The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2173 - Jimmy Dore

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00:00:11.000 What's your love to take, bud?

00:00:13.000 It's Zionism. 0.95

00:00:15.000 You know, if he didn't have that, I think he could be president, but...

00:00:20.000 You mean RFK Jr.?

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:21.000 Oh.

00:00:22.000 I was confused.

00:00:23.000 I meant figuratively.

00:00:24.000 I was like, how does this have anything to do with the boycott of Starbucks and McDonald's and Sirhan Sirhan?

00:00:29.000 Like, what? 0.99

00:00:30.000 Some rabbit hole shit I didn't know about? 0.99

00:00:32.000 Is that possible? 0.99

00:00:33.000 You know, Sirhan Sirhan, his house was in Pasadena, which was close to where I used to live.

00:00:38.000 Really?

00:00:39.000 Yeah, one day my wife was like, yeah, Sirhan Sirhan lives over here.

00:00:42.000 I'm like, get out of here.

00:00:43.000 I didn't know.

00:00:44.000 Have you ever read into the MKUltra connection between Sirhan Sirhan, Jack Ruby, and Jolly West? 0.99

00:00:51.000 So, no, I haven't, but now I'm working with Kurt Metzger, and he knows all that shit. 0.99

00:00:57.000 He knows too much. 0.99

00:00:59.000 I'm like, he could just go on.

00:01:01.000 You've ruined him.

00:01:03.000 I don't think he's aware of so many legitimate, actual conspiracies, meaning where governments and corporations conspire against the American people, lie, twist facts, distort things.

00:01:15.000 But Kurt is one of those guys that once he finds out something, You know, because he grew up in a cult, right?

00:01:21.000 So he's in a Jehovah's Witness cult when he was young.

00:01:23.000 Sorry, Jehovah's Witnesses. 1.00

00:01:25.000 And then becomes a comedian, and he's so averse to bullshit. 1.00

00:01:31.000 He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no! 1.00

00:01:33.000 Because, like, you fucking ruined my childhood. 0.98

00:01:35.000 I know what this is. 0.99

00:01:36.000 I've seen this before.

00:01:37.000 I've seen this in another form.

00:01:39.000 I know what this is.

00:01:40.000 Yeah, that's his, like, superpower, because he's been through it.

00:01:43.000 You ruined him.

00:01:44.000 His show, you ruined him. 0.94

00:01:46.000 He's so crazy now.

00:01:49.000 He's so mad now.

00:01:50.000 Do you see him get upset on the show?

00:01:51.000 He gets legit angry.

00:01:53.000 Here it is.

00:01:53.000 Other controversial cases West was assigned to, including evaluating Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles June 5th, 1968. West claimed Sirhan was the subject of psychic driving.

00:02:08.000 A mind-altering technique involving hypnosis or paralytic drugs.

00:02:13.000 Psychiatrists often use barbiturates for this. 1.00

00:02:15.000 Settle the fuck down. 1.00

00:02:17.000 You used acid. 1.00

00:02:18.000 Stop lying.

00:02:19.000 What is this?

00:02:20.000 Oh, maybe possibly barbiturates or something legal.

00:02:23.000 No, they were using acid.

00:02:24.000 Who's this Wes guy?

00:02:25.000 Jolly West was the head of MKUltra.

00:02:27.000 Oh, no kidding.

00:02:28.000 He was the guy that they chronicle extensively in Thomas O'Neill's book, Chaos, about the Manson case.

00:02:34.000 Oh, so, yeah, my wife is reading that right now. 0.97

00:02:37.000 Goddamn, that's a good book. 0.79

00:02:38.000 And she has it on audiobook, so I'll walk to your house and I'll hear, like, what the... 0.98

00:02:42.000 You know how crazy that book is?

00:02:44.000 Tom was Greg Fitzsimmons' roommate in New York.

00:02:48.000 And then also, not roommate, excuse me, neighbor.

00:02:51.000 He was his neighbor in New York.

00:02:52.000 And then also his neighbor in Venice, California.

00:02:55.000 So they were near each other.

00:02:57.000 For 20 years this guy's been working on this.

00:03:00.000 He started working on it as an article.

00:03:02.000 Right?

00:03:02.000 So he writes it as an article, but then once he starts getting into the information, it's so extensive, it's so crazy, that he can't finish the article.

00:03:09.000 Because the article is just an anniversary of the Manson assassinations, the Manson killings.

00:03:14.000 So then... 0.99

00:03:16.000 Twenty years later, he finally puts out this book, and he's got enough information for another fucking book. 0.99

00:03:21.000 And it's wild. 0.99

00:03:23.000 It's all a CIA plot.

00:03:25.000 The Manson family was all...

00:03:28.000 Manson was visited in prison by Jolly West.

00:03:31.000 They trained him, allegedly, in hypnosis techniques, using LSD, how to mind control people.

00:03:39.000 He would not do the acid, but he would give the acid to the people, which is something also that apparently...

00:03:45.000 The MKUltra people trained him.

00:03:47.000 And he would get them to commit evil acts.

00:03:50.000 And the whole thing was to discredit the anti-war movement.

00:03:55.000 That's the whole thing was the hippies.

00:03:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:58.000 Yeah, so they turned hippies into something fucking terrifying. 0.99

00:04:01.000 So hippies used to be like, oh, she's a flower child. 0.99

00:04:05.000 Oh, they're peace and love, you know, cute, nice stuff. 1.00

00:04:08.000 But then they turned hippies into fucking psychotic murderers who cut babies out of movie stars' bellies and paint on the wall, pig, you know, that kind of shit. 1.00

00:04:19.000 Yeah, Kurt was also telling me about that. 1.00

00:04:22.000 Like, that's the perfect way to discredit the anti-war movement.

00:04:25.000 Yes.

00:04:26.000 Well, that's also why the Psychedelics Act of 1970 was passed.

00:04:29.000 Oh, really?

00:04:30.000 Yes, the Psychedelic Act of 1970 was passed to go after the Black Panthers, and to go after the civil rights leaders, and to go after the anti-war movement.

00:04:39.000 Because those people were all taking drugs.

00:04:41.000 So they're eating mushrooms and trying to come to some sort of an understanding of our place in the universe.

00:04:47.000 And they said, okay, we're going to take all of these psychedelic compounds that are literally creating a cultural revolution.

00:04:53.000 So you go from the 1950s.

00:04:56.000 I always say music is the best representation of that.

00:05:00.000 And comedy as well, but really music.

00:05:02.000 If you look at Buddy Holly, great music, great stuff.

00:05:07.000 And then Jimi Hendrix is 10 years later. 0.99

00:05:09.000 What the fuck is that? 0.98

00:05:11.000 That's like a revolution. 0.99

00:05:13.000 Like, out of nowhere, something is insanely different.

00:05:17.000 Like, it's not even from this earth.

00:05:19.000 Not even from this earth.

00:05:20.000 That's all psychedelics.

00:05:22.000 And we've never had a leap like that since.

00:05:24.000 Nope.

00:05:24.000 Isn't that weird?

00:05:25.000 Like, you listen to music from the 80s, and a lot of it sounds like it could be made today.

00:05:29.000 It's coke music.

00:05:31.000 The 80s, they were all doing coke.

00:05:32.000 They were watching Miami Vice, they were doing coke, wearing no socks with loafers.

00:05:38.000 But remember, I mean, whenever I hear a Prince song, I'm like, oh, that could be made today.

00:05:43.000 That could have been from right now.

00:05:44.000 Yeah, well, Prince was the most versatile, right?

00:05:47.000 Because he could do anything. 0.95

00:05:48.000 Like, if you go to his early stuff, it was like this real sweet music about fucking, you know? 1.00

00:05:54.000 Yes, yes, he was all about fucking. 0.99

00:05:55.000 Like Head, you ever heard that song, Head, like from his first album? 1.00

00:05:58.000 Or I think his second album?

00:06:00.000 God, he was good.

00:06:01.000 He was so good.

00:06:02.000 I love that he had that, there was that band, Morris Day in the Time.

00:06:06.000 Yes!

00:06:07.000 I like them almost more than Prince.

00:06:09.000 I just like them.

00:06:10.000 Oh, he's got this one song that's on our, I think it's on the playlist.

00:06:13.000 I hope it's on the playlist.

00:06:14.000 It's called, if it's not, I'm going to put it on there right now.

00:06:16.000 It's called Cool.

00:06:18.000 Because I'm cool.

00:06:19.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:06:21.000 Am I done in San Francisco?

00:06:25.000 Dance all night in Rome.

00:06:26.000 That's it, yeah. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Yeah, Morris Day was the shit. 1.00

00:06:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:29.000 Maurice, bring me back. 1.00

00:06:31.000 I love that.

00:06:32.000 I thought that Morris Day was going to be bigger than...

00:06:36.000 I know.

00:06:36.000 Well, I didn't think he was ever going to be bigger than Prince.

00:06:38.000 I think Prince is a legitimate...

00:06:40.000 Was, excuse me, a legitimate genius.

00:06:42.000 Oh, yeah, he was. 1.00

00:06:43.000 And he's another guy that we lost because of fucking bullshit. 1.00

00:06:47.000 Because of fentanyl. 1.00

00:06:49.000 Yeah, you think that's what...

00:06:50.000 Okay.

00:06:51.000 That's what happened to him.

00:06:52.000 What do you think about...

00:06:53.000 So now people are revisiting the...

00:06:55.000 God, it wasn't in the playlist.

00:06:56.000 It is now.

00:06:57.000 Oh, it is?

00:06:57.000 I had to put it in the Mothership playlist.

00:06:58.000 How's that not in there?

00:06:59.000 He has a song called Walk Everybody Walk Your Body.

00:07:02.000 Yeah.

00:07:03.000 Anybody walk your body.

00:07:04.000 Yeah.

00:07:04.000 I'm about to walk a hole in my Stacey's.

00:07:06.000 He was just so cool.

00:07:07.000 And so then I would go out and buy Stacey Adams shoes.

00:07:10.000 Yeah.

00:07:11.000 I would.

00:07:12.000 And so there was this place, oh, there was a very derogatory, it was Maxwell Street in Chicago, and they used to call it, I can't say it, because it's anti-Semitic.

00:07:25.000 And so we would go down there, and you could walk into all these clothes stores, and you could bargain with them.

00:07:33.000 And I never experienced that before.

00:07:35.000 You walk in and usually the price was the price.

00:07:37.000 You go to the mall, the price is...

00:07:38.000 You can't bargain, but you can bargain.

00:07:40.000 So it was an exciting thing to do.

00:07:42.000 Me and my brothers would all go down there and you'd go into all these stores and you'd put all these clothes together and we'd start bartering.

00:07:50.000 Like, okay, how about this?

00:07:51.000 How about that?

00:07:51.000 It was fun.

00:07:52.000 I miss those days.

00:07:54.000 That's where in the Blues Brothers, remember they go down to get the black guy who's the clarinet player and...

00:08:03.000 You better think, think, think.

00:08:05.000 So that's where that took place.

00:08:08.000 Oh, wow.

00:08:10.000 But I think that's all gone now.

00:08:12.000 I think they got rid of that.

00:08:13.000 And I don't know what they put it.

00:08:15.000 It's probably an Applebee's.

00:08:18.000 I think the University of Illinois-Chicago may be expanded into there.

00:08:24.000 Oh, interesting.

00:08:25.000 Those were the days.

00:08:27.000 I miss the Morris Day and the time.

00:08:28.000 I miss those days.

00:08:29.000 These are the best days.

00:08:31.000 These days right now.

00:08:32.000 These are the best days.

00:08:33.000 You think?

00:08:34.000 Yeah, by far.

00:08:35.000 Well, they are for me.

00:08:36.000 By far for everybody, because we get all the other stuff from those other eras.

00:08:41.000 We still can listen to that, too.

00:08:42.000 We can still watch that, too.

00:08:43.000 But we have a bizarre time where the world is waking up, where people are so much more aware of the corruption and just the way the world works.

00:08:56.000 It's more highlighted than it's ever been before.

00:08:59.000 And I think it's more fun. 1.00

00:09:02.000 It's like some of the things that are stupid are so stupid. 1.00

00:09:05.000 Like when you see Biden, we beat Medicare. 1.00

00:09:08.000 And they go, thank you, Mr. President.

00:09:10.000 And they smash cut. 0.99

00:09:11.000 Like, how the fuck is that real? 0.99

00:09:13.000 How is that real? 0.99

00:09:14.000 The guy like locks up like Windows 95, stammers for 15 seconds.

00:09:18.000 And then he says, we beat Medicare.

00:09:21.000 I was doing a show the other night at the Hotel Cafe in Hollywood, and I do a joke about Joe Biden, you know, like, why don't they get a dog to leave him off stage, you know, and the people in the crowd, like, they're all like 20-something Hollywood people, and they go, aww.

00:09:38.000 I was like, what?

00:09:41.000 I have friends like you.

00:09:43.000 Listen, they've done a good job.

00:09:45.000 They've done a really good job of pretending that they're compassionate.

00:09:49.000 I love Joe Biden.

00:09:49.000 I've always loved Joe.

00:09:50.000 No one's ever fucking loved Joe Biden. 0.99

00:09:53.000 He's always been a joke and a punchline. 0.98

00:09:56.000 And this idea that somehow it's Joe Biden's integrity and truth-telling against Donald Trump.

00:10:01.000 He lied, lied. 0.99

00:10:02.000 The first time Joe Biden ran for president, he had to drop out because he got exposed for being a pathological liar. 0.92

00:10:08.000 He said he graduated at the top of his class.

00:10:11.000 He graduated at the bottom.

00:10:12.000 He said he had three majors.

00:10:13.000 He said he was chosen the most outstanding political...

00:10:16.000 No, it was all lies.

00:10:17.000 And then he got caught plagiarizing.

00:10:19.000 Someone else, not only just their speeches, but their life story.

00:10:22.000 It was like, who does that?

00:10:24.000 And so he's been a joke, always was a joke.

00:10:27.000 And this idea, you know, the reason why black and brown had to... 1.00

00:10:32.000 I had to, you know, tell this to Cornel West when he came on my show.

00:10:36.000 Hey, the reason why black and brown people are locked up at way higher rates than their population is because of Joe Biden, not because of Donald Trump.

00:10:42.000 Donald Trump actually did the step back, right?

00:10:44.000 Which is probably why he's getting 20% of the black vote right now.

00:10:50.000 You're right.

00:10:51.000 All their narratives are falling away.

00:10:52.000 People are waking up.

00:10:54.000 And not only in America, but I do miss a time before cell phones.

00:11:01.000 The internet.

00:11:02.000 It was more of an innocent time.

00:11:04.000 I do miss that time.

00:11:05.000 I'm glad we went through it.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm also glad.

00:11:08.000 But I don't miss it.

00:11:10.000 Okay, but...

00:11:11.000 But I was just in Europe, right?

00:11:16.000 I went on an 11-day tour or whatever, and...

00:11:21.000 I didn't know if I was going to have, you know, anybody's going to show up. 0.99

00:11:23.000 They did, and it's like the same shit. 0.99

00:11:27.000 People, they're upset at the media, they're upset at the control, they're upset at the censorship. 0.99

00:11:32.000 And I didn't know, like Jeff Bezos, I was in Norway, and they're like, yeah, Jeff Bezos owns frickin' media here too.

00:11:37.000 I'm like, what?

00:11:38.000 I didn't know.

00:11:39.000 I never thought about it like that.

00:11:40.000 Of course they would.

00:11:41.000 Of course. 1.00

00:11:42.000 And everybody's going through the same shit. 1.00

00:11:45.000 London, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, they're all... 0.99

00:11:57.000 That's what's good about today.

00:11:59.000 Because before, the media used to do exactly what they're doing now, but it wasn't transparent.

00:12:05.000 Nobody knew, right?

00:12:06.000 Well, there used to be 50 giant media companies, so there used to be more truth that could get out, but now, because of Bill Clinton and the Telecommunications Act in 1996, we went from 50 giant media companies down to six, meaning that every TV show,

00:12:21.000 every newspaper, every magazine, every radio show, it all comes from one of the six companies.

00:12:27.000 And that's why journalism sucks so much right now, because journalists used to come from blue-collar backgrounds like me, but now they know they all have to work for one of the six billionaire-owned companies, and so the billionaires handpicked those people from Ivy League schools now, and they're all going to be class loyal.

00:12:44.000 And so that's why the whole thing is, you know...

00:12:47.000 It's a great time, but also we're pitted against each other now by the media like never before, right?

00:12:52.000 Like no matter what the story is, they have their minions in the press reported in a way that makes you hate your neighbor and blame your neighbor and not the guys doing it, right?

00:13:03.000 Yeah.

00:13:04.000 So the oligarchy keeps us fighting amongst each other, and that's real.

00:13:08.000 That's not made up.

00:13:10.000 I mean, look at how they lied about...

00:13:12.000 The biggest story, like, so the Kyle Rittenhouse story, right?

00:13:16.000 Now, I hated that kid because the corporate media told me he was a white supremacist who didn't live in that community. 0.98

00:13:23.000 He traveled across state lines with guns to shoot three black people at a Black Lives Matter rally, and I hated him. 0.98

00:13:28.000 And then I watched the trial. 0.90

00:13:30.000 And it turns out he did live in that community.

00:13:32.000 He was a lifeguard in that community.

00:13:35.000 He was asked to protect a car dealership by immigrants of color because the cops wouldn't.

00:13:40.000 And he didn't travel across state lines with guns. 0.96

00:13:44.000 And he didn't shoot three black people. 0.99

00:13:45.000 He shot three white people. 0.98

00:13:46.000 And I was like, what? 0.94

00:13:47.000 I think he only shot two guys.

00:13:50.000 Maybe you're right.

00:13:51.000 He killed one.

00:13:53.000 Did he shoot three? 0.72

00:13:54.000 And then he shot the other guy through the arm. 0.98

00:13:57.000 And they're all three criminals.

00:13:59.000 That's another part they leave out. 1.00

00:14:00.000 They're all three criminals, terrible people. 0.95

00:14:02.000 This is the thing about riots, right? 0.98

00:14:06.000 Riots are too much like a war.

00:14:08.000 Like, any time there's a gathering, protests, when people get angry and they're marching, I think that ignites in us the same feelings of war. 0.99

00:14:17.000 And people start doing wild, crazy shit. 0.98

00:14:19.000 They went after that dude with a skateboard and tried to hit him with a skateboard. 0.99

00:14:22.000 He ran away from them before he shot him.

00:14:24.000 So he shot the first guy who was the pedophile, right?

00:14:27.000 And we know that guy had threatened to... 0.61

00:14:29.000 So he shot and killed two men, wounded another man.

00:14:32.000 So three.

00:14:33.000 So he killed two and wounded one.

00:14:35.000 And the first guy he shot had threatened to kill him all day long, and we know that he attacked him because his fingerprints are on the gun barrel.

00:14:42.000 It even says it right there in Wikipedia.

00:14:44.000 Stop, go back.

00:14:45.000 Yeah, grab the barrel of his rifle.

00:14:46.000 There it is.

00:14:47.000 But it says, look at this, race was a major theme in the U.S. media commentary, although Rittenhouse and those he shot were white.

00:14:54.000 Were white! 0.97

00:14:54.000 Isn't that wild? 0.97

00:14:55.000 Yes!

00:14:56.000 Most people didn't know, including people that met Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:14:59.000 Like someone, David Lucas, the stand-up comedian, he knows Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:15:02.000 He brought Kyle Rittenhouse to the mothership.

00:15:05.000 And guys who were there, who met him, the guys you shot were white?

00:15:10.000 Yeah.

00:15:11.000 Everybody's like, what?

00:15:12.000 Yeah.

00:15:12.000 And then...

00:15:13.000 You have to tell them, not only were they white, like, these guys were like career criminals. 0.99

00:15:16.000 One guy was a pedophile. 0.99

00:15:18.000 One guy pulled a gun on him. 0.96

00:15:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:21.000 The media just fucked that kid, and he won. 0.98

00:15:24.000 And he won, and he got exonerated, and, you know, and out. 0.99

00:15:27.000 Go ahead.

00:15:28.000 No, people say to me, they go, Jimmy, why are you defending Kyle Rittenhouse?

00:15:31.000 I go, I'm not defending Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:15:32.000 I don't know Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:15:34.000 I'm defending the truth.

00:15:35.000 And why aren't you pissed off that the corporate media lied about a 16-year-old kid to divide the country?

00:15:41.000 Because that's what that was about.

00:15:42.000 Yeah.

00:15:42.000 And you're just going to polarize that kid even more.

00:15:44.000 I mean, that kid's going to lean so far right now.

00:15:47.000 Of course.

00:15:48.000 They're the only people that stood by him.

00:15:50.000 And everybody else lied about him.

00:15:51.000 The media lied about him.

00:15:53.000 And so many people had this.

00:15:54.000 So there's surface narratives, right?

00:15:57.000 And surface narratives are the best.

00:15:59.000 The media is the best at propagating surface narratives.

00:16:02.000 They're best at headlines, even if they're misleading.

00:16:05.000 Safe and effective.

00:16:06.000 Yeah, but these surface narratives are the ones that get into people's heads that are the least informed.

00:16:11.000 And that's the general population.

00:16:13.000 People still think Russiagate's real.

00:16:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:15.000 Look at people like Bill Maher.

00:16:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:17.000 That was shocking to me.

00:16:18.000 I'm like, oh, I thought he just hated Trump.

00:16:21.000 He doesn't even know what the WEF is all about.

00:16:23.000 Did you see Roseanne had to tell him?

00:16:25.000 He didn't even know what MKUltra was.

00:16:27.000 That's crazy.

00:16:29.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:16:30.000 And then he got the balls to tell Bill Burr, this isn't your lane. 0.99

00:16:32.000 It's not your lane either, Bill. 1.00

00:16:33.000 You don't know fucking anything. 1.00

00:16:35.000 Bro, Bill chewed him up. 1.00

00:16:36.000 That was wild.

00:16:37.000 That was hilarious.

00:16:38.000 You can't go tat tat tat like that with Bill because he does that to himself all day.

00:16:43.000 All day.

00:16:44.000 He's like battling out in his own mind, having arguments. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Well, look at you, fucking Bill. 1.00

00:16:49.000 Look at you. 1.00

00:16:49.000 You fucking stupid sneakers on. 1.00

00:16:51.000 You're 55 years old. 1.00

00:16:52.000 Dressing like a teenager. 1.00

00:16:54.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:16:55.000 What'd you ever do? 1.00

00:16:56.000 Why should people listen to you? 1.00

00:16:57.000 You're fucking pasty retard. 1.00

00:16:59.000 You're not a general. 1.00

00:16:59.000 You never did anything. 1.00

00:17:00.000 Exactly.

00:17:01.000 Exactly.

00:17:02.000 But that's the, you know, the biggest shocker to me is, like, the bubble that people live in, right?

00:17:10.000 And it's like, it's just like with the debate.

00:17:13.000 Like, do you think that the lies that the media has been telling?

00:17:17.000 I've been saying Joe Biden's been a demented walking death rattle since 2019. And it's because it's been obvious that he's suffering from something.

00:17:25.000 Well, there's a decline, right?

00:17:26.000 If you just saw him in 2019, it wouldn't be as obvious.

00:17:30.000 But if you saw him from, like, when he was running for president in 1988, which I did, did I ever tell you about Joe Biden night that we used to have at Stitches?

00:17:39.000 Stitches Comedy Club in 1988, we had Joe Biden night.

00:17:43.000 And what is that?

00:17:43.000 That would mean I would go on stage and do your act, and you would go on stage and do my act.

00:17:48.000 Oh, because he's a plagiarist.

00:17:48.000 Exactly.

00:17:49.000 So we would call it Joe Biden Night, and all the comics would go up and do each other's acts.

00:17:56.000 That sounds like fun.

00:17:58.000 It was fun.

00:17:58.000 It was so fun.

00:17:59.000 Because just like some guys, you know, you watch a guy like Jimmy Tingle or, you know, back in those days, Steve Sweeney.

00:18:04.000 You get to go up and do their act.

00:18:07.000 Fitzy, fitzy, fitzy, fitzy, fitzy.

00:18:08.000 And the guys you work with all the time, where you got to see their set all the time, you go up and do their act.

00:18:13.000 And we had a great time.

00:18:14.000 But it was open mockery that he was a known plagiarist.

00:18:17.000 In 88. In 88. I know that's why this whole, this rehabilitation, it's all because of Trump derangement syndrome.

00:18:24.000 They have to pretend like Joe Biden's some kind of guy with integrity and dignity instead of, you know, the horrible criminal anti-worker guy that he's been his whole life. 0.99

00:18:31.000 He's been anti-student, anti-worker, and he crossed a goddamn railroad strike. 0.96

00:18:37.000 And everybody just memory holds that, that that happened. 0.98

00:18:40.000 Like, if Trump did that, it would be on billboards forever.

00:18:43.000 And, again, it's...

00:18:47.000 Joe, why do you think?

00:18:50.000 Because my whole life, the establishment loved Donald Trump, right?

00:18:52.000 Well, because the only option is, if you don't go with Biden, then you're not with the Democrats.

00:18:59.000 And the Democrats view themselves as a team.

00:19:01.000 They view themselves as a team as much as patriots think of America first.

00:19:06.000 It's like that team is Democrats first.

00:19:08.000 And that's the only representation they have right now.

00:19:11.000 Like, apparently, now I don't know if this is true, but someone was telling, were you telling me about this, Jamie?

00:19:15.000 About the live streaming of, uh, was it you?

00:19:19.000 Or was it someone else?

00:19:20.000 Of, uh, Rob Reiner and all these people. 1.00

00:19:23.000 Oh, they were crap. 0.99

00:19:24.000 I'll find the story. 1.00

00:19:25.000 They were all live streaming the debate and freaking out.

00:19:28.000 Barbara Streisand's crying.

00:19:29.000 Ah! 0.99

00:19:30.000 These people are deranged. 0.97

00:19:32.000 These people are no different than the Manson family in that they are in a cult. 0.92

00:19:38.000 They're locked into this ideology.

00:19:40.000 It's not as bad as the Manson family, but it's clearly a cult.

00:19:44.000 It's an ideological cult where you're not willing to go against any of the doctrines of the cult.

00:19:49.000 And you're not allowed to.

00:19:51.000 You have to practice groupthink, and that's it.

00:19:54.000 And Bill Maher's a heretic, even though he's very much a liberal.

00:19:57.000 He's a heretic.

00:19:57.000 Because every once in a while, he'll tell the truth.

00:20:00.000 A lot of times.

00:20:01.000 He's not as informed as I'd like him to be about some of the stuff, like MKUltra, the WEF. Or Ukraine.

00:20:08.000 Well, I don't know what he knows about Ukraine, but he hates Donald Trump.

00:20:11.000 But I think...

00:20:11.000 I couldn't figure it out on the podcast.

00:20:13.000 He wouldn't even have a rational discussion as to why he hates him. 1.00

00:20:16.000 He's crazy. 0.99

00:20:18.000 But the thing he... 0.98

00:20:20.000 I found out that he was sued by Donald Trump.

00:20:22.000 Yes, so that was...

00:20:23.000 That's probably it.

00:20:24.000 Because when he said that Donald Trump...

00:20:25.000 He was an orangutan.

00:20:27.000 And so he sued him.

00:20:30.000 A Hollywood debate watch party with Rob...

00:20:32.000 Jake Fonda ended in shouts and tears.

00:20:34.000 Ha ha ha! 1.00

00:20:36.000 That should have been, fuck keeping up with the Kardashians. 1.00

00:20:38.000 That should be the fucking, the real reality show. 1.00

00:20:42.000 And that's what you get, and I say good for you. 1.00

00:20:43.000 That's what you get for fucking lying. 1.00

00:20:45.000 They've all lied. 1.00

00:20:46.000 I think the media took just as big a hit as Joe Biden did that night.

00:20:50.000 Because now, I mean, just a few weeks ago, there's that Joe Scarborough, that mental case on Morning Joe on MSNBC, and he was saying, let me tell you something, and if you don't believe it, F you.

00:21:00.000 He says this on...

00:21:01.000 6 in the morning.

00:21:01.000 This is what he's telling his audience.

00:21:03.000 F you.

00:21:03.000 This is the best version of Joe Biden I've ever seen.

00:21:07.000 You saw that clip, right?

00:21:08.000 This is the best version.

00:21:10.000 Let's play it.

00:21:11.000 Let's play it because it's amazing.

00:21:12.000 It is amazing.

00:21:13.000 Wasn't he a Republican at one point in time?

00:21:15.000 Yes! 1.00

00:21:16.000 And they say that Trump is the liar. 0.81

00:21:18.000 It's like they are right now in the middle of telling the biggest lie that's ever been told in politics. 0.91

00:21:22.000 This is bigger than FDR can walk.

00:21:24.000 This is bigger than that.

00:21:26.000 Hampton real estate is not cheap.

00:21:30.000 And you got to do some things maybe you don't want to do if you want to buy that sweet house and just drink your champagne by the lake.

00:21:36.000 Or the bay, rather. 0.96

00:21:37.000 Just looking over in the ocean going, I fucking made it, baby. 0.92

00:21:40.000 I'm here in the Hamptons. 0.98

00:21:43.000 I'm about to go to dinner with Rob Reiner.

00:21:48.000 I've always said, hey, I don't know if I'm better or worse than those people, but no one ever made an offer to buy me out, so I don't know how I would react.

00:21:59.000 I don't think it's a buyout or a sellout thing, man.

00:22:02.000 That's a thing that people think.

00:22:04.000 I think what happens is you get locked into a cult.

00:22:07.000 And then I think also you get invited to things with important people.

00:22:10.000 And that 100% will shape the way you talk about stuff.

00:22:14.000 If you get invited to a dinner with Bill Gates and some very important people, when their name comes up, you're going to defend them.

00:22:21.000 Well, Barack Obama talked about how just being in the room with the donor class changes you.

00:22:27.000 Just being in the room with them.

00:22:28.000 Of course.

00:22:28.000 And Chris Hayes wrote a book called The Twilight of the Elite about how that happens.

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 And then he became a thing he wrote about.

00:22:35.000 It's unbelievable.

00:22:36.000 Yeah, I don't know much about that.

00:22:38.000 Don't you think it's amazing how they fired the Arab reporters and the Muslim reporters at MSNBC because they were telling a little bit of the truth about what's happening or they were confronting people over it? 0.92

00:22:52.000 You have to have one narrative.

00:22:55.000 And that's it.

00:22:56.000 But none of the...

00:22:57.000 They're supposed to stand up for these...

00:22:59.000 Why didn't Rachel Maddow say something?

00:23:01.000 Why didn't Chris Hayes...

00:23:02.000 None of them said anything.

00:23:04.000 Fake tough guy, Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:23:06.000 None of them said anything.

00:23:08.000 They just, okay, well, keep your head down and keep taking it.

00:23:10.000 You know, Rachel Maddow gets paid $100,000 a day. 1.00

00:23:13.000 To me, I don't know.

00:23:14.000 That's a lot of money.

00:23:15.000 Good for her.

00:23:16.000 You buy a lot of man suits with that money.

00:23:18.000 Do you have a Joe Scarborough video?

00:23:20.000 When she was being interviewed by Ben, who's the, what's his name?

00:23:25.000 Ben, the guy who did Tropic Thunder, Ben, what's it?

00:23:30.000 Ben Stiller.

00:23:30.000 Oh, Ben Stiller.

00:23:31.000 They were wearing the exact same suit.

00:23:33.000 Of course.

00:23:35.000 Of course. 0.95

00:23:37.000 That's one way that, for whatever reason, hardcore lesbians, when they want to be taken seriously, they dress like a man. 1.00

00:23:43.000 And they dress like a man in a business outfit. 0.79

00:23:45.000 Yeah.

00:23:46.000 Like Hannah Gadsby. 0.72

00:23:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:48.000 Look how she dresses. 1.00

00:23:49.000 She puts a suit jacket on.

00:23:50.000 She's fantastic.

00:23:51.000 I'm serious.

00:23:51.000 I'm here for the meeting.

00:23:53.000 I'm here to explain things to you people.

00:23:54.000 Kirk can't stop talking.

00:23:55.000 Look at Joe Scarborough.

00:23:57.000 What does he say?

00:23:58.000 Is this the one you're looking for?

00:23:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:59.000 Let me hear it.

00:24:04.000 Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth. 0.95

00:24:08.000 And F you if you can't handle the truth.

00:24:11.000 It's six in the morning.

00:24:12.000 F you.

00:24:13.000 This version of Biden Intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.

00:24:21.000 Not a close second.

00:24:22.000 I've known him for years.

00:24:24.000 Not a close second.

00:24:24.000 The Brzezinski's have known him for 50 years.

00:24:26.000 And we're all fucking liars. 1.00

00:24:28.000 I wouldn't say it. 1.00

00:24:32.000 And these people say that Trump's a liar. 1.00

00:24:34.000 I mean, Trump's a huge bullshitter for sure. 1.00

00:24:37.000 We're in a Coen Brothers movie. 0.99

00:24:39.000 This is unbelievable.

00:24:40.000 And so, how could...

00:24:42.000 If you...

00:24:42.000 Can you imagine...

00:24:43.000 I don't know how many people watch that show.

00:24:46.000 45 people.

00:24:47.000 Can you imagine still tuning in after that?

00:24:51.000 Yes! 0.99

00:24:51.000 I would fucking wake and bake and let's go. 0.99

00:24:54.000 Tell me about the world, Joe. 0.99

00:24:55.000 Well, I used to watch...

00:24:58.000 I used to, before I went to sleep, I used to be a night owl when I was just a comedian before my show.

00:25:06.000 And so I would wait till 3 in the morning.

00:25:09.000 I'd be up late.

00:25:10.000 I'm like, oh, I can wait.

00:25:11.000 I can watch Joe Scarborough before I go to bed.

00:25:14.000 Morning Joe.

00:25:14.000 And the joke I used to do is I watch it before I go to bed because I like to go to bed angry.

00:25:22.000 I don't know how anybody could watch that again after that.

00:25:25.000 And have any self-respect.

00:25:27.000 Unless you're high and you're enjoying it.

00:25:30.000 You have to be high and enjoying it.

00:25:31.000 And then it becomes high comedy.

00:25:33.000 Because it's so good.

00:25:35.000 That was so good.

00:25:36.000 That was so good.

00:25:38.000 If you put that in a movie, people wouldn't buy it.

00:25:41.000 They would go, come on.

00:25:42.000 That's not real.

00:25:43.000 No one would do that. 1.00

00:25:44.000 This is stupid. 1.00

00:25:45.000 I've lost my disbelief. 1.00

00:25:47.000 F you.

00:25:48.000 He's going to tell his own audience, F you, if you don't believe Joe Biden's not domestic.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, if I was in a movie theater, my suspension of disbelief would go, oh, come on!

00:25:57.000 This is...

00:25:57.000 That's why I was confused when I was looking.

00:26:00.000 There's other videos I'm seeing.

00:26:01.000 That might have been a different time and time.

00:26:05.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:26:07.000 That was just a few weeks ago.

00:26:08.000 No, no, no.

00:26:08.000 This is saying right here, post the debate, and he's saying, like, they should replace...

00:26:11.000 No, after the debate, it changes the tune.

00:26:13.000 That's part of the thing.

00:26:15.000 So that was right before the...

00:26:16.000 Yeah, I thought this was after, okay.

00:26:17.000 No, that was weeks before the debate.

00:26:19.000 He's saying that. 0.98

00:26:19.000 I'm like, can you believe the balls on these people? 0.98

00:26:21.000 Crazy balls. 0.99

00:26:22.000 And so then after the debate, he does this 180, and there's all these videos that show him before and after. 0.98

00:26:28.000 The greatest 180 turnaround of all time.

00:26:30.000 So if you go to the one up there with the black and white Joe, and then I just... 0.93

00:26:33.000 That's the one.

00:26:34.000 Show that.

00:26:34.000 It's only 30 seconds.

00:26:35.000 But I undersold him when I said he was cogent.

00:26:38.000 He's far beyond cogent.

00:26:40.000 In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.

00:26:44.000 This is a battle for the future of American democracy.

00:26:49.000 And now is a good time.

00:26:52.000 In June, thank God.

00:26:54.000 In June.

00:26:55.000 And not October.

00:26:56.000 In June.

00:26:57.000 This is the last chance for Democrats to decide Whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task.

00:27:07.000 So that's just a matter of weeks in between those two jokes.

00:27:11.000 F you! 0.91

00:27:12.000 And I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

00:27:14.000 Okay, thank God we can replace him.

00:27:16.000 I have a theory about this, by the way.

00:27:19.000 So they've never done presidential debates this early in the election season before, right?

00:27:24.000 And so my theory is that his own team sabotaged him.

00:27:28.000 They knew this.

00:27:29.000 So they wanted to get Joe Biden through the primary because now all the delegates are beholden to Joe Biden means they're beholden to the Democratic Party donor class.

00:27:38.000 Yes.

00:27:39.000 So there isn't no 50% Bernie Sanders delegates out there.

00:27:42.000 They're not going to have any trouble getting them to all coalesce at the convention and pick a new person.

00:27:47.000 So they wanted to get Joe Biden to go through, and then as soon as he got through the thing, they're like, oh, let's have a debate.

00:27:53.000 And then they knew he would look like this, so then they can have enough time to get rid of him.

00:27:58.000 That seems pretty plausible that that's what's going to happen.

00:28:01.000 And guess what's going to happen now?

00:28:02.000 So they're going to have a person at the top of the ticket who nobody voted for, because they're going to choose them at the convention, and nobody voted for this person, and they're saying democracy's on the ballot.

00:28:13.000 That's the irony.

00:28:16.000 Isn't that wild?

00:28:18.000 Yeah.

00:28:18.000 Well, not only that, but what did they do to keep RFK Jr. out of the primaries to the point where he had to go independent?

00:28:25.000 So, yeah, they were making it impossible for him to get on ballots.

00:28:30.000 How did they do that?

00:28:32.000 You know what?

00:28:34.000 He told me, but I can't remember.

00:28:36.000 But they were making it...

00:28:37.000 Well, when I remember the first time I had him on my show, it was like a joke.

00:28:41.000 I'm like, dude, you're running as a Democrat.

00:28:43.000 I go, why do you think they have superdelegates?

00:28:45.000 They have superdelegates for people like you.

00:28:47.000 It's not going to happen.

00:28:48.000 I can't get excited about your candidacy.

00:28:50.000 And so anything he said, I just didn't get into it, right?

00:28:53.000 I was appreciative of the stuff he was saying around COVID and things like that, but I told him it's a fool's errand, right?

00:29:00.000 And he's like, I'm a Democrat.

00:29:01.000 I've always been a Democrat.

00:29:02.000 I'm a Democrat. 0.94

00:29:03.000 And I'm like, yeah, the Democrats are going to screw you, and they did.

00:29:06.000 And so I don't know exactly how, but it got so untenable that he couldn't run inside, because they would have these different rules that they were just making up just to screw him.

00:29:15.000 Do they do this once there's an incumbent, right?

00:29:18.000 Once there's a president in place, do they do this because there's so many jobs that are completely dependent upon that guy being in office?

00:29:24.000 Not just the Democratic Party, but that guy.

00:29:27.000 So if a new guy comes in, like if RFK Jr. comes in, if he wins, then everyone's out of a job.

00:29:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:35.000 The whole machine's out of a job.

00:29:37.000 So it's very clear, watching Joe Biden talk, very clear, that he's not making all his decisions, and someone writes his stuff down.

00:29:46.000 We've seen the cue cards that he has.

00:29:47.000 They tell him what to say.

00:29:49.000 We see him read teleprompters and say, end of quote.

00:29:52.000 He says things like that.

00:29:53.000 He just did it again.

00:29:54.000 He just did it again.

00:29:55.000 He does it all the time. 0.97

00:29:56.000 So we know that there's no fucking way he's the man behind the machine. 0.89

00:30:01.000 So that means there's a bunch of people that work for him that are essentially running the country. 0.97

00:30:05.000 And those people don't want to lose that position, including his wife.

00:30:08.000 His wife apparently, by all takes, and she did an interview afterwards, Where she said he's smarter than he's ever been, and I know him, I see him buying clothes.

00:30:17.000 She doesn't want him to stop.

00:30:18.000 Pure evil.

00:30:19.000 What is that?

00:30:20.000 That's just pure evil.

00:30:21.000 Do you think it's just like a power thing?

00:30:23.000 She's in power, she doesn't want to not be the first lady anymore? 1.00

00:30:25.000 Like, what is it?

00:30:26.000 Yeah, of course.

00:30:27.000 That's what I think it is.

00:30:28.000 How could you not... 0.97

00:30:30.000 Have compassion for your own frickin' husband. 0.95

00:30:33.000 I mean, Jesus Christ. 0.92

00:30:34.000 I mean, he should have had his keys taken away years ago, and here she is trying, and you did a good job!

00:30:41.000 You answered all the questions!

00:30:42.000 That was crazy.

00:30:43.000 That's how you talk to a three-year-old.

00:30:44.000 He answered all the questions.

00:30:46.000 I could see answering one or two, but all of them? 1.00

00:30:48.000 If my wife talked to me like that, I would just start laughing, because I'd think, oh, she's fucking with me. 1.00

00:30:52.000 I wouldn't just stand there and like, yes, I did! 0.99

00:30:55.000 It's a wild video.

00:30:57.000 Play that video.

00:30:58.000 Play that video of Jill saying that to Joe.

00:31:00.000 I saved it.

00:31:01.000 And by the way, I listened to the debate again on the plane.

00:31:03.000 Why? 0.98

00:31:04.000 Did you fucking get the pertinent information from round one? 0.99

00:31:09.000 You're like, I need to go over this with a fine-toothed comb. 0.98

00:31:11.000 Because they kept saying that, oh, because the line now is that Joe might not have answered the questions quickly or loudly, but he was telling the truth.

00:31:21.000 His first answer, he lied three times.

00:31:24.000 Joe Biden.

00:31:25.000 He lied about the Medicare's...

00:31:27.000 It's $2,000.

00:31:29.000 He said it was $200.

00:31:30.000 He lied about the diabetes, and he lied about Trump saying the bleach thing.

00:31:34.000 Trump never said the bleach thing.

00:31:35.000 He was talking about ultraviolet iridation, which is a real thing that actually works.

00:31:39.000 Yes, it actually works.

00:31:40.000 And not only that, they've used it for decades.

00:31:42.000 Yeah, but...

00:31:43.000 And there was talk about using it for respiratory diseases and shining light into the lungs.

00:31:48.000 So I... I've talked to a doctor who told me that that worked well.

00:31:57.000 And so the people, like the medical association, they came to me and they go, hey, you have to sell this technology to us.

00:32:04.000 And he said, no. 0.94

00:32:06.000 And they go, well, if you don't, we're going to have a bullshit study that says this doesn't work. 0.98

00:32:10.000 And that's exactly what they did. 0.99

00:32:12.000 Wow.

00:32:13.000 And they do that to everything.

00:32:14.000 Let's play this real quick.

00:32:17.000 You did such a great job.

00:32:19.000 You answered every question.

00:32:21.000 You knew all the time.

00:32:25.000 And let me ask the crowd.

00:32:27.000 What did Trump do?

00:32:32.000 Oh, bro, he looks so baffled.

00:32:34.000 First of all, if I was in his corner, first thing I would have done is given him a hairpiece.

00:32:37.000 Let's go, bro.

00:32:40.000 You can't compete with Trump's wacky hair.

00:32:42.000 You need fake hair. 0.66

00:32:44.000 You need fully fake hair.

00:32:45.000 I think they'll buy it.

00:32:46.000 Don't even sweat it.

00:32:47.000 We're going to glue a nice piece on you.

00:32:50.000 You're going to have a distinguished head of hair. 0.99

00:32:52.000 Second of all, whoever the fuck is giving your Botox, back off a little. 0.99

00:32:55.000 Let the guy move the forehead a little bit. 1.00

00:32:57.000 This is ridiculous. 0.92

00:32:58.000 You're not tricking me to think that he's young. 0.97

00:33:04.000 Oh no, that's not it.

00:33:05.000 Oh, when she helps him off the stage?

00:33:07.000 Yes, this is it.

00:33:07.000 Watch it.

00:33:08.000 She has to walk him down the steps.

00:33:10.000 Are they going to show it?

00:33:11.000 Show it.

00:33:11.000 Well, yeah, he's got some bad knees.

00:33:14.000 Show it.

00:33:14.000 Old war injuries, bro.

00:33:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, he was defending the Girl Scouts from the Taliban.

00:33:19.000 Look at this.

00:33:20.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.000 Look at this.

00:33:21.000 I know.

00:33:21.000 It's crazy.

00:33:22.000 He has to go sideways. 1.00

00:33:22.000 And if you don't think that's the best version, fuck you, Joe. 1.00

00:33:25.000 F you. 1.00

00:33:26.000 F you. 0.99

00:33:27.000 I love that guy because he's the tough guy Democrat.

00:33:30.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:33:30.000 He's a bulldog. 0.94

00:33:32.000 But he's a Republican. 0.98

00:33:32.000 No, no, no. 0.98

00:33:33.000 He's a Democrat.

00:33:33.000 He's on TV. Oh, yeah.

00:33:35.000 On CNBC. MSNBC. Whatever it is.

00:33:37.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 Well, that just goes to show you that there's no difference between the parties.

00:33:43.000 And I remember when Donnie Deutsch accidentally let it slip out on Joe Scarborough's show.

00:33:48.000 Is Joe Scarborough actually a Republican?

00:33:50.000 He was a Republican congressman.

00:33:51.000 But does he consider himself one now?

00:33:53.000 I think so.

00:33:55.000 For real?

00:33:56.000 Just like a never-Trump Republican?

00:33:58.000 Never-Trump Republican, yeah.

00:33:59.000 And Donnie Doidge said that, I remember if Bernie Sanders wins, this was back in 2020, if Bernie Sanders wins, I'll have to vote for Trump.

00:34:07.000 And Joe Scarborough's like, do you hear what you're saying?

00:34:11.000 And Donnie Doidge's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why I said that. 1.00

00:34:13.000 I know why you said that, because you fucking would. 0.99

00:34:15.000 That's why. 0.99

00:34:17.000 They're scared of people who Bernie Sanders presents as being.

00:34:22.000 Turns out Bernie Sanders isn't that guy. 0.99

00:34:24.000 Bernie Sanders is a lapdog to power. 0.98

00:34:26.000 But didn't he just seem to become that as of recently? 0.99

00:34:30.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 Do you think he's just tired?

00:34:33.000 When you go back in time, he stopped talking to Ralph Nader.

00:34:37.000 He stopped talking to Michael Parente.

00:34:41.000 He was for the bombing of Kosovo. 1.00

00:34:43.000 He's always been a little bitch for the military-industrial complex, and it's disgusting. 1.00

00:34:49.000 I got so excited about Bernie Sanders, right? 1.00

00:34:52.000 I've never been more excited about a politician in my life.

00:34:55.000 And I've never been more let down by a politician.

00:34:58.000 They lied about the CARES Act, and he lied about putting...

00:35:01.000 Oh, we had to do it for the unemployment.

00:35:03.000 That was the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history, was the CARES Act.

00:35:08.000 And that's a...

00:35:10.000 And nobody talks about that.

00:35:11.000 Explain the CARES Act to people.

00:35:12.000 So that was right when COVID hit and they passed that $5 trillion bill.

00:35:18.000 $5 trillion.

00:35:19.000 Just out of nowhere.

00:35:20.000 They didn't go tax people for it. 0.99

00:35:22.000 They just fucking printed it. 0.99

00:35:23.000 $5 trillion. 0.99

00:35:24.000 And that was considered the largest upward trend.

00:35:28.000 And there was no money in there to pay people's salaries.

00:35:32.000 Remember?

00:35:33.000 That's what other countries did.

00:35:34.000 What did the $5 trillion go towards? 1.00

00:35:35.000 Went towards the thousand richest motherfuckers in the country, basically. 0.99

00:35:38.000 That's where you got the... 0.97

00:35:40.000 If you had a business, you could apply for some kind of PPE loan and stuff like that.

00:35:45.000 A lot of people scam those loans.

00:35:47.000 A lot of people. 1.00

00:35:48.000 I've seen so many arrests of people who bought Lamborghinis and shit. 0.99

00:35:50.000 You got one of those loans? 1.00

00:35:51.000 I was like, fuck, everybody else is getting one. 1.00

00:35:53.000 I better get one. 1.00

00:35:54.000 Wow.

00:35:56.000 Pay your staff and everything like that?

00:35:58.000 Yeah, I told my wife, I go, we don't know what's going to happen.

00:36:02.000 So I said, hey, apply, see what happens.

00:36:04.000 They gave it to us.

00:36:06.000 I was like, what? 0.98

00:36:08.000 I couldn't fucking believe it. 0.95

00:36:09.000 So you have to pay it back? 0.98

00:36:10.000 Is that what it is?

00:36:11.000 No.

00:36:11.000 It's just free money?

00:36:12.000 No, if you don't lay off anybody, like for a certain amount of time, then you get to keep it.

00:36:17.000 But if you did- What?

00:36:18.000 Yes.

00:36:19.000 You just get free money?

00:36:20.000 Yeah.

00:36:21.000 Whoa.

00:36:22.000 Yes.

00:36:22.000 That's crazy.

00:36:23.000 It was five trillion dollars they gave out, Joe.

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:26.000 And they gave it out probably to companies that didn't lose profit.

00:36:30.000 I bet, yeah.

00:36:31.000 Right?

00:36:32.000 So if they didn't fire companies and they didn't stop operations.

00:36:36.000 I wonder if somebody should look into how much did Amazon get?

00:36:39.000 Did they get money?

00:36:40.000 Did they get that kind of money even though...

00:36:42.000 They're smart.

00:36:43.000 They got paid. 0.68

00:36:45.000 There's a dirty, corrupt system. 0.84

00:36:47.000 They're a part of it. 0.99

00:36:48.000 Let's go.

00:36:48.000 Let's party.

00:36:49.000 I think we can bust this move out.

00:36:51.000 Everybody's sick.

00:36:54.000 But don't you think...

00:36:55.000 It's called the CARES Act.

00:36:56.000 It's called the CARES Act.

00:36:57.000 Like the Patriot Act.

00:36:58.000 Well, aren't you a patriot?

00:36:59.000 And they say, yeah.

00:37:00.000 Aren't you a patriot, Jimmy?

00:37:01.000 You don't care about America?

00:37:02.000 I don't care about America or none.

00:37:04.000 Why do you hate freedom?

00:37:05.000 Yeah, why do you hate freedom?

00:37:06.000 You won't sign the Patriot Act.

00:37:07.000 It's called the Patriot Act.

00:37:09.000 The most Nazi-like thing ever. 0.90

00:37:11.000 The government can now spy on you.

00:37:13.000 That's the Patriot Act 2. Okay.

00:37:14.000 You're thinking of the Patriot Act 2. Okay.

00:37:17.000 Electric Boogaloo?

00:37:18.000 Or the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:37:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:21.000 Those ones.

00:37:22.000 In the 2011 NDAA, Section 1021, Barack Obama got rid of habeas corpus.

00:37:29.000 That's not important.

00:37:30.000 What's really important is that we get these trillionaires all their money for COVID. Got rid of habeas corpus, Joe.

00:37:37.000 So now, I mean, habeas corpus was in the Magna Carta.

00:37:41.000 So now we're operating on a Liberty View from somewhere around the 1100s.

00:37:46.000 And people don't...

00:37:47.000 Democracy's on the ballot. 1.00

00:37:48.000 You fucking... 1.00

00:37:49.000 Democracy hasn't been on the ballot for decades and decades. 1.00

00:37:52.000 You don't live in a democracy.

00:37:54.000 You live in an oligarchy, which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago.

00:37:59.000 And when are you going to get pissed off about that?

00:38:01.000 No, no.

00:38:02.000 Because the TV guy says, no, no, it's Joe Biden's democracy and Trump isn't. 0.99

00:38:06.000 And don't you love all that shit about how, oh, he'll never leave office? 0.99

00:38:10.000 I didn't know that was an option. 0.99

00:38:11.000 I didn't know a president could just decide to not...

00:38:13.000 So every president has left office just because they're good people?

00:38:17.000 Just because they decided to?

00:38:18.000 Oh, he's going to be a dictator.

00:38:19.000 I didn't know a president...

00:38:21.000 I thought we had co-equal branches of government. 1.00

00:38:22.000 How is this all shit? 1.00

00:38:24.000 They just say this shit. 1.00

00:38:25.000 And it's none of it's true. 1.00

00:38:27.000 And they all just make it...

00:38:28.000 He was already president one time.

00:38:29.000 He left office.

00:38:31.000 We already lived through it.

00:38:32.000 Everybody's pretending that if he gets into office, he's going to be the horrible thing that they predicted that didn't take place...

00:38:38.000 When he was in office for four years.

00:38:39.000 What evidence are you basing this on? 0.98

00:38:41.000 The evidence that when he was actually the president, and he was for four fucking years, he did none of those things. 0.94

00:38:49.000 He didn't prosecute his political rivals. 0.96

00:38:50.000 He didn't go after Hillary Clinton.

00:38:52.000 He didn't lock her up. 0.99

00:38:53.000 Even though she's a super criminal. 0.99

00:38:55.000 Remember the FBI, the Comey guy came out and he said, yeah, this is going to sound crazy in a couple of different ways, but yes, we found hundreds of high-level documents, secret classified documents on her server, but we're not going to prosecute her.

00:39:10.000 I know this is going to sound weird.

00:39:12.000 Do you remember that?

00:39:13.000 Yeah, I do.

00:39:14.000 Somebody made a hilarious video out of it.

00:39:16.000 They put it to music.

00:39:17.000 It was weird at the beginning because a lot of people, myself included, saw him firing Comey.

00:39:23.000 I'm like, whoa, you're going to fire the head of the FBI because he doesn't like you?

00:39:25.000 That's crazy. 0.94

00:39:27.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:39:29.000 Comey's a piece of shit. 1.00

00:39:30.000 What I was going to say is because of that happening... 1.00

00:39:35.000 It caused so many people to start going, what has the FBI done?

00:39:38.000 Like, what are they doing?

00:39:39.000 And then you start reading stories, and you start understanding the history of it, and you're like, oh, what?

00:39:46.000 What did they do?

00:39:47.000 What have they been involved in?

00:39:49.000 Good things.

00:39:50.000 A lot of good things.

00:39:52.000 There's a few, but like whenever, with any kind of large organization, there's a lot of competitive people trying to rise to the top, you're going to get unscrupulous fellas.

00:40:00.000 Sociopaths.

00:40:00.000 Right to the top.

00:40:01.000 Yeah, and they're going to do some things.

00:40:03.000 And if they're in high positions of power and they can manipulate everyone around them to go with it, that's what you get.

00:40:09.000 You get in every human situation where people are in control.

00:40:13.000 You know what you get?

00:40:13.000 You get January 6th.

00:40:15.000 That's what you get.

00:40:15.000 You get Russiagate.

00:40:17.000 I know that the FBI lied to the FISA court 17 times so they could get a tap on Donald Trump's phones.

00:40:24.000 That happened.

00:40:25.000 They lied to the FISA court 17 times.

00:40:27.000 Nobody talks about that.

00:40:28.000 Nobody pays a price for that. 1.00

00:40:30.000 They did it to the goddamn... 0.99

00:40:31.000 You know, I'm sure you saw the video of when Chuck Schumer was on with Rachel Maddow, and he says, well, talking about Trump, that he's being really dumb to criticize the intelligence community, meaning the CIA and the FBI, and Rachel Maddow says, 1.00

00:40:47.000 why?

00:40:47.000 And he says, because they've got six ways this Sunday to mess with you back.

00:40:51.000 So what he really was saying there, that that was the leading Democrat in the Senate, the leader of the party, he was telling people into a camera that the president, that the CIA and the FBI doesn't work for the president, that he has to worry about them. 0.99

00:41:06.000 And if they don't work for the president, who the fuck do they work for, Joe? 0.99

00:41:11.000 Right. 0.99

00:41:11.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:41:12.000 And of course, Rachel Maddow never asked that question.

00:41:14.000 She's never gonna do that because, you know, she's a lapdog of the military-industrial complex, Wall Street, Big Pharma, all of them.

00:41:21.000 They're all the same.

00:41:22.000 It's a natural thing that takes place when any organization gets extreme power.

00:41:27.000 And that was supposed to be mitigated, right?

00:41:30.000 And this is like the problem that Kennedy had with secret societies.

00:41:33.000 This is the problem that Kennedy had with the CIA and what Kennedy had with the NSA. Whenever you get people that are above everything, like this concept of the deep state, you put your tinfoil hat on when you just say the word, deep state.

00:41:45.000 Everybody who is not paying attention, people that are just reading mainstream news, you say deep state, they go, oh God, he's a QAnon guy.

00:41:52.000 I've got to get out of here.

00:41:53.000 The deep state's real.

00:41:54.000 100%.

00:41:55.000 It's real.

00:41:55.000 It's the intelligence community.

00:41:57.000 And Chuck Schumer said they don't work for the president.

00:41:59.000 What?

00:42:01.000 They don't.

00:42:02.000 And they don't.

00:42:03.000 They don't.

00:42:03.000 And so, I mean, they would even brag about it when Trump first became president.

00:42:07.000 They would go on, Comey and other people would go on interviews and they would say, you know, Mr. President, we're going to be here a lot.

00:42:13.000 We were here before you, we're going to be here after you.

00:42:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:16.000 So they don't give a shit about the president. 0.99

00:42:17.000 I mean, they're just saying it out loud. 0.99

00:42:19.000 They would say it out loud.

00:42:20.000 And so, yeah, so people are conditioned.

00:42:22.000 But isn't that just what happens when you have competitive human beings locked into these...

00:42:37.000 Just like our country is ending the way all empires end.

00:42:41.000 We overextend ourselves militarily.

00:42:43.000 Which brings me to...

00:42:45.000 What is that you're smoking?

00:42:46.000 It's a cigar.

00:42:48.000 Oh, really?

00:42:48.000 When I don't want a full cigar, I smoke one of these little tiny Monte Cristos.

00:42:52.000 It's a little baby cigar.

00:42:53.000 You want a cigar?

00:42:54.000 I'll smoke a real one with you.

00:42:55.000 No, I did that once, and it made, because I used to smoke cigarettes, and I'm like, oh, everybody started smoking cigars at one time when I first moved to Los Angeles.

00:43:03.000 I was like, oh, I could smoke cigars.

00:43:05.000 These are nice ones, because Ron White turned me onto these.

00:43:08.000 It woke up the beast, and I started smoking cigarettes again.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, no good.

00:43:12.000 So I can't do it.

00:43:13.000 I even quit smoking pot recently, last September.

00:43:16.000 I heard.

00:43:16.000 You did?

00:43:17.000 Yeah, I watched that video.

00:43:18.000 I thought it was really interesting.

00:43:20.000 It makes people sad when I say it on stage. 0.94

00:43:22.000 Oh, that's silly. 0.99

00:43:22.000 That's silly. 0.99

00:43:23.000 People go, oh, it makes them upset. 0.71

00:43:25.000 And I'm like, you know, it really woke me up to a lot of things.

00:43:29.000 I don't know.

00:43:30.000 I don't even...

00:43:30.000 People go, why?

00:43:31.000 Why'd you quit?

00:43:31.000 I don't even know why I quit.

00:43:33.000 Like, I feel like it was...

00:43:35.000 I think it came from a higher power.

00:43:37.000 Yeah, I know you were saying that, too.

00:43:39.000 I'm going to get a cigar.

00:43:41.000 You're going to get a real cigar?

00:43:42.000 A real cigar.

00:43:43.000 Oh, okay.

00:43:44.000 What made you go from the, I want a little one to a big one just now?

00:43:47.000 We're gonna talk about something serious.

00:43:49.000 Oh, okay. 0.97

00:43:51.000 Goddammit, it smells... 0.99

00:43:52.000 Well, the thing that, why I stopped is because it smells so fucking good. 0.97

00:43:55.000 Yeah, but I see what your point is, though. 0.93

00:43:58.000 And I see what you're saying.

00:43:59.000 And there's a thing that can happen with marijuana or with anything that alters your state of consciousness.

00:44:05.000 Including coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, everything.

00:44:09.000 Is you're using that to sort of cope and exist.

00:44:12.000 And you're not really being present.

00:44:15.000 You're always being present under the influence of these things.

00:44:18.000 And I've been guilty of that myself.

00:44:21.000 Sometimes you just want to catch a buzz.

00:44:23.000 Don't want to be here.

00:44:25.000 I just want to have a couple of whiskeys.

00:44:26.000 I don't want to be here.

00:44:27.000 I want to be here, but just be...

00:44:29.000 You know?

00:44:31.000 It's like sometimes the world's overwhelming and I think you miss a lot if you live in that state.

00:44:39.000 You miss a lot.

00:44:39.000 Like, one of the things that happens with people that have drug problems when they're young is they don't really mature properly.

00:44:46.000 Because they spent, you know, 15, 16, 17 doing meth, doing coke, partying.

00:44:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:52.000 And then by the time they get clean and sober, like, they're grown-up babies.

00:44:56.000 Yes.

00:44:56.000 Well, they say that.

00:44:57.000 They say that when your addiction starts, you get locked into that level of maturity that you're at until your addiction ends.

00:45:04.000 Yes, and then you start growing, but now you're growing in a confused state, and you've also got this anxiety that's sometimes crippling because if you wasted a giant chunk of your life and not made any progress, and here you are a beginner at 35 years old, and you're out here in the world trying to get a regular job at 35,

00:45:22.000 and nobody wants to hire you because you've been in 15 rehabilitation centers, and you got locked up for steel and hubcaps, catalytic converters, or whatever.

00:45:31.000 The thing that it does to you is it separates you from normal reality.

00:45:37.000 And that could be a positive or a negative.

00:45:38.000 If you have discipline and control and you're present and you really spend a lot of time thinking alone by yourself and meditating, you can use things to alter your state of consciousness to achieve new thoughts.

00:45:52.000 You tap into new ideas.

00:45:54.000 Pot helped me a lot comedically.

00:45:56.000 It helped me.

00:45:57.000 It's comedy steroids.

00:45:58.000 Yeah, it was a big deal for me.

00:46:01.000 It took me from being, I was a very narrow and rigid comedian, and then it opened me up, and it made me a much better comedian is all I can say, and it worked for a long time.

00:46:13.000 And it didn't, like, take away my discipline.

00:46:16.000 Like, I still had lots of discipline comedically, and then doing my, when I started my podcast in 2008 or 9, and then my radio show, and then, so it never, I was always...

00:46:26.000 You're an OG, 2008 or 9?

00:46:27.000 Yeah.

00:46:28.000 You're up there with me then.

00:46:29.000 We were like at the same time.

00:46:30.000 Yep.

00:46:31.000 I started with Todd Glass.

00:46:33.000 I started a show called Comedy and Everything Else.

00:46:36.000 And we would interview comedians.

00:46:38.000 And then I did like 152 episodes of that.

00:46:42.000 I just got tired of it.

00:46:43.000 And then I started doing the Jimmy Dore show because I got a radio show on KPFK in Los Angeles, which is a public radio show.

00:46:49.000 So it was all politics.

00:46:50.000 And comedy, you know?

00:46:52.000 And so I just shifted over to that.

00:46:56.000 And it was a pretty popular podcast.

00:46:59.000 It still is.

00:47:00.000 I mean, it would get like 50,000 to 60,000 downloads per episode, but it never sold tickets.

00:47:05.000 It's the weirdest thing.

00:47:06.000 But when I went on YouTube, that was immediately I started selling tickets.

00:47:10.000 Immediately.

00:47:11.000 As you know, that changes your whole life.

00:47:14.000 Yeah, the YouTube thing, that's a different world.

00:47:17.000 Everybody has it.

00:47:18.000 It's on every phone.

00:47:20.000 It's on everybody.

00:47:21.000 If you have Apple TV, people...

00:47:23.000 I watch YouTube more than I watch Netflix.

00:47:26.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:47:27.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, because if I watch Netflix, it's like I want to watch Peaky Blinders.

00:47:31.000 I sit down and watch it. 0.85

00:47:32.000 But YouTube's like, let me just fuck around, see what's going on in the world of ancient archaeology. 0.98

00:47:38.000 Let me watch a professional pool match. 0.98

00:47:40.000 Let me see this new muscle car build. 0.92

00:47:42.000 I get lost for hours.

00:47:43.000 If I want to zone out, if I'm exhausted, and I just want to zone out, I've did everything that I have to do, I just want to just chill.

00:47:50.000 YouTube.

00:47:50.000 I go right to YouTube.

00:47:51.000 So, hey, Jimmy Dore, what's he talking about?

00:47:53.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:47:54.000 And then I'm watching you yell at Cornel Westers. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Some other fucking person. 0.99

00:47:59.000 And I'm like, this is amazing. 1.00

00:48:00.000 Jimmy's a mad dog.

00:48:01.000 I love having Kurt on the show because he gets upset.

00:48:05.000 And then I get to be amused by it instead of me getting upset.

00:48:09.000 Yes.

00:48:09.000 Oh, it's a perfect balance.

00:48:10.000 Kurt's sitting there going, everything's a fucking sign-up! 0.99

00:48:13.000 Everything! 1.00

00:48:14.000 Your whole life!

00:48:15.000 Everything in the world, okay?

00:48:16.000 Everything!

00:48:17.000 That's like at the two and a half hour mark of the show.

00:48:21.000 Everything! 0.99

00:48:21.000 Every fucking thing! 0.99

00:48:22.000 Everything! 0.99

00:48:23.000 And I just...

00:48:24.000 It gives me joy.

00:48:25.000 So you were saying, before I interrupted you, that you think that it was a higher calling.

00:48:30.000 That like quitting pot.

00:48:33.000 So I started...

00:48:34.000 And when COVID happened, I started getting into Carl Jung and my unconscious and analyzing my dreams.

00:48:42.000 And then I realized that the...

00:48:46.000 That there is what Carl Jung calls God is a transpersonal self.

00:48:51.000 And he's the one who kind of figured out we have a collective unconscious.

00:48:56.000 So there only is one conscious. 0.96

00:48:58.000 I mean, you've done DMT and all shit, so you get all that. 0.95

00:49:01.000 But he was able to give himself like a mushroom trip when he was conscious without taking mushrooms, right? 0.98

00:49:07.000 And he would call it active imagination.

00:49:10.000 I think?

00:49:34.000 For 50 years after he died.

00:49:36.000 Because he knew if people read it, it would discredit his work in psychology. 1.00

00:49:40.000 Because it sounds crazy, all this shit. 0.99

00:49:42.000 It's like he had mushroom trips and he would write it down, right? 1.00

00:49:46.000 But it was real.

00:49:47.000 And so what he did, so during those four years, he then spent the rest of his life trying to explain to people what he had learned in those four years in ways that they could understand it.

00:50:02.000 And so that's what the rest of his life was about.

00:50:04.000 And I remember they asked him, do you believe in God?

00:50:08.000 He says, I don't believe in God, I know. 0.99

00:50:10.000 And I was like, man, that's badass when you can say shit like that. 0.98

00:50:13.000 And so anyway, I started to get into this. 0.98

00:50:16.000 And so he figured out that we have a collective unconscious because he would see these symbols in his dreams.

00:50:22.000 And he knew that they were meaningful, but he didn't know what they meant.

00:50:26.000 And then he started to study alchemy, which alchemy isn't what you think it is. 0.99

00:50:31.000 Alchemy was about turning a psychological lead into psychological gold, and they were onto a lot of shit. 0.95

00:50:37.000 And they had to keep it secret because of the church, I guess, and so they had to speak in code, kind of. 0.95

00:50:42.000 And so he started to read alchemy, and he started to see these symbols that were in his dreams that they had written about, and they had already figured out what it meant. 0.99

00:50:50.000 And he was like, well, how the fuck... 0.96

00:50:52.000 Could I have a dream about something? 0.99

00:50:54.000 I didn't know any...

00:50:55.000 I never read this book before.

00:50:56.000 I don't know what...

00:50:57.000 And that's how he started to figure that out. 0.99

00:50:59.000 And so that shit has happened to me. 0.97

00:51:01.000 I'll see symbols in my dreams. 0.99

00:51:06.000 This happened.

00:51:07.000 So I was...

00:51:08.000 This is going to sound crazy.

00:51:11.000 So I'm in the jungle, in a clearing, and this creature comes over to me.

00:51:17.000 It looks like a big ape.

00:51:18.000 His body's like a big gorilla, but his head is like half of a lion, half human. 1.00

00:51:24.000 And I'm like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:51:25.000 And he puts his hand out, and I'm like, oh, he's going to crush me. 0.99

00:51:28.000 But I put my hand in his hand, and he took my hand gently, and he walked me into the jungle.

00:51:34.000 And I was like, what the...

00:51:35.000 So, I tell this to my...

00:51:37.000 I have an analyst who...

00:51:38.000 Jungian analyst who helps me decipher what my dreams mean.

00:51:42.000 And he said, you know, that's an archetypal god and that was them telling you it's time for you to go into the jungle of your unconscious, but you'll be safe if you longer... 0.98

00:51:53.000 And I was like, oh, so then a month later I'm reading this book and there's that fucking thing, the ape with the lion. 0.97

00:52:02.000 I'm like, there's a... 0.99

00:52:03.000 I'm like, what?

00:52:04.000 That's the thing!

00:52:04.000 I saw in my dream!

00:52:06.000 Like, how did that show up in my dream before I ever saw it before?

00:52:09.000 So I'm having the exact same...

00:52:11.000 Is there a drawing of this in Jung's book?

00:52:13.000 Or is it just a description in Jung's book?

00:52:15.000 It's called a Mithraic God.

00:52:17.000 That's what I come to know. 0.99

00:52:20.000 I was like, that's the fucking thing that was in my dream. 0.98

00:52:23.000 So there's also another thing called the old man. 0.96

00:52:26.000 So Carl Jung talks about this a lot, like he would meet the old man in his dream, which was like...

00:52:34.000 A transpersonal self for God.

00:52:35.000 Yeah, like that.

00:52:36.000 That's it?

00:52:36.000 Wow.

00:52:40.000 Yeah.

00:52:41.000 So that's an archetypal character.

00:52:43.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:43.000 And I'm like, how the fuck did that... 0.99

00:52:45.000 And you had no idea and that thing showed up in your dream. 0.99

00:52:47.000 I'd never seen it.

00:52:47.000 Yeah.

00:52:48.000 Wow.

00:52:49.000 So that's depicted all throughout history, it looks like.

00:52:51.000 I had no idea.

00:52:53.000 So...

00:52:53.000 How bizarre.

00:52:54.000 I had this big decision to make in my life.

00:52:57.000 And it was...

00:53:00.000 So what Carl Jung says is that your unconscious, your transpersonal self, will create a scenario for you where there's no way out.

00:53:10.000 No matter which way you go, you lose.

00:53:12.000 So I was in one of those.

00:53:14.000 And I had a dream, and I'm standing in line at a Starbucks at an airport, and this guy taps me, and I see a shortcut.

00:53:26.000 So whenever there's a shortcut, I'm going to get, because it's a long line.

00:53:31.000 And so I figured out I can go over here and I can sneak and get in and get my coffee first, you know?

00:53:37.000 And so I'm like doing that.

00:53:39.000 And all of a sudden this taps and it's the old man with the gray hair that Carl Jung had talked about.

00:53:43.000 I didn't know it at the time.

00:53:45.000 And I just thought this and this old man, he didn't say anything to me.

00:53:48.000 It's like he just grabs my hand and he points to the end of the long line. 1.00

00:53:52.000 And I go, fuck you, old man. 1.00

00:53:53.000 Get away from me. 1.00

00:53:54.000 What the fuck do you know? 1.00

00:53:59.000 I eventually did take the long line. 0.99

00:54:03.000 Not in the dream, but in my life.

00:54:06.000 And as soon as I did, every...

00:54:09.000 So Carl Jung has another saying.

00:54:10.000 He says, the biggest problems in your life can never be solved.

00:54:13.000 They can only be outgrown.

00:54:15.000 And so I outgrew that.

00:54:17.000 I was like, oh.

00:54:18.000 So it happened.

00:54:21.000 And so I've had these experiences of...

00:54:23.000 But you didn't finish that thought.

00:54:25.000 What was wrong with the back of the line?

00:54:28.000 What did you realize by going to the back of the line?

00:54:31.000 It's a little personal about the situation in my waking life, but I just knew what I had to do then, right?

00:54:43.000 Once I realized that, oh, the old man, that was my transpersonal self telling me, you got to do this.

00:54:49.000 And so I had an awakening.

00:54:53.000 I outgrew this problem.

00:54:55.000 Because, you know, it was like, you know, my Jungian analyst refers to it as, you know, you're on a crucifix right now, and the only thing you can do is hold, maintain, don't make a decision, don't do one thing or the other, just hold, and then something will appear.

00:55:10.000 And that's what appeared.

00:55:11.000 It was in my dream.

00:55:12.000 It coincided with the synchronicity in me reading a book about what I was supposed to do. 0.99

00:55:17.000 I'm like, holy fuck. 0.99

00:55:18.000 What do you think dreams are? 1.00

00:55:20.000 So, I think it's a mistake to dismiss them.

00:55:23.000 I think dreams are the same consciousness that creates this waking life creates your dream life, right?

00:55:30.000 And they're important.

00:55:31.000 And if the more attention you pay to them, the more you'll get out of them.

00:55:36.000 And the more it'll rise up to meet you.

00:55:38.000 And so I keep a dream journal.

00:55:40.000 I write down every dream I have.

00:55:41.000 And you'll start to see patterns.

00:55:44.000 And it's...

00:55:47.000 I've had...

00:55:48.000 So I was reading this book called The Undiscovered Self by Carl Jung.

00:55:52.000 And it's amazing how it fits what's happening right now today, right?

00:55:56.000 And I tried to get to Bobby Kennedy to read it with me.

00:56:00.000 But he says in there, you know how during COVID... How comedians flipped and all of a sudden you weren't allowed to question.

00:56:08.000 You know, I do that bit about that you quoted before and you're not allowed to question and think for yourself.

00:56:13.000 It used to be called reading.

00:56:14.000 Yeah, it used to be called reading.

00:56:15.000 Don't do your own research.

00:56:16.000 It's just reading.

00:56:17.000 So now they're shaming me for reading, right?

00:56:19.000 So...

00:56:21.000 Carl Jung talks about that you have a need.

00:56:25.000 You have a psychological need to have an experience of the divine and a deity and all that stuff.

00:56:32.000 And if you don't have that, you're going to create it.

00:56:34.000 And so that's how those people...

00:56:36.000 When I'm reading this book, I'm like, oh, that's what they did with COVID. They turned Fauci into a god.

00:56:40.000 They turned science into a religion.

00:56:43.000 Right.

00:56:43.000 You can't question it, right?

00:56:45.000 They're archetypes, right?

00:56:46.000 So they just project it.

00:56:49.000 So Carl Jung's all about projection, that we're projecting all the time, and that's how we get to know ourselves, right?

00:56:54.000 So like when you fall in love with someone, his big one is that you have a feminine side inside of you, and it's called your anima, if you're a guy.

00:57:01.000 And if you're a female, you have a male, and that's called your animus. 0.99

00:57:04.000 And when you fall in love with someone like, oh, you know that thing like, oh my God, I can't live without this person.

00:57:10.000 This is the thing that I've been looking for in my...

00:57:11.000 That's when you project that part of yourself, it's in your unconscious, onto that person.

00:57:17.000 And so that's a real religious experience, because you're rejoining, religion meaning to rejoin, you're joining your conscious self with your unconscious self, and that's why it feels like you're being stimulated from the inside, because you are.

00:57:31.000 And you feel this oneness and this wholeness, and if I lose this person, I'll die.

00:57:36.000 Right.

00:57:36.000 And so that is what most people...

00:57:39.000 That's why guys in their...

00:57:40.000 It happens to guys in their 50s.

00:57:42.000 And that's why a lot of guys leave their wife and they go for... 0.96

00:57:45.000 It's fucking amazing how that happens, right? 0.90

00:57:47.000 So that's all projection. 0.98

00:57:50.000 And then eventually the projection falls off and then people get divorced, right?

00:57:54.000 Yeah.

00:57:55.000 Interesting.

00:57:55.000 So the religious experience is the combining of the two souls.

00:58:00.000 The combining of your conscious self and your unconscious self, right?

00:58:04.000 In someone else.

00:58:05.000 Yeah, and you experience it by projecting it on someone else.

00:58:10.000 And that's the phenomena.

00:58:12.000 And nobody knows it.

00:58:13.000 That's the phenomena of love, of romantic love, of romantic love, right?

00:58:16.000 And there's this whole book.

00:58:19.000 There's this old myth about Tristan and Isolde.

00:58:24.000 And I read this whole book by this Jungian scholar that explains what it's all about.

00:58:28.000 And you have to give up.

00:58:31.000 By the way, I meet my anima in my dreams all the time, and it's unbelievable. 0.98

00:58:35.000 It's fucking unbelievable.

00:58:37.000 So they have different people. 0.98

00:58:38.000 How often do you remember your dreams?

00:58:40.000 Every day.

00:58:41.000 Really?

00:58:41.000 Yeah.

00:58:42.000 And so to the point where if I'm going to have a session with my Jungian analysis, I'll take a nap, and I know I'll have a dream or two, and I'll wake up and we talk about them.

00:58:52.000 I'm a good dreamer, especially when you quit smoking pot.

00:58:54.000 And is that when the dreams started?

00:58:56.000 Or did you have dreams while you were smoking pot?

00:58:58.000 I had dreams while I was smoking pot.

00:59:00.000 But they're just more intense now?

00:59:02.000 Yeah, after you quit smoking pot, your dreams become vivid and intense and over the top almost.

00:59:09.000 Almost too much, you know?

00:59:10.000 But now it's gone back to a normal level.

00:59:13.000 So let me ask you this again.

00:59:13.000 What do you think dreams are?

00:59:16.000 I think dreams are spiritual, whatever is in your spirit, whatever is, it's God, for lack of a better term, trying to communicate with you and talk to you through symbols.

00:59:29.000 Wow.

00:59:30.000 Mm-hmm.

00:59:31.000 That's what I think.

00:59:33.000 I mean, I'm not an expert on this stuff.

00:59:35.000 I've just been into it for like the last four years.

00:59:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:59:37.000 And I just know my experience.

00:59:40.000 It is very strange how vivid they are.

00:59:46.000 You are going to create it. 0.95

00:59:47.000 And that's what people did during COVID with science and Fauci and all that shit. 0.93

00:59:52.000 They projected it onto that. 0.51

00:59:55.000 And luckily enough, I've been having experiences of the divine through my dreams and my dream analysis And then I also see it when you see synchronicities.

01:00:06.000 Carl Jung talked about synchronicities, which are coincidences that have meaning.

01:00:11.000 They're not just coincidences, right?

01:00:14.000 And once you start to look for them, it's like when you buy a new car, you see that car everywhere.

01:00:21.000 It's like once you start to look for synchronicities, they start to happen.

01:00:25.000 So then it's like I'm constantly in communication with God.

01:00:31.000 For lack of a better word, that's how I feel about it, right?

01:00:34.000 And so everything that happens in my dreams and in my waking life comes from the same consciousness.

01:00:39.000 Carl Jung said that the future is set up by your unconscious long in advance, which is why it can be guessed at by clairvoyance.

01:00:49.000 So anyway, so this book, the Red Book, that he wrote down his experiences for those four years where he could give himself like a mushroom trip, it finally got published in 2010. And I'm not even able to read it.

01:01:01.000 Like, I just look at it and it's just like super confusing and it looks like crazy talk.

01:01:05.000 So what I do is I read books that he wrote up after he had that experience. 0.96

01:01:13.000 And I read books by other Jungian scholars explaining shit because it's... 0.99

01:01:17.000 He's dense, man. 0.98

01:01:18.000 He puts a lot of info in a little bit.

01:01:20.000 Like, it took me a week just to... 0.99

01:01:22.000 I was reading a book called The Mysterium Canuncho that he wrote, and it took me like a week, just the opening paragraph, just to keep going, like, what the fuck? 0.98

01:01:31.000 Yeah, I tried reading his book on flying saucers. 0.97

01:01:35.000 Oh really?

01:01:35.000 Yeah.

01:01:36.000 What is Carl Jung's book on flying saucers called?

01:01:38.000 But he had this concept about flying saucers.

01:01:41.000 He thinks they're constructs of the mind, but not necessarily that they're not real.

01:01:47.000 It's a very strange...

01:01:50.000 Flying saucers.

01:01:51.000 No, it's a modern myth.

01:01:53.000 If you go to the back, go back to a modern myth of things seen in the sky.

01:01:58.000 Oh, really?

01:01:59.000 Yeah.

01:01:59.000 I haven't heard about this book.

01:02:00.000 See if you can find just a synopsis.

01:02:03.000 Just write, what did Carl Jung believe about UFOs?

01:02:06.000 See, does it say here?

01:02:09.000 Okay, let's just say, in the late 50s, the height of the popular fascination with UFOs, flying saucers, is the great psychologist's brilliant, prescient meditation on the phenomenon that gripped the world.

01:02:19.000 A self-confessed skeptic in such matters, Jung was nevertheless intrigued, not so much by their reality or unreality, but by their psychic aspect.

01:02:28.000 He saw flying saucers as a modern myth in the making to be passed down the generations just as we have received such myths from our ancestors.

01:02:36.000 In this wonderful and enlightening book, Jung sees UFOs as visionary rumors, the center of a quasi-religious cult, and carriers of our technological and salvationist fantasies.

01:02:48.000 Forty years later, with entire religions based on the writings of science fiction authors, it is remarkable to see just how right he has proved to be.

01:02:57.000 Wow.

01:02:58.000 I'll have to read that book.

01:02:59.000 I think the best book to start with Carl Jung is Memories, Dreams, Reflections, which is his biography that he wrote.

01:03:11.000 Because he was more than a psychologist.

01:03:15.000 He was a mystic.

01:03:16.000 Right.

01:03:17.000 And it's made all the difference in my life.

01:03:22.000 I considered myself a Sam Harris atheist, I used to call myself.

01:03:26.000 And that was mostly a reaction to me being brought up Catholic.

01:03:30.000 And so I was rejecting religion, but at the same time I was also rejecting spirituality.

01:03:37.000 And I didn't realize it, but now because of this experience I realize, oh no, it's just terminology.

01:03:44.000 God is real.

01:03:47.000 Your ego doesn't control things.

01:03:50.000 Once you can make your ego subservient to the transpersonal self and your unconscious, that's the key to life, realizing that you're just...

01:04:00.000 The way I describe it to people is that we're all part of consciousness.

01:04:05.000 Consciousness is an ocean, and then there's a huge wave.

01:04:08.000 The part of the consciousness we see is the wave, right?

01:04:12.000 And all I can do is surf that wave.

01:04:15.000 I can't create that wave.

01:04:17.000 I can't control it.

01:04:18.000 All I can do is try to surf it as best I can.

01:04:21.000 And by making your ego subservient and keeping your eye on the transpersonal center, which is what Carl Jung talks about, that's kind of the key.

01:04:34.000 Unless you experience it, it's hard to understand.

01:04:36.000 It's even hard for me to explain it.

01:04:39.000 Yeah, but it does make sense.

01:04:40.000 It's like trying to explain a DMT trip, I'm guessing.

01:04:42.000 I've never done DMT. It does make sense that a person like that, that is trying to understand how the human mind works, would have to take into account all sorts of bizarre things like UFO sightings, psychic experiences, dream states,

01:04:59.000 endogenous psychedelic experiences.

01:05:01.000 There's a bunch of different ways you can...

01:05:04.000 Reliably achieve psychedelic states without any drugs.

01:05:07.000 One of them that I've done recently, even, is holotropic breathing.

01:05:11.000 And if you do holotropic breathing, you have what's almost like a mushroom trip.

01:05:16.000 What is that?

01:05:17.000 Google holotropic breathing so you can get, I don't butcher the definition of it, but also a lot of people do breathing exercises in sensory deprivation tanks, which provides very vivid psychedelic experiences with no drugs at all.

01:05:33.000 I did my first breathing exercise ever this morning.

01:05:37.000 This is just talking about the study of it.

01:05:41.000 There's a way to do...

01:05:43.000 Maybe I said the wrong word.

01:05:46.000 So, breathing to induce psychedelic states.

01:05:49.000 Just write breathing to induce psychedelic states.

01:05:53.000 I might have used the wrong word.

01:06:01.000 All right, here we go.

01:06:03.000 Breathing their way to an altered state.

01:06:04.000 Oh, excellent.

01:06:05.000 Look at it.

01:06:06.000 It's right there in fastballs.

01:06:07.000 New York Times, January 10th, so you know it's a lie.

01:06:12.000 Okay, what does it say here?

01:06:14.000 So do they call it holotropic breathing, or am I using the wrong terminology?

01:06:19.000 No.

01:06:20.000 Okay, there it is.

01:06:21.000 Vigorous modality known as holotropic breathwork is offered at the end of an eight month training, eight months before they get you the holotropic breathing, to provide a lawful taste of the therapeutic potential and pitfalls of altered states of consciousness.

01:06:34.000 So Dr. J.J. Purcell, a naturopathic doctor from Oregon, was amongst the trainees who walked into the early October session skeptical that a couple hours of intense breathing could induce anything close to a psychedelic trip, but she was stunned.

01:06:49.000 The depth of what I experienced was so similar to psilocybin, Dr. Purcell marveled, referring to the psychoactive compound in magic mushrooms.

01:06:57.000 It was trippy.

01:06:58.000 So you did that?

01:06:59.000 Yeah, I've done that a bunch of times.

01:07:01.000 And does it work?

01:07:01.000 Yeah, it definitely works.

01:07:03.000 Especially works in a tank or when you're lying in bed, when you're quiet.

01:07:07.000 So you just did a certain kind of breathing for hours?

01:07:10.000 Google, like, what is the protocol for holotropic breathing?

01:07:15.000 There's just like a specific way you're supposed to do it.

01:07:19.000 But I can achieve some reasonable form of a psychedelic state by just concentrating on breath.

01:07:26.000 I have this thing that I do, and I do it when I can't sleep.

01:07:30.000 My mind is racing, right?

01:07:32.000 So I force my mind to concentrate on one thing, and that's in with the good, out with the bad.

01:07:40.000 Those are the only words I allow in my head.

01:07:43.000 So as I breathe in, I go, and I lose track.

01:07:45.000 I start thinking about, oh, I forgot to call that guy back.

01:07:48.000 I start thinking, but then I get back to it.

01:07:50.000 In with the good, out with the bad.

01:07:52.000 In with the good, out with the bad.

01:07:54.000 And long breaths, I... When I'm doing that, I'm only allowing those words in my head.

01:08:08.000 The other ones are getting in there, but I'm pushing them out.

01:08:10.000 Get out of the door! 1.00

01:08:10.000 I'm the bouncer. 1.00

01:08:12.000 And then eventually I can achieve this very strange state.

01:08:16.000 This very strange state that with your eyes closed, you start seeing patterns.

01:08:21.000 You see this like weird sort of like matrix, like for lack of a better term, almost like a geometric grid of the world.

01:08:31.000 And usually I fall asleep when I'm doing that.

01:08:34.000 But I can stay awake.

01:08:36.000 It takes a while.

01:08:37.000 It might take 15-20 minutes of doing that.

01:08:39.000 But you get in there.

01:08:41.000 And I know that people that do Kundalini Yoga.

01:08:44.000 I have a friend who did Kundalini Yoga and he has also done DMT. He said, it is the exact same place.

01:08:50.000 You can absolutely get there.

01:08:52.000 You just have to be rigorous.

01:08:53.000 You have to practice it for a long time.

01:08:55.000 But they have a specific type of nodding and bobbing they do with intense breath work.

01:09:00.000 That gets you to this endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals.

01:09:04.000 So one of the reasons why it's so insane that that sweeping 1970s psychedelic drug act took place Is not just that they used it to target civil rights leaders and anti-war movement people and the Black Panthers and anybody that was inconvenient,

01:09:20.000 but also that it stopped us from being able to explore what these things are.

01:09:25.000 So one of the terms that psychedelics use, that people, when they talk about psychedelics, it's one of the more lofty terms, is entheogen.

01:09:32.000 And what entheogen means, essentially, it's like this is something that connects you to God.

01:09:38.000 Like, what is the term entheogen?

01:09:41.000 What is the actual – what's the literal translation of entheogen?

01:09:45.000 But that this is what they think – here it is – a chemical substance, typically a plant origins, that is ingested to produce a non-ordinary state of consciousness for religious or spiritual purposes.

01:09:59.000 I think that's what most religions are based on.

01:10:03.000 I think they're based on either an understanding of how to achieve psychedelic states endogenously or people coming into contact with psilocybin, Amanita Muscaria.

01:10:15.000 There's a variety of different things that they probably came in contact with.

01:10:19.000 There's scholars out of Jerusalem now that believe that The interpretation from Moses in the burning bush, that that burning bush was probably the acacia tree, and the acacia tree is rich in DMT. Now, it just completely makes sense that burning a bush that is rich in DMT would connect Moses to God,

01:10:40.000 and God would give Moses these commandments for how mankind should live.

01:10:45.000 That completely makes sense.

01:10:47.000 Well, it's probably a psychedelic experience, and there's probably a bunch of different ways to get them.

01:10:52.000 I think that's what monks are doing when they're spending the entire day isolated and meditating.

01:10:59.000 I think that's why they're willing to keep doing it.

01:11:03.000 I think that's why they're willing to stay. 1.00

01:11:04.000 Everybody's like, oh, those poor bastards. 1.00

01:11:05.000 Look at them. 1.00

01:11:06.000 No pussy. 1.00

01:11:07.000 Dressed like a retard. 1.00

01:11:08.000 Like, look at them. 1.00

01:11:09.000 This stupid fucking orange robe. 1.00

01:11:10.000 But those people, I think, are connecting to something. 1.00

01:11:14.000 Some other state that is more exciting than this one that we're kind of trapped in.

01:11:19.000 Well, I've had the experience of...

01:11:22.000 I've only done mild doses of mushrooms in my life, maybe five or six times.

01:11:27.000 And the last time I did it, I remember when I would close my eyes, it would seem more real than when I opened my eyes.

01:11:35.000 It was like, oh, everything seemed flat and uninteresting.

01:11:38.000 And when I closed my eyes, I was like, this is the real thing.

01:11:41.000 I'd like to stay here longer.

01:11:43.000 So it's got to be what you said.

01:11:46.000 That's why people are willing to sit in a cave and meditate every day because it's more real.

01:11:51.000 It's a more like a rich experience.

01:11:54.000 I think we operate under the biological dimension.

01:11:57.000 That's where our thing moves around, under the biological dimension.

01:12:02.000 And all of our senses are tuned into the biological dimension because it involves injury and death and illness and crime and injustice and all these different things that can get you all ramped up in the biological dimension.

01:12:15.000 But we're also connected to something else.

01:12:18.000 And you can define that thing.

01:12:19.000 You can call it things.

01:12:20.000 You can call it heaven, the well of souls.

01:12:22.000 You can call it a bunch of different things. 0.98

01:12:25.000 I think calling it anything is a problem because we don't know what the fuck it is. 0.98

01:12:29.000 But whatever it is, I think there's a bunch of different ones and Terence McKenna described it as a mandala. 0.90

01:12:35.000 Like that there's like a mandala of different psychedelic experiences that the human body and the human mind is capable of experiencing.

01:12:43.000 And that there's all sorts of different ones.

01:12:46.000 You're going to a different neighborhood.

01:12:48.000 And that these chemical gateways that get you into these states, that's what these psychedelic drugs are.

01:12:55.000 We're looking at it like, oh, he's just escaping reality.

01:12:59.000 I think they're chemical gateways.

01:13:00.000 I think they're chemical gateways into other dimensions, into some other realm that you cannot get there with this thing that's worried about, oh, I'm getting a belly.

01:13:11.000 It's because of your ego.

01:13:13.000 Yeah, ego.

01:13:14.000 And just the reality of having to pay your bills and keep the lights on. 0.99

01:13:17.000 There's just too much weird shit here that distracts you. 0.98

01:13:20.000 Joe Biden's fine. 0.99

01:13:21.000 He's the best version of Joe Biden ever seen.

01:13:23.000 You're driving to work going, I'm in the upside down world. 0.99

01:13:26.000 This is like fucking Stranger Things. 0.99

01:13:27.000 What is happening here? 1.00

01:13:28.000 This is crazy! 1.00

01:13:29.000 You're losing your fucking mind. 1.00

01:13:30.000 And that all this does, all this chaos, this is like if the devil and God were real. 1.00

01:13:37.000 This is the chaos.

01:13:38.000 This is hell.

01:13:39.000 The hell is this confusion and this constant lack of peace.

01:13:46.000 Everyone's filled with anxiety.

01:13:48.000 Well, Jesus said, there's a quote, that the kingdom of my father is laid upon the earth, but the eyes of men don't see it.

01:13:57.000 So, yeah, so we're creating our own hell, right?

01:14:01.000 And it's, I think, over-identification with the ego mind, you know, which is different than, you know, you got a big ego.

01:14:08.000 That's different.

01:14:10.000 The ego mind is like what you're conscious of, your idea of who you are.

01:14:15.000 And then the things that you don't like, according to Jung, you split them off and you put them into your unconscious.

01:14:20.000 So when people who hate...

01:14:22.000 Trump, like when you see people who have Trump derangement syndrome, that's because they're projecting that part of themselves that is like Trump onto him.

01:14:30.000 And so then they can hate that.

01:14:32.000 And that when you have a big reaction to something external, whether it's you love something intensely or you hate something intensely, that tells you it's about you.

01:14:42.000 I never hated Trump.

01:14:44.000 I hated the system that got us Trump.

01:14:46.000 I tried to keep my focus on... 0.96

01:14:48.000 It was because Barack Obama bailed out the banks and kicked 5.1 million families out of their homes and then went on to give us a right-wing fucking healthcare plan that was a giveaway to Big Pharma and insurance company and he didn't really help. 0.94

01:15:00.000 That's what laid the groundwork for people to go for someone like Trump. 0.91

01:15:05.000 That always does.

01:15:06.000 So when people hate...

01:15:09.000 The people who hate Trump the most...

01:15:11.000 We're good to go.

01:15:32.000 And then they just tell these fantasies about him.

01:15:35.000 He's never going to leave.

01:15:35.000 Oh, Robert De Niro.

01:15:37.000 Yeah.

01:15:38.000 Now, Kurt's convinced that Robert De Niro's on some kind of Epstein list or some kind of thing like that, and then he's afraid that if Trump does get power, he's going to expose him, and he is actually going to come at him.

01:15:48.000 Of course Kurt thinks that. 0.97

01:15:50.000 Kurt thinks that about every fucking thing that happens in the world. 0.99

01:15:53.000 I think Robert Cennaro's just got Trump derangement syndrome. 0.99

01:15:57.000 I think he's old, too.

01:15:58.000 There's a thing about old men. 0.95

01:16:00.000 They want to yell at everybody.

01:16:02.000 And he's completely...

01:16:03.000 Did you see when he went and gave that speech outside of the...

01:16:06.000 That was bizarre.

01:16:07.000 Who told him that was a good idea?

01:16:08.000 And then he starts yelling at regular people. 1.00

01:16:11.000 He's like, fuck you, you're a gangster. 1.00

01:16:13.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:16:14.000 It's crazy that that's the guy from Taxi Driver. 1.00

01:16:17.000 Yeah.

01:16:18.000 You know what also I think?

01:16:20.000 I think those guys have no friends.

01:16:22.000 I think the only friends they have are Hollywood phonies.

01:16:24.000 And so you're in this weird world where everybody you talk to is a phony, and you become a phony, and everyone's a phony, and your grasp on reality is very slippery, and your eyes are going, right?

01:16:33.000 So your vision of the world, your actual vision of the world, your ability to read a phone.

01:16:38.000 You ever see old people's text messages? 0.99

01:16:40.000 The fucking text on their phone is like as big as my hand? 0.99

01:16:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:43.000 It's crazy.

01:16:43.000 And so your vision of the world is blurring, literally and figuratively, and then you're getting old, and when old people are tired and cranky, They just want everyone to listen to them and they don't have time to have a calm conversation and you state out your opinion.

01:16:56.000 I'll state my opinion.

01:16:57.000 Let's see where we have common ground.

01:16:59.000 Get off my lawn!

01:17:01.000 And that's what he's doing.

01:17:02.000 That's what he's doing.

01:17:03.000 He's being this old grumpy man that is so lost that he thinks it's a good idea to stand in front of a bunch of people on the street and give a speech on camera about how bad Donald Trump is. 1.00

01:17:16.000 With all the shit that's going in the world. 1.00

01:17:17.000 I know. 1.00

01:17:18.000 All the craziness of the world.

01:17:20.000 Right now, the guy you're voting for, a lot of people consider, is funding a genocide.

01:17:24.000 Right?

01:17:25.000 So, you don't think that's horrible?

01:17:27.000 Again, if he knew what was happening in Ukraine, more people being slaughtered in Ukraine, for what?

01:17:32.000 And we just signed another 10 years of that.

01:17:36.000 Yeah.

01:17:36.000 Signed on for another 10 years.

01:17:38.000 Worth, what, $800 billion?

01:17:40.000 So this is all a money funneling operation.

01:17:45.000 That's what Afghanistan was, and as Julian Assange taught us, that these wars aren't meant to be won, they're meant to be ongoing.

01:17:52.000 Because they had a peace agreement, you know that.

01:17:54.000 They had a peace agreement almost immediately after the invasion, Russia invaded.

01:17:58.000 They had a peace agreement.

01:18:00.000 Ukraine agreed to it.

01:18:01.000 Zelensky agreed to it. 1.00

01:18:02.000 And they flew Boris Johnson out there and said, don't fuck, you can't do this or we're going to kill you. 0.99

01:18:06.000 And so that's why he can't do it. 1.00

01:18:07.000 And so that's why this war is ongoing and they have to rip people off corners and put them in vans to go fight in this fucking war. 0.98

01:18:14.000 The average age of the Ukraine military is over 40 years old. 0.98

01:18:17.000 Have you seen the videos of guys getting kidnapped?

01:18:19.000 Yes!

01:18:19.000 I can't even watch it.

01:18:21.000 Guys with their families.

01:18:22.000 They just grab a guy.

01:18:23.000 They just grab him.

01:18:24.000 Grab him and people are screaming and they're throwing him in a van.

01:18:27.000 You're gonna go fight in a war.

01:18:28.000 I think you lost the war.

01:18:30.000 So they did.

01:18:31.000 And then, of course, nobody knows how this war started.

01:18:33.000 You've had Dave Smith on.

01:18:34.000 He explained it.

01:18:35.000 Nobody still to this day knows about the Maidan coup, that the United States got in bed with right-wing Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow democratically elected government.

01:18:43.000 And then they started bombing the people in the east of Ukraine, called the Donbass, and they wouldn't stop. 0.84

01:18:49.000 They had two peace agreements called the Minsk Accords.

01:18:51.000 Guess who violated them?

01:18:53.000 Ukraine.

01:18:54.000 And so, you know, I've heard people say that.

01:18:58.000 And then, of course, it was the expansion of NATO, right?

01:19:00.000 The threat of putting NATO on the border of Russia, which everybody from Kissinger to Chomsky and everybody in between said, that's a mistake.

01:19:07.000 Don't do that.

01:19:07.000 That's, of course, what they're doing.

01:19:09.000 And so what's the point of NATO anymore?

01:19:11.000 And then this whole idea, they're doing the domino theory again.

01:19:13.000 Oh, well, if we allow him to do this to Ukraine, he's going to go to Poland next. 1.00

01:19:17.000 It's the same fucking shit they said all the time. 1.00

01:19:20.000 It's the domino theory. 1.00

01:19:21.000 And again, the world's terrorists are the United States.

01:19:25.000 Look what we did to Iraq. 0.99

01:19:26.000 Look what we did to Libya. 0.99

01:19:27.000 Libya, the most successful country in all of Africa.

01:19:30.000 The guy created the eighth wonder of the world with the way how he delivered water and turned deserts into farmland.

01:19:36.000 And everybody had a house and everybody had education and healthcare.

01:19:39.000 And we turned it into a failed state run by terrorists with open slave markets. 0.95

01:19:44.000 Who did that? 0.91

01:19:45.000 Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did that. 0.84

01:19:47.000 And they'll never have to pay a price for that.

01:19:48.000 Barack Obama, the most they'll do is go, that was a mistake.

01:19:51.000 Why did they get rid of Qaddafi?

01:19:53.000 Because he was going to start a currency of Africa that was going to compete with the US dollar and the euro, and they can't have that.

01:20:03.000 Because the way the United States controls the world is because the United States dollar is the reserve currency of the world.

01:20:09.000 So that's why they can put sanctions on all these countries.

01:20:11.000 And so what they're doing, which they shouldn't do, they're weaponizing the US dollar.

01:20:16.000 So like when countries want to trade with each other, they have to go take their currency, change it into U.S. dollars so they can trade.

01:20:22.000 And a lot of it was based on the petrodollar, which by the way, Saudi Arabia just quit.

01:20:26.000 They didn't renew it.

01:20:27.000 I don't know if you heard about that.

01:20:28.000 Yeah, I did hear about that.

01:20:29.000 And all of a sudden, CBS News is starting to do news stories about how Saudi Arabia was involved in 9-11.

01:20:35.000 All of a sudden!

01:20:36.000 24 years later, all of a sudden, oh, you know what?

01:20:39.000 Turns out... 0.98

01:20:39.000 And they're like, you mean two weeks after they decided to not renew the fucking petrol dollar? 0.98

01:20:45.000 Now CBS News is allowed to talk about that and investigate it, which when I talked about it, got demonetized. 0.93

01:20:51.000 But anyway...

01:20:54.000 So that's why, because Gaddafi was doing that. 0.85

01:20:58.000 He was going to set up a currency for all of Africa, and it was going to have a gold standard.

01:21:04.000 And so they're like, no, you're not. 0.98

01:21:06.000 You're not fucking doing that. 0.99

01:21:07.000 And they made up a bullshit thing like, we got to save the people. 1.00

01:21:12.000 They don't give a fuck about the people in America. 1.00

01:21:15.000 They've got veterans and everybody else living under every goddamn bridge in this country. 0.99

01:21:19.000 If they gave a shit about those people, don't you think they'd start helping the people right outside the front door? 0.99

01:21:25.000 Instead of, no, we've got to go help people in Libya, and we've got to help people. 0.99

01:21:28.000 It's about helping people in Ukraine, and it's about helping people in Taiwan.

01:21:32.000 No, this is all about an upward transfer of money.

01:21:34.000 This is about balkanizing countries and turning it over to BlackRock and Vanguard.

01:21:39.000 That's what this is about.

01:21:41.000 Yeah.

01:21:42.000 And we'll be right back.

01:21:43.000 That's a good rant.

01:21:44.000 That's a solid rant.

01:21:46.000 Biden is sending $61 billion to Ukraine.

01:21:49.000 Much of it will pass through the U.S. economy first.

01:21:52.000 You mean in weapons manufacturing and things like that?

01:21:54.000 By the way, there's no oversight.

01:21:55.000 Isn't it better to just say the U.S. economy?

01:21:57.000 Why do you have to look at the bad side of things?

01:22:00.000 But this is how they sell it to us.

01:22:03.000 Like, no, no, we're actually investing in our own country. 0.99

01:22:05.000 If you want to invest in our own country, why wouldn't you build fucking bullet trains? 0.99

01:22:08.000 Why wouldn't you do that? 0.99

01:22:09.000 Why wouldn't you build affordable housing for people? 0.96

01:22:12.000 Because people can't afford... 0.99

01:22:13.000 Now, you know, the new generation can't afford fucking houses. 0.99

01:22:16.000 Why wouldn't you do things for people? 0.99

01:22:18.000 Why wouldn't you give people health care that doesn't bankrupt them or an education that doesn't bankrupt them?

01:22:23.000 We're ending...

01:22:24.000 Excuse me, I don't think you've read that our military aid to Ukraine is revitalizing manufacturing communities across the In the United States.

01:22:30.000 The most inefficient way to stimulate economy is military spending.

01:22:35.000 Now, I've known that for a long time.

01:22:38.000 It's the lowest return on your dollar.

01:22:40.000 It is a crazy spin.

01:22:41.000 Because, yes, that's how they're doing it.

01:22:44.000 Now, that's how they're doing it.

01:22:45.000 Well, you saw Lindsey Graham.

01:22:47.000 I don't know if you saw this.

01:22:47.000 He said that there's $15 trillion in natural...

01:22:52.000 And rare earth minerals in Ukraine.

01:22:55.000 And if we don't get it, China's going to get it and Russia's going to get it. 0.93

01:22:58.000 So now, three years into this war, you're telling me it's about, why can't we just do regular economic shit and try to out-compete people? 0.96

01:23:07.000 Because that's all this is. 0.95

01:23:08.000 These are economic wars that they turn into.

01:23:11.000 Well, Fred Hampton said that politics is war without violence.

01:23:15.000 War is politics with violence.

01:23:18.000 Yeah.

01:23:18.000 And so that's what these wars are.

01:23:20.000 None of them are real.

01:23:21.000 They're not what you think they're for.

01:23:23.000 It's all made up.

01:23:25.000 And we keep falling.

01:23:27.000 I can't believe people still fall for the Ukraine war.

01:23:30.000 Well, they went into that so quick.

01:23:32.000 They got rid of the...

01:23:33.000 Well, Russiagate set it up.

01:23:34.000 And when I was at the Young Turks, I would tell those people, those knuckleheads at the Young Turks, when they were Russiagating, I'd go, you know they're going to use this for a war.

01:23:42.000 And that's exactly what, they knew they were doing that.

01:23:45.000 They knew that they were getting people mentally ready for a war with Russia.

01:23:50.000 And right now it's a proxy war with Russia.

01:23:53.000 That's what this is.

01:23:54.000 And of course they did it.

01:23:56.000 And of course if you say something, they call you a Putin puppet. 0.56

01:23:59.000 Just like you were an Assad toady. 0.98

01:24:01.000 If you said something, the truth about Syria, like Tulsi Gabbard was saying.

01:24:06.000 Or if you said the truth, remember, I mean, if you said there weren't weapons of mass destruction, you were called a traitor. 0.99

01:24:11.000 It's the fucking never ends. 0.99

01:24:12.000 It's the same playbook and people fall for it every time. 0.99

01:24:15.000 And it's because we are the most propagandized country ever.

01:24:18.000 In the world!

01:24:19.000 You think China is?

01:24:21.000 You know, when people in China watch the news, they know it's propaganda.

01:24:23.000 In the old Soviet Union, people knew that was propaganda.

01:24:26.000 The difference between that and now is people in America, they think they're watching the news when they turn on Fox, CNN, MSNBC. And isn't it weird?

01:24:34.000 It never clicks to anybody that when Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity are telling you the same thing about Ukraine, my spidey sense is like, oh, this is fucking bullshit. 1.00

01:24:45.000 Yes, it is! 1.00

01:24:46.000 Yes, when they're telling you the same thing about COVID or vaccines or lockdown, doesn't your spidey senses go out that this has got to be bullshit? 0.98

01:24:55.000 So they all agree, again, just like the Republicans and Democrats, they all agree on the worst of things, right? 0.99

01:24:59.000 They all agree on war.

01:25:01.000 They all agree on screwing workers. 1.00

01:25:02.000 They all agree on keeping us having the most expensive healthcare in the world.

01:25:05.000 They all agree on not doing anything to fix homelessness and not investing in our own infrastructure.

01:25:11.000 So they agree on all the worst things.

01:25:13.000 It's like...

01:25:14.000 It's like having two divorced parents, but they both agree on sending you to military school.

01:25:23.000 Yeah, it's a conundrum, for sure. 0.99

01:25:26.000 But don't you think that more people are aware that it's bullshit than ever before? 0.98

01:25:29.000 I hope so. 0.99

01:25:30.000 I think COVID woke up a lot of people.

01:25:32.000 I think it did, too.

01:25:33.000 And I think shows like yours and these shows that are online now that aren't beholden to a corporation, that are independent shows, that can actually connect the dots with knowledgeable people that actually understand the history behind everything.

01:25:46.000 It's just a different world now.

01:25:48.000 You know, even with YouTube, Joe, it's amazing how many people towed the company line.

01:25:53.000 They towed the company around Ukraine war.

01:25:55.000 They towed the establishment line around COVID and vaccines and shamed anybody.

01:25:59.000 It was just amazing. 0.99

01:26:01.000 I'm like, what the fuck is going on? 0.97

01:26:02.000 So there's only maybe a couple of places that you can get reliable news, even in independent news, right? 0.98

01:26:10.000 Yeah.

01:26:11.000 The gray zone had to debunk.

01:26:12.000 They debunk everything.

01:26:15.000 The gray zone?

01:26:16.000 Yeah, Max Blumenthal and Aaron Maté.

01:26:19.000 Okay.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, and they helped debunk Russiagate, they helped debunk the Syria gas attacks.

01:26:26.000 Aaron Maté did extensive work on that.

01:26:29.000 I was first. 0.85

01:26:30.000 But, you know, I'm a dumb guy, I have to take credit where I can, you know? 0.58

01:26:36.000 How did you debunk that? 0.96

01:26:37.000 I knew because Robert Fisk had done reporting on the ground.

01:26:40.000 He was one of the most decorated war reporters in Europe.

01:26:43.000 And it didn't make any sense on its face that Assad, who was winning the war at the time, would do the one thing Barack Obama said if he crossed that red line and used chemical weapons.

01:26:54.000 He would then go do it.

01:26:55.000 And they only killed like 50 people at a time with a chemical weapon. 0.99

01:26:58.000 So why the fuck would he do that? 0.99

01:26:59.000 Of course that was a false flag done by... 0.99

01:27:01.000 And then the OPCW... So the OPCW, which is the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, right.

01:27:09.000 And so they used to be considered, you know, nonpartisan and non-captured.

01:27:15.000 And they would go in and they would, if there was a chemical weapon used, they would go in and they would do a report.

01:27:19.000 Well, of course, they got captured, right, by NATO in the billionaire class.

01:27:24.000 And so they go in, they do their report, and they're like, oh yeah, it was Assad, he did it. 0.90

01:27:27.000 But then the whistleblowers came out and said, no, that's not what happened.

01:27:32.000 They suppressed the engineer's report, they suppressed this report.

01:27:35.000 These canisters were laid there.

01:27:37.000 This wasn't dropped from a helicopter. 1.00

01:27:39.000 So it was all bullshit, right? 0.99

01:27:41.000 So, of course, Assad didn't do that, right? 0.99

01:27:44.000 And so I was on to that first, and then Aaron Maté came back, and he did meticulous reporting on it.

01:27:52.000 He's written at least 10 articles on it, which nobody will ever debunk.

01:27:56.000 Nobody, because they can't, right?

01:27:58.000 And he...

01:28:00.000 So, anyway, so...

01:28:02.000 And Russiagate, I knew immediately Russiagate was bullshit, because I brought on Bill Binney, who was the number, NSA's number one code breaker for decades and decades, and he came on and he explained to me that they didn't hack into that DNC server that was downloaded locally,

01:28:18.000 right? 0.98

01:28:18.000 And now we know that, how much shit, they wrote a smear piece about me in the Washington Post, because I was asking logical questions about what happened with Seth Rich. 0.98

01:28:29.000 Hey, where was he from the time he left the bar to the time he got home? 0.99

01:28:32.000 You're not allowed to ask ethical questions about a guy that WikiLeaks said leaked them information that DNC was conspiring to keep Bernie Sanders out of the primary.

01:28:41.000 You're not allowed to.

01:28:42.000 I remember Jeff Bezos hired a guy at the Washington Post to smear me over that, right?

01:28:50.000 And they did.

01:28:51.000 I don't know if Jeff personally was involved.

01:28:54.000 Don't you think Jeff's busy?

01:28:56.000 I mean, it was his paper, but how much time do you think he's spending at his paper?

01:29:03.000 But why do you think he bought that paper?

01:29:05.000 Do you think he bought that paper because he wants to inform people about what the billionaire class is up to, Joe?

01:29:09.000 It's super profitable?

01:29:10.000 It's not!

01:29:11.000 It's not.

01:29:12.000 It makes billions of dollars a year.

01:29:13.000 No, it does really well.

01:29:16.000 It only tells the truth. 0.99

01:29:18.000 In fact, the head of the Washington Post went into the newsroom, this is like a month ago, and I don't know how it got leaked out that he said, hey, nobody's reading your shit anymore. 0.98

01:29:30.000 People are done with the corporate news, hopefully. 0.99

01:29:32.000 Well, that's why you saw that I can't think of her name, that idiot from the Washington Post who covers social media. 0.99

01:29:40.000 Taylor Lorenz. 0.99

01:29:41.000 Yeah, the 40-year-old teenager.

01:29:43.000 And she did a TikTok about how I don't know.

01:29:47.000 People don't understand what the country is going to look like without these corporate journalists.

01:29:53.000 Because they just fired like 10,000 of them.

01:29:55.000 And I go, I know what the country is going to look like.

01:29:57.000 I'm going to wake up every morning and an animated bluebird is going to land on my shoulder and we're all going to break out into song.

01:30:02.000 Okay?

01:30:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:03.000 Because corporate news is fucking nothing but bullshit propaganda. 1.00

01:30:07.000 We've known this forever. 1.00

01:30:08.000 Right.

01:30:08.000 And if you can...

01:30:09.000 But people keep falling for it.

01:30:10.000 I think...

01:30:12.000 People don't think that independent news can replace it, but I 100% think it can.

01:30:17.000 And I think it has more of a likelihood of doing that because if you can get independent journalists that now they can develop substacks and podcasts and they can go and do things on their own and they get funded They don't need anyone else anymore,

01:30:32.000 so then they can tell the truth, right?

01:30:34.000 So they're not beholden to some enormous corporation.

01:30:36.000 If a podcast had a building like CNN's building in Atlanta, I'd start getting nervous.

01:30:41.000 I'd be like, hey, how much overhead is this?

01:30:44.000 How are you guys paying the bills? 0.99

01:30:45.000 You got so many people working here, and your show sucks. 0.97

01:30:48.000 You have nobody watching, and there's so many people. 1.00

01:30:50.000 This is a fucking disaster. 0.99

01:30:51.000 Like, what are you guys doing? 1.00

01:30:53.000 They just closed their Atlanta building.

01:30:54.000 Did they?

01:30:55.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 Yeah, of course they did.

01:30:57.000 How would they have another building open?

01:30:59.000 How do they have any buildings open?

01:31:00.000 Imagine a show that gets a podcast that gets that few views, but as who knows how many hundreds of employees, giant buildings, They're on an airport, so you get zero views. 0.97

01:31:12.000 Nobody gives a fuck. 0.98

01:31:13.000 I mean, it's a crazy business model. 0.97

01:31:15.000 And Don Lemon started his own YouTube channel, and nobody's watching.

01:31:19.000 It's wonderful.

01:31:21.000 It's as good as Joe Scarborough talking.

01:31:23.000 So I got invited on that show, and I turned it down a few times, and my assistant was like, hey, look, they really want you to do this show.

01:31:31.000 And so I was talking to my friend Jackson Hinkle, and I said, yeah, Don Lemon keeps inviting me on the show.

01:31:35.000 He goes, you gotta go!

01:31:36.000 And I'm like, it would just be me trying to insult him, you know?

01:31:39.000 It would just be me saying how shitty he is and how he's the, you know, because I had just gotten done doing a rant about Chris Cuomo talking about ivermectin, but still lying about it. 0.75

01:31:48.000 And he goes, yeah, that would be fun to watch you do that. 0.94

01:31:52.000 And I go, okay, I'll do it.

01:31:53.000 So I told my assistant, I could tell him I'll do the show.

01:31:56.000 So we set it up.

01:31:57.000 And I go, just me.

01:31:58.000 I go, I'm not going on with anyone else. 1.00

01:32:00.000 I'm not having a debate with another asshole and Don Lemon. 0.99

01:32:03.000 I go, I'll just go on with Don Lemon. 1.00

01:32:04.000 And they agreed to it.

01:32:05.000 And so the morning we were supposed to do the show, an hour show, just me, they canceled.

01:32:11.000 Really?

01:32:12.000 Yes.

01:32:12.000 Interesting.

01:32:13.000 Yeah.

01:32:15.000 Maybe because Don Lemon's like, oh, who am I interviewing today?

01:32:19.000 And then he Googled me.

01:32:20.000 He's like, no, we're not. 1.00

01:32:22.000 And that was right when I did a video, you know, calling out Chris Cuomo for being a lying piece of shit. 1.00

01:32:29.000 That went kind of viral. 1.00

01:32:31.000 All right, so Chris Cuomo probably called up.

01:32:33.000 They probably talked.

01:32:34.000 They're probably homies. 1.00

01:32:35.000 He probably saw that video.

01:32:37.000 Yeah.

01:32:37.000 He probably went to, you know, putting Jimmy Dore on Twitter and that comes up.

01:32:41.000 Well, he should be, if he wants to become successful, being an independent person, he's going to have to engage in conversations with people he disagrees with.

01:32:48.000 He still calls the truth about COVID conspiracy theories. 1.00

01:32:52.000 Yeah, he's a fool. 1.00

01:32:53.000 He's a fool. 1.00

01:32:54.000 He's a genuine fool. 1.00

01:32:55.000 He's one of those guys, Ivermectin's horse paste. 1.00

01:32:59.000 The lab theory is racist against Chinese people.

01:33:04.000 He had a whole episode with Sanjay Gupta after Sanjay Gupta came on here.

01:33:09.000 Admitted that they were lying about Ivermectin and then they tried to pretend that they weren't.

01:33:13.000 But it is horse medicine. 0.99

01:33:14.000 It was used for human beings for 12 fucking years. 0.99

01:33:18.000 Before they ever used it for veteran medicine. 1.00

01:33:21.000 Don Lemon, you fucking moron. 1.00

01:33:23.000 It's just so – the idea that these talking heads who they had on CNN should be some sort of a moral compass and an ethical compass for the rest of us is so fucking stupid and so insulting, 1.00

01:33:39.000 especially when you see these people on their own. 0.99

01:33:41.000 So when you see these people on their own, like when you see Dave Smith – Debating Chris Cuomo and just fucking nuking him.

01:33:47.000 And then you see Don Lemon doing his show and you go, okay, this is who you guys are. 0.71

01:33:51.000 For real, for real.

01:33:51.000 This is the real for real.

01:33:52.000 When you see fucking Brian Stelter doing that WEF thing, hiking up his skirt for those lizard people. 1.00

01:34:00.000 The whole thing is like, this is who you really were. 0.99

01:34:03.000 This is you guys.

01:34:05.000 You surviving on your own in this independent platform, good luck, because this platform is transparent.

01:34:11.000 They're gonna see you for who you are.

01:34:13.000 No producers, no fuckin' scripts you're gonna read off of. 1.00

01:34:16.000 That shit won't even work in this realm. 1.00

01:34:18.000 It doesn't work. 1.00

01:34:19.000 So I have this dream to produce a show that would compete with Bill Maher.

01:34:24.000 I don't know if you've ever seen, I do live shows, right, with a panel.

01:34:29.000 And a live audience, right?

01:34:31.000 So it's kind of like Bill Maher, but it's funny and it's accurate.

01:34:35.000 So I've been pitching it to Rumble.

01:34:38.000 You know what Rumble is, right?

01:34:39.000 Sure.

01:34:39.000 And so thank God for Rumble because I don't have to ever worry about being censored.

01:34:45.000 Rumble's great. 0.99

01:34:46.000 They've been out in front on the free, like, we're not going to censor you whatever the fuck you want. 0.98

01:34:49.000 That's up to you and your audience. 0.99

01:34:51.000 And I'm like, oh my God. 0.97

01:34:52.000 And so I travel around the country and nobody's fucking heard of Rumble. 0.76

01:34:56.000 I mean, except- More people have now than ever before. 0.90

01:34:59.000 People are starting, and so I tried to talk to them, and they're like, hey, why don't you finance a show and a soundstage for me, and we could compete with Bill Maher, and instead of real time, we'll call it rumble time, and we'll put a billboard up in Times Square right across the street from where Bill does his fucking show, and this would be like- It's a good idea.

01:35:16.000 And they were on board, but I guess it was too much money.

01:35:20.000 I don't know how much money they had.

01:35:22.000 It wasn't that much.

01:35:23.000 It's like- I got it down to like 90,000 an episode.

01:35:27.000 For like a real thing that would look exactly as good as Bill Maher, which you know that costs a couple million dollars an episode, right?

01:35:31.000 And would you do it in front of an audience?

01:35:32.000 Yes!

01:35:33.000 Yeah.

01:35:33.000 Of course.

01:35:34.000 I've got the studio.

01:35:34.000 Like your shows.

01:35:35.000 Like your stand-up shows.

01:35:36.000 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 So I do those.

01:35:38.000 I travel with that show.

01:35:39.000 I do a video show hooked up to my computer.

01:35:42.000 And it's kind of a mixture of The Daily Show and Bill Maher's show.

01:35:46.000 I have a panel.

01:35:46.000 Right.

01:35:47.000 And we have the comedy.

01:35:48.000 I've seen it.

01:35:49.000 It's very funny.

01:35:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:35:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:51.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.000 Yeah, that one thing about Rachel Maddow lying 35 times.

01:35:54.000 Yeah, I love that man.

01:35:57.000 So I do that and I tour.

01:35:59.000 The next time I'm doing it is in Chicago in August, right before the convention.

01:36:03.000 I got press credentials.

01:36:05.000 Oh my God.

01:36:06.000 I can't...

01:36:07.000 Well, I shouldn't say anything.

01:36:08.000 Yeah, we probably shouldn't have told anybody.

01:36:10.000 I shouldn't have said anything, but I got them.

01:36:13.000 Well, you're a real journalist.

01:36:15.000 You should get press credentials.

01:36:17.000 I was there in 2016. Of course, they didn't have any conventions in 2020 because of COVID, right?

01:36:22.000 But 2016, I went to the Republican and the Democrat, and that's where I met Alex Jones.

01:36:27.000 That's hilarious.

01:36:28.000 That video's hilarious.

01:36:30.000 It's hilarious in retrospect.

01:36:33.000 It was, I guess, at the time, too.

01:36:35.000 But, yeah, it's nice that we've made up and...

01:36:38.000 Yeah, the Alex Jones thing is strange. 1.00

01:36:40.000 It's amazing how right he is about shit. 0.99

01:36:42.000 He's right about so many things. 1.00

01:36:44.000 He's way more accurate than corporate news, that's for sure.

01:36:47.000 But he got that one thing wrong.

01:36:49.000 The one thing wrong.

01:36:50.000 Well, he's gotten other things wrong, but that one thing was a big one.

01:36:53.000 And that one thing changed.

01:36:55.000 Maybe they did.

01:36:56.000 I mean, it could have been that they did.

01:36:58.000 I do think that that is something that does happen.

01:37:01.000 One of the things when something happens is people.

01:37:05.000 And I don't know if it's...

01:37:07.000 Human beings or if it's groups of its foreign groups They will concoct a fake narrative and try to get people to share it Like they'll try to fool people into sharing a fake version of some real thing that happened and I think they do that to undermine people that are conspiracy theorists that are occasionally correct and So if you can get a conspiracy theorist who's occasionally correct and get them a bunch of bad information,

01:37:35.000 foolish information, and convince them on a website, polls, get a bunch of people involved that also believe it, you know, I think that's where Flat Earth got started.

01:37:43.000 And you get all these people, like, sharing things and believing things, and then if this person, they take the bait, and they'll go, this is what we're hearing. 0.98

01:37:50.000 We're hearing this is a false flag.

01:37:51.000 And then next thing you know, like, we got them.

01:37:54.000 We got them.

01:37:55.000 And if you're a guy like Alex Jones, who at the time was Legitimately experiencing what you would call like a psychotic break.

01:38:01.000 He was breaking.

01:38:02.000 You know, the guy was drinking like crazy and, you know, when you're uncovering real conspiracies all day long every day, which is what he does.

01:38:11.000 Nothing seems crazy.

01:38:12.000 Everything seems off the wall. 0.99

01:38:14.000 The whole fucking world seems topsy-turvy. 0.99

01:38:16.000 Nothing makes sense. 1.00

01:38:18.000 He fucked up. 0.99

01:38:19.000 But he's right so often. 1.00

01:38:21.000 If you look at what CNN is fucked up on, how come they're not in trouble for the weapons of mass destruction shit? 0.99

01:38:26.000 How come they're not in trouble for Russiagate? 0.99

01:38:28.000 How come they're not in trouble for so many... 0.99

01:38:31.000 Which fuck up do you think is bigger? 0.99

01:38:33.000 The one that Hillary and Barack Obama did in Libya? 0.99

01:38:35.000 Yeah.

01:38:36.000 Or Alex Jones.

01:38:38.000 Yeah.

01:38:38.000 Which one do you think is bigger and worse?

01:38:39.000 Yeah, one of them seems bigger.

01:38:41.000 Yeah.

01:38:41.000 But it's also, it's like the news.

01:38:43.000 The news, when they were lying about certain things, how much damage did they do?

01:38:48.000 I've always said this, that imagine if...

01:38:51.000 The news people were skeptical about the vaccine.

01:38:54.000 The news people were skeptical about not being able to use off-label medications at a doctor's discretion, especially ones that have been actually shown to stop viral replication in vitro.

01:39:06.000 And there's a history of success in using these things in other countries.

01:39:09.000 Like Urdar Pradesh in India.

01:39:11.000 There's a bunch of different things that were going on simultaneously, and yet they're still being stopped.

01:39:16.000 Wouldn't the real news imagine, if the real news is like, hold on, it seems like there's special interests involved here, and there's a financial incentive to push this one thing, which is what they have to do in order to get the Emergency Use Authorization Act.

01:39:30.000 There can't be any valid pharmaceutical drugs that are available currently that we could prescribe.

01:39:36.000 That's the only way you can get some new thing to pass through.

01:39:39.000 Imagine if that was the news.

01:39:41.000 And podcasters were like, it's safe and effective.

01:39:44.000 If you get it, you won't get sick.

01:39:46.000 If you get it, you won't share it to anybody else.

01:39:49.000 The virus stops with you.

01:39:51.000 And then there are no, there's none, all this talk about side effects, it's not true.

01:39:56.000 It's not true.

01:39:57.000 I've never seen a single person that had a bad reaction to this new experimental gene therapy.

01:40:03.000 Imagine if it was the podcasters.

01:40:05.000 We would all be in the news.

01:40:06.000 We would all be getting sued.

01:40:08.000 They would use it to shut us down. 1.00

01:40:11.000 That would be the misinformation that they would feed us to get us to say stupid shit so that we would endanger people's lives and ruin people's health and they would shut us down. 1.00

01:40:21.000 100%. 1.00

01:40:21.000 How are they not suspect of... 1.00

01:40:26.000 An industry that has immunity from lawsuits if their product harms people.

01:40:32.000 In the history of the humanity, that's the only one.

01:40:34.000 Yeah.

01:40:35.000 Well, why did they pass a law that, well, because they're safe?

01:40:39.000 Well, that doesn't make any sense.

01:40:40.000 That's not true! 0.96

01:40:41.000 If they were safe, you wouldn't need to fucking pass that law that gave immunity from lawsuits. 0.87

01:40:45.000 Literally, when they were trying to figure out why they needed this, and they were saying, why don't you make vaccines safe? 0.90

01:40:55.000 The literal explanation was, it is impossible to make them entirely safe.

01:41:02.000 So what you're saying is they're not entirely safe.

01:41:04.000 You're going to injure some people.

01:41:06.000 Almost all medications.

01:41:07.000 Of course.

01:41:08.000 If you give them to enough people, you're going to have side effects.

01:41:10.000 And then when you have a new one, and then when you understand how they're allowed to do studies, and how they're allowed to throw out all the studies that show it does harm, or it doesn't work, or it's not effective, and then you fucking finagle the numbers in a way that you can push it, I think we're going to see a real improvement here.

01:41:25.000 Like, okay, run with it!

01:41:27.000 Go! 0.95

01:41:27.000 And then the money starts rolling in. 0.95

01:41:29.000 Yeah, and that's how they captured the news because Bill Clinton let them in 1997. I think they passed a law that let Big Pharma.

01:41:36.000 Now, most of the funding for news comes from...

01:41:38.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

01:41:39.000 By Pfizer, right?

01:41:40.000 And so, of course, they get to...

01:41:41.000 So, they're not...

01:41:42.000 So, what I say is that when you see Boeing advertising on Meet the Press or Pfizer advertising on CNN, they're not funding the news organization's investigation.

01:41:53.000 They're funding their non-investigation.

01:41:55.000 Right? 0.98

01:41:56.000 They're like, this is money so you don't fucking investigate us. 0.98

01:41:58.000 Exactly. 0.56

01:41:59.000 And the people who do, like my friend Anita Krishna in Canada, she worked for a, I forget the name of the global news, or some big news network in Canada, and so she started to ask just regular questions.

01:42:14.000 And she got fired. 0.97

01:42:15.000 And she videotaped her session where they fire her. 0.99

01:42:19.000 You know, like, hey, why are you...

01:42:21.000 She's like, isn't that what we're supposed to be doing?

01:42:23.000 We're a news organization.

01:42:25.000 Aren't we supposed to be asking the questions why there's all these miscarriages that are happening at the hospital?

01:42:30.000 Aren't we supposed to be asking about the explosion of cancer?

01:42:32.000 Aren't we supposed to be asking these questions?

01:42:34.000 Isn't that what we do as a news organization?

01:42:36.000 And she got fired for that, of course. 0.62

01:42:38.000 Yeah.

01:42:38.000 And so, here's the latest thing.

01:42:41.000 But don't you think that this craziness is good for us?

01:42:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:45.000 Well, I wouldn't have a show if CNN and MSNBC... Not just us, but us as a population. 0.99

01:42:49.000 Because it's so stupid that we get through it and then more people wake up. 0.99

01:42:53.000 I hope so. 1.00

01:42:55.000 I think it's the only way we're going to really know who's pulling the strings.

01:42:58.000 I keep bumping into, you know, I go to comedy clubs and...

01:43:01.000 You live in LA. That's the problem.

01:43:02.000 You've got to get out.

01:43:03.000 Texas is a different world.

01:43:05.000 Is it really?

01:43:06.000 100%.

01:43:06.000 Wait till you come to the show tonight.

01:43:07.000 The comedy community here?

01:43:08.000 Oh my goodness.

01:43:10.000 Oh my goodness.

01:43:11.000 You just wait, sir.

01:43:12.000 Really?

01:43:12.000 Yeah, you're in for a time of your life tonight.

01:43:14.000 Yeah, it's wild out here.

01:43:16.000 All right.

01:43:16.000 It's wild.

01:43:18.000 It's a different world.

01:43:19.000 Like I said, I did a set in Hollywood just last week, and the comedian after me called me an anti-vaxxer. 0.98

01:43:26.000 I was like, you're fucking kidding me. 1.00

01:43:28.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:43:29.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:43:30.000 You're kidding. 1.00

01:43:31.000 What does that even mean? 1.00

01:43:32.000 It's such a dumb... 1.00

01:43:33.000 I took the fucking vax, asshole! 1.00

01:43:35.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:43:36.000 Anyway, but there's this new thing, Joe, so I found out. 0.99

01:43:40.000 So when I quit smoking pot, I couldn't sleep, and I thought I was going to die.

01:43:44.000 But for some reason, I didn't go back.

01:43:45.000 Because if you don't get sleep, it's the worst thing in the world.

01:43:48.000 I would sleep for two hours.

01:43:49.000 I would fall asleep and wake up.

01:43:51.000 And I was like...

01:43:52.000 And so...

01:43:55.000 I was told about this thing called HGB. HCG? No, HGB. I guess it came to America in the 90s.

01:44:04.000 I just did a video about it.

01:44:07.000 And it's the ultimate sleep medicine.

01:44:11.000 So the problem with the sleep medicines now...

01:44:13.000 Is that they don't give you restorative sleep.

01:44:16.000 They just kind of knock you out like an anesthetic, right? 0.99

01:44:18.000 So when you wake up, you're still fucking groggy and tired, and you don't have all the shit that sleep does for you, right? 0.99

01:44:24.000 That's the problem. 0.99

01:44:25.000 But this wasn't patented, and it was easily made.

01:44:28.000 You can compound it easily in compounding pharmacies, and bodybuilders used to use it.

01:44:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:35.000 And then they said it was a date rape drug. 0.95

01:44:37.000 Yeah, GHB. GHB, that's it.

01:44:40.000 I've used it as treatment for narcoleps.

01:44:42.000 Yes, so that's the only thing it's approved for now.

01:44:44.000 Only certain doctors can prescribe it.

01:44:47.000 So what they did, this is what they did.

01:44:49.000 So not only did it help you with sleep, restorative sleep, but it helped you with human growth hormone as you got older.

01:44:54.000 It helped you with bone.

01:44:56.000 It's almost like a miracle drug, kind of like ivermectin, right?

01:44:59.000 And it's the same thing.

01:45:00.000 In fact, I just read this.

01:45:01.000 It's very potent, right?

01:45:02.000 If you take too much of it, you get bonked out, right?

01:45:05.000 I guess if you drink a keg of whiskey, it'll do the same thing.

01:45:08.000 I would say take the right dose.

01:45:10.000 People said that to me.

01:45:11.000 They go, you know, if you take an overdose of it, it's bad.

01:45:14.000 Well, then I would not take an overdose.

01:45:15.000 I think people drugged women with this before. 0.94

01:45:17.000 Yeah, it's a date rape drug. 0.99

01:45:19.000 This is the propaganda, Joe.

01:45:21.000 So I just read this article.

01:45:22.000 There's this guy called the Midwestern Doctor.

01:45:24.000 He's got this substack. 0.98

01:45:25.000 He's fucking awesome. 0.98

01:45:27.000 Pierre Corey tweets him out all the time. 0.94

01:45:29.000 And I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, actually.

01:45:31.000 It's just called the Midwestern Doctor.

01:45:32.000 And he did a deep dive into GHB, that stuff.

01:45:36.000 Yeah.

01:45:36.000 And that's how I know all about it.

01:45:39.000 Right.

01:45:39.000 And they did the same thing.

01:45:40.000 In fact, in one of the subtitles of his article, it says they did the same thing, what they did to Ivermectin, they did to this.

01:45:48.000 And so they all got together and said, hey...

01:45:52.000 This is a rape drug. 1.00

01:45:53.000 Even though rohypnol was the rape drug. 0.98

01:45:55.000 Right, roofies. 0.99

01:45:56.000 Yeah, so the roofies.

01:45:57.000 And guess which one got banned?

01:46:00.000 This one, because it actually works.

01:46:02.000 So you can't get GHB? You can still get the roofies because the people that made it lobbied the government to not get it made illegal.

01:46:08.000 Isn't that fucking ironic? 0.94

01:46:09.000 Wow. 0.99

01:46:10.000 What is Rufinol for?

01:46:12.000 Who knows?

01:46:13.000 What's its legitimate use?

01:46:14.000 I don't know, but that's what I read in that Midwestern Doctors article, and he explains it all.

01:46:19.000 It is mind-blowing.

01:46:21.000 And so I was trying to get some of this, right?

01:46:23.000 You can only get it underground, right?

01:46:25.000 So there's certain doctors that make it in certain parts of the country, and they give it to soldiers who have PTSD. And they do it, but if they get caught, they're in trouble, because they made it a Schedule I drug.

01:46:36.000 Wow.

01:46:36.000 Yeah.

01:46:37.000 Cocaine's scheduled too, right?

01:46:39.000 So it's even worse.

01:46:40.000 And I've asked my doctor for it, like, I can't do that.

01:46:44.000 Wow.

01:46:44.000 I can't even tell you where to get it, because I'll get in trouble.

01:46:47.000 And so I found a guy who said he could get it for me, but I had to set up a proton mail, and I had to get Bitcoin, and I had to do this.

01:46:54.000 Jesus.

01:46:54.000 And by the time all that kind of came together, my sleep had come back.

01:46:58.000 So now I'm...

01:47:01.000 So now I don't, but gay guys would use it at raves. 0.99

01:47:05.000 It says it's illegal. 0.81

01:47:06.000 Rupinol is illegal.

01:47:10.000 Oh, is it?

01:47:10.000 It's sold in some countries as a sleeping pill.

01:47:12.000 I'm saying it wrong.

01:47:12.000 It's Rohypnol.

01:47:13.000 Rohypnol, yeah.

01:47:14.000 It's sold in some countries as a sleeping pill, but it's illegal in the United States because it can cause extreme drowsiness or blackouts often used in date rapes.

01:47:22.000 Oh, okay.

01:47:23.000 Yeah, so it's illegal.

01:47:24.000 It's sold under the brand name Rohypnol.

01:47:26.000 Benzodiazepine.

01:47:27.000 Oh, uh-huh.

01:47:27.000 Mmm, it's a benzo.

01:47:29.000 Uh-huh.

01:47:30.000 Okay.

01:47:31.000 And so this GHB bodybuilders use it because it helps them recover?

01:47:35.000 Yeah.

01:47:35.000 Is that the idea?

01:47:35.000 And it creates growth hormone.

01:47:39.000 Makes sense.

01:47:39.000 And it's great for people who are aging.

01:47:42.000 So now you can't get it. 0.99

01:47:44.000 God damn it. 0.99

01:47:45.000 Because they couldn't... 1.00

01:47:46.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

01:47:47.000 Someone needs to give that to Biden. 1.00

01:47:49.000 Maybe it'll help them. 1.00

01:47:50.000 Don't you love the bullshit they would say about... 0.99

01:47:53.000 Like, Chris Cuomo said this when he was talking to Dave Smith. 0.99

01:47:56.000 He goes, well, the people who make ivermectin, they say it doesn't treat COVID. You know why?

01:48:00.000 Because it's off patent, you fucking asshole! 1.00

01:48:02.000 And they can't make money off it, so now anybody can make it, and it's pennies. 1.00

01:48:06.000 That's why.

01:48:07.000 You don't know that, newsman? 0.99

01:48:09.000 Yeah, how the fuck did Dave Smith... 0.97

01:48:11.000 I guess Dave Smith didn't know, but, I mean, sitting next to that guy, how did he keep his cool? 0.98

01:48:16.000 I want to just, Dave Smith was such a, like, he's so level-headed while that was going on. 0.99

01:48:20.000 I was like, how the fuck did Dave Smith not lose his fucking mind talking to that guy? 0.99

01:48:24.000 It was glad that, it's good that there was a live audience there. 1.00

01:48:27.000 Yeah, and the live audience is like, bullshit. 1.00

01:48:30.000 Bullshit, dude. 1.00

01:48:31.000 And when you see him say, I didn't do it, I didn't say that, and then there's a video clip of him saying it. 1.00

01:48:36.000 How does he not know that?

01:48:38.000 And then he goes, well, he says that this was the information that we were being given.

01:48:42.000 Yeah, and you're supposed to go out there and debunk the information you're being given by the government and Big Pharma. 0.97

01:48:48.000 You're not just supposed to fucking repeat it.

01:48:50.000 If you just did one Google search of what is ivermectic. 0.98

01:48:54.000 That's it!

01:48:54.000 He wouldn't do that!

01:48:54.000 That's all you had to do.

01:48:55.000 One Google search.

01:48:56.000 It doesn't take five minutes, it takes 30 seconds.

01:48:57.000 And you're like, oh, it won a Nobel Prize for the guy who invented it.

01:48:59.000 For human medicine?

01:49:00.000 Oh my God.

01:49:01.000 Oh my God.

01:49:01.000 It's one of the safest drug profiles ever observed.

01:49:04.000 Oh.

01:49:05.000 Ever.

01:49:06.000 Safer than Tylenol.

01:49:07.000 How crazy was it when Rolling Stone had that article about people- Oh, Rolling Stone's the worst.

01:49:11.000 Waiting in line at the emergency room for gunshot wounds because so many people were overdosing on horse medication.

01:49:17.000 And they were all wearing coats in August in Kentucky.

01:49:20.000 How are those people not in trouble?

01:49:21.000 How are they not in trouble for that?

01:49:22.000 Because how many people could have gotten ivermectin and gotten over COVID and didn't get it?

01:49:29.000 And I'm not even saying that it works.

01:49:31.000 Let's just say some people think it works. 0.99

01:49:34.000 Some people that are fucking doctors, like Pierre Corey. 0.99

01:49:36.000 It certainly works. 0.99

01:49:38.000 87 different...

01:49:39.000 I mean, there's like a bunch of different randomized controlled trials that shows efficacy.

01:49:42.000 And that's another thing I learned, is that the people who do the test...

01:49:47.000 So the medical journals are also corrupted by big pharma.

01:49:51.000 And so what they'll do is, oh, we're going to do a study on ivermectin.

01:49:55.000 Turns out it doesn't work.

01:49:56.000 Well, look, they do the study.

01:49:58.000 They set it up to fail, right?

01:49:59.000 They give it to a person a week after they already got sick.

01:50:02.000 You're supposed to give it to them right away.

01:50:03.000 They give it to them in way smaller doses than they're supposed to.

01:50:06.000 And then they did one where they gave them to way higher doses.

01:50:08.000 That was hydroxychloroquine. 1.00

01:50:12.000 It's a fucking scam. 1.00

01:50:13.000 So the medical field is just as bought by the same people as your corporate news is. 1.00

01:50:18.000 So we're all walking around in a big propaganda fucking machine and nobody knows it. 0.98

01:50:22.000 They think they know. 0.99

01:50:22.000 And they get so righteous. 0.99

01:50:25.000 The crazy thing is doctors buying into it.

01:50:29.000 And when you realize that you can't trust them for medical advice, you're like, wait, what?

01:50:33.000 When you have a doctor telling you that you should get vaccinated after you just got over being sick, and you were only sick for a couple days, and you have two people that you know that had strokes from the vaccine, and you're like, wait, what?

01:50:45.000 Who gets vaccinated for a virus they already had and got over?

01:50:48.000 Nobody.

01:50:49.000 That's in the history of ever, right?

01:50:51.000 Yeah, nobody.

01:50:51.000 My parents.

01:50:53.000 But nobody else.

01:50:53.000 I knew people.

01:50:54.000 I knew comedians.

01:50:55.000 Oh, I know a bunch of comedians.

01:50:57.000 That was the heartbreak.

01:50:58.000 I was always so proud to be part of the comedy community or the brotherhood, whatever.

01:51:03.000 It's a certain kind of thing, right?

01:51:04.000 We talk in dark terms to each other. 1.00

01:51:06.000 We say the most inappropriate shit to each other. 1.00

01:51:09.000 But it just all flipped. 1.00

01:51:11.000 I mean, some of my favorite comedians, some of my best friends, they just fucking went mental and then they attacked me. 0.97

01:51:17.000 Yeah. 0.82

01:51:17.000 But they're not really your friends anywhere. 0.82

01:51:20.000 They're a bunch of narcissists that all live in this stupid bubble where they're trying to get validation from people by virtue signaling. 1.00

01:51:27.000 That's all those people were. 1.00

01:51:28.000 A bunch of cowards and weirdos and they all turned on everybody. 0.98

01:51:31.000 And they generally turned on people that are more successful than them. 0.99

01:51:34.000 That's what it's really all about.

01:51:36.000 The heart of it.

01:51:37.000 It's signaling to your tribe that you are compliant, you're a part of the groupthink, and then attacking the people that are above you that are doing more successfully, that are more successful with their career than you.

01:51:47.000 That's all it was.

01:51:48.000 And all the people that did it are all terrible comedians. 0.99

01:51:52.000 They're all mediocre, sad... 0.99

01:51:55.000 Narcissists that wish they got more attention than they got. 1.00

01:51:58.000 They think they didn't get what they deserve.

01:52:00.000 They think they should be getting more.

01:52:02.000 They're angry at people that are getting attention.

01:52:04.000 They don't understand success of other people.

01:52:06.000 And they get, he's an anti-vaxxer!

01:52:08.000 He's an anti-vaxxer!

01:52:10.000 Oh, that's what's going on?

01:52:11.000 That's why he's got millions of views?

01:52:13.000 Is really that what it is?

01:52:15.000 Isn't it amazing that every day there's a new study from South Korea that just came out that said there's a link between the COVID vax and Alzheimer's, right?

01:52:27.000 And nobody will talk about it.

01:52:30.000 Where are the comedians coming out with the same people who always were debunking the COVID narrative?

01:52:35.000 There's no one that's jumping on board.

01:52:37.000 I'm telling you, brother.

01:52:38.000 It's just L.A. Is it?

01:52:40.000 Yeah, you come to Texas.

01:52:41.000 That green room's lit.

01:52:42.000 We talk about everything.

01:52:44.000 Okay.

01:52:44.000 There's no...

01:52:46.000 Political correctness died here.

01:52:48.000 It's dead.

01:52:49.000 Really?

01:52:49.000 It's dead.

01:52:50.000 I thought it would be red hot in Austin.

01:52:53.000 No.

01:52:54.000 Austin...

01:52:54.000 My friend Brian Simpson has a brilliant joke about it, and I'm not going to quote it, but what he's essentially saying is that it appears that this is a liberal city because you're surrounded by red Texas.

01:53:06.000 But the liberal here is regular liberal.

01:53:09.000 It's like what we are.

01:53:11.000 What you and I are.

01:53:12.000 Like regular, reasonable people who are kind.

01:53:16.000 Not like crazy...

01:53:18.000 Narrative enforcing. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Yeah, babies should be trans, you know, all that shit. 1.00

01:53:22.000 That's not here. 1.00

01:53:23.000 Like, this is a different version.

01:53:26.000 Because it's so tempered.

01:53:28.000 Like, one of the things they always say about Austin is keep Austin weird and surrounded.

01:53:34.000 So when people say weird, weird is okay, but keep it weird and surrounded.

01:53:38.000 You're surrounded by ranchers with guns. 0.98

01:53:41.000 It's fucking hard-working people that aren't buying any bullshit because they get up at 530 in the morning to take care of their cows like they're not fucking around here, man These are there's a different kind of people and they're nice and they're informed and that's the thing about this town that's different It's like it's it's they're much more informed. 0.99

01:53:58.000 You're gonna get your liberal loonies here You get your people walking on the street with masks on you get you get a lot of crazy shit here you get your free Palestine Marches and you know you get a lot of nutty people but It's a more tempered environment. 0.99

01:54:12.000 Like, people are more reasonable. 0.99

01:54:13.000 How about the...

01:54:14.000 So, there are comedians in Los Angeles who wear a mask into the green room, and then they take it off when they go on stage.

01:54:23.000 Right. 0.89

01:54:23.000 They're all terrible. 0.89

01:54:24.000 They're all terrible.

01:54:25.000 Do you think the coronavirus is respectful of stage time?

01:54:28.000 It is.

01:54:28.000 No, it is.

01:54:29.000 It's the lights.

01:54:30.000 Those lights that kill the virus.

01:54:32.000 So here's the one good thing.

01:54:34.000 I'm talking about my dreams.

01:54:38.000 I've had this happen more than once.

01:54:40.000 I'll have a dream where one of my biggest haters, someone who attacks me on public and social media and stuff like that, I'll meet them in my dream and I don't have any animosity but what I can see in them is where their hatred for me comes from and it comes from their pain and their insecurity and a lot of time it's jealousy like you were saying and I can see it And so I don't have any animosity towards them in my dream,

01:55:10.000 and I have compassion for them.

01:55:12.000 Having compassion for someone who hates you, I have it.

01:55:14.000 And then when I wake up, it doesn't go away.

01:55:17.000 It stays with me.

01:55:18.000 And it's like this gift from my unconscious, my transpersonal self, God.

01:55:23.000 It's a gift.

01:55:23.000 Yeah.

01:55:25.000 That is a gift, too.

01:55:26.000 It really is.

01:55:26.000 I literally have compassion for the people who hate me the most.

01:55:31.000 What a fucking gift. 0.99

01:55:32.000 It's beautiful. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Because it'll eat you up.

01:55:36.000 You know me.

01:55:37.000 I'm not 100%.

01:55:38.000 It still bothers me sometimes.

01:55:40.000 But I've had a dream about that guy.

01:55:43.000 I had a dream about him.

01:55:46.000 I'd give him a hug if I saw him.

01:55:48.000 Despite he said awful things about me.

01:55:50.000 He's just a sad man. 1.00

01:55:51.000 Just a sad, pathetic man. 1.00

01:55:53.000 And that's okay. 1.00

01:55:54.000 That's your burden in this life.

01:55:57.000 You're gonna go to the grave as that guy.

01:56:00.000 And everyone's gonna know. 0.98

01:56:01.000 You're this irritant that's in the air. 0.99

01:56:03.000 You're a fart that's in a locker room. 1.00

01:56:06.000 You're a problem. 1.00

01:56:08.000 This is your choice. 1.00

01:56:09.000 You've decided to be this very unpleasant, very anxiety-ridden, very mediocre artist. 0.85

01:56:17.000 Who's out there yelling and screaming into the abyss on Twitter. 0.51

01:56:21.000 Well, that's your burden.

01:56:22.000 This is what you're going to have to go through your life with.

01:56:25.000 And I don't envy you.

01:56:26.000 And I'm not even mad at that guy.

01:56:28.000 I feel sad.

01:56:30.000 They wear that mask, bro. 1.00

01:56:32.000 It's a fucking MAGA hat. 1.00

01:56:34.000 That's a MAGA hat for Democrats. 1.00

01:56:36.000 It's unbelievable.

01:56:37.000 And then you see people, I'll still see people today that choose to wear a mask, and then they wear it under their nose.

01:56:43.000 That's my favorite. 1.00

01:56:46.000 You gotta be fucking... 1.00

01:56:47.000 It doesn't work anyway. 1.00

01:56:49.000 If you want to be anti-science, wear a mask. 1.00

01:56:51.000 That shit does not work. 1.00

01:56:52.000 Especially a surgical mask. 1.00

01:56:54.000 Get the fuck out of here, you moron. 1.00

01:56:57.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:56:59.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:57:00.000 You don't even know what a surgical mask is for. 1.00

01:57:02.000 It's to keep particulates from people's mouths from dropping into wounds.

01:57:05.000 That's what it's for.

01:57:06.000 Yeah, it doesn't stop anything from respiratory, like a respiratory virus from going in.

01:57:10.000 I've had people say, oh, why don't you go tell the doctors?

01:57:13.000 Because all the doctors wear masks. 0.99

01:57:14.000 I go, yeah, in the operating room so shit doesn't fall out of their mouth into an open wound. 0.99

01:57:20.000 You know when they come over before you go into the operating room, the doctor comes over to talk to you. 0.99

01:57:24.000 He takes his mask off and he talks to you.

01:57:26.000 Remember that? 0.99

01:57:27.000 They don't fucking have it on when they're... 1.00

01:57:29.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:57:30.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:57:31.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:57:32.000 It's so childish, but yet it became official doctrine, just like the six-foot distance thing. 1.00

01:57:38.000 It all became official.

01:57:39.000 And so I want to say, we've seen Fauci lied to Rand Paul twice about funding the gain-of-function research, right?

01:57:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:57:46.000 Up and down the chain, people are saying, fuck, you mean the people you hired? 0.99

01:57:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:57:51.000 And so he lied to Congress twice at least about that, right?

01:57:54.000 And then everything else he just lied about.

01:57:56.000 But there will be no consequence.

01:57:58.000 That's the thing that's unsatisfying.

01:57:59.000 It's good just to watch them confront him, the congressmen that were confronting him.

01:58:05.000 Isn't it interesting, though, that the same thing happened to him with AIDS, right?

01:58:08.000 So people forget, there's that movie called The Dallas Buyers Club.

01:58:12.000 Yes. 0.99

01:58:12.000 And Matthew McConaughey won the goddamn Oscar for that movie. 0.99

01:58:15.000 Yes. 1.00

01:58:15.000 And the bad guy in that movie, Dr. fucking Fauci! 1.00

01:58:18.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:58:19.000 And so, you know Matthew McConaughey knows that?

01:58:21.000 Yeah.

01:58:21.000 Why doesn't he say something?

01:58:23.000 I think he wants to keep working.

01:58:24.000 That's exactly it.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, you gotta keep working.

01:58:26.000 That's exactly it.

01:58:27.000 You gotta keep your head down.

01:58:28.000 You can't go again.

01:58:28.000 Yeah.

01:58:28.000 If you go Woody Harrelson, people automatically write hit pieces on you.

01:58:32.000 Fuck, I love that guy. 1.00

01:58:33.000 I love that guy, too. 1.00

01:58:34.000 When he did that thing on Saturday Night Live, they started writing hit pieces on him.

01:58:37.000 Yes!

01:58:37.000 Immediately.

01:58:38.000 Immediately.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 They know what they're doing.

01:58:40.000 They know what they're doing. 0.99

01:58:41.000 They're little lapdogs. 0.99

01:58:42.000 But also, nobody believes those hit pieces. 0.79

01:58:45.000 The people that read it, that hate Woody Harrelson, they already hated him.

01:58:48.000 It's like you're not gonna get those people back.

01:58:50.000 You're gonna have a certain amount of people that don't like you no matter what.

01:58:52.000 So those hit pieces don't really work anymore.

01:58:54.000 They just inform your haters that, oh, I'm on the right track. 0.98

01:58:58.000 I knew he was a retard. 1.00

01:58:59.000 That's all it is. 0.95

01:59:00.000 It's just, it's not real.

01:59:03.000 The whole thing's not real.

01:59:04.000 And everyone knows it's not real.

01:59:05.000 When a guy goes on Saturday Night Live and has a funny monologue that's essentially realistic, That was so perfectly said, too.

01:59:15.000 Amazing.

01:59:15.000 It was amazing.

01:59:16.000 Of course they attacked him.

01:59:17.000 But all that does, really, is show you where the demons are.

01:59:22.000 Like, who's attacking him for that?

01:59:23.000 Who are the people that have sold their soul?

01:59:25.000 Who are the people that are willing to go after this guy for saying something that we all know to be true?

01:59:31.000 You're gonna go after him for that?

01:59:32.000 Remember when they went after Eric Clapton?

01:59:34.000 Oh my god!

01:59:35.000 They went after him so hard.

01:59:37.000 And Eric Clapton, who was vaccinated, who was vaccinated, had a horrible reaction to the vaccine. 0.97

01:59:43.000 He's a racist. 0.94

01:59:44.000 They found some black guy who worked with him 20 years ago, said he was a racist. 1.00

01:59:47.000 He's a racist! 1.00

01:59:48.000 He's a racist! 1.00

01:59:49.000 Everything. 1.00

01:59:49.000 They went after him. 1.00

01:59:50.000 Anti-vaxxer, racist, responsible for the death of millions with his poor choice of words describing his personal illness.

01:59:59.000 But that's how transparent everything is.

02:00:02.000 I mean, obviously I experienced it.

02:00:05.000 It's fascinating to watch it happen when they turn on you.

02:00:08.000 It's weird.

02:00:09.000 It's weird.

02:00:10.000 Because for me, the weirdest thing about it was like... 0.98

02:00:13.000 The play was so stupid because I was obviously okay. 0.99

02:00:17.000 I was obviously healthy really quickly. 1.00

02:00:19.000 Well, you did look green.

02:00:20.000 I should have filmed it because I worked out six days later.

02:00:24.000 I did ten rounds on the heavy bag because I wanted to find out if I felt good and I felt fine.

02:00:28.000 Wouldn't you be more interested in how someone got better if you really wanted the world to be a healthier place?

02:00:33.000 You'd be like, what did that guy do that's different?

02:00:35.000 He's just telling you what he did and he got better and he wasn't vaccinated.

02:00:39.000 So what did he do that's different?

02:00:40.000 Wouldn't that be what the news wants?

02:00:42.000 But no.

02:00:42.000 When the news is controlled by giant corporations, that is an uncomfortable truth.

02:00:48.000 That is a real problem, having that narrative out there that there's someone out there that can get healthy without taking this thing that we're telling everybody they have to take.

02:00:57.000 But if it worked, why would you care if I took it if you took it?

02:01:00.000 You can't get it.

02:01:02.000 So you just, let me get sick. 0.99

02:01:03.000 Let me be a dummy that just gets sick and recovers. 0.99

02:01:05.000 Which most people did. 0.96

02:01:07.000 That's the other thing.

02:01:08.000 They wanted to pretend that like 10% of the people were dying and the hospitals were overrun.

02:01:11.000 No, it's like 99.7% of the people survived.

02:01:16.000 And the people that didn't survive had a...

02:01:20.000 Three comorbidities?

02:01:21.000 Four.

02:01:21.000 Four comorbidities.

02:01:22.000 Four! 0.99

02:01:23.000 So, and then as soon as Bill Gates cashed in his stock, he saw this, right? 0.97

02:01:27.000 He starts shitting on the facts.

02:01:29.000 Well, you know, we didn't know that it had a low fatality rate, the virus had a low fatality rate, and that the vaccine, it wasn't long-lasting, and it didn't block transmission or contraction, and so we gotta do better. 0.82

02:01:40.000 We've got this new thing.

02:01:41.000 It's a nasal thing.

02:01:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:42.000 He literally does that.

02:01:43.000 We got this new thing and this actually works better.

02:01:45.000 I look into it. 0.98

02:01:46.000 He's fucking funding that nasal thing. 0.99

02:01:49.000 Of course he is. 1.00

02:01:50.000 And now he's buying up all the farmland.

02:01:52.000 He's smart.

02:01:54.000 He's a megalomaniac.

02:01:55.000 He's also a guy that people don't realize at one point in time was very hated.

02:02:01.000 In the 90s.

02:02:03.000 Antitrust.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, because he was monopolist and he knew how to crush people who had innovation.

02:02:09.000 And so they would throw pies in his face.

02:02:13.000 Yep.

02:02:13.000 And then he got smart and he was like, oh, I'm going to buy the media.

02:02:16.000 Yeah.

02:02:17.000 Spent hundreds of millions of dollars buying media corporations off.

02:02:25.000 PBS NewsHour do a thing on vaccines.

02:02:27.000 It's being funded by Bill Gates.

02:02:29.000 And it's about a vaccine that he's invested in.

02:02:31.000 So he's funding the vaccine, he's funding the NGOs that's going to distribute it, he's funding the media coverage of the thing.

02:02:39.000 It's like every which way he's got it.

02:02:41.000 And so because he wears a crew neck and he looks like a nerd, people think nerds wouldn't lie.

02:02:47.000 That's why people think Chris Hayes on MSNBC. He's a nerd. 0.89

02:02:50.000 He wouldn't lie. 1.00

02:02:51.000 Rachel Maddow's the homosexuals. 0.99

02:02:52.000 They don't lie.

02:02:53.000 They're naturally good people.

02:02:54.000 Especially if she's wearing a business suit.

02:02:56.000 She's so serious.

02:02:57.000 She's a no-nonsense businessman.

02:02:59.000 I like to say she wears those fake Megyn Kelly eyelashes and she wears... 1.00

02:03:02.000 Does she?

02:03:03.000 Yes!

02:03:04.000 And then she wears jeans that are three times too big for her.

02:03:07.000 Talk about someone in conflict.

02:03:09.000 Oh, does she really?

02:03:10.000 Oh, yes.

02:03:10.000 She wears the man jeans that are gigantic and then she wears the Megyn Kelly eyelashes.

02:03:14.000 Interesting.

02:03:14.000 The man jeans is an interesting choice.

02:03:16.000 Yes.

02:03:17.000 I wonder what that's saying.

02:03:18.000 That's someone in deep conflict with themselves.

02:03:20.000 Hmm.

02:03:21.000 Yeah.

02:03:22.000 Interesting.

02:03:22.000 So that's nice.

02:03:23.000 But $100,000 a day smooths that over, I guess.

02:03:25.000 That's a lot of money.

02:03:26.000 You could spend that in all sorts of fun ways.

02:03:29.000 $100,000 a day?

02:03:30.000 I'm thinking you could buy a Porsche a day.

02:03:32.000 And that was her reward.

02:03:33.000 How about that?

02:03:34.000 Wow.

02:03:34.000 One Porsche a day.

02:03:36.000 Just have a 9-11 for every day of the week.

02:03:41.000 It's worth lying.

02:03:42.000 Go around the corner sideways.

02:03:44.000 Wee! 0.99

02:03:44.000 And listen to good tunes. 0.99

02:03:46.000 Rod Stewart.

02:03:46.000 Wake up, Maggie.

02:03:47.000 Let's go.

02:03:48.000 Driving down the Malibu coast.

02:03:50.000 Sorry.

02:03:51.000 So that's the example.

02:03:53.000 So they put Julian Assange in prison, right, in Belmarsh, and Rachel Maddow does Russiagate, lies about Ukraine, lies about Libya, lies about Syria, and she gets $100,000 a day.

02:04:06.000 I'm glad you brought up Julian Assange, because what did he have to do to get free?

02:04:10.000 So he had to admit that he committed one felony.

02:04:13.000 But didn't he have to delete things?

02:04:15.000 Oh, he did.

02:04:16.000 Turns out I didn't know. 0.99

02:04:17.000 Yeah, it turns out they did delete some some shit. 0.97

02:04:19.000 It's like 20,000 documents or something. 0.98

02:04:21.000 Oh, that's only 20,000.

02:04:22.000 It's no big deal.

02:04:23.000 But, man, oh man.

02:04:26.000 What was it about?

02:04:26.000 Man, oh man, that guy.

02:04:28.000 I mean, what a hero.

02:04:29.000 What an unbelievable, absolute hero.

02:04:31.000 I thought he was gonna die.

02:04:32.000 I thought he was gonna die in that prison, too.

02:04:34.000 What do you think happens to him now?

02:04:35.000 And it looks like they knew they were going to let him out, because when they let him out, he had a little bit of weight on him.

02:04:39.000 It looked like he wasn't as frail as he once was.

02:04:41.000 Oh, like they think they were feeding him good?

02:04:43.000 They looked like, hey, start sending him three meals a day, get him all the steak and everything, so when we let him go, he doesn't look horrible.

02:04:48.000 Oh, was he eating poorly before that?

02:04:50.000 Well, he was, I mean, I saw pictures of him, he looked horrible.

02:04:53.000 Well, he's not getting any vitamin D, right?

02:04:56.000 Right.

02:04:56.000 He's indoors all day long for 10 years?

02:04:59.000 Like, how long was he in jail for?

02:05:00.000 Or locked up.

02:05:01.000 So he was in that prison for six years, but he was in that embassy for, I think, eight years before that or something like that? 0.99

02:05:08.000 Goddamn. 0.99

02:05:09.000 He was in prison for six years? 1.00

02:05:11.000 I'm pretty sure six years.

02:05:14.000 Jamie will find out.

02:05:15.000 Was it 2019?

02:05:17.000 Seven and a half years total.

02:05:19.000 Seven and a half years of self-imposed confinement and then five years of enforced detention.

02:05:24.000 Okay.

02:05:25.000 So five years in Belmar, seven and a half years in that Ecuadorian embassy.

02:05:30.000 Jesus Christ.

02:05:31.000 That guy, how did he not go crazy?

02:05:33.000 I don't know how he didn't go crazy.

02:05:35.000 And then they made him pay for his flight home.

02:05:37.000 Half a million dollars.

02:05:38.000 Half a million dollars.

02:05:39.000 Flew private though.

02:05:39.000 Probably had champagne, strawberries.

02:05:42.000 Why wouldn't someone like Mark Cuban, who brags about he loves his jet collection, like why wouldn't he just send a jet over there to take care of him?

02:05:50.000 He's busy arguing with people on Twitter. 1.00

02:05:53.000 Oh, he's another fucking maniac. 1.00

02:05:55.000 Yeah, he likes arguing on Twitter. 1.00

02:05:56.000 Yeah.

02:05:57.000 It's interesting to watch people.

02:05:58.000 And he's wrong about almost everything.

02:05:59.000 He's wrong about quite a bit.

02:06:00.000 Rav Avora, this young kid who's a journalist who's really good, and he's gone back and forth with them to the point where Mark Cuban has to step out of the chat.

02:06:12.000 He just gets clowned.

02:06:14.000 It's just weird that a person that that busy would choose to engage with people in one of the poorest ways to communicate.

02:06:22.000 Like to go back and forth in argument with people on Twitter.

02:06:25.000 You just want to post things.

02:06:26.000 And you have something that you feel like is on your mind.

02:06:29.000 Like, I'll post that.

02:06:30.000 But when you start arguing with people on Twitter...

02:06:33.000 I go, how much time do you have?

02:06:34.000 No kidding.

02:06:35.000 How do you have the time to do that?

02:06:36.000 Don't you own 85 million companies that you have to run? 0.80

02:06:38.000 It's like a sign of mental illness to be arguing with people all day on Twitter, in my opinion.

02:06:43.000 I think when I see people arguing with people on Twitter, I'm like, oh, that's a person that's wracked with anxiety.

02:06:48.000 That's a truly unhealthy person.

02:06:50.000 There's no way you can't be.

02:06:52.000 You're going back and forth with people.

02:06:53.000 You feel it.

02:06:54.000 You're a human being. 0.96

02:06:54.000 If you're in conflict, and you're trying to get one up on the person in every fucking tweet, and you're checking your Twitter every five minutes to see who's responded and how it's doing. 0.96

02:07:03.000 Did you get ratioed? 0.94

02:07:04.000 Oh my god, I got ratioed. 1.00

02:07:05.000 Fuck! 1.00

02:07:05.000 Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck! 1.00

02:07:06.000 And then your wife's upset, and your kid's, Daddy, can we play? 1.00

02:07:09.000 Hold on! 0.98

02:07:10.000 You're in the middle of tweeting. 1.00

02:07:11.000 It's fucking manic stuff. 1.00

02:07:13.000 It's not good for you. 1.00

02:07:14.000 It's bad for you.

02:07:15.000 It's a bad way to communicate.

02:07:16.000 The best way to communicate is civilly in front of a person.

02:07:19.000 That's the best way.

02:07:20.000 Even though you're yelling and screaming at a person right in front of you, that feels bad too.

02:07:23.000 You should be able to, as a grown adult, have a civil conversation with people where you could disagree with, even really disagree with something, but just keep a professional, polite tone.

02:07:35.000 But there's this...

02:07:36.000 You know what's interesting?

02:07:38.000 I just interviewed this woman called Blair White. 0.98

02:07:41.000 Yeah, I've had Blair on. 1.00

02:07:42.000 So I told her, I said, you know when...

02:07:45.000 Right-wing trans person.

02:07:47.000 Yeah.

02:07:47.000 What are the odds?

02:07:48.000 Right?

02:07:50.000 So I've had trans fans come to the show, right? 0.99

02:07:54.000 Kurt fucks them in the green room. 0.99

02:07:55.000 Well, how dare you. 0.99

02:07:57.000 Depending.

02:07:57.000 Depending how they look.

02:07:59.000 And they have guns.

02:08:03.000 I've had a couple of trans fans come to her and they're like, hey, do you want to see my gun?

02:08:06.000 And I was like, no kidding.

02:08:07.000 That's hilarious.

02:08:09.000 But anyway, when I was talking to her, I was like, you know, I feel like you're a woman.

02:08:16.000 Like, I get the energy of a female from you. 1.00

02:08:18.000 Yes. 0.94

02:08:19.000 And whereas Dylan Mulvaney seems like a gay guy doing an unbelievable caricature of a woman. 0.98

02:08:26.000 Right. 0.99

02:08:27.000 Agreed. 0.85

02:08:27.000 And she agreed, and she said, yeah, he has gay boy energy. 0.85

02:08:31.000 Yeah.

02:08:31.000 And so she went to these LGBT... The Pride Parades, right?

02:08:37.000 And she would ask people, how many genders do you think there are? 1.00

02:08:40.000 And when do you think kids should be allowed to have gender-affirming care and have hormones and stuff? 0.93

02:08:46.000 So she's asking these questions, right?

02:08:47.000 Which we're all talking about.

02:08:49.000 And she's doing it in a polite way. 0.99

02:08:51.000 And the fucking way people turn... 0.99

02:08:53.000 They had security following her. 0.99

02:08:55.000 She basically got kicked out of the Pride Fest. 0.90

02:08:58.000 And people are like... 1.00

02:09:00.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:09:00.000 Like, they found out that she says to one guy, you know, what do you think about Donald Trump? 1.00

02:09:05.000 He was the first president in the United States to go into the White House supporting gay marriage.

02:09:12.000 And, like, I never thought of it like that.

02:09:14.000 And they're like, oh, you're a Trump supporter. 1.00

02:09:17.000 Fuck you! 1.00

02:09:19.000 I always thought that the gay pride movement was about tolerance and diversity and let me be my thing and you can do your thing. 1.00

02:09:28.000 Now it's like, no, you're only allowed to have one opinion.

02:09:31.000 You're only allowed to have one political view.

02:09:33.000 And if you step out, it's like... 1.00

02:09:35.000 It's fuck you! 1.00

02:09:37.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

02:09:37.000 Isn't it that's the opposite of what I thought the gay movement was all about? 1.00

02:09:41.000 Well, it's the opposite of what the progressive movement is supposed to be all about.

02:09:43.000 The progressive movement is all supposed to be about intelligent, well-educated, compassionate people that have a better perspective of how things are and what causes people to live in unfortunate circumstances and the inefficiencies of so many government organizations and the importance of the working class community.

02:10:03.000 That's what it's supposed to be about.

02:10:05.000 Being kind and helping people and supporting workers and rights and all those things.

02:10:11.000 That's what it originally was.

02:10:13.000 But the problem is, with any ideology, if you have to have a rigid adherence, To whatever the ideology states, whatever the doctrine is, that can shift to the point where it's no longer even a progressive value and you call yourself a progressive, yet you support all these ideas.

02:10:30.000 Like you support the war in Ukraine.

02:10:32.000 You support all these different things.

02:10:34.000 Censorship. 1.00

02:10:35.000 Fucking insane. 0.99

02:10:35.000 Censorship, yeah. 0.99

02:10:36.000 The hallmark of authoritarian dictators is censorship.

02:10:40.000 And they got people who consider themselves progressive.

02:10:44.000 I've never changed.

02:10:46.000 I'm for bodily autonomy, my body, my choice, which you don't hear people say anymore.

02:10:50.000 What they'll say is, oh, I'm pro-abortion.

02:10:53.000 No, you say I'm a woman's right to choose. 1.00

02:10:55.000 Yeah, that's what they say.

02:10:56.000 That's what people like to say the most.

02:10:58.000 Okay, I've heard people start saying they're pro-abortion.

02:11:01.000 No one's pro-abortion.

02:11:02.000 But anyway, so I've stayed my body, my choice, bodily autonomy.

02:11:07.000 I'm anti-war, I'm pro-worker, and I'm anti-censorship for free speech.

02:11:11.000 Those are all considered right-wing positions now.

02:11:14.000 It's crazy.

02:11:15.000 It's crazy.

02:11:15.000 But it just shows you that what we're talking about, it's just the ideology.

02:11:19.000 It's just a cult.

02:11:21.000 And there's two cults in this country.

02:11:23.000 There's the right-wing cult and the left-wing cult.

02:11:25.000 And there's a bunch of people that are centrists.

02:11:27.000 There's a bunch of people that have like a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and they're kind of in the middle, and they're kind of like a left-leaning conservative or right-leaning progressive, and they're confused, and they don't know what to think.

02:11:38.000 And I think the majority of people are kind of really, if you isolated them and get them out of their tribal thinking, the way they look at the world, if it could be explained to them in a kind way, most people are in the center.

02:11:52.000 Most people.

02:11:53.000 I generally think most people are. 0.99

02:11:55.000 But the people on the far left are so fucking crazy, and the people that are on the far right are so fucking crazy, that if you're on the left, you see the people on the far right, well, I'm not that fucking person, so I must be on the left. 0.99

02:12:06.000 And then if you're on the right and you go, yeah, but I'm kind of like pretty open-minded when it comes to a lot of social issues. 1.00

02:12:11.000 But then you see Antifa, you go, well, what the fuck? 0.99

02:12:13.000 I'm not with those people. 0.99

02:12:14.000 I must be right-wing.

02:12:15.000 And then you have this chaos that we have currently.

02:12:18.000 The whole left, I just, I call, I don't call them, you know, people, oh, the far left.

02:12:24.000 I just call them Democrats, right?

02:12:26.000 That's not left if you're for war.

02:12:28.000 It's not left if you're for censorship.

02:12:30.000 It's not left if you're for mandating experimental medical treatments.

02:12:34.000 There's nothing left about that, right?

02:12:36.000 You just vote Democrat. 1.00

02:12:37.000 And these are two bullshit constructs, left-right. 1.00

02:12:41.000 I don't think it matters that much. 1.00

02:12:43.000 I've got way more in common with people who are considered right-wing than I do with Joe fucking Biden. 0.98

02:12:50.000 Right. 0.97

02:12:50.000 Do you know what I mean? 0.97

02:12:51.000 Yeah.

02:12:51.000 And the thing is that people don't realize, I've told you this before, when people say, oh we have to organize along class lines, that means organizing with Trumpers!

02:13:01.000 The workers.

02:13:02.000 That's what Christian Smalls did on Staten Island when he organized the first union in Amazon, right?

02:13:09.000 He didn't go down there and go, hey, who here is for LGBTQ? Hey, who here is a gun nut?

02:13:14.000 You're out.

02:13:15.000 Who's for freedom of speech?

02:13:17.000 You're out.

02:13:17.000 He just went, who's here to get together?

02:13:19.000 We have an economic interest to oppose the man.

02:13:22.000 You with me? 1.00

02:13:22.000 That's how you fucking organize. 1.00

02:13:24.000 You come around... 0.98

02:13:24.000 And you don't have all these things that exclude. 0.98

02:13:27.000 It's all about excluding people.

02:13:28.000 And by the way, I found out that all this trans stuff, it's all come from the top down. 1.00

02:13:33.000 It doesn't come from the bottom up.

02:13:34.000 I figured this out when I saw that Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, talk about enforcing ESG and DEI. And so that's because those companies are the ones who are raping the planet and screwing everybody.

02:13:45.000 Right.

02:14:02.000 Our eyes off the $200 or $600 billion they're sending to the military-industrial complex and enough for transfer of wealth.

02:14:09.000 We're not talking about the CARES Act.

02:14:11.000 We're not talking about things that actually matter, that people are still living under bridges.

02:14:15.000 People don't have health care that doesn't bankrupt them.

02:14:17.000 People can't go bankrupt just trying to go to college.

02:14:19.000 People don't have a decent 80% of workers living paycheck to paycheck.

02:14:22.000 Half the country can't afford a $500 emergency. 1.00

02:14:24.000 All that shit. 0.99

02:14:25.000 We're not talking about any of that stuff if we're talking about all that other stuff. 0.99

02:14:28.000 Exactly.

02:14:29.000 Exactly.

02:14:30.000 And that's part of the playbook.

02:14:31.000 The playbook is keep the people distracted and divided.

02:14:34.000 That's always been the playbook.

02:14:35.000 And then while we're in the middle of these international conflicts that are baffling to everybody involved, and you're wondering how they have all this money to do that, but they don't have any money to address all the problems that we have.

02:14:49.000 How about the people in Maui?

02:14:50.000 Imagine being a person in Maui that lost your home, they give you $700, and then you still can't rebuild.

02:14:55.000 It's a year later, nothing's been built.

02:14:57.000 And at the blink of an eye, they give $100 billion to Zelensky and...

02:15:01.000 Well, even worse, they accidentally sent Ukraine $6 billion.

02:15:05.000 They sent an accidental $6 billion.

02:15:07.000 So then we looked up, like, how much would it cost to rebuild every house that got destroyed in the fire?

02:15:11.000 $5 billion.

02:15:13.000 So they could have done that.

02:15:13.000 So why wouldn't they do that?

02:15:14.000 Why wouldn't they do that?

02:15:15.000 Why wouldn't they do that?

02:15:16.000 I don't understand.

02:15:17.000 Those people are devastated.

02:15:18.000 And then there's all this talk about taking over that land.

02:15:21.000 Well, you go to Maui.

02:15:22.000 I was in Maui, and you see people have put graffiti on the side of buildings saying this is a land grab.

02:15:28.000 Yeah.

02:15:28.000 You see that a lot.

02:15:29.000 It is a land grab.

02:15:30.000 It's a pretty transparent land grab.

02:15:31.000 Right?

02:15:32.000 It's happening in front of our eyes, and no one's doing anything about it because it's five hours in a jet across the ocean. 1.00

02:15:37.000 And we're watching this shit take place where these people... 0.99

02:15:40.000 And first of all, just horrible mismanagement of water rights, horrible mismanagement of power lines. 1.00

02:15:48.000 The fact that they have horrible winds, crazy winds there, and they've had these fucking power lines that are above ground... 0.99

02:15:55.000 When I lived in California, my fucking lines were underground. 0.99

02:15:58.000 They figured it out there. 1.00

02:15:59.000 How come they didn't figure it out in Hawaii?

02:16:01.000 You know how much money could have been saved?

02:16:02.000 They just put the power lines underground?

02:16:04.000 It was so unfortunate that their alarm system malfunctioned.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, how about that?

02:16:09.000 And that the water got turned off, so the firefighters...

02:16:11.000 They wouldn't let them turn the water on.

02:16:13.000 The water's a very valuable commodity there. 0.99

02:16:16.000 The whole thing is fucking insane. 0.92

02:16:18.000 And that the cops are turning people back into the fire. 0.99

02:16:21.000 The whole thing is insane.

02:16:23.000 These are all just unfortunate things.

02:16:25.000 How about that mayor who goes on TV, like what, two weeks after the fires?

02:16:30.000 Talks about how they're going to try to figure out how to turn it into a monument?

02:16:34.000 Oh, I didn't see that.

02:16:35.000 You ever see that speech?

02:16:36.000 No.

02:16:36.000 Was it the mayor or the governor?

02:16:38.000 I forget which guy it was.

02:16:39.000 But he was talking about how they were talking about erecting a monument and turning it into a park or something.

02:16:46.000 What?

02:16:46.000 It's super valuable land where these people are.

02:16:49.000 Yeah.

02:16:50.000 That's the problem, that everybody recognizes.

02:16:52.000 These people have these modest homes on this super valuable piece of land.

02:16:57.000 And if something should happen...

02:17:02.000 Whoops!

02:17:02.000 Whoopsies!

02:17:03.000 If that whoopsies happens, and then they can figure out a way to take it.

02:17:07.000 You know, have you ever seen a fire that melted the wheels off of cars?

02:17:13.000 It does.

02:17:13.000 I mean, fires do do that.

02:17:15.000 Yeah?

02:17:15.000 Yeah.

02:17:16.000 Okay. 0.71

02:17:16.000 Yeah, extreme heat is fucking insane, what it does to cars. 0.71

02:17:19.000 And also, cars are filled with oil. 0.94

02:17:22.000 Oil and gasoline, the kind of heat that you get off of a burning vehicle is extraordinary. 0.94

02:17:29.000 Fires are one thing, like a wood fire, but a fire of a car that's filled with 30 gallons of gas and has rubber tires, that heat is fucking extraordinary. 0.92

02:17:42.000 Extraordinary. 0.96

02:17:43.000 I don't believe you.

02:17:45.000 I mean, fire can do wild things, man.

02:17:48.000 It really can, but...

02:17:50.000 The real problem is how they handled everything.

02:17:52.000 It's so poorly done.

02:17:53.000 By the way, they've had wildfires there commonly because of the fact that they have, like, see?

02:17:57.000 Yeah, liquid aluminum so the wheels melt.

02:18:02.000 So that's all liquid aluminum.

02:18:03.000 Oh, really?

02:18:03.000 That's the wheels melting.

02:18:05.000 Yeah.

02:18:05.000 All right, so now I believe you.

02:18:06.000 Yeah, fire from gasoline and everything in a car is made out of plastic.

02:18:11.000 Think about if you have vinyl seats and plastic grommets and all these different plastic pieces that are on your sides, you know, your A columns and all that's plastic. 0.98

02:18:21.000 The fucking steering wheel's plastic. 0.99

02:18:23.000 The dashboard's plastic. 1.00

02:18:25.000 All that shit goes up and, bro, you better get the fuck out of the way. 0.99

02:18:29.000 And 30 gallons of gasoline. 0.99

02:18:31.000 Like, that's heat, man.

02:18:33.000 That melts everything.

02:18:35.000 Melts mufflers.

02:18:36.000 Melts everything. 0.99

02:18:39.000 Anything aluminum is fucked. 0.99

02:18:40.000 So there's no way to vote our way out of these problems. 0.99

02:18:45.000 It doesn't seem like in America that we're at this.

02:18:47.000 What do you think we could do?

02:18:48.000 What do you think is the real solution to try to get us on the right path?

02:18:52.000 What is the thing that can be done?

02:18:53.000 I think there has to be a, you know, like you say, there's an awakening of people realizing that they're being screwed over by a billionaire class.

02:19:01.000 It's international, right?

02:19:03.000 So the border being open.

02:19:04.000 So that's not only happening in America, that's also happening in Europe, right?

02:19:08.000 You've seen that, and you see what's happening to London, France, what they're doing in Scotland, places like that.

02:19:13.000 And Poland said no, right?

02:19:16.000 They closed their border.

02:19:16.000 But I think this is some kind of bigger plan to...

02:19:22.000 And so I think if people wake up to that, which I think they are starting to...

02:19:27.000 It's going to look, it looks something like the trucker protest in Canada, eh?

02:19:32.000 You always say AF in Canada every time?

02:19:34.000 Yes.

02:19:40.000 I think it's going to look like something like that.

02:19:43.000 We have to have a way to...

02:19:45.000 We've got to make...

02:19:46.000 You know, like January 6th, which was, you know, freaking instigated by the FBI. We know that.

02:19:51.000 I'd love to see the guy who was the congressman.

02:19:54.000 He was interviewing the head, Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI. And he said, did you have any FBI assets inside the Capitol before the breach dressed up like MAGA people?

02:20:04.000 And he says, I can't answer that.

02:20:06.000 And the congressman goes, the answer should be no!

02:20:09.000 It should be no!

02:20:11.000 So that was an attempt to criminalize Trump and criminalize his political movement.

02:20:19.000 The same grand jury, the same RICO statute that they used to indict Donald Trump in Atlanta, they used to also, same RICO statute, same grand jury, to indict the Stop Cop City protesters.

02:20:30.000 And, you know, when I made that case to Cornel West, I go, do you see the game that's being played now?

02:20:34.000 Because they're not only criminalizing their political opponents in the United States, they're doing that all around the world.

02:20:39.000 They did that in Pakistan.

02:20:40.000 So Imran Khan, the guy who stood up and said, people of Pakistan do not want to go along with NATO's wars anymore.

02:20:45.000 He immediately threw him in jail.

02:20:47.000 Now he's a criminal.

02:20:47.000 They did the same thing they did in Brazil.

02:20:49.000 They didn't want Lula to be president, so they threw him in jail, right?

02:20:53.000 And so they thought the center-right guy was going to win.

02:20:55.000 But then the far-right guy, Bolsonaro, won the Trump of Brazil. 0.99

02:20:58.000 They're like, oh, fuck, what do we do? 0.99

02:21:00.000 So they had to let Lula back out of prison because he's the only one who could beat him. 0.99

02:21:04.000 And then once they beat him, they then made it illegal for Bolsonaro to ever run for president again. 0.99

02:21:08.000 And it's the same shit they're doing. 0.97

02:21:09.000 How did they make it illegal for Bolsonaro to not run for president? 0.99

02:21:12.000 It's like they're trying to do to Trump right now, four different, 92 felony, so they bullshit charges against them.

02:21:19.000 I don't know the ins and outs. 0.92

02:21:20.000 I know they did.

02:21:21.000 I know they did that.

02:21:24.000 So that's what, so I think people need to wake up to that and wake up to, if anybody, you know, if anybody catches on fire and that is a problem for the establishment, they criminalize. 0.99

02:21:35.000 Look what they did to the goddamn Russell Brand, for fuck's sake. 0.99

02:21:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:39.000 So immediately if you get a voice and you become a problem for the establishment, that's the new game.

02:21:44.000 They just criminalize you now.

02:21:45.000 And everybody goes along with it.

02:21:47.000 Can you believe how people go along with it?

02:21:49.000 They say that what they are currently doing to Donald Trump, they say he's going to do that to us.

02:21:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:56.000 But you're already fucking doing it! 0.99

02:21:57.000 We've already, this whole idea that somehow he's, isn't that kind of mind-blowing? 0.99

02:22:03.000 How do people not, well, Andrew Cuomo was on the Bill Maher show, and he admitted that they should have never brought that case, and that if he was the Attorney General, he would have never did it.

02:22:12.000 And the only reason that case was ever brought was because it was, Donald Trump was the center of it. 0.99

02:22:17.000 This is how dumb they are. 1.00

02:22:18.000 They went after that guy. 1.00

02:22:21.000 Andrew Cuomo, which if you were going to be strategic about who is your tough guy Democrat that could be president, it's that guy.

02:22:30.000 Andrew Cuomo. 0.98

02:22:31.000 They gave him an Emmy for his bullshit coverage of COVID. Yeah, hilarious. 0.99

02:22:34.000 And they took it away.

02:22:35.000 But listen, he's not a virologist.

02:22:38.000 He's acting on a bunch of different experts that are telling him what to do, including letting people that have COVID back in the nursing homes, which turns out to be devastating.

02:22:45.000 And then also the use of...

02:22:48.000 Ventilators, which they thought was important.

02:22:50.000 We thought we needed a bunch of...

02:22:52.000 Turns out it killed people.

02:22:53.000 It killed some bizarre number, like 80% of the people they put on ventilators wound up dying.

02:22:59.000 And then they would give you drugs that slowed down your breathing.

02:23:02.000 But my point is, if that doesn't happen, That guy's your guy against Trump.

02:23:07.000 Yeah.

02:23:07.000 That guy's your guy.

02:23:08.000 I mean, that's a big, tough guy who speaks well.

02:23:12.000 He's charismatic.

02:23:13.000 He's a big Italian guy who's going to lay... 1.00

02:23:16.000 I mean, great speaker.

02:23:17.000 You heard him on Bill Maher.

02:23:18.000 I'm like, boy, if it wasn't for this one scandal of him liking to hug ladies...

02:23:22.000 Ah, we just, you know, I'm Italian.

02:23:24.000 He is! 0.99

02:23:25.000 I like the, you know, we played a little grab ass. 0.98

02:23:27.000 You know, it was a big deal. 0.99

02:23:28.000 Come on.

02:23:29.000 Listen, Bo, you know, I mean, Joe Biden has been, is that your phone that keeps dinging?

02:23:33.000 Joe Biden has been sniffing kids and hugging people forever.

02:23:37.000 Jesus Christ.

02:23:38.000 You know, I mean, he's, maybe it's me.

02:23:40.000 No, it's me.

02:23:41.000 Is it?

02:23:41.000 Okay.

02:23:42.000 Sorry. 0.99

02:23:42.000 I mean, he's a fucking weird guy. 0.99

02:23:44.000 And they just decided for whatever reason that they were going to take Cuomo out. 0.99

02:23:47.000 And I never understood that, that strategic move.

02:23:50.000 And it must have been some sort of an inside power grab play. 1.00

02:23:54.000 But then they replaced him with that whole true lady who's out of her fucking mind. 1.00

02:23:57.000 God has brought us this vaccine! 1.00

02:23:59.000 This vaccine's brought by God! 0.99

02:24:01.000 Like, what are you even fucking talking about? 0.99

02:24:04.000 And then she fired 100,000 healthcare workers? 1.00

02:24:07.000 How about when she said that black people don't know what a computer is? 0.99

02:24:09.000 Black people don't know what a computer is. 1.00

02:24:11.000 How crazy is that? 0.99

02:24:12.000 Yeah.

02:24:13.000 How crazy is that to even say?

02:24:15.000 Imagine anyone else.

02:24:16.000 So that's how you know how corrupt the media is, because they didn't make a big deal out of that.

02:24:19.000 No. 1.00

02:24:20.000 Everybody was like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:24:21.000 Did you see the memes or the videos that kids made? 1.00

02:24:24.000 No.

02:24:25.000 Oh, my God. 0.92

02:24:26.000 So many funny videos of black kids moving around a computer, confused like a caveman. 0.97

02:24:33.000 I can't see that.

02:24:35.000 Open it up.

02:24:36.000 Yeah.

02:24:38.000 Well, I mean, your phone is a computer. 1.00

02:24:41.000 Dude, everyone knows what a fucking computer is. 0.99

02:24:44.000 It's 2024. It's like Joe Biden in the primary in 2020. Play the record player. 1.00

02:24:48.000 They need to hear words.

02:24:50.000 Turn on the TV. The idea that poor black people don't have a laptop. 0.99

02:24:54.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

02:24:55.000 Everyone's online, you moron. 1.00

02:24:57.000 Everyone. 1.00

02:24:57.000 Literally, the whole country's online. 1.00

02:24:59.000 Did you see the mayor of New York?

02:25:02.000 He said that, so they're trying to get these immigrants jobs. 0.79

02:25:06.000 And he's like, well, a lot of them are real good swimmers.

02:25:08.000 You didn't see that?

02:25:09.000 Yeah, I did see that.

02:25:11.000 Insane.

02:25:12.000 They could be lifeguards.

02:25:13.000 When you want to call them wetbacks, but you want to be politically correct. 1.00

02:25:15.000 Jesus Christ.

02:25:16.000 That's what that was.

02:25:17.000 It's so crazy.

02:25:19.000 The whole thing is so crazy.

02:25:20.000 It's so crazy to watch all the gaslighting and chaos.

02:25:23.000 It's also amazing to see that the Democratic Party is now the establishment party.

02:25:27.000 And it used to be the other way.

02:25:29.000 The Democratic Party used to be the party that represented workers and was against the billionaire class.

02:25:35.000 But then Bill Clinton and Al Gore, no friend of the working man, they saw Reagan and were like, hey, if you can't beat him, join him.

02:25:42.000 And so they decided, like, hey, they said, Wall Street, we got it.

02:25:45.000 Give us the money, military.

02:25:46.000 They started a thing called the Democratic Leadership Council, the DLC. Do you know who was on the board of the DLC? Koch brothers.

02:25:53.000 They were out of their fucking board. 0.99

02:25:55.000 Well, they want the world to be a better place, too. 0.99

02:25:56.000 And so they just want to help people.

02:26:01.000 That's what it's about.

02:26:02.000 That's all it's about.

02:26:02.000 They want to bring democracy.

02:26:03.000 That's what I've been saying.

02:26:05.000 I'm glad you came around.

02:26:06.000 Thank you.

02:26:06.000 That's why I brought you here.

02:26:08.000 I brought you here to educate you.

02:26:11.000 I'm an educator.

02:26:13.000 Breaking President Biden says on a conference call he's staying in.

02:26:16.000 Yes!

02:26:17.000 I'm running.

02:26:17.000 I am the leader of the Democratic Party.

02:26:19.000 No one is pushing me out.

02:26:20.000 I've been knocked down before and counted out my whole life.

02:26:23.000 When you get knocked down, you get back up.

02:26:28.000 I think, I bet my phone was lighting up.

02:26:31.000 I like his moxie. 1.00

02:26:32.000 I like it.

02:26:33.000 I've been told by, I have a billionaire friend who's like a donor.

02:26:37.000 They go, hey, they had a big donor meeting in Denver, like 40 of the top Democratic donors, and they said, who here wants to get rid of Joe Biden?

02:26:45.000 And every hand went up.

02:26:46.000 I think Jill Biden is a secret Trump fan.

02:26:48.000 That's what I think.

02:26:49.000 And I think she knows the way to get Trump back in the White House and straighten this country out is to keep her husband, Joe Biden, running.

02:26:58.000 There's no way she thinks he's okay.

02:27:00.000 So something's going on.

02:27:02.000 What conspiratorially, pretend to be Kurt Metzger for a moment, and what do you think?

02:27:07.000 If you had to say, why would she want him in?

02:27:10.000 You would say, well, because she thinks maybe he can win, even though he's demented, and maybe she can stay in power, but also maybe he doesn't get prosecuted.

02:27:19.000 So this is my question about the recent Supreme Court ruling about the presidential immunity. 0.99

02:27:25.000 If I was in the Democratic Party and I looked at what's going on with Donald Trump, and I looked at the very real possibility that Donald Trump might get back into the White House, I would say, listen, all this Burisma stuff, this is big-time shit. 1.00

02:27:42.000 There's a lot of evidence. 0.98

02:27:44.000 Not a little bit of evidence, like the Trump thing. 1.00

02:27:46.000 Not 34 charges of felonies, which is just a misdemeanor, that's just 34 different checks he wrote for a porn star, which is, what a cheap bastard. 0.99

02:27:54.000 He paid her over 34 different times. 0.98

02:27:56.000 Like, payments.

02:27:58.000 I'll give you installments.

02:28:00.000 I'll give her installments.

02:28:01.000 A little bit here, a little bit there.

02:28:03.000 She doesn't get it all in one lump.

02:28:04.000 Well, did you ever see the video of how Bill Clinton paid off Paula Jones back when he was running for president?

02:28:09.000 When she had the big check?

02:28:11.000 Remember she had the big check because she won a game show?

02:28:13.000 Oh, really?

02:28:13.000 Yeah.

02:28:14.000 It was $850,000 he paid her off.

02:28:16.000 Right.

02:28:16.000 And back then...

02:28:17.000 And they admitted it.

02:28:17.000 They go, hey, okay, now this is over.

02:28:19.000 We paid her off.

02:28:19.000 Yep.

02:28:21.000 Well, the thing was like writing it down on a ledger as a campaign.

02:28:25.000 But in normal cases, as Andrew Cuomo said on Bill Maher's show, that's just a misdemeanor.

02:28:31.000 You get a fine.

02:28:32.000 I'm telling you. 1.00

02:28:32.000 He fucked up with that Cuomo guy. 1.00

02:28:34.000 That guy could have been the president. 0.99

02:28:36.000 And he'd probably be a good president.

02:28:37.000 He was a good mayor.

02:28:38.000 I mean, he's a good governor.

02:28:40.000 Like, wasn't he?

02:28:41.000 He's better than Hochul, right?

02:28:43.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:28:45.000 Everybody loved him at the beginning of COVID. They loved him.

02:28:49.000 Chelsea Handler was saying she's Cuomo-sexual.

02:28:52.000 Remember that? 0.94

02:28:53.000 Cuomo-sexual.

02:28:54.000 Everybody loved him.

02:28:55.000 Everybody loved him.

02:28:55.000 Because he was the stern, straightforward, practical, pragmatic.

02:29:02.000 He was the anti-Trump leader.

02:29:04.000 Yeah, he was a leader.

02:29:06.000 He seemed like a leader.

02:29:07.000 Big, handsome guy.

02:29:08.000 He speaks very well.

02:29:10.000 He also seems like a mob boss.

02:29:12.000 It's like, oh, yeah, he'll take care of it.

02:29:15.000 Mr. Cuomo.

02:29:16.000 Mr. Cuomo's got it all under control. 1.00

02:29:18.000 Are they fucked up? 0.99

02:29:19.000 You have so few charismatic people that are experiencing politics that could have actually gone against Trump. 1.00

02:29:28.000 That was the main guy, in my opinion.

02:29:31.000 Yeah, and I was hoping for it because the guy who does the voices on my show, Mike McCray, he does an Andrew Cuomo.

02:29:35.000 Does he do a good one?

02:29:36.000 He does a very funny one.

02:29:38.000 I like when you have people call in that aren't the people.

02:29:41.000 And a lot of people are like, what?

02:29:42.000 People think it's him.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, who do you have call in?

02:29:44.000 Like, what different people do you have?

02:29:45.000 Well, the first time I had Bill O'Reilly call in, people at KPFQ were like... 0.98

02:29:50.000 And they go, Bill O'Reilly just called someone a whore. 0.93

02:29:53.000 And I'm like, no, that's... 0.97

02:29:57.000 So he did that amazing Mitt Romney.

02:29:59.000 He was hoping for Mitt Romney to get elected.

02:30:01.000 Remember when Howard Stern had that guy that would call in as Letterman?

02:30:04.000 It was dead on.

02:30:05.000 Oh, and I never listened to Howard Stern.

02:30:06.000 Oh, my God.

02:30:07.000 Howard Stern used to have this Letterman guy would call him dead on.

02:30:10.000 Oh, really?

02:30:10.000 Dead on.

02:30:11.000 Just saying wild shit. 1.00

02:30:13.000 And he would say it was David Letterman. 1.00

02:30:14.000 Oh, David Letterman's on the phone.

02:30:16.000 That's what I do.

02:30:17.000 I just pretend.

02:30:19.000 Mike also does Jeff Bridges.

02:30:22.000 Oh, really?

02:30:22.000 Who does Jeff Bridges?

02:30:23.000 That's a weird one.

02:30:24.000 Hey! 0.99

02:30:24.000 I can't do it. 0.99

02:30:25.000 I can't do it.

02:30:26.000 He's like, far out, man.

02:30:28.000 Oh, he does Jeff Bridges as Lebowski?

02:30:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:30:30.000 One of the greatest movies of all time.

02:30:31.000 All time.

02:30:32.000 All time.

02:30:33.000 And he does him.

02:30:35.000 Who else does he do that nobody else does?

02:30:39.000 Oh, he does a great Kevin Spacey.

02:30:42.000 Oh, wow. 1.00

02:30:43.000 Oh, it's fucking... 1.00

02:30:44.000 Everything he says is like that. 1.00

02:30:47.000 That's right.

02:30:48.000 Tell me about your lesbian niece. 1.00

02:30:50.000 Ha! 0.89

02:30:54.000 Anyway, he's brilliant.

02:30:57.000 He was hoping for Mitt Romney, because nobody else did Mitt Romney.

02:31:02.000 Did you see the contrast between the debate in 2012 with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney?

02:31:09.000 Because that was his bad night?

02:31:11.000 No, no, no.

02:31:12.000 Just the way they spoke with each other.

02:31:14.000 There's a video that shows the contrast between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama speaking so cordially and professionally and graciously to each other in 2012 and then 2024 with Trump and Biden going at each other. 1.00

02:31:28.000 You're a sucker. 1.00

02:31:29.000 You're a loser. 1.00

02:31:30.000 And then he's like, he can't play golf. 1.00

02:31:33.000 He's got no golf game.

02:31:35.000 I'm a six handicap.

02:31:37.000 He goes, I have a six handicap.

02:31:38.000 But that's how wild that dude is.

02:31:40.000 And then he changed it to a game.

02:31:41.000 And then immediately he goes, it was an eight.

02:31:42.000 Like, you just switched it? 1.00

02:31:44.000 He's a bullshit artist. 1.00

02:31:46.000 And the worst. 1.00

02:31:48.000 But I love when Trump says to you, let's not be children here. 1.00

02:31:52.000 Like, holy shit! 1.00

02:31:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:31:55.000 It's hilarious.

02:31:56.000 Here, I'll break off with you, but you gotta carry your own bags.

02:32:00.000 Do you think you can carry your own bags? 1.00

02:32:02.000 You can't walk down a fucking flight of stairs. 1.00

02:32:04.000 This is crazy. 1.00

02:32:05.000 You can't even carry the own load in your pants.

02:32:08.000 It's just, what a wild time. 1.00

02:32:10.000 Do you think he shit himself? 0.99

02:32:11.000 People were saying he shit himself when he was with Macron. 0.99

02:32:13.000 Remember he bent over? 0.98

02:32:14.000 Perhaps.

02:32:15.000 Maybe he was preventing himself. 0.98

02:32:16.000 I've shit myself before. 0.99

02:32:17.000 Things happen. 0.98

02:32:19.000 Things go wrong.

02:32:20.000 Things go wrong.

02:32:21.000 That's what I say about Mitch McConnell.

02:32:23.000 People go, you see him have a stroke. 1.00

02:32:24.000 I go, no, he shit his pants. 1.00

02:32:25.000 Look at his face. 1.00

02:32:26.000 I know that face.

02:32:27.000 I've made that face.

02:32:28.000 The Mitch McConnell one?

02:32:29.000 I think he's Windows 95. Yeah.

02:32:32.000 I think he locked up.

02:32:33.000 Yeah, he clicked.

02:32:34.000 Someone needed to control alt delete.

02:32:35.000 Yeah.

02:32:36.000 That poor guy.

02:32:37.000 All those people.

02:32:39.000 There's like, you shouldn't, you know... 0.99

02:32:40.000 We have the oldest fucking people. 1.00

02:32:42.000 They're so old. 1.00

02:32:42.000 Well, because the young people are all, you know, there's all a bunch of ex-girlfriends and ex-husbands out there that are talking shit about them and they're terrified to run. 1.00

02:32:51.000 And if they have real leadership qualities, they probably have a bunch of disgruntled former employees and a bunch of people they can call upon. 0.96

02:32:57.000 They can make up stories.

02:32:59.000 They can concoct narratives.

02:33:00.000 If you're not chosen to be in that position, you want to buck the system.

02:33:04.000 That's what we're seeing with Trump.

02:33:05.000 They come for you.

02:33:06.000 They come for you in very, very...

02:33:08.000 Look how they came for RFK Jr. Yep.

02:33:10.000 Look it out, and they're still doing it.

02:33:11.000 They just brought up a thing about a nanny from the late 90s.

02:33:14.000 Did you see that?

02:33:15.000 No, I didn't see it.

02:33:16.000 Yeah.

02:33:17.000 Here's the thing about RFK Jr. They don't think he can win right now.

02:33:20.000 What does it say? 0.81

02:33:20.000 I'm looking up a Biden farting or shitting himself and found this story I never heard. 0.81

02:33:24.000 What does it say? 0.83

02:33:24.000 Joe Biden or the new Mr. Trump? 0.83

02:33:27.000 Camilla hasn't stopped talking about hearing the president break wind during the chat at COP26 climate summit in Glasgow.

02:33:34.000 So Biden farted himself?

02:33:37.000 It was a long and loud...

02:33:39.000 And impossible to ignore.

02:33:40.000 And impossible to ignore.

02:33:41.000 Camilla hasn't stopped talking about it. 0.84

02:33:43.000 That Biden just farts.

02:33:45.000 Farted in a meeting, yeah.

02:33:46.000 He produced a little natural gas of his own at the COP26 summit.

02:33:50.000 It's audible enough to make the Duchess of Cornwall blush.

02:33:53.000 But is this the Daily Mail?

02:33:55.000 Yeah, they can just kind of say things, can't they?

02:33:56.000 Oh, okay.

02:33:57.000 Over there, they can just kind of say things.

02:33:59.000 You know, that's why...

02:34:00.000 From Politico.

02:34:01.000 Oh, they say it too?

02:34:02.000 They were reporting.

02:34:03.000 Oh my goodness.

02:34:04.000 Maybe it is true.

02:34:05.000 Let's go with it.

02:34:07.000 Old people fart. 1.00

02:34:08.000 It happens.

02:34:09.000 Yeah.

02:34:10.000 That guy's not in control of anything.

02:34:11.000 You think he's in control of his farts?

02:34:13.000 So do you think someone messed up and gave Joe Biden the real vaccine?

02:34:17.000 I don't think that's what happened.

02:34:18.000 I think he's dying.

02:34:20.000 I mean, he had two brain surgeries.

02:34:22.000 He had a brain surgery where they literally cut the top of your head off.

02:34:26.000 He had aneurysms.

02:34:28.000 But look, I told you the study from South Korea.

02:34:31.000 Oh, the Alzheimer's thing?

02:34:33.000 Yeah, it spurs it on.

02:34:34.000 I mean, I don't think any of that stuff's going to help.

02:34:37.000 I mean, but I think he was already a deteriorating state.

02:34:39.000 Yeah, he was, definitely.

02:34:40.000 Period.

02:34:41.000 So I saw a guy, this guy, Dr. John Campbell.

02:34:43.000 Sure.

02:34:44.000 Yeah, he's great.

02:34:45.000 Yeah, he says, although he pretends I don't exist, he won't respond to me.

02:34:50.000 What do you mean?

02:34:51.000 He won't come on my show, he won't talk to me.

02:34:53.000 I wonder why.

02:34:55.000 He goes on everybody else's show.

02:34:57.000 That's bizarre.

02:34:58.000 Including Russell Brand.

02:35:03.000 Just the other day I saw a video, I tweeted it out that he says he thinks he has Lewy body disorder, which is what I think Robin Williams said.

02:35:11.000 Yes, he did, yeah.

02:35:12.000 And he talks about all the different things that people will mistake it for Alzheimer's and will mistake it for Parkinson's, but it's really this Lewy body disorder thing.

02:35:22.000 He might be right.

02:35:22.000 He's been right through the entire pandemic.

02:35:25.000 Very reasonable and very right when he's talking about...

02:35:28.000 Well, once he realized that it was a lie.

02:35:31.000 Yeah.

02:35:31.000 And then he's like, he got duped.

02:35:35.000 It's like all these people, even like Pierre Corey, he's like, I didn't realize how corrupt the medical field is and how they control the medical journals and they can just make a study that will disprove a drug is good and they'll just do it wrong, say it's bad.

02:35:49.000 Yeah.

02:35:49.000 And so, yeah, he was...

02:35:52.000 He found this out through COVID, too, that, like, wow, the medical journals are all corrupt.

02:35:56.000 And will he be saying that he was, so he thinks that Biden has Lewy body dementia?

02:36:00.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:36:02.000 I mean, it's just shocking that he can say that.

02:36:06.000 I'm not going anywhere.

02:36:07.000 You get knocked down.

02:36:08.000 You get back up.

02:36:10.000 No one has the ability.

02:36:11.000 No one knocked you down.

02:36:13.000 But no one has the ability.

02:36:14.000 That's what's crazy.

02:36:15.000 No one has the ability in the Democratic Party to pull him aside and say it's over.

02:36:19.000 Like, who would be that person?

02:36:20.000 This is the question.

02:36:21.000 Obama, right?

02:36:22.000 Obama was the one who got everybody to drop out in the primary in 2020. Right.

02:36:26.000 Except for Elizabeth Warren, so they could split the vote of Bernie. 1.00

02:36:30.000 Right, right.

02:36:31.000 So I think it's Obama.

02:36:33.000 So why wouldn't Obama have that power over him now? 0.79

02:36:36.000 You think once he's president, he's like, I'm president, goddammit.

02:36:38.000 I think he's getting replaced.

02:36:40.000 Still?

02:36:41.000 I think he's getting replaced.

02:36:42.000 I don't care what he says.

02:36:43.000 But do you think there's a possibility that they would...

02:36:48.000 Of course there is!

02:36:49.000 I think, possibly.

02:36:50.000 If they needed to. 0.99

02:36:52.000 You could assassinate him with a balloon. 1.00

02:36:54.000 You could assassinate him with a mosquito bite. 0.99

02:36:57.000 Yeah, you don't have to try hard. 0.87

02:36:57.000 A scary movie. 0.87

02:36:59.000 Kamala Harris overtakes Joe Biden as the favorite to be the Democratic candidate. 0.96

02:37:02.000 It's like a betting site, though.

02:37:04.000 So she became the top odds.

02:37:07.000 Well, bro, you want Trump to win.

02:37:08.000 Again, I would have her run against Trump.

02:37:12.000 What we know about what has been and what will be based on what we know about what has already existed.

02:37:17.000 This time that we're living in and time just passes by.

02:37:22.000 What can be unburdened by what has been?

02:37:26.000 The crazy thing is she said it more than once.

02:37:29.000 She said it a million times.

02:37:30.000 She didn't even tighten it up.

02:37:31.000 She does it with different takes. 0.89

02:37:33.000 Like, give me a different take.

02:37:35.000 What can be unburdened by what has been?

02:37:39.000 Like you're doing a read. 1.00

02:37:41.000 Like you're doing a fucking audition. 1.00

02:37:43.000 What can be? 1.00

02:37:45.000 And then she'll do it laughing. 1.00

02:37:47.000 Give me one laughing.

02:37:48.000 Oh my god.

02:37:50.000 Give me one where you're about to cry.

02:37:52.000 It really is.

02:37:53.000 Be overly sincere.

02:37:55.000 Give me one where you're- Just throw it away.

02:37:57.000 Throw it away.

02:37:57.000 Have you watched Idiocracy recently?

02:37:59.000 I haven't watched it.

02:38:00.000 It's like a documentary.

02:38:01.000 Watch it now and you're like, oh my god.

02:38:07.000 I just so wish that George Carlin was still alive.

02:38:10.000 Yeah.

02:38:11.000 That would have been fun.

02:38:11.000 Because he was getting more cantankerous.

02:38:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:38:14.000 He would have went crazy. 1.00

02:38:15.000 They would have killed him. 1.00

02:38:16.000 They maybe killed him anyway. 0.99

02:38:18.000 Maybe that's what happened.

02:38:19.000 Maybe we still have him.

02:38:20.000 The government saw it coming.

02:38:21.000 When did he die?

02:38:23.000 2018, I believe?

02:38:24.000 And how about...

02:38:25.000 I don't know.

02:38:27.000 But how about how...

02:38:29.000 Again, it's because the media's control that nobody cares that Jeffrey Epstein's...

02:38:34.000 2008?

02:38:35.000 Oh, I was off by 10 years.

02:38:36.000 Wow.

02:38:37.000 He was only 71?

02:38:39.000 Yeah, see?

02:38:40.000 They killed him.

02:38:40.000 Told you.

02:38:42.000 Well, if you see that... 1.00

02:38:43.000 You look like shit, right? 1.00

02:38:44.000 If he... 1.00

02:38:46.000 But he had a lot of heart attacks.

02:38:47.000 He did a lot of coke.

02:38:48.000 He did a lot of pills, too.

02:38:49.000 Yeah.

02:38:49.000 Remember, there was a few years back where even in his elder years, he went to rehab for pills.

02:38:56.000 71 does not seem that old, right?

02:38:59.000 Especially now that I'm...

02:39:01.000 No.

02:39:01.000 Wow.

02:39:02.000 That's 14 years older than me.

02:39:03.000 Yeah, that's...

02:39:04.000 I can't do the math, but...

02:39:06.000 Yeah.

02:39:07.000 Drinking 20 beers a day.

02:39:09.000 In 1973, he says, he was smoking joints before breakfast, drinking 20 beers a day, and sharing a heavy cocaine habit with Brenda, a freelance talent coordinator for Hollywood production companies.

02:39:21.000 Wow.

02:39:21.000 Yeah, he was going hard, so he blew his ticker out.

02:39:25.000 Yeah.

02:39:25.000 It happens.

02:39:27.000 We lose a lot of the greats that way.

02:39:28.000 And, you know, if you see, I saw the one person show his daughter did about it, about him.

02:39:34.000 Yeah.

02:39:34.000 And she talks about how his last special, when she walked into the green room, and he turned around, it was like he had aged 10 years from the last time she had seen him, and he looked like this old man, and he was shorter, and he was bent over, and...

02:39:48.000 And yeah, he did seem like Biden, how Biden aged like that.

02:39:51.000 It seemed like that happened with him. 0.99

02:39:53.000 Well, everybody that I know that did heavy coke in the 70s, by the time the 90s rolled around, they were fucked. 0.99

02:40:00.000 Yeah? 1.00

02:40:00.000 They were fucked. 1.00

02:40:01.000 Mitzi, allegedly, God rest her soul. 1.00

02:40:04.000 Oh, yeah?

02:40:05.000 Yeah, she used to like to party. 1.00

02:40:08.000 And so many others.

02:40:09.000 Richard Pryor, of course, loved cocaine.

02:40:12.000 And by the end, he was very, very deteriorating.

02:40:14.000 I saw him right at the end.

02:40:15.000 He used to go up at the comedy store.

02:40:16.000 I worked with him.

02:40:17.000 Yeah?

02:40:18.000 If you saw him at the Comedy Store, you probably saw me open for him.

02:40:21.000 Excuse me, me going after him, rather.

02:40:23.000 I used to have the bomb going after him.

02:40:24.000 He also weathered serious tax problems, a heart attack, and two open-heart surgeries.

02:40:28.000 Jesus Christ.

02:40:30.000 His health problems cost him five years of productivity between 77 and 82. Oh, wow, even back then?

02:40:34.000 No kidding!

02:40:35.000 He was having heart attacks in 77?

02:40:38.000 Though he had been able to taper his cocaine use on his own, he said he continued to abuse alcohol and also became addicted to Vicodin.

02:40:46.000 Oh, that's hard.

02:40:47.000 In 2004, he entered a rehabilitation center.

02:40:49.000 No kidding.

02:40:50.000 Yeah.

02:40:51.000 So if that was four years before he died, he went into rehab for Vicodin.

02:40:58.000 Yeah.

02:40:59.000 Wow.

02:40:59.000 I was probably in bad shape.

02:41:01.000 Wow. 0.97

02:41:01.000 Sucks. 0.97

02:41:02.000 Sucks. 1.00

02:41:03.000 Sucks that so many of those greats just get hooked on these terrible things. 0.99

02:41:06.000 I was so lucky to dodge that bullet.

02:41:07.000 When I was sick and I was going through my bone disease, I used to have to take a handful of Vicodin just to get out of bed.

02:41:13.000 Oof.

02:41:14.000 I'd have to set my alarm for like a half hour before I had to get out of bed and I would take them and then wait for them to kick in so I could get out of bed. 0.99

02:41:20.000 God damn. 0.99

02:41:20.000 It was tough. 0.99

02:41:21.000 But I didn't get addicted.

02:41:24.000 The only thing I ever got addicted to was cigarettes.

02:41:27.000 Wow, that's crazy.

02:41:29.000 And, you know, when I was younger, before I became a comedian, I used to drink gin.

02:41:36.000 It was just, I mean, just drinking.

02:41:39.000 We'd finish off a bottle, you know?

02:41:41.000 I mean, it was crazy.

02:41:42.000 I can't believe I didn't become an alcoholic.

02:41:44.000 I mean, maybe people would say you were back then, but, you know, I just drank on the weekends.

02:41:48.000 And then you just stopped.

02:41:49.000 And then, yeah, when I became a comedian, I was like, oh, I pretty much stopped because I didn't want to go on stage drunk.

02:41:55.000 Right.

02:41:56.000 Whereas now, I like to have one or two drinks before I go on stage.

02:42:00.000 Loosen you up a little bit.

02:42:02.000 I become a different...

02:42:03.000 It takes away a little bit of a sensor.

02:42:06.000 Yeah.

02:42:07.000 So it's funny, like, I'll do two shows, and so the first show is sober, and then the second show, I remember I was in Chicago doing a live show with the video, and the second show, I was a little hammered.

02:42:22.000 And it was a totally different show.

02:42:24.000 More fun, right?

02:42:24.000 It was more fun.

02:42:25.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:42:26.000 It was, I was like, wow.

02:42:28.000 And alcohol has its place.

02:42:29.000 It just doesn't have its place for everybody, and it doesn't have its place if you're using it every day.

02:42:33.000 It's just like everything else.

02:42:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:35.000 I gotta wrap this up and bring it home. 0.99

02:42:37.000 Jimmy, you're a fucking gem. 0.99

02:42:39.000 You're a gem of a human being. 0.99

02:42:40.000 I appreciate you very much, and I'm glad you're out there.

02:42:42.000 I really am.

02:42:43.000 I love your show.

02:42:44.000 I love the courage you have, and you're...

02:42:47.000 Your ability to chase down stories and find the truth of it.

02:42:50.000 And also, I think what's really important is you get it out there in a funny way.

02:42:54.000 I think that it helps people accept it more.

02:42:57.000 Well, I'm flattered, Joe.

02:42:58.000 I really appreciate you saying that.

02:43:00.000 I appreciate you.

02:43:00.000 As always, I'm glad you have this show.

02:43:03.000 Thank you.

02:43:03.000 Okay.

02:43:04.000 Good to see you.

02:43:04.000 We're going to have fun tonight.

02:43:05.000 Yeah, looking forward to it.

02:43:06.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 04, 2024

Joe Rogan Experience #2173 - Jimmy Dore

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