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00:05:06.000That is just a thing that has existed in a team where you allow anyone to join a team.
00:05:12.000So if you have something where anybody can join the team, right, which is basically what being a liberal or a conservative is, anyone can join the team.
00:07:44.000And a lot of them really genuinely believe that their structure, their ideology and way of thinking is really the path to happiness, which is ultimately like the path to God.
00:07:55.000You know, without, you know, breaking it down to cult-like thinking and how people get absorbed in ideas that are untenable, that just don't make any sense, they're completely ridiculous, but they, like, scientifically-minded people attach themselves to that if it's a part of their religion.
00:08:11.000Without that, what everybody wants is something good, and they think that the way to have something good for the people that join is to, like, sort of demonize the people that aren't joining, or demonize the other ones.
00:08:42.000Tribal characteristic that's embedded in our DNA that if we don't address and recognize, we're not going to overcome the hurdle because we're going to be pretending as if it doesn't exist and as if your side is right and the other side is wrong and not just looking at it like, oh, we're stuck in a blue versus red,
00:09:34.000But it saved me at a point because I didn't really...
00:09:38.000I had a hard time, and I think this is where Jordan Peterson is so good talking about archetypes, knowing kind of the archetypes, and I didn't really know my role, and I read this book, and I was like, oh...
00:10:11.000The people I've noticed who have stayed the most sane is a term I'm using loosely.
00:10:18.000The people I've noticed, it's like comedians, people who are kind of like tricksters.
00:10:24.000They've managed to kind of ride the waves of the past eight years because I think they're not too attached.
00:10:32.000And in this book he talks about how there was all this trickster mythology like Coyote and Hermes and then it got kind of turned into the devil.
00:10:45.000And when that happened, when the loss of that mythology in the culture happened, it became much more black and white and this kind of dualistic, like you said, tribal thinking without all of...
00:10:58.000This gray area that I do feel like I look around like malice and all the people.
00:11:04.000Most of the people who I've been hanging out with and know have been kind of having a blast for like eight years, you know?
00:11:15.000First I watched everyone on the left lose their mind.
00:12:01.000You can't be resistant to those ideas simply because they're attached to people you've decided are the enemy, because they might be right.
00:12:09.000They might be right about welfare, right?
00:12:11.000They might be right about, hey, maybe kids shouldn't ever be fucking starving.
00:12:16.000As a group of humans that live together on this one little patch of dirt called North America, maybe we should agree that since we have this gigantic amount of money, that no kids should be hungry.
00:13:25.000What's the actual data instead of the data that's reviewed by the pharmaceutical company and then given to the scientists in the report when they do their peer review?
00:13:35.000When that was explained to me, I was like...
00:14:27.000If there was real oversight, objective oversight by people who actually knew what they were doing, they would never let them get away with prescribing a bunch of stuff that they knew was going to have a negative effect, like the Vioxx scandal.
00:14:40.000That's part of the whole scandal, was that they knew that people were going to have these effects, these side effects, that were very bad.
00:15:17.000I'm not smart enough to fix these problems.
00:15:20.000I can observe them and experience them on my own and see that it does behoove these people to just have everybody fighting so that they don't actually have to come up with, like politicians in particular, they don't have to come up with real solutions.
00:15:35.000They can just be like, it's the other guy forever.
00:15:38.000Have you ever lived in a house that has black mold?
00:15:41.000No, thank God, because that shit will destroy you.
00:16:01.000And then finally they get their house examined and somebody probably suggested to them and then, oh Jesus Christ, your walls are filled with black mold.
00:16:09.000And a lot of times it's like a leaky pipe or something, a leaky pipe and there's water in the walls and all the moisture.
00:17:22.000I think we could all agree that The way the pharmaceutical drug companies should work is they should be very careful about what they prescribe and they should be very careful about side effects and they should be very careful about what is addictive and not addictive and what should be prescribed openly and regularly and what should not be for the greater good of humanity.
00:17:42.000And even if they did that, they would still make ungodly amounts of money.
00:17:48.000That's what's so crazy about all this.
00:17:50.000But it wouldn't be the maximum amount of money.
00:17:52.000And when you have a publicly shared company, it's your responsibility to the shareholders to make the most money, and you make more money every quarter.
00:19:52.000Congress and their spouses be banned from trading in No, I don't know to the second one.
00:20:01.000Any, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock, but I don't, I'm not familiar with that five month view, but if people aren't reporting, they should be.
00:20:15.000Because this is a free market and people We're a free market economy that should be able to participate in that.
00:22:16.000They couldn't get into it on the field, but they went back to Quantico and got the software update, and then they got into it like an hour.
00:24:23.000The season, every night when the episode ends, I sit in my couch and I go, what are they gonna do next?
00:24:29.000You're like, I'm afraid to turn it off.
00:24:31.000I was talking to my sister on the way and I was like, and she was going off about something and she's like, I was like, oh, did you see that this kid might have had ties to the FBI? She's like, he did?
00:24:44.000I saw a tweet, but I'm just gonna tell you that Yeah, let's send it to Jamie for further investigation.
00:24:49.000So the allegation is that this kid had been visited multiple times.
00:24:55.000See, they got cell phone data, so they got geo-tracking data, and some phone had been visiting him and going back to Washington DC on multiple times.
00:25:11.000And that this thing had been happening near the FBI location.
00:25:43.000When I got back into comedy, he started letting me open for him, and his crowds are amazing, first of all.
00:25:49.000The guy's been on the road for like 20 years but watching him it's like he's good at everything I don't understand he's gonna act out he's good at crowd work he's good at like coming up with shit that day from the news cycle like the guy is like it's actually he's one of the most underrated comic well I think there's a lot of comics that for whatever reason they never caught a break they never caught a thing that got them out there that people got to see him but they're really good He's
00:26:59.000The Heritage Foundation just released cell phone data of a mysterious figure who made frequent trips between Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crook's home and a building in D.C. near an FBI office.
00:28:52.000Heritage Foundation tweeted this oversight project thing that says, assassination info drop.
00:28:59.000So it says four hours of congressional testimony later, and we still have more information about the assassination attempt on former President Trump from X and oversight PR than the Secret Service, DHS, or the FBI. We found the assassin's connections through our in-depth analysis of mobile ad data tracker to track the movements of Crooks and his associates.
00:29:51.000Well, we were talking about the other day, Jamie, what was, oh, purses.
00:29:54.000So, someone was explaining to me, my wife is explaining to me, like, what purses and why people like certain purses, and some purses are, like, exclusive, like, you have to develop a relationship.
00:31:09.000I mean, for real, but that's creepy because then they just have to find your phone number, Jamie, and they'll know what your route is based on ad tracking data, which is crazy.
00:31:20.000That seems like a huge security liability.
00:31:23.000I was talking to someone out in the lobby, the new journal app on the iPhone, which is probably iOS 17 or 18. It keeps giving me prompts.
00:31:52.000I wrote a whole piece about those menstrual tracking apps because I had one back when I was dating my husband and then I was like, hey, can I sign you up just to see how weird this is?
00:32:02.000And he's like, this is fucking creepy.
00:32:04.000I don't want to know that you're in your luteal phase or whatever and I have to be nice to you.
00:32:14.000If you had a real female heavy government And, you know, they would all have coinciding menstrual cycles if they all work together all the time.
00:32:23.000And then you could, like, get all their data and figure out exactly when this shit is about to hit the fan.
00:32:29.000And you could, like, run the stock market that way.
00:32:42.000This is all the stuff the left is very worried about with like J.D. Vance because allegedly he's like big and I don't know if this is true.
00:32:49.000America, I don't know if this is true.
00:32:50.000He's allegedly into like the menstrual tracking and you know these billionaires are getting behind these apps so that they can like and there's a lot of fear.
00:33:00.000There's a lot of fear with like the states that don't allow abortion because now they want to like pull up your You know, records and see if you might, I don't fucking know.
00:33:11.000I read these things and I'm like, I never, I don't know what's true or not or what's just being like, you know, just hyperbolic so that people freak out about this stuff.
00:33:21.000But there's, yeah, there's a whole industry in this now.
00:33:43.000What are these guys that are tracking menstrual cycles?
00:33:46.000Well, it's generally presented as something that's good for the women because then you can like eat and work out with your cycle because if you are in perimenopause or premenopause or you're like in the prime of your life, you want to do different things at different times in your cycle and different foods are better.
00:34:08.000Women have like three that are constantly interacting and all it's so depending on what they just haven't done as many studies so now they're trying to say like oh it's good to know where you are so that you can support yourself allegedly all these guys want this for like Handmaid's Tale?
00:34:29.000The article I'm reading says that there was a new regulation.
00:34:34.000HHS finalized a new regulation under HIPAA to limit law enforcement access to medical records tied to reproductive health.
00:34:39.000So they go all the way down to saying local police agencies might simply take it upon themselves to pull the records to see who had unexplained disruptions in their menstrual cycles.
00:34:48.000To find out if someone crossed state borders.
00:35:07.000Imagine, like, someone can sneak in and say, what happened?
00:35:11.000And you have to explain you had a fucking miscarriage to some asshole who's accusing you of driving to Ohio or wherever the fuck you'd have to go.
00:35:27.000Imagine if you're married and happy and you were trying to have a kid and you had a miscarriage and some fucking asshole is at your front door accusing you of getting an abortion and you have to deal with this Christian fucking cult member with a clipboard, you know?
00:35:43.000Aggressively accusing you of killing your baby.
00:35:47.000It stems from what they call the Dobbs decision, which changes the rights of states.
00:35:53.000So Dobbs decision tore away the constitutional right to privacy and bodily autonomy by giving states increased rights to limit and even outlaw abortions.
00:36:01.000Fortunately, the decision did not ban abortions nationwide.
00:36:05.000So then they were saying that some of these new regulations could allow them to go even further and check, like do whatever they have to do to check, kind of.
00:37:34.000I think most Americans—like, when you poll Americans, it's very much, I think, where I end up landing, they're squishy on it, and it's like pro-life in the sheets—like, pro-choice in the streets, pro-life in the sheets.
00:37:48.000Like, a lot of women are like, I wouldn't get an abortion, but I don't want to— Stop someone else from doing that.
00:37:56.000And then there's this slippery slope of allowing people to tell you you can't get an abortion.
00:38:01.000Especially allowing men to tell women that they're not even remotely connected to.
00:39:49.000You know, there's, you know, they can, they mask themselves in A blanket of virtue through religion the same way a lot of woke people do by being mean cunts and thinking they're doing it to be like progressive.
00:40:04.000Well, they have their own version of Pray the Gay Way.
00:42:42.000What do you think about this argument, though, that the other thing that's destroying civilization right now is not having enough men dying in wars?
00:42:52.000Like you have all these men who generally would be kind of sacrificed in these wars historically, and now they're all just like keyboard warriors who hate, you know, their incels basically.
00:43:05.000There's an argument that people make about like, we need to put them back in the coal mines, they need to like get back to...
00:43:44.000You just need a fighting chance to get away.
00:43:47.000Yeah, yeah, but you you also need to be able to defend yourself and like one of the best things about jujitsu is the guard and Learning how to fight off of your back now if you're a woman and some guy takes you down and tackles you Learning how to effectively defend yourself off your back is fucking huge.
00:44:03.000Yeah, it's absolutely huge because technique can overcome physical strength Yeah, it really can especially in that position I want to get back into it.
00:44:12.000Because they learn how to shield with their shins.
00:44:15.000They learn how to grab at the biceps and the shoulders and prevent you from using your strength.
00:44:21.000They learn how to get under hooks and to go behind you.
00:45:30.000One of the best things about jiu-jitsu is when you're rolling in the class, the person who you are sparring against is generally going close to 100% of their strength.
00:45:42.000When there's certain positions, like there's certain things that they're doing to you where they are using all their might to try to achieve a dominant position, a passing of a guard, you know, a finishing up of a submission, they're closing up a submission.
00:46:12.000It's the absolute best martial art for people because if you're in a physical struggle with someone, if some guy grabs you at a bar and the bar table behind you falls over and you're on your back, You know exactly what to do.
00:50:25.000Did you ever see the one where Caitlyn Jenner was explaining about her new vagina that she got to the girls and how she masturbates with it with a weed whacker?
00:53:25.000If you can get a job, if you're a gay dude, you can get a job rubbing backs and butts and feet for $50 an hour, or you could rub dicks for $150.
00:53:37.000Like, it seems like it's quicker, you know?
00:56:44.000The people that are the producers and the executives, they're the ones who get to make the decisions as to whether or not you should take a risk.
00:56:50.000And generally speaking, unless a show is really successful, like South Park.
00:56:55.000South Park, they stay out of the conversation.
00:57:05.000They're not going to take that chance.
00:57:06.000And because they're not going to take that chance, because they have this weird relationship with their advertisers and they can't be free, they're never going to be able to compete with someone like Kyle.
00:57:14.000And you would have to offer him a lot of money to even make that worth it.
00:57:20.000Yeah, but even if you did, you'd have to let him do that.
00:57:23.000The thing is about Kyle, it's like if Kyle was on the staff of a regular Comedy Central show, you know, as a writer or producer, he would not be able to shine.
00:57:43.000He would have gotten heat and people got mad at him, but he would have been the same guy.
00:57:48.000Yeah, but I still think like you get reigned, even the one that he did when he was a guest, the funniest sketch of his, they didn't air it.
00:57:59.000There's like, no, there's like real internal cockfighting on that show that people have explained about like whose sketches get picked and whose not get picked and...
00:58:09.000And there's been a lot of accusations of, like, certain writers taking premises from younger writers.
00:59:06.000He just could not deal with the way that things were done.
00:59:09.000It's like high pressure, too, and very stressful.
00:59:12.000It's also a prestigious position that people are fighting for.
00:59:15.000You're a writer on SNL. You're a producer on SNL. This is like you're in that hungry part of your career where you're making things happen and you're competing with all these other people.
01:00:34.000If a studio is making films, all they're going to need is algorithms.
01:00:39.000They all kind of look like they're made by algorithms already.
01:00:42.000What's going to happen is, they're going to do that, and then the number one movie in the world is going to be a movie that a kid made on his cell phone.
01:01:06.000It seems like my friends who are still in Hollywood in LA, we've been talking and they're like, the wheels are coming off the bus out here.
01:03:21.000I think there's a few other ones that you can go to that are like small-end search engines.
01:03:27.000They're all tied into the same thing, right?
01:03:29.000They're all tied into this great database in the world.
01:03:32.000I just don't know I don't know what's going on behind the scenes that if you Google certain things, it will only give you positive things about a person.
01:03:44.000And if you Google other people, it will only give you negative things.
01:05:09.000And dumpster fire is, you know, we're kind of like, like my friend the other day was like, the shit you say on that show, like, I'm like, we're fine flying under the radar.
01:07:02.000And this is, there's a large, we were all talking about this before we started recording, there's a large population of people who are acting like this is all just normal.
01:07:12.000All the, like, people who are probably still wearing masks, they're all like, oh, what's the big deal?
01:07:17.000I'm like, if this was Trump and he was installing, like, if just reverse parties and this was happening with Republicans, it would be literally Hitler going on.
01:08:44.000When I texted you about Trump, I was like, it's fucked up that we even live in a time where all of our first reaction, which rightfully is, is this real?
01:08:55.000When I heard about Trump, I was like, is this AI? Yeah, everything seems fake.
01:09:00.000People were thinking that, I mean, didn't that one lady tweet that she thought that Trump only got shot in the head so he doesn't go to jail?
01:13:55.000Because I read that, and that might be some Russian troll shit, because they might be saying, like, they're waiting for doctors to go, that would kill him!
01:15:17.000If you were on the outside looking in, you probably would think that that's the case.
01:15:21.000But if you want to pay attention to the way this whole administration's going, pay attention to Karine St. Peter, whatever the fuck her name is, the White House press secretary, accidentally tweeting Trump's post from her account, wrong account.
01:16:08.000I think there's a bunch of really incompetent people scheming and clump and banging heads and not knowing what to do and arguing with each other.
01:17:12.000So now that we all know that, like, this is all...
01:17:15.000Everything's been exposed to the point where they want to keep justifying the way they're doing things.
01:17:19.000They've got to be very clever about it.
01:17:21.000So I can't wait to find out the results, whether or not I'm AI. You are AI. Whew.
01:17:26.000Imagine, if the world is a simulation, I might be AI. I was talking to a family member about just the incompetence and secret service stuff and hiring these people and they're firemen,
01:17:51.000And he's like, this kid hides in the bathroom And takes naps during the day.
01:17:58.000But once you kind of hire these, you know, neurodivergent people or whatever, you can't really fire them.
01:18:04.000So they had to like track it and like keep.
01:18:07.000And he said another guy they hired who was like something wasn't right, got into a minor fender bender in one of the trucks and like froze up.
01:18:16.000And he's like, this is a first responder who froze up when they got into and wouldn't get out of the truck.
01:18:22.000And he's like, I'm not making any of this up.
01:18:25.000He's like, how am I supposed to fucking work with this shit?
01:20:48.000If I had not seen, except for the guy in the suit, if there was a time where there was no question about whether Joe Biden was alive and I heard that, I would go, oh, that's probably Joe Biden.
01:21:03.000Do you think that some accident will happen?
01:21:05.000Or like, oh, a medical emergency before the speech?
01:21:08.000Well, that's what Alex Jones was saying.
01:21:11.000Alex Jones was saying they failed to kill Trump, so now they're going to kill Biden because they can't have him run against Trump because he can't beat Trump.
01:21:17.000But if Trump got shot, Biden would win in a landslide.
01:21:20.000I was playing something that I think it was you who sent me about.
01:21:55.000Well, I don't think everything's a conspiracy because I know that some conspiracies that I've personally been accused of being involved in aren't real.
01:22:03.000So I'm like, okay, so people are just suspicious.
01:22:05.000I think there's a lot of suspicion and also rightly so.
01:22:10.000Because there's a lot of conspiracies are 100% real.
01:22:12.000By the way, I can probably think of three episodes that you and I have done where we talked about how Biden was too old and we got called conspiracy theorists for saying that.
01:22:22.000Dude, I had a text message from a friend who was saying, don't you know that Biden has a stutter?
01:24:05.000You could start talking and they could have AI... Take your voice, convert it to Morgan Freeman's voice, take your image, take every expression you make, opening your mouth, every smile you make, and convert it into Morgan Freeman doing the exact same thing.
01:24:19.000This is why there's no pictures of my kid on the internet.
01:24:24.000There was this creepy video going around and they took all these pictures of this nine-year-old and it was like in Norway somewhere and they grew her up, had her talking, had her, and because the parents had posted all this stuff and she was like asking for them to come read it.
01:24:38.000My most judgy mom opinion, and I don't have many, is we know too much to put our kids online.
01:26:58.000You hear it and you go, there's no way they did this.
01:26:59.000There's no way they took away power from the parents.
01:27:03.000There's no way they don't inform the parents.
01:27:05.000I mean, that had kind of been going on, but now they've just put it into law that you essentially don't have to, you know, the people who would fight against it would say, oh, they're outing these kids to their parents.
01:27:17.000But basically, a kid can go in and call themselves Jack if they're Jill.
01:27:22.000At home and the school doesn't have to tell the parents that they're identifying as a boy, that they're doing, that they're dressing, that they're being called by a completely different name.
01:27:36.000It's just so crazy to me and I'm sure Scott Wiener's behind this because he's behind every creepy ass bill in that state.
01:27:44.000It's crazy to me that you are telling adults to keep secrets About the kids from the parents, that's generally something that's a huge red flag.
01:28:07.000Some of them are really good teachers and they have this idea that I'm going to help these kids and influence these kids in a positive way.
01:28:13.000And some of them are fucking crazy people that are locked into an ideology and they want to convert these kids into that ideology.
01:28:20.000When you have five years old and six year old kids, you shouldn't have fucking pride flags in the school.
01:28:25.000If you have this big pride display in the school and everyone's wearing rainbows, you are incentivizing kids to think that going in one direction or the other is better.
01:28:44.000She was talking about how there's no way out.
01:28:49.000If you're a parent who's supported this, like every time you hear about somebody who's advocating for this, legislating it, legislating kids being able to get puberty blockers or whatever, it's somebody who has a kid of their own.
01:30:22.000I mean, I did a whole piece, How Pride Blast the Public, and I interviewed Douglas Murray, all these brilliant...
01:30:29.000I wish I could have just posted every interview I did with all these individuals because they're all so brilliant, but these guys and women have all been sounding the alarm, and lesbians are really getting erased.
01:30:41.000You go on a lesbian app and it's like...
01:30:44.000I joked on Dumpster Fire in 2019 that we're on our way to suck my dick bigot, and now we've been there for years.
01:30:51.000It's a lot of men who identify as being a woman who say they're a lesbian, which is crazy.
01:30:56.000But my lesbian friends are like, they're not even identifying.
01:31:00.000They're just straight-up men on the lesbian app saying, like, I'm a lesbian.
01:31:06.000Yeah, they're not even trying to look like a woman.
01:31:08.000And you go on a date with them, and they just have lipstick on.
01:33:37.000I want you on record explaining what that is.
01:33:40.000So you're okay with giving kids puberty blockers so that they may not be able to have children or orgasms or X amount of things.
01:33:52.000I've talked to a lot of people in the past however many years that I've done my podcast and the ones that sat with me the most and the most upsetting are all the kid detransitioners I've had on the podcast.
01:34:05.000Those interviews are so hard and upsetting and it is...
01:34:10.000Fucking criminal that there's even more than like 10 and they're churning them out.
01:34:17.000Yeah, and there's the number of gender affirmation care clinics that exist in this country.
01:34:23.000But by the way, Europe is like pushing back against it and we're not.
01:34:27.000And a lot of it is because Europe does have the, you know, like universal...
01:34:40.000Well, you, and not just that, but what you alluded to earlier, that you have to take all those people that had done this, now they're in trouble.
01:37:52.000There were a number of high-profile arrests and trials, including the act of scientist, mathematician, and wartime codebreaker Alan Turing, convicted in 1952 of gross indecency.
01:38:04.000He accepted treatment with female hormones, chemical castration, as an alternative to prison.
01:40:43.000So this podcast I was listening to, she was saying that, I've never known this, I've always wondered, but I guess she's some neuroscientist woman, and I can't remember her name right now.
01:40:54.000She was saying that it's because men would have to impregnate as many people as they could because if they went out and hunted, sometimes they wouldn't even come back.
01:41:03.000They'd go find another similar tribe and just stay with them.
01:41:20.000I always thought it was just like people being competitive like one woman was like if I'm gonna bleed you're all gonna fucking bleed.
01:41:28.000It's all interesting theories because you know so many of the things that people did back in the day were based on this fact that human beings didn't live very long.
01:42:36.000So in Texas, you can legally own more guns and display them in public than you can sex toys, as some dildo-wielding campaigners have pointed out.
01:42:43.000I don't want to know what that dildo-wielding...
01:42:46.000You can't get married in Nebraska if your partner is a sexually transmitted disease.
01:49:03.000You just don't, with all of the, like, your audiences, they're all tourists, and then the local audiences, you never really know.
01:49:10.000It's not like when I was in L.A., I kind of knew what I was dealing with, or if you were outside of, you know, in Valencia, you knew also what you were dealing with.
01:49:28.000It's just way better than California where we were living.
01:49:30.000We're living also in a place that was captured by the entertainment industry and that you realize like that has a toxic radioactive glow that affects everything it touches.
01:49:48.000Everyone's affected by what you're trying to accomplish.
01:49:51.000All the people on the outside that work in other supportive industries, like that place is defined by the main goal of people that move there is to somehow or another make it.
01:52:24.000When I first moved to L.A. and was in the scene and it was...
01:52:27.000I had Troy Conrad on my podcast and we were talking about when we were like when...
01:52:34.000It was like Tuesday nights and Roast Battle was starting and Kill Tony was starting and you were back and it was like this electric time at the Comedy Store and he was saying, you know, you were aware like this is special.
01:53:20.000Well, a lot of it is because people were just fed up with California and they moved out here and they all came together.
01:53:27.000And it's all these similarly minded people that wanted to be free to do the fun thing and then really also extra appreciated it now that it was taken away from them for a while.
01:53:38.000And then now they have the best place to do it ever.
01:55:10.000You haven't examined your mind enough.
01:55:12.000You haven't really tried to figure out what's actually funny versus what you want the audience to think of you, which is a lot of what people are doing.
01:55:20.000Yeah, my good faith interpretation, I guess, would be that they are believers.
01:55:25.000Like, they're actually believers in their ideology or whatever, and they don't really realize they're proselytizing.
01:55:33.000They think that they're making jokes about...
01:55:40.000Right, but you have to always run that through this filter.
01:55:44.000And the filter is, if you're not good at comedy, and you don't have a career in comedy, and you're struggling in comedy, trying to get better at comedy, you are constantly trying to get positive reactions from the audience.
01:55:55.000And if you can't get positive reactions through humor, you will get it through saying something that you think everybody believes in.
02:01:20.000And the way we did it, it was almost like the universe wanted it to happen.
02:01:25.000The universe wanted all these little things to fall into place, to motivate people to get the fuck out of there.
02:01:29.000All these things that fall into place where all of a sudden you're in this town, and There's buildings that are available.
02:01:35.000There's like all these buildings available.
02:01:37.000I know, but I remember so vividly doing your podcast in 2020. I think it was May of 2020 because it was like in the height of another crazy cycle like right now.
02:02:24.000I wonder how much of that, because people believe in that, right?
02:02:28.000They believe in vision boards and manifesting things.
02:02:31.000This was this podcast I was listening to.
02:02:33.000She's all about this, like it's the mirror neurons and you put it into the world.
02:02:39.000But also I think you have to get people excited about an idea.
02:02:43.000So whether it's an idea or a vision or whatever you want to call it, It helps to have people kind of excited, but I think you said that and then just went and did it.
02:02:53.000I don't think you were on every podcast talking about your vision.
02:02:56.000No, but here's the other thing I'm saying.
02:02:57.000The number one thing that I've been most successful at, I had zero vision for.
02:03:25.000I'm not sure I'm not sure if it's there's like I don't know what it is I don't I don't think it's as simple as fate because I don't think it's truly determined I think there's possibilities and these possibilities they open up and your energy and your thoughts Sort of synchronize with these possibilities,
02:03:48.000and that's what excites you, and it expands.
02:03:52.000And then you follow up on your instincts, and what's the correct way to approach this, and then you put more energy and more intensity into it, and then it all accelerates.
02:04:05.000And other people sort of join in, and you collect like-minded people that also have their thoughts and their energy, and they push towards this thing.
02:04:14.000And when you're doing it right, good things happen.
02:08:47.000I can see why people who do it, take a break, start doing something else, get a name doing something else, and then come back to comedy, it's like I'm a beginner.
02:10:59.000conversation you're having it's just I don't know there's nothing yeah I think it's just I think I fought it for a long time like I just didn't I was like I don't know I don't have what it takes I don't have the chops I don't have the talent all this shit but it's like just get it out it's garbage It's a hard thing to do.
02:11:24.000Francis Ngannou, who's a former UFC heavyweight champion, he was talking about people going to school because they're trying to avoid a job.
02:11:32.000The way he said it, I was like, sometimes...
02:11:56.000It's going to be really interesting to see what happens if Trump gets into office, how much gets changed, how much the society shifts, because it does seem like society is shifting away from all the woke stuff in the left wing and even people that were like former lifelong Democrats like Bill Ackman and all these people that are talking about voting for Trump.
02:12:16.000Elon, all these people that are talking about, like, this is what we have to fight against.
02:12:20.000But then they're gonna realize, like, they're right-wing.
02:12:27.000They try to bring Jesus back into the schools.
02:12:29.000I've learned from being very wrong on this podcast many times, and having the entire world tell me about it, that Like, she raised $100 million in a day.
02:13:57.000And my point was kind of like, even as an adult with a kid, I didn't realize how much of an effect it has even later in life when you have your own kids.
02:14:06.000Things like my siblings have had to deal with.
02:14:10.000People, the reaction was crazy, but then the kind of counter-reaction was from the left.
02:14:15.000They were like, and this is when they're coming after divorce laws, and they're trying to get rid of no-fault divorce, and they're trying to make it so women need to get approval to get divorced.
02:14:28.000You're saying that they were lumping you?
02:14:29.000Well, they were saying that I was, I mean, this is like the blue and on stuff where it's like, oh, you're just, they were like, how much did the evangelicals pay you to write this piece?
02:14:39.000I'm like, yes, the evangelicals, years ago, my parents got divorced and I became my deep state plant so that I could write this piece to undermine the divorce laws.
02:15:26.000If you don't think that they are online posing as progressives, having these complex sites with AI-generated photos of their family, they are.
02:15:36.000Every government does it, and the goal is to divide and conquer.
02:15:40.000The best way to conquer is to keep us at each other's throats.
02:15:43.000The best way to keep infringing on our rights is to have you agree with this infringement, because this infringement goes against those people that you oppose, which are the people on the other team.
02:15:52.000And that's the dirty, dirty, dirty trick that people fall for every goddamn time.
02:15:56.000That's what leads to the downfall of civilizations.
02:16:41.000There's even companies that are investing in making batteries out of the waste.
02:16:45.000Did you see all this stuff like with Nantucket?
02:16:47.000The beaches were all closed because one of the turbines fell and then the beach was like getting fiberglass and there's dead whales on Black Island and all up and down there.
02:16:55.000I'm like, this is a- What are the dead whales from?
02:17:28.000I was watching all the hearings in Nantucket because they never got to vote on it either.
02:17:32.000This is another one of those things that just like people were like, yeah, we need tax cuts.
02:17:37.000And for our company, it's GE. And I think it was GE. And so they were like, this is one percent of it generates like one percent extra energy for us.