59.000 If you take them off, you immediately become a normie and you can't.

01:27:02.000 And you feel nervous about that.

01:27:04.000 You feel nervous.

01:27:04.000 You start going, I like Biden.

01:27:07.000 I like that he's a family man, which someone said the other day.

01:27:10.000 He's a good man.

01:27:10.000 A family man.

01:27:11.000 He's a good man.

01:27:12.000 The family.

01:27:13.000 Yeah.

01:27:17.000 Our president's son right now is in court trying to convince a judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun.

01:27:25.000 Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that?

01:27:27.000 I don't know.

01:27:29.000 But that's such a funny thing that that's literally what the son of the president is doing right now.

01:27:34.000 They've got his ex-wife testifying, ex-girlfriend. 0.92

01:27:38.000 Yeah, not just like smoking.

01:27:39.000 He was saying he's smoking crack every hour on the hour.

01:27:42.000 Yeah, and one of them, I think his ex-wife or ex-girlfriend said she was witnessing him do it every 20 minutes, which is kind of impressive.

01:27:48.000 How do you stay alive?

01:27:50.000 Think about all the people who have died of overdoses.

01:27:51.000 That guy's out there.

01:27:52.000 Keep on trucking.

01:27:53.000 That's right.

01:27:54.000 Dropping accidental packages in the White House.

01:27:56.000 Well, he's fit.

01:27:57.000 He's kind of built for Ed.

01:27:59.000 He's built to smoke crack.

01:28:03.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:28:04.000 He has fun sex. 0.95

01:28:05.000 He can handle it. 0.98

01:28:06.000 Like Shane Gillis can handle beer.

01:28:08.000 Absolutely.

01:28:08.000 Some people can just handle stuff.

01:28:10.000 And, you know, I don't even want him to stop smoking crack.

01:28:14.000 I think he stopped.

01:28:15.000 Sure.

01:28:16.000 You don't think so?

01:28:17.000 No, no, no.

01:28:17.000 Sure.

01:28:18.000 I mean, listen, whatever.

01:28:19.000 He's great.

01:28:20.000 He's great.

01:28:21.000 They're all great!

01:28:22.000 They found Coke in the White House!

01:28:23.000 You know, I had a chance to- Who was that?

01:28:24.000 I had a chance to get him on the podcast.

01:28:26.000 Oh, Joe!

01:28:27.000 I know. 0.99

01:28:28.000 Early, early, early on, when he was releasing a book, before the laptop stuff or all the shit hit the fan. 0.99

01:28:34.000 Oh, well then that might have sucked. 0.99

01:28:36.000 I don't know.

01:28:37.000 I think I could have...

01:28:37.000 You could have opened the box.

01:28:39.000 Whenever they were...

01:28:39.000 He was going to go on...

01:28:41.000 I think they canceled all of it, though.

01:28:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:28:42.000 I think when the shit started... 0.99

01:28:43.000 It probably never would have happened. 0.99

01:28:45.000 Because I think once things started going sideways...

01:28:47.000 I think he did a couple of interviews before things went completely sideways.

01:28:51.000 I think it was because of a book.

01:28:53.000 It was before he was selling those...

01:28:56.000 Paintings.

01:28:56.000 Yeah, it's an artist.

01:28:57.000 For like half a billion bucks each.

01:28:59.000 He's a sensitive soul.

01:29:00.000 He's a sensitive soul.

01:29:01.000 He lives in Malibu.

01:29:02.000 He's an artist. 0.99

01:29:03.000 Paintings are a crazy way to fuck around with money. 0.99

01:29:06.000 Absolutely. 0.99

01:29:06.000 It's a great money laundering scheme. 0.99

01:29:07.000 It really is.

01:29:08.000 It's the best.

01:29:09.000 It's a great way to do it.

01:29:10.000 And, you know, it's interesting.

01:29:13.000 It's like the CIA. There's real evidence now.

01:29:16.000 The CIA was involved in Jackson Pollock.

01:29:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:19.000 You know that, right?

01:29:20.000 Which makes sense.

01:29:21.000 Of course.

01:29:21.000 Because those paintings were terrible.

01:29:23.000 Yeah.

01:29:24.000 Not only were they bad, but all of that whole era of art, they were kind of... 0.93

01:29:31.000 It also fucked with people's heads, because people were looking at those paintings going, I could do that. 0.95

01:29:38.000 Easily. 0.98

01:29:38.000 And capitalism only works if you have respect for the accomplishments of other people. 0.98

01:29:41.000 You've got to be able to look at people and go, I can't do that.

01:29:44.000 Bro, there's some work like that that is insanely expensive.

01:29:47.000 Yeah.

01:29:48.000 And it's just splatters.

01:29:49.000 And you're like, what is this?

01:29:51.000 Well, it's a great way to get over on the rent.

01:29:53.000 People think rich people always get over.

01:29:55.000 It's not true.

01:29:55.000 Rich people get beat all the time by other rich people.

01:29:58.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:29:59.000 Because they all agree that there are certain kinds of bullshit that they tolerate. 0.99

01:30:05.000 And one of them is like, they buy this crap art that is like this modern art that, you know, One was a blank canvas once that sold for $200,000. 0.99

01:30:14.000 How much do you think that went for? 0.98

01:30:18.000 $5 million.

01:30:19.000 Tim, any guess?

01:30:21.000 What is it?

01:30:22.000 Is it Pollock?

01:30:22.000 An original?

01:30:23.000 It's not Pollock?

01:30:25.000 I don't think so.

01:30:25.000 Someone else?

01:30:26.000 I'll show you the answer if I look.

01:30:28.000 I say $5 million.

01:30:30.000 I'll say $2 million.

01:30:33.000 $300 million.

01:30:38.000 Two weeks of the Ukraine war.

01:30:40.000 That's two weeks of the Ukraine war, that painting.

01:30:43.000 That is so crazy.

01:30:44.000 Can we just give the Ukraine that and have them sell it? 0.57

01:30:46.000 Can we just give them art like that and have them repurpose it?

01:30:49.000 What is it?

01:30:49.000 William de Kooning.

01:30:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:30:51.000 Okay, so it's 55. It's the head in the middle of the CIA. Yeah, this is when they were doing this.

01:30:56.000 So was this the American guy who did it? 0.67

01:30:58.000 The CEO of Citadel bought it.

01:31:00.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:31:01.000 What a fucking asshole. 1.00

01:31:02.000 You know, you made a great point about chaos. 1.00

01:31:04.000 You just need a certain amount of chaos. 0.99

01:31:06.000 And with this crap, it just starts driving people crazy. 0.99

01:31:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:31:09.000 And I think that chaos ends up becoming the point. 0.99

01:31:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:13.000 It's a factor.

01:31:15.000 That's right.

01:31:15.000 You know, it's like noise.

01:31:16.000 Like, if you want to kill somebody, turn off the music so no one hears them scream.

01:31:20.000 That's right. 0.91

01:31:21.000 Yeah.

01:31:21.000 So that's interesting.

01:31:22.000 When you see them really get involved in culture in the 60s, and they are in Laurel Canyon, and they're at Haight-Ashbury.

01:31:29.000 Oh, they were involved in everything.

01:31:30.000 And they're working with everybody.

01:31:31.000 You've had that guy on your show, wrote that great book about Manson and all that stuff.

01:31:37.000 And they're involved with cults, they're involved with everybody.

01:31:40.000 That's actually the painting.

01:31:41.000 The one I had up that it showed was not the correct painting.

01:31:43.000 Oh, this is the one? 0.97

01:31:44.000 That one still sucks. 0.95

01:31:46.000 That's $300 million? 0.98

01:31:47.000 That's even less impressive.

01:31:48.000 Dude, that's worse.

01:31:49.000 That one's less good.

01:31:50.000 If I bought the other one for $400, I'd feel better.

01:31:53.000 That's like something a guy like me picks out.

01:31:55.000 The other one was $27.6 million.

01:31:57.000 Jesus Christ.

01:31:58.000 Well, that's reasonable.

01:32:00.000 Good lord.

01:32:01.000 Is it the same artist?

01:32:02.000 I don't think so, no.

01:32:03.000 So this guy, what is the big deal about this guy?

01:32:07.000 I didn't.

01:32:07.000 I don't know.

01:32:08.000 I was just looking through another article. 1.00

01:32:09.000 God, these are garbage. 1.00

01:32:10.000 This is a garbage painting. 0.99

01:32:12.000 The top 15 from 2020, and I was like, the very first one it shows was the one I just showed you. 0.65

01:32:17.000 Oh, but that's number 15. Right.

01:32:19.000 Yeah, and that's $27 million.

01:32:21.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 So this is the most expensive works of art.

01:32:23.000 Oh, look at this one. 1.00

01:32:24.000 How much is that piece of shit? 1.00

01:32:25.000 Bro, that's something my daughter would have done when she was four. 1.00

01:32:28.000 28.7.

01:32:29.000 28.1.

01:32:30.000 What?

01:32:30.000 It's fake.

01:32:31.000 What?

01:32:32.000 Yeah.

01:32:32.000 So this is money laundering.

01:32:34.000 This is money laundering.

01:32:35.000 Well, then there's Picasso.

01:32:36.000 Picasso's actually kind of cool, though.

01:32:37.000 Look at that one.

01:32:38.000 Let me see the Picasso one.

01:32:39.000 Look at this one.

01:32:40.000 That's different.

01:32:41.000 The Picasso one's kind of cool.

01:32:42.000 But it's destroying the difference.

01:32:44.000 By elevating a lot of the other stuff, they're also muddying the waters.

01:32:47.000 Look at this one.

01:32:48.000 It's all blue.

01:32:49.000 Yeah, except that one line.

01:32:50.000 There's a line down the middle.

01:32:51.000 How much is that one?

01:32:52.000 30. That's the thin blue line.

01:32:54.000 $30 million.

01:32:55.000 This one's a black, red with a black square at the bottom.

01:33:00.000 $21 million.

01:33:02.000 This is insane.

01:33:03.000 Oh, that's a dinosaur, though.

01:33:04.000 That's an actual skeleton, yeah, for 32. That's pretty dope.

01:33:07.000 Well, that's fun.

01:33:07.000 That's pretty dope.

01:33:08.000 That belongs in a Miami penthouse, first floor.

01:33:10.000 I looked at a house in Beverly Hills when I was thinking about living in Beverly Hills, and it had a dinosaur in it.

01:33:15.000 See, that's cool.

01:33:16.000 You could buy the dinosaur for, like, an extra million.

01:33:17.000 The Persians are fun. 0.77

01:33:19.000 Yes.

01:33:20.000 Because they own those places.

01:33:21.000 I have a dinosaur.

01:33:21.000 You don't have a dinosaur?

01:33:23.000 There's one guy there that has white tigers in the backyard.

01:33:26.000 What?

01:33:26.000 He has like a white tiger thing in his backyard.

01:33:28.000 Actual white tigers?

01:33:29.000 Yes.

01:33:30.000 You're allowed to do that?

01:33:31.000 No.

01:33:32.000 He's not allowed.

01:33:33.000 He's just ballin'.

01:33:34.000 He doesn't care. 1.00

01:33:35.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:33:36.000 He's a diplomat. 1.00

01:33:36.000 But it's kind of well known that he does. 1.00

01:33:39.000 It's well known that he has tigers?

01:33:40.000 Jesus.

01:33:40.000 Maybe not amongst the people that would...

01:33:42.000 It is now.

01:33:43.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:33:44.000 Now people know.

01:33:44.000 Now people go.

01:33:45.000 What's the address?

01:33:46.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:33:47.000 They don't invite me.

01:33:48.000 I'm going to be standing there with the tiger.

01:33:50.000 Did you ever see that show, The Shaws of Sunset?

01:33:52.000 Yes.

01:33:53.000 It's all the rich Persians. 0.99

01:33:54.000 Yes.

01:33:55.000 Tarangelis.

01:33:55.000 They call LA. Tarangelis.

01:33:58.000 Which is fun.

01:33:59.000 There is something fun about those people.

01:34:00.000 I like the gold and the gaudy and the glitter. 0.98

01:34:03.000 The wasps, to me, they're like the fading wasp empire where they're loaded, but they drive like a shitty beater car. 0.95

01:34:11.000 I don't like that. 0.99

01:34:12.000 And they wear loafers.

01:34:13.000 I like how you do it.

01:34:14.000 I like how I do it, which is disgusting and vulgar, and it shows people that money isn't even good.

01:34:19.000 Right.

01:34:19.000 The way I live proves that money isn't even good.

01:34:24.000 That's the...

01:34:29.000 I buy things at Dior. 0.96

01:34:31.000 When I walk into these stores, I buy a dumb hoodie or something that looks crazy or a feathered coat or whatever. 0.72

01:34:36.000 And people see me in it, they go, you know what? 0.96

01:34:39.000 So what?

01:34:40.000 So what?

01:34:40.000 We don't have a lot.

01:34:41.000 Look at this idiot. 1.00

01:34:43.000 Capitalism needs people like me to go out and do things that are so buffoonish. 1.00

01:34:47.000 It makes people go, you know what?

01:34:49.000 This whole thing, money ain't it.

01:34:51.000 Money ain't it.

01:34:51.000 Let's just go to the lake.

01:34:53.000 But it is something gross about...

01:34:55.000 I like when people... 1.00

01:34:57.000 That don't have money, because I never had money, and then at 37 I had money at like 36, and then you do dumb shit. 0.99

01:35:04.000 My parents had no money. 0.99

01:35:06.000 No one smart does what I do, but that's okay.

01:35:11.000 The only smart thing I've done is I have some houses, so I can't...

01:35:14.000 Pick them up and, you know, snort them or whatever.

01:35:18.000 Right. 1.00

01:35:19.000 But nobody buys the kind of dumb sunglasses or dumb Bentleys. 0.99

01:35:24.000 Nobody does that if they have a clue. 1.00

01:35:26.000 Right.

01:35:26.000 But my parents, my mother was a swim teacher and my father was a wine salesman.

01:35:30.000 They were good people, but we didn't know anything about money.

01:35:33.000 We never learned about money.

01:35:35.000 We had no idea about money.

01:35:38.000 So I just, you know...

01:35:40.000 When you get money, you go, I should do things, like go to Beverly Hills and get a very shiny, gross, grotesque car.

01:35:49.000 Because that's what it is.

01:35:51.000 That's the whole point in Beverly Hills.

01:35:51.000 You get a nice car, you drive up to one of these restaurants, the valets park it, they go, that's a nice car, and then you just go, thank you.

01:36:02.000 That's the whole interaction.

01:36:04.000 That's what you want.

01:36:04.000 Thank you so much.

01:36:05.000 Thank you.

01:36:06.000 You want to get that thank you.

01:36:07.000 You want to get the admiring looks. 0.96

01:36:09.000 What you should tell them is you should go, I live in hell, and then just walk in. 0.94

01:36:12.000 You should go, I'm owned.

01:36:15.000 Because a lot of those people are.

01:36:16.000 You should just go.

01:36:17.000 Especially if you're like at the margins.

01:36:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:19.000 Well, you really shouldn't have that car?

01:36:20.000 That's right.

01:36:21.000 Ooh, there's a lot of people out there living like that.

01:36:23.000 Well, a real estate agent told me once that New York was a $50 million house cash and LA was a $50 million house with a $48 million mortgage.

01:36:32.000 He said, people on the West Coast are just leveraged.

01:36:34.000 The money's newer.

01:36:36.000 It's different.

01:36:37.000 It's not, you know, as old, I guess.

01:36:39.000 So then people just, they're, and there's more like keeping up with the Joneses attitude, perhaps.

01:36:45.000 Well, LA's filled with that.

01:36:47.000 Filled with that.

01:36:48.000 That's the whole thing.

01:36:49.000 It's like fake it till you make it.

01:36:50.000 Right.

01:36:51.000 It's the influencer culture.

01:36:52.000 Right.

01:36:52.000 People are renting houses and cars.

01:36:55.000 That's right.

01:36:55.000 And taking pictures in front of them, like blessed.

01:36:58.000 Yeah.

01:36:58.000 And now I think it's just not even fake it till you make it.

01:37:00.000 It's just fake it till you fake it.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, just keep faking it.

01:37:02.000 Yeah, just keep faking it.

01:37:03.000 You've got to keep faking it.

01:37:04.000 As you make it, fake it harder.

01:37:05.000 That's right.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, and we were just talking about the average price of a home in LA. Is it California itself or LA? California itself.

01:37:14.000 The average price of a home is $1 million, which is absurd.

01:37:19.000 So crazy.

01:37:20.000 It's so crazy.

01:37:21.000 That's so much money.

01:37:22.000 And then the average income is like $60,000, right?

01:37:28.000 62 is the thing I saw.

01:37:29.000 62 is the average income.

01:37:31.000 One million is the average home.

01:37:33.000 It's unsustainable.

01:37:34.000 Yeah, but that's beyond.

01:37:35.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.97

01:37:36.000 Could you imagine the fucking fear that you would have if you had a one million dollar mortgage and you made $60,000 a year? 0.98

01:37:44.000 What's worse about this whole thing? 0.99

01:37:45.000 Go look at the houses for a million bucks.

01:37:47.000 They're dumps.

01:37:48.000 Yeah.

01:37:48.000 They're not even nice.

01:37:49.000 No.

01:37:50.000 Like, it's crazy what you don't get there.

01:37:52.000 Right.

01:37:53.000 You'd have to live in Palmdale to get a nice house for a million dollars.

01:37:55.000 You know what it is?

01:37:56.000 It's pretty.

01:37:58.000 California's the girl that's just hot and forever has been hot.

01:38:02.000 But ruins your life.

01:38:03.000 Right.

01:38:03.000 I mean, it's just pretty.

01:38:04.000 It's stunningly beautiful.

01:38:06.000 There are parts of it, like Montecito or Santa Barbara, you go up there, you go, this is so pretty.

01:38:12.000 But everybody there's houses burned down four times.

01:38:16.000 They're on their third divorce.

01:38:17.000 There's been mudslides.

01:38:19.000 They're kids in rehab.

01:38:20.000 But it's pretty.

01:38:21.000 A lady I looked at with a house up there. 1.00

01:38:25.000 She died in a mudslide.

01:38:26.000 The real estate lady that showed us the house.

01:38:28.000 This is what happens.

01:38:29.000 But they'll tell you that in the way they talk.

01:38:31.000 Santa Barbara.

01:38:32.000 It's always sunset.

01:38:32.000 And they have this voice.

01:38:33.000 And they tell you the worst things about something in the very nice Conway.

01:38:38.000 And they go, this is beautiful.

01:38:39.000 It's a remodel because it burned down.

01:38:41.000 And the family was in it.

01:38:42.000 And that was sad.

01:38:43.000 So weird.

01:38:44.000 But it burned down, and it's a remodel, and they did a great job, and the finishes are beautiful.

01:38:49.000 You're not in the path of the mudslide.

01:38:51.000 You're not in the direct path, but you're in an area that can have seismic activity.

01:38:57.000 We don't love that.

01:38:58.000 You know the fire department, and they got called on this, did the vegetation or something so that when the floods hit, Montecito was kind of spared.

01:39:09.000 They tried, and they got called out on this.

01:39:12.000 Like, the LA Fire Department or whatever was like, they had to do certain things where, like, they prioritize, like, that area over all the other areas.

01:39:21.000 Well, the problem is, like, the fire hits, the vegetation gets burned down, and then they get the mudslides because they don't have anything protecting the erosion anymore.

01:39:30.000 Right.

01:39:30.000 Right?

01:39:31.000 And that's what happened.

01:39:32.000 They had a big-ass fire up there, which they have all the time.

01:39:35.000 I mean, when I lived in L.A., where I lived, we were evacuated three times.

01:39:40.000 Wow.

01:39:40.000 Three times.

01:39:41.000 One time, I mean, you burnt the fucking next door neighbor's house. 0.99

01:39:44.000 Two of them. 0.98

01:39:44.000 Just for clarity, it's by 2030, but it's still like $900,000 right now, I just saw. 0.98

01:39:48.000 Okay.

01:39:49.000 Only $900,000.

01:39:50.000 It's a bargain.

01:39:50.000 That's crazy.

01:39:51.000 It's a bargain for someone to make $62,000 a year.

01:39:54.000 Yeah.

01:39:54.000 Just imagine being in the hole like that.

01:39:56.000 Well, this is the whole problem.

01:39:58.000 Because you can't make, even if you made $62,000 a year and had zero expenses, Right?

01:40:05.000 And didn't have to pay taxes.

01:40:06.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:40:06.000 It still is going to take you fucking forever to pay that off. 0.97

01:40:10.000 You're never going to be able to pay it off. 0.96

01:40:11.000 This is right before we build...

01:40:12.000 We engineered this crisis.

01:40:14.000 We chose...

01:40:15.000 We allowed this to happen.

01:40:16.000 We let foreign billionaires buy stuff.

01:40:18.000 We let our own companies buy residential real estate.

01:40:21.000 We let it all happen.

01:40:22.000 And it's right before...

01:40:23.000 We could enact laws.

01:40:24.000 We could stop it.

01:40:25.000 Anything that's happening could be stopped.

01:40:27.000 But it's right before they start telling people, okay, live in a pod.

01:40:30.000 Live in this pod.

01:40:31.000 This is right before they start introducing, like, Okay, you know what?

01:40:35.000 It's too expensive for you?

01:40:36.000 Guess what?

01:40:37.000 Here's the good news.

01:40:39.000 We've got, and they're just going to 3D printed housing everywhere in the middle of the desert.

01:40:43.000 It's going to be a nightmare.

01:40:43.000 The wildest one is funds, right?

01:40:45.000 Funds buying up houses, residential houses so they can just rent them out.

01:40:48.000 Do it all the time.

01:40:49.000 Yeah, they're doing a lot now.

01:40:50.000 They do it all the time.

01:40:51.000 But I do feel like we are right there where it's going to get so bad, where they're just going to start, whether it's 3D printing or whatever they're doing, where they're just going to have houses and go, here we go.

01:41:00.000 Here we go.

01:41:01.000 They're all together.

01:41:03.000 They're all, you know, they're not great.

01:41:05.000 15 minute city.

01:41:06.000 There's no reason for you to go outside of your 15 minute city.

01:41:08.000 You have it.

01:41:09.000 You have a little park over here.

01:41:10.000 Go to your park.

01:41:11.000 And you're going to live in that and they're going to have an app and your whole life will be an app.

01:41:14.000 There'll be an app with your city.

01:41:16.000 Everything will be on the app.

01:41:18.000 Check in when you get outside the city.

01:41:19.000 You won't need to own a car.

01:41:20.000 You won't need to own a house.

01:41:22.000 It'll be a countdown when you leave the 15 minutes.

01:41:25.000 That's right.

01:41:25.000 You have 40 hours to return.

01:41:28.000 And then climate change is going to be the big reason they'll use.

01:41:32.000 They'll say, because of climate, we're limiting automobile ownership.

01:41:37.000 We're limiting this.

01:41:38.000 We're limiting that.

01:41:40.000 And that seems to be the next step.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, that's a scary one.

01:41:45.000 The climate thing's a scary one.

01:41:47.000 Because they're using it just like they use everything else.

01:41:49.000 And you have to be a good person, so you want to support climate change.

01:41:53.000 You want to support the measures.

01:41:55.000 You want to do your part.

01:41:56.000 You don't want to be a psychopath. 1.00

01:41:58.000 We've got to kill these cows. 1.00

01:42:00.000 They're making methane. 1.00

01:42:01.000 These people are bad people, you know, that are doing these things like leaving their home. 0.99

01:42:07.000 They're sick. 0.97

01:42:08.000 Do you want to be sick?

01:42:09.000 So that's inevitably, I think, what happens is all of these, because all of these things are, it's a crisis that's not, this is not organic.

01:42:17.000 Right.

01:42:17.000 It's not organic that all of these cities are being bought up.

01:42:22.000 None of this was inevitable.

01:42:23.000 All of this could have been stopped.

01:42:26.000 And it is right now not being stopped.

01:42:29.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 Average income, $62,000.

01:42:31.000 Average house, $900,000.

01:42:32.000 And the response to that is...

01:42:34.000 And then what happens when automation takes over 80% of the jobs?

01:42:39.000 Then they got to do the world war. 0.59

01:42:41.000 Then they got to get rid of everybody.

01:42:42.000 Or a lot of people.

01:42:44.000 Do you think when automation takes over, there's some sort of a massive decrease in population?

01:42:49.000 Do you think they provide universal basic income?

01:42:52.000 What do you think they do?

01:42:52.000 I don't know what they do.

01:42:54.000 I think that...

01:42:56.000 It seems like right now they're preparing for a world war.

01:43:00.000 That genuinely, if you were to zoom out and read the news dispassionately, like without wanting any answer to come float to the surface, it seems like they are preparing for a world war.

01:43:15.000 Every article is like, conflict with China inevitable within five years.

01:43:19.000 Say, many generals.

01:43:20.000 Every article.

01:43:21.000 Every Pentagon leak is, U.S. readiness needs to be within five years.

01:43:27.000 A conflict is inevitable, you know?

01:43:29.000 The draft, you know?

01:43:31.000 Military Times, we should bring the draft back. 1.00

01:43:33.000 Like, you know, Europe, the future of Europe is in doubt.

01:43:36.000 So the Military Times said that?

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:39.000 Certainly, recently they had a...

01:43:45.000 There's an article arguing, I believe, for the return of Selective Service, for the draft.

01:43:51.000 And it's definitely something that it's being talked about.

01:43:56.000 You know, Germany talked about it recently because of the Ukraine-Russia thing.

01:43:59.000 And there's this idea now that, yeah...

01:44:02.000 Lawmakers move to automate Selective Service registration for all men.

01:44:10.000 A new plan from the House lawmakers would automatically register men for potential military draft when they hit 18, avoiding potential legal consequences connected to failing to file the paperwork at the proper time.

01:44:22.000 Jesus Christ.

01:44:25.000 Mandate automatic registration of all males between 18 and 26 living in America in the Selective Service System, a federal database used for a military draft in case of national emergency.

01:44:38.000 Huh!

01:44:39.000 Huh!

01:44:40.000 What would that be?

01:44:41.000 Gets fun with the male part.

01:44:43.000 Yeah.

01:44:44.000 Yeah, of course.

01:44:45.000 What about trans men?

01:44:46.000 Trans men are men. 1.00

01:44:48.000 What about them?

01:44:48.000 Trans men are men.

01:44:49.000 Get them in.

01:44:50.000 Yeah.

01:44:50.000 It's time to be men now.

01:44:51.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:44:53.000 Let's go.

01:44:54.000 So it does seem like they're preparing for something. 1.00

01:44:58.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:44:58.000 And it does seem like it's weird. 1.00

01:45:01.000 It's weird.

01:45:02.000 There's a weirdness in the air.

01:45:04.000 100%.

01:45:05.000 There's a weirdness in the air.

01:45:07.000 Yeah.

01:45:07.000 This is late stage civilization vibes.

01:45:11.000 For sure.

01:45:12.000 That's what it is.

01:45:13.000 We've got late stage civilization vibes, no matter how we slice it.

01:45:16.000 We might make it through this.

01:45:17.000 We might look back at this.

01:45:18.000 I hope we do. 0.95

01:45:19.000 Tim and Joe were so crazy.

01:45:21.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:45:21.000 They're making a big deal out of it. 0.97

01:45:22.000 Nothing happened.

01:45:22.000 Or this could be one of those things that people play if you can find a power source.

01:45:26.000 I saved it on my phone.

01:45:28.000 Yeah.

01:45:28.000 Let's watch.

01:45:29.000 They were talking about it.

01:45:30.000 Well, it's also like what scares me more than anything is the people who aren't feeling this way. 0.86

01:45:37.000 Did you see what they did where they gave Starlink internet to Miss Tribe and the Amazon and they all started jerking off? 0.84

01:45:44.000 I talked about it on my show this week. 0.99

01:45:45.000 They're addicted to porn and social media.

01:45:47.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 Instantly.

01:45:50.000 Overnight.

01:45:50.000 The elders, tribe elders are freaking out.

01:45:52.000 They're losing control.

01:45:54.000 Yeah, they thought it was going to be great at first, but now everyone's lazy.

01:45:57.000 No one wants to work.

01:45:57.000 They're all just flipping through their phones all day.

01:45:59.000 They're in the jungle, and they're going through their phones.

01:46:01.000 Sure, because at first it's great to look at a picture of a flower.

01:46:04.000 Yeah.

01:46:04.000 And then three days later, it's like there's guys watching women get choked and kicked and whatever, and now they're losing control.

01:46:12.000 Yeah, they're on TikTok all day.

01:46:14.000 And that's why it's so important that the tech people all be on the same page, for the most part, because that's the way you lose control the quickest.

01:46:27.000 And it seems to be very important and somewhat engineered.

01:46:33.000 Maybe not top-down, but somewhat coincidental that 90% of the tech people are all on the same page about most things.

01:46:41.000 Those are the type of people, though.

01:46:42.000 They're all ideologically captured.

01:46:44.000 That's right.

01:46:45.000 It's all the left.

01:46:46.000 The tech is all the left.

01:46:47.000 There's some libertarians, but very few.

01:46:49.000 Very few.

01:46:50.000 And those are the rebels.

01:46:51.000 To have those people in charge of everything is just so weird.

01:46:54.000 But it was weird because we had Republicans and Democratic bankers for a long time, and no one really cared.

01:46:58.000 But there's something with the tech people where it's like, we can't...

01:47:01.000 It seems like...

01:47:02.000 They don't want to let There be any diversity in thought with that group because the levers they hold are too consequential.

01:47:12.000 But they were that way before the levers were consequential.

01:47:15.000 Sure.

01:47:16.000 Except for Microsoft, right?

01:47:18.000 If you think about Microsoft, they were like liberal, but not financially.

01:47:22.000 Like they were very, very shrewd financially.

01:47:27.000 They're all liberal if you can be liberal and have a $25 million house in Atherton, California.

01:47:33.000 If that's part of it, and I think that's part of the way we've designed liberal in America, then...

01:47:39.000 Well, they're just so removed.

01:47:41.000 They're very removed from the consequences of what they're interested in.

01:47:44.000 And when you talk to them, you do get the feeling that they fully believe, and for good reason, that they control the country now.

01:47:58.000 Yeah, and they think they should.

01:48:00.000 That's right.

01:48:00.000 Because they're the smart ones, and they're on the right side.

01:48:02.000 That's correct.

01:48:03.000 And we have to do everything we can. 1.00

01:48:05.000 And so when they complied with the government, when they eliminated things from social media that were problematic to the narrative, whether it was on YouTube or Twitter or whatever they did, they thought they were doing the right thing and that they should be doing this because these people are stupid. 0.98

01:48:21.000 I think everyone thinks they're doing the right thing. 0.97

01:48:23.000 And I think the thing that surprises me the most is how...

01:48:26.000 A lot of those people, those positions of power aren't cynical. 0.99

01:48:30.000 You really would like them to just go, yeah, it's all bullshit. 0.99

01:48:34.000 We're doing what we have to do. 0.99

01:48:36.000 You'd almost rather that, but they truly believe.

01:48:40.000 They believe.

01:48:40.000 They believe in what they're saying.

01:48:42.000 They really do.

01:48:42.000 They do.

01:48:42.000 And I think that's if you're a deep cover CIA agent, you believe.

01:48:47.000 I think if you're high up in the military, you believe.

01:48:49.000 I think if you're in the tech Industry you believe I think no matter where you are you believe because so much of your identity becomes Dependent on that yes for sure yeah also like I experienced that when I was working on a television show when people used to try to tell me you know oh the government is Programming it and they're programming these shows to make these shows so that we're stupid right people who believe that I'm like you don't understand the people making these shows like these shows and watch these shows they try to make these shows and There's

01:49:20.000 no one telling them to make these shows this way, other than the people that are saying, this would make us money.

01:49:25.000 Right.

01:49:26.000 That's all they're doing?

01:49:27.000 That's right. 1.00

01:49:27.000 You've got this idea that fear factor is designed to make people stupid. 1.00

01:49:33.000 Right. 1.00

01:49:33.000 No, everybody had a good time. 1.00

01:49:34.000 The people making it had a good time.

01:49:36.000 That's right.

01:49:36.000 The people making it watch those shows.

01:49:38.000 They're like, have you seen Survivor?

01:49:39.000 They're all watching them.

01:49:41.000 They're all in the culture.

01:49:42.000 Every time Sam Smith, you know, or somebody dresses up like a devil or tries to do something edgy, everyone talks about, well, this is like this engineered thing.

01:49:51.000 And I'm like, listen, a lot of it is people are trying to get attention.

01:49:56.000 A hundred percent.

01:49:57.000 It's what they're trying to do.

01:49:58.000 Especially Sam Smith.

01:50:00.000 Right.

01:50:01.000 And you can't be...

01:50:03.000 And I talked about it when people were really enraged about it. 0.98

01:50:07.000 And I'm like, if you are going to be a non-binary, I'm different, I'm going to sell sex, you can't look like my uncle. 1.00

01:50:17.000 And that's what Sam Smith looked. 0.99

01:50:19.000 And they were like, well, no, he's a Satanist.

01:50:21.000 I go, if Satan saw him and said, that's who's my representative on earth, Sam Smith looks like my uncle at Halloween party, who's drunk.

01:50:31.000 That's what he looked like.

01:50:32.000 He does.

01:50:32.000 He really does.

01:50:33.000 He looks like a guy like me or somebody I would have grown up with.

01:50:36.000 He doesn't look like a rock star at all.

01:50:37.000 No.

01:50:38.000 So he doesn't have that Bowie thing.

01:50:40.000 He doesn't have that sexy thing.

01:50:40.000 I think it's far less they're putting messages into corrupt people.

01:50:45.000 I think maybe there's people that certainly do that.

01:50:49.000 I think overall it's that...

01:50:53.000 People are lazy and want attention.

01:50:56.000 Yeah.

01:50:56.000 And it's a lot easier to get attention that way than to keep being good at something.

01:51:01.000 Dressing up like the devil is one of the best ways to get attention.

01:51:04.000 That's right.

01:51:05.000 It's one of the oldest ways.

01:51:06.000 Do you remember the outrage for the Lil Nas X video?

01:51:09.000 Of course.

01:51:09.000 Where he gave Satan a lap dance?

01:51:11.000 Yes.

01:51:11.000 He had the blood.

01:51:14.000 And again, I'm not saying it's great for a five-year-old, but it's like, focus more on the houses being a million bucks Focus more on all that stuff because that's the stuff I think that in the long term...

01:51:26.000 Focus more on the potential draft.

01:51:27.000 Focus more on the potential draft.

01:51:29.000 In the long term, that's what seems to matter.

01:51:33.000 Yeah, but nobody is...

01:51:35.000 People are just so easily distracted by a good Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef.

01:51:40.000 Sure.

01:51:40.000 It's so exciting to have all these things happening all the time.

01:51:45.000 It's fun.

01:51:46.000 It's just a weird fucking time that doesn't seem like it has any... 0.94

01:51:52.000 There's no patterns that I could see from the past, because everything's so accelerated by technology. 0.96

01:51:58.000 You could look at the chaos in the 1960s.

01:52:00.000 I know they threw water on that in the 70s.

01:52:03.000 In the 80s, it was all cocaine.

01:52:04.000 In the 90s, it took until the 2000, the internet comes around, for people to start exploring some of the ideas that people were really connected to in the 60s.

01:52:13.000 Yeah.

01:52:13.000 But now here we are, no roadmap.

01:52:16.000 No roadmap and everything is fucking chaotic. 0.98

01:52:19.000 Everything's chaotic. 0.96

01:52:20.000 But also maybe we'll get like a nice abatement.

01:52:25.000 Like maybe, for whatever reason, It doesn't go in the direction that it seems like it's going.

01:52:32.000 Yeah.

01:52:33.000 And that it has like a dead cat bounce.

01:52:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:52:40.000 We're like, you know, you get 20 or 30 years out of this place or more.

01:52:44.000 Right.

01:52:45.000 Because you don't want a war and you don't want nukes to fly and you don't want all this stuff happening.

01:52:49.000 No.

01:52:50.000 And you're doing all this while they can AI operate weapons now.

01:52:55.000 Yes.

01:52:55.000 Including jets.

01:52:56.000 Fighter jets that are using AI. We have drones now that are insanely...

01:53:01.000 And we probably have UFOs.

01:53:03.000 Sure. 1.00

01:53:04.000 I think a good percentage of that shit these people are seeing. 0.99

01:53:07.000 When can you charter a UFO? That'll be fun. 0.99

01:53:09.000 Soon.

01:53:09.000 You can charter a private jet.

01:53:10.000 You should be able to charter a UFO. Yeah.

01:53:12.000 There's already people that are doing SpaceX flights, right?

01:53:15.000 Yeah, you can go.

01:53:16.000 You can leave our flat Earth.

01:53:18.000 Wow. 0.99

01:53:19.000 You can see the firmosphere or whatever the fuck is. 0.98

01:53:21.000 You can see whatever it is. 0.98

01:53:23.000 The firmament.

01:53:24.000 There should be a flat Earth tour that will take you to space and only show you part of it.

01:53:28.000 Yeah.

01:53:29.000 They should just give you special glasses where it looks flat.

01:53:31.000 My friend's mother's a flat earther. 0.82

01:53:33.000 He goes, what does she do?

01:53:34.000 He goes, how do we help?

01:53:36.000 I go, I don't know.

01:53:37.000 One of my friends, Eddie Bravo, thinks earth's flat.

01:53:39.000 I love him to death.

01:53:40.000 Yeah, what are you going to do?

01:53:41.000 He watches too many YouTube videos.

01:53:43.000 There's quite a few people that think it's flat.

01:53:45.000 The problem is, it's a biblical thing.

01:53:49.000 A lot of it is based on the depictions of earth and the firmament and all these different things in the Bible.

01:53:54.000 Which, by the way, was written by people.

01:53:57.000 This idea that people back then had it all laid out perfectly.

01:54:01.000 It's not true.

01:54:01.000 And that the Word of God was translated absolutely perfectly and nobody ever added their own special sauce to the mix like they do with everything.

01:54:10.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:54:11.000 With everything ever.

01:54:13.000 No, it's definitely interesting.

01:54:15.000 And I think seeing the battle between these ancient texts and the most modern technology and seeing how they fuse together is going to make the planet very interesting.

01:54:28.000 Sure.

01:54:29.000 Ancient texts fuse together with YouTube.

01:54:30.000 That's right.

01:54:31.000 What is this?

01:54:31.000 Japanese billionaire pulls plug on private dear moon lunar starship mission.

01:54:36.000 Huh.

01:54:37.000 Why?

01:54:37.000 I don't know about this.

01:54:38.000 This just got announced this week.

01:54:40.000 Well, how much money would it cost?

01:54:42.000 I mean, you could go to the moon?

01:54:44.000 Is that what the idea was?

01:54:45.000 Yeah, they remember like Steve Aoki was gonna be on this.

01:54:48.000 Oh, I was trying to tell Steve, don't do that.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, it's this plan.

01:54:51.000 Can't we go to the moon?

01:54:53.000 No.

01:54:53.000 No one's ever been, so how can we go?

01:54:55.000 Well, there's got to be first person.

01:54:57.000 Do you think people went to the moon?

01:54:58.000 I have no idea.

01:54:59.000 I had Bart Sabrell on the podcast.

01:55:01.000 And do you think they did?

01:55:02.000 Do you know who he is?

01:55:03.000 Yeah.

01:55:04.000 Of course you do.

01:55:05.000 You're deep in the conspiracy world.

01:55:07.000 Well, I'm deep in the truth.

01:55:08.000 That guy's been on that forever.

01:55:11.000 I had dinner with him like 20 years ago.

01:55:15.000 Right.

01:55:15.000 At least.

01:55:16.000 Yeah.

01:55:16.000 Somewhere around 20 years ago, I met with him in an Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills.

01:55:20.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 And he was just laying out his case.

01:55:23.000 Yeah.

01:55:23.000 Why the moon landing was fake.

01:55:24.000 I mean, dude, there was a book called Penetration by this guy Ignacio Swan, who's one of these remote viewing guys.

01:55:30.000 And that's what got me into that stuff.

01:55:32.000 Like, some of that more stuff.

01:55:33.000 He wrote this book, and it was about remote viewing and how, like, the government was using remote viewing.

01:55:38.000 They definitely were trying to use it.

01:55:40.000 They were trying to use it, and whether they succeeded or not, but...

01:55:43.000 You know, I don't know.

01:55:44.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:55:45.000 Is it pretty accepted that we didn't go to the moon?

01:55:48.000 No.

01:55:49.000 No.

01:55:49.000 I mean, it's controversial still.

01:55:52.000 It's amongst conspiracy theorists.

01:55:57.000 Amongst those folks, yeah.

01:55:58.000 None of those folks think we went to the moon. 0.96

01:56:00.000 They think it was all horseshit.

01:56:02.000 Some people think we went to the moon, but we faked the footage. 0.96

01:56:05.000 Right.

01:56:06.000 That's so us, by the way.

01:56:08.000 Because there's radiation of space.

01:56:10.000 That's so us. 0.99

01:56:10.000 Such an us thing to do, to do it, and then actually go, fuck it, we've got to film something. 0.99

01:56:15.000 There's also, like, there is precedent that they did use certain photos that were from, obviously, from training missions. 0.96

01:56:22.000 Right.

01:56:23.000 And then they blacked out the background and tried to pretend these are photos of spacewalks.

01:56:26.000 Right.

01:56:27.000 Because if someone's like doing a spacewalk, like there's one of, what's his name?

01:56:33.000 Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, who's the other guy?

01:56:36.000 Michael Collins.

01:56:37.000 There's Michael Collins in the Gemini 15. And what they did was, but this could be overzealous PR people that are doing this, right?

01:56:44.000 Sure.

01:56:45.000 They took a photograph of a mission where he was in a training mission and he's suspended by cables and they're teaching him how to use the spacewalk stuff.

01:56:55.000 And then they reversed the image and blacked it out, blacked out the background.

01:56:59.000 See if you can find that.

01:57:01.000 So those types of things give people an indication that there's a problem.

01:57:05.000 Well, they give you an indication that there's a pattern of deception.

01:57:08.000 They're willing to lie. 0.97

01:57:09.000 That they're willing to at least fuck with the truth for publicity purposes because they want good photographs of something. 0.96

01:57:16.000 Is there ever been like a NASA whistleblower? 0.94

01:57:18.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

01:57:20.000 So that's it.

01:57:21.000 So they took the photo on the left and then they just reversed it to the photo on the right and blacked out the screen.

01:57:27.000 So the one on the left, obviously, they're in a training mission.

01:57:30.000 The one on the right, they're pretending it's space, which is pretty wild. 0.92

01:57:34.000 I mean, really pretty fucking wild that they did that. 0.66

01:57:36.000 That is wild. 0.98

01:57:37.000 It's wild.

01:57:38.000 You know, Boeing, more whistleblowers came out.

01:57:42.000 More, yeah.

01:57:42.000 There's like 11 now.

01:57:43.000 There's two more whistleblowers.

01:57:44.000 Well, two of them were murdered, right?

01:57:46.000 Well, yeah, but I love Boeing.

01:57:47.000 Do you think they were murdered?

01:57:48.000 Or did they commit suicide?

01:57:49.000 What happened to those folks?

01:57:50.000 I think they were murdered.

01:57:52.000 What's the story?

01:57:53.000 It was the official story about the two Boeing whistleblowers who got whacked.

01:57:58.000 Boeing's a national security company.

01:57:59.000 It's an American defense contractor.

01:58:02.000 You're working for Boeing, you're working for the government.

01:58:04.000 You come out and whistleblow? 0.99

01:58:06.000 How did the fucking FBI like that? 1.00

01:58:08.000 They'll get rid of you, too, if you start in... 1.00

01:58:11.000 Whistleblowing.

01:58:11.000 What's the official cause of death for the two folks?

01:58:14.000 I don't know.

01:58:14.000 The guy was sitting in his car.

01:58:16.000 He shot himself.

01:58:17.000 One was suicide.

01:58:18.000 One was suicide because he was sad.

01:58:20.000 I would be sad too if I disparaged a great company like Boeing.

01:58:23.000 I love Boeing.

01:58:24.000 I've always loved Boeing.

01:58:25.000 He probably realized, what have I done to disparage this great company? 0.99

01:58:29.000 He probably sucked as a guy. 0.99

01:58:30.000 No, whistleblowers aren't fun. 1.00

01:58:32.000 Right.

01:58:32.000 There's never been a whistleblower that's fun.

01:58:34.000 Maybe he was a fake whistleblower and he knew the house of cards was coming down, no pun intended.

01:58:38.000 You probably went out with him and he always talked about how unsafe these planes were and you're like, dude, shut up. 0.96

01:58:42.000 Right. 1.00

01:58:43.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:58:43.000 I'd fly all the time. 1.00

01:58:44.000 A lot of people do.

01:58:45.000 He's basically like a flat earther.

01:58:47.000 Yeah, right.

01:58:48.000 I don't want to know how bad the planes are.

01:58:50.000 Let them crash.

01:58:51.000 Let one of them crash.

01:58:52.000 Here's the deal.

01:58:53.000 No one's going to fix it, so just don't bother me.

01:58:56.000 Fifty Boeing whistleblowers still want to talk safety fears despite two informants dying after speaking out. 0.98

01:59:02.000 They'll kill 50 of them, too. 0.91

01:59:03.000 Don't think they won't. 1.00

01:59:04.000 50 people can commit suicide if they're wrong.

01:59:06.000 50 people can absolutely commit suicide.

01:59:08.000 Especially if they're disparaging a great company like Boeing.

01:59:11.000 What does it say here?

01:59:13.000 John Barnett, 62, a quality control engineer, had just begun testimony in a lawsuit against Boeing in March when he was found in his truck at a South Carolina motel with a fatal self-inflicted gunshot wound.

01:59:25.000 Yeah, that's a little fishy.

01:59:27.000 Joshua Dean, 45, died unexpectedly in early May.

01:59:31.000 The quality auditor at Spirit Aerosystems, one of Boeing's biggest suppliers, passed away in the hospital following the onset of a fast-moving infection.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, they can do that to you.

01:59:41.000 Sure.

01:59:42.000 They can do that to you.

01:59:43.000 They can give you an infection. 1.00

01:59:44.000 And they certainly can shoot you in the head. 0.99

01:59:47.000 They can do all of that. 1.00

01:59:48.000 Yeah, they can definitely shoot you in the head. 1.00

01:59:49.000 And their attitude is like, hey, you know, can you not fuck up our thing? 0.99

01:59:58.000 Yeah, we're trying to fix it. 0.97

01:59:59.000 We don't need you whistleblowing.

02:00:00.000 We're trying to fix it.

02:00:02.000 You're not helping.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, what are you doing? 0.93

02:00:04.000 You're killing yourself? 0.91

02:00:05.000 You want attention.

02:00:07.000 James Lindsay has a very interesting take on this.

02:00:11.000 He thinks that China...

02:00:15.000 They own a competitor to the Boeing planes.

02:00:19.000 I think the strategy is to destabilize Boeing and have the Chinese planes take over.

02:00:25.000 So they're killing the whistleblowers?

02:00:26.000 No, there's some sort of a push to get this Chinese jet company to get their products.

02:00:33.000 They're more safe.

02:00:34.000 They're better.

02:00:35.000 Let's just take those.

02:00:38.000 Maybe, but Boeing is so deeply enmeshed in the national security apparatus, I can't see that ever happening.

02:00:43.000 Right.

02:00:43.000 There's no way that we...

02:00:45.000 But if you wanted to do something like that, how would you do it? 0.99

02:00:47.000 You would fuck with the safety protocols. 0.97

02:00:50.000 I mean, we do depend on too much for national security. 0.99

02:00:55.000 We do depend on too many things from China.

02:00:58.000 Already.

02:00:58.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:59.000 Medicine.

02:01:00.000 Like, all of that.

02:01:01.000 Like, not only medicine, but, like, chips.

02:01:03.000 You know, what's that thing?

02:01:04.000 What do they do?

02:01:04.000 Is it reactors?

02:01:06.000 Or what do they buy?

02:01:06.000 What do they...

02:01:07.000 What do we...

02:01:08.000 They basically said, we're not selling you these anymore.

02:01:11.000 Well, they're in charge of so many of the mines.

02:01:13.000 That's right.

02:01:14.000 You know, so many of the mines in the Congo are being run by China.

02:01:16.000 So I don't know if we'd be so... 1.00

02:01:18.000 Stupid to just start buying all their stuff, but maybe. 1.00

02:01:22.000 Hmm. 1.00

02:01:23.000 It's a possibility.

02:01:24.000 China's homegrown 737 competitor has to wait a while to fill the vacuum left by Boeing.

02:01:31.000 Europe says the C-O-M-A Comac. 1.00

02:01:33.000 C-19.

02:01:34.000 C-19 is too new to approve by 2026. So they have their own version.

02:01:40.000 So if they're playing a long game, what better way to destabilize the competitor than just, listen, we need to save money.

02:01:48.000 Let's cut back on some of these safety inspectors and have the mechanics do their own safety inspection. 0.89

02:01:52.000 Absolutely.

02:01:53.000 Done.

02:01:53.000 We're good.

02:01:53.000 If you just put that little piece in place, if you just did that, And you just take into account people's laziness and how people suck at their job already, and then there's no oversight for the mechanics?

02:02:04.000 What's the possibility that mistakes are going to be made?

02:02:07.000 A hundred percent.

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:08.000 Well, corporate espionage is probably one of their strongest talents and one of the things they've excelled at.

02:02:14.000 Imagine if that's how they do it, though.

02:02:16.000 Yeah.

02:02:16.000 If Lindsay's right.

02:02:17.000 When he said that to me, I was like, Jesus Christ.

02:02:19.000 He might be right.

02:02:20.000 He might be right. 0.98

02:02:21.000 I just don't want to sit in a plane and be fucking nervous. 0.97

02:02:24.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

02:02:25.000 For no reason.

02:02:26.000 Yeah, but you don't have to ask. 1.00

02:02:27.000 I want the Boeing people to shut their fucking mouths, let this thing go down the runway, let me feel like it's okay, and if it happens, it happens. 0.99

02:02:39.000 You know what the ultimate conspiracy theory is? 1.00

02:02:41.000 Yeah.

02:02:42.000 That Trump has a Boeing plane, and that's why they're doing this.

02:02:45.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:02:47.000 I gotcha with that one.

02:02:48.000 That's something wild.

02:02:50.000 That one got you excited.

02:02:51.000 That is interesting.

02:02:53.000 Imagine that.

02:02:54.000 Imagine that.

02:02:54.000 Imagine that's what they did.

02:02:56.000 What happens if he dies?

02:02:58.000 Imagine that.

02:02:59.000 I don't know. 0.75

02:03:00.000 How crazy is it going to be if he gets whacked?

02:03:03.000 I don't know if they're going to do that.

02:03:04.000 I think they're going to try to go to war with China.

02:03:07.000 I think they're going to go to war somehow.

02:03:09.000 I think they're going to...

02:03:11.000 If...

02:03:13.000 They are going to do anything. 0.96

02:03:15.000 I think they just fucking try to do something that either delays an election or makes an election harder to have or something. 0.95

02:03:26.000 I don't know. 0.97

02:03:27.000 But if they were going to do something...

02:03:30.000 It might be that.

02:03:32.000 And I don't know.

02:03:32.000 And they may do nothing.

02:03:33.000 They may just have a fair election.

02:03:35.000 I don't know.

02:03:38.000 But this is the question.

02:03:39.000 This is what we were talking about earlier.

02:03:42.000 They're willing to deceive us with the Steele dossier.

02:03:44.000 That's right.

02:03:45.000 They're willing to deceive us with what they did with Bernie.

02:03:48.000 Yes.

02:03:49.000 What they did with RFK Jr. in the primary. 0.98

02:03:52.000 If they're willing to do all that, why would we think that they wouldn't fuck with the election? 0.99

02:03:56.000 Like, this is the one thing that they wouldn't fuck with. 0.98

02:03:58.000 And then if you question it at all, especially Trump, because nobody really cared when everybody else questioned the elections. 0.99

02:04:06.000 Nobody cared when Hillary went around forever questioning the elections. 1.00

02:04:10.000 Nobody cared.

02:04:10.000 Everybody has questioned elections in this country for a very long time.

02:04:15.000 Standard move.

02:04:16.000 Bush v.

02:04:16.000 Gore.

02:04:17.000 Remember the court case?

02:04:19.000 Yes.

02:04:19.000 It's kind of a standard move.

02:04:21.000 Standard move.

02:04:22.000 It's been getting more and more malevolent in the sense that after Trump won, it was a whole thing with Russia.

02:04:30.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:31.000 And then, I don't know, I haven't looked at any specific evidence for the fuckery, but I think there's probably fuckery all over the place. 0.99

02:04:37.000 There's probably fuckery in every election. 1.00

02:04:38.000 There's gotta be some. 0.98

02:04:40.000 It's not zero.

02:04:41.000 The amount of election fraud isn't zero.

02:04:44.000 This one, they have to do something big.

02:04:46.000 This one will have to be, if something's gonna happen, it's probably gonna have to be something big.

02:04:53.000 They're gonna have to wag the dog on such a, you know, in such a way that America's like, whoa.

02:05:03.000 And they're already, there's some articles coming out being like, you know, could a foreign government perhaps take advantage of, you know?

02:05:10.000 Yeah.

02:05:11.000 So who knows what they're playing?

02:05:12.000 I just know that They don't want him in in a way that I've never seen.

02:05:20.000 Never.

02:05:20.000 It's never been more transparent.

02:05:22.000 It's never been more transparent how much they do not want him in.

02:05:26.000 And I'm not even saying that you can't criticize him or you have to love him or anything.

02:05:32.000 I'm just speaking simply, again, from looking at The measures taken since he announced a candidacy.

02:05:39.000 And here's what's really crazy.

02:05:41.000 I think they thought they did enough propaganda-wise before 2016 for him to lose.

02:05:46.000 Yes.

02:05:47.000 So when you watch all the news reports and all their coverage, it was like 90% Hillary was going to win. 1.00

02:05:53.000 That's right. 0.99

02:05:54.000 And then as the night went on, everybody was like, holy shit, he won. 0.99

02:05:58.000 So they went through the egg on their face. 1.00

02:06:00.000 They went through all that.

02:06:01.000 They're not going to let that happen again.

02:06:03.000 And now...

02:06:05.000 He's an overwhelming favorite.

02:06:07.000 Yes.

02:06:08.000 Like, he's a favorite.

02:06:08.000 If the election happened now and the election was fair, he would win.

02:06:12.000 Right?

02:06:12.000 Yes.

02:06:13.000 Like, he's several points ahead of Biden, right?

02:06:15.000 That's right.

02:06:15.000 What's the latest polls?

02:06:17.000 Because he went up in the polls after the conviction.

02:06:20.000 Which was such a mistake for them to try to do that because he raised $40 million, something like that.

02:06:26.000 No, it's way more than that now.

02:06:28.000 Maybe more.

02:06:28.000 I think it's like $100 million.

02:06:30.000 It crashed his campaign website.

02:06:31.000 Yeah.

02:06:32.000 Yeah.

02:06:33.000 What is that poll?

02:06:34.000 How do they, like, question everybody real quick?

02:06:36.000 Like, when some news breaks?

02:06:38.000 Like, what do you think now?

02:06:39.000 Right.

02:06:40.000 Who are they questioning?

02:06:40.000 At 6 p.m., how do they get a new update?

02:06:41.000 Well, I always say this. 0.99

02:06:43.000 They're only getting results from people dumb enough to answer polls. 0.99

02:06:46.000 So that, by the way, is a skewed response. 0.99

02:06:49.000 For sure.

02:06:50.000 Polls in today's day and age...

02:06:52.000 There's no reason to answer them.

02:06:54.000 Why are you doing that?

02:06:55.000 But there's also a social stigma to saying Trump.

02:06:56.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:57.000 So I think that you have to weigh the numbers like that.

02:07:01.000 Right.

02:07:01.000 So there is a little bit of a social stigma to saying Trump.

02:07:05.000 Or certainly there was.

02:07:07.000 Maybe it's going away, but there was.

02:07:08.000 So you might want to weight the poll.

02:07:11.000 To that as well.

02:07:13.000 That's 100% true.

02:07:14.000 And go, there's a certain percentage of people that are lying and saying Biden who aren't going to vote for Biden.

02:07:19.000 Right.

02:07:20.000 So a close race might really mean that Trump is up a few percentage points.

02:07:24.000 I think he's up a few percentage points already.

02:07:27.000 I think he was up like six points.

02:07:28.000 And I think I've talked to a lot of hardcore leftists that are like really resigned to him winning and don't care.

02:07:34.000 Because they say- Maybe it'll be better for the economy.

02:07:37.000 Well, they said, we did not vote for Biden to go to war with Russia through Ukraine.

02:07:44.000 We didn't vote for- Jack up inflation.

02:07:46.000 Jack up inflation.

02:07:47.000 We didn't vote for an unending commitment to whatever Israel wants to do in Gaza.

02:07:51.000 We didn't vote for house prices being higher than they've ever been, interest rates being higher than they've ever been.

02:07:57.000 We didn't vote for any of that.

02:08:00.000 He's done a lot for the environment, Biden, supposedly.

02:08:03.000 But also a lot of people didn't vote for all the taxes that come along with that.

02:08:08.000 What is the new one they're doing?

02:08:09.000 They're going after the guy from the Epoch Times.

02:08:13.000 For embezzlement or something?

02:08:15.000 Epoch Times is hardcore, right-wing side.

02:08:19.000 Which is hilarious.

02:08:20.000 Epoch Times is hilarious.

02:08:22.000 That is funny.

02:08:23.000 This is the end.

02:08:24.000 Welcome to the end.

02:08:26.000 Money laundering.

02:08:28.000 Charges.

02:08:29.000 Alleged $67 million global money laundering scheme.

02:08:33.000 So what's...

02:08:33.000 See, this is the headline, right?

02:08:36.000 What's the actual story?

02:08:37.000 What's a good place to go?

02:08:39.000 Probably AP is probably the more balanced... 0.99

02:08:41.000 Go to AP, just for the fuck of it. 0.99

02:08:43.000 All right. 0.99

02:08:44.000 What will become of the Epoch Times as chief financial officer accused of money laundering?

02:08:48.000 Okay.

02:08:49.000 What is the accusation?

02:08:50.000 What is Epoch Times?

02:08:52.000 Do-do-do-do-do.

02:08:53.000 Federal prosecutors in New York charged...

02:08:55.000 Boy, say that dude's name.

02:08:57.000 Weidong Guan of Seacaucus, New Jersey, chief financial officer of the Epoch Times of steering at least $67 million in criminal proceeds, much from fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits to the company.

02:09:11.000 It's affiliates and himself.

02:09:12.000 Guan pleaded not guilty, but was suspended by the Epoch Times, which agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

02:09:19.000 The case falls into question the future of a company that was a key online supporter of Trump and a spreader of conspiracy theories.

02:09:26.000 Hmm.

02:09:27.000 So what is the $67 million of unemployment?

02:09:32.000 That's what it's saying?

02:09:34.000 How did they do it?

02:09:36.000 How'd they do that?

02:09:38.000 This is all just like, what does it mean for the Epoch Times?

02:09:42.000 But what is like, how did he do it?

02:09:46.000 They don't say what they're accusing him of?

02:09:50.000 I think that was, I mean...

02:09:52.000 Accusing him of stealing money.

02:09:56.000 Stealing money.

02:09:57.000 Laundering money, I guess, and that's...

02:09:59.000 You would think.

02:10:00.000 A top executive at Epoch.

02:10:02.000 So he's just a guy that worked there.

02:10:03.000 A right-wing media company has been arrested and charged with laundering at least $67 million.

02:10:08.000 So he might have actually done it.

02:10:10.000 And they might just, I mean, they're not trying to close the company, right?

02:10:15.000 He's just the chief financial officer.

02:10:17.000 Right.

02:10:18.000 Right?

02:10:18.000 So he might have actually done it.

02:10:20.000 I don't know.

02:10:22.000 Chief financial officer was arrested Monday in the indictment, headed up on May 23rd, was unsealed.

02:10:26.000 He entered a plea of not guilty as a lawyer, a federal public defender.

02:10:30.000 Why does he have a public defender?

02:10:33.000 I guess he lost all his money.

02:10:35.000 Is that?

02:10:35.000 That seems crazy.

02:10:36.000 Is that how it works?

02:10:37.000 That seems odd.

02:10:39.000 That seems crazy.

02:10:41.000 Decline to comment.

02:10:41.000 If convicted, Mr. Guan faces a maximum sentence of 20 years for the money laundering charge and 30 years for each bank fraud.

02:10:50.000 Oh, jeez. 1.00

02:10:50.000 He's fucked. 1.00

02:10:51.000 Epoch Times is affiliated with Falun Gong, a spiritual movement banned in China, and was for years an obscure free print newspaper dedicated largely to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party. 1.00

02:11:04.000 In recent years, the outlet transformed itself into a prominent supporter We're good to go.

02:11:32.000 The debit cards were loaded with illegally obtained funds, prosecutors said, some of which was fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits.

02:11:40.000 Oh, wow.

02:11:42.000 This seems deep. 0.99

02:11:44.000 But hold, please, because if you're fucking the type of dude who has a website that's basically dedicated to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party, and then all of a sudden you flip and become a pro-Trump supporter, that sounds to me like one of those fucking Facebook pages that Russia takes over. 0.98

02:12:01.000 Yes. 0.98

02:12:01.000 They used to have a memes page. 0.98

02:12:04.000 And then it's a Black Lives Matter page, and then it becomes a trans rights page.

02:12:08.000 There's a ton of those folks out there grifting. 0.84

02:12:11.000 If one of those guys was also involved in an illegal laundering scheme, yeah, that seems like...

02:12:16.000 Go and sow some chaos.

02:12:17.000 That's probably what they do.

02:12:18.000 Go sow some chaos.

02:12:19.000 It's a great job.

02:12:20.000 I'd like to do it in China for us. 0.85

02:12:23.000 I mean, if they're hiring these, why can't America, let's get an army of lunatics, people like me, send me into China, I'll start a problem. 0.99

02:12:31.000 They'd kill me quickly. 0.98

02:12:33.000 Yeah, you couldn't do it there. 1.00

02:12:34.000 That's why we lacked the advantages, because you could come here and really start some shit. 0.98

02:12:40.000 Do you think that our government is doing that here, too? 0.98

02:12:44.000 I think elements of it probably are for sure.

02:12:46.000 They have to be.

02:12:47.000 They have to be.

02:12:48.000 They must be.

02:12:49.000 If China is doing that, and we know that Russia is doing that, we know that they're doing that.

02:12:55.000 Well, then what would Navalny have been?

02:12:56.000 Let's think about this, right?

02:12:58.000 Now, Navalny might be.

02:12:59.000 He might be.

02:13:01.000 A great Russian patriot who was disgusted with Vladimir Putin.

02:13:06.000 I do know he started his career with very different views than the views he began espousing after.

02:13:12.000 He seems like a guy that the CIA has a conversation with and then becomes a prominent...

02:13:21.000 I'm not saying that it's possible.

02:13:25.000 We're doing things like that, probably.

02:13:28.000 And then they're doing things to us where they're like, making my aunt kind of more racist. 0.95

02:13:36.000 They're starting with a pretty racist person, but they're twisting her and they're getting her more racist. 1.00

02:13:43.000 With memes? 1.00

02:13:43.000 With memes and with all kinds of crap. 1.00

02:13:46.000 Things they share that might not even be true. 0.97

02:13:48.000 Yeah, she's like a long island. 0.91

02:13:50.000 Because these Long Island boomers now, they're just throwing stuff at them and they're just catching it with their teeth like a dog. 1.00

02:13:58.000 They share it to their aunt on Facebook.

02:14:00.000 And they just share it and they don't know what's going on.

02:14:03.000 And they're just kind of like, it's all, you know, it's all not my mom's, my friend's mother thinks McDonald's is serving human meat.

02:14:12.000 So that's where we are.

02:14:13.000 A certain percentage of the population is schizophrenic because they can't handle all the stuff we talked about here. 0.88

02:14:19.000 It's hard for people to realize how corrupt things are, but how they've always been.

02:14:23.000 So if you learn all of this in an hour, your mind melts.

02:14:27.000 And then you start going, is Chrissy Teigen a vampire?

02:14:33.000 Because it's like up is down and black is white.

02:14:37.000 It's too much information.

02:14:38.000 It's too much information.

02:14:39.000 But if you know about JFK or RFK or Martin Luther King or Quintelper or anything, you have the context to put a lot of this stuff in.

02:14:49.000 So you're not like, oh, your mind doesn't melt immediately.

02:14:54.000 Right.

02:14:55.000 It melts slowly.

02:14:56.000 Real slow.

02:14:57.000 Yeah.

02:14:58.000 Yeah, if you just can keep people fighting about everything and everything being something that they have to uncover and all this chaos, you can get a lot done behind the scenes.

02:15:08.000 You need to.

02:15:09.000 You have to have people completely scattered, have no...

02:15:13.000 Yeah, you can't have people calm and everybody fine and paying attention to what you're doing.

02:15:18.000 And then you got to bless it.

02:15:19.000 You got to go every now and then you got to go, you know, and then there's like an NFT party.

02:15:24.000 Everybody has like a time where the crypto is killing it and everybody gets a little money and then they go, okay, well, we got to clamp down on this.

02:15:31.000 Right.

02:15:31.000 And then the internet's free and they're like, man, let's clamp down on this.

02:15:35.000 And it's just they oscillate between clamping down on things and then letting people run with them for a little bit. 0.99

02:15:41.000 God damn it. 0.98

02:15:42.000 It's a delicate balance. 0.99

02:15:44.000 Can you imagine being in charge of chaos?

02:15:46.000 Do you think there's a guy that runs a chaos department in the deep state?

02:15:51.000 Well, I think there's many guys that do.

02:15:54.000 And ladies. 0.96

02:15:56.000 Let's not forget them.

02:15:57.000 What is their view of the world?

02:15:58.000 If they're the ones that are instigating all this chaos...

02:16:02.000 And they're the ones that are fueling it online.

02:16:04.000 If they're working to actively do that and comment on things on Twitter and get things crazy, what is their view of the world?

02:16:13.000 They must be so cynical.

02:16:14.000 I think the only view those people have ever had is the alternative is worse.

02:16:21.000 Right.

02:16:22.000 I think that's the only view they've had.

02:16:24.000 I think when they were doing MKUltra on people, I think they were going, the alternative is worse.

02:16:31.000 It's worse.

02:16:32.000 And you can justify a lot of things.

02:16:34.000 When they were carpet bombing Vietnam, it's the alternative is worse. 0.98

02:16:37.000 I think that's kind of the only view that those guys can have in that echelon of the national security apparatus.

02:16:46.000 They can't, I don't think they're analyzing it too much outside of that.

02:16:50.000 Right.

02:16:51.000 Jesus Christ.

02:16:52.000 Yeah.

02:16:53.000 This does not leave me feeling good, Tim.

02:16:56.000 I was hoping to be more...

02:16:58.000 Well, we're going to tell jokes.

02:17:01.000 Tonight.

02:17:01.000 Tonight should be fun.

02:17:03.000 It's fun to tell jokes.

02:17:04.000 Are you splitting your time?

02:17:06.000 You're all over the place now? 0.56

02:17:07.000 I'm all over the place.

02:17:08.000 I spend most of my time in the French protectorate in Monaco, where I find honest people.

02:17:15.000 And I mean...

02:17:16.000 It's so good to have honest people around you.

02:17:19.000 I'm very susceptible to environments.

02:17:21.000 There's a lot of people that live on boats over there.

02:17:23.000 No, no, no.

02:17:23.000 I'm all over the place.

02:17:24.000 Me and Sam Talent were just in Europe for like three weeks.

02:17:27.000 It was amazing.

02:17:28.000 I'm here.

02:17:28.000 Sam was just here.

02:17:29.000 I'm going to spend a lot of time here, I think, in the summer and fall because now I'm off the road.

02:17:32.000 So it's like, I'm going to be here.

02:17:34.000 I'll be popping into LA a little bit.

02:17:36.000 Nice.

02:17:37.000 I'll be around.

02:17:38.000 We're doing something cool with Netflix.

02:17:40.000 We can't say it.

02:17:41.000 It's not a stand-up special.

02:17:42.000 It's something cool.

02:17:43.000 It's like an election-type special thing.

02:17:45.000 Oh, that's exciting.

02:17:47.000 Yeah.

02:17:48.000 It'll be fun, and I'm excited about that.

02:17:51.000 It's just fun to do fun stuff, and who knows?

02:17:55.000 We don't know.

02:17:56.000 It's fun.

02:17:57.000 It could all work out.

02:18:00.000 It could all work out.

02:18:01.000 It probably will all work out.

02:18:03.000 That's right.

02:18:03.000 I mean, you can look back on...

02:18:05.000 There's an Assyrian tablet, I think.

02:18:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:18:08.000 Fucking 4,000 years ago or something like that. 0.98

02:18:12.000 I'm pretty sure I saved it. 0.97

02:18:14.000 Where they were talking about the end of the world.

02:18:16.000 Yeah.

02:18:18.000 I think I saved it.

02:18:19.000 It's just one of those things.

02:18:20.000 It's like human beings always have that feeling that it's all falling apart.

02:18:24.000 They always have that feeling that at a certain point in time, all of our luck's going to run out.

02:18:29.000 And it has.

02:18:30.000 That's the other thing.

02:18:31.000 That's the other thing.

02:18:32.000 It is a great Eddie Pepperton joke where he goes, you know, every generation thinks theirs is the one where the world ends.

02:18:39.000 He goes, but we are right.

02:18:42.000 Here it is.

02:18:43.000 Assyrian clay tablet, dating to around 2800 BC, bears the inscription, our earth is degenerative in these later days. 0.99

02:18:52.000 There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end.

02:18:56.000 Bribery and corruption are common.

02:18:59.000 Children no longer obey their parents.

02:19:01.000 Every man wants to write a book and the... 0.74

02:19:05.000 What happened?

02:19:08.000 But I had it right there.

02:19:09.000 And the end of the world is evidently approaching.

02:19:13.000 That's amazing.

02:19:15.000 That is amazing.

02:19:15.000 So this is a good way to end this.

02:19:17.000 That's right.

02:19:17.000 To just explain to people.

02:19:18.000 This fear that we have had is just, we are in a constant state of change and a constant battle of truth and propaganda, and it's always been that way.

02:19:28.000 And that this tablet from...

02:19:31.000 4,800 years ago.

02:19:33.000 And it'll always be that way.

02:19:34.000 It's always gonna be that way.

02:19:35.000 It's always gonna be that way.

02:19:36.000 We're monkeys. 0.98

02:19:36.000 We're crazy monkeys. 0.98

02:19:37.000 So find something fun out there to do.

02:19:40.000 Yeah, like come to the mothership if you can.

02:19:41.000 And come to the mothership.

02:19:42.000 And not this weekend.

02:19:44.000 It's sold out.

02:19:45.000 Are you here this weekend?

02:19:46.000 I'm here this weekend. 1.00

02:19:47.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:19:48.000 I'm here this weekend. 1.00

02:19:49.000 Nice.

02:19:50.000 I'm here, baby.

02:19:51.000 I'm in.

02:19:52.000 Well, that's exciting.

02:19:53.000 So, we're going to do Falun Gong.

02:19:56.000 Yeah.

02:19:57.000 Chinese spiritual warfare.

02:19:58.000 If you like Chinese spiritual warfare... 0.95

02:20:01.000 These shows will be for you.

02:20:02.000 The text messages I'm going to be sending you in the future are going to be green.

02:20:06.000 Oh, you're going to...

02:20:07.000 Yeah, I'm trying to switch over.

02:20:09.000 You're going to Android?

02:20:10.000 I'm going to see what happens.

02:20:11.000 I don't like being trapped.

02:20:12.000 I felt like I was trapped.

02:20:13.000 I got anxiety about switching.

02:20:15.000 I don't like it either.

02:20:16.000 I got anxiety about switching.

02:20:18.000 I'm like, how crazy is that?

02:20:19.000 When that green text message comes in, it's going to be so weird, though.

02:20:23.000 But it is weird.

02:20:23.000 I know.

02:20:24.000 It's weird that we're so trapped in this wonderful Apple bubble.

02:20:29.000 They do a great job.

02:20:30.000 Make a great phone.

02:20:31.000 It's great fun.

02:20:32.000 They do a great job.

02:20:32.000 Everything works great.

02:20:33.000 It's great.

02:20:34.000 I love the way you can send videos and airdrop people and FaceTime people.

02:20:38.000 I love it.

02:20:38.000 But I also don't like— But you've got to have the new charger all the time.

02:20:42.000 Well, no, not anymore.

02:20:43.000 Now it's USB-C. Everything's USB-C. Okay, gotcha.

02:20:45.000 Because Europe is actually forcing Apple to comply.

02:20:48.000 All of these—all of these, like— You know, social media sites, or whatever it is, Apple's not social media, but like all these tech companies, they have downsides, and then they have things that are really good.

02:21:00.000 Facebook had things that were really good, but they also sell maids in the Philippines.

02:21:06.000 I was watching, there was an Instagram page that was all dedicated to finding people in prison that you could date when they get out.

02:21:13.000 Thank God!

02:21:16.000 Thank God.

02:21:17.000 I was looking at how many people who are just like Captain Save-A-Ho are just at home looking at these people going, when she gets out.

02:21:26.000 It's a redeemable country.

02:21:28.000 Meet an inmate.

02:21:30.000 Lonely inmates in the U.S. seek pen pals.

02:21:32.000 I just typed in hot single inmates.

02:21:38.000 I've seen a few videos of this going around where they're making a singles video.

02:21:41.000 There's got to be guys and gals that are interested in that.

02:21:44.000 That's their thing.

02:21:45.000 They're going to love a prisoner.

02:21:46.000 They don't have nowhere to stay.

02:21:48.000 They can stay with me.

02:21:49.000 Hot prison pals.

02:21:50.000 Meet a hot prison pal.

02:21:52.000 You'll be glad you did!

02:21:54.000 Well, if you want to meet people that have been in jail, come to one of my shows.

02:21:59.000 And there's a very good chance.

02:22:00.000 This weekend is a high likelihood.

02:22:02.000 You'll meet him.

02:22:03.000 Yeah, high likelihood. 0.99

02:22:05.000 Alright, let's wrap this bitch up. 1.00

02:22:07.000 You're the best. 0.99

02:22:07.000 Thank you. 0.99

02:22:08.000 You're the best.

02:22:08.000 Appreciate you.

02:22:09.000 I'm going to come see you this weekend.

02:22:10.000 I'm excited.

02:22:10.000 I hope so.

02:22:11.000 I want to see your set.

02:22:12.000 Thank you, buddy.

02:22:14.000 Tell everybody...

02:22:14.000 Don't tell me which night.

02:22:15.000 I'll be nervous.

02:22:16.000 Okay, I won't.

02:22:17.000 I'm kidding.

02:22:19.000 It's just Tim J. Dillon.

02:22:21.000 It's Tim Dillon Show.

02:22:22.000 Tim J. Dillon, right?

02:22:23.000 Yeah, on Instagram.

02:22:24.000 Tim J. Dillon on Instagram and X and then Tim Dillon Show if you like podcasts where people yell.

02:22:31.000 It's the best.

02:22:32.000 You're the best ranter on earth.

02:22:34.000 Wow, that's very sweet of you.

02:22:35.000 Your show, you by yourself talking about things is one of the great joys in life.

02:22:40.000 Thank you so much.

02:22:41.000 My pleasure.

02:22:42.000 Thank you, brother.

02:22:42.000 Bye, everybody.

02:22:43.000 Bye, bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 11, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2162 - Tim Dillon

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