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00:02:12.000But they've only been a country since 94. Right.
00:02:14.000Well, so they were a country, and then Russia came in, and they weren't a country, and then Russia left, and then they were a country, and then Russia came back, I think, and then they were a country after that.
00:02:22.000So they just have this history of having a boot on their neck for years and years.
00:02:27.000So I think he can do Estonian, and then I think he can do Russian and English.
00:07:49.000Stand-up's a pretty good cheat code to travel and experience the authentic version of a place, because you get to hang out with people from that place while you're there that weekend.
00:07:58.000I did, like, every state in America by the time I was, like, 30, and then was like, well, maybe I'll go abroad.
00:08:05.000And stand-up's so new in the rest of the world that it's like you feel like you're in the ground floor of like all I can really approximate it to is like the early days of like hardcore like punk rock when like Black Flag and Minutemen were out there.
00:08:18.000And I feel like I'm doing shows like that when I go to Estonia or Bratislava.
00:08:25.000Was there any place that like was really fun where like they laughed really loud and they got the jokes or was it every place like a little disjointed?
00:08:34.000It's different because some of those, the more East you go into Europe, the more they watch it like theater.
00:08:40.000But I remember I was in Hungary in Budapest, and that show was awesome.
00:08:48.000Like, the host went up and ate it, and he was getting all sweaty up there, and he had to, like, take off his sweatshirt because he was bombing so hard.
00:09:17.000I had a great time, but he had never been to Europe before, and I had performed in Ireland, I had performed in England, I had performed in a bunch of different places.
00:09:25.000And we did two shows, and the first show, he's like, dude, they did not like me.
00:10:00.000You can take an hour and a half or two hours out of your day and not eat.
00:10:03.000You guys also don't have to worry about being like an Applebee's where there's occasionally comedy, which is a lot of these clubs out there.
00:10:09.000Not a lot of them, but they still exist.
00:15:20.000What I was going to say is there was a club that I, like, when Fear Factor had ended, They decided that I wasn't even though I'd sold out like every show for like every time I had been there for years They decided that I wasn't a draw anymore.
00:15:37.000So they tried to decrease my amount by 25% And I was like what the fuck are you talking about?
00:15:43.000They're like we don't think you're a draw anymore.
00:15:44.000I go but I sold out a year ago when I was here like what are you saying?
00:15:48.000and so I didn't work for them for like a year and a half It's one of those big clubs.
00:17:49.000When you go to an arena show, and they all sing along with the Hans Kim song, and they all know everybody's thing, and when William Montgomery comes out, they fucking go crazy and stand up.
00:18:01.000We, like, the Black Keys are huge Kill Tony fans, and they love William Montgomery.
00:18:06.000So when they were in town, they were doing my podcast, they were like, can we see William tonight?
00:18:10.000So I called William, I'm like, dude, the Black Keys love you, and they want to see you.
00:21:12.000Well, I guess the stereotype at one point in time was that you ruined your eyes by spending too much time looking at a close surface, a close object, which is what happens, which is why cell phones are very bad for your eyes.
00:23:43.000Yeah, it's ridiculous that he's got a g-string on, and he's fat, and he's wearing a biker helmet on, and he's got queer tattooed across his belly.
00:26:23.000It looked like it was at a farmer's market, based on the crowd.
00:26:25.000So, like, there's this thing that people are saying about, like, the Pride Parade, because all these people are walking around naked at the San Francisco Pride Parade, and so they were interviewing these people, and they have their dicks out.
00:28:39.000But it's just wild that they can pull it off in almost every city.
00:28:42.000Well, also they can go into places, and then they gentrify these places on the margins of the city, and the next thing you know, all the houses are worth so much money because they invest so much in their properties.
00:28:51.000They invest so much in their property, make things more safe, and they keep a lot of people from moving there.
00:29:42.000Like it was so normal to me that it wasn't until I moved to Florida that I even realized that people were homophobic.
00:29:48.000And that was when I was 11. Like I had no idea that people had a problem with gay people.
00:29:53.000I mean, it was just normal for you as a boy to understand that your aunt had these gay friends, and it wasn't made strange, or they weren't othered, you know?
00:30:00.000No, they were just normal guys who just happened to be gay.
00:30:33.000Like, if you're gonna walk down any major metropolitan, for any, like, three or four block stretch, the odds of you running into a homophobe is very high.
00:30:41.000Someone is gonna be violently angry that you love another man.
00:30:47.000I think that the young people now, they want to be homophobic, but I think that most, like, 18 to 23 year old dudes have probably sucked a dick or had their dick sucked by a fella.
00:31:17.000And so it's based on this hormone and this chemical and they would detonate it above a city and apparently it'd make men so randy that they wind up fucking each other and it would demoralize them.
00:32:36.000But there was, like, that thing with, like, the philosophers.
00:32:39.000Some of them thought that it was low-minded to actually have sex with the children's butts, so they would just bang their thighs from behind.
00:33:16.000Like, but just think about how much murder took place back then.
00:33:19.000Like, if you got to be our age back then, if you got to be, let's just say you got to be 30, how many people do you think you saw get murdered?
00:35:50.000It says people didn't just take 10 steps and shoot as quickly as possible.
00:35:55.000Most of the time, people would stand and fire their guns in the air, purposely miss their opponent, making a duel more or less a test about courage.
00:36:02.000However, there are plenty of real life examples where people would try to kill each other in a duel, for example, Hamilton and Burr.
00:36:08.000People involved in duels also chose seconds or people to accompany them to the duel to make sure it was legitimate.
00:36:14.000Oftentimes the seconds found themselves acting as peacemakers in a duel, making sure if shots were fired, they weren't fired at other people.
00:36:23.000So it was a lot of playing chicken, I guess.
00:38:26.000Yeah, movie theaters are great, especially for a comedy.
00:38:29.000Because it really is like, the thing about comedy clubs, like last night I went to see Kill Tony, and I like watching shows now more than I ever have before, because you don't get a chance to do that when you're performing a lot.
00:38:42.000You watch your friend do a set, but I sat and watched a show, and I've done that a bunch lately, watch a show.
00:38:49.000And it makes you appreciate it from an audience's perspective.
00:39:07.000And also, that show's perfect because you're not worried about maybe someone's bit worming its way into your brain, and then you Robin Williams it later.
00:42:19.000That's real work where you're thinking and you're analyzing.
00:42:22.000But the ideas themselves, like the structure of all comedy is an idea.
00:42:28.000The structure of all comedy is like something comes to you.
00:42:31.000There's a thought where either you see something and it's preposterous or you hear something and it's ridiculous or, you know, there's something.
00:43:27.000So he thinks the muse is like a real thing, like you're talking about.
00:43:30.000It's like a vibe, for lack of a better term.
00:43:32.000So there's all these stories about Tom Waits sitting in front of his piano for like 10 hours a day, just screaming, being like, all right, you bitch, I'm here.
00:43:46.000Just like hammering on the piano and yelling at the muse, trying to like enchant it and bring it to him as he's like, just like literally making insane discordant noise.
00:43:55.000And then out of nowhere, some chords fit together.
00:44:48.000Oh, we have a copy of it for you then.
00:44:49.000He sent us a box, because I used to give it to comics or any kind of creative person when they came on the podcast.
00:44:56.000But Pressfield wrote this book, and he talks about the muse as if it's a real thing.
00:45:01.000Pressfield was kind of like a ne'er-do-well until he was like 40. Kind of like was like half-assing it until he was 40 and then somewhere along the line he realized that it's just about being a professional and like showing up and so he started addressing the muse as a real thing yeah and then he wrote the legend of Bagger Vance and he wrote like some great screenplays and books and yeah and just became like very prolific well it's like we have we always count on inspiration to come into our lives but if you can kind of like Create
00:45:32.000a situation where that inspiration is more easily available to you, whatever that is, it's playing your music, it's drinking coffee, however you can try and harness that ethereal thing that is inspiration, I think you can be a better creative.
00:45:47.000And like you said, become more professional in creating.
00:45:50.000There's also different ways that ideas come, right?
00:45:53.000One of the things that Stephen King would do, a lot of people would do this, is they would write and then they would go for a walk.
00:45:59.000So while you wrote everything, and now let's go for a walk and just think about what you wrote.
00:46:04.000And he would have a little recorder and he would talk into it.
00:46:07.000I've heard a bunch of writers say they do this.
00:46:08.000Yeah, that was a big thing for me when I wrote my book was to write and then go on a walk and maybe smoke a little weed and then you see it all differently and you can come back and realize what was bullshit and like what was a complete waste of time and then go back in and try and address that and then also grow the things that were like a little idea but then you can expand upon them.
00:46:28.000And it's literally just not being in front of the computer.
00:46:31.000It's your eyes seeing real light, I think, is a big part of it.
00:46:34.000Because I have to write, like, at my desk, in my computer.
00:46:37.000But as soon as you get outside, you're like, oh, that's how light hits a tree at this time of day.
00:47:07.000Because, like, when you're really tired, you can't...
00:47:09.000Like, if somebody got you on an Airdyne bike and I started asking you questions, you have a...
00:47:15.000You have like 10% of your brain capacity.
00:47:17.000If you had to do an IQ test, if I had to do an IQ test when I was on a VersaClimber, it's probably 10. My IQ is 10. You're as smart as the VersaClimber.
00:47:30.000So you don't want to be tired when you're thinking things, but you also want to be a little bit energized.
00:47:36.000And there's something about walking that just sort of, because the heart is not beating, you know, 60 beats a minute, now it might be beating 75 or 80 or just a little extra.
00:49:15.000Boat during, I think, the Pacific Theater of World War II. They sank it, and then they were in these shark-infested waters, and they just kept getting picked off, like you'd be floating with your buddy, and then all of a sudden he would just disappear forever.
00:49:30.000Well, I heard on a podcast that also there was feverish homosexuality.
00:49:36.000So dudes would be, like, on a plank of wood and just savage each other.
00:49:41.000Yeah, and I don't remember why it was, but there was all these accounts of, like, dudes butt-fucking, raping each other on these, like, little planks of wood while other people were, like, bleeding out in the water and, like, their flesh is coming off from salt water and shit.
00:49:55.000Yeah, I think I heard that on the last podcast on the left.
00:50:11.000I guess if you were in that sort of scenario, and especially for long periods of time, you're mine.
00:50:18.000You just must be so overwhelmed with anxiety and fear and then acceptance and then sadness.
00:50:26.000You're watching people around you getting killed.
00:50:29.000The morbid fucking tissue floating in the water, whatever's left of your friends.
00:50:34.000And also, if someone's bleeding, you get as far away from them as possible because the sharks are going to eat them.
00:50:40.000It's probably just your brain trying to protect yourself, so it just reverts back to your very simian part of yourself, which is like hold someone down, overpower them, and get it out of you.
00:50:51.000And all the other people, they're gonna die too.
00:55:07.000About Russia and Ukraine and he said one of the ways to incentivize Russia to stop To stop attacking Ukraine is if we left NATO whoa, not only did should we?
00:55:20.000Say that Ukraine is not going to join NATO, but we're gonna leave NATO I was like, whoa!
00:55:25.000What would be the repercussions of that, though?
00:55:30.000Well, look at the repercussions of being a part of it.
00:55:32.000Look at the repercussions of what's going on right now, because, you know, Dave is the best at explaining, and he'll credit Scott Horton and a lot of other people, but Dave is really good at recalling information, explaining how...
00:55:44.000The whole red line with Putin was Ukraine joining NATO. They always knew that.
00:55:50.000And they kept moving NATO-based countries.
00:55:54.000They kept moving weapons closer and closer to Russia.
00:55:58.000The whole thing was like they're baiting him to do this.
00:56:02.000I just get so suspicious of military activity because I know that there's always going to be bad people in the world that you have to send good people to go fight.
00:56:14.000That's always going to be the case, right?
00:56:16.000The clearest, most pure version of that for us is always World War II. Right.
00:57:07.000The people that are telling you there's not something wrong, the reason why they think they can do that is they do that with everything.
00:57:15.000They do that with Venezuela, they do that with Yemen, they do that with Ukraine, they do that with everything.
00:57:21.000They bullshit and gaslight depending on what the narrative is.
00:57:26.000They're very creative with what facts.
00:57:27.000And the facts change over time and they're not really, sometimes they don't even know.
00:57:33.000Like one of the more interesting exchanges about the Ukraine war was with, of all people, Candace Owens.
00:57:40.000So Candace Owens was talking about how corrupt Ukraine was.
00:57:44.000So someone sends her a message from the New York Times, what evidence do you have that Ukraine is corrupt?
00:57:52.000And she said, your own fucking newspaper.
00:57:54.000And she sends them all these articles that were written previous to 2017 about rampant corruption in Ukraine, about Ukraine is like one of the most corrupt countries.
00:58:21.000Like, just because Horrible things are done to them.
00:58:25.000It's not justifying those horrible things.
00:58:27.000But you can't pretend that Ukraine has always been this amazing country just because now we're supposed to support them because Russia did a horrible thing.
00:59:14.000And the people that are doing it right now about Biden, they're telling you how you should vote, even though you know he's impaired, you definitely shouldn't vote for Trump.
00:59:23.000Don't tell people that, you fucking idiot, because it's going to make more people angry and want to vote for Trump.
00:59:29.000You are not going to convince anyone walking down the west side of New York City talking into your phone about what a threat Trump is to democracy.
01:00:34.000These are two very complicated issues.
01:00:36.000If you tell me how you feel about immigration, if you tell me how you feel about weapons, military spending, I can probably tell how you feel about God.
01:00:47.000I can probably tell you what your religious leanings are.
01:01:28.000There's like, division is really important to people in power because they keep us fighting each other instead of against the presidency or the government.
01:01:35.000So back in the day, it was like racism, and there's still racism in this country, but like we're moving further, you know?
01:01:41.000And then it was like class conflict, but now it's like everyone's poor, you know?
01:02:40.000And if we find out that corporations are involved, or the corporations are even suggesting that people should be involved, we should fine them.
01:03:19.000College sucked, you know, so I went to school in Denver and then I went out there to stay with him and we like wrote like 12 songs over like two weeks and Then I was like, well, I'm not gonna stay in school.
01:03:31.000So we got this place We shared a closet in an anarchist commune called Goblin House And like when we moved in, this dude named Bob Wolf Young 2, he had the number 2 in his last name.
01:04:14.000But on the commune, like, those people have almost the exact same tenets and ideals as the, you know, your preppers, your doomsday guys who want to, like, build a compound and protect themselves against the government.
01:04:50.000Like, they have human behavior patterns, and then they attach to it equity and inclusion and, you know, all these different thoughts about Christian nationalism and, you know, protect our borders and, you know, God save Trump.
01:07:25.000Just had this cult going for a long time in West Hollywood, but then Waco popped off.
01:07:31.000So then the Cult Awareness Network had been getting, like, parents would be saying, where the fuck is my kid?
01:07:37.000And they would be in this cult, and so, like, people were starting to, like, investigate him.
01:07:41.000So to throw people off the track, this fucking guy moves to Austin, changes his name again, and then has his followers build him this beautiful theater where he could dance in front of them.
01:08:01.000It all falls apart years later when one guy sends out a mass email saying, hey, this guy's been hypnotizing me and buttfucking me for the past 10 years.
01:08:10.000And then everybody starts comparing notes and they're like, oh my god, he's fucking me too.
01:08:14.000And like, this guy was just paying, you'd have to pay him.
01:08:49.000Manifest itself in you being a die-hard Democrat that don't think there's anything wrong with Joe Biden and Joe Biden's his age is his strength.
01:09:32.000But believing that that guy's okay is the same thing as believing that this gay porn star who's a hypnotist is really like...
01:09:40.000You know what's really wild about the documentary?
01:09:42.000He had this thing that he would do to them called the knowing and you had to earn it somehow.
01:09:48.000You had to like, you know, be on the right path for long enough and he would give you this thing where he would It was a ritual, and during the ritual, he had put his hands on you.
01:09:59.000And to this day, the people that had it, even the people that complained about him, were in the documentary talking about this guy was just evil and manipulative.
01:10:07.000They said that in that moment, they felt God.
01:10:16.000Puts his hands on their knees and they're like...
01:10:18.000So it's like there was an endogenous release of psychedelic chemicals that was through this moment, this ritual thing, the power of suggestion and whatever the vibe that the two of them have.
01:10:37.000He locks on to this person and these people were like...
01:10:42.000Just writhing in, like, in orgasms, in just ecstasy, just like, and to this day, they're all taught, even though they're saying he was bullshit, they were like, that moment when that happened to me, it changed me forever.
01:10:54.000Wow, so he could, like, somehow make them release, like, the DMT or the oxytocin that's in their brains, and they were flooded.
01:11:03.000Probably, I mean, we're isolating specific things like, you know, dopamine, serotonin, DMT. There's all these different things that people are...
01:11:10.000But I have a feeling the real cocktail, what's really up, is everything all together.
01:12:21.000But I do think that if you do something evil, you're aware that you do something evil, and I think your existence is poisoned because of that.
01:12:30.000And I think you will forever run into bad situations because you will be filled with bad thoughts and bad energy.
01:13:54.000And now I have more than $8, so, like, I'm glad to be able to do this for you.
01:13:58.000Yeah, the difference between being able to pay for a meal easy and not thinking about it where you're wondering how much things cost and you're adding it all up in your head, that's a huge difference.
01:14:10.000The alleviation of that is the most important thing.
01:14:28.000No matter where you live, your house just feels like your house.
01:14:31.000If you have to spend $10 million for a house, or if you just have a fucking two-bedroom apartment that's quiet and not dangerous, you know, it's just house.
01:15:13.000You know, we did two months abroad last year doing shows and shit, and she came with me, and it was great.
01:15:19.000But now we bought a house in Detroit, and I'm really happy about it, but I don't ever know if I'll really feel comfortable when I'm not in motion.
01:16:05.000So it's like Mitch Hedberg said, like, he wouldn't say no to gigs because he remembers five years previous when he couldn't get those gigs.
01:16:22.000I'm just like, this is a new thing with the buying of the home and the moving to the home of me being like, what does being at peace look like for me?
01:16:31.000Because I'm used to existing in chaos.
01:16:34.000I'm used to being constantly going forward.
01:16:38.000Yeah, that's there's nothing wrong with that Nothing wrong with that.
01:16:41.000So the thing is like people will tell you because of a narrative Like a from a movie or a book that you're supposed to settle down somewhere.
01:17:12.000The real problem with the travel all the time is your health, because it fucks up your sleeping, it fucks up your eating schedule, it fucks up a lot of stuff.
01:17:21.000And then there's a sense of loneliness and desolation on the road that you try to fill in with booze or drugs or...
01:17:43.000Well, I know, but I... And that's a valuable purpose.
01:17:48.000But when you're just doing the Friday early show and you've already had seven beers, and then you wake up Saturday and you're hungover and you're like, well, I guess I have to have 12 more beers tonight to get normal.
01:19:18.000Yeah, because I learned it from punk rock.
01:19:20.000We would play only all-ages shows, so you would either stay in the venue, you'd stay in the squat, or someone would bring you home and you'd hear them have a conversation with their girlfriend in the next room, and then she'd be loud and he'd be...
01:19:55.000And I remember reading, I think it was Henry Rollins' book, Get in the Van, where the first trip he did with Black Flag, they practiced for like two months in LA, and they got real good when he joined the band.
01:20:06.000And then their first tour date was in Oklahoma, and like 12 kids came, and he was like, fuck this, why are we working so hard, this sucks.
01:20:14.000And then the bass player, Chuck Dukowski, was like, no, no, no.
01:20:17.000It's not their fault that no one else showed up.
01:20:21.000They came to see Black Flag, we're giving them Black Flag.
01:20:24.000And that defined my experience doing stand-up, where it's like, yeah, I would go do the show, there'd be 20 people there, but the next time I go to Omaha, there's going to be 40 people there, because I fucking left it all on the field.
01:20:35.000I was crushing just so I could survive.
01:20:40.000And I think that that really helped me in my career, because I, like, had so much at stake every show.
01:20:46.000Yeah, isn't it an interesting thing, like, if you go to a show and there's only 100 people and it's a 300-seat venue, you're upset that only 100 people...
01:20:53.000But that's 100 people that paid money to came out to see you.
01:22:53.000And this guy's like, hey, would you write your memoir, and I'll publish it for my publishing company, and I'll give you, like, a thousand bucks.
01:22:58.000And Ulysses S. Grant's like, for sure.
01:26:01.000Well, I know a lot of people that get the imposter syndrome thing, too, because when success comes at a very high level, it becomes baffling.
01:26:09.000You're hanging out with famous people.
01:27:09.000You're not gonna, you don't have to sleep in the back of the bus, and you don't have to fucking, you don't have to do anything stupid to just prove that you used to be poor.
01:27:17.000You don't have to self-flagellate yourself.
01:27:18.000Yeah, but it's also like, you have all these fun coupons.
01:27:21.000Why do you have them if you're not gonna spend them?
01:27:41.000And I do spend money on, like, you know, if my sister-in-law, you know, wants something nice for our niece, I'm like, well, here's three different models of that nice thing you want.
01:35:01.000Because these ideals aren't going to keep the van going.
01:35:04.000So, have fun in here, but please, come buy one of these hand-screened t-shirts that I made.
01:35:09.000It's just very funny when your ideals actually hit reality.
01:35:13.000Well, those fringe communities, like an anarchist community like that.
01:35:19.000I'm always fascinated by people that like whether they're furries or whatever it is like these are bizarre Fringe communities that have their own sort of language way of looking at things and things they all accept that most people don't what Kool-Aid they've all drank collectively Juggalos are the best one Oh,
01:37:11.000Well, if you wanted to look at it from a human psychological perspective, there is a purity to it because there's no pretension involved at all in being a juggalo.
01:39:06.000Relegated them to myth and then someone cloned one and brought it back and then they started having more vampires and the vampires were going to space with them.
01:40:48.000It's like a realistic depiction of what it was like when people made their way across the country on wagons and how people were lost along the way.
01:41:40.000And the stories about people deciding that they were going to come here from Europe and didn't even speak English and made it across the fucking the plains with wagons and lost half the people every time.
01:42:05.000Well, that's what I always said about Texas.
01:42:07.000Because, like, the thing about this country is, right, the people that are here that weren't Native Americans, everybody and their ancestors started in the East and made their way West.
01:42:18.000And then the people got to Texas and said, y'all go ahead, we're going to hang out here and fuck.
01:43:08.000So it would just make sense that those people would be the ones that would be pushing the boundaries.
01:43:13.000I mean, think about, like in the 1960s at least, the amount of entertainment, the amount of music, the amount of culturally changing content that came out of Los Angeles and the West Coast.
01:45:50.000He got me thinking about moving here before the pandemic, because he moved here, I think, in 2017 or 18. And I go, what are you doing in Austin?
01:46:00.000He goes, well, I still got my house in Beverly Hills, but I'll tell you what, I fucking love it here.
01:46:04.000He goes, when I'm traveling, I'm in the middle of the country.
01:46:59.000When Wendy, when I did my 2014 Comedy Central special, I did it on purpose at the Denver Comedy Works because I'm like, I want to do it at Wendy's place.
01:47:41.000And again, because it will benefit you.
01:47:42.000Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it'll make your life easier when they end up running the club and become managers or agents or whatever.
01:47:48.000Also, it's just, it feels better next time you see them.
01:48:01.000That's one of the reasons why, when I wanted to escape from L.A., this was 2009, when I wanted to do my first escape from L.A., I chose Colorado.
01:48:11.000But I wanted to be in the fucking woods.
01:48:25.000Yeah, like we were in, like, while we were there, I guess it was actually before we moved there, a bear broke into one of the neighbor's cars and ate his seats.
01:48:35.000Because the bear thought that the seats were leather, and leather is food.
01:48:38.000I guess a bear can smell so good that they can smell the hide.
01:53:35.000When I first got my first development deal, you know, I've been poor my whole life, and then I got my first development deal when I was like 24 or something like that, 25 I guess.
01:53:45.000I guess I was 25. Somewhere around then.
01:53:48.000Anyway, the point is, up until then, I'd always been poor.
01:53:51.000And then my manager contacts me a couple months later.
01:53:55.000He said, do you have a gambling problem?
02:05:02.000Well, Hicks told a story about Ollie Joe when he got real fat and he would have to go on stage at the beginning of the show and they'd throw a sheet over him.
02:05:09.000So he would just be on stage because he was immobile.
02:09:16.000I read them when everyone in my house is asleep.
02:09:19.000Like, when everyone in my house is asleep and I'm procrastinating before I write, one of the things that I do is I'll go on Facebook and just read people's rants like, what the fuck are you angry about?
02:11:12.000Like, that's the big thing that divides me from, like, my more liberal friends is, like, they're into all freedoms except for the one that, like, allows you to protect yourself and your family.
02:12:18.000Because the cops are never going there now.
02:12:20.000So all the people that wanted to avoid all that shit, and the cops were the only thing keeping the wolves away from the door, now you're dealing with it head on.
02:12:27.000And those are the people that are calling for the refunding of the police.
02:12:29.000The people in these fucked up neighborhoods.
02:12:31.000And that's why you need guns, you know?
02:12:34.000And it's not like, the argument to have guns to protect yourself against the government, the government will nuke you.
02:12:50.000But it is like, you know, you have a little peace of mind, and you can buy a little bit of, uh, you can sleep a little bit sounder knowing you got that 9mm in the drawer.
02:13:07.000And the people that are in the military are the least likely to go along with this idea, because most of them are blue collar.
02:13:15.000Most of them are lower middle class, lower class.
02:13:18.000They're people that are struggling in this world.
02:13:21.000And they don't have trust in this fucking institution that's telling you to attack their neighbors, because the neighbors are not compliant with some evil dictators.
02:13:38.000I think the ideological civil war is much more likely to take place.
02:13:42.000That something, some existential notion, something that we all agree is the end of our society, our civilization as we know it, if we don't do X, Y, or Z. And then on one side people oppose it, and on one side people support it,
02:13:58.000and then they start stripping rights away.
02:14:00.000And they start, like, fueling the flames to get this done.
02:14:05.000It's really possible that we could have a civil war in this country.
02:14:08.000The way people are so divided left and right today is bizarre.
02:14:12.000Fully accentuated by not just social media, but social media that's being operated by other countries.
02:14:20.000We talked about this before, but 19 of the top 20 Facebook Christian pages are run by Russian trolls.
02:14:27.00019. So there's 20 of the top Christian sites on Facebook.
02:16:35.000You can, like, upload her Instagram into the Matrix, and then next thing you know, you're jerking off to this unrequited love.
02:16:40.000And then the government finds out that you're doing that, and then the stormtroopers break down your door and find her and you with your pants down on the computer.
02:16:48.000And then you go to Thought Police Jail.
02:17:48.000But isn't it just like it's indicative of this thing that we're talking about that most people aren't even really thinking about things clearly.
02:18:19.000Cover them in honey, feed them to ants.
02:18:20.000The problem is the media is completely full of shit, and so is the government, and they would decide, you know, Sam Talent's been making a lot of noise.
02:18:26.000I don't want to be the face of this movement show.
02:18:28.000Let's upload some fucking nasty shit onto his computer, which they definitely have done before to people.
02:18:34.000And then, you know, you have to defend it.
02:18:36.000And so then all of a sudden there's newspapers.
02:20:07.000This was what made Ratzinger have to step down when that Pope stepped down.
02:20:12.000He was responsible for sending this one guy, he got caught being a pedophile, so they sent him to a new location where he molested 100 deaf kids.
02:20:22.000That must have sounded terrible in that room.
02:24:46.000They fought them on the White House lawn.
02:24:48.000They fought them right on the White House lawn, says David Thurston, president of the United Gamefowl Breeders Association, a national non-profit dedicated to the bird's preservation.