The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #217 - Michael Ruppert

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00:03:26.000 Michael Rupert's here. 1.00

00:03:28.000 We're finned to get to the bottom of shit. 0.99

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00:03:44.000 Just to clear things up, there's a lot of people in the MMA world, they're saying, hey man, Nick Diaz no-showed to a match with Braulio Estima.

00:03:53.000 They were supposed to have a jujitsu super fight, and Nick Diaz no-showed.

00:03:57.000 And they said, are you going to take him off the opening of your podcast?

00:04:01.000 And I was like, how dare you?

00:04:04.000 How dare you suggest that I would ever take Nick Diaz off the opening of my podcast?

00:04:09.000 That was one of the greatest moments of my life, sir.

00:04:12.000 I love it.

00:04:13.000 It's one of my favorite parts.

00:04:14.000 And I don't know why he no-showed.

00:04:15.000 I'm sure he had his reasons. 0.97

00:04:17.000 I don't know what the fuck happened behind the scenes. 0.98

00:04:19.000 I don't know who pissed him off. 0.99

00:04:19.000 You can't piss that dude off. 0.99

00:04:21.000 If you want that dude to fight, everything has to be smooth as silk. 0.99

00:04:24.000 The UFC, there's no bullshit.

00:04:26.000 Everything's handled.

00:04:27.000 Everybody's smooth and professional.

00:04:29.000 And it goes off without a hitch.

00:04:30.000 And he has no problems with anybody.

00:04:32.000 But you can't be pissing that dude off and then expecting him to show up.

00:04:35.000 He'll just vanish on you.

00:04:37.000 Was there some controversy?

00:04:39.000 Like, was there a reason that he got pissed off?

00:04:41.000 There was a weight issue, apparently.

00:04:42.000 They were supposed to weigh in at 180 pounds, 185 pounds the day of the match.

00:04:48.000 Like, he had two weigh-ins.

00:04:50.000 And apparently, Braulio Estima didn't know this, and then he weighed in in the morning.

00:04:56.000 He lost the weight.

00:04:57.000 He had to cut weight.

00:04:57.000 He had to cut, like, nine pounds.

00:04:59.000 So he cut the weight, he weighed in in the morning, and then he rehydrated.

00:05:03.000 But the confusion of him not being on weight or not knowing what the weight is or when to weigh in, that's where it gets confusing because it seems like it's the fault of the organizers.

00:05:15.000 It seems like there's a big confusion as to when this was all supposed to go down.

00:05:20.000 And then, of course, with Nick Diaz, like I said, you can't piss him off.

00:05:23.000 If you piss him off, it's just not to show up. 0.99

00:05:25.000 You know, and they fucked up in that regard. 0.98

00:05:28.000 They should have had everything working nice and smooth. 0.99

00:05:30.000 But I don't, you know, you can't excuse it.

00:05:33.000 I would have loved to have seen it, man. 0.96

00:05:35.000 Nick is a bad motherfucker, you know, and for him to have the kind of confidence to get in there with Braulio Estima, Braulio is one of the two or three best jiu-jitsu guys in the world. 0.98

00:05:44.000 I mean, he's amazing. 0.99

00:05:46.000 And as a pure grappler, I mean, he taps out other amazing pure grapplers.

00:05:51.000 Very smart guy.

00:05:53.000 And it sucks for him more than anything.

00:05:56.000 Because he came over here from England for this.

00:06:00.000 This is like a big moment for him as a representative of the best jiu-jitsu that's currently available to have a grappling match against what is a representative of the best martial artist, mixed martial artist we have available.

00:06:13.000 I mean, Nick Diaz is in the elite of the elite.

00:06:15.000 You know, he's right up there with the top guys in the world as far as MMA is concerned, as is Braulio in jiu-jitsu.

00:06:21.000 And so that would be so fascinating to see them go at it.

00:06:24.000 And it sucks that it didn't work out.

00:06:25.000 I don't know why it didn't work out.

00:06:28.000 It seems like all these guys have weight issues.

00:06:30.000 Like, that's a huge problem.

00:06:31.000 Why don't they just have, like, four girls on staff and they just have to, like, focus on weight issues? 1.00

00:06:36.000 They seem like they would be pros at that. 0.99

00:06:38.000 Well, you've got to leave that shit up to a fighter. 1.00

00:06:41.000 This is a different sort of situation because there was a lot of confusion, apparently, as to when they were supposed to weigh in. 0.99

00:06:47.000 Nick Diaz weighed in one day and Brawley weighed in the morning or the next day.

00:06:51.000 There's obvious confusion.

00:06:52.000 I don't know exactly what happened. 0.98

00:06:55.000 You would have to sit both guys down and sort of piece the argument out, but it sucks.

00:06:59.000 I was just trying to get Nick Diaz to have some girls on staff. 0.85

00:07:02.000 I was just trying to help the guy out.

00:07:03.000 LAUGHTER Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Rupert's here, and he's going to get down to the bottom of things.

00:07:10.000 I am.

00:07:10.000 Michael Rupert's been...

00:07:11.000 I have.

00:07:12.000 I've heard that Fox magic is particularly strong this type of month.

00:07:17.000 Fox magic's been working.

00:07:19.000 This time of the month. 1.00

00:07:21.000 Fox magic, it's working.

00:07:23.000 Fox magic's been magicking all over the place lately.

00:07:26.000 Yeah.

00:07:27.000 But as far as what's going on, that's what I came down here to find out.

00:07:30.000 I had to talk to you to figure it out.

00:07:31.000 I don't know if I have any answers for you, sir.

00:07:34.000 I have a feeling anything that would be coming out of my mouth is pure speculation.

00:07:38.000 Good.

00:07:39.000 From someone who's completely unqualified.

00:07:43.000 Well, let's speculate all over the place. 1.00

00:07:45.000 Just a ton of shit's going on. 0.99

00:07:48.000 And there have been some major changes. 0.99

00:07:50.000 And as far as my life goes, things are changing for the good all over the place.

00:07:56.000 I've left CollapseNet.

00:07:57.000 Now, explain for the folks who are uninitiated, what is CollapseNet?

00:08:02.000 CollapseNetwork.

00:08:04.000 CollapseNet.com, not Collapse.net.

00:08:07.000 It's a company we started two years ago after the movie The Dock Collapse came out.

00:08:14.000 And its purpose was to help people to prepare for the collapse of human industrial civilization, which is well underway right now.

00:08:24.000 And over the two years, we've grown to six members in 68 countries, and we got really busy.

00:08:29.000 We specialize in bringing really accurate news reports from all over the world that gives a real picture and telling people what's really going on, but also connecting them through a directory With 1600 hand-picked entries that's free the lighthouse directory for so you the lights are just going on Maybe it's a good idea to grow food or maybe there's going to be more blackouts or maybe this that so and a lot of work has been done Over the course of a couple of decades by a lot of people so we bring all that data

00:08:59.000 there so you don't have to reinvent the wheel and Then we bring a lot of great feature writers and stuff so it got to be Big, and we had some big challenges.

00:09:09.000 We got a massively cyber attack this year.

00:09:11.000 Man, they just, oh, they just laid into us twice this year.

00:09:15.000 And we had some big struggles, but the way it all evolved, and one of my lines is like, evolve or perish, you know, grow up or die.

00:09:24.000 And one of my big spiritual lessons now is about letting go.

00:09:29.000 It's letting go that really gives me more options.

00:09:33.000 Isn't it fun that you figure that out later in life?

00:09:36.000 Everybody does.

00:09:37.000 When you're young, it's like the big problem.

00:09:40.000 I spent 21 years in 12-step and I lived that program.

00:09:45.000 So letting go came to be Something you practice when confronted with, you know.

00:09:51.000 So letting go of collapse, that turned out to be perfect.

00:09:54.000 I gave the ownership back to the, you know, I'm out completely, but now they don't have to pay my salary and they're all on their own and they're just so energized and they're just so on fire. 0.99

00:10:04.000 And now I get to step back a little bit because I'm a tired motherfucker. 0.98

00:10:09.000 You know, I've been at this a long time. 0.83

00:10:12.000 Do you ever put nice stories on?

00:10:14.000 Like happy stories?

00:10:15.000 Sure we do.

00:10:15.000 Like someone found a box of kittens and they were purring.

00:10:18.000 And all of them had beautiful smiles.

00:10:20.000 Everybody went home and they had a great day.

00:10:22.000 And the new episode of Game of Thrones was on and we watched it and it was awesome.

00:10:27.000 And they had fox magic.

00:10:29.000 Here's you.

00:10:30.000 What kind of music is that, Brian?

00:10:31.000 That's a fox magic song.

00:10:32.000 Okay.

00:10:33.000 We have a sound for it now.

00:10:36.000 Do you think it's possible that civilization won't collapse?

00:10:40.000 Is it possible that we're just stumbling and that we'll balance out?

00:10:45.000 Is that possible?

00:10:46.000 Absolutely.

00:10:47.000 That's one of the reasons why I'm going through this big change.

00:10:51.000 Not only did I, in two books and the movie and everything else, kind of predict all of this stuff based upon a model that said that that means civilization is collapsing.

00:11:01.000 So if you see these symptoms, there's a pretty good chance that's what the disease is.

00:11:05.000 But now, just recently, Fukushima is so totally out of control.

00:11:12.000 Reactor number two is so hot that any robots they send to the reactor get fried.

00:11:17.000 And so they can't get into work on this melted core that's lying at the bottom.

00:11:21.000 And then they've said, no machines that can handle that radiation have even been designed yet.

00:11:27.000 Oh, okay, that leaves a reactor two out.

00:11:29.000 Building four with all the rock.

00:11:31.000 I think it's amazing that someone made nuclear reactors in the first place.

00:11:36.000 I think it's amazing.

00:11:37.000 You know, I did a joke about it in my act, but...

00:11:41.000 It really is fascinating that you can build something like that that you can't shut off. 0.97

00:11:47.000 That someone allowed them to build something like that where in some unmeasurable event where the power gets shut off and can't get back on in time, it's fucked forever. 0.84

00:11:57.000 There are 450 more reactors around. 0.95

00:12:00.000 San Onofre just had a major breakdown.

00:12:03.000 Where's that?

00:12:05.000 That's in San Clemente on the way to San Diego.

00:12:08.000 Really?

00:12:08.000 They had a major something?

00:12:10.000 What did they have?

00:12:10.000 It's down all season.

00:12:11.000 So you guys in Los Angeles are going to be having some humongous blackouts this summer.

00:12:17.000 Really?

00:12:17.000 And brownouts.

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 I'm surprised.

00:12:19.000 See, we had that on CollapseNet, but they hide it from you in the mainstream news here.

00:12:23.000 That's why CollapseNet is so good at what we do.

00:12:26.000 Whoa.

00:12:26.000 So what's wrong with the reactor?

00:12:29.000 That's that one that you see when you drive down to San Diego?

00:12:32.000 Reactor number two at San Onofre, right by Camp Pendleton.

00:12:35.000 It's a weird feeling to drive by and see a nuclear reactor.

00:12:38.000 Reactor two, there was problems with the cooling pipes, and then I think they were checking another reactor, and gee, the x-rays showed some faulty piping, but now, so the reactor is offline indefinitely. 1.00

00:12:49.000 It is such a stupid fucking idea. 1.00

00:12:53.000 The idea that you can make something you can never shut off, that you would do that, that's so arrogant. 1.00

00:13:01.000 It's so incredibly arrogant because if it fucks up and people are like, well, most of the time it's clean and safe.

00:13:08.000 What are you banking on? 0.98

00:13:11.000 If you look at the permanence of any fuck up, what a massive amount of time it takes before that area is not deadly to go near. 0.96

00:13:19.000 If you look at the fuck up, we're talking about thousands of years. 0.99

00:13:23.000 Japan is dead. 0.99

00:13:24.000 Japan is mortally wounded. 0.76

00:13:26.000 And I've been saying so, and it's clear.

00:13:29.000 Japan's economy is imploding.

00:13:32.000 They are now a net importer.

00:13:34.000 Their debt is like 280% of GDP. How are they getting their power now?

00:13:41.000 Very good question.

00:13:44.000 Japan has replaced Was that a Japanese impression, by the way?

00:13:50.000 No, I can do a better one if you want.

00:13:51.000 Oh, don't do it.

00:13:53.000 Don't do that.

00:13:54.000 No, no, no.

00:13:55.000 So Japan, what happened?

00:13:59.000 They're running emergency diesel widely, which is, diesel is a whole separate issue worldwide.

00:14:08.000 But they're running diesel.

00:14:09.000 They're burning now fuel oil and coal oil, which, excuse me, two grades of oil.

00:14:16.000 And they're importing liquefied natural gas.

00:14:19.000 Now that's where you build this $450 million floating gigantic bomb of liquefied natural gas.

00:14:27.000 And you float it across.

00:14:29.000 And, you know, one of those things is almost the size of an atom bomb.

00:14:33.000 If it goes off.

00:14:35.000 So this is energy desperation.

00:14:37.000 And when you talk about diesel, you know, don't buy diesel now.

00:14:43.000 And here's why.

00:14:43.000 Diesel shortage all over the world.

00:14:45.000 In India, they got 30,000 generators to handle blackouts at the Taj Mahal.

00:14:53.000 And the city that's around there.

00:14:54.000 We ran that story twice on CollapseNet.

00:14:57.000 And there's so many blackouts in India and Pakistan.

00:14:59.000 They're all burning diesel and they're short of coal.

00:15:02.000 I mean, it's happening all around the world right now, but diesel is in really short supply.

00:15:06.000 What are they going to do with all these nuclear power plants?

00:15:08.000 They can't shut them down, right?

00:15:10.000 There's no way.

00:15:11.000 You can't shut it off.

00:15:14.000 Well, if you combine that, let me just take you a little bit further ahead to where the point of all this is going.

00:15:20.000 Okay.

00:15:21.000 Because from four different directions, they ain't going to shut the nuclear power plants off.

00:15:26.000 They can't control what they got.

00:15:29.000 Because electricity is industrial civilization.

00:15:32.000 You don't have industrial civilization without it.

00:15:34.000 It just seems so ridiculous to put something like that in an area where it's close to humans. 0.86

00:15:42.000 The idea that you can completely contain that insane amount of energy, it's so arrogant. 0.92

00:15:48.000 Okay.

00:15:49.000 That's one prong of a fork.

00:15:52.000 Fukushima.

00:15:53.000 Here's the second prong.

00:15:54.000 AIDS? No.

00:15:56.000 What happened, AIDS? AIDS just cut it out.

00:15:58.000 AIDS came out of the gate like Tyson. 1.00

00:16:00.000 AIDS was killing people left and right, but now you hardly hear about AIDS anymore.

00:16:04.000 It's the best diet in Hollywood right now.

00:16:07.000 It also generates a lot of medical money in the medical business.

00:16:12.000 Do you ever read that Peter Duesberg stuff?

00:16:14.000 A long time.

00:16:15.000 Do you know who he is?

00:16:16.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 He's the biologist from the University of California, Berkeley, and his claim is something along the lines of, That HIV is like a weak virus.

00:16:25.000 I may be paraphrasing here.

00:16:26.000 And that when you're seeing it in people, most likely it's because they have a weakened immune system.

00:16:32.000 A strong, healthy immune system fights off HIV fairly easily.

00:16:36.000 That it's not the culprit of AIDS, but rather a symptom of a depleted immune system that's from a variety of different things.

00:16:42.000 And, you know, it's a crazy argument, because if it's true, it's like, how could only this guy be figuring that out?

00:16:49.000 This one biologist and all these other guys, they haven't noticed that?

00:16:52.000 Is it that tricky?

00:16:53.000 I don't trust any of the science behind modern medicine.

00:16:56.000 But is it possible?

00:16:58.000 That's not possible, though, right?

00:16:59.000 I mean, it's not possible that AIDS is a hoax.

00:17:02.000 That's not possible.

00:17:04.000 It is definitely possible that it was man-made.

00:17:07.000 Right, but it's a real disease, right?

00:17:09.000 It is definitely possible that it was intentionally released.

00:17:12.000 You really, you feel like that?

00:17:14.000 Yeah, I've seen, this goes way, way back to like the 90s when I saw these, but these were WHO documents showing the first outbreak of AIDS, and superimposed were WHO vaccination programs, and it was like a perfect match.

00:17:29.000 Wow.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, I don't...

00:17:32.000 Obviously, I'm no biologist, but I don't see how one guy could be out there saying something like that and all of his peers disagree.

00:17:41.000 I mean, is that how it works?

00:17:42.000 I mean, obviously, people think that HIV causes AIDS, but in this guy's mind, he's like, these people were all doing...

00:17:49.000 I think it was drug abuse and partying, and that's what he was attributing to their depleted states.

00:17:58.000 They were doing like crystal meth and poppers and amyl nitrate and stuff and that apparently is immune system crushing. 0.56

00:18:05.000 This amyl nitrate is something that gay guys like to do. 1.00

00:18:06.000 That was big in the 70s.

00:18:08.000 I mean, when I was a cop, I ran into amyl on the street. 1.00

00:18:11.000 What would they do?

00:18:12.000 Just pop it and they smell it or something like that?

00:18:16.000 Sam Kennison had a bit about it.

00:18:17.000 This is the story of the funniest dead body I have ever seen in my life.

00:18:21.000 You want to hear the story of the funniest dead body I've ever seen in my life?

00:18:24.000 Yes.

00:18:25.000 Alright.

00:18:26.000 I swear this is true.

00:18:27.000 I was working Wilshire Division and I was a P3. I had two stripes.

00:18:32.000 And every Christmas, cops from one division will go cover for another division when it has its Christmas party.

00:18:37.000 So we were covering for Hollywood Division's Christmas party.

00:18:40.000 So I'm driving up around in Hollywood and we get a call, 6A42, meet the RA, dead body, such and such address, maybe on Cherokee or something.

00:18:52.000 So, the RA is a rescue ambulance.

00:18:54.000 So we pull up, and it's a three-story, standard California, really bare-bones, interior courtyard, open balconies.

00:19:04.000 And it's up on the third floor.

00:19:06.000 And so me and my partner, we go walking down.

00:19:08.000 And I notice that the paramedics are just outside laughing their asses off.

00:19:13.000 They're down on their knees.

00:19:15.000 They're laughing so hard.

00:19:17.000 Okay.

00:19:17.000 And I'm going...

00:19:20.000 Okay, guys, this is the dead body call, right?

00:19:22.000 And I go, yeah.

00:19:23.000 And I go, what?

00:19:25.000 And they point.

00:19:25.000 And so I go in, and there's this dead guy on the floor.

00:19:29.000 And he was, I would say, young, 20-ish, light-skinned African-American guy in a Fredericks of Hollywood negligee.

00:19:41.000 Holla! 1.00

00:19:42.000 And he was laying on the floor and kind of spread eagle and I looked and there is a broomstick protruding from you know where.

00:19:54.000 But there's only about a foot of it protruding from you know where.

00:20:01.000 And so the table had been pushed up against it.

00:20:05.000 It was easy to figure it. 0.66

00:20:07.000 I guess this was before a man could buy a sex toy or something. 0.82

00:20:11.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:20:12.000 But he had been up masturbating on the table with the broom and the purpose of the yamble was to strike it right as you come. 0.91

00:20:20.000 Right. 0.93

00:20:20.000 But what it does is it gives you an involuntary back spasm. 0.93

00:20:24.000 Oh no.

00:20:26.000 Oh my god.

00:20:27.000 That's my amyl nitrate story. 1.00

00:20:29.000 And the broomstick went up his ass and killed him. 1.00

00:20:34.000 He looked satisfied. 1.00

00:20:36.000 What a way to go, man.

00:20:38.000 Yeah, there's been a bunch of dudes that have gone asphyxiation style, right?

00:20:43.000 That's like the NXS guy, David Carradine. 0.99

00:20:49.000 That's actually pussy shit because a real guy would do it the other way with the broom coming at you from the bristle part side. 1.00

00:20:55.000 That's the real way to do it. 1.00

00:20:57.000 Wow, like a man.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, like a man. 1.00

00:20:58.000 Like men in this West Hollywood shit. 1.00

00:21:03.000 I'm talking Burbank. 1.00

00:21:04.000 That's how gay Samoans handle it. 0.99

00:21:07.000 Rite of passage. 0.98

00:21:08.000 You gotta use a broom the other way. 0.99

00:21:11.000 Humor was good.

00:21:13.000 Fudge magic. 1.00

00:21:14.000 Yeah, that's a dumb way to die. 1.00

00:21:16.000 One of the things I heard is the big conspiracy would be that if you wanted to shame a person, you would kill them and make it look like they died masturbating like an idiot. 1.00

00:21:29.000 I mean, that's like in a couple of NWA songs. 1.00

00:21:30.000 Yeah, I'm just leaving a bunch of gay porns around. 1.00

00:21:34.000 That would be the ultimate joke if you found your buddy dead. 1.00

00:21:37.000 You're like, alright, he's dead.

00:21:38.000 So listen, there's nothing I can do about that. 1.00

00:21:41.000 But what I can do is put his dick in his hand and put a bunch of gay porns all around him and then take pictures of him and then put it online. 1.00

00:21:49.000 That's cold. 1.00

00:21:50.000 I got you the last one, bitch. 1.00

00:21:52.000 I got the last one. 1.00

00:21:54.000 Come on, that would be hilarious. 1.00

00:21:56.000 Like with lipstick on and shit? 0.98

00:21:58.000 Because if you knew that guy and you loved him, it's like the one last joke you can get out of him. 1.00

00:22:04.000 That's so fucked up. 1.00

00:22:05.000 It's so fucked up. 1.00

00:22:06.000 It's so fucked up, but it would be hilarious. 1.00

00:22:09.000 That's cold. 1.00

00:22:09.000 You got to have a good sense of humor. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Come on, man.

00:22:11.000 That's hilarious.

00:22:13.000 All right.

00:22:14.000 I remember that.

00:22:15.000 You don't think that you remember that? 1.00

00:22:16.000 Yeah, I remember that too, bitch. 1.00

00:22:21.000 That sucks. 1.00

00:22:23.000 Why do you even release that into the... 1.00

00:22:25.000 There's already photos of you out there with dicks in your hand and your mouth, and that's the golden rule of the internet. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Yeah, but imagine a real-life conspiracy against you. 0.99

00:22:33.000 Neo, it's not real.

00:22:35.000 Michael Rupert went with the sunglasses on.

00:22:36.000 That's when he's going to get deep.

00:22:38.000 Isn't that a weird thing like that that's a cool guy thing to wear your sunglasses?

00:22:43.000 Isn't that a weird thing?

00:22:44.000 I'll tell you one thing.

00:22:45.000 What about that new meme where the sunglasses come down?

00:22:47.000 Deal with it.

00:22:48.000 I love it.

00:22:49.000 What is that?

00:22:49.000 Where did it come from?

00:22:51.000 I love it too, but where did it originate?

00:22:54.000 I don't know.

00:22:54.000 What is that from?

00:22:55.000 I don't know.

00:22:56.000 It's everywhere though.

00:22:57.000 I see it all over the place.

00:22:59.000 Sunglasses drop down.

00:23:00.000 Deal with it.

00:23:00.000 It's beautiful.

00:23:02.000 But how did sunglasses get to be cool?

00:23:03.000 What does that mean?

00:23:03.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:23:05.000 I think what that means is whatever you have issue with, why don't you just fucking deal with it and leave me alone? 0.98

00:23:12.000 Okay. 0.99

00:23:13.000 You know?

00:23:13.000 Deal with it.

00:23:14.000 Get out of my face?

00:23:15.000 Well, he's a cool guy.

00:23:16.000 He's got his sunglasses on.

00:23:17.000 Get out of my face. 0.99

00:23:18.000 He's just super cool.

00:23:19.000 Yeah.

00:23:19.000 But how does that make you cool?

00:23:21.000 How did sunglasses become something that makes you cool?

00:23:24.000 Because you look different.

00:23:26.000 Your eyes are...

00:23:26.000 You look like...

00:23:27.000 Now you look like a fly. 0.97

00:23:28.000 You look like a bug. 0.81

00:23:32.000 Well, you do right there. 0.92

00:23:34.000 Those are actually pretty dope.

00:23:35.000 These record HDs?

00:23:36.000 No, these record HDs.

00:23:37.000 But those are Oakleys, right?

00:23:38.000 No.

00:23:39.000 No, they're not?

00:23:39.000 No, they're just video camera glasses.

00:23:42.000 That is amazing.

00:23:43.000 That's HD. What a world we live in.

00:23:47.000 How long before you get a chip in your eyeball that just does that and you don't have to have...

00:23:50.000 Seven days?

00:23:51.000 Well, there's probably going to be... 1.00

00:23:53.000 We're going to be inserting shit into our bodies eventually. 0.99

00:23:55.000 They're going to give you something that just works way better. 1.00

00:23:57.000 Like this...

00:23:58.000 All you need is this one little microprocessor in your body and you will never have a disease again.

00:24:03.000 If just bing, you have like this microprocessor that regulates your body, they put it right in your pituitary gland, and it regulates your body like a little micromessenger. 0.98

00:24:12.000 And then that shit's gonna start getting viruses. 0.83

00:24:14.000 But every ten years they have to give you brain surgery and open it up to change the battery. 0.99

00:24:17.000 What do you think?

00:24:18.000 Yeah.

00:24:19.000 Yeah, but imagine if that computer...

00:24:21.000 Oh, help. 0.99

00:24:21.000 Hey, Joe, imagine if that computer inside you fixes all the disease and all the shit, and then that computer gets a virus. 0.99

00:24:28.000 That's what I'm talking about. 0.97

00:24:29.000 That computer gets a virus, and then so you have to start making medicine to help that computer, so you put robots inside that computer. 0.97

00:24:34.000 Or it gets a virus that turns you gay. 0.98

00:24:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:24:37.000 Imagine that? 0.99

00:24:37.000 They had a virus and all of a sudden you just could not stop your gay urges. 0.99

00:24:41.000 That would probably be the first thing virus, right? 0.99

00:24:43.000 The gay virus? 1.00

00:24:43.000 What if John Travolta had that and all this time people are just being mean to him and they don't know that he has a disease? 1.00

00:24:49.000 He has a genetically designed disease from the Russians maybe. 1.00

00:24:57.000 You know, if you wanted to do that, make someone super aggressively gay. 0.98

00:25:01.000 The government has worked on this, right? 0.91

00:25:03.000 This is not a joke.

00:25:03.000 Michael Rupert would back me up.

00:25:05.000 Remember, during Iraq, they were trying to figure out how to make a gay bomb. 1.00

00:25:09.000 This is not a joke. 1.00

00:25:10.000 I can pretty much guarantee that with all of the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that the black ops community has had to work with in the secret budget all these years, they have tried every stupid fucking thing in the world you could think of. 0.98

00:25:26.000 This idea was that they were going to be able to spray something down, like something blows up over these guys. 1.00

00:25:33.000 It sprays all over them and it makes them gay. 1.00

00:25:36.000 I mean, they were really looking into the possibility of that. 0.98

00:25:38.000 They thought it would demoralize them.

00:25:40.000 Did they ever hear about the Greeks and the Romans? 0.99

00:25:43.000 Some of the greatest fucking soldiers of all time. 0.99

00:25:45.000 They were boning each other constantly. 0.99

00:25:47.000 The Samurais boned each other too.

00:25:49.000 Dudes boned dudes back then, and they were cutting heads off every day. 1.00

00:25:52.000 That's a wild time.

00:25:54.000 You can't think that making these people guy is going to make them better fighters.

00:26:00.000 They're going to fight for their boyfriend now. 1.00

00:26:02.000 Fuck you up, man. 1.00

00:26:03.000 That's what the system does with pretty much everything. 1.00

00:26:05.000 It takes something, and it bends it.

00:26:08.000 It twists it so that you accept a way to look at it that is a basic fundamental lie anyway. 0.99

00:26:14.000 You know, I don't think gay or non-gay has shit to do with how good a warrior you are. 0.99

00:26:18.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:26:19.000 You know. 1.00

00:26:19.000 Yeah, there's a lot of gay dudes who can beat the fuck out of you. 1.00

00:26:22.000 No doubt about it. 1.00

00:26:22.000 I got my ass kicked once by a dyke as a cop. 1.00

00:26:25.000 What? 1.00

00:26:25.000 I did. 1.00

00:26:26.000 Yeah.

00:26:27.000 Christ, she was 6'2", and she could bench like 260 or something. 1.00

00:26:30.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:31.000 Did you underestimate her?

00:26:32.000 Did she charge you?

00:26:33.000 Like, what happened?

00:26:34.000 We just called.

00:26:35.000 It was a 415 fight at a bar.

00:26:37.000 What does 415 mean?

00:26:39.000 That's a police call for disturbance, you know.

00:26:41.000 Is 420 really pot?

00:26:43.000 No.

00:26:43.000 That had nothing to do with police.

00:26:46.000 No?

00:26:46.000 What is that?

00:26:47.000 That's a colloquialism.

00:26:49.000 It's a native, you know, but as far as LAPD, no, I never heard of 420. How did 420 become pot?

00:26:56.000 Anybody?

00:26:57.000 There's probably a good history behind that.

00:26:59.000 It might be a code in some county in Northern California.

00:27:02.000 Okay, so I'm sorry.

00:27:03.000 So 415 comes out.

00:27:04.000 You go to visit. 0.59

00:27:06.000 It's a lesbian bar. 1.00

00:27:08.000 It's a giant dike. 1.00

00:27:08.000 We go in, and she was fighting somebody else, and I go to step in, and she's Blah! 1.00

00:27:16.000 And she went flying back across the room. 0.99

00:27:19.000 Man, you got to be really careful because big women can knock you the fuck out. 1.00

00:27:24.000 That's for real. 0.99

00:27:25.000 There's some big women out there that can knock you the fuck out. 1.00

00:27:28.000 I know a chick that's only like 130 plus pounds, maybe like 140. My friend Tommy Jr.'s girlfriend, Katie. 1.00

00:27:33.000 And she can punch a fucking hole in your face, man. 1.00

00:27:36.000 This chick knows how to punch. 1.00

00:27:37.000 And she's a strong girl. 1.00

00:27:39.000 There's girls out there that can fuck you up. 1.00

00:27:41.000 You got to be careful. 1.00

00:27:42.000 Especially if they sucker punch you.

00:27:44.000 Oh, that's terrible. 1.00

00:27:45.000 There's a great video, though, of some fucking asshole who's yelling and screaming at this woman, and she grabs him by the collars and headbutts him and knocks him unconscious. 1.00

00:27:53.000 It was like a security camera in front of a bar. 1.00

00:27:56.000 The guy was just being a drunk douchebag, and the girl was badass, man. 1.00

00:28:00.000 She was like a fucking character in a movie. 1.00

00:28:02.000 I mean, she wasn't a big girl, but she grabs him by the collar and just fucking headbutts him right in the chin, and the dude goes out. 1.00

00:28:08.000 It was hilarious. 0.94

00:28:10.000 Yeah, it's a beautiful video.

00:28:11.000 Have you ever seen it, Brian?

00:28:12.000 Pull it up because there's not even any audio.

00:28:16.000 It's probably Girl Headbutts Guy K.O. Yeah, maybe.

00:28:22.000 I don't know why I'm asking you to find it.

00:28:24.000 It's probably a billion of those, right?

00:28:25.000 How many videos online are there about girls headbutting a guy and knocking him out? 1.00

00:28:31.000 I can find it. 0.97

00:28:34.000 Well, you know I am the only guy in the history of the Los Angeles Police Department to have been bitten in the left testicle in the line of duty. 0.95

00:28:42.000 Really? 0.93

00:28:42.000 Oh, Jesus. 0.93

00:28:43.000 The only guy ever?

00:28:44.000 Was it as far as I know?

00:28:45.000 Is it because your right had your hand on it and you were massaging it?

00:28:49.000 No.

00:28:50.000 Why did someone bite your ball?

00:28:53.000 We got a call.

00:28:54.000 This wasn't a day when angel dust was on the street.

00:28:57.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:28:57.000 PCP. Oh, my God.

00:28:58.000 It's the worst drug I've ever seen in my life.

00:29:01.000 What is the effects for the unwashed masses?

00:29:04.000 Oh, my God.

00:29:05.000 Well...

00:29:07.000 It was designed as an elephant tranquilizer.

00:29:11.000 That ain't the way it works in humans.

00:29:12.000 It's a powerful hallucinogenic, but it gives people a feeling of superhuman strength.

00:29:18.000 And they have it.

00:29:19.000 They display it.

00:29:20.000 You get a real thin sheen of perspiration and you get this glassy eye look just like this.

00:29:26.000 That's how I look all the time.

00:29:27.000 And these guys would, you know, throw five or six cops around. 1.00

00:29:33.000 They would pull fire, stupid strength things. 0.99

00:29:37.000 And quite frequently they had to be shot because there was just, they wouldn't stop. 1.00

00:29:42.000 I have a friend who got his finger bitten off when he was on PCP. So we got a call.

00:29:47.000 A Wilshire sergeant was requesting a backup.

00:29:49.000 It was just south of the station, south of La Brea in Venice there, a few blocks.

00:29:54.000 And we go rolling up.

00:29:55.000 And here's this sergeant.

00:29:56.000 Tim Wright was 6'5".

00:29:57.000 He's just backed into a corner in this apartment.

00:30:00.000 And here's this little bitty black guy, about 5'8", like Sammy Davis Jr. But he's holding like a 35-inch color console television set above his head. 0.84

00:30:09.000 Those things were heavy.

00:30:11.000 I mean, right away you know it was dust.

00:30:15.000 And I was known as the fire sergeant.

00:30:19.000 The sergeant says, Rupert, get him.

00:30:22.000 So like five of us went in there, and it was just like one of the cartoon melee things.

00:30:27.000 Oh, God.

00:30:27.000 We finally got him handcuffed and then flexicuffed around his ankles, you know, the plastic cuffs.

00:30:33.000 Called an ambulance, put him on the gurney, two canvas straps on the gurney, one over torso and one over thighs or knees.

00:30:41.000 So we figure we got him.

00:30:43.000 We take him out to the ambulance.

00:30:45.000 Now, I stand up, but when you're lifting the gurney to raise it into the ambulance, you pull it up to...

00:30:49.000 Oh no!

00:30:51.000 Oh no!

00:30:53.000 So he broke the canvas strap over his legs.

00:30:59.000 Oh my god.

00:31:00.000 And everybody went back to his legs and they went, wow!

00:31:03.000 He went like that. 0.94

00:31:05.000 Oh my god, he bit your ball sack. 1.00

00:31:08.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:31:10.000 What is the recovery on something like that? 0.99

00:31:13.000 It hurt a lot.

00:31:14.000 Nothing was damaged, but the fear.

00:31:18.000 It must have been horrific.

00:31:20.000 Just looking down for your first time.

00:31:22.000 It must have been horrific.

00:31:27.000 I wound up having the nickname of Inspector Cluzo. 0.97

00:31:33.000 I got kneading a dick once in jiu-jitsu, and I didn't know how bad it was. 0.96

00:31:38.000 This was before I used to wear a cup. 0.99

00:31:39.000 Now I wear a cup.

00:31:40.000 Smart man.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, and I didn't realize how bad it was until after I was done training. 0.97

00:31:45.000 It fucking hurt like hell, but I... I figured it's just me being a bitch because I got hit in the dick. 1.00

00:31:50.000 You know, like, oh, my poor dick. 1.00

00:31:52.000 You know, because that's how you think. 1.00

00:31:53.000 Like, it's like it's extra sensitive.

00:31:55.000 It's my baby.

00:31:56.000 Are you wearing a Dixie?

00:31:57.000 I wasn't wearing anything.

00:31:58.000 I was wearing a jockstrap.

00:31:59.000 Oh, I didn't say that.

00:32:00.000 I mean, I was wearing clothes.

00:32:02.000 What kind of wrestling are you doing, boy?

00:32:05.000 And my friend Einstein was passing my guard and he slammed his knee. 1.00

00:32:09.000 He was trying to pass his knee through my legs and he just miscalculated and caught my dick. 1.00

00:32:14.000 And I didn't realize how bad it was until I was taking a leak after training. 0.99

00:32:18.000 And blood was all over my jockstrap.

00:32:21.000 My jockstrap was like filled with blood. 0.99

00:32:23.000 And I was like, oh great, my dick's bleeding. 0.99

00:32:25.000 This is awesome. 1.00

00:32:27.000 So, like a retard, I didn't even go to the doctor. 1.00

00:32:29.000 Instead, what I did was I went to see if I could beat off. 1.00

00:32:32.000 I'm like, well, if I could beat off, my dick has to be good. 0.99

00:32:36.000 It can't be broken if I could beat off. 0.99

00:32:38.000 And I beat off successfully, and it didn't even hurt that much. 0.62

00:32:41.000 And when I came, it was like blood and cum together, like I had a chicken, like a little chicken egg.

00:32:47.000 So I said, all right, well, let's see if this heals up. 0.72

00:32:49.000 If it feels even a little bit funny tomorrow, I'm going to the doctor.

00:32:52.000 So I peed blood for like two or three more days, but I felt great.

00:32:57.000 I was just checking for any inflammation or feeling of irritation.

00:33:02.000 I think, you know, you just heal up.

00:33:04.000 It's like, would I go to the doctor if I did that with my nose?

00:33:08.000 And the answer was no.

00:33:10.000 Because I've done it with my nose a hundred times.

00:33:12.000 I would have drank a lot of orange juice and tried to make orange pee.

00:33:15.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:16.000 Try to make lemonade.

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:19.000 It would be like pink lemonade. 1.00

00:33:21.000 No, but seriously, that's something that you probably didn't want to get checked out because you didn't want them to have to put something in your penis hole or something like that. 1.00

00:33:26.000 No, I didn't want to be a pussy. 1.00

00:33:29.000 I mean, if it was my ear, I wouldn't go to the doctor. 1.00

00:33:32.000 If it was my nose, I'm like, why am I going to the doctor if it's my dick? 0.98

00:33:34.000 I wouldn't want to go to the doctor if it's infected. 0.98

00:33:36.000 What are they going to do?

00:33:37.000 How are they going to fix it?

00:33:38.000 What are they going to do?

00:33:38.000 Are they going to put a splint on it?

00:33:40.000 Like Joey Diaz's finger?

00:33:41.000 Take two popsicle sticks and send it back in like a wounded soldier. 1.00

00:33:46.000 I don't know what the fuck they would do. 0.99

00:33:49.000 There was nothing wrong with it. 0.99

00:33:50.000 It was just hurt.

00:33:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:52.000 It just needed to heal up.

00:33:54.000 But if it was hurt, if it was more than that, I would have noticed after a while.

00:33:58.000 I was pretty sensitive.

00:33:59.000 That's a great physical metaphor for what happens emotionally a few times in your life. 0.99

00:34:04.000 When you're kicking the dick, you heal up, hopefully. 0.99

00:34:07.000 Yeah, you heal up, hopefully. 0.99

00:34:09.000 That's a good physical metaphor for that.

00:34:11.000 Yeah, it's very difficult for people to accept the idea that sometimes people don't want to be around them.

00:34:17.000 Some people aren't meant for each other. 0.99

00:34:19.000 Their fucking personalities clash. 1.00

00:34:21.000 Some people have different ideas. 1.00

00:34:23.000 It's very difficult to find someone that you can hang with for any long period of time.

00:34:27.000 Definitely.

00:34:27.000 We just gotta learn to be nicer about the whole process.

00:34:31.000 You know, it's the getting kicked in the dick emotionally. 0.98

00:34:35.000 We've got to figure out how to cut back some of that for you. 0.98

00:34:40.000 You know, I had a party recently at my house, a little kids party, and a couple friends came over, including two friends that are exes.

00:34:48.000 They're ex-boyfriend and girlfriend, married to different people now, but still great friends.

00:34:53.000 And it's so cool to see that, when people can act like that, and can actually really be close friends.

00:34:59.000 Like their kids play together, they go out to dinner together, they go on double dates together.

00:35:04.000 They're genuinely friends. 0.99

00:35:06.000 So it is possible, but goddamn, for the most part, most of them end up like fucking, like those air shows, where they touch wings and just fucking go into the crowd in a ball of fire. 0.99

00:35:19.000 Well, you ever go to an air show, man? 0.99

00:35:20.000 You ever go to an air show?

00:35:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:21.000 I grew up in an Air Force family.

00:35:23.000 Jesus Christ.

00:35:24.000 And I've been to quite a few.

00:35:26.000 Have you ever seen a wreck like that?

00:35:28.000 No.

00:35:28.000 Thank God.

00:35:31.000 What kind of jets did you fly in?

00:35:33.000 I didn't.

00:35:33.000 My father did.

00:35:34.000 You've never been in one?

00:35:35.000 Not in a fighter jet, no.

00:35:37.000 I did a thing for the Blue Angels.

00:35:40.000 They would take celebrities up.

00:35:42.000 Oh, cool.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, we went seven and a half Gs.

00:35:45.000 And they don't wear suits either, man. 1.00

00:35:47.000 You know, when they do their shit, they don't. 0.99

00:35:49.000 Most places they wear some sort of a compression suit that allows you to deal with the pressure. 0.99

00:35:55.000 But they don't wear them.

00:35:56.000 They just do it all with their body.

00:35:59.000 You know, they have to be like really in shape.

00:36:01.000 They're in really good shape.

00:36:01.000 A lot of isymmetrics though.

00:36:03.000 Yeah.

00:36:03.000 All kinds of, man, gymnastics, lifting weights.

00:36:05.000 You have to like really strengthen your body just to deal with the g-force. 0.99

00:36:08.000 It's fucking incredible, man. 0.94

00:36:10.000 The feeling is, it's amazing how much pressure it is. 0.99

00:36:13.000 When you realize that like going fast doesn't just, it doesn't come free.

00:36:19.000 Like, if you want to really go that fast, you have to move your body in a way that's completely unaccustomed to moving through the universe.

00:36:28.000 Like, the amount of pressure that comes from that kind of speed, it's like monumental. 0.99

00:36:32.000 It's hard to even wrap your fucking head around. 0.99

00:36:34.000 I love it. 1.00

00:36:35.000 Dude, seven and a half G's is insane.

00:36:37.000 And it feels like, consciousness literally feels like an elevator door.

00:36:40.000 You can see black on each side.

00:36:42.000 It's a crazy feeling, man.

00:36:45.000 But when they wreck, they wreck hard.

00:36:46.000 Oh, I remember my dad was a radar intercept officer in F-89s and F-90s.

00:36:53.000 Those are two-seat interceptors.

00:36:54.000 He used to fly up over the North Pole waiting for the Russians to attack during the Korean War.

00:36:59.000 That was his mission.

00:37:00.000 Wow.

00:37:00.000 And we saw a few UFOs and some strange things.

00:37:03.000 Jesus!

00:37:04.000 Anyway, so the worst, and it was all Air Force.

00:37:09.000 So it was in the late 70s, early 80s, the Thunderbirds.

00:37:15.000 We're doing a five formation loop, ground loop, and something went off and all five flew straight into the ground simultaneously.

00:37:25.000 Oh my God!

00:37:27.000 And that was like, that was like, you just go...

00:37:30.000 Oh my God.

00:37:32.000 Whoa.

00:37:32.000 Oh my God.

00:37:33.000 Holy shit, that's crazy. 1.00

00:37:35.000 Words fail. 1.00

00:37:36.000 That's crazy.

00:37:37.000 Yeah.

00:37:38.000 What happened? 0.99

00:37:39.000 How the fuck does that happen? 0.98

00:37:40.000 Something. 0.98

00:37:42.000 I'm not gonna say.

00:37:44.000 It wasn't a combination of pilot error and mechanical failure.

00:37:48.000 Because everybody follows the lead.

00:37:51.000 Oh my god.

00:37:51.000 Nobody else is paying any attention to anything except the lead.

00:37:54.000 Oh my god.

00:37:55.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

00:37:56.000 That is so fucking crazy. 0.99

00:37:59.000 That's hard to even think about. 1.00

00:38:00.000 That's one of those things that's hard to wrap your head around. 0.99

00:38:03.000 What that must have been like to be a part of and know that it's happening right before the fucking plane hits the ground. 0.99

00:38:10.000 They might have had a microsecond to know. 1.00

00:38:14.000 The guy that took me on the Blue Angels flight was a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:38:17.000 I wish I could remember his name. 0.99

00:38:18.000 I have it at home.

00:38:19.000 It's on a signed photo.

00:38:21.000 But we went through these canyons, and it was so fast, it was ridiculous.

00:38:28.000 And we're only like a couple hundred feet off the ground.

00:38:32.000 And you realize what those things can do. 1.00

00:38:34.000 And just think about it, if you were on the ground and one of those motherfuckers was looking for you, holy shit! 1.00

00:38:41.000 God damn, that's scary. 1.00

00:38:43.000 One of those fighter jets looking for you while you're on the ground would have to be one of the most frightening things ever. 1.00

00:38:49.000 Well, they fly too fast.

00:38:50.000 I mean, this is where I have some expertise because of the life I've led hanging with some green beanie guys.

00:38:57.000 They can't see anything?

00:38:58.000 They fly too fast?

00:38:59.000 They fly too fast.

00:39:00.000 So you need helicopters.

00:39:01.000 Yeah, well, you would want a helo with a FLIR, forward-looking infrared radar for night.

00:39:07.000 That's a third-gen night vision where you can pick out the heat moving very easily.

00:39:13.000 Could they use, like, a blimp or something, just float it up above the sky and get a big view of the sky? 0.99

00:39:20.000 They're doing all that shit. 0.99

00:39:21.000 Are they really? 1.00

00:39:22.000 They have little microcopters and they got all the money.

00:39:25.000 It's like Jack Nicholson in Batman.

00:39:27.000 Where do they get all the toys, you know?

00:39:30.000 That's what they do.

00:39:31.000 Why do they feel like they have to control things so much?

00:39:34.000 Why is that?

00:39:35.000 Why does there have to be so much resources spent on this aspect of society?

00:39:42.000 It's the infinite growth monetary paradigm, but it's also people who have control, if you will.

00:39:50.000 Some will call them the powers that be.

00:39:52.000 I'm getting to call them the powers that were because they're failing monumentally.

00:39:57.000 But they must maintain control.

00:40:00.000 Otherwise, all of the crimes that have been committed for eons will come starkly clear to a lot of people all at once.

00:40:09.000 That's like the awakening of the hundredth monkey. 0.99

00:40:12.000 Like, holy shit, we human beings really have been farmed like animals. 0.98

00:40:16.000 What is that expression, the awakening of the hundredth monkey? 0.99

00:40:18.000 Because I've heard it more than once.

00:40:19.000 Well, that was in...

00:40:21.000 That was in the dock collapse.

00:40:25.000 After the Second World War, and they were playing with the atom bombs, they wanted to see how long it would take to repopulate an island.

00:40:33.000 So they went back to this island four or five years after, and then they introduced trees and they got things growing.

00:40:40.000 Then they brought in like 10,000 monkeys to see how they would...

00:40:45.000 There was enough for everything, but the coconuts were slightly radioactive on the husks.

00:40:50.000 So the safe way to eat the coconut was to wash it in the stream.

00:40:55.000 And they taught like 10 monkeys to wash the coconut.

00:40:59.000 And then other monkeys look, and then pretty soon there's 15, and then 47, and then 200, or excuse me, 88. But when they reached the 100th monkey, all 10,000 got it all at once.

00:41:14.000 Everybody just went, oh!

00:41:16.000 Yeah.

00:41:17.000 Okay.

00:41:17.000 So then they all started washing the coconuts.

00:41:20.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 And that's a parable about...

00:41:22.000 You didn't tell me this story the last time you were here, did you?

00:41:25.000 No.

00:41:25.000 It was in the movie.

00:41:26.000 That's what it was.

00:41:27.000 Okay.

00:41:29.000 So that's a metaphor that's a parable about a radical shift in consciousness.

00:41:38.000 And right now, a radical shift in human consciousness is the only thing that can possibly save us.

00:41:45.000 And there's a part of me, for all of the stuff that I've done bringing the bad news, which was my mission.

00:41:51.000 That was my duty for like 30 years, was like to warn.

00:41:54.000 And now the Fox Medicine spiritual message says they've had all the warnings they're going to get.

00:42:00.000 But now I'm also very aware that this change of consciousness is happening.

00:42:05.000 And I'm seeing enormously encouraging signs of that.

00:42:08.000 One day we won't have to think about how we suddenly try to get governments to be honest.

00:42:15.000 One day, listen, this government right now, one day is going to be embarrassing.

00:42:20.000 It's going to be embarrassing.

00:42:21.000 They're going to look back.

00:42:23.000 It is.

00:42:23.000 I agree.

00:42:24.000 All of them have been.

00:42:25.000 We're going to look back on this time with shame because the people that are running this country, this very small percentage of the people, they're not going to be able to maintain it.

00:42:34.000 There's too much access to information these days.

00:42:37.000 It's not the same animal as it was when this whole monster was created.

00:42:41.000 If you look, Joe...

00:42:44.000 Anywhere in the world, every government is failing.

00:42:48.000 There is not a government anywhere in the world that's succeeding. 0.99

00:42:52.000 Because the way they're set up is ridiculous. 0.99

00:42:53.000 The whole thing is ridiculous. 0.97

00:42:55.000 And after a while, people just, they can't take the inequity of it. 0.93

00:42:58.000 People snap everywhere they want.

00:43:00.000 Even this one, the best one there is, without a doubt, I think America is the best set up there is.

00:43:05.000 I love it here.

00:43:06.000 It's the greatest country in the world. 0.98

00:43:07.000 But, God damn it could be better. 0.98

00:43:09.000 It could be better by a million fold. 0.98

00:43:11.000 It could easily be better.

00:43:13.000 I don't think America can be fixed.

00:43:15.000 That doesn't mean that I'm un-American.

00:43:17.000 What I mean is I think the United States of America, as it's operating now, is not fixed. 0.99

00:43:22.000 Well, it's set up on a bullshit financial system. 0.98

00:43:25.000 That's a real big part of it. 1.00

00:43:26.000 It's utterly corrupt.

00:43:27.000 I'm Thomas Jefferson here.

00:43:29.000 I'm saying this.

00:43:30.000 Thomas Jefferson said you need a revolution every generation. 1.00

00:43:34.000 Have you ever thought about just moving to Hawaii and saying, Fuck you. 1.00

00:43:39.000 Have you ever thought about doing that? 1.00

00:43:40.000 No, no.

00:43:41.000 I spent four months in Venezuela.

00:43:43.000 That was an unusual story.

00:43:45.000 But no, I'm up in Northern California.

00:43:48.000 That's where I'm staying.

00:43:50.000 Staying?

00:43:50.000 Yeah.

00:43:51.000 Until the asteroid comes. 1.00

00:43:52.000 I'm planting my ass in there. 0.99

00:43:53.000 They're going to have to come by the bulldozer and take me out of there. 0.99

00:43:59.000 You're out there making it happen, dude.

00:44:01.000 Are you sure that this is all going to fall apart, though?

00:44:04.000 It is falling apart.

00:44:05.000 But what is the possibility that something can happen that can pull us out of the fire?

00:44:11.000 Something that's going to keep us from...

00:44:15.000 The only thing that can keep us from slamming into the mountain is for the human race collectively to see it slamming itself into the mountain and decide to do differently.

00:44:26.000 It's got to be a change of consciousness.

00:44:28.000 This is not going to be a message written in a letter put out in a broadcast put out.

00:44:33.000 Everybody's got to get it.

00:44:34.000 I personally think the internet itself is very psychedelic in the fact that it's responsible for a massive expansion of human consciousness.

00:44:43.000 Not from a drug form, but from an information form.

00:44:47.000 The fact that the access to information is so spectacular and the whole viral aspect of it, I think that...

00:44:56.000 That human beings right now, this is a very rare time.

00:45:00.000 We're in a balancing act right now.

00:45:02.000 But I think the information that we're getting from the internet is expanding consciousness as much, almost, as a drug would.

00:45:10.000 You know, as an influx, if you look back on like, you know, 19 between like...

00:45:15.000 1994 and now, what a massive change in our society has come about because of YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and the interconnectedness of society.

00:45:26.000 The massive extent of it is so much different than it was before that.

00:45:30.000 The evolutions via the net are amazing.

00:45:34.000 Amazing.

00:45:35.000 But I think that that's going to influence the way the government works.

00:45:38.000 I think it's going to influence the people that are in positions of power.

00:45:42.000 I think it's slowly going to root out the old. 1.00

00:45:45.000 The old system that's in place was all these fuckers were around before the internet. 0.99

00:45:51.000 All of them. 1.00

00:45:51.000 Except Obama. 1.00

00:45:52.000 The old system.

00:45:53.000 Obama, you know, he should have been just a little bit older.

00:45:55.000 He's a little bit older than me, so he was a grown man while the internet came out.

00:45:58.000 He should have...

00:45:59.000 Maybe it was too late for him, too. 0.61

00:46:01.000 Maybe it's one more generation after this where they realize you can't fucking lie anymore because there's new technology that lets you read thoughts, and then everything has to be done transparently.

00:46:10.000 I don't think it's going to take anywhere near that long. 0.65

00:46:12.000 This old system is going to collapse because it will be satisfied with nothing less.

00:46:16.000 It's seeking its own death.

00:46:17.000 It's doing everything to... 1.00

00:46:19.000 To kill itself.

00:46:20.000 Intellectually, anything running this world right now is being defeated.

00:46:23.000 Do you think that's because the current people are greedy and they're just looking out for themselves and trying to just score short-term and just get out because that's where the money's at, Michael Rupert?

00:46:33.000 I think that they're trying to...

00:46:34.000 That was good, right?

00:46:34.000 That was good.

00:46:35.000 I think that they're trying to do anything they can to hold on to what power and what information they have because they do not want...

00:46:44.000 The power or the information that they have to be shared, and it's a total desperation move, and they're going to fail.

00:46:51.000 If I was a doctor for the world, and I looked at this problem, and I was like, hmm, I see what you got. 0.89

00:46:59.000 This is a bunch of cunts that haven't done mushrooms, and they're running things. 0.92

00:47:02.000 That's what it had. 1.00

00:47:03.000 You have a bunch of old, greedy fuckheads. 1.00

00:47:06.000 That are just unpsychedelically inclined. 1.00

00:47:09.000 They've never had consciousness-expanding experiences.

00:47:12.000 They don't know the beauty and the love that you get from a psychedelic experience with friends where you realize how much of the way you behave and live and interact with people.

00:47:22.000 It's just insecurity. 1.00

00:47:23.000 It's just stupidity. 1.00

00:47:25.000 It's nonsense. 1.00

00:47:26.000 I'm not sure that would cure everything.

00:47:30.000 It would cure it all, baby, or...

00:47:31.000 I'd like to give you 7 billion doses of DMT. Kill them all. 1.00

00:47:36.000 Yeah, I think it would kill the ego. 1.00

00:47:38.000 I mean, that's really what you have to do.

00:47:40.000 There you go. 0.97

00:47:41.000 You have to kill the ego. 0.98

00:47:42.000 That's the dilemma. 0.92

00:47:43.000 That's the issue.

00:47:44.000 And that's why I'm writing a third book now, because...

00:47:47.000 Well, that's why everybody hates a chicken hawk. 0.51

00:47:49.000 You know, the idea of someone who wants to send people into battle that's never been in battle themselves.

00:47:54.000 Well, of course you're so confident.

00:47:55.000 Of course you're so aggressive about this.

00:47:57.000 This is not yours to risk.

00:47:59.000 You know, it's the ego.

00:48:02.000 You don't understand what war is.

00:48:04.000 Maybe if you had been there, you would have a completely different sort of appreciation of it.

00:48:08.000 You wouldn't be so callous and it wouldn't be such an easy option.

00:48:11.000 No, I've come to a darker conclusion than that, Joe.

00:48:14.000 And that is that these people literally look at us as cattle, expendable cattle that have been farmed.

00:48:21.000 This is real Orwell.

00:48:23.000 This is what it really is all about.

00:48:27.000 Human beings are born and bred to be slaves and consumers to generate wealth. 0.59

00:48:31.000 And that's the way it's always been, roughly since we started doing money this way.

00:48:37.000 But who are they? 0.93

00:48:38.000 Is it a they or is it just a series of shit choices that have left us in a situation where people are copying things? 0.98

00:48:47.000 You know, there was a thing we talked about really recently on this show about the Salem witch trials. 0.98

00:48:53.000 So the Salem witch trials, there was a woman who wrote a paper for a history class that sort of solved one of the major puzzles of the Salem witchcraft.

00:49:01.000 And it was that there was an ergot poisoning of food.

00:49:05.000 It was causing people to have LSD type effects and that they thought that this was responsible for the original murders, but then they kept it up as a tradition for years later.

00:49:17.000 Then it became a hysteria.

00:49:19.000 And then even though people weren't even ergot poisoning, it would actually become learned behavior.

00:49:24.000 And I think that in situations like where you have greedy business people and they set up corporations and there's patterns of learned behavior that come about from the way these corporations interact with their consumers and the environment they have their businesses set up in and that this momentum gets carried away to a point where the greed and the bottom line supersedes human nature.

00:49:48.000 It supersedes the idea that you are a group of people.

00:49:51.000 And, you know, in the documentary, the corporation, they went over this, that a corporation tends to act as a sociopath.

00:49:58.000 Well, I think we just have to make everyone aware of the accountability of their actions in that situation and remove that.

00:50:05.000 Remove that as a design.

00:50:06.000 Remove that diffusion of responsibility that you can get by being a part of a big group that does something really fucked up, but you don't feel responsible because you're just one piece.

00:50:16.000 From my spiritual perspective, and let me just add that My DMT journey, my cans just went crazy.

00:50:25.000 What'd you do to my headphones?

00:50:26.000 What happened?

00:50:27.000 What happened?

00:50:27.000 My cans just went...

00:50:28.000 I went into an echo chamber.

00:50:29.000 It's cool.

00:50:30.000 You alright?

00:50:30.000 You hear it now?

00:50:31.000 It's on right now.

00:50:32.000 I don't hear anything.

00:50:33.000 Okay.

00:50:33.000 It's a fox match.

00:50:34.000 You never...

00:50:34.000 Yeah.

00:50:36.000 That's my dog rag.

00:50:41.000 For the folks listening on iTunes, there was a photo of him, Michael, with his dog, and he's got the glasses on to deal with it.

00:50:49.000 His dog has a fox face.

00:50:53.000 That's brilliant.

00:50:53.000 That's very funny.

00:50:54.000 That's awesome.

00:50:55.000 DMT trip on the message.

00:50:56.000 I want a copy of that.

00:50:58.000 What is his name?

00:50:58.000 DMT trip?

00:51:00.000 DMT underscore trip.

00:51:01.000 Thank you, buddy.

00:51:02.000 I don't know if you made it.

00:51:03.000 Whatever.

00:51:03.000 What was I talking about?

00:51:05.000 Fox magic?

00:51:06.000 No.

00:51:08.000 Somehow or another it came up.

00:51:10.000 What were we talking about?

00:51:11.000 Oh, DMT. I approach that very spiritually.

00:51:15.000 I do medicine journeys as part of my spiritual practice and it's very important for me that I always approach medicine with a clear intent And it's all ways to seek and learn something.

00:51:27.000 You better.

00:51:28.000 Yeah.

00:51:28.000 You better respect it.

00:51:29.000 Yeah.

00:51:30.000 You have to respect psychedelic trips. 1.00

00:51:32.000 If you think you're the shit and you can handle it, it'll fucking throw you. 1.00

00:51:35.000 No, no. 1.00

00:51:35.000 There's a lot of people that I've noticed that don't do that. 1.00

00:51:38.000 Well, there's a lot of people that...

00:51:40.000 Well, listen to me, man.

00:51:41.000 If you left hammers around, a lot of people are going to use them to build houses.

00:51:44.000 Some people are going to break car windows with them.

00:51:46.000 Some people are just going to hit trees. 1.00

00:51:47.000 Some people are retarded. 0.99

00:51:48.000 Well, even close friends of ours, it's like they go and go to the UFC. And I'm like... 0.98

00:51:53.000 Man, that's crazy.

00:51:56.000 Do you really want that?

00:51:58.000 You do if you were Joey Diaz.

00:52:00.000 You do.

00:52:00.000 I would say yes.

00:52:01.000 I would say if you didn't do it. 1.00

00:52:03.000 What are you, a pussy? 1.00

00:52:03.000 If you're a real Hunter S. Thompson fan, you're a fan of Hunter S. Thompson and Joey Diaz wants to do mushrooms with you at the UFC, do fucking mushrooms with you. 1.00

00:52:11.000 What are you, crazy? 1.00

00:52:12.000 Of course. 1.00

00:52:13.000 That's not respect.

00:52:14.000 Expecting the spiritual trip to me. 1.00

00:52:16.000 The fuck it is? 1.00

00:52:16.000 What a grand opportunity that is in life. 1.00

00:52:20.000 To do mushrooms at the UFC with Joey Diaz. 0.99

00:52:22.000 God damn it. 0.98

00:52:23.000 That's the best seat in the house. 0.99

00:52:24.000 I thought I had the best seat in the house as a commentator.

00:52:26.000 I don't.

00:52:27.000 The best seat in the house is the dude who gets to eat mushrooms next to Joey Diaz at the UFC. Because you know how funny Joey Diaz would be on mushrooms?

00:52:35.000 He would kill me.

00:52:36.000 It would be a non-stop chuckle fest.

00:52:38.000 Everyone would just be howling laughing and you'd get to watch the UFC at the same time.

00:52:42.000 I might have a panic attack.

00:52:43.000 Sounds like the greatest day on earth.

00:52:44.000 You might have a panic attack.

00:52:46.000 I think that it's just too many people.

00:52:47.000 I like being with nature.

00:52:49.000 If I'm going to go on any kind of spiritual trip, I want nature.

00:52:52.000 I want to be able to escape.

00:52:53.000 I like how you're talking about spiritual trips while you're smoking a cigarette.

00:52:56.000 It is a spiritual trip. 0.99

00:52:57.000 It's a shitty one. 0.99

00:52:59.000 It's a tobacco trip. 0.98

00:53:01.000 It is if you're a native.

00:53:02.000 Yeah, sure.

00:53:03.000 Tobacco holds, there's a strong ritual for tobacco.

00:53:05.000 Well, it also is a part of the ayahuasca ritual for some reason.

00:53:09.000 Like a lot of ayahuascaros, I think that's how they say them, they blow tobacco smoke on people. 1.00

00:53:15.000 It's part of the whole thing.

00:53:17.000 Yeah, I mean, nicotine, or the tobacco in and of itself, and even nicotine has proven to have some really positive health effects.

00:53:23.000 I think there's something about nicotine that actually is good for your heart.

00:53:26.000 It's not nicotine that's really the problem.

00:53:29.000 It's like caffeine.

00:53:30.000 Caffeine's not bad if you have just a little bit. 1.00

00:53:32.000 If you're fucking crazy, you're drinking Red Bulls all day. 0.99

00:53:38.000 Check this. 1.00

00:53:39.000 I'm 61. I smoke.

00:53:41.000 Everybody knows that.

00:53:43.000 I just had a physical.

00:53:46.000 Resting blood pressure was 60. Blood pulse rate was 60. That's incredible.

00:53:51.000 Resting.

00:53:52.000 That's really good.

00:53:53.000 Blood pressure was 120 over 70. Are you in really good shape?

00:53:55.000 Do you do a lot of exercise?

00:53:57.000 That's pretty low.

00:53:58.000 I eat really, really, really good.

00:54:00.000 And then I exercise as much.

00:54:01.000 I'm weed whacking two and a half acres now.

00:54:03.000 So that's work.

00:54:04.000 That is work.

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 I mean, you know, George Foreman, when he was training for fights, used to chop wood.

00:54:09.000 It's a well-known fact.

00:54:11.000 You know, it's like real work.

00:54:13.000 Real work is hard work. 0.99

00:54:15.000 No shit. 0.99

00:54:15.000 That gets you in shape, man. 0.99

00:54:17.000 That's a pretty low resting heart rate, though.

00:54:18.000 Yeah, so, you know, what I'm saying is I'm just real sick of buying into all the propaganda I'm sold about everything. 0.98

00:54:28.000 Because the way the people that run this world operate is they do it 90% truth and 10% bullshit. 0.96

00:54:35.000 And because you're not trained to separate the bullshit, the bullshit winds up steering you. 0.99

00:54:40.000 One of my favorite articles came out during the time that the Patriot Act was administered. 1.00

00:54:47.000 It was on CNN. They were talking about how the CIA has announced that it's going to leak fake news stories in order to send terrorists in the wrong direction.

00:54:59.000 And I remember reading that, and I was like, wow, that's like game over.

00:55:05.000 They just came out and said, we're going to lie to you.

00:55:08.000 That was...

00:55:10.000 That was right at the same time that CNN let it be known that the Department of Defense was permanently stationing military intelligence personnel in the CNN newsroom.

00:55:21.000 I screamed about that at From the Wilderness.

00:55:23.000 That was my newsletter for eight years.

00:55:25.000 We had some great people there. 0.99

00:55:26.000 We were just kicking Bush Cheney in the balls every chance we could get. 0.65

00:55:29.000 Why was it From the Wilderness? 0.98

00:55:31.000 Why did you call it From the Wilderness?

00:55:33.000 Because for my personal story, I had been trying to expose CIA was bringing drugs into the country for like 18 years and nobody had listened to me.

00:55:41.000 Then Gary Webb's stories broke and I confronted the CIA director at Locke High School and the game changed a little bit.

00:55:48.000 So I started FTW like a year and a half after I confronted John Deutsch.

00:55:54.000 And I was a voice crying in the wilderness, but I was the guy from the wilderness that nobody had listened to.

00:56:00.000 And then, you know, and so that came to stand for, over the course of my career, many hundreds of people and organizations who were all voices in the wilderness that nobody was listening to. 0.97

00:56:16.000 And damn, we got it all right, you know. 0.53

00:56:18.000 And there's some just amazing people I've met along the way. 0.98

00:56:22.000 It's an interesting name. 0.99

00:56:24.000 I remember when I first found out about it, I was like, what the fuck is... 0.99

00:56:27.000 What's that? 0.99

00:56:28.000 From the wilderness?

00:56:29.000 I was like, it sounds very Unabomber-esque.

00:56:31.000 You know, like you're out there staring at the disease society out in the distance.

00:56:36.000 Yeah.

00:56:37.000 Yeah, no, this was just, hey, you know, pay attention.

00:56:42.000 We were pretty successful.

00:56:44.000 We got to have 60 members of Congress, and we broke the Pat Tillman.

00:56:47.000 The whole cover-up with Pat Tillman was a seven-part series we did at FTW, and that's one of the good things now for me about Giving CollapseNet over to the employees, I didn't get a chance to do that with FTW because our computers were smashed in the Tillman series.

00:57:02.000 I mean, police falsified reports, leaked to editors who were having sex with children and defrauding them, and they really threw everything, including the kitchen sink at me up in Ashton.

00:57:15.000 Link to editors that what?

00:57:16.000 What was that?

00:57:18.000 My computers were smashed in Part 5 of the Tillman series.

00:57:22.000 That's right, when we were nailing Donald Rumsfeld, and he was eventually forced to resign.

00:57:26.000 He was forced to resign because of the Pat Tillman incident?

00:57:29.000 Yeah.

00:57:29.000 That was what did it?

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 He just resigned real suddenly right when Henry Waxman's Committee on Governmental Affairs was getting ready to call him.

00:57:37.000 What was the issue that he had created? 0.98

00:57:40.000 First of all, if you wanted to have a bad guy in like a Batman movie that was like a bad government guy that was actually evil, would not Donald Rumsfeld be the fucking perfect guy? 0.95

00:57:49.000 Dick Cheney's right up there. 0.97

00:57:51.000 He's right up there too.

00:57:52.000 Both of them.

00:57:53.000 So what exactly took place?

00:57:56.000 Well...

00:57:58.000 We eventually nailed it.

00:57:59.000 The series was being written by Stan Goff, who was my military affairs editor from the wilderness.

00:58:04.000 Stan's a retired master sergeant from U.S. Army Special Forces Delta.

00:58:08.000 Stan taught at West Point.

00:58:09.000 Stan is just one of the most amazing writers and human beings and really cool people I've ever met in my whole life.

00:58:16.000 Brilliant guy.

00:58:17.000 And Pat Tillman's mom, Danny, contacted me trying to get in touch with Stan.

00:58:23.000 And I immediately said we'd publish anything.

00:58:27.000 And I drove down to the Tillman house in South of the Bay and copied overnight 2,200 pages of Army records that she had been given, all redacted.

00:58:43.000 You know, all blacked out in pages and stuff.

00:58:45.000 But they were in files and sections and all this stuff.

00:58:48.000 So I returned the papers and drove back up to my offices and I flew Stan Goff into Ashland, Oregon.

00:58:54.000 Stan did most of the work, but absolutely, because Stan knew it all.

00:58:59.000 So he decoded The documents and figured out who was who and what was what and where was where.

00:59:06.000 I caught some things that helped.

00:59:07.000 But Stan wrote the seven-part series that proved that Pat had been killed by friendly fire at close range.

00:59:21.000 And the Silver Star awarded him.

00:59:23.000 I think that that was probably the most offensive thing.

00:59:27.000 For many in the military was that that Silver Star was fake.

00:59:31.000 That just destroys the value of the Silver Star.

00:59:36.000 And so we broke that story.

00:59:40.000 This is similar to the Jessica Lynch story.

00:59:45.000 They changed that story around too.

00:59:47.000 Apparently any story that gets released, any big story, gets doctored up.

00:59:52.000 And so this one was an unfortunate incident.

00:59:55.000 It wasn't a murder, right?

00:59:56.000 No one's claiming it was a murder?

00:59:58.000 Some people claim it's a murder?

01:00:00.000 I think Danny believes that it's possible that her son was murdered.

01:00:04.000 I think she said so.

01:00:05.000 She said so to me.

01:00:08.000 It could not have been premeditated because it was in a foobar situation.

01:00:14.000 It was not really combat.

01:00:15.000 It was an exaggerated stage play in some respects.

01:00:20.000 There had been some incoming fire, but it was like three, four hundred yards away.

01:00:23.000 A couple of Muj fired a couple rounds and ran away. 1.00

01:00:27.000 And here, a whole lot of Rangers just start opening up on a lot of everything all at once.

01:00:32.000 This is basically the way that played.

01:00:36.000 But Pat Tillman's last words when he stood up before he took a three-round burst from a saw, a squad automatic weapon, right here.

01:00:44.000 I mean, it just took his head off. 0.99

01:00:45.000 Where, I'm Pat fucking Tillman! 0.99

01:00:51.000 And that's not disputed. 0.97

01:00:53.000 That's fully in the record.

01:00:55.000 Oh, who was the guy that pulled the trigger?

01:00:58.000 It was a sergeant in his serial.

01:01:03.000 Was he on edge or was he trying to kill him?

01:01:06.000 I can only speculate here.

01:01:11.000 Pat was a really smart guy and he was honorable. 0.97

01:01:15.000 He had seen that the war was all fucked up, it was all lies, and he was disheartened. 0.96

01:01:22.000 Now here he was, a pro football star, right? 0.95

01:01:26.000 Quits the NFL and a huge move to join the army to defend his country because he thinks that everything that you see in the movies is how it works out and you're supposed to rise up when your country gets attacked.

01:01:37.000 As a patriotic American, he wanted to do his part.

01:01:40.000 Well, let me just continue with that a little bit.

01:01:45.000 And he kept a diary, and so there would naturally be fear that he would come back, rejoin the NFL, and start bad-mouthing the government.

01:01:53.000 But that didn't really factor into it.

01:01:58.000 That could have been controlled in many other ways than that.

01:02:02.000 Pat hung around frequently with special forces, and that's kind of a no-no in theater, because one group does what they do.

01:02:11.000 Anyway, that's just the way it works.

01:02:14.000 And I think he was something of a grandstander, you know, a little bit.

01:02:21.000 And... 0.92

01:02:22.000 So he was making a lot of noise, and he was pissing some people off, and he was complaining about how fucked up things were, and somebody might have put it to him. 0.53

01:02:30.000 Yeah, and I think he became a ranger before he became a soldier, and maybe only rangers would understand that, or SF would understand that, but... 0.60

01:02:43.000 It's a totally Shakespearean tragedy. 0.96

01:02:47.000 I mean, it's just like so fucked up all the way around for everybody. 0.99

01:02:52.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:02:52.000 Did you ever hear the eulogy the brother gave? 0.99

01:02:56.000 Mm-hmm.

01:02:57.000 It's pretty intense, too. 0.99

01:02:59.000 I think it was something to the extent of, you know, Pat's not in heaven, Pat's fucking dead. 0.99

01:03:05.000 Something along those lines. 0.99

01:03:06.000 You know, he's an atheist or something.

01:03:08.000 I'm glad you didn't know him because then he would have, like, lipstick all over him and then he had...

01:03:13.000 Pictures.

01:03:15.000 Like...

01:03:16.000 I don't even want to joke about this.

01:03:18.000 I don't even want to joke about it, unfortunately.

01:03:20.000 But you would joke about it?

01:03:21.000 I almost...

01:03:22.000 I came close to...

01:03:23.000 But you joke about it with me?

01:03:25.000 No, not if your head got blown off. 1.00

01:03:27.000 If your head got blown off, I wouldn't put a big dick like, damn, should have tried sucking a smaller dick. 1.00

01:03:33.000 It blew your head off, bitch. 1.00

01:03:35.000 That would be the last thing I would do for you. 1.00

01:03:39.000 But, you know, Pat Tillman is like an American hero.

01:03:43.000 The whole thing was sad.

01:03:44.000 It was sad that he chose to jump in and it was sad that it wasn't what he thought it was. 0.98

01:03:53.000 The truth is that everything about those wars, the post-9-11 wars, everything about those wars is fucked up. 0.99

01:04:02.000 And when you start off with everything on the floor you're building on, that fucked up. 0.99

01:04:08.000 The war that takes place on top of that field can't be anything but more compoundedly fucked up. 0.98

01:04:14.000 How do you have a just war when you go into it with ulterior motives? 0.99

01:04:20.000 And lies. 0.99

01:04:21.000 Yeah, it's amazing that there's a lot like a fucking army of people in jail right now. 0.99

01:04:25.000 You know, it's amazing. 0.99

01:04:27.000 It's amazing that they can get away with that level of corruption and not be accountable.

01:04:31.000 It's really...

01:04:32.000 But they do in the world of ones and zeros, you know, the Cartesian world, measurable matter.

01:04:38.000 And of course, we know there's such a thing as spirit.

01:04:41.000 There's things other than matter, but they operate as if everything is matter.

01:04:44.000 That's what we gotta do, man.

01:04:46.000 We gotta bring them into the light.

01:04:48.000 That's what we've got to do.

01:04:49.000 That's the solution to all of it.

01:04:51.000 It's like not even fight them.

01:04:53.000 It's like they are us.

01:04:54.000 They're just us in the worst case scenario, in the worst possible position, doing the wrong thing exactly.

01:05:00.000 I think that we are at one of the most epical times in human history.

01:05:05.000 Of course we are.

01:05:06.000 Perhaps all of human history.

01:05:08.000 And I really believe that what I said in the movie is happening.

01:05:12.000 That our species is being forced to choose.

01:05:17.000 Whether to evolve or to perish. 1.00

01:05:20.000 To grow up or fucking die. 0.99

01:05:23.000 Well, it's obvious when you look at what we're doing as far as sucking fish out of the ocean and depleting resources and polluting things. 0.99

01:05:31.000 We're certainly not doing it in a sustainable way right now.

01:05:35.000 I don't think it's impossible.

01:05:37.000 If we kept the population exactly how it is right now, It might even be possible to run the world the way it is and use the resources.

01:05:46.000 It might be possible.

01:05:47.000 But as we move along, if it's not, how are we doing it right now?

01:05:52.000 We are overextended.

01:05:54.000 But we're doing it right now.

01:05:55.000 No, no.

01:05:57.000 Everything is imploding right now.

01:05:59.000 But right now, we're doing fine.

01:06:02.000 Right now, we have electricity.

01:06:03.000 I'm on the internet.

01:06:05.000 We have food.

01:06:06.000 Not everybody.

01:06:07.000 This is the ego bomb because this is where I've had the hardest trouble getting through to people because they'll say, How long do we have?

01:06:17.000 When is it going to happen?

01:06:18.000 Right. 0.98

01:06:18.000 And subconsciously, all they're really saying is, how long before it fucks with me? 0.98

01:06:24.000 Yeah, how long before I'm uncomfortable. 0.96

01:06:25.000 Exactly.

01:06:26.000 I want to read books by candlelight.

01:06:28.000 Like, here we are, but, you know, that's why CollapseNet exists, because we bear witness to the fact that all over Pakistan, cities are having blackouts.

01:06:38.000 I like how you said that, by the way.

01:06:39.000 It's very authentic.

01:06:40.000 Pakistan? 0.75

01:06:41.000 Yes.

01:06:42.000 Blackouts lasting weeks at a time, same in Mindanao.

01:06:46.000 India, major power blackouts.

01:06:51.000 Civilization is collapsing all around the world, and just because people choose not to hold it in their consciousness don't mean it ain't going on.

01:06:59.000 So you recognize it as an inescapable trend that only a shift in consciousness can alter.

01:07:06.000 So if the shift of consciousness occurred, how would that alter?

01:07:10.000 What would be the correct thing to do? 0.77

01:07:12.000 If the human population was brought into the light and everybody sort of figured it out and said, hey, we have to act responsibly and stop being a bunch of greedy cunts, what would we do?

01:07:22.000 I think it would all spring from A fundamental overriding awareness, not a conviction belief, just awareness.

01:07:33.000 You're living it, you know.

01:07:36.000 Of the oneness of everything.

01:07:39.000 Of the connectedness of everything.

01:07:46.000 That's the place where you start.

01:07:49.000 And once you do that, among other things, you overcome the pairs of opposites.

01:07:57.000 Good, bad, rich, poor, fat, thin, whatever.

01:08:01.000 This world of duality.

01:08:04.000 And I think there's some amazing work being done in quantum physics that is totally bearing this out.

01:08:13.000 There's some amazing research out.

01:08:15.000 Amit Goswami is a quantum physicist, and a great book out by David Wilcock, and a lot of stuff that I kind of became aware of along the way.

01:08:27.000 So I think the awareness of that, once it comes or it flowers in the species, and pray God a spirit, it does soon, We will just automatically stop doing all the stuff that we're doing that's turning this planet into a living hell.

01:08:48.000 Come on, the Gulf of Mexico is totally destroyed. 0.90

01:08:51.000 They got shrimp with their guts hanging out in one eye and an eye in their ass and crabs with half a shell. 0.97

01:08:58.000 I mean, we've been running the photos of this on CollapseNet.

01:09:03.000 So, climatologically, there are plumes, one, two kilometers across, 20, 30 of them, of methane venting directly up from tundra in Siberia.

01:09:18.000 I mean, it's like methane is 20 times more powerful a greenhouse gas than CO2. This mess is out of control.

01:09:27.000 It's going to come crashing down.

01:09:29.000 The only thing, because by calculation, I had a guest on my radio show, great guy, a professor from Arizona State.

01:09:39.000 I'm having a brain fart on his name.

01:09:41.000 It'll come up in a minute.

01:09:42.000 Thank you very much.

01:09:45.000 But climatologically, there's an incredible study that says you have to stop all economic activity now or else everything dies irreversibly as a result.

01:09:57.000 Of temperature rise.

01:10:00.000 It's hard science.

01:10:02.000 So, you know, on all these fronts, with all that stuff happening, I just stood backwards and I went, this train wreck cannot be prevented at this level of consciousness.

01:10:13.000 The only thing that can save us now literally is a miracle.

01:10:17.000 Right.

01:10:17.000 A miracle, a revolution of human consciousness.

01:10:21.000 But if that does happen, if there's a revelation, there's a revolution, whatever you would want to call it, if that did happen, what would we do?

01:10:27.000 How would we fix everything?

01:10:29.000 That just seems to me that we have to ship things, okay? 0.89

01:10:33.000 We have to manufacture shit, we have to move it around places because people need stuff. 0.96

01:10:37.000 You know, you got to get food to supermarkets. 0.99

01:10:39.000 You got to keep growing it.

01:10:40.000 You got to keep a good cycle going on.

01:10:42.000 So you got to burn something.

01:10:44.000 You got to use something.

01:10:45.000 You got to run those engines.

01:10:46.000 And then on top of that, you have to have at least public transportation.

01:10:49.000 And then people are going to want to have cars. 0.99

01:10:51.000 Okay, how are you going to get all this shit? 0.99

01:10:53.000 Drives you crazy thinking about that, don't it? 0.99

01:10:55.000 Well, it's amazing that we got so out of hand.

01:10:57.000 We got, as a society, we're like, it's like someone who was just out of college and you gave them an unlimited MasterCard and you don't have to pay for the first year. 0.98

01:11:06.000 And they just fucking went bananas.

01:11:08.000 You know, they went bananas to the point where it's completely unsustainable. 0.99

01:11:11.000 And then you realize you have this debt of the way you're living.

01:11:15.000 It's just so disproportionate to your resources.

01:11:19.000 Here's the ultimate kicker to all of this.

01:11:20.000 There are not enough resources in the world to pay off the debt that has been printed since 2008. All the bailouts are debt.

01:11:30.000 So all the resources in the world, like as far as all the gold, all the diamonds, all the oil...

01:11:35.000 How about iron and copper and food?

01:11:38.000 But energy is the first resource because without energy you can't use anything else.

01:11:44.000 So that's amazing.

01:11:45.000 So how is that possible that we have an economy that's not based on entirely what anything could be worth? 0.99

01:11:51.000 That just shows you how completely full of shit the whole idea of the economy is. 0.99

01:11:56.000 If all the resources of the world and you owe more than that, someone got fucked. 1.00

01:12:02.000 Someone fucked you out of the whole world plus! 0.99

01:12:05.000 Think about that! 1.00

01:12:07.000 Think about how strong the fuckery is in this economy. 0.97

01:12:10.000 That is so bad that literally we owe more than there is value in anything in the world. 0.96

01:12:20.000 To pay off.

01:12:21.000 It costs more to make a penny than a penny's worth.

01:12:23.000 The same thing.

01:12:24.000 I mean, seriously.

01:12:26.000 That pretty much explains everything.

01:12:28.000 It's possible.

01:12:29.000 Here's the catch, too.

01:12:30.000 All of that is founded on a premise of infinite growth.

01:12:35.000 Wow.

01:12:37.000 Infinite growth on a finite planet is not possible.

01:12:39.000 With finite resources.

01:12:41.000 Hmm.

01:12:42.000 Yeah.

01:12:43.000 Have you ever read Black Gold Stranglehold?

01:12:45.000 Do you know the premise behind that?

01:12:47.000 Oh, that was...

01:12:48.000 Who was that?

01:12:49.000 Was that Jerome Cors...

01:12:50.000 No, that was...

01:12:50.000 I don't remember his name.

01:12:51.000 That was a disinfo book.

01:12:52.000 Was it really?

01:12:52.000 I had it on my disinfo show.

01:12:54.000 Really?

01:12:54.000 Yeah.

01:12:55.000 So it was a book that was... 0.96

01:12:57.000 It did sound completely ridiculous... 0.88

01:13:00.000 I was like, well, how do you... 0.96

01:13:01.000 This is the only guy that knows it.

01:13:03.000 The premise was that oil was not a byproduct of fossil fuels. 0.99

01:13:08.000 Oh, abiotic, yeah. 0.90

01:13:09.000 Yeah, that it was a process of the... 1.00

01:13:13.000 It was like literally the blood of the earth. 1.00

01:13:14.000 Earth has an endlessly filled creamy nougat center that will satisfy your every desire for as long as your kinky ass should crave it. 1.00

01:13:21.000 What a dirty... 1.00

01:13:22.000 Of course. 1.00

01:13:22.000 Evil vampire cunts people are. 1.00

01:13:25.000 We just suck the oil out of the earth until it's dead. 1.00

01:13:28.000 That's what we're doing.

01:13:29.000 We're running our entire crazy business on the blood of the earth. 0.97

01:13:33.000 We're like the craziest tick. 0.53

01:13:35.000 And that's exactly what it is, too. 0.79

01:13:36.000 Yeah, it is the blood of the earth.

01:13:37.000 Oil is life.

01:13:37.000 All we're doing is burning ancient sunlight that was stored in light.

01:13:41.000 It's all solar energy in one form or another on this planet.

01:13:44.000 That's so crazy when you really stop and think about it like that.

01:13:46.000 It is.

01:13:47.000 God, it's amazing.

01:13:48.000 It's amazing when you really think about what it is.

01:13:50.000 Why do you think the natives call it Father Sky? 0.99

01:13:53.000 Because they were dumb. 0.99

01:13:54.000 They didn't know about planets. 1.00

01:13:57.000 There's a lot of shit they didn't know. 1.00

01:13:58.000 Oh, yes, they did. 1.00

01:13:58.000 They didn't even have fucking horses, man. 1.00

01:14:00.000 We had to give them horses. 1.00

01:14:02.000 Settle down.

01:14:03.000 Maybe.

01:14:04.000 That might be all fake.

01:14:05.000 Listen, man, those are the people that came across the Bering Strait. 0.92

01:14:08.000 And it was proven recently, actually, when this Mormon dude tried to flex, because he, in the Mormon, Book of Mormon, whatever the fuck that nonsense that Joseph Smith character wrote when he was 14 years old, that everybody followed along with, it was said that they believed that the American Indian was actually the lost tribe of Israel.

01:14:31.000 And that he was going to prove it with a genetic test. 0.93

01:14:35.000 So he ran a DNA sequence on an American Indian.

01:14:39.000 And most of it is actually Asian. 0.98

01:14:43.000 Most American Indians are actually, they came down from the Bering Strait.

01:14:47.000 Siberia.

01:14:49.000 1860s running a DNA test?

01:14:50.000 What?

01:14:50.000 No, no, no.

01:14:51.000 Recently ran a DNA test on American Indians to find out the origin.

01:14:54.000 Because if they were Israelis, he'd be like, see, this is the lost tribe of Israel! 1.00

01:14:59.000 If they were Semitic, I guess they could find that out. 1.00

01:15:02.000 But it was not.

01:15:03.000 It was most likely that they were Asian.

01:15:05.000 Religions are business. 1.00

01:15:06.000 And I really think, overall, Christianity had the best business plan.

01:15:12.000 That's what it boils down to.

01:15:13.000 But what's happening now is people are also beginning to understand that Part of this great awakening is that many of us are returning to wisdom that existed before the word religion even existed.

01:15:28.000 It was the knowledge of the ancients living in direct connection with this planet and everything on it.

01:15:35.000 You can absolutely learn from other people's revelations that are written down and recorded.

01:15:41.000 But the moment that people start attaching gods to them... 1.00

01:15:45.000 You're talking about a bunch of shit. 1.00

01:15:47.000 You don't really know what the fuck you're talking about. 1.00

01:15:48.000 If you're a human being, then you really don't know what you're saying. 1.00

01:15:51.000 You're saying a bunch of nonsense.

01:15:53.000 Either you learned something or you didn't.

01:15:55.000 But when you start...

01:15:57.000 Thinking about things like Mormons or Scientologists or anything where it's like just even a whiff of crazy.

01:16:04.000 It's like, how do you address that?

01:16:06.000 Do you allow it to happen?

01:16:07.000 Because I'll tell you, I've never met nicer folks than Mormons.

01:16:10.000 Some of the nicest people I know are Mormons.

01:16:12.000 They have a great sense of community in the Mormon church.

01:16:15.000 I've actually been to services before because I had friends that were Mormon.

01:16:18.000 I've been to a Mormon funeral before.

01:16:20.000 They're very polite and nice people.

01:16:22.000 And if you wanted to find like a religion where you said, well, here's a religion that looks like it enhances family life a little bit.

01:16:28.000 They do a lot of things together.

01:16:29.000 There's probably a lot of benefits to it when you get past the fact that it's based on some nonsense fairy tale written by a young con man.

01:16:37.000 Mormons are also very, very, very smart in that they have focused...

01:16:41.000 On food storage and food preparation for a long time.

01:16:46.000 And that is the single most critical factor for who's going to make it and who's not.

01:16:51.000 There you go, dude.

01:16:52.000 You have to bring everything back to the end of the world.

01:16:54.000 Doom and gloom.

01:16:55.000 Well, no.

01:16:56.000 We need to take you to Disneyland.

01:16:57.000 We might have a wake-up before that.

01:16:58.000 When was the last time you were at Disneyland, man?

01:16:59.000 Oh, my God.

01:17:02.000 You know it works today. 0.98

01:17:03.000 But you should go to Disneyland before, like, fucking Planet of the Apes-style collapse of civilization happens, and you're out there Mad Maxing it, and you're fucking biodiesel truck, and you pass by the Disneyland when Anaheim is a fucking ghost town, and you have to get in the car because the zombies are coming. 0.95

01:17:18.000 This sounds like a movie. 0.98

01:17:19.000 Yeah, it is a movie, bro.

01:17:19.000 Pretty good movie.

01:17:20.000 Woody Halston would be.

01:17:21.000 It's like, what was that, Zombieland?

01:17:23.000 Zombieland.

01:17:24.000 Deuce.

01:17:25.000 Zombieland Deuce.

01:17:26.000 Go to Disneyland, bring some Fox magic. 0.99

01:17:28.000 Yeah, just fuck up some zombies at Disneyland. 0.78

01:17:30.000 Actually, you know, if there were places to party, I can think of a couple more I'd rather party at. 0.92

01:17:35.000 Disneyland's beautiful.

01:17:36.000 Disneyland.

01:17:36.000 It's fun.

01:17:37.000 It's a great place.

01:17:37.000 Did you end up going the other day?

01:17:39.000 Yeah, that was awesome.

01:17:39.000 Yeah.

01:17:40.000 Yeah, you go during the weekday, man.

01:17:42.000 It's great.

01:17:42.000 Did you use the app?

01:17:43.000 Did you try the app?

01:17:44.000 No, the lines were easy.

01:17:45.000 I go on little kid rides.

01:17:47.000 It's a totally different experience.

01:17:49.000 I'm not waiting for Space Mountain.

01:17:50.000 I'm waiting like 10 minutes to go on the submarine.

01:17:52.000 The submarine.

01:17:53.000 I like the teacups that you spend.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, kids love teacups.

01:17:56.000 Those are fun.

01:17:57.000 Those are fun.

01:17:57.000 Disneyland is fun.

01:17:58.000 When they're your kids, it's really an amazing thing that happens when you have kids is that you get the actual joy of them having joy.

01:18:05.000 It's really strange.

01:18:06.000 I used to see kids having fun and I'd go, aw, that kid looks like he's having fun.

01:18:11.000 That looks awesome.

01:18:11.000 And it would make me feel good.

01:18:12.000 But it doesn't make you feel good like you're a little kid experiencing the happiness.

01:18:17.000 When you have a kid and they're happy, jumping around and laughing and having a good time, you actually experience that feeling.

01:18:24.000 It's like you live through it.

01:18:25.000 It's amazing.

01:18:26.000 It's amazing.

01:18:27.000 You know what I don't like?

01:18:27.000 I don't like when kids have that thing where they, out of nowhere, they just start grabbing on your leg, like holding on to you, and you're like a random stranger kid.

01:18:36.000 You're at the Olive Garden or something like that, and they're just grabbing it.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, it's uncomfortable.

01:18:40.000 You're like, um, get your kid.

01:18:41.000 What do I do with it?

01:18:42.000 Do I start documenting?

01:18:43.000 Like, nothing happened, nothing happened.

01:18:45.000 Does it bite?

01:18:46.000 Yeah.

01:18:46.000 I don't want to pick your kid up and have you weird out, too.

01:18:48.000 Right.

01:18:49.000 Because if some dude just picked up your kid, you'd be like, hey, man, what are you doing with the baby?

01:18:52.000 What's up?

01:18:54.000 See...

01:18:56.000 What a commentary on this world!

01:18:58.000 Well, yeah, absolutely.

01:18:59.000 People would go automatically there.

01:19:00.000 There's so many of us. 0.76

01:19:02.000 There's so many of us that the amazing spectrum of human behavior, there are possibilities you can run into people that are completely crazy.

01:19:10.000 We all have in our day.

01:19:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:13.000 In the world of martial arts and fighters, I've run into some fucking crazy people. 1.00

01:19:18.000 I'm sure your world takes that to the next level times 10. Being a police officer in Los Angeles and all the shit that you've seen. 1.00

01:19:27.000 I mean, you're like douchebag to nice people ratio that you saw in your line of duty. 0.99

01:19:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:19:35.000 It's fucking hard to keep a cheerful profile. 0.97

01:19:39.000 Well, that's one of the... 0.98

01:19:43.000 There's a Jesuit mystic named Anthony DeMello, and he has a great line.

01:19:47.000 He says, there comes a point in your life when your options are to either go stark raving and saying commit suicide or become a mystic.

01:19:54.000 I want to be a mystic.

01:19:56.000 Yeah.

01:19:56.000 Well, you are, man.

01:19:57.000 Really?

01:19:58.000 I think.

01:19:59.000 I wouldn't want to be like the Silver Surfer, dude.

01:20:01.000 Yeah.

01:20:02.000 I want a Silver Surfer reboot. 1.00

01:20:04.000 If you could, yeah, fuck yeah. 0.97

01:20:05.000 I want it to be like digital, like Tron style, like where it's like when he's flying, there's like digital streaks. 0.99

01:20:10.000 I enjoyed the first Silver Surfer.

01:20:12.000 It's a good movie.

01:20:14.000 Yeah.

01:20:14.000 Reboot that.

01:20:15.000 Who owns that?

01:20:16.000 Marvel or the other company?

01:20:17.000 I don't know.

01:20:17.000 Silver Surfer.

01:20:18.000 Wasn't it a part of the Avengers?

01:20:20.000 Or no, not the Avengers, rather.

01:20:22.000 The Fantastic Four?

01:20:23.000 No.

01:20:24.000 Where was the last Silver Surfer?

01:20:27.000 I want to say it was in one of the Fantastic Four movies.

01:20:30.000 I was thinking X-Men.

01:20:31.000 X-Men.

01:20:32.000 Maybe it was that.

01:20:33.000 Yeah, it is X-Men.

01:20:34.000 You sure?

01:20:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:35.000 It's in one of the X-Men movies.

01:20:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:36.000 We've got to find out which one.

01:20:38.000 Fantastic Four was just that brick dude and that stretchy dude.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 Silver Surfer wasn't involved in that?

01:20:44.000 I don't think so.

01:20:45.000 I feel like he was.

01:20:46.000 I think Silver Surfer was straight, wasn't he?

01:20:50.000 I think he's like a god or something.

01:20:51.000 I don't remember the story behind it. 0.99

01:20:53.000 You thought you were going to come on for a serious discussion about the end of the world, didn't you, silly man? 0.98

01:20:57.000 No, that's all right. 0.99

01:20:58.000 It's okay.

01:20:59.000 This is like a download.

01:21:00.000 I'm just checking what's going on in the universe around here.

01:21:03.000 Well, listen, I just think it's possible that...

01:21:09.000 A lot of people, okay, here's a funny thing.

01:21:11.000 When you're worried about the end of the world, you're worried about the collapse of civilization, and in the meanwhile, people see you smoking cigarettes, and they go, if you want to stay healthy and happy, why are you poisoning yourself?

01:21:28.000 Deal with it.

01:21:30.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:21:33.000 That would now be a meme.

01:21:35.000 That would now be a meme that will spread across the internet.

01:21:40.000 That's beautiful.

01:21:41.000 But I mean, I was talking with my friend Duncan about this.

01:21:45.000 We were talking about people who were looking for chemtrails while they're smoking cigarettes. 0.97

01:21:49.000 They're fucking poisoning me from the sky. 1.00

01:21:53.000 You're poisoning yourself, too. 1.00

01:21:56.000 Doesn't matter.

01:21:56.000 You enjoy it.

01:21:57.000 I... I am what I am.

01:22:00.000 At 61 years of age, after all the shit that I've done in my life, and I'm alive and healthy, I've got wounds and scars. 0.97

01:22:07.000 Don't go there. 0.99

01:22:09.000 Just need that cigarette.

01:22:10.000 He's got a Pac-Man shop on the stick.

01:22:12.000 If civilization falls apart, do you have a stockpile of cigarettes, or are you just going to quit?

01:22:17.000 I don't have a huge stockpile.

01:22:19.000 I'll ration.

01:22:19.000 I'll quit if I have to.

01:22:21.000 Would that be the biggest thing that you would miss about civilization?

01:22:24.000 Or would it be the internet?

01:22:26.000 Oh, I would not.

01:22:27.000 I'm tired of the internet, dude.

01:22:29.000 I need a break from it.

01:22:29.000 You're tired of the internet?

01:22:30.000 I need a break from it for a while.

01:22:32.000 I'm getting there.

01:22:32.000 You're tired of the internet, too.

01:22:33.000 Well, both you guys are pussies. 1.00

01:22:34.000 You should go in a room together and make out. 1.00

01:22:37.000 The fuck are you talking about? 1.00

01:22:38.000 I love the internet. 1.00

01:22:39.000 It's the greatest thing that human nature has ever invented.

01:22:42.000 Well, that's where you're clicking right now.

01:22:44.000 But see, I'm starting to click in a different direction.

01:22:47.000 I'm starting to click.

01:22:48.000 I'm moving more to live in my spiritual, my inner life, and building my own lifeboat.

01:22:54.000 You need a night in the town. 0.99

01:22:57.000 You need hookers and tequila. 1.00

01:22:59.000 That's what you need. 0.99

01:22:59.000 You need a limo and an Asian driver who knows how to weave through traffic. 0.99

01:23:05.000 No, I think I'd rather just have a big party at my house where we cook a leg of lamb and all sit around and eat and smoke a little herb, eat organic food, and then...

01:23:14.000 And then Bigfoot makes it to the party.

01:23:16.000 And then anybody who wants to go off and make love, you just do it.

01:23:20.000 Don't you live up in Bigfoot country?

01:23:22.000 There's Bigfoot sightings up there, aren't there?

01:23:24.000 Northern California?

01:23:25.000 I don't think so.

01:23:26.000 Have you ever been to a swinger party? 0.99

01:23:31.000 Kind of yes and kind of no.

01:23:33.000 It was like...

01:23:34.000 Yeah, I guess I have.

01:23:35.000 Like you didn't know going in, but then it turned into one kind of thing.

01:23:37.000 It broke out in the middle of it?

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 Wow.

01:23:40.000 Yeah.

01:23:40.000 I want to go to one.

01:23:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:23:42.000 You'd think that until dudes are trying to fuck you. 1.00

01:23:45.000 No, I wouldn't do that. 1.00

01:23:46.000 Come on, man.

01:23:48.000 What's the hang-up, man? 1.00

01:23:50.000 Let me put it in your butt, man. 1.00

01:23:51.000 No, man. 1.00

01:23:53.000 Let me fuck your wife. 1.00

01:23:54.000 You're like, what? 1.00

01:23:55.000 Let's get out of here.

01:23:56.000 Woo! 0.99

01:23:58.000 Is that a broomstick?

01:23:59.000 I'm trying to have too much...

01:24:00.000 Yeah, Burbank style.

01:24:02.000 I got a feeling that broomstick story is going to spread.

01:24:05.000 I would imagine it would get on the internet now.

01:24:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:09.000 That's a ridiculous way to die. 0.99

01:24:11.000 Well, I have another one. 0.99

01:24:13.000 Okay.

01:24:13.000 It's pretty good.

01:24:15.000 Get a call to a dead body in...

01:24:18.000 Ambulance suicide in the jungle, Wilshire Division then.

01:24:24.000 And we roll up and here's this dead guy in an easy chair, kind of like this.

01:24:30.000 And I walk up and look and wrists are slashed, bled out.

01:24:36.000 But then I look up and his throat's also slashed.

01:24:42.000 Think about that.

01:24:43.000 His wife was saying she committed suicide. 0.97

01:24:46.000 You cannot slash your own throat and slash your own wrists.

01:24:50.000 Can you do wrists and then throw? 0.87

01:24:51.000 You can't do it?

01:24:52.000 She went to jail for murder.

01:24:54.000 He had been beating her for so many years, and she just lost it one day.

01:25:00.000 Eight million tragic stories, but he was definitely not a suicide.

01:25:03.000 Why can't you do that? 1.00

01:25:04.000 Why can't you slash your own throat and then cut your own wrists? 1.00

01:25:07.000 Why can't you do wrists and then throw? 1.00

01:25:08.000 You'll bleed out too fast.

01:25:09.000 You'll bleed out too fast?

01:25:10.000 Yeah.

01:25:11.000 Whoa.

01:25:12.000 The movies make it seem like you could actually play a piano song before you die. 1.00

01:25:16.000 She must have been a badass bitch, though, if she could pull that off. 1.00

01:25:18.000 Cut a guy's wrist and his neck. 1.00

01:25:20.000 People get tired of you kicking their ass. 1.00

01:25:22.000 It's amazing what rage can do. 1.00

01:25:26.000 Fucking assholes out there. 1.00

01:25:28.000 We have to stop that, Michael Rupert. 1.00

01:25:31.000 That's my number one goal in life lately, to figure out how to diminish the amount of assholes in the world. 0.99

01:25:35.000 It's possible. 0.99

01:25:36.000 Get off the internet.

01:25:38.000 Get off the internet?

01:25:39.000 That's the secret.

01:25:41.000 I became a cop trying to do that, and clearly that's a losing battle.

01:25:44.000 That was your motivation to become a police officer, to try to make a difference?

01:25:48.000 Absolutely.

01:25:49.000 Do you remember when you started to realize that the system was almost like unfixable?

01:25:59.000 Well, you acquire that in stages.

01:26:02.000 I mean, I pulled one worm out of a can, CIA bringing drugs into the country.

01:26:06.000 I said, this is wrong.

01:26:07.000 As soon as I get this to the right people's attention, they'll stop it immediately.

01:26:11.000 Wrong.

01:26:11.000 Of course, that was before Iran-Contra.

01:26:14.000 And so that worm turned out to be all of human industrial civilization.

01:26:18.000 It turned out to be the whole economic paradigm.

01:26:22.000 It turned out to be everything was crooked.

01:26:24.000 Everything was a lie.

01:26:26.000 Everything was manipulated.

01:26:28.000 I had a CIA friend recently who I was talking to, a former CIA guy, and he had been in a meeting, the first briefing of Bill Casey as a DCI under Ronald Reagan, Director of Central Intelligence.

01:26:43.000 Bill Casey wore the glasses.

01:26:46.000 He had been a stockbroker before he became CIA director.

01:26:50.000 There's a clue.

01:26:52.000 And Bill Casey took US domestic cocaine consumption from 60 metric tons in 1979 to 600 metric tons in 1987. And that money went to Wall Street.

01:27:06.000 So, Casey had his first briefing as DCI, and he said, Gentlemen, we will know that we are successful when everything that the American people believe is true is false.

01:27:17.000 Whoa.

01:27:21.000 Jesus Christ.

01:27:22.000 I've been around, you know.

01:27:24.000 I kept good notes.

01:27:25.000 That's why I'm alive.

01:27:26.000 I took really good notes.

01:27:28.000 And I left a good, solid record, you know.

01:27:32.000 So you think you're alive because you've said too much already and there's nothing they can do about it?

01:27:36.000 It's like it's just out there, no big deal, let them live?

01:27:38.000 I also think I'm alive because Spirit wants me alive.

01:27:41.000 Spirit?

01:27:42.000 I've had Spirit intervene so many times in my life and that's part of what the story is now that I have to tell in my next book because there is something powerful and I think wonderful afoot here and all I can do is tell the truth about it but it would be dishonest of me as a journalist to leave that out of the work that I've already done.

01:28:02.000 When you exposed all this, when you exposed the CIA, when you stepped in front of the...

01:28:08.000 What was the man's designation?

01:28:11.000 John Deutsch.

01:28:13.000 He was DCI, Director of Central Intelligence, appointed by Bill Clinton.

01:28:17.000 That was an incredibly courageous thing to do on camera. 1.00

01:28:19.000 To step in and not just say that you were a former Los Angeles police officer, I had a lot of shit. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Yeah, that must be the worst fucking case scenario for the creepy Some industrialist cunts that run the world. 1.00

01:28:49.000 Some dude who wants to be a superhero. 1.00

01:28:52.000 Some dude who wants to save the world.

01:28:54.000 I'm just pissed off.

01:28:57.000 I hear you. 0.99

01:28:58.000 Just fucking righteously pissed off. 0.98

01:29:01.000 For a good reason. 0.98

01:29:02.000 And you don't want to recognize this, but that's a hero move. 0.99

01:29:05.000 When a guy does that and stands in front of a motherfucker like that and you say what you said, it's... 0.99

01:29:11.000 Brian, do you have that clip? 0.99

01:29:13.000 Pull that clip up, because for the people who don't know, who haven't heard this or seen this, this is pretty intense stuff, man.

01:29:21.000 Gonna make me smoke?

01:29:22.000 Yeah, go ahead and smoke. 0.56

01:29:23.000 Well, it's a courageous move, man.

01:29:25.000 I mean, it takes a lot.

01:29:27.000 I couldn't help it.

01:29:28.000 I know you couldn't help it.

01:29:28.000 If you're courageous, you can't help it.

01:29:32.000 What I wanted to get at was what was your thought process and what was it like when you finally got that information out, when it came out of your mouth?

01:29:40.000 What did that feel like when that whole courtroom was cheering?

01:29:44.000 That was a high school auditorium.

01:29:46.000 There were 1,200 people in there.

01:29:50.000 It was unbelievably high.

01:29:54.000 It was like super peak awareness.

01:29:56.000 You know how it is.

01:29:57.000 You know how it is.

01:29:59.000 And it was like, whoa.

01:30:01.000 It was like, one of my favorite maxims is don't shoot unless you get a headshot.

01:30:05.000 And I had John Deutsch in a headshot. 1.00

01:30:07.000 And I pulled the fucking trigger. 1.00

01:30:09.000 And that cost him his appointment as Secretary of Defense. 1.00

01:30:12.000 Really?

01:30:13.000 Yeah.

01:30:14.000 Because you clowned him like that?

01:30:15.000 He didn't have anything to say. 0.82

01:30:17.000 He was stammering like a zombie.

01:30:18.000 He was wringing his hands. 0.99

01:30:20.000 He looked like the typical evil white dude that's exploiting. 0.98

01:30:26.000 Yeah, that's it. 0.99

01:30:28.000 Back it up so people can see it.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 15, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #217 - Michael Ruppert

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